micahg | fta: I seem to have trouble building sqlite3 for songbird | 01:05 |
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_Tsk_ | Could any of you give the Thunderbird QA team insights on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528880 ? | 13:03 |
ubottu | Mozilla bug 528880 in General "New Mail Download locks up Thunderbird." [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 13:03 |
asac | done | 14:08 |
fta2 | google maps is seriously broken with ff 3.7 | 14:09 |
fta2 | works fine with 3.5 | 14:09 |
fta2 | [reed], ^^ | 14:10 |
fta2 | asac, ^^ | 14:10 |
asac | i am on 3.6 and 3.5 ... so cant confirm nor deny | 14:12 |
fta2 | create a path between 2 points, once you have the blue line, grab a point somewhere in it and move it to change the directions | 14:12 |
asac | thats a use case i never even did ;) | 14:12 |
fta2 | it's very useful inside cities | 14:13 |
fta2 | if you want to avoid some roads | 14:13 |
asac | i dont even see such a feature | 14:14 |
fta2 | asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv | 14:18 |
fta2 | the popup menu is annoying too | 14:18 |
asac | ogra reported that chromium session restore does not work on killall ... but works on instant poweroff or killlall -9 ... known? | 14:18 |
asac | also doesnt work if you log out of X | 14:18 |
* asac checks video | 14:19 | |
asac | ah | 14:19 |
fta2 | hmm, noone else complained about that, at least, not to me | 14:19 |
asac | interestring | 14:19 |
fta2 | i have the popup issue only at work (64bit), not at home (32bit) | 14:20 |
fta2 | and the gmap issue on both | 14:20 |
asac | great feature ;) | 14:21 |
asac | nice | 14:21 |
asac | walking ... | 14:21 |
asac | ;) | 14:21 |
asac | sorry for going off topic ;) | 14:21 |
fta2 | i asked a friend to test with 3.5, it's fine, and broken with 3.7 too | 14:21 |
asac | but didnt know that google supports even walking through parks etc. | 14:21 |
asac | yeah. let [reed] deal with that | 14:22 |
asac | he is _the_ expert ;) | 14:22 |
fta2 | yep, i use it very often, for walking or riding | 14:22 |
fta2 | [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) | 14:27 |
fta2 | 3.5 doesn't have the popup issue btw | 14:27 |
[reed] | ?? | 14:51 |
[reed] | expert at what? | 14:51 |
fta2 | damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now | 14:59 |
fta2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/ | 14:59 |
fta2 | [reed], ^^ | 14:59 |
[reed] | do you have NoScript? | 15:00 |
fta2 | nope | 15:01 |
[reed] | hmm | 15:01 |
[reed] | I haven't crashed in a while | 15:01 |
[reed] | been about two weeks or so | 15:01 |
[reed] | since I last crashed | 15:01 |
fta2 | it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage | 15:01 |
[reed] | wfm | 15:02 |
fta2 | happens on a friends computer too | 15:02 |
fta2 | ok, moving to chromium | 15:02 |
[reed] | hmm | 15:02 |
fta2 | 3 bugs in 1h, that's too much | 15:09 |
[reed] | I'm not seeing this | 15:12 |
[reed] | let me make sure I'm on latest nightly | 15:12 |
fta2 | the gmap bug is not new, i noticed it last week for sure | 15:15 |
fta2 | the crash seems new | 15:15 |
fta2 | the popup menu on gmap is really old, months old | 15:16 |
[reed] | popup menu? | 15:16 |
fta2 | <fta2> [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) | 15:16 |
[reed] | I guess I should watch your videos | 15:16 |
[reed] | fta2: so, Google has been bad about user agent sniffing | 15:19 |
[reed] | in the past | 15:19 |
[reed] | what happens if you install user agent switcher or something like it and fake your user agent to be Firefox? | 15:19 |
[reed] | on 3.7 | 15:19 |
jcastro | hi fta2 | 15:32 |
* jcastro also waves at [reed] | 15:32 | |
[reed] | jcastro: hiya :) | 15:32 |
fta2 | [reed], i've been using 3.7 since day 1, gmap was fine, it's a recent regression | 15:49 |
fta2 | jcastro, hey | 15:49 |
[reed] | hmm | 15:49 |
jcastro | fta2, I have a question | 15:49 |
jcastro | fta2, you know how we have prism convinience packages? Like for facebook, etc. | 15:49 |
jcastro | How easy is it to make ones for chromium? | 15:50 |
fta2 | it's trivial, just 1 desktop file per website | 15:50 |
fta2 | and an icon | 15:50 |
jcastro | I am guessing the hard part is finding an icon | 15:51 |
jcastro | that is freely licensed, etc. | 15:51 |
fta2 | yes, that was the blocker for prism | 15:51 |
jcastro | so I could base one off a prism package right? | 15:51 |
fta2 | hmm, it's totally different | 15:52 |
fta2 | prism needs a .webapp file (a zip) with a bunch of stuff in it | 15:52 |
jcastro | ah | 15:52 |
fta2 | css, js, json, icon, etc.. | 15:52 |
jcastro | is there an existing or example package I can base off of that you can think of? | 15:52 |
fta2 | with chromium, use the feature directly, it will create a desktop file on your desktop, that's what you have to package | 15:53 |
fta2 | by default, the desktop file refers to an icon in ~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/ created from the favicon | 15:56 |
jcastro | does the shortcut refresh the icon on it's own as the user uses it? | 15:56 |
fta2 | no, it fetches the icon when you create the shortcut, then it's cached | 15:59 |
jcastro | ok | 15:59 |
fta2 | i don't know if it's possible to specify some prefs like for prism (window size, url & status bars visible, etc) | 16:07 |
fta2 | for example, for a pastebin, you need the url bar to be able to copy/paste the link | 16:08 |
fta2 | jcastro, ^^, do you have enough info? | 16:39 |
fta2 | jcastro, btw, did you read my dent about chromium releases? | 16:39 |
fta2 | micahg, hi, just checked 3.6, the unicode bug is still there. but it seems gone in 3.7 | 16:43 |
fta2 | the popup menu bug is in 3.6 too | 16:44 |
micahg | fta2: it landed on 3.6 yesterday, so should be fixed in today's build | 16:44 |
fta2 | but gmap is fine, unlike 3.7 | 16:44 |
micahg | popup menu bug? | 16:44 |
fta2 | [reed], ^^ | 16:44 |
fta2 | <fta2> <fta2> [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) | 16:44 |
fta2 | micahg, ^^ | 16:44 |
jcastro | fta2, I have enough info, I'll go read your dent now | 16:46 |
micahg | fta2: any errors on the console? | 16:46 |
micahg | FF error console | 16:46 |
fta2 | nothing relevant | 16:48 |
jcastro | wow | 16:48 |
jcastro | that tree is brilliant | 16:48 |
fta2 | jcastro, but that's a lot of releases, ~60 in 60 days outside of trunk | 16:49 |
jcastro | yeah | 16:49 |
jcastro | they did say once they get a stable release out that it should be more sane though right? | 16:50 |
fta2 | i had to write a script to draw that because i checked manually, and i quickly found out there was a lot more than i thought | 16:50 |
jcastro | heh | 16:50 |
jcastro | do they still not have symlinks pointing to the right build for the right channel? | 16:51 |
fta2 | i just remember that they said we're doomed to follow trunk in a never ending beta | 16:51 |
fta2 | nothing i can find. I'd like a bunch of links or a file pointing to what their 3 channels are currently shipping | 16:52 |
fta2 | that would be enough for me | 16:52 |
jcastro | yeah | 16:53 |
jcastro | just stable, beta, dev symlinks would do the trick | 16:53 |
jcastro | I will ask them again after they ship beta | 16:53 |
fta2 | for this tree, i also have the exact rev-ids in their svn for each node | 16:53 |
jcastro | I only saw 2 beta bugs left this morning | 16:53 |
micahg | fta2: unfortunately, my attempts to fix songbird failed...I'm going to try a full download from svn without filtering anything out, I added sqlite, but it didn't seem to be enough | 17:09 |
jdstrand_ | asac, fta2: hi! I've got a pending merge request for an SRU for firefox-3.5. (lp:~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-452591+455792+447006+464016+473268) | 17:11 |
jdstrand_ | asac, fta2: it seems that it would perhaps be easier if I had commit access to ff35 and higher so I can adjust the AA profiles on my own. what do you think? | 17:12 |
asac | i am fine with that. unless fta2 is uncomfortable | 17:12 |
fta2 | i'm fine | 17:14 |
jdstrand_ | \o/ | 17:14 |
asac | jdstrand_: keep changelog format as we do ;) :) | 17:14 |
asac | fta2: can you add him? | 17:14 |
* asac on call atm | 17:14 | |
asac | otherwise in 1h | 17:14 |
jdstrand_ | asac: sure thing | 17:14 |
fta2 | jdstrand_, done but it's weird, weren't you already member? | 17:18 |
fta2 | 2008-07-29 | 17:18 |
jdstrand_ | fta2: I know I had access to the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa... | 17:19 |
jdstrand_ | fta2: I didn't think I had commit access to bzr though-- I seem to remember trying at first | 17:19 |
jdstrand_ | and was told to use the merge review process | 17:20 |
fta2 | asking for review is always nice for those huge packages, but if it's just the apparmor thing, just go ahead, you're the guy ;) | 17:21 |
jdstrand_ | fta2: ok. I'll give it a go sometime soonish. if I have problems, I'll ask. thanks! :) | 17:22 |
fta2 | jdstrand_, would be nice if you could add the apparmor to the other ff branches, they have a lot of users too | 17:24 |
fta2 | i'm not sure chromium need that though, it's already running in a sandbox | 17:25 |
jdstrand_ | fta2: yeah-- that was part of the reason for the request. it'll become even more important as ff versions are EOLd | 17:25 |
jdstrand_ | fta2: not planning chromium atm | 17:25 |
jdstrand_ | though, I read (parts of) the security design for ChromeOS, and they plan to use a MAC for chromium, so we'll see (not planned for Lucid) | 17:26 |
asac | jdstrand_: for now commit it to the .head branches. and lets check tomorrow for the stable branches wrt SRU/committing etc. | 17:28 |
asac | e.g. all .head branches if yu want (ffox 3.7, 3.6, ...) | 17:28 |
jdstrand_ | ok | 17:28 |
asac | jdstrand_: welcome to the team ;) | 17:38 |
jdstrand_ | asac: thanks! | 17:39 |
micahg | asac: I wasn't sure if I was supposed to approve merge requests, so I left them for you | 17:40 |
asac | micahg: ok. if you are comfortable you can do that ... use some reasonal self-judgement etc. ;) | 17:41 |
micahg | asac: ok | 17:49 |
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fta | micahg, can you reproduce the 3 bugs i've mentioned earlier? | 19:57 |
micahg | 3? I saw 2 | 19:58 |
micahg | let me try the gmaps | 19:58 |
micahg | gmap wfm in 3.7 | 19:59 |
micahg | 3.7~a1~hg20091129r3527 | 19:59 |
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fta | micahg, the bug is when you create a path between A and B, and try to modify it by dragging a point from the blue line | 21:03 |
micahg | ah | 21:03 |
fta | the 2nd is the popup menu on top of the gmap menu (as seen on my video) | 21:04 |
fta | the 3rd is a crash in the js engine | 21:04 |
micahg | I didn't see the one about the crash | 21:05 |
fta | <fta2> damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now | 21:05 |
fta | <fta2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/ | 21:05 |
fta | <fta2> it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage | 21:05 |
fta | so 3.7 suffers from 1, 2 and 3, 3.6 from 2 but not 1 (not sure for 3), and 3.5 looks fine | 21:07 |
fta | and upstream doesn't care, as usual | 21:08 |
micahg | fta: I'll see if I can reproduce tomnight | 21:09 |
micahg | *tonight | 21:09 |
fta | so /me moving to chromium, with responsive upstream | 21:09 |
fta | they really care about linux and ubuntu, for a change | 21:10 |
micahg | fta: upstream seems to selectively care if it affects everyone, not just ubuntu/amd64 | 21:12 |
fta | they care more for win & mac | 21:12 |
fta | brb | 21:20 |
[reed] | [15:08:31] <fta> and upstream doesn't care, as usual | 22:01 |
[reed] | where are you getting that from? | 22:01 |
[reed] | stop making stuff up | 22:01 |
[reed] | I have yet to see you file a bug on the issue | 22:01 |
[reed] | I'm just a volunteer like you | 22:01 |
[reed] | I do what I can when I have time | 22:01 |
[reed] | and I've been ridiculously busy lately due to end-of-semester stuff | 22:01 |
[reed] | exams start Thursday for me | 22:01 |
[reed] | so, I really don't want to hear whining if you're not going to file a bug | 22:01 |
fta | if you want, i can quit this group | 22:02 |
[reed] | that's your call, but I do want you to think about what you're saying... I may be a good contact with upstream in general, but I do have other obligations, just as you do | 22:03 |
[reed] | I've repeatedly told you that filing a bug is the best way to get answers | 22:03 |
[reed] | I'm more than happy to make sure a bug gets the attention it deserves | 22:03 |
[reed] | but until that bug is filed, it's all just hearsay | 22:03 |
[reed] | nothing concrete | 22:03 |
fta | [reed], please stop subscribing me to moz bugs, i will remove myself from all i can | 22:05 |
* [reed] rolls eyes | 22:05 | |
[reed] | as you wish | 22:05 |
fta | or better, dev/null my alias | 22:06 |
micahg | fta: you can jsut change your e-mail setting in bugzilla for no notifications | 22:06 |
fta | most of my bugs went wontfix or ignored, so why should i even lose more time with that | 22:07 |
micahg | fta: I'm saying, you can stop getting e-mail in one shot as opposed to unsubscribing from bugs | 22:08 |
[reed] | fta: not really... I just looked, and here are the stats: 5 unresolved, 13 fixed, 4 invalid, 4 wontfix, 5 duplicates | 22:09 |
fta | fixed from dupes | 22:10 |
fta | but whatever, i no longer care | 22:10 |
mconnor | fta: those stats aren't terrible, I'm not really sure what you would consider "caring" enough that you wouldn't make blanket accusations.. | 22:13 |
fta | mconnor, [reed]: ok, you're all perfect, i'm just evil and i blame without reasons | 22:15 |
mconnor | fta: I'm not saying that | 22:15 |
fta | micahg, do you have the infra to host the dailies? | 22:15 |
mconnor | fta: we're not perfect, but it seems you're being somewhat unfair | 22:16 |
jcastro | I think everyone needs to relax a bit. :D | 22:17 |
mconnor | fta: though if you have examples of us being unfair, please let me know | 22:17 |
micahg | fta: the boit? | 22:17 |
micahg | *bot | 22:17 |
mconnor | jcastro: I'm relaxed, albeit concerned, since I do try to get downstream concerns handled with minimal stress | 22:21 |
jcastro | mconnor, you can always bring your concerns to me if you'd like, it's my job to get concerns looked at | 22:21 |
mconnor | jcastro: it's sort of mine too ;) | 22:22 |
jcastro | ah, perfect then | 22:22 |
mconnor | jcastro: I don't have real concerns with downstream, but if upstream is behaving badly, I can help there! | 22:22 |
micahg | fta: yes, I have a server I can host the bot on | 22:22 |
jcastro | mconnor, likewise, except the opposite way | 22:22 |
* mconnor remembers who jcastro is | 22:23 | |
mconnor | right right | 22:23 |
jcastro | though I just got back from vacation so I am extra relaxed. | 22:23 |
jcastro | it was a rough cycle up to that point, heh | 22:23 |
[reed] | fta: mozilla bug 517737 | 22:30 |
ubottu | Mozilla bug 517737 in Event Handling "dragging of a route in Google Maps doesn't work properly" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517737 | 22:30 |
[reed] | seems to only affect 3.7+ | 22:30 |
[reed] | you said you also see it in 3.6, though? | 22:30 |
fta | no | 22:31 |
fta | 3.6 has the popup menu bug | 22:31 |
[reed] | a | 22:31 |
[reed] | ah | 22:31 |
[reed] | fta: popup menu bug == can't right click? or what exactly just so I'm clear | 22:33 |
fta | [reed], it's in my video, in 3.5, right click brings to gmap overlay menu, in 3.6+, it brings both the gmap and ff menus | 22:34 |
fta | -to+the | 22:34 |
[reed] | ah | 22:35 |
pwnguin | http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html | 22:53 |
pwnguin | is chromium actually in ubuntu? | 22:56 |
fta | pwnguin, not officially, it's there https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa (but lp is broken right now) | 23:03 |
fta | pwnguin, i've been packaging it long before spot even started | 23:04 |
pwnguin | yea | 23:04 |
pwnguin | i was just wondering if it had moved out of ppa | 23:05 |
pwnguin | before i made a comment to that effect on his post | 23:05 |
fta | not yet, but we're working on it: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 | 23:06 |
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