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| LLStarks | hi. | 01:31 |
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| LLStarks | i was wondering how i would best go about requesting a change in dev trees for onscripter? | 01:31 |
| dtchen | LLStarks: does it not appear in Debian testing's/unstable's 0.0.20091011-1 source package? | 01:33 |
| LLStarks | it is. | 01:33 |
| dtchen | meaning "it" does appear in that source package? | 01:33 |
| LLStarks | but onscripter should be dumped in favor of mion's onscripter-en | 01:33 |
| dtchen | has this proposal been discussed in Debian? | 01:34 |
| LLStarks | no. | 01:43 |
| LLStarks | how do i request a new package? | 01:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | LLStarks, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 01:44 |
| LLStarks | for debian | 01:44 |
| jdong | quassel needs a much more violently strobing systray icon | 01:45 |
| jdong | but I fear I might be alone in this opinion | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | konversation's has a nice violent red blink. | 01:47 |
| micahg | LLStarks: this should get you started: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ | 01:50 |
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| Buuntu | will someone mentor me? I tried emailing the mentor-mailing list but I haven't gotten a response in over a week | 02:33 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, you might wanna ping nxvl or huats... prolly nobody answered because of the UDS | 02:34 |
| RoAkSoAx | but you can start reading the packaging guide... don't get discouraged... sometimes it is hard to provide mentors to all of those people who want one | 02:35 |
| Buuntu | RoAkSoAx, UDS? it doesn't seem like they're online | 02:35 |
| Buuntu | RoAkSoAx, I've read through it | 02:35 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, yes last week was the UDs | 02:35 |
| Buuntu | RoAkSoAx, found it really confusing though so I wanted to get a mentor - just to get started mostly | 02:35 |
| Buuntu | ubuntu development summit? | 02:35 |
| ScottK | developers/development, but you have the basic idea | 02:41 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, I started by myself then got a mentor :). Just start reading, if you read it is gonna help u get started when you get your mentor | 02:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | heya ScottK how's it going | 02:43 |
| Buuntu | RoAkSoAx, ehh, how can I contact nxvl or huats since they aren't online atm, just catch them at a later time or what? | 02:44 |
| ScottK | RoAkSoAx: OK. Still tired from UDS. | 02:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, just try to find them online | 02:45 |
| RoAkSoAx | ScottK, yeah same here... but now i have so much stuff to do i can't rest :( | 02:45 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, hey | 02:49 |
| nxvl | hi... | 02:49 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, RoAkSoAx said I should ping you because I'm interested in a mentor ^^ | 02:50 |
| nxvl | oh | 02:50 |
| nxvl | yeah | 02:50 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, I already tried emailing the mailing list but I didn't get a reply | 02:50 |
| nxvl | send an e-mail to.... | 02:50 |
| nxvl | mmm, let me find the link | 02:50 |
| nxvl | let me find your e-mail | 02:50 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: what's you real name? | 02:54 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, Gabriel Abud | 02:55 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: i don't see your e-mail inthere | 02:56 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, ubuntu-motu-mentors@something.com right? | 02:56 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: motu-mentoring-reception@reponses.net | 02:56 |
| * Buuntu doesn't remember exactly | 02:56 | |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, oh, I sent it to the wrong one then | 02:57 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, I used ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com, do you want me to resend it to the correct adress? | 02:57 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: let me check | 02:59 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: i don't see it there either | 02:59 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, lol, I'll resend it, which email should I send it to? | 03:00 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: motu-mentoring-reception@reponses.net | 03:02 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, sent | 03:02 |
| Buuntu | nxvl_, well? | 03:09 |
| nxvl_ | Buuntu: my e-mail is slow | 03:11 |
| nxvl_ | :D | 03:11 |
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| Buuntu | nxvl, ? | 03:22 |
| nxvl | Buuntu: still don't see it | 03:24 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, T_T | 03:24 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, lol can I just copy and paste it to you? I don't know why you're not getting it... | 03:25 |
| nxvl | Buuntu: so, you have no experience and you don't know anything about packaging or ubuntu? | 03:32 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, oh no, I know stuff about ubuntu | 03:33 |
| nxvl | Buuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 03:33 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, not about packaging though | 03:33 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, yeah I read through some of that | 03:33 |
| nxvl | Buuntu: read that, start in that package | 03:33 |
| nxvl | ugh | 03:33 |
| nxvl | start packaging and playing with it | 03:34 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, got kind of confused though | 03:34 |
| nxvl | as here then | 03:34 |
| nxvl | ask* | 03:34 |
| nxvl | the mentoring program is basically for the last mile on the process, not for the first one | 03:34 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, ah | 03:34 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, well I mean I get how to do it, but that guide doesn't really explain how it works | 03:35 |
| nxvl | the guide is just that, a guide | 03:36 |
| nxvl | for more information you need to read the debian Policy | 03:37 |
| nxvl | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 03:37 |
| nxvl | you can find more documentation here aswell: http://www.debian.org/devel/ | 03:37 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, how do you do this: "Apply the unzipped .diff.gz to the unpacked source directory. " | 03:41 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, what does apply mean? | 03:41 |
| nxvl | where is that? | 03:42 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, patch -p1 < *.diff.gz | 03:42 |
| RoAkSoAx | Buuntu, patch -p1 < name.diff.gz | 03:42 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, 3.1 Packaging from Scratch of the complete guide | 03:42 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, oh wait, I didn't read that - it was explaining what apt-get source does :P | 03:44 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, sorry | 03:44 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, what about this : dh_make -e your.maintainer@address, is that my email or what? | 03:50 |
| nxvl | yup | 03:51 |
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| Buuntu | nxvl, what language do the files like rules use? I wasn't aware that make was a programming language... | 04:16 |
| nxvl | Buuntu: dash | 04:19 |
| Buuntu | Buuntu, dash? hmm... never heard of it | 04:20 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, Enter passphrase: gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session? | 04:22 |
| Buuntu | nxvl, I set up gpg with a passphrase though... | 04:22 |
| HFSPLUS | !ops | 04:41 |
| ubottu | Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds! | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | sigh | 04:41 |
| lifeless | Hobbsee: you know you want to | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | lifeless: which is why i just went to #freenode asking about a kline, yes | 04:42 |
| lifeless | \o/ | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | looks like someone was already onto it | 04:43 |
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| micahg | anyone want to sponsor a package? | 04:56 |
| sladen | micahg: what is it, is it syncable from Debian? | 04:58 |
| micahg | no, it's a u-u-s debdiff | 04:58 |
| micahg | I wanted to get it into lucid, so I can get an SRU to karmic | 04:59 |
| micahg | sladen: ^^^ | 05:01 |
| sladen | micahg: what's the diff/package? | 05:03 |
| micahg | sladen: bug 477513 | 05:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 477513 in uim "FireFox crashes routinely karmic i386" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477513 | 05:04 |
| micahg | sladen: I made the upload for lucid, and the patch is from upstream, but the user never tested it | 05:04 |
| micahg | should I have the user test the karmic version before I push the patch to lucid? | 05:04 |
| micahg | or is upstreams commit good enough? | 05:05 |
| sladen | gah, looking at this when I was about to go to bed was silly | 05:15 |
| micahg | yeah, that's why I was wondering if there was a night owl here :) | 05:18 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose__, about debian bug 557598: I think that the icons are the ones uuencoded in debian directory | 05:20 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 557598 in xtide "xtide: Icons missing copyright information" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/557598 | 05:20 |
| fabrice_sp | WaVeR, waver_ got your email. What do you want exactly? :-) | 05:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | hey guys anyone know how's it possible to make dh7 rerun autotools? | 05:26 |
| fabrice_sp | mdbtools made it in override_dh_auto_configure | 05:29 |
| fabrice_sp | RoAkSoAx, this is also what has been done in gshare by Laney | 05:32 |
| fabrice_sp | you can have a look at those 2 pacakges | 05:32 |
| RoAkSoAx | fabrice_sp, ok cool, i'll take a look at those packages. thanks for the tip | 05:32 |
| fabrice_sp | yw ;-) | 05:32 |
| porthose__ | fabrice_sp, Ok, but the copyright information is still missing, so the is bug still relevant correct? :) | 05:34 |
| fabrice_sp | yes: it's only that in the Debian bug report, you mentioned other icons ;-) | 05:35 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose__, ^ | 05:35 |
| porthose__ | fabrice_sp, ok i will fix it :) | 05:35 |
| fabrice_sp | ;-) | 05:35 |
| porthose__ | fabrice_sp, I am not a big emac user (just started playing with it) so no I am not sure that change is still needed, should I turn bug #485689 into a sync request? | 05:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 485689 in nxml-mode "Please Merge nxml-mode 20041004-8 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485689 | 05:38 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose__, neither am I :-) it's only that I'm not been able to reproduce it, so I'm not sure the change is still required | 05:41 |
| fabrice_sp | don't know also what is the future of emacs21 and emacs22, as we already have emacs23 | 05:41 |
| fabrice_sp | hhm: emacs21 is not packaged in lucid | 05:42 |
| fabrice_sp | if we can get rid of emacs22, this package can be deleted also | 05:43 |
| porthose__ | IIRC nxml-mode is included in emacs23, hmm | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | don't know the impact :-D | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | yes | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | emcas package is provided by emacs23 in lucid, so upgrade path seems to be covered | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | "emacs package" | 05:44 |
| porthose__ | fabrice_sp, how about we wait on this until the fate of emacs22 is known, sound good :) | 05:45 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose__, you can perhaps ping an archive admin, to have his opinion on removing emacs22. otherwise, emacs22 will still be in lucid :-) | 05:46 |
| sladen | micahg: how long has that bug been going on; is it also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377808 | 05:47 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 377808 in uim "uim can cause crash of X" [Normal,Open] | 05:47 |
| sladen | micahg: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/440110 a dup aswell? | 05:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440110 in firefox-3.5 "Flash intermitently crashes FireFox 3.5" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 05:47 |
| porthose__ | fabrice_sp, ok I'll do that in the am, it's bed time for me night ;) | 05:48 |
| fabrice_sp | good night porthose__ :-) | 05:48 |
| * micahg is looking sladen | 05:54 | |
| micahg | sladen: the first debian bug doesn't seem to be it as it's too old | 05:54 |
| micahg | that other LP bug does look like a dupe though | 05:56 |
| micahg | sladen: oh, you pushed it, thanks | 06:00 |
| micahg | should I prepare the SRU? | 06:00 |
| sladen | micahg: go ahead, but you'll need to get somebody else, the patch is pretty simple | 06:05 |
| micahg | ok, I'll follow the sru procedure, thanks for approving that | 06:05 |
| micahg | sladen: ugh | 06:10 |
| micahg | I thought I checked debian...seems they do have it | 06:10 |
| micahg | in unstable | 06:10 |
| micahg | slytherin: are you up for a question | 06:17 |
| slytherin | tell me | 06:18 |
| micahg | so, I thought I checked debian for a patch and ended up patching myself and geting the upload sponsered, but debian did have it in unstable | 06:18 |
| * micahg mistook 1.5.6-2 for 1.5.6-0ubuntu2 | 06:18 | |
| micahg | :) | 06:18 |
| micahg | should I request a sync now to fix it? | 06:19 |
| slytherin | Not a big deal. When Debian package gets migrated to testing, you can request a sync. | 06:19 |
| micahg | ok | 06:19 |
| micahg | I used the same patch number, just a different patch name | 06:19 |
| slytherin | when you request sync, your changes are all going away, so patch name doesn't matter | 06:21 |
| micahg | ok | 06:21 |
| micahg | do I have to watch for it, or will it happen automatically? | 06:22 |
| micahg | I jsut wanted to get an SRU to karmic | 06:22 |
| slytherin | karmic? I thought you were talking about package in lucid. | 06:23 |
| micahg | I already got the fix in Lucid, but only because that was on the SRU procedure | 06:23 |
| micahg | that was the one that debian has the fix for and got someone to sponsor | 06:23 |
| micahg | now I'm trying to finish getting the SRU into -proposed for karmic | 06:23 |
| slytherin | Ok. | 06:24 |
| micahg | I'm waiting for i386 and lpia to finish building in my ppa, then I'll upload the debdiff to the bug | 06:25 |
| LucidFox | http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/39760.html | 07:05 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:56 |
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| siretart` | hi dholbach - morning folks! | 08:06 |
| dholbach | hi siretart` | 08:06 |
| \sh | moins | 08:08 |
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| AndrewGee | Hi. Any MOTUs available to review my package with already one advocation? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gpxviewer - Thanks :) | 10:08 |
| DktrKranz | AndrewGee: _o/ | 10:18 |
| AndrewGee | DktrKranz: Thanks :) | 10:18 |
| Whoopie | jdong: Hi, why was the ticket assigned to me? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/481448 | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 481448 in vlc "VLC lacks build-dep on libupnp3-dev" [Undecided,New] | 10:50 |
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| DktrKranz | AndrewGee: commented | 11:08 |
| AndrewGee | DktrKranz: Thanks :) | 11:08 |
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| waver_ | Hi, any MOTUs available to review my package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/hiawatha | 12:24 |
| akheron | mine too: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jansson | 12:37 |
| lfaraone | Hey, when I run "pbuilder create" on my 9.10 system, I get "Unknown distribution: karmic" | 13:45 |
| lfaraone | Any idea why? | 13:45 |
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| slytherin | lfaraone: surprising | 13:48 |
| cyphermox | lfaraone, are you in karmic? | 13:50 |
| lfaraone | cyphermox, slytherin, yes, I'm running karmic. | 13:59 |
| cyphermox | anything special in .pbuilderrc? | 14:01 |
| lfaraone | cyphermox: not afaict. let me check | 14:02 |
| lfaraone | cyphermox: nevermind, I was missing "karmic" in .pbuilderc | 14:03 |
| cyphermox | lfaraone, in, say, UBUNTU_SUITES? | 14:04 |
| cyphermox | lfaraone, because normally it doesn't need to be anywhere in .pbuilderrc -- that file could not exist and pbuilder still recognizes karmic as a valid distribution | 14:06 |
| slytherin | lfaraone: Do you have correct version of debootstrap package installed? | 14:10 |
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| jldupont | I've got a small issue with a makefile: http://jldupont.pastebin.com/m395171f1 | 15:01 |
| jldupont | could someone help me? I believe it is really simple, I just know some guru out here will figure out! | 15:01 |
| azeem | jldupont: I think the clean rule in the upstream Makefile should not run "rm" unconditionally | 15:06 |
| azeem | i.e., it should run "rm -f" | 15:06 |
| jldupont | @azeem: good point ! THANKS! | 15:07 |
| jldupont | cyphermox: thanks to you too! (private reply) | 15:08 |
| cyphermox | jldupont, you should post to the channel with all your stuff though, not just directly to me | 15:08 |
| cyphermox | so that others can potentially benefit from it | 15:08 |
| jldupont | cyphermox: you are totally right... my bad... I'll be more diligent next time! | 15:11 |
| ari-tczew | is anybody here? | 15:19 |
| slytherin | azeem: isn't 'rm -f' same as running rm unconditionally? | 15:20 |
| slytherin | ari-tczew: lots of people are here. | 15:20 |
| azeem | slytherin: it doesn't exit with failure if the file to remove does not exist AFAIK | 15:20 |
| azeem | unconditionally was maybe the wrong term... | 15:20 |
| ari-tczew | could someone review this bug 393923 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 393923 in agg "agg_rasterizer_cells_aa.h missing #includes <limits.h> and <stdlib.h> so it doesn't compile on new GCC versions" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393923 | 15:20 |
| ari-tczew | is it need fix? | 15:21 |
| azeem | ari-tczew: are you saying you attached a patch to the bug and want it reviewed? | 15:21 |
| ari-tczew | no, I'm looking for answer, that whether this need patch, if it needs a patch, then I'll do debdiff | 15:22 |
| lfaraone | cyphermox: yes, in UBUNTU_SUITES. | 15:24 |
| alex-weeej | the CERN ROOT packages don't seem to include the Python bindings... does anyone know how to get them? | 15:24 |
| alex-weeej | this is with root-system and libroot-python5.18... | 15:25 |
| alex-weeej | the manifest for libroot-python5.18 doesn't seem to suggest it includes any python libraries... | 15:25 |
| randomaction | what about libroot-python-dev? | 15:27 |
| tseliot | hi all | 15:41 |
| tseliot | the next meeting of the Motu council should take place on Friday, 26th November 2009, 17:00 UTC | 15:41 |
| tseliot | but November 26 is on Thursday | 15:41 |
| tseliot | what's the right date? | 15:41 |
| ari-tczew | tseliot, #ubuntu-metting | 15:42 |
| ari-tczew | now just someone is talking | 15:42 |
| Laney | huh? | 15:43 |
| Laney | he asked for the date | 15:43 |
| tseliot | ari-tczew: yes, I'm there, but that's a DMB meeting | 15:44 |
| tseliot | geser: ^^ | 15:44 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:45 |
| geser | tseliot: fixed, the 2nd meeting of a month is always on the 4th Thursday | 15:47 |
| tseliot | geser: ok, thanks a lot | 15:48 |
| ari-tczew | so 27th november? | 15:49 |
| tseliot | ari-tczew: 26 | 15:49 |
| ari-tczew | ah thursday, right, | 15:49 |
| geser | according to my calender the 4th Thursday is on Nov 26 | 15:49 |
| ari-tczew | I'm pretty tired today | 15:49 |
| ari-tczew | If I want to candidate to member of MOTU, can I request this 26th thursday? | 15:54 |
| maco | ari-tczew: you're supposed to put in a week in advance | 15:54 |
| ari-tczew | maco, thanks | 15:55 |
| ari-tczew | so I'll do another once | 15:55 |
| iulian | bddebian: Hello. | 15:55 |
| geser | ari-tczew: the MC could process you on Fri, Dec 11th if you apply till Dec 4th | 15:58 |
| ari-tczew | where can I apply this? | 16:04 |
| bddebian | Hi iulian | 16:04 |
| geser | ari-tczew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#Applying | 16:07 |
| al-maisan | Hello there! Quick question: are there any rules re. the age of files that comprise a package? | 16:25 |
| al-maisan | One of geser's packages was rejected by Soyuz because the files therein had "Thu Jan 1 10:13:08 1970" time stamps | 16:25 |
| al-maisan | just trying to figure out whether this is a Soyuz bug or an issue with his package | 16:26 |
| al-maisan | The package in question is upload php-auth_1.6.2-1, see also: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36001574/upload_1361070_log.txt | 16:27 |
| ScottK | I can't imagine those time stamps being correct, so I'd be cursious how they got that way? | 16:27 |
| al-maisan | geser: can you elaborate please? | 16:28 |
| Laney | I can imagine it happening with tar -mtime in conjunction with a get-orig-source rule to make it deterministic | 16:28 |
| ScottK | al-maisan: 1970 being described as 'in the future' is clearly wrong in any case. | 16:29 |
| al-maisan | ScottK: yes, I acknowledged that as a bug already. | 16:29 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:29 |
| RoAkSoAx | pkern, what are your feelings about changing the localization to US rather than UK (bug #485408) | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 485408 in gobby "en_US users see en_UK spellings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485408 | 16:35 |
| jldupont | Anyone using the Bazaar plugin under Eclipse? How can I "ignore" a file from a directory under revision control ? | 16:41 |
| geser | ScottK: one moment, I've to look at the package (php-auth; imported from Debian) | 16:42 |
| geser | ScottK: they are already in the upstream tarball: http://download.pear.php.net/package/Auth-1.6.2.tgz | 16:45 |
| geser | the interesting fact is, that the Debian deb has all timestamps current while I could reproduce this timestamps in my lucid pbuilder | 16:46 |
| ScottK | Weird | 16:47 |
| geser | as the package is arch:all I can't check the Debian buildd log :( | 16:47 |
| geser | rebuilding the package in a lenny pbuilder shows the same timestamps (from 1970) | 16:53 |
| ScottK | It might be worth a mail to the Debian maintainer to ask him how he builds the package. | 16:53 |
| ScottK | Some of them have 'unique' approaches for arch all packages. My favorite being the one where the maintainer's home directory name was hard encoded in the maintainerscripts. | 16:54 |
| * geser hopes Debian starts rebuilding arch:all packages soon upon upload | 16:55 | |
| EzraR | ScottK: are you familiar with the automake/python.my problem with dist-packages vs site-packages? | 16:57 |
| EzraR | python.m4 rather | 16:57 |
| ScottK | EzraR: Not really. It's pretty easy to fix these things when distutils is used. Possibly the easiest thing to do is just move everything in debian/rules. | 16:59 |
| EzraR | ScottK: yeah pycentral i believe does that automaticlly...the problem with this particular package is it uses the value with sed to change the source | 17:00 |
| EzraR | pycentral does not fix that | 17:01 |
| ScottK | I don't have an easy suggestion for you and no time to review it in depth now. Sorry. | 17:01 |
| EzraR | ScottK: np, i thought i had seen your name when i was tracking down the automake stuff | 17:02 |
| ScottK | I've worked on packages like that before, it's just been awhile. | 17:02 |
| EzraR | right now the package is broken for python 2.6 but say if i changed the source after install it would break it for < 2.6 | 17:04 |
| EzraR | or do i need to worry about people not having 2.6? | 17:05 |
| EzraR | i can put a condition to change if over 2.5 | 17:05 |
| ScottK | In Lucid, we only have 2.6, so it's fine. | 17:05 |
| EzraR | karmic too? | 17:06 |
| ScottK | Karmic has 2.5 and 2.6. | 17:08 |
| ScottK | A more general solution is preferable. It'd be useful for Debian if not for us. | 17:08 |
| EzraR | i believe that would take fixing automake which the bug is curently makred fixed | 17:09 |
| EzraR | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/350016 | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 350016 in python2.6 "wrong quoting in aclocal's python.m4 check" [High,Fix released] | 17:17 |
| EzraR | ScottK: oh and btw the package ive been talking about isnt in debian | 17:27 |
| ScottK | OK, then that simplifies things. | 17:27 |
| EzraR | however if someone installed the package when they had python 2.5 then upgraded to 2.6 it would break | 17:33 |
| jldupont | How come that my PPA doesn't appear in Synaptic? When I press the "origin" button, my PPA isn't listed? | 18:06 |
| micahg | jldupont: it just lists ppa.launchpad.net | 18:07 |
| jldupont | micahg: thanks for the reply. ok then, why isn't my package listed when I search for it **but** I can install it using apt-get ? | 18:08 |
| micahg | do you have just the deb line or deb and deb-src? | 18:08 |
| jldupont | just the deb | 18:08 |
| jldupont | I need deb-src?? | 18:09 |
| micahg | maybe that's it, but I'd say that's a bug if it is | 18:09 |
| jldupont | let me try... a sec. | 18:09 |
| jldupont | even with the deb-src it's still doesn't show in Synaptic **but** it is installed as per apt-get... | 18:10 |
| jldupont | what did I do wrong in the packaging ?? | 18:11 |
| ScottK | Neither PPA nor Synaptic are particularly on topic for this channel. | 18:11 |
| jldupont | ScottK: I tried #launchpad but nobody responds... | 18:11 |
| ScottK | That doesn't magically change the topic of this channel. | 18:12 |
| micahg | jldupont: lets go to #ubuntu-bugs | 18:13 |
| mac_v | hi... will the fix for Bug #439077 , be available for Karmic? | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 439077 in vlc "enable globalhotkeys in karmic vlc" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439077 | 18:59 |
| mac_v | hmm , is this the right room for the question ? :) | 19:00 |
| m4rtin | mac_v: only has a lucid patch at the moment | 19:02 |
| m4rtin | maco: nice interview :) | 19:02 |
| ScottK | mac_v: It's on topic for the channel. Not sure who can answer. | 19:02 |
| randomaction | mac_v: SRU was not requested | 19:02 |
| mac_v | randomaction: hmm , how do we do that? | 19:03 |
| randomaction | !sru | 19:03 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 19:03 |
| mac_v | the bug was actually filed for karmic , as mentioned in the title | 19:03 |
| fabrice_sp | mac_v, the fix is alwasys uploaded for the dev version, so Lucid in that case | 19:05 |
| fabrice_sp | after it's fixed in the dev version, a SRU has to be done, to 'backport' it | 19:05 |
| mac_v | hmm , reading the wiki , I'm not sure if this is SRU worthy , but seems more for the backports.. | 19:06 |
| mac_v | ah ok | 19:06 |
| ari-tczew | devs, could someone check bug 393923, is it needs a fix? | 19:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 393923 in agg "agg_rasterizer_cells_aa.h missing #includes <limits.h> and <stdlib.h> so it doesn't compile on new GCC versions" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393923 | 19:07 |
| fabrice_sp | ari-tczew, I don't think so: if the package works fine, I don't see the point of fixing something that we don't use. Check it with av` | 19:13 |
| RoAkSoAx | ScottK, I would like yout opinion in the patch attached for bug #401048 fixes the issue? | 19:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401048 in havp "havp fails to (re)start because of mounted /var/spool/havp in Karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401048 | 19:13 |
| ari-tczew | sure fabrice_sp | 19:14 |
| * ScottK looks | 19:14 | |
| ScottK | RoAkSoAx: You can ask cemc what testing he's done on this. I don't have a havp setup to test with, but I generally trust his work on clamav packages. | 19:16 |
| micahg1 | anyone interested in pushing through an SRU? | 19:17 |
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| RoAkSoAx | ScottK, ok I'll ask him then :) | 19:17 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: well, I attached that patch... and I think it fixes the problem, but I have to look at it a bit more. I know it's still an issue in Karmic | 19:20 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, ok so if its still an issue in Karmic, it might be in lucid as well | 19:22 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: yes, Lucid has the same version as Karmic | 19:22 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, Yes, I was about to merge the new upstream version however I though to wait for the fix on that bug before uploading it to Lucid | 19:23 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: 0.91-1 from testing? | 19:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, yes | 19:24 |
| maco | m4rtin: thanks | 19:26 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: I dont' see any bugreports in Debian for this. I'll file one, maybe they'll fix it and then you can merge (and maybe do an SRU for Karmic). how does this sound? | 19:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, awesome! I'll hold the merge a few days then!! :) | 19:29 |
| fabrice_sp | is fakeroot broken in lucid? | 19:29 |
| fabrice_sp | I'm getting "ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored" | 19:30 |
| fabrice_sp | hmm, it's not lucid fault | 19:36 |
| fabrice_sp | fcuk112, ^ | 19:36 |
| fabrice_sp | this is when I try to generate the source pacakge | 19:36 |
| fabrice_sp | of libavg | 19:36 |
| lars_ | Hello together! I've got some questions to the contribution process for people who are new to the whole thing (like me). I read many wiki articles, but I am still a little unsure about which things I need to do. I followed the tutorials, here you can see what I got so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lcdproc/+bug/218374. I am not sure about the correctness of all what I did there... and I don't know what I still have to do. Can | 19:47 |
| lars_ | you help me? | 19:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 218374 in lcdproc "LCD g15 driver is not compiled" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:47 |
| RoAkSoAx | hey guys has anyone else receiving a "E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: Connection timed out (110)" message while requesting a sync with requestsync ? | 19:52 |
| randomaction | lars_: you should subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug. And the sponsors will most likely ask you to add the changelog entry (to debian/changelog), so you might do that as well :) | 19:54 |
| lars_ | ok, I will do that | 19:55 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: thanks i got your update. | 19:56 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: how do i add the export line? i just added export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/libavg:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH on line 2 of the debian/rules file. | 19:57 |
| fabrice_sp | fcuk112, perhaps adding it when building the package? (in the buils target) | 19:59 |
| fabrice_sp | you don't have this error? | 19:59 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: i do - but i saw some stuff on google that it could be ignored. i guess it can't. | 20:00 |
| fabrice_sp | nop, as it don't let you build the source package :-D | 20:00 |
| fabrice_sp | ScottK, do you have opinion on removing emacs22 from archive for lucid? | 20:01 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp: I think it should go, but I'd ask siretart` as he's a heavy emacs user and would know better. | 20:03 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: humm, moving the export line below debian/stamp-build%: | 20:03 |
| fcuk112 | didn't help | 20:03 |
| fabrice_sp | ScottK, ok :-) | 20:03 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose, ^ | 20:04 |
| fabrice_sp | fcuk112, can you check if the source package can be built without this line? | 20:04 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: then i get the old error again: libavg.so missing =P | 20:05 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: it should build, but only when i have that export entry in my .pbuilderrc. | 20:05 |
| fabrice_sp | perhaps someone else can help you with the build error | 20:05 |
| fcuk112 | fabrice_sp: ok - back to the drawing board :( | 20:06 |
| fabrice_sp | do you have the exact building error? | 20:06 |
| fabrice_sp | got it: | 20:07 |
| fabrice_sp | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library avg.so.0 needed by debian/python-libavg/usr/lib/libColorNode.so.0.0.0 | 20:07 |
| fabrice_sp | anyone know how to fix that^ ? | 20:07 |
| siretart | fabrice_sp: why do you want emacs22 removed? | 20:07 |
| siretart | ScottK: in case this question turns up again: I think we should keep emacs22 in universe at least for lucid, probably until we get an emacs24 package (which might take some time..) - for now let's hope that emacs23 gets promoted soon | 20:08 |
| fabrice_sp | siretart, emacs is provided by emacs23, and this would allow to remove also another package (nxml-mode) | 20:09 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 20:09 |
| ajmitch | is that still a good reason to remove it? | 20:10 |
| fabrice_sp | siretart, do you have an opinion on Bug #485689 ? | 20:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 485689 in nxml-mode "Please Merge nxml-mode 20041004-8 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485689 | 20:10 |
| ajmitch | though it's nice to cut down on the number of versions to carry | 20:10 |
| fabrice_sp | ajmitch, 3 times the same pacakge seems a good reason to remove at least one :-) | 20:10 |
| fabrice_sp | (at least, it seems to be the same package to me :- ) | 20:11 |
| ajmitch | I'm just wary of taking a package from default in main ine one release to removed in the next | 20:12 |
| ajmitch | but apart from that I don't know if there are good reasons to keep it around | 20:13 |
| ajmitch | or is emacs23 default in karmic? I can never remember :) | 20:13 |
| siretart | ajmitch: no, emacs23 was not ready in time for wide testing. it is shipped in universe | 20:14 |
| ajmitch | right | 20:14 |
| ajmitch | 'emacs --version' gives me emacs23 because I chose to install it, I guess | 20:14 |
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| fabrice_sp | right: emacs is provided by emacs22 in karmic, and by emacs23 in lucid | 20:15 |
| siretart | fabrice_sp: err, nxml-mode got merged in emacs23, yes. so we need it for emacs22 only. | 20:16 |
| ScottK | siretart: Why do we need two emacs versions? | 20:16 |
| siretart | fabrice_sp: I don't understand what's unclear on this bug? | 20:16 |
| ajmitch | because emacs is more than just an editor :) | 20:16 |
| siretart | ScottK: for the same reason we ship multiple versions of python | 20:16 |
| ScottK | siretart: How many versions of Python in Lucid? | 20:17 |
| fabrice_sp | siretart, I think it could be a sync, because I've not been able to reproduce the problem that generated the diff i Ubuntu | 20:17 |
| ajmitch | still 5 at the moment, isn't it? | 20:17 |
| ajmitch | from 2.4 to 3.1 | 20:18 |
| siretart | ScottK: sorry? I guess lucid will ship more than 2 versions. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Lucid only has 2.6 as a supported version. | 20:19 |
| siretart | fabrice_sp: what bug is that? | 20:19 |
| ScottK | siretart: OK. I guess when one recalls emacs is an operating system that happens to have an editor, it makes sense. | 20:19 |
| fabrice_sp | let me check | 20:19 |
| siretart | ScottK: I don't propose to ship more than one version of emacs in main. keeping the older version in universe is all I suggest | 20:19 |
| ScottK | OK. | 20:20 |
| siretart | ScottK: nah, operating systems need to do scheduling and optionally paging. emacs does neither | 20:20 |
| siretart | ScottK: rather think of emacs like an interpreter for a funky language (called elisp) that happens to have a graphical interface with an fancy editor :-) | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Fair enough | 20:21 |
| fabrice_sp | siretart, Bug #147904 | 20:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 147904 in nxml-mode "package nxml-mode 20041004-7 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147904 | 20:21 |
| fabrice_sp | you fixed it :-D | 20:21 |
| siretart | wow, that is an really old upload | 20:22 |
| siretart | I'd be surprised if it hadn't be fixed in debian in the mean time | 20:22 |
| siretart | so if you have verified upgrade still works, go ahead with the sync! | 20:22 |
| fabrice_sp | that's my point :-) I'll just make another check, but it was ok last time I checked (don't remember if it was an upgrade ar an install) | 20:23 |
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| porthose | fabrice_sp, just read the scroll back, I'll switch the bug from a merge to a sync :) | 21:33 |
| fabrice_sp | perfect :-) | 21:35 |
| fabrice_sp | bed time: bye ;-) | 21:36 |
| porthose | nite | 21:36 |
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