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micahgfta: I seem to have trouble building sqlite3 for songbird01:05
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_Tsk_Could any of you give the Thunderbird QA team insights on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528880 ?13:03
ubottuMozilla bug 528880 in General "New Mail Download locks up Thunderbird." [Critical,Unconfirmed]13:03
asacdone14:08
fta2google maps is seriously broken with ff 3.714:09
fta2works fine with 3.514:09
fta2[reed], ^^14:10
fta2asac, ^^14:10
asaci am on 3.6 and 3.5 ... so cant confirm nor deny14:12
fta2create a path between 2 points, once you have the blue line, grab a point somewhere in it and move it to change the directions14:12
asacthats a use case i never even did ;)14:12
fta2it's very useful inside cities14:13
fta2if you want to avoid some roads14:13
asaci dont even see such a feature14:14
fta2asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv14:18
fta2the popup menu is annoying too14:18
asacogra reported that chromium session restore does not work on killall  ... but works on instant poweroff or killlall -9 ... known?14:18
asacalso doesnt work if you log out of X14:18
* asac checks video14:19
asacah14:19
fta2hmm, noone else complained about that, at least, not to me14:19
asacinterestring14:19
fta2i have the popup issue only at work (64bit), not at home (32bit)14:20
fta2and the gmap issue on both14:20
asacgreat feature ;)14:21
asacnice14:21
asacwalking ...14:21
asac;)14:21
asacsorry for going off topic ;)14:21
fta2i asked a friend to test with 3.5, it's fine, and broken with 3.7 too14:21
asacbut didnt know that google supports even walking through parks etc.14:21
asacyeah. let [reed] deal with that14:22
asache is _the_ expert ;)14:22
fta2yep, i use it very often, for walking or riding14:22
fta2[reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK)14:27
fta23.5 doesn't have the popup issue btw14:27
[reed]??14:51
[reed]expert at what?14:51
fta2damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now14:59
fta2http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/14:59
fta2[reed], ^^14:59
[reed]do you have NoScript?15:00
fta2nope15:01
[reed]hmm15:01
[reed]I haven't crashed in a while15:01
[reed]been about two weeks or so15:01
[reed]since I last crashed15:01
fta2it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage15:01
[reed]wfm15:02
fta2happens on a friends computer too15:02
fta2ok, moving to chromium15:02
[reed]hmm15:02
fta23 bugs in 1h, that's too much15:09
[reed]I'm not seeing this15:12
[reed]let me make sure I'm on latest nightly15:12
fta2the gmap bug is not new, i noticed it last week for sure15:15
fta2the crash seems new15:15
fta2the popup menu on gmap is really old, months old15:16
[reed]popup menu?15:16
fta2<fta2> [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK)15:16
[reed]I guess I should watch your videos15:16
[reed]fta2: so, Google has been bad about user agent sniffing15:19
[reed]in the past15:19
[reed]what happens if you install user agent switcher or something like it and fake your user agent to be Firefox?15:19
[reed]on 3.715:19
jcastrohi fta215:32
* jcastro also waves at [reed]15:32
[reed]jcastro: hiya :)15:32
fta2[reed], i've been using 3.7 since day 1, gmap was fine, it's a recent regression15:49
fta2jcastro, hey15:49
[reed]hmm15:49
jcastrofta2, I have a question15:49
jcastrofta2, you know how we have prism convinience packages? Like for facebook, etc.15:49
jcastroHow easy is it to make ones for chromium?15:50
fta2it's trivial, just 1 desktop file per website15:50
fta2and an icon15:50
jcastroI am guessing the hard part is finding an icon15:51
jcastrothat is freely licensed, etc.15:51
fta2yes, that was the blocker for prism15:51
jcastroso I could base one off a prism package right?15:51
fta2hmm, it's totally different15:52
fta2prism needs a .webapp file (a zip) with a bunch of stuff in it15:52
jcastroah15:52
fta2css, js, json, icon, etc..15:52
jcastrois there an existing or example package I can base off of that you can think of?15:52
fta2with chromium, use the feature directly, it will create a desktop file on your desktop, that's what you have to package15:53
fta2by default, the desktop file refers to an icon in ~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/ created from the favicon15:56
jcastrodoes the shortcut refresh the icon on it's own as the user uses it?15:56
fta2no, it fetches the icon when you create the shortcut, then it's cached15:59
jcastrook15:59
fta2i don't know if it's possible to specify some prefs like for prism (window size, url & status bars visible, etc)16:07
fta2for example, for a pastebin, you need the url bar to be able to copy/paste the link16:08
fta2jcastro, ^^, do you have enough info?16:39
fta2jcastro, btw, did you read my dent about chromium releases?16:39
fta2micahg, hi, just checked 3.6, the unicode bug is still there. but it seems gone in 3.716:43
fta2the popup menu bug is in 3.6 too16:44
micahgfta2: it landed on 3.6 yesterday, so should be fixed in today's build16:44
fta2but gmap is fine, unlike 3.716:44
micahgpopup menu bug?16:44
fta2[reed], ^^16:44
fta2<fta2> <fta2> [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK)16:44
fta2micahg, ^^16:44
jcastrofta2, I have enough info, I'll go read your dent now16:46
micahgfta2: any errors on the console?16:46
micahgFF error console16:46
fta2nothing relevant16:48
jcastrowow16:48
jcastrothat tree is brilliant16:48
fta2jcastro, but that's a lot of releases, ~60 in 60 days outside of trunk16:49
jcastroyeah16:49
jcastrothey did say once they get a stable release out that it should be more sane though right?16:50
fta2i had to write a script to draw that because i checked manually, and i quickly found out there was a lot more than i thought16:50
jcastroheh16:50
jcastrodo they still not have symlinks pointing to the right build for the right channel?16:51
fta2i just remember that they said we're doomed to follow trunk in a never ending beta16:51
fta2nothing i can find. I'd like a bunch of links or a file pointing to what their 3 channels are currently shipping16:52
fta2that would be enough for me16:52
jcastroyeah16:53
jcastrojust stable, beta, dev symlinks would do the trick16:53
jcastroI will ask them again after they ship beta16:53
fta2for this tree, i also have the exact rev-ids in their svn for each node16:53
jcastroI only saw 2 beta bugs left this morning16:53
micahgfta2: unfortunately, my attempts to fix songbird failed...I'm going to try a full download from svn without filtering anything out, I added sqlite, but it didn't seem to be enough17:09
jdstrand_asac, fta2: hi! I've got a pending merge request for an SRU for firefox-3.5. (lp:~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-452591+455792+447006+464016+473268)17:11
jdstrand_asac, fta2: it seems that it would perhaps be easier if I had commit access to ff35 and higher so I can adjust the AA profiles on my own. what do you think?17:12
asaci am fine with that. unless fta2 is uncomfortable17:12
fta2i'm fine17:14
jdstrand_\o/17:14
asacjdstrand_: keep changelog format as we do ;) :)17:14
asacfta2: can you add him?17:14
* asac on call atm17:14
asacotherwise in 1h17:14
jdstrand_asac: sure thing17:14
fta2jdstrand_, done but it's weird, weren't you already member?17:18
fta22008-07-2917:18
jdstrand_fta2: I know I had access to the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa...17:19
jdstrand_fta2: I didn't think I had commit access to bzr though-- I seem to remember trying at first17:19
jdstrand_and was told to use the merge review process17:20
fta2asking for review is always nice for those huge packages, but if it's just the apparmor thing, just go ahead, you're the guy ;)17:21
jdstrand_fta2: ok. I'll give it a go sometime soonish. if I have problems, I'll ask. thanks! :)17:22
fta2jdstrand_, would be nice if you could add the apparmor to the other ff branches, they have a lot of users too17:24
fta2i'm not sure chromium need that though, it's already running in a sandbox17:25
jdstrand_fta2: yeah-- that was part of the reason for the request. it'll become even more important as ff versions are EOLd17:25
jdstrand_fta2: not planning chromium atm17:25
jdstrand_though, I read (parts of) the security design for ChromeOS, and they plan to use a MAC for chromium, so we'll see (not planned for Lucid)17:26
asacjdstrand_: for now commit it to the .head branches. and lets check tomorrow for the stable branches wrt SRU/committing etc.17:28
asace.g. all .head branches if yu want (ffox 3.7, 3.6, ...)17:28
jdstrand_ok17:28
asacjdstrand_: welcome to the team ;)17:38
jdstrand_asac: thanks!17:39
micahgasac: I wasn't sure if I was supposed to approve merge requests, so I left them for you17:40
asacmicahg: ok. if you are comfortable you can do that ... use some reasonal self-judgement etc. ;)17:41
micahgasac: ok17:49
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ftamicahg, can you reproduce the 3 bugs i've mentioned earlier?19:57
micahg3? I saw 219:58
micahglet me try the gmaps19:58
micahggmap wfm in 3.719:59
micahg3.7~a1~hg20091129r352719:59
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ftamicahg, the bug is when you create a path between A and B, and try to modify it by dragging a point from the blue line21:03
micahgah21:03
ftathe 2nd is the popup menu on top of the gmap menu (as seen on my video)21:04
ftathe 3rd is a crash in the js engine21:04
micahgI didn't see the one about the crash21:05
fta<fta2> damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now21:05
fta<fta2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/21:05
fta<fta2> it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage21:05
ftaso 3.7 suffers from 1, 2 and 3, 3.6 from 2 but not 1 (not sure for 3), and 3.5 looks fine21:07
ftaand upstream doesn't care, as usual21:08
micahgfta: I'll see if I can reproduce tomnight21:09
micahg*tonight21:09
ftaso /me moving to chromium, with responsive upstream21:09
ftathey really care about linux and ubuntu, for a change21:10
micahgfta: upstream seems to selectively care if it affects everyone, not just ubuntu/amd6421:12
ftathey care more for win & mac21:12
ftabrb21:20
[reed][15:08:31] <fta> and upstream doesn't care, as usual22:01
[reed]where are you getting that from?22:01
[reed]stop making stuff up22:01
[reed]I have yet to see you file a bug on the issue22:01
[reed]I'm just a volunteer like you22:01
[reed]I do what I can when I have time22:01
[reed]and I've been ridiculously busy lately due to end-of-semester stuff22:01
[reed]exams start Thursday for me22:01
[reed]so, I really don't want to hear whining if you're not going to file a bug22:01
ftaif you want, i can quit this group22:02
[reed]that's your call, but I do want you to think about what you're saying... I may be a good contact with upstream in general, but I do have other obligations, just as you do22:03
[reed]I've repeatedly told you that filing a bug is the best way to get answers22:03
[reed]I'm more than happy to make sure a bug gets the attention it deserves22:03
[reed]but until that bug is filed, it's all just hearsay22:03
[reed]nothing concrete22:03
fta[reed], please stop subscribing me to moz bugs, i will remove myself from all i can22:05
* [reed] rolls eyes22:05
[reed]as you wish22:05
ftaor better, dev/null my alias22:06
micahgfta: you can jsut change your e-mail setting in bugzilla for no notifications22:06
ftamost of my bugs went wontfix or ignored, so why should i even lose more time with that22:07
micahgfta: I'm saying, you can stop getting e-mail in one shot as opposed to unsubscribing from bugs22:08
[reed]fta: not really... I just looked, and here are the stats: 5 unresolved, 13 fixed, 4 invalid, 4 wontfix, 5 duplicates22:09
ftafixed from dupes22:10
ftabut whatever, i no longer care22:10
mconnorfta: those stats aren't terrible, I'm not really sure what you would consider "caring" enough that you wouldn't make blanket accusations..22:13
ftamconnor, [reed]: ok, you're all perfect, i'm just evil and i blame without reasons22:15
mconnorfta: I'm not saying that22:15
ftamicahg, do you have the infra to host the dailies?22:15
mconnorfta: we're not perfect, but it seems you're being somewhat unfair22:16
jcastroI think everyone needs to relax a bit. :D22:17
mconnorfta: though if you have examples of us being unfair, please let me know22:17
micahgfta: the boit?22:17
micahg*bot22:17
mconnorjcastro: I'm relaxed, albeit concerned, since I do try to get downstream concerns handled with minimal stress22:21
jcastromconnor, you can always bring your concerns to me if you'd like, it's my job to get concerns looked at22:21
mconnorjcastro: it's sort of mine too ;)22:22
jcastroah, perfect then22:22
mconnorjcastro: I don't have real concerns with downstream, but if upstream is behaving badly, I can help there!22:22
micahgfta: yes, I have a server I can host the bot on22:22
jcastromconnor, likewise, except the opposite way22:22
* mconnor remembers who jcastro is22:23
mconnorright right22:23
jcastrothough I just got back from vacation so I am extra relaxed.22:23
jcastroit was a rough cycle up to that point, heh22:23
[reed]fta: mozilla bug 51773722:30
ubottuMozilla bug 517737 in Event Handling "dragging of a route in Google Maps doesn't work properly" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51773722:30
[reed]seems to only affect 3.7+22:30
[reed]you said you also see it in 3.6, though?22:30
ftano22:31
fta3.6 has the popup menu bug22:31
[reed]a22:31
[reed]ah22:31
[reed]fta: popup menu bug == can't right click? or what exactly just so I'm clear22:33
fta[reed], it's in my video, in 3.5, right click brings to gmap overlay menu, in 3.6+, it brings both the gmap and ff menus22:34
fta-to+the22:34
[reed]ah22:35
pwnguinhttp://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html22:53
pwnguinis chromium actually in ubuntu?22:56
ftapwnguin, not officially, it's there https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa (but lp is broken right now)23:03
ftapwnguin, i've been packaging it long before spot even started23:04
pwnguinyea23:04
pwnguini was just wondering if it had moved out of ppa23:05
pwnguinbefore i made a comment to that effect on his post23:05
ftanot yet, but we're working on it: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=2828723:06

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