[00:11] <teodoro> hi, why kubuntu doesn't have an splash theme like ubuntu?
[00:12] <nilsson> hey, I have a question
[00:12] <nilsson> how can I have konsole launch at login, running a few programs
[00:13] <nilsson> for example: irssi, htop, iftop, ncmpcpp
[00:30] <hamid> hhhhh
[01:08] <scunizi> there's a widgit called opendesktop.. I know it connects to something but what is it intended towards?
[01:15] <gorgonzola> scunizi its intended to find other people using kde near you
[01:15] <gorgonzola> scunizi but i have never used it
[01:15] <gorgonzola> might wanna look here: http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/01/social-desktop-starts-arrive
[01:15] <ari__> anybody knows of a panel clock similar of gnome's (with various time-zones)? Can't figure out how to do that in KDE.
[01:16] <russlar> ari__: World Clock
[01:16] <russlar> ari__: shoudl come standard, might be in plasma-addons
[01:16] <ari__> can I put that in a panel as a digital clock??
[01:17] <gorgonzola> ari__ what do you mean?
[01:17] <scunizi> gorgonzola: thanks.. ummm.. ok.. what't the purpose of the widgit dashboard icon? after clicking I get a tab top dead center of the screen but don't see any functionality about it.
[01:17] <ari__> just as the standard digital clock....
[01:18] <ari__> the same gnome digital clock would suffice, but I'm in KDE now..
[01:18] <gorgonzola> scunizi, you are talking about the social desktop thingy? if its that, then i guess you have to configure it first
[01:19] <gorgonzola> ari__ i'm sorry, i don;t know the gnome clock. but the standard clock displays time zones if you tell it to. i have like five time zones in mine :)
[01:19] <scunizi> gorgonzola: no.. different icon.. on my desktop it's just to the right of the desktop switcher on the bottom bar
[01:20] <russlar> ari__: yes
[01:20] <ari__> how??
[01:20] <russlar> ari__: world clock?
[01:21] <ari__> digital clock
[01:22] <ari__> In Gnome I click on it and it just shows the calendar and the clocks for the different zones
[01:22] <russlar> ari__: same way you would ahy other...
[01:22] <ari__> can't make it to do it with the digital clock
[01:22] <ari__> I go to "Digital clock settings"
[01:22] <ari__> then Time zones
[01:23] <ari__> it just doesn't show.
[01:25] <gorgonzola> scunizi: mmmm, you mean the "show dashboard" widget? if that's it, it's supposed to move all windows aside and show you your dashboard, ie the desktop in plasma-speak
[01:29] <scunizi> gorgonzola: ah.. ok.. I didn't have any windows open to move.. and dashboard is ? the desktop?
[01:30] <gorgonzola> scunizi: not quite. is the place where the widgets that are not attached to panels live in. so if you have a bunch of widgets in the "desktop", show dashboard will fade all windows and show your widgets
[01:30] <gorgonzola> scunizi, like in mac os x. personally, i'm an old fashioned guy, so i use show desktop. but its almost the same thing. feel free to play with the different options.
[01:39] <scunizi> gorgonzola: moving from gnome to kde is an adventure in relearning
[01:46] <scunizi> gorgonzola: interesting widgit "opendesktop" .. looks like I had already signed up for it previously but forgot about it.
[01:47] <maco> scunizi: its your kde-look account
[01:47] <maco> or gnome-look
[01:48] <maco> (its all one backend)
[01:49] <compilerwriter_> It is even more of and adventure these days with plasma scunizi and gorgonzola.  But gorgonzola I think you will like the change once accustomed to it.
[01:49] <maco> its pretty now!
[01:53] <gorgonzola> compilewriter oh, nevermind me, i've been using it for years :P
[01:53] <Ev0luti0n_> anybody here guys?
[01:54] <gorgonzola> scunizi sorry, got a little distracted. yes, it's very different, but if you get used to it you'll love it. its the future! gotta go now. good luck with the learning.
[01:56] <compilerwriter_> Oops it appears I have grabbed the wrong end of the stick.  scunizi  you will like it once you get used to the change.
[01:57] <ari__> how to deselect time zones now? I selected all by mistake!
[01:58] <ari__> Ctrl+A - Select all; Ctrl+Shift+A (system "Deselect") - Nothing :(
[01:58] <ari__> got all timezones selected! :(
[01:59] <maco> click somewhere?
[02:01] <ari__> maco: nah, doesn't work
[02:02] <ari__> maco: just removed it and started over.
[02:10] <awhatley> anyone know about dual booting with OSX
[02:24] <Morydd> I'm getting frequent instances of a window popping up saying "/user/share/apport/apport-kde needs administrative privileges. Please enter your password."
[02:42] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[02:55] <aybabtu> a few days ago i found a open index of movies i wrote a very simple bash script using wget -c  user input for url and max download speed and tonight i get a 403 error forbidden what are the odds?
[02:55] <aybabtu> so mad right now
[02:57] <Erthe> I think someone noticed ;)
[02:57] <aybabtu> yup
[02:57] <aybabtu> and i didnt tell a soul
[02:57] <Erthe> The server administrator probably banned your IP
[02:58] <aybabtu> somebady needs a raise day before thanksgiving 9pm
[02:58] <aybabtu> you think ? hope not hope he chmod 700 that shit or ill be back in 5
[03:00] <aybabtu> it eas pretty much my first script it is simple but i got tired of typing then the max download part was just simple to script  and necesarry due to my connection
[03:02] <aybabtu> wget has a proxy switch yes?
[03:03] <aybabtu> k brb
[03:10]  * aybabtu is grabbing a beer then man wget
[03:19] <Serraphyn> Can someone help me, I can't seem to get a method of sharing my printer with my windows based laptop
[03:33] <maquero> un tema para la biblia de kubuntu sería la instalacion en vmware
[03:34] <Serraphyn> no hablo espanol
[04:20] <Morydd> I'm getting frequent instances of a window popping up saying "/user/share/apport/apport-kde needs administrative privileges. Please enter your password."
[04:29] <donPeche> .
[04:51] <shahul> hi
[04:52] <shahul> anybody there?
[04:52] <keithzg> yeah
[04:52] <aybabtu> hello shahul
[04:52] <keithzg> although I'm fighting dependency hell :P
[04:57] <pulaski> Hello, I'm running 9.10 karmic koala,  I don't know if that has anything to do with firefox 3.5.5 crashing when I try to watch a streaming video.  When I bring firefox back I get this annoying screen "Well, this is embarassing..."  Has anyone else had this experience? Could this be related to karmic koala?
[05:00] <cherry_> how would I auto start nm-applet in karmic?
[05:02] <cherry_> how do I create an xorg.conf, I need a resolution that is not automatically detected?
[05:02] <cherry_> on an Intel gfx chipset
[05:06] <smorg> cherry_: use xrandr. If you want to generate one use "xorg -config". If it isn't available in xrandr then you probably won't be able to set it in xorg.conf
[05:06] <smorg> cherry_: there are several other ways to automatically generate an xorg.conf as well iirc.
[05:08] <smorg> Do you guys have something similar to Gentoo's stages where you can just untar and go, or do I actually have to download the install disk and use it's installer?
[05:09] <freetux> good nite
[05:11] <freetux> i got a question is there any irc in spanish arond cuz i need help with somthin'
[05:18] <aybabtu> wget using a proxy?
[05:24] <freetux> irc in spanish
[05:24] <freetux> ?
[05:35] <keithzg> cherry_: are you auto-starting nm-applet in KDE then?
[05:36] <harolddong> freetux #ubuntu-es I believe
[05:37] <keithzg> just make sure there's a .desktop file in your $HOME/.kde/Autostart folder and it'll start automatically; naturally, the same goes for any .desktop file you put there
[05:40] <Roasted> Does anybody find that if you right click anything in the quick file folder search menu next to the K button that KDE crashes?
[05:42] <harolddong> is anybody else using strigi to index their kmail emails?  I set it up but upon search the only results that turn are the raw data files in the kmail profile folder, which have to be opened with kate to look for the email referencing what was searched.  Is there anyway to get it to display results in a more meaningful and usable way?
[05:43] <stevo> ello!
[05:43] <Roasted> hi
[05:43] <Roasted> stevo are you a crazy kde user
[05:43] <stevo> remember me?
[05:44] <stevo> yea
[05:44] <Roasted> question for you
[05:44] <Roasted> you know the quick launch file/folder thing
[05:44] <stevo> im using xubuntu right now
[05:44] <Roasted> in the panel
[05:44] <stevo> yea
[05:44] <Roasted> if you click on that to expand the menu
[05:44] <Roasted> and then right click something in the menu... have you ever had KDE crash?
[05:44] <stevo> nope
[05:44] <Roasted> oh
[05:44] <Roasted> mine crashes every single time I right click anything in that menu
[05:44] <Roasted> :)
[05:44] <stevo> it only shows to add it to favorites only tho
[05:45] <Roasted> I dont even get that, KDE just gives me the finger and crashes
[05:45] <stevo> that is the only that happens when u right click in that thing, the name, and the button to add to favorites
[05:45] <Roasted> yeah, I didnt know that. I downloaded an ISO and I thought I could right click and open with K3B. But it just crashed.
[05:46] <stevo> u seem like you have a broken install... or u installed a theme or somthin for plasma?
[05:46] <Roasted> I tried right clicking folders and it too crashed.
[05:46] <Roasted> well I might have a broken install, casue after all I installed 9.04 Jaunty and tried to upgrade KDE which didn't seem to pan out too well.
[05:46] <Roasted> I had some issues and tried some things to fix it.
[05:46] <Roasted> and I got it workin, but, meh
[05:46] <stevo> i done that too
[05:46] <Roasted> I wish Karmic didnt hate my computer
[05:46] <Roasted> I'd run karmic in a heartbeate
[05:46] <stevo> it made the splash screen not work, and the xserver not work
[05:46] <Roasted> but I'm sorry - I need my system to actually function
[05:47] <stevo> karmic isn't all it is cracked up to be
[05:47] <Roasted> well, no, but karmic has the latest KDE
[05:47] <stevo> mine had a bunch of drivers and stuff fail, so my hardware couln't be used at all
[05:48] <Roasted> karmic fails to detect all 4 of my hdds properly
[05:48] <Roasted> 2 of my drives are for network storage
[05:48] <stevo> that is what karmic done to me
[05:48] <Roasted> so if I cant mount those, no file server
[05:48] <stevo> ya
[05:48] <Roasted> its a common problem in karmic from what I've read
[05:48] <Roasted> on your kde machine do you run 9.04?
[05:48] <stevo> just wait until lucid, dude
[05:49] <Roasted> well, yeah, but lucid is months away
[05:49] <stevo> ya, i run 9.04, I done a fresh install to downgrade from karmic
[05:49] <stevo> the kernel with it also fails
[05:49] <Roasted> do you really think my issue is a broken install?
[05:49] <stevo> it is like half done, I had to fall back
[05:50] <stevo> well... have you used any new themes, then after that, did it crash
[05:50] <Roasted> yeah I have tried other themes
[05:50] <Roasted> which that's another question in itself
[05:50] <Roasted> why do themes only apply themselves to the panel?
[05:50] <Roasted> I want them to apply to everything like it did in gnome land
[05:50] <stevo> try to get everything default
[05:51] <Roasted> whats the default theme called again?
[05:51] <stevo> oxygen
[05:51] <Roasted> oh wow
[05:51] <Roasted> I amo n the oxygen theme
[05:51] <Roasted> I have like a dozen installed though
[05:51] <harolddong> the only problem I had with karmic was pulseaudio being a non-fuctioning pile of poo and having to be removed.  Otherwise it's been a joy. Nepomuk works pretty nicely now which I enjoy
[05:52] <stevo> what are you looking at, plasma or the appearance setting
[05:52] <Roasted> appearance setting
[05:52] <Roasted> I dont recall touching plasma
[05:52] <Roasted> I dont even know how to be honest. Im kind of a new KDE user.
[05:52] <stevo> change it to qt then
[05:52] <stevo> qt is supposed to be the default of the defaults
[05:53] <Roasted> QT under appearance?
[05:53] <stevo> yea
[05:53] <stevo> the one from system settings
[05:53] <stevo> or at least something that contains qt
[05:54] <stevo> i actually think it is the best theme, as it has animated progress bars :)
[05:54] <Roasted> hm, not sure I'm seeing anything in sys settings
[05:54] <Roasted> Im going to install Kubuntu on my work laptop to see if it has the crash issue there
[05:54] <stevo> you go to system settings > Appearance
[05:55] <stevo> it won't I assure you
[05:55] <Roasted> how can you be so sure?
[05:55] <stevo> quitting in the middle of an upgrade has screwed me over countless times
[05:55] <Roasted> I didnt quit in the middle of an upgrade.
[05:55] <Roasted> I just tried to update KDE itself, not to karmic.
[05:55] <stevo> ahhhhhhhhh
[05:56] <stevo> that the problem
[05:56] <stevo> i thot u were upgradin to karmic
[05:56] <Roasted> is there a way I can revert KDE back to square one?
[05:56] <Roasted> just like - purge to default
[05:56] <stevo> i don't really have a fix, but you can report a bug
[05:56] <Roasted> all settings
[05:56] <Roasted> but is it truly a bug?
[05:56] <stevo> uhhhh... not really
[05:56] <Roasted> I mean it was me screwin around lol
[05:57] <stevo> it is a true bug
[05:57] <stevo> i think at least
[05:57] <Roasted> how so?
[05:57] <Roasted> I followed a guide to upgrade to the latest KDE
[05:57] <Roasted> I got some errors along the line.
[05:57] <Roasted> *shrug*
[05:57] <Roasted> I'm not seeing how that's a bug. Do you really think it is?
[05:58] <stevo> well, a bug is a problem in programming where something does not work as it should
[05:58] <stevo> i think that should qualify
[05:58] <stevo> just report it, sum1 will fix it or come up with solution down the line
[05:59] <stevo> put it in the forums too
[05:59] <stevo> guess what....
[05:59] <Roasted> what?
[05:59] <stevo> I am using a windows 98 computer with xubuntu and it works perfectly
[06:00] <Roasted> lol?
[06:00] <stevo> ????
[06:00] <stevo> lol is a question now?
[06:01] <stevo> any other problems that I might be able to help u with
[06:02] <Roasted> eh, not at the moment
[06:02] <Roasted> except I never found that QT setting :P
[06:02] <Roasted> oh and another thing
[06:02] <stevo> yea?
[06:02] <Roasted> if I boot my main rig here I'm on now to the livecd, and right click the file where KDE crashed and tis fine on livecd, does that prove I have a broken install?
[06:03] <stevo> qtcurve
[06:03] <Roasted> for widget style?
[06:04] <stevo> no, qtcurve for appearance
[06:04] <stevo> that was back when i didn't know you tried to install kde
[06:04] <Roasted> ah
[06:05] <stevo> yea, the install is broken tho
[06:05] <Roasted> what do you think about the lviecd idea?
[06:05] <stevo> the idea to do what?
[06:05] <stevo> get the kde off of the live cd?
[06:05] <Roasted> no no
[06:05] <Roasted> Im just wondering if my train of thought is correct
[06:06] <Roasted> so Im on my main rig now, and KDE crashes when I right click an item in the file/folder quick view thing in the panel
[06:06] <Roasted> we know that, each time I right click, bam KDE crashes
[06:06] <stevo> brb, system reboot, yes your thought is correct
[06:06] <Roasted> if I boot this system to a livecd and duplicate the same steps and it works
[06:06] <Roasted> broken install?
[06:06] <Roasted> ah okay
[06:07] <tje> I've got a Gateway MX6441, uses the snd-atiixp drivers for sound.  I _believe_ the modem is part of the sound card chipset, but cannot verify.
[06:07] <tje> I have the snd-atiixp-modem module loaded, but an lspci shows no modems listed.
[06:08] <tje> The googling I've done thus far shows plenty of examples of systems using the ATI IXP AC97 sound card and modules which also detects a modem using the associated drivers.
[06:09] <tje> Anyone out there with a Gateway laptop of similar model that can tell me what drivers I may need to load to get the modem and what device out of /dev it would be using?
[06:12] <stevo> im back
[06:12] <stevo> that was a fast reboot
[06:13] <Serraphyn> Can anyone help me share my printer on my network, I can map it but then it says unable to connect, access denied from my windows laptop
[06:13] <stevo> Roasted?
[06:13] <Roasted> whats up
[06:13] <stevo> serraphyn sorry, i do not know anything about printers
[06:13] <tje> BRB
[06:13] <stevo> waddap
[06:14] <Roasted> installin kubuntu 904 on my work laptop
[06:14] <stevo> hey, could i remote connect do your desktop to diagnose it?
[06:15] <Roasted> to my desktop??
[06:15] <stevo> yea
[06:15] <Roasted> you cant walk me through it?
[06:15] <Roasted> Im not a linux noob - just a kde noob :P
[06:16] <stevo> ya, but i can just speed thru it really fast
[06:16] <Serraphyn> yeah I'm tempted to install gnome, seems its network apps seem to have less issues, just KDE looks so pretty
[06:16] <Roasted> you speeding through it really fast does nothing for me in terms of learning it though
[06:16] <stevo> saves me time
[06:17] <stevo> i cant get time back, ya know?
[06:17] <Roasted> still does nothing for me :P
[06:17] <Roasted> I may just nuke thuis install anyway
[06:17] <Roasted> I'd like to start fresh now that I got my feet wet ewith KDE
[06:17] <stevo> i just wanna remote konnect (kde joke)
[06:18] <Roasted> ;)
[06:18] <Roasted> stevo do you use gnome a lot too
[06:19] <stevo> yea
[06:19] <Roasted> whats your bread and butter/
[06:19] <stevo> and xfce
[06:19] <stevo> mac, that right there is my bread and butter
[06:19] <Roasted> are you serious?
[06:19] <stevo> yea
[06:20] <Roasted> I'm sorry to hear that
[06:20] <Roasted> ;)
[06:20] <stevo> i don't have one, but i use them at the library often
[06:20] <Roasted> I have one
[06:20] <Roasted> it pisses me off beyond anything I've ever experienced
[06:20] <stevo> with leopard?
[06:20] <Roasted> and I work in IT
[06:20] <Roasted> no
[06:20] <Roasted> it's an older one
[06:20] <stevo> OSX
[06:20] <Roasted> I'm just a hater of Mac in general
[06:20] <Roasted> yes osx
[06:20] <Roasted> 10.4
[06:21] <stevo> so thats... tiger?
[06:21] <Roasted> I hate how the company is ran, I hate how nazi driven they are, I hate how self centered they are, the list goes on and on.
[06:21] <Roasted> I think
[06:21] <Roasted> 10.3 was jaguar I think, then tiger, so yeah
[06:21] <stevo> is it one of them weird pop out monitors
[06:21] <Roasted> no
[06:21] <Roasted> ibook g4
[06:21] <stevo> ohhhh
[06:21] <Roasted> it can barely handle youtube videos
[06:21] <stevo> yea those suck
[06:21] <Roasted> its so bad
[06:21] <Roasted> we just got rid of all of the macs at work
[06:21] <stevo> just the environment is good
[06:21] <stevo> they run like shit tho
[06:22] <Roasted> I could never justify buying a mac
[06:22] <Roasted> ever
[06:22] <Roasted> I look at a mac, and I look at linux and a regular laptop
[06:22] <stevo> leopards stole a bunch of compiz effects and called it all their own
[06:22] <Roasted> and mac has nothing, absolutely nothing that linux couldnt offer on ar egular laptop at a fraction of the price
[06:22] <Roasted> the entire mac OSX in general was a bunch of openbsd that mac took, closed off, and licesned, and called their own
[06:23] <Roasted> bunch of morons, if you ask me
[06:23] <stevo> well anyway, i wanna remote desktop you
[06:23] <Roasted> sorry - I'm about to reboot and get kubuntu rolling again
[06:23] <Roasted> once my laptop finishes here
[06:23] <stevo> just go to krfb
[06:24] <stevo> say... where did those macs go that your company trashed?
[06:24] <Roasted> auction
[06:24] <stevo> aww
[06:24] <Roasted> I work at a school district
[06:24] <Roasted> we're very community involved
[06:24] <Roasted> so we have local auctions
[06:24] <stevo> okay
[06:25] <Roasted> about half of them didnt work
[06:25] <Roasted> I opened the laptop cart and all I saw were green post its on them
[06:25] <stevo> my town is just a bunch of white trash smokin marijuana, but that's what humboldt's about
[06:25] <Roasted> DOES NOT WORK, DOES NOT CHARGE PROPERLY, DOES NOT HAVE INTERNET, etc
[06:25] <stevo> hahaha
[06:25] <Roasted> and to think some people believe mac's hardware is something spectacular :P
[06:25] <Roasted> typical mobos, typical hdd's, typical procs
[06:25] <stevo> no it aint
[06:25] <Roasted> not to say mac hardware is bad
[06:26] <Roasted> its just, the same as anybody else
[06:26] <stevo> steve jobs is like hitler
[06:26] <stevo> naw, the ppc processors have a small life to them
[06:28] <stevo> where ya live, east coast, west coast, or middle
[06:28] <Roasted> east
[06:28] <Roasted> this laptop is giving me the finger when trying to connect to my wifi
[06:28] <stevo> hehe, im at the coast of the west, deep in redwoods
[06:29] <stevo> you should visit the oregon coast, it is sooo beautiful
[06:30] <stevo> that is a long drive tho, but i am just sayin
[06:30] <Roasted> hahahaha, yeah
[06:30] <Roasted> helluva drive
[06:30] <stevo> any cool places on east coast?
[06:30] <Roasted> steve, my brotha, it was nice talkin to ya, but I gotta reboot this hizzy and get things rolling before 4 am hits
[06:30] <Roasted> just the typical beach
[06:31] <Roasted> stay away from jersey tho :P
[06:31] <stevo> k
[06:31] <Roasted> crazy drivers
[06:31] <Roasted> (bad) drivers
[06:31] <stevo> stay away from oakland
[06:31] <Roasted> lol
[06:31] <stevo> too many gangsters
[06:31] <Roasted> ha, good tip
[06:31] <Roasted> well, bro, take care
[06:31] <Roasted> I appreciate the help
[06:31] <Roasted> Im sure I'll see ya around again
[06:31] <stevo> ya gonna be back on?
[06:31] <stevo> today?
[06:32] <Roasted> I dont know, I was up till 430 am last night
[06:32] <Roasted> had to get up at 7
[06:32] <stevo> happy thanksgiving
[06:32] <Roasted> I'm kinda dead :P
[06:32] <Roasted> you too man, thanks
[06:32] <Roasted> peace easy man
[06:33] <danub> hey all
[06:33] <danub> what is the command to delete a symlink?
[06:33] <danub> i want to make sure i dont accidently delete everything
[06:33] <danub> i thought it was rm -l link
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[06:34] <stevo> adrina, what the heck are you doig
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <danub> nevermind, got it :D
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <stevo> happy thanksgiving
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <danub> i dont think she knows what is happening lol
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <danub> or she is testing a irc flooder
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35]  * danub shrugs
[06:35] <Andrina> \
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[06:36] <stevo> any cool places around your area? I am about to do a cross country
[06:45] <dillon> Happy Thanksgiving! (for those in the central and eastern time zones of the US anyway)
[07:07] <tje> OK, got the modem figured out.  I had it turned off in the BIOS.  Durrrp.
[07:07] <tje> AC97, snd-atiixp-modem
[07:07] <tje> I can use minicom to connect to the serial port, it responds to an "ATZ" and whatnot.
[07:08] <tje> But when I try to dial out (with "ATDT12345678"), I get the following in dmesg(8):   "atiixp-modem: codec read timeout"
[07:08] <tje> Various reg values of "reg 0", "reg 1c" and "reg 3c".   Any thoughts?   A google search returned nothing.
[07:09] <tje> I found a fix for a similar problem relating to the sound drivers whereby it said to pass "ac97_codec=0" to the snd-atiixp module in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf, but that param is invalid for the snd-atiixp-modem module.
[07:11] <tje> RTFS of atiixp_modem.c reveals very few parameters; index, id, and ac97_clock.  None of which appear (based on their description) to be of any use here.
[07:29] <mrksbrd> j /gnome
[07:44] <mostafa_> hey there how can i set a shortcut key for my applications for ex. Terminal
[07:45] <mostafa_> ?
[08:13] <altrortla> Hei guys a tip please ... for long time I was without ADSL. Now I'm back but no upgrade or installation is possible... (when I choose to install a program Kubuntu 8.04 won't to select it ...) what may be wrong?
[08:29] <jussi01> altrortla: what happens when you run sudo apt-get update ?
[08:53] <Azeotrope> I installed KDE in Ubuntu and I am very very disappointed. Gnome loaded KDE mouse cursors, KDE loaded screenlets and avant. Terrible mess.
[09:01] <noaXess> hi all
[09:02] <noaXess> i have standard longin window/design activated on a customer karmic.. ther are three profiles/users... but i need to input usernames instead of having a userlist at login, any idea how to change that? the settings, that the userlist should be shown is activated..
[09:08] <jonathan__> hey guys im just wondering where can i get imake source code from?
[09:08] <jonathan__> !imake
[09:08] <jonathan__> !info imake
[09:08] <altrortla> Sorry I was bunched OUT ... Using adept installator I cannot select any program ... No upgrade is possible (what can I do?)
[09:10] <altrortla> any tips?
[09:10] <noaXess> altrortla: over konsole: sudo apt-get update
[09:11] <noaXess> and then sudo apt-get -f install
[09:11] <noaXess> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:13] <altrortla> noaXess: Ok thanks ... I'm going to try
[09:13] <jonathan__> !apt-fix | altrortla
[09:13] <noaXess> nop
[09:13] <jonathan__> altrortla: try the command the bot gave ya that will finish installing anythign that didnt previously finish installing
[09:14] <jonathan__> ill be back need to recompile konversation from latest svn
[09:30] <raziel> hi
[09:35] <cemal> a
[09:44] <noaXess> i have standard longin window/design activated on a customer karmic.. ther are three profiles/users... but i need to input usernames instead of having a userlist at login, any idea how to change that? the settings, that the userlist should be shown is activated..
[09:45] <Tm_T> noaXess: perhaps the theme that is used in kdm doesn't support userlist
[09:45] <noaXess> Tm_T: it's the standard oxygen-air them
[09:45] <noaXess> bad
[09:46] <Tm_T> noaXess: I have no idea what that does support
[09:46]  * Tm_T doesn't use kdm themes at all currently
[10:02] <ghostcube> noaXess: you can choose in gdm settings to use the user list maybe the theme doesnt want it
[10:02] <ghostcube> if you disable theming it should work
[10:02] <ghostcube> kdm settings
[10:13] <noaXess> ghostcube: ok.. try that
[10:34] <vistakiller> how can i install .plasmoid file in kubuntu?
[10:49] <vistakiller> elliniko plasmoid eortologio edo http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Greek+eortologio?content=116113
[12:02] <oversize> while upgrading to karmic using the kde updater i could not download a few files. Yesterday some1 told me to better user do-release-upgrade. But that fails like this: http://dpaste.com/125415/  and as you can see, the machine is able to connect to the net. Can i make do-release-upgrade more verbose to tell me what exactly went wrong? thx
[12:03] <bradpitt> hi.. i have 2 hdd, one is ubuntu and the other one is kubuntu. but i just can't choose what i want to start with because i don't see grub screen. it's always boot from first hard drive. and when i try to run sudo update-grub2 the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/328420/ . please help :)
[12:09] <abel> Hi everyone! My sound doesnt work what is possible to do?
[12:10] <abel> What tools can help configure sound?
[12:18] <jastonas> hi
[12:25] <abel> Anybody! what driver is sutable for acl662 rev1 sound card???
[13:48] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:49] <bradpitt> hi. does anybody have any idea why sometimes i see grub screen and sometimes i don't, it's just go directly to usplash screen.
[13:58] <paolopoz> I have a problem with KDE after kernel upgrade on 9.10
[14:00] <paolopoz> KDE starts but all windows are w/o borders and title bar + I'm not able to use keyboard (writing, moving up/down)
[14:02] <paolopoz> any guess?
[14:02] <Tm_T> paolopoz: sounds like kwin crashes or bugs, hmmmm
[14:04] <paolopoz> I already tried to: uninstall and reinstall fglrx, update to 4.3.3, restore previous kernel
[14:05] <Tm_T> paolopoz: can you get files to pastebin from your Kubuntu? I assume you're on another system right now
[14:07] <acemo> how can i create gpt disks during the installation of ubuntu-server 9.10?
[14:09] <paolopoz> Tm_T: not copy/paste but manual copy
[14:12] <bradpitt> hi.. how can i install kubuntu-restricted-extras without installing Sun Java because i already have openjdk? thanks.
[14:16] <paolopoz> Tm_T: I can find away to pastebin. Do you need some log?
[14:21] <rodrigo__> hi
[14:23] <rodrigo__> aca no se habla?
[14:23] <rork> !es rodrigo__
[14:23] <rork> !es | rodrigo__
[14:24] <rodrigo__> pfff
[14:24] <rork> sorry
[14:25] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, do you think sun java and openjdk interfere , is that your reasoning , because they do different things
[14:26] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, just describe your problem and we'll try to help
[14:30] <Tm_T> !paste | paolopoz
[14:31] <Tm_T> paolopoz: but the files I wanted to see are long ones, so writing them manually isn't fun
[14:36] <paolopoz> Tm_T: I asked to kde channel and I fixed it
[14:37] <paolopoz> I mistakenly uninstalled kde-window-manager
[14:37] <Tm_T> paolopoz: ah, ok, good to hear it was that simple case (:
[14:38] <paolopoz> Tm_T: thank you anyway (-:
[14:39] <Tm_T> np
[14:41] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : sorry for late reply.. i found that sometimes i can't open applet succesfully with sun java. but with openjdk i have no problem. what i'm afraid here is if i install both java i will experience a conflict.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> what applet ?
[14:45] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : java applet on facebook when you uploading photos.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> a different browser might work better , i noticed that my wall picture doesn't show up on facebook on this pc but it does on my laptop or if I use a different browser
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Firefox seemas to have some bugs , it's not java that's the the problem IMO
[14:48] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : ok let me try with different browser, ill go with arora.
[14:48] <nikitis> Hey guys, got a technical question.  I bought a 1.5TB Drive.  I'm going to plug it in and backup data from my other drives.  My current drive setup is sda1 is windows.  sdb1 is /, sdb2 and sdc1 are lg0-vg0 which is mounted as /home.  if I did a 'dd' command of lg0-vg0 which is two drives. would it work to copy it bit for bit onto the single 1.5 TB drive?
[14:49] <s2r> Yesterday I installed Kubuntu in my home desktop and later I realized that if I don't login Kubuntu does not connect to the wireless network. Is there any way to disable Knetworkmanager and create a global default connection?
[14:49] <nikitis> So i could replace the two lg0-vg0 drives and use just the single drive?
[14:58] <afeijo> can I install phpmyadmin 3 with apt-get, or only ver 2 ?
[14:59] <Mamarok> afeijo: are you using karmic?
[14:59] <afeijo> no
[14:59] <Mamarok> the current version there is 3.2.2
[15:00] <afeijo> my server runs ubuntu 8.04
[15:00] <Mamarok> afeijo: which version of Kubuntu do you run?
[15:00] <Mamarok> ah, then I don't know
[15:00] <Mamarok> afeijo: maybe ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:01] <afeijo> I will thanks
[15:01] <Mamarok> you are welcome
[15:01] <afeijo> whats the command to check linux version? uname -a didnt help
[15:02] <tsimpson> afeijo: uname -r
[15:02] <afeijo> that gives the core ver, what about the kubuntu ver?
[15:02] <tsimpson> oh
[15:02] <tsimpson> lsb_release -a
[15:02] <afeijo> thanks :)
[15:02] <afeijo> yeah my server run ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS x64
[15:06] <tsimpson> afeijo: you could file a bug requesting that a recent version be put into hardy-backports, or find someone with it in their PPA, or create a package yourself
[15:07] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : here's the result from 3 different browser, i still have the same error. firefox http://imagebin.org/73088 arora http://imagebin.org/73089 chrome http://imagebin.org/73090
[15:08] <BluesKaj> yeah, bradpitt so install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:09] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : yes i have it installed.
[15:10] <tsimpson> you can install both sun-java and open-jdk at the same time without issue
[15:10] <tsimpson> use the command line tool "update-java-alternatives" to set which the system will use
[15:11] <bradpitt> ok tsimpson i'll do it
[15:13] <tsimpson> you'll need the icedtea6-plugin package for the browsers to use
[15:13] <bradpitt> kk
[15:14] <s2r> can I remove Knetworkmanager just by doing apt-get remove?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> s2r, what are going to use as an alternative?
[15:19] <marek_> ads
[15:19] <blablabla> hello i need the newest version of flashplayer but i can install or play it,help me please
[15:21] <blablabla> i can't play or install the newest version of flashplayer from adobe,does anyone how can help me please
[15:23] <Quintasan> blablabla: apt://flashplugin-installer
[15:23] <Quintasan> blablabla: ehh, nvm Open KPackageKit, search for flashplugin-installer
[15:23] <Quintasan> blablabla: install it
[15:26] <s2r> BluesKaj I was thinking on using wpa_supplicant directly
[15:26] <blablabla> strange it is already installed but is not working,strange
[15:26] <s2r> BluesKaj The problem is that I don't want to log in for the network to be connected.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> s2r, eth0 or wifi ?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> oh wpa ..hmm dunno
[15:31] <BluesKaj> I use wicd for wifi /wpa2 on our laptop
[15:32] <bradpitt> tsimpson : what should i do next after update-java-alternatives? there are a lot of cmd line like -l , -s , -a , -h
[15:32] <tsimpson> bradpitt: -l lets you list the java alternatives, -a sets it to automatically choose for you and -s lets you set it
[15:33] <tsimpson> so "sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-openjdk" will set it to use open-jdk
[15:33] <tsimpson> and changing "java-6-openjdk" to "java-6-sun" will use suns java
[15:36] <bradpitt> tsimpson : i get output error http://paste.ubuntu.com/328559/
[15:38] <s2r> BluesKaj wifi (usb)
[15:39] <s2r> BluesKaj wpa2 works fine with wpa supplicant. Does wicd allow for system connections or you have to login first?
[15:39] <tsimpson> bradpitt: those are all in openjdk-6-jdk, which you may not need unless developing java stuff
[15:40] <tsimpson> s2r: it needs you to be logged in
[15:40] <BluesKaj> s2r, wicd will remember your wpa settings including pw and will auto-connect a t bootup
[15:40] <tsimpson> I thought it was just another "remember my settings" app
[15:41] <BluesKaj> s2r, but you have to set it up initially of course
[15:41] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, wicd is a network manager
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[15:41] <tsimpson> so is network manager :)
[15:42] <s2r> BluesKaj Knetworkmanager does the same thing. The issue is that I don't want to login first. I want that the pc connects to the wifi when it's turned on.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, but wicd  is more mature and stable
[15:42] <s2r> blablabla I'll try with plain wpa_supplicant and the adding it to rc.local
[15:42] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: it looks like a GUI though, so how will it run at boot?
[15:42] <s2r> blablabla sorry it was for BluesKaj
[15:43] <blablabla> no problem s2r
[15:43] <BluesKaj> it will put a small icin in the taskbar with a signal strength colour indicator
[15:43] <bradpitt> tsimpson : so it's gonna be fine.. ok thank you.
[15:43] <s2r> BluesKaj I want to turn on the pc leave for work and then be able to connect back.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> icon
[15:44] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: but it still needs someone to login to a desktop to work though right?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> s2 you don't need to login to wicd at every boot , it's a one time setup , then it autoconnects after that
[15:45] <BluesKaj> well, don't we all ?
[15:45] <tsimpson> so it just edits the /etc/network stuff (and others) directly?
[15:46] <the_madman> I've got shader support back, thanks :D
[15:47] <the_madman> Oop.
[15:47] <the_madman> >.<
[15:47] <s2r> BluesKaj sorry it seems I misread. So it's a one time setup and I'm done.
[15:48] <Guest80904> hallo
[15:48] <bradpitt> is there sth to edit 'main menu' in kubuntu? i'd like to change the shortcut for tweetdeck from graphics to internet.
[15:49] <Guest80904> i come from germany
[15:49] <tsimpson> bradpitt: right click the launcher button and choose "Menu Editor"
[15:50] <BluesKaj> s2r, yes a onetime setup
[15:51] <ari__> Hi everybody - Where can i find a world clock applet for my main panel?
[15:51] <s2r> BluesKaj ooops! it seems that it disconnects current established wifi links....
[15:53] <BluesKaj> s2r, restablish the link using the wpa passwd and settings and you should be fine
[15:54] <BluesKaj> it doesn't automatically get the link info , you have to edit the the preferences etc
[15:57] <s2r> BluesKaj The problem is that i'm not there right now. :D
[15:58] <okan_> hi every one
[15:58] <bradpitt> tsimpson : ok thanks
[16:01] <JuJuBee> What is the best way to sync a palm centro with Kubuntu?  I figured on using korganizer.
[16:03] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:07] <nikitis> Can you copy a volume group of drives bit for bit onto a single bigger drive?
[16:17] <dmitry_> 12223
[16:25] <aleboco> hi all. is it possible, using kmail filters, to stop outgoing e-mails to be sent, if infected? i don't seem to find an how-to on the web.
[16:28] <tavi> http://tavi-1985.blogspot.com/
[16:30] <Tm_T> tavi: er?
[16:32] <tavi> oh sorry
[16:32] <tavi> that's my blog
[16:32] <tavi> and i marked away
[16:34] <Tm_T> tavi: you don't need to paste your blog in help channels unless it's related to the channel
[16:34] <tavi> well yes
[16:34] <tavi> but i am on undernet too
[16:34] <Tm_T> tavi: that doesn't matter here (:
[16:34] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:34] <tavi> and my client doesnt have a option to set show blog only for undernet
[16:35] <altrortla> I've got a problem with xorg... few time ago I had a functionally version of Xorg.conf (something may be appened). Now I have checked xorg.conf because Blender won't start. Infact Xorg.conf was change loosing its setting. I have found an OLD xorg.conf that works not so well. Infact at login page I see all very big (driver still don't work) even if when I set password and start kubuntu driver seems to be OK. I remember that some tool give me the
[16:35] <altrortla> configuration to copy in xorg.conf. Some tips to have xorg.conf configured at start up (kubuntu 8.04 - Geoforge Fx5200)
[16:35] <Tm_T> tavi: then I recommend not to use it (:
[16:36] <tavi> sorry i like
[16:37] <altrortla> ?
[16:38] <Tm_T> altrortla: you mean nvidia-settings ?
[16:38] <altrortla> Tm_T: Yes, it is
[16:40] <altrortla> !nvidia
[16:41] <altrortla> !xorg
[17:06] <jesse2> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 and i've loaded up KDE.  For some reason, all GTK apps (Mozilla, Gimp, Pidgen, etc) look like Windows 95.  I have KCM-GTK installed, but when i set the widget style in the KDE system settings, it does nothing.
[17:06] <jesse2> Has anyone had this problem before? With GTK+ apps looking like Win95-era apps in KDE?
[17:08] <datenshi> jesse2: install gtk-chtheme. It's hardcore but works for sure :)
[17:08] <jesse2> Thanks! i'll give that a try
[17:09] <jesse2> datenshi: Should I uninstall kcm-gtk?
[17:10] <jesse2> datenshi! it works perfectly! thanks a ton
[17:10] <jesse2> ive been pulling my hair out all day on this one :) thanks again!
[17:12] <Roasted> Hey guys - How do I make firefox my default browser? I selected it in default applications in system settings but konquerer still comes up when I click on a link.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Roasted, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[17:32] <tsimpson> Roasted: you need to restart your KDE apps for the setting in system settings to take effect
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Roasted, but if you have other browsers configured to open from other apps you''l have to change those separately
[17:37] <aleboco> hi all. is it possible, using kmail filters, to stop outgoing e-mails to be sent, if infected? i don't seem to find an how-to on the web.
[17:41] <tzanger> good afternoon.  Sometimes, after waking up from suspend, networkmanager says it's disabled (through the tray applet) -- how do I enable it?  it's running, but it thinks its been disabled
[17:42] <tzanger> This is 9.10 if it makes any difference
[17:43] <Roasted> restart my KDE apps? Isnt restarting my computer enough?
[17:43] <Aviatore> Hi all
[17:45] <BluesKaj> time for my daily excursion ...bbl
[17:45] <Aviatore> Can anyone tell me where to get Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG driver for kubuntu karmic?
[18:03] <Delano-394980501> Is there any way I can set up something in gnome's "startup manager" and make it so it starts only in gnome and not KDE?
[18:05] <Axanon> how do I add a ppa:// style ppa link to my sources.list?
[18:08] <jacquesdupontd> Delano-394980501, you just say that it remembers your session when you restart and it will be directly set on gnome
[18:08] <jacquesdupontd> Axanon, i don't know at all
[18:09] <Delano-394980501> No
[18:09] <Delano-394980501> You misunderstand
[18:09] <Delano-394980501> I want to set up an application to run at startup
[18:10] <Delano-394980501> But, I want this application to only run in gnome, not when I boot into KDE
[18:11] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: you're using GNOME and KDE side by side?
[18:11] <Delano-394980501> Axanon, I boot into either/or
[18:12] <Axanon> let me reword that, are they using the same partition and you choose which one at the login screen?
[18:12] <Delano-394980501> Correct
[18:12] <Delano-394980501> I have basic ubuntu installed and added KDE afterwards
[18:13] <Axanon> what type of application is it?
[18:13] <Axanon> (that you are trying to run at startup)
[18:13] <Delano-394980501> Heh
[18:13] <Delano-394980501> Nautilus :op
[18:13] <Axanon> or not run lol
[18:13] <Axanon> oh
[18:14] <Axanon> in system settings -> default applications check file manager
[18:14] <Axanon> (do that in KDE)
[18:14] <BleSS> does kubuntu comes with upstart?
[18:14] <BleSS> is installed by default
[18:14] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: try setting that to dolphin (or whichever file manager you want for KDE)
[18:14] <Delano-394980501> So, eh, any suggestions?
[18:15] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: system settings -> default applications -> file Manager
[18:17] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: I can't guarantee that will keep nautilus your default file manager in GNOME
[18:18] <Axanon> how do I add a ppa:// style ppa link to my sources.list?
[18:24] <tranhuucuong> hello
[18:24] <datenshi> Axanon: add-apt-repository?
[18:25] <Axanon> is that an answer or another question :P
[18:25] <Delano-394980501> Hmmm
[18:25] <Delano-394980501> I think I prefer to use KDE exclusively
[18:25] <Delano-394980501> It seems way less buggy than gnome and xfce
[18:26] <Delano-394980501> How can I remove gnome as a desktop without removing the apps and packages and dependencies?
[18:26] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: there is not an easy way to really separate them
[18:27] <Delano-394980501> Is there a player for .swf files?
[18:28] <Axanon> you can try removing ubuntu-desktop
[18:28] <Delano-394980501> Axanon, are you -sure-?
[18:29] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: if you ever want to try new things with linux and don't want to damage your current setup, you can use VirtualBox
[18:29] <Delano-394980501> Please don't let me f-up my system
[18:29] <Axanon> Delano-394980501: removing ubuntu-desktop could remove things that you don't want removed. in all honesty if you want to use Kubuntu exclusively, a fresh install is the safest way
[18:30] <Delano-394980501> *sigh*
[18:31] <Threepwood> i got a problem with kdm (i think), is this the right place for it? (kdm.log http://pastebin.com/d3dd48317 , xorg0.log http://pastebin.com/d4b047286, xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/d1471cb3b)
[18:31] <Delano-394980501> It seems like the lifespan of any ubuntu installation is less than 6 months
[18:31] <emmanuel_> hello there. I'm coming back to ubuntu after years. I'm very impressed with the current look and feel :)
[18:31] <emmanuel_> at last a linux desktop that just works
[18:31] <Axanon> Threepwood: your first KDM log you posted, what does it say line 15
[18:32] <Delano-394980501> emmanuel_, don't get too excited... once you get after the initial novelty of the new icons and whatnot, it becomes a royal pain the butt, full of bugs
[18:33] <dillon> gee whiz Delano, thats really the spirit :(
[18:34] <Delano-394980501> Well, it's true
[18:34] <Delano-394980501> Linux isn't above criticism
[18:34] <emmanuel_> Delano-394980501: haha well that's possible. Anyway, so far the ux has been better than other desktops I tried.
[18:35] <emmanuel_> I have heard that kde is many times a playgound for developers and hence the quality of the apps is not always the best
[18:35] <emmanuel_> but, I don't know, I found a number of kde apps superior to, say, gnome ones
[18:35] <Delano-394980501> Hmmm, I disagree
[18:36] <Delano-394980501> I find KDE far more stable and developed
[18:36] <emmanuel_> for example, I conside k3b the best linux cd burning app out there
[18:36] <Delano-394980501> Ditto
[18:36] <Delano-394980501> It's certainly better than that brasero rubbish
[18:37] <emmanuel_> twitter clients are maybe not the best example to cite but the only usable twitter client I found for linux is a qt based one, choqok
[18:37] <Delano-394980501> One of Linux's greatest desktop weaknesses is its poor selection of audio players
[18:38] <Delano-394980501> Despite the praise fanboys heap upon them, Amarok, Banshee, Audacious, etc, are absolutely rubbish
[18:38] <Threepwood> Amarok (1.x) rocks ! :)
[18:38] <emmanuel_> well there you have a point. I found the best possible setup for playing audio is 1) a bash console plus mplayer :) 2) mpd with a decent frontend like ario
[18:38] <Delano-394980501> Bloated, in-your-face with support for nonsense like last.fm but lacking even basic audio enhancement functionality, like equalizers
[18:38] <emmanuel_> slightly leaning to 2)
[18:39] <emmanuel_> Delano-394980501: lack of audio equalizers sounds like the fault of alsa. Alsa does not make it easy with sounds effects
[18:39] <dillon> amarok is hands down the best media player i have ever used
[18:39] <Delano-394980501> emmanuel_, I've resorted to using AIMP (Russian freeware but closed source) via WINE
[18:40] <emmanuel_> dillon: does amarok support mpd ?
[18:40] <dillon> whats that
[18:40] <emmanuel_> Delano-394980501: wow you use wine for your media player? I thought that using mplayer for playing mp3 was overkill haha
[18:41] <emmanuel_> dillon: mpd is a music server for linux. It builds a database of all your mp3s and then uses different bacnkends for playing them (e.g. alsa). There are a lot of different frontends for selecting the themes and building playlists
[18:41] <Delano-394980501> emma, AIMP is compact, has a graphic equalizer (with a dozen presents), reverb, flanger and pitch/tempo bender; it's compact, skinnable, has an awesome search feature, etc
[18:42] <Delano-394980501> That's what an audio player *should* be
[18:42] <emmanuel_> dillon: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki
[18:42] <Delano-394980501> Not a screen-wide app that wants you to connect to last.fm
[18:42] <rjay> is 9.10 a netbook remix upgrade or a completely new ubuntu upgrade?
[18:42] <dillon> you know you can disable last.fm support in the setting
[18:43] <dillon> settings*
[18:43] <emmanuel_> well I always complain about lack of equalizer but when I get one I hardly ever use it. The feature that I really miss is volume normalization.
[18:43] <Delano-394980501> dillon, yes but that's not my point... my point is, the authors are severely misguided if their priority in an audio player is internet functionality over sound quality
[18:44] <dillon> i see your point
[18:44] <Delano-394980501> emmanuel_, that too
[18:44] <emmanuel_> rjay: 9;10 comes in various editions afaik, one of that versions is the netbook remix one.
[18:45] <Delano-394980501> On the opposite end of the scale is XMMS
[18:45] <Delano-394980501> It's more along the lines of what I like, but it seems really primitive these days
[18:45] <Delano-394980501> And before you say it, yes, I tried audacious :o)
[18:45] <Delano-394980501> It's... bad.
[18:45] <Delano-394980501> It crashes if you try to load a large directory.
[18:46] <emmanuel_> btw, anoter great kde app: quassel.
[18:47] <dillon> another one for the list, digiKam
[18:49] <emma> Delano-394980501: huh? What about AIMP?
[18:50] <tsimpson> emma: he was talking to emmanuel_, bad nick-completion I guess
[18:51] <emma> Oh okay :) no worries. It sounded interesting anyway :)
[18:51] <emmanuel_> emma: try quassel :)
[18:51] <emma> I thought maybe it's like a linux version of winamp. I think that would be cool.
[18:52] <Delano-394980501> emma, AIMP is better than winamp, imho
[18:53] <Axanon> emma: audacious is like winamp for linux
[18:53] <aleboco> hi all. is it possible, using kmail filters, to stop outgoing e-mails to be sent, if infected? i don't seem to find an how-to on the web.
[18:54] <BluesKaj> Delano-394980501, that's a windows amp and VLC does a very good job as an alternative open source media player , using a media player with wine is extreme
[18:54] <BluesKaj> amp=app
[18:55] <emma> Axanon: okay cool i will try it :)
[18:55] <Delano-394980501> BluesKaj, VLC doesn't have the functionality I want either
[18:55] <Delano-394980501> BluesKaj, and yeah, it is extreme, but when the native Linux choices are so shoddy, it's fine
[18:56] <emma> in my opinion linux is pretty rich in media player options at least.
[18:56] <emma> amarok is widely praised.
[18:56] <Delano-394980501> No, not really
[18:56] <BluesKaj> here we go with the functionality BS , that word is so overused and it means practically nothing
[18:56] <Delano-394980501> Amarok is bloated and primitive
[18:57] <Delano-394980501> BluesKaj, I'm sorry if you're offended by criticism of Linux apps, but they won't improve otherwise
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Delano-394980501, if you want totroll , go elsewhere
[18:57] <emma> Delano-394980501: well Amarok is open source so you could make it better instead of just complaining :)
[18:57] <Delano-394980501> Open source doesn't make an app better :op
[18:57] <Delano-394980501> But, yes
[18:57] <Delano-394980501> I'll suggest tips to the Amarok developers
[18:58] <BluesKaj> then join #amarok
[18:58] <Delano-394980501> BluesKaj, heh, not loving Linux apps makes me a troll?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:58]  * Delano-394980501 sighs
[18:58] <Delano-394980501> Really
[18:58] <Delano-394980501> I love Linux
[18:58] <emma> Delano-394980501: troll or not, this isn't really a kubuntu support issue is it?
[18:58] <Delano-394980501> But people's attitudes in the community need serious adjustment
[18:58] <Delano-394980501> emma, good point :o)
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Delano-394980501, when you promote windows apps in here it does
[18:59] <Delano-394980501> I'm not promoting the app, I'm promoting its functionality :o)
[18:59] <BluesKaj> functionality , man ppl like to use that word when they can't tell us what's really wrong :)
[19:00] <emma> Delano-394980501: the only thing i find somewhat irritating about you is that your nick is so ridiculously long. Were the first 394980500 Delanos already registered?
[19:00] <emma> If your nick was just Delano or something I would like you better. That's all I'm saying.
[19:00]  * tsimpson points to the topic and starts staring at people
[19:01] <Mamarok> ok, could we please all go back to the aim of this channel, please? Support only
[19:01] <jarl> This may not be the right place, but at least there is activity here:
[19:02] <jarl> Is there anybody here with previleges to unmark a bug duplicate. If so please have a look at bug 315437
[19:03] <emma> Ubuntu bug 286858 in exiv2 "Gwenview destroys EXIF info when  rotating images!" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/286858
[19:03] <greti> hi all
[19:03] <tsimpson> jarl: anyone can change that
[19:04] <jarl> emma: ... The point is that the bug reporter of bug 315437 does not agree (and neither do I) that it is a duplicate of bug 286858
[19:04] <jarl> tsimpson: Really? How?
[19:04] <Mamarok> jarl: get a launchpad account
[19:04] <tsimpson> jarl: click the little yellow pencil icon by "Duplicate of bug #286858"
[19:04] <tsimpson> you do have to be logged in to LP
[19:05] <jarl> tsimpson: Thanks, I just did...
[19:05] <tsimpson> the LP UI could do with some work, I know
[19:07] <BluesKaj> yeah it's a rather stark environment with few clues how to find the fixes
[19:08] <jarl> tsimpson: LP is not perfect (maybe even far from), but it is the best issue/bug tracker system I have ever used, and I have actually tried a couple.
[19:08] <tsimpson> jarl: I'm talking about the user interface, not LP itself
[19:08] <tsimpson> but, yeah
[19:13] <jarl> tsimpson: Regarding the LP UI, I agree, it renders horribly in konqueror.
[19:28] <corigo2> How can I upgrade my 9.04 install with KDE 4.3.3?
[19:31] <Roasted> so uh - how do I install themes in kde? :(
[19:32] <Tm_T> Roasted: which themes?
[19:33] <Roasted> Tm_T - I'm on kde-look.org. I can install themes through the appearance window within KDE but it only changes the theme on my start menu and my panel. I want the theme to be across EVERYTHING like I see in screenshots. I have no idea what to do from here.
[19:33] <Roasted> In Gnome I was used to the drag/drop of tar.gz... not sure what the process is in KDE
[19:34] <Tm_T> Roasted: hmm, it's not that easy, there's plasma themes, widget styles (changes appearance of applications) and there's window styles
[19:34] <Tm_T> Roasted: you have apparently already installed some plasma themes (:
[19:34] <Roasted> its not that easy? I thought that was the point of KDE :(
[19:34] <Tm_T> Roasted: well, there's no one big "theme" that covers everything, I'm afraid
[19:35] <Roasted> lets put it this way
[19:35] <Roasted> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Skulpture?content=86125
[19:35] <Roasted> I want that like you see in the top screen shot. How do I do it?
[19:36] <Tm_T> Roasted: that item (Skulpture 0.2.2
[19:36] <Tm_T> bah
[19:36] <Tm_T> Roasted: that item (Skulpture 0.2.2) is window decoration, aka window style
[19:36] <pingus> good night to all
[19:36] <Roasted> Okay, well I have the tar.gz of it. How can I apply it?
[19:36] <Tm_T> Roasted: it doesn't change anything else than the window borders
[19:37] <Tm_T> Roasted: untar it, inside of it should be README file
[19:37] <Roasted> I'm failing to understand what's the point of themes then...
[19:37] <datenshi> Roasted: sudo apt-get install kde-style-skulpture kwin-style-skulpture
[19:37] <pingus> themes for window decorstor you mean?
[19:37] <Roasted> themes in general.
[19:37] <Tm_T> datenshi: he, I knew it's there somewhere already
[19:37] <Roasted> I don't mean to be all negative but in gnome... I drag... and drop... bam. Done. Over. Installed. Applied.
[19:37] <pingus> its like skins under Windows
[19:37] <corigo2> How can I upgrade my 9.04 install to KDE 4.3.3?
[19:38] <Roasted> I'm loving KDE but something simple like this I didn't expect to be a headache.
[19:38] <Tm_T> Roasted: yup, it's totally different thing in KDE
[19:38] <Roasted> but KDE is easy, right?
[19:39] <pingus> quite easy
[19:39] <Roasted> okay, so.... :) ... lets see how we can install themes then like in that screenshot :)
[19:39] <tsimpson> themes are separate because you have have one preference for window decorations, one for plasma style, one for icons, etc
[19:39] <tsimpson> mix and match
[19:40] <Tm_T> tsimpson: and widget & window styles are binary stuff, not just bitmaps
[19:40] <Roasted> okay, that's fine. But I dont even know how to get this hizzy installed to begin mix and matching
[19:40] <Tm_T> 2137.25 < datenshi> Roasted: sudo apt-get install kde-style-skulpture kwin-style-skulpture
[19:40] <Roasted> wow I cant even figure uot how to unzip this tarball. quick extract is grayed out.
[19:40] <tsimpson> there is deKorator that basically lets you just give it a load of pixmaps
[19:41] <Roasted> Tm_T okay so I install that, but what if I don't want that theme? What if I want to install another on KDE Look? Is there another crazy command like that to install that one too?
[19:41] <Roasted> Tm_T the readme only has basic info about the project in it, fyi
[19:42] <Tm_T> Roasted: hmm, INSTALL file then?
[19:42] <Roasted> ooo yeah I see it
[19:42] <Roasted> question
[19:42] <Roasted> in Gnome I found an add-on package in synaptic which, whenever Ir ight clicked a file, would allow me to run it as administrator (root) without having to go to the GUI
[19:42] <Tm_T> Roasted: anyway, that whacky command mentioned above is to install two packages, you can use kpackagekit for it too
[19:42] <Roasted> is there something like that in dolphin?
[19:43] <Roasted> terminal*******************
[19:43] <Roasted> not gUI
[19:43] <tsimpson> use kpackagekit then
[19:43] <tsimpson> kmenu -> System -> KPackageKit (Software Management)
[19:43] <Roasted> once I install this theme - can I delete the unzipped folder? Or does it need the folder to exist o work?
[19:44] <Roasted> install failed - need CMake 2.4 or newer and C++ compiler 4.1 or newer.
[19:44] <Tm_T> Roasted: if you install it from repositories, using kpackagekit that is, you don't need that package from site at all in firstplace
[19:44] <Roasted> Tm_T - so theres themes in the repos?
[19:44] <Tm_T> Roasted: there is
[19:45] <Roasted> what - really?
[19:45] <Roasted> okay - installed
[19:45] <Roasted> now to apply them...
[19:45] <Roasted> so I have to apply them in different pieces?
[19:46] <Tm_T> yes
[19:46] <Roasted> well, I got the theme, but everything is still sky blue in color... I dont have the darkish gray theme going on
[19:46] <Roasted> cancel that
[19:47] <Roasted> fixed
[19:47] <Roasted> man there are a lot of pieces to it
[19:47] <Roasted> so wait, this is still like gnome though. In gnome I could take pieces of each theme and customize them into 1
[19:48] <Roasted> wait I get itttttttttttt. When you apply the theme through the desktop settings (right click desktop - appearance settings - select theme) I ONLY apply the core theme and not the other gadets around it
[19:49] <mostafa_> hey there how can I set a shortcut key on my terminal?
[19:51] <corigo2> How can I upgrade my 9.04 install to KDE 4.3.3?
[19:52] <BlouBlou> mostafa_: I have got the same question
[19:52] <gael> Hello
[19:52] <BlouBlou> gael: hi :)
[19:53] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: hey bro did you get any result bro?
[19:53] <gael> hi all french people here?
[19:53] <BlouBlou> !fr | gael
[19:53] <BlouBlou> mostafa_: no, I am trying to resolve it
[19:54] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: in 9.10 beta we have sth to set that in system settings
[19:54] <mostafa_> but when I upgrade to 9.10 final they is no such thing
[19:54] <mostafa_> :(
[19:55] <BlouBlou> mostafa_: I found :), go to System preferences > keyboard and mouse
[19:55] <mostafa_> ok then?
[19:56] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: then?
[19:57] <BlouBlou> mostafa_: (my kubuntu is in spanish, maybe is different in yours), the 4º tab (and sorry for my english :P)
[19:57] <mostafa_> no problem bro ok then?
[19:57] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: then?
[19:58] <BlouBlou> you need click in "fast access", and select "custom"
[19:59] <BlouBlou> the, when you click there, you'll need to select the key of shorcut
[19:59] <BlouBlou> shortcut*
[20:00] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: excuse me bro where is "fast access?"
[20:00] <BlouBlou> haha (I translated it from my spanish's kubuntu), the 2º tab
[20:03] <jad> My intel card drivers hard lock up the computer
[20:03] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: I opened System Settings --> General Tab --> keyboard and mouse --> Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:03] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: is this correct?
[20:04] <BlouBlou> yep :)
[20:04] <mostafa_> BlouBlou: Ok then where should go?
[20:05] <BlouBlou> when you selected all, apply changes, and it should be done
[20:18] <BluesKaj> !intel | jad
[20:20] <juan__> o
[20:22] <jad> BluesKaj: same is true for 9.10 I thought that got worked out for 9.10 ?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> jad, dunno for sure , intel graphics support is iffy on jaunty and karmic
[20:25] <jad> Yeah they were doing a major rewrite for those periods
[20:25] <jad>  I thought that it was done for 9.10
[20:26] <BluesKaj> you might check over at #ubuntu , there seem to be a few more ative supporters there today
[20:26] <jad> unfortunately I have committed a computer to 9.10 for someone and the Intel card a) doesn't support compositing for any period of time withuot explosions but more annoyingly b) randomly X will lock up so hard that even killing it doesn't bring the system to a working state. Magic keys are solution (in place of a wizard!)
[20:28] <BluesKaj> jad , which intel car?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> card?
[20:28] <jad> BluesKaj:  82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[20:28] <jad> Appaerently a known detractor of all things Linux
[20:35] <BluesKaj> jad, check this out http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/155339-ubuntu-9-10-freezing-up-2.html
[20:36] <BluesKaj> looks like the vesa driver is the temp fix
[20:36] <dtchen> an amazing number of bug reports are against pulseaudio but are really graphics drivers
[20:37] <dtchen> it thrills me to no end :/
[20:41] <barnix> hi
[20:43] <jad> BluesKaj: Thanks
[20:43] <jad> barnix: hi
[20:43] <jad> dtchen: X sucks
[20:48] <BluesKaj> BBL , think I'll relax with the laptop for bit
[20:49] <jad> I sure hope that he doesn't mean how taht came across
[20:50] <dtchen> jad: X itself isn't bad. Drivers, of course, are pretty shoddy all 'round'
[20:51] <dtchen> I deal with craptastic hardware and software on a daily basis
[20:53] <jad> dtchen: X isn't great either :)
[20:57] <nick_h> is there a keyboard shortcut that puts the cursor in Konqueror's address bar and doesn't delete the current URL?
[20:58] <tsimpson> nick_h: F6
[20:59] <nick_h> tsimpson: i love you
[20:59] <nick_h> thanks, mate
[20:59]  * tsimpson feels the love
[20:59] <genii> !cookie
[20:59] <contrast> nick_h: You might have a look through Settings -> Configure Shortcuts for future reference. :)
[21:01] <nick_h> contrast: i've looked there, but don't see the appropriate shortcut. when i assign F6 to another shortcut, the warning "The 'F6' key combination is already used by the Location Bar action" appears. however, "Location Bar" isn't listed in the keyboard shortcuts window
[21:02] <nick_h> the only entry that's similar is "Clear Location Bar", which is CTRL+L
[21:06] <Roasted> Hey guys - Is there a widget I can get that shows mem usage?
[21:06] <nick_h> Roasted: a widget, or a plasmoid?
[21:06] <contrast> nick_h: Which version of KDE are you using?
[21:06] <Roasted> nick_h - lol, actually, maybe you can help me out here quick in that regard... I'm kind of new to KDE - what is the difference between a widget and plasmoid?
[21:07] <nick_h> contrast: 4.2.2
[21:07] <nick_h> Roasted: which version of KDE are you using? you can find this out by clicking this in any KDE app: Help > About KDE
[21:07] <Roasted> 4.2.2
[21:07] <danub> hey all, how can I make my user able to shutdown/restart the computer? i dont have those options remotely
[21:07] <Roasted> jaunty 9.04 64 bit
[21:07] <danub> i don't know if i have them locally though
[21:08] <contrast> nick_h: Ahh okay. I guess they've cleared that up in 4.3.3.
[21:08] <Roasted> danub - through gui or terminal?
[21:08] <nick_h> Roasted: you want plasmoids
[21:08] <nick_h> contrast: ah. thanks
[21:08] <danub> both
[21:08] <Roasted> danub - well you can always run sudo poweroff to shutdown or sudo reboot to reboot in terminal.
[21:08] <danub> i dont have access to run init ? and I dont have the shutdown restart options in the gui
[21:08] <Roasted> init is typically to restart processes
[21:09] <Roasted> I reboot/shutdown in term all the time withotu init, just poweroff or reboot
[21:09] <Roasted> with sudo, of course
[21:09] <danub> Roasted, I dont want to have to sudo to shutdown, how do I change the perms to allow my user to do that
[21:09] <Roasted> nick_h - whats the name of that curved bean shape gizmo? is that the plasmoid?
[21:09] <nick_h> Roasted: actually, i think "widget" and "plasmoid" are synonymous
[21:09] <nick_h> Roasted: find the "cashew" (http://is.gd/54g9Z) on your desktop, and click on it. it's usually in the top-right corner
[21:09] <Roasted> danub - I guess its worth a shot to try poweroff without sudo to see if that works...
[21:09] <nick_h> Roasted: next, click "Add ..."
[21:09] <Roasted> nick_h - m ine is in the lower right - I moved it.
[21:09] <danub> my user is in root adm dialout cdrom sudo plugdev lpadmin admin danub sambashare
[21:10] <Roasted> if your user is in root perhaps he can launch the command w/o sudo
[21:10] <danub> but i want the option to reboot in the gui also
[21:10] <Roasted> give it a shot, I'm not sure offhand
[21:10] <Roasted> nick_h - I dont see add...
[21:10] <nick_h> danub: one sec
[21:10] <danub> i cant do it without sudo
[21:10] <danub> not sure why though ::shrugs::
[21:10] <Roasted> nick_h - wait, add widgets. Had to unlock them first.
[21:10] <nick_h> Roasted: is the option "Unlock widgets" there?
[21:10] <nick_h> Roasted: there you go
[21:11] <nick_h> Roasted: try the System Monitor widgets/applets/whatever they're called. if those don't satisfy your needs, search google
[21:11] <danub> i dont want to have to log in as root all the time just to get stuff done and if I can't even reboot without being root, I'm going to say to hell with good-form and just root it up
[21:12] <tsimpson> Roasted: install plasma-widgets-addons and add the "System Load Viewer" to the panel, it shows the CPU/RAM/Swap usage in a bar graph :)
[21:12] <nick_h> danub: go to KDE > System Settings > Advanced tab > Login Manager
[21:12] <Roasted> nick_h - yeah, Im using system monitor now. I can monitor network activity, disk space, proc activity, etc. But I was hoping for RAM too.
[21:12] <Roasted> tsimpson - is system load viewer something that will appear in add widgets after I install plasma-widgets-addons?
[21:12] <nick_h> danub: next, go to the Shutdown tab, and configure it to suit your needs
[21:12] <tsimpson> Roasted: yes
[21:13] <Roasted> thanks, Ill try that
[21:13] <danub> ahh thank you
[21:13] <nick_h> danub: yw
[21:13] <Roasted> oh also - is there an option to add a quick launch key to launch terminal? I dont recall seeing it in global kwin settings.
[21:13] <nick_h> ta ta, folks!
[21:13] <tsimpson> Roasted: it looks like this: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2241/snap0.jpg
[21:13] <nick_h> Roasted: what is a "quick launch key"?
[21:14] <Roasted> nick_h - well in gnome I have F3 to launch terminal. I hit F3 and it launches. F4 for Firefox, F7 for Calculator, F8 for home dir, etc. I'd like to get them in KDE too since I plan to switch to KDE full time.
[21:14] <Roasted> tsimpson - didn't find the package in repos.
[21:14] <tsimpson> Roasted: you can set one from right clicking the kmenu and choosing "Menu Editor", going to System -> Konsole, go to the advanced tab and choose the shortcut
[21:14] <Roasted> E: Couldn't find package plasma-widgets-addons
[21:15] <nick_h> Roasted: go to: KDE > System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[21:15] <nick_h> actually, wait a sec..
[21:16] <Roasted> I was there. I don't recall seeing term, web browser, home dir, etc as options, nick_h
[21:16] <nick_h> Roasted: go to: KDE > System Settings > Input Actions
[21:17] <nick_h> Roasted: right-click in the empty space above the "Help", "Defaults", "Reset" buttons, and select "New Group"
[21:17] <Lynceus> Roasted: the easiest way is to follow tsimpsonś tipp
[21:17] <nick_h> ah yeah, that's probably easier
[21:17] <tsimpson> Roasted: try the package "kdeplasma-addons"
[21:18] <nick_h> later guys
[21:19] <Roasted> tsimpson - bingo
[21:19] <Roasted> another question
[21:19] <Roasted> is there a way so when I hit the K menu that it drops down further than it does? Can Ic usotmize the size?
[21:19] <tsimpson> not sure if it's in that version though
[21:20] <Roasted> it came up at 4.2.2, which is what Im running
[21:20] <Roasted> did it auto detect my kde version? Or is that all thats in the repos?
[21:20] <tsimpson> that's what's in the repos for jaunty
[21:21] <Roasted> ah okay
[21:22] <Roasted> tsimpson - not seeing system load viewer under add widgets...
[21:24] <tsimpson> it may be system status
[21:24] <tsimpson> Roasted: it has a 3 row bar-graph icon
[21:25] <Roasted> nadda... I got nothing like that
[21:25] <Erthe> Hey folks.
[21:25] <Roasted> erthe!
[21:26] <contrast> Roasted: Which release of Kubuntu are you using?
[21:26] <Roasted> 9.04 64 bit
[21:27] <contrast> Roasted: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa - You may want to add that repository. There are a bunch of extra Plasma widgets in there.
[21:27] <bib_22> hi, can sombody help me with my a prob after the kubuntu update to 9.10?
[21:27] <Roasted> gah
[21:27] <Erthe> How's the desktop lookin' Roasted?
[21:27] <Roasted> when I try to open that link, it says it cant find firefox, etc
[21:27] <Roasted> Erthe - pretty good.
[21:27] <bib_22> i got the following error: kernel: [  473.711367] mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,4000000 found
[21:27] <Roasted> just trying to get a memory (RAM) usage widget on the desktop
[21:28] <Roasted> proving to be harder than I expected tho :P
[21:28] <contrast> Roasted: Do you have Firefox installed?
[21:28] <Roasted> contrast - yup
[21:28] <Roasted> its my primary browser
[21:28] <Roasted> I even have it open. Im on newegg.com on my primary screen with it
[21:28] <Erthe> System Monitor - RAM is what I use.
[21:29] <contrast> Roasted: Do you have plasma-widgets-addons installed?
[21:29] <Roasted> kdeplasma-addons
[21:29] <Roasted> I have installed
[21:29] <contrast> Erm, sorry. Different name in Karmic, I guess.
[21:30] <Erthe> Nope.
[21:30] <Erthe> plasma-widgets-addons is a package in Jaunty
[21:30] <Erthe> I have it installed.
[21:30] <Roasted> not found here
[21:30] <Roasted> did you add a new repo?
[21:30] <Erthe> I have a few additional repos ya.
[21:30] <Erthe> Lemme see what I've got.
[21:31] <tsimpson> must only be part of KDE 4.3.x
[21:31] <Roasted> E: Couldn't find package plasma-widgets-addons
[21:31] <Roasted> yeah, Im 4.2.2
[21:32] <Erthe> Roasted: http://pastebin.ca/1688669
[21:32] <tsimpson> why don't up upgrade to karmic? out of interest
[21:32] <Roasted> tsimpson - because karmic hates my computer
[21:32] <Roasted> it doesnt detect my hard drives properly
[21:32] <Roasted> a problem many other people have
[21:32] <Roasted> unfortunately :(
[21:33] <zerq> having a hell of a time getting wifi to work since i installed kubuntu.. networks that just work in windows time out on the DHCP stage
[21:33] <zerq> I did have it working on one network, at home
[21:33] <tsimpson> Roasted: you can get 4.3.2 from kubuntu-ppa/backports :)
[21:33] <Roasted> tsimpson - already tried that
[21:33] <Roasted> broke my system
[21:33] <Roasted> reinstalled kubuntu last night at 3 am
[21:34] <Roasted> well it didnt BREAK it, but every time I would right click something, KDE crashed. :(
[21:34] <tsimpson> I ran 4.3.x fine from there before karmic
[21:34] <Erthe> Check those sources Roasted, I'm on 4.3.2 using those sources.
[21:34] <Roasted> *shrug* I dont know what to tell ya man, it just didtn work for me, tried it 3 times with 3 different guides
[21:34] <zerq> http://pastebay.com/72681 that make sense to any wifi heads?
[21:35] <Roasted> erthe none of these repos would be why Ic ant find the plasma addons would it?
[21:35] <zerq> I know the driver works, i've connected before to -one- network.. but any other network it seems to time out on the dhcp stage in linux, yet works perfectly in windows
[21:35] <bib_22> Does someone have an idea what prob my KDE have. After the update to 9.10 i cant login to my X. It logs me off automatically. In the logs i got
[21:35] <bib_22> mtrr: no MTRR for f0000000,4000000 found
[21:35] <bib_22> what coult it be?
[21:35] <Erthe> Roasted: It's possible.  I have the package.
[21:35] <Erthe> (Installed)
[21:35] <Roasted> but youre also on 4.3.2
[21:35] <contrast> zerq: You might try the Gtk frontend to NetworkManager - sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome; killall -15 knetworkmanager; nm-applet &
[21:35] <Roasted> Im on 4.2.2
[21:36] <Erthe> I'm on 4.3.2
[21:36] <contrast> zerq: I've generally had better luck with it than the KDE one, sadly. : \
[21:36] <Erthe> Try using that as your sources.list file in /etc/apt
[21:36] <Erthe> Update your sources and try again.
[21:36] <zerq> contrast: hmm.. yeah I'm not impressed with the KDE one so far, but I like other stuff about KDE.. :/
[21:36] <Erthe> (Or update to KDE 4.3.2 first actually)
[21:36] <zerq> contrast: I'll give that a try
[21:36] <Roasted> erthe - I REALLY dont wnat to have to reinstall Kubuntu though :(
[21:37] <Roasted> and theres no memory feature in system monitor in the widgets
[21:37] <Roasted> just temp/proc/hdd/network/hardware info
[21:38] <Erthe> http://www.kubuntu.org/new/kde-4.3.2
[21:38] <Roasted> GAH
[21:38] <Roasted> what is this cannot open firefox BS
[21:38] <Erthe> I'll bbiab, need to go meet with my lawyer.
[21:38] <contrast> zerq: Same here. KDE's package management apps pale in comparison to GNOME's as well. Fortunately, you can swap them out without much hassle.
[21:38] <contrast> !wfm
[21:39] <Roasted> so I just added the repo for the 4.3.2 backports - do I just apt-get update/upgrade?
[21:40] <contrast> Roasted: Correct.
[21:40] <tsimpson> yeah, you just update the system normally
[21:40] <tsimpson> but you probably want to make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[21:40] <Roasted> no pubkey, GPG error
[21:41] <Roasted> just like last time...
[21:41] <tsimpson> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq/PPA-keys
[21:42] <Roasted> k, I got them and ran apt-get update. No errors.
[21:42] <Roasted> Now what - upgrade, or just reboot?
[21:42] <tsimpson> I just do "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A"
[21:42] <tsimpson> then update and logout/in again
[21:43] <Roasted> k, brb
[21:43] <Roasted> thanks
[21:43] <Roasted> logged out and back in - still 4.2.2
[21:43] <Roasted> reboot or apt-get upgrade required?
[21:45] <tsimpson> Roasted: add the PPA, then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:45] <Roasted> oh, okay, I thought I just needed to add the ppa and update
[21:45] <tsimpson> then logout/in and you should be in 4.3.2
[21:45] <Roasted> k, running now
[21:45] <tsimpson> "update" just updates the package list, nothing else
[21:45] <Roasted> I appreciate it bro
[21:45] <Roasted> hey would ya happen to know whats up with my firefox thing?
[21:46] <tsimpson> what "firefox thing"?
[21:46] <Roasted> well earlier you and erthe were posting links to me
[21:46] <Roasted> wait...
[21:46] <Roasted> hold that htought...
[21:46] <Roasted> www.pastebin.com
[21:46] <Roasted> grrrr
[21:47] <Roasted> whenever I'd right cl ick a link and hit open in web borwser, it would error out and say cannot find firefox - yet Id be actively using firefox just fine at the time.
[21:47] <Roasted> cancel that - just fixed it. :)
[21:48] <Roasted> do you know if its possible to make my K menu bigger?
[21:49] <Alarm> hello i got a few simple questions. the first one is : how do i make the windows not to go behind the taskbar ? everytime i maximize a window it is going behind the taskbar as well and i cant find the setting the taskbar not to cover the windows
[21:49] <tsimpson> Roasted: if you mean kickoff you can resize it like a window, click on the edge and drag to resize
[21:50] <Roasted> my gosh I feel stupid now
[21:50] <Roasted> thanks bro :P
[21:50] <Roasted> can I change the K icon, perhaps?
[21:51] <tsimpson> not without renaming the icon in the filesystem and replacing it
[21:51] <Roasted> shucks :(
[21:51] <Roasted> the punisher skull would look pretty neato right there
[21:52] <tsimpson> Alarm: right click the panel -> panel options -> panel settings -> more settings
[21:52] <Alarm> found :)
[21:52] <Alarm> yeap : always visible
[21:53] <Alarm> second question is why applications menus (like firefox , xchat) have a bigger font than the kde windows (like dolphin) ?
[21:54] <tsimpson> because GTK is evil
[21:55] <tsimpson> Alarm: you can change that from System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance
[21:55] <tsimpson> you probably want to choose a specific font, as GTK seems to add 10px to them...
[21:55] <Tm_T> Alarm: because gtk-apps (including whole gnome) doesn't follow your dpi at all
[21:55] <Alarm> i did, use KDE font in GTK applications (and restarted) but still the fonts seem bigger
[21:56] <tsimpson> like I said, GTK is evil
[21:56] <Alarm> :)
[22:00] <Reformer81> When using photorec, is it possible to specify a minimum filesize to recover?
[22:00] <zerq> oh man don't get me started on the font size snafu between GTK and KDE.. I installed kubuntu over top of normal ubuntu and now GNOME desktop fonts are completely fubar
[22:00] <zerq> half the fonts are gigantic, the rest are unreadably tiny
[22:01] <Roasted> zerq - what apps are unreadably tiny?
[22:01] <Roasted> thunderbird? xchat?
[22:01] <zerq> anything GTK based
[22:01] <Roasted> yeah
[22:01] <Roasted> try this
[22:01] <Roasted> uhhh lemme think
[22:01] <Roasted> I just did a fix for that
[22:02] <Roasted> system settings - appearance - fonts - force fonts dpi - 96 dpi
[22:02] <zerq> Roasted: cool, will try that
[22:02] <Roasted> I just got hooked on kde like 3 nights ago, fricken loving it, yet thunderbird and xchat were so damn small... that fixed it
[22:02] <Roasted> just gotta close the apps and reopen after you do that
[22:03] <Roasted> is kino gtk based? Or is that a kde app?
[22:04] <Roasted> nevermind - google says its gtk
[22:04] <Roasted> whats a good kde video editing app?
[22:07] <julien_> salut :)
[22:09] <tom_> Roasted what aout "videocut" or "Avidemux"
[22:09] <tom_> *about
[22:10] <julien_> francais ?
[22:10] <tsimpson> !fr | julien_
[22:16] <julien_> serveur francais ?
[22:17] <BluesKaj> julien_, #ubuntu-fr
[22:17] <julien_> merci ^
[22:17] <julien_> :)
[22:18] <Reformer81> When using photorec, is it possible to specify a minimum filesize to recover?
[22:25] <jorge_> hola
[22:25] <Roasted> does anybody have the latest virtualbox deb from the web site running on their kubuntu jaunty system?
[22:25] <jorge_> me entienden
[22:25] <jorge_> hola
[22:40] <lovre> hi all.
[22:41] <lovre> im trying to use rssnow plasmoid, and it works for reading feeds, but when i click on it instead of opening the url in Firefox, it opens an empty file in Kate... Why is this? The RSS extension is .asp and i have set file associations for .asp to firefox. Dont know what else to try...
[22:43] <zen-sensei> how do you completely uninstall all of kde?
[22:51] <lovre> zen-sensei: you remove kubuntu-desktop?
[22:52] <zen-sensei> lovre, that just removes a .deb file
[22:52] <lovre> zen-sensei: you want to remove all aps?
[22:52] <zen-sensei> yes, please
[22:54] <lovre> zen-sensei: ckeck this out: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2755/ubuntu_7_10_how_to_uninstall_kde/
[22:55] <zen-sensei> lovre, thanks
[22:55] <lovre> !removekde | zen-sensei
[22:55] <lovre> zen-sensei: no problem
[23:10] <antonio_> wenas
[23:42] <Benkinooby> hi, how can i recover from a app. that "freezes" my whole os? is there something like "ctrl+alt+del" for kubuntu?
[23:43] <Benkinooby> usually i change to another termina (ctrl+alt+f2) and reboot