| mac_v | d3xter: the updates are not to be shown in the indicator applet... they are planning on a system menu or whateever it is called for lucid | 05:07 |
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| djsiegel | mac_v: first lucid papercut milestoned: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/487208 :) | 17:56 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 487208 in hundredpapercuts "Make tooltips consistent with Ubuntu's look and feel" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: nice :) | 17:58 |
| djsiegel | mac_v: I am cleaning up the Karmic milestones | 17:59 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: also have a look at this > http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2009/10/26/5-little-things/ , this also needs to be implemented to get the full look from mccann's blog | 17:59 |
| djsiegel | and I will blog today about Karmic retrospective and Lucid plans | 17:59 |
| djsiegel | mac_v: I don't want the "full look" :) | 17:59 |
| djsiegel | Just updated tooltips | 17:59 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: the rounded tooltips | 18:00 |
| mac_v | oh , ok ;) | 18:00 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: but yeah , the consistent location should be a good fix | 18:00 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: can we rename the milestones to Lucid R1 and such ? it would be easier to differentiate and also for the future releases as well | 18:02 |
| djsiegel | mac_v: the old milestones will disappear | 18:02 |
| djsiegel | once we mark them released | 18:02 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: hmm , didnt know that... thats good... i got confused since for the rest of the projects the milestones dont go away | 18:03 |
| djsiegel | really? | 18:04 |
| djsiegel | maybe they aren't releasing | 18:04 |
| djsiegel | yeah, I get round 1 is gone now | 18:04 |
| djsiegel | beuno-lunch: how do I get to viewing the bugtask in the right project? | 18:08 |
| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | ||
| mac_v | djsiegel: Bug #388949 , this is a very simple one , it already has the patch , you just need to mail the nautilus mailing list | 18:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 388949 in hundredpapercuts "'Clean Up by Name' -> 'Arrange by Name'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/388949 | 18:08 |
| beuno | djsiegel, what do you mean? | 18:08 |
| djsiegel | beuno: so I am looking at a bug | 18:08 |
| mac_v | that can be fixed in the lucid round 1^ | 18:08 |
| djsiegel | it has this links for actions like | 18:09 |
| djsiegel | Nominate for a release | 18:09 |
| beuno | aha | 18:09 |
| djsiegel | they affect the bugtask I am currently viewing | 18:09 |
| djsiegel | super confusing | 18:09 |
| beuno | ah,yes | 18:09 |
| djsiegel | I want to "get to" the same bug I am currently looking at, in the hundredpapercuts project | 18:09 |
| beuno | hmmmm | 18:09 |
| beuno | interesting | 18:09 |
| beuno | there is no good way of doing that really | 18:10 |
| beuno | you need to get to it via the project | 18:10 |
| beuno | os basically search for it from the project you want it | 18:10 |
| djsiegel | I did | 18:10 |
| beuno | and it didn't work? | 18:10 |
| djsiegel | I got to it from the hundredpapercuts project property | 18:10 |
| djsiegel | and the active bugtask is nautilus (ubuntu) | 18:11 |
| beuno | djsiegel, can you send me the link from where you clicked on? | 18:11 |
| beuno | it's a pretty big bug if that did happen | 18:11 |
| djsiegel | https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/round-1 | 18:11 |
| beuno | argh | 18:12 |
| beuno | it's a bug on that listing | 18:12 |
| beuno | if you go from, say, here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts | 18:12 |
| beuno | it will DTRT | 18:12 |
| beuno | I'll file the bug | 18:12 |
| djsiegel | cool, thanks | 18:13 |
| djsiegel | mac_v: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 18:17 |
| djsiegel | here is our schedule | 18:17 |
| djsiegel | If we start next week, and skip a week for the holidays, we can have 13 milestones before UI freeze | 18:18 |
| djsiegel | rickspencer3: hey | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | rickspencer3: ^^ | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | I am drawing to draft a paper cuts schedule | 18:19 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: hmm , can we mention the papercuts somewhere in the schedule ? that schedule is referenced by a lot of +1 testers , so it would get more attention to the papercuts | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | mac_v, yes I think we can do that | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | once we decide on the schedule | 18:19 |
| beuno | djsiegel, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/487223 | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | after U1 freeze, what kind of paper cuts can we fix? | 18:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 487223 in launchpad-registry "Bug listing URLs on milestones are contextless" [Undecided,New] | 18:19 |
| djsiegel | *UI freeze | 18:20 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: after UI , probably , bug which dont affect the translations | 18:20 |
| mac_v | bugs* | 18:20 |
| mac_v | djsiegel: or those which dont need screenshots to be updated | 18:21 |
| djsiegel | yeah | 18:21 |
| djsiegel | Ix bugs | 18:21 |
| djsiegel | Ok, since this is LTS, lets not milestone past UI freeze, actually | 18:22 |
| mac_v | good plan | 18:22 |
| djsiegel | MDC1: thank you can tackle: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/46846 | 18:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 46846 in hundredpapercuts "Emblems get cut when scaled to a zoom >= 150% (refresh issue)" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:35 |
| d3xter | mac_v: and what about other entry's like "chris sent you a message" or "new wireless networks available"? | 19:41 |
| mac_v | d3xter: hmm , why should they show up in the indicator applet? you get the notifications already right... [maybe I havent understood you idea fully] | 19:42 |
| d3xter | mac_v: they should show up in the dropdown list, so the user can click on the "new message"-entry and the chat-window opens up | 19:44 |
| d3xter | for example | 19:44 |
| d3xter | so it is easier for the user to react to certain "events" | 19:45 |
| d3xter | s/to/at | 19:45 |
| mac_v | d3xter: hmm , what happens when user receives 10 IM messages ? | 19:46 |
| mac_v | will 10 items be listed? | 19:46 |
| d3xter | mac_v: no, there will be 1 item per user listed | 19:46 |
| d3xter | maybe "3 new messages from chris" | 19:46 |
| mac_v | yeah , i meant 10 different users... but i dont see that as ideal ;) | 19:47 |
| d3xter | mac_v: oh ok, but there should be still a "Delete All"-Entry to delete all notifications :P | 19:47 |
| d3xter | they arent necessary, so | 19:48 |
| d3xter | mac_v: another possible items could be "New E-Mail received" or "You need to restart your computer" | 19:49 |
| d3xter | (after upgrading) | 19:49 |
| d3xter | or "Battery is low, do you want to Suspend?". There should be plenty of those, which would be useful | 19:51 |
| mac_v | d3xter: the indicator already shows the "New mail received" but not that verbose , but shows the new message count... and the "restart required" is not something Ubuntu wants to be done in the indicator applet , that has been brought up several times and rejected :) | 19:51 |
| d3xter | mac_v: yes, because indicator-applet in its current state is completly different, thats why "Restared required" didnt make it into indicator-applet | 19:52 |
| d3xter | or maybe we could add another applet for those message ;) | 19:52 |
| mac_v | d3xter: the indicator applet is a messaging menu ... AFAIK , so will only remain for messaging related stuff.. ;) | 19:53 |
| mac_v | d3xter: there was a proposal for a system indicator , ScottK would know more about it | 19:53 |
| d3xter | mac_v: it is? to me it seems like a menu with Im-Messengers and Mail-Clients in it ;) | 19:53 |
| mac_v | d3xter: yes ,those are all messaging stuff ;p | 19:54 |
| ScottK | I didn't pay attention to the details of what was going into the menus. | 19:54 |
| * ScottK was more interested in the underlying protocol stuff (e.g. die xembed, die!) | 19:55 | |
| mac_v | ScottK: ah , you are here.. Hi.. any link to the system indicator UDS discussion? | 19:55 |
| mac_v | d3xter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu , has most of the info | 19:56 |
| d3xter | mac_v: ok thanks, i'll read through it | 19:57 |
| ScottK | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApplicationIndicatorsLucidPlan too | 19:57 |
| d3xter | mac_v: oh alright, so the messaging menu is moving towards another direct :) | 20:00 |
| d3xter | nvm | 20:00 |
| d3xter | s/direct/direction | 20:01 |
| mac_v | ScottK: ah.. thanks | 20:03 |
| * mac_v wonders why the ayatana topic is still set to an UDS session | 20:04 | |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #ayatana to: Ayatana: Notify OSD, the Messaging Menu, and more | ||
| ScottK | Because no one changed it. | 20:04 |
| mac_v | ;) | 20:04 |
| mac_v | ScottK: could you add the wiki links in the topic too? | 20:04 |
| ScottK | mac_v: I'm guessing it's open. I don't think I have any special powers here. | 20:05 |
| ScottK | If I do, I've no idea how I got them. | 20:05 |
| === mac_v changed the topic of #ayatana to: Ayatana: Notify OSD, the Messaging Menu, and more... Kindly read the wiki for information regarding: NotifyOSD > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD : Messaging menu > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu | ||
| mac_v | ScottK: ah , yeah it seems open to all :) | 20:14 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 20:14 |
| MDC1 | djsiegel, yeah - i saw you assigned me that one ;) | 20:41 |
| MDC1 | oh.. he's not online | 20:42 |
| djsiegel1 | lamalex beuno DanRabbit mac_v, thoughts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneHundredPaperCuts/Spec/382703#preview ? | 23:34 |
| djsiegel1 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneHundredPaperCuts/Spec/382703 | 23:34 |
| beuno | djsiegel1, +1 | 23:35 |
| beuno | and if I get 2 votes, +2 | 23:35 |
| fagan | +1 | 23:37 |
| lamalex | +1 | 23:47 |
| djsiegel1 | hmm, maybe we should just use short username (directory name) everywhere... | 23:52 |
| djsiegel1 | gah! | 23:52 |
| lamalex | I think Home is nicer | 23:53 |
| lamalex | go home | 23:53 |
| lamalex | feels safe | 23:53 |
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