[00:00] <soreau> linux: The problem is that flash sucks
[00:00] <Al2O3> my PowerMac 17" G4 1.5 ghz (2 gig ram) is about 5 years old.
[00:00] <hipitihop> Al2O3, well please check and if PPC is supported then the easiest test is to downlaod the Desktop ISO, burn it to CD, and boot from that... it won't touch your current setup and you can see how it runs
[00:00] <Al2O3> neat, thanks for the advice.
[00:00] <Fretegi_2> anyone with x1200 video issues with 9,10?
[00:00] <linux> it stopped again for a second
[00:00] <Al2O3> time to to just that.
[00:00] <linux> jeezzzzzzzzzzz
[00:00] <centHOGG> black friday
[00:00] <chemjeff> mneptok, does it matter that on the about:plugins page the Shockwave Flash filename is listed as npwrapper.libflashplayer.so and not libflashplayer.so ?
[00:00] <kavurt> khensthoth: i think i don't
[00:00] <zetheroo> in Karmic I seem to be having issues with all the PPA's that I am using ... their speeds are very unstable ....
[00:00] <Al2O3> today is brown (turd) wed.
[00:00] <hipitihop> Al2O3, then if you like just choose the install option and it will do the rest
[00:00] <Cyanure> hi guys
[00:00] <Al2O3> tomorrow is baby shit green day
[00:00] <ShapeShifter499> mneptok: I mean the modules
[00:01] <Al2O3> and of course friday is black dried out capitalistic turd friday.
[00:01] <khensthoth> kavurt: Try typing in the terminal sudo apt-get install apturl-common
[00:01] <linux> Is there any linux/compiz configs that have a stable flash
[00:01] <trism> Rods_Tiger: simplest is from the repo, but the better way is to download and install rubygems and then install rails as a gem...it is really not hard. You download rubygems and type sudo ruby setup.rb
[00:01] <Cyanure> i have problemes with the upgrade from .04 to .10
[00:01] <Wipster> does anyone know how to make the Allow access to keyring program remember that I want it to always allow a program?
[00:01] <subby83> linux: why do you think its an compiz issue?
[00:01] <Cyanure> most packet has depencies issues and won't upgrade
[00:01] <Rods_Tiger> trism - as easy as that? I'll try it then
[00:01] <trism> Rods_Tiger: because you can't update the rubygems in the repo, and occasionally new gems require a new rubygems
[00:01] <Al2O3> hipitihop: if it runs, I will pull the 320 gig PATA out of it, put in seperate 2.5" case (fw400), and then put the 60 gig back in it (that was pulled), install and go.
[00:02] <progesterone> question: Is there any Microsoft Paint equivalent program on Ubuntu?
[00:02] <progesterone> progesterone GIMP is too advanced for some cases.
[00:02] <manug> progesterone, try kolourpaint
[00:02] <kavurt> khensthoth: apturl-common has been already installed
[00:02] <linux> subby83: I mean I want to use compiz. I'm looking for a linux distro that has perfect flash so I can use compiz lol
[00:03] <progesterone> manug Do I have to install seperately?
[00:03] <Fretegi_2> how do u check verion of ubuntu?
[00:03] <Fretegi_2> version
[00:03] <hipitihop> Al2O3, are you using wireless ?
[00:03] <Fretegi_2> -version?
[00:03] <LjL> !version | Fretegi_2
[00:03] <subby83> linux: I can't complain about flash on my ubuntu...
[00:03] <chemjeff> mneptok, I downloaded the libflashplayer.so from this URL: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[00:03] <khensthoth> kavurt: Okay then, go to the Firefox Preference. Under Applications, search for apt. Is it associated with anything?
[00:03] <Rods_Tiger> trism - I've downloaded it but it's one of those tgz files. I knew this would be more complicated than it's worth
[00:03] <epinky> Cyanure: did you follow this? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[00:03] <manug> progesterone, "sudo aptitude install kolourpaint" in a terminal
[00:03] <Al2O3> hipitihop: yes, and have wired as well here at my desk
[00:03] <chemjeff> !flash
[00:03] <linux> Subby83: tell me ur configuration
[00:03] <Al2O3> so either can do fine for me.
[00:03] <Al2O3> I would like wireless.
[00:04] <ShapeShifter499> thanks for the help
[00:04] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[00:04] <Cyanure> !upgrade
[00:04] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[00:04] <progesterone> manug Thanks
[00:04] <linux> subby83: http://www.justin.tv/blackpanther666        go to this video stream and play it for 5 minutes and see if it ever stops for a second or 2
[00:04] <Fretegi_2> thanks
[00:04] <manug> progesterone, actually, that might have been wrong, one moment
[00:04] <hipitihop> ok, wireless suport is pretty good these days but still hardware is ahrdware so if you do het as far as getting it to run, also check if it is happy with your wireless hardware and that you can get it connected before you install
[00:04] <subby83> linux: okay wait a second... but i could stop, because my i7 is running 8 threads with 100%, but lets see. :)
[00:04] <Fretegi_2> so everyone has x1200 running ok in karmic?
[00:05] <manug> progesterone, "sudo aptitude install kolourpaint4"
[00:05] <kavurt> khensthoth: there's no apt
[00:05] <Wipster> How do I stop the allow access to keyring popup when I want to edit a network connection
[00:05] <Rods_Tiger> trism - no, none of that works so far. It says type "ruby setup.rb" but that doesn't work
[00:05] <Wipster> ?
[00:05] <manug> progesterone, sorry about that, they switched the version or something
[00:05] <hipitihop> Al2O3, good luck, I'm off
[00:05] <khensthoth> kavurt: Weird. Let me search online. In the meantime what do you wish to install?
[00:05] <progesterone> manug I though so.
[00:05] <progesterone> manug Thanks
[00:06] <Wipster> Anyone else get this popup asking for keyring access?
[00:06] <manug> progesterone, no problem -- did you try it? if you want to launch, it's in applications --> graphics
[00:06] <manug> progesterone, (once it's installed)
[00:06] <kavurt> khensthoth: nothing in particular. i was just trying to find out how allmyapps works
[00:06] <hipitihop> Al2O3, I would read this first though before downloading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[00:07] <tomkruz> ARRAY(0x958ff20)
[00:07] <Andorin> >_>
[00:07] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[00:07] <Andorin> !exploit
[00:07] <khensthoth> kavurt: Basically they just use the apturl command. You click the install button and it should launch apt-get to get that application in your repository.
[00:07] <subby83> linux: makes no sense at the moment, my cpu is overloaded with simulation stuff ;)  but my flash player never hang.. i use the 64 bit beta (or alpha?) one
[00:07] <Tommi> So I guess I was missing something big with 'sudo'...it ignores the current setting of the $PATH variable?
[00:08] <Akkernight> I'm trying to run Ubuntu server version on VirtualBox and I've got Win7 x64, but when I try to install, it just says "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unbable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU." What is this supposed to mean?
[00:08] <Tommi> How do I add elements to the path for sudo, then?
[00:08] <barf> whois tomkruz?
[00:08] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0?
[00:08] <barf> tomkruz attempted to send me craploads of files of size 0
[00:09] <Pici> !exploit | barf
[00:09] <manug> barf -- it happened to a lot of people i think
[00:09] <trism> Rods_Tiger: you need to extract the archive first...tar xzf rubygems_whatever.tgz, then cd the directory that is created and sudo ruby setup.rb
[00:09] <linux> subby83: i was using Ubuntu 64bit with the 64bit flash player and it was stopping too..... I'm not talking about hanging. Im talking about it stops for a second or 2 to catch up to the stream and resumes
[00:09] <neztov> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 from a usb stick, but it gives an error after a while, telling me there is some problem with the data on the stick. Because I don't have any media to reinstall a ubuntu 9.10 live cd I thought of mounting a fresh downloaded 9.10 version and installing it with the help of this one. Is this possible?
[00:09] <trism> Rods_Tiger: you may need build-essential installed for it to succeed
[00:09] <Rods_Tiger> trism - aha. I've brought the file back to my Mac, and used archive manager on it.
[00:09] <barf> I am OK with chatting, but what does DCC have to do with IRC?
[00:09] <epinky> Akkernight: ask #vbox
[00:10] <subby83> linux: it never did that... but problably because i got an intel i7 and 50 MBit ;)  dont know..
[00:10] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, configure the network manager to auto connect when you choose eth0
[00:10] <Akkernight> epinky: thanks
[00:10] <velcroshoo> barf: dcc is the transfer protocol on irc for files
[00:10] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: this is how its setup now, which doesnt work
[00:10] <barf> I never use that one, can I turn it off?
[00:10] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im helping my dad remotely (over pidgin) with his computer. He runs Ubuntu 8.04. I just had him run "update-manager -d" and it shows it wants to upgrade to 10.4... thats sweet but, 10.4 is ... not even alpha? Anyway, I want him to upgrade to 9.10, how do I do this?
[00:11] <luist> how can i convert bin/cue to iso?
[00:11] <zythyl> hey would someone be able to answer a few questions for me please?
[00:11] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | velcroshoo
[00:11] <barf> luist: bin2iso?
[00:11] <linux> subby I have 2.5hz Core2Duo 6GB ram and 30megabit download
[00:11] <luist> barf, sounds good :)
[00:11] <epinky> neztov: have you used unetbootin ?
[00:11] <khensthoth> kavurt: What version of Ubuntu and Firefox are you using?
[00:11] <neztov> epinky, i used the usb creator
[00:12] <acicula> phoenixz: try without the -d ?
[00:12] <sabgenton> can I use the usb-creator to put the ubuntu server iso on to usb
[00:12] <luist> barf, something in the repo?
[00:12] <barf> luist: binchunker?
[00:12] <epinky> neztov: use unetbootin? most of the time it'll work
[00:12] <epinky> neztov: use unetbootin* most of the time it'll work
[00:12] <sabgenton> ?
[00:12] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: how is wicd going to help me?
[00:12] <VCoolio> phoenixz: sounds like it wants to update lts to lts; you'll need to update version by version if you want to arrive at 9.10; check if update manager is set to show all releases, not only lts
[00:12] <kavurt> khensthoth: karmic 3.5.5
[00:12] <subby83> linux: no idea, but as i said, i'm absolutely fine with flash, and i use it a lot, probably its an connection issue with some sites you visit.. you can have 100 mbit, if the server is too slow it doesn't matter how fast your connection is
[00:12] <neztov> ok i'm going to try it again with unetbootin then
[00:12] <neztov> is it in the standard repo's?
[00:13] <epinky> neztov: yes, I think so
[00:13] <barf> luist: bchunk
[00:13] <barf> in the karmic package
[00:13] <VCoolio> neztov: in universe, yes
[00:13] <phoenixz> VCoolio: Where can I find this configuration?
[00:13] <khensthoth> kavurt: Hmm... It should work by default. Anyway, try the instructions for Firefox 3 see if it works. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[00:13] <luist> barf, found it... thanks :)
[00:13] <phoenixz> acicula: duh, you';re right, the -d is for devel vesion :)
[00:13] <subby83> linux: mine does also sometimes wait for the stream, but thats nothing about flash player
[00:13] <sabgenton> don't have a cd/dvd drive at the moment just want to know if usb-creator works for all current ISO's or just the netbook ISO
[00:13] <yusuf> hello
[00:13] <khensthoth> zythyl: !ask
[00:13] <yusuf> who is using Ubuntu 9.10?
[00:13] <VCoolio> phoenixz: actually I don't know; try synaptic; let me check
[00:14] <velcroshoo> sabgenton: should work with any ubuntu iso
[00:14] <zythyl> I wanted to try out Ubuntu on my current Windows 7 system; so I downloaded the Ubuntu / Windows installer and it's asking me which drive I'd like to install on. Since C: drive is the drive with my current OS I assumed it logical to install Ubuntu there as well: thing is, there's an option for "installation size" - what does that mean? Does more room for installation mean a faster OS? Also, if I end up disliking Ubuntu, could I 
[00:14] <linux> In windows it never waits for the stream though
[00:14] <phoenixz> VCoolio: Its my dad.. synaptic already passes over whats humanly possible for him :)
[00:14] <linux> it has to be a flash player problem
[00:14] <velcroshoo> sabgenton: ive used it myself with a non-netbook distro, so from experience i can say its not specific to that
[00:15] <sabgenton_> velcroshoo: cool
[00:15] <byniek> hi
[00:15] <ikey> Anybody know how to make applications skip the openbox taskbar on ubuntu?
[00:15] <ikey> it does it on slackware but not on ubuntu :/
[00:15] <neztov> epinky, are you sure, because I have checked universe in software sources but can't find it
[00:15] <neztov> epinky, maybe I have to search  another name?
[00:15] <khensthoth> zythyl: Larger installation size would enable you to have a larger free space in Ubuntu to use, so to speak. It doesn't make the system run faster, as far as I know. And you could easily remove Ubuntu if you installed it that way.
[00:16] <Fretegi_2> no issues on karmic with ati x1200's?
[00:16] <sabgenton_> velcroshoo: is there anywhere that shows you exactly what it does?
[00:16] <ikey> nobody knows anything of openbox + tint2 on jaunty?
[00:16] <sabgenton_> or how to do it manually
[00:16] <sabgenton_> out of  interest
[00:16] <zythyl> @khensthoth
[00:16] <zythyl> so i am restricted with 17gb if I choose it?
[00:16] <epinky> neztov: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-unetbootin-in-ubuntu
[00:17] <Rods_Tiger> completely different question: is there a way on linux of taking a pdf and converting it into an audio file, consisting of the text being read out?
[00:17] <velcroshoo> sabgenton: there is an entire page in the ubuntu forums about installation from USB, and it handles the usb-creator way and manually, though i dont have the specific address handy
[00:17] <barf> yusuf: I use 9.10 on my ps3
[00:17] <ikey> Rods_Tiger, copy the text into a text file, run it through festival and sox?
[00:17] <Rods_Tiger> aha
[00:17] <zythyl> The reason I ask is because the Ubuntu / Windows installer only allows up to 30GB install size... I find this remarkably small...
[00:18] <ikey> wubi?
[00:18] <neztov> epinky, perfect. thanx for the help
[00:18] <khensthoth> zythyl: Not sure, but do note that the system files for Ubuntu is around 2.5 - 3 GB in a default install. So if you choose 17, you might end up with 14 GB of free space or so.
[00:18] <epinky> neztov: you're welcome :)
[00:19] <craig___> Pasting from ubuntu, into an RDP session causes skype to crash on the remote machine. Any idea could be causing this?
[00:19] <khensthoth> Guys, if one install Ubuntu via Wubi, would he be able to resize that "partition" later?
[00:19] <VCoolio> phoenixz: in update-manager, press the settings button down left, then in the window that comes up check the updates tab and all down check if it' set to normal releases and not only long term support
[00:19] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to set the fan speed on a ati radeon graphics cards
[00:19] <phoenixz> VCoolio: thanks!
[00:19] <MikeChelen> khensthoth: yeah it is possible, idk how easy exactly
[00:20] <chuckf> what's with all the DCC send/chats that I get from this channel?
[00:20] <manug> ! exploit | chuckf
[00:20] <khensthoth> MikeChelen: Thanks. Found it on the Ubuntu Wiki.
[00:20] <VCoolio> phoenixz: meanwhile, if you're really going to upgrade all the way to 9.10 I stronly suggest a fresh install (especially if you have /home on a different partition, you can keep that
[00:20] <zythyl> So the partition Ubuntu will create is meant to be for the kernel / system files? Can I have access to my other drives through Ubuntu that I normally could through Windows? Also, how easy is it to UNINSTALL Ubuntu from the partition it created? And to merge that partition with the Windows OS's partition?
[00:20] <chuckf> thanks manug
[00:21] <manug> np
[00:21] <khensthoth> zythyl: You could resize the installation, but it's not exactly trivial if you are very very new to Ubuntu. 17GB though, is aplenty for Ubuntu.
[00:21] <Cyber_Akuma> Grrr, it didn't work, I still get unknown filesystem
[00:21] <phoenixz> VCoolio: /home  isnt on a different partition (Why is ubuntu still not supporting logical volumes?!?!)
[00:21] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to set the fan speed on a ati radeon graphics cards
[00:21] <Fretegi_2> cyber whats the problem?
[00:21] <erUSUL> !lvm | phoenixz
[00:22] <q0_0p> zythyl, sudo fdisk -l  ' to show partitions'
[00:22] <MikeChelen> khensthoth: nice, sounds good
[00:22] <phoenixz> erUSUL: Yeah, I know, but its not out of the box, which it should IMHO..
[00:22] <linux> They should call it Poopbuntu
[00:22] <q0_0p> zythyl, sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda* /path
[00:22] <linux> hahhaha
[00:22] <plitter> is there a way to test if the systsem has properly identified the builtin mic?
[00:22] <manug> phoenixz, isn't it an install option on the alternate cd?
[00:22] <phoenixz> erUSUL: you can do it by, during install, add the lvm module.. its possible, but this should be just a trasnparent thing..
[00:22] <VCoolio> phoenixz: logical volumes like what? c:\ and d:\ ? that's not logical, that's just numbering; linux uses functional names
[00:22] <Cyber_Akuma> Fretegi_2: grub cant start
[00:22] <Cyber_Akuma> keept saying unknown filesystem
[00:22] <Cyber_Akuma> keeps*
[00:23] <linux> man 64bit or 32bit i cant get flash working perfectly to watch video streams @  justin.tv   its really dissapointing... but i gota go poop
[00:23] <erUSUL> phoenixz: imho is overkill for a desktop and only add a nother layer of complexity == bad in case of disaster
[00:23] <phoenixz> VCoolio: eh, Im talking LVM here... dunno what you are talking about but thats not LVM :)
[00:23] <q0_0p> linux, cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[00:23] <khensthoth> zythyl: If you installed Ubuntu that way, within Windows, using Wubi, it's really easy to uninstall - just like uninstalling other application in Windos through the Control Panel. You can access the Windows file too.
[00:23] <phoenixz> manug: I think it is actually, yeah, but "normal" people, like my dad, use the sweet live CD, not scary text only install things
[00:24] <zythyl> If I say, have a game on my G: drive and install an Ubuntu partition on my C: drive, could I run that game / install that game from the G: drive using Wine? Or does it have to be on the same drive?
[00:24] <manug> phoenixz, yeah, and he probably doesn't care about lvm either =)
[00:24] <zythyl> Thanks for clarifying that khens.
[00:24] <Fretegi_2> hmmm, grub doesnt load at all? did it ever boot?
[00:24] <phoenixz> erUSUL: well, with that logic, it would be the worst option ever for servers but there is where its used alot.. Thing is, its ideal, also for desktops..
[00:24] <Cyber_Akuma> not with ubuntu
[00:24] <erUSUL> we can agree to disagree ;P
[00:24] <Cyber_Akuma> it booted when only windows was on it
[00:25] <Fretegi_2> now its dual booted with win?
[00:25] <MikeChelen> zythyl: when you install in linux with wine, the files will be in different place
[00:25] <phoenixz> manug: He doesn't care about LVM, no... He does care about not wanting to reinstall because he has his home directory full with stuff, he does not want to return eveyrthing from backups.. LVM would make it very easy just to move some stuff around
[00:25] <khensthoth> zythyl: I think first you might want to check the compatibility of your game under WINE first. As far as I know, you normally need to "reinstall" the application to use it under WINE.
[00:25] <Fretegi_2> and buntu never loaded ever? does grub load at all and if so can u launch the win loaded from it?
[00:25] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah, or TRYING rather
[00:25] <Cyber_Akuma> nope, no grub menu appears
[00:25] <Cyber_Akuma> it just instnatly says unknown filesystem
[00:25] <phoenixz> manug: same thing that he doesn't care about kernels, but he likes using linux :)
[00:26] <Cyber_Akuma> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8387539
[00:26] <Cyber_Akuma> what ive tried so far
[00:26] <q0_0p> Cyber_Akuma, did u install windows after installing ubuntu?
[00:26] <manug> phoenixz, fair enough, luckily he has you =)
[00:26] <Cyber_Akuma> and my problem in more detail
[00:26] <Cyber_Akuma> no
[00:26] <Cyber_Akuma> i installed windows first
[00:26] <MikeChelen> zythyl: if there is some particularly big file, you might be able to symlink it in linux so it reads the copy on the windows drive
[00:26] <FloodBot4> Cyber_Akuma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <q0_0p> Cyber_Akuma, u can always put in a live cd and see if the partitions is still intact?
[00:26] <q0_0p> Cyber_Akuma, then restore grub???
[00:26] <phoenixz> manug: eh.. well, I suppose one the ideas of a good operating system is that its not a requirement to have a nerd in the familiy..
[00:27] <q0_0p> Cyber_Akuma, shrugs
[00:27] <Cyber_Akuma> thats what I just used, and yes they are
[00:27] <Cyber_Akuma> I JUST installed ubuntu
[00:27] <Guest38123> Is there a Ubuntu Netbook Remix specific channel?
[00:27] <Fretegi_2> where is ur /boot?
[00:27] <Fretegi_2> seperate partition?
[00:28] <Fretegi_2> u running off of live cd?
[00:28] <manug> phoenixz, but most people won't even bother with reinstalling. they would take it to best buy or something. so thinking about them is probably not super productive
[00:28] <Cyber_Akuma> atm yeah
[00:28] <linux>  ubuntu netbook remix? Sounds like a african 100 dollar laptop hip hop group
[00:28] <Cyber_Akuma> my boot partition is a seperate ext2 partition
[00:29] <Snausages> linux: hadn't paid much attention to the sound of the name, but you may be right
[00:29] <jimbeam12> anyone have this problem with ati cards..aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[00:29] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0?
[00:29] <Fretegi_2> ok, go to system/admin/ partition editor
[00:30] <Fretegi_2> list the partitions displayed in pastebin and post
[00:30] <linux> velcro do format /ubuntu hahaha
[00:30] <linux> jk
[00:30] <Guest38123> Also, fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[00:31] <Cyber_Akuma> you mean gparted?
[00:31] <Fretegi_2> i suspect that the fs is just plain hosed for some reason.  if u have never installed from this disk before did u checksum it?  could have just been a bad dl of ubuntu
[00:31] <velcroshoo> hilarious. you should join charlie brown on the thanksgiving special. anywho ...
[00:31] <j5> hmmmm
[00:31] <wahben> linux, I get "format: command not found" when I do format /ubuntu
[00:31] <RFXCasey> wrong place to ask I'm sure but what irc clients do you all use?
[00:31] <Cyber_Akuma> im using mirc :P
[00:31] <linux> u have to update ur distro with sudo apt coolbuntu-addon
[00:32] <IdleOne> linux: you here to help or just to troll?
[00:32] <plitter> is there any way to check if a built-in microphone works?
[00:32] <Guest38123> RFXCasey: Chatzilla
[00:32] <wahben> linux, "sudo: apt: command not found"
[00:32] <Tommi> xchat
[00:32] <plitter> an easy way?
[00:32] <linux> sorry ill stop
[00:32] <Slart> !irc | RFXCasey
[00:32] <Cyber_Akuma> gpartedis gui based, I can't pastebin anything from it
[00:32] <Tommi> prettty decent, imo
[00:32] <Fretegi_2> thats why u just type it in :)
[00:32] <Fretegi_2> /dev/sda1- ntfs blah blah
[00:33] <erUSUL> !u | linux
[00:33] <mysoogal> guys i just buy VPS, and im confused how to install rtorrent on it ! to do seedbox thing can somebody please help me with it !
[00:33] <Slart> mysoogal: vps?
[00:33] <mysoogal> yeah
[00:33] <mysoogal> vps server
[00:34] <mysoogal> the server is ubuntu 8, with no software installed, how to install remote desktop on it through ssh ?
[00:34] <mysoogal> pease somebody help me
[00:34] <erUSUL> mysoogal: sudo aptitude install rtorrent
[00:35] <erUSUL> !software | mysoogal
[00:35] <jimbeam12> anyone??
[00:35] <mysoogal> i dont have remote desktop access i just have SSH access to my box
[00:35] <Fretegi_2> why dont u have remote desktop, pre-installed
[00:35] <Slart> jimbeam12: anyone what?
[00:35] <chuckf> mysoogal: on a vps you probably do not have a desktop
[00:35] <mysoogal> i need to know how to install remote desktop or rtorrent on ssh
[00:35] <Subby83> I have a problem with empathy irc. I don't get it working to open another room. When I go to Room-> (Join or Enter) an type in another room nothing happens
[00:35] <mysoogal> yes i do not have it i think
[00:36] <Slart> jimbeam12: just repeat the entire question if you don't get an answer.. but wait at least 15 minutes before repeating
[00:36] <chuckf> mysoogal: I'd be surprised if you did
[00:36] <Slart> mysoogal: vnc might work for the remote desktop thingy
[00:36] <jimbeam12> have this problem.."aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[00:36] <mysoogal> i install vncserver, when i top, it says vncconf what is that
[00:37] <klabezo> please some one help me i want to update ubuntu from local folder how can i download the update files only and install it in other pc
[00:37] <mysoogal> somebody please pm me, who has installed rtorrent on a vps using SSH :(
[00:38] <Cyber_Akuma> of for the love of
[00:38] <Slart> klabezo: try some of the apt utilities.. I think there is a aptoncd to put the files on a cdr
[00:38] <Cyber_Akuma> whats with this annoying unregistered nick bull****
[00:38] <Slart> !register | Cyber_Akuma
[00:38] <Subby83> I can not join another room in empathy irc. when i try to, the room name appears int the menu list, bit there is no new windows, neither a tab
[00:39] <mysoogal> guys how to install remote desktop, using SSH ? can somebody explain to me slowly please
[00:40] <Fretegi_2> u sure u dont already have it?
[00:40] <Cyber_Akuma> FINALLY
[00:40] <mysoogal> i have a VPS without any software on it
[00:40] <crazy2be> help, i can't click!
[00:40] <Cyber_Akuma> Anyway, heres what my partitions look like:
[00:40] <mysoogal> im right now just got to install aptitude and rtorrent
[00:40] <Cyber_Akuma> http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2312/screenshotdevsdagparted.png
[00:40] <chuckf> mysoogal: you said your vps was ubuntu based. If so try sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[00:40] <mysoogal> but how do access it on web ?
[00:40] <Guest38123> mysoogal: you have ssh, right?
[00:40] <crazy2be> i can't move windows or click anywhere
[00:41] <roosh> anyone know why my ralink wireless isnt working?
[00:41] <Cyber_Akuma> This bug where my display keeps going black for 2 seconds every few seconds is causing me to pull my hair out as well...
[00:41] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0?
[00:41] <Subby83> it is 1:30 am i need to get some cornflakes... :)
[00:41] <chuckf> mysoogal: you don't get it on the
[00:41] <Helsinkiii> how can a n00b like me swap Alsa for OSS/?
[00:41] <mysoogal> yes im installing it right now rtorrent like this sudo apt-get install rtorrent, but how to access it online ?
[00:41] <crazy2be> i can move the mouse and issue keyboard commands, but some (like Ctrl+f7 for moving a window) don't work, and i can't close windows or naviate anything with the mouse
[00:41] <chuckf> 'web' you get it via ssh
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma> anyone?
[00:42] <Guest38123> roosh: What kind of system is it?
[00:42] <Slart> Helsinkiii: got a creative card?
[00:42] <mysoogal> yeah im java log ssh
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> Slart:no
[00:42] <roosh> im on ubuntu 9.10
[00:42] <crazy2be> oh my
[00:42] <Slart> Helsinkiii: oh.. any particular reason you want to use OSS then?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, install wicd, network manager has problems
[00:42] <crazy2be> it just started working again
[00:42] <Guest38123> roosh: laptop?
[00:42] <Fretegi_2> hmmm... well parts look good cyber, all the methods i can think of to fix it will take longer than it would to just reload the damn thing
[00:42] <neosix> Hello! I have one question. I'm using fluxbox, is there a way to have smooth fonts without gnome-settings-daemon?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> !sneakernet | klabezo
[00:42] <crazy2be> thanks?
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> Slart:Alsa sound quality pissing me off since Day 1
[00:42] <roosh> desktop hp a6700f
[00:42] <mysoogal> ok guys i have install rtorrent , how to access it online ? i know my ip but how to start it online
[00:42] <lotec> anyone have google voice?
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma> This is the second time I have reinstalled ubuntu
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma> a reinstall isnt going to help
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> Slart:have fiddled with all Alsa settings, and speaker settings...still not liking it. XP plays the same files way better
[00:43] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: i believe this is more of an eth0 problem than wlan0 ... wireless works flawlessly until ethernet is plugged in.
[00:43] <Fretegi_2> same disk?
[00:43] <Guest38123> roosh: ok, sorry.  Was just checking to see if you had the same problem I fixed yesterday.  Different hardware, though.  Sorry
[00:43] <Slart> Helsinkiii: ok.. fair enough.. I think I've seen some howto's on installing OSS.. I don't have any urls handy at the moment though
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma> yes
[00:43] <Fretegi_2> did u checksum the disk?
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma> and its a new hdd btw
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma> no
[00:43] <chuckf> mysoogal: have you read the manual?
[00:43] <roosh> np
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> Slart:i've found soem but they seem scary
[00:43] <klabezo> no i want to know where is i can find the packages i download and take it to update other pc
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma> At this point I highly dubt thats the problem though
[00:44] <Fretegi_2> go get the checksum from ubuntu.com and fun it
[00:44] <mysoogal> chuckf which manual ?
[00:44] <Fretegi_2> run*
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> Slart:have been using Ubuntu for a month
[00:44] <Cyber_Akuma> I mean, everything else works on the livecd
[00:44] <chuckf> the user guide on the project page
[00:44] <Slart> Helsinkiii: I don't think you'll find anything that is point'n'click... you'll probably have to compile it yourself
[00:44] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, iwconfig , pastebin the output
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> that sucks. on windows you could uninstall drivers, and replace them, then tell the audio player to look there
[00:45] <yUraKeshi> what is the Theme Package extension??
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma: What problem are you having?
[00:45] <roosh> Could anyone help me get my wireless ralink (rt73 driver) to work?
[00:46] <mysoogal> is anybody willing to install rtorrent form me ?
[00:46] <Slart> Helsinkiii: there's no way to change audio system on windows.. not even a scary way =/
[00:46] <Jordan_U> roosh: Have you tried linux-backport-modules-wireless ?
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> huh
[00:46] <roosh> Jordan_U: no i have not
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> that is confusing, but whatever
[00:46] <roosh> what is it?
[00:47] <yUraKeshi> how do i import a theme in Emerald Themer Manager?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> roosh: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic
[00:47] <Slart> Helsinkiii: you've looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[00:47] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m2f1d7fed
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8387539
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> thats my problem
[00:47] <Jordan_U> roosh: It's updated wireless drivers
[00:48] <VCoolio> yUraKeshi: with the import button top right
[00:48] <BluesKaj> ok velcroshoo plug in the eth0 and do ifconfig
[00:48] <roosh>  Jordan_U: ok ill try it
[00:49] <DasEi> roosh: why not using vuze ?
[00:49] <datz> hi, I used to be able to change boot order by editing: /boot/grub/menu.lst   ..not anymore, how now?
[00:49] <roosh> what do you mean?
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> well clearly something isnt right, grub isnt recognizing the fs
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> from terminal
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> type fdisk -l /dev/sda
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> should be an asterick my the bootable partition, should be ur ext2
[00:49] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: k hang on ill prolly drop when i plug it in
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> listed as /dev/sda4 on ur post
[00:49] <FloodBot4> Fretegi_2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <Fretegi_2> sorry /dev/sda1 should have a bootflag on urs, and u installed win first right, what win version
[00:49] <trism> datz: you can set the default item to boot by settting GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and running sudo update-grub
[00:49] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, you need to make sure the wifi isn't trying to connect which will autodisable the eth0 in some setups
[00:50] <datz> trism: thanks
[00:50] <trism> datz: you can specify items by name, so that when new kernels get added, it still points to the same entry
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Grub2 can use it's own ata drivers to read the drive rather than depending on the BIOS
[00:50] <plitter> is there an easy way to update to latest version of alsa, preferably from the repositories?
[00:50] <DasEi> !latest |plitter:
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: I am not sure if that is indeed the problem grub is having so I don't know if switching to ata.mod would help
[00:50] <Cyber_Akuma_2> so its not even a lba48 isue?
[00:51] <Cyber_Akuma_2> what IS the issue then?
[00:51] <plitter> !backports
[00:51] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: I don't know
[00:51] <DasEi> plitter: latest means getting tarball from alsaproject, compile it
[00:51] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Does grub give you a rescue shell?
[00:51] <Cyber_Akuma_2> yes
[00:51] <datz> trism: humm, GRUB_DEFAULT=0  where is list of boot items?
[00:51] <roosh> Jordan_U: what should i do after its installed?
[00:51] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: my problem is when eth0 is connected it seems to override wlan0. ifconfig output - http://pastebin.com/m3a00f1f8
[00:52] <Jordan_U> roosh: Unload an reload the module
[00:52] <plitter> DasEi: do i have to uninstall the current alsa?
[00:52] <trism> datz: /boot/grub/grub.cfg will list all the entries, you shouldn't edit that file directly though
[00:52] <Guest38123> What's a good RAR archive extractor?
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Does "ls -l" in that shell correctly identify all your partitions?
[00:52] <datz> trism: even if it is just copy and paste of order?
[00:52] <DasEi> plitter: in case of compiling ? no
[00:53] <velcroshoo> Guest38123: when you install rar/unrar the standard unarchiver will do it for you
[00:53] <trism> datz: yeah you can look at it to see what is there
[00:53] <Guest38123> thanks velcroshoo
[00:53] <DasEi> Yoshi1: please close pm now, and come back here
[00:53] <plitter> DasEi: k, will try to compile
[00:53] <Yoshi1> wait theres now an install to run ubuntu from windows? is it like a virtual server or or does the comp reboot to boot up in ubuntu?
[00:53] <datz> trism: I guess I still don't see how to do this..
[00:53] <ries> hey guys, how can I prevent that drivers are loaded during ubuntu startup?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> datz: You can change the order by changing the order of the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[00:53] <DasEi> !compile | plitter
[00:53] <ries> I don't need all sounds drivers loaded for example...
[00:53] <maco> Yoshi1: reboot
[00:53] <Yoshi1> sorry DasEi stupid wibndow scrolled back again
[00:54] <maco> Yoshi1: its a dual boot without partitioning
[00:54] <epinky> !blacklist
[00:54] <Yoshi1> maco: kick freaking ass
[00:54] <DasEi> Yoshi1: which 3 progs ?
[00:54] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, if you can connect with wifi then what is the problem with that ?
[00:54] <maco> Yoshi1: watch your languag
[00:54] <Yoshi1> the cisco vpn the openvpn and the windowsvpn
[00:54] <datz> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:54] <Yoshi1> for securing my desktop now it has ssh on it
[00:54] <Jordan_U> datz: np
[00:54] <Yoshi1> sorry maco
[00:55] <DasEi> Yoshi1: to install is fail2ban, the other notes are things to be configured
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Does "ls -l" in that shell correctly identify all your partitions?
[00:55] <Yoshi1> DasEi: yeah i got fail2ban on it now
[00:55] <velcroshoo> BluesKaj: the eth0 is to my local network. inet is wireless. if ones connect the other doesnt work. therefore i cannot have internet going wirelessly and stream video to my tv etc on my local network. im not talking about bridging, just two seperate networks at the same time
[00:55] <DasEi> !info fail2ban > Yoshi1
[00:56] <hexxa> I have spotted that Amarok is missing a package required for playback, I'm running a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10. This is an issue that I should forward to the Amarok team, right ?
[00:57] <datz> Jordan_U: so I could change "40_custom" to "01_custom" if I think this load my vista OS?
[00:57] <Yoshi1> DasEi: guess ubottu doesnt know about fail2ban
[00:58] <grkblood13> stupid netsplits
[00:58] <Jordan_U> datz: 30_os-prober Is what adds the vista entry, 40_custom is if you want to add your own entry manually
[00:58] <BluesKaj> velcroshoo, i just use one network for video streaming to my media server and it's eth0 , dunno how to help, sorry.
[00:58] <Yoshi1> grrr i want to be able to access my desktops desktop from remote computer
[00:58] <BluesKaj> tvtime with wifey
[00:58] <lotec> anyone have google voice?
[00:58] <DasEi>  ubott: fail2ban (source: fail2ban): bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-6ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 90 kB, installed size 648 kB , Yoshi1  and :  http://tinyurl.com/2a5msp
[00:59] <datz> Jordan_U: ok, thanks, so rename "30_os-prober" something like "01_os-prober"?
[00:59] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yeah, it seems to
[00:59] <Cyber_Akuma_2> sorry for my late reply
[01:00] <trism> datz: you should probably do 09_os-prober so it goes right before the linux kernels...because you want it to go after the headers and the theme
[01:00] <Jordan_U> datz: Yes, i'd choose 09_os-prober but it doesn't really matter as long as it's between 1 and 10
[01:00] <DasEi>  plitter: ask if you need more help
[01:00] <Jordan_U> datz: So yes
[01:00] <datz> ok, thanks
[01:00] <plitter> DasEi: thanks, i'll probably need it
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Does the shell prompt say "grub>" or "rescue>" ?
[01:01] <DasEi>  plitter: first download tarball to desktop
[01:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ill have to reboot
[01:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> one sec
[01:01] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:01] <trism> datz: although instead of messing with the order you could just do GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows Vista (on /dev/whatever)" (whatever the name is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg) if you just wanted to change the default, then change it back to GRUB_DEFAULT=0 if you wanted to go back to the latest ubuntu kernel as default
[01:01] <hexxa> Amarok fails to play on Ubuntu 9.10, solved by installing libxine1-ffmpeg package, common problem?
[01:01] <Guest38123> Fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[01:02] <mgmuscari> anybody hear anything about the inability to click on flash objects bug?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Also try running "set" and tell me what $prefix is equal to
[01:02] <DasEi>  plitter: (trml) : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[01:02] <datz> trism: I see, well already made the other change, so I'll stick with that for now, thanks for the info though
[01:03] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:03] <plitter> DasEi: also automake:)
[01:03] <Cyber_Akuma_2> set in the recovery console?
[01:03] <epinky> hexxa: have relation with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/459632
[01:03] <DasEi>  plitter: (trml) : sudo cp ~/Desktop/alsa*  /usr/src
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes
[01:03] <Cyber_Akuma_2> it says grub rescue>
[01:04] <roosh> Jordan_U: How do I load/unload a module? and which one should I unload? (im the guy w/ the ralink driver)
[01:04] <Guest38123> Is there a Ubuntu Netbook Remix specific channel?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> roosh: sudo rmmod <module> && sudo modprobe <module>
[01:04] <Jordan_U> roosh: You can also just reboot
[01:04] <Cyber_Akuma_2> prefix=(0,4)/grub
[01:04] <Cyber_Akuma_2> root=hd0,4
[01:05] <roosh> Jordan_U: i did reboot with no success...ive been having this problem for a long time
[01:05] <DasEi>  plitter: (trml) : cd /usr/src
[01:05] <epinky> !pm | hexxa
[01:05] <tck9> can you have ipv4 and ipv6 on the same computer using 2 nics?
[01:05] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:05] <DasEi>  plitter: (trml) : ls alsa*               file there ?
[01:05] <hexxa> epinky: oh, sorry about that
[01:05] <maco> tck9: you can do it ith one nic if you want
[01:06] <plitter> alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: prefix was actually "(hd0,4)/grub" right? ( you said "(0,4)/grub" )
[01:06] <plitter> is there
[01:06] <hexxa> epinky: am used to mIRC so didnt see if you pm'd me or if it was in the channel
[01:06] <plitter> DasEi: do i need all of them?
[01:06] <Cyber_Akuma_2> oh, yeah, it has hd, my mistake
[01:06] <DasEi>  plitter: chown plitter alsa*                  , change plitter to the regular username
[01:06] <Jordan_U> !who | Cyber_Akuma_2
[01:07] <optimizer> anyone know of a good machine that suports 3 1920x1200 monitors? perferably one that I can just order from dell
[01:07] <epinky> hexxa: no problem, but you should report your solution (workaround) on that thread
[01:07] <hexxa> epinky: I posted this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216187
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Is (hd0,4) your /boot partition?
[01:07] <DasEi>  plitter: sudo chmod +x  alsa*
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma_2> depends
[01:07] <DasEi>  plitter: sudo chown plitter alsa*                  , change plitter to the regular username
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma_2> wat does it consider 0,4?
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma_2> my boot partition was the fourth one created
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma_2> but in order, its the second partition on the disk
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: 4th partition on the first disk
[01:07] <hexxa> epinky: Ubuntu 9.10 works perfectly with both my wlan cards, its the first time that has happened out of the box.
[01:07] <DasEi>  plitter: tar xvjf  alsa*
[01:07] <epinky> hexxa: great :)
[01:08] <hexxa> epinky: thanx
[01:08] <plitter> DasEi: added sudo to tar xvjf  alsa*
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Does "ls (hd0,4)/grub/" list many files ending in ".mod" ?
[01:08] <Yoshi1> grrr cant load vnc4configf
[01:08] <plitter> DasEi: and done
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma_2> SO what would my boot partition count as?
[01:08] <yUraKeshi> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. I tried to install awn-manager but it won't run! then i installed awn-settings, witch runs but do not accept the theme i wanna use
[01:09] <yUraKeshi> does anyone have an idea of what is going wrong?
[01:09] <DasEi> plitter: right /usr/src not writeable lese,  cd alsa-driver-1.0.21
[01:09] <blue0488> I loged in to the wrong ubuntu one how do I fix it?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: The partition number in grub is the same as the partition number in linux, so (hd0,4) would be sda4
[01:10] <plitter> DasEi: are you norwegian?
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> sda4 is the boot partition as identified in gparted
[01:10] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> even though in physical order its the second one
[01:10] <DasEi> plitter:german
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> it goes hda1, hda4, hda2, hda4
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> err
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> it goes hda1, hda4, hda2, hda3*
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: That doesn't make sense
[01:10] <duncan_bayne> Hi all - quick question, if I echo in rc.local, why isn't it showing up on the console?  This used to work in 8.04 through 9.04, but doesn't in 9.10.
[01:10] <plitter> DasEi: u said lese, had a glimmer of hope:P
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma_2> I made the boot partition last
[01:11] <Cyber_Akuma_2> by shrinking the windows (hda1) partition
[01:11] <DasEi> plitter: else it was
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: That's exactly the wrong thing to do if the problem is with reading past a certain part of the drive :)
[01:11] <Cyber_Akuma_2> doh
[01:11] <plitter> DasEi: aah that explains it:)
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: And please use my nick so I see your messages
[01:11] <DasEi> plitter: ./configure
[01:12] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: sorry
[01:12] <lotec> anyone have google voice?
[01:12] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: so how do i fix this mess
[01:12] <plitter> DasEi: before we continue, should i make a backup of some sort?
[01:12] <DasEi> plitter: not needed
[01:12] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: np, So you can just move /boot within the first 130 GIG of the disk or try installing grub with ata.mod
[01:12] <dtchen> plitter: ping, is bug 432200 yours?
[01:12] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ata.mod?
[01:13] <dtchen> plitter: if so, please follow the instructions I've just left in the bug report
[01:13] <DasEi> plitter: did configure ran with no errors ?
[01:13] <inivex> lotec, i have GV
[01:13] <plitter> dtchen: yes:)
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma_2> does that enable lba48 even if the bios dosent?
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma_2> oops
[01:13] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Grub2 is modular, it can either use biosdisk.mod to access your drives or ata.mod
[01:13] <theneoindian> hi ,  a package i need to install says it depends on sun-java5-jre . but sun-java6-jre is installed . wat shud i do ?
[01:13] <lotec> inivex: can you send me an invite?
[01:13] <plitter> DasEi: permission denied
[01:13] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes
[01:13] <plitter> dtchen: will do soon:)
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: great, if thats the case I wont need a boot partition
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: biosdisk uses the bios, ata.mod uses ata commands directly
[01:14] <inivex> lotec, pm me with your email address
[01:14] <DasEi> plitter: sudo ./configure
[01:14] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: how do I do that?
[01:14] <Duergar> I've been looking online to no avail so far, so can anyone tell me where i can get a list of commands and whatnot for gambas? specifically, i want it so when they click a button the output is printed in a specified area that has been predesignated
[01:14] <plitter> DasEi: seems to have worked
[01:14] <con-man> where do I find the compiz settings after a fresh ubuntu install
[01:15] <theneoindian> hi ,  a package i need to install says it depends on sun-java5-jre . but sun-java6-jre is installed . wat shud i do ? pls help guys .
[01:15] <DasEi> plitter: sudo make
[01:15] <Billiard> con-man: i think the command to start it is something like compizconfig-manager
[01:15] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Follow the guide for re-installing grub from liveCD but when it gets to "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" instead use "sudo grub-install --disk-module=ata /dev/sda"
[01:15] <theneoindian> hi ,  a package i need to install says it depends on sun-java5-jre . but sun-java6-jre is installed . wat shud i do ?
[01:15] <Cyber_Akuma_2> err, what guide? theres hundreds online
[01:16] <con-man> Billiard, bah it wasnt installed by default.  compiz is installed but not the manager
[01:16] <maco> on 9.10 firefox wont start. it says "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1 and 1.9.1.*." I know this means Firefox is fighting with xulrunner, but how do I fix it?
[01:16] <dtchen> plitter: out of curiosity, what's the output from: lspci -nv|grep -A1 0403
[01:16] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0, but they both work independently??
[01:16] <DasEi> plitter: running/done ?
[01:16] <Billiard> con-man: alright you can install it from the package manager then
[01:16] <yUraKeshi> Why when i go to System > Administration > Login Screen i cannot change it?
[01:16] <plitter> DasEi: not yet
[01:16] <dtchen> maco: apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 xulrunner-1.9.1
[01:16] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: sorry, I meant, what guide? theres tons of htem ponline
[01:16] <yUraKeshi> it is always locked up
[01:16] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: keep forgetting to use your name
[01:16] <maco> yUraKeshi: because gnome rewrote gdm and didnt rewrite the theme-changing featur yet
[01:17] <plitter> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/m45415c56
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: I was going to post it then forgot :)
[01:17] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | Cyber_Akuma_2
[01:17] <DasEi> velcroshoo: configure them in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <yUraKeshi> maco, so i can't set it up?
[01:17] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: heh, thanks
[01:17] <Yoshi1> anyone here have experience using vnc?
[01:17] <Duergar> yoshi1: i use it all the time. whats up
[01:17] <plitter> DasEi: is it supposed to take such a long time?
[01:17] <maco> yUraKeshi: the code doesnt exist
[01:17] <maco> dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328122/
[01:17] <DasEi> Yoshi1: small
[01:18] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: huh, do I need to do the apt-get part?
[01:18] <dtchen> plitter: yes, I've already fixed your bug in 10.04/Lucid.
[01:18] <yUraKeshi> maco,  so for what is this button "unlock" ?
[01:18] <DasEi> plitter: depends on machine, but compiling is some heavier stuff, so yes
[01:18] <dtchen> plitter: your bug is a dupe of the one I mentioned in the bug report.
[01:18] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i cant get my laptop to connect to my desktop using vnc nor can the deskltyop open vnc4config it says no display on :0.0
[01:18] <maco> yUraKeshi: wait are you not talking about changing the theme?
[01:18] <maco> yUraKeshi: there was no unlock button the last time i used gnome, but its been nearly a year
[01:18] <yUraKeshi> maco, yes, why?
[01:18] <plitter> dtchen: really:D great
[01:19] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: oh wait, nm, thats to upgrade from grub1
[01:19] <Duergar> Yoshi1: are you connecting from linux version to the windows version, are you using gtk vnc viewer, need more info
[01:19] <Syco54645> hello, i installed karmic koala today and the notification system is rather annoying (on a netbook). how do i go about disabling this?
[01:19] <DasEi> Yoshi1: tightvncserver  , install that on both machines
[01:19] <maco> yUraKeshi: ok well even if you could unlock it, the code doesnt exist. so um...i guess you could write a patch and send it to gnome...or...give up.
[01:19] <Syco54645> i have yet to find a solution
[01:20] <plitter> DasEi: the compiling is done
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Just before youi run grub-install run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and unckeck all drives so that grub upgrades don't re-install grub using bisdisk instead of ata
[01:20] <DasEi> plitter: sudo checkinstall
[01:20] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: sorry, but im confused, where is the reinstall gru section? I only see one for migrating from grub1 to grub2
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202via%20LiveCD
[01:20] <yUraKeshi> maco,  maybe when i learn i little more about linux i will ^^
[01:21] <plitter> dtchen: so install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic and then /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf >>options snd-hda-intel model=auto?
[01:21] <DasEi> plitter:deb biuld ?
[01:21] <DasEi> deb
[01:21] <dtchen> plitter: yes, that's a workaround
[01:22] <DasEi> plitter: backports ??
[01:22] <plitter> DasEi: Should I create a default set of package docs? ?
[01:22] <dtchen> maco: do the symlinks for `which firefox` check out?
[01:22] <Syco54645> anyone know how to disable osd-notify
[01:22] <DasEi> plitter: if you want to read them
[01:22] <maco> dtchen: yep: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-11-25 09:28 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.5
[01:22] <Subby83> is there an easy way to get a sound feedback in a bash script? beep or something? but not over pc-speaker but sound-device
[01:23] <Billiard> Subby83: aplay ?
[01:23] <Adamyno> hi all!
[01:23] <Adamyno> what's the time there?
[01:23] <Adamyno> :)
[01:23] <DasEi> Subby83: beep it is
[01:23] <plitter> DasEi: nahh
[01:23] <dtchen> Subby83: not reliably, and not until 2.6.33 is released.
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Subby83: mplayer
[01:23] <dtchen> maco: I meant following the symlinks
[01:23] <plitter> DasEi: backports are supposed to have new patches, but might not be stable, i think:P
[01:23] <Subby83> Jordan_U: are you kidding? ;)
[01:24] <maco> Syco54645:  gnome-stracciatella-session  doesnt use notify-osd, but thats not the netbook remix.
[01:24] <dtchen> plitter: that package is not from karmic-backports
[01:24] <plitter> DasEi: Installing Debian package... FAILED!
[01:24] <DasEi> plitter: nope, backports are recent items, for some older hw
[01:24] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i jkeep getting a security type error
[01:24] <Al2O3> is the checksum for this file correct?   ubuntu-9.10-desktop-powerpc.iso = fa2c5eb18dfb2e82fffa661fac75a240
[01:24] <Jordan_U> dtchen: What will change with 2.6.33 ?
[01:24] <dtchen> DasEi: / plitter: it is from karmic/universe proper. I asked for it to be added specifically because we need hardware enablement.
[01:24] <Subby83> DasEi: beep does not work. man beep tells me that it goes over pc-speaker...
[01:24] <Al2O3> I'm interested in burning and trying it out, but not without a checksum, the page doesn't have checksum.
[01:24] <Al2O3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[01:24] <maco> dtchen: /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.5/firefox.sh that looks right
[01:25] <DasEi> dtchen: I see
[01:25] <slimjimflim> are there any other variants than kubuntu, edubuntu and xubuntu?
[01:25] <dtchen> Jordan_U: we've unified the beep drivers
[01:25] <Billiard> Al2O3: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/MD5SUMS
[01:25] <Billiard> Al2O3: o sorry no powerpc
[01:25] <Al2O3> yep, seems a slight oversite
[01:25] <maco> slimjimflim: fluxbuntu, mythbuntu, ubuntu studio...
[01:25] <Guest38123> slimjimflim: UNR?
[01:25] <DasEi> plitter: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[01:26] <maco> slimjimflim: kubuntu netbook edition
[01:26] <slimjimflim> oh, i just found a wiki on it
[01:26] <slimjimflim> ty
[01:26] <maco> Billiard: its not on there because its not a canonical supported arch
[01:26] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:26] <DasEi> slimjimflim: ubuntu, ubuntu-studio... and so on
[01:27] <Billiard> maco: yeah i didnt realize he wanted powerpc at first
[01:27] <Al2O3> note, seems the ppc image I have (iso) is like 739 megs, not fit for a standard CD, is that normal?
[01:27] <Subby83> Billiard: aplay does the job, thanks!
[01:27] <DasEi> slimjimflim: and then a variety of distros settling on ubuntu core, though no ubuntu-distros
[01:27] <slimjimflim> Dasei do you like ubuntu-studio?
[01:27] <Billiard> Subby83: np
[01:27] <Al2O3> I would think that all bootable images were going to be 700 or less for users, so DVDs wouldn't be needed.
[01:27] <slimjimflim> anybody else have experience w/ it?
[01:27] <maco> Al2O3: its possible its a dvd iso
[01:27] <slimjimflim> i do a lot of audio work
[01:27] <dtchen> maco: fresh install? you could install xulrunner-1.9.1-dbg and firefox-3.5-dbg and use firefox --debug
[01:28] <maco> dtchen: ugh
[01:28] <slimjimflim> i've always used xubuntu or the standard ubunti
[01:28] <slimjimflim> u
[01:28] <maco> dtchen: yes, installed last night
[01:28] <Al2O3> ok, that is weird though at 739 megs, not much bigger than a cd.
[01:28] <maco> dtchen: at 3am
[01:28] <DasEi> slimjimflim: I used for a try, I'm no musician or painter, but for that it has major advantages
[01:28] <slimjimflim> hmm
[01:28] <maco> Al2O3: ubuntu studio is the same way
[01:28] <slimjimflim> well i think i'm gonna try it
[01:28] <Yoshi1> DasEi: tightvnc gives the same error server didnt offer the security type
[01:28] <dtchen> maco: strace -fF, then, please
[01:29] <DasEi> plitter: sudo  autoconf
[01:29] <Al2O3> going to try and burn the iso ppc 9.10 to a dvd-r
[01:29] <plitter> DasEi: done
[01:29] <Al2O3> on os x disk utility :)
[01:29] <linxeh> Yoshi1: what are you trying to do ?
[01:29] <DasEi> plitter: sudo checkinstall
[01:29] <linxeh> connect to osx vnc ?
[01:29] <Yoshi1> linxeh: use vnc to access my desktop from a laptop
[01:29] <Yoshi1> linxeh: the laptop is windows the desktop is ubuntu
[01:30] <linxeh> oh, my bad then - ignore me :)
[01:30] <DasEi> Yoshi1: you can ping one machine from the other ?
[01:31] <plitter> DasEi: still fail http://pastebin.com/m2cb67489
[01:31] <Yoshi1> DasEi: yep laptop pings desktop
[01:32] <dtchen> maco: msg me the pastebin url; I'm offline very, very shortly
[01:32] <maco> dtchen: ok
[01:32] <DasEi> plitter: did th eupgrade install a new kernel ?
[01:32] <plitter> DasEi: not that i know of
[01:33] <DasEi> plitter: sudo make install
[01:33] <Al2O3> looks like a black friday (pre) sale on 1.5TB WD at new egg
[01:33] <Al2O3> 89 bucks.
[01:33] <Al2O3> limit 1
[01:33] <Al2O3> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136351
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Subby83: If the script is run in gnome-shell then sending a beep sequence to stdout should cause a system beep ( your alert sound, not pcspkr )
[01:34] <gandalfcome> I need to get python2.6 installed on hardy 8.04.3. I tried adding the backport repos but that didnt work. any ideas?
[01:34] <plitter> DasEi: it didnt produce any errors
[01:34] <Al2O3> the whole caviar green stuff makes me puke.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Subby83: I mean gnome-terminal :)
[01:34] <Al2O3> I want full 5400 :)
[01:34] <maco> !ot | Al2O3
[01:34] <Al2O3> oh, sorry.
[01:34] <Subby83> Jordan_U: it doesn't :)
[01:35] <Al2O3> wrong channel.
[01:35] <Al2O3> my bad bad bad.
[01:35] <DasEi> plitter: so installed then, though no deb for easy removal, but nothing to worry about;  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Subby83: Do you hear a sound when you backspace to far in bash?
[01:35] <Yoshi1> DasEi: yeah laptop can ping the desktop
[01:35] <plitter> DasEi:  thanks:)
[01:35] <plitter> DasEi: thats it?
[01:36] <DasEi> plitter: yes
[01:36] <Subby83> Jordan_U: no but i think I deactivated that in terminal profile options, if beep uses this too, i don't wonder anymore :)
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Subby83: beep uses pcspkr wich is disabled by default in 9.10
[01:37] <noren> !sound
[01:37] <plitter> DasEi:  in that case, thank you very much:D
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Subby83: "echo -e \\a" in gnome-terminal will by default use the system alert sound
[01:37] <Subby83> Jordan_U: so, my question was to have something not using pc-speaker :)
[01:38] <Subby83> Jordan_U: but I think aplay works fine for me
[01:38] <chu_> So, what happens with gnome-do now? I use do, but not docky. To continue getting "support" (i.e. updates), do I need to do anything special?
[01:39] <gandalfcome> Does anyone know how to get python2.6 on ubuntu 8.04.3 hardy LTS? thanks
[01:39] <plitter> DasEi: can i uninstall the folder in /usr/src?
[01:39] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i cant find where to configure the tightvncserver security type on windows or linux
[01:40] <plitter> DasEi: or is that needed for alsa?
[01:42] <DasEi> plitter: leave it there for future needs, but can remove d/l from desktop and the tarball in /usr/src
[01:43] <DasEi> plitter: the modules are stored there, only some of them are needed (changing with hardware)
[01:44] <DasEi> Yoshi1: sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer
[01:44] <yUraKeshi> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. I tried to install awn-manager but it won't run! then i installed awn-settings, witch runs but do not accept the theme i wanna use. Any ideas??
[01:44] <DasEi> Yoshi1: start the server on the machine you want to remote on, give it a password
[01:45] <detrate> after upgrading to 9.10, my kde applications (now kde4) don't have window borders :( -- I have no window buttons (minimize, maximize, etc)
[01:45] <epinky> gandalfcome: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/10/installing-python-26-source-ubuntu-hardy/
[01:45] <DasEi> Yoshi1: start xtightvncviewer on the client side, enter ip
[01:46] <yusuf> anybody know win 7 download page?
[01:47] <epinky> !ubuntu| yusuf
[01:47] <Yoshi1> DasEi: wouldnt the desktop need xtightvncserver?
[01:47] <DasEi> yusuf: ##windows
[01:48] <Yoshi1> yusuf: dude i only use windows because i dont have a partition changer and the laptop came with it
[01:48] <DasEi> Yoshi1: tightvncserver  if you want to remote it from the lappi
[01:48] <Yoshi1> though i could use the wubi installer
[01:48] <Yoshi1> and i think i will
[01:48] <plitter> DasEi: when i do the command cat /proc/asound/version i get "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20.", didnt we just install the 1.0.21?
[01:48] <fspilot> hello
[01:48] <yusuf> i m using Ubunut now. Bur also i am using Virtulabox
[01:49] <Yoshi1> DasEi: the xtightvncclient goes on the desktop and the server runs on the lappy to connect to the desktop?
[01:49] <DasEi> Yoshi1: the installer cd let's you do resizing
[01:49] <yusuf> i want to setup Windows 7
[01:49] <DasEi> yusuf: we got it, wrong channel here
[01:49] <Yoshi1> DasEi: oooooh kick fragging butt
[01:49] <usser> yusuf, windows 7 doesnt run very well in virtualbox, dont bother
[01:50] <yusuf> DasEi why is this wrong channel?
[01:50] <DasEi> !ot | yusuf
[01:50] <yusuf> ok ubottu, thanks a lot
[01:50] <Yoshi1> DasEi: ok i am getting very confused over what i have to do to get vnc working. io want a server on my desktop and viewer on my laptop yeys?
[01:50] <DasEi> !windows | yusuf
[01:51] <yusuf> i m trying to go there
[01:52] <DasEi> Yoshi1: you want to control one pc from another one, as I got you control the desk from the lappi, right ?
[01:52] <Yoshi1> DasEi: yes
[01:52] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i run the server on the desktop but the laptop cant connect says wrong security type
[01:52] <DasEi> Yoshi1: so the desk will act as server and the lappi as client
[01:52] <Fr0> Quick question:  I just ran updates on my IBM T42 running 9.10, and all of a sudden my trackpad stopped working.  Anybody have any idea why that would be?
[01:53] <BenFrank> i cannot find the general irc help channel.  please guide me.  will not deviate from topic again.  humble thanks.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> BenFrank: #freenode
[01:54] <Yoshi1> DasEi: correct
[01:54] <BenFrank> Jordan U: many thanks
[01:54] <Jordan_U> BenFrank: np
[01:55] <Subby> okay, i stopped using empathy for irc, seems that xchat is much better ;)
[01:55] <DasEi> Yoshi1: I just tried that, no problem here, (two ubuntu, though) what's the exact error message ?
[01:55] <glaeven> so when i upgraded to 9.10, wlan0 dissapeared
[01:55] <Yoshi1> DasEi: security type not offered by server
[01:56] <DasEi> Yoshi1: http://www.tightvnc.com/download/1.3.10/tightvnc-1.3.10-setup.exe
[01:56] <DasEi> for the lappi
[01:56] <dragon> how do request a DNS record from the authority, skipping all the caches?
[01:56] <Yoshi1> DasEi: yes i installed that on windows
[01:57] <Tommi> How do I change the default path for sudo?
[01:57] <maco> Tommi: thats compiled in
[01:57] <Tommi> I want it to check /opt/blahblah/bin
[01:57] <Tommi> hrm, i see
[01:57] <maco> Tommi: for security reasons
[01:57] <Tommi> i installed a ruby interpeter somewhere funky
[01:57] <Tommi> i see
[01:57] <Tommi> so just enter full path?
[01:57] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i already installed that on the lappi
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Tommi: You can set the path with an option to sudo
[01:58] <Tommi> What is the syntax, if you don't mind me asking?
[01:58] <Tommi> ah, -i?
[02:00] <plitter> does anyone know of a program to send video from webcam to another computer?
[02:00] <maco> Tommi: -i takes you to the same as "su -" would on a system with root access
[02:00] <ibuclaw> Tommi, sudo -i ?
[02:00] <DasEi> Yoshi1: I'm getting tired now, for what purpose do you need it ?
[02:00] <Tommi> hrm, i see, so not 'i'
[02:00] <ibuclaw> Tommi, simulates login.
[02:00] <Yoshi1> DasEi: well mostly to access whats on my desktop for when i go to school. i'll google it though
[02:00] <Tommi> alright, appears to be related to sudoers..
[02:01] <Tommi> lemme read some more of this man page
[02:01] <Subby> DasEi:  can you type my name, so I see xchat is configured as i want it to be? :)
[02:01] <DasEi> Subby:
[02:01] <Tommi> hrm
[02:01] <Tommi> odd
[02:01] <Tommi> it just ingnores my update path variable
[02:01] <ibuclaw> Tommi, sudo -s is exactly the same as sudo -i, except that variables from your user login are carried over.
[02:02] <Tommi> ah
[02:02] <Tommi> perfect
[02:02] <Tommi> that is what i need, i think
[02:02] <Tommi> hrm, or not
[02:02] <Tommi> ok
[02:02] <maco> Tommi: -i and -s are both for getting root shells
[02:02] <ibuclaw> although, I think the "env reset" option in sudoers nullifies that. ;)
[02:02] <Tommi> so i modified my PATH variable in /etc/environment
[02:02] <maco> Tommi: im pretty sure sudo's path cant be changed though
[02:02] <glaeven> does anyone know how to get my wireless back?
[02:02] <Tommi> I see
[02:02] <Tommi> ok
[02:02] <glaeven> the card worked with wicd before 9.10
[02:02] <Tommi> it makes sense
[02:03] <Tommi> i guess i can add a sym link
[02:03] <DasEi> Yoshi1: for that can have a samba share, too, though it's just me being lazy; next try would be to get latest tightvncserver-software and build it from source, few months ago that still worked, the other way round
[02:03] <Tommi> hrm
[02:03] <FloodBot4> Tommi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <maco> Tommi: because i remembr a bug report about it not containing /usr/bin/kde4/ and i patched it to do so
[02:03] <glaeven> and "lshw -C network" shows the card
[02:03] <DasEi> Yoshi1: ^on the desktop-side
[02:03] <Yoshi1> DasEi: nah it is a problem with my lack of knowledge of how to launch a tightvnc server properly. hence the googling
[02:03] <DasEi> !samba | yoshi1
[02:03] <Tommi> It is just a bit annoying, because it kind of means you need to install everything in /usr/bin/
[02:03] <Tommi> but i guess it helps with security
[02:04] <Fr0> Hrm... anyone have any idea why my trackpad would stop working?
[02:04] <maco> Tommi: by the way, you change your own user's environment variables in ~/.bashrc
[02:05] <maco> Fr0: pressed the "turn off trackpad" button?
[02:05] <Yoshi1> DasEi: i dont want to be using a command line all the time. guis can be more efficient in places
[02:06] <DasEi> Yoshi1: desks hardrive like a local harddrive on the lappi > samba, but I' ll rest now
[02:06] <Yoshi1> dase ooo really? thats nifty *goes to google*
[02:07] <heath|OTG> I missed something nifty?
[02:07] <DasEi> Yoshi1: you set up samba server on the desk, then use add networkdrive in windows, that's it
[02:07]  * DasEi off for some time
[02:07] <heath|OTG> oh yes, samba is nifty
[02:08] <Yoshi1> DasEi: soubds mucho simple sleep well DasEi and thanks for all the help today man you saved my butt
[02:08] <DasEi> nah, I grew my trojan-farm, ;-)
[02:08] <DasEi> have fun
[02:11] <vikasap> I am not able to use the screen command. Do I need to do some key bindings on ubuntu before utilising the screen command ?
[02:11] <lstarnes> vikasap: what happens when you use it?
[02:12] <glaeven> can anyone help?
[02:12] <vikasap> lstarnes: The manual says C-a c should create a new screen ... But Ctrl-a c in my case does not
[02:12] <spridel> i'm trying to play a game through wine is there a channel i can go to fro specific help?
[02:12] <lstarnes> vikasap: that works for me
[02:12] <glaeven> it works with wicd on 9.04
[02:12] <Moult> i've got a ubuntu computer connected via ethernet - is it possible to turn it into an adhoc wifi point?
[02:13] <vikasap> lstarnes: Should I hit the "c" key after pressing down the "Ctrl" and the "a" key ?
[02:14] <lstarnes> vikasap: press ctrl+a, release it, then press c
[02:14] <vikasap> lstarnes: No luck
[02:14] <lstarnes> vikasap: try ctrl-a ctrl-c
[02:15] <vikasap> lstarnes: Nope
[02:15] <dft> is anyone else finding firefox3.5 really slow after upgrading to 9.10?
[02:15] <lstarnes> vikasap: what about ctrl+a ?
[02:15] <vikasap> What does your .screenrc file say ?
[02:15] <Moult> vikasap: 1) you must already be running in screen 2) some terminal emulators don't really like it, perhaps they use a different escape key? try esc, c?
[02:15] <dft> it actually looks like network access period
[02:16] <lstarnes> vikasap: http://pastebin.com/f56ee573f
[02:16] <Yoshi1> ok this is going to be more complicated then i thought anyone have an easy manual for setting up samba so windows can access a linux system?
[02:16] <mcurran> Does anyone know if there is a bootloader that'll run from the EFI on a MAC (OS X)?  I want to make a live usb that'll work on my Parent's iMAC, but I don't think it's possible.
[02:16] <mcurran> I know syslinux and grub don't work
[02:16] <vikasap> Moult:
[02:17] <vikasap> lstarnes: I have my .screenrc blank :)
[02:17] <Moult> vikasap: .screenrc is not the problem
[02:18] <vikasap> Moult: I have .screen-profiles too
[02:18] <Moult> vikasap: unrelated. most likely it's your terminal emulator - what are you using?
[02:18] <sofakng> what's the easiest way for me to try out kernel 2.6.32?  I want to try it under Hyper-V to see how well the linux integration components work...
[02:18] <vikasap> Moult: Gnome Terminal 2.6
[02:19] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0, but they both work independently??
[02:19] <Moult> vikasap: that shouldn't be a problem - did you try esc then c? perhaps your keyboard layout is nonstandard?
[02:20] <epinky> mcurran: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ , hope it helps
[02:20] <vikasap> Moult: I did ... I have a Lenovo T400
[02:20] <vikasap> Moult: Must be a standard keyboard
[02:21] <glaeven> can anyone explain how my wireless card is noticed by "lshw -C network" and yet not connected to wlan0?
[02:21] <lstarnes> glaeven: it might be attached to a different interface.  check ifconfig -a
[02:21] <Moult> vikasap: are you connected remotely?
[02:22] <vikasap> Moult: Nope ... Its my local machine
[02:22] <chemjeff> Hi all
[02:22] <Moult> vikasap: caps lock?
[02:23] <vikasap> Moult: Nope... Its off
[02:23] <chemjeff> I'm having a difficult time adding the canonical.com key to my keyring, could someone lend a hand?
[02:23] <chemjeff> !key
[02:24] <Moult> vikasap: do "echo $TERM"?
[02:24] <vikasap> Moult: xterm
[02:24] <chemjeff> I tried this: sudo wget --quiet http://archive.canonical.com/dists/karmic/Release.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add -   and I got the error "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[02:24] <Moult> vikasap: set to xterm-256color?
[02:25] <vikasap> Moult: Nope...Should I do that ?
[02:25] <Moult> vikasap: yeah try
[02:25] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: prolly need to add the key first. try this - sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <insertkeyhere>
[02:26] <plitter> is there a way to capture the video stream from skype?
[02:26] <vikasap> Moult: Nope...Doesnt work
[02:27] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: hopefully you understand the <insertkeyhere> bit .. no <> required
[02:27] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, what is the key that I am supposed to add?
[02:27] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, no I'm not sure what I'm supposed to put there
[02:27] <Moult> vikasap: does any other C-a command work? like C-a " or C-a w etc?
[02:27] <spridel> chemjeff, you need to create a gpg key
[02:27] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: is it not listed in the instructions your following?
[02:27] <Lustra> Hello - I just set up the ubuntu server. How do I gain access to root? I do not recall entering a password for root.
[02:28] <IdleOne> !root | Lustra
[02:28] <ardchoille> !sudo | Lustra we don't use the root account
[02:28] <vikasap> Moult: How do I do it ? Press "Ctrl" "a" and "w" together ?
[02:28] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, no, I'm following this web page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[02:28] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: lemme look
[02:28] <Lustra> thx
[02:28] <vikasap> Moult: Anyhow, all combinations seem not to work :)
[02:28] <Moult> vikasap: press ctrl and a together, release both of them, then press w afterwards. or you can do C-a ", which is press ctrl and a together, release both of them, then press " (that's shift ' )
[02:28] <chemjeff> spridel, how do I create a gpg key?  And is this the canonical.com key that I need to unlock the canonical repository?
[02:29] <chemjeff> spridel, the idea here is to add the canonical.com repository
[02:29] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: okay what step are you on?
[02:29] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, I am at "Add Extra Ubuntu Repositories"
[02:29] <velcroshoo> (on the howto)
[02:29] <velcroshoo> okay'
[02:30] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: you still there?
[02:30] <spridel> chemjeff: i'll let velcroshoo he seems to have a handle on what your doing
[02:30] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes
[02:30] <vikasap> Moult: No luck
[02:30] <Helsinkiii> how can i drag and select in ubuntu
[02:30] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: im having a bit of trouble with that tutorial
[02:30] <Helsinkiii> like..click and drag over an area that selects all the items
[02:30] <Helsinkiii> i want
[02:31] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Like what?
[02:32] <Moult> vikasap: try put into your .screenrc `escape ^x`
[02:32] <vikasap> Moult: Ctrl -l works pretty nicely for me ... All other Ctrl - d and Ctrl -c work for me
[02:32] <message144> Hi folks. For some reason I can't get sshd to run at startup. I followed these directions but still not luck: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ Any idea?
[02:32] <vikasap> Moult: with those ticks ?
[02:32] <Moult> vikasap: actually before that, try ctrl-a twice then c, or ctrl-a a c
[02:32] <Moult> vikasap: no, not with those ticks
[02:33] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: The part where it says "mount the rest of your devices" just gives me the error "mount point /mnt/dev does not exist", the "sudo chroot /mnt" command says "cannot run /bin/bash no such file or directory" and sudo update-grub just says "cannot find device for /"
[02:33] <Cyber_Akuma_2> havent tried goin farther
[02:33] <Cyber_Akuma_2> going*
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You mounted the wrong partition to /mnt
[02:33] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: i do not see a canonical address in the section your talking about. if your dealing with ubuntu, it should be an ubuntu.com address, not canonical
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You should have mounted your "/" partition to /mnt
[02:34] <vikasap> Moult: No luck with those
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: And if you have one your /boot partition to /mnt/boot
[02:34] <td123> message144: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[02:34] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, I don't see an address either, so how can I add the canonical archives?
[02:34] <Cyber_Akuma_2> oh damn, yeah, seems I mounted my windows partition instead
[02:34] <Moult> vikasap: what about the screenrc one?
[02:34] <Cyber_Akuma_2> how do I unmount it
[02:34] <vikasap> Moult: That did not work as well ...
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: sudo umount /mnt
[02:35] <dang3rou5> hi all
[02:35] <Moult> vikasap: right did you do C-x c after changing screenrc or did you keep on doing C-a c?
[02:35] <Cyber_Akuma_2> thanks, could have sworn it used to be unmount
[02:35] <vikasap> Moult: :D
[02:35] <message144> td123, i am well familiar with configuring sshd.. it is already configured properly and runs when manually executed. i just cant get it to run at startup
[02:35] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: you need to follow the section that says 'Adding repositories to synaptic package manager'
[02:36] <sofakng> what's the easiest way for me to try out kernel 2.6.32?  I want to try it under Hyper-V to see how well the linux integration components work...
[02:36] <chemjeff> velcroshoo I did that, and I added it to the package manager but I don't know how to include the key
[02:36] <dang3rou5> need help in getting my sound working again, aplay -l dosent work, but lsp grp does show the motherboard sound controller
[02:36] <Moult> vikasap: ?
[02:36] <vikasap> Moult: Doesnt work now
[02:36] <Moult> vikasap: which, C-x c?
[02:36] <vikasap> Moult: Yeah
[02:37] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: the part where it says "Now you need to edit the /etc/default/grub file to fit your system", do I need to do anything? Ubuntu installer should have configured that right?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You don't need to do anything there
[02:37] <Moult> vikasap: ok, try open up xterm and try screen with that
[02:37] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: thought so, thanks
[02:37] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: okay so your following me do you see the sub-heading 'Add repository keys'?
[02:38] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, yes
[02:38] <dang3rou5> !sound
[02:38] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: the update command says that there is no such directory in /proc/mountrs and that it can't find the list of partitions now
[02:38] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Sorry im being so problomeatic
[02:38] <vikasap> Moult: I did this : $xterm ... $screen
[02:38] <vikasap> And it got a new screen
[02:39] <vikasap> Moult: But the key bindings wont work
[02:39] <Moult> vikasap: run the command `xterm`. a new terminal will open up. in that terminal, run `screen`. then try C-x c
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You don't need to run update-grub
[02:40] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ok
[02:40] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, but I don't know what the key is for the canonical archive
[02:40] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: so now im at the custom command you told me to use?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes
[02:41] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: okay we want the bottom line that says - 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys KEY' then it says where KEY is the missing key code printed in apt-get output, e.g. EF4186FE247510BE. that may not be the correct key, you should try running apt-get for something specifically on that repository, and it should give you the key to input.
[02:41] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: grub-install --disk-module=ata /dev/sda
[02:41] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: then you just replace 'KEY' in the syntax with the correct key
[02:41] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Then you also need to run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and uncheck all of your drives
[02:42] <CppIsWeird> I've tried putting two different sata cards in a ubuntu box and it does not pick up either card. i do not even see in dmesg anything about the card. neither of the cards logos prompts during boot. this box did have an sata controller card in the past and used it just fine. any ideas?
[02:42] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: oops, I ran it at /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda, would it be ok if I re-ran the command with /dev/sda?
[02:42] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, well wait a minute, the package is actually installing but I didn't add any key
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: It should have complained and done nothing with /dev/sda2
[02:42] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, how can that be?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Unless you used -f
[02:44] <Moult> vikasap: if that still doesn't work i'm running out of ideas. sorry.
[02:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yeah, id didn't use -f, it said "installing grub to a partition instead of MBR, this is a BAD idea!"
[02:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> nice humor XD
[02:45] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: packages will install regardless of key .. the gpg key is just a proper way of verifying i guess to make it simple. i imagine even though its installing your getting key errors.
[02:45] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I ned to fix grub-pc first, I tried to update it and it failed, how do I undo my attempt to update it?
[02:45] <Cyber_Akuma_2> need*
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: What exactly did you do and what error are you getting?
[02:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Used the synaptic package manager to mark it for upgrade, but it failed because I didn't configure it at installtime
[02:47] <ries> hey all, how do I start Ubuntu in console mode ?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> ries: Hold shift at boot and choose "recovery mode"
[02:47] <Jordan_U> !boot | ries
[02:47] <ries> Jordan_U: what runlevel is that?
[02:47] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, okay I see the problem now - i was trying to install the adobe-flashplugin package from the canonical repository - I wasn't able to so I thought I needed a key - but it turns out the package is only available for 32 bit not 64 bit so I can't download it anyway
[02:47] <ries> 3?
[02:48] <cfedde> ries: if you want a console on a system that is up just hot alt-f1
[02:48] <Jordan_U> ries: recovery mode is 1, see the link from ubottu for how to prevent gdm from starting at boot
[02:48] <ries> ok, thanks
[02:48] <Jordan_U> ries: np
[02:49] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: ah okay. i believe 64 bit already comes with the adobe plugin, but i may be wrong
[02:49] <cfedde> ries: make that ctl-alt-f1
[02:49] <wapko> i use ubuntu 9.10 as a nas with samba shares. but i cannot ping or connect to my nas by using its hostname. ip works fine though. if i restart samba it works with hostname. but i need it to just work without having to login and restart samba manually. any ideas ?
[02:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: did I mess up?
[02:49] <chemjeff> velcroshoo, it does but it doesn't work right for me - I cannot play embedded flash videos in Firefox 3.5.5 - do you know if the 32 bit version will work?
[02:50] <chea> Hello. I am trying to mount a IMG file at /media/loop with the command: 'sudo mount -o loop /path/to/img /media/loop' And it keeps telling me that I need to "specify filesystem type". Could anyone elaborate on this please?
[02:50] <velcroshoo> chemjeff: i am really not a big flash user so i couldnt say. sorry.
[02:50] <chemjeff> ok thx
[02:50] <swearingworth> Hi
[02:50] <swearingworth> I just installed karmic koala
[02:50] <swearingworth> and when trying to run Blender 3D,
[02:51] <swearingworth> I am given the error "Segmentation fault"
[02:51] <swearingworth> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:52] <scunizi> swearingworth: did you install blender from the repos?
[02:52] <BenFrank> what is the very first thing one would do upon a fresh install to guard against mal...anything?  im tired of googling.  i want to ASK someone.
[02:52] <rivoot> swaj:
[02:52] <dukz> hi guys, how do you fix this apt-get update error?  The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:52] <swearingworth> Yeah.
[02:53] <rivoot> swearingworth: Looks like some vga drivers problem
[02:53] <Jordan_U> chea: What file system is it?
[02:53] <Jordan_U> chea: Just .img could mean almost anything
[02:53] <Snausages> BenFrank: I put together a virus removal boot disk, installed adblock into firefox and called it good
[02:53] <CppIsWeird> I've tried putting two different sata cards in a ubuntu box and it does not pick up either card. i do not even see in dmesg anything about the card. neither of the cards logos prompts during boot. this box did have an sata controller card in the past and used it just fine. any ideas?
[02:53] <scunizi> BenFrank: first thing is in a terminal.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... as far as protecting your machine.. not much.. windows viri and whatnot just doesn't work in linux
[02:53] <swearingworth> Ok. thanks..
[02:53] <chea> Jordan_U: I wouldn't know really. Is there any way to check this? Or should I resort to google..
[02:54] <Jordan_U> chea: Try "file /path/to/file.img". Where did the image come from?
[02:54] <Snausages> BenFrank: yeah there aren't so many bugs that can get you, but you still need to look out for browser attacks, flash security holes etc...  all depends on what you add and use
[02:54] <ardchoille> BenFrank: Here is a nice explanation about Linux and viruses: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/02/linux-and-viruses.html
[02:55] <chea> Jordan_U: Not sure if I am at liberty to say with channel regulations..
[02:55] <chea> Jordan_U: I did a file check on the img, and it said "data".
[02:55] <BenFrank> scunizi and Snausages, if i could past to you what i have discussed elswhere, you would see how i have a reason to believe it could not be that simple
[02:55] <BenFrank> but if you say that, i will do that
[02:56] <BenFrank> ardchoille: i will read that .  thank you
[02:56] <IdeAlEss> okay, I think I am proving how little I know here.  I am trying to setup a shared directory on my Ubuntu 9.10 system and have it mounted at boot on my laptop (also ubuntu 9.10)  I can't get the fstab to mount the share.  I keep getting an error about needing a helper app.  What am I missing?
[02:56] <BenFrank> if i will be doing alot of talking and file transfering on irc
[02:56] <BenFrank> then what
[02:56] <Jordan_U> chea: Is it an image of a video DVD?
[02:56] <chea> Jordan_U: It's a game.
[02:56] <ardchoille> BenFrank: That article I linked will answer a lot of your questions
[02:57] <mbeierl> Anyone have any recommendation on how to speed up CD ripping?  I'm getting 2x in Rhythmbox Karmic
[02:57] <BenFrank> i just wish i could download all this information into my brain
[02:57] <scunizi> mbeierl: ripperx
[02:57] <ardchoille> BenFrank: you can.. by reading :)
[02:57] <BenFrank> ok, ardchoille.  thank you for your guidance
[02:57] <ardchoille> yw
[02:58] <BenFrank> i have gathered enough infor for a few hours of research
[02:58] <BenFrank> see ya in a little bit
[02:58] <mbeierl> scunizi: ripperx isn't working with cddb for me, and it's reporting that it's going slow too for some reason...
[02:58] <scunizi> BenFrank: it's a steep learning curve in the beginning but then you level out until you discover some new project to tackel .. like a web server, ftp.. streaming a/v server etc.
[02:58] <velcroshoo> mbeierl: its POSSIBLE, and i meant the caps, that dma is not turned on, especially if its an older drive. man hdparm
[02:58] <scunizi> mbeierl: maybe amorak ... it's kde but liked by many
[02:59] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: so did I mess up? or can I fix this?
[02:59] <mbeierl> velcroshoo:  newer laptop / built in cd drive - will check :)
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: What exactly did you do and what error are you getting?
[02:59] <velcroshoo> mbeierl: then my guess is thats not it but at least your aware
[02:59] <mbeierl> velcroshoo: thanks!
[03:01] <mbeierl> velcroshoo: HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device ... it's /dev/sr0, so I think it might be sdparm that I need now...
[03:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> I tried to update grub-pc through synaptic package manager
[03:01] <BenFrank> scunizi:i should have done this long ago (five years linux, no years windows)...i have lot of reading to do, and you guys have set me on a new path.  i hope to contribute and be a good mentor like the people i ran into today.  have a great holiday, everybody
[03:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> its saying that the package is broken or not fully installed now
[03:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> how can I undo it?
[03:01] <sofakng> what's the easiest way for me to try out kernel 2.6.32?  I want to try it under Hyper-V to see how well the linux integration components work...
[03:02] <mcurran> download the source from kernel.org and do make oldconfig from the source directory
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Please include me nick so I don't miss your messages
[03:02] <mcurran> I tried make menuconfig, but it has some dependency I had trouble getting
[03:03] <mbeierl> ooo.  ripperx is reporting total time remaining for the cd is 390 minutes... That's got to be wrong
[03:03] <mcurran> Does anybody know if grub2-efi bootloader works, or do you still need to use refit on a HFS partition to get a live usb working on a MAC
[03:04] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: sorry, I tried to update grub-pc through synaptic package manager, its saying that the package is broken or not fully installed now, how can I undo my update attempt?
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: In another shell ( another terminal window ) run "sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" "sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys"
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: From the LiveCD?
[03:05] <chea> Jordan_U: Think I fixed it, thanks for the help!
[03:05] <Jordan_U> chea: np
[03:05] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yeah, I tried to update it on the livecd
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Synaptic on the LiveCD doesn't change anything since the Live System is running in RAM
[03:06] <Cyber_Akuma_2> yeah I know, it only tried to update it in memory
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: We are using the grub installed to your hard drive so the grub installed on the LiveCD doesn't matter
[03:06] <Cyber_Akuma_2> oh
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Still run the two commands I gave you
[03:06] <Cyber_Akuma_2> I undid the chmod thing
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You mean chroot?
[03:07] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yeah, it said to use control+d to exit
[03:08] <message144> How do I view the logs of my init/startup process so I can see why one of my startup scripts is not properly executing?
[03:08] <mbeierl> Anyone know if there is a way to modify the cdparanoia settings for rhythmbox?  I can't get ripperx to look up tracks in cddb for me :(
[03:08] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: so I should re-run those first two mount commands then teh chroot command?
[03:08] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: and then type the command you gave me?
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: run "sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" "sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys" then chroot again
[03:11] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I unmounted everything though
[03:12] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Then mount everything including the two new mount commands I gave then chroot again
[03:12] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ok
[03:13] <mbeierl> Or anyone familiar with ripperx and cddb?
[03:14] <PhantomZen> Ok I installed ubuntu but I cannot get the broadcom wireless adapter on my HP Tx2z to work what can I do? I am dual booting with win7 and it works under win7
[03:14] <Ben64_Lappy> why do i have to register to get in here now
[03:15] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: ok, an installer came up, I run the dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc command, its asking me ot verify the command I used
[03:15] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I was supposed to run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc while chrooted right?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes, keep the default answers for everything but what drive to install to, for that uncheck everything
[03:18] <Ben64_Lappy> i have karmic on my laptop, how can i make the cpu scaling go to performance on boot, ondemand sucks
[03:18] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: keep the version locally modified?
[03:18] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: sorry, i mean locally installed
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Depends on what file and why you changed it
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Most likely you want to keep the local version
[03:19] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I didnt make any changes myself, if there were changes, the ubuntu installer made them
[03:20] <wapko_> i use 9.10 on my nas. i cannot connect via hostname unless i manually log in and restart samba after boot. connecting wia ip works fine. how can i fix this ?
[03:20] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: ok, so im at the part where its asking me what drive to install to, its only listing a single drive, "/dev/sda" im supposed to make sure this is UNchecked?
[03:21] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes
[03:21] <ryan-c> anacron has stopped running jobs on my 8.04 LTS system.  I tried reinstalling it, but that didn't fix the problem.  Anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[03:21] <dang3rou5> hi there, how to find out if my system is i386 or i686 ???
[03:21] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: ok, though im confused where it would be installing to then
[03:21] <Cyber_Akuma_2> done
[03:21] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5: system, or OS?
[03:21] <Cyber_Akuma_2> heres hoping it works when i reboot
[03:21] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: no
[03:22] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: You need to run grub-install first
[03:22] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ok
[03:22] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: run grub install while still in chroot?
[03:22] <dang3rou5> Ben64, my system meaning hardware, i have installed i686 i think i was suppose to install i386, i dont know the difference ??
[03:22] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Yes, "grub-install --disk-module=ata /dev/sda"
[03:23] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5, if you have a pentium or better, i686 would work
[03:23] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I did that command before I did the grub-update one
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Ok, then yes try rebooting
[03:23] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: ARGH, sorry sorry, I meant I did it before I did the reconfigure command
[03:24] <dang3rou5> Ben64, my laptop is two year old it is intel celeron MMx
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: same
[03:24] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ok
[03:24] <IdeAlEss> I can't get my smb share to mount through fstab.  Error says I need a helper program?
[03:24] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5, you sure? "Intel Celeron MMx" sounds old. What speed is it?
[03:25] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5, actually, give me the model of the laptop
[03:25] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: huh......, now it just says "GRUB loading." and stays there
[03:25] <yusuf> hi
[03:25] <dang3rou5> Ben64, Acer TravelMate 2303NLC, 1.5 Ghz, 400Mhz something
[03:26] <jasonmchristos> i have two user accounts and i use encrypted home directory my goal is to use ubuntu one to backup the entire home directory in encrypted form so when i log in to the other user account how would i have to set permissions to do this, and how would i restore the file
[03:26] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Do you still have a separate /boot partition?
[03:26] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5, thats the model of the battery :)
[03:26] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: no, but the boot screen JUST came up..... but my keyboard isn't responding now
[03:26] <yusuf> How can i know which partition -sda1, sda2,.. - my Operation system install?
[03:27] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: it seems to be working, but theres a few issues, first of all it sets my screen out of rance (until I turn it off and back on) and it also dosen't accept keyboard input...
[03:27] <dang3rou5> Ben64, this is what i know Company ::Acer , Model :: TravelMate 2303NLC
[03:27] <Cyber_Akuma_2> range*
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Is it booting successfully now?
[03:28] <yusuf> How can i know which partition -sda1, sda2,.. - my Operation system install?
[03:28] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yes, to ubuntu at least, didn't try windows yet because I can't change anything in the menu
[03:28] <Ben64_Lappy> dang3rou5, i686 is fine for that
[03:28] <dang3rou5> Ben64, thnx
[03:29] <Jordan_U> yusuf: If you are booted into the system then "mount" and look at what device is used for /
[03:29] <yusuf> what can i type in Terminal?
[03:29] <_Pb> i can only get into failsafe gnome, can someone take a look at my xsession-errors log and see if they can tell what's going on? http://pastie.org/715641
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Try holding shift during boot
[03:29] <scunizi> yusuf: / is where your system lives.. /home if you have a seperate partition for that is where all your personal data lives.
[03:29] <scunizi> yusuf: mount
[03:30] <jasonmchristos> my goal is to use ubuntu one to backup the entire home directory in encrypted form. i have two user accounts and i use encrypted home directory  one is a priveledged user and the other account is unprivledged (the one thst i am backing up) so when i log into the priveledged account the other users home directory will be contained in one encrypted file. so when i log in to the priveledged account how would i have to set permissions to do this, and
[03:30] <jasonmchristos>  how would i restore the file?
[03:30] <yusuf> my system setup in c:
[03:30] <scunizi> yusuf: maybe your windows system.. but not your linux system..
[03:30] <scunizi> yusuf: unless you installed with wubi.. did you do that?
[03:31] <yusuf>  i install Ubuntu
[03:31] <scunizi> using wubi? or did you partition your drive for a true dual boot?
[03:31] <yusuf> First i installed Windows than i installed Ubunut
[03:31] <genii> scunizi: It's like painfully pulling teeth
[03:31] <yusuf> not using Wubi , i used iso CD
[03:31] <scunizi> yusuf: k.. then type.. mount .. in terminal
[03:32] <yusuf> i typed mount there
[03:32] <yusuf> it disappear many thing
[03:32] <wapko_> i use 9.10 on my nas. i cannot connect via hostname unless i manually log in and restart samba after boot. connecting wia ip works fine. how can i fix this ?
[03:32] <scunizi> genii: no kidding
[03:32] <scunizi> yusuf: try .. fdisk -l
[03:32] <yusuf> ok
[03:32] <yusuf> i m trying
[03:33] <yusuf>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:33] <yusuf> /dev/sda1               1         192     1536000   27  Unknown
[03:33] <yusuf> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[03:33] <yusuf> /dev/sda2   *         192        8126    63733756    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:33] <yusuf> /dev/sda3            8126       12048    31500726    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:33] <yusuf> /dev/sda4           12049       14594    20443737+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[03:33] <FloodBot4> yusuf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <Ben64_Lappy> yusuf, "df | grep -e /$ | egrep ^........."
[03:33] <yusuf> i dont understand you Ben64
[03:34] <Ben64_Lappy> type that
[03:34] <yusuf> where in Terminal?
[03:34] <Ben64_Lappy> yes
[03:34] <yusuf> ok
[03:34] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: ill try holding shift as soon as ubuntu is done updating, do I hold it during port or when grub comes up?
[03:38] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[03:40] <Duergar> whats with the big poof?
[03:40] <yusuf> how can i know where is Windows installed?
[03:40] <Jordan_U> yusuf: "sudo os-prober"
[03:40] <yusuf> ok Jordan
[03:40] <IdeAlEss> I am trying to set up a user mountable cifs share to mount at boot using fstab.  It says only root can do it but I have the user option in fstab.
[03:41] <BenFrank> what is a netsplit?
[03:41] <BenFrank> did we just go through one?
[03:41] <RickJames> how do i set up xastir to use a pharos gps-500 ?
[03:41] <yusuf> Jordan: thanks
[03:41] <Jordan_U> !netsplit > RickJames
[03:41] <Taim> BenFrank: Yep.
[03:41] <BenFrank> ah
[03:41] <ctmjr> !netsplit
[03:41] <RickJames> Jordan_U, i KNOW what a netsplit is
[03:41] <smacktalk> :-D i did it!....I'm registered
[03:42] <scunizi> RickJames: he typed your nick by mistake..
[03:42] <jasonmchristos> my goal is to use ubuntu one to backup the entire home directory in encrypted form. i have two user accounts and i use encrypted home directory  one is a priveledged user and the other account is unprivledged (the one thst i am backing up) so when i log into the priveledged account the other users home directory will be contained in one encrypted file. so when i log in to the priveledged account how would i have to set permissions to do this, and
[03:42] <jasonmchristos>  how would i restore the file?
[03:42] <hdon> /usr/lib/googleearth/googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/googleearth/libssl.so.0.9.8: undefined symbol: EVP_idea_cbc
[03:42] <BenFrank> wow!  i have never actually seen one
[03:42] <RickJames> !gps
[03:43] <Jordan_U> RickJames: Sorry, confused "R" with "B" and tab completion did the rest :)
[03:43] <RickJames> !Roadnav
[03:43] <hdon> RickJames: thanks, maybe i'll take a look at those other two
[03:43] <RickJames> hdon ?
[03:44] <yusuf> How can i format Windows on Ubuntu system?
[03:45] <chris231989> gparted
[03:45] <RickJames> how do i set up xastir to use a pharos gps-500 ?
[03:47] <yusuf> How can i format Windows on Ubuntu system?
[03:47] <mbeierl> Ok. ripperx is working with cddb for me now.  Had to change to use the cddb protocol instead of http :)
[03:48] <scunizi> mbeierl: is it faster?
[03:48] <Archanamiya> can I ask a question about PyGTK?
[03:48] <mbeierl> scunizi: yes, with just cdparanoia turned off, not with extra turned off.  Don't know why that would be
[03:48] <mbeierl> scunizi: but now the bottleneck is the cpu on encoding :)
[03:49] <yusuf> How can i format Windows on Ubuntu system?
[03:49] <scunizi> mbeierl: always comes down to something or other :)
[03:49] <Archanamiya> I've made a GUI in Glade, but when I use it with Python, the resulting window squishes the widgets together (as opposed to how it looked in the Glade window). How can I fix this?
[03:49] <RickJames> !xastir
[03:49] <yusuf> How can i format Windows on Ubuntu system?
[03:49] <IdleOne> yusuf: gparted
[03:49] <mbeierl> !repeat
[03:50] <mbeierl> yusuf: are you asking how to format an NTFS filesystem or what do you mean?
[03:50] <PhantomZen> Ok I installed ubuntu but I cannot get the broadcom wireless adapter on my HP Tx2z to work what can I do? I am dual booting with win7 and it works under win7
[03:50] <Archanamiya> I've made a GUI in Glade, but when I use it with Python, the resulting window squishes the widgets together (as opposed to how it looked in the Glade window). How can I fix this?
[03:50] <VaultDweller> So like, I want to install KDE (generic), in Ubuntu 9.10
[03:50] <VaultDweller> but for some reason, I can only download kubuntu-desktop, which makes my Ubuntu distro, a regular old Kubuntu one
[03:50] <Archanamiya> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:50] <RickJames> i'd just be happy with getting my gps to work
[03:50] <scunizi> !wireless | PhantomZen not sure if they are current though
[03:50] <Archanamiya> ohhh
[03:50] <mbeierl> PhantomZen: did you check using restricted drivers manager while connected with wired connection?
[03:50] <VaultDweller> I want the generic KDE
[03:51] <Archanamiya> erm
[03:51] <yusuf> IdleOne: gparted commend not found
[03:51] <Archanamiya> yusuf: download from their site
[03:51] <IdleOne> !gparted | yusuf
[03:51] <VaultDweller> Not the Kubuntu branded
[03:51] <Archanamiya> yusuf: erm
[03:51] <Archanamiya> yusuf: try sudo apt-get install kde
[03:51] <Archanamiya> yusuf: or, try sudo apt-get install kde4
[03:51] <IdleOne> Archanamiya: wrong person
[03:51] <PhantomZen> mbeierl: no how do I do that?
[03:51] <VaultDweller> :P
[03:51] <Archanamiya> oops
[03:51] <IdleOne> yusuf: forget that kde command
[03:51] <VaultDweller> You mean me? :P
[03:51] <Archanamiya> sorry :P
[03:51] <mbeierl> PhantomZen: you have a wired connection?
[03:52] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: try those. no guarantees. ;)
[03:52] <ries> cfedde: ctrl-alt-f1 didn't work for me... and no text mode only runlevels, I simply removed GDM
[03:52] <RickJames> is there a channel for program specific help ?
[03:52] <VaultDweller> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[03:52] <VaultDweller> james@james-ubuntu:~$
[03:52] <VaultDweller> Couldn't find package kde4
[03:52] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: sudo apt-get install kde will work
[03:52] <Archanamiya> yeah
[03:52] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: sudo apt-get install kde
[03:52] <mbeierl> PhantomZen: plug in to a wired connection and under System -> Administration, there is an entry for "Hardware Drivers"  Launch that program
[03:52] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: my bad
[03:53] <PhantomZen> ok
[03:53] <scunizi> VaultDweller: open synaptic and search for kde
[03:53] <Archanamiya> sudo apt-get install kde works fine for me
[03:53] <PhantomZen> I will try that
[03:53] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: keep in mind whatever the method, it'll probably be a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG installation
[03:54] <VaultDweller> well see
[03:54] <VaultDweller> I'm running karmic
[03:54] <Archanamiya> I've made a GUI in Glade, but when I use it with Python, the resulting window squishes the widgets together (as opposed to how it looked in the Glade window). How can I fix this?
[03:54] <Zzarkc> I've had a wireless connection problem the last few days, with no avail to fixing it. I am running 9.10. I am using a WUSB54G USB Adapter, and trying to connect to an Airport Extreme Base station with WPA2 Security. I can see the network, but it won't actually connect. Any Ideas?
[03:54] <mbeierl> Actually first do an update using the Update Manager, just to make sure the hardware drivers detection is the most recent possible
[03:54] <VaultDweller> and I'm using plain ol' Ubuntu
[03:54] <VaultDweller> :|
[03:54] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: that shouldnt make a difference...
[03:55] <Archanamiya> when ur done
[03:55] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: holding down shift worked, but grub still causesmy display to go out of range and takes about 1-2 minutes at the "grub loading" screen until it loads
[03:55] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: you should only have to type startkde
[03:55] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: and that SHOULD take care of it
[03:55] <Archanamiya> VaultDweller: if i'm correct
[03:56] <Archanamiya> Anyone here familiar with Python and GTK?
[03:56] <scunizi> VaultDweller: or on the login screen change "sessions" to kde4
[03:56] <_Pb> can someone help me? i can only log in using gnome failsafe mode
[03:56] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Can you give more details please?
[03:56] <RickJames> is there a way to poll a serial to usb device to see which com port it's been assigned?
[03:57] <scunizi> RickJames: are you plugging the thing into a usb port or a db9/25
[03:57] <_Pb> Archanamiya: i fiddled with my xorg.conf and installed a few different window managers
[03:57] <_Pb> this is my .xsession-errors file: http://pastie.org/715641
[03:57] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Crap. Do you have a live CD?
[03:57] <RickJames> scunizi,  it's a usb serial adapter, but it's a usb device
[03:57] <_Pb> yes
[03:57] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Good
[03:57] <RickJames> i'm sorry, it's a gps.
[03:58] <Zzarkc> Is anyone on here familiar with Wireless netowrking? please, i've spent 2 days on here trying to get help, and I've only had 1 person try to help.
[03:58] <Frappy> evening all :)
[03:58] <VaultDweller> I havent installed KDE
[03:58] <VaultDweller> But I found out I need kdebase
[03:58] <VaultDweller> :P
[03:58] <VaultDweller> let me grab zat
[03:58] <FloodBot3> VaultDweller: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <RickJames> pharos gps-500 uses a serial interface to usb adapter to connect to the computer
[03:58] <VaultDweller> How did I flood?
[03:58] <Archanamiya> _Pb: ON SHI-. That's an epic error file :P
[03:58] <VaultDweller> :|
[03:58] <_Pb> really? agh
[03:58] <RickJames> Zzarkc,  ndswrapper ?
[03:58] <_Pb> i've been reading ubuntu forum posts, apparently people with ATI cards have been having the same problems
[03:58] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Define "several windows managers"
[03:59] <_Pb> the thing is, I'm using an NVIDIA card
[03:59] <Archanamiya> ohhh
[03:59] <scunizi> RickJames: first open a terminal and type dmesg.. take a look at the last 10 line or so.. then plug in the device complete with what you want to attach to it.. repeat the command dmesg.. you should see the system recognize it and report on the port..
[03:59] <Frappy> anyone have experience with multiple desktops and the login window?  I have one last issue before I consider my machine "complete" :)
[03:59] <Zzarkc> RickJames For some reason I can't get it installed. It keeps giving me "Dependency not satisfied" error.
[03:59] <venger> RickJames, did you try something like dmesg | grep tty or setserial -g /dev/ttyS* ?
[03:59] <_Pb> Archanamiya: dwm, wmii, blackbox, i used gnome-settings-daemon to change blackbox to default
[03:59] <Archanamiya> Blackbox
[03:59] <_Pb> that's the last thing i did before it started breaking
[03:59] <Archanamiya> hmm
[03:59] <Archanamiya> metacity --replace
[03:59] <_Pb> ok
[03:59] <Archanamiya> did you uninstall anything?
[04:00] <_Pb> no
[04:00] <Archanamiya> good
[04:00] <Archanamiya> try that command
[04:00] <FloodBot3> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <_Pb> just did
[04:00] <Archanamiya> nothing?
[04:00] <_Pb> should i log out and back in?
[04:00] <Archanamiya> erm
[04:00] <Archanamiya> yeah
[04:00] <_Pb> something happened on the screen, it flickered
[04:00] <_Pb> how can i check if i'm still in failsafe-mode/
[04:00] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Try restarting
[04:00] <_Pb> ok
[04:00] <_Pb> be back then
[04:00] <Archanamiya> k
[04:00] <_Pb> thanks a lot!
[04:01] <Archanamiya> np
[04:01] <Archanamiya> hope it works
[04:01] <Archanamiya> Now then, I've made a GUI in Glade, but when I use it with Python, the resulting window squishes the widgets together (as opposed to how it looked in the Glade window). How can I fix this?
[04:02] <RickJames> scunizi, that you, that was EXACTLY what i needed
[04:02] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0, but they both work independently?? (i am not talking about bridging)
[04:02] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: are you packing the widgets correctly?
[04:02] <jasonmchristos> comments are welcomed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8388430#post8388430
[04:02] <scunizi> RickJames: it was the only way I could figure out what port my usb fax modem was plugged into
[04:03] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: I'm not entirely sure. I don't appear to have done anything wrong. :S
[04:03] <Frappy> how do I change the position of the login screen (upon booting) so that it is not on monitor "1" but on monitor "0"?  That's the only screen that flips and I'm using nVidia's drivers in the TwinView configuration...
[04:03] <Zzarkc> I've had a wireless connection problem the last few days, with no avail to fixing it. I am running 9.10. I am using a WUSB54G USB Adapter, and trying to connect to an Airport Extreme Base station with WPA2 Security. I can see the network, but it won't actually connect. Any Ideas? Please, I'm starting to get desperate.
[04:03] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: I've used the vbox and hboxes, but still, the window seems to be trying to be as small as possible
[04:03] <RickJames> scunizi, it took right off working. now i've got to figure out how to make another usb to serial device work. it's a belkin serial adpater, but for now, one thing at a time
[04:04] <_Pb> Archanamiya: nope, still have to boot in failsafe-gnome
[04:04] <Archanamiya> _Pb: DAMN
[04:04] <Archanamiya> _Pb: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <_Pb> ok
[04:04] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Make sure you have everything
[04:04] <scunizi> Zzarkc: might just be the Airport Extreme.. they don't have that great of a rep..
[04:04] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Though I'm really at a lose for what to do. :S
[04:04] <_Pb> Archanamiya: it's ok
[04:04] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: set the default window width and height in the Widget tab in the Properties window?
[04:04] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Is there any way to change the videomode that grub2 uses? Its causing some problems with my monitor.
[04:05] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: I suppose. odd it can't automatically resize itself
[04:05] <_Pb> Archanamiya: i read a suggestion to make a new user and login as that, but i can't create a new user now
[04:05] <Archanamiya> oh well
[04:05] <Zzarkc> scunizi I had been able to connect about 3 versions ago. I don't know why I can't connect now though.
[04:05] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Why not?
[04:05] <_Pb> yeah, everything is installed
[04:05] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: Also see the Resizable option
[04:05] <Archanamiya> what about it?
[04:05] <Archanamiya> _Pb: You could use the adduser
[04:05] <_Pb> Archanamiya: i click on the keys to make changes, but no dialog comes up asking me for a password
[04:05] <_Pb> that's true
[04:05] <scunizi> Zzarkc: you can try what I do.. turn off all encryption on the wireless and connect.. then restrict access to the wireless by mac address and also turn off ssid broadcast
[04:05] <Archanamiya> _Pb: What keys?
[04:06] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: What about it?
[04:06] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: just a thought
[04:06] <_Pb> the ones that are like "click here to make changes"
[04:06] <Archanamiya> _Pb: You're using synaptic?
[04:06] <Stanto> Hello; I am installing Ubuntu 9 into a VMWare environment from the CD ISO on the website. However, it gets to the orange background and appears to hang there, I still have mouse input but no GUI elements have appeared. What are my options for diagnosis please? Thanks.
[04:06] <_Pb> Archanamiya: yes
[04:06] <Archanamiya> _Pb: Use the command line
[04:07] <scunizi> Stanto: switch to virtualbox.. ?
[04:07] <_Pb> you mean apt-get or adduser?
[04:07] <_Pb> i did both
[04:07] <Archanamiya> apt-get
[04:07] <Archanamiya> ohhhh
[04:07] <_Pb> oh, yeah, i used that
[04:07] <_Pb> it's all updated
[04:07] <_Pb> brb gonna see if i can login as the new user
[04:07] <Zzarkc> scunizi: Alright I can attempt that. Do you happen to know where I could try downloading ndiswrapper, because I can't find a working package for it. I used that before and it worked, but Ic an't find it for Karmic.
[04:07] <Archanamiya> _Pb: k
[04:08] <Shwack> What does it mean if when starting my computer and choosing Ubuntu , it just goes to a Grub screen with nothing available?
[04:09] <scunizi> Zzarkc: might not be available with the different underlying systems in karmac.. there's bound to be something out there on the net about wpa2 w/ tpik or similar.. it's never been the easiest to implement
[04:09] <Zzarkc> scunizi Alright. Thanks! I'll keep looking for something then.
[04:10] <allin> hi
[04:10] <Archanamiya> hi
[04:11] <RickJames> low
[04:11] <RickJames> :)
[04:12] <IdeAlEss> still having cifs issues.  I have a shared directory but can't write to it from remote pc.  Using the same user on both with the cifs credentials.
[04:13] <Archanamiya> farbuu
[04:13] <Archanamiya> o_O
[04:14] <Hilikus> ys
[04:14] <Archanamiya> ys?
[04:14] <Frappy> dang libnotify...
[04:15] <smacktalk> RickJames: get it working yet?
[04:15] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: setting the width and height worked, thanks
[04:15] <RickJames> smacktalk,  yes. dmesg tokd me where it was, after setting up the correct com port, it worked right off the bat
[04:15] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: yw
[04:15] <RickJames> i'm serioulsy in love with 9.10
[04:15] <Archanamiya> who isnt
[04:16] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: Why doesn't it resize by default though? =/
[04:16] <allin> i got big problem. I install ubuntu 9.10 under windows 7 using wubi. yestoday i updated ubuntu. After i restarted, i cannot boot ubuntu. it said "try(hd0,0)ntfs5" then goto GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4. I try to boot it manually, it works. But when I restart, I need to boot it manually again. I try commend: sudo update-grub, but it still doesn't work. Anyone can help me?
[04:16] <RickJames> once the bugs with flashplayer get worked out, it'll be more awesomer than winbloez
[04:16] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: because there are no "default" width and height set
[04:17] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: That's quite inconvenient. Now I have to go and figure out exactly how big I want the window to be. Is there no other way?
[04:17] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: There may be other ways but I haven't found them yet
[04:17] <Archanamiya> k
[04:18] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: it all has to do with the way the widgets are packed
[04:18] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: Elaborate...
[04:18] <Archanamiya> plz
[04:18] <ardchoille> Archanamiya: this topic is probably better in another channel as we're straying off normal support
[04:19] <osman> hi im using ubuntu 9.10 well sometimes when im playing the sound stop playing
[04:19] <Shwack> osman what fixes it
[04:20] <cablop> hello ubuntu people
[04:20] <cablop> i just have a simple question
[04:20] <osman> i wanna know how to fix that
[04:21] <Shwack> osman you said sometimes which leads me to think that it has happened more than once. meaning you got it back somehow
[04:21] <scunizi> !as| cablop
[04:21] <cablop> i want to install an Ubuntu inside a VirtualBox but keeping it as light as possible, any suggestion?
[04:21] <[none]> could anyone tell me, are .nfo files those self starting files for dvds or cds that only work on windows?
[04:21] <Archanamiya> ardchoille: What channel?
[04:21] <scunizi> cablop: use xubuntu then
[04:22] <osman> yea well sound is good but sound in game that is the thing and is not in only one game
[04:22] <napster> Anyone know a vuze repository.....?
[04:22] <osman> sound stop playing in game no in the os
[04:22] <cablop> xubuntu... i have one with Gnome, and i just turn the GDM down :P so i can't run just the GUI when needed, i wonder about the services and so on
[04:22] <Shwack> osman which games
[04:23] <cablop> i mean i can run the GUI when i want, sorry
[04:23] <Archanamiya> napster: https://launchpad.net/~smaioli/+archive
[04:23] <scunizi> cablop: installing ubuntu will give you the whole system.. it will be up to you to lighten it up after install.
[04:23] <osman> nexuiz urbanterror quakelive savage 2
[04:23]  * centHOGG black friday
[04:23] <allin> anyone saw my question? plz, emergency
[04:23] <[none]> could anyone tell me, are .nfo files those self starting files for dvds or cds that only work on windows?
[04:23] <Archanamiya> allin: repeat. i'd be glad to help :D
[04:23] <cablop> in fact i have an old ubuntu there, i want to lighten it
[04:23] <napster> Archanamiya: Ty :)
[04:23] <Archanamiya> napster: np :)
[04:24] <allin>  i got big problem. I install ubuntu 9.10 under windows 7 using wubi. yestoday i updated ubuntu. After i restarted, i cannot boot ubuntu. it said "try(hd0,0)ntfs5" then goto GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4. I try to boot it manually, it works. But when I restart, I need to boot it manually again. I try commend: sudo update-grub, but it still doesn't work. Anyone can help me?
[04:24] <cablop> i don't want to install it again, cause i have some mysql and postgresql and svn things there
[04:24] <Archanamiya> allin: gimme a sec
[04:24] <handoko> hi there any body know using haier ce 100 in karmic koala
[04:24] <yowshi> i am having issues with ubuntu 9.10
[04:24] <yowshi> i just installed it on my laptop and i cant get empathy working
[04:24] <cablop> yowshi: ebevryone had issues with any ubuntu flavour :P
[04:25] <Barridus> argh, anyone know how to restore the menu bar in firefox 3.5?   it just vanished.  (and i'm not fullscreen either)\
[04:25] <handoko> yowshi: fresh installation or upgrade?
[04:25] <allin> i'll. thank you Ar
[04:25] <yowshi> handoko: fresh off wubi
[04:25] <Shwack> osman so all of these games are linux native and the sound stops working in them but the os sound remains working?
[04:25] <yowshi> handoko: i can google but i cant get empathy to connect to irc.freenode.net
[04:26] <[none]> could anyone tell me, are .nfo files those self starting files for dvds or cds that only work on windows?
[04:26] <handoko> yowshi : install with windows os or just ubuntu
[04:26] <cablop> is it my impression or is it real than there's an option to install ubuntu inside VMs now?
[04:26] <osman> yea
[04:26] <Archanamiya> allin: 1.  Install all the updates for Ubuntu
[04:26] <yowshi> handoko: i installed through wubi so from the windows os yes
[04:27] <Archanamiya> allin: After installing the updates when the system asks you to reboot don't do it. Go to the Terminal (Applications/Accessories/Terminal)
[04:27] <Archanamiya> allin: 3. In the Terminal write: sudo update-grub2 (press enter and write your password if required)
[04:27] <cablop> osman: that was an answer to...
[04:27] <Archanamiya> allin: Then restart
[04:27] <yowshi> handoko: also i cant figure out how to get the software center to actually install something
[04:27] <yowshi> handoko: otherwise i would be using pidgin
[04:27] <K4k> Anyone know of a good web design program? Something similar to DreamWeaver possibly, not expecting all the same functionality, just a nice web coding IDE with a page preview feature or something?
[04:27] <allin> but my system is uptodate now
[04:27] <Archanamiya> k4k: is good
[04:27] <Archanamiya> k4k: BLuefish
[04:27] <allin> i can't update
[04:27] <Archanamiya> k4k: Komodo Edit is nice too
[04:28] <Archanamiya> allin: why not?
[04:28] <cablop> K4k: try Apatana, Try Eclipse with php or pdt or jee plugins
[04:28] <osman> I use mumble when i play but my game sound stop but mumble still work that happens all the time
[04:28] <Archanamiya> Eclipse is nice. Komodo is my personal preference
[04:28] <cablop> K4k: also you can try netbeans
[04:28] <allin> u mean through update manager?
[04:28] <K4k> Archanamiya and cablop, thank you for your suggestions, I'll look into them.
[04:28] <Archanamiya> k
[04:28] <cablop> ^^
[04:28] <Archanamiya> allin: No. use a terminal
[04:28] <Archanamiya> allin: and type
[04:28] <khensthoth> yowshi: What's your problem with the software center? You could try installing Pidgin through the terminal or through Synaptic Package Manager too.
[04:28] <allin> i got it:)
[04:29] <handoko> yowshi. i think using xchat preferable if wanna enter irx
[04:29] <allin> trying now
[04:29] <Archanamiya> allin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:29] <Archanamiya> allin: oh k
[04:29] <cablop> yowshi: also schatzilla is another alternative
[04:29] <Archanamiya> chatzilla is pretty nie
[04:29] <Archanamiya> I personally use XChat
[04:29] <K4k> Archanamiya, is there a deb package for komodo?
[04:29]  * centHOGG xchat
[04:29] <cablop> yowshi: sorry, chatzilla for seamonkey or firefox
[04:29] <Archanamiya> K4k: no
[04:29] <Archanamiya> k4k: gimme a minute
[04:29] <yowshi> khensthoth: i cant figure out how to get it to install something. and i tried installing via the terminal but it says not asvilable or taken out by libpurple0 which is already installed
[04:29] <Archanamiya> k4k: i gotta link
[04:29] <K4k> Archanamiya, I'll look it up, thanks
[04:30] <K4k> Archanamiya, o, ok
[04:30] <Archanamiya> k4K: http://www.activestate.com/komodo_edit/
[04:30] <Archanamiya> :d
[04:30] <yowshi> cablop: yeah but i like a programme which incorporates all my im's and irc needs
[04:30] <yowshi> cablop: and i know pidgin
[04:30] <cablop> K4k: you can look for kompozer for wysiwyg, but it is somwhow buggy
[04:30] <qba> Hi - need help loging into my ubuntu desktop - after entering password login screen shows up again instead of gnome desktop
[04:30] <K4k> cablop, I've tried kompozer, it's a little sloppy IMHO
[04:30] <Archanamiya> yeah
[04:30] <Archanamiya> K4k: one nice thing about Komodo
[04:31] <K4k> Archanamiya, does komodo have page preview?
[04:31] <Archanamiya> erm
[04:31] <cablop> yowshi: i was in that way too... then after too much try, i decided to go for many ims at the same time XD
[04:31] <djungelkraem> anyone running EVE online through wine?
[04:31] <Archanamiya> i dont think so D:
[04:31] <Archanamiya> k4k: it's nice in stuff like php
[04:31] <Shwack> osman I dunno what to tell you - everything I find in the forums is about OS sound not working either
[04:31] <Archanamiya> k4k: it sytax checks :D
[04:31] <Archanamiya> **syntax
[04:31] <K4k> Archanamiya, well that's nice in itself
[04:31] <Archanamiya> k4k: yeah
[04:31] <Archanamiya> k4k: are you using PHP?
[04:31] <qba> PPL anyone?
[04:31] <Archanamiya> qba: ?
[04:32] <cablop> \o
[04:32] <qba> I mean my question
[04:32] <K4k> Archanamiya, no, I really only do html/css I would like to learn PHP but have not yet had a chance
[04:32] <cablop> ask again
[04:32] <Archanamiya> ah
[04:32] <Archanamiya> k4k: i see. PHP is nice
[04:32] <Archanamiya> qba: wrong pass?
[04:32] <Archanamiya> =/
[04:32] <qba> I have problem loging into gnome using gdm - after entering password login screen shows up instead of gnome
[04:32] <Archanamiya> qba: wrong pass? =/
[04:32] <Archanamiya> hey wait
[04:32] <cablop> K4k: if you are a good programmer go for java or python, then move back to php
[04:32] <K4k> qba, are you able to login to the shell?
[04:32] <smacktalk1> what's a good editor with grep functionality?
[04:33] <yoshilappi> well aint that just the humdangest
[04:33] <qba> yes, shell works
[04:33] <qba> password is correct
[04:33] <yoshilappi> you cant install from the search feature only from the list
[04:33] <Archanamiya> qba: ohh
[04:33] <qba> it happened after reboot
[04:33] <qba> I guess some update did this
[04:33] <yoshilappi> ok i need help setting up the wireless on this thing
[04:33] <Archanamiya> qba: so what's the problem? Your initial question is kinda confusing. Can you reword it?
[04:33] <[none]> could anyone tell me, are .nfo files those self starting files for dvds or cds that only work on windows?
[04:33] <qba> it seems to be a common problem but solution like "install fresh ubuntu" isn't an option
[04:33] <centHOGG> bot
[04:33] <cablop> qba you could also changed your default keyboard at gdm
[04:33] <K4k> cablop, I am working on learning python so I'll do that and come back to php most likely as you suggest
[04:34] <unix> Compiz should work for microsoft. Ubuntu + Flash = Fail
[04:34] <Guest71888> goin back to windows 7
[04:34] <Archanamiya> k4k: Screw python. It's nice, but PHP will give better experience
[04:34] <Jordan_U> CyberSix: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ? By default grub's video mode should be nowhere near out of range
[04:34] <Archanamiya> k4k: Python is too unique
[04:34] <The_Journey> how do I set the recovery console resolution to 1360x768?
[04:34] <Archanamiya> IMHO
[04:34] <cablop> K4k: imho to start learning php with no decent language knodledge first is the way to make of yourself a dirty programmer
[04:34] <Archanamiya> naw
[04:34] <Archanamiya> cablop: elaborate...
[04:34] <K4k> I've played in both C++ and Java
[04:35] <Archanamiya> ahh
[04:35] <K4k> never really got proficient
[04:35] <scunizi> [none]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.nfo
[04:35] <Archanamiya> learn C ;)
[04:35] <Archanamiya> k4k: if you're doing web design. then learn PHP.
[04:35] <Archanamiya> otherwise
[04:35] <FloodBot3> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Archanamiya> python is fine too
[04:35] <Archanamiya> oops :S
[04:35] <K4k> Archanamiya, web design is just a way to keep my companies website online :-p I really prefer server administration TBH
[04:35] <qba> Ok, let's start from the begining. I did some upgrades, rebooted to windows, rebooted back to ubuntu and after typing correct password gdm tried to start gnome (login screen disappeared for a second or two) but instead of gnome I saw login window again
[04:35] <Archanamiya> k4k: ahhh
[04:35] <cablop> i guess you can learn java first, or c++ or python, after your mind is efficient as strong rules go to something less strict as php is
[04:36] <The_Journey> how do I set the recovery console  command line resolution to 1360x768? Everything I enter recovery console I cant see anything
[04:36] <cablop> like learning real languages, learn a good lvl language before learning what people speak on streets
[04:36] <scunizi> qba: that happened to me in a vbox vm of ubuntu.. havent' figured it out yet
[04:36] <Archanamiya> qba: Can you just backup then reinstall?
[04:36] <qba> scunizi: It seems to be a common issue lately but nobody gave any better answer than reinstall
[04:37] <K4k> cablop, as I've heard over and over, lol. That's why I started with the C/C++ route first
[04:37] <qba> reinstall is not an option unfortunately
[04:37] <scunizi> qba: or if you have internet connectivity.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <Archanamiya> qba: WHy not?
[04:37] <K4k> I just keep dropping it thanks to my attention span
[04:37] <Archanamiya> k4k: We're getting off topic. We should stop ;)
[04:37] <centHOGG> qba: how'bout start safemode then gdm start
[04:37] <Archanamiya> or try failsafe
[04:38] <cablop> yup, off topic, but nice indeedcXD
[04:38] <K4k> Archanamiya, yes, true...my bad :-)
[04:38] <qba> centHOGG: safemode didn't help
[04:38] <K4k> I'll go look into the recommended IDEs you all suggested, thanks again
[04:38] <Archanamiya> nuts
[04:38] <CyberSix> Jordan_U: what?!?!
[04:38] <Archanamiya> k4k: yw :D
[04:38] <Jordan_U> CyberSix: Sorry, wrong nick
[04:38] <centHOGG> qba: ok, could you log in though?
[04:38] <CyberSix> oh
[04:38] <cablop> qba what about going into shell and changing your pwd for something simple?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ? By default grub's video mode should be nowhere near out of range
[04:38] <preecher> how/what do i do to find a file on ubuntu? as in im looking for a game file but dont know where to start where as in windows i would look under "c"
[04:38] <allin> Archanamiya: Haha, thankyou. It works.
[04:38] <Archanamiya> :D
[04:38] <cablop> then retrying at gdm?
[04:39] <hbah427> join #gtkpod
[04:39] <Archanamiya> allin: Awesome :D
[04:39] <hbah427> oh, sorry
[04:39] <CyberSix> hbah427: spamz0r!
[04:39] <CyberSix> ;p
[04:39]  * centHOGG newegg lag
[04:39] <qba> cablop: I even created a new test user and wasn't able to log onto that account either
[04:39] <Archanamiya> preecher: Open a folder window, then Ctrl+F
[04:39] <centHOGG> qba: see if you can log in then you can dpkg reconfigure
[04:39] <centHOGG> undrstand
[04:40] <allin> Archanamiya: This bug is pretty strange. Updating also causes bugs, haven't heard about that
[04:40] <preecher> Archanamiya, which "folder" do i open
[04:40] <fengshaun_> Does anyone know how I can install circular application menu?  It's not in getdeb.net
[04:40] <Archanamiya> preecher: The one you want to search
[04:40] <Archanamiya> fengshaun: what
[04:40] <Archanamiya> fengshaun: what's the name of the app
[04:40] <cablop> i'm going to ask again, i guess is there an specific option to install ubuntu in virtual machine, something in the install disk, is that true?
[04:41] <Archanamiya> allin: Yeah it is. Oh well, we fixed it
[04:41] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, c-a-m (circular application menu)
[04:41] <preecher> Archanamiya, thats just it i dont know which folder to start looking in
[04:41] <Archanamiya> fengshaun: 1 sec
[04:41]  * centHOGG <vmware
[04:41] <qba> scunizi: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop helped! Thank's a lot! It only installed a few packages that I removed more than a week ago but it somehow helped
[04:41] <Archanamiya> preecher: /
[04:41] <preecher> i tryd search for file
[04:41] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, http://code.google.com/p/circular-application-menu/
[04:41] <centHOGG> good
[04:41] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, appreciated!
[04:41] <Archanamiya> fengshaun: compile
[04:41] <Archanamiya> ?
[04:41] <scunizi> cablop: no.. ubuntu won't know if it's a vm or a HD install.. it's vmware
[04:41] <Jordan_U> cablop: No, but there is an option to install to an image on your windows partition
[04:41] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, I was looking for a way to avoid that!
[04:42] <Archanamiya> preecher: Ah ha! Found something!!
[04:42] <scunizi> qba: you're one step further then me.. I also lost internet connectivity
[04:42] <Archanamiya> preecher: https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/multimedia
[04:42] <flourish> hi all, What does '~E' mean in command 'aptitude search ~E'
[04:43] <cablop> i thought i heard sth like that before, something like a lightweighted ubuntu install
[04:43] <Archanamiya> preecher: get the PPA (tell me if you don't know how), then sudo apt-get install circular-application-menu
[04:43] <Jordan_U> cablop: There is Ubuntu JeOS
[04:43] <qba> scunizi: try wired connection if you can or maybe copy packages from another box
[04:43] <preecher> Archanamiya thx but i figured they was a easier way to search for files to see where they located
[04:43] <cablop> ubuntu JeOS?
[04:43] <Archanamiya> preecger: oh?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> cablop: Which is for creating minimal virtual machine "appliances"
[04:43] <Archanamiya> preecher: what way?
[04:43] <preecher> i dont kno what a PPA is
[04:44] <Jordan_U> cablop: Just Enough OS
[04:44] <Archanamiya> ooops
[04:44] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, where can I find the ppa from?  (and how can I add it?)
[04:44] <Jordan_U> cablop: It's a separate installer though
[04:44] <scunizi> qba: it's a vm on a wired macine.. no luck there..
[04:44] <Archanamiya> fengshaun_: https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/multimedia
[04:44] <Archanamiya> fengshaun_:get the PPA (tell me if you don't know how), then sudo apt-get install circular-application-menu
[04:44] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, oh thanks!
[04:44] <Archanamiya> :D
[04:44] <Archanamiya> you know how to add it?
[04:44] <qba> scunizi: I lost 6 hours to fix that.. I wonder what caused that behavior and moreover, how installing empathy and other redundant stuff helped
[04:44] <Jordan_U> cablop: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[04:45] <Archanamiya> fengshaun_: you know how to add it?
[04:45] <Archanamiya> preecher: oops i was talking to the wrong user
[04:45] <Archanamiya> preecher: my bad
[04:45] <scunizi> qba: the mysteries abound
[04:45] <cablop> nice... but...
[04:45] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, I think it's .deb, so it adds itself automatically, right?
[04:45] <preecher> Archanamiya, o ok but i appreciate all u help
[04:45] <cablop> mmm now i don't know what to do... to install or not to install
[04:45] <centHOGG> scunizi: i was wondering if you guys were 32bit or 64bit
[04:45] <preecher> i downloaded a game and now i wanna find where it be
[04:45] <Archanamiya> preecher: not quite. do you need help installing it? if you do, PM me so we dont interrupt the other people
[04:46] <Archanamiya> fook
[04:46] <cablop> cause i need to run it inside a vbox ... and migrate my existing ubuntu...
[04:46] <Archanamiya> wrong person
[04:46] <Archanamiya> _fengshaun: not quite. do you need help installing it? if you do, PM me so we dont interrupt the other people
[04:46] <Archanamiya> preecher: open a folder window. in the sidebar, click on Filesystem
[04:46] <Archanamiya> preecher: then Ctrl+F
[04:46] <scunizi> centHOGG: 32 in the vm
[04:46] <preecher> what folder i open?
[04:47]  * centHOGG yeah thats solid enough
[04:47] <Archanamiya> preecher: anyone. they all have the sidebar
[04:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without having it mess with my MBR?
[04:47] <Archanamiya> preecher: Music, videos, whatever
[04:47] <cablop> ok, then i change my question, to install an Ubuntu JeOS is a nice idea but will take a lot of time to me now
[04:47] <preecher> i done it
[04:47] <qba> scunizi: It's 5:46AM in my country and ubuntu succesfully kept me from sleeping tonight.. What kind of vm are you using? Vbox, vmware?
[04:47] <preecher> i open home folder
[04:47] <cablop> what services do i need to take out of an ubuntu to make it lightweight?
[04:48] <Archanamiya> cablop: use xubuntu ;)
[04:48] <centHOGG> cablop: have tried ubuntu-server then building that up
[04:48] <m00dawg> Anyone seeing issues with MySQLi (PHP) in Karmic? It seems to be mangling variables in ways my production server (jaunty) does not.
[04:48] <Archanamiya> preecher: what file are you looking for?
[04:48] <preecher> free dink
[04:48] <Archanamiya> ?
[04:48] <preecher> or at least that the name of the game
[04:49] <Archanamiya> preecher: open a terminal, then "whereis freedink". try that
[04:49] <preecher> k
[04:49] <yoshilappi> i could use a little help getting wireless to work on this ubuntu machine
[04:49] <Archanamiya> preecher: why do you need to know anyway?
[04:49] <cablop> Archanamiya: yes i can try xubuntu, but i want to stop some serices not related with GUI
[04:50] <Archanamiya> cablop: ohh. what services?
[04:50] <scunizi> qba: vbox
[04:50] <cablop> centHOGG: yes i tried the server thing, until the last 8.04 server version does not want to run in my CPU, it says my CPU is not supported anymore on that kernel :(
[04:50] <preecher> Archanamiya,  i need install some cheats and what you tole me to do i find it--many thax
[04:51] <centHOGG> cablop: yeah I've only used jaunty
[04:51] <cablop> Archanamiya: that's what i was asking, lol!
[04:51] <Archanamiya> preecher: yw
[04:51] <smacktalk1> I need a a really functional configurable editor
[04:51] <scunizi> qba: first time I ever had an issue with it.. if it was actually the cause.. I've used vmware but it's too heav
[04:51] <qba> scunizi: has networking worked before?
[04:51] <smacktalk1> any suggestions?
[04:51] <centHOGG> vmware heavy?
[04:51] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Not easily. Did you see my last question?
[04:51] <Archanamiya> caplop: I see. so, what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:51] <velcroshoo> i get my internet wirelessly, and have an in house ethernet network to stream to my tv and the likes. well everytime i plugin my ethernet cable, jaunty automagically switches over and I lose DNS and cant connect to the net. How can i have my wireless on wlan0 not be affected by eth0, but they both work independently?? (i am not talking about bridging, inet and local network are on seperate subnets)
[04:51] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: Can you repeat it?
[04:51] <fengshaun_> Archanamiya, wow man, thanks!
[04:51] <scunizi> qba: oh yea.. worked fine until the vm of ubuntu stopped working.. funny though.. I also had a vm of kubuntu and it worked fine..
[04:51] <Jordan_U> smacktalk1: emacs or vim
[04:52] <Archanamiya> fengshaun_: np :D
[04:52] <Jordan_U> Archanamiya: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ? By default grub's video mode should be nowhere near out of range
[04:52] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: Sure. gimme a sec.
[04:52] <cablop> Archanamiya: i have an existing installation of ubuntu there, i run it for some services instead of running them on windows, but, i want to simplify that ubuntu more, i don't need bluetooth or wireless there, for example
[04:52] <qba> scunizi: have you tried adding another network device into the vm?
[04:53] <K4k> cablop, what were the plugins you meantioned for Eclipse?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> !minimal | cablop
[04:53] <scunizi> qba: yea. only one other..actually just switched it.. in the first tab..
[04:53] <smacktalk1> !editor
[04:53] <Archanamiya> k4k: what do you want to do?
[04:53] <Archanamiya> !code
[04:53] <Archanamiya> oh lawd
[04:53] <Archanamiya> Komodo ftw
[04:54] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: That file doesn't exist for me :S
[04:54] <K4k> Archanamiya, yea working on that, I don't like manual installs >_<"
[04:54] <cablop> K4k: Aptana, PDT, PHPeclipse or JEE
[04:54] <Hb_Kai> hey. i'm using virtualbox to install windows as a guest os and i was wondering, if i pause it and put my laptop into hibernate until the morning, will the win7 installation be continued where i left off?
[04:54] <qba> scunizi: boot the vm from a livecd and you should have networking. Than chroot and you should be able to use apt-get
[04:54] <Archanamiya> k4k: i see. actually, the Komodo install gives a step by step read me
[04:54] <cablop> Jordan_U: thanks
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Archanamiya: In Ubuntu? It has to
[04:54] <Jordan_U> cablop: np
[04:54] <scunizi> Hb_Kai: don't risk it unless you have a backup of the vm.. then give it a try and see how it handles it.
[04:54] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: nope
[04:55] <cablop> by the way anyone knows how to migrate an existing ubuntu into an stripped down ubuntu without pain?
[04:55] <scunizi> qba: I'll give that a shot on Monday.. it's a work machine.
[04:55] <Hb_Kai> scunizi: alright, cheers
[04:55] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: Nothing.
[04:55] <Archanamiya> cablop: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ;)
[04:55] <K4k> cablop, rsync? what do you mean by migrate?
[04:55] <cablop> Archanamiya: lol lol lol
[04:55] <Archanamiya> cablop: :D
[04:56] <qba> scunizi: ok i gotta go now and catch some sleep (1hr left but should be enough)
[04:56] <scunizi> qba: :)  see ya
[04:56] <qba> scunizi: thanks for help and good luck with your vm
[04:56] <Archanamiya> qba: good luck
[04:56] <kbp> I've searched for virtualbox-ose but it doesn't show up, is there anything wrong with the repos of 9.04 desktop 32bit?
[04:56] <cablop> with migrate i mean to replace the OS but keeping the preferences of importyant things there, in fact, databases, and svn repositories, and vsftp
[04:57] <josvuk> Hello, What is used in Ubuntu9.04ppc for the x11-bell. I'm not able to produce an alert in the terminal with printf("\a")?
[04:57] <josvuk> pulseaudio?
[04:57] <Archanamiya> cablop: :< i PM'ed you.
[04:57] <scunizi> kbp: search for vitualbox without the -ose and it should show up.
[04:57] <Archanamiya> cablop: we should try to avoid flooding others
[04:57] <Archanamiya> cablop: on the channel
[04:58] <infidel2> is there an apt-command that tells you if a package is already installed?
[04:58] <kbp> scunizi: i think i have got a problem here, it doesnt show up any else except installed packages
[04:58] <forkcap> infidel2: apt-cache policy package_name
[04:58] <venger> cablop, what i did between hardy to intrepid was identify all setting files and applied them to a virtualbox install and tested, created scripts and what not then install intrepid on another partition -- you can see where i'm going at this point
[04:58] <cablop> infidel2: yes, but try installing aptitude, it is easier to use
[04:59] <scunizi> kbp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and try again
[04:59] <forkcap> infidel2: apt-cache search package_name_guess if you don't know the name
[04:59] <William_So1> need help
[04:59] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: Elaborate
[04:59] <cablop> venger mmmm the problem is... i ahve already a vm and... and that vm use real partitions, no way to clone the vm, not with ease
[05:00] <Archanamiya> cablop: i am so confused...
[05:00] <William_So1> how do u get irc working with Blucoat porxy client is blocking it
[05:00] <kbp> scunizi: will apt-get upgrade update the os to 9.10? I dont want to upgrade to 9.10
[05:00] <Archanamiya> Blucoat?
[05:00] <William_So1> Hmmm...
[05:00] <William_So1> proxy client
[05:00] <Archanamiya> ooohhhh
[05:00] <William_So1> that filters intnernet
[05:00] <Archanamiya> use Tor
[05:00] <Archanamiya> privoxy
[05:00] <Archanamiya> oh wait
[05:00] <cablop> i think i'm in the situation you say, i have to manually dlete all what i don't need
[05:01] <Archanamiya> William_So1: Who's running it. You or somebody else?
[05:01] <William_So1> i have the government's laptops :P
[05:01] <cablop> Archanamiya: why confused?
[05:01] <William_So1> im on the laptop
[05:01] <Archanamiya> cablop: All this VM talk ;)
[05:01] <William_So1> but it doesnt seem to work at skool
[05:01] <Archanamiya> What doesn't
[05:01] <marcelcohrs> hi ive troubble setting up my vhosts
[05:01] <cablop> Archanamiya: ah, that
[05:01] <William_So1> irc
[05:01] <Archanamiya> cablop: yeah
[05:01] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: Oh i see. You want to circumvent a filter?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Archanamiya: Do you have grub2 installed?
[05:02] <William_So1> the chat thing on opera
[05:02] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: iunno
[05:02] <cablop> just easy things, running ubuntu 8.04 inside a vbox, but using real partitions instead of disk image files
[05:02] <marcelcohrs> i got a dedicated linux server and im trying to set up my vhosts
[05:02] <scunizi> kbp: no.. it won't
[05:02] <William_So1> !define circumvent
[05:02] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: Never used Opera =/
[05:02] <forkcap> kbp: the "dist-upgrade" will take you from 9.04 to 9.10
[05:02] <William_So1> oh
[05:02] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Sigh, windows isn't booting from grub, can anybody help me with this?
[05:02] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: Circumvent ==get around
[05:02] <tkmsr> I want to use VNC
[05:02] <marcelcohrs> does any body know a GOOD tutorial?
[05:02] <tkmsr> in Ubuntu
[05:02] <scunizi> forkcap: kbp no it won't
[05:02] <marcelcohrs> yeah
[05:02] <tkmsr> how is it possible
[05:02] <marcelcohrs> in ubuntu server
[05:03] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: So you're trying to get past a filter?
[05:03] <callkalpa>  Does anyone here know whether Huawei E1550 modem works with ubuntu?
[05:03] <marcelcohrs> yo
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: First you need to install grub-pc, then you need to run "sudo update-grub"
[05:03] <marcelcohrs> anybody ever setup a vhost?
[05:03] <William_So1> does anyone know how to surf the net an ominously
[05:03] <William_So1> yes
[05:03] <marcelcohrs> so how does it work
[05:03] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: To be anonymous, use Tor
[05:03] <marcelcohrs> ?
[05:03] <infidel2> how come apt-cache policy apache2 says "Installed: (none)" if apache2 is installed?
[05:03] <William_So1> whats that
[05:03] <marcelcohrs> ?
[05:03] <William_So1> !google Tor
[05:03] <scunizi> !tor | will
[05:03] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: A proxy.
[05:04] <William_So1> is it a website
[05:04] <forkcap> infidel2: not a package name match?
[05:04] <marcelcohrs> Who knows how to stup vhosts
[05:04] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: No, a program.
[05:04] <marcelcohrs> ?
[05:04] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: Be patient
[05:04] <William_So1> coz they log when log in your internet acc
[05:04] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: Don't flood
[05:04] <naples_guy> what command should i use to execute a .run file?
[05:04] <cablop> and keep the ? with your question
[05:04] <Archanamiya> William_Sol: What the hell are you doing?
[05:04] <pdragon_> dose anyone know how to disable X11 on boot
[05:04] <marcelcohrs> Archanamiya:  there s so mcu gooing on in the channel my messages disappear very fast
[05:04] <cablop> pdragon_: disable GDM service
[05:04] <scunizi> naples_guy: perhaps.. sh <package name> or ./<package name>
[05:04] <Jordan_U> naples_guy: There is probably a better way to install whatever you are trying to insta
[05:05] <William_So1> im on the skool laptops
[05:05] <marcelcohrs> Archanamiya so what to do?
[05:05] <William_So1> just pm me
[05:05] <pdragon_> ok how i use that
[05:05] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: shouldn't grub-pc come installed?
[05:05] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: sorry. not familiar with what you want D:
[05:05] <daliang> hello,where can i get miro rss? there just two feeds when installed
[05:05] <pdragon_> can't i just remove the gdm from the init.d >
[05:05] <marcelcohrs> Archanamiya: u know somebody who would?
[05:05] <cablop> pdragon_: in administration > services but keep all graphic applications closed
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: It's not installed on upgrades, and if you don't have /etc/default/grub you don't have grub-pc
[05:05] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: Google XD
[05:05] <pdragon_> ok here is another one
[05:05] <Jordan_U> !boot | pdragon_
[05:06] <cablop> pdragon_: the sessiopn will close when you do that, and remember to use startx to start the grpahic session
[05:06] <ubuntu_freak> i can't connect my laptop to any public wifi's, well, any router in general except for home..what is the problem, is wicd better?
[05:06] <Stanto> Switched from the GUI based version of the ubuntu install disc to the console one. So far I can actually install it. \o/
[05:06] <eNons3nse> hey, quick question.  i'm letting a family member borrow one of my old laptops w/ ubuntu but they have dial-up.  where do i plug in the phone number and account info?
[05:06] <marcelcohrs> Archanamiya:  thats what i did, buts not working for me
[05:06] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: http://www.webmasterworld.com/apache/3715288.htm
[05:06] <marcelcohrs> i am new to linux
[05:06] <Archanamiya> ah
[05:06] <Archanamiya> marcelcohrs: PM me
[05:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_freak: No, wicd is not better ( IMHO )
[05:06] <naples_guy> scunizi, Jordan_U, i am installing virtualbox guest additions. this is where i'm at.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/328210/
[05:06] <pdragon_> i created a wireless script for boot and put it in the init.d folder will that work or do i need to run a command ?
[05:06] <pdragon_> to make it work
[05:07] <Naex> Hello all, I had a quick question about ubuntu (specifically network remix): I used to use Archlinux but I accidently destroyed it and don't want to reset it, can ubuntu be used just text-based and only load up graphical programs like firefox?
[05:07] <vuze> bye honey
[05:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_freak: What happens when you try to connect to other wireless networks with network-manager
[05:07] <microlith> Naex: you can sit on the console all the time yes
[05:07] <Jordan_U> Naex: Yes
[05:07] <eNons3nse> ???
[05:07] <pdragon_> i have not tried it just yeat
[05:07] <scunizi> naples_guy: type .. sudo ./VBoxLinux<TAB> etc etc
[05:07] <cablop> Naex: don't get what you mean with text baed but graphic load...
[05:07] <eNons3nse> where do i configure dial-up settings?
[05:07] <ubuntu_freak> Jordan_U: basically like old ubuntu, tries to connect for a period of time, then doesn't...and on occaision, it says connected, and isn't really connected
[05:07] <pdragon_> was going to try to diable x11 and reboot and see
[05:08] <[none]> can anyone tell me how to open a uif file
[05:08] <ubuntu_freak> Jordan_U: network manager did the latter with other distros
[05:08] <pdragon_> to use dial up try ppo
[05:08] <Naex> I don't want a desktop, basically
[05:08] <ubuntu_freak> as well
[05:08] <Archanamiya> Naem: stopx
[05:08] <cablop> Naex, then the same thing pdragon_ asked
[05:08] <scunizi> Naex: install server then..
[05:08] <Naex> ah, danke
[05:08] <Jordan_U> naples_guy: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-source
[05:08] <William_So1> back
[05:08] <Archanamiya> k
[05:08] <callkalpa> anyone here to answer me?
[05:08] <pdragon_> naem you can use the sudo apt-get remove gdm
[05:08] <cablop> Naex install a server version or install a full ubuntu and disable GDM service
[05:09] <venger> for kernel-package, is export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=X; make-kpkg ..... *corrent* in order to get multiple jobs like make -j or did i misunderstand ?
[05:09] <scunizi> Naex: bitter (I know the spelling is wrong..phonetically ok though)
[05:09] <eNons3nse> pdragon_, so there's no dial-up capabilities built into ubuntu any more?  you have to download something?
[05:09] <cablop> scunizi: no, Naex want to be able to run Firefox and others too
[05:09] <naples_guy> Jordan_U, i am familiar with that way, i would like to try the command line out
[05:09] <venger> c/*corrent*/*correct*/ :)
[05:09] <pdragon_> you will need to apt-get ppo
[05:09] <William_So> does Tor have unlimited hours of usage?
[05:09] <Archanamiya> mhm
[05:09] <pdragon_> i used that on debian long time ago and it works nice
[05:09] <[none]> can anyone tell me how to open a .uif file
[05:09] <scunizi> cablop: without a gui there's no FF.. lynx, links etc yes.. but no FF
[05:09] <William_So> Coz i dont know how to Your Freedom
[05:10] <pdragon_> enonsense i go get the right apt info for you
[05:10] <cablop> scunizi: but he ies able to run gUI with startx, use FF then close FF and GUI
[05:10] <eNons3nse> pdragon_, i just tried apt-get ppo and it said it cant find the package
[05:10] <[none]> hello?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Archanamiya: Have you installed grub-pc yet?
[05:10] <scunizi> cablop: could do that too. there's always options
[05:11] <cablop> scunizi: yup
[05:11] <William_So> Busy atm
[05:11] <Archanamiya> Jordan_U: no.... why would I?
[05:11] <pdragon_> ok enonsense check this out
[05:11] <pdragon_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/pon.1.html
[05:11] <naples_guy> is there a command to restart?
[05:11] <Archanamiya> yeah
[05:11] <pdragon_> that should help you
[05:11] <William_So> So...
[05:11] <cablop> naples_guy: sudo shutdown -r now
[05:11] <naples_guy> !restart
[05:12] <William_So> how many hrs does Tor give u?
[05:12] <[none]> !linux
[05:12] <cablop> i think naples used it XD
[05:12] <Archanamiya> William_So: Hours of what?
[05:12] <Archanamiya> lawl
[05:12] <William_So> Tor
[05:12] <Archanamiya> ....
[05:12] <[none]> !ubuntu
[05:12] <Archanamiya> unlimited
[05:12] <microlith> William_So: it's not a time limited service
[05:12] <Archanamiya> !karmic
[05:12] <FloodBot3> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <[none]> can anyone tell me how to open a .uif file
[05:12] <Archanamiya> !warty
[05:12] <ethereality> Can anyone help me get Java working with Firefox? I created a thread detailing my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334859
[05:12] <William_So> kool
[05:12] <Archanamiya> !eol warty
[05:12] <Archanamiya> !eol
[05:13] <Archanamiya> !google
[05:13] <William_So> u gotta pay?
[05:13] <Archanamiya> nope
[05:13] <pdragon_> and sorry the namewas ppp
[05:13] <William_So> kool
[05:13] <William_So> thanks
[05:13] <Archanamiya> William_So: It's completely free
[05:13] <Archanamiya> William_So: yw :D
[05:13] <Archanamiya> !win
[05:13] <eNons3nse> a man page?  there's no GUI to set-up a dial-up connection?
[05:13] <Archanamiya> !man
[05:13] <[none]> !boobs
[05:13] <Archanamiya> !info
[05:13] <William_So>  :p
[05:13] <Archanamiya> !blowjobs
[05:13] <Archanamiya> lawl
[05:13] <William_So> !leg hump
[05:14] <Archanamiya> !buttsex
[05:14] <Archanamiya> anyway
[05:14] <William_So> !smd
[05:14] <FloodBot3> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <cablop> Archanamiya: hahahaha
[05:14] <ethereality> hey, quit it, Archanamiya
[05:14] <Archanamiya> sorry guiz
[05:14] <William_So> !define noo
[05:14] <ethereality> help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334859 instead :(
[05:14] <scunizi> !ops | Archanamiya William_So
[05:14] <pdragon_> ethereality what ver ubuntu you running
[05:14] <ethereality> um, pdragon_ i say it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334859 ... 9.04 i think
[05:14] <bazhang> William_So, stop it
[05:14] <cablop> but ubottu does not know anyuthing about life...
[05:14] <vorian> whois Archanamiya
[05:14] <William_So> huh?
[05:14] <vorian> grr
[05:15] <William_So> stop wat?
[05:15] <ethereality> i don't want to upgrade to 9.10 unless i have a good reason to do so
[05:15] <Zzarkc> Anyone here good with working with GRUB2?
[05:15] <bazhang> Archanamiya, stop playing with the bot, William_So you too
[05:15] <K4k> cablop, apparently aptana has a standalone as well as an eclipse plugin, I'm going to give the standalone a try, it looks really good
[05:15] <[none]> can anyone tell me how to open a .uif file
[05:15] <pdragon_> are you in xwindows ethereality
[05:15] <Archanamiya> sorry
[05:15] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: it wasnt an upgrade, it was a clean isntall of 9.10
[05:15] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Zzarkc
[05:15] <m00dawg> Is 9.10 going to have an upgraded PHP? Seems I found a reproduceable bug but when I try to log that into bugs.php.net, it suggests I upgrade to 5.2.11
[05:15] <Archanamiya> !flood
[05:15] <[none]> acetoneiso isnt working
[05:15] <William_So> im on windows 7 :D
[05:15] <m00dawg> (Ubuntu 9.10 has 5.2.10)
[05:15] <cablop> K4k: yes, i went the opposite way i installed as a plugin inside eclise+pdt XD
[05:16] <pdragon_> yeah i have win7 for my gamming pc :P
[05:16] <mneptok> !ot
[05:16] <William_So> i got it for free ;P
[05:16] <ethereality> pdragon_: no idea what xwindows is
[05:16] <ethereality> i'm just using ubuntu 9.04
[05:16] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Check if you have grub-pc installed, I don't know why you wouldn't but if you don't have /etc/default/grub then you don't
[05:16] <Zzarkc> Can someone help me figure out why changing the menu listing in GRUB2 is not working correctly?
[05:16] <ethereality> i've listed the stuff i'm using at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334859 at the beginning of the post i think
[05:16] <pdragon_> are you in graphical mode of linux
[05:16] <pdragon_> or console
[05:17] <William_So> pdragon are u from aus
[05:17]  * cablop sleepy
[05:17] <m00dawg> ethereality: X Windows (or just X) is the GUI that things like Gnome sit on top of.
[05:17] <pdragon_> nope
[05:17] <Jordan_U> !doesn't work | Zzarkc
[05:17] <William_So> Mmmm....
[05:17] <pdragon_> im why you as im from aus :P
[05:17] <cablop> pdragon_: asia? or close?
[05:17] <William_So> im from aus
[05:17] <ethereality> oh, thanks, m00dawg. if that's the default, then yeah, i guess i'm using it.
[05:17] <Zzarkc> Funny Jordan...
[05:17] <pdragon_> not even close im from USA
[05:17] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: /etc/default/grub exists
[05:18] <William_So> anyone play Battlefield heroes?
[05:18] <mneptok> !offtopic > William_So
[05:18] <[none]> acetoneiso isnt working
[05:18] <[none]> can anyone tell me how to open a .uif file
[05:18] <William_So> lol
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ? By default grub's video mode should be nowhere near out of range
[05:18] <pdragon_> but if you want i can bounce my ip and make it look like it :P william
[05:18] <GaToR2> Hi. Can someone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1188636.html ?
[05:18] <William_So> rofl
[05:18] <cablop> [none]: try in google looking for filext, i know we dfon't have to tell you to look into google, but...
[05:19] <scunizi> Zzarkc: google "grub2 how to" and you'll find some easy tut's.. you can't edit in the older normal location anymore becuase it's dynamically created on each boot.
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: Honestly, in what wa doesn't it "work"?
[05:19] <[none]> ive googled
[05:19] <William_So> Opera owns firefox?
[05:19] <K4k> Is there a way to manually edit the Applications menu to add items?
[05:19] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: My mistake, its the SWITCHING of the vdeo modes that causes it, when I turn my monitor off then back on it works
[05:19] <K4k> ack, nevermind, silly question
[05:19] <yoshilappi> arg no wonder i cant get online by the wireless ubuntu doesnt even see it
[05:19] <scunizi> K4k: point at the menu and right mouse click
[05:19] <William_So> Which one is better Opera or Firefox
[05:19] <cablop> [none]: i remembered two or three file extensions pages out there, give them a try
[05:19] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: Its only when it switches modes while its on that it happens
[05:19] <ranjan> can any body can provide me an list of best compartable tablet and head phones on ubuntu 9.10
[05:19] <mneptok> !best > William_So
[05:19] <cablop> William_So: Chrome
[05:20] <ranjan> can any body can provide me an list of best compartable tablet and head phones on ubuntu 9.10 please help ..
[05:20] <William_So> lol
[05:20] <pdragon_> ethereality just click Applications/ubuntu software center and type java in the search in it and you can install java that way very easy
[05:20] <scunizi> ranjan: wacom
[05:20] <pdragon_> o and william i do play b2f i also have my own server and what not
[05:20] <yoshilappi> which ls command would possibly list my wireless device so i know which driver i need?
[05:20] <cablop> !best cablop
[05:20] <mneptok> William_So: do you have any questions related to Ubuntu support?
[05:20] <Zzarkc> scunizi Jordan_U I've got it changing the menu, but following the how-to, all I'm getting is the syntax I typed in. For example: codename="'lsb_release -cs'", and all that's getting outputted into my menu when I boot is: "lsb_release -cs" with the version information affterwards.
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Try uncommenting GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub and then run "sudo update-grub"
[05:20] <cablop> !best > cablop
[05:20] <William_So> pm pdragon
[05:21] <William_So> me
[05:21] <pdragon_> how
[05:21] <ranjan> scunizi :: can you kindelly specify the model no
[05:21] <William_So> click on my namw
[05:21] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: it already has a # in the front of it
[05:21] <ranjan> scunizi :: can you kindelly specify the model no. to be very specific
[05:22] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: besides, its when it says "grub loading" where this happens, not after it loads the menu. Right now though, I want to get windows workign with grub again
[05:22] <scunizi> ranjan: any.. it's up to you. I use a graphire 4 but they are older.. there really isn't a "best"
[05:22] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: *un*comment :)
[05:22] <Cyber_Akuma_2> oh
[05:22] <cablop> anyone here have some exp with vbox?
[05:22] <[gabe]> anyone know how to create a "blank" iso image (for virtualbox) ?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: What howto are you following?
[05:23] <cablop> [gabe]: creaste it from virtualbox itself :P
[05:23] <Zzarkc> Jordan_U http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602
[05:23] <cablop> ok
[05:23] <cablop> going offline
[05:23] <cablop> have a nice time, guys
[05:24] <[gabe]> um, that doesn't seem to be an option...
[05:24] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: still happens, im pretty sure its happening before it can evne read the config file
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: For just changing the titles for your Windows entry it would be easier to copy the current entry from your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then remove 30-os-prober
[05:25] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: the second grub starts my screen goes blank and says out of range
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: Since it's not going to be changing
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: After uncommenting and running update-grub ?
[05:26] <venger> there is a GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER value you can use in karmic
[05:26] <Lucider> i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all and since then mu karmic is slower in launching apps is that normAal
[05:26] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: Yes, as I said, its before it can read any config files, so modifing the grub or grub.cfg file sim pretty sure wont do anything
[05:26] <Zzarkc> Jordan_U It's not changing the Windows portion I'm interested in. Instead of it saying: "Linux 2.64.564 etc" I would rather it saying something with "Karmic" first. At least what the how-to mentioned for changing it is good.
[05:27] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: I don't know why there would be a modeswitch between POST and grub
[05:27] <Cuddles> quick question, when I try to cd to another dir i keep getting no such file or directory even when I type ls to see other dirs
[05:27] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: can you at least help me get windows booting form grub again then?
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> Cuddles, you using the correct case?  a vs A?
[05:27] <yusuf> How can i change GRUB order?
[05:28] <Lucider> i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all and since then mu karmic is slower in launching apps is that normAal
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: Note that those are back tics, not quotes
[05:28] <Cuddles> Ill ry it
[05:28] <forkcap> Cuddles: type the first few letters of the directory then hit "tab" to autocomplete
[05:28] <Cuddles> And that was it
[05:28] <Zzarkc> Jordan_U Ah. that might be the syntax error. Thanks.
[05:28] <dajepp> anyone here dual booting with os x and ubuntu?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: What happens when you try to boot windows?
[05:28] <Cuddles> Well gotta learn sometime
[05:28] <Cuddles> haha
[05:28] <Cuddles> thx
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: np
[05:29] <yusuf> dajepp: yes me
[05:29] <Cuddles> Is everything in CLI case sensitive?
[05:30] <ctmjr> Cuddles: everything in linux is case sensitive
[05:30] <Fatb0y> Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't see any of my Sata Harddrives?
[05:30] <Zzarkc> Jordan_U Hmmm... didn't work. Do the black tics actually mean anything or do I just leave those out?
[05:30] <daurnimator> I just got a notice that one or more of my hdds are failing... how do I find out more
[05:30] <Cuddles> Thx again!
[05:31] <yusuf> How can i change Grub order at startup?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: The back tics mean that when the script is run what's in the backtics is replaced with the output of the command within the backtics
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Zzarkc: So "echo `date`" will print the date
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, if they are additional internal drives you might have to add them to the fstab file so Ubuntu will know about them
[05:32] <daurnimator> anyone?
[05:32] <Zzarkc> Jordan_U Alright. I was using the single quote, forgot about that character.
[05:32] <forkcap> daurnimator, you could run "e2fsck" from a live cd. only works on unmounted partitions
[05:32] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, i am assuming this can be done during the text install?  just go to the terminal?
[05:32] <daurnimator> I would imagine its something to do with smart?
[05:33] <skyl> what can I type in CL to see what my current soundcard is?
[05:33] <spO> hi
[05:33] <greezmunkey> !smart
[05:33] <spO> does mirc work well in wine
[05:33] <spO> ?
[05:33] <thiscomputer> how do i activate the superl key
[05:33] <mneptok> spO: why not use xchat?
[05:33] <daurnimator> also, I don't know which hdd it was talkign about: theres 6 in the computer...
[05:33] <scunizi> skyl: lspci or sudo lshw
[05:34] <spO> mnpettok, cause mirc is better and the best
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, i'd recommend you use "gksu gedit /etc/fstab" but you'll need to know what the dev id of your drives is and create mount points for them - a little research on your end may be required...
[05:34] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: It says "error: device format "ata0,1" invalid: must be (f|h)dN, with 0 <= N < 128
[05:34] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, all my drives are sata actually, but my first drive starts on the Sata 2 controller not sata 1.
[05:34] <forkcap> daurnimator: you can boot the live cd, make sure your hard drives are unmounted and run e2fsck to check/repair the partitions
[05:34] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, i can't even get all the way into the boot live cd inorder to use gedit.
[05:35] <skyl> as in, when I compile ALSA, I'm going to do something like $./configure --with-cards=layla24 --with-sequencer=yes ; make ; make install
[05:35] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, when i say it doesn't recognize the drives it also means it fails to load the live cd as there are no drives available.
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, use "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal to find all you correct /dev/sdX# that you'll need, how many partitions do you want to mount?
[05:35] <skyl> but I want to add my current card, which might be called something like hda-intel, but I'm not sure
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: What says that?
[05:35] <scunizi> Fatb0y: do you have a gforce motherboard?
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, oh man you you running a livecd?
[05:36] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, as long as i get 1 drive up then i would be fine.  i can format and mount the second drive after install.
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, if you are then you don't need fstab!  just mount the drives!
[05:36] <thiscomputer> the superl key is also the home or windows key how do i impliment it for the menu
[05:36] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, no, not running a live cd now.
[05:36] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: grub
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, ok, then use the fdisk -l to find your partitions!  sd then a letter and number!
[05:37] <william>  with Bourne shell scripting?
[05:37] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, so far all i have been able to do on this machine is get ubuntu running in vmware but i want ubuntu to be the main OS on this machine and then just load windows in vm when needed
[05:37] <william> anyone here familiar with Bourne shell scripting?
[05:37] <scunizi> Fatb0y: do you have a gforce motherboard?
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, you also need to know what type of partition they are ext3 ext4 nfts etc
[05:37] <Fatb0y> scunizi, yes, i do believe it is.
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> Fatb0y, you are aware that there is no gaming in VMs right?
[05:38] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, yes i am aware
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Run grub-install with --disk-module=ata again
[05:38] <scunizi> Fatb0y: some gforce boards need the pci=nomsi on the kernel line to boot fully into the live cd.. after install you have to add that same line to grub..
[05:38] <Fatb0y> ZykoticK9, this machine is not for gaming its for office work / serviing up files   i have another machine for games
[05:38] <Guest99360> anyone here familiar with Bourne shell scripting?
[05:38] <William_So> !VNS
[05:38] <bazhang> William_So, /msg ubottu
[05:39] <scunizi> !bash | Guest99360
[05:39] <Ed54> '|' isn't a number!
[05:39] <venger> or #bash or just ask
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> Guest99360, you might do better asking in #bash or if there is a bourne channel
[05:39] <thiscomputer> im on an acer one using xubuntu 904 how do i initiate the home key for the main menu
[05:40] <stevo> hello
[05:40] <scunizi> Fatb0y: if it works one thing to look out for is grub installing on the wrong drive of a multi drive system
 i dont see a channel for either
[05:40] <forkcap> Guest99360, don't ask to ask, just ask
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> Guest99360, #bash is certainly there
[05:40] <bazhang> Guest99360, /join #bash
[05:41] <stevo> i just installed xubuntu on this old windows 98 machine, and it works fast!
[05:41] <William_So> does anyone know how to disable bluecoat proxy client?
 thanks :)
[05:42] <stevo> how do i join another room
[05:43] <scunizi> stevo: type /j #<room>
[05:43] <William_So> !hop
[05:43] <William_So> is this totally different to irc?
[05:44] <ctmjr> William_So: is what different?
[05:44] <William_So> Mmm
[05:44] <William_So> im using the chat thing on Opera
[05:45] <skyl> useradd -G admin music  -->  useradd: user 'music' already exists
[05:45] <bazhang> William_So, did you have an ubuntu support question? this IS irc
[05:45] <threexk> hello.  I have a "Distribution update" for gij in Update Manager that I can't get rid of.  What to do?
[05:45] <skyl> well, I want to add the user to the group ...
[05:46] <forkcap> skyl: usermod
[05:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: remount all the drives and everything again? im not running off of livecd
[05:47] <xer> hi there... i have a question according to mcrypt command line usage - does anyone know where a good place to ask would be?
[05:47] <skyl> forkcap got it, thanks
[05:47] <uwe> hallo
[05:47] <sp0spo> is there a music program that allows me to synthesize music ...whereas i can enter beethoven music notes and synthesize music without paying anyone?
[05:48] <uwe> bin ich im deutschsprachigen chat??
[05:48] <bazhang> uwe, #ubuntu-de for German
[05:48] <xer> uwe: eigentlich nicht glaub ich
[05:48] <bazhang> uwe, /join #ubuntu-de
[05:48] <xer> sp0spo: maybe one of the default packages in ubuntu-studio is something for you
[05:49] <sp0spo> xer, what si the name of ubutnu-studio package?
[05:50] <ctmjr> sp0spo: there is a #ubuntustudio channel do not know how active it is
[05:50] <xer> ubuntu studio  is a own ubuntu release for ppl with special audio/video needs
[05:51] <xer> sp0spo: see ubuntustudio.org
[05:52] <forkcap> sp0spo: check out LMMS, Rosegarden. You can update your current Ubuntu installation to include the Studio defaults, great way to browse a lot of linux audio apps easily.
[05:53] <xer> so can anyone tell me where to ask my mcrypt question? i hate the fact that i've got my problem solved in c# and cannot solve it in a shell....
[05:55] <damagednoob> xer, i don't know, difficult to tell until you ask it :P
[05:55] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: its still doing the video thing, still taking forever to load, and still not loading windows
[05:55] <Voss> 9.10 will be the last version of ubuntu to have GIMP as part of the standard install
[05:56] <Cyber_Akuma_2> pulling.... hair..... out.....
[05:56] <Archanamiya> Voss: Why?
[05:56] <xer> damagednoob: the two snippets can be found here: pastebin.com/f69e00f51 and here: pastebin.com/f50c0f545
[05:56] <xer> damn - now i
[05:56] <xer> 've got 2go
[05:56] <swiftarrow> Voss, will they take it off the CD too?
[05:57] <Voss> Its not a mainstream app
[05:57] <smacktalk1> I need to extract the lines out of a file that contain a certain word and append it to another file...anyone know the grep command?
[05:57] <xer> damagednoob: if you have an idea pls write to superant_2000@yahoo.de
[05:57] <xer> sry
[05:57] <xer> bye
[05:57] <damagednoob> k
[05:57] <Voss> swift, it will still be in the repositories
[05:58] <Voss> It just wont be part of the default iso
[05:58] <greezmunkey> smacktalk1, it smells of a gruesome combination of grep and awk :(
[05:58] <forkcap>  smacktalk1: grep pattern file >> otherfile
[05:58] <swiftarrow> Voss, oh.
[05:58] <Morphias> ok, so i installed ubuntu 9.10 about a week ago.  the first thing i did was try to run WoW, so i tried to isntall wine. because the DNS resolver is broken i did a patch but then the PDNS (or w/e) patch failed and I lost internet access.  I had to roll back to my windows backup partition just to get back on the internet.
[05:58] <mrb88> hi every one
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Is the error you gave me earlier only printed when you try to boot windows?
[05:58] <neilthereildeil> hey
[05:58] <neilthereildeil> does anyone know Martin Pitt's email?
[05:58] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: yes
[05:58] <smacktalk1> !grep
[05:58] <neilthereildeil> hes an ubuntu dev
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[05:59] <ultraz> this might be off topic, if you know any help channel on audio let me know. I am looking to buy some speakers for desktop. Is the sound quality on USB speakers better or worse?
[05:59] <neilthereildeil> hes on the ubuntu mailing list too
[05:59] <Voss> GIMP is considered a high end app not something for mainstream users
[05:59] <neilthereildeil> he has a toshiba portege m400 just like me
[05:59] <neilthereildeil> and i need to know what his configuration files look like
[06:00] <mrb88> i have a problem with my tv tuner can any body help me to get it work
[06:01] <Voss> ultraz, usb speakers...worse, usb headphones and mic better....go figure
[06:01] <Morphias> i just got to say that i loved ubuntu from 7 - 9.04 but ... i hope the devs can work out the usability issues for 10 and i will switch back.
[06:01] <BillyBoy> hallå
[06:01] <Voss> morphias, im using mint 7, which is a stabilized 9.04
[06:02] <Cyber_Akuma> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/mfd0ef3c
[06:02] <neilthereildeil> anyone?
[06:02] <neilthereildeil> martin pitt's email?
[06:03] <Voss> ultraz, usb speakers have too much hiss for me plus they dont supply enough power to produce nice bass
[06:04] <Voss> anyone awake?
[06:04] <mrb88> yes
[06:04] <swiftarrow> Voss, I guess I'll just switch to Ubuntu studio post 9.10, so I can get all the real productive "high-end" apps.
[06:05] <skyl> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-layla24
[06:05] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/device.map and change all "hd" to "ata" then run update-grub again
[06:05] <Voss> swiftarrow, sounds like a plan
[06:06] <skyl> http://dpaste.com/125305/
[06:06] <Voss> swiftarrow, Truth be known both the ubuntu people and the GIMP people agreed on this.
[06:06] <skyl> use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel .... what is the dir for ubuntu?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma: There is a tiny chance that will speed up loading of the menu as well
[06:07] <Cyber_Akuma> Jordan_U: BTW, is there any way I can set windows to appear as the first menu choice?
[06:07] <Cyber_Akuma> Jordan_U: So I can set ti as default, without having to worry about kernel updates changing the location of windows in the menu
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma: Yes, "sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober" then update-grub
[06:08] <Cyber_Akuma> ok, thanks, rebooting now
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma: np
[06:09] <ctmjr> skyl: did you install the kernel header files and kernel source package
[06:09] <skyl> ctmjr I thought I had them
[06:11] <mrb88> I want IRc espicially on h/w drivers, because i cann't find a driver for my tv tuner
[06:11] <mrb88> so any one know please tell me
[06:12] <billybigrigger1> is phpmyadmin not in jaunty's repos anymore?
[06:12] <billybigrigger1> E: Couldn't find package phpmyadmin
[06:12] <Lucider> please anyone here uses aria2 i cant download with it
[06:13] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: everything is the same
[06:13] <lstarnes> billybigrigger1: make sure that the universe repository is enabled
[06:13] <Li_No> Hi all
[06:13] <ctmjr> what do you get when you run ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build should have a config and some other dir
[06:14] <tsoporan_> Got a small problem trying to install ubuntu, it's booted up fine on my laptop however I can't initiate the install, the cursor looks like its working for a second then nothign pops up, is there another way to start the install?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: Can you pastebin your new grub.cfg?
[06:14] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: windows is now thw first menu but it still takes just as long ot boot, and gives the same error for windows
[06:14] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: k, one sec
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: And your /boot/grub/device.map
[06:15] <Guest95175> some one plz tell me how i repair my repository
[06:15] <Guest95175> ?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: "echo $prefix" in the grub shell might be usefull as well
[06:15] <ctmjr> skyl: what do you get when you run ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build should have a config and some other dir
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Guest95175: What problem are you having exactly? Do you see an error?
[06:16] <tsoporan_> Anyone?
[06:16] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m46b96bbc
[06:16] <cyberakuma> ...
[06:16] <skyl> ls: cannot access /lib/modules/2.6.31-15-generic-pae/build: No such file or directory
[06:16] <Jordan_U> !alternate | tsoporan_
[06:16] <cyberakuma> what is that?
[06:17] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: I THINK I see whats wrong though
 my update and upgrade fails
[06:17] <tsoporan_> !minimal | tsoporan
[06:17] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: is it the drivemap part?
[06:17] <tsoporan_> Well there'sa  waste of a 700mb cd. heh.
[06:18] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Ok, copy the 09-os-prober section of your grub.cfg to 40_custom
[06:18] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Yes
[06:18] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: is taht 40_custom a folder or a file?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[06:19] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Add the windows menu entry to that file
[06:19] <Guest95175> hellow my ans
[06:19] <Guest95175> ?
[06:19] <pfred1> is it OK for me to do the tarball install of seamonkey being as the package is so ancient?
[06:19] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: wait a sec, im confused.
[06:19] <con-man> !botabuse |ubotu
[06:20] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Then edit it removing the drivemap command
[06:20] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: You mean the part in /boot/grub/grub.cfg? Wouldent any changes I do there be undone the next time there is a kernel update?
[06:20] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: No, /etc/grub.d/40_custom Is where you put custom manual menu entries
[06:20] <pfred1> set the immutable flag on the file :)
[06:21] <pfred1> sometimes package management does suck
[06:21] <ghufran> hi .. i want to mount a usb flash drive .. but its not mounting .. i would want to use the mount command .. but i dont know the device path .. how do i find the path ?
[06:21] <Thunder_Drop> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and am unable to install packages in any way...  I have tried doing updates, new packages, and apt-get to install... Nothing works...  I get this error message from the terminal  http://pastebin.com/d797f09e2  Anyone know what I need to do to fix the error?
[06:21] <client06> o
[06:22] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: so copy-paste the windows part into the 40_custom file, but completely delete the drivemap command?
[06:22] <client06> abenteuer
[06:22] <skyl> how do I install the kernel source and headers?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: So the idea is that you woule remove 09-os-prober and instead add then menu entry in 40-custom ( which you can also move to 09-custom or whatever name you want starting with a number between 1 and 9
[06:22] <RYDeN> haciendo un curso
[06:22] <RYDeN> jejeje
[06:22] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Yes
[06:22] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop is your system like overclocked or something?
[06:23] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: You can also try it once just booting as is and editing the menu entry by pressing "e"
[06:23] <client06> ta
[06:23] <client06> ta
[06:23] <ctmjr> skyl: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[06:23] <skyl> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:23] <skyl> yep
[06:23] <skyl> onto the next problem :P
[06:23] <RYDeN> one question, what is ubuntu?
[06:24] <itilious> is it possible to use remote desktop with compiz on ubuntu 9.10?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu | RYDeN
[06:24] <Thunder_Drop> pfred1 no... the only thing that could cause a problem is that I'm running off a usb stick...but I doubt that should cause a problem as it is just another hd
[06:24] <ctmjr> skyl: which is?
[06:24] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: ok, i added it to 40_custom, now how do I add 40_custom to update-grub?
[06:24] <RYDeN> thanks!
[06:24] <skyl> ctmjr trying to compile ALSA with support for my other soundcard
[06:24] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Any script in /etc/grub.d/ is run automatically
[06:25] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop hmm well I'm new to Ubuntu myself it does seem to do things differently
[06:25] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: ok, so this will this interfere with 09?
[06:25] <cyberakuma> will this*
[06:25] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop I'm not so sure at this point if I'm going to stay with it really
[06:25] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: If you don't remove 09 you will have two windows entries ( at least one of which won't work :)
[06:25] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop like all my drives are ide-scsi
[06:26] <Thunder_Drop> I read that someone else had a similar problem and it was solved by deleting a corrupted file from the package but I have been unable to find the right file
[06:26] <ctmjr> skyl: are you using a howto or just shooting in the dark?
[06:26] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: can I just create a "removed" folder in grub.d and put it in there?
[06:26] <skyl> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-layla24 this has been locked since 2007 :(
[06:26] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop heh I did the CD check and it found one corrupted file though the iso was Ok md5sum
[06:27] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop so I went for it!
[06:27] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Yes
[06:28] <Thunder_Drop> well i dont have to worry about the cd now as everything is installed but my libcupsmime1 package is corrupted somehow
[06:28] <Thunder_Drop> causing the package manager to hang
[06:28] <cyberakuma> Jordan_U: ok, osprober moved to "removed", 40 renamed to 09, now I just need ot run update and reboot right?
[06:28] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop yeah can't just ftp the file?
[06:28] <Lucider> hi i am using ubuntu linux and i just installed aria2 but it dont start downloading just give me [#1 SIZE:0B/0B CN:1 SPD:0Bs]  and i wait and nothing happens
[06:28] <Jordan_U> cyberakuma: Yes
[06:28] <Thunder_Drop> trouble is that I can't reinstall the package because of the error
[06:29] <ctmjr> skyl: so try it again see what happens
[06:29] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop there has to be a way to manually install a package
[06:29] <skyl> configure: error: required curses helper header not found
[06:29] <Thunder_Drop> I would replace the file if I could figure out which one is causing the problem
[06:30] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop strange as it sounds I've repaired really messed up Linux systems by just doing overwrite reinstalls
[06:31] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop like don't let the installer format just install
[06:32] <Thunder_Drop> well I really don't want to resort to that if I can help it... there must be a simple way
[06:32] <Serraphyn> Hi all
[06:32] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop not much simpler than dropping in a CD
[06:32] <ctmjr> skyl: hold on let me find the list of things you need to compile it, i never tried this put you can run sudo apt-get build-dep alsa from the alsa dir it more than likely will not work
[06:32] <Serraphyn> I'm having problems with sharing my printer, anyone able to help with it?
[06:32] <pfred1> Thunder_Drop but i know what you mean it sounds bad
[06:33] <Thunder_Drop> If anyone could point me to the file that I need to fix I could do a simple reinstall of that package once I deleted the offending file
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: What file? What problem are you having?
[06:33] <pfred1> http://pastebin.com/d797f09e2
[06:34] <Thunder_Drop> jordan_U my package manager is getting hung up on a bad file in the libcupsmime1 pkg  but I can't find the file
[06:34] <Andrina> \
[06:34] <Andrina> \
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: What is the exact error?
[06:34] <Andrina> \
[06:34] <Andrina> \
[06:34] <Thunder_Drop> http://pastebin.com/d797f09e2
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Andrina: Please stop
[06:34] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <tsoporan_> ...
[06:35] <skyl> http://dpaste.com/125309/
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <Hilikus> no ops eh?
[06:35] <Thunder_Drop> jordan_U its a corrupted file but I simply can't find it
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: What is the exact error?
[06:35] <skyl> jpds !
[06:35] <Andrina> \
[06:36] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/d797f09e2
[06:36] <Lucider> aria2 in karmic is it working i canr get it work
[06:37] <linuxguy2009> Anyone here use kdenlive and can report it working in gnome in 9.10 install?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libcupsmime1". That should download the package again ( the files list is part of the package )
[06:39] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: windows loaded, thanks :)
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: np :)
[06:40] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U still didn't work... here is the updated error :(  http://pastebin.com/m10fd1c60
[06:40] <skyl> so now that I've have recompiled ALSA and there is no hope ...
[06:40] <skyl> there is no way back?
[06:40] <Cuddles> ping
[06:41] <skyl> nothing to make you feel like a worthless POS like ruining your own sound after hours of struggle and no luck
[06:41] <Cuddles> !bash
[06:41] <Ed54> 630: <_Gandalf_> if i were mexican i'd have something witty and funny to say...
[06:41] <skyl> FATAL: Error inserting snd_layla24 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-15-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/echoaudio/snd-layla24.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[06:42] <skyl> any idea how to proceed?
[06:42] <skyl> speaking of which, any recommendations on working sound cards?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> skyl: Try booting from an older kernel, if that works then apt-get re-install your current kernel ( or just jump strait to trying re-install )
[06:43] <Jordan_U> !hardware | skyl
[06:43] <ctmjr> skyl: sudo-apt-get install build-essential linux-source what everthe output of uname -r is
[06:44] <skyl> already the newest version
[06:44] <skyl> post-newest even probably
[06:44] <skyl> newest + epic fail :P
[06:45] <LordHawke13_> Why would Banshee be unable to manage iPods in Karmic when it can in Jaunty?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> skyl: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[06:45] <Jordan_U> LordHawke13_: Same iPod?
[06:45] <LordHawke13_> Yeah.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> LordHawke13_: I don't know then
[06:46] <Jordan_U> !ipod | LordHawke13_
[06:46] <LordHawke13_> Jordan_U, And it's OLD!
[06:46] <ctmjr> skyl: in the alsa driver dir sudo make uninstall then sudo make clean
[06:46] <karex> HI ALL, i've installed freeglut3-dev, but gcc said "undefined reference to ...". can u help me?
[06:47] <igie> test
[06:47] <igie> whois Igie
[06:47] <igie> hmm
[06:47] <lstarnes> karex: undefined eeference to what?
[06:47] <lstarnes> *reference
[06:48] <Jordan_U> igie: /whois Igie
[06:48] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U is there a way to run the apt-get without it 'reading database' which seems to be what is causing it to fail
[06:48] <igie> Jordan_U: thanks ;)
[06:48] <karex> lstarnes: it seems all the glut identifier...
[06:49] <loprox> Hmmm good question
[06:49] <tleuser> yherhye
[06:50] <tleuser> rt
[06:50] <tleuser> tret
[06:50] <tleuser> tre
[06:50] <tleuser> ert
[06:50] <FloodBot3> tleuser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <lstarnes> karex: it might not be looking in the right place
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: "echo | sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcupsmime1.list" But make sure you still re-install the package, if it doesn't have a new line at the end it is somehow corrupted
[06:51] <karex> lstarnes: can u help me? where are they usually take place?
[06:51] <lstarnes> karex: I don't know
[06:51] <lstarnes> karex: after installing glut, did you reconfigure the program that you are trying to compile?
[06:51] <nanda> I keep my media files on a separate ext4 partition. How can I have it automount on startup without requiring me to enter my password every time?
[06:52] <karex> lstarnes: how to do it?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Actually before you re-install pastebin that file ( before or after running the command I gave, doesn't matter ) out of curiosity
[06:52] <lstarnes> karex: did it come with a ./configure script?
[06:52] <alokito> whats the karmic repo for opera?
[06:52] <karex> lstarnes: i don't know
[06:52] <lstarnes> karex: how are you compiling it?
[06:53] <alokito> i mean whats the opera repo for karmic? :P
[06:53] <karex> lstarnes: gcc source.c -o output
[06:53] <skyl> dmesg say '[14361.590494] snd_layla24: Unknown symbol __snd_printk'
[06:53] <skyl> after modprobe snd-layla24
[06:54] <biznock09> my transmision doesnt not work any recommendations for other programs
[06:54] <lstarnes> karex: you'll need to fing the path where the glut folder is located then add -I/path (e.g. gcc -I/path -o output source.c)
[06:55] <lstarnes> karex: it's usually /usr/include, which should be searched by gcc automatically
[06:55] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U that got it past that package but now another one is giving the same error http://pastebin.com/m3fc352a1  Would the same command with the different package name work?
[06:56] <alokito> why isn't opera in the default ubuntu repo? :(
[06:56] <skyl> oh well, guess this sound card is ebay material
[06:56] <lstarnes> alokito: it's propeietary
[06:56] <lstarnes> *proprietary
[06:56] <alokito> oh ok
[06:56] <karex> lstarnes: i want to try 'pkg-config' first. maybe there's a solution
[06:56] <sysadmin> Hi
[06:56] <karex> lstarnes: thank you
[06:56] <biznock09> how do you download torrent files?
[06:56] <lstarnes> karex: I don't think you need pkg-config
[06:56] <lstarnes> alokito: it might be in multiverse or the partner repos
[06:57] <alokito> lstarnes: but the repo contains proprietary codecs and drivers! so whats the problem with opera? :-/
[06:57] <Guest37421> Hi al
[06:57] <Guest37421> l
[06:57] <lstarnes> alokito: it's a full application
[06:57] <alokito> okk
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Is the file completely empty? If so do you have ext4 and recently had an improper shutdown?
[06:57] <lstarnes> alokito: those codecs and drivers are primarily for use by free/open-source applications
[06:57] <alokito> hmm ok
[06:57] <Guest37421> is there any way to synchronise offline files in Ubuntu with a CIFS Server ?
[06:58] <alokito> so they are not illegal?
[06:58] <lstarnes> alokito: they are usually legal
[06:58] <alokito> k
[06:59] <woodyjlw> I am so close to getting rid of microsoft completely !  I cant get my canon i350 printer to work in ubuntu and my magicjack those are only 2 problems left....dose anyone know about magicjack yet?
[06:59]  * Cyber_Akuma_2 hands woodyjlw an xbox360
[06:59] <Cyber_Akuma_2> XD
[07:00] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U by the file do you mean /var/lib/dpkg/firefox-3.5.list  because if that is what you mean then no its not empty but I do have ext 4 but I have not had a recent improper shutdown... at least I never got error msgs when shutting down.  I am running off a fresh install.  Only thing that could be different is that my hd crashed so this install is on a usb stick.  Would that cause the problem?
[07:00] <woodyjlw> xbox360 sucks
[07:00] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: Im back into windows again at least, thanks :) I'll have to look into the other problems
[07:01] <woodyjlw> dontlike consoles
[07:01] <woodyjlw> lol
[07:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Meh, im not much of a pc gamer
[07:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> pcs dont have teh games I like
[07:01] <greezmunkey> heh nautilus over X over ssh :) works pretty good.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: np
[07:01] <woodyjlw> i only play wow anymore
[07:01] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Sigh, ALL of this would nto be a problem if only I didnt have a mobo that dosen't support LBA48 >.<
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: For the speed problem you will probably have to ask in #grub ( or make a /boot at the begginning of the drive and switch back to biosdisk instead of ata )
[07:02] <woodyjlw> is magicjack still planning a linux driver ?
[07:02] <biznock09> how do you download torrent files?
[07:02] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Jordan_U: I forgot about #grub, thanks
[07:03] <CalicoJack> hey guys, i just ran a system update and it killed my wifi.  I have an EEE PC 701.  Do you know anything about this and how to fix it?
[07:03] <lstarnes> biznock09: load the .torrent for the file into a torrent client.  that client will take care of downloading and seeding the file
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Cyber_Akuma_2: np
[07:03] <Thunder_Drop> biznock09 http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/
[07:03] <anonymousx> is there anybody here who has fairly extensive knowledge about the encrypted lvm options available on the alternate install CDs (ie what algorithms are uses, key strength, etc.)
[07:03] <anonymousx> *used
[07:03] <lstarnes> biznock09: deluge is another one of several bittorrent clients for ubuntu
[07:04] <woodyjlw> I had lots of problems in past installing ubuntu on  this PC.  I unplugged magicjack and unpluged both my ide 250 drives and only left sata 250 to install from and it was a perfect install this time
[07:04] <losha> woodyjlw: I've been waiting for a linux driver for magicjack since it came out. I don't think it'll ever happen....
[07:05] <woodyjlw> wonder why magicjack would cause so many errors when installing ubuntu
[07:05] <welcome> INDUS : Hi..wats up
[07:06] <zythyl> hey guys i need some help
[07:06] <anonymousx> zythyl on what?
[07:06] <zythyl> partitions
[07:07] <woodyjlw> with magicjack plugged in during install ubuntu will not show the hard drives and pops errors
[07:07] <welcome> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 9.10 KK on my laptop inside windows xp. Today when i started it, i find internet connection (both wire & wireless) dont work.It works fine in windows. pl help..thnx
[07:07] <indus> welcome: hi
[07:07] <anonymousx> does anybody know of a way to view raw data from a hard drive in Ubuntu (ie in hex or something like that)
[07:08] <Sabir> Has anyone been able to get the sound work via HDMI on the map Nvidia GT220? I have no more ideas and options for how to do it.
[07:08] <Sabir> map=card
[07:08] <zythyl> im installing the latest version of ubuntu. i partitioned one of my drives in half: one for windows and another for ubuntu. when creating a ubuntu partition, it asks me for the location on the disk for this newly created partition.... and it gives me the option of either beginning or end. what id like to know is: if i choose "beginning" will it overwrite my windows 7 install ( because on the partition table, windows takes up th
[07:09] <Maleko> whats the chan bot command again?
[07:09] <CalicoJack> !test
[07:09] <Maleko> !alternate Maleko
[07:09] <Maleko> !mini iso
[07:10] <Maleko> err whats tha thing called? mini ubuntu?
[07:10] <Maleko> !net installation
[07:11] <Maleko> !net
[07:11] <Maleko> !boot
[07:11] <zythyl> can ANYONE help?
[07:12] <indus> !testagain
[07:12] <Kerio> hello
[07:13] <CalicoJack> has anyone else had wifi problems since running the latest system update?
[07:13] <anonymousx> nobody here can recommend a raw drive analysis tool?
[07:13] <anonymousx> CalicoJack: yes, karmic is still learning to walk correctly
[07:13] <welcome> Hi! I m using ubuntu 9.10 KK on my laptop. I want to connect to internet via bluetooth from my mobile.I dont find any option to connect or configure. pl help
[07:14] <pfred1> anonymousx I read about one once years ago but I forget what it was called
[07:14] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U do you think that something went wrong in a package install that corrupted the database for certain packages?
[07:14] <losha> zythyl: it doesn't sound right. Like you, I would expect the ubuntu partition to start *after* the windows one, *not* at the beginning of the disk.  In your place, I would partition manually using gparted and during install tell it to use the partitions you've created by hand. Make a backup of your windows system first, also....
[07:14] <anonymousx> CalicoJack: if you can reproduce a bug (and can't find solutions via google) please report it at bugs.launchpad.net
[07:14] <anonymousx> pfred1: thanks
[07:14] <greezmunkey> zythyl, yikes, seems that the MBR for W7 should be at the beginning of the disk...but - there are folkes in here that understand gparted *WAY* better than I, I would be patient (or bail) if I were you. good luck :)
[07:14] <pfred1> anonymousx what I'm saying is its out there so don't give up looking for it
[07:15] <pfred1> anonymousx but don't expect to recover binary data with it
[07:15] <pfred1> anonymousx best you're going to do is be able to pull text strings
[07:15] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U though like I said, its a fresh install... I only updated a couple things before i hit the wall
[07:16] <anonymousx> pfred1: thanks. I'm just looking to verify that my encrypted drive is actually encrypted or encoded with something. I've used the alternate cd lvm encryption installer before and when I look in gparted (from a livecd) the encrypted partition is unknown. Now (in 9.04) it's shown as ext3 which doesn't seem right to me
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Can you pastebin any of the bad files?
[07:17] <pfred1> anonymousx I don't think the format has anything to do with encrypted files
[07:17] <mr_steve> anyone here know anything about GConf? Specifically; how to manually remove schemas?
[07:17] <skyl> so, now I reboot and I have no panels ... I don't know how to get to a terminal ... about all I can do is change the desktop background
[07:18] <deanfx> Hey everyone
[07:18] <deanfx> anyone actually up?
[07:18] <greezmunkey> skyl, try ctrl+alt+F1, see if you get a login prompt...
[07:19] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U  The first one looks like a bunch of simbols on gedit so I'm not sure if you want to see that one but this is the one that it is gettin hung up on now http://pastebin.com/m5df3b6f0
[07:19] <skyl> greezmunkey, any ideas from there?
[07:19] <anonymousx> pfred1: the way it used to work was that the entire partition was encrypted, filesystem and all. Now it looks like LUKS has some type of hybrid business going on where the partition type is somehow viewable and I don't know why
[07:19] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U that's /var/lib/dpkg/info/firefox-3.5-gnome-support.list
[07:19] <greezmunkey> skyl, you could try restarting GDM...as a start (sudo service gdm restart)
[07:20] <greezmunkey> skyl, then ctrl+alt+F7 to see if it worked...
[07:21] <skyl> why would screwing up my kernel make my panels go away?
[07:21] <greezmunkey> skyl, what all did you do?
[07:22] <welcome> Hi! I use UBUNTU 9.10 KK ON MY LAPTOP. I WANT TO CONNECT TO INTERNET VIA BLUETOOTH FROM MY MOBILE. DON'T FINDA NY OPTION TO CONNECT. PL HELP/GUIDE. THANX
[07:22] <skyl> vim: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:22] <skyl> nice, linux sound is such BS that it even screws up vim
[07:22] <greezmunkey> skyl, from the console can you ping google.com?
[07:23] <skyl> greezmunkey, yep
[07:23] <anonymousx> greezmunkey: sometimes pings are blocked by routers, ISPs, etc. try wgeting instead?
[07:23] <skyl> can't use vim tho
[07:24] <greezmunkey> skyl, then you should be able to recover, maybe apt-get install (update, maybe to start) I'LL LEAVE THAT to someone else to confirm...
[07:24] <skyl> libasound.so.2 is messed up, so naturally, I can't edit text from the CL
[07:25] <greezmunkey> anonymousx, if he can ping google.com, he has internet, and dns...
[07:25] <deanfx> is there any command to see process's running on terminal?
[07:25] <skyl> ps ax deanfx
[07:25] <woodyjlw> ok I am running dual boot and just want to clean up grub... after updates there is allot more options to choose from. how do I get rid of the older ubuntu  kernels in grub?
[07:25] <skyl> top can give you some good info too
[07:25] <Thunder_Drop> deanfx top
[07:25] <deanfx> thanks skyl
[07:25] <skyl> yep
[07:26] <nomad77> deanfx: also htop
[07:26] <losha> skyl: well according to your error msg, you don't have a libasound.so.2
[07:26] <welcome1> Hi! I use UBUNTU 9.10 on my laptop.I want to connect to internet via bluetooth from my mobile.Don't find any such option to connect. pl help..thnx
[07:26] <deanfx> Awsome.
[07:26] <skyl> just don't mess with sound
[07:26] <deanfx> Thanks guys :)
[07:26] <skyl> losha, /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 is there
[07:26] <skyl> idk
[07:26] <skyl> who cares if it's not there
[07:26] <skyl> ?
[07:27] <skyl> give me my panels and my terminal and my vim?
[07:27] <skyl> why oh why did I ever try to compile ALSA
[07:27] <skyl> it would have been cheaper to pay someone to take this sound card away
[07:27] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/m4d5329c2  That is the original file that you asked me to append though I didn't get a chance to reinstall the package
[07:28] <nikesh> is my pc is 64 or 32 bit Linux nikesh 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U both have some weird characters though they are with different encoding.... I don't know if that is important
[07:28] <skyl> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-source
[07:29] <nikesh> is my pc is 64 or 32 bit  please check the output of uname -a         Linux nikesh 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:29] <losha> skyl: well, my vim (karmic, 2:7.2.245-2ubuntu2) doesn't use libasound. What does ldd /usr/bin/vim say?
[07:29] <skyl> I did that and $make uninstall ; make clean
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: I think those might be bits of an executable, definitely not what should be there
[07:29] <skyl> in the alsa src dirs
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: And could cause more problems than you currently have if you're not carefull
[07:30] <skyl> trying to run /usr/bin/vim gives me the libasound error
[07:30] <losha> skyl: not what I asked you for...
[07:30] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U your command seemed to get the proccess beyond the first file... should i do the same for this one?
[07:31] <skyl> losha, a bunch of lib stuff
[07:31] <deanfx> Im installing the updates right after doing the install of 9.10, and it is up to configuring grub-pc. its taking forever, seems to be scrolling "Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-xxx a lot
[07:31] <deanfx> is something wrong?
[07:31] <losha> skyl: any of them mention libasound?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Only to re-install the package ( and check that the other file is now actually a list of files now that you have re-installed )
[07:31] <mongoose1> hi ppl
[07:31] <kartook> i need to convert my system to as live CD
[07:31] <kartook> or DVD
[07:31] <skyl> libasound => not found
[07:32] <mongoose1> got a question if anyone has a bit of time
[07:32] <skyl> libasound.so.2 that is
[07:32] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U so should I run that command on the next file and try to get through the reinstall process?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: I have no idea what might happen if dpkg tries to actually use one of these files, in fact maybe deleting them is safer ( or moving them somewhere else to later find out what they are )
[07:32] <skyl> so I have one at /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
[07:32] <greezmunkey> kartook: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[07:33] <skyl> is there anyway that I can go back to a stock kernel?
[07:33] <mongoose1> anyone here use the softphone Twinkle???
[07:33] <kartook> Waww Great link thanks dude
[07:33] <losha> skyl: uh, you're running a custom kernel?
[07:33] <greezmunkey> kartook: np :)
[07:33] <skyl> losha, well, I tried to compile ALSA ..
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Does /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcupsmime1.list now contain a list of files?
[07:33] <amagee> hey can anyone help me with getting a webcam (logitech mp/s5500) working in ubuntu 9.10?
[07:34] <nomad77> skyl: try sudo /sbin/ldconfig after library file changes. then try the app
[07:34] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U no but I wasn't able to do a reinstall as the next file got in the way after
[07:34] <greezmunkey> losha: I read somewhere that a custom kernel violates you warrenty, so to speak. True?
[07:34] <losha> skyl: if you didn't delete them, your old kernels should still be in /boot
[07:35] <skyl> losha, the old kernels got boinked too somehow
[07:35] <losha> greezmunkey: well, there *is* no warranty, but a custom kernel sure make it hard to diagnose anything over irc...
[07:36] <skyl> I'm ready to let all of my work go for the past couple of years ... if I could just get a browser to d/l the latest ubuntu disk
[07:36] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U I cut the files out of the folder and tried to reinstall the first package... seems to find another so I'll do the same for it
[07:36] <skyl> well, anything that's not safe ad sound in a git repo :P
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Try deleting the next file, if that works then instead of the command I gave you try a similar command that will just create a blank file ( with a newline ) "echo | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcupsmime1.list"
[07:37] <skyl> that word "sound" I don't ever want to hear or see it again
[07:37] <crazyivan> DOes anyone here know how to install a windows game on linux?
[07:37] <greezmunkey> losha, I was referring to the dressing down that a guy got in here for badgering people for support on his custom kernel :/
[07:37] <Jordan_U> skyl: Well you won't be3 hearing it, your sound is broken ;)
[07:37] <Jordan_U> !wine | crazyivan
[07:37] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U the next file I can't even open as no encoding could be detected but I'll just cut it out of the folder
[07:38] <skyl> that I could deal with ... the fact that i can't even get to a graphical browser ...
[07:38] <crazyivan> I already got WINE but there seems to be problems installing the game from the CD-rom
[07:38]  * skyl goes to d/l ubuntu with lynx and figure out how to burn and iso from the CL
[07:38] <crazyivan> the game is Red Alert 2
[07:38] <losha> greezmunkey: well, like I said, it's pretty impossible to support a custom kernel. Who knows what sins may have been committed. And not mentioning it up-front is simply dishonest...
[07:39] <skyl> crazyivan, I don't know if telling you to kill yourself now is morally ethical ...
[07:39] <crazyivan> why's that?
[07:39] <losha> skyl: nothing to it: cdrecord -v -tao speed=40 dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree -eject -data file.iso
[07:39] <greezmunkey> losha: agreed
[07:40] <crazyivan> anyone here ever try yellowdog linux on their Ps3?
[07:40] <nomad77> crazyivan: read up on wine-doors,wine-tricks,playonlinux google has info
[07:40] <skyl> well, I just followed some alsa instructions all the way to a bricked box
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: That first file might have been part of the cups binary
[07:40] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U I cut about 6 files out of the folder... all with strange encoding in them.... I then was able to reinstall the first package... the file is restored and looking normal
[07:41] <skyl> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-layla24
[07:41] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U should i just reinstall the other packages too now?
[07:41] <skyl> I don't think that it's actually a custom kernel
[07:41] <skyl> per se
[07:41] <losha> Thunder_Drop: do you know what corrupted them in the first place?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Yes
[07:41] <night1ne> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783Failed to fetch
[07:41] <night1ne> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release/dists/-cs).list/\/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[07:41] <night1ne> Failed to fetch http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release/dists/-cs).list/--output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[07:41] <FloodBot3> night1ne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <crazyivan> well I took the installed files from my windows OS and copied them here on linux, then WINE is capable of executing the videogame but it doesnt read the disc in my Cd-drive. what could i do?
[07:41] <Thunder_Drop> losha No i have no idea what caused it
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: There is a package for finding files whose contents don't match what it should be, let me find it
[07:42] <night1ne> o.O
[07:42] <bigmack83_> if i use scp to download large files from my server and my connection is cut for whatever reason. is scp able to continue where it left off for that file? or is there another way to manage that download?
[07:42] <losha> Thunder_Drop: is it an ext4 filesystem?
[07:42] <Thunder_Drop> losha yes it is
[07:42] <night1ne> Does this thing work yet?
[07:43] <Madpilot> night1ne, you're on IRC in #ubuntu, so something's working :)
[07:43] <kartook> any one help to get good black transparent themes for my ubuntu 9.04
[07:43] <Thunder_Drop> losha is ext4 still unstable... I only used it because it was the default in the install process... all my other installs have been with ext3
[07:43] <crazyivan> Does anyone know why i cant access my root directory? When i try to open it i get error 13: Permission denied.
[07:43] <losha> Thunder_Drop: there have been rumours about ext4 file corruptions, but never anything reproducible (of course).
[07:43] <night1ne> Okay. Good. So I've got a problem. And that stupid floodbot doesn't like me.
[07:43] <night1ne> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783Failed to fetch
[07:44] <night1ne> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release/dists/-cs).list/\/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[07:44] <night1ne> How do I fix that/
[07:44] <night1ne> ?
[07:44] <FloodBot3> night1ne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <crazyivan> Need help, why am i denied permission to access my root directory?
[07:44] <night1ne> That floodbot is annoying, isn't it?
[07:44] <losha> night1ne: you start by not flooding i.e. no multi-line messages....
[07:44] <crazyivan> when i try to open the folder it says i dont have permission to
[07:44] <Thunder_Drop> lasha I will have to see if i get anymore corrupted files... I'll watch for it more closley this time and try to figure out what caused it
[07:45] <night1ne> No multi-line messages..? So then I have to go and learn pastebin or something similar?
[07:45] <nomad77> night1ne: go to the website read the info on importing the repo key or try the server later or both
[07:45] <night1ne> Is the floodbot scared of too much readind?
[07:45] <mostafa_> hey there how can i set a shortcut key for my applications for ex. Terminal
[07:45] <night1ne> Okay
[07:45] <losha> night1ne: well, not if you don't want to. You can always just keep getting muted by floodbot...
[07:45] <night1ne> I'll do it when I feel like causing pain to my cerebral cortex :D
[07:46] <skyl> crazyivan, use sudo ... but really, wine?  might as well do yourself in
[07:46] <crazyivan> @mostafa_ i've been wondering the same thing, how do i create shortcut keys? especially for my terminal
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: The package is debsums, it will find any files that don't match the contents of the packge they came from
[07:46] <crazyivan> lol skyl
[07:46] <crazyivan> thx
[07:46] <nomad77> mostafa_: xbindkeys is one way
[07:46] <crazyivan> skyl would you mind telling me what command to type after "sudo"?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: There will be many false positives ( some files are meant to be changed ) but for instance all of the file lists should match so any error from those you know to re-install that package
[07:47] <crazyivan> im just trying to gain access to my root directory
[07:47] <mostafa_> nomad77: can u explain it how to more
[07:47] <mostafa_> :D
[07:47] <crazyivan> install xbingkeys?
[07:47] <indus> !bluetooth | welcome
[07:47] <skyl> crazyivan, $sudo su # if you want to push permissions problems out of the way
[07:47] <crazyivan> Ahhh ok let me go try it
[07:48] <zcat[1]> skyl:  I'd suggest sudo -i rather than sudo su
[07:48] <mostafa_> it's some kind of command or not
[07:48] <skyl> but then you might end up like me, d/ling a new iso from lynx to burn from the command line at 3 AM
[07:48] <mostafa_> nomad77: it's some kind of command or not
[07:48] <mostafa_> ?
[07:48] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U any particular way to run it as I just typed debsums and its doing a lot of checking :)
[07:48] <losha> skyl: which release are you downloading?
[07:48] <nomad77> mostafa_: sudo  apt-get install xbindkeys then man xbindkeys.edit a .xbindkeysrc in user's ~/ run the daemon
[07:48] <crazyivan> skyl, here is what came up: crazyivan@CrazyIvans-Linux:~$ $sudo su 13
[07:48] <crazyivan> Unknown id: 13
[07:48] <crazyivan> crazyivan@CrazyIvans-Linux:~$ $sudo su #
[07:48] <crazyivan> Password:
[07:48] <crazyivan> su: Authentication failure
[07:48] <crazyivan> crazyivan@CrazyIvans-Linux:~$
[07:48] <FloodBot3> crazyivan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:48] <skyl> if it doesn't work OOTB, go play outside :P
[07:49] <skyl> losha, Karmic
[07:49] <crazyivan> k
[07:49] <mostafa_> nomad77: thanks
[07:49] <crazyivan> am i muted?
[07:49] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U Will it output the results to a file?  I can't see most of the results as they are cut off from terminal
[07:49] <Jordan_U> skyl: lynx? You lazy bum, curl is all you need and *maybe* less if you can't parse html while it's scrolling across the screen
[07:50] <losha> skyl: fewer sound issues with 8.04 LTS....
[07:50] <skyl> Jordan_U, if I new the url
[07:50] <crazyivan> ok im back
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Just redirect the output to a file with command > file.txt
[07:50] <zcat[1]> Jordan_U:  curl? You can't just telnet to port 80?
[07:50] <crazyivan> accidently closed the chat
[07:50] <skyl> losha, sound works fine if I just take what works OOTB and pretend that I like it
[07:50] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  try sudo -i
[07:51] <losha> crazyivan: you're not muted, but you need to learn not to flood...
[07:51] <crazyivan> ok thx zcat ima go try
[07:51] <Jordan_U> zcat[1]: I'm so ashamed of myself now :(
[07:51] <vick> Is there a program that can run on linux that will open my windows installed (win7 that is), some sort of virtual machine, but run the windows that is already installed as opposed to a new one on a file
[07:51] <vick> Does vmware does that ?
[07:51] <losha> skyl: ok, just as long as you know what you're getting into...
[07:51] <skyl> vick, yep
[07:51] <vick> skyl, vmware does ?
[07:51] <zcat[1]> Jordan_U:  curl is a handy tool though...
[07:51] <skyl> losha, I suppose that pulseaudio is still a big pile of crap :P
[07:51] <Jordan_U> zcat[1]: http://xkcd.com/378/
[07:52] <zcat[1]> vick:  virtualox-ose
[07:52] <losha> skyl: oh yeah, bigtime...
[07:52] <zcat[1]> vick:  virtualbox-ose
[07:52] <zcat[1]> !info virtualbox-ose
[07:52] <crazyivan> holy crap
[07:52] <crazyivan> it worked
[07:52] <vick> Perfect :D
[07:52] <skyl> !pulseaudio
[07:52] <skyl> !ESD
[07:52] <crazyivan> zcat[1], thx man, it worked
[07:52] <AnAnt>  how can I check the signature of a deb file ?
[07:52] <skyl> !alsa
[07:53] <crazyivan> hey i got a question. how do i know if the message i send to someone is in red
[07:53] <crazyivan> like when i receive an response usually the font is in red
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Huh, thats weird, windows can now see all 160 gigs of my harddrive, is that because I used a version of grub that ignores the bios?
[07:53] <skyl> crazyivan, put their name in the message
[07:53] <Jordan_U> crazyivan: If you included their nick in the message it will be highlighted in their client
[07:53] <crazyivan> is that it?
[07:53] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  now, try real hard not to break anything... doing stuff in a rootshell means you can cause a lot of damage with just one mistyped command
[07:53] <Jordan_U> crazyivan: Yes
[07:53] <crazyivan> skyl, is this successfuL?
[07:54] <fbok> hey guys - looking to install multiple test sites of joomla on an ubuntu box - any recommendations?
[07:54] <skyl> cra ... yes, and this is not ...
[07:54] <Madpilot> crazyivan, useful trick - Tab complete. Type the first four letters or so of someone's nick, then hit Tab. It should auto-complete the nick for you.
[07:54] <crazyivan> zcat[1], Yea im not messing with my root directory, i just wanted to know i could access it
[07:54] <deadant2> anybody know how i can have my virtualbox xp drive usable in ubuntu?
[07:54] <skyl> fbok, learn python :P
[07:55] <crazyivan> does anyone know how to execute mono? i want to code in C#
[07:55] <FireCrotch> deadant2: Share the drive via Samba (Windows file sharing)
[07:55] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U: debsums: no md5sums for xserver-xorg-video-all  Does that mean I should reinstall that package?  It also pointed out some with invalid lines which I know I need to reinstall
[07:56] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  another handy trick, press alt-F2 and type 'gksu nautilus' -- you'll get a file browser running as root and you can do stuff from there.. I think if you rightclick and edit, for example, it will launch gedit also as root..
[07:56] <TopDollar2009> Hi. Desparate newbie. Unsure of protocol. Update manager issue. Was referred.
[07:57] <deadant2> FireCrotch, thanks, i'' try that. So that would make it so i can accsess my mp3's from ubuntu (i have xp for ipod syncing) and way i can do it in reverse so i can have my music while not running virtualbox
[07:57] <fbok> any ideas anyone?  I basically just want to hav ea couple of test sites to perfect before I put them on a host
[07:57] <zcat[1]> TopDollar2009:  just drop the question and wait patiently...
[07:58] <crazyivan> zcat[1], any tips on how to memorize all these command lines? you seem to be good at it
[07:58] <FireCrotch> deadant2: I would recommend storing your music in Ubuntu in your home directory, and share that via samba
[07:58] <Madpilot> crazyivan, it comes w/ practice
[07:59] <Madpilot> ubottu, terminal |  crazyivan
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: I don't know, can't hurt ( unless there are a lot of packages without md5sums )
[07:59] <losha> Thunder_Drop: in that particular case, I think xserver-xorg-video-all is a pseudo-package, so it's probably harmless to ignore. Or you could reinstall it, but save your old xorg.conf first...
[07:59] <TopDollar2009> OK.. dropping question: Working Wubi installation, no probs. Ran update manager, all went swimmingly. Rebooted, "limited bash", no GUI, no nothing. Totally lost. Am attempting new Wubi install and swap out root.disk, only thing I can think of. Any help greatly appreciated.
[07:59] <deadant2> FireCrotch, thanks - will try
[07:59] <crazyivan> zcat[1], i tried that command you gave me "gksu nautilus" and nothing happened
[07:59] <xiaosa> 全英文？我晕！
[08:00] <crazyivan> Madpilot, thx man i'll check it out. I am new to Linux
[08:00] <kristian_> im thinking of buying a western digital external hard disk, either "my book elite" or "my passport elite", will i face any problems using this with ubuntu, or is it just plug and play? thanks! :-)
[08:00] <gartral> i set ubuntu 9.10 in a vm, and i set the resolution higher. but it didn't take, i have something akin to a video200 like screen, the display thing has "lost" the larger resolutions, how do i set my screensize back to a proper 4:3 aspect res?
[08:00] <alabd> Good day everyone , how to use java that has been installed manually in firefox ?
[08:00] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  really? It should have launched a filebrowser
[08:01] <Jordan_U> kristian_: If it's a standard usb / firewire mass storage device it will work fine
[08:01] <nomad77> !cn | xiaosa
[08:01] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U: well there are about 12 that had no chksum  Here are the results just for your curiosity... http://pastebin.com/m7f79a597  some of those seem important
[08:01] <crazyivan> zcat[1], it didnt do anything, I am running Crunchbang Linux lite edition
[08:01] <zcat[1]> oh, ok...
[08:01] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, so all you have is a command line?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> kristian_: If it's NAS then it might not, but it almost certainly is just regular usbms
[08:02] <crazyivan> zcat[1], Maybe It isnt installed on my system yet or something?
[08:02] <Madpilot> crazyivan, um, this is #ubuntu, not #crunchbang or whatever...
[08:02] <TopDollar2009> Correct, greezemonkey, and startx doesn't work.
[08:02] <crazyivan> Madpilot, yea but i think crunchbang is a ubuntu distribute
[08:02] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  possibly... not familiar with crunchbang... never heard of it in fact
[08:03] <Madpilot> crazyivan, it might be based on Ubuntu, but that doesn't mean it works the same
[08:03] <crazyivan> zcat[1] yea you should look it up, its very cool but unfortunatly i am so used to damn windows im having trouble now with it
[08:03] <kristian_> Jordan_U: ok then i presume they will work then. (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=754 & http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=740)
[08:03] <optimizer> what's a good tablet pc taht runs ubuntu and doesn't have a keyboardf?
[08:03] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U: You think I should reinstall all of them? just to be safe?
[08:03] <Madpilot> crazyivan, there's a #crunchbang channel, might want to join it
[08:03] <gartral> crunchbang is Ubuntu without a UI.. i.e. it's almost completly devoid of the ability to run x/gnome/kde
[08:03] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: You can add "2> errors.txt" to the command to log the errors as well
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Yes
[08:04] <crazyivan> Madpilot, thats true but about half the command lines you guys have given me have actually worked, zcat[1] helped me bypass an error and access my root directory
[08:04] <Madpilot> gartral, OK, that matters enormously, and would be why crazyivan couldn't get "gksu nautilus" to work...
[08:04] <nomad77> Madpilot: its ubuntu variant using openbox setup
[08:04] <Thunder_Drop> losha:  I don't have anything worth backing up as its a fresh install but thanks for the tip
[08:04] <crazyivan> madpilot, what is the #crunchbang channel? how do i connect to it?
[08:04] <losha> Thunder_Drop: I'd definitely install the ones that say 'invalid line'. Then see how it goes. It's generally harmless to reinstall a package....
[08:05] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  yes, as mentioned elsewhere if you don't have a gui then you don't have gnome, so you won't have gksu OR nautilus ;)
[08:05] <gartral> Madpilot: yep, that's exactly his problem, tell him to install gnome
[08:05] <Madpilot> crazyivan, "/join #crunchbang" without the quotes around it
[08:05] <crazyivan> i would hate leaving this channel cus you guys have been so helpful but i guess i gotta go to my os channel
[08:05] <Sabir> ActionParsnip Good morning, I waited for you to continue the conversation about the sound through HDMI on a video card GT220.
[08:05] <Cuddles> quick question when I run "uptime" it always tells me there is two users why is that?
[08:05] <Thunder_Drop> Jordan_U: losha: well thanks for the help... hopefully after I reinstall I won't have any more problems... If I do I'll try to figure out what is causing the corruption so I can be of some help
[08:05] <gartral> Madpilot: it's dead in there
[08:05] <Madpilot> crazyivan, you can be in multiple channels
[08:05] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  or you could just install ubuntu and stay here ;)
[08:05] <crazyivan> madpilot, and i type this in my terminal right?
[08:06] <nomad77> crazyivan: they have forums also and wiki  http://crunchbanglinux.org/
[08:06] <Madpilot> crazyivan, in the same place you're typing what you're saying to us
[08:06] <Sabir> ActionParsnip I tried to do what you recommended yesterday, but to no avail.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: i've never setup that or advised it, i'm no good at sound problems
[08:06] <crazyivan> zcat[1] hmmmm depends. How much better is ubuntu than linux?
[08:06] <gartral> Madpilot crazyivan #crunchbang is emtpy almost
[08:06] <losha> Thunder_Drop: in practice, it's virtually impossible to track down the cause of a corruption unless you're a filesystem/kernel expert, so don't sweat it too much, ok?
[08:06]  * gartral will pretend he didn't read crazyivanlast post
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: i can get video out of it ok, why not use your soundcard and get some speakers instead, less hassle
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: It's really interesting that it's not random corruption, it's ( in one case ) parts of the cups binary
[08:07] <zcat[1]> crazyivan:  well, ubuntu -is- linux still, and it's awesome
[08:07] <filthynoob> Hi guys I'm having some problems getting the x windows system thing working
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Thunder_Drop: Are you sure you aren't using ext3?
[08:07] <Madpilot> gartral, not trying to be mean, but crunchbang isn't ubuntu...
[08:07] <filthynoob> would anyone be willing to help me solve this?
[08:07] <crazyivan> gartral lol why pertend? If you want i can spam that message for you
[08:07] <ikonia> filthynoob: what's the problem ?
[08:07] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, hmm, it's a good thing you installed as wubi. Did you install over Win7 ?
[08:08] <crazyivan> oh well i do have linux, so technically i have ubuntu then, since you say ubuntu -is- linux
[08:08] <gartral> Madpilot: technically, yes it is, in the same respect that, at heart, Ubuntu is Debian
[08:08] <filthynoob> ikonia: I've recently installed ubuntu 9.10 on my friends computer
[08:08] <ikonia> crazyivan: are you using ubuntu linux - yes/no ?
[08:08] <losha> Jordan_U: yep, dunno what it means that the corruption is so localized though...
[08:08] <crazyivan> ikonia no
[08:08] <gartral> i set ubuntu 9.10 in a vm, and i set the resolution higher. but it didn't take, i have something akin to a video200 like screen, the display thing has "lost" the larger resolutions, how do i set my screensize back to a proper 4:3 aspect res?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> filthynoob: keep it on one line, its easier to read
[08:08] <ikonia> crazyivan: then this channel is not a support channel for you
[08:08] <TopDollar2009> Greezemonkey, wouldn't bury my dog in any new version of windows. Installed over XP Home. :)
[08:08] <Madpilot> gartral, nevertheless. the differences matter - pure cli vs gnome vs kde etc etc
[08:08] <Sabir> ActionParsnip Less hassle, but this is the path of least resistance. In fact, it is recognition that the possibility Ubuntu less than a well-known competitor.
[08:08] <crazyivan> ikonia so you trying to kick me out?
[08:08] <ikonia> crazyivan: this channel only offers support for ubuntu linux
[08:08] <ikonia> crazyivan: end of discussion
[08:08]  * Sabir sad
[08:09] <Thunder_Drop> losha: Jordan_U:  I deffinetlly have ext4 and no I'm not going to try to investigate too hard but if it happens again I'll figure it out faster and find out what I did that caused it.... If i can
[08:09] <crazyivan> ikonia ok so kick me out. Al mighty admin
[08:09] <plitter> does someone know a way to record video from skype?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: competitor?
[08:09] <skyl> wow, that was great, I d/led the whole isp and the lynx didn't want to write it to file
[08:09] <TopDollar2009> News... does seem to be the root.disk somewhere. Putting it in caused the same issue.
[08:09] <ikonia> crazyivan: just keep on topic, there will be no problem. The topic is Ubuntu linux support
[08:09] <losha> crazyivan: he will, you know...
[08:09] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, I did some looking, but all I could find pointed to the same thing. Essentially there is a reinstall in your immediate future.
[08:09] <crazyivan> ikonia well I will leave to my proper channel sorry if i got off topic
[08:10] <skyl> plitter, multimedia?  best just to go play outside
[08:10] <ikonia> crazyivan: no problem
[08:10] <gartral> Madpilot: so what your saying is, even though they're the _same_ kernal,and _same_ team (prettymuch) kubuntu can never _ever_ recieve support from #ubuntu?
[08:10] <ikonia> filthynoob: so what's the actual problem ?
[08:10] <skyl> gtk-recordmydesktop might work though actually
[08:10] <crazyivan> Goodbye everyone thx for all the help!
[08:10] <filthynoob> ikonia: when I first rebooted it after I installed it it screwed up, I was going to reinstall it later, but someone turned it and it worked fine, well for about a week we've been playing around with it and its been okay. Keep in mind this machine has been kept offline until today. I tried restarting it and I got this error '[drm:intelfb_restore] *ERROR* Failed to restore crtc configuration: -22' spamming the screen
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: just because I cannot help doesnt mean the other 1200 users in here can't
[08:10] <TopDollar2009> So it would seem. I wish there were some other alternative. If there is an update issue, then won't a new install simply repeat the problem if an update goes with it, tho?
[08:10] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, I mean unless you are willing to put yourself through immense pain for the potential that you will end up reinstalling anyway.
[08:10] <zcat[1]> Why do people even bother with wubi or dual boot? Get a second machine already... people are giving away machines that run ubuntu just fine...
[08:10] <Madpilot> gartral, from all reports, #kubuntu is an active and thriving channel. No reason to use #ubuntu...
[08:10] <plitter> skyl: i mean record a lecture when ur not there
[08:11] <gartral> Madpilot: that's not what I asked
[08:11] <Sabir> ActionParsnip well, thank you.
[08:11] <filthynoob> I got it hooked up to the internets a little bit ago and did an upgrade and installed some new apps from command line
[08:11] <ikonia> filthynoob: I guess it depends what you mean by "it's was screwed" and what "someone did to turn it"
[08:11] <Madpilot> zcat[1], because using the machine you already have takes up less desk/floor space?
[08:11] <TopDollar2009> zcat. Personally with you, but my wife and I share her notebook. She likes winDoze.
[08:11] <iceroot> zcat[1]: because maybe you dont want 2 pcs in your room
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: i'm still perplexed by competitor
[08:11] <TopDollar2009> Thanx tho. I'll just have 2 reinstall.
[08:11] <TopDollar2009> Peace.
[08:12] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, It's hard to say. I had a wubi install that (believe it or not) worked beautifully on a Dell Insp 1100. One day it tanked, and that was it. add/remove programs...:/
[08:12] <filthynoob> ikonia: nobody has messed with it really. No else that has had access to it knows anything about computers and just played with rythmbox or sudoku
[08:12] <gartral> zcat[1]: mainly cause a second system uses more power, eats more in-home real estate and produces that much more heat, also, no two procs will ever perform exactly the same
[08:13] <zcat[1]> hmmm, also if you use wubi I would suggest never trying to update....
[08:13] <ikonia> filthynoob: you said "someone turned it" so someone must have done something
[08:13] <greezmunkey> TopDollar2009, I had another on this machine that worked great until folks in here convinced me to format and install it right.
[08:13] <Sabir> ActionParsnip Under competitor I meant MS Windows
[08:14] <filthynoob> ikonia: I started in command line and could get around the system pretty well, but when I tried startx it gave me that same error message but didn't spam the screen. Someone turned it back on after I turned it off when it I got that error a week ago
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: so what if it became more popular, what would cange?
[08:14] <ikonia> filthynoob: this mail chain may help you
[08:14] <ikonia> filthynoob: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1823901.html
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: the devs would still code and users would log bugs and the world would still spin
[08:14] <ikonia> filthynoob: it appears there is a bug logged for this
[08:14] <gartral> zcat[1]: i performed updates on a wubi install... it's a pain, but i got it >.>
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: its not about competing, its just giving users choice
[08:15] <filthynoob> ya I googled this and found that out
[08:15] <filthynoob> but there doesn't seem to be any fix for it
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: its not a competition at all
[08:15] <ikonia> filthynoob: looking at the bug, there doesn't appear to be a fix at this time but a few work arounds, but they do have drawbacks
[08:15] <zcat[1]> well, no dual-boot issues here; all our computers run only ubuntu.
[08:15] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[08:15]  * Ed54 gives ikonia :ikonia!n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give ikonia a test.
[08:15]  * PL|Snoozing gives ikonia a Wiimote.
[08:15]  * PL|Snoozing gives Ed54 a Goomba.
[08:15]  * schwezzy gives ikonia a hydraulic pump
[08:15] <Sabir> ActionParsnip I like Ubuntu, and the problem I have only one.
[08:16] <filthynoob> What would be a good work around?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Sabir: fine, but linux isnt competing with anything
[08:16] <greezmunkey> filthynoob :) nice nick...
[08:16] <manas> hi all
[08:17] <coz_> manas,  welcome
[08:17] <zcat[1]> byebye bots...
[08:17] <manas> thanks
[08:17] <manas> there's no icon for my laptop battery on my panel
[08:17] <manas> can i add it there??
[08:17] <filthynoob> :< wut do i do
[08:18] <Tommi> OK
[08:18] <zcat[1]> manas:  system > preferences > power management I think
[08:18] <Tommi> so I had an issue earlier today with changing the path for sudo..
[08:18] <Brack10> Hi
[08:18] <coz_> manas,  I am looking under the panel  Add to panel hold on
[08:18] <Cuddles> anyone know why, when I type "uptime" it tells me there are two people connected?
[08:18] <Cuddles> I'm connecting over putty fyi
[08:18] <Tommi> if anyone else had this issue, please just google 'sudo sudoers path' or something, and upgrade to 9.10 for a bug fix
[08:19] <losha> Cuddles: which two people?
[08:19] <Brack10> I lost power during nvidia upgrade.  I got it to work, but hw acceleration doesn't work.  I tried switching driver versions, uninstalling reinstalling.  Keeps saying the kernel module is a different version than the driver.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:19] <gribouille> hi
[08:19] <Cuddles> Just sez 2 users
[08:19] <zcat[1]> manas:  system > preferences > power management, general tab, when to display the battery icon is on there
[08:19] <manas> thanks
[08:19] <losha> Cuddles: type: who
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: do you have the kernel headers for your running kernel?
[08:19] <coz_> manas,  I see nothing under panel / add to panel
[08:20] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: I don't know
[08:20] <greezmunkey> manas, there are (I believe) three options for showing the power state..
[08:20] <manas> ahh
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: run: uname -a    that is your running kernel
[08:20] <zcat[1]> coz_:  it's not there, it's in power management settings
[08:20] <manas> thanks zcat
[08:20] <Brack10> Linux travis-desktop 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: run:    dpkg -l | grep linux | grep head
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: i dont want the output, its for you to read
[08:20] <coz_> zcat[1],  ah ok  thanks I will try to remember that :)
[08:20] <Cuddles> thx losha, looks like its just me, but why am I connected twice?
[08:20] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: Yes I have them
[08:21] <coz_> Cuddles,   I have 3 users showing
[08:21] <Madpilot> Cuddles, they're both you. Can't remember the gory details, but two is normal
[08:21] <crazyivan> im back
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: ok what's the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:21] <Cuddles> kk thx again!
[08:21] <zcat[1]> except in 10.04 the gnome developers will probably remove the option to configure it...
[08:21] <crazyivan> no help at all in the crunchbang section
[08:21] <greezmunkey> Cuddles, terminal winows open?
[08:21] <losha> Cuddles: I bet a previous connection didn't terminate properly. It's ok to ignore it unless it's using up lots of cpu time...
[08:21] <MJEvans> !toi
[08:21] <MJEvans> !tuxonice
[08:21] <ikonia> crazyivan: yes there is they wold you where to go - that does not mean this channel is support for you
[08:22] <Cuddles> Not sure, no monitor on the ubuntu sys, running putty
[08:22]  * greezmunkey hates his "d" key
[08:22] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)
[08:22] <zcat[1]> !botabuse | MJEvans
[08:22] <manas> also, ubuntu is asking for authentication for almost everything i do
[08:22] <MJEvans> Was anyone in here asking about tuxonice about 30 min ago?
[08:22] <crazyivan> ikonia, damn why dont you get off my ass! I've barely been in here 5 seconds and you want to kick me
[08:22] <manas> are their any settings to do away with this
[08:22] <ikonia> crazyivan: no - I want you to respect the topic, exactly as I told you before
[08:23] <zcat[1]> !info tuxonice-userui
[08:23] <crazyivan> ikonia and i'll tell you exactly as i've told you before, get off my ass
[08:23] <MJEvans> zcat[1]: thanks
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: ok run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove then reboot, after run: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 nvidia-185-modaliases
[08:23] <crazyivan> ikonia you assume ima get off topic, Obviously now i am cus you lead me to it
[08:23] <sybariten> I'm on hardy, a fresh upgrade you could maybe say, and want to install a package that wants libgnutls26. Appearently libgnutls26 isnt available in hardy. Whats your suggestion? I am reading on the forums about this
[08:23] <filthynoob> can someone translate http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1825991.html for me?
[08:23] <sybariten> but there are many suggestions
[08:23] <Madpilot> manas, you can set Ubuntu up to have passwordless sudo, but this is NOT recommended...
[08:23] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: sounds like you know wtf you're talking about.  Will do
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: you could also try the alpha 190 driver
[08:24] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: I'm in
[08:24] <Brack10> wait alpha...hm
[08:24] <sybariten> or could this be a simple issue of my sources.list being "not otpimal" ?
[08:24] <manas> oh ok Madpilot
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: if you read it, its very logical
[08:24] <manas> then il just leave it as it is
[08:24] <crazyivan> What are the risks of saving files in your root directory?
[08:24] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: is 190 alpha relatively stable?
[08:24] <Brack10> and any benefit over 180?
[08:24] <greezmunkey> filthynoob, sorry, I was watching the show...translate what please?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978    yeah I use them on my 6150 works fine
[08:25] <chu__> Is there like a pdflatex mode in emacs? I'm using M-x compile at the moment, just seems like it could be a waste of key strokes and there's probably a faster solution.
[08:26] <AdvoWork> are there any limits of how much memory can be on a pc/server running ubuntu? ie 8GB should be fine right?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: if you are gonna use the 190, install it after the reboot so you remove all the old nvidia stuff
[08:26] <greezmunkey> AdvoWork, good question
[08:26] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: you're the man
[08:27] <losha> sybariten: where's the package coming from? If it wasn't build for hardy, it might never work...
[08:27] <Kerio> i am tunneling vnc through putty, i start the x11vnc service through putty then usually connect through vnc without a password. But now it asks for a password i havent set
[08:27] <Kerio> any ideas?
[08:27] <sutabi> anyone know of there is tool to help me download stuff? My wifi is chop and a lot of what I download is currupted
[08:27] <MJEvans> AdvoWork: There are no ubuntu imposed memory limits.  However if you run a 32 bit kernel/install then obviously only 4gb at most will be supported (some of which will be used for mapping system hardware like video-cards).  If you use a 64 bit kernel then potentially all installed memory might be used; provided your motherboard supports it.
[08:28] <greezmunkey> MJEvans, (thanks) good to know
[08:28] <sybariten> losha: no, i see your point. Its a chatlient, weechat, and i've added their own repo to sources.list (i dont know much about repositories!) ... they said that "99 percent of the times, Debian stable packages will work on hardy"
[08:28] <MJEvans> greezmunkey: None of my systems have >4GB of RAM, but two of my systems have 4GB of actual RAM usable, plus the memory-mapped devices.
[08:29] <sybariten> losha: so i suppose these are "debian stable" packages i am trying to install.
[08:29] <gribouille> I have a strange problem with karmic (dual boot) : when I boot Windows XP, the next time I try to boot, the grub menu disappears and I have to reinstall grub manually. any idea ?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Kerio: why have you not set a password on the VNC server?
[08:29] <jimbeam12> hey wsup all
[08:29] <Madpilot> sybariten, and 1% of the time, they'll eat your brains :)
[08:29] <losha> sybariten: well congratulations, you just hit the 1%....
[08:30] <Madpilot> sybariten, you do know that weechat is in the Ubuntu universe repo, right?
[08:30] <jimbeam12> does anyone like ubuntu 9.10
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> !info weechat
[08:30] <jimbeam12> hiya ActionParsnip
[08:30] <filthynoob> would anyone know how someone could have "booted in single mode and with i915.modeset=0"
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: s'alright, pretty much the same for me since gutsy
[08:30] <sybariten> madpilor, losh: in a way, yes... but maybe if i got the libgnutls26 into the system, there wont be a problem. But i dont know how dangerous _that_ is
[08:30] <rww> the new version of weechat is much better, but not packaged that I know :(
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: and howdy
[08:30] <Cuddles> !ls
[08:30] <greezmunkey> MJEvans, nice, I was planning to bump my "server" to 4GB, I didn't even think about a potential limit in the OS. There are some brainstorm entries mentioning a practical limit of just over 3GB, but you can use 4. That's good. Thanks again.
[08:30] <sybariten> Madpilot, not Madpilor
[08:31] <sybariten> losha, not losh
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> rww: ppa-search.appspot.com
[08:31] <jimbeam12> yeah a few bugs with ati radeon cards trying to remove the watermark but all fixed now
[08:31] <sybariten> Madpilot: yes i know, but its an old unsupported version...   for my hardy....  ofcourse.
[08:31] <Madpilot> sybariten, you'll quickly (very, very quickly) wander into dependency hell, and breaking your entire system. libgnutls26 will depend on something else, etc etc
[08:31] <Guest61767> Hi all.
[08:32] <Madpilot> sybariten, is upgrading your Hardy install to a newer non-LTS version of Ubuntu not a possibility?
[08:32] <losha> sybariten: well, you can try compiling weechat from source, but then you may also need to compile libgnutls26 etc. etc. and who knows where it will end?
[08:32] <sybariten> Madpilot: yeah....  linux hell
[08:32] <jimbeam12> i was about to throw the towel in ActionParsnip but found the answer last sec..hehe
[08:32] <rww> ActionParsnip: which doesn't turn up anything, so it's still not packaged that I know of ;P
[08:32] <gartral> i set ubuntu 9.10 in a vm, and i set the resolution higher. but it didn't take, i have something akin to a video200 like screen, the display thing has "lost" the larger resolutions, how do i set my screensize back to a proper 4:3 aspect res? please.. this is preventing me from updating
[08:32] <sybariten> Madpilot: you mean distro upgrading to Jacky or whatever they are called?  Jaunty?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> rww: yeah s'only got 2.6.1 but theres nothing stopping ypu compiling it
[08:32] <Madpilot> sybariten, you'd have to go Hardy->Intrepid->Jaunty - no skipping versions
[08:32] <sybariten> losha: it won't.  :-)
[08:33] <rww> ActionParsnip: which I did. You're overhelping ;P
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> rww: bah, share the deb dude ;)
[08:33] <sybariten> Madpilot: yeah, the thing is i just did a distro upgrade last night, from gutsy to hardy. i thought that would be the Solution To All Problems
[08:33] <sybariten> been running gutsy for some years
[08:33] <gartral> rww ActionParsnip yes there is, once you compile your own kernal, the #ubuntu chan, by policy, can't help you (or was that lifted?)
[08:33] <sybariten> i guess i believed that if a version is "non-dead", it means it has new packages but appearently it doesnt work like that
[08:34] <rww> ActionParsnip: I don't have a deb of it. I compiled it from source, and distributing checkinstall debs is problematic.
[08:34] <MJEvans> greezmunkey: Again, even when using only 4gb of RAM you have to go to the amd64 version of ubuntu to do that for consumer hardware (you must also have a recent processor; at least the Athlon64 and later or something like Intel Core2 or later)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> gartral: i thought we were on about weechat
[08:34] <losha> sybariten: so 3 solutions: a) upgrade or b) use the old version of hardy weechat or c) compile from source. The only easy one is (b)
[08:34] <Madpilot> sybariten, the LTS releases are stable, but not the newest stuff. that's the LTS tradeoff. If you want the new shiny, you have to dist-upgrade past the LTS
[08:34]  * gartral read wrong name/post combo
[08:34]  * ActionParsnip does it all the time
[08:34] <sybariten> Madpilot: ok, first, what does LTS mean?
[08:34] <gartral> i set ubuntu 9.10 in a vm, and i set the resolution higher. but it didn't take, i have something akin to a video200 like screen, the display thing has "lost" the larger resolutions, how do i set my screensize back to a proper 4:3 aspect res? please.. this is preventing me from updating ...
[08:34] <losha> !lts
[08:34] <gartral> !LTS
[08:35] <Madpilot> sybariten, "Long Term Support"
[08:35] <sybariten> ah ok
[08:35] <greezmunkey> MJEvans, IOW 64bit ver, right.
[08:35] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: Did what you said, same result
[08:35] <gartral> that repost wasn't intentional, i hit my "backup and enter" macro key trying to typeout !lts
[08:35] <losha> gartral: have you tried using the xrandr -size command?
[08:35] <sybariten> so Madpilot is there any way of doing a good assumption of "how far i have to go" in order to get this weechat i want? I mean, it could be all the way to karmic i guess
[08:36] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: travis-desktop kernel: [   26.070259] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 180.51, but
[08:36] <Brack10> NVRM: this kernel module has the version 180.44.  Please
[08:36] <goose> what's that SSH shortcut, where instead of typing out the full "ssh user@hostblahblahblah" I can type out "ssh server" and it'll know "server" means "user@blahblahblah" ?
[08:36] <losha> sybariten: that's a lot of effort for a stupid irc client....
[08:36] <gartral> losha: yes, it just errors out, saying the device doesn't support resizing
[08:36] <losha> gartral: sorry, that was my best shot...
[08:37] <Madpilot> sybariten, packages.ubuntu.com - check for weechat in all verisons, check which Ubuntu release has the weechat version you want
[08:37] <sybariten> losha: no, a lot of effort is installing an OS just to run old software on it...
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: did you remove all the nvidia packages? then add the nvidia repo and install the 190 driver?
[08:37] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: no, what's the nvidia repo?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: i gave you a link. i'll give it again
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: actually not that one
[08:38] <zcat[1]> sybariten:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/weechat
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: much easier: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-190-25-beta-drivers-in-ubuntu-jauntyintrepidhardy.html
[08:39] <Brack10> thanks
[08:39] <rww> ActionParsnip: heh, apparently lucid has 3.0.2 anyway, so I guess I can stop using a compiled version :)
[08:39] <rww> 0.3.0 **
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> rww: nice
[08:40] <zcat[1]> for any package not in the main repos, I always google 'foo ppa' and see if there's a ppa of it somewhere
[08:40] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: here we go again :)
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: remove the old first, reboot, then follow that
[08:40] <MaxNomad> Greetings all, anyone have a link to a tutorial for recovering Ubuntu 9.04 GRUB4DOS stuff that has been installed within Windows environment? The standard GRUB recovery method doesn't work
[08:41] <sybariten> Madpilot: ok, interesting, i dont see 0.3.x of weechat in any of those releases, although the weechat page itself mentions at least karmic ..... for apt/deb. I'm confused
[08:41] <sybariten> zcat[1]: thank you....
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> MaxNomad: if its installed in windows, doesnt that make it a windows app?
[08:42] <MJEvans> MaxNomad: I have only a guess what grub4dos does, but the simple solution is likely just installing grub normally and then fixing whatever garbage is left in the windows area.
[08:42] <Madpilot> sybariten, some Linux projects use a numbering convention where odd numbers are unstable testing releases, even are stable mainstream releases - weechat might do this?
[08:42] <gribouille> dpes grub2 use menu.lst ?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: no it uses grub.cfgwhich is generated using scripts
[08:42] <MJEvans> gribouille: you want to look at the files in /etc/grub/
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | gribouille
[08:43] <kartook> how can i add the VLC player on UBuntu LIVE DVD
[08:43] <gribouille> ok, thanks
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: you CAN edit the file but next time a new kernel is added the scripts will be ran and the change will be lost
[08:43] <MJEvans> hum... sticking around during thanksgiving...  Happy holiday for any in the US
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: to make them permanent you must addd stuff to the config scripts
[08:43] <MaxNomad> MJEvans: I tried that and it was a no go... even tried the SuperGrubDisk route...
[08:44] <sybariten> Madpilot: hm, no, i dont think so in this case.
[08:44] <goose> what's that SSH shortcut, where instead of typing out the full "ssh user@hostblahblahblah" I can type out "ssh server" and it'll know "server" means "user@hostblahblahblah" ?
[08:44] <Azeotrope> I installed KDE in Ubuntu and it fucked up everthing. Gnome loaded mouse cursors, KDE loaded screenlets and avant. Nasty
[08:44] <gribouille> ActionParsnip: I have a strange problem with karmic (dual boot) : when I boot Windows XP, the next time I try to boot, the grub menu disappears and I have to reinstall grub manually. any idea ?
[08:44] <MJEvans> MaxNomad: SGD won't work if you don't have a proper /boot area setup first.
[08:44] <sybariten> goose: wouldnt you need something like putty for that?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: not sure, maybe its a bug. I dont dual boot
[08:45] <goose> sybariten: don't think so. my old SA used to do that. I forgot how, though. and my server's host name is uncomfortably long.
[08:45] <zcat[1]> Azeotrope:  there's a howto on removing it but I can't recall where... ;)
[08:45] <sybariten> goose: are you using bash?
[08:45] <MJEvans> MaxNomad: Read how to install Grub / Grub2 for the first time; manually; from a booted linux install.  Be prepared to recover your windows mbr via some method.   Good luck.
[08:45] <goose> sybariten: yes
[08:45] <fsc> goose: you can set this in ~/.ssh/config, look at man ssh_config for more info
[08:45] <sybariten> goose: well then you dont have a problem. Either makea function, or type ctrl-r and a part of the servername  :)
[08:45] <goose> fsc: thank you
[08:45] <Azeotrope> zcat[1]: I managed to uninstall it with no side effects but.. I'm kinda disappointed...
[08:45] <MaxNomad> MJEvans: yeah, SGD didn't work but that eventually served to remind me that when I originally installed this version I had it install *within* Windows... it's not on a separate partition
[08:46] <MJEvans> MaxNomad: /boot -can- sometimes be on  your root partition...
[08:46] <gribouille> is grub1 available on karmic ?
[08:46] <AdvoWork> MJEvans, so basically, if we use 4gb on 2 servers, were fine installing ubuntu 32bit kernel, 8gb needs 64bit, aslong as the mobo is fine with that?
[08:46] <zcat[1]> mjevans 'sometimes'? I thought it was th default?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: or PAE
[08:48]  * ActionParsnip kicks his SQL server
[08:49] <schmukkk> where do i turn off that obnoxious ticking noise?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> schmukkk: when does it occur?
[08:49] <Kerio> i am tunneling vnc through putty, i start the x11vnc service through putty then usually connect through vnc without a password. But now it asks for a password i havent set
[08:49] <schmukkk> when clicking gtk buttons
[08:49] <Cuddles> one more question how come I cant pint thru putty, to a web address IE: "ping google.com"
[08:49] <Kerio> any ideas?
[08:49] <Cuddles> yet I can ping other computers in my network
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Kerio: you may find its the password on the vnc server
[08:50] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: dpkg complains about dependency problems when trying to install 190 or 185
[08:50] <Kerio> but i havent set any password
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: can you pastebin the outputs please
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> Kerio: why not?
[08:50] <Kerio> cause i thought it was secure enough to start the x11vnc through putty each time i was gonna connect
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> schmukkk: check in sound prefs, you can set sounds for stuff there, I simply uninstall ubuntu-sounds and they all get removed
[08:51] <Madpilot> schmukkk, System->Prefs->Sound, make sure "window/button sounds" is unticked
[08:51] <schmukkk> aha
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Kerio: looks like its needed, I'd set one too as folks on your lan may connect and spy on you too
[08:51] <schmukkk> ill uninstall, as i dont have pulseaudio i cant so system-prefs->sound
[08:51] <schmukkk> *uninstall ubuntu-sounds
[08:51] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m49ad932a
[08:52] <Kerio> but how will they know if i tunnel it shrough ssh2?
[08:52] <adamant_> salut
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-sounds
[08:52] <gribouille> sudo apt-get install grub-legacy : E: Package grub-legacy has no installation candidate. what does that mean ?
[08:52] <Kerio> they have to connect through vnc the excat momen i start it
[08:52] <Cuddles> !ping
[08:52] <schmukkk> pong
[08:52] <Kerio> anyways, what could the password be if i havent set any???
[08:53] <Cuddles> Is it a security issue to ping through putty?
[08:53] <schmukkk> Cuddles, ?
[08:53] <rww> gribouille: it means grub-legacy isn't a package in your current repositories. I think you're looking for the "grub" package.
[08:53] <Kerio> this happend after i installed some secutiry updates
[08:53] <Cuddles> if I try to "ping google.com" it doesnt do anything yet if I ping another computer on the network it does
[08:53] <gribouille> rww, I want to replace grub2 with the old grub
[08:54] <rww> gribouille: "grub" is the old grub. "grub-pc" (or -efi or whatever if you're not on standard hardware) is grub 2.
[08:54] <rww> gribouille: I'm not sure if you have to do additional steps to get it to work, though.
[08:54] <Kerio> i dont get it, putty is warning me that "im running vnc without a password" still it ask for a password
[08:55] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: i'm websearching dude, i'm not THAT fast
[08:55] <Kerio> a password i havent set. Any ideas of what this could be or a solution for resetting it?
[08:55] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: heh.  what's dkms?
[08:55] <Azeotrope> What encryption does 9.10 use? The default /home and swap
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: it generates the kernel module from source
[08:55] <manas> hi
[08:55] <manas> i have a problem
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> !info dkms
[08:56] <manas> whenever i minimize a window
[08:56] <manas> it vanishes
[08:56] <manas> i dont see it down at the panel
[08:56] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: seems to be building my nivida 190 module
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> cool :D
[08:56] <Cuddles> any ideas on this? since if i run apt-get it has no problems finding the apps im lf
[08:56] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: You rule
[08:56] <Brack10> brb
[08:57] <manas> i like the startmenu to be at the bottom like in windows so i deleted the panel at the top of the screen and added the menu in th ebottom one
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> manas: you can use the gnomeXP script if you like to make the whole thing look like XP
[08:57] <manas> no i dont want to do that
[08:58] <Azeotrope> how to I start a terminal in fullscreen (like pressing F11) with no scollbar?
[08:58] <indus> manas: add the window list to panel so you can see it
[08:58] <manas> i jut want to see the windows that i minimize at the panel at the bottom of the screen so that i can toggle between the windows
[08:58] <manas> ahh thanks indus
[08:59] <indus> manas: its one of the outright stupidity of ubuntu
[08:59] <gribouille> can someone tell me how I can remove grub2 and install the old grub instead ?
[08:59] <ReAn> this is gonna sound strange as hell, but i wanna pull the .deb for php5-curl from 9.04's package repo and install it from a file vs. through download via apt-get (mainly cuz my system's having issues w/ connectivity outside of my VM right now) is this possible?
[08:59] <indus> no one here seems to have noticed it though
[08:59] <manas> one thing more
[08:59] <manas> im new to linux
[08:59] <manas>  so i dont know much about it
[08:59] <indus> manas: yeah tell me
[09:00] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: Seemed to work
[09:00] <manas> i have downloaded skype for linux
[09:00] <manas> but how do i install it
[09:00] <Brack10> except I can't enable compiz for some reason
[09:00] <indus> it is something which should be enabled default, but like idiots we keep searching where our windows disappeared
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: coolness
[09:00] <indus> manas: which skype did you download
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: does: nvidia-settings   moan at all?
[09:00] <manas> the one for ubuntu 8.10
[09:00] <indus> manas: does it have a .deb extentin
  u need to remove all 3 rd party repo then only you can install the good feature in compiz
[09:01] <jimbeam12> bbl
[09:01] <manas> just a sec
[09:01] <indus> manas: well double click then
[09:01] <manas> oh
[09:01] <zcat[1]> gribouille:  apt-get install grub
[09:01] <kartook> i face the same issue in my laptop
[09:01] <zcat[1]> I think
[09:01] <Brack10> ActionParsnip: doesn't seem to
[09:01] <manas> thanks i was using mandriva before this and in that when i clicked on it just displayed all the files
[09:01] <gribouille> rww, when I install grub, it installs grub-common, which is "GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2"
[09:01] <manas> so i thought it would be the samehere
[09:02] <zcat[1]> indus:  my kids can figure out how to add things to the panel... it can't be that difficult to figure out ;)
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: ok then you can run: ccsm to configure compiz, to run it press alt+f2  and type    compiz --replace
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Brack10: if it doesnt work, run it in a terminal to get messages and use those to websearch
[09:02] <indus> zcat[1]: i shouldnt be searching for an applet as simple as windows list
[09:02] <rww> gribouille: bleh, so it does. I have no idea, then.
[09:02] <manas> also, i have installed wine because i cant really live without MS word, thats perhaps the only thing because of which i still have windows
[09:03] <indus> zcat[1]: you assume all users will search heaven and earth to figure out where windows disappeared, how can ubuntu be so stupid
[09:03] <manas> but when i try to install ms office using wine, it gives me an error
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | manas
[09:03] <indus> zcat[1]: 3 years and it still is the same
[09:03] <Madpilot> indus, everything on Ubuntu's panels is a applet, so it's all re-arrangable. Try that in MS...
[09:03] <zcat[1]> indus:  it's only a problem is you DELETE one of the panels.. in the default install everything is there
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> manas: not all apps run in wine, some refuse to install, some install and run weird, you should check the appdb to avoid disappointment
[09:04] <indus> zcat[1]: hmm yeah ok got it now
[09:04] <manas> im sorry , but whats appdp, seems to be application database by the short form
[09:04] <indus> zcat[1]: Madpilot aah missed that completely, i always delete the panel to create new one. thats why
[09:04] <zcat[1]> indus:  the thing to do is move everything to one panel before you delete the other
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> manas: ive ran 2003 in wine but realised that Abiword is a hell of a lot smaller and does exactly the same
[09:04] <indus> ok my mistake, bad oversight
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> manas: read the factoid ubottu gave
[09:04] <born2fail> hi
[09:05]  * indus hides
[09:05] <klong> hello can anyone tell me -  can you force gimp to run inside one single window
[09:05] <Madpilot> indus, right-click, Add To Panel - *everything* on the default panel is there somewhere, as well as a whole pile of other stuff
[09:05] <indus> Madpilot: yes i know, i just couldnt figure out before why i cant see my windows
[09:05] <Madpilot> klong, no. Run it on it's own desktop instead.
[09:05] <zcat[1]> klong:  there's a plugin or something for that but why would you want to?
[09:05] <indus> manas: appdb is an application database for wine
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: +1
[09:06] <Kerio> i am tunneling vnc through putty, i start the x11vnc service through putty then usually connect through vnc without a password. But now it asks for a password i havent set
[09:06] <Kerio> any ideas?
[09:06] <indus> manas: it shows you status of apps which work in wine
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> manas: it tells you what will and wont run and if you need any special settings or files for each app
[09:06] <ripps> klong: the development version actually allow you to merge the windows into one, but it's not perfect yet
[09:06] <indus> manas: which app are you trying to run?
[09:06] <manas> MS office 2007
[09:06] <infidel2> how come if i install php5 it really installs php5-common?
[09:06] <indus> manas: try open office will yea
[09:06] <quizme> i'm upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10
[09:07] <manas> sure
[09:07] <quizme> very exciting
[09:07] <infidel2> is it a symlink?
[09:07] <indus> quizme: thats called a downgrade :)
[09:07] <quizme> indus 9.04 doesn't work well ?
[09:07] <rabbitear> you people are not fast at all
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> manas: as you won't click the link yourself: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[09:07] <ftab> How can I recover the root password ? I tried different options on the web but none of them seems to be working and I don't have livecd
[09:07] <rabbitear> you should see the slackware room
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> manas: looks like it needs a bit of work but gets a silver rating so it will run but some stuff may be weird or not work
[09:08] <indus> quizme: you upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04?
[09:08] <rabbitear> slooooooooow as crap
[09:08] <infidel2> what do you mean, "you people"??
[09:08] <quizme> indus: yeah then to 9.10
[09:08] <ftab> and for some reason my sudo user has been deleted from the sudoers
[09:08] <ftab> :(
[09:08] <indus> quizme: hmm you said 9.04 to 8.10 , check
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ftab: boot to recovery root console and add the user to the admin group
[09:08] <zcat[1]> ftab:  at the grub menu press 'e' then select second line and press 'e' again, add 'init=/bin/bash' to the end of the line, press enter then 'b'
[09:08] <indus> ftab: type sudo passwd
[09:08] <quizme> indus: i said "to 9.04"
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | indus
[09:08] <indus> quizme: check your post :)
[09:08] <manas> it says "setup cannot contiinue because required file if corrupted or not available, run setup again from origional source or download location"
[09:08] <quizme> indus: i just did
[09:09] <zcat[1]> !wfm
[09:09] <indus> quizme: aah i misplaced the to and from
[09:09] <indus> yikes
[09:09] <infidel2> what are the '-common' versions of packages in apt for?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ftab: boot to recovery mode then select root, you can now re-add the user to the admin group which will allow you to use sudo
[09:09] <quizme> indus: hehe
[09:09] <indus> quizme: so what si the problem
[09:09] <indus> quizme: :D
[09:09] <quizme> indus: no problem yet, but i'm sure there will be.
[09:09] <danne__> BEEP
[09:09] <ftab> ActionParsnip, how do I go to root recovery console ?
[09:10] <manas> so .. is there a way out?? ;-)
[09:10] <indus> quizme: quick, what place is hague in
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ftab: reboot and select it in grub
[09:10] <quizme> indus: are you quizzing me ?
[09:10] <indus> :D
[09:10] <Azeotrope> How do I chose which users should appear in the login menu screen? I have one user that I want to be in the list but doesn't appear.
[09:10] <ftab> ok let me try
[09:10] <zcat[1]> ftab:  .. which should get you a root shell (with / mounted ro..) 'mount / -o remount,rw' to make / rw, then 'passwd' to change the root password, then 'mount / -o remount,ro' and you can hit the reset button to reboot.
[09:10]  * ikonia reminds the channel of the topic
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> indus: william hague, kent I think
[09:10] <craig___> Can someone help me with a skype problem
[09:10] <indus> manas: hello waiting
[09:11] <zcat[1]> !skype | craig___
[09:11] <manas> i wrote it
[09:11] <quizme> indus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hague
[09:11] <manas> the error
[09:11] <indus> !who | manas
[09:11] <manas>  it says "setup cannot contiinue because required file if corrupted or not available, run setup again from origional source or download location"
[09:11] <quizme> indus: pretty good huh
[09:11] <indus> manas: yeah re download
[09:11] <indus> quizme: how lame
[09:11] <indus> :)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> manas: yes, i gave you a link with the steps you need to take from the appdb which I also gave you a link to
[09:11] <quizme> indus: call it genius if you like
[09:12] <indus> psst back to topic
[09:12] <manas> i even tried with a another setup file of MS OFFICE
[09:12] <indus> manas: it means your download is corrupted , please redownload, also, delete the older file
[09:12] <craig___> Hi zcat[1], it's not installed on ubuntu. The problem is when I rdp into other machines. If i paste something from ubuntu into the rdp session and into skype, skype crashes.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> manas: are you even listening to me
[09:12] <zcat[1]> craig___:  'so don't do that then!'
[09:13] <indus> manas: use my nick in your message or i will miss it
[09:13] <indus> manas:
[09:13] <indus> manas:
[09:13] <indus> manas:
[09:13] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <manas> yes i will
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> manas: you dont just run the setup file, you can do it a billion times it will do the exact same thing. I gave you a link to the steps you need to take with a link, i even gave you a link to the appdb itself
[09:13] <quizme> if i install from CD will my /home directory get wiped out ?
[09:14] <indus> ActionParsnip: what link
[09:14] <zcat[1]> quizme:  only if you choose to wipe it.
[09:14] <quizme> i'm thinking it might be faster to just upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10
[09:14] <indus> quizme: no it wont
[09:14] <craig___> zcat[1], The problem is that I need to.
[09:14] <quizme> k
[09:14] <quizme> thanks
[09:14] <indus> quizme: unless the cd is laced with floor cleaner
[09:14] <manas> ActionParsnip:im doing just that
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> indus: manas: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> manas: nice appreciation / acknowledgement then
[09:15] <zcat[1]> quizme:  by default, the instalelr will only resize things, if you do the advanced partition thing and intentionally choose to delete or reformat /home then it will be wiped out.. but otherwise, no...
[09:15] <indus> ActionParsnip: wow seesm to run fine with wine
[09:16] <danne__> I want to save my alsamixer settings. sudo alsactl store gives output "Home directory /home/danne not ours." What is the F***ing problem?
[09:16] <indus> quizme: choose manual partition, select / and format option, /home and keep date option
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> indus: does, just takes a little effort
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> indus: its also a 4Gb install
[09:17] <indus> ActionParsnip: 4 gb for ms office , lol why
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> indus: ask MS
[09:18] <zcat[1]> danne__:  try sudo -H
[09:19] <zcat[1]> danne__:  try sudo -H alsactl store
[09:19]  * indus emails william@microsoft.com 
[09:19] <indus> but i think open office does take 500 mb
[09:19] <danne__> zcat[1]: The man is empty
[09:19] <diablotin> does anyone use lenovo y450? I can't adjust brightness
[09:20] <danne__> zcat[1]: The werid thing is that it says the directory is not "OURS"
[09:20] <zcat[1]> danne__:  the problem is that sudo runs things as root but by default keeps the current user's environment (home, etc) .. so alsactl sees that it's running as root but the home directory (/home/danne) is owned by user danne
[09:21] <danne__> zcat[1]: okey, but if I write "alsactl store" I get permission denied
[09:21] <zcat[1]> .. so adding the option -H to sudo will make it run as root AND change the home directory to /root
[09:22] <danne__> zcat[1]: alsactl: save_state:1530: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission on denied
[09:22] <zcat[1]> hopefully that will work
[09:22] <ftab> ActionParsnip,
[09:22] <ftab> I went to the recovery mode
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> indus: yep and abiword + gnumeric is around 30Mb
[09:22] <m3onh0x84__b> everybody, why can not use gedit edit grub.cfg ?
[09:22] <ftab> there in blue screen it asked me for many options
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> m3onh0x84__b: you don't
[09:23] <indus> ActionParsnip: i use abiword,its nice, messes formatting a little , i hear gnumeric is even better as an application
[09:23] <zcat[1]> danne__:  try 'sudo -H alsactl store' -- it seems to work here
[09:23] <ftab> ActionParsnip, so  I am not sure how to login with out a password?
[09:23] <ftab> :(
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> m3onh0x84__b: that file is generated using grub2 scripts, so next time you get a new kernel the changes will be lost
[09:23] <danne__> zcat[1]: nope...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> ftab: you dont need a password for root recovery mode, it just drops you to it, you can then use commands without sudo as you are root
[09:24] <zcat[1]> danne__:  weird...
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | m3onh0x84__b
[09:24] <llutz> zcat[1]: alsactl stores to /var/... not users-home
[09:24] <indus> ftab: yeah you are already root
[09:24] <m3onh0x84__b> ActionParsnip: what's grub2 script ? it's lua shell or grub shell ?
[09:24] <ftab> but I goto recovery mode it takes me to a blue screen with many options ActionParsnip
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> m3onh0x84__b: read the factoid all will become clear
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> ftab: yes choose root
[09:24] <indus> ftab: just select last one , switch to recovery mode
[09:24] <m3onh0x84__b> ubotu: I read all wiki
[09:25] <indus> ftab: with networking
[09:25] <zcat[1]> llutz:  yeah, I see .. apparently not in danne__ 's case though..
[09:25] <ftab> Drop me into Root shell with networking
[09:25] <m3onh0x84__b> thanks
[09:25] <indus> ftab: ecxactly
[09:25] <juhm> My Karmic Koala has begun to be unable to resolve DNS names except for the DNS tools (host,dig). Can anyone else with an updated KK system tell whether they experience this?
[09:25] <indus> ftab: look out below
[09:25] <llutz> danne__: "ls -ld  /var/lib/alsa/"
[09:25] <ftab> indus, when I select that It asks me a maintenance password
[09:26] <danne__> zcat[1]: I got an idea... I conf directly in terminal /var/lib/alsa/asound.state =D
[09:26] <ftab> or press Control D
[09:26] <indus> ftab:yeah press ctl d
[09:26] <indus> ftab: thatz it
[09:26] <ftab> indus, when I press that it just exits to that menu
[09:26] <zcat[1]> ftab:  I already gave you the answer.. scroll back.
[09:26] <ftab> :(
[09:26] <ftab> zcat[1], I tried that
[09:26] <zcat[1]> and?
[09:26] <Asad> how do you guys recommend I upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10 using alternate cd.. Can I write it on USB?
[09:26] <indus> hmm what menu? the blue menu ? again?
[09:26] <ftab> zcat[1], got that idea from the web but that didn't worked
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> wow firefox just caused a system freeze, what a "great" browser...NOT!
[09:27] <zcat[1]> hmmmm.. come to think of it.. grub2 .. it probably won' work any more :( .. have to check
[09:27] <ftab> Do you guys have any other idea ?
[09:27] <infidel2> are php5 and php5-common the same package?
[09:27] <jjmartin> i need dating advice
[09:27] <Tommi> haha
[09:27] <indus> jjmartin: wrong channel
[09:27] <Tommi> wrong channel, jjmartin
[09:27] <juhm> ActionParsnip: any program that uses much RAM can.
[09:27] <Tommi> :)
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> !ot | jjmartin
[09:28] <jjmartin> :<
[09:28] <infidel2> jjmartin geekharmony.com
[09:28] <danne__> I think I saved the sound settings... Rebooting!
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> juhm: thing is, it sucks yets its default in ubuntu
[09:28] <Tommi> okcupid is also pretty good
[09:28] <Tommi> but yeah, ot
[09:28] <jjmartin> she has two dogs, two cats, one bird in a small house. is this good?
[09:28] <Asad> Recommend a way to write alternate ISO of 9.10 on a USB flashdisk (bootable) ?
[09:28] <parasol> jjmartin: google
[09:28] <jjmartin> lolwut
[09:28] <indus> ftab: so maintenance mode?
[09:28] <Azeotrope> I have my IP and I want to conevert it to a free domain name? any suggestions?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Asad: there is no recommended way
[09:28] <ftab> I am stuck with the recovery of the password, and my normal user won't work as sudoer :(
[09:28] <zcat[1]> Azeotrope:  dyndns
[09:29] <Asad> well ActionParsnip ... then tell me a non-recommended way :P
[09:29] <indus> ActionParsnip: so ftab selected drop me into root sheell wth networking, then
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Asad: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/   is ONE way you can do it
[09:29] <Aciid> Azeotrope: possibilities to get a domain.tld are not that great. but the internet is full of free sub-domain services
[09:29] <indus> asks for password for maintenance mode or press ctl d
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> indus: doesnt really need networking but doesnt hurt
[09:29] <parasol> jjmartin: is that good? no!
[09:29] <indus> what next
[09:29] <Tommi> Asad: did you google it?
[09:29] <ftab> indus, when I chose that it asked me for password which I don't know :(
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> indus: has a root pass been set?
[09:30] <Asad> arggh... no windows here ActionParsnip .. that's the issue. couldn't find a linux software
[09:30] <kartook> good support channel
[09:30] <parasol> jjmartin: people with that many pets -> emo : ), like i said, google.com : P
[09:30] <kartook> really i got a lot of help from here
[09:30] <kartook> thanks to youall
[09:30] <Tommi> Asad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:30] <indus> ftab: PRESS ctl d what happens
[09:30] <kartook> "_
[09:30] <kartook> :)
[09:30] <Tommi> That is what I did ...tuesday
[09:30] <juhm> ActionParsnip: In my estimation Gecko is the best engine.  KHTML has a logical failure bug open for a decade or more for example. (improper color handling).
[09:30] <ftab> indus, takes me back to the options menu
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Asad: got a system with a CD drive?
[09:30] <indus> ftab: what passwords do you know
[09:30] <jjmartin> aw well she is pretty but has no boobies and looooves animals >.>
[09:30] <Tommi> Writing to usb is pretty slow, unfortunately
[09:30] <zcat[1]> brb testing something
[09:30] <ftab> my normal user that won't work either :)
[09:30] <jjmartin> sry
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> juhm: i'm liking webkit, chromium is nice
[09:31] <Asad> no CD drive ActionParsnip ... thanks Tommi ..will try that :)
[09:31] <gribouille> grub2 doesn't play nicely with wondows
[09:31] <Tommi> yeah
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Asad: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-from-cd/
[09:31] <Tommi> should be pretty easy
[09:31] <Madpilot> jjmartin, not sure what the heck you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like tech support...
[09:31] <indus> !ops | jjmartin talking on b**bies
[09:31] <jjmartin> lol
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: on the contrary ive seen lotsa people dual boot successfully
[09:31] <indus> yeah it gets funnier
[09:31] <jjmartin> sry k bye
[09:32] <Madpilot> jjmartin, #ubuntu-offtopic for normal offtopic stuff, thanks.
[09:32] <ftab> No other solution :(
[09:32] <ftab> I must be doing some thing wrong
[09:32] <Tommi> dual boot is fine, no?
[09:32] <indus> ftab: should be
[09:32] <Tommi> What is the issue?
[09:32] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, I don't have any problem with grub1, but grub2 doesn't work well
[09:32] <Asad> oh ok cool ActionParsnip ... i always thought that was for creating recovery disks...
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> ftab: whn you boot to recovery root it should just drop you to a prompt and not ask for any passwords (unless you set a root password which isnt supported here)
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: you can use grub1 if you like, however grub2 can boot windows
[09:33] <ftab> ActionParsnip, when I press escape it gives me about 6 options
[09:33] <indus> ftab: select without networking
[09:33] <ftab> ActionParsnip, like Boot generic , then boot recovery mode
[09:33] <ftab> and both are repeated three times ActionParsnip
[09:33] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, can't grub1 boot windows ?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> ftab: choose the latest kernel recovery mode, then select root (without networking), you should then just get a prompt
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: sure
[09:34] <ftab> ActionParsnip, I am going to try again \
[09:34] <zcat[1]> I hate grub2
[09:34] <rabbitear> arch hats you
[09:34] <rabbitear> nobody cares
[09:34] <rabbitear> you do not do bugs
[09:34] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, but when I boot windows with grub2, the next time I try to boot, grub2 doesn't work anymore
[09:34] <rabbitear> and thats real.
[09:34] <rabbitear> brb.
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: is there a bug open for it?
[09:35] <damo22> my xorg in ubuntu karmic freezes up and chews cpu
[09:35] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, no idea
[09:35] <damo22> is there a problem with radeon driver?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> damo22: have you installed video drivers/
[09:35] <indus> damo22: xorg is a file and wont freeze
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: dont you think you should check? There may be a fix
[09:35] <indus> damo22: X freeze
[09:35] <rabbitear> you dudes can't
[09:35] <indus> damo22: xorg.conf actually
[09:35] <damo22> how do i install stable radeon driver
[09:35] <indus> rabbitear: hello
[09:36] <rabbitear> and your not good at it
[09:36] <rabbitear> hi indus
[09:36] <DJones> !ot | rabbitear
[09:36] <ledr> morning all.. does anyone have nfs mount (mountall) problems with karmic server ?
[09:36] <indus> rabbitear: what is the problem? not enough grass?
[09:36] <zcat[1]> wtf is rabbit rabbiting on about?
[09:36] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, I've wasted a lot of time because of this problem, sorry
[09:36] <rabbitear> are you mad about that?
[09:36] <rabbitear> you can't return what you know
[09:36] <rabbitear> just good at it?
[09:36] <Tommi> the trolls come out at night, eh
[09:36] <ledr> I put a reply here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/461133?comments=all but I don't know if it's the right place ?
[09:36] <rabbitear> no.. Tommi
[09:36] <Madpilot> rabbitear, stop the random chat, please
[09:36] <zcat[1]> rabbit must be late for a tea party somewhere?
[09:37] <rabbitear> listen to somebody
[09:37] <mostafa__> how can I apply the patch file? First I make it via this command "diff -nr 1.txt 2.txt > name.patch"
[09:37] <Azeotrope> how do you generate a password in terminal?
[09:37] <indus> damo22: from system>admin>hardware drivers
[09:37] <Madpilot> rabbitear, are you a bot?
[09:37] <rabbitear> like you normally would right
[09:37] <rabbitear> no.
[09:37] <zcat[1]> !ops rabbit please?
[09:37] <rabbitear> .
[09:37] <rabbitear> can't?
[09:37] <indus> john brown
[09:37] <rabbitear> no
[09:37] <Madpilot> rabbitear, last warning. Stop the offtopic chatter here.
[09:37] <rabbitear> fake name
[09:37] <sybariten> any advantage of running hardy heron instead of the I, or J-release, or the K?
[09:37] <rabbitear> you know what I'm saying
[09:38] <rabbitear> right?
[09:38] <mostafa__> how can I apply the patch file? First I make it via this command "diff -nr 1.txt 2.txt > name.patch"
[09:38] <parasol> ugh
[09:38] <rabbitear> yet, you don't wanna know?
[09:38] <llutz> Azeotrope:  perl -w -e 'print join ("", map {my ($c) = chr(int(rand(0x39)));$c =~ tr{\x00-\x38}{a-kmnp-zA-HJ-NP-Z2-9-};$c; } @ARGV[0 .. 12]) . "\n";'
[09:38] <mostafa__> ActionParsnip: how can I apply the patch file? First I make it via this command "diff -nr 1.txt 2.txt > name.patch"
[09:38] <rabbitear> anyways...
[09:38] <sybariten> i upgraded to hardy just to be able to run an IRC client but it didnt quite work out anyhow so now i dont know if i should dist-upgrade again or not
[09:38] <parasol> kick troll
[09:38] <indus> rabbitear: bye bye
[09:38] <zcat[1]> thanks Madpilot
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !patch | mostafa__
[09:38] <Madpilot> np
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mostafa__: i've never had to do it
[09:38] <indus> Madpilot: can i borrow 2 kicks?
[09:39] <damo22> it says no proprietary drivers are in use on my system
[09:39] <Azeotrope> llutz: it was a command... pasgen paswgen
[09:39] <l1nUx1z3r> !/bin
[09:39] <Madpilot> indus, not likely. Do you have a concern?
[09:39] <indus> damo22: hmm you have an ATI card?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> !ati | damo22
[09:39] <zippy> I would like to do an automatic kdm restart at the end of the boot-process of karmic koala: in which file can I start it?
[09:39] <ledr> anyone using nfs client on karmic server ?
[09:39] <damo22> indus: yesh
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> zippy: /etc/rc.local will do it
[09:40] <parasol> i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, when I tried KDE, i cannot see the windows right, like the menu bar will not show (the one with the expand, minimize, etc)
[09:40] <kandala> Hello all, I have installed 9.10 on my laptop and when I install postgresql, it doesn't create the postgres user even though the database server is installed and started.
[09:40] <parasol> anyone have that problem? gnome works fine, but KDE acts funny
[09:40] <zcat[1]> zippy:  ls -s /etc/init.d/kdm /etc/init2.d/S99kdm
[09:40] <llutz> Azeotrope: pwgen
[09:40] <LimCore> hi, how to disable my ubuntu box being ownable by connecting firewire? as in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8388351#post8388351
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> kandala: log a bug
[09:40] <zcat[1]> .. or perhaps not
[09:41] <Azeotrope> llutz: thanks
[09:41] <zippy> will the low graphics message disappear?
[09:41] <kandala> ActionParsnip: ok.
[09:41] <damo22> the ati card doesnt show up in hardware drivers
[09:41] <damo22> ??
[09:41] <zcat[1]> zippy:  does it dissappear if you ctl-alt-F1 and log in and restart kdm manually?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> damo22: check http://www.ati.com   see if its supported by them
[09:42] <damo22> ok
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> damo22: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you what it is
[09:42] <indus> damo22: which model
[09:42] <indus> damo22: lspci
[09:43] <zippy> zcat[1] yes with restart i get the graphical login
[09:43] <damo22> its a radeon r350
[09:43] <damo22> 9800pro
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> damo22: you'll probably be using the open driver then
[09:45] <indus> damo22: yeah that uses the open driver
[09:45] <zcat[1]> zippy:  I think someone else commented on this recently .. log in as root, cd /etc/rc2.d and move Sxxkdm to S99kdm
[09:45] <Kovensky> after an update, my system (karmic) became unbootable; the kernel detects sda (internal hdd) properly but udev does NOT create the device nodes for sda; if I mknod the sda nodes manually on the busybox I get the correct nodes, but even after I do that if I exit init refuses to boot complaining about not finding the boot device
[09:45] <pinoyskull> any regex experts here
[09:45] <indus> damo22: no proprietary will work for that
[09:45] <damo22> well i dont care which driver im using but its not stable atm
[09:45] <e1c2_> hi
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> damo22: here is an xorg.conf of someone on karmic with a 9800 http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290449
[09:45] <ledr> pinoyskull: not esp expert, but what do you want to know ?
[09:46] <murray__> Is it possible to signal a daemon process running as root if I do not have root privileges myself?
[09:46] <sledgeas> hello
[09:46] <damo22> ActionParsnip: cool thx
[09:46] <Guest38123> Fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[09:46] <prelude203> hi everyone
[09:47] <Pirate_Hunter> how can I get php5 working with extension mysqli?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> damo22: if you run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   paste the text in, save the file and reboot, you will be ok
[09:47] <prelude203> does anyone know if there is a fix for the dsl connection in network manager for ubuntu 9.10 yet?
[09:47] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: isntall php5-mysql
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !dsl | prelude203
[09:47] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, that is it?
[09:48] <luciferian> hola
[09:48] <luciferian> alguien despierto???
[09:48] <sledgeas> there is an "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870" video card on Ubuntu 9.10 it sometimes hangs the whole system (lol, can be reproduced most of the time when moving a mouse and licking a lot) (compiz off, using xorg-driver-fglrx 2:8.660-0ubuntu4) - what aids are possible ?
[09:49] <zcat[1]> Pirate_Hunter:  if you just installed php5 and mysql-server then apache2 doesn't get restarted by the install script.. you have to restart it to load the new config
[09:49] <smknight_> sledgeas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQ1XNqCsSI ati linux fix
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> sledgeas: when it hangs, can you restart the x server?
[09:49] <zcat[1]> other than that it should all be automatic
[09:49] <smknight_> it works. always.
[09:49] <DJones> !es | luciferian
[09:49] <sledgeas> ActionParsnip: no, keyboard and mouse disact
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> smknight_: +1 dude
[09:50] <vivid> has anyone used trickle with firefox?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> sledgeas: can you ssh in?
[09:50] <nutzer_> heyy
[09:51] <zcat[1]> vivid:  nope, you're the first ;)
[09:51] <sledgeas> ActionParsnip: this i do not know (the problem is that it is a remote box of my Joe Linux User-friends :} i will try to ask them to try to ssh into it :)
[09:51] <prelude203> thanks ubottu, i know how to connect threw the terminal.. its just that network manager has a bug where if you try to make a dsl connection in the applet it doesn't work nor lets you see the connection in the list and i was wondering if anyone knows how to fix that
[09:51] <smknight_> get rid of the ati card
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> smknight_: maybe its a bug with the driver. do you have the latest driver?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> smknight_: could try the alpha xorg
[09:52] <rabbitear> greetings all ubuntu users
[09:52] <sledgeas> ActionParsnip: the whole xorg to upgrade?
[09:52] <rabbitear> I am a ubuntu user as well
[09:52] <smknight_> Use Hammer with ATI card
[09:52] <rabbitear> I don't bring trolls
[09:52] <llutz> !ot | rabbitear
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> sledgeas: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[09:53] <zippy> zcat[1]  the rc.local didnt work now i try the kdm99
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> sledgeas: may help
[09:53] <Madpilot> rabbitear, you can come in, but no more warnings. Next piece of stupidity gets you banned for at least 48hrs. Clear?
[09:53] <rabbitear> my questions is why don't you give back to the linux kernel?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> sledgeas: maybe theres a known bug with your card and kernel version
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> rabbitear: thats also offtopic
[09:54] <zcat[1]> rabbitear:  uh? ubuntu sends stuff upstream all the time don't they?
[09:54] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> does anyone know  where to download viruses?
[09:54] <rabbitear> do you know here what I say?
[09:54] <Madpilot> rabbitear, that is not a tech support question. this is a tech support channel
[09:54] <rabbitear> my questions is why don't you give back to the linux kernel?
[09:54] <vivid> zcat[1], that sucks, cuz i cant get it to work
[09:54] <llutz> !ot > rabbitear
[09:54] <maslen> I just ran the update, and it killed my boot
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> rabbitear: thats offtopic here, this is suport for Ubuntu. Only support and only ubuntu
[09:54] <maslen> it did some kernel level stuff, and now when it boots, it goes to the grub command line
[09:54] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> any viruses (for windows preferably)
[09:55] <zcat[1]> vivid:  what'd you try with /etc/rc.local anyhow?
[09:55] <DJones> !ot | Fuzzy_Wuzzy
[09:55] <sledgeas> smknight_: youtube fix and hammer sound a bit defeatist
[09:55] <toader> Hi, On my computer, I have installed dule system: Fedora and Ubuntu, but when I start up there is no grub menu where i can select to startup. How can i fix this problem? thanks
[09:55] <rabbitear> I shall repeart myself... young blood
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: as it gets run last after all the bootups so can launch the DM
[09:55] <rabbitear> my questions is why don't you give back to the linux kernel?
[09:55] <llutz> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: /j #script-kiddies
[09:55] <sledgeas> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll give it a shot (i have my friend online, should i tell her to try to ssh into it?)
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> rabbitear: its offtopic
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> rabbitear: people in #ubuntu-offtopic will gladly fill you in
[09:56] <Madpilot> ActionParsnip, already removed.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:56] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip:  there's a bug got mentioned on the wlug mailing list recently.. with some video drivers *dm gets started too early .. moving the link to S99*dm fixes the issue....
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: cooliio
[09:57] <zcat[1]> I think we filed a bug report...
[09:57] <maslen> Can someone help me? I just installed the newest "automatic/recomended" updates, as well as the newest Nvidia driver. I'm using wubi. Now when linux boots, it boots me to the grub command line
[09:57] <Ioneye> does the Kerberos protocol exists in ubuntu 9.10?
[09:59] <zcat[1]> Ioneye:  yes
[09:59] <smknight_> Ioneye: !aptitude search kerberos
[09:59] <smknight_> :x
[10:03] <Ioneye> !aptitude search kerberos
[10:03] <zcat[1]> Ioneye:  in a terminal ... ;)
[10:03] <maslen> Can someone help me? I just installed the newest "automatic/recomended" updates, as well as the newest Nvidia driver. I'm using wubi. Now when linux boots, it boots me to the grub command line
[10:04] <smknight_> Ioneye: what do you want to do
[10:04] <prelude203> does anyone know how to fix the dsl connection problem in the network manager applet?
[10:04] <zcat[1]> maslen:  I know this might be too late, but my advice is to never update a wubi install, the chance of breakage is very high ;)
[10:04] <infidel2> does anyone know if 'apache2' and 'apache-2.2-common' are the same package?
[10:04] <Ioneye> intranet and extranet transactions smknight_
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> maslen: sounds like grub needs fixing but as yo are using crappy wubi its a little harder as you can't simply boot to the cd and run the grub install
[10:05] <infidel2> because i apt-get installed 'apache2' but apt-cache is just showing that i installed apache2.2-common
[10:05] <noren> hi there ActionParsnip
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> maslen: as your OS is held within a windows partition instead of its own
[10:05] <maslen> right, I understand the mechanics a bit
[10:05] <maslen> I was simply too lazy to repartition
[10:05] <infidel2> please someone answer this, i've been asking for an hour now and cant find it on google
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> maslen: i am unsure how to fix it as I avoid wubi like the plague
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> hi noren
[10:05] <smknight_> Ioneye: more concrete? :p
[10:05] <zcat[1]> wubi IS te plague...
[10:05] <maslen> is it possible to access the wubi partitions files inside of windows?
[10:05] <Ioneye> smknight_: xD
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> maslen: not repartitioning means your data is safe though but wubi does have this drawback
[10:06] <smknight_> you want to authenticate with kerberos
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> maslen: again i am unsure, i imagine you could
[10:06] <smknight_> which services
[10:06] <zcat[1]> !metapackage | infidel2
[10:06] <noren> hi can anyone tell me how to get the best suiting kernel for my laptop, i m kinda confused
[10:06] <maslen> ActionParsnip: I have nothing on this computer that NEEDS to be saved
[10:06] <maslen> (I have two computers, that's my school computer)
[10:06] <plitter> how do i stop irc scripts??
[10:06] <smknight_> Ioneye: !google ubuntu kerberos $servicename is a good start :)
[10:07] <plitter> and how did i get them?
[10:07] <Ioneye> smknight_: i got it thank you :) found a way :)
[10:07] <smknight_> k
[10:07] <llutz> plitter: read  your irc-clients docu
[10:07] <tony__> hi
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> maslen: may help:
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310820&page=2
[10:08] <morgie> Hey
[10:08] <tony__> never used irc before.
[10:08] <b3rz3rk3r> welcome tony__  :)
[10:08] <tony__> thanks
[10:09] <noren> ActionParsnip, can u help me with this >> Linux localhost 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux .>> or i sud get the i386 version
[10:09] <maslen> ActionParsnip: Nice, thanks, I'll try that
[10:09] <morgie> Im using IRC in my terminal
[10:09] <b3rz3rk3r> morgie, irssi?
[10:09] <morgie> yeah
[10:09] <morgie> just set it up there now
[10:09] <b3rz3rk3r> how dya like it?
[10:09] <tony__> i couldnt connect with irssi.
[10:10] <tonii> noren: you don't really have to change kernel unless you have some very odd hardware that you need support for
[10:10] <morgie> irssi yeah its nice
[10:10] <morgie> i like the look off it
[10:10] <tonii> <3 irssi'
[10:10] <tonii> !!
[10:10] <morgie> so where is everyone from?
[10:10] <Nova> china
[10:10] <tony__> Ga
[10:10] <noren> tonii, i wanted to know if this is the latest kernel or its the legacy kernel i686, i hope i m not slowing down my laptop
[10:10] <b3rz3rk3r> uk
[10:11] <plitter> is there a reason for diamondcard.us to have a questionable security certificate? or is it just firefox being to cautious?
[10:11] <Ioneye> Aus
[10:11] <morgie> i'm from Ireland
[10:11] <Mrokii> hello. Is there a way to keep copied text-snippets even if the application I copied/cut them from has been quit meanwhile?
[10:11] <indus> plitter: aah just over cautious
[10:11] <Nova> i'm from china ....
[10:11] <indus> plitter: i find mozilla too havin that on their own site
[10:11] <Mrokii> I mean, keep the snippets in the copy-paste-memory or however that is called.
[10:11] <indus> Nova: hello welcome to ubuntu
[10:12] <noren> morgie, use /server irc.freenode.net to connect and then /j #ubuntu to join the channel
[10:12] <plitter> indus: k, thanks:)
[10:12] <Nova> thank you ...
[10:12] <morgie> okay
[10:12] <b3rz3rk3r> Mrokii, you could paste them into a text file temporarily, thats normally what i do if i need something for a while
[10:12] <indus> plitter: what site is it
[10:12] <Snyfer> Hey guys
[10:12] <plitter> indus: diamondcard.us
[10:12] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  That would be one solution. But I would like to have that done automatically.
[10:12] <plitter> indus: just installed ekiga and wanted to try
[10:13] <Nova> what are you doing daily ...?everyone  ?
[10:13] <indus> plitter: hmm online web commerce, be careful
[10:13] <morgie> Hey
[10:13] <noren> tonii, i wanted to know if this is the latest kernel or its the legacy kernel i686, i hope i m not slowing down my laptop, anyone please
[10:13] <indus> plitter: frankly i dont know that site, is it good?
[10:13] <tonii> noren: i686 is hardly legacy compared to i386 ;)
[10:13] <plitter> indus: thats what i thought.... but ekiga has it as its standard, so I think that they should know, right?
[10:14] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  copying it into another textfile is clumsy, imho.
[10:14] <Morgie> so what time is it for everyone
[10:14] <tonii> noren: if you have an up to date release you have the latest kernel available
[10:14] <indus> plitter: dont trust ekiga either
[10:14] <b3rz3rk3r> Mrokii, some sort of clipboard manager perhaps, i dont know of any personally, but im sure a quick google would do the trick?
[10:14] <plitter> indus: really
[10:14] <maslen> ActionParsnip: I'm getting an error "Invalid Magic number" ?
[10:14] <indus> plitter: so you buy credits on this site?
[10:14] <plitter> indus:  why?
[10:14] <plitter> indus: yes
[10:14] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  Maybe, I will look for that. Thanks.
[10:14] <maslen> ActionParsnip: On trying to follow those steps
[10:14] <Morgie> Has anyone seen google wave?
[10:14] <noren> tonii, ActionParsnip :: i tried to get the minimal command line bootup, i think i did some mistake, is there anything later than i686
[10:15] <Snyfer> I made a terrible mistake, I wanted to have a new xorg-version on a ubuntu 9.04 so I added the karmic repository source to source.list, I've updated evrything I could, and now, as expected, the system doesn't boot anymore... So now I'm on my gentoo, chrooted in the buggy ubuntu, and I have removed the source line in source.list, but I'd like to do is something like reinstalling all packages to the newest available version *in* source
[10:15] <b3rz3rk3r> Mrokii, np, let me know if you come up with anything, so i can reccomend to others in future yeah?
[10:15] <indus> plitter: just make sure, when you but, the url says https
[10:15] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  okay :)
[10:15] <indus> buy*
[10:15] <tonii> noren: no
[10:16] <plitter> indus: didnt quite get that:P make sure the adress is https when dealing with money?
[10:16] <Morgie> morgie
[10:16] <Morgie> someone type my name
[10:16] <indus> plitter: yeah online transactions page will have an https secure connection
[10:16] <indus> plitter: always verified and signed
[10:16] <Snyfer> The thing I'd like apt to do for me would to update all packages to the latest version in the repository, even if the version is older than the one installed on my system, is it possible ?
[10:16] <indus> plitter: so do check
[10:16] <Morgie> Morgie
[10:17] <noren> Morgie, ???
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: you'd have to remove the current one first
[10:17] <plitter> indus: it did, its when i try to login to the site that i get the message that says that they cant promise that the site is safe
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: or you may be able to use: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[10:17] <plitter> indus: rather they cant promise that the connection is safe
[10:17] <Morgie> im trying to get the beep to work
[10:17] <indus> plitter: hmm check with the site then
[10:18] <Snyfer> ActionParsnip: wow okay... and is it possible to --reinstall all installed packages on my system ?
[10:18] <Morgie> when someone types my name
[10:18] <indus> plitter: if its only for the login page, then its ok i guess
[10:18] <plitter> indus: k, thanks:)
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: you could use the ubuntu-desktop metapackage to reinstall a whole lot in one go
[10:18] <BUBUNTU> Im facing a problem with Kopete. I have a creative cam and when i send the cam my chat friend does not receive the request. If my friend send me the request i can accept it but i dont see anything. I running ubuntu 9.10 on dell E6400. Anyway my can does'nt work fine even with other programs. It works fine with CAMORAMA
[10:18] <indus> plitter: it says thesame for my bank too :) , but later its secure
[10:19] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  Okay, it seems that "glipper" does the trick. It kept text-snippets from Evolution and gEdit, even when the apps were closed.
[10:19] <plitter> indus: hehehe, k, so firefox is overprotective:P
[10:19] <Snyfer> ActionParsnip: yeah but right now I only have a command line on my ubuntu :)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: if its not in that then you may have to dig deeper, you could use the clone factoid and tell the system to install reinstall EVERYTHING but its gonna take tiiiiiiiime
[10:19] <indus> plitter: if it says encrypted, then its safe
[10:19] <indus> plitter: you said it doesnt?
[10:19] <indus> plitter: then dont buy
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: then the ubuntu-desktop package will be fine
[10:19] <b3rz3rk3r> Mrokii, alright! nice one man, thx. Il remember that for future
[10:19] <indus> plitter: actually can you rephrase
[10:20] <Mrokii> b3rz3rk3r:  np
[10:20] <indus> plitter: on the login page, when you click on icon, does it say verified by bla bla
[10:20] <Guest38123> Fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[10:21] <indus> plitter: all transaction and login pages should be verified
[10:21] <plitter> indus: the page that i bought credit on was https, when i pressed login on their page it said that the security certificate was out of date or something
[10:21] <indus> plitter: hmm out of date
[10:21] <indus> plitter: cant guarantee
[10:22] <indus> plitter: firefox asked to add exception ?
[10:22] <plitter> indus: yes
[10:22] <indus> plitter: out of date certificates are not good :)
[10:22] <Snyfer> ActionParsnip: thank you for your help
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Snyfer: np man
[10:23] <indus> plitter: stay away from it
[10:23] <Makaila> plitter: stay away from it
[10:23] <b3rz3rk3r> M0rg13, got your beep working?
[10:23] <Makaila> M0rg13, got your beep working?
[10:23] <M0rg13> I'm Going to bed
[10:23] <Makaila> I'm Going to bed
[10:23] <FloodBot3> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <Makaila> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <M0rg13> nope
[10:23] <plitter> indus: then i am living dangerous now:p
[10:23] <indus> plitter: it means the security agency cant claim it to be safe
[10:23] <indus> plitter: aks the website owners
[10:24] <M0rg13> but this IRC channel it great so i will be coming back :P
[10:24] <Makaila> but this IRC channel it great so i will be coming back :P
[10:24] <indus> plitter: maybe try another site?
[10:24] <Makaila> plitter: maybe try another site?
[10:24] <FloodBot3> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <Makaila> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <M0rg13> spam?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Makaila: turn that off please or i will call the ops
[10:24] <Makaila> Makaila: turn that off please or i will call the ops
[10:24] <indus> plitter: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-IN/windows-vista/How-to-know-if-an-online-transaction-is-secure
[10:24] <Makaila> plitter: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-IN/windows-vista/How-to-know-if-an-online-transaction-is-secure
[10:24] <FloodBot3> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <ashraf> where can i download software for ubuntu
[10:24] <Makaila> where can i download software for ubuntu
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !ops Makaila repeat bot
[10:24] <Makaila> !ops Makaila repeat bot
[10:24] <Makaila> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:24] <Makaila> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:24] <FloodBot3> Makaila: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <M0rg13> wow.....
[10:24] <M0rg13> a spammer in IRC
[10:24] <zugiart> HI all - my Ubuntu stopped detecting my Nokia e71 and Ipod Shuffle - anyone have similar issue ? for example with Ipod Shuffle, I can connect it and it will appear in dmesg | tail, but it wont appear under /media, an rhythmbox doesn't see it. Any clue!?!?
[10:24] <wertik_rus> oh
[10:25] <M0rg13> Hey zihoart
[10:25] <plitter> indus: thanks will look into it
[10:25] <ashraf> ooo
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> zugiart: when you connect eiter, run: dmesg | tail
[10:25] <M0rg13> Zihoart, what Ver of ubuntu do you have?
[10:25] <tsoporan1> I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop, problem is there is no sound, alsamixer finds "no mixerl elems", what should be my next step from here?
[10:25] <Makaila> ?ereh morf pets txen ym eb dluohs tahw ,"smele lrexim on" sdnif reximasla ,dnuos on si ereht si melborp ,potpal ym no utnubu dellatsni tsuj ev'I
[10:25] <dhiaeldeen1> installed " ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run " , how can i execute it ???? thanks
[10:25] <Symmetria> hey all
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> zugiart: you may need to run: sudo rmmod usb_storage; sleep 5; sudo modprobe usb_storage    to get it going too
[10:25] <Symmetria> apparmor_parser: Unable to replace "/usr/sbin/named".  Profile doesn't conform to protocol
[10:25] <Symmetria>  * Starting domain name service... bind9
[10:25] <Symmetria>    ...fail!
[10:26] <Symmetria> what the hell is that :)
[10:26] <FloodBot3> Symmetria: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <zugiart> ActionParsnip: I did that, I can see USB attached as device [sdd] but Ubuntu doesn't detect it as 'media'
[10:26] <indus> plitter: looks like a pretty unprofessional site to me
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> dhiaeldeen1: chmod +x ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run; ./ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run
[10:26] <zugiart> ActionParsnip: I will have a look at those, thx 4 pointers.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> zugiart: sdd is a disk, you need to access /dev/sdd1 as the first partition
[10:26] <dhiaeldeen1> ActionParsnip: where to put the file , desktop ?
[10:26] <plitter> indus: i agree, but on the other hand, not many voip services look professional
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> zugiart: sudo fdisk -l    will show you all accessible partitions
[10:27] <indus> plitter: skype?
[10:27] <Jimi_Neutral> Has anyone used xen?
[10:27] <dhiaeldeen1> ActionParsnip: and have i to enter that in the termainal
[10:27] <plitter> indus: expensive
[10:27] <noren> !kernel
[10:27] <M0rg13> Is there any channels that are for chilling and not for support?
[10:27] <indus> plitter: hmm really?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> dhiaeldeen1: anywhere you have write access
[10:27] <indus> plitter: never used it :D
[10:27] <Madpilot> M0rg13, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:27] <indus> plitter: so this site is to buy credits right? so u can call phones
[10:27] <M0rg13> Thank's
[10:27] <plitter> indus: in comparison to other voip services like for example voip cheap
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> dhiaeldeen1: you will need to run: cd ~/Desktop   before running that command so the terminals location is the desktop too
[10:27] <M0rg13> i will check it out
[10:27] <Jimi_Neutral> has anyone used xen abd can tell me what OS it runs on (not what OS it can run)
[10:27] <plitter> indus: yes
[10:27] <infidel2> how can i tell if my httpd is prefork or worker?
[10:27] <M0rg13> talk to you guys later
[10:27] <M0rg13> good luck.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> M0rg13: #ubuntu-offtopic is good for chillin
[10:28] <tsoporan1> Anyone?
[10:28] <indus> tsoporan1: ya
[10:28] <M0rg13> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28] <tsoporan1> I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop, problem is there is no sound, alsamixer finds "no mixerl elems", what should be my next step from here?
[10:28] <tsoporan1> Was my question.
[10:28] <plitter> indus: just got help this night in fixing the settings for my builtin mic so wanna try:D
[10:28] <indus> plitter: hmm
[10:28] <indus> k
[10:28] <tsoporan1> (It should be noted I'm coming from arch linux and I have used ubuntu in the past, the sound has worked just for ubuntu 9.10 it hasn't)
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> tsoporan1: run: sudo lshw -C sound     websearch for your sound chip (read product line)
[10:29] <tsoporan1> its the hda-intel
[10:29] <tsoporan1> That is the driver that worked for it before,        product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> tsoporan1: so is mine but i'm sure its a different chip to yours
[10:29] <zugiart> @ActionParsnip: ipod detection works, thank you. Will try e71 later on. I will read up on modprobe and usb_storage. You da man !
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> tsoporan1: ok, go websearch that and you will find guides
[10:29] <Talisa> sediug dnif lliw uoy dna taht hcraesbew og ,ko :1naropost
[10:29] <tsoporan1> Alright, well I'll giver it a search.
[10:29] <Talisa> .hcraes a ti revig ll'I llew ,thgirlA
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> zugiart: coolio
[10:29] <Talisa> oilooc :traiguz
[10:30] <dhiaeldeen1> ActionParsnip: you will need to install that as the super user he said in a message ...
[10:30] <Talisa> ... egassem a ni dias eh resu repus eht sa taht llatsni ot deen lliw uoy :pinsraPnoitcA
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> dhiaeldeen1: then run: sudo ./ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run
[10:30] <Talisa> nur.46_68x.68x-11-9-rellatsni-revird-ita/. odus :nur neht :1needleaihd
[10:31] <dhiaeldeen1> ActionParsnip: Auto or custom and why ?
[10:32] <noren> !kernel
[10:33] <dhiaeldeen1> ActionParsnip proceeded with custom and chosed all components
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> dhiaeldeen1: not sure dude. i know as much as yuo now. i dont use ati
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> freenode webchat isnt too shabby
[10:34] <tsoporan1> Ok got it working, if anyone else has that problem: http://www.pubbs.net/ubuntu/200911/24806/ cheers.
[10:37] <Jimi_Neutral> Is anyone using xen
[10:37] <Jimi_Neutral> and what release of ubuntu are you using it on
[10:38] <noren> is it true that most of the app in ubuntu are compiles for i386 architecture and not i686 ??
[10:38] <digitig> Just upgraded from Jakalope to Koala and sound no longer works. Tried everything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats -- what do I do next? (Newbie, please be gentle...)
[10:39] <zortec> morning all, would anyone be able to help me upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?  I know you should do a full install, but I have 9.04 currently installed but i deleted the boot entry in the boot.ini file in windows and can't seem to get th grub menu to pull up... any ideas?
[10:39] <noren> !sound | digen
[10:39] <iceroot> zortec: live-cd and repair menu.lst
[10:40] <zortec> I don't have a livecd on me... just create a 9.10 one and use that to fix the menu?
[10:41] <zortec> the other question I have is, do you really need to upgrade from jaunty to karmic? is the upgrade really worth it in the long run?  I know some people are waiting for 10.04 to come out
[10:42] <llutz> zortec: if your jaunty runs, it isn't
[10:42] <digitig> ubottu: thanks.
[10:43] <zortec> my jaunty runs fine, but wanted to use ext4 and grub2 which I read offered much improvements over their counterparts
[10:43] <zortec> just trying to get enough information to decide if I should do a full install of karmic or leave jaunty for now
[10:43] <llutz> zortec: you can use ext4  in jaunty too, grub2 improvements... not seen one yet
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> zortec: for single boots, not really
[10:44] <zortec> so people are successfully upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 and not having too many issues?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> zortec: if you have a spare usb storage around, you can install to that and test it before comitting to the internal drive
[10:44] <zortec> the last time I was in the irc room, it was suggested you do a fresh install and not an upgrade
[10:44] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[10:44]  * schwezzy` gives ikonia a boy scout
[10:44] <schwezzy`> hmm
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> zortec: try an upgrade, if their are too many issues, clean install
[10:45] <vox> 6c/win 91
[10:45] <ikonia> schwezzy`: please disable that
[10:45] <schwezzy`> it is disabled, heh
[10:45] <zortec> ok, will give that a shot... and the only way to fix the boot.ini file in windows so that I can boot into ubuntu is to use a live-cd and repair menu.lst?
[10:46] <schwezzy`> !give schwezzy` test
[10:46] <zortec> I deleted the boot entry in my boot.ini file so have no way to escape into the grub menu to boot up ubuntu if that helps
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> zortec: i dont think the win boot loader can boot CD. I believe menu.lst is c:\wubi/boot\grub\menu.lst
[10:47] <klpt> does anybody have a preferred IDE for java? preferably something that isn't eclipse and isn't a 40 ton truck?
[10:47] <zortec> hmm, what can I do to resolve the issue where I deleted the boot entry, is there a way to put it back?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[10:47] <iceroot> zortec: live-cd
[10:48] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure what to write in the boot.ini file in windows to restore the grub menu
[10:48]  * kcj1993 is off to get food
[10:48] <iceroot> zortec: boot.ini has nothing to do with grub
[10:48] <zortec> iceroot: I thought boot.ini controlled what operating systems are present in the grub menu, correct me if I'm wrong
[10:48] <iceroot> zortec: menu.lst
[10:49] <iceroot> zortec: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> zortec: something like this: http://pastie.org/715861
[10:49] <zortec> iceroot: where do you find that on windows? sorry I'm confused now
[10:49] <klpt> hm. so i don't think vim and such are the right answer. they do syntax highlighting, but i'm also looking to launch and have a console window in the ide. other than that, i don't really need anything else. it's more than a text editor, but way less than eclipse
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> zortec: i'm just websearching. I despise wubi
[10:49] <iceroot> zortec: its not on windows, its on linux
[10:49] <zortec> I'm not using wubi.  I need to restore the grub menu so that I can hit -esc- to select ubuntu to boot up if that makes any sense
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: its getting ubuntu booted though
[10:49] <zortec> on windows xp sp3
[10:50] <erUSUL> !editor | klpt
[10:50] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i thouht you were gonna kick him over to ##windows ;)
[10:50] <klpt> !coe
[10:50] <klpt> !code
[10:50] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes, thats normally my job here :)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zortec: oh i see, then boot to live CD and you can edit the file there
[10:50] <zortec> ok, so I need to make a live-cd to fix my problem in windows?
[10:50] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: can we start a "wubi needs to burn and should be scrapped" petition
[10:51] <zortec> ActionParsnip: or would any live-cd work to fix the menu?
[10:51] <TheFunkbomb> Alijah needs a good gline
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> zortec: as long as it can read and write to your chosen filesystem, why not
[10:51] <plitter> is there a way to stop people from trying to send me stuff?
[10:51] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: never used wubi, so i dont know if it is a bad thing
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> plitter: set your client to not accept any DCC requests
[10:51] <hassanakevazir> apparantly mother spanks child hard ... ... What on earth
[10:52] <iceroot> zortec: use a live-cd, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst (linux) and fix your menu.lst   the boot.ini from windows has NOTHING to do with grub is showing
[10:52] <openstandards> someone tried sending me the file too
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> zortec: it will be the file on the partition, the live cd environment will have the file too
[10:53] <zortec> iceroot: so what I did was to delete it from menu.lst and that is why it doesn't show up now?
[10:53] <ardchoille> iceroot: Just FYI, Karmic doesn't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you may need to run: gksudo nautilus (or whatever file browser, text editor as root) so you can edit the file
[10:53] <zortec> iceroot: and would be why I need to fix the menu.lst file?
[10:53] <iceroot> ardchoille: we are talking about jaunty if i am correct
[10:53] <zugiart> @zortec nope my upgrade from .04 to .10 was woeful. Luckily my data was in the network, and I have an auto install package script, so setup wasn't too painful.
[10:53] <silv3r_m00n> where can I find this google chrome os ?
[10:53] <llutz> ardchoille: zortec is on jaunty
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !ot | silv3r_m00n
[10:53] <ardchoille> iceroot: ok
[10:53] <iceroot> ardchoille: but i dont know correctly
[10:53] <ecolitan> how to find out what version of a package is installed?
[10:54] <llutz> ecolitan: apt-cache policy
[10:54] <iceroot> zortec: was your linux jaunty or karmic? (grub 1 or grub2)?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: dpkg -l | grep package name
[10:54] <zortec> sorry, let me start over because I want to make sure I know what I am doing... the linux that I have currently installed is jaunty but I made some changes to the grub menu so that it would boot into XP only and I have no way to bring the grub menu back up when I hit -esc- now
[10:54] <colon> can someone help with connecting an ubuntu machine to a hidden network with wpa?
[10:54] <ecolitan> llutz, ActionParsnip: thank you
[10:55] <iceroot> zortec: ok, again... use a live-cd, then go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and repair that file
[10:55] <iceroot> zortec: every normal ubuntu-cd is a live-cd too
[10:56] <zortec> iceroot: ok, I can do that... it's just that I thought maybe there was a solution that didn't require making a live-cd unless I have one lying around here
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: it will be in /media/<some UUID here>/boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:56] <iceroot> zortec: no
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: mounted partition remember ;)
[10:56] <llutz> zortec: you can do it from windows if ifs-driver for ext2 are installed
[10:56] <colon> anyone help with hidden wpa on 9.04 not authenticating?
[10:56] <zortec> llutz: sorry, but you lost me if what is installed?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> colon: you can tell network manager to connect to hidden ESSIDs
[10:57] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: live-cd is automounting (if i am correct)
[10:57] <llutz> zortec: ext-driver for windows (fs-driver.org)
[10:57] <zortec> llutz: how do you check if that is installed?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sure but under /media   /boot is in the live CD environment
[10:57] <morgan> Hi all! I have an Acer Aspire One (531) which works wonderfully with Ubuntu 9.10 (except for the Bluetooth and Wireless lights, which I can live without). Minor niggle though, everytime the system resumes from suspend/sleep it finds my SD card and starts Thunar. I end up with many instances open, how do I stop this happening.
[10:57] <llutz> zortec: yiou should know what you've installed. makes linux partitions accessible from windows
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> colon: you may want to check your card can connect to wpa networks
[10:58] <zortec> llutz: but I don't know if I installed that in windows or not... honestly don't remember
[10:58] <llutz> zortec: check windows then
[10:59] <llutz> zortec: but i doubt you have, since you would remember having linux-fs access from windows
[10:59] <zortec> llutz: no, I haven't
[10:59] <llutz> zortec: live-cd, could be a simple small one, like dsl
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> or puppy
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> or even xpud (i love xpud)
[11:00] <llutz> or one of the other million available
[11:00] <zortec> llutz: I will go find one, but it might be an older version of ubuntu
[11:00] <colon> ActionParsnip, yay, you're my hero! I changed wep to wpa on my router, connected 2 nix netbboks, then an xp laptop, and now i have 2 laptops that wont connect. one is ubuntu 9.04, the other crashbang. i tried to get them to connect to hidden network, and it looks like they will authenticate, then it pops up to enter password. The correct password is being entered, but they arent associating. The hidden network now appears on network list
[11:00] <colon> , though. have tried deleting network and re-creating, to no avail. Any ideas? ubu was connected via wep before change, crashbang is new install.
[11:00] <zortec> llutz: like the 8.10
[11:00] <llutz> zortec: would be fine
[11:00] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: :( yes, you are right
[11:00] <llutz> zortec: you just need ext2-support
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: got your back bro
[11:01] <terminatorul> Hello
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Jello
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> colon: now you changed the security you buddys may have an issue connecting ;)
[11:02] <terminatorul> Can anyone please tell me how do I install a packages in my home dir without super-user privileges ?
[11:02] <iceroot> terminatorul: a *.deb? or a *.tar.gz?
[11:02] <eremite> magic?
[11:02] <terminatorul> deb
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure thats easially doable.  Was wondering about that the other day also terminatorul
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> terminatorul: if its a deb you MUST have sudo access
[11:03] <terminatorul> How about a .tar.gz ?
[11:03] <colon> ActionParsnip, i had some odd entried in router log, hence the upstep in encryption
[11:03] <iceroot> terminatorul: without sudo or chroot in /home i dont think its possible
[11:03] <erUSUL> terminatorul: a deb no way tghat i know of. a compile yourself tar.gz « ./configure --prefix=~/ » works for some porgrams
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  source, depends on the source. You can normally compuile stuff and tell it to install whever you want.,
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> terminatorul: you can compile the source and run it where it sits, you will NOT be able to put it in the system at large for all to use
[11:03] <terminatorul> I want to install only for me, not for all to use
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  use soure, keep it in your home then.
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  what are you trying to install?
[11:04] <terminatorul> I compiled Vim with prefix=/home/adrian.., but the compiled version does not have all the features
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> terminatorul: then you can use tar.gz binarys or source and store it in iyour home folder, it will run
[11:04] <init[1]> terminatorul: and set the PATH to ~/bin
[11:04] <terminatorul> How can I tell if my server has ubuntu ?
[11:04] <init[1]> terminatorul: install it in ~/bin
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  then you need to include more options when you ./configure it
[11:04] <colon> ActionParsnip, in ubuntu 9.04, i clicked the network manager, clicked connect to hidden network, enetred essid, wpa and pass, and manual ip/subnet/gateway.
[11:05] <terminatorul> uname only says Linux
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  uname -a (i think)
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  or try lsb_release
[11:05] <terminatorul> GNU/Linux
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  or try lsb_release -a
[11:05] <linxeh> is there a command line tool that can create pdfs from a bunch of image files?
[11:05] <terminatorul> But apt-get and dpkg are available
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> lots of distros use apt-get system
[11:05] <terminatorul> It says Debian lenny
[11:05] <Gateway`> Terminator, cat /etc/issues
[11:05] <colon> ActionParsnip, exactly the same as i did on this netbook, which is ubuntu 9.10 rmx. this had no problems, 9.04 wont associate
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  theres your answer then :)
[11:06] <Gateway`> Terminator, cat /etc/issue
[11:06] <terminatorul> No such file or directory
[11:06] <Slart> linxeh: yes... search in synaptic for pdf
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> colon: no idea dude i dont use network manager
[11:06] <terminatorul> Oh, sorry
[11:06] <Slart> linxeh: I can't remember the name.. but it's there
[11:06] <terminatorul> Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
[11:06] <linxeh> heh ok ta
[11:06] <zortec> I have another linux question that has been on the back of my mind... is there any difference in apt-get and aptitude and does one work better than the other?  One is obviously shorter to type, but apart from that... any other things?
[11:06] <colon> ActionParsnip, what do you use? is there a conf somewhere i can set up by text?
[11:06] <terminatorul> Ok, how do I install a binary .tar.gz in ~/bin ?
[11:06] <Gateway`> Terminator, is that what you were looking for ? :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> colon: /etc/network/interfaces is what i use
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> terminatorul: debian isnt supported here
[11:07] <colon> ActionParsnip, thanks, ill go find an example on the web.
[11:07] <morgie> Hey
[11:07] <Slart> zortec: not really.. some minor stuff with dependencies but nothing major
[11:07] <init[1]> terminatorul: ./configure --prefix=~/bin
[11:07] <zortec> Slart: is sudo apt-get the preferred method?
[11:07] <terminatorul> Ok, I joind #debian
[11:07] <terminatorul> Thank you
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> thanks
[11:08] <Gateway`> zortec, all that I know is that you don't have to use them both
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  You extract the source and compile it. You proberly DONT want to use --prefix=~/bin,  prefix=/home/username  or /home/username/app  may be better idea
[11:08] <Slart> zortec: whichever you prefer works fine.. I think apt-get is the original.. but both work just a well
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I set clean urls with drupal, I have activated the module and altered the default files found in sites-available & enable but the option in the drupal installation is still greyed out, so how do i go about doing it in karmic?
[11:08] <iceroot> Slart: dpkg is the original
[11:08] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: maybe better trying drupal support channels
[11:08] <Gateway`> indeed
[11:08] <Slart> iceroot: ok, sorry.. apt-get is the originaler of the two =)
[11:09] <iceroot> Slart: :)
[11:09] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, ok
[11:09] <Gateway`> :)
[11:09] <linxeh> Slart: pdfjam ?
[11:09] <terminatorul> Thanks Willis. My compiled version is not as good as the packaged one; it is missing some features, and ther are no configure options for them ...
[11:09] <terminatorul> So I though I would try to install a package
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  you missed some options in the ./config stuff, or you dont have all the support/dev/libs installed
[11:10] <_agn_> Pirate_Hunter: you might want to load mod_rewrite
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  vim has dozens of configure options last time i tried to compile it
[11:10] <init[1]> Dr_Willis: why is that --prefix=~/bin wouldn't work ?
[11:10] <terminatorul> I guess they are not on the configure command line any more ..
[11:10] <zortec> Slart: I was reading an article some time ago that said apt-get did remove all of the dependencies and you were left in dependency hell but that this was fixed and now you can go with either one
[11:11] <nosbor> does anyone know of a c++ programming tutorial program in the repositories?  i've looked at droidbattles but that's not quite what i'm after.
[11:11] <zortec> Slart: apt-get did not remove all of the dependencies
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> init[1]:  if the thing  installs for example to /usr/bin   for its binaries.. you just tole it to do ~/bin/bin
[11:11] <Meowpup> Hi i have set up mint fortune to display what i want now wanda the fish taskbar aplet. when clicked on it fortune comes up garbled. any ideas???
[11:11] <Slart> zortec: yes.. I think ubuntu has a patched version.. not sure if they changed it themselves or if it was fixed upstream though
[11:11] <init[1]> terminatorul: ./co/win 12
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> init[1]:  and all the suport files would ALSO go in bin/docs or bin/libs or bin/whatever
[11:11] <init[1]> terminatorul: typo
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> init[1]:  not what you want to do i imagine
[11:11] <mercutio22> Does anyone here understand about that folder encryption thing? My hard drive seems to be fool and I am suspecting my home folder contents are copied in another location since the .ecryptfs has the exact same size as my home
[11:11] <mercutio22> ops
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> _agn_, already did when lamp was installed
[11:12] <mercutio22> I meant my HD is full
[11:12] <Meowpup> Dr_Willis: any ideas atm
[11:12] <terminatorul> Is there an option for apt-get install planned for the future that will allow for private installations ?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> Meowpup:  on what? :)
[11:12] <Meowpup> Hi i have set up mint fortune to display what i want now wanda the fish taskbar aplet. when clicked on it fortune comes up garbled. any ideas???
[11:12] <erUSUL> terminatorul: no;
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> Meowpup:  I dont use Mint, mint has its own channel/irc server. its not Ubuntu :)
[11:12] <terminatorul> Ok
[11:12] <terminatorul> Thank you  guys ...
[11:12] <init[1]> Dr_Willis: ah yes,
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> terminatorul:  i doubt it.
[11:13] <morodock>   
[11:13] <nosbor> does anyone know of a c++ programming tutorial program in the repositories?  i've looked at droidbattles but that's not quite what i'm after.
[11:13] <_agn_> Pirate_Hunter: nothing left to be done with drupal ?
[11:13] <_agn_> i don't know about drupal
[11:14] <zortec> nosbor: Why would there be a programming tutorial in the repos?
[11:14] <_agn_> apache2ctl -M | grep rewrite
[11:14] <Meowpup> Dr_Willis: i know but i am asking here as ubuntu has same application. fortune and wanda fish.
[11:14] <zortec> nosbor: That is more of something you would find on the interweb
[11:14] <Meowpup> and they are similar os
[11:14] <ikonia> Meowpup: please don't ask here, please use the correct support channels
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Meowpup:  we have no idea what the Mint guys have done to those apps.  So it dosent matter.
[11:14] <nosbor> ok, thanks
[11:14] <Pirate_Hunter> _agn_, hmmm you might be right let me see if restart puts it into action maybe the install will allow the option
[11:15] <Meowpup> ok Dr_Willis i understand what you are saying. i just like help. is there a kubuntu chanel around
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> wanda the fish here says 'unable to locate the command execute'
[11:15] <_agn_> you have to restart apache after enabling a module
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Meowpup:  there is #kubuntu
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> wanda the fish here says 'unable to locate the command to execute'   I dont have fortune installed i guess..
[11:16] <ardchoille> lol
[11:16] <Pirate_Hunter> _agn_, you're right just needed to restart apache
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> The mint devs are a little... weird with the fortune command...
[11:16] <zortec> I know this is an ubuntu irc room, let me know if this is not allowed... but I wanted to hear what people think of windows 7 when compared to ubuntu
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:16] <Madpilot> Meowpup, if you're running Linux Mint, check their website for support options, please
[11:16] <zortec> if that is a fair comparison at all
[11:17] <nunojpg> The login process in ssh is very slow from my ubuntu machine. I've checked that disabling /etc/ssh/ssh_config last 2 lines, 'GSSAPIAuthentication yes' and 'GSSAPIDelegateCredentials no' solves the problem.
[11:17] <nunojpg> what are they for originally?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> wanda the fish - works properly on 9.10 :)
[11:17] <init[1]> zortec: crap, both have its own users ,and users for win7 being more dump ;)
[11:17] <ikonia> please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <Meowpup> mad who said i was. i usually do. am setting up karmic atm
[11:18] <Meowpup> ^ Madpilot
[11:18] <ikonia> Meowpup: you said you where running mint
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> >>> Meowpup | Hi i have set up mint fortune to display what i want now wanda
[11:18] <ikonia> Meowpup> Hi i have set up mint
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:18] <Meowpup> yes i usually do use mint just a slip of tongue sorry
[11:19] <ikonia> Meowpup: no it wasn't
[11:19] <ikonia> Meowpup: re-read what you said, you said you KNOW about mint's support but came here anyway as they are similar
[11:19] <ikonia> Meowpup: don't lie
[11:21] <Stanto> Hello, I have just installed ubuntu 9 and made sure ufw is not running, I have also tried changing from network-manager to wicd as recommended by one guide I have read, but what I want is to be able to ping the OS when set a static IP address. However it is not responding, what could I check within the OS to ensure that it should be permitted? THank you.
[11:21] <Meowpup> whatever ok i will come back another day then ikonia
[11:21] <init[1]> Meowpup: truth hurts :P
[11:22]  * swamptin feels like he caught the end of a "problem exists between keyboard and chair" moment
[11:22] <Madpilot> swamptin, pretty good call, I'm afraid
[11:23] <Gateway`> don't lie to me :)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Now the Mint devs will hate us even more. :)
[11:23] <Symmetria> hrm, is there a problem with 2.6.31 and md arrays, when I boot 2.6.27 all my arrays come online fine, with 2.6.31 it refuses to see one of the drives in each array
[11:23] <swamptin> oh well. We can't all be super l337 haxors. I hope someone told him to have at the Gibson :)
[11:25] <swamptin> here, while I love being an ass, I actually came in here to let some members of the support team know something that happened me on reboot after a partial upgrade.
[11:25] <ikonia> swamptin: please clam down with how you address issues in here
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Partial upgrades are scary.
[11:25] <ikonia> swamptin: state your problem calm and polite
[11:25] <shriekout> Alijah?
[11:26] <swamptin> I had a cpu error, which it would appear forced X to hang and ultimately crash.
[11:26] <ikonia> shriekout: he was removed from the network a long time ago
[11:26] <shriekout> hum...
[11:26] <shriekout> ikonia, who is he?
[11:26] <darren> gees
[11:26] <ikonia> shriekout: he's gone, don't worry about it
[11:27] <swamptin> I'm on a Sony Vaio VGN FS195vp. Now, while it didn't occur after a second reboot, I just wished to let people know. In case others experienced it.
[11:27]  * Stanto sad panda
[11:27] <darren> this release has been a challenge
[11:27] <shriekout> ikonia, yes... thanx
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> darren:  ive had no issues with it. so i guess it depends on the hardware/other things  a great dea
[11:27] <darren> well the dns issue was the first
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> darren:  is there an actual tech support question at the end of this? :)
[11:30] <mostafa> Is there a way to switch the language with a keyboard shortcut?
[11:31] <okubax> does anyone knows why banshee makes my system to run slowly after waking from sleep?
[11:32] <mercutio22> are the contents of your home folder duplicated when using home folder encryption?
[11:32] <okubax> mercutio22: no
[11:32] <init[1]> mostafa: scim
[11:34] <LimCore> ikonia: it's not ok to ask about  how would I do X in Ubuntu - if I was trying X in other distro?
[11:36] <mercutio22> okubax my disk is full and disk usage analyser says there are two 31gb folders inside my home: .ecryptfs and my user folder. Is that the way it should be?
[11:37] <mercutio22> dang he left
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> mercutio22:  i wonder if one is some sort of link/fuse trick.  I dont know how home encryption works. ive never wanted to use it.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> I imagine your 'actal data' is in a encrypted 'file' that gets mounted some how to your actual home location.
[11:38] <Spixx> Quick question: when doing an LDAP search (against AD) I get "a successfull bind must..." error. Im going through libnss-ldap?
[11:38] <ikonia> LimCore: not really as it will be different in ubuntu normally
[11:38] <Jimi_Neutral>  /msg NickServ identify coldcuts
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> Jimi_Neutral:  time to change passwords
[11:39] <ikonia> LimCore: asking I've just enabled $X in redhat, how do I enable it in ubuntu is very acceptable
[11:39] <Jimi_Neutral> Dr_Willis, yup but i dunno how lol
[11:39] <LimCore> Jimi_Neutral: you lose 5000 exp and 3 skill levels in security
[11:39] <kloeri> Jimi_Neutral: /msg nickserv help set password
[11:39] <Jimi_Neutral> LimCore, lolol
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> Jimi_Neutral:  no spaces befr /msg is a start. and do such mgs in the irc status window. is a good habbit
[11:39] <mercutio22> Dr_Willis: yeah... I wonder if the disk usage analyser is counting the link as another copy
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> mercutio22:  i imagine it is.
[11:40] <init[1]> mercutio22: try df -h
[11:41] <mercutio22> Dr_Willis: init[1] wait... i can't open firefox to pastebin... my disk is full
[11:41] <biophysics> hi guys, I am looking for a commandline faac file player. my mplayer cannot play it
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> biophysics:  i seem to recall needing the libfaad installed befor  playing those.. but i cant recall last time i needed to do that
[11:42] <init[1]> mercutio22: df -h would give that actual usuage you don't need FF
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> !find libfaad
[11:43] <mercutio22> init[1]: /dev/sda5 is 100% in use
[11:43] <init[1]> mercutio22: if apps starts to complain then there are problem croping up
[11:43] <Spixx> RT: Quick question: when doing an LDAP search (against AD) I get "a successfull bind must..." error. Im going through libnss-ldap?
[11:43] <init[1]> mercutio22: yea its full
[11:43] <mercutio22> init[1]: the weird thing is that it got filled overnight
[11:44] <mercutio22> init[1]: so I am wondering if the torrent files I am downloading to an external hd has anything to do with it. Then I stumbled in the encryption problem. It seems my home folder contents are duplicated
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Torrents - the reason HD sales are so strong. :)
[11:45] <Spixx> mercutio22: check where the torrent program stores the files?
[11:45] <init[1]> mercutio22: du -h | sort | tail
[11:45] <gui7> good morning
[11:45] <init[1]> mercutio22: would give you what has filled up
[11:45] <indus> what speed is needed to steam 1080p
[11:45] <indus> stream
[11:45] <Spixx> check bitrate on the file?
[11:45] <gui7> i've got ubuntu dual-booting with windows xp (which I must keep for work) with GRUB as a bootloader, but I'd liek to completely re-isnatll everything
[11:46] <mercutio22> init[1]: its the .private folder
[11:46] <gui7> ideally, i'd liek to completely wipe my hard drive and install everything all over
[11:46] <nostracracko> gui7 why?
[11:46] <mercutio22> init[1]: I got lots of crazy characters as output of that command
[11:46] <edgy> Hi, I see redhat patch thos CVE's regulary e.g http://www.redhat.com/security/data/cve/CVE-2009-3624.html but in ubuntu I don't see that, how are things going here?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  the installer can reformat the filesystems.
[11:47] <mercutio22> Spixx: where is the transmission folder?
[11:47] <Spixx> check .tranmission. But I think you can check that in the settings to
[11:47] <gui7> nostracracko, first of all because windows has completely slowed down AND i'd like to upgrade to win7, and i've been messing a little too much with ubuntu and i'd just liek to start all over
[11:47] <VCoolio> if someone knows how to get 5.1 with oss (audigy soundcard, no x-fi) please join #oss to help me; or here is also ok though a bit busy
[11:47] <gui7> Dr_Willis: the thing is, will it erase grub or leave it behind? i'm afraid taht'll cause problems
[11:48] <Slart> indus: I would say it depends on compression and such.. but I've got this vague memory of blueray needing up to 50 Mb .. not sure though
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  you can always reinstall the grub boot loader.   9.10 clean install uses grub2 by default. a Upgrade uses grub1
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> It pays to learn your Grub-fu
[11:49] <gui7> yeah, thats also why i want to do it - to learn it as grub's always been my weak point
[11:49] <gui7> grub is in the "boot" folder of the ubuntu partition right?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 is still a little weak in the documention area.
[11:49] <BUBUNTU> Is there someone who can help me with Kopete. i have a creative webcam . i use a yahoo account. my friends dont see my request to view my cam
[11:49] <mercutio22> Spixx: .transmission inexists. I am afraid I don't see anything in the settings menu. But probably the files are downloaded to the internal HD before being transfered to the external one
[11:49] <erUSUL> edgy: see the update notes when you recive one
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  grub2 has files in several locations. the critical ones are in /boot, GRUB instsalls to the 'mbr' of the hard drive normally
[11:49] <indus> Slart: heh 50 mb
[11:50] <indus> i will need to work for the gov then
[11:50] <gui7> i see - how can i delete/alter what's in the mbr though (if i can)?
[11:50] <indus> Slart: i have 2 mbps line which streams 720p fairly ok
[11:50] <gui7> i dont mind stickign with grub1 though
[11:50] <Jimi_Neutral> ok i think thats right, what a dick i am
[11:50] <nostracracko> gui7 you can multi boot
[11:50] <indus> Slart: but iam bandwidth limited so i watch 1 clip a day
[11:50] <VCoolio> mercutio22: transmission config folder is in ~/.config
[11:50] <nostracracko> gui7 you can make several partitions
[11:50] <mercutio22> VCoolio:
[11:51] <Spixx> mercutio22: yes that is what happens there is a choise of "deleting source file" when done try that?
[11:51] <nostracracko> gui7 that way u can have several OSs and play with em or mess however u want
[11:51] <gui7> nostracracko, that's exactly what I want
[11:51] <Slart> indus: of course you can get away with much lower than that.. that's why 1080p rips are way smaller than a pure bluray copy.. ahem.. legal copies.. of course..
[11:51] <nostracracko> gui7 cool... i have several 100MB partitions.. which i can install any oS as i like
[11:51] <indus> all rips online are ilegal :) Slart
[11:51] <edgy> erUSUL:  the question is why in my ubuntu I don't receive update notes for all those CVE's?
[11:52] <nostracracko> gui7 i have 3 partitions with 3 win flavors and 2 ubuntus on 2 others
[11:52] <edgy> erUSUL: they are serious vulnerabilities
[11:52] <erUSUL> edgy: do they apply to ubuntu? redhat is a slow moving distro packages are older
[11:52] <Slart> indus: hmm.. trying very hard to think of a legal example... I'll get back to you when I've found something =)
[11:52] <init[1]> mercutio22: soory i was afk
[11:52] <edgy> erUSUL: yes they apply to ubuntu or else I won't be asking
[11:53] <indus> Slart: who wants HD video for anything other than movies anyway :) i cant buy HD here yet,
[11:53] <init[1]> mercutio22: du -h | sort -n | tail <-
[11:53] <indus> Slart: only bluray is HD right?
[11:53] <Madpilot> edgy, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[11:53] <init[1]> that would help you out to find the larget file
[11:53] <gui7> nostracracko: how do you do it? do you still keep grub on the mbr? because i heard/read that you can have it on its own partitions - would it be more practical? how do you do it?
[11:53] <nostracracko> gui7 when there's a new version of ubuntu, i do a clean install.. much faster.. altho u have to re-install some sw but that's fine cos it's much 'cleaner'
[11:53] <indus> Slart: i watched transformers 720p and i wont ever go back to dvd now
[11:53] <Madpilot> edgy, if you're keeping your system updated, you will be getting all the security updates
[11:53] <zugiart> Help! Ubuntu doesn't recognize my e71 anymore. tried modprobe but still no avail. Previously in 9.04 it reconizes the e71 as a modem device when I connect it in 'PC sync mode' I can then mount this on my XP VM and use Nokia PC Suite from there. Now it's not recognizing it at all. Here's pastebin to my dmesg | tail msg --> http://pastebin.com/m6615e8e7
[11:54] <gui7> nostracracko: what do you mean with "sw"?
[11:54] <indus> iam want to know, how do i buy HD content for movies
[11:54] <nostracracko> gui7 i dun care where grub is... i think it's on the mbr (sw=software)
[11:54] <Slart> indus: mm.. it's nice.. and also very offtopic here.. unless we go into how well vlc handles hd content and that nvidia gpu decoding stuff for linux
[11:54] <mercutio22> init[1]: its taking some time
[11:54] <nostracracko> gui7 u always install win first, then ubuntu and let grub settle the startup menu
[11:54] <bazhang> indus, please take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <gui7> ah ok
[11:54] <indus> are all new movies HD ? if so, do u need to buy blu ray disk
[11:55] <init[1]> mercutio22: it will wait and see
[11:55] <indus> bazhang: ok
[11:55] <init[1]> mercutio22: there is sort -n <- last time i missed it
[11:55] <gui7> isn't it a bit of a hassle to have to re-install everything when you re-isntall ubuntu? or do you just re-isnatll ubuntu and windows?
[11:55] <TheFuzzball> Where is the iptables config file in 9.10? I am configuring over SSH and it keeps freezing so I can't check
[11:55] <nostracracko> gui7 rephrase question
[11:56] <edgy> Madpilot: that page still doesn't list the vulnerability I mentioned and many others. You mean in Ubuntu I need to file it? I don't need to do that in RedHat. Is it really that security-wise Redhat is much better?
[11:56] <LimCore> TheFuzzball:  there is none,  you can just write own script and run it.  afaik.  unless you use some extra firewall toolo
[11:56] <gui7> when you do a clean install of ubuntu, what exactly do you have to reinstall/mess with?
[11:56] <Slart> gui7: depends on how much work you put into your system... you could of course keep the config files in your home folder.. that might cut down on the reinstall time
[11:56] <gilesw> heya shuttlers minions
[11:56] <erUSUL> edgy: red hat calims is not ulnerable becouse th afaulty commit is not in their kernels. is that not the case with ubuntu ?
[11:56] <mercutio22> init[1]: I am afraid I can't paste the contents into firefox
[11:56] <nostracracko> gui7 nothing... just decide which partition u wanna put the new clean install
[11:56] <erUSUL> edgy: have not checked; that's whay i ask
[11:56] <mercutio22> init[1]: I will ssh from another machine... just a sec
[11:56] <init[1]> mercutio22: it not meant to be pasted
[11:56] <Slart> !clone | gui7
[11:56] <TheFuzzball> LimCore: is iptables not installed by default then?
[11:57] <indus> gui7: dont forget vlc :) and other codecc sttuff
[11:57] <init[1]> mercutio22: listen
[11:57] <init[1]> mercutio22: did you find the file ?
[11:57] <gilesw> I'm trying to import some debian signing keys into ubuntu
[11:57] <init[1]> mercutio22: or set of files that has occupied your ~/ ?
[11:57] <Madpilot> edgy, I have no idea, to be honest. "distro x is insecure" would make the news in Linux circles, though, so doubt Ubuntu is any less secure than RH or others...
[11:57] <gui7> i seee - take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=639154
[11:57] <ardchoille> gilesw: Why? You can't install debian sources in Ubuntu
[11:57] <gui7> and this: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grubpartition.htm
[11:57] <gilesw> apt-key update only lists the ubuntu ones though
[11:57] <LimCore> TheFuzzball: iptables program is installed;  But it is not executed to congiure the actuall  "filtering tables" in kernel by default
[11:57] <gui7> wouldnt it be easier taht way?
[11:57] <mercutio22> init[1]: no. I am afraid I only got a list of small files
[11:58] <domen5> help..:: sometime Display Resolution setting until 5:4 but sometime only 800x600 (4:3).... what wrongs??
[11:58] <mercutio22> init[1]: as output from that command I mean
[11:58] <init[1]> mercutio22: du -h | sort -n | tail please paste this command exaclty
[11:58] <init[1]> mercutio22: there is a -n after sort
[11:58] <TheFuzzball> LimCore: crap, I can't connect through dyndns through port 1000 to webmin, the router is pointing to the ubuntu box so no problem there
[11:58] <edgy> erUSUL, Madpilot: I just installed ksplice and it complains about missing patches and I did install them and it's now applied but that's strange I need to download additional software to patch my ubuntu kernel
[11:58] <gilesw> I've got a hp package built for etch that i'm trying to install
[11:58] <gilesw> it does run with a libstc++ package
[11:59] <LimCore> TheFuzzball:   iptables -l  (or -L was it) to see the current tables.  if all is ACCEPT then you are wide open.
[11:59] <mercutio22> init[1]: yes, I made sure of that.
[11:59] <init[1]> mercutio22: that sequence of commands will list 10 file of greater size
[11:59] <Madpilot> edgy, if you're compiling your own kernels, then I guess a certain amount of the security headache is now yours. Congrats.
[11:59] <ardchoille> gilesw: Built for etch? It's not good to install packages in ubuntu that were made for debian
[11:59] <alabd> Good day everyone , after doing > sudo ln -s /usr/java1/jre1.6.0_17/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ yet firefox does not detect java (that is built from source) ?
[11:59] <gilesw> sure I wouldn't if they supported hardy
[11:59] <init[1]> mercutio22: can you pastebin that out , it will only have 10 entires
[12:00] <mercutio22> init[1] ok, just a sec
[12:00] <TheFuzzball> LimCore: yup, all says accept, mustn't be iptables then
[12:00] <edgy> Madpilot: I am not compiling my own kernel. ksplice help in pathing ubuntu kernel without compilation, without reboot
[12:00] <gui7> and this one too: http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/
[12:00] <ardchoille> gilesw: You will likely experience problem if you do that.
[12:00] <gui7> wouldnt taht work better?
[12:00] <gui7> i'm just afraid the grub in my mbr may be poitning somewhere and then /boot is no longer there
[12:01] <indus> gui7: did u create a separate /boot?
[12:01] <gui7> not yet
[12:01] <bradpitt> hi.. i have 2 HDD, one is ubuntu and the other one is kubuntu. but i just can't choose what i want to start with because i don't see grub screen. and when i try to run sudo update-grub2 the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/328420/ . please help :)
[12:01] <gilesw> at the moment I'm just bothered by why apt-key add <filename> is returning OK
[12:01] <gui7> indus: im just looking on what i WILL do
[12:01] <Madpilot> edgy, seriously, I think you're worrying too much. Ubuntu does not have a reputation as being insecure or slow to send security updates to users...
[12:01] <stanman246> hi in here. I'm thinking of using bzr for version control. But am really new to this, anyone using this?
[12:01] <gilesw> and yet the key isn't being imported
[12:02] <jml> stanman246, a lot of people are. join the #bzr channel to talk to some of them.
[12:02] <gilesw> ah i just ran a list and it is
[12:02] <edgy> Madpilot: this is a general statement but to prove it I am looking for a response like ubuntu is not affected by the CVE you meantion for this or that
[12:02] <gui7> would i have to mess with fstab or any of that?
[12:02] <gui7> !fstab
[12:02] <maxagaz> what doesn -p0 means in "patch -p0 </tmp/dhcp-3.0.5-ldap-patch" ?
[12:02] <stanman246> jml: ok thanks will do that!
[12:03] <init[1]> maxagaz: man patch ;0
[12:03] <nostracracko> gui7 don't mess with fstab
[12:03] <nostracracko> gui7 u dun need to
[12:03] <Madpilot> edgy, I have no idea. Email the security@ address on that security.ubuntu.com page if you have concerns.
[12:03] <mercutio22> init[1]: paste.ubuntu.com/328422
[12:04] <gui7> !partitions
[12:04] <gilesw> hrm i just checked the hp site and ubuntu is now listed
[12:04] <gilesw> sorry for wasting your time..
[12:04] <gui7> so to install grub in a separate partitions i wouldnt need to mess with fstab?
[12:04] <mercutio22> init[1]: you see, these are small files right?
[12:05] <init[1]> mercutio22: no check the entires 9 and 10
[12:05] <init[1]> mercutio22: what is your ~/ size ?
[12:06] <edgy> Madpilot: ok thanks for your care
[12:06] <init[1]> mercutio22: i mean you said the partition mounted on /home
[12:07] <mercutio22> init[1]: 111gb, but it seems my 31gb home folder is duplicated
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  grub is made of several parts.  the actual boot loader goes in the mbr of the drive the support files for grub2 are in /boot and /etc/grub
[12:07] <gui7> is there an easy way to list all partitions and their properties (ie file system, size, etc) easily?
[12:07] <mercutio22> init[1]: the .private folder is the same size as my user home folder
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  and grub dosetn have a lot to do with etc/fstab
[12:08] <indus> the grub can be installed to a partition too isntead of the mbr
[12:08] <gui7> ok good then
[12:08] <hkais> hello all
[12:08] <init[1]> mercutio22: the check the files and remove them
[12:08] <bradpitt> hi.. i have 2 hdd, one is ubuntu and the other one is kubuntu. but i just can't choose what i want to start with because i don't see grub screen. it's always boot from first hard drive. and when i try to run sudo update-grub2 the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/328420/ . please help :)
[12:08] <gui7> indus: thats what i want :D
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> indus:  yea :) its amazing the confusion ive seen from doing that. :)
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  in the past i have a single HD just for linux. I let grub go to the MBR of that hd. and leave the windows hd alone.
[12:08] <mercutio22> init[1]: can I just remove the .private folder?
[12:08] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[12:09] <init[1]> mercutio22: go inside it check the file
[12:09] <pat5star> gui7: fdisk -l
[12:09] <gilesw> well hp's idea of supporting ubuntu is to have their manual "support pack" installer
[12:09] <init[1]> mercutio22: if that is same as ~/ then remove it
[12:09] <gilesw> not going near that as I know these deb packages work
[12:10] <gilesw> bizarre that after googling it some people are still using alien to convert the rpm packages
[12:10] <gui7> would this guide work?: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grubpartition.htm
[12:11] <mercutio22> init[1]: I am not sure exactly how to check it. Would I have to mount the /home/.ecryptfs folder somehow?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[12:11] <ledr> sorry for spamming here ;) but can anyone help me with nfs client (mountall) on karmic server ?
[12:12] <init[1]> mercutio22: terminal
[12:12] <init[1]> mercutio22: cd ~/.private
[12:12] <init[1]> mercutio22: ls -l
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  clarify the problem to the channel  - someone may know the answer to a more specific question.
[12:13] <ridzaq> opps wrong channel
[12:14] <ledr> Dr_Willis: I first did an upgrade from jaunty to karmic, but nfs (from a netapp filer) won't get maunted automatically anymore (just an entry in fstab).. I then decided to do a clean install, but still have the same problem. The NFS gets mounted when I do a 'mount -a', but not automatically at boot.. It seems to be hanging with the mountall.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  you realize that guide/url you posted is for grub1, and is about  3+ yrs old. parts of it are out of date
[12:14] <gui7> Dr_Willis: i want to have grub set up in a way that i canmess up my partitions as much as i want (except teh grub one obviously) without having to reinstall/touch grub other than the menu.lst file
[12:14] <ledr> I put a description here as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/461133?comments=all But I'm not sure whether that's the right place (the two last posts there are mine)
[12:14] <gui7> Dr_Willis: how would it be done then?
[12:14] <UF-Gast226> gub boot from usb alternate
[12:14] <koruca> test
[12:14] <mercutio22> init[1]: sorry, I must have confused you. The folder is /home/.ecrypts. ls -l inside it gives total 4 ; drwxr-xr-x 4 mercutio22 mercutio22 4096 2009-11-02 01:00 mercutio22
[12:15] <gui7> is it recommended to use grub2 over grub1 now?
[12:15] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[12:15] <luiz_> i has problem before update kernel, in 2.6.31-15 the system tilt in usplah, any solution? my pc is laptop hp sempron
[12:15] <init[1]> mercutio22: wow
[12:15] <init[1]> mercutio22: you just found the reason
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  as a work around you could  try not mounting them via fastab. but via commands in /etc/rc.local - its possible theres some network stuff not set up when they are first trying to get mounted. thus they fail the first time. and not the 2nd.
[12:15] <UF-Gast226> jes
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  make a  small partiion and mount it to /boot/ its that simple. :)
[12:16] <init[1]> mercutio22: now confrim that all the 3 entries in .ecrypts are you home duplicates and delete
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  grub1 uses menu.lst -- grub2 uses different setting files.
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  when you do the install - use a manual partition layout similer to -->  (/boot)  (/)  (/home) (swap)
[12:16] <ledr> Dr_Willis: yes, I've thought about rc.local, but it seems so ugly, as fstab always just worked (tm).. network is loaded that's not the problem, as I also tried killing mountall after the server was booted, then I ran mountall --debug --verbose from the commandline and it hangs as well
[12:16] <ledr> I really think it's a bug in mountall
[12:16] <quizme> what's the command to append to a file
[12:17] <quizme> not with a pipe or >>  but there is a unix command for it
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  i dont recall ever using 'mountall'   NFS was working here on my small lan of 3 pcs under 9.10
[12:17] <ledr> Dr_Willis: exactly, mountall is new to me too, but afai understand it's "the new thing" to mount everything in 9.10, or is it not ?
[12:17] <mercutio22> init[1]: wait look, ls -la inside /home/.ecryptfs reveals another .ecryptfs folder and a .private folder. It gets complicated now.
[12:18] <nostracracko_> gui7 you can actually google 'multiple boot' / 'dual boot' / 'tri boot' with ubuntu, windows, whatever.. u'll get alotta guides out there
[12:18] <quesada> apt-get update gets stuck... is anyone experiencing slow servers today?
[12:18] <init[1]> mercutio22: are you sure encryptfs would be empty ?
[12:18] <init[1]> mercutio22: if so remove it
[12:18] <Asad> karmic koala is detecting a weird label for a FAT32 drive
[12:19] <Asad> any way to stop showing the stupid label? arggh.. jaunty was so much better
[12:19] <init[1]> Asad: what id that drive named in windows ?
[12:19] <Asad> there's no name/label for the drive on windows
[12:19] <Marco> hi all
[12:19] <Asad> it's the default D:
[12:19] <mercutio22> init[1]: which one? I am confused. The /home/.ecryptfs/mercutio22/.ecryptfs has 6 files in it
[12:20] <init[1]> Asad: what name does karmic give you ?
[12:20] <Marco> one question, how can i configure the central button of my Lenovo T61 trackpoint?
[12:20] <Asad> );  }   }  (with new lines in between)
[12:20] <Marco> I have instllalled gsynaptic but it's only for touchpad
[12:20] <init[1]> mercutio22: how come you have .ecyptfs in /home ?
[12:21] <mercutio22> init[1]: I am not sure. Shouldn't it be there?
[12:21] <mercutio22> init[1]: I mean.. by default?
[12:21] <Asad> I wonder if there's a way to manually set a label, init[1] ?
[12:21] <init[1]> Asad: yes
[12:21] <init[1]> mercutio22: 1 sec
[12:22] <init[1]> Asad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  ive neer used it on 9.10 - never heard of it. :)
[12:22] <mercutio22> init[1]: maybe it was because I recovered from a backfile a long time ago
[12:22] <init[1]> Asad: that should he you its similar for your drives too
[12:22] <init[1]> mercutio22: see /home will only and usually contain the users home folder
[12:23] <mercutio22> init[1]: I mean... I recovered my home folder from a backup tar file. Maybe my directory structure got messed up
[12:23] <Asad> yeah i know about that but i was afraid it might mess up something on the filesystem ... i was wondering if gnome could do custom labels
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> !info mountall
[12:23] <mercutio22> init[1]: and the .ecryptfs folder if you use home folder encryption right?
[12:23] <ledr> Dr_Willis: ah well, I put noauto on the fstab nfs options and put it in rc.local now.. at least it works, tnx
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  looks like mountall is for automounting hotplugged things.
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  but Im not finding a lot of docs/guides on it
[12:24] <ledr> Dr_Willis: are you sure ? as it also mounts swap and other filesystems
[12:24] <init[1]> Asad: mtools should help you
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> checking man pages. a whole 10 lines.. was googling for a wiki guide
[12:24] <ledr> Dr_Willis: I couldn't find many docs either
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> I dont sww aht it dies different from mount -a
[12:25] <Asad> ok thanks init[1] .. i will try it :)
[12:25] <init[1]> mercutio22: i have to go now ,sorry some one else should help ya
[12:25] <Dr_Willis>   This is a temporary tool until init(8) itself gains the necessary flexibility to perform this processing; you should not rely on its behaviour.
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  looks like its a tool to 'work around' other issues
[12:25] <mercutio22> init[1]: thanks
[12:25] <init[1]> mercutio22: yw ;)
[12:26] <diddy> Is there a way in Gnome desktop to force icons and folders into a grid as you can do on M$ Windows desktops? Or is the only way to right click on the desktop and choose "clean up by name" to line them up?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> ledr:  i need to r4ead up sone day on how ubuntu automounts this stuff. :) its getting too complex/different from what ive seen in the past
[12:26] <Marco> hey any infos on how to config centra butto of a trackpoint?
[12:26] <asaone> no ideal
[12:26] <ledr> Dr_Willis: yes, many changes.. perhaps I should've kept using LTS for servers :)
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  i think those features are a little lacking.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  clean up by name and keep aligned are about it.
[12:28] <diddy> Dr_Willis, where is "keep aligned" ?
[12:28] <sobersabre> hi guys.  I am considering TEAC MX-9 webcam. can somebody tell me what chipset it is and if it works under linux ?
[12:28] <diddy> Dr_Willis, never mind. Found it.
[12:28] <sobersabre> I googled a bit, but I can't determine its linux support status
[12:28] <sobersabre> I can't even find a product home page.
[12:28] <yossih> anyone knows how to deal with hp6530b going blank when settings on a docking station for half an hour or so. Any way to wake it up fails. (Ubuntu 9.10 - 64bit)
[12:29] <indus> sobersabre: check the mxhaard pate
[12:29] <indus> !webcam
[12:29] <diddy> Dr_Willis, I checked "keep aligned" but what does it do? I move the icons anywhere and they stay whereever I move them.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  i think it auto aligs them when ya log in, ive never noticed.
[12:30] <sobersabre> mxhaard pate ?
[12:30] <sobersabre> page ?
[12:30] <Peter1> Does anyone know how I can edit a file as part of a script? Like if(file.contains("this")) dont to anything, else add("this")?
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  actually it uses a larger grid.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  you can move them. but not over 1 or 3 pixles.. ya gotta move a whole icon width
[12:31] <diddy> Dr_Willis, got it. It only aligns them when in close proximity.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> diddy:  it uses a 32 or 62 pixle grid to  'keep them aligned' :)
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Peter1:  sed is designed for doing such tasks. theres other ways also.
[12:31] <diddy> Dr_Willis, yep. Thx
[12:32] <sobersabre>  indus mxhaard page ?
[12:32] <handjob> Hi all. Could someone tell what do i need to connect in "jack" to get my midi keyboard working with rosegarden? http://img130.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpv.png/
[12:32] <Peter1> Dr_Willis: So I guess I can learn it my man sed?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Peter1:  with a combo of grep/sed/awk  you can do lots of things
[12:32] <indus> sobersabre: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Peter1:  theres books written on using sed and awk. :)
[12:32] <indus> sobersabre: he makes every single webcam driver alone
[12:32] <indus> sobersabre: poor chap
[12:32] <Peter1> Dr_Willis: Books? geez...
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Peter1:  its amazing what awk can do :)  combine it with sed/bash/ and you really have a powerfull set of tools
[12:33] <sobersabre> indus: I don't understand how this page is related to
[12:33] <sobersabre> TEAC MX-9 webcam
[12:33] <sobersabre> I don't see any refernce on it to the above webcam.
[12:33] <indus> sobersabre: search if your webcam is supported ther or not
[12:33] <Peter1>  Dr_Willis: Ok, I guess I should start crackin' ;)
[12:33] <indus> sobersabre: check under gspca
[12:34] <sobersabre> indus: I will... gspca but how do you know it IS gspca ?
[12:34] <indus> sobersabre: it its not there, it wont work in linux unless its a uvc webcam
[12:34] <rob_p_> Peter1: These come in handy for me:  http://rob.pectol.com/awk/  and  http://rob.pectol.com/sed/
[12:34] <indus> sobersabre: ok check dmesg | tail after plug in cam
[12:34] <Peter1> rob_p: thanks :)
[12:34] <indus> sobersabre: unplug and replug
[12:35] <rob_p_> Peter1: welcome
[12:36] <optimizer> my monitors are off; when I press a key or move the mice; the monitors turn back on -- how does this happen? what controls this? (I want it so that pressing the keyboard wakes the monitors back on, but moving the mice keeps the monitors off
[12:36] <sybariten> is there any advantage in staying with hardy, instead of dist-upgrading to for instance intrepid ?
[12:36] <sybariten> i've heard hardy is very compatible/similar to debian stable, does that hold for later ubuntu releases as well?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[12:37] <sobersabre> indus: thanks for your great help. did you actually read my ... question ?
[12:37] <indus> sybariten: for an individual no, for larger setups if everything works fine and are too lazy to upgrade no need
[12:37] <indus> sobersabre: yes, whether teac webcam works or not
[12:37] <indus> sobersabre: so i gave you link to see if it does
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> sybariten:  if its working good for you - You may want to wait for the next LTS
[12:37] <indus> sobersabre: any other comments?
[12:38] <sobersabre> indus: you understand that if the webcam is NOT in the list you gave me it doesn't say it DOESN'T work.
[12:38] <sobersabre> right ?
[12:38] <sobersabre> so, I looked and didn't find it there.
[12:38] <sobersabre> now does anybody in this chan use TEAC MX-* webcam ?
[12:38] <sobersabre> any TEAC webcam ?
[12:38] <indus> sobersabre: well, then dont but it but first check if it uses gspca
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sobersabre:  you may have better luck checking the forums.
[12:39] <indus> sobersabre: is it uvc or gspca
[12:39] <sobersabre> indus: I don't have the camera so I can't lsusb it.\
[12:39] <indus> sobersabre: oh crap
[12:39] <indus> sobersabre: ya oops
[12:39] <indus> sobersabre: now i got it
[12:39] <sobersabre> and I saw it at an attractive price, and it looks good, but I don't have anything saying its chipset.
[12:39] <indus> sobersabre: sorry
[12:39] <sobersabre> so I'm shooting in the dark in here.
[12:39] <sobersabre> but still, thanks.
[12:40] <sobersabre> is there a uvc channel on freenode ?
[12:40] <indus> sobersabre: in that page, there is  chipset column which lists some teac maybe?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if anyone else has managed to collect a dozen web cams over the past few years like i have. :)
[12:40] <indus> sobersabre: uvc-berlios.de
[12:40] <indus> sobersabre: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[12:40] <sobersabre> indus: thanks. searching ...
[12:40] <Marco> about lenovo trackpoint, I installed this  http://tpctl.sourceforge.net/configure-trackpoint.html but I have no "Middle button" check box
[12:41] <Marco> anyone else have this problem?
[12:41] <indus> sobersabre: tell me name of cam again please
[12:41] <indus> full name
[12:41] <sobersabre> TEAC MX-9
[12:41] <sobersabre> sounds simple...
[12:41] <sobersabre> right ?
[12:41] <sobersabre> :)
[12:41] <FloodBot2> sobersabre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <indus> sobersabre: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891487
[12:43] <indus> !hardware | sobersabre
[12:44] <indus> if its not there,then stay awway frankly
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> indus:  proberly a good idea. Then again 'do you feel lucky'
[12:44] <Flannel> indus, sobersabre: that hardware compatability wiki section is horribly outdated for parts of it
[12:44] <munsking> howdy
[12:46] <simo_> hey a stupid guestion
[12:46] <simo_> how can i send a nudge in empathy? :D or am i just stupid
[12:47] <kcj1993> "/nudge"
[12:47] <simo_> i tried ^
[12:47] <kcj1993> oh that pidgin i thinking of
[12:48] <kcj1993> I'm*
[12:48] <gilesw> doh I found my problem, hpacucli was being pulled from http://hwraid.le-vert.net/
[12:50] <munsking> can someone tell me why i cant execute a home made command with sudo? i changed the $PATH in bashrc of root and my own user
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  try using sudo /full/path/to/command ?
[12:51] <munsking> ya that should work, but i want it to work as a normal script :P
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  'should' work.. but DOES it work?
[12:51] <gilesw> hrm so hwraid aren't signing their packages
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  check echo $PATH  be sure its in your path.
[12:51] <munsking> it does
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  the dir /home/username/bin  is in the users default path if it exists also.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  you could also link /root/bin to /home/username/bin if you wanted to
[12:52] <toman> hello there
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  its possible its how sudo handles the path for security reasons
[12:52] <sobersabre> indus: I hope it works... I'll try to read the box again...
[12:52] <gilesw> is there a way to disable gpg checks on a per repo basis?
[12:53] <MarkAngeles> sup guys. anyone can point me to a good tutorial for how to add rules in PolicyKit? manual is fairly limited ... :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  i see a similer issue here.
[12:53] <toman> i have a little problem. My tablet have some kind of acceleration .. i'm not sure what exactley
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  'colortest.sh' works but 'sudo colortest.sh' does not.
[12:53] <toman> any1 know how to fix this ?
[12:53] <slnr> I did some goof up with installation of one package where I removed gtk and upgraded glib-2.0 packages. now my desktop is missing I am on Jaunty 9.04 ubuntu
[12:53] <slnr> can someone help me how to recover my desktop
[12:54] <munsking> Dr_Willis: well i put my scripts in /home/scripts instead of in the bin directories, then i edited bashrc of both my user and root and i wrote "PATH=$PATH:/home/scripts" at the end of it, it works when executing as my own user and as root, but not with sudo somehow
[12:55] <Marco> here is the solution for trakpoint devices http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#TrackPoint_under_Xorg-7.4.2B_using_HAL
[12:55] <indus> sobersabre: is teac good company? logiteach works nice for cams
[12:55] <DuBz09> hiya all
[12:55] <indus> sobersabre:do one thing, take laptop with you, plug it in and see
[12:55] <indus> :)
[12:55] <slnr> can Someone help me pls
[12:55] <munsking> slnr: i found something on google that worked for me, but i have 9.10, i just typed "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" and relogged
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  i was thinking some things got moved to .profile and not .bashrc  ALSO i think that 'sudo' does not rerun/read the bash configs for root.  'sudo echo $PATH' shows the proper path here
[12:56] <munsking> slnr: log in using xterm instead of gnome
[12:56] <slnr> I am on cli now
[12:56] <n8tuser> slnr -> use tasksel perhaps
[12:56] <slnr> I could not get the desktop to be recovered
[12:56] <slnr> Munsking: I will try this now
[12:56] <munsking> Dr_Willis: tnx :)
[12:56] <munsking> slnr: k, good luck :)
[12:57] <munsking> Dr_Willis: $ sudo echo $PATH
[12:57] <munsking> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/scripts:/home/scripts  <<< it does use it o.O
[12:57] <MarkAngeles> slnr: have you tried apt-get install --reinstall <package_name> ?
[12:57] <MarkAngeles> slnr:  not sure if that will work though
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  its not useing it however. :) thats interesting. It may be a security feature of sudo
[12:59] <indus> Dr_Willis: using
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  in /etc/sudoers file i notice a line ---> Defaults        env_reset
[12:59] <indus> Dr_Willis: useing
[12:59] <sobersabre> indus: logitech costs 3 times more.
[12:59] <munsking> Dr_Willis: me confused xD well i guess i'll put it in another place then
[12:59] <sobersabre> and about the quality... I used logitech headset once, and it was great.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> indus:  You Sinf?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Sing.. la la dee daa...
[13:00] <indus> sobersabre: they are better though i think
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  I think sudo uses some safe defaults.. that may be the whole issue
[13:00] <munsking> Dr_Willis: yea i saw that too, but i dont dare to change the sudoers file xD (still a noobie)
[13:00] <sobersabre> then I bought another one and it is ... like sh1te. so brand/nobrand doesn't matter.
[13:00] <indus> sobersabre: try creative ?
[13:00] <sobersabre> indus: if you don't even know what TEAC is how can you compare to "logiTech" ?!
[13:00] <sobersabre> TEAC is a world standard in audio, in recording stuff.
[13:00] <indus> sobersabre:its nowhere near logitech now is it
[13:00] <indus> webcams
[13:00] <sobersabre> indus: in "webcams". maybe
[13:01] <indus> you said webcam not audio
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  use the full path, or link from /bin/whatever to /home/bubba/bin/whatever as a work around I guess
[13:01] <indus> ok you do as you please
[13:01] <indus> dont put your frustration on me will yea
[13:01] <Annonymorse> Is the windows build of Amarok really that unstable? How usable is it?
[13:01] <sobersabre> indus: thanks for your help, you helped me find out suspect chipset :)
[13:01]  * indus mumbles to himself
[13:01] <MenZa> !ot | Annonymorse
[13:02] <Annonymorse> poo
[13:02] <indus> sobersabre: what is the chipset?
[13:02]  * sobersabre taps on indus shoulder with a small trout
[13:02] <sobersabre> I think it's microdia.
[13:02]  * indus :(
[13:02] <sobersabre> indus: fish is food.
[13:02] <sobersabre> :)
[13:02] <Annonymorse> sorry, all-night stim binge messed with my head and I confused ubuntu with general linux discussion
[13:02] <munsking> Dr_Willis: yea i could do that, but i want to share this script later on. it's an installer script for warzone2100 :)
[13:02] <sobersabre> indus: unless you're a vegetarian... ooopsie.
[13:02] <sobersabre> ok, thanks, I must go.
[13:03] <Flannel> munsking: What's wrong with the version in the repos?
[13:04] <sclaha> hello
[13:04] <munsking> Flannel: version of what in wich repos? o.O
[13:04] <Flannel> munsking: Warzone 2100
[13:04] <sclaha> i cant do voice chat in yahoo:(
[13:04] <slnr> how to recover a ubuntu desktop gui if it does not come up
[13:04] <Flannel> munsking: sudo apt-get install warzone2100
[13:05] <alabd> good day everyone ; a java applet can not be opened with any version of java in ubuntu in any browser, but it has been loaded in vista/debian 6  why ?
[13:05] <munsking> Flannel: didnt notice there is one, i only read about 1 in the forums, wich did everything on it's own, not letting you choose anything. so i thought im going to make one for fun and see what those folks think about it
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  theres also that gpl-steam like tool called dlj (or djl) that can install warzone on a per user basic :)
[13:05] <sclaha> plz anyone help me:(
[13:05] <Flannel> munsking: Oh, that doesn't make any sense.  Just install the version in the repos.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  give url to the applet?
[13:06] <slnr> munsking: it did not work
[13:06] <alabd> Dr_Willis: it needs to pay to view page ...
[13:06] <n8tuser> slnr -> use tasksel perhaps  and select the desktop from the menu
[13:06] <munsking> Flannel: well I dont make any sense so that's perfect :D, i also thought i might learn a bit more about scripting wich is usefull for school/work :)
[13:07] <alabd> if is possible you say to be checked
[13:07] <Flannel> munsking: Well, you certainly could.  Just know that there's a package for it :)
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  check out --> http://en.djl-linux.org/
[13:07] <yagomorgan> como instalar webcam integrada no notebook?
[13:07] <tasslehoff> I'm slightly (ok then, very) confused by the manpage of mke2fs. Blocks and stripes and whatnot. How can I create an ext3 partition of 1GB on a device?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> alabd:  you are using the actual sun java? not some other java jvm>
[13:08] <ardchoille> !es | yagomorgan
[13:08] <sclaha> plz anyone help me
[13:08] <sledgeas> hello
[13:08] <slnr> nBtuser: I donot have a desktop so how to select a desktop using tasksel
[13:08] <SingAlong> how do i add a .desktop file to the menu?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> !im | sclaha
[13:08] <newbies> #u-classroom
[13:09] <newbies> sorry
[13:09] <munsking> Dr_Willis: ah is that something like synaptic?
[13:09] <alabd> Dr_Willis: sun , openjdk , built java , ... can not load
[13:09] <Younder>  Alijah is a hacker
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> munsking:  its like a gpl 'steam' :)
[13:09] <sledgeas> i have added http://ppa.launchpad.net to sources.list did apt-get update but sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd gives me dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[13:09] <Younder> he tried to dcc me  MOTHER_SPANKS_CHILD_RATHER_HARD.MPEG
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Younder:  your definition of 'hacker' is rather  broad.  sounds more like hes got some virus/infection going on.
[13:10] <n8tuser> slnr ->  it is a ncurses menu .. ie like console menu...  sudo tasksel    then select from the menu..  man tasksel for additional info
[13:10] <Younder> Dr_Willis, yes, cracker then
[13:10] <LjL> !exploit > Younder    (Younder, see the private message from ubottu) that has been dealt with
[13:11] <souffledev> !tell souffledev about mkfs.ext4dev
[13:11] <LjL> !msg the bot > souffledev
[13:11] <Dr_Willis>  /msg ubottu  love
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:12] <slnr> n8tuser: thanks
[13:12] <Guest81380> hello all
[13:12] <sclaha> i doesnt working:(
[13:13] <sclaha> it*
[13:13] <DrRobinTosh> so anyway
[13:13] <DrRobinTosh> i have a issue
[13:13] <DrRobinTosh> with Shorewall
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> sclaha:  on IRC - be clear and concice. assume we all have a 4 min attention span.
[13:13] <DrRobinTosh> cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/doc/shorewall-common/examples/one-interface/*': No such file or directory
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  and what command is giving that error?
[13:14] <n8tuser> slnr -> it works? you choosed the desktop  you like?
[13:14] <herryees> Escriba el texto aqufffd....alguien sabe español
[13:14] <sclaha> Dr_Willis: i cant do voice chat in yahoo nd cam chat also
[13:14] <bazhang> !es | herryees
[13:14] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/doc/shorewall-common/examples/one-interface/*': No such file or directory
[13:14] <DrRobinTosh> oops
[13:14] <n8tuser> DrRobinTosh -> just like what it says, those files dont exist
[13:14] <DrRobinTosh> sudo cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall-common/examples/one-interface/* /etc/shorewall/
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> sclaha:  address the channel - I dont do IM.  - there are different IM clients with different features. could be the one you are using does not support that feature.  I dont use any of them
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  doc files have moved/changes/renamed proberly
[13:15] <DrRobinTosh> ah.
[13:15] <DrRobinTosh> would you know where to find?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> I would start by looking wehere it says they should be
[13:16] <Dr_Willis>   /usr/share/doc/shorewall-common/examples/
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> yes, thats where it /supposed/ to be
[13:16] <paolo88> hi
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> usr is not tehre
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> i can not cd in to usr
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> !info shorewall
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> oops
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> i can
[13:16] <paolo88> I hava some problem with ddclient...anyone can help me?
[13:16] <sclaha> no one here to help me:(
[13:16] <DrRobinTosh> paolo88, we all have issues :P
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> sclaha:  youve not mentioned what IM client you are using. Thats a good bit of info to know. and is it a feature thats supposed to be included thats not working? or can you not see how to do it.. or what exactly
[13:17] <karmakurdan>  hello guys ,  I just installed wammu and it works fine with my samsung f480 ,  except I cant read sms from Memory  (I can read sms from sim card)
[13:17] <karmakurdan>  is wammu supposed to show sms just from sim card ? or it is supposed to show sms from both simcard and memory ?
[13:18] <paolo88> DrRobinTosh: can you help me?
[13:18] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: Did you say you can't cd into /usr ?
[13:18] <Axel> hi, where can I find details about upgrades to a Ubuntu version (in my case 9.04)?
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh> ardchoille, i can now
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh> paolo88, No sowee
[13:18] <ardchoille> ok
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh> shorewall-common
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh>  /shorewall-common/
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh> thast the issue
[13:18] <DrRobinTosh> -bash: cd: shorewall-common: No such file or directory
[13:19] <rayfun> hi, where can I find details about upgrades to a Ubuntu version (in my case 9.04)?
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  when in doubt - use the package manager tools and see what files the package installed where exactly.
[13:19] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: ls /usr/share/doc | grep shorewall  ?
[13:19] <DrRobinTosh> cbtw
[13:19] <DrRobinTosh> i have NO idea what you are taking about. i am a noob
[13:19] <DrRobinTosh> lol
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  fire up synaptic - look for the package you installed. check its details
[13:19] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: open a terminal and run this command: ls /usr/share/doc | grep shorewall
[13:20]  * Dr_Willis wonders why a noob is messing with shorewall anyway.....
[13:20] <ardchoille> indeed
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> -bash: /usr/share/doc: is a directory
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> Firewall
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> and
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> i am following a guide
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> on the interweb
[13:20] <DrRobinTosh> that failed
[13:21] <DrRobinTosh> somewhat
[13:21] <Ubee> Happy Thanksgiving all citizens of the USA.
[13:21] <FloodBot2> DrRobinTosh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <n8tuser> !enter | DrRobinTosh
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  perhaps its time to spend an hr+ reading a few bash tutorials and learning the command line a bit more
[13:21] <DrRobinTosh> sorry.
[13:21] <Ubee> I have a software related question for anyone that has tried installing Livestation.
[13:21] <karmakurdan> does anyone want to help me to read from my mobile's memroy ?
[13:21] <DrRobinTosh> i know, ls, cd
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  fire up synaptic, and look for the shorewall package. and use that to see exactly what files the shorewall package instgalled. and where it put them at.
[13:21] <DrRobinTosh> wth is synaptic?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  another basic tool to learn to use it seems. :)
[13:22] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: I second what Dr_Willis said, learning the command line will benefit you in the long run
[13:22] <DrRobinTosh> sorry.
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> !synaptic | DrRobinTosh
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> !info synaptic
[13:22] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: "dpkg -l shore*|grep ^ii"
[13:22] <DrRobinTosh> oh btw, how do i boot Ubuntu Sever in to GUI mode?
[13:22] <slnr> n8tuser: it gave a menu but selecting ubuntu-desktop just exitted
[13:22] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: you have to install a desktop or window manager first
[13:23] <slnr> I could not restore my desktop still
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  a 'server' has no gui installed by default :)
[13:23] <DrRobinTosh> i can do that how?
[13:23] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, how then? lol
[13:23] <Ubee> When I tried to install Livestation, the debian/Ubuntu version the package came back with a little bar that stated "this system does not support a system tray". What does this mean?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> DrRobinTosh: you don't the server is guiless. you can install one but you may as well install the desktop version
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  Install ubuntu-desktop package is one way
[13:23] <DrRobinTosh> ActionParsnip, i see
[13:23] <juhm> Is there some place where bugs/failures with great impact are posted? Searching bugs.launchpad would return too many hits.
[13:23] <ardchoille> !bugs
[13:23] <n8tuser> slnr -> that may have just installed your desktop?  so now try startx :1
[13:24] <Sergeant_Pony> how can I disable the screensaver on ubuntu 9.04 server?
[13:24] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: please don't say your server is in public-access
[13:24] <Ubee> can anyone answer my question?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Sergeant_Pony: server doesnt have x so has no screensaver
[13:24] <DrRobinTosh> llutz, its behind a firewall
[13:25] <DrRobinTosh> it is not yet port fowarded
[13:25] <Sergeant_Pony> ActionParsnip, then why does the screen go blank after 10 minutes?
[13:25] <juhm> ardchoille: if that was for me, thanks for helping, but I don't see what i am looking fore there.
[13:25] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: please keep that situation
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Sergeant_Pony: i see your point. i think its the screen timeout
[13:25] <DrRobinTosh> llutz, why is that?
[13:26] <Sergeant_Pony> ActionParsnip, ok... I'll have to look into it some more. Thanks
[13:26] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: we already have way too many servers driven by clueless-admins on the net
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> The console has some timeout thing. but i forget where its set.
[13:26] <ardchoille> juhm: That wasn't for you, I always prepend the user nick when replying.
[13:26] <ardchoille> juhm: But, what is your issue?
[13:26] <DrRobinTosh> it will be run by some nerd, i am jsut setting it up,
[13:26] <toman> Hello there. I'm using GIMP with ubuntu 9.04 with my AIPTEK 14000u, but something strange is going on - my mouse cursor is accelerating and the brush stroke do not correspond to what i'm drawing on the tablet. Can someone help me fix this problem ?
[13:26] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: you will set it up? rofl, scnr
[13:27] <DrRobinTosh> lmao yes
[13:27] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: that's what i meant
[13:27] <ardchoille> Ok, let's be respective of others.
[13:27] <b3rz3rk3r> ardchoille, respectful?
[13:27] <n8tuser> DrRobinTosh -> its okay you can have your own server on the net,
[13:27] <ardchoille> b3rz3rk3r: that too
[13:27] <DrRobinTosh> but
[13:27] <DrRobinTosh> it will get attacjed
[13:27] <mrXX> how can i get a new internal ip from my router?
[13:28] <DrRobinTosh> attacked*
[13:28] <slnr> I tried that but I could not get the desktop
[13:28] <slnr> what are necessary files to restore a broken desktop?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> for server disable screen blank http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418090
[13:28] <n8tuser> mrXX use of ip command or ifconfig
[13:28] <DrRobinTosh> ok, this is what i run to try and get shorewall
[13:28] <DrRobinTosh> sudo aptitude install shorewall
[13:28] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: No offense, but it sounds like  you are attempting to go from step 1 to step 9 as far as Linux goes. I feel you need to start with something more basic and work your way up as you learn.
[13:28] <llutz> ardchoille: it isn't respectful at all to connect servers like that to the internet. it affects lot's of other net-users (sry for OT)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> DrRobinTosh: i think that will stop the blanking
[13:29] <DrRobinTosh> ardchoille, none taken
[13:29] <n8tuser> mrXX i misread.. try  sudo ifdown eth1;  sudo ifup eth1
[13:29] <slnr> n8user if I do startx -l I get a blank screen
[13:29] <mrXX> n8tuser i have wireless
[13:29] <slnr> so how to restore my desktop
[13:30] <n8tuser> mrXX anymore info you want to divulge? or i have to pull it from you like a dentist does?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> slnr: uninstall the vga driver you just installed
[13:30] <mrXX> n8user peace brother!
[13:30] <BigDave> well boring presentation
[13:30] <BigDave> its on presentations
[13:30] <mrXX> i thought these chat rooms were for help
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> console blanking --->> setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0
[13:30] <b3rz3rk3r> lol
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[13:30] <n8tuser> mrXX giving us tidbits of info, does not help.. provide as much as you can so we can asssist
[13:31] <slnr> I was trying to install linphone in /usr directory yesterday and it screwed up my desktop
[13:31] <init[1]> mrXX:http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[13:31] <n8tuser> slnr -> you dont install  on the /usr directly normally
[13:31] <slnr> When u just rebooted it has shut down my desktop and entering into a console prompt
[13:31] <DrRobinTosh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328470/
[13:31] <slnr> yes
[13:31] <slnr> I did a mistake
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> thats what i get when runing "sudo aptitude install shorewal"
[13:32] <slnr> But now how to recover my desktop files back
[13:32] <mrXX> n8tuser ok, i will try, i m using wireless and i have no access to the router, i dont even know what router ther is. So can i ask for a new ip address for my wireless conncetion?
[13:32] <Peter1> What would I write in my script to store the pid of a process that same script started, and then kill it?
[13:32] <slnr> what re the steps
[13:32] <n8tuser> slnr you may as well re-install, attempting to recover /usr  is a hair-losing proposition
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  the problem is it shows no problem?
[13:32] <ardchoille> Peter1: you might ask in #bash
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> whats next then?
[13:32] <n8tuser> mrXX no access to your router?  is it really yours or the neighboors?
[13:32] <Peter1> ardchoille: k ty
[13:32] <slnr> my /usr is there. I am not recovering /usr
[13:32] <DrRobinTosh> theres no shorewall-common
[13:32] <slnr> I am trying to recover my desktop
[13:32] <mrXX> n8tuser it is of my company,
[13:33] <slnr> what should I try now
[13:33] <mrXX> n8tuser i mean i dont have the pass for the router
[13:33] <mrXX> n8tuser but can i renew my ip still?
[13:33] <n8tuser> mrXX you have tried to ask your IT support for these info? am assuming to just access AP without a permission is now considered illegal eh?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !info shorewall-commin
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !info shorewall-common
[13:33] <shutz`> mrXX: Isn't it a blanco pass?
[13:33] <shutz`> and username admin
[13:34] <n8tuser> mrXX btw, if its broadcasting the ssid,  try  like  sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan
[13:34] <pepijn_> is there any solution yet to having to remove the search line from grub.cfg?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:   apt-cache search shorewall
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  that shows the given packages that match. theres some tools in there you may want to use,
[13:34] <n8tuser> mrXX you ought to detect which AP are nearby and lash on to it, assuming you have the permission
[13:34] <mrXX> shutz` is it possible to know the ip of my router ?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  have you even tried the ubuntu specific firewall tools yet?
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328472/
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | DrRobinTosh
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> thats what it shows
[13:35] <pepijn_> my gf's laptop won't boot up everytime the kernel or grub is updated (karmic) and I have to manually edit grub.cfg and remove the search line.. after that it works fine
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: i am following http://paste.ubuntu.com/328472/
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  yes.. thats the list of all pacakges taht  have shorewall in their names/desc
[13:35] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: where do i find them
[13:36] <mrXX> n8tuser my ubuntu says unknown command scan
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  sudo apt-get install shorewall-common
[13:36] <n8tuser> mrXX you proly dont even have wlan0 or the driver for it is not loaded
[13:36] <Enissay> I've many folders a.b.c,..... , and I want to make an archive to each: a.zip b.zip ... how can i do that with a single command?
[13:36] <llutz> mrXX: iwlist s
[13:36] <DrRobinTosh> done
[13:37] <mrXX> n8tuser iwlist s did it
[13:37] <n8tuser> mrXX and yes my typo, it is iwlist wlan0 scan
[13:37] <grawity> Enissay: What are their actual names? They're really named "a" and "b" and "c"?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Enissay:  proper use of the find command can do that.. but its not going to be a simple command. :) id have to rember the syntax..
[13:37] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: you work wonders :P
[13:37] <n8tuser> i have not have a cup of coffee yet.. lol
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I learned the basics of Ubuntu.
[13:37] <grawity> Enissay: for dir in {a..z}; do zip -r "${dir}.zip" "$dir"; done
[13:37] <Enissay> grawity, nope, really differents names
[13:38]  * DrRobinTosh Throws n8tuser a can of His energy drink
[13:38] <grawity> Enissay: Then use my example, but instead of {a..z} type all the names, I guess.
[13:38] <mrXX> n8tuser what next, i can see the ESSID, encryption off... and other info
[13:38] <Briareos1> how can i ensure that ALT+TAB works to get out of rdesktop windows?
[13:38] <llutz> Enissay: find . -type d .... -exec zip ....
[13:38] <n8tuser> mrXX you select among the AP that you are permitted to access
[13:38] <grawity> Enissay: Or... maybe find -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec zip -r {}.zip {} \;
[13:39] <mrXX> n8tuser how do i know what are the access points?
[13:39] <Panda^^> Hello. What music program can I use to synchronise a iPod nano? I tried Banshee, but it doesn't find my iPod :(
[13:39] <n8tuser> mrXX from that scan list,  read the results please
[13:39] <sybariten> Dr_Willis: about my question 1hr ago.... it _is_ working good, its just that i was hoping to use a certain irc client (weechat) ... but the supported version of that one is not in the LTS
[13:39] <grawity> Panda^^: gtkpod maybe?
[13:39] <ardchoille> Panda^^: I use rythmbox for that
[13:40] <Younder> ardchoille, a python program
[13:40] <ardchoille> Younder: ?
[13:40] <Panda^^> Hm I cant find a synchronise option in rytmbox
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> sybariten:  i compile the latest weechat here. :) when in doubt use source.
[13:40] <pepijn_> nobody can help me with the search line bug in grub2?
[13:40] <mrXX> n8tuser it has Address, channel, frequency, quality, encryption, essid, bit rates, mode, extra, extra, IE   --which is the AP
[13:40] <n8tuser> slnr -> you may have to re-install, save your current /home/  and can be used for the new install, asuming its in a diff partition
[13:40] <Younder> ardchoille, well it is, it uses pygdt
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> sybariten:  the one in 9.10 is not the 'latest' version either. it mizzed the freeze deadline by like 2 days
[13:41] <n8tuser> mrXX AP is identified via ssid,
[13:41] <ardchoille> Younder: I'm confused as to what you're talking about
[13:41] <n8tuser> mrXX  kindly  man iwlist   for more details
[13:42] <Panda^^> ardchoille, do you know how to synchronise my music in rhythmbox?
[13:42] <Younder> ardchoille, pythom is a eveloemnt language (script) and rythmbox is developed in it
[13:42] <mrXX> n8tuser i think i have no AP - iwlist ap gives the following : eth0      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[13:42] <Younder> ardchoille, there isno mystery
[13:42] <ardchoille> Younder: I am aware of that
[13:42] <mrXX> so n8tuser does that mean i m not allowed to renew my ip
[13:42] <n8tuser> mrXX you are typing the wrong command..
[13:42] <Enissay> Tanks llutz grawity, it works, but can u explain it?
[13:42] <Enissay> please :)
[13:43] <Younder> ardchoille, I am a python developer..
[13:43] <grawity> Enissay: Which one - 'for' or 'find'?
[13:43] <llutz> Enissay: should be clear, find searches for directories and gives what it finds to zip
[13:43] <llutz> Enissay: man find, man zip
[13:43] <abhishek_> hi
[13:43] <n8tuser> mrXX   did you try to man iwlist?   next man iwconfig
[13:43] <Enissay> okay then
[13:43] <abhishek_> is anyone there?
[13:43] <Enissay> thanks again :)
[13:44] <mrXX> n8tuser ok, thanks brother for your help
[13:44] <grawity> Enissay: And "help for"
[13:44] <bradpitt> hi.. does anybody have any idea why sometimes i see grub screen and sometimes i don't, it's just go directly to usplash screen.
[13:44] <DrRobinTosh> how do i open /var/log/shorewall-init.log
[13:44] <Igramul> Hi, I have a MS Natural 4000 USB keyboard. It works in the boot manager (grub) but does not work in the login screen.
[13:45] <n8tuser> mrXX i know it is slow help, you will get the hang of it, we will explain the details once you figure out the basic command via man
[13:45] <mrXX> n8tuser yes dude, i m reading it and it makes sense
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> a man page that makes sence?  Quick! i must file a bug report against it!
[13:46] <n8tuser> lol
[13:46] <mrXX> n8tuser but my only problem is i even dont know the basics of networking, that is why i have hard time understanding
[13:46] <Younder> sounds wery hiiy
[13:46] <Younder> hippy
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> I just love man pages that are   just 'command --help > manpage.1' output....
[13:46] <DrRobinTosh> anyone got a mac and has used a magic mouse?
[13:46] <n8tuser> mrXX ahh. okay, thats why i made the comments earlier..about tidbits of info..
[13:47] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: how to open /var/log/shorewall-init.log
[13:47] <n8tuser> mrXX anyways,  AP is identified via its ssid,  so you tell your driver to use the ssid of the AP you are allowed to use
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  its a text file. Use any editor , or the less, or more command to view its contents
[13:48] <DrRobinTosh> gah, what command?
[13:48] <Younder> n8tuser, that system ID thingie?
[13:48] <n8tuser> mrXX likes so..  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid XXXXXX ;  dhclient wlan0
[13:48] <mrXX> n8tuser is it possible to see my router add, cause at home i saw the company and typed in the required addreass - is it legal to see my company's router add?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  text editor that you like, or 'more' or 'less' or time to learn some bash basics...
[13:48] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:49] <n8tuser> mrXX only can see it once you are associated and given an ip address that are routable
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  you might want to install and use the command 'mc' its very handy
[13:49] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, what site would you recconmend?
[13:49] <Younder> n8tuser, so root on you machine doesn't automatically mean root anywhere.
[13:49] <mrXX> n8tuser i think i am given an ip-address cause our wireless network is public - correct me if wrong
[13:49] <n8tuser> Younder come again? did i mention anything about that?
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  delicious.com and look under the 'bash' tags  or google.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> !shell | DrRobinTosh
[13:50] <ardchoille> DrRobinTosh: Here's a command line cheatsheet: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html
[13:50] <DrRobinTosh> mc pretty colors
[13:50] <souffledev> does someone know what mkfs.ext4dev is?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  theres dozens if not hunderds of bash tutorial/training sites
[13:50] <n8tuser> mrXX who gave you an ip address? is it static address?  for you ethernet perhaps not for your wifi?
[13:50] <souffledev> LjL, thanks dude
[13:51] <Younder> n8tuser, No I did, so people understand why it is what it is.
[13:51] <mrXX> n8tuser we can connect automatically via the wireless or through the hard wire in the rooms
[13:51] <n8tuser> Younder -> oh okay, the way you phrased it got me confused
[13:51] <mrXX> n8tuser i wish i were a computer science major,
[13:51] <puppetmaster_> Hi
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Im glad im NOT a CS major :)
[13:52] <mrXX> DR_Willis why do you say so sir?
[13:52] <puppetmaster_> Multiple sounds doesn't work with pulseaudio on ubuntu 9.10. What should I do ?
[13:52] <mrXX> Dr_Willis ppl say that is where the jobs and money are
[13:52] <n8tuser> mrXX companies usually wanted you to have a static ip address if possible to know who is who.. so they may have given you an ip address to configure your host with
[13:53] <mrXX> n8tuser oh, i think i do have a static ip then, cause we are traced :-(
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> ok
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis:  No shorewall compiler installed
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> mrXX:  many CS majors whos jobs are getting out sourced to other countries would dissagree. :) but I went into Engineering.
[13:53] <n8tuser> mrXX  unless you speak Hindi or Pashtun or chinese.. but it is offtopic bout careers.. :P
[13:53] <DrRobinTosh> where do i get the compler from?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I knwo nothing about shorewall.   I imagine its one of the packages shown earlier with the apt-cache search shorewall   command.
[13:53] <kom14> aira
[13:53] <mrXX> so that means i cant renew my ip , n8tuser , cause they track us
[13:54] <n8tuser> mrXX  well that static ip address needs to be inserted into your config file
[13:54] <frickelton> Can you help with a problem in 9.04: during startup the default level is 2 and one of my /etc/init.d scripts fails to run "su - <user> -c <cmd>", but succeeds if I run it manually afterwards. Why is "su - <user> -c <cmd>" not available during startup in runlevel 2?
[13:54] <Igramul> Can anyone tell me how to get an MS Natural 4000 USB keyboard working? It appears in the kernel messages and works on the boot menu, however Ubuntu does not use it as keyboard.
[13:54] <Igramul> ... sometimes
[13:54] <n8tuser> mrXX if i was the sys admin or network admin at your workplace, am certainly wanting to track you.. hehehe
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  it some times works in X and some times not?
[13:55] <Jimi_Neutral> ok im new to ubuntu and i have just downloaded a theme to my home folder and it is a .tar.gz....how do i install it?
[13:55] <mrXX> n8tuser wow, but no bady came to set up my internet, however i have to login before accessing the internet
[13:55] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, right
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  thats odd. Try a different usb port. and when it fails try unplug/repluging it in
[13:56] <n8tuser> mrXX there are different ways to manage resources..anyways are you connected via ethernet at your work now
[13:56] <n8tuser> ?
[13:56] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, the odd thing is, that it always works in the boot manager. But I'll give Your advice a try.
[13:56] <mrXX> n8tuser ya, ethernet cable or wireless
[13:56] <Younder> Dr_Willis, I have yet to have device fail on one port and succed on another
[13:57] <n8tuser> mrXX  using windows?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Younder:  ive had usb ports go bad.
[13:57] <Younder> it is basically controoled by ONE chip
[13:57] <Igramul> Dr_Willis, me too, I guess. (This is being typed with the MS keyboard)
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Younder:  i also had where too many usb gizmos on the same mb caused issues.. but moving them to a pci usb expansion card helped.
[13:58] <mrXX> n8tuser of course not, never switched to windows since saw ubuntu
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> if you hang around long enough - you can see all sorts of weirdness. :)
[13:58] <mrXX> n8tuser but my internal mic doesnt work so i go to windows for skype :-(
[13:58] <Younder> Dr_Willis, I guess so
[13:58] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, drag the tar.gz to the theme manager
[13:59] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis: how do i use IPTabels then?
[13:59] <n8tuser> mrXX then remove the /var/lib/dhcp3/*.leases  so you can attempt to request a new ip addresss. but even that, sometimes the dhcp server will allocate you the same as what the last ip it doled out to you
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | DrRobinTosh
[13:59] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, easy access by clicking desktop (change background) then choose themes tab
[13:59] <DrRobinTosh> i just want to protect from (D)Dos
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  proper use of the 'ufw' command will propberly do all you need.
[13:59] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, it wont go, it keeps springing back
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  what are you tryuing to 'firewall' anyway?
[13:59] <n8tuser> mrXX anyhow, i have to leave, get some breakfast
[14:00] <DrRobinTosh> the computer from (D)Dos
[14:00] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, got a link to the theme? and what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:00] <mrXX> n8tuser appreciate your help brother
[14:00] <DrRobinTosh> anything other then HTTPd or SSH
[14:00] <Younder> Dr_Willis, still a software config problem seems more likely, to use a medical term 'when hearing hoofs in the wood, don't yell Zebra'
[14:00] <mrXX> n8tuser enjoy ur breakfast
[14:00] <pepijn_> guys, nobody has the GRUB2 problems where you have to delete the search line just to boot?
[14:00] <UdontKnow> DrRobinTosh: prevent DDoS? on the receiving end? you need to refresh the theory
[14:00] <pepijn_> i'm really a bit frustrated by this, it's breaking my gf's laptop on every grub & kernel update!!
[14:01] <DrRobinTosh> UdontKnow, how do i stop DDoS?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Igramul:  a inteesting test would be see if any live cd/disrtos also have the same problem.
[14:01] <sampo> hello there..:)
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  if you knew a full proof way to do that.. You would be a billionare. :)
[14:01] <UdontKnow> DrRobinTosh: call your ISP
[14:01] <sampo> is it possible to install apple software in ubuntu?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> oops fool proof.. :)
[14:01] <`Jack> hey. I'm looking for an application for Ubuntu to search & recover broken sectors from my hard disk. Like checkdisk on windows. Does anybody can help me ?
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> xD
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sampo:   depends on whaat software you mean. :)
[14:02] <sampo> iwork...
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> hahahaha
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> iWork
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> :P
[14:02] <sampo> what?
[14:02] <sampo> I got a copy of it...
[14:02] <DrRobinTosh> How can i get Magic Mouse to work with Ubuntu
[14:02] <sampo> + whant to have a look
[14:02] <`Jack> hey. I'm looking for an application for Ubuntu to search & recover broken sectors from my hard disk. Like checkdisk on windows. Does anybody can help me ?
[14:03] <storyhe> i set (gnome-power-manager) ac and battery mode -> closed latop cover -> screen off(turn off monitor?)
[14:03] <Younder> sampo, MAC has l freeBSD core, but uses a completly different windows system
[14:03] <storyhe>  but closed latop , black screen&panic , help me ( ..)
[14:03] <sampo> ahaa...
[14:03] <sampo> Jack: google may know that
[14:03] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, So, what if enter my computer in to the DMZ?
[14:04] <Younder> sampo, You can install a X server whch improves youodds
[14:04] <UdontKnow> Younder: a Darwin core, not a FreeBSD core
[14:04] <sampo> X server?how?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  why do you want to do that?  If you want to secure your pc..  then secure it.
[14:04] <ardchoille> !google | sampo
[14:04] <sampo> ok
[14:05] <Azurespace2> hm
[14:05] <Younder> sambo: http://www.google.no/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=MAC+install+X+server
[14:05] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: use google to find some info-sites for network-, linux-, security-basics
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis so i can install a IRC on it it.
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> IRCd*
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  and why do you want to do that?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  theres no need to put it on the DMZ for that
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> so i can link it to my network.
[14:05] <DrRobinTosh> POrt Forward?
 does anybody know where the ubuntu karmic armel repository is?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  I think you need to clarify your 'mission goals' and work up from the bottom.
[14:06] <DrRobinTosh> hmm...
[14:06] <mrXX> i deleted everthing from /var/lib/dhcp3/*  what effect does it have?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  most routers can port forward   these days.
[14:06] <DrRobinTosh> yep..
[14:07] <frickelton> Hi, in an /etc/init.d script of mine, the "su - <user> -c <cmd>" fails to run the command during startup. This used to work in 8.10, but now doesn't in 9.04. Any Ideas?
[14:07] <DrRobinTosh> how do i set ubuntu to have a static Internal IP?
[14:07] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: man 5 interfaces
[14:07] <mrXX> i deleted everthing from /var/lib/dhcp3/*  what effect does it have?
[14:07] <acemo> how can i create gpt disks during the installation of ubuntu-server 9.10?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  on the desktop verison the networkmanager tool can do that.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !static
[14:08] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, You can use the network manager to do that.
[14:08] <Younder> UdontKnow, actually though given a different name it is still freeBsd, and linux compatibale to a point, threads are differenty
[14:08] <frickelton> DrRobinTosh: try /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 add <ip>
[14:08] <mrXX> ls
[14:09] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, frickelton's solution won't be permanent and it adds an _additional_ IP to the interface.
[14:09] <DrRobinTosh> ah ok.
[14:09] <DrRobinTosh> so, what way should i use? (Im a noob i will need help :P)
[14:10] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, use the network manager. It should be somewhere in the upper right corner of the screen (a plug icon).
[14:10] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul, i have no GUI
[14:10] <capibolso> mm
[14:11] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: man 5 interfaces
[14:11] <capibolso> anyone uses evolution?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> a 'noob' really should start with the Desktop edition.,
[14:11] <mrXX> capibloso i do
[14:11] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, in that case "man interfaces" will tell You how to change /etc/network/interfaces to fulfill Your needs.
[14:11] <mrXX> capibloso but it is not so good, i cant connect to yahoo in it
[14:11] <DrRobinTosh> Dr_Willis, remove the quotes. hhah
[14:12] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul i see...
[14:12] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul what part in it do i change?
[14:12] <capibolso> ok when I receive an email with a list of email accounts at the CC with an ";" separator, evolution only shows the first email
[14:12] <frickelton> Hi, in an /etc/init.d script of mine, the "su - <user> -c <cmd>" fails to run the command during startup. This used to work in 8.10, but now doesn't in 9.04. Any Ideas?
[14:13] <capibolso> anyone knows how to fix that?
[14:13] <DrRobinTosh> iface?
[14:13] <mrXX> dunno know sorry
[14:13] <capibolso> ok no prob
[14:13] <Azurespace> Hello, I got a problem. On Gnome power management window, I set the suspend screen option when the laptop would be closed so that the power could be saved.
[14:13] <Igramul> DrRobinTosh, 'man interfaces' contains examples for static IPs. Change "auto" to "static" and add some lines for the static IP configuration.
[14:13] <mrXX> capibolso but i think it is possible from the sender side as well not to show the BCC info for privacy issues
[14:14] <DrRobinTosh> iface eth0-home inet static?
[14:14] <mrXX> capibolso try sending a test email yourself and see
[14:14] <Enissay> grawity, if I want to use rar instead of zip, it doesnt work   find -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec rar -r {}.rar {} \;
[14:14] <grawity> Enissay: Doesn't work how exactly? We're not mind readers.
[14:14] <Azurespace> But what actually happens is for the screen to turn black and not to become back.
[14:14] <bradpitt> hi.. how can i install kubuntu-restricted-extras without installing Sun Java because i already have openjdk? thanks.
[14:15] <DrRobinTosh> iface eth0-home inet static
[14:15] <Enissay> grawity, it displays rar's help, i guess the syntax is wrong
[14:15] <Azurespace> and my system is a laptop
[14:15] <capibolso> yes, the problem is that I can't get window$ users to put a "," instead of ";" hehe
[14:15] <grawity> Enissay: "rar" is a completely different program, and yes, it uses a different syntax.
[14:16] <llutz> Enissay: read that help and change the options
[14:17] <DrRobinTosh> Igramul, how to change /etc/network/interfaces
[14:17] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: you had been told to read "man 5 interfaces"
[14:18] <DrRobinTosh> llutz: i have
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  its a text file. Use a text editor.
[14:19] <DrRobinTosh> sudo nano?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> DrRobinTosh:  A+
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> if you like nano :)
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> yus
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> yea its fine
[14:20] <DrRobinTosh> works for me
[14:21]  * Dr_Willis wont start a flame war by saying  anything about 'real men use vi' :P
[14:21] <DrRobinTosh> correction ' real men geeks'
[14:21] <DrRobinTosh> lol
[14:22] <llutz> last real man died 06.11.79 :(
[14:22] <Enissay> grawity, llutz :) thanks guys and sorry for my stupid questions.... it works now :)
[14:22] <Huck> hello guys
[14:22] <mrxxx> once i close my wireless from keyboard button, i cant get it back again, can i open wireless from terminal as well?
[14:23] <mrxxx> /msg nickserv identify coldsoul
[14:23] <ardchoille> mrXX: you need to change you password now
[14:23] <DJones> mrxxx: Time to change your password
[14:23] <ardchoille> mrXX: that was for anothe ruser, sorry about that
[14:23] <mrxxx> DJones how?
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> lol
[14:24] <Dr_Willis>  /msg nickserv help
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> Mrxx
[14:24] <blackxored> there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> yor pass is  coldsoul
[14:24] <DrRobinTosh> :S:S:S
[14:24] <Huck> after the update at the 9.10 version i updated grub for refresh my menu.lst and now all work...but i have installed windows xp too and now there isnt windows in menu.lst how can i update grub for see again windows? sorry for bad english ty for help
[14:25] <rob_p_> mrxxx: You just broadcast your current password to hundreds of users...  You definitely need to change it now.
[14:25] <trijntje> what is wrong with launchpad lately? I keep getting "unsecure items on this page" errors from firefox and its driving me crazy
[14:25] <DJones> mrxxx: If you're identified to nickserv using the existing password, then type /msg nickserv set password $newpass. (Thats what it says on freenodes website)
[14:26] <blackxored> anyone??
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | huck
[14:26] <Younder> Huck, It should do that automatically. looked at the very bottom?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> blackxored: man time    will fill you in
[14:26] <vkd> hi need some help with an update that broke  my nw access completely
[14:26] <blackxored> ActionParsnip, time isn't for time, its for benchmarking lol
[14:27] <Huck> yep i looked but there isnt....only ubuntu kernel
[14:27] <Huck> !grub2
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> blackxored: sounded like you wanted to set or display te time
[14:27] <blackxored> so I'll re-ask: there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:27] <Younder> Huck, OK, I had to ask
[14:28] <Younder> Huck, next is editing the grub config file
[14:28] <blackxored> ActionParsnip, but the command is date, and doesn't convert, something like date -R -u -d "2009-11-26 17:00" won't do any conversion at all
[14:28] <erUSUL> blackxored: use date
[14:28] <blackxored> erUSUL, read ^^^^^^^^
[14:28] <Huck> Younder ok how can i do it?ty for help
[14:28] <mrXXx> i need help with my password now
[14:28] <Younder> Huck, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/68350-add-windows-grub.html
[14:28] <mrXXx> can someone pm me plz
[14:29] <vkd> i'm on xubuntu 9.04, and a recent update broke networking completely.
[14:29] <mrXXx> i cant get into chat with my prevous nick
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Grub2's 'update-grub' command should see/add existing windoes installs.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: password in what way. If you forget your password, boot to root recovery mode and run: passwd usualy_user_name
[14:29] <bazhang> mrXXx, please ask in #freenode
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: then join #freenode
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> mrXXx:  someone may of taken it over allready.  or changed the password
[14:29] <bazhang> mrXXx, if you are referring to irc chat nickname/password
[14:29] <mrXXx> freenode is overflow
[14:29] <blackxored> erUSUL, ActionParsnip: date -R -u -d "2009-11-26 17:00"
[14:29] <blackxored> Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:00:00 +0000
[14:30] <mrXXx> mrxxx/pass
[14:30] <nomasteryoda> mrXXx, but we don't know your password
[14:30] <nomasteryoda> just had to add some humor to the situation
[14:30] <mrXXx> if i try to enter the chat with my real nick, then it says that it is in use
[14:30] <blackxored> please pv me I'll go out for a smoke
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !password
[14:31] <mrXXx> and the #freenode is overflow
[14:31] <ironfoot495> Hello Is there anyone who knows how to get 9.10 server to see the intranet? I have googled and still can't seem to find the answer?
[14:31] <mrXXx> !password
[14:31] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, he means his irc client /freenode password
[14:31] <DrRobinTosh> eek
[14:31] <ardchoille> !away > imlad
[14:31] <DrRobinTosh> broke something
[14:32] <mrXXx> what is the command to change my pass?
[14:32] <mrXXx>  / msg nickserv oldpass newpass?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> mrXXx, quit irc and reboot , you may be stuck in the nonpart loop
[14:32] <erUSUL> mrXXx: System>Preferences>About Me
[14:32] <DrRobinTosh> mrXXx, ask #freenode.
[14:32] <bazhang>    /msg nickserv set password $newpass  mrXXx
[14:32] <ardchoille> mrXX: I gave you that command twice in pm
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  what part of the intranet is it not seeing?
[14:33] <kekale> ironfoot495, probably not because no one might know what you refer to by "see the intranet". Intranet as in a site in the internal network or something else/what?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> just let him reboot , he's prolly joined twice by mistake
[14:33] <Huck> how can i know what is it the root windows? root		(hd0,0)
[14:33] <Huck> windows is in /dev/sda3
[14:33] <ironfoot495> DR_Willis:I don't see the intranet !
[14:33] <n8ature> ironfoot495: do you mean internet?
[14:33] <ironfoot495> yes
[14:34] <Younder> Huck, in a terminal do a sudo su
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:    your terms are vague. can you PING the other machines via ip?
[14:34] <ardchoille> Younder: it's better to advise sudo -i, not sudo su
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  You mean intER net not intra-net ? :)
[14:34] <ironfoot495> no I mean the machines in the building
[14:34] <kekale> ironfoot495, so network shares, right?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495: can you ping them by their ip# ?
[14:35] <mrXXx> Yeah i canged my password!!! now nobady knows it!!!
[14:35] <Younder> ardchoille, thx, never seen that one
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: yeah was kinda hoping the factoid would be freenode pass
[14:35] <kekale> ardchoille, what's the difference between the two?
[14:35] <charles_> newish, stuck can barely see display, it is broken into 3 columns, can someone please help
[14:35] <ardchoille> !usod
[14:35] <ardchoille> !sudo
[14:35] <ironfoot495> on the Desktop I do see the intranet but on my Server I don't seem to have that capabillity?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: the admins in #freenode wil lsend you an email so you can reset it
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> mrXXx: thats why we are telling you to go there
[14:36] <Huck> younder http://paste.ubuntu.com/328509/
[14:36] <ironfoot495> So I'm asking if anyone knows how to get it to work?
[14:36] <ardchoille> kekale: sudo -i gives you roots environment configuration
[14:36] <mrXXx> ActionParsnip ok,
[14:36] <Huck> u can see the code...in ROOT: what i must put ?
[14:37] <Younder> Huck, are you in fact running Windows 95?
[14:37] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  so assuming you mean internet, then you need to hook it up to your router which has access to the internet.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: according to the root docs, sudo -i isnt advised and sudo -s is
[14:37] <Huck> nope its an example
[14:37] <Huck> of that page u link me
[14:37] <Huck> i have windows xp
[14:37] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Ok, then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo needs to be edited
[14:37] <mrXXx> does anybody here have idea on Pommo?
[14:37] <Huck> and i want add in menu.lst of grub
[14:37] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  it is going to work the same way as your desktop.  just make sure the network settings are the same as your desktop.
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, yes, so you need to give a text denoting the version you are actually using.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: no it doesnt as it says it there
[14:38] <Huck> ok how?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: scroll aout 80% down to: None of the methods below are suggested or supported by the designers of Ubuntu
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, edit the text
[14:38] <vashitn> where can i find more info on the notebook version and will it work on 15" screen
[14:38] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: see my pm please
[14:38] <Younder> Huck, also the hard drive is wrong
[14:39] <mrXX> how can i enable wireless from terminal??
[14:39] <ironfoot495> n8ature: I appreciate your input  I have internet  because I'm communicating with you right, for some reson the server is not setup the same way that's the problem.
[14:39] <vashitn> !notebook
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: so no it is fine just how it is
[14:39] <sebsebseb> hi
[14:39] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  is your desktop running ubuntu?
[14:40] <charles_> hi @sebsebseb
[14:40] <Huck> yep but i donno what is it the ROOT correct, in the example tell (hd0,0) but windows is installed in /dev/sda3...dont care?
[14:40] <Younder> Huck, are you faminiar with, emacs, VIM, vi? or other editor
[14:40] <sebsebseb> charles_: hi
[14:40] <charles_> I am looking for help with a new install @sebsebseb
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  in grub1 talk sda3 = hd0,2
[14:41] <Huck> ok dr.willis ty so much!
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  in grub2 it would be  hd0,3 I think.
[14:41] <sebsebseb> charles_: Uhmm ok, and by the way have I helped you before in the past?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Huck:  you can aleays edit the grub boot lines from the menu at boot and change them
[14:41] <mrXX> in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:41] <blackxored> so I'll re-ask: there's a linux command equivalent to this utc to local time ruby conversion: ruby -e "puts Time.utc(2009,11,26,17,00).getlocal"?????
[14:41] <charles_> Not with this handel
[14:42] <jim__> just wanted to give everyone a quick laugh.  i just installed 9.10 and didn't have any sound.  spent about fifteen minutes looking around to find out why.  then just realized i had no speakers plugged in.  one of those days i guess.
[14:42] <sebsebseb> charles_: I don't remember a charles_ from in here
[14:42] <Huck> Dr_Willis: well i must add this code in menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/328516/
[14:42] <Younder> Dr_Willis: I never saw an item to ADD declarations though
[14:42] <mrXX>  in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:42] <blackxored> anyone can solve that, isn't that hard, is it?
[14:42] <charles_> My display has wrong sync but I don't see anywhere to adjust or detect the correct settings
[14:43] <grawity> blackxored: date -d "2009-11-26 17:00 UTC"
[14:43] <sebsebseb> jim__: simple enough mistake usually, so I won't laugh at you for it :)
[14:43] <grawity> blackxored: Assuming you have $TZ set to the corret time zone.
[14:43] <ironfoot495> n8ature: That's the problem they are not Desktop -> 2.6.31-15-generic ; Server 2.6.31-15-generic-pae
[14:43] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  I am assuming you have your desktop and server connected to your router..  if you desktop is working and connected to the internet, make sure the network settings of your server are set up the same way.  check this file: /etc/network/interfaces.  Your desktop probably has just a few links with "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback".  change that file on your server to the same thing and it should be able to get to the internet
[14:43] <charles_> thanks
[14:43] <mrXX>  in my acer, if i once disable my wireless, then i cant enable it without restart - plz help
[14:43] <charles_> o sorry
[14:43] <Younder> charles_, what driver do you use?
[14:43] <blackxored> grawity, that's what I asked for! thanks, wasn't that hard at all, just was missing the UTC suffix :p thanks a lot
[14:43] <charles_> no idea
[14:44] <jim__> well i figured you have to be able to laugh at yourself or you'll go nuts.
[14:44] <charles_> I picked ps out of dumpster
[14:44] <charles_> It is a dell latitude
[14:44] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  i said, "a few links", but i meant to say, "a few lines".. lol
[14:44] <grayd> Does anybody knows how to change weird MiBs tj normal Mb (2^10, not 10^3)?
[14:44] <sebsebseb> charles_: So I helped you before with another name, which was?  Also  you wanted hep with an install?  Of Ubuntu?
[14:44] <deadowl> how do I determine if my home folder encryption is working?
[14:44] <Younder> Blackxored: no they are not difficult, it is more a matter of being methodical and logical'
[14:44] <ironfoot495> n8ature: OK! I'll go take a look bb;
[14:45] <sebsebseb> jim__: yep that can be a good thing to laugh at oneself sometimes
[14:45] <blackxored> Younder, really? it's a matter of missing a suffix :P
[14:45] <charles_> Yes with xubuntu install.  Sorry @sebsebseb I don't really think you have helped me before.
[14:45] <Younder> Blackxored: lol, in your case
[14:46] <blackxored> Younder, really, if I'm lol I don't know what's up to people, then :P no need for that
[14:46] <sebsebseb> charles_: Probably not then, but have helped many, so can't remember everyone
[14:46] <MFox> hey guys
[14:46] <charles_> @sebsebseb.   After 3 days of fooling around I just took a stab in the dark looking for help
[14:46] <sebsebseb> charles_: Ok so what's the problem regarding the Xubuntu install?
[14:46] <MFox> i have Ubuntu 9.04 januaty
[14:46] <sebsebseb> MFox: ok
[14:46] <MFox> wanna upgrade to 9.10 with CD
[14:46] <charles_> The display comes up in 3 columns
[14:46] <sebsebseb> MFox: hmm  I would suggest staying with 9.04 for now
[14:46] <MFox> but the upgrade progress doesnt start
[14:47] <Younder> Blackxored: you are WAY to sensitive. That was not an insult. It was just advice.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> MFox: ok then you need the alternate CD
[14:47] <sebsebseb> MFox: Also many people that upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, then ended up with issues.
[14:47] <MFox> i've mount the cd image as a drive,
[14:47] <MFox> sebsebseb: ok
[14:47] <peterSK1> sebsebseb: karmic works fine for me :D
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> MFox: you can then mount the ISO and run:gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[14:48] <blackxored> Younder, no I didn't take that hard enough to make me mad :P
[14:48] <sebsebseb> !worksforme | peterSK1
[14:48] <MFox> also i've tried the sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade in terminal
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> MFox: assuming you mounted the ISO to /media/cdrom0
[14:48] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, hi, i went ahead and stuck with 9.10
[14:48] <MFox> but it says can not open the cdromupgrade
[14:48] <sebsebseb> MFox: have a look at the factoid above from the bot :)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> MFox: does the file exist. You can check with: file /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[14:49] <blume> hello, I recently upgraded to karmic and some erratic ubuntu-ignores-configuration behavior in touchpad/keyboard/etc is frustrating me. Can you help me make sense of it?
[14:49] <MFox> ActionParsnip: nope, it doesnt exist !
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> MFox: are you mounting the alternate ISO? You cannot CD upgrade with the desktop ISO
[14:49] <sebsebseb> MFox: Also instead of just upgrading to 9.10,  or well trying to, maybe you should check out the release notes, so you have an idea about some of the issues.  Also in certain ways 9.10 is a kind of downgrade really, for example how the log in screen can't be themed like the old one.
[14:50] <sebsebseb> MFox: Altough there's a way to get the old one working
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its on the screen for seconds, why is that so hugely detremental
[14:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: depends on the user
[14:50] <Younder> sebsebseb, also the ubuntu logi is all white again
[14:50] <Younder> logo
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> i guess
[14:51] <MFox> ah
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> MFox: is it the alternate ISO you are using??
[14:51] <MFox> i love the 9.04 login screen
[14:51] <charles_> sebsebseb: Seems like you are very knowledgeable and in demand,  is there some venue I should be using instead of this one to get help with the video install issue?
[14:51] <MFox> ActionParsnip: i dont think so :-/
[14:51] <MFox> its the desktop cd image
[14:51] <sebsebseb> !notes |  MFox
[14:51] <Younder> not a whole lot of fans of Karmic here I guess
[14:52] <sebsebseb> Younder: that's not true,  most of the people in here will like it
[14:52] <sebsebseb> Younder: or probably anyway
[14:52] <Guest38123> charles_: Just saw some of your comments.  Wonder if I may be having same problem as you....
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> MFox: it wont work then the upgrade notes clearly state its the alternate ISO you need, they even boldify it for emphasis
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Younder: its all the same to me
[14:52] <erUSUL> Younder: well i'm not fan just becouse jaunty worked equally well ;)
[14:52] <charles_> Wow Guest38...:
[14:52] <sebsebseb> MFox: If you do a clean install, you get Ext4 and Grub 2 without an issue, or well probably
[14:52] <Snausages> Younder: yeah I haven't really noticed much difference between 9.04 and 9.1
[14:52] <MFox> ActionParsnip: yes! thats my fault... i guessed its the same!
[14:52] <sebsebseb> MFox: no Ext4 or  Grub 2 by default for Ext3 9.04 installs
[14:53] <MFox> cuz there isnt any link for download
[14:53] <Snausages> different artwork, different version of firefox...
[14:53] <thiebaude> Younder, i have no problems at all with 9.10
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> MFox: well you know what you gotta do now to get the gold :D
[14:53] <Younder> sebsebseb, well support makes you kinda kritical. And there are a whole lot of bugs in Karmic
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Snausages: the new artwork is sucky
[14:53] <charles_> Guest38..: do you have any thoughts on which file to mess around with?
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Younder: indeed at that, quite a lot of bugs in Karmic, and ones where people have ended up with issues as a result
[14:53] <Younder> sebsebseb, keeps us busy..
[14:53] <Snausages> sebsebseb: I might not go that far, but I have to say I miss some of what I saw in 9.04.  I dunno, I only used it 10 days before I upgraded to karmic
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Younder: also  things that worked in Jauntey, no longer work in Karmic, and that kind of thing
[14:53] <Guest38123> charles_: no
[14:54] <Snausages> sebsebseb: and I'd never used any ubuntu before that
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: What kind of stuff are you missing?
[14:54] <Guest38123> charles_: maybe...
[14:54] <blip-> ~grub
[14:54] <blip-> !grub
[14:54] <Snausages> sebsebseb: literally just the look of the artwork on the login screen for jaunty.
[14:54] <blip-> !grub2
[14:54] <charles_> Gu: ok
[14:54] <Arabus> blub
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: ah yes that
[14:54] <Guest88775> is there any way to repartition existing partition?
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Snausages: well there is a way to use the old screen instead
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: you can resize using gparted in liveCD desktop
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Snausages: I tried, but  something went a bit wrong
[14:55] <Snausages> sebsebseb: I guess I'm disappointed though...  the only reason I upgraded to 9.1 was because I heard it was possible to get some kind of color management...  still haven't gotten it to work though.
[14:55] <charles_> dog biscuits?
[14:55] <afeijo> when I install phpmyadmin thru apt-get, it downloads the old version 2. How can I install the version 3? Or I have to do it manually?
[14:55] <Guest38123> charles_: Let me repeat my issue first, and let you tell me if we have the same issue.
[14:55] <ironfoot4951> n8ature: here is the Desktop /etc/network/interfaces
[14:55] <Guest38123> Fresh install of Karmic seems to screw up the framebuffer somehow.  Notify-OSD and System Monitor are bonkers.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[14:55] <charles_> Cool
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: make sure your backups are sufficiently recent incase of catastophe
[14:56] <Guest38123> charles_: So it's the same issue?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: i suggest you try and find a PPA with ver 3 on
[14:56] <sebsebseb> MFox:  If you want to upgrade to Karmic  of course that's up to you, but  if  you read what some of us are saying here  regarding it, you might want to think twice.   Also so your less likely to get issues, you should clean install 9.10 really.
[14:56] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using Slax instead
[14:56] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: ppa?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: http://ppa-search.appspot.com/   may give some help
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> 1ppa | afeijo
[14:56] <afeijo> ok
[14:56] <Younder> sebsebseb,like right out of the box rythmbox and totem didn't work
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: ok dude! thanx
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: i've changed my mind :D
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> CRAP
[14:57] <victor__> hola a todos
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> i just stuffed it
[14:57] <MFox> sebsebseb: 9.04 looks fine :P
[14:57] <Younder> sebsebseb, truns out my multiple python versions made it instal pygtk in the wrong place
[14:57] <charles_> Gu..381123:  You are way above my head.   I don't know anything about the frame buffers,   I installed 9.04 not KK
[14:57] <DrRobinTosh> theres nothing in /interfaces
[14:57] <victor__> hay alguien español
[14:58] <sebsebseb> MFox:  Snausages  Younder  Do you all understand about the release, as in what LTS is and what non LTS is, and  how long each get supported for?
i hav 160 gb hard disk and i installed ubuntu taking whole disk as a single partition ..now can i devide into 3 partitions?
[14:58] <afeijo> !es | victor__
[14:58] <ardchoille> !es | victor__
[14:58] <n8ature> ironfoot4951:  dont paste here use something like this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:58] <ironfoot495> n8ature: here is the Server's /etc/network/interfaces ->http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[14:58] <Snausages> Younder: I dunno man...  everything worked in 9.04, and then I did an upgrade to 9.1 and...  everything worked!  Except color management anyway, but that seems like an uphill battle in linux anyway.
[14:58] <Guest38123> charles_: Ok.  Thought you'd said Karmic.  I'm on a Latitude BTW.
[14:58] <sebsebseb> MFox: well 10.04 should be a good one to get, since it's the next LTS
[14:58] <Younder> sebsebseb, not really, enighten me
[14:58] <ardchoille> !lts
[14:58] <DrRobinTosh> ironfoot495, I LOVE YOU
[14:58] <MFox> sebsebseb: yea sounds like that
[14:58] <DrRobinTosh> THANK YOU FOR THAT FILE!
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !love |  DrRobinTosh
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> lul
[14:59] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using Slax instead
[14:59] <MFox> sebsebseb: when it will released? :-/
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> I R TEH SPEICAL NAO, I CAN SPEEK TEH LOLCAT
[14:59] <charles_> Guest38123: O well back to forums which don't make my head spin, Thanks
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !10.04 | MFox
[14:59] <sebsebseb> !caps |  DrRobinTosh
[14:59] <n8ature> ironfoot495: good, so it looks like your server is setup to use DCHP as well, next step is to see if you can ping things near you.  Do you know the IP of your router?  Probably something like 192.168.0.100
[14:59] <ironfoot4951> n8ature: sorry -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328534/
[14:59] <DrRobinTosh> !cantlolcatincaps
[14:59] <MFox> tnx!
[15:00] <Snausages> that bot gets so annoying
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> !part
[15:00] <Guest38123> charles_: good luck
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> ubottu, Quit
[15:00] <shutarg> Good day. I got o problem. I have no sound when i run applications normally. But when i run under SUDO it sounds.
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> lulz
[15:00] <bazhang> DrRobinTosh, please stop that
[15:00] <shutarg> Does anyone can help me?
[15:00] <sebsebseb> Younder: ok well basically  the versions that aern't LTS are kind of test releases in a way, well they aren't really  business quality standard,  and they also only get 18 months of support,  the Long Term Support releases get supported for longer, and are the kind of business release.
[15:00] <thiebaude> !abuse
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !separatehome
[15:00] <bazhang> DrRobinTosh, /msg ubottu
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: ^
[15:00] <DrRobinTosh> bazhang, sure
[15:00] <n8ature> ironfoot4951:  was the paste your desktop system that is working?
[15:01] <shutarg> Good day. I got o problem. I have no sound when i run applications normally. But when i run under SUDO it sounds. ************
[15:01] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  the first paste was your desktop right?  the second your server?
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Younder: and it's fine to use whatever version of Ubuntu you want, as long as it's still supported by security updates
[15:01] <kleftisx> hello i have just installed Ati Catalyst Display driver, and when i restart the pc i just only see the sign of ubuntu and then black screen. now im currently from live cd. is there any possible way to uninstall ati driver?
[15:01] <jorge-curioso> yo all
[15:01] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:02] <ironfoot495> DrRobinTosh: whoo! I'd like to know who you are before I make that kind of statement? (smile)!!!
[15:02] <DrRobinTosh> haha
[15:02] <Younder> sebsebseb, I kinda guessed as much
[15:02] <sebsebseb> MFox: 10.04 is a good one for you to clean install,  won't have to upgrade through 9.10 first that way, and you will get Ext4 and Grub 2
[15:02] <jorge-curioso> can anyone help me with configuring grub2
[15:02] <ironfoot495> n8ature: probably let me try it bb;
[15:03] <DrRobinTosh> anyone know how to asigin a static ip of 10.1.1.69? http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[15:03] <DrRobinTosh> 10.1.1.69*
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Younder: however it seems,  that most Ubuntu users,  think that the latest release is going to be the best one, but that is not always the case depending on the user, and their hardware
[15:03] <Younder> sebsebseb, I still think it is a mistake to auto-update to a non-stable version
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Younder: The non LTS versions are stable as well
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Younder: it's just they aren't likely to be as stable as a LTS version
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> just a idea
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> the next release
[15:04] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  after you update that file on your server to be the same as your desktop, you can restart the networking on your server with this command:  "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> what if you were to foucs more on the GUI?
[15:04] <Guest38123> How do I launch sytem monitor?
[15:04] <DrRobinTosh> id work on some gfx for it
 is it possible to recover data if the partition got formatted?(ext3)
[15:05] <Younder> sebsebseb, still changing to chrome and real player fixed most of the problems
[15:05] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:05] <sebsebseb> !testdisk |  Guest88775
[15:05] <sebsebseb> !info testdisk
[15:06] <DrRobinTosh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328536/
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: real player hmm
[15:06] <guest_40848> got a zte modem and ubuntu 9.10 auto disconnect it ... can connect during that period
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: did you try mplayer?
[15:06] <DrRobinTosh> brb
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: try Testdisk
[15:06] <Younder> sebsebseb, there is a open software equivalent
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Younder: mplayer is open source
[15:06] <thiebaude> !vlc
[15:06] <guest_40848> hello?
[15:07] <Younder> sebsebseb, right, apart fromthe name, they are basically  the same
[15:07] <_5moufl> hi again, anyone knows how i can change the luminosity of my laptop screen, ican't do it anymore with my keyboard since karmic :/
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Younder: as for releases I think they should be more clear on the website,  when it comes to non LTS versions and LTS and  what that means exactly.  As well as still provide the download for 9.04 in the actsaul downloads sections.
[15:08] <ironfoot495> n8ature: yes I can ping my desktop I forgot the nmap cmd is it nmap -sP 192.168.0.100/16?
[15:08] <Guest88775> i have 160 gb ext3 partition is it possible to shrink or unalloacte part of it(say 60gb) and format it to ext4?
[15:08] <kleftisx> hello i have just installed Ati Catalyst Display driver, and when i restart the pc i just only see the sign of ubuntu and then black screen. now im currently from live cd. is there any possible way to uninstall ati driver?
[15:08] <ironfoot495> n8ature: yes that's it and I tried it all and it does work?
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: there is a way to convert to Ext3 to Ext4, but for the proper thing you need to create a new Ext4 partition really
[15:08] <Ranakah> kleftisx drop to root terminal and then
[15:08] <Ranakah> aticonfig --initial -f
[15:09] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of trying to do a network install, using a Ubuntu PC to provide the files needed to the computer having linux installed on it, but I'd like to know what I'd need to change from the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu, if I'm using a Slax LiveCD instead of Ubuntu
[15:09] <guest_40848> got a zte modem and ubuntu 9.10 auto disconnect it ... can connect during that period
[15:09] <ironfoot495> n8ature yes the first one is my Desktop!
[15:09] <n8ature> ironfoot495:  are you saying you got it to work?
[15:09] <guest_40848> its a vireless one
[15:09] <sebsebseb> guest_40848: I was going to ask if it was
[15:09] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  guest_40848
[15:09] <kleftisx> Ranakah : but im currently in live cd that works?
[15:10] <Ranakah> kleftisx no
[15:10] <pietro_> sera
[15:10] <guest_40848> any more of it?
[15:10] <Ranakah> on boot click ESC and chose Recovery mode
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: sure, you can use foremost, easier to restore from backups though
[15:10] <Ranakah> and when u see the menu, chose Drop to root shell
[15:10] <Ranakah> and do this
[15:10] <Guest88775> sebsebseb> so how do i convert ext3 to ext4?
[15:10] <_5moufl> hi again, anyone knows how i can change the luminosity of my laptop screen, ican't do it anymore with my keyboard since karmic :/
[15:10] <n8ature> ironfoot495: can you ping google.com from your server?  if not, can you ping a google ip from your server like:  74.125.53.100
[15:10] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: Why do you want Ext4?
[15:10] <kleftisx> Ranakah : ok thanks a lot
[15:10] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: What kind of partition is it?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !ext4
[15:11] <Ranakah> kleftisx no problem
 just to experiment..
[15:11] <ironfoot495> ok!

[15:11] <Guest88775> ext3
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto    with a converted file system you dont get all the benefits of ext4
[15:11] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: Ext4 for / in 9.04  meant speed improvements :)
[15:12] <sebsebseb> Guest88775: I did a test though 9.10 with Ext3 and I been running 9.10 with Ext4 for a while now,  anyway  it doesn't seem to matter anymore, if / is  in Ext3 or Ext4.  and  for a data partition Ext3 is fine, unless you got some really huge file or something
[15:12] <pietro_> lis
[15:12] <StarLionIsaac> I'm thinking of doing a network install, using the guide for installing Ubuntu via PXE, using a Ubuntu PC as the provider, but I want to install Slax, not Ubuntu - what do I need to do differently from the Ubuntu guide?
[15:12] <eaglestar> hi was wondering if there is any reason to upgrade to 9.10
[15:13] <eaglestar> i run 9.04
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !pxe
[15:13] <HilBilly> I am trying to use midnight commander in a gnome terminal window. problem is that the function keys work on the terminal window and are not passed to midnight commander.  How can I fix this?
[15:13] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, fedora has good pxe support, have you considered them?  Dunno about slax
[15:13] <the_madman> So I've messed up my drivers.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> HilBilly: i'd imagine it is
[15:14] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Fedora isn't what I'm after though, it's Slax. Based off Slackware, if that changes anything
[15:14] <the_madman> I removed nvidia-drivers and everything related, tried installing the nouvea (or something like that) driver, which didn't work.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> HilBilly: sorry, wrong target
[15:14] <HilBilly> ok, thanks.
[15:15] <sledgeas> hello
[15:15] <the_madman> Then I went back to the nVidia proprietary drivers, but now I've lost shader support for some reason.
 oh ok..since my full harddisk is / and no data partitions i thought of converting a part of hard disk into data partition..
[15:15] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, well, since the pxe has to get the installer going and each one is different, I think you need to look at the slax support for pxe
[15:15] <cow25salemba> hello all
[15:15] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've looked, the best I can find is a guide for installing Slackware, using a Slackware PC as the provider, which does things differently
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: have you removed old kernels?
[15:16] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: That's why I was trying to understand how to change the Ubuntu guide for Slax
[15:16] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, what are the limitations that you need to do the network install?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: that will save you 120Mb per kernel
[15:16] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: No CD, DVD or floppy drive, no USB ports, and only one ethernet port - the laptop's fairly old
[15:16] <Guest88775> yes..its a fresh installation
[15:17] <sebsebseb> !home |  Guest88775
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: i'd ask in #slax or #slackware

[15:17] <the_madman> Any suggestions?
[15:17] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, what is on there now?
[15:17] <kotslon> can anybody help me with vsftpd (with virtual users)?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:17] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Ubuntu Karmic, on the only partition other than swap
[15:18] <Younder> kotslon, you don't wanna go there
[15:18] <the_madman> ActionParsnip:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [Geforce Go 6600TE/6200TE] (rev a2)
[15:18] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: Slax doesn't have a channel that I could find, and Slackware said to either ask here because it's a Ubuntu provider, or in Slax, which I can't find
[15:18] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, how did you get Karmic on?
[15:18] <zortec> I am running from a live-cd now, so what should I do to fix the grub menu so I can boot into jaunty again?
its a fresh installation
[15:18] <Younder> kotslon, use ssh these days
[15:18] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I upgraded it from Jaunty, which in turn was from Intrepid, that was installed by LiveCD when the only USB port still worked
[15:18] <kotslon> Younder: i don't think i understood you )
[15:19] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've already tried to get the port working again, to no avail, it's a hardware issue, not software, and would cost me more than I have to get it fixed
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: ok run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     then reboot, then follow this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html    to install the 190 driver (alpha) or 185 driver (stable)
[15:19] <collectek> can I ask xubuntu questions here?
[15:19] <piper69> i am having issues from last night downloading ubunto 9 from ubuntu site
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest88775: i thought you said / was full
[15:19] <Younder> kotslon, there is a HUGE problem with FTP over the network
[15:19] <zortec> I deleted ubuntu out of the grub menu and need to fix it so I was told to boot into a live-cd and repair it... but more help would be appreciated
[15:19] <kotslon> Younder: why?
[15:20] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, Ah.   Well you have linux on there right now.   You could do something like write to the boot sectors of the hd and essentially destroy your current install but make it an installation device.   It would be a live or die event
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: #slackware has 288 users in
[15:20] <piper69> after so many times i was able to, now i can't burn the iso its erroring out at 26%
[15:20] <kotslon> Younder: i need ftp server. i used filezilla, but it's windows only :(
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> piper69: is it an ubuntu ISO?
[15:20] <Younder> kotslon: http://cliffhacks.blogspot.com/2007/11/asus-eeepc-first-impressions-and-gpl.html
[15:20] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: That's been suggested, but doesn't help in trying to put a new distro on there
[15:20] <zortec> piper69: try burning at the lowest speed if you are having disc errors
[15:20] <kostkon> !info filezilla | kotslon
[15:20] <Younder> kotslon: you do NOT need a FTP server
[15:21] <the_madman> ActionParsnip: It's weird that the drivers found by jockey worked before I started mucking with them, though...
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd
[15:21] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, you could remove the paging space and put an installation image in there
[15:21] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: I know there's users in Slackware - I was told when I asked there to ask here because I was trying to change the Ubuntu guide to install Slax instead of Ubuntu
[15:21] <collectek> zortec : http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/howto-fixing-grub-after-a-windows-installation-and-fixing-the-grub-menu/#comment-17727
[15:21] <guest_40848> any more of it?
[15:21] <piper69> zortec: its i/o error
[15:21] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: the swap partition you mean? But that gets mounted as soon as Karmic starts
[15:21] <kotslon> kostkon: it's client
[15:21] <DrRobinTosh> i want a Magic Mouse!
[15:21] <DrRobinTosh> i got one, but its not mine, its apples
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> the_madman: well if you follow the guide you can get drivered up, you just need to pull out all the current nvidia stuff so you have a clean slate
[15:21] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, but it does not have to
[15:21] <kostkon> kotslon, oh
[15:22] <the_madman> ActionParsnip: Cool. Will do.
[15:22] <kotslon> Younder, i think, i need :)
[15:22] <zortec> also this might just be my cd drive but when it's reading a disc, for example the live-cd it sounds like a 747 taking off... and I wonder if there is anything I can do to quiet it
[15:22] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Would 500mb be enough space though?
[15:22] <the_madman> Well, see you all later, then.
[15:22] <sledgeas> for ubuntu 9.10 (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, kernel-2.6.31-15-generic) system freezes completely (even unable to ssh). after it i have installed for my "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870" the latest driver from ati website (ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run created fglrx-*_8.671-0ubuntu1_i386.deb). but system freezes from time to time anyway (e.g. when one opens lots of tabs in a browser [firefox,chromium..]). i tried to upg
[15:22] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: And even if it is, I don't know how to stop it being mounted
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> piper69: if its an ubuntu CD, did you MD5 test the ISO?
[15:22] <mossati> how can extract zip file from terminal
[15:22] <xjkx> ﻿pendrive detection problem http://pastebin.ca/1688207
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> mossati: unzip file.zip
[15:22] <collectek> I have xubuntu issues with my xfce-panel
[15:22] <Younder> kotslon: yes you don. But it can all be done under SSH
[15:22] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, thats almost a whole cd.   Surely there are smaller install images for slax.
[15:22] <mossati> ActionParsnip> thanks :)
[15:22] <piper69> ActionParsnip: no i didn't how can i do that please
[15:23] <Younder> kotslon: withouth the riscs
[15:23] <collectek> things like network manager don't show
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | piper69
[15:23] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, you can edit fstab to stop it, and you can use fdisk to change the partition type
[15:23] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: There are, but I added modules that gave me the base system I'd use - Slax has KDE as default, and I made openbox and Gnome available, along with networking
[15:23] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: I've been in that file before... I don't really like doing anything in it, but if it's the only way
[15:23] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, but you could add all that after the initial install.
[15:23] <collectek> and now the exit button on the panel only allows me to exit the panel
[15:23] <Younder> kotslon: join the Kerberos comunity
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> piper69: you are trying to burn a file and you have no way of knowing its good which can cause all sorts of issues if its bad
[15:23] <zortec> does anyone know how to fix a loud cdrom drive? I wouldn't mind but I might need to wear earplugs if it keeps taking off like a jet
[15:23] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, this is not an ubuntu install? but rather slax?
[15:23] <collectek> which just ends my session
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: secure it in the case better
[15:24] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Not necessairly, where network is the only way to get things on, and KDE is painfully slow on there, I had to put at least networking on
[15:24] <Basso> Anyone else got problems with Compiz effects + flash = cant press any buttons on the flash player?
[15:24] <^^> coucou
[15:24] <zortec> ActionParsnip: it is secured in there by four screws
[15:24] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: Yes, I'm trying to install Slax via a network install, using the Ubuntu guide for installing Ubuntu over a network
[15:24] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I will take a look at it again
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Basso: its a known bug in some cases. I'd ask in #comiz
[15:24] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, sure,  but consider the first phase a boot-strap installation to get the rest of it working
[15:24] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, ##slax for slax support not here
[15:25] <Basso> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[15:25] <Lungan> Can anyone give me a tutorial how do install dotnet framework?
[15:25] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: Slax isn't the support I'm after - it's installing it from ubuntu
[15:25] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: But then how to get the cd image to it?
[15:25] <jorge-curioso> exit
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: the pxe server is ubuntu though
[15:25] <zortec> Lungan: Why not just install monodevelop?
[15:25] <jorge-curioso> XD
[15:25] <kleftisx> hello i have install Ati drivers and when i restart i was only able to see a black screen, then i have boot in recovery mode and remove ATI drivers and now the monitor goes to sleep mode. any suggestions?
[15:25] <Lungan> zortec, how? apt-get install monodevelop
[15:25] <VCoolio> Basso: it may work if you start firefox like this: export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1; firefox
[15:25] <uaneme> hello
[15:25] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, that is offtopic here. You are not dealing with an Ubuntu installation
[15:26] <bazhang> StarLionIsaac, /join ##slax
[15:26] <zortec> I am not in ubuntu atm, but you can do a quick google search for monodevelop and it will be the first or second result
[15:26] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: I'm trying to learn how to us Ubuntu to install Slax, not doing anything else yet
[15:26] <Lungan> zortec, Im trying to install a program that gives me error because i dont have dotnet framework .exe
[15:26] <StarLionIsaac> bazhang: It's the Ubuntu part of it I'm having problems with, hence, here
[15:26] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac,  you make your current paging space your active boot partition hd loader whatever.   Then you install to your big partition...but no page space.  Then you go back and change your page/loader partition back to page space
[15:26] <uaneme> does anyone know why ubuntu 9.10 can't mount a DVD
[15:27] <kotslon> Younder, i need my friends to be able to download/upload files using Filezilla or browser. Will Kerberos or SSH help me?
[15:27] <StarLionIsaac> sync3times: Ah, I think I understand now. I'll try it, thanks
[15:27] <Younder> kotslon, yes
[15:27] <mackjones> Hi - how are you all?  Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans here.
[15:27] <sync3times> StarLionIsaac, there great thing is.   Its reversable if the boot from paging space doesnt work out
[15:27] <zortec> Lungan: well, .NET framework would have to be installed through WINE since it's not a linux app and monodevelop is the equivalent of visual studio .NET
[15:27] <Younder> kotslon, this is where I give you a link
[15:27] <darjeeling> need help in dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/328554/
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> StarLionIsaac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer   will help, its all good up to the copying files bit
[15:28] <_qUaNtUm_> can linux work without ram if i gave it 2 gb of swap?
[15:28] <Lungan> zortec, so I juse monodevelop instead of .NET
[15:28] <mackjones> How can I set up my UBUNTU 9.10 with LAMP installed to be accessed from outside of the local network (i.e. from anywhere on the internet)?
[15:28] <_qUaNtUm_> i mean physicly with no ram at all
[15:28] <donri> freecell does not show up in aisleriot although it's in the help and some scheme files in the package too. ideas?
[15:28] <sync3times> hehehe
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: the system will refuse to boot without ram
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: it will fail post
[15:28] <zortec> Lungan: that is what I would use instead
[15:28] <sync3times> heheheheheh
[15:28] <Younder> kotslon: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t9.htm
[15:28] <mackjones> quantum yeah - you wont post...
[15:28] <StarLionIsaac> ActionParsnip: thanks for that too, I'll see if I can get this working now
[15:28] <zortec> _qUaNtUm_: linux doesn't require a huge swap, you can even give it 1gb
[15:28] <uaneme> mackjones you need to configure your router
[15:28] <sync3times> Ram is cheap
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: the data from the drives goes into ram then transferred to the data registers
[15:28] <donri> come on good folks dad needs freecell for a move to ubuntu ;)
[15:29] <kotslon> Younder, your link leads me to eepc :)
[15:29] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: right
[15:29] <mackjones> uaneme - yes I figured that, but how and what do I do?
[15:29] <zortec> donri: you are looking for a freecell game on linux, yes?
[15:29] <Younder> kotslon, to SFTP
[15:29] <uaneme> the modem/ router handles the port acces details of your DSL
[15:29] <Younder> kotslon, which is fine
[15:29] <Lungan> zortec, how do I use it? Still when I run wine setup.exe I get the error "dotnetfx35setup.exe cannot be verified" or sometging like that
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: you could have very little ram ad use a large swap if you for example had 24 SSDs in RAID
[15:29] <donri> zortec, well, aisleriot has freecell, it's just not showing up in the game selection for me. locale issue? do you get it?
[15:30] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: got it thanks
[15:30] <uaneme> you need to look it up in the manual of your router
[15:30] <mackjones> uaneme - yes I know that.  I'm asking what ports need to be forwarded, etc.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Lungan
[15:30] <uaneme> ah  port 80 is for http
[15:30] <zortec> Lungan: I have not installed .NET through wine so you will need to get help from people that have developed .NET applications in WINE, sorry
[15:30] <mackjones> ftp, telnet,etc?
[15:30] <zortec> donri: did you try a system search for it?
[15:30] <uaneme> telnet don't do that
[15:31] <uaneme> use ssh
[15:31] <zortec> donri: if you are sure it was successfully installed
[15:31] <Lungan> zortec, Okok, but can you recommend another way to install my program since it complain about an error since I dont have the dodnetfx35setup
[15:31] <mackjones> what if i want to SSH into my system
[15:31] <kleftisx> hello i have install Ati drivers and when i restart i was only able to see a black screen, then i have boot in recovery mode and remove ATI drivers and now the monitor goes to sleep mode. any suggestions?
[15:31] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: another thing, i temporary unplugged my monitor from a running linux system to use it on another pc, meanwhile linux will keep running right? it doesnt need the monitor to run, we need it to see whatz goin on but itz not needed by the pc right? :D
[15:31] <mackjones> OH, how do I set up SSH?  FTP?
[15:31] <uaneme> ssh is port 22 but you also need to install ssh server
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> !info aisleriot | donri
[15:31] <donri> zortec, i have a /usr/share/gnome-games/aisleriot/games/freecell.scm
[15:31] <Younder> kotslon, moral! don't give people what they want. Give them what they need.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> _qUaNtUm_: sure its fine. i even removed my ps2 keyboard and plugged it ack in and was ok
[15:32] <eremite> Off Topic:  Does anyone know of a channel where they discuss comic books?  Also, breaking news: Mininova is basically dead.
[15:32] <uaneme> mackjones: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[15:32] <_qUaNtUm_> ActionParsnip: thanks :D
[15:32] <wulfgang> !ssh
[15:32] <uaneme> that link has all the ports listed
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !info ace-of-penguins | donri
[15:33] <Younder> kotslon, I just saved you from someone craking your computer
[15:33] <Shambat> I'm using rsync to send some files from my svn to my production server ... for some reason though, som files are not sent, and there are no errors ..
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> eremite: i'd head to offtopic
[15:33] <Shambat> a folder called "core" and all subdirs and files are not sent for some reason
[15:33] <zortec> Lungan: just read some quick information on .NET in ubuntu and compatibility is poor in WINE and not recommended
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Shambat: does the rsync owner have read access to the data?
[15:33] <kotslon> Younder, yeah :)  but i still can't understand what shoud i do :) thanks for the link - i'l try to figure out what is that :)
[15:33] <zortec> Lungan: take a look at other alternatives such as monodevelop, mono, or eclipse
[15:34] <uaneme> to install ssh   # sudo apt-get install ssh
[15:34] <Younder> kotslon, seach for SFTP
[15:34] <Lungan> zortec, yeah I have installed monodevelop, but I dont know what to do now?
[15:34] <zortec> donri: how are you searching for the file?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: ubuntu comes with openssh-client
[15:34] <donri> zortec, locate
[15:35] <donri> zortec, i also see it for gnome-games in synaptic
[15:35] <uaneme> but openssh server is not installed by default
[15:35] <mackjones> uaneme - I used aptitude to install ftp-server and ssh-server
[15:35] <zortec> Lungan: You need to run the configure script and then type "make" in the console window
[15:35] <donri> scratch that, i mean aisleriot
[15:35] <mackjones> uaneme - now how do i set up ftp user accounts?
[15:35] <Lungan> zortec, how?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: the server isnt, the client is
[15:35] <zortec> Lungan: do you know how to open up a terminal?
[15:35] <uaneme> depends on what ftp server you installed
[15:36] <Lungan> zortec, yep, and I know sudo
[15:36] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: yeah I do
[15:36] <mackjones> aptitude install ftp-server
[15:36] <zortec> Lungan: ok go to the dir where monodevelop was installed and you should find a configure script
[15:36] <zortec> Lungan: You will type ./configure and run the script and then when it's finished, type make
[15:36] <DrRobinTosh> aanyone heard of KeryX?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Shambat: hmm, is there a command to give rsync to tell it to update everything rather than just the changes? Like do a full backup rather than a differential
[15:37] <uaneme> i do everything with ssh , i don't know the ftp details
[15:37] <zortec> donri: The one in gnome-games seems to be more likely what you are looking for
[15:37] <kotslon> Younder, SFTP is similar to FTP, so FTP clients can connect to it?
[15:37] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, why would you want to do that?
[15:37] <piper69> ActionParsnip: i am very sorry , but there is no md5 file for me to download
[15:37] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: I tried deleting the whole thing and re sending it but still, it ignores that one folder
[15:37] <piper69> i will be checking in M$
[15:37] <zortec> Younder: They are very similar, SFTP is secure ftp and FTP is just the standard FTP protocol just like telnet and SSH
[15:38] <Lungan> zortec, I installed with apt-get install monodevelop shouldn't the program be ready to go then?
[15:38] <uaneme> mackjones: ssh also can do file transfers
[15:38] <donri> zortec, gnome-games is just a meta package for among others, aisleriot
[15:38] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[15:38] <zortec> Lungan: do you find it in the gnome or kde menu?
[15:39] <zortec> Lungan: if it was installed through synaptic, there would be a menu entry for it
[15:39] <sameer> hi! using ubuntu. unable to use bluetooth dialup in blueman. intend to use internet via bluetooth from my nokia mobile. pl help
[15:39] <zortec> donri: who is aisleriot that you keep talking about?
[15:39] <uaneme> does anyone know how to get a DVD mounted?
[15:40] <zortec> uaneme: do a search on the ubuntu forum for how to mount a dvd and you will get a faster answer
[15:40] <uaneme> for some reason i cant get any DVD mounted
[15:40] <solcero> i try to copy an dump file with 10 GB , but after excatly 4 GB i get a message "file too large" anyone a idea ?
[15:40] <sameer> can any one help me with using bluetooth dialup in blueman in ubuntu 9.10
[15:40] <zortec> solcero: Why are you trying to copy such a large file?
[15:40] <uaneme> i looked on the forum zortec but all that didn't work
[15:40] <mattgyver> uaneme, are you trying to mount it via command line?
[15:41] <Younder> zortec, they ARE deliberatly simular
[15:41] <uaneme> i tryed to edit fstab
[15:41] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: I found out that I have to include files named "core" because rsync excludes them ... they are typcailly core dumps I guess
[15:41] <KelderP> upgraded a jaunty system which uses active directory for authentication to Karmic, now I can not login anymore if the system is connected to the network (so connection to active directory) Anyone?
[15:41] <donri> zortec, it's a package, solitaire games in gnome
[15:41] <uaneme> and installed libdvdcss
[15:41] <Shambat> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help though :)
[15:41] <zortec> uaneme: Try udo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[15:41] <xjkx> ﻿pendrive detection problem http://pastebin.ca/1688207
[15:41] <solcero> ist a vid file of my virtualbox , i need it on my other USB HD
[15:41] <Younder> zortec, but you are lsee likely to break SFTP
[15:41] <Younder> less
[15:41] <zortec> uaneme: Try udo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[15:41] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know why my connection speed from my xbmc-linux (zotaca330) to my windows smb  is only 3MB/s ? but if i switch that system to win7 (zotac) im getting 12MB/s
[15:41] <DrRobinTosh> HAppy Turkey Day!
[15:42] <zortec> sudo mount not udo by the way
[15:42] <sameer> HELP NEEDED - want to use internet thru blueotth DUN of blueman.pl guide
[15:42] <totoy> hey guys, sorry to interrupt im VERY new to ubuntu, whats the best way to learn about ubuntu, is there a manual or something i can read  : ) somehow perhaps
[15:42] <ZaNeIuM> the system serving the smb share is win vista (same-consistant), my zotac is dualboot, ubuntu 9.10 and win7
[15:42] <uaneme> zortec: doing that now
[15:42] <cow25salemba> solitaire just for MS windows
[15:42] <hkais> I am getting since few days a odd ispell popup if I type ctrl-space. How can I disable it?
[15:42] <uaneme> zortec no medium found on /dev/sr0
[15:43] <ZaNeIuM> when logged it with unbuntu im only getting 24mbs, and movie playback stutters
[15:43] <cba123> Anyone know how to get apple trailers to play on Karmic again?  Apparently they are blocking anything that doesn't say it's quicktime in the http header from streaming
[15:43] <sebsebseb> totoy: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !new |  totoy
[15:43] <totoy> sebsebseb: thanks
[15:43] <zortec> uaneme: you have to confirm that /dev/media/cdrom0 is the location of your dvd drive
[15:43] <sebsebseb> totoy: np
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> cba123: reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras   maybe
[15:43] <zortec> uaneme: /media/cdrom0
[15:44] <Ubee> How do I uninstall the unstable version of Google Chrome from my computer?
[15:44] <uaneme> i changed fstab    /dev/scd0 to /dev/sr0
[15:44] <zortec> Ubee sudo apt-remove google-chrome or chrome whatever the package is called
[15:44] <xXedixXx> Hello
[15:44] <xXedixXx> I need some help with ubuntu please :)
[15:44] <uaneme> a data DVD does mount tho
[15:44] <zortec> Ubee: or just use synpatic which would be easier
[15:44] <xXedixXx> Are there any specific ubuntu 9.10 help channels?
[15:45] <uaneme> but a MOVIE DVD does NOT mount
[15:45] <zortec> uaneme: yes but you need to know where your dvd drive is located in your system
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> cba123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LifeWithUbuntu?highlight=%28quicktime%29
[15:45] <uaneme> i see
[15:45] <D_K_2> xXedixXx this is it
[15:45] <xXedixXx> Alright.
[15:45] <xXedixXx> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu 9.10 please?
[15:45] <zortec> uaneme: take a look at this thread on the ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466248
[15:45] <D_K_2> xXedixXx !ask
[15:45] <xXedixXx> !ask
[15:45] <uaneme> ok thanks
[15:45] <xXedixXx> !ask Wireless connection
[15:45] <sameer> can anyone help with how to setup DUN in blueman for acessing internet via bluetooth from my mobile
[15:46] <ironfoot> n8ature: OK I'm back that last transaction dropped my server to the ground I guess it's back to the drawing board?
[15:46] <xXedixXx> The bot doesn't work...
[15:46] <iceroot> xXedixXx: just ask your real question to the channel
[15:46] <D_K_2> xXedixXx if you have a question, type it out and hopefully someone can help you with an answer
[15:46] <zortec> The bot has a select list of keywords that it can help you with
[15:46] <xXedixXx> Okay, I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my netbook and it works great, connects to the internet etc...
[15:46] <uaneme> zortec i also did that already
[15:46] <cba123> ActionParsnip, I did that already, this blocking non-quicktime agents in the http headers is recent
[15:46] <ironfoot> When I redone the /etc/network/interfaces it did not like that configuration.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> sameer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[15:46] <xXedixXx> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my sister's laptop earlier and I can't connect to the wireless network.
[15:46] <solcero> its possible to copy moren than 4 GB with the cp comand?
[15:47] <xXedixXx> It says: Wireless "disconnected"
[15:47] <grawity> solcero: cp does not care about the file size.
[15:47] <xXedixXx> And I've manually typed in the SSID and Key
[15:47] <donri> zortec, solved, as i suspected, locale related. freecell has a *really* weird name in swedish.
[15:47] <iceroot> xXedixXx: chipset?
[15:47] <xXedixXx> And double checked it
[15:47] <xXedixXx> Ermmm
[15:47] <xXedixXx> I'll need to find out the chipset
[15:47] <zortec> donri: ah glad you solved it :)
[15:47] <ironfoot> n8ature any other ideas???
[15:47] <the_madman> I've got shader support back, thanks :D
[15:47] <iceroot> !enter | xXedixXx
[15:47] <xXedixXx> Is there a quick way to find the chipset in ubuntu?
[15:47] <igie> I connected my machine (9.04) to my tv but i can't change my resolution to anything greater than 800x600 any reason why...
[15:47] <zortec> donri: unfortunately don't know swedish so wouldn't be able to help in that respect
[15:47] <D_K_2> xXedixXx do you know the model of the laptop?
[15:47] <solcero> grawity: but why i cant do it ? :) i get a message "file too large"
[15:47] <uaneme> zortec thanks i just got a few ideas  :-)  gonna try now
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> xXedixXx: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the chip it uses, websearch for that, if its a broadcom 43xx use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:48] <xXedixXx> Presario 2100
[15:48] <grawity> solcero: You're copying to a USB drive?
[15:48] <Ubee> How do I remove the unstable version of Google Chrome from my computer. I
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> igie: whats the output of : lspci | grep -i vga
[15:48] <zortec> Ubee: Did you look for the package in synaptic like I told you?
[15:48] <solcero> grawity: yes that right
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Ubee: use software centre or synaptic
[15:48] <iceroot> Ubee: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[15:48] <zortec> Ubee: You can also search using "search" for the package name
[15:48] <grawity> solcero: Almost always, USB drives come formatted using FAT32, which has a limit of 4 GB. (Or worse, FAT16 - 2 GB.) To get past that limit, you need to change the filesystem...
[15:49] <Ubee> how do I look for the unstable version? I am a neophyte on Ubuntu.
[15:49] <igie> ActionParsnip: its not a PCI card, its from the motherboard
[15:49] <Snausages> igie: a lot of tvs and tv outputs on video cards can't handle anything higher
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igie: its still attatched to the pci bus
[15:49] <zortec> Ubee: Take a look at the installed packages in synaptic, open up your package manager
[15:49] <Ubee> i could not find the program on software center.
[15:49] <xXedixXx> BRB
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igie: trust me, it'll tell you
[15:49] <igie> ActionParsnip: ok let me check
[15:49] <grawity> solcero: ...NTFS is the recommended one if you're going to use that USB drive on a Windows computer. Install gparted and ntfsprogs using apt-get (or using Synaptic).
[15:49] <iceroot> Ubee: installed with a deb? or with *.tar.gz?
[15:49] <zortec> Ubee: Let me get the name of the package, hold on please
[15:49] <Ubee> deb
[15:49] <D_K_2> ActionParsnip thats the terminal magic that keeps me here learning ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> D_K_2: its nearly all i use
[15:50] <n8ature> ironfoot:  which last transaction?   what do you mean by dropped it to the ground?
[15:50] <zortec> Ubee: Try sudo apt-remove chromium-browser
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> igie: same as webcams in laptops show up in lsusb as they are attatched to the usb bus
[15:50] <D_K_2> ActionParsnip someday for me, though i do like the gui
[15:50] <solcero> grawity: ah ok  thx, i only work in VirtualBox and i want to use my vid file in windows and ubuntu.
[15:50] <seyfarth> My mother just bought a new netbook, and I've convinced her to let me install Ubuntu Netbook over its Windows 7. You wanna talk about Thanksgiving? I just saved myself hours of late-night tech support calls that would've been of great cost to my eternal soul.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> D_K_2: if it works for you, greta :D
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> *great
[15:51] <zortec> Ubee: You need to use the terminal to do that, if you didn't know
[15:51] <grawity> solcero: So install ntfsprogs and poke me when it's done.
[15:51] <xXedixXx> Yeah the chipset is a Broadcom 43
[15:51] <xXedixXx> Thanks
[15:51] <iceroot> !broadcom | xXedixXx
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> seyfarth: install ssh and setup port forwarding too so you can connect from miles away and fix stuff :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> seyfarth: as well as over lan
[15:52] <Ubee> in terminal in says " command not found.
[15:52] <zortec> Ubee: command not found?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> xXedixXx: np man
[15:52] <n8ature> ironfoot:  other ideas?  well, if you are setting this server up for the first time, which is appears that you are since you don't have internet working yet, then i would just reinstall it making sure you choose to let DHCP do the networking
[15:52] <Ubee> I am in the terminal screen
[15:53] <zortec> Ubee: You are not typing the right thing... sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[15:53] <zortec> Ubee: Sorry I left out the apt-get part
[15:53] <igie> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> igie: told ya ;)
[15:54] <igie> ActionParsnip: you were right ;)
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> igie: if you sling that into a search engine you'll find guides
[15:54] <igie> ActionParsnip: thanks ;)
[15:54] <Ubee> message read:  E: Couldn't find package chromium-browser
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee: What is E?
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee:  oh error... that was just what I thought the package name might be
[15:54] <zortec> Ubee: you will need to search for the package name
[15:55] <Ubee> how do I find the pacakage name?
[15:55] <robin0800> Ubee: google-chrome?
[15:55] <zortec> Ubee: Try apt-cache search chrome
[15:55] <totoy> is there or is there not a way to run itunes in ubuntu?
[15:55] <zortec> Ubee: apt-cache search chromium
[15:56] <zortec> totoy: There is but it's a bit complicated
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: Error
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: E == error
[15:56] <zortec> ActionParsnip: Yeah I got that :)
[15:56] <Flare-Laptop> totoy: You don't need too, banshee can do everything iTunes can :D
[15:56] <totoy> zortec: how complicated is complicated : )
[15:56] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I thought back to my calculator days
[15:56] <alabd> it's required to have JRE that can be built , and should  not be from sun
[15:56] <t0rc_> I have a server without a monitor and I would like to simply pop a CD in it and and install an OS over the network. Is there a Live CD that automatically starts an SSH server or something like that ?
[15:56] <zortec> Ubee: Any luck on removing chrome?
[15:58] <sync3times> t0rc  might be some that will install via serial console
[15:58] <zortec> totoy: Feel free to check it out: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> zortec: haha like it
[15:59] <yacc_> Wondering if Ubuntu can deal with having to uncrypt multiple PV to get it's root fs?
[15:59] <driqq> can anyone suggest me a MP4 video tagger with GUI?
[15:59] <uaneme> zortec i changed the fstab to its original and now mount /media/cdrom0  -o unhide gives me an error popup
[15:59] <zortec> ActionParsnip: I was not lying ;)
[15:59] <zortec> uaneme: are you still trying to mount a DVD?
[15:59] <uaneme> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:59] <pfred1> can anyone tell me how to install java plugin?
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[15:59] <uaneme> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sr0 is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[15:59] <FloodBot2> uaneme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <uaneme> yes
[15:59] <Flare-Laptop> !java | pfred1
[15:59] <zortec> uaneme: how come you keep coming up with sr0?
[16:00] <ironfoot> n8ature:  I have internet I don't have the capability to see other machine on my network that's the problem???!!!
[16:00] <zortec> uaneme: It should be media/cdrom
[16:00] <fahadsadah> zortec: Incorrect.
[16:00] <uaneme> not sure  zortec
[16:00] <Flare-Laptop> !samba | ironfoot
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its the device name of the drive, mine is sr0 too
[16:00] <fahadsadah> /dev/sr0 is the block device the LiveCD sees
[16:00] <fahadsadah> /media/cdrom is it's mount point
[16:00] <zortec> ActionParsnip: mine is not sr0... mine is /media/cdrom1 I think
[16:00] <uaneme> thats what the error said
[16:00] <fahadsadah> sr0 errors usually mean bad disk
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> lovestoryhoangtuech11
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> lovestoryhoangtuech11
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zortec: no, thats the mount point it mounts to /dev/sr0 is the block device, just like /media/usbmount is the mount point and /dev/sdc1 is the block device
[16:01] <lovestoryhoangtu> dungniit
[16:01] <fahadsadah> Op?
[16:01] <solcero> grawity: thx , its works now
[16:01] <uaneme> bad disk?  it worked on other DVD platers but now i want to view it on my pc
[16:01] <Flare-Laptop> lovestoryhoangtu: ????
[16:01] <zortec> ActionParsnip: ok, sort of understanding mount points and devices a little better now
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: put the disk in the drive and open VLC, click file -> open disk
[16:01] <fahadsadah> uaneme: Possibly bad driver then.
[16:02] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:02] <om26er> my brother's computer have two hardrives both sata. fedora is installed on both. when i install ubuntu(karmic) on a partition of a drive grub shows the OS of the other hardrive but not the OS on which i install ubuntu
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: if its a video DVD you do NOT mount it
[16:02] <uaneme> o
[16:02] <uaneme> why not?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: its accessed raw
[16:02] <t0rc_> is there a way to image my current system install and put it on another system?
[16:02] <uaneme> i seeeee
[16:02] <brianherman> Happy thanksgiving everybody!
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: you will need libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repo
[16:03] <uaneme> i have that
[16:03] <zortec> can anyone still help me out with my quick problem I think? I need to fix the grub menu so that I can boot into jaunty since right now it boots right into windows and I can't press -esc- to see the boot menu and I am running off a live-cd
[16:03] <GhostPup> t0rc: Try partimage or monorescue
[16:03] <Symmetria> errr, stupid question, but what exactly do I apt-get to get hold of the linux kernel source to do a manual rebuild
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> uaneme: as dvd is not playable with a vanilla ubuntu due to weird laws in some coutries
[16:03] <t0rc_> GhostPup, gparted do it?
[16:03] <uaneme> zortec i had that once and i fixed it with Gparted Live CD
[16:04] <GhostPup> t0rc_: gparted is for editing partitions
[16:04] <brianherman> zortec: what partition is your windows loaded on
[16:04] <zortec> uaneme: I know ActionParsnip and iceroot told me to get a live-cd and repair the grub menu, but I am not sure what to type
[16:04] <uaneme> o damn... it's an English DVD and i'm in the netherl;ands
[16:04] <pfred1> Symmetria doesn't sound stupid to me I have to do it too.
[16:04] <zortec> The main problem is I can't boot into my linux install that I have because it goes straight to windows
[16:04] <t0rc_> GhostPup, gracias
[16:04] <GhostPup> t0rc_: You can also use something like FOG
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | zortec
[16:05] <GhostPup> No probs t0rc_
[16:05] <zortec> better question, how can I check that I still have jaunty installed on here and have not lost it?
[16:05] <uaneme> zortec i used the grub repair option by default
[16:05] <brianherman> zortec: you can also uncomment the hiddenmenu line in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:05] <uaneme> o right grub 12
[16:05] <GhostPup> t0rc_ whoops that should have been mondorescue!
[16:05] <amgarching> !acroread
[16:05] <uaneme> 2
[16:06] <brianherman> zortec:http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/29/tweaking-grub-ubuntu-510-6061-610/#comment-1383
[16:06] <uaneme> tricky
[16:06] <KelderP> close
[16:06] <KelderP> CLOSe
[16:06] <amgarching> Hi, what is the package name for adobe acrobat reader in karmic?
[16:06] <Trovador_z> hello, I'm having trouble installing tomcat6, i deleted /etc/tomcat6 and apparently that's causing problems, I tried apt-get remove all tomcat packages and reinstalled them, but still doesn't work.. is there a way to cleanup the /etc/tomcat6 dir, and /var/lib/tomcat6 ?
[16:06] <zortec> there is nothing in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:06] <fahadsadah> I don't believe Adobe Acrobat is made for linux.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> zortec: look at the installed modules in /lib/modules   the kernel versions there will tell you what is installed
[16:06] <zortec> weird... where did my jaunty go?
[16:06] <Flare-Laptop> fahadsadah: Not true
[16:06] <llutz> zortec: you have to mount your jaunty-partition first
[16:06] <pfred1> fahadsadah the reader is.
[16:06] <fahadsadah> Oh?
[16:06]  * fahadsadah stands corrected
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: /boot shows you the live-cd
[16:07] <uaneme> guys i'll try a reboot (windoze style...) i think my fstab details are not systemwide the same
[16:07] <fahadsadah> amgarching: You'll need to enable the multiverse repo
[16:07] <Flare-Laptop> !pdf | amgarching
[16:07] <fahadsadah> !multiverse | amgarching
[16:07] <zortec> llutz: ok so is there a way to fix my grub menu from within the live-cd?
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:07] <zortec> I didn't see an option to repair grub menu off this 8.10 live-cd
[16:07] <llutz> zortec: look for "Linux" partitions
[16:07] <bradpitt> what packages is should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can boot to the live desktop then chroot to the installed system to find out whats going on
[16:07] <nikitis> Can you copy a volume group of drives to a single bigger drive bit for bit?
[16:08] <Miklos> I'm having some trouble figuring out the 'add new printer' part. I want to add a Zebra 2824 label printer and it's supported in cups, but there are now zebra drivers to choose from. It says on the openprinting db that it works 'perfectly' but is not included in 'foomatic'.
[16:08] <jetienne_> q. where do i tune the power management ?
[16:08] <uaneme> thanks everyone , i'm back in a flash
[16:08] <Miklos> I've searched google but still stuck
[16:08]  * Connection error. You have been disconected from the server. Please reconnect.
[16:09] <zortec> it is showing an NTFS, Linux and Linux swap partition when I "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:09] <epinky> Connection: lol
[16:09] <Flare-Laptop> Connection: Don't.
[16:09] <llutz> zortec: "sudo mount /dev/<linux-partition> /mnt"
[16:09] <Connection> okay okay, I'm sorry ;P
[16:09] <llutz> Connection: f... off
[16:10] <zortec> llutz: what do I put in place of <linux partition>?
[16:10] <amgarching> what is the command name for System->Administration->Software sources? I am in KDE, menu is not available.
[16:10] <llutz> zortec: the result from fdisk -l
[16:10] <zortec> llutz: sudo mount /dev/sda3/mnt
[16:10] <grawity> Connection: Next time login to NickServ. Otherwise it shows a big red ? next to your nick when you do that
[16:10] <llutz> zortec: "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt"   space in front of /mnt
[16:11] <nikitis> Anyone?
[16:11] <albuntu> hello to all. is there something that i can manage my audio inputs. By using Realtek manager in win i can manage the audio that when i put my headphones i have audio only in the headphones and not in the monitor, and when i remove them i have audio in the monitor. is there something like this ?
[16:11] <jtaji> amgarching: software-properties-gtk
[16:11] <zortec> llutz: ok, it has been mounted
[16:11] <GhostPup> nikitis, what was the question again?
[16:11] <llutz> zortec: sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <epinky> nikitis: man dd
[16:11] <nikitis> GhostPup: Can i do a bit for bit copy of a volume group of drives to a single drive?
[16:12] <nikitis> epinky: i know about dd
[16:12] <nikitis> but will it work?
[16:12] <nikitis> in that situation?
[16:12] <GilPS> Boa tarde! Vim infernizar vocês! :) Hehehehe perguntas sobre webcam!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: you can use partimage to make an image then spit it onto a bigger partition, or you can use dd to write the data bit by bit from source to destination
[16:12] <zortec> is that menu.lst as in "lion" or 1st?
[16:12] <dr4g> How to add an existing user to an existing group? I tried useradd -g <group> <username> and it says "<username> already exists"
[16:12] <llutz> lion zortec
[16:12] <epinky> nikitis: afaik yes it'll work
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortec: like list
[16:12] <GhostPup> nikitis, I would do what epinky sez
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortec: without the i
[16:13] <Flare-Laptop> !english | GilPS
[16:13] <llutz> zortec: chose a readable font :)
[16:13] <zortec> llutz: it keeps coming up an empty file
[16:13] <Dougal> I'm failing to get abcde to work, it's a command line tool for ripping CDs. The config file is set to use " /dev/cdrom" as the source but i'm getting "CDROM device cannot be found."
[16:13] <zortec> llutz: I'm probably screwing up
[16:13] <Dougal> I'm just dabbling, don't really know what I'm doing and trying to figure it all out as I go. I'm stumped on this one though, any advice?
[16:13] <GilPS> Opss Sorry!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Dougal: try: sudo lshw -C drive
[16:13] <GhostPup> nikitis: You might also try the dump command or partimage
[16:13] <llutz> Dougal: take /dev/sr0
[16:13] <Flare-Laptop> GilPS: No problem
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Dougal: you will get a list of drives including the optical drive and its aliases, you will most likely find its /dev/sr0
[16:14] <llutz> !chroot | zortec
[16:14] <zortec> llutz: I see what I am doing wrong... trying to do "sudo nano /mnt/dev/sda3/menu.lst" which doesn't exist
[16:14] <llutz> zortec: sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst       <- i gave you
[16:14] <amgarching> jtaji: thanks!
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> zortec: if you are in the live cd the path to the file will be in a mount point in media
[16:15] <zortec> llutz: ok I have the menu.lst file open
[16:15] <llutz> zortec: check for hiddenmenu/timeout
[16:16] <amgarching> so I added this to apt sources "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic multiverse" still cannot find acroread. What is the package name on your system?
[16:16] <llutz> ActionParsnip: he mountet to /mnt
[16:16] <zortec> ActionParsnip, llutz: You have to forgive me, but the last couple months I have been in windows and traversing using dos and the windows file system :)
[16:17] <zortec> llutz: hiddenmenu is active and timeout is set to 0
[16:17] <epinky> amgarching: http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/
[16:17] <llutz> zortec: #hiddenmenu, timeout 5
[16:18] <pluhngz> hello, running win 7 inside of vbox on top of ubuntu 9.10, i have guest tools installed in the vista vmachine......how do i enable cross OS file drag/drop  i thought thats supported once guest tools installed?  from ubuntu desktop to the vista desktop in the window etc, and vice versa
[16:18] <llutz> zortec: or whatever you want it to be
[16:18] <Dougal> Ahhh! google has helped me! I wanted /dev/sr0 instead. Thanks all.
[16:18] <zortec> llutz: I just want to get in and then I can play around with the timeout value and other menu settings :)
[16:18] <amgarching> epinky: thanks, but this will not give you updates, in case there are any
[16:18] <llutz> zortec: set #hiddenmenu, timeout 5  now and change later then
[16:19] <zortec> so I must have been really confused... boot.ini in windows has nothing to do with why I can't see the grub menu but it was because I changed some values in menu.lst
[16:19] <epinky> amgarching: updates are important :) good luck
[16:19] <llutz> zortec: confusing because you can boot linux via windows boot.ini, but thats not recommended
[16:20] <zortec> just one more question before I go, I know ActionParsnip told me to upgrade and see if I run into any problems and if so do a clean install, about how long does it take to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 anyway?
[16:20] <amgarching> epinky:  its here: echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner"  >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude install acroread
[16:21] <GhostPup> zortec: When I did it took a few hours
[16:21] <D_K_2> zortec upgrades take a while, usually 30 min if you have a decent ISP and ok computer
[16:21] <zortec> I should leave it running for a while
[16:21] <zortec> my connection is ADSL
[16:21] <GhostPup> zortec: But I have a lot of stuff on my machine
[16:22] <D_K_2> zortec itll take a while just to download
[16:22] <llutz> zortec: if jaunty works for you, ne need for upgrading
[16:22] <llutz> no*
[16:22] <zortec> are the chances of it having problems likely? I kind of want a best guess answer on this :)
[16:22] <llutz> zortec: never touch a running system :)
[16:22] <GhostPup> zortec: I have a 100 Meg connection till the end of the year man I'm gonna miss it after that!
[16:22] <zortec> I have read on the ubuntu forum that people had a lot of problems upgrading
[16:22] <coz_> zortec,  it depends on the speed of your internet connetion  and partially your hard drive speeds as well
[16:22] <fahadsadah> zortec: I didn't upgrade, but just reinstalled
[16:23] <fahadsadah> If you want to upgrade though, go ahead
[16:23] <fahadsadah> Manually, but not with update-manager
[16:23] <alabd> anyone knows where *.so of openjdk jre is  in linux
[16:23] <Dumbix> hi all
[16:23] <Dumbix> I don't know wy my squid proxy is too low and heavy, is there any suggestion ?
[16:23] <llutz> alabd: dpkg -L openjdk.... (packagename)
[16:23] <zortec> now I am kind of mixed up, is it a good idea to upgrade or just keep jaunty and wait for 10.04 to come out?
[16:23] <Asad2005_> Is it possible to upgrade from 904 to 910 with 910 cd only no internet connection?
[16:23] <coz_> zortec,   but  a clean install will take about 15 minutes or so ...after having downloaded  the cd
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> zortec: depends how many packages you have installed
[16:24] <D_K_2> zortec you arent missing much, maybe empathy if you dont like pidgin
[16:24] <llutz> zortec: ask 10 persons to get 15 different answers
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: my / takes up little over 2gb which will be significantly faster than someone who has to download compiz / open office / gimp etc which i dont have
[16:24] <llutz> zortec: you even wont win anything
[16:24] <zortec> I want the power of ext4 and grub2 though... which is what I thought you get when you upgrade to karmic
[16:24] <zortec> but then I was told you only get it if you do a clean install
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can convert ext3 to ext4 but you wont get the full ext4 functionality
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: ext4 needs fresh filesystem, noupdateing
[16:25] <GhostPup> zortec: Fastest/Easist way is to re-install
[16:25] <coz_> zortec, well do eliminat  any possible  buggie behavior ,, I would clean install
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: and grub2.... i haven't seen any improvement yet
[16:25] <zortec> I'm torn between an upgrade/fresh install/or just leave 9.04 and wait until april to upgrade again
[16:25] <llutz> zortec: use 9.04, wait for 10.04 and think again
[16:26] <AspireZ> helloo
[16:26] <zortec> how does empathy compare to pidgin or do I want to know?
[16:26] <coz_> zortec,   I see no advantage of grub2  at this point
[16:26] <KaiForce> my 9.04 upgrade hung after fetching all files - is this a known issue?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> llutz: can i pm you a quick sec please
[16:26] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sure
[16:26] <coz_> zortec,   I prefer pidgin  althouh I really dont use  and chat clients
[16:26] <D_K_2> zortec pidgin has wayyy more options ATM but empathy will improve quickly
[16:26] <AspireZ> is there channel for arab people for ubuntu ?
[16:27] <zortec> AspireZ: my guess is probably not...
[16:27] <AspireZ> ok
[16:27] <epinky> !sa> AspireZ
[16:27] <KaiForce> Is there any way to restart the upgrade process without re-downloading all
[16:27] <Asad2005_> Is it possible to upgrade from 904 to 910 with 910 cd only no internet connection?
[16:27] <zortec> does ext4 give you a 5-10% performance boost in file operations?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> zortec: or use carrier :)
[16:28] <peterSK1> Asa2005_: of course
[16:28] <Asad2005_> I mean distru upgrade
[16:28] <calwig> hi, how do I get Java Virtual Machine on Ub8.04 installed? Which package is it
[16:28] <zortec> ActionParsnip: what is carrier?
[16:28] <KaiForce> zortec: file system performance is a function of workload
[16:28] <coz_> Asad2005_,   yeah  you should be able to upgrade  to a point...what will happen is that the cd will opnen the upgrade manager
[16:29] <peterSK1> Asad2005_: have you tried google?
[16:29] <AspireZ> ubottu : talk to me plz in priavte
[16:29] <ZaNeIuM> i was having problems with video playback stopping and someone told me to remove pulse audo, but doing sudo apt-get remove pulse* , now my desktop on longer starts
[16:29] <IdleOne> Asad2005_: yes, using the Alternate install cd
[16:29] <zortec> KaiForce: I thought it was a function of your filesystem and the type of hard drive you have such as scsi, sata, or and if you are using a raid system
[16:29] <kostkon> !info sun-java6-jre | calwig
[16:29] <KaiForce> zortec:  hardware aside
[16:29] <calwig> hi, how do I get Java Virtual Machine on Ub8.04 installed? Which package is it (For Firefox!)
[16:29] <aeon-ltd> calwig: you mean sun virtual machine?
[16:29] <Asad2005_> ok thanks all
[16:29] <KaiForce> by that I mean apart from your hardware
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its a fork of pidgin, but the devs like direct suggestions so you can email them stuff you want adding etc
[16:30] <pfred1> calwig at least the documentation mentions tour version!
[16:30] <alankila> aeon-ltd: search for something along the lines of sun-java6-jdk
[16:30] <kostkon> calwig, sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[16:30] <Asad2005_> I will d/l alternate cd
[16:30] <zortec> you can still use empathy in 9.04 right?  I know it's usually not advised to mix gnome and kde apps because you get a slow system
[16:30] <zortec> so I try to stick with just exclusively gnome or kde, not both
[16:30] <sirkamilo> This is generally polish or international
[16:30] <IdleOne> zortec: yes you can, empathy is in the 9.04 repos
[16:30] <sirkamilo> oh i se
[16:30] <sirkamilo> see
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> zortec: just more bloat on the HDD, otherwise you can mix away
[16:31] <pfred1> zortec yeah? I've done it for years and never noticed.
[16:31] <LjL> !pl | sirkamilo
[16:31] <calwig> aeon-ltd, well I have an email program thru ff that asks me to have Java VM installed. I have sun-java6-bin/jre installed but it doesnt load
[16:31] <kostkon> calwig, after installing give this in terminal: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[16:31] <zortec> of course the last impression I had of kde when I used it was that there was too much fireworks and it really got in your way of being productive, maybe that changed in 9.10
[16:31] <D_K_2> ive noticed when running KDE on gnome more processes have to be run, thus slowing down your system
[16:31] <pfred1> zortec though launching a KDE app in gnome is a bit slow.
[16:31] <alankila> kostkon: I usually recommend hunting down every gcj-related package and uninstalling them, but that's just a bit too complicated to do for beginner.
[16:32]  * alankila hates gcj
[16:32] <kostkon> alankila, yeap
[16:32] <KaiForce> how are the reviews of karmic?  I like what I've seen so far
[16:32] <Subby> is there allready a 64bit 10.1 libflashplayer.so ?
[16:33] <GilPS> Good afternoon! I came a little trouble! :)
[16:33] <zortec> has canonical released any info on what will be in 10.04 and what the codename is?
[16:33] <GilPS> As I did not find the forum in my language or in GOOGLE. I ended up here! :)
[16:33] <Flare-Laptop> zortec: Lucid Lynx
[16:33] <zortec> I know it is really early :)
[16:33] <kostkon> !ubuntu+1 | zortec
[16:33] <GilPS> It's about webcam. My webcam works with AMSN, CHEESE and SKYPE.
[16:33] <aeon-ltd> calwig: is java that neccessry, cos i have it but disabled it because of it's "uselessness" in reality
[16:33] <kostkon> oops
[16:33] <DJones> !lucid | zortec
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, still doesnt work
[16:34] <GilPS> But does not work with camorama, motion and effectv.
[16:34] <GilPS> Does anyone have any idea of what can be?
[16:34] <vini__> algum brazuka ? preciso tirar algumas duvidas :D
[16:34] <D_K_2> GilPS - type your question/problem in one sentence/paragraph
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, i think the website has an issue
[16:34] <DJones> !br | vini__
[16:34] <zortec> Karmic Koala is a cool name but Lucid Lynx... hmm wonder about those names
[16:34] <zortec> they say there is a lot to be said in a name
[16:34] <kostkon> calwig, did you restart your browser
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, www-s-mail.com (can you click on Sign-Up)
[16:34] <GilPS> ok
[16:34] <alankila> aeon-ltd: java is useless by itself. It's all about finding software written in java that you want to run, of course.
[16:34] <kostkon> calwig, let me check
[16:34] <calwig> kostkon, restart yep
[16:34] <KaiForce> zortec:  how is karmic koala any cooler than lucid lynx?
[16:34] <Ubee> I have a question for anyone
[16:35] <Guest38123> It's always nice to be Lucid after you've been Karmic
[16:35] <pfred1> alankila all I want is the browser plugin enabled here.
[16:35] <coz_> Ubee,  shoot
[16:35] <zortec> KaiForce: maybe I just have an affinity for koalas
[16:35] <KaiForce> could be
[16:35] <alankila> pfred1: that? I suspect it's called sun-java6-plugin
[16:35] <calwig> kostkon, ok thanks, the sign up site uses java. I will check with another website my java settings. See if this s-mail site is bugged
[16:35] <D_K_2> zortec- you know what? you are missing "upstart" by not upgrading. supposed to speed up boot, but ive seen my boot-time lengthen by atleat 5 seconds
[16:35] <KaiForce> there is an airline that has a different animal on the tail of every one of their airplanes.  they should do a promotion with canonical
[16:36] <zortec> D_K_2: upstart?
[16:36] <nutzer_> hallo
[16:36] <kostkon> calwig, yeah something happened. it crashed by browser :S
[16:36] <D_K_2> !upstart
[16:36] <pfred1> alankila I appear to have the lib package installed etc just looking for the instructions for my version of Ubuntu so far all docs i see stop at 8.04 I have 9.1
[16:36] <zortec> D_K_2: but if it increased your boot time, I am not sure I trust it unless it's another one of those features that only works if you do a full install
[16:36] <alankila> pfred1: I doubt anything has changed. I'm sadly on win32 so I can't validate whether it really works. Java applets are such a rarity after all.
[16:36] <Marove> good day. I want to set up ubuntu on my laptop with SSD and want to ask if there are any porblems with ubuntu and ssd (destroying SDD, making it slow...)
[16:36] <calwig> kostkon, lol ok yours went worse, mine just stopped and showed a readable error to click on if nothing happened
[16:37] <alankila> I think last time I enabled java was to see some interactive charts at mathworld
[16:37] <bradpitt> what packages i should install from medibuntu to make 3gp audio (amr) works? amrnb or amrwb?
[16:37] <calwig> kostkon, ok so the site is faulty. all good then thanks
[16:37] <coz_> zortec,  you are on 9.04 right now?
[16:37] <KaiForce> Marove:  I think you'll be fine.
[16:37] <kostkon> calwig, :)
[16:37] <zortec> coz_: yes
[16:37] <pfred1> alankila I wish my ISP felt that way their page seems to need java
[16:37] <D_K_2> zortec - i think its just not perfected. the lynx is gonna be great though
[16:38] <zortec> coz_: oh wait if you mean have I logged into 9.04? not yet
[16:38] <KaiForce> for all of you that responded to my query about the upgrade, which is nobody, restarting it seems to have gotten me past the logjam.
[16:38] <coz_> zortec,  well I have 9.10 installed... I fond nothing particularly special about grub2   and the boot sequence in 9.10 karmic is sluggish at best...once in the system it is decent  but not perfect...i would  name karmic an experimental release more than anything
[16:38] <Dumbix> is there someone who ever worked with : squid-squidGuard as a proxy ?
[16:38] <nooga> weird stuff: i've got llvm and llvm-gcc packages installed and i can't seem to find llvm-gcc command but other llvm-* commands exist
[16:38] <calwig> kostkon, http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html <-- java works here
[16:38] <aeon-ltd> coz_: grub boot sequence or ubuntu itself?
[16:38] <GilPS> My webcam works with AMSN, CHEESE and SKYPE. But does not work with camorama, motion and effectv. Does anyone have any idea of what can be?
[16:38] <Ubee> test
[16:39] <D_K_2> coz_ - completely agree on the test release
[16:39] <Marove> kaiforce: if there are many write and read-actions on ssd it will be destroyed, but there are a way, that this doesn't happen (i know it from windows 7) is this function also in ubuntu kernel?
[16:39] <zortec> coz_: I will stick with 9.04 for now and see what is in store for lucid lynx
[16:39] <aeon-ltd> Ubee: your question was 'test'?
[16:39] <Ubee> i was just seeing if I was online
[16:39] <LjL> coz_: so, it's not the most wonderful thing in the world, but it works. isn't that the definition of a stable, not "experimental", release?
[16:39] <kroraina> me too
[16:39] <zortec> Ubee: there are other ways to see if you are online than type "test"
[16:39] <coz_> aeon-ltd,  well the boot sequence is not good  and the version 9.10 is strickly experimental and therefor  ,,,in my opinion .. not all that trustworthy
[16:39] <kostkon> calwig, yeah. thus, something's wrong with the java applet on s-mail.com
[16:39] <KaiForce> Marove:  I think wear leveling is built into the SSD and not a function of the OS, but maybe I'm wrong.
[16:39] <Jimi_Neutral> i had to go back to intrepid cause karmic would not work with clonezilla
[16:40] <Ubee> My enter key does not work and I can only enter by using the enter key on the chatzilla screen. What could have happened?
[16:40] <Jimi_Neutral> something to do with its bootscripts
[16:40] <bradpitt> GilPS : i have same problem, but i guess my cam is fine if i can view it with Cheese
[16:40] <pfred1> coz_ 9.1 is an experimental version?
[16:40] <coz_> zortec,  i would wait until april unless  you have something that needs to be changed on the system with some of the new libraries
[16:40] <coz_> pfred1,  at best  ... in my opinion...yes
[16:40] <Random832> after resuming from hibernate I have several problems - cannot connect to non-WEP wireless networks, video is screwed up in text mode consoles, lsmod/rmmod/etc hang.
[16:40] <Guest32372> I have a weird problem. I deleted WINE and removed it from my main menu. When I reinstalled it, it doesn't show up in the menu anymore...can someone tell me where the wine menu is located so I can delete everything in it, including the programs that I installed on it.
[16:40] <Random832> does anyone know how to solve any of these?
[16:40] <pfred1> coz_ oh boy what have i gotten myself into here?
[16:40] <aeon-ltd> coz_: (no flame war please) but i've found on ubuntu on old)few years) hardware is incredibly sluggish my fastest was 9.04 56 seconds
[16:41] <coz_> aeon-ltd,  understood
[16:41] <calwig> kostkon, yeah i get to click on an error link and doesnt crash. it doesnt matter. :)  Instead do you know what to dod when the flashplugin in ff doesnt work? (but it works on all others epiphany,galeon,seamonkey)
[16:41] <zortec> I'm about to do some heavy development in C++, vb, java, and C# testing out programs... I suggested to another user to download monodevelop, if you are a programmer is that the best IDE to work in?
[16:41] <buttons840> anyone know how i can reinstall grub from a ubuntu 9.10 live disk?   i tried "sudo grub" but it says that grub is not found; it appears grub is no available on the live disk
[16:41] <pfred1> aeon-ltd your boot up? my system is circa 2002 and I wouldn't say it is that bad running 9.1
[16:41] <matthew1> (repeat, changed name) I have a weird problem. I deleted WINE and removed it from my main menu. When I reinstalled it, it doesn't show up in the menu anymore...can someone tell me where the wine menu is located so I can delete everything in it, including the programs that I installed on it.
[16:41] <kostkon> calwig, hmm. not really
[16:41] <IdleOne> coz_: where did you get the idea that 9.10 is experimental?
[16:41] <coz_> pfred1,  if it is already installed .. keep using it.... I am sure before april many of the things that are now ...ah....wanting for improvement...may be updated
[16:41] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: how fast?
[16:41] <alankila> zortec: for C# and Linux, perhaps it is. But I think Eclipse/Java beats it overall, if language can be changed.
[16:41] <KelderP> Anyone did an upgrade of a jaunty system which is configured in an Active Directory environment?
[16:42] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I never sat there with a stop watch but subjectively no more than anything else I've ever seen
[16:42] <zortec> alankila: I have used eclipse before, haven't tried out mono
[16:42] <alankila> I personally find monodevelop slow, crash-prone, and inadequate as IDE, although it beats a text editor for sure.
[16:42] <marc__> please help, I need to install Apache 2.0, but in synaptic there's only version 2.2 and if I check in the "force version" menu, it's only version 2.2 that is avaiable there... how can I install an older version??
[16:42] <zortec> alankila: eclipse has so much that I often get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of features
[16:42] <uaneme> still fighting with mount.... looks like i have copy protection at work here :(
[16:42] <kostkon> calwig, maybe you'll need to manually copy the java plugin files to firefox's folder or something like that
[16:42] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: i'm on arch right now and boot time from on switch to desktop is 28-35 seconds
[16:42] <Fitz11> Anyone wanna help me?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[16:42] <mrXX> #mysql is sleeping, can i get some help with mysql here or any other room?
[16:43] <alankila> zortec: more features > less features, imo. If they don't force themselves upon you so you can pick them up in leisure.
[16:43] <KaiForce> Fitz11:  sure.  your problem is your question mark key is stuck.
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> fitz11: please no spam and yes
[16:43] <coz_> IdleOne,  well first grub2 is beta.... and beta is always experimental....and in my opinion...a script driven boot loader is  not even necessary...there are other things  and karmic is certainly not my favorite of the versions already out there  but  I am not sure this is really the place for this :)
[16:43] <pfred1> aeon-ltd might be twice that long I don't know but I usually don't boot up so it is moot to me
[16:43] <kostkon> !patience | Fitz11
[16:43] <Fitz11> HAHAHA Do u know about the dell mini 10v with ubuntu
[16:43] <calwig> kostkon, java? this is about flash.
[16:43] <calwig> kostkon, its ok dont matter anyway
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: so you just suspend at night and wake in the morning?
[16:44] <randomuser> why does my xorg.conf from ubuntu not work in other distros?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I don't boot up my refrigerator when I wish a snack from it either :)
[16:44] <kostkon> calwig, ah sorry, yeah you said flash. my bad
[16:44] <mrXX> anyone mysql guy here?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd no i just turn off my monitor
[16:44] <zortec> mrXX: what kind of help you need?
[16:44] <uaneme> is it wise to set the unhide option in fstab on a cd player?
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd I've run computers like that for years now
[16:44] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: wow. whats your power bill like?
[16:44] <mrXX> zortec i want to just know what info i get when i export a table structure
[16:44] <pfred1> aeon-ltd a PC may add $6 a year
[16:45]  * buttons840 fears windows has screwed up his ubuntu partition when it tried to boot from it
[16:45] <mrXX> zortec can i show you the copy paste
[16:45] <Fitz11> UBOTTu can u help me
[16:45] <zortec> it depends what you choose to export under phpmyadmin which is what I generally use
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: thats insane is this a micro-ATX you running?
[16:45] <Fitz11> me
[16:45] <GilPS> bradpitt, But I need, get it to work with motion! :) This is the problem!
[16:45] <Marove> kaiforce: it's named TRIM and i think its a OS thing
[16:45] <pfred1> aeon-ltd regular desktop
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> Fitz11: thats not how bots work
[16:46] <aeon-ltd> pfred1: no heavy tasks like 3d rendering or compiling?
[16:46] <pfred1> aeon-ltd not when I am away usually no.
[16:46] <zortec> !ubottu help > Fitzll
[16:46] <mrXX> zortec http://paste.ubuntu.com/328610/
[16:46] <calwig> kostkon, no bads,you helped earlier on Java, its appreciated :)
[16:46] <alankila> anyway, imo, the largest problem about C# on Linux in practice is that all instructions you find are for windows and visual studio, and that means a very slow discovery process is necessary, often reading the class library source as the only real documentation. Mono has to be commended for being a reasonable C# and class library reimplementation, but in practice it's a world of pain to actually deal with it.
[16:47] <kostkon> calwig, :)
[16:47] <mrXX> zortec what is the difference of the 'email' between line 5 and 13
[16:47] <zortec> alankila: so are you trying to say that developing in C# on linux is going to be painful and difficult?
[16:47] <KaiForce> Marove:  looks like TRIM only affects old SSDs?
[16:47] <alankila> indeed, that has been my experience.
[16:47] <zortec> alankila: hopefully not the same for other languages such as java and visual basic
[16:47] <KaiForce> i mean the problem that TRIM addresses
[16:47] <buttons840> can grub be installed from a ubuntu 9.10 live disk?   With previous ubuntu disks you could "sudo grub" and quickly install only grub, but on the 9.10 disk it says "grub: command not found"
[16:48] <wasutton3-1> what is a good program to transcode a folder of files
[16:48] <KaiForce> buttons840:  can't you install grub
[16:48] <KaiForce> then run it?
[16:48] <coz_> buttons840,  no grub2 doesnt work that way   you may want to go to #grub   channel for more indepth info
[16:48] <alankila> zortec: I think that I can only recommend java from the managed world. Java on Linux is pretty good, and the same tools that people run on windows are generally available on linux, as it is overall much more platform neutral. You'll always hurt from using a fringe platform otherwise, but Java has only one platform, the "java platform".
[16:49] <randomuser> wasutton: video files? handbrake. hands down.
[16:49] <buttons840> coz_, is it more difficult than before?
[16:49] <marc__> anyone know how to install older version of package?
[16:49] <Marove> kaiforce: oh realy? my ssd is a new ssd.. ok i will check my local computer-expert ;) thank you for your help
[16:49] <alankila> it doesn't matter if the underlying OS is windows or linux, although OS X is not well supported for some unbelieveable reason.
[16:49] <init[1]> buttons840: boot with that CD and use chroot
[16:49] <IdleOne> !grub2 | buttons840
[16:49] <wasutton3-1> randomuser: but can it add an entire folder at once?
[16:49] <KaiForce> Marove:  ok, good luck.
[16:49] <coz_> buttons840,  it is way different than grub legacy  so in that respect it is  a bit more difficult  because of that
[16:49] <Marove> kaiforce: thank oyu
[16:49] <trupheenix> i need help i'm unable to ping to my new ubuntu laptop from my old ubuntu laptop through my wifi router
[16:50] <zortec> mrXX: there is no difference in the "email" fields in line 5 and 13
[16:50] <zortec> mrXX: in line 5 you create a field called "email" and in line 13 you have set up an index for status_2 to use "email"
[16:51] <q0_0p> where can i find libgtk2.0-0?
[16:51] <alankila> openjdk, however, brings java 6 capabilities even to OS X so that works as a band-aid for the time being. OpenJDK is nearly as good as Sun Java, after all, it's based on the same code. However, OpenJDK hasn't seen any bugfixes since it was forked off from the java trunk and modified somehow for license reasons.
[16:51] <q0_0p> devede depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0); however:
[16:51] <zortec> mrXX: I do wonder about the structure of your database... and why there are so many keys in that table
[16:51] <q0_0p> ii'm not understanding (>= 2.16.0)
[16:51] <Subby> is there allready a 64bit 10.1 libflashplayer.so ?
[16:51] <zortec> alankila: is eclipse the best ide for java?
[16:51] <mrXX> zortec i donno i just exported the table structure
[16:52] <zortec> alankila: on windows we used jbuilder and netbeans
[16:52] <Iowan> trupheenix: Both machines get IP address? Can you ping router?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Subby: not yet but you can install flashplubin-nonfree, then swap out the .so file with the 10.1 one
[16:52] <alankila> zortec: that is a point of contention. I am satisfied with it, but many people can't stand it. One would need to experiment.
[16:52] <mrXX> zortec for some reason in the view that i create, only ip works but not email
[16:52] <coz_> q0_0p,  that might mean ...if you are compiling something...that you need to install the .dev pacakge for libgtk2
[16:52] <pfred1> whoot java plugins!
[16:52] <q0_0p> coz_, cool thx
[16:52] <zortec> mrXX: I'm not sure what you're asking or trying to get help, could you tell me the question again?
[16:52] <coz_> q0_0p,    if on gnome...go to system/adminstration/synaptic package maanger
[16:52] <cmp> hi, i have a problem with Firefox- when I start my ubuntu systea ,I dont have  a problem at all with it or with any other app ... once i start to use firefox - it goes so slow ... any body can help?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Subby: the 10.0 native flash 64bit runs better as the 32bit one via nspluginwrapper isnt as slick
[16:53] <coz_> q0_0p,   hit Search  and type in   ligtk2
[16:53] <trupheenix> Iowan, yes both machines are able to ping the router
[16:53] <alankila> I do not know the tools well enough to say which would be best. I tried IDEA but that didn't work out for me, I kept on running into all sorts of silly issues all the time.
[16:53] <zortec> cmp: first guess would be a memory problem in firefox
[16:53] <coz_> q0_0p,   there is a   libgtk2.0-dev  package there
[16:53] <q0_0p> coz_, cool
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> cmp: if you have a low ram system firefox is a bad choice as it sucks ram like pamela anderson in certain situations
[16:53] <dr4g> I have a file DIR that's owned by "parliament:www-data" and my SVN Daemon is running as user 'www-data'. How to give the user www-data access to the DIR owned by "parliament:www-data"
[16:53] <dr4g> -
[16:53] <FloodBot2> dr4g: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <Subby> ActionParsnip:  okay so there is no native 10.1 64 at the moment :)
[16:53] <zortec> alankila: I tried IDEA too and we didn't get along and eclipse is great if I don't want to spend an hour learning how to use it
[16:53] <kernel_geek> Hello, I need to write a program/bash script to make every possible combination of charachters from a to ZZZZ. Can anyone help, or suggest an appropriate google search, Im struggling ;)
[16:53] <dr4g> Flooding? :S
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Subby: not yet but its proposed
[16:54] <zortec> kernel_geek: what is this bash script for?
[16:54] <Iowan> trupheenix: Pinging by name or address (or both)?
[16:54] <mrXX> zortec well i have a pommo mass email software and it sees in the database to get the email add and all info(this is the structure of that table which pommo looks into)
[16:54] <Subby> ActionParsnip:  okay, thanks
[16:54] <cmp> zortec, actionparsnip, how can i fix this problem - allthough iam having 2G ram ?
[16:54] <trupheenix> Iowan, ping by ip address
[16:54] <KelderP> trupheenix: I had the same problem, but that was a network configuration problem now first router as real router and Wifi router configured as switch now
[16:54] <KelderP> OK
[16:54] <mrXX> zortec does it make sense to you up to now?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> cmp: after its ran, run: free -m; sleep 20; top
[16:54] <zortec> mrXX: sort of, I'm not familiar with pommo mass software
[16:54] <Jimi_Neutral> cmp, do you have loads of toolbars like google toolbar and such?
[16:54] <coz_> q0_0p,  and when compiling anythingi that requires development pacakges  or other libraries ...it is usually safer  to go into synaptic to find those dependencies...with the histroy option in  synaptic...it makes it easier to remove those pacakges if they fail or  screw something up
[16:54] <kernel_geek> zortec: To generate passwords.... Dont worry my server lol, just trying to tighten securety
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> cmp: you will see your ram use then how the system is running and what is chewing your system
[16:55] <mrXX> zortec so what i m creating is a view of that table so that i dont have to import all email from another database
[16:55] <nudols> !list
[16:55] <q0_0p> coz_, was trying to install devede using a deb but it telling me dependency problems
[16:55] <coz_> q0_0p,   are you installing with the terminal?
[16:55] <zortec> mrXX: you should use a gui interface like phpmyadmin if you are not and make sure that you export only what you need in the export tab
[16:55] <q0_0p> coz_, yes
[16:55] <cmp> jimi_neutral, i dont have
[16:55] <zortec> cmp: how much ram is firefox using?
[16:56] <cmp> actionparsnip, i dont know what are you saying
[16:56] <coz_> q0_0p,    then in that same terminal try   sudo apt-get install -f
[16:56] <trupheenix> KelderP, it's one Wifi router
[16:56] <zortec> cmp: open up terminal, type ps -aux
[16:56] <cmp> zortec, guide me how to check it
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> cmp: they are terminal commands
[16:56] <trupheenix> KelderP, i didn't get u
[16:56] <q0_0p> coz_, u can do sudo apt-cache search it the same as using synaptic
[16:56] <coz_> q0_0p,   that should pull in all the required dependencies
[16:56] <mrXX> zortec i m so confused and i dont know how to put the question, i wll talk to u later - thanks for offering your help
[16:56] <zortec> if anyone knows a gui way to check ram usage, let me know :)
[16:56] <coz_> q0_0p, ` that works only works with a deb package installation as far as I know
[16:56] <KelderP> trupheenix: if you are using a single wifi router you got another problem, sorry
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> zortec: no idea, i always use: free -m
[16:57] <cmp> i did zortec.
[16:57] <cmp> and what next zortec?
[16:57] <q0_0p> coz_, sudo apt-get -f install is dangerous
[16:57] <Jimi_Neutral> cmp, ok just a thought, try actionparsnips command to help you see what memory is being used
[16:57] <q0_0p> coz_, it might remove things u dont want to get removed
[16:57] <coz_> q0_0p,  no not generally and I have never had issues with t hat
[16:57] <trupheenix> KelderP,  I see it I have enabled AP isolation so that means each of my wifi clients has it's own Virtual Private Network. so they cannot see each other. DOH!!!
[16:57] <q0_0p> coz_, i just did aptitude install gtk2
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: not if you install a deb and need its deps, opera is a classic example here
[16:57] <zortec> cmp: there is also the top command which I forgot
[16:58] <joab> Is there some way to tell what each of my four CPU's are doing? Like in top where you can see what CPU a process was last on, can I get that backwards and see for each processor, what process was last running?
[16:58] <cmp> what is top command zortec,?
[16:58] <robin0800> zortec: there is system monitor in menu's
[16:58] <rigel> hi, i'm having trouble with the adobe firefox plugins
[16:58] <coz_> q0_0p,   mm   I never use apititude  only apt-get  here  so I may not be the best to discuss that
[16:58] <zortec> if you prefer a gui solution, check out gnome-system-monitor
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> cmp: top    is a command
[16:58] <cmp> iam very new in this zortec,?
[16:58] <rigel> and i'm not sure how to nuke them all and re-install
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> cmp: run it in a terminal
[16:58] <coz_> q0_0p,    but  a  sudo apt-get install -f  has never been dangerous on this end
[16:58] <coz_> be right back have to move the car
[16:59] <Iowan> trupheenix: Fixed already? Congrats!
[16:59] <cmp> ok i done it actionparsnip ,  what else i need to do ?
[16:59] <zortec> cmp: basically top will show you all the processes and you can page through them to see which one is using the most ram
[17:00] <zortec> cmp: do you have addons installed in firefox? should have checked that out first
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cmp: just watch top, see whats making stuff run slow
[17:00] <zortec> cmp: I would try this, run an instance of firefox with no addons and check mem usage
[17:00] <joab> zortec: Just press M and top will sort by memory, descending.
[17:01] <zortec> cmp: you want to run firefox in safe mode
[17:01] <cmp> what is addons, please go with me step by step - like this i will not understand any thing .zortec
[17:01] <zortec> cmp: so from the command line, it would be firefox -safe-mode
[17:02] <epy64t> hi guys :) I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and I'm having some troubles connecting to the wireless network. I've added the connection, but I can't figure out how to connect. After some reading I've found that it might be that my wireless card isn't supported. Any ideas how to go about and fix this issue?
[17:02] <zortec> cmp: addons are basically small programs that you install into firefox to do things
[17:02] <venger> anyone know syntax to string pattern match in the dash shell ? ie equivalent to bash if [[ "$MYVAR" =~ somestring ]];
[17:02] <zortec> cmp: you can see if you have any by going to tools -> addons
[17:02] <cmp> i opened the terminal and i typed top and i have a sheet of information . but how can i mention the app which is eating my ram . zortec,?
[17:02] <LabRaTz> cmp: just a note, htop is better than top
[17:03] <zortec> cmp: press M and it will sort it by memory according to joab
[17:03] <j2daosh> whats up everyone
[17:03] <j2daosh> I need some help troubleshooting a disconnect issue
[17:03] <jesse2> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 and i've loaded up KDE.  For some reason, all GTK apps (Mozilla, Gimp, Pidgen, etc) look like Windows 95.  I have KCM-GTK installed, but when i set the widget style in the KDE system settings, it does nothing.
[17:03] <zortec> LabRaTz: what is the diff in htop and top?
[17:03] <karma_police> is there an easy way to convert uif file to iso?
[17:03] <j2daosh> I have openssh-server installed and configured and I can connec tot the server from outside my network, but every 2 or 3 minutes, it disconnects me, anyone know why?
[17:03] <robin0800> cmp: you can also use system monitor -nice GUI
[17:04] <cmp> zortec, i have some addons, what shoudldo then with it , ?
[17:04] <LabRaTz> zortec: it is layed out better, with the functions onscreen, colorcoded, with memory management bars and cpu bars at the top
[17:04] <zortec> cmp: close firefox, and open up a terminal window for me
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: configure it with a greater timeout
[17:04] <paradoxic> http://pastie.org/715624 I can't get xfce to start on a vnc display.. trying to setup on a VPS. anyone have any ideas on this ?
[17:04] <mataks> how to detect my graphic driver? im running toshiba sattelite  laptop
[17:04] <jesse2> Has anyone else had a problem with kcm-gtk not displaying any of the GTK+ widget styles in KDE?
[17:04] <karma_police> whats the best program for converting .uif files to .iso?
[17:05] <llutz> mataks: check "lspci"
[17:05] <j2daosh> uif -> iso : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482963
[17:05] <j2daosh> it shouldn't be timing out though
[17:05] <zortec> cmp: then type "path to firefox" firefox -safe-mode
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: if you are connecting over wifi your system may be dropping then picking up signal, enough to killl ssh but not to disrupt web browsing etc
[17:05] <j2daosh> I have a 25 meg internet connection at home and a t-1 at work
[17:05] <cmp> what do you mean Path to firefox zortec.?
[17:05] <j2daosh> and its all wired
[17:05] <zortec> LabRaTz: Thanks for that tip, I will be using that one over top :)
[17:06] <LabRaTz> zortec: also, you can scroll up and down in the list, which if I remember is a limitation of top
[17:06] <zortec> cmp: the path where firefox is installed
[17:06] <j2daosh> I can connect to it and it works, i run a couple commands (ps -ef, df -h, vim, etc) and then it just dies
[17:06] <cmp> :(
[17:06] <paradoxic> Is there a way to autogenerate an xorg config file ?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: yes but if the wifi is flakey it will sever connection, you could have a 10 petabit connection and it'd still be the same
[17:06] <j2daosh> no wifi, its all wired
[17:06] <cmp> i dont know where is it zortec - it came with my ubuntu 9.04
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: ok thats cool
[17:06] <llutz> j2daosh: make session more verbose and check for errors
[17:07] <j2daosh> that in the sshd_config?
[17:07] <llutz> j2daosh: ssh -vv
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: check the timeout settings, make sure its appropriate
[17:07] <epinky> j2daosh: Check your ServerAliveInterval on your ssh_config
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: yeah should be
[17:07] <Guest32073> hoe to change login password and administrator password which used to authenticate while installing something?
[17:08] <cmp> zortec.?
[17:08] <j2daosh> nohing about timeout in the sshd_conf
[17:08] <zortec> cmp: try /usr/bin/firefox
[17:08] <j2daosh> there is a login grace period, but I'm already logged in and such. The log level is set to INFO, but I don't see anything about it in /var/log/messages
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: check ClientAliveInterval - 0 means no timeout afaik
[17:08] <zortec> cmp: /usr/bin/firefox -safe-mode
[17:09] <init[1]> cmp: are you trying to find the app that is using most of your memory?
[17:09] <ibuclaw> Guest32073, System->Administration->Users and Groups
[17:09] <Iowan> Guest32073: System>Admin>Users and groups
[17:09] <ibuclaw> Iowan, ;)
[17:09] <DuBz09> what sort of sound card is the best to get that ubuntu will reconise ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: maybe your isp doesnt like ssh traffic ad is killing the connection
[17:09] <Iowan> outtyped...
[17:09] <zortec> init[1]: he is and I suggested he run firefox in safe mode to see if it's one of the addons he installed
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | DuBz09
[17:09] <emma> paradoxic: does this work: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:09] <j2daosh> no *Alive* setting anyway in the sshd_conf
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> DuBz09: old sounblasters work great :D
[17:10] <cmp> it tells me (no suck file or directory ) zortec.
[17:10] <j2daosh> my isp doesn't block any of that
[17:10] <init[1]> zortec: so he confrimed that its ff that is causing the problem ?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: could add it then....
[17:10] <zortec> cmp: there should be a directory
[17:10] <alabd> where is *.so file of gcj firefoxplugin/webplugin ?
[17:10] <init[1]> cmp: whereis firefox <- try that
[17:10] <ibuclaw> emma, renaming xorg.conf should reset configuration to failsafe. ;)
[17:10] <brianherman> DuBZ09: prob get a soundblaster
[17:10] <zortec> init[1]: he noticed that his machine started running slow when he had firefox open
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> j2daosh: have you seen any bug reports for similar?
[17:11] <init[1]> zortec: ah!
[17:11] <jwm1> can anyone help getting dual monitors working in Karmic?
[17:11] <cmp> zortec , i typed exactly , cmp/bin/firefox      and it tells me so
i have 2 entries in users and groups..how do i change root password? its is grayed...
[17:11] <LabRaTz> jwm1: are you running nvidia or ati card?
[17:11] <zortec> cmp: you want to type /usr/bin/firefox -safe-mode
[17:11] <init[1]> cmp: whereis firefox <- try that will give you the path
[17:11] <zortec> cmp: not sure where you got cmp in thepath
[17:11] <ibuclaw> Guest32073, unlock?
[17:11] <jwm1> not sure to be honest
[17:12] <init[1]> cmp: or try firefox -safe-mode
[17:12] <Iowan> Guest32073: root password is disabled by default
[17:12] <ibuclaw> Guest32073, I'm not really the person to ask. I teach sudo rather than using root accounts.
[17:12] <Iowan> Guest32073: use sudo instead
[17:12] <zortec> sudo is the answer to all our root problems
[17:12] <ibuclaw> zortec, you mean "the root of all our problems"
[17:12] <init[1]> Guest32073: run ->sudo bash
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> zortec: suggest trying a slimmer browser like arora
[17:13] <zortec> ibuclaw: I was saying that in jest :)
[17:13] <init[1]> Guest32073: passwd <-
[17:13] <init[1]> Guest32073: that would reset root password
yes i just want to change the root password from login password..how do i do it?
[17:13] <LabRaTz> jwm1: well, unfortunately I only have experience with nvidia cards.  hold on a sec...
[17:13] <init[1]> Guest32073: ^
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Guest32073
[17:13] <init[1]> !root
[17:13] <zortec> There is no root password.  You can change the password for the user account
[17:14] <zortec> but that is all I can think of
[17:14] <jwm1> BRB
[17:14] <ibuclaw> zortec, random fact - gdm doesn't disable root logins in Karmic! O:
[17:14] <billy_maze> I recently installed Ubuntu 9.10, and ever since my machine has been randomly freezing up.  Completely freezes, and I have to cold boot my machine.  What is causing this?
[17:14] <jwm1> back
[17:14] <zortec> ibuclaw: that is why there is gksudo :)
[17:14] <cmp> zortec, iam trying to find it but i dont know how . i cant reach any thing .. try to guide me more please
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> ibuclaw: its unnecessary andunsafe to do so, its also offtopic for this channel as its not supported
[17:15] <billy_maze> I've looked all over and I can't find anything that applies.
[17:15] <zortec> cmp: it is hard for me to help when I can't see what you are doing
[17:15] <zortec> cmp: if you are in a terminal window, firefox is located at /usr/bin/firefox
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> cmp: have you tried a different browser?
[17:15] <zortec> cmp: you just need to type /usr/bin/firefox -safe-mode like I have written it out
[17:15] <LabRaTz> jwm1: there's probably a quicker way to do this, but I think if you run System>Administration>System Testing, it will report what kind of card you have.
[17:16] <zortec> do they have remote programs to help users? :)
[17:16] <jwm1> thanks lab
[17:16] <Guest32073> so is it possible to have the login password different from sudo password?
[17:16] <zortec> I know some users would feel unsafe about that, but still thought I'd ask
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> zortec: ssh, vnc
[17:17] <Iowan> Guest32073: yes
[17:17] <zortec> Guest32073: yes that is possible
how do i do it?
[17:17] <rapha> How can I make the 1 TB partition of my external drive a bit smaller without destroying the data one it (ReiserFS) - is there a software for that?
[17:17] <incorrect> how can i set the locale to be something else, dpkg-reconfigure locales didn't do what i hoped for
[17:17] <cmp> zortec, i copied what you gave me here - and it opened a window of firefox
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rapha: if all the partitions are unmounted, you can use gparted to resize
[17:18] <LabRaTz> jwm1: no prob, although I'm still looking for a better way
[17:18] <Iowan> Guest32073: Can't say...
[17:18] <zortec> incorrect: did you try the setlocale command?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rapha: make sure any data is backed up in case of catastophe
 why?
[17:18] <DrRobinTosh> how do i remove the GUI from Ubuntu Sever>
[17:18] <mgv2> why when i moving over links in interpals.net the curser blinks?
[17:18] <incorrect> zorrolero, command not found, no suggested package
[17:18] <ibuclaw> Guest32073, as per above, unsupported
[17:18] <cmp> and . zortec?
[17:18] <zortec> DrRobinTosh: you would remove the deskop package
[17:18] <rapha> ActionParsnip: thanks ... I got nothing even remotely big enough to hold that much data, but I'll just give it a try. If it's gone then it's gone.
[17:18] <DrRobinTosh> how?
[17:19] <zortec> DrRobinTosh: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[17:19] <DrRobinTosh> ah. how do i start up in command mode?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> DrRobinTosh: sudo apt-get --purge remove x11-common xorg     if you dont want any more desktop, gui apps
[17:19] <zortec> ActionParsnip: what is --purge do?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rapha: then what if the devices motor suddenly failed. where is your data then?
[17:20] <LabRaTz> jwm1: actually I just missed, it... so lspci will report your card.  It's shorter than the other way, so I'd recommend it.
[17:20] <scream> What is the command to use to find a file (search the filesystem)
[17:20] <scream> ?
[17:20] <ibuclaw> zortec, purge configuration
[17:20] <ibuclaw> zortec, from /etc
[17:20] <zortec> scream: find?
[17:20] <llutz> scream: find /path -name file
[17:20] <ibuclaw> scream, find, locate
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> zortec: gets rid of all the confog for the package (outside of $HOME) so if you reinstall you will get vanilla configs
[17:20] <shekhar> hello can someone tell me how to recover my fspot database after karmic upgrade? it's gone!
[17:20] <Iowan> ! noroot Guest32073
[17:20] <scream> hank you
[17:20] <scream> thank
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you will most likely have a lot of package configs flapping around doing nothing
[17:20] <jwm1> lab, i couldn't find out that way
[17:20] <Iowan> !noroot Guest32073
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can see them with: dpkg -l | grep ^rc
[17:21] <zortec> ActionParsnip: just by staying in the irc room all day, you learn a lot about linux in a short period of time
[17:21] <ibuclaw> ActionParsnip, true / not true. Configuration files are predetermined as the package is being built.
[17:21] <LabRaTz> jwm1: which way?  from the menu or from the terminal?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> zortec: to remove run: sudo dpkg -P packagename
i understood
[17:21] <jwm1> from the menu
[17:22] <LabRaTz> jwm1: use the terminal: type lspci at the prompt
[17:22] <zortec> cmp: I'm not sure where you're at, do you have a terminal window open?
[17:22] <zortec> cmp: you can't just be saying my name and not give me any idea of what you have done :)
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> ibuclaw: there are latent config files in /etc etc which are not removed in a normal remove --purge removes them
[17:22] <zortec> ActionParsnip: doesn't that depend on the package was built and installed?
[17:23] <zortec> ActionParsnip: or is that true for all packages?
[17:23] <jwm1> Lab :  "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[17:23] <cmp> i have copied what you told me (  /usr/bin/firefox -safe-mode ) and it opend the firefox ... and yes iam still on the terminal window  zortec.
[17:23] <ibuclaw> zortec, any package that unpacks files into /etc
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> zortec: just all the configs relating to the package are removed
[17:24] <damjanzg> in what folder firefox storing bookmarks
[17:24] <ibuclaw> as list-able via dpkg -L
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> damjanzg: ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:24] <roy_1> Hi! How can I change the login sounds in karmic?
[17:24] <rapha> ActionParsnip: is it possible that gparted doesn't work on USB disks? When the partition is mounted I can understand that it can't be modified, but when I unmount it then gparted complains that it can't read the data in the partition...
[17:24] <zortec> cmp: with the terminal window open, check your mem usage of firefox and see if it was a problem with one of the addons?
[17:24] <ibuclaw> roy_1, initial login? with some difficulty. ;)
[17:24] <LabRaTz> jwm1: right.  well, unfortunately I have no experience with that card.  But the trick is to find out if it has a gui frontend to change settings.  You can do this through software center under Applications, or through Synaptic under System>Administration
[17:25] <roy_1> ibuclaw: How?
[17:25] <zortec> cmp: so what you are doing is comparing when you had firefox open with addons running and firefox open with no addons
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rapha: sure, a disk is a disk
[17:25] <shekhar> hi folks can anyone help me with fspot problem? my db has disappeared after upgrading to karmic
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rapha: you dont use gparted to read the data, you use it to resize the partition
[17:25] <jwm1> so a GUI for an ATI controller?
[17:25] <piper69> i am getting this error trying to install a fresh ubuntu 9.10 "The panel encounterd a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME Panel_Trash_Applete" delete /dont delete
[17:25] <chris231989> i've used gparted on usb drives
[17:25] <nameless`> hi
[17:25] <dimi> folks, I'm using a Dell Mini10 running ubuntu, and something changed recently, as I'm trying to install libusplash-dev but it's complaining about
[17:25] <dimi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:25] <dimi>   libusplash-dev: Depends: libusplash0 (= 0.5.19netbook3) but 0.5.19netbook4 is to be installed
[17:25] <dimi> eam: Broken packages
[17:25] <FloodBot2> dimi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <nameless`> i try to get the input of my microphone
[17:26] <nameless`> but it doesn't work, i do cat /dev/audio but it is always the same character (black one)
[17:26] <robin0800> rapha: disk utility can do that I think
[17:26] <LabRaTz> jwm1: 'gui' means 'graphic user interface', basically an easier way for new users to change things in the machine.  It gives you a window to use, instead of a terminal.
[17:26] <ibuclaw> roy_1, haven't had a chance to test it yet. But for the sound as you are "Logging Into" your account, you go into Sound Properties.
[17:26] <Iowan> !wfm
[17:26] <rapha> ActionParsnip: Î know that. But that's what it says "can't read data on partition".
[17:26] <dimi> is anyone aware of this problem, and how can it be fixed?
[17:27] <jwm1> labratz, that I understand, but do I have an ATI card or nvidia ?
[17:27] <AegNuddel> Is there any way to either change the size of what is inside windows or add scrollbars to applications on ubuntu?  There are some that son't fit completely on my screen...
[17:27] <piper69> and also i am getting the error for "OAFIID:GNOME _IndicatorApplete" what shall i do
[17:27] <rapha> oh well
[17:27] <ibuclaw> roy_1, for the Initial screen, it is the same process, but you load the sound properties in a slightly different way.
[17:27] <rapha> maybe i can find myself another disk on the attic
[17:27] <LabRaTz> jwm1: you have Intel, so you need to search for intel graphics in either Synaptic or Software Center
[17:27] <jwm1> thank you
[17:27] <roy_1> ibuclaw: There's no such property available on the login screen.
[17:27] <coz_> dimi,   what are you trying to install?
[17:28] <LabRaTz> jwm1: no prob
[17:28] <ibuclaw> roy_1, hence why I said "with some difficulty" ;)
[17:28] <cankoy> dimi: synaptic ->edit->fix broken
[17:28] <alabd> can we use gcj to run java applets or  not ?
[17:28] <dimi> coz_: libusplash-dev
[17:29] <roy_1> But in earlier versions it was easily configurable from the "desktop "login preferences".
[17:29] <coz_> dimi,  mmm let me check here
[17:29] <dimi> it worked afew days ago...
[17:29] <ibuclaw> roy_1, gdm 2.24 and later versions have been a complete rewrite
[17:29] <dimi> I think the dep is broken:
[17:29] <dimi> libusplash-dev: Depends: libusplash0 (= 0.5.19netbook3) but 0.5.19netbook4 is to be installed
[17:29] <dimi> shouldn't that be >= 0.5.19netbook3 maybe?
[17:30] <piper69> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_IndicatorApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration? please help
[17:30] <coz_> dimi,  ok it installed here.... are you in synaptic?
[17:30] <roy_1> ibuclaw:  yep, not very pleasant update :(
[17:30] <ibuclaw> roy_1, it is still configurable, just not quite as easy as it had been prior. Then again, as far as gnome devs are concerned, no one / not enough people have complained earlier.
[17:30] <coz_> dimi,  go to  Edit menu  ..  fix broken pacakges
[17:30] <cmp> zortec, how can i  make copy of what i have in my terminal and paste it to you ?
[17:31] <dr4g> I have a file DIR that's owned by "parliament:www-data" and my SVN Daemon is running as user 'www-data'. How to give the user www-data access to the DIR owned by "parliament:www-data"
[17:31] <dr4g> -
[17:31] <FloodBot2> dr4g: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <ibuclaw> so they just presume that it is all OK... that is not to say that a more advance configuration screen won't be made at a later date.
[17:31] <underdog7> does anyone know a decent linux-based program (for ubuntu) that does webpage creation?   i just want to make a couple of "external" pages for my blog -- nothing too fancy is needed.
[17:31] <llutz> !html | underdog7
[17:31] <SpArTa> issyl0,
[17:32] <underdog7> llutz: i'm much obliged.
[17:32] <roy_1> From grub2 to login/sounds etc... it's all very very messy. It's really not very usable out-of-the-box.
[17:32] <q0_0p> how do i add karmic repositories in order to solve dependencies?
[17:32] <Iowan> Guest31478:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo What I can't say is here...
[17:32] <q0_0p> finding all the packages for libgtk2.0-0 are too many
[17:33] <q0_0p> and dependencies
[17:33] <cmp> Zortec,  ?
[17:33] <LabRaTz> random note for the whole channel: in case anyone running Karmic is having trouble saving playlists in VLC, you need to install qt4-qtconfig and change to Clearlooks.
[17:33] <cmp>  zortec, how can i  make copy of what i have in my terminal and paste it to you ?
[17:33] <dimi> coz_: I tried that, it didn't work
[17:33] <q0_0p> !repos
[17:33] <dimi> how is "Fix broken..." supposed to work?
[17:33] <DrRobinTosh> hello all, can some one help me write a man 5 interfaces file for my static IP 10.1.1.69
[17:34] <cankoy> q0_0p: what are you trying to do?
[17:34] <q0_0p> cankoy, install devede
[17:34] <Iowan> Guest32073:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo What I can't say is here...
[17:34] <q0_0p> cankoy, telling me i have dependency problems
[17:34] <cankoy> q0_0p: use the repo
[17:34] <DrRobinTosh> ...
[17:35] <q0_0p> cankoy, i dont have the repo
[17:35] <coz_> dimi,   mmm  that should have taken care of it
[17:35] <ibuclaw> roy_1, this is how you would do so. http://paste.ubuntu.com/328644/plain/
[17:35] <cankoy> q0_0p: official ubuntu repos have it
[17:35] <ibuclaw> roy_1, that would start a sound applet at login ;)
[17:35] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: look at /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples
[17:35] <ibuclaw> from there you should be able to configure startup sound.
[17:35] <ibuclaw> at least. I "presume"
[17:36] <DrRobinTosh> llutz IM A MOOB
[17:36] <DrRobinTosh> NOOB*
[17:36] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: but you can read
[17:36] <DrRobinTosh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328646/
[17:36] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: and setting up things needs lot of reading on *nix-systems
[17:36] <cankoy> q0_0p: start Synaptic and search devede
[17:36] <roy_1> ibuclaw: Thanks :)
[17:36] <q0_0p> cankoy, i want a newer version of devede
[17:36] <q0_0p> cankoy, but can't since my ubuntu is older than the new
[17:37] <forceflow> anybody an idea why I get a bus error when trying to compile a C++ program in Ubuntu ? Ubuntu is running in a virtualmachine
[17:37] <ibuclaw> roy_1, I wrote a guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333683
[17:37] <cmp> if not zortec, can any one tell me how to paste my terminal here so i can show you my problem ?
[17:37] <ibuclaw> roy_1, it's not as complete as I'd like it yet though ;)
[17:37] <cankoy> q0_0p: karmic has the latest devede
[17:37] <DrRobinTosh> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/328646/
[17:38] <q0_0p> cankoy, that's y i'm trying to find the repos for karmic
[17:38] <roy_1> ibuclaw:  Wow. That's awesome! I"ll print those right away :D
[17:38] <cankoy> q0_0p: what release are you running?
[17:38] <q0_0p> cankoy, 8.04
[17:38] <dimi> coz_: I think I figured out how to downgrade libusplash0 to prev version, that should fix it.
[17:39] <ibuclaw> llutz, I haven't tested that link!
[17:39] <AegNuddel> I know it's a weird question (and I ask because I want to see the bottom of the programs--no can't do it on Windows, so if Linux can, ANOTHER good point about it...)Is there any way to either change the size of what is inside windows or add scrollbars to applications on ubuntu?  There are some that son't fit completely on my screen...
[17:39] <llutz> drrob1: http:///paste.ubuntu.com/328650
[17:39] <coz_> dimi,   ok although that doesnt sound like the best solution  since libusplash.dev installed here on karmic
[17:39] <ibuclaw> wait ... I'm blind
[17:39] <llutz> ibuclaw: eh, what link?
[17:39] <Guest81863> hmm
[17:40] <llutz> DrRobinTosh: http:///paste.ubuntu.com/328650
[17:40] <cankoy> q0_0p: there's a .deb in rastersoft's web site, did you try it?
[17:40] <q0_0p> cankoy, dependency problems
[17:40] <ibuclaw> llutz, nvm, got the pastebin number confused with mine. ;)
[17:40] <llutz> ok
[17:40] <DrRobin> llutz, ty
[17:41] <q0_0p> cankoy, missing libgtk2.0-0
[17:41] <q0_0p> cankoy, and more
[17:42] <cankoy> q0_0p: your libgtk is not missing, but probably very old. Why don't you upgrade your ubuntu?
[17:43] <q0_0p> cankoy, didn't want to ruin backtrack4 >_<
[17:43] <cankoy> q0_0p: libgtk is a very fundamental lib of ubuntu, if that needs to be upgraded then you can install that .deb without upgrading your Ubuntu.
[17:43] <llutz> AegNuddel: read about "virtual" in xorg.conf
[17:43] <linfenix> someone know about a freebsd channel?
[17:44] <q0_0p> cankoy, how
[17:44] <od3n> any one have an idea on how I could stream net flix
[17:44] <cankoy> q0_0p: sorry, 'can't install...'
[17:44] <od3n> should I just run a VM of xp
[17:44] <linfenix> someone know about a freebsd channel?
[17:44] <q0_0p> cankoy, need libgtk2.0-0 but then that has dependencies after another.  take too long to find al packages
[17:45] <llutz> AegNuddel: that defines a bigger screen than your physical display, allows you to scroll around
[17:45] <boolean> afternoon
[17:45] <cankoy> q0_0p: that's what I'm saying, it almost will make you upgrade your whole Ubuntu system.
[17:45] <AegNuddel> ah
[17:45] <q0_0p> cankoy, ah
[17:46] <Iowan> linfenix: ##bsd?
[17:46] <AegNuddel> trying to read a bit before have to head off to Thanksgiving
[17:46] <boolean> question: for ubuntu server 8.04, is it still to risky to resize2fs a mounted LVM ?
[17:46] <llutz> AegNuddel: 1st info: man xorg.conf (virtual x y)
[17:46] <q0_0p> cankoy, makes sense
[17:46] <linfenix> Iowan, thanks...
[17:47] <kevdog> Iowan: You here?
[17:47] <Iowan> Yup
[17:47] <Iowan> kevdog: yup
[17:48] <kevdog> Iowan:  Good to know you found your way here from the forums :)
[17:49] <Iowan> kevdog: I still have forums window onen, too
[17:49] <espire> Hi all; I am on a Mac and would like to install Ubuntu without burning the iso. Is there a way to copy the iso to a partition on an external hard drive and boot from that?
[17:50] <datz> Hi, I'm trying to change the boot order using ubuntu 9.10
[17:50] <q0_0p> espire, if u grub2 i think u can boot the iso from it
[17:51] <q0_0p> espire, not sure
[17:51] <espire> hmm
[17:51] <AegNuddel> hmm not sure how to use it though
[17:51] <espire> first I will see if my university's CS club has discs
[17:51] <AegNuddel> got the information on it
[17:52] <DrRobin> BRB
[17:52] <mataks> how to install the latest kernel modules in 9.04 in terminal? what's the command.
[17:53] <mataks> i've been trying to isntall a driver but i get this error.. the drivers cannot be installed wothout the latest kernel modules... .. now what's the command in terminal to get the latest kernel modules
[17:54] <rgr> espire: why dont you want to burn the iso?
[17:54] <espire> rgr: lack of working burner
[17:54] <rgr> and you are at university on a CS course?
[17:54] <espire> CS major
[17:55] <espire> why would I need a burner for that?
[17:55] <rgr> and no one has a burner? bummer ....
[17:55] <espire> well people do
[17:55] <espire> but I'd rather do it myself
[17:55] <espire> anyway, the CS club indeed has copies
[17:57] <trism> espire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation without a CD (various methods for installing without a hard drive, for future reference)
[17:57] <jad> hello
[17:57] <jad> some help plz
[17:57] <trism> espire: err, I mean cd drive
[17:58] <hiemanshu> Does Ubuntu Live CD have a fromiso or from_iso kernel parameter so I dont have to burn a CD
[17:58] <AegNuddel> Santa Claus does SO exist!  He's right there at the end of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade!
[17:58] <espire> thanks trism
[17:58] <cankoy> mataks: which driver are you tryin to install?
[17:58] <datz> trism: I'm looking for that file required to change boot order agian, method used yesterday didn't work.
[17:58] <trism> datz: did you sudo update-grub after you renamed it?
[17:58] <datz> trism: actually, no
[17:59] <Wiseman> Halp!  Virtualbox all of a sudden stopped working!  When I try to open it, nothing happens.  How do I figure out what went wrong?
[17:59] <datz> I'll try that I suppose
[17:59] <trism> datz: yeah, that command updates /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which is what grub reads
[17:59] <cankoy> Wiseman: /join #vbox
[18:00] <trism> datz: the file I mentioned yesterday was /etc/default/grub, which allows you to change various grub menu options
[18:00] <Yoyahack> ola
[18:00] <robin0800> datz: change /etc/default /grub            first
[18:00] <sylvain_> i have some problem with sound volume, each time i restart me my pc the volume is umuted xubuntu 9.10
[18:00] <Wiseman> cankoy: ok
[18:00] <Yoyahack> Algun prograama recomendable para capturar video de pantalla en ubuntu
[18:00] <epinky> !es | Yoyahack
[18:01] <Yoyahack> oka
[18:01] <Yoyahack> thanks
[18:01] <Wiseman> cankoy: nobody seems to be in vbox
[18:01] <jackey> please help me how to naim
[18:01] <jad> i have a friend who installed ubuntu 9.10 and he got a peculiar situation: it installed well but he couldn't install anything new, either through the software center, synaptic were it was just listing installed packages or through apt-get
[18:01] <jad> help plz
[18:02] <noise_> how to hack a facebook account ?
[18:02] <Delano-394980501> Is there any way I can set up something in gnome's "startup manager" and make it so it starts only in gnome and not KDE?
[18:02] <trism> jad: did you sudo apt-get update (or click the reload button in synaptic)
[18:02] <Iowan> noise: wrong channel?
[18:02] <jad> yeah
[18:02] <noise_> maby no
[18:03] <espire> noise_: torture the account owner for his/her password
[18:03] <Monocian> jad is his password correct?
[18:03] <noise_> nice idea
[18:03] <neo2> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu, just upgraded 9.4 to 9.10 and programs running in wine have minimal graphics any help would be appreciated
[18:03] <badman> !offtopic | _noise
[18:04] <jad> thx trism, i used apt-get update and worked fine
[18:04] <Delano-394980501> Anyone?
[18:04] <_CommandeR_> any good IDE for c# for Ubuntu ?
[18:05] <noise_> any one for engineering physics?
[18:05] <llutz> !ot | noise_
[18:06] <epinky> jad: multiverse and universe enabled?
[18:06] <luist> hey how do i mount an img file?
[18:07] <llutz> luist: sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt
[18:07] <llutz> luist: if its not iso, convert it before
[18:07] <debuggerboy> _CommandeR_: http://projects.gnome.org/anjuta
[18:07] <luist> llutz: its not an .iso but a .mnt
[18:07] <luist> llutz: sry... not .mnt.. i meant .img
[18:07] <kostkon> _CommandeR_, for c#, monodevelop
[18:08] <kernel_geek> Help ! My server is on 192.168.0.5 it runs appache and ssh. I cannot access it from my network or internet, I cold before... I can access services locally from the server... No firewall... Whats going on ? Have tried many machines in network
[18:08] <Chriz213123> whats the smallest ubuntu can install in?
[18:08] <Chriz213123> is 1gb enough?
[18:08] <AegNuddel> how do I even use the x.org thing?
[18:08] <_CommandeR_> kostkon i have eclipse with mono plugin but never got how to design the gui..
[18:08] <kernel_geek> Chriz:Yes, just
[18:08] <[USO]remus_decea> cs_uso
[18:08] <sylvain_> I have problem with sound level everytime i restart xubuntu 9.10 the sound come mute again, please help me
[18:09] <AegNuddel> nm I gtg
[18:09] <kostkon> _CommandeR_, ok
[18:10] <Chriz213123> i have 3gb of ram can i skip creating swap?
[18:10] <Subby> can xchat fade out join and leave etc. messages?
[18:11] <epinky> Chriz213123: yes you can
[18:11] <tsimpson> Subby: it can hide joins/parts
[18:11] <Chriz213123> epinky, it won't let me go to the next without assigning a swap partition iirc i was trying last night
[18:12] <epinky> Chriz213123: create 1MB swap space then
[18:12] <Subby> epinky:  is swap not needed for any case? so i have to deactivate it too, with 12 gig ram ;)
[18:12] <Chriz213123> epinky, can it be an extended partition or does it have to be a primary partition?
[18:12] <Subby> epinky:  e.g on windows some programms needed swap to run also if there was enough ram
[18:12] <mikunos> hi guys is there a way to connect my ubuntu to a VPN?
[18:12] <Subby> tsimpson:  how ;)
[18:12] <tsimpson> Chriz213123: it can be on an extended partition
[18:13] <epinky> Chriz213123: primary is better
[18:13] <tsimpson> Subby: right click the channel
[18:13] <llutz> Chriz213123: no need for primary
[18:13] <Chriz213123> epinky, well i am out of primary partitions damn u xp ^_^
[18:13] <Subby> tsimpson:  oh thanks didn't realize that :)
[18:13] <llutz> Chriz213123: no need for primary, don't worry
[18:13] <sylvain_> someone can help me with sound problem,please
[18:14] <debuggerboy> sylvain_ : I dont know if this will work or not, try #sudo alsamixer
[18:14] <mikunos> any help?
[18:14] <llutz> if the installer insists on creating swap-partitions, it should be fixed
[18:14] <sylvain_> i do this before and nothing change
[18:15] <mataks> how to use the generice driver for graphic card .. what to type in terminal?
[18:16] <wayn1> Hello, can someone help me with a /etc/apt/sources.list error.  i get an ifstream::ifstream permission denied error.
[18:16] <Elirips> Hello. I would like to extract a rar-archive, but if i click on it, it says "there is no application installed for rar archive files". But i have unrar and rar installed, what else am I missing?
[18:16] <xZera> Eltrips: try to change the file as *.zip :)
[18:17] <epinky> mikunos: what type of VPN? use network manager or pptpconf
[18:17] <xZera> and then open
[18:17] <mikunos> epinky the "Add" button is disabled
[18:17] <jonrafkind> how do I file a bug? when I goto bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and click "report a bug" it sends me to a help page. where is the web interface for sending bug reports?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> Elirips, in the terminal: rar -e filename
[18:18] <Slart> !bug | jonrafkind
[18:18] <dAlfa89_> Elirips: You can also right-click the file and extract like normal, the only thing it complains about is a lag of viewer, not extracter
[18:18] <Subby> wayn1:  does sources.list and apt-conf have the right permissions?
[18:18] <epinky> mikunos: is the applet installed?
[18:19] <Slart> jonrafkind: not sure if one of those links contains any better help.. but give them a try
[18:19] <h4f> Gnome panel  is in a mess after restart ? even if I place icons in their places and lock them up. any solutions ?
[18:19] <wayn1> not sure, it worked before and just started not working how do I find out.
[18:19] <jonrafkind> ok il just use ubuntu-bug
[18:19] <Elirips> dAlfa89_, if I do a rightclick I dont have an extract menu
[18:19] <Elirips> BluesKaj, thanks, in the console it works
[18:19] <Subby> wayn1:  ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list    and ls -al /etc/apt/apt.conf
[18:19] <mataks> how to install the open source driver for intel graphic card
[18:19] <Subby> wayn1:   should be both rw-r--r--  root:root
[18:19] <frog> hi i have just noticed, taht i have neither /etc/asound.conf nor ~/.asoundrc:
[18:20] <Elirips> What is the package that is the extracter for gnome?
[18:20] <frog> i have had it
[18:20] <Elirips> Maybe I dont have that one installed
[18:20] <frog> what could be the reason
[18:20] <debuggerboy> Elirips : gnome file roller
[18:20] <mikunos> epinky yes it is I can see all connection types
[18:20] <h4f> Gnome panel  is in a mess after restart ? even if I place icons in their places and lock them up. any solutions ?
[18:20] <epinky> mikunos: sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp
[18:21] <jad> h4f, what ubuntu u using ?
[18:21] <mikunos> epinky ok installed
[18:21] <frog> and my sound is crashing. i can remember i have commented pulseaudio out once, but i duno where. now the sound apps are crashing. amarok doesnt start. and flash in firefox is crashing oft too
[18:21] <h4f> jad:  9.10 but had same problem in 9.04. now I am just pissed of and raising this question
[18:21] <epinky> mikunos: relaunch network manager and try again
[18:22] <Elirips> debuggerboy, thanks. I was missing that package
[18:22] <Elirips> anyway, I think I'm missing a lot of the gnome "standard" things
[18:22] <mikunos> ok epinky now the Add button is active!
[18:22] <h4f> jad: do you  have similar issue ?
[18:22] <jad> are u changing resolutions by any chance ?
[18:22] <Elirips> Is there a metapackage I can install to get all the default gnome-stuff?
[18:22] <mikunos> epinky I'm trying to set the parameters
[18:23] <Subby> wayn1:  ?
[18:23] <wayn1> i don't think i have the correct permissions.  under owner it's read and write and none under root and others.   and I can't find the /etc/apt/apt.congif
[18:23] <mikunos> epinky I have these parameters: {pptp IP, userid, passwd}
[18:24] <Subby> wayn1:  apt.conf not config
[18:24] <wayn1> under /etc/apt/ i have one folder apt.config.d and no files.
[18:24] <wayn1> sorry i mean i have apt.conf.d folder and no files
[18:24] <h4f> h4f:(08:22:20 PM) if this is to me. no I am not changing resolutions
[18:25] <h4f> jad:
[18:25] <debuggerboy> Elirips : I believe the metapackage for gnome is ubuntu-desktop.
[18:25] <Subby> wayn1:  just do a  sudo chmod 644 /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:25] <jad> what ?
[18:25] <Subby> wayn1:  and a sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:26] <Subby> wayn1:  probably that allready helps
[18:26] <Elirips> debuggerboy, great, thanks! I'v tried with gnome-desktop but that didnt work. May the "lock screen" button will come back now, that would be quite comfortable :P
[18:26] <wayn1> thank you so much.  that worked.
[18:27] <Subby> wayn1:  no problem :)  have fun
[18:27] <McL0VIN> what will be my root password, i didn't set any, ubuntu didn't ask me
[18:28] <x-Na> Anybody have any pointers where to start diggin, my desktop computer suspends itself properly once after boot, every attempt after that fails and it just wakes up right away without any good reason
[18:28] <debuggerboy> Elirips : please read http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-desktop
[18:28] <Subby> McL0VIN:  best is to use sudo
[18:28] <llutz> !root | McL0VIN
[18:28] <llutz> !sudo | McL0VIN
[18:29] <ahman231> i need help getting my resolution on the screen fixed i tried a few thing but dont know what else to try
[18:29] <epinky> McL0VIN: "sudo passwd root" (to set one)
[18:29] <Elirips> debuggerboy, thanks, i already installed ubuntu-desktop, things seem to be back to normal now. I guess I messed up a little with switching from kde to gnome and back a few times.. I just cant decide what I like more
[18:30] <debuggerboy> Elirips : I choose gnome, KDE is bulky
[18:31] <Razz27> gnome definitely better
[18:32] <magdato> hello, i installed ubuntu 9.10, but i cant use wifi, who can help me?
[18:32] <Elirips> debuggerboy, I wanted to test the new kde 4.2 (or was it 4.3?), it really looks nice, but it still had some bugs, so i'm back with gnome now
[18:32] <h4f>  Gnome panel  is in a mess after restart ? even if I place icons in their places and lock them up. any solutions ?
[18:33] <Delano-394980501> h4f, no, nothing you can do... it's one of gnome's many bugs
[18:33] <Elirips> debuggerboy, But I still like some apps really from kde, like kdevelop, kmail or kile, didnt find something "as good" (from my point of view) for gnome
[18:34] <McL0VIN> epinky: this is a little wried to me ! all linux first set the root password then you creat you own account
[18:34] <h4f> Delano-394980501: any workaround ? or something. its annoying me every time I restart
[18:34] <llutz> McL0VIN: ubuntu doesn,t
[18:35] <McL0VIN> llutz: i notice that
[18:35] <epinky> McL0VIN: were you a Redhat boy?
[18:35] <McL0VIN> i ve been a Debian slave since 1999
[18:36] <Elirips> McL0VIN, good old potato times :D
[18:36] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone
[18:36] <McL0VIN> my co- workers talked me into ubuntu, so far i am liking
[18:36] <llutz> McL0VIN: it's not that much different to debian
[18:37] <Subby> McL0VIN:  for what do you need the root password? or were you just wondering?
[18:37] <DjAngo23> I updated two Ubuntu computers, and while it was upgrading people did turn off the computers. I get now " Kernel Panic". What can i do to solve it ?
[18:37] <Elirips> i've using debian for ages too, but stable was too old, testing at the beginning very nice and new and unstable unstable. now i'm really happy with ubuntu - everything just worked for me out of the box
[18:37] <McL0VIN> llutz: more compatible thu
[18:38] <llutz> McL0VIN: depends on your needs/setups
[18:38] <Yoques> Hola!!!
[18:39] <McL0VIN> llutz: does ubuntu use same aptitude /apt
[18:39] <llutz> McL0VIN: yes
[18:39] <MFox> Yoques: HOLA!
[18:39] <McL0VIN> llutz: thanks mate
[18:39] <Yoques> Cómo se hace para que el sound juicer me extraiga música en formato mp3?
[18:39]  * McL0VIN looking for kismet
[18:39] <DjAngo23> When i' m doing  dpkg --configure -a : it respond to many errores
[18:40] <Yoques> He leido manuales, pero no me hablan más que de versiones anteriores, de Feisty Faun
[18:40] <llutz> McL0VIN: main differences imho are "disabled root" and "upstart"
[18:40] <Elirips> what you mean with upstart?
[18:40] <HilBilly> How do I change ubuntu from utf-8 to en_US.iso8859-1 ??
[18:40] <Yoques> wooo! English room... sorry...
[18:40] <epinky> !es | Yoques
[18:40] <Yoques> join ubuntu-es
[18:41] <BluesKaj> DjAngo23, try , sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[18:41] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, Thanks, gonna try that
[18:41] <llutz> HilBilly: init-daemon replacement
[18:41] <llutz> Elirips: : init-daemon replacement  sry
[18:42] <Elirips> llua, ah, didnt know about that
[18:43] <Elirips> HilBilly, maybe http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html didnt test it myself
[18:43] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, Nothing happens, no error, no nothing
[18:45] <BluesKaj> DjAngo23, ok now try to the commands or whatever gave you the original errors
[18:45] <Anthonyc> hi. Can anyone say how i change pointer/"waiting" icon in gnome?  i get a different icon in firefox
[18:45] <mikebeecham> guys...I have my Ubuntu box plugged into my router via these powerline ethernet plugs.  I noticed today that the network manager keeps bouncing up and down...similiar to seeing the connection drop up and down...but this is not wireless....can anyone help me understand what is happening?
[18:45] <debuggerboy> DjAngo23 : can you go though /var/log/kern.log, may be you could find what's going wrong !
[18:46] <Weezey> anyone built chromiumos ?
[18:47] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, I get the error when booting
[18:47] <TheTosh> god whats with all the quits
[18:48] <McL0VIN> anyone here using kismet
[18:48] <BluesKaj> DjAngo23, did you dpkg --configure -a /
[18:48] <iceroot> !anyone | McL0VIN
[18:48] <bostikforever> yep
[18:48] <TheTosh> McL0VIN, iv used the mac version, KisMac
[18:48] <bostikforever> wireless tool?
[18:49] <DjAngo23> debuggerboy, Out of memory , killed process. And nothing after that
[18:49] <McL0VIN> TheTosh: i want to use it for ubuntu and cant find it
[18:49] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, Trying
[18:49] <TheTosh> ahh
[18:49] <TheTosh> try BackTrack
[18:49] <llutz> McL0VIN: it's in universe repo
[18:49] <llutz> !info kismet
[18:50] <TheTosh> its a Distro built for that kind of thing
[18:50] <Archanamiya> Hello. I'm trying to write an application using Glade in Python, but when I made a file selection window in Glade, then ran it, there were no OK or Cancel buttons on the window. Anyone know why?
[18:51] <Random832> after resuming from hibernate I have several problems - cannot connect to non-WEP wireless networks, video is screwed up in text mode consoles, lsmod/rmmod/etc hang.
[18:51] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, dpkg: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments
[18:52] <Archanamiya> Hello. I'm trying to write an application using Glade in Python, but when I made a file selection window in Glade, then ran it, there were no OK or Cancel buttons on the window. Anyone know why?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> DjAngo23, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:52] <cankoy> Archanamiya: /join #gtk
[18:52] <Archanamiya> cankoy: k
[18:52] <TheTosh> Archanamiya, no need to repeate, we heard you first time
[18:52] <Archanamiya> sorry :S
[18:52] <TheTosh> np
[18:52] <TheTosh> :P
[18:53] <Archanamiya> :P
[18:54] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, dpkg: too many errors, stopping / Aborted
[18:55] <crazyivan> does anyone know what the name of the crunchbang linux channel is?
[18:55] <BluesKaj> DjAngo23, did you try a sudo apr-get update
[18:55] <BluesKaj> apt
[18:56] <sllide> the mixer i got is weird
[18:56] <TheTosh> how do i  install FTP on my Ubuntu server?
[18:56] <sllide> and it lowers the sound of my speakers
[18:56] <sllide> how can i change the mixer?
[18:56] <shentino> TT:  You want vsftpd I believe
[18:56] <llutz> TheTosh: sudo aptitude install <ftpd-of-your-choice>    and read its doumentation to configure it
[18:56] <Pizza> hello
[18:57] <Iowan> crazyivan: #crunchbang
[18:57] <Archanamiya> hi
[18:57] <DjAngo23> BluesKaj, I tryed, buyt : E: dpkg was interupted, you must manually run ' dpkg --configure.....
[18:57] <TheTosh> llutz, whats teh best FTP?
[18:57] <llutz> !best | TheTosh
[18:57] <crazyivan> Iowan, thanks man
[18:57] <Pizza> what's netbook remix ?
[18:57] <Pizza> ubuntu netbook remix
[18:57] <Archanamiya> Pizza: A version of Ubuntu that is optimal for small screens
[18:57] <livingdaylight> !netbook | Pizza
[18:57] <Archanamiya> Pizza: Noteably netbooks
[18:58] <Pizza> how can i run ubuntu from my flash thumb ?
[18:58] <llutz> TheTosh: you have a task, you have to decide which app fits best to it
[18:58] <dAlfa89_> !unr | Pizza
[18:58] <ctop> TheTosh: why are you using something as insecure as FTP
[18:58] <Archanamiya> Pizza: Google ;)
[18:58] <livingdaylight> !unetbootin
[18:58] <shentino> lol, bestbot was clueless
[18:58] <shentino> I put in a vote for vsftpd
[18:58] <TheTosh> i have never had a iussue with FTP
[18:58] <Archanamiya> XD
[18:58] <mikebeecham> guys...my network manager has disappeared on my panel...how can I get it back?
[18:59] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: Alt+F2->nm-applet
[18:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> mikebeecham, terminal → type 'nm-applet' hit enter
[18:59] <andybond13> If anyone can, I need help upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10, message me if you can
[18:59] <Pizza> thanks
[18:59] <mikebeecham> Archanamiya: nothing happened
[18:59] <calvst> hi, after upgrade, rebooting I got a 'mount of root filesystem failed'...help?
[19:00] <Pizza> livingdaylight i dont want to install ubuntu on my hdd, just run it from usb..
[19:00] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: I see. Well then, right click on panel, "Add Applet" and add "Notifications"
[19:00] <Subby> calvst:  is there probably a message with "Gave up waiting for..."
[19:00] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: If that doesn't work I still have 1 more option
[19:00] <mikebeecham> Archanamiya: Ha!   that worked
[19:00] <dAlfa89_> Pizza: See the second link ubottu gave you, the "Live USB" link
[19:01] <ctop> TheTosh: not saying ftp has issues. ftp is just really insecure. use ssh
[19:01] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: :D
[19:01] <anthonyc> Hi.  can anybody help me get the same mouse pointer inside and outside my browser windows? (gnome)
[19:01] <mikebeecham> but tell me...why would it have disappeared to begin with?  I did nothing
[19:01] <TheTosh> ctop, i need to learn alot of things :P
[19:01] <llutz> ctop: there's ftps too
[19:01] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: Happened to me once before ;)
[19:01] <Pizza> dAlfa89_ ok
[19:01] <livingdaylight> Pizza, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:01] <mikebeecham> Archanamiya: ahhh
[19:01] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: I don't know. But oh well. You got it back at least :D
[19:01] <calvst> Subby, no, just "A maintenance shell will now be started"
[19:01] <Pizza> thansk
[19:01] <mikebeecham> Archanamiya: absolutely...thanks mate
[19:02] <calvst> Subby, and enter root pw to drop to root shell
[19:02] <Archanamiya> mikebeecham: np :D
[19:02] <debuggerboy> bye guys!
[19:02] <ctop> llutz:yep
[19:02] <livingdaylight> how can i convert .mp4 to .avi?
[19:02] <Subby> calvst:  hmm okay, because I had a problem with a dissapeared UUID for my root partition...
[19:03] <Archanamiya> livingdaylight: avidemux, ffmpeg
[19:03] <Subby> calvst:  and there was the message I mentioned...
[19:03] <andybond13> If anyone can, I need help upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
[19:03] <livingdaylight> Archanamiya, is that with gui, or command line only?
[19:03] <Archanamiya> livingdaylight: ffmpeg if you don't mind the command line
[19:03] <Archanamiya> livingdaylight: ffmpeg is still easy even from command line
[19:03] <livingdaylight> Archanamiya, i'm very dumb, and have windows mentality
[19:04] <pickett> avidemux
[19:04] <Archanamiya> livingdaylight: ill PM you
[19:04] <livingdaylight> Archanamiya, it is 2010 almost, can i just point and click to convert to something else?
[19:04] <Archanamiya> that's okay
[19:04] <mzawieska> hello happy thanks giving to everyone
[19:04] <livingdaylight> ok
[19:04] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, well ,you can live up to your nick by learning  few easy terminal commands :)
[19:04] <livingdaylight> !usb | Pizza
[19:04] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj, touche!
[19:05] <llutz> livingdaylight: if you really think GUIs are modern and efficient, you still have to learn a lot :)
[19:05] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, :)
[19:05] <Pizza> livingdaylight thank you very much man
[19:05] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj, i'm not too dumb in other areas of life... but i dont have computer smarts
[19:06] <livingdaylight> llutz, yea, gui is where its at, ask any mac or windows user
[19:06] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, stick around , you'll learn :)
[19:07] <Spruit_elf> can someone help me fix my problems with, i presume pulseaudio? all htpc applications i try keep crashing since karmic
[19:07] <mzawieska> I am getting this error when the linux is loading http://pastebin.com/d7764a504
[19:07] <mzawieska> idk what to do
[19:07] <mzawieska> http://pastebin.com/d7764a504
[19:08] <calvst> Subby,  bad line in /etc/fstab...
[19:08] <jefelex> n=jefelex@rock.com
[19:09] <mzawieska> any help?
[19:09] <jefelex> try removing pulse and see what happens
[19:10] <mzawieska> http://pastebin.com/d7764a504 please help with the error I am getting when ubuntu is loading
[19:10] <noelferreira> is there any know incompatibility between deluge torrent and firefox? any time i have both programs running i am not able get any data from internet via firefox.
[19:11] <Subby> calvst:  okay so its not a bad thing... :)
[19:11] <jefelex> is it your router?  I have problems with my router when both programs are running
[19:11] <andybond13> can anyone help me upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:11] <shankao> noelferreira, try limit your to limit your upload, open connections in the torrent program
[19:12] <noelferreira> jefelex, i think is the router ya
[19:12] <noelferreira> shankao, i have it limited (at least the upload) should i have the download as well?
[19:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, did the system work before? or is this a fresh install
[19:12] <shankao> noelferreira, try it :)
[19:13] <noelferreira> jefelex, did you manage to fix the problem?
[19:13] <shankao> noelferreira, but max connections number can affect as well
[19:13] <noelferreira> shankao, how much should i have?
[19:13] <zortec> hi guys, I still can't boot into jaunty so don't know what is going on and I tightened the screws on my cd-rom and it sounds like it's chomping data when it's reading... is that normal?
[19:13] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, it worked before
[19:14] <shankao> noelferreira, don't know, if I were you would start with a low value and check my connection, then raise that value
[19:14] <noelferreira> ok thanks
[19:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, are you using grub or grub2?
[19:14] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, i fresh installed the ubuntu..i was using it for couple of days but then one day i tried to turn on the laptop and it showed me this screen
[19:14] <mzawieska> hold on let me tell u cause its asking me to choose
[19:14] <epinky> andybond13: what is the problem? , did you read this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading ?
[19:15] <kjele> How to send files with empathy?
[19:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, is it ubuntu Karmin 9.10?
[19:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> karmic*
[19:15] <Bookman> I ssh into a remote machine, start evolution and add an account.  Then close it.  When the user opens evolution the account is no longer there!  What gives?
[19:15] <mzawieska> yess its 9.10
[19:15] <ben64_> 'ello
[19:15] <rvn> i installed vlc on my 9.10 box here, and tried 6 different commercial dvds and they all wont play with strange errors in the console
[19:15] <rvn> i use VLc for everything
[19:15] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, its grub just grub
[19:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, try update-usplash-theme
[19:16] <andybond13> epinky: yes, for the network upgrade, my upgrader doesn;t list 9.10 as an option; I also downloaded and mounted the iso, but auto-start install dialog didn't happen.  I run "gksu 'sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade'" and nothing happens
[19:16] <Guest49822> just installed ubuntu on a guy's laptop. .. it came with vista, the hard drive failed, he couldn't find his vista disk from dell.
[19:16] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, just type the command right?
[19:16] <ben64_> i has a problem -- i'm on karmic, and when i connect to wirelesses, it grabs dns info from dhcp. How can I set a static dns to be used on all connections all the time, always?
[19:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, yes
[19:16] <Guest49822> threw a few things onto his desktop. xchat (with the "in case you need support" notation)
[19:17] <llutz> ben64_: edit dhcp-clients config
[19:17] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, it said installed themes
[19:17] <Guest49822> a poker game, world of goo demo. a link to pandora radio. shortcut to ubuntu software center
[19:17] <Guest49822> any other suggestions?
[19:17] <epinky> andybond13: Does "sudo do-release-upgrade" not work either?
[19:17] <kjele> How to send files in empathy?
[19:17] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, good, now reboot
[19:17] <rvn> ben64_: u could do that in wicd iirc, it's a replacement for the normal network manager
[19:17] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, restart right?
[19:17] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, 'sudo reboot'
[19:17] <ben64_> llutz, where is that
[19:17] <andybond13> epinky: no new release found
[19:18] <robin0800> rvn: you may need to install a dvd decryptior see restricted extras for what you need
[19:18] <rvn> thanks ill look in tere
[19:18] <llutz> ben64_: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (jaunty)
[19:18] <rvn> ive never had this trouble in 8.xx ubuntu
[19:18] <rvn> so it caught me by surprise
[19:18] <Guest49822> lost in the flux of constant chatter in here?
[19:18] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, the same problem
[19:19] <kjele> How to send files in empathy?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Guest49822, did you delete windows or just make a linux ext partition and instal?
[19:19] <ben64_> llutz, alright, then how do i set a static dns
[19:19] <noelferreira> jefelex, reducing both upload and download bandwith and the max number of conections solved my problem.
[19:19] <rickybobby> BluesKaj, his hard drive failed. i installed a new drive and ubuntu only
[19:19] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:19] <rickybobby> BluesKaj, i don't have a vista disk sittin around for em.
[19:19] <andybond13> epinky: my "About Ubuntu" says 'Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 9.04
[19:19] <andybond13>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.'
[19:19] <llutz> ben64_: define it in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:19] <rickybobby> so he'll be thrown into ubuntu head first.
[19:20] <ben64_> llutz, or just remove the request for dns servers, and edit resolv.conf and it won't be replaced by the network manager?
[19:20] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, ok, do "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[19:20] <ubuntu> is there a way to control cd-rom drive speed in ubuntu?
[19:20] <noelferreira> shankao, thanks i think it was the max number of conections by second in each torrent. now it is ok. i guess :)
[19:20] <BluesKaj> rickybobby, he probly won't miss it after a few days on linux , unless he's a gamer
[19:20] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, okay second
[19:20] <ubuntu> my drive is very loud and reads at 48x... so I want to reduce the speed
[19:20] <shankao> noelferreira, you're welcome
[19:20] <rvn> robin0800: i am used to using the command line for getting my apps, and am not familiar with synaptic, so i am not sure where to look for restricted extras
[19:20] <Riaku> crud :/
[19:21] <llutz> ben64_: should work,maybe consider to use "supersede d-n-s"
[19:21] <jefelex> noelferriera,  I just ignore the problem - doesn't bother me that much anyway
[19:21] <rickybobby> BluesKaj, he plays his xbox 360 and.. hosts poker games at his house.. thats about it afaik.. think i should rearrange the panels to be more windows-esq ?
[19:21] <PinziRC> hello !
[19:21] <PinziRC> !list
[19:21] <ubuntu> llutz: I still can't boot into jaunty, grub is not even coming up so I don't know what I have done
[19:21] <epinky> andybond13: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[19:21] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, okay i am in file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:21] <BluesKaj> rvn , just make sure you have the medibuntu repos for the media stuff
[19:21] <robin0800> rvn: just type restricted in the search bar
[19:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, you will see several kernel lines further down in the editor, each having a line like this : "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro quiet splash" change it so that it only says "ro" : "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro"
[19:22] <Riaku> so uh... is it possible to get help here or is this not the right type of channel?
[19:22] <ghostman> Don`t use gentoo!
[19:22] <ben64_> Riaku, this is supposed to be a help channel
[19:22] <llutz> ubuntu: are you sure you installed grub into MBR?
[19:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, after the change do ctrl+x , and press 'Y' to confirm changes
[19:22] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, I dont see anything its empty
[19:23] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, type sudo fdisk -l
[19:23] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, exit nano, with ctrl+x
[19:23] <ghostman> Don´t use gentoo!
[19:23] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, then type 'sudo fdisk -l'
[19:23] <andybond13> epinky: it updated some stuff, but its done.  maybe 30mb total
[19:24] <andybond13> epinky: I think 9.10 would be bigger/longer
[19:24] <BluesKaj> rickybobby, well kde is more windows like panel at the bottom etc , Kmenu etc,
[19:24] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, okay i am in here
[19:24] <epinky> andybond13: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[19:24] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, does it list all you harddrives as it should?
[19:25] <ubuntu> all of the changes I made in the menu.lst file are still there, does anyone have any ideas as I would like to get back into ubuntu?
[19:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, also, have you tried booting from different kernels?
[19:25] <llutz> ubuntu: are you sure you installed grub into MBR?
[19:25] <ghostman> Don´t use gentoo!
[19:25] <llutz> ghostman: stop that
[19:25] <jefelex> I still like 8.10 - no problems
[19:25] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, yea i think so /dev/sdb1 start 1 syste, hpfs/ntfs
[19:25] <andybond13> epinky: already the newest version
[19:25] <ubuntu> llutz: weird, it is zortec but my name is ubuntu that is why I didn't know who you were talking to
[19:25] <ubuntu> llutz: sorry
[19:26] <epinky> andybond13: mmmm, then it's updated :)
[19:26] <llutz> ubuntu: /nick zortec
[19:26] <ibuclaw> zortec, what's failed? are you in liveCD ?
[19:26] <jefelex> gotta fly - bye now!
[19:26] <josvuk> hello, I have still no beep from the terminal with printf("\a");
[19:26] <josvuk> I uncommended load-sample-dir-lazy x11-bee ..... and load-module-x11-bell in the /etc/pulse/default.pa loged out and again in
[19:26] <josvuk> [20:22] <josvuk> But still don't have a beep.
[19:26] <zortec> llutz: I am in the liveCD right now
[19:26] <josvuk> [20:22] <josvuk> Waht can I do?
[19:26] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, when it ask me its ubuntu linux 2.6.31-14-generic and second ubuntu same thing but (recovery mode_
[19:26] <llutz> zortec: ubuntu was at /dev/sda3, right?
[19:26] <Unirgy> hi, how do i make screen to proxy mouse events?
[19:27] <zortec> llutz: I set it to boot from the drive and "esc" doesn't work and it boots directly into windows
[19:27] <andybond13> epinky: doesn't look like it.  I don't have ubuntu one installed, still have the old login screen and boot screens, etc.
[19:27] <zortec> llutz: I just checked, it was /dev/sda3
[19:27] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, so recovery mode has the same problem?
[19:27] <llutz> zortec: lets try: open grub-shell "sudo grub" in terminal
[19:27] <mzawieska> its GNU GRUB version 1.97 beta4
[19:27] <epinky> andybond13: you need to log off, better reboot
[19:27] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, yupp
[19:27] <llutz> zortec: "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[19:27] <rickybobby> BluesKaj, not gonna bother installing KDE over ubuntu and i just burned my last disk so no burning a kubuntu iso
[19:27] <zortec> llutz: ok in the grub shell
[19:28] <llutz> zortec: should give something like (hd0,2)
[19:28] <zortec> llutz: yes
[19:28] <llutz> zortec: "root (hd0,2)"
[19:28] <Guest57027> how do i un gz a file?
[19:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, i have gotten your error message once before, and that was whan my usb drive went corrupt
[19:28] <Guest57027> HOW to un gz a file?
[19:28] <llutz> zortec: "setup (hd0)"
[19:28] <zortec> llutz: it gives (h0, 2)
[19:28] <rickybobby> BluesKaj, i'm an archlinux guy myself. and following it's philosophy i use openbox and keystrokes to do most my work.
[19:28] <zortec> llutz: that is it
[19:28] <ibuclaw> Guest57027, you can double click on it and extract.
[19:28] <llutz> zortec: "quit" and reboot then
[19:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, i can't really help
[19:28] <Guest57027> its in command
[19:29] <ibuclaw> Guest57027, in the terminal though - gunzip file.gz
[19:29] <zortec> llutz: reboot back into the live-cd?
[19:29] <rickybobby> Guest57027, sure it's not a .tar.gz ?
[19:29] <llutz> zortec: nope, grub "should" appear on reboot now
[19:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, try booting with a live-cd to see if you can rescue some files
[19:29] <Guest57027> nope
[19:29] <ibuclaw> Guest57027, think "zip" / "unzip" but with a 'g' infront.
[19:29] <llutz> zortec: so try booting from hdd
[19:29] <llutz> Guest57027: gunzip file
[19:30] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, so there is nothing i can do
[19:30] <zortec> llutz: we didn't make any changes and I booted from the hdd about 5 mins ago and grub didn't appear
[19:30] <Oins> Hi
[19:30] <Guest57027> yes llutz
[19:30] <llutz> zortec: you just wrote grub to mbr agein
[19:30] <llutz> again*
[19:30] <mzawieska> Supersaiyan_IV, reinstall the ubuntu?
[19:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> mzawieska, somebody else might now, ask again in the channel
[19:30] <zortec> llutz: is that what we did? I thought we were just checking something
[19:30] <Balsaq> need to install a correct driver. computer will play hulu videos, but in the full screen mode it plays slow. i cannot seem to install the correct driver?
[19:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> know* mzawieska i dont know of another solution than reinstall ubuntu
[19:30] <llutz> zortec: "setup (hd0)"    <- this writes grub into mbr
[19:30] <Monocian> How is Mythbuntu?
[19:31] <Balsaq> what is the procedure to install a driver into ubuntu
[19:31] <zortec> llutz: invalid device detected, sorry have not written grub into the mbr yet
[19:31] <Northern> Has anyone else been having problems with hulu/youtube or anything dealing with flash with not being able to hit buttons properly?
[19:31] <zortec> llutz: do you need quotes for that line?
[19:31] <mzawieska> can some help me with my error http://pastebin.com/d7764a504
[19:31] <NemesisD> hi guys. i am trying to set up 1 monitor in a dual monitor setup to be vertical, the other horizontal. i have found xinerama does NOT like compiz. i have it set up with twinview now but i have noticed these weird issues: I have a different set of panels on the horizontal monitor now and compositing *only* works on the vertical monitor. could anyone help out?
[19:31] <llutz> zortec: no quotes
[19:32] <NemesisD> if i try to for example drag a window to the right monitor, it just scrolls to the next virtual desktop on my left one, yet my mouse can cross between monitors
[19:32] <zortec> llutz:  not sure I'm doing the command right, it's saying invalid device requested and unrecognized device string
[19:33] <zortec> so it would be setup (hd0,2)?
[19:33] <cankoy> mzawieska: pastebin /etc/fstab and output of 'sudo blkid'
[19:33] <llutz> zortec: no, (hd0) = mbr
[19:33] <fantasticulous> hey any idea where I can get a high-res version of this image? http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/userfiles/xsplash-3.png
[19:33] <zortec> llutz: setup hd0?
[19:33] <fantasticulous> probably in /usr/share somewhere but I don't know where to look
[19:33] <llutz> zortec:  setup (hd0)
[19:33] <ibuclaw> llutz, (hd0) = disk1
[19:33] <mzawieska> cankoy, i dont understand?
[19:33] <Kuba> hi
[19:33] <zortec> llutz: that is not working
[19:34] <llutz> zortec: with brakcets
[19:34] <zortec> llutz: unrecognized device string
[19:34] <llutz> ibuclaw: sure
[19:34] <hal> hal9000
[19:34] <Kuba> Is there any way to disable admin password prompt when turning off my ubuntu box?
[19:34] <llutz> zortec: you are still in grub-shell?
[19:34] <NemesisD> if it helps, it also seems like i get the following error: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".   my xorg file is at http://pastie.org/716367
[19:34] <zortec> llutz: yes, this is what I get when I type "setup (hd0)"
[19:34] <zortec> llutz: Error 12: Invalid device requested
[19:34] <epinky> mzawieska: dual boot system?
[19:34] <cankoy> mzawieska: at the shell prompt, type 'blkid', press enter and pastebin the output.
[19:35] <ibuclaw> zortec, without quotes?
[19:35] <llutz> zortec:  setup(hd0)
[19:35] <zortec> ibuclaw: without quotes is unrecognized device string
[19:35] <mzawieska> epinky, nah just ubuntu
[19:35] <zortec> llutz: unrecognized command
[19:35] <llutz> zortec: that's odd
[19:36] <llutz> zortec: is that an apple?
[19:36] <Guest57027> anyone know how i add users on vsftpd?
[19:36] <epinky> mzawieska: then maybe your BIOS date/time is wrong, adjust it and retry
[19:36] <zortec> llutz: no, it's a windows machine
[19:36] <Kuba> ok, got it, nvm
[19:37] <llutz> zortec: "that worked for me for ages" (won't help you, sry)
[19:37] <Northern> Has anyone else been having problems with hulu/youtube or anything dealing with flash with not being able to hit buttons properly? I'm using the Ubuntu Restricted Extras to provide my flash, should I be using a different one?
[19:37] <ibuclaw> zortec, http://paste.ubuntu.com/328734  <- use that as reference
[19:37] <zortec> llutz: I found this on the ubuntu forum, maybe I missed a step
[19:37] <zortec> llutz: 1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.
[19:37] <zortec> 2. Open a terminal window or switch to a tty.
[19:37] <zortec> 3. Type "grub"
[19:37] <zortec> 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[19:37] <FloodBot2> zortec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <zortec> 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.
[19:37] <Guest57027> :S
[19:38] <llutz> zortec: root (hd0,2)
[19:38] <llutz> zortec: setup (hd0)
[19:38] <llutz> zortec: that's it
[19:38] <llutz> zortec: i don't have any idea why you get an error then
[19:38] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to get Ubuntu to default to the saved password instead of having to re-enter the wireless key after a disconnect?
[19:39] <mzawieska> http://tinypic.com/r/5o8t5j/6 this is the output
[19:39] <ibuclaw> GodfatherofEire, it's called Gnome Keyring... it should ask you to enter in a password after you connect.
[19:39] <switch263> any idea why ubuntu doesnt let me stretch my display across both my monitors? xrandr sees both. http://pastebin.com/f7f2c99ca
[19:39] <zortec> llutz: it rewrote grub to the mbr and then did some other stuff
[19:39] <ibuclaw> then it auto-unlocks whenever you login.
[19:39] <mzawieska> cankoy, did u get the picture http://tinypic.com/r/5o8t5j/6
[19:40] <zortec> llutz: Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[19:40] <llutz> zortec: eh, now it worked?
[19:40] <GodfatherofEire> ibuclaw, I meant for wireless keys
[19:40] <zortec> llutz: yes :)
[19:40] <trism> GodfatherofEire: after I get disconnected, I usually do a sudo restart network-manager and it doesn't ask me for a key
[19:40] <llutz> zortec: don't fool me pls
[19:41] <GodfatherofEire> trism, not quite what i was going for, and i dont think that'd be necessary
[19:41] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, reboot into LiveCD and run a fsck on the ext4 partition
[19:41] <zortec> llutz: no it did work, the problem was I had root (hd0, 2) when it's no space
[19:41] <zortec> llutz: should be root (hd0,2)
[19:41] <llutz> zortec: arghhhhh
[19:41] <llutz> zortec: quit grub now, reboot, remove live-cd, pray
[19:41] <zortec> llutz: should grub quit on its own?
[19:41] <GodfatherofEire> ibuclaw, what I mean, is I get disconnected from my network, momentarily, then it asks me to enter the wireless key, which is saved in gnome-keyring and gnome-nm-applet, why doesnt it default to the saved values?
[19:42] <llutz> zortec: no, quit <enter>
[19:42] <zortec> llutz: it kicked me out of the window or somehow I changed to a different terminal
[19:42] <switch263> also, i have xubuntu 9.04 installed right now, and if i allow it to update to the 9.10 kernel, i cant log in. any suggestions?
[19:42] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, when it goes to live cd where shoudl i run this?
[19:43] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, go to System -> Administration -> GParted
[19:43] <zortec> llutz:  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,2)/boot/grub/stage2
[19:43] <zortec> /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
[19:43] <zortec> Done.
[19:43] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, then select the first partition, and right-click -> check
[19:43] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, then 'Apply' and it will run.
[19:43] <llutz> zortec: seems ok, reboot
[19:43] <zortec> ok before I reboot, anyone have any ideas on a loud cd-rom drive?
[19:43] <sburwood> Am I on the right channel to connect an EEE PC 1005HA to wireless (wifi) in Belgium?
[19:44] <zortec> I have it pretty tight and it's reading at max speed and so I want to drop the speed down if possible
[19:44] <munley> help
[19:44] <switch263> zortec, some cdroms are just loud
[19:44] <switch263> mine has always been horribly loud
[19:44] <ibuclaw> GodfatherofEire, you could try removing/recreating the stored keys.
[19:44] <cankoy> mzawieska: now type  'mkdir mydisk; mount /dev/sda1 mydisk' , tell me if any errors occur
[19:44] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i have ubuntu 9.10 burn on the cd but it ask me try ubuntu with out any changes, install ubuntu,check disk for defect test memory an dboor from first hd where should i choose
[19:44] <zortec> switch263: mine sounds like a 747 jet taking off when it's reading
[19:44] <switch263> zortec, yep
[19:44] <zortec> switch263: should they be that loud?
[19:44] <munley> couldn't move file to my USB-pendrive (partition and formated by mac, but I do make it read/write to all)
[19:44] <switch263> youĺl have that sometimes
[19:44] <switch263> :)
[19:44] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, try without any changes
[19:45] <zortec> switch263: isn't there a way to change the max read from 48x to say 24x?
[19:45] <munley> Help~~~~!!!
[19:45] <munley> Please help ~~~~
[19:45] <switch263> zortec, i would assume so, but iḿ pretty new to ubuntu so i honestly dont konw
[19:45] <llutz> zortec: hdparm -E  xx maybe
[19:45] <switch263> ive never tried
[19:46] <switch263> anyone else ever seen the issue where upgrading to 9.10 kernel suddenly makes the system not want to let me log in? heh
[19:46] <sburwood> am I on the correct channel for someone to answer me?
[19:46] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, okay its loading i see the ubuntu sign it will prolly take a while
[19:47] <switch263> sburwood, my wifi just kinda worked
[19:47] <munley> munley@munley-desktop:~$ sudo ls -ahl /media/16gb
[19:47] <munley> ls: cannot access /media/16gb: No such file or directory
[19:47] <munley> munley@munley-desktop:~$ sudo ls -ahl /media/
[19:47] <munley> total 16K
[19:47] <munley> drwxr-xr-x  5 root root    4.0K 2009-11-27 04:39 .
[19:47] <FloodBot2> munley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <munley> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root    4.0K 2009-11-24 20:08 ..
[19:47] <sburwood> switch263, I had a problem with 9.10 and initrd.  I still can't get 9.10 to work
[19:47] <ibuclaw> !paste | munley
[19:47] <sburwood> switch263,  I can't get it to recognize any wifi
[19:48] <sburwood> it says that there are no network devices
[19:48] <Monocian> Anyone here has trouble downloading from ifile? ( my speed is fixed at 1KB/sec)
[19:48] <yoshilappi> anyone avilable to help me get my wireless working ?
[19:48] <switch263> well it doesnt have the right module for your wifi then sburwood , would be my guess
[19:49] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, okay i am in ubuntu can u tell me what now i should do
[19:49] <sburwood> if I can't get onto the internet, how can I get the module that is missing?
[19:49] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, System->Administration->GParted
[19:49] <mostafa_> hey there how can I set a shortcut key on my terminal?
[19:50] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, okay in there
[19:50] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, in the new window. Right-Click on "/dev/sda1" and select "Check"
[19:50] <switch263> sburwood, kernel module. hardware support.
[19:50] <sburwood> I'm a n00b, so talk me through that, please
[19:50] <claytonwalker> is there a xorg.conf file for the ubuntu login page? (spo that i can add a modline to get the correct screen rez)
[19:51] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, then click the Green Tick "Apply"
[19:51] <switch263> ... rebuilding kernels isnt something i would recommend for ¨noobs¨ :-/ i´ve broken many a system trying to change kernels
[19:51] <livingdaylight> Archanamiya, can i ask you quickly: how does one string together a bunch of arguements?
[19:51] <sburwood> I have 8.10 on the 1005HA
[19:51] <livingdaylight> Archanamiya, it's usually one like -sameq or -hq... how does one put a few together?
[19:51] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, okay its checking /dev/sd1
[19:51] <sburwood> but it doesn't find wireless
[19:52] <Archanamiya> livingdaylight: OHHHH. see PM
[19:52] <switch263> sburwood, does 9.10 not work?
[19:52] <ibuclaw> sburwood, afaik, 9.04 has better netbook support
[19:52] <ibuclaw> and 9.10 is even better (at least, on my Samsung N110) :D
[19:53] <switch263> 9.10 breaks shit on my end. hah.
[19:53] <sburwood> U tried it on the desktop, but got initrd error message, telling me that initrd is too big
[19:53] <sburwood> I tried it ...
[19:53] <epinky> sburwood: Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[19:53] <sburwood> Don't have a Cd player in the 1005
[19:53] <ibuclaw> sburwood, LiveUSB
[19:53] <ibuclaw> !unetbootin
[19:54] <switch263> ibuclaw, any tips on dual-display setups? :)
[19:54] <sburwood> how many GB do I need on a USB key?
[19:54] <sburwood> to make a live USB
[19:54] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, it says operation successfully complited just reboot the system right?
[19:54] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, yes
[19:54] <switch263> sburwood, most of them i´d imagine <1gb
[19:55] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, ensure that the LiveCD is removed from the drive before booting again ;)
[19:55] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, yea i did that :D
[19:55] <claytonwalker> let me rephrase this question: is there any way to get a screen rez modline to be loaded up as part of the login screen?
[19:56] <ibuclaw> switch263, apart from BusID "PCIx:y:z" and disable a certain compiz feature that switches desktops when you drag windows to the edge on the workspace, have nothing else to say ;)
[19:56] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, thnx man alot it worked :D
[19:56] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, no probs
[19:56] <ibuclaw> switch263, oh, and don't use odd monitor sizes
[19:56] <barbara>  /msg NickServ identify primi04
[19:56] <ibuclaw> they just don't go well ;)
[19:56] <epinky> ouch!
[19:57] <ibuclaw> epinky, ?
[19:57] <IdleOne> barbara: change your password
[19:57] <llutz> barbara: time to be quick
[19:57] <LCO> funny
[19:58] <claytonwalker> is there a way to change the login screen rez?
[19:58] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, I have another question I have another laptop but the laptop restarts it self when it shows f10 to bios and w/e it restarts over and over again but then after a while says system not found
[19:59] <chaos__> Greetings
[19:59] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, and you are unable to book off any devices?
[19:59] <ibuclaw> *boot
[20:00] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, what u mean exactly
[20:01] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, are you unable to load a LiveCD ? Boot from GRUB?
[20:01] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, let me check
[20:01] <ibuclaw> Load the BIOS configuration screen?
[20:02] <greezmunkey> question regarding system/preferences/startup applications: I added firestarter to it using the same command that runs it in the system/administration menu. I logged out, and logged back in, but it fails to run. What gives?
[20:02] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i see the same menu like b4 try ubuntu with out any changes to ur computer?
[20:02] <Offx2> hi all
[20:02] <ibuclaw> greezmunkey, firewall frontend apps shouldn't need to be started every time you login.
[20:03] <AmokPaule> Hello, is there somehow a programm that allows me too mass convert pictures to another data type? At best command line driven?
[20:03] <ibuclaw> greezmunkey, you configure it, close it, then it gets applied when you boot.
[20:03] <llutz> AmokPaule: convert from imagemagick
[20:03] <Offx2> åñòü òóò ðóññêèå?:)
[20:03] <Scunizi> AmokPaule: imagemagick will do that well
[20:03] <maslen> is it possible to access the wubi partitions files inside of windows?
[20:03] <Offx2> RUSSIAN MANS.where are you
[20:03] <maslen> I saw the guide online - and it isn't working
[20:03] <Offx2> ^_^
[20:03] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, try without any changes.
[20:03] <AmokPaule> Ok thanks will check
[20:03] <mkverc> I used the word "Debian" in the account name for a site ... is it a problem related to copyright or something related?
[20:04] <guntbert> Offx2: not here please
[20:04] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, by mistake i clicked check for hd defects
[20:04] <greezmunkey> question regarding system/preferences/startup applications: I added firestarter to it using  the same command that runs it in the system/administration menu. I logged out, and logged  back in, but it fails to run. What gives?
[20:04] <Offx2> . guntbert . sorry.
[20:04] <exxxo45> hello everybody. Could anyone help me please with installing fingerprint reader on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[20:04] <yoshilappi> anyone know how to get ubuntu to use a pendrive as a swap partition?
[20:05] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, I suppose that may work ... I don't know / unsure what that option is, but if it sounds like what I think it is...
[20:05] <llutz> yoshilappi: stupid idea
[20:05] <ibuclaw> mkverc, ask #debian
[20:05] <livingdaylight> the cpu on my laptop is whizzing like mad for no reason - any way to stop that?
[20:05] <bigl> witam gdzie mogę znaleźć w ubuntu zarzadzanie usb, karta sieciowa , karta graficzna itp
[20:05] <yoshilappi> llutz: why?
[20:05] <mkverc> ibuclaw: thx
[20:05] <llutz> yoshilappi: pendrives are awfully slow
[20:05] <nilo_> hi every body
[20:05] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, its checking the hd if its working properly but what should i do when i go to live cd mode like i did b4 ?
[20:05] <nilo_> I just upgrade my ubuntu 9.10 and now I've not sound
[20:06] <nilo_> please heeeelppp
[20:06] <ibuclaw> mkverc, http://www.debian.org/license
[20:06] <mkverc> ibuclaw: i in debian too...but i not give a aswer yet
[20:06] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, do you mean your fans?
[20:06] <yoshilappi> llutz: not all of them
[20:06] <llutz> yoshilappi: compared to RAM and internal HDDs, all
[20:06] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, that's the one
[20:06] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, what is installed on the laptop?
[20:06] <yoshilappi> llutz: then why is it syupposed to speed up windows/
[20:07] <llutz> yoshilappi: supposed by who?
[20:07] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, I am not sure but i think I installed ubuntu
[20:07] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, it's probably because you LT is warm???
[20:07] <yoshilappi> llutz: the people who put that ability into vista and windows 7
[20:07] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i reformated the disc after i took out the data
[20:07] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, LT?
[20:07] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, it check the disk it said no error found
[20:08] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, Lap Top
[20:08] <llutz> yoshilappi: imagine what happens when a system swaps, make your own mind then
[20:08] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i am rebooting the system now to the menu
[20:08] <mkverc> ibuclaw: your link is not a answer....i have notice by google search ...really :)))
[20:08] <llutz> yoshilappi: buy RAM, _that_ will speed up your system
[20:08] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, u want me to go to live cd right?
[20:08] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, okies, reboot and "try without making changes"
[20:08] <ibuclaw> yes
[20:08] <nilo_> please, please, I lost the sound in my ubuntu 9.10 after upgrade to 2.6.31-15
[20:08] <linuxguy2009> Anyone here get doom3 running without the start/stop motion of video on 9.10?
[20:08] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, doin it sir :P
[20:08] <yoshilappi> llutz: i am not entirely certain what happens when a system swaps i assume it writes info to the hard drive to access later
[20:08] <llutz> yoshilappi: create a partition on pendrive, type 82,
[20:08] <BlouBlou> nilo_: install pulseaudio
[20:08] <ibuclaw> mkverc, “Debian” and the Debian Logo are trademarks of Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
[20:08] <deuterium> hi, i have ubuntu 9.10 and an epson aculaser cx11nf. i followed http://www.gedda.info/?p=132 and i can add the printer in the printer configuration dialog, but then there's a message it can't find a driver ("Printer 'AL-CX11-' requires the 'pstoalcx11.sh' program but it is not currently installed. Please install it before using this printer.). where do i need to add it?
[20:09] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, its like when it makes this noise the laptop get hotter... and what is making it hot, i only have FF and Xchat open
[20:09] <deuterium> i've solved that problem by linking pstoalcx11.sh to /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin. now the error message has gone, but printing a test page fails. any idea what might be wrong?
[20:09] <llutz> yoshilappi: sudo mkswap /dev/sdXY (your new swap partition)
[20:09] <mikebeecham> Guys, I'm really not happy with pulseaudio since upgrading to Karmic.  It's not performing as well as Alsa...is there any way to go back to ALSA audio?
[20:09] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i will tell u when everything will loads okay
[20:09] <ibuclaw> mkverc, I suppose that means copyright them - if you are not representing them by using their logo/name, don't use it.
[20:09] <llutz> yoshilappi: make an entry in /etc/fstab, sudo swapon -a
[20:09] <deuterium> mikebeecham, i just seem to have an audio outage here too
[20:09] <llutz> yoshilappi: that's it
[20:10] <llutz> yoshilappi: but still not a good idea
[20:10] <yoshilappi> llutz: thanks
[20:10] <Scunizi> deuterium: if you know where the driver is.. then use FF and go to http://localhost:631 and add it there.
[20:10] <FredWP> Is anyone interested in buying my Steam account? I currently gave it to my sister as I couldn't really find any buyers in the past: http://steamcommunity.com/id/dlphinez, it's just sitting there idle now.
[20:10] <mikebeecham> deuterium: even volume up/down is not as responsive
[20:10] <Flannel> FredWP: Peaes don't advertise here, thanks.
[20:10] <deuterium> mikebeecham, is pulseaudio the default?
[20:10] <deuterium> Scunizi, let me try this, thanks!
[20:10] <mikebeecham> deuterium: yes, as of Karmic
[20:10] <yoshilappi> llutz: ok possibly a better idea then how do i access the stuff on my windows if i installed ubuntu via wubi?
[20:10] <FredWP> :3
[20:10] <llutz> yoshilappi: if you need swap on regular base, you _should_ buy more RAM. Thats the only solution
[20:10] <deuterium> mikebeecham, hm.
[20:11] <FredWP> Was just wondering Flannel.
[20:11] <FredWP> I wouldn't know where to turn for this kind of stuff.
[20:11] <llutz> yoshilappi: no idea about that
[20:11] <Flannel> FredWP: #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate
[20:11] <FredWP> Thanks.
[20:11] <ibuclaw> #spam would be more appropriate
[20:11] <FredWP> I'll try that too. :3
[20:11] <deuterium> Scunizi, btw it looks like the drivers are recognized now, yet printing fails. any idea how i can debug cups?
[20:12] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, oki i am in the live cd boss
[20:12] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, type top in a terminal, is your cpu running at 100% constantly?
[20:12] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, what should i do now
[20:12] <Scunizi> deuterium: is this a networked printer via ethernet?
[20:12] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, go to GParted again.
[20:12] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, and say what is listed there.
[20:12] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, it says no deviced listed
[20:13] <deuterium> Scunizi, yes, on 192.168.1.7
[20:13] <ibuclaw> hmm
[20:13] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, can you open a terminal then
[20:13] <mkverc> ibuclaw: it is mistakenly used the word "Debian" in the username ... this username is difficult to change ... ask to have no problems in the future
[20:13] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i dont understand but when i check the disk it said it was no error
[20:13] <Scunizi> deuterium: can you ping it? or log into it's webserver interface?
[20:13] <lore20> hello everybody
[20:13] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i am in terminal
[20:14] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, type in:  sudo fdisk -l
[20:14] <deuterium> Scunizi, yes, that works
[20:14] <mkverc> ibuclawibuclaw: can use a username ... or not legal?
[20:14] <Scunizi> deuterium: did you also set it up as a static ip address?
[20:14] <nilo_> buaaaaa, please any idea, I lost sound after upgrade ubuntu 9.10
[20:14] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, looks like FF was trying to cook my laptop. I didn't know it was such a crap browser
[20:14] <mzawieska> nothing done
[20:14] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, are you able to put what it outputs into http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[20:14] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, nothing showed
[20:15] <greezmunkey> deuterium, Scunizi, perhaps it needs port 9100, like a jetdirect interface???
[20:15] <lore20> i've a bootable usb hard-disk with a /boot partition (100mb) and a /home partition (100gb).. i want to avoid automounting of the first partition when i attach my hard-disk to an ubuntu/linux pc
[20:15] <claytonwalker> i would like to ask, how many people have used a modline from gtf or cvt to get their screen resolution to work correctly?
[20:15] <lore20> is it possibile?
[20:15] <deuterium> Scunizi, it gets assigned a static ip (192.168.1.7) from my router/access point, yes.
[20:15] <deuterium> greezmunkey, Scunizi: in the printer properties i have socket://192.168.1.7:9100
[20:16] <greezmunkey> deuterium, cool!
[20:16] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, you mean it looks like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/328768/plain/
[20:16] <deuterium> greezmunkey, but i can't print a test page using the properties dialog box
[20:16] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, I have FF up, cpu is around 10-20%
[20:16] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, in your terminal when you run it.
[20:16] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, correct
[20:16] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, on laptop?
[20:16] <Scunizi> deuterium: if it's asssigned an address from the router then it's not static.. to make it static you have to manually enter an IP and the gateway address.. at any rate you say socket.. does that mean you set the driver as an ipp driver?
[20:16] <greezmunkey> deuterium, no firewall?
[20:17] <greezmunkey> livingdaylight, Dell Latitude
[20:17] <livingdaylight> greezmunkey, i think flash makes FF go crazy
[20:17] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, ok, reboot into BIOS configuration.
[20:17] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, u know what i did, i plugged in my usb to the port and gparted showed me the disk
[20:17] <exxxo45> hello everybody, does anyone know how to install fingerprint reader on a Dell laptop? I tried to install thinkfinger-tools and libpam-thinkfinger, but that did not work. Any suggestions?
[20:17] <deuterium> Scunizi, oh true. i've set up the ip on the printer interface itself. so, it's definitely static.
[20:17] <nilo_> I've lost sound after upgrade in ubuntu 9.10, it changed kernel 2.6.31.- to 2.6.31-15 and pulse-audio libraries
[20:17] <nilo_> please help meeeee
[20:18] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, want me to reboot?
[20:18] <Scunizi> deuterium: and the rest of the machines in the house .. are their ip address something like 192.168,1,100+ ?
[20:18] <deuterium> greezmunkey, on the router/access point yes. but that's for down/upstream traffic only. will test telnet to 9100, though. mompl.
[20:18] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, reboot into BIOS config, yes. It looks like your internal drive is not detected.
[20:19] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, is either no power, dead, or disconnected.
[20:19] <epinky> nilo_: plop! http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[20:19] <ibuclaw> rebooting into BIOS will confirm whether or not the hard drive is detected.
[20:19] <deuterium> Scunizi, yes, the box i'm on at the moment has 192.168.1.110
[20:19] <yoshilappi> grrr seems i cant add the wine repo
[20:20] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, its seems like it cause when i plug in usb external it showed me in gparted the usb disk
[20:20] <vistro> Hello. I just performed a clean install of Ubuntu on another computer last night, and when I installed edubuntu (after applying all of the package upadates), I can't login after a reboot.
[20:20] <vistro> I logon, and I get the Ubuntu logo and the logon loading thing, and then it bumps me right back to the logon screen
[20:20] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, from bios where should i go
[20:20] <Scunizi> deuterium: so when you go through the cups interface.. is it set for lpt, ipp or other for the type of protocol that the driver should use?
[20:20] <lore20> i just want a partition to don't automount... there is any way?
[20:21] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, does the main screen not tell you what hard drives are detected?
[20:21] <greezmunkey> deuterium, in a console try "lpinfo -v" what do you get?
[20:21] <ibuclaw> along with clock, RAM, etc/
[20:22] <yoshilappi> anyone know how to access the files on windows if you installed ubuntu via wubi?
[20:22] <relentless> hi, Who is on the dev team for xorg with ubuntu
[20:22] <relentless> yoshilappi:  restart and it should be in the boot menu
[20:22] <DjAngo23> ping
[20:22] <mzawieska> ibuclaw,  its not showing disk just mmodel product system board Id service processor processor speed total memory bios version serial number UUID i system factored installed
[20:22] <yoshilappi> relentless: yes it is but i wanna access those files while on ubuntu
[20:22] <epinky> lore20: controlled with auto.master? (autofs)
[20:22] <ibuclaw> relentless, no one here. ;)
[20:22] <vistro> logging into failsafe-gnome does not help
[20:23] <relentless> yoshilappi: They are on the windows partition if you have ntfs load ntfs-3g
[20:23] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, and flicking through the menus shows no sign of a hard drive?
[20:23] <DjAngo23> i need to download ubuntu 9.10 via wget, can someone give me the link ? Because firefox ios not working
[20:23] <relentless> ibuclaw: sure, but for the past 3 versions of ubuntu my display on this laptop will not work
[20:23] <lore20> epinky: i don't want my partition to be automounted on any linux (at least ubuntu) mahcine
[20:23] <deuterium> Scunizi, can't find any indication of neither ipp nor lpr on https://192.168.1.110:631/
[20:23] <ibuclaw> relentless, what type of GFX?
[20:23] <relentless> ibuclaw: 1600x1280 is not my resolution
[20:23] <mzawieska> diagnostics primary hd self test
[20:23] <relentless> sg
[20:23] <mzawieska> and memory test
[20:24] <deuterium> Scunizi, but there's a 403 access denied error when i try to access https://192.168.1.110:631/admin
[20:24] <yoshilappi> relentless: that seems to be loaded but i cant see the partition
[20:24] <epinky> lore20: is it on /etc/fstab ?
[20:24] <Thaxll> Hello, is there a way to smooth tearing during movies playback on Ubuntu ? :o
[20:24] <DjAngo23> i need to download ubuntu 9.10 via wget, can someone give me the link ? Because firefox ios not working
[20:24] <mzawieska> ibuclaw,  when i click it it shows No IDE device
[20:24] <lore20> epinky: no
[20:24] <umm> hello?
[20:24] <relentless> yoshilappi: the files are just the iso, why not just downlao the iso
[20:24] <umm> anybody home?
[20:24] <BlouBlou> !ask | umm
[20:24] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, hmm ... so the internal hard drive is either dead, no power or disconnected.
[20:24] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, but the disk worked b4 i took it out and I took all the pictures etc
[20:25] <umm> may I ask a question?
[20:25] <yoshilappi> relentless: huh?
[20:25] <epinky> lore20: is it mounted?
[20:25] <EntityReborn> hm.
[20:25] <Txx> l
[20:25] <relentless> yoshilappi: wbui takes the iso and make it botable on your windows partition. just download and burnt he is
[20:25] <relentless> *the iso
[20:25] <deuterium> greezmunkey, with that command, i get some information on the console.. will make a pastebin, mompl
[20:25] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, power means that the motherboard doesnt give enough power to support the hd i think so
[20:25] <epinky> !ask | umm
[20:25] <DjAngo23> yes the iso ;)\
[20:25] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, it may be better for an engineer to have a look at it - or someone who is comfortable with opening/checking that hard drive cables are in correct.
[20:25] <umm> hi... I'm here to sell you some old people... I'm an auctioneir! (or however you spell that!)
[20:26] <yoshilappi> relentless dont have a cd handy heh hence the wubi install cause i could use a daemon to run the iso and install ubuntu
[20:26] <relentless> Iforgot where is the sorg.conf
[20:26] <relentless> *xorg.conf
[20:26] <Scunizi> deuterium: just the address without /admin sould work.. add the printer again through that interface.. the second page is for "Device" this is where you choose the type of connection.. some printers like the Brother's require some extra hoops which include setting the printer to print to lpt but then there is a brother link that translates that to ipp or something else.. Canon may have docs on their site about that or some other way to set it up.. if it's ca
[20:26] <lore20> epinky: yes.. it's in mtab
[20:26] <DjAngo23> Can somone give me the ubuntu is for wget, my firefox is not working and i need to burn it
[20:26] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, and in the last resort - swapping the hard drive for another.
[20:26] <umm> can I hear a hundred for the old bag?
[20:26] <DjAngo23> !ping
[20:26] <claytonwalker> relentless: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:26] <umm> ping, going once...
[20:26] <jpv_> when I install tracker in karmic I can't find trackerd on my PATH (or anywhere else). what's going on with that? TIA
[20:26] <umm> going twice...
[20:26] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i will figure something out thnx for ur help bud
[20:27] <umm> SOLD! To DjAngo23!!!
[20:27] <Flare183> !ot | umm
[20:27] <deuterium> greezmunkey, Scunizi: http://pastebin.com/d121a22af
[20:27] <Scunizi> deuterium: my Brother all in one was a pain.. my samsung color laser was a piece of cake.
[20:27] <poningru> DjAngo23, sorry what architecture and install type?
[20:27] <amgarchIn9> how do I list all installed packages to compare two installations?
[20:27] <poningru> as in x86? or x86_64? and alternative or live cd? and dvd or cd?
[20:27] <DjAngo23> 32bits
[20:28] <exxxo45> hello everybody, does anyone know how to install fingerprint reader? I tried to install thinkfinger-tools and libpam-thinkfinger, but that did not work. Any suggestions?
[20:28] <Flare183> 32bits = x86
[20:28] <deuterium> Scunizi, ok, let me try adding it again on :631 directly
[20:28] <poningru> can you handle text based installation?
[20:28] <poningru> or do you need the live cd?
[20:28] <Flare183> !who | poningru
[20:28] <umm> Sure, I'll sell for 32 bits!
[20:28] <umm> haha!
[20:28] <umm> ehm...
[20:28] <poningru> Flare183, ...
[20:28] <exxxo45> umm: stop trolling
[20:28] <Flare183> umm: Do I have to get the ops?
[20:28] <umm> yes ma'am...
[20:29] <DjAngo23> poningur: i need the live CD
[20:29] <poningru> DjAngo23, ok
[20:29] <pazianetz> wandi doank
[20:29] <relentless> ok this explians more, I dont have a xorg.conf file
[20:29] <relentless> wtf
[20:29] <deuterium> Scunizi, btw, looks like i can access http://localhost:631/admin, but not if i access the same port using the ip-address instead of "localhost"
[20:29] <yoshilappi> relentless: besides if i did do a reinstall i would have to redo all the work i have done which would be super annoying
[20:29] <umm> to Flare183 ... No thank you, I'll leave if you need me too... :P
[20:29] <pazianetz> wandi
[20:29] <ibuclaw> relentless, xorg.conf is deprecated
[20:29] <Scunizi> deuterium: k
[20:29] <relentless> ibuclaw: to what...
[20:29] <ibuclaw> relentless, auto detection
[20:30] <relentless> FAIL
[20:30] <Scunizi> relentless: no more xorg.conf on the new systems.
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> relentless, do you use Nvidia?
[20:30] <yoshilappi> ibuclaw: if xorg.conf isnt being used then what is?
[20:30] <ibuclaw> relentless, if you create one, it will be used in facvour
[20:30] <relentless> no
[20:30] <relentless> I dont have either
[20:30] <claytonwalker> relentless: you can make your own though (i had to)
[20:30] <umm> I have the blue screen of death, what do I do?
[20:30] <poningru> DjAngo23, where are you?
[20:30] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, auto-detection.
[20:30] <vistro> I just performed a clean install of Ubuntu on another computer last night, and when I installed edubuntu (after applying all of the package upadates), I can't login after a reboot.
[20:30] <Flare183> !windows | umm
[20:30] <Scunizi> umm: stop using windows
[20:30] <relentless> claytonwalker: can you pastebin yours?
[20:30] <DjAngo23> Amsterdam
[20:30] <poningru> DjAngo23, nethernalds?
[20:30] <poningru> ok
[20:30] <umm> I have blue screen on UBUTNU!!!!
[20:30] <claytonwalker> relentless: sure
[20:30] <relentless> troll
[20:30] <DjAngo23> But i think that one is not working
[20:31] <vistro> That's a new one
[20:31] <yoshilappi> i didnt think ubuntu had a blue screen
[20:31] <vistro> I thought we had kernel panics that were black
[20:31] <Flare183> LjL: Troll -> umm
[20:31] <umm> oh heck it was the screensaver...
[20:31] <pazianetz> windows is the best....
[20:31] <epinky> lore20: if it's on mtab then there must be an entry on fstab, what type of partition is?
[20:31] <pazianetz> hahahhhhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:31] <LjL> Flare183: what
[20:31] <relentless> HAHAHHAHAHAH
[20:31] <greezmunkey> deuterium, See if this helps any: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/50230
[20:31] <yoshilappi> LOL
[20:31] <yoshilappi> LMAO
[20:31] <pazianetz> yechhh....
[20:31] <pazianetz> windows is the best....
[20:31] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, X *probes* the GFX device, then *probes* the Monitor EDID/DPI/Hz settings, and calculates what is the correct refresh/sync/resolution settings for the Monitor&Card to work together with, and uses that.
[20:31] <lore20> epinky: ext2
[20:31] <Flare183> LjL: Yeah we've got trolls everywhere today
[20:31] <umm> your mama is the best!
[20:31] <umm> :P
[20:31] <LjL> !ot
[20:31] <pazianetz> nuts
[20:31] <relentless> ibuclaw: autodetect should be a choice not a requirement
[20:32] <vistro> Hey is there any reason Ubuntu bumps me back to the logon screen when I try to log in?
[20:32] <umm> that's right... ehm... BLUE Screen! What Do I DO?!?!?!?!?
[20:32] <yoshilappi> ibuclaw: u8ntil you need to install some driver for the GFX card
[20:32] <Scunizi> vistro: is it in a vm?
[20:32] <poningru> DjAngo23, http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[20:32] <DjAngo23> perfekt thanks a lot ;)
[20:32] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, all this is done every time you boot your workstation.  ... This is with the exception of restricted drivers (ati, nvidia) - to whom require an xorg.conf to "force" the loading of those modules.
[20:32] <vistro> Virtual Machine? Nope
[20:32] <vistro> I'm looking at the tower right now
[20:32] <claytonwalker> relentless: pastebin.org/d77060511
[20:32] <umm> Windows already banned me... :O and, it's a mac!
[20:32]  * greezmunkey hands umm a turkey leg, hopes he doesn't choke on it...
[20:33] <vistro> Wait.... I just got a terminal... white box in the corner of my scheen
[20:33] <LjL> !ot | umm
[20:33] <vistro> screen
[20:33] <yoshilappi> anyone here know anything about the wubi installs like how to access the files on windows from a wubi installed ubuntu?
[20:33] <grodius> hey friends, im trying to find the best way to have a custom boot splash in karmic... help!
[20:33] <ibuclaw> relentless, as I said earlier, if you create an xorg.conf file, it will be used in favour.
[20:33] <yoshilappi> ibuclaw: would that slow down the boot?
[20:33] <vistro> The terminal here is quite useless, and I canot type into it
[20:33] <deuterium> greezmunkey, ok, thanks
[20:34] <vistro> wait.. never mind... this thing can't make up it's mind on whether it wants to work or not.
[20:34] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, no. xorg.conf is usually just a skeleton anyway - and so it does the exact same thing with/without an xorg.conf.
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> yoshilappi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20access%20the%20Windows%20drives?
[20:34] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, at least, in the failsafe settings.
[20:34] <claytonwalker> relentless: sorry, www.pastebin.com/d77060511
[20:35] <Freddy2> hi
[20:35] <Scunizi> deuterium: howz it going.. any luck?
[20:35] <Freddy2> anyone having dependencies problems with debhelper? i can't update it, and it's updateable for a few days
[20:36] <relentless> claytonwalker:
[20:36] <grodius> anyone know the best way to set an animated bootsplash for karmic?
[20:36] <relentless> Errors
[20:36] <relentless> * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
[20:36] <Freddy2> (hardy)
[20:36] <ibuclaw> yoshilappi, having a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will give you some understanding of what it does when it loads, but not a great deal.
[20:36] <mikebeecham> hey...has anyone had any bad experiences with Audigy 4 soundcards and PulseAudio in 9.10?
[20:36] <claytonwalker> relentless: hm? lets try this again...
[20:36] <maslen> I'm having the exact same problem here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=436923
[20:37] <deuterium> Scunizi, i now have the following setup right in localhost:631: http://pastebin.com/d241acfd8 . the test page print job was automatically stopped though.
[20:37] <claytonwalker> relentless: alright... www.pastebin.org/57563
[20:37] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, is there a way cause i took out the hd and plug in as usb can i installl system on usb?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, pulseaudio doesn't play nice with pci soundcards and some onboards as well
[20:37] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i think the motherboard doesnt give enough power for the hd
[20:38] <xgvictoriax> what's a good application to keep and search people's addresses and telephone
[20:38] <xgvictoriax> on ubuntu
[20:38] <xgvictoriax> ?*
[20:38] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: yer telling me!
[20:38] <x-Na> So, nobody here having problems with suspend?
[20:38] <claytonwalker> relentless: this is not working. last resort. www.pasteall.org/9456
[20:38] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: but I've found no good way to remove PA and go back to ALSA
[20:38] <yoshilappi> maybe i should install from a fresh disk so i can resize the partition i only really want windows for game compatability
[20:39] <zuimbran> hallo
[20:39] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, I dumped PA ..now my sound is fine, but my needs are simple
[20:39] <relentless> claytonwalker: GOT IT
[20:39] <relentless> <3
[20:39] <Scunizi> deuterium: it says.. socket.. not sure but that leads me to believe that you used the AppSocket/HP JetDirect option.. ipp or http might be the better option.. typically ipp
[20:39] <deuterium> Scunizi, the error message is at the bottom here: http://pastebin.com/d34284f18
[20:39] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I've not found out how to do it without having a knock-on effect somewhere else
[20:39] <zuimbran> wer
[20:39] <x-Na> My suspend worked with Jaunty, but not with Karmic
[20:39] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, alsa is always there , PA just rides on top
[20:40] <yoshilappi> the install disk can resize partitions yes?
[20:40] <deuterium> Scunizi, i think i had an ipp setup before, but will try adding an entry for accessing the printer using ipp again (through cups :631 interface)
[20:40] <Scunizi> deuterium: k
[20:40] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: again though, I dont know HOW
[20:40] <mikebeecham> lol
[20:40] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, not very likely.
[20:40] <BluesKaj> have you purged PA, mikebeecham ?
[20:41] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: nope...I'm a fairly new user.  I dont want to do something that will muck everything up, unless I know I'm going to get to the point I need to get to!
[20:42] <vistro> How can I restore functionality/
[20:43] <Fasulo> connect irc.oltreirc.eu
[20:43] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, you can always just remove it , that leaves the config files behind and if you find that you do need PA , then just reinstall and all the settings will be preserved
[20:43] <vsMS> hi guys! how can i find out if the laptop is in a dockingstation or not? Is there something in /sys/... ?
[20:43] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i see the disk its workin on live cd
[20:43] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, hmm?
[20:43] <Djidane> bonjour
[20:43] <Djidane> j'ai une archive .rar
[20:43] <Djidane> et j'ai unrar
[20:43] <mikebeecham> BluesKaj: I've read that this does not work though
[20:43] <Djidane> mais j'arrive qu'a extraire certains fichier
[20:43] <vistro> I created a new user, and that user can get in okay, but my user account is hosed. Why?
[20:43] <epinky> !fr | Djidane
[20:43] <Flare183> !fr | Djidane
[20:43] <Djidane> les autres il me met des "failed"...
[20:43] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, the disk showed in gparted
[20:43] <Djidane> ah
[20:43] <Djidane> désolé :/
[20:43] <FloodBot2> Djidane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <vistro> Mine is pretty much the only one that can sudo
[20:44] <ibuclaw> Djidane, desole indeed ;)
[20:44] <ctop> vistro: are you using the correct user name and password?
[20:44] <vistro> Yeah.
[20:44] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, no way to install the OS on it
[20:44] <vistro> It doesen't say authentication failure or anything
[20:44] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, ?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> mikebeecham, sometimes you have to be a little adventurous to get what you need:)
[20:44] <vistro> it acts like it's going to log in, and it puts me back intot he logon screen
[20:45] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, the disk is shown in gparted?
[20:45] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, what size?
[20:45] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, yessir
[20:45] <vistro> Also, it thinks my monitor is much wider than it really is. How do I change the rez it uses on the logon screen?
[20:45] <mzawieska> 100 gigs like it was
[20:45] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, okies, not sure what you did, but looks like it is all good for now.
[20:46] <mzawieska> i took the disk out of the laptop
[20:46] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, do what you want with it, I suppose.
[20:46] <ibuclaw> it's your property to play about with, not mine ;)
[20:46] <amaru> hello
[20:47] <Boy2009> Hi GIRLS
[20:47] <ibuclaw> if you break it ... that is kinda my job to fix
[20:47] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, its workin as it was usb the disk i have cables and i plug in the disk to the cables and to the usb
[20:48] <deuterium> Scunizi, now i've also tried the following setting (using the driver for a cx21 instead of for a cx11), but so far, with no luck: http://pastebin.com/d791cdda3
[20:48] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, is there a way to boot it from usb hd?
[20:49] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, yes, when your system initial POST screen shows, you should be allowed to press a button to go to the SBIOS Boot Menu
[20:49] <ibuclaw> usually this is something like Esc, Del or F8
[20:49] <miromanyth> Happy Turkey Day to those who celebrate it.
[20:49] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, i am installin the ubuntu on it
[20:50] <claytonwalker> miromanyth: right back atcha
[20:50] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, sbios menu?
[20:50] <Scunizi> deuterium: time to google some more.. sorry.. I'm stuck
[20:50] <miromanyth> Has anyone successfully fixed tearing HD video with the catalyst drivers?
[20:51] <natrixnatrix89> Does anyone know why doesnt skype like v4l2? I just cant get my webcam working..
[20:51] <deuterium> Scunizi, yes, thanks! i've just stumbled upon sth that looks promising: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/68183. will examine the script, maybe this report still applies
[20:53] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, system bios boot menu.
[20:53] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, it's just a list of bootable devices.
[20:53] <mzawieska> ibuclaw, where is that exactly
[20:53] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, when the INITIAL screen loads, it should tell you to press a button to go to the boot menu.
[20:54] <mzawieska> i used use the enntired disk so its formating the disk now askin me for name etc
[20:54] <ibuclaw> this is before Grub
[20:54] <ibuclaw> mzawieska, if you want to boot off an external drive, that is.
[20:54] <ibuclaw> *note* this varies from System to System
[20:55] <miromanyth> !radeon
[20:55] <inspiron630> what is a good media player that will index a "library" of the music on my computer so i can browse it
[20:56] <ibuclaw> inspiron630, almost any...
[20:56] <miromanyth> !audio
[20:56]  * ibuclaw uses rhythmbox
[20:56] <miromanyth> !media
[20:56] <ibuclaw> others prefer Banshee/Amarok
[20:57] <miromanyth> inspiron630: I suggest Songbird or Banshee for GNOME.
[20:58] <DryGrain> how do i use xrandr to change screen resolution to say 800x600 from 1280x1024?
[20:58] <q0_0p> what about amarok
[20:58] <q0_0p> amarok isn't too bad
[20:58] <natrixnatrix89> !skype
[20:58] <DryGrain> i tried 'xrandr -d 800x600' and 'xrandr -s 800x600' after reading the info page
[20:58] <DryGrain> im missing something i think
[20:58] <miromanyth> q0_0p: Yeah it's nice for some but a little too much for me.
[20:59] <q0_0p> ah i c
[20:59] <q0_0p> miromanyth, what about exaile?
[20:59] <veliouras> hello
[20:59] <q0_0p> miromanyth, gnome's equivilant to amarok
[20:59] <Flare183> q0_0p: I use Exaile its awesome
[20:59] <miromanyth> q0_0p: I like Exaile. I still like Banshee the best out of all the big and bads.
[20:59] <inspiron630> sudo apt-get install xmms no package available. is it not in the repository anymore
[21:00] <Flare183> inspiron630: xmms2
[21:00] <veliouras> could you suggest me please an application to transfer files to a creative mp3 player?
[21:00] <DryGrain> xmms2
[21:00] <q0_0p> nautilus?
[21:00] <DryGrain> konqueror?
[21:01] <veliouras> ok, choose one!
[21:01] <miromanyth> amrok
[21:01] <b0w> Hello! anyone know how to print in Black/white on ubuntu, openoffice, gimp, anything...?
[21:01] <DryGrain> :(
[21:01] <veliouras> if i remember correctly there was a stand-alone application for creative players
[21:01] <kostkon> veliouras, gnomad2
[21:01] <DryGrain> no one wants to help me with xrandr :(
[21:01] <kostkon> !info gnomad2
[21:01]  * DryGrain sulks
[21:02] <veliouras> kostkon thanks! i'll give it a try
[21:02] <miromanyth> DryGrain: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[21:02] <kostkon> veliouras, :)
[21:02] <ChaoticXSinZ> Was MPEg4 support removed from gstreamer-ffmpeg in karmic?
[21:02] <mehdi> koshie tu es la?
[21:02] <guntbert> !fr | mehdi
[21:03] <DryGrain> thanks miromanyth
[21:03] <miromanyth> DryGrain: No worries buddy
[21:03]  * DryGrain ceases sulking
[21:03] <DryGrain> :D
[21:03] <miromanyth> :D
[21:04] <deserteagle> happy thanksgiving!
[21:04] <ChaoticXSinZ> Anyone?
[21:04] <miromanyth> deserteagle: you too!
[21:04] <deserteagle> :D
[21:04] <guntbert> !ot | deserteagle
[21:04] <deserteagle> could someone help me with an xmms/audacious issue i'm having? thanks! :)
[21:04] <b0w> Hello! anyone know how to print in Black/white on ubuntu, openoffice, gimp, anything...?
[21:04] <deserteagle> guntbert: wishing people happy thanksgiving is offtopic?
[21:05] <epinky> desserteagle: what's the problem?
[21:05] <guntbert> deserteagle: imagine all 1400 would reply ...
[21:05] <miromanyth> b0w: I think it's under file print, properties and Device
[21:05] <ChaoticXSinZ> Anyone wanna help me with a gstreamer issue im having?
[21:05] <sshc> I'm installing opera, but aptitude fails with "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/bin/x-www-browser is already managed by x-www-browser."
[21:05] <miromanyth> b0w: In openoffice
[21:05] <deserteagle> epinky, i'm trying to use the scrobbler plugin, i put in my username and password and url, but it doesn't seem to do anything
[21:06] <munley> i gave up
[21:06] <munley> I hate Ubuntu
[21:06] <munley> I couldn't even copy files using my USB-PenDrive
[21:06] <miromanyth> :takes bait: Why?
[21:06] <nonameNN> munley: take it easy... aint that hard
[21:06] <kostkon> munley, stop trolling, please
[21:06] <munley> It says I can copy files
[21:06] <munley> Cannot
[21:06] <vistro> Why does it do this? I can use a user ONCE! And then when I log out, logging back in is impossible
[21:07] <vistro> it puts me back into the logon screen
[21:07] <DryGrain> heh
[21:07] <munley> it says my 16GB USB Pendrive is READ ONLY
[21:07] <egle> hello, I cannot connect to DSL on xubuntu, please help, ugent
[21:07] <vistro> what a greaaaaat operating system you got here
[21:07] <munley> READ ONLY?????? I set it up with all my power to make it read and write
[21:07] <DryGrain> sudo so | chmod 777 /dev/pendrive
[21:07] <gdiz> hey everyone, is it possible to use ssh to imitate keystrokes on the server marchine (the machine I am connecting to).
[21:07] <munley> and I spent about 4 hours just to make a file to be copied, and IT FAILED
[21:07] <AMorozov> Hi!
[21:08] <munley> 4 hours, for a file
[21:08] <miromanyth> lol
[21:08] <munley> I am totally fed up with Ubuntu
[21:08] <deserteagle> alright
[21:08] <deserteagle> thanks for trying
[21:08] <DryGrain> kay
[21:08] <deserteagle> gl, hf
[21:08] <miromanyth> Well, it isn't Windows. Maybe try another distro? Or, ask for help?
[21:08] <DryGrain> enjoy windows
[21:08] <deserteagle> gdiz: i doubt it, honestly
[21:08] <deserteagle> gdiz: ssh lets you run as a new user, basically
[21:08] <guntbert> DryGrain: please keep helpful
[21:08] <munley> and to be honest, Ubuntu people didn't try to help
[21:09] <sync3times> munley, why on earth did you buy a read-only pendrive?    :)
[21:09] <DryGrain> ok
[21:09] <miromanyth> What is "Ubuntu people"?
[21:09] <deserteagle> guntbert: and munley isn't OT?
[21:09] <n8tuser> munley had you have your medicine yet?
[21:09] <munley> let me show you one page, from google
[21:09] <munley> you will know what Ubuntu People(those engeeinners)
[21:09] <DryGrain> munley what are the permissions on your pen drive
[21:09] <guntbert> deserteagle: feel free to tell him please
[21:10] <deserteagle> !ot | munley
[21:10] <sync3times> munley, some pen-drives have a write-protect switch.   But you would probably notice that
[21:10] <munley> check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1177336
[21:10] <AMorozov> I heard somewhere that Ubuntu official .iso's can be /somehow/ put onto USB-drives to make a bootable drive. Is it true?
[21:10] <deserteagle> if you have a question, feel free to ask and if someone knows, they'll probably respond. Otherwise, you're just ranting
[21:10] <deserteagle> AMorozov, true :)
[21:10] <sync3times> AMorozov, usb-creator
[21:11] <munley> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1177336 <---- If Ubuntu don't allow you to copy a single file, why would people spend time using it?
[21:11] <vistro> I might as well be talking to myself
[21:11] <miromanyth> munley: It looks like user "bryonak" really tried to help you.
[21:11] <gdiz> deserteagle, what I am trying to do is start firefox or something like that, have firefox navigate to youtube or hulu, and play a video, I think I can play a hulu video if I can have the ssh imitate a keystroke...is there another way of doing it?
[21:11] <Jeruvy> !usb | AMorozov
[21:11] <drart> Does anyone know how to set up a Logitech Webcam (the tiny one for notebooks )
[21:11] <sync3times> AMorozov, used it this week.  worked.   A little funky to use.
[21:11] <munley> sync3times : you don't understadn, you think I will let the write-protect switch locked?????
[21:11] <munley> funny
[21:11] <deserteagle> gdiz there's a way using xkeyboard, if i'm not mistaken
[21:12] <munley> Why are you ppl thinking that way anyway?
[21:12] <deserteagle> omg dude
[21:12] <munley> Computer is supposed to HELP people, make better life, not blocking people
[21:12] <deserteagle> ask for help on a specific issue, or QUIT WHINING
[21:12] <sync3times> munley, because computer problems have burned us all and humor is how must of us deal with it
[21:12] <munley> I can do that in Mac
[21:12] <Lithium_Rain> Hi, I was wondering if I can use the same swap and /home partitions for multiple distros at once?
[21:13] <kostkon> again
[21:13] <deserteagle> munley, just drop, please
[21:13] <n8tuser> Lithium_Rain -> yes
[21:13] <kostkon> !ot | munley
[21:13] <deserteagle> Lithium_Rain, you should be able to
[21:13] <epinky> :)
[21:13] <munley> the reason why I tried Ubuntu is because it seems better than Windows, far better
[21:13] <Lithium_Rain> n8tuser: Yay! Thanks. Anything special I need to do to prepare them or just install carefully?
[21:13] <Lithium_Rain> deserteagle: thanks also :D
[21:13] <deserteagle> np! :)
[21:13] <munley> but when I just want to work, to do a simple task, IT FAIL
[21:13] <n8tuser> Lithium_Rain -> do not reformat those specific partitions
[21:14] <Lithium_Rain> n8tuser: Gotcha. Sweet - I
[21:14] <angelus> hi guys, to those who use totem as Firefox's divx player, can you seek in it, if not, do you know a better DIVX video player for firefox ?
[21:14] <deserteagle> munley, OK IT FAILED, GO AWAY NOW :)
[21:14] <Lithium_Rain> 'm off to partition a 1.5 tb drive and installing! :D Thanks, guys :)
[21:14] <munley> turned out you have to be a PRO to know all those Terminal COMMANDS
[21:14] <deserteagle> angelus, i use the mplayer plugin, haven't had issues with it
[21:14] <munley> I admitted that I am very stupid
[21:14] <gdiz> deserteagle, I am confused on the x11 stuff.  is x11 just kind of like vnc or some sort of screen sharing
[21:14] <angelus> thanks deserteagle i'll try that
[21:14] <munley> I am not smart to learn all those complex commands
[21:14] <AMorozov> thank you, reading its page on the launchpad...
[21:14] <deserteagle> gdiz x11 is the program that displays stuff, essentially
[21:15] <munley> NOT because I am lazy!! but becasue that's computer's job, not my job
[21:15] <deserteagle> munley, use a MAC
[21:15] <deserteagle> or windows
[21:15] <deserteagle> linux is NOT for you
[21:15] <munley> it says " Permission DENY"
[21:15] <n8tuser> gdiz you were not really clear on what problem you are trying to solve. can you elaborate once more please?
[21:15] <gdiz> deserteagle, does it display stuff on the client computer or on the server computer
[21:15] <deserteagle> linux is for people who don't mind spending HOURS trying to get something to work
[21:15] <DryGrain> hrm
[21:15] <deserteagle> gdiz, huh? o.O
[21:15] <drart> Is there someway to connect my Logitech Webcam in Ubuntu ?
[21:15] <munley> it says " You are not the onwner " so so funny, then who is using the computer now?????
[21:15] <DryGrain> !xrandr | DryGrain
[21:15] <deserteagle> gdiz it'll display on which ever PC it's running on
[21:16] <drart> i'm in the right place for this kind of doubts ? :)
[21:16] <deserteagle> drart: yup, check the forums
[21:16] <foo> I ran apt-get update and upgrade yesterday... and now rkhunter is throwing a warning for sulogin, adduser, and last. Why? I'm pretty sure it started doing this after the apt-get update and upgrade...
[21:16] <munley> it says " You are NOT the owner so you cannot copy files / delete files:" So so so so funny
[21:16] <Wandar> hi :)
[21:16] <deserteagle> drart, it should be plug and play unless you've modified the install
[21:16] <munley> Who is the person log in with correct password and using the Ubuntu now?????
[21:16] <DryGrain> munley, log in as root
[21:16] <deserteagle> i'm adding munley to my ignore list, forget him
[21:16] <munley> and Ubuntu just won't let you!!! damn!!! YES I tried root tooo
[21:17] <DryGrain> sudo su
[21:17] <AMorozov> DryGrain: as far as I remember correctly, Ubuntu doesn't allow to *lo gin* as root :)
[21:17] <Wandar> i just wanted to tell the dev team that everytime i use the live cd it resets my system clock to GMT (i live in australia) where should i do that?
[21:17] <n8tuser> AMorozov -> wrong ..
[21:17] <AMorozov> So he should use sudo bash :)
[21:17] <munley> i even try kgesomeshit Nautilus
[21:17] <DryGrain> well you can sudo su to get root
[21:17] <munley> says it will give you FULLY POWER to do whatever you want, it is LIE
[21:17] <DryGrain> sure
[21:18] <munley> LIE LIE LIE
[21:18] <DryGrain> i have a shortcut to a root terminal
[21:18] <DryGrain> munley stop trolling
[21:18] <DryGrain> do you need help or do you want to yell and froth at the mouth
[21:18] <munley> sad......
[21:18] <deserteagle> o_O? i added munley to ignore list, yet i still see his chat
[21:18] <DryGrain> hes hacking you deserteagle
[21:18] <munley> spent those hours jsut to copy a file, and it failed
[21:18] <DryGrain> :/
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> DryGrain, munley "sudo -i" is the Ubuntu way to get a root terminal FYI
[21:18] <deserteagle> ah! there we go
[21:19] <deserteagle> muuuch more quiet
[21:19] <munley> i did sudo -i
[21:19] <munley> I did everything I google
[21:19] <ChaoticXSinZ> Anyone know why the gstreamer-ffmpeg in the repos doesn't have mpeg4 support?
[21:19] <radioman-lt> did you know, google invent: gsudo ;}
[21:19] <munley> I even let a us very nice young man to log in to my PC, it failed
[21:19] <deserteagle> so anyways, anyone here used the scrobbler plugin for xmms/audacious?
[21:19] <munley> a very pro US young man
[21:19] <dan45> Hi. Is it Ubuntu channel?
[21:20] <deserteagle> dan45, yup
[21:20] <munley> he is pro but he is busy, he can't be out there help me all day
[21:20] <fsancho> hi all
[21:20] <kostkon> dan45, yeap
[21:20] <deserteagle> hello!
[21:20] <munley> everybody got jobs to do
[21:20] <bastidrazor> munley: if you're using nautilus you won't be using kdesudo..
[21:20] <gdiz> n8tuser, okay here is what I am trying to achieve (sorry for the confusion), I have an ubuntu box hooked up to my TV.  I also have a macbook pro with os x.  Now, I want to use the ubuntu box (in part) as a media center that I can remotely control with my macbook pro.  So, I know how to use vnc. But, I'd really like to just have some way that I can use shell scripts to control hulu on the ubuntu box to be a little more minimal.  does
[21:20] <dan45> Hi... I need a private chat help, regards partitioning Ubuntu before install
[21:20] <bastidrazor> munley: also if the drive mounted as read only you will not be able to write to it regardless of what you do. you would need to remount it with mount permissions
[21:20] <deserteagle> gdiz, ooooh i get it now
[21:20] <munley> I try evyerthing I could to ...... just
[21:21] <munley> I am so tried
[21:21] <epinky> munley: take it easy man
[21:21] <deserteagle> gdiz, what you need is: x11vnc
[21:21] <munley> Did you people read this page yet??? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1177336
[21:21] <foo> I ran apt-get update and upgrade yesterday... and now rkhunter is throwing a warning for sulogin, adduser, and last. Why? I'm pretty sure it started doing this after the apt-get update and upgrade...
[21:21] <munley> You must understand, FAT16 / 32 can't handle any file over 4GB
[21:21] <gdiz> deserteagle, what is that?
[21:22] <deserteagle> gdiz, first: log onto ubuntu box through ssh. second: launch x11vnc. third: launch a vnc viewer from your macbook and log in to the ubuntu box
[21:22] <munley> so I partitions it as GPT and APT once, and try go get a file which is 4.2GB on Ubuntu
[21:22] <deserteagle> gdiz, easy as heck, i do it all the time
[21:22] <munley> Ubuntu just won't let you copy
[21:22] <n8tuser> gdiz yes you can use ssh to log in an control the remote ubuntu,   once logged in, you can use scripts to control the ubuntu
[21:22] <dan45> I have a 500GB HDD, how to partition it properly, and do I need to make all 5 separate partitions?
[21:22] <munley> I am very sure it's NOT read ONLY
[21:22] <deserteagle> dan45: nope
[21:23] <munley> or why else I could copy the same USB back and forth?
[21:23] <sync3times> dan45, is this a desktop or a server
[21:23] <deserteagle> dan45, bare minimum is 3 partitions
[21:23] <munley> it's all aobut the permission things
[21:23] <dan45> desktop
[21:23] <inspiron630> i need some help with STL map. I get the following error: http://codepad.org/nITMuVFS
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> munley, instead of "chmod u+rw /media/iomega/Iomega\ HDD" use "chmod ugo+rw /media/iomega/Iomega\ HDD"
[21:23] <dan45> ...2 users
[21:23] <sync3times> minimum is one partition
[21:23] <deserteagle> dan45, /boot, / and swap
[21:23] <gdiz> deserteagle, I can do the vnc thing from my macbook pro.  But, I would really like to write an applescript that does a shell script along the lines of "ssh ubuntubox run firefox and open hulu webpage in fullscreen"
[21:23] <munley> if Ubuntu is what it says to be, for common people to use, for oridional people to use, why make it so difficult to copy a file???
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> munley, actually correction!  use "chmod u+rwx /media/iomega/Iomega\ HDD"
[21:23] <deserteagle> gdiz, i see... let me think
[21:24] <munley> okay, I will try
[21:24] <vistro> Can I get help on a logon problem?
[21:24] <blendmaster1024> hello, all. i am trying to make my broadcom card work, does anybody know what the broadcom driver is called in 9.04?
[21:24] <sumeetbali> anyone own a HP Laptop T4300?
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> munley, sorry !! mistake #2 use this one "chmod ugo+rwx /media/iomega/Iomega\ HDD"
[21:24] <blendmaster1024> what is the module called that is
[21:24] <munley> not iomega
[21:25] <dan45> deserteagle: On https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/amd64/apcs03.html I can't find an info what's /boot
[21:25] <blendmaster1024> ahem, name of broadcom driver?
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> munley, where is it mounted right now?  type "mount" in a terminal if you don't know
[21:25] <munley> chmod: cannot access `/media/16gb': No such file or directory
[21:25] <eremite> I have a screen resolution problem. I only get 600x800 as highest resolution, but I can add more resolutions via terminal.  In the user Display GUI there si no option for higher than 600x800, even after I change it higher manually.  I edited xorg.config file to detect the resolutions but no luck.  Ive seen other people with this problem. I have to change resolutions with 5 lines of code in terminal each time I log in. HELP!
[21:25] <deserteagle> gdiz, opening the ssh tunnel and launching ff to hulu shouldn't be a problem, as to the fullscreen thing, maybe it's an option when launching ff?
[21:26] <deserteagle> dan45, it's the first partition of the harddrive
[21:26] <vistro> Are these messages even getting through?
[21:26] <deserteagle> dan45, it'll be what the program that starts ubuntu sees first.... as a matter of fact, the only thing
[21:27] <deserteagle> vistro, yes, they're getting through, however i don't know the solution to your problem and am busy helping someone else
[21:27] <n8tuser> gdiz yes you can use ssh to log in an control the remote ubuntu,   once logged in, you can use scripts to control the ubuntu <-- have you done this ?
[21:27] <AMorozov> eremite: you may put all suitable resolutions right into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:27] <inspiron630> how do i do array indexing on a map if its a pointer?  myMap[5] = "hi"  but if myMap is a pointer it doesn't work
[21:27] <puppetmaster_> Is there a program that I give him plain text and it gives me ASCII coded draw ?
[21:27] <gdiz> deserteagle, maybe...I read on the hulu webpage that if you type certain things it goes into fullscreen or pauses or whatever
[21:27] <deserteagle> i wouldn't be surprised
[21:28] <deserteagle> i gtg, but definitely check out xkeyboard
[21:28] <sync3times> eremite, is there horizontal and vertical refresh ranges specified in your xorg.conf ?
[21:28] <Jeruvy> vistro: try asking your question in full, then if any one can answer they will.
[21:28] <skyl> I have three harddrives on this machine, each of which has ubuntu.  I think  they are sda, sdb and sdc .... I'm about to reformat and go over the entire sdb dirve with an ext4 and a swap partition ... it says that the swap drives on sda and sdc are going to be formatted even thohugh I specified only partitions on sdb to be formatted.
[21:28] <skyl> this is normal and okay?
[21:28] <deserteagle> gdiz, i know for a fact it lets you emulate keystrokes from the command line (from ssh)
[21:28] <AMorozov> eremite: it's a bit "hardcore" way nowadays, but it still works if possible resolutions autodetection doesn't work for your hardware...
[21:28] <n8tuser> skyl nope
[21:28] <Wandaround> helolo?
[21:28] <gdiz> n8tuser, I can log into the computer via ssh and do things via ssh, but I have absolutely no idea how to interact with the gui that way
[21:28] <dan45> deserteagle, on some video tutorial, some guy (Alan Pope) made such with 42GB HDD: / = 10GB, /home = 30GB, swap = 2GB... is it right?
[21:28] <Wandaround> hello too
[21:28] <vistro> After patching up Ubuntu, and Installing Edubuntu-desktop, when a user is created, it gets one login. Then it's useless
[21:28] <vistro> It acts like it will log in, but it goes right back to the logon scren
[21:29] <sync3times> gdiz, gui works across ssh
[21:29] <Wandaround> may i ask a question?
[21:29] <acicula> gdiz: log in using the -X flag, lets you start gui aps remotely
[21:29] <vistro> the best I can do is a terminal by using xterm session
[21:29] <vistro> .xsession-errors does not tell anything useful
[21:29] <munley> zykotick9
[21:29] <Freak444> msg
[21:29] <n8tuser> gdiz its the hulu running on ubuntu your trying to control. ..dont know hulu, so find out which scripting they use
[21:29] <poningru> DjAngo23, http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[21:29] <Wandaround> hello?
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> munley, yes?
[21:29] <Wandaround> hi there
[21:29] <munley> zykotick9
[21:29] <dan45> is there a private chat support available?
[21:29] <Wandaround> nice channel
[21:29] <Wandaround> great chat
[21:29] <munley> zykotick9, guide me if you would
[21:29] <Wandaround> hi there
[21:29] <Wandaround> hello
[21:30] <dan45> hi
[21:30] <Wandaround> anyone going to respond?
[21:30] <FloodBot2> Wandaround: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <n8tuser> dan45 -> are you willing to pay?
[21:30] <gdiz> yeah but I think if I can make it imitate a keystroke in the gui (like type f in firefox) that will put it in fullscreen
[21:30] <munley> what do I do?
[21:30] <Wandaround> not flooding just trying to get a response
[21:30] <trism> gdiz: generally you can export DISPLAY=:0.0 or whatever the display of your logged in user is, but as of karmic you need to set XAUTHORITY too because it has moved from the default location of ~/.Xauthority
[21:30] <Iowan> Wanderer: What would you like
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> munley, you need to know what the mount point of your drive is.  in a terminal type "mount"
[21:30] <Wandaround> i just wanted to tell the dev team that everytime i use the live cd it resets my system clock to GMT (i live in australia) where should i do that?
[21:30] <munley> My USB is partitioned and formated by Mac with GPT and HPS+
[21:30] <munley> Ubuntu can read files from it, but cannot copy files into it
[21:31] <Jeruvy> Wandaround: if the bots say your flooding, your flooding.  You should perhaps try in #ubuntu-devs, thats where they hang out.
[21:31] <skyl> swap should be a primaryy partition?
[21:31] <munley> What do I do???
[21:31] <gdiz> hey everyone, I am really new to ubuntu and unix so could you explain things like you are talking to a 3 year old... :-)
[21:31] <acicula> munley:use fat on usb sticks like every one else ?
[21:31] <vistro> but of course nobody has an answer to this problem... perhaps these releases need a tad more testing before they are commited
[21:31] <enrique> what?
[21:31] <enrique> hola
[21:31] <enrique> xD
[21:31] <Wandaround> thank you very much jeruvy :)
[21:31] <munley> /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[21:31] <munley> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[21:31] <munley> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[21:31] <munley> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[21:31] <munley> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[21:31] <FloodBot2> munley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <munley> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[21:31] <n8tuser> gdiz go to your room and drink your milk.. hehehe
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> munley, ya - i'm not surprised and using Unix chmod is NOT going to help you.  switch to FAT/NTFS or better yet EXT3/4.  Best of luck man.
[21:31] <AMorozov> munley: are you sure that it has support for writing HFS+ filesystem?
[21:31] <gdiz> n8tuser :-p
[21:31] <epinky> skyl: yes, it's better
[21:32] <hacknslash> gdiz, what do u want to know
[21:32] <Wandaround> errrr that channel is empty, next guess?
[21:32] <skyl> location for new partition, beginning or end
[21:32] <n8tuser> gdiz scripting is not for 3 year olds
[21:32] <AMorozov> ZykoticK9: probably ext* and NTFS isn't a best filesystem for a flash drive
[21:32] <skyl> I'm using the whole drive for 1 ext4 and 1 swap
[21:32] <acicula> skyl: doesnt really matter
[21:32] <munley> Zykotick9 AMorozow : you don't understanbd, I need to copy files between Mac and Ubuntu
[21:32] <Jeruvy> Wandaround: sorry #ubuntu-dev
[21:32] <AMorozov> munley: I do understand.
[21:32] <acicula> skyl: most systems hardly use swap these days, desktops that is
[21:32] <skyl> acicula, i can set them both to beginning?
[21:32] <gdiz> n8tuser, I lied, I know a little more than that, I can do some basic stuff
[21:32] <Wandaround> ah thats it :)
[21:32] <munley> Then why woulndn't ubuntu let me?
[21:33] <Wandaround> thanks very much!
[21:33] <AMorozov> I simply do not know if ubuntu (and Linux as whole) has support for writing files to HFS+
[21:33] <acicula> skyl: well they cant be in the same place
[21:33] <skyl> indeed, never swap! that's my motto
[21:33] <trism> gdiz: before karmic through ssh you could just run a command like DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox www.hulu.com through ssh and firefox would launch on the other display, but since .Xauthority is now located in /var/run/gdm/something-yourusername/database you have to do a bit more work
[21:33] <vistro> How do I make a user last for more than 1 logon?
[21:33] <damjanzg> they cant read HFS
[21:33] <n8tuser> gdiz right, so figure out how to script hulu .. dont know if it uses bash, python, javascript or what not.. so you need to dig up what it uses
[21:33] <vistro> Are accounts on Ubuntu supposed to be disposable?
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> AMorozov, ya - once i saw he was using Mac i just through out all the "reasonable" posibilities (and i think FAT/NTFS would "probably" be better for Mac interoperability then ext3/4)
[21:33] <skyl> so I can make my ext4, beginning and my swap end .. should be good?
[21:33] <munley> I cannot use FAT32, because a 4.2GB file cannot be save on my 16GB USB stick
[21:33] <munley> Amorozov
[21:34] <radioman-lt> use ntfs
[21:34] <n8tuser> or NFS
[21:34] <skyl> vistro, "make a user last" does not compute ... maybe Dong Chong Xia Tsou?
[21:34] <munley> Zykotick9 AMorozow : the problem is, the partition ways of Ubuntu is not standard
[21:34] <munley> I am so fed up with this
[21:34] <vistro> How do I make a user that will work for more than one logon?
[21:35] <n8tuser> munley drop the attitude please, you dont know what you are mumbling about
[21:35] <gdiz> hacknslash, what I am trying to do is log in via ssh to an ubuntu box (I can do that part), run a shell script that basically tells the ubuntu box to open firefox, navigate to hulu or youtube, and play a video (I think I can make firefox play a video if I can imitate keystrokes, ie. type "f" in firefox)
[21:35] <Chousuke> vistro: they should be that way by default :|
[21:35] <trism> gdiz: my solution was to add xterm -c xauth extract $HOME/.Xauthority $DISPLAY to System/Preferences/Startup Applications, and then it is automatically copied back to .Xauthority when you log in, and you can use just set the display and launch things through ssh
[21:35] <gdiz> n8tuser, okay, I'll go do my homework and see what I find out
[21:35] <Iowan> vistro:  Can you check passwd file to see if users are there
[21:35] <munley> n8tuser, nope, you don't know what ubuntu is really about
[21:36] <munley> as I said, computer is supposed to help people, not blocking people
[21:36] <n8tuser> !ops | munley
[21:36] <Chousuke> munley: If you want to copy files between both systems, you need a filesystem that both support.
[21:36] <hacknslash> gdiz, try reading up about curl
[21:36] <epinky> munley: why don't you use network file copying (scp, sftp) ?
[21:36] <vistro> Oh, they are there, and I cna log in to them, without authentication faulure, but it acts like it will log in, and then it puts me right back into the logoon screen. this is after installing edubuntu and patching the system
[21:36] <Chousuke> munley: or you can copy over the network
[21:36] <egle> hello, I have severe problems with network manager and dsl on Karmic, could please, please anyone help me
[21:36] <skyl> sdb1 is /, sdb2 is swap ... / is set to format ... but then it says that partition #5 of SCSI5, sda as swap will be formatted
[21:37] <munley> ............
[21:37] <n8tuser> egle  what have you done so far?
[21:37] <skyl> and sdc partition #5 too
[21:37] <Chousuke> munley: if you want to use a USB drive, format it as NTFS
[21:37] <skyl> "as swap"
[21:37] <Chousuke> munley: that's supported by both Ubuntu and OS X (via NTFS-3g)
[21:37] <munley> NTFS is windows
[21:37] <munley> I don't use windows
[21:37] <Chousuke> munley: that doesn't matter. the only other option is FAT32
[21:37] <munley> windows is a joke
[21:37] <Chousuke> munley: you don't need windows.
[21:37] <vistro> removing edubuntu-desktop and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop didn't help a bit
[21:38] <jpds> munley: No, it's an operating system.
[21:38] <egle> I was trying to connect dsl using pppoeconf, no luck, now all my prefs on networkmanager has gone, it says I have no control on device
[21:38] <munley> as I say million times, FAT32 doesn't support 4gb
[21:38] <Chousuke> munley: install ntfsprogs and you will be able to create ntfs filesystems
[21:38] <dvheumen> Hey everyone. I'm trying to fix the root partition using fsck. But how can I safely scan (and fix) when I'm booted into Ubuntu? ... I'm looking on google atm but I can't find anything ... I'm looking for a way to mount / read-only ...
[21:38] <munley> as I say million times, FAT32 doesn't support 4gb file, my flie happend to be 4.2GBBBBBB
[21:38] <calwig> anyone know about PGP?
[21:38] <egle> n8tuser, I was trying to connect dsl using pppoeconf, no luck, now all my prefs on networkmanager has gone, it says I have no control on device
[21:38] <Chousuke> munley: which is why you need to use NTFS! :P
[21:38] <gdiz> trism, I am a little confused, what does that command achieve and what does xauthority refer to
[21:38] <munley> Why is this happening to me????
[21:38] <jpds> Chousuke: I'm pretty sure ext3 works on Mac... as it's based on Unix.
[21:38] <Iowan> egle: Did something get put in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:38] <Chousuke> jpds: it doesn't.
[21:39] <skyl> sdc5 and sda5 are already swap ... I guess it doesn't hurt if the install disk wants to reformat them?
[21:39] <acicula> munley: is the usb device mounted in rw mode or just r?
[21:39] <n8tuser> egle why pppoe ? any other alternatives? whats is your dsl modem/router?
[21:39] <Chousuke> jpds: or well. ext2 does. with an external driver
[21:39] <Juzman> Anyone notice since latest updates for Lucid that their image transparency is broke?
[21:39] <munley> acicula, how to know rw or r????
[21:39] <bastidrazor> munley: then use ext2/3/4 .. mac reads those fs's no problem
[21:39] <egle> Iowan, I dont know
[21:39] <Juzman> It could be the intel drivers though.
[21:39] <calwig> Hi, anyone know pgp?
[21:39] <acicula> munley: type mount and look for the line
[21:39] <Chousuke> bastidrazor: only ext3/2
[21:39] <Jeruvy> Juzman: ask in #ubuntu+1 for lucid thanks.
[21:39] <enapupe> Hello! Any way to ALT TAB and Drag&Drop??
[21:39] <egle> n8tuser, no, there's no other alternative this time
[21:39] <Chousuke> bastidrazor: ext4 is not necessarily backwards-compatbile
[21:39] <Chousuke> compatible*
[21:39] <munley> acicula... please wait
[21:39] <acicula> munley:http://www.ubuntuproductivity.com/journal/macintosh/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/ ?
[21:40] <epinky> !anyone | calwig
[21:40] <Iowan> egle: If interface is defined there, NM will (probably) ignore it
[21:40] <egle> n8tuser, modem is speedtouch, I using this connection now on other machine
[21:40] <n8tuser> egle  whats is your dsl modem/router? how does your ISP as in type to allow your connection?
[21:40] <munley> slow down
[21:40] <Chousuke> oh, HFS will do as well it seems. Last time I checked, it wasn't read/write on Linux
[21:40] <Juzman> Jeruvy: My bad.
[21:40] <Chousuke> I guess it is now.
[21:40] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im on Kubuntu 9.10, my dad is on the other side of the world on ubuntu 8.10.. I want to help him but its very very difficult to explain him some things, I would like to use something like VNC or something alike to take a look on his desktop, but Im behind a NAT fireall, and so is he.. How can I, somehow, connect to his computer? Even just SSH would do..
[21:41] <phoenixz> For now we're interchanging screencaptures and stuff, but its not really workable
[21:41] <acicula> phoenixz: get him to forward a port from his router to his pc
[21:41] <Jeruvy> Juzman: no worries.
[21:41] <trism> gdiz: xauthority is the magic code the gives you permission to launch x applications on a display, when you log in it is copied in karmic to /var/run/gdm/etc...this extracts the authorization back to the default location...otherwise you would need to set the XAUTHORITY enviroment variable to the correct location, which might be a bit more work
[21:41] <johan_bluecreek> I am totally confused over how hal works. I'm trying to get the 2-finger tap on the touchpad to register as a middlebutton click. However I do not know how to do this! None of the input devices in lshal is my touchpad, so what makes it work!?
[21:41] <phoenixz> acicula: That would require him to do something complex.. I'd have to explain him.. hhmmm, let me ask him what router he has...
[21:41] <acicula> forwarded port on his pc has to have a service, port on the router can be your pick, mind you this gives everyone a chance to connect tehre
[21:41] <munley> give me the command again plz
[21:41] <skyl> ah, a fresh install of karmic on the way :D
[21:41] <calwig> Once I encrypt a PGP message, it sits on my desktop   as file.pgp. But I cant view the file. I would like to see it but the file viewer doesnt allow me. How can I view it as a text, even if it is ASCII
[21:42] <acicula> munley: mount ?
[21:42] <munley> mount yes i did many times
[21:42] <acicula> munley: you can read it yes?
[21:42] <AMorozov> now to read its output
[21:42] <egle> anyone ^^
[21:42] <jpds> calwig: gpg --decrypt <filename>
[21:42] <munley> Can I paste them to you?
[21:42] <acicula> yeah but either pm or use pastebin
[21:42] <munley> Can I paste them heree??
[21:42] <acicula> no
[21:42] <acicula> !pastebin
[21:42] <gdiz> trism thank you
[21:43] <vistro> How do I uninstall edubuntu completley?
[21:43] <calwig> jpds, sure, but I would like to see the file before decryption
[21:43] <vistro> I don't want any of it's dependancies there at all, unless they are used by something else
[21:43] <egle> n8tuser, my isp allows me dsl, it's all ok, I am using this connection on opensuse now but no luck on Karmic though I really need it
[21:43] <jpds> calwig: Reencrypt it with the --armor option.
[21:44] <acicula> egle: your network connection works under suse but not under karmic? are you using manual network settings or something?
[21:44] <zopiac> Can someone help me set up a full local network (with 1 WinXP machine, 1 Win7 machine, and Two Ubuntu machines)? I am having all sorts of problems...
[21:44] <munley> Please check it for me
[21:44] <munley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328827/
[21:44] <munley> the 16GB is empty
[21:44] <zopiac> Online how-tos have not helped at all
[21:44] <munley> and I coulndn't copy any file into it
[21:44] <epinky> zopiac: do you mean samba?
[21:45] <zopiac> epinky: yeah
[21:45] <skyl> vistro, sudo apt-get remove --purge edubuntu-desktop ... just a guess, use at your own risk ...
[21:45] <acicula> munley: it is mounted read/write
[21:45] <vistro> whats the worst it can do?
[21:45] <munley> it was partition as GPT by APPLE
[21:45] <zopiac> Right now, the win7 computer can see all of the shared folders, but upon trying to access them it says that they are not there
[21:45] <egle> acicula, I've tried to do the same network mananer setting on 9.10, but no luck, then I've tried sodo pppoeconf and now all is scewefd
[21:45] <acicula> munley: problem seems to be the permissions on the usb stick
[21:45] <munley> What now? What do I do next??
[21:45] <munley> yes permissions, I did release it all
[21:46] <n8tuser> egle -> try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[21:46] <munley> I release it all in Mac
[21:46] <gdiz> thank you everyone for your help
[21:46] <zopiac> And my one ubuntu computer only shows me the WinXP machine, but hangs upon trying to connect to it.
[21:46] <munley> I have already done it
[21:46] <skyl> vistro, leave your system completely crippled with no X server and make it so that you can barely get to a command line, idk
[21:46] <munley> but still, cannot do anything
[21:46] <acicula> munley: release?
[21:46] <calwig> jpds, thx
[21:46] <munley> only read,  but not write
[21:46] <vistro> so I'm stuck with a crappy deriative
[21:46] <jpds> munley: Change the permissions to your user?
[21:46] <eurytus> microphone dont workint. can anyone can help?
[21:46] <jpds> !enter | munley
[21:46] <Iowan> zopiac: there are a couple of How-To's on the forum.
[21:46] <skyl> vistro, nah, let me see here
[21:46] <munley> I changed the permission when the USB was pluged in mac, with Everybody = read and Write
[21:47] <acicula> munley: no support for that under linux i think, the link i posted, suggested sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/common, that removes any file permissions, replace /mnt/common with the locaiton of the usb stick
[21:47] <jimbeam12> ubuntu rocks
[21:47] <zopiac> Iowan: so far i have looked at three and have not had any success
[21:47] <munley> if I didn't change, it won't work EITHER
[21:47] <vistro> I'm trying to install KDE but I really don't want to be stuck with half the stuff in my appications menu starting with K
[21:47] <munley> both won't work
[21:47] <jimbeam12> whos thinks ubuntu rocks?
[21:47] <epinky> zopiac: open a terminal and type "smbtree"
[21:47] <egle> n8tuser, thanks, but could you tell me where all my other settings have gone, eg my work wireless, autoech0 etc???
[21:47] <munley> no matter I change or not change, it won't work
[21:47] <acicula> munley: did you try chmod under ubuntu?
[21:48] <munley> nope, not user
[21:48] <munley> just everybody
[21:48] <munley> the term "everybody"
[21:48] <skyl> vistro, yeah, uninstall --purge should be fine for edubuntu-desktop and then maybe install kubuntu-desktop after that ..
[21:48] <n8tuser> egle -> normally its in /etc/network/interfaces  but if it got modified and not saved.. then you lost it
[21:48] <skyl> or ubuntu-desktop or whatever you want
[21:48] <munley> how?
[21:48] <zopiac> epinky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328834/
[21:48] <munley> chmod??? who?
[21:48] <vistro> but what if I want GNOME?
[21:48] <acicula> munley:  sudo chmod -R 777 /media/16GB
[21:48] <munley> teach me
[21:48] <munley> ok
[21:49] <egle> n8tuser, will I be albe to configure it manually again?
[21:49] <acicula> might have to do that again when you use the stick in the mac again
[21:49] <AMorozov> munley: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/109310-hfs-read-write-all-users.html
[21:49] <skyl> vistro, trying to get rid of KDE, ,eh?  I thought you said you wanted kde
[21:49] <munley> wait please
[21:49] <jimbeam12> zopiac,  u think ubuntu rocks
[21:49] <AMorozov> just few seconds of googling
[21:49] <n8tuser> egle yes, man interfaces for more details please
[21:49] <zopiac> jimbeam12: yes...
[21:49] <skyl> ubuntu-desktop has gnome of course
[21:49] <vistro> I only want it becaue it's the only desktop that's new to this machine and hasn't been royally fudged yet
[21:50] <jimbeam12> i was about to throw in the towel yesterday with this ati drivers...luckily it was fixed
[21:50] <egle> n8tuser, sorry?
[21:50] <n8tuser> egle yes, man interfaces for more details please  <--- which part you dont follow?
[21:50] <munley> Error while copying to "16GB" The destination is read-only
[21:51] <Dessan> munley, what partition type is this drive?
[21:51] <egle> n8tuser,  "man interfaces etc"... :)
[21:51] <Midnigh2ker> evening guys. the Palmpsest Disk Utility in Karmic is immense  -is there any way of getting the SMART Report out of the app and into, say a text file?
[21:51] <n8tuser> egle on a terrminal type   man interfaces
[21:51] <munley> Dessan "Apple januaral extendend
[21:51] <epinky> zopiac: why is it trying access to that IP? 63.123.X.Y and on that port ?
[21:51] <munley> Jouranal extend
[21:51] <zopiac> epinky: im not sure. I know next to nothing about networks
[21:52] <socomm> ubuntu sucks
[21:52]  * socomm ducks
[21:52] <acicula> munley: then i dont know either
[21:52] <munley> GPT with Journal
[21:52] <munley> ................................
[21:52] <egle> n8tuser, it says it's configured for ifup and ifdown, how could I get it to default postinstall???
[21:52] <munley> I think OpenSolaris will do the job
[21:53] <munley> I am sure I will erase all my 3 Ubuntu and changes them to OpenSolaris
[21:53] <n8tuser> egle kindly read that man pages.. more details to it.. spend some time with it
[21:53] <munley> this is ridicious
[21:53] <IdleOne> munley: that is your choice
[21:53] <acicula> munley: ok, also complain to apple about providing drivers for their fs while you are at it
[21:53] <Midnigh2ker> munley: you're trying to mount an apple disk as read/write?
[21:54] <socomm> lol
[21:54] <munley> acicula, Apple did nothing wrong
[21:54] <acicula> Midnigh2ker: yeah he is, mount shows it as mounted rw
[21:54] <socomm> isn't apple ufs?
[21:54] <socomm> UFS
[21:54] <munley> I am not a apple fan, but in this issue, it's all Ubuntu's fault
[21:54] <egle> n8tuser, thanks I am just a user though, pretty new to linux...
[21:54] <acicula> munley: for not taking the time to implement support for an other os's fs/
[21:54] <munley> nope, midnight2ker
[21:54] <mynameguy> hi guy my Core 2 duo T7900 averages at 57 C and second 50C in idle state and goes to 62 C in load. Are these normal temperatures?
[21:54] <Dessan> munley, acicula, I'm pretty sure Apple is HFS+ for journaled
[21:54] <socomm> HFS, nevermind
[21:54] <n8tuser> egle then dont mess with something beyond what you understand now, kindly do some tutorials on networking
[21:54] <Midnigh2ker> munley: so its mounted as r/w but you cannot write to it?
[21:55] <munley> Journaled yes
[21:55] <eurytus> microphone dont workint. can anyone can help?
[21:55] <epinky> zopiac: "gksudo gedit /etc/nsswitch.conf"
[21:55] <munley> it's Journaled extend
[21:55] <smknight_> mynameguy: nothing to worry about
[21:55] <munley> that's right, midnight2ker
[21:55] <zopiac> epinky: why gksudo? :P
[21:55] <Dessan> munley, have you read this: http://www.ubuntuproductivity.com/journal/macintosh/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/
[21:55] <Dessan> ?
[21:55] <n8tuser> he is far to lazy to read those
[21:55] <n8tuser> too*
[21:56] <Midnigh2ker> munley: open a terminal, run `sudo -i` to get root permissions and then `cd` to where the drive is mounted
[21:56] <mynameguy> smknight_ : are they not a bit high temperatures? ...can we reduce them?
[21:56] <socomm> n8tuser: you can lead horse to river but you can't make it drink
[21:56] <socomm> n8tuser: lol
[21:56] <Iowan> zopiac: gksudo for graphical editor
[21:56] <epinky> zopiac: it's graphical sudo for gedit use
[21:56] <munley> slow down.. plz
[21:56] <acicula> !root | Midnigh2ker
[21:56] <n8tuser> socomm  :P
[21:56] <zopiac> but sudo works fine, right?
[21:56] <egle> n8tuser, thanks, I am really messed up now, I so afraid I'll loose my data, and I will not be able to finish my paper on time because of no internet... thanks anyway
[21:56] <smknight_> mynameguy: optimize your airflow, put in another casefan, clean your case..
[21:56] <calwig> jpds, worked, thanks. How can I make that a default setting on the encrypt section of the menu button in ubuntu (when you right click on a file and set encrypt)
[21:56] <Midnigh2ker> acicula: whats the problem?
[21:56] <epinky> !gksudo > zopiac
[21:56] <smknight_> but you dont need to worry about 60c
[21:56] <n8tuser> egle you have access now via suse, so it should be okay too eh?
[21:57] <zopiac> epinky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328839/
[21:57] <munley> midnight2ker : How to get to my 16GB?
[21:57] <mynameguy> ok should I buy a case fan then?
[21:57] <munley> cd 16GB?????
[21:57] <Midnigh2ker> munley: running the command `mount` should tell you where it is mounted
[21:57] <munley> just cd /16gb?
[21:57] <Berzerker> mynameguy, 50C is a bit high for idle, but 62C for load is fine.
[21:57] <egle> n8tuser, no... suse is leaving in 30mins...
[21:57] <acicula> Midnigh2ker: was hoping that gave the anti-root policy
[21:58] <larrxi> I updated kernel to 2.6.32-rc8, do i need to do something do get my fglrx working?
[21:58] <smknight_> mynameguy: why not
[21:58] <mynameguy> berserker: is this OS fault or hardware fault?
[21:58] <Midnigh2ker> acicula: except i need the user to be root to test if this fixes his problem.
[21:58] <socomm> larrxi: pray ;P
[21:58] <n8tuser> egle you can try to use the livecd, then mount your partition and write to it when saving..
[21:58] <mynameguy> smknight_: ok
[21:58] <smknight_> wont hurt
[21:58] <acicula> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328827/ was his mount output
[21:58] <smknight_> what are the case temps
[21:58] <munley> ......................
[21:58] <Reformer81> When using photorec, is it possible to specify a minimum filesize to recover?
[21:58] <smknight_> != cpu temp
[21:58] <Midnigh2ker> acicula: ty
[21:58] <epinky> zopiac: ok, make a backup of that file and modify hosts line (nº 11) with "hosts:  	files wins dns"
[21:58] <bastidrazor> munley: you're not listening to the advice the people are giving you. i smell troll
[21:58] <acicula> he has the stick mounted twice btw
[21:58] <zopiac> epinky: gotcha
[21:58] <mynameguy> smknight_ : by touching the case temperature is high
[21:58] <larrxi> socomm, nothing like rebuilding module or something simple?
[21:59] <egle> n8tuser, I have nothing with me here, but thanks anyway...
[21:59] <acicula> as vfat and as hsfplus
[21:59] <munley> I spent my whole week just to get a file copy from Ubuntu to Mac via a 16GB USB pendrive, and it just won't work
[21:59] <Midnigh2ker> munley: it was mounted at '/media/16GB' so `cd /media/16GB` will do
[21:59] <smknight_> mynameguy: you should have a mainboard temperature sensor
[21:59] <mynameguy> ok smknight_ please tell how to download it?
[21:59] <munley> -bash: cd: /media/16gb: No such file or directory
[21:59] <munley> -bash: cd: /media/16gb: No such file or directory
[21:59] <Dessan> munley, is there any real reason this pendrive needs to be HFS?
[22:00] <mynameguy> smknight_ : I am new to linux os generally
[22:00] <munley> I told you, Dessan!! only HFS can handle 4.2GB single file
[22:00] <grodius> does anyone know how to change the animated ubuntu loading screen at the beginning of karmic ?
[22:00] <munley> FAT32 will fail
[22:00] <babbio> i cannot mount the hard disk.....ubuntu say to me "unable to mount" wat can i do????
[22:00] <Dessan> munley, type sudo mount and tell us the result that refers to 16gb
[22:00] <tony8987> The bootsplash?
[22:00] <babbio> i'm on a live cd
[22:00] <Midnigh2ker> munley: pastebin the output from `mount`
[22:00] <bastidrazor> munley: then you something besides those two choices. ext2 or ext3
[22:00] <zopiac> epinky: now what? smbtree again?
[22:01] <munley> sudo mount?
[22:01] <bastidrazor> !troll | munley
[22:01] <iMatter> I just installed ati fglrx and rebooted and it shows half of my bakground with weird pixels and a black spot a the top how can I fix
[22:01] <munley> slow down please eveyrone
[22:01] <munley> sudo mount?
[22:01] <munley> ok
[22:01] <epinky> zopiac: post results of "more /etc/nsswitch.conf", just to check
[22:01] <Dessan> munley, ext3 will handle up to 16gb in one file
[22:01] <ardchoille> munley: you don't need sudo just to list mounts
[22:01] <DrRobinTosh> Ok, So if i want to host a website off my server, and i have a Dynamic IP, how do i do it>
[22:01] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[22:01] <socomm> lol slow down
[22:01] <socomm> 'ello
[22:01] <acicula> DrRobinTosh: dyndns
[22:02] <munley> there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/328846/
[22:02] <munley> please help
[22:02] <Dessan> ardchoille, no he doesn't but I want him to just get used to typing sudo as the rest of this will be riddled with them.
[22:02] <n8tuser> DrRobinTosh -> do you need your user to find you? is  it for internal network only?
[22:02] <ardchoille> Dessan: Ah, good job
[22:02] <DrRobinTosh> erm... user to find it
[22:02] <Pira> cannot change monitor resolution on 9.04 (its stuck at 800x600) any ideas?
[22:02] <munley> Dessan but mac doesn't recgnize ext3
[22:02] <sobersabre> does anybody around here use a TEAC webcam ?
[22:02] <soreau> Pira: Which graphics card?
[22:03] <zopiac> epinky: well smbtree shows more now, still only one of the computers though.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/328845/ More command shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328847/
[22:03] <n8tuser> DrRobinTosh -> yes, like how would you find www.craigslist.org
[22:03] <Dessan> munley, yes mac does
[22:03] <Midnigh2ker> munley: can you not copy it over the network?
[22:03] <Dessan> :)
[22:03] <n8tuser> !who
[22:03] <babbio> somebody can help me mounting my hard disk????
[22:03] <Pira> soreau: Via Technologies
[22:03] <ardchoille> I'm using conky in Jaunty and I'd like to fetch the CPU temperature. What can I do to accomplish this?
[22:03] <munley> Mac only recognize Apple partitions or MBR or APT or ext2 I guess
[22:03] <soreau> Pira: Do you know which graphics driver you are using?
[22:03] <epinky> zopiac: Linux part is done :)
[22:03] <Pira> soreau: no, how do I find out?
[22:03] <munley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328846/
[22:03] <n8tuser> ardchoille -> not sure if dmidecode has hooks for it..
[22:03] <DrRobinTosh>  yes
[22:04] <dixon_1> where can I see if I installed ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit?
[22:04] <Pira> soreau: i think it might be xorg
[22:04] <Reformer81> When using photorec, is it possible to specify a minimum filesize to recover?
[22:04] <munley> What do I do next??
[22:04] <soreau> Pira: Your X log will tell you (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[22:04] <Dessan> munley, did you take a peek at the link I listed for you?
[22:04] <bastidrazor> ardchoille: lm-sensors .. install that package and read this :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:04] <zopiac> epinky: as in, I can see the other linux computer? or now i have to modify the linux computers
[22:04] <zvacet> dixon_1 : uname -r
[22:04] <munley> Dessan, yes I did
[22:04] <eurytus> microphone dont workint. can anyone can help?
[22:04] <zvacet> dixon_1 : or uname -a
[22:04] <dixon_1> zvacet: 2.6.28-16-generic?
[22:04] <epinky> zopiac: what's the other linux computer(name)?
[22:05] <munley> Dessan, you mean I have to erase all my OS to re-partition to ext3??
[22:05] <Dessan> munley, have you followed any of the steps listed?
[22:05] <sobersabre> munley: Mac has fuse too, so you can use many more partition types.
[22:05] <dixon_1> zvacet: uname -a it was
[22:05] <munley> Dessan, yes I follow you
[22:05] <zopiac> epinky: well BODEFAMILY3 is the WinXP machine. Not sure about the other ubuntu computer's name, hold on
[22:05] <mynameguy> do lm-sensors work with thinkpad?
[22:05] <mynameguy> do lm-sensors work with thinkpad T61?
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> dixon_1, specifically it's "uname -m" - if it's x86_64 then you're using 64bit
[22:05] <sobersabre> mynameguy: what do you need to monitor ?
[22:05] <naples_guy> does using cd and a relative path only work for one directory further?  for example, /usr/local/etc...  if my current "working" directory is usr, and I type cd ./etc, I get "no such" However, if I type cd local, I get local, and cd etc, i get etc.
[22:05] <ardchoille> bastidrazor: That will work, thanks
[22:06] <bastidrazor> ardchoille: once you have your sensors up and running read this :: http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html  also there is a #conky channel
[22:06] <Dessan> munley, from your mount output i can tell you have not followed any of the steps on the link I sent.
[22:06] <munley> Why don't you just try your own 16GB pendrive and you'll see what I encountered
[22:06] <acicula> mynameguy: probably
[22:06] <mynameguy> sobersabre: my CPU temp at Idle is 58c and 50c dual core
[22:06] <naples_guy> could i navigate to etc from usr through a relative path
[22:06] <naples_guy> ?
[22:06] <ardchoille> bastidrazor: Ah, nice. Thanks again :)
[22:06] <zopiac> epinky: the other ubuntu machine is UbuntuBodeFamily4
[22:06] <munley> Dessan, then tell me one more time
[22:06] <munley> plz
[22:06] <dixon_1> ZykoticK9, zvacet; thanks for your help
[22:06] <mynameguy> are these normal for Core 2 duo T7900?
[22:06] <larrxi> how to get dkms to build fglrx for new kernel?
[22:06] <bastidrazor> ardchoille: good luck, i am a fan of conky also. very nice application.
[22:06] <zvacet> dixon_1:Linux abak 2.6.31-15-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 16:12:10 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux  this is my 32 bit
[22:06] <sobersabre> mynameguy: it depends on your ambient temperature. where do you live ? :)
[22:06] <epinky> zopiac: is a samba SERVER running on UbuntuBodeFamily4?
[22:06] <Dessan> munley, http://www.ubuntuproductivity.com/journal/macintosh/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/
[22:06] <Pira> soreau: OPENCHROME: Driver for VIA Chrome chipsets: CLE266, KM400/KN400,
[22:06] <Pira> 	K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400, P4M800Pro/VN800/CN700,
[22:06] <Pira> 	K8M890/K8N890, P4M900/VN896/CN896, CX700/VX700, P4M890, VX800
[22:06] <Pira> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
[22:06] <FloodBot2> Pira: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <dixon_1> zvacet: I now know I'm running 64 bit
[22:07] <zopiac> epinky: not sure, ill check
[22:07] <munley> Dessan, ............ it's
[22:07] <soreau> Pira: Have you checked sys>prefs>display?
[22:07] <zvacet> dixon_1:  good
[22:07] <Dessan> munley, once you follow those steps I'll be glad to help more
[22:07] <mynameguy> sobersabre: India, bangalore avg temp here right now is 25 c
[22:07] <ardchoille> bastidrazor: Yeah, I replaced GKRELLm with conky and am very happy
[22:07] <Pira> soreau: yup, thats the first place I went
[22:07] <Dessan> munley, Until then you are not even attempting to listen to anyone who has tried to help.
[22:08] <munley> Dessan it's sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/common right?
[22:08] <munley> I did!!!!
[22:08] <zopiac> epinky: samba is installed, i believe the network is running on it
[22:08] <Pira> soreau: the i tried to change the effects on (desktop effect) I can't enable it though
[22:08] <Iowan> naples_guy: you could - being very explicit
[22:08] <munley> Dessan, I am trying
[22:08] <munley> chmod: cannot access `/mnt/common': No such file or directory
[22:09] <munley> Dessan, it says chmod: cannot access `/mnt/common': No such file or directory
[22:09] <munley> and common is not my 16GB
[22:09] <naples_guy> Iowan, i thought a relative path would be like ./directory I want... but it's not working out that way
[22:09] <sobersabre> mynameguy: my PC with amd athlong 4200+ cpu has 52 deg. C
[22:09] <sobersabre> I am in a place of about your temp.
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> naples_guy, you need two dots like ../directory
[22:09] <jpds> calwig: No idea, I only use gpg on the command line.
[22:09] <Dessan> Anyone else want to help munley I'm tired of feeding the trolls
[22:09] <naples_guy> lets all talk about the weather
[22:10] <Iowan> naples_guy:  . is current dir, .. is parent so from /usr cd ../etc should take you to /etc
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> naples_guy, one dot is current directory
[22:10] <sobersabre> 50-55 is ok.
[22:10] <munley> I am not trolls
[22:10] <soreau> Pira: Only a select few via chipsets have the hw capabilities required to run compiz. I believe you need to use the via driver and not open chrome
[22:10] <epinky> zopiac: before you proceed, what exactly you want to do with UbuntuBodeFamily4, will it share something?
[22:10] <bastidrazor> Dessan: let him be, munley has failed to listen to one set of instructions since joining.
[22:10] <munley> I did what you told me,
[22:10] <zopiac> epinky: it is irrelevant; i was just stating that it was on the network.
[22:10] <zopiac> epinky: my main concern is with the Win7 machine
[22:11] <skyl> so, if the HD is known to be on it's last leg and the CD checked-out okay ... good chance that the bad HD gave me the error ...
[22:11] <soreau> Pira: Consider /msg FusioBot via
[22:11] <egle> Coul anyone please help to reset all network settings??? Ive done some bad things I guess... I really need help
[22:11] <naples_guy> yes!  thanks!
[22:11] <micheal> where is the trash located?
[22:11] <epinky> zopiac: is it sharing something at this very moment?
[22:11] <bastidrazor> !trash | micheal
[22:11] <zopiac> epinky: yes
[22:11] <Pira> soreau: i don't really want to run compiz, just want a higher resolution so windows aren't so huge
[22:11] <skyl> and not the disk ... can the disk be bad and the check say that it is good?
[22:11] <munley> bastidrazor, you are smearing me
[22:11] <zopiac> epinky: i just set its Pictures folder to Shared
[22:11] <munley> I rarely come up here
[22:11] <bastidrazor> munley: you are not listening to their instructions.
[22:12] <munley> That's your term
[22:12] <Iowan> egle: I'm willing to try...
[22:12] <epinky> zopiac: WindozeXP can see it?
[22:12] <bazhang> munley, what's the issue
[22:12] <munley> bastidrazor : That's your term
[22:12] <CarlFK> I think my laptop's built in webcam is confusing xsane scanning - I think I need to specify the device so I don't get scanimage -L = "device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname CKA7216 virtual device"  any suggestions?
[22:12] <soreau> Pira: Well you probably want to install the driver VIA offers for your card. Check Sys>Admin>Hardware Drivers to see if it offers anything
[22:12] <zopiac> epinky: dunno; it would take a while to check, too. It's my dad's computer, and is virus-ridden
[22:12] <munley> bazhang : nothing, I think I will go quietly
[22:13] <micheal> ubottu: how to i empty it?
[22:13] <soreau> Pira: Alternatively you can probably go to the via site and see if they offer one for your card
[22:13] <egle> Iowan, thanks, I would appreaciate your help
[22:13] <jules_baud> hi there , this is kind of hello world
[22:13] <Pira> soreau: ok, thanks
[22:13] <Iowan> egle: To put networking back, comment out all but the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:13] <epinky> zopiac: You need to check to confirm that it's not Vista issue
[22:13] <Iowan> egle: that deal with configuring "lo"
[22:14] <zopiac> epinky: im working on it, slowly :)
[22:14] <egle> Iowan, It say auto lo
[22:14] <zopiac> epinky: but what is Vista issue?
[22:14] <iMatter> How would I go about reverting to old graphic drivers like the open source ones instead of restricted
[22:14] <Iowan> egle: is that all?
[22:14] <skyl> currently the grub looks for sda1 first and then boots to it ... if I install a new disk at sdc1 ... can I get grub to default to that one and how?
[22:14] <egle> Iowan, shuold I leave only those two lines?
[22:14] <epinky> zopiac: I mean it's not a Vista misconfiguration
[22:15] <Iowan> Yes - for default configuration
[22:15] <bastidrazor> iMatter: in the restricted manager uninstall/deactivate them.
[22:15] <egle> Iowan, It says: auto lo/ iface lo inet loopback
[22:15] <vadi2> How can I make Ubuntu the default boot OS? SUM doesn't work for Karmic
[22:15] <zopiac> epinky: Win7 could be replaced with VIsta in Vista issue, correct?
[22:15] <Iowan> egle: That's what it should look like...
[22:16] <epinky> zopiac: lol, Vista Win7 whatever XD, sry
[22:16] <zopiac> epinky: ok, the WinXP computer can only see itself in the Network. This ubuntu computer can only see it, and win7 computer can see everything, but not access it
[22:16] <trijntje> !googlearth
[22:16] <zopiac> :P
[22:16] <iMatter> bazhang: Thats the thing since enabling and rebooting ubuntu shows half of my background and a black space ontop with weird pixels at very tool
[22:16] <egle> Iowan, should I delete the folders in /etc/network?
[22:16] <Iowan> Not yet!!
[22:16] <Iowan> egle: NOT YET!!
[22:16] <zopiac> epinky: UbuntuBodeFamily4 can only see the WinXP machine, as well :\
[22:17] <epinky> zopiac: then you've got to make Win7 visible, don't ask me how :)
[22:17] <egle> Iowan, I cannot modify the file
[22:17] <zopiac> epinky: lol, fun...
[22:17] <zopiac> epinky: well thanks for your help so far/
[22:17] <mynameguy> guys right now my Thinkpad T61 is averaging 58C and 51C CPU core temperatures. I think these are high right?
[22:18] <Reformer81> When using photorec, is it possible to specify a minimum filesize to recover?
[22:18] <micheal> how do i empty the trash?
[22:18] <Iowan> egle: Poor memory - I just checked my /etc/network dir... no, don't delete those files
[22:18] <micheal> how do i empty the trash?
[22:18] <brennus> ok, question: I'm installing Ubuntu on my friend
[22:19] <epinky> zopiac: you're welcome :) , configuration on Win7 must be done good luck
[22:19] <bastidrazor> micheal: delete everything in the trash folder or normally you have a trashcan icon on the toolbar.
[22:19] <micheal> how do i get to the trash folder tho?
[22:19] <RiGeL2> :o rigel :o
[22:19] <bastidrazor> !trash | micheal
[22:19] <egle> Iowan, what should I do then?
[22:20] <Iowan> egle: If those are the only two lines in the file, you don't need to change it.
[22:20] <bastidrazor> micheal: ~/ is a shortcut for /home/micheal
[22:20] <egle> Iowan, I cannot make it like that, I cannot modify the file...
[22:20] <Iowan> egle: if you do need to change it, use sudo nano or gksudo gedit
[22:20] <skyl> !vim
[22:21] <brennus> ok, question: I'm installing Ubuntu on my friend's dell laptop which has an intel "core duo" (not dual core? Not core 2 Cuo)... the liveCD recognizes it as i686, but not 64-bit? Says I can't install the 64-bit version... am I  missing something, or should I just install the 32-bit?
[22:21] <skyl> !code
[22:22] <valkoinenpulu> 'ello
[22:22] <skyl> brennus, 32bit x86 is less pain even on a real 64-bit chip from what i have experienced
[22:22] <plitter> is there a way to connect amarok to the gnome password keeper than to kdewallet?
[22:22] <Berzerker> brennus, a core duo is dual core, but it's not 64-bit.
[22:22] <egle> Iowan, how to save it with nano? :)
[22:23] <brennus> berzerker: thank you. perfect. I'll go ahead with the 32-bit.
[22:23] <HilBilly> Unless you are doing extremely intensive graphics/animation creation, the you don't want the hassles of 64 bit.
[22:23] <VCoolio> Iowan: ctrl+o, enter, it's mentioned at the bottom
[22:23] <egle> Iowan, done!!!
[22:23] <HilBilly> control-x saves in nano..
[22:23] <Berzerker> ctrl-x, y, enter
[22:24] <nmartin> Hey y'all I am running my instance of Ubuntu in Sun's virtualbox and when I increased the resolution to fit my screen it runs super slow
[22:24] <Berzerker> save and quit
[22:24] <Iowan> egle: instructions @ bottom of screen, but... outtyped again
[22:24] <nmartin> Can someone point me to the resolution?
[22:24] <egle> Iowan, its done, sorry :)
[22:24] <egle> Iowan, what is next?
[22:24] <bastidrazor> nmartin: possibly a good place to ask is #vbox
 :wq is god's way of saving a file and exiting the editor :P
[22:24] <shooree> hey, I would like to install java on karmic. What's the usual way to do it? I bet there's more bother free way than manually downloading and installing
[22:25] <Iowan> egle: OK restart/reboot - I prefer reboot to get NM synched
[22:25] <brennus> shooree: best way is to go into synaptic, and install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras .
[22:25] <egle> Iowan, rebooting
[22:25] <nmartin> bastidrazor Ill try that thanx
[22:25] <poutine> Why does the /etc/nsswitch.conf have mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] before "dns"? It causes people with local BIND nameservers to have errors with some applications
[22:25] <bastidrazor> nmartin: good luck.
[22:25] <Iowan> egle: Sorry for delay - I type even slower than I think...
[22:26] <pitt> hallo eva
[22:26] <skyl> why does it say  that my partition tables have changed on sda and sdb when I'm installing/formatting sdc, oh well, fingers crossed ...
[22:27] <shooree> brennus, I apparently have it installed
[22:27] <Iowan> egle: ...and my brain runs pretty slow
[22:27] <valkoinenpulu> I got my laptop a new HDD, now done installing all I want etc and so forth, but I left many of my files on the old HDD and planned to just plug it in, via SATA-USB cable, and move all the files to my new HDD. Problem is, I forgot I had encrypted my /home directory. How should I go about getting it open? (got the encrypt password-or-whatcha-callit for it). Pointer to what to google for would help too
[22:27] <shooree> brennus, but when I try to run a java app, it doesn't know what to open i with
[22:27] <brennus> shooree: and java is still not installed?
[22:27] <egle> Iowan, Ok, it seems back to normal, back to default. No worries mine are like that. Is that all for reseting?
[22:27] <acicula> valkoinenpulu: dunno, but ecryptfs is what you should google for i think
[22:27] <shooree> brennus, java verification on java.com fails also in ffox
[22:27] <Vashta_Nerada> I want to set up a firewall on a legacy computer to act as a go-between between my webserver and the internet.  Can anyone recommend the application best to use and a manual, so I can rtfm?
[22:27] <Subby> I have a big problem. My Ubuntu got fully stuck several times a day, not even F1-Switch works.  Das anybody know what this is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/328855/
[22:28] <shooree> brennus, should I try reinstalling the package?
[22:28] <brennus> shooree: search synaptic for java
[22:28] <shooree> ok
[22:28] <jeez1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/328859/ can someone help me fix synaptic?
[22:28] <skyl> !iptables
[22:28] <epinky> Vashta_Nerada: IPCop
[22:28] <Iowan> egle: Well, that's all I'm aware of... possibly more wrong - but good starting place
[22:28] <shooree> brennus, and then what?
[22:29] <egle> Iowan, thanks a lot, there's even my job wireless overthere... thanks a lot...
[22:29] <DjAngo23> How to add a client to a DHCP server ?
[22:29] <daf_> does anyone know of a fix for the problem with not being able to turn of dim? I unchecked it in power management for with and without battery but it still dims when watching a movie in VLC and MOVIE PLAYER
[22:29] <shooree> brennus, a bunch of it is already installed, including java-common and other stuff
[22:29] <Iowan> egle: good luck!
[22:29] <daf_> off
[22:30] <brennus> shooree: well the restricted extras should do it for you. do you have java-common installed?
[22:30] <shooree> brennus, yes I do. I wonder what is wrong
[22:30] <Vashta_Nerada> thank you ubottu and epinky: i will rtfm
[22:30] <DJAshnar> For firewalls, hit www.distrowatch.com
[22:30] <Iowan> DjAngo23: manual address?
[22:30] <shooree> brennus, I never had any problems with java in jaunty. That's why I'm confus now.
[22:31] <DjAngo23> Iowan, It' s an IP.
[22:31] <Jeruvy> if I select "print" -> PDF, where does the pdf end up?
[22:31] <DjAngo23> Iowan, sorry a https://10.1.1.10
[22:31] <brennus> shooree: the best I can suggest is reinstalling. Many people are discovering new problems in Karmic that we're all hoping will be fixed for the LTS release coming up
[22:31] <skyl> so, the install failed with my good HDD too ... grr ... speed=40 might be too much ... for cdrecord? ... what is an absolutely safe speed?  I figurre 30 seconds to burnn the iso was a little fast ...
[22:31] <bastidrazor> shooree: where on java.com do yousee a java validator?
[22:32] <shooree> brennus, very well then. I will try reinstalling the entire restricted extras thing. thanks
[22:32] <pedro> hi
[22:32] <pedro> HOLAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:32] <shooree> brennus, http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.6.0_0&vendor=Sun+Microsystems+Inc.&os=Linux&os_version=2.6.31-15-generic
[22:32] <jongie> !hi | pedro
[22:32] <pedro> bonsoirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[22:32] <pedro> hi jongie
[22:32] <DjAngo23> pedro, French >?
[22:32] <jongie> !es | pedro
[22:33] <DjAngo23> !fr pedro
[22:33] <pedro> spanish! englisj 50% french 90%
[22:33] <epinky> pedro: Que hongo mi champiñon?
[22:33] <pedro> hey COMPADRE!
[22:33] <pedro> soy de aca del NORTE !!
[22:33] <pedro> y a como BATALLO con esta ubuntu! soy WIndows full :(
[22:33] <epinky> pedro: go to #ubuntu-es
[22:33] <uae_38> hello???
[22:33] <Iowan> DjAngo23: Not ignoring you...
[22:34] <sync3times> uae_38, hi
[22:34] <shooree> brennus, no luck :/ it still opens my java app with gedit. what a shame. I can't believe this.
[22:34] <shooree> anyway, thanks for your time
[22:34] <pedro> i have  a question!
[22:34] <uae_38> who is going to "support" me??!?
[22:34] <uae_38> :D
[22:35] <pedro> alguien habla espanol
[22:35] <Iowan> !ask | pedro
[22:35] <pedro> french
[22:35] <Pici> !es |  pedro
[22:36] <pedro> thank
[22:36] <Iowan> DjAngo23: What do you need to do?
[22:36] <sync3times> uae_38, we will have a team right out sir, please hold on
[22:36] <uae_38> i got this error in the black screen "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8 , 1)"
[22:37] <sync3times> uae_38, yeah, thats a bad one.   sounds like your root filesystem is fried
[22:37] <uae_38> what i can do for it??
[22:38] <sync3times> uae_38, was your user data on a separate home partition?
[22:38] <uae_38> no i install it inside windows
[22:38] <uae_38> using wubi
[22:38] <sync3times> uae_38, how long ago?
[22:39] <uae_38> yesterday
[22:39] <sebsebseb> uae_38: Wubi can go wrong on people, also in the long run it's better to use real partitions :)
[22:39] <sync3times> uae_38, how many times did you reboot the computer since then?
[22:39] <sync3times> dont know wbui
[22:39] <uae_38> i cant remember
[22:40] <uae_38> 2 or 3 times
[22:40] <josvuk> I uncommended load-sample-dir-lazy x11-bee ..... and load-module-x11-bell in the /etc/pulse/default.pa loged out and again in
[22:40] <sync3times> uae_38, sorry, i have never used wubi.
[22:40] <josvuk> [20:22] <josvuk> But still don't have a beep.
[22:40] <josvuk> [20:22] <josvuk> Waht can I do?
[22:40] <Ddorda> is it possible to open .mus files (finale) on Ubuntu?
[22:40] <josvuk> Hi, I have a beep problem with printf("\a"); it doesn't beeb
[22:41] <linuxguy2009> Hello everyone I'm about to drive into town to buy a cordless mouse for my Dell Mini 10v which is running 9.10 netbook edition. Is there a list somewhere of cordless mice that work out of the box in 9.10? Also if its compatible with Ubuntu would that mean that its pretty much universally compatible with pretty much all Linux distros because of the shared main linux kernel?
[22:41] <josvuk> in the terminal, How do fix it?
[22:41] <DjAngo23> Iowan, After installing ldap, my wiki tells me to set ad the client ip to the DHCp server : 10.1.1.10. After that mount the files. But i bug on the DHCP server
[22:41] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  linuxguy2009
[22:41] <pedro> how install a packege in ubuntu as download to internet?
[22:41] <pedro> how install a packege in ubuntu as download to internet?
[22:42] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: thank you
[22:42] <Timmymayes> anyone familiar with wmctrl?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: np
[22:43] <Timmymayes> or in general I need to figure out a way for a python script to determine the currently active window
[22:43] <coreGrl> hi
[22:43] <mostapha> I have formated a flash memeroy from Ubuntu to with the first choice fromat, which was FAT which should be compatible with Ubuntu, but after I formated it doesn't get even mounted, any ideas?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> coreGrl: hi
[22:43] <sync3times> coreGrl, hi
[22:43] <baselios> I need to translate a command in shell to ANT command $SVN_HOME/svn diff - -summarize -r "67214":"HEAD" | egrep "^[AM]" | sed 's/^[AM]\s*//g' | while read line ; do [ -f "$line" ] && echo "/"$line ; done > file       to an ANT  <containsregex pattern="^[AM]\s*${local.dir.workingcopy}" replace="/${svn.dir}" flags="i" byline="true" /> This doesn't work for me... someone that knows what's wrong ?
[22:43] <coreGrl> how can I know which channels are using the wifi connections that I see on ubuntu?
[22:43] <shooree> is "su" a valid command for taking over root? I get authentication failure with my root p/w when trying it
[22:43] <enrico_> hi
[22:43] <baselios> Sorry about the code injection
[22:44] <uae_38_> how can i fix this "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8 , 1)"?
[22:44] <enrico_> i have a problem with the read and write permission on ext4 permission, can you help me?
[22:44] <sync3times> coreGrl,  ipwlist  scanning
[22:44] <sync3times> coreGrl, iwlist scanning
[22:44] <Iowan> DjAngo23: Pardon my confusion - you need to set up static lease for the client?
[22:44] <enrico_> please help me
[22:45] <coreGrl> tanx
[22:45] <mostapha> I have formated a flash memeroy from Ubuntu to with the first choice fromat, which was FAT which should be compatible with Ubuntu, but after I formated it doesn't get even mounted, any ideas?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !permissions | enrico_
[22:45] <pedro> HELP MEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:46] <DjAngo23> Iowan, I think that is it. I just can' t translate the text founded in the wiki.
[22:46] <DjAngo23> in a better way
[22:46] <sobersabre> pedro: screaming this will surely help you.....
[22:46] <LjL> pedro: are you dying? being assaulted? what?
[22:46] <mostapha> Why is this room started to get useless when it's about help? Seriously it was one of the most helpful ways to get support for ubuntu but now it maybe the worst channel.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !terminal |  pedro
[22:46] <sebsebseb> pedro: sudo apt-get install package
[22:47] <raven_> is there a UNR specific channel?
[22:47] <Iowan> DjAngo23:  Which wiki - I'll have a look
[22:47] <nightcrow> hello
[22:47] <Clooluss> how can i get my power icon back? It has disappeared from the panel. I can create a simple "power off" icon but I'd like one that gives me the shutdown/ restart/ log off choice.
[22:47] <mostapha> For the last 7 times I tried to get help from this room, it was very hard to. Sometimes I left without getting my questions un-answered.
[22:47] <pedro> i need help! to install a package that i download ! i do'nt know who to install it
[22:47] <nightcrow> im looking for some help on something slightly complex, and i was hoping someone would be able to assit
[22:47] <DjAngo23> Iowan, Dutch and local :S
[22:47] <DjAngo23> Iowan, but kan give you a copy
[22:47] <sebsebseb> !ask |  nightcrow
[22:47] <enrico_> sebsebseb, thank you, but i want to compile the fstab to have the permission at startup system, can you help me?
[22:47] <nightcrow> well, the story goes like this, I have an image created with ghost.exe that i use to deploy on all my server. Up until now, I used tftpdserver.exe, set it to boot to pxe with a windows netbootdisk and the once the machine boots, i just run ghost.exe from the mapped drive and then deploy the image - but for some reason, it has stopped working.
[22:47] <pedro> but! i download de package to the web site i have de file in my FOLDER
[22:47] <LjL> pedro: as they told you, type "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[22:47] <nightcrow> sebsebseb, i was just about to
[22:48] <LjL> pedro: that's usually a bad idea.
[22:48] <nightcrow> :)
[22:48] <epinky> mostapha: what is the error?
[22:48] <LjL> pedro: what package is it?
[22:48] <pedro> ok!
[22:48] <pedro> ettercap
[22:48] <sebsebseb> enrico_: maybe, but try somene else
[22:48] <nightcrow> anyway
[22:48] <nightcrow> i figured that the best option is to use linux - but i dont know how to create a similar scenario
[22:48] <Iowan> DjAngo23: Uh-oh, I don't read Dutch :(
[22:48] <nightcrow> and i would need to use ghost.exe
[22:48] <nightcrow> but how would i create a net boot disk, im kinda confused
[22:48] <sobersabre> mostapha: after you formatted something did you eject it and reconnected it back ?
[22:48] <mostapha> epinky: I don't get an error. I just formatted the flash memory, then after it got formated it dissappered as if it was un-mounted.
[22:48] <LjL> pedro: ettercap is in the official repositories of ubuntu. you don't need to download it manually.
[22:48] <mostapha> sobersabre: No
[22:48] <LjL> pedro: type "sudo apt-get install ettercap" in a terminal.
[22:48] <nul> How do I add video modes to my monitor? (9.04, latest nvidia installed)
[22:49] <sobersabre> mostapha: what commands did you run during the format ?
[22:49] <sven_oostenbrink> pedro: apt-cache search ethercap
[22:49] <LjL> pedro: type "sudo apt-get install ettercap-gtk" if you want the graphical version.
[22:49] <sven_oostenbrink> pedro: then apt-get install packagename
[22:49] <mostapha> sobersabre: The gnome app, I didn't use commandline
[22:49] <pedro> excellente thx i trying right now
[22:49] <coreGrl> tanx  sync3times
[22:49] <pedro> thanks merci GRACIAS...
[22:49] <Ddorda> is it possible to open .mus files (finale) on Ubuntu?
[22:49] <nightcrow> any ideas or is my problem too complex?
[22:49] <sync3times> coreGrl, np
[22:49] <sobersabre> mostapha: well... while we're talking... why won't you try my suggestion ?
[22:49] <sven_oostenbrink> pedro: mexico?
[22:50] <mostapha> sobersabre: Ya I didn't try to reconnect it later, but I mean that it was unmounted before I plug it out.
[22:50] <mostapha> sobersabre: * did try
[22:50] <pedro> SI soy MEXICANO
[22:50] <sobersabre> mostapha: it can't be mounted if you formatted it.
[22:50] <lmanechine> I need a little help here to get into a channel for C programmers, this is my first time using mirc... so any idea?
[22:50] <sobersabre> if you formatted it, it should be unmounted.
[22:50] <pedro> what's up men?
[22:50] <mostapha> sobersabre: It shoud get mounted when I plugit in to write data on it. right?
[22:51] <hapt1K> hi all
[22:51] <mostapha> sobersabre: When I plug it in again it should be remounted?
[22:51] <hapt1K> ubuntu has suddenly stopped resolving host names
[22:51] <mostapha> sobersabre: right?
[22:51] <sobersabre> mostapha: I don't know what you did, but if you plug a flash disk into the system it should appear in your logs in /var/log/syslog
[22:51] <hapt1K> i get my dns from the router and all my other machines are doing lookups fine
[22:51] <sobersabre> mostapha: and this doesn't depend on what is on that flash disk.
[22:52] <sobersabre> mostapha: it is right if you indeed formatted the flash disk.
[22:52] <datz> Hi, I can't upgrade directly from 8.04 to 9.10?
[22:52] <lstarnes> datz: no
[22:52] <epinky> nightcrow: What's the application of all that? PXE, TFTPd, thin clients?
[22:52] <sobersabre> mostapha: did you have FAT32 option or VFAT ?
[22:52] <mostapha> sobersabre: What can I do to mount it?
[22:53] <lstarnes> datz: you must upgrade to 8.10, then 9.04, then 9.10
[22:53] <mostapha> sobersabre: FAT32
[22:53] <nightcrow> what do you mean epinky
[22:53] <hapt1K> i can't even ping an ip address with this machine now
[22:53] <hapt1K> wtf
[22:53] <raven_> is it possible to minimize the menu in UNR so I can see all of the background?  this is 9.10
[22:53] <datz> lstarnes: but I will be able to upgrade from 8.04 to next LTS?
[22:53] <lstarnes> datz: but 8.04 will be able to upgrade directly to 10.04 if it is released as an LTS
[22:53] <mostapha> sobersabre: I can see the flash when I write fdisk -l
[22:53] <datz> ok
[22:53] <datz> thanks
[22:53] <epinky> nightcrow: What are your trying to accomplish?
[22:53] <hapt1K> is there a way to install ubuntu from within ubuntu using a mounted CDROM
[22:53] <nightcrow> epinky, sec
[22:53] <datz> lstarnes: think I'll hold off on the upgrade then. :)
[22:53] <nightcrow> ill paste again
[22:53] <sobersabre> mostapha: and do you have a partition on it, like sda1 or something ?
[22:53] <nightcrow> well, the story goes like this, I have an image created with ghost.exe that i use to deploy on all my server. Up until now, I used tftpdserver.exe, set it to boot to pxe with a windows netbootdisk and the once the machine boots, i just run ghost.exe from the mapped drive and then deploy the image - but for some reason, it has stopped working.
[22:53] <SimoneB> i built inkscape from the sources and installed it, i've deleted the sources and now i want to remove it to upgrade to the new version in the repos ... how do i do it?
[22:53] <nztal> is it possible to get open sound working on karmic ?
[22:54] <mostapha> sobersabre: it device boot I can see /dev/sdb1    *
[22:54] <nightcrow> i need to do that for another 50 machines
[22:54] <mostapha> *in
[22:54] <nightcrow> with the same image (created with ghost.exe)
[22:54] <nightcrow> so i would need a dos netbootdisk which will be used with pxe
[22:54] <mostapha> sobersabre: the * is included under the device boot, if that makes any difference.
[22:54] <epinky> nightcrow: use Clonezilla System Image Server
[22:54] <nightcrow> epinky, does that support dos network boot disks?
[22:55] <nightcrow> will i still be able to run my ghost.exe app
[22:55] <sobersabre> ok. so are you saying "I am connecting a FAT32 formatted flash disk and the system doesn't show me it has been connected in nautilus/desktop" ?
[22:55] <nightcrow> in order to deploy the image on the machines?
[22:55] <epinky> nightcrow: it supports PXE
[22:55] <mostapha> sobersabre: ya
[22:55] <DrRobinTosh> ok, iv been trying to do tuts on the inetweb to install vsftp, but it don't work for me, im getting connection refused the second i try to connect
[22:55] <sobersabre> is the user you're working with ... a local user ?
[22:55] <DrRobinTosh> erm, yes
[22:55] <nightcrow> epinky, i dont think that will be enough though
[22:55] <nightcrow> i need it to support more than that
[22:56] <nightcrow> i need to be able to boot into dos
[22:56] <mostapha> sobersabre: ya, it's the user i created during the installation
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:56] <nightcrow> in order to run ghost.exe
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: could use dosbox
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: oic
[22:56] <sobersabre> mostapha: ok. do you have any other flashdisks that did work ?
[22:56] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, whats that?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: www.bootdisk.com
[22:56] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, i tried that - to no avail
[22:56] <datz> is the main difference between the desktop version and server version a GUI?
[22:56] <mostapha> sobersabre: No. But this one did work before I formated it.
[22:56] <Clooluss> How can i get my power icon back? It has disappeared from the panel. I can create a simple "power off" icon but I'd like one that gives me the shutdown/ restart/ log off choice.
[22:56] <sobersabre> mostapha: ok.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: its an emulator for DOS but you need real DOS to use ghost
[22:57] <sobersabre> do you mind opening a terminal ?
[22:57] <nightcrow> yeah
[22:57] <nightcrow> im really stuck
[22:57] <mostapha> sobersabre: no, go ahead
[22:57] <sobersabre> when you do run: "sudo su -" and when asked type in your pass.
[22:57] <mostapha> sobersabre: I tried some commands but it didn't work out
[22:57] <nightcrow> i have this one ghost image and i need to deploy it on 50 servers
[22:57] <nightcrow> and i have no idea how to accomplish that
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: all you need is a floppy with command.com on and ghost.exe
[22:57] <sobersabre> mostapha: after you're ready in a root's shell tell me.
[22:57] <mostapha> sobersabre: ya i'm on
[22:57] <nightcrow> and then how will i access the image?
[22:57] <nightcrow> :)
[22:57] <datz> can I install server version, then some GUI, and get server LTS?
[22:58] <nightcrow> it will take me forever to do 50 machines like that ActionParsnip
[22:58] <DrRobinTosh> so.. how do i install vsftp? wiht out it faiing?
[22:58]  * sobersabre ate 2 spoons of majadrah.
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you setup a ghost session on the ghost server, the disk will also have packet drivers for the nic's in the system
[22:58] <DrRobinTosh> would it be easier if i installed a control panel ? like webmin?
[22:59] <mostapha> sobersabre: I'm on a root.
[22:59] <sobersabre> mostapha: you are absolutely sure that flashdisk is /dev/sdb1 right ?
[22:59] <mostapha> sobersabre: mmm.. ya
[22:59] <manuel_> hola no tengo mucha experiencia en ubuntu
[22:59] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, it would work like that
[22:59] <manuel_> alguien me podria ayudar?
[22:59] <araxhiel> good evening
[22:59] <jrt05> If I'm installing via wubi, what is the minimum space I should allocate and still be able to use ubuntu normally without restriction?
[22:59] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, im trying to do something similar to this
[22:59] <nightcrow> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478
[22:59] <sobersabre> ok I'll tell you the plan, and you tell me if it's ok with you.
[22:59] <araxhiel> err
[22:59] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: perhaps you need to configure a file in /etc to make it accept connections? you know, packages (especially insecure things like FTP) usually come configured conservatively to avoid surprises
[22:59] <epinky> !es | manuel_
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you tell the clients to join the name of the session you created on the server and when the right number of clients connects, the broadcast will begin (or you can attend the server to kick it off)
[22:59] <nightcrow> but with BOOTING into DOS
[22:59] <mostapha> sobersabre: ok
[22:59] <nightcrow> hmm
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: yes I know, Ive used it
[22:59] <sobersabre> I assume you don't have any valuable data on /dev/sdb1. so I'll tell you what to do to really format it. and after that we'll see what's up.
[22:59] <kevdog> how do I upgrade my ming32 packages -- Ive tried to cross compile handbrake and Im getting a mingw runtime must be >= 3.15
[23:00] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, well i fllowed the tuts, and i have set it up so i can
[23:00] <nightcrow> using what server ActionParsnip
[23:00] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: "dpkg -L packagename" (so "dpkg -L vsftp") will give you a list of all files it comes with; specifically, you could do "dpkg -L vsftp | grep etc" to get an idea what the config files may be
[23:00] <araxhiel> how can I restore grub default options?
[23:00] <Rods_Tiger> I've returned to trying to install ruby on rails, but it's taking weeks. I've got as far as making a rails app but when I type "rake db:create:all" it says  "no such file to load -- sqlite3". Ubuntu is giving me immense trouble getting anything related to rails to work at all.
[23:00] <sobersabre> mostapha: ok ?
[23:00] <mostapha> sobersabre: cool
[23:00] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: what are "the tuts", and why did you fllow them?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you need a ghost server running the session
[23:00] <araxhiel> or system backups of grub2 files?
[23:00] <nightcrow> ok
[23:00] <nightcrow> so what are the steps?
[23:00] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, duh. to getit going.
[23:00] <nightcrow> or do you have a tutorial that you can link me to?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: i just told you
[23:00] <DrRobinTosh> http://www.ehow.com/how_5025791_setup-ftp-server-ubuntu.html
[23:00] <DrRobinTosh> this is one
[23:00] <DrRobinTosh> theres another one
[23:00] <FloodBot2> DrRobinTosh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <nightcrow> sorry, i thought we were having a discussion
[23:00] <nightcrow> :-/
[23:01] <nightcrow> my bad
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: ghost can also do local disk to local disk if you do not have the server
[23:01] <nightcrow> i didnt realise you were certain
[23:01] <nightcrow> i dont have the server
[23:01] <nightcrow> i just have ghost.exe
[23:01] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: oh, you meant *tutorials*. sorry, but english is not my native language, i might not understand such abbreviations
[23:01] <jrt05> If I'm installing via wubi, what is the minimum space I should allocate and still be able to use ubuntu normally without restriction?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: yeah used to use it when i worked in a school, we use PXE where I work now
[23:01] <DrRobinTosh> i see
[23:01] <linuxguy2009> Im not having any luck with a good list of compatible wireless mice. Is there a good list somewhere?
[23:01] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, PXE is what i want to use
[23:01] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: still, it's probably a VERY bad idea to just blindly follow a tutorial for something as insecure as FTP
[23:01] <nightcrow> it has been what i have used up until now
[23:02] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: can you tell me exactly what you have done to install and configure it so far?
[23:02] <sobersabre> mostapha: run the command: "mkfs.vfat -n MDATA /dev/sdb1"
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> jrt05: 30Gb is max, you'll need about 7Gb for / and be comfortable
[23:02] <linuxguy2009> So far I only know for sure that the Logitech V220 works out of the box.
[23:02] <acicula> linuxguy2009: you mean bluetooth wireless or other
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: norton ghost isnt PXE
[23:02] <DrRobinTosh> sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[23:02] <DrRobinTosh> then cd /ect
[23:02] <jrt05> Thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[23:02] <nightcrow> i know
[23:02] <nightcrow> i never said it was...
[23:02] <DrRobinTosh> sudo nano vsftpd.conf
[23:02] <ben64_> how do i bring up that power history graph thing on ubuntu karmic?
[23:02] <sobersabre> mostapha: it maybe will warn you about something. unless it says "already mounted" you agree to "destroy data" on that disk. ok ?
[23:02] <DrRobinTosh> and changed the lines like it said
[23:02] <linuxguy2009> acicula: My Dell Mini 10v doesnt have bluetooth built in but I dont really have a preferecne as long as it works.
[23:03] <sobersabre> mostapha: are you with me ?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: then why talk about norton ghost then say you want to use PXE
[23:03] <linuxguy2009> acicula: I want to avoid M$ mice for sure.
[23:03] <sobersabre> linuxguy2009: why so ?
[23:03] <mostapha> sobersabre: ya, i didn't say already mounted
[23:03] <sobersabre> :)
[23:03] <sobersabre> mostapha: did it finish the formatting procedure ?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[23:03] <mostapha> sobersabre: I see it I think mounted
[23:03] <linuxguy2009> sobersabre: I highly dislike M$.
[23:03] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip,  let me explain, i had a network boot disk, which i used in conjunction with tftpd.exe, that was my dhcp server and my pxe. so using that, i booted (with pxe) into a network boot disk, mapped a shared drive in DOS using 'net use' and then ran ghost.exe via the network to deploy the image
[23:03] <mostapha> sobersabre: I think it worked hold on i'll double check
[23:04] <sobersabre> linuxguy2009: why do you dislike ms ? they make a hell of mice!
[23:04] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: what does « grep local_enable /etc/vsftpd.conf » say?
[23:04] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, is that clearer?
[23:04] <mostapha> sobersabre: it did work, thanks alot :)
[23:04] <sobersabre> mostapha: you maybe partitioned the flash disk, but didn't format.
[23:04] <D_K_2> HeyHey all (happy T day US.) If I have my cpu running high constantly while idle, but system monitor doesnt list any troubles in cpu usage, how can i find out, perhaps with terminal command, which process it is so i can kill it?
[23:04] <linuxguy2009> sobersabre: I really love Logitech though.
[23:04] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, local_enable=YES
[23:04] <sobersabre> mostapha: there are 2 distinct operations: partitioning is cutting the disk to slices. formatting is creating the filesystems on them.
[23:05] <sobersabre> linuxguy2009: as of now I haven't seen better than ms mice. (well, apple's mice are ok too)
[23:05] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, that link says: If your dhcp server issues correct network info and your pxe clients will have network access, then at this point you will be able to do an Ubuntu install using internet repositories
[23:05] <linuxguy2009> I like the Logitech Nano mice but not sure if the mini receiver will work on Ubuntu.
[23:05] <nightcrow> but i want to install windows using ghost.exe
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: pxe will use the bios to boot from network, it doesnt need a disk
[23:05] <DrRobinTosh> MAGIC MOUSE!!!
[23:05] <mostapha> sobersabre: ah, got it.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: the guide is good though
[23:05] <sobersabre> linuxguy2009: ms mice are ... robust. I have one for like 6 years.
[23:05] <DryGrain> argh, I have debian runnin in a VM and I want to set the screen resolution to 800x600
[23:05] <sobersabre> it never asked for cheese.
[23:05] <DrRobinTosh> Magic Mouse is really good with BetterTouchTool
[23:05] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: does "ps aux | grep ftp" show it as running?
[23:06] <sobersabre> mostapha: tislam, ya zalamee.
[23:06] <iKernel> Who here is having any trouble?
[23:06] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, but once ive booted, how would i run ghost.exe
[23:06] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, PM
[23:06] <ben64_> how do i bring up that power history graph thing on ubuntu karmic??
[23:06] <DryGrain> i am iKernel :D
[23:06] <linuxguy2009> sobersabre: As much as I hate M$ do they make any reasonably priced and available at walmart and maybe feature a mini reciever?
[23:06] <mostapha> sobersabre: shamy?
[23:06] <sobersabre> esh ?
[23:06] <iKernel> what's up DryGrain
[23:06] <araxhiel> Does any one know how can I restore grub default options? or restore system backups (if exists) of grub2 files?
[23:07] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: uhm, ok. but if you do "ftp localhost", it doesn't ask for a username?
[23:07] <mostapha> sobersabre: men syria, lebanon (el sham)?
[23:07] <newtoubuntu> I recently migrated to UBUNTU from windows XP and I found myself with a useless webcam...VEO Can anybody recommend an ubuntu compatible webcam?
[23:07] <sobersabre> halabi ? la. israil. el yahud :)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> newtoubuntu: run: lsusb    one line will identify the cam, websearch the 8 character hex ID
[23:07] <DrRobinTosh> btw, im SSHd into the server from my mac
[23:07] <LjL> !english
[23:07] <DryGrain> argh, I have debian runnin in a VM and I want to set the screen resolution to 800x600. the "Screen resolution" app in the system>preferences menu is useless, theres nothing in the dropdown menu
[23:07] <mostapha> sobersabre: arab 48?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: yuo don't the PXE boot will install the OS for you
[23:08] <sobersabre> ? la, ana el yahud.
[23:08] <anajo> eh?
[23:08] <LjL> please, english in here
[23:08] <nightcrow> the pxe boot will install windows?
[23:08] <nightcrow> can i pm ActionParsnip ?
[23:08] <D_K_2> If I have my cpu running high constantly while idle, but system monitor doesnt list any troubles in cpu usage, how can i find out, perhaps with terminal command, which process it is so i can kill it?
[23:08] <mostapha> sobersabre: Yahud is a religion, I didn't ask about your religion I'm talking about ethnicy.
[23:08] <LjL> !ot
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: i've not done this before, i only have a firm grasp of the concepts and method
[23:09] <DryGrain> D_K_2, top i think
[23:09] <sobersabre> mostapha: rusi.
[23:09] <sobersabre> :)
[23:09] <newtoubuntu> I don't get it
[23:09] <sobersabre> min wentaq ?
[23:09] <D_K_2> DryGrain: ive tried that one but it didnt list anything either
[23:09] <LjL> sobersabre, mostapha: please use english and keep it ubuntu-support-related. there's PM for the rest.
[23:09] <mostapha> sobersabre: masr
[23:09] <nightcrow> ah, i see
[23:09] <sobersabre> masri cool :)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you can even setup a local repo with up to date debs and use the minimal ISO in PXE boot with the local server as a repo, you can then install from that (fast)
[23:09] <iKernel> not sure DryGrain
[23:09] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, im not sure if your method will work
[23:09] <DryGrain> D_K_2, are you using gnome?
[23:09] <sobersabre> LjL: ok. no problems.
[23:10] <ben64_> I have a laptop with Ubuntu 9.10, How do I bring up that power history graph thing on Ubuntu karmic? I had it on Edgy, but I never knew the command to start it. I don't have a battery to pull out to get the battery icon on the taskbar to get it.
[23:10] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, if i was install linux, u would be 100% eright
[23:10] <nightcrow> right
[23:10] <nightcrow> but this is different
[23:10] <nightcrow> very
[23:10] <FloodBot2> nightcrow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <josvuk> How to make my terminal beep? (I'm on ubuntu9.04ppc and gnome-terminal 2.26)?
[23:10] <DryGrain> D_K_2, in the System Monitor there is a list of all running processes
[23:10] <sobersabre> mostapha: nice talking to you :)
[23:10] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, http://netbootdisk.com/pxeboot.htm
[23:10] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: so when from inside your ssh to the computer running vsftpd, you run "ftp localhost", you get an error?
[23:10] <josvuk> Are there anywhere some ubuntu FAQ's
[23:11] <ubun00b> how do i flash bios in ubuntu to disable bios password
[23:11] <LjL> josvuk: type /topic
[23:11] <mostapha> sobersabre: nice talking with you too, looking forward more if it's ok with u
[23:11] <DrRobinTosh> ohh LjL, 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'chown_username':whoever
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: if you are using a windows server to install windows then you are in the wrong channel
[23:11] <sobersabre> mostapha: no probs :) see you around!
[23:11] <sobersabre> ubun00b: are you the owner of the computer ?
[23:11] <D_K_2> DryGrain: cool, thanks man
[23:12] <nightcrow> im not :)
[23:12] <nightcrow> lol
[23:12] <DryGrain> yay i helped :D
[23:12] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, im concerned that you havent fully understood me :)
[23:12] <mostapha> sobersabre: b2olak, I'm trying to create a USB startup disk, but it's not working I keep on getting error.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> ubun00b: if you have physical access, shutdown the pc take all power connections from it, open the case and take out the bios battery then go to bed
[23:12] <nightcrow> i think my english my not be good enough
[23:12] <nightcrow> ok
[23:12] <nightcrow> how about this, i want to pxe boot into dos using a linux server
[23:12] <nightcrow> :)
[23:12] <ubun00b> ActionParsnip, i tryed that i left the battery out for 24 hrs
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> ubun00b: in the morning, battery back in, power in, no more password
[23:12] <mostapha> sobersabre: I get that error An uncaught exception was raised:
[23:13] <sobersabre> mostapha: you need to run syslinux on the disk first, there should be a "howto" ready to copy paste.
[23:13] <mostapha> [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[23:13] <ubun00b> ActionParsnip, should i leave it out longer?
[23:13] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: ehm, did you uncomment the line that says "#chown_username=whoever" in /etc/vsftpd.conf...?
[23:13] <nightcrow> sorry, using a linux pxe server
[23:13] <mostapha> sobersabre: Ah Ok I'll check it out.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ubun00b: did you have the power cable connected and turned on
[23:13] <dan85> if /boot, /, /home and swap... how each partition should be assigned (as primary, or as logical)?
[23:13] <ubun00b> ActionParsnip, no the machine was off and everything was unplugged.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you can't DOS is its own OS
[23:13] <mostapha> sobersabre: syslinux /dev/sdb1 ??
[23:14] <nightcrow> i can if i bind a DOS boot disk to the linux pxe server
[23:14] <sobersabre> mostapha: google for "ubuntu boot flash disk"
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> ubun00b: ok have it all wired up but shutdown and find the CMOS reset jumper and switch it to reset
[23:14] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, yes i did
[23:14] <mostapha> sobersabre: ok
[23:14] <Alan502> good day :) i dont know what exactly happened but my wi-fi stopped to work
[23:14] <mostapha> sobersabre: thanks
[23:14] <sobersabre> mostapha: I don't remember the exact syntax.
[23:14] <Alan502> it works on windows, but it doesnt work on backtrack or ubuntu
[23:14] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: well, perhaps it's time to comment it back and restart the service ;)
[23:14] <mostapha> sobersabre: np :)
[23:14] <sobersabre> I remember following the howto, and it worked.
[23:14] <Alan502> i dont know what is happening :S
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: you can boot to DOS and use ghost.exe but you need a ghost server to broadcast the image
[23:14] <ubun00b> ActionParsnip, ok i'll have to google for the manual for the cmos jumper for this type of computer i'll try that next thank you
[23:15] <nightcrow> does the ghost server run on linux?#
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> ubun00b: most bios flashers are windows based but can usually be done in DOS
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: no on windows, its a paid for product
[23:15] <KSid> Hi guys,
[23:15] <sobersabre> ubun00b: is this a desktop or a laptop ?
[23:15] <sobersabre> KSid: hi.
[23:16] <Jamed> dan85: /boot 256mb (if you dont leave more than 2 kernels in there) /20-30gb /home depend on your needs, i have 60gb swap 2xRAM if you have less than 1gb RAM alse 1xRAM
[23:16] <nightcrow> ah, i see
[23:16] <KSid> I'm cross posting from the server channel as it's not a server specific query
[23:16] <nightcrow> do you have its name?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost
[23:16] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, same thing
[23:16] <sobersabre> KSid: this sentence was ... redundant.
[23:16] <onofrio> who can try if my firewall is ok?   test http://onofrio.go.dyndns.org
[23:16] <DrRobinTosh> conntion refushed
[23:16] <Jamed> dan85: *else
[23:16] <DrRobinTosh> i ran sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[23:16] <General1337> hey
[23:16] <nightcrow> ok ActionParsnip
[23:16] <nightcrow> ill try that out
[23:16] <KSid> sobersabre: fair enough... on to the question then
[23:16] <nightcrow> thank you
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> onofrio: http://pastie.org/716586
[23:16] <KSid> I don't have apache or mod_php installed however aptitude is telling me an update is available for both
[23:16] <KSid> I do have php5 installed (which it also says needs updating) and apache-utils (which doesn't) but I haven't installed the actual apache server
[23:16] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: does it give you the same error as before then?
[23:17] <pdragon_> hello everyone
[23:17] <DrRobinTosh> yes
[23:17] <General1337> I'm having trouble using the disk utilities, it keeps saying:
[23:17] <ParkerM> hi
[23:17] <General1337> Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[23:17] <General1337> ped_disk_new() failed
[23:17] <DrRobinTosh> wait
[23:17] <onofrio> ojk action
[23:17] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: about user 'whoever'? even with that commented out?
[23:17] <sobersabre> KSid: it means they ARE installed....
[23:17] <General1337> I also can't use gparted
[23:17] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, Pm plz
[23:17] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, does that have a built in pxe server?
[23:17] <General1337> gparted does not detect ANY partitions
[23:17] <sobersabre> KSid: you can check by running dpkg -l | grep apache
[23:17] <Clooluss> how can i get my power icon back? It has disappeared from the panel. I can create a simple "power off" icon but I'd like one that gives me the shutdown/ restart/ log off choice.
[23:17] <pdragon_> ok here is the problem i am having
[23:17] <ParkerM> Could anyone help me get my sound working?
[23:17] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: i'd rather speak in the channel, so someone else can chip in if they can.
[23:17] <Rods_Tiger> certain things don't work with "sudo gem install" - I have to revert to using "sudo apt-get install" for them
[23:17] <pdragon_> i made a init.d script but it dose not start up on boot
[23:17] <DrRobinTosh> its too busy
[23:17] <KSid> sobersabre: They aren't installed, I've already checked
[23:18] <DrRobinTosh> i can't keep up
[23:18] <pdragon_> how can i make it start on boot
[23:18] <KSid> sobersabre: this is the second time this has come up
[23:18] <what> !sound
[23:18] <sobersabre> KSid: why and when it happened before ?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> nightcrow: possibly. I havent used it since 1999
[23:19] <pdragon_> anyone ?.
[23:19] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, ok, so i changed the port to 20 and thats connection refused. so i left it default, (21) and that says Error -203
[23:19] <nightcrow> ActionParsnip, it doesnt
[23:19] <KSid> sobersabre: The last time there was an update to the core php files aptitude wanted to install the apache packages
[23:19] <nightcrow> so im back to square one
[23:19] <pdragon_> drrobintosh are you trying to ssh >/
[23:19] <nightcrow> i just searched through the manual for pxe
[23:19] <DrRobinTosh> pdragon_, No FTP
[23:19] <sobersabre> KSid: I don't understand do you have php installed ?
[23:20] <pdragon_> did you allow it throw the linux firewall > or the router firewall
[23:20] <Iowan> pdragon: What version - Karmic uses services
[23:20] <chatZilla> has anyone used Slax
[23:20] <pdragon_> the most resant
[23:20] <DrRobinTosh> pdragon_, its got no firewall, and its inside my network
[23:20] <sobersabre> KSid: I think you're missing something about aptitude :)
[23:20] <ParkerM> Could anyone here help me get my sound working?
[23:21] <sobersabre> KSid: it is SMART :)
[23:21] <pdragon_> linux has a build in firewall and sometimes you have to allow stuff to get throw if you did not config it right
[23:21] <DrRobinTosh> oh ok
[23:21] <DrRobinTosh> how i do that?
[23:21] <sobersabre> KSid: I think what happened is that one of the packages related to php is either of:
[23:21] <KSid> sobersabre: Yep, I have php5, php5-cgi and php5-cli (as well as some php modules) but not libapache2-mod-php5 or the apache server
[23:21] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: err, there's no other description than error 203...? look, i'm on hardy myself, and vsftpd works locally *out of the box*, without changing *anything* in the config file. perhaps you've changed a bit too much. "sudo apt-get --purge remove vsftpd ; sudo apt-get install vsftpd" to restore it to defaults, then see if it works any better, at least locally
[23:21] <Guest78799> I need to create a boot image, but the USB Startup Disk Creator isn't detecting my USB drive.  Any ideas?
[23:21] <Jamed> !sound| ParkerM
[23:21] <dan85> from these: /boot, /, /home, swap... which should be primary or logical and why... also, in which order to place them?
[23:21] <pdragon_> well what ftp program are you using and did you just apt-get it and that was it
[23:21] <BluesKaj> pdragon_, make sure you update your rc.d file , sudo update-rc.d
[23:21] <sobersabre> KSid: are you using non apache web server ?
[23:22] <KSid> sobersabre: lighttpd
[23:22] <pdragon_> so just update it and that is it
[23:22] <KSid> sobersabre: from the developer's ppa instead of the official Ubuntu one for 8.10
[23:22] <payne_> hey
[23:22] <sobersabre> KSid: I think you're witnessing a consipiracy :) I think people form php related packages add apache as dependency.
[23:22] <ParkerM> ok well how do i access volume control in 9.10
[23:22] <sobersabre> KSid: this often happens in ppa sources. people assume assumptions, you know...
[23:23] <ParkerM> sound preferences don't have a file option
[23:23] <KSid> sobersabre: php isn't from a ppa, lighttpd is from a ppa
[23:23] <linuxguy2009> anyone have a logitech vx nano cordless mouse working in ubuntu 9.10?
[23:23] <pdragon_> Bluekaj what is the level for it to boot with the tty
[23:23] <payne_> I am having trouble installing the flashplayer for x86_64
[23:23] <KSid> sobersabre: php is from the official ubuntu repo
[23:23] <lloyd> hey guys is the installation of adobe flash in xubuntu the same with ubuntu?
[23:23] <pdragon_> yes
[23:24] <KSid> sobersabre: You're right.... grrrrr....
[23:24] <sobersabre> KSid: Oh, ok. then you need to investigate which package depends on apache, and contact its maintainer :)
[23:24] <sobersabre> KSid: what about ?
[23:24] <KSid> sobersabre: The official php5 package depends on mod_php
[23:24] <pdragon_> lloyd yes they are the same
[23:24] <BluesKaj> pdragon_, you may have to create a symlink to
[23:24] <lloyd> @pdragon ok
[23:24] <sobersabre> KSid: it maybe doesn't really depend, it is probably "suggested"
[23:25] <pdragon_> yes the file name in my init.d is wlan and i want it to run on boot
[23:25] <sobersabre> aptitude often refers to "suggests" and "recommends" as "depends".
[23:25] <DrRobinTosh> lloyd, are you from NZ?
[23:25] <KSid> sobersabre: sudo aptitude show php5
[23:25] <pdragon_> so i dont have to use xwindows to run my wlan
[23:25] <KSid> sobersabre: can you check if I read the output correctly?
[23:25] <ubun00b> Actionparsnip got it thanksso much !!
[23:25] <sobersabre> KSid: moment...
[23:26] <lloyd> @DrRobinTosh whats NZ?
[23:26] <KSid> sobersabre: Ah, I think i've got it
[23:26] <DrRobinTosh> lloyd, New Zealand, you must not be then :P
[23:26] <KSid> sobersabre: It's not aptitude being odd, it's apticron
[23:26] <lloyd> im from the philippines, asia
[23:26] <DrRobinTosh> ok
[23:27] <sobersabre> KSid: apticron ?
[23:27] <KSid> sobersabre: Aptitude is happy not installing apache stuff, apticron though has picked ALL of the dependencies and listed them as ready for upgrading
[23:27] <DrRobinTosh> LjL. IT WORKS!!!!
[23:27] <DrRobinTosh> Thanks LjL!
[23:27] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: you're welcome
[23:27] <sobersabre> I have no idea who is apticron. I'm familiar with dpkg, dselect, apt-get, and even aptitude.
[23:27] <DrRobinTosh> LjL, one thing
[23:27] <Bigshot_> i installed linux on /dev/sdd  and bootloader all in /dev/sdd it is USB flash drive and i am stuck at grub> prompt how can i boot into linux?
[23:27] <KSid> sobersabre: apticron runs 'aptitude update' as a cronjob and sends an email with the list of packages waiting for an upgrade
[23:28] <DrRobinTosh> where do i put my www files?
[23:28] <sobersabre> KSid: I never do such frightening things like aptitude update as a cronjob...
[23:28] <Bigshot_> i installed linux on /dev/sdd  and bootloader also in /dev/sdd it is USB flash drive and i am stuck at grub> prompt how can i boot into linux?
[23:28] <Bigshot_> **
[23:28] <KSid> sobersabre: it seems like it's not as intelligent as aptitude and lists all dependencies instead of just the packages that actually need it
[23:28] <KSid> sobersabre: It runs the update command, not upgrade
[23:28] <payne_> I am having trouble installing the flashplayer for x86_64
[23:29] <KSid> sobersabre: I manually upgrade if/when needed
[23:29] <LjL> DrRobinTosh: uh, in /var/www i suppose... but that's not related to vsftpd right?
[23:29] <ParkerM> !flash payne_
[23:29] <sobersabre> KSid: I understand. still... it's a receipt for SPAM from myself. why would I even think of it ?
[23:29] <sobersabre> KSid: you get updates sometimes 10 times a day.
[23:29] <payne_> ParkerM,
[23:29] <payne_> ParkerM,  wut
[23:29] <sobersabre> and sometimes the pkg list is long.
[23:29] <ParkerM> !flash| payne_
[23:29] <payne_> ok
[23:30] <payne_> ParkerM,  thanks
[23:30] <ParkerM> yep
[23:30] <KSid> sobersabre: The cron job runs once a day and I only have a small number of installed packages because it's a server not a desktop system
[23:30] <pdragon_> how come most of the newbies don't just use applications/ Ubuntu software center and that will do it for them
[23:30] <frog> E: Package libxml1 has no installation candidate.
[23:30] <sobersabre> KSid: I understand you may do what you do if you maintain 1 server.
[23:30] <frog> how can i fix this?
[23:31] <pdragon_> Frog use apt-get install libxml1
[23:31] <KSid> sobersabre: I agree, I'll need a better idea if I have multiple servers
[23:31] <pdragon_> try that
[23:31] <frog>  Package libxml1 has no installation candidate pdragon_
[23:31] <sobersabre> KSid: you will come to mailing lists or RSS
[23:31] <sobersabre> :)
[23:31] <pdragon_> ok one sec
[23:31] <KSid> sobersabre: (un)fortunately I'm not there yet ;)
[23:32] <sobersabre> KSid: are you sure you want to be "there" ?
[23:32] <danny> howdy folks
[23:32] <DrRobinTosh> ty Ljl
[23:32] <DrRobinTosh> bbs shower
[23:32] <pdragon_> frog have you tried apt-get update
[23:32] <sobersabre> danny: howdy.
[23:33] <payne_> ParkerM,  thanks
[23:33] <danny> Can someone recommend a great "how to" guide on how to browse my windows shared folders through ubuntu?  I've looked at a lot (a LOT) of guides and still can't seem to get it working
[23:33] <frog> pdragon_: but i must first add to app.source
[23:33] <danny> My main problem seems to be setting up my Ubuntu workgroup
[23:34] <KSid> sobersabre: eventually, get enough projects off the ground then I'd be happy
[23:34] <pdragon_> so you have no apt-get web souce
[23:34] <KSid> sobersabre:  either have multiple servers or one ginormous machine that eats babies for breakfast
[23:34] <KSid> sobersabre: ;)
[23:34] <frog> pdragon_: sry, tried to update aptitude
[23:34] <sobersabre> danny: it's not enough to look at the "how to" guide. it would be useful if you read it...
[23:34] <pdragon_> frog ok try this sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:34] <danny> a linux user who's pedantic with semantics, what a shock
[23:34] <danny> :P
[23:34] <frog> ja, works now mkdir canon
[23:34] <sobersabre> KSid: I don't like machines that eat babies.
[23:35] <danny> ok, i "read" a lot of guides
[23:35] <sobersabre> danny: and ... read = understood ?
[23:35] <pdragon_> frog so did that help
[23:35] <KSid> sobersabre: thanks for helping me out, much appreciated
[23:35] <frog> sorry... pdragon_ ya, works, thanks
[23:35] <sobersabre> KSid: no probs.
[23:35] <sobersabre> welcome :)
[23:35] <frog> yep pdragon_
[23:35] <danny> read, followed instructiosn to a T, understood, but getting errors that the "if you get these errors" sections don't cover
[23:35] <frog> tahnks
[23:35] <pdragon_> ksid what kind of server you have
[23:36] <pdragon_> well nvm lool
[23:36] <sobersabre> danny: I'll tell you why I'm so annoying. I didn't do ANYTHING to do what you did, and I'm able to browse windows networks.
[23:36] <danny> well it took a lot of work just to get my wireless adapter to work
[23:36] <sobersabre> danny: are you working inside a domain or a workgroup ?
[23:36] <danny> workgroup
[23:36] <danny> and workgroup is what's causing the issue
[23:36] <danny> i can't edit my smb.conf to change the workgroup
[23:36] <sobersabre> danny: moment. I'll ask you basic questions... like a doctor :)
[23:37] <pdragon_> what is danny issue
[23:37] <danny> can't browse windows networks, using samba, or pyneighborhood
[23:37] <sobersabre> danny: 1st interesting question - if you read "how to guide" most of the work is around smb.conf
[23:38] <pdragon_> and sobersabre you can borwse the network computers with only being on a workgroup
[23:38] <sobersabre> pdragon_: have you seen me claiming the oposite ?
[23:38] <danny> sobre - yes smb.conf
[23:38] <pdragon_> i have 4 laptops and 1 linux server on a work group and i can see all them fine with a windows machien
[23:38] <sobersabre> danny:  if you cannot edit it... how did you get to the problem ? :)
[23:39] <danny> i open smb.conf, it's "read only", and if i try to overwrite the file with my altered workgroup info, it won't overwrite
[23:39] <sobersabre> danny: anyway, I understand your status.
[23:39] <claw6> anybody know a way to minimize opengl games ? im talking about ut2004
[23:39] <pdragon_> danny you will need to run the editor as root or sudo
[23:39] <sobersabre> pdragon_: do you wish to take over and help danny ?
[23:39] <pdragon_> the smb.conf is locked to root premissons only
[23:39] <danny> pdragon ah yeah ok...i just did gedit i think
[23:40] <pdragon_> just trying to help you more
[23:40] <serryees> Enter text here...h
[23:40] <sobersabre> well, I'm ok with your taking over... go go go  :)
[23:40] <danny> :P
[23:40] <pdragon_> your doing just fine
[23:40] <sobersabre> nono I insist.
[23:40] <pdragon_> we both can help him i will just sit back
[23:41] <sobersabre> pdragon_: I was exactly thinking about sitting back, seriously, go ahead.
[23:41] <epinky> :)
[23:41] <sobersabre> so, I'm off for tea.
[23:41] <pdragon_> i is finished loading my new game lol
[23:41] <pdragon_> was killing time helping out
[23:43] <jackeveryman> Hey, I dual-boot winXP and Ubuntu, just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 using update manager. XP is no longer visible in GRUB :o Can anyone help?
[23:43] <sobersabre> danny: now, do you have dns working where you're browsing windows network ?
[23:44] <sobersabre> I mean, can you ping machines by their names or by IP ?
[23:45] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: run sudo update-grub
[23:45] <Wilabob> Hi, I'm having problems with sound in ubuntu 9.10 can anyone help?
[23:46] <jackeveryman> bluesscream: any way to check if that worked without rebooting?
[23:47] <TheFunkbomb> How come when I type Users into terminal, it shows me logged in multiple times?
[23:48] <lstarnes> TheFunkbomb: each terminal session counts as a separate login
[23:48] <LjL> TheFunkbomb: because you have more than one terminal open?
[23:48] <sobersabre> TheFunkbomb: it shows you all the ttys your user is using...
[23:48] <TheFunkbomb> I see
[23:48] <TheFunkbomb> I only had one terminal open so it's my normal login +terminal?
[23:48] <sobersabre> if you're logged in graphically you usually also take up a tty.
[23:49] <TheFunkbomb> gotcha
[23:49] <rayto> /
[23:49] <Wilabob> I followed the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and my sound still isn't working... Can someone help?
[23:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi, happy thanksgiving
[23:49] <borreguito> hi Wilabob
[23:49] <sobersabre> but if you log in via ssh, it's 1 tty.
[23:49] <sobersabre> unless you're connected multiple times.
[23:49] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: have a look to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:50] <TheFunkbomb> I see now
[23:50] <TheFunkbomb> thanks
[23:50] <ShapeShifter499> how do I make firefox use the karmic notifiaction system?
[23:50] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: but don't edit this directly
[23:50] <ShapeShifter499> *notification
[23:51] <sobersabre> ShapeShifter499: what do you mean ?
[23:51] <jackeveryman> bluesscream: it's empty.. And menu.lst has what I saw on startup. (I'm not messing around as su.. yet)
[23:51] <scottandmonique> has  anyone setup elisa/moovida to UPNP to xbox360
[23:51] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: hmm
[23:51] <scottandmonique> im using Ushare currently but would like to look at moovida as a media center alternative
[23:51] <Wilabob> I have been able to get my wifi video and dual booting working but I need sound now... Any suggestions? I already visited https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:52] <lstarnes> jackeveryman: if you upgrade to 9.10 instead of installing it from scratch, it will use the old grub (and menu.lst) instead of grub2 (and grub.cfg)
[23:52] <sobersabre> Wilabob: do you think telling us what sound card you have will slow down the time to resolution of your problem ?
[23:52] <andrey> ugh, I forgot how to make dbus work with hp-toolbox
[23:52] <andrey> tips please
[23:52] <sobersabre> I mean the extrasensory people have just left the channel....
[23:52] <lstarnes> jackeveryman: you can upgrade from grub to grub2, but I forget the procedure
[23:53] <payne_> what is the best  torrent application for linux
[23:53] <erUSUL> !best | payne_
[23:53] <LjL> !best | payne_
[23:53] <Wilabob> sobersabre: How do I find that out? It's built in so I can't look on the card
[23:53] <mike77pl> hi, do you know any IRC for CSS and JavaScript coding?
[23:53] <sobersabre> Wilabob: can you open a terminal ?
[23:53] <jackeveryman> lstarnes: What are the odds that upgrading to GRUB2 will automatically detect my XP partition?
[23:53] <usser> !torrent
[23:53] <payne_> what is the "ideal"  torrent application for linux
[23:53] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: you know how it pops up in the corner when you connected to the net or when new mail comes through evolution mail? well thats what I want with firefox(ie downloads, etc.)
[23:53] <sobersabre> Wilabob: do you know how to type in commands ?
[23:53] <LjL> mike77pl: there is a ##javascript
[23:53] <derenrich> anyone here making pumpkin soup today? i'm considering adding peanut butter to mine and i'm looking for advice
[23:53] <lstarnes> jackeveryman: I'm not sure
[23:54] <LjL> payne_: changing the word doesn't change the meaning. ask bestbot for opinions
[23:54] <lstarnes> jackeveryman: there is proably a way to manually add XP to menu/.lst
[23:54] <lstarnes> *menu.lst
[23:54] <sobersabre> ShapeShifter499: I think it is related to linux d-bus support, or maybe gnome related linux extensions.
[23:54] <Wilabob> sobersabre: Yep... You know how many of those I had to use to get wifi working?
[23:54] <TheFunkbomb> and you're looking for advice in a linux channel?
[23:54] <usser> payne_, default "transmission" works just fine
[23:54] <payne_> !torrent
[23:54] <LjL> payne_: or give criteria for people to actually give customized opinions
[23:54] <m4rk> hello. where are the ubuntu one files stored?
[23:54] <sobersabre> Wilabob: no I don't know. run this command: lspci
[23:54] <usser> m4rk, on the cloud
[23:54] <LjL> m4rk: probably better to ask in #ubuntuone
[23:54] <sobersabre> and look at the line "Audio"
[23:54] <sobersabre> I mean with "Audio" in it.
[23:55] <jackeveryman> lstarnes: that's what I figure, really that strikes me as the way to go but I'm not sure how... I'll keep my on on here while googling menu.lst
[23:55] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: sudo update-grub will do it
[23:55] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: do you know how to do it?
[23:55] <Wilabob> sobersabre: Its intel 82801AA AC'97
[23:56] <m4rk> thanks guys
[23:56] <sobersabre> ShapeShifter499: I am not sure there is such thing.
[23:56] <m4rk> I asked in #ubuntuone
[23:56] <sobersabre> Wilabob: so... now, that we know you HAVE audio card...
[23:56] <sobersabre> what exactly
[23:56] <sobersabre> is the problem ?
[23:56] <Wilabob> sobersabre: lol
[23:57] <jackeveryman> bluesscream: sudo update-grub will update grub1 to grub2? If so, how can I check the current version?
[23:57] <Wilabob> sobersabre: No sound. My speakers work in XP
[23:57] <usser> jackeveryman, sudo apt-get install grub2 will update grub
[23:57] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: hmm....
[23:57] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: more googling I will do...
[23:57] <sobersabre> Wilabob: ok. do you see a little speaker at the top right corner of gnome (if you use gnome) ?
[23:57] <Wilabob> sobersabre: Yep its on full volume
[23:58] <usser> jackeveryman, by default its going to chainload from old grub on startup. make sure grub2 boots all your OSs, when satisfied boot into ubuntu and run grub2-install
[23:58] <sobersabre> ok, if you RIGHT click it ... what do you see ?
[23:58] <ubuntu_> halo
[23:58] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: thanks for the help anyways
[23:58] <inspiron630> i want to set a const int MAX_X for my class. I want it to be set in one place, instead of initializing it in all the constructors. what are my options
[23:58] <Wilabob> sobersabre: mute and sound preferences (mute is off)
[23:58] <sobersabre> ShapeShifter499: try searching in the add-ons of firefox.
[23:59] <sobersabre> Wilabob: do you mind going to "sound preferences" ?
[23:59] <usser> jackeveryman, actually the command to run is not grub2-install its something like update-from-grub-legacy if im not mistaken, it will tell you when you install grub2 package
[23:59] <bluesscream> jackeveryman: no, just after you did ussers's hint you will do this and get your osses accessible
[23:59] <ShapeShifter499> sobersabre: I did, all the add ons don't work
[23:59] <Wilabob> sobersabre: OK, now what?
[23:59] <usser> inspiron630, constants.h file
[23:59] <usser> inspiron630, create it and put all your constants there
[23:59] <ShapeShifter499> well I gotta go, bye everyone, mom just finished the turkey
[23:59] <sobersabre> what do you see ?