[05:15] <sbalneav> evening all
[08:37] <sakhi> Morning
[08:39] <highvoltage> Morning sakhi
[12:10] <alkisg> !info clusterssh
[14:42] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:57] <highvoltage> hi sbalneav
[14:58] <highvoltage> sbalneav: we're talking to the CC about the EC elections... it may turn into just a confirmation vote where we vote all 6 nominees in
[14:58] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I'm going to link to your wiki page too so I'm not sure if you'd perhaps like to remove the "Boy, is *that* a big mistake on your part." part :)
[15:03] <sbalneav> highvoltage: Nope. :)
[15:04] <sbalneav> I yam what I yam.  If the CC doesn't think I'd make a suitable candidate because of that, then, well, they'll have to live with the consequences of that decision.
[15:04] <highvoltage> sbalneav: ok np!
[15:08] <sbalneav> I *do* think there probably be some input from the users, just in case Ace or Scott shows up and doesn't want one or the other of us around.  If we're voted in "by acclimation", there's always the appearance of impropriaty or croneyism.
[15:09] <sbalneav> s/probably/should probably/
[15:10] <highvoltage> sbalneav: well, everyone had a chance to put forward their nominations
[15:10] <highvoltage> sbalneav: if someone feels strongly that there were somoeone better for the job, they had their chance to nominate someone
[15:11] <highvoltage> (not that I disagree with you)
[15:12] <sbalneav> Yup
[15:13] <sbalneav> True enough.
[18:56] <alkisg> Is the following idea for passwordless ssh an acceptable way to control many standalone clients from a server?
[18:56] <alkisg> 1) Create ssh keys for the root user on the server: sudo ssh-keygen
[18:56] <alkisg> 2) Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the clients, and specify: AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys
[18:56] <alkisg> 3) Copy the public key of the server root user to the clients' /etc/ssh/authorized_keys
[18:56] <alkisg> This way anyone with sudo privileges on the server could do: sudo ssh user@client and automatically logon there.
[18:57] <alkisg> (that would be really useful to run commands on all users on all clients simultaneously with clusterssh)
[18:57] <alkisg> Any tactical problems with this approach?
[19:07] <sbalneav> alkisg: What is it you want to do on the thin clients?
[19:07] <alkisg> sbalneav: standalone, not thin
[19:07] <alkisg> This way I could ssh as root, and e.g. update or install programs on the clients,
[19:08] <alkisg> or I could logon as any user and run apps on behalf of the students locally
[19:08] <sbalneav> Seems reasonable.
[19:09] <alkisg> I'm thinking of starting two packages for this scenario, one "sch-server" would prepare the server for the teacher to sit there, and one "sch-client" would prepare the client
[19:09] <alkisg> So except from remote command execution, I'd like to manage squid, some mandatory gnome and firefox settings etc
[19:10] <alkisg> Thanks sbalneav :)
[19:10] <sbalneav> NP
[19:52] <alkisg> Meeting in 10 minutes? Or am I counting wrong again?
[20:00] <stgraber> MEETING
[20:02] <highvoltage> yes!
[20:02] <highvoltage> (#ubuntu-meeting)
[20:02] <alkisg> nubae, sbalneav: ^^^
[20:17] <nubae> oof when was that written?
[20:17] <nubae> am I late?
[20:17] <alkisg> Not much, hop right in
[20:20] <highvoltage> sbalneav: the meeting is in #ubuntu-meeting ;)
[20:57] <nubae> was anything else of interest mentioned?
[20:57] <alkisg> live ltsp, and no text installer...
[20:57] <alkisg> (except for classroom server and moodle)
[20:58] <nubae> ok..
[20:58] <nubae> along with moodle, was consideration given to mahara and koha
[20:58] <nubae> both are really useful as a trio
[20:59] <nubae> koha does librarry (especially for schools) management
[20:59] <nubae> and mahara is an e-portfolio for kids to store their work in a more facebook like fashion, as well as learn how to present pages/their cvs, etc
[21:00] <nubae> through xmlrpc, the trio work very well, and it would give an edge compared to other distros
[21:00] <nubae> but I suggest u take a look a their respective sites
[21:01] <nubae> the cool thing is, info is very interconnected
[21:01] <alkisg> Hey, those look interesting...
[21:01] <highvoltage> nubae: hmm, koha isn't packaged yet, although mahara seems to be
[21:03] <nubae> koha isnt packaged,really? its the oldest of the 3
[21:03] <nubae> and is awsome for books management in schools/unis
[21:04] <nubae> mahara is nice cause its kinda drag and drop iterfacce and grabs details from moodle, and would do a lot of what is being attempted to do in moodle 2.0
[21:05] <nubae> what would be nice of course is if we had a pre-xmlrcd version, so that on moodle or mahara install data is immediately interchangable
[21:07] <nubae> also, and just off top of my head here... identi.ca?
[21:09] <alkisg> nubae: I was thinking about the telepathy stuff you were talking about some time ago, and utilizing it in a classroom. E.g. students collaborating with the help of empathy's "people nearby"... did you do something with telepathy, or you were just reading about it?
[21:13] <nubae> alkisg, 'm in the miiddle of a project with it
[21:13] <nubae> but therer are already projects using it
[21:14] <nubae> abiword, coccinella, vnc for multicasting, libjingle for multi videoconferencig
[21:14] <alkisg> "vnc for multicasting"???!!!
[21:14] <alkisg> Where's that?!
[21:15] <nubae> the gnome games package includes at least 3 games that use it, sudoku, tic tact toe
[21:15] <nubae> do a search for telepathy and vnc or vinagre/vino
[21:15] <nubae> its tightly integrted
[21:16] <nubae> inkscpae uses it
[21:16] <nubae> there are some SIP people managers, thunderbird uses it
[21:17] <nubae> fish around a little u'll find stuff, but the really interesting stuff is still  to be develloperd
[21:17] <nubae> and I thik we could start with some LTSP plugins at least
[21:17] <alkisg> I'm thinking of teachers publishing classes, and students joining in,
[21:18] <nubae> like multifreeze, multi-lower voliume, muliti-lock,mulit-powerdown
[21:18] <nubae> etc
[21:18] <alkisg> teachers being able to send files to all students simultaneously,
[21:18] <nubae> ah.... then u'll have to wait for my app which is what it will do
[21:18] <alkisg> helping students remotely (that's already doable), students chatting / giving urls or files to one another,
[21:19] <nubae> welll... it will publish a lesson, which they must answer complete, in quiz style, gaining/loosing points
[21:19] <alkisg> Really? Could you describe your app? What language are you using?
[21:19] <nubae> gettext is already included, so no probs in adding gree
[21:19] <nubae> just need a pot file
[21:20] <nubae> let me advance a  little with it during the next 2 weeks, and we can talk again
[21:20] <nubae> about icons though
[21:21] <nubae> I like to do that sometimes to chill me out
[21:21] <nubae> where would we wanna go?
[21:21] <nubae> maybe even 2 styles?
[21:21] <nubae> I know htere are a lot of jthem though
[21:22] <highvoltage> icon themes are generally not too big so more than one extra can be included yes
[21:22] <sbalneav> here I am
[21:22] <alkisg> You mean the edubuntu theme? I think the edubuntu default is only for little kids...
[21:23] <nubae> right
[21:23] <nubae> think we need one that is more genereal edu
[21:23] <nubae> and maybe a hip/cool one foir high schoolers
[21:24] <nubae> then we'd have a choice of 3
[21:24] <alkisg> ...and maybe also the default ubuntu one, so that we have 4 :)
[21:24]  * alkisg would go with the defaults, and let the theme hunting to end users :)
[21:29] <nubae> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Newtonianpenguin.png
[21:31] <nubae> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Penguin-evolution.png
[21:33] <nubae> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Penguin-school.png
[21:33] <nubae> ok, well, those 3 I did a while back and have another one 2, they're kinda like a theme
[21:34] <nubae> wacha think?
[21:35] <nubae> good enough,, or not really... please be honest
[21:35] <nubae> I have a good wacom tablet I use for this using inkscape, so I'd use that or creating the icons too
[21:35] <nubae> it soothes me between coding so I dont mind it so much
[21:37] <nubae> and a I STRONGLY recpmmend u look at the latest opensuse-edu, cause hopefully we'd be travelling towards that and can learn from their mistakes
[21:37] <nubae> and their successes
[21:38] <nubae> if course we dot have something like yast which makes life so much easier for admins
[21:38] <nubae> vur creating a linked control panel might not be a bad idea
[21:42] <nubae> how about this.... I make 3 different variations of 2 popular icons and we work of that?
[21:43] <nubae> and a more pro looking theme might work better in generak )osx/darkker/dark blue/vlack/gray
[21:44] <nubae> more like what ubuntustudio have
[21:44] <nubae> that looks more pro
[21:46] <nubae> anyway, thats my input... collect universe apps (get someone to help me put them in seeds, create icon sets, finish telepathy based teachgin/quiz app