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sbalneavevening all05:15
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sakhiMorning08:37
highvoltageMorning sakhi08:39
alkisg!info clusterssh12:10
ubottuclusterssh (source: clusterssh): administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26-1 (karmic), package size 52 kB, installed size 208 kB12:10
sbalneavMorning all14:42
highvoltagehi sbalneav14:57
highvoltagesbalneav: we're talking to the CC about the EC elections... it may turn into just a confirmation vote where we vote all 6 nominees in14:58
highvoltagesbalneav: I'm going to link to your wiki page too so I'm not sure if you'd perhaps like to remove the "Boy, is *that* a big mistake on your part." part :)14:58
sbalneavhighvoltage: Nope. :)15:03
sbalneavI yam what I yam.  If the CC doesn't think I'd make a suitable candidate because of that, then, well, they'll have to live with the consequences of that decision.15:04
highvoltagesbalneav: ok np!15:04
sbalneavI *do* think there probably be some input from the users, just in case Ace or Scott shows up and doesn't want one or the other of us around.  If we're voted in "by acclimation", there's always the appearance of impropriaty or croneyism.15:08
sbalneavs/probably/should probably/15:09
highvoltagesbalneav: well, everyone had a chance to put forward their nominations15:10
highvoltagesbalneav: if someone feels strongly that there were somoeone better for the job, they had their chance to nominate someone15:10
highvoltage(not that I disagree with you)15:11
sbalneavYup15:12
sbalneavTrue enough.15:13
alkisgIs the following idea for passwordless ssh an acceptable way to control many standalone clients from a server?18:56
alkisg1) Create ssh keys for the root user on the server: sudo ssh-keygen18:56
alkisg2) Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the clients, and specify: AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys18:56
alkisg3) Copy the public key of the server root user to the clients' /etc/ssh/authorized_keys18:56
alkisgThis way anyone with sudo privileges on the server could do: sudo ssh user@client and automatically logon there.18:56
alkisg(that would be really useful to run commands on all users on all clients simultaneously with clusterssh)18:57
alkisgAny tactical problems with this approach?18:57
sbalneavalkisg: What is it you want to do on the thin clients?19:07
alkisgsbalneav: standalone, not thin19:07
alkisgThis way I could ssh as root, and e.g. update or install programs on the clients,19:07
alkisgor I could logon as any user and run apps on behalf of the students locally19:08
sbalneavSeems reasonable.19:08
alkisgI'm thinking of starting two packages for this scenario, one "sch-server" would prepare the server for the teacher to sit there, and one "sch-client" would prepare the client19:09
alkisgSo except from remote command execution, I'd like to manage squid, some mandatory gnome and firefox settings etc19:09
alkisgThanks sbalneav :)19:10
sbalneavNP19:10
alkisgMeeting in 10 minutes? Or am I counting wrong again?19:52
stgraberMEETING20:00
highvoltageyes!20:02
highvoltage(#ubuntu-meeting)20:02
alkisgnubae, sbalneav: ^^^20:02
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nubaeoof when was that written?20:17
nubaeam I late?20:17
alkisgNot much, hop right in20:17
highvoltagesbalneav: the meeting is in #ubuntu-meeting ;)20:20
nubaewas anything else of interest mentioned?20:57
alkisglive ltsp, and no text installer...20:57
alkisg(except for classroom server and moodle)20:57
nubaeok..20:58
nubaealong with moodle, was consideration given to mahara and koha20:58
nubaeboth are really useful as a trio20:58
nubaekoha does librarry (especially for schools) management20:59
nubaeand mahara is an e-portfolio for kids to store their work in a more facebook like fashion, as well as learn how to present pages/their cvs, etc20:59
nubaethrough xmlrpc, the trio work very well, and it would give an edge compared to other distros21:00
nubaebut I suggest u take a look a their respective sites21:00
nubaethe cool thing is, info is very interconnected21:01
alkisgHey, those look interesting...21:01
highvoltagenubae: hmm, koha isn't packaged yet, although mahara seems to be21:01
nubaekoha isnt packaged,really? its the oldest of the 321:03
nubaeand is awsome for books management in schools/unis21:03
nubaemahara is nice cause its kinda drag and drop iterfacce and grabs details from moodle, and would do a lot of what is being attempted to do in moodle 2.021:04
nubaewhat would be nice of course is if we had a pre-xmlrcd version, so that on moodle or mahara install data is immediately interchangable21:05
nubaealso, and just off top of my head here... identi.ca?21:07
alkisgnubae: I was thinking about the telepathy stuff you were talking about some time ago, and utilizing it in a classroom. E.g. students collaborating with the help of empathy's "people nearby"... did you do something with telepathy, or you were just reading about it?21:09
nubaealkisg, 'm in the miiddle of a project with it21:13
nubaebut therer are already projects using it21:13
nubaeabiword, coccinella, vnc for multicasting, libjingle for multi videoconferencig21:14
alkisg"vnc for multicasting"???!!!21:14
alkisgWhere's that?!21:14
nubaethe gnome games package includes at least 3 games that use it, sudoku, tic tact toe21:15
nubaedo a search for telepathy and vnc or vinagre/vino21:15
nubaeits tightly integrted21:15
nubaeinkscpae uses it21:16
nubaethere are some SIP people managers, thunderbird uses it21:16
nubaefish around a little u'll find stuff, but the really interesting stuff is still  to be develloperd21:17
nubaeand I thik we could start with some LTSP plugins at least21:17
alkisgI'm thinking of teachers publishing classes, and students joining in,21:17
nubaelike multifreeze, multi-lower voliume, muliti-lock,mulit-powerdown21:18
nubaeetc21:18
alkisgteachers being able to send files to all students simultaneously,21:18
nubaeah.... then u'll have to wait for my app which is what it will do21:18
alkisghelping students remotely (that's already doable), students chatting / giving urls or files to one another,21:18
nubaewelll... it will publish a lesson, which they must answer complete, in quiz style, gaining/loosing points21:19
alkisgReally? Could you describe your app? What language are you using?21:19
nubaegettext is already included, so no probs in adding gree21:19
nubaejust need a pot file21:19
nubaelet me advance a  little with it during the next 2 weeks, and we can talk again21:20
nubaeabout icons though21:20
nubaeI like to do that sometimes to chill me out21:21
nubaewhere would we wanna go?21:21
nubaemaybe even 2 styles?21:21
nubaeI know htere are a lot of jthem though21:21
highvoltageicon themes are generally not too big so more than one extra can be included yes21:22
sbalneavhere I am21:22
alkisgYou mean the edubuntu theme? I think the edubuntu default is only for little kids...21:22
nubaeright21:23
nubaethink we need one that is more genereal edu21:23
nubaeand maybe a hip/cool one foir high schoolers21:23
nubaethen we'd have a choice of 321:24
alkisg...and maybe also the default ubuntu one, so that we have 4 :)21:24
* alkisg would go with the defaults, and let the theme hunting to end users :)21:24
nubaehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Newtonianpenguin.png21:29
nubaehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Penguin-evolution.png21:31
nubaehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Penguin-school.png21:33
nubaeok, well, those 3 I did a while back and have another one 2, they're kinda like a theme21:33
nubaewacha think?21:34
nubaegood enough,, or not really... please be honest21:35
nubaeI have a good wacom tablet I use for this using inkscape, so I'd use that or creating the icons too21:35
nubaeit soothes me between coding so I dont mind it so much21:35
nubaeand a I STRONGLY recpmmend u look at the latest opensuse-edu, cause hopefully we'd be travelling towards that and can learn from their mistakes21:37
nubaeand their successes21:37
nubaeif course we dot have something like yast which makes life so much easier for admins21:38
nubaevur creating a linked control panel might not be a bad idea21:38
nubaehow about this.... I make 3 different variations of 2 popular icons and we work of that?21:42
nubaeand a more pro looking theme might work better in generak )osx/darkker/dark blue/vlack/gray21:43
nubaemore like what ubuntustudio have21:44
nubaethat looks more pro21:44
nubaeanyway, thats my input... collect universe apps (get someone to help me put them in seeds, create icon sets, finish telepathy based teachgin/quiz app21:46

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