[00:00] <kcj1993> how do i setup compiz in kde?
[00:01] <Izinucs> typically it's already there.. what kind of video card do you have?
[00:01] <kcj1993> so i can have a "desktop kube"
[00:01] <Izinucs> have you enabled the propriatory drivers for your card?
[00:01] <kcj1993> I have compiz all setup in gnome
[00:02] <Izinucs> ah.. are you just switching desktops on login?
[00:02] <kcj1993> btw im an ubuntu novice and a kde noob
[00:02] <Izinucs> :)
[00:02] <kcj1993> yep
[00:03] <kcj1993> still there?
[00:04] <Izinucs> not sure... I'm running kubuntu in a vbox vm.. been using gnome & ubuntu for 5 years but really only have played with kde on occation.. I like kubuntu now with the newly rewritten desktop
[00:04] <kcj1993> ok
[00:05] <kcj1993> that doesn't hep me much
[00:05] <kcj1993> wow using ubuntu for 5 years!
[00:05] <kcj1993> I have been using it for almost one
[00:05] <Izinucs> since "Breezy Badger"
[00:06] <kcj1993> i have been using it since 8.10
[00:06] <Izinucs> which was just before 6.06  ... I still consider myself a nOOb :)
[00:06] <kcj1993> lol
[00:06] <kcj1993> I still think 9.04 is the best
[00:07] <kcj1993> but im using 9.10
[00:07] <kcj1993> I've had to many problems with 9.10
[00:07] <kcj1993> and gnome
[00:07] <kcj1993> on 9.10
[00:08] <Izinucs> between LTS releases there can be a wide variety of "bugless" releases.. this lappy I'm on is still running 8.04 which is pretty solid.. my desktop is Intrepid 8.10
[00:08] <kcj1993> wow
[00:08] <kcj1993> top tip: don't switch!
[00:08] <Izinucs> but I'm irc-ing in 9.10 kubuntu in the vm.. seems pretty solid
[00:09] <kcj1993> yea
[00:09] <kcj1993> it crashed on me a few days ago
[00:10] <Izinucs> the trick to upgrade (for me anyway) is to reinstall fresh for each one I want.. I maintain a separate /home partition for just this reason.
[00:10] <kcj1993> same
[00:10] <kcj1993> its just easer that way
[00:10] <Izinucs> ok.. this is a race.. let's figure out how to add a program to the "K" launcher Favorites :)
[00:11] <kcj1993> lol
[00:11] <Izinucs> done..
[00:11] <Izinucs> how 'bout you?
[00:11] <kcj1993> crap!
[00:11] <kcj1993> nope
[00:11] <Izinucs> you have to click the kmenu.. find the program in the menu where ever it is and right mouse click it...
[00:12] <kcj1993> ok
[00:12] <Izinucs> do you have the "kde uBlog" widgit on the screen?
[00:17] <mazzo> Hey there..
[00:17] <Consul_Falx> !hi | mazzo
[00:17] <AssociateX> how do I install grip
[00:18]  * Consul_Falx leaving
[00:18] <mazzo> I'm using a Canon Pixma MP640 on Kubuntu 9.10 but i have no idea how to scan via wifi with this device
[00:18] <Consul_Falx> !bye | all
[00:19] <mazzo> i've downloaded all available drivers from the australian canon website and printing works fine ..
[00:19] <Waistless> hi, having an audio issue. VLC can play videos and anything else fine through the default device (HDA Nvidia), but amarok causes phonon to say the device doesnt work, and doesnt play sound. any way to get around this?
[00:20] <AssociateX> am I  on ignore?
[00:20] <Waistless> no i can see you :P
[00:22] <mazzo> what may i do ?
[00:22] <faderhval> quick question how do i enable transparency for terminal windows? it says its disabled do my desktop not supporting transparent windows?
[00:38] <AssociateX> how do I install grip
[00:42] <Izinucs> what's grip AssociateX
[00:45] <Izinucs> AssociateX: sudo apt-get install emdebian-grip  ...
[00:45] <Izinucs> if that is the same package..
[00:47] <AssociateX> E: Package grip has no installation candidate
[00:48] <AssociateX> grip is a very cool gui app for ripping CD's
[00:48] <AssociateX> it's a gnome package
[00:48] <Bloodyrats> hey someone do a who on me and tell me wat it says
[00:48] <Izinucs> is it not the emdebian-grip package?
[00:49] <AssociateX> no
[00:49] <AssociateX> that's something eslse
[00:49] <Izinucs> hummm... have you tried k3b?  always worked well for me.
[00:49] <AssociateX> else*
[00:50] <AssociateX> yeah but it's not doing the cddb look up for some reason
[00:50] <luis_> WTH happens with amsn?! come on i type: Change nick, then i change my nick, i log out, i reconnect and after that, no matter what, my name: "Luis Javier" Appears as the nick, not caring about the nick I typed, is this a glitch???? come on i am tired, this amsn is the most same looking to windows live messenger
[00:50] <Bloodyrats> does anyone know any good irc clients for blackberry? This one is crap
[00:51] <AssociateX> Izinucs: Grip is pretty cool
[00:51] <AssociateX> look it up
[00:53] <Izinucs> looks ok.. kind of a plain interface but functional
[00:53] <AssociateX> it's very functional
[00:53] <AssociateX> all substance
[00:53] <AssociateX> little flash
[00:56] <Izinucs> I can irc and browse the internet but can't seem to connect to the repositories.. sudo apt-get update tries to connect but doesn't.. any ideas?
[00:57] <Izinucs> typically at us.archive.ubuntu.com
[00:58] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: maybe the server is busy at this moment
[00:59] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: it would have to VERY busy to just timeout.. I'm switching to the main repos and checking there.
[01:00] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: perfect, try them
[01:05] <h4udac3> kinda of a noob here with linux. is there a program that lets you delete all cache/temp/memory dump (similar to windows). something that works like ccleaner.
[01:06] <h4udac3> btw hi all
[01:06] <K350> Add/Remove Software, synaptic and other apps that usualy ask for a password have stoped to do so in my kubuntu 9.10. What can I do to adjust it, and where?
[01:07] <Guest76194> h4udac3 hey google 'computer janitor'
[01:07] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: mmm maybe you choosed to permanently they accept the access
[01:07] <Guest76194> cleans up a lot of erroronous data logs and so forth
[01:07] <h4udac3> interesting
[01:07] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: at this moment I don't know the solution
[01:08] <Guest76194> i got it, its pretty useful
[01:08] <h4udac3> guest: i already started using computer janitor...i knew it gets rid of unused packages, but i didn't know it does other stuff as well
[01:09] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu? That problem is only on the Gnome (GTK) applications?
[01:10] <h4udac3> guest: thanks
[01:10] <Guest76194> lol neither didi i as browsin thru linux magazine n they had an article on it, a few issues back now
[01:10] <AssociateX> OK, what the heck is going on? I can't find grip info on the ubuntu page
[01:10] <AssociateX> is grip called something else now?
[01:11] <Joshua^Dunamis> AssociateX: what is grip? Do you mean greep?
[01:11] <Joshua^Dunamis> ops grep?
[01:12] <nevyn> lol
[01:12] <nevyn> cdparanoia Grip
[01:12] <Joshua^Dunamis> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[01:12] <nevyn> Joshua^Dunamis: grip is a gui for cdparanoia
[01:13] <nevyn> ... I think
[01:13] <Joshua^Dunamis> nevyn: ahhaha ok, ok, I didn't know it
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> AssociateX- looks like it was removed from the repositories as of 9.10
[01:16] <Joshua^Dunamis> maybe becouse k3b can be used as gui of cdparanoia
[01:16] <AssociateX> Dragnslcr: Yeah I just read that, the maintainer flaked out.
[01:16] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: I had to go to the United Kingdom repos to get anything to work.. the one's in the us didn't do anything for me.. weird.
[01:17] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: mmm what a pit! I'm italian so I use italian repositories working very fine
[01:18] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: just very strange.. where you at in italy?
[01:18] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: Sicily
[01:19] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: never made it that far south.. lived in Naples for a couple of years..
[01:19] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: Really?!!! Wow, fantastic
[01:19] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: therefore you know Italy
[01:20] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: pretty good.. traveled quite a bit while in High School.  but that was 30 years ago
[01:21] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: wow, as a teacher? It' a fantastic case :)
[01:23] <mofux> hi
[01:23] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: nope.. student.. I was in a DoD school while there.. dad was military
[01:24] <mofux> are there nightly builds for kde trunk arround somewhere?
[01:24] <mofux> (for karmic)
[01:24] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: ah I see! Did you like Italy?
[01:25] <Izinucs> One of the best places I've ever been..
[01:26] <pookito> is anyone in the channel
[01:27] <pookito> ?
[01:27] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: yeah, So do I. Sometimes I dislike how italian politic is made, but the country is pretty beatyfull
[01:27] <AlexZion> Izinucs: really !?!, I'm Italian and I hate this shit country right now ... :(
[01:28] <Izinucs> wow.. is kde/kubuntu more popular in italy then gnome?
[01:29] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: maybe, I don't know that, but I always loved Kde since I installed my first linux distro in 2003
[01:30] <kavurt> what do you want pookito
[01:30] <Joshua^Dunamis> I also used Gnome but my preference is for kde
[01:32] <pookito> I am having problem with my sound card.  I think
[01:32] <pookito> I use an xps m1530
[01:32] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: maybe because it's what you started with.. I started with gnome 6 years ago and feel more productive in it.. but .. the latest kubuntu with the new kde is very attractive... I just have to relearn different package names and how to do stuff..
[01:32] <pookito> and the mic does not work
[01:32] <Joshua^Dunamis> mofux: I know that the 1° december will come out kde 4.3.4 and kde 4.4 beta, but I supose we 'll find kde 4.3.4 in  ppa repos
[01:35] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: I see! I dislike the wars between kde and gnome. Imho both gnome and kde are very good desktops. But in my experience after a couple of months using gnome, I always came back to kde
[01:36] <Izinucs> Joshua^Dunamis: you sound like my polar opposite :)
[01:36] <Joshua^Dunamis> Izinucs: ahhahah :)
[01:41] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: Yes, propably I chosed to allways accept. I'm running Kubuntu 9.10
[01:42] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: I found out the solution for Ubuntu, let's try me to find out the Kubuntu one's
[01:43] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: Oh, tell tell tell!
[01:44] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: In ubuntu you have to go in system - Administration - Autorizzations menù but that is the Gnome menu.
[01:45] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: wonder what that might be in kubuntus kmeny -> systemesttings...
[01:46] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: I've not sen anything like Authorizations in kubuntus systemsettings
[01:46] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: I'm looking at it but I didn't find anything like that for now
[01:47] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: Could it have something to do with kde-vallet?
[01:47] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: it needs to find something else, I'm looking for in Italian Ubuntu Forum for a solution
[01:47] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: kde-vallet? May be
[01:48] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: On  the other hand . I've been there - in KDE-valett - but nothing...
[01:48] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: also me
[01:48] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: and the sessionmanager don't give much either
[01:48] <AlexZion> Joshua^Dunamis: teh Italian channel for ubuntu/kubuntu is #ubuntu-it
[01:48] <AlexZion> what's the problem K350 ?
[01:49] <Joshua^Dunamis> AlexZion: yes I know it, at this moment I'm looking for it on the forum
[01:49] <AlexZion> ;)
[01:49] <Joshua^Dunamis> AlexZion: ;)
[01:49] <K350> AlexZion: Apps like Add/Remove Software, synaptic and others that usualy require a password have stoped to ask for one.
[01:49] <AlexZion> you will find there a lot of nice people waiting to help you ..:D
[01:50] <AlexZion> K350: and you can still install and remove software without pass ?
[01:50] <Joshua^Dunamis> AlexZion: yes I know it :) I'm trying to help K350 becouse its problem may affect me one day
[01:51] <Joshua^Dunamis> *his problem
[01:51] <K350> AlexZion: Yes, I'm in some sort of infinite sudo session
[01:52] <AlexZion> ok , have you check on the policyKit in the system settings window !?!
[01:52] <K350> AlexZion: I propably cliked something to allways allow acces.
[01:52] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: by the way, in the konsole, if you want to use sudo commands, does it ask you a password?
[01:52] <K350> AlexZion: No, but I'll rigth away...
[01:53] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: yes there it allways prompts for a passwd
[01:53] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: ok, the problem for me is about kdesudo
[01:53] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: now it needs a solution
[01:54] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: have you try kpackagekit?
[01:54] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: does it ask you a password if you are installing a package?
[01:54] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: I don't know yet..let me first check my policykit...
[01:55] <AssociateX> what gives the libcurl headers?
[01:55] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: do you remember if a synaptic session on kde use kdesudo or gksudo?
[01:56] <K350> AlexZion: Now I'm not really familar with the policykit. Eitherw way I've two things in there , they're---
[01:57] <K350> AlexZion: org.k3b and org.freedesktop
[01:57] <AlexZion> expand the second ...
[01:57] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: I already looked at it, I didn't find the solution there, but try to look more carefully
[01:58] <AlexZion> K350: do you have this problem just installing package ?
[01:58] <K350> AlexZion: there, in freedesktop I've --> The Policykit Project and ThePackagekit Project
[01:58] <AlexZion> I mean , for example , to share folder , do you have the same problem ?
[01:59] <AlexZion> yeah , I know , but Ineed to understand if it's a general problem or just for some action ?
[01:59] <K350> AlexZion: well,  at least I've no password windows in add/remove software. But I'm alowed to add/remove
[02:00] <K350> AlexZion: I'll try something else..like..say open the logon manager..it use to require a passwd
[02:00] <AlexZion> have a look at The PackageKit Project
[02:01] <AssociateX> what gives the libcurl headers?
[02:01] <K350> AlexZion: Ok there's a list there. some thigs with a lock-icon and some wiht a blue icon
[02:01] <Joshua^Dunamis> yes look at Packagekit Project, now I'm looking better on it
[02:01] <K350> Joshua^Dunamis: Yes I'm there...
[02:03] <AlexZion> tell me , do you have the sameproblem with other task which should ask you a password ?
[02:03] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: look at autorizzation on Package installation (I have it in italian so try to find it if it's different)
[02:03] <bodom> hi there
[02:03] <tsimpson> AssociateX: try libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[02:04] <bodom> I got a strage behaviour with my keyboard and key-repetition
[02:04] <K350> AlexZion: yes it seems to be that way
[02:04] <AlexZion> so it is a general problem ....
[02:04] <bodom> when I press and hold a key, it' repeated correctly, except for the left and down arrow keys
[02:04] <bodom> any ideas?
[02:04] <K350> AlexZion: went to the logon editor..didn't ask for a password. It use to ...
[02:04] <K350> used
[02:05] <K350> AlexZion: yes, at least as it seems
[02:05] <K350> AlexZion: it's like a session that's not closed
[02:05] <AlexZion> ok , on "The policyKit Project" section ?, do you have anything locked ?
[02:06] <K350> AlexZion: yes plenty of things locked
[02:06] <K350> AlexZion: That's why I guess it's a session going on and on...
[02:06] <AlexZion> planty ?, I have just 4
[02:06] <K350> AlexZion: I've...
[02:07] <K350> AlexZion: 10 things locked in org.freedesktop The packagekit project
[02:08] <AlexZion> ok , but I asked you towatch on the policiKit Project as well ...
[02:08] <WilliamBuell> the simple backup I installed with synaptic mgr defaluts to an include of /var /home / user/local /etc .. QUESTION, in the event that I had to restore, how much would I get back of my system, would all the apps be there?
[02:09] <Joshua^Dunamis> K350: are they marked as STOP?
[02:09] <AssociateX> tsimpson: thanks that worked
[02:10] <K350> AlexZion: I've no idea. there's just this lock icon
[02:11] <WilliamBuell> I found a huge tar statement which claimed to backup the entire system which resulted in a 2.5 gig file, but with some error messages at the end of procedure... but a different prog said the tar is corrupt
[02:11] <AlexZion> ok , but if you select one of them , you will see on the right side , all the propriety ..., right ?
[02:11] <WilliamBuell> and i dont have luxury to actually try to unzip the tar
[02:17] <Joshua^Dunamis> AlexZion: It not seems easy this PolicyKit configuration! I'm looking in my system there are only three instances of authority about my account. It works fine to me but if I would to change anything may have some problems.
[02:18] <AlexZion> I know isn't so simple , but we have just this .. :D
[02:19] <Num83rGuy> My mouse randomly frezzes and I can't find the cause. The last time it happened I tryed to run lsusb but it gave no output.
[02:20] <Joshua^Dunamis> AlexZion: I see :D
[02:21] <Num83rGuy> sorry quassel crashed :(
[02:22] <Num83rGuy> Anyway some times after the mouse stops working my keyboard stops as well both are USB.
[02:23] <Tamagotono_> Anyone know how to disable the "change desktop with mousewheel" feature?  It is VERY annoying...  :)
[02:24] <WilliamBuell> Tamagotono_: did you google on it, just curious
[02:26] <fran_> does anyone know how to activate the multitouchpad trackpad on kubuntu 9.10?
[02:26] <Tamagotono_> I have in the past but not recently, never had any luck.  Just accidently switched desktops and reminded me to ask here.
[02:26] <WilliamBuell> Tamagotono_:  perhaps this link might have something, i only quickly scanned it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad/Hardy
[02:27] <Joshua^Dunamis> I'm going away see you soon
[02:27] <Tamagotono_> WilliamBuell: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[02:30] <fran_> anyone uses kubuntu on a asus eeepc 1000he?
[02:45] <Num83rGuy> 259 people and not a one has a guess as to why my USB mouse randonly frezzes on K/ubuntu and not Windows?
[02:45] <Izinucs> Num83rGuy: is it a microsoft mouse? :)
[02:46] <Num83rGuy> No generic
[02:46] <Izinucs> Num83rGuy: no idea.. sorry..
[02:46] <Num83rGuy> Thanks for takeing a stab at at least.:)
[02:47] <Num83rGuy> Starting to wonder if I was mute.
[02:47] <nate_> hello, i would like to create an ftp server to access some of my files from a remote location.  any body want to help?
[02:52] <Tamagotono_> WilliamBuell: Thanks for the link but it didn't have what I need.  I did find a comment that gave me a work-around though.  I just switched the desktop to "folder view" and now it does not switch desktops on mousewheel.  Kinda hokey but it works.  :) thanks again.
[02:56] <Izinucs> nate_: you're almost better off using ssh.. much easier and little to no setup
[02:56] <Izinucs> nate_: on the other hand.. you can sign up for ubuntu one's free 2 gig space.. www.one.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <nate__> basicly i want to change out music or listen to music at work that resides on my home pc.
[03:00] <nate__> and if there is some thing a friend wants i would like them to be able to log in and get it.
[03:04] <shentino_> Um...is irc.ubuntu.com linked into the freenode network?
[03:22] <webbb82> im running on a netbook and i want to install the kubuntu netbook remix, but is the only differance just the app launcher or is kde fine tunned for  netbooks
[03:35] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: Either one works fine.  I prefer the netbook remix for my Dell mini9 but the standard desktop is good too.
[03:36] <webbb82> but is the netbook version tuned for netbooks or is the only differance the app launcher
[03:38] <Tamagotono_> I haven't looked at the specifics between how they are tuned but I have not noticed any difference in performance, just a bit smaller install footprint.
[03:39] <webbb82> ha
[03:41] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: which netbook do you have?
[03:42] <webbb82> acer aspire one
[03:42] <webbb82> i can runn compiz with heavy effects and it runs fine
[03:42] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: HDD or SSD?
[03:42] <webbb82> but the plasma desktop  is very laggy  i have to take off all the effects and run compiz insted of kwin
[03:42] <webbb82> i think hdd
[03:43] <webbb82> is there anythin els i can do to get plasma les laggy
[03:43] <Tamagotono_> You might try installing to a USB stick and see what you think.  It should have similar performance to your HDD.
[03:43] <webbb82> i i heard if you change the plasma theme it can help
[03:44] <webbb82> ya running from flash is way too slow
[03:46] <Tamagotono_> I don't see much lag at all when using kwin.  Checking my settings now to see what settings I have...
[03:48] <webbb82> oh  my everything runs pretty good but if i were to drag around the folderview plasma with would skip a little
[03:51] <Tamagotono_> I have my settings as follows: OpenGL (using Shared Memory)  Texture filter set to Nearest and both VSync and direct rendering enabled.  Some animations are a bit slow but most are surprisingly smooth.
[03:56] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: Just checked... moving a folderview plasmoid is laggy.  Windows are very smooth even with wobbley windows enabled.
[03:56] <webbb82> ok so it may just be folderview
[03:56] <webbb82> ?
[04:01] <webbb82> i just got a error trying to install kde   what does this mean
[04:01] <webbb82> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-wallpapers_4.3.2-0ubuntu7.1_all.deb
[04:01] <webbb82>   Hash Sum mismatch
[04:02] <Tamagotono_> sounds like there was an error in the download.  Try it again and see what happens.
[04:04] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: I just tried the link you gave and it downloaded just fine.
[04:05] <xXTheBoxXx> i'm trying to set up distcc between gentoo and kubuntu and can't seem to get it working is there an updated howto or something for kubuntu?
[04:05] <webbb82> Tamagotono_:  strange it worked for me to but in synaptic it failed to download
[04:08] <Tamagotono_> webbb82: I was just playing with some of the plasmoids and it seems the ones with more transparent area are laggy.  If I resize them so they are smaller, they don't lag near as much.
[04:09] <xXTheBoxXx> I've been trying to follow this, but I think it's out of date being from 2005: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83186
[04:11] <webbb82> what is diskc
[04:13] <Tamagotono_> not familiar with diskc.  Where are you seeing it?
[04:15] <webbb82> Tamagotono_: from what xXTheBoxXx  was talkin about
[04:18] <xXTheBoxXx> Tamagotono_: sorry I was trying to ask about my own issue
[04:19] <Tamagotono_> xXTheBoxXx: No Problem.. just got a bit confused.   (not a difficult task)    :)
[04:20] <xXTheBoxXx> Tamagotono_: yeah now I feel bad because webbb82 thought I was talking to him about his issue for some reason
[04:28] <alabamahit> Hi, I'm new to KDE. Came over from gnome. Does KDE have  a program like/or does it have gparted installed already?
[04:31] <Tamagotono_> I recommend sticking with gparted.  It has always had the best functionality and there is nothing installed by default in kubuntu, of this type.
[04:33] <alabamahit> thanks I will install gparted :P, does what install package does KDE use? sypantic replacement?
[04:33] <Tamagotono_> alabamahit: packagekit
[04:34] <alabamahit> Tamagotono_:  Thank you :)
[04:34] <Tamagotono_> alabamahit: NP
[04:34] <Shentino> adept
[04:34] <Shentino> Huh?  I thought it was adept
[04:35] <alabamahit> lol, i can't seem to find either lol
[04:35]  * alabamahit is such a noob.
[04:35] <alabamahit> found it :)
[04:36] <Tamagotono_> alabamahit: my bad.. kpackagekit
[04:36] <alabamahit> :)
[04:37] <alabamahit> KDE is nice. so much better looking than gnome
[04:43] <alabamahit> be back got to reboot
[04:56] <alabamahit> lol  i messedup and removed that "destop" thingy that was on the screen...and can't find it lol
[05:20] <alabamahit> where is grub at in kubuntu? when i installed it, seems it didn't do right as i can't get into my xp install. i dont see it in /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- That file is not here.
[05:22] <Shentino> yuck
[05:24] <TheBox> alabamahit: try /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:24] <TheBox> alabamahit: not really familiar with the syntax though
[05:25] <alabamahit> TheBox: thanks that was it. This is my first run with KDE, been on gnome.
[05:26] <TheBox> alabamahit: no, don't edit that one, top of the file says not to
[05:27] <alabamahit> oh
[05:27] <alabamahit> my problem is this. I had xp installed. and i installed KDE with the selection install beside each other. and now can't access the xp.
[05:28] <TheBox> alabamahit: check the README for it here, looks like each OS is a different file in the same directory as the readme /etc/grub.d./README
[05:30] <alabamahit> reading that now
[05:31] <TheBox> yeah there should be a 30_os-prober that seems to auto detect my win xp with no configuration needed, but mine is on a second hard disk
[05:32] <alabamahit> I just ran a grub update. going to reboot and try it out.
[05:33] <TheBox> good luck!    ***being nice
[05:34] <TheBox> so anybody here have distcc working in kubuntu with other linux distro?  I'm having an issue with it and need some config help
[05:35] <TheBox> did it work for ya?
[05:35] <alabamahit> said the same thing. WHen i click on the xp it says "Invalid Signature"
[05:38] <TheBox> i see an ubuntu forum post with same error reading
[05:38] <alabamahit> hum
[05:41] <TheBox> um might want to try this?   post #13?   http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264151&page=2
[05:41] <WilliamBuell> I am a beginner having problems with two different attempts to do a BACKUP, one with the backup util installed via synaptic and the other from a tar command: MY PROBLEM IS I CANNOT delete either the /var/backup folder or the backup tar file
[05:42] <WilliamBuell> the /var/backup folder from the synaptic install seems useless to me if i cannot move it to a dvd or mem stick
[05:42] <WilliamBuell> and now, the backup folder and backup tar are eating up too much space and i dont know how to delete them
[05:43] <WilliamBuell> i would be happy right now simply to learn how to delete the tar backup
[05:44] <alabamahit> I'm checking into that TheBox. Thanks :)
[05:44] <Shentino> did you try rm?
[05:45] <Shentino> or mv?
[05:45] <WilliamBuell> i am such a beginner that you have to let me know you are directing suggestion to me... since i dont know all these commands
[05:45] <WilliamBuell> Shentino: are you talking to me
[05:45] <Shentino> william:  sorry.  Plug your mem stick in and open it up
[05:45] <TheBox> might try what is in post #16 before you mess with os-prober like it says
[05:45] <WilliamBuell> how do i delete /backup.tar.gz
[05:46] <WilliamBuell> i think that it is in root but not sure
[05:46] <TheBox> using the 40_custom
[05:46] <amachu>  I have installed Ubuntu Netbook remix in my Acer Aspire One ZA3
[05:47] <WilliamBuell> i am a total beginner, so i wont realize you are speaking to me, unless you tell me the complete command to delete /backup.tar.gz
[05:47] <amachu> I would like to have KDE also
[05:47] <amachu> which package suite/ selection should I install
[05:47] <amachu>  is it kubuntu-desktop or something else?
[05:47] <WilliamBuell> ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[05:49] <WilliamBuell> i am sure it must be a very simple command to delete /backup.tar.gz
[05:49] <alabamahit> TheBox: done post 13. then on update-grub no error this time. Going to reboot. i think that might have fixed it. be right back. And thanks for your help it is very much appreciated.
[05:52] <WilliamBuell> i dont understand why they make it SO difficult and obscure to delete certain files, or log in with super admin root power
[05:54] <Shentino> What is backup.tar.gz anyway?
[05:54] <Shentino> Does anything in ubuntu create it?
[05:54] <alabamahit> well it didn't break nothign but didn't fix it either lol. going to read more in that topic
[05:54] <bazhang> Shentino, sbackup
[05:54] <WilliamBuell> I created it with a backup tutorial that puts the whole system to a tar
[05:54] <WilliamBuell> I did find THIS -The rm (ReMove) command will delete any filename you specify. The rm -rf command will remove any directory you specify.
[05:55] <TheBox> alabamahit: last try for me to help is post 18 same thread http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8262566&postcount=18
[05:55] <Shentino> yeah, that's one reason you don't mess around as root.
[05:55] <Shentino> you can fry your system in a hurry.
[05:56] <WilliamBuell> SO I imagine I would go to terminal and use sudo rm /backup.tar.gz
[05:56] <Shentino> but anyway, go into a terminal, sudo rm /backup.tar.gz
[05:56] <Shentino> aye
[05:56] <WilliamBuell> thanks Shentino
[05:57] <alabamahit> will do thanks agian :)
[05:58]  * TheBox crosses fingers
[06:01] <WilliamBuell> I just now mounted my 4 gig mem stick, how would I COPY /backup.tar.gz to that mem stick
[06:02] <WilliamBuell> since it would have to be a sudo command
[06:03] <Shentino> hmm...
[06:03] <Shentino> usually devices like that are mounted at /media
[06:03] <Shentino> check there
[06:03] <Shentino> you should be able to cp <source> <target location>
[06:04] <Shentino> or just copy/paste with the file manager
[06:04] <WilliamBuell> well, i am such a beginner, that i dont know how to reference the <target location?
[06:04] <WilliamBuell> when i right click on the tar, it does not show i have permission to copy
[06:04] <Shentino> odd...
[06:05] <Shentino> ah, probably has protections on it
[06:05] <WilliamBuell> i mean, if i could delete it or copy it in file manager, it would be a piece of cake
[06:05] <Shentino> What does "ls /media" say?
[06:05] <WilliamBuell> i am such a beginner, i am not certain but let me go to terminal and enter ls /media
[06:06] <WilliamBuell> it gives me lots of useless info about usb1 usb2 usb3
[06:06] <Shentino> heh
[06:06] <Shentino> I'm stumped.  One of those should be your flash drive
[06:06] <WilliamBuell> i wish there was a way to launch the file manager with root privileges
[06:08] <WilliamBuell> this is all so hopeless, i have no easy understandable way to backup everything to a dvd or to a memory stick
[06:08] <WilliamBuell> and now i am stuck with a huge undeletable /var/backup folder and an undeletabel /backup.tar.gz
[06:09] <WilliamBuell> i wonder if I uninstall the simplebackup app, will it remove that backup folder
[06:10] <WilliamBuell> someone was telling me how simple it is to restore ubuntu
[06:11] <Shentino> aha
[06:12] <Shentino> go to a terminal
[06:12] <Shentino> $ sudo nautilus
[06:12] <Shentino> and then use that one to do your drag & drops
[06:12] <Shentino> that "sudo nautilus" will give you a root file manager
[06:12] <maco> um thats in gnome
[06:12] <Shentino> oops
[06:13] <maco> i think you want "kdesu dolphin"
[06:13] <Shentino> well, sudo something ;)
[06:13] <maco> also, you shouldnt use "sudo" on graphical apps. its either "gksudo" or "kdesu"
[06:14] <Shentino> but I'm a sudo wrestler
[06:14] <WilliamBuell> i do have the one sudo rm /backup.tar.gz but i am terrified that it will somehow backfire and destroy my entire system
[06:15] <Shentino> You can still copy it to your flash
[06:15] <Shentino> are you using gnome or kde?
[06:15] <WilliamBuell> how the heck can i copy it to my flash when i dont know how to refer to the flash drive in sudo
[06:15] <maco> i would guess kde given the channel...
[06:15] <maco> WilliamBuell: type the command "mount" by it self
[06:15] <WilliamBuell> ok
[06:15] <maco> and it should list where everything is on your system
[06:15] <Shentino> will:  you use sudo to start the file manager, which then can handl ethe copy graphically
[06:16] <WilliamBuell> mount gives me a lot of strange info
[06:16] <Shentino> If you're using gnome, then type in "sudo nautilus", if kde, then type in "sudo dolphin".
[06:16] <Shentino> Whatever window pops up afterwards you should be able to use to copy that file
[06:17] <WilliamBuell> how would i start the file manager with sudo?
[06:17] <WilliamBuell> ohhh sudo nautilus or sudo dolphin
[06:17] <Shentino> aye
[06:17] <TheBox> I was about to say he just told you
[06:20] <WilliamBuell> that sudo nautilus worked for me, thanks
[06:20] <WilliamBuell> that helps a lot
[06:20] <Shentino> got the data onto your flash drive ok then?
[06:20] <WilliamBuell> not enough room on flash, so I am experimenting with dvd
[06:21] <Shentino> darn
[06:21] <Shentino> dvds you have to burn
[06:21] <Shentino> unless it's a prepared dvd-rw or something like that
[06:22] <Shentino> how big is the file btw?
[06:25] <WilliamBuell> the tar file is 1.6 gig
[06:25] <Shentino> wait
[06:25] <Shentino> wow...
[06:25] <Shentino> um...did you back up the entire drive or just /home?
[06:26] <Shentino> Anyway, now that you know how to get a root file manager, I'd suggest you back up just /home
[06:27] <Shentino> everything else on an ubuntu system can be reinstalled from the CD
[06:27] <Shentino> best of luck
[06:27] <Shentino> I gotta go to bed now :P
[06:29] <WilliamBuell> well, at least that sudo nautilus command got me into the file manager with the ability to delete that tar file
[06:29] <WilliamBuell> so, thanks
[07:10] <Williambuell> i just lost my whole system and could use some advice... it wont boot, it gives me message THE CONFIGURATION DEFAULTS FOR GNOME POWER MANAGER HAVE NOT BEEN INSTALLED
[07:10] <Williambuell> what options do I have, or should I reinstall Ubuntu 9.10 from CD, and hope that my one system tar backup would bring things back
[07:10] <Williambuell> I am on my Wubi Ubuntu on my other computer
[07:14] <Williambuell> I wonder how or IF I could boot in RECOVERY Mode??
[07:14] <Williambuell> because I did find some info about how to recover at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980711.html
[07:20] <Williambuell> I can use the Ubuntu install to get into ubuntu without any changes to system
[07:21] <Williambuell> so perhaps i could rescue my system from that?
[07:30] <tessellation12> Hi, can anyone suggest a dark theme like oxygen? It's starting to hurt my eyes... @_@
[07:34] <tmade> hello, somebody can tell me where the proxy settings are saved in (kubunto 9.1 on kde)
[07:35] <maco> 9.10. its a 10 not a 1, for octoer
[07:35] <maco> *october
[07:35] <tmade> :-)
[07:35] <tmade> yes...on 9.10
[07:36] <tessellation12> can anyone suggest a qt theme like oxygen only darker?
[07:37] <Williambuell> I lost my whole ubuntu system, so I am doing a re-install of Ubuntu from install cd, and I have one tar file backup which I can try to unzip
[07:38] <Williambuell> if that tar does not restore, then I have all my notes as to what I have done the past week in my wordpress blog, so I will just have to recreate everything
[07:51] <Williambuell> If I ever get my ubuntu REINSTALLED I want to learn of some reliable way to create a rescue disk, in case I lose the whole system again
[07:57] <Williambuell> what is the address to the ubuntu off topic
[07:58] <joshua> hi
[07:59] <TheKro> Williambuell: Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <Williambuell> thanks
[08:06] <Waistless> Hi, im having an issue with audio: basically after an update, phonon keeps giving a tooltip saying the HDA Nvidia audio device does not work, and falling back to a device i dont use (ati hdmi). as a result, anything that's attatched to kde (like amarok, desktop sounds) has no sound. any ideas?
[08:06] <Waistless> the configuration is as it should be, xine backend, no pulseaudio
[08:06] <Waistless> although it still wants to list pulseaudio as a device ^^....
[08:30] <tmade> how can i update kubuntu?
[08:35] <FireCrotch> tmade: If you are looking to just fetch bug-fixes and security updates (as opposed to going from Kubuntu 9.04 to Kubuntu 9.10), you can do "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:36] <tmade> FireCrotch: thanks..that was the question
[08:37] <FireCrotch> tmade: You can also use the graphical package manager, KPackageKit, if you prefer :)
[08:37] <tmade> i prefer command line
[08:37] <tmade> may it be that kubuntu 9.10 is quite buggy?
[08:38] <tmade> e.g. knetworkmanager which doesn´t work!?
[08:38] <tmade> how can i change to make ifup as default(instead of network-manager)?
[08:39] <npinhao> Hi, I'm trying the 9.10 Netbook edition on a 901 ASUS eee. Unfortunately I'm having problems with the network...
[08:39] <aomegax> tsimpson: are you there?
[08:40] <aomegax> however I have a problem with initramfs...at boot hard disk isn't found
[08:41] <npinhao> It seems that I can't connect the Wi-Fi with WPA/WPA2, only when I put my router in WEP...
[08:41] <npinhao> Has anybody had that problem before?
[08:41] <aomegax> yesterday I resolve this problem mounting my distro in live, but now it doesn't work again...
[08:42] <sharpen047> hello all would someone mind helping me wiht sound? it keeps saying everying is "broken"i uninstalled pulse audio because it wasnt full duplex
[08:42] <tje> Got a question here relating to sound in Kubuntu 9.10.
[08:43] <tje> I've been all over Google w/ this and found one thing that helped, but has not complete corrected the problem.
[08:43] <sharpen047> what is it tje
[08:43] <tje> When I play sound, it is as if it's double-sampling the sound
[08:43] <tje> like it'll play a fraction of a second of the sound, then play that same fraction again, then move on.
[08:43] <sharpen047> meaning its laggy?
[08:43] <tje> Yeah, I think that would be an appropriate term.
[08:43] <tje> It started when I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.
[08:44] <sharpen047> did you try different settings in the panel?
[08:44] <tje> I added "options snd-atiixp ac97_codec=0" to my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[08:44] <tje> sharpen047, lemme try that now that I've rid myself of the codec timeout errors in dmesg(8)
[08:44] <tje> sec
[08:45] <sharpen047> tje you using pulse audio?
[08:47] <tje> sharpen047, Yes.
[08:47] <tje> Actually, no.
[08:47] <sharpen047> haha
[08:47] <sharpen047> what are you using
[08:47] <tje> I thought I was...  I'm using ATI IXP AC97
[08:47] <aomegax> why UUID doesn't identify my HDD?
[08:47] <tje> Lemme test it w/ Pulse.
[08:47] <sharpen047> thats the card tje
[08:48] <sharpen047> youre using pulse audio
[08:48] <aomegax> even in menu.lst and in fstab my root has the same UUID
[08:48] <sharpen047> i am having problems with pulse myself
[08:48] <sharpen047> my problems also started in karmic
[08:49] <sharpen047> they updated the PA, EVERYONE i know is having probs iwth it
[08:50] <tje> sharpen047,  I usually search google w/ site:.ubuntuforums.org and find fixes for any issues I've found.   Have you and/or those you know found solutions to the laggy audio?
[08:50] <sharpen047> i had the laggy audi
[08:50] <sharpen047> o
[08:50] <sharpen047> i reinstalled pulse though command line
[08:51] <sharpen047> and fixed the laggy but it wasnt full duplex( i could only play sound from one app at a time)
[08:51] <tje> which packages are those?  Lemme see what I've got installed via dpkg and see if I can reinstall w/o taking out the whole system.
[08:51] <sharpen047> so i removed that and now it says all my sound devices are broken.. but i can get sound out of one app the one i open first and then it breaks
[08:52] <tje> So you suspect it's one of those that we'll just have to wait until Ubuntu releases fixed packages?
[08:52] <sharpen047> kpackageman removes EVERYTHING lol
[08:52] <sharpen047> i hope not
[08:52] <tje> I don't know how to use any of those GUI package managers.   I've been using dpkg since I was a Debian 3.x user.
[08:52] <sharpen047> this is rediculous
[08:53] <sharpen047> unfortunately i love linux
[08:53] <sharpen047> i just hate the problems like this
[08:54] <sharpen047> i have it with everything, consistantly
[08:54] <tje> Same here.   I wouldn't use anything else save for maybe MacOS, but I've been a desktop Linux user for 10 years.
[08:54] <jussi01> sharpen047: simple fix, remove pulse audio
[08:54] <jussi01> it isnt needed in kubuntu
[08:54] <tje> jussi01,  and replace it with what per se?
[08:54] <sharpen047> oh
[08:54] <sharpen047> it is removed
[08:54] <sharpen047> its gone
[08:55] <Waistless> hi, i've got the backports in sources.list but no updates and packages like kdebase are still at version 4:4.3.2, how do I get them up to 4.3.3
[08:55] <jussi01> sharpen047: so whats the issue now?
[08:55] <Waistless> and I did do apt-get update
[08:56] <sharpen047> jussi01, i start a program say wine.. then my analog device breaks in the little notification window at the bottom right, but i still have sound in wine
[08:56] <sharpen047> until i close it
[08:57] <sharpen047> Waistless, try #ubuntu there are more people there
[08:58] <jussi01> sharpen047: what have you got in the config of wine?
[08:58] <sharpen047> you are asking the options right? not what i have enabled?
[08:58] <jussi01> sharpen047: please dont recomend #ubuntu for Kubuntu issues
[08:59] <jussi01> !info kdebase | karmic-backports
[08:59] <sharpen047> okay sorry :D
[08:59] <jussi01> Waistless: Im pretty sure 4.3.3 is only in the experimental repo
[09:00] <jussi01> (ie. the ppa)
[09:00] <Waistless> oh wow, 4.3.3 is 4.3.2 in ubuntu language, nice :P
[09:00] <sharpen047> jussi01, so are you asking what options i have?
[09:01] <jussi01> Waistless: come again?
[09:01] <Tm_T> jussi01: you used info factoid bit wrong
[09:01] <jussi01> sharpen047: honestly, Im struggling to stay awake, but check the options there and google some. my brain is hardly functioning atm, Im sorry
[09:01] <Waistless> jussi01: "KDE 4.3.3 for Karmic in the backports:" from topic channel, yet kdebase backports says 4.3.2
[09:02] <Waistless> sorry, that confused me :P
[09:02] <Tm_T> Waistless: hmm, let's see...
[09:02] <jussi01> Waistless: hang on a moment
[09:02] <sharpen047> jussi01, lol np :D thanks for trying though. google and the forums has been of no help to me :(
[09:02] <jussi01> Waistless: the topic is wrong, see the link
[09:03] <tje> Well, I'll keep hacking around on this sound issue off and on until I get it fixed.   It's 3:00 AM here in the -0600, so I'm going to have to catch some Z's.
[09:03] <tje> sharpen047,  Thanks for your suggestion about playing aorund w/ the sound options via the control panel.
[09:03] <sharpen047> tje, look for me tomorrow
[09:03] <tje> sharpen047,  Will do.   Thanks.
[09:03] <sharpen047> np :D ill be looking too
[09:04] <aomegax> sharpen047: can you help me?
[09:04] <jussi01> sharpen047: I suggest filing a bug with your exact issue
[09:04] <sharpen047> aomegax, i can try :D what do you need?
[09:04] <aomegax> sharpen047: my UUID isn't found at boot so I have busybox
[09:05] <sharpen047> do you have the exact error typed out?
[09:05] <Maree> do you have the exact error typed out?
[09:06] <aomegax> sharpen047: Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[09:06] <Maree> sharpen047: Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[09:07] <sharpen047> what are you trying to boot from?
[09:07] <Maree> what are you trying to boot from?
[09:07] <aomegax> Maree: sharpen047: yesterday i solved with update-initramfs
[09:07] <Maree> Maree: sharpen047: yesterday i solved with update-initramfs
[09:07] <aomegax> Mare
[09:07] <Maree> Mare
[09:07] <aomegax> Maree:  i boot my /root
[09:07] <Maree> Maree:  i boot my /root
[09:08] <sharpen047> i mean is it off of a hard drive or flash drive?
[09:08] <Maree> i mean is it off of a hard drive or flash drive?
[09:09] <aomegax> sharpen047: hdd
[09:09] <Maree> sharpen047: hdd
[09:10] <sharpen047> do you have the computer in front of you righ tnow?
[09:10] <Maree> do you have the computer in front of you righ tnow?
[09:10] <aomegax> yes
[09:10] <Maree> yes
[09:11] <sharpen047> type fdisk -l
[09:11] <Maree> type fdisk -l
[09:11] <aomegax> my / is ext3 while /boot ext2
[09:12] <sharpen047> which has the boot flag?
[09:13] <aomegax> sharpen047: it isn't a boot problem...i have 3 hdd...
[09:13] <svetik> есть кто?
[09:13] <aomegax> sharpen047: one moment I send you my boot information
[09:13] <sharpen047> haha well when i had the problem i didnt have a boot flag selected
[09:14] <sharpen047> aomegax, and im not very good with this im learning as im reading now :P
[09:14] <holyguyver> If I am on a system with both kde 3 & 4 apps on it, what do I put into the terminal to start the kde4 theme manager?
[09:14] <aomegax> sharpen047: ok
[09:14] <sharpen047> you have to configure it to use kde4, i forgot how to do that though kdm i believe
[09:14] <raj_>  GUYS if you have a crackling noise on a laptop with 9,10 try this and tell me if it worked for you thank you :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045
[09:15] <sharpen047> raj_, try that now
[09:15] <raj_> for HDA laptop cards
[09:15] <raj_> no problem
[09:16] <holyguyver> If I am on a system with both kde 3 & 4 apps on it, what do I put into the terminal to start the kde4 theme manager?
[09:16] <sharpen047> raj_, did you try the control panel in kde?
[09:16] <sharpen047> aomegax, did you pastebin it?
[09:17] <holyguyver> That is what I am asking for help getting to
[09:17] <jussi01> holyguyver: systemsettings
[09:17] <holyguyver> I need the terminal mand to get to the stuff
[09:17] <svetik> maybe somebody explain me why after switch user in karmic kubuntu i can't switch on composite features(even if user hase administrators right)
[09:17] <sharpen047> aomegax, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813090 have you been there?
[09:17] <sharpen047> thanks jussi01
[09:17] <jussi01> holyguyver: though you may need the full path
[09:17] <holyguyver> no systemsettings is the kde3 one
[09:17] <raj_> sharpen doesnt work .. if its an HDA u need to disable the power saver so the cracling goes away when u boot up
[09:17] <holyguyver> I want to access the kde4 one
[09:18] <jussi01> holyguyver: /usr/share/kde4/apps/systemsettings
[09:18] <sharpen047> jussi01, to the rescue!
[09:18] <sharpen047> raj_, did it work for you?
[09:18] <raj_> yes
[09:18] <holyguyver> bash: /usr/share/kde4/apps/systemsettings: No such file or directory
[09:18] <raj_> if your on ubuntu use ur texteditor not gedit on the code
[09:18] <raj_> kubuntu
[09:19] <jussi01> holyguyver: "locate systemsettings" and find it :D
[09:19] <raj_> gedit is for ubuntu .. im not suure what u use for kubuntu
[09:19] <svetik> and other noise i here in my nootbooks speakers...
[09:19] <jussi01> raj_: kate is the gedit equivalent
[09:19] <sharpen047> raj_,  i have duplex problems with my sound atm haha im thinking thats what crackling is
[09:20] <holyguyver> jussi01, perhaps this /opt/kde-nightly/bin/systemsettings ?
[09:21] <jussi01> holyguyver: ahh, yeah, maybe. you have kde4 from the nightly ppa then?
[09:21] <holyguyver> I guess so
[09:21] <jussi01> thats got to be well ancient.
[09:22] <jussi01> holyguyver: are you not on karmic ?
[09:22] <holyguyver> I am on Jaunty
[09:22] <raj_> sharpen .. if you have an HDA card the new power saver in 9.10 breaks it and makes it crackle
[09:22] <jussi01> right
[09:22] <sharpen047> raj_, let me see if its an hda card
[09:22] <sharpen047> a*
[09:23] <sharpen047> it IS a hda card, but when i uninstalled PA it didnt crackle anymore. wel for one use anyway.. i dont currently have sound
[09:24] <lbt> hi. Jaunty Q.  When I press Alt-Tab the wm just switches to the next window in the cycle. I have Desktop  effects enabled and I select box switch.  Any ideas?
[09:24] <jussi01> sharpen047: have you restarted your sound after removing pulse?
[09:25] <sharpen047> jussi01, yes
[09:25] <holyguyver> jussi01, yap /opt/kde-nightly/bin/systemsettings worked, thanks.
[09:25] <jussi01> holyguyver: great
[09:25] <holyguyver> gut now it creates a different problem
[09:25] <jussi01> lbt: do you have anothe effect enabled also?
[09:25] <sharpen047> jussi01, if i restart again i will have sound until i open a program that program and that program only will have sound, if i close it the system needs a reboot to have sound again
[09:26] <holyguyver> it opened up the system settings thing, but it is a blank grey window, so I still cannot change the theme from it.
[09:26] <jussi01> sharpen047: and you are certain you removed pulse?
[09:26] <lbt> jussi01: not in "Window Management"
[09:26] <sharpen047> jussi01, i removed pulse but i dont know if i removed EVERYTHING because the system is saying pulseis broken and i should remove it(but it syas that about my alsa one too )
[09:26] <jussi01> holyguyver: the old nightly ppa is definately not supported. If I may suggest an upgrade/reinstall, karmic is _much_ better
[09:27] <holyguyver> Well that is not an option for me at the moment
[09:27] <jussi01> sharpen047: sudo apt-get remove --puge pulseaudio
[09:27] <sharpen047> puge? purge?
[09:28] <aomegax> sharpen047: it doesn't work for me
[09:28] <jussi01> holyguyver: seems to me youve a pretty broken system, which is nearly impossible to support. :/
[09:28] <jussi01> sharpen047: sorry
[09:28] <holyguyver> So do you know how I can access the theme manager?
[09:28] <holyguyver> it shouldn't be that hard to tell me a cammand line to access the theme manager
[09:28] <jussi01> holyguyver: unles you fix systemsettings, then I dont think you can
[09:29] <jussi01> holyguyver: the theme manager is part of systemsettigns
[09:29] <sharpen047> jussi01, Package pulseaudio is not installed, so not removed
[09:29] <holyguyver> well shouldn't there be a non gui way?
[09:29] <sharpen047> aomegax, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127779   <<< for someone whos UUIDs match
[09:29] <jussi01> holyguyver: its very hardd, as it seems everything you have is in non standard locations
[09:30] <holyguyver> No, just my KDE4 :p
[09:30] <jussi01> holyguyver: may I ask why the upgrade is out of the question atm?
[09:30] <sollie> hi there
[09:30] <sharpen047> hello
[09:31] <holyguyver> jussi01, it also probably doesn't help the locations in that I have been doing inplace upgrades since like Dapper :p
[09:31] <jussi01> holyguyver: ouchies..
[09:32] <holyguyver> So honestly upgrading might not be as good for me as a clean install :p
[09:32] <sharpen047> jussi01, according to kpackagekit pulse is still installed, but apt-get says otherwise
[09:32] <aomegax> sharpen047: I have already done apt-get upgrade but nothing
[09:32] <jussi01> sharpen047: have you sudo apt-get update'ed since?
[09:34] <sharpen047> aomegax,  that is just to complete the "fix" the first post has the commands
[09:34] <holyguyver> jussi01, but now that I know where my KDE4 is, it shouldn't be that hard for me to guess the correct cammand path now, so what is the non-gui way of chanign the kde4 theme?
[09:34] <sharpen047> jussi01, i just did and it says they are still installed on kpk
[09:35] <jussi01> holyguyver: Ive no ide tbh. ANd I am dead tired, so I really dont feel like searching google when I think you might be quite capable of doing that ;)
[09:36] <holyguyver> jussi01, Alright, thank you for your help :)
[09:36] <sharpen047> jussi01, alright i found it, pulse is gone but the plugins, utils and plugins are still installed, i cant uninstall without removing everything installed atm
[09:37] <sharpen047> plugins utils and extensions... im tired too :P
[09:37] <lbt> jussi01: I disabled all other effects and there's no change (in alt-tab behaviour)
[09:38] <lbt> I'm using openGL, not Xrender BTW
[09:38] <jussi01> lbt: which wm are you using?
[09:38] <lbt> normal kde so kwin I guess
[09:38] <jussi01> hrm
[09:38] <jussi01> curious
[09:38] <lbt> *nod*
[09:39] <lbt> this is a fairly vanilla (and new) ubuntu jaunty install
[09:39] <jussi01> lbt: why jaunty?
[09:40] <aomegax> sharpen047: in fstab can I have the same partition mounted in 2 point?
[09:40] <lbt> local setup for a group here - we did it just b4 karmic launched
[09:41] <lbt> plan to upgrade in new year - we have a deadline looming so not now :)
[09:41] <c0nfus3d> Hi All, i am trying to add a menu to KDE for a command line tool (for example) dig - however, it is asking for [sudo] password - can i skip this or prompt in any way?
[09:41] <jussi01> lbt: ok, so tell me exactly what happens when you hit alt+tab
[09:41] <sharpen047> aomegax, haha how did you find that out? what command?
[09:41] <lbt> it cylces between all non-iconised windows - ie each comes to the fg in turn
[09:42] <jussi01> lbt: and no thumbs in the middle of the screen?
[09:42] <lbt> no
[09:42] <jussi01> ok, thats the only bit missing, the rest is how it works.
[09:42] <lbt> that's what I want . and to include iconised windows on the current desktop
[09:42] <Tomz> Hello. can someone help? I need to be able to print via network from this kubuntu machine to my Windows machine down stairs. The windows machine is already set up for network printing as I am able to print with my windows laptop, but how do I configure this linux machine to see the printers on the other machine?
[09:43] <jussi01> lbt: perhaps try cover switch to see if its the desktop effects being evil?
[09:43] <lbt> tried that :)
[09:43] <lbt> tried again with no other effects
[09:43] <lbt> and same
[09:44] <jussi01> lbt: and you are sure you have correct drivers installed and the little enable desktop effects switch clicked?
[09:45] <lbt> yes - translucency and other effects work when enabled
[09:45] <jussi01> lbt: I cant suggest anything other than file a bug at this point. sorry
[09:45] <Tomz> Hello. can someone help? I need to be able to print via network from this kubuntu machine to my Windows machine down stairs. The windows machine is already set up for network printing as I am able to print with my windows laptop, but how do I configure this linux machine to see the printers on the other machine?
[09:45] <lbt> jussi01: OK - thanks for trying...
[09:47] <jussi01> Tomz: go to http://localhost:631 - its fairly simple to configure
[09:47] <Tomz> jussi01 thanks, Ill check that out :)
[09:49] <Tomz> jussi01 im fairly new to this. I dont really know what to do...
[09:49] <jussi01> Tomz: you are on karmic?
[09:50] <Tomz> jussi01 yep, I think so. its kubuntu 9.10.. the new one
[09:50] <jussi01> Tomz: so, you have that config page up?
[09:50] <Tomz> jussi01 Yep
[09:50] <jussi01> just click admin (at the top) and add printer.
[09:51] <jussi01> it should be fairly self explanitory from there
[09:51] <Tomz> Adding Printers and Classes ?
[09:52] <Tomz> OH
[09:52] <Tomz> I see
[09:52] <Tomz> sorry
[09:52] <jussi01> :)
[09:54] <Tomz> Looking for printers...
[09:54] <aomegax> one people helps me to solve my damned problem?
[09:57] <Tomz> Meh. jussi01, its still searching for Printers and it hasn't found any :(
[09:59] <Tomz> jussi01 pretty sure its not finding any
[10:09] <^kenhoob-it1> hello
[10:09] <^kenhoob-it1> can I use kde4 with ubuntu 8.04?
[10:10] <^kenhoob-it1> how can I install it?
[10:12] <^kenhoob-it1> help
[10:12] <^kenhoob-it1> hello amichair
[10:15] <c0nfus3d> can anybody guide me with the following:l, i am trying to add a menu to KDE for a command line tool (for example) dig - however, it is asking for [sudo] password - can i skip this or prompt in any way?
[10:16] <amichair> c0nfus3d: maybe try "kdesudo <command>", which should prompt for the password via gui
[10:17] <c0nfus3d> i want to avoid that password prompting amichair
[10:17] <c0nfus3d> or can i add that password through the kde menu editor or any option?
[10:17] <amichair> c0nfus3d: if it's a command that requires root priviledges, there's no way around it...
[10:18] <^kenhoob-it1> amichair is kde4 stable
[10:18] <^kenhoob-it1> ?
[10:18] <Tm_T> ^kenhoob-it1: is
[10:20] <c0nfus3d> thanks amichair
[10:21] <aomegax> :( nothing!
[10:21] <aomegax> don't work!
[10:21] <aomegax> uff
[10:21] <kavurt> ^kenhoob-it1: upgrade to karmic. karmic is perfect. better than hardy.
[10:22] <aomegax> kavurt: yes? upgrade to karmic doesn't work for me! damned problem with initramfs
[10:23] <aomegax> kavurt: yesterday i have solved when i did apt-get upgrade after mounting my distro in live...but now the same problem
[10:23] <aomegax> kavurt: can you help me?
[10:24] <kavurt> aomegax: what  did you do and what happened?
[10:26] <aomegax> kavurt: -.- now it works...
[10:27] <aomegax> kavurt: at boot hdd isn't found...a problem with UUID
[10:27] <aomegax> kavurt: i have busybox
[10:30] <aomegax> kavurt: again it doesn't work
[10:32] <kavurt> what have you done?
[10:32] <aomegax> kavurt: I have done upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10...at boot it doesn't work
[10:33] <aomegax> kavurt: i have alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID does not exist
[10:33] <kavurt> so you have problem with grub, I guess?
[10:34] <aomegax> kavurt: yesterday I did update-initramfs and apt-get upgrade and it works, but tomorrow again...before i did rootdelay=60 and works...restart and doesn't work
[10:35] <aomegax> kavurt: i don't know...UUID of hdd is the same in menu.lst and in fstab
[10:36] <kavurt> now what os are you on aomegax?
[10:36] <^kenhoob-it1> what's the difference between the packets kubuntu-desktop and kde?
[10:37] <aomegax> 9.10
[10:37] <aomegax> kavurt: the problem is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813090
[10:37] <^kenhoob-it1> is it the same thing using kubuntu or kde?
[10:37] <aomegax> kubuntu
[10:37] <aomegax> yes
[10:38] <aomegax> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde without gnome
[10:38] <aomegax> ubuntu is gnome
[10:43] <KjetilK> I had my one-year-old on my lap, and she tends to find keyboard shortcuts I'm not aware of... :-) Now, she changed the timezone of the panel clock, and I can't get it back to the local default... Back in the day, it used to be easy to set it to any of the configured timezones, but now I can't find it...
[10:44] <Tm_T> KjetilK: you have the default clock?
[10:44] <aomegax> kavurt: nothing?
[10:45] <Tm_T> KjetilK: and thats btw why I dont allow my daughter to touch keyboard (:
[10:45] <KjetilK> :-)
[10:45] <Drunkpunk1> no probs with screen res until two days a go now cant set above 800x600, reinstalled driver, downgraded driver, reinstalled old driver all attempts to google the solution have failed any help much appreciated
[10:45] <Drunkpunk1> (hey all bt)!)
[10:45] <Drunkpunk1> btw*
[10:45] <KjetilK> Tm_T, yeah, I guess I have to make sure she doesn't
[10:45] <amichair> KjetilK: k-menu->system settings->Date&Time
[10:45] <Tm_T> KjetilK: does rightclicking give you "digital clock settings" option?
[10:46] <Dazzler> hi
[10:46] <KjetilK> Tm_T, yeah
[10:46] <KjetilK> amichair, everything there is OK
[10:46] <Tm_T> KjetilK: there's timezones?
[10:46] <Dazzler> how to configure my account in kopete?
[10:46] <KjetilK> yeah, and it says default "local"
[10:47] <Dazzler> its not connecting to the server
[10:47] <Tm_T> KjetilK: hmm, so if you use scrollwheel on top of clock...
[10:47] <amichair> KjetilK: if everything's set right and it ain't, something's wrong :-)
[10:47] <amichair> KjetilK: maybe try setting them to something else, applyting, and setting back?
[10:47] <KjetilK> Tm_T, aha, that's it! :-)
[10:47] <Tm_T> KjetilK: nice (:
[10:47] <Drunkpunk1> any advice on how to adjust xconf or nvidia or both from terminal?
[10:47] <KjetilK> heh, so it was the mouse and not a keyboard shortcut :-)
[10:48] <KjetilK> thanks a lot!
[10:48] <amichair> Tm_T: scrollwheel where?
[10:48] <Tm_T> amichair: over the clock, it switches timezone from the set you have enabled
[10:49] <KjetilK> it used to be a menu on right-clicking
[10:49] <amichair> Tm_T: oh, I guess I have only one so it doesn't :-) but good to know!
[10:49] <Tm_T> KjetilK: scroll has been there long time too (:
[10:49] <KjetilK> it is actually a very nice feature when you collaborate or travel across timezones
[10:49] <amichair> strangely enough, if I click the wheel over the clock, a little stickit plasmoid icon is added to the panel.
[10:50] <amichair> s/stickit/post-it/
[10:50] <KjetilK> heh, everyone should have a one-year-old to teach them about new features ;-)
[10:50] <KjetilK> she taught me about pushing the mouse up to the left-upper corner too :-)
[10:51] <Tm_T> amichair: that's paste
[10:51] <amichair> Tm_T: past of what? I haven't touched a postit plasmoid in weeks
[10:52] <Tm_T> amichair: you have something in primary selection, so you paste something to plasma -> it does something for it
[10:52] <Tm_T> possibly
[10:53] <Tm_T> that's how it should do anyway, even more and better in incoming 4.4 release
[10:53] <amichair> Tm_T: I see... if I do it on the desktop it opens a full postit note with clipboard contents. still a bit strange, but now I get it :-)
[10:54] <amichair> Tm_T: although it's messed up when on the panel
[10:55] <Tm_T> amichair: I'm not surprised (:
[10:58] <KjetilK> BTW, is there a "what you should know about KDE 4.3 Desktop to be an efficient user" tutorial somewhere?
[10:59] <KjetilK> there appears to be a lot of new cool features for daily usage, but I'm working pretty much like I did with fvwm back in the day...
[10:59] <amichair> I'm not sure u can be an efficient user just yet, but here's hoping for an awesome kde 4.4 :-)
[10:59] <Tm_T> KjetilK: tell me if you find one (;)
[11:00] <amichair> there's kubuntuguide.org which is great, but it's more about installing/configuring things that shotcuts and the like
[11:00] <amichair> s/that/than
[11:00] <KjetilK> right
[11:00] <amichair> I think my keyboard is going bad. or neurons.
[11:15] <WilliamBuell> I lost my entire Ubuntu system around midnight, and I just spent 6 hours reinstalling it from scratch and adding apps
[11:20] <^peter^> WilliamBuell   well you made good time.   including all updates etc ...
[11:21] <kavurt> WilliamBuell: why did you lose entire system?
[11:22] <amin007110> #kubuntu-ir
[11:22] <amin007110> oops
[11:24] <pinkgothic> *tentative timid wave* Hi, guys, I'm trying to get Kubuntu to prompt me for my SSH key pass on login. I've apt-get'ed ssh-askpass to no avail. I'm thinking I probably have to tell ssh-add to actually -use- it, but I have no idea how to do that.
[11:27] <pinkgothic> Is this even the right place to ask that kind of question or is it too specific for this channel's scope? *genuinely doesn't know, sorry*
[11:33] <WilliamBuell> i am a beginner pinkgothic wish i could help you, i lost my entire ubuntu install because of faulty backup procedure, and have spent past 6 hours reinstalling from scratch
[11:34] <pinkgothic> WilliamBuell: Ouuuuuch! Good luck with that. D:
[11:34] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: hmmm
[11:34] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: you mean when you login using ssh?
[11:34] <WilliamBuell> well, i made ELABORATE notes of each thing I did during days of install at my http://williambuell.wordpress.com blog so it went much smoother
[11:35] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: or login locally?
[11:36] <pinkgothic> Tm_T: I've uploaded my keys to several locations to do away with password prompts, but the shell still prompts me for my SSH key passphrase, so I've put ssh-add into Kubuntu's autostart, apt-get'ed ssh-askpass, but it's not prompting me at start. Still asks for my key passphrase when I try to log in to the sites I copied my SSH keys to.
[11:36] <pinkgothic> Login locally, to answer the question.
[11:36] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: you use ssh key only when login using ssh, it's ssh key afterall
[11:37] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: hmmmm, ok, actually, I'm not sure I understood what you said, let me reread for a moment (:
[11:37] <pinkgothic> Yes. But our SVN asks for my SSH password at several locations and it makes working with it a chore, so I've ssh-copy-id'ed my SSH key to it. It no longer prompts for my SSH password. My shell just asks me for my SSH key passphrase.
[11:38] <pinkgothic> It does it each time my SSH password is requested, though, so there's no net gain at all. Hence wanting to have ssh-add at start-up.
[11:38] <pinkgothic> Right now I can ssh-add on console for the session, of course, that helps.
[11:38] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: I think what you need is ssh-agent
[11:39] <pinkgothic> Ooh. Let me check if I have that.
[11:41] <pinkgothic> Looks like I do. Let me see if I can get somewhere with that. Thanks so far, Tm_T!
[11:45] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: hmmm, make sure you don't have seahorse running or causing problems other way
[11:46] <pinkgothic> Pardon the newbism, but what is seahorse and how would I check whether it's running? :<
[11:48] <Tm_T> !info seahorse
[11:49] <Tm_T> it's some kind of tool to hold and manage gpg keys and stuff, I have seen it causing trouble in KDE-side too ):
[11:50] <pinkgothic> Well, there's no commandline program of that name, so I guess I don't have it...
[11:51] <pinkgothic> All right, more newbism. (Sorry. T_T) What should I be doing with ssh-agent? It sounds like a daemon, put putting it into autostart does nothing.
[11:51] <pinkgothic> but^
[11:52]  * pinkgothic even put it into autostart followed by ssh-add, which the man page (the way I read it) suggests to be necessary.
[11:52] <pinkgothic> (For reference, ssh-askpass is still installed)
[11:57] <pinkgothic> Ohoh. Oh. I may be being stupid. Hold on.
[12:07] <kevin_> Hi, I have a little question. I'm busy remastering a live cd of kubuntu, and I need to make sure the mounting of usb devices is not allowed anymore for the normal live user. Does anyone have a clue how to achieve this?
[12:12] <coldserver> Anyone here have Kate installed? I need a small favor... need to send me the python.xml file inside "/usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax"
[12:14] <jussi01> coldserver:
[12:14] <jussi01> http://pastebin.com/f1055c846
[12:14] <coldserver> thanks!
[12:15] <pinkgothic> Tm_T: Got help from my local Linux guru. Just so you know, the answer was to put "export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass" followed by "ssh-add" into a bash-shebanged file in ".kde/Autostart" (executable, of course). Trying to autostart the commands individually didn't work for me (system was probably doing it in the wrong order?). Now it prompts me at startup. :) Glee!
[12:16] <Tm_T> pinkgothic: weird, interesting but weird
[12:16] <pinkgothic> Thanks again for your help, though. Much appreciated!
[12:17] <pinkgothic> Have a great day. :)
[12:28] <Guest60073> hello
[12:29] <Guest60073> does anyone know of shell scripting
[12:29] <Guest60073> i want to get an array of names from a webpage with ereg or similar so i can use each one?
[12:29] <Guest60073> im stumped
[12:36] <yofel> Guest60073: what shell? bash?
[12:36] <Guest60073> yeah
[12:36] <yofel> Guest60073: then the best place to ask would be in #bash ;)
[12:51] <karl__> Hello! Can anyone help me with mountall error? :) (error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libudev.so.0: invalid ELF header)
[13:10] <bodom> Hi there
[13:11] <bodom> I'm looking for a safe way to installa amarok 2.2.1 on mu kubuntu
[13:12] <noisemaker> hello hello
[13:12] <noisemaker> i would like some help with fdisk
[13:12] <noisemaker> anyone please?
[13:13] <noisemaker> thanks
[13:13] <aftertaf> me too, hddd just died on me
[13:13] <aftertaf> what you want to know on fdisk ?
[13:13] <noisemaker> well
[13:13] <noisemaker> i have two hard disks
[13:13] <noisemaker> one with windows  and one with kubuntu
[13:14] <noisemaker> and i would like to partition the one with windows
[13:14] <noisemaker> but fdisk doesnt give me the option to give gb
[13:15] <aftertaf> ahh.
[13:15] <aftertaf> install parted
[13:15] <aftertaf> it has a command UNIT to choose unints you want to use
[13:15] <noisemaker> i prefer fdisk
[13:15] <noisemaker> its more linux
[13:15] <noisemaker> xexe
[13:15] <bodom> noisemaker: on fdisk, to specify the size on GB instead of blcks, just append G after the number
[13:16] <bodom> noisemaker: i.e. size 500G
[13:16] <aftertaf> ahh :)
[13:16] <noisemaker> i create a primary partition?
[13:16] <aftertaf> anyone good at trying to recover a disk that worked yesterday and stopped this mornng ?
[13:17] <Aldaron> noisemaker: you came to #linuxhelp to ask a question, and then part in *3* minutes?!?
[13:17] <Tm_T> Aldaron: päev
[13:17] <bodom> aftertaf: step1: make a disk image with dd, if dd fails use ddrescue, then work on that image
[13:17] <noisemaker> when i give the command n starts with the numbers to partition to start and never ends
[13:17] <Aldaron> Tm_T: hyvää
[13:18]  * WilliamBuell is away: Gone away for now
[13:18] <aftertaf> when i run fdisk, doenst even see trhe disk
[13:18] <Aldaron> noisemaker: anyway, if you can't bother to wait a while for an answer, please stay away. That's all
[13:18] <aftertaf> BIOS sees it, but dmesg says buffer IO error logical block 0
[13:18] <noisemaker> of course...
[13:18] <noisemaker> great thanks
[13:19] <bodom> aftertaf: mhhh most probably your HD is fscked'off
[13:19] <aftertaf> crap! thought so
[13:19] <bodom> aftertaf: i guess you'll need professional HD recovery service
[13:19] <noisemaker> sorry i am trying to be  as accurate as i can
[13:20] <bodom> noisemaker: exactly, what are you tring to do?
[13:20] <noisemaker> hey
[13:20] <bodom> aftertaf: if even the bois doesn't recognizes your HD, then it' s big trouble
[13:20] <noisemaker> i am trying to partition the hard disk that has windows with fdisk
[13:20] <aftertaf> bodom: bios recognizes it, but nothing else does.
[13:21] <bodom> noisemaker: and wich partitions do you want to create?
[13:21] <bodom> aftertaf: and can you read something usign ddrescue?
[13:22] <noisemaker> the disk has sda1 ,sda2
[13:22] <noisemaker> i want to partition sda1
[13:22] <aftertaf> not yet tried, dont know how to...
[13:22] <aftertaf> used testdisk and it sees no partitons, just bad blocks
[13:22] <aftertaf> booting to live cd now
[13:23] <bodom> noisemaker: you'r making a mistake: sda1 IS a partition
[13:23] <bodom> noisemaker: The disk is sda, sda1 and sda2 are partitions
[13:23] <noisemaker> yess
[13:23] <noisemaker> is the main and i want to resize it to put fedora there
[13:23]  * WilliamBuell is back.
[13:24] <aftertaf> you guys want a coffee while it boots ?? :)
[13:24] <bodom> aftertaf: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[13:24] <noisemaker> fdisk says iit is already defined
[13:24] <aftertaf> ok will look ;)
[13:24] <noisemaker> if i delete it am i loosing windows?
[13:24] <bodom> noisemaker: so you want to resize the windows partition using linux fdisk?
[13:25] <noisemaker> exactly
[13:25] <bodom> noisemaker: you can't
[13:25] <bodom> noisemaker: to resize a windows partition, use a windows partition tool from windows
[13:26] <noisemaker> of course...
[13:26] <noisemaker> silly question
[13:26] <noisemaker> thanks a lot
[13:26] <bodom> noisemaker: np, you'r welcome
[13:26] <noisemaker> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.  (what about this message?)
[13:27] <noisemaker> this is at sda1 disk
[13:28] <bodom> noisemaker: it's a bit complicated, check this url http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.hardware/2008-03/msg00016.html
[13:28] <noisemaker> :-)
[13:29] <noisemaker> thanks friend
[13:29] <noisemaker> a lot
[13:29] <bodom> np
[13:48] <aftertaf> bodom: help :)
[13:49] <savisaar2> does anyone have the issue of some keys stoping working such as DEL
[13:49] <aftertaf> i just opened up my PC, tapped on the bad HDD softly with my fingers, and now its booting
[13:50] <aftertaf> i think ill make a backup while its working ;)
[13:50] <savisaar2> i need to know how to fix this issue
[13:50] <aftertaf> gkrellm shows it with 35°C, which is far from bad, right?
[13:52] <bodom> aftertaf: O_o
[13:52] <aftertaf> yeah
[13:52] <aftertaf> my thoughs exactly !
[13:53] <bodom> aftertaf: quick, quick, make a backup!
[13:53] <aftertaf> yeah
[13:53] <aftertaf> i think the hdd is fscked
[13:55] <aftertaf> very weird way of doing things though . . . . ;
[13:55] <bodom> aftertaf: I had forgot the good old method: "Where in doubt, use an hammer..."
[13:55] <aftertaf> :D
[13:55] <aftertaf> a smal ltoffee hammer with felt wrapped on it
[13:55] <aftertaf> and if that fails a good slapping ;)
[13:56] <bodom> rotfl
[13:56] <aftertaf> basically : woke up at midday, booted PC to kde... no network, which is weird...
[13:57] <aftertaf> so i went to gnome, which connected the wifi ok..... but then has a panel panic and left me with 2 icons on the desktop
[13:57] <aftertaf> i ALT-F1'ed, and conldn't log in, cgave me read errors instead of password prompt
[13:57] <aftertaf> so i hardreset with the button
[13:58] <aftertaf> and then you kow the rest
[13:58] <bodom> aftertaf: i had you same issue long time ago
[13:58] <bodom> that's why i always use raid now
[13:58] <bodom> (and ackup, obviously)
[13:58] <aftertaf> raid 1?
[13:58] <aftertaf> mirroring?
[13:59] <bodom> raid 1 o 5, dependind on the hardware
[13:59] <aftertaf> and the $$$
[13:59] <aftertaf> :)
[13:59] <bodom> sorry for typos, I'm dislessic today
[14:00] <bodom> drives are become cheap
[14:00] <aftertaf> true
[14:00] <bodom> you can get a TB for few €
[14:01] <aftertaf> think ill go now to the shop and spend more money
[14:01] <aftertaf> again
[14:01] <aftertaf> :)
[14:02] <bodom> hehe
[14:02] <bodom> I suggest you to check rsync for remote backup too
[14:02]  * WilliamBuell is away: Gone away for now
[14:02] <bodom> you can easily configure it and make it scheduled with cron
[14:04] <aftertaf> yeah, was thinking of doing that before i killed my data partiton and 30G of music 2 weeks ago
[14:04] <aftertaf> :))))
[14:05] <aftertaf> in MB BIOS sata settings, whats difference between IDE native and AHCI ?
[14:05] <bodom> man, you are recidive :P
[14:05] <aftertaf> bit stuck on box space for RAID right now :(
[14:06] <bodom> IDE native: put SATA controller in PATA-compatible mode (/dev/hdx)
[14:06] <bodom> AHCI: use true SATA stack (/dev/sdx)
[14:07] <bodom> if you'r using lastest kubuntu, AHCI should be the better choice
[14:07] <aftertaf> ok thx
[14:08] <aftertaf> its rebooting :)
[14:08] <aftertaf> ok. will setup backups of everything in tripartite, and see what happens :)
[14:16] <aftertaf> thx for your support, cu around ;)
[14:40] <zoggy> sorry to ask a bunch of questions, but how can i get php syntax highlighting for .m2 files please. i've added the *.m2 under the window / preferences / content type / Text / PHP Content Type but the file has no syntax highlighting, i've googled around. please please could someone give me the slap of knowledge, thanks!
[14:45] <savisaar2> can someone help me....i have issue wih\
[14:46] <tom_> hi guys....   short question about kate:   is it possible to configure kate somehow to always us an already open session, when opening a new file?  and use a new tab within that session?  I know this is possble via commandline.. but there must be some way to do this at a "single" place for all text files that are opened by defulat with kate
[14:48] <bodom> tom_: check session options, it should be
[14:52] <tom_> bodom:  actually...  if you are refering to the "session management" under settings->configure  there is no option there to do this..
[14:54] <tom_> I am on kde 4.3.2  if that helps
[14:54] <bodom> tom_: setting -> config -> sessions
[14:57] <tom_> thats right bodom  there are only 3 options:
[14:57] <tom_> > Behavior on application start up
[14:57] <tom_>   >*Start new session
[14:57] <tom_>   >*Load Last-used Session
[14:57] <tom_>   >*Manually choose a session
[14:57] <FloodBotK2> tom_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <bodom> tom_: load last used session doesn't work as expected for you?
[14:59] <tom_> actually .. not really..  i mean if I close all running instances of kate and then start kate again I will get my last saved session, that's right.  but If I load a file while another instance of kate is still running I would like that file to be opened in the already running instance instead of a new one
[15:00] <tom_> bodom: ...
[15:01] <bodom> tom_: i understand. you have to investigate dolphin settings and change the command line used when a file is opened with kate
[15:02] <bodom> tom_: then add something in the command line to tell kate to don't open a new window
[15:07] <tom_> bodom: I know the commandline option is "-u"   and I could theoretically change that setting in the "file associations" settings of kde but that would not be very pratical, since I would need to change the seetting for dozens of files types...
[15:12] <K350> It seems like my kubuntu karmic starts upp with old sessions. Where and how can I adjust that?
[15:15] <th3_b0b> Hi! I'm running Kubuntu Karmic with the default KDE 4 version (4.3.2, is it?) on an ASUS Notebook with an intel CoreDuo Prozessor. Now, when the system boots, it enters "Performance"-Mode but the cpu governor remains "ondemand". When I set it to "performance" manually via "cpufreq-set -c {0,1} -g performance", all is fine. But if I then enter battery mode an reenter ac-power mode, the governor is back in "ondemand".... any ideas?
[15:16] <Tm_T> th3_b0b: try see your settings in systemsettings
[15:16] <Tm_T> th3_b0b: the advanced tab and there's "powerdevil"
[15:17] <doleyb> th3_b0b: I have mostly the same problem... and no solution yet.
[15:18] <th3_b0b> Tm_T: would that be in the "System" area or in the "Advanced Usersettings" area? I'm running on german locale...
[15:18] <Tm_T> th3_b0b: system, I guess
[15:19] <th3_b0b> Tm_T: Ok, so there I can open the settings I also see when selecting "More.." in the Plasma-Applet for Power-Profile control. All seems to be right there...
[15:20] <Tm_T> th3_b0b: hmmm, interesting
[15:20] <Tm_T> th3_b0b: other than that, I cannot say
[15:20] <th3_b0b> doleyb: In how far "mostly"? Did you manage to bring your system up dircetly into (real) "performance" mode?
[15:21] <doleyb> th3_b0b: No I didn't get it working right yet, and my problem is a little different.  It's stuck on a frequency range of 800-800, instead of 800-1800 like it should be.  I can't even change it on commandline yet.
[15:21] <th3_b0b> Tm_T: Ok... Thx anyway
[15:21] <th3_b0b> doleyb: Oh, ok
[15:22] <doleyb> th3_b0b: Note that you can enter a commandline to execute whenever your power adapted is plugged in or out.
[15:24] <th3_b0b> doleyb: Yes, sure... But I wonder mostly why automatic switching from "performance" to "ondemand" is working but not the other way round...
[15:29] <K350> Some KDE apps don't have the same color sheme or themes that I use in my kubuntu 9.10. Why is that and what can I do to adjust it?
[15:35] <InforMed> Hi!
[15:35] <InforMed> Every time I suspend my pc and resume I have no tray icon sound control
[15:35] <InforMed> can someone help-me?
[15:38] <michael23> witam wszystkich
[15:39] <michael23> pomoze ktos?
[15:46] <at1as> What happened to "Troubleshoot IMAP Cache" in Kmail/Kontact in 9.10?
[15:46] <maco> its still there
[15:47] <maco> right click on a folder, go to Properties, and its on the maintenance tab
[15:47] <at1as> how?  Right click doesn't bring it up?
[15:47] <at1as> ahhhh
[15:47] <maco> yeah, it moved
[15:47] <at1as> thanks
[15:48] <at1as> it looked like Akonadi didn't support my DIMAP setups...  but fell back to "old stuff"
[15:48] <at1as> is there a way to use pure Akonadi for this?
[15:48] <at1as> something I
[15:48] <at1as> 'm missing?
[15:50] <savisaar2> issues with some keys not working can someone help me please?
[15:50] <savisaar2> sometimes works...sometimes doesnt
[15:51] <savisaar2> specificallyy....shift...del...caps
[15:54] <savisaar2> i cant fix this....can someone help
[16:10] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[16:10] <Tank__> must get popcorn for the show
[16:13] <InforMed> HI! I suspend the pc and when I resume I have no kmix tray icon... I need to restar it manually... ANy way to make it start automatically when resume from suspend?
[16:16] <DixTrex> hello everyone..
[16:17] <DixTrex> k, I have a problem with Karmic
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !ask | DixTrex
[16:17] <DixTrex> Network manager not working properly, so I un-installed it, and re-installed with Package manager
[16:18] <DixTrex> Now network manager is not loading at startup
[16:18] <DixTrex> what is the terminal command, and how to I get it to start everytime at startup
[16:19] <DixTrex> ubottu, thanx for the info
[16:30] <DixTrex> anyone/
[16:30] <DixTrex> perhaps too early in the morning....
[16:31] <BluesKaj> DixTrex, I'm not a fan of network manager , I use wicd
[16:32] <BluesKaj> on my laptop
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !wicd
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[16:34] <DixTrex> BluesKaj, just my luck, lol
[16:34] <DixTrex> BluesKaj, can you run VPN on vicd?
[16:35] <DixTrex> pptp to be more exact
[16:38] <BluesKaj> dunno , I use ssh
[16:42] <BluesKaj> DixTrex,  I set up my wired -eth0 desktop on /etc/network/interfaces , instead of using a network manager with this tutorial, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[16:43] <BluesKaj> anyway , it's time for my daily walk ..bb in an hr or so
[16:44] <nusanet> .......................
[16:54] <xerosis> does anyone know where I could start debugging a problem where suspend from KMenu doesn't work but does from command-line? It worked in previous versions of Kubuntu too
[16:58] <mister_roboto> xerosis: you could look for differences in the actual command being run via menu vs via command line
[16:58] <mister_roboto> xerosis: and maybe some info shows up in /var/log/messages?
[16:59]  * WilliamBuell is back.
[17:07] <Finswimmer> Hello, I have a Acer TravelMate 4000, Kubuntu 9.10 and a not working battery-status. It is said, that I need "Smart Battery System". There is acpi_sbs. But how can I activate it in Kubntu?
[17:09] <bodom> Finswimmer: check system settings window
[17:11] <Finswimmer> bodom: What exactly should I check there? The Battery Indicator is always 17%. (or less if I unplug the Laptop). So there PowerDevil thinks it must turn off the Laptop.
[17:12] <bodom> FireCrotch: so it's a dirrefent issue
[17:12] <Finswimmer> (It is the laptop of my gf using Kubuntu. I use Gentoo, so I know Linux quite good). But with this Battery System of Acer I am working for the first time.
[17:12] <bodom> Finswimmer: so it's a different issue
[17:13] <bodom> Finswimmer: it should be linux kernel / acpi related, not specifically to kubuntu
[17:14] <Finswimmer> bodom: Hmm. dmesg|grep -i bat gives me: ACPI: Smart Battery System (SBS0): Battery Slot [Bat1] (battery present).
[17:14] <lovre> i have a bluetooth stick, how do i work with it? I plugged it in, and nothing happens
[17:15] <Finswimmer> But it shows ther wrong capacity.
[17:15] <lovre> !bluetooth
[17:17] <bodom> Finswimmer: acpi -v ?
[17:20]  * WilliamBuell is away: Gone away for now
[17:21] <Finswimmer> bodom: Battery 1: Full, 99% \n Battery 1: design capasity 3903mAh, last full capacity 673mAh = 17%
[17:22] <Finswimmer> bodom: Battery 1: Full, 99% \n Battery 1: design capasity 3903mAh, last full capacity 673mAh = 17%
[17:22] <Finswimmer> uh. sorry.
[17:23] <bodom> FireCrotch: mhhh... looks like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306004
[17:24] <bodom> Finswimmer: but there isn't a solutions in the thread
[17:24] <bodom> Finswimmer: sorry, I dunno how to help
[17:25] <Finswimmer> bodom: Thank you very much. At least I know that acpi is working "correctly" (almost).
[17:26] <bodom> Finswimmer: you'r welcome
[17:29] <Recnammorcen> any1 can help me with my wlan connection?
[17:33] <kostas> snigelgr ?
[17:33] <kostas> kanenas ellinas edo re pedia?
[17:46] <MTGap_> I'm looking for a n64 emulator that works good and is qt. I can only find gtk
[17:51] <BluesKaj> !gr | kostas
[17:55] <lovre> !kdebluetooth
[17:55] <lovre> !kbluetooth
[17:55] <D-coy> ja! la m4v y su infección anal aca andan xD
[17:55] <lovre> how do i know if im using kdebluetooth4?
[17:56] <bazhang> !es | D-coy
[17:56] <D-coy> bazhang, ok :)
[18:03] <strudell> i'm here again
[18:03] <strudell> Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[18:03] <strudell> Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[18:03] <strudell> Microsoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.
[18:03] <FloodBotK3> strudell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <K350> Some kde applications don't have or use the same colorshme or themes as I usualy have in m ykubuntu karmic. If they're not kde4 maybe? Eitherway. why is that and how can I adjust this?
[18:30] <DixTrex> Q: if i wanted to copy my network-manager files and config from live CD to my system files, what do I need to copy?
[18:32] <MTGap_> the .kde in the home directory
[18:32] <MTGap_> It's a hidden directory
[18:33] <sharpen047> hey, would anyone know how to stop wines sound from being all jittery with alsa?( if i kill pulse audio it works find but PA respawns)
[18:34] <devilsadvocate> MTGap_, sure .kde contains network manager files?
[18:34] <MTGap_> I don't see why not....
[18:34] <MTGap_> I guess you could also copy .local to be safe
[18:35] <DixTrex> so... there's a hidden folder for network manager
[18:35] <DixTrex> in home dir
[18:36] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, that folder contains _all_ kde related config stuff
[18:36] <devilsadvocate> all / most
[18:36] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, if its just network manager couldnt you just redo the thing in your install?
[18:36] <MTGap_> Yes, so when you start your normal session you should load up what you currently have on the live cd
[18:36] <DixTrex> it doen't do it.., lol
[18:37] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, somehow that seems saner to me, unless you have an insanely complex network config that takes a half hour to setup
[18:37] <DixTrex> re-installed through packet manager, and now network manager will not load
[18:37] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, so that sounds like a totally different headache
[18:38] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate, you would think, but just a basic dhcp setup that does not load
[18:38] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate, loads fine in live cd, and recovery mode, but not under regular account
[18:40] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate, tried to install other network-manager support files, but since no network
[18:40] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate, connection, apt-get or kpackage cannot fetch
[18:41] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, dhcp, you said?
[18:43] <gormux> hi there
[18:43] <gormux> i'm serching for a way to get kde 4.4, is there a testing repository ?
[18:43] <sharpen047> hey, would anyone know how to stop wines sound from being all jittery with alsa?( if i kill pulse audio it works find but PA respawns)
[18:43] <gormux> or do I have to compile it myself ?
[18:45] <doleyb> sharpen047: would it hurt you to just uninstall pulseaudio?
[18:46] <sharpen047> doleyb, good question, but yes i uninstalled it last night and it "broke" all of my sound devices. i could use it once then it would break the only working device. until i restarted then i can use one more program before it would break
[18:47] <sharpen047> doleyb, i mean broken as the notifications on the bottom right told me to remove them because they didnt work
[18:47] <BluesKaj> sharpen047, don't just kill pulseaudio , purge it , espaecially if you don't need for audio ..it's an extra layer of soundserving not required on alot of setups
[18:48] <sharpen047> BluesKaj, alright so "sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio" correct?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:49] <sharpen047> alright ill try that
[18:49] <sharpen047> thank you
[18:49] <BluesKaj> sharpen047, or ,sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[18:50] <sharpen047> reboot time
[18:51] <m1s3r> does this distro need that much rebooting?
[18:52] <doleyb> m1s3r: well in this situation it really doesn't.
[18:52] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate, yes, sorry
[18:52] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig ?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> m1s3r, only when altering kernel modules like video drivers etc
[18:53] <m1s3r> if you purge the package and kill the supported binaries that should be enough i woukd have thought but rebooting is usually quick and easy.
[18:54] <m1s3r> has pa got kernel component drivers?
[18:54] <m1s3r> I could go read.
[18:55] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, if its just a config issue, you can just put in the config directly into /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[18:55] <devilsadvocate> DixTrex, bypass networkmanager completely
[18:55] <doleyb> Hi, after getting karmic I can't change cpu speed anymore.  It used to change automatically, now I can't set the max speed to higher than min.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/326302/
[18:56] <m1s3r> is there a connected distro charity that have address list for people who would like a cd but don'tm have the internet for it.
[18:57] <DixTrex> devilsadvocate,  k, let me try that, thnx
[18:57] <m1s3r> or nfp org
[18:57] <Delano-178745216> In KDE4, how do I reposition the main bar so it's at the top of the screen and not the bottom?
[18:58] <doleyb> Delano-178745216: unlock widgets, panel settings, screen edge.
[18:58] <m1s3r> panel options, screen edge del
[18:59] <Delano-178745216> I tried that
[18:59] <Delano-178745216> It detaches my task bar widget
[18:59] <m1s3r> what prob do you have del?
[19:00] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, drag the screen edge button
[19:00] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, not on the centre of the panel
[19:00] <m1s3r> select scren edge button
[19:00] <m1s3r> no hes right it's a drag of the button
[19:01] <Delano-178745216> I don't understand
[19:01] <Delano-178745216> The screen edge button?
[19:01] <Delano-178745216> What do you mean?
[19:01] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, click on the cashew in the corner of the panel
[19:02] <m1s3r> in trhje bar that appears above the panel; when you select panel options
[19:02] <Delano-178745216> The screen edge button wouldn't drag anywhere
[19:02] <Delano-178745216> Yes I have that
[19:02] <Delano-178745216> But when I click it it does nothing
[19:02] <Delano-178745216> And can't be dragged
[19:03] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, drag it to the left corner of the screen
[19:03] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, you wont see anything happening until you go most of the way there
[19:03] <Delano-178745216> Ah!
[19:03] <Delano-178745216> Now I got it
[19:03] <Delano-178745216> Thanks devilsadvocate
[19:03] <Delano-178745216> Yeah, I see
[19:04] <m1s3r> haha do you like the mouse move or do you prefer a edge selection widget?
[19:04] <Delano-178745216> It's fine
[19:05] <m1s3r> is that just the learning curve.
[19:05] <Delano-178745216> Yeah
[19:05] <Delano-178745216> I was pretty used to kde3
[19:06] <Oceanwatcher> Anyone with experience with Windows Mobile sync here?
[19:06] <Delano-178745216> kde4 is designed quite differently
[19:06] <m1s3r> it's jus when you get to upgrading and you learn new things
[19:07] <m1s3r> nm ocean
[19:07] <Delano-178745216> m1s3r, I've shrunk the panel down to about 80% width, but it grows and shrinks according to apps running... anyway I can make it a fixed length?
[19:08] <m1s3r> you got it on the side or on the vertical edge?#
[19:08] <Delano-178745216> You mean horizontal?
[19:09] <m1s3r> did you put it left right or top or bottom/
[19:09] <Delano-178745216> Top centre
[19:10] <m1s3r> can you put it started from a corneer and expanding? but that would leave a gap on the display
[19:11] <m1s3r> i obviously know you can resize it so i guess you can but not with the screen edge move tool.
[19:11] <Delano-178745216> Resizing is no problem
[19:11] <Delano-178745216> I just want it to remain a certain size
[19:12]  * BluesKaj decides to relax in the easy chair with the laptop
[19:12] <Delano-178745216> Not grow when new apps appear in the tray
[19:12] <m1s3r> did anyone used to have anything happen if your screen was disconnected and the x server wouldn't keep in high res.
[19:13] <m1s3r> i think that will be the difference of the two resize markers on the panel settings.
[19:14] <m1s3r> the button that points to the centre moves the lower bound of the size so to speak
[19:15] <m1s3r> you get a blank space where the panel was though
[19:15] <m1s3r> is this situation ok for you?
[19:17] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, of the two arros on each end, one is the max and other is the min
[19:17] <m1s3r> ill put my panel back for my preference
[19:17] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, just put them together if you dont want it to move
[19:19] <m1s3r> i look at them like they are writer guide tabs almost.
[19:20] <turin> Hello. How can i check whether my /home is encrypted?
[19:20] <m1s3r> that's probably a tangent though
[19:20] <devilsadvocate> turin, unless you did something to it, it isnt encrypted
[19:21] <Delano-178745216> Yeah m1s3r
[19:21] <Delano-178745216> It works great
[19:21] <Delano-178745216> Thanks for your help!
[19:21] <Delano-178745216> I have one more request
[19:21] <Delano-178745216> And this is a bit on the technical side
[19:22] <m1s3r> yuo might have made -d /home/*/ encrypted but I wouldn't expect /home to be.
[19:22] <Delano-178745216> Is it possible to add kicker in the right-click menu?
[19:22] <m1s3r> like alt f2?
[19:23] <Delano-178745216> You know how you can right-click to bring up run commands, unlock widgets, etc?
[19:23] <turin> devilsadvocate: I don't remember :) If i checked this option on install or not
[19:23] <Delano-178745216> Is it possible to make it so when you right click, it brings up the kicker menu instead?
[19:23] <devilsadvocate> turin, there is no such option. it isnt encrypted
[19:24] <m1s3r> where do you right click to run a command, on the desktop?
[19:24] <turin> devil
[19:24] <turin> devilsadvocate: in Karmic should be, isn't it?
[19:25] <devilsadvocate> m1s3r, alt+f2
[19:25] <turin> devilsadvocate: I remember it from RC
[19:25] <mannyv> i accidentally deleted the panel at the bottom that shows the running applications
[19:25] <Delano-178745216> m1s3r, not exactly
[19:25] <m1s3r> desktop offers a "run c&ommand" on right click
[19:25] <mannyv> how do I add it back?
[19:25] <devilsadvocate> turin, this is the first ive heard of it. i could be wrong, though. but if its encrypted, i still think you'd know
[19:25] <Delano-178745216> m1s3r, on XFCE and Openbox, you can right-click to bring up the main menu
[19:26] <devilsadvocate> mannyv, right click and add panel
[19:26] <Delano-178745216> Is it possible to do the same on KDE?
[19:26] <mannyv> but what is the name of the panel
[19:26] <devilsadvocate> mannyv, or if you just lost the taskbar, add widgets and add taskbar
[19:26] <m1s3r> the panel or the task manager?
[19:26] <mannyv> so i still have kickstart and the system icons just not the applications that are running
[19:27] <devilsadvocate> mannyv, task manager or task bar or something
[19:27] <mannyv> devilsadvocate, task manager worked
[19:27] <mannyv> thanks!
[19:28] <m1s3r> the menus are different but I think you can add a luancher icon on you desktop too.
[19:28] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, no, you cant
[19:28] <turin> Thanks, goodbye!
[19:28] <Delano-178745216> devilsadvocate, okay, thanks
[19:31] <Delano-178745216> Is there a way to hide the "widget" button on the top-right of the screen?
[19:32] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, i believe there is a widget that does it
[19:32] <devilsadvocate> Delano-178745216, try looking in get new widgets
[19:33] <mannyv> in kickstart when I select leave there is no shutdown or reboot options only logout, hibernate, and suspend
[19:33] <m1s3r> sorry room just playing with my widgets.
[19:33] <mannyv> is there a way I can add the shutdown and reboot ?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> pretty soon there's going to be a need for a tinynick service, similar to tinyurl :)
[19:35] <m1s3r> nn
[19:38] <tsimpson> !away > WilliamBuell
[19:38]  * WilliamBuell is back.
[19:38] <tsimpson> WilliamBuell: Don't use public away messages
[19:42] <doleyb> Hi, after getting karmic I can't change cpu speed anymore.  It used to change automatically, now I can't set the max speed to higher than min.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/326302/
[19:44] <BluesKaj> doleyb, do you have cpufrequtils installed ?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> ok doleyb, in the terminal,  sudo /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -g performance
[19:46] <anoneemouse> hi... i just installed openarena and i have no sound. I get the following error: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[19:46] <andry_> Who used skipe? I need help
[19:47] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[19:47] <anoneemouse> isnt it installed by default with kubuntu?
[19:48] <anoneemouse> its already installed
[19:49] <doleyb> BluesKaj: Setting the governor changes the reported governor, but has no other effect, possibly because scaling_max_freq == scaling_min_freq.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> doleyb, a bug maybe?
[19:51] <doleyb> BluesKaj: Looks like a bug, or at least a feature regression, because this stuff used to work automatically.
[19:52] <doleyb> BluesKaj: Here's the line that bothers me:
[19:52] <doleyb> current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 800 MHz.
[20:06] <wrgb> andry_: i'm using skype
[20:06] <venik> with each upgrade kubuntu runs more slowly and tends to freeze.  Is it being developed in Redmond?
[20:06] <wrgb> andry_: what sort of problem are you having?
[20:07] <andry_> how it's download?
[20:08] <andry_> where it is?
[20:08] <wrgb> andry_: google "skype for linux" and choose the version for Ubuntu 8.10+.  Then double click on the .deb file to install it
[20:09] <andry_> yes for linux
[20:09] <andry_> distrib kubuntu
[20:10] <andry_> ok, senks, capitan Ochevidnost'
[20:11] <wrgb> andry_: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/  - the version for Ubuntu 8.10+ will work in Kubuntu
[20:37] <ner0x> Anyone use hylafax here?
[20:38] <tsimpson> ls
[20:38] <tsimpson> oops
[20:38] <yofel> hehe ^^
[20:39] <tsimpson> yakuake needs to show when it has focus better
[20:41] <K350> My kubuntu 9.10 allways boots up wiht old sessions. How and where do I adjust that?
[20:43] <tsimpson> System Settings -> Advanced (tab) -> Session Manager
[20:50] <K350> tsimpson: Checked there. But there's noting there to actually manage the sessions. From what I could see..maybe I missed something?
[20:55] <wrgb> K350: change Restore previous session to Start with new session
[21:11] <K350> wrgb: Thanks. I'll see how that'll work.
[21:11] <alessandro_> ciao
[21:12] <K350> Besides, I've another problem. How to run kd3 apps in kde4 so they'll have the same themes and colorschemes as the ones in kde4. I'm using kubuntu 9.10
[21:14] <BluesKaj> K350, well , good luck ,but  why not just install kde4 , it's stable now
[21:16] <Lynceus> BluesKaj: read again...
[21:16] <K350> BluesKaj: I thougt that's what I had. Thougt it was default in kubuntu 9.10.
[21:17] <dani> :)
[21:18] <BluesKaj> ok, my mistake , thought you were running kdemix on 9.10
[21:19] <BluesKaj> K350, read  above
[21:19] <BluesKaj> remix rather
[21:36] <K350> BluesKaj: Ah, I see:)
[21:46] <BluesKaj> K350, there are those who want a pure kde3 setup and it's surprising how many queries I've seen about it.
[21:57] <K350> BluesKaj: Oh, well I'm not so religous about kdex or kdey :-)
[22:00] <BluesKaj> K350,, I actually gave it a try for week or so, but i'm addicted to updates, and there weren't very many ...made me feel like iwas falling behind because amarok and konversation were so flaky at the time .Konversation has been fixed and I replaced amarok with vlc.
[22:09] <djustice> im missing libacl. which package is that in? i would've guessed it was libacl1-dev... but no... building kdelibs btw... tips?
[22:20] <mluser-home> Hello.. what is the equivalent to 'rpm -qf <some file>' in ubuntu?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> mluser-home, -qf ?
[22:26] <mluser-home> BluesKaj: rpm -qf <some file> tells me what package contains <some file>
[22:27] <mluser-home> I'm looking for an equivalent in Ubuntu
[22:27] <mluser-home> from a terminal if possible
[22:31] <mluser-home> Nevermind I found it 'dpkg -S /path/to/file'
[23:04] <Erthe> Hey, I've been having an issue since 8.10 that I've spent (probably too much) time trying to solve, I'm wondering if I can talk to someone who knows a fair bit about KDE internals?
[23:04] <Erthe> Everyone I've spoken to who's running Jaunty does not report this issue.
[23:04] <Erthe> So there must be a configuration file somewhere that's broken.
[23:05] <Erthe> When I hit Alt-F2 to reveal the krunner dialog, I type:  gg:some term
[23:05] <Erthe> When I hit enter, Konqueror loads but the URL in the address bar is /var/tmp/kdecache-user/krun/18320.0.search
[23:06] <Erthe> And not the URL to Google.
[23:06] <Erthe> This is getting really frustrating, using Krunner is one of the most important features of my desktop for me.
[23:10] <benbloom> I made a mistake dealing with the fglrx driver and now my resolution is 640x480 can someone help me?
[23:10] <benbloom> I had this problem before and fixed it but now I can't remember how
[23:11] <benbloom> I think KDE overwrote my xorg.conf file but I'm not having much luck changing it back
[23:11] <Erthe> KDE would not overwrite that.
[23:11] <Erthe> Unless you told it to, that is.
[23:11] <benbloom> ok so it was my fault
[23:12] <Erthe> There's a configuration utility shipped with the driver.
[23:12] <bernardo> hello guys
[23:12] <bernardo> I have just connected my notebook to my TV with an hdmi-hdmi cable... image is flawless, but the sound is still coming out from my notebook sound boxes instead of tv sound... any idea?
[23:12] <Erthe> bernardo: How did you connect the audio?
[23:13] <bernardo> hdmi
[23:13] <bernardo> erthe
[23:14] <Erthe> HDMI is video.
[23:14] <Erthe> You need to pipe the audio too.
[23:14] <bernardo> hdmi is video and audio...
[23:14] <bernardo> it works flawless on windows
[23:15] <Erthe> Is your HDMI out turned up in your mixer?
[23:15] <bernardo> yes
[23:15] <bernardo> I shouldnt hear the sound coming out from my netbook, but from the TV
[23:16] <bigbrovar> hi guys, I cant seems to get my laptop's multimedia keys (play/pulse, forward, rewind) to work with kde apps on kubuntu karmic. only gtk apps works
[23:16] <Erthe> Well, for starters, is the audio coming out of the TV at all?  Or is it both places?
[23:17] <bernardo> its not coming out of the tv, only from the notebook
[23:17] <bernardo> i want the opposite
[23:18] <Erthe> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102089.0
[23:18] <Erthe> According to this, it's audio device preference.
[23:18] <Erthe> Read that thread, should give you what you need.
[23:20] <bernardo> systemsettings -> sound?? I dont have that
[23:21] <Erthe> Lemme find the KDE equiv
[23:22] <Erthe> System Settings -> Multimedia
[23:23] <bernardo> that would be on gnome?
[23:25] <Erthe> No, this is KDE.
[23:26] <Erthe> <-- Kubuntu
[23:26] <Erthe> KDE system settings, on the first tab, has a Multimedia option
[23:26] <tzanger> Good evening
[23:26] <bernardo> haaaaa, found it, thanks erthe!
[23:26] <tzanger> after my 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade (dist-upgrade) my automatic updates no longer work.  apt-get update/ugprade of course works but there's no more tray notification
[23:26] <tzanger> any ideas on where to start looking?
[23:27] <Erthe> bernardo: np man
[23:27] <Erthe> Let me know if that works.
[23:27] <tzanger> kpackagekit seems to think it's supposed to be working
[23:36] <dtchen> tzanger: you might want to see if the corresponding Ubuntu change has any relation: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Change%20in%20notifications%20of%20available%20updates
[23:39] <benbloom> so can I have help reconfiguring my display options?
[23:40] <benbloom> I made a mistake dealing with the fglrx driver and now my resolution is 640x480 can someone help me?
[23:40] <Erthe> benbloom: System Settings -> Display
[23:42] <benbloom> Erthe: max display is 640x480 says driver is vesa (which should not be)
[23:43] <Erthe> nvidia-xconfig
[23:43] <benbloom> I'm using an ATI card
[23:45] <Erthe> Oh.
[23:45] <Erthe> Did you install the ATI driver?
[23:45] <benbloom> fglrx driver
[23:47] <benbloom> I'm thinking of just stepping up to Karmic (at Hardy now) perhaps this will fix my problem. at least I can start over with configs
[23:47] <benbloom> what's the best way to upgrade? do I have to download the CD?
[23:48] <Erthe> Well, I would remove the package with the driver.
[23:48] <Erthe> Reboot.
[23:48] <Erthe> It should prompt you to install it again.
[23:48] <Erthe> You can upgrade over the internet, you just have to find instructions.
[23:48] <benbloom> lol if i can read them. screen is so HUGE
[23:49] <Erthe> You should actually be able to just upgrade your distribution.
[23:50] <Erthe> ie. apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:56] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[23:57] <jacquesdupontd> i just installed kubuntu wanted to see how it evolved since 5 years i was using gnome and xfce, and i'm really really suprised it's really beautiful and really different from other window managers
[23:57] <jacquesdupontd> but i'm in front of different little problems
[23:57] <maco> hello :)
[23:58] <jacquesdupontd> konqueror is still mm, shi...y and i installed firefox, it works perfectly except that the interface gui is horrible
[23:58] <jacquesdupontd> how could i apply the kde theme to some application like this firefox (cause i imagine that it can happen on other apps)
[23:58] <maco> try arora!
[23:59] <maco> we discussed replacing konq with arora in 9.10
[23:59] <jacquesdupontd> nah but really i would prefer at least to know the solution then i'll try what you want i don't like to see a problem and to pass by another solution instead of resolving it
[23:59] <jacquesdupontd> i like to undersand
[23:59] <maco> im not quite sure how i got firefox to not look stupid
[23:59] <maco> i think it involved a lot of google