jkakar | FYI, it looks like one of the loggerhead appserver is having issues. | 02:27 |
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jkakar | At least, that's what I guess since I keep seeing "internal server error", but a reload works. | 02:28 |
lamothe | Are you guys aware of general weirdness with LP to do with bzr and Loggerhead? | 03:57 |
lamothe | Getting "Internal server errors". | 03:57 |
Jordan_U | Is the ability to create PPAs for debian a high priority with the increased collaboration for 10.04? | 04:45 |
Jordan_U | It would be very usefull to me | 04:45 |
ripps | Jordan_U: Many PPA's and ubuntu packages already work with Debian. I know a couple debian users use my gmpc-trunk and mpd-trunk ppas | 05:26 |
Jordan_U | Is launchpad down for everyone else? | 06:01 |
posulliv | yep, its down for me too | 06:02 |
anixx | hi! Why did you disappear? | 06:03 |
ChrisMorgan | launchpad came down right in the middle of branching lp:inkscape... I /finally/ looked at the website and discovered that it was getting a 302 to offline.html, the branch command didn't tell me anything, only bzr lp-login was telling me what was happening... :-( | 06:07 |
Jordan_U | I'd better file a bug report about launchpad being down | 06:08 |
ChrisMorgan | Jordan_U: yeah... on launchpad :/ | 06:09 |
ChrisMorgan | It was down a while yesterday also | 06:09 |
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ChrisMorgan | 503 would be better than 302. | 06:11 |
Peng | Should file a bug about that. | 06:11 |
ChrisMorgan | But you never can file a bug when you manage to reproduce it ;-) | 06:12 |
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micahg | LP offline? | 06:15 |
^^Johnny5 | The Ubuntu launchpad app seems down is this alright? | 06:15 |
ChrisMorgan | micahg: yep | 06:15 |
^^Johnny5 | How long do you know? | 06:16 |
micahg | ChrisMorgan: scheduled? | 06:16 |
micahg | idr anything | 06:16 |
ChrisMorgan | It's been down for 10-15 minutes | 06:16 |
^^Johnny5 | kk | 06:16 |
ChrisMorgan | I'm nothing to do with the Launchpad team... I was just in the middle of branching lp:inkscape | 06:16 |
Kubuntiac | Is Launchpad supposed to be down at the moment? ('Cause it is...) | 06:16 |
Peng | OK, someone needs to update the topic. | 06:17 |
^^Johnny5 | Yes I know someone sad down for 10 min app | 06:17 |
Kubuntiac | Ah, cool. | 06:17 |
ChrisMorgan | Kubuntiac: it's been down for 15 minutes, we're all rushing in and reporting it :D | 06:17 |
ChrisMorgan | Bit more than 15 minutes actually | 06:17 |
Kubuntiac | :) | 06:17 |
Kubuntiac | It's probably down cause all the devs keep having to reply to questions like ours. lol | 06:17 |
^^Johnny5 | lol | 06:18 |
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lifeless | if it was scheduled, it would be in the title bar | 06:19 |
* Kamping_Kaiser has his answer *g* | 06:19 | |
Kamping_Kaiser | thanks ;) | 06:19 |
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nigel_nb | is launchpad down? | 06:19 |
DBO | seconded | 06:20 |
Peng | nigel_nb: yes. | 06:20 |
lifeless | I'm escalating the problem now | 06:20 |
Bugsbane | Would be cool to have some automated kind of "ping IRC when launchpad goes up/down" | 06:20 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | I doubt I was the first to come in... so that's at least 8 so far to report it :P | 06:20 |
nigel_nb | Bugsbane: I think there is a system.... us :P | 06:20 |
Bugsbane | lol. HIS... "Human IRC System" | 06:20 |
nigel_nb | yeah | 06:20 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: Only 2 people did it before you. | 06:21 |
nigel_nb | thanks Peng, always nice to know its not my side thats screwed up :) | 06:21 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Ooh, I was an early one! | 06:21 |
Bugsbane | I predict this will spiral out of control, ending the world on December 21, 2012... | 06:21 |
lifeless | escalated, should be in progress very soon | 06:21 |
Bugsbane | Wait and see! ;) | 06:21 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | I didn't figure out what it was at first because the error messages were different inside TortoiseBzr and Bazaar Explorer | 06:21 |
Bugsbane | lifeless: Phew. The world may yet be saved | 06:22 |
Peng | .....for now! | 06:22 |
Bugsbane | Muhahahaha! | 06:22 |
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mattman | so...... ubuntu one is apparently down. (sorry if i'm a little late). the offline.html page said to report it here. | 06:23 |
Bugsbane | BINGO! That makes 9. :) | 06:23 |
mistrynitesh | even the wiki is down | 06:23 |
mattman | went to register a friend a new account. oh great | 06:23 |
* Peng tries to remember what Ubuntu One is. | 06:23 | |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Bugsbane: must be a dozen by now? | 06:23 |
mattman | sorry then | 06:23 |
* Bugsbane is a bit slow | 06:23 | |
mattman | that's the thing about irc. | 06:23 |
mattman | no history exactly | 06:24 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | No... only 9 :-( | 06:24 |
mattman | maybe someone did an rm -rf on the wrong server. | 06:24 |
Peng | mattman: Mibbit provides history. :D | 06:24 |
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Peng | lifeless++ | 06:24 |
Peng | Then again, nobody reads topics... | 06:24 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Peng: remember that Freenode blocked Mibbit? | 06:24 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: Yeah, I know. | 06:24 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Peng: when it's on entrance they tend to | 06:24 |
Bugsbane | Whats so evil about Mibbit? | 06:25 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Bugsbane: nothing. | 06:25 |
andruk | i cant get to http://launchpad.net/ | 06:25 |
nigel_nb | ChrisMorgan|Away: +11 | 06:25 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | The thing is that /Freenode/ is evil. | 06:25 |
mattman | *feels stuipd* | 06:25 |
Peng | adn/topic | 06:25 |
Peng | andruk: /topic | 06:25 |
nigel_nb | thats 10 | 06:25 |
Bugsbane | lol "Hey lets block a random service, just for the fun of it and see what people do!" | 06:25 |
Peng | The good thing about topics is that you can say "/topic" instead of spelling out the explanation every time. | 06:25 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | So nice people like us at http://portableapps.com/support/chat/live had to move from my nicely crafted PortableApps.com Mibbit skin to that mess which is webchat.freenode.net :-( | 06:25 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: ...Or another IRC network. | 06:25 |
mattman | *considers writing script to count the references to 'launchpad' and 'down' | 06:26 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Peng: not an option, #portableapps has gained too much weight on Freenode, it'd kill it moving it. | 06:26 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | mattman: /me | 06:26 |
nhandler | lifeless: You might want to update @launchpadstatus | 06:26 |
roxan_ | is there a way I can add PPA while launchpad is down | 06:26 |
Bugsbane | mattman: launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down | 06:26 |
mattman | been away from irc for VERY long. | 06:26 |
lifeless | nhandler: ? | 06:26 |
nhandler | lifeless: http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus | 06:27 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: Oh, too bad. | 06:27 |
lifeless | nhandler: If the details for that are on the wiki... the wiki is down. | 06:27 |
lifeless | nhandler: so I might like to; but being *able* to is different ;) | 06:27 |
Bugsbane | nhandler: That seems to suggest Launchpad is just fine at the moment... :/ | 06:27 |
Bugsbane | (the identica link) | 06:28 |
lifeless | should be back shortly; one proximate cause has been found and services are being bounced. | 06:28 |
Peng | Bugsbane: That was his point. | 06:28 |
andruk | Peng: thanks, i saw it change... | 06:28 |
Bugsbane | Ahhh... | 06:28 |
* Bugsbane is very slow | 06:28 | |
DBO | wewt, its back | 06:30 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hm... i think the error page should be consistant in its use of <centre> | 06:30 |
Peng | Yay. | 06:30 |
tsimpson | but <centre> is depreciated in XHTML in favour of CSS | 06:32 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Better still, just send a 503. | 06:32 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Much more descriptive. | 06:32 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: They should indeed be using 503, but a useful page is still nice. | 06:33 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | 302 (Found) should not be used often at all, and definitely not here. | 06:33 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Now I really am away. | 06:33 |
Peng | ChrisMorgan|Away: The status code and the page content aren't related. | 06:33 |
ChrisMorgan|Away | Peng: I know, exactly. | 06:33 |
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ChrisMorgan|Away | You can still send offline.html's contents directly and use a 503 | 06:33 |
Peng | Indeed. | 06:34 |
Kamping_Kaiser | well... crisis over. thanks for the updates :) | 06:34 |
Bugsbane | The world lives to see another day... | 06:34 |
* Peng will file a bug | 06:35 | |
Peng | Which project, though? launchpad? launchpad-foundations? | 06:35 |
lifeless | Peng: whats the bug? | 06:36 |
Peng | lifeless: "Please try again" page does 302 Found instead of 503 Internal Server Error. | 06:36 |
Peng | Or...some other error code, anyway. | 06:36 |
Peng | Err, 503 Service Unavailable I meant. :D | 06:37 |
lifeless | Peng: please | 06:37 |
lifeless | do | 06:37 |
Peng | OK, but which project? | 06:38 |
* Peng will go with launchpad | 06:39 | |
Jordan_U | Peng: That means it also breaks http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net which said it was just me the entire time :) | 06:42 |
Peng | That website reports "it's down" when it gets a 503? | 06:42 |
Jordan_U | Peng: I haven't found an explanation of what exactly it does but I would assume so | 06:43 |
tsimpson | HTTP 503 = Service Unavailable | 06:44 |
tsimpson | so if it's unavailable (offline), 503 is the most fitting error | 06:45 |
Peng | I filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/489847. :D | 06:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 489847 in launchpad ""Please try again" page should use 503 Service Unavailable, not redirect" [Undecided,New] | 06:46 |
wgrant | Peng: It always used to return a 503, but when they changed to this new-fangled reverse proxy thing it all went a bit odd. | 07:08 |
Peng | wgrant: I thought I remembered getting 503s in the past. Thanks for the explanation. :) | 07:22 |
Peng | I don't want to do it right now, but is it possible to get the secondary copies of a branch (served over HTTP and whatever) nuked and recreated from scratch? | 08:02 |
lifeless | Peng: ask-a-losa | 08:02 |
lifeless | or change the format | 08:02 |
Peng | I suppose I could temporarily put up an empty branch with a different format... | 08:04 |
lifeless | you could use sftp to move the repo to .bzr/fooish | 08:05 |
lifeless | and use bzrlib to make a repo with $other format | 08:05 |
Peng | Yeah. | 08:06 |
Peng | (Well, I'd use hitchhiker.) | 08:06 |
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Peng | I took care of it that way. :) | 08:24 |
Peng | Although I badly broke the secondary copy... :D | 08:43 |
Peng | How many secondary copies are there nowadays? Just the one, for HTTP and read-only bzr+ssh? | 08:43 |
wgrant | Peng: That's right. | 08:50 |
wgrant | Just two instances of the branch are stored: hosted and mirrored. | 08:50 |
Peng | OK. | 08:51 |
shiki- | hello everyone | 08:52 |
Peng | If the mirror-creator thought the hosted copy was horribly broken last time it tried, how long until it tries again? | 08:54 |
wgrant | Peng: I don't know, but I guess it might not until you either call requestMirror or lock and unlock. | 08:55 |
Peng | Wow, I'm totally transferring data from LP at 25 Mbps. | 08:55 |
Peng | Over bzr+ssh! | 08:55 |
shiki- | ehm | 08:56 |
wgrant | Peng: You must be in the DC or somethingl | 08:57 |
Peng | wgrant: A DC, but it's in Texas. | 08:57 |
Peng | wgrant: ....I don't know how to run requestMirror. | 08:58 |
Peng | Sorry for wasting a bunch of your bandwidth. >.> | 09:00 |
wgrant | Peng: launchpadlib. Get hold of a branch, call requestMirror() | 09:00 |
Peng | Wait, requestMirror() does hosted -> mirrored? It's not just for mirrored branches? | 09:05 |
wgrant | Peng: Correct. | 09:05 |
Peng | Neat. | 09:05 |
Peng | It's all the same to the puller, I guess. | 09:05 |
wgrant | Right. One is just pulled from a local location. | 09:05 |
Peng | Alright, I'll set up launchpadlib. I've been needing to for a long time anyway, since I have a lot of mirrored branches. | 09:06 |
Peng | Thanks for the encouragement, wgrant. requestMirror() is very nice (though launchpadlib has a frightening number of dependencies). | 09:48 |
wgrant | Peng: What does it need? I cannot think of anything particularly abnormal besides wadllib and lazr.restfulclient. | 09:51 |
wgrant | Mmm, I guess lazr.uri and oauth too. | 09:51 |
wgrant | But this is why we have apt. | 09:52 |
Peng | wgrant: I dunno. I used setuptools; it pulled in several thousand zope packages. | 09:52 |
wgrant | Oh. Because of the lazr.restful test dependency. | 09:52 |
wgrant | I filed a bug on that a few months ago. | 09:52 |
wgrant | It's only needed for tests, but is declared as a full dep. | 09:53 |
Peng | pytz, epydoc, simplejson, httplib2, elementtree... | 09:53 |
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nhandler | mok0: Look at the paste I sent you. It shows the process | 19:53 |
mok0 | Right | 19:53 |
mrooney | Launchpad seems to be giving me 2 po files that fail a msgfmt -c, it seems to be doing odd things with plurals, should I file a bug? | 20:26 |
lifeless | mrooney: sure | 20:37 |
sproaty | uh, I dunno how but somehow my project's got ubuntu package links? https://launchpad.net/whyteboard/+packages - I didn't make them, only one before. I have filled [needs-packaging] though, could that be it? | 21:00 |
sproaty | also, can I link my ppa to the project somehow? | 21:00 |
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thumper | sproaty: I think anyone can link a project to a package | 21:04 |
wgrant | sproaty: As thumper says, anybody can add links you can remove them at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whyteboard. | 21:07 |
wgrant | And no, at this point you cannot link a project to a PPA, except by adding a URL to the description. | 21:07 |
sproaty | ah ok, I've done that | 21:07 |
sproaty | I'll leave the links there so if it does get packaged they're already there | 21:08 |
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