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micahgasac: I'd like to discuss milestones in LP for mozilla stuff00:14
micahgasac: can wait till tomorrow if it's too late00:15
micahgyoasif: ping07:49
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dholbachhola!12:04
asac_Tsk_: hey, does tbird 3 allow you to create virtual folders for like "just starred" messages?12:07
asacdholbach: welcome ;) ^^12:07
_Tsk_asac yes  Search  select status is stared12:09
dholbachstatus! ah!12:09
* dholbach tries it out12:09
dholbach_Tsk_: you are a rockstar!12:11
dholbachthanks a lot!12:11
dholbachasac: thank you too!12:11
* dholbach is happy12:11
_Tsk_dholbach:  I'm not ....12:11
dholbach_Tsk_: you!12:11
dholbach_Tsk_: you are! :)12:11
asacgreat ;)12:11
asacthx a lot12:11
fta2hi14:59
fta2asac, a few days ago, i ended up fixing my bug in evolution (preventing me from using it for work)15:00
fta2(just fyi)15:00
asacfta2: made a patch?15:22
fta2sort of, i don't know the code base well enough to make it clean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/326916/  it's in my sandbox ppa15:25
fta2asac, ^^15:29
asacfta2: what were the symptoms again?15:32
asaclike "from" from headers was wrong in which way?15:33
fta2it's in the bug15:33
fta2gnome 58557715:33
ubottuGnome bug 585577 in Mailer "wrong FROM in the envelope during SMTP negociation when using multiple accounts" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58557715:33
fta2(this has nothing to do with multiple accounts)15:34
fta2tb has the same problem15:34
asachmm ok15:56
asacpost your patch in upstream bug and see what they think ;)15:56
asacfta2: ^15:56
fta2it's clearly ugly16:04
debfxhi, I'm interested in helping to integrate the kde integration from opensuse into ubuntu16:45
debfxone problem I noticed is that the kde helper application needs a firefox icon to display (e.g. in the download finished notification)16:46
debfxis there an easy way to detect which branding/window icon is used?16:47
asacdebfx: will be there in a few16:55
asac(on a call)16:55
dholbachasac, _Tsk_: I think I like TB316:55
dholbachare we going to have it in lucid? :)16:55
asacgreat ;)16:55
asacdtchen: there?17:41
asacproblems with the pulse plugin17:41
debfxasac: ping :)17:45
micahgyoasif: were you having firefox crash problems?18:03
yoasifmicahg, i realized that it was caused by gnome globalmenu :/18:15
yoasifremoved that and it works fine now18:15
micahgah, ok18:15
micahggood, I fixed another one last night and was trying to find someone who had the issue to test18:17
asacdtchen: how can i check why an app does not get any input from my headset?19:02
asacseems it uses the pulse audio alsa plugin19:02
asacit appears in the applications list and stuff19:02
asacbut nothing gets through the input device for whatever reason19:02
asac(i see peaks in the input device)19:02
asacon sound preferences19:02
asacso in general it works19:02
asacalso it worked like two days agp19:02
asacwas there any proposed upstream that might have killed it ?19:03
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ftakenvandine, i see you've retargetted the gwibber packaging branch to follow the 2.0 branch instead of trunk. In the past, it didn't work well, it was 1.2, and the 1.2 branch never went anywhere past the branching, so we moved back to trunk19:25
ftanot to mention that -daily is better served with trunk, and that maintaining two branches is painful19:26
kenvandinefta, well we need to be able to cherry pick fixes into karmic19:31
kenvandinewe do not want to push stuff from trunk into karmic19:31
micahgasac: looks like we have a system cairo bug in Firefox 3.619:32
asachmm19:32
asacmicahg: we use system cairo at all?19:32
micahgin karmic19:33
micahgmozilla bug 52789019:33
ubottuMozilla bug 527890 in Application Update "WinCE tests for app update can't deal with read-only files" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52789019:33
micahgmozilla bug 52798019:33
ubottuMozilla bug 527980 in Graphics "Square characters in menus and tab titles" [Trivial,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52798019:33
* micahg is typing dyslexicly19:33
ftakenvandine, maybe we need a .karmic branch then, otherwise dailies will stale pretty quick19:34
ftaasac, what do you think?19:34
asacfta: gwibber?19:34
asacif gwibber moves to latest crack then yes.19:34
kenvandinefta, dailies should be latest crack19:35
kenvandinethere will be lots of work going on in trunk19:35
kenvandinebut only bug fixes for the 2.0 branch19:35
kenvandineexpect lots of changes in trunk19:36
ftasure but the branch that is currently followed for the dailies is the one you touched19:36
kenvandinei touched both of them19:36
ftahm19:36
kenvandineoh, dailies coming from packaging?19:36
kenvandinei see...19:36
kenvandineso what builds from packaging.trunk?19:37
ftahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-confs/annotate/head:/ppabot-pkgs-gwibber.conf19:37
ftahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/revision/1519:38
micahgasac: should I file a bug against cairo?19:38
ftaso since 2009-09-01, the bot follows lp:~gwibber-team/gwibber/packaging19:38
* kenvandine didn't know you had a bot, that's cool :)19:38
asaci am going crazy ... two hours tried to get this headset working ... now it just started working without knowing what has changed :/19:38
ftakenvandine, where did you think the dailies came from??19:39
kenvandineasac, i hate it when that happens19:39
kenvandinei thought trunk19:39
kenvandinewhat builds from packaging.trunk?19:39
ftaprobably nothing since september19:39
kenvandineoh... humm19:39
asacok rebooting and see if it works still (i doubt it19:40
ftafyi, i run a bunch of dailies on my own servs: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/files19:40
kenvandinei would thing it would make more sense for the packaging.trunk branch to build dailies19:40
ftai should, but iirc, i changed it because the other branch was dead (all the commits were going to the non trunk branch)19:41
kenvandinethat won't be the case now19:41
ftaok, great, so i will change it back19:42
kenvandinetrunk will get a ton of changes and we will cherry pick bug fixes into the gwibber/2.0 branch19:42
kenvandinethx!19:42
kenvandinefta, what do you use to drive the builds?19:42
ftakenvandine, my own bot: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-scripts/files19:48
kenvandinecool19:50
asacmicahg: i am not sure we should file a bug against cairo19:52
asacisnt the in-source cairo ahead of ours?19:52
asacmaybe its fixed already?19:52
micahgok, no, they seem to have a patched version of cairo19:53
asacwe should check why the patch doesnt exist19:55
asacupstream19:55
asacerr wasnt applied19:55
asaci would expect that moz folks discussed this with them19:55
asacas vlad also does cairo upstrema19:55
micahgwell, as soon as I have more information, I'll let you know19:55
asacthx19:55
micahgalso, their cairo looks ugly19:56
asachmm19:56
asacwhy?19:56
micahgit's blocky19:56
asacblocky?19:56
asacwhat does that mean?19:56
asacyou mean without proper font anti aliasing?19:56
micahgmore outlined19:56
asacor pixmap scaling?19:56
micahgidk19:56
asacso unrelated to fonts?19:57
micahghave you tried their build yet?19:57
asacnot 3.619:57
asacotherwise yes19:57
micahgyes, the way the windows look19:57
asaci know that their font situation is even worse than ours19:57
micahgI guess the fonts too, but it's more like the windows look like win 3.119:57
asacdtchen: its odd .. somehow it works now to get input through tha alsa pulse plugin ... BUT19:58
asacthe application is now greyed in the "Applications" tab19:58
asac(though i see it still)19:58
asacdoes that mean anything?19:58
asacpreviously input from mic didnt work, but the app was not greyed19:58
asacmicahg: have a screen?19:58
ftamicahg, the patches are listed here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.1/source/gfx/cairo/20:00
ftaand explained in the README20:00
ftai wish http://code.google.com/p/gyp/issues/detail?id=119 was fixed, so i can complete my package20:01
micahgis there an image pastebin?20:04
ftaseveral, like http://imagebin.ca/20:10
micahghttp://imagebin.ca/view/JsAXG2.html20:11
asacchecking20:12
ftai see that too20:12
ftaon my x64 desktop20:12
micahgfta: it's mozilla bug 52798020:13
ubottuMozilla bug 527980 in Graphics "Square characters in menus and tab titles" [Trivial,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52798020:13
ftabut after a while, the square disappear and a replaced by the expected char20:13
asacmicahg: isnt that a different theme?20:13
micahghmmm20:13
fta+s +re20:13
asacwhat are those UTF issues there20:13
micahgthat's our build20:13
asacnext to create profile etc.20:13
asacwe cannot display ...20:14
asac?20:14
asacmicahg: so upstream ffox does not pickup the theme?20:14
ftano we can display "..."20:14
asacmicahg: also not sure if its an issue here, but comparing the profile manager might be misleading20:14
ftacan't20:14
asaci think at that point moz isnt fully initialized ...20:14
asacso the theming, fonts etc. might not work20:15
ftai see often that in tabs, widgets, title bar20:16
ftasometimes inside pages20:16
asacthe ... ?20:16
asachmm20:16
micahgI wanted to eliminate profile issues20:16
micahgthat's why I took the shot there20:16
asacright, but rather use a fresh profile i would think20:17
asacnot the profile manager itself20:17
micahgissues show up in fresh profiles too20:17
ftamicahg, did you try to bissect with the ppa?20:17
micahgfta: ?20:17
ftatry older builds20:17
ftai started a few weeks ago iirc20:17
micahgoh, it happened after beta 120:17
ftait20:17
micahgbetween beta 1 and beta 220:18
ftaif we have two close revno, we can review the patches that landed in between20:18
micahgI haven't tried to narrow it down yet20:18
micahg32658 and 3282720:19
ftathat's a lot of revs20:21
micahgI'm going to see if they patched cairo after beta 120:21
micahgthey have some quartz patches on nov 6720:23
micahgnov 620:23
fta"Merge all Cairo/Quartz patches from trunk"20:24
ftar3277120:24
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/327110/20:25
ftahuge20:25
micahgyeah, let me update the bug20:25
ftawhy would it be cairo btw?20:25
micahgwhen one of the testers disabled system cairo, the problem went away20:26
ftait's probably easier to locate with 3.7, where commits land one by one, instead of in 3.6, with huge merges20:29
ftai see it in 3.7 btw20:29
micahgyes, but I don't know when it broke on trunk, I only know it broke for me between beta 1 and beta 220:29
micahgfta: if you tried trunk on hardy I bet it would work from the daily ppa20:29
ftamaybe20:30
ftaasac, the meta bug: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=2828720:30
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ftalpia is dead21:12
micahgyay!21:20
micahglees FTBFS reports21:20
micahgfta: karlt at mozilla found the cairo regression21:24
ftayep, got the email21:25
BUGabundobRoas21:41
ftabonsoir21:45
BUGabundoola fta21:47
BUGabundoasac around ?21:47
ftanot sure21:47
ftahe was21:47
BUGabundoI got a strange dent from him21:49
BUGabundoabout gwibber fix , and thanked me....21:50
asacBUGabundo: ?21:53
asacoh yeah21:53
asacnotify-osd bubbles merging two dents from same person into one bubble21:53
BUGabundoyep21:53
BUGabundoI don't know what *I* did, but thanks for thanking me21:53
ftalol21:54
BUGabundo:p21:54
asacBUGabundo: hehe . well you just sent two dents quickly22:31
asactwo or more to be acciurate22:31
BUGabundoaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh22:31
BUGabundowell that's me!22:31
asac;)22:32
micahgasac: can I set up milestones in FF to match the versions to target bugs to?22:32
micahgit seems like a better idea than tagging22:32
av`asac, did you have any chance to talk about the mozilla seed for archive reorg?22:33
av`at UDS22:33
asacav`: not much ... but from what i understand we still have plenty of time ;)22:34
asaclike january22:34
asacor something22:34
av`asac, ok, looks fine22:34
av`let's take it in time anyway22:34
av`so we don't have to rush if we see something going wrong22:35
asacright22:36
micahgasac: can you review? http://pastebin.com/f7414d15422:39
asacmicahg: i cant speak/read slovak ;) ... if the guy filing the bug looks somewhat assocaited to the slovak translation team its probably ok22:44
asacotherwise ask dpm or ArneGoetje to get a verify if you are not sure22:44
micahgasac: I was referring to my comment and how I made it not the translation22:44
asacdpm at least should be able to get an ack from the official slovak translation lead or something22:45
asacbug 44868322:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 448683 in firefox-3.5 "change slovak translation of menu entry" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44868322:45
micahgasac: do you want me to get an official ack?22:45
asacmicahg: reporter claims to be slovak LP admin22:48
asacwhich probably means its ok ... just validate that he really is the translation lead of slovak team22:48
asacthen it should be fine22:48
micahgwas wondering about my changelog entry22:48
asacnot sure what you meant by saying "I was referring to my comment and how I made it not the translation"22:49
micahgchangelog entry22:49
asacnot sure what oyu mean. if you sak me i would say: "fix .desktop Name field for slovak translation"22:49
micahgyep, he's an admin22:49
micahgasac: that's what I was asking22:50
asacyeah ;)22:50
asacuse whatever you think is comprehensible22:50
micahgasac: should I push to all 3 .head branches?22:50
asacyes. please22:50
micahgI figured it was an easy fix22:51
micahgI'll do that later tonight22:51
micahgasac: are we giving up on extensions in the archvie?22:51
asacmicahg: i am not sure22:58
asacyet ... rationalism says yes. emotions say no ;)22:58
asacmaybe we should focus on the ones that have binary components ... as those are not available in amo for all arhcs22:59
asacand work on process to update them as firefox moves ahead23:00
asachowever, we cannot really guarantee that they suddenly dont disappear either23:00
asace.g. upstream extension gets abandoned or does not make it in time etc.23:00
asacwhich would mean we need to forward port it on our own if we dont want extensions to suddenly not work anymore23:00
BUGabundoare gwibber updates stalled?23:00
BUGabundoor am I using the wrong PPA ?23:00
asaci dont think we do updates to archive at this point of cycle23:01
av`BUGabundo, are you alwais running the edge? :)23:01
asacyou probably need daily for that23:01
micahgasac: ok, is there a plan for FF updates yet?23:01
BUGabundoasac: *ppa*23:01
* micahg was in the meeting23:01
* BUGabundo slaps asac silly23:01
BUGabundo  Installed: 2.0.0~bzr481-0ubuntu1~daily123:02
av`BUGabundo, you didnt get crazy yet by installing all the dailies?23:03
av`e.g updating every day several packages23:03
ftai don't update every day, i update when i want to :)23:04
av`it looks reasonable then :)23:04
BUGabundowell on 3G (most of times 2G) and 1GBs of BW23:05
BUGabundoI don't do that many updates23:05
BUGabundoav`: $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/327198/23:05
BUGabundohave fun23:05
av`lol23:06
micahgasac: PM?23:06
asacBUGabundo: well. gwibber is mostly segphault ... then kenvandine and me together with random conributors ... all of us were at uds ;)23:10
BUGabundofor 1 month?23:11
asacBUGabundo: well ;) ... thats what happening. maybe new stuff lands on a branch and not trunk ;)23:29
micahgasac: BTW, i pushed through a uim fix in Lucid last night which was crashing FF in karmic, I also prepared an SRU for karmic23:47

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