[00:01] <pace_t_zulu> :/
[00:02] <pace_t_zulu> what about #ubuntu-devel
[00:02] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[00:03] <BUGabundo> or #u-kernel
[00:25] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, found a solution
[00:25] <pace_t_zulu> sudo apt-get install pommed
[00:25] <pace_t_zulu> and the mactel-support ppa is good too
[00:26] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, thanks for your help :)
[00:26] <BUGabundo> YAY
[00:26] <BUGabundo> please report that on the bugs you find related
[00:26] <BUGabundo> so other users can at least have a workaround
[00:35] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, yea i reported it :)
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo, have you tested the compiz settings for lucid?
[00:52] <BUGabundo> using it right now
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> i like the settings
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> you?
[00:52]  * BUGabundo checks to see if anything changed
[00:53] <BUGabundo> looks the same
[01:09]  * BUGabundo $ mv /home/BUGabundo /media/bed ; operation time out
[02:04]  * jtniehof marks a 22-month old bug "invalid"...that one won't be troubling us anymore
[07:31] <dogatemylaptop> Greetings.  I am new to this but I believe Bug #489477 should be set to Wishlist.
[07:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 489477 in sqlite3 "Please merge sqlite3 3.6.20-1 from Debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/489477
[07:31] <dogatemylaptop> (If not then please correct me so I don't make this mistake in the future.)
[07:34] <dogatemylaptop> I suspect my request was a mistake.  I didn't read far enough down in the Wiki.  Sorry.
[07:57] <againstallsnacks> hello room
[12:06] <bullgard4> Where can I find the definition of "Won't fix"? As used for example in https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/434878
[12:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 434878 in telepathy-farsight "video calls fail frequently" [Medium,In progress]
[12:09] <thekorn> bullgard4, http://blog.launchpad.net/general/of-bugs-and-statuses
[12:10] <thekorn> but please keep in mind, this is the 'official' definition given by the launchpad devs, but please keep in mind, projects or distributions might define some status slightly different
[12:13] <bullgard4> thekorn: Thank you very much for your help.
[12:21] <thekorn> bullgard4: sehr gerne
[14:17] <joumetal> Could someone add upstream tracker to bug 347304? I can't.
[14:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 347304 in linux "can't install on Amilo Xa2528" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347304
[16:16] <bcurtiswx_> mac_v: are you present?
[16:16] <mac_v> bcurtiswx: oh , no....  what have i done? ;)
[16:17]  * mac_v hides 
[16:17] <bcurtiswx_> mac_v: lol, nothing bad.  I'm wondering what the bug report is wishlisting in bug #488073
[16:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 488073 in empathy "Empathy needs "white noise" for VoIP pauses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488073
[16:18] <bcurtiswx_> im confused
[16:18] <mac_v> yeah.. i didnt understand that one either... i was hoping some else understood it ;)
[16:18] <bcurtiswx_> lol, well at least i know I'm not alone... i wonder why it's papercut then
[16:19] <mac_v> bcurtiswx: there where a lot of bugs reported in papercuts but with no package... so right now i'm on a rampage to just assign package... hence was worried if i did something wrong ;p
[16:20] <bcurtiswx_> but this vitaly person who created the bug in papercuts.. i don't see the connection between then and the papercuts team
[16:20] <bcurtiswx_> them*
[16:20] <bcurtiswx_> not a member of the papercuts team
[16:20] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: hmm? i didnt understand... what connection?
[16:21] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: yeah , he is not a member
[16:21] <bcurtiswx_> mac_v, why is this reported against hundred paper cuts by vitaly.. when i don't see vitaly as a team member of hundred paper cuts
[16:21] <bcurtiswx_> vitaly has a pretty blank launchpad page
[16:21] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: anyone can report bugs in papercuts , they dont have to be members
[16:22] <mac_v> there are so many new users who just report them in papercuts
[16:22] <bcurtiswx_> mac_v, hmm.. ok.. i thought that was only something that gets assigned when a team member thinks its worth of a papercut
[16:22] <bcurtiswx_> worthy*
[16:23] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: works that way too , but we assign/assigned very few such bugs
[16:23] <mac_v> most of them are just reported by others
[16:23] <bcurtiswx_> ok, thanks for helping my confusion then :D
[16:24] <bcurtiswx_> i'll get the attention of that bug reporter and have them explain the bug better
[16:24] <mac_v> great :)
[16:51] <cdavis> I want to join the BugSquad. Is requesting a mentor how you join or do you join and then seek mentorship?
[17:01] <FFEMTcJ> Can someone wishlist bug 454171 please
[17:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 454171 in ubuntu "tweak UI to ajust to current screen resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454171
[17:03] <FFEMTcJ> also bug 458376 should be wishlisted
[17:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 458376 in ubuntu "No obvious way to switch between keyboard layouts or make a new layout active." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/458376
[17:05] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone around? I have a question
[17:06] <FFEMTcJ> Looks like there are tons of bugs that are being assigned to papercuts.. is there  a specific protocol to follow with those?
[17:10] <Elbrus> cdavis: you don't need a mentor.
[17:10] <Elbrus> see webpage in topic
[17:11] <Elbrus> sorry, web page mentions asking for a mentor..
[17:14] <FFEMTcJ> bug 477324 wishlist please
[17:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 477324 in ubuntu "Fix sort order in Group Settings. " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477324
[17:16] <cdavis> Elbrus: yes, the webpage makes it seem like there are three things you need to do to join, having a mentor being the third thing?
[17:16] <Elbrus> I hadn't heard of that before
[17:17] <Elbrus> just make sure that you ask about things that you are not sure about
[17:17] <cdavis> OK
[17:26] <yofel> FFEMTcJ: about bug 477324, the bug description is at least missing the release that's being used. (I guess it's ubuntu karmic). Also the package for that bug would be gnome-system-tools and should be upstreamed to gnome IMO.
[17:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 477324 in ubuntu "Fix sort order in Group Settings. " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477324
[17:31] <FFEMTcJ> yofel: so would it be invalid for papercuts?
[17:32] <yofel> FFEMTcJ: that's something I don't know, sry
[17:33] <yofel> IMHO it would be nice if there was a 'Sort by ...' box there
[17:33] <yofel> right now the entries are sorted by GID which isn't exactly wrong
[17:33] <FFEMTcJ> Gotcha.. I assume (which I know is never good) that it was just designed to be the same as the /etc/group file
[17:37] <yofel> well, the entries in /etc/group are sorted by GID too, so it's the same in the end
[18:20] <FFEMTcJ> ;
[18:20] <FFEMTcJ> ['[-=00000099iio[]
[19:25] <FFEMTcJ> yofel: ping
[19:37] <yofel> FFEMTcJ: pong
[19:45] <CarlFK> wondering what package to bug - guessing kernel:
[19:45] <CarlFK> bug is: gribouille in #ubuntu says "removed grub/grub..  when I update my kernel, dpkg complains because it can't find update-grub"
[19:45] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-image  does not depend on update-grub
[19:46] <CarlFK> guessing a script in linux-image should check exist update-grub ?  (that is beyond bug and into fix, but seems like a reasonable thing to include)
[19:54] <yofel> CarlFK: it has grub / grub-pc as a recommends. That's ok IMO
[19:55] <yofel> CarlFK: does dpkg give a warning or fail?
[19:56] <CarlFK> yofel: "gribouille: I removed grub because it didn't work for me, and now, when I update my kernel, dpkg complains because it can't find update-grub"
[19:57] <yofel> CarlFK: well, and what does he use now? lilo?
[19:57] <yofel> if lilo is installed and it still wants to run update-grub then that would be a bug /me thinks
[19:57] <CarlFK> good q - I am poking for info, but he is kinda cranky :)
[19:58] <CarlFK> (01:19:00 PM) gribouille: CarlFK, why do you ask such newbie questions ?
[19:59] <yofel> ...
[20:12] <dgr> Hi. Looking for some bug reporting advice. Been troubleshooting an issue with the heartbeat package, which I've now resolved. I note that Debian has a bug filed for this but nothing under Ubuntu. Should I file a bug report for Ubuntu?
[20:16] <CarlFK> dgr: "If the bug has been reported in another bug tracker, you can           link to it in order to keep track of its status. Launchpad           synchronizes the status automatically for you.  "
[20:16] <dgr> Ah, great :)
[20:16] <CarlFK> dgr: so report it, and put the deb bug in "The URL of this bug in the remote bug tracker."
[20:17] <dgr> Thanks!
[20:52] <geekles> I think Bug #395108 should be set to wishlist
[20:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 395108 in nautilus "Allow alphabetical sorting of bookmarks in Nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395108
[20:55] <geekles> I think Bug #489700 should be set to wishlist
[20:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 489700 in software-center "Please add the ranking for packages to Ubuntu Software Center as it was in "add / remove" application, now removed from Ubuntu. I find it a very useful feature." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/489700
[20:59] <bcurtiswx_> geekles: done
[21:14] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: is "incomplete" the right status for bugs we ask to be sent upstream?
[21:26] <bcurtiswx_> mac_v, yes.  I believe so
[21:28] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: hmm , maybe it got changed... mostly, others usually just mark it confirmed  , and once it is submitted upstream they set it to triaged...
[21:28] <mac_v> bcurtiswx_: you need to mention it to others as well
[21:29] <bcurtiswx_> The reason I've always marked as incomplete is because we've requested something in the bug report and It's incomplete until they do it
[21:50] <mac_v> ah ok
[22:04] <Emme_NK> Hi! What's the "polite" way to abandon a bug I have reported myself?
[22:04] <nigel_nb> Emme_NK: set to invalid
[22:04] <Emme_NK> Even if it might still be there?
[22:05] <nigel_nb> bug number?
[22:05] <Emme_NK> Bug #275780
[22:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 275780 in xbattbar-acpi "xbattbar blocks compiz screen corner events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275780
[22:05] <Emme_NK> I just don't use the package anymore
[22:05] <nigel_nb> but bug isnt necessarily solved?
[22:06] <nigel_nb> oh, its very old
[22:06] <Emme_NK> it might still happen. I sadly don't have a spare computer around to try to reproduce it
[22:06] <nigel_nb> u can try producing with virtualbox, but if u wanna close it, just set to invalid
[22:07] <Emme_NK> Hmm, I don't think compiz would work in VBox, so I'll just close it now. Thanks for the help!
[22:08] <nigel_nb> no problem :)
[22:11] <cdavis> I am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/489721 and have a question. I can confirm this happens and see a bug with the Evolution team last year that added a Forward icon, however I have no idea how to figure out what icon is really expected there. Do I email the person who made the patch last year that created the Forward icon?
[22:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 489721 in evolution "Strange Mail-Forwarded-Icon in Evolution" [Undecided,New]
[22:15] <cdavis> Do I just mark it as confirmed?
[22:21] <din_> Hi there I hope this wil be saved for review in the logs.
[22:22] <din_> The grub packages announced by update manager causes a corrupt boot process after installing. It ends on the Grub bash like comand line shell
[22:23] <din_> so now I hope this will be readen and someone how has super cow powers removes this updates from the manager
[22:29] <Emme_NK> How can I reset this "This bug affects me too" thingy to "Does this bug affect you?"?
[22:30] <maco> click it again
[22:30] <cdavis> Bug 489644 seems to me to invalid and needs to be somewhere else, is this correct? and if so how do I do so
[22:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 489644 in gnome-shell "cannot execute gnome shell" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/489644
[22:30] <Emme_NK> Then I just can choose Yes or No, but I cannot reach the "Unknown" state it has when I never clicked it
[22:31] <Emme_NK> It's about Bug #293885. I no longer have the computer, so I cannot know it if would still affect me.
[22:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 293885 in usplash "ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid fails to boot on iMac G5 rev C (iSight)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293885
[23:48] <dhillon-v10> hi all, I want to join Ubuntu bug control so can anyone provide me with a list or something of bugs that I can work on :) a lot of bugs over at Launchpad seem complicated
[23:48] <lifeless> dhillon-v10: many bugs are complicated.
[23:49] <dhillon-v10> lifeless, so where do I start from
[23:49] <dhillon-v10> lifeless, I have confirmed some bugs and read a lot on wiki
[23:50] <lifeless> dhillon-v10: great.
[23:51] <dhillon-v10> lifeless, now I want to know the next step
[23:53] <lifeless> dhillon-v10: there isn't a structured step. Just keep finding things you can do and do the,
[23:53] <lifeless> *them*.
[23:53] <dhillon-v10> lifeless, alright thanks for the info :)
[23:55] <dhillon-v10> lifeless, hey can you help me out here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/screenlets/+bug/489775 what project should this bug get assigned to
[23:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 489775 in screenlets "Calendar app for karmic Koala has November with 31 days" [Undecided,New]