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billybigriggerphp00:11
billybigriggerfirefox is asking me to save a phtml file00:13
billybigriggerwhile trying to read index.php00:13
billybigriggeri have the addhandler line for php in my apache2.conf00:13
billybigriggerdunno why its asking to save a phtml, i've never seen that before00:14
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orudiehow can I check the processor info ?01:00
SynchronousFuRomIs anyone familiar with vsftpd? I'm currently having an issue with every file I upload having no permissions. I want everything uploaded to my folder to be, by default, set to permissions of 777.01:28
zulmathiaz: ping01:29
mathiazzul: hellow fellow canadiow!01:29
zulmathiaz: bonjour!01:30
zulmathiaz: i already got the python dependencies for landscape and ubuntuone and launchpad in the canonical-application-support spec01:30
mathiazzul: oh ok.01:32
mathiazzul: I though the blueprint had been folded into the seed discussion01:32
mathiazzul: I was wrong. I'll update the seed blueprint then01:32
zulmathiaz: i dont think so01:32
zulmathiaz: okies cool...besides I dont think you dont want to spend time writing 21 MIR and MIR for associated dependencies right? ;)01:33
mathiazzul: python-celementtree was considered to not be needed anymore01:33
zulnoted i think ctype is apart of python2.6 as well01:33
mathiazzul: python-svn - there was an action noted to talk to the LP team (IIUC) to check whether python-subversion would be ok01:34
mathiazzul: smartpm-core is already in main01:34
ajmitchmwhudson would know about python-svn, he's been dealing with bzr-svn01:34
mathiazzul: and for asterisk I'd sync up with Daviey and the other devs involved in Asterisk01:35
mathiazzul: and I'm not sure about the outcome of drupal 601:36
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zulmathiaz: gotcha01:42
zulmathiaz:i think drupalv6 was ok wwwconfig-common had to be stripped out though, whats everyone beef with wcconfig-common anyways?01:44
mathiazzul: you should ask the security team about wwwconfig-common01:44
mathiazzul: I don't think they're happy with having that package in main01:45
zulmathiaz: i asked kees he wasnt sure why01:45
zul<kees> zul: I wish I knew.  it seems like a good thing to me.01:45
ajmitchwwwconfig-common was meant to be deprecated about 4 years ago, iirc01:46
zulwith what?01:47
ajmitchdbconfig-common, various other bits & pieces I think01:47
zulbah01:47
ajmitchit's not very helpful I know01:47
zuli wonder how it fail if that dependency would be removed01:49
ajmitcheg http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/2005/06/msg00015.html from 2005 mentions it as deprecated - there's not really a decent set of tools for packaging web apps01:49
ajmitchwwwconfig-common usually handles the database setup & some apache mangling01:49
ajmitchI see what you mean... drupal6 depends on both dbconfig-common & wwwconfig-common01:53
ajmitchlooks like the only bit used is a restart script, too01:56
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billybigriggerhey all03:21
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.ca/168638003:21
billybigriggeranyone seen that before ^^^^03:22
billybigriggerperl is complaining about locale settings03:22
twbbillybigrigger: it's because your remote server hasn't got the appropriate locale(s) installed.03:22
twbAnd because OpenSSH transmits local information by default.03:22
twbEither unset LANG and LC_* when you log in, configure ssh not to send them, sshd not to accept them, or simply install the locales you need on your servers.03:23
billybigriggeri see that now03:23
twbI think it's something like language-pack-en03:23
twbPersonally I preferred the old way of compiling only what you need at install time03:23
billybigriggerlanguage-pack-en language-pack-en-base03:23
twbYeah03:23
billybigriggerits junk though as i only need en_CA\03:24
orudiei'm trying to change the way my bash prompt looks by editting .bashrc in /home/username/.bashrc by adding line that looks something like this export PS1="\e[0;31m[\u@\h \W]\$ \e[m" and nothing changes :(03:24
billybigriggertwb, anyway to remove all of the locales i don't need?03:24
twbbillybigrigger: you mean the en_* locales you don't need?03:24
billybigriggerwithout remove the whole language-pack pkg?03:24
twbAFAIK, no03:24
billybigriggerdang03:25
billybigrigger:) ah well03:25
billybigriggerthanks03:25
twbIf you find out, let me know03:25
twbI mean, short of installing localepurge or something...03:25
twbOr writing dpkg 3.0 to understand i18n better03:25
billybigriggerorudie, those changes *should* be immediate03:26
billybigriggerorudie, maybe you have some invalid characters or something?03:26
billybigriggerorudie, are you trying to do colors or something?03:28
billybigrigger\e[0;31m[\u@\h \W]\$ \e[m03:28
billybigrigger\e is fine...but right after.... [003:28
billybigrigger???03:28
billybigriggershould be \[003:28
thenetduckdo you know where I can find a good tutorial on how to install ssl ?03:41
thenetduck no a hardy lts server?03:41
billybigriggercheck the server guide03:44
billybigriggerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/index.html03:44
uvirtbot`New bug: #401782 in qemu-kvm (main) "please build a static version of qemu-arm 0.11.x in a separate binary deb" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40178203:57
uzerhello all, I am looking for a program to check pop mail and send an email based on who sends a mail04:27
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billybigriggeranyone aware of some decent cheap vps hosts either in canada or us?04:42
twbWhy the hell would you need a statically-compiled qemu-arm?05:06
twbHmph, "2) build a static version of qemu-arm so the binary can be copied into an arm chroot"05:07
twbITYM debootstrap --include qemu or similar.05:07
orudiehi, how do i enable rewriteEngine other then specifying RewriteEngine on in /sites-available/mysite.net ?05:50
billybigriggeranyone know why i might not be able to telnet into port 25 to test postfix and smtp-auth?06:18
twbbillybigrigger: firewall, or postfix isn't binding on that interface/port06:30
twbbillybigrigger: you ought to use netcat instead of telnet, too06:30
twbOtherwise people will think you're old06:31
billybigrigger250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD506:32
billybigriggertls isn't starting06:32
billybigriggeri don't see STARTTLS anywhere06:32
billybigriggersmtpd_use_tls = yes in /etc/postfix/main.cf06:32
billybigriggertwb, any ideas?06:32
twbUm, if you're getting a 250 then surely it IS listening06:32
twbAnd neither telnet nor netcat will STARTTLS, so of course you won't get past that point.06:33
billybigriggeryeah, telnet/netcat on localhost 25 work06:33
billybigriggerso i have to test from outside my server06:33
billybigriggerNov 24 23:33:30 server dovecot: Fatal: imap-login: Can't load private key file /etc/ssl/private/cakey.pem: error:0906A068:PEM routines:PEM_do_header:bad password read06:34
twbbillybigrigger: just specify the external interface when you netcat.06:34
billybigriggerdon't see why it can't auth with that key06:34
billybigriggerpostfix uses the same key no problems06:34
twbDunno about ssl keys.06:34
billybigriggerbillybigrigger@timmy:/etc/postfix$ netcat 96.31.74.120 2506:35
billybigrigger(UNKNOWN) [96.31.74.120] 25 (smtp) : Connection refused06:35
twbbillybigrigger: so either your firewall is blocking it, or postfix isn't binding to that interface.06:35
billybigriggerdon't have a firewall setup06:35
twbAs ss(1) what postfix is binding to06:35
billybigriggerthat i know of06:36
billybigriggerthis is a 9.04 server image on a vps06:36
twb*Ask ss(1) what postfix is binding to06:36
billybigriggerit already had apache installed with all the latest jaunty updates...who knows what they did to it :)06:36
jmarsdenbillybigrigger:   sudo netstat -ntlp4 | grep :25      # on the server, outputs what?  (find out what it is listening on)06:37
billybigriggerwhat is ss(1)?06:37
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: man 1 ss   to find out :)06:37
twbss is basically the new netstat06:38
billybigriggertcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      32678/sendmail: MTA06:38
billybigriggerahh, i was using netstat as user, no wonder it wasn't showing me much06:38
billybigriggeri need to practice up with netstat/netcat06:38
twbbtw, why does ss always use so much horizontal whitespace?  I have to pipe it into cat to get something readable06:38
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: OK... see that 127.0.0.1 in there... that means it is binding only to localhost... not what you want.06:39
billybigriggermynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/12806:39
billybigriggerjmarsden,  :) thanks06:39
twb104?06:39
twbIPv6 is wacky06:40
billybigriggershould i just listen on ip4?06:40
twbbillybigrigger: do you use IPv6?06:40
billybigriggernot at all06:40
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: I'd look for the inet_interfaces line in /etc/postfix/main.cf ...06:40
billybigriggerinet_interfaces = all06:40
billybigriggerinet_protocols = all06:40
billybigriggerok, just ran dpkg-reconfigure postfix and changed from all to ipv406:42
billybigriggerstill has the weird ipv6 address in mynetworks though06:42
billybigriggeranywho06:42
billybigriggerwhat does the /8 and /104 mean? obviously i need to add my servers ip address in there...06:43
billybigrigger /8 is the class right?06:43
jmarsdenCIDR notation for a chunk of IPv4 address space.  You can just put your Ip address on the line without a /nn06:44
jmarsdenOr you can do 1.2.3.4/32 (same end result -- just one IP address)06:44
twb127/8 is the IPv4 loopback address range.  It's a full class A address.06:45
twb*address range06:45
* twb grumbles about code that treats 127.0.0.1 differently from the rest of 127/806:46
billybigriggerhmm06:46
billybigriggeradded my ip/32, restarted postfix, ran netstat again and still only listening on 127.0.0.1:2506:46
twbbillybigrigger: try #postfix?06:47
billybigriggerdead06:47
twbPatience, grasshopper.06:48
billybigriggeri asked there first...nothing but a bunch of /joins06:49
billybigrigger:)06:49
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: Check in /etc/postfix/master for anything that might be directing daemons to only listen on localhost ?06:50
twbPossibly also dpkg-reconfigure postfix (after making a backup)06:51
twbAnd postconf | grep06:52
jmarsdenpostconf -n is probably enough (just look at what you have changed, not at everything)06:53
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: If you want, pastebin the output of postconf -n somewhere and I'll take a quick look.06:53
billybigriggerdoh06:54
billybigriggertcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      32678/sendmail: MTA06:54
billybigrigger32678/sendmail: MTA06:54
billybigriggerthis vps is gay, has a bunch of stuff already preconfigured06:54
billybigriggernot a clean fresh server install06:54
twbbillybigrigger: get rid of it, then06:54
billybigriggerroot     32678  0.0  0.1  66932  2344 ?        Ss   18:23   0:00 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections06:54
twbIncidentally, does that PID strike anyone as awfully covenient?06:55
twbOops, 2**15 is 32768, not 3267806:55
jmarsdentwb: 32767 would be... 678??06:55
billybigriggerim lost now06:56
kaushalhi06:56
kaushalI get console-kit-daemon[3863]: WARNING: Error waiting for native console 13 activation: Invalid argument in the syslog. Any clue what could be causing this issue ?06:56
billybigriggertcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      7296/master06:57
jmarsdenkaushal: Invalid lines in /etc/syslog.conf, especially one that tries to send syslog output to tty13 ?06:57
billybigrigger250-STARTTLS06:58
billybigriggerbut i don't see...06:58
kaushalI am running ok06:58
billybigrigger250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN06:58
billybigrigger250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN06:58
jmarsdenbillybigrigger: Did you get postfix listening on all interfaces?06:59
twbjmarsden: clearly he did06:59
twb17:57 <billybigrigger> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      7296/master06:59
jmarsdentwb: well, that could be on localhost06:59
twbNo, then it'd be 127.0.0.1:*06:59
twb(Right?)06:59
jmarsdenAh... OK.  Yes, by that I meant the 250 stuff.06:59
kaushaljmarsden: i dont see anything in syslog-ng.conf07:00
billybigrigger<sep> my working postfix have ...     tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     5192/master         keepalive (0.00/0/0)07:00
billybigriggerfrom #postfix07:00
twbkaushal: where's /dev/console pointing?07:02
twbOops, it's not a symlink07:02
twbHm, "invalid argument in the syslog." doesn't mean that console-kit-daemon is reading rsyslog.conf -- after all, that would be crazy07:03
jmarsdenkaushal: Others seem to have seen that kind of error in Ubuntu before, but no clear answers on the forums.  Bug 244218 might be related?07:05
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 244218 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon segfautls and error "Error waiting for native console" (dup-of: 269651)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24421807:05
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 269651 in consolekit "console-kit-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26965107:05
ninnypantsI'm trying to use wordpress' wp_mail function to send mail but every time my code(http://pastebin.org/56962) runs the from value of the email is my mail server's domain, but it's sent from the correct email address. I have a proper mx records setup for the domain I'm sending from, and I talked with someone on here last night, and they said the From header in my code(http://pastebin.org/56962) was correct. Any id07:12
billybigriggerloves how quickly it dies here :)07:21
ninnypantsyeah it makes things hard some times07:23
jmarsdenninnypants: Are you (or your code) confusing the envelope address and the From: header ?  The "From " header in unix mailbox format is not the same as the From: header line...07:24
ninnypantsprobably this is my first server setup07:24
ninnypantsI just know that that is the way that you set up the headers for php's mail function07:25
jmarsdenI'm not familiar with wp_mail at all, but I've been running mail servers a long time (~15 years on Linux).  If you send the mail using PHP's mail function rather than wp_mail, are the results different at all?07:25
ninnypantslet my try07:26
ninnypantsstrangely yes not sure why because wp_mail uses php mail function but now I feel somewhat stupid for staring at it for a day and not checking that07:29
jmarsdenninnypants: So now you need to recheck the docs for wp_mail to see what it is expecting that you are not doing, basically :)07:30
ninnypantsthe code was coppied straight from the wp docs because the code I was using wasn't cutting it and nothing changed07:31
ninnypantsif you check out the example at the bottom of the page you'll see what I mean http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wp_mail07:31
jmarsdenAssuming wordpress is open source, you could read the wp_mail code, to really see what it does differently.  Maybe there is some config value somewhere that is looks at which you have not set?07:32
majukHey guys, I'm looking for a way to instantiate a login.bat script on a per-group basis at login for Windows users (the groupings are on the server, not AD OUs). I found a doc that had some way to do this, but my google-fu is failing me. Anyone have an idea how to implement this?07:33
majukOh, I'm using a Samba PDC. FYI07:34
jmarsdenmajuk: I've never tried it, but would doing something like logon_script = scripts\%G.bat and having one foo.bat for each primary group name work for you?07:37
majukjmarsden! Hmmm... it very well might.07:37
ninnypantsjmarsden: it's using the PHPMailer class so not sure what's going on really never used PHPMailer before07:37
jmarsdenninnypants: Well, can you get the desired resuly by just using the mail function instead?  if so... ignore wp_mail, problem solved :)07:38
majukThe doc I read did something to the effect of reading the group the user was in and then copying a GROUP.bat in USER.bat so then for the [netlogon] portion of samba, you only needed /PATH/TO/LOGINSCRIPTS/%U.bat07:38
majukjmarsden! ^^07:38
majukBut %G might work as well. I wonder how it would react if the user were in multiple groups though07:39
majukOne way to find out! >07:39
majuk>07:39
majuk:D07:39
jmarsdenmajuk: Sounds reasonable.  I've done the %U.bat thing (a long time ago), but never had to deal with that per-group... %G is the users primary group.07:39
majukjmarsden! Ah, right. I forget there is a primary. I'm a relatively new admin.07:40
jmarsdenmajuk: man smb.conf has all the info on those %X substitutions... I did man smb.conf before writing my first response to you :)07:40
majukjmarsden! There's a man for the .conf file? Doesn't that beat all. Thanks man, I'll take a look at that.07:41
twbmajuk: man -k is your friend07:42
majuktwb! ZOMG, 4 years of using Linux, never seen that before.07:42
majukAwesome. Thanks guys.07:43
jmarsdenNo problem.  BTW... 4 years and you didn't ever do   man man    and read what was in there? :)07:44
majukLOL, no, no I hadn't.07:44
twbmajuk: then RUTE is your friend07:44
majukBut now I will!07:45
majuktwb! Nice, thanks for the recommendation. I'll have to peruse this sometime.07:46
majukI love IRC. :07:47
twbmajuk: you evidently aren't too bad, since you found it without asking for the URL07:47
majuktwb! Well I know how to use Google. :)07:47
twbUsually the conversation goes "RUTE." "RUTE?" "!RUTE"07:48
twbFSVO RUTE07:48
majukHahahaha, yea, I started in Gentoo, I'm used to doing some research before I ask questions, googling a term I haven't seen before is pretty par for IRC for me at this point.07:49
majukBut anyway, thanks for the info. You guys, as always, are awesome.07:51
maxagazhow to know which one of eth0 and eth1 the ppp0 interface is using ?08:58
yoshxhello09:03
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Ngmaxagaz: why would ppp0 be using an eth interface? are you doing some kind of tunnelling?09:12
maxagazNg, i' just trying to know what hardware is ppp0 using09:14
Ngmaxagaz: I'm not aware of that question being easily answered without knowing more about the setup. ppp0 is either talking to local modem hardware or is being tunnelled over a network device, but afaik you can't tell from the ppp0 interface itself where the other end is, you'd need to inspect the pppd process that created it09:21
majukIf anyone is looking for policy setting examples that don't revolve around Window's silly GUIs, I just found a gold mine.09:31
majukhttp://www.pcc-services.com/custom_poledit.html09:31
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Vartanhello11:01
Vartanso i can actually add my server to the amazon cloud? so when i add a site it will be using the amazon servers also?11:01
sorenVartan: It's not quite that simple.11:20
uvirtbot`New bug: #488190 in unixodbc (main) "unixodbc doesn't cooperate well with freedts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48819013:01
ahasenackerichammond: are you around?13:22
acemohow do i mount the raid filesystem from a live cd?13:44
chuck_morning13:53
Davieyafternoon chuck_13:58
Zebosshello14:00
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tdnHow do I use a pgsql database for authentication instead of /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow?14:09
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ivoksanyone using NFS here?15:47
zulyep15:48
zulbut not as complicated as you probably want it ivoks15:48
ivokswell, my setup is basic15:48
ivoksone nfs share, mounted on different ubuntu clients15:48
ivoksusers are in LDAP, so uids and gids are ok15:49
zulpormap running?15:49
zulportmap even15:49
ivoksnow, everything is working15:49
ivoksit's just this problem that's been there always :)15:49
ivokswhen userA creates file, it creats it with it's umask15:49
ivoksthen userB can't change it15:50
yoshxhello15:50
ivoksnow, i could change their umasks, but i do not want that, cause i'd like them to store files with 0660 permissions only on nfs share15:50
uvirtbot`New bug: #488257 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48825715:51
ivoksthat's doable with samba, but nfs doesn't have something like that15:51
ivoks:/15:51
zulwhich version are you using?15:51
ivoksv315:52
ivoksbut i think it applies for v4 too15:52
ivoksi could use ACLs, of course...15:52
ivoksor, forget about NFS15:53
ivokshow do i set up a direcotry, on unix, which will force permissions on files created in it?15:53
ivoksfor example, each file created there should be 066015:53
ivoksi do know how to do that with ACL15:53
ivoksman, we should have ACLs by default in ubuntu15:54
ivoksin any linux distro.15:54
ivoksunix permissions are just to simple15:54
zulI would use acl15:56
ivoksthere's no other way15:57
ivoksand we moved acl to universe15:57
ivoksbah, we suck15:57
ahasenackwhy was acl moved to universe?16:01
ahasenackI thought samba was very close to requiring it, i.e., many of its features don't work without acl support16:02
ivoksi'll fight for its comback to main16:03
Nexen|Zebossi'm tryin' to build a UEC, and i was wondering if anyone know the minimum CPU specs for CLC and CC ?16:05
RiSkOoalguien habla español?16:20
RiSkOo:)16:20
uvirtbot`New bug: #488285 in multipath-tools (main) "multipathd segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48828516:32
majukHey guys, I have a functioning Samba PDC, but when ever a Windows user logs in, I get this message flood my /var/log/daemon.log. Any idea why? Googling failed me. http://dpaste.com/125035/16:56
majukAgain, everything works, so this error doesn't seem to be affecting my user in any way, I would just prefer my logs weren't stuffed with this message.16:57
ruben23hi17:37
majukruben23! Hola. Que paso amigo con queso?17:43
ruben23majuk:hi sorry cant understand17:44
majukruben23! That means "Hello, my friend with cheese"17:44
majukOr, what's up, rather17:45
ruben23 majuk:very nice....17:45
ruben23 majuk: are you a network admin..?17:45
Adam75CPU INTEL P4 2.6GHz, 80 Gb HD, 512mb ram.. will this do for a server?17:45
majukruben23! EEEEEERRRRRRRGGGGGG, wrong, ask your questions and someone will help if they can.17:45
majukThat was my 'wrong answer' buzzer, needs work.17:46
majukAdam75! Depends on what you're serving, chacho.17:46
Adam75majuk; I don't know yet. I'm thinking webserver or smth17:47
majukAdam75! Short answer: it should be fine. It's probably way over kill, in fact.17:48
\shmajuk, depending on the load of the webserver...17:49
majuk\sh! Precisely. Hence why that was the short answer.17:49
majuk\sh! But if he doesn't even know what he's serving, that means he's not serving much of anything usually.17:50
majukSo :P17:50
\shoh well.../me hasn't the "i need a server for home" users in mind ;)17:55
majuk\sh! Indeed.17:56
zroyschis there anyone around who is knowledgable in networking on ubuntu server18:05
zroyschits getting very annoying to deal with this random disconnection that occurs when im connected to the server from the internet.18:06
bogeyd6yes i am zroysch18:08
zroyschhi18:08
bogeyd6!ask18:08
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:08
bogeyd6!pastebin18:08
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic18:08
bogeyd6:))18:08
zroyschok, i'll try to describe my circumstance18:08
zroyschcurrently i'm at panera bread18:08
zroyschssh'd to ubuntu server (on home lan)18:08
zroyschalso connected to the mpd server18:08
zroyschlistening to icecast stream18:08
zroyschit'll disconnect at random.18:09
bogeyd6the ssh or the icecast?18:09
zroyschi ssh to the centos server, also on the home lan. it remains connected indefinitely18:09
zroyschthis behavior was repeated on university's network18:09
zroyschand another restaurant18:09
zroyscheverything disconnects at the same time18:10
zroyschfor a minute or so18:10
zroyschon the ubuntu problem server18:10
bogeyd6ok18:10
bogeyd6well there are lots of fault points to trouble shoot in the area.18:10
zroyschwhen i'm at home on the lan (my laptop), it stays connected to the ubuntu server the whole time18:10
bogeyd6what does /var/log/syslog tell you18:11
zroyschi dont see anything there regarding an ssh connection or any of the other connections i know are failing18:12
\shzroysch, check on your centos box /etc/ssh/sshd_config for TCPKeepAlive setting...if it's enabled, there you go on your ubuntu box...but man sshd_config tells you TCPKeepAlive is spoofable..you need to look at the ClientAliveCountMax18:13
bogeyd6so chances are it is either the network card in the server (assuming that this aint a virtual server) or the router/dsl modem is losing signal18:13
zroyschits not a virtual server18:13
bogeyd6\sh that doesnt solve his icecast disconnecting18:14
zroyschi was suspect of the server nic, but wouldnt it act the same while i was at home on the lan?18:14
bogeyd6zroysch yeah, but not as touchy on a lan as it does go over internet18:14
\shbogeyd6, if the centos box is on the same network as the ubuntu box...hmm..18:14
zroyschmy home network is setup like verizon modem -> pfsense router/firewall -> ubuntu server18:15
zroyschyes centos is connected to the same router18:15
bogeyd6i dunno, i think it has to be in that internet connection18:15
\shbogeyd6, then you would have the same disconnects on the centos box18:15
\shbogeyd6, or it's something like dhcp doing some re-requesting of ips in a faster interval18:17
\shif zroysch' server is getting it's ip via dhcp ;)18:17
bogeyd6usually the dhcp server will give the same lease18:18
\shas I'm not using dhcp for my home machine, I don't have disconnects...18:18
\shbogeyd6, usally18:18
\shbut I'm running on linksys with ddwrt...and have no problem with the ubuntu boxes (which I only use...no other linux here)18:19
zroysch\sh: all servers in question are static ip'd18:19
zroyschon the lan18:19
bogeyd6zroysch can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog and18:19
bogeyd6let us know the url18:20
zroysch\sh: #TCPKeepAlive yes18:20
zroyschbogeyd6 http://pastebin.com/f5602195f18:21
bogeyd6server log is surprisngly clean18:22
zroyschit just happened again18:22
zroyschssh: connect to host xxx.xxx.xx.xx port 22100: Connection refused18:23
zroyschnow its prompting for a password again18:23
bogeyd6hah, i got an ip trying to bruteforce a username in my auth.log18:24
zroyschconnected18:24
zroyschuh oh18:24
zroyschfuck him.18:24
* bogeyd6 knows how to secure me some ssh18:24
bogeyd6 121.10.141.11818:24
zroyschi wish my auth.log said something important regarding the ssh disconnects18:24
zroyschchinese bastard18:25
bogeyd6you can18:25
bogeyd6set your logging level in sshd_config18:25
zroyschi did18:25
zroyschits verbose18:25
bogeyd6set to debug18:26
zroyschset18:26
bogeyd6restart ssh18:27
bogeyd6sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart18:27
bogeyd6disconnect and reconnect (if successful start)18:28
bogeyd6auth.log is where it is logging18:31
zroyschright18:31
bogeyd6waiting for a disconnect?18:32
zroyschalways18:32
bogeyd6tail -f /var/log/auth.log18:32
zroyschi'm all anxious with anticipation this time18:33
zroyschtheres gonna be a log with all the answers18:33
bogeyd6or no answer!18:33
zroysch[365176.690020] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer xxx.xx.xx.xx:58985/49150 shrinks window 1453160483:1453162878. Repaired.18:34
zroyschi get a shitload of these18:34
zroyschimean a metric shit ton18:34
bogeyd6it means its shrinking the tcp window18:36
bogeyd6mostly we just wait for the disconnect and then see the errors leading up to it18:36
zroyschNov 25 13:31:15 userv sshd[23755]: debug1: server_input_global_request: rtype keepalive@openssh.com want_reply 118:37
zroyschi guess this is my client's serverkeepalive doing its thing?18:37
bogeyd6yes18:37
zulbah18:38
bogeyd6zroysch maybe if you stop the tail it will disconnect faster18:39
zroyschhttp://pastebin.ca/168711718:40
zroyschbut i'm still connected18:40
zroyschhow/why is root connected? i never login as root18:41
bogeyd6ruh roh :(18:41
bogeyd6did you su root?18:42
zroyschubuntu doesnt even have a root i though18:42
zroyscht18:42
bogeyd6!root18:43
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo18:43
bogeyd6but watch this18:43
bogeyd6!noroot18:43
ubottuWe do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information.18:43
bogeyd6:P18:43
zroyschi never set one18:43
zroyschso i guess there isnt one.18:43
zroyschmy login i normally use has root access, but the username is not root18:43
\shsudo -i == you smell like root ;)18:43
bogeyd6when was the last time you did a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"18:43
zroyschdunno18:43
bogeyd6check it out18:44
bogeyd6could be a solution to our problems18:44
zroyschhttp://pastebin.com/m7dc68cb218:46
zroyschthat tell me anything?18:46
ivoksyes18:46
ivoksit says everything is ok18:46
zroyschivoks: everything is not ok.18:47
zroyschbogeyd6: i have 5 days of uptime, so 5 days ago18:48
ivoksi wasn't here from the begining, so i don't know what's your problem18:49
ivoksbut this log looks ok18:49
ivoksif, of course, you do know who userveadmin is :)18:49
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zroyschivoks: yes i know him. i am him18:53
ivoksawesome, so... what's the problem?18:53
zroyschivoks: the disconnects are happening at random, without my authorization.18:53
zroyschfrom several locations on the internet18:53
bogeyd6zroysch who is smmsp18:53
zroyschi dont know18:53
ivokszroysch: disconnects?18:54
zroysch24 packages can be updated.18:54
zroysch10 updates are security updates.18:54
zroyschi guess i'll do it18:54
bogeyd6sendmail user18:54
bogeyd6zroysch plz do18:54
ivoksyour ssh connection drops?18:54
bogeyd6zroysch has it disconnected yet18:57
zroyschbogeyd6 yes several times18:57
zroyschi posted the pastebin from the tail on the one18:57
bogeyd6the last pastebin proved nothing of a disconnect18:58
zroyschhuh18:58
ivoksare you running nscd?18:58
bogeyd6just showed closed as if you closed it18:58
zroyschi didnt close it18:59
ivoksbogeyd6: which pastebin is that?18:59
zroyschhttp://pastebin.com/m7dc68cb218:59
zroyschthis one, i guess18:59
ivoksnope, it's this one19:00
ivokshttp://pastebin.ca/168711719:00
alkisgIs the following idea for passwordless ssh an acceptable way to control many standalone clients from a server?19:00
alkisg1) Create ssh keys for the root user on the server: sudo ssh-keygen19:00
alkisg2) Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the clients, and specify: AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys19:00
alkisg3) Copy the public key of the server root user to the clients' /etc/ssh/authorized_keys19:00
alkisgThis way anyone with sudo privileges on the server could do: sudo ssh user@client and automatically logon there.19:00
alkisgAny tactical problems with this approach?19:00
ivoksanyway, neither of those show closed connection19:00
ivokszroysch: let's start from the beginning19:01
ivokszroysch: what is the problem? you randomly get disconnected from ssh?19:02
alkisgThat's to be used in a small classroom, with the teacher sitting on the server and controlling/administering the clients where the students sit.19:02
bogeyd6ivoks only when crossing on his internet connection19:02
ivokszroysch: does it show 'disconnected' or the connection just times out19:02
ivoksdo you actually get disconnected or it looks like connection 'crashed'?19:02
zroyschivoks: when connecting from the internet (tried 3 different locations), my connections get dropped at random (ssh, mpd, icecast)19:02
ivoksdescribe 'dropped'19:03
ivoksdo you get disconnect or it just stalls19:03
zroyschthis ubuntu server is on my home lan. the same home lan that the centos server is on where my ssh remains connected19:03
ivoksfor example, with ssh19:03
zroyschit disconnects, and i am given the prompt for my local machine again19:03
ivoksdo you get returned to your client prompt or terminal 'freezes'19:03
ivoksok19:03
ivokswhat kind of connection do you have from your home to your ISP?19:04
zroyschits verizion fios..19:04
zroyschfiber to the house19:04
zroyscha box outside that comes inside with coax to the verizon modem19:05
ivoksi know what it is19:05
zroyschthen why did you ask19:05
ivoksi asked what do you how, and i know what fios is19:05
ivokshow? :)19:06
ivokshave19:06
zroyschyea, it was a weird way to ask i guess, so i was overly descriptive, as i thought its what you wanted19:06
zroyschalso, i believe not everyone gets fiber right up to their house19:06
ivokshm...19:06
zroyschok i just got a new kernel with the update19:06
zroyschnot sure if this is going to do anything but i'll reboot and see19:07
ivokszroysch: when it boots up, i'd like you to paste output from 'grep sshd /var/log/auth.log'19:08
ivoksfrom one session19:08
bogeyd6awesome zroysch19:09
zroyschim not sure what you mean by one session19:09
bogeyd6login to ssh and then repost auth.log19:09
ivoksssh into the server and wait until it drops connection19:09
zroyschok19:09
zroyschrebooting19:10
zroyschi gotta eat now19:10
zroyschbrb19:10
ivoksheh19:10
ivokssshd doesn't disconnects him19:10
ivoksi'm puzzeld by the fact that he gets his terminal back19:10
ivoksotherwise, i'd bet on MTU19:11
bogeyd6ivoks he claims on local lan its no issue19:12
ivokstherefor MTU or some kind of firewall on modem19:12
\shivoks, how does it fit with the centos box not disconnecting? ;)19:14
ivoksdifferent mtu19:14
zroyschmaximum transition unit?19:14
ivoksbut on fiber, mtu of 1500 should be ok19:14
\shhmm...nic mtu should be always 1500, or?19:14
\sh(ethernet to be more precise)19:15
ivoksnot always...19:15
jbernard\sh: GigE supports jumbo frames19:15
ivokssometimes with cisco vpn you can get problems if your mtu is 150019:15
\shjbernard, yes...but your home dsl / cable modem won't have GigE ;)19:16
ivoks\sh: this isn't dsl19:16
ivoksit's fiber19:16
ivokszroysch: yes... could you try something?19:16
zroyschat your service19:16
ivokszroysch: eth0 is the name of the interface?19:17
bogeyd6im not convinced its the server19:17
zroyschyes19:17
bogeyd6im betting it has to be in the verizon modem signal or the firewall19:17
ivokszroysch: run 'sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1412'19:18
ivokslet's give it some space :)19:18
bogeyd6wat19:18
bogeyd6dont do that19:18
ivokszroysch: on server, of course19:19
zroyschyes19:19
zroyschit was 150019:19
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ivoksi know19:20
ivoksnow observe if behaviour changed19:20
zroyschcentos server's mtu also 150019:22
ivoksi belive it is...19:22
zroyschi'm telling you it is19:22
ivoksso, does connection drop?19:22
bogeyd6rotfl19:22
zroyschwill have to give it a minute19:22
ivokszroysch: by default, it's 1500 always19:22
zroyschoh19:23
ivoksVerizon FiOS expects an MTU setting of 1492.19:23
ivoksthere we go...19:23
ivokstrue, modem should do that, but it's verzion... expect unexpected :)19:24
zroyschyea like a blown up gasline19:24
ivoksADSL also works on 149219:24
ivoksbut clients on LAN shouldn't have 1492, only the gateway19:24
ivoksi've seen couple of modems that don't clam mtu19:25
zroyschso i should set the pfsense router to 149219:25
ivokser... you have your own gateway?19:25
NorthByNorthWestHi! Desperately need help! My samba share, created with webmin cant be mounted... it just says "Cannot mount Window-share"19:25
zroyschivoks: well its a gateway for my lan19:25
zroyschits the only computer connected to the vz modem19:26
ivokszroysch: it should have 1492 only on the modem side, on the eth side it should be 150019:26
ivokszroysch: the thing is that modem needs to do claming19:26
* \sh loves his linksys and /me loves cable ;) 19:27
ivokszroysch: so, does connection drops?19:27
zroyschivoks: not yet19:27
ivoksthat's 7 minutes19:27
ivoksdid it last that long before?19:28
bogeyd6NorthByNorthWest we dont support webmin here19:28
zroyschits seemingly random19:28
ivokszroysch: it's not random, it depends on amount of data19:28
ivokszroysch: so, if you just log in, it won't drop that fast; but if you do just 'ps ax' it could drop in a second19:28
zroyschivoks: whenever i'm doing something in the terminal it seems to stay connected19:29
zroyschits only when i go back to it after doing something else i find it disconnected19:29
ivokshm, interesting19:29
\shtcpkeepalive not set (first shot, and it's evil) and ClientAliveCountMax + ClientAliveInterval not set (which is a better alternative for SSHD) so modem (fw) drops connection when inactive (sometimes a standard doing of FWs)19:30
NorthByNorthWestbogeyd6: Ok... screw webmin.... what if I pastebin the entry in the smb.conf?19:31
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: go ahead19:31
\shwebmin still alive? oh wow19:31
NorthByNorthWestivoks: http://pastebin.se/199725 this is just the share... need more?19:32
ivoksright, if it disconnects on inactivity, then mtu might not help19:32
NorthByNorthWesthmm... path missing?19:33
ivokslol19:33
NorthByNorthWestivoks: lol @ me? ;)19:33
ivoksyes19:33
NorthByNorthWesthehe... sometimes the solution becomes clear when describing it to someone else...19:34
ivoksyes, that's very common19:34
ivokszroysch: so, still working?19:34
NorthByNorthWestbut Im a total samba noob... im just reading the other default shares in the file and making conclusions...19:35
zroyschivoks: so far so good19:35
NorthByNorthWestivoks: argh.... still cant mount19:35
ivokszroysch: that's 15 minutes now19:35
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: did you restart samba when you added the path?19:35
NorthByNorthWestivoks: yes19:35
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: /var/log/samba/log.smbd might help19:35
NorthByNorthWestivoks: http://pastebin.se/199726 doesnt tell me much...19:37
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ivokszroysch: if it works out, see if you can set mtu to 1492 on your gateway, but only on the modem connection19:37
zroyschivoks: ok19:38
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: do other share have spaces in name?19:38
zroyschnot sure still why the centos machine would be ok with the 1500 though?19:38
ivoksshares19:38
NorthByNorthWestivoks: *ahem* nooo... :-[19:39
ivokszroysch: bad network configuration produces very strange behaviours19:39
NorthByNorthWestivoks: are underscores ok?19:39
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: spaces are ok, iirc, but for testing remove them19:39
NorthByNorthWestivoks: yep... just removed spaces to begin with!19:40
NorthByNorthWestivoks: *gnarl* still not working... *chewing on my fist*19:40
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: other shares work, and have same configuration?19:40
NorthByNorthWestivoks: should I pastebin the complete smb.conf?19:41
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: sure19:41
zulivoks: want me to merge rhcs for you?19:42
ivoksyou can pm it to me19:42
ivokszul: from debian? no, i'll do it19:42
zulivoks:okie dokie19:43
ivoksi have to add a patch 'exit 0' at the init script :)19:43
ivoksright bellow #!/bin/sh19:43
ivoksNorthByNorthWest: ?19:48
NorthByNorthWestivoks: its coming... doing copy-paste from a ssh terminal...19:48
ivoks:)19:49
RoAkSoAxivoks, I think there's a way to make users save files in a specific directory and keep those files with the permissions of that folder... I just don't remember how to do it :P19:49
ivoksthere is. acl19:49
RoAkSoAxivoks, I think you can do that by not using acls, but just keeping permissions of file and folders. I remember I did that  so long ago :)19:51
NorthByNorthWestivoks: finally... http://pastebin.se/19:51
NorthByNorthWestargh19:51
ivoksRoAkSoAx: you can use setgid to keep group19:51
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NorthByNorthWesthey WTF???19:52
ivoksRoAkSoAx: but that doesn't stop user of saving with permission she wants19:52
NorthByNorthWestI pressed "Send" and it just killed all my input!!!!19:52
NorthByNorthWest*ROOOAAARRRRR*19:52
ivokshit back19:52
NorthByNorthWest*hulk is angry*   *hulk smash*19:52
RoAkSoAxivoks, what about setting umask?19:53
ivoksof course, but that then applies for all dirs19:54
ivoksfiles19:54
RoAkSoAxoh ok :)19:55
zroyschIvoks19:58
zroyschRead from remote host xxx.x.xx.xx: Connection reset by peer19:58
zroyschConnection to xxx.xxx.xxx.x closed.19:58
ivoksthat's firewall cuting connection19:59
zroyschso firewall needs mtu 1492 you say19:59
ivokson modem side20:00
ivoksmaybe there are too many connections for it?20:01
zroyschwhat do you mean20:03
NorthByNorthWestivoks: well... mounted my local computers shared folder from the server instead... solved my problems for now... thanks for your help anyway! :)20:06
* ivoks busy20:06
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mathiazahasenack: hi - were you able to test bind9 with the ldap dlz in karmic?20:35
ahasenackmathiaz: no, I couldn't come up with the queries it needed for the sdb schema20:35
ahasenackmathiaz: and the package needs a patch20:36
ahasenack(bind)20:36
mathiazahasenack: hm - isn't dlz and sdb two different things?20:36
ahasenackmathiaz: yes, and my config was for the sdb one20:36
ahasenackmathiaz: which is what the bind package in mandriva supported back then20:37
ahasenackmathiaz: dlz works with customizing queries20:37
ahasenackmathiaz: so it's possible to write a config for it to use the sdb schema20:37
ahasenackmathiaz: in theory, that is20:37
mathiazahasenack: ok - bind9 is built with the ldap dlz plugin20:37
ahasenackmathiaz: right, so these were my two difficulties: trying to make it work with sdb schema and the patch to make it work with current libldap20:38
mathiazahasenack: oh - so ldap dlz needs a patch to work20:38
ahasenackmathiaz: let me find the lp bug for it...20:38
mathiazahasenack: and ldap sdb needs to have the schema sorted out20:38
ahasenackmathiaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/22734420:40
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 227344 in bind9 "bind-dlz and ldap api: invalid use of "%" character" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:40
mathiazahasenack: great - thanks20:41
ahasenackmathiaz: regarding the sdb schema, it was just an attempt from me to not have to change the schema from sdb to dlz, so I thought I would give it a try and see if I could make the dlz config read the sdb schema20:41
ahasenackmathiaz: but I got a headache while trying to understand how dlz does its thing :)20:42
mathiazahasenack: right.20:42
ahasenackmathiaz: specially when I saw that it relies on ordering of results or something like that20:42
mathiazahasenack: IIUC the different between sdb and dlz is that dlz can do local caching while sdb does not?20:42
ahasenackmathiaz: maybe, I vaguely remember something about that20:43
ahasenackmathiaz: and dlz is supposedly included upstream,20:43
ahasenackmathiaz: but in a contrib/ directory still20:43
mathiazahasenack: right - sdb is also in the package20:43
mathiazahasenack: I think I'll go with sdb+local slapd replica20:43
ahasenackmathiaz: what do you mean sdb is in the package? We have a bind package patched with sdb?20:44
ahasenackI mean, sdb+ldap20:44
mathiazahasenack: hm - I think so: contrib/sdb/ldap20:44
ahasenackinteresting, maybe it just needs to be enabled at build time or something?20:45
mathiazahasenack: yeah - may be.20:46
ahasenackerichammond: fyi, I was trying to rebundle your dapper amis today20:52
ahasenackerichammond: got bitten by the tar bug regarding sparse files20:52
ahasenackerichammond: dapper has tar 1.15.1, which is the exact borderline version for this bug20:52
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ahasenackerichammond: I then downloaded latest tar from upstream, built it on a dapper machine and copied the resulting binary over to the running instance, adjusted PATH, and only then did the rebundling work20:53
Flare183I've got a load of log files in my /var/log directory, would it been safe to delete the oldest compressed .gz file?20:59
davidnetherlandshi ubuntu server community, i got a question21:01
Flare183!ask | davidnetherlands21:02
ubottudavidnetherlands: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:02
davidnetherlandswhat are the recommended minimum hardware specs for a ubuntu 9.10 server (in terms of mhz or ghz, i know about RAM)21:02
ScottKFlare183: As long as you don't need them.21:02
Flare183ScottK: Alright, just checking21:03
davidnetherlandsand my second question.. where can i find some info on installing a ubuntu server on a computer with 2 hard disks.. say i want one small hd for the system and one big hd for the content (/var/www)21:04
Italian_Plumberi'm running 804 on a pentium III 50021:06
Italian_Plumber512 MB Ram21:06
Flare183davidnetherlands: All you have to do for the second question, is partition it correctly21:06
davidnetherlandsyeah ok italian plumber.. i'm close to that one.. p3 600mhz 512mb21:06
davidnetherlandsso it should work21:06
Italian_PlumberI don't see why not.  I'd install hardy though, it's supported until 2013.21:07
Italian_Plumberunless there's some awesome feature on karmic that you just have to have.21:07
Italian_Plumberthe big question is what are you oging to do with the server?21:07
davidnetherlandsflare183.. but during the installation i'm getting the partition screen.. and only later on (after this screen) i get to install a lamp server21:07
davidnetherlandsso how do i go about that?21:07
davidnetherlandsItalian_Plumber, i'm just experimenting arround with a nas.. a lamp server, maybe some ruby on rails21:08
Italian_Plumberyeah your hardware should do just fine21:09
Italian_PlumberI also have two hard disks21:09
davidnetherlandsthank you Italian_Plumber!21:09
Italian_PlumberI installed hardy on the first one, not connecting the second one.21:09
davidnetherlandsok21:09
davidnetherlandsand then?21:09
Italian_Plumberafterwards, I connected the second one, mounted it in /media/data , and I was done.21:09
davidnetherlandsbut what do you use your 2nd hd for?21:09
Italian_Plumberextra storage21:09
Flare183davidnetherlands: all you have to do is setup the partition stuff right, and then sudo apt-get install the rest of the stuff21:10
Italian_PlumberI use it as a torrent box, nas, internal DNS, and SVN server21:10
davidnetherlandsokay.. nice..21:10
RoyKhow can I download a 'magnet' link from the ubuntu commandline?21:11
davidnetherlandsFlare183, how exactly? that is my next question.. where can i read something about 2 hard disks in a server setup?21:11
lenios_what's a magnet link?21:12
Flare183Ok, am I the only one that uses a server with a GUI?21:12
Flare183Because I have to use my server as my desktop21:12
lenios_you can install server softwares on ubuntu desktop21:12
Italian_Plumbera server with a GUI is a desktop21:12
Italian_Plumbera Desktop without a GUI is a server21:13
Flare183Yeah that's what I'm doing21:13
Flare183so yeah21:13
davidnetherlandsyeah okay.. i know about that21:13
Flare183But it seems like I"m the only one that does that21:13
Italian_PlumberI used to do that here at work.21:13
Italian_PlumberMy desktop also a server21:13
davidnetherlandshaha, being unique is not always a bad thing21:13
Flare183Ahh ok21:13
Flare183Sweet21:13
lenios_i often have openssh-server on my desktop, i guess i'm unique too :p21:14
Flare183lenios_: Same here21:14
Italian_Plumbersometimes the lines are blurred.21:14
lenios_kernel is not exactly the same on server edition and desktop edition21:14
Italian_Plumberwe have a server here at work with a GUI on it that really doesn't need one -- but the moron (my boss) that set it up didn't know that.21:15
lenios_but it shouldn't make any noticeable difference21:15
DragonLorddoes a minimal installation of ubuntu server fit on 512Mb HDD?21:15
Italian_Plumberdragon: no21:15
Flare183DragonLord: Tried it, no way21:15
Italian_Plumberdragon: ... er well... that's a guess anyway.21:15
davidnetherlandsthanks guys, i'm gonna try it!21:15
davidnetherlandsbye21:15
DragonLordItalian_Plumber, Flare183 ok21:16
Italian_PlumberI wouldn't build any computer today without a 30-40GB hard drive.21:16
Flare183Italian_Plumber: I agree with that21:16
Flare183DragonLord: Np21:16
Italian_PlumberI don't think you can buy a HD smaller than 80GB anymore.21:16
lenios_requirements for server editions are 128mB of ram and 1GB of hdd21:16
DragonLordI got a thin client I want to use like a Mumble server and it has 512Mb "HDD" in it :)21:16
Italian_Plumberyeah now that lenois says that, I am reminded that you need at least 128MB to run MySQL.21:17
Flare183haha I've got an old HP vetrca in here right next to me that I wish I could use as a server21:17
Flare183vectra*21:17
Flare183Its like dead ancient21:17
lenios_i have server edition on a 4G eeepc21:18
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erichammondahasenack: So you're saying that you have to use a non-dapper tar to bundle a dapper instance on EC2.21:21
lenios_usage is 23.1% of 3.19GB, for those wondering21:21
erichammondhm, gone.21:21
Italian_Plumberlenois: that's a base install of karmic server?21:24
lenios_with ssh server21:25
Italian_Plumberoh... well ssh server .. .that's, what, 1MB?21:26
lenios_well, remove 1MB from 710MB then21:27
Italian_Plumberyeah I tried running a LAMP server with 64MB of RAM... didn't happen.21:44
Italian_Plumberit was a VM21:44
Flare183Italian_Plumber: I've done it with lower Memory21:44
Flare18332MB'21:44
Italian_Plumberreally?  see I figured it wasn't happening 'cause MySQL says it needs 128MB21:45
Flare183I've got an old dell, that I put Arch Linux onto it and I had to put A LOT of swap on it.21:45
Flare183Like I had to start using flash drives for swap haha21:45
Italian_Plumberoh.  I'm talking hardy21:45
Flare183Ahh ok21:45
Italian_Plumberwith conventional RAM21:45
Flare183ahh ok21:46
Italian_Plumberyeah my regular setup is with 576 MB of RAM... it's an old PC that someone said was "too slow"... but it runs hardy just fine.21:47
Italian_PlumberI just got the thing and installed hardy right over it.21:47
Italian_Plumber... and boom! instant server.21:48
Italian_Plumberjust add water21:48
Italian_Plumberand watch it grow21:48
Flare183xD21:48
Italian_Plumbernow all I need are some big IDE drives21:51
Italian_Plumber'cause it has no SATA controller in it21:51
Italian_Plumberor a PCI SATA controller21:51
Italian_Plumbercheap, I know.21:51
Italian_PlumberMAN it's quiet at the office today21:51
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qman__<Italian_Plumber> I wouldn't build any computer today without a 30-40GB hard drive.22:25
qman__my file server uses a 4GB drive for the system22:25
qman__and a separate raid for storage22:25
lenios_if it's only for the system, it might be better to waste 3-4GB to have a system up and running in case of hardware failure22:27
qman__lenios_, incidentally, several my storage drives failed on the same day, and I lost the RAID, while the 4GB root drive is still going strong23:20
qman__just can't kill those old quantum fireballs23:20
qman__bought new storage drives and built a second array, never even touched the root drive23:21
benediktScottK: this spamassasin header thing is getting even weirder. Sometimes it doesnt show and sometimes it does. And i havent changed the config in the meantime23:25
ruben23hi anyone can suggest, how to rescue forgotten username and password on an ubuntu-server..23:31
benediktruben23: do you have physical access to it?23:37
ruben23yes23:38
benediktthen reboot into a live environment (if it can take the downtime), mount your / and chroot to it and run "passwd <user>"23:39
\shruben23, or just change your kernel boot line on grub: init=/bin/bash ... no password prompt..or boot the rescue system from ubuntu which is also on grub23:44
ruben23ok copy23:45
ruben23thanks23:45
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