/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/11/29/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

micahgasac: don't we have to keep xulrunner for the other apps built on it?00:02
asacbut as daily?00:04
ftasure, but no need to do dailies for those00:04
micahgasac: well, probably not, the only thing I can think of is if people want to test other apps with the daily00:06
asacquestion is: can we add xulrunner to universe without feeling too bad because we already know it will be abandoned security wise soonish?00:09
micahgasac: well, it should get at least 6 months after release00:10
asacthats the old world ;)00:10
asaci am not sure what will happen, but the idea is to even stop doing that00:10
asac:)00:10
micahgasac: I thought it was still in debate00:10
asacnot sure if mozilla abandoned the idea00:10
micahgiirc, there was no resolution either way00:11
micahgbut, I think we have to at least throw something in there for the other apps00:11
micahgwhat other choice do we have?00:11
micahgotherwise, we can provide the -dev packages in ff and let them know they might break?00:12
asac_reconnect00:12
asac_01:11 < micahg> iirc, there was no resolution either way00:12
asac_01:12 -!- asac_ [n=asac@e177168032.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam00:12
micahg(06:11:31 PM) micahg: but, I think we have to at least throw something in there for the other apps00:13
micahg(06:11:46 PM) micahg: what other choice do we have?00:13
micahg(06:12:20 PM) micahg: otherwise, we can provide the -dev packages in ff and let them know they might break?00:13
asac_-> its just a huge axe hanging above us, so imo we need to plan as if they will do it ;) (for now)00:13
asac_other apps get removed ;)00:13
micahgok, then, if we can get clearance for major changes in the depending apps, we can try to bump them to be compliant during the release cycle00:13
asac_or migrated to webkit00:13
asac_at best00:13
asac_well. the major/minor session basically had the input from release team etc. that we should try to get rid of it ...00:15
asac_one idea would be to provide a trimmed down firefox-3.5-plugin-dev package00:15
asac_so we can still build plugins (which tend to be not as bad to maintain)00:15
asac_or we review apps manually and decide on case by case base, what we want to keep supporting00:16
asac_for those we need committmenet to provide backports in time for _all_ supported archs00:16
micahgdoes prism come with it's own xul code?00:16
asac_no00:16
asac_well. it could be made to have that ... but ;)00:17
asac_thats getting ugly00:17
micahgI'm certainlly willing to help with the backporting00:17
micahgin general, we'll be doing it for the devel release anyways00:18
asac_we have a few areas that are hard to get right ...00:18
asac_a) mozjs ... we have couchdb depending on that00:18
asac_b) we xul apps that would become more or less void00:19
asac_ -> if we have xulapps without binary components, we should remove them imo -> they can be provided upstream directly somewhat i guess00:19
ftaasac_, i don't get the migrated to webkit part.. why would moving the burden of security maintenance to webkit change anything?00:19
asac_first: the world moves to webkit. thats a fact ;)00:20
asac_so we will have to maintain webkit ;)00:20
micahgasac_: so, is the moziila team expanding to become the browser team?00:21
asac_second: embedders like webkit more00:21
asac_i would think that making a browser team in the long run becomes more and more viable ;)00:22
asac_thunderbird will stay around for a while longer too i guess00:23
ftaand if users like chromium more, would you move firefox to universe?00:23
asac_stuff gets moved to universe when its not on CD, nor on dvd usually00:24
asac_on any officially support image is more accurate i guess00:24
micahgwouldn't that depend on the archive restructuring?00:24
asac_yes. i have no clue about what exactly will happen then ;)00:25
=== asac_ is now known as asac
asacat some point we should get rid of firefox-3.1 transitional packages i guess00:41
asacthose were only in ppa, right?00:41
asacshould be safe to drop then in lucid i presume00:42
micahgthey certainly weren't in a production release00:43
asacmy innovate gnome component shuffeling didnt work out as good as expected :/00:44
asac(speaking to myself) ;)00:44
asachmm ... xdg-open is kind of borked01:17
micahgyeah01:18
micahgI meant to look into that01:18
ftaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/330715/01:23
ftathe thing is, i don't know when branches are abandonned01:24
asacfta: hmm. wasnt gears integrated in chromium?01:32
ftano01:32
ftathey won't do it01:33
asacinstead?01:33
ftatheir prefer to wait for the html5 offline feature01:33
ftathey01:33
asacis there any mstone targetted for that?01:33
asachttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/1194784/which-browsers-support-html5-offline-storage01:34
asacGoogle Chrome: Gears Database API, which is built into Chrome and thus doesn’t require a separate install. Surprisingly, Chrome doesn’t yet natively support any form of HTML5 Storage.01:35
asachmm01:35
asacso only win01:35
asachttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1744301:37
ftai know01:41
asacsvn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/third_party/protobuf2/src/src/google/protobuf/dynamic_message.cc:66:01:42
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/330748/plain/ with trunk02:30
asacfta: we are well past 2200 ;)02:31
ftagrrr02:31
asachehe02:31
asacok its saturday02:31
asacso its ok i guess ;)02:31
asacwhat a pity ... gvfs backend for gdocs does not "just work (tm)"02:31
asac/home/asac/Development/upstream/gvfs/gvfs_gdata/daemon/gvfsgdocsfile.c:665: undefined reference to `gdata_documents_presentation_get_download_uri'02:32
asacguess we need a better libgdata ;)02:32
* asac spins 0.5.1 from debian sid02:34
asacrather than 0.4 we have in karmic02:34
asacso ... i managed to get chromium mailto: handler to work02:35
asacfor yahoo and gmail02:35
asacexcept that xdg-open is broken ... but thats probalby xdg bug (escaping?)02:35
asacbut opening mailto: in firefox now opens yahoo/g mail in chromium02:35
asacnow we just need to mount gdocs as HOME/Documents ;) ... and then somehow ensure that we wrap the proper content types by something that opens browser with the right url ;)02:37
asacand resolve some "minor" online/offline handling issues before we can provide a good user experience ;)02:39
asacfeels hard :/02:39
* asac wonders if gvfs is in theory good for offline02:41
AnAnt_Hello, why isn't libmozjs1 built for xulrunner-1.9 ?07:11
=== AnAnt_ is now known as AnAnt
micahgAnAnt: what version of ubuntu?07:42
AnAntmicahg: karmic & lucid07:42
micahgAnAnt: xul-1.9 doesn't exist in either07:42
AnAnterrm, oops07:42
AnAnt1.9.107:43
AnAntsorry I dunno it is named xulrunner-1.9.107:44
AnAntso, the same issue holds for that version07:44
micahgI thought it was part of it07:44
AnAntwhy isn't libmozjs1 built for it ?07:44
micahgAnAnt: I think it's part of xulrunner-1.9.107:45
AnAntmicahg: libmozjs-dev is part of xulrunner-dev ?07:46
micahgyes07:46
micahgxulrunner-1.9.1-dev07:46
AnAntin 'xulrunner' there is libmozjs-dev & libxul-dev07:46
micahgxulrunner is old07:46
AnAntI see, so that's a big deviation from Debian07:48
micahgAnAnt: we don't import xul from debian07:48
AnAntmicahg: do you know since which version (1.9 or 1.9.1) did xulrunner start using heartbeat ?07:52
micahgno, sorry07:52
micahgidk what heartbeat is07:52
AnAntok07:55
rippsDamn, chromium is segfaulting on me. Now I have to install the huge debug package and get a backtrace09:49
rippsokay, nevermind. Everything is segfaulting, I think I just got a kernel bug09:52
micahgasac: you wouldn't happen to be on would you?09:59
AnAntHello, back to the libmozjs* packages question, I hope that separate packages for libmozjs* are built from xulrunner-1.9.1 (as have been done for old xulrunner)10:40
micahgAnAnt: they are not and will not be10:40
AnAntsome packages use libmozjs, and they can't find mozjs library in xulrunner-1.9.1-dev long path10:40
AnAntmicahg: any reason for this ?10:41
micahghmmm10:41
micahgidk10:41
micahgsimplicity?10:41
micahglet me see if I can find a bug10:41
AnAntmicahg: when you said "will not be", I thought you knew a reason for this10:42
micahgah, sorry10:42
micahgthat's my tiredness10:42
micahg4:45 in the morning :)10:42
AnAntI see10:42
AnAntyou need to sleep10:43
micahgI meant to say I don't think there are plans to revive it, but I'm trying to see if I can find the reason why it's no longer10:43
AnAntok10:43
AnAntso, asac is asleep ?10:44
micahgwell, probably not at noon, but it's sunday10:44
AnAntasac is in europe ?10:45
micahgUTC+110:45
AnAntok10:45
micahgI don't think it was ever in 1.910:51
micahgso that's since hardy10:51
micahgAnAnt: asac usually pops in sometime Sunday...I'll try to ask if I remember10:53
micahgAnAnt: apparently you're not the only one with this issue10:57
AnAntok, thanks11:11
asacfta: do you see any error here: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/chromium-browser_4.0.260.0~svn20091128r33239-0ubuntu1~ucd1_armel.build.bak.bz213:49
asacit failed to build13:49
asacbut i dont see anything that is an error13:49
asacok we worked around it by tweaking as14:37
AnAntasac: ping18:04
asacAnAnt: ?18:06
AnAntasac: can separate packages for libmozjs* are built from xulrunner-1.9.1 (as have been done for old xulrunner)18:06
AnAnts/are/be18:06
asacno18:06
AnAntwhy is that ?18:08
asacthere is a abug open about providing a stable ABI/APi18:08
asacthey say they dont want to do that18:08
asacso shipping libmozjs would be wrong18:08
asacits not ment for consumption outside of xulrunner/firefox upstream18:08
asaclet me check something18:08
AnAntthere are packages using libmozjs18:09
asachttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50689018:10
ubottuMozilla bug 506890 in Build Config "Make it possible for Ubuntu to provide libmozjs.so as a system library" [Normal,New]18:10
asacAnAnt: right. those in theory use something that isnt allowed18:10
asacits not my decision18:10
asacread the bug18:10
asac;)18:10
asacanyway. xulrunner will be either removed completely from archive (unlikely) or go to universe18:11
asacwhen that happens we can provide a mozjs there18:11
asacwhich doesnt really help couchdb ;)18:11
asacbad situation18:11
asacthy dont even want to keep abi/api promise within a stable branch ;)18:12
asacthat means: doomed18:12
asacso all our hope is on libseed ;)18:14
asacrather webkit ;)18:14
AnAntlibseed ? webkit ? what's those for ?18:20
asacother js lib18:22
AnAnt__so, is xulrunner going to be removed in lucid ?18:38
AnAnt__removed or go to universe that is18:39
ftaasac, jcastro: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-forest.html  131 releases in 60 days, incl 59 in branches (the rest in trunk)18:42
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asacyes18:50
asacAnAnt: yes18:50
AnAntok, thanks18:50
ftaasac, i think i will add a get-branch-source target, using something like RELEASE_BRANCH=249, and use that for another PPA19:33
ftait's probably best to work in a dedicated branch tough :(19:34
fta+h19:34
micahgasac: around?20:11
asacdh_link -p chromium-browser-dbg20:30
asacdh_md5sums -pchromium-browser-dbg20:30
asacdh_builddeb -pchromium-browser-dbg -- -Z lzma20:30
asacdpkg-deb: building package `chromium-browser-dbg' in `../chromium-browser-dbg_4.0.260.0~svn20091128r33239-0ubuntu1~ucd1_armel.deb'.20:30
asac \o/20:30
asacfta: ^^20:30
asac;)20:30
asacmicahg: for a moment. yes.20:31
asac;)20:31
micahgah, ok20:31
micahgif I'm adding different .desktop translations, are they separate commits in bzr and are they separate lines in the changelog?20:31
asacmicahg: if you add a batch at once you can have them in onecommit/line20:32
asacbut i wouldnt merge them when i land a second translation a few days later20:32
micahgLang1, Lang2, Lang3 (LP: 1, LP: 2, LP: 3)?20:32
asacif they have more than one bug i would still go for the multi commit/changelog approach20:32
micahgok20:32
micahgso one per commit one per line20:33
micahgdo I list the file after each line?20:33
asacor say something like: add translation for XX (LP: # ...), YY (LP: #...)20:33
asacbut i dont think we need to save lines in changelog ;)20:33
asacmicahg: if you dont merge them, then yes20:33
micahgok20:33
asaci undertand a changelog line as a entry + file modification20:33
micahggot it, I found 2 other translations over the weekend, so I'm adding them to 3.5.head20:33
asachmm. ok20:34
micahgthe other thing is, do you remember why we don't break out libmozjs anymore?20:34
asac;)20:34
* asac has to remember to update branch before committing the all-in-one-wonder changes ;)20:35
asacmicahg: we never did it20:35
micahgasac: why not start that with 3.6 unless we are backporting all in one to hardy20:35
asacread: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50689020:35
ubottuMozilla bug 506890 in Build Config "Make it possible for Ubuntu to provide libmozjs.so as a system library" [Normal,New]20:35
asacthat explains the reason why what debian does is insane - support wise ;)20:36
micahgwell, it used to be a separate package in xul 1.820:36
asacthat was debian heritage20:36
micahgah20:36
asacmaybe if we go away from xulrunner we can sync debian xulrunner ;)20:36
asacand then get libmozjs in universe20:36
asacbut even then its a bad feeling because we already know we wont be able to support20:36
asac(same as for xulrunner we discussed yesterday)20:37
asaconly a subset of applications we can pick and then prepare for porting ;)20:37
asacthats the same for mozjs20:37
asacmozjs gets > 1/3 of security fixes20:37
asacand those are usually of tricky kind (and nont many not working for mozilla - who wont help us according to bug) would be able to maintain that20:38
micahgwow20:38
asacif you read bug: they didnt even want to commit to not break API on a stable branch :/20:39
micahgyeah, I saw that20:39
micahgthat's what the wow was for :)20:39
asacso asking for stable minimal API across branches is definitly not right20:39
asacfor them ;)20:39
asacthey basically say: dont use mozjs anywhere but in firefox/tbird20:39
micahgso it almost seems like there's no point in shipping it at all20:40
asacright ;)20:40
asacthats the whole point ... and if you ship it you need to hire core js devs from mozilla ;)20:40
micahgok, we have a few bugs on this, now I know, should I create a master bug or keep telling people to build against xulrunner-1.9.1-dev20:41
micahgor both?20:41
asacwe have a master bug afaik20:41
asacmicahg: tell people to not use mozjs ;)20:41
asacthe building against xulrunner-1.9.1-dev has the same messy implications20:41
asacjust that we make it harder for them to do (and increase likelyhood we will bump into them)20:41
micahgasac: suggest they port to webkit?20:41
asacmaybe ;)20:41
asacfor now its probably the only way we can send them20:42
asacv8 has same approach as mozjs20:42
asaci the most accurate answer is: do not use javascript ;)20:42
asacsad but true20:42
micahgI don't see a master bug20:45
* asac looks20:45
asacgreat. search for "mozjs" on xulrunner-1.9.1 package -> no result20:46
asacbut: bug 486079 exists ;20:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 486079 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "installing libmozjs-dev will remove ... firefox ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs xulrunner-1.9.1 and a lot more" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48607920:46
asacthats launchpad20:46
micahgyep20:46
asaci thought there was a bug open ;)20:47
asacwhich bugs do you look at?20:47
asacmaybe i didnt name it MASTER, but consider it a master :)20:47
micahggenerally just ff, but someone came in here last night asking20:47
asacbug 28690620:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 286906 in xulrunner-1.9 "Unable to use libmozjs.so in an application, because of library path problem." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28690620:47
asacmicahg: yes. that was anant20:47
micahgyep20:47
asacalready told him that mozjs is bad ;)20:47
micahgshould I make that bug the master?20:48
asacone sec20:48
asacmaybe i wont fix it20:48
asacok cannot find it20:49
asacgo ahead then20:49
asacmove to 1.9.1 i guess20:49
micahgshould I link to the upstream bug also20:50
asacwhy not ;)20:51
asacmake it a wishlist bug with title: "provide and support a top-level library package for libmozjs"20:52
asacmake it a wishlist bug with title: "provide and support a top-level library package for libmozjs (Was: Unable to use libmozjs.so in an application, because of library path problem.)"20:52
asacor something similar20:52
micahgok20:56
micahgugh, they hijacked the builders again22:12
asacthey == us? or QA folks? ;)22:12
micahgQA folks it seems :)22:12
asacthere are 5/8/522:12
micahgI"m going to pbuilder songbird to see if it works22:12
asacthtas better than 2/2/3 ;)22:12
micahgyeah22:13
micahgasac: it looks like I'm going to have to use songbird's sqlite for the moment22:14
asacthats in line with everything we do ;)22:15
asacare you on lucid yet?22:15
micahgnope22:15
micahgshould I be?22:15
asacno22:15
asacjust was curious22:15
micahgI wasn't planning on jumping until beta 122:15
asacif sqlite is at least new enough there in theory22:15
ftaasac, could you add "killall -q -v -9 $(basename $TEST)" at the end of debian/run-test.sh and use it on base_unittests?22:15
asacfta: how do i use it on base_unittests?22:16
ftadebian/run-test.sh path/to/the/bins/base_unittests22:16
asachmm... i dont see the base_unitttests22:17
asacdid it clean them at end of build?22:17
asacoh sorry22:17
asacwrong host ;)22:17
ftawell, run it from sconsbuild/Release22:18
asac./debian/run-test.sh build-tree/src/sconsbuild/Release/base_unittests22:18
asacUsage: run-test.sh [-x] [-t sec] test_file log_dir [filter]22:18
asac-x               Run test_file under xvfb -t sec           Timeout in seconds after which we kill the test22:18
asachmm22:18
asac-t20 ?22:19
asaco log dir was missing22:19
asacits running22:19
asacok had to create the right log subdir too22:20
asacnow running ;)22:21
asachow long is that supposed to run ;)?22:21
asac27873 asac      20   0 76256 2212  364 R 99.1  0.5   0:15.12 base_unittests22:21
asacrunning22:21
ftaat most 10 min22:22
asacon your system ;)?22:22
asachehe22:22
asacok let me take a quick break22:22
ftano, it's the timeout22:22
asacthen finish a few specs22:22
asachmm ok22:22
asacalready more than a minute CPU time ;)22:22
ftamaybe 10min is not enough to run normally on arm22:23
ftathe log file shoud grow22:23
fta+l22:23
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/331343/22:25
asacthats what is at end atm22:25
asacso its either stuck ... at end ... or woking on getting OOM22:25
asacfta: its already defunct22:27
asacbut looping22:27
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/331345/22:27
ftahm, but it run-test still running?22:41
asacit runs forever22:41
asaci restarted in the meantime22:42
asacso ask in 6 minutes or so ;)22:42
asac(karmic)asac@jocote:~$ ls -l /tmp/log/build-tree/src/sconsbuild/Release/base_unittests.txt22:42
asac-rw-r--r-- 1 asac warthogs 29575 Nov 29 22:37 /tmp/log/build-tree/src/sconsbuild/Release/base_unittests.txt22:42
asac(karmic)asac@jocote:~$ date22:42
asacso latest at 224722:42
asacSun Nov 29 22:42:16 UTC 200922:42
asacit should stop, right?22:42
ftastrange, next time, run it with sh -x22:42
asaci ran a killall base_unitttests after killing the process22:42
asacthat left a gdb process still running22:42
asack22:43
ftawell, if the 1st instance died, i re-run it in gdb, so you have to be patient before killing everything22:44
asachow patient?22:44
asac20muntes?22:44
asacis that a new log i can check for progress? (with gdb)22:45
asac[----------] 14 tests from OutOfMemoryTest22:45
asac[ RUN      ] OutOfMemoryTest.New22:45
asac[WARNING] /home/asac/chromium-browser-4.0.260.0~svn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/testing/gtest/src/gtest-death-test.cc:741:: Death tests use fork(), which is unsafe particularly in a threaded context. For this test, Google Test couldn't detect the number of threads.22:45
asacthats really the end from what i can see22:45
asacmaybe that warning is FATAL?22:45
asacok 10 minutes almost past ...22:45
* asac waiting22:45
asacok 10 minutes done -> gdb appeared22:47
asacthats correct, right?22:47
ftaduring your build, the script properly exited, but with some processes left behind, so here, the script should terminate itself normally too22:47
asac[WARNING] /home/asac/chromium-browser-4.0.260.0~svn20091128r33239/build-tree/src/testing/gtest/src/gtest-death-test.cc:741:: Death tests use fork(), which is unsafe particularly in a threaded context. For this test, Google Test couldn't detect the number of threads.22:47
asacTimeout: aborting command ``./build-tree/src/sconsbuild/Release/base_unittests'' with signal 922:47
asacKilled22:47
asacso the killing worked a bit22:47
asacthe defunct proc is gone at least22:47
asacnow i got ## list of FAILED tests:22:48
asac[  FAILED  ] ConditionVariableTest.FLAKY_MultiThreadConsumerTest (792 ms)22:48
ftagood22:48
ftaand no zombie, gdb, whatever?22:48
ftathe killall i asked you to add has a -v, to show if it has catched something22:49
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/331357/22:50
asacfta: gdb is now active22:50
asacand apparently under gdb we have a new defunct too22:51
asackind of expected22:51
asacso after another 10 minutes this will finish?22:51
fta10min max for a run, so 10min minus the running time22:51
asacthe process with zombie is already dead and gdb keeps on going ...22:52
asacanyway 4 more minutes at max with gdb i hope22:52
asaclets see22:52
ftaxul-ext-adblock-plus ? wtf22:53
ftaoh, debian22:53
ftawhy am i getting all those debian bug mails?22:53
asacsubscribed to pkg-moz-extmaintainers or something list?22:53
asacmaybe they have that list as maintianer and then mails go there22:54
asacor its mozillateam malining list ;)22:54
asacwe still get the icedove mail there22:54
asac(next upload will fix that)22:54
ftait's the m-t mailing list22:54
ftafrom mozilla-devscripts22:55
asacfta: test ended23:07
asac[  FAILED  ] ConditionVariableTest.FLAKY_MultiThreadConsumerTest (792 ms)23:07
asac---- crash logs ----23:07
asacKilled base_unittests(29141) with signal 923:07
asacKilled base_unittests(29433) with signal 923:07
asacno process left23:07
asacgreat23:07
asachmm23:07
asacasac     17020     1  0 18:37 ?        00:00:01 Xvfb :99 -screen 0 640x480x8 -extension Composite -nolisten tcp23:07
asacasac     19033     1  0 19:19 ?        00:00:01 Xvfb :100 -screen 0 640x480x8 -extension Composite -nolisten tcp23:07
asacasac     22097     1  0 19:51 ?        00:00:01 Xvfb :104 -screen 0 640x480x8 -extension Composite -nolisten tcp23:07
asacasac     22348     1  0 20:01 ?        00:00:01 Xvfb :106 -screen 0 640x480x8 -extension Composite -nolisten tcp23:08
asacasac     22368     1  0 20:01 ?        00:00:00 Xvfb :107 -screen 0 640x480x8 -extension Composite -nolisten tcp23:08
asacthose are still running23:08
asaci guess those were started during tests, but never killed23:08
asacanything i should do before killing those?23:08
asacfta: ?23:08
asac323:16
asac223:16
asac123:16
asackilled ;)23:17
ftabased on the time, yeah, from your previous attempts23:33
micahgfta: is trunk fixed for you with the funny characters?23:33
ftaasac, ^^, it seems i should kill that too, but the tricky part is to kill only ours23:34
ftamicahg, no idea, i only see that at work, and i'm at home23:34
micahgah, ok23:34
micahgfta: I'm having songbird build it's own sqlite, hope that and a patch refresh will fix it23:38
rcmaehl_linuxI need help23:39
rcmaehl_linuxevery time i load firefox i get this23:39
rcmaehl_linuxCould not initialize the application's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your application's profile directory. Please check that this directory has no read/write restrictions and your hard disk is not full or close to full. It is recommended that you exit the application and fix the problem. If you continue to use this session, you might see incorrect application behaviour when accessing security23:39
rcmaehl_linuxfeatures.23:39
micahgrcmaehl_linux: is your home partition full?23:40
rcmaehl_linuxno23:45
rcmaehl_linuxand the guys in #firefox gave me the answer23:45
micahgok, bye rcmaehl_linux23:45

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