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mannyvhi fabrice_sp04:59
fabrice_spmannyv, Hi :-)05:00
mannyvim looking over bug 48841705:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 488417 in imagej "Sync imagej 1.43g-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48841705:01
fabrice_spmannyv, ok. I think the actual package also fails in lucid05:02
fabrice_spbut if we can fix it, better :-)05:02
fabrice_sp(or even better: report to Debian the fix ;-) )05:02
mannyvfabrice_sp, the problem is this line: JAVA_HOME=$(dirname $(dirname $(dirname $(readlink /etc/alternatives/java))))05:04
mannyvit does not produce the same result as it does in karmic05:04
fabrice_spmannyv, that's what I've seen, yes05:05
fabrice_spbut why?05:05
mannyvfabrice_sp, so if i replace that file with  JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj it runs but then it crashes with a null pointer exception05:17
mannyvif i install openjdk-6-jre it runs fine05:17
mannyvwith no changes05:18
fabrice_spso maybe, we should change the package dependency?05:18
mannyvthat happens to be what JAVA_HOME=$(dirname $(dirname $(dirname $(readlink /etc/alternatives/java)))) points to for me in karmic05:18
mannyvi could try that, but java packages confuse me05:20
fabrice_spand in lucid? here. the result is /05:20
mannyvand readlink /etc/alternatives/java points to /usr/bin/gij-4.405:21
fabrice_spexactly: that's why the hack does not work05:22
fabrice_sp3 times dirname gives you /05:22
fabrice_spit's a really ugly hack :-/05:22
mannyvyean in karmic at least for me it points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java05:23
mannyvbut imagine that could vary depending on which jre people decide to run05:23
fabrice_spyes: that's the point. Did you check how it's done in the unstable version?05:24
mannyvill check now05:24
fabrice_spthanks :-D05:25
mannyvit does it the same way: JAVA_HOME=$(dirname $(dirname $(dirname $(readlink /etc/alternatives/java))))05:28
fabrice_spso this is something that should be fixed, then05:30
mannyvyeah i just test built and installed 1.43k and it is broken there too05:33
mannyvalso i installed 1.43g in karmic and it runs fine05:35
fabrice_spyeah: default java interpreter has changed...05:35
mannyvbut when i change it so that JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj  instead of open-6-jre05:36
mannyvit also crashes with null pointer05:36
mannyvso i am thinking that changing it so it depends on openjdk-6 instead of java-gcj will fix our problems05:37
fabrice_spcould you try with /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj-4.4 ?05:38
mannyv/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj is a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj-4.405:39
fabrice_sp_sorry: got disconnected05:40
mannyvi said: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj is a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj-4.05:40
mannyverr: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj-4.405:41
fabrice_sp_yeah: that's the last thing I tried to type :-)05:41
fabrice_sp_mannyv, the Debian version depends on openjdk-6-jdk (the binary part)05:43
mannyvi got that message before you disconnected, dont worry i cant read your mind05:44
mannyvthis is what debian/control says for the binary: Depends: ${java:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, java-gcj-compat | java2-runtime05:44
fabrice_sp_oh: the source package05:44
mannyvbut it Build-Depends: openjdk-6-jdk, cdbs, debhelper (>=7), ant, gif2png05:45
fabrice_sp_a bit strange, no? Build depends on a specific java compiler and run with whatecer your system has :-/05:45
mannyvok so i am going the binary dependency, do you think i should do  1.43g or k?05:46
mannyvgoing t ochange*05:46
fabrice_sp_I would say report to Debian :-D05:47
fabrice_sp_with the null pointer exception, when running with java-gcj05:48
ScottKShould probably go upstream too, I'd think.05:50
micahgScottK: \sh said to poke you about zend-framework backports05:51
ScottKmicahg: OK.  Is there a backports bug that says it builds/installs/runs?05:51
micahgbug 48863305:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 488633 in karmic-backports "Please backport zend-framework from Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48863305:52
micahginstalls, let me check :)05:52
* ScottK looks05:52
ScottKmicahg: Once you've checked it builds/installs/runs on a release, mark that task confirmed and ping me again.05:55
micahgok, I only have karmic installed right now05:55
ScottKOften you can test these in chroots.  If you plan to do a lot of backportings, having multiple VMs laying around is handy.05:57
ScottKBTW, runs does not mean a complete functional evaluation, just that the packages starts and can do something useful.05:58
micahgScottK: it's a PHP library05:58
ScottKGenerally that's enough to know.05:58
mannyvfabrice_sp_, so i changed it to depend on openjdk-6-jre and also changed it to ur updates-java-alternative instead of the dirname hack and it runs fine. I will report to debian with the fix05:59
micahgScottK: it seems to run my local site fine05:59
ScottKmicahg: OK.  Mark it in the bug.05:59
fabrice_sp_mannyv, ok. Thanks!06:00
micahgthanks ScottK06:00
mannyvfabrice_sp_, thanks for taking the time to work through this with me06:01
ScottKmicahg: One more thing: Please edit the bug to include the exact version being requested/tested.06:01
fabrice_sp_mannyv, yw. If you want more work, I have some merges pending ;-)06:02
micahgScottK: in the subject?06:02
ScottKmicahg: Subject or body, doesn't matter much.  Subject is probably slightly better.06:02
micahgScottK: done06:02
* micahg is still learning :)06:03
ScottKmicahg: No problem.  Approved.06:04
ScottKNo it'll wait for an archive admin with appropriate access to process the backport and put it into karmic-backports06:05
mannyvfabrice_sp_, would you mark this grave,serious, or important?06:12
fabrice_sp_mannyv, important06:14
fabrice_sp_except if the default java is gcj06:14
mannyvfabrice_sp_, should I link the launchpad sync bug to the debian bugreport?06:23
fabrice_sp_hmmm, why not, yes06:23
mannyvfabrice_sp_, ok linked did you do that fakesyn with checkgmail ?06:41
fabrice_sp_mannyv, not yet: didn't had time :-)06:41
fabrice_sp_the only advantage of that fakesync is that it states clearly in the changelog that this package can be synced. Actually, both packages are identical, so no rush ;-)06:42
mannyvwas just checking up on the packages ive touched and remembered that one. So i will stop worrying about that one and leave it in your hands =)06:43
mannyvand with that i am off to bed, gnight06:44
wrapsterif a pkg requires mercurial-common( >=1.3.0)  how do i add it to the control file .. can i just say mercurial-common or should i specify the version as well?06:52
wrapsterand is specifiying the version just for understandability purposes or something else to it?06:52
jmarsdenwrapster: It matters; specify the version if a particular version (or later) is needed, so the package will only install if such a version is available.06:54
wrapsterso is this the way i specify it "mercurial-common (>= 1.3.0)"06:57
jmarsdenYes, that looks good to me.  lintian will complain if you mess it up :)06:58
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MTecknologyAmaranth: If you're still after bug 410407; i just changed the description to hopefully help new bug reporters catch that instead of reporting a dupe09:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 410407 in flashplugin-nonfree "[READ DESCRIPTION] Flash is not recognizing mouse clicks in multiple situations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41040709:00
micahg\sh: are low prioirity bugs every SRUd for LTSs?09:08
\shmicahg, I don't know...I'm trying to avoid SRUs ;)09:09
\shmicahg, btw...thx for the backport requests :)09:09
micahg\sh: np09:09
sorenmicahg: If someone wants to work on them, sure.09:10
micahgthanks soren09:10
timmihello, I have a question regarding dependencies:10:00
timmiMy control file contains:10:00
timmiDepends: python-qscintilla2, python-qt4, ${python:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}10:00
timmiRecommends: pylint, python-scipy, python-numpy, python-matplotlib10:00
timmiNow, a user installing from my PPA reports:10:00
timmiSetting up python2.5-minimal (2.5.4-1ubuntu6) ...10:01
timmiLinking and byte-compiling packages for runtime python2.5...10:01
timmi/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Onboard/KeyboardSVG.py:104: Warning:10:01
timmi'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.610:01
timmiCompiling /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Onboard/KeyboardSVG.py ...10:01
timmi  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Onboard/KeyboardSVG.py", line10:01
timmi    with open(pane_svg_filename) as svg_file:10:01
timmi            ^10:01
timmiSyntaxError: invalid syntax10:01
timmiwhy do there errors with Python 2.5 arrise?10:01
sorenBecause you're using python2.6 specific language features.10:02
soren...yet your package claims to work with 2.5.10:02
POXtimmi: from __future__ import with_statement10:03
timmithe upstream source says that it works with Python (>= 2.5).10:04
timmiso what should I use?10:04
POXbump it to 2.6 or patch the code10:05
timmiIs 2.6 default in Karcmic?10:05
timmiis there a way I can upload a screenshot for my application?10:11
DktrKranztimmi: yes, 2.6 is default in Karmic, for screenshots: screenshots.debian.net10:13
timmidoes screenshots.debian.net apply regardless where the application is hosted?10:14
timmiPPA, Ubuntu, Debian?10:14
DktrKranzit's relevant for Debian packages, which in turn are included in Ubuntu10:16
timmiand PPA packages?10:16
DktrKranzno, unless they're available in the archives already10:17
DktrKranzsay, with a lower or different version than the PPA one10:18
timmiIs there any naming convention?10:21
timmiif the upstream packages is called: scikits.timeseries, how shall I name the Ubuntu package?10:21
tsimpsonprobably scikits-timeseries10:21
DktrKranzdot are allowed in package names as well10:23
tsimpsonlooks horrible though imo10:24
timmiI noted that all python modules start with python-*10:24
timmiIS this the official way?10:25
tsimpsonfor python10:25
DktrKranzfor Python packaging is having python-$modulename, so module zope.whatever has packagename python-zope.whatever10:25
timmithanks. that helps.10:26
timmiHow do I create packages from a SVN or BZR repos, how do I create the source distribution?10:29
p3rroris there any one experienced with snort10:29
p3rrorall i need is to add a second sensor ?10:29
timmijust export the current status of the last revision and create a *.orig.tar.gz?10:30
timmiBTW, thanks a lot to this channel.10:43
timmiI could at least succed building all packages uploaded to the PPA10:43
fatal^hello, I see gupnp has been synced with debian in lucid.... any chance you could sync in the newly added package called rygel as well ? :)10:43
randomactionfatal^: it will be auto-synced from testing at some point10:48
fatal^randomaction: "at some point" means its triggered by a "randomaction" ? .... j/k.... thanks. :)10:53
randomactionby archive admins, I would say :)10:54
LucidFoxhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geany/+bug/282972 <-- thoughts on this?13:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 282972 in geany "'xterm' should be 'gnome-terminal' to be consistent in GNOME" [Undecided,Invalid]13:16
LucidFoxI don't think it was a good idea to unilaterally close the bug like this just because Geany isn't technically a GNOME application.13:17
cyberixHow do I suggest something for inclusion in main?13:21
slytherinLucidFox: Ideally it should have x-terminal-emulator and not a specific app.13:21
slytherin!mir | cyberix13:21
ubottucyberix: mir is Main Inclusion Report - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for more information.13:21
LucidFoxI think we need a more user-friendly application to manage alternatives. galternatives hasn't been updated for a long while, and its UI is hideous.13:30
LucidFoxkalternatives seems to have been recently uploaded, though, I'll look at that one.13:33
SevenMachinesqbittorrent fails to start with missing symbols on lucid but this is fixed with a simple rebuild, how do you go about that? does it need a version bump to request a rebuild?13:39
ScottKSevenMachines: It does.13:40
SevenMachinesok, thanks13:41
slytherinSevenMachines: Is there any urgency? It will eventually get version bump in lucid, won't it13:42
LucidFoxSpeaking of which13:43
SevenMachinesi was wondering that, its the version synced from debian testing but there its still early days13:43
SevenMachinesso theres no rush, best to just wait?13:44
LucidFoxWell, even after it enters testing, there will still be some days before it gets autosynced.13:44
SevenMachinessuppose might just do it anyway, allows people to test other bugs on it, and allows me to avoid doing the work i'm supposed to be doing which is not inspirational stuff on a friday :)13:48
MenZaFor a lack of a better place to ask - do deb packages support localised meta data?13:50
directhe`MenZa, you mean translations of the info like the package description?13:50
MenZaI see it as being a pretty big issue for non-English speakers to use stuff like the software centre if they have to do that in a different language13:51
MenZaI've always wondered13:51
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MenZaThat sounds pretty... shifty13:51
directhe`i'd talk to the debian-l10n guys13:52
directhe`er, debian-i18n13:52
directhe`same difference13:52
directhe`i agree with you, FWIW13:52
MenZaHang on, I found *something*13:52
directhe`but they're the guys to discuss specifics with13:52
MenZaBasically, .po files can be included within the package?13:53
Laneythere's a translation project in debian13:53
Laneyfor doing package descriptions13:53
joaopintoMenZa, software center does use description translations, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu13:53
directhe`Laney, i don't remember the implementation of consumers though13:53
Laneyno, no idea how it works13:53
Laneybut it must work somehow13:53
MenZajoaopinto: ah13:53
MenZajoaopinto: Excellent.13:54
MenZaThanks :)13:55
DerickHcan I download a minimal 10.04 cd somewhere?14:58
moustafaThe first alpha for Lucid is set for December 10th14:59
DerickHthen there is also an minimal cd?14:59
moustafaThere's the alternate installer, if that's what you mean15:00
DerickHI mean ubuntu minimal https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:01
moustafaAh, it should be available when the alpha appears15:02
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LucidFox"I'm busy with the university, at least until December 15. I'd like to improve the build system and, eventually, publish the program15:44
LucidFoxon a hosting service (such as Google Code, Launchpad...): these are time consuming tasks, and they would break your package. "15:44
LucidFoxWow. An upstream actually concerned about breaking packages? :)15:44
directhexlies! no such creature exists!15:47
siretart`sorry, for not having announced that earlier, but I need to take15:53
siretart`spooky (the Host on which REVU is running) down until sunday15:53
siretart`the reason is maintenance on the power supply at the campus here15:53
bddebiandtchen: I'm going to start playing with sdl 1.2.1415:56
siretart`ajmitch: around? - see ^^15:56
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fabrice_sp_Hi. Who should I ping to have motu access to  revu? RainCT ?17:25
av`fabrice_sp_, any REVU Admin listed on the REVU LP team17:26
fabrice_sp_ok. Will check. Thanks av` :-)17:27
RainCTfabrice_sp_: Yeah. REVU is currently offline until Sunday, but feel free to ping me again once it's up and I'll change your permissions.17:31
fabrice_sp_ohh, right. Forgot about that. Thanks :-)17:31
fabrice_sp_anyone know of a script that download the Debian source giving him the name of the source package ?17:41
RainCTfabrice_sp_: pull-debian-source17:42
fabrice_sp_cool! Thanks again RainCT :-)17:43
porthosefabrice_sp_, pull-lp-source comes in handy also ;)17:45
RainCTOr you can add Debian to your sources.list and then use  apt-get source <pkgname> -t unstable17:45
fabrice_sp_ok. I'm trying to automate the sync request sponsoring, by unsubscribing u-u-s, subscribing myself to the bug, downloading the source from Debian and building it17:46
fabrice_sp_as of now, I'm able to do the lp part, and do manually the download (already has a script for building )17:46
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randomactionI have a trivial script for this, which does mkdir; cd; pull-debian-source; pbuilder-dist18:02
fabrice_sp__pull-debian-source extract the dsc, that shouldn't be necessary in that case18:04
fabrice_sp__the fun part was to interact with lp ;-)18:05
geserI've also a small script to ACK sync-request (and do the subscribing/unsubscribing)18:05
fabrice_sp__so do I now :-)18:06
fabrice_sp__it's called ack-sync18:06
geserI called mine syncack :)18:06
fabrice_sp__I also have one called sponsor, that unsunscribe u-u-s, and subscribe myself, put as In progress, and put Whishlist18:07
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mannyvmy error of the day:  'sudo apt-get reboot18:10
fabrice_sp:-) Could have been worst ;-)18:12
mannyvi found it pretty amusing18:13
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wattazoumCan anyone tell me if there is a way using dh_override (debhelper > 7.0.50) to handle multi package build including arch indep packages ?19:05
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ajmitchsiretart: ok, thanks for the warning :)19:42
maxbwattazoum: AFAIK, the best way is to use if [ `dh_listpackages` ....... in the shell commands of the override target20:55
wattazoumwow, someone answering ! Thank you very much maxb. I will look at it20:57
PMantisWhere's the best place to ask about writing upstart jobs? can anyone here help?22:28
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strycorehi all23:47
dhillon-v10strycore, hi :)23:47
strycorecould somebody take a look at this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/convertall/+bug/47434123:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 474341 in convertall "No conversion occurs. It just says converting... but nothing happens!" [Undecided,In progress]23:48
strycoreI've send a patch to the maintainer but no fix has been released yet23:48
strycoreit's been more than two weeks now23:49
strycoresorry, i didn't attach a clean debdiff , it's just a regular diff23:50
strycoreoh, wgrant you're actually here :)23:52

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