cdavis | When marking a bug as a duplicate is is proper to write anything to the submitter or just leave it as is? | 01:10 |
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yofel | cdavis: every bug action should be commented, for duplicates see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#A%20duplicate (please replace NUMBER with the bug number) | 01:14 |
cdavis | yofel: a whole wiki page of responses! thank you | 01:17 |
yofel | cdavis: if you're new, you should find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase quite helpful | 01:19 |
yofel | cdavis: and you might want to try the firefox scripts mentioned at the top of the responses page | 01:20 |
cdavis | yofel: I am trying to get the firefox extension working now, thanks again | 01:33 |
yofel | you're welcome | 01:34 |
LimCore | atop kernel patches are not usable with nowdays kernels. It is unmaintained even by upstream it would seem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/atoppatch/+bug/490180 | 02:39 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490180 in atoppatch "Atop patches are out of date - do not match - can not apply to recent kernels" [Undecided,New] | 02:39 |
LimCore | please remove packages kernel-patch-atopcnt kernel-patch-atopacct as they do not work with recent kernels (not even upstream versions) | 02:45 |
Hobbsee | mmm, they look like they should be removed | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | would be nice for you to actually *use* the sponsorship process,though | 02:49 |
LimCore | the what process | 02:50 |
Hobbsee | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | 02:50 |
Hobbsee | used for package removals, among other things | 02:51 |
Hobbsee | else it's much more likely to sit, unfound, forever | 02:51 |
FFEMTcJ | Can someone please wishlist bug 490165 | 02:54 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490165 in debian "[needs-packaging] Go Ollie!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490165 | 02:54 |
FFEMTcJ | wishlist: bug 490151 | 02:59 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490151 in fribidi "[needs-packaging] Upgrade libfribidi to 0.19.x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490151 | 02:59 |
Hobbsee | right, 2 bugs closed. | 03:02 |
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thekorn | good morning | 07:41 |
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_du | Hi All. I've a problem described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/355883 for xterm+bash. Could somebody suggest any w/a for this? | 11:33 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 355883 in mksh "Jaunty: CTRL-LEFT and CTRL-RIGHT do not work in zsh" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 11:33 |
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bddebian | Boo | 15:18 |
thekorn | hello bddebian | 15:19 |
bddebian | Hi thekorn | 15:19 |
WeatherGod | hello | 15:20 |
WeatherGod | I got an apt/aptitude question... | 15:21 |
WeatherGod | is there a way to search your installed packages to determine which ones came from a certain repo? | 15:22 |
jpds | WeatherGod: apt-cache policy <packagename> | 15:29 |
WeatherGod | jpds: well, I want to find the packages that are for a particular repo, not the other way around | 15:30 |
WeatherGod | I have a bug report where it looks like one of the repos might have updated some of the user's packages | 15:31 |
jpds | WeatherGod: Do you know the repo and want to find out which packages are in it? | 15:32 |
WeatherGod | I know the repo, and want to find out which installed packages are from there | 15:33 |
jpds | Hmm. | 15:33 |
mrand | WeatherGod: synaptic, down at the bottom you can click origin. | 15:41 |
WeatherGod | ah, right | 15:42 |
mrand | Then click the first column and it will collect up which ones were installed from that repo | 15:42 |
mrand | Not ideal. | 15:42 |
WeatherGod | but it gets the job done | 15:42 |
mrand | Almost certainly a text way to do it... just haven't researched. | 15:43 |
WeatherGod | ok, looks like the search terms in aptitude are ?installed ?archive(NAME) | 15:46 |
WeatherGod | or ~i ~Aname | 15:47 |
WeatherGod | useful page: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#tableSearchTermQuickGuide | 15:48 |
WeatherGod | or maybe I should use ~Oorigin | 15:49 |
MTecknology | How do I make reporting a bug in Ubuntu not forward to the wiki? | 16:13 |
WeatherGod | ? | 16:14 |
MTecknology | WeatherGod: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | 16:14 |
MTecknology | I just found it.. | 16:14 |
jpds | MTecknology: ?no-redirect | 16:15 |
MTecknology | yup - thanks :) | 16:15 |
MTecknology | I hate that it does that. Be nice if there was a team we could join to prevent that | 16:15 |
WeatherGod | huh, never noticed that... | 16:16 |
WeatherGod | I always go directly to the package and file the bug through that | 16:16 |
jpds | bug #434115. | 16:16 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 434115 in malone "ubuntu/series/+source/package/+filebug?no-redirect redirects any way" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434115 | 16:16 |
jpds | Err, wrong bug. | 16:17 |
MTecknology | I suppose there's the timeout issue now too.... | 16:17 |
jpds | Possibly bug #432088. | 16:18 |
MTecknology | actually... why are my keys not detected correctly.. this is likely the issue. | 16:18 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 432088 in malone "Disable +filebug redirection for ~ubuntu-bugcontrol" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432088 | 16:18 |
MTecknology | It doesn't seem my keyboard is being correctly detected.. standard keys work fine | 16:19 |
MTecknology | function keys and right alt don't though | 16:19 |
MTecknology | Any suggestions? | 16:20 |
WeatherGod | that is odd... | 16:20 |
WeatherGod | what is your keyboard layout set as? | 16:20 |
MTecknology | where do I see that now? | 16:21 |
jpds | MTecknology: System → Preferences → Keyboard. | 16:21 |
MTecknology | jpds: umm.. what tool is that? | 16:21 |
MTecknology | I don't have gnome or kde installed | 16:21 |
WeatherGod | oh... what are you using? | 16:22 |
MTecknology | openbox | 16:22 |
WeatherGod | o..k... never used that | 16:22 |
WeatherGod | is that text-based or graphical? | 16:23 |
MTecknology | gui | 16:23 |
MTecknology | but very minimal | 16:23 |
WeatherGod | ok, is there a section for administration or preferences? | 16:23 |
WeatherGod | or is it *very* minimal? | 16:23 |
MTecknology | this is a slightly modified version of the basic setup -> http://batland.de/files/11625694744--openbox_html_m62c39c45.png | 16:23 |
MTecknology | bascially, they added a background | 16:24 |
MTecknology | this is closer to what I use -> http://lewk.org/img/securityspin.png | 16:24 |
WeatherGod | oh, *that* thing! | 16:24 |
WeatherGod | I always hated that mode when gnome fails | 16:24 |
MTecknology | that mode? | 16:24 |
MTecknology | you mean the X window manager? | 16:24 |
MTecknology | that's not openbox | 16:25 |
MTecknology | X is VERY minimal | 16:25 |
WeatherGod | that's an understatement | 16:25 |
WeatherGod | ok, looking at the openbox wiki page | 16:25 |
MTecknology | nah.. it's functional and doesn't force you to use frambuffer or anything; it works when you need it | 16:26 |
MTecknology | could you please do the right click on your menu and find the command that the keyboard preferences launches? | 16:26 |
WeatherGod | np, give me a second | 16:27 |
MTecknology | It's not an openbox thing; unless there's some new app I need to run when I log in to make things work | 16:27 |
MTecknology | This is what my system looks like after I start using it a little. http://imagebin.ca/img/2aRTMaEJ.png | 16:27 |
WeatherGod | well, what I have is gnome-keyboard-properties | 16:28 |
MTecknology | It's not cluttered; pretty, the menu is nicely organized | 16:28 |
MTecknology | !search gnome-keyboard-properties | 16:28 |
ubot4 | None found | 16:28 |
MTecknology | :( | 16:28 |
MTecknology | !info gnome-keyboard-properties | 16:28 |
ubot4 | MTecknology: Package gnome-keyboard-properties does not exist in karmic | 16:28 |
WeatherGod | it is a program on my fedora and ubuntu systems | 16:30 |
WeatherGod | probably not a package itself, though | 16:30 |
MTecknology | ya, not sure what it comes in - I'm excptecting massive deps | 16:30 |
WeatherGod | on fedora, there is system-config-keyboard | 16:30 |
MTecknology | not here | 16:31 |
MTecknology | I wonder if it's gnome-control-center | 16:31 |
WeatherGod | brb | 16:32 |
MTecknology | 207MB in deps | 16:32 |
MTecknology | holy crap; it's even pulling nautilus | 16:33 |
MTecknology | and there it is | 16:34 |
MTecknology | Keyboard model: unknown | 16:35 |
MTecknology | How can I figure out what I need to use? | 16:35 |
MTecknology | It's a laptop keyboard | 16:36 |
ogra | MTecknology, did you try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ? | 16:36 |
ogra | X should use whatever that command configures in /etc/default/console-setup | 16:37 |
MTecknology | I need to reboot for that, huh? | 16:38 |
MTecknology | I'll brb | 16:38 |
ogra | at least for such minimal desktops like openbox where you dont have any additional kbd setup | 16:38 |
ogra | well, you definately need to restart X | 16:38 |
MTecknology | I HATE the network in this univerisyt | 16:51 |
hggdh | WeatherGod: you can 'apt-file search gnome-keyboard-properties', for example, and find that it belongs to gnome-control-center | 16:52 |
MTecknology | ogra: functions keys still don't work and the working Alt key switched ot the other side :P | 16:52 |
hggdh | WeatherGod: save thing would happen with 'dpkg -S gnome-keyboard-properties', as along as the package owning the file is installed | 16:53 |
hggdh | s/save/same/ | 16:53 |
MTecknology | ogra: I tried Generic 105-key (Intl) PC | 16:54 |
MTecknology | that was default too | 16:54 |
MTecknology | doesn't look like lspci wants to tell me anything useful :( | 16:56 |
MTecknology | I could try evdev ?? | 16:58 |
MTecknology | nope | 17:00 |
MTecknology | I figured out why Alt keys weren't working | 17:00 |
MTecknology | Still no function keys | 17:00 |
MTecknology | could try kernel keymap - but I doubt that will help | 17:01 |
MTecknology | this sucks | 17:04 |
MTecknology | really, by big issue is not having screen brightness control... I'd rather not open yet another bug to figure this out either | 17:06 |
MTecknology | I know it's a keybaord issue because unpligging the power changes the brightness | 17:08 |
MTecknology | worked perfect in 9.04 :D | 17:12 |
MTecknology | D:* | 17:12 |
MTecknology | are you freakin' serious.... | 17:15 |
MTecknology | magic working situation | 17:15 |
MTecknology | time to reboot and test | 17:16 |
MTecknology | was working until I restarted - didn't change anything though | 17:18 |
MTecknology | this is seriously screwec up... the mute button is registering input in xev; but brightness up/down don't | 17:20 |
MTecknology | only 4 of my 9 Fn keys work right | 17:21 |
WeatherGod | MTecknology: what laptop are you using? | 17:40 |
MTecknology | WeatherGod: Sony Vaio VGN-FZ240E | 17:40 |
WeatherGod | so, is it just the special keys now? | 17:41 |
MTecknology | yup | 17:41 |
WeatherGod | is it that they aren't assigned, or is the signal not even coming in? | 17:41 |
WeatherGod | I am not sure, but I think there has to be a database somewhere that contains the list of special keys for different laptops | 17:42 |
MTecknology | xev doesn't register the event at all | 17:42 |
WeatherGod | well, keyboards | 17:42 |
WeatherGod | heh | 17:43 |
WeatherGod | so, probably not a hotkeys issue | 17:43 |
MTecknology | idk... I don't want to open a bug :'( | 17:43 |
MTecknology | I'm way over tired and I just want it to work :'( ... | 17:44 |
* MTecknology realizes he's nearly pouting now | 17:44 | |
MTecknology | There's another bug I want to open - but I feel like avoiding that for now | 17:45 |
hggdh | I dimly remember of something relating to the kernel about this special keys thingy... MTecknology, have you searched the kernel ML? | 17:46 |
MTecknology | kernel ML? | 17:47 |
hggdh | mailing list | 17:47 |
MTecknology | nope | 17:47 |
MTecknology | I'll do that after I've had a nap - I don't have that patience right now | 17:47 |
hggdh | well, when one is still stuck, nothing like a (potentially fruitless) new search | 17:47 |
MTecknology | I do remember having this issue in the past too... | 17:47 |
MTecknology | there was a big bug report but it was mostly abotu the backlight controls | 17:48 |
MTecknology | alrighty; class is over - next class means only a little internet. I'll be back in a minute | 17:49 |
WeatherGod | ok | 17:49 |
WeatherGod | does anybody have a clue about bug 490307 | 17:57 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490307 in gnome-system-monitor "Pb affichage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490307 | 17:57 |
WeatherGod | it doesn't seem to say anything useful | 17:57 |
WeatherGod | "Bugs affichage" | 17:58 |
WeatherGod | maybe I am missing something here? | 17:58 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, feel free to close it | 17:58 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, the reporter is not registered on launchpad anymore | 17:58 |
WeatherGod | pedro_: thanks, setting to invalid | 17:58 |
WeatherGod | ah | 17:59 |
pedro_ | you're welcome | 17:59 |
MTecknology | hggdh: if you have any ideas; I'm back for a little bit | 18:00 |
MTecknology | aside from the afore mentioned; search mailing list | 18:01 |
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WeatherGod | can someone set bug 490294 to "wishlist" | 18:20 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490294 in totem "ASS not fully supported by Totem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490294 | 18:20 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, that's a duplicate of bug 159718 | 18:29 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 159718 in gstreamer0.10 "Not support for subtitles SSA/ASS (Sub Station Alpha)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159718 | 18:29 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, could you mark it as such? | 18:29 |
WeatherGod | no, it isn't | 18:29 |
WeatherGod | this report says that it can read the subtitles, and even display them | 18:30 |
WeatherGod | but the rendering isn't stylized | 18:30 |
WeatherGod | at, least, that's my understanding | 18:30 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, somebody having the issue should send it upstream then | 18:31 |
WeatherGod | ok | 18:32 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, look at bug 395866 | 18:36 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 395866 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "Totem cannot use the new assrender plugin to display ASS subtitles" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395866 | 18:36 |
WeatherGod | and, that is still different | 18:36 |
WeatherGod | that was a plugin problem | 18:36 |
pedro_ | Until this is implemented, ASS subtitles, will continue to be rendered in a rather ugly fashion. | 18:37 |
pedro_ | how that's different from the other one? | 18:37 |
WeatherGod | pedro_, sorry, you are right... I did not see that in the description | 18:38 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, no worries, could you mark the previous one as dup of that one? | 18:38 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, thanks for triaging! | 18:38 |
WeatherGod | no prob | 18:39 |
WeatherGod | pedro_, curious, why did it get marked as invalid | 18:39 |
pedro_ | WeatherGod, the totem task you mean on the latest bug? that's because isn't a totem issue rather a gstreamer one | 18:41 |
WeatherGod | ah, ok | 18:41 |
WeatherGod | pedro_, thanks for your help | 18:43 |
pedro_ | you're welcome | 18:43 |
WeatherGod | bug 490270 looks like a wishlist item | 18:44 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490270 in command-not-found "Uncooperative with laptop-mode-tools" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490270 | 18:44 |
hggdh | WeatherGod: I *sort* of agree with you -- I am just unsure this is a wishlist or just an Invalid one... | 18:49 |
hggdh | but I will mark as wish | 18:50 |
WeatherGod | yeah, I just figure it might be a possible optimization | 18:51 |
WeatherGod | don't know exactly how it would be done, but anywho... | 18:51 |
WeatherGod | plus, who will care when everyone goes to solid state? | 18:51 |
hggdh | this is why I went with you. I personally doubt it makes sense by itself, but the concept is interesting | 18:52 |
hggdh | anyway, solid state is still some time away ;-) | 18:54 |
WeatherGod | hggdh, any thoughts on where this one should be set to: bug 490272 | 18:54 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490272 in ubuntu "Monitor Brightness goes up and down by itself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490272 | 18:54 |
WeatherGod | I love my solid state in my netbook | 18:54 |
WeatherGod | I am rather rough on my appliances | 18:54 |
WeatherGod | don't know if it is hotkeys or some other sort of kde thing | 18:55 |
hggdh | this is a good bug... perhaps something on udev? | 18:56 |
WeatherGod | don't know... and I am not exactly sure how to collect additional info | 18:56 |
WeatherGod | doesn't look like the problem is impacting performance, so I guess it is possible to still collect key events | 18:57 |
hggdh | WeatherGod: start by considering it related to udev or linux itself | 18:57 |
WeatherGod | I don't think it is udev... considering that the device is loaded, obviously | 18:58 |
WeatherGod | looks to be more a control issue | 18:58 |
hggdh | it *might* be related to X | 18:58 |
WeatherGod | does X control brightness? | 18:58 |
WeatherGod | guess I could ask the X people | 18:59 |
hggdh | but I am not sure anyways. But we have no idea of the what is exactly the hardware is | 18:59 |
hggdh | and either X or linux would collect this data | 18:59 |
WeatherGod | true, I'll ask the OR what is the hardware | 18:59 |
WeatherGod | and I'll quickly pop over to the X forum to rule them out | 19:00 |
WeatherGod | hggdh, X does control the brightness level, but it does not change it | 19:10 |
WeatherGod | it merely exports /sys/class/backlight | 19:10 |
hggdh | so we may go back to Linux | 19:12 |
WeatherGod | yeah | 19:12 |
hggdh | perhaps related to ACPI | 19:13 |
spO | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/440233 <--- this bug is not assigned.... do you think it would ever be fixed within a few months or shoudl i be looking at a new motherboard+ integrated video card? | 19:13 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 440233 in fglrx-installer "fglrx fails at startup because of missing amdpcsdb.default + removal leaves bad settings in Xorg.conf" [High,Confirmed] | 19:13 |
WeatherGod | that is possible | 19:13 |
WeatherGod | sp0, when you removed your xorg.conf file, does everything work? | 19:15 |
spO | yes | 19:16 |
spO | but it also disables fglrx driver | 19:16 |
WeatherGod | how do you know? | 19:16 |
spO | because i check ? | 19:17 |
spO | oh wait, no i use iniuition | 19:17 |
spO | i go where it says i can enable or disable a driver... and i notice it changes to not enabled again | 19:17 |
micahg1 | hggdh: I keep having people with trouble using the new apport instructions on karmic | 19:18 |
WeatherGod | is there any problems with not using the fglrx driver? | 19:18 |
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WeatherGod | sp0, sorry if it is explained in the bug report, I am scanning through it right now | 19:20 |
micahg | spO: have you tried regenerating the xorg.conf with aticonfig? | 19:20 |
spO | right after i install fglrx , i do aticonfig -initial | 19:23 |
WeatherGod | spO, another user noted that with fiddling around with compiz settings, you can improve performance of the display | 19:24 |
WeatherGod | the trouble seems to be with the proprietary driver package, which there is little we can do about except complain to ATI, I think | 19:24 |
spO | the driver doesn't work on my 3200 hd card... it is sugeested that it won't work with 3000-3999 series card | 19:24 |
spO | ok | 19:24 |
spO | i have no problems with jaunty | 19:24 |
WeatherGod | well, the new kernel included some changes with display (called modesetting) | 19:25 |
WeatherGod | and proprietary drivers have not caught up | 19:25 |
micahg | spO: are you using the drivers from ATI directly or the packages in karmic? | 19:25 |
spO | yes | 19:26 |
spO | what is modesetting? | 19:26 |
WeatherGod | spO, you are asking the wrong person... it has something to do with the new Direct Rendering Mode | 19:27 |
spO | and that is ati or xwindows? | 19:28 |
spO | oh | 19:28 |
spO | okay | 19:28 |
WeatherGod | spO, what is the answer to micahg's question? | 19:29 |
spO | yes, they are directly from them | 19:29 |
spO | they are dated the 17th of this month | 19:30 |
WeatherGod | micahg: ---^ | 19:31 |
spO | oh | 19:31 |
spO | he asked two questions | 19:31 |
spO | yes i tried that | 19:31 |
micahg | spO: what about the version from karmic, I know there were some tweaks to work with the new kernel | 19:31 |
spO | i used aticonfig -initual | 19:31 |
spO | amdpcsdb.default | 19:32 |
spO | is missing | 19:32 |
spO | it is what is stated | 19:32 |
spO | micahg, a custom kernel? | 19:33 |
spO | wouldn't a custom kernel not work with close sourced drivers? | 19:33 |
micahg | no, idk if there are customizations to the fglrx-installer package in karmic | 19:33 |
micahg | spO: have you talked to #ubuntu-x yet? | 19:34 |
spO | yep | 19:34 |
spO | i asked them at the same time as here | 19:34 |
spO | they said : nothing | 19:34 |
micahg | spO: you have to be patient in that channel | 19:35 |
spO | glad, i am in here too | 19:35 |
WeatherGod | bug 490346 probably should be a wishlist item | 19:44 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490346 in kdegraphics "gwenview should be associated with pnm images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490346 | 19:44 |
micahg | WeatherGod: done | 19:48 |
WeatherGod | thanks | 19:48 |
WeatherGod | I am just trying to get as many as I can find from the backlog from vacation... | 19:49 |
WeatherGod | fun stuff | 19:49 |
micahg | backlog? | 19:49 |
hggdh | micahg: what do you mean with problems with apport instructions? | 19:49 |
WeatherGod | well, my RSS reader | 19:49 |
micahg | hggdh: enable for single use | 19:50 |
micahg | I see the instructions were removed from the wiki | 19:50 |
hggdh | oh | 19:51 |
hggdh | I had not noticed it | 19:52 |
micahg | are we no longer encouraging people to submit one time apport crashes? | 19:52 |
hggdh | I *think* there was some discussions on UDS regarding apport on stable, but right now I do not remember how they went | 19:52 |
hggdh | micahg: what is the url? | 19:53 |
micahg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport | 19:53 |
hggdh | last revision | 19:55 |
micahg | so, I've been telling people to use the service command to start apport which has been failing | 19:56 |
hggdh | yes, it seems it has been discontinued | 19:57 |
hggdh | why were we not informed? | 19:57 |
micahg | ok, how to we get people to report crashes? | 19:57 |
micahg | hggdh: idk :) | 19:57 |
hggdh | per the change, it seems now you *have* to enable it permanently | 19:57 |
hggdh | which really sounds -- to me, at least -- as an immense overkill | 19:58 |
WeatherGod | waitaminute.... the apport service has been set to off by default? | 19:58 |
hggdh | WeatherGod: always on stable releases | 19:58 |
WeatherGod | ok | 19:59 |
WeatherGod | never noticed | 19:59 |
micahg | hggdh: should we ask brian? | 20:00 |
WeatherGod | just noticed this one user filing lots of similar bugs related to the gdb debugger | 20:16 |
WeatherGod | seems like they are getting ignored | 20:16 |
WeatherGod | don't know who is at fault here | 20:17 |
micahg | hggdh: ok, apport single instance is broke in karmic and fixed in lucid | 20:17 |
micahg | hggdh: I'm going to add it to the meeting agenda for next week | 20:17 |
hggdh | micahg: good idea; we might also see if we can backport it | 20:18 |
hggdh | brb | 20:18 |
micahg | hggdh: I can try to make an SRU | 20:19 |
WeatherGod | ok, and this bug is weird... bug 490156 | 20:20 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490156 in grub2 "grub install did not work on my desktop with ubuntu 9.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490156 | 20:20 |
WeatherGod | the way I read it, it seems like the user expected it to open up a gui | 20:21 |
WeatherGod | which makes me wonder if, somehow, a icon got installed or something | 20:21 |
WeatherGod | nm, looks like grub-install didn't work in the update | 20:22 |
hggdh | micahg: cool. when you have the debdiff, send it to me, and I will test | 20:27 |
WeatherGod | I need a second opinion regarding the gdb bugs filed by this user | 20:39 |
WeatherGod | take a look at what dima-gmail user filed | 20:40 |
WeatherGod | if you search dima's bugs for the string "gdb", you will see a series of similar bugs, usually associated with freezes | 20:41 |
WeatherGod | makes me wonder if something else is wrong | 20:41 |
jjardon | hello, There is https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk, should https://bugs.launchpad.net/libgtk should be removed? | 21:29 |
duncan-nz | I didn't find a dup... is there a known bug when installing pidgin on 9.10 that empathy loses all accounts and settings? | 22:02 |
duncan-nz | I've been using empathy up to now and just installed pidgin. | 22:02 |
WeatherGod | huh, empathy is supposed to replace pidgin | 22:03 |
WeatherGod | did the account information show up in pidgin? | 22:04 |
duncan-nz | yes, pidgin has taken everything and runs fine, empathy is now prompting me to import settings from pidgin!!?? | 22:04 |
micahg | WeatherGod: it only replaces as default, pidgin is still in archive | 22:04 |
WeatherGod | so, import the settings | 22:05 |
WeatherGod | that is odd that the pidgin install would mess around with the empathy settings though | 22:06 |
WeatherGod | micahg, is pidgin set to be depracated? | 22:06 |
micahg | WeatherGod: no | 22:06 |
WeatherGod | so, they just changed the default messenger? | 22:06 |
micahg | WeatherGod: yes | 22:06 |
micahg | WeatherGod: for gnome | 22:07 |
WeatherGod | but pidgin is still being actively developed? | 22:07 |
micahg | WeatherGod: yes | 22:07 |
WeatherGod | ok, somewhere, there is a punchline.... | 22:08 |
micahg | WeatherGod: no | 22:08 |
WeatherGod | note, I haven't tried empathy yet, so I don't know which is better | 22:09 |
duncan-nz | WeatherGod, empathy has a more flexible underlying architecture which already allows webcam and mic, supposedly also Voip soon. | 22:09 |
WeatherGod | ah, that is nice | 22:09 |
duncan-nz | ... it's just is having trouble connecting to MSN for me so I thought I'd try pidgin again... | 22:09 |
duncan-nz | but about this bug... so I should go ahead and file it then? | 22:10 |
WeatherGod | I think so, it seems like it is a packaging bug | 22:10 |
WeatherGod | at least, that's my guess | 22:10 |
duncan-nz | done https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/490546 | 22:16 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 490546 in empathy "Installing Pidgin wipes out my Empathy account settings" [Undecided,New] | 22:16 |
hggdh | micahg: do you have the bug # for the apport issue? | 22:21 |
micahg | no, I don't even knwo if one is filed | 22:21 |
micahg | let me check the changelog | 22:21 |
micahg | hggdh: a number is not listed | 22:22 |
hggdh | ah well. But it is in the apport for Lucid, right? | 22:22 |
micahg | hggdh: yes | 22:22 |
hggdh | micahg: thank you | 22:23 |
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