[00:00] <pleia2> s/cool/nerdy
[00:00] <pleia2> ;)
[00:01]  * _marx_ spousal unit says [forcefully] "move away from the computer"
[00:25] <doctormo> I don't see quit messages, what did it say?
[00:26] <_marx_>  "cd ~/real-life"
[00:28] <doctormo> heh
[01:08] <cprofitt> pleia2: what is a 'driver' in reference to an Ubuntu project?
[01:09] <pleia2> cprofitt: context?
[01:10] <pleia2> oh, user days
[01:10] <pleia2> "DRIVER: If someone is coordinating this objective and helping those involved to deliver on their actions, list that person here (optional)."
[01:10] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam
[01:10] <cprofitt> got it...
[01:10] <cprofitt> had not heard that term listed afore
[01:10] <cprofitt> I added some suggested classes...
[01:10] <pleia2> all based on: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/11/10/creating-a-roadmap-for-more-successful-teams/
[01:11] <cprofitt> when will the dates be set?
[01:11] <pleia2> we used this roadmap format for a whole bunch of UDS things
[01:11] <cprofitt> Jono is a smart man...
[01:11] <pleia2> hopefully at the BT meeting on Tuesday
[01:11] <pleia2> Jan 23rd is looking to be the target though
[01:11] <cprofitt> I agreed with most of what he said... documenting the commitments is one of the areas we still need to work on and improve
[01:12] <cprofitt> I bookmarked that page when it first passed me on the twitterverse
[01:12] <cprofitt> 23rd...
[01:12] <cprofitt> ooh... a Saturday...
[01:13] <pleia2> yeah :)
[01:13] <cprofitt> I might be able to do a class -- just have to see how our tz setup goes
[01:13] <pleia2> I was thinking 12-22 UTC
[01:13] <cprofitt> I am in need of a desktop bookshelf -- where does one find those?
[01:13] <cprofitt> 22 UTC = 5pm EST
[01:13] <pleia2> desktop bookshelf?
[01:14] <cprofitt> yeah... a bookshelf that sets on your desk...
[01:14] <cprofitt> not sure what to call them..
[01:14] <pleia2> ah
[01:14] <cprofitt> I have one and it is too small
[01:14]  * pleia2 calls it a "pile" :)
[01:14] <cprofitt> I have 10+ books I need for reference that do not fit in my current setup
[01:15] <_marx_> cprofitt: i'm a carpenter, where are you, perhaps I could make you one
[01:17]  * _marx_ knows it's shocking, carpenter using ubuntu, but true
[01:18] <cprofitt> pleia2: it looks like this -- http://i45.tinypic.com/2utncwi.jpg
[01:19] <doctormo> heey cprofitt
[01:19] <cprofitt> hey doctormo
[01:19] <cprofitt> I am trying to re-org my space
[01:20] <cprofitt> I have too many books...
[01:20] <pleia2> cprofitt: ah, nice... yeah
[01:20] <_marx_> hm, yep way too small
[01:21] <cprofitt> _marx_: got any suggestions?
[01:22] <_marx_> well what's below what you have in that photo?
[01:22] <cprofitt> a wall... then my desk and a filing cabinet
[01:22] <_marx_> ok
[01:22] <_marx_> hm
[01:22] <cprofitt> I have another bookshelf -- but it is out of reach
[01:23] <cprofitt> I keep my non-current books there
[01:23] <_marx_> and you don't have a copy of "Running Linux"
[01:23]  * _marx_ measures one he built last year...
[01:24] <cprofitt> ... build...
[01:24] <cprofitt> I could do that...
[01:24] <cprofitt> if I could find another one of those I would be good too... but I can't find anything like it anymore
[01:24] <_marx_> ah okay
[01:26] <cprofitt> I have but one corner of my house... kids and wife have the remainder... so I have to organize effectively
[01:28] <_marx_> k: 12 3/4" deep x 2' wide x 31" tall: 3 shelves with the upper one spaced to just hold cd's
[01:29] <cprofitt> ooh... that would be nice... I could skip the top shelf or make it for something else... all my CDs are .flac now
[01:29] <_marx_> or go a little taller
[01:29] <cprofitt> can not go too tall... the Tick needs to be seen
[01:30] <_marx_> i used good grade 3/4 plywood, actually leftover stain grade
[01:31] <cprofitt> nice
[01:32] <_marx_> sitting on the floor? not on top of a desk?
[01:35] <cprofitt> sigh -- I am throwing out memory...
[01:35] <cprofitt> ooh... keep this though... PC4200 512MB laptop ram
[01:36]  * _marx_ just recycled sparc5 and sparc20 hardware
[01:38] <_marx_> 20" monitor weighed close to 50 pounds
[01:40] <cprofitt> ooh... nice.
[01:40] <cprofitt> I always wanted a sparc
[01:41] <_marx_> ah these were ancient dude, good learning machines 7-8 year ago but _very old now
[01:41] <cprofitt> true... but you had them
[01:42] <cprofitt> that is what counted
[01:42] <_marx_> debian worked best on them :-)
[01:43] <_marx_> ubuntu wasn't around back then
[01:56] <pleia2> I have an ultra10 as my firewall <3
[02:47] <_marx_> ultra10 firewall! cool use of old hardware
[02:48] <pleia2> _marx_: yeah, it's running Debian and I tossed a couple pci nics in it
[02:48] <pleia2> runs like a tank :)
[03:01] <_marx_> sun hardware in my experience has been just rock solid well designed; the clips that held the hd's in the old pizza box sparcs beat anything out there in the mid '90's
[03:46] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I'm finally back and kicking ;)
[03:46] <nigel_nb> will work on the bzr module today
[05:06] <doctormo> Ah damn I missed nigel
[06:51] <doctormo> pleia2: Hey are you still up?
[11:41] <FFEMTcJ> mornin
[22:12] <FFEMTcJ> Anyone need a google wave invite?