[04:23] <researcher> :-(
[04:24] <researcher> hello friends Im just new
[04:24] <researcher> Can I expec to be guided here?
[04:25] <researcher> some very basic question
[04:52] <Ahmuck> anyone seen spicebird?
[06:29] <nubae> Ahmuck, no but cool nickname
[06:29] <nubae> how u doing?
[06:30] <nubae> Ahmuck, if u wanna be really amazed, I mean really really by a edu distro, take a  look at the new opensuse 11.2 (theres a review on my website frontpage www.nubae.com)
[14:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:53] <dgroos> Good Morning sbalneav!
[16:44] <researcher> :)Hello everybody
[16:46] <dgroos> researcher: hello!
[16:47] <researcher> thanks u noticed me
[16:48] <dgroos> :)
[16:48] <researcher> is this the only way to communicate here?
[16:48] <researcher> Cant we make voice talk here?
[16:48] <dgroos> as an irc I think it's only text...
[16:49] <researcher> ok
[16:49] <researcher> I want a picture to appear at the bottom of screen on edubuntu when a kid studies
[16:49] <researcher> is it possible ?
[16:50] <mhall119> what do you mean?
[16:51] <dgroos> yes... a student logs in to their account, right?
[16:51] <mhall119> you want a picture to appear on top of everything else?
[16:51] <dgroos> then?  do you mean this would be their desktop 'wall paper'?
[16:51] <researcher> not wall paper
[16:51] <researcher> at the bottom of the screen
[16:52] <researcher> small pic or text
[16:52] <mhall119> in the panel?  or floating above everything else?
[16:52] <researcher> I must have options
[16:53] <researcher> panel preferred
[16:54] <dgroos> describe how you plan on using it--why you want it--what is the purpose of this picture.
[16:54] <researcher> I want to creat a CD with my name and photo
[16:55] <researcher> so that in whichever cllass it is installed studnet sknow the teacher name and photo
[16:56] <dgroos> don't get the CD part...
[16:56] <researcher> that means its my photo and my name so my laboratory kids know this resource has come  from this teacher
[16:57] <dgroos> how does this relate to the idea of a CD?
[16:57] <researcher> about CD part. .... Want to have self installable edubuntu CD
[16:57] <researcher> when it is inserted and PC started then it installs Edubuntu..
[16:57] <researcher> which edubuntu when used shows my picture and name
[16:58] <researcher> did I make my requirements clear ?
[17:01] <dgroos> getting close!  do you want a permanent install on the PC or do you want to run it off the CD so there is no change made to the HD of the PC?
[17:02] <researcher> Permanent install on the PC
[17:06] <dgroos> options depend, I think, on weather users will be logging in a school wide server.  Or, is there no log in?  If a server, will it be edubuntu server?
[17:06] <researcher> no server
[17:06] <researcher> stand alone pc
[17:07] <researcher> there is no login
[17:07] <dgroos> OK, now there are a few things here.
[17:08] <researcher> yes plz
[17:08] <dgroos> Actually, edubuntu no longer uses CD but DVD--gives more options.
[17:08] <researcher> ok
[17:08] <dgroos> Is there a network available to connect all these stand-alones, to?
[17:09] <researcher> may be at times
[17:10] <researcher> normally unconnected PCs
[17:13] <dgroos> Instead of using a speciallized DVD, I would consider installing on a single PC, customizing it with a picture/name like you want, then by making an image of it onto a flash drive, then going around, from computer to computer, and burning this speciallized image on to each PC.
[17:14] <researcher> thats enough good
[17:14] <dgroos> Then, customizing the PC for another classroom, make new image and repeat process.  'course, could use a USB external HD too.
[17:14] <researcher> thats fine
[17:14] <dgroos> So... there are 2 things here...
[17:14] <researcher> plz
[17:15] <dgroos> 1.  how do you add the image to the bottom of a window (mhall119? he's your man on that).  And...
[17:16] <mhall119> I am?
[17:16] <alkisg> (for an icon or text with a customized picture, see the fish applet: right click on a panel, add applet, fish...)
[17:16] <dgroos> si senor :)
[17:16] <alkisg> (and it supports a custom command when clicked, so you could pop-up a dialog with your name there, with zenity)
[17:17] <dgroos> good evening alkisg
[17:17] <alkisg> Hi all - just dropping an idea and leaving to see a TV show :D
[17:18] <researcher> what am I to do now. Whats this fish applet?
[17:19] <alkisg> http://www.fifi.org/doc/gnome-help-data/html/fish_applet/C/index.html ==> but of course you can put your face instead of a fish
[17:19] <alkisg> Try it on your ubuntu to see.
[17:19] <researcher> oh.thanks
[17:19]  * alkisg will be back later...
[17:20] <researcher> :-D
[17:20] <researcher> how to save this chat for later reference?
[17:22] <dgroos> 2.  to learn about the process of making and using images, check out http://clonezilla.com--pretty slick, pretty efficient too.
[17:22] <researcher> ok.thanks
[17:23] <researcher> it says "server not found"
[17:23] <researcher> ok . Got it
[17:24] <dgroos> lots of ways to save.  besides using the built in possiblities of the chat client you are using, you can copy the whole chat and past it into a wordprocessing document.
[17:24] <researcher> ok
[17:24] <dgroos> sorry--yes http://clonezilla.org
[17:24] <dgroos> Good luck!
[17:25] <researcher> u people r wonderfully helpfull
[17:25] <researcher> may u have all thats Peace,health,Wealth and Joy
[17:27] <dgroos> another resource is join the edubuntu list--it's an e-mail list where you can get help via e-mailing. Do a search for edubuntu users list.
[17:27] <dgroos> Thanks and to you as well.
[17:28] <researcher> good night
[17:28] <researcher> How can I meet you again?
[17:29] <dgroos> 'here' also edubuntu user list.
[17:32] <researcher> see you
[17:32] <researcher> bye
[20:18] <vistro> Hello. I just performed a clean install of Ubuntu on another computer last night, and when I installed edubuntu (after applying all of the package upadates), I can't login after a reboot.
[20:18] <vistro> I logon, and I get the Ubuntu logo and the logon loading thing, and then it bumps me right back to the logon screen
[20:19] <vistro> The only thing that changes is that the screen resolutionchanges to what I picked for my account, but it goes right back to the original resolution when it puts me back at the logon screen
[20:19] <vistro> What do I do?
[20:36] <feathercloud> Hey, running ltsp-server with 3 nics, 2 ltsp-client subnets and an internet connected interface: ldm doesn't start in this case: tty7 echo's nc: invalid option -- 'f'. (using ltsp 5 on ubuntu karmic). Disabling one thin client network iface in dhcp-server 'solves' the issue. Is this a known bug?
[21:09] <vistro> Can anyone here help with a logon problem after installing edubuntu?
[21:13] <alkisg> vistro: on LTSP clients? or on a standalone pc?
[21:13] <vistro> standalone
[21:13] <vistro> once a user is created and logged in
[21:13] <vistro> one logout, and it's useless
[21:14] <vistro> the most I can do is a terminal if I select xsometing from the session menu
[21:14] <vistro> it acts like it will log in, and it goes back to the logon screen
[21:14] <alkisg> See the user's ~/.xsession-errors for any messages
[21:14] <vistro> the most noticable change it goes through in the steps to bring me my desktop is it changes my screen rez for maybe 6 secons
[21:14] <vistro> how do I do that?
[21:15] <alkisg> Get the xterm thing, and run: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[21:15] <vistro> Okay. I'm in the middle of trying to uninstlall edubuntu to see if that helps
[21:16] <vistro> Nope, same song and dance... I'll try that .xsession-errors thing
[21:17] <vistro> what am I looking for here?
[21:17] <vistro> three lines of output
[21:20] <vistro> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[21:21] <vistro> Setting IM through im-switch for locale-en_US.
[21:22] <vistro> Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[21:22] <vistro> and that's it
[21:22] <alkisg> Right, it doesn't tell you anything :(
[21:22] <vistro> I'm not reinstalling the system again
[21:23] <vistro> it's a pain in the ass when it won't let me see half of my screen
[21:23] <alkisg> Well, that's as far as I can go, so either wait for someone else, or try to also ask in #ubuntu
[21:23] <vistro> the people in #ubuntu really don't care
[22:20] <sbalneav> vistro: Have you tried turning off desktop effects?
[22:21] <vistro> can't get in to do that
[22:21] <vistro> I managed to recover it by installing KDE and then loggint into gnome
[22:21] <vistro> but the stupid son of a bitch won't connect to a wireless network now
[22:21] <vistro> greaaatttt OS you got here
[22:22] <vistro> even if I put the god damned wireless card on the stupid router, can't see it for jackl
[22:23] <vistro> I suppose Ubuntu was designed to break wireless compatibility on a desktop machine
[22:23] <sbalneav> What kind if wireless card is it?  Only some wireless carda are supported
[22:24] <vistro> Linksys
[22:24] <vistro> usb card
[22:24] <vistro> it sees it
[22:24] <vistro> but good luck connecting to a network
[22:25] <sbalneav> There are some bugs in NetworkManager that I think are fixed in "Proposed", but not in the main archive.
[22:25] <vistro> then where do I get them
[22:25] <vistro> the card works just fine on my laptop
[22:25] <sbalneav> You might try turning on the "Proposed" archive in software-sources, and doing an update
[22:25] <vistro> thus confirming my theoroy on ubuntu's hate for desktop wireless
[22:26] <sbalneav> System -> Admin -> Software sources
[22:26] <sbalneav> click on "updates" tab
[22:26] <sbalneav> check off "karmic-proposed"
[22:26] <sbalneav> Then update your system.
[22:28] <sbalneav> You're using edubuntu?
[22:31] <sbalneav> vistro: I'm heading home for the day.  I'll be on later on tonight if you need any further help.
[22:37] <vistro> can't do it
[22:37] <vistro> at all. ever
[22:37] <vistro> won't let me log into gnome on any account other than the non-superuser
[22:37] <vistro> so that won't work at all ever
[22:38] <vistro> wish there was a magic command that turned off the shitty_experience package
[22:38] <vistro> somehow my laptop turned that off for me
[22:38] <vistro> how do I enter this menu on SDE?