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| astechgeek | I've read through the Testing ISO wiki I tried to subscribe to the current test images but they aren't showing up in My Subscriptions. Am I looking in the wrong place? | 04:52 |
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| kcj1993 | what need testing? | 06:08 |
| kcj1993 | hello? is there anyone in here? | 08:35 |
| davmor3 | Hello everybody | 12:00 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: howdy | 12:02 |
| davmor3 | czajkowski: hello you back in uk timezone mode now? | 12:02 |
| czajkowski | I'm in my Irish timezone :) | 12:03 |
| davmor3 | you sure you're not in gmt? | 12:05 |
| czajkowski | Dublin | 12:12 |
| czajkowski | same thing | 12:12 |
| davmor3 | czajkowski: and greenwich is where again :P | 12:13 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: I'm in Irish timezone, same as UK., how's that | 12:13 |
| davmor3 | :) | 12:13 |
| davmor3 | that'll do | 12:14 |
| davmor3 | so is your head back in a real timezone anyway | 12:15 |
| czajkowski | more or less | 12:16 |
| davmor3 | czajkowski: good | 12:16 |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| davmor3 | morning fader_ | 13:52 |
| fader_ | davmor3: Howdy. Looks like you got an upgrade! | 13:52 |
| * fader_ hopes this version is better than the last. :) | 13:52 | |
| fader_ | davmor3: How's life? | 13:53 |
| davmor3 | back is a bit better but still hurting | 13:55 |
| davmor3 | meds are still knocking me about a bit | 13:55 |
| fader_ | :/ | 13:55 |
| fader_ | You've gotta get fixed up so I can start abusing you again! | 13:56 |
| davmor3 | you can abuse me but I'll just ignore you :P | 13:57 |
| cr3 | davmor3: that defeats the purpose of abusing you though | 14:04 |
| cr3 | ... or abusing anyone for that matter | 14:05 |
| davmor3 | cr3: yeah but it makes fader_ feel useful :) | 14:05 |
| fader_ | I need *something* to feel useful about! | 14:05 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: you run gwibber? | 14:06 |
| davmor3 | czajkowski: yeap | 14:07 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: can you see if you have any similar issues Launchpad bug 487064 | 14:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 487064 in gwibber "Message pane repaints frequently and resets the scroll status, losing reading position" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/487064 | 14:08 |
| davmor3 | yes I noticed that but only if your in the top third of the list try scrolling about 2/3's of the way down and it stays there I think | 14:09 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: hmm , add that to ticket? | 14:11 |
| davmor3 | try it out first makes sure it does | 14:11 |
| moustafa1 | good morning, cr3, fader_, davmor3 | 14:14 |
| davmor3 | morning moustafa1 | 14:14 |
| === moustafa1 is now known as moustafaC | ||
| fader_ | Hey dude | 14:15 |
| davmor3 | fader_: what? | 14:16 |
| fader_ | davmor3: Wrong dude :P | 14:16 |
| davmor3 | fader_: you two timer you said I was the only dude in your life :'( | 14:17 |
| moustafaC | dudes, chillax | 14:17 |
| moustafaC | we're all each other's only dudes in each other's lives | 14:18 |
| davmor3 | moustafaC: we're just playing :) | 14:19 |
| moustafaC | we're free and open dudes | 14:19 |
| moustafaC | davmor3, I'm just adding | 14:20 |
| fagan | thanks marjo for accepting me into the qa team group :) | 15:09 |
| davmor3 | so guys how did uds go did you get some ideas? | 15:11 |
| * czajkowski has a long to do list | 15:11 | |
| fagan | davmor3: yep loads of them | 15:11 |
| davmor3 | cool | 15:12 |
| fagan | davmor3: I loved the bug day ideas | 15:13 |
| davmor3 | don't we already have that? | 15:13 |
| fagan | But to make them better | 15:13 |
| marjo | fagan: welcome! | 15:13 |
| fagan | and to advertise them more | 15:13 |
| fagan | :D | 15:13 |
| davmor3 | :D | 15:14 |
| czajkowski | get moer community involvement | 15:15 |
| fagan | czajkowski: thats the idea | 15:16 |
| fagan | having small bug days once a week and big bug days once a month | 15:17 |
| fagan | So we can get to packages we may not have got to before | 15:17 |
| davmor3 | cool | 15:18 |
| czajkowski | davmor3: great email re fspot | 15:19 |
| davmor3 | well | 15:19 |
| davmor3 | I had a look at them after seeing the video about default apps | 15:21 |
| czajkowski | nods | 15:23 |
| fagan | We need to test pitivi a lot when its put it | 15:24 |
| fagan | *in | 15:24 |
| davmor3 | need to find the time to do lots of stuff and test | 15:27 |
| fagan | davmor3: well it runs and it makes video using ogg correctly | 15:27 |
| fagan | but doing harder stuff is what we need | 15:27 |
| * fagan just made a bug against checkbox https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/487143 | 15:28 | |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 487143 in checkbox "More specific hardware questions shouldnt be asked" [Undecided,New] | 15:28 |
| davmor3 | fagan: Yes demands time though | 15:30 |
| fagan | yep | 15:30 |
| * fagan thinks the main functionality is fine for pitivi | 15:31 | |
| fagan | (except no one can pronounce its name) | 15:32 |
| davmor3 | battery dying | 15:32 |
| davmor3 | why not ask the guy that made it | 15:32 |
| davmor3 | to video himself saying it in a linus linux stylee | 15:33 |
| fagan | ha | 15:36 |
| fagan | but im very impressed with it and collabora have put a lot of work into it | 15:37 |
| fagan | It even converts video too | 15:38 |
| astechgeek | Do you use the same test cases for Lucid as Karmic? | 16:12 |
| cr3 | moustafaC: by the way, I just pushed changes to the message branch relating to checkbox.log | 16:14 |
| cr3 | fagan: MySQL upgrade testing: http://www.elabs7.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=ax0v,j91v,33o,chzk,la7g,b3mp,9gne | 16:14 |
| cr3 | fader_: ^^^ | 16:14 |
| cr3 | darn autocomplete... | 16:14 |
| fader_ | astechgeek: At the moment yes; if you notice anything that isn't correct please let us know :) | 16:14 |
| fagan | hah | 16:15 |
| cr3 | fagan: I hope it'll turn out to be interesting for you too :) | 16:15 |
| * fagan looks | 16:15 | |
| fagan | cr3: nope :) | 16:16 |
| fader_ | cr3: Interesting. And probably largely automatable :) | 16:16 |
| fader_ | (1 package down, 9999999 to go ;) ) | 16:18 |
| moustafaC | cr3: branch merged :) | 16:19 |
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| === fader_ is now known as fader|lunch | ||
| gormux | hello | 18:40 |
| gormux | is there a repository with KDE 4.4 ? | 18:40 |
| gormux | or do I have to compile it myself ? | 18:40 |
| sbeattie | gormux: you might have better luck asking in #kubuntu. | 18:41 |
| gormux | ah, yeah, not a bad idea :) | 18:43 |
| === fader|lunch is now known as fader_ | ||
| fagan | I just found ubuntu-qa-tools in synaptic whats in it? | 19:08 |
| * fagan investigates | 19:14 | |
| fagan | Ah I didnt see the post on blog.qa.ubuntu.com | 19:18 |
| fader_ | fagan: It's a collection of tools useful for testing Ubuntu. I don't use all of them, but there's a script in there to keep ISOs rsync'd that is quite useful at least | 19:28 |
| fagan | fader_: I didnt know I just download the isos manually | 19:28 |
| fagan | ill fiddle about with the qa tools and bug hugger and see if I can triage bugs faster | 19:29 |
| * fagan is going to check on a few bugs that havent had activity in a while | 19:31 | |
| sbeattie | fagan: unfortunately, the ubuntu-qa-tools package is out of date with respect to the bzr branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ubuntu-qa-tools/master | 19:32 |
| fagan | Im on lucid could someone upload a more up to date version? | 19:32 |
| moustafaC | Is Lucid even remotely available? | 19:34 |
| fagan | moustafaC: im using it so yes its available | 19:34 |
| fagan | I had to add the sources manually though | 19:35 |
| sbeattie | moustafaC: sure; it's just not much of a deviation from karmic at the moment. | 19:35 |
| astechgeek | installing the alternate-amd64.iso went well | 19:35 |
| fagan | is checkbox still using libglade? | 19:35 |
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| moustafaC | sbeatty, fagan : I see. To me, a new distro isn't a new distro until there are enough changes to make it so. | 19:36 |
| fagan | Well I like testing early | 19:36 |
| fagan | plus the new features for lucid will arrive before alpha 2 | 19:37 |
| fagan | it would be great if launchpad's api was faster | 19:46 |
| fagan | to contribute to checkbox do I have to sign the canonical contributor agreement ? | 19:54 |
| fader_ | fagan: My guess is yes, but cr3 might be in a better position to answer this. | 19:56 |
| fader_ | cr3: ^^ | 19:56 |
| cr3 | fagan: any significant amount of code, I would imagine so | 19:56 |
| fagan | cr3: hmmm ill google it | 19:57 |
| cr3 | fagan: yes, libglade is still being used. since the interface is rather simple, and I would like to keep it that way as much as possible, I would like to consider using straight gtk instead of having to maintain two branches: one for glade and another for gtkbuilder | 19:58 |
| fagan | Well I wouldnt think it would be a hell of amount of changes ill have a look at the code and see | 19:59 |
| cr3 | fagan: there's already a contribution for gtkbuilder | 19:59 |
| fagan | Oh cool | 20:00 |
| cr3 | fagan: the problem is that maintaining two branches would actually be a "hell of amount" more overhead than the changes themselves | 20:00 |
| fagan | How so? | 20:00 |
| cr3 | I still want new versions of checkbox to be installable on all supported versions | 20:01 |
| cr3 | ... of ubuntu | 20:01 |
| fagan | checkbox isnt listed under the contributor agreement | 20:01 |
| cr3 | so, if everytime I add a new test I need to update two branches, which is no fun | 20:01 |
| fagan | cr3: well im sure the desktop team would like not to be shipping deprecated librarys so maybe try ship the gtkbuilder for lucid? | 20:03 |
| cr3 | fagan: "I would like to consider using straight gtk instead" | 20:03 |
| cr3 | are you saying that's not possible? | 20:03 |
| fagan | Ah it would | 20:04 |
| cr3 | fagan: I'm not saying it's necessarily possible though :) I'm mostly curious to explore that possibility before settling on any particular technical solution | 20:05 |
| cr3 | where "possible" should read: reasonable or feasible or sane :) | 20:05 |
| fagan | well its easier just to use gtkbuilder but just using pygtk would be ok too | 20:05 |
| fagan | pygtk just takes a little longer | 20:05 |
| cr3 | I think there's potential considering the interface is intended to remain rather straightforward | 20:06 |
| cr3 | for example, I don't foresee needing menus and so forth | 20:06 |
| fagan | True | 20:06 |
| cr3 | fagan: also, I don't think clutter has something like gtkbuilder nor glade, so perhaps that extrapolating the current code into straight gtk could help create another interface using clutk | 20:09 |
| cr3 | ... for unr | 20:09 |
| cr3 | a qt interface is already being worked on, so this release will probably see custom interfaces for kde and unr | 20:10 |
| fagan | well we dont need to make a clutter interface | 20:10 |
| fagan | I dont think any projects have one yet | 20:10 |
| cr3 | fagan: it would be cute for people to have their unr usb image and run checkbox before buying a netbook :) | 20:10 |
| fader_ | IIRC Clutter relies on OpenGL, which would make it a poor choice for a [primary] checkbox UI | 20:11 |
| cr3 | if we're the first, maybe we'll get more attention than the others :) | 20:11 |
| cr3 | fader_: ubuntu would still rely on checkbox-gtk, just unr which already relies on opengl could provide checkbox-clutter | 20:11 |
| fagan | clutter is very complicated | 20:11 |
| fagan | for coding I mean | 20:12 |
| cr3 | fagan: neil patel informed me that he has a library that makes programming clutter almost like gtk | 20:12 |
| fader_ | cr3: I think UNR^HE is dropping the reliance on Clutter, as some ARM systems will not have OpenGL support | 20:12 |
| cr3 | I think it's "clutk", mentionned above | 20:12 |
| fagan | ah that would be interesting | 20:12 |
| cr3 | fader_: I seriously doubt the launcher will be rewritten without clutter | 20:13 |
| cr3 | fagan: that library is basically what got me interested, otherwise I would totally agree with you and I wouldn't bother with clutter myself | 20:13 |
| fagan | we shouldnt switch to it before gnome 3 though | 20:14 |
| fader_ | cr3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-lucid-une-2d-launcher | 20:17 |
| fagan | ARM should be able to use OpenGL | 20:20 |
| cr3 | fader_: I wouldn't be surprised that clutk is the first step towards creating an abstraction layer where the same launcher code can be used wither with clutter or gtk | 20:20 |
| cr3 | if neil were around, we could ask directly :) | 20:21 |
| fader_ | cr3: Yeah, no idea about the technical implementation; just reporting what I heard at UDS | 20:21 |
| fagan | fader_: hmmm did we meet at the UDS? | 20:21 |
| * fagan is bad with names | 20:21 | |
| cr3 | it would be rather unfortunate if this requirement implicated a significant rewrite :( | 20:21 |
| fader_ | fagan: Yeah, me too. Got a launchpad page with a pic or anything? | 20:22 |
| fader_ | Mine no longer looks much like me :) | 20:22 |
| fader_ | cr3: You're volunteering, right? :D | 20:22 |
| * fagan has enough on his plade | 20:23 | |
| fagan | *plate | 20:23 |
| cr3 | fader_: dude, I no longer see my picture on launchpad.net/~cr3 | 20:23 |
| cr3 | fader_: yeah, I'm kinda volunterring mostly out of curiosity | 20:23 |
| fagan | Mine still looks like me | 20:23 |
| fader_ | cr3: Huh, mine seems to have vanished as well | 20:24 |
| fagan | Oh they removed the big pictures | 20:24 |
| fader_ | fagan: What's your LP ID? | 20:24 |
| cr3 | fagan: yeah, that's weird | 20:24 |
| fagan | launchpad.net/~shanepatrickfagan | 20:25 |
| fagan | I wish I could shorten it but I have a ppa | 20:25 |
| * fagan needs to go | 20:25 | |
| fader_ | fagan: I don't see your pic either | 20:25 |
| fader_ | :( | 20:25 |
| fagan | later guys and gals | 20:26 |
| * fader_ waves. | 20:26 | |
| cr3 | I suspect we're just too ugly | 20:27 |
| fader_ | Indeed | 20:27 |
| * fader_ is an unperson. | 20:28 | |
| fader_ | Doubleplusungood! | 20:28 |
| moustafaC | I blame the 1337 | 20:33 |
| moustafaC | cr3, fader_ : I bid you good evening | 22:08 |
| fader_ | moustafaC: Adios! | 22:08 |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|away | ||
| === darizzle is now known as drizzle | ||
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