[00:30] <coz_> hey all
[01:18] <darkmatter> heya coz_
[01:18] <coz_> darkmatter, `hey guy :)
[01:19] <darkmatter> coz_: I'm debating dual booting ZevenOS for a proper test drive
[01:20] <coz_> zevenOs?   I will have to google that one :)
[01:20] <coz_> StormOs I am wanting to dual witrh
[01:20] <coz_> with
[01:21] <darkmatter> coz_: ZevenOS is basially a BeOS inspired linux. it looks like Zeta (even has the deskbar, vcards in the 'people' app, etc, but its all gtk with sawfish as a windowmanager
[01:22] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh  I in stalled haiku  a couple weeks ago
[01:23] <darkmatter> coz_: http://www.zevenos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/4058581050_06d3f9e653_o.png
[01:23] <coz_> oh yeah looks just like Be
[01:23] <darkmatter> coz_: I'm waiting for haiku to mature and at least become multiuser first
[01:24] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah its ok.... my old BE machine isnt working but I still miss BeOs   ...haiku is almost identical though
[01:24] <coz_> but the name "haiky" is NOT Be Os
[01:24] <coz_> :)
[01:24] <coz_> haiku
[01:25] <darkmatter> yeah. but it comes from BeOS (I miss Be and its haiku messages)
[01:25] <darkmatter> http://www.zevenos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/4058659684_f3399fc763_o.png <-- needs a better gtk theme though
[01:26] <coz_> nice:)
[01:27] <coz_> that theme isnt too bad
[01:27] <coz_> there are nicer ones though
[01:29] <darkmatter> coz_: I'd use the haiku theme thats on gnome look. has a few bugs but is more 'traditional' for the Be feel
[01:30] <coz_> darkmatter,  mm I didnt see that one ...will have to look later :)
[01:30] <darkmatter> coz_: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Haiku?content=106952
[01:31] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah but the title bar is across the entire window there?
[01:32] <darkmatter> coz_: no. thats metacity. if you use xfwm or sawfish (ala xfce and ZevenOS) you have the yellow tab :D
[01:33] <coz_> oh cool :)
[08:04] <mac_v> zniavre: hi.. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png ;)
[08:17] <zniavre> mac_v, how did you make that ?
[08:18] <mac_v> zniavre: xchat needs you to make a usr/share/xchat/ folder and there you add the .png file :)
[08:19] <mac_v> for some reason , xchat-gnome creates that folder on its own  , but not xchat :/
[08:19] <zniavre> do i need to create the folder if does not exists ?
[08:19] <mac_v> zniavre: it does not exist by default , we need to make one
[08:20] <zniavre> let me try
[08:20] <darkmatter> xchat is a relic. it should be buries in museum storage next to bitchx
[08:21] <darkmatter> buried*
[08:21] <mac_v> zniavre: once you add the  /usr/share/xchat/xchat.png file just restart xchat :)
[08:21] <zniavre> haha   :o)
[08:21] <zniavre> nice
[08:22] <zniavre> thank you
[08:22] <mac_v> zniavre: np :)
[08:22] <zniavre> do you planed to share your icon ?mine is crappy at this moment
[08:22] <mac_v> zniavre: sure , i made it for a dark panel , what kind of panel do you use?
[08:23] <zniavre> dark too
[08:23] <mac_v> great , just a sec
[08:24] <mac_v> zniavre: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/xchat.png
[08:29] <mac_v> darkmatter: what do you use for irc?
[08:30] <darkmatter> mac_v: atm, pidgin. it works well enough, plus it's a single interface instead of Yet Another App (TM)
[08:31] <darkmatter> I used to use xchat-gnome. but got sick of tray clutter and switching windows
[08:31] <mac_v> darkmatter: hmm , pidgin works but several irc commands dont work in it ;)  when empathy irc is improved , i'd migrate to empathy :)
[08:32] <darkmatter> mac_v: yeah. openSUSE is holding off on empathy as default for the same reason I'm not switching: missing basic features
[08:32] <darkmatter> I'm sure empathy will get there, but it'll take a bit
[08:37] <zniavre> mac_v,  thank you
[08:38] <mac_v> np
[08:39] <mac_v> zniavre: did you figure out vlc icon?
[08:40] <zniavre> no
[08:40] <mac_v> hmm , some devs just hardcode the tray icons :/
[08:40] <zniavre> yes
[09:15] <zniavre> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7530/capturedc.png im quite happy with this xchat icon
[09:24] <BHSPitMonkey> nice
[09:24] <BHSPitMonkey> it'd also be nice if xchat had an official vector icon at all :(
[09:25] <mac_v> xchat doesnt use the svg icon :/  . .it requires only a .png  :(
[09:26] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm always attracted to monochrome themes, but I find that color ultimately helps me use the UI more effectively
[09:26] <BHSPitMonkey> I can't recognize an icon as easily in b/w
[09:27] <mac_v> hehe , the gnome-look icons are all over the place ;) some have 256x256 sizes too for a panel icon :p
[09:29] <darkmatter> color scheme theft alert! http://customize.org/screenshots/66499/download?v=69515 :O
[09:33] <darkmatter> great... now my google theme morphed into carrots. tummy... hurts... neeed... food :/
[09:33] <mac_v> zniavre: the icon of the bird , what app is that for?
[09:33] <darkmatter> is it orange?
[09:35] <darkmatter> mac_v: pidgin crashed, cant see his link anymore. did it perhaps look like this? http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/18230/songbird_inline.png
[09:36] <mac_v> darkmatter: the bird in this > http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7530/capturedc.png
[09:38] <darkmatter> hmmm... that looks strangely familiar. curse you monochrome!
[09:39] <mac_v> that looks more like a teradactyl actually   ;p
[09:39] <darkmatter> lol.. I was just thinking a similar thought xD
[09:43] <zniavre_> mac_v,  the icon is for nicotine+
[09:43] <mac_v> oh... no now kwwii will have the urge to go out for a smoke ;p
[09:46] <darkmatter> mac_v: the most fitting nicotine+ icon I've ever seen was a package of cigarettes
[09:47]  * mac_v tries to figure out what nicotine+ actually is for :)
[09:47] <zniavre_> its a p2p using soulseek server
[09:48] <mac_v> oh...
[09:49] <zniavre_> nobodies perfect ...   :o)
[09:52] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm noticing something strange in the Humanity theme in Karmic
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> The SVG versions of icons are in the 48x48 folder, instead of scalable/...
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> Is this a new convention?
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> Oh, dumb me
[09:53] <BHSPitMonkey> They're SVGs optimized for those resolutions I guess
[09:55] <darkmatter> mac_v: check the menu. much more fitting imo. http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs9/i/2006/036/2/6/Mint_2_0_by_Lokheed.png
[09:56] <mac_v> BHSPitMonkey: all icons are svgs , even the 16px :)
[09:56] <BHSPitMonkey> mac_v: \o/
[09:56] <mac_v> in humanity*
[09:56] <BHSPitMonkey> This pleases me
[09:56] <BHSPitMonkey> My iPod is going to look *slick* :P
[09:57] <mac_v> darkmatter: the buddy list? how is the ethernet port going to signify offline ;) ?
[09:57] <mac_v> does the online have a wire plugged in.. ? then it would work i guess :)
[09:58] <darkmatter> mac_v: the nicotine icon in the meny :P better and more appropriate metaphor than the pterodactyl. as I have no clue as to how a flying lizard is related to a chemical constituent of tobacco :P
[09:59] <mac_v> darkmatter: oh , that.... just need to cross fingers that Marlboro doesnt sue  ;p
[10:00] <darkmatter> lol
[10:02] <zniavre_> darkmatter,  cause real soulseek.exe client
[10:02] <BHSPitMonkey> mac_v: do you know the name of the icon overlay used for symlinks?
[10:02] <darkmatter> ahh
[10:02] <BHSPitMonkey> (the little "shortcut" arrow)
[10:03] <zniavre_> gnome-dev-symlink.   no ?
[10:04] <mac_v> BHSPitMonkey: emblem-symbolic-link also
[10:05] <mac_v> is used
[10:05] <darkmatter> nice. my 11.2 is coming in at ~705kB/s
[10:07] <zniavre_> darkmatter,  i re-made slsk icon theme for nicotine (wich slsk author does not want them available for everybody ) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4167/capture1z.png
[10:07] <darkmatter> zniavre_: looks good
[10:08] <mac_v> zniavre_: the icons look good , but maintain a constant icon padding  , 3px height for 22px icons and 4px height for 24px icons
[10:08] <zniavre_> :o)   first shot in svg
[10:08] <zniavre_> mac_v,  noted !   thank you
[10:10] <mac_v> zniavre_: 22px always start from 3px , try to finish with a top padding of 3px but if required use one more px but not more than that... keep at minimum 2px padding. the 24px is just the 22px icons with added padding of 1px around them
[11:54] <BHSPitMonkey> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7748/quickshottrjk.png :)
[11:55] <knome> BHSPitMonkey, what's that device?
[11:55] <BHSPitMonkey> knome: iPod Touch (iPhone)
[11:55] <knome> right.
[11:55] <knome> i hope i can someday have an open source OS in my LG KS20.
[11:56] <BHSPitMonkey> I've used a Human theme up till now, and now I'm working on the Humanity update
[11:56] <knome> looks good.
[11:56] <BHSPitMonkey> Unfortunately no open source OSes on the iPhone yet
[11:56] <BHSPitMonkey> But at least I can feel like I have one :P
[11:56] <knome> the google earth icon is a bit blurry.
[11:56] <BHSPitMonkey> perhaps
[11:57] <BHSPitMonkey> I'll probably lose some interest in this iPod once my G1 comes in
[11:57] <knome> hehe
[11:57] <knome> you can send the ipod to me then
[11:57] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[11:58] <BHSPitMonkey> My hardware, for the moment, is neither Free-as-in-speech nor free-as-in-beer, I'm afraid :P
[11:58] <BHSPitMonkey> (It's mine-as-in-I-bought-it!)
[11:59] <knome> heh
[11:59] <knome> okay
[11:59] <knome> i have to go HOME now! :)
[11:59] <BHSPitMonkey> adios
[11:59] <knome> o/
[12:02] <kwwii> if you hadn't noticed, I made a wiki page in the documentation with some plymouth info
[12:03] <kwwii> updated the flickr group info as well
[12:07] <kwwii> add any and all info you find or learn about plymouth to the wiki page
[12:10] <darkmatter> http://www.winsupersite.com/images/alt/chromeos_preview_07.jpg <--- google needs a better login experience
[13:44] <zniavre_> vlc can use a .ico icon on Linux distrib ?
[19:02] <thorwil> kwwii: hi! what would be the right wiki page for the wallpaper-contest gobby document?
[19:04] <kwwii> thorwil: good question, I guess Artwork/XtraWallpaper or such
[19:04] <kwwii> erm, Lucid/XtraWallpaper
[19:04] <kwwii> you get the point ;)
[19:04] <kwwii> thorwil: hi, hope you made it home ok?
[19:04] <thorwil> ah, nice way to get around "Specs"
[19:05] <thorwil> kwwii: yes. i just slept last night from 23:50 to 11:00 :)
[19:05] <kwwii> yepp, pretty much
[19:05] <thorwil> kwwii: how was your trip?
[19:05] <kwwii> mine was good (nothing went wrong)
[19:05] <kwwii> I slept most of the flight back
[19:10] <thorwil> kwwii: -> pm
[19:24] <thorwil> kwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Wallpaper_Contest_Planning
[19:29] <thorwil> kwwii: now linked to from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers/+spec/wallpaper-contest
[19:30] <kwwii> oops, sorry, I was stuck in inkscape
[19:30] <thorwil> np
[19:38] <kwwii> thorwil: looks perfect, thanks ;)
[19:39] <thorwil> kwwii: you're welcome. i'm about to send mail about it to the list
[19:39] <kwwii> thanks for working on this...it would be good if we could keep the community involved as much as possible on this project
[19:44] <mac_v> kwwii: did you get the mail regarding the updates?
[19:54] <kwwii> mac_v: yeah, just haven't had time to go through things yet