[01:05] fta: I seem to have trouble building sqlite3 for songbird === ripps_ is now known as ripps [13:03] <_Tsk_> Could any of you give the Thunderbird QA team insights on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528880 ? [13:03] Mozilla bug 528880 in General "New Mail Download locks up Thunderbird." [Critical,Unconfirmed] [14:08] done [14:09] google maps is seriously broken with ff 3.7 [14:09] works fine with 3.5 [14:10] [reed], ^^ [14:10] asac, ^^ [14:12] i am on 3.6 and 3.5 ... so cant confirm nor deny [14:12] create a path between 2 points, once you have the blue line, grab a point somewhere in it and move it to change the directions [14:12] thats a use case i never even did ;) [14:13] it's very useful inside cities [14:13] if you want to avoid some roads [14:14] i dont even see such a feature [14:18] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv [14:18] the popup menu is annoying too [14:18] ogra reported that chromium session restore does not work on killall ... but works on instant poweroff or killlall -9 ... known? [14:18] also doesnt work if you log out of X [14:19] * asac checks video [14:19] ah [14:19] hmm, noone else complained about that, at least, not to me [14:19] interestring [14:20] i have the popup issue only at work (64bit), not at home (32bit) [14:20] and the gmap issue on both [14:21] great feature ;) [14:21] nice [14:21] walking ... [14:21] ;) [14:21] sorry for going off topic ;) [14:21] i asked a friend to test with 3.5, it's fine, and broken with 3.7 too [14:21] but didnt know that google supports even walking through parks etc. [14:22] yeah. let [reed] deal with that [14:22] he is _the_ expert ;) [14:22] yep, i use it very often, for walking or riding [14:27] [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) [14:27] 3.5 doesn't have the popup issue btw [14:51] <[reed]> ?? [14:51] <[reed]> expert at what? [14:59] damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now [14:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/ [14:59] [reed], ^^ [15:00] <[reed]> do you have NoScript? [15:01] nope [15:01] <[reed]> hmm [15:01] <[reed]> I haven't crashed in a while [15:01] <[reed]> been about two weeks or so [15:01] <[reed]> since I last crashed [15:01] it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage [15:02] <[reed]> wfm [15:02] happens on a friends computer too [15:02] ok, moving to chromium [15:02] <[reed]> hmm [15:09] 3 bugs in 1h, that's too much [15:12] <[reed]> I'm not seeing this [15:12] <[reed]> let me make sure I'm on latest nightly [15:15] the gmap bug is not new, i noticed it last week for sure [15:15] the crash seems new [15:16] the popup menu on gmap is really old, months old [15:16] <[reed]> popup menu? [15:16] [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) [15:16] <[reed]> I guess I should watch your videos [15:19] <[reed]> fta2: so, Google has been bad about user agent sniffing [15:19] <[reed]> in the past [15:19] <[reed]> what happens if you install user agent switcher or something like it and fake your user agent to be Firefox? [15:19] <[reed]> on 3.7 [15:32] hi fta2 [15:32] * jcastro also waves at [reed] [15:32] <[reed]> jcastro: hiya :) [15:49] [reed], i've been using 3.7 since day 1, gmap was fine, it's a recent regression [15:49] jcastro, hey [15:49] <[reed]> hmm [15:49] fta2, I have a question [15:49] fta2, you know how we have prism convinience packages? Like for facebook, etc. [15:50] How easy is it to make ones for chromium? [15:50] it's trivial, just 1 desktop file per website [15:50] and an icon [15:51] I am guessing the hard part is finding an icon [15:51] that is freely licensed, etc. [15:51] yes, that was the blocker for prism [15:51] so I could base one off a prism package right? [15:52] hmm, it's totally different [15:52] prism needs a .webapp file (a zip) with a bunch of stuff in it [15:52] ah [15:52] css, js, json, icon, etc.. [15:52] is there an existing or example package I can base off of that you can think of? [15:53] with chromium, use the feature directly, it will create a desktop file on your desktop, that's what you have to package [15:56] by default, the desktop file refers to an icon in ~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/ created from the favicon [15:56] does the shortcut refresh the icon on it's own as the user uses it? [15:59] no, it fetches the icon when you create the shortcut, then it's cached [15:59] ok [16:07] i don't know if it's possible to specify some prefs like for prism (window size, url & status bars visible, etc) [16:08] for example, for a pastebin, you need the url bar to be able to copy/paste the link [16:39] jcastro, ^^, do you have enough info? [16:39] jcastro, btw, did you read my dent about chromium releases? [16:43] micahg, hi, just checked 3.6, the unicode bug is still there. but it seems gone in 3.7 [16:44] the popup menu bug is in 3.6 too [16:44] fta2: it landed on 3.6 yesterday, so should be fixed in today's build [16:44] but gmap is fine, unlike 3.7 [16:44] popup menu bug? [16:44] [reed], ^^ [16:44] [reed], compare http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.7.ogv (broken) with http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gmap-ff3.5.ogv (OK) [16:44] micahg, ^^ [16:46] fta2, I have enough info, I'll go read your dent now [16:46] fta2: any errors on the console? [16:46] FF error console [16:48] nothing relevant [16:48] wow [16:48] that tree is brilliant [16:49] jcastro, but that's a lot of releases, ~60 in 60 days outside of trunk [16:49] yeah [16:50] they did say once they get a stable release out that it should be more sane though right? [16:50] i had to write a script to draw that because i checked manually, and i quickly found out there was a lot more than i thought [16:50] heh [16:51] do they still not have symlinks pointing to the right build for the right channel? [16:51] i just remember that they said we're doomed to follow trunk in a never ending beta [16:52] nothing i can find. I'd like a bunch of links or a file pointing to what their 3 channels are currently shipping [16:52] that would be enough for me [16:53] yeah [16:53] just stable, beta, dev symlinks would do the trick [16:53] I will ask them again after they ship beta [16:53] for this tree, i also have the exact rev-ids in their svn for each node [16:53] I only saw 2 beta bugs left this morning [17:09] fta2: unfortunately, my attempts to fix songbird failed...I'm going to try a full download from svn without filtering anything out, I added sqlite, but it didn't seem to be enough [17:11] asac, fta2: hi! I've got a pending merge request for an SRU for firefox-3.5. (lp:~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-452591+455792+447006+464016+473268) [17:12] asac, fta2: it seems that it would perhaps be easier if I had commit access to ff35 and higher so I can adjust the AA profiles on my own. what do you think? [17:12] i am fine with that. unless fta2 is uncomfortable [17:14] i'm fine [17:14] \o/ [17:14] jdstrand_: keep changelog format as we do ;) :) [17:14] fta2: can you add him? [17:14] * asac on call atm [17:14] otherwise in 1h [17:14] asac: sure thing [17:18] jdstrand_, done but it's weird, weren't you already member? [17:18] 2008-07-29 [17:19] fta2: I know I had access to the ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa... [17:19] fta2: I didn't think I had commit access to bzr though-- I seem to remember trying at first [17:20] and was told to use the merge review process [17:21] asking for review is always nice for those huge packages, but if it's just the apparmor thing, just go ahead, you're the guy ;) [17:22] fta2: ok. I'll give it a go sometime soonish. if I have problems, I'll ask. thanks! :) [17:24] jdstrand_, would be nice if you could add the apparmor to the other ff branches, they have a lot of users too [17:25] i'm not sure chromium need that though, it's already running in a sandbox [17:25] fta2: yeah-- that was part of the reason for the request. it'll become even more important as ff versions are EOLd [17:25] fta2: not planning chromium atm [17:26] though, I read (parts of) the security design for ChromeOS, and they plan to use a MAC for chromium, so we'll see (not planned for Lucid) [17:28] jdstrand_: for now commit it to the .head branches. and lets check tomorrow for the stable branches wrt SRU/committing etc. [17:28] e.g. all .head branches if yu want (ffox 3.7, 3.6, ...) [17:28] ok [17:38] jdstrand_: welcome to the team ;) [17:39] asac: thanks! [17:40] asac: I wasn't sure if I was supposed to approve merge requests, so I left them for you [17:41] micahg: ok. if you are comfortable you can do that ... use some reasonal self-judgement etc. ;) [17:49] asac: ok === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand === micahg1 is now known as micahg [19:57] micahg, can you reproduce the 3 bugs i've mentioned earlier? [19:58] 3? I saw 2 [19:58] let me try the gmaps [19:59] gmap wfm in 3.7 [19:59] 3.7~a1~hg20091129r3527 === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [21:03] micahg, the bug is when you create a path between A and B, and try to modify it by dragging a point from the blue line [21:03] ah [21:04] the 2nd is the popup menu on top of the gmap menu (as seen on my video) [21:04] the 3rd is a crash in the js engine [21:05] I didn't see the one about the crash [21:05] damn ff3.7, it's crashing like hell now [21:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/331752/ [21:05] it happens when i click on the map link from the google homepage [21:07] so 3.7 suffers from 1, 2 and 3, 3.6 from 2 but not 1 (not sure for 3), and 3.5 looks fine [21:08] and upstream doesn't care, as usual [21:09] fta: I'll see if I can reproduce tomnight [21:09] *tonight [21:09] so /me moving to chromium, with responsive upstream [21:10] they really care about linux and ubuntu, for a change [21:12] fta: upstream seems to selectively care if it affects everyone, not just ubuntu/amd64 [21:12] they care more for win & mac [21:20] brb [22:01] <[reed]> [15:08:31] and upstream doesn't care, as usual [22:01] <[reed]> where are you getting that from? [22:01] <[reed]> stop making stuff up [22:01] <[reed]> I have yet to see you file a bug on the issue [22:01] <[reed]> I'm just a volunteer like you [22:01] <[reed]> I do what I can when I have time [22:01] <[reed]> and I've been ridiculously busy lately due to end-of-semester stuff [22:01] <[reed]> exams start Thursday for me [22:01] <[reed]> so, I really don't want to hear whining if you're not going to file a bug [22:02] if you want, i can quit this group [22:03] <[reed]> that's your call, but I do want you to think about what you're saying... I may be a good contact with upstream in general, but I do have other obligations, just as you do [22:03] <[reed]> I've repeatedly told you that filing a bug is the best way to get answers [22:03] <[reed]> I'm more than happy to make sure a bug gets the attention it deserves [22:03] <[reed]> but until that bug is filed, it's all just hearsay [22:03] <[reed]> nothing concrete [22:05] [reed], please stop subscribing me to moz bugs, i will remove myself from all i can [22:05] * [reed] rolls eyes [22:05] <[reed]> as you wish [22:06] or better, dev/null my alias [22:06] fta: you can jsut change your e-mail setting in bugzilla for no notifications [22:07] most of my bugs went wontfix or ignored, so why should i even lose more time with that [22:08] fta: I'm saying, you can stop getting e-mail in one shot as opposed to unsubscribing from bugs [22:09] <[reed]> fta: not really... I just looked, and here are the stats: 5 unresolved, 13 fixed, 4 invalid, 4 wontfix, 5 duplicates [22:10] fixed from dupes [22:10] but whatever, i no longer care [22:13] fta: those stats aren't terrible, I'm not really sure what you would consider "caring" enough that you wouldn't make blanket accusations.. [22:15] mconnor, [reed]: ok, you're all perfect, i'm just evil and i blame without reasons [22:15] fta: I'm not saying that [22:15] micahg, do you have the infra to host the dailies? [22:16] fta: we're not perfect, but it seems you're being somewhat unfair [22:17] I think everyone needs to relax a bit. :D [22:17] fta: though if you have examples of us being unfair, please let me know [22:17] fta: the boit? [22:17] *bot [22:21] jcastro: I'm relaxed, albeit concerned, since I do try to get downstream concerns handled with minimal stress [22:21] mconnor, you can always bring your concerns to me if you'd like, it's my job to get concerns looked at [22:22] jcastro: it's sort of mine too ;) [22:22] ah, perfect then [22:22] jcastro: I don't have real concerns with downstream, but if upstream is behaving badly, I can help there! [22:22] fta: yes, I have a server I can host the bot on [22:22] mconnor, likewise, except the opposite way [22:23] * mconnor remembers who jcastro is [22:23] right right [22:23] though I just got back from vacation so I am extra relaxed. [22:23] it was a rough cycle up to that point, heh [22:30] <[reed]> fta: mozilla bug 517737 [22:30] Mozilla bug 517737 in Event Handling "dragging of a route in Google Maps doesn't work properly" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517737 [22:30] <[reed]> seems to only affect 3.7+ [22:30] <[reed]> you said you also see it in 3.6, though? [22:31] no [22:31] 3.6 has the popup menu bug [22:31] <[reed]> a [22:31] <[reed]> ah [22:33] <[reed]> fta: popup menu bug == can't right click? or what exactly just so I'm clear [22:34] [reed], it's in my video, in 3.5, right click brings to gmap overlay menu, in 3.6+, it brings both the gmap and ff menus [22:34] -to+the [22:35] <[reed]> ah [22:53] http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html [22:56] is chromium actually in ubuntu? [23:03] pwnguin, not officially, it's there https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa (but lp is broken right now) [23:04] pwnguin, i've been packaging it long before spot even started [23:04] yea [23:05] i was just wondering if it had moved out of ppa [23:05] before i made a comment to that effect on his post [23:06] not yet, but we're working on it: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287