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Picifeel free to remove -r when niko or another staffer says its okay, otherwise we're going to get flooded with exploit msgs00:07
nikoyes00:07
PiciKB1JWQ: would you like me to flag you so the bots will 'test' you?00:24
KB1JWQPici: Ah, is that the trick?00:24
Piciyes, they don't do it unless it detects that the person lost connection during an attack, or if we tell it otherweise.00:25
ryaxnbuntuhi00:48
ryaxnbuntutopyli, when is the ban on ljl going to be lifted, is it a 24-hour ban?00:48
topyliryaxnbuntu, i don't know. i will discuss this with him00:49
tsimpsonryanakca: we don't discuss individuals bans with others00:49
tsimpsonryaxnbuntu00:49
ryaxnbunturyanakca, is in this channel too00:49
tsimpsondamn nick completion00:49
ryaxnbuntuhe follows me everywhere ;)00:49
ryaxnbuntusee ya00:49
topylifor the record, ljl and i had a pm about other things like operator stuff in general. not relevant here. he asked me to ban him on -ot and i refused. he threatened to make me. i then did00:51
tonyyarussoerr, wut?00:51
tsimpsonI have the distinct impression this this whole thing could and should have been handled better00:53
Piciyes.00:53
PriceyWhat's happenned?00:53
PriceyWhy couldn't he simply /part?00:53
nikoperhaps you can try to remove +r, bot seems to be less agressive01:00
Flannelbreunig's still banned in #u right?01:56
Flannels/eu/ue/01:56
bazhangyep01:57
FlannelMaybe that's a wiser choice?02:00
MenZamhm.02:04
PriceyAnyone able to enlighten me (in PM?) about LjL?02:07
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:13
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FlannelHowdy davidboy, how can we help you?02:24
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:24
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davidboyThere's somebody in #ubuntu that keep sending me files.  I haven't opened any of them.02:26
Flanneldavidboy: Yeah, we unfortunately can't deal with them until they do it.  You can safely ignore those requests though.02:26
FlannelI... believe there's a command you can do to have your client ignore them completely.  I'm not sure what it is though.02:27
Priceydavidboy: It is a bit annoying, check out http://blog.freenode.net/2009/11/dcc-spam-and-how-to-handle-it/02:27
davidboyThanks02:28
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:30
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bazhangwhat is the array (etc etc) and why does it cause an insta-kline02:30
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:36
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tsimpsonbazhang: the nicks sending the array stuff are also the ones sending the exploit02:37
tsimpsonit's probably a bug :p02:38
bazhangtsimpson, ah thanks, got those blocked so no idea they were being sent02:38
ircNusertest me02:40
tsimpsonircNuser: you have already been tested02:40
tsimpsonyou can join #ubuntu02:40
ircNuserthanks02:40
ircNuserI'll try now that I changed freenode to 800102:41
tsimpsonooh, actually they can't with the +r02:43
Flannelubottu: tell KiLaHuRtZ about nickspam02:49
bazhangcybercafe's let you reboot their computers? Not over here they don't02:54
bazhangah she is from Taiwan. No way is that right.02:57
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:15
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jpdsFun.03:19
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PriceyTHe bots are very noisy.03:20
jpdsCan we set +r and /remove them?03:20
jpdsI mean, seriously, this could go on for a while.03:21
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:21
Priceyi think they've learnt their lesson now03:22
ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: tequila is One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, FLOOR!03:27
jpdsubottu: tell IdleOne about scope03:28
MenZaFlannel: oh lawd.04:02
FlannelMenZa: my trigger finger's getting awfully itchy04:03
MenZaFlannel: I had an /ar prepped for Phrea in case he'd continued.04:03
MenZaI've had bad experiences with Phrea in the channel so many times now04:03
FlannelMhmm04:03
MenZachowder is, as far as I can tell, new to the game, but his persistence (and baiting) is annoying me.04:03
MenZaand that crossed my boundary.04:05
FlannelI'm not even sure what word fits with those asterisks, but seriously?04:06
MenZaagreed04:07
MenZasometimes I consider introducing martial law in that channel04:07
FlannelMenZa: as enjoyable as a fantasy that may be, no :)04:13
MenZaheheh04:16
MenZaI kid, I kid.04:16
tsimpsonyou think it's save to -r now?04:20
tsimpson*safe04:20
PriceyI wouldn't.04:20
chowderso I got kicked from the offtopic channel for having an opinion04:22
chowderits quite obvious that the op that kicked me was biased04:22
Flannelchowder: You got kicked after you continued the discussion after being asked to stop.04:22
Flannelchowder: There is no "let me get the last word in" provision04:22
chowderI was asked to stop talking about drugs04:22
chowderand I did04:22
chowderthe rest was me merely pointing out the fascist attitude in the channel04:22
Flannelchowder: I also mentioned that this channel was the place you should go if you take issue to the policies of the ubuntu channels.  #ubuntu-offtopic is not the proper venue for that sort of discussion.04:23
chowderso "in a nutshell" I was kicked for having an opinion04:23
tonyyarussoClaiming "fascism" would be sufficient on its own.04:23
chowdertonyyarusso: well what else do you call the suppression of free expression with right-wing overtones?04:24
Flannelchowder: We have guidelines for the channel, if you don't like following them, that's fine, you're free to disregard them in other channels.  Not in ubuntu channels.04:24
tonyyarussochowder: The suppression of free expression part is known as "moderation in keeping with community guidelines".04:24
chowdersomeone got scolded for even mentioning drugs04:25
chowderand he was talking about prescription meds!04:25
tonyyarussoWhen IRC ops come to your house and kill your family, *then* you can claim fascism, but anything before that belittles the tragedy of people who have sufferred such things.04:25
chowderdon't you think that's a bit extreme?04:25
tonyyarussoFascism is extreme - that's the point.04:26
chowdertonyyarusso: don't talk to me about opression my family fled a country ruled by a totalitarian dictator. You know nothing.04:26
tonyyarussoWell then you can go complain about fascism wrt to your home country, but not IRC channels.  The latter is ridiculous.04:26
tsimpsonhere's the deal, there are rules in #ubuntu-offtopic. if you wish to use the channel we require you to abide by those rules, if you don't then you'll be removed from the channel04:27
chowderI'm in the US04:27
tsimpsoncall it whatever you want, it's how it is04:27
chowdertsimpson: where in the rules does it state that I can be kicked for having differing political views than the ops do?04:27
chowderbecause that's the gist of what happened04:28
tsimpsondiscussion about drugs is against the rules04:28
chowderlike I said, I stopped talking about drugs04:28
tsimpsoncontinuing on the same vein is still discussing it04:28
chowderthe last bit that was merely satirizing "the rules" themselves04:28
tsimpsoneven if you think you can "technically" get away with it04:28
chowderhere's what I wrote: brb, I'll clog my arteries with fattening foods and destroy my liver with alcohol because its socially acceptable and I have no mind of my own04:29
tsimpsonthe intent was clear04:29
chowderI never mentioned drugs04:29
tonyyarussoThat's just mocking the concept of having rules, which indicates you have no intent on following them and don't belong in the channel in the first place.04:29
chowdertonyyarusso: no, I was mocking the attitude of the channel04:30
tonyyarussoalso, you may want to think twice about what you think other people's political views are - you clearly have no idea.04:30
chowderor maybe you should learn not to feed trolls04:31
tonyyarussoDid he just call himself a troll?04:32
Dominianyeah.. he did..04:32
tonyyarussofun.04:32
Dominianand j ust skimmin gback through backlog...04:33
DominianHe's got some issues04:33
tsimpson-unregged is a testament to how few people actually read the topic04:35
Flannel@mark #ubuntu-ops chowder Trolling04:40
ubottuThe operation succeeded.04:40
MenZaafter a bit of friendly clarification, Flannel/Dominian/tonyyarusso, I can inform you that he sees trolling as a 'social experiment' :P04:49
MenZa(I spoke to him in a query)04:50
FlannelMenZa: Social experiment or not, it's still trolling.04:50
MenZaYes, yes04:50
MenZaI also told him that that was never acceptable, but if he refrained, he would always be welcomed back.04:51
Dominianyeah he has to watch it.. violating network policy is never a good thing.. let a lone the chanenl policy04:51
MenZaindeed04:51
MenZait's worth pointing out that he took some criticism to ##unmentionable-channel-here, which sparked me querying him to clarify the reason (and the points made in here).04:52
Dominianyah04:52
MenZadoesn't bother me at all, but I still felt it was worth a bit of my time04:53
MenZaafter all, what are you doing being an op if you can't take criticism?04:55
bazhanginsane?05:03
bazhangor was that rhetorical05:03
KindOneAlright.... i have been blocked from #ubuntu, being sent to #ubuntu-read-topic   Is there a way i can fix this. I have been in the #ubuntu channel multiple times before and now i am being block....05:20
tsimpsonKindOne: read the topic in there and follow the instructions05:21
KindOneTried the port 8001, did not work... and i have read the topic and been to the site05:22
tsimpsonif you are on port 8001, then type "test me" in #ubuntu-read-topic05:23
bazhanghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/327363/ jussi01 this is to May16 200905:28
tsimpsonall those set on my birthday05:28
tsimpsonbazhang: do you want to preform a manual dcc test on KindOne? the bots won't do it while in emergency mode05:30
tsimpsonbecause of the continuing netsplit05:30
bazhangtsimpson, send him a dcc in that channel ?05:31
tsimpsonjust in /msg05:31
KindOnetest me05:31
bazhangjust offered him something via dcc05:32
KindOneits at 0%05:33
tsimpsonbazhang: you need to make sure it's IP and port 005:33
tsimpson*both 005:33
KindOnealright... it failed....05:34
bazhangtsimpson, they were all on 005:35
tsimpsonKindOne: you seem to have passed05:35
tsimpsonbazhang: can you remove the forward then please?05:36
bazhangKindOne, you are in05:37
KindOnealright, thanks, im in the #ubuntu channel now05:37
KindOnewill this issue happen again though ?05:39
bazhangare you on port 8001 ?05:39
KindOne yes05:40
tsimpsonthen it won't happen again05:41
tsimpsonjust stick to port 800105:41
KindOnealright thanks05:41
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PriceySorry tonyyarusso, we're definitely aware of it though.06:35
tonyyarussoPricey: good to know, but I was pretty sure you must be by now :P06:37
FlannelAnyone know what's up with WilliamBuell and Hekos?07:55
dholbachgood morning08:01
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Tm_TFlannel: what you mean?08:19
FlannelThey were having a little spat, and I was asking for a cliffnotes version of the backlog, but I skimmed it.08:19
Tm_Tok08:20
Tm_TFlannel: what I know is williambuell is bit new in irc and linux, and has/had broken system so might be bit edgy08:20
FlannelYeah, Hekos was being rude and standoffish08:20
Tm_Toh that's not nice08:21
FlannelNo, and I regret not checking in on the channel for so long, as something ought to have been done about ten minutes before I saw anything.08:21
* MenZa hugs Flannel 08:44
Tm_TFlannel: which channel this was?08:45
FlannelTm_T: -ot08:45
Tm_Tu-ot ok08:46
MenZaoh dear lord10:02
MenZawhat on earth...10:02
FlannelWhat?10:02
MenZaFlannel: -ot10:03
* Flannel grumbles at Hekos.10:14
MenZaBacta: How can we help you?10:28
BactaAny news on my bans?10:28
MenZaHm, I can't find your bans10:30
bazhangBacta, they are still in place.10:30
bazhangBacta, its less than a day since you last checked, nothing has changed.10:36
BactaI guess I'll have to stick to #ubuntu-vn then10:36
BactaAnd get technical help for all my problems in broken Vietnamese10:36
ikoniaBacta: hello10:40
ikoniaBacta: is there not a NewZeland Loco ?10:40
BactaHello ikonia10:40
BactaDid you just come here?10:40
ikoniajust woke up yes10:40
Bactaholy hell there is10:40
Bactai never noticed10:40
ikonia(I mean woke up on IRC, not woke up)10:40
BactaIt sucks having to wake up twice in one day doesn't it10:41
ikoniaBacta: as I said yesterday in pm to you, we are discussing ways to move your ban's forward10:41
bazhang#ubuntu-nz10:41
BactaYep, am in there now10:41
ikoniaBacta: as I said, you've not been forgot about we are trying to resolve this with you10:42
ikoniaBacta: we'll get back to you as soon as a way forward has been found, but feel please feel free to ask for an update10:47
BactaSure10:47
Bactathank you10:47
ikoniaok10:47
bazhang#ubuntu-advanced  is being claimed by roronoa and dijmen as being a support channel.11:33
Tm_Tnever heard of such channel11:34
bazhangfriendishan aka roronoa and dijmen just made it up on a lark, less than five minutes ago11:37
Tm_Thmmm, I don't like this11:38
tsimpsonit was registered by someone, but it's not official11:38
tsimpsonit's not a channel we use or plan to use anyway11:38
bazhangI'm in their trying to explain, but they won't listen. Am going to depart now.11:39
bazhangerr there11:39
tsimpsonjussi01: ^11:40
bazhang<dijmen> bazhang: exactly. so it will become official soon.11:41
Tm_Tofficial by who?11:41
jussi01check out: /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-advanced11:41
tsimpsonhe thinks because it's already registered we plan to use it11:41
jussi01;)11:41
bazhangheh11:41
tsimpsoncan't you set mlock +m ;)11:42
bazhanghaha11:42
tsimpsonand +if #ubuntu while you're at it11:42
bazhangor ##unavailable11:42
dijmenlet's create and promote #ubuntu-advanced11:49
Tm_Tfor what?11:49
dijmenfor advanced support because there are too many users with too many easy questions that flood #ubuntu11:50
Tm_Tdijmen: this splitting of #ubuntu has been discussed many times11:50
dijmenand what are some of the main conclusions?11:51
bazhangnot to do it.11:51
Tm_Tit's splitting community, time and resources, not worth it11:51
Tm_Tone more channel people should know and use and... there's channels more than enough already11:52
dijmenbazhang: oh, you're here too. I didn't see you. I hope you're not talking this like I'm trying to push it without your agreement.11:52
Tm_Tdijmen: heh, you can't push this (:11:52
bazhangdijmen, not my decision. Just informing you.11:52
dijmenI can "try to push", as I said :)11:53
dijmenbazhang: I see11:53
bazhangno.11:53
jussi01dijmen: see also bug #39279911:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39279911:53
bazhangdijmen, as I said in that channel, don't advertise other channels in #ubuntu11:53
dijmenbazhang: I got that. I meant "try to push" *here* (#ubuntu-ops) this time.11:54
dijmenthis bug reflects my report very well11:55
Tm_Tdijmen: you can't push this, it's not gonna happen, atleast not this time until there's really big reasons11:55
dijmenTm_T: there's even a german version of #ubuntu, so I thought my proposal would be very acceptable11:55
jussi01dijmen: the are many different local channels11:57
jussi01dijmen: However an advanced/basic segmentation is very hard to implement, and we have decided not to do so at this time.11:58
dijmenjussi01: yes, this is my point, and no #ubuntu-advanced, which would be useful11:58
dijmenjussi01: why is it hard? (just asking)11:58
jussi01dijmen: it is much beeter for advanced issues to be dealt with either in #ubuntu or in the channel for the actual app in question.11:59
jussi01dijmen: well lets start at the basics: how do you define advanced?11:59
jussi01(theres a lot more to it than that, but lets start there)12:00
dijmenjussi01: your question is not a good approach, so I can understand why it's hard to implement. advanced can be defined subjectively, which will create some polarization between the two channels. in addition, I guess it's very easy to say "try #ubuntu".12:01
jussi01dijmen: also, if you really want to talk to us about this issue, please go and read that bug. After you have done that, then we can continue a discussion.12:01
dijmenand "try #ubuntu-advanced"12:01
Tm_Tdijmen: easy to helper, or easy for the person who is looking for help? and is not familiar with IRC ?12:01
dijmenat least it's much easier than forcing a newbie-izing interpretation on most of my questions12:02
dijmenTm_T: people not familiar with IRC will never know about the existence of this channel12:02
Tm_Tdijmen: and they don't have advanced questions then?12:03
dijmenjussi01: OK, I'm reading it12:03
bazhang"all my questions are advanced"  :)12:03
dijmenTm_T: lol, how can a newbie have advanced questions?12:04
dijmenTm_T: it's not the question that decides what's advanced and what's not!12:04
dijmenTm_T: this is chat, not specifications database12:04
dijmendefinitions are user-centric, not data-centered12:05
jussi01dijmen: please go and read the bug and the comments therein, after you have done so, we can entertain a discussion with you.12:05
dijmenTm_T: plus, as bazhang says!12:05
AmaranthSo what you're saying is you want a channel for all the smarter folks to hang out and help enough other so they don't have to deal with #ubuntu anymore12:07
Amaranths/enough other/each other/12:07
* Amaranth just woke up12:07
topyliwhenever there is an "advanced" button or tab in an user interface, every user instantly becomes "advanced"12:07
bazhangI was kidding btw.12:07
jussi01Amaranth: give him a chance to read the bug please12:07
jussi01and lets not all jump in and overwhelm him ;)12:08
dijmenjussi01: you should have visited my channel when we were still two members. like this you got the wrong first impression.12:08
dijmentopyli: I didn't know about this tendency12:08
topylii would call it "topyli's law" but there already is a topyli's law about something else :)12:09
bazhanghehe12:09
Tm_Ttopyli: law #2 then12:09
topylidijmen, it's only half-serious really12:10
Tm_Tor was it #54312:10
bazhang'try a different app' is #112:10
topyliyeah12:10
topyli"when a user asks for help with $app on an irc channel, another user will immediately suggest switching to $another_app"12:10
dijmenAmaranth: it's not about being smart, it's about having different methods. just like some germans prefer to use a german language channel.12:11
dijmentopyli: that's only in ubuntu and other open source distributions. in windows it's "reinstall windows".12:12
jussi01dijmen: As you can see, we have put a great deal of thought into this, and we'd appreciate you read those thoughts and then come back to us - or even better, record your ideas on the bug. I get notified everytime someoneadds to it, and I read every comment.12:12
dijmenjussi01: thank you12:13
Amaranthdijmen: But the only people I can ever imagine being in #ubuntu-advanced are the exact people we would want helping in #ubuntu12:13
AmaranthWhich is mentioned somewhere in that bug report, iirc12:13
dijmenAmaranth: well, that's a good point12:13
dijmenAmaranth: so there are practical reasons12:13
dijmenI can understand that12:14
AmaranthI, at least, never worry about splitting the community but rather splitting the available helpers12:14
AmaranthIf I'm in #ubuntu and you're in #ubuntu-overflow1 I'm not going to see you asking for help with compiz12:14
AmaranthSo you'll eventually end up with people channel hopping through all the support channels asking for help just like they hop through all the non-support channels doing it now12:15
dijmenAmaranth: makes sense to me. however, I'd still give it a three months' try12:16
Amaranth#python did (mentioned in that bug as a success story for some reason) but they changed back to a single channel due to these problems12:16
dijmensometimes testing surprises us. especially as "-advanced" is not just "yet another ubuntu channel".12:17
AmaranthThe real problem is IRC doesn't scale but people are too impatient to use the forums12:17
dijmenI wonder why it doesn't scale12:18
dijmenyou python example is quite convincing12:18
dijmen(I'm still not sure it works for 1000+ member channels. too large channels are meant to be split.)12:19
AmaranthWell there is some risk that we'll destroy #ubuntu12:20
dijmenof 800 remaining newbies and quasi-newbies, they will always know the answer to each other's questions :)12:20
Amaranthand it's actually usually not much busier then it was back when we had 500 people12:20
dijmenAmaranth: I agree. I feel proud too that it's so big :)12:20
AmaranthIt's just that everyone idles there and the people active tend to come and go in shifts12:21
dijmenI didn't notice that12:21
jussi01IMHO we need to be funneling people to loco (support) channels for support, not "advanced" or "newbie" etc.12:22
AmaranthPerhaps12:22
dijmenjussi01: why loco?12:22
Tm_Tjussi01: indeed, many times people need help with their native language as they struggle with english12:22
AmaranthAlthough most of the loco channels seem to be like specialized versions of this channel plus offtopic, rather than a place for support12:22
bazhangdisagree12:22
dijmenbazhang: to what?12:23
AmaranthAnd just because I'm in the US doesn't mean someone in France can't help me or get help from me :)12:23
bazhang#ubuntu-tw / #ubuntu-cn are terrible support channels12:23
Tm_Tbazhang: hmmm, that doesn't mean others are12:23
Tm_Tbazhang: and how they're bad?12:24
bazhangTm_T, true12:24
Tm_TAmaranth: sure, but using the language you're familiar with does help (:12:24
bazhangTm_T, more like botwar channels12:24
Tm_Tbazhang: that has to be dealt with then somehow12:25
bazhangnext time I agree to take ops in a loco , I will ask for concessions12:26
Tm_Tfor example finnish channels are reasonably good for support12:27
bazhangwell, as 80% of core ops are Finnish, no surprise :)12:27
Tm_Tbazhang: yeah, #ubuntu is lovely finnish loco channel (;)12:28
bazhanghehe12:28
dijmenthis is because torvalds (the creator of the linux kernel, and implicitly of ubuntu) is finnish12:28
Tm_Tdijmen: no, not really12:28
Tm_Tdijmen: there's plenty of other linux channels that are not friendly at all, or helpful12:29
Tm_Tit's more of Ubuntu community and CoC12:29
Tm_Tand few active ones pushing it12:29
topylidijmen, when you ssh to irssi on your linux server and chat, it's the ultimate finnish experience .)12:43
Tm_Ttopyli: using gsm-network?12:44
topyliyeah, through your nokia phone12:45
jussi01Amaranth: just got back. My vision is that the locos take an active role in doing support and helping users on IRC, as they do IRL. This doesnt mean #ubuntu would disappear, but would be like a melting pot of all of them.12:51
jussi01brb13:09
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nikobots attack again13:56
Piciyes13:57
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)14:14
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ikoniaagain ????14:14
nikoyes, perhaps time for a +r ...14:19
ikoniaseems to have stopped now14:31
nikoa little yes14:53
Picishhh14:53
* genii makes another pot of coffee14:58
* ikonia has just been promoted to DNS god after implimenting the most over complex DNS system on the planet15:06
* genii makes a golden statue of ikonia and sacrifices old Blade servers to it15:10
ikoniawarrented15:13
Tm_Tgenii: what a waste of good iron15:48
mneptokMS-Maco. The new product from Microsoft.15:49
Piciooo15:50
MsMacooh shush you15:50
MsMacoX broke15:50
ikoniaughhh another attack15:51
ikoniaahhh gentoo, not us15:51
mneptokPici: never said "thanks" for the heavy lifting you did during UDS IRC discussions. so ... "thanks!"15:52
ikoniacheck out the muscle man !15:55
Tm_Twhat lifting?15:56
ikoniahis brain15:56
Picimneptok: :)15:56
Tm_Tlifting brains...15:56
ikoniahe's got a big brain to lift you know15:57
ikoniacheck out his python skills15:57
PiciFetch me a brain igor!15:57
ikoniayes master..............15:57
gordhehe, i just realised that i read igor as eye gor now15:57
gord... its from young Frankenstein :(16:00
macook X didnt break. kdm broke.16:30
maco(its my fault, of course)16:30
maco(copying /etc from an amd64 system to an i386 system is apparently a bad idea)16:30
geniimaco: I broke kdm a couple weeks ago trying to get it to do fingerprint auth, locked myself out pretty badly16:31
Tm_Taww16:40
ubottuuberspaced called the ops in #ubuntu (ban i-hate-freenode)16:47
macogenii: ive stumped Riddell16:49
macoi guess that counts for something16:49
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jpdsAnd so it begins again.16:55
ubottudinda called the ops in #ubuntu-women ()16:59
Tm_Tlooks like trudell is banevading17:01
Piciagain?17:01
Tm_Tas trudeII17:01
macoyes17:01
Tm_TI assume it's him17:01
tsimpsonhe always connects from 187.*17:02
tsimpsonI wonder how much we'd block if we just banned that17:02
* tsimpson starts having evil thoughts17:02
macotrude*!*@187.*  ??17:02
Tm_Tnope, different nick now17:03
tsimpsontrudell!*@187.* already is banned17:03
macotsimpson: no see trude*17:03
tsimpsonah17:03
macoso trudeII would be caught too17:03
trudeIIMicrosoft bribes Ubuntu development team to make bullshit kernel to not run 3d cards or commercial games on Linux.17:03
Piciclearly.17:03
tsimpsonhe's also evading a k-line17:04
tsimpsonif that's still in place17:04
* genii sips his coffee and thinks about angry conspiracy theorists17:10
macoargh17:12
macoin #ubuntu a few people were saying RTFM, and i told them off with the !rtfm factoid and theyre arguing its stupid and people should be RTFMing and blah blah17:12
Tm_Tif they argue against it hard enough, banforward here perhaps?17:13
macoi have no ops in that channel17:13
macoim a #kubuntu op17:13
jpdsmaco: Which people?17:14
macoSpaceGhostC2C and uberspaced17:14
macothey and llutz were arguing with a user who has trouble making sense of manpages that all the person needed to do was RTFM and the user's trying to tell them "i tried, but it doesnt make sense" and theyre all just like "its all in there, just read the manpage!"17:15
macojpds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/327824/ (with all the other conversations removed from in between)17:24
macoit just seemed to me like "gang up on the new person and make them feel bad for having trouble" :-/17:27
jpdsmaco: Next time hit ops.17:28
macoin not-clearly-trolling cases im never sure if i should17:29
macobesides that !ops is visible to the people i'm tattling on :)17:29
Picimaco: many of us have '! o p s' itself on hilight... so.. best not to use it unless its needed.17:29
macowhoops17:31
tonyyarussoI don't know if Zosimos is inebriated or just odd, but keep an eye on -ot when I leave for class in ten minutes :)18:18
topylilooking18:19
topyliwell, going for a smoke actually, but brb in a minute :)18:19
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Flannelmarshall... I know that19:40
FlannelAh yes.19:41
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* genii sips20:11
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