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jacquesdupontdit must be a link of theme files00:00
jacquesdupontdlike we do to apply theme to root applications in gnome00:00
macoright00:00
jacquesdupontdgonna find this tell it to you and then install that arora00:01
tzangerdtchen: hmm I bet it does, thanks ofr the lead00:03
jacquesdupontdcan you imagine i reinstalled all my configured kubuntu cause google was not loading saying protocole not supported, after reinstalling i saw it was doing exactly the same thing, you know what ? it was in fact just because konqueror wanted an adress http://www.google.fr instead of www.google.fr i was amazed to see a so shitty problem not resolved that made me reinstall everything00:04
jacquesdupontdi guess i'm not alone00:04
jacquesdupontdi'm testing arora right now, seems to be really great00:04
jacquesdupontdat least facebook is working haha :))00:07
jacquesdupontdon konqueror facebook is loading m.facebook.com like an mobile phone version that was needed a century before00:08
macojacquesdupontd: slashdot.org is the reason Riddell wanted to kill off konq and put in arora00:08
jacquesdupontdexcept that i have a problem, if i shutdown my computer and load kubuntu it will hang during the loading, if i force the shutdown then and restart it it works perfectly, i would like to see what is blocking and resolve that but i need to know where to find logs or if you have a prog in kubuntu to see logs00:09
jacquesdupontdmaco, haha ok00:09
macothere are no boot logs, unfortunately :-/00:09
tzangerhmm nope00:09
macoso youre saying it doesnt boot right on a warm reboot but is fine on a cold boot?00:09
tzangerkpackagekit was updated in 9.10, I must haved missed something00:10
jacquesdupontdbtw plasmoides really rox it'does amazingly good except some that does not work so good, the fact also that we can directly download new themes and class them by download or notes is impressive and makes us able to have a really beautiful os in a really short time and very easily00:10
macoplasmoids are often javascript or python, so fixing many of them shouldnt be too bad00:11
jacquesdupontdwell in fact i was counter kde before but now i'm about to tell people to install it if they have quite good computers, my computre is a laptop with an intel i7 720q + 4 gigs of ddr3 1067 mhz and a geforce gt240 with 1gig of memory and 1 terra byte of hdd, i'm thinking about buying an 64 gb card sdd to install all os's on it then the computer willl be PERFECT00:12
jacquesdupontdnopr00:13
jacquesdupontdnope00:13
jacquesdupontdit does not boot on a simple and normal reboot but after a hard shutdown during the freeze and a reboot it boots normaly00:13
jacquesdupontdweird no ?00:13
macodefinitely00:14
jacquesdupontd(no logs of booting ? omg :) and also when i try an alt +f1 to see what's happening in the console i just manage to get the kubuntu loading logo bigger and downer hehehe)00:14
macocan you turn off "quiet splash" in grub so you can see how it fails at boot?00:14
macoah yeah get rid of quiet splash and itll show the text00:15
jacquesdupontdyou can't imagine how good is this computer i'm totally amazed on a laptop, it's nearly insane to have a 5400 t/min hdd on it when you see all the conf beside00:15
jacquesdupontdquestion : if i put a 64 gb sd card in the card reader, it will work exactly like a sdd hdd right ? i mean as fast ?00:16
jacquesdupontdmaco, omg i didn't remembered this quiet splash i'm too stupid ok gonna check that :)00:16
macohehehe not stupid :)00:17
jacquesdupontdi'm sure it's about a dkms and this was cause after a weird kernel update and problem with nvidia drivers shoudn't be that hard to fix that, ok now even the update soft is ugly wiith no theme applied i have to find that command to link the theme package to the root application00:17
gigasoftmy taskbar does not close closed programs, they are still there, is there solution for this bug?00:17
michmohii :D00:19
jacquesdupontdok i found my solution so i share it, sudo apt-get install gtk-chtheme00:20
michmocould someone say me how to install Emacs on my Kubuntu, i've tryed sudo apt-get install emacs, but it doesn't work ...00:21
jacquesdupontd2. Run gtk-chtheme as root (sudo gtk-chtheme00:21
jacquesdupontd3. Select Qt, Apply, and hit OK00:21
macomichmo: did you *Just* install? probably need to run "sudo apt-get update" first00:21
jacquesdupontd4. You may have to reboot for changes to occur00:21
macomichmo: also, go with "emacs23" if you want version 23.100:21
jacquesdupontd5. Open Synaptic as root00:21
michmoi'll try update before :D00:22
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gigasoftmy taskbar does not close closed programs, they are still there, is there solution for this bug?00:23
michmoit works great :D00:23
michmothanks maco :D00:23
macomichmo: yay00:23
jacquesdupontdit works perfect now00:24
jacquesdupontdi hope you've note my solution better than links to theme00:24
jacquesdupontdfirefox is not ugly anymore good new :)00:25
jacquesdupontdok now i'm restarting without the quiet00:25
macogigasoft: i seem to be the only one answering questions right now, and i dont use a window list, so i cant answer that, sorry. however, this sounds like a bug, so please check http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-windowlist/+bugs00:26
ErtheIt's a bug in the task manager plasmoid.00:26
ErtheYou just have to remove it from the panel and add it again.00:26
ErtheI've seen this a few times now.00:27
jacquesdupontdcya in a sec everybody gonna see what's happing00:27
jacquesdupontdhappening00:27
michmocya , and thanks for your help :D00:35
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cliftonhi all01:16
cliftoni need help installing a package called mumudvb01:17
clifton./configure - make - make install01:19
clifton?01:19
ErtheYou should ask in the channel for that application, clifton, if it exists01:21
ErtheIf there's a package for it, just install the package01:21
Ertheie: sudo apt-get install mumudvb01:21
cliftonok01:22
ErtheIf there isn't a package for it (and no channel either), then yes do ./configure && make && make install01:22
bazhang!info mumudvb01:23
ubottumumudvb (source: mumudvb): multicasts all channels of a DVB transponder on a network. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.4-1 (karmic), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB01:23
bazhangclifton, ^^01:24
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g__hello whenever I plug in my headphones in my laptop my speakers make this super annoying click every 20 seconds01:30
g__anyone?01:34
g__hello whenever I plug in my headphones in my laptop my speakers make this super annoying click every 20 seconds it never used to do this before on any other versions of ubuntu as I am using the latest one.  I have an hda nvidia chipset with pulse audio now frontlining everything01:34
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fliegenderfroschis there a way to prevent the folders in the home directory (music, downloads...) from being created every startup?01:47
ScarEyeHello everyone, I recently upgraded all my PC's to Kubuntu, it's a kick ass OS01:48
ScarEyegood job to all the developers01:48
ScarEye=)01:48
testingubuntukonI am very pleased with Ubuntu, both Wubi install on top of Windows, and a pure Ubuntu machine01:48
JontheEchidnaScarEye, testingubuntukon: Glad to hear it. :) I hope you enjoy it.01:49
ScarEyeI did have one questions, I have a brand new Dell computer that I installed kubuntu on however, there is no xorg.conf file, do I have set that up manually so that video drivers uses 3D?01:49
macoxorg.conf should not be necessary01:50
macohas not been for a few releases now01:50
macowhat graphics do you have?01:50
JontheEchidnaNVidia or ATI cards using the proprietary drivers will need one, but if you set things up with the Restricted Driver Manager you shouldn't need to do anything.01:50
ScarEyeit's the default driver that comes with dell optiplex 760 Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset intergrated graphics controller01:51
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JontheEchidnaAh, intel. You shouldn't have to do a thing01:51
ScarEyeBut, I don't get the cool 3D stuff that I do with my nVidia01:51
ScarEyeIt should be powerful enough to do 3D I would guess.01:52
JontheEchidnaDo you mean the desktop effects?01:52
ScarEyeI guess01:52
ScarEyelike when I installed my nVidia drivers everything just started to work01:52
ScarEyeand xorg.conf was configured01:52
ScarEyebut that was propritary I guess01:53
ScarEyethe drivers at least01:53
JontheEchidnaYou could check to see if they are enabled. System Settings -> Desktop01:53
ScarEyeokay and then?01:53
JontheEchidnaThe first pane should be "Desktop Effects"01:54
JontheEchidnaThe "Enable desktop effects" checkbox should be checked01:54
ScarEyeOMFG01:55
ScarEyethat was so easy01:55
JontheEchidnaIf not, check it then hit apply01:55
ScarEyethank you very much01:55
JontheEchidna:)01:55
ScarEyeI thought I had to do some crazy compiling and xorg.conf stuff01:55
ScarEyeWow that was sooooo easy..01:55
ScarEyeI took my PC at work and it is running Kubuntu now also01:55
ScarEyeI am totally in love with it.01:55
ScarEyemy kids pc, my wifes pc everything is now kubuntu cause of your hard work01:56
ScarEyeThank you, if the developers every come to NY I am buying drinks01:56
JontheEchidnaHave fun.01:56
ScarEyeThanks JontheEchidna01:57
ScarEyefor your help01:57
sithlord48does any one know if kde has fast user switching support (or how to use the switch user button in the "leave" section of kmenu)02:02
JontheEchidnaOnce you hit "Switch user" in the KMenu a dialog with a "New Session" button should pop up02:04
JontheEchidnaif multiple users are already logged it it will show that button plus buttons for all logged-in users02:04
sithlord48i tired that to spawn a new session but no luck ..02:05
JontheEchidnaI don't know what's wrong. I've never had that happen before. :(02:08
sithlord48yea checked my /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc and i do have reserve servers..02:22
Ev0luti0n_are there also other folks that are unable to install new icon packs from kde-look.org?02:37
Ev0luti0n_lulz02:37
Ev0luti0n_since like 8.04 that this bug exists02:37
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Bridger987I have a quick hardware-related question:  My laptop has a problem with its power jack, and will no longer turn on.  It is three and a half year old, $500 Gateway.02:55
Bridger987Is it worth repairing?  How much would something like that cost?02:56
Ev0luti0n_there are newer and priceworthy options02:56
Ev0luti0n_$02:56
Ev0luti0n_check online for prices or even ebay02:56
Bridger987Prices for new computers, or for parts?  Because I'm more of a software person than a hardware person.  I wouldn't know where to start.02:57
JontheEchidnaIf you went with repairing I definitely wouldn't do it myself. I'd get a quote for a laptop repair and then see if it would be worth spending money for the repair or $400 for a decent new laptop03:01
Bridger987Jon >  What do you think the underlaying problem is?03:03
WilliamBuelldont forget that in USA, so called "Black Friday" is coming up, when everything goes on sale for a drastically reduced price, so it may indeed be cheaper to buy a new laptop than pay for a repair.03:03
JontheEchidnaPresumably, the problem would be with either the jack itself or the power supply. I don't know how replacable either of those are with laptops, though03:04
Bridger987William >  Yep, I've already been looking on Dell's website.  Very good deals, but we'll see.  If I can get it repaired, I will.03:04
Bridger987But if it's going to be a few hundred dollars for parts/labour, then I'm probably just going to go for a new laptop.03:05
WilliamBuellhere is one of many black friday links showing what Dell and others offer http://theblackfriday.com/03:05
Bridger987What do people recommend among the name brands?03:05
WilliamBuellplus, stop and think how you will get something more advanced, and perhaps you will get a warrantee period, which is added value03:06
WilliamBuellDell Latitude, at least some years ago, was the MOST rugged of their laptops, and I knew a Dell technician who explained that it was more heavy duty than their Inspiron line03:06
WilliamBuelland Dell is offering some laptops that come with a Linux Remix of sorts, with the caveat that it is still kind of in Beta and more for "the developer"03:07
Bridger987The computer I was looking at was a Vostro 1520.  Do you know of any problems/experiences with this model?03:07
WilliamBuellIt has always been my opinion that, unless light weight, small size, and portability are ESSENTIAL for your needs, then you will get far more "bang for the buck" with a desktop, plus it will be easier to service, repair, upgrade03:08
WilliamBuellI would suggest simply to google on the brand you like and model # together with the word PROBLEM03:08
Bridger987I've already done it.  ^_^  I just wanted to check and see if anyone had any personal experiences.03:09
Bridger987And yes, portability's a must.  I'm a student, and use my laptop to take notes.03:09
macoBridger987: i get my ubuntu hardware from zareason.com03:10
WilliamBuellWell, then it is obvious that for you a desktop is NOT an option03:10
macosystem76.com is also popular03:10
WilliamBuellin my mind, Dell has been a stable company around for SO LONG, and  in Computer/Technology time, even 10 years is like a century, if you know what I mean03:11
Roastedwheres the partition editor by default? I'm on the livecd and cant seem to find it03:12
WilliamBuellmaco:  zareason.com looks like a link i want to check out, THANKS03:13
xenomewhen I install kubuntu fresh the fonts look fantastic, then I install a few GTK apps (pidgin, xchat, firefox) and the fonts suck, then I updated to KDE 4.3.3 and now the fonts look great again.  What causes this?03:13
Bridger987maco , WilliamBuell >  Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. ^_^03:14
WilliamBuellwhich do some of you prefer, and why:  Ubuntu,      Kubuntu,      or  Edubuntu.03:15
tsimpsonerm03:15
tsimpson!ot03:15
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:15
tsimpsonbut you probably want #ubuntu-offtopic (unless you like talking to yourself)03:16
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Roastedwilliambuell - check PM03:23
Roastedso, figure this one out. I put my LiveCD in my main rig for Kubuntu 9.04 and boot up. It boots fine. I see the screen on both monitors on the livecd. I reboot, go back to the livecd, and my main monitor is unresponsive "Current input timiung is not supported"03:23
canolucashow do i get the md5sums of a file ?03:26
tsimpsoncanolucas: "md5sum file"03:27
g__hello whenever I plug in my headphones in my laptop my speakers make this super annoying click every 20 seconds it never used to do this before on any other versions of ubuntu as I am using the latest one.  I have an hda nvidia chipset with pulse audio now frontlining everything03:27
Roastedodd, when I reboot, everything is fine then with the livecd with dual monitors. weird :/03:28
sharpen047jussi01, hey03:28
sharpen047would someone mind helping me? every time i start my computer my internet doesnt work, i delete the profile and make a new one and then it works03:34
antman91im tryin to find a new icon theme. i would like an alien os icon theme but i cant get it to install any ideas?03:34
antman91sharpen047:  are u running wireless?03:35
sharpen047antman91, yes i am03:35
xenomeKDE keeps crashing on me, is there a log I could look at for hints to what's going on?03:35
antman91sharpen047:  is there a secruity code?03:35
sharpen047antman91, yes there is03:36
antman91sharpen047:  ok go to manage cnnections03:36
sharpen047okay03:36
antman91sharpen047:  wirless tab03:36
antman91sharpen047:  add03:36
antman91sharpen047:  put in ur info03:37
antman91sharpen047:  and connect auto should be checked03:37
sharpen047done03:37
macoxenome: ~/.xsession_errors?03:37
antman91sharpen047:  there ya go03:37
sharpen047it is03:37
xenomeso if kde crashes and then requires me to log back in, is that kwin or plasma that is crashing03:37
antman91sharpen047:  save and it should all be good03:38
sharpen047antman91, it is already checked03:38
sharpen047when i reboot it says "unavailable"03:38
xenomedang, looks like .xsessions_errors was overwritten when I logged back in03:39
antman91sharpen047:  did u aply it?03:39
sharpen047antman91, yeah i have to do that every time i reboot03:39
antman91sharpen047:  hmm weird works 4 me everytime03:40
sharpen047antman91, it worked for me until i uninstalled pulse audio03:40
antman91sharpen047:  hmm.03:40
antman91sharpen047:  well idk what that would have done.03:41
sharpen047exactly03:41
sharpen047dont worry i tend to  find the errors that no one knows the answers to03:41
antman91sharpen047:  run an update check there are bug fixes out today03:41
antman91sharpen047: lol i dont work for linux i was just bored xD03:42
sharpen047haah03:42
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sharpen047ive gotten 2 devs stuck lately so yeah03:42
sharpen047no updates "(03:42
antman91sharpen047:  did you update yet?03:42
antman91sharpen047:  refresh?03:42
antman91sharpen047:  im sory what version are you running?03:43
sharpen0479.1003:43
antman91sharpen047: me to did you all ready update today?03:43
sharpen047yup03:43
antman91sudo apt-get update run that in the terminal03:43
sharpen047im using kpackagekit03:44
antman91maybe this will help when i installed pulse audio a dev told me to run sudo apt-get upgrade03:44
antman91there are bugs with kpkit03:45
antman91sharpen047:  it seams everytime im on here i help more people then the mediators03:47
antman91sharpen047:  did you run those commands?03:47
Roastedhey uh simple question - how do I dual screen my kubuntu machine?> Im used to gnome so Im not sure where to find this setting at03:50
sharpen047antman91, which? sorry the update?03:50
antman91sharpen047:  yes first the update and then sudo apt-get upgrade03:50
sharpen047i did that earlier03:51
antman91sharpen047:  the upgrade to?03:52
sharpen047yes03:54
antman91sharpen047:  then i can be of no further help =[ i am sorry03:54
sharpen047sok :D like i said i get tone ones people dont know anything about03:55
Roastedguys where do you set up dual screen at with nvidia in kubuntu03:57
ErtheChinese food == good.04:01
ErtheMy official position on that.04:01
sharpen047used to be in xorg.conf Roasted04:01
sharpen047its called dualview04:02
Roastedsharpen047 - yeah but theres a gui tool with nvidia in gnome to set up dual monitors. I expected to see the same in kde I just dont know where its at assuming it exists.04:03
sharpen047haha this was a couple years ago but when you install the drivers via nvidia it would ask you then04:04
Roastedhey guys - I got dual screen running but my native res on my second monitor is 1440x900, but it will only allow me to choose up to 1368x76804:14
ErtheUh, that's a video driver issue.04:16
ErtheAre they the same monitor?04:16
ErtheLike, same model?04:16
Roastedno04:19
RoastedI didnt have this problem in gnome with the same driver :/04:19
Roastedokay wow04:20
RoastedI just opened system settings, I didnt change anything, I just OPENED it04:20
Roastedand it split my main monitor into 4 squares04:20
Roastedlike a mix matched puzzle04:20
Roastedwhat the fk04:20
Roastedokay, back to normal - same problem persists - poor resolution in 2nd monitor04:22
ErtheAre you in System Settings -> Display?04:23
perseidHi. I'm trying to upgrade from 9.03 to 9.10 and I get these errors. http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=gizvf04:23
RoastedGAH04:24
Roastedyeah04:24
Roastederthe when I go there thats when it gets fked up04:24
Roastedcome onnnnnnnnnnnnn kde04:24
Roastedokay Im in system settings - display with ONE monitor configured. Do I need to do anything here?04:25
ErtheI'm just reading about the issue now.04:27
ErtheWhat GPU are you running?04:27
Erthe(Display Adapter)04:28
RoastedNvidia 9600GT04:28
Erthehttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Configure_Dual_Monitors_with_nVidia04:28
ErtheGoogle ftw  :D04:29
Roasteddood this is exactly what I did in gnome04:29
Roastedand exactly what I did just now04:30
Roastedthe problem is my 2nd monitor isnt getting the proper resolution04:30
ebovineRoasted: I had to change monitor cables to get mine to detect properly.04:30
Roastedebovine - the thing is, I dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu on this computer04:30
ErtheRoasted: Oh, uh.04:30
Roastedboth 9.04, both 64 bit04:31
RoastedI can boot to ubuntu04:31
RoastedBLAM. perfect.04:31
FloodBotK1Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:31
RoastedI boot to Kubuntu, "sorry sir we dont know what resolution youre using"04:31
ErtheThat's very very strange.04:31
ErtheYou could always try modifying xorg.conf yourself04:32
Roastedyeah, no04:32
RoastedKubuntu may have to take a back seat04:32
ErtheIt's the same OS though, and that's an xorg.conf issue.04:32
Roastedwhy does my screen freak out when I select system settings - display?04:32
ErtheSolvable too.04:32
Roastedyou know04:32
RoastedIll just mount my ubuntu partition04:32
Roastedgrab the xorg04:32
Roastedand toss it on here04:32
FloodBotK1Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:32
RoastedFKING BLOOD BOT04:33
RoastedI wish I could punch them in the face04:33
Erthehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1137206.html04:33
RoastedI should try the 173 driver04:35
Roastedinstead of 18004:35
ErtheYes.04:36
ErtheI just got to that part too  :D04:36
ErtheIt's a jaunty issue it seems.04:36
RoastedI should see what driver Im on in ubuntu04:37
ErtheYour GNOME installation may have the 173, that's why it works  :D04:37
ErtheLOL04:37
ErtheYes.04:37
Roastedgonna reboot to it now04:37
RoastedI could have sworn it was 180 though04:37
Roastedor 18x something04:37
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Roastedgah I hate computers04:37
ErtheYou're setting up an OS in one night04:37
ErtheYou're actually making good time, think about it  :D04:37
Roastedwell, I SHOULD be making good time considering what I do for a living. :P04:38
Roastedremember, sc hool district, many systems04:38
Roastedall in a days work04:38
Roasted:P04:38
Guest7035k04:38
ErtheWell I hope you get it up and running the way you want, I'd like to see what you think of it once you've had a chance to work with it a bit.04:38
Roastedhey uh erthe04:39
Roastedgnome - 9.04 64 bit - ubuntu - nvidia 180 drivers - works perfectly04:39
ErtheI'm using the 180 too.04:40
gorgonzolahello, anyone here can help with latex? i can't figure out where to put bst files...04:41
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Roastedwow04:44
Roastederthe - I installed 173 drivers. Now the only options I have for my 19 inch monitor, resolution wise, is 320x240 and 640x48004:45
Roastedawesome04:45
ErtheWhy not copy your working xorg.conf file from Ubuntu?04:46
RoastedIm gonna try that next after I get the 180 drivers back in04:46
Erthe(Or even just try it)04:46
Erthe*nods*04:46
Roastedwow04:46
Roastedkde just crashed04:46
ErtheBy you doing?04:47
Roastedselecting "remove" in the hardware drivers section04:48
ErtheOh, I can see why it maybe did not like that.04:48
Roastedis KDE supposed to crash when I try to remove a driver?04:49
ErtheNo.04:49
ErtheI have a pretty moderate desktop system, 3.2Ghz CoreDuo, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia Video, Integrated Audio, 19" widescreen and 0 issues system stability wise.04:50
ErtheJust odds and ends application crap.04:50
RoastedI dont know man04:50
Roastedthis isnt looking good04:50
RoastedI rebooted and trying to remove the driver now. Its doing the same shit again.04:51
ErtheDo it from a console.04:51
RoastedQuad core, 4gb DDR2, 9600GT, 19" and 24"04:51
ErtheCTRL-ALT-F04:51
ErtheCTRL-ALT-F304:51
FloodBotK1Erthe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:51
ErtheAnd remove the package from there.04:51
ErtheWith respect to display issues, that isn't KDE or GNOME, that's X.04:52
ErtheI'm surprised your Ubuntu installation works with both monitors the way you want.04:52
Roastedits always worked since day 1, and Ive changed my display configuration around a lot04:52
Roastedat one point I was using a 22 and a 17 inch CRT04:52
ErtheBecause the base hardware support is in the OS, not the desktop.04:52
Roastedthen 22 and 19 inch CRT, then 22 inch and 19 inch, then 24 inch and 19 inch04:52
RoastedIve changed it around a lot and never had an issue04:53
Roastedthats what I thought too04:53
Roastedbut its hard to place blame when the only thing that changed was KDE itself04:53
Roastedwhat am I typing in terminal?04:53
ErtheOh, do you know the package name?04:53
Roastedno04:53
ErtheOne sec then...04:54
ErtheYour removing the 180?04:54
Roastedwait, nevermind. Now it magically decided to prompt me for a PW and remove properly.04:54
Roastedremoving 17304:54
ErtheOh.04:54
ErtheWell, now reboot and it'll let you install the 180 I think.04:54
Roastedyeah04:55
ErtheOr install it and run the config again I guess.04:55
Roasteddo you know why it backfired when I went into system settings - display04:55
Roastedmy screen turned into a puzzle04:55
Roastedmy main monitor got split into 4 pieces and scattered around. What was on the left of my screen was in the center and shit04:56
ErtheThat I don't know.04:56
ErtheIt's not that KDE doesn't have bugs, but it was basically rewritten for version 4 due to the changes in Qt when they made the version jump.04:56
ErtheIt's all very new.04:56
RoastedI understand. It's just frustrating when I read that KDE is solid and stuff and I come here and I cant even get twinview to work. This stuff is something that... just... works... for me in gnome04:57
ErtheBut for me, KDE4 honors whatever resolutions I set in nvidia-config04:57
RoastedIm sure KDE would honor those resolutions to whatever I set04:57
Roastedthe problem is, its not giving me the proper resolutions in the first place04:57
Erthenvidia-config you mean?04:57
Roastedyeah04:57
Roasted1360x768 = max res for my 19 inch monitor04:57
ErtheThat's not KDE  :D04:58
Roastednative res for it is 1440x90004:58
Roastedeven still... hate to fire this line out, but its fine in gnome *shrug*04:58
ErtheI can't imagine what's different between your Ubuntu installation and your Kubuntu installation, they're basically the same base OS.04:59
ErtheGNOME is a shell in an X server.04:59
ErtheSo is KDE.04:59
Roastedthats where Im confused too04:59
ErtheGNOME deals with whatever X gives it to deal with, so does KDE.04:59
ErtheX is a server you "broadcast" apps to.04:59
ErtheSo typing X on the command line (don't do this when you have an x server running already) will give you basically a blank slate.05:00
ErtheIt's a cursor and a graphical display.05:00
ErtheYou have to run apps that broadcast to that display.05:00
ErtheEverything graphical environment wise in Linux runs in X.05:00
ErtheYour hardware is configured for X.05:00
ErtheThen delegated to your desktop environment.05:01
ErtheSo it's not KDE's fault that your X installation is fucked.  :D05:01
ErtheIt wouldn't be GNOME's either.05:01
Roastedjust copied the xorg.conf over, rebooting now05:02
ErtheCool.05:02
Roastedif this doesnt work Im gonna freeeeeek05:02
ErtheIf it doesn't work, make a post on a forum and go to sleep.  :D05:02
Roastedalready posted on the forum05:02
ErtheThe other great thing about getting any Linux up and running is typically there are people who have had your problem and created a solution.05:03
Roastedworked05:03
RoastedWIN05:03
ErtheYa?05:03
RoastedIT WORKED05:03
ErtheGrats  :D05:03
FloodBotK1Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:03
gorgonzolaErthe: exception being, how to make kdm/gdm behave and follow xorg resolution confs, or just not try to apply their own.05:03
RoastedI'd like to know why the KDE side of nvidia-settings fails to show me the proper settings then05:04
ErtheI think KDM/GDM are voodoo.05:04
gorgonzolaErthe: i'm still booting into a non-wide screen splash in my wide screen monitor... and no one seems to know where the f* kdm is getting those settings from :(05:04
ErtheRoasted, don't worry about it.05:05
ErtheLeave X config to nvidia-settings05:05
Roastederthe - but I want to know what happened...05:05
ErtheLet the KDE config for it alone, there could be bugs in it is all.05:05
ErtheSee if you can use the KDE settings for display now05:05
ErtheIf it works, yay.05:05
ErtheIf not, you have working configuration.05:05
ErtheDoesn't mean you can't record what you did in a forum and see if someone can solve the issue.05:06
Roastedoh yeah Im, leaving this system alone05:06
Erthegorgonzola: I think KDM and GDM have their own config.05:06
Roastedbut I just want to understand what happened05:06
ErtheYou can look at .xsession-errors I think in your home directory05:07
Roastedhere goes the panel again...05:07
RoastedI appreciate the help erthe :)05:08
Erthenp man.05:09
ErtheHow's it looking now?05:09
gorgonzolaErthe, thanks for the help, but i have learned to live with it. anyway, i ws just mentioning that login managers do not play nice with xorg.conf and that... nevermind me :)05:09
RoastedI just effed up the panel. Ill figure it out though.05:09
RoastedI like the responsiveness of KDE though.05:09
Roastedit doesnt seem bloated at all05:09
ErtheYou have a 3D card, turn on the desktop effects.  :D05:09
Roastedthe log in/out sounds HAVE to go though lol05:09
ErtheWobbly windows ftw05:09
Roastedalready did man :P05:09
ErtheI like transparent windows when moving.05:10
Roastedyeah, I dig that too05:10
Roastedtheres something about dolphin too thats just more attractive05:10
ErtheI'm going to share my favourite feature of KDE with you.05:11
ErtheDo you write much code?05:11
Roastedcode? me?05:12
Brhad56Wobbly windows annoy the piss out of me.05:12
RoastedIm a hardware guy05:12
ErtheThe file dialog in KDE allows you to save 'Places' uniquely per application.05:12
Roastedgive me a couple 25,000 dollar servers and a couple boxes of ethernet cable and Ill make them humm05:12
Roastedask me to code a simple HTML web page and I get all duur da duur05:12
ErtheSo in Kate, the places in my dialog are specific to working with code.05:12
ErtheIn Dolphin, it's music, videos, etc.05:12
ErtheOh, well, learning how to write shell scripts are handy for anyone  :D05:13
ErtheDolphin is so much more usable for me than Nautilus05:14
forge_I still prefer konqi05:14
Ertheforge_: I use that when I'm working because of the complicated split panes I use in it.05:15
forge_but yeah I'd take quite a few others before I even looked at nautilus05:15
Ertheforge_: But every day file management, Dolphin is very nice.05:15
forge_Krusader is kewl...05:15
ErtheKrusader is nice, yes.05:15
Roastedman05:16
Roastedmy clock is taking up 3/4 of my top panel and I cant downsize it05:16
Roastedhow can I be so retarded with the simplest things05:16
Roastednevermind, I got it. Im stupid. I removed task manmager and clock spanned across the entire thing05:20
Erthehaha.05:20
RoastedIm learning man05:20
RoastedIm tired, delirious, slightly drunk, but I'm learning05:21
ErtheIt's all good.05:24
Erthe<-- smoked a roach after the chinese food05:24
Roastedit was you that said most of your gnome buddies switched to kde right?05:24
Erthe5 of them now.05:24
ErtheStill waiting on the other 3.05:24
Erthe:D05:24
Roastedaint gonna lie - I can see why05:24
Roasteddont get me wrong, I love gnome. LOVE it. But I can see why KDE is a very worthy competitor.05:24
ErtheThe longer you use it, the more you'll find the little gems that you get hooked on using.05:24
Roastedand the beauty of Linux allowing me to share 1 home directory between 2 operating systems means I can integrate Kubuntu to be my main OS so easily its unreal05:24
ErtheLinux > Windows05:24
Erthe:)05:24
gorgonzolaand the deeper you'll begin hating gnome :P05:24
stevoKDE FTW05:24
RoastedIm just still overwelmingly happy that I can share a home directory between 2 OSs05:24
ErtheYa, the more I've used KDE the more I've thought of GNOME as "the other environment"05:24
RoastedI mean wtf05:24
Brhad56KDE & Gnome are not OS's.05:24
gorgonzolaRoasted: yes, it's the coolest thing. i was just being obnoxious.05:24
Roastedeven still, brhad56, I could do this with opensuse and fedora if I wanted05:24
Roastedstill linux, but a different flavor05:24
stevoi believe you05:24
ErtheBrhad56: He means he boots between Ubuntu and Kubuntu while using the same home dir between the two.05:24
Brhad56Roasted: I am skeptical.05:25
gorgonzolame too05:25
ErtheKDE was the first between the two (GNOME and KDE) to have a UI guideline for it's applications.05:25
gorgonzolathat sounds... pornographic.05:25
stevoskeptical of what05:25
ErtheGNOME applications still exhibit the potpouri of GNOME design non-standards.05:25
Brhad56I am skeptical of being able to share the same home director on a dual boot of OpenSUSE and Fedora05:26
Brhad56director=directory05:26
ErtheBrhad56: You can.05:26
Roastedbrhad56 - in the installer, just select the home partition accordingly and mount it - but dont format it05:26
ErtheYou just mount the home partition from the same partition for both.05:26
stevohow will that work05:26
ErtheSo /home is always /dev/sdxn05:26
Roastedstevo - simple. In one OS, the partition is listed as home and it mounts it. In the other OS, it does the same. Both OSs arent online at the same time.05:27
Roastedstevo - my main system right now is broken up like this - Vista / Swap/ Ubuntu / Home / Kubuntu05:27
Brhad56Google tells me you guys speak of the truth.  Sorry I doubted05:27
gorgonzolayuo can probably pull that out because both oses onyl differ in desktop environments...05:27
RoastedUbuntu and Kubuntu share the same home dir. I rebooted to Kubuntu for the first time and presto - there was my 300gb of data :P05:27
stevoso you have your home directory as another partition?05:27
gorgonzolabut it sounds like a recipe for disaster...05:28
Roastedstevo - yes05:28
Roastedgorzonzola - its really not05:28
Roastedits on a separate partition, thats why05:28
Roastedyou mount the partition, its just that simple05:28
ErtheOne of the early great things about UNIX was large networks where everyones home directory was hosted on a remote server.05:28
ErtheMounted via NFS to each "terminal"05:28
stevoi just have it on the same partition05:28
Roastedstevo - that may be a problem then05:29
RoastedI always partition my home directory away from root05:29
Roasted1gb swap - 20gb root ( / ) - remainder as home05:29
gorgonzolaRoasted, yeah, i undersatend, and its a cool setup, i hadn't thought about that. but /home is not soooo system agnostic. in the case o k|ubuntu it won;t be a problem, because the libs and other stuff is the same...05:29
ErtheA good practice, FYI05:29
stevodoes it make it faster or something?05:29
gorgonzolabut even with ubuntu and debian you probably would be asking for too much.05:29
Roastedno, its just more convenient05:29
ErtheTypically software is not installed in /home/<user>05:29
ErtheIt should be installed on the system and used by users.05:30
Brhad56I have learned something new for the day.  I can turn my brain off now.05:30
Roastedstevo - when you upgrade ubuntu, you can do a fresh install on your root partition without formatting your home directory05:30
stevoahhhhh05:30
ErtheYou can mount a partition anywhere you want stevo05:30
stevothat is pretty useful05:30
gorgonzolastevo: yeah, its really a good idea, you should try it.05:30
Roastedstevo - I never do upgrades. I do fresh installs. So I can crash my main partition, install the new linux version I want, and hwen I boot up (because I mounted my home directory in the installer) presto - all my shit is there05:30
Erthemount /dev/sdb3 /home/myuser/workspace05:30
Roastedbecause after all, we need to spend our time tinkering with our linux systems - not copying our data back over from a backup drive :P :P05:30
ErtheWould assign that partition to that path05:30
stevohow do I make it work with all the .kde .firefox .mozilla and all of that05:31
Roastedstevo - it just seems to work05:31
ErtheStevo:  Your home directory contains all of your user-specific configuration for applications, as well as your files.05:31
Roastedstevo - I JUST signed on Pidgin for the first time. On Ubuntu, I had my password saved. In Kubuntu, booted up for the first time and 10 seconds ago I clicked on my Pidgin icon. It signed right on because of the information in my .pidgin folder in home05:31
Roastedor .purple, whatever it is for pidgin05:32
ErtheIf it's on a separate partition, as long as your UID is the same for the users on each OS, it can be mounted by many OSs05:32
ErtheRoasted, try Kopete  :D05:32
stevoif I done a new install, and had this home partition, how would I make it work with this different directory as default05:32
ErtheIn fact, PM me a MSN email if you have one, I'll add you so you can play with Kopete.05:32
Erthestevo: When you set up your mount points when you reinstall, you can simply mount the partition as /home and not format it.05:33
ErtheIt'll keep all the data the way it was.05:33
ErtheAnd when  your system boots your home directory is as it was before you installed.05:34
gorgonzolahey that UID detail is an important detail, if you ever plan on having more than one user...05:34
stevoIf i had a new install of slackware, on a diff partition than kubuntu, how would I configure it to be the correct home directory, not the one preinstalled05:34
ErtheWell, I don't know much about the slackware install.05:35
gorgonzolastevo, that was the exact thing i was warning about above :)05:35
stevookay, okay, xubuntu05:35
gorgonzolastevo, that will proabaly work just fine :)05:35
ErtheBut once it's up, you can just edit fstab to mount whatever partition to /home05:35
ErtheOn a UNIX filesystem files are saved with the UID and GID of the user that saved them.05:36
ErthePermissions are stored too.05:36
stevoif I mount it, why wouldn't it be just another filesystem?05:36
ErtheThe user you assign that home directory too just needs to have the same UID so you can modify the files.05:36
gorgonzolastevo 'coz you told it to mount it to /home :)05:37
Erthestevo: The idea is that you have /dev/sdb3 (for example) as your home partition.05:37
ErtheIn *any* Linux, you can mount /dev/sdb3 /home05:37
ErtheAnd all the files in that partition will exist in /home05:37
ErtheSo /home/youruser will always be /home/youruser05:37
gorgonzolayou can mount anything anywhere... for example, having a separate /var /usr or /home partition can be useful in some setups.05:37
ErtheYup.05:38
ErtheSo you can mount it anywhere.05:38
stevohow do I specify the mount?05:38
gorgonzolain /etc/fstab05:38
ErtheWell, you could create a directory in your home directory called 'foo'05:38
ErtheAnd do mount /dev/sdb3 /home/youruser/foo05:38
stevowhy foo?05:38
ErtheIt's an example  :D05:38
ErtheThe idea is, like drive letters with Windows, a partition is mounted onto the root filesystem.05:39
ErtheAnd any Linux can read that partition, because it'll be formatted with a Linux filesystem type.05:39
ErtheSo long as your user ID remains the same between Linux installations, you can use that homedir all the time.05:39
ErtheMake sense now?05:40
stevohow do I mount it to a place tho05:41
ErtheYou type:  mount /dev/device /mount/point05:42
ErtheBut you have to have a partition to mount.05:42
ErtheAnd a mount point.05:42
stevowill I have to do this everytime I boot?05:42
ErtheIf you were going to setup your system that way, you could just put it in fstab05:43
ErtheThe file is /etc/fstab05:43
Roastedafter installing medibuntu does it require a reboot?05:43
ErtheIt will mount when the system boots.05:43
ErtheRoasted: I, dunno.05:43
stevowell, how do I get the same UID05:44
Erthestevo, you can specify your UID by hand if you want, for both OSs05:44
ErtheRead about /etc/passwd and /etc/group05:44
ErtheEach user is assigned an ID when it's created.05:44
ErtheMost Linux distributions assign 1000 as the first user id.05:45
stevolike, If i put stevo on kubuntu and stevo on xubuntu with same pass, would that work05:45
stevok05:45
ErtheThe passwords could be different.05:45
ErtheJust so long as the UID was the same.05:45
ErtheNot username either, it's the UID that counts.05:45
ErtheThe username can even be different  :D05:45
stevowhere do I change the UID05:46
Roastederthe - damn KDE05:46
ErtheI'm pretty sure the only spot you need to is /etc/passwd, but read about it, don't take my word on it.05:46
ErtheRoasted: Hmm?05:46
Roastedthis thing is going to keep me up all night playing with it. I gotta customize things the way I want, get to know it, find a new theme, etc05:46
RoastedGAHHHHHHHHH :P05:46
ErtheLOL05:46
ErtheYou'll have fun though.05:46
stevothank you all, I just learned another linux doohickey05:47
ErtheThe nice thing about KDE is that you can download all the themes from the interfaces that set them.05:47
ErtheFree wallpapers, colour schemes, plasmoids, etc.05:47
stevoanother question...05:47
Erthestevo: shoot.05:47
Roastedin gnome I just drag/drop themes to the appearance folder - how do I do it in KDE? Same method?05:47
Roastedassuming I grab from kde-lookj.org that is05:47
stevowhat is the smallest linux that I can put on a flash drive that still has a gui05:47
ErtheRoasted: It'll show you a list from that site, you hit install, it downloads and installs it.05:47
ErtheRoasted: In the interface.  Right lick on your desktop and go to settings.05:48
ErtheRoasted: You'll see what I mean once you're in there05:48
Erthestevo: Umm, there are a ton of small projects.05:48
RoastedErthe - so if Im on kde-look.org and I find one and hit install, it does the rest?05:48
Erthestevo: I know a few people who've setup bootable Ubuntu.05:48
stevoDSL isn't small05:48
ErtheRoasted: No, when you go to look at the available themes in your system settings, there's a dialog there to fetch a list from that site and download it for you05:49
ErtheRoasted: And install it05:49
Erthestevo: There's a roll your own Linux out there.05:49
Erthestevo: But it's slow to get setup.05:49
Roasteddude this is unreal05:50
Roastedwhy is this so easy05:50
ErtheRoasted: You can go to kde-look.org too and download manually, but it's an extra step05:50
ErtheLOL05:50
ErtheCause GNOME blows05:50
Erthehaha05:50
FloodBotK3Erthe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:50
Roastedwhy did I take so long to try this out, seriously05:50
* Erthe hugs FloodBotK305:50
RoastedIll always love gnome man, but this is pretty solid05:50
ErtheParts of me love GNOME too.05:50
ErtheMostly it's boot speed.05:51
ErtheI would use GNOME on a laptop.05:51
ErtheBut KDE owns my desktop.05:51
Roastedman KDE boots just as fast on here as gnome does05:51
RoastedI timed it :P05:51
ErtheI use a pretty stock GNOME config.05:51
ErtheNo customizations really.05:51
stevomy resolution resets when I start the computer or log back in to the maximum size05:53
RoastedErthe - I cant seem to figure out how to apply an existing picture I have as my background05:53
ErtheAnother thing that's sweet, Roasted, once you get your window decorations, styles, colours, etc. setup in KDE, you can save it all as a theme.05:53
stevoi have an nvidia card05:53
Roastednevermind, Im stupid05:54
ErtheRoasted: Umm.  You can browse to it's location directly or use the dropdown thing (which saves background picture locations)05:54
RoastedErthe - you can do that in Gnome too man05:54
ErtheRoasted: I know, I was just pointed it out.  :D05:54
Erthestevo: Run nvidia-config05:54
stevoi have05:54
stevoin sudo also05:54
perseidHmm. I used Get New Themes to get some Splash Screens but they don't show up in the list to select them.05:55
Ertheperseid: Some of the splash screens on KDE-look right now don't install because the packages are formatted improperly.05:55
RoastedErthe - in Gnome I had a picture that was one big picture scaled to fit both monitors. In KDE It only applies that picture to 1 monitor. How can I work around this?05:55
Erthestevo: I would post that on the forums.  If you can't write xorg.conf something else entirely is wrong.05:55
perseid'k.05:56
stevoi think it is kde's fault05:56
ErtheRoasted: Umm, that I actually don't know.05:56
ErtheGooglin'05:56
stevoI fixed it, but then desktop effects don't start at same time05:56
ErtheSelect tiled Roasted05:57
ErtheSee if that helps05:57
stevoRoasted cut the image in half, and apply 1 to each?05:57
Roastedstevo - I can do that, but I dont know how to individually select this picture = monitor 1, this picture = monitor 2, otherwise Id do that05:57
stevoah05:58
RoastedErthe - I tried all options in the drop down. None worked.05:58
RoastedAll of them left my 19 with the default "air" image05:58
ErtheStill lookin'05:58
stevothat is a bummer05:58
Roastedah well05:59
Roastedits a small issue05:59
RoastedI also notice Im on KDE 4.2.2. I need to 4.3.2. this shyt :P05:59
ErtheI would do that first.06:00
Erthe:)06:00
Roastedyeah06:01
Roastedlooking on how to06:01
Roastedalso - apps open by default to my 2nd monitor. Is that a setting I can change?06:02
ErtheUm, ya, I think that's a window behaviour thing, one sec..06:03
ErtheSystem Settings -> Window Behaviour06:03
ErtheBut I'm not sure you can direct the app to a display.06:04
Erthe(I don't have two monitors, so my options may differ from yours)06:04
ErtheThe Advanced tab lets you decide how they present when the open though06:04
ErtheIf that doesn't work, you can set a global window setting I'm sure06:04
RoastedI cant get my effing sound to work....06:07
Roastedmedibuntu I think06:07
ErtheYou can always copy your alsa config or whatever from your other installation.06:08
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ErtheWhen I started running Linux in '98, configuring everything took days on my first install.06:11
ErtheIt was a week before I had my audio functioning.06:12
ErtheI don't miss RedHat.06:12
Roastedin 2 hours I have pretty much everything done :P06:12
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Erthe2 hours?06:12
ErtheKeep counting  :D06:12
RoastedIm sure Ill find more stuff but were off to a good start!06:12
ErtheYou should try out Kopete.06:12
Crash8308hey anyone know what is a good channel for dvd encoders?06:12
ErtheIt's the everything IM.06:13
ErtheDevede is what I use to make DVD ISOs06:13
ErtheAVI -> DVD06:13
ErtheOr anything really.06:13
Crash8308or rather06:14
Crash8308decode dvds06:14
ErtheJust to watch DVDs?06:14
ErtheOr to rip them?06:14
Crash8308rip/backup06:14
ErtheRipping it is probably easy given that you can just dump the bytes.06:15
ErtheGoogle can tell you how.06:15
ErtheUsing it to back stuff up, you can use K3B06:15
ErtheTo make DVD data discs.06:15
Crash8308I already know how, but I need to know which track to rip from Star-Trek06:15
Crash8308it has 99 of them....06:15
Crash8308the encryption on this thing is mad06:15
Crash8308i was trying to find online but i can only find info on the AU disc not the region 106:16
ErtheThis is the wrong channel for that kind of question.06:17
Crash8308i know.... do you know a channel?06:17
ErtheNot on this network, no.06:17
ErtheYou could try #decss, but I dunno.06:17
Crash8308i haven't used IRC for a loooong time06:17
ErtheEFNet has warez channels06:18
ErtheThey could direct you to the correct place I'm sure.06:18
tsimpsonwe can't support your actions and you need to stop speaking about it now06:18
Crash8308no problem :)06:18
ErtheHey tsimpson  :D06:18
* tsimpson thinks about putting "EFNet" on highlight, but then thinks better of it06:19
ErtheTalk about an old network.06:20
ErtheI first started IRCing on Undernet, moved to EFNet, but in the last 6 years I haven't really IRCed anywhere but on this network.06:20
caris_meremy sound works under 9.10, except when the sound should be produced through firefox. How can I get that to work?06:20
ErtheIM killed IRC06:20
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ErtheOK, goodnight folks.06:30
ErtheHave fun with your configuration Roasted.  :)06:30
Roastedthanks brosef06:30
Roasted:)06:30
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Guest992hii all06:33
Roastedsup06:34
stevohello06:34
stevoI love learning from these channels06:35
Roastedyeah man06:35
Roastedthese channels and the forums are great06:35
stevoyea06:35
RoastedI have a stupid question06:35
Roastedhow in the world do I get the volume icon in the top panel06:35
stevodefinitely much more of a community than windows06:35
RoastedI cant seem to find it06:35
Roastedtop panel meaning my regular kde panel - I just moved mine to the top06:36
stevoyou should log out and log back in06:36
Roastedi did06:36
stevothat usually happens when you restart x06:36
RoastedI did tho06:36
RoastedI think I deleted it on accident06:36
Roastedbut Its not in the widge list to readd06:36
Roastedso Im lost06:36
stevowell... It is called Kmix06:37
stevo...06:37
stevoso did you or did you not restart x06:37
RoastedI rebooted06:38
Roastedgot it! thanks06:38
RoastedI just dragged kmix to the panel06:38
stevok06:38
stevoany other things I can help y0u with?06:38
Roasteddo you know why ALL windows default ot opening on my 2nd monitor?06:38
RoastedI want them to default to my primary06:38
stevowhat video card do you use06:39
Roasted9600 GT06:39
jussi01Roasted: usually its that they default to the currently focused screen06:39
stevoHEY SAME HERE06:39
Roastedjussi01 - thats what I thought too06:39
Roastedbut ALL windows go there unless I quick click before the application launches06:39
Roastedoh wait06:39
Roasted..........06:39
stevo.......06:40
Roastedokay that problem is solved lol06:40
stevoYAY06:40
stevo:)06:40
stevowhat did you do?06:40
RoastedI just gotta make sure the window I want it to open in is the last one I clicked in06:40
RoastedI wasnt doing that06:40
Roastedproperly, at least06:41
stevodo you like games?06:41
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jussi01stevo: if you just want to chat, please use #kubuntu-offtopic06:47
stevojussi01 I just wanted to reccommend some KDE games to roasted, cuz he is a kubuntu user now06:48
Roastedas if it makes a difference at this hour06:48
stevou are a he, right06:48
stevo*_*06:48
Roastedme?06:49
stevoyes06:49
Roastedyes06:49
stevowhew06:49
stevoneed any more help?06:49
Roastednaw Im aight - just settin up my samba server on kubuntu now06:49
stevoI went thru about every single error installing kubuntu06:50
Roastedstevo do you run virtualbox?06:50
stevono06:51
snarksterwhere do i get the handbook for ktorrent?07:12
jacquesdupontdhey07:13
snarksterits for horses07:13
jacquesdupontdi have a question07:13
snarksterthe answer is 1207:13
snarksterwell whats the question07:14
snarksterjust leaves us hangin there. LOL07:14
snarksterIm on the edge of my seat with anticipation07:14
jacquesdupontdi just bought an asus m60k intel core i7 4gig ddr3 and 1 terra 5400t/min and there's a second place for another hard disk do you think i could buy an ssd hard disk ?07:14
snarksteryes07:15
jacquesdupontdi think it should work cause it says its 2.507:15
jacquesdupontdata 207:15
snarksteryou do have a small problem tho07:15
jacquesdupontdomg the difference could be amazing07:15
jacquesdupontdi think a 64 gb should do the trick07:16
snarksterlogically if you have 1 terrabyte of storage, means you need another terrabyte to backup on07:16
snarksteryes that would work wonders07:16
jacquesdupontdhehe no cause first in fact it's 2 320 that i have07:16
jacquesdupontdor 36007:16
snarksteroh so its not a terrabyte then07:16
jacquesdupontdand also it's seperated in 6 partitions so i don't need a big backup07:17
snarksterok07:17
snarkstersounds like you have it all worked out07:17
jacquesdupontdi could only install os's on the ssd and apps and data on the already installed hard disk no ?07:17
snarksteryes07:17
snarksterbut 64 gigs for booting?07:17
snarksterssd drives have a short lifespan dont they? well shorter than manetic media07:18
jacquesdupontdand could you tell me how can big is the difference between a 5400t/min and this ssd i've seen that read at 100 mb/s and 80 to write ?07:18
snarkstersounds about right07:18
snarksterthe only ssd Ive used is my dell mini.07:18
jacquesdupontd64 gigs cause i plan to install few os's on it and also my basic apps of music creating07:19
snarksterand its slow07:19
mefisto__is amarok supposed to play audio cds in kubuntu?07:19
jacquesdupontdand maybe my prefered games07:19
jacquesdupontdssd is a lot lot lot faster than an usual hard disk no ? could you tell me the speed of a 5400t/min ?07:19
snarksterno i cant. As I have already stated the only experience I have with SSD is my dell mini which is slow07:20
jacquesdupontdreally weird i'm not the only one to read how fast it supposed to be no ?07:21
snarkster<shrug> no clue man07:22
macoit depends on the SSD07:22
jacquesdupontdgonna show you it07:22
macomany are very fast for sequential access, which is great for benchmarking!07:22
snarksterthere ya go.. someone who knows07:22
maco....but is the same condition as normal hard disks07:22
maconot all SSDs are really fast for random access07:22
jacquesdupontdhttp://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00090990.html07:23
macoi recall Linus making a blog post about this07:23
snarksterjacquesdupontd: that website isnt in english.. sorry07:23
jacquesdupontdis it better to buy an sdd hard disk or sd card that i would put in the slot ?07:24
snarksterdoes anyone know what leechers: 54 (259) means in the ()07:24
jacquesdupontdbut you can see the name of the hard disk translate or see the performances07:24
snarksteri could. ;)07:24
mefisto__how do I play audiocds in amarok?07:25
macomefisto__: in 9.04? you dont.07:25
macoin 9.10 it has tht feature07:25
snarkstermefisto__: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ&ei=X4oLS-qiMYb_nAeZ0KnTAw&sa=X&oi=nshc&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAkQzgQoAA&usg=AFQjCNHrC24cc-hrFwPPBtAGpp0kYSGJWQ07:25
mefisto__I have 9.10. how is it supposed to work?07:26
snarkstergoogle is your friend07:26
jacquesdupontdhttp://translate.google.fr/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ldlc.com%2Ffiche%2FPB00090990.html&sl=fr&tl=en07:26
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mefisto__snarkster: but http://amarok.kde.org/ says "Insert an Audio CD and it will show up in the Collection Browser, allowing you to play directly from the CD or to copy the CD content to your collection."07:27
macoAudio CD should just show up on the left07:27
macoright above where it says "Local Collectin"07:27
snarksterwonder if it converts to mp3 when copying to your collection??07:28
mefisto__maco: and amarok in karmic should be version 2.2.0 correct?07:28
macoyes07:28
macoim looking at it right now07:28
macosnarkster: it asks what format you want to use07:28
snarksterawesome Im chack that out07:29
snarkstercheck even07:29
macoyou can also go Amarok -> Play Media, and choose your CD on the left side of the Open dialog07:29
snarksterjacquesdupontd: very nice07:29
jacquesdupontdreally ? so i just go to buy it directly today snarkster ?07:30
snarksterim not telling you to do that.. thats a decision youll have to make on your own07:31
snarksteri just put a cd in my machine, and it even brought up the cd title, and the track names07:31
mefisto__maco: when I try from the menu, a box comes up saying "could not read ."07:31
macomefisto__: umm is your drive or the cd bad?07:33
snarksterthat is way cool...07:34
mefisto__maco: plays fine in vlc07:34
macomefisto__: O_o thats a little odd. please file a bug07:34
snarksterencoding the entire album07:34
snarkstervery sweet indeedy07:34
mefisto__maco: and nothing appears above local music either07:34
snarkstershuld appear above local collection07:35
macoit shouldve automatically appeared at the top of the left sidebar. if it didnt: bug07:35
snarkstermaybe you need to mount the cd??07:35
mefisto__ok, got it to appear above local connection now, but it says 0 tracks07:36
mefisto__after restarting amarok07:37
snarksterits looking for informationm07:37
snarkstergive it a sec.07:37
snarkstertook mine a sec to show up as well.07:37
mefisto__does the cd mountpoint need to be added in amarok's collection settings?07:38
jacquesdupontdhey how do i mount an .iso file in kubuntu is there a native soft ?07:40
snarksterjacquesdupontd: sudo mkdir /media/iso && sudo mount -t iso9660 /isofile /media/iso07:42
jacquesdupontdwas thiniking about that wanted anothe solution but thx a lot that'll do the trick07:42
snarkstermefisto__: still not working?07:42
snarksteris this a commercially made cd?07:43
snarksteror a burned cd from a friend07:43
mefisto__commercially made, still 0 tracks. tried dragging the whole CD to playlist, nothing07:43
snarksterit could still be looking for information07:44
mefisto__snarkster: so when you said it took a while, do you mean it took some time to find all the tracks and display them on the left under the CD icon?07:45
snarksteryes sir07:48
snarksteri just encoded the guess who greatest hits vol 207:48
snarksterold cd07:48
mefisto__snarkster: aren't you glad I came in here and asked about it? :)07:52
stevoyou should use k3m and rip them off of it07:52
mefisto__k3m or k3b?07:53
stevowhoops07:53
stevok3b07:53
Anubishi there07:53
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stevohello07:54
Freyri have a little problem with my sound card after an updated that included the kernel07:54
snarksterwell if amarok cant do it k3b should have no problem07:54
stevodid you update with the 9.1007:54
Freyri cant hear anything on my linux box07:54
snarksterok guys its 2am here.. I gotta hit the hay.07:55
stevofreyr, is this from a 9.10 update?07:55
Freyrstevo: yes07:55
stevowhat is your sound card, lemme guess... creative?07:56
Skrot-hi, my kubuntu (9.10) was apparently installed with some encryptfs or something on $HOME. It seems to be crashing my X-session from time to time, so is there any way to disable it?07:57
mefisto__ok, some progress, but still can't figure what's wrong. I put the cd in the 2nd drive (/dev/sr1) and tracks show up and play07:57
Freyrafter reboot a window appeared that asked me if i want to delete or something like that some sound devices. i answered no.07:57
stevofreyr, what brand is it07:58
Freyrstevo: no, it's not creative. it's the sound card from the motherboard07:58
stevoAC'9707:58
Freyr00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)07:58
mefisto__Freyr: did you change any bios settings?07:58
Freyrmefisto_: no, i didnt change anything07:59
stevoDoes it have a digital input or output07:59
mefisto__Freyr: I get that message when I disable audio in bios in some way. KDE detects that hardware has changed and asks if you want it to "forget" the hardware that was previously there08:00
stevoif it has digital, try to find a switch, and mute the digital08:01
stevothat is all I got08:01
stevobye08:01
sharpen047could someone help me with wine sound? i can get sound for an intro, but not after that, only been this way since the removal of pulseaudio08:01
Freyri didnt changed nothing in my BIOS. i just rebooted after the update08:01
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Freyrwell guys i rebooted and the sound is working again.08:07
Freyrstill, dont know the cause08:07
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Hajislt tt le monde08:09
sharpen047could someone help me with wine sound? i can get sound for an intro, but not after that, only been this way since the removal of pulseaudio08:09
mefisto__ok, problem solved if anyone's curious: /dev/cdrom was symlinked to /dev/sr1 and /dev/cdrom1 to /dev/sr0. after symlinking cdrom > sr0 and cdrom1 > sr1 everything worked08:11
Hajicould someone help me.  I need a Detailed documentation of the couchdb08:12
mefisto__is that a bug I should file? and if so, what does the bug belong to? not really amarok's fault08:12
jarlHi there. My KMail wants to open PDF attachments with acroreader, but I would like to configure kmail to use okular. Can anybody help?08:24
jarlI figured it out, it's a KDE configuration I entered system settings->file associations, and changed the setting for pdf files. Thanks anyway...08:26
mefisto__Haji: http://couchdb.apache.org/docs/index.html08:30
Hajithank you (mefisto), I have already visited this site I need to manipulate couchDB with jquery08:32
umbrinhello everyone08:44
elarguspakage manager can't connect to the internet08:48
elargushelp please08:48
elarguspakage manager can't connect to the internet08:51
elargushelp please08:51
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elargus#kubuntu08:54
volodyahi. I have knotify4 process eating one core constantly, kubuntu 9.10. Is this a known issue?08:54
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sugraleKubuntu package manager can't connect to the internet, help please08:57
mefisto__sugrale: have you tried changing download sources?09:03
sugraleyes09:04
sugraleI can see on the terminal that it does not even resolve the name09:04
mefisto__sugrale: ping google.com ?09:05
sugraleI get this09:05
sugraleConnecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)09:05
sugraleI can ping09:05
mefisto__ping archive.ubuntu.com ?09:06
sugraleand get replies... At first I had to disable ipv6 which I think I did since all my apps work fine one the internet09:06
sugralethe ping to archive.ubuntu.com gives me replies09:07
sharpen047can someone help me with sound? its not letting me use amarok and wine at the same time09:09
mefisto__sugrale: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-654052.html09:10
sharpen047can someone help me with sound? its not letting me use amarok and wine at the same time09:12
sugralemefisto_; I did that still I can't update or install any software09:15
Kendaleighamefisto_; I did that still I can't update or install any software09:15
AzzmodanHow do I disable the screensaver in kde4? I disabled the screensaver, disabled power management's "dim screen" and still it is blanking the monitor09:18
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mefisto__Azzmodan: is it a laptop? did you check the various profiles in power management? also, each profile has sections: actions, screen, cpu and system09:28
Azzmodanmefisto__, no, and I did disable them in every profile just in case09:30
mefisto__Azzmodan: maybe BIOS settings are switching monitor off? is it switching off power, or just blanking the screen and staying on?09:31
Azzmodanblanking and staying on, shouldn't be the bios or anything since I never had this issue in gnome09:32
AzzmodanI have to leave now, thanks for trying to think with me. I'll give it another shot tonight.09:33
rethuson suse i use vi on konsole... and if i press i into an open file, i get into the edit mode... that doesn't work on ubuntu.. why?09:39
rethusand if i press the cursor arrow-keys, he write a D09:40
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sharpen047any devs here?10:44
jwxbug nevermind11:27
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sandman667Moinmoin..12:19
sandman667ich habe ein kleines Problem mit dem 'Network Manager'.. obwohl ich eine drahtverbindung auf eine Feste IP konfiguriert habe (funktioniert auch), und der Haken bei 'Autmatisch verbinden' gesetzt ist, holt das blöde Ding sowohl beim booten wie auch beim erwachen aus Hibernate eine IP per DHCP und nennt das dann 'Auto eth0'12:21
sandman667wie krieg ich ihn dazu, das zu unterlassen?12:22
sandman667will ihn nicht ganz abschalten, da ich einen Network manager für WLAN-Sachen nutzen will..12:22
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rork!de | sandman66712:24
ubottusandman667: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.12:25
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sandman667I've got a small problem with Network Manager.. I've set up a connection using a fixed IP (works, too), 'Connect automatically' is set, but the little shit always gets an IP by dhcp (boot as well as waking up from hibernate) an calls this connection 'auto eth0'12:30
sandman667how do I get it not to do this?12:30
sandman667I don't want to switch it off, cause I want to use some kind of manager for WLAN things..12:30
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tzangerhmm, k3b says it can't find any cd or cdrom devices. /dev/dvd is a link to /dev/sr0 just like it always was, and cdrecord works fine on its own. This is a 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade... any ideas?12:34
shadeslayerany idea if there is a PPA for kde 4.4 ?12:34
ghostcubetzanger: you checked the settings for k3b inside systemsettings12:44
ghostcube?12:44
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BluesKajhiyas all13:07
crayfishAnyone used Karmic with the K3760 (Vodafone) USB modem?13:41
tzangerghostcube: yes, it simply can't find any removable devices that look like burners13:42
tzangerthe burner works great with cdrecord fromt he command line, I can use eject, read CDs/DVDs... it's weird. k3b did work fine on this machine with 9.04.13:42
ghostcubetzanger: the systemsettings part for k3b is to set the ownership of the files correct13:43
ghostcubeyou did this?13:43
ghostcubenot the k3b settings the kde systemsettings >> k3b13:43
tzangerwtf13:44
tzangernow it's working13:44
tzangerI didn't change a thing13:44
tzangerthat's *weird*13:44
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alessandro_!list14:10
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relicahi14:33
mankirato.,o14:40
poyntzhi folks14:54
poyntzdragon player, no video, no sound - help please!14:54
poyntzi've installed the kubuntu restricted extras as well14:54
poyntzbut it didn't do anything14:55
poyntzi've also purged it and reinstalled14:55
poyntzwhich also didn't do anything14:55
poyntzwithout and settings it makes it hard to fix the issue14:56
poyntzno way for me to select xine,gstreamer etc as a backend14:56
poyntz(if there is please let me know how to do it)14:56
poyntzI'm on KDE 4.3.214:57
wrgbpoyntz: Look in System Settings > Multimedia14:59
poyntzwrgb: sorry, i don't understand. I can launch dragon player, only when i launch it there's no video or sound14:59
poyntzalso if I launch "dragon" from konsole, and select a file to play the same results (and there's no output in konsole)15:00
poyntz--makes the issue really hard to solve...15:00
poyntzwhen it plays the progress bar goes across the screen15:02
poyntzbut nothing else happens15:02
wrgbyou ca set the backend by going to K-Menu > Applications > Settings > System Settings > Multimedia15:02
poyntzand when it finishes it stuffs up the kde desktop15:02
poyntzwrgb: not on mine :/15:03
poyntzi can go KMenu > Settings, or KMenu > Multimedia15:03
poyntzoh wait15:04
poyntzscrap that15:04
poyntzi see what you mean15:04
poyntz(it's a little bit different on my kde version)15:04
wrgbpoyntz: i'm on 9.1015:05
gaelfxwhat console command can I use to establish a wi-fi connection?15:05
poyntzwrgb: I can promise you it's different on my version, i'm on kde 4.3.2, ubuntu 9.10, using the classic kmenu15:06
poyntzwrgb: if you're using the kickoff kmenu that might explain it15:06
poyntzwrgb: anyhow, I've got two HDA Intel (Conexant Analog)s15:06
poyntz- should I delete one?15:06
poyntz(the one that doesn't work)15:07
poyntzthat could be what's confusing dragon15:07
poyntzwrgb: actually, that's not backend. i'll fiddle with the backend settings, sorry15:08
wrgbpoyntz: do you have pulseaudio too?15:08
poyntzwrgb: yeh15:08
poyntzwrgb: well it's on the xine backend15:08
poyntzwrgb: but xine has been working for mplayer and vlc15:08
poyntz(if this is the universal backend used by everything)15:09
poyntzwrgb: the difference is that i used mplayer and vlc before i installed kubuntu-desktop15:09
poyntzwrgb: dragon came with kubuntu-desktop, which might be the problem15:09
wrgbpoyntz: yeah, it is -- what format is the video file?15:10
poyntzwrgb: as in, vlc and mplayer might be using the old backend15:10
poyntzwrgb: ogv15:10
ubsafderhello15:10
poyntzhi ubsafder15:10
wrgbpoyntz: yeah, you're probably right - they're using the GDM settings15:10
wrgbpoyntz: installing the Medibuntu codecs might help15:11
ubsafdertrying to use wget to make a http resquest with 2 parameters i tried http://je-resous.fr/NSLU2/main-3.php?param1=1&param2=2 doesn't go thru15:12
poyntzwrgb: well changing the backend from xine to gstreamer didn't do anything :/. i'll try getting the codecs..15:12
ubsafderi mean i tried wget with that url with is my app15:12
ubsafderlooks like it works if i have only one paramter but not 2 any idea ?15:13
gaelfxWhat command can I use to establish a wi-fi connection?15:14
wrgbubsafder: try typing man wget in a terminal window15:15
poyntzwrgb: i think i've got them all installed already - prob why mplayer and vlc work15:17
ubsafderhave been there but that doesn't explain or i too dumb for that15:18
wrgbubsafder: sorry, then I'm not handy with wget15:18
wrgbpoyntz: you might try deleting one of Intel Conexant analogs -- my config only has one Intel shown under video in multimedia settings15:20
gaelfxdoes anyone know a console command to connect to a wireless network?15:20
poyntzwrgb: couldnt figure out how to do that :/15:22
wrgbpoyntz: then try changing the order they're used in by dragging the first one and dropping it below the second one15:23
Pici2215:23
ubsafderanyone knows how can get a web page from the comand line looking for some like wget but different  ?15:24
poyntzwrgb: i did that15:29
BluesKajubsafder:  what's wrong with wget?15:32
poyntzwrgb: thanks for your help anyhow15:34
poyntzciao folks15:34
crayfishubsafder: +1 to "whats wrong with wget" - but if for some reason you want another tool - you could use lynx --source http://blah > file, or write a small script using LWP::UserAgent in Perl15:35
wrgbpoyntz: np15:35
ubsafdercrayfish: i like the perl agent thanks goin to look into it15:36
alba_6_6hello15:40
signoshi15:41
alba_6_6just testing... ubuntu karmic15:41
alba_6_6thnx15:41
signosme 215:41
alba_6_6nice15:41
alba_6_6u like karmic so far?15:42
bradpittlove it :)15:43
falktxhm...15:49
falktxis it just me or firefox is crashing all the time?15:49
forge_probably just you... ???15:52
falktxi guess15:53
falktxit must be the firefox-kde thing15:53
aicramHello everyone.I cannot shutdown my kubuntu properly. I choose leave it logs out but no way to shut it down. Thanks.16:04
falktxsudo poweroff16:04
aicramThank you. I will do that.16:04
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kiraitachiwhats up16:21
syonhi16:22
syondoes anyone else except me notice that the task bar is somewhat broken in KDE 4.3?16:22
syonI seem to have an empty entry (one that takes up space, but does not contain a window) on the very left and a window that is actually not running anymore in there, too.16:23
syonall those entries are gone after killing and restarting plasma-desktop16:27
alxhi there! after kubuntu karmic install, my pc always boots gnome... (no loginscreen where i can specify to run kde environment) when i try to konfigure gdm it tells me its not running.. what can i do?16:33
Lynceusalx: maybe you have to configure kdm...16:36
Lynceusor just log out16:36
alxhow can i can i configure it from gnome?16:37
alxwhen i log out i get a black screen16:37
alxnothing happens16:37
ghostcubealx have you checked kdm is installed so far ?16:39
Lynceussudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm16:41
alxghostcube yes it is installed16:41
alxi just did that lynceus, gonna reboot now16:42
alx_gnaaah, back on gnome desktop again16:45
ghostcubesudo apt-get remove gdm ?16:46
alx_i'm trying to find out how to disable automatic login16:46
ghostcubeyou should be able sto do16:46
alx_ghostcube i already reinstalled gdm, same thing afterwards16:46
ghostcubesudo service gdm stop16:46
ghostcubesudo service kdm stop16:46
ghostcubesudo service kdm start16:46
ghostcubenot reinstall uninstall16:46
alx_ok16:46
ghostcubehmm have i should mention not to do it in x16:47
ghostcubedamn16:47
Lynceusgksudo gdmsetup16:48
Lynceusthere you can disable autologin16:48
jtholmesanyone know what double layer dvd burner works well on 9.10 K3b16:51
ghostcubebbl16:51
alx_hm after i typed "sudo service kdm stop" i had a fullscreen bash, but "sudo service kdm start" had no effect.. i have kdm installed (just double checked it)16:51
BluesKajalx_, try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start16:53
falktxi think this issue should be fixed16:54
falktxcause lots of people have this issue16:54
alx_BluesKaj hmm... it says kdm already running16:54
falktxinstalling gnome stuff may cause gdm to install16:54
BluesKajalx_, also you need to be at a tty to run those commands16:54
alx_tty?16:55
falktxsudo killall Xorg16:55
falktxsudo killall gdm16:55
falktxsudo kdm16:55
alx_ok gonna try that16:55
falktxthat works for me16:55
BluesKajalx_, then do, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop , then start16:55
BluesKaj!works for me | falktx16:56
ubottufalktx: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.16:56
BluesKajanyway , time for my daily walk16:58
BluesKajBBL16:58
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falktxnot sure i get the point16:59
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alxhm blueskaj and falktx after "killall Xorg" i got black screen and then (gnome) desktop back. after killall gdm i got back to the fullscreenbash where i could read what probably are message before boot: it said "not starting gdm bcause its not default... starting kdm.. (and some more kde services)" the terminal didnt react to any of my commands....17:09
alxis it possible that kde is already running (kde apps look like they should!) but for some reason the kde-menues and bars are replaced by gnome's?17:10
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krasimirопа17:50
chaituGreetings All. I've installed new themes from desktop settings --> new themes. However, I'm unable to apply the themes as I don't see them in the drop down menu. Can someone help me please? Thanks17:52
ForgeAuslol I don't believe I was just about to tell you to get your uxtheme.dll patched! rofl - windows solution ... different problem17:53
chaitu;)17:53
bloodymaybe you downloaded it for the wrong kde version oô dunno if 3 themes are compatible with 4 and vice versa17:54
chaituwell if I see them in the drop down menu, dont you  think the should be compatible?17:54
bloodymhm, sounded like you can't apply AND can't see them in the drop down17:55
chaituno, am talking about drop down menu of the list of themes I can download...17:56
chaituonce I click on new themes it gives me a list from kde.org and am trying to install them by clicking on install button next to them...17:56
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chaituonce Installed I dont see them in the drop down menu of themes of my system...17:56
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ForgeAuschaitu ask in #kde they may be able to help you with this17:58
chaituThanks ForgeAus :)17:58
ixoyc_hello17:58
ForgeAuspersoanlly I don't really know and your right, if the theme isn't compatible it hsouldn't be in the downloaded list...17:58
ForgeAus(I don't think KDE3 themes go in there anyway)17:58
chaituwill try there ForgeAus. Thanks for your time bloody and ForgeAus17:59
KyranBehey17:59
supacat^_^People plz help. Effects in Kubuntu are not appear after reset. Writing that can not use Cube effect. ATI Radeon X1100 (X200m) video card18:00
KyranBeI compiled amarok2.2.1 with libmtp1.0.1 this weekend, because it supports more devices than libmtp0.3.7 (which comes with karmic)18:00
KyranBeI'd like to share this package, so that other people who have a device that's not well supported in the old lib can use it too18:01
KyranBebut I have no idea how I should actually do this18:01
KyranBedoes anybody have any pointers for me?18:04
* ForgeAus tosses KyranBe an address to a variable18:04
KyranBeForgeAus I'm more a java guy ;)18:08
ForgeAus(lol ... couldn't help myself)18:09
KyranBewell, I could just as well drop the deb files on a blog somewhere18:12
KyranBebut it's not really elegant18:12
ForgeAusI think there's a channel something like #ubuntu-dev ???18:13
BluesKajelegance is not necessary if you just need something to work :)18:13
ForgeAusKyran either that or just wait, if theres a newer version it probably just needs to be absorbed into the distro repos...18:14
KyranBewell, it works for me, but I'd like to share it18:14
KyranBeI did some research and apparently because libmtp is in main, there's not a chance it's going to be updated before lucid18:14
KyranBethere's a ppa with the new libmtp version18:15
BluesKajlucid alpha will be out in 2 1/2 wks18:15
KyranBeso I used that18:15
ForgeAussounds like thats your answer then18:15
KyranBebut the apps need to be recompiled in order to use it (no other modification necessary)18:15
KyranBeso I did that for myself too18:15
KyranBenow I'd just like to share that18:15
KyranBebasically18:15
* ForgeAus shrugs18:16
BluesKajstill think "lucid lunatic" is a better handle than the lame "lucid lynx"18:16
KyranBelol18:17
ForgeAuslynx is what they chose?18:17
bloodymhm, when i have installed a program over the packet manager, like gimp, and then download and compile the source code how can i start my compiled version?18:17
ForgeAuswhat is this OSX?18:17
KyranBeyou could argue that a lunatic is some sort of anymal18:17
KyranBeanimal18:17
KyranBeby doing dpkg -i gimp.deb (or whatever it's called)18:17
KyranBethat will overwrite the packet manager install18:17
ForgeAusMacux OSXbuntu - Lucid Lynx lol18:17
BluesKajKyranBe, lets not get too analytical. /..lunatic just sounds  better :)18:18
KyranBeblueskaj it sure does :)18:18
ForgeAusa lucid lunatic sounds... dangerous18:18
KyranBemight not be perfect for a stable release18:18
KyranBethough it sounds perfect for the alpha and beta versions ;)18:19
BluesKajI sent a suggestion to Mark Shuttleworth in ubuntu-classroom but he wasn't impressed18:19
BluesKajno imagination or daring :)18:20
ForgeAusKyran, wouldn't an update like that be a backport to Karmic eventually anyway?18:21
BluesKajthe OT cops will be here soon18:21
KyranBeForgeAus I don't know actually18:21
KyranBeI have very little knowledge on how ubuntu decides to do it's updates18:21
BluesKaji guess one can make suggestions in launcxhpad or #kubuntu-devel18:22
ubuntuhello18:23
KyranBeI'll check that out18:23
KyranBeIt's a very simple and save fix (I mean if I can do it, ...)18:24
KyranBeanyway pizza's ready, thanks for the help guys18:26
ForgeAusKyranBe as simple as it may be the update cycle mystifies me sometimes ...18:26
bloodymhm, didnt really work, i uninstalled it over KPackageKit (from where i got it) and make installed my source again but it wasn't startable, it said unknown command18:27
SiVA_how do I make it so new files created within a directory inherit the permissions of the parent directory?18:29
ShaxorHay there people, Okay heres the question, How do I get Compiz to run right with out it fighting with Kwin. When I try to set Compiz as my default Windows Manager It seems to clash with Kwin  even tho I have KWin turned off It still trys to run, What am I doing Wrong?18:38
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Guest89074hi18:40
ShaxorHay there people, Okay heres the question, How do I get Compiz to run right with out it fighting with Kwin. When I try to set Compiz as my default Windows Manager It seems to clash with Kwin  even tho I have KWin turned off It still trys to run, What am I doing Wrong?18:40
Guest89074I dont know about that shax, total nub here :)18:42
Guest89074i see lots of people, no talkers!18:42
BluesKajShaxor, how are you setting compiz as default?18:42
Shaxor><18:42
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ShaxorI go in to Default Applications and change the window Manager to Compiz18:43
shawnzerwhats a good irc program to use, user friendly?18:45
ShaxorThen after swiching it, It tells me I have to reboot, So I do, after rebooting, Thats when Kwin turns back on And seems to fight with Compiz18:45
manikohello, how can I set sound to work fine. I have SB live 5.1 but not work. Only 2.ch. stereo. Im new on UBUNTU. Tnx. from Serbia18:47
AlexZionHi everyone, I have Installed QT Creator on my Kubuntu Karmic system , but I can't even compile the example files exit with code 5 , someone can help me ?18:52
jimmy51_hello all.  i've got a 9.10 fresh install and really like the unified notification thing in the task bar.  it looks like an envelope that lights up with something has a notification.  on my home systems, i did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and don't see the envolope.  why not?19:02
jimmy51_is that just a widget?19:05
Trudellhi all19:18
TrudellI'm here again :-P19:18
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doleybIs there a simple way to disable KDE/powerdevil from controlling the power management / cpu speed ?19:19
Trudellpowerdevil?? lol19:19
diakhalwhere can i have a chart in french please!!!!19:20
Trudelldoleyb --> system services then powerdnow19:21
Trudellsorry, powernowd19:21
doleybTrudell: and that will turn off the normal kde power control?19:22
Trudellyes, but have you certain that decision?19:23
doleybTrudell: I see PowerDevil in KDE Services Configuration, not powernowd.19:23
Trudellreally??? i thought was a joke19:24
doleybTrudell: Well the reason I wanted to turn off PowerDevil was to make sure it wasn't interfering with powernowd... because I'm trying to get cpu frequency scaling to function.19:24
doleybTrudell: It used to function before karmic, but now won't do anything, and I'm stuck at 800mhz instead of 1800mhz.19:24
Trudellare you using notebook?19:24
doleybTrudell: yes, amd64 acer laptop.19:25
Trudelloh, now i understood19:25
Trudelljust a moment, i will find a solution to you19:25
Trudelldo you want to manage cpu trought the powermanagemente, isnt?19:26
BluesKajdoleyb, you can do, sudo apt-get remove powernowd19:26
BluesKajor tunoff the powerdevil in system settings/advanced/services19:27
doleybBluesKaj: powernowd and powerdevil are different things.19:27
Trudellbetter blueskaj alternative19:28
doleybTrudell: I would prefer power management via the KDE settings, like used to work in 9.04.  But I'd settle for anything that lets me get the speed above 800 mhz.  Here's a paste showing my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/326302/19:28
Trudellor uninstall powerdevil and install powernowd19:28
BluesKajdoleyb, they do the same thing as far as the cpu is concerned19:29
Trudellabove 800?19:29
Trudellare you sure that you want it?19:29
doleybTrudell: This cpu does 800, 1600, or 1800 mhz, and I'd like to get above 800.  In 9.04 that would happen automatically, but now I haven't been able to make it do that.19:29
BluesKajdoleyb,, then install cpufrequtils19:30
doleybBluesKaj: I have cpufrequtils, what next?19:30
BluesKajdoleyb, sudo /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -g performance19:31
doleybBluesKaj: Ok, I can set the governor to performance, but that doesn't help.  The max speed is still 800.19:32
BluesKajdoleyb, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz ..it might be misreading the speed19:33
doleybcpu MHz         : 800.00019:34
BluesKajdoleyb, hmm i wonder if a reboot might be in order19:35
doleybOk, I'll try rebooting and come back.. it's an unhappy day when linux problems need a reboot though...19:35
Trudelllmao19:36
Trudellblkueskaj, have you ever any doubt about kubuntu s**ts?19:36
BluesKajwell, the kernel module could be the culprit so a reboot is sometimes the only way19:36
Trudellwe need turn better kubuntu distro19:37
Trudellkubuntu can't folling down19:37
Trudellfall19:38
BluesKajTrudell, it's still the best linux distrom in my experience , if you want then go install something else but we don't ditro trolls in here19:38
Trudelli'm not troilling19:38
BluesKajyou tried to pull this crap before , don't start again19:39
Trudelli'm just express my opinion19:39
Trudellmy user opinion19:39
BluesKajit's not needed , we ppl to help not nbe critical19:39
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BluesKajneed19:39
Trudellkaj, let me say onething19:39
Trudellkubuntu needs reformulation19:40
Trudellto be better19:40
BluesKajtime to go the mail ,bbin 10 mins19:40
Trudellkubuntu is better distro then ubuntu, in my opinion19:40
Trudelland must be the best distro of all linux distro19:41
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Trudellkubuntu untill is the most easy distro to manage19:41
Trudelldont you agree my opinion?19:42
Trudellwell, some problems need to be repared19:42
Trudellwell, some problems needs rapairs19:42
Trudellwell, doleyb... sucessfull?19:43
doleybTrudell: oh i'll go look and see, need to compile something maybe19:43
Trudelllmao19:43
Trudelllmao?19:43
Trudelldo you see it blueskaj?19:44
doleybTrudell: now I'm having a different kind of problem, konsole freezing up (which I've seen before a bit, only after getting karmic)19:45
doleybSo that's delaying seeing the speed.19:46
gabrielgomezhello19:48
doleybCan't even type in a terminal... konsole, rxvt, gnome-terminal all don't respond.  irc and firefox is ok.. oh this is so bad.19:48
Trudelldo you see it bluekaj?19:48
Trudellkarmic kernel s**ts19:48
jimmy51_is there a UI based way to enable remote desktop access in 9.10?19:48
doleybkarmic kernel whats?!  What does that mean?19:49
Trudelldoleyb,downgrade to jaunty until this problem be solved19:49
doleybTrudell: ok, i've been thinking of doing that.  But the documents say "downgrading is officially not supported", so I'm a little scared.19:50
Trudelli think that could be a better solution for this moment19:50
Trudellwell, force it19:50
doleybTrudell: or more accurately, I am lazy and downgrading looks like it'll be effort.19:50
Trudellwell 800mHz is good19:50
BluesKajTrudell, telling ppl to downgrade isn't a solution to problems19:51
Trudellabove then 800 MHz is so poor19:51
Trudellwell blueskaj, karmic kernel have a lot of bugs19:51
Trudellwhat are your solution for this19:51
^kenhoob-it1hello19:52
Trudelli cant see a other solution19:52
^kenhoob-it1how add ratings to kde downloaded wallpapers?19:52
BluesKajdoleyb, which cpu ?19:52
Trudellto me it was necessary19:52
Trudellamd6419:52
doleybBluesKaj: i have amd64 athlon2, dual core.19:52
Trudellits a good cpou19:52
Trudellamd64 dual is better than pentium 4 dual19:53
BluesKaj64bit?19:53
BluesKajok, did you install kubuntu amd64 /19:53
doleybBluesKaj: yes this is 64 distrib and cpu.19:53
doleybBluesKaj: Yes this is the 64 bit distrib.19:54
Trudelldoleyb, thi to install debian sid kernel19:54
Trudelldoleyb, try to install debian sid kernel19:55
doleybTrudell: you mean grab a deb file from debian's unstable and force installing it here?19:56
BluesKajstrange because , I have an older model amd64 and I'm running amd64 kubuntu no cpu stepping probs . I wonder about the kernel module for your cpu ..it seems to be the wrong one19:56
doleybBluesKaj: What module do you use?  It looks like mine is powernow-k819:57
BluesKajdoleyb, let me check19:57
Trudellmine is generic powernowd19:58
Trudellwell, if not sid, use lenny19:58
doleybYou think the kernel module package is pretty interchangable?19:59
Trudellin topic i was oriented to downgrade my karmic kernel19:59
Trudellso use lenny19:59
Trudelldebian and ubuntu are compatibles19:59
doleybBtw, a few years ago I used sid as a desktop distro, but that was when I had more time to keep aware of whether packages were broken before upgrading... kubuntu was the choice to avoid that effort.20:00
Trudellthe debian's kernel runs better20:00
doleybDo you know if there are ubuntu bug reports relating to kernel that are known problems?20:01
Trudellwell, use only kernel from debian20:01
Trudellyou can do manual instalation20:01
Trudellmodule-assistant runs in debian20:02
Trudellsure20:02
Trudellkarmic have a lot of problems20:02
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doleybIs there a web page which talks about these problems, a forum thing or bug-query thing? wiki maybe?20:04
BluesKajdoleyb, I forgot, removed powernowd20:05
BluesKajpowerdevil is the replacement , I think20:05
doleybBluesKaj: Sure I'll try that, but these other problems are rather bigger.  Lacking a command line is a huge obstacle..20:06
BluesKajno terminal ?20:07
Trudellblueskaj what problem in use daemon not devil?20:07
Trudellwhy devil?20:08
Trudelldaemons is a name more beauty than devil20:09
noaXess1hu20:09
Trudelldevil remember satan20:09
* BluesKaj shrugs20:10
doleybBluesKaj: After rebooting I cannot type in konsole, gnome-terminal, rxvt, or control-f120:10
BluesKajdoleyb, ctrl+alt+f1 for the cli, ctrl+alt+f7 to relaunch the desktop20:12
doleybBluesKaj: those keystrokes have no effect.20:12
BluesKajdon't use the+20:13
doleybuh huh.20:14
doleybSo if control-alt-f1 doesn't work, things are pretty thoroughly wrecked?20:15
BluesKajok, doleyb there is one thing you can do try this : http://pastebin.ca/168590620:16
BluesKajyou probly need to do a reinstall20:16
noaXess!webcam20:17
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras20:17
doleybyep I guess I will reinstall!  great fun... bye guys!20:17
Trudelldoleyb, have you enter in level 1 without kdm or gdm?20:18
Trudellhave you trouble to acess terminal?20:19
doleybTrudell: presently I cannot get to console, or type in konsole, xterm, gnome-terminal, etc.20:21
noaXessis there a kde tool to mount my second sata hd instead of do that manually over /etc/fstab?20:21
Trudellare you using ext3?20:23
Trudellhave anyone a solution to install nvidia 96 driver in karmic?20:26
bodomnoaXess: when you connect it, it should be noticed on recently connected defices, in the trasy bar, bottom-right, near the clock20:27
BluesKajnoaXess, can you see it in dolphin as a volume in places?20:27
Trudelldebian have a more stables kernel20:27
Trudelland more options too20:28
noaXessitŝ a internal sata hd on /dev/sdb, have created a ext4 part and formatet it with mkfs.ext4..20:28
Trudellhave anyone a solution to install nvidia 96 driver in karmic?20:28
noaXesscan see it in dolphin as volume (ext4)20:28
noaXessnow i want automount it on boot, cause i want place all my data on it.20:28
Trudellhave anyone a solution to install nvidia 96 driver in karmic?20:29
Trudellblueskaj https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/39176820:31
BluesKajyeah Trudell , http://www.pastebin.ca/168592820:32
TrudellDoes anyone knows if 78 driver runs with a GeForce 2 MX in Karmic?20:32
TrudellKaj, do you know if 78 runs with GF2MX in Karmic?20:33
BluesKajTrudell, type i synaptic to see if it's listed GeForce 2 MX20:34
Trudellalright kaj20:35
Trudellkaj, no results20:36
BluesKajnot listed ?20:37
anoneemousehi. im trying to load a php site on lamp but whenever i go to the php url it just downloads the file. running the command to enable php gives me the following message: "Module php5 already enabled"20:38
anoneemousei used tasksel to install lamp20:38
Trudellyeah, 96 and 71 runs with GeForce 2 MX20:38
noaXessups.. had no conection20:38
Trudellbut only for 2.6.24 kernels20:39
noaXessso.. my /dev/sdb1 ext4 partition i can see in dolphin..20:39
noaXesscan click on it, but not write on it.. i want it automatically mount on system start, cause i want place my dataŝ on it..20:39
noaXesshave a notebook with two 500gb hd's :)20:40
BluesKajTrudell, did you stop kdm /X , can't install a driver without removing the existing one20:40
hyperboreeanhey guys, I just got a new laptop and installed karmic koala on it and it doesn't show my wifi card20:41
hyperboreeanwhich is a thinkpad wifi bgn20:41
instigatehave problem updating system doest starts but doesn't finish because of error20:41
hyperboreeanany ideas where I can look for some help?20:41
instigatewhere can i send this error information20:41
noaXesshyperboreean: made all upgrades and run the ap "Hardware Drivers" in kicker?20:42
hyperboreeannoaXess: well I don't have any internet access without the wifi card20:42
hyperboreeanso it's just what the cd installed20:42
Trudellblueskaj, is jaunty stable?20:42
noaXesshyperboreean: now lan access20:42
noaXesscable20:42
hyperboreeannoaXess: I will try the Hardware drivers20:42
hyperboreeannoaXess: no :(20:43
BluesKajnoaXess, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive20:43
noaXessnotebook without lan port or no router with lan20:43
Trudelli havent nvidia driver installed20:43
BluesKajTrudell, karmic i more stable than jaunty20:43
teodorohi, i am new in Kubuntu: there is an kde application to record the desktop?20:43
Trudellbut karmic dont run nvidia20:43
noaXessBluesKaj: so, with /etc/fstab.. ok.. thought that there is a simple kde tool :)20:44
BluesKajTrudell, i have nvidia geforce 7600gt , it runs fine20:44
Trudelli always stop kdm by service kdm stop as descripted in topics20:44
hyperboreeannoaXess: assuming I can get internet access what should I do next?20:45
Trudelland install, but kde apears with a distorted images20:45
BluesKajnoaXess, sorry I don't know of any simple tools :)20:45
noaXesshyperboreean: open konsole and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade20:45
Trudellso why in my system kde run with a distorted images?20:45
noaXesshyperboreean: after a restart eventuall sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:46
BluesKajnoaXess, that command is depracated now20:46
noaXessdist-upgrade?20:46
TrudellIs your 7600gt AGP or PCIe?20:46
noaXesstoday, i installed two new notebooks with karmic.. and on both are linux kernels that are hold back..20:47
macothats fine20:47
noaXessBluesKaj: so i have done a dist-upgrade and voilà20:47
macoit just means the rest of the new kernel's dependencies havent finished being built and published to the repos20:47
BluesKajhyperboreean, in terminal sudo do-release-upgrade20:47
macotheyll probably become available in a few hours or so20:47
Trudellblueskaj, Is your 7600gt AGP or PCIe?20:48
BluesKajnoaXess, do-release-upgrade has replaced dist-upgrade20:48
noaXessBluesKaj: aha.. ok..20:49
BluesKaj Trudell,  pcix20:49
noaXessi have now this in /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1       /home/thomi/Daten       ext4    defaults,errors=remount-rw      0       120:49
noaXessand it won't mount with sudo mount -a i get: EXT4-fs (sdb1): Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rw" or missing value20:50
BluesKajnoaXess, it should automount at bootup , no need to use a command20:51
noaXessBluesKaj: yes but to test.. without boot... it should also moutn or not?20:51
BluesKajnoaXess, , sorry not sure20:52
noaXessBluesKaj: is is ext4 or ext4-dev?20:52
BluesKajext420:52
noaXessok20:53
BluesKajdev is sdX20:53
noaXess/dev/sdb120:53
BluesKajok20:53
noaXessBluesKaj: if i do a sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /home/thomi/Daten it works.. so the options in fstab are wrong/not correct..20:55
BluesKajnoaXess, ok thanks , I'l delete that page from help boofmarks20:56
BluesKajbookmark20:56
BluesKajnoaXess, it's not the first tutorial that worked for me but not others...my 2nd hdd died and I haven't replaced it yet20:57
TrudellBLuesKaj: Does necessary to update kernel after install?21:01
Trudellnot?21:02
BluesKajTrudell, depends how old the version is... just do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade21:02
Trudellalright, thx21:03
TrudellBlues21:06
TrudellBluesKaj: no way dude. Distorted images in KDE.21:07
Trudelland KDE crashes21:07
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TrudellBluesKaj: Well, maybe the way is change the kernel21:09
TrudellBluesKaj: some ideia?21:10
BluesKajwhich kernel are you on?21:10
BluesKajuname -a21:10
Trudelli'm using linux-image-2.6.31-generic21:12
TrudellBluesKaj: i'm using linux-image-2.6.31-generic21:12
BluesKajTrudell,  dunno how to help unless your monitor isn't gvetting the right module21:14
Trudellit's not my monitor, is images21:21
Trudellnvida driver cant display correct images in KDE desktop21:21
aspintoalguém pode me ajudar ?21:23
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BluesKaj!es | aspinto21:24
ubottuaspinto: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:24
aspintocan you help me ?21:25
BluesKaj!ask | aspinto21:26
ubottuaspinto: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:26
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BluesKaj!bug | Trudell21:29
ubottuTrudell: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots21:29
BluesKajaspinto, ?21:30
aspintoim using ubuntu 9.10. The OS not install my webcam21:30
aspintoIm new user in linux21:30
jimmy51_!rdpp21:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rdpp21:31
jimmy51_!rdp21:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rdp21:31
aspintoi dont know how identify the webcam and the drivers21:32
noaXessBluesKaj: have now mounted my sdb1 over fstab.. but can't write on it as normal user.. need i change the perms manually21:34
kerncoI just installed 9.10.  When I try to log in, I get a black and white error box that says "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session." and then I'm back to the kdm login.21:34
BluesKajaspinto, you don't know what model webcam ?21:35
aspintoim using a notebook and it is built in21:35
noaXessaspinto: lsusb in konsole21:36
aspintook wait a minute21:36
Trudellubottu: alright, i need report the bug, right?21:37
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
Trudellhehehe ubottu is a bot21:38
kerncoDid it pass your turing test?21:38
aspintoBus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:624f Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201 + OV9650)21:40
macoTrudell: ban evading, eh?21:40
noaXessaspinto: now.. lsmod | grep video21:40
aspintolsmod21:42
noaXessaspinto: in konsole... lsmod21:45
noaXesslsmod | grep video21:45
aspintoi can see very lines21:45
aspintowhat is important ?21:46
noaXessaspinto: pastebin it.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/21:46
bloodyhello, I'm trying to unpack a lzm file in Kubuntu 9.10 and I don't have an idea how I do that, would anyone be so kind to help me?21:48
bloodyI already tried it with unsquashfs -f *.lzm but it only says something about a missing SUPER block21:49
aspintoi make this and now ?21:50
tsimpsonbloody: try "lzma -d file.lzma"21:50
noaXessaspinto: paste the output of lsmod21:52
rbugmanhey all, how do I modify menu items?? ie.. tvtime --device=/dev/video121:52
noaXess... grrr21:52
bloodythat says unknown suffix tsimpson : (21:52
noaXesslsmod | grep video to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and post the link here21:52
bloodysince 2 ways are failing could it be that the file is broken?21:53
tsimpsonbloody: just rename it to have a ".lzma" extension, or try with "lzma -d -S .lzm file.lzm"21:53
aspintoaspinto@notebook:~$ lsmod|grep video21:54
aspintovideodev               36736  1 gspca_main21:54
aspintov4l1_compat            14496  1 videodev21:54
aspintovideo                  19380  1 i91521:54
aspintooutput                  2780  1 video21:54
FloodBotK3aspinto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:54
aspintoaspinto@notebook:~$21:54
BluesKajbloody, install unp , it's the best uncompress/unpack app21:54
aspintoim sorry21:56
aspintoim learning irc too.21:56
BluesKajthat doesn't tell us which is the camera21:57
BluesKajaspinto, ls -R /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel21:57
BluesKajthat should name the camera module21:58
noaXessaspinto: have you tried cheese to see if your cam works? just install cheese over kpackagekit21:59
BluesKajnoaXess,, don't use the word 'over" it confuses21:59
noaXessBluesKaj: have no mounted my /dev/sdb1 to /home/user/daten... and changed perms on it, so i can write.. now, i see the lost+found folder in /home/user/data.. can i hide it o21:59
noaXessok.. with kpackagekit..22:00
BluesKajnoaXess, dunno, does it matter?22:00
noaXesshm...22:00
SpaceCow56Hello, I'm using the KDE desktop environment in my ubuntu install, and I have been wondering why I've been unable to configure desktop effects in "System Settings --> Desktop Effects." The only place I can alter them is in the "CompizConfig Settings Manager."22:01
ScuniziI have 2 vm's of kubuntu on different machines.. one has icons in the Desktop Folder for /home and Trash.. the other doesn't.. how do I get them there?22:02
BluesKajwell, time to go ..other stuff to do22:03
bloodyok i tried both, unp which failed for me, i tried to find out what to feed it with via --h but i didnt found it out, then i renamed it and unpacked the lzma and the file that came out was empty, the lzma not.22:05
aspintocheese is a video software ?22:10
tsimpson!info cheese22:11
ubottucheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2423 kB, installed size 7144 kB22:11
ErtheAnyone know if there's a package for KDE help system?22:17
aspintocan install with Synaptic ?22:17
ErtheSome of the apps (at the moment Konversation) doesn't have installed help files22:17
ErtheWell I searched Google for a package name (which I always do first) because synaptic search is about as useful22:18
marcaoinstalar cam22:30
dbc254when I open kmail, and there's a url, konqueror opens something in /var/???? instead of the actual url. What's wrong?22:32
subitohi, how can i launch firefox so that the flash app games 'interprets' my keyboard as a qwerty one? i'm on kubuntu 9.1022:33
dbc254/var/tmp/kdecache-dbc254/krun/1866.0.n is what konqueror attempts to open instead of just the url22:33
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hyperboreeanhey,so I have the latest updates ... and my wifi card is still down22:52
dbc254anybody alive in here?22:52
hyperboreeannoaXess: help once again, I have all the updates and still doesn't see my wifi card22:57
aspintohow i installkpackageKit-0.5.2 ?22:58
jtholmeskubuntu 9.10 does not see dvd when inserted into DVD drive any pointers22:58
trudeIIhello here23:00
jtholmesaspinto, apt-get install kpacakgekit  should do it23:00
aspintook. i will try now23:00
Roastedhey guys - question - when I apply themes, it only applies to the panel. I want the theme to take over EVERYTHING like it does in gnome. How can I do that?23:02
aspintoit said that is impossible to found the package23:13
aspintothe folder is correct23:14
trudeIII'm evading with new dodge dakota, the experience in drivin!23:14
gizaspinto: do sudo apt-cache search kpackagekit23:15
ScuniziHow do you get Quassel to rememer to turn off Joins Parts & quits?  it's such a pain to recheck them for all the channels I load..23:16
gizaspinto: the package is there  now    sudo apt-get install kpackagekit23:18
jtholmesaspinto, sudo apt-get install kpackagekit23:19
aspintonothing change23:22
ViaNocturn85hello, i have a dvb which connects on /dev/video0, it is detected on MythTV but not on Kaffeine, anyone know how to change this?23:23
jtholmesaspinto, apt-get update  then  apt-get install ....23:26
aspintodont work23:29
aspintoexit23:32
aspintoi have to go. thank you.23:32
glen__Hi, can someone please tell me a command that finds files recursivly that does not have file extentions jpg, JPG, png, PNG? thanks23:35
jakwould somone mind telling me where I can find the software center (if there is one?) on KDE? =]23:40
jtholmesglen__,  find . -print | egrep -v '{png|jpg|JPG|PNG} should do it23:41
glen__jtholmes: cheers23:44
jtholmessony dru-510a doesnt see blank media  lshw see correct cdrom writer any ideas23:48
jtholmeskarmic 9.10 kubuntu23:48

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