[00:00] <badmuppet> Anyone here running vmware server 2 on ubuntu 9.10
[00:00] <aSt3raL> what if im sending it to someone using windows?
[00:00] <aron_> Is it safe to have an easy pswd or none at all for a non-root user, if my computer is physically safe?
[00:00] <hedkandi> roger! I see that is a useful thing to make myself root
[00:00] <Blizzerand> aron : no !
[00:01] <badmuppet> never make yourself root
[00:01] <h4writer> sebsebseb, kostkon, ty for you help both. I posted a bug report: #489414
[00:01] <LjL> aron_: that password is used both locally and remotely - i.e. it will prevent someone with physical access from doing admin-like things on your computer, but it will also prevent them from logging in remotely if you have any sort of remote login facility (such as an SSH server) enabled. ubuntu, by default, doesn't come with any such thing enabled, though.
[00:01] <badmuppet> change your root password using sudo passwd root
[00:01] <helltraum> ibuclaw not sure what you mean ... I just done a apt-get install firestarter
[00:01] <Blizzerand> ^^aron__ : You should have a passd for the least
[00:01] <sebsebseb> h4writer: ok
[00:01] <helltraum> That worked on my local machine
[00:01] <helltraum> just when I try it for this remote machine ....
[00:02] <helltraum> It doesn't work
[00:02] <yuanmin> sebsebseb why my ubuntu 9.10 ask me the password of my wifi  every 5 minutes where i have already connected to my wifi?
[00:02] <ibuclaw> helltraum, when you turn the firewall on?
[00:02] <hedkandi> seriously this is a bug in "system - admin - users and groups" :
[00:02] <hedkandi> It will not delete a user
[00:03] <helltraum> Ok ... first time I install it ... it runs the wizard
[00:03] <erUSUL> aSt3raL: depends on the mail client you use. most make it quite automatic. gnerate your gpg keys (using seahorse for example)
[00:03] <hedkandi> that is a pretty damning criticism of ubuntu if they can't even get that right.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> yuanmin: don't know
[00:03] <aron_> LjL, I see I haven't installed any servers or ssh so I should be safe then
[00:03] <helltraum> I then setup the rules through the front end (I'm using X11 forwarding)
[00:03] <erUSUL> aSt3raL: in evolution ther is support out of the box in Thunderbird you have to install enigmail iirc
[00:04] <erUSUL> !gpg
[00:04] <helltraum> then I start the firewall
[00:04] <yuanmin> sebsebseb: thanks , :D
[00:04] <judgen> Is there a fix for vmware workstation on ubuntu 9.10.. making it behave like in 9.04
[00:04] <erUSUL> !gpg > aSt3raL
[00:04] <helltraum> it blocks everything
[00:04] <sebsebseb> judgen: Meaning?
[00:04] <helltraum> severs my ssh and X11 forwarding
[00:04] <SmittyJensen> Hello. I'm trying to run Wubi. It finished the Ubuntu/Wubi installation, but when I try to boot into Ubuntu I get just a "grub:sh" prompt. What did I do wrong? :S
[00:04] <helltraum> blocks the web server ...
[00:04] <ibuclaw> hedkandi, would depend what you are trying to do - how you are doing it. Last time I checked I could do whatever with user accounts freely in there.
[00:04] <MayaG> hello, everyone, good evening. I have a problem I was hoping someone could help me with. I installed Ubuntu perfectly today, with a ATI Graphic card on my computer. Everything was good. But, afterwards, I proceded to physically remove the ATI card and installed a Nvidia card instead. So, after booting my computer back up to see if everything was ok, ubuntu doesnt boot up. Well, it does but there seems to be a problem with trying to lo
[00:04] <MayaG> ad the nvidea card. Any ideas? Thanks.
[00:05] <judgen> sebsebseb, meaning that it did not run at a comfortable speed in kernels later than 2.6.16-28
[00:05] <sebsebseb> judgen: Well that's VMware's fault not Ubuntu's
[00:05] <sebsebseb> judgen: since it's closed source
[00:05] <judgen> sebsebseb, hmm can i revert to a older kernel somehow?
[00:05] <ibuclaw> helltraum, when you ssh on, run: sudo ufw status
[00:05] <Blizzerand> !empathy
[00:05] <sebsebseb> judgen: Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:06] <judgen> 9.10.
[00:06] <hedkandi> ibuclaw: well it won't delete a user
[00:06] <nytek_> MayaG: do you have onboard video?
[00:06] <ibuclaw> helltraum, ufw may be turned on by default on server
[00:06] <judgen> sebsebseb, karmic.
[00:06] <ibuclaw> helltraum, ufw - like firestarter - is just another frontend to the Linux IPTables firewall.
[00:06] <sebsebseb> judgen: as far as I know really you should be using the kernel from the Karmic repo.  You could try  Virtualbox instead that can use VMDK files.  You can also put Ubuntu 9.04 back on of course.
[00:06] <MayaG> hello nytek, its a Nvidea 120 i think it is onboard
[00:06] <helltraum> The remote server is not ubuntu .. it's debian
[00:06] <sebsebseb> judgen: you could even try another distro
[00:07] <macbook> hello everyone
[00:07] <judgen> sebsebseb, virtualbox does not support 3d as good as vmw workstation.
[00:07] <ibuclaw> helltraum, also: iptables -L
[00:07] <nytek_> MayaG: its an onboard nvidia card?
[00:07] <ibuclaw> helltraum, check if any other configuration got in there.
[00:08] <MayaG> nytek umm.. yes
[00:08] <macbook> does anyone in here run ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook2,1?
[00:08] <MayaG> it is
[00:08] <aSt3raL> erUSUL, what?
[00:08] <boingolov> apparently there isn't a clean way to do the dual dhcp nic's / default gateway thing, but interface "eth1" { supersede routers "0.0.0.0"; } did the trick, just gives an error about an invalid addy when it brings up the interface
[00:08] <nicklas_> hello, does ubuntu also have problems with the new nvidia drivers, xorg and desktop effects? using sabayon now but thinking about changing back to ubuntu since the desktop effects is messing both with kwin and compiz, the desktop hangs and lags
[00:08] <MayaG> nvidia gt 120
[00:08] <boingolov> in the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[00:08] <sebsebseb> judgen: Well  really in my opinion anyway,  for many of us  Ubuntu 9.04 would be the better release over all, rather than 9.10 (it's just many Ubuntu users don't reolize that).  Nothing wrong with putting 9.04 back on when it's still being supported by security updates.
[00:08] <boingolov> shouldn't be that ugly, this is easy on rhel
[00:09] <zzzxzzz> guys i want to made upgrade with terminal and i got this message:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:09] <zzzxzzz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:09] <KittyBoots> How do I install ark?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: you got synaptic or the graphical update manager open when trying to do that?
[00:09] <Archanamiya> KittyBoots: sudo apt-get install ark
[00:09] <Ponuwon> how do i mount the World of Warcraft DVD so that it shows up right for Wine to install the game?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: you can't  install software from apt-get/aptitude  when a graphical  program  for it is being run
[00:09] <nytek_> MayaG: can you see your bios info when you load the machine?
[00:09] <Archanamiya> Ponuwon: Acetoneiso2 or gmount
[00:10] <MayaG> yes sir
[00:10] <sebsebseb> judgen: maybe #vmware can help you
[00:10] <MayaG> i can..
[00:10] <BluesKaj> zzzxzzz, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:10] <nytek_> MayaG: thens its a driver problem, you might have to reinstall
[00:10] <ibuclaw> hedkandi, I can remove users with no issue
[00:10] <MayaG> ahhh
[00:10] <MayaG> i see
[00:10] <Ponuwon> Archanamiya: gmount? is that a download in the software center?
[00:10] <zzzxzzz> i don't  use graphical program just the xchat
[00:10] <ibuclaw> hedkandi, check that whatever user you are trying to remove is not already logged in.
[00:10] <Archanamiya> Ponuwon: yes
[00:11] <Archanamiya> !botsnack
[00:11] <ibuclaw> hedkandi, or yourself - or root.
[00:11] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: what kind of upgrade are you trying to do?
[00:11] <nytek_> MayaG: :(
[00:11] <hedkandi> ibuclaw, are they really gone tho: have you looked in the passwd file?
[00:11] <Archanamiya> Ponuwon: Wait. You want to mount an ISO right?
[00:11] <zzzxzzz> ubuntu 9.10
[00:11] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: right, 9.04 to 9.10?
[00:11] <hedkandi> ibuclaw: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:11] <Archanamiya> dat f****** prawn
[00:11] <MayaG> nytek, what would be the best way to do that? i partitioned my HD and how can i reinstall it in the same partiotion i had it?
[00:11] <Ponuwon> Archanamiya: its not an iso though its the actually DVD but when i insert the disk it mounts an only shows some Mac OS folder
[00:12] <zzzxzzz> and i have beta version
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !language |  Archanamiya
[00:12] <BluesKaj> zzzxzzz, read my post above, copy and paste it into the terminal
[00:12] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: a beta of what?
[00:12] <zzzxzzz> 9.10
[00:12] <Archanamiya> Ponuwon: I see... Can't help you there than. Ask someone else. Sorry :S
[00:12] <zzzxzzz> beta 9.10
[00:13] <BluesKaj> we can lead a horse to water....
[00:13] <Archanamiya> prawns
[00:13] <Ponuwon> how do i mount the World of Warcraft DVD so that it shows up right for Wine to install the game?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> Ponuwon: try asking in #winehq
[00:14] <dupondje> Ponuwon: just insert the disk?
[00:14] <dupondje> and then open the setup.exe :)
[00:14] <dupondje> it will open wine automaticly
[00:15] <ibuclaw> hedkandi, with the exception of 1 group of a user I created, yes.
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Ponuwon: or what dupondje put I guess
[00:15] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, can anybody please tell me how to suspend an ubutu box from the commandline?
[00:15] <GrimmVarg> 9.10
[00:15] <hedkandi> well it doesn't work for me on karmic
[00:15] <BillHarris> Is there a best practice screencasting tool on Jaunty?  recordmydesktop plus audacity -> ffmpeg to create an mp4 seems as good as any as I've found as far as size, but it's still enormous (2.3MB for 45 seconds, and I need to do 15-60 minute recordings).
[00:15] <zzzxzzz> sebsebseb ?
[00:15] <Ponuwon> dupondje: i do just insert the disk but it mounts and only shows some Mac OS folder and wont let me install the game
[00:16] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  zzzxzzz
[00:16] <radekbxl> hi
[00:16] <sebsebseb> !final |  zzzxzzz
[00:16] <sebsebseb> zzzxzzz: well  yeah  you will have the final if you can upgrade from your beta, as long as the updates were done properly, then you will have the real proper thing for 9.10
[00:19] <Archanamiya> !language | ubottu
[00:19] <Archanamiya> o_o
[00:19] <zzzxzzz> sebsebseb: thanks
[00:19] <GrimmVarg> FYI, /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux sends ubuntu to sleep ;)
[00:20] <Archanamiya> :D
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Archanamiya: I want to use the bot again, but  that may mean I will ruin your fun a bit.
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  Archanamiya
[00:22] <Ponuwon> how do i mount the World of Warcraft DVD so that it shows up right for Wine to install the game? no help from #winehq because they say its a mount issue
[00:23] <sebsebseb> !mount |  Ponuwon
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Ponuwon: That was a factoid guess, well maybe that link will be useful
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Ponuwon: also I thought the CD needed to be mounted in wineconfig
[00:24] <sebsebseb> or something
[00:24] <Flannel> Ponuwon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft  walks you through it, you basically just copy the files
[00:24] <Ponuwon> Flannel: how can i copy the files though if i cant see them on the DVD
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Flannel: Hmm why didn't I think that there is probably a link, oh well I guess
[00:25] <Ponuwon> Flannel: the only thing i can see on the DVD is a Mac OSX.app folder
[00:25] <Ponuwon> Flannel: the dvd is for both Windows and Mac OS
[00:26] <Flannel> Ponuwon: You have to remount it, there's a note on that page under "Original WoW", right above the second code box thing in that section
[00:26] <Gumersindo> hola frikis
[00:27] <iarp> is there anyway to send a system wide message to all logged in users via terminal.
[00:27] <Ponuwon> Flannel: ill give it a try thank you for the help
[00:27] <flithm> how can I disable pulse audio again?
[00:27] <flithm> (temporarily)
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Ponuwon: Good luck, and I forgot that there is an Ubuntu link for WOW
[00:30] <birdistheword> hi, whats a good program (preferably GUI and very easy!) to burn a movie to dvd on ubuntu? also one that cna burn subtitles
[00:31] <bastid_raZor> birdistheword: devede if you need to convert from a non dvd file.
[00:31] <birdistheword> i do, bastid_raZor its .mkv :/
[00:31] <mMezquitale> birdistheword, i always use brasero but dont know if you can burn subtitles though
[00:32] <judgen> sebsebseb, hmm i updated the kernel to the newest available in the repos. and now it seems to run just fine.
[00:32] <sebsebseb> judgen: ok good, and yes  always get the security updates
[00:32] <bastid_raZor> birdistheword: devede will do fine then, it will convert and make a file (.iso) ready to be burnt. then use any burning app (brasero or k3b) to burn it to disc
[00:32] <sebsebseb> judgen: when on an Internet connected install
[00:32] <birdistheword> k bastid_raZor. can it do subtitles?
[00:32] <judgen> sebsebseb, always is =)
[00:33] <sebsebseb> judgen: you always are you mean
[00:33] <sebsebseb> ?
[00:33] <bastid_raZor> birdistheword: yes,
[00:33] <birdistheword> all i needed to know. thanks for your help bastid_raZor , mMezquitale
[00:34] <zzzxzzz> hello
[00:34] <zzzxzzz> is anybody here to help me?
[00:35] <lstarnes> zzzxzzz: we can't help you if we don't know what you need help with
[00:35] <rstob911> please just ask your question
[00:35] <judgen> wow that was some crappy 3dmark score in vmware... 8000 =P
[00:35] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Im sure it did better than my desktop would
[00:36] <mMezquitale> bastid_raZor, would devebe create an iso from a video I create, say in kino, so that I can use brasero to burn it?
[00:36] <truepurple> Should I install ununtu live or netinstall? What is the difference?
[00:36] <bastid_raZor> mMezquitale: yes it should. just provide the video file and it does the rest.
[00:37] <rstob911> truepurple: the live cd you can see how its going to work with your hardware
[00:37] <mMezquitale> bastid_raZor, thanks!  I'm still creating the video, now I know what I need to do to create the iso
[00:37] <sekyourbox> Open arina on ubuntu is slow and flakey, anyone know a fix?
[00:38] <truepurple> So how is that different from net install?
[00:39] <Cyber_Akuma_2> truepurple: the live cd lets you boot and run the oss off the cd, without touching your harddrive
[00:39] <Cyber_Akuma_2> you can literally run the os without installign it, to see how well it would work on your pc
[00:39] <Cyber_Akuma_2> net install means you install it...
[00:39] <truepurple> What is the difference between running without installing, and the regular installing?
[00:40] <truepurple> Especially, how would it be different on a bootable flash drive?
[00:40] <acicula> flashdrivse are not reliable for running an os permanently
[00:40] <acicula> usb flashdrives that is
[00:41] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Isnt that essentialyl what a SSD is? XD
[00:41] <Swish> acicula, probably not; but if they're mounted read-only they are
[00:41] <truepurple> Why is that aciculu?
[00:41] <Cyber_Akuma_2> essentially* XD
[00:41] <acicula> usb flash drives = cheap crappy flash, only limited writes
[00:41] <acicula> SSD flash, big hunking expensive flash capable of doing lots of write cycles
[00:41] <Swish> SSDs "should" be designed with better write algorithms.  Intel SSDs certainly are
[00:41] <Cyber_Akuma_2> flash is not a good palce to run any sort of paging or large amount of temp files on
[00:41] <truepurple> You mean they are slow?
[00:41] <acicula> hence 16GB usb stick cheap, 16GB ssd expensive
[00:41] <jorik> acicula: still limited, but less limited
[00:41] <Cyber_Akuma_2> no truepurple
[00:41] <rstob911> truepurple: the net install is a minimal install then you have to get the rest from synaptic
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma_2> HE means parts can start breaking down and stop being able to write new data after being overwritten a certain number of times
[00:42] <acicula> Cyber_Akuma_2 ^^
[00:42] <truepurple> OH, they have a limit life span? I thought they were solid state
[00:42]  * Cyber_Akuma_2 speaks layman
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma_2> XD
[00:42] <acicula> Usb flash drives are not designed to take the brutal wear and tear that an ssd can take
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma_2> ow ow ow
[00:42] <Cyber_Akuma_2> that one hurt even me
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Solid State means electronic memory (not magnetic like a normal harddrive or optical like a cdrom, but a chip) that can keep it's data even after you no longer supply it with power
[00:43] <Cyber_Akuma_2> RAM is the exact opposite of this, everything in ram is erased the second you stop supplying it with power (like turn off the pc)
[00:44] <truepurple> Solid state also means no moving parts right?
[00:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> correct
[00:44] <kermit> truepurple: not 'also'
[00:44] <acicula> truepurple: limited lifespan is relative, i cant make it more clear then i already wrote, flash has a (fixed sorta) times you can write to it. if you dont write to it ti will remain there untill the chip breaks
[00:44] <truepurple> Which I would think would mean minimal wear and tear verses a HDD which has big disks spinning at high speed
[00:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Because of this they are immune to wear and tear from mechanical parts, make no noise, produce less heat, and use less power
[00:44] <rstob911> not unless you throw it accross the room
[00:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> But they still technically have less rewrites than a normal hdd
[00:44] <Cyber_Akuma_2> But the high end models have something insane like 100,000
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma_2> chances are the drive will become obselete before you ever hit that limit
[00:45] <acicula> Cyber_Akuma_2: wrong, flash has to erase more then a normal hdd
[00:45] <kermit> flash is rather unique in that it's solid state but wears
[00:45] <acicula> Cyber_Akuma_2: as you write per small block, but can only erase per say 20 blocks at a time
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma_2> And although technically a mechanical hdd can rewrite more, its more likely to break down from mechnical failure before a sdd hits its rewrite lmit
[00:45] <truepurple> Why does flash have to erase more?
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma_2> acicula: ah, i see
[00:45] <acicula> its the way the memory works
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> .... i'll let acicula answer that one, its too complicated XD
[00:46] <BluesKaj> !OT, this isn't helping anyone
[00:46] <truepurple> Do you know what causes the wear?
[00:46] <Khul> hello people!!!
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> even MORE complicated :P
[00:46] <truepurple> In a nutshell?
[00:46] <acicula> truepurple: as an electrotechnical dude, preferably one with a bsc/msc, but err electromicgration?
[00:46] <rstob911> ones and zeros
[00:46] <acicula> *ask
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> err, in a nutshell... all the electrons moving across the circuitry eventually cause it to fail
[00:46] <Cyber_Akuma_2> I guess
[00:47] <truepurple> Hmm, is this sdd a form of flash?
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> it IS flash
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> just higher quality than a flashdrive
[00:47] <acicula> i guess the basic idea to remember is that even chips or electrical components that do not move suffer from some degradation
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Its used toe differentiate it from a hdd, which is magnetic and optical based
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> err
[00:48] <BluesKaj> one comment , quantum computing
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> magnetic and MECHANICAL
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> not optical
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Computers are slowly and slowly having less and less moving parts
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Though fans are a big one
[00:48] <greezmunkey> Cyber_Akuma_2, tere were magneto-optical frives made as well :)
[00:48] <Cyber_Akuma_2> yeah I know
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> but I never hard of a harddeive that was MO
[00:49] <truepurple> Ok, if I were to use a sdd drive, or a basic drive, just for a little while, which would you use, netinstall or live?
[00:49] <greezmunkey> Cyber_Akuma_2, yup
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> fyi
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> live would not tough the drive at all
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> regardless of what it is
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> you could even use lvie without ANY hdd in the computer
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> because it runs off the cd
[00:49] <truepurple> WHat is MO?
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Magneto-Optical
[00:49] <truepurple> This would run off the flash drive
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> A disk that is a mix of magnetic and optical
[00:49] <Cyber_Akuma_2> don't worry about it
[00:50] <truepurple> So reading doesnt wear it much, just writting does?
[00:50] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Its unlikely you will ever run into one
[00:50] <lfaraone> Hi, when I'm watching a DVD in VLC or Movie Player, I hear the background but not the voices. This is the case with multiple dvds. Do I have a misconfiguration problem?
[00:50] <greezmunkey> truepurple, yea, they were sort of popular before CD-R became cheap(er)
[00:50] <jograd> hey i setup postfix right, pop3 and imap are ok, and squirrelmail is installed correctly. i created a user doing useradd or adduser and giving it a password and adding it to postfix/virtual and then ran postmap. when i try logging in using th eusername and password in squirrelmail, it says that user maybe unknown or password is wrong. HELP PLEASE
[00:50] <lfaraone> *configuration issue
[00:50] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Is it sad that I learned about MO disks from Resident EVil? XD
[00:50] <Cyber_Akuma_2> First time I heard about them
[00:50] <acicula> lfaraone: choose a different audio channel
[00:50] <BluesKaj> !
[00:50] <truepurple> CD-RW you mean, since CD-r doesnt compare.
[00:51] <lfaraone> acicula: there aren't any other audio channels to choose from
[00:51] <tabris|away> jograd: do any other users work for squirrelmail?
[00:51] <lfaraone> acicula: let me rephrase, chancing the audio track does not cause any change.
[00:51] <acicula> lfaraone: using some 5/7.1 sound set that is hooked up wrong?
[00:51] <greezmunkey> truepurple, yes, you are correct sir!
[00:51] <Ozzah> Hi, every time I press ctrl+shift my keyboard layout changes from english to ascii. This is incredibly annoying since a bunch of my kb shortcuts use ctrl+shift+something. Does anybody know how to disable this? I never use it anyway.
[00:51] <lfaraone> acicula: possibly, but music etc works fine.
[00:51] <acicula> lfaraone: sounds like its playing the wrong audio track from the dvd though
[00:52] <Khul> <- in desperated need for help with error : E: No se pudo abrir el fichero de bloqueo '/var/lib/dpkg/lock' - open (13 Permiso denegado)
[00:52] <Khul> trying to install Flumotion using : apt-get update && apt-get install flumotion
[00:52] <acicula> Khul: sudo
[00:52] <tabris|away> Khul: you're probably not root
[00:52] <truepurple> A flash drive would still have more rewrites in it the a rewrite disk, right?
[00:52] <jograd> tabirs away : yes ill be using squirrelmail so all users will use it
[00:52] <Fizix> I've been using the 64-bit distros of Ubuntu for some time now but I just procured a netbook and I'll be eradicating XP in lieu of Ubuntu Netbook Remix. Are there any known bug issues with UNR I should know of?
[00:52] <acicula> truepurple: a cd-rw?
[00:52] <truepurple> yes
[00:52] <lfaraone> !releasenotes | Fizix
[00:52] <greezmunkey> truepurple, I would hope so!
[00:52] <tabris|away> jograd: not the question. the question was "does it work for _anyone_ right now"
[00:52] <Khul> <- please let me know if any1 is familiar with installing Flumotion !! Thanks!!
[00:53] <acicula> truepurple: dunno tbh, id guess a flash will work better then an cd-rw
[00:53] <tabris|away> jograd: as in, is it just the new user that doesn't work, or is it rather that no one can use it right now?
[00:53] <Fizix> Thank you.
[00:53] <tabris|away> Khul: no, i don't know flumotion, but your question is properly generic.
[00:53] <truepurple> Is live a slower way for the program to run then netinstall?
[00:53] <acicula> truepurple: also afaik you can only change an rw by wiping the entire disk
[00:53] <acicula> truepurple:no
[00:53] <greezmunkey> truepurple, Most flash drives these days hold more too.
[00:53] <tabris|away> Khul: when you attempt the install, you need to be root, or use sudo
[00:54] <acicula> truepurple: netinstall is what it sais, boot small stuff => install os => run os, live cd is just that, boots straight into the os
[00:54] <truepurple> So the difference is, netinstall loads drivers too, while live doesn't?
[00:54] <acicula> no, they both support the same stuff
[00:55] <yabuk> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and all videos are blue, how to fix it?
[00:55] <acovrig> yabuk, what player are you using?
[00:55] <acicula> netinstall can only install, livecd can run a live version or install
[00:55] <truepurple> Gah, I still don't understand the difference between the two
[00:55] <rstob911> truepurple: net install i minimal and live is full
[00:55] <jograd> tabris away: as in i did restart postmap and the like. the pop3 and smtp sending and recieving works because when i send a message to my user in the server from live.com i get it and the user in my server has mailboxes BUT when i try logging in squirrelmail using the password and username of the user in the server, it says unknown user or incorrect password
[00:55] <tabris|away> truepurple: also the live can bring up the GUI installer faster.
[00:55] <tabris|away> truepurple: the netinstaller requires more work to get to the gui.
[00:55] <tabris|away> truepurple: assuming you care.
[00:56] <Khul> tabris|away: yes. i install using : sudo apt-get update && apt-get install flumotion
[00:56] <truepurple> So what is it that live skips?
[00:56] <acovrig> yabuk, try VLC, it works perfectly
[00:56] <Fizix> Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix = Ubuntu Moblin Remix ?
[00:56] <Khul> tabris|away: but i still egt the error in the final step
[00:56] <tabris|away> Khul: the sudo must be in front of each command
[00:56] <yabuk> acovrig: all players plays all videos blue
[00:56] <acicula> truepurple: downloading
[00:56] <truepurple> downloading what?
[00:56] <rstob911> truepurple: live doesnt skip nothing
[00:56] <tabris|away> Khul: '&&' is like ';'
[00:56] <acovrig> yabuk, did you try vlc?
[00:56] <acicula> everything it needs to run
[00:56] <yabuk> yep
[00:56] <truepurple> Then how can it be any faster?
[00:56] <Khul> tabris|away: how do you think i should be write the command?
[00:56] <acovrig> yabuk, did you go through all the settings?
[00:57] <acicula> its not
[00:57] <tabris|away> jograd: check that your squirrelmail is setup to use the correct pop3 server. iirc, the auth is all handled through imap/pop3
[00:57] <acicula> truepurple: what are you trying to accomplish
[00:57] <tabris|away> jograd: besides, isn't squirrelmail an impap client, not pop3?
[00:57] <rstob911> truepurple: download one or the other i dont care at this point
[00:57] <truepurple> If live is so much faster, and does everything netinstall does, why use netinstall??
[00:57] <Khul> tabris|away: should i type:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flumotion     ?
[00:57] <tabris|away> Khul: yes.
[00:57] <tabris|away> truepurple: smaller CD.
[00:58] <Khul> tabris|away: thanks pal! now ive learned 1 more thing!
[00:58] <netyire> hi all! Is there a way to create a compressed file system in a file and mount that file in ubuntu?
[00:58] <jograd> tabris away: hey tabris how do you create an imap user then?
[00:58] <acicula> truepurple: i use netinstall because i dont have to burn a cd that way as basicly all you need is a kernel and an initrd
[00:58] <truepurple> Oh, so live takes up more space?
[00:58] <tabris|away> jograd: not a question of 'imap user' but rather making sure you have an 'imap server' installed.
[00:58] <JonathanEllis> I have a VIDEO_TS folder complete with files copied from a DVD. To burn it to another DVD do I just add the entire folder to Brasero's Create Video DVD window?
[00:58] <tabris|away> truepurple: on the CD, yes.
[00:58] <tabris|away> truepurple: consider how big of a file you'll need to download and burn.
[00:58] <truepurple> Then netinstall takes on the hdd?
[00:58] <yabuk> acovrig: since I upgraded 9.04 --> 9.10, I've this trouble
[00:58] <jograd> tabris away: imap port 143 working used by squirrelmail as said in configuration
[00:59] <rstob911> OMG
[00:59] <jograd> tabris away: telnet localhost 143 is OK
[00:59] <sobersabre> how many CPUS/cores can ubuntu server amd64 kernel support ?
[00:59] <truepurple> live is a larger program then netinstall? How much bigger is it?
[00:59] <tabris|away> jograd: can you get a client like evolution or thunderbird to talk to the imap server?
[00:59] <acovrig> yabuk, sorry, idk - just my pennie's worth
[00:59] <acicula> sobersabre: im not sure there's a limit, as long as your are not going over 50+ cores?
[01:00] <acicula> not that that is a limit
[01:00] <tabris|away> truepurple: on debian, the installer requires 6 CDs (same for RedHat). netinst takes ~300MB and one CD on Debian.
[01:00] <acicula> the
[01:00] <rstob911> or it takes one dvdrw
[01:00] <greezmunkey> yikes, the last time >10 yrs ago, redhat was on one!
[01:01] <l0rd_hex> I'm havng a weird nfs problem, I can mount shares from other clients and run showmount -e server but I can't do either on the server
[01:01] <acicula> sobersabre: there is no artificial core limit like with windows in any case, dunno what the maximum core count is though
[01:01] <jorik> 10 years ago suse was 7 cd's :)
[01:01] <l0rd_hex> I
[01:01] <truepurple> live requires 6 cd's worth of space? i thought I was told that it boot from only 1 disk
[01:01] <greezmunkey> he he
[01:01] <l0rd_hex> I'm an OpenBSD user usually so I'm unsure of why
[01:01] <tabris|away> truepurple: are you gonna keep misreading what ppl say repeatedly?
[01:01] <truepurple> You got to keep swapping disks to boot with live with CD-Rs?
[01:01] <tabris|away> truepurple: do you want to misunderstand/
[01:02] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darklty" Richard Stallman
[01:02] <truepurple> I am trying to understand, please be nice
[01:02] <tabris|away> truepurple: i technically didn't mention the live.
[01:02] <tabris|away> truepurple: i just meant to say that the netinst disc is SMALL. fits on a mini-cd i think.
[01:02] <tabris|away> (not on a business card anymore, but...)
[01:03] <acicula> tabris|away: well you could, you still only need the vmlinuz and initrd
[01:03] <acicula> just add grub
[01:03] <rstob911> ok truepurple there is a ubuntu live that is around 699 mb and the netinstall is about 300 mb
[01:03] <chilli0> Hi How can i get my SD slot to work ? | lenovo Y530
[01:04] <ron-l-j> grep
[01:04] <chilli0> ron-l-j: ??
[01:05] <truepurple> Is there any other reason to use netinstaller verses live besides space saving/not having to use a CD?
[01:05] <Helsinkiii> hi.everytime i need to install or uninstall something i get a ttf-liberation dkpg error or something of the likes
[01:05] <truepurple> Thank you for the information about the space btw
[01:05] <Helsinkiii> i also can't remove Decibel Audio player. it just refuses to come off and i think it has to do with this ttf-liberation thing
[01:06] <m1dlg> how do I install drivers for my USB to serial adaptor (Prlific PL2303 device)
[01:06] <truepurple> Could live be installed on a hdd?
[01:07] <ron-l-j> chillio HI
[01:07] <silktaco> hi all - is there a side chanel for wpa_supplicant. Am tyring to get wifi working but it it's turning out not to be so easy
[01:07] <ron-l-j> using grep to look in files for what you want
[01:08] <tabris|away> silktaco: wpa_gui ?
[01:08] <ron-l-j> if you where searching for a keyword you know is in a file say you had a file called fish
[01:09] <ron-l-j> you would type in the command grep fish *
[01:09] <jschall> is there some kind of map software available that supports usb gps receivers?
[01:09] <silktaco> tabris|away - no one there
[01:09] <m1dlg> how do I install drivers for my USB to serial adaptor (Prolific PL2303 device)
[01:09] <ron-l-j> the star is a wild card to look inside files and through directories
[01:09] <Khul> any1 know why could i be geting  this error ? "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[01:09] <acicula> Khul: a package failed installing
[01:10] <truepurple> Could live be installed on a hdd?
[01:10] <tabris|away> silktaco: sorry, misunderstood. i thought you wanted another client that makes it easier to use, not an irc chan
[01:10] <chilli0> Hi How can i get my SD slot to work ? | lenovo Y530
[01:10] <ron-l-j> truepurple what do you mean by installed ?
[01:10] <ron-l-j> true purple do you mean bootable ?
[01:10] <ron-l-j> copied ?
[01:11] <silktaco> tabris|away:  np.  thanks anyway.  I'm having a very difficult time with wpa_supplicant. I keep getting a disconnect error code (reason=3) but there's not info for me to debug myself.
[01:11] <truepurple> Could it be run off the hard drive, like netinstall?
[01:11] <acicula> truepurple: you can install ubuntu to a drive, and to do it use a livecd or a netinstall, the end result is the same
[01:11] <abcdef> how to install opengl 3.2 ?
[01:11] <ron-l-j> yes you can save an iso image and run it off your hard drive as a virtual machine
[01:12] <Steelclan> Guys
[01:12] <Steelclan> Theres a flaw with the server
[01:12] <mcurran> Anyone know how I could use Metasploit to mount/gain access to a separate host on my wireless network?
[01:12] <acicula> mcurran: go away
[01:12] <Steelclan> I need to speak with the owner/admin of this server.
[01:12] <Steelclan> So I can tell him about the secruity flaw.
[01:12] <truepurple> Virtual machine? Wouldnt that require more resources?
[01:12] <Steelclan> I just 50 bots connected.
[01:12] <Steelclan> *I just had 50 bots/clones connected to a channel.
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> Steelclan: #freenode or #staff
[01:12] <abcdef> how to install the latest version of opengl ?
[01:13] <m1dlg> it's an ongoing issue steelclan, it's freenode
[01:13] <ron-l-j> you would have to share some system resources to run it 8 mg video memory and 256 - 512 ram
[01:13] <m1dlg> how do I install drivers for my USB to serial adaptor (Prolific PL2303 device)
[01:13] <truepurple> By virtual machine, do you mean some kind of CD emulation?
[01:13] <truepurple> CD drive emulation?
[01:14] <truepurple> That would take extra resources?
[01:14] <abcdef> plz help me
[01:14] <m1dlg> !ask | abcdef
[01:14] <abcdef> how to install the latest version of OpenGL for Ubuntu
[01:14] <ron-l-j> mldlg http://blog.mypapit.net/2008/05/how-to-use-usb-serial-port-converter-in-ubuntu.html
[01:15] <Helsinkiii> i get this: anyone? dpkg: error processing ttf-liberation (--configure):
[01:15] <Helsinkiii>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:15] <Helsinkiii> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:15] <Helsinkiii>  ttf-liberation
[01:15] <Helsinkiii> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[01:15] <FloodBot4> Helsinkiii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <abcdef> m1dlg: can you help me ?
[01:15] <m1dlg> ron-l-j, thanks your google-fu is wise young padwan
[01:15] <m1dlg> thanks
[01:15] <bipolar> can anyone point me to where in the init scripts the fstab file gets parsed? I need to figure out why my network file systems are not getting mounted automaticly.
[01:15] <ron-l-j> lern quick I have
[01:16] <rainy-day> hi, is there a way to check from command line if a particular pkg is installed or not?
[01:16] <abcdef> i whant to install the latest version of OpenGL
[01:16] <acicula> rainy-day: apt-cache policy
[01:16] <acicula> !repeat |abcdef
[01:16] <truepurple> Would live on a hard drive require CD drive emulation that would require more resources?
[01:16] <rainy-day> acicula: thanks!
[01:16] <ron-l-j> rainy-day yes
[01:17] <bipolar> abcdef: I'm not sure what you mean by 'install opengl'.
[01:17] <acicula> truepurple: no it doesnt, could you tell us what you want to achieve
[01:17] <ron-l-j> rainy-day if you know the name of the package or some thing close to it you can use
[01:17] <abcdef> !ask | acicula
[01:17] <ron-l-j> rainy-day cd /
[01:17] <ron-l-j> rainy-day then locate
[01:17] <truepurple> I am trying to achieve a optiminal install of ubuntu
[01:18] <ron-l-j> rainy day then a space followed by the name of the package.
[01:18] <acicula> truepurple: insert a live cd and choose install
[01:18] <ron-l-j> rainy day what package are you looking for
[01:18] <Fizix> It seems Ubuntu Moblin Remix is another name for Ubuntu Netbook Remix, yes?
[01:18] <truepurple> Is there any advantage of netinstall besides space saving?
[01:18] <acicula> truepurple: no
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> Fizix, they are different
[01:18] <greezmunkey> truepurple: you could have installed it by now :)
[01:18] <truepurple> I need to know which one to install first
[01:19] <vistro> Okay, now this POS won't even take a f***ing ethernet connection! What gives?!
[01:19] <ron-l-j> Fizix   Moblin is an intel sponsored linux net book os
[01:19] <acicula> truepurple: they are one and the same, just the the way of getting there is slightly different
[01:19] <philipefarias> anyone knows how I put empathy back on the indicator-applet in karmic? after an empathy update (using its ppa), I have exit it (via Chat > Exit) and then it's gone from the indicator-applet
[01:19] <chilli0> Help , my sd card doesnt show up
[01:19] <goku> how do you play DVDs in linux?
[01:19] <goku> i have 9.1 installed
[01:19] <truepurple> Live being faster and writes less to the drive, where as netinstal is smaller?
[01:20] <bazhang> vistro, watch the language
[01:20] <ron-l-j> chillio i will see what I can find What os are you running ? UNR 9.10 ? ubuntu 9.10 what ?
[01:20] <vistro> bazhang watch the bugs
[01:20] <truepurple> That everything?
[01:20] <bastid_raZor> !dvd | goku
[01:20] <nomopofomo> hey, i'm trying to reinitialize my pgp installation... after i installed hp-setup, my pgp system stops working... all i know is that hp-setup imports a pgp key and that seems to screw it up... any idea how i can revert it back to normal?
[01:21] <Fizix> ron-l-j, I understand Moblin was an OS once owned by Intel now owned by the Linux Foundation by overseen by some select Intel employees, but according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix | is UNR just an Ubuntu build from Moblin's modified linux kernel?
[01:21] <vistro> First it was wireless, and now it won't take anything
[01:21] <JonathanEllis> I have installed a couple of kde applications onto my gnome based ubuntu and all of the combo boxes are black on black. How can I configure this?
[01:21] <truepurple> Would this mostly sum up all the differences between netinstall and live, that live is faster and writes less to the drive, where netinstall is smaller so takes up less space?
[01:22] <ron-l-j> Fizix yes tehy took the kernel and added the clutter desktop and program packages and a gnome desktop
[01:22] <acicula> truepurple: just the installation media size is smaller, both install the same operating system with the same software
[01:22] <vistro> the code has obviously not changed: there was no internet connection for canonical to release a faulty patch. The only thing that could have caused this was code that was intentionally made to become defective at a certain date and time.
[01:22] <acicula> truepurple: one lets you test the os without installing, the other(netinstall) doesnt
[01:23] <truepurple> That last bit doesnt tell me anything acicula
[01:23] <truepurple> Are you saying I got it wrong?
[01:23] <truepurple> If so, which part?
[01:23] <chilli0> Help , my sd card doesnt show up
[01:23] <Fizix> ron-l-j  Ok, so Fedora's Moblin Build uses XFCE (I believe), and UNR is Gnome. But I'm seeing "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" and "Ubuntu Moblin Remix" pop up seperately and I can't discern for the two if UNR uses Moblin's modified linux kernel too.
[01:23] <wojtek> hi
[01:24] <nomopofomo> hey, i'm trying to reinitialize my pgp installation... after i installed hp-setup, my pgp system stops working... all i know is that hp-setup imports a pgp key and that seems to screw it up... any idea how i can revert it back to normal?
[01:24] <Fizix> so what's the difference?
[01:24] <greezmunkey> vistro, what do you need help with?
[01:24] <truepurple> Think of it in terms of both being installed on a HDD
[01:24] <Steelclan> How do I use wIRC?
[01:24] <Steelclan> So I can OP myself?
[01:24] <user__> how do you uninstall adito?
[01:24] <ron-l-j> the moblin remix should have the moblin interface code in it
[01:24] <bazhang> Steelclan, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[01:25] <ron-l-j> Moblin UI is top notch but still very buggy
[01:25] <Steelclan> ...... I dont know.
[01:25] <Hans_> hello, i have a question
[01:25] <bazhang> Steelclan, then please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[01:25] <truepurple> Thinking in terms of both being installed on a hard drive, please tell me the major differences between live and netinstall.
[01:25] <acicula> truepurple: i did explain it in terms of installing on a hdd, they give the same result, for you i would recommend the normal install cd
[01:25] <truepurple> In the form of pros and cons
[01:25] <truepurple> Why?
[01:25] <ron-l-j> CHILLio what kind of hardware do you have and whay ubuntu are you running ?
[01:25] <Steelclan> btw Ubuntu is sexy!
[01:25] <Fizix> Ok, so the Moblin Remix has the Moblin UI instead of Ubuntu's GDE? Gotcha. I appreciate the insight ron-l-j, thank you.
[01:25] <truepurple> What advantage does netinstall have over live besides space saving?
[01:26] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[01:26] <user__> anyone know how to uninstall adito?
[01:26] <truepurple> If my hard drive is big enough, that bit of space is not anything to to be concerned over
[01:26] <Fizix> sudo apt-get remove adito ?
[01:26] <ron-l-j> sudo apt-get remove adito
[01:26] <ron-l-j> :D
[01:26] <acicula> truepurple: the difference is in the size of the installation media, ie cd, not hdd
[01:26] <Hans_> In ubuntu, i can either hear sound in firefox or in the system itself, but not in both at the same time, how do i fix that
[01:26] <user__> no that doesnt work
[01:26] <bipolar> has anyone else noticed that fstab lines marked with _netdev NEVER get mounted automaticly? I've greped though the init scripts and there is nothing there to mount them.
[01:26] <Helsinkiii> how can i delete files as root?
[01:27] <user__> i installed from tar package
[01:27] <Fizix> Hellie, rm
[01:27] <truepurple> It is in terms of HDD space if both would be installed on the hard drive!
[01:27] <greg_B> May I ask a question about, and does anyone have any experience with, *unclutter*?  (It's more about programs running as -root).
[01:27] <Fizix> rm --help should tell you what you need
[01:27] <truepurple> Why won't someone give me a straight answer, is it that noone knows?
[01:27] <acicula> i'm a firm believer in the stupidity of men, but i give and call troll
[01:27] <nomopofomo> hey, i'm trying to reinitialize my pgp installation... after i installed hp-setup, my pgp system stops working... all i know is that hp-setup imports a pgp key and that seems to screw it up... any idea how i can revert it back to normal?
[01:28] <Fizix> Helsikii: in command-line, type "rm --help" to explain how to remove files and folders; some may need root permission.
[01:28] <bazhang> truepurple, what is your exact issue; please clarify after reading the install documentation
[01:28] <bazhang> !install | truepurple
[01:28] <truepurple> I am trying to understand the differences between netinstall and live
[01:28] <greezmunkey> truepurple, you have been answered, several times.
[01:28] <bazhang> acicula, no need for that
[01:28] <truepurple> Assuming both are installed on a hard drive
[01:28] <ron-l-j> helsinkii sudo bash then rm followed by the name of the file or rmdir to remove the directory
[01:28] <bazhang> truepurple, read the docs linked above
[01:29] <bipolar> jeez... it's really broken.
[01:29] <truepurple> No, Ive barely received partial answers, and when I think I got it, I am told no I am wrong, then I ask for clarification and I get silence
[01:29] <Fizix> I can't wait until I get off of work! My friend at Best Buy zoinked a Netbook for $179 for me; I can't wait to try out Ubuntu Netbook Remix!
[01:29] <bazhang> truepurple, please inform yourself so you can ask better questions (see links above)
[01:29] <IdleOne> truepurple: netinstall allows you to pick and chose what you want to install ( downloading all the packages from the net )
[01:29] <truepurple> checking them out
[01:30] <greg_B> Why would "unclutter" run as user -root and supersede any parameters I try to give it for my user account?
[01:31] <zopiac> i inserted a Spore install disk and all I see on the drive is SPORE(TM) Install.app. There should be Install.exe and a bunch of files on it too; can anyone help?
[01:31] <ron-l-j> Moblin is an optimized open source Linux operating system project that delivers visually rich Internet and media experiences on Intel Atom Processor-based devices including handhelds MIDs, netbooks/nettops, in-vehicle infotainment (IVI), and embedded systems.
[01:31] <zopiac> ok, I can see the files in Thunar but not in Nautilus; weird
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> greg_B: looks like you have a MAC versnoi.
[01:31] <greezmunkey> zopiac, maybe wrong OS ?
[01:32] <zopiac> greezmunkey: its a Win/Mac disk
[01:32] <greg_B> er?
[01:32] <ron-l-j> Moblin is for mobile and internet devices and other embedded devices which netbook remix is for netbooks and notebooks. About Ubuntu Netbook Remix : Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) is a version of Ubuntu that has been optimized to enable it to work better on netbooks or devices with small screens with the Intel Atom processor.
[01:32] <Fizix> Question, I have both 'Terminal Server Client' and 'Remote Desktop Viewer' installed. All of my boxes are Linux so I'm fine using VNC, but when I want to hop onto a Windows box and use RDP, I have to use 'Terminal Server Client.' That's all well and good, but..
[01:32] <Fizix> ...why are the only protocols RDP and RDP version 5 with VNC and SSH greyed out?
[01:33] <ron-l-j> MOBLIN MANY PORTABLE DEVICES AKA ARM AND ATOM
[01:33] <bazhang> ron-l-j, no caps
[01:33] <Fizix> ron-l-j Ahhh ok, thank you for clearing some more of that up.
[01:33] <ron-l-j> UNR OPTIMIZED FOR NETBOOKS WITH ATOM PROCESSOR
[01:33] <ron-l-j> OK
[01:33] <truepurple> So with live, you couldn't update it?
[01:33] <acicula> Fizix: windows doesnt support ssh/vnc?
[01:33] <ron-l-j> just giving a straight answer
[01:33] <greg_B> Pardon me, but I don't understand MAC versnoi.
[01:33] <ron-l-j> :D
[01:33] <uthandsome> 222
[01:33] <IdleOne> truepurple: update what?
[01:33] <philipefarias> someone knows how to put empathy back on the indicator-applet in karmic?
[01:34] <acicula> truepurple: no you can not update live cd's
[01:34] <Fizix> acicula, I never tried, I just default to RDP. I wonder why my Terminal Server Client won't let me chose the other protocols, why are they grayed out?
[01:34] <nomopofomo> hey, i'm trying to reinitialize my pgp installation... after i installed hp-setup, my pgp system stops working... all i know is that hp-setup imports a pgp key and that seems to screw it up... any idea how i can revert it back to normal?
[01:34] <bastid_raZor> greg_B: .app is a mac format.j
[01:34] <truepurple> I am talking about live on a hard drive
[01:34] <nomopofomo> soooomeooooooone
[01:34] <acicula> Fizix: well windows doesnt support vnc/ssh unless you install these
[01:34] <nomopofomo> screw you guys i'm switching to debian
[01:34] <acicula> !language | nomopofomo
[01:34] <IdleOne> truepurple: once you install ubuntu from the live cd to the hd, yes you will be able to update
[01:34] <greg_B> so you believe I have installed a version that is not correct for this machine?
[01:35] <nomopofomo> !language | acicula
[01:35] <Fizix> lulz
[01:35] <ron-l-j> truepurple maybe you should make a custom live usb with all the packages you want in it and ready to go :D
[01:35] <truepurple> Installing live cd to hard drive means turning it into netinstall?
[01:35] <acicula> dont abuse the bot nomopofomo
[01:35] <greg_B> What's the best *book* for learning Ubuntu from the perspective of a clever but novice user?
[01:35] <zopiac> nomopofomo: just because you arent getting help right now doesnt mean there is no help out there. Have you tried posting on ubuntuforums.org?
[01:35] <IdleOne> truepurple: you smell of troll now
[01:35] <nomopofomo> zopiac, the forums move too quickly
[01:35] <zopiac> its how i got most of my help
[01:36] <truepurple> Thats extremely rude and trolish idle
[01:36] <bazhang> truepurple, no of course not.
[01:36] <bazhang> truepurple, please stop repeating and inform yourself.
[01:36] <Fizix> I have made no modifications to Terminal Server Client so why are the non-RDP protocols grayed out? I'd rather just use one client for VNC, SSH & RDP rather than flipping between 'Terminal Server Client' and 'Remote Desktop Viewer.'
[01:36] <truepurple> I read install pages, they tell me how to install the programs, not the major differences between the versions
[01:37] <truepurple> So reading those pages have not informed my inquiry any
[01:37] <ron-l-j> truperple Unetbootin uses netinstall to boot and links to a live image
[01:38] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  truepurple here is a comprehensive guide.
[01:38] <{}zombie{}> what is wrong with this fstab line?  disk won't mount:
[01:38] <bazhang> truepurple, you can get the minimal iso (9mb) and use that; or the many other options listed on the install link.
[01:38] <ron-l-j> true purple you could make a custom iso to mount and run off your hard drive but thats all I know
[01:38] <{}zombie{}> shit, can't paste it, irc thinks it's a command
[01:39] <bazhang> {}zombie{}, please watch the language
[01:39] <DaZ> ({}zombie{} spacebar
[01:39] <acicula> {}zombie{}: just put a space first, then paste
[01:39] <ron-l-j> here is the custom live building page for ubuntu ttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[01:39] <{}zombie{}> http://pastebin.com/d1db10e45
[01:39] <truepurple> Unetbootin does not have all those options you speak of, just different versions and live or netinstall
[01:40] <Fizix> Can anyone recommend a comprehensive, all-in-one remote desktop viewer that will allow me to use any protocol?
[01:40] <rstob911> truepurple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHYKLlc4kXw
[01:40] <bazhang> rstob911, what is that
[01:40] <bazhang> rstob911, dont paste random youtube stuff in here
[01:41] <{}zombie{}>  /dev/sdd1	/media/LaCie_ize	ntfs-3g	auto, users, uid=1001, gid=100, dmask=027, fmask=137, utf8	0	2
[01:41] <Fizix> This channel seems a bit more unwieldy than most days, no?
[01:41] <IdleOne> bazhang: actually that is a helpful link heh
[01:41] <rstob911> bazhang: it is from ubuntu sorry
[01:41] <{}zombie{}> i get an error saying /dev/sdd1 not found in fstab or mtab
[01:41] <bazhang> IdleOne, really, nice :)
[01:42] <bazhang> rstob911, okay my bad
[01:42] <goku> when i try and play a DVD is said "you might not have permission to play DVD"
[01:42] <silktaco> is there anyone here proficient with wpa_supplicant.  I'm having a hard time debugging.   I can scan the network, see the AP/net i want to interface with, the debug reports it's associating, but it never goes furhter than that...disconnects and then tries again endlessly. Help!
[01:42] <Iowan> Fizix: I sure hope so...
[01:43] <vistro> greezmonkey I have had a computer continually go south over the past two days. It won't attach to a wireless network. It will see them, but it will not attach to them. Now it won't even attach to an ethernet connection. The OS is going bad fast.
[01:43] <MTeck> I'm trying ot setup a Canon iP2600 printer in 9.10. It's really weird because Ubuntu thinks the printer is functioning correctly, the printer status light starts blinking like paper is coming out, but nothing prints. When it thinks the page is done it says it printed fine and the light stops blinking... any ideas how to fix this?
[01:43] <ron-l-j> zombie is it an ntfs partition
[01:43] <{}zombie{}> yes ron-l-j
[01:43] <silktaco> vistro:  sounds like the prob I have.
[01:43] <ron-l-j> zombie lets try to force mout it
[01:44] <vistro> silktaco what is your mobo?
[01:44] <{}zombie{}> ok
[01:44] <greezmunkey> vistro, what makes you think it is the OS that is bad?
[01:44] <{}zombie{}> just add -f in there ron-l-j ?
[01:44] <ron-l-j> zombie lets try to fix it now sudo ntfsfix /dev/yourdeviceandpartition
[01:44] <box> hey, what's the easiest way to get a version of ffmpeg that can encode mp3s?
[01:44] <vistro> those cards worked just fine in Window$
[01:44] <rstob911> MTeck: there is a driver called turboprint it is for cannon printers
[01:44] <greezmunkey> vistro, are you having other isses as well?
[01:44] <intern> #pauldotcom
[01:44] <silktaco> 2.6.31-15
[01:44] <box> i compiled ffmpeg from source and now i can't reinstall mencoder =P
[01:44] <vistro> Nope. All off these problems happen on one computer. the same cards work just fine on my laptop
[01:45] <MTeck> rstob911: thanks, I'll try it
[01:45] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: successfully processed
[01:45] <ron-l-j> Box http://www.medibuntu.org/ command line install to ply almost anything
[01:45] <MTeck> rstob911: is it in the repos at all?
[01:46] <ron-l-j> zombie good :D
[01:46] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: but still not mounted... same error
[01:46] <rstob911> MTeck: no pm me and i will explain
[01:46] <ron-l-j> zombie hold on now we will force it
[01:46] <Fizix> I know I can remote desktop into linux machines via SSH or VNC, but can I connect via RDP? I don't believe so, at least, not without some modifications?
[01:46] <Out_Cold> any ideas why this doesn't chown?? $ sudo chown -R luckytux:luckytux /home/
[01:46] <Out_Cold> chown: cannot access `/home/luckytux/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:46] <greezmunkey> vistro, sounds like you are using either pcmcia, or usb adapters, which one?
[01:46] <truepurple> That Utub link video doesn't run for me, but based on the title of the video, Its hard to imagine that it has any bearing
[01:47] <brmassa> guys.... i want to FORMAT my secondaray HD. how can i do this?
[01:47] <vistro> Both
[01:47] <bastid_raZor> brmassa: use gparted
[01:47] <greezmunkey> vistro, ok, where would you like to start?
[01:47] <Out_Cold> brmassa, the easiest way for a noob is to install gparted
[01:47] <vistro> Linksys USB, and something that starts with "at" on the pci
[01:47] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: hmm that's interesting for me to see this from you
[01:48] <Out_Cold> why so?
[01:48] <ron-l-j> zombie sudo mount -t ntfs /your hd/your partition -o
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: since I recently put Mandriva One 2010 Gnome on here, and been trying to get it using my seperate /home properly with the user,  the one I used in Ubuntu 9.10
[01:48] <brmassa> bastid_raZor, Out_Cold: it can be used on a running system or i need to install ubuntu all over again?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: and I got a similar issue to yours, but in Mandriva
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: or the same issue even
[01:48] <Out_Cold> brmassa, just installand use
[01:49] <truepurple> Would people please tell me what positives and negatives live has compared to netinstall when they are both installed on a hard drive, anything you know.
[01:49] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: requires an option?
[01:49] <truepurple> Besides the size thing
[01:49] <silktaco> ALL:  anyone feel like taking a look at my wpa_supplicant logs to tell me what the h*** the problemo is
[01:49] <Out_Cold> truepurple, live is it's own OS on the CD
[01:49] <ron-l-j> zombie option is force
[01:49] <lstarnes> truepurple: the netinstall downloads packages from the internet when installing and requires internet access
[01:49] <ron-l-j> zombie sudo mount -t ntfs /your hd/your partition -o force
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: So which home are you trying to chown?
[01:49] <opop> zombie option?  is it time to break out the shotguns and canned goods?
[01:49] <Out_Cold> lots
[01:50] <ron-l-j> use the force
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: from what distro or whatever?
[01:50] <Out_Cold> 9.10
[01:50] <brmassa> Out_Cold: and how it will be mounted after that? shuold i config manually fstab or something?
[01:50] <{}zombie{}> lol opop
[01:50] <Out_Cold> brmassa, depends on what you want to do
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: the home  your trying to chown is from which distro,  and  you want to use it with which distro?
[01:50] <truepurple> Thats the instillation, not how they run differently
[01:51] <truepurple> Eh, I guess I will just ask on the forum
[01:51] <Out_Cold> sebsebseb, i keep my home directory in /home/ not /home/user/ because I am always trying out different distros
[01:51] <truepurple> Thanks anyway for the effort
[01:51] <keith_> i install 7.10 oem then in the middle upgraded to 8.04lts before rebooting now what is the default id password for ubuntu me 8.04lts?
[01:52] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: do you mean /dev/sdd1, or /media/mountpoint?
[01:52] <brmassa> Out_Cold: well.. my 2nd HD is ReiserFS. but since the guy is in jail and there was not much effort to continue, its much safer to migrate it to ext4 (and later to btrfs maybe).
[01:52] <ron-l-j> zombie try media and it will mount like a file
[01:52] <Out_Cold> truepurple, what are you trying to accomplish?? just saying "these people can't help" doesn't solve problems
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: So  you recently put Ubuntu 9.10 on there?  and before that you were running?
[01:52] <brmassa> Out_Cold: so im making a backup of all data and i want to format it as ext4 and automatically mount it during boot, as always..
[01:52] <keith_> is there a way to find out  what id and password are now?
[01:53] <bazhang> keith_, ubuntu me ?
[01:53] <opop> i hear karmic is a disaster?
[01:53] <manas> hi
[01:53] <manas> i have a problem
[01:53] <opop> between arch and karmic, should i pick arch
[01:53] <keith_> muslam edition
[01:53] <opop> ?
[01:53] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: this .gvfs  maybe it messes chowns up, I don't know
[01:53] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: failed to access mountpoint /media/LaCie_ize: No such file or directory
[01:53] <sebsebseb> opop: depends on what kind of user you are, and what you want to do
[01:53] <manas> i do not see the wifi icon on my panel anymore
[01:53] <keith_> i putting a pc toghter for a moss
[01:53] <ron-l-j> ok mount from /dev
[01:54] <sebsebseb> opop: and yes Karmic is a bit of a disaster really, hence why I will be using Mandriva One 2010  Gnome for now instead
[01:54] <Out_Cold> i am gonna look into it.. it may be ubuntu related.. but i've used my /home for gentoo, debian, and ubuntu
[01:54] <sebsebseb> opop: on this computer, other one will  stay Ubuntu 9.04 for now
[01:54] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: i did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /media/LaCie_ize -o force
[01:54] <mcurran> what's a good nmap command
[01:54] <opop> ooooookay.
[01:54] <manas> anyway to get it back there
[01:54] <manas> ??
[01:54] <opop> hey, thanks, sebsebseb.
[01:54] <ron-l-j> and you where in the / directory when you ran that command
[01:54] <acicula>  mcurran maybe ask that in a more apropriate channel
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: yes I am wondering if there is an issue,  once  an Ubuntu 9.10 /home is being used in another distro
[01:55] <Out_Cold> brmassa, you don't have to reinstall to auto mount it.. just format it and then add the drive to your fstab.. but do back it up if you don't wanna cry
[01:55] <mcurran> what is your problem acicula
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: or in your case once some other distros /home is turned into an Ubuntu 9.10 home?
[01:55] <Out_Cold> sebsebseb, well ubuntu created a /home/user/
[01:55] <keith_> anyone default id and password for 8.04lts?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> opop: Ubuntu 10.04 should be good though, it's also the next LTS, that's released at the end of April
[01:56] <sebsebseb> !10.04 |  opop
[01:56] <bazhang> keith_, there is none
[01:56] <greezmunkey> mcurran, slow down there chainsaw, nmap has it's own support structure.
[01:56] <acicula> keith_: there isnt one, its what you set it to during installation
[01:56] <Iowan> manas: You mean the power bars? Does it look like computers
[01:56] <ron-l-j> zimbie add the 3g to your command sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /your hd/your partition -o force
[01:56] <keith_> oh wow i didnot set antthing
[01:56] <sebsebseb> opop: oh that factoid used to have the announcement video link
[01:56] <brmassa> Out_Cold: right. i was wondering about several and complicated steps. thanks
[01:56] <Out_Cold> brmassa, like what?
[01:57] <keith_> well i guess i reinstall then
[01:57] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: same error
[01:57] <acicula> keith_: you installed a previous version and then updated, the username and password is set during install before it is updated
[01:57] <Out_Cold> brb gotta find my smokes
[01:57] <ron-l-j> zombie sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[01:57] <epinky> keith_: Username: user Password: user
[01:57] <keith_> i try it it donot work
[01:57] <ron-l-j> zombie then run it again
[01:57] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: i have it already :(
[01:58] <keith_> thats what i did user user
[01:58] <brmassa> Out_Cold: i dont know... know im sure its "unmount + gparted + fstab + mount/restart" it sounds too logical and obvious... hehe
[01:58] <ron-l-j> zombie ok
[01:58] <SageX> os[Linux 2.6.31-14-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 55.3% free] disk[Total: 1.3TB, 66.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[01:58] <keith_> wow this has never happened i me befor
[01:59] <keith_>  it a new one on me
[01:59] <ron-l-j> oumount is unmout but why call gparted when parted is in your command path anyway ?
[01:59] <keith_> ill just reinstall  thanks
[01:59] <spccomputer> หวัสดีคับ
[01:59] <ron-l-j> g parted is graphical parted
[01:59] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: could there be some spacing/tab errors in my fstab?  part of the error is that those lines in fstab are "bad"
[01:59] <brmassa> Out_Cold: just another question: on my last ubuntu install, i didnt specified a mount dir to this HD. As consequence, its not listed on fstab. how to i know what options should i include?
[01:59] <mackie> what's up.  if i wanted to set up a local webserver basically to run some local php/mysql applications... could I do it with Ubuntu (not Ubuntu Server) 9.10?
[01:59] <ron-l-j> use parted --man
[02:00] <{}zombie{}> watdee khap spccomputer
[02:00] <acicula> mackie: yup
[02:00] <mackie> ok awesome
[02:00] <box> god why does pitivi suck so much?
[02:01] <mackie> acicula: how can I go about doing that? :)
[02:01] <box> how do i get it to output mp3 audio?
[02:01] <bruce89> because you have unrelistic expectations?
[02:01] <spccomputer> เปล่าเลย EngLish นี่
[02:01] <Out_Cold> brmassa, copy similar options from the / drive
[02:01] <SageX> os[Linux 2.6.31-14-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 55.3% free] disk[Total: 1.3TB, 66.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[02:01] <bruce89> !th | spccomputer
[02:01] <bazhang> !th | spccomputer
[02:01] <acicula> SageX: why are you pasting that here
[02:01] <ron-l-j> thats man parted
[02:01] <daysaver> hi
[02:01] <bazhang> spccomputer, /join #ubuntu-th  English here
[02:02] <acicula> mackie: install php/apache?
[02:02] <ron-l-j> ok your fstab is in /etc/fstab
[02:02] <keith_> i got it it took OEM is defualt for id and user for password
[02:02] <Out_Cold> brmassa, and you shouldn't have to restart for it to be mounted.. you only need to restart if you add to fstab and you don't use the mount command after
[02:02] <spccomputer> Ok  i know
[02:02] <ron-l-j> you can cat fstab
[02:02] <epinky> keith_: maybe you should do this : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[02:02] <mackie> OK I'm new to Linux
[02:02] <keith_>  make note of that see ya good luck all
[02:02] <mackie> the default repository doesnt have mysql or php
[02:02] <daysaver> to install php/apache use a program called xampp
[02:02] <brmassa> Out_Cold: sounds pretty sane to me! thanks man. great great help. its those things that i was once good at, but after so many years without using these tools, we got rusted....
[02:02] <some_random> How can I upgrade to the latest version of libboost in 8.10 ?
[02:02] <ron-l-j> here is a link for understanging fstab you can learn more from it than I could spend an hour telling you
[02:02] <acicula> mackie: how'd you figure that
[02:03] <mackie> well when i go to install applications
[02:03] <mackie> php, nor mysql are there when i search
[02:03] <ron-l-j>  zombie http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[02:03] <{}zombie{}> thanks ron-l-j , back to the drawing board :(
[02:03] <nickkontos> hello
[02:03] <mackie> hi
[02:03] <Out_Cold> brmassa, i forget how you get the UUID but I think you can just use the /dev location instead
[02:03] <spccomputer> I install Appache2 Webserver Because this plobplam
[02:03] <acicula> mackie: apt-cache search php
[02:04] <acicula> mackie: turns up enough results for me
[02:04] <mackie> right, but if i'm brand new to linux
[02:04] <acicula> !lamp | mackie
[02:04] <daysaver> xampp for php
[02:04] <mackie> how would I even think to go to that?
[02:04] <ron-l-j> zombie dont give up your learning alot and you can use cat and gedit to read your fstab like sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:04] <B4R74zy> plz go 2          http://sites.google.com/site/howtowinafight             & click on ads ;      thank you
[02:04] <spccomputer> http://localhost/      Ok
[02:04] <bipolar> brmassa: Out_Cold: blkid
[02:04] <mackie> That's what I find disheartening about Linux...
[02:04] <acicula> mackie: well you want php, that sortof implies some skills beyond being able to click a button ;)
[02:04] <mackie> of course it does
[02:04] <mackie> but i'm coming from windows
[02:05] <spccomputer> http://localhost/phpmyadmin/     Notwork
[02:05] <daysaver> does anyone know of any channels good for programming chats?
[02:05] <Out_Cold> thanks bipolar i knew it was easy but not something i use often
[02:05] <mackie> where you haven't needed to use the command prompt since windows 98
[02:05] <ron-l-j> unless you want to use CGI scripts then you can php by copyand paste all day :D
[02:05] <mac`> hello all, having issues, cannot seem to install ssh, has been obsoleted , or follow pkg replace it: openssh-client
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> mackie, in 9.10 i just tested - found with both Software Center and Synaptic (both GUI apps)
[02:05] <ron-l-j> are you serving web pages
[02:05] <nickkontos> can somebody please tell me why i get this (in terminal) "Segmentation fault" a and then a crush (the program closes) after i try to run amsn and sometimes after using firefox and trying to watch videos?
[02:05] <acicula> mackie: check the link posted on how to setup php/apache
[02:05] <mackie> Zykotick, what did you search?
[02:05] <Out_Cold> daysaver, there are C+, php, python and any other channels you want
[02:06] <acicula> mackie: and to compensate they reintroduced an extensive shell prompt in win 2008 ;)
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> mackie, mysql & php
[02:06] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: yeah, i made those entries myself with gedit after reading up on fstab and ntfs-3g, but don't know why it's broken... thanks for your help anyway though!
[02:06] <ron-l-j> nickkontos bad firefox code or bad flashplayer
[02:06] <mackie> let me see..
[02:06] <brmassa> bipolar: thanks man!
[02:06] <daysaver> Out_Cold how do I get to them
[02:06] <bipolar> brmassa: Out_Cold: np
[02:06] <nickkontos> what about the amsn ron-l-j?
[02:06] <Out_Cold> daysaver, type /join #python or something similar
[02:06] <mackie> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu... should be up and running in 10 mins.
[02:06] <ron-l-j> zombie I was hoping for a easy fix but now its time to dig deep :D
[02:06] <daysaver> Out_Cold thanks
[02:07] <donm> mackie: what version?
[02:07] <bruce89> !cli | mackie
[02:07] <ron-l-j> zombie use man parted to start cuting your drives by hand
[02:07] <mackie> 9.10
[02:07] <Out_Cold> daysaver, there is also a advanced listing command you can get help by typing /msg alis help
[02:08] <{}zombie{}> ron-l-j: O_o
[02:08] <spccomputer> Ok Thcnk
[02:08] <ron-l-j> nickontos   a segmentation fault is bad code
[02:08] <jschall> didn't windoze introduce a new CLI?
[02:08] <ron-l-j> a segment of the source code is bad
[02:08] <jschall> ron-l-j: no.
[02:08] <daysaver> Out_Cold thanks as you can tell not very experienced with linux or xchat
[02:08] <ron-l-j> no
[02:08] <jschall> ron-l-j: oh, i guess so, kind of
[02:08] <ron-l-j> ?
[02:09] <daysaver> I am just looking for a good place to chat about programming in linux
[02:09] <ron-l-j> the interped or compiled code that is running has failed
[02:09] <Out_Cold> daysaver, we all gotta start somewhere
[02:09] <ak5> hello, I need someones .Xdefaults please. I need to write Chinese (Simplified) in URxvt. Thanks
[02:09] <ron-l-j> you can use a debugger set with breakpoints to locate it but it may take hours
[02:09] <jschall> ron-l-j: it just sounded like a very misleading comment. a segmentation fault indicates that the program is trying to access memory that doesn't belong to it.
[02:09] <ron-l-j> I have done it in C and C++
[02:09] <Trustisaweakness> in order to get the new firefox  do I have to install  awebbrowser package or is there a real firefox package to install?
[02:09] <Out_Cold> daysaver, which language??
[02:09] <ron-l-j> using gdb
[02:09] <daysaver> I am doing a degree in CS with only novice amounts of programming experience
[02:10] <ron-l-j> and G++ to compile my own code
[02:10] <mackie> daysaver what university?
[02:10] <greezmunkey> jschall, a new cli? you mean theyr'e gonna update cp/m?
[02:10] <daysaver> Sheffield Hallam
[02:10] <donm> mackie: okay, maybe software center or whatever it's called will find it then.  but if not go to System/Administration/Synaptic and search for things there.  you'll find games and applications in the normal add/remove app, but libraries and languages and stuff you normlaly have to go to synaptic or use apt-get at the command line
[02:10] <mackie> ok great
[02:10] <mackie> thanks donm
[02:10] <epinky> daysaver: join #linux
[02:10] <jschall> daysaver:  for coding, you want the dev channel of the project you're going to be working on, or you want #c/c++/java/whatever
[02:10] <mackie> you were helpful... very helpful
[02:10] <mackie> i appreciate it
[02:11] <nickkontos> how do i fix this?...
[02:11] <sakuramboo> i recently did a fresh install of 9.10 and the only major bug ive come across is that there seems to be a problem with the sdl libraries, playing audio is just fine, but when i play a game, the audio will be fine for a while, then it will turn to static, i tried replacing libsdl-*-alsa with libsdl-*-all and later with libsdl-*-pulse and the problem continues
[02:11] <jschall> nickkontos: fix what?
[02:11] <ron-l-j> try Python :D
[02:11] <ak5> hello, I need someones .Xdefaults please. I need to write Chinese (Simplified) in URxvt. Thanks
[02:11] <nickkontos> firefox and amsn
[02:11] <Out_Cold> well daysaver there is almost every programming language with a channel here.. just gotta find the right names
[02:11] <c3l> I want to install linux next to my already installed windows 7. though windows is already using 4(!!) partitions. and all of them seems to be used by the system. does anyone know if any of those partitions is unneccesary. and how will the system work if the EFI partition is removed? (it contains the bootloader according to wiki)
[02:11] <nickkontos> should I reinstall?
[02:11] <daysaver> thanks!!! really helpful
[02:11] <sakuramboo> i even tried modifying the /etc/openal/alsoftrc file to have openal use alsa and later pulse as the backend, still the problem continues
[02:11] <Trustisaweakness> in order to get the new firefox  do I have to install  awebbrowser package or is there a real firefox package to install?
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> sakuramboo, not that i "really" recommend it - but I had the same problems with games in 9.10 as well - removed pulse and games run fine now
[02:12] <donm> mackie: sure.  just don't get discouraged with linux ;)
[02:12] <duckinator> i'm used to working in the console for configuring (usually use archlinux), so does anyone have a link to a page with info on useful admin-related programs, since i have no clue where they are (and in some cases what they're called) on ubuntu? :)
[02:12] <Out_Cold> c3l, there is a trick... one of those partitions should be a extended partition... so shrink one of the parts inside the extended
[02:12] <ron-l-j> nickontos yes go to synaptic and completly remove firefox then install and make sure you go to adobe and install the flashplayer 8.04+ .deb
[02:12] <sakuramboo> ZykoticK9: i really dont want to go to that extent, might there be a better solution?
[02:12] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9, what did you do to replace it?
[02:12] <mackie> donm: it's tough when you have a lot of people who have a chip on their shoulder about things and are less than helpful.
[02:12] <acicula> duckinator: apt-get, vim ?
[02:12] <jschall> nickkontos: ok, what is happening exactly? you're getting a segmentation fault, but when does it usually happen? randomly?
[02:12] <daysaver> while I am here, I am running gnewsense from a Virtual machine does anyone know how to access files in windows
[02:13] <ron-l-j> I am out be back later :D
[02:13] <duckinator> acicula: nah, i mean for adjusting video settings, audio settings, network settings, stuff like that
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, this is what i did http://paste.ubuntu.com/329911/
[02:13] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[02:13] <sebsebseb> daysaver: Ubuntu is your host?
[02:13] <sekyourbox> anyone here get devede to work on ps2?
[02:13] <daysaver> I guess
[02:13] <nickkontos> in firefox usually after i try to open a certain webpage that contains flash video
[02:13] <sebsebseb> daysaver: well it is or it isn't
[02:13] <jschall> daysaver: the operating system running on the computer is what?
[02:13] <donm> mackie: definitely.  entire essays have probably been written about that
[02:14] <nickkontos> and now - today- while trying to open amsn
[02:14] <mackie> is that so?  would you have an example of it?
[02:14] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: you can also try kmess
[02:14] <jschall> daysaver: in virtualization, you have a "host" and "guest" OS. what are the host and guest OSes?
[02:14] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9, wow thanks! I've saved that for future reference.
[02:14] <daysaver> I am running windows at the moment, I am running gnewsence in a virtual machine
[02:14] <nickkontos> it just doesn't open
[02:14] <jschall> nickkontos: try disabling flash
[02:14] <greezmunkey> Remove/Uninstall Pulse Audio
[02:14] <greezmunkey> $ sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[02:14] <greezmunkey> $ sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui alsa-utils alsa-oss linux-sound-base alsamixergui $ sudo apt-get install esound esound-clients esound-common libesd-alsa0 gnome-alsamixer
[02:14] <greezmunkey> Remove/Uninstall Pulse Audio
[02:14] <FloodBot4> greezmunkey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <daysaver> Sun VirtualBox
[02:14] <greezmunkey> $ sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[02:14] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: and there's also a closed source freeware app made by one guy written in Java called Mercury Messenger that can do most of the Live Messenger features, and some of it's own stuff
[02:14] <bulletproof> is it posiible to expand the diskspace of a wubi-installation?
[02:15] <ZykoticK9> sakuramboo, do you happen to be using Intel HDA audio?  to check use "lspci | grep -i audio" -- someone else with Intel HDA was also have the same problem several days ago.
[02:15]  * greezmunkey ducks Floodbot
[02:15] <sakuramboo> ZykoticK9: no, sound blaster audigy platinum
[02:15] <nickkontos> thanks, i'll try that :)
[02:15] <c3l> Out_Cold, i checked, all of the partitions that windows has created is physical
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> sakuramboo, k - i was just curious - i didn't think the problem was limited to Intel HDA, good to know
[02:16] <jschall> daysaver: the easiest way to do it in general is to use a filesharing system like windows' SMB (accessed by SAMBA) or NFS
[02:16] <Out_Cold> c3l, add another hard drive??
[02:16] <nickkontos> the problem is, I need flash, and chromium is crashing also...
[02:16] <nickkontos> *also crushing
[02:17] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: try getting people that you know using Jabber :)  it's a nice open source network.   a gmail.com/googlemail.com  email address is needed for that, for example, and  then on Windows I would use the in built chat or  the Google Talk program
[02:17] <gsl0utah> I am having difficulties choosing which VNC to use. I have an ubuntu laptop that I want to use to connect to my home ubuntu desktop and I also have a windows XP work machine that I want to use to connect to my home ubuntu desktop. I originally tried TightVNC but I was having polling issues with the video. FreeNX or UltraVNC or RealVNC?
[02:18] <sakuramboo> i also increased the resample quality to src-sinc-best-quality and also tried oss as the backend and nothing worked
[02:18] <TheCheeze> ZykoticK9, also happened to me with Intel HD Audio, but commenting out that line still fixed it
[02:18] <jschall> nickkontos: your browsers are probably crashing because of flash. you should try reinstalling flash.
[02:18] <c3l> Out_Cold, cant, its a netbook =)
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> TheCheeze, commenting out what line?
[02:18] <some_random> I'm having a problem mounting an encfs filesystem on 8.10 - it was created on another machine
[02:18] <some_random> anyone know?
[02:18] <donm> mackie: not off the top of my head.  but "in the beginning was the command line" talks about it a bit.  Acually, if you haven't read that, you might like it.
[02:19] <TheCheeze> oh, i thought you were telling him to comment out the last line in the conf file. i didnt scroll up to read his problem
[02:19] <mackie> ok ill check it out
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !vnc > gsl0utah
[02:19] <mackie> i just beat super mario bros wii?
[02:19] <mackie> oh
[02:19] <mackie> no i guess not
[02:19] <TheCheeze> oh, i thought you were telling him to comment out the last line in the conf file. i didnt scroll up to read his problem <-- ZykoticK9
[02:20] <Out_Cold> c3l, this is just theory, but you could get a usb external drive, back up your largest partition, make an extended partition, put 2 new partitions in it, replace the windoze, then make a new linux partition
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> TheCheeze, are you saying you have PulseAudio working properly with games with IntelHDA?  if so - how?  what conf file?
[02:21] <TheCheeze> nvidia HDA, but same problems
[02:21] <Out_Cold> c3l, also one of those partitions may be useless... might want to look into it
[02:21] <bulletproof> do anybody know how to expand the diskspace of a wubi-installation?
[02:21] <TheCheeze> and i switched my sound drivers to ALSA because i couldnt get pulse to work right for me very well ZykoticK9
[02:21] <kmc> i have a USB stick that boots a bunch of linux distros and i'm trying to add ubuntu.  i coped over the iso along with the vmlinuz and initrd.lz, and pointed syslinux at the latter.  when it boots it tries to mount /dev/sda, rather than /dev/sda1, and fails to find the iso
[02:21] <kmc> any ideas how to fix this?
[02:21] <sebsebseb> bulletproof: no and also  in the long run real partitions would be better, and there's a way to convert a wubi install into a real partition
[02:22] <c3l> Out_Cold, yes, i strongly believe that one of them is really uselsess, though i dont know which one. id hope tahat someone knew ;)
[02:22] <nickkontos> reinstalling amsn didn't fix the problem...
[02:22] <Out_Cold> c3l, try joining a windows 7 chat? or explore the drives
[02:22] <bulletproof> oh, lets hear?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: re installing a program,  won't do much good
[02:22] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: you need to make sure  the program user data, is gone as well
[02:22] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: otherwise it will just use the same settings as before
[02:22] <sakuramboo> TheCheeze: did you do that in /etc/openal/alsoftrc ?
[02:23] <Out_Cold> c3l, i think that the last time i seen that setup one of the parts was a secondary "media" OS
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> bulletproof, if you're interested in converting Wubi to actual install see lvmpvm at http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[02:23] <sobersabre> acicula: are you there ?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: when I say gone I mean deleted  from home, or  moved some where else inside home,  just not in the main folder,  hidden .folders yep
[02:23] <bulletproof> ok great new info, thanks!
[02:23] <nickkontos> ok, i'll try this...
[02:23] <ak5> mingdao: so what should i do?
[02:23] <c3l> Out_Cold, do you know any win7 chat?
[02:24] <sobersabre> I am trying to understand: If I'm say using sun's amd64 based system, it can reach upto 64 cores. and how well would it work comparing to solaris ?
[02:24] <sobersabre> any ideas ?
[02:24] <Out_Cold> c3l,  #windows_7
[02:24] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: well moving to the trash can would also count as moving of course
[02:24] <c3l> k=)
[02:25] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: I am not sure if that channel exists
[02:25] <sebsebseb> c3l: ^^^^
[02:25] <kmc> there's #windows
[02:25] <sebsebseb> !windows |  c3l  Out_Cold
[02:25] <Out_Cold> i got it off of the alis search
[02:25] <TheCheeze> sakuramboo, no, i went into the menu editor and unhid system - prefferences - multimedia devices
[02:25] <c3l> sebsebseb, oh :D
[02:25] <TheCheeze> sakuramboo, multimedia systems selector*
[02:25] <sebsebseb> kmc: it has two of these ##
[02:26] <sebsebseb> kmc: it has two #
[02:26] <nickkontos> ok, when i renamed /home/*user*/.amsn i got to the amsn login screen, and then when i put my email and password it crushes right after i press conect
[02:26] <Out_Cold> sebsebseb, do /msg alis list *windows_7*
[02:26] <nickkontos> i mean, imidiately
[02:26] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: re nameing would also work I guess instead of moving
[02:26] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: I think I have been told before that  AMSN is buggy
[02:27] <Out_Cold> and telepathy is lacking also IMO
[02:27] <nickkontos> well, i'm using it 3 months now
[02:27] <TheCheeze> pidgin ftw
[02:27] <nickkontos> didn;t have a problem
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: Could do, but  I am not that interested in Vista version 2
[02:27] <Out_Cold> was not interested in the first one either lol
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: and haven't used a final release yet
[02:28] <sebsebseb> TheCheeze: yep Pidgin :)
[02:30] <ries> hey guys, how can I remove scrollkeeper? it hogs up my CPU and many others on the net? it seems to be of not to much use for people that get bugged by this system
[02:30] <ries> or is there a replacement?
[02:30] <Out_Cold> are you talking about your chat client?
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: who?
[02:31] <Out_Cold> ries
[02:31] <ries> Out_Cold: Hmm... no about the daemon that runs on the background
[02:31] <danielsevigny> Good evening everyone. Is there a way of installing the 32bit version of python2.6 in Karmic 64bit? I need it for some applications that I run. The 64version doesn't work.
[02:31] <danielsevigny> and by work I mean with those applications.
[02:32] <ZykoticK9> danielsevigny, check out getlibs program (download from http://frozenfox.freehostia.com/cappy/getlibs-all.deb) it allows you to install 32bit libs on 64bit systems.  good luck.
[02:33] <ries> Out_Cold: I am talking about this problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596182
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> danielsevigny, ummm, i guess python really isn't a lib though - so not sure that will help...
[02:33] <myfirstlinux_> i am brand new to linux. what is a good way to get started?
[02:34] <greezmunkey> myfirstlinux_, you're doing it :)
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> myfirstlinux_, i'd start by trying to figure out Linux ways of doing everything you've done with other OSs - web, games, graphics, etc, etc, etc
[02:35] <sebsebseb> !new |  myfirstlinux_
[02:35] <cfedde> myfirstlinux_: bumble around till you run into something interesting then go on from there.
[02:35] <danielsevigny> start with a 32 bit installation. Play around for a bit. Realize that the desktop environment is the easy way of doing things. Then do it it the hard core way, open up the command line and start using the man pages.
[02:35] <Out_Cold> myfirstlinux_, what do you want to change first? once you start with that, you'll start learning how to configure your system..
[02:35] <danielsevigny> before you know i you'll know as much as I do. Which isn't a lot but it's more than a complete beginner... lol
[02:35] <duckinator> is there a way to adjust when ubuntu starts using swap? my hd is way too slow for this thing to be using 50MB swap :P
[02:35] <sebsebseb> myfirstlinux_: Ubuntu Pocket Guide you will want that
[02:35] <bruce89> TBH, do what you like, and don't feel compelled to do anything because someone says to
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> k
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> thanks everyone
[02:36] <Out_Cold> duckinator, hiw big is the HD?
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> i love playing movies
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> but it never works
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> it is always sped up so fast
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> !enter > myfirstlinux_
[02:36] <myfirstlinux_> i have a 64 bit prcessor
[02:36] <Links2> codecs?
[02:37] <duckinator> Out_Cold: it's a 160GB hd, but it's a horrible piece of crap. if i format it it stops spinning until i do a full powercycle (nothing is even adjusted on the disk), so i had to use wubi :(
[02:37] <sebsebseb> bruce89: oh just noticed your in here as well
[02:38] <Out_Cold> ack... well you can shut off swap or make it a file on something else
[02:38] <sebsebseb> myfirstlinux_: your on Ubuntu 9.10?
[02:38] <myfirstlinux_> yes
[02:38] <duckinator> Out_Cold: only hd in it, otherwise it wouldn't be installed on this drive :P
[02:38] <sebsebseb> myfirstlinux_: ok browse the software centre,  install things you want to try,  you can then also after woulds do Synaptic and give that a good browse, that's more advanced than the software centre
[02:38] <Out_Cold> duckinator, how much ram?
[02:39] <kmc> duckinator, there's a sysctl named vm.swappiness
[02:39] <myfirstlinux_> thanks. I will try. Adobe does not work very well in LInux huh?
[02:39] <kmc> 0 is least swap-happy, 100 is most swap-happy
[02:39] <danielsevigny> Any other ideas for installing the 32 bit python2.6 alongside the 64bit version so that the application can use the one it needs?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> myfirstlinux_: which Adobe programs?
[02:39] <kmc> you can set it with sysctl or /proc/sys
[02:39] <duckinator> Out_Cold: 786MB... ubuntu is seeing 743MB, assuming the rest is for graphics (for no reason, the graphics card has 512MB RAM ><) but it's only using 531MB of it
[02:40] <sebsebseb> myfirstlinux_: Flash can be done natively,  and that's about it, when it comes to Adobe on  Desktop Linux.  Then other programs you can get working as well.
[02:40] <samuel_> hi, Midi won't play in browser despite workaround at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2009-July/005957.html, any ideas?
[02:40] <bruce89> technically acroread too, but evince is fine
[02:41] <jazzencat> should my swap be ahead of /boot or after?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> bruce89: yeah that, and I was thinking Adobe Air?
[02:42] <AceKing> Can someone help me with a startup error running Ubuntu 9.10 upgraded from 9.04? When I went to start the PC, it said "Checking file system" got up to 70% and just stayed for over an hour. I can't get it to run.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> AceKing: Many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04.  Also  Ext3 9.04 upgrades won't become Ext4 on upgrade, and you won't get Grub 2 on upgrade
[02:44] <shaggyoaf> Hi, everybody. I just upgraded to jaunty and I can't seem to find the linux-restricted-modules package for the kernel I'm running (2.6.31-15-generic)
[02:44] <shaggyoaf> any hints?
[02:44] <odinsbane> So I setup a vpn connection (not using network manager) and now I have a ppp0 interface with an ipadress, I don't think Iuse it
[02:44] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: uhmm you mean you upgraded to Karmic?
[02:44] <shaggyoaf> I'd also settle for being told about a utility to un-do the X-org config changes that happened when I selected the restricted driver
[02:44] <AceKing> sebsebseb, I understand that, that's why I mentioned that I upgraded. Do you know of anything I can do to boot in?
[02:44] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb: I don't think so
[02:44] <sebsebseb> AceKing: no and I would suggest doing a clean install of 9.10,  or 9.04, or another distro if you want
[02:44] <odinsbane> I still have my wireless cards ipaddress.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> shaggyoaf: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak
[02:45] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: well 9.04 does not have that kernel number
[02:45] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: 9.04/jauntey has 2.6.28  something
[02:45] <Jordan_U> shaggyoaf: Ubuntu has no Xorg.conf by default so removing it ( or in this case just moving it ) gets you back to defaults
[02:46] <kmc> anyone know about my usb boot problem?
[02:46] <odinsbane> shaggyoaf: you can delete your xorg.conf file.
[02:46] <AceKing> sebsebseb, There are a lot of files I need on there.. Would I be able to get the files if I run from Live CD?
[02:46] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb: huh, well that could explain some things. I wonder how the kernel package got installed?
[02:46] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb: my /etc/apt/sources.list file definitely says jaunty
[02:47] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb:... er, wait... It says karmic
[02:47] <sebsebseb> AceKing: putting on another distro, that's what I did instead of keeping 9.10 for ages on here, or going back to 9.04.  or  instead of keeping 9.10 untill I decided to do a development  version of 10.04.  10.04 should be good, it's the next LTS after all :)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: you upgraded from jauntey to karmic or?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: 9.04 to 9.10?
[02:47] <brmassa> guys... i want to RSYNC to a SAMBA directory, what should i do?
[02:47] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb: No, I was running feisty before the upgrade
[02:47] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: hmm odd
[02:48] <odinsbane> brmassa: doesn't that work?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: how exactly did you upgrade?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> AceKing: yes if you run the Live CD, you will have access to the partition
[02:48] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb: by clicking the "why yes, I'd like to upgrade" button in KDE's package updater
[02:48] <sebsebseb> AceKing: well I guess as long as the partition is ok
[02:48] <AceKing> sebsebseb, Thank you.. I'm doing that now
[02:48] <sebsebseb> AceKing: np
[02:48] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: oh Kubuntu as well
[02:49] <sebsebseb> shaggyoaf: well 7.04 can't be upgraded directly to 9.10
[02:49] <nickkontos> ok guys :) seems that i didn't search well before i asked your help here, i just had to edit /etc/nsswitch.conf and remove "wins" - which i added for some networking two days ago...
[02:49] <thesnark> ugh why do you people insist on including IcedTea? OpenJDK _sucks_
[02:49] <brmassa> odinsbane: well... rsync doesnt recognize the smb://mypc protocol
[02:49] <nickkontos> thanks anyways :)
[02:49] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: ok well at least you figured it out :)
[02:49] <odinsbane> brmassa: can you mount a samba volume, something like smbmount ?
[02:49] <mahngiel> good morning/evening folks. looking to remove all the panels off of 9.1.
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: What why?
[02:50] <iJul1609> hey  guys
[02:50] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: replace it with a dock
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: you need the panels really to  open  programs up and that
[02:50] <brmassa> odinsbane: ive never tried it. hehe sound obvious ah? well... let me try
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: Cairo dock is the best dock or so they say
[02:50] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: not if i use my desktop and a dock my friend
[02:50] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: i am using cairo dock. and i don't need a panel AND a dock :)
[02:51] <iJul1609> Hey, I might have messed up with a couple things in Karmic...I'm positive Rythmbox used to play m4p and m4a music files, but I tried Banshee, then Amarok, and now none of these players can play anything else but mp3s
[02:51] <Jordan_U> brmassa: If you are mounting it with nautilus you can access it via ~/.gvfs
[02:51] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: and panels are easy to remove, just right click and delete panel
[02:51] <iJul1609> I think I'm missing a plugin...PS: I hate Amarok big time
[02:51] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: that works until you have one left, then you cannot
[02:51] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: also I remember that Mac OS X Tiger has it's dock at the bottom, but also a panel/bar at the top
[02:51] <nickkontos> i tried mercury... it's not so nice... it has very small text and I can't find support for msn plus contact colors (whick all windows users use :@ )
[02:52] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: yeah  it's ok, but
[02:52] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: i'm not interested in multiple panels / docks. I just want one
[02:52] <shaggyoaf> sebsebseb, Ok, sorry about dropping out, I found an Xorg config that would work and bring me up at a reasonable resolution
[02:52] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: can be a bit buggy or whatever you want to say
[02:52] <shaggyoaf> Any ideas about getting me the restricted drivers package for my karmic install?
[02:52] <iJul1609> So basically, I just need a link or repo to a plugin for m4a and m4p that will work with either Rythmbox or Banshee
[02:53] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: try kmess it's nice, there's also emescene or MSN
[02:53] <sebsebseb> !info emescene
[02:53] <Fizix> shaggyoaf, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:53] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: uhmm I guess that's wrong uhmm I'll find out
[02:53] <samuel_> I've pasted part of my mozplugger config at http://www.pastebin.org/58011
[02:53] <shaggyoaf> Fizix, Ah, that seems to be a huge list-o-packages, thanks :)
[02:53] <mahngiel> anybody have a work around for removing the last panel in karmic?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: you can use Empathy or Pidgin for MSN
[02:53] <Fizix> NP
[02:53] <shaggyoaf> wow, complete with wgets
[02:53] <KenBW2> is there any reason not to put swap in an extended partition and expect Hibernate to work?
[02:54] <jongbergs> !resetpanel | mahngiel
[02:54] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: emesene
[02:54] <samuel_> Can anyone find an issue?
[02:54] <Fizix> KenBW2, I personally wouldn't try it. Just out of curiosity, what's the motive behind this?
[02:54] <mahngiel> jonbergs: and for making it not pop back up on restart?
[02:54] <nickkontos> well, I need something that supports colored contacts, otherwise I have to read very carefully to understand which of my friend are online...
[02:54] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: that's the correct spelling
[02:54] <KenBW2> Fizix: i have >4 partitions
[02:54] <iJul1609> So I've looked over the internet for this plugin to play m4p and m4a in Rythmbox and Banshee, but couldn't find anything. No download, no repo, no nada. Anyone know what package/plugin I need?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: well not sure about the latest version of Live Messenger, but you can get a slightly older version working quite well in Wine, I have never done it myself though
[02:55] <Jordan_U> KenBW2: Swap on an extended partition should work fine wrt hibernation
[02:55] <jongbergs> mahngiel: yes, it should be fixed
[02:55] <KenBW2> Jordan_U: should or does?
[02:55] <Fizix> KenBW2, if I were you, I'd put swap in the physical partition, and all else in a logical partition, but that's just me.
[02:55] <brmassa> odinsbane: its not the proper place to write it but... i use Kubuntu, so all samba servers are listed on "smb://mypc" but i cannot find the "//mypc" or equivalent...
[02:55] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: also with enough RAM, you can run a Windows virtual machine
[02:55] <mahngiel> jonbergs: from what i understand from the bot, i'm 'resetting' the panels. i want to delete all of them
[02:56] <KenBW2> Fizix: as a precaution or because of a reason?
[02:56] <Jordan_U> KenBW2: I see know reason why it shouldn't but I haven't done it myself ( and hibernation could fail for many other reasons )
[02:56] <jongbergs> mahngiel: what do you really want? no panels at all?
[02:56] <Fizix> KenBW2, because of my own psychosis! you should be fine though listening to the others on here.
[02:56] <mahngiel> jonbergs: indeed senior. i only want to use my dock and desktop icons
[02:56] <KenBW2> Fizix, Jordan_U: thanks
[02:57] <nickkontos> well, i've tried running an old version with wine but it only supports the very old one which asks you to download and install the newer version otherwise it doesn't connect...
[02:57] <jongbergs> mahngiel: what happens if you just delete all panels?
[02:58] <mahngiel> however, by default - either by gnome design, or a conspiracy - you cannot delete the last panel. it's faded out of the menu selection
[02:58] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: well Trillian under Wine or something you could do that
[02:58] <mahngiel> and no, i do not want to 'auto-hide' it. i just want it to go away
[02:58] <knuck887> can anybody describe a simple way to alter my bootup splash?
[02:58] <Fizix> I have made no modifications to Terminal Server Client so why are the non-RDP protocols grayed out? I'd rather just use one client for VNC, SSH & RDP rather than flipping between 'Terminal Server Client' and 'Remote Desktop Viewer.'
[02:59] <sebsebseb> knuck887: alter in what way?  and which Ubuntu version?
[03:00] <knuck887> 9.10 and like this, i'll provide a link in a sec
[03:00] <nickkontos> anyways, i'll stick with amsn once I solved my problem and see what happens :p
[03:00] <jongbergs> mahngiel: afaik, if you use aero-dock plugin you can configure it to prevent panels from showing up
[03:00] <nickkontos> now I have to fix firefox
[03:01] <jongbergs> !dock
[03:01] <mahngiel> jonbergs: did you research this just now? and do you have a link?
[03:02] <knuck887> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Usplash+Theme+-+Fingerprint?content=50468
[03:02] <knuck887> this is what i'd like to make my splash screen look like
[03:02] <jongbergs> mahngiel: nope, but i will try to help what issues behind this
[03:03] <knuck887> the readme file in the dl tell me to : 2-  You also need a booting screen resolution of 1024x768. To set it, please open your grub configuration file
[03:03] <nickkontos> does anyone know when will the new version of flash that doesn't eat so much cpu when playing videos is comming out?
[03:03] <preecher> i buy a phillips vibe mp3 player- its say for me to insert cd and follow instruction-can i have ubuntu to autorun the cd when inserted? i have wine installed
[03:03] <owen1> How to uninstall totem? i have 4 related packages - libtotem-plparser12, totem-common, totem-gstreamer, totem-plugins.  i still want to use mplayer though.
[03:03] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: Flash in Firefox  in Ubuntu can  =  right issues
[03:03] <mahngiel> oh, speaking of splash screens. i have a chess piece icon for a user icon when i log in and out. how do i change this?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: however if you try other browsers well :)
[03:04] <mahngiel> jonbergs: thanks, mate. fill me in on what you find
[03:04] <nickkontos> well, i didn't see any sifferences wih chromium
[03:05] <nickkontos> as far as flash is concerned...
[03:05] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: try Epiphany and Galeon even
[03:05] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: Flash has always worked well in those for me, when Firefox in Ubuntu messed up for Flash
[03:05] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser by the way or you will end up with some game
[03:06] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: or  doing sudo apt-get install epiphany
[03:06] <sebsebseb> if  not or above
[03:07] <knuck887> anybody know about altering the grub configuration file to make the splash resolution higher
[03:07] <nickkontos> wow, so many dependencies...
[03:09] <iJul1609> so yeah, kinda solved it, at least for m4a's...but now, m4p? I know there's apparently no way to play them on Banshee, but VLC does seem to play them just fine. Is there anything I can copy from VLC and use in Banshee?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: Konqueror is a nice browser as well, it's a KDE app so if you haven't installed KDE stuff before it will want to put quite a lot of things on.   By the way Konqueror uses KTHML as it's rendering engine, and  Safari, Google Chrome, and Chromeium use Webkit which is based on KHTML.
[03:10] <mahngiel> ok, let's try this question: i want to create my own themes, the tutorials / education pages i've found talk about coding and what not... question is what program should i be using for this?
[03:10] <iJul1609> hey, tx for your help anyway...
[03:10] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: Firefox etc is Gecko :)
[03:11] <greezmunkey> mahngiel, heh - vi
[03:11] <preecher> is they a way to make a cd autorun in ubuntu
[03:11] <mahngiel> greezmunkey: vi?
[03:12] <BrodeurPC> is there a way to edit the Grub loader?
[03:12] <nickkontos> what to do? : A later version is available in a software channel You are strongly advised to install the version from the software channel, since it is usually better supported
[03:12] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: later version of what?
[03:12] <nickkontos> when I try to install flash
[03:12] <ubuntutrepxe1> nickkontos: install the package from synaptic
[03:12] <nickkontos> adobe-flash
[03:12] <sebsebseb> nickkontos: how are you trying to install Flash?
[03:13] <nickkontos> from website of adobe
[03:13] <nickkontos> .deb 8.04+
[03:13] <cfedde> preecher: not so much.  It's considered a feature that it does not have that capability: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17150/
[03:13] <preecher> cfedde, thx
[03:14] <Fandekasp> hi
[03:14] <UbuntuUser> that keyboard key that has the windows logo, is it possible to find a Linux one? maybe one with a penguin or Ubuntu logo?
[03:14] <UbuntuUser> i mean to replace it
[03:15] <nickkontos> what flash package should i install through synaptic?
[03:15] <cfedde> UbuntuUser: your local ubuntu group has some stickers that'll go over that.
[03:15] <UbuntuUser> cfedde, where do i find those?
[03:15] <links2> who use weechat?  Where weechat option "hide join/part messages ?
[03:16] <webbb82> whats up  hey i need some help im trying to download a bunch of wallpapers via ftp  but i keep gettinga error  this is what im trying to do  local: NATURE-BlitvenicaSunset_1280x1024.jpg remote: NATURE-BlitvenicaSunset_1280x1024.jpg
[03:16] <webbb82> No control connection for command: No such file or directory
[03:16] <webbb82> local: NATURE-BlueHyacinth_1280x1024.jpg remote: NATURE-BlueHyacinth_1280x1024.jpg
[03:16] <webbb82> No control connection for command: No such file or directory
[03:16] <webbb82> local: NATURE-BoracayToadsWidescreen_1280x1024.jpg remote: NATURE-BoracayToadsWidescreen_1280x1024.jpg
[03:16] <FloodBot5> webbb82: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <UbuntuUser> links2, what's weechat?
[03:16] <webbb82> No control connection for command: No such file or directory
[03:16] <Fandekasp> I've installed xserver.xorg on my ubuntu server (need it to see a gui from python script). I connect via console with ssh -Y to my server, but when I execute the script, nothing is showing ... Could someone help me ? I have the X11Forwarding=true .
[03:16] <links2> UbuntuUser: concole IRC client
[03:17] <BrodeurPC> how do i edit Grub? Like if i installed Windows on a different hard drive and then slaved it into the computer alone with the hard drive containing Ubuntu how would i edit the Grub so it finds the Windows OS on the other drive?
[03:17] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, try ssh -X next time...
[03:17] <links2> console
[03:17] <webbb82> anyway im trying to download a bunch of wallpapers via ftp but keep getting a error  this is what im tryin to do http://linuxologist.com/linuxhowto/howto-download-tons-of-gnome-specific-wallpapers-with-one-command/
[03:17] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : I've tried the ssh -X -2 , but it wait and don't connect
[03:18] <webbb82> here is the error i get  http://pastebin.com/m760b40d9
[03:18] <cfedde> UbuntuUser: if you can't find your local ubuntu user group you can try http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=578
[03:18] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, It would be more like ssh -X user@X.X.X.X
[03:18] <webbb82> any help woulod be very gratefull
[03:18] <Fandekasp> ok I retry without the -2
[03:19] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, then log in, and then...call your X based program.
[03:19] <jongbergs> !grub | BrodeurPC
[03:19] <danielsevigny> Does anyone know how to install both the 32bit and the 64bit version of python side by side in Karmic 64?
[03:20] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : after giving password, it wait, and don't connect
[03:20] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, give it a sec...
[03:20] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, or edit the first line in your /etc/resolv.conf file and try again.
[03:20] <BrodeurPC> ubottu: no i still have the grub, i unplugged the hard drive that has ubuntu and just plugged in another hard drive and installed Windows on that, now with the linux hard drive back as master and the windows drive as slave id like to get the grub menu to see it
[03:20] <Fandekasp> ssh without arg connect quickly. I wait for 40 secondes, it's strange
[03:20] <frankely> !guide
[03:21] <frankely> !ubuntu
[03:21] <frankely> !forum
[03:21] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : ok I connect with ssh (without arg) and go editing the resolv.conf file
[03:22] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, the first line is...search something.com ??
[03:22] <CJ1> can anyone help with the set-up of an apache webserver
[03:22] <CJ1> having trouble creating a cgi-bin
[03:22] <CJ1> never used one before
[03:22] <webbb82> i am trying to download a bunch of wallpapers from http://linuxologist.com/linuxhowto/howto-download-tons-of-gnome-specific-wallpapers-with-one-command/    but i keep getting this error  http://pastebin.com/m760b40d9
[03:23] <klaxo43> anyone here know how to copy files from a fat partition to ext3 using cp without it renaming long file names with the ~1 on the end
[03:23] <CJ1> maybe there is a way to check if i set it up right?
[03:23] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153424/  . It's the server's router
[03:24] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, insert a hash (#) in front of the word "search", and save.
[03:24] <danielsevigny> Does anyone know how to install both the 32bit and the 64bit version of python side by side in Karmic 64?
[03:25] <Fandekasp> I exit ssh and reconnect with -X greezmunkey ?
[03:25] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, understand that this is only because you are likely not running DNS on your box...
[03:25] <Fandekasp> or should I restart something ?
[03:25] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, no, try your ssh -X again...
[03:26] <Fandekasp> greewmunkey : should I look later on the box configuration how to enable the DNS ? Is there security issue ?
[03:27] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, You probably won't need to...
[03:27] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : looks like it still doesn't want to connect with X arg :(
[03:28] <CJ1> apache webserver help for a noob? Pleassssee
[03:28] <CJ1> I though that might be the best way to ask for help
[03:29] <gRaCiOsO> I'd like to add the option to run on windows xp it dosnt appears on grub menu, how could i do it?
[03:29] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : looking on google, I read that I have perhaps an error in my /etc/hosts file, I go look it
[03:30] <UbuntuUser> are there any sites where i can order the Ubuntu logo sticker to cover the windows one on the super key?
[03:30] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: run os-prober
[03:30] <preecher> hey is they another program that do same thing as wine for ubuntu/linux
[03:30] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, take a look at: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html
[03:30] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  how ?
[03:31] <jongbergs> !crossover | preecher
[03:31] <preecher> jongbergs,  thax i will look at it now
[03:32] <danielsevigny> Does anyone know how to install both the 32bit and the 64bit version of python side by side in Karmic 64?
[03:32] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  i have typed os-prober from terminal but i dont see nothing
[03:32] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: open up terminal and run os-prober, are you using karmic?
[03:32] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  yea im on karmic
[03:33] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  i did it but i dont see nothing
[03:33] <UbuntNOOB> Hello
[03:33] <UbuntNOOB> I could use some help
[03:33] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: try to consult this first !grub2
[03:33] <wersdaluv> the "Networking" dialog is gone in karmic. what's the replacement for that?
[03:33] <UbuntNOOB> I just got a XP-Ubuntu dualboot setup
[03:33] <jongbergs> !grub2 | gRaCiOsO
[03:33] <Lokillo1> i need support with tc card sabrent usb 2.0
[03:34] <tr_> I am going crazy with an atheros wifi on jaunty. Can anyone help?
[03:34] <UbuntNOOB> It is fine, but the internet will not work
[03:34] <UbuntNOOB> I type in the WEP
[03:34] <UbuntNOOB> And it just stays at *connecting*
[03:34] <UbuntNOOB> And then asks me for the key again.
[03:34] <UbuntNOOB> What should I do?
[03:34] <Lokillo1> i need support with tv tunner sabren usb 2.0
[03:35] <CJ1> setting up an apache webserver
[03:35] <UbuntNOOB> Hello?
[03:35] <UbuntNOOB> Anyone?
[03:35] <CJ1> cgi-bin help
[03:35] <webbb82> ok when  it says 2. Copy everything from the AWN folder to ~/.config/awn/applets     what awn folder
[03:35] <CJ1> is there a specific place to create the cgi-bin directory
[03:35] <CJ1> does it matter
[03:35] <AstroTurf> LOL, U ALL RACIST AGAINST MY NEW DISTRO - BLOATBUTU
[03:35] <UbuntNOOB> Gah! This is chaos!!!
[03:36] <UbuntNOOB> @AstroTurf You mean Windows?
[03:36] <owen1> How to uninstall totem? sudo aptitude purge totem doesn't remove anything. I have 4 related packages - libtotem-plparser12, totem-common, totem-gstreamer, totem-plugins.  i still want to use mplayer though.
[03:36] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: i had same problem.. deleted the connection in network manager and reconnected and it worked :/
[03:37] <Random832> how does someone get their ISP to set their reverse dns to "U-RACIST.U-RACIST.CO.CC"?
[03:37] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, check in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config, make sure there is: X11Forwarding yes : X11DisplayOffeset 10 : X11UseLocalHost yes : and : #UseLogin yes :
[03:37] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: the gtk one seems to work better than knetworkmanager btw, and apparently wicd is better than both
[03:37] <webbb82> ok when  it says 2. Copy everything from the AWN folder to ~/.config/awn/applets     what awn folder
[03:37] <tr_> any ideas on getting an atheros chipset wifi to work on jaunty?
[03:37] <UbuntNOOB> zerq: Err, I dont quite understand... Note the username :P
[03:38] <Flare183> CJ1: Well, not really ask long as it goes in the same folder as the root web folder it.
[03:38] <Flare183> is*
[03:38] <Fandekasp> greezmunky : the 2 first are ok. I don't see the third, and the last is commented in the file
[03:38] <UbuntNOOB> zerq: And I have deleted the connection
[03:38] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: hehe yeah, sorry. I'm not much better than a complete noob myself though lol
[03:39] <KaiForce> UbuntNOOB awesome
[03:39] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: after you delete it, click on connect to another network or whatever it is..
[03:39] <Fandekasp> greexmunkey : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153425/  (really thank you for your help)
[03:39] <owen1> is the way to remove totem is purge totem-gstreamer?
[03:39] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: select your network, type in the WEP and hopefully it will work
[03:39] <UbuntNOOB> zerq: Do you have any idea what I should do though? It just sits there, mocking me with the one green light one dark one :(
[03:39] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, add what you don't have for now, and try it.
[03:39] <Khul> question: any1 know how to change the permits on a file that has the simbol of a "lock" on it ?
[03:39] <KaiForce> is Torcs any good?
[03:39] <magician11> Hi there. I'm trying to get my apostrophe working properly. If I push apostrophe 's' I get ś I have to push apostrophe then space to get an apostrophe. How do I correct this?
[03:40] <UbuntNOOB> KaiForce: I know I am awesome, but I am so awesome I occasionaly forget what I did to earn the status... What did I do exactly?
[03:40] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : a /etc/init.d/ssh restart before retrying ?
[03:40] <zerq> UbuntNOOB: I had a similar problem and i'm not completely sure how I fixed it i'm afraid.. I just know I deleted the connection and went to connect to another network and it worked and kept working
[03:40] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, yes
[03:40] <UbuntNOOB> zerq: I did that, kinda, and it still didn't work :(
[03:40] <KaiForce> UbuntNOOB in a moment of inspiration, you chose the nick UbuntNOOB.  Truly inspiring.
[03:40] <danielsevigny> So here's the issue. I'm running a 32bit program that requires the 32bit version of python. The 64bit version of Karmic ships with the 64bit version of python. Does anyone know how I can install the 32bit version without removing the 64bit version? I don't want to downgrade to 32bit because that will adversely affect the performance of the program.
[03:41] <UbuntNOOB> KaiForce: Indeed. Thank you for noticing :)
[03:41] <DaZ> danielsevigny: 64 isn't faster than 32 [;
[03:41] <oasisHome> Hi, I was trying to wipe out the partitions of a second hard drive that had had linux installed on it.... But I accidentally wiped out the swap partition on my main hard drive (dual boot, Ubuntu and Win XP).  Now I can't boot from windows... it says hal.dll missing or corrupt...   probably wiped out my boot.ini file?
[03:41]  * greezmunkey laughs at girlfriend complaining that *everything* is made in China...
[03:41] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : always in trouble
[03:41] <danielsevigny> no it isn't. But it does limit RAM.
[03:42] <danielsevigny> The program is quite ram intesive
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, what do you mean?
[03:42] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : it don't arrive to connect
[03:42] <zerq> greezmunkey: tell her to quit complaining and go make you a sandwich ;P
[03:42] <KaiForce> oasisHome, are you sure you didn't whack your windows system partition?
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, what happened?
[03:42] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: how is it now?
[03:42] <UbuntNOOB> greezmunkey: No, one time I SWEAR I held something that said "Made in the USA". It broke after I put it back down...
[03:43] <greezmunkey> gahaff
[03:43] <jongbergs> did you try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer4
[03:43] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : like every time, nothing happen ... it wait something . I'll have to shut the console and open another one
[03:43] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: did you try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer4
[03:43] <zerq> my Gilette oldschool safety razor is made in the USA.. circa 1950..
[03:43] <oasisHome> well would it have allowed me to whack the win partition while I was running win?   cuz I was running Win
[03:43] <zerq> and it's rock solid
[03:43] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: sudo os-prober
[03:43] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  that for what?
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> Err... K, I will just give it another shot.
[03:44] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, I assume that you installed Openssh on the target computer, am I right?
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> Wish me luck
[03:44] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: sudo update-grub
[03:44] <KaiForce> my 1999 honda accord was made in Marysville and I've done nothing to maintain it except tires and oil.  Rock solid.
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> Thanks for the help, and laughs I guess 0_o
[03:44] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : Perhaps it's a xhost problem ? how could I find my hostname, to add it in xhost ?
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> Ta Ta
[03:44] <oasisHome> Kai, also I still saw the Win partition after whacking the swap partition
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> P.S. You can steal my username if you'd like :P
[03:44] <UbuntNOOB> *POOF*
[03:44] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  trying
[03:45] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, you are makin this harder than it has to be I think. What distro is on the target box?
[03:45] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: the three commands probes for the existing windows installation and adds this to grub menu
[03:45] <XVampireX> Hi folks
[03:45] <ftjjk> I just upgraded to 9.10 and lost my touchpad so I had to plugin a usb mouse but I want my touchpad back
[03:45] <Fandekasp> greexmunkey : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153426/
[03:45] <XVampireX> I got some trouble
[03:45] <gRaCiOsO> jongbergs,  i did that but is the samen when i do update-grub
[03:45] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : I have ubuntu server 9.10
[03:45] <KaiForce> oasisHome ah OK.  In that case, try doing a repair install of windows.  sounds like you lost the MBR
[03:46] <XVampireX> This bulletproof X turns out to be more trouble than help seriously
[03:46] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me?
[03:46] <oasisHome> ok, one can restore that from the windows recovery console as well, right?  (just FYI i can still boot linux)
[03:46] <jongbergs> gRaCiOsO: did you do the three commands?
[03:46] <KaiForce> oasisHome yes I think so
[03:46] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, argh! How much "configuring" have you done to get this to work?
[03:46] <adante> how do i browse to a network share graphically in xubuntu 9.04?
[03:47] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey ... why ?
[03:47] <oasisHome> ok, that seems right that I could wipe out the MBR and still boot linux of the same HDD?
[03:47] <KaiForce> if it was overwritten yes
[03:47] <klaxo43> anyone here know how to copy files (cp) from an msdos fs to ext3 without it renaming long file names with the ~1 on the end?
[03:47] <oasisHome> kthxbai! :)
[03:49] <ftjjk> can anyone help my get my touchpad working again?
[03:49] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, I can't speak to being any kind of expert on this. I have mine up and running now, and explained what I did to do that. Anything else, and I have to back away :(
[03:49] <Fandekasp> greezmunkey : ok :( thank you for your help
[03:50] <matswapati> recently installed karmic on my eee 1005ha, getting bus error when opening some programs that i installed such as skype and anki
[03:50] <greezmunkey> Fandekasp, good luck, I can pastebin my sshd_config, if it will help...
[03:50] <Fandekasp> ok thank you
[03:50] <septyni> hello
[03:51] <zerq> is there some kind of advanced config for the metacity compositor stuff?  3 options is kind of.. weak
[03:51] <XVampireX> HELP
[03:55] <owen1> i have both firefox 3 and 3.5 and i can't find the cached files of 3.5. i changed the cached folder to be ~/.cache/firefox and it's not there.
[03:55] <CJ1> anyone here know how to set up bluelava
[03:56] <duckinator> what's the ubuntu equivalent of rc.conf? >.> sorry, i'm used to archlinux lol
[03:56] <CJ1> I didn't think so
[03:57] <greezmunkey> X10 :p
[03:58] <UbuntuUser> that keyboard key that has the windows logo, is it possible to find a Linux one? maybe one with a penguin or Ubuntu logo?
[03:58] <owen1> duckinator: what's rc.conf?
[03:58] <CJ1> yes
[03:58] <UbuntuUser> where?
[03:58] <zerq> UbuntuUser: you could print out a penguin sticker ;)
[03:58] <magician11> when I'm typing apostrophe s I get ś how do I get the characters to print individually? I've been trying to play around in Keyboard preferences layout.. no luck yet. I have to push apostrophe space for the apostrophe to appear.
[03:58] <CJ1> x10
[03:58] <CJ1> I can't figure it out
[03:58] <duckinator> owen1: bah :P first google result explains it well: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rc.conf
[03:59] <zerq> UbuntuUser: or if you wanted something a little classier, get a local artist to airbrush your key
[03:59] <gRaCiOsO> if i had vbox OSE version installed on my ubuntu and i had a virtual machine whats up if i remove from synamptics vbox OSE to installa vbox from the website of vbox?
[03:59] <zerq> wonder how much that would cost.. lol
[03:59] <UbuntuUser> i scratched it off with the tip of a kitchen knife, that at least removed the eye sore
[03:59] <CJ1> installed apache, I think correctly
[03:59] <greezmunkey> I thought x10 cool when it first hit the market, and I wasn't alone, but it never turned out to be the killer app that it promised to be.
[03:59] <zerq> was thinking about getting my netbook airbrushed anyway.. if I do I'm definitely getting the windows keys changed to penguins xD
[04:00] <zerq> er.. a penguin
[04:00] <UbuntuUser> zerq, you still have the windows logo on your keyboard?
[04:00] <mMezquitale> magician11, try changing the keyboard to default settings, then make changes as you like
[04:00] <Snausages> zerq: depends on the artist, mostly...  I know some who would do it for free, others who'd want $50 and a couple who you'd have to chase for 6 months to get them to think about doing it for $500
[04:00] <owen1> duckinator: interenting. i am curious to know if there is something similar in ubuntu.
[04:00] <CJ1> I'd just like to get the frontend to work
[04:00] <zerq> UbuntuUser: well, this netbook is like a week old ;p
[04:00] <goose> what' the terminal command to run a .deb file? I need to run it as sudo :S
[04:00] <zerq> UbuntuUser: don't quite have the will to take a knife or something to it.. I want to get it painted though\
[04:00] <UbuntuUser> ah i see. knife tip removes well. scratched key looks better lol
[04:00] <UbuntuUser> zerq, good call
[04:01] <matswapati> anyone know why i am getting 'bus error' when i try to launch certain applications on karmic?
[04:01] <magician11> mMezquitale: thanks. tried that. just not sure what changes to make afterwards...
[04:02] <lfaraone> By default, it seems apt-mirror only handes one arch. How do I make it download amd64 and i386?
[04:02] <mMezquitale> magician11,  once you have the defaul keyboard you should have the US keyboard, what is it that you want to be able to do with your keyboard?
[04:03] <Snausages> lfaraone: I dunno if you can...  but then, just about every computer I've seen is conveniently also just one architecture, so I think i'm missing the problem?
[04:03] <magician11> mMezquitale: default is USA International (with dead keys) I want my apostrophe to appear as an individual character. if I push apostrophe s now I get ś
[04:04] <lfaraone> Snausages: I'm running a apt mirror for a lab.
[04:04] <lfaraone> Snausages: we have  multiple archs.
[04:04] <ftjjk> help - I cnat use my touchpad after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 :HP dv9000
[04:04] <lfaraone> Snausages: moreover, we often have i386 chroots on amd64 workstations.
[04:04] <Snausages> lfaraone: gotcha.  I don't know how to get around that, but thanks for the details
[04:05] <mMezquitale> magician11, change your keyboard to "USA?  are you using karmic?  do you use another language other than english?
[04:06] <webbb82> what is the best wallpaper manager
[04:06] <mMezquitale> !poll| webbb82
[04:06] <CJ1> anyone know the difference between apache2 and an httpd webserver?
[04:07] <Flare183> CJ1: There the same thing
[04:08] <yo_rmn> hello everibody
[04:08] <switch263> anyone familiar with wine + wow on ubuntu 9.10? i get 'access violation' errors :-/
[04:08] <CJ1> so if i installed apache 2 then i have a working httpd server
[04:08] <magician11> mMezquitale: that worked to change it to USA. woohoo! 's 's 's yes using karmic and just English. thanks! :)
[04:09] <yo_rmn> wht can I useto read my txt3?
[04:09] <yo_rmn> ext3*
[04:10] <mMezquitale> magician11,  to make it permanent check what settings you use every time you login, you will notice you can choose your keyboard settings every time you login after you type your nickname
[04:10] <rumpsy> ubuntu sucks more memory when i use chatzilla :(
[04:11] <rumpsy> How can i clear that?
[04:11] <magician11> mMezquitale: right. I clicked "apply system wide" too.. so hopefully that will stick now!
[04:11] <AkumaATR> Can someone tell me how to update to gst-plugins-base0.10 from 9.10 image
[04:11] <silktaco> after much consideration I have decided that wireless SUCKS in ubuntu
[04:11] <AkumaATR> I need can_suspend gconf flag to be honored
[04:12] <Billiard> silktaco: if you have the right cards it works fine
[04:13] <silktaco> i have the right cards
[04:13] <silktaco> i have a broadcom
[04:13] <Billiard> yo_rmn: what are you trying to do
[04:13] <Billiard> silktaco intel is the right cards lol
[04:13] <yo_rmn> just trying to see my partition on Win7
[04:13] <CJ1> is there a way to remove programs
[04:14] <CJ1> on the command line
[04:14] <yo_rmn> ny linux patition
[04:14] <CJ1> remove apach2
[04:14] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[04:14] <Billiard> yo_rmn: try ext2fsd
[04:14] <CJ1> or purge apache2 and everything that came associated with it so i can start over
[04:14] <yo_rmn> not working :)
[04:14] <silktaco> I would like the wireless connection to come up on boot.  It works find from gnome for the user session. But beyond that it seems hopeless. The issue is the debugging tools.  They jsut aren't that helpful unless I know how to read hex, which I don't.
[04:14] <greezmunkey> CJ1, sudo apt-get remove apache2 ??
[04:14] <yo_rmn> I did tried some before coming :)
[04:14] <Billiard> yo_rmn: you get an error or what?
[04:15] <ron-l-j> cd \ gedit /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[04:15] <AkumaATR> Can someone show me how to get gst-plugins-base0.10
[04:15] <skyl> woohoo! JACK finally knows how to really stick it to pulseaudio ! :D
[04:16] <switch263> anyone messed with wine + wow?
[04:16] <Roasted> hey guys - theres a program, a gui program, to set up drives to mount uatomatically in fstab. It has 5 letters in the name... pys something something...
[04:16] <yo_rmn> no errors, just see thm cant open'em
[04:16] <ron-l-j> man parted
[04:17] <mMezquitale> Roasted, look in "add/remove" and search  for fstab
[04:17] <freebsdlover> mMezquitale,  what does ur name stand for?
[04:17] <CJ1> i tried it. when type localhost in the webbrowser it still works
[04:18] <Roasted> well Im on kubuntu now, but I assume its still in add/remove mMezquitale?
[04:18] <Roasted>  in kubunth tat is?
[04:18] <Billiard> yo_rmn: see what cant open what?
[04:18] <Billiard> switch263: wow works well in wine
[04:20] <itilious> anyone here use thunderbird on ubuntu?
[04:20] <xorwhy> When I enter the router IP address in the firefox URL I am taken to wikipedia's webpage on the HTTP protocol. When I click on some links I am taken to advertisement websites and cannot access the proper page. After restoring a backup image this goes away for some time, but returns eventually.
[04:20] <xorwhy> Is my backup infected andor am I inadvertently infecting my system?
[04:20] <Billiard> xorwhy: what do you type in to the address bar exactly?
[04:20] <lockd> switch263, Billiard: and you can expect it to keep working well. they use Wine officially for their Mac port
[04:21] <sebsebseb> itilious: I have before
[04:21] <mMezquitale> Freeaqingme, "mezquital" is one of the best drinks in the world, next to tequila :-)
[04:21] <xorwhy> Billiard: http://192.168.2.1
[04:21] <links2> +j
[04:21] <mMezquitale> freebsdlover, "mezquital" is one of the best drinks in the world, next to tequila
[04:21] <Guest90738> I can't get the "git-clone" command to work. I have done a sudo apt-get install git-core and yet still the command does not work.
[04:21] <Billiard> xorwhy: and this takes you to a wikipedia page?
[04:21] <switch263> Billiard, lockd: i get nothing but errors attempting to use wow via wine
[04:21] <xorwhy> Billiard yes, until I restore my backup image.
[04:21] <Billiard> switch263: which errors and when?
[04:21] <mMezquitale> Roasted, only one way to find out
[04:21] <Billiard> xorwhy: firefox addons maybe?
[04:22] <freebsdlover> mMezquitale,  cool
[04:22] <gRaCiOsO> I have a problem with vbox
[04:22] <switch263> let me take a look, its an 'ACCESS_VIOLATION' error that i only get if i try to run in openGL mode
[04:22] <ron-l-j> cd /
[04:22] <switch263> but if i let it attempt D3D its unusable.
[04:22] <ron-l-j> parted -l
[04:22] <Billiard> switch263: did you add the wine beta repo?
[04:22] <xorwhy> Billiard: Ah, good suggestion I'm almost positive that's it. Thanks
[04:22] <mMezquitale> freebsdlover, you should try it some day
[04:22] <switch263> yes i did, Billiard
[04:22] <Fandekasp> I've bugged my ssh access to my server ... Do someone know a way to kill the session ?
[04:22] <mMezquitale> but that is off topic LoL
[04:22] <freebsdlover> mMezquitale,  r u offering me any?
[04:22] <Fandekasp> or to connect in a specific tty ?
[04:22] <gRaCiOsO> I remove vbox OSE and i installed vbox from the website and the virtual machin has added automatically but when i try to start it there is an error
[04:23] <DIL> hey all, i am remoting to another computer but vnc freezes after showing desktop of the remote computer googled seems like a common prob did not see a solutio hope you smart people may have a suggestion/solution
[04:23] <Billiard> switch263: what type of gfx card?
[04:23] <Billiard> switch263: worry wrong person
[04:23] <Billiard> switch263: o nvm right person sorry lol, which gfx card
[04:23] <mMezquitale> Fandekasp, you mean you want to restart your ssh server? or the ssh client?
[04:23] <webbb82> i am having some problems launching firefox 3.6 beta 4  when i first downloaded it it would launch when clicked but all of a sudden it wont laucnh no matter what i do
[04:23] <switch263> lol. i have an ati x1600pro, Billiard
[04:24] <switch263> and i'm using the 'radeon' driver package, works fine with compiz and such
[04:24] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp >terminal type top       then k for kill and the PID it it running as
[04:24] <venger> webbb82, run firefox from terminal
[04:25] <Fandekasp> mMezquitale : the ssh client. When I logg, I return to the previous bugged shell, I can't do anything else. And I have only 1 user enable to connect via ssh
[04:25] <rumpsy> what?....
[04:25] <Billiard> switch263: i have no idea
[04:25] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : my terminal is bugged , I can't type any command
[04:26] <switch263> Billiard, yeah, its freaking bizzare, i cant find anything about it via google either
[04:26] <murphy_> moin
[04:27] <Ubulindy> when I upgraded to 9.10 I copied my pgp key to a cd, where do I copy that to , and how do I import it for Evolution to use?
[04:27] <ron-l-j> is apt broken? does your packagemanager work ?
[04:27] <webbb82> venger, i keeps trying to start firefox 3.5  im trying to launch the 3.6 i downloaded
[04:27] <ron-l-j> install x-term
[04:27] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : nothing is broken normally
[04:27] <Billiard> Fandekasp: bugged? what happens when you try to type a command
[04:28] <ron-l-j> or another terminal
[04:28] <box> hey, how come i can't find an ffmpeg package on medibuntu? how do i install ffmpeg with support for mp3 encoding?
[04:28] <kevin1a> Is it possible for me to use the hardware encryption chip in an external hard drive, even though the company that makes the drive only provides windows and mac software with the drive?  Thank you in advance.
[04:29] <Billiard> box: not sure about mediabuntu package, but you can compile it from source, or just use lame for mp3 encoding
[04:29] <Fandekasp> Billiard : the previous command is waiting and doesn't want to stop . And ron-l-j : if I open another terminal, it redirect me to the same shell (a shell utility, don't remember the name, who saves sessions :/)
[04:29] <venger> switch263, did you try opengl mode in config.wtf
[04:29] <switch263> venger, yes
[04:29] <ron-l-j> box sudo apt-get install gestreamer
[04:29] <switch263> its unusable in D3D mode, and crashes in openGL mode
[04:29] <venger> webbb82, did terminal output show errors?
[04:29] <ron-l-j> Gstreamer
[04:29] <switch263> throws errors into the console about 'invalid heap'
[04:29] <ron-l-j> even as root ?
[04:30] <box> ron-l-j, couldn't find package gstreamer
[04:30] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I have disabled root access, like advised
[04:30] <venger> switch263, i dumped my ati card because of thos access violations and what not a while back... what binary version does the radeon package offer?
[04:30] <switch263> venger, idk, let me see
[04:30] <ron-l-j> ok what about control-Z
[04:30] <venger> switch263, wasn't specific to wow though
[04:30] <switch263> a new card isnt really in the options for a while, heh
[04:30] <box> Billiard, i tried that, it was a mess. i couldn't get mplayer to install from repositories or anything, and all my gstreamer plugins were broken
[04:30] <ron-l-j> to kill the run away terminal
[04:31] <Billiard> switch263: when you do get a new card, id suggest nvidia if you want decent linux support
[04:31] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : nothing happen. I'm on mac, should I try cmd+Z ?
[04:31] <bobhope> Hi, I'm having trouble with routing in ubuntu 8.04.  I set up a static IP on my ethernet port, and left my wireless card to roam, but I cannot see my network printer unless I manually disable the wired network--it seems that the system doesn't realize that the ethernet interface isn't up, and it fails to route through the wireless interface.  How can I change this behavior?
[04:31] <ron-l-j> box sounds like you should look at your sources list
[04:31] <Billiard> box i just use lame myself
[04:31] <yo_rmn> yo_rmn: see what cant open what? LINUX PARTITIONS wht else did I ask for?
[04:31] <switch263> venger, it shows the 'latest' version in use. i just have a deprecated card :-/
[04:31] <yo_rmn> ok ext2fsd not working
[04:31] <box> Billiard, i'm trying to get this working for cinerella
[04:32] <venger> switch263, glxinfo |grep -i rend
[04:32] <Billiard> yo_rmn: dont get like that, maybe you were talking about files
[04:32] <switch263> switch263@ghost:~$ glxinfo |grep -i rend
[04:32] <switch263> direct rendering: Yes
[04:32] <switch263> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RV530 71C2) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[04:32] <webbb82> venger,  it says command not found  i uninstalled firefox 3.5 in synaptic but i have the other firefox i downloaded from firefox web site
[04:32] <switch263> mesa :(
[04:32] <FloodBot5> switch263: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <Guest90738> I can't get the "git-clone" command to work. I have done a sudo apt-get install git-core and yet still the command does not work.
[04:32] <ron-l-j> can you get top open ?
[04:32] <Billiard> yo_rmn: you try explore2fs ?
[04:32] <ron-l-j> and use a kill -9
[04:32] <fig> what is the recommend way for making a backup
[04:33] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : don't know what is a "top" . How can I open it ?
[04:33] <Billiard> Fandekasp: type top
[04:33] <venger> switch263, why not downloaded the ati binary and do the manual install?
[04:33] <Billiard> fig: you could use rsync
[04:34] <Fandekasp> Billiard : Like I can't type anything because previous command is waiting, it will be difficult :(
[04:34] <switch263> venger, because it doesnt support my card
[04:34] <ron-l-j> FIg you can make a mirror with parted
[04:34] <zateynik> есть кто
[04:34] <Billiard> Fandekasp: ctrl+alt+f1   do it there, or open another terminal tab or something
[04:34] <venger> switch263, the legacy one would and wouldn't be mesa
[04:34] <switch263> i have an ati x1600 pro, it's unsupported as of the new version of X and latest ATI binary. really, really lame.
[04:34] <switch263> hrm. i couldnt find that one in ubuntu
[04:34] <venger> switch263, maybe the legacy doesn't work with karmic xorg?
[04:35] <fig> what is this mirror that you speek of?
[04:35] <switch263> i think thats the issue
[04:35] <zateynik> русские есть
[04:35] <Fandekasp> Billiard : via ssh, I can't do this. Anyways, I tried and nothing changed
[04:35] <Billiard> fig: mirror is a backup of a filesystem
[04:35] <switch263> venger, i'll screw with it. thanks.
[04:35] <Billiard> Fandekasp: make another ssh connection
[04:35] <venger> switch263, sounds like you should go ahead an mail a letter to santa
[04:36] <webbb82> does anyone know how i can get dual pane nautilus
[04:36] <switch263> venger, one of the reasons i use linux is because i hate buying new pc hardware. :-/
[04:36] <Fandekasp> Billiard it doesn't chage anything
[04:36] <switch263> so i'm extremely irritated that they dropped support for my card entirely.
[04:36] <ron-l-j> alt F4 will kill the window
[04:36] <fig> it it instableable upon another computer upon creation?
[04:36] <Billiard> Fandekasp: does it even give you a prompt in your new ssh session ?
[04:36] <venger> switch263, gaming doesn't care which os you run :)
[04:37] <switch263> i dont "game" per se, hah.
[04:37] <Fandekasp> Billiard : like I said, when I do another ssh connection, I'm forwarded to same shell. and ron-l-j, alt f4 will kill my client terminal, not the serveur shell
[04:37] <switch263> i play wow on occasion, thats about it
[04:37] <Fandekasp> Billiard : no because I see previous command always waiting. I'm really fucked
[04:37] <switch263> brb
[04:38] <ron-l-j> processor	: 7
[04:38] <ron-l-j> vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
[04:38] <ron-l-j> cpu family	: 6
[04:38] <ron-l-j> model		: 30
[04:38] <ron-l-j> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz
[04:38] <FloodBot5> ron-l-j: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <Billiard> Fandekasp: ssh has never done that to be before ever, you are just using bash ?
[04:39] <Lnk> j
[04:39] <Lnk> o_o
[04:39] <Fandekasp> Billiard : before, when I typed ctrl+C, the command was stopped. problem doesn't come from ssh, because it's one time logged that my session manager redirect my connection to opened session
[04:39] <vyan> !ask
[04:40] <Billiard> Fandekasp: can you open a 2nd session?
[04:40] <Billiard> Fandekasp: at the same time
[04:40] <Fandekasp> Billiard : no
[04:40] <Billiard> Fandekasp: why not
[04:40] <ron-l-j> control at delete log out
[04:41] <Billiard> Fandekasp: what if you try to kill the process  in the ssh command    ssh host 'pkill -9 processname'
[04:42] <vyan> after installed etckeeper and bacula backup on jaunty amd64 , if i login alway appear screen at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/329452/ and if i push TAB key twice always mydd@ubuntu:~$ mount -o loo-bash: /usr/bin/awk: cannot execute binary file , anybody can help me for fix these problem ??
[04:42] <Fandekasp> Billiard : I have only 1 user , mine, enabled to connect via ssh to the serveur. One time logged, I have my console manager (why don't I remember its name ?) which put saved session on console, so I retrieve my command waiting don't know what.
[04:42] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp cannont open another terminal and use top to kill
[04:42] <Fandekasp> Billiard : Oh it's possible ????
[04:42] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : really I tried, it's not possible
[04:43] <ron-l-j> fandekasp man I was saying that ten minutes ago :D
[04:43] <Fandekasp> erf sorry, didn't understand what you said :S
[04:43] <ron-l-j> fandekasp ok what can you do ? I know no terminal what do you have available
[04:43] <ron-l-j> can you log out ?
[04:44] <ron-l-j> I know you disabled root
[04:45] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j, Billiard : How can I know the bugged process number to kill it ?   Or could I try something like that :
[04:45] <Fandekasp> ssh me@myserver "reboot"
[04:45] <ron-l-j> and if you try to kill a root program you will get denied. Root is god and you disabled god
[04:45] <greezmunkey> mp3 support is in ubuntu-restricted-extras, right?
[04:45] <Billiard> Fandekasp: why not try   ssh host 'pkill -9 process'  ?
[04:45] <thiebaude> !mp3
[04:45] <Ronald> Winamp not Running
[04:45] <ron-l-j> If you can open another terminal you can type top
[04:45] <ron-l-j> hit enter
[04:45] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : it was said that keep a root connection via ssh was really bad for security :'(
[04:46] <ron-l-j> then find the process in the running list
[04:46] <Fandekasp> Billiard : what is my process ?
[04:46] <ron-l-j> look at its pid number
[04:46] <Billiard> Fandekasp: how should i know you ran it
[04:46] <Billiard> Fandekasp: which program is running that you cant kill?
[04:46] <ron-l-j> pid or "process" number is different on every machiene
[04:47] <Fandekasp> Billiard I ran this "http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153429/"   and it's still waiting
[04:47] <venger> vyan, do you have extra things in your .profile or .bashrc ?
[04:47] <Fandekasp> if you can help me finding the process name or id, I will be able to retrieve a normal shell ^^'
[04:48] <Billiard> ps aux is waiting Fandekasp? thats dumb,   try 'pkill -9 ps'
[04:48] <Fandekasp> Billiard ok
[04:48] <Billiard> or wait
[04:48] <ron-l-j> 20:10:25 f4nd3k4sp ~ $top
[04:48] <FabioTheApe> hmm nothing better to watch right before bed then the x-files
[04:48] <Billiard> no i ddint read it all Fandekasp sorry lol
[04:48] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp 20:10:25 f4nd3k4sp ~ $top
[04:48] <Billiard> Fandekasp: you could try that i guess
[04:48] <Billiard> Fandekasp: the killing ps
[04:49] <ron-l-j> fandekasp does the top command call top ?
[04:49] <ron-l-j> can you see a list ?
[04:49] <Fandekasp> Billiard : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153430/
[04:49] <Billiard> Fandekasp: did it help?
[04:49] <ron-l-j> $ ssh me@myserver top
[04:49] <Fandekasp> Billiard no
[04:50] <Billiard> Fandekasp: could try killing bash maybe
[04:50] <klaxo43> anyone know how to access files copied onto a usb drive formatted to ext3? they seem to be encrypted or something
[04:50] <Fandekasp> Billiard : you can't see my pastebin ?
[04:50] <microlith> klaxo43: from ubuntu or windows?
[04:50] <Billiard> Fandekasp: yes, did you try to login after that
[04:50] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I can't type "top" from server channel . Do you want me doing something like : ssh me@myserver "top" ?
[04:50] <klaxo43> from another ubuntu system
[04:50] <ron-l-j> YES
[04:50] <Fandekasp> Billiard no : I try
[04:50] <ron-l-j> :D exactly
[04:51] <microlith> klaxo43: what happens when you try to access the files?
[04:51] <zane> hey i am looking to buy a gamepad to use on my laptop for emulators and stuff and i was wondering if there were any that worked better then others?
[04:51] <fire_man> i cant minimize the bordure size
[04:51] <klaxo43> microlith: they are full of a single character, a "y" with dots over it
[04:51] <Fandekasp> But Billiard : it was not permitted, so I don't understand why something would have changed. I'm logged, and nothing has changed
[04:51] <ron-l-j> fandekasp  ssh me@myserver top
[04:51] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I try it
[04:51] <Billiard> Fandekasp: because if could have killed some
[04:51] <ron-l-j> fandekasp what happens ?
[04:52] <vay> anyone speak in Chinese ??
[04:52] <Billiard> !cn
[04:52] <microlith> klaxo43: so it reads properly on one machine but not another?
[04:52] <fire_man> i cant minimize the bordure size
[04:52] <vay> thank you
[04:52] <klaxo43> microlith, correct
[04:52] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153431/
[04:53] <fire_man> i cant minimize the bordure size
[04:53] <Billiard> Fandekasp: idk could try 'pkill -9 bash'
[04:53] <microlith> klaxo43: truly bizzare, I cannot immediately guess why that is happening
[04:53] <Fandekasp> Billiard : It's not allowed
[04:54] <fire_man> can anyone help me changing my bordure size
[04:54] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp kill everything like this any ssh will kill
[04:54] <ron-l-j> for i in `ps aux | grep ssh | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'}` ; do kill $i; done
[04:54] <Fandekasp> OH MY GOD
[04:55] <Fandekasp> Billiard I was wrong : ssh me@myserver "pkill -9 bash" worked fine and I can logg correctly nowww !!!!
[04:55] <Fandekasp> Thanks you two :D :D :D
[04:55] <Billiard> Fandekasp: cool
[04:55] <Fandekasp> fiou
[04:55] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp SWEET !
[04:56] <ron-l-j> I love a good discovery !
[04:56] <Billiard> Fandekasp: that session management crap sounds dumb, cant even open 2 ssh sessions?
[04:56] <ron-l-j> haha pkill -9 I have used that
[04:56] <Fandekasp> Billiard, ron-l-j : Could you help me solving my first problem ? I'm not able to connect my server with ssh -X  , and you can trust me, I tried lots of things :'(
[04:57] <ron-l-j> the grey matter is part the waves
[04:57] <Billiard> Fandekasp: whats the error?
[04:57] <Fandekasp> Billiard : In fact it can ! But the shortkey is fucked by mac os x same shortkey
[04:58] <Fandekasp> Billiard : "Cannot connect to X server localhost:10.0."
[04:58] <brijith> glade file designed in ubuntu9.04 is coming distorted when it is taken from ubuntu9.10
[04:58] <brijith> please help
[04:59] <Billiard> Fandekasp: sorry dunno, ive never tried x11 forwarding myself
[04:59] <eremite00> net
[04:59] <ron-l-j> what about /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[04:59] <brijith> glade file designed in ubuntu9.04 is coming distorted when it is taken from ubuntu9.10 please help !!!
[05:00] <Fandekasp> Billiard : ok np you were really helpful :)
[05:00] <skyl> I lost my fullscreen capabilities here http://video.pbs.org/video/1311412520 after upgrade to karmic and using flashplugin-installer
[05:00] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : my X11Forwarding=true, I can paste you the file if you want
[05:00] <Billiard> brijith: dont repeat yourself so quickly or add a bunch of exclimation points
[05:00] <brijith> sorry
[05:01] <Gaz`> hey dudes i just installed 9.10! im looking for that tweak application
[05:01] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j :  After searching, I'm asking myself if it's not a problem from xhost
[05:01] <Billiard> Gaz`: which tweak app ?
[05:01] <ron-l-j> i am sitting here with linux network admin in my lap
[05:01] <Gaz`> im sure i saw an app called tweak for adjusting prefs
[05:02] <Billiard> Gaz`: gconf-editor ?
[05:02] <ron-l-j> what does your host line say in sshd_config
[05:02] <Gaz`> hmm i wa convinced ti was called tweak nevermind
[05:02] <Fandekasp> Billiard, ron-l-j : for information, the terminal manager is called "screen-manager" I remember
[05:03] <Billiard> Fandekasp: ok, sounds pointless though lol
[05:03] <jasonmchristos> can anyone tell me how to remap my keyboard to do the utf circle A when i do capital A instead of the regular character?
[05:03] <jasonmchristos> im using karmic
[05:03] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153432/
[05:03] <ron-l-j> OK
[05:04] <Gaz`> damn compiz is faster than ever now!
[05:04] <Gaz`> finally
[05:04] <xorwhy> jasonmchristos: load up the xmodmap file xmodmap.us in gedit, and switch the numerical values for the keys you want to swap, then use the xmodmap utility to load the xmodmap.us file
[05:04] <xorwhy> I think its in /usr/share/xmodmap
[05:05] <yigal> can anyone help me getting my touchscreen to work?
[05:05] <jasonmchristos> xorwhy: ok thanks so the xmod map file uses utf codes is that what you meaan by numerical values?
[05:05] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : for infomation, during my tests, I've added the line "X11UseLocalHost yes" , and I've decommented the line "UseLogin yes" which ws "#UseLogin no"
[05:06] <ron-l-j> fandekasp you have been logging on and off of the remote server before correct ?
[05:07] <xorwhy> jasonmchristos: I don't know what utf codes represent, but the numbers start at 1, so I think the xmodmap numerics are just 1 to x, in some order, and serve as representations of proper utf codes
[05:07] <nevets04> What is the terminal command to search the package manager
[05:07] <Gaz`> hehe i like the new compiz cylinder :)
[05:07] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : with ssh , or ssh -Y , I can log in and out perfectly without problems. But I can't use X11. And when I try "ssh -X", It wait after asking my passwod, and I have to alt-f4 the terminal and open a new one
[05:08] <ron-l-j> if you have access to the remote hose you can re ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -f /etc/opennssh/ssh_host_key -n **
[05:08] <ron-l-j> ok x server access
[05:08] <Doulxx> kdlsjf
[05:08] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : lol I'm lost, could you give me the correct commands to type please ?
[05:08] <webbb82> ok i am trying to install a modded version of nautilus  but when i goto install it i get a error saying you already have the latest version installed   but if i try to uninstall nautilus in synaptic it wants to uninstall ubuntu-session    help please
[05:09] <ron-l-j> thias my sound silly but why do you want x-11 ?
[05:09] <Billiard> webbb82: how are you trying to install it?
[05:09] <webbb82> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/how-to-install-dual-panel-nautilus-for.html
[05:09] <webbb82> i downloaded the deb files
[05:09] <lucas_>  hello, ive install kubuntu-desktop and im having problems with kdm, when it starts it shows a black screen and the system blocks... i cant do anything, the only solution ive found was reconfiguring gdm... any solutions??
[05:09] <webbb82> i also add'd the ppa but that didnt work eithor
[05:10] <ron-l-j> you can log in the remote host. now what goal do you need to accomplish there ?
[05:11] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I'm developping a python script. I've installed Spynner lib, which required PyQt, and when I try some exemple script, it works fine, but I can't see result, because a window should open with the result. That's why I've installed xserver.xorg, and that's why I'm now trying to connect my server with ssh -X
[05:11] <webbb82> is there anyway to uninstall nautilus without it trying to uninstall ubuntu-sessions
[05:11] <Billiard> webbb82: could try the --force-downgrade option when trying to install the deb
[05:11] <nevets04> If I start an installation using apt-get instal, How can I cancel it?
[05:11] <mebi> こんちゃ
[05:11] <webbb82> how do i do that i didnt know about it
[05:11] <yigal> can anyone help me getting my touchscreen to work? ty
[05:11] <Billiard> nevets04: no safe way once the install has started
[05:11] <lockd> webbb82, nautilus is a gnome dependency
[05:11] <ron-l-j> oh end your script with raw-input and the window will stay open it is disseapearing on you
[05:11] <Billiard> nevets04: just remove them when its done
[05:11] <mebi> 日本の人　いませんか？
[05:11] <webbb82> im going to replace it with a differant version
[05:12] <Links2> j
[05:12] <ron-l-j> or send your script output to the command line
[05:12] <Fandekasp> and ron-l-j, on my client, X11 is dead (need to wait future version of X11, which will work with snow leopard)
[05:12] <ron-l-j> you have to modify it in python :d
[05:12] <microlith> mebi: 日本語は#ubuntu-jp
[05:12] <nevets04> Billiard, aww, so I am going to have to wait an hour or so until I can start another installation?
[05:12] <mebi> あれ？
[05:12] <ron-l-j> You are a python user you do not nedd anything but text :D
[05:12] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I don't know the spynner library, I don't see how to do it ...
[05:12] <Billiard> nevets04: if they are just downloading, you can safely kill it
[05:12] <nevets04> oh, k
[05:13] <nevets04> How do I do that? :D
[05:13] <ron-l-j> luckly i have python for unix and linux admin :D
[05:13] <lockd> webbb82, if it replaces nautilus and is high enough of a version it should work just fine. chances are it's outdated
[05:13] <Billiard> nevets04: the package manager or update manager or what?
[05:13] <fuffal0> i'm running ubuntu remix on my laptop, and i can't use my video chat in pidgin...what client should i download to be able to use it?  (MSN chat)
[05:13] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j lol
[05:13] <nevets04> Billiard, sudo apt-get install, so package managert I guess
[05:13] <webbb82> i know but when i goto install it it wont let me because nautilus is already installed  and i dont know how to --force-downgrade
[05:13] <Billiard> nevets04: just hit ctrl+c
[05:13] <ron-l-j> I have a big python library :D
[05:13] <nevets04> Billiard, k, thanks
[05:13] <Links2> i want hide join/part messages in weechat
[05:14] <Gaz`> how do i make a short cut in ubuntu i want my home dir icon on desktop
[05:14] <ron-l-j> hahahha my programming logic teacher hates python and will not let go of C++ hahaahhaha
[05:14] <Billiard> webbb82: just add that option to the dpkg -i command, but its forcing it, so it might not work in the end
[05:14] <lockd> webbb82, you installing with dpkg -i ?
[05:14] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : you'll loose lots of time installing the lib, are you sure still wanted to help me ? ^^
[05:14] <Links2> i want hide join/part messages in weechat
[05:15] <webbb82> no how do i do that
[05:15] <webbb82> i have 3 deb file i need to install
[05:15] <ron-l-j> dude I am running an i7 with 10 gigs of ram and a fast connection
[05:15] <ron-l-j> no worries
[05:16] <Billiard> webbb82: dpkg -i file.deb --force-downgrade
[05:16] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : http://code.google.com/p/spynner/wiki/README   I'm trying to see the basic example output. If you want to install it, take care of dependencies, PyQt has also dependencies
[05:16] <Gaz`> hmm can i get ubuntu to scan for wifi? looks like i have to add manually
[05:16] <oldude67> ok, let me see if i got this right, still quite new to doing ssh. i can ssh from this box to my karmic box but not the other way around. it says port 22 is blocked
[05:16] <ekkehart> How can you change what programs start automatically in Kubuntu? I set XScreenSaver-demo to startup automatically, but I have forgotten how I did it. Karmic Koala Kubuntu.
[05:16] <oldude67> shouldnt i be able to go both ways on this?
[05:16] <ron-l-j> I refuse to use qt
[05:16] <ron-l-j> messy
[05:16] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : We can have a private channel for this no ?
[05:16] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:16] <Billiard> Gaz`: if your wireless card is working correctly network manager will scan for you
[05:16] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j ok so forget ^^
[05:16] <ron-l-j> but I can try
[05:16] <Gaz`> it did on 8.04
[05:17] <yigal> can anyone help me getting my touchscreen to work? ty
[05:17] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : the usefull of this lib is that I can execute javascript code from python
[05:17] <ron-l-j> what about mixing python and bash to control out put from the remote host ?
[05:17] <ron-l-j> why not use jython ?
[05:17] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I'm worst with bash commands, but I can type what you want
[05:18] <Gaz`> Billiard in network connections - wireless - i only see add, no scan
[05:18] <webbb82> Billiard, do i need to cd into the dir of my deb file
[05:19] <Links2> i want hide join/part messages in weechat
[05:19] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : spynner is also able to communicate with remote server, with javascript
[05:19] <assoguerozen_sx> guys you know a msn client with nice speed transfers? (i tested pidgin, emesene, mercury, empathy with slow speed and amsn with nice speed and known buggy)
[05:20] <ron-l-j> ok easy fix fandekasp can you make your code output a success string at the end to a log file ?
[05:20] <oldude67> ok if it says port 22 refused connection does that mean its blocked or not setup?
[05:20] <lstarnes> oldude67: it's probably not running or installed
[05:20] <Random832> oldude67, usually just means not set up
[05:20] <Links2> i want hide join/part messages in weechat
[05:20] <Ubiedoodie> I am sure that this is not the right channel but could anyone direct me to a channel for dsl modem issues ?
[05:21] <oldude67> lstarnes, Random832 ty
[05:21] <Billiard> webbb82: that would make it easier
[05:21] <Gaz`> damn it, all this effort and wifi was fino n last one now wont even work
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> Ubiedoodie: normally you contact the ISP for that sort of issue.
[05:21] <BGN> =
[05:22] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : how can I do this ? you speak about python or bash ?
[05:22] <Ubiedoodie> well it is just needing help loging into my modem I am out of options and was wondering if I could get live help
[05:22] <BGN> oohkey
[05:22] <ron-l-j> fandekasp can you say print at the end of the code and write to a file like /home/success ?
[05:22] <assoguerozen_sx> guys you know a msn client with nice speed transfers?
[05:22] <BGN> fuck me this is weird.
[05:22] <ron-l-j> python
[05:22] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : erf why didn't I though about it ? (perhaps because I need to sleep a little sometimes xD)
[05:22] <oldude67> !language | bgn
[05:23] <ron-l-j> code python to create a filee and print success at the end of your program
[05:23] <Links2> i want hide join/part messages in weechat
[05:23] <BGN> oh im sorry sir.
[05:23] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:23] <lstarnes> Links2: try asking in #weechat
[05:23] <BGN> ubuntu is giving me strange sensations.
[05:23] <ron-l-j> hahahahhaha because your thinking hard and really your smart and easy is to easy to be hard
[05:23] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:23] <ron-l-j> hahahhahahha
[05:23] <BGN> i have no idea whatsoever how this is supposed to work.
[05:23] <BGN> ±'
[05:24] <ron-l-j> __import_this__
[05:24] <ron-l-j> hahhaha
[05:24] <thevor> Hi.
[05:24] <ron-l-j> or KISS hahahha
[05:24] <Links2> lstarnes ОК
[05:24] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp you allready know it thats great :D
[05:24] <Links2> quit
[05:24] <thevor> I am running ubuntu, but I'm pretty sure I have the 32 bit version, but have 4 gigs of ram. Is there anyway to check and see if ubuntu is making use of that ram?
[05:24] <thevor> Also. #ubuntuhelp keeps forwarding me here, and I don't know why
[05:25] <lstarnes> thevor: this is the channel for help with ubuntu
[05:25] <lstarnes> thevor: you could check free -m
[05:26] <zerq> do the metacity compositor settings and compiz play nice?
[05:26] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j lol . see this : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153434/ . I need to start xserver, something like /etc/xserver start ?
[05:26] <zilla1> my new ubuntu install is *incredibyl slow* to start an order of magnitude slower than my 900Mhz processor box on the same distro. ths machine should be much faster to boot. runs great when loaded. this is both getting to grub, and after grub loads, and when it says "Booting from drive" the backup version loads pretty well, once i get to the grub menu to choose. is there a way to audit whats...
[05:26] <zilla1> ...taking time during the normal boot? say, like turn on some kindof logging?
[05:26] <FabioTheApe> damn cat is in the christmas tree
[05:26] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp type startx
[05:26] <ron-l-j> hahahahaha
[05:27] <thevor> @lstarnes total 3520, used 578 free 2942...But if I get 9.1 64bit will it run smoother ?
[05:27] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : ok I install xinit
[05:27] <BoBo> how to use this?
[05:27] <lstarnes> thevor: performance would probably be about the same
[05:27] <thevor> Oh ok.
[05:27] <thevor> What ist he benefit of going to 64 then?
[05:27] <lstarnes> thevor: I've never used the 32-bit version
[05:27] <linuxguy2009> Im having a minor issue with 9.10 and the program GFCE Ultra NES emulator. Sound fails to work at all. If its enabled then the game freezes and wont play at all. If its disabled then the game runs perfectly. Would this be a program issue and I shoukd just wait for a bug fix update or is this a pulseaudio issue?
[05:28] <crisbkr> thevor a 32 bit operating system will only support 3.5GB of ram in order to use full 4 GB you should use 64 bit os
[05:28] <lstarnes> thevor: some applications will probably run faster in 64-bit
[05:28] <lstarnes> thevor: plus more memory can be used
[05:28] <woodyjlw> is 9.10 already optimized for amd athlon 64 x2 ? or should I pull any drivers from ati.amd.com?
[05:28] <thevor> Do you two think it's worth upgrading? Or doing a clean install for .5 gb ?
[05:29] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I didn't connect with ssh -X , so http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153435/
[05:29] <thevor> I'm also having some trouble with an external hard drive. Does anyone have some time to hear this one ?
[05:29] <BGN> is there any reason why i hear my speakers going "on and off" all the time? anybody farmiliar with this issue?
[05:29] <sukumar> hi everybody
[05:29] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp fs = open("~/home/txt", "a")
[05:29] <ron-l-j> fs.write(succes!)
[05:29] <ron-l-j> fs.close
[05:30] <ron-l-j> print a
[05:30] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153436   the command is waiting ... what do you advise me to do ?
[05:30] <thevor> In my apartment there is a network setup when I moved in. The people living here have macs, and attached to the wireless router is a 500gb external harddrive (The router is mac). When I plug the exhd into my machine directly, I can access everything fine, but when I try to connect to it through Network->Places   I can see the hard drive, but when I double click to browse can not see any files, and am not able to write to it.
[05:30] <ron-l-j> sweet ! so you have a prompt ?
[05:30] <woodyjlw> is 9.10 already optimized for amd athlon 64 x2 ? or should I pull any drivers from ati.amd.com?
[05:30] <thevor> I'm in the same workgroup as the other users in the apartment who have full access over the wireless network
[05:31] <sukumar> I was unable to connect Internet using my Reliance netconnect cdma 1x. Please help me configuring it
[05:31] <minerale> Hi, I have a dell d430 laptop, with a intel pro/set 4965 wireless device, I've loaded the iwl4965 kernel module but iwconfig does not show any active wireless devices
[05:31] <lstarnes> woodyjlw: there shouldn't be any need for third party drivers
[05:31] <woodyjlw> cool....thanks
[05:31] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j I've killed screen-manager, so I can open another ssh terminal
[05:32] <sukumar> please help me
[05:32] <crisbkr> thevor: thats becos mac doesnt support your disk format try changing it
[05:32] <ron-l-j> in your ssh terminal just type python and your ssh bash should turn into a python interactive session
[05:32] <thevor> crisbkr: Do I need to format and do a clean install to accomplish that?
[05:33] <ron-l-j> you really dont need X you can admin a server with out x
[05:33] <permant> ubuntu 9.10 OS cannot shutdown
[05:33] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[05:33] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I've let the first ssh terminal with command running, I've open new one, but I always have ": cannot connect to X server " with a "python testSpynner.py"
[05:33] <sshc> permant: how can it not?
[05:33] <ron-l-j> but you dont need x
[05:33] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:34] <Coded1> im tying to watch a dvd and totem and vlc don't seem to be able to do it, I can mount /dev/sr0 and ls the contents but totem says "cannot read from source" ive installed all the plugins I could find but no dice any tips?
[05:34] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : thank you but I have to use it if I want to try this spynner lib !
[05:34] <ron-l-j> ok
[05:34] <ron-l-j> then can you sudo bash in the remote host
[05:34] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j, I agree with you, I didn't use xserver.xorg for 1 year O_O
[05:34] <ron-l-j> that will give you root and x access
[05:34] <Reactor> permant: "system halted" message?
[05:34] <ardchoille> Coded1: Did you install libdvdcss2?
[05:34] <lstarnes> Fandekasp: are you using an x server locally?
[05:35] <lstarnes> Fandekasp, ron-l-j: sudo -i is preferred over sudo bash
[05:35] <crisbkr> theor:try going to root user and change the format
[05:35] <Coded1> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:35] <Fandekasp> lstarnes . Do you speak about my client ? I'm with mac os x snow leopard, the X11 is broken until future version 2.4.1 (we are now 2.4.0)
[05:35] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss | Coded1
[05:35] <crisbkr> thevor:try going to root user and change the format
[05:35] <ron-l-j> if you get a root shell you should be able to run x server otherwise you have to go into x 11 and chmod
[05:36] <thevor> crisbkr: Do you think I could find a tutorial on that online?
[05:36] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | Coded1 the libdvdcss2 package is available from the medibuntu repo.
[05:36] <Coded1> will do
[05:36] <lstarnes> ron-l-j: I thought X could run without being root
[05:36] <Billiard> Coded1: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[05:36] <thevor> crisbkr: Not sure what you mean by change the format. I'll need to read up a bit.
[05:36] <Fandekasp> ok ron-l-j could you list me the correct commands ? sorry :S
[05:36] <Billiard> Coded1: dont need to add the mediabuntu repo
[05:36] <ron-l-j> yes but your python script is being blocked by security
[05:36] <ardchoille> Coded1: What Billiard said should work just as well
[05:37] <ron-l-j> you python script does not have permission to start x
[05:37] <ardchoille> Billiard: I always forget about that script, thanks for mentioning it
[05:37] <skpl> can someone tell me why my right click does not work?
[05:37] <woodyjlw> I copied world of warcraft to this pc and it says I do not own the folder and will not let me unlock in permisions
[05:37] <Coded1> ahhh
[05:37] <Coded1> thats doing something
[05:37] <Fandekasp> lstarnes : In fact X can run without being root, yes. But I'm not allowed to connect my server with ssh -X , and I don't know why, I've check everything (I think ^^)
[05:37] <Billiard> woodyjlw: how did you copy it?
[05:37] <yigal> can anyone help me getting my touchscreen to work? ty
[05:37] <ardchoille> Coded1: should be downloadloading the package
[05:37] <ron-l-j> woodyjlw chmod 777 filename
[05:37] <lstarnes> Fandekasp: have you checked the X11 settings in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[05:38] <venger> for xorg any way to force virtual screen size to be equal to resolution?  always picks a huge when i manually put the Modes I want in
[05:38] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : sudo python file.py after chmod 777 file.py ?
[05:38] <lstarnes> Fandekasp: oops, that should be /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:38] <ardchoille> Coded1: When that's done, try restarting totem and see if the dvd plays
[05:38] <Gaz`> can anyone help a newbie get his networking going on ubuntu 9.10 on Sony Vaio TX
[05:38] <Gaz`> worked fine in hardy heron
[05:38] <Fandekasp> lstarnes : of course yes . If you are familiar with X11forwarding, I can follow what you ask to me
[05:39] <woodyjlw> sent fro another pc to here by copy paste into public folder witch I have shared on this end
[05:39] <ron-l-j> fandekasp hold on your ssh has what level of privileges ?
[05:39] <Coded1> ardchoille, Billiard , you guys are the best .... cheers !
[05:39] <ardchoille> :)
[05:40] <Coded1> the ubuntu gods are smiling upon u
[05:40] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : how can I check this ?
[05:40] <Coded1> :)
[05:40] <ron-l-j> are you privileged enough to run xserver with your script ? what permission level is nessisary to start x on the remote host ?
[05:40] <ron-l-j> That is where you are getting the x11 error\
[05:40] <Billiard> woodyjlw: you can take ownership of the files  `sudo chown username:username -R  /pathtofiles/wow`   ,  be careful
[05:41] <ron-l-j> you cannont start x with your script with out codeing in for remote I am reading some python CLI stuff right now
[05:41] <skpl> can someone tell me why my right click does not work?
[05:41] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I arrived to execute the script before my bash bugging , but I couldn't see anything because it was executing in localhost
[05:42] <marek_> pl
[05:42] <bazhang> !pl | marek_
[05:42] <ron-l-j> SCRIPT ERROR
[05:43] <ron-l-j> ONE_LEVEL is calling a function called RALT
[05:43] <ron-l-j> RALDHAS extra arguments
[05:43] <ron-l-j> and KEY map do not match
[05:43] <ardchoille> !guake
[05:43] <minerale> Hi, I have a dell d430 laptop, with a intel pro/set 4965 wireless device, I've loaded the iwl4965 kernel module but iwconfig does not show any active wireless devices
[05:44] <ardchoille> !info guake
[05:44] <crisbkr> thevor: try using Gnome partition editor
[05:44] <minerale> or rather, is there a comprehensive guide to setting up wireless in linux
[05:44] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : what does that mean ?
[05:45] <ron-l-j> do you have the script source ? if so paste it :d
[05:46] <Fandekasp> the spynner example ?
[05:46] <ron-l-j> there is a class called ONE_LEVEL calling a function in your code
[05:46] <Fandekasp> oh ok
[05:46] <ron-l-j> and your erroring on the keymap your k board does not match the config of the script
[05:47] <ron-l-j> your keyboard called RALT has 2 extra symbols
[05:47] <ron-l-j> not fatal to x server but fatal to the exuction of your script :D
[05:48] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I didn't understand everything about what you said ^^
[05:48] <gnuplexian> Hi, for some reason the blender camera hotkeys for views, (numberpad 1-9) don't actually change the views, I think it probably has something to do with compositing
[05:48] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp type ls in your ssh shell
[05:48] <ron-l-j> what does it say ?
[05:49] <Fandekasp> it list the directory file X_x
[05:50] <ron-l-j> you cant even see the file system you have no permissions to do anything there
[05:51] <ron-l-j> can you cd /
[05:51] <ron-l-j> then ls
[05:51] <Fandekasp> ? ron-l-j what are you saying ? I can do everything but not running X11, that's all
[05:51] <gnuplexian> the numberpad keys do not change the camera views, it just moves the mouse cursor, default install of blender on ubuntu, anyone know whats wrong?
[05:51] <ron-l-j> ok
[05:51] <Fandekasp> of course I can do this ron-l-j
[05:51] <ron-l-j> weird you should see X_x
[05:52] <ron-l-j> hahaha
[05:52] <skpl> can someone tell me why my right click does not work?
[05:52] <ron-l-j> can you get a python console ?
[05:52] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : It's just because I'm forbidden to run ssh -X
[05:52] <ron-l-j> in the remote host ?
[05:52] <ron-l-j> ok
[05:52] <ron-l-j> :d
[05:52] <ron-l-j> I am very used to being root
[05:52] <Fandekasp> lstarnes, why did you go away :'( lol
[05:52] <ron-l-j> :d
[05:53] <lstarnes> Fandekasp: I couldn't find anything further to say
[05:53] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I can sudo su without problem , but root can't do a startx
[05:53] <Fandekasp> lstarnes ok lol
[05:53] <ron-l-j> are you fililar with import sys
[05:53] <lstarnes> Fandekasp: if X11Forwarding is set to yes, it should work
[05:53] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j yes for a sys.path, when I install new lib ^^
[05:54] <ron-l-j> and num_arguments = len(sys.argv) -1
[05:54] <Fandekasp> lstarnes, but it's not my case :'(
[05:54] <skpl> does anyone have an idea why my right click does not work in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:54] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp does not have permission to startx
[05:54] <administrator> hi
[05:55] <Random832> ardchoille, i just installed that guake thing you mentioned, but it doesn't work
[05:55] <J333> does anyone know why after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 totem will open a vid file but will not play it (fast forward works), play button does nothing
[05:55] <Random832> it flashes for a split second and disappears whenever i hit the key
[05:55] <ardchoille> Random832: press the F12 key
[05:55] <Guest86404> hello
[05:55] <BGN> guys anybody around with the pulsating sound problem?
[05:55] <konbon> howdy :)
[05:55] <ardchoille> Random832: you have to run it first, I believe it's in Applications > Accessories
[05:55] <Fandekasp> ok ron-l-j , I stop there .... I don't arrive to think more, I need to go to bed ^^ Thank you a lot for your help during all this time !
[05:56] <Random832> um, yeah, it is running
[05:56] <Random832> and i hit the key
[05:56] <Random832>  and it flashes on the screen for a split second then vanishes again
[05:56] <ardchoille> Random832: Are  you running compiz?
[05:56] <owen1> how to play an swf file from the browser's cache? i get this in mplayer: '[swf @ 0x883f748]Compressed SWF format not supported'
[05:56] <Guest86404> any xubumtu user here need help on how to see my windows partition
[05:56] <Fandekasp> Hope tomorrow it will be easiler to understand and solve the problem
[05:56] <Random832> no
[05:56] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp you can write sys.stderr to your console out put on ssh :D
[05:56] <Random832> metacity, non-compositing
[05:56] <ron-l-j> hahha you have to do it the python way :D
[05:56] <slimjimflim> anybody used `make menuconfig` ?
[05:56] <ron-l-j> another time
[05:56] <ardchoille> Random832: I use WindowMaker as my environment and it works well here. Is there an icon in your tray?
[05:57] <ron-l-j> study python and sys and input and out put
[05:57] <gnuplexian> ah nevermind shift+numlock disables the numberpad until you press shift+numlock again to re-enable it
[05:57] <konbon> Guest86404: yes
[05:57] <Random832> what part of _it is running and the f12 key does do *something*_ are you not getting?
[05:57] <ron-l-j> IMPORT OUT PARSE
[05:57] <konbon> Oh , he left -_-
[05:57] <princezuda> how do you move and export a $path?
[05:57] <gnuplexian> must have pressed it by accident somehow
[05:57] <lstarnes> princezuda: export PATH=$PATH:/new/folder/in/path
[05:57] <ron-l-j> doing things the python way is so much eaiser
[05:58] <ardchoille> Random832: Use the tray icon to tweak the prefs
[05:58] <Random832> ok, somehow it's not getting my shell right - setting it to /bin/sh works
[05:58] <Guest13530> hello any can help me  finding my windows partition i use wubi installer
[05:58] <ardchoille> Random832: Ah, good job
[05:58] <ron-l-j> why are people so worried when the answer is in python and starting x when they have no reason to and controling output to a console to know your working on your remote host
[05:58] <ron-l-j> it is just give me a command to fix everything dont make me learn anything
[05:58] <ron-l-j> hahahahahhaha
[05:59] <ron-l-j> sometimes I think rtfm
[05:59] <ron-l-j> basic standard out put in python
[05:59] <ron-l-j> hahahahahahahha
[05:59] <ron-l-j> ahhahahhaha
[06:00] <konbon> Guest13530: should be in root / media / hdd name
[06:00] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I don't understand what you say. I've install xserver.xorg just to try the spynner lib, which can't work without it !
[06:00] <ron-l-j> modify the out put of your code to use optparse
[06:00] <blankhead> does anyone know how to put the totem browser plugin in repeat mode?
[06:01] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : I'm sorry but I don't understand you ^^  I'm not as good to do this by myself
[06:01] <ron-l-j> its ok you can do it
[06:01] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : could you help me ?
[06:01] <ron-l-j> and you can to it when you talk to the server admin and have permission to run x
[06:02] <ron-l-j> I will :D
[06:02] <Guest13530> can any one help me?
[06:02] <ron-l-j> its not your fault and your doing a great job
[06:02] <ron-l-j> now your using java script and python and want to see what in X
[06:02] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : Could you give me 30 minutes of free time to go take a shower and think a little about something else ? I'm totally borred xD
[06:03] <noewelleskie> awts
[06:03] <ron-l-j> Fandekasp yes I am just chilling here with some python and coffee :d
[06:03] <zilla1> ubuntu takes a long time to load. (grub1). when i find /boot/grub/stage1, it doesnt list the location of it on my ubuntu boot partition. it still boots, just really slowly.  what problem is this indicative of?
[06:04] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : ok I'll come later. Really thank you , you're too helpful
[06:04] <noewelleskie> hope can any help me too
[06:04] <ron-l-j> I am ubuntu
[06:04] <noewelleskie> ron can i as for help
[06:05] <ron-l-j> humanity for the people :D
[06:05] <ryan_mccain> I recently purcahsed an acer aspire one w/ windows 7 on it and am looking to put ubuntu remix on it.. i burnt the iso to my thumbdrive and it starts to boot the Os config but stops just saying READY..  should i get the .img?
[06:05] <owen1> how to play an swf file from the browser's cache? i get this in mplayer: '[swf @ 0x883f748]Compressed SWF format not supported'
[06:06] <noewelleskie> how can i see my other windows partition in xubuntu?
[06:07] <ron-l-j> yes I have an aspire one with unr :D
[06:07] <ron-l-j> nice
[06:07] <noewelleskie> can any body see my msg i think ur not
[06:07] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: wee see you
[06:07] <merciless> can anyone tell me where i can know more about webservers.....like configuring them......setting up many websites in a VPS and..managing the DNS...etc....
[06:07] <ron-l-j> ryan you can do it in windows and make a bootable usb with Unetbootin
[06:07] <noewelleskie> ahh
[06:07] <ron-l-j> It is all poitn and click easy :D
[06:07] <noewelleskie> sorry im new
[06:07] <ron-l-j> if you have a usb
[06:08] <ryan_mccain> ron, that is the app i used.. when it started to boot from the usb stick it started to do its thing then hung for a minute on READY
[06:08] <ryan_mccain> perhaps i didnt wait long enough???
[06:08] <ron-l-j> ok did you use the .img option in unet bootin
[06:08] <noewelleskie> lstarnes: can you help me?
[06:09] <Fandekasp> lol ron-l-j, one of my coloc is taking his shower, so I have to wait after him to take one xD
[06:09] <ron-l-j> you can use the python usbimagecreator it is made for .img files
[06:09] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: I don't know how to do what you're trying to do, sorry
[06:09] <noewelleskie> ohh wahahaha ok thnx
[06:10] <lucas_> i get this when i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a... dpkg-trigger: dpkg-trigger debe llamarse desde un programa de un desarrollador (o con la opción --by-package) whats does it mean?
[06:10] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: do you have more than one windows partition?
[06:10] <noewelleskie> i use wubi to install xubuntu
[06:10] <noewelleskie> wubi.exe
[06:10] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: I downloaded the ISO.. i cant find the .img
[06:10] <ron-l-j> fandekasp you wanted to try a new library to have remote x sessions with python. to do work ? what is the goal ?
[06:10] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: wubi handles things differently than a regular installation on a separate partition
[06:10] <ron-l-j> Ryan I will find the .img
[06:11] <noewelleskie> hmmmm
[06:11] <ryan_mccain> is that what u used, ron-l-j ?
[06:11] <noewelleskie> wahahaha
[06:11] <noewelleskie> i just want to install Heroes of Newerth my linux installer of the game in on the other partition
[06:12] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j : what ? not at all. I want to try a new library to parse and execute javascript received by my python program from remote website. But this f***ing library need Qt and show gui output, that's why I tried all this
[06:12] <noewelleskie> just want to get the .sh file
[06:12] <ron-l-j> Ryan here is the super easy way to do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR/Installation/Easy
[06:12] <merciless> can anyone tell me where i can know more about webservers.....like configuring them......setting up many websites in a VPS and..managing the DNS...etc....
[06:12] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: it looks like unetbootin only has an option for ISO..?
[06:12] <ron-l-j> forget unet bootin
[06:12] <zilla1> how can i track down what is slowing my boot? is there a log (besides dmesg)
[06:12] <noewelleskie> any one play heroes of Newerth here on linux?
[06:12] <ron-l-j> and use usbimage creator
[06:12] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: are you on 904 or 910?
[06:13] <ron-l-j> it works with .img and is fool proof
[06:13] <manug> noewelleskie, it doesn't work on my video card=(
[06:13] <ryan_mccain> im reading that link. thx
[06:13] <ron-l-j> either works fine
[06:13] <noewelleskie> awts
[06:13] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:13] <noewelleskie> really
[06:13] <ron-l-j> 9.04 is better for now
[06:13] <noewelleskie> hope it work on my vcard
[06:13] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: ahhhhhhhh
[06:13] <ron-l-j> it has a full desktop option
[06:13] <manug> there is a native linux client
[06:13] <noewelleskie> how to whisper hehe
[06:13] <noewelleskie> like wat u did red text
[06:13] <noewelleskie> hehe
[06:13] <Fandekasp> ok ron-l-j bathroom is free, i come back later.
[06:13] <manug> you make the other person's name appear in what you write, noewelleskie
[06:14] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: say the other person's name at the start of the message
[06:14] <ron-l-j> ok cool FAN
[06:14] <lstarnes> noewelleskie: or type the first couple letters of it then press the TAB key
[06:14] <ron-l-j> Merciless
[06:14] <om26er_> !enter | noewelleskie
[06:14] <ron-l-j> You Want apache2
[06:14] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: 904 is lucid, yes?
[06:14] <noewelleskie> manug, testing
[06:14] <noewelleskie> aw
[06:14] <merciless> ron-l-j; yes
[06:14] <ron-l-j> ryan 9.04 has a real desktop
[06:15] <manug> noewelleskie, it looks red for me
[06:15] <ron-l-j> but 9.10 is more pretty
[06:15] <ron-l-j> ok merciless
[06:15] <noewelleskie> sorry guys just a noob here sorry if i disturb
[06:15] <ryan_mccain> ron, i dont see an .img file in that dir. only iso
[06:16] <ron-l-j> Merciless sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:17] <GamerKnight> yo
[06:17] <ItchyCube> i've got a usb dvb-t tuner question
[06:17] <ItchyCube> anyone got some knowledge on the subject?
[06:18] <noewelleskie> manug, ill add  you on my list bro
[06:18] <merciless> ron-l-j; ohh no...i meant....i have been given the responsibility to host a few websites of our college departments in any VPS....and there's one website hosted in a shared hosting service....so i need to shift it from there to any VPS....so before i get an account from a VPS....i wanted to know the details....
[06:18] <ItchyCube> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339869
[06:18] <dominos> es/clear
[06:19] <dominos> hi
[06:19] <ron-l-j> oh the config details for apache 2
[06:19] <Links2>  /filter add joinquit * irc_join,irc_part,irc_quit *
[06:19] <dominos> How do I enable the IP Stack within the router? - I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 with the latest GNS3, as well as the latest IOS, v15.
[06:20] <ron-l-j> you  can read the apache documentation here is a guide http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/
[06:20] <ryan_mccain> ron, i still dont see the img file.. is the iso file my problem? does it matter which i use?
[06:21] <GodfatherofEire> Guys, how to I end a program, not using kill or pkill (which would send the sigkill signal), and instead send the sigterm signal?
[06:21] <ron-l-j> ryan one sec I will cook one up :D
[06:21] <dominos> Press the close button
[06:21] <dominos> !!!
[06:21] <ItchyCube> kill -15
[06:21] <ryan_mccain> ron, mucho gracios
[06:21] <GenericBox> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have it all set up but my sound is still not working. I have searched the forums and Google but cannot find any support. I am using an LG LW65 Express laptop and C-Media High Definition Audio Sound card. Can anyone help?
[06:21] <GodfatherofEire> itchycube, anything where it could do that by name?
[06:21] <GodfatherofEire> Like, for say, compiz?
[06:22] <dominos> GenericBox: Try 9.10
[06:22] <ItchyCube> ps -ef | grep "string"
[06:22] <merciless> ron-l-j; ohh thanks.....are you sure it has all what i require
[06:22] <ItchyCube> to get the process id of the process
[06:22] <ItchyCube> then
[06:22] <GodfatherofEire> itchycube, i know
[06:22] <ItchyCube> kill -15 pid
[06:22] <FloodBot1> ItchyCube: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22]  * jackey Chinese incorrect codes in nirc
[06:22] <GodfatherofEire> but is there any equvalent to pkill?
[06:22] <GamerKnight> Hey people, i have a Vbox VM with a network share, how can i access this from the terminal ? please thankyou :P
[06:22] <ryan_mccain> ron, also.. my linux laptop died which is why i have this POS (windows).. so i need to use windows tools to get the .img file on my stick..
[06:22] <ItchyCube> inside a program?
[06:22] <ItchyCube> i have never user pkill???
[06:23] <GodfatherofEire> itchycube, actually, pkill -15 should do just fine
[06:23] <GenericBox> I have found a thread at ubuntuforums.org but am unable / lack the know-how to follow the instructions. How do I "Remove ALL audio devices"
[06:23] <ItchyCube> cool
[06:23] <APERSON> I have no /etc/acpi/ac.d , is there a reason for this?
[06:23] <ItchyCube> have a look at your options for kill
[06:23] <ItchyCube> easy way if you have htop
[06:23] <ItchyCube> run it up
[06:23] <GodfatherofEire> crap
[06:23] <ItchyCube> hit F9 to kill something - and it will give you the list on the left side
[06:24] <GodfatherofEire> I think. I accidentally just killed metacity too
[06:24] <GodfatherofEire> oi
[06:24] <ryan_mccain> are there more issues than normal w/ 9.10? is that why ppl are hanging with 9.04?
[06:24] <GodfatherofEire> my luck
[06:24] <CarlFK> is there a place to set the HD to spin down after no use?
[06:24] <ron-l-j> Ryan the img can be downloaded here and you can use the image writer on the same page to write it
[06:24] <ron-l-j> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR/Installation/Hard
[06:24] <freku> i dont have /etc/acpi/ac.d either, but no problems
[06:25] <ron-l-j> From Windows Command Prompt using flashnul
[06:25] <ron-l-j> i used flashnul as well :D
[06:25] <nomad77> !hdparm |CarlFK
[06:25] <ron-l-j> hard way is WAY more fun
[06:25] <APERSON> freku, I want to use it though
[06:25] <noewelleskie> bye for now nid to restart
[06:25] <ron-l-j> the ubuntu image writer is very easy way :D
[06:25] <GodfatherofEire> ... Yep, I did, I (temporarily) broke metacity/GNOME/X11
[06:26] <APERSON> I'm not saying I have any problems
[06:26] <ryan_mccain> ron, you da man.. lemme try it out.. thx
[06:26] <CarlFK> nomad77:   thanks
[06:26] <GenericBox> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have it all set up but my sound is still not working. I have searched the forums and Google but cannot find any support. I am using an LG LW65 Express laptop and C-Media High Definition Audio Sound card. I have found an (outdated) thread on a forum with instructions but am too newb to follow them. It recommends to "Load the module with a model specified" then "Unmute center/subwoofer". Can 
[06:26] <snuffy47> looking for some help installing an older linksys pcmcia wireless card
[06:27] <ron-l-j> mersiless there is nothing more to know than apache2 it is the best web server I have ever used and the docs are great !
[06:27] <SwedeMike> GenericBox: start by installing pavucontrol and see if everything looks ok there.
[06:27] <freebsdlover> %%% any ladies wanna chat?
[06:27] <GenericBox> SwedeMike: Thanks, I will try that.
[06:27] <freebsdlover> %%% just wanna see how technical ladies can get with software.
[06:27] <zilla1> look and see if it woks under ndiswrpper snuffy47
[06:27] <APERSON> freebsdlover, this is not the place.
[06:28] <ryan_mccain> ron, unr-1.0.1.img ??
[06:28] <freebsdlover> %%% ok
[06:28] <om26er_> Freeaqingme: this is no chat room. this is a support channel
[06:28] <ron-l-j> snuffy47 sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:28] <freebsdlover> %%% oh ok
[06:28] <zilla1> fopr more than 1 reason
[06:28] <snuffy47> zilla1, rgr will check it out
[06:28] <ron-l-j> snuffy then sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:28] <SwedeMike> freebsdlover: why are you doing %%% on the first of each line?
[06:29] <APERSON> SwedeMike, it differentiates his messages
[06:29] <NeoCicak> hi all.. i'm trying to understand why my 9.10 bootime is significantly slower than 9.04 (on same machine).. here is the output of my dmesg... i'm just trying to understand what the root cause of the problem is....http://paste.ubuntu.com/330010/
[06:29] <kazu_> test.
[06:29] <om26er_> NeoCicak: plz fully update you system.
[06:29] <ryan_mccain> ron, is unr-1.0.1.img the correct .img? i was expecting the file to be something like xxxx904.img..?
[06:29] <snuffy47> ron-l-j,  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils seems to be replaced with -common
[06:29] <NeoCicak> om26er: i already did
[06:30] <GenericBox> Using Pidgin Internet Messenger IRC is it possible to disable/hide the enter/leave messages and system messages?
[06:30] <APERSON> GenericBox, box
[06:30] <APERSON> err... GenericBox yes
[06:30] <ron-l-j> yes it was baeta when it was created so it has a low version number ryan
[06:30] <GenericBox> Aperson: How? I'm a newbie.
[06:30] <APERSON> GenericBox, I believe it to be a plugin
[06:31] <GenericBox> Aperson: Oh okay. How would I get it?
[06:31] <ron-l-j> snuffy47 thats fine it is just a big package of wireless drivers
[06:31] <APERSON> GenericBox, you should have it already
[06:31] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:32] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: Got it.. that is the ver you use?
[06:32] <snuffy47> ron-l-j, once its installed should I reboot
[06:32] <GenericBox> Aperson: It doesn't appear to me like I do :S
[06:32] <ron-l-j> snuffy47 no need to reboot
[06:32] <ron-l-j> drivers go auto in linux
[06:32] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:32] <APERSON> GenericBox, pardon?
[06:32] <ron-l-j> ryan yes I did the same thing
[06:32] <blz> Is there an equivalent of Acronis TrueImage for ubuntu?  I've heard good things about clonezilla and dd_rescue, but I'm looking for something with compression, scheduling, and incremental backup capabilities.  Does this exist?
[06:33] <snuffy47> ron-l-j, hmmm card has no lights :(
[06:33] <GenericBox> Aperson: I can't find any menu or option that allows me to hide the system/entry messages
[06:33] <ardchoille> blz: PartImage does gzip and bzip compression
[06:33] <APERSON> GenericBox, go into your plugins, you have to enable it
[06:33] <linuxguy2009> blz: partimage is cool for backups too.
[06:33] <ron-l-j> snuffy can you type lspci in the command line ?
[06:33] <blz> partimage... I'll look into it
[06:33] <blz> anybody know if it does incremental backups?
[06:33] <ron-l-j> look for your wireless card info
[06:34] <linuxguy2009> blz: look in software center for backup. There are many I believe.
[06:34] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | blz: System Rescue LiveCD has PartImage on it
[06:34] <sclaha> can i install xp home from internet???
[06:34] <blz> hmm no ext4 support though
[06:34] <meenu> sclaha: No. you cannot install XP from internet
[06:34] <linuxguy2009> blz: Im not sure many of them have ext4 support yet.
[06:35] <ryan_mccain> ron-l-j: thx.. downloading now. willl try this method.. is your webcam working?
[06:35] <NeoCicak> om26er: i already did
[06:35] <NeoCicak> hi all.. i'm trying to understand why my 9.10 bootime is significantly slower than 9.04 (on same machine).. here is the output of my dmesg... i'm just trying to understand what the root cause of the problem is....http://paste.ubuntu.com/330010/
[06:35] <blz> linuxguy2009:  aah good point. it's still pretty new
[06:35] <ardchoille> blz: The PartImage app on the LiveCD has ext4 support
[06:35] <APERSON> GenericBox, http://imgur.com/TSQj1.png
[06:35] <ron-l-j> ryan it works out of the box :d
[06:35] <linuxguy2009> blz: I simple drag and drop of your home folder to an external drive is so easy to do.
[06:35] <GenericBox> Aperson: Ah, there we done it. Thanks :D
[06:35] <blz> ardchoille:  you sure? their website says they don't support it
[06:35] <snuffy47> ron-l-j, the lights come on after I restart but it freezes at the loading screen before this install.   Currently it is not showing up
[06:35] <Itai_Michaelson> Hi, I have ubuntu /win7 in a dual boot with Grub. I bought a new disc and would like to transfer both windows and ubuntu to the new disc (use the old one as back up) is there a simple way of doing it. The new disc is bigger than the old one
[06:35] <blz> linuxguy2009:  yeah, i do like the idea of byte-for-byte backup though
[06:35] <ron-l-j> hahaha the great thing about netbook remix is there is only a small amount of hardware support
[06:35] <sclaha> can i install xp os from internet????????
[06:35] <GenericBox> Aperson: Now if only I could get my sound to work and this thing would be running perfectly!
[06:35] <lstarnes> sclaha: no
[06:35] <ron-l-j> so it works great !
[06:36] <lstarnes> sclaha: doing so would probably be illegal
[06:36] <SwedeMike> Itai_Michaelson: boot livecd, dd the old drive to the new drive and you should be fine.
[06:36] <lstarnes> sclaha: and this channel is only for support with ubuntu
[06:36] <scunizi> Itai_Michaelson: clonezilla will do that easily for you
[06:36] <ardchoille> blz: Look at their changelog, the 1.3.0) 2009-09-14: entry: "Updated sys-fs/e2fsprogs to 1.41.9 (ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem tools) "
[06:36] <linuxguy2009> blz: byet for byte is what dd does and it is very unefficient use of space unless you pipe it to gzip etc.
[06:36] <blz> ardchoille:  indeed =)
[06:36] <erik__> is it possible to get advanced desktop effects working under vmware
[06:37] <erik__> or 3d acceleration at all
[06:37] <ron-l-j> snuffy you need to open a terminal and type lspci to get your wireless info
[06:37] <scunizi> erik__: might be easier asking in #vmware
[06:37] <ardchoille> blz: I use the livecd to clone one system and install the image on the other 10 computers. I also backup my system weekly with the livecd
[06:37] <linuxguy2009> blz: Your probably not gonna get a byte for byte incremental backup solution cause the file system has to be unmounted. So not possible.
[06:38] <blz> linuxguy2009:  i realize that linux is not windows, but doesn't acronis do byte-for-byte on a mounted filesystem?
[06:38] <Itai_Michaelson> scunizi, is that a live cd? it will copy grub as well? if i take th eold disc out i can still boot?
[06:38] <ron-l-j> ardchoille using parted you can mirror drives
[06:38] <fakeer> how to add trackers in a downloading torrent in Vuze?
[06:38] <linuxguy2009> blz: Apples to Oranges
[06:38] <GenericBox> Add/Remove Applications is not responding/stuck as disabled with a loading icon -- how do I force quit it?
[06:38] <blz> yeah i suppose so
[06:38] <ardchoille> ron-l-j: That one is on my list of "things to check out"
[06:38] <ryan_mccain> nice.. i cant wait to rid myself of windows 7..
[06:38] <ryan_mccain> utter crap
[06:38] <blz> maybe i should just keep an open mind and look at other backup solutions
[06:39] <linuxguy2009> blz: Why would you want to backup empty sectors anyways?
[06:39] <Fandekasp> ron-l-j, I'm here, tell me when you're available for me :)
[06:39] <Madpilot> GenericBox, try clicking the X button (top right corner) four or five times
[06:39] <scunizi> Itai_Michaelson: clonezilla or partimage will make a mirror image of a partition/drive.. partimage will only do it one partition at a time.. not sure about clonezilla.. might be able to do the entire drive in one shot
[06:39] <blz> linuxguy2009:  well i don't.  I really just want to back up the entire system. config files, apps, data, etc...
[06:39] <ardchoille> blz: If you're looking for incremental backups of a mounted fs, try pybackpack
[06:39] <GenericBox> Madpilot: Clicked it a hundred, nothing happens ;)
[06:39] <ron-l-j> ardchoille http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html
[06:39] <freku> Right-click a torrent in Vuze, Advanced -> Tracker/Torrent -> Add Tracker URL
[06:39] <blz> archoille:  i'll look at that now, thanks
[06:39] <ardchoille> ron-l-j: Thanks for the link :)
[06:39] <Itai_Michaelson> scunizi, thanks , will have a look
[06:40] <ardchoille> blz: I believe it's in the repos
[06:40] <prime_> Do you all like Gnome 2.28?
[06:40] <zilla1> it takes over an hour to load 9.04 on an AMD 3500+ 1GB RAM rig at times. other times it comes up immediately. What would prompt that?
[06:40] <linuxguy2009> blz: Back In Time is mentioned by Robby Ferguson on category5.tv and its supposed to look for new files on the system and back em up for you. Check that out.
[06:40] <ron-l-j> ardchoille no prob it takes a little practice but you will be a disc master on any system you can use cigwin to use bash on windows :D
[06:40] <blz> linuxguy2009:  that sounds very interesting actually
[06:40] <blz> i'll look around a bit
[06:40] <blz> thanks for the tips guys
[06:40] <Madpilot> GenericBox, start a terminal, try "killall software-center"
[06:41] <prime_> I use Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12
[06:41] <ardchoille> ron-l-j: I haven't touched Windows in 8 years ;)
[06:41] <linuxguy2009> blz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrsBgfz9xDk
[06:41] <lucas_> i want to reconfigure all packages, but i cant run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a it gives me some error with dpkg-trigger --by-package thing
[06:41] <prime_> ardchoille, Win7 is good
[06:41] <ron-l-j> nice I have to for work and school being a network guy you have to use winBlows and M$
[06:41] <UbuntoJO> Grsync is what I use to back up.....nothing proprietary, copy and paste to restore.
[06:41] <bazhang> !ot | prime_
[06:41] <GenericBox> Madpilot: "software-center: no process killed"
[06:41] <albech> if i wasnt addicted to MMORPGs I wouldnt have been using windows at all for 10 years
[06:41] <blz> Oh and another question, unrelated to the first:  I really like the win7 feature where you can drag a window to the left/right edge and it'll resize to take up half the screen.  Is tehre any way to replicate this in ubuntu?
[06:42] <blz> like some sort of compiz script maybe?
[06:42] <Madpilot> GenericBox, very strange. that's what it's identified as in my processes list
[06:42] <prime_> bazhang, I got you.
[06:42] <lucas_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/330020/  --> please help!
[06:42] <ardchoille> blz: I just read an article about that for the Linux world, but can't remember the app name
[06:42] <linuxguy2009> blz: Compiz plugin named Grid does just that with simple numpad keystrokes.
[06:42] <ron-l-j> ok I am off to python land for a while
[06:42] <Itai_Michaelson> scunizi, it seems clonezilla can do the whole disc , thats what i wanted , thank you
[06:43] <blz> linuxguy2009:  but it's keystrokes only?  i guess that's better than nothing
[06:43] <scunizi> Itai_Michaelson: np :)
[06:43] <prime_> I'd like to admin two other Ubuntu boxes from my current box but I don't know of something "group policy" like for Ubuntu-can anyone help
[06:44] <lucas_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/330020/  no idea with this?
[06:44] <ron-l-j> get yourself a can of pork soda ! youll be feeling just fine
[06:44] <linuxguy2009> blz: CTRL+ALT+numpad4 will switch the window to left side of screen and goes between 1/2, 1/3 of screen etc.
[06:44] <ron-l-j> nothing like sitting around the house sippin that kansas wine
[06:44] <blz> linuxguy2009: hmm no numpad though
[06:44] <blz> (laptop_
[06:44] <blz> )
[06:44] <blz> oh well, i'll keep looking there too
[06:45] <GenericBox> What was the name of that sound app someone recommended I download?
[06:45] <linuxguy2009> blz: If grid gets updated with screen edge optiosn then the keystrokes are the only option at the moment.
[06:45] <linuxguy2009> blz: set your own keystrokes.
[06:45] <blz> lol yes, good point
[06:46] <linuxguy2009> blz: I use that plugin all of the time when multitasking instead of manually resizing all my windows to see them all.
[06:46] <ron-l-j> REcording ?
[06:46] <switch263> anyone have an ati radeon x1600 working w/ the proprietary drivers?
[06:46] <ron-l-j> run around the house like nature boy !
[06:47] <linuxguy2009> blz: BTW Im sure the grid plugin does much more than win7 does. It can split the screen in 1/4, 1/3, 1/2.
[06:47] <ron-l-j> ATI please lspci in the command line
[06:47] <ron-l-j> and run an ati serch on your video card type
[06:47] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:47] <prime_> anyone?
[06:47] <ron-l-j> PRIME you want ssh
[06:47] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:47] <NeoCicak> helo... does anyone know what ppdev is, and why it is taking a long time to load during boot time? and how to disable it?
[06:47] <blz> yeah it doesn't seem half bad, i'll try it out in a second
[06:48] <linuxguy2009> prime_: What do you want to do to the other machines? Manage them all from yours?
[06:48] <switch263> ron-l-j, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600]
[06:48] <prime_> linuxguy2009, yes
[06:48] <les> switch263: if you're running karmic ati dropped support for RV500 series cards from fglrx
[06:48] <switch263> so ... what. i have to reinstall 9.04?
[06:49] <switch263> then i can use fglrx?
[06:49] <lucas_> how can i reconfigure all my installed packages?
[06:49] <linuxguy2009> prime_: Simply set them up with remote desktop and you can even set them to be controlled. Its quite easy.
[06:49] <les> or just use the foss ati driver, that's what i'm using for my x1600
[06:49] <ron-l-j> ok switch I will take a look
[06:49] <GenericBox> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have it all set up but my sound is still not working. I am using an LG LW65 Express laptop and C-Media High Definition Audio Sound card. Can anyone help?
[06:49] <switch263> les, i cant get wow to work in wine, dont suppose you play wow, do you?
[06:49] <les> switch263: not for a while sadly!
[06:50] <switch263> yeah, i cant get it to work, and it all seems to be tied to the graphics drivers :-/
[06:50] <GenericBox> I installed PulseAudio Volume Control as recommended but not sure where to go from here.
[06:50] <snuffy47> ron-l-j, you still here
[06:50] <prime_> linuxguy2009, I can remotedesktop fine but I mean to do other things, I guess I could just ssh to them and do stuff from the command line.
[06:50] <snuffy47> ron-l-j, up card in and lights came on and froze up putter
[06:51] <linuxguy2009> prime_: No need just remote desktop and use there machine.
[06:51] <lucas_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/330020/
[06:51] <ron-l-j> all pre x1900 cards have been discontinued by ATI, and are not supported by the Catalyst 9.4 drivers (the only proprietary drivers compatible with the Xorg version shipped with Ubuntu).
[06:51] <Dessan> prime_, are you asking more from a Active Directory/Netware standpoint etc?
[06:51] <NeoCicak> helo... does anyone know what ppdev is, and why it is taking a long time to load during boot time? and how to disable it?
[06:51] <ron-l-j> switch263 your sucking with that card
[06:52] <prime_> linuxguy2009, yeah, I'm looking for a way to make a change to a setting in file and the rest of the networked computer just get it.
[06:52] <ron-l-j> switch i had a problem like that before I cannont write you a hardware driver from scratch
[06:52] <switch263> ron-l-j, indeed, but an upgrades not in the near future. so .. guess i'm off to either downgrade xorg or something.
[06:52] <prime_> Dessan, Yes sir, you got it.
[06:52] <switch263> ron-l-j, i wouldnt expect you to, hah.
[06:52] <linuxguy2009> prime_: What? In english now?
[06:52] <switch263> i'll figure it out, you confirmed my suspicions, thanks.
[06:52] <ron-l-j> look for a list of compatable cards and maybe you can trade on a linux user group
[06:53] <ron-l-j> look for  LUG in your area
[06:53] <linuxguy2009> prime_: You mean liek sharing files?
[06:53] <linuxguy2009> prime_: Ubuntu One
[06:53] <ron-l-j> snuffy
[06:53] <GenericBox> I am running PulseAudio Volume Meter and running music through RythmBox - the Volume Meter shows there IS music playing / volume --- but I am not hearing anything.
[06:53] <ron-l-j> lspci from the command line and tell me what it says
[06:54] <prime_> I'm looking for something like "group policy" but for linux
[06:54] <Dessan> prime_, Its not a walk in the park but it can be done.
[06:54] <linuxguy2009> prime_: Are you trying to make a file on one PC and have it copied to the others automatically? That what you mean?
[06:55] <Dessan> prime_, This forum post covers some ideas about how to go about it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=635015
[06:56] <prime_> linuxguy2009, Dessan  you guys covered it
[06:56] <Dessan> prime_, Also the other (but costly kinda) alternative at this point is things like Landscape http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape
[06:56] <ron-l-j> snuffy ?
[06:56] <GenericBox> Can someone please help me with my sound issue?
[06:56] <linuxguy2009> prime_: Save the file to Ubuntu One and just setup your Ubuntu One account on multiple machines. It will automatically sync to as many machines as you need.
[06:56] <Dessan> prime_, between those two links you should be on the right step forward
[06:57] <Dessan> linuxguy2009, He is trying to be much more like active directory than that. He wants the users to do nothing and it just work.
[06:57] <snuffy47> any help out there with a linksys pcmcia wpc11 card ver 3
[06:58] <prime_> Dessan, you got it. Look into this for a small 4 computer setup
[06:58] <linuxguy2009> Dessan: Yeah I know. Ubuntu One just works. No need for the users to do anything but look in the ubuntu one folder thats it.
[06:58] <ritesh> hey guys , what can i use to for remote desktop connection , to connect to someother server.
[06:58] <ritesh> connect to server ?
[06:59] <sidd> hello everyone hope all of you are fine...you have helped me a lot ...thax for that
[06:59] <linuxguy2009> ritesh: I beleieve that requires an SSH server or something.
[06:59] <mickster04> ritish internet>remote-desktop-vierwer?
[06:59] <ron-l-j> ssh to anothr server
[06:59] <mickster04> ritesh, i havqe just set up a server so might be of use?
[06:59] <djnvl> What about VNC?
[07:00] <bbB> Can I use IRC on Pidgin ?
[07:00] <zcat[1]> ritesh:  ssh tunnel the correct port (5900 iirc?) then use remote desktop ... ?
[07:00] <linuxguy2009> bbB: yep
[07:00] <Dessan> prime_, It can be done don't fear. However do know it is not easy like microsoft though you will learn a lot on the way.
[07:00] <B4R74zy> plz go 2             http://sites.google.com/site/affiliateshope            &  click  on ads
[07:00] <mickster04> well the defulat app (remote dsktop viewer) which is included in ubuntu does both vnc and ssh
[07:00] <zcat[1]> 'remote desktop' in ubuntu is vnc...
[07:00] <Reactor> bbB: yh
[07:00] <Dessan> B4R74zy, do not do that.
[07:01] <mickster04> zcat[1], it also does ssh kinda
[07:01] <djnvl> bbB of course.
[07:01] <bbB> Please advise me.
[07:01] <mickster04> bb8 tho imo xchat is better than pidgin for it
[07:01] <zcat[1]> mickster04:  yeah, that too.. but I prefer to juset use ssh from the sell ;)
[07:01] <GenericBox> I am a newbie and my sound isn't working - I don't know why. Can anyone help me?
[07:01] <B4R74zy> Dessan, go to the site and click on ads and i woln't
[07:01] <mickster04> zcat[1], yeah me too
[07:01] <sidd> now there is some problem ..when i installed ubuntu it was fast as hell ...but after 15 days or so it slowes now ...what can i do ....i am sure that there are things to be cleared or deleted or some maintenance process please tell me
[07:01] <snuffy47> any help out there with a linksys pcmcia wpc11 card ver 3
[07:02] <sidd>  now there is some problem ..when i installed ubuntu it was fast as hell ...but after 15 days or so it slowes now ...what can i do ....i am sure that there are things to be cleared or deleted or some maintenance process please tell me
[07:02] <mickster04> B4R74zy, dont spam ads
[07:02] <zcat[1]> sidd:  run 'top' and see if something is hogging CPU, and/or what the load is?
[07:02] <Reactor> bbB: chatzilla is better for tht
[07:03] <sidd> zcar: what is this top please tell me steap wise i migrated from windows
[07:03] <sshc> sidd: look somewhere in the menu (System I think)? for system usage analyzer, or if you like using a console, type "top"
[07:03] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[07:03] <zcat[1]> application > accessories > terminal, then type 'top' at the prompt in the window..
[07:03] <bbB> Reactor: Actually, please advise me how to use IRC.
[07:04] <sidd> sidd@sidd-desktop:~$ top
[07:04] <sidd> top - 12:33:56 up 15:03,  2 users,  load average: 0.28, 0.20, 0.16
[07:04] <sidd> Tasks: 142 total,   3 running, 139 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[07:04] <sidd> Cpu(s): 47.4%us,  6.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 43.7%id,  2.3%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[07:04] <sidd> Mem:    443456k total,   425124k used,    18332k free,     2908k buffers
[07:04] <sidd> Swap:  1301224k total,   516872k used,   784352k free,    40572k cached
[07:04] <sidd>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[07:04] <FloodBot1> sidd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <Reactor> bbB: ?wht do u mean
[07:04] <zcat[1]> but please do not paste the results in here ;)
[07:04] <richarda> Hey, how can I remove GPG full-disk encryption?  Turns out I dont want it.
[07:04] <micheal> The folder "Dexter3" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to create it in the destination. how do i grany premissions?
[07:05] <snuffy47> I do not understand most of the information I am reading this pcmcia linksys card should work out of the box on jaunty
[07:05] <zcat[1]> richarda:  backup files, reinstall, restore files is probably the easiest option
[07:05] <mickster04> michael sudo?
[07:05] <sidd> i gave you the results for top..please suggest somehing
[07:05] <djnvl> Michel use chmod --help
[07:05] <micheal> what about sudo?
[07:05] <richarda> zcat[1], wow, really?  The process is destructive?  Can I just set it to an empty or no passphrase?
[07:06] <bbB> Reactor: I am newbie on IRC.
[07:06] <zcat[1]> I love disk encryptopn.. andone who steals my laptop will be lucky if they can use it at all and certainly won't be getting any of my stuff off it...
[07:06] <mickster04> !sudo | micheal
[07:06] <djnvl> Sudo gives you admin power.
[07:06] <Reactor> bbB, u're now on tht
[07:06] <brando753> I always wondered if there was a way to permently delete past files to prevent them from being recovered. (i know windows had recuva that could prevent recovery) does ubuntu have anything?
[07:07] <zcat[1]> richarda:  hmmm, perhaps you can. I don't even know how to change the password ;)
[07:07] <bbB> Reactor: And my english is very basic.
[07:07] <micheal> otsudo: yes, i know about sudo. but how to i grant premission so i can cpaste files to that partition?
[07:07] <richarda> yeah, but this comp will be used on a TV, and the TV doesnt show the framebuffer, so you have to type the password blind
[07:07] <B4R74zy> plz go 2             http://sites.google.com/site/affiliateshope            &  click  on ads
[07:07] <bbB> Reactor: But i am interested in Linux.
[07:07] <zcat[1]> any ops around?
[07:07] <howie> u
[07:08] <howie> hhhh
[07:08] <Dessan> zcat[1], there always are
[07:08] <zcat[1]> !pastebin | sidd
[07:08] <Dessan> !calltheops B4R74zy
[07:08] <bbB> Reactor, Want to improve my skills.
[07:08] <micheal> mickster04: yes, i know about sudo. but how to i grant premission so i can cpaste files to that partition?
[07:08] <Reactor> bbB: ok ok what about do you want to know?
[07:08] <howie> hi
[07:08] <maco> Dessan: its "! ops | message for ops" (without the space)
[07:09] <sidd> zcat(1) : i am sending you my results for top please accept that file
[07:09] <sidd> and help me
[07:09] <maco> Dessan: er without the space between ! and ops. i just know some here have it on highlight so im not gonna say it
[07:09] <leafox> h
[07:09] <howie> ghj
[07:09] <zcat[1]> sidd:  pastebin it
[07:09] <linuxguy2009> micheal: gksudo nautilus will let you perform any file activities on any drive, folder, or file. Be careful.
[07:09] <GenericBox> I have an LG LW65 Express Laptop, with a C-Media High Definition Audio card, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 --- but I have no sound. I was told to download PulseAudio Volume Meter, and it "shows" sound playing, but still nothing is coming out of my laptop speakers!?
[07:09] <sidd> pastebin it  ... how??
[07:09] <snuffy47> If wireless card is pluged in on start up it freezes at load screen and if the lights come on while in jaunty it freezes putter
[07:09] <cbx> sidd: goto pastebin.com and post it there
[07:09] <maco> !pastebin | sidd
[07:09] <Dessan> maco, thanks, though he left in a hurry either way
[07:09] <snuffy47> http://paste.ubuntu.com/330029/
[07:10] <zcat[1]> !pm | sidd
[07:10] <sidd> ok
[07:10] <maco> Dessan: just for future reference
[07:10] <Dessan> maco, thanks mate
[07:10] <holmser> how do I enable images in evolution?
[07:10] <sin_cos_tan_pow> well  ive included math.h and stdio.h and called my trig functions but it says "undefined reference to `sin||cos||tan||pow'"
[07:10] <holmser> can't find the setting
[07:10] <sin_cos_tan_pow> when compiling
[07:11] <brando753> how can i securely wipe my deleted files so they cant be recovered?
[07:11] <holmser> did you compile it with the -lm option?
[07:11] <micheal> linuxguy2009: thx
[07:11] <sidd> ubottu> : when i am asking on channel flood bot is unnecessaraly banning me
[07:11] <bbB> Reactor, What should I know, please? I'm not annoying.
[07:11] <zcat[1]> brando753:  delete them, then create some huge null files from /dev/zero until the disk is full, then delete them again.
[07:11] <holmser> sin_cos_tan_pow, the compiler doesn't link the math library by default, need to use -lm
[07:12] <brando753> zcat[1]: that isnt very efficent nor secure for sensitive data
[07:12] <nomad77> brando753: try shred or wipe.
[07:12] <sidd> zcat(1) : here is the pastebin one http://pastebin.com/d61069b99
[07:12] <Reactor> bbB: hmm I don't know really - u are already on :P
[07:12] <GenericBox> I have an LG LW65 Express Laptop, with a C-Media High Definition Audio card, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 --- but I have no sound. I was told to download PulseAudio Volume Meter, and it "shows" sound playing, but still nothing is coming out of my laptop speakers!?
[07:12] <sidd> http://pastebin.com/d61069b99
[07:13] <brando753> nomad77: but im trying to prevent the recovery of alredy deleted files
[07:13] <snuffy47> If wireless card is pluged in on start up it freezes at load screen and if the lights come on while in jaunty it freezes putter
[07:13] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, which chipset?
[07:13] <sidd> http://pastebin.com/d61069b99
[07:13] <snuffy47> its version 3
[07:13] <snuffy47> not sure on chip set
[07:13] <holmser> how do you enable images in evolution?
[07:13] <sin_cos_tan_pow> oh thanks holmser
[07:13] <zcat[1]> brando753:  it's a lot more secure that 'shredding' files ... due to the way the filesystem works, files tend to get moved around so the safest option is to fill up ALL the empty space.. (an even better option is to tar the entire filesystem to a clean new drive and then zero-wipe the old one.
[07:14] <djnvl> !sound | GenericBox
[07:14] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, is the device integrated or you plug it in?
[07:14] <sidd> zcat(1) : http://pastebin.com/d61069b99
[07:14] <greezmunkey> brando753, someone in here mentioned a project where the filesystem is like, virtual...plausible deniability I think, a very cool idea to do what you want...
[07:14] <holmser> did it work sin?
[07:14] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, plug it in pcmcia
[07:14] <om26er_> my psp memory card don't mount in ubuntu
[07:14] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, do lspci and lspci -n and paste it into pastebin
[07:14] <holmser> I had problems with memory sticks on my laptop
[07:15] <djnvl> Om26e_ give details
[07:15] <sidd> help me my ubuntu is slow as hell.. http://pastebin.com/d61069b99
[07:15] <holmser> all the other storage cards I had worked, but not memory sticks
[07:15] <brando753> here i have a laptop which i want to be able to delete files, then weekly preform some <operation
[07:15] <bbB> Reactor: What the kind of instant messenger that Linux user use?
[07:15] <brando753> in which lowers the chance of files being recovered
[07:15] <djnvl> !at
[07:15] <brando753> greatly lowers
[07:16] <zcat[1]> sidd: nothing too unusual in top that I can see...
[07:16] <Reactor> bbB: pidgin
[07:16] <greezmunkey> brando753, here is something on it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448029
[07:16] <Rasalom> i've always been able to download torrents fine in windows, now in ubuntu when using ktorrent it always stalls out.  anyone know what's going on?
[07:16] <sidd> zcat(1) then what makes it slow
[07:16] <sidd> it was faster
[07:16] <om26er_> djnvl: http://imagebin.org/73282
[07:16] <om26er_> djnvl: can't even mount from terminal
[07:17] <om26er_> djnvl: and if i format it from ubuntu then psp won't read anything of it
[07:17] <ron-l-j> snuffy did you get lspci to output ?
[07:18] <zcat[1]> om26er:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb and pastebin the result?
[07:18] <brando753> im not trying to encrypt data im trying to destroy sensitive data without a worry of it being recoverable
[07:18] <bbB> Reactor: My fault, I meant what serv?(such as MSN, Google Talk, Yahoo)
[07:19] <zcat[1]> brando753:  what I said are the best and second-best options afaik..
[07:19] <ardchoille> Thank you elky
[07:19] <racecar56> what did elky do?
[07:19] <Reactor> bbB: hmm - idk I use msn, jabber and icq
[07:19] <brando753> zcat[1]: how would you create the null file then
[07:19] <elky> ardchoille, it'd help if you called ops. it would pop up an alert that i'd actually notice.
[07:19] <psycho_oreos> ban some spammer that is going around the node
[07:19] <zcat[1]> and pretty similar to how many 'zero-wipe' programs work in 'doze..
[07:20] <racecar56> ok.
[07:20] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330035/
[07:20] <ardchoille> elky: Will do that next time
[07:20] <racecar56> i like ubuntu 9.10 :)
[07:20] <zcat[1]> brando753:  cat /dev/zero > useupspace
[07:20] <bbB> Reactor: What's idk means?
[07:20] <holmser> Is there a way to import all of my gmail contacts into evolution?
[07:20] <brando753> where would the file appear?
[07:21] <psycho_oreos> I don't know
[07:21] <racecar56> bbB: idk means i don't know
[07:21] <nomad77> brando753: man dd. or use dban or such
[07:21] <Reactor> bbB: idk = I don't know
[07:21] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, your wireless card isn't plugged in, its not listed or is it one of those legacy cards?
[07:21] <zcat[1]> brando753:  the file will be called 'useupspace' ; when you run out of hard drive cat will crash and you just 'rm useupspace' to get rid of the huge empty file
[07:21] <snuffy47> its plugged in but lights are off
[07:22] <bbB> Reactor: You are friendly :)
[07:22] <racecar56> i modprobed eth1394 but i didn't get an eth1 interface, why?
[07:22] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, If the lights come on it freezes putter
[07:22] <zcat[1]> nomad77:  can dban do just free space? I thought it did entire drives...
[07:22] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, on the bottom of the card, does it have any indication that its a 5V device?
[07:22] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, It is frustrating the hack out of me
[07:22] <Reactor> bbB: thx ;)
[07:22] <psycho_oreos> racecar56, I'd check dmesg for information
[07:22] <bbB> Reactor: Are you interested in Programming?
[07:23] <brando753> zcat[1]: its a very slow process :(
[07:23] <nomad77> zcat[1]: not sure its basically dd and /dev/urandom
[07:23] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, I can understand but there could be many issues leading up to it including the pcmcia controller being a bit of an issue
[07:23] <Reactor> bbB: of course
[07:23] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, it has no mention
[07:23] <charles_> salut le monde
[07:23] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, it may be pcmcia as my netgear card does the same but I read that it was not supported
[07:23] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47,  does it have FCC ID: XXXXXXXXXX printed anywhere on the device?
[07:24] <greezmunkey> brando753, here's another look: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=version-history
[07:24] <racecar56> for some odd reason i think my BIOS settings are the problem, let me check them.
[07:24] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, PKW-WPC11-V31
[07:24] <zcat[1]> brando753:  yes, it is...
[07:24] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, yeah but that's a very broad definition, netgear isn't a wireless chipset manufacturer, but moreso a repackaging company
[07:24] <hadees> i'm trying to install ubuntu from a flash drive but i can't find usb-creator.exe
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, ahh yes its a legacy chipset, it won't detect in lspci
[07:25] <bbB> Reactor: What language?
[07:25] <hadees> has the install instructions for ubuntu from a flash drive changed?
[07:25] <Berzerker> hadees, if it's an iso, use unetbootin, if it's a .img use win32diskimagewriter.
[07:25] <charles_> fr
[07:25] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, ???????
[07:25] <zcat[1]> brando753:  which is why I usually zero-wipe another drive and clone the filesystem over using tar
[07:25] <Berzerker> !fr | charles_
[07:25] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[07:25] <brando753> zcat[1]: whats zero wipe?
[07:26] <Reactor> bbB: Pascal, now trying to learn C++
[07:26] <GamerKnight> ron-l-j: i agree
[07:26] <hadees> Berzerker, i tried unetbootin and got Missing Modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALTERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[07:26] <ron-l-j> ZERO wipe changes thew magnetic poles on your hard drive to )
[07:26] <zcat[1]> brando753:  erase the entire disk to factory-clean using dban or dumping /dev/zero to /dev/sda
[07:26] <ron-l-j> )
[07:26] <ron-l-j> 0
[07:26] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, ok, the chipset is one of those intersil prism type chipsets (non prism 54) the driver you will most likely need to use is hostap_cs but this may conflict with another driver named hermes_cs
[07:26] <Berzerker> hadees, might be a problem with either a) the image b) the flash drive, I've used it fine.
[07:26] <Berzerker> hadees, with 9.10?
[07:27] <Finnish> My gnome got ALL messed up with latest updates (-15 kernel). How do I completely wipe out gnome-setting etc, so that it isn't giving me troubles anymore? I can boot to desktop, but that's it, that's all I can do, no panels/folders, no mouse clicking etc
[07:27] <ron-l-j> there are a ton of magnets on your hard drive that all remember withch way the write head wrote them
[07:27] <brando753> zcat[1]: is that practicall for a computer in constant use?
[07:27] <hadees> Berzerker, yeah
[07:27] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[07:27] <ron-l-j> and zero would be all north
[07:27] <GenericBox> That website didn't help at all for my Sound problem. Can someone please help me. It is frustrating as hell.
[07:27] <brando753> zcat[1]: or more for the paranoid user?
[07:27] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, its an annoying issue which I have found ever since hermes_cs was updated to work with the same set of chipsets
[07:27] <luckymurali> I have a file
[07:27] <Berzerker> hadees, I've used unetbootin fine
[07:27] <Berzerker> hadees, so, no idea
[07:28] <ron-l-j> Generic box what is the deal ?
[07:28] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, what does that mean
[07:28] <luckymurali> it consists of a line - hi "NAME" age
[07:28] <ron-l-j> meand your chip set is not supported by ubuntu
[07:28] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, when was the last time the device was properly working? lol
[07:28] <zcat[1]> brando753:  it takes a little while.. if you do things right you can do the wipe and clone while the computer is still in use, and keep downtime to a minimum just swapping the drives and reparing grub.
[07:28] <ron-l-j> or the linux kernel
[07:28] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, with windows xp on same machine
[07:28] <alexb92> hey guys, just wondering, do you guys know how to stop all running instances of openoffice??
[07:28] <luckymurali> i want to make the line like - hi "name" age
[07:28] <psycho_oreos> err its supported, but its a persistent issue
[07:29] <zcat[1]> alexb92:  killall -9 soffice I think
[07:29] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, that's irrelevant, when was the last version or distro that worked with it?
[07:29] <GenericBox> I don't know - I'm a newbie. I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have no sound coming from my laptop speakers.
[07:29] <brando753> but dont u loose all your files
[07:29] <luckymurali> ie to convert from uppercase to lowercase of all the strings which is enclosed by double quotes
[07:29] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, Jaunty is the only distro I have had on this machine
[07:29] <brando753> zcat[1]: but dont u loose all your files
[07:29] <ron-l-j> Python input("name,age)
[07:29] <luckymurali> please suggest me how can i use 'sed command'
[07:30] <Finnish> How do I reset gnome completely?
[07:30] <les> you can use sed in many ways. what are you trying to do with sed.
[07:30] <alexb92> zcat1 : nope no process found
[07:30] <ron-l-j> raw_input('name,age')
[07:30] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, ahh well yeah that would probably explain it. the only work around I can think of is to probably move hermes_cs and hermes related drivers elsewhere and probably do depmod -ae whilst the card is not plugged in (you may need pcmcia_cs package and do pccardctl eject)
[07:30] <GenericBox> ron-I-j: I have tried everything anyone has suggested, and searched all Ubuntu forums etc. I don't know where to start/what to do.
[07:30] <bbB> Reactor:  Ubutu is very user friendly, and what should I fix it for learning.
[07:31] <brando753> zcat[1]: how do i do the null option if my root and my home our seperate partitions?
[07:31] <ron-l-j> If you need to restart X Windows in Ubuntu press the Ctrl + Alt + Backspace keys all at once
[07:31] <zcat[1]> brando753:  two drives; you put in a second drive (which means the computer os down for a minute or two) then when it's up again you can zero-wipe the space drive, make a filesystem on it, tar the files over.. takes a couple of hours but the computer can still be used.. then once that's done shutdown, swap the drives around, boot a live CD and reinstall GRUB, bring the computer up, and zero-wipe the old drive..
[07:31] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, doesnt seem worth it.  Will I have problems with and wireless pcmcia cards?
[07:31] <Reactor> bbB: wht do u mean?
[07:31] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, doesnt seem worth it.  Will I have problems with all wireless pcmcia cards?
[07:32] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, it depends on which other chipsets other wireless cards contain
[07:32] <ron-l-j> ok are your speakers plugged in ?
[07:32] <ron-l-j> is your volume up ?
[07:32] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, rgr stay away from legacy
[07:32] <enzotib> ron-l-j: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doen't work anymore on ubuntu, starting from Jaunty
[07:32] <brando753> zcat[1]: wont tarring it over also bring the deleted files back to?
[07:32] <ron-l-j> ok
[07:32] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, not quite :) but yeah for beginners I suppose so
[07:32] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, too bad I have 2 good cards here and no worky :(
[07:33] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, whats the second one?
[07:33] <snuffy47> Netgear
[07:33] <zcat[1]> no, tar only copies existing files, it won't copy any of the free space or 'slack' at the end of files
[07:33] <brando753> zcat[1]: and last is zero-wipe a program or what is it
[07:33] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, Netgear Model MA401
[07:33] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, that same card that you posted the FCC ID, it can work with older versions of linux kernel (pre-mac80211)
[07:33] <ron-l-j> sudo pkill x
[07:33] <systm> Anyone know how to pipe the audio from Line in to audio line out?
[07:33] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, both are those?
[07:33] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, LOL but not new ones that is messed up
[07:34] <yigal> can anyone help me getting my touchscreen to work? ty
[07:34] <ron-l-j> SYSTM use jack
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, or the second one being linksys
[07:34] <zcat[1]> brando753:  to sero wipe, become root and cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdx (where x is whatever drive you want to wipe)
[07:34] <Andycas> I changed my main menu icon in /usr/share/icons/themename/24/start-here.svg. Then i killed gnome-panels to see the change. It worked but after restarting my icon has disappeared? How do i fix it. Choosing different theme (or icon pack) didn't help either
[07:34] <racecar56> apparently, it WAS the BIOS settings after all
[07:34] <systm> ron-l-j, i use pulse audio
[07:34] <ron-l-j> yes
[07:34] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, 1 Netgear, the one I gave FCC is linksys
[07:34] <racecar56> but there's a new problem, I can't ping the other computer through firewire..
[07:34] <racecar56> they are both using linux, i configured their IPs and stuff right.
[07:35] <bbB> Reactor: For general using, Ubuntu is very simply to use, but I want to know more, and can you suggest me?
[07:35] <ron-l-j> ok can you right click on your speaker ikon and adjust your input and out put
[07:35] <systm> ron-l-j, just the package jack?
[07:35] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, well yeah its somewhat a complicated issue, but simply put its like you owning a car, but you want to relegate a driver.. there's two drivers, and neither of them will give up taking the driving position with one driver driving faster than the other and causing the car to become problematic
[07:35] <systm> ron-l-j, yes
[07:35] <alexb92> ok , is there a way to stop a package from installing? openoffice.org -filter -binfilter is the culprit that is driving me insane
[07:35] <ron-l-j> Jack package will help you with input and out put
[07:35] <racecar56> computer 1's IP is 10.0.0.1 and the 2nd computer's IP is 10.0.0.2 and the 2nd computer's gateway is 10.0.0.1, they both have same netmask and broadcast addresses.
[07:35] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, ahh ok, that netgear one I believe would probably have the same chipset meaning identical chipset brand and probably won't work.. whats the fcc id on it for curious sake?
[07:35] <GenericBox> Far out Ubuntu is the most annoying thing ever.
[07:36] <racecar56> i don't want to use ethernet to transfer because it is only 10mbps :( i don't know why
[07:36] <yigal> is making a touchscreen work not fun?
[07:36] <ron-l-j> # qjackctl is the most popular graphical control application.
[07:36] <gopher3x> hey folks im running 9.10 with luks wde WITH encrypted home directories..... any chance the nsa can crack that?
[07:36] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, It does the same thing PD5LMWP200
[07:36] <systm> ron-l-j, do you mean jackd then?
[07:37] <iceroot> gopher3x: everything is crackable, just a matter of time
[07:37] <ron-l-j> jackd is the gtk package yes
[07:37] <yigal> iceroot: or the computing power
[07:37] <skinnYPuP> racecar56 I haven't used firewire but you're ip scheme seems ok, is the firewire hardware bound to that ip or is the eth0  ?
[07:37] <GenericBox> Where the flip can I go to fix my sound issue?
[07:37] <ryan_mccain> ron, i  just tried running the flashnul and got access denied.. ?
[07:37] <iceroot> yigal: both
[07:37] <yigal> iceroot: trudat
[07:37] <Reactor> bbB: I can advise you to learn linux console cmds coz console is useful thingy
[07:37] <iceroot> GenericBox: here, with usefull details
[07:38] <switchgirl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/330034/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.6pre) Gecko/20091125 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Shiretoko/3.5.6pre not able to play iplayer in ful screen - crashes
[07:38] <ryan_mccain> C:\Users\ryan\Downloads\flashnul-1rc1\flashnul-1rc1>flashnul 1 -L c:\Users\ryan\
[07:38] <ryan_mccain> Downloads\ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img
[07:38] <iceroot> ryan_mccain: ##windows
[07:38] <yigal> ryan_mccain: no window directory please
[07:38] <GenericBox> iceroot: But I don't know what details people need, or even where to start. I'm literally new to the whole Linux concept as of a few hours ago.
[07:38] <zcat[1]> gopher3x:  the average laptop-stealing crim won't. that's all that matters to me.
[07:38] <maco> GenericBox: its possible its a bug that needs to be filed. its also possible its a bug fixed in 9.10
[07:38] <alexb92> ??
[07:38] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, yeah most likely same chipset, trying to load up the fcc page but I'm also downloading so its lagging.. but those cards I believe are 802.11B only right?
[07:38] <switchgirl> !windows
[07:38] <iceroot> GenericBox: hardware, errors,, what have you done
[07:38] <ron-l-j> ryan you doing well bro ?
[07:39] <maco> GenericBox: or it could be muted somewhere
[07:39] <snuffy47> yup
[07:39] <ryan_mccain> ron, well, i found a 9.04 img and try to run the flashnul command and got access denied
[07:39] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, yup thanks for the help just frustrating that they will not work
[07:39] <alexb92> and can someone help me out installing the update for hplip?
[07:39] <GenericBox> iceroot: Installed Ubuntu, no sound. C-Media High Definition Audio sound card. Downloaded PulseAudio Volume Meter on recommendation.
[07:39] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, well it can be made to work with a bit of effort honestly :)
[07:39] <maco> GenericBox:  its messy in here. too many people. can we go to #ubuntu-audio-help ?
[07:40] <bbB> Reactor: I recognize that, file system is what I want to know.
[07:40] <yigal> I just want my t91mt's touch screen to work how much work will I have to invest
[07:40] <GenericBox> Maco: Okay thanks
[07:40] <yigal> incredible
[07:40] <systm> ron-l-j, do you mean jackd then?
[07:40] <systm> sorry replace
[07:40] <ron-l-j> systm YEs jackd
[07:40] <yigal> it's like trying to get a winmodem working on linux 4 years ago
[07:40] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, doesnt sound worth it. and its late I thought I was just missing something easy.  Thanks maybes another time
[07:40] <ryan_mccain> ron, can I PM you so i dont flood this channel w/ my output?
[07:41] <yigal> ryan_mccain: or use a paste
[07:41] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, I am not certain but upon plugging in the device you should normally get ethX + wlanX, one is for hermes chipset support and the other is for hostap support
[07:41] <ryan_mccain> k
[07:41] <switchgirl> ryan_mccain, no http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <yigal> ryan_mccain: works nicely
[07:41] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, I wrote the 2 drivers down and will do some reading
[07:41] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, laters
[07:41] <ron-l-j> jackEQ a tool for routing and manipulating audio from/to multiple input/output sources.
[07:42] <ron-l-j> jackEQ a tool for routing and manipulating audio from/to multiple input/output sources.
[07:42] <Reactor> bbB: wanna know more about filesystem?
[07:42] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, if you don't get either of those, it maybe unsupported cardbus controller, the brand from your lspci output previously reminded me of the issues people have had on some linux forums
[07:42] <ron-l-j> jackEQ a tool for routing and manipulating audio from/to multiple input/output sources.
[07:42] <yigal> but all I want is my touch pad to work
[07:42] <P0rnflakes> hi
[07:42] <bbB> Reactor: Yes, I do.
[07:42] <yigal> :(
[07:42] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, wrote that down too :)
[07:42] <Reactor> bbB: erm
[07:42] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, normally it may not autoload the driver
[07:43] <bbB> Reactor: and system programming.
[07:43] <ryan_mccain> ron, see here --> http://pastebin.com/m1c4d99ef
[07:43] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, if it doesn't autoload, the correct driver for your chipset is hostap_cs but upon loading that you will load orinoco_cs which can cause the issue
[07:43] <ooaaaoo> hi guys i amtrying to install GLFW(http://glfw.sourceforge.net/) and I cant find it on synaptic, is there an additional rep. that I should add?
[07:43] <yigal> isn't it funny that the default im messenger on ubuntu empathy fails at irc :P
[07:43] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, and you can't blacklist it
[07:43] <ct529> hi everybody
[07:43] <ryan_mccain> or whoever else wants to assist getting ubuntu on my netbook, :)
[07:43] <ct529> I have two problems here .....
[07:43] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, orinoco
[07:44] <zcat[1]> hehe, helped someone get dialup working today.. problem #1, they had managed to plug the modem into the printer port (with a little help from a gender adapter..)
[07:44] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, yes orinoco_cs or hemes_cs but your chipset isn't that
[07:44] <yigal> zcat[1]: lol
[07:44] <yy> shall this support lenovo T60 ? http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Notebook-WD6400BEVT-Scorpio/dp/B002P3KO8I
[07:44] <bbB> Reactor: should I have some of handbook?
[07:44] <P0rnflakes> can anyone tell me if that feature u got in xubuntu(sry, dunno the name) does work in ubuntu too?
[07:44] <P0rnflakes> you click on a button (beneath minimize, maximize and close)and then just the top of the window with those buttons remains..
[07:44] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, they supposedly share the same designs but orinoco (hermes) timing is faster than intersil prism chipsets
[07:45] <Reactor> bbB: I'm a linux newbie too - programmed under windblows and now trying to do it under linux
[07:45] <ct529> I am watching a lesson on line that I need to download as well .... I am watching it using vlc, but it is available as ITune download as well .... how do you download Itune stuff in ubuntu? the link is http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/yale.edu.2413658053
[07:45] <snuffy47> psycho_oreos, lol no worries atleast I have some things to read up on
[07:45] <zcat[1]> problem #2, dialup in network manager is fscked.. ended up using gnome-ppp which means that firefox and evolution alreays start in offline mode now.. anyone got suggestions on how to fix?
[07:45] <yigal> zcat[1]: disable nm
[07:45] <psycho_oreos> snuffy47, oh and incase you're not aware of your cardbus controller, its O2 Micro
[07:45] <yigal> zcat[1]: you're not using it?
[07:45] <Reactor> bbB: handbook = ?
[07:45] <alabd> Good day everyone , how use gcj fore firefox JRE ?
[07:46] <zcat[1]> yigal:  hmm, that might be an option...
[07:46] <yigal> zcat[1]: or uninstall all together and install wicd
[07:46] <yigal> zcat[1]: which for most purposs is > nm
[07:46] <yigal> s/purposs/purposes
[07:47] <zcat[1]> I think just kill NM, and any time they need to use broadband they could just 'sudo dhclient' to kick it into life..
[07:47] <yigal> zcat[1]: wicd is amazingly good at these connections
[07:47] <yigal> zcat[1]: and is far less intrusive
[07:47] <zcat[1]> yeah, I might play with wicd too..
[07:48] <yigal> zcat[1]: you should look at it for a couple minutes, it's really quite robust
[07:48] <yigal> zcat[1]: nice console interface and a fine gui
[07:48] <zcat[1]> dialup USED to be pretty good n gnome... why did they have to go and screw that up?
[07:48] <ryan_mccain> im using win32 disk imager.. seems to be extracting the img file ok..
[07:48] <yigal> zcat[1]: it's usually what happens :)
[07:48] <systm> ron-l-j, im not sure how to set it up
[07:49] <yigal> ryan_mccain: should be fine
[07:49] <ryan_mccain> we'll see.. the ISO for 9.10 extracted fine but it just wouldnt install
[07:49] <ron-l-j> http://jackaudio.org/applications
[07:49] <bbB> Reactor: handbook = a book that you can port with you everywhere.
[07:49] <yigal> ryan_mccain: did you burn it at a high speed?
[07:50] <alabd> how to use cvs rep ?
[07:50] <mr_steve> does anyone happen to know how to remove an installed gconf schema?
[07:50] <alabd> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=gcjwebplugin
[07:50] <ryan_mccain> yigal: i took the defaults
[07:50] <bbB> Reactor: sorry, my English is very basic.
[07:50] <Reactor> bbB: hmn
[07:50] <skinnYPuP> has anyone had success using jack as a network sound server ?
[07:50] <racecar56> how do i do a ethernet transfer? computer 1 and 2 are both running linux.
[07:50] <yigal> mr_steve: rm -r ~/.gconf*
[07:50] <yigal> mr_steve: :)
[07:50] <ryan_mccain> using unetbootin
[07:50] <racecar56> i'm trying to do it but i can't seem to get it working
[07:50] <Reactor> bbB: hmm* np
[07:50] <ron-l-j> read the docs for your sys It would take me hours to type what you can read in 10 minutes
[07:50] <racecar56> ...and nor can I get firewire to work either
[07:51] <ron-l-j> systm http://jackaudio.org/applications
[07:51] <mr_steve> yigal, that's one way to go for sure, but it's actually the system-wide schema for a particular application that I need to get rid of
[07:51] <yigal> I have the best laptop eee t91mt but can't get the touchscreen to work on, any ideas
[07:51] <skinnYPuP> racecar, an ethernet transfer ? You want to move some files ?
[07:52] <yigal> mr_steve: edit gconf as root?, sorry not a GNOME master
[07:52] <bbB> Reactor: np stands for?
[07:52] <skinnYPuP> no problem
[07:52] <racecar56> bbB no problem
[07:52] <goose> how do I install a program from svn?
[07:52] <Reactor> bbB: np = no problems
[07:52] <asus> hi
[07:52] <racecar56> hi
[07:53] <ryan_mccain> going to try and install now. thx for the help.
[07:53] <mr_steve> yigal, thanks anyway, gconf is definitely kind of opaque and undocumented when it comes to schemas. I might go bug #gnome, just thought I'd ask here first
[07:53] <yigal> mr_steve: I am really unhappy with the underbelly of GNOME, best of luck
[07:53] <skinnYPuP> racecar56 join #racecar56-help   I'll tell you how to set up ssh to move some files
[07:53] <alabd> Good day everyone , http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=gcjwebplugin     how to install it
[07:53] <Raiku> http://www.tinychat.com/AwesomePeopleFTWhttp://www.tinychat.com/AwesomePeopleFTW
[07:54] <bbB> Reactor : Programming on Windows is what? how to do?
[07:55] <yigal> bbB: not fun
[07:55] <Reactor> bbB: Awww do u know tht epic fail OS?
[07:55] <plasmaflux> I'm having a brain-frying problem with my system. I've got a book as a .pdf. It's got regular text as times new roman or something, then SQL statements and code snippets in another font. I can view everything fine in multiple .pdf readers, but when I copy and paste the SQL and code snippets either into a browser or gedit, the characters turn into squares with 6-digit numbers inside. Any ideas?
[07:56] <ct529> what tool is better to download videocasts?
[07:56] <bbB> Reactor: How ?
[07:57] <zcat[1]> plasmaflux:  try pasting to OpenOffice writer?
[07:57] <plasmaflux> zcat[1]: white squares
[07:57] <yigal> mr_steve: I am really unhappy with the underbelly of GNOME, best of luck?
[07:57] <yigal> oops, my bad
[07:57] <plasmaflux> white squares also in firefox, squares with 6-digit codes in gedit --- character count is correct, but it's all gobbledygook
[07:57] <yigal> repeating myself
[07:58] <Reactor> bbB: ?
[07:58] <yigal> plasmaflux: what about pdftotext, probably not good but worth a try?
[07:58] <osirisx11> [karmic nvidia] is there a way to rebuild my xorg.conf from scratch? every time i choose a proprietary driver from Hardware Drivers and reboot, I end up having to restore from a backup xorg.conf
[07:58] <yigal> pdftohtml
[07:58] <plasmaflux> yigal: don't think that's a viable solution with a 400 page book i'm trying to learn from - maybe as a last resort
[07:58] <yigal> plasmaflux: I understand
[07:59] <jmary> pdftohtml needs to use some options to get best results : man pdftohtml
[07:59] <Billiard> osirisx11: delete your xorg.conf then sudo nvidia-xconfig, to make one from scratch
[07:59] <luckymurali> how can i use tr command to change the case enclosed by double quotes
[07:59] <neverender13009> im trying to get my ipod classic to sync with songbird on ubuntu 9.10 can anyone help me?
[07:59] <luckymurali> please tell me
[08:00] <bbB> Reactor: I dont understand this clause "epic fail OS", What does it mean?
[08:00] <zcat[1]> plasmaflux:  sounds like the code snippets are in some embedded font using weird character values, it may even be intentional to stop casual cut-and-paste
[08:00] <ardchoille> bbB: It means the conversation needs to move to another channel
[08:00] <zcat[1]> If you want to talk about epic fail OS, try #windows ;)
[08:01] <jmary> luckymurali, i think you should use sed : http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
[08:01] <Reactor> bbB: right :P
[08:01] <Billiard> luckymurali: you just want to change something to upper or lowercase ?
[08:01] <cih997> hi, ubuntu 9.10, resume from suspend prints few lines on black background and I can't do anything :/ Everytime. My hardware is notebook with intel graphics card. Where should I looking for
[08:02] <cih997> help *
[08:02] <luckymurali> Billiard, Hi
[08:02] <bbB> Reactor: Sorry, I don't know.
[08:02] <cih997> 9.04 worked fine
[08:02] <jmary> luckymurali, sed is sending the result in stdout, so you must redirect it in a file like : you sed command > myresult.txt
[08:02] <osirisx11> Billiard: thank you. should i delete it and rebuild while in a full x session or what context?
[08:02] <Billiard> osirisx11: doesnt matter
[08:03] <luckymurali> i want to change something to upper or lowercase enclosed by ""
[08:03] <alabd> what are *.sig here http://mirrors.aixtools.net/sv/gcjwebplugin/ for ?
[08:03] <Cork[home]> anyone know how to make ubuntu display the desktop on a remove xserver on boot?
[08:03] <yigal> work it harder, do it faster makes us stronger, more than ever, our work is never over
[08:03] <osirisx11> Billiard: thank you. should i select the nvidia driver first in hardware drivers? hardware drivers app currently shows no nvidia driver selected. and if i do that, then when i reboot, i am sure it will fail to boot.
[08:03] <zcat[1]> Cork[home]:  ummm.. ltsp perhaps?
[08:03] <plasmaflux> zcat[1]: I considered that as a possibility, but was able to copy-and-paste code from the same book on my work machine running Windows XP a few days ago.
[08:04] <Billiard> osirisx11: not super familiar with the hardware drivers thing, i would thing nvidia-xconfig will take care of it
[08:04] <Reactor> bbB: sorry, man, I have to go for some time
[08:04] <zcat[1]> plasmaflux:  hmm, I don't know enough about pdf files to say really ;)
[08:04] <osirisx11> Billiard: thank you. i will report back. wish me luck.
[08:04] <yigal> plasmaflux: what about acroread linux version, copy paste?
[08:04] <bbB> Reactor: nice to talk with you.
[08:04] <yigal> plasmaflux: same problem?
[08:05] <Billiard> luckymurali: so you dont want to change all text to upper case, you want to find the text that is in "s ?
[08:05] <bluntman225> does anyone know if the 9.10 release has drivers install for atheros wifi pci already
[08:05] <luckymurali> yes
[08:05] <jmary> luckymurali, echo slap was here | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'
[08:05] <greezmunkey> As with most other backup programs
[08:05] <yigal> jmary: nice
[08:05] <plasmaflux> yigal - I installed acroread linux after not even being able to select the text in Document Viewer or pdfedit -- same problem
[08:06] <greezmunkey> pasted from adobereader 9.2, seems ok
[08:06] <baz> i tried installing the newest WoW using wine on 9.04 but it failed - it's hard to know if it is compatible or not reading the web - anyone have any experience? (i've never installed any other WoW's before)
[08:06] <zcat[1]> plasmaflux:  copy the whole thing to a .doc in windows perhaps?
[08:06] <Reactor> bbB: thx
[08:06] <luckymurali> jmary, It converts all lower case to uppercase
[08:06] <plasmaflux> it's sort of a bummer. i was hoping to tear through some heavy cakephp exercises tonight...instead i've spent the last 3 hours troubleshooting my linux install
[08:06] <yigal> luckymurali: yep, that's what it should do
[08:06] <jmary> luckymurali, definitely.
[08:06] <plasmaflux> greezmunkey: as i said, most of the text copies fine, just not the example code snippets and SQL statements.
[08:07] <luckymurali> but i wnat to convert the string enclosed by ""
[08:07] <yigal> plasmaflux: so it's the encoding of these snippits
[08:07] <greezmunkey> plasmaflux, it has to be our file. I've tried several sections of one here without a failure... :(
[08:07] <greezmunkey> our=your
[08:07] <plasmaflux> yigal - seems to be. i installed the microsoft fonts thinking that might be it. it may be the fact Tahoma is missing?
[08:08] <Cork[home]> zcat[1]: that looks a bit overcomplicated, a just want to project the complete xwin to a xserver on another machine; i thought linux could to that nativly?
[08:08] <Cork[home]> *i just
[08:08] <yang_> is there an easy solution for the no sound in flash thing?
[08:08] <yigal> plasmaflux: you should try pdftotext -f first_page -l last_page, see what it does
[08:08] <plasmaflux> greezmunkey - it seems to be something with the encoding in this file for sure...but it's the exact same file i was copying and pasting from on a windows box at work the other day
[08:08] <zcat[1]> Cork[home]:  hmm, sorta...
[08:08] <spO> i have a "rma" program, real media analysis ,  whereas it fixes real media files.... How can i feed it a list of the files in a directory beacuse usually it works only one file at a time
[08:08] <yigal> yang_: it depends
[08:08] <yang_> yigal: on?
[08:09] <yang_> yigal: alsa looks like its working. flash sound work before
[08:09] <yigal> yang_: what platform, version of Ub. etc.
[08:09] <rance94> i need help on opening a .png file in pygame can somebody help plz??
[08:09] <plasmaflux> yigal - yeah, for troubleshooting i'll give pdftotext a try. if need be, i'll read most of the book as .pdf, then dig through the text file when i need to copy/paste code
[08:09] <yang_> yigal: x86 , Ubuntu 9.10
[08:09] <plasmaflux> or -- heaven forbid --- i'll type it
[08:09] <plasmaflux> :)
[08:09] <yigal> yang_: well if you're usinga modern Ub. it's pulse audio you need to be concerned with
[08:10] <yang_> yigal: i hate that i removed it because it wasn't working
[08:10] <yigal> yang_: not alsa, strangely enough
[08:10] <yigal> yang_: nice
[08:10] <yang_> yigal: flash contiued to work after i removed it lol .
[08:10] <luckymurali> Billiard,any ideas???
[08:10] <yang_> yigal: reinstall ?
[08:10] <luckymurali> :)
[08:10] <Billiard> luckymurali: i cant think of any easy way to do it, other that saving some variables and stuff
[08:11] <yigal> yang_: sure, but also depmod -a, sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp, why not
[08:11] <spO> how do i feed "rma" a program  , how do i feed it a list of files?
[08:11] <greezmunkey> plasmaflux, check this thread out! http://forums.adobe.com/message/1187442
[08:11] <yang_> what is /dev/dsp?
[08:11] <luckymurali> Billiard , ok
[08:11] <greezmunkey> pretty funny, related to cut and paste protection
[08:11] <yigal> yang_: sound output
[08:11] <yang_> aah
[08:11] <yang_> to ensure not a permissoin issue
[08:11] <yigal> yang_: is other sound working?
[08:11] <yang_> depmod -a checks all dependancys ?
[08:12] <yang_> yigal: yes all other sound works
[08:12] <jmary> Guys, in general to reinstall is not the right way to solve the problem. Can do an apt-get --purge to remove config files related to a service and start over with a base config but concerning gnome component everything is in the home directory.
[08:12] <yigal> yang_: exactly, module dependencies
[08:12] <iceroot> yang_: man depmod
[08:12] <jmary> So the reinstall will usually won't solve anything.
[08:12] <yigal> yang_: you also might want to clear out /tmp, for flash stuff, and clear firefox's memory
[08:12] <rance94> i need help on opening a .png file in pygame can somebody help plz??
[08:12] <yang_> iceroot: man man
[08:12] <yigal> yang_: I assume you are having problems on ff
[08:12] <yigal> yang_: nice
[08:12] <iceroot> yang_: yes, use it :)
[08:13] <greezmunkey> plasmaflux, can you print a page or two of your document to file, and then cut and paste from that?
[08:13] <iceroot> rance94: sounds like #python
[08:13] <yang_> yigal: ff 2 , but i use konqueror mostly
[08:13] <alabd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/330056/ how should be installed
[08:13] <yigal> yang_: ah, ya, good old konqueror is a good piece of software
[08:13] <bluntman225> i installed a package for 9.10 but I am actually running 9.04. How do I remove it using dpkg
[08:14] <osirisx11> Billiard: i had to disable GLX in xorg.conf to boot, Hardware Drivers now says 185 is active, Visual Effects cannot be activated
[08:14] <yigal> bluntman225: what is it?
[08:14] <yigal> dpkg -r package
[08:14] <yang_> yigal: i wish webkit based? or improve khtml but execlent features
[08:14] <yigal> in general
[08:14] <iceroot> bluntman225: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[08:14] <systm> how would i listen to a line in with an audio client
[08:14] <yigal> bluntman225: go with iceroot's advice
[08:14] <osirisx11> Billiard: NVIDIA X Server Settings program says my version I am using is 185.18.36
[08:15] <Billiard> osirisx11: idk why you had to disable GLX
[08:15] <alabd> how to use cvs at all ?
[08:15] <yigal> alabd: sorry you have to, at all
[08:15] <osirisx11> Billiard: x crashes when it was enabled, refused to start x
[08:15] <iceroot> alabd: man cvs, also see #cvs
[08:15] <Boohbah> yigal: chromium's webkit is much improved from konqueror; though they are submitting patches upstream
[08:15] <yang_> yigal: must have been permissions lol
[08:16] <yigal> yang_: sweet, good to hear
[08:16] <yang_> yigal: iceroot: thanks guys
[08:16] <yang_> yigal: wonder why permissions issue??
[08:16] <yigal> Boohbah: it's just the idea of an all purpose app. kind of nice
[08:16] <yigal> yang_: that's odd, lol
[08:17] <spO> rma -fz << cat thelist   does not work... how do i do it so i can send rma a list?
[08:17] <yang_> hmm would syslog have access denied to /dev/dsp and why?
[08:17] <spO> rma is real media analysizer
[08:17] <alabd> iceroot: No manual entry for cvs
[08:17] <alabd> ~cvs
[08:17] <Boohbah> yigal: oh, i bet you like emacs and seamonkey too :)
[08:17] <alabd> !cvs
[08:17] <iceroot> alabd: then its not installed
[08:17] <greezmunkey> guess print to file isn't an option :/
[08:18] <yigal> yang_: are you in audio group?
[08:18] <yang_> yigal:yes
[08:18] <yigal> yang_: weird
[08:18] <osirisx11> Billiard: my xorg log when glx was crashing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330059/
[08:18] <yigal> Boohbah: actually I'm a vim man, but I like the idea nonetheless :)
[08:18] <spO> i want to run two programs at once,   rma -fz << cat thelist
[08:19] <iceroot> spO: rma? you mean rm?
[08:19] <Billiard> osirisx11: sorry i dont really know much past using nvidia-xconfig lol
[08:19] <osirisx11> Billiard: thanks anyhow.
[08:19] <osirisx11> [karmic nvidia] xorg crashes on glx for 185, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330059/
[08:19] <yang_> yigal: hmm idk
[08:19] <Boohbah> spO: cat thelist > rma -fz    ?
[08:20] <spO> rma means real media analyzer,  it is somewhat of a outlierer proram/that no one probably uses....  it can fix rm/real media files one at a time... but i want to feed it a list
[08:20] <yigal> yang_: odd stuff, flash is so bad, but I must see my House, Dexter etc. so ?
[08:20] <iceroot> spO: for FILE in $(cat 'your-list'); do rm -rf FILE done
[08:21] <Boohbah> iceroot: rma != rm
[08:21] <iceroot> Boohbah: i dont know rma
[08:21] <spO> thanks
[08:21] <yang_> yigal: ?? lol . yeah cant wait for html 5 based players forget flash
[08:21] <Boohbah> spO: for i in *.rm; do rma -fz; done
[08:21] <yigal> yang_: what I have been doing lately is let files load, and then, mplayer /tmp/Fla*
[08:21] <Boohbah> spO: for i in *.rm; do rma -fz $i; done
[08:21] <Boohbah> spO: if you have .rm files in a dir
[08:22] <yang_> yigal: nice.. yeh i tired out screen, finch and elinks so im playing around with that haha
[08:23] <spO> how can i do it so i do it in subdirectories.... whereas the program would need osmething like full paths to try to work with lots of subdirectories
[08:23] <yigal> yang_: screen and w3m for me but I need my graphical stuffs, I just go an eee pc with a touch screen :)
[08:23] <yigal> yang_: eee pc t91mt
[08:23] <miha> hello i tried screen magnifier under assistive technologies... now that gnome session is fucked up.. how to delete that config? please? :D
[08:23] <bluntman225> I think my wirless adaptor uses AR5413. I read somewhere that it uses the ath5k kernel module. How to I enable it? modprobe ath5k does nothing
[08:23] <yang_> i want touch w/ linux.. plasma with KDE 4.4 will be nice i heard qt 4.6 is touch ready
[08:23] <Jordan_U> spO: Might be easier to just say what exactly you are trying to do
[08:24] <yang_> yigal: multitouch ready*
[08:24] <goose> when I run "svn co http://svn.blah.blah/blah/blah/", where does the SVN go?
[08:24] <Boohbah> spO: find . -iname *.rm | xargs rma -fz
[08:24] <iceroot> goose: at the place you started the command
[08:24] <yigal> yang_: right, :D
[08:24] <gharz> guys, i'm using transmission... but when i check my port i.e. port 25821 it says it is closed. when i'm using windoze app like utorrent... the port is open... does it have to do with my iptable? in case, how do i open a port to for transmission? please help
[08:24] <spO> : for i in *.rm; do rma -fz $i; done  works for files in the same directory.... I want to do the same but for lots of subdirectories and in each subdirectory there is a set or a bunch of .rm files
[08:24] <Boohbah> spO: 'find' will search subdirs
[08:24] <spO> boohbah, thanks
[08:25] <goose> iceroot: that's my home directory, but I don't see anything there... I get "svn: Repository moved temporarily to '/index.cgi/trunk/defender/'; please relocate"
[08:25] <yigal> yang_: it's so I can take written notes on a pc
[08:25] <gharz> anyone?
[08:25] <kermit_t> hi there anyone suing haier ce 100 in karmic koala?
[08:25] <iceroot> goose: the message wants to tell you that there is no repo you can checkout
[08:25] <yang_> yigal: i use panel with note widgets autohide.. its kool pull down notes lol
[08:25] <goose> iceroot: so my link is bad?
[08:25] <kermit_t> any one using haier ce 100 in karmic koala
[08:26] <iceroot> goose: correct
[08:26] <goose> thank you iceroot
[08:26] <iceroot> goose: read the message, there you get the new adress
[08:26] <Boohbah> gharz: do you have iptables rules running on your ubuntu machine? check with 'sudo iptables -L -n'
[08:26] <Jordan_U> gharz: Enable UPNP in transmission if it isn't already
[08:26] <Boohbah> UPNP yes
[08:26] <lockd> kermit_t, is that a WinModem?
[08:26] <opensky> hi
[08:27] <gharz> Boohbah: i ran the command... it's empty. there are no rules
[08:27] <kermit_t> lockd, no it is a cdma modem
[08:27] <goose> iceroot: it would appear to me that it's a bit of a paradox.. let me show you the entire command I'm trying to run here
[08:27] <ganjanaut> hello all, i've been working with some packages that appear to be a little out of date, and i was thinking of helping out by updating them.  can anyone point to some instructions on where to start?
[08:27] <kermit_t> i have some difficulty using haier ce 100 in ubuntu
[08:27] <Boohbah> gharz: ok, then make sure uPNP is enabled in transmission as Jordan_U says
[08:27] <opensky> for compile c++ program do i have write g++ -o *.c ?
[08:27] <goose> ircd@goose-server:~$ svn co http://svn.inspircd.org/index.cgi/trunk/defender/
[08:27] <goose> svn: Repository moved temporarily to '/index.cgi/trunk/defender/'; please relocate
[08:27] <goose> @ iceroot
[08:27] <iceroot> !details | kermit_t
[08:27] <gharz> Boohbah: let me search for it in the preference..
[08:27] <gharz> thanks
[08:27] <Boohbah> goose: /join #cvs
[08:27] <hadees> i'm moving over from gentoo and i have an xorg.conf setup specifically for my hdtv, i didn't see an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 does one exist on ubuntu and can i use my existing one?
[08:27] <osirisx11> [karmic nvidia] xorg crashes on glx for 185, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330059/
[08:27] <Boohbah> goose: sorry
[08:28] <Boohbah> goose: /join #svn
[08:28] <FloodBot1> Boohbah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <kermit_t> i have problem with connecting haier ce 100 cdma modem, im using karmic koala
[08:28] <Jordan_U> ganjanaut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[08:28] <iceroot> kermit_t: stop that spam and read what ubottu told you please
[08:28] <Boohbah> hadees: yes you can use your exisiting xorg.conf
[08:28] <lockd> kermit_t, it looks a lot like you will have to actually edit kernel code
[08:28] <yigal> hadees: glad to see a gentuist making the move
[08:29] <hadees> yigal, lol, i'm only doing on my htpc
[08:29] <gharz> Boohbah & Jordan_U: "Use UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding from my router" is ticked. after i click Test Port, it says port is closed. :( should i open the port using iptable?
[08:29] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[08:29] <lockd> kermit_t, http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:OmDw0aD6GTIJ:tantos.web.id/blogs/how-to-internet-connection-using-haier-ce100-and-ubuntu-9-04+haier+ce+100+linux&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1
[08:29] <Boohbah> yigal: hadees: i am also a gentooist and ubuntuist :)
[08:29] <Jordan_U> ganjanaut: Just updating a package is usually very easy but to ensure quality and inclusion in Debian / Ubuntu you are going to need to understand much more about packaging
[08:29] <osirisx11> anyone here using karmic, nvidia, and have working 3d?
[08:29] <SLKC> Hello all
[08:29] <kermit_t> im not spamming, how to upgrading the kernel?
[08:29] <iceroot> osirisx11: sure, you got a real question?
[08:29] <goose> kermit_t: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:30] <SLKC> How want Google Wave Invitation ?
[08:30] <osirisx11> iceroot:  [karmic nvidia] xorg crashes on glx for 185, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330059/
[08:30] <ganjanaut> Jordan_U: thanks, any info you can share is much appreciated
[08:30] <bazhang> SLKC, wrong channel
[08:30] <yigal> Boohbah: I'm an archist
[08:30] <SLKC> ok
[08:30] <SLKC> bazhang,
[08:30] <lockd> kermit_t, that's not upgrading the kernel... that's actually MODIFYING kernel code. It's not trivial, but that looks like the only way to get it working
[08:30] <iceroot> osirisx11: post it to the channel please
[08:31] <ooaaaoo> hey guys whenever i run synaptic to install/uninstall something I get the following error : E: ttf-mscorefonts-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:31] <ooaaaoo> what should I do?
[08:31] <hadees> Boohbah, so where is xorg.conf located if not in /etc/X11 ?
[08:31] <yang_> @ooaaaoo maybe broken package apt-get -f install
[08:31] <Andycas> I have some broken packages, what was the command to fix them?
[08:32] <coz_> ooaaaoo,  ^^
[08:32] <Jordan_U> ganjanaut: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJzM2LNOtWU&feature=channel , his other videos are good also ( and again you should look into more than just what's in this video )
[08:32] <alabd> how to know where icedtea-gcjwebplugin .so file is saved ?
[08:32] <cryptk> hadees, /usr/lib/xorg and/or /usr/lib34/xorg
[08:32] <kermit_t> i have difficulty connecting haier ce 100 cdma modem into the internet, im using 9.10, i have using wvdial and it apppears failed
[08:32] <kermit_t> lockd, how to editing kernel code? im new in ubuntu
[08:32] <BoriTori> how can i remove the wrong dir from PATH and add the correct dir to PATH
[08:32] <osirisx11> iceroot: what do you mean post it to the channel?
[08:33] <ct529> whenever I update the kernel, the new kernel is added on top of the list in grub .... is it possible to clean the grub menu list automatically, so that you only have one working kernel and not a list of 6 different kernels?
[08:33] <ganjanaut> Jordan_U: ty, will do!
[08:33] <lockd> kermit_t, you have to follow those instructions to the letter
[08:33] <ooaaaoo> what should I do?
[08:33] <ooaaaoo> hey guys whenever i run synaptic to install/uninstall something I get the following error : E: ttf-mscorefonts-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:33] <SwedeMike> ct529: apt-get autoremove should remove the no longer needed kernels
[08:33] <lockd> kermit_t, http://bit.ly/6k2o6z
[08:33] <kermit_t> where's the instruction?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> ganjanaut: np
[08:33] <hadees> cryptk, i don't see xorg.conf in either of those places
[08:33] <lockd> kermit_t, http://bit.ly/6k2o6z
[08:33] <ct529> SwedeMike: but it attempts to remove a lot of different packages
[08:34] <lockd> kermit, I won't spam that anymore
[08:34] <cryptk> oops, hang on, I thought you were asking for something else...
[08:34] <cryptk> one sec
[08:34] <damo22> is there a text based IM client you can use over SSH?
[08:34] <SwedeMike> ct529: yes, it removes the packages no longer needed, that was automatically installed because of something else
[08:34] <eNTi> hey. i'm wondering why my IP has been banned from ubuntuforums.org. i've never even written anything there. i usually only browse these forums after a search from google to find some answeres to general issues with my linux system...
[08:34] <cryptk> you said it is NOT in /etc/X11
[08:34] <Il__Matteo> hi everybody!
[08:34] <lockd> kermit_t, supposedly you can just eject the device, "rmmod usbserial" and "modprobe usbserial"
[08:35] <hayt> Does anyone use XBMC on karmic?
[08:35] <ct529> SwedeMike: it is removing wine! orgh!
[08:35] <lockd> kermit_t, it appears as a storage device right?
[08:35] <q0_0p> !codecs
[08:35] <ooaaaoo> hey guys whenever i run synaptic to install/uninstall something I get the following error : E: ttf-mscorefonts-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:35] <bazhang> hayt, from the ppa?
[08:35] <SwedeMike> ct529: well then I guess you have to remove the kernel packages manually instead
[08:35] <ooaaaoo> what should I do?
[08:35] <lockd> kermit_t, it's a broken piece of hardware that says it's a storage device first
[08:35] <Jordan_U> eNTi: It may be that someone using the same ISP as you was banned and you now have the IP address they had when they were banned. If you have a dynamic ip address that is ( which most people do )
[08:35] <kermit_t> im sorry, what is the definition of the spam, im not spamming, im asking some help
[08:36] <ct529> SwedeMike: oh £$^£$$&%!!!!! It has removed wine and the configuration .....
[08:36] <cryptk> hadees, you said you couldn't find it in /etc/X11
[08:36] <Il__Matteo> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 KK and i use an hp 3180 printer. how can i see the spooler application to cancel interrupted printouts?
[08:36] <SwedeMike> ct529: are you sure it removed the configuration? try installing wine again, default is not to purge the config
[08:36] <SwedeMike> that's what I thought anyway.
[08:36] <hayt> bazhang: Yes, 9.11~beta1.
[08:36] <kermit_t> yes, first recognize as a storage device, im already eject the device
[08:36] <kermit_t> im already sudo modprobe
[08:37] <ct529> SwedeMike: who on earth is configuring the autoremove to remove packages that are linked to existing packages?????
[08:37] <SwedeMike> ct529: I have no idea, mine doesn't do that.
[08:37] <osirisx11> anyone here using  karmic and nvidia and have working 3d? xorg crashes on glx for 185, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330059/
[08:37] <bazhang> hayt, you have a question about it? better to give a fully detailed description of your issue to the channel, along with a pastebin of any errors you have gotten
[08:37] <bluntman225> when I use uname -r i get 2.6.28-6-386. I am using Jaunty Jackalope server. What version of linux-backports-modules should I get?
[08:37] <lockd> kermit_t, I said /I/ wouldn't spam the link again. since I gave it and you asked again
[08:38] <mr_p1nk> Hi I'm having some trouble with lmms, and I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with it.
[08:38] <lockd> kermit_t, and the device is still not detected?
[08:38] <kermit_t> okay, thanks then
[08:38] <iceroot> !repeat | kermit_t (this is spam)
[08:38] <mr_p1nk> I've recently installed it, and can't get any sound out of the piano roll. Whenever I try to sample any of the sounds it sounds like feedback, and it is crashing randomly.
[08:38] <ooaaaoo> hey guys I have an error everytime I try to run apt :http://pastebin.com/m2bcbcaf0
[08:39] <ooaaaoo> can someone help me out?
[08:39] <hayt> bazhang: xbmc starts, but all I get is a black screen with a mouse pointer.  The pointer will not move.  I have to kill xmbc.bin from another terminal.
[08:39] <ct529> SwedeMike: apt-get is from the repository, it is not the kind of package you want to go and modify ....
[08:39] <dave99> hey people
[08:40] <mdeonte> please https://monteledwards.com/tun/browse.php?u=Oi8vc21vdWNoLm5ldC9sb2wv&b=5&f=norefer
[08:41] <ct529> SwedeMike: and it did not clean up the kernels ....
[08:41] <rance94> how do u open a .png file in pygame and nobody is talking in the python chat soo can somebody help me
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> ooaaaoo, you need to use "sudo apt-get autoremove" anything with apt-get requires root privilege and thus needs sudo
[08:41] <iceroot> rance94: no, this is ubuntu support not python-support
[08:41] <bragr> So I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64bit server edition on my home server (Zotac ITX board, Celeron Dual-Core (Allendale), 2 GB DDR 800, 3X WD 320GB SATA drives). I have the drives partitioned like this: sda1: .5 GB ext4 /boot sda2: 316GB Soft RAID sdb1 .5GB swap sdb2: 316GB Soft RAID sdc1 .5GB swap sdc2: 316GB Soft RAID. The RAID partitions comprise one RAID 5 formatted with ext4. When the installer prompted for a location to install GRUB is s
[08:41] <bragr> uggested /dev/sda and I accepted it. On reboot, the word GRUB followed by a blinking cursors appears and it silently hangs there. Have tried reinstalling. I did a google search and nothing jumped out at me. Anyone got any ideas or solutions on how to fix this?
[08:42] <ooaaaoo> ZykoticK9: doesnt seem to have made a difference...
[08:42] <iceroot> rance94: http://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/image.html
[08:42] <SwedeMike> ct529: then you have to find the kernel packages and remove them with dpkg. I usually do dpkg --list | grep <kernel version> and then cut/paste the ones I want to remove into dpkg --remove
[08:42] <bluntman225> I dont have a network connection, but I need to to install linux-backports-modules. Im running Jaunty jackalaope. how to I pick which package to pull off the net and then scp it to my computer
[08:42] <rance94> ok iceroot how do i open a png file in pygame on ubuntu since i am new to ubuntu so i need some help
[08:42] <Deep_Thought> m trying to get rsync to download stuff off my server and put it on a backup folder on my laptop and i keep getting this error  http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6404e400
[08:42] <Moning342> !best
[08:42] <luux> wurups my negroes!!
[08:43] <iceroot> rance94: again!! this is ubuntu support,, so go to #python, read a manual or use google
[08:43] <ct529> SwedeMike: yes, you can do it manually, but I would have thought tjere was a automatic way of doing it. Thanks a lot for your help.
[08:43] <bazhang> luux that language is not acceptable here. Please desist.
[08:43] <luux> it's   a term of endearing
[08:43] <maco> luux: no, its not
[08:44] <luux> but anyways... what's the ubuntu way to change Xorg driver?
[08:44] <luux> I am stuck with a freaking nvidiafb at a lame res and is OFF centered on the monitor :(
[08:44] <luux> help
[08:44] <Il__Matteo> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 KK and i use an hp 3180 printer. how can i see the spooler application to cancel interrupted printouts?
[08:44] <luux> there's no xorg.conf
[08:45] <SwedeMike> ct529: well, it's automatic on my system, I just removed the -14 kernel using autoremove
[08:45] <luux> oO almost 1300 nicks
[08:45] <ct529> SwedeMike: did you install from scratch or updated automatically?
[08:45] <luux> hello?
[08:45] <SwedeMike> ct529: this is an 8.10 installation updated to 9.04 and then to 9.10
[08:45] <iceroot> !enter | luux
[08:45] <ooaaaoo> hi guys im having an issue with synaptic/apt : http://pastebin.com/m2efd307
[08:46] <SwedeMike> ct529: but I removed the 9.04 kernels manually.
[08:46] <ct529> SwedeMike: 32 bit? 64 bit?
[08:46] <luux> I am not
[08:46] <SwedeMike> ct529: 32bit.
[08:47] <soda_zs> sdf
[08:47] <soda_zs> a
[08:47] <soda_zs> s
[08:47] <soda_zs> sdfa
[08:47] <soda_zs> asdf
[08:47] <FloodBot1> soda_zs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <soda_zs> adf
[08:47] <luux> alright I've centered through the PHYSICAL monitor menu. but it's stuck at 800x600 res
[08:47] <rww> ooaaaoo: The error you're getting is because the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer isn't installed properly. That package attempts to download a number of files from Sourceforge during setup, and it appears this is failing. From the look of it, it's attempting to connect through a proxy at www-proxy.adelaide.edu.au, which isn't working right.
[08:47] <spO> find . -iname *.rm | xargs rma -fz
[08:47] <spO> xargs: rma: terminated by signal 11
[08:48] <ooaaaoo> rww: yeah I noticed that, how do I tell apt/synaptic to not use a proxy? IM pretty sure i selected "direct connection " from the preferences menu
[08:49] <ooaaaoo> rww: plus how do i tell it to NOT use m$corefonts
[08:49] <spO> how do i make it so the output of find gets pu tinto the xargs?
[08:50] <rww> ooaaaoo: so in the Synaptic program, Settings -> Preferences -> Network has "Direct connection to the internet" set?
[08:50] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[08:50] <bragr> can someone point me in the dirrection GRUB2 help. I can't get my box to boot.
[08:51] <ooaaaoo> rww: yup
[08:51] <rww> !grub2 | bragr
[08:51] <spO>  find . -iname *.rm | xargs rma -fz  <--- do any of you knwo the problems with this?  how do i make the find results to be at the end of the line?
[08:51] <bragr> thank you
[08:51] <maco> spO: i dont know what the rma command does
[08:51] <ooaaaoo> rww: more importanty why am I using msfonts by default and how do i disable it?
[08:51] <spO> it is a third party program that no one uses... it is real media analyzer... to fix rm files
[08:52] <maco> ooaaaoo: you could msttcorefonts
[08:52] <rww> ooaaaoo: you're not using them by default, you installed a program that depends or recommends them. Since the package is currently broken, we need to figure this out so you can remove it, I think.
[08:52] <maco> spO: perhaps you need -print0 for find?
[08:52] <spO> it doesn't matter what rma does, i just need the end
[08:52] <maco> ooaaaoo: um the verb remove was missing in my sentence
[08:52] <hadees> i'm trying to build dep just for xbmc when i do sudo apt-get build-dep xbmc i get Unable to find a source package for xbmc but if i try to install it seems to work
[08:52] <rww> ooaaaoo: Anyway, from the look of it, it's downloading with wget, so it wouldn't be using apt's proxy settings. Hmm. What's System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy set to in GNOME?
[08:53] <maco> hadees: do you have the deb-src lines commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:53] <maco> rww: ooh i remember this bug...
[08:53] <ooaaaoo> rww: currently, direct, but when Im in school I have a school profile which corresponds to the proxy settings you saw in the cli o/p
[08:53] <rww> maco: the one I remember had some sort of broken default proxy, though, not a specific real-sounding one.
[08:53] <spO> print 0?
[08:53] <ooaaaoo> rww: brb drink of water
[08:53] <spO> find doesn't have a print option
[08:54] <maco> rww: thats what i was thinking of
[08:54] <hadees> maco, this is a new install, i haven't done anything yet
[08:54] <maco> spO: yes it does
[08:54] <ct529> SwedeMike: ok .... I recovered most things
[08:54] <hadees> maco, i don't see any deb-src commented out
[08:54] <maco> hadees: run "sudo apt-get update" then?
[08:54] <happosade> How dows xrand works
[08:54] <maco> spO: -print0 fixes the spaces-between-words issue with |
[08:55] <spO>  find -print0 . -iname  *.rm
[08:55] <spO> find: paths must precede expression: .
[08:55] <hadees> maco, didn't help
[08:55] <happosade> If I would like to set my resolution to 1680x1050
[08:55] <maco> spO: the . has to be first thing after find
[08:55] <yang__> yigil: iceroot: you guys still there?
[08:55] <maco> happosade: first type "xrandr" and pastebin it
[08:55] <pagan0ne_> hey, anyone ever had a problem where someone installed UNR then installed ubuntu-desktop and got "stuck" inbetween both? i have the UNR bar at the top, but "clutter" and no icons.... help!
[08:55] <maco> !pastebin | happosade
[08:55] <yang__> yigil: iceroot: sound does not work at all now ...
[08:56] <happosade> maco: http://pastebin.com/f6a7e2283
[08:56] <zerq> crappy hostel wifi is crappy -_-
[08:56] <spO> find . -print0 -iname *.rm | xargs rma -fz
[08:56] <spO> xargs: Warning: a NUL character occurred in the input.  It cannot be passed through in the argument list.  Did you mean to use the --null option?
[08:56] <spO> xargs: rma: terminated by signal 11
[08:56] <maco> happosade: it claims it *is* set to 1680x1050
[08:56] <spO> i don't think i should use -print0
[08:56] <rww> ooaaaoo: hmm. Go ahead and try "sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer". Maybe it will still remove despite being in a broken state.
[08:57] <happosade> maco: ok--- Then I have some zoom on. How to zoom out to 1:1
[08:57] <spO> i think the problem is xargs doesn't put anything after -fz ... for   find . -iname *.rm | xargs rma -fz
[08:57] <spO> xargs: rma: terminated by signal 11
[08:57] <ron-l-j> "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. if you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[08:57] <ct529> what is the differenc ebetween linux-image-xxxx and linux-image-xxxx-generic
[08:57] <ooaaaoo> rww: i think that did it :)
[08:58] <maco> happosade: if you move the mouse to the edge does the whole screen seem to scroll?
[08:58] <ooaaaoo> rww: let me check it by uninstalling something via sypnatic
[08:58] <pagan0ne_> anyone? help with a broken gnome system somewhere between UNR and gnome-panel
[08:58] <happosade> maco: yes
[08:58] <rww> ooaaaoo: alright
[08:58] <maco> happosade: ah ok thats fun.  the virtual size...hrm....
[08:58] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: How is it "broken"?
[09:00] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, well, i have the UNR "bar" at the top like its still the "clutter" desktop, but i dont have the UNR "menu" - ie clutter running, i try launching netbook-launcher does nothing... gnome-panel --replace does nothing aswell
[09:00] <happosade> maco: I don't have scroll. Otherwise it would be something like super_l and scroll down
[09:00] <truebld> which is a suitable channel for discussing about networking etc??
[09:01] <mdeonte> can someone tell me what this screenshot is of? https://monteledwards.com/tun/browse.php?u=Oi8vc21vdWNoLm5ldC9sb2wv&b=5&f=norefer
[09:01] <ooaaaoo> rww: yup that did it
[09:01] <maco> happosade: but i mean, the whole desktop moves when you move the mouse to the edge?
[09:01] <maco> happosade: so its panning?
[09:01] <happosade> Yes
[09:01] <ooaaaoo> rww: damn M$ , trying to get into my ubuntu and mess with things!
[09:02] <maco> happosade: ok this is one i havent tried to do with xrandr, but lemme read through the manpage a bit...
[09:02] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, get what i mean?
[09:02] <rww> ooaaaoo: alright. Did you want to figure out why wget is trying to use a proxy, or are you satisfied with the package being gone :)?
[09:02] <ooaaaoo> rww: id like to know
[09:03] <iceroot> !ops | mdeonte
[09:03] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Is it possible that the desktup is running above the clutter?
[09:03] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: ie, have you checked `ps aux` to see if everything is running?
[09:03] <Madpilot> iceroot, what's up?
[09:03] <iceroot> Madpilot: open his link and see
[09:03] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, i doubt it, theres no icons, and nothing works except the system bar on the top "panel" alt+f2 brings up a run dialog and thats about it
[09:04] <rww> Madpilot: mdeonte's link is one of those irritating rickrolls you can't close
[09:04] <teamcoltra> Hey friends... My internet went down a few hours ago in the whole house.. and apparently it came back, for everyone but me.... now I try and connect via the wireless and it wont connect... however... even my phone is working (WPA connection) is there a way for me to just kinda... reset my wifi card and see if that works?
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter__> anyone care to help me identify why a site I have setup just like all other sites refuses to point to the actual site directory in /var/www/... but instead it is locked to /var/www/?
[09:04] <Madpilot> rww, it closed perfectly in epiphany :) and I see elky has already dealt with him...
[09:04] <rww> ooaaaoo: Alright. can you link me to that paste.ubuntu.com page you linked earlier, please?
[09:04] <iceroot> elky: thx
[09:05] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: does ps aux yeld any lines indicating the clutter to be started.
[09:05] <BlueEagle> ?
[09:05] <ooaaaoo> http://pastebin.com/m2efd307
[09:05] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, if i could just get UNR back id be happy, didnt really care too much about gnome-panel, ill do a ps aux for you
[09:05] <ooaaaoo> rww: http://pastebin.com/m2efd307
[09:05] <maco> happosade: maybe try "xrandr --panning=1680x1050"?
[09:06] <bragr> i read through the grub2 wiki page and it did not address my issue, anyone want to try their luck?
[09:06] <fadeh> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu but after the reboot grub gives me an error: "unknown filesystem". After some try (checking device.map and stuff) I think the main problem is that the linux partition, where grub is installed in, is too far away from the mbr of that disk. Linux is actually installed in the last 30GB of a 1TB USB hard disk. If I use a pendrive to boot the system all works like a charm. What I need to know is: can I overwrite the mbr
[09:06] <happosade> maco: no...
[09:06] <rww> ooaaaoo: thanks. Do you get any output from "env | grep -i proxy"? if so, can you pastebin it?
[09:06] <happosade> maco: it just shows the help after that
[09:06] <spO> the problem with find is that it doesn't put special characters for white spaces,  is ther esomething to do this?
[09:06] <spO> the results don't have special characters for white spaces
[09:06] <Silicon_Wolf> I have a nice HOWTO for Grub2 if you want it
[09:06] <ooaaaoo> rww: env grep proxy doesnt spit anything out
[09:07] <fadeh> i'm actually using grub1
[09:07] <Silicon_Wolf> oh
[09:07] <BlueEagle> fadeh: Yes, you can overwrite the MBR. I am not however sure that you want to do that.
[09:07] <Silicon_Wolf> might want to upgrade
[09:07] <maco> happosade: umm.   xrandr --output default --panning 1680x1050
[09:07] <maco> happosade: maybe that?
[09:07] <bragr> does it solve the problem of the word GRUB being printed out and then hanging without and error?
[09:07] <fadeh> a friend of mine said grub1 doesnt support ntfs, is that right?
[09:07] <Silicon_Wolf> no
[09:07] <Silicon_Wolf> it does
[09:07] <Silicon_Wolf> Grub2 works nicely though
[09:07] <happosade> X Error of failed request:  BadRRCrtc (invalid Crtc parameter) and few other lines
[09:07] <rww> ooaaaoo: curious. Any proxy-related stuff in "sudo env"?
[09:07] <fadeh> so I can install grub on my windows partition and then boot a multiloader from there?
[09:08] <Silicon_Wolf> yea
[09:08] <happosade> maybe rebooting X
[09:08] <Silicon_Wolf> private message me your email
[09:08] <Silicon_Wolf> I'll send you my howto
[09:08] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, yes i have netbook-launcher and gnome-panel running, weird thing is gnome-panel's pid is steady where as netbook-launcher's is hopping all over like its continually trying to respawn or something
[09:08] <BlueEagle> fadeh: Grub does not live inside a file system per say. It lives in the boot records. You may have trouble reading configuration files from ntfs partitions though.
[09:08] <spO> if i do a find ... how can i make it so the results have special characters "\ " for spaces... i need this for xargs
[09:08] <ooaaaoo> rww: rootzilla@rootzilla-laptop:~$ sudo env | grep proxy
[09:08] <ooaaaoo> rootzilla@rootzilla-laptop:~$
[09:09] <freeby> can anyone tell me how to use wine?
[09:09] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: if a PID is not the same between two ps aux then the process has been restarted, yes. That would indicate a broken configuration.
[09:09] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: does /var/log/ contain anything useful?
[09:10] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, it changes constantly, ill look in /var/log/ what types of useful info should i be looking for, output from netbook-launcher?
[09:10] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Alternately, can you kill the netbook-launcher process and start it from a terminal? That may provide useful debug information.
[09:10] <ooaaaoo> rww:  was that what you were looking for?
[09:10] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, how can i kill it if i never know its pid?
[09:10] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Typically errors from netbook-launcher would be desirable when debuggin that process. ;)
[09:10] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: killall netbook-launcher
[09:10] <bragr> are there any known problems with GRUB2 and software RAID?
[09:11] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: ie, killall does take process names.
[09:11] <gwrtheyrn> hello. iwconfig can see my wlan card, but it says its disabled (tx-power=off)... how can i enable it?
[09:11] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, ty
[09:11] <BlueEagle> bragr: yes. It appears that it doesn't work all the time.
[09:11] <rww> ooaaaoo: yeah. That's weird. wget uses the http_proxy variable to get a proxy server, but it doesn't appear to be set =/
[09:12] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, ive run several killall netbook-launcher's and the process still persists, like something is spawning it
[09:12] <ooaaaoo> what about wget, where are its settings set?
[09:12] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: killall -9 netbook-launcher
[09:12] <bragr> BlueEagle: my /boot is plain ext4 but everything else is ext4 on a software RAID 5
[09:12] <BlueEagle> bragr: ...and?
[09:13] <rww> ooaaaoo: /etc/wgetrc
[09:13] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, still running, persistant bugger
[09:13] <rww> ooaaaoo: there is a proxy option in there, too. check if that's set
[09:13] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: do you have netbook-launcher or similar in /etc/init.d/ or /etc/init/ ?
[09:13] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, ill look
[09:13] <bragr> BlueEagle: Bios slash screen, the word "GRUB" and a blinking cursor, and it hangs there, no error
[09:14] <SuperPii> why can't i play full HD smoothly on Ubuntu?
[09:15] <Billiard> SuperPii: what processor you have?
[09:15] <BlueEagle> bragr: When it doesn't yeld any error message then it typically is unable to figure out where its configuration files are. This may happen when the BIOS and linux disagree of which HDD is where.
[09:15] <ooaaaoo> rww: http://pastebin.com/m34d80e26
[09:15] <BlueEagle> bragr: Typically you would boot a live-cd and retry installing grub.
[09:15] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, no netbook-launcher in /etc/init or init.d
[09:15] <ooaaaoo> rww: they seem to be commented out
[09:15] <spO> find . -iname *.rm -ls   shows me directories with "\ " special characters that i need for white spaces, but the -ls also shows me more information such as user and group ownership, which i don't need... i just need the filename with special characters
[09:15] <bragr> BlueEagle: I just did, nothing
[09:15] <teamcoltra> Hey friends... My internet went down a few hours ago in the whole house.. and apparently it came back, for everyone but me.... now I try and connect via the wireless and it wont connect... however... even my phone is working (WPA connection) is there a way for me to just kinda... reset my wifi card and see if that works?
[09:16] <luckymurali> hi
[09:16] <kcj1993> when will gnome 3 be out?
[09:16] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, wouldnt it be more benificial to look @ the configs to figure out whats causing it to try to load both gnome-panel and netbook-launcher?
[09:16] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: You may want to check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:16] <bazhang> kcj1993, is that related to ubuntu support?
[09:17] <d9500> kcj1993, planned for autumn 2010, i think
[09:17] <luckymurali> to_date('30-OCT-07','DD-MON-RR') to be converted to '30-OCT-07'
[09:17] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:17] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <rww> ooaaaoo: Hmm. Well, I'm out of places to look, personally. That's all the places it would be that I know about :/
[09:17] <luckymurali> please tell me how can i get this using sed
[09:17] <bazhang> ooaaaoo, fresh install?
[09:18] <ooaaaoo> bazhang: almost, probably 2 weeks at most
[09:18] <luckymurali> Billiards, this regex is making me mad
[09:18] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: That would only help if you had an understanding as to what the different configuration settings do and what may cause conflict.
[09:18] <bazhang> ooaaaoo, I had the exact same bug, it does install them after a number of tries.
[09:18] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Have you attempted to kill the gnome-panel btw?
[09:18] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, think i found it, for dome reason its trying to load nvidia-glx and this is a intel card
[09:18] <kcj1993> d9500: thanks
[09:18] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, if i kill gnome-panel it respawns aswell
[09:18] <Billiard> luckymurali: i dont understand what you want
[09:18] <ooaaaoo> bazhang: what is a bug?
[09:18] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Then you may want to uninstall the nVidia drivers.
[09:18] <luckymurali> how can i use sed to convert "to_date('30-OCT-07','DD-MON-RR')" to '30-OCT-07'
[09:19] <luckymurali> Billiard, you got now??
[09:19] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, im doing that now, no idea how they got on the system as its never had a nvidia card :p
[09:19] <kcj1993> bazhang: ubuntu has gnome so yes it is.
[09:19] <bazhang> ooaaaoo, or connection error, relating to connection to the msfonts dl sites
[09:19] <yang__> can somebody help me troubleshoot sound.. tried the online guide. sound card shows up. drivers are loaded. hardware is good. but no sound
[09:19] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Alternately have a look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to see if your device is being configured automatically or if it's being auto detected.
[09:19] <GenericBox> If anyone has any troubles getting sound to work on LG LW Laptops I am now the master! Only kidding but I just fixed my 24 hour sound problem! Woot!
[09:19] <bazhang> kcj1993, not really, as it is not out, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:20] <GenericBox> Yang__: What is the problem?
[09:20] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, xorg.conf is pretty much empty, its all auto configed
[09:20] <luckymurali> I have string  "to_date('30-OCT-07','DD-MON-RR')"
[09:20] <maco> GenericBox: hehe interested in wading into the audio world?
[09:20] <kcj1993> bazhang: I am
[09:20] <luckymurali> how can i use sed or tr command to get output as '30-OCT-07'
[09:20] <yang__> GenericBox: had sound until like 10 minutes ago, came on her for problem with falsh, set permission on /dev/dsp rwxrwxrwx flash sound worked
[09:21] <yang__> GerneicBox: rebooted and no sound works
[09:21] <hayt> yang: Are you a member of the appropriate group(s)?
[09:21] <luckymurali> Billiard, is this ok??
[09:21] <ooaaaoo> bazhang: why is it using M$ fonts anyways?
[09:21] <yang__> hayt:audio , yes
[09:21] <bazhang> ooaaaoo, its part of ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:21] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: You might want to look into learning perl if you want to do serious work with regex's
[09:21] <kcj1993> bazhang: its not like I'm asking how everybody's day is.
[09:22] <luckymurali> Jordan_U, hi
[09:22] <luckymurali> cant i make it with sed command??
[09:22] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: If the problem persists it may be beneficial to spesifically configure your devices.
[09:22] <luckymurali> :(
[09:22] <maco> yang__: what did you do to /dev/dsp?
[09:22] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: Also, a fully configured system loads a tad faster then if the system needs to auto detect every device every time (or so I believe)
[09:22] <yang__> maco: rm -rf /dev/dsp  ... jk chmod 777 /dev/dsp
[09:22] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, well it was all working fine up untill i tried to install ubuntu-desktop along side UNR
[09:23] <Billiard> luckymurali: try grep -o "'[0-9][^']*'"
[09:23] <tsimpson> luckymurali: try asking in ##sed
[09:23] <maco> yang__: well um thats not right permissions. can you put them back to 660?
[09:23] <luckymurali> Billiard, thanks
[09:23] <luckymurali> tsimpson, thanks
[09:23] <maco> yang__: and instead we'll figure out what was really wrong with flash?
[09:24] <BlueEagle> pagan0ne_: I think ubuntu-desktop tries to load some compiz stuff by default. That may explain the attempt to get a glx. It should have used mesa though.
[09:24] <yang__> maco: sure one sec. ... also maco no sound works. not just flash i cant get amarok or system settings sound test to work at all
[09:24] <GenericBox> Are there any sexy themes for Ubuntu and how do I get them? << Newbie.
[09:24] <zzmaui> hellow
[09:24] <bazhang> !themes | GenericBox
[09:24] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, well hopefully completly removing all the nvidia stuff will fix it
[09:24] <yang__> maco: /dev/dsp permissions set straight again
[09:25] <bazhang> GenericBox, dl the tar.gz then drag and drop on the theme manager (right click desktop change background, go to themes tab)
[09:25] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, im going to reboot to restart the xserver, ill be back if the problem persists
[09:25] <zzmaui> yang__, elow
[09:25] <Juzman>  /j #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <pagan0ne_> BlueEagle, thank you for your help thus far ;)
[09:25] <Juzman> bah
[09:25] <yang__> zzmaui: hi
[09:25] <zzmaui> hehe
[09:26] <GenericBox> Bazhang: Thanks for hat.
[09:26] <yang__> maco: is there a next step? set more restricitive permission probably wont help .. even tho they are correct.
[09:26] <GenericBox> Bazhang: *that ;)
[09:27] <maco> yang__: #ubuntu-audio-help this channel has too much talking to follow easily
[09:28] <zzmaui> yang__, hi im using xubuntu how can i see my windows partition? thnx
[09:28] <ooaaaoo> ZykoticK9: so , any ideas?
[09:28] <yang__> zzmaui: mount it
[09:28] <yang__> zzmaui: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[09:29] <zzmaui> yang__, how to mount it?
[09:29] <zzmaui> ill just type that command
[09:29] <yang__> proabbly sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:30] <zzmaui> ok thnx ill try it
[09:31] <difedepe> hi, can you help me with microphone? I'm not able to listen to it
[09:32] <zzmaui> yang__, i got a msg of cant find /dev/hda1 /mnt in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[09:32] <yang__> run ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:32] <user_> hello , I'm new user. I need support. Where i can go ?
[09:32] <yang__> paste out put
[09:32] <chilli0> Hi, Can you help me with my sd card slot its not working ( Lenovo ideapad Y530
[09:32] <Vaagling> con irc.chatcity.nl
[09:33] <kcj1993> anyone know how to get a new login in a window?
[09:33] <zzmaui> sudo mount /dev/hda1/mnt
[09:33] <zzmaui> [sudo] password for administrator:
[09:33] <zzmaui> mount: can't find /dev/hda1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:33] <pagan0ne> BlueEagle, that fixed it ;) stupid nvidia drivers!
[09:33] <yang__> zzmaui: no - "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid"
[09:33] <user_> hello , I'm new user. I need support. Where i can go ?
[09:33] <ooaaaoo> user_: here
[09:33] <ooaaaoo> user_: google
[09:33] <user_> ooaaaoo: thanks.
[09:33] <ooaaaoo> user_: forums
[09:34] <zzmaui> administrator@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:34] <zzmaui> total 0
[09:34] <zzmaui> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-11-27 14:28 1E8037CE8037AB63 -> ../../sda2
[09:34] <zzmaui> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-11-27 14:28 7458ECFE58ECBFCA -> ../../sda1
[09:34] <zzmaui> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-11-27 14:28 df5d0012-f125-4996-b26c-875f153e10eb -> ../../loop0
[09:34] <zzmaui> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-11-27 14:28 FAB0A4C6B0A48AA9 -> ../../sda5
[09:34] <FloodBot1> zzmaui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <joh> So can anyone tell me if they have any files in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/stock/media/ ?
[09:34] <user_> i'm installed on dell mini 9 ubunti 9.10 netbook remix but i've something to fix
[09:34] <yang__> zzmaui try "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[09:34] <user_> anyboby can help me ?
[09:34] <al_> if i am using a ubuntu box as a firewall, how can i monitor how much traffic each device on the LAN sends and receives to the internet?
[09:35] <ooaaaoo> user_: we can try
[09:35] <zzmaui> im mute?
[09:35] <ooaaaoo> user_: what seems to be the problem?
[09:35] <bazhang> zzmaui, you flooded the channel, use pastebin next time
[09:35] <yang__> zzmaui after "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" try ls /mnt and see if it is windows partition
[09:35] <bony> dose any one has an idea about NAS200 (Network Storage System)?
[09:36] <zzmaui> wats dat huhu sorry im a noob huhuhu
[09:36] <user_> ooaaaoo: thanks.. When start up , os say me that some applet fails.. and ask me if i want remove  : like home task bar applet
[09:36] <bazhang> zzmaui, paste.ubuntu.com   a website. to post more than a single line
[09:36] <user_> ooaaaoo: thanks.. When start up , os say me that some applet fails.. and ask me if i want remove  : like home task bar applet
[09:37] <zzmaui> awts
[09:37] <SuperPii> Billiard, E8400 running at 3 ghz
[09:37] <user_> ooaaaoo: are you there
[09:37] <yang__> zzmaui did you try mounting /dev/sda1 ?
[09:37] <ooaaaoo> user_: hmm do you have any specific error messages? if so can you paste it into www.pastebin.com and give us the link?
[09:38] <zzmaui> yang__, yup but it say only root can do that
[09:38] <user_> ooaaaoo: well i don't know how to do this....
[09:38] <ooaaaoo> well ok can you reproduce the problem?
[09:38] <user_> ooaaaoo: how ever if you can suggest me in what log file can i go i'll can send it
[09:39] <chilli0> Hi, Can you help me with my sd card slot its not working ( Lenovo ideapad Y530
[09:39] <yang__> zzmaui: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:39] <user_> ooaaaoo: just to reboot os. every time i fire os it take too mutch time to start and i'm remain waiting for this errors
[09:40] <ooaaaoo> user_: hmm, well im no expert but this site seems like a place for you to start , in terms of getting the right error data :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[09:41] <zzmaui> yang__, thanks for the help maybe  ill witch back to ubuntu hehe
[09:41] <stephenahpohliss> 2.6.31-15 is this version of ubuntu stable?
[09:41] <yang__> zzmaui: did it work?
[09:41] <mistahjc> hey i have an hp mini 1000 and was wondering if it was possible that it could hook up to my flat screen can anyone help
[09:41] <user_> ooaaaoo: but have you got an idea about the reason for that ? i've tried to install ubuntu 9.10 in ubuntu version and that problem comes rigth
[09:41] <zzmaui> yang__, nope i cant see my windows partition
[09:42] <manas> hi all
[09:42] <manas> i have a problem
[09:42] <zzmaui> yang__, bye thnx for the help
[09:42] <mistahjc> hey i have an hp mini 1000 and was wondering if it was possible that it could hook up to my flat screen can anyone help
[09:42] <yang__> zzmaui: work succfully ?
[09:42] <manas> every time i start my laptop i see different items on my anel
[09:42] <manas> panel i mean
[09:43] <mistahjc> or does anyone know how to install itunes on ubuntu 9.10
[09:43] <mistahjc> i need help with both
[09:43] <bazhang> mistahjc, cant be done
[09:43] <ooaaaoo> user_: DO THIS--> 1. restart computer & let everything load 2. open terminal and type "less /var/log/kern.log" 3. copy the output apd paste it into this website "www.pastebin.com" 4. copy the link of the pasted data and post it here
[09:43] <mistahjc> witch one
[09:43] <manas> this time it is showing me 2 icons for battery but none for wifi connection
[09:43] <bazhang> mistahjc, itunes
[09:43] <user_> ooaaaoo: ok i'll do this
[09:43] <mistahjc> really
[09:43] <user_> ooaaaoo: see you later
[09:43] <mistahjc> ?
[09:44] <ooaaaoo> user_: ok
[09:44] <user_> ooaaaoo: sorry cannot do this now ?
[09:44] <chilli0> Hi, Can you help me with my sd card slot its not working ( Lenovo ideapad Y530
[09:44] <ooaaaoo> huh?
[09:44] <mistahjc> bazhang: what should i do i have like alot of bought itunes and im changing computers and this one has lunix
[09:44] <user_> ooaaaoo: identyfing problem ?
[09:44] <aruna> Can i use both Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[09:45] <mistahjc> ok
[09:45] <mistahjc> i have an idea
[09:45] <bazhang> aruna, sure, install kubuntu-desktop and switch between them
[09:45] <ooaaaoo> user_:  yeah you could
[09:45] <mistahjc> is there a way that i can make my hp mini 1000 run max snow lepard?
[09:46] <bazhang> mistahjc, snow leopard? how does that relate to ubuntu support.
[09:46] <aruna> bazhang, i have ubuntu 9.10 installed  can i over right and switch between them ?
[09:46] <mistahjc> just cirrous
[09:46] <freku> Itunes : http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/ubuntu-910-manage-your-ipod-without-itunes-gtkpod/235958718
[09:46] <mistahjc> you guys are smart maybe you would know
[09:46] <bazhang> aruna, no need to overwrite, they exist there together, switch at login window under sessions
[09:46] <aruna> can ubuntu understand kubuntu
[09:46] <BlouBlou> aruna: at ubuntu login splash, you can select between gnome or kde
[09:46] <mistahjc> thanks freku
[09:46] <skinnYPuP> aruna, yeah
[09:47] <bazhang> aruna, gnome can use kde apps yes
[09:47] <BlouBlou> aruna: if you have got kubuntu-desktop installed
[09:47] <bazhang> mistahjc, its offtopic here, and hackintosh is offtopic on this network.
[09:47] <aruna> you mean i download kubunto-desktop in ubuntu and run it and install it ?
[09:47] <mistahjc> ok my bad
[09:47] <skinnYPuP> aruna, yeah
[09:47] <bazhang> aruna, kubuntu-desktop , yes
[09:48] <ardchoille> aruna: just install kubuntu-desktop like you would any other app
[09:48] <skinnYPuP> then you can choose which you want to log into
[09:48]  * ardchoille thinks that will be a large download though
[09:48] <mistahjc> hey on ubuntu 9.10 can you get a tool bar like a mac on the bottom of your screen?
[09:48] <skinnYPuP> google wbar
[09:49] <ardchoille> mistahjc: look into avant window navigator or cairo dock
[09:49] <bazhang> mistahjc, sure, there are a number of docks you can install
[09:49] <skinnYPuP> i use wbar in openbox to look macish
[09:49] <d9500> mistahjc, if you mean a dock, then yes, try cairo-dock or avant window navigator
[09:49] <d9500> ardchoille beat me to it.
[09:49] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I used to do folding@home, but now want to remove all folding files off my Ubuntu machine.  I've uninstalled origami, but within 'TOP', I'm still seeing 2 x FahCore_78.exe.  I cant remove these...can anyone advise please?
[09:49] <skinnYPuP> tint2 is a good docker too
[09:49] <ooaaaoo> user_: well?
[09:49] <bazhang> there is docky as well iirc
[09:49] <mistahjc> witch one do you think would be better
[09:49] <ardchoille> bazhang: yes
[09:50] <bazhang> mistahjc, matter of personal taste, try them and find out
[09:50] <ardchoille> docky is being taken out of gnome-do but is being made into a stand-alone app
[09:50] <mistahjc> thanks
[09:50] <skinnYPuP> mistahjc, its off topic but check out macpup.org based on puppy linux
[09:50] <bazhang> ardchoille, nice, thanks :)
[09:50] <mistahjc> i will
[09:52] <xyzee> I need help install ing9.10,  After install I have no keyboard or mouse.  I am on an ace with nvidia graphics
[09:52] <ooaaaoo> user_: do you have the pastebin log ?
[09:52] <ardchoille> bazhang: If you're interested:  http://maximumitblips.dailyradar.com/story/docky-official-development-ppa/
[09:52] <melrockz> where may i find plugins for exaile?
[09:53] <GenericBox> In movies like Die Hard 4.0 and stuff, what systems are they using? And how do you get your computer to look like that?
[09:53] <bazhang> ardchoille, thanks much!
[09:53] <ardchoille> yw
[09:53] <ooaaaoo> GenericBox: lolz
[09:53] <GenericBox> :D
[09:53] <GenericBox> << Newb
[09:53] <bazhang> GenericBox, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <GenericBox> Okay
[09:53] <melrockz> Where on the net may i find plugins for exaile meida player? Especially need an equalizer plugin... but don't want to change player.
[09:54] <pcbuilder97> i cant get flash to work inside of miro can anybody tell me how to fix it??
[09:55] <melrockz> what's miro?
[09:55] <ardchoille> melrockz: I found this: http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2007/02/12/graphic-equalizer-support-in-exaile/
[09:55] <maco> melrockz: its sort of a podcast program
[09:55] <pcbuilder97> miro internet tv
[09:55] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, anyone uses pidgin? if yes, it doesn't let me add new buddies, does it happen to you as well? thanks
[09:55] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: using jaunty or karmic?
[09:55] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: and which version of pidgin
[09:55] <pcbuilder97> its in the ubuntu software center   everything works but video
[09:56] <AngyCrazyEmoGirl> #ubuntu-it
[09:56] <AngyCrazyEmoGirl> scusate ragazzi, come faccio ad entrare nel forum di ubuntu in italiano?
[09:56] <bazhang> AngyCrazyEmoGirl, /join #ubuntu-it
[09:56] <AngyCrazyEmoGirl> bazhang, thank you
[09:57] <IpSe_DiXiT> om26er: using intrepid and pidgin's version's 2.5.2
[09:57] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: use the latest version.
[09:57] <xyzee> I need some help installing 9.10 on an acer with nvidia graphics.  After install I have no keyboard or mouse. Which boot options canm I try?
[09:57] <melrockz> this is programmer stuff :-(
[09:58] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[09:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> om26er: i dont think that is the prob though...
[09:58] <vina> ng dh d add yh
[09:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> om26er: or ull tellin me cuz u no itz a known bug/issue of the vers im using?
[09:58] <chilli0> Hi, Can you help me with my sd card slot its not working ( Lenovo ideapad Y530
[09:58] <pcbuilder97> ipse dixit    go to pidgin.im  in your browser and install the latest package of pidgin from their websit it will fix it
[09:58] <pcbuilder97> they have step by step how to install it
[09:59] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: but i think that is. which protocol contact you are trying to add.
[09:59] <IpSe_DiXiT> im26er: told you MSN
[09:59] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: install the latest and sure it will work.
[09:59] <melrockz> the equilizer seems to being built only
[09:59] <hyperstream> i just knocked the powercord to me pc and it switched off, i had a .php file open upon starting back up and opening the file, half of its contents is missing(over 2 days worth of work, it just cuts off half way through a function, is there any way i can recover this?
[10:00] <IpSe_DiXiT> om26er: in order to do so, do i have to unistall the vers im using or i can just upgrade it
[10:00] <IpSe_DiXiT> ?
[10:00] <om26er> IpSe_DiXiT: the link i provided will upgrade it
[10:00] <IpSe_DiXiT> om26er: right thanks
[10:00] <IpSe_DiXiT> ill give it a try and c
[10:01] <hyperstream> any idea's ?
[10:03] <microcamp> #ubuntu-br
[10:03] <IpSe_DiXiT> hyperstream: what kind of filesystem is ur hdd using?
[10:03] <lukmee> xhamster.com
[10:04] <hyperstream> ext4
[10:04] <hayt> Does anyone know why my 9.11~beta1-karmic2 xbmc would bring up a black screen with an unmoveable xbmc mouse pointer?
[10:04] <TeLLuS> Any problems with karmic with updates and nvidia stopping sometimes when starting xorg when it is loading GLX, only starting in about 1 of 6 reboots? I am using a ThinkPad T61p with nVidia FX 570M 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu x86_64, nvidia-glx-185 185.18.36-0ubuntu9, got same with -14 kernel
[10:04] <johnnash928383> hello ppl
[10:05] <hyperstream> IpSe_DiXiT, ext4
[10:05] <johnnash928383> hello
[10:05] <johnnash928383> i need some help
[10:05] <IpSe_DiXiT> hyperstream: well in this case u might have a chance
[10:05] <johnnash928383> my sound card stopped working on an HP tablet running ubuntu
[10:05] <hyperstream> how do i go about it mate
[10:05] <johnnash928383> and i dont know how to fix it
[10:06] <om26er> !help | johnnash928383
[10:06] <IpSe_DiXiT> hyperstream: of course have you done a bit of searching?
[10:06] <johnnash928383> yeah they suggest to update alsa
[10:06] <haegar_the_horri> can anyone help me burning the (ubuntu nbr 9.10 iso) to a usb drive? There is no .img file to download anymore.
[10:06] <hyperstream> IpSe_DiXiT, wanted the quickest answer alive, the longer im on this pc the higher possibilitys of it being written over(the space) thats about what i know lol
[10:07] <Juzman> When applications need elevation, and has "click to make changes" what application is run to "unlock" it.
[10:07] <om26er> haegar_the_horri: install unetbootin
[10:07] <Juzman> Seems it's not working on mine.
[10:07] <om26er> !usb | haegar_the_horri
[10:07] <lucas-ubuntu> #ubuntu-br
[10:08] <erUSUL> Juzman: is PolicyKit afaik
[10:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> hyperstream: i can only tell you look in all you TMP folders, the rest of ur file, might be there, of course under another name like 8912asd7897.something so try to understand itz possible size and check em all opening them with a text editor ("display") good luck
[10:09] <hyperstream> IpSe_DiXiT, TY
[10:09] <Juzman> erUSUL: Hmm, seems it's not working.
[10:09] <erUSUL> Juzman: maybe polkitd is not running ?
[10:09] <Dantonic> Hi, I'm trying to understand the concept of how to use vnc through an SSH tunnel, would someone answer a few questions?
[10:09] <erUSUL> Juzman: i dunno; make a bug report i do not know enough about this new Kit things
[10:10] <om26er> !question | Dantonic
[10:10] <erUSUL> Juzman: "man -k kit"
[10:11] <johnnash928383> can someone help  me configuring my sound card on ubuntu 9.10 on hp tablet pc. It was working fine yesterday and now it stopped working. A private conversation would be appreciated
[10:11] <Dantonic> All right, I've read  some stuff about the subject, but is the basic Idea that you are SSHing into the remote machine, and then from that remote machine you call up the vnc viewer?
[10:12] <Juzman> Will test in gnome and see if works
[10:12] <SineDeviance> in system monitor is every process that starts with a 'k' a kde process?
[10:12] <lstarnes> SineDeviance: no
[10:12] <SineDeviance> i installed kubuntu-desktop, played with it for a bit, then uninstalled it using the 'back to pure ubuntu' command
[10:12] <SineDeviance> but now my system is much slower
[10:13]  * om26er doubts that
[10:13] <SineDeviance> it's true
[10:13] <Dantonic> Could someone explain to me what this line means? ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 joe@laptop   and how do I apply it to Vino/vinagre?
[10:13] <SineDeviance> i really think something got left behind and is still running
[10:13] <SineDeviance> i'm seeing a noticeable drop in performance, like 50%
[10:13] <SineDeviance> it's bad
[10:16] <david_j_r> Can anyone shed any light on what is happening with bug #417757, the network-delay issue that arose with the release of 9.10? After much discussion, it is "confirmed" but still "unassigned"! I rolled back to 9.04, but would like to see a fix and upgrade for good! References to follow...
[10:16] <ganjanaut> is there a way to request that a package be synced with an upstream release?
[10:16] <mattcen> Dantonic: ssh -L5900:localhost:5900 joe@laptop. SSh to 'laptop' with user 'joe'. When this is done forward the port 5900 from the system that 'laptop' sees as 'localhost' (i.e. itself), to port 5900 on the system you're SSH-ing from
[10:16] <david_j_r> Links for bug #417757:
[10:16] <erUSUL> !vnc | Dantonic
[10:16] <david_j_r> Report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/417757
[10:16] <david_j_r> Status in karmic-updates: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/karmic-updates
[10:17] <om26er> is there any new version of xfce under development?
[10:18] <Dantonic> mattcen, thank you
[10:18] <Dantonic> that clears it up a little
[10:19] <ardchoille> om26er: you'd get a better answer in the xfce channel
[10:19] <Dantonic> mattcen, so before doing that, I would have the vnc server already setup on that remote desktop, and setup to accept remote connections, not just local ones?
[10:19] <Dantonic> mattcen, and following the command, I can just run Vinagre for example and connect to the remote desktop?
[10:20] <om26er> ardchoille: thanx
[10:20] <Cale> I'm on Karmic, and X has just grown to 761864K. pmap -d shows a 696860K chunk of anonymous memory. Closing applications doesn't seem to influence it. Any ideas about what I might do to help track down what's going on would be appreciated.
[10:21] <Cale> I could just restart X, but it'd be nice to get some idea about what's causing the memory leak.
[10:23] <chilli0> Hi, Can you help me with my sd card slot its not working ( Lenovo ideapad Y530
[10:24] <nibbler> since i updated to 9.10 in some networks it takes AGES for firefox to resolve domain names, while it still takes no time if i do it in the shell... is there a fix for that?
[10:24] <_agn_> is there a way to change the default start directory for gnome-terminal
[10:24] <daysaver> hi
[10:24] <nibbler> chilli0, do you see it in lsusb?
[10:24] <_agn_> it start in / dir now
[10:24] <kierek> change your blowser to chromium ;)
[10:24] <_agn_> :|
[10:24] <kierek> browser*
[10:24] <ganjanaut> XD
[10:25] <om26er> nibbler: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[10:25] <nibbler> kierek, i dont think so...
[10:25] <david_j_r> @nibbler - that relates to my question about ubuntu-bug #417757 (http://bit.ly/4JGvG0)... =/
[10:26] <nibbler> om26er, i dont want chromeium
[10:26] <om26er> nibbler: ok
[10:26] <nibbler> david_j_r, ah, that sounds helpful! thanks
[10:26] <chilli0> nibbler: Not sure what im looking for http://pastebin.com/m59dcf6e1   ane grep
[10:26] <m1dlg> I've been trying to get a wine program to see a USB serial port and following instructions to do this has failed however one of those instructions is to type "dmsg" in terminal and I have done this and the last message is " possible SYN flooding on port 55558. Sending cookies." port 55558 is currently used by bittorrent in wine, and I have been having router problems lately. Could there be a problem with bittorent crashing my router?
[10:27] <chilli0> nibbler: lspci = http://pastebin.com/m446dae5
[10:27] <wut> it's possibly, m1dlg
[10:28] <nibbler> chilli0, so at least the device is there....
[10:28] <m1dlg> wut, What can I do, I have to restart my router every 4-8hours and it's a real pain, If this is the first clue to the cause then I might be able to fix it
[10:28] <nibbler> david_j_r, hmm, i dont have ipv6, not even lo
[10:28] <mickster04> g but otherwise things are good
[10:28] <mickster04> sorry
[10:29] <xeer> How do I uninstall a directory?
[10:29] <mickster04> samba isnt working!
[10:29] <chilli0> nibbler: So then how can i get it?
[10:29] <xeer> Could someone list the steps..?
[10:29] <om26er> xeer: what?
[10:29] <mickster04> what do you mean uninstall a directory?
[10:29] <erUSUL> xeer: uninstall a directory? remove it?
[10:29] <xeer> om26er: well, if something can be installed, it can be uninstalled right?
[10:29] <om26er> xeer: sure
[10:29] <xeer> (Reading database ... 133585 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:30] <xeer> so, my directories are "installed"
[10:30] <david_j_r> @nibbler - strange - there is a lot in the wifi-network forum about long lookups - do you have another browser to compare to? is this *only* firefox?
[10:30] <chiques> I screwed up my sound while trying to get my fax modem to work. Any good troubleshooting docs/
[10:30] <xeer> Or is there a channel for apt that I can ask this question in?
[10:30] <m1dlg> the reverse to 'installed' is deleted in that context i think
[10:30] <xeer> I'm assuming ubuntu is responsible for this message
[10:30] <nibbler> chilli0, what happens in dmesg when you put in a card?
[10:31] <om26er> xeer: its nothing ..
[10:31] <xeer> There must be a reason why they typed it like that
[10:31] <bleah> hy guys
[10:31] <om26er> xeer: ooohh
[10:31] <bleah> i have a problem
[10:32] <bleah> i can not make to work  my integrated microphone on skype
[10:32] <chilli0> nibbler: How do i test?
[10:32] <om26er> bleah: laptop?
[10:32] <bleah> yes
[10:32] <om26er> bleah: which
[10:32] <bleah> toshiba
[10:32] <bleah> on sound option
[10:32] <bleah> i have pulseaudio server local
[10:33] <jonz> [tell me if there's a better fit scripting/programming channelfor this?] I'd like to make (as much as possibly foreseeable) super-extensible super-standards-compliant address book. I have 300 addresses in Apple's address book (garbage software) and plan to never make such a mistake again. before I move it to a better format, i want to make sure the format I put all this effort into is going to be one I'll be able to  program may way in and out o
[10:33] <nibbler> david_j_r, w3m works like perfect. in general looking up works fine. just firefox...
[10:33] <om26er> bleah: try sound recorder does it record any sound
[10:33] <nibbler> chilli0, do dmesg, insert the card, do dmesg again
[10:33] <bleah> yes
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> dmesg| tail would be more ideal
[10:34] <chilli0> nibbler: There is 100+ lines
[10:34] <chilli0> 1000 *
[10:34] <david_j_r> @nibbler - just for the banter, it might be worth trying this http://shrt.st/aed even if no IPv6 ...
[10:35] <nibbler> chilli0, only the lines that were added after inserting the card. so dmesg > 1.txt, isert card, dmesg > 2.txt; diff 1.txt 2.txt
[10:35] <bleah> om26er any advice
[10:35] <nibbler> david_j_r, thanks
[10:35] <chilli0> kk
[10:35] <om26er> bleah: go to gstreamer-properties
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> chilli0:  its a log file. there will be changes at the end.
[10:35] <om26er> bleah: type gstreamer-properties in terminal
[10:36] <bleah> ok
[10:36] <jozefk> why so many people using ubuntu?
[10:36] <bleah> and select alsa ?
[10:36] <nibbler> david_j_r, perfect! thanks a lot
[10:36] <blueglasses> because its good
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  because it works very well  for most people.
[10:36] <om26er> bleah: try it
[10:36] <nibbler> chilli0, anyway, it will be just a few lines in the end...
[10:37] <david_j_r> @nibbler - glad it worked for you! Doesn't really help me, sadly!
[10:37] <jozefk> is it xubuntu good also?
[10:37] <chilli0> 1658a1659
[10:37] <chilli0> > [ 5789.729522] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[10:37] <jozefk> or ubuntu is better?
[10:37] <devtux87> sziasztok
[10:37] <nibbler> david_j_r, well, it looks like it worked... let see :) - but you still get ipv6 lookups??
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  xubuntu is ubuntu using xfce, instead of gnome. Try both see what you like,
[10:37] <psycho_oreos> jozefk, its a matter of taste
[10:37] <devtux87> sziasztok
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  i reccomend sticking with Ubuntu however
[10:37] <jozefk> szia
[10:37] <devtux87> szükségem lenne segítségre
[10:37] <Huck> hello guyssssss good morning maco =)
[10:37] <chilli0> nibbler: 1658a1659
[10:37] <chilli0> > [ 5789.729522] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[10:37] <devtux87> elakadtam nem tudok mit csinálni a régebbi gépemmel
[10:37] <om26er> devtux87: english only
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> !hu | devtux87
[10:38] <david_j_r> @nibbler - all browsing for me in  9.10 was so slow (any browswer) that I went back to 9.04.
[10:38] <devtux87> oh tansk
[10:38] <devtux87> so
[10:38] <devtux87> i have a problem
[10:38] <devtux87> a big ubuntu problem
[10:38] <om26er> !problem | devtux87
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> devtux87:  state the actual problem.
[10:38] <david_j_r> But other network things, not a problem (e.g., streaming music in audio player)
[10:38] <nibbler> david_j_r, sadly going back is a lot more work than going there....
[10:38] <jozefk> Dr_Willis, why ubuntu? is it better? works differently?
[10:38] <Huck> how can i sort by popoularity the software in Ubuntu software center?
[10:38] <devtux87> i have a pc wich have SMC WPCI 54 mbps wifi card and i cant boot
[10:39] <devtux87> dekstop installer freeze, alternate installer freeze in the first start
[10:39] <devtux87> what can i do?
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, tried removing the wireless card and see if it installs?
[10:39] <david_j_r> @nibbler - I first ran Ubuntu *just* as 9.10 was released, and 9.04 live disk worked fine for me. Saw enough of 9.10 to know I would like to upgrade permanently - but not until this network issue is definitively fixed!
[10:39] <inertial> is there a way to set the umask for a particular directory, or for a whole (ext3) drive?
[10:39] <devtux87> yes it will install
[10:39] <bleah> yes its working
[10:40] <bleah> thnx for help
[10:40] <om26er> bleah: great
[10:40] <devtux87> if i remove its all right but i have no internet
[10:40] <jozefk> will it always be free or people plan to do something like novel did with SuSE?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  it works for their needs.. try it out, try others if you dont like ubuntu.  its all a matter of whats imporntant to you
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  and your specific needs
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, so I'll install without the card and install the card afterwards
[10:40] <nibbler> chilli0, basically if you try to google for help, google for R5C822
[10:40] <Nalleman_> how can i mount a remote, shared folder under /home?
[10:40] <jozefk> for me important is to have a stable system
[10:40] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: if i do that then the first start with this cars is freeze
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, is the card currently inserted?
[10:40] <pomp1> Hi everyone, ﻿﻿I cannot realize why launching the command xmodmap -e 'keycode 32 = o O omacron Omacron oslash Oslash' I don't have, pressing AltGr+o an ō (o whith macron) in response, anybody can help?
[10:40] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: in in xp working well
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  stick with the UBUNTU LTS releases then.
[10:41] <jozefk> and I'm just wandering if ubuntu is better than xubuntu or kubuntu
[10:41] <chilli0> nibbler: So u cant help?
[10:41] <jozefk> LTS? what's that?
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, I suspect it maybe is an issue with the chipset but is the card currently plugged in?
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  the desktop is the only differance in the  ubuntu variants you mentioned.
[10:41] <om26er> !lts | jozefk
[10:41] <nibbler> chilli0, dont know, what is the dmesg thing?
[10:41] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: if i plug this card after the first start is freeze, if it isnt in the pci bus, there is no error
[10:42] <chilli0>  nibbler: 1658a1659
[10:42] <chilli0>  > [ 5789.729522] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[10:42] <jozefk> only desktop. well that's great. if that's the only difference
[10:42] <inertial> essentially I want to be able to create files in one directory that will automatically be readable/writeable by other users, but in most directories to have the permissions only set for me to rwx
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, yeah I can understand but what I'm trying to ask is that do you currently have the wireless card inserted into the computer now? or into any computer now?
[10:42] <jozefk> LTS sounds like outdated software
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  and if you wanted you can install all 3 of the desktops you mentioned onto a ubuntu system, and select what one to use from the Login screen.
[10:43] <nibbler> chilli0, how big is the sd?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  you said you wanted STABLE  not 'cutting edge versions'
[10:43] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: in that computer is correctly inserted cos if i boot in windows xp it works
[10:43] <chilli0> nibbler: 2gig
[10:43] <devtux87> but ubuntu freeze only
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, in other words you are using xp now to chat?
[10:43] <nibbler> chilli0, you have any smaller one?
[10:43] <jozefk> haha that's right
[10:43] <nibbler> chilli0, at least you have the errormessagenow...
[10:43] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: no im useing a laptop with 9.10 Desktop
[10:43] <devtux87> :)
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, and the desktop is turned on?
[10:44] <chilli0> nibbler: this is the only one
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> wait
[10:44] <jozefk> but that kind of stability I can find in other distros as well. like debian or slackware for example
[10:44] <jozefk> isnt' it?
[10:44] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: the problem is my other pc wich is not a laptop
[10:44] <nibbler> chilli0, do you know for sure that this card is ok?
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, so desktop is dual boot and laptop is xp, but you're using laptop to chat right?
[10:44] <nibbler> chilli0, can be that this size is not supported, if the laptop is older...
[10:45] <Guest91713> Greetings everyone! I just got my Compaq Mini Netbook w/ Netbook Remix (I'm on my laptop now however). How do I switch between UNR and standard Gnome Desktop environments on my netbook?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> jozefk:  have you ever actually tried slackware? its.. odd in ways
[10:45] <chilli0> nibbler: Yeh it works and the lappy is 1year old
[10:45]  * Guest91713 is Fizix btw
[10:45] <om26er> Guest91713: i think desktop switcher is now obsolete
[10:45] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: no, the other regular pc is dual boot now, and im useing my laptop with 9.10 dekstop edition with XChat to look for help.
[10:46] <jozefk> i used forst SuSE many years ago, then windows, then Debian, and last 1 year Arch Linux
[10:46] <om26er> Fizix: although you can remove netbook laucnher and maximus and then reboot
[10:46] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: in the laptop there is ubuntu only
[10:46] <jozefk> right now I'm on PC-BSD but don't have drivers for my soundcard so I'll remove it
[10:46] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, ok, and the pc with the issue is not in use right? if so I'd try turn the machine off, unplug the wireless card out and post me the info of FCC ID:
[10:46] <erUSUL> inertial: use a directory with sig set so all files created within inherits the directory permissions. for the rest use  a 0077 umask
[10:46] <om26er> Fizix: i do this: sudo apt-get purge netbook-launcher maximus && sudo reboot and then !resetpanels
[10:47] <om26er> !resetpanel | Fizix
[10:47] <chilli0> nibbler: Yeh it works and the lappy is 1year old
[10:47] <Fizix> Oh I want to keep Ubuntu Netbook Remix, but I was wondering if there was a way to use either or, like selecting Desktop Environments on the login between GNOME, XFCE and KDE etc.
[10:47] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: ffc id? what is it?
[10:48] <an0nmat1r> help needed to convert avi to vcd
[10:48] <om26er> Fizix: in the next ubuntu release there will be a netbook session
[10:48] <m1dlg> if I have just edited my /etc/modules file, do I need to reboot or logout/in to see changes?
[10:48] <om26er> Fizix: but not now
[10:48] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, fcc id, its an identification number that most wireless (and sometimes) other companies need to label with their device, its a compliance tag for device using radio waves
[10:48] <erUSUL> !info arista | an0nmat1r
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> Fizix:  you can install the other desktops. but some times they can cause conflicts with  the 'tweaks' the netbook  remix desktop does.
[10:48] <q0_0p> an0nmat1r, mencoder
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, it would be handy for me to have the number so I can check up to see what sort of chipset is lying inside the card
[10:49] <nibbler> chilli0, try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/327130
[10:49] <q0_0p> MenZa, winff
[10:49] <q0_0p> an0nmat1r, winff
[10:49] <erUSUL> an0nmat1r: sorry arista dos not have a preset for VCD just checked ...
[10:49] <erUSUL> an0nmat1r: use winff then
[10:50] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: Its SMC Ez Connect G 802.11g Wireless PCI Card
[10:50] <q0_0p> an0nmat1r, u could use devede?
[10:50] <baccenfutter> hi folks... am I assuming correctly, that if I have OpenSSH in my ufw app list, ssh connection should work? or must I set additionalö port rules?
[10:50] <pomp1> I made some progress in the xmodmap prblem. I realized that with the previos command hi have back the folllowing error message:
[10:50] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: with RTL 818SL
[10:51] <an0nmat1r> thankx all i will check and let u know
[10:51] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, yeah but that's not useful because that does not specifically say the chipset sitting on the card.. and there's no smc chipset manufacturer
[10:51] <Fizix> om26er and Dr_Willis, thank you for the inputs. I'll leave the multiple DE's on the next build I suppose.
[10:51] <pomp1> unable to open file 'keycode 32 = o O a Omacron oslash Oslash' for reading xmodmap:  2 errors encountered, aborting.
[10:51] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, 818SL?
[10:51] <devtux87> psycho_oreos Yes
[10:51] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, doesn't help
[10:51] <psycho_oreos> 818x
[10:51] <_W_> Is there a way to install the regular (non-livecd) ubuntu on a bootable USB drive from windows, without any other boot media?
[10:51] <pomp1> How can I solve that? kaycode is not a file...
[10:52] <psycho_oreos> there's at least 5 different chipsets under realtek rtl818x iirc
[10:52] <mattcen> Dantonic: Sorry, got distracted. You will only need the server to accept local connections, because of the way SSH tunnels the connection, the server thinks it's local. You should be able to connect with Vinagre to 'localhost' on the default port (5900) with no problems.
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Fizix:  i just test them out with live cd's these days. I tend tojust stick to gnome. :)
[10:52] <difedepe> Hi, can you help me on re-install my audio board?
[10:52] <devtux87> psycho_oreos if it helps u, in the other ubuntu, i can use the ubuntu only if i blacklist r8187 r818x r8169 rtl8180 and use ndiswrapper to make it working
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> _W_:  unetbootin can take a ubuntu iso file and make a bootable flash drive from it. Pendrivelinux.com also has guides for doing it other ways
[10:52] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, but the question is why? and if that's the case, can't you do the same once ubuntu is installed?
[10:53] <utabak> hi all, I am using a 19 inch monitor with my hp6710b laptop to extend my desktop with xrandr, however from time to time the laptop screen dims, part on the external monitor is not affected, anyone experienced similar problem?
[10:53] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: in karmic it doesnt work
[10:53] <Fizix> Dr_Willis, I too stick to Gnome. I just want to switch between the desktop clutter of Netbook Remix and the standard Gnome... but they're all Gnome
[10:53] <Dantonic> mattcen, thank you I'll give that a shot.  I've just encountered a strange problem, my "remote" desktop will not acept any ssh connections.  I've been sshing to it all day now all of a sudden it stopped working
[10:53] <_W_> Dr_Willis, I've tried both - the ubuntu iso cannot install to the flash drive if it boots from it (can't commit partition changes, it says, even if I don't change partitions), and the pendrivelinux guides seems to all be about installing the livecd version, which isn't what I want
[10:53] <Dantonic> trying to figure out what's wrong
[10:53] <gidna> Hi
[10:53] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, you mean installing karmic and then blacklisting literally all of the realtek drivers and to use ndiswrapper won't work?
[10:53] <utabak> I upgraded to karmic before that was not a problem
[10:53] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: if i use recovery i cant catch a terminal cos of the freeze
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> ahh
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Fizix:  i cant stand the Netbook Desktop interface ;) dosent work well with my 2 wide screen monitors.  Theres also the 'gnome-shell' thats  a work in progress. yet another netbook interface
[10:54] <gidna> when I try to connect to my wireless network I receive the message insert the password for default keyring what have I to do?
[10:54] <EddieLee> Hello guys, 1 question:I want to downgrade from Karmic to Jaunty, ive read around and found that its a painfull process specially for us ppl with little Linux/ubuntu experience, i just want to confirm this, should i just do a clean install from my ubuntu 9.04 cd?
[10:54] <_W_> I would like to avoid modifying my Windows drive, and just install ubuntu directly to the usb drive, so that when I change boot options in the bios, I get completely separate OS', without any disk interaction at all
[10:54] <difedepe> HOW CAN I INSTALL MY AUDIO DRIVER?
[10:55] <erUSUL> !dwongrade | EddieLee
[10:55] <erUSUL> !caps | difedepe
[10:55] <l43a2> HOW CAN I USE CAPS ALOT TO ANNOY PEOPLE ?
[10:55] <l43a2> wow :|
[10:55] <fire_man> gidna, you should know your wep key
[10:55] <erUSUL> !downgrade | EddieLee
[10:55] <Fizix> Dr_Willis I'm enjoying it on my 10.1" netbook screen, but I do prefer the standard UI on my laptop
[10:55] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, well there's one way to fix this, I think the issue is to relocate the realtek drivers and to depmod -ae
[10:55] <gidna> fire_man : after enetering the wep key it asks me that
[10:55] <difedepe> ubottu, ok ok sorry
[10:55] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, you'll have to do it before you plug the device back in
[10:56] <EddieLee> so its better to do a clean 9.04 install then? basically i just install 9.04 over Karmic, from my cd, right?
[10:56] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: :O its not good :S
[10:56] <erUSUL> gidna: your own password should work
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> 9.04 != karmic
[10:56] <inertial> hmm so basically there is no way to set a umask for a particular directory in linux at all....
[10:56] <xeer> Having an xserver issue. X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[10:56] <xeer> This is what is outputted from glxinfo or any gl application
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> EddieLee:  i tend to do cleaninstalls.. the installer can format the old system (loseing all data) or keep a seperate /home partition
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, or there is probably another way, get compat-wireless and give that a run
[10:56] <erUSUL> inertial: i have already told you how
[10:56] <gidna> it doesn't...
[10:56] <fire_man> gidna, you should be sure of your key look for it behind your rooter
[10:56] <xeer> I've also ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, you'll still need the card to be unplugged anyway
[10:57] <erUSUL> inertial: 11:46 < erUSUL> inertial: use a directory with sig set so all files created within inherits the directory permissions. [ ... ]
[10:57] <inertial> erUSUL: sorry my client didn't flag that message..
[10:57] <xeer> Note, I am using an ATI card with fglrx drivers
[10:57] <devtux87> ok i will do it, but i need to go now... bye all
[10:58] <devtux87> psycho_oreos: thx i will try in the afternoon but i have to go to work. :) Bye
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, there's also rtl8187 driver to blacklist if that helps
[10:58] <inertial> erUSUL: what is sig?
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> devtux87, alright cya
[10:58] <EddieLee> well i already backedup all my data, my only concern now is if ill get a big list of kernel versions to choose at startup (Karmics and Jauntys)
[10:58] <erUSUL> inertial: chmod g+s directory/
[10:58] <baccenfutter> hi folks... am I assuming correctly, that if I have OpenSSH in my ufw app list, ssh connection should work? or must I set additional port rules?
[10:59] <erUSUL> EddieLee: remove the packages of the kernels you do not use
[10:59] <erUSUL> EddieLee: make sure you have linux-image installed
[10:59] <xeer> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[10:59] <EddieLee> alright, yeah ive read about that, seems simple enough, thanks a lot for your time guys :) im off to do a clean install, ciao.
[11:00] <david_j_r> @EddieLee - I first used Ubuntu with 9.04 live disk and liked it, but waited a week for 9.10 release. The networking issues on 9.10 were not resolved, and it was unusable for me, so I just clean installed 9.04 from the live disk, since I had no real investment in my 9.10 setup. Am still using 9.04 a couple months later... FWIW!
[11:00] <EddieLee> yeah, i like Karmic and all but it makes my mouse randomly erratic
[11:00] <drtka> I've tried ti install pcmcia wireless card with ndiswrapper, but it says, that device is not ready
[11:00] <EddieLee> and i have random freezing issues too
[11:00] <sabgenton> do the new karmic netbook have gnome installed
[11:01] <sabgenton> I couldn't find it
[11:01] <ilya> hello guys. Please tell me . i have little trouble in wicd... My router not allow ping self. but wicd in connecting procces try ping my router. how i can turn off check ping in wicd? sry bad eng.
[11:01] <xeer> Having a opengl issue. X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation). I've also ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Note, I am using an ATI card with fglrx drivers .. "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[11:01] <sabgenton> the was a button to switch between netbook mode and gnome in 904
[11:02] <sabgenton> can't see such a button in 910
[11:02] <sabgenton> does 910 netbook come with gnome?
[11:02] <erUSUL> xeer: which ati card ? maybe you have to use the free readeon drivers ?
[11:02] <inertial> erUSUL: didn't work.. new files still have permissions basd on my umask
[11:03] <drtka> I've tried ti install pcmcia wireless card with ndiswrapper, but it says, that device is not ready. pls help me
[11:03] <erUSUL> inertial: what are the permissions of the directory ?
[11:03] <_W_> To be very specific; I have no CD, I have a single filled hardrive with windows, I have a single empty bootable USB drive, and I would like somehow to get a normal non-live-cd install of ubuntu onto the USB drive, which I can't do if I use the USB drive as install media. Is there a way to use files in windows as boot media and install directly to the USB drive without booting from it?
[11:03] <xeer> erUSUL: 1600
[11:03] <nibbler>  /lastlog chilli0
[11:03] <inertial> erUSL: drwxrws---
[11:03] <inertial> erUSUL: drwxrws---
[11:03] <nibbler> chilli0, how are things?
[11:04] <_W_> s/boot media/install media
[11:04] <bleah> guys how can i connect to a pc whit windows ( remote desktop )
[11:04] <chilli0> nibbler: Not workn
[11:05] <nibbler> chilli0, did you apply the bugfix from launchpad and reload the module/restart the laptop?
[11:05] <lesshaste> is there an UNR channel? (Ubuntu netbook remix)
[11:05] <chilli0> nibbler: ?
[11:05] <nibbler>  <nibbler> chilli0, try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/327130
[11:05] <gidna> I receive " enter password for default keyring to unlock" How can I change this password? I don't remember it anymore..
[11:06] <ilya> sorry but i repeat my question. if any know how please answer me :(  "hello guys. Please tell me . i have little trouble in wicd... My router not allow ping self. but wicd in connecting procces try ping my router. how i can turn off check ping in wicd? sry bad eng."
[11:06] <nibbler> gidna, i'm not sure, but i guess if you forget this password, the saved keys are gone...
[11:06] <aruna> hi... Once i install kubuntu  i cant login into my wifi... but i can access internet in ubuntu. please help.
[11:06] <inertial> erUSUL: setting setgid no a directory makes new files and subdirs to inherit the group id... but not the permissions themselves
[11:07] <nibbler> ilya, i'd try to reconfigure my router to be pingable. non-pingable network devices are the most stupid thing ever
[11:07] <gidna> How can I remove the keyring and connect just giving it the wep Key?
[11:07] <erUSUL> inertial: ok; my mistake ...
[11:08] <inertial> erUSUL: it's ok, thanks for helping... how exactly setgid works always confused me and it forced me to look it up...
[11:08] <aruna> Can anyone help me why i cant access wifi through Kubuntu !?
[11:08] <chilli0> nibbler:  Im not sure what to do
[11:08] <chilli0> nibbler: sudo gedit /modprobe.d/options   ??
[11:08] <erUSUL> !gksudo
[11:09] <aruna> Anyone help me ?
[11:09] <erUSUL> !details | aruna also you can aditionaly ask in #kubuntu
[11:10] <chilli0> brb restarting
[11:10] <aruna> Thank you.
[11:10] <nibbler> chilli0, good luck
[11:11] <ilya> nibbler i see.  tnx u.   i cant set my router pingable... and i find in source code wicd this function and i change her. but i cant re compile wicd :(
[11:12] <nibbler> ilya, and you want/need wicd i assume?
[11:13] <aruna> I have a problem in accessing Wifi in my newly installed kubuntu over my ubuntu.. i can access internet on ubuntu but when i install kubuntu i am unable to access internet. can any one help me.
[11:13] <ilya> aruna use wicd
[11:14] <Dantonic> hi, trying to ssh remotely, getting a Warning about a possible attack, and "Host key verification failed."
[11:14] <Dantonic> what can I do?
[11:15] <aruna> ilya, wucd in kubuntu ?
[11:15] <chilli0> nibbler: Not work
[11:15] <nibbler> chilli0, :(
[11:16] <drtka> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 and I have problem with installing wireless card driver with ndiswrapper. Installation was successful, but device is not ready. What can I do with this?
[11:16] <utabak> I am using an external monitor with my laptop with xrandr 1.3, but the problem is that the laptop screem dims from time to time and it is really annoying on carmic, any ideas
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[11:20] <chilli0> Does any one know a fix for : mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[11:20] <mirek> fak you beach!!
[11:21] <ilya> aruna yep wicd in kubuntu...    go to console and  write .    sudo apt-get install wicd
[11:21] <fahadsadah> Any ops around?
[11:24] <chilli0> Mmm
[11:24] <Dantonic> mattcen, so regarding the command "ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 joe@laptop" the local host would be my desktops global ip not local ip as in 192.168.1.xxx right?
[11:24] <Roypa> join palermo
[11:24] <Roypa> i'm sorry where the list channel?
[11:25] <CyL> Hi, on my gdm login screen, the options bar that is on the bottom edge of the screen doesn't fit the screen... how could I change that?
[11:25] <fahadsadah> CyL: Are you sure it doesn't fit your screen?
[11:25] <fahadsadah> Try pressing the "auto" button
[11:26] <CyL> fahadsadah: auton button on the option bar?
[11:26] <fahadsadah> On the screen.
[11:26] <CyL> fahadsadah: let me try
[11:26] <fahadsadah> Depending on your screen, it may be buried in an OSD menu
[11:26] <chilli0> Does any one know a fix for : mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[11:26] <fahadsadah> !repeat | chilli0
[11:28] <jipsy> hi...i dont know how to install my intel graphic driver in my ubuntu...can anyone help?
[11:29] <StarLionIsaac> I have an odd problem... since this morning, my GTK apps and menus aren't paying attention to the GTK theme, and are using the bog-standard colors/controls for root instead, even though they're not running as root
[11:29] <CyL> fahadsadah: I'm with the default gdm screen which is installed with ubuntu 9.10... sorry about my next question, but ehat does the auto button looks, like... it doesn't seem to have on on my options bar
[11:32] <louis> ??
[11:32] <StarLionIsaac> I have an odd problem... since this morning, my GTK apps and menus aren't paying attention to the GTK theme, and are using the bog-standard colors/controls for root instead, even though they're not running as root, and now icons in nautilus are doing the same
[11:32] <CyL> root: it is not a good idea to log in as root buddy...
[11:32] <Hetor`> Does anyone have a clue how to run plasma in gnome? I've tried simply running the "plasma" command but it crashes. It works in KDE session though.
[11:33] <Guest88716> Guys, I have a very baffling problem. Even though I have most certainly installed a certain rpm package, I am still told, by `rpm', that it isn't installed when invoking the '-ql' switch.
[11:33] <CyL> Hetor`: Is it plasma a qt application?
[11:33] <louis> 有说中文的吗？
[11:33] <Hetor`> Yeah
[11:33] <Guest88716> Any insights as to the problem I have is appreciated.
[11:34] <Hetor`> CyL: plasma is the core of kde desktop :p
[11:34] <StarLionIsaac> Guest88716: are you actually using Ubuntu? Ubuntu uses .deb packages, not rpm ones
[11:34] <CyL> Hetor`: Maybe you should install the qt frameqork for it to work with gnome, which is gtk?
[11:34] <linxeh> no he's not
[11:34] <linxeh> he's on fedora core 12
[11:34] <linxeh> Guest88716: go to #fedora
[11:35] <Hetor`> CyL: package name?
[11:35] <CyL> Hetor`: just a second
[11:35] <Hetor`> ok
[11:35] <mgv2> why does the links of sun java apear after uninstallation?
[11:35] <Guest88716> linxeh, I feel like a ghost in there. I have been getting no responses.
[11:36] <linxeh> Guest88716: ubuntu doesnt use rpm, and its packages are often quite different (with things in different places)
[11:36] <StarLionIsaac> now, does anyone know why gtk apps and menus would suddenly decide to ignore the user-chosen GTK controls, colors and icons, and use the ones that apps use when running as root?
[11:36] <aeon-ltd> most rpm packages have been ported to .deb
[11:36] <epinky> Guest88716: are you using UBUNTU ?
[11:36] <linxeh> no, he's using fedora 12 as I said
[11:37] <StarLionIsaac> Guest88716: Try asking your question on Linuxquestions.org, if the Fedora channel isn't helping
[11:37] <mataks> how to install intel graphic card in my ubuntu?
[11:37] <epinky> Guest88716: rpm -ivh <package-name>
[11:37] <linxeh> aeon-ltd: why would you "port" an rpm to a deb? and no, there are huge amounts of (mainly commercial) software that hasnt
[11:37] <Guest88716> No, I am not, epinky. It seems I have made the false assumption that the same package format is used in Ubuntu. Sorry for unnecessary digression, guys. I appreciate your attempts at helping.
[11:39] <aeon-ltd> linxeh: personally i see its pointless to have .deb & .rpm if you really wanted a package people should just extract ./configure make make install
[11:39] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: alien usually doesn't do too bad a job at converting other kinds of packages to .deb for me, but I don't usually use it for much
[11:40] <aeon-ltd> linxeh: pre-compiled .deb and .rpm packages are to make win users feel more comfortable in ubuntu and fedora e.t.c
[11:40] <Dantonic> mattcen, I'm not sure I am doing it right... is it possible to test this via local network? for example can I enter the local ips from my router?
[11:40] <jadakren> cough apt-oncd cough
[11:40] <CyL> Hetor`: sorry buffy, I did not found it... may google would helo you more than I have...
[11:40] <linxeh> aeon-ltd: yeah, I can see all those commercial software vendors lapping it up
[11:40] <Dantonic> to tunnel with ssh?
[11:41] <jadakren> sorry seems the dust from aeons mouth blew in my direction
[11:41] <linxeh> aeon-ltd: and no, precompiled packages are there because its faster. there are few variations in core hardware, it doesnt make sense to make each user compile their own copy, it's just a waste of cpu time, user time, and power
[11:43] <aeon-ltd> linxeh: i guess. but i mean if people want to try the 'latest and greatest' they shouldn't wait for canonical and ubuntu to test and brand, devs already do some testing
[11:43] <linxeh> indeed
[11:43] <linxeh> but building from source is normally not that simple anyway
[11:43] <linxeh> especially when you get dependency hell
[11:44] <linxeh> it will be beyond most peopel that want to try the latest and greatest, as they likely arent software/linux experts
[11:44] <linxeh> this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic anyway :)
[11:45] <aeon-ltd> linxeh: yeah, some people are afraid of command line still (*shivers*) but have you noticed how long it takes for a firefox release to be branded(soz for posting unrelated topics here)
[11:45] <CyL> Hi, on my gdm login screen, the options bar that is on the bottom edge of the screen doesn't fit the screen... how could I change that?
[11:45] <alabd> a java applet in a page can not be loaded with firefox , opera , epiphany with jre of sun , openjdk in ubuntu , but it can be loaded in vista and debian 5 , what is problem do you think ?
[11:46] <aeon-ltd> alabd: is the addon properly enable in firefox
[11:46] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: There's a way around that - add the ubuntu mozilla repository from Ubuntu tweak, and you get daily builds. They're sometimes a tad buggy, at least for me
[11:46] <aeon-ltd> *enabled
[11:46] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: you mean shiretoko(unbranded firefox)
[11:47] <linxeh> aeon-ltd: yeah - maybe you should become part of the firefox packaging team :)
[11:47] <erUSUL> alabd: did you installed sun-java6-plugin ?
[11:47] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: that's just the name used for it before they release it as firefox, the beta branding, if you prefer
[11:47] <erUSUL> !ff35
[11:47] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: the actual branding of the browser doesn't really matter much
[11:47] <aeon-ltd> linxeh: they probably wouldn't aprove of my un-extensive testing
[11:48] <jonz> Hi, I've gone to a bit of a tangent and started reading about how to recompile linux. the example text is explaining good practice with /usr/src/linux link (should be a link to the latest version folder). There is not alias like this in ubuntu's install of /usr/src/ (as far as I'm seeing). This would be fine, excpet - later in the instructions, after some clean-up, it suggests you go ahead and make a new linnk based on the versino folder you're 
[11:48] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: but thats what i find ridicolous about ubuntu branding firefox then releasing instead of just not branding and saving time
[11:48] <alabd> erUSUL: aeon-ltd all plugind are ok
[11:48] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: hence the repository that gives you the unbranded releases
[11:49] <aruna> Hi.. Its working !!!!
[11:49] <Hetor`> lol, got plasma working. A reboot solved the problem
[11:49] <erUSUL> !yay | aruna
[11:49] <aruna> i just deleted the current configuring and recreated new connection.. and it worked !!!!!
[11:50] <StarLionIsaac> now, does anyone know why gtk apps and menus would suddenly decide to ignore the user-chosen GTK controls, colors and icons, and use the ones that apps use when running as root instead?
[11:50] <linxeh> aeon-ltd: heh :-)
[11:50] <aruna> Thank you to all who helped :)
[11:51] <edulacomadreja> hey people! how to sync evolution with a sonyericcson w715?
[11:51] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: you have to run gnome-appearence-manager as root or edit the root users gtkrc.mine
[11:51] <aruna> now a general question.  if i need to write program in ubuntu or kubuntu..  what language i need to use ?
[11:52] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: I'm not trying to modify root's appearance settings - my non-root GTK apps have adopted a theme like root's, regardless of what I choose in the appearance manager even as not-root
[11:52] <edulacomadreja> aruna: i'll suggest c++
[11:52] <magnetron> how do i re-generate the thumbnails for movies in nautilus?
[11:52] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: check your gtkrc-2.0 it may have been overwritten by another app
[11:52] <aruna> hmmmm  for windows programmin
[11:52] <aruna> i mean XWindows programming ?
[11:53] <edulacomadreja> aruna: give QT a try!
[11:53] <lstarnes> aruna: there are bindings for X and various toolkits like GTK and QT in several languages
[11:53] <GoldZee> kire: hi
[11:53] <Cody> oi
[11:53] <GoldZee> kira: hi
[11:53] <Cody> bom
[11:53] <Cody> ??
[11:53] <lstarnes> aruna: C is the most popular for X and GTK, while C++ is most popular for QT
[11:53] <edulacomadreja> so, nobody has ever synced a sonyericcson w715 yet?
[11:54] <Cody> i have this celular
[11:54] <aruna> hmmm thank you ;)
[11:54] <edulacomadreja> Cody: so? did you use opensync or something like that?
[11:54] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: no, it doesn't show anything different, it shows the settings I've chosen instead, nothing else
[11:55] <lstarnes> aruna: python is very popular among modern programmers
[11:55] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: gnome-appearence-manager may have crashed, i used to have a similar bug
[11:55] <GoldZee> is this the offical ubuntu chat?
[11:55] <aeon-ltd> yes
[11:55] <user_> plaza_3@
[11:55] <lstarnes> GoldZee: it is the official support channel for ubuntu
[11:56] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: I don't think so, the only time it's ever closed unexpectedly was when I tried to install a theme download that was corrupt
[11:56] <GoldZee> istarnes: ok thanks
[11:56] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: crap question, but are you logged in as your user?
[11:57] <user_> fffff
[11:57] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: Yes, I'm quite sure of that, there's only one user on the system
[11:57] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: also I think you mean gnome-appearance-properties, not -manager, as trying to run -manager from the terminal says it doesn't exist
[11:57] <AnirbanHazra>  why www.GalaxyMu.net resolves to my VPS ip even though I don't hav any relation with it.
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: have you edited the gtkrc of the theme because improper coding can cause a roll back to the default theme
[11:58] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: nope, the theme is unchanged shiki-human, direct from the shiki-colors repository, no changes made
[11:59] <GoldZee> kire : hi
[11:59] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: how old is your copy?
[11:59] <solexious> On ubuntu, does your mother board need to be sli to run 2 graphics cards separatly?
[11:59] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: good question. But apt-get upgrade then update shows no updates for it, so I assume it's the latest verson of it
[12:00] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: do other themes work fine?
[12:00] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: no themes work at all - no matter what GTK controls, colors, or Icons I choose, it ignores it and uses the root-like theme instead
[12:00] <intracable> hello is this ubintu?
[12:01] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: I managed to have some small effect on Nautilus by using GTK-ChTheme, but that was minimal
[12:01] <GoldZee> Has anyone heard of Minbuntu?
[12:01] <Dextorion> solexious: your hardware has to support whatever function you want to do. Doesnt have to do with your operating system
[12:01] <intracable> where is ubuntu?
[12:01] <intracable> where is ubuntu?
[12:01] <CyL> How do I change my gdm login screen theme?
[12:01] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: have you properly installed gtk-enigines?
[12:01] <GoldZee> Has anyone heard of minbuntu?
[12:02] <lstarnes> intracable: this is the channel for ubuntu support
[12:02] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: that was my first thought, I reinstalled each of them, just to be certain, and there's been no change from that either
[12:02] <GoldZee> Or does anyone have a fix for chrome 9?
[12:02] <AnirbanHazra>  A bad guy has pointed his domain name to my VPS ip .. and it is eating up my BW. How to block it. I am on Hardy.
[12:02] <epinky> !anyone | GoldZee
[12:02] <AzmoRain> fuck
[12:02] <startdersdgs> ok so i have ubuntu 11.06
[12:02] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: after rebooting as well, to check. I did each separatly
[12:02] <mrqismrx> Hi, how can I assign compiz effects such as expo to my brightside corners? For instance, If I push Super + E I go into expo mode. so I went into brightside and choosed custom command and wrote "<Super>e" and choosed a corner but nothing happends.
[12:02] <startdersdgs> and everytime i boot
[12:02] <Dantonic> if I've created an SSH tunnel for VNC can I remove it? does it stay active even after I log off my ssh session?
[12:02] <startdersdgs> the wallpaper changes to someting bad
[12:03] <startdersdgs> what sould i do?
[12:03] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: check the requirements for shiki-colors it may need a extra engine
[12:03] <CyL> startdersdgs: 11.6??
[12:03] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: it uses the same engine as human, I believe, and all the engines from the repositories are enabled already
[12:03] <fedora> CyL: no 11.8
[12:03] <GoldZee> Does anyone know of Minbuntu?
[12:03] <robin0800> StarLionIsaac: ubuntu is 9.10
[12:03] <GoldZee> Does anyone have a fix for Chrome 9 graphics card?
[12:03] <Guest16476> CyL: no 11.8
[12:04] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: try reinstalling gtk2
[12:04] <mrqismrx> haha no 9.10
[12:04] <Guest16476> no rally it says 11.9
[12:04] <Dextorion> then its not ubuntu
[12:04] <Guest16476> my  freind gave it to me
[12:05] <Guest16476> its says ubuntu 11.9
[12:05] <StarLionIsaac> Guest16476: I'd like to see his time machine then
[12:05] <Guest16476> on teh wallpaperxs
[12:05] <Dextorion> then its wrong. there is no ubuntu 11.9
[12:05] <lstarnes> Guest16476: there is no 11.9
[12:05] <Younder> it's 9.11, kindof unfortuate connotation
[12:05] <lstarnes> 9.10
[12:05] <robin0800> StarLionIsaac: it could b e a date?
[12:05] <lstarnes> there's no 9.11
[12:05] <CyL> Younder: 9,11 doesn exists either...
[12:05] <mrqismrx> is it okey to re-post a question that hasn't been answered?
[12:05] <lstarnes> mrqismrx: yes
[12:05] <mrqismrx> Hi, how can I assign compiz effects such as expo to my brightside corners? For instance, If I push Super + E I go into expo mode. so I went into brightside and choosed custom command and wrote "<Super>e" and choosed a corner but nothing happends.
[12:05] <Guest16476> wat linux am i running then?
[12:05] <aeon-ltd> 11.9 you mean fedora 12?
[12:06] <lstarnes> mrqismrx: but you should wait 15 minutes or so
[12:06] <Guest16476> how do i know
[12:06] <Dextorion> mrqismrx: in a sensible amount of time, sure
[12:06] <Younder> Cyl, too close, maybe that it why it ws released with so many bugs..
[12:06] <Guest16476> uname -a says 11.10
[12:06] <mrqismrx> ok. just did it now when you said yes. next time I will wait longer
[12:06] <StarLionIsaac> Guest16476: are you SURE you're using Ubuntu then?
[12:07] <lstarnes> Guest16476: what is the full output of uname -a?
[12:07] <Guest16476> uname -a says ubuntu 11.10
[12:07] <Guest16476> running on kernel 3.2.16
[12:07] <mrqismrx> do you guys know how to assign compiz "effects" such as expo to brightside corners?
[12:07] <epinky> I smell a troll called neoander
[12:07] <lstarnes> Guest16476: you are getting the numbers mixed up, I think
[12:07] <CyL> Younder: what was release with so many bugs?
[12:07] <lstarnes> Guest16476: or you're making things up
[12:07] <Younder> CyL: Karmic, gento was much more stable
[12:07] <Guest16476> i just need to know i to change the wallpapfers?
[12:07] <Guest16476> wallpapers*
[12:08] <StarLionIsaac> right click on desktop, select change desktop background
[12:08] <Guest16476> my ubuntu do not has right click
[12:08] <Guest16476> it has multitouch
[12:08] <StarLionIsaac> Preferances->Appearance
[12:08] <Dextorion> haha
[12:09] <CyL> Younder: I must disagree, although I do not run gentoo, I found Karmic Koala a great release...
[12:09] <Guest16476> do you multitouch too?
[12:09] <robin0800> Guest16476: if you want ubuntu I would download it and reinstall
[12:10] <Younder> CyL, well it breaks on many computers, perhaps you are one of the lucky ones?
[12:10] <mrqismrx> does ubuntu 32bit version only support 3gb ram?
[12:10] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: no change, it's still ignoring theme settings even after that
[12:10] <Guest16476> robin0800: so what my friend gave me then?
[12:10] <Guest16476> robin0800: he said its the future of os
[12:10] <Dextorion> mrqismrx: anything 32bit only supports around 3gb
[12:10] <Younder> CyL, It is mostly a problem with updates. A new install seems to work fine.
[12:11] <robin0800> Guest16476: no idea
[12:11] <Dextorion> Guest16476: He was right. It is the future os ;) he he he
[12:11] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: do you have 2 apps that change gtk settings?
[12:12] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: yes, the normal one, and the gtk-chtheme, which is also having no effect, but I've used them side by side before with no ill effects, changing the GTK control theme in both, and not having this problem
[12:12] <MyWay> hi, one question: i want that all files that i will create or copy to a directory will automatically get a chmod, how to do this?
[12:13] <alankila> MyWay: it's called umask
[12:13] <CyL> Younder: Well, I'm running a fresh install... maybe I'm on the lucky side then.. ;P
[12:13] <MyWay> thank you alankila, i'll search about it
[12:13] <StarLionIsaac> Guest16476: Go to the System menu, there should be an entry that reads 'About Ubuntu' or About (your OS name) that should tell you what distro, and what version you're really running then
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: unistall one of them (gtk-chtheme) then change settings in gnome-appearances then restart
[12:13] <alankila> mrqismrx: PAE capable kernels can support more memory, I guess, if the motherboard and cpu has that stuff. There's 4 GB modes also which might or might not work or be active on server kernel, I don't know this unfortunately.
[12:13] <robin0800> CyL: it works here too
[12:13] <mrqismrx> If I grab a window of a program or just a dir and just swings it around it feels a little laggish like not so smooth transition. the same if I like do expo and go into another desktop workspace. and I have had ubuntu before on a much older pc and I didn't have this then. is there any way to easy boost up performance?
[12:14] <mrqismrx> alankila : thanks
[12:14] <Walex> mrqismrx: depends on the graphics card driver and exactly which accel options are enabled. It can take a lot of experimentation to find a good combination, and some graphics card drivers are simply not good enough.
[12:15] <kesya> ce_azza
[12:15] <Walex> mrqismrx: first in any case check that you are using the native card driver and not the 'vesa' one or an 'fb' one.
[12:15] <kesya> ce_azza
[12:15] <mrqismrx> but my old laptop was a notepad t60 with dual core 1.66ghz 1gb ram and 64mb grapgic card. now i got a sony vaio 2.25ghz dual 2 core. 4gb ram (using 3..) and 256mb ATI radeeon mobility
[12:15] <Walex> mrqismrx: this assuming it is a drawing lag issue; your PC may be overall slow, check 'vmstat 1' to see if there is any large IO or CPU load.
[12:16] <robin0800> mrqismrx: also check hardware drivers
[12:16] <Guest16476> UBUNTU SUCKS
[12:16] <Guest16476> MANDRIVA RULZ
[12:16] <FloodBot4> Guest16476: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:16] <oCean_> Guest16476: stop that please
[12:16] <BlouBlou> !language | Guest16476
[12:16] <Walex> "256mb ATI radeeon mobility" that is likely to be running with 'vesa' and/or 'vesafb'
[12:16] <padi> jest tam ktoś !!
[12:17] <kernelLove> say hello to Gary McKinnon.
[12:17] <mrqismrx> walex : what does vmstar 1 do? its going now
[12:17] <oCean_> !pl | padi
[12:17] <dual> How can I prevent gdm or x server from starting after booting?
[12:17] <robin0800> Walex: it might be using aax and not eax
[12:17] <padi> ok
[12:17] <Walex> mrqismrx: it shows you how busy the system is (processes, memory, IO, CPU)
[12:18] <mrqismrx> it aint finished yet so =) or how long does it take?
[12:18] <Toast> Can anyone recommend some audio transcoding software please. I want to copy a tree of album rips from one directory to another, moving the album art, etc intact and re-encoding the audio from lightly compressed flac to heavily compressed flac. Soundconverter looked promising, but doesn't allow me to set the encoder up as I would like or traverse a tree of source directories. I would prefer not to have to script the commandline tools if I can avoid it!
[12:18] <mrqismrx> or does it just loops and checks for the same stuff again?
[12:18] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: oddly, still nothing, only the gnome-panel is using the selected gtk theme
[12:20] <Hawk1> any tips for making my ubuntu faster?
[12:20] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: if only part of the theme is being applied  this is most likely a bug
[12:20] <Tm_T> Hawk1: depends on how it is slow, I suppose (:
[12:20] <aeon-ltd> Hawk1: lower swappiness, disable ipv6, use lighter apps
[12:21] <Hawk1> haha its not slow at all, i just want it to go even faster , Tm_m
[12:21] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: the theme's being applied, the panel shows that, but as far as I can tell, it's only applied to the panel - but if that's so, what's causing it, because there's been no changes to the system since yesterday
[12:21] <quesada> what's the proper way to confidure kde apps (fonts etc) on ubuntu? kcontrol is gone...
[12:21] <alankila> LXDE is pretty fast if you find that gnome starts too much crap, and get rid of firefox as browser, use epiphany-webkit instead
[12:22] <Hawk1> shot thanks guys, i'll try and give it a go
[12:22] <desy> hi
[12:22] <alankila> lxde starts from gdm login in like 1 second, or maybe 2 seconds when cold boot
[12:22] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: when did this happen? what happened prior to the theme breaking?
[12:23] <alankila> and webkit runs in about half the ram of firefox, and javascript jit is better, so it's like double-plus-good.
[12:23] <lucas-ubuntu> #ubuntu-br
[12:23] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: since I first logged in this morning. I only noticed it when I started nautilus, and from there, I discovered that everything but the panel has been ignoring the GTK selection
[12:24] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: Nothing's been changed my session last night, and all I did then was install the alien package for one use
[12:24] <MyWay> alankila: I've read how to apply umask to all users, but how to apply it only to a directory? i couldn't find this
[12:25] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: did you uninstall the package and alien?
[12:26] <xeer> Could I ask about the fglrx driver on 9.10 or is there better support in a different channel?
[12:26] <StarLionIsaac> aeon-ltd: no, and it was only alien I installed. afaik, alien is just for converting packages. I used it to convert one .deb to .rpm to test a theory on a fedora laptop, but that was all
[12:26] <xeer> seems there is no acceleration support for fglrx on 9.10
[12:26] <xeer> glxinfo says "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest"
[12:28] <jimbauwens> Hi, I install an hour ago bootchart, but now I uninstalled it because it made my computer boot about 5 times slower. I have a AcerAspire One. Did this happen allready to one of you guys?
[12:28] <aeon-ltd> StarLionIsaac: sorry i don't have  any more ideas in what could've caused the breakage
[12:30] <magnetron> how do i re-generate the thumbnails in Nautilus?
[12:32] <kupus> hello everybody
[12:32] <spiderman776> hello
[12:32] <kupus> I was wondering if any one of you can help me or shed some light on the subject
[12:32] <kupus> namely my IP address has been banned from the ubuntu forums
[12:32] <kupus> for no apparent reason
[12:33] <Salvad> Hello.
[12:33] <kupus> I haven't done, to my knowledge, anything that would justify that
[12:33] <Salvad> Does anyone know how to listen from the line in input with Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:34] <nibbler> Salvad, hmm, what do you want?
[12:34] <Salvad> To listen from in "Line in" input.
[12:34] <nibbler> ah ok, no idea then
[12:34] <kupus> so my question would be...does anybody know how to lift this ban or whom to contact concerning this?
[12:35] <kupus> I've tried the 'contact the administrator here' option to no avail
[12:37] <kupus> so...nobody knows anything :)
[12:37] <naftilos76> Hi everyone, what do you propose for developing with C++? Anjuta or something?
[12:38] <Gluon> naftilos76, I prefer Geany. It's leaner and simpler than Eclipse
[12:38] <Gluon> And leaner than Anjuta
[12:38] <Gluon> It's just as powerful too
[12:38] <Gluon> And easier
[12:39] <Gluon> I MAY be getting Eclipse though as well since Google makes and SDK plug-in for Eclipse to build Android apps
[12:39] <Guest66590> hmz, I'm running latest ubuntu version, and I installed KDE 4.3.x with synaptic, KDE "runs", but it seems I cannot input anything in any textfield in KDE/ my keyboard is working, because when I do CTRL ALT DEL in KDE, I get the logout thingie
[12:39] <fabio> hi there
[12:39] <fabio> my radeon igp 345 is very slow with ubuntu 9.10
[12:40] <naftilos76> Gluon - Does any of them (IDEs) provide visual building like drag-and-drop controls and buttons?
[12:40] <fabio> i want to try radeon kms ...
[12:40] <Gluon> naftilos76, not to my knowledge.
[12:40] <Gluon> exit
[12:40] <Gluon> Durrp
[12:41] <xeer> nokeyboardlolz: sometimes running the latest ubuntu version is a bad idea
[12:41] <nokeyboardlolz> 9.10 is considered stable, right?
[12:41] <mrqismrx> I am having problem with my display. I have a laptop and a external lcd monitor. If I go into display and the mirror screens is checked then I can't get the maximum resolution which my lcd supports (only the laptops display) but if I uncheck it it found that my external monitior is a samsung and finds it right sulution but then I get the samsung as an "extra" like that I want to do dual screen which I don't. So my que
[12:41] <mrqismrx> stion really is how can I get my resolution which my external monitor but still run mirror screens.
[12:42] <fabio> what kernel do i need for the radeon kms support?
[12:42] <fabio> 2.6.31-14-generic?
[12:43] <yfk> what pdf viewer can  be used for marking text?
[12:44] <__Trullo> adobe
[12:44] <mka> yfk: acroread?
[12:44] <epinky> yfk: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[12:44] <Ramu> hi
[12:46] <Ramu> can i increase the disk space of the UBUNTU, iam using 5gb of my diskspace for UBUNTU..i installed the KDE and Xfce and Educational packages and other updates in Ubuntu.. now am left with only 1.6 gb more... can i increase the size of the Filesystem..with out effecting the data in Filesystem and other drives....
[12:47] <monolith> hello.  questions... for a laptop... should i get i7 1.6ghx chip, or core duo 2.66 ghz chip?  i7 is faster, but it is hotter and i am not sure how ubuntu will run on it.  the i7 is an hp laptop, core duo is system76... about same price.
[12:48] <Ramu>  can i increase the disk space of the UBUNTU, iam using 5gb of my diskspace for UBUNTU..i installed the KDE and Xfce and Educational packages and other updates in Ubuntu.. now am left with only 1.6 gb more... can i increase the size of the Filesystem..with out effecting the data in Filesystem
[12:48] <Ramu>  can i increase the disk space of the UBUNTU, iam using 5gb of my diskspace for UBUNTU..i installed the KDE and Xfce and Educational packages and other updates in Ubuntu.. now am left with only 1.6 gb more... can i increase the size of the Filesystem..with out effecting the data in Filesystem
[12:49] <Ramu>  can i increase the disk space of the UBUNTU, iam using 5gb of my diskspace for UBUNTU..i installed the KDE and Xfce and Educational packages and other updates in Ubuntu.. now am left with only 1.6 gb more... can i increase the size of the Filesystem..with out effecting the data in Filesystem
[12:49] <epinky> !repeat | Ramu
[12:50] <Ramu> ok thanks
[12:51] <Witch-King-VT> how to make tahoma font default in wine?
[12:51] <CyL> how do I change a label for the partition of my thumb drive?
[12:51] <Witch-King-VT> where I must put it
[12:51] <grawity> CyL: gparted usually can do that.
[12:52] <CyL> grawity: sorry, I did not specify it was on the command line
[12:52] <grawity> CyL: If the partition is FAT32 you'll need dosfstools, for NTFS - ntfsprogs, I think.
[12:52] <balau> Ramu, usually you just install KDE or Xfce or Gnome, not all of them together. I suggest you keep only one of them. Afterwards, try "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoremove" from the commandline. Another useful tool is Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage Analyzer
[12:52] <grawity> CyL: So dosfslabel, ntfslabel, and e2label.
[12:53] <CyL> grawity: thanks
[12:55] <MyWay> why if i use: chmod g+srwx x isn't applied?
[12:55] <Younder> Witch-King-VT, that would be a bad idea that is a vector font and it want's a byte font, the same with for every character
[12:56] <Younder> width
[12:56] <spiderman776> hello, how can I configure gdm in Ubuntu 9.10 (the behaviour of login screen and its appereance), in System->Configuration->Login Screen there are only two options
[12:56] <Hawk1> spiderman776, i am looking for the same answer
[12:57] <kcj1993> how do i turn off IPv6 in google chrome?
[12:57] <Witch-King-VT> so how can I made the application in wine to be more readable?
[12:57] <Witch-King-VT> the font is discosting
[12:57] <Witch-King-VT> tereble
[12:57] <Younder> spiderman776, there are may options in System -> admin
[12:57] <spiderman776> Hawk1: I have found that the configuration should be in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:57] <flayke> oi
[12:58] <Younder> spiderman776, take alook at suers and groups
[12:58] <Hawk1> spiderman776 thanks mate!
[12:59] <Younder> spiderman776, right click the backgrround (like windows) for background settings
[12:59] <kesya> ce_azza
[12:59] <shredder12> Hi, I am having trouble with vsftpd. I don't see a home directory of ftp user after installing. So, I don't have any directory as shared folder..any help!!
[12:59] <spiderman776> Younder: I would like to chenge login screen, not desktop background
[13:00] <MyWay> why if i use: chmod g+srwx x isn't applied?
[13:00] <Younder> spiderman776, Change it how?
[13:00] <spiderman776> Hawk1: but in that folder there is only custom.conf (so I try to rename it) and if I change this config, I does not take effect
[13:00] <epinky> Witch-King-VT: what application is it?
[13:00] <spiderman776> Younder: its background and I want not to show the list of users
[13:00] <yfk> acroread can't mark things
[13:01] <grawity> MyWay: It is applied, at least here. I get "rws" in the output of 'ls'.
[13:01] <mha2908> hi! Will I be able to shutdown a Windows-pc on my lan using terminal, exactly as I can if I had a second windows-pc with cmd?
[13:01] <MyWay> yes
[13:01] <balau> MyWay, actually x is applied together with s
[13:01] <grawity> MyWay: If +x was not applied, it would show "rwS"
[13:01] <MyWay> ahh, so s is x also
[13:01] <grawity> MyWay: +s is an addition to +x, not a separate thing.
[13:01] <titan__> Is there any way to get the "git-clone" command to work in UB9.10?
[13:01] <Witch-King-VT> epinky, Be che
[13:01] <MyWay> thank you for the explanation i couldn't understand :P
[13:01] <Younder> spiderman776, Yes,  have it log in directly
[13:02] <Witch-King-VT> epinky, Bit che
[13:02] <cutout> Hi, is it possible to install launchpad on a local server for private use?
[13:02] <Witch-King-VT> *
[13:02] <Younder> spiderman776, you want a passwd still?
[13:02] <k0rupted> hey so wahts the deal with 9.10 and xorg... I understand how that method is out of date... im trying to setup the ATI open source drivers, and id like to just change the needed places in my current xorg file...
[13:02] <k0rupted> is there anyway to export my current settings?
[13:02] <mha2908> hi! Will I be able to shutdown a Windows-pc on my lan using terminal, exactly as I can if I had a second windows-pc with cmd?
[13:02] <grawity> mha2908: net rpc shutdown -S remotemachinename -U remoteusername
[13:03] <mha2908> oh, thx...
[13:03] <MyWay> Another question: how to make new created file having another user/group, different from the default?
[13:03] <epinky> Witch-King-VT: Bittorrent based on Java, try "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-fonts"
[13:03] <grawity> mha2908: Requires smbclient - but you probably already have that.
[13:03] <spiderman776> Younder: yes, I want to write username and password
[13:03] <mha2908> yeah, am already using samba
[13:03] <Adam> My ubuntu x64 system really is buggy. hda-intel: Too big adjustment 32 and npviewer.bin: segfault at.. Spotify and Flash turns my comp to a zombie
[13:03] <grawity> MyWay: You cannot change the default owner. But you can set the default group -- by adding the setgid (g+s) bit on the directory.
[13:03] <kcj1993> How do i turn off IPv6 in google chrome? anyone?
[13:04] <MyWay> ok thanks grawity
[13:04] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[13:04] <cutout> is it possible to install launchpad on a local server for private use?
[13:04] <Adam> Anyway to fix that ? :/
[13:04] <titan__> Adam, try the 64bit Alpha of Flash
[13:04] <Adam> titan__; I believe I am :/
[13:04] <grawity> MyWay: For example, if you do "chgrp family ~/photos; chmod g+s ~/photos; touch ~/photos/something", then ~/photos/something will have "family" as its group.
[13:04] <bilgehan> #ubuntu-tr
[13:05] <MyWay> thank you grawity, now i've learned something new :)
[13:05] <titan__> You downloaded the 64 bit alph and placed the file in your .mozilla/plugins folder?
[13:05] <titan__> Adam ^^
[13:05]  * kcj1993 *facepalm*
[13:06] <grawity> kcj1993: I'd prefer making IPv6 actually work.
[13:06] <Adam> titan__; ^^ .. I'm gettin really annoyed by this :p
[13:06] <kcj1993> how
[13:06] <monolith> is a solid state drive worth the benefit for $270/80g these days?
[13:06] <bilgehan> irc.freenode.org #ubuntu-tr
[13:06] <Hawk1> monolith , nope not yet
[13:06] <grawity> bilgehan: /join #ubuntu-tr
[13:07] <Younder> spiderman776, I believe this is what you are lookin for: http://lionlix.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/hack-ubuntu-9-10-disabling-userlist-in-gdm-login-screen/
[13:07] <bilgehan> tanks grawity
[13:07] <monolith> thanks hawk1.
[13:07] <mha2908> so, I can now shutdown a windows-pc wit net rpc shutdown, but can I also make the win-pc go to stand-by or hibernate?
[13:07] <alabd> how to build java on ubuntu ?
[13:07] <titan__> Adam, so you actually went to Adobe's site, downloaded their 64bit Alpha Flash version and copied the one file that came with the download into your $HOME/.mozilla/plugins folder? All after making sure you had removed any previous versions of flash?
[13:08] <Hawk1> monolith, no worries. Its just still too expensive for what you are getting, and they really don't live up to the hype at this stage.
[13:08] <Adam> titan__; yes
[13:08] <spiderman776> Younder: thx very much, I will try it
[13:08] <mha2908> hi! Will I be able to make a Windows-pc on my lan go to standby using terminal, exactly as I can if I had a second windows-pc with cmd?
[13:09] <Adam> titan__; Or acctually the file couldn't be found at adobe's website.. but found it elsewhere
[13:09] <Adam> seems alot of ppl have almost the same issue as me
[13:09] <LjL> mha2908: how do you do it from a second windows pc?
[13:09] <titan__> Adam, hmmm... well in that case, in my pretty limited knowledge of Linux, I would say, seek help from one of the pro's here.. I try to stick to helping the newbs, and you don
[13:09] <titan__> don't seem like one.
[13:09] <monolith> hawk1, i am about to buy a new laptop... so i thought it would be really cool to have ssd.  i dont need many gigs for what i use.. so its really forking over $280 for the novelty.  but seems like its not worth it.
[13:10] <Adam> titan__; prob need to build smth gah
[13:11] <Hawk1> monolith, it might be cool if you move your laptop alot. no moving parts and stuff. but i still get the feeling its a bit too new. rather wait for the tech to mature a little. Don't wanna sit with a white elephant 6 months down the line
[13:11] <titan__> Adam, perhaps... but I have my wife running on 64bit ubuntu 9.10 with 64bit alpha flash, there is only one flash site we have found to have a problem with. The NCIS TV show website likes to crash the browser when you are watching your show and it goes to commercial.
[13:12] <Martincz> #ubuntu-cz
[13:12] <titan__> Adam, how are your graphics drivers? Have you got NVidia, ATI or Intel integrated?
[13:12] <Zzeiss> i bought the big IntelMLC drive  for my laptop... noregrets.  booting is like lightning.
[13:13] <monolith> hawk1, what about chips sets.. i7 vs core duo?  really am looking at an hp laptop (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=High+performance&series_name=dv6tqe_series&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg/notebooks/High_performance/dv6tqe_series ) VS system76 http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=96
[13:13] <wildc4rd> trying to re enable wifi on an Acer laptop (running the eeebuntu, based on 9.04 if it matters)
[13:13] <titan__> Zzeiss, I run a 64gb Super talent SSD in my EEEPC, has 150Mbps read speed and 100Mbps write speed, thing is a speed demon!!
[13:14] <Adam> titan__; Nvidia
[13:14] <Adam> titan__; The error your wife experiences is the same on Windows 7
[13:14] <Hawk1> monolith, depends on what you willing to spend. I have a core i7 desktop and it is lightning. but for a lappie core duo would be fine
[13:15] <titan__> Adam, do you have the latest NVidia drivers? The ones from the NVIdia site, something like 190.xx? Let me check the actual version. Or did you use the ones from the repositories, 182.30?
[13:15] <Adam> titan__; I'm using the 1.85 prep.. I know there's 1.9 out on the web, you suggest upgradfe?
[13:15] <monolith> hawk1, well i dont have a deskptop, so this is my one computer.  but i don't do any gaming.. most run ubuntu and do some coding in ruby
[13:16] <titan__> Adam, I have her on the 190.xx one, or whatever is newest, no problems... but that's no promise it will fix your issues.
[13:16] <monolith> but the worry is few years down the line duo will be outdated
[13:16] <Adam> titan__; I will upgrade just in case
[13:16] <titan__> Adam, you do know how to install them from actual file and not repositories right?
[13:16] <falco_> hi, in older Ubuntu I could find the desktop settings in preferences. Where do I find it now? (don't want to see mount points on desktop, I DO want to see trash bin)
[13:16] <Hawk1> monolith, core duo will be perfect. I have an atom in my netbook and it runs full ubuntu like a dream
[13:16] <monolith> cool, thanks hawk1
[13:17] <sheldon> hello i have a laptot with video chipset Intel GMA X4500MHD, and when i try to install or boot on live i get black screen :s
[13:17] <CyL> How does xubuntu compares with ubuntu regarding repositories and community support?
[13:17] <Adam> titan__; ofcourse ;p
[13:17] <titan__> Adam, kk just making sure. I figured you did =P
[13:18] <sheldon> juste after start install i get a black screen
[13:18] <Hawk1> Cyl, its the same repos, you'll get the same support on ubuntu-forums. so its pretty good
[13:18] <sheldon> with live i dont get terminal with crtl+alt+f1
[13:18] <titan__> CyL, I think it uses most of the same repositories, but don't quote me on that, I am still pretty new to Linux (5 years is still a Linux baby)
[13:18] <bilgehan> Looking for such a program for Ubuntu 9:10 Do? Tun Plus 2009 - Terminal Emulation Software
[13:18] <co-MANcunk> oi
[13:19] <co-MANcunk> #surabaya
[13:19] <sheldon> anyone have idea about my problem ?
[13:19] <CyL> Hawk1: I'm running ubuntu on my netbook, but I think I could benefit a little bit more if I used xubuntu, since it is more lightweight than ubuntu... do you think it is a good point?
[13:19] <frog> hi, could someone , please please help me to fix my sound?once i have commented out pulse audio, cause flash haevnt worked. since then i had prolems, it crashed frequently while using more than one application, that uses sound. then i have installed it again like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio . it wirked for a while. but i have only master(np front , surr, cen) and it has just crashed again
[13:21] <Adam> titan__; I can't find the file on nvidia.com
[13:21] <titan__> CyL, I am running Ubuntu on my netbook... I haven't tried xubuntu on this one, but I did try it on an old notebook... I was not impressed. I figured it would be alot faster. It may have just been that the notebook was just too damn slow. It had a celeron >.<
[13:21] <titan__> Adam, just a sec, let me get a link. What NVidia card do you have just to be sure.
[13:22] <syrius> ubuntus
[13:22] <malebola> alguien sabe donde esta el puto menu.lst
[13:22] <malebola> de grub
[13:22] <malebola> que antges estaba en
[13:22] <syrius> I have problem with fceu-server it doesn't work :(
[13:22] <malebola> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:22] <malebola> sorry
[13:23] <malebola> thats the english
[13:23] <malebola> page
[13:23] <syrius> when I recompile it works but I can't enable sound with gfceu for some reason
[13:23] <malebola> i am sorry
[13:23] <titan__> Adam, what model of NVidia card do you have?
[13:23] <syrius> if I do even without server install for some reason it messes up dunno why
[13:23] <Adam> titan__; Whatever Ion asrock 330 has, can't check atm
[13:23] <syrius> :(
[13:23] <malebola>  does anyone knows where is the menu.lst
[13:23] <malebola> of grub
[13:23] <malebola> i mean
[13:23] <psycho_oreos> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:24] <malebola> i thought that
[13:24] <CyL> titan__: hmmm, that's a good point... how does xubuntu recognized your ahrdware, and how about the defaut applications?
[13:24] <malebola> but is not there
[13:24] <titan__> Adam, oh ION.... hmmmm I will try and find you one but I remember running across a short complaint one time that ION didn't have great support in Linux yet, but we will try. BRB.
[13:24] <psycho_oreos> you sure you're using grub?
[13:24] <CyL> malebola: what does find -name menu.lst returns?
[13:24] <malebola> yes i am doing that
[13:24] <malebola> thanks
[13:25] <malebola> anyone from london?
[13:25] <psycho_oreos> find / -name menu.lst
[13:25] <Adam> titan__; I've come across drivers now, should I upgrade to the latest?
[13:25] <titan__> Adam, yes go for it
[13:26] <titan__> CyL the hardware support will be identical to Ubuntu's and the default applications are just as good, I think alot of them might be the same.
[13:27] <CyL> titan__: I guess I'll just stuck with ubuntu, it is so intuitive that I won't risk changing to xubuntu...
[13:28] <Adam> titan__; It tells me X is running, even when I'm in ctrl-alt f1..
[13:28] <soopos> What is the name of app which controlls wireless connections in Ubuntu?
[13:28] <titan__> Adam, you must do a sudo stop gdm
[13:28] <Adam> oh rite
[13:28] <titan__> after ctrl alt f1
[13:28] <psycho_oreos> soopos, networkmanager?
[13:29] <soopos> psycho_oreos: How can you start it from terminal?
[13:29] <titan__> Adam, You got the 	190.42 drivers right?
[13:30] <Adam> titan__; the newer one, 195
[13:30] <titan__> Adam, ah,... didn't see that one. Where did you find it?
[13:30] <Adam> titan__; should I install the Nvidia 32 bit comptatibility OpenGl libraries?
[13:30]  * om26er thought nvidia 195 was beta 
[13:30] <Adam> om26er; it is
[13:31] <titan__> Adam, yes install the 32bit compat
[13:31] <Adam> Hope this will do the trick
[13:31] <titan__> Adam, hopefully, if not try the full release ones, 190.42.
[13:31] <psycho_oreos> soopos, doubt it
[13:31] <psycho_oreos> you can start networking though
[13:32] <titan__> Adam! Make sure you select yes to last question!!
[13:32] <Adam> ye ofc im in x now
[13:32] <titan__> Adam, otherwise you will have to do the x.org file by hand :(
[13:33] <karname> Hi , I installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh on my inspiron 6400 , after first restart (after install from live cd) , my system can't boot (I see black screen after boot grub ) but I can boot it from recovery mode(with graphical mode with startx) ! , how can me fix it ?
[13:35] <awfullone> Hi guys, I have a dualscreen setup, and I was wondering If I could run windows through vmware on one of the screens, and linux on the other one .. would that be possible?
[13:35] <karname> I searched this problem but I didn't found anything
[13:35] <titan__> awfullone, yes
[13:35] <awfullone> well, next question then
[13:35] <awfullone> can I use a current installation?
[13:35] <awfullone> or only a new one?
[13:35] <snoy_ms_> anyone used netatalk on ubuntu with osx clients 10.6.x and shares printer ???? Doesn't work here :-(
[13:36] <titan__> karname, I am looking up your computer stats now... give me a minute and a MIGHT be able to help, we will see.
[13:36] <Adam> titan__; I seem to have lo0st the npviewer error.. atleast atm... hda-intel too bi adjustment still here
[13:36] <Younder> sopos: you need to setup grub
[13:36] <titan__> awfullone, current installation of windows?
[13:37] <titan__> Adam, when do you got this hda-intel error? What are you trying to do when you get it?
[13:37] <awfullone> indeed titan__
[13:37] <Younder> sopos: the recovery manager uses a boot password wich you don't have
[13:37] <karname> also I updated my system with recovery mode , but I have same problem
[13:37] <Adam> titan__; Everytime I switch sound
[13:37] <titan__> awfullone, no that wouldn't be running it in VMware... you will need to install it IN VMware
[13:37] <Adam> titan__; Or not everytime but almost
[13:38] <awfullone> titan__, too bad :( wished vmware could just boot up a partition :(
[13:38] <titan__> Adam, is it a pop up window error?
[13:38] <Younder> sopos: sudo passwd root will do it but you shouldn't, it allows you to do aother nasty things which ubutu tries to protect you againt
[13:38] <Adam> titan__; I don't know
[13:39] <c0p3rn1c> is there maybe some chart somewhere of this channel with avg online users / time
[13:39] <titan__> awfullone, I don
[13:39] <Tm_T> c0p3rn1c: not that I know, why asking?
[13:39] <Younder> sopos: so do this instead: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-450960.html
[13:39] <titan__> awfullone, I don't think it can, but you might ask around someone more experienced with VMware may be able to give you a 100% answer
[13:40] <CyL> Younder: What kind of nasty things?
[13:40] <c0p3rn1c> Tm_T, isnt this channel a nice ubuntu community growth meter
[13:40] <lenswipe> anyone know of a company that offers free ubuntu virtualisation so i can test something?
[13:40] <Adam> titan__; Is the HD flash player really that demanding? Computer almost freezes
[13:40] <Younder> CyL, corrupting the image, and in other ways diableling the abillity of ubuntu to boot
[13:40] <titan__> Adam, lol when you switch audio, where do you get this error? Does a window pop up or what?
[13:41] <yancho> can i login to root@ubuntubox via ssh please? keeps giving me wrong password
[13:41] <CyL> Younder: Couldn't he do that using just sudo?
[13:41] <Adam> titan__; No in dmesg
[13:41] <Adam> titan__; I'm sorry. I'm not native english speakin
[13:41] <Younder> CyL, yes, and he should
[13:41] <Tm_T> c0p3rn1c: unfortunately just number of clients in channel doesn't give much reliable data, also you might like to discuss this kind of things in #ubuntu-irc
[13:41] <grawity> yancho: by default, sshd disallows logins as root.
[13:42] <c0p3rn1c> Tm_T, right thx
[13:42] <yancho> grawity,  from where to change it please? i need to be able to shutdown remotely using ssh key
[13:42] <banister`gone> hey guys wtf is Google Chrome going to be released for linux?!
[13:42] <Younder> CyL, my point is that it give a subset of the root options that is dufficeinet, but has less potential for disaster
[13:42] <grawity> yancho: /etc/ssh/sshd_config - "PermitRootLogin without-password"
[13:42] <CyL> Younder: what I mean is why shouldn't we set a root password if we can still do all sorts of nasty thinks using sudo (that's a doubt I have)?
[13:42] <titan__> Adam, no I wouldn't think it would be that demanding, at least not for that system you got. It should be able to handle it but it could be a problem with the Linux drivers not being up to par yet as that is a very new graphics chip from NVidia. Ok can you give me a full detail writing of the exact error you get with the audio changing?
[13:42] <grawity> yancho: That will allow root to login, but only when using a SSH key.
[13:42] <grawity> yancho: Not a very smart idea though.
[13:43] <lenswipe> anyone know of a company that offers free ubuntu virtualisation so i can test something?
[13:43] <yancho> ok great grawity :) its on an internal lan and im not distributing keys
[13:43] <karname>  titan__ : I have ati x1400 with 2 gig ram also I haven't this problem with 9.04
[13:43] <Adam> titan__; hda-intel: Too big adjustment 32
[13:43] <anom1> Ubuntu appears to have port 1720 enabled. Is there another better way of disabling it, other than blocking with ufw or iptables?
[13:43] <grawity> yancho: Btw, in case you aren't aware of that, it's possible to only allow a single command for a SSH key.
[13:44] <yancho> grawity,  and is it set in the config too?
[13:44] <Younder> CyL, well I confess to have set mine, because it allows recovery mode to et me log in in text mode. And if things are that BAD i probaly need it. But normaly I use 'sudi -i'
[13:44] <karname> lenswipe : I think you must virtualbox but I use vmware server2 (is free , but not open source )
[13:44] <wildc4rd> trying to re enable wifi on an Acer laptop (running the eeebuntu, based on 9.04 if it matters), where do I start?
[13:44] <grawity> yancho: No, that would be set in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:44] <Younder> sudo
[13:45] <yancho> ok .. first im checking for root login
[13:45] <lenswipe> karname, well what it is, i want to test something with a software package but i dont want to do it on my actual ubuntu box because its a production box and i dont have any dev boxes around
[13:45] <titan__> karname, sorry got distracted. It sounds like an issue with the graphics driver. I have never installed graphics drivers for ATI on Linux, however you might be able to get into the x windows if you change your x.org file in your X11 folder to use a vesa video driver and not whatever it's trying to use. Then you could get into X and try to download and install the latest Linux drivers for your ATI card.
[13:45] <yancho> grawity,  what im seeing is that : allowrootlogin was on already
[13:45] <grawity> yancho: ? It's "PermitRootLogins".
[13:45] <grawity> yancho: also, Ubuntu comes with the root account locked - unless you unlock it manually.
[13:45] <yancho> grawity,  PermitRootLogin yes
[13:46] <yancho> how can i test if i unlockedi t or not please grawity  (most prob i didn't)
[13:46] <bazhang> !give me a test
[13:46] <grawity> yancho: Have you ever set a password for root?
[13:46] <Younder> grawity, it's inspired by windows...
[13:46] <bazhang> Fayntic, hi
[13:46] <yancho> grawity,  not sure i did during installation
[13:46] <grawity> Younder: What is?
[13:46] <karname> titan__: no , I didn't say about changing or install graphic (this is information from my hardware) , I have problem with fresh install of ubuntu
[13:46] <shredder12>  Hi, I am having trouble with vsftpd. I don't see a home directory of ftp user (/home/ftp) after installing it. So, I don't have any sharing directory.
[13:47] <grawity> shredder12: Maybe it's /var/ftp?
[13:47] <grawity> yancho: It never asks for a root password during installation.
[13:47] <uuuii> i am trying to install sagem fast 800 modem when i did modprobe ueagle-atm should get the result like that usb 1-2: [ueagle-atm] modem operational
[13:47] <uuuii> usb 1-2: [ueagle-atm] ATU-R firmware version : 43e2ead7
[13:47] <yancho> grawity,  ok so then i never set a password for it
[13:47] <uuuii> but i didnt get no thing
[13:47] <Younder> grawity, limited access, who introduced this with windows 2000 to protect users from themselves
[13:47] <shredder12> grawity, no its not
[13:47] <grawity> Younder: It was introduced much earlier - Windows NT 3.1
[13:48] <Younder> grawity, anyhow it is a good idea..
[13:48] <titan__> Adam, it may be a permissions issue. Try this, do this command in terminal, "sudo usermod -aG audio 'username'" So like for me the command would look like this: "usermod -aG audio titan" or for you maybe "usermod -aG audio adam" If you use adam as your user name.
[13:48] <karname> lenswipe : if you want to do simple work virtualbox is better , vmware server has web gui and better for network and remote control
[13:48] <lenswipe> karname, ah ok thanks
[13:48] <Younder> grawity, I stand corrected, should be BY windows 2000 (I didn't care before..)
[13:48] <uuuii> how can i get my modem get aperated ?
[13:48] <karname> lenswipe  : i think virtaulbox is opensource and vmware is not
[13:49] <grawity> Younder: And Unix had that from the very beginning :]
[13:49] <lenswipe> yh
[13:49] <titan__> karname, on a fresh install of ubuntu or an upgrade, the graphics drivers often need to be redone. If you can't get into x, this is most likely the case.
 i am trying to install sagem fast 800 modem when i did modprobe ueagle-atm should get the result like that usb 1-2: [ueagle-atm] modem operational
 usb 1-2: [ueagle-atm] ATU-R firmware version : 43e2ead7 but i got nothin
[13:49] <Adam> titan__; Done
[13:49] <karname> tkt
[13:49] <grawity> yancho: So if you are sure what you're doing -- "sudo passwd root".
[13:49] <grawity> yancho: But it is not recommended... especially if your server allows root logins with password.
[13:49] <Younder> Gravity: actually root aceess in early unixen gave you access to all unix macines
[13:50] <grawity> Younder: All?
[13:50] <karname> titan__: I can boot my laptop with recovery mode = > resume => sudo startx , but in normal boot after grub I see only blank screen
[13:50] <yancho> grawity,  any other suggestions to send a shutdown command via a remote ssh please?
[13:50] <Younder> Gravity: hence the sid.. (You see it if you try to write to the disk from a CD boot)
[13:50] <Younder> Gravity: ALL!
[13:50] <Chousuke> yancho: send a "sudo halt" and have it be nopasswd
[13:51] <shredder12> i have tried vsftpd on all the last 3 releases and after installing a default sharing directory /home/ftp was created but somehow tht's not the case in jaunty.. may be I messed up something..  anybody using vsftpd in jaunty?
[13:51] <grawity> yancho: "PermitRootLogin without-password" -- and then add this to root's authorized_keys:
[13:51] <titan__> karname, oh ok I see. I wouldn't know then, sorry.
[13:51] <grawity> yancho: command="poweroff" ssh-rsa BLahblahblah
[13:51] <Younder> Gravity: This is way 70's
[13:51] <yancho> grawity,  so i do not set a passwd to root like this right?
[13:51] <grawity> yancho: (replace ssh-rsa blahblahblah with that SSH key)
[13:51] <Adam> titan__; Less good news, comp won't boot
[13:52] <titan__> Adam, try the audio again and see if you still get the error, I think you might. I am still reading up more on your error, I may have soemthing else for you to try in a minute if you are still having the problem.
[13:52] <Adam> titan__; np soz i have to much on my mind
[13:52] <acomobile> can I have a long cmd (ex. ls -R /) running on display :0.0 and move it to a non-X11Forwarding (plain ssh)?
[13:52] <Adam> titan__; usb hdd was in
[13:52] <titan__> Adam, lol ok, you scared me there.
[13:52] <grawity> Younder: While Administrators cannot override ACLs like root can, they still can take ownership of any object.
[13:52] <linxeh> acomobile: if you run it in screen, yes
[13:53] <Myrth> what could be a reason of "The following packages have been kept back" and where can i find it?
[13:53] <grawity> Younder: Feh. Both OSes have their own advantages and disadvantages.
[13:53] <acomobile> how (screen ls -R /)?
[13:53] <yancho> grawity,  after changing permitrootlogin do i need to restart sshd?
[13:53] <grawity> yancho: Yes.
[13:53] <linxeh> acomobile: yes - then ctrl-a, d to detatch it to the background.   screen -r   to reattach on the other display
[13:54] <szonek> hi
[13:54] <Younder> grawity, rules are different from LAN administrators that for machiene administrators
[13:54] <grawity> acomobile: You cannot move already running processes. (It might be possible with cryopid, but doesn't work all the time.)
[13:54] <linxeh> acomobile: if you type screen by itself you'll get a new bash shell - this is the way I normally use it
[13:54] <mynameguy> hi please help my laptop has about 10 C more temperature than using Vista.
[13:54] <samosa> Hi, anyone here I can pm, who is knowledgable, on boot loaders?
[13:54] <mynameguy> using Ubuntu laptop is hotter why?
[13:54] <Adam> titan__; still there ;/
[13:54] <Adam> titan__; I believe that the main issue to this problem is Spotify
[13:55] <titan__> Adam, try this "sudo pulseaudio --kill " don't reboot after the command, just try the audio and see how it is.
[13:55] <acomobile> /me is now known as acovrig
[13:55] <samosa> anyone? had this issue for a while.
[13:55] <Younder> mynameguy, That sounds very wrong.. Normally the load should be lower
[13:56] <titan__> Adam, are you running Spotify in wine? I notice they don't have a Linux port.
[13:56] <mynameguy> Younder: I loaded Linux OS in 2 laptops, Ubuntu and Fedora in both my laptops, Linux OS has 10-15C higher temperature than Vista installed
[13:56] <Adam> titan__; E: core-util.c: Home directory /home/joja not ours. E: main.c: Failed killin demon: Access denied
[13:56] <mynameguy> and increasing temperature
[13:56] <Adam> titan__; yes
[13:56] <titan__> Adam, you used sudo with that command right?
[13:56] <samosa> mynameguy: probably a gpu/driver issue.
[13:56] <Adam> titan__; But I believe flash causes this issue also
[13:56] <Adam> titan__; yes
[13:57] <epinky> !ask > samosa
[13:57] <DrakeSkywing> hey all
[13:57] <Adam> titan__; I'm translating from my native langugage so It might not be exactly the same, but 99%
[13:57] <titan__> Adam, in winecfg, do you have alsa selected as the audio driver to use?
[13:57] <mynameguy> somosa: I am talking CPU temperature
[13:57] <samosa> oh.
[13:57] <Younder> mynameguy, sounds like a problem with the power management
[13:57] <m3onh0x84_> everybody, how to tweak or optimize ubuntu maximum, ubuntu so heavy with slackware or backtrack ?
[13:57] <titan__> Adam, it's ok, you are doing great, can't even tell english isn't your first language.
[13:58] <mynameguy> Younder: Power management looks to be major concern in laptops running linux?
[13:58] <mynameguy> somehow Vista seems to do a better job in Laptops than liux
[13:58] <Younder> mynameguy, for a educational try: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[13:58] <acovrig> Adam, wow - what translation software?
[13:58] <Adam> titan__; I ran winecfg, pressed the audio bar.. It said "No registry sound driver has been found - wine will set one for you etc"
[13:59] <titan__> Adam, then you press it again, and see if alsa is selected.
[13:59] <karname> MYNAMEGUY : i have coolest cpu and quitter fan in ubuntu
[13:59] <Adam> titan__; Now It seems alsa-driver is the main driver
[13:59] <mynameguy> karname: what CPU are u using?
[13:59] <epinky> m3onh0x84_: didn't understand, ???
[14:00] <DrakeSkywing> hey i'm trying to find a program or script that finds duplicate directories, does anyone have any suggestions
[14:00] <acovrig> mynameguy, ubuntu works just fine in 2 laptops of mine, did you try knoppix?
[14:00] <karname> mynameguy : interl T2500 with harder work !
[14:00] <petsounds> !resetpanels | petsounds
[14:00] <titan__> Adam, do this command, same as before, but without sudo "pulseaudio --kill"
[14:00] <Younder> mynameguy, 10 C is not that critical. You need to get above about 130 C before you see failure. However it can reduce component lifetime
[14:00] <karname> *intel
[14:00] <DrakeSkywing> i've tried using fdupes
[14:00] <titan__> Adam, then play with the audio and see what you get.
[14:00] <DrakeSkywing> though it only finds files
[14:00] <m3onh0x84_> epinky: I installed full package of slackware but slack still light, but ubuntu so heavy
[14:01] <m3onh0x84_> backtrack 3, backtrack4 has more than 100 apps , it still light ?
[14:01] <DrakeSkywing> i've been trying to google up an answer to this
[14:01] <DrakeSkywing> though i can't find it
[14:01] <mynameguy> the thing is that I want to use Linux on my Laptops but cause of this bad temperature I dont want to install Linux
[14:01] <acovrig> mynameguy, ubuntu works just fine in 2 laptops of mine, did you try knoppix?
[14:01] <nomism> does someone know how i can export an environment variable in a Makefile?
[14:01] <mynameguy> is that another Distro?
[14:02] <titan__> m3onh0x84, ubuntu is heavy, it supports a lot of hardware out of the "box" and has lots of apps. Sometimes i think it's too heavy, but that's why there is Slack right =P
[14:02] <epinky> m3onh0x84_: use rcconf to disable some services, I think slacky has none by default
[14:02] <acovrig> no, a different KDE flavor
[14:03] <acovrig> personally I like GNOME better, but knoppix seems to work better on some systems
[14:03] <Adam> titan__; Seems all is okay now, can even almost run HD flash without a fleak
[14:03] <mynameguy> which is the Distro which does not destroy the CPU in Laptops?
[14:03] <mynameguy> by heat
[14:03] <Adam> titan__; Perhaps overclockin the cpu a bit will do the trick
[14:03] <fearzaurus> direct me to a chatroom for unix noobs
[14:03] <mynameguy> almost all Linux Distros destroy the CPU or the GPU by powermanagement issues
[14:04] <m3onh0x84_> epinky, I installed sysv- , chkconfig can tweak system but my ubuntu still heavy :D
[14:04] <c3l> how do I edit the grub menu.lst file? it does not exist in /boot/grub
[14:04] <acovrig> mynameguy, try http://www.knoppix.org/
[14:04] <titan__> Adam, it seems to be an issue with the pulseaudio, I had this problem with a game in wine before. Yes, do the Overclocking, and you may need to kill pulseaudio on boot. Create a bootup command for it "pulseaudio --kill" so that pulseaudio is killed every time.
[14:04] <m3onh0x84_> epinky, forget it's sysv-rc-conf
[14:04] <m3onh0x84_> mynameguy, try slax
[14:05] <m3onh0x84_> mynameguy, try puppy :D
[14:05] <bilgehan> hi
[14:05] <bilgehan> Looking for such a program for Ubuntu 9:10 Do? Tun Plus 2009 - Terminal Emulation Software
[14:05] <mynameguy> ther are tons of Linux Distro unfortunately please tell me one which works well with LAPTOPS !!
[14:05] <epinky> m3onh0x84_: then try Lubuntu or Deli Linux, maybe you don't meet minimum requirements
[14:05] <titan__> Adam, you are running an Atom processor, if your bios doesn't have the ability to OC the processor, you might try using some "eee-pc" overclocking program like eee-control or something like that. It's for the EEE PC's but they have the same processor as your motherboard. Good luck with that.
[14:06] <acovrig> mynameguy, what is ur CPU?
[14:06] <Adam> titan__; comes in bios i beleive.. np
[14:06] <titan__> Adam, even better! Sweet, give it a try and let me know how it turns out.
[14:06] <mynameguy> acovrig: Intel Core 2 Duo 7900.......it is pretty state of the art!
[14:06] <samosa> Ok, Long story, like 12 months ago i tryed to install ubuntu 7.10 (or was it 8.10 cant remember) but anyways, I had initially winxp, and i installed ubuntu on different partition using a usb installation, (which uses ugly hacks), anyways when i try to uninstall and delete the it seemed to remove most of it...except everytime i start windows, now it still has the two options for dual boot, i know edit boot.ini, but am not that kn
[14:06] <samosa> owledgable, anyways when i tryed to see what happened when hit enter on ubuntu it simply restarted (as it is uninstalled...just boot menu still left)...now i install win7 which has its own boot loader, and it also shows ubuntu, but when i press enter in that, it gives a specific file causing the problem (forgot its name)...anyways did abit of research and found a simply GUI tool called EasyBCD, which can edit the bootmenu of any
[14:06] <samosa> filesystem like unix/linux/vista/xp/7/mac...so i tryed that problem is it does not detect the ubuntu, only 2 OS it sees which are win7/xp . I have no idea how to remove ubuntu entry but its annoying me, and was caused by installing it, anyone know a fix for this or had similiar problem?
[14:06] <FloodBot4> samosa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <Adam> Don't paste that long sentences
[14:07] <mynameguy> samosa are you  from India origins?
[14:07] <mynameguy> acovrig: Intel Core 2 Duo 7900.......it is pretty state of the art!
[14:07] <samosa> 7900 ? :S
[14:07] <samosa> mynameguy: yes.
[14:08] <c3l> How do I edit the grub boot list? /boot/grub/menu.lst does not exist!
[14:08] <mynameguy> I am sorry it is Intel core 2 duo 9500 with 2.60 GHZ , 800 MHZ bus speed with 6MB cache
[14:09] <Adam> titan__; Only questio nnow is .. how to enter bios
[14:09] <samosa> 9500 ??
[14:09] <mynameguy> i dont want to destroy that CPU since I want my laptop running atleast 12 hrs a day
[14:09] <Adam> titan__; the sec I turn on the comp grub comes up
[14:09] <samosa> oh its a laptop cpu
[14:09] <mynameguy> and linux increases laptop temperature by 5C every 5 minutes
[14:09] <samosa> makes sense.
[14:09] <mynameguy> yes samosa
[14:10] <titan__> Adam, lol. Try as soon as you hit the power key, pressing escape, over and over again... if that doesn't work, try again with F1, then F2 then Delete
[14:10] <samosa> mynameguy: undervolt it :p
[14:10] <samosa> i dont know really...
[14:10] <mynameguy> so slax and Knoppix are good distros for Laptops eveveryone?
[14:10] <acovrig> I think they are lighter than Ubuntu
[14:10] <samosa> gentoo
[14:11] <mynameguy> no pover management issues in them?
[14:11] <samosa> anyone know answer to my question ? :-(
[14:11] <mynameguy> tell me one distro......I am tired with Distro hopping and more than anything else it is destroying my laptop
[14:11] <titan__> mynameguy, they are lighter, but will require QUITE a bit more work to get everything working properly. I am not sure how their hardware support is.
[14:11] <Younder> mynameguy, are you running Firefox?
[14:11] <acovrig> atleast knoppix runs better on my AMD Athalon 512MB RAM and a SAD SIS graphics (card?)
[14:11] <mynameguy> titan__ then it will not suit me
[14:12] <mynameguy> no
[14:12] <mynameguy> Younder: I write a simple C program and compile it using GCC and Boom my CPU temperature reaches 65 C!
[14:12] <titan__> mynameguy, you could try xubuntu, it is supposed to be lighter than ubuntu, but will have the same hardware support and applications.
[14:12] <epinky> c3l: I think it has changed place, now it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:13] <Younder> mynameguy, 65 % is acceptacble
[14:13] <Adam> titan__; Not that it matters but the screen is flickering alot during boot
[14:13] <mynameguy> but for Vista Temperature never goes above 40C
[14:13] <Adam> titan__; I'm not gettin into bios.. should I try to delay the bootup by settin in a usb stick with an OS on?
[14:14] <titan__> Adam, I get that sometimes, it's not an issue. Seems to happen more with beta drivers I think
[14:14] <Younder> mynameguy, gcc is much more CPU intensive than Visual C++
[14:14] <DrakeSkywing> anyone know how to match identical folders
[14:14] <mynameguy> Younder: that is new information for me
[14:14] <samosa> epinky: can i pm u?
[14:14] <titan__> Adam, that won't help, by the point the USB is slowing it down, it's past the bios. Let me look it up for you, what was your motherboard again?
[14:14] <acovrig> mynameguy, look in snaptic/add-remove for an overclocking app, get it and see if you can do the oposite of overclock (send less power to the cpu)
[14:15] <epinky> !pm | samosa
[14:15] <titan__> Adam, found it in my history. Looking
[14:15] <samosa> epinky: ...i just did...no answers...
[14:15] <acovrig> that should keep it cooler, and w/ ur cpu type/setup shouldn't slow u down lol
[14:15] <epinky> samosa: what bootloader are you using?
[14:15] <mynameguy> ubottu: samosa is typical indian do not worry :)
[14:16] <Adam> titan__; I believe delete is the correct key to hit... ion asrock 330
[14:16] <samosa> um, what do u mean? (am not very knowledgeble on bootloaders)
[14:16] <samosa> mynameguy: lol.
[14:16] <Younder> mynameguy, well it is a older system. If has many immediate compile stages. A preprocessor, a compiler, and then a assembler and a seperate linker. Also no pre compiled C++ headers.
[14:16] <epinky> samosa: is it how did you called it? EasyBCD?
[14:17] <samosa> Yes, I used GUI tool to edit bootloader which was called EasyBCD.
[14:17] <samosa> its cross platform i belive.
[14:17] <samosa> er wait nvm
[14:17] <Younder> mynameguy, these get run in paralell, you may well be using your CPU's more.
[14:17] <Adam> titan__; By hitting Del fast as the wind I got into GNU GRUB, beein able to choose from dif kernels and memtest
[14:17] <titan__> Adam, is your computer shutting fully down or does your motherboard have some type of setting that allows it to ALMOST shut fully down but not all the way, making it boot faster? Try shutting it down, then unplugging the power, plug the power back in, boot and hit delete over and over.
[14:17] <samosa> sorry, only windows, but says it can like read unix bootloaders and stuff
[14:17] <samosa> watever that means...
[14:17] <epinky> samosa: is it GRUB?
[14:18] <samosa> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyBCD
 yancho: "PermitRootLogin without-password" -- and then add this to root's authorized_keys: - the authorized_keys after i ssh-copy-id from the other box right?
[14:18] <titan__> Adam, the grub is after bios, we need to find you a way into bios, before grub.
[14:18] <samosa> EasyBCD modifies the Windows Vista/7 bootloader to add support for other entries. Windows NT, 2000, and XP are supported by chainloading NTLDR; DOS, Windows 3.x, 95, 98, and Me are booted via modified versions of IO.sys and the Windows 9x bootsector; Linux and BSD are loaded either by handing off control of the boot process GRUB and/or LILO or by using EasyBCD's own NeoGrub module (which is based on GRUB4DOS); and Mac OS X is lo
[14:18] <samosa> aded via the Darwin bootloader. [1]
[14:18] <titan__> Adam, I am looking through the manual for your motherboard now, just a min
[14:18] <Adam> titan__; There's a "speedboot kinda thing but I believe it's turned off.. but im not certain
[14:19] <samosa> oh...i dont think i used NeoGrub module
[14:19] <Adam> titan__; you advise me to pull the cord?
[14:19] <tilt> hooray! with ubuntu forums i got my wacom tablet to work with jaunty :)
[14:19] <samosa> wonder where that is..
[14:20] <frog>  ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:0
[14:20] <titan__> Adam, ya, pull the cord AFTER shutting down, before booting back up.
[14:20] <samosa> In the "Diagnostics Center," it is possible to reset a corrupt BCD storage and automatically create the necessary entries for the current operating system, as well as search for and replace missing/corrupt boot files. This latter feature can be taken advantage of to install the Windows Vista BCD bootloader. [3]
[14:20] <samosa> EasyBCD can be used to change the boot drive, rename or change the order of any entries in the bootloader, and modify existing entries to point to a different drive. [4
[14:20] <cew> medan
[14:20] <samosa> EasyBCD can boot into Linux and BSD by one of two ways:
[14:20] <samosa> Chainloading GRUB/LILO/etc.
[14:20] <samosa> NeoGrub
[14:20] <samosa> The traditional chainloading method creates an image of the GRUB/LILO bootsector on the local disk and loads this image during boot-time in order to chainload the second bootloader which should already be configured to boot into Linux or BSD. [6]
[14:20] <FloodBot4> samosa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <samosa> EasyBCD also ships with NeoGrub, a customized build of Grub for Dos, which can be configured by editing C:\NST\menu.lst with the standard GRUB syntax for booting into the needed Linux or BSD partitions. [7]
[14:21] <Adam> titan__; biggest prob is that the monitor is a 52" and i'm sittin in my sofa
[14:21] <samosa> . . .
[14:21] <samosa> this is why i want to pm :(
[14:21] <decora> where do i go for help with compiling an ubuntu source package, when it tells me dependencies are broken
[14:21] <titan__> Adam! The key to get into bios is F2
[14:21] <teamoustar> :(
[14:21] <Adam> titan__; anyways, i just did that..
[14:21] <epinky> samosa: http://technoemperor.blogspot.com/2008/09/easybcd-removing-linux-grub-and-re.html , read it calmly
[14:21] <shinran666> can i have a assistant
[14:21] <LjL> decora: have you typed "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename"?
[14:22] <Adam> titan__; Ok, that's good.. I'll try to reboot and hit f2.. fast as the wind
[14:22] <decora> LjL Yes... that also fails
[14:22] <samosa> epinky: ok, thanks.
[14:22] <sirect> I was wondering wheter someone could help me configuring my VPN-Connection... I already tried network-manager-pptp and OpenVPN
[14:22] <shinran666> im trying to set up file sharing on ubuntu
[14:22] <cew> medan
[14:22] <LjL> decora: you mean that command fails, or compiling fails after that command?
[14:22] <Adam> titan__; hurray! worked
[14:22] <titan__> Adam, I knew it would =P
[14:22] <oCean_> !id | cew
[14:23] <decora> LjL: sorry... E: Build-dependencies for gnome-utils could not be satisfied.
[14:23] <cew> medan
[14:23] <Adam> titan__; How much should I overclock it? From what I've read It's stable up to 2.1
[14:23] <decora> if i try individual packages, i get things like   libgnome-desktop-dev: Depends: libgnome-desktop-2-11 (= 1:2.26.1-0ubuntu1) but 1:2.26.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[14:23] <cew> medan
[14:24] <thruxton> hello, I am using ubuntu 9.10 and am wondering how to make it shut down without confirming or waiting 60 seconds? I find it difficult to accidently hit shutdown, i want it to shut down right away, is this possible?
[14:24] <titan__> Adam, I would try a simple 2.0 then.
[14:24] <asus> helloo
[14:24] <Six_String_sense> hey! is there ipod support for Karmic yet? i havent found anything on Synaptic?
[14:24] <cew> medan
[14:24] <LjL> cew: can you stop repeating that?
[14:24] <cew> medan
[14:25] <Adam> Six_String_sense; Yes.. there's several programs whom can handle ipods, or what do you mean?
[14:25] <LjL> decora: it seems to work for me on Hardy; i guess you're on Karmic? maybe it's bug filing time
[14:25] <flithm> hey everyone... since updating to 9.10 I'm having a couple issues: 1) ssh connections to the machine take forever (literally 60 seconds or so, even to localhost), and 2) all my videos seem to play with a strange blue hue.  Anyone know anything about either of these issues?
[14:25] <decora> no im on 9.04
[14:25] <decora> 9.04, jaunty
[14:25] <Six_String_sense> Adam: i cant transfer anything to my ipod, i have tried gtkpod and songbird.
[14:25] <titan__> Six_String_sense, use Banshee, it comes with ipod support and is a great program, almost feels like itunes somewhat.
[14:26] <cew> hat
[14:26] <Adam> Six_String_sense; What iPod do you use? My (i believe fifth version) 80gb video works just fine with gtkpod
[14:26] <Six_String_sense> Nano, the square version.
[14:26] <Six_String_sense> 8bg
[14:26] <titan__> Six_String_sense, you will have to reformat your ipod though. It will have to be formated to work with Banshee... so you will lose your music on there. Though you can use programs to pull the music off first.
[14:26] <fetusbubble> Six_String_sense: A question please. -36-
[14:26] <Six_String_sense> gb!
[14:26] <thruxton> flithm: did you have a pre-existing .ssh folder? try a new user with fresh configs maybe?
[14:27] <decora> LjL: thanks anyways
[14:27] <Six_String_sense> titan__: ok, how do i format it?
[14:27] <lenswipe> hiya
[14:27] <oCean_> flithm: i've seen ssh taking a long time when it was set to resolve incoming ip.
[14:27] <Adam> Six_String_sense; http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[14:27] <titan__> Six_String_sense, after you install Banshee and all of the extras it wants to install with it, hook it up to the computer and try to do some stuff with it in Banshee, it should tell you that you have to format it and offer to do it.
[14:28] <Adam> Six_String_sense; Read that
[14:28] <Halabund> Hi!  How can I avoid having to type in a password when mounting a Windows partition in Karmic?
[14:28] <LjL> decora: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[14:28] <ano> ssh ano@localhost
[14:28] <Six_String_sense> titan__ and adam: ok thanks. ill try those :)
[14:28] <flithm> thruxton and oCean_: thanks trying those suggestions now
[14:28] <ano> i couldnt connect
[14:28] <ano> :)
[14:28] <Halabund> Hi LjL
[14:29] <danobook> ano, wrong window :P
[14:29] <LjL> hi Halabund
[14:29] <EagleScreen> Halabund: adding it to /etc/fstab
[14:29] <decora> What is 'pastebin'...
[14:29] <LjL> !pastebin | decora
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Halabund:  make a proper entry for it in /etc/fstab is one way. Install/use/run  the 'ntfs-config' tool - that may add an entry, or otherwise let you access them with no password ne3eded
[14:29] <Adam> titan__; I'm amazed. Clockin the pc to 2.0 ... hd flash is playing well
[14:29] <shinran666> whats the best network browser to use?
[14:29] <LjL> !mountwindows | Halabund
[14:29] <ano> danobook :"wrrong window " what do you mean ?
[14:29] <danobook> this isn't a terminal
[14:29] <Adam> titan__; All thought the computer seemed a bit slow just after the boot while movin the mouse in the desktop
[14:30] <titan__> Adam, you might want to check your CPU temp just to make sure.
[14:30] <samosa> epinky: that only does it for the win7 bootloader, is there a way to remove it of the xp bootloader aswell? i have two bootloaders when it first boots, it goes into the win7 bootloader, which gives choices of 1. win7 2. winxp 3. ubuntu , if i go to win7 it will load that OS, if i go to 2nd option, it will load winxp bootloader which will give a further two options  1. winxp 2. ubuntu , as you can see i have two entries for two b
[14:30] <samosa> ootloaders in two completely different booloaders, also I dont really like the winxp bootloader, is there a way to remove it and just use the win7 bootloader? not sure if i can as winxp was my primary / main / first partition.
[14:30]  * danobook likes 9.10
[14:30] <ano> i just still in ano-desktop , that means it couldnt connect to my local sshserver
[14:30] <decora> LjL: standby....
[14:30] <uuuii> I can not install the ueagle-atm driver can somebody show me the way
[14:30] <uuuii> !find ueagle
[14:30] <danobook> i've used the same 8.04 xubuntu install for years on my desktop
[14:30] <danobook> now on my new laptop i set up 9.10 in wubi and it's awesome :P
[14:30] <thruxton> on ubuntu 9.10 does anyone know how to make it shut down without confirming or waiting 60 seconds? I find it difficult to accidently hit shutdown, i want it to shut down right away, is this possible?
[14:31] <uuuii> !find ueagle-atm
[14:31] <danobook> power button?
[14:31] <samosa> if u are wondering what the 2. ubuntu and 3. ubuntu do, the 2nd just gives error to some specifc file, and the 3rd just reboots pc again.
[14:31] <decora> http://pastebin.com/fc0f262e  <-- my /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:31] <titan__> Adam, did you kill the pulseaudio again or did you create a startup command for that?
[14:31] <DrHalan> can somebody explain me why ubuntu does install the x11-apps package?
[14:31] <Adam> titan__; I haven't killed the pulseaudio, I've forgotten about that. Going to check dmesg
[14:31] <uuuii> !find glib
[14:32] <uuuii> !fing tomcat
[14:32] <epinky> samosa: in Winxp you've got to delete entries on "c:\boot.ini", however this is a Ubuntu support channel, go to ##windows and ask there
[14:32] <hyperstream> array(2) { [3]=> string(7) "Photo's" [7]=>  string(7) "Holiday"} <-- how can i loop this and get the values, say count($array) = 2, $i = 0; while ($i < (count($array)-1)) { get value of $array[$i]; }
[14:32] <LjL> decora: you have neither the -updates nor the -security repositories enabled. that's not good.
[14:32] <uuuii> !find tomcat
[14:32] <Six_String_sense> It wont recognize my ipod now.. itshows it on the desltop byt not on vanshee. I tried to disconnect it and plug again, but it cant disconnect it, saying its busy..?
[14:32] <shinran666> i need a network browser what do you use?
[14:32] <hyperstream> wrong channel sorry
[14:33] <Adam> titan__; Yeah, the error is back. Need to create somesort of a startup command for that..
[14:33] <decora> LjL: i dont remember touching any of this stuff ever, its a default netbook install... how do i fix ?
[14:33] <Six_String_sense> Shuold i format it from the desktop icon?
[14:33] <Adam> titan__; Seems spotify aint causin em no more .. after I changed em settings
[14:33] <titan__> Adam, you know how to do that right? I assume so, you seem to know as much Linux as me
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> shinran666:  depends on whaat you mean by browsing the network.. if you mean 'looking for samba/shares/windows machines'  the gnome file manager can do that.
[14:34] <samosa> epinky: ok thanks.
[14:34] <ethen637> hello all :)
[14:34] <Adam> titan__; sure
[14:34] <titan__> Adam, ok well if Spotify is working, I guess don't fix what isn't broke lol.
[14:34] <oCean_> !hi | ethen637
[14:34] <LjL> decora: replace your list with this amended one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330312/
[14:34] <orm4> hello folks!
[14:34] <LjL> decora: then type "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". it'll probably download a fair bit of packages, if you never had these enabled before.
[14:35] <shinran666> network browsing help please
[14:35] <ethen637> my ubuntu 9.10 don't resume from standby .. it shows blank screen
[14:35] <titan__> Anyone know how to get the "git-clone" command to work on Ubuntu 9.10?
[14:35] <Adam> titan__; Do you know what Spotify is?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> shinran666:  gnome file manager, or the commands 'smbtree' 'findsmb' can show windows shares on the network
[14:35] <oCean_> !details | shinran666
[14:35] <cew> medan
[14:35] <titan__> Adam, I didn't but a took a quick 20 second look at it on the web when I was helping you figure out your problem.
[14:36] <orm4> Is this a ubutu help chat, or just a bla bla
[14:36] <ethen637> :-D
[14:36] <Adam> titan__; Check if Spotify works in your region. If it does I'll throw you an invite
[14:36] <oCean_> orm4 this is ubuntu support, for chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> orm4:  topic says its 'official ubuntu support channel'
[14:36] <titan__> Ok, let me check
[14:36] <oCean_> cew: really, stop that
[14:36] <orm4> oCean: ok, i see
[14:36] <falco_> help! I can't make desktop shortcuts of programs!
[14:36] <Adam> titan__; Greatest music program - ever.
[14:37] <Younder> on Banshee not detecting iPod in Karmic 64-bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304357
[14:37] <falco_> I can't make shortcuts on the desktop
[14:37] <kostkon> Adam, do you have sound probs with wine?
[14:37] <Adam> kostkon; Doesn't seem to be any problems anymore after setting winecfg to use alsamixer
[14:38] <Adam> kostkon; are you havin problems?
[14:38] <kostkon> Adam, to use alsa ok
[14:38] <Adam> kostkon; terminal > winecfg > sound
[14:38] <titan__> Adam, well I am in America, I can't download it. I assume I need an invite to create an account?
[14:38] <kostkon> Adam, yeah
[14:38] <Adam> titan__; Yes, give me a min and I'll try to look if it works
[14:38] <falco_> Adam when I make shortcuts on desktop I don't see them, I don't see them in nautilus but I DO see them when I do ls in terminal
[14:38] <orm4> I have a question.. I have just instald a program called irssi, is it diffrent from the ircii who is a  program that iv'e know?
[14:38] <kostkon> Adam, i don't have any probs
[14:39] <Younder> the alsa driver is (as far as i know) stable, it is probaly something else
[14:39] <kostkon> Adam, and it's a great app indeed
[14:39] <decora> LjL: doesn't dist-upgrade put me to 9.10?
[14:39] <LjL> decora: uh, not really
[14:39] <shinran666> how do i change to the shard folder i see it with the smbtree
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> orm4:  ircii is an old old irc client. irssi is newer.. weechat is newer still
[14:39] <titan__> Adam, America is on the blacklist, I can't use it rofl
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> orm4:  all 3 are text based irc clients. thers also 'bitchx' and a few others.
[14:39] <decora> LjL: 145 MB over my 3g cell phone modem... here goes nothin'
[14:40] <Adam> titan__; It's due to copyright thingies.. you can use it thro proxy.. seems like on ehell of a hazzle tho
[14:40] <falco_> Adam when I make shortcuts on desktop I don't see them, I don't see them in nautilus but I DO see them when I do ls in terminal
[14:40] <LjL> decora: well, jaunty has been out for quite a long time, so you have a lot of package updates to catch up on...
[14:40] <monolith> hey guys, is an upgrade from core duo 2.53 to 2.66 worth $50?
[14:40] <Younder> Adam: :)
[14:40] <Adam> falco_; You don't need to repeat yourself. Hmm
[14:40] <titan__> Adam I read that
[14:40] <falco_> Adam I won't if I get an answer
[14:40] <chuckf> monolith: depending on what you are doing, no
[14:41] <flithm> falco_: patience is a good thing
[14:41] <monolith> just basic ubuntu and ruby coding chuckf
[14:41] <Adam> falco_; Try this
[14:41] <Adam> falco_; With ALT+F2 open gconf-editor, then in apps>nautilus>preferences tick show desktop
[14:41] <monolith> i dont really do any vido or games
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> ive seen the gnome desktop get confused. and had to log out/back in - to get it straightened out in the past falco_
[14:41] <chuckf> monolith: I wouldn't spend the extra in that case
[14:41] <monolith> great, thanks
[14:41] <titan__> Adam, thanks for the offer though!
[14:42] <Younder> monolith, no, not if all you do is scripting
[14:42] <Adam> falco_; If it is already ticked, untick it and tick it again
[14:42] <Six_String_sense> Gtkpod says it can't process my songs, but banshee and songbird play them all perfectly. why cant anything work -.- Frustrating :D
[14:42] <falco_> Adam, done and doesn't work
[14:42] <KenBW2> do i have anything to be gained from using 64bit Ubuntu on 64bit hardware?
[14:42] <Adam> falco_; did you retick em?
[14:42] <falco_> Adam: yes
[14:42] <orm4> is there any advantage in using a irc termial based program you think?
[14:42] <Younder> monolith, you will probaly never notice the difference
[14:42] <tony18> hello
[14:42] <monolith> thanks younder.  only coding i really do is rails
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> orm4:  i use weechat all the time. I like it. It all depends on what you want
[14:43] <falco_> let me try logging out and back in again BRB
[14:43] <Adam> falco_; If you logout and in again, will they display?
[14:43] <tony18> ci sono italiani?
[14:43] <epinky> Adam: I don't believe that, post results of  "ls -l ~/Desktop/"  , use pastebin
[14:43] <bazhang> !it | tony18
[14:43] <oCean_> !it | tony18
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> orm4:  i dont need any of the 'features' the more complex gui clients have.  and weechat has features those dont.
[14:43] <Six_String_sense> GTKPOD just prints out error message after error message :O i had everything working in 9.10. Anyone know whats wrong?
[14:43] <Six_String_sense> i mean in 9.04 sorry :D
[14:44] <Adam> epinky; Could be an background error aswell.
[14:44] <Pholious> what is wrong with this command? "head -n 3902214 | tail -n 1  chebiOutput.skos.owl", it keeps returning the final line and not the specific one line I want
[14:44] <orm4> Dr: i feel more like a pro when i use the terminal.. stil learning thoug
[14:44]  * om26er people should also google if they get an error message
[14:44] <Adam> epinky; Well, falco left now..
[14:44] <lstarnes> Pholious: tail -n 1 returns only the last line
[14:44] <titan__> Six_String_sense, I am going to try my wife's Iphone and see if Ican get the same problems as you
[14:44] <tesla> merhaba
[14:44] <tony18> ubottu come faccio ad andarci
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> Pholious:  i think theres a way to get head, or tail to give a specific line.    no need to use both commands
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> Pholious:  the man pages are a little confuseing in the syntax i recall
[14:45] <om26er> tesla: english not arabic
[14:45] <bazhang> tony18, /join #ubuntu-it
[14:45] <decora> Pholious: there are less than 3902214 lines in your file? use wc -l to check
[14:45] <tesla> you speak turkish?
[14:45] <falco_> Adam, logging out and in worked, but now the order in the top panel messed up and I can't move things. Even when I untick "stick to panel"
[14:45] <i_is_broke> i have to have a ssh client on a windows box to get it to connect dont i?
[14:45] <lstarnes> !tr | tesla
[14:45] <Jack21> hey quick question: when in vlc when watching a movie the screen goes dark after some time until i move the mouse ,, how do i stop that??????
[14:45] <bazhang> tesla, in #ubuntu-tr
[14:45] <Six_String_sense> titan__: ok thanks
[14:45] <tesla> ok thank you
[14:45] <oCean_> Pholious: you probably mean "head -n 3902214 filename | tail -1"
[14:45] <Jack21>  hey quick question: when in vlc when watching a movie the screen goes dark after some time until i move the mouse ,, how do i stop that??????
[14:46] <titan__> Six_String_sense, do you have podsleuth installed?
[14:46] <m3onh0x84_> What is best distribution support develop coder ?
[14:46] <om26er> Jack21: disable screen saver
[14:46] <ethen637> i need help .
[14:46] <Adam> falco_; seems this has been an issue for sometime. I don't know what triggers it. Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770048
[14:46] <Pholious> decora,  4090776 chebiOutput.skos.owl
[14:46] <robin0800> Jack21: probably the screensaver kicking in
[14:46] <m3onh0x84_> ubuntu or gentoo or another distro ?
[14:46] <ethen637> how to add any fonts in debian?
[14:46] <Pholious> oCean_, let me try that :)
[14:46] <LjL> !ot | m3onh0x84_
[14:46] <Pholious> Dr_Willis, will check as well
[14:46] <bazhang> m3onh0x84_, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:46] <tesla> ubottu
[14:46] <falco_> Adam thanks
[14:46] <Jack21> om26er robin0800 i want to have screen saver , but can i make vlv an exception?
[14:46] <Six_String_sense> titan__: i dont know. i'll check
[14:46] <bazhang> tesla, /join #ubuntu-tr
[14:47] <Jack21> vlc*
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> Pholious:  i had to look this up once befor for some scripting.. but i forget the syntax
[14:47] <tesla> bazhang girdim kimse yok
[14:47] <om26er> Jack21: go to system >> preferences>> power management
[14:47] <bazhang> ethen637, /join #debian
[14:47] <Adam> titan__; This time when tryin to kill pulseaudio it triggered no sound
[14:47] <ethen637> i'm on it
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> Pholious:  http://www.fastechws.com/tricks/unix/head_tail_mid_files.php (another way to do it)
[14:47] <robin0800> Jack21: option in vlc i think
[14:47] <om26er> Jack21: and there put display to sleep if inactive for
[14:47] <Six_String_sense> titan_:it seems to be
[14:48] <Jack21> hmm will check 1 sec
[14:48] <orm4> what do you think about using youtube for learning to use the terminal?
[14:48] <titan__> Adam, ok then the pulseaudio kill we did earlier probably was not the fix to Spotify, I think it was the winecfg part we did, do "pulseaudio --start" and see if spotify works again
[14:48] <Pholious> Dr_Willis, cool thanks
[14:48] <chazco> Hi... I want to remove some old kernels... what packages should i get rid of apart from linux-image-(version)?
[14:48] <m3onh0x84_> thankss all,
[14:48] <_SKiTZO> im wondering if its possible to have xorg.conf back
[14:49] <om26er> chazco: using karmic or jaunty?
[14:49] <robin0800> _SKiTZO: yes
[14:49] <_SKiTZO> i mean i was happy when it went away .. until today when trying to have 3 monitors
[14:49] <om26er> chazco: which kernel version you last installed?
[14:49] <Adam> titan__; i logged out and in
[14:49] <chazco> om26er - Karmic... thinking linux-headers, linux-image and what others
[14:49] <dremits> how can i login to ubuntu server on a machine running ubuntu desktop, not by using a web gui or ssh but by actually logging in as you would in a business network?
[14:49] <chazco> om26er - Ah, i meant what other packages, i know which versions to uninstall
[14:49] <Adam> titan__; worked
[14:49] <Pholious> oCean_, thanks, that worked as well :)
[14:49] <_SKiTZO> about that. i first had to remove nvidia binary driver. what a piece of junk. now i am probably on some low fat nv or even vesa driver
[14:49] <titan__> Adam, sweet
[14:49] <Jack21> om26er: is there an option in vlc? i am on a netbook so i still want my display to go to sleep , just not when watching stuff in vlc
[14:50] <_SKiTZO> but how can i tel when i dont have a xorg.conf file?
[14:50] <Jack21> i am sure apps can do this
[14:50] <om26er> chazco: header and kernel
[14:50] <orm4> i did uninstall old kernels by just using synaptic..
[14:50] <Adam> titan__; there's this sparklin sound just before hda-intel: Too big adjustment 32 hits the dmesg log
[14:50] <robin0800> _SKiTZO: you can add it
[14:50] <Adam> titan__; so much problems with this htpc
[14:50] <decora> dremits: there are many ways... vnc used to be the standard (i havent done it in years though)
[14:50] <Jack21> anyone know of an option in vlc?
[14:50] <_SKiTZO> robin0800: will it then "take over  completely" or will it just "assist" ?
[14:50] <orm4> what did the name synaptic mean?
[14:50] <om26er> chazco: actually if newer headers are installed older automatically get remove if you type sudo apt-get autoremove. AFAIK
[14:51] <_SKiTZO> robin0800: and can i have one generated from my current setup?
[14:51] <dremits> decora: do you know what the standard is now?
[14:51] <om26er> Jack21: i don't know about that. as i don't use vlc
[14:51] <chazco> om26er - Doesn't seem to be the case
[14:51] <titan__> Adam, I figured that is what you were doing was building an HTPC when I seen what motherboard you had and such, especially when you said 52" monitor,.
[14:51] <robin0800> _SKiTZO: assist and yes
[14:51] <Jack21> hmm , maybe i should get mplayer?
[14:52] <om26er> Jack21: totem has that option i think
[14:52] <_SKiTZO> robin0800: what to do to have it generate a config for me?
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> Pholious:  i was thinking it was using 'tail -n 100 -c 101   FILENAME'  (or somthing like that) checking 'info coreutils' tail invocation right now
[14:52] <Adam> titan__; It's really sweet :))
[14:52] <Jack21> totem? is that mplayer ? or the standard movie player?
[14:52] <om26er> Jack21: no it don't
[14:52] <decora> dremits: no i havent had an IT job since 2006
[14:53] <titan__> Adam, I bet! If I had the money, I would do something like that.
[14:53] <dremits> decora: ok
[14:53] <robin0800> _SKiTZO: X -configure with xserver off
[14:53] <om26er> Jack21: use smplayer.
[14:53] <om26er> Jack21: its a front-end to mplayer
[14:53] <decora> dremits: VNC will work though
[14:53] <dremits> decora: ok thanks
[14:54] <Younder> titan: HTTPC and 52 inch monitor.. stop trolling
[14:54] <Jack21> om26er , ok thanks , will try it
[14:54] <oCean_> !vnc | dremits
[14:54] <Adam> titan__; Wasn't that expensive.. I'm not rich.. like 380 usd for the box.. the monitor I had already (bought it really cheap) then the surround system was also cheap .. so :-)
[14:54] <orm4> what is the the best guide to lern to be a more advance user terminal and such things?
[14:54] <Pholious> Dr_Willis, hmm that'd be nice to work
[14:54] <wardholloway> test
[14:54] <dremits> decora: the thing is its not that i want to remotely control the server, i want to log on as a client of the server. does that make sense?
[14:54] <LjL> orm4: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic but i doubt there is a "best" guide.
[14:55] <om26er> orm4: its called " use terminal " give it time and you will learn all
[14:55] <titan__> Adam, nice! But alas, I am paying for a baby boy we just had without health insurance... I won't be buying anything for AWHILE>
[14:55] <wardholloway> test
[14:55] <Younder> orm4, Have you tried UNIX the ultimate reference
[14:55] <om26er> !test | wardholloway
[14:55] <Adam> titan__; Oh.. Sucks to be an american ;/
[14:55] <decora> dremits: hate to tell you this, but all Linux GUI are a client of the server, even if you are sitting right in front of it. X11 is a network protocol.
[14:56] <Adam> titan__; Free healthcare in Sweden
[14:56] <Adam> :-)
[14:56] <orm4> LjL: ok, to much information is confusing somtimes, don't know where to start..
[14:56] <om26er> !ot | Adam
[14:56] <LjL> !cli | orm4, start here
[14:56] <lstarnes> Adam: isn't it paid for by taxes?
[14:56] <titan__> Adam, but I heard with that free healthcare you have to wait for months to get things you need, even things as important as open heart surgery.
[14:56] <wardholloway> quite
[14:56] <wardholloway> quit
[14:56] <Adam> lstarnes; Sure is.. but it covers alot more in Sweden
[14:56] <wardholloway> test
[14:56] <Adam> titan__; Not really.. I've never had to wait for anything
[14:56] <LjL> titan__, Adam: this is #ubuntu, please move other discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <bazhang> wardholloway, please test elsewhere
[14:57] <Adam> LjL; Thanks for the enlightment
[14:57] <titan__> or to private =P
[14:57] <dremits> decora: ok but what about from a remote machine? so i hav the login screen of ubuntu desktop and i type in the username and password of a user of ubuntu server and i login?
[14:57] <Younder> om26er, or a more modern version http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/115/linux-unix-cheat-sheets---the-ultimate-collection/
[14:58] <Younder> I am abit ancient..
[14:58] <om26er> Younder: ?
[14:58] <orm4> I think you are doing a great job helping pepole here
[14:58] <pc400> How do I get ping in linux to show lost packets (like windwos does)?  "reply from, reply from, request timed out, reply from"...
[14:59] <decora> dremits: well, it has been a long time since I used vnc. I think you just have to type your username/password into your vnc client, and it connects to the vncserver on the server. If you want a 'genuine gdm login screen' i think you have to do more tricks (that i have never done). sorry i dont know more than that
[14:59] <tilt> wahhh this tablet works sooo nice :)
[14:59] <dremits> decora: ok i'll look into it. thanks
[14:59] <Younder> om26er, well look at the reference, it contains a plethora of commands
[14:59] <tilt> except for the special keys :P
[14:59] <om26er> Younder: i never asked for command to anyone
[14:59] <Younder> om26er, to find out more use man
[14:59] <om26er> *commands
[14:59] <tilt> I want to bind a modifier key <Shift> to some xinput device
[14:59] <om26er> ok
[15:00] <tilt> is there a gnome program that does that?
[15:00] <orm4> Uounder: ok, thanks
[15:00] <tilt> like "manage input devices"?
[15:00] <oCean_> orm4: ch5 of the ubuntu pocketguide also may be helpful: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[15:01] <orm4> oCean_: I look in to that
[15:02] <decora> tilt: sorry, no idea. never owned an xinput device
[15:02] <Younder> oCean_, thanks..
[15:02] <tilt> decora: well
[15:03] <tilt> decora: you have a mouse? :D
[15:03] <thevishy> hi i am getting the following error while trying to install ubuntu using cd
[15:03] <tilt> or are you hardcore keyboard guy =)
[15:03] <thevishy> mount : mounting /dev/sda5 on /cdrom failed : Invalid arguement
[15:03] <decora> tilt: i must admit here, that i have in fact, from time to time, used a 'mouse'
[15:03] <thevishy> and then it goes to BusyBox built in shell ....
[15:04] <thevishy> and  further ...
[15:04] <tilt> decora: do "xinput list" ;D
[15:04] <jadakren> pc400, you mean you want the summary given at the end of the run on each line of the report?
[15:04] <jadakren> pc400 : ergo : 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 6998ms
[15:04] <thevishy> (inrafms) mount : mounting  /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed I/O error
[15:05] <comodo> bonjour
[15:05] <thevishy> cannot mount /dev/loop0 ( cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs on //filesystem.squashfs)
[15:05] <Lungan> Everytime I start ubuntu(fluxbox) the sound is set to mute and 0, so I have to run alsamixer everytime I log in, how do I fix it?
[15:05] <decora> tilt: lol, ok.... so what exactly do you mean by 'bind' the shift key to the device?
[15:05] <thevishy> can anyone tell me whats happening ?
[15:05] <tilt> decora: well
[15:05] <om26er> Lungan: installed the latest kernel?
[15:06] <tilt> decora: I have this drawing tablet
[15:06] <tilt> decora: and it has "special keys"
[15:06] <Lungan> om26er, The problem have lasted for a long time
[15:06] <tilt> decora: one of those keys I want ot make act like a shift key
[15:06] <decora> tilt: ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:06] <tilt> decora: it's a key, basically, I can press and release it, X11 sees it, too, so basically no problem
[15:06] <om26er> Lungan: which kernel version??\
[15:07] <tilt> I knowhow to do it on the cmdline
[15:07] <orm4> this thing about mounting/umount seams to work atomatic in the gnome gui is it really any need to unmount a device before you fysikal removi it?
[15:07] <Lungan> om26er, Don't know, how do i check?
[15:07] <tilt> I just wondered if there is a GUI program by now that does that
[15:07] <decora> tilt: are you using gnome?
[15:07] <ACameron> thevishy: Unfortunately, I don't know how to resolve your problems, but you might get a better response rate by making your question a little more concise, and asking it all in one message, instead of several in a row.
[15:07] <jadakren> thevishy: you need to reburn the cd
[15:07] <tilt> decora: yes
[15:07] <thevishy> right
[15:07] <tilt> decora: jaunty
[15:07] <thevishy> thanks i will do that
[15:07] <om26er> Lungan: uname -a
[15:07] <ACameron> thevishy: Or, jadakren will answer you right away.  :D
[15:07] <LjL> orm4: you certainly need to unmount things before unplugging them. you can do it from the GUI, though, but it's still unmounting.
[15:08] <Lungan> om26er,  Linux unknown-laptop 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 14:54:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:08] <jadakren> thevishy: i assume you are trying to install karmic?
[15:08] <shinran666> ok how do i execute the samba apt
[15:08] <yellabs> hi there
[15:09] <om26er> Lungan: its the proposed one that comes with updates. if i install a later kernel then i face the problem you face but not with this version
[15:09] <orm4> LjL: ok, but why it's working anyway for me, is it to avoid system crash?
[15:09] <Lungan> om26er, I think my problem have something to do with fluxbox? What is the channel to fluxbox+
[15:09] <oCean_> thevishy: be sure to checksum your download before burning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:09] <yellabs> i have firefox 3.5 but cant play apple.com/trailers , what can i do ?
[15:09] <shinran666> ok how do i execute the samba apt
[15:10] <SineDeviance> hi... i want to disable some services i dont need and speed up ubuntu... any tips?
[15:10] <LjL> orm4: no, it's to avoid destroying the data on your removable devices, or in certain cases, your removable device itself (USB key)
[15:10] <sam_> anyone know of a face to face webcam chat that works in ubuntu? Must be embedded in a browser. OOVOO javascript seems to fail on firefox
[15:10] <ACameron> Does anybody know how to reset the login screen to its default appearance in 9.10?  I managed to change it by enabling and then disabling the "high-contrast" accessibility option.. but it's not back to what it was at first.
[15:10] <yellabs> amsn
[15:10] <yellabs> tokbox
[15:10] <LjL> orm4: unplugging USB keys without unmounting them is a gamble. it may go well for a while, and then you lose your data.
[15:10] <oCean_> !prefix | yellabs
[15:10] <yellabs> i have firefox 3.5 but cant play apple.com/trailers , what can i do ?
[15:11] <om26er> i have firefox 3.5.5 but cannot play chess at facebook.. (ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed)
[15:11] <thevishy> I get the following error when I try to install ubuntu using a cd that i burnt
[15:11] <thevishy> mount : mounting /dev/sda5 on /cdrom failed : Invalid arguement
[15:11] <thevishy> It goes to the BusyBox built in shell and then outputs
[15:11] <thevishy> (inrafms) mount : mounting  /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed I/O error
[15:11] <thevishy> cannot mount /dev/loop0 ( cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs on //filesystem.squashfs)
[15:11] <FloodBot4> thevishy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <orm4> LjL: I see, thanks, I just plug my 3g-modem in and out all the time.. i stop the gamble..
[15:11] <thevishy> I get the following error when I try to install ubuntu using a cd that i burnt
[15:11] <thevishy> mount : mounting /dev/sda5 on /cdrom failed : Invalid arguement
[15:11] <thevishy> It goes to the BusyBox built in shell and then outputs
[15:11] <thevishy> (inrafms) mount : mounting  /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed I/O error
[15:11] <thevishy> cannot mount /dev/loop0 ( cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs on //filesystem.squashfs)
[15:11] <FloodBot4> thevishy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <decora> tilt: sorry... a bit beyond me...
[15:11] <lstarnes> thevishy: please stop pasting; we can hear you
[15:11] <thevishy> sorry really
[15:12] <LjL> orm4: eh? a modem is not something that you mount/unmount
[15:12] <thevishy> i thought the interface was not working ( mirc)
[15:12] <thevishy> so can anyone tell me whats happening and why the booting is not coming
[15:12] <ACameron> thevishy: Have you tried reburning the cd like jadakren suggested?
[15:12] <lstarnes> thevishy: when you first downloaded the cd, did you check its md5 and sha sums to make sure that it wasn't corrupt?
[15:13] <thevishy> i burnt 2 times
[15:13] <bazhang> thevishy, md5 the iso
[15:13] <thevishy> once I did a disk check and it said one file had an error
[15:13] <bazhang> !md5 | thevishy
[15:13] <thevishy> yeah I know md5
[15:13] <LjL> lstarnes: md5 *and* sha? bit paranoid are we :P
[15:13] <ACameron> LjL: it's not enough!  GPG too plz
[15:13] <thevishy> second time i burnt cd and used the inbuilt option in CD to test the integrity of the disk
[15:13] <bazhang> thevishy, the disk integrity check indicated an error? then reburn at low speed. paste.ubuntu.com in future and dont flood the channel
[15:14] <LjL> ACameron: GPG isn't a hash function, GPG *uses* hash functions...
[15:14] <thevishy> and it came up as the disk has no errors , so do u think I should burn ?
[15:14] <ACameron> LjL: :D
[15:14] <bazhang> thevishy, yes.
[15:14] <thevishy> second CD didnt indicate any error - showed zero
[15:14] <decora> thevishy: try burning at a slower speed, or using a different CDROM drive. also try memtest your machine
[15:14] <erUSUL> !grub2
[15:14] <lstarnes> thevishy: you could also try using the alternate cd
[15:15] <thevishy> right
[15:15] <thevishy> but any idea what the error is?
[15:15] <bazhang> indicative of a bad burn thevishy
[15:15] <ACameron> thevishy: I've had hard times using the LiveCD on my laptop in the past, but the alternate always worked fine.  I never did figure out what was going on with the LiveCD, though.
[15:17] <usr13> ACameron: What is your laptop?
[15:17] <Six_String_sense> ok. i messed up my ipod big time! can anyone please tell me what the f'uck i have to do to add a song to my player?
[15:17] <thevishy> I started a new burn at 8x speed
[15:17] <ACameron> usr13: Dell Inspiron 6400.  I believe the LiveCD works nowadays, but I haven't done a fresh install of Ubuntu in... a while.  ;-)
[15:17] <m3onh0x84_> sorry everybody, I have to go to bed now
[15:17] <thevishy> but the thing is , the disk test showed zero errors
[15:18] <m3onh0x84_> sorry everybody, I have to go to bed now
[15:18] <agent42> thevishy: did you test cd from livecd boot menu?
[15:18] <Six_String_sense> gtkpod is sending errors, my ipod wont play anything.
[15:18] <ACameron> sorry m3onh0x84_, you have to go to bed now.  Good night.
[15:18] <decora> vishy: disk test runs under different conditions than installation. installation uses lots of seeks, timings might be off, etc
[15:18] <thevishy> u mean in Windows or ...during boot up  ? agent42
[15:18] <m3onh0x84_> ACameron, not at all
[15:18] <orm4> A question about using more then two os and the grub2: is grub going to find the third os it self and make it an option when bootup?
[15:19] <thevishy> ok
[15:19] <thevishy> !md5
[15:19] <usr13> ACameron: One thing to realize is that each time a new version is cranked out, there are lots of updates that follow, bugfixes etc... so may be one of those that you were seeing with your laptop.
[15:19] <thevishy> my laptop is pretty old ...
[15:19] <thevishy> but XP works almost fine
[15:20] <decora> CDROMs don't all work exactly the same, some are flaky
[15:20] <ACameron> usr13: Probably.  I started using Ubuntu on my laptop waaaaaay back around 6.10.  That was REALLY buggy.  Every single release has included substantial new features and support that previous ones haven't.
[15:20] <decora> brb
[15:20] <basic786> kira: Hi
[15:20] <thevishy> I have lots of ubuntu 6.10 CD's
[15:20] <usr13> ACameron: I stick with LTS
[15:20] <ACameron> usr13: It's actually started to slacken off in the more recent releases, simply because there's so little broken that's left to fix!  :D
[15:20] <Six_String_sense> id jsut like to add a song to my ipod :D but now gtkpod is sending errors that all my music files are not available, my ipod wont play anything anymore,, it shows the songs but says that theres free space about 7gb/8gb
[15:20] <thevishy> is it ok to install ubuntu 6.10 and then can I update to the latest ?
[15:21] <usr13> ACameron: And am only now considering 9.10 for about a month or so from now.
[15:21] <Michael221> on 9.04 my internet was fine but when i upgraded to 9.10 it became almost dialup slow, why?
[15:21] <kira911> terror
[15:21] <mattgyver> thevishy, however if you want to utilize ext4 or grub2 I would just start with 9.10
[15:21] <bazhang> thevishy, no its end of life
[15:21] <thevishy> ok
[15:21] <basic786> kira911: BAGASS
[15:21] <Six_String_sense> did i really mess up my ipod now too? :D
[15:21] <usr13> Michael221: Not sure, we would need more info.
[15:21] <LjL> thevishy: it's probably not such a good idea.
[15:21] <basic786> kira911: baiguesss
[15:21] <usr13> Michael221: May be a network issue that is unrelated to the upgrade.
[15:21] <kira911> fukin bitch
[15:22] <BluesKaj> thevishy, whynot just download the karmic iso on windows and burn it , then do a clean install
[15:22] <LjL> !language | kira911
[15:22] <bazhang> basic786, please stop that
[15:22] <Michael221> ok, my other computers are fine though, which don't run Ubuntu
[15:22] <thevishy> karmic?
[15:22] <thevishy> karmic is the release name of the new ubuntu ?
[15:22] <usr13> Michael221: What type of internet connection do you have?
[15:22] <Michael221> DSL
[15:22] <LjL> thevishy: Karmic Koala, yes
[15:22] <basic786> kira911: please do not swear, you will get banned
[15:22] <thevishy> i download iso from the internet ( torrent ) to be precise
[15:22] <usr13> Michael221: What router etc?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> thevishy, yes karmic koala
[15:23] <kira911> fine i shant swear btw anybody found how to install wine
[15:23] <thevishy> i think I will do a iso check on it first
[15:23] <Michael221> a netgear router, 802.11 g
[15:23] <pat2> can anyone give me assitance trying to repair the partitiobn table of my external drive using testdisk?
[15:23] <LjL> kira911: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[15:23] <basic786> wine is slow
[15:23] <anon_> kira911, sudo apt-get install wine, perhaps?
[15:23] <SineDeviance> what services are safe to turn off in ubuntu 9.10?
[15:23] <usr13> Michael221: What part of the world do you live in?
[15:23] <Michael221> South Carolina
[15:23] <pat2> i don't know much about partition tables unfortunatly
[15:23] <SineDeviance> Michael221, hah i'm in north carolina
[15:24] <kira911> thanks for info wanna get halo combat evolved running on here
[15:24] <usr13> Michael221: What is the wifi card in the PC you are using?
[15:24] <novi> medan
[15:24] <LjL> novi: STOP randomly repeating that
[15:24] <bradpitt> !id | novi
[15:24] <Michael221> I'm not sure, it just said intel 802.111bg wireless MPCI
[15:24] <usr13> Michael221: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[15:24] <Michael221> its really slow wireless but also when i connect directly with ethernet
[15:24] <decora> LjL : I want to say thank you for pointing me to the problem, sudo apt-get build-dep is working now. apparently netbook remix doesn't come with updates enabled in sources.list ?
[15:25] <pat2> my ext hd wouldnt load (appeared in lsusb but not fdisk -l)
[15:25] <LjL> decora: apparently. doesn't seem like a very good idea though.
[15:25] <pat2> so i formatted it in windows
[15:25] <usr13> Michael221: So you get same slow speed when you connect via wired connection?
[15:25] <thevishy> i would also check if my comp has USB support during boot
[15:25] <Michael221> yes
[15:25] <pat2> and would like to use testdisk to rewirte the partition table for ext3
[15:25] <orm4> well folks, I did the netbook remix install of karmic and now I can't use the "desktop" to på diffrent icons and trash that im used to do, is there any easy way to get the normal ubuntu desktop?
[15:26] <decora> pat2: does it have any important data on it?
[15:26] <usr13> Michael221: Do a speed test and see what it says, (give us numbers)
[15:26] <usr13> Michael221: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[15:26] <pat2> decora: yes
[15:26] <mynameguy> hi I do not know but Linux does not work well with Laptops especially Thinkpad T61
[15:26] <decora> pat2: back it up before you do anything
[15:26] <mynameguy> I have hade major problems with heat buildup over the past 1 week
[15:26] <usr13> mynameguy: Works pretty good on mine...
[15:26] <LjL> pat2: testdisk can (sometimes) recover the old partition table, but it can't recover *filesystems* that were formatted over
[15:26] <mynameguy> what is the use of using Linux in laptops when it can destroy ur CPU
[15:27] <Michael221> 2521 kbps download and 319 upload kbps
[15:27] <LjL> pat2: so if you reformatted an ext3 partition to FAT or something, testdisk won't undo that
[15:27] <pat2> Ljl: ah ok i was afraid of that
[15:27] <mynameguy> usr13: what distro are u using
[15:27] <LjL> !recover > pat2    (pat2, see the private message from ubottu) you will find more tools and instructions here
[15:27] <pat2> Ljl: can i still recover the files somehow?
[15:27] <LjL> pat2: not easily
[15:27] <pat2> ok thanks
[15:28] <decora> !recover > decora
[15:28] <usr13> Michael221: What are you supposed to be getting (according to your ISP)?
[15:28] <Michael221> let me check
[15:29] <anteaya> how do I search a manual for a specific entry?
[15:29] <epinky> anteaya: apropos ?
[15:29] <Michael221> i'm not sure
[15:30] <ACameron> Alright, I'm out.  Have a nice day, everyone!
[15:30] <usr13> Michael221: Try a couple of speed tests and see how it fluctuates.
[15:30] <Michael221> ok
[15:30] <mynameguy> what will be the best distro for Heat management in Laptops??/ I tried Ubuntu, FedoraCore and FreeBSD all are destroying the CPU?
[15:31] <poutine> mynameguy, do you have a single citation for your half cooked notion that linux kills laptops with heat?
[15:31] <usr13> Michael221: I'm getting 1954 kbps & 1944 kbps down on two tests back to back.
[15:31] <kostkon> mynameguy, windows
[15:31] <LjL> mynameguy, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, as this channel is about Ubuntu support
[15:31] <Michael221> ok
[15:31] <BluesKaj> mynameguy, perhaps your cpu is destroying itself
[15:31] <decora> mynameguy: have you tried googling for your specific model of laptop and heat issues with bsd or linux?
[15:31] <mynameguy> poutine: whom are u KIDDING???????......Type Thinkpad Ubuntu Heat or Thinkpad Fedora heat and u will see tons of results
[15:32] <tiger2wander> Anyone help me please, My computer does not detect sd card :(
[15:32] <BluesKaj> mynameguy, tell us which cpu it is
[15:32] <mynameguy> the fact is that Linus Distros have Failed to work with Laptops but the same Job MS has done wonderfully well
[15:32] <usr13> mynameguy: So you are getting higher performance from Linux than Windows?  That is interesting...
[15:32] <mynameguy> why cannot u agree to this one facts?
[15:32] <decora> mynameguy: there might be some command line option to alter the way the kernel behaves
[15:32] <LjL> !ot | mynameguy
[15:32] <bazhang> mynameguy, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:33] <tiger2wander> I'm using karmic 64 bit with kernel 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !troll
[15:33] <usr13> mynameguy: Come back when you have a question about Ubuntu.
[15:33]  * LjL sighs
[15:33] <Michael221> this time i got 1168 and 2583 for upload, but its sort of weird because it is only really slow when navigating to a website, once its there its ok.  Like it takes forever to log in to facebook, but once i'm there its ok, and it takes a long time to pull up a youtube video but once the page is up it will load it quickly, but if i were, from taht page, to type in google.com or something, it would take a minute or so to get there
[15:34] <mynameguy> well I have ubuntu on my Laptop and it is so hot I cannot even type in it
[15:34] <anteaya> epinky, you are onto something with apropos but I can't seem to get the command exact yet, thanks
[15:34] <usr13> mynameguy had a hot laptop!  :)
[15:35] <agent42> mynameguy: i had heat problems on an acer w ubuntu 9.10, there was a bios update available => fixed
[15:35] <BluesKaj> he was here yesterday complaining about the same problem
[15:36] <GhotiPhud> I'm trying to make an iso of a dvd, but the dd command keeps stopping with an input/output error.
[15:36] <bazhang> mynameguy, stay on topic. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:36] <cemc> hi. I was wondering where the proprietary ATI driver stores it's settings (like dual head, resolutions etc)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> he would tell us what his cpu is , iirc
[15:36] <usr13> Michael221: You may be hitting a dead DNS server. Look at /etc/resolv.conf and check to see that the first one is up and running, (try pinging it).
[15:36] <BluesKaj> wouldn't
[15:36] <GhotiPhud> I'm trying to make an iso of a dvd, but the dd command keeps stopping with an input/output error but the disk works fine.  What can I do to fix this?
[15:36] <epinky> anteaya: apropos <topic>
[15:36] <agent42> mynameguy: i had heat problems on an acer w ubuntu 9.10, there was a bios update available => fixed
[15:37] <poutine> cemc, in the org.conf, like anything else
[15:37] <saji_> !iso
[15:37] <poutine> cemc, xorg.conf I meant
[15:37] <cemc> poutine: besides that. there's nothing relevant there
[15:37] <mynameguy> agent42: where to get the bios update
[15:37] <poutine> cemc, there is no besides that, there may be defaults, but that's where all graphics systems store resolution information
[15:37] <decora> GhotiPhud: can you list your commandline exactly?
[15:37] <decora> GhotiPhud: and the error, exactly?
[15:38] <saji_> !iso > GhotiPhud
[15:38] <agent42> mynameguy: it is an acer
[15:38] <thevishy> did u guys say alternate build for iso?
[15:38] <Michael221> it said  nameserver 10.0.0.0.1 but i don't really know what pinging it means
[15:38] <poutine> Michael221, I hope you hand typed that
[15:38] <bazhang> thevishy, yes, it is install only with a text interface
[15:38] <Michael221> it said that when i just typed it into the address bar in firefox
[15:38] <GhotiPhud> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=dvd.iso
[15:38] <GhotiPhud> dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[15:38] <GhotiPhud> 5344+0 records in
[15:38] <GhotiPhud> 5344+0 records out
[15:38] <bazhang> !alternate | thevishy
[15:38] <FloodBot4> GhotiPhud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <GhotiPhud> 2736128 bytes (2.7 MB) copied, 1.73661 s, 1.6 MB/s
[15:38] <usr13> Michael221: ping 10.0.0.0.1
[15:38] <poutine> user__, 10.0.0.0.1 is not a valid IP
[15:38] <thevishy> bazhang : means no GUI like gnome ?
[15:39] <poutine> user__, I think he meant 10.0.0.1
[15:39] <thevishy> thanks
[15:39] <poutine> there's only 4 parts to a dotted quad IP address
[15:39] <Michael221> it said 10.0.01
[15:39] <cemc> poutine: I fumbled around with dual-head on my laptop with ATI CCC. now those settings are stored somewhere, because even if I'm on single display, I can scroll right like there's another display (the width is twice of my monitor's resolution). where is _this_ stored? it's not in xorg.conf
[15:39] <bazhang> thevishy, it will once installed, just not a live cd installer
[15:39] <thevishy> that looks better
[15:39] <thevishy> i am downloading that too
[15:39] <usr13> Michael221: So try pinging it.
[15:39] <epinky> GhotiPhud: use /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/cdrom
[15:39] <thevishy> i will chek the new burnt cd now ...cya thanks
[15:39] <anteaya> epinky, yes but i want a keyword inside that application's manual, specifically I am searching for 'log-append' inside of the openvpn's manual - it is a big manual, and thanks
[15:39] <poutine> Michael221, I really doubt that
[15:40] <cemc> poutine: xorg.conf has some bare minimum stuff, just the driver and some empty sections, no resolutions there
[15:40] <GhotiPhud> decora: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330353/
[15:40] <poutine> Michael221, there's 4 parts to a dotted quad IP address, 10.0.01 is not valid
[15:40] <Michael221> 10.0.0.1
[15:40] <thelinuxnewb> hey for some reason whever I go to burn a video dvd, using DeVeDe and Brasero, the audio lags by at least half a second, sometimes up to 5 seconds. Does anyone know the reason why that may be?
[15:40] <oCean_> anteaya: use "/"
[15:40] <usr13> Michael221: Looks to me like you are getting bogas a DNS IP from somewhere, (more than likely the router).
[15:40] <usr13> Michael221: Is that your router's IP?
[15:40] <saji_> Hi there... I have a problem with an unclean mount of an NTFS partition..
[15:40] <poutine> cemc, That's where CCC stores it if you save it
[15:40] <Michael221> no
[15:40] <decora> GhotiPhud: did you see epinky 's suggestion above?
[15:40] <friendishan> how do i killev evolution mail i's not closing nor it is doing it's work
[15:40] <anteaya> oCean_, sorry I don't understand the context of your suggestion, where are you suggesting that I use "/"?
[15:40] <filosofico> hi, is there a way to block networking only for an application?
[15:41] <oCean_> anteaya: inside the manual use "/append"
[15:41] <Six_String_sense> Banshee wont recognize my ipod.....? how can i get my system to notice ipod?
[15:41] <anteaya> oCean_, ah, now I see thank you
[15:41] <aaron11> Hello. Im having a phone that has audio in the AMR format. I want to know how to get the AMR plugin because movie player cant play it
[15:41] <oCean_> anteaya: which will search for "append" inside that manual
[15:41] <GhotiPhud> I will try /dev/sr0
[15:41] <saji_> hello there
[15:41] <Boohbah> anteaya: inside the 'man' program, pressing '/' will search for the following text
[15:41] <usr13> Michael221: that is your problem.  Put a usable DNS IP in /etc/resolv.conf and see how you do.  (like 4.2.2.2)
[15:42] <friendishan> how do i killev evolution mail i's not closing nor it is doing it's work
[15:42] <Boohbah> anteaya: same in 'less' and 'vim'
[15:42] <anteaya> oCean_, Boohbah thank you, thank you, that was what I was after, cheers
[15:42] <GhotiPhud> epinky, decora: sr0 produced the same error
[15:42] <saji_> aaron11, to play amr files you have to enable medibuntu repository...
[15:42] <Michael221> how would i do that?
[15:42] <bazhang> friendishan, dont repeat so quickly
[15:42] <friendishan> bazhang : k
[15:42] <usr13> Michael221: Or your router's IP (most all routers nowdays have a caching nameserver onboard).
[15:42] <aaron11> saji_: How do I
[15:42] <anteaya> Boohbah, I knew about vim but I don't know 'less' at all, good to know, thanks
[15:42] <aaron11> saji_: Can you guide me through
[15:42] <usr13> Michael221: Edit /etc/resolv.conf
[15:42] <friendishan> bazhang : it's an emergency wanted to check my mail
[15:42] <Boohbah> anteaya: less is good for reading a large text file or a log file
[15:43] <Boohbah> anteaya: i think the man program is actually pipe through it
[15:43] <poutine> Michael221, sudo echo "nameserver 4.2.2.4" > /etc/resolv.conf
[15:43] <bazhang> friendishan, asking many times repeatedly wont get a faster answer. be patient.
[15:43] <saji_> aaron11,sure.....
[15:43] <anteaya> Boohbah, I didn't know about it, I will check it out, my thanks
[15:43] <saji_> !medibuntu
[15:43] <friendishan> bazhang : k
[15:43] <cemc> poutine: you 100% sure there's no other place? If I don't have anything in xorg.conf but resolution is still messed up with the fglrx driver, if I uninstall it, everything's ok, if I reinstall it the same problem reappears
[15:43] <epinky> GhotiPhud: sudo included ? (i.e sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 ....)
[15:44] <poutine> cemc, look, I'm not going to say it again, I'm 100
[15:44] <poutine> % certain
[15:44] <aaron11> saji_: Ok
[15:44] <usr13> Michael221: sudo gedit  /etc/resolv.conf
[15:44] <aaron11> saji_: How do I
[15:44] <GhotiPhud> epinky: same error if I use sudo
[15:44] <saji_> aaron11, 1 minute pls...
[15:44] <Michael221> what is sudo gedit?
[15:45] <cemc> poutine: alright
[15:45] <an0nmat1r> tool to split a mpg file?
[15:45] <saji_> aaron11, read this link- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[15:45] <decora> GhotiPhud: hmm.. from googling, i wonder if it might be an encrypted DVD
[15:45] <Boohbah> GhotiPhud: what are you trying to do? you can see mounted drives with the 'mount' command
[15:45] <Six_String_sense> You run the gedit software as a root user
[15:45] <GhotiPhud> Michael221: sudo gedit is running gedit as root
[15:45] <saji_> aaron11, if any further doubts.. I'll be here.. :)
[15:45] <epinky> GhotiPhud: sudo cdrecord --scanbus
[15:45] <bazhang> Michael221, should be gksudo with graphical apps NOT sudo
[15:45] <usr13> !gedit
[15:45] <mrqismrx> when entering Catalyst Control Center it tells me to open it as a super user but when I launch the program I do it from the icon in the Applications menu. how can I enter it from the terminal and just write sudo before?
[15:46] <Boohbah> an0nmat1r: try avidemux
[15:46] <Six_String_sense> I have to ho walking soon to my gf house, it takes about 40 mins, so i would love to have some music in my ipod...?
[15:46] <GhotiPhud> Boohbah: I can see the drive mounted
[15:46] <usr13> bazhang: Thank you
[15:46] <GhotiPhud> Boohbah: but then I unmounted it to run the command
[15:46] <usr13> !gksudo
[15:46] <anteaya> unfortunately, the manual is no help, I have to modify openvpn.config to include a path to output log files, thus far there is no command to write log files, the openvpn channel directed me to the man but it only has a command line suggestion not a syntax template for appending to the openvpn.config, I'm taking suggestions. Thanks.
[15:46] <saji_> aaron11, you there.....
[15:46] <Boohbah> Six_String_sense: the configuration will be fun for you;
[15:47] <aaron11> saji_: Hi ummm... When I type that will it install the amr stuff
[15:47] <Michael221> where is that?
[15:47] <Six_String_sense> Boohbah: help appreciated.. :D i have tired couple guides but nothing. gtkpod just sends error messages...
[15:47] <saji_> aaron11, No it won't... after adding that repository.. Go to Synaptic and serach for amr....
[15:47] <GhotiPhud> epinky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330363/
[15:48] <aaron11> saji_: Ok
[15:48] <BluesKaj> bazhang, too many cooks ...there should be a limit set to the number of advisors when dealing with questions from new users ...I still recall fro 7 yrs ago how confusing it was when I'd get 6 different answers to one simple question
[15:48] <Boohbah> anteaya: i am reading the example opevpn config file
[15:48] <saji_> aaron11, then install the related packages....
[15:48] <decora> GhotiPhud: if you burn a DVD of plain data, can you read it with dd? that would rule out drive issues
[15:48] <Boohbah> anteaya: it says. 'By default, log messages will go to the syslog'
[15:48] <aaron11> saji_: Ok And I apply for installation
[15:48] <saji_> aaron11, please tell me if it works... :)
[15:48] <Boohbah> anteaya: are you trying to split them into an openvpn.log file?
[15:48] <anteaya> Boohbah, but they aren't, and I don't have any syntax
[15:48] <anteaya> Boohbah, no, I am trying to find them
[15:48] <Boohbah> http://svn.openvpn.net/projects/openvpn/trunk/openvpn/sample-config-files/server.conf
[15:49] <GhotiPhud> decora: I tried this on a DVD and on an audio CD that I had burned myself
[15:49] <GhotiPhud> decora: same result both times
[15:49] <oCean_> anteaya: like log-append /var/log/openvpn.log
[15:49] <aaron11> saji_: I hope it works
[15:49] <anteaya> oCean_, yes like that, can I put that line in the config file?
[15:49] <anteaya> Boohbah, oCean_ here is my .config: https://gist.github.com/e24fae9736e8a2df31c1
[15:50] <Boohbah> anteaya: http://svn.openvpn.net/projects/openvpn/trunk/openvpn/sample-config-files/server.conf
[15:50] <decora> GhotiPhud: do those disks work properly in another machine? (ie are they known good burns?)
[15:50] <Boohbah> anteaya: the log-append line is in this example
[15:50] <anteaya> Boohbah, oCean_ is it there and I'm just not seeing it
[15:50] <anteaya> Boohbah, k
[15:50] <saji_> aaron11, I'm sure it'll.... I used to use amr by that method....
[15:50] <GhotiPhud> decora: yes, they work in another laptop and in a dvd player
[15:50] <Boohbah> anteaya: try ctrl-f in your web browser :)
[15:50] <aaron11> saji_: It does not work
[15:51] <saji_> aaron11, Aren't you trying it now? tell me if u encounter any probs...
[15:51] <oCean_> anteaya: that does not seem a openvpn.conf file?
[15:51] <saji_> aaron11, what problem occured?
[15:51] <aaron11> saji_: It says I need a AMR decoder
[15:51] <oCean_> anteaya: example .conf is at http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware_source/n/openvpn/openvpn.conf.sample
[15:51] <hackoo> I have installed karmic and my wireless is not working, how to install wireless driver for "Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315]"   ?
[15:51] <usr13> Michael221: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   #from a terminal
[15:51] <aaron11> !amr
[15:51] <saji_> aaron11, ok...
[15:51] <Boohbah> oCean_: http://svn.openvpn.net/projects/openvpn/trunk/openvpn/sample-config-files/server.conf
[15:51] <aaron11> saji_: Thats all. I realy need it!!
[15:52] <Boohbah> hackoo: search the internet
[15:52] <tiger2wander> Anyone have problem with laptop's built-in card reader?
[15:52] <hackoo> Boohbah: googling
[15:52] <anteaya> Boohbah, oCean_ but that is the conf for the server, I am not running the server. I need to append to openvpn.config
[15:52] <saji_> aaron11, wait let me try it... I'll give you the exact method to do it..
[15:52] <usr13> Michael221: But you more than likely have a nameserver on your network that is giving out a bogus DNS IP and you need to correct the issue. #Sorry, about the O/T thread here but...
[15:52] <Boohbah> hackoo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[15:52] <marcelo> my card video is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G
[15:52] <Michael221> ok, i'm there
[15:52] <novi> CeW-cr temn
[15:52] <hackoo> in jaunty it was working fine
[15:52] <marcelo> by my video resolution is 800x600, before atualization was 1024x768.
[15:52] <tiger2wander> Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit seen does not detect the SD card reader
[15:53] <anteaya> Boohbah, oCean_ I'm just running the client, and I can't figure out why I can't connect
[15:53] <Boohbah> anteaya: if you are not running a server why do you care about logging?
[15:53] <hackoo> Boohbah: thanks
[15:53] <aaron11> I need a AMR decoder plugin so that tottem can play AMR files. Where do I get it. I tried mediubuntu respetories
[15:53] <Boohbah> anteaya: it is not due to the config file, as long as you have not modified it
[15:53] <Boohbah> anteaya: does the server work with other clients?
[15:53] <anteaya> Boohbah, because I can't figure out why my client won't connect, I only have one error message and it's not helpful
[15:53] <anteaya> Boohbah, apparently the guy who set up the server can get on yes
[15:53] <usr13> Michael221: Got it?
[15:53] <Michael221> do you know how i would be able to do that?
[15:54] <Michael221> but yes, i did what you said and it seems to be working now, thank you very  much
[15:54] <Boohbah> anteaya: what client are you using? tried NetworkManager?
[15:54] <ido_> General Question: If I setup duel boot on my machine for ubuntu and windows. Will my ubuntu work slower than if it was installed alone?
[15:54] <decora> GhotiPhud: so.... can you read any DVDs or CDROMs at all on this machine?
[15:54] <decora> GhotiPhud: In linux or windows?
[15:54] <anteaya> Boohbah, so far gopenvpn, I will look up NetworkManager
[15:54] <Boohbah> ido_: no
[15:54] <usr13> Michael221: Remove the line that has the wrong DNS IP and put one in that works.  i.e. nameserver 192.168.1.1
[15:54] <hackoo> Boohbah: cant I do it without ndiswrapper ?
[15:55] <Boohbah> anteaya: it is installed by default in ubuntu, check your toolbar
[15:55] <Boohbah> hackoo: depends on the chipset, mostly not
[15:55] <hackoo> Boohbah: ok
[15:55] <anteaya> Boohbah, okay
[15:55] <Boohbah> hackoo: write to broadcom if you don't like it :)
[15:55] <moonlite> I'm trying to debug a sound problem. My first course of action is trying to stop pulseaudio to see if the problem might be there (or in its dependencies). How do i do it? killall pulseaudio or killall -9 pulseaudio doesn't work. Are there some process around that automatically respawns it?
[15:56] <hackoo> Boohbah: in jaunty it was working fine out of box, on installation it was showing alert to enable properitory driver.
[15:56] <aaron11> saji_: So...
[15:56] <Adam> Do I have to mount a .img file to play it in ubuntu? Seems like such a hazzle
[15:56] <moonlite> pulseaudio -k doesn't work either, neither does /etc/init.d/pulseaudio force-quit
[15:56] <usr13> moonlite: Use the pid
[15:56] <Michael221> ok
[15:56] <usr13> moonlite: ps aux |grep pulseaudio
[15:56] <Boohbah> moonlite: ps aux |grep pulse | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[15:56] <ido_> thanks, another question: I have only ubuntu installed on my machine. Is it possible to run windows without diminishing the Ubuntu performance? How?
[15:56] <saji_> aaron11, wait pls... I'm trying to install it..
[15:57] <GhotiPhud> decora: I am able to copy this disk with k3b...
[15:57] <usr13> GhotiPhud: Good4u :-)
[15:57] <moonlite> Boohbah, usr13: that shouldnt (and didn't) matter.
[15:57] <Boohbah> ido_: performance is not affected for either OS. They are not running at the same time or using the same resources.
[15:57] <aaron11> I need a AMR decoder plugin so that tottem can play AMR files. Where do I get it. I tried mediubuntu respetories
[15:58] <usr13> ido_: Dual boot.
[15:58] <moonlite> it respawned with a new PID though so my suspicions were correct.
[15:58] <Boohbah> moonlite: good luck, ubuntu sound is a mystery!
[15:58] <decora> GhotiPhud: i would do a google for dd encyrption dvd
[15:58] <ido_> Even if I will install Windows on Virtual box and allocate RAM for it?
[15:58] <decora> GhotiPhud: apparently some DVDs encrypt using unusual methods that confuse dd
[15:59] <usr13> ido_: If you have enough memory and a powerful enough CPU you can use kvm or virtualbox
[15:59] <GhotiPhud> decora: the thing that has me stumped is that I was just trying to make an iso of an audio cd that I burned.  I only used the DVD after that failed
[15:59] <usr13> !virtualbox
[15:59] <moonlite> Boohbah, hm thx. :)
[15:59] <mrqismrx> how come when I go into display and uncheck mirror displays , it acctually says I can run with 1680x1050 which is my supported resolution for my external monitor. but when I am entering catalyst control center It found my monitor and everything but says the my max resolution is the same as my laptop screens. I want to be able to run with full resolution when using hdmi to my laptop. what should I do=
[15:59] <usr13> !kvm
[15:59] <SundanceKid> !lol
[16:00] <decora> GhotiPhud: oh yeah. hrm.... this is a long shot, what if you use dd using different block sizes, like dd bs=128k
[16:00] <ew2> whats the command for checking whether x is an integer ?
[16:00] <Adam> How do I play .img files on Ubuntu ? Do I have to mount them?
[16:00] <ew2> in c i mean
[16:00] <LjL> ew2: try asking in ##c
[16:01] <aaron11> saji_: Hello?
[16:01] <aaron11> saji_: Please be fast
[16:01] <GhotiPhud> decora: I'll try that
[16:01] <ew2> LjL,  i am not authed cant speak there
[16:01] <LjL> !register | ew2
[16:01] <ew2> but there is a ubuntu programming channel, what was the name of it again ?
[16:01] <LjL> ew2: alternatively, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:01] <LjL> ew2: probably #ubuntu-programming
[16:01] <aaron11> !ot | ew2
[16:01] <usr13> Adam: If it is truly an iso or image file, yes you will need to mount via loopback in order to view their contents.
[16:01] <LjL> ew2: but your question doesn't really seem specific to Ubuntu
[16:01] <anteaya> Boohbah, I have Network Manager installed but running 'network-manager' gets me nothing, on my toolbars I have 'Network Proxy', 'Network' and 'Network Tools' but can't find 'Network Manager'
[16:01] <ido_> But why VirtualBox demands RAM allocation? for simultaneous running of 2 OS?
[16:02] <orm2> is there any oftopic chat on this server?
[16:02] <saji_> aaron11, I'm sorry but i'm trying as fast as i can.. If u r in a hurry pls ask someone else..
[16:02] <LjL> orm2: it's just been mentioned - twice :)
[16:02] <LjL> orm2: there's also #defocus
[16:02] <usr13> ido_: Yes, that is correct.
[16:02] <GhotiPhud> decora: wow, changing the block size seems to fix it... odd
[16:02] <Boohbah> anteaya: probably 'Network'. But I have to go. Good day! :)
[16:02] <decora> GhotiPhud: i think audio CDs might also confuse dd though... i dont have a cdrom or dvdrom so i am sorry i cannot help you any further
[16:02] <Enissay> How can I extract .001.xtm .002.xtm ....  files please?
[16:02] <anteaya> Boohbah, thanks for the help
[16:02] <Pici> !iso | Adam
[16:03] <GhotiPhud> decora: you've been a great help, thanks
[16:03] <aaron11> saji_: Ok
[16:03] <Adam> Pici; I know.. just wondering If I had to
[16:03] <zopiac> When I login and AWN starts up, the DockbarX plugin doesnt load. I have to disable and then re-enable it from the AWN Preferences window :\
[16:03] <ido_> Is there a simple way to install Windows as another boot in my ubuntu machine without formatting the whole deal?
[16:03] <usr13> !.xtm
[16:03] <decora> GhotiPhud: welcome
[16:04] <zopiac> Does someone know how to make DockbarX for AWN work correctly?
[16:04] <usr13> I think rar is used for .xtm
[16:04] <Pici> Adam: Well, if its a movie then just opening it with vlc will work, otherwise how else do you plan on getting the data?
[16:04] <usr13> unrar
[16:04] <Enissay> I'll see
[16:04] <om26er> how can i disable xsplash
[16:04] <cdavis> Is it possible to join whatever group handles Ubuntu bugs as testing or confirming bugs? I have no programming skills beyond shell scripts but would like to help the Community in some way.
[16:04] <Adam> Pici; vlc can't play blueray;/
[16:05] <aar> Hi, is it possible to send an e-mail with a modified "time" header?  E.g. I want my boss to think the report was submitted in time when he checks his e-mails tomorrow.
[16:05] <LjL> cdavis: ask in #ubuntu-bugs - they'll probably be able to point you to the right places
[16:05] <usr13> ido: dual boot
[16:05] <decora> ido_: buy a second hard disc.. unplug ubuntu disc.. install windows... replug ubuntu, install bootloader
[16:05] <usr13> ido_:  Partition the drive and make frespace enough for the MS Windows install.
[16:05] <arvind> any one from india
[16:05] <saji_> arvind, I'm from india..
[16:05] <arvind> hi
[16:06] <saji_> arvind, Hi..
[16:06] <usr13> !parted
[16:06] <arvind> hi saji
[16:06] <Pici> cdavis: This should get you started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs :)
[16:06] <arvind> what u do?
[16:06] <LjL> !ot
[16:06] <ido_> usr13 Is there a GUI software to do that?
[16:06] <cdavis> LjL: thanks
[16:06] <manug> ! in | arvind
[16:06] <cdavis> Pici: thanks
[16:06] <usr13> !parted | ido_
[16:06] <aaron11> saji_: It doesnt matter. I read MPlayer is not available for Karmic Koala
[16:06] <IdleOne> usr13: gparted
[16:07] <usr13> !gparted | ido_
[16:07] <usr13> IdleOne: Tnx
[16:07] <IdleOne> yup
[16:07] <Pici> aaron11: sure it is.
[16:07] <Bigshot_> ubuntu hangs at logout and shutdown any ideas??
[16:07] <om26er> how to disable xsplash ?
[16:07] <manezao> problem with kshutdown on ubuntu 9.10
[16:07] <aaron11> Pici: Then please can you help me get it
[16:08] <aaron11> Pici: I cant listen to amr files
[16:08] <aaron11> !tottem
[16:08] <Bigshot_> ubuntu hangs at logout and shutdown any ideas??
[16:08] <Pici> aaron11: You need to enable the multiverse repositories. Its the 4th checkbox listed on the first tab of Software Sources
[16:08] <arvind> my gmail id is arvind.nit.rajasthan@gmail.com and yahoo id is arvidpower310@yahoo.com add me friends
[16:09] <IdleOne> aaron11: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[16:09] <arvind> hi saji
[16:09] <saji> arvind, Hi...
[16:09] <arvind>  my gmail id is arvind.nit.rajasthan@gmail.com and yahoo id is arvidpower310@yahoo.com add me friends
[16:09] <decora> Bigshot_: do you have a specific place or message where it hangs? how long does it hang?
[16:09] <Pici> arvind: This is a support channel, please stop that.
[16:09] <bazhang> arvind, please dont do that here
[16:09] <ido_> Thanks people, for being human :-)
[16:09] <arvind> ok
[16:09] <Bigshot_> decora, indefinitely no messages just blank screen
[16:09] <mrqismrx> xrandr -q show my proper resolution for my external monitor but in display I can only choose from the laptops display resolutions. what should I do?
[16:09] <om26er> !xsplash
[16:09] <saji> arvind, Yep... buddy this is a support channel.. :)
[16:10] <arvind> okyyyyyyyyyyy
[16:10] <arvind> hey saji whats ur full name
[16:10] <IdleOne> !ot | arvind
[16:10] <saji> arvind, let's private chat.. Do not clutter this channel....
[16:10] <usr13> ido_: And thank you for  your well formatted questions.
[16:10] <preecher> when i try to move a file to a folder it tells me "denied you dont have permission"--how can fix this so i can have permission
[16:10] <decora> Bigshot_: so does it corrupt files or something?
[16:10] <bazhang> arvind, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[16:11] <Bigshot_> decora, no
[16:11] <Pici> arvind: or to a private message
[16:11] <hackoo> hey sudo is not asking the password
[16:11] <decora> Bigshot_: how do you know its not shutting down?
[16:11] <IdleOne> preecher: use sudo
[16:11] <usr13> preecher sudo
[16:11] <epinky> om26er: just uninstall it from synaptic, but I think "Ubuntu Warrior" symbol will persist
[16:11] <freak_> someone know how to aktivate xdmp in karmic
[16:11] <Bigshot_> decora, well, the computer lights remain On
[16:11] <preecher> i dont kno how to move a file in a terminal--i was jus drag an droppin
[16:11] <decora> Bigshot_: what make and model of computer? what version of ubuntu?
[16:11] <LjL> hackoo: it won't ask for it if you used it in the past 15 minutes or so
[16:12] <usr13> preecher: man mv
[16:12] <IdleOne> preecher: alt-f2 and type gksudo nautilus
[16:12] <Bigshot_> tx2 HP touchsmart tablet, 9.10
[16:12] <Bigshot_> decora
[16:12] <usr13> !mv | preecher
[16:13] <freak_> someone know how to aktivate xdmp in karmic
[16:13] <saji> !mv
[16:13] <ido_> Oh sorry, I have a very precise one now ;-) Is there a wubi equivalent for the flipped side? that is WINDOWS ON UBUNTU?
[16:13] <usr13> preecher: mv /home/preecher/myfile.doc /home/preecher/myfile.doc/Documents/
[16:13] <IdleOne> ido_: nope
[16:13] <an0nmat1r> q0_0p: thank u wniff was great!
[16:13] <usr13> preecher: mv myfile.doc myfile.doc/Documents/  #Will do the same.
[16:13] <IdleOne> ido_: you can run virtualbox and install windows that way
[16:14] <usr13> preecher: mv myfile.doc Documents/  #Will do the same.
[16:14] <ido_> Ok that is really enough thanks
[16:14] <usr13> Sorry was a typo.
[16:15] <om26er> epinky: thanx worked.
[16:15] <nimrod0> h
[16:15] <preecher> ok i jus did the alt f2 an gksudo and the file is where i moved it so i think it worked
[16:15] <IdleOne> preecher: :)
[16:15] <epinky> !yay | om26er
[16:15] <usr13> !wubi
[16:15] <Bigshot_> decora, you there bud?
[16:16] <preecher> thanks all
[16:16] <arvind> hiiiiiiiii
[16:16] <om26er> !hi | arvind
[16:16] <magnetron> hi, how do i re-generate thumbnail images for video files in nautilus/gnome?
[16:16] <decora> Bigshot_: your last message was just blank on my end...
[16:16] <Whitor> Hi. Its really annoying that my laptop screen dims after 30 seconds of not touching the keyboard or mouse (not the annoying part) and that when it comes out of this mode, it only brings the display up to 2/3 brightness... not the full brightness it was set to before it dimmed... anyway to fix this ?
[16:17] <Bigshot_> decora tx2 HP touchsmart tablet, 9.10
[16:17] <usr13> Whitor: Depending on the laptop, there should be a function key to brighten the screen.
[16:17] <audrius> nieko nesigauna, negaliu prisijungti prie vypres chat
[16:17] <usr13> Whitor: Function key combination that brightens screen.
[16:18] <Whitor> user__, yeah... But I have to rebrighent the screen like 50+ times a day!
[16:18] <magnetron> Whitor: sounds like an ACPI error for your particular laptop
[16:18] <bazhang> !lt | audrius
[16:18] <Whitor> re-brighten*
[16:18] <Whitor> magnetron, perhaps
[16:18] <Bigshot_> decora, you there bud?
[16:19] <oCean_> Whitor: same here, that is when on battery.. on a/c no problems. Haven't found a solution yet.
[16:19] <decora> Bigshot_: yup ... googling
[16:19] <magnetron> Whitor: the ACPI profiles requires different drivers for almost every different laptop on the market. each new version of the linux kernel adds ACPI profiles for different laptops but it's a hard job to keep up
[16:19] <zilla1> gparted is telling me that the boot partition on my main dirve is an empty 200MB partition on the front of the disk, not the logical partition that contains /boot. Grub boots from that extended partition, albeit *really* slowly.  how do i redirect it to boot from /boot?
[16:19] <IdleOne> bazhang: what is lt?
[16:19] <Whitor> oCean_, it does it for me while plugged in too :(     I'm glad to raed I'm not the only one
[16:19] <Bigshot_> decora, me g0og1ed too but no dice
[16:19] <bazhang> IdleOne, lithuanian
[16:20] <IdleOne> bazhang: ahhh thanks
[16:20] <Adam> Is it possible to make ubuntu not wanting to boot my usb HDD .. its really annoying having to take it out everytime I want to boot the comp
[16:20] <tonsofpcs> Zilla: you need to boot from the first n of a HDD, that gets redirected to /boot at some point in the process
[16:20] <om26er> Adam: change boot order
[16:20] <tonsofpcs> ideally, you just put /boot at the head
[16:20] <oCean_> Whitor: it's like magnetron says, it's in the acpi profiles. The strange thing is, that on jaunty all was fine for me.
[16:20] <usr13> magnetron: It is booting from /boot
[16:20] <Whitor> magnetron, I've got a pretty popular make of laptop... It did work well previously ... this is a relatively new issue
[16:20] <zilla1> Adam, what do you mean? its an opton on the boot loader?
[16:20] <gadget3000> Adam: You need to change your bios settings
[16:20] <aaron11> Pici: It does not work
[16:20] <frybye> Hi just installed 9.10 and then the 64bit flash plugin from adobe and now when I go to installed the restricted extras package I not that it will also try and install flash - will it overwrite the x64 one I already have?
[16:20] <magnetron> Whitor: how new?
[16:20] <Whitor> oCean_, I'm on Jaunty now
[16:21] <Whitor> magnetron, a few weeks now ? ... hard to tell
[16:21] <zilla1> tonsofpcs, the first n? whats an n?
[16:21] <usr13> zilla1: but where /boot is on the drive should not effect the speed at which your PC boots all that much.
[16:21] <Whitor> magnetron, I think it came about after an update
[16:21] <magnetron> Whitor: probably after the latest kernel release
[16:21] <Pici> aaron11: What doesn't work?
[16:21] <tonsofpcs> zilla1: :s/n/foo/
[16:21] <decora> Bigshot_: heres a question.... can you do a 'restart'?
[16:21] <Whitor> Sounds about right magnetron
[16:22] <arvind> hi
[16:22] <Whitor> Thanks for the feedback folks
[16:22] <Whitor> arvind, hi
[16:22] <zilla1> usr13, its *really* odd. this is a 3500+ processor, but it boots incredibly slowly. 45 mins to get to login screen.
[16:22] <magnetron> zilla1: what kind of HDD do you have?
[16:22] <Bigshot_> decora Yes!
[16:22] <Whitor> zilla1, wow
[16:22] <usr13> zilla1: Oh, well something IS   wrong.
[16:22] <zilla1> SATA drive
[16:22] <zilla1> 500 GB
[16:22] <zilla1> i believe its a Western Digital
[16:23] <usr13> zilla1: Show us fdisk -l   or somehow tell us the partition scheme.
[16:23] <zilla1> k
[16:23] <decora> Bigshot_: lol ok... how exactly are you performing your 'shutdown' operation?
[16:23] <om26er> !enter | Zilla
[16:23] <Ddorda> when i installed karmic i couldn't connect WEP networks. is that fixed in the network manager PPA?
[16:23] <Bigshot_> decora, gnome shutdown
[16:23] <magnetron> Ddorda: network manager has supported WEP networks for years
[16:24] <usr13> !zillBut may be an entirely different issue that is causing such a slow boot. Not really sure...
[16:24] <MmikeDOMA> Does anyone know how to create Ubuntu-LiveCD on usb stick? I don't want persistent installation on the stick, just the plain old liveCD, just so I can boot it from the stick
[16:24] <Ddorda> magnetron: i know it does, but for some reason on karmic i couldn't connect WEP networks
[16:24] <om26er> !usb | MmikeDOMA
[16:24] <usr13> zilla1: But may be an entirely different issue that is causing such a slow boot. Not really sure...
[16:24] <gadget3000> MmikeDOMA: System>Administration>Usb Startup
[16:25] <magnetron> Ddorda: that can depend on a multitude of factors, maybe you have interference
[16:25] <diddy> I want to cleanly install Ubuntu 9.10 after upgrading the last 6 versions. So I havn't done CD installation in a while. I would like to fully encrypt my Ubuntu 9.10. Do I still need the alternate CD for that or can the desktop CD do that now?
[16:25] <anilalur> Ddorda: yap karmic seems to have issues with wireless in general, try wicd, it worked fine for me
[16:25] <con-man> where do I get myself a debian install of adobe, I can only find the binary
[16:25] <decora> Bigshot_: have you tried exploring any of the logfiles?
[16:25] <om26er> con-man: you want a .deb file?
[16:25] <bazhang> con-man, debian?
[16:25] <magnetron> con-man: medibuntu
[16:25] <IdleOne> !flash | con-man
[16:25] <Bigshot_> decora, yeah
[16:25] <con-man> yes to all three of you
[16:25] <Ddorda> anilalur: i will try it
[16:26] <con-man> Adobe-pdf reader
[16:26] <bazhang> con-man, ask in #debian
[16:26] <con-man> not flash
[16:26] <usr13> !acroread
[16:26] <decora> Bigshot_: even /etc/default/bootlogd enabled?
[16:26] <zilla1> usr13, i thought so too, but i 'm really t a loss for what it is, and i figured this might be esay to fix. i'd appreciate help with either) i tought it might be because this is an older motherboard and a SATA drive
[16:26] <con-man> !adobe
[16:26] <usr13> con-man: try:  sudo apt-get install acroread
[16:26] <con-man> ty
[16:26] <MmikeDOMA> om26er, gadget3000 : love you guys!
[16:26] <con-man> damnit cant find that package
[16:27] <con-man> imma use the GUI package manager
[16:27] <con-man> brb
[16:27] <zilla1> this is my partition table paste.ubuntu.com/330384
[16:27] <magnetron> con-man: make sure to add medibuntu first
[16:28] <con-man> magnetron, as a repository?
[16:28] <magnetron> con-man: yes
[16:28] <magnetron> !medibuntu | con-man
[16:28] <IdleOne> !medibuntu | con-man
[16:28] <zilla1> although thats odd, gparted said that /dev/sda1 had an ntfs partition on it. in truth, i kept it blank and empty
[16:28] <con-man> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && sudo apt-get -q update && sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get -q update
[16:29] <con-man> crap
[16:29] <con-man> sorry
[16:29] <FloodBot4> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <om26er> !enter | con-man
[16:29] <Adam> How can I hide my usb hdd from my desktop?
[16:29] <arvind> any b.tech student
[16:29] <arvind> of india
[16:29] <zilla1> oh, and sorry, device that should be booting is /dev/sda
[16:29] <arvind> rajasthaniiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:29] <Enissay> How can I extract .001.xtm .002.xtm ....  files please? -unrar not working-
[16:29] <om26er> !ot | arvind
[16:30] <LjL> arvind: for the last time, KEEP ONTOPIC
[16:30] <diddy> I want to cleanly install Ubuntu 9.10 after upgrading the last 6 versions. So I havn't done CD installation in a while. I would like to fully encrypt my Ubuntu 9.10. Do I still need the alternate CD for that or can the desktop CD do that now?
[16:30] <alabd> how to config it to be used just for sending data ?
[16:30] <LjL> !ot > arvind    (arvind, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Enissay, install unp , it extracts mostly anything
[16:30] <Bigshot_> decora, i enabled it now?
[16:30] <con-man> E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[16:30] <con-man> :(
[16:30] <trijntje> diddy, you can encrypt home with normal install, for full encryption i think you still need alternate
[16:30] <magnetron> con-man: make sure to ADD MEDIBUNTU FIRST
[16:30] <Pici> con-man: What version of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[16:31] <con-man> aye, I thought I did
[16:31] <decora> Bigshot_: maybe it will give more information to your /var/log messages during shutdown? like maybe tell you if something is crashing?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Enissay,  the command for extracting with rar : rar -e filename
[16:31] <Bigshot_> k
[16:31] <decora> Bigshot_: does this thing have a keyboard?
[16:31] <diddy> trijntje, thank you
[16:31] <Bigshot_> yes decora
[16:31] <con-man> Pici, 9.10
[16:31] <usr13> con-man: http://www.savewealth.com/support/acrobat/linux/
[16:31] <diddy> trijntje, I need protection from 1984. Full disk encryption.
[16:32] <LjL> con-man, magnetron: i don't see an acroread package in medibuntu...
[16:32] <usr13> con-man: But I just use xpdf
[16:32] <alabd> pon dialup , is used for dial up connecting , how to configure it just f0r sending data ?
[16:32] <decora> Bigshot_: can you plug a USB keyboard into it? my idea is to switch to a text console, do the shutdown from there, see if it hangs on a specific shutdown command. you could even try killing X from there
[16:33] <con-man> magnetron there is no acroread package in medibuntu
[16:34] <Bigshot_> decora, thanks for you help man gtg
[16:34] <asus> hi
[16:34] <om26er> !hi | asus
[16:34] <decora> Bigshot_ good luck sorry couldnt help more.
[16:34] <IdleOne> con-man: try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-acrobat-reader-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[16:34] <zilla1> usr13, my partition table is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/330384
[16:34] <usr13> !evincd | con-man
[16:35] <usr13> !evince | con-man
[16:35]  * om26er says adobe reader was very slow
[16:35] <usr13> !epdfview | con-man
[16:35] <om26er> *is
[16:36] <LjL> !info evince
[16:36] <zilla1> om26er, have you tried xpdf?
[16:36] <Enissay> BluesKaj, unixteamsebfunix.001.xtm is not RAR archive    No files to extract
[16:36] <IdleOne> usr13: not all packages have factoids saved in the bot
[16:36] <om26er> Zilla: i like evince
[16:36] <usr13> con-man: evince - Document (postscript, pdf) viewer
[16:37] <usr13> IdleOne: I see...
[16:37] <om26er> Zilla1: its fast.
[16:37] <usr13> zilla1: Looking now...
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[16:37] <IdleOne> heya ActionParsnip
[16:39] <decora> got quiet...
[16:39] <usr13> zilla1: Wow, you have very complicated partitioning.  Would also need to see /etc/fstab  or get some idea what is where on your drives / partitions.
[16:39] <diddy> Are there any befefits of using the 64bit version of Ubuntu over the 32bit version besides having more RAM available?
[16:39] <zilla1> usr13, coming presently
[16:39] <pieces> I have an old Dell laptop and was wondering what version on ubuntu would be best to put on it. Netbook remix?
[16:40] <decora> pieces: how old ?
[16:40] <duckinator> Anyone know what makes oss want to be so dang loud? ._. it's at 0% and everything is loud enough to rattle my windows
[16:40] <Halitech> diddy, depends on what you do, some apps will fun faster on 64bit
[16:40] <usr13> pieces: what model?
[16:40] <duckinator> 1% nearly blew my speakers
[16:40] <diddy> Halitech, I do everything.
[16:40] <IdleOne> pieces: depends on model,ram....
[16:40] <usr13> duckinator: What is at 0%?
[16:41] <Halitech> diddy, like what? audio and video editing? playing games, browsing the web?
[16:41] <coz_> Halitech,  I am not sure you may want to go to the #oss channel
[16:41] <trijntje> pieces, netbook remix needs a fast graphics card, i would put xubuntu
[16:41] <pieces> Deccora: like 5 year old Dell. Don't hve the specs off hand I'll tru back later when I know more.
[16:41] <diddy> Halitech, OK. Let me rephrase it: Are there any disadvantages of using the 64bit version of Ubuntu over the 32bit version?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> diddy: data changes are faster (encoding music, dvd authoring etc)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Enissay,  the command for extracting with unp : unp filename
[16:41] <diddy> Halitech, yes.
[16:41] <om26er> diddy: no disadvantages
[16:41] <decora> netbook remix is not really much different ... and the netbook launcher actually is incredibly slow and unsuited for low power hardware (ie my eeepc 701)
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> diddy: you can install the PAE enabled desktop kernel to access more ram in 32bit
[16:41] <IdleOne> pieces: you can try xubuntu
[16:41] <Halitech> coz_, huh?
[16:41] <pieces> trijntje: Ok thanks.
[16:41] <duckinator> usr13: alsa >.> main volume..... mpd is at 75%... this is about as loud as 75% on main volume + 100% on mpd was when using pulse (which decided to just stop working)
[16:41] <coz_> Halitech,   there is a channle specifically dedicated to oss
[16:41] <CyL> Iǘe accidentely activated a zoom mode, how do I disable it?
[16:42] <coz_> Halitech,   where you type here  just type      /join #oss
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> decora: try lxde, its very light
[16:42] <Halitech> diddy, only disadvantage I've heard of is flash is sometimes flaky (no disadvantage for me, I don't do youtube)
[16:42] <CyL> I've accidentely activated a zoom mode, how do I disable it?
[16:42] <zilla1> usr13: fstab is http://paste.ubuntu.com/330396 gparted tells me /dev/sda1 is ntfs. fdisk says otherwise. that seemed odd
[16:42] <diddy> ActionParsnip, I am reinstalling Ubuntu after upgrading for the last couple of years. My CPU is 64bit capable so I am wondering whether I should go for it or not.
[16:42] <usr13> duckinator: What is PCM set at?
[16:42] <coz_> CyL,  in compiz?
[16:42] <om26er> decora: when you get two panel and window decoration in normal ubuntu install nothing much is left on the screen so ubuntu netbook edition makes the use of small netbook screen more useable
[16:42] <coz_> CyL,
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> diddy: may as well
[16:42] <CyL> coz_: yeah I guess compiz is eneabled
[16:42] <Halitech> coz_, I think you have the wrong person, I've never said anything about oss
[16:43] <duckinator> usr13: 0
[16:43] <coz_> Halitech,  sorry
[16:43] <coz_> CyL,   try the scroll wheel first
[16:43] <duckinator> usr13: PCM at 0, mpd's program-specific volume is at 75%
[16:43] <diddy> And all programs work well under Ubuntu 64bit?
[16:43] <anilalur> CyL: ctrl+scrollwhell
[16:43] <diddy> No exceptions?
[16:43] <coz_> CyL,   or   super+scroll wheel
[16:43] <duckinator> usr13: hm, odd, it's oss-specific :o didn't realize that before
[16:43] <om26er> diddy: except for the adobe flash AFAIK
[16:43] <_CommandeR_> diddy, just install them from synaptic or pakage manager so they install the correct version of it.
[16:44] <decora> ActionParsnip: on my eeepc 701 i just disabled the netbook remix launcher ... and use the normal ubuntu menu , its fine
[16:44] <diddy> OkropNick, thx
[16:44] <CyL> coz_: it solved, thanks... i got pretty lost with that...
[16:44] <diddy> OkropNick, thx
[16:44] <coz_> duckinator,   try going to the   #oss channel
[16:44] <coz_> duckinator,  if you are the one asking about oss that is :)
[16:44] <decora> but to install netbook remix on an old laptop in an effort to get some kind of performance boost? i dont think it will work very well.
[16:44] <duckinator> coz_: i am :P but i thought it was a general volume level failure at first
[16:45] <decora> netbooks are much faster than 5 year old laptops and probably have more RAM
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> decora: lxde is much lighter than gnome
[16:45] <om26er> decora: for performance boost install lubuntu-desktop
[16:45] <om26er> decora: lubuntu=lxde
[16:45] <coz_> duckinator,  since I am not real familiar with oss  stuff  my only suggestion is the #oss channel :)  unless we have an oss  guru here :)
[16:46] <duckinator> coz_: mmm, i'm looking for an oss-specific mixer..might work a bit nicer than alsamixer (iirc there's a software mixer somewhere down the line, and that could be way up)
[16:46] <coz_> duckinator,  mmm let me see if I can find one
[16:46] <duckinator> someone said umix, but i only see aumix...which is not cooperating :P
[16:47] <BluesKaj> duckinator, there's a gtk based gui mixer , but i've forgotten the name
[16:47] <asus> who like 2Pac?
[16:47] <marcelo> xorg.conf is not more used in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:47] <Halitech> marcelo, not by default but if you create one it will be used
[16:47] <Adam> Anyone good on XBMC? I just installed it. When I browse my external hdd I get "Error 2: share not available".. everything works fine but its really annoying
[16:47] <BluesKaj> marcelo, only if you generate it
[16:47] <zilla1> usr13: and here's the /etc/mtab. http://paste.ubuntu.com/330399 /dev/sda is the drive its supposed to (and is) booting from
[16:47] <coz_> duckinator,  there is gnome-alsamixer
[16:47] <duckinator> BluesKaj: aumix? :P i just realized there was aumix-gtk, which is a bit more cooperative than the cli one
[16:48] <Enissay> BluesKaj, finally it works with Xtremsplit, thanks mate for helping :)
[16:48] <BluesKaj> duckinator, could be , i just use vlc for media personally
[16:48] <usr13> !hdsentinel| zilla1
[16:48] <usr13> !hdsentinel | zilla1
[16:48] <duckinator> BluesKaj: i'm trying to set up mpd, i got it working but the volume nearly blew my smaller pair of speakers out when at 1%
[16:49] <LjL> usr13, it really would be better if you checked a factoid's existence before giving it in the channel
[16:49] <usr13> zilla1: http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin.php
[16:50] <usr13> LjL: Ok, thanks.
[16:50] <hateball> !audio
[16:50] <anilalur> Adam:  there was a patch released for that bug
[16:51] <BluesKaj> duckinator, make sure you have the vol on the speaker syatem itself turned right down
[16:51] <om26er_> !mp3
[16:51] <Adam> anilalur; Really? I just downloaded xbmc.. hmm
[16:51] <Ronald> Winamp not Running
[16:51] <decora> LjL: thanks again for help. im buggin' out
[16:51] <LjL> decora: you're welcome, bye
[16:51] <kfkk> hi
[16:51] <BluesKaj> anyway time for my daily walk ...BBL
[16:51] <kfkk> how can I configure gnotify-osd ¿?
[16:51] <anilalur> Adam:  it was long back, It's weired that it's keep back !
[16:51] <duckinator> BluesKaj: yea, it's at like 1/5th on both sets of speakers (i have a set of 2" usb-powered speakers and a 200W stereo)
[16:51]  * om26er_ thinks !mp3 should just suggest to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[16:52] <grawity> kfkk: I don't think notify-osd has any configuration at all.
[16:52] <kfkk> omg
[16:52] <kfkk> I've gnotify integrated with pidgin but when popup's appears I can't do nothing
[16:52] <zilla1> *installing*
[16:52] <kfkk> how can I fix this?
[16:53] <ajh> hi there
[16:53] <ajh> i need to pin point what dock application is running in a screenshot
[16:53] <usr13> zilla1: You should also look at dmesg for clues.
[16:53] <ajh> can anybody help me? :)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> ajh: post a link
[16:53] <ajh> this is the link to the screenshot: http://beginlinux.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/turrican.png
[16:53] <linucss> f
[16:54] <LjL> ajh: docky, from gnome-do
[16:54] <zilla1> usr13, i'll look around, and be back if i come up with a concrete question. thanks  so much
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> ajh: my guess is either simdock or avant-window-navigator
[16:54] <ajh> Ljl: docky from the package gnome-do?
[16:54] <usr13> zilla1: sudo ./hdsentinel
[16:54] <kfkk> I've gnotify integrated with pidgin but when popup's appears I can't open a new conversation, how can I fix this?
[16:54] <anilalur> ajh: its gnome-do docky theme
[16:54] <ajh> ActionParsnip: its with no effects i think
[16:55] <poutine> kfkk, you do not pluralize with an apostrophe, the correct term is "popups" not "popup's"
[16:55] <ajh> thanks both :)
[16:55] <kfkk> -.-
[16:55] <usr13> zilla1: That will rule out a hard drive problem.
[16:55] <LjL> ajh: unless they've split it into two separate programs/packages, which i think they were going to.
[16:56] <ajh> Ljl: splitting the theme and the dock up in speperate packages?
[16:56] <guitar-maniac> got my ipod working.. but it boots itself when taking odd from my pc?
[16:56] <anilalur> LjL ajh it's still with gnome-do in 0.8.2
[16:56] <LjL> ajh: uh, the theme? neither gnome-do nor docky is a "theme"
[16:56] <guitar-maniac> off*
[16:56] <ajh> Ljl: docky is a dock then?
[16:57] <LjL> ajh: as the name hints... yes
[16:57] <dAlfa89_> guitar-maniac, unmounting it first?
[16:57] <ajh> Ljl: eh okay so gnome-do is just a package with the docky app?
[16:57] <guitar-maniac> dalfa89: i chose from banshee that eject my ipod?
[16:57] <anilalur> ajh: gnome-do is a application and docky is a new theme they added to it, which works as dock
[16:58] <LjL> ajh: no, gnome-do is a program starter, similar to Katapult by default but with a plugin architecture
[16:58] <LjL> ajh: why don't you type "apt-cache show gnome-do" and read the description?
[16:58] <dAlfa89_> Did it actually unmount? Was it still visible in Nautilus or such?
[16:58] <dAlfa89_> guitar-maniac, ^
[16:59] <guitar-maniac> dalha89, it isnt visible anymore, when i plug it off after it says its ok, it restarts and all data remowed. i choose the language etc
[16:59] <usr13> dAlfa89_: guitar-maniac You more-than-likely will have to move the file manager off of it before umounting
[17:00] <guitar-maniac> usr13; meaning the banshee? i just close that before or what.. im an noob..
[17:00] <usr13> guitar-maniac: Yes, close it or move it to home etc.
[17:01] <CyL> how do I list the cipher modes supported by cryptsetup?
[17:01] <xzibiz> need help deside what version to download to my ps3
[17:01] <usr13> guitar-maniac: Any application or file manager that is trying to access a device will hamper your ability to un-mount
[17:02] <duckinator> lmao... switching to the software mixer fixed everything ^^
[17:02] <guitar-maniac> usr13: nothing... still restarts. shuold i try to format it?
[17:02] <coz_> duckinator,  which software mixer was that?
[17:02] <usr13> guitar-maniac: restarts?  When?
[17:02] <usr13> guitar-maniac: Not sure what the issue really is...
[17:03] <duckinator> coz_: idk, i uncommented `mixer_type "software"` in mpd.conf
[17:03] <guitar-maniac> usr13: after i disconnect it from my pc. i choose the eject i pod option, then the ipod say, wait, and then when its done, i take it off, and then it just reboots itself
[17:03] <coz_> duckinator,  ah ok  probably now you can control it with alsamixer
[17:03] <slacker_nl> upstart jobs are supposed to stop/start by using service $package start/stop?
[17:03] <coz_> duckinator,  or gnome-alsamixer
[17:04] <usr13> guitar-maniac: That may be due to a power-cycle that occurs when unplugged.
[17:04] <guitar-maniac> usr13: how can i fix that then. any idea?
[17:05] <usr13> guitar-maniac: If the device is drawing power from the USB port's power output and then switches to it's internal battery, there will be power outage so-to-speak, (but I am only speculating)...
[17:05] <usr13> guitar-maniac: Is this when the battery is fully charged, or when it is very low, or...?
[17:06] <guitar-maniac> usr13: the battery is full right now..
[17:07] <xzibiz> what ubuntu version works best on a ps3 system ?
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> !ps3
[17:08] <guitar-maniac> usr13: is there anyway i can format ipod? if it uses the wrong file format? it uses ext2 atm
[17:08] <Manuelgop> hi
[17:08] <usr13> xzibiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> guitar-maniac: gparted should be able to
[17:09] <Manuelgop> Excuse me, i have a question
[17:09] <mrXX> how can i mount my D: drive from ubuntu terminal?
[17:09] <xzibiz> usr13, it's all out of date
[17:09] <Reactor> with wht tool can I scan data for winblows viruses?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | mrXX
[17:09] <hateball> !info clamav | Reactor
[17:10] <Reactor> ty
[17:10] <guitar-maniac> ok, wuold FAT be ok format?
[17:10] <hey_joe> it seems all of my /etc/init.d/ scripts are busted after upgrading to 2.6.31-16, how do i readd all of my /etc/init.d/ scripts?
[17:10] <hey_joe> they all still work, just none start at machine startup now
[17:10] <usr13> xzibiz: May be that support for ps3 is lagging...  There are other systems that make better platforms for Linux than ps3 (ps3 will be pretty limited in capabilities, etc).
[17:11] <hey_joe> is there a command like update-rc.d for all scripts?
[17:12] <linxeh> hey_joe: err ?
[17:12] <Lucider> help all my problems on linux is fixed and i cant find something to waste my time :)
[17:12] <guitar-maniac> gparted wont recognize my ipod..
[17:12] <lex_> guitar-maniac: any specific reason to use fat over another file system?
[17:12] <usr13> xzibiz: The ps3 has a powerful display adapter, but that is about it and I think I recall, the ps3 system had a great deal of it's display adapter capability locked out of the linux install.
[17:12] <utabak> hi all, I am using an external monitor with xrandr, along with my laptop, however from time to time, the laptop display dims and comes back again, dims out again after some time, I use xrandr1.3, btw before the karmic upgrade there was not a problem like this. any ideas?
[17:12] <Lucider> ok , i just wanna be a professonal c++ and python programmer can any one help me ???
[17:12] <hey_joe> linxeh, i dunno what that is..
[17:12] <guitar-maniac> lex_:well not really but ext2 wont seem to work so i though about FAT..
[17:12] <robin0800> Lucider: try songbird for problems!
[17:13] <Lucider> robin0800, hahhaaaa
[17:13] <lex_> guitar-maniac: is this for your ipod?
[17:13] <linxeh> hey_joe: it was a noise
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> hey_joe:  with the move to upstart ,   the update-rc.d command dosent work for all services
[17:13] <guitar-maniac> lex_:yes
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Lucider: its offtopic here
[17:13] <Lucider> robin0800, i use rhythmbox happy
[17:13] <hey_joe> Dr_Willis, i dont believe any of my init.d scripts are running, at least not apache2, and samba4
[17:13] <lex_> guitar-maniac: let me plug mine in quick
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Lucider: try #c++ or #python
[17:13] <Lucider> ActionParsnip, ok
[17:13] <hey_joe> i thought it was uninstalling dkms or something that broke it
[17:13] <guitar-maniac> Lex_:ok
[17:14] <usr13> guitar-maniac: mkdosfs
[17:14] <moldy> hi
[17:14] <Monocian> Which dock-bar are you using?
[17:14] <guitar-maniac> lex:can i send you a PM? wuold be easier to talk
[17:14] <robin0800> Lucider: dons't work with replaygain its a bug I think
[17:14] <Manuelgop> hi
[17:14] <moldy> what is the proper way to remove a PPA from a system?
[17:14] <lex_> guitar-maniac: sure
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Monocian: simdock on my lappy
[17:14] <om26er_> !audio
[17:14] <Manuelgop> i want to install kde from ubuntu 9.10, how can i do that?
[17:14] <moldy> i mean, i installed packages from a ppa, now i want to switch back to the official ubuntu packages again
[17:14] <usr13> guitar-maniac: change partition ID to b FAT32 and do mkdosfs on it.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> moldy: you can use software sources or manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the lines(s) from the file, then run sudo apt-get update
[17:15] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:15] <usr13> guitar-maniac: But I am not sure that is what it is suppose to use.
[17:15] <agent42> utabak: i had similar problem in 9.04, this helped then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/370773
[17:15] <moldy> ActionParsnip: when i do that, i get errors when trying to run dist-upgrade
[17:15] <hey_joe> Dr_Willis, so how do i get all my init.d scripts running again?
[17:15] <utabak> agent42: I am looking for an answer for days, I will see that thx
[17:16] <moldy> ActionParsnip: what i am looking for is how to tell apt to install the official packages again, not the ppa versions
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> moldy: can you give a pastebin of the command: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:16] <Gika> hello
 and with that command, i'm going to have gnome and kde?
[17:16] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: yes
[17:17] <Gika> anyone knows why nautilus says that i have 5 GB of free space while gparted says there's 16, in the same partition?
[17:17] <moldy> ActionParsnip: sure, one second..
[17:17] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: you will chose at the login screen in the Session menu which to boot
[17:17] <aaron11> ok
 oh! thak you! ohh! yeaah! thx
[17:17] <Manuelgop> :D
[17:17] <ubuntu> hhj
[17:18] <parapanghelescu> hi the fellows; I want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 stable version; do you think I should back-up something? I want to upgrade from synaptic ..it's this OK ?
[17:18] <usr13> Gika: df
[17:18] <scunizi> parapanghelescu: always recommended to back up your /home
[17:18] <usr13> Gika: df -h
[17:18] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: backups are always good
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> parapanghelescu: you should have a backup of anything you don't want to lose anyway
[17:19] <moldy> ActionParsnip: sorry, i was wrong, dist-upgrade works fine... but i get errors when trying to reinstall the packages from the ppa
[17:19] <scunizi> Is the cc-gpl license compatible with ubuntu's free software credo?
[17:19] <usr13> Gika: nice to have a second opinion.
[17:19] <Gika> usr13: http://pastebin.ca/1691269
[17:19] <moldy> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f307a3d6b
[17:20] <parapanghelescu> scunizi / IdleOne / ActionParsnip > thanks; Hi again Parsnip > upgrading directly from synaptic is OK ? any troublem I can expect ???
[17:20] <scunizi> parapanghelescu: always plan for the worst and expect the best
[17:20] <lianimator> Is there a UML editor which automatically inherits operators from the parent class?
[17:20] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: use the upgrade manager
[17:20] <parapanghelescu> scunizi :))
[17:21] <IdleOne> err update manager*
[17:21] <hey_joe> i will remove apache2 with update-rc.d, then readd defaults and see if it starts again
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> moldy: i'd reinstall ldm, then remove it and its deps, then remove the ppa
[17:21]  * hey_joe but for the record this sucks
[17:21] <usr13> sudo Gika: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:21] <usr13> Gika: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> moldy: try: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
 yeahh!  already im installing KDE desktop, thxk!
[17:21] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: welcome
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> moldy: also run: sudo apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[17:22] <parapanghelescu> scunizi / idleone - any opinion about the time ? I'm on a lan connection internet speed for package download ....up to 10MBps ....
 what do you think about KDE?
[17:22] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: 1-1.5 hours
[17:22] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: I don't use it
[17:22] <Gika> usr13: http://pastebin.ca/1691273
[17:22] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: I prefer gnome
[17:23] <scunizi> parapanghelescu: a while
 jeje! yeah! mee too, but i want meat KDE jeje xD
[17:23] <moldy> ActionParsnip: apt-get --purge autoremove and apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[17:23] <moldy> ActionParsnip: [...] those seem to have no effect
[17:23] <parapanghelescu> idleone > I was thinking the same ...wish me luck and see ya' in a couple of hours / scunizi ;)
[17:23] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: later :)
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> moldy: looks like you'll need to readd the repo
[17:24] <usr13> Gika: Hummm... that is interesting: 222G - 205G  =  17G
[17:24] <arrogance4000> Hello?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: Must have lots of bad sectors.
[17:25] <Gika> usr13: yeah, but it says there's only 5G left
[17:25] <IdleOne> !hi | arrogance4000
[17:25] <Gika> how do i fix that? fsck?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: unmount and run fsck
[17:25] <moldy> ActionParsnip: i think i can fix this, but i have another question: how do i tell apt to use the ppa for certain packages only?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: I suppose
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> 5% of ext2/3/4 gets 'reserved' also -
[17:25] <usr13> You can also get hdsentinel and see what that says.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> that 5% is tuneable with the tune2fs command Gika  (if thats what the space you are missing)
[17:26] <Gika> usr13: but every 30 reboots (i think) it runs fsck automatically and it never found problems
[17:26] <usr13> Gika: sudo ./hdsentinel
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> moldy: not sure there fella
[17:26] <Gika> trying hdsentinel now
[17:26] <arrogance4000> I have a question, I just recently bought a new computer, not a namebrand computer I built it myself. I downloaded ubuntu on my laptop and burnt it to a CD and put it in my computer. However It doesn't seem to be booting from the CD.. Any thoughts?
[17:26] <moldy> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you
[17:26] <usr13> Gika: May be that the MBR has errors.
[17:26] <Jesper84> arrogance4000: Have you checked your boot settings in the bios?
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  how did you burn it to the cd? the bios is set to boot from the cd?
[17:27] <IdleOne> arrogance4000: change bios to boot from CD first
[17:27] <arrogance4000> I have, it comes up with "Reboot and Select proper Boot Device"
[17:27] <Gika> usr13: hdsentinel is not in the repos, i have to download it somewhere else i guess?
[17:27] <om26er_> !games
[17:27] <arrogance4000> I have my CD rom as the FIRST thing to be checked
[17:27] <usr13> Gika:   fidsk /dev/sda
[17:27] <usr13> Gika:  sudo fidsk /dev/sda
[17:27] <Jesper84> arrogance4000: and as Dr_Willis points out, you should burn the img file to the cd, and not begin unpacking it...
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  how did you burn it to the cd?
[17:27] <IdleOne> !iso
[17:28] <IdleOne> wrong one
[17:28] <usr13> Gika: Run from live CD  fdisk /dev/sda
[17:28] <IdleOne> !burn | arrogance4000
[17:28] <arrogance4000> I downloaded the ISO and used MagicISO to burn it.
[17:28] <parapanghelescu> quit
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> arrogance4000: did you md5 test the iso?
[17:28] <usr13> Gika: http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin.php
[17:28] <MmikeDOMA> How does one restores the 'ubuntu-9.04' boot/login splash screen? is that possible?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  You can use unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive (thats will install faster then a cd) also i perfer the infrarecorder tool to burn iso files.
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  test the cd on a differnet pc - see if it boots there.
[17:29] <arrogance4000> I will look up Unetbootin, I'll be back to you in a bit.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  check the cd also. be sure its not got one big iso file on it :)
[17:30] <Gika> usr13: this is hdsentinel's report http://pastebin.ca/1691288
[17:31] <arrogance4000> I'll be back in a bit, I'm going to try boot the CD off of this laptop and see if it works... Can't believe I never thought of that.. haha
[17:31] <usr13> MmikeDOMA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30341.html
[17:31] <usr13> Gika: Looking
[17:33] <MmikeDOMA> usr13, thnx
[17:33] <usr13> Gika: The drive looks to be in good condition, but the MBR may have some sort of errors.
[17:33] <guitar-maniac> i get an error Cannot get colume.fstype.alternative when i try to plug my ipod in
[17:33] <Gika> usr13: so how do i have fix that?
[17:34] <Gika> might it be related to the fact that i updated from ext3 to ext4 and from grub to grub2 some weeks ago?
[17:34] <usr13> Gika: and I think the live cd of gparted has a utility to repair MBR but not sure...
[17:34] <JoeBlacken> Hi, I'm trying to find a laptop that is 100% compatible with Ubuntu (i.e. hardware drivers including microphone and camera) and available in stores not online, any suggestion?
[17:35] <shadowwulf> what is the command to install ubuntu in a tarminal
[17:35] <usr13> Gika: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[17:35] <mikey> joe, why not run a live version of ubu 9.10 in store and check if all is well?
[17:35] <gidna> HI
[17:36] <Soap> Ok, grown sick of my Asus P5K motherboard and my constant problems with the jmicron PATA chip.  Also tired of my Corsair memory which wants 2.1 volts instead of 1.8 and tosses errors when you look at it wrong.  Tired of RMAing the memory and am going to just write it off.
[17:36] <noisecontrol> hello :)
[17:36] <noisecontrol> I now have 9.10 on 3pcs
[17:36] <Soap> Anyone running a PATA drive on a Gigabyte P45 chipset motherboard?
[17:36] <mka> hi everyone
[17:36] <Gika> usr13: ok i'm trying that but are you sure there's a "fix mbr" option? because i have gparted installed from the repos and i can't see anything like that
[17:36] <om26er_> !anyone | Soap
[17:37] <usr13> Gika: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[17:37] <Nixot> Hello everybody
[17:37] <Burzmali> Is there anyway to enter graphical safe mode with Karmic?
[17:37] <JoeBlacken> mikey, well, I don't think they will allow me to do so, and it takes a very long time.
[17:37] <rain> hy
[17:37] <Nixot> I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04
[17:38] <IdleOne> JoeBlacken: if they wont let you test the machine then you don't want to buy from them
[17:38] <mikey> allow?  Just go browse around and pop in a live cd.  I've done it
[17:38] <mka> Burzmali: sudo init 1
[17:38] <Nixot> and I'm having poblems with Compiz, you see, when I open a 3D game in fullscreen it automatically switches to windowed mode, the mouse stops working until I quit and the display flashes
[17:38] <shadowwulf> what is the command i type in terminal to install ubuntu 9.10
[17:38] <Soap> why sick the bot on me, om26er_?  I don't see where I missteped.
[17:38] <IdleOne> !install | shadowwulf
[17:38] <Burzmali> mka: from login okay?
[17:39] <Nixot> it's really annoying because I don't want to remove compiz because it's so cool :(
[17:39] <Gika> shadowwulf: you mean to upgrade it from a previous version?
[17:39] <usr13> Gika: http://fehu.org/~feyrer/g4u/g4u-2.4.iso
[17:39] <mka> shadowwulf: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:39] <JuJuBee> Something is up with my audio... using Pulse Audio for multimedia settings and now all I get is static from speakers.
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> Nixot:  just disable it befor you play games
[17:39] <Nixot> Err...
[17:39] <mka> Burzmali: no, after you logged in already
[17:39] <om26er_> Soap: it meant ask the real question plz.
[17:39] <shadowwulf> no, i mean a fresh install from a blank hard drive
[17:39] <Nixot> is there a way to do that automatically?
[17:39] <mikey> what is the dif between autoremove and autoclean?
[17:40] <cwill747> So I'm trying to start ubuntu after upgrading to karmic, and It can't find one of my network drives listed in my fdisk. I know it's not there, my computer IP changed that it's trying to get to. But I can't change it. I didn't set a root password, so I can't get in the recover console. What should I do?
[17:40] <JoeBlacken> mikey, there must be someone here with ubuntu on a laptop that Ubuntu run on smoothly and the drivers are available
[17:40] <Nixot> or can I have buttons on my panel to disable and enable compiz?
[17:40] <Burzmali> mka: I know, I mean that I am dropping to a term from the login screen
[17:40] <mka> shadowwulf: get an ISO and burn it on a CD
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> Nixot, Fusionicon
[17:40] <Gika> shadowwulf: you have to download the ISO file, burn a cd/use a usb key and boot from it; check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[17:40] <Nixot> zykoticK9: What is fusionicon?
[17:41] <shadowwulf> i have the CD ... i just dont see a install icon ....
[17:41] <om26er_> Nixot: install it
[17:41] <mikey> I have a dell D520 and it runs well.  My lappy does not havea  camera tho
[17:41] <Gika> thanks usr13 i'm trying that now
[17:41] <om26er_> Nixot: and you can add an applet to the panel
[17:41] <ZykoticK9> Nixot, specifically it's called fusion-icon -- it give a systemtray icon to turn compiz on or off (among other things)
[17:41] <mka> Burzmali: do you want to drop to a term or you are dropping to a terminal?
[17:41] <Nixot> err
[17:41] <Nixot> ohh
[17:41] <soap> om26er_: I do believe I asked the "real" question.
[17:41] <Nixot> good... i tried to install fusionicon and it failed, but fusion-icon is going along fine :D
[17:42] <Nixot> I installed it... now what?
[17:42] <ekkehart> Is there a way to keep processes from entering "disk sleep" mode? Kubuntu Karmic
[17:42] <Nixot> aha!
[17:42] <om26er_> soap: ok sorry if that offended you.
[17:42] <Burzmali> mka: I am dropping via ctl + alt + f1
[17:42] <mka> shadowwulf: Restart your PC while the CD is inserted your PC should pick it up, do not choose to load the live cd, rather choose to Install right away
[17:42] <Nixot> zykoticK9: OK,the icon's there, what do I do with it?
[17:42] <mka> Burzmali: so what is your question?
[17:43] <mka> Burzmali: Isnt that what you wanted?
[17:43] <Nixot> aha!
[17:43] <Nixot> Is metacity the ordinary window manager?
[17:43] <JoeBlacken> mikey, yeah, I can buy directly from dell a ubuntu powered laptop, though it is not 9.10 but it is good, the thing is I want to get it fast, and that one will take around 8 days to ship and probably few more to get here.
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Nixot:  yes
[17:43] <Nixot> Ahh!
[17:43] <Nixot> I think so!
[17:43] <Nixot> Thanks :D
[17:43] <Nixot> That's all,...  bye!
[17:43] <FloodBot4> Nixot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <cwill747> JoeBlacken: have you checked out System76?
[17:43] <JuJuBee> Can someone assist with audio problem?  only get static out of speakers all of a sudden
[17:43] <Burzmali> mka: That command sudo init 1 just got me a static splash screen
[17:43] <shadowwulf> thanks\
[17:43] <stephan> how can i tell the boinc-manager which browser to use?
[17:44] <usr13> Burzmali: What are you wanting to acomplish?
[17:44] <IdleOne> stephan: #boinc
[17:44] <Klausi> (join
[17:44] <mka> Burzmali: first what do you really want to do?
[17:44] <arrogance4000> And I'm back :)
[17:44] <stephan> IdleOne: thx
[17:45] <stephan> #boinc
[17:45] <Burzmali> usr13: I need to enable restricted graphics drivers to get karmic too work.  Ubuntu has always hated my graphics card.
[17:45] <mka> Burzmali: sudo init 1 will try to get you to single user mode (which is called recovery mode sometimes)
[17:45] <om26er_> Burzmali: nvidia?
[17:45] <JoeBlacken> cwill747, yes, but I forgot to check the shipping option, I will check it now
[17:45] <om26er_> Burzmali: ignore me
[17:45] <Burzmali> om26e_: yeah, 7800 gt
[17:45] <cwill747> JoeBlacken: yeah, i don't know anything about it. I was just throwing it out there
[17:45] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   #is probably what you need
[17:45] <too5hort> Hi, ubuntu remix 4 is the same as ubuntu but with more pre installet programs and apps ?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: nvidia loves linux, dude
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Burzmali:  you may want to try 'sudo service kdm stop'
[17:46] <usr13> Burzmali: Using KDE?
[17:46] <cwill747> too5hort: Not really. The remix is for netbooks, and is a lighter version of ubuntu
[17:46] <Burzmali> usr13: no
[17:46] <arrogance4000> Okay, So I tried to see if it would boot on this laptop, and it was a no-go... So I downloaded and installed unetbootin and put it on my USB key. My computer is not sitting at "Checking NVRAM.." and has been for about 2-3 mins now.
[17:46] <usr13> bradpitt: Gnome?
[17:46] <usr13> Burzmali: Gnome?
[17:46] <arrogance4000> Now^
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  sounds like your pc has issues..
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: does: gksudo jockey-gtk   not offer you a driver?
[17:46] <Burzmali> usr13: yes
[17:46] <too5hort> but the installation file is nearly 1gig ?
[17:46] <cwill747> too5hort: If i recall, it actually doesn't have all the applications as the normal version. It's meant to run on a system that has very little memory or a ligher load
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo service kdm stop
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: could use this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:47] <cwill747> too5hort: You are talking about the netbook remix right?
[17:47] <om26er_> my guess is nvidia-glx-173 would be recommended for Burzmali
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: Or something like that..
[17:47] <Egbert9000> sometimes clicking on things doesn't work
[17:48]  * Dr_Willis tries to teach people to start using 'sudo service' :) the use of init.d  scripts are slowly getting phased out
[17:48] <matswapati> i just installed karmic and i get 'bus error' when trying to launch programs that were not included by default, like skype and anki
[17:48] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks infol
[17:48] <Egbert9000> i have to press right mouse button
[17:48] <Egbert9000> then a menu comes out not in the context of where i'm pressing
[17:48] <too5hort> cwill474: hm as i live in sweden, i got to ubuntu.se and there i read about the new ubuntu remix 4.0 and they say that it comes preinstalled with many hande programs so you can play mp3 etc from the beginning, kind of for more new to linux users, but when i youtubed it, i just got to se the stuff for netbooks
[17:48] <Egbert9000> only where i've previously pressed
[17:48] <Burzmali> usr13: kdm: unrecognized service
[17:49] <usr13> Burzmali: That might be because you are running gnome instead of kde  (gdm is gnome, kdm is kde)
[17:49] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo service gdm stop
[17:50] <Egbert9000> it seems similar to this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-March/030675.html
[17:50] <ranjan> hello ever y body i am having an very strange problem i am trying to delete an folder from an ntfs partition of my hard disk i am not able to do so where as when i tried to delete other folder it is possible to do so i am having all the require plug-in installed on my system an i am geat-ing an error msg as "Error removing file: No such file or directory" so can any body on this network can help me to fix out  the problem
[17:50] <LjL> too5hort, an "ubuntu remix" is a term for any distribution that's ubuntu with modified default packages. it doesn't tells us *which* remix you're using. also, such versions are not really official or supported
[17:50] <ardchoille> I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager and would like to be able to access the apps menu from an icon or button - my desktop is usually filled. Any way to do that?
[17:51] <usr13> ranjan: See how you have the partition mounted # cat /etc/fstab
[17:51] <Burzmali> usr13: I'm pulling down the driver now
[17:51] <agent42> too5hort: i think it is a Swedish remix: "Ubuntu.se Remix 4.0"
[17:51] <usr13> ranjan: pastebin /etc/fstab   #if you want us to see
[17:51] <om26er_> !test
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:   there may be some 'xdg' tools to generate a windowmaker compatiable menu config, or you could run the gnome-panel  and have full access to the panel/gnome menus and stuff
[17:51] <usr13> Burzmali: What are you installing?
[17:51] <too5hort> LjL: Ah thanks for the update, but if i install it, i can still update it to a new ubuntu version, if its released, it just comes with more pre-installed packages?
[17:52] <LjL> too5hort: if it *only* comes with packages from the official Ubuntu repositories, i guess you can.
[17:52] <Burzmali> nvidia_glx_173
[17:52] <usr13> !nvidia | Burzmali
[17:52] <Guest95092> when i tried to add medibuntu repository its saying "public key is not available"
[17:52] <LjL> too5hort: but i'd recommend using the official version of Ubuntu, really.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: does it show in terminal?
[17:52] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Hmm.. running the gnome panel would cover my iconbar I think
[17:52] <wbc> Is it okay to ask for something that is linux related but that not goes under ubuntu OS
[17:52] <ardchoille> I'll have a look at the xdg stuff
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  you could make it auto hide.
[17:52] <LjL> wbc: not quite... try ##linux
[17:52] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Oh, that's a nice idea :)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173     then reboot
[17:52] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: ya
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: what if you delete it there?
[17:53] <too5hort> LjL: Ah okey well thanks for the answers man ;)
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  ive not used windowmaker in ages. :)
[17:53] <Burzmali> usr13 Actionparship: no luck, graphics still corrupt at login.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: do you use a crt monitor?
[17:53] <usr13> Burzmali: What does it look like?
[17:53] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: i have not tried it  via comand
[17:54] <ranjan> i am not awear of that command
[17:54] <Burzmali> ActionParship: No lcd
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: you'll get better outputs
[17:54] <usr13> Burzmali: What monitor?
[17:54] <om26er_> Burzmali: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-* && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: i can give you my xorg.conf which may help
[17:54] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: which command should i use
[17:54]  * om26er_ says that sometimes older drivers work better
[17:54] <Burzmali> usr13: Click on username, get colorful lines below.  Always fixed before by installing restricted
[17:54] <ranjan> rm
[17:55] <usr13> Burzmali: Try what om26er_ says...
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: you need to use 'cd' to change directory to the place where thefile resides
[17:55] <ranjan> ok
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: then use: rm -rf folder_name
[17:55] <Guest95092> how to add medibuntu repository?
[17:55] <cj> hey all
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | Guest95092
[17:56] <cj> I'm looking to get a new laptop.  how well is the new lenovo hardware supported?
[17:56] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's in the mounted reive partision
[17:56] <ardchoille> !hcl | cj
[17:56] <Burzmali> usr13: Will do, who's bright idea was it to get rid of safe mode?
[17:56] <usr13>  !repositories | Guest95092
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> cj:  thers a few forum threads that focus on that brand i recall
[17:56] <usr13> Burzmali: I dono, wasn't mine.... :_)
 then how to add if i want to add them?
[17:57] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's in the mounted partision so should i go with sudo
[17:57] <usr13> Burzmali: You can always boot to linux single
[17:57] <cj> Dr_Willis: which brand?
[17:58] <Burzmali> usr13: how?
[17:58] <italo> ciao a tutti,
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> cj:  levno
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: sure, just access wherever it is
[17:59] <cj> Dr_Willis: ah, thanks
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> cj:  im to poor to afford one. :)
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest95092: the page tells you how in the repo guide
[17:59] <Burzmali> usr13: It'd be real nice to just get the VESA drivers in there for 15 minutes grrr
[17:59] <Rods_Tiger> Why do I keep having to give my password each time I want to update the software on my Ubuntu computer? Isn't that a bit like worrying that burglars will break in and do the washing up and vacuum the carpets?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  system tasks need password.. plain and simple..
[17:59] <mikerose357> anyone with a recent ati that has a stable experience and runs games and compiz?
[17:59] <Rods_Tiger> no they don't
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  theres tools to set up auto dateing.
[18:00] <Burzmali> om26e_: no luck
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  check out sudoers configing and tweak it if you want
[18:00] <allowoverride> question - i have an intel 64 bit cpu, with the 64 bit amd iso work on it? new to 64 bit platform. thanks
[18:00] <allowoverride> will the..
[18:00] <Rods_Tiger> it's my computer, I'm here, nobody else is, there's absolutely no requirement for checking my passport and papers
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  then disable the password stuff.. because you are a single user.. dosent mean I want that  to be the default on my pc, or my work servers..
[18:01] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's not working with that comand and nither it is giving any error msg...
[18:01] <gRaCiOsO> Can i install ubuntu and after windows?
[18:01] <Rods_Tiger> how do I disable all password related stuff? get rid of the password itself, or is there a different way of hiding it?
[18:01] <trism> Burzmali: you can still get vesa mode...just replace nvidia with vesa in xorg.conf...or if you mean on the live cd, if you press f4 (I think) you can select safe graphics mode before booting into the live environment
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  check the 'sudoers' system/command/configs is one way. theres also services/tools i recall that can auto-install updates if thats all you are worried about
[18:02] <Rods_Tiger> ok, ta
[18:02] <mikerose357> gRaCiOsO windows will screw up the bootloader
[18:02] <mikerose357> meaning you then have to reinstall it
[18:02] <Rods_Tiger> it doesn't even have an account in my name - the user account is called 'user' and the password is 'password' - and that's tedious enough
[18:02]  * jackey please help me ,how to use naim
[18:02] <gRaCiOsO> mikerose357,  and how to get it again?
[18:03] <cj> Dr_Willis: I know the feeling.  :)
[18:03] <krabador>  /join #linux-it
[18:03] <usr13> Burzmali:  You will probably find xorg.conf.failsafe or something like that with Driver "vesa" in it and you can just switch to it.
[18:04] <tapas> hi, i disabled all sound events in gnome and even uninstalled pulseaudio :)
[18:04] <usr13> Burzmali:  cd /etc/X11 ; sudo mv xorg.conf.falesafe xorg.conf
[18:04] <tapas> firefox still insists on creating a sound when poppoing up some dialogs
[18:04] <tapas> how to turn that off?
[18:04] <tapas> the menu is as unhelpful as ever
[18:04] <Burzmali> usr13: no xorg.conf files present
[18:04] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's not working with that comand and nither and it is not giving any error msg...
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> tapas:  well.. if you had kept pulse audio installed.. it has a feature to configure 'sound volumes' on a per app basis i recall.. but since you removeed pulse.. :) no idea.
[18:05] <allowoverride> gRaCiOsO: yes you can
[18:05] <ranjan> so is there any solution
[18:05] <tapas> Dr_Willis: hehe :)
[18:05] <usr13> Burzmali: xdebconfigurator - A script used with debconf to autoconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:06] <usr13> !xdebconfigurator
[18:06] <trism> Burzmali: try nvidia-xconfig to generate one if you don't have it
[18:07] <usr13> Burzmali: Yes, try trism's suggestion first
[18:07] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: should i post an bug report for this problem
[18:08] <usr13> Burzmali: You might also find nvidia-installer which might have the nvidia-xconfig as a part of it.
[18:08] <zilla1> usr13, ok one of my drives has a health of 16%, and Est. Lifetime of 45 days. that says to me HD failure. I'll get rid of it. but my main drive is at 100%, and there is a slow boot issue when I have just that one in
[18:08] <wes32> hi. i'm hoping to enable thumbnails only in specific folders, preferably by storing the created thumbnail files inside the specific folders included for thumbnail creation (and not ~/.thumbnails). is any part of this possible?
[18:08] <Timmymayes> If i want to use Dolphin as my default file manager how would i change the links in the Places section of my panel
[18:09] <wes32> this is on gnome 2.28/ubuntu 9.10
[18:09] <Pelo> !pastebin
[18:09] <om26er_> if i format a my memory stick from my psp ubuntu won't read it and gives the error. http://imagebin.org/73282
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Timmymayes:  i belive setting that up is a bit complex sadly. ive seen some guides on doing it. and you had to change several files
[18:09] <om26er_> and if i format memory stick from ubuntu then psp won't read it
[18:09] <allowoverride> anyone here good with beryl or compiz or equivalent window manager. i am purchasing a new laptop with nvidia card, and would like some links if possible or a heads up prior to installing ubuntu on it. anyone?
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:  format it to be fat32/fat16 and it should.
[18:10] <om26er_> Dr_Willis: tried both
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:   the default cards are fat32 from what i recall.   but i no longer haave a PSP so cant check
[18:11] <om26er_> Dr_Willis: psp formats it to fat16
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:  that will be a issue with people playing their huge video files :) but  sony knows best.. (yea sure they do)
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:11] <usr13> zilla1: That may very well be the problem.  I had a PC once that had a bad slave drive drive and it was trying to boot but just didn't seem up to the task, but when I un-plugged that drive it booted fine.  (When I took the cover off, I could hear that the drive was noisy as it booted, and that was the clue that told me it was a HD problem)
[18:11] <nocleader> I'm trying to use dhcp3 server on one one of my ethernet cards but I can't get no joy.  Server starts normally but does not pass out any addresses.  I can config a host with a static IP and that works ... just no dhcp:)
[18:12] <Guest95092> when i run apt-get update i am getting the error public key not available :NO_PUBKEY 57B0CE6D09827771
[18:12] <trism> om26er_: I always just plug the psp in with a usb cord and go to Settings/USB Connection...works fine
[18:12] <usr13> nocleader: Sure..  Just use an IP that is outside dhcpd's pool
[18:13] <nocleader> Perhaps I can get a fresh set of eyes on this ?   http://pastebin.org/58165
[18:13] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: i have found an one pecilure thing on my system :: i removed an multimedia file from  mounted drive from grafics mode but's it's entries are yeat present in comand proment   ifound it when i used ls
[18:13] <nocleader> user13 Yes, that's how i did the static just to verify my cabling.
[18:13] <om26er_> trism: one memory card works and the other don't but both worked in a friends winxp system
[18:14] <trism> om26er_: strange, I have 3 different cards and they all work
[18:14] <usr13> nocleader: So it is just not getting IP information from the DHCP server when you boot?
[18:14] <om26er_> trism: and also didn't work on fedora on my brothers pc. so maybe something with kernel?
[18:15] <nocleader> user13 Hmmm did not try a boot ... just a release and renew ... lemme try that
[18:15] <Timmymayes> Dr_Willis: its actually quite easy... just modify /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop and change one line from Exec=nautilus to Exec=dolphin
[18:15] <Alinn> Hi
[18:15] <Timmymayes> thank you google
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: No need for that
[18:16] <om26er_> !hi | Alinn
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: You can just do dhclient.
[18:16] <Rods_Tiger> is there any way that an installation of ubuntu on a usb hard drive can detect whether it's connected to a netbook or a big computer, and start UNR or the other ubuntu appropriately?
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: But look at /etc/network/interfaces and see what it is set to.
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[18:16] <Alinn> I have a problem with Grub. when i type sudo update-grub output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/330462/
[18:17] <Alinn> om26er_: :)
[18:18] <Burzmali> usr13: Checking the bug reports, it looks like stuff got broken with karmic for the 7800 gt, yeah
[18:18] <vashitn> does ubuntu works on a touchscreen
[18:18] <nocleader> user13 I don't want to flood ... its in http://pastebin.org/58165
[18:18] <mka> Hi
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, gute question
[18:19] <mka> I cannot configure my PC for any type of wireless network connection
[18:19] <vashitn> livingdaylight what
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, your question is good
[18:19] <zilla1> mka, what is your wireless device?
[18:19] <duckinator> Where do i set what daemons are automatically started?... (used to /etc/rc.d on other systems, so i'm completely lost :P)
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, to some degree
[18:19] <vashitn> livingdaylight will the screen work>>
[18:19] <mka> zilla1: it's "00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)"
[18:20] <livingdaylight> vashitn, there are some issues, like calibration for example
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: i don't know how to do that either, but maybe /etc/init.d could be related?
[18:20] <Alinn> sudo update-grub not work for me! http://paste.ubuntu.com/330462/ what i do ?
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: check in there
[18:20] <duckinator> racecar56: that's the actual scripts to start them, i'm not seeing how to automatically start them though :(
[18:20] <zilla1> mka, that looks like you pulled it out of the lspci output. Is it in fact listed when you run that command?
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: that's what i thought.
[18:20] <mka> zilla1: yes I did
[18:21] <vashitn> livingdaylight so no>>
[18:21] <vashitn> ??
[18:21] <racecar56> duckinator: (that's what i thought /etc/init.d was)
[18:21] <zilla1> mka : I am assuming there isn't a linux driver for that wireless device. Have you installed ndiswrapper?
[18:21] <Rods_Tiger> in UNR, how do I rearrange the order of icons?
[18:21] <aar> Hi, is it possible to send an encoded (e.g. base64) attachment by telnet mail using the terminal?
[18:21] <zilla1> mka : that's both the ndiswrapper-common package, and the ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 package, I believe
[18:22] <livingdaylight> vashitn, calibrating the touch interface so it knows where you touched. there are plans to fix it in 10.04
[18:22] <mka> zilla1: let me try
[18:22] <duckinator> racecar56: should've guessed, ubuntu is still using debian-style stuff, /etc/rc?.d (/etc/rc0.d -> /etc/rc6.d + /etc/rcS.d)
[18:22] <Alinn> om26er_: do you know how i solve my problem?
[18:22] <duckinator> now if only i'd ever bothered learning how to use it...
[18:23] <livingdaylight> vashitn, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-touchscreen-handling
[18:23] <om26er_> Alinn: i don't even know the problem
[18:23] <vashitn> what is Cache HDD is missing livingdaylight
[18:23] <cankoy> Alinn: what's in file  /boot/grub/device.map
[18:23] <mka> zilla1: I cannot get your packages from apt-cache search
[18:23] <livingdaylight> vashitn, ich weiss nicht
[18:23] <racecar56> duckinator: the only experience i've ever had with the stuff is (re)starting/stopping daemons in /etc/init.d
[18:23] <usr13> nocleader: You need the interface you are using to connect to the dhcp server to be set to auto  i.e. auto eth0
[18:24] <Alinn> cankoy: (hd0)	/dev/sda
[18:24] <vashitn> what is Cache HDD is missing ??
[18:24] <vashitn> is it bad :D
[18:24] <zilla1> mka, open up synaptic and search for ndiswapper. it'll list some similar stuff. lemme know if it doesn't; then we'll check your sources
[18:24] <Slart> vashitn: you tell us.. is it an error message? a mail from somewhere? something a friend told you?
[18:24] <usr13> nocleader: You can use network-admin to set it to auto (or dhcp)
[18:24] <mka> zilla1: besides this, wasnt my card supposed to be autodetected by the sytem?
[18:24] <cankoy> Alinn: you're using grub2, right?
[18:25] <Alinn> cankoy: yes ubuntu9.10
[18:25] <zilla1> mka, not necessarily. ndiswrapper isn't even on the install CD, so if your card isnt natively supported, then it can't be automatically setup
[18:25] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:25] <racecar56> hi
[18:26] <sebsebseb> racecar56: hi
[18:26] <om26er_> sebsebseb: sebsebseb=seb128?
[18:26] <sebsebseb> om26er_: no
[18:26]  * NaxoneZ pira
[18:26] <Chris-Mouse> anyone here able to give me a pointer to how I can force modules to load in a particular order?
[18:26]  * racecar56  
[18:27] <usr13> nocleader: It might be gnome-network-admin
[18:27] <om26er_> ok
[18:27] <DasEi> Chris-Mouse: /etc/modules
[18:27] <Slart> Chris-Mouse: not sure if it works this way any more.. but you can have a look at the udev-rules.. perhaps there is some kind of setting there
[18:27] <duckinator> racecar56: i like the BSD style daemon system (ArchLinux, Slackware, *BSD, etc) so much more than upstart (Debian + Ubuntu only, iirc).. but it's for a desktop - not a server, so it's all good :P
[18:27] <Rods_Tiger> there's just no way of re-ordering what's in favourites on UNR
[18:27] <qwyeth> OK, so I'm a MIDI n00b, but I got my controller to talk to LMMS.  I push keys and LMMS makes sound.  Except about 1/5 of the time I hear ugly static noise instead of notes.
[18:28] <usr13> !info network-admin
[18:28] <duckinator> bbl
[18:28] <trijntje> Rods_Tiger, drag and drop
[18:28] <usr13> !info gnome-network-admin
[18:28] <Alinn> cankoy: :-[
[18:28] <cankoy> Alinn: did you edit grub.cfg yourself?
[18:28] <Rods_Tiger> trintje - I've been trying that for weeks - all it does is keep starting up the apps
[18:28] <DasEi> usr13: network-manager?
[18:29] <nocleader> usr13 It is set to auto : auto eth1
[18:29] <nocleader> iface eth1 inet static
[18:29] <usr13> DasEi: Yes.. Thank you.
[18:29] <Alinn> cankoy: غثس
[18:29] <Alinn> cankoy: yes
[18:29] <trism> qwyeth: perhaps check out http://www.pubbs.net/linuxaudio/200910/16098/
[18:30] <cankoy> Alinn: you're not supposed to edit that file
[18:30] <DasEi> nocleader: ,usr 13: or manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:30] <cankoy> !grub2 > Alinn
[18:30] <solexious> Does any one know of a guide for buying nvidia cards for ubuntu? I'm a bit lost
[18:30] <diddy> I am about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in 5 mins. Is it possible to have an extra partition that is not home?
[18:30] <wes32> i'm hoping to enable thumbnails only in specific folders, preferably by storing the created thumbnail files inside the specific folders included for thumbnail creation (and not ~/.thumbnails). is any part of this possible? (ubuntu 9.10/gnome 2.28)
[18:30] <DasEi> !hardware | solexious
[18:30] <usr13> nocleader: So what happens when you issue command:  sudo dhclient eth0
[18:30] <racecar56> i think ubuntu's software center is a very good feature.
[18:30] <diddy> I need a partition that can not fill up no matter how much stuff users save in the /home dir
[18:30] <Slart> diddy: you can set it up almost any way you want it
[18:31] <racecar56> good addition to make 9.10 even more aweome.
[18:31] <racecar56> *awesome
[18:31] <racecar56> :)
[18:31] <diddy> Slart, but what do I choose then?
[18:31] <solexious> DasEi: Many thanks
[18:31] <diddy> As a mount point I mean.
[18:31] <DasEi> np
[18:31] <Slart> diddy: manual partition or whatever it's called
[18:31] <allowoverride> anyone here good with beryl or compiz or equivalent window manager. i am purchasing a new laptop with nvidia card, and would like some links if possible or a heads up prior to installing ubuntu on it. anyone?
[18:31] <Chris-Mouse> SL/etc/modules doesn't mention the modules I'm having problems with. I'm getting warnings in my boot messages that ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after
[18:31] <Alinn> cankoy: i not understand what you say
[18:31] <trijntje> Rods_Tiger, thats strange, in that case i dont know, sorry
[18:31] <Chris-Mouse> so how do I change that load order?
[18:31] <Slart> diddy: my hard drives end up in /media/disk1 /media/disk2 and so on
[18:31] <Alinn> cankoy: :-[
[18:31] <josvuk> dukz: Do you had the problems with the live ISo for ppc?
[18:31] <diddy> Slart, and the mount point will be? I think there is only, swap, home, /, etc to choose from. Isn't there?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I think at the moment it isn't that great really,  but it will replace Synaptic later on as well
[18:32] <Slart> diddy: nope.. you can select anything you want if you select the manual partition thingy
[18:32] <cankoy> Alinn: read the wiki about Grub2, and how to properly configure it. Something you've misconfigured.
[18:32] <josvuk> dukz: recently
[18:32] <diddy> Slart, OK.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it's a good replacement.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it's terribly simplified.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: :)
[18:32] <usr13> nocleader: sudo dhclient eth1
[18:32] <nocleader> usr13:  It binds eth0 to 192.168.1.222 the static address its supposed to be ... lemme try eth1
[18:32] <sebsebseb> racecar56: also later on you will be able to buy some commercial apps from it, or well that's the plan
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: though usually i'm the person who likes the terminal :)
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: thought so.
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: is it written in C or what?
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I don't know
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ,but it will become an important part of Ubuntu I think
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'll find out...
[18:33] <raistlin_M> hola WENAS
[18:33] <usr13> nocleader: So which one are you using to connect with?  sudo mii-tool
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm sure it wil.
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: sorry for my spelling :P
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: the wiki page for it is good, the rationale is interesting
[18:34] <scunizi> Is there a gui conversion tool in the repos for .3gp files? (cell phone video)
[18:34] <josvuk> How to set up internet conection? I upgraded to karmic since then I can't open a dsl network. It apears only a notification which says I am now offline. Can someone Help me
[18:34] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i like how it waits for other package managers to finish instead of confusing the user by saying LOCK blah blah blah
[18:34] <raistlin_M> hay españoles por aki
[18:34] <Slart> !es | raistlin_M
[18:34] <josvuk> I set all data correctly in the networkmanager I think
[18:34] <usr13> josvuk: Is the cable good?
[18:34] <nocleader> user13 sudo dhclient eth1 does a bunch of discovers and says no dhcpoffers recieved
[18:35] <diddy> I want to use encrypted LVM. My hard disk is 400 GB.  I was thinking about this: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB. But how large should I make the swap partition? I am planning to have 8 GB of RAM in total.
[18:35] <brad_> HEY! Are there any GAY Guys who wanna chat in room PHILOS!?
[18:35] <usr13> nocleader:  sudo mii-tool
[18:35] <nocleader> usr13 eth1 is the interface I'm interested in
[18:35] <usr13> nocleader: You must be connected to eth0 instead of eth1
[18:35] <josvuk> usr13: Yes it is good. I am now online with it but on a different computer
[18:35] <allowoverride> !boot brad_
[18:35] <allowoverride> lol
[18:35] <Iowan> !ot | brad
[18:35] <brad_> Huh?
[18:35] <usr13> josvuk: ifconfig
[18:35] <brad_> So room philos
[18:36] <_Pb> is there any reason my ~/.xinitrc or .xsession wouldn't be parsed?
[18:36] <usr13> nocleader: What is eth0 ?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[18:36] <nocleader> usr13 mii-tool shows eth0 and eth1 are both up
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: python
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: :D
[18:36] <josvuk> usr13: ifconfig don't reports me any error eth0 is listed properly
[18:36] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB <- that's stupid
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: what's the :D for?
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: me likes python.
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Python that does not suprise me, apparantly loads of Ubuntu is written in that
[18:36] <oscar> :D
[18:37] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm still a bit rusty at it but i like it
[18:37] <usr13> josvuk: sudo dhclient
[18:37] <nocleader> usr13 eth0 is the usual LAN interface on my LAN; eth1 is a 2nd interface I'm using to test dhcp server
[18:37] <usr13> josvuk: You do have a dhcp server running, right?
[18:37] <Halitech> diddy, /boot may or may not be needed as a seperate partition, / shouldn't need anymore then 8-10gig, swap go for 8gig
[18:37] <nocleader> yes, it runs and with no errors... I've restarted it a few times
[18:37] <trism> _Pb: the new gdm in karmic ignores them
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: Are you running dhcp server on that machine?
[18:38] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Python is a good first proggramming language!
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: You know, you can only have one dhcp server on a network?
[18:38] <Rods_Tiger> is there any way of switching between UNR and ordinary ubuntu?
[18:38] <_Pb> trism: ah. i'm using dwm and want to use xsetroot or feh to change my background
[18:38] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it is.
[18:38] <valan> gdm will normally ignore xsession or xinitrc unless you specify it
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: If you have two, you really need to turn one off.
[18:39] <josvuk> usr13: dhclient says : send packet: network is down . what does this mean?
[18:39] <usr13> nocleader: I'm sorry, but have lost track of what you are trying to accomplish.
[18:39] <Alinn> cankoy: I did this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296225
[18:39] <usr13> josvuk: It means that the dhcp server is not responding to that interface's request for IP info.
[18:40] <nocleader> user13 Ok crap one dhcp is on eth0    I put dhcp3 server on just eth1 ... thats what I'm trying to do
[18:40] <racecar56> sebsebseb: yay working menus :) it was worth wiping off my hacked debian lenny install
[18:40] <usr13> josvuk: It is not receiving any signals from the cable.
[18:40] <racecar56> sebsebseb: yay its done fetching all those programs
[18:41] <usr13> josvuk: Make sure the connectors are plugged in securely.
[18:41] <bradley> HEY, are there ANY GAY guys who wanna chat in room  SHELL? If u are a gay guy, go to room shell
[18:41] <Burzmali> usr13: nvidia-xconfig seems to have fixed the problem, yeah
[18:41] <nocleader> usr13 ... No that can't be it I'd get wrong IP's on eth1 ... I get NO IP's on eth1 ... OK OK I'll shut the other off temp to see if that makes a difference )
[18:41] <Alinn> cankoy: Thanks a lot :)
[18:41] <josvuk> usr13: The two computers are connectet to a switch, so should I quit my internet conection and try dhclient again?
[18:41] <usr13> Burzmali: Very good!  :)
[18:41] <Slart> !ops | bradley, we've already told you
[18:42] <BluesKaj> no gay trolling here,pls bradley
[18:42] <sebsebseb> racecar56: If you put something about Debian before, I didn't  see/read it, since I only joined in here a little while ago
[18:42] <nocleader> usr13  and all ... thanks for the help ... I'll take this up later
[18:42] <bradley> Ok
[18:42] <bradley> Bye
[18:42] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i never mentioned.
[18:42] <racecar56> :)
[18:42] <nocleader> usr13 bye
[18:42] <nocleader> bye
[18:42] <nocleader> bye
[18:42] <sebsebseb> racecar56: hacked Debian lenny install?  You mean like with packages that are quite a lot later or something?
[18:42] <FloodBot4> nocleader: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <usr13> josvuk: And what is that switch connected to?  Is it just connected directly to the DSL modem?
[18:42] <racecar56> sebsebseb: no.
[18:42] <usr13> nocleader: ok, sorry I could not solve your problem.
[18:43] <josvuk> usr13: Yes it is connectet directly to the dsl modem.
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: missing menu entries, firefox took a while to start (now it seems to open INSTANTLY)
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm using gnome, previously i was using KDE 3
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: want to go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[18:43] <SandGorgon> racecar56, use chromium browser.. ull love it
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: nah
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i've used it before.
[18:44] <usr13> josvuk: Ok, that is the problem.  The DSL modem will only allow one connection from one PC. You will need to disconnect the other one.  Alternately you can get a router and put it in between the 2 PCs and the DSL modem.
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i don't really like it.
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i like my fast firefox now :)
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: previously i had to use some browser like konqueror -_-
[18:44] <solexious> I can use 32 bit ubuntu on a system with 8gigs of memory cant I?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I don't like off topic that much,  plus a pm got started, but you ended up chatting mainly in here, which your not really meant to do, for off topic stuff
[18:44] <usr13> josvuk: Connect the router's WAN port to the DSL modem and connect the two PCs to LAN ports.
[18:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: above  I meant the room
[18:45] <racecar56> sebsebseb: k.
[18:45] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'll just use PM instead, k?
[18:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ok
[18:46] <bradley> Do u guys know where I can post this??HEY, are there ANY GAY guys who wanna chat in room  SHELL? If u are a gay guy, go to room shell
[18:46] <xorred> kubuntu 9.10, lost sound yesterday, no error messages or anything indicating any problem - just lost sound... where do I look for logs?
[18:46] <sebsebseb> bradley: are you trolling?
[18:46] <Alan502> just a quick question, i cant remember where the repositories list is in ubutu, where is it?
[18:46] <bradley> Bye!
[18:46] <usr13> josvuk: Something like this will do the trick:  http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Linksys-EtherFast-BEFSR41-Router_W0QQitemZ320452176262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Routers?hash=item4a9c702986
[18:46] <trijntje> bradley, please stop posting that here, try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[18:46] <dAlfa89_> That guy's getting annoying...
[18:46] <IndianThrilla> hello all
[18:47] <usser> Alan502, /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <scunizi> sebsebseb: he's been trolling for a while..
[18:47] <Alan502> thanks usser :D
[18:47] <BluesKaj> yes he is , !trolling
[18:47] <IndianThrilla> does anyone know how to setup input for Japanese language?
[18:47] <microlith> IndianThrilla: what ubuntu version
[18:47] <IndianThrilla> 9.10
[18:47] <microlith> one sec
[18:48] <diddy> llutz, why is /home = 100 GB stupid?
[18:48] <IndianThrilla> everything i've found on the forums doesn't seem to work for me
[18:48] <seanicus> Hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my family's screen, but trepare partitions step is blank
[18:48] <scunizi> IndianThrilla: in Firefox?
[18:48] <microlith> scunizi: I think he means OS-wide
[18:48] <goku> what is up with the CDburning in 9.10??
[18:48] <sebsebseb> scunizi: Now I saw some of that when looking at things that were just put
[18:48] <microlith> (but that's just me)
[18:48] <josvuk> usr13: Hm, but I need only one internet connection at the same time per pc, so my solution with the switch should also work, and it worked with jaunty only after upgrading to karmic I have problems :-(
[18:48] <IndianThrilla> for any program in general
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB<- that's stupid
[18:49] <IndianThrilla> it worked on 8.10 but now that I upgraded, japanese input stopped working
[18:49] <diddy> llutz, why?
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB <- that's stupid
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: sry
[18:49] <daftykins> seanicus: sounds like setup is failing to detect your hard disk(s) - what output do you get from "sudo fdisk -l" in terminal?
[18:49] <diddy> llutz ??
[18:49] <goku> what does CDburning in 9.10 do differently that nothing can read my disks???
[18:49] <Slart> llutz: stupid? why is that stupid?
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: even if you really need /boot, it should be 1-2G
[18:49] <diddy> llutz, too much ? too little?
[18:49] <microlith> IndianThrilla: ouch, upgrades are risky. If you go System->Administration->Language support, all the config for it is in there
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: 21M     /boot/
[18:50] <diddy> llutz, 1-2 GB? Why so much?
[18:50] <seanicus> daftykins: I get no output
[18:50] <llutz> diddy: ^ that's mine (not on own partition)
[18:50] <josvuk> usr13: Anyway thanky, and bye I have to logout of the chanel and try than dhclient
[18:50] <usser> llutz, well if you want to run different kernels and such 300mb is not such a bad idea
[18:50] <daftykins> seanicus: then it's not detecting any drives - what OS was on the system before?
[18:50] <goku> is there a known issue with the CDburning software in 910???????
[18:50] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  yeah I checked all that.  Japanese language is on but SCIM doesn't show the scim-anthy option which should allow Japanese language input
[18:50] <usr13> josvuk: Is it a switch or a router?
[18:50] <llutz> usser: most likely you don't even need extra /boot
[18:50] <usser> llutz, true that
[18:50] <seanicus> daftykins: vista.  But they crashed it, which is why I'm installing ubuntu
[18:50] <usr13> josvuk: What type of dsl modem is it?  Is it a DLS modem/router ?
[18:51] <daftykins> seanicus: what kind of computer is it?
[18:51] <usr13> josvuk: If it worked before, it should work again....
[18:51] <seanicus> daftykins: as in, it doesn't even go to windows
[18:51] <josvuk> usr13: It is a 5 port switch. :-)
[18:51] <DasEi> goku: which one ?
[18:51] <seanicus> daftykins: hp
[18:51] <diddy> llutz, I will use an encrypted LVM, that means I need an extra boot partition
[18:51] <usr13> What is the DSL router?
[18:51] <goku> the system burning software and brasero software both burn CDs that i can't read
[18:51] <DasEi> !burn | goku
[18:51] <goku> why?
[18:51] <scunizi> josvuk: a switch is not a router.. but a router can act like a switch
[18:51] <microlith> IndianThrilla: I wonder if it has something to do with this iBus stuff
[18:51] <usr13> josvuk: What model?
[18:51] <daftykins> seanicus: do you know what type of hard disk(s) are in the system? how old is it? are they SATA?
[18:51] <IndianThrilla> microlith: iBus?
[18:52] <DasEi>  goku : k3b caused no errors here
[18:52] <microlith> IndianThrilla: yeah, seems to be something new in 9.10
[18:52]  * microlith hasn't used it much
[18:52] <seanicus> daftykins: we got it last christmas.  I dont know how to find type of harddrive or whatever SATA is
[18:52] <goku> is it burning in a different format?
[18:52] <goku> i can read it on my system here
[18:52] <usr13> josvuk:  Does that 5 port switch have a port labled "WAN"?
[18:52] <goku> its just that nothing else can
[18:52] <daftykins> seanicus: you could open it up if you feel confident - what's your hardware and software experience like?
[18:52] <josvuk> usr13: D-Link DGS 1005D
[18:52] <__dean__> goku: do it the manual way
[18:52] <seanicus> daftykins: I am not confident at all.
[18:53] <xorred> kubuntu 9.10, lost sound yesterday, no error messages or anything indicating any problem - just lost sound... where do I look for logs?
[18:53] <diddy> I want to install 8GB of RAM and will install the 64bit version of Ubuntu 9.10 now. Does that mean I should make the swap space 16 GB?
[18:53] <seanicus> I have no hardware experiences
[18:53] <microlith> IndianThrilla: yeah System->Preferences->iBus Preferences
[18:53] <Slart> diddy: I'm not sure why using 300Mb for /boot would be stupid.. at the moment I use about 30 Mb on my boot.. 300 sounds reasonable.. a little space to spare but not too much
[18:53] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  oooohhh... just did a check on iBus.  I guess that might be the problem
[18:53] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  Thanks... I'll check that out.
[18:53] <DasEi> xorred: alsa unmuted ?  (/var/log/syslog)
[18:53] <xorred> unmuted, yes
[18:53] <microlith> I guess that means ubuntu replaced scim
[18:53] <__dean__> goku: genisoimage -J
[18:53] <diddy> Slart, yes I also have about 200 MB now. And I believe the kernels do not decrease in size over the years.
[18:53] <xorred> on startup, I get tha tmy audio device stopped working and I get a muted kmix
[18:53] <scunizi> diddy: are you going to be doing a lot of video? suspend to ram that kind of thing.. with lots of windows open.. then .. maybe :)
[18:54] <daftykins> seanicus: when the computer boots, does it show any kinds of Vista related attempts at booting?
[18:54] <usr13> josvuk: Is your DSL modem just a modem?  Or is it a DSL modem/router?  What is it's model number?
[18:54] <xorred> DasEi: on startup, I get tha tmy audio device stopped working and I get a muted kmix
[18:54] <diddy> scunizi, hibernation and suspension
[18:54] <seanicus> daftykins: I don't think so...I'd have to check.  But I'm pretty sure not
[18:54] <Slart> diddy: nope.. I doubt there will be any major changes in kernel size in the near future
[18:54] <Guest86556> So I just upgraded my Ubuntu Distro to 9.10 and now I have no taskbar or the bar along the top of the screen....any help?
[18:54] <IndianThrilla> microlith: iBus isn't setup for me properly so i'm going to have to install a few packages.  Be right back...
[18:54] <DasEi> xorred: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog                , give url here
[18:54] <seanicus> daftykins: I'll go on my laptop and turn off this computer.  I am sje46
[18:55] <microlith> IndianThrilla: ok
[18:55] <scunizi> diddy: if you have the space go for it.. that's a huge amount of space though.. 8 might be just as effective
[18:55] <diddy> OkropNick, I will go for it now.
[18:55] <daftykins> seanicus: ok, i am beginning to suspect more problems than just Vista creaming itself :)
[18:55] <microlith> what's this iSpell crap
[18:55] <xorred> Nov 28 00:50:50 home pulseaudio[2311]: alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[18:55] <seanicus> daftykins: as in, hardware problems?
[18:55] <daftykins> yep
[18:55] <diddy> scunizi, yes but I already have 8GB of RAM then I need double the amount for swap, no? Or is that rule of thumb obsolete?
[18:55] <daftykins> seanicus: i'm just getting food now, feel free to PM me when you're back or something
[18:55] <josvuk> usr13: The switch has no port labeled WAN. The Dsl modem is type teledat 430 from telekom.
[18:55] <daftykins> i'll be here
[18:55] <seanicus> daftykins: alright
[18:55] <xorred> http://pastebin.com/f5865ace5
[18:56] <Slart> diddy: obsolete, if you ask me
[18:56] <chuckf> diddy: largly obsolete
[18:56] <scunizi> diddy: it's a rule of thumb that is broken all the time.. situationally dependant
[18:56] <microlith> there we go
[18:56] <Halitech> diddy, pretty much, I have 2gig of ram and a 2gig swap and I seldom use anymore then 500meg of swap
[18:56] <diddy> OK could anybody give me a size for my swap if I have 8 GB of RAM and use hibernation and suspension, please?
[18:56] <MayaT> hello :)
[18:56] <microlith> also, 9.10 apparently doesn't need vmware libraries to exit the mouse/keyboard from the VM without hitting keys
[18:57] <Slart> diddy: 9 GB or so
[18:57] <Slart> diddy: you need *at least* RAM if you're going to use hibarnation
[18:58] <zcat[1]> how long does it take to hibernate 8G of ram? a reboot might be faster...?
[18:58] <diddy> I never understood why the swap has to be bigger than the RAM in the first place.
[18:58] <MayaT> how to install USB modem Vodafone into ubuntu?
[18:58] <Slart> diddy: because it saves the RAM to the swap when it hibernates
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: might work with 2GB RAM in your case
[18:58] <usr13> josvuk: I do not find information on the teledat 430 in english so I do not know, but if it is a DSL modem/router it will work. If it is only a DSL modem, you will need to trade the switch for a router.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: uh 2GB SWAP
[18:58] <diddy> Slart, yes but the RAM can only hold 8 GB max. As far as I know that fits into 8 GB swap. So why do I need more than 8 GB swap?
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: 9GB is a bit crazy for SWAP really
[18:59] <microlith> diddy: you don't
[18:59] <zcat[1]> diddy:  to allow for hibernating it has to be at least equal.. back in hte old days it was typically 2x ram, these days I run with 2G ram and no swap and it's never a problem...
[18:59] <Slart> diddy: oh.. I just heard that the other day.. someone had a good reason for wanting a little more swap than ram.. can't really remember the reason why
[18:59] <usr13> diddy: You do not need more than 8GB swap but wouldn't hurt to have it.
[19:00] <MayaT> how to install USB modem Vodafone 3G/GPRS  into ubuntu?
[19:00] <noshelter> usr13: it would hurt since u lost space
[19:00] <zcat[1]> possible because the way a gig is calculated is different for HDD's and 8G of drivespace is less than 8G of actual ram?
[19:00] <DasEi> xorred: hm, ressource busy, possible a bug in hda_intel syslog  says, try latest alsa drivers ?
[19:01] <zcat[1]> just a theory..
[19:01] <usr13> noshelter: "lost space"?
[19:01] <Slart> zcat[1]: hmm.. I think 8G of disk is the the same as 8G ram..  manufacturers might count differently when they sell drives though
[19:02] <xorred> DasEi: I have the latest
[19:02] <xorred> it happened after I tryied to install rhythmbox and it's "suggesteds"
[19:02] <scunizi> Slart: zcat[1] don't forget the overhead used in drive space..
[19:02] <xorred> reboot - gone sound
[19:02] <Slart> zcat[1]: I think they say.. 8 GB is the same as 8 000 000 000 bytes
[19:02] <xorred> remove rhythmbox - no sound
[19:02] <usr13> zcat[1]: Slart why would there be any difference?
[19:03] <zcat[1]> scunizi:  there's no overhead in swap is there?
[19:03] <Slart> scunizi: isn't that because of the file system? I have no idea how the swap file system works..
[19:03] <scunizi> usr13: zcat[1] Slart isn't there some journaling in swap?
[19:03] <zcat[1]> .. hmm, perhaps there is
[19:03] <DasEi> xorred: lsmod | grep intel | pastebinit
[19:03] <noshelter> usr13: can u use swap to store any data that ud store on ur hd? I think not, so if you resize ur hdd to have 8gb of swap, u lost 8gb of storage space
[19:03] <zcat[1]> it's 'swapfs' .. not just a raw ramdump, right? there must be some overhead to keep track of where blocks ended up
[19:03] <flyguy97> I want to create a custom live cd from a live cd iso. I have everything working but I want to remove the option during boot to install the cd, any suggestions?
[19:04] <Slart> usr13: 8GB is 8*1024*1024*1024 according to everyone else.. the hard drive manufacturers on the other hand say that 8GB is 8 *1000*1000*1000 which is a little less
[19:04] <serbanlupu> hy:)
[19:04] <serbanlupu> i have a problem
[19:04] <serbanlupu> with my ubuntu
[19:04] <Murda> The Nicest One Of Them All
[19:04] <serbanlupu> enyone can help me?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !ask |  serbanlupu
[19:04] <usr13> zcat[1]: There is no overhead in having swap, but there is overhead in using it....
[19:04] <serbanlupu> anyone~!
[19:04] <noshelter> usr13: plus, im pretty sure hibernate works without swap, it will just save the ram into a swap file on the hdd, so that problem can be solved easily without a dedicated partition
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  serbanlupu
[19:04] <AmokPaule> Hello,
[19:04] <scunizi> Slart: usr13 but that's not a fair comparrison of RAM vs Formatted drive space..
[19:04] <mikelam> how do i defrag my files in ubuntu?
[19:04] <usr13> Slart: Oh, good point.
[19:04] <zcat[1]> usr13:  so if I make a 8G swap partiton, that doesn't take 8G away that I could use for / or /home?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !defrag |  mikelam
[19:05] <usr13> zcat[1]: well sure.
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mikelam: That's Ext4 by default in 9.10, but same thing regarding defrag
[19:05] <DasEi> zcat: yes it does
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mikelam: as far as I know
[19:05] <zcat[1]> usr13:  that's what I mean by 'overhead'
[19:05] <AmokPaule> I have a script here with contains severall words i all at one want to replace by another for example .png with .jpg, is that possible?
[19:05] <serbanlupu> i tried to install my video card starting with this stepts
[19:05] <serbanlupu> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.31.5_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Edgy_Manually
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: uhmm  without going on your link even, uh don't use edgy stuff
[19:06] <DasEi> AmokPaule: gedit, search n replace
[19:06] <usr13> zcat[1]: I think we are becomming sea-lawyers
[19:06] <Nixot> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[19:06] <scunizi> zcat[1]: yes.. if you make a swap partition it does make less space for the other partitions
[19:06] <sebsebseb> !edgy |  serbanlupu
[19:06] <serbanlupu> how can i check if "the restricted repository is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list "?
[19:06] <Nixot> err
[19:06] <xorred> http://pastebin.com/f9261fcf
[19:06] <Nixot> how do I use !find for hardy?
[19:06] <scunizi> usr13: now there's an old navy term :)
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: your using old info
[19:06] <AmokPaule> Can i use that aswell over the command line?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: you don't need to do that
[19:06] <Slart> scunizi: nope.. probably not.. but I'm not sure how the swap fs is designed.. come to think of it.. perhaps some googling might be interesting
[19:07] <serbanlupu> k:)
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: Your on Ubuntu 9.10 yes, Karmic Kaola?
[19:07] <serbanlupu> y:)
[19:07] <Nixot> !hardy
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: yes?
[19:07] <serbanlupu> yes
[19:07] <DasEi> xorred: looks correct to me (put nick in answer, or message can get lost)
[19:07] <usr13> scunizi: Yep...
[19:07] <scunizi> Slart: and we thought we had most of this easy stuff figured out .. :))
[19:07] <Nixot> !lts
[19:07] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb YES
[19:07] <Nixot> !eol
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: ok well this works.  system > administration > terminal  and then  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:07] <xorred> DasEi: hmm yes I know it's correct as it worked :)
[19:07] <gribouille> hi
[19:07] <Slart> scunizi: hehe =)
[19:07] <usr13> scunizi: But it fits.
[19:08] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: and hit enter, put in your password, and download. and it installs for you
[19:08] <Nixot> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[19:08] <xorred> it's something got messed up by this rhythmbox
[19:08] <zcat[1]> also swap keeps track of memory use in pages; there must be some overhead to say what page in swam maps to what page in real memory..?
[19:08] <xorred> DasEi: I hate untested packages... :(
[19:08] <DasEi> xorred: changed hardware ?
[19:08] <scunizi> usr13: so is that term still used in todays navy or did it die out in the pre '80's timeperiod?
[19:08] <xorred> no, no hardware change
[19:08] <xorred> changed appartments - rebooted as moved the computer - no sound now
[19:08] <xorred> weird...
[19:08] <CarlFK> how do I install this on Jaunty?  https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gst-editor
[19:08] <Slart> zcat[1]: but there's nothing that says that that info has to stored in the swap itself
[19:08] <nyha> can I turn kernel updates of in ubuntu?
[19:08] <AmokPaule> Ty
[19:08] <xorred> I don't know what caused it, DaSei
[19:08] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: uhmm I meant
[19:09] <gribouille> I removed grub because it didn't work for me, and now, when I update my kernel, dpkg complains because it can't find update-grub
[19:09] <xorred> the move of appartment or upgrades or whatever.. .
[19:09] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: applicaitons > assessories > terminal
[19:09] <usr13> scunizi: I don't know really.  Would be interested to find out.  But you'd probably have to ask a CPO or higher to find out.
[19:09] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: I am not on Ubuntu right now,  I am using another distro instead
[19:09] <nyha> i just installed eeebuntu and I see that it want to install kernel 2.6.29 from eeebuntu and at the same time 2.6.28 from ubuntu...
[19:09] <CarlFK> gribouille: how did you remove grub? (apt-get remove?)
[19:09] <gribouille> CarlFK, of course
[19:09] <nyha> anyone that can help me with this, please PM?
[19:10] <Slart> nyha: you can disable updates in system, administration, update-manager
[19:10] <zcat[1]> nyha:  why would you want to install eebuntu on a regular system?
[19:10] <scunizi> usr13: I have an Admiral on tap (Dad).. spent 36 years in and retired in 83.. he's the only one I've ever known to use the term outside of you.. kinda shows my age I guess.
[19:10] <usr13> scunizi: I found "SEA LAWYER, n. One who attempts to shirk responsibility or blame through trivial technicalities." in "New Words in English"
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: eeeubuntu is the old thing,  I think
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: that is no longer made
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: Ubuntu Netbook Remix that's what you want as far as I know
[19:10] <nyha> zcat[1]: its a eeepc...
[19:10] <zcat[1]> that too, called 'easypeasy' now I think
[19:10] <scunizi> usr13: also known as a BS'er
[19:10] <sylk3r> connect krakow.irc.pl
[19:10] <nyha> sebsebseb: its eeebuntu... not eeeubuntu
[19:11] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: I think ther'es the old offical thing eeebuntu and the unoffical easypeasy or something like that
[19:11] <sylk3r> sry ww
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !unr |  nyha
[19:11] <usr13> scunizi: did you go overseas with your Dad?
[19:11] <zonema> anyone who know how i turn off join/leave info in pidgin irc chat
[19:11] <ilium_9> sebsebseb nyha: eeebuntu has been out for a while, but they're still developing it. The core team came out with Ubuntu Netbook Remix with karmic I think.
[19:11] <nyha> sebsebseb: I don't want the netbookrmx shit...
[19:11] <scunizi> usr13: 5yrs in Europe.. finished HS and 2yrs College in Munich
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !language |  nyha
[19:12] <ilium_9> nyha: I use eeebuntu on my netbook, what's up?
[19:12] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb thanks a lot :)
[19:12] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: make sure you use info for whatever version of Ubuntu your using
[19:12] <CarlFK> gribouille: any idea what package is trying to use update-grub?
[19:12] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: their is a lot of old info out there to,  that won't be valid for your version
[19:12] <nyha> ilium_9: well the update manager want to install kernel 2.6.28 from ubuntu repos and 2.6.29 from eeebuntu repos...
[19:13] <nyha> ilium_9: and this take to much space...
[19:13] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: also it's good to  use the things the bot recommends for help,   as well as the Ubuntu Pocket Guide which you can download
[19:13] <sebsebseb> !new |  serbanlupu
[19:13] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb i tried to make a OpenGl project and i have a project
[19:14] <nyha> ilium_9: and how can I remove old kernels that are installed?
[19:14] <DasEi> xorred: from former experiences I got my alsa back by recompiling it, havent tried on karmic though ( different behavoiur/ upstart) can try on your own risk
[19:14] <serbanlupu> i don`t know how to check if my video card is installed properly:(
[19:14] <serbanlupu> i use ubuntu for 1 week
[19:14] <serbanlupu> :(
[19:14] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: try this to begin with  system > administration > hardware drivers
[19:14] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: also which type of card is it?
[19:15] <gribouille> CarlFK, the kernel, of course
[19:15] <Slart> hmm.. very interesting info about swap.. the bottom comment http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[19:15] <gribouille> CarlFK, are you new to linux ?
[19:15] <CarlFK> gribouille: nope
[19:15] <Slart> seems the 2*RAM is a bit trickier than suspected
[19:16] <CarlFK> gribouille: you new to bug reporting? :)
[19:16] <ilium_9> nyha: I've found lots of help with the extra/old kernels on google, but to stop getting so much junk from update manager, go System->Administration->Update Manager->Settings, and in the Updates tab uncheck "Recommended"
[19:16] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb atiradeon x550
[19:16] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: oh ATI hmm
[19:16] <trism> nyha: dpkg -l | grep linux-image will show you what kernels you have installed, just sudo apt-get remove package_name to remove the old ones...make sure you keep the most recent one at least
[19:16] <gribouille> CarlFK, why do you ask such newbie questions ?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: those can be quite the issue in Ubuntu,  ATI graphics cards
[19:16] <serbanlupu> ...
[19:16] <sebsebseb> !ati |  serbanlupu
[19:17] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: Is there anything available in hardware drivers?
[19:17] <lengend> i got a problem when i close firefox...it just won't like end the process, i would always have to use the system monitor to end it...does anyone know the cause?
[19:17] <GhstW0lf> Can anyone help me with UNR
[19:17] <trism> nyha: uname -r will list the version of your current kernel, make sure to keep that package at least
[19:18] <hawk_> Ghstw0lf, i can maybe help
[19:18] <CarlFK> gribouille: because I am not going to guess at what you likely know - need confirmation
[19:18] <serbanlupu> he sad me "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[19:18] <serbanlupu> he sad me "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.":(
[19:18] <gribouille> CarlFK, just read what I wrote previously
[19:18] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: ok uhmm
[19:18] <serbanlupu> is ok to say me this?
[19:19] <Samuli^> hello, has anyone gotten ext3 drive accessible from windows? right now I can read the partition, but I can't write to it
[19:19] <Samuli^> *windows 7
[19:19] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: well you might have to install a driver for full 3D/OpenGL support, but I don't know that much about ATI graphic cards issues in Ubuntu, since I have Nividia :)
[19:19] <Slart> Samuli^: I'm not sure if there is a read and write driver for windows.. which one are you using?
[19:19] <hawk_> Samuli^, when you install the ex2/3 driver you must enable write support
[19:19] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: sharing with Windows hmm, I woudn't recommmend that
[19:20] <DasEi> serbanlupu: which model ?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: also you  should be able to read and write to your Windows 7 partition from Ubuntu
[19:21] <Samuli^> hawk_, which driver would enable writes?
[19:21] <Samuli^> sebsebseb, I can do that, yes. The other way around is the problem. :)
[19:22] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:22] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: If it's just a dat a partition sharing with Windows uhmm ok maybe, but if it's your /home for example,  I would strongly recommend not to,  after all don't want a virus deleting your program config  files for Ubuntu, as well as some data
[19:22] <serbanlupu> Atiradeon X550
[19:22] <duffydack> serbanlupu, ati x550 is unsupported now
[19:22] <hawk_> Samuli^ - i've used the one from here: http://www.fs-driver.org/ without a problem
[19:22] <Samuli^> sebsebseb, it's ok, don't worry :)
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Samuli^:  I mean the hidden .folders in Home
[19:23] <Berzerker> sebsebseb, uh...viruses that infect windows don't infect Linux
[19:23] <serbanlupu> i need to buy another one?
[19:23] <DasEi> Samuli^: http://tinyurl.com/ygs5mtn
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Berzerker: a virus that has access to a Linux partition in Windows, can delete stuff from it
[19:23] <Berzerker> Samuli^, all you should need to do is double click the Hard drive under /media and it should mount it for access
[19:23] <Samuli^> thanks hawk_, I'll give that one a go
[19:23] <Slart> Berzerker: doesn't infect.. but can destroy
[19:23] <Berzerker> Slart, not if you're in linux
[19:23] <Berzerker> maybe if you're in windows
[19:23] <serbanlupu> duffydack : i use ext2
[19:23] <duffydack> serbanlupu, mines a 9800, and the free radeon driver works nice.
[19:23] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:23] <Slart> Berzerker: he's asking for read/write support in windows for ext3
[19:23] <Berzerker> Slart, ah.
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: you there?
[19:24] <microlith> ya
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: cool.  I got it to work.  Followed these instructions:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/464060
[19:24] <gRaCiOsO> I was using vbox ose and i change vbox version but when i try to run the virtual machine i have to recompile the vbox kernel modules eachtime i wanna run virtual machine if not it dosnt work
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[19:24] <microlith> IndianThrilla: no problem
[19:24] <gRaCiOsO> anyone know?
[19:25] <DasEi> serbanlupu: sry for that model, even my older 1600 does nice with open source now
[19:25] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:25] <duffydack> serbanlupu, check Visual Effects in the Appearance settings.. if set to normal then its using 3d ok, if set to None, try setting it to normal, if it wont , then it wont
[19:25] <Ponuwon> anyone know????
[19:25] <IndianThrilla> later
[19:25] <Slart> Berzerker: of course.. a nasty virus can just do random writes to the harddrive or just start destroying random partitions anyway.. so you're not safe just because you don't have read/write to ext3 available
[19:25] <Samuli^> hawk_, says this program only runs in vista etc. Did you run the installation in compatibility mode?
[19:25] <fakeer> I need to access shared folders on our ISP's LAN 10.39.*.* IP range PCs (directly connected to ISP cable). I am behind my router (so my IP is 192.168.1.100). I can't use file sharing programs either. How to do it?
[19:25] <Slart> Ponuwon: this looks promising
[19:25] <Slart> Ponuwon: http://sourceforge.net/projects/retrocode/
[19:26] <hawk_> Samuli^ - nope, although i only used it with XP
[19:26] <hawk_> Samuli^ - i won't know how it works with win7/vista
[19:26] <Samuli^> ah, ok
[19:26] <Samuli^> I got it to install simply running it as administrator.. trying now
[19:26] <fakeer> I need to access shared folders on our ISP's LAN 10.39.*.* IP range PCs (directly connected to ISP cable). I am behind my router (so my IP is 192.168.1.100). I can't use file sharing programs either. How to do it?
[19:26] <DasEi> Samuli^: I#d like to get a feedback about http://www.fs-driver.org/ on win7, or is that what you tried ?
[19:27] <poutine> fakeer, ssh -R
[19:27] <serbanlupu> isn`t work
[19:27] <hawk_> Samuli^ - good stuff
[19:27] <serbanlupu> i don`t undestand something
[19:27] <Samuli^> DasEi, I'm trying it now
[19:27] <duffydack> serbanlupu,  well, it seems the x550 is rv370 based card, which has acceleration with free radeon driver.
[19:27] <serbanlupu> on ubuntu 9.02(i think ) he works perfect:)
[19:27] <duffydack> serbanlupu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver   according to that.
[19:27] <Berzerker> it's either 9.04 or 9.10
[19:27] <Ponuwon> Slart, thanks I'm checking it now
[19:28] <Samuli^> DasEI, it works in my system.. but is read-only
[19:28] <duffydack> serbanlupu, and the radeon driver itself reports ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) as supported.
[19:28] <serbanlupu> 9.04:d
[19:28] <gRaCiOsO> I was using vbox ose and i change vbox version but when i try to run the virtual machine i have to recompile the vbox kernel modules eachtime i wanna run virtual machine if not it dosnt work anyone know ?
[19:28] <serbanlupu> serbanlupu@Brusture:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Sapphire X550 Silent] [1002:5b63]
[19:28] <DasEi> Samuli^: gimme a second, there was another solution, fine for xp n vista, second
[19:29] <duffydack> serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI
[19:30] <serbanlupu> serbanlupu@Brusture:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) Loading extension DRI2 (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri] Disabling DRI.
[19:30] <Samuli^> DasEi, thanks. Meanwhile I'm trying ext2fsd
[19:31] <usser> serbanlupu, do you have /dev/dri?
[19:31] <Archanamiya> this site looks like shit in IE7: http://billy.x10hosting.com/nini/index.php   Anyone know why?
[19:31] <duffydack> serbanlupu, thats trying to load DRI2, hmm might have to try force it to load DRI
[19:32] <aar> Hi, is it possible to send an encoded (e.g. base64) attachment by telnet mail using the terminal?
[19:32] <hellyeah> because of IE sucks
[19:32] <Samuli^> DasEi, ext2fsd did the trick.
[19:32] <Archanamiya> no
[19:32] <Archanamiya> srsly
[19:32] <racecar56> Archanamiya: the page looks fine...what's wrong with it?
[19:32] <Archanamiya> oh?
[19:32] <Archanamiya> hmm
[19:32] <Archanamiya> that's od
[19:32] <Archanamiya> d
[19:32] <FloodBot4> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <dusty1> hello
[19:32] <Archanamiya> oops
[19:32] <Archanamiya> wrong chanel
[19:32] <dusty1> i only have like 15 minutes because im on a demo irc client on my wife's mac
[19:32] <mun25> how to check the live log
[19:33] <DasEi> Samuli^: was it then , found nothing else, GOOD to know, thx
[19:33] <duffydack> serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /usr/lib/dri
[19:33] <serbanlupu> usser : bash: cd: /dev/dri: No such file or directory
[19:33] <dusty1> i am having problems installing ubuntu on my pc..
[19:33] <usser> dusty1, wth is demo irc client
[19:33] <dusty1> can anyone give me a hand?
[19:33] <racecar56> dusty1: what's wrong
[19:33] <ortsvorsteher> !installation
[19:33] <DasEi> !details | dusty1
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> gRaCiOsO, i was talking to some people in #vbox about that problem yesterday, all I have to say is that VBox 3.0.8 has been working fine on my 64bit Karmic host install - 3.0.10 i had an issue with VM performace being super slow, and at least two people yesterday weren't able to compile the vbox kernel on 3.0.10 & 3.0.12 - I don't know a solution for either of those versions.  best of luck.
[19:33] <Ponuwon> Slart: I don't know how to install that packet into Ubuntu
[19:33] <dusty1> ok
[19:33] <serbanlupu> duffydack : i have a lot of information...
[19:34] <serbanlupu> i put it in a file on internet
[19:34] <dusty1> well this is whats wrong, i have downloaded the latest 64 bit version of ubuntu and am installing it via cd
[19:34] <usser> serbanlupu, are you using a driver from ati? or the default one?
[19:34] <dusty1> i first tried to install it from vista but i kept getting access denied errors even though i was running as administrator
[19:34] <AmokPaule> is the a solution how i can mass convert files from 1 data type to another and take the names over?
[19:34] <Ponuwon> I'm trying to open a 3g2 extension and I can only get the video but no sound. It came off my cell phone.
[19:34] <DasEi> Samuli^: wass that for ext3 or 4 ?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: installed from Vista, you mean Wubi?
[19:35] <usser> serbanlupu, pastebin your lspci | grep VGA, your Xorg.0.log and the results of glxinfo command
[19:35] <serbanlupu> usser default one:)
[19:35] <dusty1> so i decided to do a restart, boot from cd and and install like that, and now it is just sitting at resizing partition at 0% been like that for 45 minutes
[19:35] <Slart> Ponuwon: well... neither do I =/  but perhaps someone else does
[19:35] <n00byLubey> Hello, I need some help installing my Sound Card Drivers.
[19:35] <racecar56> if my apt lock gets stuck what do I do?
[19:35] <dusty1> yea i was trying to use wubi sebe
[19:35] <usser> Ponuwon, you need sound codec, i think its using something like libfaad
[19:35] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: with a little bash onliner should be possible. if you have the command that does the conversion
[19:35] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ok don't use Wubi :)
[19:36] <serbanlupu>  serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /usr/lib/dri can i print it the resolt in a file?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ,because things can go wrong with that, and also real partitions are better in the long run :)
[19:36] <redrum> Any good system and easy to learn programming autodidact? It is very important. Some better than another language to learn?
[19:36] <AmokPaule> i have a converter yes
[19:36] <usser> Ponuwon, no not faad, AMR sorry
[19:36] <dusty1> yea i didn't use wubi sebsebseb, i booted from cd and now its stuck at the resizing partitions
[19:36] <dusty1> i chose the install side by side and dual boot option
[19:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: also let Vista resize itself, or data loss might happen
[19:37] <Ponuwon> usser: it wants me to search for the QCELP decoder which is unavailable
[19:37] <serbanlupu> usser :  http://pastebin.com/m470ca7b3
[19:37] <racecar56> my apt lock is stuck
[19:37] <racecar56> what do i do?
[19:37] <dusty1> sebsebseb: too late for that :( its already resizing the partition and stuck at 0%
[19:37] <n00byLubey> Hello, I have a question. How would I go about installing my Sound Card drivers. I tried going to the "System>Administration>Hardware Drivers" However the only thing that was found was my Video card (Which installed flawlessly)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ok well it's not working
[19:37] <DasEi> racecar56: which output/behaviour ?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: so you can probably just cancel.
[19:37] <racecar56> dusty1: what about the disk access light?
[19:38] <gfg> What does rm -rf / do?
[19:38] <racecar56> DasEi: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:38] <sebsebseb> gfg: trolling?
[19:38] <DasEi> gfg: DAMAGE!!
[19:38] <racecar56> DasEi: there are NO other apt programs running
[19:38] <gfg> racecar56: sudo apt-get install ...
[19:38] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yes it is flashing my hd is a 700GB hd so i thought it would take forever but not ths long heh
[19:38] <gfg> sebsebseb: I see you found my troll, what do?
[19:38] <dusty1> racecar56: the light is flashing
[19:38] <DasEi> racecar56: try from safemode / view top(htop) , don't have synaptic open
[19:38] <racecar56> dusty1: then it's doing something
[19:39] <sebsebseb> gfg: hmm?
[19:39] <duffydack> serbanlupu, copy paste into pastebin
[19:39] <gfg> Nothing
[19:39] <usser> Ponuwon, hm never heard of it, try installing packages from medibuntu repository see if that works
[19:39] <gfg> I shall help!
[19:39] <racecar56> DasEi: i have no other apt programs started, no synaptic or whatever
[19:39] <dusty1> racecar56: but it is still at 0% been that way for 45 minutes now, should it take this long?
[19:39] <Ponuwon> usser: thanks I'll try it
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: no.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> gfg: With?
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: it should have at least been %1.
[19:39] <gfg> sebsebseb: Ubuntu user with there questions..
[19:39] <awhatley> hey guys can anyone help with Virtualbox OSE
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: 1%
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !ask | awhatley
[19:40] <racecar56> DasEi: should i restart?
[19:40] <SwedeMike>  
[19:40] <racecar56>  
[19:40] <DasEi> racecar: install htop and have lokk what could cause it, else use sudo init 1 (logs you out of x) and try repairbroken packages after getting inet (netroot)
[19:40] <dusty1> racecar56: im scared to just restart because im afraid my hd will be screwed up
[19:40] <n00byLubey> Hello, I have a question. How would I go about installing my Sound Card drivers. I tried going to the "System>Administration>Hardware Drivers" However the only thing that was found was my Video card (Which installed flawlessly)
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  awhatley
[19:40] <usser> serbanlupu, hm never seen that video card before, i guess you can try installing the driver from ati.com
[19:40] <racecar56> dusty1: you're on the live cd right? or is it the installer?
[19:40] <dusty1> racecar56: is the i64bit amd iso i downloaded from the main page
[19:41] <sebsebseb> awhatley: ok what's up?
[19:41] <dusty1> racecar56: burned to a cd
[19:41] <racecar56> dusty1: that isn't what i'm asking.
[19:41] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: for file im *.ext do; convertprogram "$file" -o "${file%%.*}".newext; done
[19:41] <racecar56> dusty1: is it the live cd or is it install
[19:41] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: something like that should work
[19:41] <DasEi> !sound | n00byLubey
[19:41] <awhatley> I need to install windows using a VM since one program I need requires windows... I have an ISO file but no access to cd rom... on netbook
[19:41] <AmokPaule> Many thanks :)
[19:41] <dusty1> racecar56: pretty sure its the standard install :)
[19:41] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Virtualbox can be set up to use your ISO
[19:42] <awhatley> what do i have to do to prepare it
[19:42] <DasEi> n00byLubey : sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: oh well too bad :|
[19:42] <awhatley> i know i have to put it onto this macine first lol
[19:42] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Also depending on the program you might be able to have it working well in Wine
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: ...but there's always CTRL+ALT+F1!
[19:42] <magdato> hello, knows somebody what i need to install a touchscreen?
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: =>
[19:42] <awhatley> its software for Lojack for laptops
[19:42] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: for file im *.ext; do convertprogram "$file" -o "${file%%.*}".newext; done
[19:42] <sebsebseb> awhatley: yeah you do that, and then when setting up your vm tell it to use your ISO
[19:42] <awhatley> from file istead  of CD
[19:42] <dusty1> racecar56: if i were to quit the installer will my hd be ok
[19:43] <sebsebseb> awhatley: It's what kind of program?
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: i don't know,
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: is the hard drive making any noise
[19:43] <awhatley> its lojack for laptops.. theft deterant software
[19:43] <cbx33> hey - can you turn server into netbook by installing the meta package?
[19:43] <DasEi> n00byLubey : lspci | grep -i audio | pastebinit             ,give url here
[19:43] <Ponuwon> usser: i dont see that repository
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: if it is then it's definitely doing something
[19:43] <AmokPaule> ok many thanks :)
[19:43] <usser> !medibuntu | Ponuwon
[19:43] <awhatley> it requires windows to communicate with their monitoring software
[19:43] <sebsebseb> awhatley: That does what exactly?
[19:43] <thomas1> i have a problem using kvpnc. when the connection is establische there is no route to the internet. i typed route -n and there was not the vpn gateway for 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0. it has already worked some months ago. what's wrong
[19:43] <awhatley> if my computer is stolen then the computer calls in every 15 minutes
[19:44] <awhatley> and it tells them where the computer is when its connected to the internet
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: uhmm sounds like something that isn't really going to work in a vm
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: ,becasue for the program to work, the vm will have to be running
[19:44] <awhatley> well i know that if someone steals the computer they will format it
[19:44] <seyfarth__> Hey guys, I'd like to use an external (usb) cd/dvd burner. The system doesn't seem to do anything when I plug it in. Any idea how to install?
[19:44] <IdleOne> awhatley: contact the vendor and see if they have a linux version for the software. besides that I doubt you will be able to get it to work
[19:44] <awhatley> and when they do there is a bios chip that rebuilds the software
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: and then your vm will be removed as well
[19:45] <awhatley> i just need to be able to send one signal a day to tell them im ok
[19:45] <billy> hi just got ubuntu 9.10 and im new to it
[19:45] <sebsebseb> awhatley: it sounds like the kind of program that must be on the psyical hard disk, to work properly
[19:45] <sebsebseb> awhatley: or well at all
[19:45] <dusty1> racecar56: iit just gave me an error..
[19:45] <n00byLubey> I tried using the "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" command and it didn't return my proper sound card. I have an onboard sound card which I DON'T wish to use and a PCI Sound card that I DO wish to use.
[19:45] <DasEi> n00byLubey :        asoundconf list | pastebinit             ,give url here
[19:45] <dusty1> racecar56: i gotta go baby is up from nap sorry
[19:45] <racecar56> dusty1: k
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !new | billy
[19:45] <awhatley> so then now i  will have to dual boot again lol
[19:45] <erUSUL> seyfarth__: do « tailf /var/log/messages » then plug the burner. paste the new output you get
[19:45] <billy> i have been  using windows 7 so now i dual boot them side by side
[19:45] <erUSUL> !paste | seyfarth__
[19:45] <DasEi> seyfarth__: does lsusb find it ?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> awhatley: well  the program won't run, when Ubuntu is running
[19:46] <seyfarth__> DasEi: I don't think so?
[19:46] <billy> where can i find a list of programs to get like adobe flash player?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> awhatley: I guess
[19:46] <sebsebseb> billy: you can use graphical  to install stuff,  or commands which is faster
[19:46] <Archanamiya> hello
[19:47] <DasEi> seyfarth__: y or n ?
[19:47] <awhatley> i know but just to give them the signal they need... I was thinking of maybe putting osx instead of windows.... do you know if i hve to install osx first? or can i do it after linux is installed
[19:47] <genii> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | billy
[19:47] <Wolf412> okay, I want to install ubuntu using wubi.  I used unetbootin to create a usb startup disk, put it in while in windows and ran it.  I selected install inside windows, everything went fine, but when I tried to boot into ubuntu from windows boot manager, grub didn't work, just had a black screen with a command prompt where I could enter commands.  I am in ubuntu right now, used the usb to boot...
[19:47] <Wolf412> ...directly in, is there anything I can do?
[19:47] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, get a live cd ;)
[19:47] <Wolf412> I have one, it's a usb
[19:47] <sebsebseb> awhatley: As far as I know you can't run OS X on a netbook, since it needing more powerful hardware.
[19:47] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, get a live CD ;)
[19:47] <Archanamiya> CD
[19:47] <sebsebseb> awhatley: and so on
[19:48] <Wolf412> what's the difference and how does that help my problem?
[19:48] <billy> sebsebseb what is the command to install adobe flash? i tried sudo apt-get install adobeflash
[19:48] <awhatley> crap lol
[19:48] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, or, remake the live USB
[19:48] <Wolf412> did you even read what I said?
[19:48] <Archanamiya> mhm
[19:48] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Also to run the real proper OS X, you need a Mac
[19:48] <Wolf412> I've tried reinstalling about 5 times now
[19:48] <DasEi> billy: flashplugin-nonfree
[19:48] <Archanamiya> wow
[19:48] <Wolf412> grub never works no matter what I do
[19:48] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, hmm. i see.
[19:49] <erUSUL> billy: sudo aptitude intall ubunturestricted-extras
[19:49] <seyfarth__> Oh nevermind, it works perfectly and didn't need to install anything. I just needed to put a cd in the drive :) Thanks to everyone in the ubuntu community for making it "just work" (and offering to help when i thought it didnt) :]
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, can you try to install w/o Wubi
[19:49] <awhatley> crap lol
[19:49] <Wolf412> if I create a partition and install there, won't grub still be stupid?
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, like a normal installation from a live CD/USB?
[19:49] <AmokPaule> erUSUL that worked perfect :)
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, im not sure. it's worth a shot
[19:49] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: ;P you are wellcome
[19:49] <DasEi> billy: sudo aptitude intall ubuntu-restricted-extras    , as ursul said, more needed stuff
[19:49] <Ponuwon> usser: did all the stuff from the terminal and it just fails
[19:49] <serbanlupu> usser : are you here?
[19:49] <DasEi> s*, he
[19:50] <Wolf412> if grub doesn't work though, will I be able to access windows again?
[19:50] <Ponuwon> usser: never mind
[19:50] <sebsebseb> billy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   that should work, but if you want other things taken care of at the same time such as AVI support for example.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:50] <co_shifty> Hi guys, when I click on "Computer" in places, it shows my partitions, cd-rom, and a floppy drive. I don't have a flopply drive; how can I remove it then?
[19:50] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, I'm not sure. Sorry :S
[19:50] <Wolf412> crap
[19:50] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, unmount it
[19:50] <Wolf412> alright well thanks for the help anyways
[19:50] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, ;)
[19:51] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, thanks for quick reply :), but its not mounted though, its weird.
[19:51] <DasEi> !pm | n00byLubey
[19:51] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, That's weird :S
[19:51] <zcat[1]> co_shifty:  dissable it in bios?
[19:51] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, what he said
[19:51] <co_shifty> zcat[1], hmmm Ill try to disable in bios brb
[19:52] <DasEi> n00byLubey: the urls from the pastebins ?
[19:52] <frog> could someone please please please help me to fix my sound. i use for example amarok, start flash and loosing the sound
[19:52] <frog> what can i do#
[19:52] <frog> ?
[19:52] <CarlFK> gribouille: you installed from cd with grub, then removed grub?
[19:52] <n00byLubey> DasEi: could you please give me the command again to get the url? I did the install but I don't know what to do now.
[19:53] <Archanamiya> n00byLubey, to get a url?
[19:53] <Archanamiya> n00byLubey, wget?
[19:53] <DasEi> lspci | grep -i audio | pastebinit
[19:53] <djaerobie> i have one question... is there any way to remove the boot screen? i mean the screen where it stands Ubuntu, and a loading bar under it. that on that comes after the black and white ubuntu logo, i'm using 9.10 karmic koala.
[19:53] <DasEi> asoundconf list | pastebinit
[19:53] <la_pantera> hi everyone
[19:53] <la_pantera> looking for sme help here
[19:54] <nhasian> la_pantera, go ahead and ask your question
[19:54] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f5ab80b1c
[19:54] <DasEi> !ask | la_pantera
[19:54] <sebsebseb> djaerobie: well with KDM instead of GDM,  I didn't get that screen
[19:54] <la_pantera> sorry, i'm a total newbie!
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !new |  la_pantera
[19:54] <la_pantera> need to configure an in-built mic
[19:55] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: oh dear :( well good luck
[19:55] <DasEi> n00byLubey: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster  , your card ?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: that can be rather tricky to do
[19:55] <la_pantera> i know... i tried all day yesterday, still no mic
[19:55] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Yes seems right, The card I have in right now is a Sound Blaster Audgy 2 SE.
[19:56] <DasEi> n00byLubey: second , looking up, should be in kernel
[19:56] <erickcion1> hi I have ubuntu 9.10 and i can't adapt the brigthness of my laptop... any help?
[19:56] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay, thank you.
[19:57] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: see my pm :)
[19:57] <DasEi> n00byLubey: yes, supported, : sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[19:57] <thomas1> i have a problem using kvpnc. when the connection is establische there is no route to the internet. i typed route -n and there was not the vpn gateway for 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0. it has already worked some months ago. what's wrong
[19:57] <djaerobie> sebsebseb: but i am using GDM, i dont want any boot screen, just text. i have removed "quiet splash" from the grub.cfg file. but that didnt remove the screen that comes just before the login screen.
[19:57] <sebsebseb> djaerobie: ok well I think you need to remove xsplash as well then
[19:58] <djaerobie> ok
[19:58] <la_pantera> yeap, saw it
[19:58] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay done, what next?
[19:58] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, alright guys, I did it and its still there with a different name, so I try to mount it ant it give's me it does not exist :s
[19:58] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, oh dear. is it that big a deal?
[19:58] <DasEi> djaerobie: edit /etc/default/grub,  grub.cfg gets overwritten again
[19:58] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, =/
[19:59] <DasEi> n00byLubey: yes, supported, :  gnome-alsamixer
[19:59] <djaerobie> ok. Thanks
[19:59] <[diablo]> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8620/gnomeq.jpg one for the kubuntu team ;-)
[19:59] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   gnome-alsamixer
[19:59] <frog> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f518cd394  http://pastebin.com/f5730a9c1  (if you were talking to me)
[19:59] <DasEi> frog: nope
[19:59] <co_shifty> Archanamiya no :), its been there for a while, I'm doing clean up, was wondering how to remove that in-consistency
[19:59] <gribouille> CarlFK, yes
[20:00] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, meh. don't know. I'd just ignore it personally. but it's up to you. sorry I can't be of more help :S
[20:00] <gfg> [diablo]: <3
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> [diablo]: i'd say the same to gnome :D
[20:00] <[diablo]> hehe
[20:00] <DasEi> n00byLubey: de-mute it
[20:00] <gfg> co_shifty: what is the inconsistancy?
[20:00] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, no problem thank you very much anyways :)
[20:00] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, :D
[20:01] <djaerobie> i am editing /etc/default/grub now. but dont know what to modify
[20:01] <frog> anyone could help me please.
[20:01] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Trying to figure out how.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> [diablo]: lxde all the way
[20:01] <Archanamiya> frog, what's you question?
[20:01] <gfg> ActionParsnip: Seconded
[20:01] <frog> Archanamiya: could someone help me to fix my sound. i use for example amarok, start flash and loosing the sound
[20:01] <co_shifty> gfg, on "Computer" in place's it shows a flopply drive that is not mounted, but I don't have a flopply drive :/
[20:01] <gfg> Its lighter have gFAILnome and you can still use HAL
[20:01] <DasEi> n00byLubey: the boxes below main,pcm and Turn on “Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack”
[20:02] <niixie>  Ohai I need some help with ubuntu
[20:02] <gfg> co_shifty: That is just linus
[20:02] <gfg> niixie: orly?
[20:02] <gfg> co_shifty: is it fd0?
[20:02] <niixie> gfg: rly
[20:02] <Archanamiya> frog, Flash as in Adobe?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> gfg: seen the lubuntu project ;)
[20:02] <co_shifty> gfg, really? It is "floppy0"
[20:02] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I've done that, however I'm still not getting any sound.
[20:02] <DasEi> frog : /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[20:02] <co_shifty> gfg, what does it mean?
[20:03] <DasEi> frog : sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart *
[20:03] <gfg> co_shifty: /dev/fd0 => /media/floppy0
[20:03] <frog> DasEi : it never helps
[20:03] <gfg> ActionParsnip: There is a project?!?!?!
[20:03] <frog> Archanamiya: like youtube
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> !lubuntu
[20:03] <niixie> gfg: i have a second computer at my home, with 2 files on i would like to get on this computer? howto?
[20:03] <chatZilla> how come an iso torrent file don't need an Md5 Sum?
[20:03] <gfg> niixie: Get a flash drive and save it to them, then open it up on your ubuntu computer
[20:04] <maco> chatZilla: torrents checksum each chunk as they go
[20:04] <microlith> torrents are hashed down to the block level with SHA1
[20:04] <gfg> niixie: its the same as windows.... There isnt a diffrenct
[20:04] <gfg> (sp)
[20:04] <gfg> lubuntu
[20:04] <boudhaa> bonsoir tout le monde
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> gfg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu  its an official release too :D
[20:04] <Archanamiya> frog, I see
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: i still check them with md5 but the torrent protocol checks the data once all the data is downloaded
[20:04] <niixie> I have, but the thing is. My second computer is a server so i dont have a screen connected. easier if i open it somehow with the console
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: i'd still md5 though
[20:04] <yofel> niixie: sftp?
[20:04] <co_shifty> gfg, I'm not following, not too familiar with linux structure, what is it?
[20:04] <DasEi> n00byLubey: can figure it out ?
[20:04] <mcr_> niixie ssh
[20:04] <frog> Archanamiya: but not only flash
[20:04] <djaerobie> i have a problem. each time i start ubuntu. i have to delete this line in the grub startup menu ""search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 584221f7-f8b1-46f2-ad06-352e0cfe9618"" is there any way to fix this?
[20:05] <Archanamiya> frog, hmm. odd.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> yofel: sftp == ftp with encryption
[20:05] <frog> Archanamiya: i cant start amarok any more sometimes
[20:05] <niixie> I dont think thats installed on the server but, ill watch? any commands i should know?
[20:05] <chatZilla> how do you md5 a torrent file? I usually use DownThemAll firefox add-on to Md5 from direct downloads
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: does the '--no-floppp' screw things up?
[20:05] <DasEi> !mdsum | chatZilla
[20:05] <yofel> ActionParsnip: yes, and it's easier to set up than ftp if you don't exactly need an ftp server
[20:05] <gfg> co_shifty: Its just a shortcut to the file /dev/fd0 when mounted, you can ignore it. but if you need a floppy you wont be able to mount it, it does the work for USB/IDE/SATA floppy drives.
[20:05] <DasEi> !md5sum | chatZilla
[20:05] <n00byLubey> DasEi: No.. I can't seem to figure it out. It's not muted and I checked all the boxes below
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: torrent the data as normal, once the file is completed, md5 test the iso file as normal
[20:06] <DasEi>  chatZilla: md5sum <filename>
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> yofel: sure, openssh-server gives it
[20:06] <DasEi> n00byLubey: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[20:06] <gfg> :O
[20:06] <DasEi> n00byLubey:  alsamixergui
[20:06] <gfg> DasEi: THank you!
[20:07] <gfg> I have been looking for that package..
[20:07] <co_shifty> gfg: Well ok, excuse my noobishness :), but it's a just in case I want to mount a floppy right?
[20:07] <gfg> co_shifty: Yes
[20:07] <Archanamiya> frog, :S
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: if you edit /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib   and remove '--no-floppy' save the file and run: sudo update-grub   it will remove it for always from grub
[20:07] <DasEi> n00byLubey:  is your s-card liste in the heading of ami-gui ?
[20:07] <djaerobie> Ty
[20:07] <DasEi> listed*
[20:07] <co_shifty> gfg: cool thank you very much, I appreciate it :).
[20:07] <gfg> co_shifty: anytime :D <3
[20:08] <n00byLubey> DasEi: The only thing I see is "Pulse Audio"
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: theres a bug report for it, I had to add a line to my cron'd upgrade script to email me if it got added, and manually remove it before I rebooted
[20:08] <DasEi> !sound | n00byLubey
[20:08] <gfg> ActionParsnip: Is it bad that I am listening to Britney spear while makeing my ubuntu server a domina control for windows..
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: this is a better solution
[20:08] <djaerobie> ok
[20:08] <gfg> !ot
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> gfg: not at all, if its what makes you groove then its awesome dude
[20:09] <DasEi> hehe
[20:09] <mro> hi there, have a problem. installed 9.10 karmic and it does not find the sata-interface of nvidia leaving me with 250gb of nonusable harddrive where all my mails and other stuff is stored on
[20:09] <rezaa> User's Cron does not work but root's cron just works, /etc/cron.allow contains two lines: root, user; cron.deny contains: guest.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> gfg: i've got x factor playing with some guy singing some take that noise
[20:09] <mro> so how can i install the proper sata-driver for nvidia? i already installed the nvidia gfx-driver in the hope it also provides the other stuff but unfotunately it doesn't
[20:10] <DasEi> mro: sudo fdisk -l doesn't see the drive ?
[20:10] <hassan> hi how can i play glest ?how can i find ip for glest?
[20:10] <mro> DasEi, not at all, only the IDE-drive is recognized
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> mro: does the disk / partition show up in: sudo fdisk -l
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !info glest
[20:10] <DasEi> mro : bios checked ?
[20:10] <djaerobie> ActionParsnip: also, do you know how to get pure text boot? so there is no graphical during the boot. i have managed to remove the first boot picture. but i don't know how to remove the xsplash.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> hassan: enable multiverse repos
[20:11] <mcr_> mro: go into your BIOS and set your SATA interface as IDE compatible
[20:11] <mro> ActionParsnip, mro disk is properly noted in biod and during hardware-setup of pc. only ubuntu doesn't recognize it. well dmesg tells me it has loaded some sata_nv but it still doesn't pop up
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: could uninstall xsplash or you can edit /etc/default/grub and remove the quiet option
[20:11] <mro> mcr_ will try now
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> mro: does it show up in the fdisk output?
[20:11] <djaerobie> i have removed the "Quite Splash" already.
[20:11] <mro> ActionParsnip, no, it doesn't
[20:11] <usamahashimi> hi
[20:12] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: no, no out in fdisk he said above
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mro: then run: lspci     andsee if there are bugs logged with your controller
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: all i can suugest is remove xsplash
[20:13] <usamahashimi> i have nvidia gforce GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i video card, when i install the nvidia proprietary driver, the system freezes, how can i fix it?
[20:13] <djaerobie> ok
[20:13] <DasEi> usamahashimi: which driver did you try ?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: what nvidia driver are you installing? what release are you on? what kernel are you on?
[20:13] <usamahashimi> 180.xxx which is reccomended by jockey
[20:14] <usamahashimi> i am using ubuntu 9.10
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: what is the output of: uname -a
[20:14] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I went to the alsa mixer website and it said for my card "Digital/Analog input does not work yet. Needs more development work." So does that mean my card won't work on ubuntu?
[20:15] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: Linux alpha 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:15] <n00byLubey> DasEi : Or does that just mean I need to find other means of making it work on ubuntu? and if so.. what other ways are there?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: try a newer kernel
[20:16] <duffydack> Anyone know how to disable DRI2 and just use DRI in karmic/radeon driver.  I put disable DRI2 in xorg.conf and it does disable during boot but then enables upon boot.
[20:16] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: is there any problem with the old kernel?
[20:16] <songer> hello, my desktop is to big
[20:17] <DasEi> n00byLubey: I'm little irritated, you said it's audigy , which alsa lists as supported, your paste said : Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: possibly
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1010002.html
[20:17] <sshc> songer: hi, can you be be more specific?
[20:17] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: do i have to restart after installing that kernel?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: yes
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: check your case in the file too
[20:18] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: ok, lemme try it, then i will tell you the results
[20:18] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Yes, If you go to " http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs " and search the page for "CA0106" That is where I found it.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: could alwys try the 190 driver
[20:18] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, its disabling it during boot, ive checked.. it then gets force enabled
[20:18] <duffydack> for some reason
[20:18] <rezaa> no one? cron?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: wasnt even aware of dri2 tbh
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: but the "Hardware Drivers" is showing 180.5 as the latest!
[20:19] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, Im just ruling it out with my karmic/lucid + radeon driver + flash (adobe and gnash) + any browser = sluggish system...
[20:19] <DasEi> n00byLubey: sb 16, is what I found, too
[20:19] <awhatley> how can I change the size of my partitions. I just deleted windows partition and now i have more free space
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: 185
[20:19] <djaerobie> actionparsnip: do you know how to remove the xsplash?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: you havent added the 190 repo ;)
[20:19] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   modinfo soundcore | pastebinit
[20:19] <duffydack> Xorg hits the roof...
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: no, can you please tell me?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[20:20] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: 190 is beta, 185 is stable
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: i use the 190 on my 6150 and it works great
[20:20] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: thanks, it will try 190 and will tell you the results :)
[20:21] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f6870f833
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: might make things nice
[20:21] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: brb
[20:21] <DasEi> n00byLubey: drivers there
[20:22] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, I uninstalled nautilus-dropbox a while ago, but the ~/.dropbox directory is still on my system taking 3.4GB from its database file. Is it safe to remove the .dropbox directory completely?
[20:22] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: one more thing! why ubuntu repos are so much slow?
[20:22] <mcr_> KnifeySpooney: yes
[20:22] <n00byLubey> DasEi: So why am I unable to hear any sound? My speakers are pluged in and pluged into the correct sound jack in the back of the sound card.
[20:22] <KnifeySpooney> mcr_: ok thanks
[20:22] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[20:23] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1ef8c4b8
[20:23] <DasEi> usamahashimi: checked fastestmirror in synaptic ?
[20:23] <amites> Anyone here worked with Ruby gems? I'm having conflicts between the gem install and package-manager
[20:24] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: I tried, i also tried my local mirror but still downloading very slow....oh kernel installed, lemme reboot my system :) brb
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: heavy load?
[20:24] <amites> Trying to find a tutorial for how to direct the executable to the gems*/bin dir rather than the /usr/bin dir which is causing errors since I unstalled an outdated apt-get package
[20:25] <Thunder_Drop> I'm trying to start a program on a new X and have been able to get that far but the new X always displays on my primary monitor.  Which variable do I need to change in order to get it to display on my second monitor?
[20:26] <songer> I just active  visual effects and it install  the card driver
[20:27] <songer> sshc: when I did restar mi monitor said out of range
[20:27] <DasEi> n00byLubey: checked your bios ? f.e. enable ecc for your printer ,setting wrong, also check if sound is enabeled , it's a standard-chip,
[20:27] <Thunder_Drop> songer: I have the second monitor working but I'm starting a second X to contain my program but I'm not sure how to get it to use the second monitor instead of the first
[20:27] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay I'll check, be back in a bit.
[20:27] <DasEi> np
[20:28] <sshc> songer: your resolution is probably too big.  Restarting your computer might fix this too
[20:29] <Thunder_Drop> I have added the right lines to my xorg.conf to succesfully start the program on a new X but I can't figure out which variable I need to edit in order to start the X on my second monitor instead of the first
[20:29] <daftykins> songer which driver did you install? nvidia one?
[20:29] <daftykins> Thunder_Drop: if you have two graphics cards you could specify the PCI bus identifier of the second card
[20:29] <daftykins> if you've got two displays on one card, then it's something else i'm not sure of :D
[20:29] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: I only have one card
[20:30] <daftykins> ah, what type?
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: Nvidia geforce go 7600
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> :)
[20:30] <songer> ok
[20:30] <daftykins> ah, laptop?
[20:30] <daftykins> secondary = VGA output or something?
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: indeed
[20:31] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,   did you open nvidia-settings  with sudo?  make chanes to the order of the monitors and then save to xconfig?
[20:32] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,  when you   sudo nvidia-settings  ... go under  "X Server Display Configuration" make your changes there and then click  "Save to X Configuration File"
[20:32] <Thunder_Drop> coz_: I have both monitors working via the nvidia-settings but I'm starting a second X and am not sure which variable in the xorg.conf to change to start the second second monitor
[20:33] <mro> mrc: no effect, still does not recognize the harddrive
[20:33] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,  oh I see...mmm.... you might want to try  #nvidia  or maybe ##linux channel for a more indepth explanation  if they answer in either channel
[20:33] <mro> mrc if i set the specified raid-controller to "activate" it tries ti search for an array which apparently isn't there because i do not want to use raid
[20:33] <songer> daftykins, yes the nvidia one
[20:33] <coz_> I am going for a break    be back in a bitr
[20:34] <mcr_> mro: did you check if the drive was under disk utility?
[20:34] <flavio> ola
[20:34] <flavio> ola
[20:34] <flavio> oi
[20:35] <flavio> oi
[20:35] <Timmymayes> can i use 3 monitors by engaging my onboard graphics in addition to a dual head card?
[20:35] <tiina> osaako kukaan autaa
[20:35] <hadees> how do you install a specific version? i'm following a guide and it says i need libdirectfb-1.0-0, liblzo1 and libkrb53
[20:35] <tiina> Can anyone help me?
[20:35] <mro> mcr_ it isn't can't see it at all
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !ask | tiina
[20:35] <daftykins> songer ok run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and see if it fixes the settings
[20:35] <oCean_> !es | flavio
[20:35] <mro> try playing with bios again
[20:35] <saketh> hello
[20:36] <tiina> hello
[20:36] <saketh> is it possible to install 32 bit packages in ubuntu karmic 64 bit?
[20:36] <flavio> hello
[20:36] <comuna> hola
[20:36] <daftykins> mro what settings does your BIOS have for your SATA ports? it's possible they're in RAID mode and you don't want them to be or something?
[20:36] <comuna> tengo una duda y me gustari a
[20:36] <comuna> a
[20:36] <daftykins> saketh i think you can force it but usually it moans saying they're incompatible
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !es |  flavio
[20:36] <daftykins> someone else is bound to know more
[20:36] <comuna> saber si alguien que sea tan amable me lo puede solucionar
[20:36] <flavio> ??
[20:37] <saketh> ok thanx daftykins
[20:37] <DasEi> saketh: yes, there was that trick for the libs.. used it once for zattoo
[20:37] <sebsebseb> !pt
[20:37] <gfg> lol daftykins
[20:37] <saketh> ok
[20:37] <saketh> thanx
[20:37] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix--all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:37] <flavio> hum
[20:38] <saketh> also, is the bios of a computer stored in its hard disk?
[20:38] <LjL> saketh: no, there's special memory for storing it.
[20:38] <daftykins> no saketh
[20:38] <saketh> LjL thank
[20:38] <saketh> LjL thanx
[20:38] <saketh> daftykins thanks
[20:38] <daftykins> although on incredibly old compaq computers, the setup program itself *was* on the HDD
[20:39] <daftykins> but we're taking original pentiums kind of era :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> saketh: no its on the motherboard
[20:39] <SwedeMike> daftykins: that's quite common still, actually, to have a separate setup partition for different things, like factory restore etc
[20:39] <saketh> thanx ActionParsnip
[20:39] <daftykins> nah SwedeMike, the actual program that writes to the CMOS the settings
[20:39] <daftykins> not the OS setup
[20:40] <flavio> tem alguem ai?
[20:40] <klenwell> Hello.  My sister has asked me to install ubuntu on her old laptop.  It's a Dell Inspiron 5150, ~512k RAM, probably 5+ years old.  Which version do you recommend?  I have disks for 5.10, 7.10, or could dl the latest. Thx.
[20:40] <DasEi> saketh: getlibs it was
[20:40] <SwedeMike> klenwell: I'd recommend 9.04
[20:40] <sebsebseb> klenwell: 9.04 or 9.10,   and 5.10 and 7.10 are no longer supported
[20:40] <daftykins> i'm on a 2.8GHz Pentium 4 Dell inspiron 5160 with 512MB RAM with karmic right now klenwell :)
[20:40] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix (Running Windows then) --all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: will run ubuntu if you wish, you cna install xubuntu for a more responsive system
[20:41] <SwedeMike> AegNuddel: unless you specify what "stereo mix" is, I don't think anyone will be able to answer.
[20:41] <sebsebseb> klenwell: put 9.10 on, if you get loads of problems that you can't solve, you could try 9.04
[20:41] <AegNuddel> Recording sound that the computer is playing
[20:41] <AegNuddel> Also called "what u hear" in some cases
[20:41] <sebsebseb> klenwell: How much RAM does the computer have?
[20:41] <SwedeMike> klenwell: guess he means 512 megs of ram, not 512k
[20:42] <klenwell> Thx for suggestions.  I suggest 5.10 because I had some issue when I tried to install the latest on an old laptop of mine last year and ended up installing 5.10 and upgrading from that.  (Yes, 512MB!)
[20:42] <sebsebseb> klenwell: no don't put 5.10 on
[20:42] <flavio> ola
[20:42] <songer> daftykins: does not happen something
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: i only have 1 system of 4 with more then 512Mb ram
[20:42] <sebsebseb> klenwell: if you want a version that is quite a lot older now and still supported, 8.04
[20:42] <mbeierl1> what happened to all the log bots?
[20:42] <SwedeMike> klenwell: your options are either 8.04 LTS or 9.04 or 9.10 to get something that'll have any decent support.
[20:43] <sebsebseb> klenwell: which is also the current LTS untill 10.04 comes out
[20:43] <gasull> Hi.  I don't see gamepad in lsmod, but I do see /dev/input/js0.  Is it wrong?  I can't get my Logitech gamepad to work.  Thanks.
[20:43] <daftykins> songer are you in terminal in a livecd right now or on the actual install and X is broken?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: download hardy or newer for fullsupport, older releases arent supported
[20:43] <DasEi> klenwell: I recently installe karmic on a 430 PII (Celeron!), 256 meg
[20:43] <sebsebseb> klenwell: 8.10 is also an option, but that will run out of support when 10.04 comes out basicalley
[20:43] <manug> My external (VGA attached) monitor works but the colors look strange. Is there a way to see if I am using 24-bit color?
[20:44] <klenwell> ok, i'm going to dl 8.04 LTS and give it a try.  Will probably return with some questions later.  Thanks!
[20:44] <Neremor> hello!
[20:44] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix -- where you can record the sound the computer is currently playing (Running Windows then) --all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> klenwell: get the torrent or the ISO and then md5sum/sha1sum before burning :)
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> manug: you can read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:44] <sebsebseb> klenwell: to make sure you got a good ISO
[20:44] <DasEi> klenwell: the specs are fine for jaunty,karmic
[20:44] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  klenwell
[20:44] <g__> hi, what can i use to show a movie in a small window that stays on top, like windows movie player
[20:44] <SwedeMike> I have high hopes for 10.04 LTS, with 2.6.32 there is high hopes it'll be a stable and useful platform (quite a lot of nice things in 2.6.32 connected to raid5/6)
[20:44] <DasEi> g__: vlc
[20:44] <cached> the online of desciption of flpsed says "Added lines can later be  re-edited with flpsed. " however, i can't find out how to edit a line that i added. can anyone tell me what to do?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !player | g__
[20:45] <Neremor> I'm currently trying to setup NoteEdit with fluidsynth. Everything is working now, but the sound stutters a bit. I'm using pulseaudio as sound server and Qsynth to setup fluidsynth... Thanks in advance :)
[20:45] <sebsebseb> klenwell: if you do the torrent, you won't need to md5sum/sha1sum it, as long as all your torrent has downloaded
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> gah
[20:45] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: @ what?
[20:45] <DasEi> sebsebseb: depending on clent, always  safer
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: poor factoid
[20:45] <deokanon> can anyone tell when i try to enter the following command sudo chroot "directory" su, it returns this prompt "chroot:cannot run command 'su': no such file or directory"
[20:45] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: for md5sum you mean?
[20:45] <deokanon> what can i do to get rid of it?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> g__: mplayer, vlc, dragon, kafeine, totem
[20:46] <manug> ActionJacks_, thanks -- what should i be looking for in the log?
[20:46] <g__> oh didn't know vlc can stay on top like that
[20:46] <sshc> klenwell: I wouldn't look at older versions for better performance
[20:46] <g__> couldn't get mplayer to stop on top
[20:46] <deokanon> sorry i'm a big noob
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> manug: the colour depth, as you said. its very readable
[20:46] <tiina> Could someone put PM and help me
[20:46] <DasEi> deokanon: cut the "su"
[20:46] <sebsebseb> tiina: What do you want help with?
[20:46] <g__> thanks guys
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> g__: install smplay or gmplayer, you will get pretty uttons to click
[20:47] <deokanon> if i do that it returns ="chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash;" no such file or directory"
[20:47] <tiina> wait
[20:47] <DasEi> deokanon: like sudo chroot /dev/sdb1
[20:47] <tiina> I know how to go channel but there isn't anyone
[20:48] <tiina> why
[20:48] <DasEi> deokanon: like sudo chroot have to mount it to a dir first
[20:48] <sebsebseb> tiina: which channel?
[20:48] <tiina> anyone
[20:48] <ejcweb> I have installed Ubuntu on my Dell laptop, and it seems to work fine. However, the laptop fan is now permanently on (making quite a noise) as compared with fairly un-noticeable fan usage when I boot into Windows. Is there something wrong?
[20:48] <tiina> I write here /join #channelname
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> tiina: no one will PM you, ask in the channel
[20:48] <tiina> and there is only my name
[20:49] <tiina> I'm too stupid for that, sorry
[20:49] <DasEi> !pm | deokanon
[20:49] <songer> ok, to get in my ubuntu i did restart and then unplug my monitor
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ejcweb: websearch for the model in conjuction with ubuntu, there may be a bug report or guide
[20:49] <sebsebseb> tiina: Which channel?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> tiina: whats up with your system?
[20:49] <AegNuddel> No one can help me?  I specified what stereo mix or what-u-hear is
[20:50] <tiina> but here come so much text that I go crazy!!!
[20:50] <dAlfa89_> tiina, did the channel exist before you entered it? Try joining a channel from the channel list, rather than guessing one
[20:50] <DasEi>  deokanon : though you did : sudo chroot /mnt/repair  ?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> tiina: yep, thats why we use tyour name and it highlights the text
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> tiina:  if you join (create) a new channel - then you will be the only one in there. :)
[20:50] <trism> amites: it appears setting gemhome: /path/to/some/location in /etc/gemrc will set the executable directory to /path/to/some/location/bin (from http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/11#page54)
[20:50] <songer> daftykings
[20:50] <tiina> this is just fuckin for me
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | tiina
[20:50] <amites> trism: thank you
[20:50] <dAlfa89_> !language | tiina
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> tiina:  on irc it pays to be patient, specific, and exacting in whaat your problem is..
[20:51] <sebsebseb> tiina: yes this channel can be a bit  unhelpful for new users,  well maybe I can help in pm with whatever it is, let's find out
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> tiina: you can sit and expect someone to ask in a PM which will never happen, or you can ask in here and an answer may be given. Your choice
[20:51] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I don't know if you're still here. But I have checked the BIOS and saw nothing to do with my PCI Sound card. This is frustrating me :(
[20:51] <DasEi> deokanon: please stop pm'ing me, as I want to follow here
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: her issue might not be Ubuntu related so pm might acstauly be better I don't know yet
[20:52] <jelari> hi all, i have upgraded from 9.04 to  9.10, my machine became dead slow. if i launch fire fox, then machine is pretty slow. Any guidance please ?
[20:52] <Flannel> tiina: What's your question?
[20:52] <psd_steve> strangest thing, all was working perfectly and ubuntu disabled my sound
[20:52] <DasEi> deokanon: you mounted the drive before I assume ?
[20:52] <deokanon> yep
[20:52] <Dead_Link> test
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: should still askthen channel instead of expecting a PM, may help others
[20:52] <jelari> hi all, i have upgraded from 9.04 to  9.10, my machine became dead slow. if i launch fire fox, then machine is pretty slow. Any guidance please ? i used apt-get upgrade.
[20:52] <deokanon> dasei: yep
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well yeah
[20:52] <DasEi> n00byLubey: no, but disable onboard if theres any
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ,but it seems they just wanted help in joining some channel, but which channel, no idea
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: hence my intollerance of folks expecting PMs
[20:53] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I did that.
[20:53] <psd_steve> anyone a sound guru?
[20:53] <pookiewookie> how can i set environment variable for root? I do some thing like: "sudo export PATH=$PATH:/opt/foo/bar" and i get "command not found" error
[20:53] <DasEi> n00byLubey: click the volume button (the speaker icon)
[20:53] <babi_> join #ubuntugames
[20:53] <deokanon> DasEi: heres what i did
[20:53] <n00byLubey> DasEi: It's Max.
[20:53] <almigi> jelari: did you do an upgrade or a clean install?
[20:53] <Flannel> pookiewookie: permanently or temporarily?
[20:53] <psd_steve> good idea however that is not the problem
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> !sound | psd_steve
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yep they are just trying to join some channel, that's all it is
[20:53] <jelari> almigi,  i did upgrade,
[20:53] <BluesKaj> jelari, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to karmic
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  you dont do sudo that way with export. You might want to edit /root/.bashrc or .bash_profile or .profile
[20:54] <DasEi> n00byLubey: right click it
[20:54] <DasEi> preferences
[20:54] <duffydack> the !sound trigger really needs updating...lol
[20:54] <jelari> BluesKaj,  what is that command  i didnot get ?
[20:54] <pookiewookie> Flannel: temporary would be fine, tho if i can set it permanently it would be better
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: same applies
[20:54] <jelari> BluesKaj,  i have upgraded already. but the machine is damn slow.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: change it then, you can teach ubottu
[20:54] <deokanon> DasEi: loaded ubuntu with livecd, 1)mkdir /mnt/repair 2)mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/repair 3) chroot /mnt/repair su ... returned the error prompt
[20:54] <almigi> jelari: well, you can try BluesKaj advice, or you can join the millions of happy users who only do clean installs. I know upgrades should work, but the success rate isn't 100%
[20:55] <BluesKaj> jelari, do-release-upgrade
[20:55] <amites> trism: for reference: I uninstalled the package-manager haml and re-installed the gem - then added a couple aliases to ~/.bashrc to execute the gems directly inside the .gem/bin dir - working like a charm
[20:55] <DasEi> deokanon: no su in the end
[20:55] <psd_steve> Actionparsnip thanks, I'll give them a look it was working fine then it disabled or removed my drivers for some reason
[20:55] <jelari> almigi,  BluesKaj  but i have upgraded already and then their is no point now to upgrade again right ? but solution for slow access ?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: use:    !factoid is some_text_here
[20:55] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: i cannot "cd" or "sudo cd" to that drectory
[20:55] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I did, No it is not Muted.
[20:55] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: it seems they were joining a channel,  that is no longer being used  or something
[20:55] <DasEi> n00byLubey: what does it say about hardware ?
[20:56] <AegNuddel> hm will haave to look elsewhere
[20:56] <Flannel> jelari: What steps did you take to do the upgrade?
[20:56] <Dead_Link> i have a problem. im new to the linux world and have installed the latest ubuntu (9.10). my problem is that since an update i have two ubuntu versions in my grub. the older version and the new one which im using right now. how do i change that?
[20:56] <komp> hi
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  useing 'sudo cd' is pointless..  it would cd, then exit back to your normal shell. (the non sudo'd one) if the directory dosent exist then it dosent exist.. check its permissions if it does exist
[20:56] <simonovski> hi ppl.. i'm martin from macedonia i use windows xp sp2 and i dont have installed driver for graphic card can... and i dont know what is my card.. can somebody help me thx.. ?
[20:56] <jelari> Flannel,  i have chooses the upgrade button in package manager.
[20:56] <deokanon> DasEi: i removed the su at the end and returned "chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash: no such file or directory"
[20:56] <jelari> s/chooses/choosen.
[20:56] <DasEi> Dead_Link: you want only the newer ?
[20:56] <Flannel> Dead_Link: You don't need to worry about the older version being there
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: if you run: uname -a    that will show your CURRENT kernel
[20:57] <n00byLubey> DasEi: IT has my soundcard there. However there is a "Profile" And I see MANY options. Maybe I should change that? Its currently set to Analog Stereo Duplex.
[20:57] <almigi> jelari: what is the output of "uname"?
[20:57] <linxeh> simonovski: what has that got to do with ubuntu ?
[20:57] <jelari> Flannel,  pkg mgr was asking whether to upgrade to karmic, i clicked ..
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: if you run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image   it will show you ALL installed kernels
[20:57] <mro> back again. ubuntu 9.1 finds my sata_hardware but does not fiond the ide-drive behind it. there is no such option in the bios to set it to use AHCI or IDE-compatibility. i can only activate/(deactivate raid and set ide-prefetch. ideas?
[20:57] <Flannel> jelari: Right.  You upgraded in the correct manner.
[20:57] <jelari> Flannel, almigi  uname is Linux
[20:57] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: ls -al says: drwx------  11 root root  4096 2009-11-28 22:29 root
[20:57] <Giertrud> oops
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: you can use: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-<version>-generic    to remove the old version
[20:57] <BluesKaj> almigi, nothing wrong with a net upgrade as long as there aren't any orphans
[20:57] <Flannel> jelari: He meant uname -a
[20:58] <rTk^> How do I run java sites on ubuntu
[20:58] <jelari> Flannel, almigi   Linux jelari-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: when you have removed all the kernels you do not want run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[20:58] <linxeh> rTk^: install java, and a java container (tomcat or jetty etc)
[20:58] <linxeh> rTk^: and be prepared for a steep learning curve
[20:58] <DasEi> n00byLubey: that should be right, play around a little, the caard is recognized, the drivers are there... play a mp3 in vlc and play around
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: that will remove the modules etc for the kernels you removed
[20:58] <rTk^> are you serious
[20:59] <almigi> jelari, that's the problem, for some reason you're still on the old 9.04 kernel
[20:59] <jelari> Flannel, almigi  any solution, i could see the firefox hogging the CPU like anything in top command.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Dead_Link: you will save 120Mb per kernel
[20:59] <rTk^> I just wanna talk to newegg's customer service
[20:59] <linxeh> rTk^: by java sites you mean websites right? using servlets and jsp etc ?
[20:59] <jelari> almigi, how to move then ?
[20:59] <almigi> chances are you DID download the new kernel when you upgraded, but you're booting into the old one
[20:59] <Flannel> jelari: Does this only happen with firefox? or other programs as well?
[20:59] <linxeh> rTk^: right ok, just install sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin (I think)
[20:59] <rTk^> I just wanna talk to newegg's customer service, I don't wanna write java lol :)
[20:59] <rTk^> k
[20:59] <jelari>  it mainly happens with firefox.
[21:00] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Its not 120MB
[21:00] <DasEi> deokanon: sudo chroot /mnt/repair should work then, did you verify by mount (no args) it got mounted at all ?
[21:00] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: what permissions should i make to root's directory so that i could edit .profile ?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> jelari, to make sure you actually upgraded , lsb_release -a
[21:00] <almigi> this *may* work, jelari: sudo update grup
[21:00] <jelari> but still i could see some delay in opening other appliations, and closing also.
[21:00] <almigi> er: sudo update grub
[21:00] <Dead_Link> allright, it worked
[21:00] <focus_> Can any one offer some help with a tablet problem
[21:00] <focus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8403189#post8403189
[21:00] <Dead_Link> thank you :)
[21:00] <jelari> BluesKaj,  it is No LSB modules are available.
[21:00] <jelari> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:00] <jelari> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[21:00] <jelari> Release:	9.10
[21:00] <jelari> Codename:	karmic
[21:00] <FloodBot4> jelari: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <BluesKaj> almigi, sudo upgrade-grub
[21:01] <almigi> BluesKaj, thanks
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  you use  the proper sudo command to edit the file. you dotn mess with the permissions.
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  sudo EDITOR /root/.whatever
[21:01] <almigi> jelari, try using "sudo upgrade-grub" and then reboot and see if that fixes it.
[21:01] <pookiewookie> ok, gonna try
[21:01] <jelari> almigi,  sure almigi ... :)
[21:02] <jelari> almigi,  i have dual boot. it wont affect is not ? :)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: its close to
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> ive never figured out why the 'lsb_release' command dosent print out somthing usefull for just 'lsb_release' :)
[21:02] <BluesKaj> jelari, try sudo dpkg --configure -a , it may speed things up
[21:02] <almigi> jelari, just a moment.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: even with a  -a option
[21:03] <kob_Boudha> -users
[21:03] <jelari> almigi,  sure.
[21:03] <kob_Boudha> users
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:   ya would think just lsb_release would default to lsb_release -a or somthing. :) or -h at least
[21:03] <KnifeySpooney> I'm trying to use the Speech screenlet, but when I try to add the screenlet I get "orca is required to use this screenlet". I already have gnome-orca installed. Any way to get this screenlet working?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> !find orca
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: yeah -h at least
[21:04] <jelari> almigi, BluesKaj  sudo upgrade-grub, sudo  --configure -a, which one to use ?
[21:04] <almigi> jelari, in theory, it shouldn't. upgrade-grub just updates the boot menu, so as long as it can still see the other OS, it should be fine.
[21:04] <KnifeySpooney> Dr_Willis: I already have gnome-orca
[21:04] <focus_> Can any one offer some help with a tablet problem   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8403189#post8403189
[21:04] <almigi> jelari, it depends on the cause of the problem. I'm going off the assumption that the upgrade did download everything it needed to download but the grub menu wasn't updated.
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> wow.. just typing 'orca' makes tye system talk.. :) cool!
[21:04] <jelari> almigi,  so it doest affect the existing os entries right ?
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> KnifeySpooney:  i just typed 'orca' and it is running some config stuff.. perhaps that needs to be done first
[21:05] <almigi> jelari, i could be wrong though. the reason why I'm going off that assumption is because there was a similar report in launchpad and about the system slowing down after an upgrade
[21:05] <jelari> almigi, BluesKaj   but i remember the following package was failing when i upgrade: Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:05] <jelari>  ztemtevdo
[21:05] <KnifeySpooney> Dr_Willis: Yeah I just did that too and ran the installer.. Maybe I need to log in/out
[21:05] <KnifeySpooney> brb
[21:06] <BluesKaj> jelari, sudo  --configure -a to release orphaned pkges, has nothing to do with grub
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> the orca config says you need to . :) so yes.. i think so knuifey
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: it can speak in a lancashire accent too . hahahahhah
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  just what ive always needed!
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: what, some dirty manchester voice, no way
[21:06] <jelari> BluesKaj,  sudo --configure -a  ? it shows wrong option '--
[21:06] <almigi> and, that being said, while I have used Linux for awhile, I still consider myself somewhat green.  Perhaps you should try BluesKaj advice first.
[21:07] <Nixot> hey al
[21:07] <Nixot> l
[21:07] <Nixot> I have a problem... when I play unreal tournament there's no sound
[21:07] <Nixot>  why not?
[21:07] <jelari> BluesKaj,  ok, it is with dpkg command ! :)
[21:07] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg  --configure -a
[21:08] <the_madman> Hello everyone.
[21:08] <BluesKaj> sorry
[21:08] <the_madman> I'm having a problem with nvidia drivers...
[21:08] <robotron> yo madman
[21:08] <jelari> BluesKaj,  insmod: error inserting '/usr/local/bin/ztemtEVDO/ztemt.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[21:08] <Nixot> Note: It also happens with extreme tux racer
[21:08] <robotron> are you using the default nv driver?
[21:08] <the_madman> I've lost support for shaders when I had it before...
[21:08] <Nixot> anyone
[21:08] <Nixot> ?
[21:09] <the_madman> Nixot: I've noticed that some games have problems with pulseaudio.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> now if i could figure out how to use orca... :)
[21:09] <the_madman> Nixot: You might want to try removing pulseaudio and trying again.
[21:09] <the_madman> Anyway.
[21:09] <tilt> Dr_Willis: what's an orca?
[21:09] <deokanon>  DaesEi: sorry for replying late... yes it's mounted..."/dev/sda1 on /mnt/repair type fusblk
[21:09] <Nixot> the_madman: How would I go about doing that?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> tilt:  its a text to speach tool it seems
[21:09] <duffydack> I have a spanish friend I talk to on pidgin/msn she is using windows, it installs gtkspell and it gives her english and spanish dicts, and lets her check spelling for both languages, but the ubuntu pidgin/aspell/gtkspell dont.. ?
[21:09] <the_madman> Nixot: In whatever package manager you prefer, search for, "pulseaudio" and remove the package.
[21:10] <the_madman> Nixot: Might want to restart after as wel.
[21:10] <duffydack> Its limited to the locale she uses when logging in
[21:10] <kbp> I need help. Does ubuntu 9.04 still support /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[21:10] <Nixot> tilt: The Orca (Orcinus orca), commonly referred to as Killer Whale , less commonly, Blackfish, is the largest species of the dolphin family, though they are commonly mistaken as a species of whale. They are found in all the world's oceans, from the frigid Arctic and Antarctic regions to warm, tropical seas.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> kbp: all linuxes do
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> kbp: regardless of distro or release
[21:10] <tilt> Nixot: I see
[21:10] <Nixot> Doing so right now...
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> Now i wonder if it will say wahts in this window.. Nope. :(
[21:10] <kbp> ActionParsnip: ok thank you
[21:11] <tilt> Nixot: well, don't tell the japanese
[21:11] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: well editing .profile didn't add required PATH. When doind "sudo env" there is still no /opt/foo/bar listed
[21:11] <Nixot> OK tilt.
[21:11] <pookiewookie> any ideas?
[21:11] <Nixot> I'll keep that in mind
[21:11] <jazzencat> is wicd broken in 9.10?
[21:11] <Nixot> the_madman: It wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well
[21:12] <the_madman> Nixot: Oh. How many other things does it want to install?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> kbp: its really handy to backup a good one, then if you get a new install or release you can just copy in the file then restart networking and you are good to go
[21:12] <jazzencat> i tried installing it, and it failed to detect any wireless networks, but removing it didn't help to use the default gnome wifi manager
[21:12] <the_madman> Nixot: It's all right to uninstall ubuntu-desktop, but if it's removing stuff like gnome-keyring, scrap that idea...
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  sudo has options  you may want to be using
[21:12] <AceKing> I'm trying to help a friend out with his computer.. He is running 9.10 upgraded from 9.04, he went to restart yesterday, and it started running a file check.. It gets to 70% and stops. If he hits escape to cancel the check it comes up to a prompt. Is there any way to fix this?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> jazzencat: theres also wifi-radar and ntwork-manager
[21:13] <ejcweb> ActionParsnip: I've googled my laptop fan issue, and discovered several posts on various forums confirming that others have experienced this. But it doesn't seem specific to my own laptop; many other get this too. Is it that Ubuntu simply doesn't control the fan at all and leaves it on?
[21:13] <jazzencat> all right i'll try those.
[21:13] <kbp> ActionParsnip: this is my ifconfig output http://codepad.org/bFKN2Byx . is the wmaster0 normal ?
[21:13] <the_madman> So I've been having problems since I tried swapping out nvidia-drivers with nouveao drivers. I couldn't get the latter to work, so I tried switching back to the former, but I seem to have lost support for shaders while I had them before.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> kbp: yeah i've seen that
[21:13] <gletob> Hey guys & girls.  If my friend has a pc with an ATI Radeon 4850 in it, then would installing fglrx-amdcccle and it's dependency of xorg-driver-fglrx get his card running in 3d?  Well enough to run A 3d FPS
[21:13] <jazzencat> the reason i was trying wicd was because of very low signals in wifi even when close to the router
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ejcweb: in some cases yes, seems you may need some boot options or somesuch, dellare very documented so you may find guides
[21:14] <kbp> ActionParsnip: ok... thank you... I will try again, because my wireless card cannot connect even there is no passwd
[21:14] <Nixot> the_madman: I ran it as a terminal, and found this: "open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> kbp: use wlan1
[21:14] <the_madman> I've tried apt-get purge nvidia*, reboot, apt-get install nvidia-common, running Jockey and installing nvidia drivers the usual way again...
[21:14] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: do you mean "sudo -E" or something?
[21:14] <the_madman> Nixot: Hmm. OK.
[21:15] <the_madman> Nixot: Not entirely sure what to do in that case - at least, without just killing gdm and going CLI...
[21:15] <kbp> ActionParsnip: could you please do me a favor? could you post the content of your /etc/network/interfaces ? (because my jaunty doesn't have that file and i thought jaunty doesn't support any more)
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  been ages since i looked into doing that stuff. i normally just set the proper paths for the user, and sudo works for it. Someone was asking in here about  setting the root users path also.    I recall copying the users .bash* files to the root users home and sudo then used the same paths as the user.
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> Yea. the orca built in help... crashes.. :)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> kbp: http://pastebin.com/f14f867c0
[21:18] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: hmm. interesting, I modified user's .profile and it sets variable fine. Done the same thing for root .profile and it doesn't work :/
[21:18] <Nixot> Oh, and I typed "pulseaudio -k" and turned all the settings in the sound option to ALSO, as that was the only one that workes
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> kbp: from my wired subnet
[21:18] <Nixot> the_madman: I mean. read the previous message, I forgot to write your name at the start
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  thats because the default sudo uses the USeRS settings, not roots.  thats also a differeance in how 'sudo -s' vs 'sudo -i' works
[21:19] <kbp> ActionParsnip: I have wired connection too but I don't have the file interfaces (!!?)
[21:19] <the_madman> Nixot: You might want to restart, in case something's still using pulseaudio...
[21:19] <Nixot> OK
[21:20] <gletob> No one?
[21:20] <Nixot> Restarting now...
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> kbp: dude its essential as linux uses the loopback interfaces quite a lot
[21:20] <gletob> Hey guys & girls.  If my friend has a pc with an ATI Radeon 4850 in it, then would installing fglrx-amdcccle and it's dependency of xorg-driver-fglrx get his card running in 3d?  Well enough to run A 3d FPS
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> kbp: i'd use mine as a template and change the address ranges to suit your network address
[21:21] <majestrooo> hi i upgraded to 9.10 and I can't have sound input and output at the same time. If I change the profile to "analog stereo input" in volume control, I can record fine with my mic but there's no output. The other way around, if I set the profile to "analog stereo output", my sound output works fine but I can't use my mic.
[21:21] <n-iCe> hello, how can I burn and boot karmic from a usb stick
[21:21] <majestrooo> n-iCe: use unetbootin
[21:21] <kbp> ActionParsnip: ok thank you I've found it (bad eyes). thank alot
[21:21] <n-iCe> majestrooo ok, tell me more :D
[21:21] <majestrooo> google unetbootin ;D
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> gletob: seems to be supported by ati.com: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> kbp: np bro
[21:23] <gletob> ActionParsnip, What's the current X.org version?
[21:23] <aurolac> anyone using an MSI Wind?
[21:23] <gletob> ActionParsnip, 7.4?
[21:23] <n-iCe> sure majestrooo
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> gletob: its what ati.com gave when i selected your card
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | aurolac
[21:24] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, don't preace to me, it was a useful question because it relates to that laptop
[21:24] <aurolac> *preach
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: its a moot question, just ask as if someone said "yes" and find out
[21:24] <genii> !laptop
[21:25] <gletob> ActionParsnip, No I was asking what the current X.org version was for Ubuntu 9.10 but I just pulled it up in synaptic and it's 7.4.  Thanks for pointing me to that page.
[21:25] <AceKing> I'm trying to help a friend out with his computer.. He is running 9.10 upgraded from 9.04, he went to restart yesterday, and it started running a file check.. It gets to 70% and stops. If he hits escape to cancel the check it comes up to a prompt. Is there any way to fix this?
[21:25] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: well, "sudo -i env" lists the required path, but not the "sudo -s"
[21:25] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, if someone says yes then great, what's the point of elaborating on an issue if nobody else owns one
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: its not preaching in any way, its just showing your initial question is pointless
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  now ya know why theres a -i and a -s :)
[21:25] <aurolac> all you've done is waste time and space
[21:26] <greg__> is there a forum to help with scripting?
[21:26] <dAlfa89_> aurolac, either you're going to ask your question or not, get on with it.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: because it takes an initial question then another, why not cut out the first one and ask your real questio worded slightly differently
[21:26] <aurolac> dAlfa89_, I did
[21:26] <Nixot> SOUND!
[21:26] <Nixot> BEAUTIFUL SOUND!!!!!
[21:26] <Nixot> :D
[21:26] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, i'll deal with that when the time comes
[21:26] <FloodBot4> Nixot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <linuxguy2009> Anyone else having boot issues with 2.6.31-15 kernel?
[21:26] <Nixot> Thank you, the_madman :D
[21:26] <Nixot> Hey! I wasn't flooding! >:c
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  no. :)
[21:26] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: but when i run "sudo -i make" (yes, i'm trying to cross-compile :) ) it gives me an error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[21:27] <paul68> when I want to run the latest kernel version  2.6.31-15 I can't get my sta broadcom driver to work how do I solve this
[21:27] <linuxguy2009> Hmm wonder why I am.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: you'll be waiting a LONG time
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  no idea. Its generally a bad idea to run make as root. 'make install' yes..  'make' no.. You could just do the commands from a root shell you get to with 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s'
[21:27] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, don't you worry about me
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: as you have given no information
[21:27] <dAlfa89_> I spy with my little eye, something beginning with troll
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: i wont until you give details
[21:28] <AceKing> ActionParsnip or Dr_Willis I was wondering if either of you guys seen my question?
[21:28] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, go suck a lemon
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: did actually. i have tequilla
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  i see you asking if i saw it.. but i dident see it. :) i wasent looking.
[21:28] <paul68> attitude | aurolac
[21:28] <aurolac> ActionParsnip, yeah it shows
[21:28] <AceKing> I'm trying to help a friend out with his computer.. He is running 9.10 upgraded from 9.04, he went to restart yesterday, and it started running a file check.. It gets to 70% and stops. If he hits escape to cancel the check it comes up to a prompt. Is there any way to fix this?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: no it shows you need to listen to the bot
[21:28] <mrXX> i need help making my internal mic work -
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> acekin
[21:28] <dAlfa89_> ActionParsnip, leave the guy alone, he's probably too used to being hated by now
[21:28] <paul68> language | aurolac
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  you might want to boot a live cd. and manually fsck the filesystems.
[21:29] <paul68> when I want to run the latest kernel version  2.6.31-15 I can't get my sta broadcom driver to work how do I solve this
[21:29] <aurolac> paul68, if you read the conversation, he's offering no helpful info, he's just got nothing better to do
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> dAlfa89_: i guess
[21:29] <mrXX> has anyone configured internal mic in acer aspire? plz help me
[21:29] <aurolac> and keeps going on, i've asked my question and he's just knit-picking at this stage
[21:29] <aurolac> but he's English what do you expect
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> I dident see an actual question...
[21:30] <Omen_20> hi. i made a user account on my system figuring anything that needed to be changed i would be able to allow with my admin account much like on Vista. This does not seem to be the case. How do you allow things as an admin in Ubuntu?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> aurolac: i asked you to expand on your issue, you failed to do so, so nobody can help you
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> loser
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> mrXX:  you mean an Acer Aspire One? or some other brand?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: me neither
[21:30] <jelari> some one please help me my  ubuntu after upgrading to karmic has become dead slow.
[21:30] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: whoah!! it works! I typed "exec sudo -i" and it works!
[21:30] <jelari> is it a expected one ?
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  exec? what are you doing exactly ?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> jelari: is it all slow, or just in some apps?
[21:30] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: Thank You for help
[21:31] <mrXX> Dr_Willis i have aspire laptop, the mic doesnt work in ubuntu
[21:31] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  it is all slow.
[21:31] <AceKing> Dr_Willis, how do I fsck the file system?
[21:31] <paul68> ActionParsnip: do You have a thought on my issue?
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  glad i could help.. i think you may be going about doing things wrong... but have fun
[21:31] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  even opening Xchat itself takes huge time.
[21:31] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to cross-compile firmware for my asus wl500gpv2
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  fsck.ext2 or fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1  or whatever device..
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> paul68: run: lsusb   and search for drivers based on the 8 digit hex ID you get
[21:31] <AceKing> Dr_Willis.. Thanks
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:   and for some reason this requires compiling things as root? thats... weird..
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> jelari: strange, have you tried some boot options?
[21:32] <jelari> ActionParsnip, means ?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> jelari: is it a laptop?
[21:32] <jelari> yes
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions  jelari
[21:32] <jelari> it is SONY vaio.
[21:32] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: no worries, i'm running the thing in a virtual machine (virtual box) and have plenty of snapshots :)
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions  jelari
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | jelari
[21:32] <paul68> ActionParsnip: also for bcm wifi drivers?
[21:33] <pookiewookie> i just need the firmware image built from svn, dont really matter how i build it as long as it works :)
[21:33] <jelari> ubottu,  i dont want to open the browser, then i could not open anything.
[21:33] <jelari> ubottu including typing here.
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> paul68: you will need to reinstall those for the new kernel, not all drivers survive upgrades
[21:34] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  ubottu, i have upgraded to 9.10, but my grub still shows 9.04 only how ?
[21:34] <paradoxic> can anyone tell me how to install all extra languages so I can see the character sets in firefox ?
[21:35] <Swindle> anyone that can help me sort this out      awk 'NR=="$i" {print $2}' foo       the loop works but it wont set the variable, im in bash
[21:35] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  ubottu,  Even moving window also takes huge time.
[21:35] <poutine> Swindle, there was no loop there
[21:35] <jelari> altogether i  feel i should not have upgraded to karmic.
[21:35] <poutine> Swindle, problem solved.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> jelari: you will have the old kernels still installed. If you boot to the newest kernel then: lsb_release -a       will tel you its karmic
[21:35] <paul68> ActionParsnip: I understand but the restricted driver is mentioned there but can't seem to activate it, and if I need to reinstall where can
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> Swindle:  you mean set the variable for the bash shell?
[21:36] <paul68> ActionParsnip: I find that driver?
[21:36] <Swindle> lol i didnt paste the whole loop.. im just saying thats inside the loop and $i counts but it wont set inside that statement
[21:36] <pookiewookie> Dr_Willis: again, you've been very help full. Thank you
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i would, just to make sure its been instaled under the new kernel;
[21:36] <fearzaurus> Swindle: what's NR?
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  have fun.  :)
[21:36] <Swindle> number of record
[21:36] <pookiewookie> thank, see ya later :)
[21:36] <paul68> ActionParsnip: and I ceck that with lsusb?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom  | paul68
[21:36] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  Yes it tells it is karmic
[21:36] <poutine> Swindle, you do no assignment, you should have had NR=$i; outside of the awk statement if you wanted the bash $NR to be $i
[21:37] <fearzaurus> so
[21:37] <fearzaurus> "if record number is same as $i, then print second token"?
[21:37] <Swindle> its not a homework assignment...
[21:37] <grub2-from-hell> grub2 question: in the docs I've seen mention that FAT and ext2 file systems are supported, with conspicuous absence of ext3 or 4 wherever mention is made; is this meant to imply they're NOT supported? If not, what rationale? can't find anything explicit... could also use referral to a better channel if there is one.
[21:37] <Swindle> im trying to parse transmissionBT
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> grub2-from-hell:  supported where for what? i have grub2 on ext3/4 filesstems just find..
[21:38] <trism> Swindle: assignment in that sense means assigning a value to a variable
[21:38] <mrXX> plz help me configure my mic - here is the alsa-info  http://paste.ubuntu.com/330592/
[21:38] <jelari> ActionParsnip,  ubottu,  any help , no one is helping. i even could not able to check in the internet.
[21:38] <Swindle> oh..lol sorry been looking at forums to long
[21:38] <fearzaurus> lol homework assignment
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> grub2-from-hell:  its also possible ubuntu did some tweaks to make it support ext4, like they did with grub1 in the last release
[21:38] <fearzaurus> that wouldve explained alot
[21:38] <phantomcircuit> uh
[21:39] <Swindle> transmission-remote -l | sed '1d' | sed '/Sum:/d' >| .transremote
[21:39] <Swindle> LINE=`cat .transremote | wc -l`
[21:39] <Swindle> i="1"
[21:39] <Swindle>         while [ $i -le $LINE ]
[21:39] <Swindle>         do
[21:39] <Swindle>                 COMP=`awk 'NR=="$i" {print $2}' .transremote`
[21:39] <FloodBot4> Swindle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <phantomcircuit> so i have a DVD with large video files
[21:39] <co_shifty> Hi guys, I'm having the problem of my system not being able to recognize blank CDs, hope someone can help.
[21:39] <phantomcircuit> and the thumbnail generator is using 100% cpu
[21:39] <phantomcircuit> basically forever
[21:39] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: thanks for response; this is a perhaps less than totally conventional installation, with Karmic 32 & 64 bit versions on 1 of 2 physical disks mounted; disk0 is used for Win32 for the most part
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> co_shifty:  i had that issue the other day.. but the last round of updates.. it got fixed. (for me)
[21:39] <Swindle> damn i tried to past short script but it got pissed at me
[21:39] <noisecontrol> I just spent 3 days trying to find appropriate video drivers for a compaq presario running vista only to find out that compaq has its own proprietary nvidia driver. I am less than plussed with compaq right now.
[21:39] <fearzaurus> If Will=Bill, does Willis=Billis?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> fearzaurus:  Bill (william) is my brothers name. :)
[21:40] <Swindle>  i="1"
[21:40] <Swindle> while [ $i -le $LINE ]
[21:40] <_Pb> hmm, i'm using dwm, how can i log out?
[21:40] <Swindle> do
[21:40] <Swindle> COMP=`awk 'NR=="$i" {print $2}' .transremote`
[21:40] <KnifeySpooney1> I'm making a backup of my profile, and I'm using 7zip. My backup script works but I want 7zip to output in "quiet" mode, but still show the percent completed. Any way of doing this?
[21:40] <FloodBot4> Swindle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <_Pb> 'gnome-session-save --kill --silent' does not work
[21:40] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, Still broken for me, didn't notice this until I tried to burn a cd.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: since compaq joined forces with HP its one big mess
[21:40] <fearzaurus> can I call you Dr_Billis?
[21:40] <noisecontrol> the other 3 pc's running nvidia under ubuntu work fine
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> co_shifty:  you could try k3b
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> fearzaurus:  i perfer to be called  the 'Dr of Love'
[21:40] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, I think it
[21:41] <guntbert> Swindle: this is not a programming channel - if you want to paste more than 3 lines please use a !pastebin
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> !awk
[21:41] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, * I think it's a system broblem, I just cant even see them in "Computer"
[21:41] <Swindle> sorry is there a programming channel
[21:41] <noisecontrol> ActionParsnip - the sad part is - I think they deliberately outmoded the original driver with a service pack in anticipation of purchases of Win7 Pcs.
[21:41] <guntbert> fearzaurus: please keep to the topic
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> co_shifty:  well a blank cd is not mountable, so that wouldent make much sence.. let me check here
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Swindle: you code is uninteligable, thats why pastebins are good, it also stops you scrolling the channel which is why the floodbot exists. use the pastebin and you can paste your entire code for a single link in the channel which not only makes the code readable but is also fairer to the other 1400 users
[21:42] <Fragsworth> I upgraded to 9.10 and now alt-shift-tab doesn't work
[21:42] <maco> Swindle: could you watch your language, please?
[21:42] <manuel_> hi, i have a problem, i cannot make work my mic, it worked in 9.04 with oss sound option, but now i can't find it, any idea?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: shame, i alays self build so dont have to put up with brands crap like that
[21:42] <Swindle> sorry ill leave lol... im causing probs
[21:42] <Swindle> thanks guys
[21:43] <manuel_> any idea of the mic prob?
[21:43] <noisecontrol> ActionParsnip - that would be an option if 50 somethings parents weren't in the mix saying if you break it you bought it
[21:43] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: i should also say that the disk I want to setup grub2 on is now a GPT partition scheme, not MS-DOS with its intolerable fragility
[21:43] <mrXX> what terminal command gives what device i have for recording sound?
[21:43] <noisecontrol> btw - Linux detects the Brightview monitor fine
[21:43] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, When it worked there was a dialogue box that poped up, asking if I wanted to start brazero, or open it, or something similar.
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> grub2-from-hell:  if you say its fragil im not going to argue. :) ill just have to say good luck with your work. ive never used GPT.
[21:44] <kevdog> mrXX: you mean info on your sound card?
[21:44] <kevdog> lshw
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: well ubuntu comes with no SLA and no warranty so its essentially the same thing
[21:44] <paradoxic> anyone know how I can install all the additional languages into ubuntu via command line
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> co_shifty:  thats not even poping up here.. i may of told it to never do that popup :)
[21:44] <mrXX> kevdog i mean i wanna see which mic I have cause my mic doesnt work
[21:44] <kevdog> lshw
[21:44] <kevdog> maybe
[21:44] <noisecontrol> ActionParsnip - I know - I've been using Linux since 2005
[21:44] <kevdog> sudo lshw
[21:45] <noisecontrol> its all around just a better solution
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> co_shifty:  but brasero is now working for me.  it wasent about 4 days ago, thats all i can really say
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: so why not ditch the brand stuff too ;)
[21:45] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: ok then, just one symptom that might ring bells with someone: the UUID on my /home partition seems to be changing whenever the system boots! as if it were reformatting itself, except it's not.
[21:45] <noisecontrol> Mom wants her Windows
[21:45] <KnifeySpooney1> anybody know what the official 7zip channel is? I've tried #7z, #7zip, and #p7zip
[21:45] <noisecontrol> she doesn't get it
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: can install windows on home made PC
[21:45] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, Oh ok, then maybe a config can reset that option, even still I tried to open it in brasero, and that doesn't detect it either.
[21:45] <noisecontrol> the question comes up
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> grub2-from-hell:  now that IS very odd..  only time ive ever seen teh UUID change is if the partion got resized. You can set the UUID with the tune2fs command.
[21:45] <noisecontrol> how can I print at school?
[21:46] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows how unistall all wallpaper clocks?
[21:46] <noisecontrol> I keep trying to tell her - Linux AUTODETECTS network printers
[21:46] <DriesSt> Hello
[21:46] <grub2-from-hell> UUIDs on my other partitions appear to be stable, unlike this one; they're all ext4, so I couldn't say what's the distinction
[21:46] <noisecontrol> she doesn't believe me
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: email file to school email account, print from there
[21:46] <DriesSt> after doing some updates on ubuntu, I get in the grub bootloader 2 times ubuntu, how can I fix this?
[21:46] <noisecontrol> you don't even need to do that
[21:46] <mrXX> is this my input device name -->  *-multimedia
[21:46] <mrXX>              description: Audio device
[21:46] <mrXX>              product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[21:46] <mrXX>              vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[21:46] <FloodBot4> mrXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: works here
[21:47] <noisecontrol> I know
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> noisecontrol: not that ive been in a school for about 14 years now
[21:47] <noisecontrol> the samsung brightview display is impossible to find specific drivers for
[21:47] <Vicfred> how do I resize a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[21:48] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: I wouldn't even notice that UUIDs were changing, except there's a boot msg complaining that it can't find /home by its UUID, where the other ones mount up fine
[21:48] <noisecontrol> so you are Forced to go with either Compaq or Nvidia for the vendor
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Vicfred: gparted in live cd can
[21:48] <gvsa123> can i upgrade via placing the iso of 9.10 on a usb and running the installation from there? i'm on the lts right now, but would like to upgrade.
[21:48] <noisecontrol> X11 on its own sorts it out with an Xorg -configure
[21:48] <grub2-from-hell> I've had to mount the device by its /dev/sdb5 identifier instead
[21:48] <Vicfred> ActionParsnip, I can't burn cds, my burner is not working
[21:48] <brmassa> guys, i know how to use RSYNC to create remote backups. but how to RESTORE them?
[21:48] <DriesSt> after doing some updates on ubuntu, I get in the grub bootloader 2 times ubuntu, I opened list.cfg but this file is empty. I also dualboot with windows 7.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Vicfred: boot from usb if your bios supports it
[21:49] <co_shifty> Dr_Willis, thanks for the help though, I'll ask around and see what I can do.
[21:49] <noisecontrol> time to check and see if the 144mb compaq proprietary driver set downloaded
[21:49] <noisecontrol> bbl
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> yowser
[21:50] <mysticalone> I'm trying to install TigerVNC using VirtualGL, I have VirtualGL installed but I need to know if I need xvnc
[21:51] <banisterfiend> .
[21:51] <phantomcircuit> gvfsd-metadata is using 100% of the CPU generating thumbnails for 720p videos, but so far has not succeeded in actually producing a single thumbnail
[21:51] <co_shifty> Hi guys, I can't read blank CDs, when I insert a disk the cd drive simply disappears on the "Computer" place.
[21:51] <phantomcircuit> so im guessing something has gone horribly wrong
[21:52] <onur> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 9.10. It's require a proprietary driver for my wireless adapter (Broadcom STA wireless driver). But I dont have a wired network connection. I want to install those packages from another machine but I dont know which packages should I download. How can I know which packages are required for my wireless?
[21:52] <phantomcircuit> any thoughts on how i should figure out whats happening?
[21:53] <FOrmode> It safe to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[21:53] <kadorkin> join
[21:53] <Omen_20> ubuntu needs to have its administrative work redone. The fact that it asks a non-administrator for their password when it knows they arent one is just retarded. It should ask the admin to give their password.
[21:54] <guntbert> !root  Omen_20
[21:54] <comuna> hola
[21:54] <FOrmode> Hola.
[21:54] <skinnYPuP> Omen_20, you can remove users from the sudo list
[21:54] <comuna> ohhhh por fin
[21:54] <kadorkin> #leave
[21:55] <comuna> tengo un problemilla
[21:55] <Berzerker> !es | comuna
[21:55] <comuna> a ver si alguien es tan amable de
[21:55] <comuna> gracias
[21:55] <FOrmode> comuna: Adios. :)
[21:56] <eeeBu> hi
[21:56] <FOrmode> Is it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage? Looking at installing Ubuntu but I don't really want half the applications it comes with.
[21:56] <eeeBu> can anyone please help me with a problem?
[21:56] <kadorkin> #ubuntu-uk-podcast
[21:56] <FOrmode> eeeBu: What's up?
[21:56] <kadorkin> #quit
[21:56] <Omen_20> my problem is when logged in as a user it asks for a password to do certain tasks but it isnt asking for mine, it is asking for theirs. But obviously theres doesnt work. You can get past it by going to Users and Groups and unlocking it, it gives you privileges but it should still be smart enough to not ask a non-admin for a admin level password.
[21:57] <eeeBu> got a big problem mate
[21:57] <n-iCe> eeeBu :) good luck.
[21:57] <Godfather_> hi
[21:57] <eeeBu> thanks n-iCe!....i need the luckj
[21:57] <eeeBu> lol
[21:57] <FOrmode> Omen_20: That's... how sudo works.
[21:57] <co_shifty> Hey, anybody know how to diagnose a cd-rom? Mine can't seem to detect blank CDs :-(
[21:57] <songer> I can't set my resolucion after active visual effects
[21:57] <eeeBu> well before i lay out a long essay.....does anyone know to boot from a device from ubuntu 9.04
[21:58] <mrXX> can someone help me make my mic work, it is acer aspire
[21:58] <FOrmode> eeeBu: You mean boot from a device from bios?
[21:58] <mka> FOrmode: you rather remove the applications you dont want rather than ubuntu-desktop
[21:58] <hayt> set -c activity_hide_level
[21:58] <eeeBu> yes, i want to boot from USB so i can install karmic
[21:58] <FOrmode> mka: To remove the application I need to remove ubuntu-desktop medapacage
[21:58] <mun25> how to take the backup of ubuntu machine
[21:58] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: another question that may pertain: are there any gotchas with having the same /home fs mounted for different flavors of linux?
[21:58] <mrXX> I think i have the drivers installed, but still it doesnt work
[21:59] <FOrmode> eeeBu: When you restart you will get a bios prompt saying "Press __ to select boot device" just press that and pick cd
[21:59] <grub2-from-hell> Dr_Willis: i don't just mean a different kernel on the same root fs
[21:59] <eeeBu> F0rmode: unfortunatly not mate, what i get is an option to boot XP or ubuntu 9.04
[21:59] <FOrmode> grub2-from-hell: Your personal settings are saved to both, but otherwise shouldn't be much of a problem as long as they're both using fairly similar versions of everything
[21:59] <milo__> how do i change the screen resolution of my laptop? I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and since, im having trouble with my screen resolution( i think it's too big) :( i really need your help guys
[21:59] <FOrmode> eeeBu: That's grub right?
[22:00] <grub2-from-hell> FOrmode: thanks for the tip
[22:00] <mka> mun25: use partimage
[22:00] <eeeBu> yes, with grub2 i had to enter command-line and type some commands
[22:00] <micheal> what command do i use to grant premissions to write in any dir?
[22:00] <eeeBu> that dont work on grub
[22:00] <FOrmode> eeeBu: Yeah. I mean *at bios* before grub
[22:00] <mun25> on external hard drive
[22:00] <manuel_> guys , i have a big prob, my mic doesn't work, and it used to work in 9.04 with oss server
[22:00] <mka> micheal: chmod
[22:00] <eeeBu> F0rmode: ive got Bios set to run USB as 1st priority
[22:01] <FOrmode> Safe to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[22:01] <FOrmode> eeeBu: Is the USB properly set up as a boot device?
[22:01] <eeeBu> yes using Unetbootin (ive done it before since i installed karmic first and decided to try out 9.04)
[22:01] <micheal> mka: how to i use it? i need to copy somethings to usr/lib/
[22:02] <KEFIR> guys, xampp gui not working, when I'm tring to do sudo /path/to/xampp/lampp panel it says me this http://paste.org.ru/?zfc8eq
[22:02] <milo__> screen resolution problem!! Im actually using a "vesa" driver. Im a newbie to Linux :( :(
[22:02] <FOrmode> eeeBu: Unetbootin is notorious for not working. Try formatting the drive then installing unetbootin on it.
[22:02] <KEFIR> how tu cure?
[22:02] <mka> micheal: sudo cp <something> /usr/lib
[22:02] <mun25> mka: How to take bare metal backup through network of ubuntu
[22:02] <micheal> mka:i thought nautilas would work, but i was wrong.
[22:02] <Omen_20> FOrmode, that seems like a very backwards way of doing it. But I'm not just mad about that. Making a new account on Karmic has been a nightmare. For some reason compiz has decided to not work on other accounts. Theres so many bugs in karmic it isnt even funny.
[22:02] <AegNuddel> bye
[22:02] <FOrmode> Omen_20: Wrong highlight?
[22:03] <eeeBu> F0rmode: i have extracted the ISO on the USB using unetbootin three time successfully
[22:03] <manuel_> please anyone can help me with mi mic?
[22:03] <eeeBu> F0rmode: my problem is getting the USB to boot at startup
[22:03] <mka> mun25: what do you mean by bare metal?
[22:03] <mka> mun25: partimage can clone the whole ubuntu over the network
[22:03] <Formode> eeeBu: Yes but if it's skipping the USB device at boot, it means theres nothing to boot from.
[22:03] <micheal> mka: cp: missing destination file operand after `usr/lib'. nope
[22:03] <eeeBu> Formode: no mate, cause when i installed karmic it did the same thing
[22:04] <eeeBu> so i pressed 'C' to enter command line
[22:04] <S4nD3r> Hi, I have a problem with wireless card. I followed these http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt and, finally, worked. But, every boot, I need to repeat the process. How to solve it?
[22:04] <Formode> eeeBu: Yes, mate, that's how it's programmed.
[22:04] <eeeBu> then "root (hd0,4)
[22:04] <manuel_> i have a little problem with my computer microphone, someone can help me?
[22:04] <eeeBu> etc. and it worked
[22:04] <mka> micheal: you don't have write permissions to /usr/lib
[22:04] <mka> micheal: as long as you run nautilus as root, everything will work
[22:04] <q0_0p> eeeBu, i used grub to boot usb at boot
[22:05] <micheal> mka: i ran nautilus but it stills says i do not have premissions
[22:05] <eeeBu> how?
[22:05] <mka> micheal: it should be /usr/lib not usr/lib
[22:05] <q0_0p> eeeBu, i typed in root (hd1,0)
[22:05] <q0_0p> eeeBu, and then chainloader +1
[22:05] <mka> micheal: there is the is a slash
[22:05] <q0_0p> eeeBu, then it booted usb
[22:05] <eeeBu> ive tried that mate
[22:05] <mka> micheal: of course you dont have permissions
[22:06] <micheal> mka: how come?
[22:06] <KEFIR> could anyone help with this message http://pastebin.org/58226
[22:06] <mysticalone> Need help installing TigerVNC
[22:06] <eeeBu> i thought when i type "root (hd0,4)" it should give me some feedback but it doesnt
[22:06] <mka> micheal: try CTRL+F2 then type gksu nautilus
[22:06] <mka> micheal: you are NOT the root
[22:07] <q0_0p> eeeBu, hd0 should be ur main harddrive in ur cpu right?
[22:07] <MrSnead> hello
[22:07] <co_shifty> Hi, my CD Drive reads CDs fine, but it has a problem reading blank cds, any tips?
[22:07] <q0_0p> eeeBu, shouldn't it be hd1?
[22:07] <eeeBu> yes
[22:07] <mka> micheal: you need to run "sudo" or "gksu" so get permissions
[22:07] <eeeBu> no cause the 4 is USB
[22:07] <MrSnead> I've recently lost my grub
[22:07] <q0_0p> eeeBu, ah
[22:07] <biovore> co_shifty: works better when you put stuff on the CD..
[22:07] <eeeBu> (hd0,4)
[22:07] <q0_0p> eeeBu, ah i c
[22:07] <mka> co_shifty: how was it supposed to read a blank CD?
[22:07] <micheal> mka: i running gksudo
[22:07] <MrSnead> some kernel update or something installed grub2 now I can't boot my system
[22:08] <eeeBu> it worked with grub2 but not with grub :(
[22:08] <q0_0p> eeeBu, i dont like grub2
[22:08] <mka> co_shifty: try gksu not gksudo
[22:08] <Introuble> hi...i want to use opencv library in anjuta... but i don't know where to add the path to the include files and libraries in the gui
[22:08] <Introuble> can someone help please
[22:08] <mka> co_shifty: sorry
[22:08] <micheal> mka: i continue getting this error: The folder "dockbar" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to create it in the destination
[22:08] <eeeBu> i do! lol...works better
[22:08] <q0_0p> eeeBu, how did u get usb to load with grub2?
[22:08] <q0_0p> eeeBu, can u give me an example?
[22:08] <MrSnead> So can I move back to grub from grub2
[22:08] <eeeBu> "root (hd0,4)"
[22:08] <eeeBu> "find / <tab>"
[22:08] <eeeBu> "exit"
[22:09] <q0_0p> eeeBu, what that's it
[22:09] <eeeBu> and wala!...it was ready to run
[22:09] <q0_0p> eeeBu, find the iso?
[22:09] <co_shifty> mka, well, I'm trying to burn an ISO, a dialogue box used to pop up with a brasero option. But now it does not come up and brasero cant see the cd.
[22:09] <mka> micheal: Press CTRL and F2 and type gksu nautilus
[22:09] <q0_0p> eeeBu, find / <tab> is finding the iso?
[22:09] <mka> micheal: did you do that?
[22:09] <eeeBu> yeh i think...it lists whats in the directory
[22:10] <micheal> mka: yea, i tried it in terminal and i got this error: syntax error near unexpected token `. then i tried it in desktop wit no results
[22:10] <mka> co_shifty: did you try another burner?
[22:10] <eeeBu> q00p: with grub "exit" is not recognised
[22:10] <eeeBu> nor is "find /"
[22:10] <kob_Boudha> hi all can someone help me for install alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2 ?
[22:10] <micheal> mka: i used nautilus yesterday without a problem, dnt know what changed
[22:11] <mka> micheal: what command did you try to run in terminal?
[22:11] <MrSnead> I need help restoring my boot loader
[22:11] <co_shifty> mka, don't have another burner, it used to work :/
[22:11] <mka> micheal: did you paste anything in the /usr/lib folder by nautilus?
[22:11] <eeeBu> so can anyone help me out??
[22:11] <kob_Boudha> hi all can someone help me for install alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2 ? plz
[22:12] <micheal> mka: no, i didnt open a folder
[22:12] <mwe> trying to install a .deb, but the embedded install script rejects version 10.04, is there a standard command used to lookup the ubuntu version that could be temporarily changed for this one install?
[22:12] <Berzerker> eeeBu, what are you trying to do?
[22:12] <eeeBu> berzerker got time for a 1 - 1 (lol)
[22:12] <eeeBu> it will be easier
[22:12] <din__> hi there. I don't know if I'm right here for this but there is an ugly bug in Ubuntu.
[22:12] <mka> micheal: nautilus is working fine, BUT, you do not have permissions to write to the /usr/lib folder
[22:12] <Berzerker> eeeBu, maybe
[22:12] <eeeBu> Im trying to get 9.04 to boot my USB stick which has karmic ISO on
[22:12] <epaphus> Hello, when I try to open .pdf documents it tries to open but immediately quits. What could be wrong?
[22:13] <mka> micheal: and I cannot believe that terminal cannot do that successfully
[22:13] <Berzerker> eeeBu, so you're trying to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10?
[22:13] <din__> The Grub package announced by the package updater makes the boot process of any sistem corrupt this time
[22:13] <micheal> mka: then how to i get permission?
[22:13] <mka> micheal: "gksu" or "sudo"
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[22:14] <epaphus> what pdf reader does ubuntu come with? and how can I uninstall and isntall it back?
[22:14] <mka> micheal: can you please tell me what do you want to put where and from where?
[22:14] <scramjet> did 910 come with a console browser
[22:14] <scramjet> as in defualt
[22:14] <mka> epaphus: evince
[22:15] <DugenNash> Howdy, I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for flatscreen monitors that work well with Ubuntu/Linux
[22:15] <mshadle> i am running hardy right now, and when i do "do-release-upgrade" it doesn't work. "do-release-update -d" tries to push lucid on me. i want to upgrade to karmic.
[22:15] <micheal> mka: i think i got nautilas to work now, had to open a new terminal
[22:15] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, i can't uninstall the wallpaper clocks i got... does anybody knows what can i do?
[22:15] <maweki> @mshadle I have more than one good working acer
[22:16] <maweki> @DugenNash I have more than one good working acer
[22:16] <DugenNash> maweki: thanks I was thinking of going with an acer
[22:16] <mka> !karmic
[22:17] <maweki> has anybody problems with icq? I can't connect with pidgin since today
[22:17] <epaphus> when i do apt-get install something, it tries to use a very old proxy i once configured in my firefox.. right now i dont use proxies.. how can I make it so it doesnt then?
[22:17] <rork> milo__ can you run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' (this will just print the contents of that file) and copy the results to pastebin
[22:17] <mshadle> yes but how can i use "do-release-upgrade" to get to karmic from hardy?
[22:17] <micheal> anyone know where the theme files are located?
[22:17] <mwe> trying to install a .deb, but the embedded install script rejects version 10.04, is there a standard command used to lookup the ubuntu version that could be temporarily changed for this one install?
[22:17] <milo__> ok. give me a sec
[22:18] <maweki> epaphus: how old is your installation?
[22:18] <epaphus> maweki, my ubuntu? its 8.10
[22:18] <maweki> epaphus, was it an older release before?
[22:18] <plitter> anybody here using linphone and doing it successfully?
[22:18] <epaphus> maweki, never
[22:18] <krushik> how can I find out which packages were installed from some distribution (default is another one)?
[22:18] <epaphus> it somewhere has stored that old proxy
[22:18] <Hans-Martin> maweki: I've got the same symptom here - ICQ doesn't work
[22:19] <milo__> please give me the URL for the pastebin
[22:19] <maweki> epaphus, there's a file in /etc/ that set proxy settings. Maybe to look there
[22:19] <rork> milo__: See topic, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:19] <maweki> Hans-Martin, then it's not just me. Waiting for a fix
[22:19] <dAlfa89_> !pastebin | milo__
[22:19] <epaphus> maweki, thanks
[22:19] <Hans-Martin> maweki: looks like either the AIM server is down or they changed the protocol again...
[22:19] <q0_0p> eeeBu, i used unetbootin
[22:19] <q0_0p> eeeBu, to boot usb
[22:20] <milo__> rork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/330614/
[22:20] <newbie002> hi, I'm using an hdmi monitor, the screen is too large,, or the monitor is too small. I can't resize the display as I would a VGA monitor. does anyone know how to get the screen smaller? (It's like 10 pixels too wide on each edge, so I cannot see the task bars)
[22:20] <Neremor> I've some problems getting fluidsynth to work correctly. I'm using pulseaudio as sound server and noteedit for midi creation. Right now I got the sound working, but it is stuttering a lot. I allready tried to increase the process priority of QSynth (which i use to configure fluidsynth) but the sound is still stuttering... any ideas what i could do?
[22:21] <mka> micheal: did you succeed?
[22:21] <Hans-Martin> maweki: The aim.com website sez: Desktop version is not available for Linux platform at
[22:21] <Hans-Martin> the moment, launch on the web with AIM Express.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> Theres not been a Linux Native AIM (by the aim guys) for a long time.
[22:21] <klenwell> I was able to install 8.04 on sister's old Dell laptop without a hitch!  Thanks, all!
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> I think meebo.com can also do AIM. :) if ya want a web interface
[22:22] <Berzerker> meebo and beejive
[22:22] <skinnYPuP> newbie002, there are sometimes some freq settings in the monitor's own menu that can help with that..   if you're monitor doesn't you may need some custom mode lines in your xorg file. I recently used a mode line generator i found on google to do so .
[22:22] <maweki> Hans-Martin, that's why I'm using pidgin. I don't want them to officially support pidgin, I want them to keep their protocols
[22:22] <epaphus> maweki, i did a grep -r inside /etc with the IP of the proxy my system tries to connect to and no luck
[22:23] <newbie002> skinnYPup: the monitor refuses to resize or strech in the current mode, for TV it would work
[22:23] <newbie002> I'll try the mode line approach
[22:24] <skinnYPuP> newbie002, those modeline's in the xorg tweak such settings ... its not really noob territory though
[22:24] <Hans-Martin> maweki: oh, ok, I did not think about pidgin not being AIM software.
[22:24] <maweki> epaphus, there's only one remaining thing where this is saved: try gnome-network-properties in the console
[22:24] <skinnYPuP> newbie002, make sure to read up on it b4 you dive in. and back up your xorg.conf incase a new modeline you try leaves you with no display
[22:25] <newbie002> skinnYPup: the tv resolution is odd 1366x768
[22:25] <epaphus> maweki, bash: gnome-network-properties: command not found ...
[22:25] <rork> milo__: according to your xorg.conf I'd say all resolution between 1280x1024 and 640x400 should be in the options list, I'm not familiar enough with GNOME to know why they aren't but I stumbled upon this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333350
[22:25] <skinnYPuP> newbie002, thats cool. I'm not very versed in the subject but i believe i have you pointed in the right direction so you can have some more pertinant things to google for or ask on here or the ubuntu help forums
[22:26] <userone> i am trying to get my freecom dvb-t usb stick to work. i read the forums and installed kaffeine (on gnome 9.10) but its not finding my usb stick. any ideas?
[22:26] <maweki> epaphus, that's strange, that's gnome's proxy-settings-editor. Maybe the setting was made but you do not have the editor installed which would make you not find the setting
[22:26] <newbie002> skinnYPup:thanks
[22:26] <userone> i tried sudo dmesg, what do i look for?
[22:27] <userone> the usb stick icon hasnt appeared on my desktop
[22:27] <skinnYPuP> newbie002, you have private message
[22:28] <userone> nothing appears in the 'source' tab in channel scan
[22:30] <Gizmo_the_great> any1 know where the indexing service, trackerd, stores its index on the system?
[22:30] <milo__> yeah i just added that line myself :)
[22:31] <baturday> I keep crashing and rebooting , i looked in /var/log can't see anything suspicious , is it possible its crashing and not having time to wright to logs?
[22:31] <Varth> I'm trying to restore GRUB on my Win7/Ubuntu 9.10 installation by using Unetbootin to boot into a live Ubuntu session, but once I create the USB drive and reboot, I just get a blinking cursor and nothing else. Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening?
[22:32] <matt__> Installation of 32bit 9.10, trying to run Songbird, it seems there is a problem with bash/sh or something...because I get the error bad interpreter....
[22:33] <boscop> after booting my volume is at 0. how can I tell ubuntu to restore the volume from the last session?
[22:33] <hulkguy> I need help with my sound
[22:33] <soreau> What if your 'File Edit' etc menu is missing from apps? What setting controls this in gnome?
[22:34] <KnifeySpooney> Is this a correct cron tab to run the specified script at 4:00am every Tuesday? - 00 04 * * 2 /media/win7/ubuntu/backup/backup.sh
[22:34] <matt__> Double clicking the songbird-bin file brings me "there is no application for executionable files".
[22:34] <epaphus> could anybody suggest me an alternative pdf reader? evince crashes on me every time i open something
[22:35] <maweki> matt__: right click on the file and check "executionable"
[22:35] <userone> epaphus: adobe reader (acroread) may still be available
[22:35] <maweki> matt__, right click and go to properties and there...
[22:35] <boscop> epaphus: okular
[22:35] <ShockF> hi i installed ubuntu side by side by accident is it possible to uninstall ubuntu so i can put it in a partition?
[22:35] <coz_> epaphus,   foxit reader for linux is much faster
[22:36] <userone> kaffeine doesnt seem to play any files, so i think that is the problem rather than the usb stick
[22:36] <matt__> maweki: Wouldn't that do the same as chmod +x?
[22:36] <maco> ShockF: the side by side option DOES put it on its own partition
[22:36] <boscop> after booting my volume is at 0. how can I tell ubuntu to restore the volume from the last session?
[22:37] <ShockF> maco : hmm its weird because i cant seem to be able to boot from it or find it
[22:37] <server_>  irc.powerirc.org
[22:37] <userone> how can i play vob files. movie player isnt playing them. totem or gxine?
[22:37] <maco> ShockF: er...wait did you use wubi?
[22:37] <maweki> matt__, in general, yeah, did you allready do that? sry
[22:37] <ShockF> no i didnt
[22:38] <useruseruser> yay
[22:38] <hulkguy> my sound card is not working i need help
[22:38] <matt__> maweki: Yes:) It is...so very very weird....almost like something didn't install right...it is a fresh install...I'm going to try a reboot since I just updated everything...suppose it's possible something isn't loaded right...
[22:38] <rstob911> userone: you need to read this page   it has the codecs you need    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[22:38] <boscop> userone: or vlc
[22:38] <userone> rstob911: thanks...reading...
[22:39] <ShockF> maco : no i didnt do i have a problem then?
[22:39] <maco> ShockF: what OS are you in right now?
[22:39] <maco> ShockF: windows?
[22:39] <ShockF> windows xp sp3
[22:39] <coz_> hulkguy,   open a terminal  and type    alsamixer   see if the card is recognized  and then check if any of the sliders are off volume or muted  especially PDM
[22:39] <maco> ShockF: can you boot from the ubuntu cd?
[22:39] <Varth> I'm trying to restore GRUB on my Win7/Ubuntu 9.10 installation by using Unetbootin to boot into a live Ubuntu session, but once I create the USB drive and reboot, I just get a blinking cursor and nothing else. Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening?
[22:39] <ShockF> maco : ermmm i think so
[22:40] <maco> ShockF: boot from that then come back to the channel
[22:40] <ShockF> ok
[22:40] <maco> ShockF: i dont know how to use windows :P
[22:40] <ShockF> maco : np its ok
[22:40] <ShockF> brb
[22:40] <hulkguy> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:41] <hulkguy> ubuntu 9.10
[22:41] <coz_> hulkguy,  ooo
[22:41] <matt__> So after a reboot, Songbird still gives this message:
[22:41] <matt__> bash: /home/matt/Data/Programs/Songbird/songbird-bin: Permission denied
[22:41] <userone> rstob911: thanks, i missed that when i serached dvb-t in the forums
[22:42] <coz_> hulkguy,   try in the #alsa channel  they may have more info
[22:42] <hulkguy> ok ty
[22:42] <th0r> matt__: check who owns songbird in that folder...should be you but I think it will be root
[22:42] <coz_> who wanted a PDF reader?
[22:42] <maweki> matt__, that's pretty strange. Are you sure, your chmod-settings are indeed correct?
[22:43] <maweki> th0r, good shot
[22:43] <matt__> th0r: Owner is me.
[22:43] <teamcoltra> I think that there is something wrong with my wifi, I have gone through the troubleshooting, and its still not connecting, it was just fine the other night, and every other computer in the house can connect to it. I can connect being hard wired... but not over the air
[22:44] <th0r> matt__: then make sure it is executable....should be rwxr..xr..x
[22:44] <useruseruser> its quiet for >1000 ppl
[22:44] <usr13> teamcoltra: Is it picking up the essid?
[22:44] <matt__> maweki: Yes, the checkbox is even checked on right click.
[22:44] <poutine> useruseruser, your mother is a whore
[22:44] <usr13> teamcoltra: iwconfig
[22:44] <teamcoltra> usr13, yes
[22:44] <krabador> hi people, my hp pavilio dv6-1350 have 3 primary partition, if i set a root , i can't set a swap partition. i dont want rebuild the disk for the first period, how can i do to install karmic'
[22:44] <krabador> ?
[22:45] <usr13> teamcoltra: No IP information?  ifconfig
[22:45] <th0r> matt__: and make sure you own everything in that folder....not just songbird-bin
[22:45] <vermapratyush_> i jus installed ubuntu netbook in my external HDD .. and the new grub was also installed in the HDD .. but i want the grub in my internal HDD how do i do that??
[22:45] <matt__> th0r: I do...
[22:45] <teamcoltra> usr13, it gives me the spinning wheel trying to say it connecting
[22:45] <th0r> matt__: have you tried running it from that  folder via a terminal? It might show you more about what is going wrong
[22:45] <usr13> teamcoltra: Having trouble with dhcp?
[22:45] <teamcoltra> usr13, but then it asks for the WPA password again, even though it already has it... so I put it in again, then gives me the spinning wheel... then asks for the password again
[22:46] <vermapratyush_> i jus installed ubuntu netbook in my external HDD .. and the new grub was also installed in the external HDD .. but i want the grub in my internal HDD how do i do that???
[22:46] <teamcoltra> usr13, :P I don't know what I am having trouble with
[22:46] <matt__> th0r: That is what I usually do....
[22:46] <Varth> I'm trying to restore GRUB on my Win7/Ubuntu 9.10 installation by using Unetbootin to boot into a live Ubuntu session, but once I create the USB drive and reboot, I just get a blinking cursor and nothing else. Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening?
[22:46] <usr13> teamcoltra: Ok you have wpa authentication problem.
[22:46] <matt__> th0r: ./songbird-bin gives me bash: ./songbird-bin: Permission denied
[22:46] <teamcoltra> usr13, its been working fine...
[22:46] <teamcoltra> up until last night
[22:46] <vermapratyush_> some1 please help.. i jus installed ubuntu netbook in my external HDD .. and the new grub was also installed in the external HDD .. but i want the grub in my internal HDD how do i do that??
[22:46] <maweki> th0r, if it says permission denied it's a bash-message. It must be something wrong with chmod, but I don't see it
[22:46] <usr13> teamcoltra: You need to find out what has changed.
[22:46] <skinnYPuP> vermapratyush_, you'll need to add the path to the external drive into a grub option line. Then you can choose it at boot
[22:47] <skinnYPuP> google usb grub
[22:47] <kwyjibo> hello. i just installed ubuntu on my new laptop. but the fan is running on high non-stop. how can i get it to properly control the fan?
[22:47] <teamcoltra> usr13, nothing... front end wise, I was just chatting with friends on IRC and wammo no internet
[22:47] <th0r> matt__: it might not be a permission issue with songbird-bin, might be a permission issue with something that is being called by songbird-bin
[22:47] <usr13> teamcoltra: SOMETHING changed.
[22:48] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, at the moment the grub is installed in my USB.. but i want it in my internal HDD..
[22:48] <usr13> teamcoltra: Try powercycling the router.
[22:48] <skinnYPuP> do you have a current grub on the internal HDD ?
[22:48] <userone> another problem solved courtesy of ubuntu channel... thanks..bye
[22:48] <c3l> how do i get vim to highlight html and css code? whats the package name?
[22:48] <krabador> hi people, my hp pavilio dv6-1350 have 3 primary partition, if i set a root , i can't set a swap partition. i dont want rebuild the disk for the first period, how can i do to install karmic?
[22:48] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, yes but it is inactive
[22:49] <matt__> th0r: Maybe...it's just so weird...I've never had this problem before...just switched from 64bit ubuntu to 32bit for a few program compatabilities....figured 32bit would be just as easy...but no.
[22:49] <skinnYPuP> google "irenstall grub ubuntu" you should catch on quickly
[22:49] <teamcoltra> useruseruser, tried power cycling the router 3 times, and have rebooted my machine 3
[22:49] <teamcoltra> whoops usr13 *
[22:49] <skinnYPuP> reinstall srry spelling
[22:49] <mattcen> c3l: You install vim-full (on Ubuntu < 9.10) or vim (on 9.10), and then you can turn on syntax highlightling with ':syntax on' while in command mode
[22:49] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, thaks
[22:49] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, thanks
[22:49] <maweki> matt__, and you did download the x86 executables?
[22:49] <skinnYPuP> sure thing
[22:49] <NeoCicak> hi all.. is it ok for me to install libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 together?
[22:50] <mattcen> c3l: vim-nox should also work if you don't want Gvim included
[22:50] <matt__> maweki: Yes
[22:50] <rumpel_> krabador, swap is not necessary
[22:50] <MrSnead> can anyone help me with Grub
[22:50] <usr13> teamcoltra: make sure you are entering wpa passwd correctly
[22:50] <MrSnead> my system won't boot, just hangs at a blinking cursur
[22:50] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, one more thing .. how to i open the grub command prompt in grub2
[22:51] <teamcoltra> usr13, yes... entered correctly, I have even copied and paste(d?) directly from the router settings
[22:51] <teamcoltra> usr13, here is my error log http://paste2.org/p/537777
[22:51] <usr13> teamcoltra: What is your wifi device?
[22:51] <rednuker> hello, what is the best IDE to begin learning Python?
[22:51] <focus_> can some one offer me some help with a wacom tablet
[22:51] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, i do not get it by just typing "grb" in the terminal
[22:51] <skinnYPuP> vermapratyush_, IDK anything about grub2 yet
[22:51] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, k
[22:51] <maweki> matt__, that's very strange and if you do own everything that is needed and alle the rights are set correctly, i'm out of ideas
[22:51] <krabador> rumpel_, i've 4gb ram, but it's all right without swap?
[22:51] <teamcoltra> usr13, I presume nm_setting_802_1x_get_pkcs11_engine_path: assertion `NM_IS_SETTING_802_1X (setting)' failed
[22:51] <teamcoltra> ^ is my problem
[22:52] <kwyjibo> can someone help me get my system properly controlling my laptop fan?
[22:52] <MrSnead> seemed to work fine until some Kernel upgrade added grub2 to my boot
[22:52] <rumpel_> krabador, you can add swap-partitions or swap-files later if you think you need them
[22:52] <vermapratyush_> can anyone please tell me how to open grub prompt on grub2 in terminal??
[22:52] <teamcoltra> usr13, Arthros something... or something... Is there a command I can run to tell me the exact name?
[22:53] <rumpel_> krabador, i have 2Gigs and i usually deactivate swap
[22:53] <krabador> rumpel_, ok
[22:53] <vermapratyush_> can anyone please tell me how to open grub prompt on grub2 in terminal???
[22:53] <skinnYPuP> vermapratyush_, I'd help ya out , but grub2 is on my list to learn about. I have heard of some cd iso's that will load usb drivers and boot o.s. on machines whose bios doesn't support usb boot. Maybe something can be learned from their methods. Does your pc not support boot usb ?
[22:53] <MrSnead> grub
[22:53] <mshadle> why is "do-release-upgrade" not working on hardy? i says no new release...
[22:53] <focus_> vermapratyush hold esc when it comes up
[22:54] <matt__> maweki: If you have a 32bit ubuntu, maybe you could try songbird from their homepage to see if it'll work for you?
[22:54] <maweki> matt__, yeah, wait a moment
[22:54] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, it supports usb boot up
[22:54] <MrSnead> how do you tell what but loader your using grub or grub2
[22:54] <usr13> teamcoltra: lspci |grep ireless
[22:54] <vermapratyush_> focus_, hold esc while bootup
[22:55] <vermapratyush_> focus_, ?
[22:55] <usr13> teamcoltra: Turn of wpa on the router.
[22:55] <inertial> anyone know if it's possible to make new files in a directory automatically inherit the access control list from the directory?
[22:55] <duffydack> mshadle, update-manager -d?
[22:55] <vermapratyush_> MrSnead, it work in grub2 but not in grub
[22:55] <teamcoltra> usr13, thats not an option. 1) Because its not "my" router to mess with and 2) we are charged for bandwidth here :\
[22:56] <whammo> can anybody recommend a GUI'd app for converting .wav. to .mp3 or vice-versa?
[22:56] <skinnYPuP> vermapratyush_, is usb set to a higher boot priority in the bios than the internal hdd ? I have  done several  usb drive installs with no problem booting up.
[22:56] <teamcoltra> usr13, I think I found my issue though... all these people are having the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134948
[22:56] <usr13> whammo: lame
[22:56] <whammo> usr13: cool I'll look there
[22:57] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, hmm.. lemme c try.. i think the external is on a higher priority than the interna;
[22:57] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, internal HDD
[22:57] <skinnYPuP> r/o other than that boot a live cd and reinstall grub would be my second try. Good luck!
[22:58] <vermapratyush_> skinnYPuP, k
[22:58] <teamcoltra> Okay next problem I can't seem to install: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[22:58] <whammo> usr13: I don't see it in the repos, is the audio high-enough quality to make it worth "going outside"?
[22:59] <focus_> some help with a wacom bamboo tablet please :(
[22:59] <whammo> usr13: whoops I see it in synaptic, nvm
[22:59] <rumpel_> teamcoltra, tried "ubuntu-restricted-modules-..." ?
[23:00] <teamcoltra> rumpel_, no love either
[23:00] <matt__> maweki: Anything?
[23:01] <maweki> matt__, I wrote you as a private message
[23:01] <rumpel_> teamcoltra, aptitude search restricted says "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[23:01] <maweki> matt__, I have a problem with xulrunner, but I do not experience your problems
[23:01] <matt__> maweki: Oh......I didn't get it...not in irssi.......
[23:01] <teamcoltra> rumpel_, from my understanding these are two seperate packages
[23:02] <maweki> matt__, I have no permission problems. When you extracted the files, did you keep the permissions?
[23:03] <maweki> matt__, there's a songbird-named shellscript. Try to execute it
[23:03] <matt__> maweki: I've tried so so much...I think it's a problem with bash...I remember....something along these lines I ran into a long time ago...something about ubuntu going from bash to something else...and I had to change something.
[23:03] <tom967> hi
[23:03] <rumpel_> teamcoltra, i have karmic and linux-restricted... is not in my package manager list...
[23:03] <asteig> How can I setup 1 SFTP user on port 22 but still have the REST of my users use my custom port?
[23:03] <matt__> maweki: shellscript? meaning ./songbird?
[23:03] <MrSnead> anyone else have grub/grub2 boot loading problems after the latest kernel upgrade
[23:03] <maweki> matt__, yeah
[23:03] <matt__> maweki: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[23:03] <matt__> maweki: I had to change the top line in the file or something like that...for that one problem....been so long though I cannot rememember.
[23:04] <kwyjibo> can someone help me in quieting my laptop's fans in ubuntu?
[23:04] <RickZilla> Having some connection speed issues on my laptop...where do I go in ubuntu to see what that speed is?
[23:04] <maweki> matt__, then change it to /bin/bash
[23:04] <maweki> matt__, but strangely, I use sh and bash side by side.
[23:05] <NeoCicak> hi all.. can anyone explain to me what this command does? ".  /opt/novell/eDirectory/bin/  ./ndspath"
[23:05] <matt__> same problem....
[23:05] <maweki> matt__, even if you try to execute the script? (./songbird)
[23:06] <MrSnead> anyone have problems with ubuntu boot loader after latest kernel update
[23:06] <matt__> maweki: Yes
[23:06] <MrSnead> maweki?
[23:06] <hulkguy> I need help with me sound. Can someone help me please?
[23:06] <matt__> maweki: When I double click the file I get There is no application installed for executable files
[23:06] <kostkon> !details | hulkguy
[23:06] <maweki> MrSnead???
[23:07] <MrSnead> I'm running Karmic and the latest update left my system sitting at a blinking cursor
[23:07] <fr33zer> Should "whiptail" be using 79% of my cpu?
[23:07] <kob_Boudhaa> me revoila
[23:07] <MrSnead> something has changed screwed my bootloader
[23:08] <MrSnead> I've booted into super grub iso but it can't fix it, I can boot to my system
[23:08] <poutine> please, "screwed" is a bit strong for this channel MrSnead, we much prefer the "anally raped" nomenclature, thanks
[23:09] <maweki> matt__, that is strange, no one on google seems to experience this. And since you have the right executables, it's even stranger
[23:09] <MrSnead> I can boot into my ubuntu with super grub iso and ran update-grub2 but that doesn't fix the problem
[23:09] <hulkguy> ubuntu 9.10. was a fresh install and sound was working. then 2 things are happening now is i need to boot in to recovery and type startx in order to get to the gnome desktop
[23:09] <kostkon> poutine, ...
[23:09] <matt__> maweki: I know...I wonder if the install went right...
[23:10] <hulkguy> and also sound is not working
[23:10] <matt__> I JUST Installed 9.10 32bit about 2 hours ago....just wondering...
[23:10] <RickZilla> Having some connection speed issues on my laptop...where do I go in ubuntu to see what that speed is?
[23:10] <maweki> matt__, I can think of nothing that screws the installation up in that way.
[23:10] <matt__> maweki: Yeah...something isn't quite right...America's Army "aryops" does the same thing...
[23:11] <maweki> matt__, and you have read/write-permission on all your partitions?
[23:11] <maweki> maybe check your mountpoints and such
[23:11] <matt__> maweki: I reckon...I'm trying something different right now...
[23:11] <maweki> or start over again, which I think is no viable option
[23:12] <AuToMaTiC> Hey do any of you think you can assist me?
[23:12] <AuToMaTiC> Can anyone help me with the installation of Ubuntu
[23:13] <maweki> AuToMaTiC, what's your problem?
[23:13] <manevra> hello
[23:13] <manevra> i need some help
[23:13] <AuToMaTiC> okay ive already installed it on its own partion
[23:13] <matt__> maweki: Ok, narrowed down the problem substantially:) I mount /dev/sdb1, a 1TB disk to /home/matt/Data/, if I extract the tar.gz to just /home/matt/, it runs...perfectly...it has something to do with permissions of the partition.
[23:13] <Broam> hello #ubuntu. Is there anyone here really good at bluetooth issues? I've got an esoteric one.
[23:13] <AuToMaTiC> when i try to load it in the bootmenu
[23:13] <Broam> manevra: this is the place.
[23:13] <MrSnead> can anyone help me with my bootloader
[23:13] <hulkguy> im still in need of someone to help me as well
[23:13] <AuToMaTiC> matt__ do you think you can help me out?
[23:14] <Broam> hulkguy: re-ask question please?
[23:14] <matt__> AuToMaTiC: Maybe?
[23:14] <zugiart> Guys, I dick around with modprobe and usb_storage. What is the command to basically 'reset the settings' so that my USB devices get detected normally again? Basically I am trying to plug in my Nokia e71 as a modem device
[23:14] <RickZilla> Really need some help with this please...Having some connection speed issues on my laptop...where do I go in ubuntu to see what that speed is?  Some sites are loading very, very slowly
[23:14] <maweki> matt__, do you have write-permissions on that partition?
[23:14] <matt__> maweki: I mount it as user,auto
[23:14] <Broam> RickZilla: there are some basic tools in System -> Admiinstration -> Network tools. Try traceroute
[23:14] <AuToMaTiC> Okay when i try loading Ubuntu from my bootloader it says finishing installation and a bunch of stuff comes up and it just stays there and nothing loads
[23:14] <matt__> maweki: And yes, i can create, delete, whatever on the partition
[23:15] <hulkguy> ubuntu 9.10. was a fresh install and sound was working. then 2 things are happening now is i need to boot in to recovery and type startx in order to get to the gnome desktop. Sound is not working how can i fix these 2 problems?
[23:15] <RickZilla> Broam: Thanks, what do I use for network address?
[23:15] <Broam> RickZilla: a site that is loading slowly
[23:16] <AuToMaTiC> Matt__: Do you know what my problem is?
[23:16] <Broam> RickZilla: it can take some time for this to complete
[23:16] <RickZilla> Broam:  K, but it loads fine on our desktop...just not on the laptop I'm on, using our home wireless, I've never had connection issues like this
[23:16] <matt__> AuToMaTiC: I've not been reading anything about you.
[23:17] <AuToMaTiC> what?
[23:17] <Broam> RickZilla: hmm. The desktop works, but the laptop doesn't?
[23:17] <maweki> matt__, I really don't get it.
[23:17] <matt__> maweki: I'll figure it out;)
[23:17] <AuToMaTiC> Okay when i try loading Ubuntu from my bootloader it says finishing installation and a bunch of stuff comes up and it just stays there and nothing loads
[23:17] <matt__> maweki: Thanks so much though!
[23:17] <pelmen> guys, I need help in creating multiboot usb drive. How should I start ?
[23:17] <RickZilla> Broam, yes, just loading very slowly on the laptop...several sites are
[23:17] <Broam> RickZilla: How many other wireless networks are in the immediate area? Also, what adapter are you using, and is anyone using a microwave oven?
[23:17] <Broam> (seriously, 'bout that microwave oven thing)
[23:17] <AuToMaTiC> matt__: Okay when i try loading Ubuntu from my bootloader it says finishing installation and a bunch of stuff comes up and it just stays there and nothing loads
[23:17] <hulkguy> 2 problems. I cant boot to my desktop with out using the recovery in grub also i cant get any sound now.
[23:17] <MrSnead> I need help, I'm using Karmic and the latest update left my system un-bootable. My system tries to boot but sits and a blinking cursor when the bootloader tries to run. I booted into "super grub iso" and tried to fix the problem but sgi states that It can't fix grub2. I used sgi to boot into my system then I ran update-grub2, rebooted but still no luvin, any help or suggestions?
[23:18] <bit000> Hi, all of my H.264 videos have bad colours in VLC and the media player that comes with Ubuntu. They work in XBMC though
[23:18] <RickZilla> no microwave in use right now...6 other networks being picked up
[23:18] <bit000> It looks like the red and green channels are flipped
[23:18] <execute> My computer suddenly shuts down every few hours. any ideas how to find the reason behind that? (Ubuntu 9.04)
[23:18] <Broam> execute: check your power management settings
[23:18] <RickZilla> Broam, not sure what you mean by adapter
[23:18] <Broam> execute: it could be trying to hibernate and failing
[23:18] <kx-a74> i have spent an hour on google trying to find the user manual for the Panasonic KX-A74 Tone Remote Controller. can anyone help?
[23:18] <matt__> AuToMaTiC: I have not idea about bootloaders:( But I do use one;)
[23:19] <AuToMaTiC> okay ima take a picture of it
[23:19] <Broam> kx-a74: this isn't the place, unless you're trying to get that to work with ubuntu
[23:19] <Broam> RickZilla: what kind of network card (wireless network card)
[23:19] <execute> Broam, its happening while I actively use the computer, I see no reason for it to try to hibernate
[23:19] <Docteh> !preseed
[23:19] <kx-a74> yes, i am using ubuntu and plan to use it with ubuntu
[23:19] <Docteh> odd
[23:19] <RickZilla> Broam, um, just a sec
[23:19] <Jkessler> execute:  maybe it's overheating?  or ram is failing?
[23:19] <kx-a74> or any gnu/linux live distro
[23:19] <mshadle> can someone help me with my upgrade to karmic? the output is here: http://pastebin.com/d70978a35
[23:19] <Docteh> whats the preseed file do thats on the livecd?
[23:20] <Broam> kx-a74: aa, with lirc? Hmm.
[23:20] <bluesscream> hulkguy: what happens if you do a normal boot? no graphics? Terminal?
[23:20] <execute> Jkessler, I don't know, how can I tell?
[23:20] <manevra> i have a quetion can anyone help me please?
[23:20] <kx-a74> but first i need to find the manual
[23:20] <Docteh> manevra: we wont know until its asked
[23:20] <Jkessler> execute:  http://www.bradtrupp.com/ubuntu-cpu-temperature.html
[23:20] <Broam> kx-a74: Hmm. That is a tough one. :) I take it giving the manuf a call is a waste of time?
[23:20] <execute> Jkessler, and how can I tell if the ram is failing?
[23:20] <hulkguy> I will get the splash screen but cant see the login screen.
[23:21] <manevra> Docteh how can i configure my desktop in latest ubuntu version 9.10 for that cube effect ?
[23:21] <Jkessler> execute: you can do a memory test with the ubuntu livecd
[23:21] <Jkessler> it's in the menu
[23:21] <Broam> mshadle: Interesting.
[23:21] <manevra> ti view the opened applications in a cube, and roll the cube with the mouse
[23:21] <RickZilla> Broam: Where do I go to get wireless card info?
[23:21] <Broam> RickZilla: gimme a second, digging myself
[23:21] <bobo> hey guys i've tried and failed to edit videos on my box with LiVES. what's another video editor that will edit videos (although i dislike comparing linux to m$) like Windoze Movie MAker?
[23:21] <execute> Jkessler, no way to do it from an installed ubuntu?
[23:22] <hulkguy> login screen is not there. Just black
[23:22] <Broam> execute: hit esc(ape) at the GRUB menu
[23:22] <Jkessler> it needs to be run from a livecd i think
[23:22] <Jkessler> because the memory is use for the os
[23:22] <AntORG> bobo: have you tried pitivi or openshot?
[23:22] <Broam> Jkessler: he can reboot into memtest if grub has it as an entry
[23:22] <bobo> yeah, i'm trying openshot right now. I havent heard of pitivi
[23:23] <bluesscream> hulkguy: your hardware?
[23:23] <Jkessler> broam, ah yes
[23:23] <Broam> RickZilla: if you are using network manager, clicking to select a wireless network might give you some clue
[23:23] <Broam> RickZilla: I'm not seeing a graphical utility, and that means fun with dmesg | grep
[23:23] <rickoshea67> bobo Try Openshot
[23:23] <AntORG> bobo: http://openshotusers.com/ it's a community site
[23:24] <manevra> Docteh do you know ?
[23:24] <execute> what's considered to be normal temperature?
[23:24] <bluesscream> hulkguy: esp graphic card?
[23:24] <RickZilla> Broam: I'll try it, but not real familiar with it
[23:24] <execute> (for CPU)
[23:24] <MrSnead> can anyone help me with Grub2
[23:24] <hulkguy> intel
[23:24] <hulkguy> intel gfx card
[23:24] <Broam> RickZilla: another way: who made your laptop? what make/model?
[23:24] <hulkguy> onboard sound and gfx card
[23:24] <Docteh> manevra: dont use the desktops, try asking your question without addressing me, and maybe you'll get an answer
[23:24] <bluesscream> hulkguy: intel graphics
[23:24] <RickZilla> Dell, inspiron E1505
[23:24] <hulkguy> yes
[23:25] <Broam> RickZilla: that will be enough...hitting dell's web site
[23:25] <Jkessler> execute:  google "your processor normal temperature"
[23:25] <Iowan> !grub2 MrSnead
[23:25] <MrSnead> Iowan, yes can you help
[23:25] <bluesscream> This is a fresh install? on fresh formatted partition?
[23:25] <hulkguy> fresh install yes
[23:25] <Iowan> !grub2 | MrSnead
[23:26] <GenericBox> How do I print to a printer connected to my network running on Windows?
[23:26] <Iowan> MrSnead: Hoping ubottu can
[23:26] <bluesscream> hulkguy: I had similar problems on a intel dominated notebook.
[23:26] <hulkguy> sound works on the windows side and use to on this install but then it stopped
[23:26] <Broam> RickZilla: oh dell...why do you swap out so many parts.
[23:27] <MrSnead> ubottu: thanks, I'll look
[23:27] <Broam> RickZilla: open up a terminal for me, simply because there's going to be a lot of data
[23:27] <RickZilla> Broam, k
[23:27] <Broam> RickZilla: run the command:  lspci
[23:27] <Broam> RickZilla: it should be listed in there, I don't need the full output
[23:27] <RickZilla> Broam, k
[23:27] <ShockF> ok im back ive reainstalled ubuntu into seperate a partition all i need to do now is add an entry into the windows boot loader any ideas how id do that?
[23:27] <maxo> hi, I just went on Ubuntuforums.org and it says my IP address is banned, but I've never posted anything bad or done anything wrong on there, so how do I get this problem fixed?
[23:28] <hulkguy> bluescream what should i do?
[23:28] <LjL> maxo: try asking #ubuntuforums
[23:28] <DasEi> maxo: what kind of connection are you on ?
[23:28] <maxo> DasEi: ADSL
[23:28] <bluesscream> hulkguy: I did a reinstall and now it's running perfectly with karmic in 2 partitions, one workspace, 1 experimental
[23:28] <maxo> DasEi: and I used to be able to go on there fine
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: instll grub to the MBR instead, it can boot windows too. the windows boot loader is a hunk of junk and only really boots windows
[23:29] <DasEi> maxo: restart router already might give you other ip
[23:29] <hulkguy> ok ill try reinstall
[23:29] <hulkguy> thanks
[23:29] <bluesscream> good luck
[23:29] <hulkguy> ty
[23:29] <maxo> DasEi: I'll try, though it happened the other day also and I think I've rebooted it since then
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: Microsoft ae very anti-any other operating system so dont expect you to want to add anything else, unlike Linux which accepts all
[23:30] <GenericBox> How do I print to a printer connected to my network running on Windows?
[23:30] <ShockF> @parsnip i had grub before didnt really like it and would rather have the windows bootloader
[23:30] <Broam> ActionParsnip: it's a little less adversarial than that, but basically the thinking is "Well if the person installed windows, they want to boot windows" so windows clobbers your bootloader
[23:30] <Broam> RickZilla: any luck?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: basically microsoft are closed minded idiots and the opensourced community encapsulate all, making them far superior in most cases
[23:31] <RickZilla> Broam, didn't list my network card, not that I could see anyway
[23:31] <Broam> RickZilla: hmm.
[23:31] <manevra> anyone here who can tell me how to configure my ubuntu desktop (version 9.10) for the cube effect, to view open applications in a cube ? and roll that cube on the desktop ?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Broam: i know but i thinnk its a pathetic standpoint
[23:31] <Broam> manevra: I think the package is "ccsm"
[23:31] <Davide> hi, how do i delete a gconf entry with the gconftool-2 command?  I accidentally created an entry with that command when I was trying to change a setting
[23:31] <Broam> manevra: and that's after doing a search for "compiz" in the software store
[23:32] <manevra> Broam how do i check if i have this package?:
[23:32] <Broam> RickZilla: do you have the ability to use an ethernet cable on your laptop, even for a short period of time?
[23:32] <Broam> manevra: just do a search for it in your favorite package manager
[23:32] <RickZilla> Broam, yeah, but I have to manually add network info
[23:32] <Broam> RickZilla: my thinking--if the laptop is slow only on wireless, it's your wireless. if it's slow even on the cable, then it's the laptop
[23:32] <soreau> ! ccsm | manevra
[23:33] <ShockF> ActionParsnip : i dont want to install grub so is there a way of getting around this?
[23:33] <Broam> thank you soreau
[23:33] <soreau> manevra: Make sure both 'Desktop Cube' and 'Rotate Cube' are enabled in !ccsm.  Then, in General Options --> Desktop Size, set the horizontal virtual size to 4.  Then you can grab the desktop with control+alt+left-mouse-button, and drag the cube around, or rotate the cube with control+alt+left/right.  See: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Cube
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: not sure, grub is a far better choice than microsofts worthless bootloader
[23:33] <RickZilla> Broam, makes sense to me, I'll look to troubleshoot that way
[23:33] <DasEi> maxo: I just logged in there, if you brought some time could loook for a staffer there
[23:33] <m3ga> i have a box connected directly to an adsl modem. the modem serves 192.X.X.X dhcp addresses but sometimes the box gets a 169.X.X.X address.
[23:33] <m3ga> how do i fxi this?
[23:34] <manevra> thanks soreau and Broam i will check for this package
[23:34] <danobook> i have ubuntu set to save my session automatically when i log out
[23:34] <DanaG> Random question: are there ubuntu powerpc livecds?
[23:34] <danobook> so i logged out with the battery info app open
[23:34] <danobook> and i log back it and there's two battery icons in teh bar
[23:34] <ShockF> ActionParsnip : like ive already said i dont like grub so why would i want it?
[23:34] <genii> m3ga: 169.x.x.x is the address an adapter gives itself when no dhcp server is found
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: even if i installed just windows i'd still install a small grub boot loader so microsoft's bootloader didnt have to exist
[23:34] <DasEi> m3ga: the 169.. pc gets if sth went wrong,  call :sudo dhclient
[23:34] <ScottG> I accidentally typed `mount /dev` and now /dev is empty except for a file named initctl. How can I fix this?
[23:34] <danobook> i rightclick  one and click remove and both go away
[23:34] <danobook> now how do i get one back
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> ShockF: i didnt see you say that
[23:35] <Broam> manevra: I just got soreau's advice to work, so it's definitely doable
[23:35] <m3ga> DasEi, genii : thanks.
[23:35] <danobook> any ideas?
[23:35] <ShockF> ActionParsnip : no problem
[23:35] <Davide> Anyone know?  how do i delete a gconf entry with the gconftool-2 command?  I accidentally created an entry with that command when I was trying to change a setting
[23:36] <DasEi> m3ga: interfaces set up correctly ?
[23:36] <m3ga> interfaces were working correctly. today when awol
[23:36] <ssam> DanaG, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[23:36] <robysath> Does UbuntuStudio by default use a realtime kernel?
[23:36] <danobook> how can i get the battery icon back now that i removed it?
[23:36] <Broam> Davide: I think it's the -e command (unset); I got this through --help-all
[23:37] <Broam> danobook: was it in the notification area, or the panel?
[23:37] <DasEi> m3ga: check /etc/network/interfaces for a line eth0 inet dhcp  , and above auto etho, maybe gateway with routers ip
[23:37] <Davide> Broam thank you let me give it a shot
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> robysath: if not you can install it easily
[23:37] <Broam> soreau: the cube is awesome. Thanks for the tip even if you were helping someone else
[23:37] <danobook> Broam, not actually sure, the default. basically i have it save sessions when i log out and i restarted with teh battery info window open, it came back up with two battery icons and removing one removed both.
[23:37] <DanaG> ssam: thanks.
[23:37] <soreau> Broam: np.
[23:38] <Broam> danobook: which desktop environment? GNOME?
[23:38] <m3ga> the /e/n/i entry is correct
[23:38] <danobook> yea, stock ubuntu system, installed yesterday
[23:38] <danobook> Broam, GNOME
[23:38] <Broam> danobook: system->preferences->powermanagement -> general
[23:38] <bouma> hello, im looking for help in getting a ubuntu drive booting again. the sata drive in question was taken from my friends machine and plugged into my external esata dock, to boot, and update 8.04 to the latest packages. then when it was returned to the original machine, it no longer boots or goes to the grub menu. will a 8.04_beta disc be good enough (all ive got) to give to my friend to rescue.
[23:38] <Broam> danobook: I assumed GNOME but thanks ;)
[23:39] <Broam> bouma: 8.04-beta should be enough if all you're doing is fixing the bootloader
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> bouma: rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:39] <lazerc> Is there a way to get ssh -D to take any traffic from all addresses?  It won't take arguments * or localhost, as "Bad dynamic port"
[23:39] <danobook> Broam, "Only display an icon when charging or discharging." was selected
[23:39] <danobook> i'm on battery right now, probably about 30%
[23:39] <Broam> danobook: for giggles, change it and change it back
[23:39] <danobook> k
[23:39] <Broam> danobook: if that's the cure, it's still annoying
[23:40] <danobook> well i got a popup: 24% remaining
[23:40] <Broam> Anyone in here want to help me with a bluetooth issue?
[23:40] <bouma> Broam:  if my friend boots from the 8.04_beta disc, and then picks "reinstall grub/mbr" option from the rescue mode, .. is this the correct action?
[23:40] <danobook> Broam, doesn't appear to have worked
[23:40] <Broam> bouma: I have never done it myself, but I believe that is what you need to do yes
[23:40] <DasEi> maxo: you want me to look for a admin in hthe forum ?
[23:40] <Broam> danobook: bleh...let me dig. I'm on a UPS & desktop right now but I can find a laptop
[23:40] <robysath> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:41] <danobook> Broam, ok thanks
[23:41] <Davide> Broam, it was -u for unset.  Thank you very much
[23:41] <Broam> danobook: I'd have you restart the gnome-panel, but that's even worse of a remedy if this is continual
[23:41] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> hi i want to create a virtual windows pc on my notebook (running ver. 9.10) can someone tell me the best program to use?
[23:41] <Broam> Davide: glad to be of service
[23:41] <danobook> Broam, i restarted and it didn't help
[23:42] <Broam> danobook: That is very strange...
[23:42] <epinky> !best | Fuzzy_Wuzzy
[23:42] <Broam> danobook: I am reaching the limit of my knowledge of that unfortunately.
[23:42] <danobook> i think i know how to reproduce it thuogh
[23:42] <danobook> can you say bug report? :P
[23:42] <Broam> danobook: might be worth filing a bug
[23:43] <rainbowinfinity> does anyone know if there is an application to convert video  .avi files to .amv files for viewing on an mp3 player??
[23:43] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me if there is a way to deboostrap or other where root is a different arch than the chroot?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: there is no best
[23:43] <danobook> Broam, is it an applet? if so what's the name of the battery applet process so i can start it
[23:43] <Broam> danobook: I bet it's gnome-power-manager
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: there is no best anything, even living isnt best for some people
[23:43] <Broam> danobook: let me pgrep for that
[23:43] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> is there an application to create a virtual windows pc on a machine running 9:10 karmic then
[23:44] <mshadle> http://pastebin.com/d70978a35 - can someone help me figure out why 9.10 no longer has a working /proc for me?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: vmware and virtualbox are 2 options, but they are not best, nor the worst
[23:44] <Broam> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: virtualbox, vmware-player (nonfree) are two I know of
[23:44] <danobook> Fuzzy_Wuzzy, yes, vmware or virtualbox
[23:44] <bouma> Broam: its strange, because she also has a seagate 1tb sata that has died (probable the well known firmware issue) and with it plugged in it intermittently makes it to the grub menu, but the linux kernel doesnt completely boot, it gives errors. with the 1tb removed it gives a grub error 16, or other grub errors. er16 is unrecognised device path or similar, and implies that the 1tb is somehow needed .. so that the 250G system drive has its 
[23:44] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> thanks guys
[23:44] <danobook>  - Power Manager is already running in this session.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: best makes you sound really immature
[23:45] <Broam> bouma: I think grub is looking for that drive then
[23:45] <Broam> ActionParsnip: easy there...
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Broam: its one of my biggest peaves
[23:45] <Broam> danobook: gnome-power-man
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Broam: it makes me want to grab my laptop and smash it up
[23:46] <Broam> ActionParsnip: oh I agree. We were all young once. We were all new once.
[23:46] <Broam> ActionParsnip: if you're going to do that, I know of a good home for it
[23:46] <danobook> Broam, seems like it's running but no icon
[23:46] <Broam> danobook: This is where I'd start cursing, so I'll say nothing instead ;)
[23:46] <danobook> ok
[23:46] <rainbowinfinity> can anyone point me in the direction of a forum that might be able to help me find an app to convert avi files to amv video files for an mp3 player???
[23:46] <bouma> Broam: i'd like to have her remove the 1TB and use the 8.04beta to rescue the mbr and ... right, so grub might be booting of the 1tb.. strange. because its ntfs, and doesnt have any linux, and also strange that the 250G drive booted fine from my esata before she left for her home to plug both drives
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Broam: oh i dont i just have to bite my tongue and write the usual stuff when someone says "what's the best"
[23:47] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: looking up amv video format
[23:47] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: what kind of player are you looking to transcode for?
[23:47] <rainbowinfinity> thanks you broam
[23:47] <rainbowinfinity> Broam: a sylvania smpk4083 4 g mp3 player
[23:48] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: oo, a common one that :(
[23:48] <rainbowinfinity> Broam: yeah I know....walmart black friday special
[23:48] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMV_video_format <- after reading that, I'd return it.
[23:49] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: hmmm
[23:49] <Broam> rainbowinfinity: my google-fu comes in spurts. http://www.bytessence.com/bmpxc.html <- this may or may not be helpful. I have never run it, and only found it. I am unsure of its license.
[23:50] <lint> can someone give me an idea of why my right click doesnt work in karmic koala?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Broam: people just seek the "best" little do thei tiny minds know its only a concept and not concrete
[23:50] <Jkessler> lint: try another mouse ?
[23:50] <Broam> Ladies and gentlemen, I've been given "that signal" that means I need to get off the computer
[23:50] <lint> i just bought this mouse.
[23:50] <Broam> I must go, I am sorry
[23:51] <awhatley> hey, how can I mount partitons upon startup
[23:51] <Jkessler> edit your fstab
[23:51] <awhatley> how to i do that
[23:52] <HilBilly> with pico/nano, joe, vi/vim, etc.
[23:52] <Jkessler> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/03/understanding-linux-etcfstab/
[23:52] <HilBilly> or gedit.
[23:52] <bouma> ActionParsnip: my friend was saying she wanted to smash her computer last night after i had her hdds for 2weeks and returned them and she couldnt boot. wanted to "return" to using windows, although she doesnt realise that recovering the registry would be significantly more involved than fixing ubuntu mbr. still its frustrating trouble shooting over a phone when the other person doesnt know how to get into the bios .. but luckly is willing 
[23:53] <Jkessler> awhatley: or just google /etc/fstab you'll find howtos, it's not too bad
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> bouma: thats different to users use of the word "best"
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> well, misuse
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> the rest i can deal wit
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> h
[23:54] <Iowan> awhatley: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[23:54] <awhatley> and how to i change how long my password is stored when running certian programs
[23:56] <mistahjc> can anyone tell me a good doc for ubuntu and how to install it i was having trouble with it las night
[23:56] <FCalderon> mistahjc, in ubuntu.com there's a wiki that will guide you through the install process
[23:57] <mistahjc> yes but witch one should i use
[23:57] <mistahjc> wbar
[23:57] <mistahjc> or what
[23:57] <mistahjc> what do you recomend
[23:57] <kristian1> does anyone here have a wd tv? im thinking of buying one but it doesn't support ext3 or 4. it supports only fat, ntfs, and hfs+. my external hd is currently ext3, and therefor i guess i have to format it to one of the supported file systems. however if i do, will i be able to transfer files from my hard disk where ubuntu is installed (ext3)?
[23:58] <FCalderon> mistahjc, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/index.html
[23:58] <Hamchan> Cairo-dock is usually pretty good, but some prefer awn.
[23:58] <bouma> is it possible for the grub.conf to be modified, by updating (including a kernel update) from a secondary machine's esata slot (with ahci in bios for the esata to work), such that the it would not boot correctly in the primary machine without ahci, and will rescue mode/ reinstall mbr/grub fix it, is it the most foolproof solution??
[23:58] <mistahjc> how do you install cairo doc
[23:59] <FCalderon> kristian1, yes, ubuntu supports vfat (fat32) and ntfs filesystems