[02:27] FYI, it looks like one of the loggerhead appserver is having issues. [02:28] At least, that's what I guess since I keep seeing "internal server error", but a reload works. [03:57] Are you guys aware of general weirdness with LP to do with bzr and Loggerhead? [03:57] Getting "Internal server errors". [04:45] Is the ability to create PPAs for debian a high priority with the increased collaboration for 10.04? [04:45] It would be very usefull to me [05:26] Jordan_U: Many PPA's and ubuntu packages already work with Debian. I know a couple debian users use my gmpc-trunk and mpd-trunk ppas [06:01] Is launchpad down for everyone else? [06:02] yep, its down for me too [06:03] hi! Why did you disappear? [06:07] launchpad came down right in the middle of branching lp:inkscape... I /finally/ looked at the website and discovered that it was getting a 302 to offline.html, the branch command didn't tell me anything, only bzr lp-login was telling me what was happening... :-( [06:08] I'd better file a bug report about launchpad being down [06:09] Jordan_U: yeah... on launchpad :/ [06:09] It was down a while yesterday also === root is now known as Guest67601 [06:11] 503 would be better than 302. [06:11] Should file a bug about that. [06:12] But you never can file a bug when you manage to reproduce it ;-) === Guest67601 is now known as ^^Johnny5 [06:15] LP offline? [06:15] <^^Johnny5> The Ubuntu launchpad app seems down is this alright? [06:15] micahg: yep [06:16] <^^Johnny5> How long do you know? [06:16] ChrisMorgan: scheduled? [06:16] idr anything [06:16] It's been down for 10-15 minutes [06:16] <^^Johnny5> kk [06:16] I'm nothing to do with the Launchpad team... I was just in the middle of branching lp:inkscape [06:16] Is Launchpad supposed to be down at the moment? ('Cause it is...) [06:17] OK, someone needs to update the topic. [06:17] <^^Johnny5> Yes I know someone sad down for 10 min app [06:17] Ah, cool. [06:17] Kubuntiac: it's been down for 15 minutes, we're all rushing in and reporting it :D [06:17] Bit more than 15 minutes actually [06:17] :) [06:17] It's probably down cause all the devs keep having to reply to questions like ours. lol [06:18] <^^Johnny5> lol === langworthy_ is now known as langworthy === Kubuntiac is now known as MrBananas === MrBananas is now known as Bugsbane [06:19] if it was scheduled, it would be in the title bar [06:19] * Kamping_Kaiser has his answer *g* [06:19] thanks ;) === ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away [06:19] is launchpad down? [06:20] seconded [06:20] nigel_nb: yes. [06:20] I'm escalating the problem now [06:20] Would be cool to have some automated kind of "ping IRC when launchpad goes up/down" [06:20] I doubt I was the first to come in... so that's at least 8 so far to report it :P [06:20] Bugsbane: I think there is a system.... us :P [06:20] lol. HIS... "Human IRC System" [06:20] yeah [06:21] ChrisMorgan|Away: Only 2 people did it before you. [06:21] thanks Peng, always nice to know its not my side thats screwed up :) [06:21] Ooh, I was an early one! [06:21] I predict this will spiral out of control, ending the world on December 21, 2012... [06:21] escalated, should be in progress very soon [06:21] Wait and see! ;) [06:21] I didn't figure out what it was at first because the error messages were different inside TortoiseBzr and Bazaar Explorer [06:22] lifeless: Phew. The world may yet be saved [06:22] .....for now! [06:22] Muhahahaha! === matt_ is now known as Guest15994 === Guest15994 is now known as mattman [06:23] so...... ubuntu one is apparently down. (sorry if i'm a little late). the offline.html page said to report it here. [06:23] BINGO! That makes 9. :) [06:23] even the wiki is down [06:23] went to register a friend a new account. oh great [06:23] * Peng tries to remember what Ubuntu One is. [06:23] Bugsbane: must be a dozen by now? [06:23] sorry then [06:23] * Bugsbane is a bit slow [06:23] that's the thing about irc. [06:24] no history exactly [06:24] No... only 9 :-( [06:24] maybe someone did an rm -rf on the wrong server. [06:24] mattman: Mibbit provides history. :D === lifeless changed the topic of #launchpad to: Launchpad is down, fix is in progress | Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [06:24] lifeless++ [06:24] Then again, nobody reads topics... [06:24] Peng: remember that Freenode blocked Mibbit? [06:24] ChrisMorgan|Away: Yeah, I know. [06:24] Peng: when it's on entrance they tend to [06:25] Whats so evil about Mibbit? [06:25] Bugsbane: nothing. [06:25] i cant get to http://launchpad.net/ [06:25] ChrisMorgan|Away: +11 [06:25] The thing is that /Freenode/ is evil. [06:25] *feels stuipd* [06:25] adn/topic [06:25] andruk: /topic [06:25] thats 10 [06:25] lol "Hey lets block a random service, just for the fun of it and see what people do!" [06:25] The good thing about topics is that you can say "/topic" instead of spelling out the explanation every time. [06:25] So nice people like us at http://portableapps.com/support/chat/live had to move from my nicely crafted PortableApps.com Mibbit skin to that mess which is webchat.freenode.net :-( [06:25] ChrisMorgan|Away: ...Or another IRC network. [06:26] *considers writing script to count the references to 'launchpad' and 'down' [06:26] Peng: not an option, #portableapps has gained too much weight on Freenode, it'd kill it moving it. [06:26] mattman: /me [06:26] lifeless: You might want to update @launchpadstatus [06:26] is there a way I can add PPA while launchpad is down [06:26] mattman: launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down launchpad down [06:26] been away from irc for VERY long. [06:26] nhandler: ? [06:27] lifeless: http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus [06:27] ChrisMorgan|Away: Oh, too bad. [06:27] nhandler: If the details for that are on the wiki... the wiki is down. [06:27] nhandler: so I might like to; but being *able* to is different ;) [06:27] nhandler: That seems to suggest Launchpad is just fine at the moment... :/ [06:28] (the identica link) [06:28] should be back shortly; one proximate cause has been found and services are being bounced. [06:28] Bugsbane: That was his point. [06:28] Peng: thanks, i saw it change... [06:28] Ahhh... [06:28] * Bugsbane is very slow [06:30] wewt, its back [06:30] hm... i think the error page should be consistant in its use of [06:30] Yay. [06:32] but is depreciated in XHTML in favour of CSS [06:32] Better still, just send a 503. [06:32] Much more descriptive. [06:33] ChrisMorgan|Away: They should indeed be using 503, but a useful page is still nice. [06:33] 302 (Found) should not be used often at all, and definitely not here. [06:33] Now I really am away. [06:33] ChrisMorgan|Away: The status code and the page content aren't related. [06:33] Peng: I know, exactly. === lifeless changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [06:33] You can still send offline.html's contents directly and use a 503 [06:34] Indeed. [06:34] well... crisis over. thanks for the updates :) [06:34] The world lives to see another day... [06:35] * Peng will file a bug [06:35] Which project, though? launchpad? launchpad-foundations? [06:36] Peng: whats the bug? [06:36] lifeless: "Please try again" page does 302 Found instead of 503 Internal Server Error. [06:36] Or...some other error code, anyway. [06:37] Err, 503 Service Unavailable I meant. :D [06:37] Peng: please [06:37] do [06:38] OK, but which project? [06:39] * Peng will go with launchpad [06:42] Peng: That means it also breaks http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net which said it was just me the entire time :) [06:42] That website reports "it's down" when it gets a 503? [06:43] Peng: I haven't found an explanation of what exactly it does but I would assume so [06:44] HTTP 503 = Service Unavailable [06:45] so if it's unavailable (offline), 503 is the most fitting error [06:46] I filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/489847. :D [06:46] Launchpad bug 489847 in launchpad ""Please try again" page should use 503 Service Unavailable, not redirect" [Undecided,New] [07:08] Peng: It always used to return a 503, but when they changed to this new-fangled reverse proxy thing it all went a bit odd. [07:22] wgrant: I thought I remembered getting 503s in the past. Thanks for the explanation. :) [08:02] I don't want to do it right now, but is it possible to get the secondary copies of a branch (served over HTTP and whatever) nuked and recreated from scratch? [08:02] Peng: ask-a-losa [08:02] or change the format [08:04] I suppose I could temporarily put up an empty branch with a different format... [08:05] you could use sftp to move the repo to .bzr/fooish [08:05] and use bzrlib to make a repo with $other format [08:06] Yeah. [08:06] (Well, I'd use hitchhiker.) === jfroy_ is now known as jfroy [08:24] I took care of it that way. :) [08:43] Although I badly broke the secondary copy... :D [08:43] How many secondary copies are there nowadays? Just the one, for HTTP and read-only bzr+ssh? [08:50] Peng: That's right. [08:50] Just two instances of the branch are stored: hosted and mirrored. [08:51] OK. [08:52] hello everyone [08:54] If the mirror-creator thought the hosted copy was horribly broken last time it tried, how long until it tries again? [08:55] Peng: I don't know, but I guess it might not until you either call requestMirror or lock and unlock. [08:55] Wow, I'm totally transferring data from LP at 25 Mbps. [08:55] Over bzr+ssh! [08:56] ehm [08:57] Peng: You must be in the DC or somethingl [08:57] wgrant: A DC, but it's in Texas. [08:58] wgrant: ....I don't know how to run requestMirror. [09:00] Sorry for wasting a bunch of your bandwidth. >.> [09:00] Peng: launchpadlib. Get hold of a branch, call requestMirror() [09:05] Wait, requestMirror() does hosted -> mirrored? It's not just for mirrored branches? [09:05] Peng: Correct. [09:05] Neat. [09:05] It's all the same to the puller, I guess. [09:05] Right. One is just pulled from a local location. [09:06] Alright, I'll set up launchpadlib. I've been needing to for a long time anyway, since I have a lot of mirrored branches. [09:48] Thanks for the encouragement, wgrant. requestMirror() is very nice (though launchpadlib has a frightening number of dependencies). [09:51] Peng: What does it need? I cannot think of anything particularly abnormal besides wadllib and lazr.restfulclient. [09:51] Mmm, I guess lazr.uri and oauth too. [09:52] But this is why we have apt. [09:52] wgrant: I dunno. I used setuptools; it pulled in several thousand zope packages. [09:52] Oh. Because of the lazr.restful test dependency. [09:52] I filed a bug on that a few months ago. [09:53] It's only needed for tests, but is declared as a full dep. [09:53] pytz, epydoc, simplejson, httplib2, elementtree... === sale_ is now known as sale === soeb_ is now known as soeb === stgraber_ is now known as stgraber [19:53] mok0: Look at the paste I sent you. It shows the process [19:53] Right [20:26] Launchpad seems to be giving me 2 po files that fail a msgfmt -c, it seems to be doing odd things with plurals, should I file a bug? [20:37] mrooney: sure [21:00] uh, I dunno how but somehow my project's got ubuntu package links? https://launchpad.net/whyteboard/+packages - I didn't make them, only one before. I have filled [needs-packaging] though, could that be it? [21:00] also, can I link my ppa to the project somehow? === lajevardi1 is now known as lajevardi === lajevardi is now known as Guest69471 === Guest69471 is now known as lajevardi1 [21:04] sproaty: I think anyone can link a project to a package [21:07] sproaty: As thumper says, anybody can add links you can remove them at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whyteboard. [21:07] And no, at this point you cannot link a project to a PPA, except by adding a URL to the description. [21:07] ah ok, I've done that [21:08] I'll leave the links there so if it does get packaged they're already there === lajevardi1 is now known as lajevardi