[00:14] <micahg> asac: I'd like to discuss milestones in LP for mozilla stuff
[00:15] <micahg> asac: can wait till tomorrow if it's too late
[07:49] <micahg> yoasif: ping
[12:04] <dholbach> hola!
[12:07] <asac> _Tsk_: hey, does tbird 3 allow you to create virtual folders for like "just starred" messages?
[12:07] <asac> dholbach: welcome ;) ^^
[12:09] <_Tsk_> asac yes  Search  select status is stared
[12:09] <dholbach> status! ah!
[12:09]  * dholbach tries it out
[12:11] <dholbach> _Tsk_: you are a rockstar!
[12:11] <dholbach> thanks a lot!
[12:11] <dholbach> asac: thank you too!
[12:11]  * dholbach is happy
[12:11] <_Tsk_> dholbach:  I'm not ....
[12:11] <dholbach> _Tsk_: you!
[12:11] <dholbach> _Tsk_: you are! :)
[12:11] <asac> great ;)
[12:11] <asac> thx a lot
[14:59] <fta2> hi
[15:00] <fta2> asac, a few days ago, i ended up fixing my bug in evolution (preventing me from using it for work)
[15:00] <fta2> (just fyi)
[15:22] <asac> fta2: made a patch?
[15:25] <fta2> sort of, i don't know the code base well enough to make it clean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/326916/  it's in my sandbox ppa
[15:29] <fta2> asac, ^^
[15:32] <asac> fta2: what were the symptoms again?
[15:33] <asac> like "from" from headers was wrong in which way?
[15:33] <fta2> it's in the bug
[15:33] <fta2> gnome 585577
[15:34] <fta2> (this has nothing to do with multiple accounts)
[15:34] <fta2> tb has the same problem
[15:56] <asac> hmm ok
[15:56] <asac> post your patch in upstream bug and see what they think ;)
[15:56] <asac> fta2: ^
[16:04] <fta2> it's clearly ugly
[16:45] <debfx> hi, I'm interested in helping to integrate the kde integration from opensuse into ubuntu
[16:46] <debfx> one problem I noticed is that the kde helper application needs a firefox icon to display (e.g. in the download finished notification)
[16:47] <debfx> is there an easy way to detect which branding/window icon is used?
[16:55] <asac> debfx: will be there in a few
[16:55] <asac> (on a call)
[16:55] <dholbach> asac, _Tsk_: I think I like TB3
[16:55] <dholbach> are we going to have it in lucid? :)
[16:55] <asac> great ;)
[17:41] <asac> dtchen: there?
[17:41] <asac> problems with the pulse plugin
[17:45] <debfx> asac: ping :)
[18:03] <micahg> yoasif: were you having firefox crash problems?
[18:15] <yoasif> micahg, i realized that it was caused by gnome globalmenu :/
[18:15] <yoasif> removed that and it works fine now
[18:15] <micahg> ah, ok
[18:17] <micahg> good, I fixed another one last night and was trying to find someone who had the issue to test
[19:02] <asac> dtchen: how can i check why an app does not get any input from my headset?
[19:02] <asac> seems it uses the pulse audio alsa plugin
[19:02] <asac> it appears in the applications list and stuff
[19:02] <asac> but nothing gets through the input device for whatever reason
[19:02] <asac> (i see peaks in the input device)
[19:02] <asac> on sound preferences
[19:02] <asac> so in general it works
[19:02] <asac> also it worked like two days agp
[19:03] <asac> was there any proposed upstream that might have killed it ?
[19:25] <fta> kenvandine, i see you've retargetted the gwibber packaging branch to follow the 2.0 branch instead of trunk. In the past, it didn't work well, it was 1.2, and the 1.2 branch never went anywhere past the branching, so we moved back to trunk
[19:26] <fta> not to mention that -daily is better served with trunk, and that maintaining two branches is painful
[19:31] <kenvandine> fta, well we need to be able to cherry pick fixes into karmic
[19:31] <kenvandine> we do not want to push stuff from trunk into karmic
[19:32] <micahg> asac: looks like we have a system cairo bug in Firefox 3.6
[19:32] <asac> hmm
[19:32] <asac> micahg: we use system cairo at all?
[19:33] <micahg> in karmic
[19:33] <micahg> mozilla bug 527890
[19:33] <micahg> mozilla bug 527980
[19:33]  * micahg is typing dyslexicly
[19:34] <fta> kenvandine, maybe we need a .karmic branch then, otherwise dailies will stale pretty quick
[19:34] <fta> asac, what do you think?
[19:34] <asac> fta: gwibber?
[19:34] <asac> if gwibber moves to latest crack then yes.
[19:35] <kenvandine> fta, dailies should be latest crack
[19:35] <kenvandine> there will be lots of work going on in trunk
[19:35] <kenvandine> but only bug fixes for the 2.0 branch
[19:36] <kenvandine> expect lots of changes in trunk
[19:36] <fta> sure but the branch that is currently followed for the dailies is the one you touched
[19:36] <kenvandine> i touched both of them
[19:36] <fta> hm
[19:36] <kenvandine> oh, dailies coming from packaging?
[19:36] <kenvandine> i see...
[19:37] <kenvandine> so what builds from packaging.trunk?
[19:37] <fta> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-confs/annotate/head:/ppabot-pkgs-gwibber.conf
[19:38] <fta> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/revision/15
[19:38] <micahg> asac: should I file a bug against cairo?
[19:38] <fta> so since 2009-09-01, the bot follows lp:~gwibber-team/gwibber/packaging
[19:38]  * kenvandine didn't know you had a bot, that's cool :)
[19:38] <asac> i am going crazy ... two hours tried to get this headset working ... now it just started working without knowing what has changed :/
[19:39] <fta> kenvandine, where did you think the dailies came from??
[19:39] <kenvandine> asac, i hate it when that happens
[19:39] <kenvandine> i thought trunk
[19:39] <kenvandine> what builds from packaging.trunk?
[19:39] <fta> probably nothing since september
[19:39] <kenvandine> oh... humm
[19:40] <asac> ok rebooting and see if it works still (i doubt it
[19:40] <fta> fyi, i run a bunch of dailies on my own servs: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/files
[19:40] <kenvandine> i would thing it would make more sense for the packaging.trunk branch to build dailies
[19:41] <fta> i should, but iirc, i changed it because the other branch was dead (all the commits were going to the non trunk branch)
[19:41] <kenvandine> that won't be the case now
[19:42] <fta> ok, great, so i will change it back
[19:42] <kenvandine> trunk will get a ton of changes and we will cherry pick bug fixes into the gwibber/2.0 branch
[19:42] <kenvandine> thx!
[19:42] <kenvandine> fta, what do you use to drive the builds?
[19:48] <fta> kenvandine, my own bot: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-scripts/files
[19:50] <kenvandine> cool
[19:52] <asac> micahg: i am not sure we should file a bug against cairo
[19:52] <asac> isnt the in-source cairo ahead of ours?
[19:52] <asac> maybe its fixed already?
[19:53] <micahg> ok, no, they seem to have a patched version of cairo
[19:55] <asac> we should check why the patch doesnt exist
[19:55] <asac> upstream
[19:55] <asac> err wasnt applied
[19:55] <asac> i would expect that moz folks discussed this with them
[19:55] <asac> as vlad also does cairo upstrema
[19:55] <micahg> well, as soon as I have more information, I'll let you know
[19:55] <asac> thx
[19:56] <micahg> also, their cairo looks ugly
[19:56] <asac> hmm
[19:56] <asac> why?
[19:56] <micahg> it's blocky
[19:56] <asac> blocky?
[19:56] <asac> what does that mean?
[19:56] <asac> you mean without proper font anti aliasing?
[19:56] <micahg> more outlined
[19:56] <asac> or pixmap scaling?
[19:56] <micahg> idk
[19:57] <asac> so unrelated to fonts?
[19:57] <micahg> have you tried their build yet?
[19:57] <asac> not 3.6
[19:57] <asac> otherwise yes
[19:57] <micahg> yes, the way the windows look
[19:57] <asac> i know that their font situation is even worse than ours
[19:57] <micahg> I guess the fonts too, but it's more like the windows look like win 3.1
[19:58] <asac> dtchen: its odd .. somehow it works now to get input through tha alsa pulse plugin ... BUT
[19:58] <asac> the application is now greyed in the "Applications" tab
[19:58] <asac> (though i see it still)
[19:58] <asac> does that mean anything?
[19:58] <asac> previously input from mic didnt work, but the app was not greyed
[19:58] <asac> micahg: have a screen?
[20:00] <fta> micahg, the patches are listed here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.1/source/gfx/cairo/
[20:00] <fta> and explained in the README
[20:01] <fta> i wish http://code.google.com/p/gyp/issues/detail?id=119 was fixed, so i can complete my package
[20:04] <micahg> is there an image pastebin?
[20:10] <fta> several, like http://imagebin.ca/
[20:11] <micahg> http://imagebin.ca/view/JsAXG2.html
[20:12] <asac> checking
[20:12] <fta> i see that too
[20:12] <fta> on my x64 desktop
[20:13] <micahg> fta: it's mozilla bug 527980
[20:13] <fta> but after a while, the square disappear and a replaced by the expected char
[20:13] <asac> micahg: isnt that a different theme?
[20:13] <micahg> hmmm
[20:13] <fta> +s +re
[20:13] <asac> what are those UTF issues there
[20:13] <micahg> that's our build
[20:13] <asac> next to create profile etc.
[20:14] <asac> we cannot display ...
[20:14] <asac> ?
[20:14] <asac> micahg: so upstream ffox does not pickup the theme?
[20:14] <fta> no we can display "..."
[20:14] <asac> micahg: also not sure if its an issue here, but comparing the profile manager might be misleading
[20:14] <fta> can't
[20:14] <asac> i think at that point moz isnt fully initialized ...
[20:15] <asac> so the theming, fonts etc. might not work
[20:16] <fta> i see often that in tabs, widgets, title bar
[20:16] <fta> sometimes inside pages
[20:16] <asac> the ... ?
[20:16] <asac> hmm
[20:16] <micahg> I wanted to eliminate profile issues
[20:16] <micahg> that's why I took the shot there
[20:17] <asac> right, but rather use a fresh profile i would think
[20:17] <asac> not the profile manager itself
[20:17] <micahg> issues show up in fresh profiles too
[20:17] <fta> micahg, did you try to bissect with the ppa?
[20:17] <micahg> fta: ?
[20:17] <fta> try older builds
[20:17] <fta> i started a few weeks ago iirc
[20:17] <micahg> oh, it happened after beta 1
[20:17] <fta> it
[20:18] <micahg> between beta 1 and beta 2
[20:18] <fta> if we have two close revno, we can review the patches that landed in between
[20:18] <micahg> I haven't tried to narrow it down yet
[20:19] <micahg> 32658 and 32827
[20:21] <fta> that's a lot of revs
[20:21] <micahg> I'm going to see if they patched cairo after beta 1
[20:23] <micahg> they have some quartz patches on nov 67
[20:23] <micahg> nov 6
[20:24] <fta> "Merge all Cairo/Quartz patches from trunk"
[20:24] <fta> r32771
[20:25] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/327110/
[20:25] <fta> huge
[20:25] <micahg> yeah, let me update the bug
[20:25] <fta> why would it be cairo btw?
[20:26] <micahg> when one of the testers disabled system cairo, the problem went away
[20:29] <fta> it's probably easier to locate with 3.7, where commits land one by one, instead of in 3.6, with huge merges
[20:29] <fta> i see it in 3.7 btw
[20:29] <micahg> yes, but I don't know when it broke on trunk, I only know it broke for me between beta 1 and beta 2
[20:29] <micahg> fta: if you tried trunk on hardy I bet it would work from the daily ppa
[20:30] <fta> maybe
[20:30] <fta> asac, the meta bug: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287
[21:12] <fta> lpia is dead
[21:20] <micahg> yay!
[21:20] <micahg> lees FTBFS reports
[21:24] <micahg> fta: karlt at mozilla found the cairo regression
[21:25] <fta> yep, got the email
[21:41] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[21:45] <fta> bonsoir
[21:47] <BUGabundo> ola fta
[21:47] <BUGabundo> asac around ?
[21:47] <fta> not sure
[21:47] <fta> he was
[21:49] <BUGabundo> I got a strange dent from him
[21:50] <BUGabundo> about gwibber fix , and thanked me....
[21:53] <asac> BUGabundo: ?
[21:53] <asac> oh yeah
[21:53] <asac> notify-osd bubbles merging two dents from same person into one bubble
[21:53] <BUGabundo> yep
[21:53] <BUGabundo> I don't know what *I* did, but thanks for thanking me
[21:54] <fta> lol
[21:54] <BUGabundo> :p
[22:31] <asac> BUGabundo: hehe . well you just sent two dents quickly
[22:31] <asac> two or more to be acciurate
[22:31] <BUGabundo> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:31] <BUGabundo> well that's me!
[22:32] <asac> ;)
[22:32] <micahg> asac: can I set up milestones in FF to match the versions to target bugs to?
[22:32] <micahg> it seems like a better idea than tagging
[22:33] <av`> asac, did you have any chance to talk about the mozilla seed for archive reorg?
[22:33] <av`> at UDS
[22:34] <asac> av`: not much ... but from what i understand we still have plenty of time ;)
[22:34] <asac> like january
[22:34] <asac> or something
[22:34] <av`> asac, ok, looks fine
[22:34] <av`> let's take it in time anyway
[22:35] <av`> so we don't have to rush if we see something going wrong
[22:36] <asac> right
[22:39] <micahg> asac: can you review? http://pastebin.com/f7414d154
[22:44] <asac> micahg: i cant speak/read slovak ;) ... if the guy filing the bug looks somewhat assocaited to the slovak translation team its probably ok
[22:44] <asac> otherwise ask dpm or ArneGoetje to get a verify if you are not sure
[22:44] <micahg> asac: I was referring to my comment and how I made it not the translation
[22:45] <asac> dpm at least should be able to get an ack from the official slovak translation lead or something
[22:45] <asac> bug 448683
[22:45] <micahg> asac: do you want me to get an official ack?
[22:48] <asac> micahg: reporter claims to be slovak LP admin
[22:48] <asac> which probably means its ok ... just validate that he really is the translation lead of slovak team
[22:48] <asac> then it should be fine
[22:48] <micahg> was wondering about my changelog entry
[22:49] <asac> not sure what you meant by saying "I was referring to my comment and how I made it not the translation"
[22:49] <micahg> changelog entry
[22:49] <asac> not sure what oyu mean. if you sak me i would say: "fix .desktop Name field for slovak translation"
[22:49] <micahg> yep, he's an admin
[22:50] <micahg> asac: that's what I was asking
[22:50] <asac> yeah ;)
[22:50] <asac> use whatever you think is comprehensible
[22:50] <micahg> asac: should I push to all 3 .head branches?
[22:50] <asac> yes. please
[22:51] <micahg> I figured it was an easy fix
[22:51] <micahg> I'll do that later tonight
[22:51] <micahg> asac: are we giving up on extensions in the archvie?
[22:58] <asac> micahg: i am not sure
[22:58] <asac> yet ... rationalism says yes. emotions say no ;)
[22:59] <asac> maybe we should focus on the ones that have binary components ... as those are not available in amo for all arhcs
[23:00] <asac> and work on process to update them as firefox moves ahead
[23:00] <asac> however, we cannot really guarantee that they suddenly dont disappear either
[23:00] <asac> e.g. upstream extension gets abandoned or does not make it in time etc.
[23:00] <asac> which would mean we need to forward port it on our own if we dont want extensions to suddenly not work anymore
[23:00] <BUGabundo> are gwibber updates stalled?
[23:00] <BUGabundo> or am I using the wrong PPA ?
[23:01] <asac> i dont think we do updates to archive at this point of cycle
[23:01] <av`> BUGabundo, are you alwais running the edge? :)
[23:01] <asac> you probably need daily for that
[23:01] <micahg> asac: ok, is there a plan for FF updates yet?
[23:01] <BUGabundo> asac: *ppa*
[23:01]  * micahg was in the meeting
[23:01]  * BUGabundo slaps asac silly
[23:02] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 2.0.0~bzr481-0ubuntu1~daily1
[23:03] <av`> BUGabundo, you didnt get crazy yet by installing all the dailies?
[23:03] <av`> e.g updating every day several packages
[23:04] <fta> i don't update every day, i update when i want to :)
[23:04] <av`> it looks reasonable then :)
[23:05] <BUGabundo> well on 3G (most of times 2G) and 1GBs of BW
[23:05] <BUGabundo> I don't do that many updates
[23:05] <BUGabundo> av`: $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/327198/
[23:05] <BUGabundo> have fun
[23:06] <av`> lol
[23:06] <micahg> asac: PM?
[23:10] <asac> BUGabundo: well. gwibber is mostly segphault ... then kenvandine and me together with random conributors ... all of us were at uds ;)
[23:11] <BUGabundo> for 1 month?
[23:29] <asac> BUGabundo: well ;) ... thats what happening. maybe new stuff lands on a branch and not trunk ;)
[23:47] <micahg> asac: BTW, i pushed through a uim fix in Lucid last night which was crashing FF in karmic, I also prepared an SRU for karmic