linxeh | hi there - is there a keyboard shortcut to open the applications menu ? | 00:37 |
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keppi | linxeh: [ctrl]+[esc] ? | 02:42 |
Sahkolihaa | Would anyone know why, when starting the system monitor, it and dbus-daemon start using high CPU usage? | 06:58 |
Sysi | it's heavy program | 06:59 |
Sysi | idk about dbus-daemon | 06:59 |
Sahkolihaa | They shouldn't eat an entire core on an AMD X2 4800+ though. | 07:00 |
Sahkolihaa | I've filed it as a bug, so let's see what happens from there. | 07:30 |
jar | Why isn't Xubuntu using xfce4's system monitor anyways? It's simpler but gets the job done. | 07:31 |
Sahkolihaa | I was actually wondering why it was using gnome's and if it had it's own. | 07:32 |
Sahkolihaa | Can xfce4's be installed? | 07:32 |
jar | Yes, it's in apt. | 07:32 |
jar | I think. | 07:32 |
jar | http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager | 07:32 |
Sahkolihaa | Ah, it is. | 07:32 |
Sahkolihaa | Yeah, just found it. | 07:32 |
* Sahkolihaa installs. | 07:32 | |
Sahkolihaa | Heh, that works fine. No high CPU usage. | 07:33 |
Sahkolihaa | So gnome-system-monitor is the problem. | 07:33 |
jar | Sahkolihaa, It's always been an issue. | 07:33 |
jar | It's a very poorly coded app. | 07:33 |
jar | I'm pretty disappointed Xubuntu ships with it, honestly. | 07:34 |
Sahkolihaa | Yeah, Xfce's seems much nicer. | 07:34 |
jar | I need to subscribe to the mailing list so I can voice my opinion on things.. | 07:35 |
jar | Sahkolihaa, sudo apt-get purge gnome-system-monitor | 07:37 |
jar | and everything runs faster. | 07:37 |
jar | :) | 07:37 |
Sahkolihaa | Heh. | 07:37 |
jar | sorry | 07:37 |
jar | bad pun | 07:37 |
Sahkolihaa | Really does make no sense to include the gnome system monitor when Xfce's is light weight - the whole idea behind Xubuntu... | 07:39 |
* jar nod | 07:40 | |
Sahkolihaa | The gnome part is also being retarded. | 07:41 |
Sahkolihaa | Since it doesn't seem to read Xfce's default browser setting, so it starts Firefox and not Chromium. | 07:41 |
jar | Yeah.. one thing I don't like is that XFce4 Taskmanager puts its menu entry in two categories. | 07:41 |
Sahkolihaa | I just fixed that by editing xfce4-taskmanager.desktop. :P | 07:42 |
jar | in /usr/share/applications ? | 07:42 |
Sahkolihaa | Yup. | 07:42 |
jar | Great minds. | 07:42 |
jar | :) | 07:42 |
Sahkolihaa | Also re-named it to 'Taskmanager' to follow everything else. | 07:42 |
Sahkolihaa | Heh. | 07:42 |
jar | :) | 07:42 |
jar | I was going to do that too. | 07:43 |
jar | Sahkolihaa, Perhaps if we start enough of a fuss we could get that done by Lucid Lynx | 07:43 |
jar | Sahkolihaa, Are you missing the category icons in Add/Remove too? | 07:45 |
jar | I HATE when apps double dip on the menu. | 07:45 |
Sahkolihaa | Yeah, I'm missing all the icons there too. | 07:49 |
jar | That's 3 out of 3. | 07:50 |
jar | :\ | 07:50 |
Sahkolihaa | Bleh, Thunderbird thinks Firefox is the default browser. | 07:53 |
jar | =[ | 07:54 |
jar | I use Evolution | 07:54 |
Balsaq | yello syrius | 08:14 |
syrius | hi | 08:15 |
syrius | do I know you? | 08:15 |
Balsaq | maybe not, thought we spoke a few days ago | 08:22 |
Balsaq | may have been Sysi... | 08:22 |
Balsaq | oh well, i am Balsaq, from eastern USA! | 08:23 |
Balsaq | it is amazing the difference in this channel as compared to ubuntu. i have both and too me xubuntu is far superior. yet it seems waaayyy more people choose ubuntu. | 08:27 |
Sysi | people have different opinions | 08:29 |
Sysi | i may need to fix highlights some day | 08:29 |
Balsaq | sysi are you from finland? | 08:37 |
Sysi | yes | 08:38 |
Balsaq | it was you then! | 08:38 |
Sysi | ohai! :D | 08:38 |
Balsaq | what highlight can you fix | 08:38 |
Sysi | i haven't set anything | 08:39 |
Sysi | when i set, i ned to start using screen_away | 08:39 |
Sysi | ans then it's same to get new theme | 08:39 |
Sysi | andandandand... | 08:40 |
Sysi | exellent theory :) | 08:40 |
_Pete_ | Balsaq: for some reason I like to stay here still I dont anymore use xubuntu | 08:40 |
_Pete_ | it was kind of temporary solution when got pissed of from kde4 | 08:41 |
_Pete_ | but 9.10 +kde3 works fine | 08:41 |
Sysi | i need to ude kdm for xdmcp, that means kde would be better :G | 08:42 |
_Pete_ | kde4 totally suxx | 08:42 |
_Pete_ | imo | 08:42 |
Sysi | not a lot more that old | 08:43 |
_Pete_ | luckily kde3 is still developed and for me it's superior | 08:43 |
Sysi | i have to use it at school | 08:44 |
Balsaq | at work today i noticed they were running solaris in one of the labs...looked very nice-professional | 08:46 |
_Pete_ | Balsaq: was that using traditional sun X ? | 09:04 |
Balsaq | didn't see sun X on the desktop...will look closer today when i go back in there... | 09:14 |
knome | Sysi, i don't use screen_away but my own script which autounaways me after n minutes | 09:33 |
knome | Sysi, i mean, autoaways me. | 09:34 |
knome | Sysi, also autoUNaways me after n messages to a network | 09:34 |
MaxFrames | hello | 11:32 |
knome | !hi | MaxFrames | 11:32 |
ubottu | MaxFrames: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 11:32 |
MaxFrames | I booted today and kaboom... the weather update plugin is not working anymore :( | 11:32 |
knome | which way not working? | 11:33 |
MaxFrames | question mark on the panel icon and "unable to update meteo data" message, it seems that the location is not set ("-") | 11:33 |
knome | MaxFrames, have you tried to remove and readd the applet? | 11:34 |
MaxFrames | not yet | 11:34 |
MaxFrames | today it worked. then I installed some updates (nvidia drivers) via update manager. I rebooted because the system was acting strange after the update (mouse and keyboard acting up). after the reboot, mouse and keyboard OK but weather applet gone. | 11:35 |
vashitn | any body here :) | 11:43 |
knome | probably | 11:43 |
knome | :d | 11:43 |
vashitn | does xubuntu boots faster than ubuntu? | 11:44 |
knome | should be no difference before starting the DE, but yes, Xfce should boot faster than GNOME | 11:44 |
vashitn | hmm yeah but when itboots luches the DE too | 11:46 |
MaxFrames | removed and readded the weather panel => no change | 11:46 |
vashitn | so if xfce is smaller less things to boot | 11:46 |
knome | MaxFrames, have you checked whether the service where the applet downloads the data, works? | 11:46 |
vashitn | MaxFrames what is your problem with the weather | 11:46 |
knome | vashitn, if you are looking the thing b&w, yes that's correct | 11:47 |
MaxFrames | my problem with the weather is that it's lousy. my problem with the weather update applet is that it doesn't work anymore :D | 11:47 |
MaxFrames | knome: how can I check if the service works? | 11:48 |
vashitn | MaxFrames this may be a stupid question :D but did you set it :D | 11:48 |
knome | MaxFrames, try to load their website? | 11:48 |
MaxFrames | vashitn: it's not necessary. It finds your location automatically based on your IP address. | 11:48 |
MaxFrames | knome: I don't know the URL | 11:48 |
vashitn | its based on yahooweather?? | 11:49 |
knome | MaxFrames, maybe you should wait a bit. it might be the service that is not actually working. i don't know what service it uses and i'm not home right now so i can't check | 11:49 |
MaxFrames | perhaps if another user would add the applet, we could rule out that | 11:49 |
knome | possibly, but that's not 100% sure way | 11:50 |
MaxFrames | what's 100% sure is that it was working, I rebooted, it's not working | 11:50 |
MaxFrames | between state a) and state b) is a mere 2 minutes | 11:50 |
MaxFrames | oh, found the url: xoap.weather.com | 11:50 |
knome | i'm sorry to hear that but i don't know what might have caused that. | 11:51 |
vashitn | try preferences on the appl and manualy add your town :) | 11:51 |
MaxFrames | the website is up | 11:51 |
knome | MaxFrames, then something is probably broken in your applet or its data. | 11:51 |
vashitn | knome can you put widgets on xfce? | 11:51 |
knome | MaxFrames, can you reset the city you d/l data for? | 11:51 |
MaxFrames | I can retrieve my town data from the website. the problem is the applet. dunno what screwed it | 11:52 |
knome | vashitn, what do you mean by "widgets" | 11:52 |
vashitn | like on kde weather widget :) | 11:52 |
knome | MaxFrames, look for the .* (probably .config) folders in your home, and seek for something related to the applet. removing that should probably make it work again | 11:52 |
knome | vashitn, no, you can't load kde widgets. | 11:53 |
knome | vashitn, well, at least without running loads of kde stuff, which would mean you probably should rather boot to kde | 11:53 |
vashitn | MaxFrames try other weather appl i am sure there are more | 11:53 |
vashitn | seek at add/remove | 11:53 |
vashitn | or what ever its called these days :) | 11:54 |
MaxFrames | I'm rueing the day I upgraded to karmic | 11:54 |
knome | vashitn, i'd rather know what's wrong with that applet, since it's probably the applet most users are using | 11:54 |
MaxFrames | before, all was perfect. now... I've already lost the screensavers and the weather applet, and the logon process is slower | 11:54 |
vashitn | yeah knome you are right but maybe its something that he did or some update | 11:55 |
MaxFrames | and who knows what else will stop working for no apparent reason tomorrow | 11:55 |
knome | MaxFrames, karmic brought a lot of changes and we hope we can make all of that better in lucid. | 11:55 |
knome | MaxFrames, probably not a lot stuff, haven't heard anybody's weather applet breaking or anything like that | 11:55 |
MaxFrames | I didn't do anything at all. I just installed the updates that the update manager was suggesting (nvidia packages) and that's all | 11:55 |
knome | MaxFrames, it's probably just you. | 11:55 |
MaxFrames | me how? all I did tomorrow with xubuntu was installing those nvidia updates. and reboot. I didn't even use the computer apart from that | 11:56 |
vashitn | MaxFrames try the cleaning program i think there is one | 11:56 |
knome | MaxFrames, me as in your computer, your set of installed applications, your configuration | 11:56 |
vashitn | PC personal computer | 11:57 |
vashitn | :D | 11:57 |
knome | i have to go now | 11:57 |
knome | i hope someone will be able to help you, MaxFrames | 11:57 |
knome | have a nice day | 11:57 |
vashitn | cheers | 11:57 |
MaxFrames | bye | 12:02 |
MaxFrames | mm, it's the IP address-to-location bit that's not working anymore | 12:05 |
MaxFrames | the applet is working now by manually specifying my current location | 12:05 |
MaxFrames | (not so good on a laptop though) | 12:05 |
MaxFrames | "the screensaver bug still stands" :D though some kind soul finally flagged it as "security issue" | 12:05 |
Balsaq | i'd just install 9.04 if i were you | 12:09 |
Balsaq | too me it was perfect | 12:09 |
MaxFrames | is it possible to downgrade? | 12:09 |
Balsaq | well if not...delete | 12:09 |
Balsaq | and reinstall 904 | 12:09 |
MaxFrames | no, I'll live with the new logon screen which obliges me to click on "logon" and wait before I can type the credentials, and hope for a fix for the screensaver | 12:11 |
Balsaq | ok | 12:11 |
MaxFrames | I simply don't have the nerve to go through backup, format, reinstall, restore | 12:11 |
Duskao | hey guys, I just installed xubuntu 9.10 and my second HD (internal) isn't showing up. | 12:12 |
Duskao | ... | 12:13 |
MaxFrames | ata? sata? | 12:13 |
Duskao | sata | 12:13 |
MaxFrames | both? | 12:14 |
Duskao | yep | 12:14 |
MaxFrames | dumb question: checked the connections? | 12:14 |
Duskao | it's all good. They work fine. Was fine with Ubuntu, moonos, mint... list goes on. | 12:14 |
MaxFrames | and if you boot a live 9.04 it shows up, right? | 12:15 |
Duskao | negatory | 12:15 |
Duskao | running 9.10 actually, but it's the same with 9.04 | 12:15 |
Duskao | had the same issue when i installed 9.04 ages ago. | 12:15 |
Duskao | Xubuntu I mean. | 12:16 |
MaxFrames | it was fine with ubuntu.. which version of ubuntu? | 12:16 |
Duskao | 8.10,9.04,9.10 | 12:16 |
MaxFrames | so it's xfce related? | 12:16 |
Duskao | seems to be, but with mint 7 XFCE there is no issue lol | 12:16 |
Duskao | mental eh? | 12:16 |
Duskao | but I prefer the real *buntu's | 12:17 |
MaxFrames | I'm afraid I dunno what to suggest... have you browsed launchpad yet to see if it's documented? | 12:17 |
Duskao | nope, but I'll deal with this tomorrow. I gotta get some sleep. Haven't slept yet tonight. Take it easy. | 12:18 |
Duskao | worst case scenario, I go back to Ubuntu :D | 12:18 |
Duskao | Later. | 12:18 |
MaxFrames | I hear you. I haven't slept much myself | 12:18 |
cedron | i lost the task pane... | 13:25 |
cedron | what happened? | 13:25 |
Sahkolihaa | And now that I'm back from college, gnome-system-monitor has now been removed. | 13:28 |
Sahkolihaa | Figured out it was my portable Samsung music player causing it to eat an entire core. Pretty stupid. :/ | 13:28 |
uberspaced | is xubuntu supposed to be the light weight ubuntu? | 14:05 |
uberspaced | let's just say I have an old laptop with 128 mb of ram | 14:05 |
uberspaced | and I don't need a fancy shmancy gdm or gnome | 14:05 |
uberspaced | I just want to read stuff on it | 14:05 |
uberspaced | what I usually do is install ubuntu and then something like fvwm | 14:06 |
Sysi | lubuntu or crunchbang is better | 14:06 |
uberspaced | lubuntu? | 14:06 |
uberspaced | okie dokie. | 14:06 |
Sysi | with lxde | 14:06 |
Sysi | pretty and lightweight | 14:06 |
Sysi | xubuntu is quite bloated these days :\ | 14:06 |
uberspaced | ha. | 14:06 |
uberspaced | ok, so, if I'm doing a net install of 9.10, will lubuntu show up there? | 14:07 |
uberspaced | OR | 14:07 |
uberspaced | should I install a basic server | 14:07 |
uberspaced | and then apt-get install lubuntu (?) ? | 14:07 |
Sysi | hmm, can't remember if it was official yet | 14:07 |
uberspaced | well, you gave me some things to look at. | 14:09 |
Sysi | !lxde | 14:09 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about lxde | 14:09 |
uberspaced | maybe if I install lxde, ubuntu server and fvwm I'll be OK. | 14:09 |
TheSheep | !info lxde | 14:09 |
ubottu | lxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB | 14:10 |
ablomen | uberspaced, one note, ubuntu server installs a different kernel.. | 14:10 |
uberspaced | one that probably doesn't favor real time processes like X as much, eh? | 14:10 |
uberspaced | I'm probably not going to get _that_ intense with X | 14:10 |
uberspaced | just like a PDF or something. | 14:10 |
ablomen | uberspaced, well if you dont have a lot of memory... | 14:10 |
uberspaced | which I don't have | 14:10 |
ablomen | i think you might want to get a more optimised kernel | 14:11 |
uberspaced | aside from one that I'd have to compile myself, which one would you recommend? | 14:11 |
ablomen | ehm not sure, maybe the generic is already better for laptop usage? | 14:12 |
uberspaced | prolly. | 14:12 |
ablomen | im just saying because i know i'v had problems with it some time ago | 14:12 |
uberspaced | I'll just stick with server and see if X works. | 14:12 |
ablomen | took me a while to figure out it was the server kernel | 14:12 |
uberspaced | I don't need fast X. just working X. | 14:12 |
ablomen | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel << heres an overview btw | 14:13 |
Sahkolihaa | lxde reminds me too much of KDE and Windows. | 14:15 |
Sysi | :D | 14:15 |
Sahkolihaa | I already switched out the gnome-system-monitor for Xfce's taskmanager. | 14:16 |
uberspaced | sweet. preemption is turned off in server edition. | 14:18 |
uberspaced | don't really need a massive ass ipv6 routing table though. | 14:18 |
MrNaz | is there a version of a matrix screensaver that doesn't have gl effects? i'm just after a matrix effect that's as true to the movie as possible | 16:02 |
TheSheep | cmatrix? | 16:04 |
MrNaz | aptitude reports that as installed, but it doesn't show up in my screensaver list... | 16:06 |
MrNaz | ugh | 16:07 |
MrNaz | that's a terminal app... also, it's totally unlike the movie | 16:07 |
MrNaz | there's a great windows version of the matrix screen saver, i havent seen a good one for linux yet | 16:08 |
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eviliguna | hi | 22:23 |
jars | hey there | 22:24 |
eviliguna | I am new to xubuntu, been using pclos for a whle | 22:24 |
jars | :) | 22:24 |
eviliguna | I just finished installing and doing all the updates | 22:24 |
eviliguna | but can't seam to get gstreamer working | 22:24 |
jars | cool | 22:24 |
jars | what about it doesn't work? | 22:24 |
eviliguna | the error is | 22:24 |
eviliguna | "GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices...." | 22:25 |
eviliguna | when i try the command | 22:25 |
eviliguna | "alsaconf" I get "command not found" | 22:25 |
jars | try alsamixer first | 22:25 |
eviliguna | and alsamixer tells me "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" | 22:25 |
jars | That's not a gstreamer issue then. | 22:25 |
jars | Your sound card isn't being recognized. | 22:26 |
eviliguna | ok, so what do I do? | 22:26 |
jars | go into hardware drivers and see if it picks up on your sound card | 22:26 |
eviliguna | it says "No proprietary drivers are in in use on this system" | 22:27 |
jars | do you happen to know what module pclos was using? | 22:28 |
eviliguna | no sorry, pclos was a different comp | 22:28 |
jars | Oh.. | 22:30 |
jars | Hm. | 22:30 |
jars | let's try a different approach then | 22:30 |
jars | Can you open a terminal? | 22:30 |
eviliguna | there | 22:31 |
jars | lspci | grep Audio | 22:31 |
jars | do that in the terminal | 22:32 |
eviliguna | nothing comes out | 22:32 |
eviliguna | the command executes correctly though | 22:32 |
jars | yeah... that's not a good thing | 22:33 |
jars | :/ | 22:33 |
jars | if your audio device was being detected it would've spit out something like.. | 22:33 |
jars | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) | 22:33 |
eviliguna | crap | 22:33 |
eviliguna | is there anything else that one might do? | 22:33 |
jars | What kind of computer are you on? | 22:33 |
jars | Because it appears it's not linux supported. | 22:33 |
eviliguna | the one that has it installed | 22:33 |
eviliguna | is an old ibm 550 mhz | 22:33 |
eviliguna | it says "personal computer 500 PL | 22:34 |
eviliguna | " | 22:34 |
eviliguna | on the fornt | 22:34 |
eviliguna | sorry | 22:34 |
eviliguna | 300 PL | 22:34 |
jars | hmm | 22:34 |
jars | I think that might be old enough for it to not be PCI | 22:35 |
jars | :x | 22:35 |
eviliguna | i think the sound card | 22:35 |
eviliguna | is built into the motherboard | 22:36 |
eviliguna | on this one | 22:36 |
jars | I'm not sure if that will be supported by xubuntu's default kernel.. | 22:36 |
eviliguna | sigh | 22:36 |
eviliguna | alrigh | 22:36 |
eviliguna | t | 22:36 |
eviliguna | maybe i'll try some other distros to see if another one will pick it up | 22:36 |
eviliguna | unless there is any other suggestion? | 22:37 |
jars | well | 22:37 |
jars | you could use windows to find out what the chipset is and then see if the linux kernel supports it at all | 22:37 |
jars | and if it does, and the xubuntu/ubuntu kernel does not support it | 22:37 |
jars | you can compile your own kernel | 22:37 |
eviliguna | lol, I think that is a little outside | 22:38 |
eviliguna | my level of expertise | 22:38 |
jars | Well, it is for most folk. | 22:38 |
jars | Just giving you options. | 22:38 |
jars | :) | 22:38 |
eviliguna | thank you :-) | 22:38 |
jars | np | 22:38 |
eviliguna | but I need this more to work for my stats programs than recompiling my kernel! | 22:38 |
jars | I'm actually surprised by this. | 22:38 |
eviliguna | thank you for all your help though | 22:38 |
jars | Np at all | 22:38 |
eviliguna | i think i can tell you what the sound is | 22:39 |
eviliguna | one sex | 22:39 |
eviliguna | *sec | 22:39 |
jars | kk | 22:39 |
eviliguna | Crystal WDM Audio | 22:39 |
jars | sorry if im a little slow, btw - im on a netbook in class. | 22:39 |
jars | :P | 22:39 |
eviliguna | hah, no prob | 22:40 |
jars | try this | 22:42 |
jars | sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 | 22:42 |
jars | (in terminal( | 22:42 |
jars | ) | 22:42 |
eviliguna | heh, i just tried adding that to my modules file | 22:44 |
eviliguna | lets see what happens | 22:44 |
eviliguna | rebooting | 22:44 |
eviliguna | another weird thing | 22:44 |
jars | you dont need to reboot to modprobe | 22:44 |
eviliguna | during reboot it tells me "Cannont Display this Video Mode" | 22:45 |
eviliguna | and then works after a bit | 22:45 |
jars | weird.. | 22:45 |
eviliguna | yeah, didn't know about modprobe | 22:45 |
eviliguna | so I tried | 22:45 |
eviliguna | advice here | 22:45 |
eviliguna | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23369&page=3 | 22:45 |
eviliguna | hey | 22:46 |
eviliguna | that did something | 22:46 |
eviliguna | I get a mixer now! | 22:46 |
eviliguna | it says "No Controls are marked as visible" | 22:46 |
jars | you can add those | 22:47 |
eviliguna | ok now i marked master as visible | 22:47 |
eviliguna | how can i actually test the sound | 22:47 |
jars | got an audio file handy? | 22:47 |
eviliguna | got youtube | 22:47 |
eviliguna | one sec | 22:47 |
jars | flash would probably be dog slow | 22:47 |
eviliguna | don't have any files on this computer yet | 22:48 |
eviliguna | new format | 22:48 |
jars | yeah | 22:48 |
eviliguna | btw | 22:48 |
eviliguna | what does this do | 22:48 |
eviliguna | modprobe snd-cs4236 | 22:48 |
jars | it loads the snd-cs4236 driver | 22:49 |
eviliguna | ah cool | 22:50 |
eviliguna | alright, i gotta run but if I can't figure it from here | 22:50 |
eviliguna | i'll log back in later | 22:50 |
jars | :) okie | 22:50 |
eviliguna | thank you so much for your help! | 22:50 |
eviliguna | glad I don't have to compile my kernel | 22:50 |
eviliguna | dodged a bullet there | 22:50 |
eviliguna | ! | 22:50 |
jars | hehe | 22:50 |
jars | np | 22:50 |
jars | hope that works out for him >_> | 22:51 |
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