/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/28/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

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ftaasac, i've committed (yesterday) something that should help you building chromium on arm out of the box15:15
ftaasac, i backed off the gyp/make patch for now, it's not ready15:15
asacfta: is that already in todays daily i can grab?16:08
asaclet me check where it failed exactly ... didnt feel like it was in v816:09
* asac boots the other system16:09
asacbbi 30 minutes16:09
ftaon arm, it should fail in v8 snapshot, and in nacl (native client)16:13
ftaso i disabled those for you16:13
asacur right16:23
asacgreat16:23
asacnow need to grab latest daily?16:23
asacok spinning daily from 3 minutes ago :)16:28
asacgreat16:28
asacso make isnt ready? ... too many bugs or just for one day work too much?16:29
ftai'd say it's close, but needs at least two fixes. i Cced you yesterday16:41
asacbtw, are you on lucid already?16:43
asacwonder if i should go and upgrade at least the main desktop16:43
asacthing16:43
ftano, still karmic16:44
asacok guess i can do some housecleaning and go for dinner etc. while this thing builds16:46
ftalol16:50
asacbut maybe it just works :)17:05
asaclets hoppe=17:05
asacbuilding v8/custom stuff atm17:05
asacok gone for a bit17:05
asac... still spinning18:31
asacguess that means its promissing :)18:32
asacsomewhere in the middle of webkit HTML stuff ... probably takes 12+ hy18:32
ftadidn't you say that we'll have a xen/arm builder soon?18:34
ftaasac, ^^, what will it be? arm on i686 h/w? or just arm on arm h/w?18:35
mac_vasac: hi... is chromium only available in the ppa?18:35
mac_vand not in the ubuntu repos?18:35
pace_t_zulunice job getting chromium going on arm18:36
pace_t_zulumac_v, yes18:36
mac_vah.. ok.. but why is it so?18:37
pace_t_zulumac_v, talk to asac or fta about that18:37
ftathere's no upstream release for linux for one, and there's 33.000 source files / 600MB to review for licenses18:40
ftabut technically, it's good enough imho18:40
pace_t_zulufta, i'm running it as my default browser18:40
ftagreat18:41
mac_vah.. right no upstream release.. ok18:41
asaclucid will be chromium :)18:41
mac_v;p18:41
pace_t_zuluasac, what?18:41
mac_vasac: will it atleast be in the universe? ;p18:42
asac... for mobile at least :)18:42
asacmac_v: yes... we are getting it in the archive (probably by bribing archive admins or something like that)18:42
mac_vlol ;)18:42
ftaasac, i think i should add thumb too for arm18:42
mac_vheh , i tried it long back , but i missed mouse gestures.. so came back to ff :)18:43
asacfta: its default for toolchains that support it18:43
asacso no need to add it18:43
asacbasically we do everything in toolchain18:43
asaceasier than adding stuff that is release specific18:43
ftathought you said it will be, but it's not there yet18:43
asacits in lucid18:43
ftaoh18:43
asaconly thing that isnt in is the implicit-it legacy flag18:43
asacthat will come soon18:43
ftaok18:44
asacbut we need xulrunner build now, so i added it18:44
asachopefull thum also makes firefox snappier on arm18:44
asacso in worst case we can keep using firefox in mobile UNE18:44
asacarm UNE to be specific18:44
asacok uploaded xul with that flag ... lets hope thats enough18:45
asachmm gwibber seems to be dying all the time18:47
asacwhen did that start again ?>(18:47
asacdid someone push an update to -proposed or for webkit or something?18:47
ftano idea, it's stable here18:47
ftaso, arm ppa anytime soon?18:49
asaconly for native ppas for now still18:50
asacwe are working on improving tools so folks without arm hardware can build/run/test arm stuff18:50
asacmaybe by alpha-2 they are mature enough18:50
asacthe ppa support is basically blocked on lack of xen support for arm afaik18:51
ftahttp://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenARM ?18:51
asacyes. i think there is work going on that is promissing18:52
ftabut i'm not sure it's arm on arm or arm on i68618:52
ftait says Xen on ARM VMM18:52
asaci would think its arm in xen vm on i38618:53
mac_vfta: is there another ppa  , other than this? > https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa   , something more stable ;)  or is this fairly stable?18:53
asacwhich is probably what we want anyway for virtual builders18:53
asacunless we want to do a 100 builder farm :)18:53
asacanyway ... first hardware must become available for normal users18:53
asaconce that is achieved i dont think it will take long to make this more ubiquous in all ways18:53
asacCachedScript.cpp :2~)18:55
asacnot sure if that is at least 30% :)18:55
asacCrossOriginAccessControl.cpp now :)18:55
asacfta: i think we need to put full copyright info for all the licenses listed in copyright in the file18:56
asacor reference them from common18:57
asacjust fyi18:57
ftayes, but even before that, i wanted all the chromium files clarified. for 3rd party, i just wanted to steal from our system packages18:58
asacgood idea18:58
asacwonder if its a good idea to do parallel building for arm :)18:59
asacwell ... as long as its a remote porter machine its probably ok19:00
asacpoing is that this machine only has 512k mem :)19:00
asacso swapping to death19:00
asachmm ... otoh its not that big atm19:01
asac99m19:01
asacfor each xcc1plus19:01
ftafunny how google experiments stuff on users in releases: http://codereview.chromium.org/43411019:02
asachehe ... good that we dont have any releases yet o nlinux:)19:02
asac0.5% of users will participate :)19:02
asacguess that means: without being asked19:03
ftai was planning to do some19:03
asacto do some?19:04
asacexperiments?19:04
asachow do you get feedback?19:04
ftano, releases19:05
ftabased on their 3 channels, somehow19:05
asachmm19:06
asacthought they do not publish all the info to replay those channels yet19:06
asachas that changed?=19:06
ftathey don't, so i'm trying to auto-guess19:06
mac_vasac: shall i schedule Bug #386900 , for Lucid?19:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 386900 in network-manager ""Auto eth0" in notifications is confusing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38690019:10
asacmac_v: good question :) ... patches welcome i guess. i think dan is not entirely negative on this nowadays - so there is a chance :)19:13
mac_v;)19:13
asacso nspluginwrapper process seems to be now called /proc/self/exe with .32 rc8 kernel:/19:15
asacfor a moment i was shocked to see "exe" in top19:15
asacoh i think thats because chromium does odd stuff19:17
asacfta: armin76 said chromium will fail after 5h :) ... some file being built with sse2 unconditionally or something19:26
asacalso just fyi :)19:26
ftai have a patch for that19:30
ftaif it's the same place, it should work19:31
armin76fta: link?19:33
ftait's in bzr19:34
armin76link? :)19:34
ftahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head/annotate/head:/debian/patches/drop_sse2.patch19:35
ftait's trivial19:35
ftai've been using it since early May19:36
armin76fta: i don't have the build logs, but i remember it was not a build-time issue19:37
armin76err19:37
armin76it was a buildtime issue, thats what i mean19:37
armin76it tried to compile a file with sse2 on its name19:37
ftahm, so it may be different then19:37
ftathen fix it, i don't have access to arm h/w19:38
asaci will check that out now :)19:38
asacbut lets see ... maybe its really fixed and i win the bet we had in #ubuntu-arm :)19:39
armin76doubtful19:39
asacunfortunately armin76 also said that my 512m are going to be good enough :(19:39
armin76if you don't hit that you're going to hit a segfault :)19:39
asaci dont think having -j2 as its now makes that better :(19:39
asacarmin76: on what?19:40
armin76can't remember that one19:40
armin76i tried a lot of things, and that was last week19:40
armin76i don't remember anymore :)19:40
asacfta: i guess ffox source for >3.5 are good enough to do a full build (with mozclient) ... e.g. we do not strip stuff as we did in 3.0?19:52
asacat least from size i would think its identical to full moz central (- binonly)19:52
ftayes19:53
asacxul still building on lucid armel at least now :)19:54
asacbut xpcom .... so it can still fail on assembler i would guess19:54
ftaasac, it's not easy, i can just identify new branches, and releases in those branches. but i don't have enough information to assign those releases to a channel21:07
ftaasac, for ex, in november: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330578/21:13
asacright and they have the right dependency revisions documented for those?21:15
ftaso that gives me 7 branches, resp with their tips at 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17, 4.0.229.2, 4.0.237.2, 4.0.245.2, 4.0.249.19, 4.0.250.221:16
asacc still building :)21:16
asaci guess alsmost 4h? hmm21:16
asacnot sure21:16
asacwhats their latest "official" windows release?21:17
asacstable21:17
asaci jmean21:17
asacmean21:17
ftahttp://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/21:17
ftahm, that's just the dev channel of chrome and chrome frame21:18
asacwhat did you expect?21:18
fta3 branches, stable, beta and dev21:18
asacheh ok.21:18
ftait's probably 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17 and 4.0.249.1921:19
ftabut i can't tell for sure21:19
* asac spins all-in-one-ffox :)21:22
ftalike chronologically, they made 4.0.250.1 then 4.0.249.3, then 4.0.250.2, then 4.0.249.{4..19}21:22
asacbig chunk approach :)21:22
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ftai wonder if there's a seed file somewhere i can use21:44
asacfta: do you know whats the status of chromium gtk theming is?21:47
asacfta: from what i understood on the mail threads that existed they did not publish the seed files for releases in the past21:47
ftai'm not sure they want to do it21:47
asacbut either already started to do that or will be at some point21:48
asacfta: hmm ... didnt they have an effort at some point?21:48
asacto use system theme?21:48
asacuse gtk theme ;)21:49
asacfound it21:49
asacisnt really that bad21:49
asacthought a bit tunable ;)21:49
asacmac_v: did you checkout chromium theming?21:49
asaci am sure there is potential for beautification ;)21:49
asacc is building "webkit/extensions/..../v821:51
mac_vasac: when did they add theming to chromium?21:51
asacmac_v: its there for a while ... you can click on "Use GTK+ Theme"21:51
asacin tools -> something...21:52
mac_voh... cool..21:52
asactools -> options -> personal stuff21:52
* mac_v checks21:52
asaccrazy name ;)21:52
asacfor a tab21:52
ftamaybe in the apt source file installed with chrome..21:52
asac;)21:52
asac"Personal Stuff" ;)21:52
asaceverything is stuff21:52
asacTools Stuff, Option Stuff ;)21:52
ftaanyone has chrome installed?21:52
asacno21:53
mac_vasac: ah... there it is... will have to tweak chromium out ;)22:07
mac_vjust when i thought i was done with theming and stuff for a while... they pull be back it ;p22:11
mac_vin*22:11
mac_v*pull me back in!22:11
mac_voh great... i think i got to hit the sack22:12
asacmac_v: thx!! enjoy22:13
asacc still building22:13
asacsvn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/chrome/browser/automation/automation_provider.cc:2221:22:13
ftapreview: 4.0.223.16 (Windows Beta Channel), 4.0.249.12 (Mac Dev channel), 4.0.249.11 (Windows & Linux Dev channel)  (2009-11-23; 5 days ago)22:22
ftaStable release 3.0.195.33  (2009-11-12; 16 days ago)22:22
ftahmm, wikipedia seems to know more than i do ;)22:23
ftaso 195 is stable, 233 beta and 249 dev, pff22:25
ftas/243/223/22:26
fta<fta> it's probably 3.0.195.36, 4.0.223.17 and 4.0.249.1922:26
ftabingo22:27
mac_vfta: hmm , the default chromium home page is still "9.04" :)22:27
fta?22:27
ftawhere?22:27
asacfor me its google ;)22:28
asacnot sure if i set that somewhere22:28
mac_vfta: fresh install directs to > http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/22:28
asacand new tab is ... newtab22:28
mac_voptions shows that ^22:28
asacmaybe system integration of some kind?22:28
ftachromium has the ubuntu start page??? how come?22:28
ftait didn't do anything for that to happen22:29
mac_voh , or did that gather info from firefox o.022:29
fta-it+i22:29
ftaoh, yes, b-m imports22:29
mac_vah.. nvm crazy me then .... lalala22:29
ftaif i do a chromium/stable ppa with 3.0.195.*, i wonder if users will use it.. it's old22:36
asaci would start with the chromium/testing for now ;)22:39
asaci  would think that 3. was not really great for linux22:39
ftastable & beta are just for windows22:43
ftabeta recently moved to 4.0.223.16 from 3.0.195.2722:44
asacwell. but you are talking about trying to do the same for ubuntu ;)22:50
asacso i say: go for testing/beta atm ... once 4.x gets to stable also start doing it for stable22:50
asacif its not possible because they dont publish the seeds for those branches then we need to do someting about it ;)22:51
ftaasac, http://identi.ca/notice/1570802122:53
asacreplied ;)22:58
asachttp://identi.ca/conversation/15708021#notice-1571112822:58
asacE: firefox-3.5: menu-icon-not-in-xpm-format /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png23:00
asacE: firefox-3.5: embedded-zlib ./usr/lib/firefox-3.5.6pre/libxul.so23:00
asachehe23:00
asacseems lintian doesnt like us including zlib23:00
asacc still building ;)23:13
asacsvn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/chrome/browser/fav_icon_helper.cc23:13
ftaasac, <50%23:21
ftaand just of the build part, excluding the tests and the rest of the packaging23:22
asacyeah23:23
asacis there a flag i can set to not run the tests ;)?23:23
ftayes23:28
ftaWANT_TESTS=023:28
asacok willl check that23:28
asacnext time .. :-P23:28
ftayou're building on your phone or what?23:29
* micahg likes the green for the dailies :)23:29
av`fta, where can I grab a stable chrome release for sid / squeeze?23:30
av`fta, e.g not a daily, but something a bit more stable23:30
asacno stable release available23:30
asaconly dailies23:30
asacbecause upstream does not do any stable releases for chrome/linux yet. read backlog (last few hours)23:31
asacthat was discussed extensively there ;)23:31
asacav`: ^^23:31
av`ah damnit23:31
asacbut you can install the daily packages in debian sid afaik23:31
av`so I need to hope that the dailies I gonna grab will be stable enough23:31
asacdailies are good usually23:31
asachaven't seen many complain about it here ;)23:32
av`I saw fta talking about a chrome-unstable release23:32
av`some days ago, but don't know where to grab it :)23:32
av`gonna search a bit23:32
asacav`: dailies _are_ chromium-unstable basically23:39
asacthe official chrome is available on net somewhere -> search ;)23:40
asacthats named chrome-unstable23:40
asacbut is basically our dailies (fta?)23:40
ftayep, google-chrome-unstable is provided by google (no source) but it's not more stable that our dailies. both are from trunk23:43
fta-that+than23:43
ftathe daily is more popular23:44
ftachromium-browser                 22602   1.68%      4911   10997    6690       423:44
ftagoogle-chrome-unstable           18666   1.39%      4535    8225    5887      1923:44
asacyep23:44
av`ok, perfect, gonna have a look at the dailies then23:44
asachttp://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily23:44
asac;)23:44
asacok firefox all-in-one seems to work23:44
av`thanks :)23:44
asacsome minor cleanups and that should be good23:44
ftaso it means more build cycles??23:45
asacif we keep xulrunner, yes.23:45
ftai don't mind, but obviously, some do23:46
asac!builderstatus23:47
fta!builderstatus23:51
ftalol23:51

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