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fta | asac, i've committed (yesterday) something that should help you building chromium on arm out of the box | 15:15 |
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fta | asac, i backed off the gyp/make patch for now, it's not ready | 15:15 |
asac | fta: is that already in todays daily i can grab? | 16:08 |
asac | let me check where it failed exactly ... didnt feel like it was in v8 | 16:09 |
* asac boots the other system | 16:09 | |
asac | bbi 30 minutes | 16:09 |
fta | on arm, it should fail in v8 snapshot, and in nacl (native client) | 16:13 |
fta | so i disabled those for you | 16:13 |
asac | ur right | 16:23 |
asac | great | 16:23 |
asac | now need to grab latest daily? | 16:23 |
asac | ok spinning daily from 3 minutes ago :) | 16:28 |
asac | great | 16:28 |
asac | so make isnt ready? ... too many bugs or just for one day work too much? | 16:29 |
fta | i'd say it's close, but needs at least two fixes. i Cced you yesterday | 16:41 |
asac | btw, are you on lucid already? | 16:43 |
asac | wonder if i should go and upgrade at least the main desktop | 16:43 |
asac | thing | 16:43 |
fta | no, still karmic | 16:44 |
asac | ok guess i can do some housecleaning and go for dinner etc. while this thing builds | 16:46 |
fta | lol | 16:50 |
asac | but maybe it just works :) | 17:05 |
asac | lets hoppe= | 17:05 |
asac | building v8/custom stuff atm | 17:05 |
asac | ok gone for a bit | 17:05 |
asac | ... still spinning | 18:31 |
asac | guess that means its promissing :) | 18:32 |
asac | somewhere in the middle of webkit HTML stuff ... probably takes 12+ hy | 18:32 |
fta | didn't you say that we'll have a xen/arm builder soon? | 18:34 |
fta | asac, ^^, what will it be? arm on i686 h/w? or just arm on arm h/w? | 18:35 |
mac_v | asac: hi... is chromium only available in the ppa? | 18:35 |
mac_v | and not in the ubuntu repos? | 18:35 |
pace_t_zulu | nice job getting chromium going on arm | 18:36 |
pace_t_zulu | mac_v, yes | 18:36 |
mac_v | ah.. ok.. but why is it so? | 18:37 |
pace_t_zulu | mac_v, talk to asac or fta about that | 18:37 |
fta | there's no upstream release for linux for one, and there's 33.000 source files / 600MB to review for licenses | 18:40 |
fta | but technically, it's good enough imho | 18:40 |
pace_t_zulu | fta, i'm running it as my default browser | 18:40 |
fta | great | 18:41 |
mac_v | ah.. right no upstream release.. ok | 18:41 |
asac | lucid will be chromium :) | 18:41 |
mac_v | ;p | 18:41 |
pace_t_zulu | asac, what? | 18:41 |
mac_v | asac: will it atleast be in the universe? ;p | 18:42 |
asac | ... for mobile at least :) | 18:42 |
asac | mac_v: yes... we are getting it in the archive (probably by bribing archive admins or something like that) | 18:42 |
mac_v | lol ;) | 18:42 |
fta | asac, i think i should add thumb too for arm | 18:42 |
mac_v | heh , i tried it long back , but i missed mouse gestures.. so came back to ff :) | 18:43 |
asac | fta: its default for toolchains that support it | 18:43 |
asac | so no need to add it | 18:43 |
asac | basically we do everything in toolchain | 18:43 |
asac | easier than adding stuff that is release specific | 18:43 |
fta | thought you said it will be, but it's not there yet | 18:43 |
asac | its in lucid | 18:43 |
fta | oh | 18:43 |
asac | only thing that isnt in is the implicit-it legacy flag | 18:43 |
asac | that will come soon | 18:43 |
fta | ok | 18:44 |
asac | but we need xulrunner build now, so i added it | 18:44 |
asac | hopefull thum also makes firefox snappier on arm | 18:44 |
asac | so in worst case we can keep using firefox in mobile UNE | 18:44 |
asac | arm UNE to be specific | 18:44 |
asac | ok uploaded xul with that flag ... lets hope thats enough | 18:45 |
asac | hmm gwibber seems to be dying all the time | 18:47 |
asac | when did that start again ?>( | 18:47 |
asac | did someone push an update to -proposed or for webkit or something? | 18:47 |
fta | no idea, it's stable here | 18:47 |
fta | so, arm ppa anytime soon? | 18:49 |
asac | only for native ppas for now still | 18:50 |
asac | we are working on improving tools so folks without arm hardware can build/run/test arm stuff | 18:50 |
asac | maybe by alpha-2 they are mature enough | 18:50 |
asac | the ppa support is basically blocked on lack of xen support for arm afaik | 18:51 |
fta | http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenARM ? | 18:51 |
asac | yes. i think there is work going on that is promissing | 18:52 |
fta | but i'm not sure it's arm on arm or arm on i686 | 18:52 |
fta | it says Xen on ARM VMM | 18:52 |
asac | i would think its arm in xen vm on i386 | 18:53 |
mac_v | fta: is there another ppa , other than this? > https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa , something more stable ;) or is this fairly stable? | 18:53 |
asac | which is probably what we want anyway for virtual builders | 18:53 |
asac | unless we want to do a 100 builder farm :) | 18:53 |
asac | anyway ... first hardware must become available for normal users | 18:53 |
asac | once that is achieved i dont think it will take long to make this more ubiquous in all ways | 18:53 |
asac | CachedScript.cpp :2~) | 18:55 |
asac | not sure if that is at least 30% :) | 18:55 |
asac | CrossOriginAccessControl.cpp now :) | 18:55 |
asac | fta: i think we need to put full copyright info for all the licenses listed in copyright in the file | 18:56 |
asac | or reference them from common | 18:57 |
asac | just fyi | 18:57 |
fta | yes, but even before that, i wanted all the chromium files clarified. for 3rd party, i just wanted to steal from our system packages | 18:58 |
asac | good idea | 18:58 |
asac | wonder if its a good idea to do parallel building for arm :) | 18:59 |
asac | well ... as long as its a remote porter machine its probably ok | 19:00 |
asac | poing is that this machine only has 512k mem :) | 19:00 |
asac | so swapping to death | 19:00 |
asac | hmm ... otoh its not that big atm | 19:01 |
asac | 99m | 19:01 |
asac | for each xcc1plus | 19:01 |
fta | funny how google experiments stuff on users in releases: http://codereview.chromium.org/434110 | 19:02 |
asac | hehe ... good that we dont have any releases yet o nlinux:) | 19:02 |
asac | 0.5% of users will participate :) | 19:02 |
asac | guess that means: without being asked | 19:03 |
fta | i was planning to do some | 19:03 |
asac | to do some? | 19:04 |
asac | experiments? | 19:04 |
asac | how do you get feedback? | 19:04 |
fta | no, releases | 19:05 |
fta | based on their 3 channels, somehow | 19:05 |
asac | hmm | 19:06 |
asac | thought they do not publish all the info to replay those channels yet | 19:06 |
asac | has that changed?= | 19:06 |
fta | they don't, so i'm trying to auto-guess | 19:06 |
mac_v | asac: shall i schedule Bug #386900 , for Lucid? | 19:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 386900 in network-manager ""Auto eth0" in notifications is confusing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386900 | 19:10 |
asac | mac_v: good question :) ... patches welcome i guess. i think dan is not entirely negative on this nowadays - so there is a chance :) | 19:13 |
mac_v | ;) | 19:13 |
asac | so nspluginwrapper process seems to be now called /proc/self/exe with .32 rc8 kernel:/ | 19:15 |
asac | for a moment i was shocked to see "exe" in top | 19:15 |
asac | oh i think thats because chromium does odd stuff | 19:17 |
asac | fta: armin76 said chromium will fail after 5h :) ... some file being built with sse2 unconditionally or something | 19:26 |
asac | also just fyi :) | 19:26 |
fta | i have a patch for that | 19:30 |
fta | if it's the same place, it should work | 19:31 |
armin76 | fta: link? | 19:33 |
fta | it's in bzr | 19:34 |
armin76 | link? :) | 19:34 |
fta | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head/annotate/head:/debian/patches/drop_sse2.patch | 19:35 |
fta | it's trivial | 19:35 |
fta | i've been using it since early May | 19:36 |
armin76 | fta: i don't have the build logs, but i remember it was not a build-time issue | 19:37 |
armin76 | err | 19:37 |
armin76 | it was a buildtime issue, thats what i mean | 19:37 |
armin76 | it tried to compile a file with sse2 on its name | 19:37 |
fta | hm, so it may be different then | 19:37 |
fta | then fix it, i don't have access to arm h/w | 19:38 |
asac | i will check that out now :) | 19:38 |
asac | but lets see ... maybe its really fixed and i win the bet we had in #ubuntu-arm :) | 19:39 |
armin76 | doubtful | 19:39 |
asac | unfortunately armin76 also said that my 512m are going to be good enough :( | 19:39 |
armin76 | if you don't hit that you're going to hit a segfault :) | 19:39 |
asac | i dont think having -j2 as its now makes that better :( | 19:39 |
asac | armin76: on what? | 19:40 |
armin76 | can't remember that one | 19:40 |
armin76 | i tried a lot of things, and that was last week | 19:40 |
armin76 | i don't remember anymore :) | 19:40 |
asac | fta: i guess ffox source for >3.5 are good enough to do a full build (with mozclient) ... e.g. we do not strip stuff as we did in 3.0? | 19:52 |
asac | at least from size i would think its identical to full moz central (- binonly) | 19:52 |
fta | yes | 19:53 |
asac | xul still building on lucid armel at least now :) | 19:54 |
asac | but xpcom .... so it can still fail on assembler i would guess | 19:54 |
fta | asac, it's not easy, i can just identify new branches, and releases in those branches. but i don't have enough information to assign those releases to a channel | 21:07 |
fta | asac, for ex, in november: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330578/ | 21:13 |
asac | right and they have the right dependency revisions documented for those? | 21:15 |
fta | so that gives me 7 branches, resp with their tips at 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17, 4.0.229.2, 4.0.237.2, 4.0.245.2, 4.0.249.19, 4.0.250.2 | 21:16 |
asac | c still building :) | 21:16 |
asac | i guess alsmost 4h? hmm | 21:16 |
asac | not sure | 21:16 |
asac | whats their latest "official" windows release? | 21:17 |
asac | stable | 21:17 |
asac | i jmean | 21:17 |
asac | mean | 21:17 |
fta | http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/ | 21:17 |
fta | hm, that's just the dev channel of chrome and chrome frame | 21:18 |
asac | what did you expect? | 21:18 |
fta | 3 branches, stable, beta and dev | 21:18 |
asac | heh ok. | 21:18 |
fta | it's probably 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17 and 4.0.249.19 | 21:19 |
fta | but i can't tell for sure | 21:19 |
* asac spins all-in-one-ffox :) | 21:22 | |
fta | like chronologically, they made 4.0.250.1 then 4.0.249.3, then 4.0.250.2, then 4.0.249.{4..19} | 21:22 |
asac | big chunk approach :) | 21:22 |
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fta | i wonder if there's a seed file somewhere i can use | 21:44 |
asac | fta: do you know whats the status of chromium gtk theming is? | 21:47 |
asac | fta: from what i understood on the mail threads that existed they did not publish the seed files for releases in the past | 21:47 |
fta | i'm not sure they want to do it | 21:47 |
asac | but either already started to do that or will be at some point | 21:48 |
asac | fta: hmm ... didnt they have an effort at some point? | 21:48 |
asac | to use system theme? | 21:48 |
asac | use gtk theme ;) | 21:49 |
asac | found it | 21:49 |
asac | isnt really that bad | 21:49 |
asac | thought a bit tunable ;) | 21:49 |
asac | mac_v: did you checkout chromium theming? | 21:49 |
asac | i am sure there is potential for beautification ;) | 21:49 |
asac | c is building "webkit/extensions/..../v8 | 21:51 |
mac_v | asac: when did they add theming to chromium? | 21:51 |
asac | mac_v: its there for a while ... you can click on "Use GTK+ Theme" | 21:51 |
asac | in tools -> something... | 21:52 |
mac_v | oh... cool.. | 21:52 |
asac | tools -> options -> personal stuff | 21:52 |
* mac_v checks | 21:52 | |
asac | crazy name ;) | 21:52 |
asac | for a tab | 21:52 |
fta | maybe in the apt source file installed with chrome.. | 21:52 |
asac | ;) | 21:52 |
asac | "Personal Stuff" ;) | 21:52 |
asac | everything is stuff | 21:52 |
asac | Tools Stuff, Option Stuff ;) | 21:52 |
fta | anyone has chrome installed? | 21:52 |
asac | no | 21:53 |
mac_v | asac: ah... there it is... will have to tweak chromium out ;) | 22:07 |
mac_v | just when i thought i was done with theming and stuff for a while... they pull be back it ;p | 22:11 |
mac_v | in* | 22:11 |
mac_v | *pull me back in! | 22:11 |
mac_v | oh great... i think i got to hit the sack | 22:12 |
asac | mac_v: thx!! enjoy | 22:13 |
asac | c still building | 22:13 |
asac | svn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/chrome/browser/automation/automation_provider.cc:2221: | 22:13 |
fta | preview: 4.0.223.16 (Windows Beta Channel), 4.0.249.12 (Mac Dev channel), 4.0.249.11 (Windows & Linux Dev channel) (2009-11-23; 5 days ago) | 22:22 |
fta | Stable release 3.0.195.33 (2009-11-12; 16 days ago) | 22:22 |
fta | hmm, wikipedia seems to know more than i do ;) | 22:23 |
fta | so 195 is stable, 233 beta and 249 dev, pff | 22:25 |
fta | s/243/223/ | 22:26 |
fta | <fta> it's probably 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17 and 4.0.249.19 | 22:26 |
fta | bingo | 22:27 |
mac_v | fta: hmm , the default chromium home page is still "9.04" :) | 22:27 |
fta | ? | 22:27 |
fta | where? | 22:27 |
asac | for me its google ;) | 22:28 |
asac | not sure if i set that somewhere | 22:28 |
mac_v | fta: fresh install directs to > http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/ | 22:28 |
asac | and new tab is ... newtab | 22:28 |
mac_v | options shows that ^ | 22:28 |
asac | maybe system integration of some kind? | 22:28 |
fta | chromium has the ubuntu start page??? how come? | 22:28 |
fta | it didn't do anything for that to happen | 22:29 |
mac_v | oh , or did that gather info from firefox o.0 | 22:29 |
fta | -it+i | 22:29 |
fta | oh, yes, b-m imports | 22:29 |
mac_v | ah.. nvm crazy me then .... lalala | 22:29 |
fta | if i do a chromium/stable ppa with 3.0.195.*, i wonder if users will use it.. it's old | 22:36 |
asac | i would start with the chromium/testing for now ;) | 22:39 |
asac | i would think that 3. was not really great for linux | 22:39 |
fta | stable & beta are just for windows | 22:43 |
fta | beta recently moved to 4.0.223.16 from 3.0.195.27 | 22:44 |
asac | well. but you are talking about trying to do the same for ubuntu ;) | 22:50 |
asac | so i say: go for testing/beta atm ... once 4.x gets to stable also start doing it for stable | 22:50 |
asac | if its not possible because they dont publish the seeds for those branches then we need to do someting about it ;) | 22:51 |
fta | asac, http://identi.ca/notice/15708021 | 22:53 |
asac | replied ;) | 22:58 |
asac | http://identi.ca/conversation/15708021#notice-15711128 | 22:58 |
asac | E: firefox-3.5: menu-icon-not-in-xpm-format /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png | 23:00 |
asac | E: firefox-3.5: embedded-zlib ./usr/lib/firefox-3.5.6pre/libxul.so | 23:00 |
asac | hehe | 23:00 |
asac | seems lintian doesnt like us including zlib | 23:00 |
asac | c still building ;) | 23:13 |
asac | svn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/chrome/browser/fav_icon_helper.cc | 23:13 |
fta | asac, <50% | 23:21 |
fta | and just of the build part, excluding the tests and the rest of the packaging | 23:22 |
asac | yeah | 23:23 |
asac | is there a flag i can set to not run the tests ;)? | 23:23 |
fta | yes | 23:28 |
fta | WANT_TESTS=0 | 23:28 |
asac | ok willl check that | 23:28 |
asac | next time .. :-P | 23:28 |
fta | you're building on your phone or what? | 23:29 |
* micahg likes the green for the dailies :) | 23:29 | |
av` | fta, where can I grab a stable chrome release for sid / squeeze? | 23:30 |
av` | fta, e.g not a daily, but something a bit more stable | 23:30 |
asac | no stable release available | 23:30 |
asac | only dailies | 23:30 |
asac | because upstream does not do any stable releases for chrome/linux yet. read backlog (last few hours) | 23:31 |
asac | that was discussed extensively there ;) | 23:31 |
asac | av`: ^^ | 23:31 |
av` | ah damnit | 23:31 |
asac | but you can install the daily packages in debian sid afaik | 23:31 |
av` | so I need to hope that the dailies I gonna grab will be stable enough | 23:31 |
asac | dailies are good usually | 23:31 |
asac | haven't seen many complain about it here ;) | 23:32 |
av` | I saw fta talking about a chrome-unstable release | 23:32 |
av` | some days ago, but don't know where to grab it :) | 23:32 |
av` | gonna search a bit | 23:32 |
asac | av`: dailies _are_ chromium-unstable basically | 23:39 |
asac | the official chrome is available on net somewhere -> search ;) | 23:40 |
asac | thats named chrome-unstable | 23:40 |
asac | but is basically our dailies (fta?) | 23:40 |
fta | yep, google-chrome-unstable is provided by google (no source) but it's not more stable that our dailies. both are from trunk | 23:43 |
fta | -that+than | 23:43 |
fta | the daily is more popular | 23:44 |
fta | chromium-browser 22602 1.68% 4911 10997 6690 4 | 23:44 |
fta | google-chrome-unstable 18666 1.39% 4535 8225 5887 19 | 23:44 |
asac | yep | 23:44 |
av` | ok, perfect, gonna have a look at the dailies then | 23:44 |
asac | http://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily | 23:44 |
asac | ;) | 23:44 |
asac | ok firefox all-in-one seems to work | 23:44 |
av` | thanks :) | 23:44 |
asac | some minor cleanups and that should be good | 23:44 |
fta | so it means more build cycles?? | 23:45 |
asac | if we keep xulrunner, yes. | 23:45 |
fta | i don't mind, but obviously, some do | 23:46 |
asac | !builderstatus | 23:47 |
fta | !builderstatus | 23:51 |
fta | lol | 23:51 |
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