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^arky^Hi any see this warnings "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "atk-bridge": libatk-bridge.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"06:26
^arky^Is there a bug related to that GTK-warnings06:26
micahgidk ^arky^, have you searched yet?06:27
^arky^hi micahg , I did06:27
^arky^no results that match this particular warning in lucid yet06:28
^arky^is this transitional problem, trying to get to package maintainer06:28
^arky^view on this06:29
micahg^arky^: if you're running lynx, Ubuntu+1 is open again06:29
^arky^sorry micahg , didn't understand you06:29
diffraHi all, was wondering if i could get some help with bug 47385206:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 473852 in tsclient "Unable to add Terminal Server Client Panel Applet" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47385206:29
diffraIt's fixed upstream in debian -- what's the process to request that it get backported, or is it just assumed broken until lucid?06:30
micahgdiffra: do you have a link to the debian bug?06:30
micahg^arky^: if you're running lucid, the support nchannel #ubuntu+1 is open agai06:31
^arky^ah! I get it06:31
ubot4Debian bug 538035 in tsclient "tsclient: Applet is broken in 0.150-2" [Important,Fixed]06:32
micahgdiffra: how experienced are you?06:33
diffrain ubuntu bugs?  not terribly.  I'm a linux admin by trade though, so fairly experienced in most other things.06:34
micahgdiffra: if you can prepare the patch, it will get done a lot faster06:35
micahgdiffra: does the tsclient app still work ok?06:36
diffrathe app itself?  yeah.  The panel applet is the only thing that's broken.06:36
micahgdiffra: that's the procedure for getting an update to a current release06:38
diffraSo, if i'm understanding correctly, i'd need to supply the patch (is this different from the patch to the debian bug?  i'd assume not.)06:39
micahgdiffra: you'll also want to click the Nominate for Release if you'd like to see the fix in Karmic06:39
micahgit should be a pretty simple patch06:41
diffraSo, i'd need to first get it into Lucid though, per the SRU policy, no?  it still has the same broken version.06:41
micahgyes, the way to do that would be to request a sync if one doesn't exist06:42
micahgdiffra: there's a command line tool in ubuntu-dev-tools to request a sync06:43
micahgcall requestsync06:43
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LimCoreatop patch does not automatically rebuild kernel - it seems?10:00
ubot4Launchpad bug 134159 in atop "atop Kernel patch doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:01
LimCorethis is nice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile10:15
LimCore... but I have 0 interest in reading some geeky stuff when I just want atop to simly Just Work.10:16
micahgLimCore: then file a request for a feature enhancement10:16
LimCoremicahg: ok I just  did. Does it look fine?10:21
micahgin atop?10:21
LimCorethe problem is universall I guess,  but for example also in atop10:22
micahgwhat's the bug #?10:22
* LimCore_ makes joke about his ISP apparently upgrading to 9.1010:24
LimCore_micahg: as I linked 10 lines above10:25
LimCore_btw:   E: Unable to find a source package for linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.31-14-generic                when I follow that wiki  page10:25
LimCore_so, can you confirm installing atop's network counter is indeed buggy (because it doesnt Just Work)10:27
LimCore_anyway that wiki entry is outdated, doesnt work in 9.1010:28
micahgLimCore that bug was closed invalid 2 years ago10:31
micahgand there were instruction in there10:33
LimCore_and now, 2 years later, still it is hard to install atop patches.10:33
LimCore_this instructions (wiki page I linked above) fail even in first steps10:33
LimCore_E: Unable to find a source package for linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.31-14-generic10:33
micahgLimCore did you read the last post in that bug report before adding a comment?10:34
LimCore_ok maybe I missread the part of wiki about modules. hm10:34
LimCore_The one linking to now-not-existing ubuntu forum thread?  It was not all that helpfull10:35
micahgno, the part about filing a wishlist bug request for the functionality you need10:35
LimCore_new bug. well ok10:36
micahgno one ever filed it, hence it never got done10:36
LimCore_I even have shortcut to report new bugs in ubuntu10:36
LimCore_with 9.10, I think I should make a keyboard shortcut ;)10:37
micahgeveryone has a shortcut: ubuntu-bug package10:37
LimCore_typing this so many times a day?  super+f12 for the win10:37
micahgwe don't want random bugs filed against the ubuntu distro10:37
micahgor rather, would not like to encourage10:38
LimCore_I was going to fill it agains gentoo, but then they said they do not support ubuntu all that much10:38
LimCore_this bug in particullar is typicall ubunty related bug - related to ubuntu specyfic packaging/installing10:39
micahgI meant we prefer them filed against the package in question10:39
micahgnot that we don't want bugs filed10:39
LimCore_hehe I found a bug WHILE reporting a bug!10:39
LimCore_once I found a bug, while I was reporting a bug that I found while reporting a bug discovered when debugging bug in kmail10:40
LimCore_this is the atop wish: usr/share/doc/kernel-patch-atopcnt/README-kernelpatch.Debian   please confirm it10:42
LimCore_this is the atop wish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/atoppatch/+bug/487041   please confirm it10:42
ubot4Launchpad bug 487041 in atoppatch "kernel does not auto rebuild, nor does it help to do so" [Undecided,New]10:42
micahgI wishlisted it10:44
* micahg has to go to bed10:44
LimCore_wait wait theres more10:44
micahgLimCore_: ??10:46
LimCore_There is the bug (wish) I found while reporting the above bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/48704410:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 487044 in apport "does not offer to choose firefox profile / browser session" [Undecided,New]10:46
micahgI think that's a won't fix, you can set firefox to always prompt you for a profile10:47
LimCore_but it is already opened10:48
LimCore_I have 2 profiles running10:48
LimCore_in one I bash ubuntu in other gentoo ;)10:49
micahghmmm, I'm not sure you can open the same profile twice10:50
LimCore_maybe we just show a window like "We opened launchpad page in the browser - the last profile/window; You can also close not needed firefox profile and try again if needed" or something10:53
micahgok, off to sleep10:53
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MagicFabHas anyone hit this one ? Can you please assign importance ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/486646 Thank you!13:35
ubot4Launchpad bug 486646 in gstreamer0.10 "Totem won't play DVDs "you may not have permission to open this file" (clean install)" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:35
seb128MagicFab, there is a zillion bugs about dvd playing being buggy13:40
seb128MagicFab, bug #469603 for example13:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 469603 in gstreamer0.10 "totem will not play dvd movies or audio cd's since upgrade to karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46960313:41
seb128bug #46638913:42
ubot4Launchpad bug 466389 in gstreamer0.10 "totem hangs when try to play DVD" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46638913:42
MagicFabseb128, hanging is different13:49
seb128MagicFab, what about the first one?13:49
MagicFabseb128, and the first one would be a dup - I searched, couldn't find someting with enough resemblance to my issue13:49
seb128you're welcome13:50
MagicFabmine is a clean install so no, not a dup.13:50
seb128short story, dvd playing is known to be broken13:50
seb128we have a zillion on similar looking bugs13:50
seb128but nobody is working on dvd playing13:50
seb128especially not on libdvdcss, etc issue13:51
seb128since those can't be legaly distributed or be part of the install anyway13:51
MagicFabseb128, agreed, so Totem should at least fail completely/gracefully instead of locking up or proposing codecs that won't fix the issue.13:51
WeatherGodkinda of a dead monday, isn't it?15:38
WeatherGodany ideas what should be done with bug 487135?16:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 487135 in ubuntu "No Gimp in Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48713516:08
diffraWeatherGod: AFAIK this is by design16:08
WeatherGodyeah... and it is still in the repos and the CD.... just not installed by default16:08
WeatherGodthey are arguing that there isn't a suitable equivalent of MS Paint to fill the gap16:09
diffraIt's funny, I actually had a personal experience with this last night.16:10
diffraMy wife (longtime windows user, uses my ubuntu machine from time to time.) wanted to resize some images on a memory card.16:10
diffrawatching her struggle with gimp made me realize how good of a decision this was.16:10
WeatherGodyeah, I know... it is much easier to use convert from the command-line16:11
diffraI agree :-P16:11
WeatherGodbut, I really don't have that many issues with gimp... it really is a good program16:12
WeatherGodI do admit that there are some stumbling blocks sometimes16:12
diffraSure, it's just too complicated for a default image editor.16:12
WeatherGodI still get a little frustrated when I want to do a simple erase16:12
yofelhm, that's more something that should got to brainstorm or the devel-discuss ML16:12
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yofeland yes, GIMP is too complicated16:13
WeatherGodyofel... I agree16:13
WeatherGodthis isn't the right place for this16:13
WeatherGodalso, could somebody wishlist bug 487136?16:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 487136 in twinkle "Add a sound level meter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48713616:14
nperry!info twinkle16:44
WeatherGodhuh... wonder if the bot is broken or something?16:45
nperryTrying to find upstream info16:49
nperryNot sure if its the right email address to what google has given me.16:49
ubot4Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.16:51
mrandI guess you could enter the bug report in Debian, since that is upstream for us anyway, right?16:52
mrand(for twinkle)16:53
WeatherGodthe maintainer is listed as the Debian VoIP team16:53
WeatherGodand it is auto synced16:53
WeatherGodso, I am guessing that there really isn't anyone looking at these reports on launchpad16:54
nperryThere is a couple of bugs under package twinkle16:55
nperryBug # 14899316:55
nperryIs the oldest :s16:55
yofelbug 14899316:55
ubot4Launchpad bug 148993 in wengophone "VoIP application descriptions for similar packages completely different in K menu" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14899316:55
mrandWeatherGod: agreed16:56
WeatherGodand, it doesn't look like anybody has worked on these16:56
WeatherGodfor all we know, some of these have already been fixed16:56
nperryInvaild all and post if this bug isn't fixed in recent build mark as new?16:58
WeatherGodI would see if there is some way to set an upstream link16:59
WeatherGodor at least see if the Twinkle developers need to update contact info17:00
mrandJust changed two bugs to public in twinkle.  They are recent crashes that could/should probably be pushed upstream.17:00
WeatherGodany ideas for what more we can do for this guy?  bug 48487517:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 484875 in linux "Nvidia GPU overheating on Toshiba P100" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48487517:27
WeatherGodhe tried the absolute latest nvidia drivers and they still don't control his graphics card fan correctly17:27
micahgWeatherGod: is it CPU or GPU?17:31
micahguser seems to be confused17:31
micahgnot the op, I guess17:32
WeatherGodhe says that the CPU temp is stable, but the GPU temp rises while using Ubuntu17:32
WeatherGodah, Rakhmad?17:33
WeatherGodyeah, he isn't the op17:33
micahgwell, if it's the graphics drivers, linux isn't the right package17:33
micahgbut I don't know where the GPU is controlled17:33
micahghave you talked to #ubuntu-x and #ubuntu-kernel?17:33
WeatherGodright, but I wasn't sure if it was acpi related or not17:33
WeatherGodno, probably should go there next17:33
micahgyeah, try #ubuntu-x, see if the graphics drivers control the GPU17:34
micahgif so, then maybe an upstream nvidia bug is necessary, but they'll be able to advise you better WeatherGod17:34
WeatherGodmicahg, not a chatty group, but it looks like they wanted it filed against the nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 package, fy17:42
micahgright, that's what I was wondering17:42
micahgthat's the latest package in ubuntu17:42
WeatherGodheh, they are claiming it is a hardware issue.... dispite the report that it works while logged into Windows17:49
WeatherGodmicahg, the X people are now saying that it doesn't belong to the nvidia drivers, and passing me off to the kernel people18:15
micahgthat's why I suggested asking18:16
micahgit's not so clear :)18:16
WeatherGodand the kernel people have not said anything18:16
WeatherGodto anybody18:16
WeatherGodno, it isn't18:16
micahgwell, you have to be patient18:16
WeatherGodyeah, not quite like this group... that's for sure18:17
diffraThe kernel people are busy grooming their huge beards.18:17
WeatherGodI am working on mine... maybe one day I can be a kernel person18:17
micahgthey're very busy18:17
micahgit's a 30 person team18:17
micahgand they have 9k bugs to deal with18:17
WeatherGodwell, how many of those are the auto-generated ones?18:18
micahgbut 4k are open and 5k are new18:18
micahgstill a lot18:18
micahgthey have weekly bug days18:18
micahgthey certainly can use the help if that's your inclination18:18
WeatherGoddon't know a thing about kernel programing18:18
micahgalso, the kernel is a lot of things in one18:19
WeatherGodI am a data cruncher18:19
micahgvs the packages that are usually individualized18:19
WeatherGodyeah... and a lot of bugs that come in do seem to get listed as kernel, even if it shouldn't18:19
nperryCould somone just look over bug #487221 please, not to sure what other information would be needed18:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 487221 in sabnzbdplus "[Lucid] Unable to open sabnzbdplus - requires Python module Cheetah 2.0rc7 or highe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48722118:22
WeatherGodnperry, I think that you have given all there is to give18:30
nperryJust gotta be sure :)18:34
hggdhSo. How's life? Been disconnected for 2 days ;-)19:09
WeatherGodwhat, me?19:10
hggdhno, poor mesself19:10
WeatherGodyeah... wanted to catch up on some other stuff19:10
WeatherGodthe initial rush of bug reports from karmic release has slowed down, as well19:11
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bcurtiswx_bdmurray, ogasawara: could you extend my bug control membership please?20:00
bdmurraybcurtiswx_: done20:03
bcurtiswx_bdmurray : thanks :D20:04
WeatherGodmicahg: fyi, just got back from the kernel people... the answer to what controls the gpu fan is...20:30
WeatherGodit depends20:30
WeatherGodwhen there is kernel modesetting, it is the kernel20:30
micahgWeatherGod: nice, did they tell you what to do with the bug though20:30
WeatherGodwhen it isn't, then it is the driver20:30
WeatherGodmicahg, since this is the binary nvidia driver... the only thing we can do is report it to nvidia and hope20:31
WeatherGodlots and lots of hope20:31
micahgWeatherGod: ok20:31
WeatherGodalso, kernel modesetting is not used when using the binary drivers20:31
WeatherGodin the meantime, I have already asked the OR to try the open/free drivers to see if the problem goes away20:32
WeatherGodI am gonna see if there is some way to report this to nvidia20:32
WeatherGodwhoot! there is a way to report bugs and send them useful info20:36
WeatherGodhey, on a completely different note, can anyone tell me if there is a standard operating procedure for fixing a foobared upgrade?20:44
WeatherGodbug 48504320:45
ubot4Launchpad bug 485043 in update-manager "Upgade from 8.04 to 9.10 failed - aborted - system almost unusable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48504320:45
WeatherGodI don't want to give the guy bad tips20:45
mrandWeatherGod: poor guy. I wonder if the connection problem ("serve may be overloaded".  Then "doUpdate() failed completely") contributed in any way to the "no script in the new version of the package" error, or if that is truly a packaging error (hard to believe... others would likely run into it).  Even still, looks like some poor error handling (by apport?)21:07
WeatherGodapport?  why apport?21:08
mrandWeatherGod: oops, my bad.  My eyes were crossing looking at a long line.  I thought it was mentioning apport on a line with ERROR in it.21:12
Riottasorry for stupid question but21:28
Riottaor maybe nvm21:28
Riottaor, if the bug is linked with upstream bug and traged, and the upstream bug has got fix released, how long it take to fix being applied withing ubuntu itself21:29
Riottait depends upon many factors or is there some standard answer for this?21:30
WeatherGodwell, if nothing special happens, the fix will occur when then upstream packages are synced with the ubuntu repos21:31
WeatherGodhowever, I would imagine that the package maintainer for ubuntu could speed things up, if he wants21:32
micahgRiotta: you asking about the mouse?21:36
micahgRiotta: that would be a question for #ubuntu-x, I don't know what their procedure is for backports of patches21:40
micahgRiotta: you might want to nominate for karmic is well if you'd like the patch to land there21:40
micahg*as well21:40
Riottayeah I'm "speaking" with them21:40
Riottathanks for the hint21:40
awardleCould someone set bug 487299 to a wishlist22:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 487299 in firefox-3.0 "support for: *.celt, *.dbk, *.flac, *.html, *.icecast, *.odt, *.ogg, *.ogv, *.png, *.ps, *.spexx, *.tex, *.texi, *.theora, *.txt, *.xspf, not any support to: *.aspx, *.au, *.avi, *.bmp, *.doc, *.flv, *.gif, *.h.263, *.h.264, *.htm, *.jpeg, *.mpeg, *.mpg, *.pdf, *.php that is higher to version 3.0, *.ppt, *.reaplayer, *.rtf, *.swf, *.wmv, *.xls....." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48729922:13
micahgawardle: done22:16
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kklimondais there some well known tag for translation bugs?22:31
kklimondamicahg: is it widely used?22:33
micahgno, sorry, that's why I said oops22:33
micahgtyped before I thought22:33
micahgkklimonda: you might want to check out the ubuntu-translations project22:35
micahgtranslation bugs should have a task there if we handle the translation22:35
kklimondamicahg: well, translation is done in LP but it's upstream work22:36
bdmurrayits documented at ReportingBugs22:38
bdmurrayUbuntu Translations (ubuntu-translations) project22:39
micahgRiotta: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates22:42
Riottano I didn't saw that22:43
Riottamust read22:43
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