=== Traveler is now known as Guest24702 [01:19] could having multiple a records on my domain cause my mailserver to timeout? [01:20] its hard to test if secure connections are working on the mailserver, as it sits there and connects forever [01:20] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1800 IN A 69.164.212.132 [01:20] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1800 IN A 68.146.139.247 [01:22] eventually, when thunderbird prompts me for a login password, it connects instantly [01:23] Nov 27 01:22:15 li127-132 dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, method=PLAIN, rip=68.146.139.247, lip=69.164.212.132llybigrigger>, method=PLAIN, rip=68.146.139.247, lip=69.164.212.132 [01:23] eek [01:23] that looks like poop [01:23] Nov 27 01:22:15 li127-132 dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, method=PLAIN, rip=68.146.139.247, lip=69.164.212.132 [01:23] what are your MX records? [01:23] i take it rip=68.146.139.247 means that attempted timed out [01:24] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. 925 IN CNAME thefrozencanuck.ca. [01:24] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1800 IN MX 10 mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. [01:24] smtp sending is timing out [01:25] right now im trying to test imap/smtp without authentication [01:25] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca is? [01:25] yeah [01:25] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca is X.Y.Z.U? [01:26] ? [01:27] epinky, i don't understand [01:28] ip of mail.thefrozencanuck.ca? [01:28] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN CNAME thefrozencanuck.ca. [01:28] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN A 69.164.212.132 [01:28] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN A 68.146.139.247 [01:28] it's confused it think :) [01:28] 69.164.212.132 is the server's ip [01:29] 68.146.139.247 is old [01:29] like 4 days old [01:29] Have you set up mail servers on 69.164.212.132 and 68.146.139.247 ? [01:29] doesn't seem like it wants to detach itself from my domain [01:29] yeah, 139.247 is my home ip...not running any services on it anymore [01:29] 212.132 is a vps i bought a few days ago [01:29] godaddy's domain manager just doesn't want to seem to let go of the old ip [01:30] then remove thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN A 68.146.139.247 [01:31] i deleted that a record days ago [01:31] when i added the new one [01:32] or add it like: [01:32] Total DNS: (Available) [01:32] ARecord @ 69.164.212.132 [01:32] CNAME mail @ [01:32] CNAME www @ [01:32] CNAME ftp @ [01:32] MX @ mail.thefrozencanuck.ca [01:32] that's all the records i have [01:32] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1800 IN MX 20 mail2.thefrozencanuck.ca. [01:33] i only have the one mail server [01:33] mail2.thefrozencanuck.ca won't point anywhere [01:33] unless you want me to point it to the server's new ip? [01:34] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN A 69.164.212.132 [01:34] mail2.thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN A 68.146.139.247 [01:36] thefrozencanuck.ca. 1538 IN CNAME mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. [01:44] wtf [01:44] as soon as i deleted the all my records, all A, CNAME, and MX records.... [01:45] 68.146.139.247 immediatley points back to my home ip [01:47] huh? "billybigrigger> yeah, 139.247 is my home ip...not running any services on it anymore" [01:49] no i mistyped [01:49] yeah thats right [01:49] wow im confusing myself haha [01:49] 69.164.212.132 is my server's ip [01:50] 68.146.139.247 is my home ip === chuck_ is now known as zul [02:15] Im having trouble getting mysql and mail services working any ideas [02:15] its a new install if that helps [02:16] X-M4-X: You'll need to be much more specific -- what packages did you install, how did you configure them, what do you mean by "having trouble" -- what exactly works, and what does not work? [02:17] rapache is working excelent i have never had apache 2.2 work this great..........mysql 5.1 community is the package i installed and i don't know where to begin for mail right now [02:18] X-M4-X: How did you install mysql 5.1? sudo apt-get install mysql-server right? [02:19] apt get-install mysql-5.1-community [02:20] now i have entered the command you have given [02:23] There does not seem to be an official Ubuntu package called mysql-5.1-community that I can see. mysql-server is the metapackage that installs the version of mysql server appropriate for the version of Ubuntu you are running, and the related packages it needs. So... did it work for you? [02:23] the command you gave did work [02:24] Good :) [02:24] jmarsden: I bet his -community package just Provides: mysql-server, so it's a noop :P [02:25] X-M4-X: For mail, you just need basic single domain SMTP and POP3/IMAP ? Have you set up a mailserver on Linux before? [02:26] i had one on windows vista however i am strait noob to linux. i was advised to switch [02:27] OK. Which version of Ubuntu Server are you running? [02:27] newest one i believe 9.10 [02:28] OK. Then sudo apt-get install dovecot-postfix should install both dovecot and postfix for you. [02:29] BTW, to find out for sure which version of Ubuntu you have, do lsb_release -d [02:32] i have like 3 Fails and 4 ok's [02:33] when it was trying to listen it said fail [02:33] pastebin what you really saw and tell the channel the URL, so we can see the exact text, please [02:33] !pastebin [02:33] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [02:34] kk [02:40] The places fail are noticed are highlighted http://devteamsn.pastebin.com/f523369b8 [02:44] X-M4-X: "Fatal: listen(0.0.0.0, 143) failed: Address already in use" [02:44] X-M4-X: that means dovecot can't start because something else is already using port 143. [02:44] X-M4-X: Um... did you previously try to install some sort of IMAP daemn... [02:44] *daemon [02:44] X-M4-X: use ss -l or netstat to find out what. [02:45] Maybe i was entering codes for security purposes almost 10 seconds after it installed so ill find out [02:47] X-M4-X: if you don't know whether or not you already tried to install an IMAP daemon, you should probably learn to keep much better notes of what you do as you admin your server :) [02:47] *:imap2 [02:47] maybe i do lol [02:48] Please speak English... what did you install that does IMAP, before you installed dovecot-postfix ? [02:49] I have no idea maybe sendmail [02:49] No, that's an MTA. Seriously, keep better records! If you really don't know, what does sudo netstat -ntlp4 |grep :143 output? [02:51] mailagent [02:51] ssmtp [02:51] hey just a suggestion: now that some computers have kms, and hence full res terminal terminals maybe putting a background image would be good [02:52] X-M4-X: That is the output of sudo netstat -ntlp4 |grep :143 ... I don't think so. [02:52] obviously ubuntu logo related. [02:52] just so people know its powered by ubuntu [02:52] oh no its not those are two things i saw in the terminal that had anything to do with mail [02:53] So... what does sudo netstat -ntlp4 |grep :143 output? [02:53] workin on it now [02:54] X-M4-X: Try to follow instructions and not guess at stuff... twb and I both suggested you use netstat... [02:54] Actually I prefer ss now ;-) [02:57] hmm tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:143 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1519/portsentry [02:57] X-M4-X: OK, so why are you running portsentry on a port you want to use for IMAP ? [02:58] Stepping back, why are you running portsentry at all? [02:59] I used yolinux.com for a linux server security tutorial and i just followed it had no idea that it was going to conflict with my incomming/outgoing mail servers [02:59] If you don't need it, sudo apt-get purge portsentry seems called for. sounds like a rather old tutorial... don't follow tutorials you do not fully understand. [03:00] portsentry rocks! [03:00] It is i just now see "apache 1.3" [03:01] X-M4-X: OK, so sudo apt-get purge portsentry and then restart dovecot and you should be much closer to a working mail server. [03:01] how would i restart? forgive me i am new to this [03:02] epinky: portsentry was cool in 1999, but we are now in 2009... what real benefit does portsentry bring today on an appropriately configured Ubuntu server? [03:02] X-M4-X: sudo service dovecot restart [03:02] ah thank you [03:03] it didnt fail [03:04] jmarsden: I know sendmail is also very old XD [03:04] X-M4-X: Good. Now you can read the Ubuntu Server Guide, and maybe follow that with some general linux documentation such as http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html so you can get a bit more up to speed. [03:05] alright now i can configure php & mysql and than purchase cpanel & whm [03:06] Ewww. If you really must :) Stick with supported open source solutions on your server if you can. [03:06] the postfix/dovecot sections in the server guide don't really give a working mailserver either [03:06] :) [03:06] else i wouldn't have been asking a million questions in here the last couple of days [03:07] billybigrigger: Or maybe you didn't quite follow them exactly? I'll test them in a VM, I suspect they will work just fine for me :) [03:07] well if you know of a good client access panel and web host manager thats open source let me know lol [03:07] followed that guide a few times, yet it hasn't resulted in a working server yet [03:07] maybe i've done so much mucking around with configs i'm way off base now [03:08] who knows [03:08] billybigrigger: long time no see. Do you know howtoforge - good general tuts for standart server config [03:08] If you find specific errors, please report bugs against the sever guide so we can get them fixed. [03:08] tomsdale, howdy [03:08] X-M4-X: I'm not about to deal with all the details, but which ones have you tried, and how do you define "good" in this context? [03:09] yeah i used to follow howtoforge alot, wanted to give the server guide a go [03:10] good would be cpanel to me however there was one i had on my windows vista xampp weak server and lots of people loved, i think it was called zpanel only issue is it needed zend optimizer to be installed to the server [03:10] X-M4-X: Well, if you define "good" as one commercial product, then of course you can't find a "good" open source panel :) [03:11] lol so true [03:12] A customer needs to demonstrate that RAID5 is too slow for his "write lots of little files" workload. [03:12] Is there a better benchmarking tool for this than bonnie++? [03:12] twb: Dtrace? [03:12] phoronix? [03:12] twb: Well, that customer's workload is the best benchmarking tool for that workload :) [03:13] i probably just sacrificed speed of my server lol [03:13] installed gui and web browser [03:15] Ugh. Now you have a not-quite-server hybrid machine. Ask any gui-related questions in #ubuntu not in here :) [03:16] lol ill purge it later [03:17] Im going to take a chance here and say for dns server it would be apt-get install dns-server? [03:17] X-M4-X: Stop guessing and read the Server Guide :) [03:18] Oh yeah i forgot i had that open [03:21] do you not need 2 machines for dns? [03:21] a primary and secondary? [03:21] i dont think so [03:22] billybigrigger: For authoritative servers, yes (there are free secondaries around if you need one). For a DNS server for your local use, you only need one machine. [03:23] Thanks for that bit of information...now i know if i ever need an authoritative server [03:34] billybigrigger: you dont need 2 machines for dns [03:34] billybigrigger: but it helps if you want some redundancy when serving dns to the outside world [03:36] i do need thet [03:37] its pretty easy [03:37] X-M4-X: Did you do that when you ran your services using Vista? If so, you should probably do the same on Linux. [03:38] no i just used one server with simple DNS plus and it worked perfectly [03:38] Then you don't "need" two servers for Linux -- one server will get you at least the same level of redundancy you had before. [03:41] lol [03:42] someone just tried to dos me [04:02] jmarsden, ok im following this guide for the last time [04:02] :) [04:03] sudo postconf -e 'smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/server.key' [04:03] sudo postconf -e 'smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/server.crt' [04:03] sudo postconf -e 'smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem' [04:03] I'm following it and documenting my progress and seeing how much of it I can script :) [04:03] billybigrigger: wrong window :) [04:03] do i need to supply a CAfile if i did a self signed cert? [04:03] or just tls key and cert [04:03] billybigrigger: Just follow every step of the guide and don't worry about it. [04:04] im getting an error [04:04] At what point? [04:04] cannot load Certificate Authority data: disabling TLS support [04:04] i can pastebin the rest [04:04] it's postfix complaining about the CA cert [04:04] but i didn't create a CA cert, just self-signed [04:05] so i was wondering can i remove the smptd_tls_CAfile from main.cf [04:05] or will i disable TLS that way [04:05] ? [04:05] So... you didn't actually follow the guide... and now you are complaining about an error... hmmm. [04:05] no [04:05] the guide gives you an option to create self signed cert, or use a CA [04:05] i've tried the CA every time, and thought i'd go with a self signed this time around [04:06] You misread it, it give syou a list of commands to type and the refers to to a separte doc for "more details" on self signed keys. Itr does not say "so skip all the above and read this"! [04:07] Whether you are getting a certificate from a CA or generating your own self-signed certificate, the first step is to generate a key. [04:07] i generated the key, and the self-signed it [04:07] what else do i need to do? [04:07] self-sign it, and run it through CA? [04:07] I thought we were debugging the guide. To do that we need to start at the top of the guide and work through it, not deviating from what it says. [04:07] That is what I am doing. [04:08] ok, i generated my key, all is fine there... [04:08] I just got to the sudo /etc/init.d/postfix restart after the end of the cert part and it worked fine... OK. [04:08] which cert part? self signed? [04:09] The whole part. I did not read the "more details. You are using the 9.10 Server Guide, right? [04:09] yeah [04:09] did you create a CA or self sign the cert? [04:09] So tell me where it offers you two options, CA or self signed, on that page? [04:10] You can now submit this CSR file to a CA for processing. The CA will use this CSR file and issue the certificate. On the other hand, you can create self-signed certificate using this CSR. [04:10] I created a CA, because that is what the guide says to do. [04:10] there's the option [04:10] right above Creating a Self-Signed Certificate [04:11] jmarsden, ........ [04:12] so what am i supposed to do? create a CA then? [04:12] is that the *proper* way? even if the guide gives the option? [04:12] If it works, then move on :) Either way should work fine. [04:13] well back to my original question.... [04:13] billybigrigger> do i need to supply a CAfile if i did a self signed cert? [04:13] because postfix is now complaining it can't find the CAfile, since i entered this into postconf, from the guide [04:13] billybigrigger> sudo postconf -e 'smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem' [04:14] which obviously doesn't exist [04:16] I'd try without it then. [04:16] the guide also gives the option to use cryus or dovecot sasl with smtp-auth [04:16] which one do YOU use? [04:16] dovecot [04:16] i' [04:16] hmmp [04:16] i tried cryus this time [04:16] actually I think the whole guide could be simplified to use the new dovecot-postfix package as a starting point... but that's a discussion for after we test the guide as it now is :) [04:17] ok, according to the guide...once i see this from ehlo mail.thefrozencanuck.ca my testing is done and i SHOULD have a working smtp server... [04:17] 250-STARTTLS [04:17] 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [04:17] 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN [04:17] 250 8BITMIME [04:17] right? [04:17] Probably, I can't make progress through it right now because you are asking too many questions too quickly :) [04:17] i see that perfectly...yet i still cant sendmail through thunderbird [04:17] hehe sorry for the q's [04:18] this guide needs a good thorough read-through [04:18] or a re-write [04:18] Can you send mail using (for example) date |mail -s "My test" user@someplace.else.com [04:18] from the server itself. [04:18] And that read through is what I was trying to give it... [04:18] no, because -bash: mail: command not found [04:19] :) [04:19] you mean while i'm netcat'd into port 25? [04:20] well, easier to sudo apt-get install heirloom-mailx # but you can test that way too [04:21] not good with smtp commands :) [04:21] Then do what I suggested and sudo apt-get install heirloom-mailx [04:21] is it in universe? [04:22] It's "just there" for me, when I run apt-get install, so I'd say yes it must be in universe or main :) [04:22] 9.10's apt sources come with universe disabled..so [04:22] got it now [04:23] jmarsden, ok that worked [04:23] sent a test to my hotmail account [04:23] From: billybigrigger@mail.thefrozencanuck.ca [04:24] where is the from header read? [04:24] ie i want @thefrozencanuck.ca [04:24] is that myhostname = mail.thefrozencanuck.ca [04:24] Talk about impatience! You have not yet got your mail server working... why are you trying to customize it already? [04:24] .... [04:24] :-O [04:25] haha sorry, i am impatient today [04:25] So how did you set up Thunderbird to authenticate when sending mail out via your mailserver? [04:25] just had my last cup of coffee just over an hour ago, and have been smashing my head on my desk for a few days over postfix/dovecot [04:25] Other than denting the desk, results of that operation are not reliable. [04:26] server: mail.thefrozencanuck.ca port: 25 username: billybigrigger secure authentication: yes connection security: starttls [04:26] tbird's settings [04:26] OK, and what error do you get from Thunderbird when you try to send mail using that connection? [04:26] it times out [04:27] billybigrigger: postfix is evil. :( [04:27] high five on that one [04:27] OK. So.. from the machine running Thunderbird, can you telnet to port 25 of your server? [04:27] * MenZa slides billybigrigger a mug of hot coffee. [04:27] Stay strong. [04:27] billybigrigger: You can set up sendmail if you prefer it and think it would be easier :) :) [04:27] jmarsden, no, because my ISP blocks 25 [04:27] which is why i need to setup submission on 587 [04:27] So then of course Tbird times out! [04:28] That is an invalid test of your server. [04:28] should i keep the same settings in tbird and just change the port to 587 then? [04:29] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:587 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4396/master [04:29] Once you have the port 587 on the server opened, yes. Eo you have an MX record for your server already in place? So if I email billybigrigger@thefrozencanuck.ca is shoukd reach your server's port 25? [04:29] $ dig mx mail.thefrozencanuck.ca === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:29] mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. 1800 IN CNAME thefrozencanuck.ca. [04:29] thefrozencanuck.ca. 150 IN MX 10 mail.thefrozencanuck.ca. [04:30] jmarsden, no because i haven't gotten imap/imaps configured, smtp is outbound, which you know already [04:31] So... you didn't go through the guide all the way, and you are complaining about things not working and are trying to reconfigure stuff?? Hmmm. [04:32] BTW I can't get to port 25 on 77.232.68.42 from here, and I can get to lots of other SMTP servers OK... [04:32] So are you sure it is your ISP doing the port 25 blocking, not something at the server end? [04:32] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:587 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4396/master [04:32] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2072/sshd [04:32] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4396/master [04:33] only services i have setup so far are ^^^ [04:33] ssh and postfix [04:33] i am too tired i think im just going to use this server to make my own site hold up [04:33] billybigrigger: And no firewall or packet filtering anywhere in play at all, hardware or software? [04:33] no [04:33] * billybigrigger checks iptables [04:34] no rules set [04:34] And the server IP is 77.232.68.42 ? [04:34] no, where did you get that ip from? [04:34] dig mail.frozencanuck.ca +short [04:35] PING thefrozencanuck.ca (69.164.212.132) 56(84) bytes of data. [04:35] Ah, I left out the "the" :| [04:35] :P [04:37] jmarsden, ok, another thing with this guide, the dovecot.conf doc's state if you want to use smtp-auth, which im assuming i do, enter protocols = none in the dovecot.conf [04:37] OK, your server is accepting mail on port 25 just fine. I just sent you a test using it. See if it is in /var/mail/billybigrigger [04:38] yeah i got it [04:38] accepting on 25, i thought imap/imaps pop3/pop3s accept mail on 143/993 etc.. [04:38] ??? [04:39] i thought smtp 25 was for outbound mail [04:39] They do. I was sending to you, so I sent *to* your SMTP server. My mail was outbound to your port 25. [04:39] Sounds like you are confused. [04:39] very [04:40] SMTP is all about moving email around the Internet from mail server to mail server. That is what it does, transport mail. SMTP == Simple Mail transport Protocol. [04:41] imap just moves it from maildir through smtp then? [04:41] err dovecot [04:41] POP3 and IMAP are for email clients who prefer not to use a shell account on your server and read email with the mail command (!), to have a way to get the mail to their local (non-server, perhaps non-Ubuntu) PC or laptop or whatever [04:41] fair enough [04:41] haha [04:42] so technically, i could run my mailserver just fine the way it is [04:42] i love this [04:42] if i wanted to send/recieve all my mail through a shell [04:42] billybigrigger: Sure :) [04:42] but who wants that? :P not i [04:42] If you only need that, you do not need dovecot at all. [04:42] no, what i'm really going for here is a roundcube/atmail setup for webmail [04:42] Im going to purge the gui's [04:43] X-M4-X: Yay :) [04:43] stupid thing is, i never had this much problems setting up mail at home on my vm server [04:43] maybe i just need to have a smoke break...i'll brb [04:43] OK. [04:43] lol i need a coffee break but i gotta wait a few hours [04:45] I feel like the gui just slows the server wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down [04:46] That might be a sign it lacks RAM? [04:46] But, don't add the GUI back anyway :) [04:46] Im adding more ram too :) [04:47] yeah................. now i remember why i added the gui [04:48] No, learn to use Linux from the shell prompt, it will server you better in the long term anyway. [04:49] I need to go AFK to eat with family... back in a while... [04:50] kk [05:08] jmarsden, still alive? [05:11] god this is HELL [05:12] is there a command to show all services? [05:12] * MenZa quickly refills billybigrigger's coffee mug. [05:12] hehe [05:12] X-M4-X: All active services, or all possible installed services?? [05:12] MenZa, thanks, but im on pepsi now :P [05:12] * jmarsden is back [05:12] all active [05:12] Eurgh, horrible substitute, billybigrigger! [05:13] yeah i don't drink much of it [05:13] dr. pepper FTW! [05:13] X-M4-X: sudo netstat -nl [05:13] dang thats alot [05:14] X-M4-X: Many of those are only listening on localhost, or on unix sockets, etc. [05:16] Ugh i shouldve left the GUI until i downloaded a panel to the document root folder [05:16] well im not re adding it now [05:16] X-M4-X: Why? Download the file using wget and untar it with tar ... what's the problem? [05:17] Thats what it was [05:17] im writing that command down [05:18] im trying to get into the document root and i forget what was it /var/www ? [05:18] Unless you changed it, yes [05:19] ok now i will download the cpanel and prey something doesnt mess up on me...if i did everything in mysql right it shouldnt [05:20] * genii hunts down his prey, the elusive coffee [05:25] lol i cant seem to rename that one file [05:25] X-M4-X: what exactly are you typing and what is the result? [05:26] rename -n index.html?404=Y index.html syntax error (eval 1) line 1 near index. [05:27] X-M4-X: quote the filename, ? is a special char. mv 'index.html?404=Y' index.html # should work [05:27] What is with rename -n, mv is shorter to type :) [05:28] ok thanks i now know that the site i was downloading from is now parked [05:29] X-M4-X: I don't think there is an "unpack remote website" command, so I can't help with that :) [05:29] lol === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [05:51] ugh anyone know what to do to unpack tar -e isnt working right [05:51] or at all [05:52] WHat is the file you are untarring named ? [05:52] webcp-0.5.7.tar.gz [05:52] tar zxf webcp-0.5.7.tar.gz [05:53] Where did you get the idea of -e from, by the way? [05:53] Did you try man tar [05:54] I don't think tar *has* a -e option... :) [05:55] i think he was thinking of unrar -e [05:55] Ah, maybe. [05:55] yeah..um its wanting to download every php file [05:56] http://socomgods.ath.cx/webcp/web [05:56] Is the apache php module enabled? I've helped someone with that issue before, but I forget the fix! [05:57] wait its not downloading php files its oi_gCQZv.part [05:57] what the hell thats not even listed as a file on the server [05:57] It may be just the index file you are having an issue with?? [05:57] index.php or whatever it is called? [05:58] X-M4-X, make sure php5 is located in /mods-enabled/ [05:58] and you might need to add the include for it [05:58] php that is [05:59] X-M4-X, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ [05:59] LOL you are a step ahead of me [05:59] i thought you were having a problem with index.php wanting to download, and not open [06:00] it is its downloading and not executing on the server [06:00] anyway.../etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ should all be symlinks of /etc/apache2/mods-available, same goes with sites-enabled and sites-available [06:00] X-M4-X: If you do echo -e "" >phpinfo.php in /var/www/ can you then browse to it and see the output OK? [06:01] (In other words, let's test to see if it is all .php files that are the issue, or just the index.php file) [06:01] might need to add an addhandler line for php in php.ini too [06:01] dude..........i dont even know how to open files [06:01] i remember having to do that just the other day with .phtml files [06:02] billybigrigger: Slow down, one thing at a time :) [06:02] i'm just stating what i had to do the other day when i had the problem of firefox wanting to download index.php as a .phtml file [06:03] billybigrigger: Yes, but it is too much for a newcomer to handle all at once :) [06:03] X-M4-X: If you do echo -e "" >phpinfo.php in /var/www/ can you then browse to it and see the output OK? [06:03]