[00:00] What type of information will be available via anonymous access to the IRC tracker? [00:01] We haven't made that decision yet. [00:02] Pici: Ok, hopefully nothing too sensitive [00:02] nhandler: of course [00:34] kostkon called the ops in #ubuntu (please kick helpmeplease) [00:36] tsimpson called the ops in #ubuntu () [00:36] tsimpson, congrats! [00:36] well deserved hall of fame :) [00:37] :) [01:37] Well, that was fun. [02:15] people who have n=root@ in their nick are supposed to be yanked aside, right? [02:17] they are? [02:17] not necessarily [02:17] never heard that [02:17] you can set it to root without being root [02:17] I normally just point out that they should not be running their IRC client as root [02:18] I think we have [02:18] just as a friendly reminder [02:18] !rootirc [02:18] It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [02:18] heh === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [04:19] Ubuntu is cancer and as a result i must adapt. To adapt i will make cytotoxic t cells [04:23] Cytotoxic, say again? [04:26] dwhite, can we help you? [04:26] no, just browsing... [04:26] thank you [04:27] Cytotoxic: please respect our topic [04:27] dwhite, if you're here to spectate whatever Cytotoxic is trying to pull, then that's not really appropriate. please do not spectate or idle here. [04:27] dwhite, dont listen to them they accuse me of trolling but i dont [04:28] so just kline me for another 3 days! [04:28] this channel has nothing to do with klines. [04:28] I will wait here all night until tomorrow until i get klined [04:28] Nailoth kilined me before irc [04:28] that is because nalioth is a staff member. that's irrelevant to his being here. [04:29] !staff [04:29] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :) [04:29] maybe they will kline me [04:29] dwhite, goodbye. [04:29] dwhite: if you have nothing for us, please respect our topic [04:39] HFSPLUS called the ops in #ubuntu-irc () [04:41] HFSPLUS called the ops in #ubuntu-motu () [04:41] HFSPLUS called the ops in #ubuntu-devel () [04:41] HFSPLUS called the ops in #ubuntu-server () [04:42] What a lovely person [04:44] not in any of those channels myself - was that hfsplus spamming us, or him reacting to someone else hitting all those channels? [04:44] no, it was hfsplus asking for a kline [04:45] I figured as much. [04:46] @login [04:46] The operation succeeded. [04:46] hfsplus = cytotoxic, btw [04:46] Madpilot: ^^ [04:47] a great surprise [04:48] !ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:48] But ops-#ubuntu-devel already means something else! [04:48] ubottu: forget !ops-#ubuntu-devel [04:48] I know nothing about !ops-#ubuntu-devel yet, mneptok [04:49] silly short-bus-riding bot... [04:49] ubottu no, !ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:49] I know nothing about !ops-#ubuntu-devel yet, mneptok [04:49] !ops-#ubuntu-devel [04:49] Help! Hobbsee, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk [04:49] FFS [04:51] If you ubottu it, you don't need the ! [04:52] ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:52] ubottu? [04:52] ubottu: ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:52] But ops-#ubuntu-devel already means something else! [04:52] ubottu: forget ops-#ubuntu-devel [04:52] I'll forget that, mneptok [04:52] ubottu: ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:52] !ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:53] ubottu: !ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:53] But ops-#ubuntu-devel already means something else! [04:53] i give up [04:54] @login [04:54] The operation succeeded. [04:55] ubottu, no ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:55] I know nothing about ops-#ubuntu-devel yet, Madpilot [04:55] stupid bot [04:55] ubottu: ops-#ubuntu\-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:55] I'll remember that, mneptok [04:55] bingo! [04:55] !ops-#ubuntu-devel [04:55] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:55] was just wondering if you had to escape the - or something [04:56] oh lawd [04:56] ... or maybe not... [04:56] !ops-#ubuntu\-devel [04:56] Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [04:57] that is decidedly unhelpful [04:57] who runs the poor thing these days, anyway? [04:57] mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-devel () [04:58] You don't need to escape the - [04:58] Hmm [05:30] Woah, the blinken red lights are blinken. [05:31] mneptok: you need to unforget ops-u-d, and then "no, ops-u-d". [05:33] mneptok: ubottu never forgets and the factoid is kept in the database (SQLite powered tho), hence why it's refusing the new one. [05:33] That or something weird is happening. [05:34] I have weeks worth of backups of the db tho. [05:36] ubottu: unforget ops-#ubuntu-devel [05:36] I suddenly remember ops-#ubuntu-devel again, mneptok [05:36] ubottu, no, ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [05:36] I'll remember that mneptok [05:36] !ops-#ubuntu-devel [05:36] Help! Channel emergency! mneptok, Hobbsee, cjwatson, mdz, lamont, Keybuk, or thom! [05:36] jpds: i owe you a Coke [05:37] hey, it works. silly bot. [05:37] mneptok: Hey, no problem, come visit me in Montrel/London at some point. :) [05:37] jpds: Montreal is likely for the PHPcon there. [05:38] (and for a poutine fix from Dilallo) [05:41] everyone blames the bot [05:42] *learn to use it* ;) [05:42] so much simpler just to blame the bot :) [05:42] besides, the 'stuff you tell the bot to forget isn't actually forgotten' thing seems... counterintuitive, at best. [05:43] well I didn't design it, I'm just lumped with unbreaking/maintaining it [05:44] but there isn't really a good one-word term for "forget something without forgetting it, but pretend that you have, unless I tell you not to" [05:54] yeah, "completely borked beyond belief" is 4 words. [05:55] tsimpson: +1 [05:56] tsimpson: I guess ignore? but meh [05:56] It's not forgotten, it's marked as deleted. [05:56] we have a whole list of instructions though [05:56] Flannel: i'll try that approach as regards ex-girlfriends and my wife. [05:58] mneptok: You'd probably want to not do it to your wife. Lest you wind up with invalid aliases. [05:59] Flannel: are you ... hitting on me? [05:59] O;) [05:59] mneptok: What's not to love about http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/5/55/Mnepolo.png [06:00] oh dog, that image again... [06:01] Flannel: WHY!!!!!!!!!!! [06:01] ? [06:03] Jesus. [06:03] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux [06:03] Seriosuly?! [06:04] It's uncyclopedia, what do you expect? [06:05] LOL “Ubuntu, now with non-random OpenSSL keys” [06:05] ~ OpenSSL on Ubuntu [06:05] “Ubuntu, now with random OpenSSL keys” [06:05] ~ OpenSSL-blacklist on Ubuntu [06:05] openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2 (jaunty), package size 392 kB, installed size 836 kB [06:05] openssl-blacklist: list of blacklisted OpenSSL RSA keys. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 6189 kB, installed size 12240 kB [06:05] * maco blinks [06:06] maco: ubot3 takes ~ in here [06:06] well, that was contextual [06:06] jussi01: i see [06:06] but then again, its still weird it did that.. [06:06] that ones probably still running the code where !someing falls back to package lookup [06:07] ahh [06:10] if anyone cares, my caption for that picture is, "my hair is luxurious. touch it." [06:10] makes me feel sorta Fabio-esque. [06:11] mneptok: stop.... [06:11] do not mention That Picture. evar. [06:12] * Madpilot watches the Dance of the Floodbots in #ubuntu. [06:13] my picture is *nothing* compared to photos of cr3 in the mankini during the Dublin sprint. [06:14] * tsimpson things floodbot4 has issues [06:18] mneptok: wait, is that really you? this is the red leather pants conversation from the UW session? [06:20] maco: scary thing is, I do beleive that is actually mneptok.... [06:21] yeah...just different hair [06:21] can we put censor bars over his torso? [06:22] mneptok, python [06:23] hahaha mneptok: dtchen refuses to look at you [06:25] i'm pretty certain that this conversation breaches at least one amendment of the Geneva Convention [06:25] maco: most people who have seen that photo do... [06:26] elky, there's a clause in the Conventions against weapons-grade photography? [06:26] Madpilot, i figure it easily qualifies for 'cruel and unusual punishment' [06:31] lol [06:31] btw, I has wave invites if anyone still needs [06:36] same [06:36] maco: yes, that's me in the U/Rhode Island Theater Dept costume shop [06:37] maco: i had .... errr .... uhhhh .... "business" there [06:37] @btlogin [06:37] c1995, IIRC [06:45] btw, just for anyone who didnt see... http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/ [06:46] yep [06:47] the bots attack of a week or so ago left some forwards of them to ubuntu-read-topic (and there are some much older ones as well): safe to remove from banlist? what about some of the various.freenode.net bans from more than a month ago that are no longer seen as being by an operator? [06:48] bazhang: the bot attack ones should be removed after 14 days, if they are not, feel free to remove. [06:49] jussi01, okay, thanks. What about the more than month old ones from various people that no longer show up in the banlist as from them [06:49] double check the others against the bt, thattl tell you who the op is. for extra credit, have a look at the situatin, and if more than a month old and a straight ban, consider removal. [06:50] jussi01, have done so (ie checked against the operator --some from Seeker` mneptok and a couple others ) a month to six weeks old [06:51] err the bantracker not operator [06:51] dont want to tread on any toes but there are still roughly 260 some bans in the list [06:52] yeah, perhaps make a list, unless you lok at the situation and feel they could easily be removed. [06:53] the last list I made was largely not dealt with [06:54] bazhang: make sure I get it. Ill make sure peole doe something. and for extra brownie points here, make the list in a format somewhere that peole can tick off/remove the bans they removed from it. [07:24] what we do for fun in Albuquerque - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNW9cYY4tqc [07:30] mneptok: that is a heck of a lot of ladders [07:33] mneptok: also, I'm a little bit amused by the "yeah, but can it run crysis?" comment. [07:34] I wonder how long it takes to boot a computer with that many nodes - I'm guessing they stagger them for power reasons. [07:36] so, *can* it run an FPS? [07:36] :) [07:36] if we ran ubottu from there, we wouldn't need a new bantracker [07:41] lol [07:41] tsimpson: right, because with that kind of CPU power, ubottu would crash in microseconds after every restart :P [07:42] * mneptok tootles off to bed [07:42] nah, because we could store the entire ban database in RAM ;) [07:43] We're turning the bantracker into a FPS? [07:43] being an IRC op is like a text mode FPS. [07:44] Flannel, +1 [07:44] mneptok: It'd be more like a MUD, but yes. [07:46] hahah [07:46] wth is a MUD? [07:46] jussi01: really? [07:46] really... [07:46] MUD is Multi User Dungeon [07:47] * jussi01 is not a gamer [07:47] ok... [07:47] think of it like... zork, but online with other people, and... with combat. [07:47] Online RPGs, textmode. [07:49] hrm [07:49] * mneptok sics a grue on Flannel [07:49] '1grue [07:49] mneptok: I have my lantern! [07:50] !grue [07:50] The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29 and seveas [07:56] good morning [07:56] Howdy dholbach [07:58] you know, to this day, when I walk through a dark part of the house, I think, "It is very dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue." [07:59] Zork has burned itself into some impossibly deep crevice of my mind. [07:59] That crevice is probably inhabited by a Grue [07:59] quite likely [08:01] hi Flannel === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:20] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (freenode-sucks) [09:22] that was amazing. [09:22] erm [09:23] truly amazing. [09:23] three of us for one troll. heh. [09:23] Spiix seems to be giving dodgy advice in #ubuntu [09:23] bazhang: Moreso than just sudo su? [09:24] Oh yep, debian deb files [09:24] Flannel, ardchoille has been watching him for a bit, PM'd about it [09:25] jussi01, not really interested in brownie points, just wanted to reduce the ban list. [09:58] Hi [09:58] Bacta, hi [09:59] I think we can both agree that it is now "a couple of days"? [10:03] Bacta, you were banned in #kubuntu and #ubuntu for being offtopic [10:03] And #ubuntu-offtopic? [10:04] Bacta, the ban in -ot I am not familiar with, it was related to ongoing trolling there iirc [10:04] I said (and I quote) "I'm here to troll" [10:04] and 90 minutes later after the event I was banned [10:04] Bacta, lets cut to the chase [10:04] Sure [10:05] Bacta, this is not a one time incident but a series of incidents over a very long period of time. [10:05] That is true [10:05] But I feel my behaviour has been much better recently [10:06] as such, even suggesting you are trolling is going to make you suspect, due to the very long history of doing so. [10:06] That is true [10:06] Bacta, if you would like my take on it? [10:07] Yes, go ahead [10:07] Bacta, stick to some of the non-Ubuntu channels for support for the near term. [10:08] similarly #defocus or other chat channels for offtopic chat. [10:08] You obviously have no clue what the word Ubuntu means do you? [10:08] So I'm now officially banned for the forseeable future from the support channel of my OS of choice? [10:09] freenode is a very small community, and that being the case, we all bump into one another sharing various channels. [10:09] Bacta, that was my suggestion alone. Which you said you would hear out. [10:10] I'm guessing your an Ubuntu staffer [10:10] Bacta, you are more than welcome to speak to ikonia to get unbanned from those three channels. [10:10] So what's the official verdict? [10:10] And no Freenode is not small, it's infact very large [10:10] ikonia doesn't want me PMing him [10:10] Bacta, not really interested in arguing with you [10:10] Can I wait here until he shows up? [10:11] Honey catches more flies than Vinegar [10:11] I've got no idea what that means [10:12] Being Pleasant and Agreeable will get results moreso than being argumentative et al ^^ [10:12] That is true [10:12] Can you recommend an alternative Ubuntu channel for support questions? I know there are a number of them [10:14] Bacta, you can /msg alis list *ubuntu* ; #freenode can advise on the further niceties of using -more and -less switches on that (ie to get more than 60 channels, the next 60, etc.) [10:14] not really sure myself, apologies [10:15] There aren't many good ones unless I can speak spanish or are interested in kernels unfortunately [10:15] Bacta: try ##linux and /msg nickserv info is usually pretty good for telling when someone is active [10:15] good luck Bacta [10:15] True but I am not allowed to PM ikonia so it would be good to respect his wishes [10:16] Bacta: yes, however, you can see when he is active. then you could come here to talk about it [10:16] Perhaps I should stop using Ubuntu altogether [10:16] And take my work to a more hospitable distro [10:17] Because while I have had a few issues in the past I've tried to improve and are less than impressed in this current situation [10:18] Sorry if I offended anyone but I suppose I was just thinking aloud [10:18] I have apologized to ikonia for my behaviour towards him by the way [10:18] Bacta: please don't troll. [10:18] jussi01: I am not trolling [10:19] I'm sick and tired of being told I'm a troll or being accused of trolling [10:19] Bacta, as he is not here, please don't idle, thanks. [10:19] bazhang, if you see him around feel free to pm me [10:19] Ad Im sick and tired of enduring your trolling. you and elky have been in depth regarding this and I think we are both clear on the situation [10:21] Bacta: Until we see a change in your behaviour, then in good concience to the rest of the ubuntu community we really cant unban you. [10:21] That is ikonia's decision to make jussi01 [10:59] * ikonia wakes [11:00] I'll have a conversation with bacta see if some consensus can be sorted out (get input from elky too) as it seems harsh to ban him going forward but his beahviour nees to stop [11:06] what a bad example [11:06] 10:07 * Bacta blows his troll horn [11:06] 10:07 <+Bacta> TROLLLLLLLL [11:06] 10:08 <+Levia> Bacta: Don't go start this again please [11:06] in #defocus, after that was explained to him it's a bad thing to do [11:10] oh for.... [11:10] permaban, and forget the twit [11:11] old-school, I know, but it saves time and visits from the drama llama. [11:12] there's more to it than that. [11:12] Madpilot: just talking to him now [11:12] see if we can find a way forward [11:25] just be careful. but I do tend to agree, if someone come in and causes issues, then its not so hard to reinstate the ban [11:25] also, has anyone seen jack_sparrow recently? [11:25] whoa floodbots freaking out [11:26] triple 'don't flood" messages [11:29] should be ok now [11:30] bazhang, they were on panic alert from the split [11:30] elky, okay thanks for the information. [11:31] always freaks me when i come back and find them all opped up, until i scroll up and see the carnage [11:32] elky, how are you feeling of late? improved I hope [11:32] i look human and consuming many less painkillers [11:32] * jussi01 prods at ikonia... [11:33] well human is good [11:33] elky: is human?? I thought she was a bot... o.O :P :P [11:34] except in cases of Mneptok [11:34] jussi01, look. i look human. [11:45] what's anyones thoughts on giving limcore another shot in #ubuntu ? [11:55] ikonia: Ive no issues. But please, if you are going to do it, it would be helpful if you could take ownership, record how we have him banned atme etc so if the ban needs to be reinstated... [11:56] grrrrrrr. i want 9.04's network manager back :( [11:57] jussi01: understood [11:57] * jussi01 just wants to sleep more... jet lag is killing me... [11:59] jussi01: would it be do-able to have a operator meeting to see who can help out with what/where/when [11:59] jussi01: that was clearly in the wrong channel - sorry [12:08] * jussi01 turns 3 today.... In LP years that is! :D [12:08] kids... [12:09] I'm glad my karma is back to 0 now (;) [12:09] Tm_T: how long have you had your LP account? [12:10] jussi01: almost 4 years now [12:10] apparently [12:10] I thought I had it longer than that [12:10] how long has it been around? [12:11] good question... [12:12] Launched [12:12] January 2004 [12:12] ...bad paste from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchpad_(website) [12:23] my karma is a terrific 118 [13:26] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu (Silver-Fox won't stop talking portuguese and, well) [14:20] * maco hugs Pici [15:29] erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (jimmy__) [16:26] serverbot is luke [16:42] elky: good to know you're on the mend. [18:34] dbart: Richard Lanoszka is the owner of Silent Register if you need to escalate anything. [19:11] ww. sorry [19:15] In ubottu, randomaction said: !sync is an import of a package (usually from Debian) without any modifications. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [19:27] !sync [19:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about sync [19:27] !syncrequest [19:27] Helpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [19:27] heh [19:27] just found that [19:28] was searching for it, I knew there was one somewhere [19:28] !sync is syncrequest [19:28] I'll remember that, jussi01 [19:28] :) [20:26] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:26] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:26] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:26] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:27] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:27] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:27] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:28] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:32] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:32] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:32] lolwut. [20:32] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:32] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:32] oh dear lord. [20:33] they're waiting until the +rR goes away [20:33] * jpds hugs LjL. [20:34] also, either 4 bots are one too many or i did something to the deopping parts of the code without realizing. [20:35] they flood a *tad* too much during that. [20:35] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:35] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:35] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:35] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:37] hello? [20:37] Hi. [20:37] jpds, that's not really true though... [20:38] +C only blocks CTCP sent to nicknames, not channels [20:38] Yes. [20:38] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:38] KindOne: how can we help you? [20:38] LjL: Having an anti-DCC channel mode would be awesome. [20:39] jpds: i think it's going to be available on seven [20:39] test-me [20:39] keppi: that doesn't work in this channel [20:39] keppi: wrong channel [20:39] keppi: you need to do it in #ubuntu-read-topic [20:39] keppi: however, it probably won't work for a while [20:39] If i type "/join #ubuntu" i get sent to "#ubuntu-read-topic" and i have read the page it sent me too... and i dont use any of the clients [20:40] KindOne: you seem to use mIRC [20:40] KindOne: you still need to change your port, i'll see if i find documentation for that [20:40] k thanks [20:40] Um i have been using mIRC forever and have been in the #ubuntu channel for a few days and this is the first time this has happened [20:41] KindOne: there's a first time for everything, isn't there [20:42] that is true lol [20:42] KindOne: google isn't being immediately helpful about changing ports in the mirc interface [20:42] KindOne: i suppose /server irc.freenode.net 8001 will work, but won't stick [20:42] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:42] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:43] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:43] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [20:43] i can set my mirc to use that port be default for this server. but... will tha tfix the issue premently ? [20:43]