[09:48]  * mac_v yay , just converted the whole panel monochrome ;p
[09:50] <mac_v> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-6.png
[09:52] <mac_v> kwwii_: for firefox i just realized , we dont need firefox to submit change the icon , we could just assign a monochrome icon in Ubuntu
[09:52] <mac_v> firefox to change*
[09:57] <kwwii_> mac_v: hrm? not sure I understand
[09:57] <kwwii_> ahhh, the app icons
[09:57] <kwwii_> well, that is going to be a problem
[09:58] <kwwii_> I do not think they will do it
[09:58] <mac_v> kwwii_: couldnt we just change it in Ubuntu? or color app icons in panel is fine?
[09:59] <kwwii_> I think that long-term, the plan is to not have app icons in the panel
[09:59] <mac_v> ah , ok
[09:59] <darkmatter> iirc it's against the mozilla 'identity' for distro's to change the icons. I'm pretty sure it's in the license
[10:00]  * mac_v hides ;p
[10:01] <mac_v> hehe , once i converted all the colors to grey , it looks like that part of screen is only B&W ;)
[10:02]  * darkmatter is breaking in his new DVD burner
[10:03] <darkmatter> I actually facepalmed after I installed it
[10:03] <darkmatter> had atapi errors, spent an hour troubleshooting, then realized I forgot to set the jumpers :P
[10:05] <zniavre_> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9781/capturewv.png     srtange behaviour of rgba
[10:07] <darkmatter> welll. more accurately strange behavior of webkit with rgba enabled. but close enough :P
[10:08] <zniavre_> :o)
[10:08] <kwwii_> no worries about rgba, we have a gtk patch we're working on ;)
[10:08] <zniavre_> truly ?
[10:08] <zniavre_> wow !!!
[10:08] <kwwii_> yepp
[10:08] <zniavre_> that s good new
[10:08] <kwwii_> I have it running on my laptop
[10:09] <kwwii_> but it is still early days
[10:09] <kwwii_> the first few weeks firefox wouldn't even start :p
[10:09] <zniavre_> :o)
[10:09] <kwwii_> this is nice because you can control it in the theme file on a per class basis
[10:09] <zniavre_> here it starts with rgba module from gnome-look but crash with flash
[10:10]  * zniavre_ is happy to learn this today
[10:10] <kwwii_> and with client side window decorations we will hvae truly round windows as well
[10:10] <kwwii_> no more distinction between window deco and contents
[10:11] <kwwii_> but anyway
[10:11] <mac_v> kwwii_: when is cody gonna land the changes in lucid?
[10:11] <kwwii> mac_v: sooner rather than later ;)
[10:11] <zniavre_> is there a way to try it too? (as beta tester )
[10:11] <mac_v> cool :)
[10:11] <zniavre_> :o)
[10:11] <kwwii> not yet because it isn't ready yet
[10:12] <kwwii> but there will be
[10:12] <zniavre_> roooo
[10:12] <kwwii> iirc sometime around the middle of december
[10:12]  * mac_v considers bribing cody for early preview ;p
[10:12] <kwwii> ie a couple of weeks
[10:12] <darkmatter> rgba is overrated in most cases. it's yet another example of 'not invented here'. it *would* be useful if it had a direction other than 'oooo... shiny!'
[10:12] <kwwii> yepp, what you do with it is the important part
[10:12] <darkmatter> but the client side deco is promising
[10:14] <kwwii> we are interested in rgba to be able to have the unfocused windows go slightly transparent...but only the win-deco, toolbar, etc. ie not the content area
[10:14] <mac_v> kwwii: you can already do that in metacity , the window decorations atleast ;)
[10:15] <kwwii> mac_v: it is not the same as what I mean though
[10:15] <darkmatter> kwwii: it would also be useful in certain child windows. like find/replace in gedit etc
[10:16] <mac_v> kwwii: but wouldnt it be weird , when the content is hovering in midair....   would be tricky to get the right transparency :)
[10:18] <darkmatter> brb. tst booting the dvd
[10:44] <zniavre_> kwwii,  is it possible to see a screenshot from your laptop (i would like to see the rounded windows, im not sure to understand what you meant)
[10:44] <zniavre_> ?
[10:48] <mac_v> zniavre_: kwwii works for MI6 , he probably wont show us his desktop ;p
[11:43] <zniavre_> mac_v, i was sure of this point too ...
[11:56] <kwwii> zniavre_: sorry, that stuff isn't even started yet
[11:56] <zniavre_> :o)
[18:14] <mac_v> kwwii: Bug #458250 , how does humanity have to fix this ? [i dont know what is wrong :(  ]
[18:24] <DanRabbit1> mac_v: just mark invalid for Humanity
[18:25] <mac_v> ;)
[20:13] <kwwii> mac_v: the icon is missing I think
[20:14] <kwwii> iirc
[20:14] <kwwii> or is it a missing .desktop file
[20:14] <kwwii> anyway, mark as appropriate...I just like to blame you first :p
[20:15] <kwwii> it is officialy weekend here so expect anything understandable from me for two days
[22:06] <zniavre_> sudo apt-get install poedit
[22:06] <zniavre_> ooops sorry
[23:04] <darkmatter> dropbox exploded xD
[23:05] <darkmatter> hiya coz_, I'm getting old
[23:09] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy :)   you are getting old?
[23:10] <darkmatter> coz_: lol... yeah. you shoulda seen me ripping my hair out yesterday. Installed a new burner, booted up, ATAPI error. tried inspecting/troubleshooting drives/connectors for an hour, only then did I notice I forgot to set the jumpers xD
[23:11] <coz_> darkmatter,   oh dude  I have been there   I truly understand lol
[23:12] <darkmatter> coz_: I mean, I only saw the jumpers 6 times after the initial error.. lol
[23:12] <darkmatter> you think I would have noticed they were both on master
[23:13] <coz_> :)
[23:16] <darkmatter> coz_: we really need smarter bios. I mean, two drives fighting for control shouldn't give a generic error, it should give something like 'ERROR: You can not have two Masters on the same IDE channel', that would at least help prevent premature aging :P
[23:16] <coz_> darkmatter,   which motherboard manufacturer is this?
[23:17] <darkmatter> coz_: gigabyte
[23:17] <darkmatter> its a slighty older model, but still
[23:18] <coz_> darkmatter,  maybe some of the newer bios' do that particularly asus ....maybe
[23:18] <darkmatter> *shrug*
[23:26]  * kwwii wanders off to bed
[23:30]  * darkmatter notices big whole in linux burning utilities
[23:31] <darkmatter> coz_: I just noticed that *none* of the gui burning apps in linux (that I've seen/used)  support formatting dvd-ram, lol