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jkakarFYI, it looks like one of the loggerhead appserver is having issues.02:27
jkakarAt least, that's what I guess since I keep seeing "internal server error", but a reload works.02:28
lamotheAre you guys aware of general weirdness with LP to do with bzr and Loggerhead?03:57
lamotheGetting "Internal server errors".03:57
Jordan_UIs the ability to create PPAs for debian a high priority with the increased collaboration for 10.04?04:45
Jordan_UIt would be very usefull to me04:45
rippsJordan_U: Many PPA's and ubuntu packages already work with Debian. I know a couple debian users use my gmpc-trunk and mpd-trunk ppas05:26
Jordan_UIs launchpad down for everyone else?06:01
posullivyep, its down for me too06:02
anixxhi! Why did you disappear?06:03
ChrisMorganlaunchpad came down right in the middle of branching lp:inkscape... I /finally/ looked at the website and discovered that it was getting a 302 to offline.html, the branch command didn't tell me anything, only bzr lp-login was telling me what was happening... :-(06:07
Jordan_UI'd better file a bug report about launchpad being down06:08
ChrisMorganJordan_U: yeah... on launchpad :/06:09
ChrisMorganIt was down a while yesterday also06:09
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ChrisMorgan503 would be better than 302.06:11
PengShould file a bug about that.06:11
ChrisMorganBut you never can file a bug when you manage to reproduce it ;-)06:12
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micahgLP offline?06:15
^^Johnny5The Ubuntu launchpad app seems down is this alright?06:15
ChrisMorganmicahg: yep06:15
^^Johnny5How long do you know?06:16
micahgChrisMorgan: scheduled?06:16
micahgidr anything06:16
ChrisMorganIt's been down for 10-15 minutes06:16
^^Johnny5kk06:16
ChrisMorganI'm nothing to do with the Launchpad team... I was just in the middle of branching lp:inkscape06:16
KubuntiacIs Launchpad supposed to be down at the moment? ('Cause it is...)06:16
PengOK, someone needs to update the topic.06:17
^^Johnny5Yes I know someone sad down for 10 min app06:17
KubuntiacAh, cool.06:17
ChrisMorganKubuntiac: it's been down for 15 minutes, we're all rushing in and reporting it :D06:17
ChrisMorganBit more than 15 minutes actually06:17
Kubuntiac:)06:17
KubuntiacIt's probably down cause all the devs keep having to reply to questions like ours. lol06:17
^^Johnny5lol06:18
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lifelessif it was scheduled, it would be in the title bar06:19
* Kamping_Kaiser has his answer *g*06:19
Kamping_Kaiserthanks ;)06:19
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nigel_nbis launchpad down?06:19
DBOseconded06:20
Pengnigel_nb: yes.06:20
lifelessI'm escalating the problem now06:20
BugsbaneWould be cool to have some automated kind of "ping IRC when launchpad goes up/down"06:20
ChrisMorgan|AwayI doubt I was the first to come in... so that's at least 8 so far to report it :P06:20
nigel_nbBugsbane: I think there is a system.... us :P06:20
Bugsbanelol. HIS... "Human IRC System"06:20
nigel_nbyeah06:20
PengChrisMorgan|Away: Only 2 people did it before you.06:21
nigel_nbthanks Peng, always nice to know its not my side thats screwed up :)06:21
ChrisMorgan|AwayOoh, I was an early one!06:21
BugsbaneI predict this will spiral out of control, ending the world on December 21, 2012...06:21
lifelessescalated, should be in progress very soon06:21
BugsbaneWait and see! ;)06:21
ChrisMorgan|AwayI didn't figure out what it was at first because the error messages were different inside TortoiseBzr and Bazaar Explorer06:21
Bugsbanelifeless: Phew. The world may yet be saved06:22
Peng.....for now!06:22
BugsbaneMuhahahaha!06:22
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mattmanso...... ubuntu one is apparently down. (sorry if i'm a little late). the offline.html page said to report it here.06:23
BugsbaneBINGO! That makes 9. :)06:23
mistrynitesheven the wiki is down06:23
mattmanwent to register a friend a new account. oh great06:23
* Peng tries to remember what Ubuntu One is.06:23
ChrisMorgan|AwayBugsbane: must be a dozen by now?06:23
mattmansorry then06:23
* Bugsbane is a bit slow06:23
mattmanthat's the thing about irc.06:23
mattmanno history exactly06:24
ChrisMorgan|AwayNo... only 9 :-(06:24
mattmanmaybe someone did an rm -rf on the wrong server.06:24
Pengmattman: Mibbit provides history. :D06:24
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Penglifeless++06:24
PengThen again, nobody reads topics...06:24
ChrisMorgan|AwayPeng: remember that Freenode blocked Mibbit?06:24
PengChrisMorgan|Away: Yeah, I know.06:24
ChrisMorgan|AwayPeng: when it's on entrance they tend to06:24
BugsbaneWhats so evil about Mibbit?06:25
ChrisMorgan|AwayBugsbane: nothing.06:25
andruki cant get to http://launchpad.net/06:25
nigel_nbChrisMorgan|Away: +1106:25
ChrisMorgan|AwayThe thing is that /Freenode/ is evil.06:25
mattman*feels stuipd*06:25
Pengadn/topic06:25
Pengandruk: /topic06:25
nigel_nbthats 1006:25
Bugsbanelol "Hey lets block a random service, just for the fun of it and see what people do!"06:25
PengThe good thing about topics is that you can say "/topic" instead of spelling out the explanation every time.06:25
ChrisMorgan|AwaySo nice people like us at http://portableapps.com/support/chat/live had to move from my nicely crafted PortableApps.com Mibbit skin to that mess which is webchat.freenode.net :-(06:25
PengChrisMorgan|Away: ...Or another IRC network.06:25
mattman*considers writing script to count the references to 'launchpad' and 'down'06:26
ChrisMorgan|AwayPeng: not an option, #portableapps has gained too much weight on Freenode, it'd kill it moving it.06:26
ChrisMorgan|Awaymattman: /me06:26
nhandlerlifeless: You might want to update @launchpadstatus06:26
roxan_is there a way I can add PPA while launchpad is down06:26
Bugsbanemattman: launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down06:26
mattmanbeen away from irc for VERY long.06:26
lifelessnhandler: ?06:26
nhandlerlifeless: http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus06:27
PengChrisMorgan|Away: Oh, too bad.06:27
lifelessnhandler: If the details for that are on the wiki... the wiki is down.06:27
lifelessnhandler: so I might like to; but being *able* to is different ;)06:27
Bugsbanenhandler: That seems to suggest Launchpad is just fine at the moment... :/06:27
Bugsbane(the identica link)06:28
lifelessshould be back shortly; one proximate cause has been found and services are being bounced.06:28
PengBugsbane: That was his point.06:28
andrukPeng: thanks, i saw it change...06:28
BugsbaneAhhh...06:28
* Bugsbane is very slow06:28
DBOwewt, its back06:30
Kamping_Kaiserhm... i think the error page should be consistant in its use of <centre>06:30
PengYay.06:30
tsimpsonbut <centre> is depreciated in XHTML in favour of CSS06:32
ChrisMorgan|AwayBetter still, just send a 503.06:32
ChrisMorgan|AwayMuch more descriptive.06:32
PengChrisMorgan|Away: They should indeed be using 503, but a useful page is still nice.06:33
ChrisMorgan|Away302 (Found) should not be used often at all, and definitely not here.06:33
ChrisMorgan|AwayNow I really am away.06:33
PengChrisMorgan|Away: The status code and the page content aren't related.06:33
ChrisMorgan|AwayPeng: I know, exactly.06:33
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ChrisMorgan|AwayYou can still send offline.html's contents directly and use a 50306:33
PengIndeed.06:34
Kamping_Kaiserwell... crisis over. thanks for the updates :)06:34
BugsbaneThe world lives to see another day...06:34
* Peng will file a bug06:35
PengWhich project, though? launchpad? launchpad-foundations?06:35
lifelessPeng: whats the bug?06:36
Penglifeless: "Please try again" page does 302 Found instead of 503 Internal Server Error.06:36
PengOr...some other error code, anyway.06:36
PengErr, 503 Service Unavailable I meant. :D06:37
lifelessPeng: please06:37
lifelessdo06:37
PengOK, but which project?06:38
* Peng will go with launchpad06:39
Jordan_UPeng: That means it also breaks http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net which said it was just me the entire time :)06:42
PengThat website reports "it's down" when it gets a 503?06:42
Jordan_UPeng: I haven't found an explanation of what exactly it does but I would assume so06:43
tsimpsonHTTP 503 = Service Unavailable06:44
tsimpsonso if it's unavailable (offline), 503 is the most fitting error06:45
PengI filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/489847. :D06:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 489847 in launchpad ""Please try again" page should use 503 Service Unavailable, not redirect" [Undecided,New]06:46
wgrantPeng: It always used to return a 503, but when they changed to this new-fangled reverse proxy thing it all went a bit odd.07:08
Pengwgrant: I thought I remembered getting 503s in the past. Thanks for the explanation. :)07:22
PengI don't want to do it right now, but is it possible to get the secondary copies of a branch (served over HTTP and whatever) nuked and recreated from scratch?08:02
lifelessPeng: ask-a-losa08:02
lifelessor change the format08:02
PengI suppose I could temporarily put up an empty branch with a different format...08:04
lifelessyou could use sftp to move the repo to .bzr/fooish08:05
lifelessand use bzrlib to make a repo with $other format08:05
PengYeah.08:06
Peng(Well, I'd use hitchhiker.)08:06
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PengI took care of it that way. :)08:24
PengAlthough I badly broke the secondary copy... :D08:43
PengHow many secondary copies are there nowadays? Just the one, for HTTP and read-only bzr+ssh?08:43
wgrantPeng: That's right.08:50
wgrantJust two instances of the branch are stored: hosted and mirrored.08:50
PengOK.08:51
shiki-hello everyone08:52
PengIf the mirror-creator thought the hosted copy was horribly broken last time it tried, how long until it tries again?08:54
wgrantPeng: I don't know, but I guess it might not until you either call requestMirror or lock and unlock.08:55
PengWow, I'm totally transferring data from LP at 25 Mbps.08:55
PengOver bzr+ssh!08:55
shiki-ehm08:56
wgrantPeng: You must be in the DC or somethingl08:57
Pengwgrant: A DC, but it's in Texas.08:57
Pengwgrant: ....I don't know how to run requestMirror.08:58
PengSorry for wasting a bunch of your bandwidth. >.>09:00
wgrantPeng: launchpadlib. Get hold of a branch, call requestMirror()09:00
PengWait, requestMirror() does hosted -> mirrored? It's not just for mirrored branches?09:05
wgrantPeng: Correct.09:05
PengNeat.09:05
PengIt's all the same to the puller, I guess.09:05
wgrantRight. One is just pulled from a local location.09:05
PengAlright, I'll set up launchpadlib. I've been needing to for a long time anyway, since I have a lot of mirrored branches.09:06
PengThanks for the encouragement, wgrant. requestMirror() is very nice (though launchpadlib has a frightening number of dependencies).09:48
wgrantPeng: What does it need? I cannot think of anything particularly abnormal besides wadllib and lazr.restfulclient.09:51
wgrantMmm, I guess lazr.uri and oauth too.09:51
wgrantBut this is why we have apt.09:52
Pengwgrant: I dunno. I used setuptools; it pulled in several thousand zope packages.09:52
wgrantOh. Because of the lazr.restful test dependency.09:52
wgrantI filed a bug on that a few months ago.09:52
wgrantIt's only needed for tests, but is declared as a full dep.09:53
Pengpytz, epydoc, simplejson, httplib2, elementtree...09:53
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nhandlermok0: Look at the paste I sent you. It shows the process19:53
mok0Right19:53
mrooneyLaunchpad seems to be giving me 2 po files that fail a msgfmt -c, it seems to be doing odd things with plurals, should I file a bug?20:26
lifelessmrooney: sure20:37
sproatyuh, I dunno how but somehow my project's got ubuntu package links? https://launchpad.net/whyteboard/+packages  - I didn't make them, only one before. I have filled [needs-packaging] though, could that be it?21:00
sproatyalso, can I link my ppa to the project somehow?21:00
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thumpersproaty: I think anyone can link a project to a package21:04
wgrantsproaty: As thumper says, anybody can add links you can remove them at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whyteboard.21:07
wgrantAnd no, at this point you cannot link a project to a PPA, except by adding a URL to the description.21:07
sproatyah ok, I've done that21:07
sproatyI'll leave the links there so if it does get packaged they're already there21:08
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