[04:43] <shtylman> corp186: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development?action=show&redirect=InstallerDevelopment that should get you started
[04:43] <shtylman> the branch is located at: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk
[04:44] <shtylman> you can ignore the IRC notification bits
[04:44] <shtylman> and to build the package after you make changes: run debuild
[04:45] <shtylman> more commonly, we just have a virtual machine and make the changes in that so we can test them quicker
[14:09] <corp186> shtylman: I've been poring over that info, but I'm still a little lost
[14:09] <corp186> how do I create a new installation iso
[14:10] <corp186> I checked out the dists branch of debian-installer
[14:10] <corp186> and checked out all the relevant packages
[14:10] <corp186> then I used the debian instructions to try to build installation media
[14:11] <corp186> like "fakeroot make build_cdrom_isolinux"
[14:11] <corp186> but it ends up making a tarball, and not an iso
[16:10] <shtylman> corp186: why do you want to make a whole new iso?
[16:11] <corp186> shtylman: maybe I don't need to, but I want to test changes to the installer
[16:11] <corp186> so how can I make changes and test them?
[16:11] <shtylman> for development and testing you don't need to make a whole new iso, you can just boot a live environment and install your created deb into that
[16:12] <corp186> I don't understand, but there are many holes in my understanding of how the installer works
[16:12] <shtylman> or... as I suggest, have a live environment (or even an installed system) in a virtual machine. Then install the ubiquity package in that system
[16:13] <shtylman> corp186: you can run the ubiquity installer from and installed system, it does not have to be from a live CD
[16:13] <corp186> I think I see what you're getting at, so I have further questions
[16:13] <shtylman> k
[16:13] <corp186> I'm having a hard time understanding how the d-i installer is put together
[16:14] <corp186> from what I can tell, the installer runs programs from a series of packages
[16:14] <corp186> if that's correct, where is the data that strings it all together in the right order
[16:14] <shtylman> I am not too familiar with d-i itself (my work is mainly in the frontend) but yes... there are a number of scripts that ubiquity calls out to
[16:15] <corp186> I'm looking at modifying the underlying installation, not ubiquity (yet)
[16:15] <shtylman> the people to ask (they are not online right now) are cjwatson who has been working on the installer for a long time and also evand who works and maintails ubiquity currently
[16:15] <corp186> shtylman: thanks
[16:16] <shtylman> np