[03:29] <cprofitt> dinda: you here?
[03:29] <dinda> cprofitt: yip, just checking some emails
[04:45] <cprofitt> night all
[11:05] <FFEMTcJ> mornin
[13:15] <Steel__> hi @ all
[13:50] <pleia2> FFEMTcJ: sorry, I've been swamped with work and things since returning from UDS, we will have a meeting next week even if I don't quite have a date yet :)
[14:08] <FFEMTcJ> pleia2: its all good.. mornin Pendulum and doctormo
[14:10] <doctormo> morning FFEMTcJ
[14:12] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, I missed the group photo :(
[14:12] <doctormo> Ah, that explains it
[14:12] <pleia2> I was on crew that day and was putting up signs for the next session, didn't realize I was missing the photo
[14:12] <doctormo> How are you pleia2? you've been quiet for a few days.
[14:13] <pleia2> doctormo: totally swamped with work this week
[14:13] <pleia2> out of the office last week, short work week this week, argh
[14:18] <Pendulum> pleia2: I seem to be hearing that sentiment from many people this week. (and not just people who were out last week)
[14:19] <pleia2> Pendulum: heh, I considered working this friday to catch up, but then realized that was crazy :)
[15:03] <doctormo> pleia2: Aye, I admit to being in bed, trying to relax my foot and being a bit board.
[15:03] <pleia2> doctormo: healing up well, I hope?
[15:03] <doctormo> I think so, I've put every repair team on the job. :-D
[15:24]  * FFEMTcJ has to work friday...
[15:24] <FFEMTcJ> and maybe even tomorrow
[15:31] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: the curse of working emergency services ;)
[15:33] <FFEMTcJ> ssshhhh!
[15:36] <Pendulum> does it get you christmas or new years off?
[17:51] <dinda> doctormo: ping
[23:03] <pleia2> FFEMTcJ: time passes too quickly, rather than a formal edu fg meeting we'll just tack our stuff onto the regular BT meeting
[23:03]  * pleia2 updated agenda on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
[23:03] <pleia2> it's on Tuesday, December 1st at 22:00 UTC
[23:06] <doctormo> pleia2: Do we have a meeting for the Learning project?
[23:08] <pleia2> doctormo: no, but we should schedule one to cover UDS stuff :)
[23:09] <doctormo> Aye, what did we cover? I think I know what I'm up to, but mostly what we did was present and then I had a dialectic argument with dinda.
[23:11] <pleia2> well, your project is newish
[23:12] <pleia2> the the lp login goodness
[23:15] <doctormo> Aye, at least I got to show it off at the lightning talk, that was fun, even though I was stammering all over the place.
[23:15] <pleia2> you did fine :)
[23:15] <pleia2> and at least your demo worked!
[23:16]  * _marx_ notes Ubuntu User Days on agenda
[23:16] <pleia2> _marx_: yeah, so that's tuesday evening eastern us time
[23:17] <_marx_> 2200 UTC = 1700 EST noted
[23:17] <doctormo> pleia2: Ah well, I was rushing before I got on stage to set up the guest and make sure everythign was ready :-) worked.
[23:18] <_marx_> duration?
[23:18] <pleia2> _marx_: less than an hour, especially with only 2 agenda items
[23:20] <_marx_> cool, no conflict w/LoCo team meeting
[23:23] <_marx_> is this an appropriate time and place to talk uud?
[23:24] <_marx_> another acronym eh
[23:24] <pleia2> yep
[23:25] <_marx_> k, there was a small group of people on my LUG discussing developing a syllabus for basic Linux classes
[23:25] <pleia2> would they be interested in this Learning project? or are they to general Linux rather than Ubuntu?
[23:25] <_marx_> being a LUG discussion this group included users of many distros
[23:26] <pleia2> ah
[23:26] <_marx_> it has since initiation roughly 2 months ago lost steam
[23:27] <pleia2> shame
[23:27] <_marx_> I've posted to the offlist thread asking if anyone would be interested in helping out with a uud
[23:27] <_marx_> had one reply
[23:28] <_marx_> one of the people in this small group is an employee of Forsyth County NC Library and has taught beginner classes for that other os
[23:28] <doctormo> _marx_: No reason why the materials you make for your LUG aren't simialr enough to share.
[23:29] <_marx_> doctormo: and visa versa
[23:29] <doctormo> _marx_: Just make sure it's CC-BY-SA or free'er, so we can share.
[23:30] <_marx_> no syllabus was developed, too many people too busy, but the library contact remains a good one
[23:30] <_marx_> he was one pushing for Ubuntu over Knoppix
[23:31] <_marx_> point: possibility of using public libraries here as a venue
[23:33] <_marx_> the LUG here is dominated by the founder who is not terribly new user friendly: he's quite personable in person but on the mailing list can best be defined as an ass
[23:36] <doctormo> _marx_: I'm about to write an interesting blog entry in the next few days all about the idea of "Suffering fools gladly"
[23:36] <_marx_> hum gladly is  the difficult part eh
[23:36] <FFEMTcJ> pleia2: sounds good. ;-)
[23:38] <_marx_> doctormo: he is the _founder! to me he has a since of ownership group founded in '97
[23:40] <_marx_> in the last couple of years he has ran this group into the ground
[23:41] <_marx_> if we do an Hour event here I _will have a printed copy of the code of conduct
[23:42]  * _marx_ crawls back into his corner
[23:42] <doctormo> _marx_: nah, you might need to sit down and talk to him over a buscuit and a port of tea. I know that at UDS someone went behind the back of one attendee to complain to jono, but that wasn't right because he found out and oh boy did it make things worse. Instead I tried to talk with him one to one and that seemed to work better.
[23:43] <doctormo> _marx_: btw, do you not have a LoCo near by?
[23:43] <_marx_> oh yeah, I took over the nc team a little over a year ago
[23:44] <doctormo> _marx_: then you have little to be concerned about then, your a completly different group of people with different needs and wants. :-D
[23:44] <_marx_> we're making progress but my area of the state is probably the weakest
[23:45] <_marx_> one to one's haven't worked with this guy
[23:57] <_marx_> well that is a very cool quit message