[00:01] <zarathustra> !list
[00:01] <zarathustra> ciao a tutt*
[00:03] <zen-sensei> so has anyone figure out this issue yet?  kword: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkio.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN11QTreeWidget17setSelectionModelEP19QItemSelectionModel
[00:04] <zen-sensei> it's not just a kword issue, it keeps just about all of my kde4 apps from running
[00:06] <zen-sensei> all i've been able to find via google is folks asking for help - no solutions :(
[00:08] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: do you have a custom Qt installation?
[00:15] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: where did you get that version of KDE? it seems to be built against Qt 4.6 (not yet released)
[00:22] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, my issue started when i upgraded to Jaunty
[00:22] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, i'm not running anything weird
[00:23] <zarathustra> ciao a tutti
[00:23] <Aviatore> ciao
[00:23] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: can you run "ldd $(which kword)" and pastebin the result?
[00:25] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: and the output of "kword --version" please
[00:25] <tsimpson> (if it doesn't just spit out that error)
[00:26] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, http://pastebin.ca/1688825    Output of kword --version: Qt: 3.3.8b KDE: 3.5.10 KWord: 1.6.3
[00:27] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: hmm, that seems to be the kde3 version
[00:27] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: do you have the kde4 version installed somewhere else?
[00:28] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, at this time i'm not sure what's going on
[00:28] <zen-sensei> i had the kde4 version installed an it spits out the error i originally posted
[00:29] <leetlargo> fuck worst day ever! right after the BEST NIGHT EVER!
[00:29] <leetlargo> =[
[00:29] <leetlargo> =]
[00:29] <FloodBotK2> leetlargo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <zen-sensei> now it seems the the kde3.5 version of kword is being started (and it doesn't do anything)
[00:29] <leetlargo> =[
[00:29] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: try "kde4-config --version"
[00:31] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, get the original error
[00:31] <zen-sensei> er, maybe a bit different: kde4-config: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5: undefined symbol: qt_locale_initialized
[00:31] <tsimpson> ok try "ldd $(which kde4-config)" and pastebin that
[00:32] <tsimpson> leetlargo: do not swear here and respect the channel topic
[00:32] <leetlargo> sorry simpson
[00:32] <leetlargo> i'm still trying to figure everything out
[00:33] <leetlargo> simpson. iu have a question
[00:33] <leetlargo> I**
[00:33] <tsimpson> if it's a kubuntu support question, you should ask it
[00:34] <leetlargo> hmmm then i need to find the "edubuntu" channel
[00:34] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, http://pastebin.ca/1688835
[00:34] <leetlargo> i have the worst version of ubuntu ever ,so many problems
[00:34] <zen-sensei> yes, i was a happy kUbuntu user until jaunty and then it all stopped working  :(
[00:35] <leetlargo> server list?
[00:35] <leetlargo> nvm
[00:35] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: you, or someone else on your system, have a custom Qt install in /usr/local/lib/ which is messing things up
[00:36] <leetlargo> my problem is that the flash play sucks, youtube vids, freeze but the sound keeps going and and other flashplayer doesn't work
[00:36] <leetlargo> i have shockwave, or atleast the ubuntu version as well as java, but none if it seems to be running smoothly
[00:37] <leetlargo> if any one has advise i'm open to it
[00:38] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, what's the best way to get rid of it?
[00:38] <Guest47747> l
[00:38] <Guest47747> clear
[00:38] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: if you didn't install it, then you need to remove /usr/local/lib/libQt*
[00:44] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, do i need to run something to make the system know to use the other libQt stuff? ( kword-kde4 is now failing to do anything)
[00:44] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: "sudo ld-config"
[00:45] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: actually "sudo ldconfig"
[00:45] <zen-sensei> still does nothing (no errors, no output, no program at all) tsimpson
[00:46] <tsimpson> zen-sensei: it should be working then, "kde4-config --version" should output some version info
[00:47] <zen-sensei> tsimpson, it outputs Qt: 4.5.0 KDE: 4.2.4 (KDE 4.2.4)  kde4-config: 1.0
[00:47] <tsimpson> that shows it's working then
[00:48] <zen-sensei> don't you mean "it shows that it should be working" ?
[00:48] <tsimpson> I mean that error about undefined symbols, which was stopping the app from running, is gone
[00:49] <zen-sensei> yes, it is (THANKS)
[00:49] <tsimpson> why it's not doing anything, I really don't know
[00:50] <zen-sensei> well, thanks for helping with the undefined symbol issue  :)
[00:51] <Ev0luti0n_> folks
[00:51] <Ev0luti0n_> anybody else
[00:51] <Ev0luti0n_> has problems with adding custom icon packs to kntu 9.10?
[01:03] <tavyron> ubuntu español por favor.. i am new
[01:08] <poyntz> hi folks
[01:08] <poyntz> does anyone get video with dragon player?
[01:08] <poyntz> i get just audio
[01:08] <poyntz> i can play dvd's with dragon player. that's it
[01:09] <poyntz> but i don't cause it doesn't have openGL support, so the quality isn't the best
[01:10] <jsubl2> what software would be good to use to join video files into 1 larger file.  the files are *.mod and moi type files
[01:12] <wrgb> leetlargo: you still there?
[01:13] <smorg> Anyone who installed "kubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso", what do you get from running: uname -m
[01:14] <Tm_T> smorg: what are you expecting to?
[01:14] <smorg> Tm_T: hopefully i686
[01:15] <Tm_T> smorg: that's what it should be yes
[01:15] <wrgb> smorg: I get i686
[01:15] <smorg> Ah good ty :)
[01:15] <Tm_T> smorg: why?
[01:26] <smorg> Tm_T: because i386 means something very specific. That was the original 8086 architecture and isn't binary compatable with i486 or i686, which is any "modern" 32-bit intel processor. I know there are kernels compatable with i486, but i'm not sure about i386. Technically they really shouldn't call it that.
[01:30] <Tm_T> smorg: true that
[01:42] <Astron> .
[01:52] <SeViLLa> does kubuntu and a gconf-editor?
[01:52] <SeViLLa> does kubuntu have a gconf-editor?
[01:56] <ordonez> hey wats crackin everybody?
[01:56] <SeViLLa> whats up
[01:57] <SeViLLa> just made the switch to kde fro gnome and trying to get use to it
[01:57] <[-j3rg-]> nice
[01:58] <compilerwriter> SeViLLa: you will like it once you get past eh learning curve.
[01:58] <[-j3rg-]> im messing with bufferoverflow and debugging wiht the gcc compiler
[01:58] <[-j3rg-]> but i can't seem to mimic the information at hand
[01:59] <sithlord48> sevilla, no there is no gconf-editor for kubuntu
[01:59] <sithlord48> sevilla, what are you trying to set up ?
[01:59] <[-j3rg-]> was gonna ask for help but ........ really don't want to disturb anyone
[01:59] <[-j3rg-]> only if anyone is up to it
[01:59] <MoRpHeUz> hey all, just upgraded to 9.10 and now I'm getting the (famous) "General error mounting filesystems" problem
[01:59] <MoRpHeUz> anybody willing to help ?
[02:00] <sithlord48> search that on kubuntuforums.net, read a post about it eariler
[02:00] <sithlord48> -j3rg-, what is the nature of your issue?
[02:00] <SeViLLa> sithlord48: i wanted to change my lock sceen display and thats when i found out
[02:01] <[-j3rg-]> i want to read register eip value when intentionally doing a buffer overflow
[02:01] <[-j3rg-]> im following some instructions from a book but not getting the same results
[02:01] <SeViLLa> sithlord48: is there something like that for kde
[02:02] <[-j3rg-]> well i could read eip register value but is not the same in the book
[02:02] <sithlord48> sevilla, you can set a screen saver on lock by having one selected in system settings ->Display->screen saver
[02:02] <sithlord48> -j3rg-, can't help you there sorry
[02:02] <[-j3rg-]> no prob mein
[02:03] <sithlord48> ok im out for a bit , gl sevilla
[02:04] <[-j3rg-]> anywayz fellaz im out
[02:04] <[-j3rg-]> later
[02:05] <SeViLLa> sithlord48: k thanks man
[02:06] <sithlord48> no problem
[02:18] <rafase282> hello
[02:22] <SeViLLa> hello
[02:23] <MoRpHeUz> sithlord48: all the tips just don't work =/
[02:23] <MoRpHeUz> Riddell: ping
[02:28] <stevo_> hello
[02:28] <[azrael]> hei
[02:28] <[azrael]> which kde version is newest kubuntu?
[02:29] <stevo_> any1 have any kubuntu/kde probs?
[02:29] <stevo_> 4.2x I htink
[02:30] <stevo_> im not sure tho
[02:31] <hyperboreean> hey, my system just crashed and I can't get into it ... how can I actually delete some packages using a live cd?
[02:31] <[azrael]> how is it
[02:32] <gianni> Ciao a tutti
[02:32] <[azrael]> opensuse 11.2 or kubuntu karmic koala?
[02:41] <kavurt> hyperboreean: I think you  can mount the partition, let's say to /mnt. and than, sudo chroot /mnt. and you can remove your packages. I belive.
[02:42] <hyperboreean> kavurt: thanks, I already did that .. I should've looked deeper
[02:42] <hyperboreean> sorry
[02:42] <hyperboreean> now I am just dropping that fglrx bullshit
[02:42] <hyperboreean> ati doesn't work at al in karmic
[02:43] <mulvus> shame i was going to buy an ati
[02:44] <hyperboreean> mulvus: I just bought a whole laptop and spent 2 days with the wifi card
[02:44] <hyperboreean> and today with the video card
[02:44] <mulvus> what about old ones? r300? i would like use oss drivers + compositing
[02:44] <[azrael]> has someone experience with opensuse?
[02:44] <hyperboreean> have no idea, this is my first ati card
[02:44] <mulvus> hyperboreean: annoying for sure!
[02:45] <hyperboreean> mulvus: when I finally got wifi to work I can't get 3d acc
[02:45] <hyperboreean> jockey, envyng nothing works
[02:46] <mulvus> hyperboreean: im hoping the old ati cards will have good support + there cheap
[02:46] <hyperboreean> yeah, hopefully I have an ATI firegl v5700
[02:47] <hyperboreean> I hope I can get it to work this week
[02:47] <mulvus> unfortunately these things are hit and miss.
[02:48] <mulvus> my current intel card works like a charm though. but i want a hd monitor, and i doubt it will drive it :(
[02:48] <hyperboreean> I was pretty lucky that some guy provided a patch for my wifi chipset just a couple of days ago
[02:48] <hyperboreean> but with the video card, might be a mess
[02:48] <hyperboreean> I want to go with a dual monitor setup
[02:48] <hyperboreean> and without 3d acc I don't if that's possible
[02:49] <Roasted> Does anybody have Virtualbox from the official web site on their kubuntu system?
[02:50] <SeViLLa> Roasted: whats up
[02:50] <Roasted> hows life
[02:51] <SeViLLa> Roasted: good, so vbox isn't working for you
[02:51] <Roasted> nope
[02:51] <Roasted> it wont install
[02:51] <Roasted> the deb package errors out
[02:52] <SeViLLa> Roasted: did you try and install it in the terminal
[02:52] <Roasted> no, I just... double clicked like you do with any other deb package.
[02:53] <SeViLLa> Roasted: open konsol and try sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[02:53] <Roasted> that's for the repo version though
[02:53] <Roasted> I like to stay with the newest version from the web site
[02:53] <Roasted> hate to sound like this, but it works in ubuntu. Not sure why it doesnt work here.
[02:54] <SeViLLa> Roasted: i here you
[02:54] <corigo2> How can I load KDE 4.3.3 on my Kubuntu 9.04?
[02:54] <Roasted> I dont believe you can, corigo2
[02:54] <Roasted> I think only 4.3.2 is backported
[02:54] <Roasted> i installed 4.3.2 earlier today and Im on jaunty
[02:55] <Roasted> http://www.kubuntu.org/new/kde-4.3.2
[02:55] <Roasted> add that repo, then click "this page" on that link to view the keys
[02:55] <Roasted> add the 2 commands for the keys
[02:55] <Roasted> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <Roasted> that's what I did for 4.3.2 on 9.04
[02:59] <SeViLLa> Roasted: is 3.0 the latest version
[02:59] <SeViLLa> Roasted: for virtual machine
[02:59] <Roasted> 3.0.14 or osmething like that
[02:59] <Roasted> .12 I have
[02:59] <Roasted> 3.0.12 is the deb I DLed from the site
[03:02] <SeViLLa> Roasted: it just work for me and im on Karmic
[03:03] <Roasted> Kubuntu?
[03:03] <SeViLLa> Roasted: yes sir
[03:04] <Roasted> I get KPackageKit - Sorry, an error occured.
[03:07] <Roasted> and you installed 3.0.12 as well?
[03:07] <Roasted> for Ubuntu?
[03:08] <SeViLLa> Roasted: i downloaded the one for  ubuntu Karmic  and it worked
[03:09] <SeViLLa> 3.0
[03:09] <Roasted> well, Im on jaunty
[03:09] <Roasted> but Ill try karmic
[03:09] <Roasted> watch it work, I'll be like wtf times 10
[03:09] <SeViLLa> lol
[03:09] <Roasted> naw, same error
[03:09] <Roasted> just tried
[03:10] <SeViLLa> what is it saying
[03:10] <Roasted> ity just says an error occured
[03:10] <Roasted> I hit okay and it closes
[03:10] <Roasted> I dont even have the chance to launch it
[03:11] <SeViLLa> Roasted: i dont know then sorry,  good luck
[03:12] <Roasted> sevilla, have you ever heard people say KDE is bloated?
[03:13] <SeViLLa> Roasted: no i just switched to it
[03:13] <Roasted> me too
[03:13] <Roasted> I dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu
[03:13] <SeViLLa> Roasted: same here
[03:13] <Roasted> I installed kubuntu to try it out and I got hooked :P
[03:13] <SeViLLa> Roasted: yup
[03:13] <Roasted> my cousin, a linux fanatic, told me kde was bloated
[03:13] <Roasted> so I did a little test
[03:13] <Roasted> I booted to ubuntu and checked sys monitor without opening anything
[03:14] <Roasted> then I booted to kubuntu and did the same thing
[03:14] <SeViLLa> Roasted: i love it so fa
[03:14] <Roasted> ubuntu 9.04 on a fresh boot was using 372MB of RAM
[03:14] <SeViLLa> far
[03:14] <Roasted> kubuntu 9.04 on a fresh boot was using 274MB of RAM
[03:14] <Roasted> lol @ bloated
[03:15] <SeViLLa> Roasted: im still using hardy for ubuntu though
[03:16] <Roasted> think you'll switch to kde full time?
[03:16] <SeViLLa> brb
[03:32] <SeViLLa> Roasted: any luck with it
[03:36] <Roasted> sevilla - I just installed the version from the repos. Now I'm trying to get my existing hard disks matched up with it.
[03:36] <Roasted> its proving to be a headache
[03:45] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:29] <Guest38753> hi
[04:31] <zerq> Roasted: I think it was you who suggested earlier today I use the gtk network applet in KDE, working perfectly now thanks ;)
[04:42] <Roasted> Does anybody have Virtualbox running on Kubuntu?
[04:43] <ricky_> any girls
[04:43] <Roasted> girls?
[04:43] <Roasted> do you know what kind of chat room this is?
[04:44] <Guest42288> no
[04:44] <Roasted> clearly
[04:44] <Roasted> please find the nearest X in the upper right corner
[04:44] <Guest42288> what is it
[04:44] <Roasted> it's a computer chat about Kubuntu, an open source and completely badass operating system
[04:44] <Roasted> www.kubuntu.com
[04:44] <Roasted> jackass
[04:49] <pxwebdev> [criipt]:
[04:51] <dhq> hey,i need to know how to get the water ripple effect in kubuntu 9.10
[05:37] <code4831> yay everything's black now.  That Oxygen theme was too much color for me.
[06:20] <Guest64424> kklk
[06:22] <genii> Guest64424: You have some actual question ?
[06:26] <Roasted> whats up - anyone out there?
[06:27] <avihay> could be
[06:46] <bradpitt> idk why equalizer amarok is not working, it's even not active. any hints?
[08:28] <Pricey> Hmm
[09:05] <chilli0> Hi
[09:05] <chilli0> I am wtfing atm
[09:06] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[09:06] <chilli0> Somehow gnome is running at the same time as kde
[09:07] <rickxsteele> hola !
[09:08] <rickxsteele> hay alguien ahi !
[09:08] <Tm_T> rickxsteele: espanol?
[09:08] <rickxsteele> si
[09:08] <Tm_T> !es | rickxsteele
[09:08] <rickxsteele> alguien habla español ?
[09:08] <chilli0> My widgets have gone and i have the  gnome background
[09:09] <Tm_T> chilli0: hmm, what have you done before getting this?
[09:09] <chilli0> not sure
[09:10] <Tm_T> chilli0: ok, are you familiar with commandline?
[09:10] <chilli0> a bit
[09:11] <Tm_T> chilli0: ok, open Konsole and enter "ls ~/.config/autostart/"
[09:13] <chilli0> compiz.desktop	gnome-do.desktop
[09:13] <chilli0> http://imagebin.ca/view/lM7JAEYO.html      my desktop
[09:14] <Tm_T> chilli0: only those two?
[09:14] <chilli0> yep
[09:16] <chilli0> It gets weirder
[09:16] <chilli0> every 5mins or so
[09:16] <chilli0> the pannels stop working and i lose internet
[09:19] <chilli0> Tm_T: Nautills is the issue
[09:20] <Tm_T> chilli0: do this "mkdir ~/.config/autostart/removed/ && mv ~/.config/autostart/*.desktop ~/.config/autostart/removed/"
[09:21] <Tm_T> chilli0: this creates folder to keep those desktop files out from autostart but available if you do need them for some reason
[09:21] <chilli0> Tm_T: I got it
[09:21] <Tm_T> chilli0: now relogin and tell me if it did it, if not, there's more to do (:
[09:22] <chilli0> its when nautils runs
[09:22] <Tm_T> chilli0: hmm, you run it manually? I mean you launch it yourself?
[09:23] <chilli0> Not that i know of lol
[09:25] <Tm_T> chilli0: ok, did you try relogin if that thing has gone away?
[09:26] <chilli0> Tm_T:  It happens randomly
[09:27] <Tm_T> chilli0: hmm, there is some pattern, like, you launch something
[09:27] <chilli0> Mos of the time im on google chrome
[09:28] <Tm_T> and it just suddenly pops in?
[09:28] <chilli0> Yeh
[09:28] <Tm_T> chilli0: possibly you click something?
[09:29] <chilli0> Tm_T: Dont think so
[09:29] <Tm_T> chilli0: ok, try relogin and see if it is gone, if it still triggers, just ask here and we try to find out if it's something else then
[09:33] <chilli0> ty
[10:11] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:18] <fkefer> Hi all
[10:19] <fkefer> short question: how can i make kdm default-start into my $HOME/.xinitrc script instead of startkde ???
[10:23] <bradpitt> does anybody can help me to update phonon, i want to make equalizer in amarok working. thank you.
[10:25] <zambit> http://how-to-kubuntu.yolasite.com/
[10:36] <fkefer> haha, found it; it's .xsession, not .xinitrc anymore
[11:30] <olimpico> Hello, I have a question, can someone help me please?
[11:30] <etreus> yes
[11:31] <olimpico> I had troubles with fonts, after the installation, they where extremely small, I corrected it but when i run applications as root, the very samll fonts are unreadable
[11:31] <olimpico> How can i apply the font changes also to applications running as root?
[11:31] <olimpico> I'm using kubuntu 9.10
[11:32] <olimpico> The problem is that when i run synaptics or even the kpackagemanager, after typing the root passwd then all fonts will become unreadable
[11:33] <etreus> ok, whait
[11:33] <olimpico> Any body knows how to correct this?
[11:33] <olimpico> etreus: OK, thanks!
[11:35] <olimpico> ..
[11:35] <arWi> Hi. I started to help a 70++-year old gentleman who had used Windows his entire life. Now it seems he has "slept" over few upgrades.. so what would be the simplest method to upgrade from 7.04 to 9.10 ? (Network is a bit slow, but exists).
[11:35] <etreus> you can try to start systemsettings by root
[11:36] <Tm_T> olimpico: how you run these apps as root?
[11:36] <olimpico> arWi: The simplest way would be to backup all the important data ans make a new installation
[11:36] <etreus> with sudo systemsettings
[11:36] <arWi> hmm. I presume does the installer does not touch to home dir?
[11:37] <Tm_T> etreus: no, one should _never_ run GUI applications with sudo
[11:37] <arWi> olimpico: I presume does the installer does not touch to home dir?
[11:37] <olimpico> Tm_T: Synaptic or Kpackage, just from the Kmenu, then I'm prompted to type the root passwd
[11:37] <Tm_T> arWi: no
[11:37] <Tm_T> arWi: well, shouldn't anyway, but backup is good idea anyway in time to time so why not now
[11:37] <olimpico> arWi: The problem is that the configuration files have changed a lot from 7.10 to 9.10
[11:38] <olimpico> arWi: So it doesn't make sense to leave them all
[11:38] <arWi> olimpico: yeah, now i got it.
[11:39] <olimpico> arWi: But it should damage anything neither
[11:39] <Tm_T> olimpico: hmm, try running "kdesudo kcmshell4 fonts"
[11:41] <arWi> olimpico: It might be best just to backup entire homedir (with conf-files included), do clean install, and restore all but confs. And if there is something to be copy/pasted from confs, access them.
[11:41] <arWi> but anyway, tnx guys for pointing out that upgrade+upgrade+upgrade is not an option.
[11:42] <olimpico> arWi: Yes, I'll backup all, but only copy back the data and not the config files
[11:42] <olimpico> Tm_T: Thanks a lot, that worked great!!!
[11:42] <olimpico> I have to go now, cheers!
[11:43] <arWi> I'm off too. Tnx and bye.
[12:07] <silv3r_m00n> can I get a qt build of firefox for ubuntu ?
[12:15] <siravm> Hi Friends
[12:15] <Tm_T> hi hi
[12:16] <Tm_T> silv3r_m00n: I don't think there's any project actively developing such thing
[12:18] <siravm> Hi friends, i have a small query . i am very much interested in the desltop animation side of karmic kolala KDE. i would like to add the cylinder and sphere option to my desktop animation and its not working
[12:19] <silv3r_m00n> Tm_T: I guess there is ....http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/
[12:19] <siravm> i tried Cube ioption and it works perfectly
[12:19] <Tm_T> siravm: did you change your desktop transition effect accordingly?
[12:21] <siravm> in the Edged screens i have selected cube on one, cylinder on one , spere and dashboard on thes but dashboard and cube is alone working
[12:21] <Tm_T> silv3r_m00n: even that you're gone, just saying that in that project there's been no activity in over a year
[12:21] <Tm_T> siravm: hmmm, this is with newest KDE version available?
[12:21] <siravm> yes
[12:22] <Tm_T> siravm: hmm, I don't know then
[12:29] <siravm> Thanks
[12:31] <andri> helo
[12:34] <amichair> andri: hi
[12:35] <amichair> andri: no need to send a private message, if u have questions, you can ask them here
[12:35] <andri> ok
[12:36] <andri> ok
[12:36] <andri> hello benutzer
[12:48] <alid> Is there any way to force dolphin to hide file names that end with ~ just like .bak files?
[13:08] <luca> hy, i have a kde user account that won't logout or shutdown. With other users everything is fine
[13:08] <luca> how may i reset a user account
[13:09] <Tm_T> luca: hmm, there's no such buttons with that user or buttons doesn't work?
[13:09] <luca> yes, there are buttons
[13:10] <Tm_T> luca: hmm, but _nothing_ happens when you click them?
[13:10] <luca> only the 30 second count down appears
[13:11] <luca> then skype an hpmanager shut down but nothing else happens
[13:11] <Tm_T> luca: and there's no button to apply the shutdown?
[13:11] <luca> yes, i still have buttons but clicking they simply doesn't work
[13:12] <Tm_T> luca: ok, that sounds bit weird, hmmmm
[13:12] <amichair> if some apps start to shutdown and others not, maybe it's one of them that's getting stuck during shutdown and blocking the rest
[13:13] <Tm_T> luca: do you have other users in background when this happens?
[13:13] <luca> no
[13:13] <Tm_T> ok, then it's not related to anything like that...
[13:13] <Tm_T> maybe someone else have better ideas (:
[13:14] <luca> but if i login with a different user than everythin is fine
[13:14] <amichair> luca: if u start out by shutting down all apps manually (including tray icons), do they all close properly? is shutdown still stuck?
[13:14] <luca> let me try
[13:15] <luca> see you later
[13:18] <luca> here i am, i pressed shutdown button but i'm still able to launch konversation
[13:19] <amichair> luca: did all other apps close? is there anything left open?
[13:19] <luca> yes
[13:20] <luca> i made a file out of ps x output, before and after pressing shutdown butto
[13:20] <luca> can i post it here?
[13:21] <amichair> !pastebin
[13:25] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/329351/
[13:25] <luca> wow very nice !
[13:26] <Tm_T> luca: to me it looks like your skype atleast doesn't get shut down there
[13:28] <amichair> yep, it's there. luca: did u try killing it manually?
[13:28] <luca> now i try sudo killall skype, mind that i have a pending shutdown so if it all goes well, see you next reboot
[13:29] <luca> skype.real is killed
[13:29] <luca> i try a shutdown
[13:29] <luca> nothing happens
[13:30] <amichair> maybe becaue you already tried to start one before it's now in an inconsistent state... not sure
[13:30] <luca> i retry the above with a fresh boot, hold on
[13:30] <amichair> yes, good idea
[13:37] <pnggn> hi all
[13:40] <luca> nothing to do
[13:40] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/329372/
[13:44] <luca> after quitting skype i'm still unable to shutdown
[13:44] <luca> and to logout either
[13:48] <bradpitt> hi. does anybody here can help me to make equalizer in amarok works? i'm on kde 4.3.3 amarok 2.2.1 kubuntu karmic. friend from #amarok said that i need to get the latest phonon to make it works. but i don't know how to. thank you.
[13:56] <amichair> luca: well it's hard to tell, but since shutdown does begin but then gets stuck, maybe u can try killing the other related processes one by one until u find the bad one
[13:58] <luca> tanks amichair, i'll try
[13:58] <amichair> luca: sorry I can't help more specifically :-)
[13:59] <luca> tanks by
[14:05] <shadeslayer> hi,i was wondering if someone knew how to downgrade qt packages via apt?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> not my complete system just specific packages,i installed them via the kubuntu experimental PPA
[14:05] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: hmm, first thing, why?
[14:06] <mysoogal> can anybody install rtorrent for me i buy cheap vps im not sure where to start :O
[14:06] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: well,since 1)Amarok is not compiling with 4.6, 2)My whole system has become slow,3)some apps are not working
[14:07] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: um : sudo apt-get install rtorrent :
[14:07] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: but anyway, it's simple as "sudo dpkg --install /path/to/old/package.deb
[14:07] <mysoogal> i done that already :( but no gui
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: ok,thats well and good,but how do i get the old packages?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: rtorrent is a CLI app :)
[14:08] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: try ktorrent for gui...
[14:08] <mysoogal> yes i know it, but the web gui not there when i sudo apt-get install
[14:08] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: if you don't have them in your apt cache, then download them from the source
[14:08] <mysoogal> is someone willing to install rtorrent for me with gui ? i will give you ssh login
[14:09] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: and compile them? or download the .debs? i dont know which packages were upgraded....
[14:09] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: did you install rtpg-www ?
[14:09] <mysoogal> i really not sure what i done i try to follow to many tutorials but always fail
[14:10] <mysoogal> i try to install that rtGUi but that didnt go well i try to install that wtorrent thing even that didnt go well
[14:11] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: install rtpg-www and see its man pages,that should probably be your first step
[14:11] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: any ideas? :)
[14:11] <mysoogal> what is rtpg-www ?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: the web gui front end for rtorrent
[14:12] <mysoogal> is it Web Gui ? not appliaction gui ?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> !info rtpg-www | mysoogal
[14:13] <mysoogal> ok , so first i install sudo apt-get install rtorrent ok i've done that
[14:13] <mysoogal> next i need to install sudo apt-get install rtpg-www ?
[14:13] <mysoogal> and i should get the web gui ?
[14:14] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: yes,if you know the correct address to the gui
[14:14] <mysoogal> im going to try right now i have ssh open now
[14:15] <mysoogal> i get this E: Couldn't find package rtpg-www
[14:15] <genii> enable universe
[14:15] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: do you have universe?
[14:16] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[14:16] <mysoogal> shades, i have VPS server with no software installed
[14:16] <mysoogal> i think only apache2 and thats about it
[14:16] <mysoogal> i dont have desktop install which takes long time to install
[14:17] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: edit : /etc/apt/sources.list : and un comment the universe repo
[14:17] <mysoogal> ok like this nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:17] <mysoogal> ?
[14:17] <genii> with sudo but otherwise correct
[14:18] <mysoogal> i have 3 deb urls
[14:18] <mysoogal> i have these
[14:18] <mysoogal> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe
[14:18] <mysoogal> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-updates main restricted universe
[14:19] <mysoogal> same thing
[14:19] <genii> !info rtpg-www hardy
[14:19] <mysoogal> my vps i think run ubuntu ?
[14:19] <mysoogal> 7 or 8 not sure
[14:19] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: hardy? um karmic is the latest
[14:20] <mysoogal> how to install the rtpg-www ?
[14:20] <mysoogal> need to add more sources ?
[14:21] <mocoop> I need some help with my wireless internet.  Can anyone assist me?
[14:21] <shadeslayer> mocoop: sure just ask :)
[14:22] <mocoop> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop and I cannot get the system to recognize the laptop
[14:22] <mocoop> wirelell
[14:22] <mocoop> sorry shade
[14:22] <shadeslayer> mocoop: ok,can you pastebin the output of : lspci : ?
[14:22] <mocoop> how do I do that?  I am new to this os
[14:23] <mysoogal> still not working E: Couldn't find package rtpg-www
[14:23] <mysoogal>  
[14:23] <shadeslayer> mocoop: ok,i guess you have kubuntu? press : alt+F2 : and type : konsole : and hit enter
[14:23] <mysoogal> i added all the sources here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Repositories
[14:23] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: hardy doesnt have the packages i guess
[14:23] <mocoop> I have ubuntu 9.10 installed
[14:24] <mysoogal> :( so i cant install it
[14:24] <shadeslayer> mysoogal: probably,by compiling it from sources,you can,not very sure though
[14:24] <shadeslayer> mocoop: ok,replace konsole with : gnome-terminal
[14:24] <mysoogal> i dont have comiliing my vps very thin
[14:25] <mocoop> shade: i have a terminal window open
[14:25] <mysoogal> wait maybe i can im sudo apt-get update now
[14:26] <shadeslayer> mocoop: type : lspci : and pastebin the ouput to : www.pastebin.ca :
[14:27] <mysoogal> i get this thing what is it  Could not read resource file: ~/.rtorrent.rc
[14:27] <mocoop> shade: how should it look in the terminal window?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> mocoop: it should throw up lots of lines.... :)
[14:28] <Vroomfondle> it should be a list of all your hardware devices, mocoop
[14:28] <shadeslayer> (technically all the PCI devices)
[14:28] <mocoop> shade: i typed lspci and got a lot of lines.  now whats next?
[14:29] <shadeslayer> mocoop: copy them and paste them to the site i said
[14:34] <shadeslayer> mocoop: there?
[14:34] <mocoop> shade:  here is the address www.pastebin.ca/1689592
[14:35] <shadeslayer> mocoop: you have a broadcom card....
[14:35] <shadeslayer> mocoop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:36] <mocoop> shade: yes i do and the computer has a button to turn the wireless on and off.  it works fine with windows but not with ubuntu
[14:37] <shadeslayer> mocoop: ok one more thing,turn the wifi off and then on again and pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[14:37] <mocoop> shade: the button does not work with ubuntu
[14:37] <shadeslayer> mocoop: guess what! the wiki has the same card as you :o
[14:38] <mocoop> shade: should i just follow the instructions on the wiki?
[14:39] <shadeslayer> mocoop: yeah,it has the same card as you,lucky you :)
[14:39] <mocoop> shade: thanks for the help.  I am going to stay in chat until i get this working properly
[14:39] <shadeslayer> mocoop: sure :)
[14:46] <jacquesdupontd> hey everybody
[14:46] <jacquesdupontd> my kubuntu is nearly perfect but i have a really anoying problem and i don't find any way to resolve it
[14:46] <jacquesdupontd> i have one of the best computers and it's loading really really slow
[14:47] <jacquesdupontd> and that, since one time i had video card driver problems and i launched kde4 process and since this time, it seems it keeps loading it everytime i boot
[14:48] <jacquesdupontd> i'm choosing the option to boot a brand new session, not to remember the last one, i'm choosing kde instead of default also i've checked every startup entries but there's nothing except the normal gtk engine, i've checked services but same i don't know
[14:49] <jacquesdupontd> to tell you what is really happening during the load or after the load i see again the picture of the login frame and then it loads
[14:49] <jacquesdupontd> exactly like when i had launched kde4 by mistake
[14:50] <jacquesdupontd> i can't kill kde4 process everytime i boot, where is it starting from ? where is it set ? and one other thing, in my menu i don't have anymore my restart or shutdown options
[14:52] <mocoop> shade: how do I install b43-fwcutter from my ubuntu disk?
[14:53] <jacquesdupontd> you just set your internet connection and do the upgrade and then check for propriety drivers
[14:53] <shadeslayer> mocoop: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter : in a terminal
[14:54] <jacquesdupontd> yeah another way :)
[14:54] <jacquesdupontd> nobody has any idea for my problem i don't want to reinstall kubuntu just for that
[14:54] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: um actually i cant understand the problem :D
[14:55] <jacquesdupontd> that's really something i reproch to kubuntu it's that sometimes you have that kind of problems and there's no log and no way to understand the problem
[14:55] <jacquesdupontd> same here
[14:55] <mocoop> shade: thanks for the help.  i have to restart to see if this worked.  I may be back soon!
[14:55] <jacquesdupontd> but this only happens in kubuntu, but at the same time it's so beautiful that i would like to keep it
[14:55] <shadeslayer> mocoop: best of luck
[14:56] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: ok you install kubuntu-desktop right?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> *installed
[14:56] <jacquesdupontd> no i installed kubuntu from the beginning
[14:57] <jacquesdupontd> could you check if you have kde4  process in your monitor
[14:57] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: ok,like you had kubuntu from the beginning,ok whats the problem,in short and in one line please
[14:58] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[14:59] <jacquesdupontd> one time, my desktop was not loading so i did an alt+f2 and stared kde4 in fact it started from behind the login page but without login forms and since this time everytime i load kubuntu i see it loads kde4 process again and i see just a few second the login page again and it's loading very slow
[15:00] <jacquesdupontd> and i have an i7 and 4 gigs of ram
[15:00] <jacquesdupontd> so that doesn't comes from my computer cause it was loading very fast before
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Hello folks
[15:03] <bradpitt> hi BluesKaj
[15:03] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: i cant seem to figure the problem out,try renaming you .kde folder,that will reset everything to defaults and you can check if the problem persists
[15:04] <BluesKaj> hi bradpitt
[15:05] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : do you how to make equalizer working in amarok?
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> i can try that but i have to save my conf files then
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> that's an idea
[15:06] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: yeah,just rename the folder
[15:07] <BluesKaj> bradpitt, sorry , don't use amarok, but woupn't it be under tools or options or some such
[15:08] <jacquesdupontd> ok and then i will put the configuration files i need
[15:08] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: btw any idea on how to get apt to reinstall all dependencies of kubuntu-desktop?
[15:09] <jacquesdupontd> in my /home i have a .directory file is that normal ?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: yeah
[15:09] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[15:09] <bradpitt> BluesKaj : it's ok.. i already ask in #amarok and someone said i need to get the latest phonon. but i just don't know how to update this thing. btw, i'm on kde 4.3.3 kubuntu karmic and amarok 2.2.1
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> i rename it and check
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> it will automaticly rebuild a new one right ?
[15:10] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: you dont have to rename that :)
[15:10] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: just rename .kde to .kde_old
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> i know :)
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> what ?
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> i was about to rename jacquesdupontd
[15:10] <shadeslayer> yes,just logout and login back in
[15:11] <noren> [ 4146.452849] vlc[2360]: segfault at 0 ip 02b9b527 sp b6d47190 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[2b4e000+22b000]<< need help with this
[15:11] <shadeslayer> noren: whats that 0.0
[15:11] <jacquesdupontd> is it normal that i don't have permission to go inside that folder ?
[15:12] <jacquesdupontd> it could come from that problem no ?
[15:12] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: uh,no its not
[15:12] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[15:12] <jacquesdupontd> so i rename it
[15:12] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: now logout and login :D
[15:12] <jacquesdupontd> jacquesdupontd@jacquesdupontd-kubuntu:/$ sudo rename .kde .kde_old
[15:12] <jacquesdupontd> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "."
[15:13] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: why sudo ?
[15:13] <jacquesdupontd> to rename the kde it's in the root
[15:13] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: you can just rename it by your own permissions...
[15:13] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: no it should not be in root
[15:13] <jacquesdupontd> doesn't seems
[15:13] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: not necessary in the /home directory
[15:13] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, sudo dpkg --configure -a , then, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:13] <jacquesdupontd> i thought all that i not in the /home is sudo
[15:13] <noren> shadeslayer, cant play vid in VLC this is what i get in dmesg !! :(
[15:14] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hmm...
[15:14] <g_giulio> hi
[15:14] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: but .kde *is* in the home directory
[15:14] <shadeslayer> noren: did you try and see if libqtcore4 is installed?
[15:14] <g_giulio> please some 1 help me?
[15:14] <jacquesdupontd> oh ok
[15:14] <jacquesdupontd> i have on in the /
[15:14] <jacquesdupontd> that's why
[15:14] <noren> shadeslayer, yes it is and i did a reinstall again same prob !!
[15:14] <Mamarok> !ask | g_giulio
[15:14] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: dont remove the one on /
[15:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, shadeslayer , that's what i would do , unless you remove kubuntu-desktop first then reinstall it, but that seems kinda drastic to me
[15:15] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: well, then something is worng, it should not be there, unless you started KDE as root, which is equaly wrong
[15:15] <g_giulio> ok,sorry... my cpu work at 100% 4ever.-..why?
[15:15] <g_giulio> before don't work in this why...
[15:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i was dumb and went on to try the qt 4.6 packages in kubuntu experimental
[15:16] <jacquesdupontd> i should remove that file ?
[15:16] <g_giulio> from today is here...
[15:16] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: which one?
[15:16] <Mamarok> g_giulio: if you run top in a konsole, you can see what is taking up the CPU
[15:16] <jacquesdupontd> the / one cause i have the normal one in /home
[15:16] <g_giulio> tyes i know...
[15:16] <jacquesdupontd> i think that is the problem
[15:16] <g_giulio> thanks
[15:16] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, make sure all the right repos are enabled as well
[15:16] <jacquesdupontd> i'm gonna try to remove the one in / directory
[15:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah im doing all the correction stuff right now :)
[15:16] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: make a backup
[15:16] <shadeslayer> jacquesdupontd: no dont do it
[15:17] <jacquesdupontd> i come back :)
[15:17] <g_giulio> and i can't see someting wrong...
[15:17] <jacquesdupontd> too late
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i think the / one has all the default stuff
[15:17] <jacquesdupontd> anyway i don't care about reinstalling it it's so fast to configure it now
[15:17] <Mamarok> g_giulio: you can see which application uses the 100% CPU with top, no?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, try sudo dpkg --clear-avail , then the updates
[15:18] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I don't think so, I don't even have a .kde in /
[15:18] <shadeslayer> hmm... well i removed that repo and installed the qt 4.5 packages by : libqtcore4=(package default in cache)
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmmm... youre right... how did a kde folder get into /
[15:19] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: easy, starting KDE as root does it
[15:19] <shadeslayer> oh... didnt know that.
[15:19] <Mamarok> and obviously he had the good idea to run the desktop as root, no wonder
[15:20] <g_giulio> fuck damn ktorrent... i've killed... i didn't know thah i can see the % in top...
[15:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: oh btw,doesnt amarok compile with qt 4.6?
[15:20] <g_giulio> tanks a lot!!!!!
[15:20] <genii> !language | g_giulio
[15:20] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: it depends on Qt 4.4
[15:21] <shadeslayer> well when i tried to compile it,it said the moc has changed alot,dont know what that means
[15:21] <g_giulio> ok ok thanks so mach to all!!!
[15:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: and Qt 4.6 introduced a few very weird things that make most of KDE apps freak out, please report upstream: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com
[15:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah most of my apps dont work with qt 4.6 :P
[15:21] <noren> how to purge and reinstall vlc
[15:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: the best is not to use it system wide, just test it locally only
[15:22] <LjL> noren: "sudo apt-get --purge remove vlc ; sudo apt-get install vlc"
[15:22] <shadeslayer> bleh,LjL beat me to it
[15:22] <LjL> noren: not that that's likely to help with anything
[15:22] <jacquesdupontd> did the same
[15:22] <jacquesdupontd> after removing the .kde from the / directory
[15:22] <g_giulio> thanks mamarok .i've killed ktorrent and all it's ok!!!!
[15:23] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: do not run KDE as root, it only drives you into problems, that's how you got that .kde there
[15:23] <jacquesdupontd> im tring to rename the .kde in the terminal but the command deosn't seems to work
[15:23] <Mamarok> g_giulio: yes, I read that, no need to shout :)
[15:23] <jacquesdupontd> i'm not running it in root it was a mistake that's why i deleted this file
[15:23] <jacquesdupontd> don't you understand
[15:23] <Mamarok> g_giulio: one exclamation mark is enough
[15:24] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: yes, I do, but it ended up there because you ran it as root
[15:24] <BluesKaj> bbl...
[15:24] <jacquesdupontd> i know what is root and not root it makes 5 years i'm on ubuntu but i must admit kubuntu is beautiful but working weirdly
[15:24] <jacquesdupontd> possible yes
[15:24] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: it doesn't work weird for me :)
[15:24] <g_giulio> ok bb at all!
[15:24] <jacquesdupontd> but now i need to resolve it not to say myself i should have done that, cause it doesn't resolve anything and i already now it and i don't know how it happened
[15:24] <Mamarok> jacquesdupontd: sudo for cli applications, kdesudo for GUI, and only if you really need to, wich is most of the time never
[15:26] <Mamarok> you most likely messed up your permissions if you ran a GUI with just sudo
[15:28] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: bleh,i manually downgraded packages by hand and everything works
[15:29] <noren> !mkv
[15:31] <shadeslayer> noren: do you have libqtcore4 installed?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> um i just lost my file,menu,etc buttons on konsole ><
[16:19] <Dayvi> hey
[16:27] <bers> hola
[16:28] <rork> shadeslayer: right mouse > show menu bar?
[16:29] <genii> !es | bers
[16:38] <shadeslayer> rork: thanks
[16:38] <shadeslayer> brb
[16:47] <noren> cant play x264 vid in vlc or in any media player ?? how to debug ??
[16:48] <noren> wat packages are needed in for playing x264 encoded vids
[16:50] <nik_> hello
[16:50] <noren> !hi | nik_
[16:51] <nik_> If a download finished in firefox there was this small popup window in kubuntu on the bottom right...this is gone now and I don't know why...any hint?
[16:52] <noren> genii, is there specialized channel for vlc or resolving multimedia issues ??
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> noren: is libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[16:52] <noren> yes i got the below problem
[16:53] <noren> [19147.406083] vlc[4786]: segfault at 0 ip 03524527 sp b6cf4190 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[34d7000+22b000]
[16:54] <noren> nik_, start libnotify i guess
[16:55] <Aurelio> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu through VirtualBox, but I've noticed that it runs a lot slower than Windows XP Pro through Virtual box. Is that normal?
[16:56] <nik_> noren: how to start a lib?
[16:56] <noren> Aurelio, because running in virtual box kubuntu is not getting enough resource..... kubuntu is one of the heavy package... better try with a live cd
[16:56] <Aurelio> ah ok
[16:56] <genii> noren: There's #videolan which is oriented towards this. They generally have some vlc experts aroun
[16:57] <Aurelio> I didn't know kubuntu was heavier
[16:57] <shadeslayer> Aurelio: its a wee bit heavier :)
[16:57] <noren> thnks genii but the problem shown is something about libQtcore so i was asked to ask here
[16:58] <noren> Aurelio, its not as demanding as vista or win 7 but surely heaviest in the ubuntu family
[16:59]  * genii slides Mamarok a freshly brewed coffee
[17:00] <Mamarok> genii: thank you, exactly what I need now :)
[17:00] <noren> genii, any idea then for my prob with libQtcore
[17:03] <noren> [19147.406083] vlc[4786]: segfault at 0 ip 03524527 sp b6cf4190 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[34d7000+22b000]
[17:03] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i got amarok to compile with qt 4.6 :D
[17:03] <shadeslayer> noren: libqtcore4 installed?
[17:03] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: nice, just don' report Qt crashes to us but upstream, please, there are quite a few
[17:04] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok sure,it was just a matter of clearing the build cache
[17:04] <shadeslayer> (and installing libssl-dev)
[17:04] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you don't do this every time yet? :)
[17:04] <noren> shadeslayer, yes it is installed
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: nope,just a few times every build...
[17:07] <shadeslayer> noren: hmm,this a stable amarok?
[17:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: every time you add a new dependency, mandatory
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah, i just installed qt 4.6,i forgot to clear the cache :P
[17:08] <noren> i am trying to run a vid file in vlc but its not opening ... shadeslayer i m not talking abt amarok
[17:09] <shadeslayer> noren: oh sorry,i meant vlc :)
[17:09] <genii> noren: Possibly file a bug on Launchpad against package libqt4core4
[17:11] <shadeslayer> noren: this happens with every video file?
[17:12] <noren> yes shadeslayer ,, can this help me reinstall.. sudo apt-get --purge remove libQtCore* ; sudo apt-get install libQtCore*
[17:12] <shadeslayer> noren: be warned,apt will remove ALL kubuntu apps....
[17:13] <shadeslayer> (and install all dev files later on)
[17:13] <shadeslayer> noren: all the kubuntu apps depend on libqtcore4
[17:14] <noren> how to know which is the latest libQtCore latest stable release...
[17:14] <shadeslayer> noren: its 4.6 beta in backports
[17:14] <shadeslayer> (i just installed it 2 hours ago :P )
[17:15] <noren> what is the version for the stable release
[17:15] <shadeslayer> 4.5.3actually4.5.2
[17:15] <noren> libqtcore4_4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb <<  i got this from the repos
[17:16] <shadeslayer> noren: yeah thats the one
[17:16] <noren> libqtcore4_4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb <<  if this is beta how can i get back to the stable release
[17:17] <shadeslayer> backports has : 4:4.6.0~beta1-1ubuntu1~karmic1
[17:20] <noren> shadeslayer, what is the lib i need to play mpeg4
[17:22] <arquimedes> hOLA
[17:22] <shadeslayer> noren: vlc doesnt need one
[17:23] <arquimedes> Hi people
[17:23] <code08311> hey arqui
[17:23] <arquimedes> Do you speak spanish?
[17:23] <noren> !es | arquimedes
[17:23] <code08311> un poco (lo siento no comprende espanol)
[17:23] <arquimedes> Alguien esta por ahi?
[17:24] <noren> shadeslayer, i can hear the sound but no vid with mplayer
[17:24] <code08311> Does anyone know about some video chat for helping the d/Deaf/HOH with Linux?
[17:24] <arquimedes> Bueno el que me entienda, necesito ayuda con unos complementos.
[17:25] <noren> !es | arquimedes
[17:25] <arquimedes> Tengo problemas para ver videos en youtube
[17:25] <code08311> flash plugin
[17:26] <noren> !mpeg4
[17:31] <Mamarok> |es | arquimedes
[17:31] <lba> Using live Karmic Kubuntu netbook remix I see the top part of a large window starting about 1 inch from the bottom of the screen.  How to see entire window?
[17:33] <lba> The Window has Web Browser, Mail Client, System Settings, File Manager, Instant Messenger and others I just can't scroll down to.
[17:33] <noren> lba check the screen ressolution
[17:35] <gaspersky_b> hi
[17:37] <lba> noren, VGA2, LVDS2 (connected) 1124x576 (auto)  No Rotation
[17:38] <lba> noren, VGA2, LVDS2 (connected) 1124x576 (auto)  No Rotation
[17:43] <noren> lba> noren, VGA2, LVDS2 (connected) 1124x576 (auto)  No Rotation ??
[17:44] <lba> noren, No rotation is shown in a box under Size: and Orientation:
[17:44] <noren> lba, change to appropriate screen resolution
[17:45] <lba> noren, This is an HP Mini 110 and I have no idea what the resolution should be.
[17:45] <noren> lba, try with 1024 and 724
[17:46] <noren> lba i meant less screen ressolution
[17:47] <lba> noren, There are various choices but the next smallest seems to be 720x400
[17:49] <lba> noren, The screen at 720x400 only showed a small portion.  It then went crazy and went back to the orig resolution.
[17:52] <lba> noren, I'm looking in /etc/X11 but can't find an xorg.conf
[17:52] <shadeslayer> lba: it should be there
[17:52] <genii> xorg.conf isn't created by default anymore, deprecated
[17:53] <shadeslayer> genii: what handles the config then?
[17:53] <lba> genii, How to I find available resolutions?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> lba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[17:54] <genii> lba: I usually do it with something like sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[17:57] <Anyaa> lba : the resolution for hp mini 110 is 1024x600
[18:05] <xg3n1us> Guten Abend
[18:07] <faris-bps> Hey ive added a VPN to knetworkmanager but it doesn't seem to be being used
[18:11] <lba> How can I get /etc/X11/xorg.conf back again?  My resolution seems close to nominal at 1024x576 which is close to what Anyaa said (1024x600) for this HP 110 Mini.
[18:11] <lba> But there is something wrong.
[18:14] <arquimedes_> hOLA HOLA
[18:14] <arquimedes_> ¿Como esta gente?
[18:14] <genii> !es
[18:20] <bradpitt> hi.. how can i install phonon from svn?
[18:30] <lba> Rebooted this HP Mini 110 with Karmic Kubuntu Netbook Remix.  I see the top of two identical windows peeping near the bottom of my screen that contains icons for Web Browser, Mail Client, System Settings, File Manager and Internet Messenger.
[18:31] <lba> There are probably more but I cannot scroll down to the bottom of either screen.  This is the Live DVD install.  Any ideas what's going wrong?
[18:51] <nowy> witam
[18:51] <Quintasan> nowy: hi, this is not Polish support channel, please talk in english or use #ubuntu-pl :)
[18:52] <nowy> ok
[18:55] <Walzmyn> how can I see which kernel I'm running on?
[18:56] <llutz> uname -r
[19:08] <zaapiel> hello
[19:08] <zaapiel> i updated my kernel and now x11 wont start
[19:08] <zaapiel> i use the nvidia driver
[19:08] <zaapiel> is their a command to rebuild the driver?
[19:08] <zaapiel> there*
[19:09] <trudelI> zappiel, there's no way cause kubuntu kernel sux
[19:09] <zaapiel> thats a lie
[19:11] <genii> zaapiel: Just a troll, they're gone now
[19:11] <zaapiel> I just want to rebuild my nvidia driver so it works with the new kernel, how do i do that from a command line? isnt there a way to rebuild all apps that need it after a kernel upgrade?
[19:12] <genii> Usually the things which should be rebuilt are specified somewhere like in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules   or similar
[19:13] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: when you're booting up, use grub to enter the recovery mode and fix the X settings
[19:13] <genii> Although this may be only for the initial ramdisk image
[19:13] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: It might set you back to the nv driver, then you can reload the nvidia driver from the GUI
[19:14] <zaapiel> well the nvidia driver needs to be rebuilt i think is all
[19:14] <zaapiel> how do i do that?
[19:14] <zaapiel> from the command line
[19:15] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: did you load one through the propriatry drivers thingy, or did you download the driver youself?
[19:16] <Quintasan> zaapiel: you installed them via jockey?
[19:16] <majid> hi all
[19:16] <Quintasan> !hi | majid
[19:16] <majid> it's my first IRC chat!
[19:16] <majid> hello world!
[19:16] <Quintasan> lol majid chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please :)
[19:17] <majid> i'm doing
[19:17] <majid> :)
[19:17] <zaapiel> Walzmy_: propriatary drivers from within synaptic
[19:17] <zaapiel> i see the package
[19:18] <zaapiel> i just want to know how to make it reinstall it
[19:18] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: do a compete uninstall then re-install would be my guess
[19:18] <zaapiel> ok
[19:18]  * zaapiel tries
[19:18] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: apt-get purge {package}
[19:21] <zaapiel> no dice
[19:21] <s2r> hi.
[19:21] <zaapiel> brb
[19:21] <s2r> Does anybody know if it is possible to log to an existing X session remotely with NX?
[19:21] <Walzmy_> zaapiel: my only other idea would be to use the recovery option at boot up to fix X, sorry I can't help ya more
[19:33] <high-rez> Are the major bug fixes for digikam ever going to get pushed down to end users ?
[19:40] <bainco> buonasera
[19:41] <bainco> sono solo
[20:00] <mariano_> motel woodstock
[20:02] <genii> mariano_: You have some Kubuntu support question, or no?
[20:07] <abdoupirat> hello
[20:07] <abdoupirat> i need a help body
[20:07] <abdoupirat> can someone help me
[20:07] <genii> !anybody | abdoupirat
[20:08] <kosmofield> is there any good random slideshow program for kubuntu?
[20:09] <abdoupirat> i want to make an audio server
[20:09] <abdoupirat> i want to lestin a music on my iphone via ubuntu
[20:16] <paolopoz> Hello all! Need help with kubuntu 9.10 and kde 4.3.3: after mistakenly removing kde-window-manager I reinstalled it but now I cannot logoff or turn off computer using kde
[20:16] <paolopoz> any guess? thanks.
[20:26] <djSupport-linux> hi wich file and where do I modify the grub bootloader options?
[20:28] <genii> djSupport-linux: It depends which Grub
[20:28] <djSupport-linux> i have latest kubuntu new install
[20:28] <djSupport-linux> genii:
[20:29] <genii> djSupport-linux: Then grub2
[20:29] <genii> !grub2
[20:29] <djSupport-linux> in there somewhere I guess? genii
[20:29] <djSupport-linux> thank you
[20:30] <genii> djSupport-linux: Yes, in there somewhere. Apologies on terseness, work needs me quite a lot right now
[20:30] <djSupport-linux> genii: no problem enjoy your work :)
[20:35] <djSupport-linux> essentailly grub 2 is a pain in the ass to recongfigure its options :(
[20:39] <emma> has anyone else seen this thing on a fresh install of kubuntu where it says it cannot mount swap because of some cryptfs thing?
[20:41] <emma> hm?
[20:42] <genii> emma: You have libpam-encfs installed?
[20:42] <genii> !info libpam-encfs
[20:43] <ubuntu> Ciao a tutti
[20:44] <genii> !it | ubuntu
[20:51] <luux> why this channel got only 200 nicks while ubuntu got 1200 already?
[20:53] <kaputtnik> Hello! I have trouble with Korganizer: The reminder didn't work as he should do. Allready postet a Bug at Launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/488251
[20:56] <genii> luux: Ubuntu is the main distribution. Ubuntu with KDE as the desktop (Kubuntu) is not used by as many people
[20:57] <maco> kaputtnik: might be better to report on bugs.kde.org
[20:57] <luux> are there any statistics of kubuntu/ubuntu usage?
[20:58] <luux> puzzingly kde channel has war MORE nicks and is more active than gnome
[20:58] <kaputtnik> maco: Seems to be a bug to Kubuntu. Some people with debian odr SUS didn't have this failure
[20:58] <LjL> luux: google trends, and this channel's very activity, shows a sharply decreasing trend for Kubuntu :(
[20:58] <maco> ah ok
[20:58] <genii> luux: Nothing definitive. Distrowatch is sometimes used as a gauge of popularity
[20:58] <luux> oh my!
[20:58] <maco> kaputtnik: ill take a look then
[20:58]  * genii slides LjL a coffee
[20:59] <LjL> genii: surely, you mean a koffee.
[20:59] <luux> lmao!
[20:59] <kaputtnik> maco: It would be nice, if anyone could reproduce this bug
[21:02] <maco> genii: popcon!
[21:02] <maco> kubuntu-desktop v. ubuntu-desktop
[21:03] <genii> maco: As interesting to me as the ongoing vi versus emacs struggle <yawn>
[21:03] <maco> genii: i meant for stats of kubuntu v. ubuntu usage
[21:04] <genii> maco: Aaaaah OK. I thought you typo'd popcorn
[21:04] <maco> oh hahaha
[21:04] <Mamarok> Riddell: is our glibc patched already? -> http://www.purinchu.net/wp/2009/11/16/malloc_check_-crashes/
[21:04] <Mamarok> would get us rid of quite some bug reports
[21:05] <emma> I just got kubuntu started here and i tried 'lock widget' to try to make it so that the 'desktop folder' would stop showing me that side tab every time I hovered over it. But now I am not sure how to get that side tab back again so i can move it and stuff.
[21:06] <momen> hello
[21:06] <maco> emma: click the orange swirly thing and go to "unlock widgets"
[21:06] <momen> some one help ?
[21:06] <maco> emma: or right click the desktop and unlock widgets
[21:06] <maco> momen: you havent asked a question
[21:06] <maco> well i mean, you asked one, but i just responded to it
[21:06] <momen> ok , im new with linux
[21:07] <momen> my sound not working
[21:07] <AssociateX> how do I recover a formatted partition?
[21:07] <AssociateX> ext2
[21:07] <emma> when i hover over the moon widget it shows me that side tab thing so i can close it or move it. but when i hover over the desktop folder widget the side tab thing does not show up.
[21:08] <momen> maco ,can u help
[21:08] <maco> AssociateX: ive heard helix linux is good for that. its a live cd with data recovery tools
[21:09] <maco> momen: if you run "alsamixer" in a terminal, is anything muted (says "MM" instead of a number at hte bottom of the stack)?
[21:09] <AssociateX> maco: thank you. I will what tools they have
[21:09] <AssociateX> see*
[21:11] <geni_> i have a small problem with sound in 9.10. i don't seem to have proper software mixing
[21:11] <emma> I fixed it by getting rid of it and then putting a new one back.
[21:11] <momen> thnx maco it worked
[21:12] <geni_> kopete stops amarok with it's notifications, however firefox with flash sound mixes well with amarok
[21:12] <maco> um ok. i didnt tell them how to unmute but whatever
[21:13] <ubox> can you use a cell as a fax line?
[21:13] <tsimpson> that has nothing to do with Kubuntu
[21:13] <ubox> why not? i use kubuntu and i want to fax via cellphone
[21:14] <tsimpson> because, we don't control what cell phones can and can not do
[21:14] <genii> ubox: If you can use your phone to dial out like an external modem, you can fax with it
[21:15] <tsimpson> if your phone has the capability, it can, if not, it can't
[21:15] <ubox> tsimpson: my cellphone is capable, well should be. i'll check in #android
[21:16] <tsimpson> ubox: when you connect it, look at the output of "dmesg"
[21:16] <maco> ubox: tmobile doesnt allow tethering through G1. doesnt make it not-possible. just..ya know..rooting it is required. which i dont think tmobile likes that either
[21:16] <tsimpson> it should say something about "stty" being crated
[21:16] <ubox> mine is rooted, when i opened the box i went at it lol
[21:18] <ubox> hmm, apparently nothing about stty
[21:21] <maco> kaputtnik: works fine here on 9.10
[21:23] <kaputtnik> maco: ?? Today i have completly reinstalled Kubuntu 9.10. Result is the same...
[21:23] <kaputtnik> also tried in a Live-Session: result the same...
[21:24] <kaputtnik> tried to delete all related Files in ~/
[21:24] <maco> i installed this on tuesday night. just set an event for 17:00 today, notify 50min in advance, 10 min apart, 10 times...got one at 16:10 and one at 16:20 as it should
[21:24] <geni_> so, any idea how to set up proper software mixin for audio?
[21:25] <kaputtnik> If it reminds, it reminds every minute...
[21:29] <kaputtnik> In addition: Birthdays are reminded only one time. Exactly 10 Days before (the setting have choosen). With hardy the remindings are every day..
[21:32] <kaputtnik> maco: Thanks for testing...
[21:33] <kaputtnik> maco: Any idea, how i could find a solution?
[21:34] <darkdelusions> is there a way to get my wireless to authenticate without me have to type in my kwallet password all the time?
[21:34] <maco> kaputtnik: maybe if you can make a new calendar and try it on there then attach the .ics to the bug?
[21:35] <kaputtnik> tried a lot new calendar ;-) yes, i attach a little calendar.
[21:38] <tomika> quit
[21:38] <ebovine> Anyone know how to move a kde panel that you can't see?  I normally run dual monitor (NVidia TwinView), and when I boot without the second monitor attached it decides to put the panel on the screen that is no longer there.
[21:39] <ebovine> The dumbest part about that it is that the panel is on the primary (laptop) monitor when both monitors are attached, so why it would decide it suddenly doesn't belong there is a mystery.
[21:40] <kaputtnik> maco: attached
[21:52] <doleyb> ebovine: I guess you can turn off twinview by running settings from alt-f2.
[21:55] <AssociateX> maco: helix does not appear to be free
[21:56] <AssociateX> maco:  but it sure looks nice
[21:56] <maco> AssociateX: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/helix.html says theres a version you can get if you give your email address
[21:56] <ebovine> doleyb: twinview is off.
[21:57] <AssociateX> maco: thanks person, you're the greatest
[22:01] <kaputtnik> maco: added a screenshot with the result of this event... remindings every minute
[22:20] <Roasted> Hey guys - got a problem - I cannot send anything to the trash can. I get an error "Could not write to file /path/of/trash/file.trashinfo" what can I do?
[22:22] <AssociateX> maco: right on, I'm getting it now, thank you so much.
[22:23] <AssociateX> Roasted: is there such a file?
[22:23] <AssociateX> then check it's permissions
[22:23] <Roasted> such a file? I'm simply trying to send a file to the trash. I don't know waht it's trying to write.
[22:24] <AssociateX> ls /path/of/trash/file.trashinfo
[22:24] <AssociateX> is that file there?
[22:24] <llutz> ls -l /path/of/trash/file.trashinfo
[22:24] <AssociateX> right!
[22:26] <Roasted> Nothing is in my trash, at all. Because I was having an issue with my trash can (A different issue) where it would complain about not being able to find a different file whenever I emptied it. I posted on forums and they said to run rm -rf /home/me/.local/share/Trash/* and I did to empty it out completely. Well, that problem is gone, but now I cant send anything TO the trash can....
[22:27] <shockrates> hi
[22:29] <shockrates> does anyone
[22:29] <shockrates> use archlinux?
[22:30] <maco> O_o
[22:33] <Roasted> AssociateX - I checked out Kubuntu on my work laptop, and inside Trash theres two folders with 700 rwx permissions, owned by you/you (user and group). Theyre labeled files and info. I went back to my Trash folder to create those, since I deleted them, but they were listed there already. Okay, fine. So I tried to delete a file, and presto - it worked. It must have just taken my system a second to re-generate the files/info folders th
[22:33] <Roasted> at reside in the trash folder.
[22:36] <AssociateX> Roasted: that's strange
[22:37] <AssociateX> have you tried to mkdir /home/me/.local/share/Trash
[22:37] <AssociateX> as your user
[22:38] <AssociateX> wait, is it missing or not?
[22:39] <AssociateX> or is it just the /path/of/trash/file.trashinfo that is missing?
[22:39] <AssociateX> Roasted: ...
[22:41] <Roasted> AssociateX - Sorry went to grab something to eat
[22:41] <shockrates> Does nayone use arch?
[22:41] <Roasted> AssociateX - Trash was not missing. Files/Info (folders) INSIDE of Trash was missing becasue I ran that command suggested to me on forums (rm -rf /home/local/share/Trash/*)
[22:42] <Roasted> It just took Kubuntu a minute to re-generate them. I came here immediately when I saw it. Later I noticed they were back and I could delete files just fine.
[22:43] <shockrates> WHO USES ARCH
[22:43] <shockrates> ARGGHHH
[22:43] <Roasted> hey bro, this is a Kubuntu chat ro om, not an Arch chat room.
[22:43] <AssociateX> shockrates: ha ha, probably no one here.
[22:50] <BRICK> heya everyone :)
[22:50] <BRICK> anyone can help me please ?
[22:50] <Roasted> whats up brick
[22:50] <BRICK> hey Roasted :)
[22:51] <BRICK> first i want to apologize for my English
[22:51] <BRICK> i'm french indeed
[22:51] <BRICK> :)
[22:51] <Roasted> haha, all good. :P
[22:51] <BRICK> so,
[22:51] <BRICK> i have a problem with amarok
[22:52] <BRICK> it doesn't read mp3 files any more
[22:52] <BRICK> and,
[22:52] <BRICK> i've tried to install xine again
[22:52] <BRICK> but nothing's changed
[22:52] <BRICK> purge it
[22:52] <BRICK> re intall it
[22:52] <BRICK> same result
[22:52] <FloodBotK1> BRICK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:53] <Roasted> ehh, Im not too sure. Ive hated amarok ever since the new version came out. Let me see real quick...
[22:54] <Roasted> I just found on another linux forum someone saying their amarok wont play mp3s, and somebody suggested to do this
[22:54] <Roasted> nstall the package libxine1-ffmpeg and also libmad0
[22:54] <loadus> BRICK, I had the same problem - actually all the players just stopped playing mp3 or wav files
[22:55] <robin0800> BRICK: restrickted extras installed?
[22:55] <loadus> (BRICK: I installed KMplayer and that fixed a bunch of things)
[22:55] <Roasted> yeah, alternative players are the way I go when it comes to amarok - I personally prefer eaxile
[22:55] <Roasted> exaile*
[22:55] <BRICK> robin0800: i'm trying so far, but it won't be installed i guess
[22:58] <BRICK> loadus: i'd prefer not to install too many applications for the same thing
[22:59] <Roasted> BRICK - if only you would see how many media players I have installed... oh gosh I have so many
[23:00] <robin0800> BRICK: try songbird dosen't need any files installed
[23:02] <BRICK> Roasted: lol
[23:04] <BRICK> robin0800: ok thanks, do you another media player that is able to totally be integrated to KDE ?
[23:07] <robin0800> BRICK: no not really you can install "system" feather in songbird to make it use system settings
[23:09] <Roasted> Who's a genius with understanding Qt and its licensing? I was just reading Qt is triple licensed, and the wiki referred to "and the free version of Qt is LGPL licensed...". Is there multiple versions of Qt??
[23:11] <BRICK> no, but first Qt was not free
[23:11] <BRICK> that's why GNOME came to birth furthermore
[23:12] <BRICK> and the same Qt has been LGPL licensed for developpers
[23:12] <BRICK> who develop free softwares for the linux community
[23:13] <BRICK> that's why there're many kind of Qt licenses
[23:14] <Roasted> but are the other Qt licenses valid? Or are they all null now that Qt is LGPL?
[23:20] <Roasted> any idea BRICK?
[23:22] <xarli> alguien me puede decir si en el kubuntu hay algun programa mas aparte del konkeror para abrir paginas?
[23:23] <kaputtnik> maco: Thanks for pay attention to my problem. I have to go to bed now.
[23:25] <BRICK> Roasted: The LGPL license remplace the previous license of 2008
[23:25] <Roasted> BRICK - are you sure? http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing
[23:26] <Roasted> they have all 3 licenses listed there.
[23:29] <BRICK> Roasted: yep i see
[23:30] <Roasted> BRICK - what does that mean?
[23:30] <Roasted> i dont see how you can license something 3 times. How is it, oh, we're GPL, and LGPL, and closed source. Have your choice.
[23:31] <TheFuzzball> anyone know of a KDE 4.4 daily repo?
[23:31] <BRICK> i think it weird because Nokia announce that since the outcome of Qt 4.5, the next version of Qt will be under LGPL license that's enable proprietary developpment whitout paying
[23:31] <Roasted> well didnt LGPL come into play in mid 2008 anyway?
[23:35] <Sanne> Hi all, I have an old kubuntu on sda hard disk I want to keep. Will I be able to install Kubuntu Karmic on a second hd (sdb) and also install the boot manager on that disk, preserving the old one on sda? I plan to use the alternate installer.
[23:35] <BRICK> well i thought it was in 2009
[23:36] <BRICK> 2008, Qt is still under GPLv3 license
[23:36] <BRICK> i thought
[23:36] <Roasted> well nokia bought QT in 2008 from what I read
[23:36] <Roasted> the license may not have changed till jan 09
[23:38] <BRICK> Qt has been under LGPL license since jan 09, hasn't it ?
[23:38] <Roasted> that's what I thought
[23:38] <Roasted> but what's up with it being triple licensed?
[23:39] <Roasted> that's what I don't understand
[23:39] <Roasted> if its LGPL, its LGPL. I dont see how you can have LGPL, GPL, and a 3rd one too
[23:40] <c3l> does $ dd bs=8M if=image.img of=/dev/sd[x] work for getting the normal x86 install on an usb stick?
[23:41] <high-rez> What time of image is the .img file?
[23:41] <high-rez> Is it an actual disk image with a partition table and all of that or is it an iso?  If it's an ISO then no.
[23:41] <c3l> isi
[23:41] <c3l> iso
[23:41] <c3l> oh
[23:42] <c3l> how do i do if its .iso?
[23:42] <c3l> or is there an .img version of kubuntu x86?
[23:42] <high-rez> There's instructions out there for how to create an installable  usb drive - but I actually just install it to the usb thumbdrive as if it were a hard disk :
[23:42] <high-rez> :)
[23:43] <high-rez> Not sure if youre intention is to create a usable *buntu distro from usb or an installation medium?
[23:43] <c3l> nono, just an instal meduim
[23:43] <c3l> to install on an eee, theres no cdrom
[23:43] <high-rez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[23:45] <BluesKaj> c3l, an image file can't work very well since it doesn't look at your hardware so it won't install the proper kernel modules
[23:48] <c3l> BluesKaj, oh? well okay ill just use some tool to get iso bootable on usb. but i cant find usb-creator in archlinux repo, which im currrently using. i guess ill have to ask i #archlinux
[23:50] <BRICK> Roasted: this difference lies in the modification of the Library
[23:50] <BluesKaj> c3l, think the url high-rez posted is the way to go
[23:50] <BRICK> you have to publish them according to the LGPL license
[23:50] <Roasted> BRICK - whats the bottom line? Will KDE always use Qt? Is Qt completely LGPL in regard to how KDE uses it?
[23:51] <Guest61553> hi there
[23:51] <Guest61553> what is all this about?
[23:54] <BRICK> Roasted: i guess so but a rapprochement between Qt and GTK is also possible
[23:54] <c3l> BluesKaj, i cant install usb-creator cus its not in the archlinux repo
[23:57] <BRICK> c3l: try unetbootin if you can't do otherwise
[23:57] <c3l> is it not as good as usb-creator?
[23:58] <BluesKaj> c3` all you need to do is DL the kubuntu is the iso file , you don't need the archlinux repos
[23:59] <c3l> eh? I need a tool to get the iso image bootable on an usb stick
[23:59] <c3l> .. BluesKaj,