| Batosuai | hi | 01:18 |
|---|---|---|
| Batosuai | hey guys can anyone help me im new at ubuntu i installed xubuntu in a low spec laptop and everything went well until after instalation i cannot use the GUI | 01:20 |
| Batosuai | I aprecciate any help XD | 01:22 |
| jar | Batosuai, does it only boot to command line? | 01:24 |
| Batosuai | yeah | 01:24 |
| Batosuai | tty | 01:24 |
| jar | Hm, weird. | 01:24 |
| jar | can you type 'startx' ? | 01:24 |
| Batosuai | command not found | 01:24 |
| jar | how about startxfce4 | 01:25 |
| Batosuai | same | 01:25 |
| Batosuai | sorry im a noob | 01:25 |
| jar | okay one last command | 01:25 |
| jar | ls /usr/bin/ | grep xfce | 01:26 |
| Batosuai | used ubuntu befor but never had this prob | 01:26 |
| jar | does that return anything? | 01:26 |
| Batosuai | how do i get the vertical line | 01:26 |
| jar | it's the shift version of \ | 01:27 |
| jar | It's above ENTER on my qwerty keyboard. | 01:27 |
| Batosuai | got it | 01:28 |
| Batosuai | same | 01:28 |
| jar | Nothing? | 01:28 |
| Batosuai | maybe a error installing? | 01:28 |
| jar | Your install seems to have failed in some way. | 01:28 |
| jar | Yes. | 01:28 |
| jar | Your desktop environment is not installed. | 01:28 |
| Batosuai | ok let me try again ty how im supposed to install it | 01:29 |
| jar | I just installed with all the defaults. | 01:29 |
| Batosuai | im doing it in a low spec laptop so maybe thats why i failed | 01:29 |
| jar | How low spec? | 01:30 |
| Batosuai | old computer\ | 01:30 |
| jar | Well I mean | 01:30 |
| jar | Processor, Ram, etc? | 01:30 |
| Batosuai | Microprocessor Intel Pentium III processor 650 MHz | 01:31 |
| Batosuai | Microprocessor Cache 256 KB L2 on-chip cache | 01:31 |
| Batosuai | Memory 64 MB 100 MHz SyncDRAM, shared memory architecture - 4 MB dedicated for video memory | 01:31 |
| Batosuai | Memory Max Upgradable to 320 MB | 01:31 |
| Batosuai | Video Graphics Trident CyberBlade 3D Graphics | 01:31 |
| Batosuai | old lol | 01:31 |
| jar | the processor is fine | 01:31 |
| jar | it's the ram | 01:31 |
| jar | I think you need 128MB minimum | 01:31 |
| jar | You might want to try Puppy Linux | 01:32 |
| Batosuai | sorry forgot to add another 64 so it have 128 | 01:32 |
| jar | Oh you do? | 01:32 |
| Batosuai | puppy linux? sounds interesting | 01:32 |
| jar | Puppy Linux is designed for very low end systems. | 01:32 |
| jar | http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm | 01:33 |
| Batosuai | if i cannot get this one running ill try with that one | 01:33 |
| Batosuai | lol | 01:33 |
| Batosuai | ty | 01:33 |
| jar | np | 01:33 |
| joshritger1 | can anyone tell me how to edit xorg.conf in xubuntu, I can't seem to find it | 03:18 |
| joshritger1 | oh it is xubuntu 9.10 | 03:18 |
| jar | joshritger1, there is no xorg.conf anymore | 03:38 |
| jar | what do you need to do? | 03:39 |
| joshritger1 | jar: sorry I am in two windows, but I am having trouble with my display, I have an old gateway laptop with the intel 82830 chipset and in 9.04 and 9.10 there are issues with the chipset causing the screen to blink | 03:41 |
| jar | You can generate a custom xorg.conf with the options you need in /etc/X11. | 03:42 |
| jar | Should work fine. | 03:42 |
| joshritger1 | will try | 03:43 |
| jar | gnash still sucks. | 03:45 |
| jar | shocker. | 03:45 |
| JAAII | New user here. Can anyone tell me the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu? | 04:51 |
| jar | JAAII, Essentially - Ubuntu uses GNOME, we use XFce | 04:53 |
| JAAII | Thanks for the response jar. Does either make a difference based on your hardware? For example, I'm using a MacBook Pro (5,1). Currently have Ubuntu installed but thought one of the other distros may be better. Thoughts? | 04:55 |
| jar | JAAII, Both Ubuntu and Xubuntu use the exact same kernel so the hardware supports, in theory, should be exactly the same. | 04:56 |
| JAAII | I assume you are using Xubuntu. Any reason you prefer over Ubuntu? | 04:56 |
| jar | I like XFce :) | 04:57 |
| jar | That's pretty much it. | 04:57 |
| JAAII | Cool. Thanks for your time. | 05:00 |
| Jaden007mi5 | Hey | 07:07 |
| Jaden007mi5 | I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and i have no sound at all. sound worked on 8.10 | 07:08 |
| Jaden007mi5 | any help? | 07:08 |
| jar | Do you mean xubuntu? | 07:09 |
| jar | or ubuntu? | 07:09 |
| Jaden007mi5 | my bad i accidently joined the xubuntu room instead of ubuntu | 07:09 |
| jar | :) | 07:09 |
| Sahkolihaa | A common mistake, it seems. | 07:11 |
| Sahkolihaa | ...right. | 07:11 |
| Sahkolihaa | Anyone know where Thunderbird's default browser setting is? | 07:11 |
| Sahkolihaa | I'm sick of it starting up Firefox when Chromium is set as my default browser. :| | 07:11 |
| Sahkolihaa | I guess this is what happens when part of GNome is included with Xubuntu - mixed up settings. | 07:12 |
| TheSheep | Sahkolihaa: you can try using gconf-edit to find it | 07:46 |
| Sahkolihaa | I just found a fix - created a user.js file in thunderbird's profile directory and added some lines from the Mozilla website. :) | 07:46 |
| turtle_ | g'day all, just throwing 9.10 on my machine, whats the best size for a swap partition? | 08:35 |
| jar | turtle_, the rule of thumb is your ram multiplied by two | 08:35 |
| turtle_ | wow thats a lot | 08:36 |
| jar | How much RAM do you have? | 08:36 |
| turtle_ | 1gb | 08:36 |
| jar | then yeah, 2GB | 08:36 |
| turtle_ | but only a 16gb ssd | 08:36 |
| jar | That sucks. | 08:36 |
| jar | That's why I opted out of a SSD. | 08:37 |
| jar | My netbook has a nice 160GB traditional drive. | 08:37 |
| turtle_ | i don't mind the ssd | 08:37 |
| turtle_ | I just bought a new one because of a good price | 08:38 |
| turtle_ | but 9.04 doesn't work so nice on it so putting on 9.10 now | 08:38 |
| turtle_ | but it still looks like the sound wont work | 08:38 |
| jar | What model? | 08:38 |
| turtle_ | the hp mini 110 | 08:39 |
| jar | Yeah | 08:39 |
| jar | Seems to be a common issue | 08:39 |
| jar | http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=hp+mini+110+sound+linux&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=6b22d27f49a5e7dd | 08:39 |
| turtle_ | it's weird because UNR 9.10 seems to work with its sound | 08:39 |
| jar | That is weird since xubuntu uses the standard ubuntu kernel and I think so does NBR. | 08:41 |
| turtle_ | yeah thats why I figured it would work out of the box | 08:41 |
| jar | turtle_, Have you tried it with headphones? | 08:42 |
| jar | "Speakers don't work on Ubuntu 9.04, headphones work OK. Both work on Ubuntu 9.10 Beta" | 08:42 |
| turtle_ | i'll give it a try in a sec | 08:43 |
| turtle_ | i didn't even think of that, how stupid of me | 08:43 |
| jar | It happens to the best of us. | 08:43 |
| jar | ;) | 08:43 |
| turtle_ | another linux-newb question, can i mount /home on an external ssd? | 08:44 |
| TheSheep | you can mount it anywhere | 08:45 |
| jar | ^ | 08:45 |
| TheSheep | the problem may be: what happens when you diconnect it? | 08:46 |
| jar | YOU DIE | 08:46 |
| jar | :D | 08:46 |
| turtle_ | brutal :P | 08:47 |
| jar | We don't half ass things. | 08:47 |
| jar | ;) | 08:47 |
| turtle_ | ...unlike microsoft | 08:48 |
| jar | Haha. | 08:48 |
| jar | Or even Apple for that matter. | 08:48 |
| jar | *cough* | 08:49 |
| turtle_ | gah I'm struggling with the mounting of these partitions.... I understand the primary one should be '/', but the second one, which I intend to use to test new distro's, should be mounted as what? | 08:49 |
| jar | You can mount it anywhere you want. | 08:50 |
| jar | Somewhere in /media would be best. | 08:50 |
| turtle_ | or should I leave it empty and get the other distro to sort it out | 08:50 |
| TheSheep | turtle_: you don't have to mount it | 08:51 |
| TheSheep | turtle_: yeah, you can do that | 08:51 |
| jar | Yeah. | 08:51 |
| jar | Just because a partition exists doesn't mean it HAS to be mounted. | 08:51 |
| TheSheep | I usually mount it in /mnt/other or something like that, just to have access to it | 08:52 |
| turtle_ | yeah I understand that, just the program is throwing me errors | 08:52 |
| jar | I only use vbox these days | 08:52 |
| turtle_ | I am thinking of putting it as /media/altdistro | 08:52 |
| TheSheep | turtle_: /media is mostly for automounted stuff | 08:53 |
| TheSheep | turtle_: of course that's only a tradition | 08:53 |
| jar | I use media for everything because I think splitting them up was stupid. | 08:53 |
| jar | But that's just me. | 08:53 |
| jar | /mnt or /media - pick one IMHO | 08:53 |
| turtle_ | well I'm still getting my linux feet and thats where I tend to look for my stuff | 08:53 |
| TheSheep | you know, the linux motto should be "whatever works for you" | 08:54 |
| jar | also, "screw kde" | 08:54 |
| jar | :D | 08:54 |
| jar | jk | 08:54 |
| TheSheep | !language | jar | 08:55 |
| ubottu | jar: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 08:55 |
| turtle_ | lol | 08:55 |
| jar | Who in their right mind would consider that NSFW? | 08:55 |
| jar | o_O | 08:55 |
| jar | I've heard worse language on Nickelodean. | 08:55 |
| jar | Not even kidding. | 08:55 |
| TheSheep | jar: not all the world is raised in USA | 08:55 |
| jar | The USA is actually pretty conservative in our views of what should be allowed on TV. | 08:56 |
| turtle_ | they swear in the original transformers | 08:56 |
| TheSheep | but that's not the topic of this channel | 08:56 |
| * jar slaps his forehead | 08:57 | |
| turtle_ | can I go into gparted after the install is finished and make the ntfs partition mount as /media/windoze? | 09:07 |
| TheSheep | no need for gparted for that | 09:08 |
| TheSheep | !ntfs | 09:08 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 09:08 |
| TheSheep | !ntfs-3g | 09:08 |
| ubottu | ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions | 09:08 |
| turtle_ | thanks TheSheep , I'll check it out | 09:10 |
| turtle_ | 16sec boot time... tasty | 09:15 |
| hume | hi all.... after an upgrade to ubuntu 9.10, sound is turned off when I log in to xfce - how do I set it to be turned on when I log in? | 10:12 |
| handjob | Hi all. I've got problem playing .wmv files. If i start mplayer from GUI it plays sound only but when started form command line it works well. Once I have solved this problem but damn i forgot how. Here is passthebin of mplayer-cli http://pastebin.com/f306b4bd3. | 11:37 |
| turtle_ | anyone managed to get the telstra wbb working with 9.10? | 12:02 |
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| oberon | hi | 13:59 |
| oberon | I'm trying to install a new kernel according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=kernel | 14:00 |
| oberon | after step 10 I get the files in /boot | 14:00 |
| sshadyy | hi | 14:00 |
| knome | !kernel | oberon | 14:00 |
| ubottu | oberon: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages | 14:00 |
| oberon | hi pal | 14:00 |
| sshadyy | yea i come to irc:) | 14:01 |
| oberon | knome, the question is - how do I make the new kernel apear on the grub menu on boot ? | 14:01 |
| knome | oberon, please refer to the last link | 14:01 |
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| nicklas_ | back in xubuntu land :-P | 18:58 |
| jar | nicklas_, Welcome Back! | 18:59 |
| jar | :) | 18:59 |
| BeteNoire | hi, my friend has xubuntu and i want to send him messages that will popup on his screen, via local network, what is the app supporting this? | 18:59 |
| jar | BeteNoire, You mean like a dialog box? | 19:00 |
| nicklas_ | jar, ty :-) | 19:00 |
| jar | :) | 19:00 |
| nicklas_ | i used sabayon, but it crashed after nvidia update | 19:00 |
| jar | Isn't sabayon based on gentoo? | 19:01 |
| nicklas_ | yup | 19:01 |
| BeteNoire | jar: not exactly dialog, i don't want him to click yes or no :) just send short message that will popu | 19:01 |
| jar | I'll keep my comments about portage to myself. | 19:01 |
| jar | BeteNoire, You could ssh into his machine and use zenity. | 19:01 |
| BeteNoire | wut? | 19:01 |
| BeteNoire | discussion about gentoo here? :) | 19:01 |
| jar | BeteNoire, nicklas_ was using a gentoo based distro. | 19:01 |
| jar | ;) | 19:01 |
| jar | But he came to his senses and returned here. | 19:02 |
| jar | :D | 19:02 |
| BeteNoire | i am using gentoo on most of my machines :)2~ | 19:02 |
| jar | I'll have to bite my lip extra hard then. | 19:02 |
| jar | :D | 19:02 |
| BeteNoire | :> | 19:02 |
| BeteNoire | don't worry, i'm familiar with tension between distro users :) | 19:03 |
| jar | Hehe, it's all in good fun for the most part. | 19:03 |
| jar | Xubuntu and Gentoo have completely different target audiences. | 19:03 |
| jar | ;) | 19:03 |
| Sysi | yes, gentoo when you want to configure ans xubuntu when you want to use :P | 19:04 |
| Sysi | (i'm not gonna start flamewar) | 19:04 |
| jar | *g* | 19:04 |
| jar | Sysi, At least in #xubuntu you know you'd have backup. | 19:05 |
| jar | Haha. | 19:05 |
| Sysi | i don't need :) | 19:05 |
| jar | hehe | 19:06 |
| nicklas_ | anyone knows what libs that are installed in regular ubuntu but not in xubuntu that are required to play quake 4? | 19:06 |
| jar | nicklas_, console output should tell you. | 19:07 |
| nicklas_ | jar, where? | 19:07 |
| nicklas_ | ah yes | 19:07 |
| nicklas_ | when trying to start it you mean? | 19:07 |
| jar | Yes. | 19:07 |
| nicklas_ | i have been using both ubuntu and kubuntu, but i have figured out i dont need all that eye candy | 19:09 |
| nicklas_ | so xubuntu is good :-) | 19:09 |
| jar | I actually prefer XFce to GNOME | 19:09 |
| jar | In the way of appearances | 19:09 |
| jar | xfwm has compositor support and that's enough for me | 19:10 |
| nicklas_ | yes, for me too | 19:10 |
| nicklas_ | that eye candy is enough | 19:10 |
| jar | mhmm | 19:10 |
| Sysi | kirkasvärinen ja xfce transparencies ♥ | 19:11 |
| Sysi | what | 19:11 |
| jar | hehe | 19:11 |
| Sysi | *xfce transparencies ♥ | 19:11 |
| jar | Nice unicode. | 19:11 |
| Sysi | easiest way to get damm goodlooking system | 19:12 |
| jar | ;) | 19:12 |
| Sysi | http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/scort.png | 19:13 |
| Sysi | didn't take long to set up | 19:13 |
| jar | hehe | 19:13 |
| Sysi | exept that i changed buttons to window borders | 19:13 |
| jar | http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8097/desktopxfce4.png | 19:17 |
| jar | That's my desktop. | 19:17 |
| Sysi | should i paste my others? | 19:18 |
| jar | If you'd like. | 19:18 |
| Sysi | mmph, anime | 19:19 |
| jar | Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood ;P | 19:19 |
| Sysi | http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/siiseli.png | 19:19 |
| Sysi | http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/leelu.png | 19:20 |
| jar | girly | 19:20 |
| jar | lol | 19:20 |
| Sysi | :) | 19:20 |
| Sysi | that was for school | 19:20 |
| jar | ah | 19:21 |
| Sysi | now i use the upper | 19:21 |
| jar | hehe | 19:21 |
| Sysi | tesmachine's gonna be mac-replica | 19:21 |
| jar | ah | 19:21 |
| Sysi | *test machine | 19:22 |
| Sysi | how hard can tuping be | 19:22 |
| Sysi | yeah, exactly | 19:22 |
| jar | :) | 19:23 |
| nicklas_ | this blocking list in transmission, what is it? what does it mean? | 19:50 |
| jar | nicklas_, it blocks know riaa/mpaa types | 19:52 |
| nicklas_ | and what is that? | 19:52 |
| jar | copyright agencies | 19:53 |
| jar | basically | 19:53 |
| nicklas_ | aha, then you dont wanna use that | 19:53 |
| jar | no, you do | 19:53 |
| jar | it blocks them | 19:53 |
| nicklas_ | so you cant download illegal files? | 19:53 |
| jar | No, so they can't watch you. | 19:54 |
| nicklas_ | aah | 19:54 |
| nicklas_ | cool | 19:54 |
| nicklas_ | yo | 22:59 |
| jar | welcome back | 22:59 |
| nicklas_ | :-) | 22:59 |
| Sysi | ohai | 22:59 |
| nicklas_ | so what dists have you used? | 23:00 |
| Sysi | currently installing fedora | 23:00 |
| jar | I've used a ton. | 23:00 |
| Sysi | also used this earlier | 23:00 |
| jar | I'm 21 and been using Linux since I was 12. | 23:00 |
| jar | Stuck with XFce more or less since early 4.0.x releases. | 23:01 |
| Sysi | i've used linux for, 2 years? | 23:01 |
| nicklas_ | fedora is the only major dist i havent tried i think, seems like too much work | 23:01 |
| jar | I used Redhat 9 then Fedora Core 1 | 23:01 |
| jar | Back a few years ago | 23:02 |
| Sysi | fedora is nice | 23:02 |
| jar | My first XFce experience was on Redhat now that I think about it. | 23:02 |
| nicklas_ | but isnt it annoying getting nvidia drivers working? and mp3 and flash and such? | 23:03 |
| Sysi | i had to use xfce, i only had 256mb ram | 23:03 |
| nicklas_ | lol ok | 23:03 |
| jar | nicklas_, works about the same as on Xubuntu | 23:03 |
| Sysi | no, as far as i know | 23:03 |
| nicklas_ | jar, meta ? | 23:03 |
| Sysi | available on rpmfusion iirc | 23:03 |
| jar | I believe Package Kit takes care of that stuff. | 23:04 |
| Sysi | this is with kde :S | 23:04 |
| jar | http://www.packagekit.org/pk-screenshots.html | 23:04 |
| nicklas_ | well, xubuntu/ubuntu is good, what is different with fedora? | 23:04 |
| Sysi | installation done, i'm gonna reboot | 23:04 |
| jar | nicklas_, A different distro entirely. | 23:05 |
| Sysi | package manager | 23:05 |
| nicklas_ | rpm yes | 23:05 |
| Sysi | and all programs are updated | 23:05 |
| nicklas_ | its more up to date? | 23:05 |
| Sysi | yes | 23:05 |
| jar | Not really. | 23:05 |
| jar | It's about the same. | 23:05 |
| nicklas_ | in ubuntu i can add playdeb repos to get the latest games, i am a gamer | 23:05 |
| Sysi | firefor came earier to fedora | 23:05 |
| nicklas_ | so i want latest open arena, warsow and siuch | 23:06 |
| Sysi | reboot → | 23:06 |
| jar | Sysi, Firefox has been in *buntu since the beginning? | 23:06 |
| Sysi | when updated to 3.5 | 23:06 |
| jar | You didn't specify version. | 23:06 |
| jar | Also. | 23:06 |
| Sysi | in ubuntu you needed install it separately | 23:07 |
| jar | PPA's exist for this purpose. | 23:07 |
| Sysi | i still haven't :P | 23:07 |
| jar | Fedora markets itself as version over feature. | 23:07 |
| jar | er | 23:07 |
| jar | stability | 23:07 |
| jar | Fedora is just a base for Redhat. | 23:07 |
| jar | A test ground, basically. | 23:07 |
| nicklas_ | i dont want an unstable system that i have to reinstall or anything, thats why i dumped sabayon | 23:07 |
| nicklas_ | fedora is definetly not for me then | 23:08 |
| jar | Fedora isn't marketed as a stable desktop. | 23:08 |
| jar | It's Redhat's cutting edge test bed. | 23:08 |
| nicklas_ | then you will get problems with nvidia drivers, xorg, kernel and such | 23:08 |
| nicklas_ | nah | 23:09 |
| nicklas_ | i think xubuntu is the only dist i want to use right now | 23:09 |
| jar | Fedora always adopts stuff first and deals with the breakage later. | 23:09 |
| Sysi | nicklas_: where have you heard about problems with nvidia? | 23:10 |
| Sysi | i think i read somewhere that drivers are in rpmfusion | 23:10 |
| nicklas_ | I havent heard about any problems with nvidia in fedora, but i know how cutting edge distros is | 23:11 |
| nicklas_ | so im not going with fedora :-P | 23:11 |
| Sysi | well, ubuntu is a bit cutting edge | 23:12 |
| nicklas_ | ubuntu/xubuntu has the best mix between stabillity and fresh software | 23:12 |
| nicklas_ | i think | 23:12 |
| nicklas_ | it works after updating packages | 23:13 |
| Sysi | ahem, ubuntu glasses? | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | lol | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | no | 23:13 |
| Sysi | i know ubuntu and derivants are good | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | i also like pardis | 23:13 |
| Sysi | but at least karmic have been a bit diappointment | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | pardus | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | yes | 23:14 |
| nicklas_ | but right now its the only dist i can use | 23:14 |
| knome | Sysi, jaunty was a very good release for xubuntu. | 23:14 |
| Sysi | yes, i still have that on desktop | 23:15 |
| Sysi | working perfectly | 23:15 |
| nicklas_ | why is it a dissapointment? | 23:15 |
| Sysi | bugs | 23:15 |
| nicklas_ | yes? | 23:16 |
| Sysi | sound muted after boot etc | 23:16 |
| Sysi | wlan stucks | 23:16 |
| nicklas_ | had that problem with previous version, muted sound | 23:16 |
| nicklas_ | but not now | 23:16 |
| knome | in karmic, there is not really a media player that *just works*. | 23:18 |
| Sysi | i haven | 23:18 |
| nicklas_ | there isnt? | 23:18 |
| nicklas_ | it does for me | 23:18 |
| Sysi | 't had problems | 23:18 |
| knome | listen is totally unusable, banshee doesn't always even start, exaile crashes often | 23:18 |
| Sysi | rhythmbox ftw | 23:18 |
| nicklas_ | no problem here | 23:18 |
| nicklas_ | audacious is also good | 23:19 |
| Sysi | yeah | 23:19 |
| knome | nicklas_, good to hear, but i've had a different experience | 23:19 |
| knome | i need a player that's able to handle a collection | 23:19 |
| jar | I use Banshee happily fwiw. | 23:19 |
| jar | :( | 23:19 |
| jar | It's not exactly lightweight. | 23:19 |
| jar | But eh, it's worth it. | 23:19 |
| Sysi | knome: why not rhythmbox? | 23:20 |
| knome | Sysi, can't remember. | 23:20 |
| knome | i've tested it though. | 23:20 |
| Sysi | i like it, everyone doesn't | 23:20 |
| nicklas_ | why did xubuntu change from listen too exaile? | 23:20 |
| Sysi | why did change to listen | 23:20 |
| knome | nicklas_, more featureful. and fwiw, listen is totally broken in karmic :P | 23:21 |
| nicklas_ | it is? | 23:21 |
| knome | at least for me. | 23:21 |
| knome | again i can't remember what's broken there but it didn't work | 23:22 |
| knome | so i stooped using it | 23:22 |
| knome | iirc there was some kind of memleak/crashing issue on listen | 23:23 |
| nicklas_ | you didnt get audio or something like that? | 23:23 |
| knome | it might have been solved by now | 23:23 |
| knome | i did. | 23:23 |
| knome | can't really remember, that's so long ago | 23:23 |
| Sysi | this kde soo sucks | 23:27 |
| Sysi | i can't even choose a language | 23:27 |
| Sysi | xfce.now | 23:27 |
| nicklas_ | i dont need gnome or kde anymore, too much eye candy and functions :-P | 23:28 |
| Sysi | not enough :) | 23:28 |
| Sysi | or hard to set up | 23:28 |
| nicklas_ | lol woot? | 23:30 |
| Sysi | opacities first | 23:31 |
| Sysi | moving beetveen workspaces | 23:31 |
| nicklas_ | in kde you mean? | 23:31 |
| knome | opacity on desktop is distracting | 23:32 |
| nicklas_ | depends on how you use it and how much | 23:32 |
| knome | no, it's distracting even in the smallest amounts. | 23:33 |
| Sysi | opacity ♥ | 23:34 |
| knome | yes. | 23:34 |
| knome | :) | 23:34 |
| Sysi | like mac ui, not best settings but so candy that you just can't resist | 23:35 |
| Sysi | no best/pretty irritating | 23:35 |
| nicklas_ | ska ha 100/100 men fick upp 15.02 o ner 91.07 | 23:35 |
| knome | nicklas_, english please... :) | 23:35 |
| nicklas_ | sorry, wrong channel | 23:36 |
| knome | i guessed that ;) | 23:36 |
| Sysi | knome: you should understand that ;) | 23:36 |
| knome | Sysi, i do :P | 23:36 |
| nicklas_ | knome, swedish? | 23:38 |
| knome | nicklas_, from finland, but as you know, swedish is our second official language | 23:39 |
| nicklas_ | knome, yeah | 23:39 |
| Sysi | knome, we'll win this, there's two os us! | 23:39 |
| knome | haha | 23:40 |
| Sysi | aww, xfce ♥ | 23:43 |
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