[00:00] <ActionParsnip> andyzammy: look in your apps menu
[00:00] <losha> AlphaW: not sure why you'd give up netbsd for ubuntu...
[00:01] <kas> Hi, what do i do when i get the error message ' Failed to load nvidia module' and i can;t run startx
[00:01] <DaZ> panic
[00:01] <kas> haha
[00:01] <andyzammy> ActionParsnip: the only thing related to java in my applications menu is the java web start thing in "internet", clicking it doesn't do anything
[00:01] <losha> DaZ: less comedy, more support please...
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> kas: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[00:02] <DaZ> i'm supportive enough [;
[00:02] <floppyears> hi guys
[00:02] <floppyears> what's the best way to update ubuntu from the console
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> andyzammy: try: gksudo software-center    (weird american spelling)
[00:02] <floppyears> I'm trying to use dist-upgrade and it's not working very well
[00:02] <mark__> mazda01 : Just run it. It's sdb1. Sorry mate :-)
[00:03] <jonz> hello. I'm under the impression usually things aren't installed cuz they're not a unix standard utility. I'm reading about how to encrypt files and `crypt` seems to be the way, or `mcrypt`. however its not installed by default. is this cuz there's some other suggested way on Ubuntu?
[00:03] <mazda01> mark__, and where is /dev/sdb1 mounted?
[00:03] <andyzammy> ActionParsnip: didn't do anything.. :S
[00:03] <blood> what is a reason my sdb1 would not be recognized?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> andyzammy: read the java factoid and reverse whatever it says to install
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !java
[00:04] <kas>  i am kinda new so what does  Ubuntu Karmic Users mean
[00:05] <andyzammy> ok, thanks
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> kas: if you use karmic you are an ubuntu karmic user
[00:05] <blood> andyzammy: i doubt that java is the reason u cannot upload files.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> blood: the uploader is java based
[00:06] <DaZ> karmic == 9.10 :f
[00:06] <kas> i uok
[00:06] <kas> ok
[00:06] <mazda01> mark__, sudo mount /dev/sdb1/ /mnt/, then issue ls -la /mnt/. that's all i got for you
[00:06] <kas> thanks
[00:06] <mark__> mazda01 : It says under the /dev/sdb :250Gb bit, "This does not look like a partition table, you probably selected the wrong device /DEV/SDB1/
[00:06] <mark__> mazda01 : thanks mate.
[00:07] <floppyears> does anybody know if it's possible to upgrade ubuntu from the command line ?
[00:07] <mapper> in solaris, it uses 'tip hardware' to connect to server management port via serial cable, what's the equivalent in ubuntu?
[00:08] <kas> so on this link you gave me action would i just need to type this in shell sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa
[00:08] <DaZ> floppyears: it is ;f
[00:09] <plut0> opengl is using software emulation, how do i fix this?
[00:09] <floppyears> DaZ: care to share some tips? I tried dist-upgrade and my install is a bit messed up now
[00:10] <kas> so on this link you gave me action would i just need to type this in shell sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa
[00:10] <DaZ> floppyears: i don't use ubuntu ;f
[00:10] <lostinspace_46> Should not this command "PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/home/daniel/gimp-deps/atk-1.29.2" put the named file in my /usr/lib/pkgconfig file?
[00:10] <mahngiel> good evening
[00:11] <hacker_kid> anyway ubuntu can estimate the battery power remaining on a laptop
[00:11] <kas> so on this link you gave me action would i just need to type this in shell sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa
[00:11] <mahngiel> hacker_kid: should be able from the notifications area on a panel
[00:12] <floppyears> DaZ: thanks anyway
[00:12] <hacker_kid> mahngiel, i have the battery icon but no time estimation
[00:12] <mahngiel> kas: that looks right
[00:12] <hacker_kid> just a % remaining
[00:12] <luke> Hi. I'd like to know how I can check what ips/servers an application is connection to. Thanks in advance. :)
[00:12] <mahngiel> hacker_kid: gotchya. might want to try a serverlet?
[00:13] <hacker_kid> mahngiel, huh?
[00:13] <DaZ> kas: and update apt database
[00:13] <DaZ> and install  the driver ;f
[00:13] <mahngiel> hacker_kid: a widget
[00:14] <ZaNeIuM> i dont have sumba installed do i need to, in order to speed up  my smb shares, there very slow
[00:14] <plut0> opengl is using software rendering, how do i fix this?
[00:15] <miromanyth> plut0: Need some more info. Whats your grapics card, what driver/module
[00:15] <epinky> floppyears: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading , "sudo do-release-upgrade" should do the work
[00:15] <plut0> intel gm965/gl960
[00:17] <miromanyth> plut0: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with intel's video. Maybe someone else in the channel could help?
[00:17] <ldiamond> Why is my CPU stuck at 50% when I resume from sleep?
[00:18] <ldiamond> top actually doesnt report any CPU usage, but the cpu usage widget in my top bar does, but doesnt specify the application
[00:18] <mahngiel> i'm just glad to hear somebody who CAN resume from sleep
[00:18] <miromanyth> plut0: Check out this thread: http://paste.ubuntu.com/331394/
[00:18] <epinky> ldiamond: check with "htop"
[00:18] <ldiamond> k
[00:19] <utrrrongeeb> plut0: Does your user account have video acceleration privileges?
[00:20] <plut0> utrrrongeeb: yes
[00:20] <graham> is there anyone here who can help me on how to mount a hard drive at boot
[00:20] <blood> how do i move a file
[00:21] <git__> anyone have Chrome OS work on kvm under Ubuntu?
[00:21] <mahngiel> drag or '-w'
[00:21] <evo190> graham: i'm curious myself if you find out
[00:21] <christopher> Hi, making the switch. Is there a search tool that developers would generally recommend for searching within text files. Something along the line of Visual Studio's Find in Files? Preferably GUI.
[00:22] <luke> Hi. I'd like to know how I can check what ips/servers an application is connection to. Thanks in advance. :)
[00:23] <klown> Is it possible to run a game, and vent in the same wine window, and if so, how do i do this?
[00:23] <mazda01> after i installed the guest additions in virtual box, my display is all garbled, there are no colors. any thoughts? i got sound to work but now graphics adapter is messed up
[00:23] <Zabbadahu> I am unable to get linux to recognise my HDD when booting from disk I have been fiddling all day
[00:24] <Iowan> graham: This How-To help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=283131
[00:25] <mdg> hello!
[00:25] <mazda01> Zabbadahu, maybe you can eleborate
[00:26] <mahngiel> sup mdg
[00:26] <mazda01> !fstab graham
[00:26] <mazda01> graham, !fstab
[00:26] <mdg> mahngiel: just hanging out
[00:26] <mahngiel> mdg: feel ya there. hoping some good tips and ideas come out tonight.
[00:27] <xo_> Hi.  I need a little help with my sound system being taken over by Firefox and Java.  I used to use padsp but since upgrading to Karmic that no longer works.  Any suggestions?
[00:27] <mdg> mahngiel: you running 9.10?
[00:27] <mahngiel> mdg: indeed, yourself?
[00:27] <mdg> mahngiel: still back at 8.10
[00:28] <mahngiel> mdg: this is my cherry-popping version. only been using unix systems 3 weeks now.
[00:28] <Iowan> ! fstab | graham
[00:29] <mahngiel> mdg: so i like to eaves drop on what some people are doing, and throwing in my bit of experience. all while fiddlin w/ the system :)
[00:29] <mdg> mahngiel: 3 weeks!  wow  You tried windows 7 too?
[00:29] <mazda01> thanks Iowan
[00:29] <mahngiel> mdg: actually, it was a coinflip between win7 and ubuntu. ubuntu won cause it's cheaper :P
[00:29] <mdg> mahngiel: I'm a "tweaker" too, but mine 'puter is older
[00:30] <mdg> mahngiel: I hear ya!
[00:30] <Iowan> mazda01: that sneaky | bar...
[00:30] <mazda01> anyone try win7 in a ubuntu virtualbox yet? i can't get a decent resolution after I installed guest-additions
[00:30] <mahngiel> mdg: absolutely, still running an 05 version of what used to be "top-of-the-line" haha
[00:30] <plut0> opengl is using software rasterizer, how do I fix this?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> mdg: yeah 8.10 a rather nice release,  unfortunatly though support will be running out soon
[00:30] <mdg> mahngiel: kinda fun to tweak when its not like your sound or display
[00:30] <Vrooom> Help!  i installed ubuntu 9.10  and it screwed my grub loader.. only go to ubuntu root command prompt..  is there any ubuntu evquivant of fixmbr to get my windoze boot back on?
[00:30] <mdg> sebsebseb: I
[00:31] <mdg> sebsebseb: I've been dragging my feet...
[00:31] <sebsebseb> mdg: ok the ethernet on the other computer didn't just work with 8.10, but other then that,  it's been a good release for me, but then I wanted Ext4 so bye bye 8.10
[00:31] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know if i NEED to install samba4 to get my smb shares to speed up, there very slow currently
[00:31] <sebsebseb> mdg: meaning what exactly?
[00:31] <mdg> sebsebseb: so no major problems with 9.10 for you?
[00:32] <mdg> sebsebseb: the backing stuff up - I always rearrange stuff
[00:32] <sebsebseb> mdg: I had a sound issue,   after running a virtual machine, then losing sound on the host, but other then that no actsaul issues,  just features I didn't like, hence dumping it for another distro
[00:32] <mahngiel> mdg: i still can't get my laptop back from hibernate w/o a hard boot
[00:32] <Lamo> I have a 500GB sata HDD formatted as ext4 I decided to install windows 7 on it in order to play a game. My main Ubuntu install is on my 32GB SSD. So I resized the 500GB drive with gparted and left 39GB free at the end. I then installed ntfsprogs and reformatted it to ntfs. however now when I try to install either xp or 7 both will not recognize the partition. Win7 says "Setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an exis
[00:32] <Lamo> ting system partition." Any clue what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
[00:32] <plut0> opengl is using software rasterizer, how do I fix this?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> mdg: 9.04  is an ok release
[00:33] <mahngiel> Lamo: you have a RAID set up?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> mdg: ,but if you stay on 8.10 for now,  you can clean install and put 10.04 on when that's out
[00:33] <mazda01> Lamo, you shouldn't have formatted the space, just left it unallocated. win7 install would format it for you
[00:33] <Iowan> ZaNeIuM: Samba shares may be faster if mounted via fstab :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mdg: that's a good idea, since then you get Ext4 and Grub 2 by default :)  you won't get that when upgrading from 8.10, through 9.04, and 9.10.  plus  the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade might go wrong on you
[00:34] <Lamo> mazda01, im trying to let win7 format it for me and it does but throws that error back after trying to use it
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mdg: 10.04 is the next Long Term Support release
[00:34] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: you looked at the development pkg for 10.04?
[00:35] <Zabbadahu> mazda01: but of course I am trying to boot from disk I have tried the alternate install as well as the X64 and X86 versions it gives an arror which is listed on the site
[00:35] <mdg> sebsebseb: I will probably wait - time to clear things out I don't want anymore
[00:35] <plut0> opengl is using software rasterizer, how do I fix this?
[00:35] <mdg> mahngiel: what kind of laptop you have?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: you mean if I have tried the development version already,  nope not yet, since I didn't want to do a daily build,  I am waiting for Alpha 1 on  the 10th of December, and then i'll virtual machine that
[00:35] <mahngiel> mdg: hp pavillion zd7000
[00:36] <mazda01> Lamo, not sure then. i am guessing it's maybe because you had a previous formatted patition that you did with ntfsprog. just use gparted, and wipe out the ntfs partition you created. and leave it unallocated. then in win 7 install, choose that space to instal to. that's all i got for you
[00:36] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: wasn't sure how much you like to fiddle, i see you on here alot, and you seem on par with dev staff
[00:36] <yo_rmn> hello
[00:36] <mahngiel> hi
[00:36] <yo_rmn> little problem with Thunderbird
[00:36] <ZaNeIuM> Iowan: im using an xbox media center session for ubuntu 9.10
[00:36] <mahngiel> just ask yo
[00:36] <Lucho_> HI... I need some help making to work serial mouse in ubuntu 9.10 Live CD
[00:37] <Lamo> mazda01, Ok Ill give it a go, thanks!
[00:37] <Lucho_> xorg.conf file does not exists
[00:37] <mahngiel> mdg: it's a pentium 4 running 3 ghz which is still good, but only a 54 mg nvidia card and 512 of ram, but it runs most everything
[00:38] <obscure> If i run apt-get upgrade to update the packages required, (apach2, php5, etc...) do I need to reconfigure them?
[00:38] <yo_rmn> Lucho_ can u read spanish?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> mdg: hmm going back to the issue that I had with 9.10 and coudn't be bothered to try and fix since  decided to put on another distro instead.   I wasn't that clear,  I had log in sound for 9.10 and such, but once I ran a virtual machine,  I lost the sound on the 9.10 host.
[00:38] <Lucho_> yo_rmn soy argentino
[00:39] <yo_rmn> de Ubuntu-ar seee
[00:39] <mdg> sebsebseb: what distro to you go with?
[00:39] <yo_rmn> ok
[00:39] <psyk> is there a big diffrence between ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10?
[00:39] <yo_rmn> mira estos
[00:39] <Pici> !es
[00:39] <mahngiel> !es
[00:39] <sebsebseb> mdg: Mandriva
[00:39] <yo_rmn> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/8143
[00:39] <mahngiel> Pici:  :)
[00:40] <Lucho_> yo_rmn chequeando
[00:40] <sebsebseb> psyk: not as such
[00:40] <yo_rmn> need halp with thunderbird, it does'nt connect
[00:40] <Zabbadahu> mazda01:  The drive is an 80GB formatted to NTFS with XP on it and it boots fine also due to the error ubuntu live takes 20minutes to load
[00:40] <mdg> mahngiel: you laptop specs are pretty similar to my desktop
[00:41] <Lucho_> yo_rmn pero dónde cambio esas opciones si no encuentro el archivo xorg.conf?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> psyk:  If your on 9.04  and it's working well for you, I would suggest staying with that for now, unless you want slightly prettyer graphics.
[00:41] <mahngiel> mdg: if i ever get into gaming i'll build a new machine
[00:41] <yo_rmn> es un cd?
[00:41] <mahngiel> !es Lucho_
[00:41] <ZaNeIuM> what is samba4 used for?
[00:41] <Lucho_> yo_rmn sí, desde live CD
[00:41] <mcurran> networking
[00:41] <sebsebseb> psyk: also if you upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10,  things may go wrong on you,  things went wrong for quite a lot of people.
[00:41] <yo_rmn> Lucheo meet me at ubuntu-ar our language is not welcome
[00:41] <yo_rmn> hahaha
[00:42] <ZaNeIuM> do i need to install it, if i am using smb shares from my windows system
[00:42] <psyk> sebsebseb: rofl? then i will stay on my 9.01 instead... Thought it was a major upgrade etc.
[00:42] <psyk> sebsebseb: 9.04
[00:42] <mahngiel> if english is spoken, we can assure what advice you get is legitimate
[00:42] <mikejet> How do I turn off tooltips?! I swear, tooltips are the stupidest invention ever. They obscure the exact material you are interested in - where the mouse is.
[00:42] <mdg> anyone here using a Wii nunchuck as a mouse?
[00:43] <mahngiel> haha, that's an idea
[00:43] <mikejet> For example, I want no tooltips when my mouse is over the workspace and trash area.
[00:43] <sebsebseb> psyk: 10.04 is  one you should probably upgrade to though.  or  well  do an Ubuntu clean install for.  since you would have to upgrade through 9.10 first, and  I assume your running 9.04 with Ext3, so no Ext4 or  Grub 2 on upgrade.
[00:43] <psyk> has anyone gotten Ventrilo 3.0.5 to work?
[00:43] <mahngiel> mdg: i haven't been able to get ubuntu to recognize my phone when i plug it in USB-style
[00:43] <jrmorrill> Hello, I am having some trouble getting a few things working with my ubuntu HTPC setup. I have an ASrock ION 330 running ubuntu 9.10. I cant get the sound working over HDMI and I cant get the display showing 1080i resolution (it is currently working with 720p though).
[00:43] <mikejet> What is wrong with people who _do not_ get angry with tooltips?
[00:43] <mdg> mahngiel: what kind of phone?
[00:44] <jrmorrill> Thanks in advance for any help :)
[00:44] <sebsebseb> psyk: end of April the next Long Term Support, 10.04
[00:44] <mahngiel> mdg: samsung trance.
[00:44] <mahngiel> mdg: i have to use windoze media to sync my tunes
[00:44] <psyk> sebsebseb: k, i am running on 9.04 whit Ext3. Well thanks for the info,
[00:45] <mdg> mahngiel: do you have a media card or you just transfer via USB?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> psyk: and don't know if you got a seperate /home, but those can be rather useful, and much easier to set that up on a clean install,  rather than after woulds
[00:45] <yo_rmn> hello plis look, My thunderbird says, wait time for (any server) has run out? something like it in EN
[00:45] <mahngiel> mdg: usb, no card. though i have a sd card slot that is non-responsive too
[00:45] <mdg> mahngiel: nonresponsive - that's not good
[00:46] <mahngiel> psyk: have you checked the appdb on wine?
[00:46] <mahngiel> mdg: probably another prop. driver that i haven't worried about digging into
[00:46] <mdg> mahngiel: I think there is something called bit-pim that lets you access your phone's file system
[00:46] <psyk> sebsebseb: y i have a seperate /home. Mutch easier to do a new install imo aswell.
[00:47] <mahngiel> mdg: where did you find bit-pim?
[00:47] <mdg> mahngiel: synaptic - read about by googling
[00:47] <mdg> mahngiel: I'm waiting for a cable so I can try it ...
[00:47] <psyk> mahngiel: no i havent, sence there is no .exe file for the new Ventrilo i thought it would be a good question to take here.
[00:47] <mahngiel> you know damn it, i've downloaded this Widget Factory twice now, and i dont seem to have the app launcher anywhere
[00:48] <mahngiel> mdg: good to know, i'll keep that in mind. thanks
[00:48] <mahngiel> psyk: got ya :)
[00:49] <psyk> mahngiel: and i am still quite new to  ubuntu/linux overall ;P
[00:49] <mahngiel> any of you used Widget Factory?
[00:49] <mdg> mahngiel: what is it?
[00:49] <mahngiel> psyk: fresher than 3 weeks? lol
[00:49] <ardchoille> mahngiel: I use it quite often
[00:49] <mahngiel> ardchoille: what directory is the app launcher in?
[00:50] <mahngiel> mdg: it's a theme modifier / creator for gtk, the best i understand
[00:50] <ardchoille> mahngiel: run this in a term: which twf
[00:50] <geovani> hola
[00:50] <ardchoille> mahngiel: No, it only shows how themes will look.. it doesn't allow you to change or edit a theme
[00:50] <yo_rmn> Hi geovani
[00:51] <mahngiel> ardchoille: are there any baby-stepping wizards/ creators out there?
[00:51] <Zabbadahu> mazda01: im going to try throwing another HDD in my system see if that will make it work
[00:51] <VCoolio> mikejet: in gconf-editor there is a checkbox for disabling tooltips for the panel in apps > panel > global > tooltips_enabled
[00:51] <ardchoille> mahngiel: I have been searching for years and never found any.
[00:51] <psyk> mahngiel: used it for about 2weeks when 9.04 was new, still running it atm. switched back to winXP sence i had trubble whit Ventrilo then aswell. But i have WinXP and i want to run fully on ubuntu :(
[00:52] <mahngiel> ardcoille: so you just look at the tree and decide what codes you wanna type and throw out? perhaps like a css wizard would be equal??
[00:52] <mdg> Anyone here have trouble accessing data on a micro HDSC media card?
[00:52] <sebsebseb> psyk: repling to eralier, np
[00:52] <mahngiel> psyk: i use xp for all my gaming, so i wouldn't have to worry
[00:53] <ardchoille> mahngiel: a lot depends on which engine you use. Here are some tutorials: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials
[00:53] <mahngiel> psyk: i agree with you, but i don't see gaming being licensed or released for linux
[00:54] <mahngiel> ardchoille: i've been reading much into the pixmap engine, i see alot of themes run off it, it seems very versitile
[00:54] <mahngiel> ardchoille: would just like something to kind of guide me along the way, so i can be fully independent, versus breaking someone else's code open and modifying
[00:54] <CyL> what is the system used by ubuntu 9.10 to encrypt the user's home directory, and how may I be sure it is eneabled?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !games |  psyk  mahngiel
[00:55] <psyk> mahngiel: well i dont ahve any trubble whit my games, WoW, NWN and Fable. the games run nice and smoth. But it is just that damn VVentrilo for my raiding on wow :/
[00:55] <VCoolio> mikejet: that seems not to work due to a bug; in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 put a line "gtk-enable-tooltips=0"
[00:55] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: thx mate
[00:55] <r00tintheb0x> Hi guys (and gals). I have to become certified in either the RHCE or the LPI by the end of the month, which would you say I have a better chance of passing?
[00:55] <ardchoille> mahngiel: The quickest way to make a new theme is to grab a current theme and make modifications
[00:55] <psyk> sebsebseb: ?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> mahngiel: np and quite a lot of good games for Desktop Linux, you just need to know where to get them from
[00:55] <nimrod0> !encryption
[00:56] <mahngiel> ardchoille: yes, as is what i've been doing.
[00:56] <nimrod0> !encrypt
[00:56] <sebsebseb> psyk: just trying to point out that Desktop Linux can also be good for gaming :)
[00:56] <ThePassingShadow> !kryptonite
[00:56] <mahngiel> sebsebseb: and you're right, that's the problem, i haven't known where to look, i've google and bing'd alot
[00:56] <CyL> nimrod0: maybe you could just answer me?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about kryptonite
[00:56] <Michalxo> hello! Help needed.. can ANYONE send me DEFAULT sources.list for karmic, pls?
[00:56] <LjL> ThePassingShadow: the bot is made to be used, not abused :)
[00:57] <mahngiel> ardchoille: the problem is with that, is if the theme i'm looking at doesn't do or have everythign i'd like to do, unless i look at the parent tree and have knowledge of all the widget classes, i'm left to only mod what i see
[00:57] <psyk> sebsebseb: ooh, y i know love to play on linux, the multitasking is so mutch better on this platform :)
[00:57] <mitrovarr> So I'm having kind of a strange issue... I just installed 9.10 on a laptop, and when I use a USB mouse, mouse clicks don't register some of the time.  This also affects the trackpad.  However, if I disconnect the mouse, clicks from the trackpad register normally.
[00:57] <ardchoille> mahngiel: may I pm  you?
[00:57] <mitrovarr> Has anyone seen this before?
[00:57] <nimrod0> CyL, I think this is what you're looking for : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[00:57] <sebsebseb> psyk: love is such a common word for this channel, no wonder the factoid exists
[00:57] <sebsebseb> !love |  psyk
[00:58] <mahngiel> ardchoille: ya
[00:58] <ShawnRisk> I can't connect to my wireless router.  I setup the right settings and still can't seem to see the wireless network in my settings.  Any ideas why?  I am using 9.10
[00:58] <Michalxo> is it possible, that I don't get SW updates for karmic, because of some issue in sources.list??
[00:58] <mahngiel> lspci my friend
[00:59] <CyL> nimrod0: not exactly... it seems ubuntu 9.10 provides a third part app to encrypt user's data... I'd like to know how does it works...
[00:59] <xellink> hiya, where can i get help with cairo dock?
[00:59] <mdg> ShawnRisk: how do you check for the network?
[00:59] <psyk> sebsebseb: haha :D lovelyu aint using vt on ubuntu ?
[00:59] <mitrovarr> the issue with the mouse/trackpad seems to affect certain programs at a time but not others - for example, the top bar of ubuntu won't accept clicks, but say, firefox will.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> psyk: or it's an offtopic factoid that can also be used in here
[01:00] <mattwj2002> hi everyone
[01:00] <mattwj2002> I have a question
[01:01] <ShawnRisk> mdg:  I added the connection to the network connections setting under wireless
[01:01] <psyk> sebsebseb: k
[01:01] <mattwj2002> does anyone know of any blu ray authorizing tools for ubuntu?
[01:01] <sebsebseb> psyk: vt uhmmm remind me what that is
[01:02] <mdg> ShawnRisk: in a terminal try "ifconfig" without the quotes and you should see wlan or wlan0 if that's what you setup
[01:02] <psyk> Does anyone know how to get a shortcut for Ventrilo 3.0.5 in 9.04?
[01:02] <mattwj2002> I want to make a video DVD that plays in a blu ray player
[01:02] <psyk> sebsebseb: Ventrilo
[01:02] <sebsebseb> psyk: for graphics card?  hardware virtaulization?  uhmm?
[01:02] <mattwj2002> this is different than a video DVD
[01:02] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i stop screenlets from disappearing on clicks when they are in the widget layer, using compiz?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> psyk: oh some program?  I don't know what that is
[01:03] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I only see eth0 and lo
[01:03] <mattwj2002> I think it is called a AVCHD
[01:03] <psyk> sebsebseb: www.ventrilo.com
[01:03] <mattwj2002> !avchd
[01:03] <CyL> what is the system used by ubuntu 9.10 to encrypt the user's home directory, and how may I be sure it is eneabled?
[01:03] <mdg> ShawnRisk: that tells us that wlan or wlan0 (wireless) has not been setup properly
[01:03] <psyk> sebsebseb: a program, for mic chatting
[01:03] <Roasted> does anybody use webmin? I'm wondering how webmin handles samba shares. Is webmin basically one big ACL??
[01:03] <mdg> ShawnRisk: what card you using?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> psyk: ok, well  I was only really saying since you seemed to of  put I wasn't using it
[01:03] <Rabbitbu1ny2> Roasted: Terribly, look into ebox.
[01:04] <Roasted> rabbitbulny2 - Ive looked into ebox, but couldnt get it working. Webmin just... magically... worked.
[01:04] <Rabbitbu1ny2> Ro
[01:04] <psyk> sebsebseb: oke oke, having major trubble whit it atm. cant make a shortcut from wine...
[01:04] <sebsebseb> psyk: I don't have  Virtualbox installed right now, but  the stuff for hardware virtulization has names to,  that I can't remember right now, and I was thinking that
[01:04] <Rabbitbu1ny2> Roasted: You're in the same boat I am then. The good software isn't supported and the bad software is.
[01:04] <sebsebseb> psyk: also mirc why?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> psyk: loads of good IRC clients for Desktop GNU/Linux :)
[01:05] <Roasted> rabbitbulny2 - whats so bad about webmin? I was quite pleased with how easy it integrates into linux, and disappointed with how ebox just failed to even function.
[01:05] <lostinspace_46> When attempting to install Pango I get this msg. "configure: error:*** Glib 2.14.0 or better is required" I have glib-2.22.0 installed.  Does this mean I have to make a .pc file for glib-2.22.0 and put it in my pkgconfig file?  And if so, how?
[01:06] <mitrovarr> does anyone know about any changes to mouse / trackpad handling between 9.10 and 8?  I used to have an older version of ubuntu on this computer that didn't have the mouse issue.
[01:06] <sebsebseb> psyk: maybe not as many as I thought actsaully, but  quite a few good ones at least,  Konversation :)  a KDE app,  Xchat,  IRSSI  a command line one, etc
[01:06] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I am not 100% on the name, but it is a DELL laptop
[01:06] <psyk> sebsebseb: i ahvent Virutalbox atm. neatehr.
[01:06] <psyk> sebsebseb: i am using Konversation =)
[01:06] <sebsebseb> psyk: good :)
[01:07] <mdg> ShawnRisk: is it a netbook?  Built-in wifi card?
[01:07] <psyk> sebsebseb: quite new to it aswell =)
[01:07] <psyk> sebsebseb: but will come around to it soon =)
[01:07] <ShawnRisk> mdg: no netbook, but I do believe it is built in
[01:08] <sebsebseb> psyk: ok
[01:08] <sebsebseb> psyk: thanks for your link by the way, but won't go on now
[01:09] <mdg> ShawnRisk: in a terminal, try "lspci" - again without the quotes
[01:10] <dragon> what's the command to find out all the modified config files on the system?
[01:10] <ShawnRisk> mdg: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[01:11] <mdg> ShawnRisk: you said you are running 9.10 or 9.04
[01:11] <helluvaCSmajor> screenlets disappear when i click on one, how do i fix it?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: yes uhmm
[01:11] <ShawnRisk> mdg: 9.10
[01:12] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: there seems to be an issue
[01:12] <mdg> Anyone here setup a Broadcom BCM4311 in 9.10?  Can you help ShawnRisk ?
[01:12] <because> never in 9.10
[01:12] <because> but i got it running on ebain
[01:12] <because> debain
[01:12] <because> use ndiswrapper
[01:12] <mitrovarr> sebsebseb:  So this has been seen before?  Any idea if there's anything I can do about it?
[01:13] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I'll search the ubuntu forums...
[01:13] <vixus> grub seems to be using a menu.lst different to the default but I can't find it anywhere!
[01:13] <ShawnRisk> mdg: looking
[01:13] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: ok just checked with the guy  who  told me about the issue,  last night or whenever it was now, he put this in reply to me:  synaptics regression yeah.. but check the bug tracker it may have been fixed
[01:13] <lostinspace_46> mdg http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885847 great tut
[01:14] <vixus> the menu options in /boot/grub/menu.lst don't match the ones displayed on boot, why is this?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | vixus
[01:14] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: he only knows that it was a problem when 9.10 was initially released
[01:14] <git__> is there a piece of software that would allow you to watch the video while it is being downloaded?
[01:14] <CyL> what is the system used by ubuntu 9.10 to encrypt the user's home directory, and how may I be sure it is eneabled?
[01:15] <git__> vixus, u need to run grub after u edit it
[01:15] <Jordan_U> git__: Pretty much any video player
[01:15] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: by the way the release notes mention common issues, for Ubuntu versions, and sometimes or a lot of the time provide solutions
[01:15] <axisys_> vixus: you sure your os is not reading /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:15] <sebsebseb> !notes | mitrovarr
[01:15] <Jamie_too> git__:no, it's probably grub2. =(
[01:16] <lostinspace_46> When attempting to install Pango I get this msg. "configure: error:*** Glib 2.14.0 or better is required" I have glib-2.22.0 installed.  Does this mean I have to make a .pc file for glib-2.22.0 and put it in my pkgconfig file?  And if so, how?
[01:16] <vixus> ok, I'll look into this
[01:16] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: I guess your issue is mentioned, but I don't want to load up the notes right now
[01:16] <axisys_> vixus: or /etc/default/grub rather
[01:16] <mdg> ShawnRisk: page 21 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713&highlight=BCM4311+in+9.10&page=21
[01:16] <h00k> I am on Ubuntu Netbook Remix and deleted the notification envelope, there doesn't exist an "Add to Panel" option, how would I get I get this back?
[01:16] <vixus> axisys_, There is no /etc/default/grub
[01:16] <mitrovarr> sebsebseb:  Thanks, I'll see if I can find anything there.
[01:16] <vixus> axisys_, nor are there any relevant files in /etc/grub.d
[01:16] <mdg> ShawnRisk: if you can use ethernet to update the machine, the last post on this page should work
[01:17] <ShawnRisk> ok
[01:17] <Jordan_U> vixus: What version of Ubuntu are you using and is it a fresh install or an upgrade from a previous version?
[01:17] <helluvaCSmajor> i found a solution to my problem, but i cannot figure out how to apply this fix, can someone help me with this?
[01:17] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: you can also put 9.04 on, or even another distro, if the issue bothers you a lot in 9.10 and you can't get it fixed
[01:17] <vixus> Jordan_U, jaunty
[01:18] <h00k> I am on Ubuntu Netbook Remix and deleted the notification envelope, there doesn't exist an "Add to Panel" option, how would I get I get this back?
[01:18] <chetnick> switching workspace with a mouse wheel stop working from time to time. Would reloading compiz help? If so, how to do it? Thanks.
[01:18] <vixus> Jordan_U, fresh install.. did it ages ago
[01:18] <mitrovarr> sebsebseb:  I'm not sure, but I think 9.04 might have had it too.  I ran it live a couple of times, and I thought it was laggy at the time... the issue can easily be misinterpreted as lag (since you click and nothing happens, but you might click later and have it work.)
[01:18] <epaphus> Hello, does karmic koala come with pidgin by default? i dont see it...
[01:19] <Jordan_U> vixus: Do you have any other distros installed on the same machine? Can you pastebin your menu.lst and say which entries aren't showing up?
[01:19] <seravitae> hi there i want to do a distribution upgrade from hardy to (as latest as possible), its a command line install, should i just run apt-get update && apt-get install update-manager-core && do-release-upgrade?
[01:19] <vixus> Jordan_U, it's ok, I just needed to run update-grub
[01:19] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: oh I think someone  experienced such an issue on a lap top he returned to the shop soon after,  that he tried 9.04 on hmm
[01:19] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: or 8.10 or whatever hmm
[01:19] <mdg> seravitae: just curious - is this a server?
[01:19] <jrib> seravitae: and have the right repositories enabled, yes
[01:19] <jrib> !upgrade > seravitae
[01:19] <Acegi> Hi is there a program that will show me what is controlling my themes like window, decoration and special effects?
[01:19] <rhorse> seravitae: don'
[01:20] <rhorse> seravitae: don't do it
[01:20] <Acegi> I know I'm using emerald and compiz
[01:20] <seravitae> mdg - yeah, but not using 'server' per se... its just a standard hardy install but no X.
[01:20] <seravitae> ok?
[01:20] <Acegi> But something else is controlling the radio buttons, checkboxes etc
[01:20] <seravitae> ill read that link
[01:20] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: well if your issue is there in previous versions such as 9.04, 8.10, or 8.04, hmm,  maybe it's a general Linux distro issue, or it's not and you don't get the issue in another Linux distro
[01:20] <mdg> seravitae: I'm a bit of a fan of a CLI install - though I don't use it all the time
[01:20] <upp> any one can help me to install the ethernet driver for win2k3 as a gast on qemu, on ubuntu host
[01:21] <seravitae> mm
[01:21] <Acegi> For some reason as soon as ubuntu logs in it uses some strange window manager that changes back to my chosen one when I just open Appearances
[01:21] <sebsebseb> upp: #qemu ?
[01:21] <mitrovarr> sebsebseb:  It's not in 8.10.  That's what I installed over, and it didn't have it.
[01:21] <h00k> I am on Ubuntu Netbook Remix and deleted the notification envelope, there doesn't exist an "Add to Panel" option, how would I get I get this back?
[01:21] <mdg> seravitae: what's your favorite CLI app you can't live without?
[01:21] <ssv1994> Всем привет, есть кто живой
[01:21] <Acegi> So what program is controlling my window appearances?
[01:21] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: 8.10 is a good release, but unfortunatly the support for it is running out, but when it does 10.04 will have been released, which is also the next Long Term Support release
[01:21] <seravitae> mdg - i.. honestly i dont have a favourite CLI program
[01:21] <nickkontos> hello, why don't i have a conections button on my notifications area?
[01:22] <ssv1994> hello
[01:22] <epaphus> Hello, does karmic koala come with pidgin by default? i dont see it...
[01:22] <seravitae> i dont really have a favourite program per say... i like python? :P
[01:22] <upp> sebsebseb: no one is there, every day i'm waiting for anwser but no one alive there :)
[01:22] <Jordan_U> !ru | ssv1994
[01:22] <dakii> what's coming in 10.04?
[01:22] <mdg> seravitae: oh... mine is irssi :)
[01:22] <jrib> !10.04 | dakii
[01:22] <seravitae> heh
[01:22] <mitrovarr> sebsebseb:  I guess I hadn't really anticipated this sort of bug from updating.
[01:22] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: already said this earlier to someone or something rather similar, but i'll do it again,   the ethernet in 8.10 woudn't work on the other computer, but other then that 8.10 has been a good release, but then I wanted Ext4 so bye bye 8.10
[01:23] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: sometimes hardware that worked fine, doesn't work in a later release, take that other computer for example, ethernet no problem in 8.04,  woudn't work in 8.10
[01:24] <Acegi> Anyone?
[01:24] <mdg> ShawnRisk: having any luck?
[01:24] <slayton> does anybody know how to autoidentify in xchat?
[01:24] <sebsebseb> mitrovarr: then hopefuly an even later release fixes the issue,  which happended in this case, since it works fine in 9.04,  not sure about 9.10 though since not tried from Live CD  yet even on there
[01:24] <ShawnRisk> mdg: nope
[01:24] <geitenneuker> hoi
[01:25] <mdg> ShawnRisk: what happened when you went to System>Administration>HardwareDrivers and looked for Broadcom?
[01:25] <epaphus> Anybody know if pidgin was taken off in 9.10 ?
[01:25] <ShawnRisk> mdg: nothing there
[01:25] <lostinspace_46> slackd0Od | register
[01:25] <dox_drum> epaphus, yes
[01:25] <sebsebseb> epaphus: no Pidgin for clean installs of 9.10, but you can still install it
[01:25] <jrib> epaphus: it's in the repositories but no longer installed by default
[01:26] <mitrovarr> ok, trying a fix.  Rebooting!  And thanks for the help
[01:26] <dox_drum> epaphus, you might install it from the repository
[01:26] <epaphus> why was it removed though?
[01:26] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I think you need to find "restricted drivers"... let me read further...
[01:26] <sebsebseb> epaphus: ,beause they think Empathy is better,  plus that's part of Gnome, where as Pidgin is not
[01:26] <epaphus> empathy, cool id have to try it out
[01:27] <lostinspace_46> slackd0Od look in help
[01:27] <lostinspace_46> slackd0Od> it will tell you how
[01:27] <ShawnRisk> mdg:	ok
[01:27] <sebsebseb> epaphus: Fedora and Mandriva for example, have also replaced Pidgin with Empathy
[01:29] <h00k> do you happen to know the name of the executable for indicator-applet so that I can re-add it to my panel on Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[01:29] <mrbook2> kl
[01:29] <sebsebseb> h00k: you mean the thing on the top right with your name?
[01:29] <IdleOne> !crossposting | h00k
[01:30] <sebsebseb> h00k: that does IM status and shut down and such as well?
[01:30] <h00k> sebsebseb: no, the "envelope" icon
[01:30] <vixus> Ok, I take it back, grub is still misbehaving. I customised the menu myself when I first installed jaunty but now can't find where those menu entries are stored
[01:30] <sebsebseb> vixus: your still on jauntey yes?
[01:30] <vixus> yep
[01:31] <sebsebseb> vixus: try this:  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:31] <vixus> uh, yeah.. that's pretty obvious :)
[01:31] <sebsebseb> vixus: well done it?
[01:32] <Jaden007mi5> Hey. I installed 9.10 and i have no sound
[01:32] <vixus> sebsebseb, yep
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Jaden007mi5: clean install or upgrade?
[01:32] <Jaden007mi5> Clean install
[01:32] <sebsebseb> vixus: ok so got the enteries you wanted yes?
[01:32] <Jaden007mi5> i had sound on 8.10
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Jaden007mi5: ok
[01:32] <geitenneuker> is there a halal version of ubuntu?
[01:32] <Jaden007mi5> and no sound on 9.04 or currently on 9.10
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Jaden007mi5: oh not on 9.04 either hmm
[01:32] <vixus> sebsebseb, Nope.. these entries don't match the ones shown on boot
[01:33] <jongbergs> !sound | Jaden007mi5
[01:33] <Jaden007mi5> im on 64 bit laptop if that helps
[01:33] <vixus> sebsebseb, all i wanted to do was update the kernel version being booted
[01:33] <sebsebseb> vixus: you can add those in yourself
[01:33] <mdg> ShawnRisk: do you know if your card showed rev1 or rev2?  Try lspci again if you need to.
[01:33] <sebsebseb> vixus: and remove just the entry for old kernels,  or  the kernel it self from Synaptic for example
[01:33] <vixus> sebsebseb, what do I do next?
[01:33] <geitenneuker> i use the lunatic lynx kernel
[01:34] <sebsebseb> geitenneuker: what?
[01:34] <ShawnRisk> mdg:	 one sec, going to try, just restarted after installing a package
[01:34] <sebsebseb> geitenneuker: oh lucid?
[01:34] <geitenneuker> yeah ludicrous lemon or something
[01:34] <meatcar> How would i go around making a padding around windows so that when they maximize/ tile they leave x pixels of space between each other?
[01:34] <IdleOne> !troll | geitenneuker
[01:34] <geitenneuker> yeah 2.6.32
[01:34] <ZaNeIuM> why is ubuntu (system 01) so slow when copying over files from my other windows folders, i i get only 3MB/s. but when i boot system 01 with windows i get a much fater transfer at 11MB/s .
[01:34] <vixus> sebsebseb, once the file is the way i want, what do I do?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: I think them just trying to have a bit of fun here,  but  most lucid stuff is off topic for in here at the moment
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !lucid |  geitenneuker
[01:35] <Out_Cold> so what the heck am i missing?? I have VNC client/servers installed and running but I can't get any display.. here's some tries http://pastebin.com/m79cd127e
[01:35] <geitenneuker> yeah i know
[01:35] <geitenneuker> i said i installed just the kernel not the OS
[01:36] <vixus> sebsebseb, update-grub doesn't seem to have any affect
[01:36] <ShawnRisk> mdg: rev 01
[01:36] <sebsebseb> geitenneuker: installing the lucid kernel into 9.10 is probably not really a good idea
[01:36] <RetianFes> Could anybody tell me how to install Mono? I've been trying to install it so that I can install KeePass, but everytime I try I seem to fail. http://keepass.info/help/v2/setup.html#mono
[01:36] <geitenneuker> yeah, but it works
[01:36] <sebsebseb> vixus: when installing a new kernel it should add to menu.lst, but that does not always happen
[01:36] <chetnick> anybody knows any place to get sound themes, and how to change them?
[01:36] <mdg> ShawnRisk: any luck after installing the package you installed?
[01:36] <geitenneuker> those small changes on the kernel aren't that hard to manage
[01:37] <ZaNeIuM> any other channels that support ubuntu, please.
[01:37] <sumodumo> anybody have a cool black theme
[01:37] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I do get the Broadcom B43 wireless driver to show up now but I am getting an error when I try to activate the driver.  SystemError: installArchives() failed
[01:37] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: many
[01:37] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: where are you from?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: there will be a local channel for your area
[01:37] <sebsebseb> probably
[01:37] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I've not seen that error before...
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !themes |  sumodumo
[01:38] <chetnick> ZaNeIuM: unfortunately this is the only one... if you find somewhere else please, do let me know. Not much help here.
[01:38] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, what are you looking for?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> chetnick: this is not the only one
[01:38] <vixus> sebsebseb, oh jeez it was on another partition
[01:38] <mdg> ShawnRisk: what procedure you using to activate the driver?
[01:38] <vixus> sebsebseb, surprised grub isn't confused by two menu.lst files
[01:39] <sebsebseb> vixus: ah yes, I done something a bit like that before myself, or well like that before even
[01:39] <sebsebseb> vixus: yes I have  had two menu.lsts
[01:39] <chetnick> ZaNeIuM: meant to se only one i know.
[01:39] <sumodumo> hmmmm for some reason i cant set my visual effects to normal or extra.
[01:39] <vixus> alright, disaster averted then
[01:39] <sumodumo> how do u open up compiz
[01:39] <sebsebseb> vixus: and then it kept on updating the one I didn't want it to with the new kernel entrys, but  this was like three or so  years ago now
[01:40] <ShawnRisk> mdg: all I did was go to the ubuntu cd, install the package, and try to use the hardware drivers under system >> administration.  Afterwards I just hit activate on the driver
[01:40] <Tripados> hello all
[01:40] <sebsebseb> vixus: manualley having to edit the correct menu.lst for the newer kernel, I didn't like having to do that
[01:40] <johnson_b> rom10: you get it working had to leave
[01:40] <mdg> ShawnRisk: is the computer you are using now the one you are trying to get wifi working on?
[01:40] <Jaden007mi5> thats stuff didnt work
[01:40] <vixus> anyone know the command line name for the software update app?
[01:40] <rhorse> !hello | Tripados
[01:41] <imatech> :'(I just can not get this RDP session to work!
[01:41] <vixus> sebsebseb, yeah, it's annoying but i had my menu.lst set up exactly how i like
[01:41] <imatech> !rdp
[01:41] <Out_Cold> vixus, it's sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:41] <ShawnRisk> mdg: nope it is another computer
[01:41] <mdg> vixus: you meant aptitude? or apt-get update?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> vixus: well if you clean install 9.10 or later, you will have Grub 2 instead by default, and your changes will be gone
[01:41] <Tripados> sudo apt-get update
[01:41] <IdleOne> vixus: update-manager  is the gui app
[01:41] <vixus> yeah that's the one
[01:41] <vixus> cheers
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vixus: or later hmm well 10.04 isn't out yet,  and I guess eventaully there will  Grub 3 for example
[01:42] <mdg> ShawnRisk: try another reboot - let it sit off for a good 60 seconds
[01:42] <vixus> probably won't update til at least 10.03.. got my system set up nicely
[01:42] <vixus> * 10.something
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vixus: 10.04 you mean
[01:42] <vixus> yeah
[01:42] <Jaden007mi5> i still dont have sound
[01:42] <vixus> alright, thanks guys. ciao
[01:43] <sebsebseb> vixus: well good idea to do a clean install rather than upgrading through 9.10, since (uh I put stuff like this earlier)  that upgrade might go wrong
[01:43] <sebsebseb> and... and he is gone oh well
[01:43] <Out_Cold> anyone know what i'm missing in this vnc attempt? http://pastebin.com/m79cd127e
[01:43] <ShawnRisk> mdg: okayt
[01:44] <assoguerozen_sx> guys ubuntu isnt planning to build i686 packages?
[01:44] <sebsebseb> assoguerozen_sx: that's 32bit
[01:45] <sebsebseb> assoguerozen_sx: Ubuntu has  32bit and 64bit versions
[01:45] <assoguerozen_sx> 2009 and developers making i386 packages lol
[01:45] <sebsebseb> ash-2plus1: many computers that are still used today are 32bit
[01:46] <assoguerozen_sx> sebsebseb yea but most distros building i686 packages
[01:46] <sebsebseb> ash-2plus1: wrong one
[01:46] <geitenneuker> assoguerozen_sx: yeah because it has to be compatible with an 386sx 16
[01:46] <assoguerozen_sx> lol
[01:46] <assoguerozen_sx> pretty sux =/
[01:46] <sebsebseb> assoguerozen_sx: what?
[01:47] <assoguerozen_sx> but in really truth i see no big difference between ubuntu and other distros with i686 packages
[01:47] <sebsebseb> in truth I have seen no difference  between  32bit  and 64bit Ubuntu, for what I was useing for
[01:47] <assoguerozen_sx> yeah same
[01:48] <agorist> Question for anyone: where do I find program files for stuff like Nautilus? (I'm really new to linux)
[01:48] <sebsebseb> except for  where the system says  it's  32bit or 64bit of course
[01:48] <assoguerozen_sx> i just had to change kernel for PAE, cuz i got 4gb ram
[01:48] <geitenneuker> sebsebseb: install 32gb ram and you see
[01:48] <sebsebseb> for example
[01:48] <reborn3> q
[01:48] <sebsebseb> ganjanaut: hardly anyone has 32gb RAM
[01:48] <geitenneuker> lol
[01:48] <sebsebseb> ganjanaut: stupid auto complete
[01:48] <assoguerozen_sx> PAE didnt get this amount of ram?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> doing auto complete is a bit pointless right now
[01:48] <sebsebseb> the channel isn't  that busy
[01:49] <geitenneuker> i got two machines with 48gb, here, because ram is sodamn cheap
[01:49] <ThePassingShadow> Hey, is there a way to merge unallocated space into another partition ?
[01:49] <ganjanaut> sebsebseb: s'alright
[01:49] <nawaflol> Have Anyone been using 3dDesk lately ???
[01:49] <sebsebseb> geitenneuker: well that's probably way more than you need
[01:49] <geitenneuker> sebsebseb: no i do some video editing
[01:49] <assoguerozen_sx> geitenneuker what mobo to support all that ram?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> !ot |  For the RAM and 32bit and 64bit  chat  assoguerozen_sx  and geitenneuker  ,but I won't be joining there
[01:50] <mikejet> geitenneuker, 8" floppy drives are cheap too. you should get a bunch of those too.
[01:50] <geitenneuker> supermicro
[01:50] <nawaflol> wait 48G thats got to be 64 bit
[01:50] <nawaflol> 32 Bit can't handle it !
[01:50] <sebsebseb> hmm if I had put  ,but sebsebseb won't be joining there,  that would have been better for when the bot put it
[01:51] <geitenneuker> x8dah thats what i use
[01:51] <assoguerozen_sx> kernel pae can get 64gb ram
[01:51] <remote> is there an ubuntu channel for powerpc ?
[01:51] <mdg> hi remote !  I have a G4 iMac running 8.04
[01:51] <mrbook2> I there anyone who can help a newbie get his integrated webcam working. I  am using WindowsXP  as a host running Virtualbox. When i run Cheese I only get a test pattern
[01:52] <sebsebseb> bot thing didn't quite make sense actsauly,  except for the part about you two geitenneuker  assoguerozen_sx  being off topic :)
[01:52] <sebsebseb> remote: no don't think so
[01:52] <assoguerozen_sx> lol sry
[01:52] <geitenneuker> pae succks because you can only use 3gb large segments
[01:52] <assoguerozen_sx> dont be mad
[01:52] <ard1an> Why do peopel say *nix for Unix ?
[01:52] <emanux> brasero always default to burn .iso image?
[01:52] <geitenneuker> its like EMM386 with its 64KB wide segments
[01:52] <sebsebseb> remote: also  installing Ubuntu on a Mac is uhmm a bit uhmm since  as far as I know it's not offically supported
[01:52] <sebsebseb> remote: oh on PPC
[01:52] <mdg> ShawnRisk: any luck?
[01:52] <emanux> can't choose dvd burner device?
[01:52] <agorist> Where should I put non-repo apps when installing? Foxit Reader is a standalone app, I could put it anywhere...where should I put it?
[01:52] <remote> yes PPC
[01:52] <geitenneuker> slowing down any machine
[01:53] <remote> it's community supported
[01:53] <sebsebseb> remote: the desktop version  for example would work on Intel Mac
[01:53] <assoguerozen_sx> geitenneuker nice mobo, must do a good job
[01:53] <remote> sebsebseb: i said powerpc
[01:53] <sebsebseb> remote: plus  Yellow Dog Linux is meant to be a good one to have on a Mac
[01:53] <remote> i want to installl ubuntu 9.10 on iMac G5 will it work?
[01:53] <evo190> what's the trick to getting a logitech orbit web cam operational in 9.04?
[01:53] <pol-ar> does anybody here use gambas?
[01:53] <geitenneuker> assoguerozen_sx:; No i m in switzerland, we get paybacks of 6000 dollars standard
[01:53] <sebsebseb> remote: should do, but I don't know the details
[01:53] <ShawnRisk> mdg:  trying to update drivers from wired and than going to try again wireless
[01:54] <mdg> remote: it should.  Have you checked the powerpc forum section at ubuntuforums.org?
[01:54] <geitenneuker> paychecks of 6000 bucks is standard
[01:54] <idyllic> [Kubuntu][Karmic9.10][KDE4.3.3] Hi, how do I change authentication for a network printer? There is no option to change in Printing module.
[01:54] <mdg> ShawnRisk: sounds like a good plan
[01:54] <remote> mdg: i'll do that
[01:54] <assoguerozen_sx> geitenneuker damn
[01:54] <sebsebseb> idyllic: try #kubuntu
[01:54] <ThePassingShadow> Hey, is there a way to merge unallocated space into another partition ?
[01:54] <pol-ar> does anybody know a channel strictly dedicated to programming for linux?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: no, but there's #programming
[01:55] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: you mean resize?
[01:55] <ThePassingShadow> I guess
[01:55] <pol-ar> sebsebseb: thanks!
[01:55] <geitenneuker> im working in a Dog-Meat Buchery
[01:55] <ThePassingShadow> I'll screenshot
[01:55] <decora> ThePassingShadow: you could backup your filesystem to another drive, and use gparted to shrink/grow partitions
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: or  I guess it's two of these #
[01:55] <pol-ar> sebsebseb: why 2?
[01:55] <ak5> how do I compare xft fonts?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: ## I think
[01:55] <ak5> easily, that is
[01:55] <pol-ar> sebsebseb: you're right, but why?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: I been there before,  two means like unoffical
[01:55] <XTC> how to setup time on terminal?
[01:56] <agorist> Where do you install/put stand alone apps? Do you make a .file for them?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: and one means offical
[01:56] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: basicalley
[01:56] <pol-ar> sebsebseb: ok. got it.
[01:56] <remote> mdg: direct link?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: on this network
[01:56] <geitenneuker> we produce some dogsteaks, and stuff
[01:56] <remote> i can't find anything when searching for "powerpc" nor "ppc"
[01:56] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: theres a channel naming link on the Freenode site
[01:56] <Out_Cold> anyone here set up their vnc properly?
[01:56] <ctmjr> !ot | geitenneuker
[01:56] <dakii1> Is there a command that can get me KDE but not have the programs clutter up my gnome enviroment?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: link uh webpage
[01:56] <lstarnes> pol-ar, sebsebseb: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming ?
[01:57] <pol-ar> sebsebseb: ooooooh...kaay........ thanks a mil, buddy
[01:57] <assoguerozen_sx> well some ubuntu question then... if i change my /etc/init.d/rc currency 'none' to 'shell', wicd call me to get user password all time i boot pc
[01:57] <decora> ubuntu hasnt supported ppc since many years ago
[01:57] <ak5> does a program exit to easily compare xft fonts?
[01:57] <assoguerozen_sx> u guys know why this?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> pol-ar: ok np
[01:57] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: I guess so?
[01:57] <epinky> Out_Cold: use xvnc4viewer
[01:57] <rhorse> agorist: is it a single exec file or what?
[01:57] <geitenneuker> ctmjr: we export to China, and a small amount goes to switzerland - Swiss Quality rules,
[01:58] <ardchoille> geitenneuker: Please take that to another channel
[01:58] <dakii1> Last time I installed KDE I had to reinstall because it was cluttering up my app menu.
[01:58] <geitenneuker> my favorite dog is the doberman
[01:58] <XTC> how to setup time on terminal?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !ops |  geitenneuker ignoring peoples off topic warnings, now trolling
[01:58] <ardchoille> !ops | geitenneuker
[01:58] <mdg> remote: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[01:58] <lstarnes> XTC: man date
[01:59] <mdg> remote: first post under "Normal Threads" looks like it might interest you.
[01:59] <geitenneuker> whats that ?
[01:59] <dakii1> Is there a command that can get me KDE but not have the programs clutter up my gnome enviroment? Last time I installed KDE I had to reinstall because it was cluttering up my app menu.
[01:59] <agorist> rhorse - yes. Foxit Reader installs to just an executable & i noticed a .foxit dir in my home dir with a config file. Should I put the executable file in the .foxit dir??
[01:59] <Pici> geitenneuker: Please stay on topic here, this is a channel for Ubuntu suppor only. Use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[01:59] <lstarnes> dakii1: I don't think so
[01:59] <ak5> anyone know of a sweet way to compare xft fonts?
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Where's the bot?
[01:59] <geitenneuker> ok pigi
[01:59] <meatcar> Would anybody know how I can pad a window with some space, so it wouldn't maximize/tile fully? Can I incorporate it into a theme?
[02:00] <lstarnes> dakii1: when purging individual applications, they should be removed along with their menu entries
[02:00] <BLACKPLAGUE> hello all.  new to ubuntu. hope i like it.
[02:00] <geitenneuker> pici: are you the master of this channel?
[02:00] <IdleOne> !welcome | BLACKPLAGUE
[02:00] <lstarnes> geitenneuker: I believe he is an operator
[02:00] <BLACKPLAGUE> ty
[02:00] <davidpramana> welcome
[02:00] <rhorse> agorist: no, put it in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin -- it will find the config by itself
[02:00] <mdg> BLACKPLAGUE: welcome to Ubuntu!
[02:00] <geitenneuker> lstarnes: ok sir
[02:00] <BLACKPLAGUE> ty all
[02:00] <Pici> geitenneuker: It doesn't matter if I am or not, you are not on-topic here.
[02:01] <epinky> !ping
[02:01] <IdleOne> hehe bot lag
[02:01] <remote> mdg: thanks
[02:01] <dakii1> No I just want the apps to be separate Istames. Not to have them uninstalled
[02:01] <rhorse> agorist: but make sure you chmod +x it so it will run!
[02:01] <BLACKPLAGUE> ty
[02:01] <lstarnes> dakii1: I know
[02:01] <ak5> anyone know of a sweet way to compare xft fonts?
[02:01] <geitenneuker> ubouttu: did i do that?
[02:01] <BobPenguin> hey there. I've been having problems with uploading files to the internet for months now on my ubuntu studio 9.04. Can't upload to youtube or flickr. Strangely enough I an upload to Vimeo useing the desktop uploader. I also hacve problems on uploading using a windowze virtual machine. Any hints on how to solve this?
[02:01] <lstarnes> dakii1: but I do not think that you are trying to do can be done
[02:01] <mdg> remote: your welcome!  Good luck!
[02:01] <dakii1> maybe If I had one account for KDE and one for Gnome
[02:01] <Black_Phantom> BobPenguin, what browser are you using ?
[02:01] <lstarnes> dakii1: that probably wouldn't do it either
[02:01] <IdleOne> !purekde | dakii1
[02:02] <ctmjr> bot must have been sleeping
[02:02] <BobPenguin> Black_Phantom, I get this problems in all browsers. Firefox, chrome, internet explorer (on the windoze vm)
[02:02] <frank1_> any ideas as to why my computers memory is being used up?
[02:02] <assoguerozen_sx> guys if i change my /etc/init.d/rc currency 'none' to 'shell', wicd ask me to put user password all time i boot pc
[02:02] <rhorse> ak5: xlsfonts?
[02:02] <Rajasun> dakii1: you can always goto Preferences -> Main Menu and uncheck any menu entries including those for KDE. So no worries there about cluttering even if you are to install the full KDE desktop.
[02:02] <ak5> frank1_: aliens
[02:03] <ak5> rhorse: thx
[02:03] <frank1_> aliens suck
[02:03] <rhorse> ak5: xfontsel, I mean
[02:03] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: Sorry for late reply, but htp://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot-4.png
[02:03] <dakii1> Oh Thanks Rajasun
[02:03] <Pmax> hi at all
[02:03] <Rajasun> dakii1: np
[02:03] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: bot lag hmm
[02:03] <frank1_> 2.3 of my 3.3 gigs of memory are being used and my comp is laggy
[02:03] <ZaNeIuM> Out_Cold: why is ubuntu (system 01) so slow when copying over files from my other windows folders, i i get only 3MB/s. but when i boot system 01 with windows i get a much fater transfer at 11MB/s .
[02:03] <BobPenguin> Black_Phantom: even the desktop uploader for windozw fails on my virtual windowe
[02:03] <ak5> rhorse: that supports xft fonts? The program is butt ugly - they must have made newer
[02:03] <Sydero> Does anyone know how to change the name for the root account?
[02:03] <surge> is there anyway to force the installer for the ati drivers? I am trying to install the ATI proprietary drivers for my X1300 mobile graphics card and I can't get them installed in Karmic as it says its not supported
[02:04] <Out_Cold> epinky, http://pastebin.com/m2ee56ea0
[02:04] <ak5> Sydero: why?
[02:04] <lstarnes> Sydero: I don't think that can be done, at least not safely
[02:04] <surge> right now firefox crashes when I fullscreen youtube
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> BobPenguin, thats really odd, maybe upgrading to 9.10 might fix the problem ;/ I think its a bug
[02:04] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: she gets tired also
[02:04] <rhorse> ak5: I dunno, it's what I use. I'm sure there's something more uptodate out there
[02:04] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, not so sure, I don't use windows machines
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> BobPenguin, did you mess with some conf. did work before ?
[02:04] <ak5> rhorse: ok, thx
[02:04] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: you wanting to grow sda5?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !gender | IdleOne
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> did it* work before
[02:05] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: that is why I said she
[02:05] <IdleOne> :)
[02:05] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: I'd like to grow sda4 or sda2
[02:05] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: :)
[02:05] <frank1_> is it safe to shut down all the sleeping processes in my system monitor???
[02:05] <BobPenguin> I don't think I mess with confing Black_phantom, but it could be. Would hte upgrade fix it? Should I do a clean install?
[02:05] <ThePassingShadow> Whichever is possible
[02:05] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: and that's why I did that
[02:05] <epinky> Out_Cold: ok, now "tsclient"  and adjust according to your needs
[02:05] <mdg> sda4 is swap
[02:06] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: the factoid
[02:06] <agorist> rhorse - thanks.
[02:06] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: hehe I see
[02:06] <mdg> sda2 is windows?
[02:06] <Black_Phantom> BobPenguin, hmmm upgrading might work well too, yes if it was a real bug it would be fixed by now i guess
[02:06] <ak5> is there something newer and less ocular-cancer-invoking than xfontsel?
[02:06] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: Yeah
[02:06] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: dual booting?
[02:06] <ThePassingShadow> Yeah
[02:07] <rhorse> agorist: how is it better than the native viewer in U?
[02:07] <ThePassingShadow> I installed kubuntu and it got messed up and wouldn't use GNOME
[02:07] <ThePassingShadow> I installed Ubuntu
[02:07] <BobPenguin> Thanks a lot Black_Phantom. I will try the upgrade right after I make some backups. Thanks a lot for the advice!
[02:07] <ThePassingShadow> And then deleted the Kubuntu partition
[02:07] <ThePassingShadow> But then it was unallocated
[02:07] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: I don't have experience with resizing windows  - but I would definitely do a backup before you try anything.
[02:07] <emanux> i can't choose disc when burning using brasero
[02:07] <emanux> what could go wrong?
[02:07] <Burmand> hello everyone
[02:08] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: I don't know what to try, even if I do
[02:08] <Black_Phantom> BobPenguin, np man :)
[02:08] <Pmax> i've a problem with wifi signal. How i can improve it? On XP it's excellent but with jaunty it is not and i can't connect to internet. I've a netgear wg3111v3 usb wireless pen
[02:08] <sebsebseb> ThePassingShadow:  mdg     Ubuntu is the base basically, and you can have  Gnome,  KDE, and XFCE and so on, all in the same install,  one will be the default that can be changed,  but you log in to them from the log in screen
[02:08] <sebsebseb> ThePassingShadow: Ubuntu/Gnome   Kubuntu/KDE   XFCE/Xubuntu
[02:08] <sebsebseb> mdg: ^^^^^^
[02:08] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: you would want to boot from a live CD to try the resizing - you don't want file systems mounted when you do that
[02:09] <Burmand> somebody knows how to connect a nokia N85 with cable and connect to the internet?
[02:09] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: Oh, okay
[02:09] <ThePassingShadow> I should use a Live CD ?
[02:09] <decora> ThePassingShadow: BACK your shit up
[02:09] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: yes use a live cd - the program Gparted
[02:10] <decora> ThePassingShadow: if you lose power during a resize you are completely fucked
[02:10] <ZaNeIuM> Out_Cold: then you should have an idea what i could do to speed up my nic
[02:10] <Pici> decora: Please mind your language here
[02:10] <rhorse> agorist: how is foxit better than the Ubuntu reader?
[02:10] <floppyears> when I type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source
[02:10] <ThePassingShadow> I have Gparted
[02:10] <floppyears> it doesn't bring up the dialog to reconfigure the package any ideas on how to get it to bring up the dialog?
[02:10] <mdg> decora: that's a hard lesson to learn aint it
[02:10] <ThePassingShadow> Trust me, I know I should back up my stuff
[02:10] <epinky> Burmand: not very sure, but you can use Minicom or Kermit on /dev/ttyACM0 or something like that
[02:11] <Sean> brookberry12
[02:11] <ThePassingShadow> I just need to know steps
[02:11] <decora> mdg: especially when its someone else who is paying you to fix their system
[02:11] <hal> hello from texas
[02:11] <Timbauns> hello I have linux 6.1 how can I watch dvds?
[02:11] <perscitus> Why is ubuntu servers down?
[02:11] <Burmand> Thanks epinky i try that
[02:11] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: is windows your default boot - first boot option?
[02:11] <errr-or> hi, anyone could tell what to do to get synchronization for evolution with synce and multisync to work?
[02:11] <ThePassingShadow> First boot is Ubuntu
[02:11] <mdg> decora: ouch!
[02:11] <agorist> rhorse - great question. I don't know, All I know is that ubuntu's default reader kept crashing on me. Literally every 10-20 minutes it would just crash
[02:11] <ThePassingShadow> I installed Windows first
[02:11] <Guest34164> anyone know how to download some form of msn onto ubuntu?
[02:11] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, i am just learning like yourself. what I can share with others, and they do the same
[02:11] <ThePassingShadow> But in GRUB, Ubuntu is default
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: yes
[02:11] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, be more specific what distro are you using, and you can watch DVDs by using VLC software
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Guest34164:  there are quite a few in fact
[02:12] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: is that the way you want it?
[02:12] <Roasted> Hey guys - I can't crack what's wrong here. I have 2 groups, both identical. One restricts users as necessary, the other does not. The GID that gets assigned to the one gruop is 1005, and 1007 for the other. The one with 1005 as the GID is the oen that doesn't work. Something is wrong with it, I have no idea how to troubleshoot it or reset it or anything. What can I do?
[02:12] <ThePassingShadow> I'm fine with that
[02:12] <rhorse> !libdvdcss | Timbauns
[02:12] <perscitus> ThePassingShadow.->  what you trying to do?
[02:12] <ThePassingShadow> I just want that space allocated somewhere else
[02:12] <sebsebseb> !pm > Guest34164
[02:12] <ZaNeIuM> Out_Cold: so this is your 1st computer ever?!
[02:12] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: I installed the dvd player mplayer but cannot find its icon
[02:12] <ThePassingShadow> Like, either in Ubuntu or in Windows
[02:12] <ThePassingShadow> And not being wasted
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: no need to pm for the MSN stuff
[02:12] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: it should be doo-able
[02:12] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, what distro are you using ?
[02:12] <decora> Roasted try making a new group and put everyone in it
[02:13] <Timbauns> as i said 6.1
[02:13] <Pmax> hi guys..can you help me?
[02:13] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: How do I do it ?
[02:13] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, Ubuntu ?
[02:13] <rhorse> agorist: ok, one more Q: what version of Ubuntu?
[02:13] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: excuse me?
[02:13] <epinky> !ask | Pmax
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !msn | Guest34164
[02:13] <hal> whats up pmax?
[02:13] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, is it Ubuntu Linux ?
[02:13] <Roasted> decora - I did, and that works fine and that's all well and good. BUT any group that grabs GID of 1005 is problematic and I don't know why.
[02:13] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: no linux
[02:13] <decora> Pmax: yes, i can sense a correct answer coming in from Zorgon, my partner on Algos 7
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: hmm well yes there's,  Pidgin, Empathy, and Kopete for multi protocall
[02:14] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, don't assume that because I don't know much about file transfers between different computers makes this my very 1st computer
[02:14] <Pmax> ah...ok...the question is: i've a problem with wifi signal. How i can improve it? On XP it's excellent but with jaunty it is not and i can't connect to internet. I've a netgear wg3111v3 usb wireless pen
[02:14] <decora> Roasted: whhy are your groups 'grabbing' 1005, tell them to stop
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: if you want just MSN though,  reply to me here, and I'll say
[02:14] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, LinuxMint ?
[02:14] <Roasted> decora - just because 1005 would be the next available GID in line to grab. I know I can change them, BUT STILL, I dont know why 1005 is being problematic. I want to fix it.
[02:14] <decora> Pmax: do you get any signal at all?
[02:14] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, there is no such thing as linux alone, there are distrubtions
[02:14] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: What do you mean? I just want to watch a dvd!
[02:15] <Pmax> yes
[02:15] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: u r kidding me? I am no noob, I know the os linux
[02:15] <decora> Roasted: you could run 'strace -f 2>&1 ' and use grep
[02:15] <mdg> ThePassingShadow: after you back up your stuff, boot from the live cd and find the app "Gparted" - just like the screen shot.  Then click on the partition you want to work with and you should be able to drap the partition larger or smaller  - it may take some time - usually does.  Once everything looks the way you want, tell gparted to execute the reszining, etc.
[02:15] <Roasted> decora - what do you mean, and use grep?
[02:15] <decora> Pmax: are you sure your linux box even ses your usb dongle? does it show up in lsusb
[02:15] <GamerKnight> Hello people
[02:15] <gagita> my karmic doesn't detect sound hardware in compaq nc6230
[02:16] <Black_Phantom> Timbauns, am not kidding you :) I just want to know whether I would give you the yum command or the apt command to install VLC so that you can watch DVDs
[02:16] <Spoofie> ␇
[02:16] <Pmax> yes..the signal is poor on jaunty
[02:16] <decora> Roasted: grep for calls to open() and stuff that should fail with permission problems. run it on your 1007 people then on your 1005 people, compare results
[02:16] <ThePassingShadow> mdg: Thanks !
[02:16] <ThePassingShadow> I'll do that
[02:16] <Spoofie> ␇
[02:16] <ThePassingShadow> I'll get back on IRC if I have any more issues
[02:16] <gagita> nybody can help me please ??
[02:16] <Timbauns> Black_Phantom: I clicked on mplayer for dvds
[02:16] <rhorse> Pmax: are you on the puter now?
[02:16] <Pmax> i can navigate but it disconnect many times
[02:16] <GamerKnight> gagita: whats the problem?
[02:16] <Iowan> !hello |<GamerKnight:
[02:16] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: your in luck,  here's the info anyway.   AMSN,  and Kmess, and emescene (if I spelt that correctly)  all of which you can get from the repo.  There's also Mercury Messenger a closed source java app a bit buggy I guess really,  that can support most of the Live Messenger features and some of it's own stuff.  Plus there's a way to get a slightly older verison of Live Messenger working in Wine.
[02:16] <ShawnRisk> mdg: nothing is working.  I was able to go into monitor mode and that worked to show me the wireless networks.  I was able to not connect to any of them.  Next what happened was I created a new wireless network and that worked but there was no signal.
[02:16] <Roasted> decora - Im sorry, but what command am I fully running then?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Black_Phantom: It's usually safe to assume people in #ubuntu are using ubuntu :)
[02:16] <IdleOne> Black_Phantom: I think it is safe to assume apt commands is what you should give out in this channel
[02:17] <GamerKnight> Iowan: hey dude, whats new?
[02:17] <Timbauns> then I downloaded terminator salvation and now I cannot find mplayer icon
[02:17] <Guest34164> thanks.
[02:17] <Pmax> what's puter?
[02:17] <Rajasun> Timbauns: you can watch your dvd after you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and of course a media player e.g. vlc, smplayer, totem
[02:17] <agorist> rhorse - version 9.10. However, due to this, and some other issues, I'm now running 9.04 in the form of Mint (Please don't berate me)
[02:17] <gagita> GamerKnight: I dont see any hardware in my sound preference
[02:17] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: start the terminal and just type mplayer and press enter
[02:17] <Black_Phantom> Jordan_U, IdleOne ; ok thanks :)
[02:17] <decora> Roasted: what command are you wanting to fail with permissions blocking it?
[02:17] <Timbauns> GamerKnight: temrinal is anothe rdvd app?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: only one guy makes Mercury Messenger
[02:17] <mdg> ShawnRisk: hmmm....
[02:17] <Timbauns> they told me to use mplayer for dvd
[02:17] <Timbauns> not temrinal
[02:18] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: what version of ubuntu are you using, and no terminal is the command prompt like cmd.exe in windows
[02:18] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I restarted and can see wireless networks now.  I am going to try and connect to one of them
[02:18] <Timbauns> windows is for noobs
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Guest34164: np, but don't just go in to pm with people your wanting help from, many will find it annoying
[02:18] <Roasted> decora - the group in question is "samba". It's a samba group I created. "samba" is the group assigned to /media/storage, which is my network drive. There's a user I do NOT want in Samba, so that way he has no access. But he has access. And hes' not in the group and the permissions on the directory are 770.
[02:18] <Timbauns> I use linux
[02:18] <mdg> ShawnRisk: what kind of encription?
[02:18] <rhorse> agorist: ya, 9.10 is still kinda rough. I run 8.04/Mint Elyssa, cuz it's so stable.
[02:18] <roooooot> I just lost the game.
[02:18] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: Terminal = CLI = Command Line Interface = no graphics just text
[02:18] <emanux> hello, i cant burn using brasero
[02:18] <Odd13> OMG i lost the game too
[02:18] <roooooot> Odd13: you're welcome
[02:18] <Rajasun> Timbauns: No. Terminal ala GNOME tErminal is the command prompt equivalent in Linux & other *Nixes.
[02:18] <epinky> Timbauns: vlc player will work most of the time
[02:18] <roooooot> haha
[02:18] <Odd13> hate you
[02:18] <mdg> ShawnRisk: if you type "sudo iwlist scan" in a terminal it will also show your network, signal strength and type of encryption
[02:19] <Roasted> decora - 1005 Samba does not work. It doesn't restrict Fred, the user I want to be restricted. 1007 Samba does, yet both groups are identical, and Fred isn't a member of either group, and perms are 770 so he should have ZERO access since he would fall under all others.
[02:19] <Timbauns> O geeez I dont want to write a document I want watch my temrinator dvd
[02:19] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: listen to epinky vlc is much  better
[02:19] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: sudo apt-get install -y vlc
[02:19] <Out_Cold> epinky, do you run tsclient in the terminal? I get "(tsclient:5287): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:19] <Out_Cold> "
[02:19] <Timbauns> sudo?
[02:19] <rhorse> Pmax: are you on the computer with the bad wifi now?
[02:19] <Timbauns> what s that?
[02:19] <ctmjr> !dvds | Timbauns:
[02:19] <Rajasun> vlc sure is 1 pcs of work...can even do shoutcast radio and tv ;)
[02:19] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: you need to open the terminal first,
[02:19] <mdg> vlc rocks!
[02:19] <Timbauns> where can I download the temrinal?
[02:20] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: sudo is the command to run everything after it as the root user.
[02:20] <epinky> Out_Cold: just type: "tsclient" then enter
[02:20] <rhorse> ShawnRisk: it
[02:20] <decora> Roasted: 770 wha is that, rw-rw----?
[02:20] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, he is messing around :)
[02:20] <rhorse> ShawnRisk: it is iwlist scanning
[02:20] <sebsebseb> !terminal |  Timbauns
[02:20] <coz_> Timbauns,  applications/accessories
[02:20] <Out_Cold> epinky, that was the gtk error i got
[02:20] <Roasted> decora - 770 is RWX RWX ---
[02:20] <sebsebseb> !sudo |  Timbauns
[02:20] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: he was starting i p me off,
[02:20] <mdg> Timbauns: how about using Synaptics to get VLC?
[02:20] <rhorse> ShawnRisk: it is iwlist [port] scanning
[02:20] <coz_> Timbauns,   terminal is under that
[02:20] <Rajasun> Timbauns: it shld hv been installed already by default
[02:20] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: thanks for the heads up
[02:20] <ari_stress> monring all
[02:20] <Out_Cold> epinky, i am running this in a terminal via ssh
[02:20] <Rajasun> Timbauns: goto Accessories -> Terminal
[02:20] <Pmax> no
[02:20] <Timbauns> is n sudo i security risk?
[02:20] <Roasted> decora - meaning owner has full rights, gruop has full rights, and others have zero rights. Owner is jason:samba, and fred is not a member of samba, and fred obviously isnt jason, yet fred can read, write, do whatever. But like I said, the other group hes restricted properly. I dont get it
[02:21] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: the computer will only do what you tell it. you are the secutiry risk
[02:21] <epinky> Out_Cold: what command are you using?, X Forwarding is enabled
[02:21] <Timbauns> ok then tell me how i can start chat as user and not as root
[02:21] <Pmax> no...now it says: Quality=48/70  Signal level=-62 dBm
[02:22] <Out_Cold> epinky, probably not? i wasn't aware that x needed to be forwarded
[02:22] <agorist> rhorse - stability is important. Thanks a lot btw.
[02:22] <perscitus> Anyone know how to setup Wifi with Broadcom w/o ethernet cable use?
[02:22] <epinky> Out_Cold: check for X11Forwarding on /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:23] <decora> Roasted: u have 2 groups w same name?
[02:23] <GamerKnight> Timbauns: sudo shutdown now -h -P
[02:23] <rhorse> agorist: NP
[02:23] <mdg> ShawnRisk: how's it going?
[02:23] <Out_Cold> epinky, X11Forwarding yes
[02:24] <GamerKnight> THAT will teach Timbauns to waste my time, trying to help noobs here. not waste my time on idiots
[02:24] <decora> Roasted: is this going through samba, or are u talking about fred using normal linux filesystem comands
[02:24] <agorist> rhorse -- really quick. How do I access the file system dir in the terminal?
[02:24] <plitter> http://pastebin.com/m46c855f4 why cant i scale the picture to a certain height without it affecting the width?
[02:24] <agorist> rhorse - i need to get to usr/bin
[02:24] <GamerKnight> he wont be back anytime soon
[02:24] <owl_> anybody familiar with this little message : ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0) ?
[02:24] <perscitus> Anyone know how to setup Wifi with Broadcom w/o ethernet cable use?
[02:24] <GamerKnight> perscitus: DAMIT!
[02:24] <Out_Cold> agorist, start with ls
[02:24] <manuel__> hi
[02:24] <Iowan> GamerKnight: Timbauns already left
[02:24] <epinky> Out_Cold: now: "ssh -X user@remote_machine"
[02:24] <mdg> perscitus: what kind of broadcom card you have?
[02:25] <GamerKnight> Iowan: i know haha, i wonder why it was so suden haha
[02:25] <Roasted> decora - let me SSH to it from my spare pc and test that out... 1 second...
[02:25] <manuel__> can someone help with grub?
[02:25] <mdg> Iowan: where bouts you from?
[02:25] <GamerKnight> Iowan: mowhahahahahah
[02:25] <agorist> Out_Cold - ls - im in my home directory
[02:25] <sebsebseb> GamerKnight: they seemed to be a troll,  I went through  what they put
[02:25] <rhorse> well, just 'cd /usr/bin'. You will need to use 'sudo' before any copy commands cuz /usr/bin is root access only.
[02:25] <Iowan> mdg: Ohio? ;)
[02:25] <ShawnRisk> mdg:  WEP and quality=64/70 and Signal level=-46 dBm
[02:25] <agorist> Out_Cold - how do I get back one step into the file system dir?
[02:25] <Out_Cold> agorist, cd ..
[02:25] <GamerKnight> sebsebseb: yer i thought he was just a noob asking for help, but he was just wasting me time.
[02:25] <mdg> Iowan: Ohio?
[02:26] <perscitus> mdg.->  Dell Mini
[02:26] <sebsebseb> GamerKnight: that's what I thought, untill I had read stuff that they had already put that I had missed
[02:26] <decora> perscitus do you live near tulsa
[02:26] <Out_Cold> agorist, also use the tab-completion when typing a name like /et*tab*
[02:26] <mdg> ShawnRisk: its either you adapter is not doing wep or you are just too far away from your router
[02:26] <rhorse> agorist: well, just 'cd /usr/bin'. You will need to use 'sudo' before any copy commands cuz /usr/bin is root access only.
[02:26] <GamerKnight> sebsebseb: Trolls shouldnt run ssh on standard ports
[02:26] <mdg> Iowan: I'm from Nebraska
[02:26] <agorist> Out_Cold -- I'm familiar with CD. I just don't know how to show the hidden file in my File System
[02:26] <emanux> hello, i cant burn using brasero
[02:27] <Black_Phantom> emanux, try using k3b
[02:27] <mdg> agorist: ls -a
[02:27] <ak5> Ahhh this makes no sense to me. My Chinese fonts Look extremely pretty in Irssi(screen) but not in a normal urxvt window. Wtf is that all about?
[02:27] <rww> GamerKnight: Please consider reading this channel's guidelines. Your attitude, and giving commands to users in this channel that do things like shut down their computer (or other annoying things), are against them.
[02:27] <rhorse> !cli | agorist
[02:27] <rww> !guidelines | GamerKnight
[02:27] <emanux> is brasero not working anymore?
[02:27] <epinky> emanux: what error do you get?
[02:27] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I am right next to router
[02:27] <mortuis99> is their a way to SHRED all of the files and sub dirs within a dir or does it have to be done dir by dir?
[02:28] <decora> rww: lol, guess we have come a long way since #linpeople
[02:28] <emanux> i cant select a disc to burn even if i already inserted a blank disc
[02:28] <emanux> the selection for disc is disabled
[02:28] <sebsebseb> decora: what's that?
[02:28] <rhorse> mortuis99: rm -fr /dir
[02:28] <agorist> rhorse - sudo cd /usr/bin -- command not found
[02:28] <Rajasun> emanus: brasero is working fine on my end. Could be an issue on your end instead e.g. wrong drive
[02:28] <decora> some old irc channel where they used to tell people to rm -rf the root directory
[02:28] <rhorse> agorist: NOT for cd (!)
[02:28] <GamerKnight> rww: are you a bot? if not sorry. he was wasting everyones time. there are real noobs here that need help
[02:28] <TPS> mdg: Hey, it's me again
[02:29] <moymoy> emanux: close brasero all the way and open it again
[02:29] <TPS> I'm on my laptop now
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !langauge > ak5
[02:29] <mortuis99> rhorse does that just delete the dir or shred it was well/?
[02:29] <TPS> It won't let me resize my partitions
[02:29] <agorist> mdg -- bam! thanks. What does -a do? (I know I can look it up, but throw me a bone. ;)
[02:29] <rww> GamerKnight: I'm aware of this. Someone else breaking channel rules doesn't allow you to do so.
[02:29] <ak5> sebsebseb: wth is ok?
[02:29] <GamerKnight> rww: good point an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind - gandi
[02:29] <rhorse> morticia: just deletes it. Sorry. Don't know how to do it with shred.
[02:29] <mdg> agorist: -a is to list all the hidden files
[02:29] <Out_Cold> epinky, so i have the ssh -X running and tried the xvnc4viewer again still get unable to open display ""
[02:30] <rww> GamerKnight: Indeed :)
[02:30] <agorist> mdf -- cool
[02:30] <sebsebseb> ak5: maybe, but better to use something else really I guess,  and not the one you used of course :)
[02:30] <rhorse> morticia: find can do this, but it's man page is a slog.
[02:30] <mdg> ShawnRisk: that's odd..
[02:30] <TPS> mdg: I don't understand the interfact
[02:30] <li00> Can someone point me at a guide or explain to me how one could load the ubuntu installer on a hard disk partition to send to someone with no optical drive
[02:30] <TPS> interface*
[02:30] <emma> does the mini.iso install a minimal system or does it just not put stuff on the cd so the install takes longer as it pulls it from the web?
[02:30] <emanux> i dont know what is happening to this brasero
[02:31] <owl_> has anybody seen this message on boot up when the quiet splash kernel parameters have been removed ata5: SRST failed (errno=-16) ata5: reset failed, giving up
[02:31] <decora> li00: you get a raw image and do a dd if=ubuntu.img of=/dev/harddisk_device
[02:31] <ak5> sebsebseb: I think that is overdoing it, but thats just me
[02:31] <Black_Phantom> There is a Mac emulator like wine for windows ( Just wondering )
[02:31] <rww> emma: It pulls stuff from the web. There are some more details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:31]  * perscitus smiles at emma 
[02:31] <myk_robinson> hey, guys. Is there a way to disable the drum sound that plays when GDM starts up?
[02:31] <emanux> always asking a device to burn even if i already put it
[02:31] <decora> li00: there are instructions somewhere on the ubuntu wiki (at least for netbook remix)
[02:31] <emanux> and always buring an iso image
[02:31] <rhorse> myk_robinson: put a screwdriver thru your speakers
[02:31] <gagita> no sound in my karmic box, hp compaq nc6230
[02:31] <epinky> Out_Cold: sudo xhost +localhost && sudo export DISPLAY=0:0
[02:31] <rhorse> :)
[02:31] <myk_robinson> rhorse: tried that already
[02:31] <TPS> mdg: Mind walking me through the steps
[02:31] <agorist> mdg - how can I see hidden /usr/bin ? (i'm somewhat confused. In Nautilus /usr/bin is under the "File System". So how do I get to it via the terminal?)
[02:31] <TPS> ?
[02:32] <rww> agorist: "cd /usr/bin"
[02:32] <mortuis99> rhorse i just wanna SshRED everyting in the dir not specific things
[02:32] <rww> agorist: cd stands for Change Directory
[02:32] <GamerKnight> Why is Ubuntu hosted on free node. its so errr arrrr, no ssh, no alternative ports, no mibbit access and this webchar.freenode.net is crap
[02:32] <perscitus> Minimal CD is good for Netbooks and small flash drives i guess
[02:32] <Out_Cold> epinky, xhost:  unable to open display ""
[02:32] <epinky> Out_Cold: sudo xhost +localhost && sudo export DISPLAY=0:0 (in local machine) :)
[02:32] <sebsebseb> akav:  for that one you could have done this instead for example  What Happened!!!
[02:32] <mdg> agorist: hidden files in /usr/bin?
[02:32] <Out_Cold> oh lol..
[02:32] <GamerKnight> that was a serious question?
[02:32] <ardchoille> agorist: You might want to spend some time here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:33] <gagita> agorist: as rww said then ls -lah to see hidden file and size of the file
[02:33] <rhorse> mortuis99: find will do that. give me a sec and I'll check the syntax for you.
[02:33] <agorist> rww - I'm familiar with cd. but when I cd into /usr/bin I just get a 'command not found'.
[02:33] <mortuis99> rhorse TY
[02:33] <mdg> agorist: what command?
[02:33] <emma> rww: i think what i really want is a command line only. My objective is to install a bare 9.10 so that I can change the sources.list and upgrade to 10.4
[02:33] <ShawnRisk> mdg: any other ideas?
[02:33] <agorist> mdg - ok, I obviously said something stupid. Never mind the 'hidden' part. I just need to get into the dir /usr/bin
[02:33] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, because they wanted to save time rather than building a whole new IRC server lol
[02:34] <mdg> ShawnRisk: hmm, you have driver installed, you can see network but cannot connect... right?
[02:34] <rww> emma: Try the Alternate CD, perhaps? I'm pretty sure you can select on there to just install a command-line system (ubuntu-minimal + ubuntu-standard, basically).
[02:34] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: but irc server takes like 2min to setup, there are 100s of other free irc providers out there that dont suck
[02:34] <emma> rww: right on
[02:34] <mdg> agorist: type:  cd /usr/bin
[02:34] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, true, but I can't find a reason why freenode sucks?
[02:34] <mdg> agorist: then:  ls -a to list the files
[02:35] <Guest85919> my /var/log is having 25 gb... how do i clean it?
[02:35] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I connected once but that was before the restart.  Now I can see the networks but the password or something isn't letting me connect.
[02:35] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: No ssl support, no alt ports, no mibbit access, and the webchat suck so bad
[02:35] <agorist> mdg - rww - gagita - rhorse -- thanks all. I found it. I thought I was in /home, but apparently I wasn't and I had to be in /home to get to /usr/bin
[02:35] <mdg> ShawnRisk: so its a wep issue...
[02:35] <Zabbadahu> I am trying to modify my xorg.conf for my video card but I am not able to find it
[02:35] <myk_robinson> owl_: no, not yet
[02:36] <decora> Guest85919: run a du -a /var/log | sort -n | tail -20 and see what is taking the most space. then less it and see why its logging so much
[02:36] <Out_Cold> epinky, that was done
[02:36] <Out_Cold> epinky, do you do this with a script?
[02:36] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: i use alot of networks that are locked down, and dont allow irc on standard port becuase of malware, and becuase the admin are * people. so i have to use this webchat or set up ssh to get outside the network. it drives me made
[02:36] <mdg> ShawnRisk: you are using the default wifi manager in gnome correct?
[02:36] <ZaNeIuM> [21:04] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, not so sure, I don't use windows machines
[02:37] <agorist> Why are is /usr/bin under "file system" in nautilus, but under "home" in terminal?
[02:37] <ShawnRisk> mdg: how do I know if it is 40/128-bit key or 128-bit Passphrase or LEAP or Dynamic WEP (802.1x)?
[02:37] <ZaNeIuM> that is why i assumed
[02:37] <rww> GamerKnight: Freenode allows access over 8001 too. That tends to be unblocked some places that 6667 is blocked.
[02:37] <epinky> Out_Cold: just execute those 2 command lines
[02:37] <Out_Cold> epinky, i did
[02:37] <ShawnRisk> mdg: just the wireless thing at the top right
[02:37] <Filmgeek> hey all - is this the best place for a noob install question
[02:37] <myk_robinson> owl_: no luck, that option only affects the sound after successful login. I am looking at this now:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/437429
[02:37] <GamerKnight> rww: should have tryed 8001 thanks
[02:37] <ZaNeIuM> along with this statment....[21:11] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, i am just learning like yourself
[02:38] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, freenode is made especially for projects I guess
[02:38] <Iowan> Filmgeek: Give it a shot!
[02:38] <mdg> ShawnRisk: not sure about the bit part...
[02:38] <rhorse> mortuis99: "find . -type f -exec shred ’{}’ \;" without the quotes should do it. Run it from within the top directory you want to shred the files in.
[02:38] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, wtf is your malfunction?
[02:38] <Black_Phantom> but I'm impressed by Mozilla how it has its own IRC server
kern.log and syslog
[02:38] <decora> this is absolutely, categorically, indubitably, and unequivocally, the best place for a noob to ask a question
[02:38] <Filmgeek> I just downloaded and installed the wubi installer on an atom machine...upon startup of ubuntu I get dropped inot the GNU grub shell
how do i less it?
[02:38] <Filmgeek> and it's stuck there
[02:38] <ZaNeIuM> Out_Cold: you kidding?
[02:39] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, freenode is like sourceforge but for IRC
[02:39] <epinky> Out_Cold: ok, now "vncviewer -via user@remote_host localhost:0"
[02:39] <decora> Guest85919: look at those files see why they are taking so much. tail -100 /var/log/syslog | less
[02:39] <Out_Cold> go troll elsewhere
[02:39] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I am just going to update all the packages right now to see if that helps
[02:39] <rww> Out_Cold: be nice, please
[02:39] <mdg> ShawnRisk: are you the admin of the router?  You could go in and check the router and copy the keys?
[02:39] <Out_Cold> i am being nice
[02:39] <ZaNeIuM> your the one gripping, [21:13] <Out_Cold> ZaNeIuM, don't assume that because I don't know much about file transfers between different computers makes this my very 1st computer
[02:39] <Rajasun> Guest85919: 25 GB is kinda suspicious but for all i know you could be running a server. If you want the cruft removed, there are tools like logrotate, bleachbit, fslint. Install the latter 2 packages with aptitude or a package manager you like. Some handy commands to know for housekeeping is -> sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge && sudo deborphan --guess-data | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge; sudo apt-get autoremo
[02:39] <Rajasun> ve && sudo aptitude purge '~c'; sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:39] <ShawnRisk> mdg: yes I am the admin.  I am copying the keys
[02:39] <mitrovarr> Hmm... I tried some fixes for the mouse + touchpad issue but none of them helped.  Does anyone have any other ideas?  The issue is that if I connect a USB mouse, mouse clicks (with either the mouse or the touchpad) fail to be recognized some of the time.  Disconnecting the mouse makes the touchpad work properly.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:39] <decora> Guest85919: or even tail -f /var/log/syslog
[02:40] <ShawnRisk> mdg: just to tell you wired to the router works
[02:40] <mdg> ShawnRisk: An update is always a good idea.  The only other option, which I highly hesitate to mention is going the ndiswrapper route, but since you can see the network at this point I'm leaning toward a wep issue.
[02:40] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I am using wireless on this laptop so I know wireless works
 its a flesh desktop installation
[02:40] <perscitus> Im trying to get wifi working on my dell mini
[02:41] <ShawnRisk> mdg: let me finish with update and I will get back to you
[02:41] <mdg> ShawnRisk: good luck!
[02:41] <decora> perscitus: wifi or 3g?
[02:41] <methods> is there a tool that will help me setup my ati card ?
[02:41] <Out_Cold> epinky, even after all that, i log in then get vncviewer: unable to open display "0:0"
[02:42] <emanux> hello, i already rebooted my pc and brasero still cannot device
[02:43] <emanux> worst it cannot eject the devices
[02:43] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: whats running on freenode on port 9003
[02:43] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: i connected to it via ssl, it seems to be a irc server, but its not the same as this one
[02:43] <Leemp> Is there any way to refresh Nautilus' cache of a folder? It seems to be stuck with a bad cache, using the refresh button doesn't help, and its not displaying new files/folders inside of it.
[02:43] <GamerKnight> anyone else have any ideas
[02:44] <epinky> Out_Cold: can you "sudo xhost + && sudo export DISPLAY=0:0"  on remote machine? is X running on remote machine?
[02:44] <Leemp> Note this is just one specific folder.
[02:44] <lucasg> I am trying to install Xubuntu by making three primary partitions: sda1 as ext3 on /boot at 200 MB, sda2 as ext4 on / at 25 GB, and sda3 on /home at 100 GB. All goes well during installation, however when I restart, I am immediately landed a GRUB console. No errors, just the console. Any ideas why it's not booting?
[02:44] <Pici> GamerKnight: This isn't really the place to discuss freenode issues, try #freenode instead.
[02:44] <lucasg> sda3 is ext4 *
[02:44] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, The test network is currently running on testnet.freenode.net, port 9002 for normal connections or 9003 for SSL connections
[02:44] <perscitus> Decadent.->  What part of my original did you have trouble with?
[02:44] <Out_Cold> epinky, x is running but let me do those commands. i don't think the export command needs sudo though as i get errors with and none without
[02:45] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, check this out Canonical donated $2300 to freenode
[02:45] <epinky> Out_Cold: ok, then don't use sudo on export :)
[02:45] <mattjackets> Hi all, I have an nvidia card with twinview enabled.  fresh install of 9.10.  in the past I could force an application to open on a particular monitor by setting DISPLAY=:0.0 or :0.1.  Now, with 9.10, DISPLAY=:0.1 is invalid.  How can I force a particular application to open on a particular monitor?
[02:45] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: we should get ssl for that price
[02:45] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, LOL
[02:46] <Out_Cold> epinky, sudo xhost gives me unable to open display ""
[02:46] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, I think the new test network supports SSL which will replace this in the future
[02:46] <decora> lucasg: my guess would be grub doesnt know whats going on, maybe you could reinstall grub using a livecd
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom:  GamerKnight  old news that they donated quite a bit of money, whenever it was now
[02:46] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom: that would be cool. i think it called testnet
[02:46] <lucasg> decora, I'm on the livecd now
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom:  GamerKnight  also I guess really it was Mark Shuttleworth since as far as  I know Canonical still don't make a profit
[02:46] <Black_Phantom> sebsebseb, do you know when they gonna replace this one with the test one?
[02:46] <lucasg> decora, How/where do I install to?
[02:46] <mattjackets> Out_Cold: try "export DISPLAY=:0" before your sudo command
[02:47] <Pici> GamerKnight, Black_Phantom: This is the Ubuntu support channel, please take offtopic conversation elsewhere. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter, or #freenode for freenode related stuff.
[02:47] <sharpen047> hey all does anyone know how to assign global hotkeys for rhythmbox in kde?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: offtopic, but  replace what with what?
[02:47] <decora> lucasg: yeah its something like uh... you mount your / then you chroot there (after linking your /devs with some command i forget ) then you run grub-install again
[02:47] <epinky> Out_Cold: can you type this in the remote machine physically(I mean type this on remote , not using ssh)?
[02:47] <saledir> хай
[02:47] <Black_Phantom> Pici, cool man
[02:47] <lucasg> decora, I'll try
[02:47] <GamerKnight> sebsebseb:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <GamerKnight> Black_Phantom:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <epinky> !ru | saledir
[02:47] <Black_Phantom> sebsebseb, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <decora> lucasg; u know the chroot ? she is the best!
[02:48] <Out_Cold> epinky, it's headless but possible
[02:48] <lucasg> decora, as long as I can touch, finger, and fsck ;)
[02:48] <decora> lucasg: wow that demented
[02:49] <sebsebseb> GamerKnight: Black_Phantom   uh huh, but I won't be going there,  your off topic is over,  with me taking part in it anyway
[02:49] <con-man> is transmission an acceptable torrent program? or is there better?  my torrents are not downloading...
[02:49] <Black_Phantom> sebsebseb, cool
[02:49] <lucasg> con-man, It's perfectly fine
[02:49] <rww> con-man: Transmission works fine. In my opinion, Deluge works better :)
[02:49] <decora> con-man: get a job
[02:49] <con-man> decora, wtf?
[02:50] <lucasg> decora, Hahahaha
[02:50] <Black_Phantom> GamerKnight, join #freenode with me, am asking them
[02:50] <con-man> well my torrents aren't downloading, and they were downloading just fine in win7 using utorrent :(
[02:51] <lucasg> con-man, Check ports.
[02:51] <decora> lucasg: the command is mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: altough I am wondering why you copied  GamerKnight with the channel name in a message to me
[02:51] <con-man> lucasg, hmmmm I didn't think Ubuntu blocked those ports by default.  Which port numbers do torrents use?
[02:51] <lucasg> decora, I want to do that before I install-grubby?
[02:51] <sharpen047> hey all does anyone know how to assign global hotkeys for rhythmbox in kde?
[02:51] <lucasg> con-man, Make sure the port you have specified is open on your router
[02:51] <decora> con-man: trust me...  Twilight New Moon is not worth torrenting
[02:52] <sweetandy> decora: +1
[02:52] <decora> lucasg: before you chroot, do that, you will get your /devs set up
[02:52] <emma> Twilight New Moon was a good movie in my opinion.
[02:52] <con-man> lucasg, don't use a router, only have 1 computer
[02:52] <emma> decora: -1
[02:52] <lucasg> decora, +1
[02:52] <emma> But this is not a good channel to talk about Twilight New Moon :)
[02:52] <Black_Phantom> sebsebseb, i didnt understand, copying what exactly ?
[02:52] <lucasg> emma, you're a girl, 99% of girls like that movie, so you don't count.
[02:52] <decora> emma: in my opinion 'buffy vs edward' is much better film (although shorter)
[02:52] <mattjackets> anyone know why DISPLAY=:0.1 is an invalid display under ubuntu 9.10 using nvidia twinview?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom:  sebsebseb: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <epinky> Out_Cold: anyway, you need to have an active X-Windows (Gnome, KDE or anyother) session already running before you fire up the VNC server, no matter if headless
[02:53] <emma> I can't imagine how you guys could imagine it being better than it was. It had pretty good action and decent visual effects. There were some moments that were admittedly sappy but that was not the center of mass of the movie. It was pretty cool I thought. As movies go, it's a movie you can unwind and be entertained by.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> !ot
[02:54] <Black_Phantom> sebsebseb, alright we are already there
[02:54] <decora> lol i derailed that silly torrent question
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: ok, but there's some sort of movie off topic now as well
[02:54] <Black_Phantom> oh
[02:55] <obscure> If i run apt-get upgrade to update the packages on Ubuntu Server, (apache2, php5, etc...) do I need to reconfigure them?
[02:55] <GamerKnight> From corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.177) icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered
[02:55] <obscure> my motd has this thing where it says there are a number of packages that can be upgraded
[02:55] <emma> What you are saying is interesting but not really on topic for a support channel. To find a channel related to ubuntu that is more appropriate for socializing, try /msg alis list *ubuntu
[02:55] <obscure> some are security
[02:55] <gp5st> anyone here using unison?
[02:55] <GamerKnight> any idea what Packet filtered means? is the firewall rerouting my traffic
[02:55] <gagita> no sound device in my karmic box, compaq nc 6230
[02:55] <obscure> but I'd like to upgrade them without the need to reconfigure
[02:55] <gagita> anyone can help me please
[02:55] <dhaivat> I need help!
[02:56] <dhaivat> I completely screwed up GTK!
[02:56] <SirTwat> Having some issues with Realtek 8111c/8169 Gigabit drivers... it works when it wants to... can someone help please?
[02:56] <epinky> !who > emma
[02:56] <dhaivat> I was mucking around with IDEs
[02:56] <dhaivat> and
[02:56] <epinky> !who | emma
[02:56] <dhaivat> now, for every gtk app I open
[02:56] <dhaivat> this is the error I get:
[02:56] <metalwolf_> weird error
[02:57] <sharpen047> hey all does anyone know how to assign global hotkeys for rhythmbox in kde?
[02:57] <owl_> !tab
[02:57] <dhaivat> /usr/lib/libgio.so-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_thread_gettime
[02:57] <dhaivat> what should I do?!
[02:57] <dhaivat> nothing is run
[02:57] <dhaivat> *running
[02:57] <dhaivat> I have very important data on my computer
[02:57] <dhaivat> I seriously need help!
[02:57] <sharpen047> does anyone know how to assign global hotkeys for rhythmbox in kde?
[02:58] <decora> dhaivat: shut down X, log on a console, use apt-get to purge and the reinstall some of your gtk libraries
[02:58] <dhaivat> such as?
[02:58] <dhaivat> what gtk libraries?
[02:58] <dhaivat> and how do I shutdown x?
[02:58] <maco> dhaivat: is all your very important data in /home? because if you go to manual partition option when reinstalling and tell it to use the same partition but not to format, your /home is saved anyway
[02:58] <decora> libgio-fam for starters
[02:58] <maco> dhaivat: stop X using "sudo service gdm stop"
[02:58] <owl_> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:59] <dhaivat> okay stopped gdm in console
[02:59] <SirTwat> Can someone help with my Realtek gigabit drivers?  What information do you need from me?
[02:59] <dhaivat> no wait
[02:59] <dhaivat> it won't let me go to console all there is is a black screen
[03:00] <decora> ctrl-alt-f4
[03:00] <dhaivat> that's what I did decora
[03:00] <dhaivat> it didn't work
[03:00] <dhaivat> I have restarted my computer
[03:00] <dhaivat> its loading
[03:01] <sharpen047> does anyone know how to assign global hotkeys for rhythmbox in kde?
[03:01] <dhaivat> okay in the console
[03:01] <dhaivat> now what?
[03:01] <decora> you could try 'failsafe terminal' i guess
[03:01] <epinky> !enter | dhaivat
[03:01] <dhaivat> okay.
[03:01] <decora> dhaivat: is your network up?
[03:02] <dhaivat> lemme check.
[03:02] <b0xxy> how
[03:02] <b0xxy> do
[03:02] <b0xxy> i
[03:02] <dhaivat> nope.
[03:02] <b0xxy> change
[03:02] <b0xxy> name
[03:02] <FloodBot5> b0xxy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <ganjanaut> is possible to update a package with being a MOTU?
[03:02] <dhaivat> it isn't
[03:02] <b0xxy> oh sorry
[03:02] <dhaivat> my network is not up.
[03:02] <decora> ok... you need to get your network up
[03:02] <lstarnes> b0xxy: maybe /nick new-nickname
[03:02] <dhaivat> how?
[03:03] <lstarnes> b0xxy: if you're talking about irc
[03:03] <decora> how do you usually get it up?
[03:03] <thijs> quick question. how do i downgrade from 2.6.15-pae to 2.6.14-pae, i already got 2.6.14-pae installed, but 2.6.15 seems to be a little unstable. Can i boot 2.6.14-pae by default and delete 2.6.15-pae kernels? How ?
[03:03] <dhaivat> well, i normally don't have to in GUI
[03:03] <pc400> Hmmm -- anyone have a Verizon wireless broadband card umw190 and get it to work?  conneciton manager only finds hte "GSM" half of the cards (it's a dual-band card)
[03:04] <scottandmonique> help to set up UPNP in moovidia
[03:04] <decora> dhaivat: well.. you can try reinstalling from within gui
[03:04] <dhaivat> decora?
[03:04] <dhaivat> there is absolutely no gui
[03:04] <dhaivat> since when I try to run gdm,
[03:05] <dhaivat> it tells me the same error
[03:05] <decora> dhaivat: so how do yu connect to the network? wireless? do you hae an ethernet port on this thing?
[03:05] <lstarnes> dhaivat: do you have another desktop environment installed such as kde?
[03:05] <dhaivat> ethernet
[03:05] <Filmgeek> is wubi 9.10 compatible?
[03:05] <dhaivat> no, I don't have kde (i'm familiar with linux just for info)
[03:06] <thijs> quick question. how do i downgrade from 2.6.15-pae to 2.6.14-pae, i already got 2.6.14-pae installed, but 2.6.15 seems to be a little unstable. Can i boot 2.6.14-pae by default and delete 2.6.15-pae kernels? How ?
[03:06] <dhaivat> thijs: look into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:06] <decora> if you have ethernet.... why dont you have network in console?
[03:06] <dhaivat> I don't know!
[03:06] <decora> can you ping
[03:06] <decora> how about ifconfig eth0 up
[03:07] <dhaivat> still ping google.com
[03:07] <dhaivat> returns unkown host google.com
[03:08] <decora> does ifconfig show an eth0
[03:08] <dhaivat> yes
[03:08] <dhaivat> it does
[03:08] <pc400> Can anyone help me setup a Verizon wireless broadband card umw190 in 9.10?
[03:08] <decora> can you ping the gateway
[03:08] <dhaivat> but no broadcast address
[03:08] <mattjackets> ping 74.125.53.100 (google.com)
[03:08] <emanux> is there any configuration for brasero to point the devices?
[03:08] <dhaivat> network unreachable
[03:08] <dhaivat> ping 192.168.6.6 returns network unreachable
[03:09] <perscitus> Why does ubuntu network always hangs with firefox and wget?
[03:09] <decora> usually gateways are 192.168.0.1 or something
[03:10] <dhaivat> I know, my network is special
[03:10] <decora> is it running dhcp?
[03:10] <dhaivat> how can I tell?
[03:10] <DVader> hey slackers, whats up in buntu land
[03:11] <dhaivat> decora?
[03:11] <GamerKnight> guys any have a link or advice for installing REFIT through ubuntu. i need help bad
[03:11] <dhaivat> wait, can I run xfix?
[03:11] <dhaivat> will xfix fix this stuff?
[03:11] <decora> uhm... lastarnes asked a good q. do you have KDE
[03:11] <dhaivat> I don't. Sorry.
[03:11] <badcom-wrk> hello
[03:12] <decora> dhaivat: what exactly did you do in your IDE
[03:12] <decora> dhaivat: if your network wont come up in console your system has serious issues
[03:12] <DVader> does anyone know why gnome menu in 2.28 in the Karmic release refuses to display Type=Link [Desktop Entry]'s
[03:12] <dhaivat> well, i installed anjuta
[03:12] <mortuis99> rhorse is their a way to remove the dir and sub dir names as well?
[03:12] <dhaivat> then it told me I was missing
[03:12] <dhaivat> glib
[03:13] <dhaivat> so I went downloaded and installed that. then, my version wasn't new enough for SDL support
[03:13] <dhaivat> so I went and compiled the new version of anjuta
[03:13] <dhaivat> then, it told me that I didn't have libgio updated enough
[03:13] <TPS> Is anyone good with dealing with unallocated space ?
[03:13] <badcom-wrk> EXT3 still is more used than EXT4?
[03:13] <dhaivat> so I did sudo apt-get install libgio-fam
[03:14] <decora> try apt-get purge libgio-fam
[03:14] <dhaivat> and then one or two steps I can't remember and then this happended
[03:14] <TPS> And wants to walk me through using GParted ?
[03:14] <TPS> Because I'm really confused..
[03:14] <decora> if you look through the ~/.bash_history file you might find the 'one or two steps' you cant remember
[03:14] <dhaivat> okay
[03:15] <dhaivat> okay, I did that purge thing and there's still the exact same error
[03:15] <rhorse> mortuis99: yes, use rm -fr /topdir  That will rm all dir's topdir on down
[03:15] <dhaivat> now, I'll look in my bash history
[03:15] <decora> yeah now get a new .deb of libgio-fam and install it using dpkg -i
[03:16] <Tripados> hello
[03:16] <Guest81841> TPS same problem here
[03:16] <dhaivat> ah yes!
[03:16] <soopos> Is my Apache running: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153791/ ?
[03:16] <TPS> Guest81841: Any solutions so far ?
[03:16] <soopos> * I cannon access my server by ssh
[03:16] <dhaivat> i did sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgnomemm2.0-dev glade-gnome
[03:17] <decora> if you cant get your network up how can you use apt-get install?
[03:17] <epinky> !hi | Tripados
[03:17] <pc400> Can anyone help me setup a Verizon wireless broadband card umw190 in 9.10?
[03:17] <Guest81841> well I managed to make 4 primary partitions but how do I do extended and logical partitions? thats the moot point
[03:18] <dhaivat> wait, what was the dpkg -i command?
[03:18] <raja> Guys when on UBUNTU 9.10 DO NOT USE EXT4 file system there is a bug that corrupts files above 500 megs  use EXT3 file system here is a link to the release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[03:18] <decora> dhaivat: if you dont have network, you can download the .deb package files  transfer them over using a usb drive, then install them using dpkg -i
[03:18] <dhaivat> decora?
[03:19] <Snausages> pc400: I'm sure it's just a missing driver for the stick...  once you have a driver vzw data works great
[03:19] <ShawnRisk> I have tried everything and still wireless isn't working
[03:19] <dhaivat> where can I get the .deb file?
[03:19] <Guest81841> thanks raja I check it out
[03:19] <pc400> Snausages,  - VZW sure doesn't have one, google isn't much help either.  Am I SoL?
[03:19] <bigshot_> my tablet pc hangs on shutdown and logout
[03:19] <decora> you can use apt-get install -d libgio-fam
[03:19] <bigshot_> hey decora
[03:19] <holmser> raja, I use ext 4 and handle 8gb iso's all the time with no problems
[03:20] <decora> it downloads the .deb to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:20] <DanaG> weird... when xsplash goes away, it leaves behind uninitialized video memory.
[03:20] <bigshot_> i enabled boologn
[03:20] <fedbn> Heh, this is pretty good: http://ubuntard.com/2009/11/choosing-an-os-is-not-a-team-sport/
[03:20] <decora> from another machine. or you can probably get the .deb file on the web somewhere
[03:20] <decora> bigshot_: hello
[03:20] <epinky> soopos: you should check with "netstat -an | grep :[apache_port]" too
[03:21] <DVader> The Ext4 corruption is prob condition based, like dual booting or something
[03:21] <dhaivat> irssi error
[03:21] <dhaivat> r
[03:21] <raja> NO its if you do a FRESH install of EXT4 it will corrupt last files ... scroll down and you will see. IM warning anyone who has videos .. USE EXT3 for the time being.
[03:22] <assoguerozen_sx> canonical guys died? several days with no one actualization here @_@
[03:22] <holmser> I did a format and a fresh install, no issues here raja
 for your own safety you dont wanna wake up one day with ur files corrupted . its a bug under investogation
[03:22] <ShawnRisk> any ideas on how to fix wireless connection?
[03:22] <DanaG> where's this supposed corruption?  I entered just after whatever you linked.
[03:23] <iOmlette> !wireless | ShawnRisk
[03:23] <mjheagle8> how do i connect to ethernet in the command line? network manager isnt working since i upgraded.
 scroll down and you will see. its a bug that might corrupt your files. i had 2 videos corrupt on me yesterday just after a reboot
[03:23] <holmser> I think I probably would have noticed by now, I have probably gone through 500gb of data without an issue
[03:23] <Guest81841> TPS: I found this very helpful so far http://aplawrence.com/Linux/linux_partitioning.html
[03:24] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish,you online?
[03:24] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish,i need some help from you
[03:24] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish_, ??
[03:24] <epinky> mjheagle8: man ifconfig
[03:24] <frogzoo> !flash
[03:24] <pc400> hmmm, if I don't have drivers for a usb wireless stick for linux, am I pretty much SoL?
[03:25] <DVader> I'm saying it's prob triggered, might work fine. But you do a certain action like run a certain program, command or a certain system setup and the corrupt might occur. They won't know for sure until them can duplicate it and know what causes the bug
 its up to you. :) but ive warned you and i did my job ;) i rolled back to EXT3 after losing 2 videos yesterday. and found out it happened to more people than i imagined. kit wont show up untill u reboot and u might find ur files not opening / corrupted
[03:25] <frogzoo> pc400: there are sometimes workarounds, google around
[03:25] <pc400> been trying :(
[03:27] <asdf___> hey guys \o im trying to make an active bookmark to enable/disable animated gifs from firefox. im sick of going into about:config and then image.animation_mode.   anyone know of a better way?
[03:28] <Brent> im trying to get SLI working in ubuntu 9.1, if i boot with both cards in, i get no display, if i use only one card everything is fine, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:29] <dhaivat_> how do I mount a flash drive in ubuntu? decora, I need help doing this from console
[03:29] <decora> run dmesg, it will tell you the device. then run mount /dev/whatever /mnt
[03:29] <Lapinux> anything i need to be aware of when trying to upgrade to grub 2?
[03:30] <iOmlette> Usually, it's something like 'sudo mount /dev/drive <mount point>'
[03:30] <Guest81841> raja I put many large files on ext4   --  sadly seen the bug too late -- checking some of the files now
[03:30] <dhaivat_> dmesg gives me a lot of stuff, what should I pick?
[03:31] <holmser> dhaivat, type sudo fdisk -l
[03:31] <holmser> it should show you your device
[03:31] <mitrovarr> I have a strange issue with my touchpad, when a USB mouse is connected.  When a mouse is connected, clicks may not be properly recognized - sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the correct thing happens, and sometimes windows below the current window will interpret the clicks.  Has anyone seen this before?
[03:31] <dhaivat_> okay, how do I mount /dev/sdb?
[03:32] <mitrovarr> oh and if I disconnect the USB mouse, the touchpad will work properly
[03:32] <agorist> how can I make a 'shortcut' to an executable file?
[03:32] <rhorse> dhaivat_: use ls -lart /dev That will put the recent devices last, usually sda1 or sdb1 or something. Then you cann use sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint.
[03:32] <holmser> dhaivat, make a directory in your media folder, eg mkdir /media/USB
[03:32] <decora> sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt (or... if it has partitions like sdb1... sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt)
[03:33] <holmser> then mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USB
[03:33] <mitrovarr> is multitouch enabled by default in 9.10?
[03:33] <mitrovarr> oh, and this mouse/touchpad issue did not exist in 8.10
[03:34] <epinky> agorist: right click on the desktop-> Create Launcher-> etc etc
[03:34] <afallenhope> hey is there a reason why I can't run asm code?
[03:34] <afallenhope> I get "permission denied" and I tried it as root too
[03:35] <dhaivat_> okay, now it says the archive has been corrupted
[03:35] <agorist> epinky - thanks. I've never done that b4
[03:35] <decora> afallenhope: plz to be telling us how you are 'running asm code'
[03:35] <mahngiel> <-- just installed a new window manager, how should i test it before i uninstall metacity?
[03:35] <decora> dhaivat: when you dpkg -i ????????
[03:35] <Xodiac> can someone help me with sound lag it sounds bad then it fixes itself but then it will do it again after a while and then it seems to make my game lag how do i fix this
[03:35] <dhaivat_> yes, when I run dpkg -i
[03:35] <arquebus> afallenhope: did you chmod the source file?
[03:35] <afallenhope> decora, same way I run any other program ./test
[03:36] <afallenhope> arquebus, yes to 0655
[03:36] <afallenhope> then I tried 774
 Yeah .. you need to roll back to EXT3 when possible if you have too many big files. here is a better link. i hope nothing happened. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[03:36] <arquebus> afallenhope: did you compile (assemble) the file?
[03:37] <decora> dhaivat uhmmmm.... run ls -l on your libgio-fam.deb file, how many bytes?
[03:37] <afallenhope> arquebus, yes
[03:37] <tapiocapudding> hey so i'm stuck on a kubuntu install
[03:37] <changeofheart> Hello :D
[03:37] <Xodiac> can someone help me fix a sound lag or crackle i have pulse audio and alsa trying to fix the problem but it just keeps coming back
[03:37] <tapiocapudding> i tried letting the cd partition the hard drive for me but that gave me grub error 18
[03:37] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: whats up.. where you stuck?
[03:38] <tapiocapudding> so i've got the manual partition menu open
[03:38] <tapiocapudding> what should i be doing here?
[03:38] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: do you have multiple drives in the machine?
[03:38] <tapiocapudding> nope just one
[03:38] <mahngiel> anybody here running a window manager other than metacity?
[03:38] <changeofheart> :D anyone else wana answer an easy question?
[03:38] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: did you google grub error 18? and if you did what did it say?
 do you have a laptop?
[03:39] <scottandmonique> i just stoped a guys nic card when he told me he was ssh into the machine woops
[03:39] <mahngiel> changeofheart: i like ez questions
[03:39] <tapiocapudding> yeah, i googled it, all it said was that it was caused by the first partition being too big for the bios
[03:39] <Xodiac> raja: yeah
 ok ill tell you how to fix it 1 sec. gimme me a second
[03:39] <ShawnRisk> ubottu: none of that worked
[03:39] <Xodiac> raja: okay
[03:40] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: ok.. here's a basic partitioning sceem (sceam .. however it's spelled )
[03:40] <changeofheart> mahngiel: i just installed ntfs on ubuntu, and mounted it, but it only shows the "recovery" volume, how can i access my volume
 i posted it on the forums. and ill pull the link 4 u
[03:40] <changeofheart> mahngiel: my main volume*
[03:40] <Xodiac> raja: nice it sound lags during games and its annoying
[03:40] <Xodiac> raja: and crackles
[03:40] <dakota44> hello
[03:40] <dhaivat_> how do I copy a directory to a flash drive?
[03:40] <dAlfa89_> Now I know how much you guys hate Wubi, but why is it not uninstalling? Everything goes, but it's still throwing the entry at boot, reinstalling doesn't fix it, it just boots to an orangey picture, doing nothign
[03:40] <mahngiel> changeofheart: i said easy :P
[03:41] <dakota44> I'm having some trouble with an ethernet matter
[03:41] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: root should be 8-12 gigs .. the mount point for root is represented by "/" .. swap or /swap should be 2x of your ram... and the rest of the space should be /home for your data
[03:41] <decora> dhaivat: you can use rsync -av /source /destination
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045
[03:41] <tapiocapudding> yeah but if i do that, the BIOS can't boot off a partition that big
[03:41] <dhaivat_> how do I copy a directory to flashdrive with command line?
 are you using an HDA sound card?
[03:42] <dakota44> I built a new pc and can't get it to recognize the onboard ethernet but when I plug a D-Link card in it automatically connects.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:42] <tapiocapudding> it told me i needed to make a small partition that the bootloader could get the kernel out of
 follow instructions i posted
[03:42] <Xodiac> raja: uhm HDA? whats that
[03:42] <afallenhope> nvm figured it out
[03:42] <Snausages> dakota44: has the onboard ethernet ever worked?
[03:42] <maco> Xodiac: high definition audio. its a very broad audio specification found in a LOT of laptops and as onboard sound on a lot of desktops
[03:43] <dakota44> I don't know its a brand new mobo
[03:43] <decora> dakota: if the onboard works in windows... you probably need linux driver/activation (use google on your model numbers ). if the onboard doesnt work at all you miht need to enable it in bios
[03:43] <mahngiel> thinkin i need to restart... sys
[03:43] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: the mbr or master boot record that is written is actually pretty small. make the first partition should be root, the next /swap and last /home..
[03:43] <Snausages> dakota44: any chance that ethernet is disabled in the bios? apart from that you're probably just missing a driver.
[03:43] <keiya_> Uh, the darcs package pulled in postfix. How do I configure it in "I don't /have/ a usable FQDN!" mode?
 your audio card. nevermind .. do you get the same noise when booting up?
[03:43] <Xodiac> maco: yeah i think it is this laptop is fairly new
[03:43] <Xodiac> raja: no
[03:43] <maco> keiya_: you could just remove postfix if you like...
[03:43] <dakota44> I loaded ubuntu before the drivers because they are windows only
[03:43] <ulb> this is not directly an ubuntu question..but doesanybody know if there is a way (a scritp or apache module) to build .deb files server side? I was thinkinging about starting a website with gimp brushes/patterns and wanted peopel to be able to drag and drop different selcted brushes and build a deb file to download.
[03:43] <dakota44> how do I load drivers for the bios now
[03:43] <maco> raja: might want to leave off the < > as thats not part of Xodiac's name
[03:43] <Xodiac> raja: just during like open arena and other games
[03:43] <keiya_> Should I just hit local only?
[03:43] <afallenhope> arquebus, I had to change the elf to elf64
[03:44] <keiya_> maco: But I need darcs, and it apparently depends on postfix... >_>
[03:44] <afallenhope> decora ^^
[03:44] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: did this drive  use to have windows on it?
[03:44] <tapiocapudding> no it was clean
[03:44] <Khul> heya, question: i get this error while compiling Icecast2 from sources: checking for xslt-config... no  /////  configure: error: XSLT configuration could not be found   ////  any1 knows how to fix such thing ?
[03:44] <Xodiac> raja: so just delete the power_save=10
[03:44] <maco> keiya_: nah, just recommends it. not a dependency
 oh. you can still try that trick. it takes 10 seconds to do . if it doesnt work. dont worry your not changing any system settings
[03:44] <Snausages> dakota44: find out what kind of ethernet is built in, and google around...  maybe try "(ethernet chipset) ubuntu howto"
[03:44] <raja> yeah try it
[03:44] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: how big and is it sata or ide?
[03:44] <decora> ulb: yeah look at the debuild command
[03:45] <Xodiac> raja:k
[03:45] <maco> keiya_: a fair number of packages recommnd postfix that dont actually need it, as long as you dont intend to send mail from them
 and reboot
[03:45] <tapiocapudding> 160 gig sata
[03:45] <keiya_> maco: Ah... >_>
 come back to tell us how it went :)
[03:45] <Xodiac> raja: okay brb
[03:45] <tapiocapudding> wait, no
[03:45] <tapiocapudding> ide
[03:45] <tapiocapudding> sorry
[03:45] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: that shouldn't be a problem.
[03:45] <arquebus> afallenhope: I had a feeling it had to do with compile options
[03:45] <dakota44> ok, thank you - this is all new to me and stumbled upon the Xchat via ubuntu help page
[03:45] <dennis00> xChat for windows costs money :-(
[03:45] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: that shouldn't be an issue either...
[03:45] <keiya_> maco: That seems like a bad idea, since the postfix configuration thing doesn't have a set of options for the typical case anymore >_>
[03:45] <afallenhope> arquebus, yeah lol sorry
[03:45] <switch263> okay. any easy way to fix the bootloader now that apparently karmic doesnt use grub?
[03:45] <Snausages> dakota44: no worries, you're making a fine go of it so far...
[03:46] <scunizi> dennis00: google. xchat2
[03:46] <decora> karmic doesnt use grub?
[03:46] <keiya_> And is nonfree.
[03:46] <maco> dennis00: silverex.org has it free
[03:46] <scottandmonique> it does so
[03:46] <dakota44> thanx to all, I'm sure I'll be visiting again
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  decora
[03:46] <ulb> decora: is that part of devscripts package?
[03:46] <maco> decora: it uses grub2, which is the grub-pc package
[03:46] <twist_> Hallo
[03:46] <keiya_> The silverex build isn't encumbered
[03:46] <scottandmonique> karmic has grub
[03:46] <switch263> decora, i attempted to use a usb tool to boot and fix grub, and it bitches about not finding the grub confs
[03:46] <dennis00> thanks so much.
[03:46] <scottandmonique> what else would it use
[03:46] <keiya_> maco: Still, what do I do for now? >_<
[03:46] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: lillo?
[03:46] <keiya_> Just push cancel, maybe?
[03:47] <maco> keiya_: i would let the install finish then remove postfix
[03:47] <decora> ulb: uhmm i dont know, google for debuild ... it is how they make .deb packages
[03:47] <keiya_> It doesn't let me do that...
[03:47] <scottandmonique> it does not use lilo
[03:47] <ardchoille> Karmic uses grub2
[03:47] <ulb> k, ty
[03:47] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: not by default no, but it could use it
[03:47] <maco> keiya_: "sudo apt-get remove postfix" doesnt work?
[03:47] <keiya_> maco: I'm at a configuration screen...
[03:47] <keiya_> maco: Not while I'm not at a command line!
[03:47] <tapiocapudding> so about how big should i make the /boot partition for kubuntu
[03:47] <maco> keiya_: it has a "dont configure" doesnt it?
[03:47] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: plus  didn't you ask what it could use instead of Grub?
[03:47] <keiya_> Oh. Right >_<
[03:47]  * keiya_ duhs
[03:47] <scunizi> tapiocapudding: don't make a seperate /boot partition
[03:48] <decora> switch263: you might hae to regenerate the grub config file thingy i forget the command... g
[03:48] <keiya_> Why doesn't it select that if I hit cancel?
[03:48] <ardchoille> !grub2
[03:48] <maco> keiya_: probably some silly limitation of debconf
[03:48] <Xodiac> raja: dang much better
[03:48] <myk_robinson> I need some help with newsgroups if anyone would care to private chat for a minute.
[03:48] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: you didn't need to just pm me with that,  this factoid explains it
 great :)
[03:48] <maco> !pm | myk_robinson
[03:48] <sebsebseb> !grub |  scottandmonique
[03:48] <Xodiac> raja: heck yeah its like so smooth now when playing games
[03:49] <Xodiac> raja: thanks man
[03:49] <decora> switch263: update-grub. also did you do the mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev before chroot?
 please leave a feedback on the forum i gave you :) i posted it
[03:49] <dhaivat_> I have a question about 9.10
[03:49] <dhaivat_> is it stable?
[03:49] <Xodiac> raja: can you give me link
[03:49] <sebsebseb> !pm > scottandmonique
[03:49] <raja> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045
[03:49] <decora> switch263: and mount -o bind /proc blah blah (google)
[03:49] <epinky> !pm> myk_robinson
[03:49] <Xodiac> raja: what do i say lol
[03:49] <dhaivat_> or does it have lots of problems?\
[03:49] <raja> no problem man
[03:49] <switch263> decora, i installed windows, and it broke the bootloader. so now i'm trying to fix it.
[03:49] <switch263> i was able to boot to linux using the usb tool, it just didnt know how to fix it
[03:49] <myk_robinson> very well. I just joined Astraweb and am using SABnzbd+ in Ubuntu. Need some assistance understanding how to join newsgroups. I also have Pan installed.
[03:50] <tapiocapudding> ok, so the root partition should use what filesystem?
[03:50] <rstob911> dhaivat_: just stick around and you will see for yourself
[03:50] <dhaivat_> okay.
[03:50] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: Grub legacy is what versions of Ubuntu use before Karmic,   Karmic uses Grub 2.  well on a clean install,  upgrades from 9.04 will usually have Grub legacy
[03:50] <myk_robinson> ..shouldnt be difficult, must be missing something blatantly obvious
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045 no problem man. im glad i helped you :)
 just say it wokred for you :) so people wont be scared to try my fix ;)
[03:50] <Xodiac> raja: have a good one and i will definatly post
[03:50] <decora> switch263: is there like a 'repair' option on the ubuntnu livecd
[03:51] <switch263> yeah but i havent tried it yet, i'll go do that
[03:51] <switch263> thx
 your welcomed
[03:52] <kb9vqf> Anyone else noticed long-term NFS instability in Karmic?
[03:52] <kb9vqf> Usually ending with a frozen filesystem and the process accessing the disk, but sometimes even a kernel freeze (not panic, oddly enough)?
[03:52] <gagita> no sound device in my karmic box, compaq nc 6230
[03:52] <gagita> need help to fix
[03:52] <maco> gagita: upgrade?
[03:52] <gagita> please
[03:52] <decora> linux doesn't freeze! obviously you are trapped in a space-time phase anomaly
[03:52] <maco> gagita: was it an upgrade from jaunty?
[03:53] <gagita> maco: no fresh instsall
[03:53] <maco> gagita: ok then my idea's out
[03:53] <scottandmonique> sebsebseb the original statment is that karmic does not use grub <decora> karmic doesnt use grub?
[03:53] <epinky> kb9vqf: RPC sometimes freezes :) , not a Karmic issue
[03:53] <Crash8308> what is the best looking linux game available to date?
[03:53] <scottandmonique> but it does
[03:54] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: Karmic  uses Grub 2, not Grub
[03:54] <kb9vqf> epinky: I've had the whole box go down, just the networkging go down, even X freeze.  It's always when moving lots of data over NFS, and it always requires both machines to be restarted
[03:54] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: Grub being Grub legacy
[03:54] <scunizi> !best | Crash8308
[03:54] <sebsebseb> scottandmonique: that's for a clean install
[03:54] <kb9vqf> Never happened under Jaunty, Intrepid, or Hardy
[03:54] <dhaivat_> is 9.10 stable enough for use?
[03:54] <scunizi> dhaivat_: yes..
[03:54] <sebsebseb> dhaivat_: depends on hardware and such
[03:55] <mahngiel> how do i fix a warning on my Reallocated Sector Count?
[03:55] <Crash8308> um, it was not a matter of opinion... I mean is there a game out there that shows the graphical capabilities of linux?
[03:55] <mahngiel> is that basically a defrag problem?
[03:55] <Crash8308> Mahngiel: no
[03:55] <sebsebseb> dhaivat_: if your on 9.04,  may as well just stay with that untill 10.04,  since there isn't really anything ground braking in 9.10.  plus  if you try and upgrade from 9.04, you might get issues
[03:55] <aalex> Is it a good idea to upgrade from 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 ?
[03:55] <decora> dhaivat_: just google "9.10 problems"
[03:55] <ardchoille> mahngiel: There's mo meed to defrag
[03:55] <Crash8308> reallocating sectors is due to hard drive sector failures
[03:56] <sebsebseb> aalex: probably not as such
[03:56] <ardchoille> s/meed/need/
[03:56] <sebsebseb> aalex: ,bcause read what I just put to dhaivat_  ,but also if you wait untill 10.04 you can upgrade directly from 8.04 to it
[03:56] <sebsebseb> aalex: you won't get Grub 2 or Ext4 on upgrade though
[03:56] <scunizi> aalex: if you want you can wait like me.. I've got 8.10 on a desktop and it works fine.. 8.04 on a lappy (the one I'm on) and it's stable.. neither will be upgraded until 10.04.1
[03:56] <mahngiel> i read up on that. probably just due to old age?
[03:57] <Arsin> How can I reset my firmware in Ubuntu on my iPod?
[03:57] <git__> rest firmware *
[03:58] <ardchoille> mahngiel: The system takes care of the "housekeeping" for you
[03:58] <decora> example: this person above whose sound died on 9.10 in a compaq 6230 laptop.
[03:58] <Crash8308> mahngiel: your harddrive needs to be replaced if it is reallocating sectors
[03:59] <mahngiel> ardchoille: ok, thanks. just kinda lookin around. just poking in stuff. i have only 5 bad sectors, and it's a 5 yr old hdd
[03:59] <Crash8308> mahngiel: your HDD has spare sectors for this very reason
[03:59] <raja> GUYS do not use. the default EXT4 file system on 9.10. do a manual partitioning and USE EXT3. EXT4 corrupts big files. here is the link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[03:59] <aalex> sebsebseb: the drivers my wifi card seems less crashy on 9.04, so I am happy I ve upgraded so far.
[03:59] <sebsebseb> raja: uhmm
[04:00] <sebsebseb> raja: that used to be the case,  as for now not quite sure
[04:00] <Crash8308> raja: interesting, I use XFS anyways, more stable
[04:00] <sebsebseb> raja: Ext4 is fine for most people in 9.10 though
[04:00] <sebsebseb> that have been using it
[04:00] <mahngiel> Crash8388: makes sense why only 95% of your HDD is actually useable. i'm just breaking free of the windows mentality to "defragment"
[04:00] <sebsebseb> raja: in fact I haven't seen anyone complain in here about an Ext4 in 9.10 issue, if I remember correctly
[04:00] <reactor_> ?
[04:00] <Crash8308> mahngiel: actually
[04:00] <dibblego> what program can encode my 3x4GB .dv files to mpeg or avi?
[04:00] <Crash8308> mahngiel: the reason you don't see all of your space is due to the file system taking up that space
[04:01] <raja> i just lost 2 videos yesterday. after a reboot. its in ubuntu 9.10 it will corrupt big files before you even know it. so be safe not sorry. i rolled back to ext3 today
[04:01] <dAlfa89_> Now I know how much you guys hate Wubi, but why is it not uninstalling? Everything goes, but it's still throwing the entry at boot, reinstalling doesn't fix it, it just boots to an orangey picture, doing nothing
[04:01] <kb9vqf> raja: Hard reboot?
[04:01] <scunizi> dibblego: avidimux, devede, handbreak
[04:01] <dibblego> scunizi, thanks
[04:01] <sebsebseb> raja: 9.04 is where Ext4 is a bit dodgy, because of the kernel and such, but  I didn't get problems :)
[04:01] <Crash8308> mahngiel: all of the sectors that are set aside for bad sectors are not counted as usable space by the HDD manufacturer
[04:01] <raja> nope just a regular reboot
[04:01] <dhaivat_> ext4 still has lots of problems. don't switch.
[04:01] <raja> EXT4 might corrupt big files.
[04:01] <scunizi> dibblego: also check out www.getdeb.net for LiVeS!
[04:01] <sebsebseb> dhaivat_: Ext4 will be even more stable in 10.04 :)
[04:02] <mahngiel> Crash8308: right, like why i buy a 60g hdd and only 58 is useable
[04:02] <Crash8308> sxrew ext all together, go with XFS
[04:02] <raja> sebsebseb its under release notes on 9.10 .. its a well known problem
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Crash8308: well that can be done as well, but  most people using Ubuntu will be using Ext
[04:02] <sebsebseb> raja: I read that before, but do the release notes get updated hmm
[04:02] <mahngiel> Crash8308: or why that 60g is really 62.4
[04:02] <owl_> is there any way to exclude my cd drive from boot time probes?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> raja: when were they last updated etc etc
[04:02] <scunizi> Crash8308: I've found reiserFS to work well with sata drives..
[04:02] <git__> remove the cd boot time option
[04:03] <raja> sebsebseb they were last updated last week
[04:03] <plouffe> Is pulseaudio still required on 9.04 (64bitAmd)?
[04:03] <sebsebseb> raja: also  when I read it, it said there might be an issue
[04:03] <git__> scunizi, reiserfs is no longer supported
[04:03] <sebsebseb> raja: they were investigating a possible issue, or whatever it said
[04:03] <owl_> do you know how?
[04:03] <scunizi> git__: oh well.. hopefully it'll be picked up by someone..
[04:03] <raja> its up to you man.. but i did what i can iand i warned people. because i just got 2 files corrupted yesterday. 2 videos
[04:03]  * kb9vqf thanks raja
[04:04] <scottandmonique> is anyone using Ushare
[04:04] <sebsebseb> raja: I did a test between  Ext3 and Ext4  for 9.10.   since with  / in 9.04 and Ext4 things really do speed up, the boot up, shut down, and disk checking
[04:04] <scottandmonique> or moovidia
[04:04] <owl_> because it keeps giving these time consuming error messages, and i wondered if i could just disable the cd drive until its fixed
[04:04] <sebsebseb> raja: with 9.10 it didn't seem to make a difference
[04:04] <scottandmonique> wine doors
[04:04] <dhaivat_> is there a bittorrent link for 9.10 ubuntu?
[04:04] <git__> ext4 isn't really enterprise ready
[04:04] <raja> i know ext3 and ext4 doesnt have much doff in speed on 9.10 thast why i rolled back to ext3 and not lose more files
[04:04] <keiya_> Ugh, email is a mess: trying to go to client-sever-server-client with protocols and tools designed for both-both communicatiton is... not fun >_<
[04:04] <scottandmonique> the questions being asked are lame
[04:05] <dhaivat_> ext3 is awesome and stable
[04:05] <scunizi> dhaivat_: yep.. it's on the main ubuntu.com site..
[04:05] <sebsebseb> !download | dhaivat_
[04:05] <git__> u either have to use jfs or xfs or oracle fs if u gonna do enterprise work
[04:05] <mahngiel> !torrents | dhaivat_
[04:05] <dragon> is it reasonable to run karmic-desktop amd64 with 2GB RAM?
[04:05] <dhaivat_> !torrents
[04:05] <git__> ext3 is awesome and stable for desktop use
[04:05] <dhaivat_> !torrents | dhaivat_
[04:05] <scottandmonique> anyone sucessfull in there samba setup can there xp machine see the shared ubuntu folder
[04:05] <scunizi> dragon: sure
[04:05] <dhaivat_> !torrents | dhaivat_
[04:05] <git__> when u get to very intensive multimedia app, ext3 FLUNKS
[04:05] <dragon> scunizi: what'd the performance be like?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> git__: XFS has the the Ext4 advantages or so they say, and it's been around for years and years
[04:05] <dAlfa89_> scottandmonique, I got mine working, what's the problem?
[04:06] <viejotren> hi, i have a problem with the installation using my pendrive, in fact the problem is with ubuntustudio, the installation is always looking for a cd drive, is there a way to deactivate this?
[04:06] <decora> scott: yeah.... can you browse to the linux machine at all?
[04:06] <dragon> scunizi: forgot to mention, it's a pentium 4
[04:06] <dhaivat_> !torrents | dhaivat
[04:06] <raja> Anyone with crackling/scratching/poping  noises on a laptop or desktop try this it fixed my audio for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045
[04:06] <scunizi> dragon: a pentium 4 isn't 64 bit compatible.. get the 32 bit
[04:06] <mahngiel> !alsa | raja
[04:07] <dragon> scunizi: mine seems to work with amd64 LiveUSB for some reason.
[04:07] <git__> mplayer is the best player to play any video files
[04:07] <git__> except for the new asf
[04:07] <dragon> scunizi: I've already confirmed the presence of "lm" in /proc/cpuinfo
[04:08] <scunizi> dragon: it's not a dual core though.. it does have hyperthreading though..
[04:08] <viejotren> is there any way to deactivate the cd drive check in ubuntu studio?
[04:08] <Arsin> How can I reset my firmware in Ubuntu on my iPod?
[04:08] <decora> what is ubuntu studio?
[04:08] <git__> ubuntu studio is a development env running under ubuntu
[04:08] <switch263> hm. no repair option on the CD.
[04:08] <decora> lol whys it check the CD drive?
[04:08] <dragon> scunizi: yes, but will it affect my ability to run 64-bit on it?
[04:09] <scunizi> dragon: if it works.. go for it.. 2 gigs of ram should be enough
[04:09] <dragon> scunizi: ok, thanks :)
[04:09] <dhaivat_> is there a way to install 9.10 without ext4 instead with ext3?
[04:09] <viejotren> in the installation process of ubuntu studio always try to use the cd drive as the source media
[04:09] <viejotren> i dont have a cd drive
[04:09] <decora> viejotren: long shot.... is your CDROM commented out of /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:09] <viejotren> that is because I can't install it
[04:10] <viejotren> no decora
[04:10] <viejotren> wait
[04:10] <viejotren> I'm in the installation process
[04:10] <viejotren> in this part
[04:10] <mahngiel> ardchoille: i installed enlightenment's window manager, but i don't see anything different. how can i check which win mgr i'm using?
[04:10] <stevo> how do i create another user?
[04:10] <viejotren> always said that i need a cd drive
[04:10] <dhaivat_> !fluxbox
[04:10] <viejotren> and I'm using a pen drive
[04:10] <dhaivat_> !ke
[04:10] <dhaivat_> !kde
[04:11] <dhaivat_> !kde
[04:11] <stevo> !shutup
[04:11] <mahngiel> !e16
[04:11] <dhaivat_> I'm just trying to find out info!
[04:11] <mahngiel> !enlightenment
[04:11] <dhaivat_> sheesh!
[04:11] <dhaivat_> !Kubuntu
[04:11] <dhaivat_> !metacity
[04:12] <stevo> can anyone help me herE?
[04:12] <Random832> dhaivat, you can /msg it to the bot directly
[04:12] <decora> viejotren: my first guess would be to drop to a shell and redirect your cdrom device to /dev/null or something
[04:12] <viejotren> in the ubuntustudio channel I didn't get any support
[04:12] <mahngiel> i installed enlightenment (v16) and uninst. metacity, i don't see any difference
[04:12] <dhaivat_> what IS metacity? I don't really get how GTK and metacity and such tie together...
[04:12] <Taim> !botabuse | dhaivat_
[04:12] <Random832> dhaivat, it's a window manager - the app that draws the frames around the windows and controls moving and resizing
[04:12] <mahngiel> metacity is the window manager that comes with gnome
[04:12] <mohan2> @All, Hi friends
[04:12] <changeofheart> Im back!!!
[04:12] <mahngiel> hey mohan2
[04:13] <nbros652> stevo: System -> Administration -> Users and groups
[04:13] <mahngiel> wb
[04:13] <seidos> laptop battery charge isn't reported correctly?
[04:13] <viejotren> decora, redirecting the cd drive to /dev/null how the kernel will understand this?
[04:13] <decora> viejotren: if possible see if you can figure out which commands are probing for CD, and somehow trick them
[04:13] <dhaivat_> one last lookup for ubottu
[04:13] <dhaivat_> !python
[04:13] <mohan2> I want talking dictionary I had installed stardict but it's not working for me. It there any alternative s/w of talking dictionary.
[04:13] <dhaivat_> !perl
[04:14] <mahngiel> !flood | dhaivat_
[04:14] <dAlfa89_> Now I know how much you guys hate Wubi, but why is it not uninstalling? Everything goes, but it's still throwing the entry at boot, reinstalling doesn't fix it, it just boots to an orangey picture, doing nothing
[04:14] <Taim> dhaivat_: Please use ubottu's advice regarding how to use ubottu.
[04:14] <stevo> how about in kubuntu, nbros652
[04:15] <Zsoci> hi there
[04:15] <decora> viejotren: i dont know how ubuntustudio probes your cdroms, but the idea is to fake it , i dont know exactly how.. it depends on what detection routine it is using
[04:15] <mahngiel> is there a terminal entry to find out which Win Mgr i'm using?
[04:15] <maxxist> quick question.  can someone suggest a good cli setup and general system config application that can be found in the repos?  something good to run on a ubuntu server through ssh.  just to make stuff a little simpler for me?
[04:16] <dhaivat_> sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[04:16] <viejotren> decora, I understand you, maybe something like emulate the cd rom right? but how?
[04:16] <dhaivat_> maxxist: sudo apt0get install ssh-server
[04:16] <Zsoci> i use ubuntu 9.10 Karmic 64bit,my problem is that something is wrong with Ramlog,can't install it
[04:16] <scunizi> dhaivat_: or simply sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:16] <git__> i hate commandline sudo apt-get install blah blah
[04:16] <dhaivat_> or yes what scunizi said
[04:16] <git__> why can't u just click and click
[04:16] <git__> and be done
[04:16] <viejotren> maybe passing some parameter to the kernel
[04:16] <scunizi> maxxist: or just ssh and you'll get the server and client
[04:16] <dhaivat_> command line is awesome. GUI is for n00bs (no flame war plz)
[04:16] <mahngiel> git__: then use synaptic
[04:17] <git__> or better yet ... have someone do it for u via IRC
[04:17] <decora> viejotren: do you have the specific error message it gives you?
[04:17] <scunizi> dhaivat_: maxxist and actually it will insall openssh server and client
[04:17] <dhaivat_> git___: that's really stupid and wastes time
[04:17] <nbros652> stevo: haven't really used Kubuntu much, but you should be able to add them through the command line if nothing else. Hang on a second while I try to recall the syntax
[04:17] <maxxist> i mean a menu system for general system administraion.  i know how to install ssh.
[04:17] <decora> mahngiel: no but pstree might help (look under x session)
[04:17] <viejotren> decora: yes, failed to load a cd drive, no was detected
[04:17] <git__> computer should be easy to use and automatic
[04:17] <viejotren> it seems that it's looking for
[04:17] <dhaivat_> maxxist: what do you want to do with it? I mean, for what tasks?
[04:18] <viejotren> maybe some /dev/cdrom
[04:18] <git__> is there a VM service for ubunut
[04:18] <dhaivat_> maxxist: if you want to write quick scripts to check on stuff, look at perl.
[04:18] <mohan2> @Have anyone look at my problem?
[04:18] <dhaivat_> what's your problem?
[04:18] <maxxist> dhaivat_: just general stuff.  like network, services and the like...
[04:18] <git__> i want to remotely try out Ubuntu 9.10
[04:18] <git__> how do i do it?
[04:19] <dhaivat_> maxxist: go to System-> administration and take your pick!
[04:19] <mohan2> @dhaivat I want talking dictionary I had installed stardict but it's not working for me. It there any alternative s/w of talking dictionary.
[04:19] <git__> without the need to download ISO
[04:19] <darkdelusions> git__: the best way is to get the live cd
[04:19] <scunizi> git__: remotely?  watch someone else run it on their computer
[04:19] <maxxist> dhaivat_: i mean using cli through ssh on a headless vm.  no X
[04:19] <git__> scunizi, more like spin up a VM
[04:19] <decora> viejotren: it all depends on how they are doing the detection. if you could get a logfile or something it would help
[04:19] <dhaivat_> maxxist: ah. x11 forwarding?
[04:20] <scunizi> git__: sure you could download an appliance.. or the iso and install into a vm.. you still need to download something.
[04:20] <viejotren> all right
[04:20] <nbros652> stevo: try typing 'man adduser' in  a terminal session. Scroll using arrow keys and quit with [shift]+[q]
[04:20] <cwillu_at_work> what background process would be writing "AT+GCAP" to a serial link (that most definitely isn't a modem)
[04:20] <git__> scunizi, heard of Citrix or RDP?
[04:20] <dhaivat_> maxxist: learn all the basic cli network tools like ifconfig and such and that's all that the actual gui tools use most of the time.
[04:20] <git__> not sure how comparable vnc is to rdp
[04:20] <cwillu_at_work> it's garbling the commands I'm trying to send to an embedded processor, and making me want to throw things through windows :p
[04:20] <nbros652> stevo: that should give you all the syntax to add a new user.
[04:20] <dhaivat_> mohan0: check out dictionarist.com
[04:21] <mohan2> okay
[04:21] <decora> viejotren: are you using 9.10? maybe older version will work
[04:21] <scunizi> git__: sure.. don't know anyone with either setup for you to run remotely though.. rdp could be done by anyone running ubuntu if they wanted to give you access..
[04:21] <emergion> hello could someone please help me I had this page looking ok the other day in ie6 and now it looks like this. http://tpw.buzbox.net/?option=com_theperfectwave&view=product&cid=40 can anyone notice anything obvious I may have done for this to happen. it is really giving me a hard time. Thanks.
[04:21] <decora>  viejotren no im not here tomorrow sorry
[04:21] <raja>  Anyone with crackling/scratching/poping  noises on a laptop or desktop try this it fixed my audio for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335045
[04:22] <mohan2> @dhaivat I need standard alone application, not webbased
[04:22] <Guest81841> regarding the ext4 problem -- 5 out of 5 files 2Gb+ check ok -- still considering to revert back to ext3 -- is it possible that files get damaged during ext4 - ext3 conversion?
[04:22] <josephnexus> i just helped a friend upgrade her dell laptop to karmic and all appeared to have gone well
[04:22] <dhaivat_> mohan2: why doesn't stardict work?
[04:22] <decora> Guest81841: always backup before doing any filesystem conversion
[04:22] <scunizi> git__: I heard at one point you could log into a test system on Amazon's EC2 .. but that was a while ago
[04:23] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/484677
[04:23] <DanaG> hmm, is THAT why my login is so slow?
[04:23] <josephnexus> after some time of using though, we've noticed that the touchpad and the keyboard stop working for a few minutes and then they start working again... lights flash and such on the led above the keyboard (apparently random)... has anyone else experienced this?
[04:23] <DanaG> It's not readahead-packed!
[04:23] <mohan2> @dhaivat shall I print the error message here.
[04:23] <naples_guy> hello #ubuntu
[04:23] <Guest81841> decora: sure enough
[04:23] <decora> josephnexus: karmic is a gigantic cluster @#$@#$ , google it
[04:24] <josephnexus> most of the results i'm finding are for 9.04... which was working fine
[04:24] <dhaivat_> mohan2: sure
[04:24] <josephnexus> it isn't that it doesn't work at all, it's that it works and then after a few minutes, it jumps around and acts crazy... and then it starts working again...
[04:24] <naples_guy> any reason for no output for simple commands while root?
[04:24] <dhaivat_> mohan2: if its more than 2 lines, use pastebin.com
[04:24] <scunizi> decora: come on... you don't need to do that here.. you could go to #windows to do that.
[04:24] <decora> josephnexus: you MIGHT try a different version of your kernel, long shot of fixing it
[04:25] <josephnexus> does this issue appear to be a kernel issue?
[04:25] <josephnexus> is there an errata page or something?
[04:25] <scunizi> josephnexus: ms keyboard or logitec?
[04:25] <josephnexus> it's the built in stuff to the laptop
[04:26] <josephnexus> and it works fine and then seemingly random it will either stop working, or jump around a ton, and then after a few minutes of spazzing out, it works again for a bit
[04:26] <mohan2> @dhaivat okay
[04:26] <naples_guy> this is an easy one.... but I really don't understand it.  anyone want to look?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/331462/
[04:26] <nbros652> stevo: That work for you, or do you need more details?
[04:26] <scunizi> josephnexus: some laptops have strange issues.. comes with the territory.. you should google your model and ubuntu.. like "xyz123 on ubuntu"
[04:26] <josephnexus> we went about 2 hrs with it working the other day, but I just got an e-mail from her telling me it did it twice almost immediately after bootup
[04:26] <josephnexus> i did, but the only results google found were for 9.04 and 8.04 oddly enough
[04:27] <decora> josephnexus: if the usb drivers and timing are jacked up, a different kernel might possibly fix it
[04:27] <vyan> anyboxy can you help to fix my problem, screen problem on http://pastie.org/719864 , thx
[04:27] <scunizi> josephnexus: they may still apply
[04:27] <naples_guy> !root
[04:27] <stevo> nbros652,  i think it worked
[04:27] <stevo> ill be back
[04:27] <dragon> The Karmic installer calculates partition size based on 1 MB=1000000 bytes assumption, which is retarded. Is there a quick fix?
[04:27] <khelvan> Hello, is fuppes in any Ubuntu repository?
[04:27] <naples_guy> !more sleep
[04:27] <dragon> !fuppes | khelvan
[04:27] <josephnexus> i'll try another kernel
[04:27] <josephnexus> she doesn't have more than 3gb of ram
[04:27] <josephnexus> so that gives us a few more options
[04:27] <khelvan> !fuppes
[04:28] <nbros652> stevo: great
[04:28] <decora> dragon: type in MiB instead of MB, or type in exact byte counts
[04:28] <josephnexus> is there anything in the bios that could be changed to help with this?
[04:28] <naples_guy> the simple command of "dir" doesn't work while root?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/331462/
[04:28] <khelvan> Ubotto knows nothing about fuppes.
[04:28] <dragon> !info fuppes | khelvan
[04:28] <stevo> nbros652,  it worked! :)
[04:28] <stevo> thaks
[04:28] <scunizi> naples_guy: dir is a windows command.. ls will do the same thing but it's more powerful
[04:28] <nbros652> no prob
[04:28] <dhaivat_> !windows
[04:28] <dragon> decora: It's asking for a number in MB. When I entered 10240, it came out to be 9.5 GB.
[04:28]  * naples_guy is a moron
[04:29] <josephnexus> ls | grep nameyoulookfor
[04:29] <josephnexus> woohoo!
[04:29] <josephnexus> :-P
[04:29] <dragon> decora: it's karmic desktop installer.
[04:29] <changeofheart> umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda2 from /media/RECOVERY
[04:29] <lonx101> hey fuys, does anybody know of a command line tool that will act sort of like cat, except write to a specific location within a file? (eg insert stdout into the middle of a file)
[04:29] <josephnexus> dragon: is it saying 9.5GB free?
[04:29] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know if theres a fix to get last.fm working in banshee?
[04:29] <changeofheart> how do i use root to unmount? umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda2 from /media/RECOVERY
[04:29] <josephnexus> or 9.5GB total?
[04:29] <dhaivat_> lonx101: use the redirection operator
[04:29] <stevo> nbros652,  this is how it looked like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/331464/
[04:29] <maco> changeofheart: sudo
[04:29] <josephnexus> changeofheart: sudo umount bladebla
[04:30] <josephnexus> just prepend it with sudo
[04:30] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: you can use mpd with mpdscribble
[04:30] <dragon> josephnexus: it thinks 10240 MB = 9.5 GB.
[04:30] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_ would that be integrated with Banshee?
[04:30] <josephnexus> yes, but has it formatted and such yet? or is it showing that before the installation occurs
[04:30] <josephnexus> each filesystem type has some overhead, usually from reserved blocks.... you might be seeing the size AFTER overhead
[04:30] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: i dont know if Banshee has last.fm suppose
[04:31] <dragon> josephnexus: beforehand
[04:31] <josephnexus> just a shot in the dark...
[04:31] <josephnexus> hmm... then I am as baffled as you are
[04:31] <josephnexus> :-P
[04:31] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: how i get my music to sync with last.fm is i use mpd with mpdscribble
[04:31] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_ it does. sort of.
[04:31] <osirisx11> i have 6gb and ubuntu only sees 3. do i need to have x64 edition for it to see more than 3?
[04:31] <Kirsch> hi all, i know this may sound like a stupid question but when i do zip -r etc.zip /etc/init.d and then unzip etc.zip, it recreates the "etc/init.d" folder structure, how would I change this? (etc/init.d is an example)
[04:31] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_ I really dont care about audio scrobbling, I just want the radio
[04:32] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: ahh, i see. one sec, lemme see what i can find
[04:33] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_ I think I might have it
[04:33] <Guest81841> 90 Gb directory seems to belong to 'root' -- how do I convert it (and everything in it) so it belongs to me (user)?
[04:33] <naples_guy> scunizi, ls does not work under root either
[04:33] <sekyourbox> I know there is "text to speach" software for linux, but is there a "speach to text" program for ubuntu?
[04:34] <decora> vyan: my guess is your filesystem got corrupted during an apt-get update or during package installation. you can go to each of those packages, and manually delete the post-install script files for them in order to be able to reinstall them
[04:34] <scunizi> naples_guy: you just trying to get a directory listing?
[04:34] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: yeah? wha did you find?
[04:34] <decora> Kirsch: cd into /etc first
[04:34] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_, using a PPA
[04:34] <maco> Guest81841: chown -R user directory
[04:34] <maco> Guest81841: er, sudo that
[04:34] <naples_guy> scunizi, yes, i am just playing with commands and learning the shell.  i know sudo is the way to go, but i just wanted to experiment with root and -i
[04:35] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: ahh, i see. i found this http://apt.last.fm/
[04:35] <ShawnC> Hello, when I log into my ubunutu ultimate edition I get this extremely annoying beeping sound, it's not system beep as I disabled it. I have a HP Pavilion DV4. Can anyone please help me.
[04:35] <josephnexus> talk w/ everyone later
[04:35] <lonx101> dhaivat_: just looking up redirection operators now, looks promising. do you know how I can redirect to a location within a file?
[04:35] <josephnexus> thanks for the suggestion, we'll see if a different kernel resolves the problems
[04:35] <josephnexus> take care
[04:35] <maco> !ultimate  | ShawnC
[04:35] <GodfatherofEire> nytek_ I'd prefer to have it integrated, if its not I'll just use rhythmbox
[04:35] <Guest81841> thanks maco trying...
[04:35] <nytek_> GodfatherofEire: cool, good luck :D
[04:35] <RebelZero> naples_guy, I think you're confusing your directory structure
[04:35] <ShawnC> Where do I go for UE? it cuts out lol
[04:36] <RebelZero> naples_guy,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/331466/
[04:36] <scunizi> naples_guy: don't know why that would make ls not function.. "exit" from sudo -i and try again with ls to see what happens
[04:36] <jeiworth> hi all, trying to get doom3 to run but fails after initializing the resolution with a segfault, anyone know how to fix this?
[04:36] <ShawnC> Hello, when I log into my ubunutu 9.04 I get this extremely annoying beeping sound, it's not system beep as I disabled it. I  have a HP Pavilion DV4. Can anyone please help me.
[04:36] <maco> ShawnC: its not cut off. we dont have a channel to list there. check the website from whence you got it
[04:36] <sekyourbox> I know there is "text to speach" software for linux, but is there a "speach to text" program for ubuntu?
[04:36] <Kirsch> decora: is it possible to do it without doing that? i'm doing this from a script
[04:36] <decora> lonx101 you cant. you can cat the first x bytes (or lines) of the file, then append the 'text to insert', then append the rest of the original file.
[04:37] <scunizi> ShawnC: that's the sound of your windows partition screaming in protest to a superior OS
[04:37] <naples_guy> RebelZero, thanks for the explanation
[04:37] <RebelZero> naples_guy, you're welcome
[04:38] <naples_guy> RebelZero, i thought there was only one "Desktop"
[04:38] <ShawnC> scunizi: It's single booted
[04:38] <decora> Kirsch: are you trying to save the entire /etc tree?
[04:38] <TPS> Windows 7 stuck in infinite loop
[04:38] <TPS> Woo
[04:38] <Kirsch> decora: no, just the init.d folder
[04:39] <sekyourbox> TPS, are you debugging windows 7?
[04:39] <scunizi> ShawnRisk: darn.. I though I had figured it out :)
[04:39] <sekyourbox> TPS, there are a lot of traps if you are
[04:39] <TPS> sekyourbox: No
[04:39] <TPS> My GRUB broke
[04:39] <TPS> Then Windows startup files broke
[04:39] <TPS> And it tried to repair and failed
[04:39] <decora> Kirsch: do you want them all 'init.d/filename' or just 'filename'
[04:39] <Guest81841> maco: worked like a dream, thanks a bunch
[04:39] <Kirsch> 'init.d/filename'
[04:40] <RebelZero> naples_guy, each user will have their own within their own /home/user directory. root generally does not have one rarely needs to log into the GUI as root.
[04:40] <maco> Guest81841: np
[04:40] <jeiworth> sekyourbox: check out this, stumbled upon it the other day but haven't tried it myself: http://simon-listens.org/index.php?id=122&L=1
[04:40] <naples_guy> RebelZero, do you have any advice for me?  I'm trying to learn to navigate the shell using relative paths and shortcuts.  Any websites you recommend?
[04:40] <UbuntuUser> how do i update my bios using a zip file from the manufacturer website?
[04:40] <Ubuntu_> ddd
[04:41] <UbuntuUser> huh?
[04:41] <sekyourbox> jeiworth, thanks
[04:41] <decora> Kirsch: how about using cd in the script? and then cd back to your original directory
[04:41] <RebelZero> naples_guy, experience was my teacher through trial and error.
[04:41] <Kirsch> decora: its a php script :-\
[04:41] <jeiworth> sekyourbox: yw, no garanties, though ;)
[04:41] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: rule of thumb on bios.. if it's working don't fix it.
[04:41] <dhaivat_> Kirsch: perl ftw!
[04:41] <Kirsch> lol
[04:42] <naples_guy> RebelZero, i understand.  At this rate, I'll understand the shell by age 194.  =)
[04:42] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, i'm trying to install msiwindosx86 and i need to do a bios update
[04:43] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: what's msiwindowsx86?
[04:43] <UbuntuUser> its osx for msi wind
[04:43] <Colonel_Panik> naples_guy, using a gui as root is or can be dangerous as you know with Windows. A double click jerked a little bit in Explorer can drag and drop the windows directory into your printer spool and guess what windows won't boot
[04:44] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: so it's the osx OS that runs under windows? I"m los
[04:45] <scunizi> *lost
[04:45] <decora> Kirsch: 1. you could pass a 'cd /etc ; zip -r blah blah ' command to bash, 2. you could open a pipe, run cd then run zip 3. ask a php forum
[04:45] <naples_guy> i know that i dont need to login as root, but i am trying to learn the shell.  its independent study, hobby, and personal interest all rolled into one.  I bought a book on it and everything.
[04:46] <RebelZero> naples_guy, the shell can seem intimidating but it is a rather powerful tool once you learn how to operate within one.
[04:46] <scunizi> naples_guy: and no need to be at root to explore the cli
[04:46] <jeiworth> bash rul0rz! :D
[04:46] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, the info in the docs said to add a bios update for it, but its a zip file. do i have to install windows first?
[04:47] <decora> if you are never root, you will never mess up your system really bad... thus you will never learn anything.
[04:47] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: so google shows it's a crack of osx right? so you can install it along with windows?
[04:47] <naples_guy> RebelZero, yeah, the shell is really neat.  once I get it, it will be powerful for me.  i hate having to ASK and BUG you guys in #ubuntu every single time i need to do something in the shell
[04:47] <losha> decora: the truly talented can mess up a system without being root...
[04:48] <decora> losha do u have example in mind?
[04:49] <naples_guy> does anyone understand that this was a TEST and not regular practice?  =/
[04:49] <Kirsch> decora: any idea?
[04:49] <Zargle> How do i delete my ubuntu partition?
[04:49] <osirisx11> [karmic, x64/RAM question] i have 6gb and ubuntu only sees 3. do i need to have x64 edition for it to see more than 3?
[04:49] <decora> Kirsch: i posted above. not a php guru sorry
[04:49] <jeiworth> osirisx11: yes
[04:49] <losha> decora: do I need to provide one? It's probably off topic...
[04:50] <Kirsch> decora: ok heh, thx
[04:50] <decora> zargle: do you want to keep windows
[04:50] <Zargle> I have a mac
[04:50] <decora> Kirsch: if it was python i would use pythons builtin zip functions
[04:50] <Zargle> and i used my Boot Camp... to partition and my boom camp wont reconize my ubuntu partition after i installed it
[04:50] <Hrishi> anyone successful in getting a 3D graphics driver for Via Chrome 9 HC IGP for linux?? Openchrome only supports 2d Graphics... Anyone has a lead for the proprietary driver?
[04:50] <Zargle> and disk utility for some reasonw ill not delete the partition
[04:50] <Zargle> how might i just delete it
[04:50] <osirisx11> jeiworth: $^##$^#&@&@ thank you.
[04:51] <osirisx11> jeiworth: any way for x86 to see all 6?
[04:51] <Guest77629> i am a total newbie and i do not understand the repository stuff
[04:51] <RebelZero> naples_guy, I did... just keep practicing but keep in mind that sudo should be used only when needed. we've seen so many new users who didn't know what they were doing with sudo that it's basically reactionary for people to warn against using it.
[04:51] <jeiworth> osirisx11: not linux' fault, simple matter of adressing, same in windows btw
[04:51] <osirisx11> jeiworth: so no way to do it?
[04:51] <Zargle> i need to reinstall ubuntu cause of me doing a graphics card install and my screen goes black now and i cant get to log in screen
[04:52] <mshade> osirisx11: you need a kernel with PAE extensions
[04:52] <Hrishi> anyone successful in getting a 3D graphics driver for Via Chrome 9 HC IGP for linux?? Openchrome only supports 2d Graphics... Anyone has a lead for the proprietary driver? please do mail me at fnkygy@gmail.com in case of solutions :)
[04:52] <mshade> osirisx11: 32bit can see all RAM just fine, but you need a kernel with PAE support
[04:52] <jeiworth> osirisx11: with 32 bit you can only adress around 3.5gb iirc
[04:52] <decora> Zargle if you are going to reinstall,  just tell ubuntu to use the old ubuntu partition and write over it
[04:52] <mshade> jeiworth: incorrect.
[04:52] <jeiworth> mshade: ah reall?
[04:52] <jeiworth> really?
[04:52] <osirisx11> mshade: how can i get that?
[04:52] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm interested in finding a way to fix a broken package NIS(network information service) if anyone as any ideas I sure could use it.
[04:52] <mshade> jeiworth: yes. with PAE extensions you can address all memory
[04:52] <Zargle> so i put in the CD? and restart on my ubuntu partition
[04:53] <ironfoot495> I've worked on this for sometime now.
[04:53] <Zargle> and it should ask for reinstall? how do i get to reinstall section or hold C?
[04:53] <decora> Zargle: you might even try 'repair' function of livecd
[04:53] <jeiworth> mshade: ah ok, that was new, thanks, sorry osirisx11,i take it all back
[04:53] <Zargle> Hmm thanks :D
[04:53] <decora> zargle: can you boot osx?
[04:53] <Zargle> yes (on it)
[04:54] <decora> zargle: back up your data before you go further
[04:54] <Zargle> just Ubuntu said there were some drivers i needed to install.. and i did and they were for the new graphics card in this computer... And my screen froze and after a restart the screen went black
[04:54] <Colonel_Panik> naples_guy, think of the bash shell as built in bat files and almost programing ability with all the | < > symbols
[04:54] <Zargle> on my mac or Ubuntu?
[04:54] <decora> zargle: anywhere you had important data
[04:54] <Zargle> my mac side should be fine
[04:55] <Zargle> why would my mac side be any worry?
[04:55] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, i wanna try it out and see if i like it
[04:55] <mshade> osirisx11, jeiworth: see this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[04:55] <decora> because if you dont know what you are doing you might overwrite it
[04:55] <jongbergs> !welcome
[04:55] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, i just wanna see if i can do it without installing windows
[04:55] <cfedde> "what could possibly go wrong?"
[04:55] <decora> during the reinstall
[04:55] <osirisx11> mshade: ty
[04:55] <dave99> ok
[04:55] <jeiworth> mshade: thanks! nixcraft site kicks ass! :D
[04:56] <osirisx11> mshade: thanks!
[04:56] <dave99> hello everyone
[04:56] <Zargle> HEy
[04:56] <velix> nmap
[04:56] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: it's against the uula (or however it's spelled) for osx.. only apple/mac machines can run it legitamately.. nobody here will support helping with this project.
[04:56] <dave99> anyone here know anything  about dvb
[04:57] <decora> UULA --- uppity user license agreement
[04:57] <dave99> for ubuntu
[04:57] <ctmjr> dave99: what about it?
[04:57] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, i'll definitely not buy it unless i try it first, if i like it i'll buy a liscense
[04:57] <Zargle> alright well I will trya dn do that.. i dont think my mac side should be affected
[04:57]  * mahngiel high fives decora for originality
[04:57] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, if i can't try it out apple may be missing out on me lol
[04:57] <scunizi> UbuntuUser: you can't buy a license for osx..
[04:57] <badcom-wrk> EXT4 is default on Ubuntu?
[04:58] <dave99> are they any good ones out there
[04:58] <Colonel_Panik> UbuntuUser, best way to try out Ubuntu is to get an older cast off box, stick a bunch of memory in it and play with it *smile*
[04:58] <Zargle> scunizi: Hackintosh!
[04:58] <UbuntuUser> scunizi, i meant a copy
[04:58] <Jeruvy> badcom-wrk: for Karmic yes.
[04:58] <badcom-wrk> Jeruvy Karmic?
[04:59] <ctmjr> dave99: you mean dvb cards for tv ? or am i missing something
[04:59] <dave99> yes
[04:59] <iamkidrobot> hello world
[04:59] <Zargle> Hello iamkidrobot
[04:59] <Jeruvy> badcom-wrk: thats what the current version of ubuntu is called ;)
[05:00] <badcom-wrk> hmmm
[05:00] <Zargle> there was a baby that said then when he was born
[05:00] <badcom-wrk> ok.
[05:00] <Zargle> Youngest baby to talk
[05:00] <Zargle> he learned inside his mother... isnt that amazing
[05:00] <MoralExpl> Quick question, my "lock screen" doesn't work anymore where can I find an error log to figure out why it wont lock the screen?
[05:00] <decora> absolutely incredible.
[05:00] <iamkidrobot> what did the baby say?!
[05:00] <iamkidrobot> haha
[05:02] <decora> Moral: so it just never goes into screensaver mode? (btw logs are in /var/log but i doubt it will say anything
[05:02] <Colonel_Panik> the baby said " I remember going to a party with Mom and coming home with Dad"
[05:02] <iamkidrobot> hah
[05:02] <iamkidrobot> random
[05:02] <asdf25> i'm using karmic and my Alt key just stopped working for absolutely no reason, anyone know why?
[05:02] <Colonel_Panik> or is it going with Dad and coming home with mom
[05:02] <SirTwat> Ubuntu 9.10 Realtek 8111c Gigabit driver help needed!  It refuses to give gigabit speeds... please help.
[05:02] <MoralExpl> decora, that is true, I click on it and nothing happens. It started when I got some updates a few days ago...
[05:02] <raja> EXT4 is faulty and will corrupt big files i just lost 2 videos last night. its in the release notes
[05:03] <raja> on ubuntu 9,10
[05:03] <dAlfa89_> Does wubi install Grub by default?
[05:03] <decora> asdf25: because karmic is a steaming pile of dog pee?
[05:03] <Xodiac> raja: now my sound is buzzing when playing games it wierd the thing you had me to worked but now it buzzes and crackles
[05:03] <decora> Moral: so you cant log back in?
[05:03] <SirTwat> decora: you can't 'pile' a liquid
[05:04] <Xodiac> raja: it made my gameplay a lot smoother i just need to stop the buzzing
[05:04] <ctmjr> dave99: most cards are pretty much plug and play any more but this one is made for linux http://www.pchdtv.com/
[05:04] <dave99> kool
[05:04] <MoralExpl> decora, it doesn't even get to that point, I click on it nothing happens. If I click logout, it logs out if I click shutdown it shuts down.
[05:04] <SirTwat> can anyone help with a realtek nic driver issue?
[05:04] <dave99> ctmjr
[05:05] <MoralExpl> SirTwat, what type of realtek nic
 update your alsa drivers then. try that i worked for my GF.
[05:05] <raja> it*
[05:05] <dave99> ctmjr:can i pick up transponders here in the states
[05:05] <Xodiac> how do i update them
[05:05] <draco1234> raja, OMG you are dating your boss?
[05:05] <maco> draco1234: obviously meant "it"
[05:06] <SirTwat> draco1234: he corrected it too quickly :P
[05:06] <decora> Moral: honestly i think you should file a big huge bug report on it...
 i did 2 years ago it wa sa nightmare
[05:06] <draco1234> raja, true enough
[05:06] <MoralExpl> decora, okay, where at should I file this report?
[05:07] <Elladan> So, uh, pulseaudio.  Why do I have to run "killall pulseaudio" daily, if not hourly?
[05:07] <decora> MoralExpl: http://bugs.ubuntu.com and probably package gnome-screensaver
[05:07] <MoralExpl> decora, thank you
[05:07] <ctmjr> dave99: yes if your near the transmitters i live 45 miles from a major city and pick up 19 channels over the air plus regular cable
[05:07] <draco1234> Elladan, try a cron job
[05:07] <decora> Elladan: pulseaudio, ahh theres another fine piece of open source engineering..
[05:07] <Elladan> draco1234: Sadly I have a fullscreen program that *won't exit full screen* if pulseaudio crashes.
[05:07] <decora> im beginning to remember why i left these 'support' channels years ago
 go here (link) http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-upgrade-to-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu.html  but FIRST go to ALSA's site and see what is the latest files. and in Wget adjust file names accordingly
[05:08] <SirTwat> So.... can someone help me achieve some gigabit speeds?  I've searched the net thoroughly without bearing any fruit...  I've tried updating the driver, but I can't tell if it loaded or not...  I'm on 9.10 and the devicec is a Realtek 8111c
[05:08] <FlailingWalrus> Heres a nice random question for you all: How do you install linux ubuntu 9.10 from your computer without being able to access it and its installed inside of windows?
[05:08] <Xodiac> raja: okay
[05:08] <Elladan> decora: Well, I can't really blame the pulse people per se, since they didn't recommend anyone use it.
[05:09] <Elladan> decora: But uh, it's been a couple years, you'd think they could write a unit test or something by now.
[05:09] <SirTwat> FlailingWalrus: Do you have shell access?
[05:09] <raja> i hate pulseaudio .. i use esound insead .. pulse audio is a bit too buggy for me
[05:09] <FlailingWalrus> SirTwar: Yessir
[05:09] <draco1234> Elladan, can't you just remove pulseaudio?
[05:09] <decora> SirTwat: dmesg might tell you about drivers loading/unloading
[05:10] <Elladan> draco1234: I also tried that once, and some programs seemed to stop working.  SDL compatibility problem?  I dunno.
[05:10] <draco1234> SirTwat, is it possible the speed limitation is in a router you are using?
[05:11] <decora> SirTwat: are you using Monster (TM) cables with gold tips? The helpful experts at Best
[05:11] <Elladan> I don't really mind "a little bit buggy" but uh...  Where I work, if our audio playback daemon crashed and lost sound every day, that would be an ultimate maximum critical bug and people would be getting fired if we shipped an OS with it.  Much less three.
[05:11] <decora> Buy told me they speed up data rates
[05:12] <obiwan_> hi please i have questions about buying a good gaming 13" notebook, what channel could i ask at?
[05:12] <Elladan> SirTwat: Type "ip link eth0" or whatnot in a shell.
[05:13] <kantlivelong> hey all, what app is used by default when importing pix from a camera?
[05:13] <ctmjr> obiwan_: maybe #hardware ?
[05:13] <decora> obiwan: dont use linux for gaming
[05:13] <decora> obiwan: they cant even get sound working right
[05:13] <draco1234> obiwan_, you won't find a gaming laptop that small anyways
[05:13] <kantlivelong> lolz
[05:14] <kantlivelong> my gaming laptop is basically a portable server
[05:14] <kantlivelong> HUGE
[05:14] <sebsebseb> !games |  obiwan_  decora
[05:14] <ctmjr> decora: are yiu here just to bash linux?
[05:14] <decora> kantlivelong: theres F-spot photo manager
[05:14] <obiwan_> i tried there but they're not really updated in cutting edge notebooks
[05:14] <Reddman> I use a Thinkpad X61 tablet
[05:14] <Reddman> works great for just about everything i've thrown at it
[05:14] <kantlivelong> decora:  is that the default that opens when u hit import?
[05:14] <kantlivelong> decora: srry im not on an ubuntu box at the moment.. helping a friend
[05:14] <sebsebseb> obiwan_:  Elladan  you may find that pulseaudio works much better for you, in some other distro
[05:14] <decora> stmjr: in case you havent noticed ive been answering questions for several hours and been using linux since 1996 and ya know what? sound didnt work back then either.
[05:15] <sebsebseb> obiwan_:  Elladan if you try
[05:15] <decora> kantlivelong: ahh pretty much yes it is the default...
[05:15] <obiwan_> ubuntu it's not problem , wine exists, i'm interested in hardware things, the most important 4 me is finding a laptop with latest nvidia gtx 280m card, which i can only see in 17 laptops
[05:15] <dave99> what about dvb-s cards
[05:15] <kantlivelong> decora: thanks :)
[05:15] <kantlivelong> im a gentoo user myself
[05:15] <kantlivelong> just helpin a bug
[05:15] <decora> obiwan: how about this. stick with a cheap ass old laptop and give the money you save to starving orphans in china
[05:15] <draco1234> obiwan_, try http://www.alienware.com/
[05:15] <SirTwat> decora: I tried dmesg, it was wayyyyy too many results, i forgot how to narrow it down
[05:16] <sebsebseb> decora: oh should hve messaged that to you as well, see above
[05:16] <Reddman> this one has an intel gma 962 gfx chip, which runs stuff like compiz with the effects turned on to max no problem
[05:16] <decora> SirTwat: when you do 'rmmod' and 'modprobe', and run dmesg, the last message is often about drivers loading/unloading
[05:16] <SirTwat> draco1234:  I'm using a gigabit router w/ all cat5e cables... everything is ready computer/network side as gigabit
[05:16] <Reddman> it's nothing special, for a mobile GFX, but it gets the job done
[05:16] <decora> IM LLEAING NOWWWW BYE PEOPLE GOOD LUCK WITH IPOPEN SORES SOFTEWAREZZZ
[05:16] <kantlivelong> eww
[05:16] <kantlivelong> alientware
[05:16] <draco1234> decora, you're a starving orphan aren't you? nice try...
[05:16] <kantlivelong> obiwan_: go to avadirect.com muhc better
[05:17] <Reddman> One thing i learned the other day: if you are using kdenlive to edit video, the best thing to do is convert all the raw format vids to mpeg.  Kdenlive just works with mpeg better
[05:17] <oleo> heh, open sores, what a redneck
[05:17] <Kozi> how do I get flash working on a web browser
[05:17] <SirTwat> elladan: iplink shows it to be gigabit
[05:17] <Reddman> doesn't even crash when i do that
[05:17] <Elladan> SirTwat: What about the other computer on your switch you're measuring against?
[05:17] <obiwan_> draco i tried alienware, and they don't have 13 inch laptops, it's a must for me it's 13.3 at most, cause i hate 15.4+ laps, they 're so heavy...
[05:17] <obiwan_> thanx kantlivelong
[05:18] <Reddman> Kozi: synaptic, make sure all the repositories are checked, and search for 'flash'
[05:18] <Reddman> i think
[05:18] <Jordan_U> dAlfa89_: Depends on what you mean. It uses grub, yes, but it does not replace ntldr or Bootmgr and instead adds an entry to one or the other ( depending on what version of windows ) that loads grub from a regular file in your windows partition
[05:18] <Reddman> actually, i'm not sure if i even had to install flash...
[05:18] <Kozi> search where?
[05:18]  * Reddman checks
[05:18] <dave99> ! dvb
[05:18] <Reddman> synaptic package manager
[05:18] <kantlivelong> obiwan_: np.. i have the Clevo laptop
[05:18] <Reddman> in the search thing at the top
[05:18] <SirTwat> elladan: Transferring via Samba from a Windows 7 machine, and it shows as a gigabit connection... everything 'look'
[05:18] <Reddman> give me a sec though
[05:18] <Reddman> i might be wrong
[05:18] <anttu> anyone got zte mf636 working in 9.10?
[05:19] <kantlivelong> obiwan_: they support SLI
[05:19] <gorgonzola> Kozi sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:19] <Reddman> this is a new install, so i can check real fast
[05:19] <ctmjr> dave99: there are cards for dvb-s i do not know which ones replace the sat box
[05:19] <SirTwat> elladan: Transferring via Samba from a Windows 7 machine, and it shows as a gigabit connection... everything 'looks' right.  I have been able to achieve gigabit speeds, but it comes and goes
[05:19] <Reddman> yea, that works too gorgonzola :D
[05:19] <Elladan> SirTwat: Don't use samba to bench, use ttcp or something
[05:19] <Elladan> SirTwat: Or ftp
[05:19] <draco1234> obiwan_, I had an idea to save weight. Get a 15" laptop, and then throw the battery in the garbage. It won't last long for a powerful laptop anyways, and now it weighs less!
[05:19] <gorgonzola> Kozi or, if you do not want to use the shell, you can go into Synpatic, and search for flashplugin-nonfree, and install from there.
[05:20] <SirTwat> Elladan: By deafult, does ubuntu 9.10 server have ftp installed, if not what package is it?
[05:20] <Elladan> SirTwat: I don't think so.
[05:20] <adhit-lagi> sgs
[05:20] <Jordan_U> obiwan_: http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=28
[05:20] <Elladan> SirTwat: It has ssh though, try using scp to bench
[05:20] <Kozi> ok
[05:20] <Elladan> SirTwat: Or rsync over ssh
[05:20] <SirTwat> Elladan: what about sftp?
[05:21] <Elladan> SirTwat: The SMB protocol is just very noisy, I wouldn't use it for network link tests.
[05:21] <Reddman> i've been using the ultimate edition for ubuntu, and that came with flash
[05:21] <Elladan> SirTwat: That's fine
[05:21] <Kozi> By the way what was the command to cleanup packages once they were installed?
[05:21] <Reddman> just went to a standard 9.1 install tonight
[05:21] <Reddman> but yea, the apt-get method IS technically the fastest way to do it
[05:21] <Elladan> SirTwat: ssh/scp/sftp are all just sending data very cleanly in one direction without a lot of overhead like SMB/CIFS.
[05:21] <draco1234> Reddman, Nine.point.ten
[05:21] <Reddman> yea yea
[05:21] <obiwan_> kantlivelong: i have looked at a 13.3" dell one with 8 ram gigs, 2.6 c2d @ 1066 fsb, and a nvidia 210m 512 mb, but i'm not sure if that'll work for some games like crysis, cod and so, : S i'd be great if i find some one with a gtx 280 m cause in reviews for 15&17 inch laps they say it works perfect
[05:21] <ron-l-j>  "The most important tip I can offer to new users is to learn the command line. If you are limited to the GUIs, you see the system through a glass,darkly" Richard Stallman
[05:21] <Elladan> SirTwat: http would be fine too
[05:22] <sleek> hi, when i'm installing ubuntu, it freezes during the "copying files" portion of the install .. what can I check or change to help solve this problem?
[05:22] <Reddman> putting the extra zero on a decimal seems kinda redundant :D
[05:22] <gorgonzola> Kozi i don't know what you mean. maybe sudo apt-get autoremove? adding --purge to any remove or autoremove will also remove conf files.
[05:22] <ron-l-j> sleek Check your disc for errors
[05:22] <MNI940> Hello, when I log into my ubunutu 9.04 I get this extremely annoying beeping sound, it's not system beep as I disabled it. I  have a HP Pavilion DV4. Can anyone please help me.
[05:22] <ron-l-j> sleek your install disc
[05:22] <sleek> ron-l-j: i did, no errors.
[05:22] <gorgonzola> Redman it's not a decimal :)
[05:22] <draco1234> Reddman, Yes, but it's not acting as a decimal, it is just a separator
[05:22] <Kozi> yeah autoremove
[05:23] <GamerKnight> hey people
[05:23] <Reddman> i know
[05:23] <dhiaeldeen1> how can i compile this for ubuntu ? , http://www.cast3d.org/download
[05:23] <obiwan_> draco1234: that's a good one, but i don't like big laps either, it's so uncomfortable to walk along with them
[05:23] <sleek> ron-l-j: i tried 2 different optical drives, 3 different hdds, 2 different ide cables
[05:23] <Reddman> i think my client might be taking it off too
[05:23] <oleo> @Kozi sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[05:23] <GamerKnight> trying to run this command "sudo boot/extlinux/extlinux --install boot/extlinux/" and i am getting this error "boot/extlinux/ is device /dev/sd"
[05:23] <Reddman> test 9.10 test
[05:23] <Reddman> nope
[05:23] <Reddman> it's just me
[05:23] <Reddman> :D
[05:23] <FloodBot5> Reddman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <GamerKnight> any help would be nice. i am trying to make a partition bootable
[05:23] <ron-l-j> sleek thats nuts !
[05:24] <SirTwat> Elladan: SFTP is trans at 5.4MB/s :(
[05:24] <ron-l-j> msleek have you tried a usb instal ?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: What are you trying to accomplish?
[05:24] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: any help would be nice. i am trying to make a partition bootable
[05:24] <sleek> ron-l-j: i haven't ... that's a good idea though ... i'd have to find a flash drive or something that can connect via usb
[05:24] <ron-l-j> sleek usb maybe its the communitaction purt on the computer\
[05:25] <dhiaeldeen1> how can i compile this for ubuntu ? , http://www.cast3d.org/download , thanks ...
[05:25] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: I mean what is your real goal, i.e. why do you want to "make a partition bootable" ?
[05:25] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: basicly i have copyed a custom linux setup to that partition and now i need to write the Partition Boot Record to make it bootable
[05:25] <SirTwat> Elladan: any ideas?
[05:25] <Elladan> SirTwat: Hmm, actually I just realized ssh might be cpu limited too
[05:25] <Reddman> I keep forgetting to look for a clipboard daemon of some sort
[05:25] <draco1234> GamerKnight, have you seen this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:25] <Elladan> SirTwat: FTP/http/ttcp are really the best stream tests.
[05:25] <Reddman> tired of loosing copy/paste data when i close something
[05:25] <SirTwat> checking top doesnt show very much cpu usage
[05:25] <grease> Hi .. is there a way I can know the rpm of my hardrive (short of opening my laptop and reading the specs on it)
[05:26] <Elladan> SirTwat: But anyway, so just checking, but these are both plugged into the same gigE switch right?
[05:26] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Why not just run "sudo update-grub" which should add an entry for it in grub ( if you are using 9.10 / grub2 )?
[05:26] <Elladan> SirTwat: And the MTU isn't an issue?
[05:26] <Reddman> grease: is it listed in the bios?
[05:26] <Orgy> I'm running with a small amount of ram. What services can i shutdown to use less ram?
[05:26] <GamerKnight> draco1234: i will have a read through it now. but the command i typed in should work right?
[05:26] <GamerKnight> draco1234: sudo boot/extlinux/extlinux --install boot/extlinux
[05:27] <SirTwat> Elladan:  Yes, same switch, and both show GIG-E connectivity on router (green is for gige, orange is for 100mb)  both show gig-e connectivity in os: (windows 7 & ubuntu's ethtool)
[05:27] <grease> Reddman: haven't checked it ... was hoping to find a way w/o having to restart :)
[05:27] <Reddman> ahh, i found something...
[05:27] <Reddman> hold on
[05:27] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Installing a bootloader to a partition has some interesting reliability issues and it doesn't seem like it's at all neccisary ( or even the easiest way ) to install a bootloader to that partition
[05:27] <dhiaeldeen1> guys can you hear me ? :(
[05:27] <Reddman> http://www.linuxinsight.com/how_fast_is_your_disk.html
[05:27] <Reddman> try that
[05:28] <Reddman> seems to have information on how to benchmark your drives
[05:28] <draco1234> GamerKnight, I think the part after "--install" hads to be the device, not the folder where the device is mounted
[05:28] <Reddman> i can't hear anything... i can see you tho
[05:28] <gorgonzola> grease you can find your hd manufacturer and model with hdparm
[05:28] <grease> Reddman: thanks, will try
[05:28] <hawk_> lol @ Reddman
[05:28] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: ok, if it make any difference i am following the tutorial off the partition magic website. so i can boot there software from a partition.
[05:28] <gorgonzola> grease: sudo hdparm -i /path/to/drive
[05:28] <Reddman> i hear the tickling of keyboard keys ^.^
[05:28] <SirTwat> Elladan:  I've scoured the internet for solutions and it seems a considerable amount of people have had this problem and fixed it, but didnt post a solution.
[05:29] <mondragon> Is there a website anywhere that documents what hardware on what netbooks works with linux?
[05:29] <Reddman> mondragon: anything will just about
[05:29] <Elladan> SirTwat: Do you have traffic shaping turned on?
[05:29] <Orgy> does anyone know what i can do to make my computer faster? I have 256 gb ram (running alternated ubuntu 9.10) and have already done swapdisk (2.5gb-seperate harddrive)
[05:29] <mondragon> reddman: ok, that works too.. :-)
[05:29] <Reddman> a friend of mine runs 9.10 on a acer aspire one
[05:29] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: my end goal is to use this software of the partition to make a hfs+ volumn on my harddrive and install the refit on it. refit must be install on a hfs+ partition other wise it does not work
[05:29] <SirTwat> Elladan: I'm not sure what that is
[05:29] <Reddman> linux seems to be VERY atom friendly
[05:29] <mondragon> reddman: yeah, there's some really good deals on Aspire One bundles right now
[05:29]  * Reddman nods
[05:30] <Reddman> it's a great machine
[05:30] <NightEyes1> Does anyone know how to access the no-ip program to make changes after it's been installed
[05:30] <SirTwat> Orgy = Troll
[05:30] <Reddman> has that sexy plastic that attracts fingerprints like a hard drive magnet atracts fake gold
[05:30] <mondragon> reddman: You know if they can book off of usb sticks?
[05:30] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: i can understand this is a long way round but it has to be hfs+ and i need to keep the other partitions on the harddrive intact. also i have not blank cds left
[05:30] <mondragon> reddman: boot, even
[05:30] <Reddman> yep
[05:30] <Reddman> they have to
[05:30] <Orgy> how am i a troll?
[05:30] <Reddman> no optical drive
[05:30] <mondragon> reddman: I've heard that about the plastic.. :-)
[05:30] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: You can create an hfs file system within linux ( I am pretty sure rEFIt will work from hfs )
[05:30] <mondragon> reddman: yeah, it's just that Dell says you might need to buy an optical drive for theirs for "system recovery" which sounded absurd
[05:31] <maco> Orgy: could you please use a more family-friendly nick?
[05:31] <SirTwat> Orgy: Maybe not, buying buying more ram isn't going to hurt anything
[05:31] <Reddman> i run a lenovo thinkpad x61 that has no CD/DVD drive at all, it litterally HAS to boot from the USB to get it's OS data
[05:31] <mondragon> reddman: But I suppose that really means "yes, idiot, you can't stick your windows CD in here"
[05:31] <Reddman> lol
[05:31] <Reddman> well, in so many words
[05:31] <linuxguy2009> Any Dell Mini 10v owners here?
[05:31] <Elladan> SirTwat: I don't know what the problem is.  If you have a third computer I'd recommend doing some tests with it to isolate the problem.
[05:31] <Orgy> maco-i don't want to --sirtwat-thanks for the advice
[05:31] <maco> SirTwat: you too on the family-friendly nick thing
[05:32] <maco> !ops | Orgy and SirTwat have very family un-friendly nicks
[05:32] <Reddman> i don't own one, but i've seen dell mini's do all kinds of neat things... from running linux to running OSX
[05:32] <Elladan> SirTwat: You might also check for evidence of bad cables (packet errors etc.) and weirdness with Windows 7.
[05:32] <SirTwat> Elladan:  lol... i do have a 3rd, and between the other computers, gige works fine... it just this linux box that is casing me problems
[05:32] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: it says has to be hfs+ plus, i have been trying all day to get this to work. the best method for me would be manualy creating the Partition Boot Record this way anyway
[05:32] <gorgonzola> maco i think you are exagerating
[05:32] <draco1234> NightEyes1, try typing:  sudo no-ip -C
[05:32] <ron-l-j> Has anyone seen moblin ?
[05:32] <ron-l-j> great on my betbook
[05:32] <Orgy> maco-maybe we want them. and it should'nt really bother anyone if we do have unfriendly like nicks. it's not like our nicks are (macogay3)
[05:33] <SirTwat> Elladan:  I've done all of the normal troubleshooting, and replaced all cables as well... I can't pin it down which is why I am here :)
[05:33] <Reddman> but yea, unetbootin + USB stick + linux = win on netbooks
[05:33] <ron-l-j> how many users under 12 in here ?
[05:33] <bigmack83_> in windows, can i use a program like cygwin to ssh or otherwise use my ubuntu install from another partition?
[05:33] <maco> Orgy: its not like "gay" is an insult either. however, we have rules in here about family-friendly language. thatd put swear words and sexual things right out.
[05:33] <linuxguy2009> Well Ill just ask, Dell sells the Mini 10v's with 8.04 installed. I am reverting back to 8.04.3 and installed it with my Dell DVDRW USB drive. wireless works fine, but no sound. Anyone know why or how to fix it?
[05:33] <ron-l-j> Reddman yes also the python image dreator
[05:34] <ron-l-j> creator
[05:34] <Orgy> fine. i'll go to my second nick
[05:34] <Reddman> i was trying to get BCCD to work with unetbootin on a USB stick, to no avail
[05:34] <ron-l-j> who care what your Nick IS
[05:34] <arghh2d2> Orgy: you're just acting out to get some kind of attention...sad
[05:34] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Linux can read, write, and create hfs+ file systems but only without journaling ( which you can enable after the fact )
[05:34] <ron-l-j> hahahahah
[05:34] <gorgonzola> bigmack83 you can;t run both systems at the same time in the same machine. if you need access to files, you might want to look into an ext driver for windows. i don;t understand why you owuld need cygwin
[05:34] <Reddman> i want to set up a live-boot cluster
[05:34] <Reddman> :)
[05:34] <Elladan> SirTwa: Sorry I can't be more help.
[05:34] <draco1234> maco, how do you think families get created in the first place?
[05:35] <dAlfa89_> maco: I'm not defending anybody, but "Orgy" can be used in literature to define a mass congregation or such, so not always having sexual connotations
[05:35] <gorgonzola> maco: Orgy is not necesarilly a sexual word. i think you are exagerating.
[05:35] <SirTwa> Reddman: I heard cluster knopix is pretty good :)
[05:35] <Reddman> yea, i need to play with that
[05:35] <ron-l-j> gorgonzola Cigwin is great for compiling code in a winblows enviroment
[05:35] <Reddman> i have 5 linux machines right now, one windows (for gaming)
[05:35] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Do you have an Ubuntu LiveCD or a flash drive you can put the LiveCD image on?
[05:35] <Elladan> SirTwa: You might try looking for a better stream test though.  I think my ssh suggestion was probably bad.
[05:35] <SirTwa> Reddman:  I messed with it a little bit at my work.. it was awesome... what are you supposed to do with 50 extra pc's laying around?
[05:35] <Reddman> i was ust going to make up 6 USB sticks with a clustering OS
[05:35] <osirisx11> mshade: just wanted to report i am now using PAE successfully, and it can see all my ram! thank you!
[05:35] <Reddman> lol
[05:36] <Kozi> If i need to do some web development on linux are there any tools like bbedit?
[05:36] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j fair enough, but why would he need it to "ssh or otherwise use" his ;inux partition from windows, supposedly in the same machine?
[05:36] <cfedde> what makes a clustering os different from the usual type?
[05:36] <Zacdee316> dalfa89-thanks for defending the nick, but i've already changed it
[05:36] <Reddman> my idea is to make a cluster for mencoder/kdenlive
[05:36] <dksoba88> Hi, I just rebooted my 9.10 install and X didn't start, and a console login was there but flashing... not sure what happened but I can't even log in
[05:36] <Elladan> SirTwa: If you have an ftp server installed on one of the other boxes, or an http server, you could try downloading on the linux side.
[05:36] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: ok that sounds the best method then, but that is not the only reason why i wish to write the boot sector manualy. i looked in gparted and i could not see a hfs volumn could you please adivse me. i know there is a  similar terminal command that will do it. could you tell me what it is
[05:36] <Reddman> i do a lot of video editing, and encoding video faster is a big goal of this plan
[05:36] <SirTwa> Elladan: Thanks for your help, I don't think stream test was the issue as I've been able to achieve gig-e speeds before (today even)  it just cuts in and out.
[05:36] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: You need to install hfsprogs before the option will show up in gparted
[05:36] <Elladan> SirTwa: Ah ok.
[05:37] <dksoba88> So now I'm booting off a USB drive, I think the error has something to do with crytodrive or something, but that error message only flashed up once and I didn't get to read the whole thing
[05:37] <ron-l-j> gorgonzola I see yes if you format it to fat 32 both systems should read it no problem
[05:37] <Elladan> SirTwa: I was just worried that smb/cifs isn't an accurate stream test.  It should go faster than 100gbit in any case though.
[05:37] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: You can install hfsprogs ( and rEFIt ) from apt/synaptic in the LiveCD session
[05:37] <Elladan> SirTwa: There are various flags you can try changing via ifconfig.
[05:37] <om26er> where is the log of installed components and their dependencies
[05:37] <om26er> ?
[05:37] <Jeruvy> SirTwa: Can't say I have any better advise, but you could try ntop to measure your network.
[05:38] <SirTwa> Jeruvy:  What does ntop do?
[05:38] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: you mean the bootable mac dvd, i thought refit requires that you bless it
[05:38] <Jeruvy> SirTwa: its like top for your network
[05:38] <gorgonzola> SirTwa: man ntop?
[05:38] <ron-l-j> i always say make a /HOME partition in fat 32 for a dual boot or a file transfer back up
[05:38] <draco1234> om26er, type: dpkg -l
[05:38] <SirTwa> ah, i usually use iftop
[05:39] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j i wouldn't recommend that, as fat 32 has no permissions, to begin with, and doesn;t support files larger than 4gb to continue
[05:39] <Chorch> ron-l-j,
[05:39] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: rEFIt can bless from linux too IIRC ( I am pretty sure I installed it from Ubuntu on my machine )
[05:39] <arghh2d2> ron-l-j: i never say that...fat32 is lame
[05:39] <ron-l-j> you can use NTFS but you can boot fat 32 as well
[05:39] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j if you absolutely require a partition to be read from both os, you should definitevily go with ntfs, or, if there is a decent driver for windows for some other fs, that one.
[05:39] <Kozi> Any good text-editors for webdevelopment out there?
[05:40] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: th is is
[05:40] <ron-l-j> so if you need windows to boot a solid state drive you plug in fat 32 works
[05:40] <om26er> i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras on 64bit and had a mass- match hash so i changed the mirror now i cannot find the package that was mismatched and i want to install it. its related to libc6-i386
[05:40] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: this is the only real command inside the enable.sh file. inside the refit dir "sudo bless --folder "$DIR" --file "$DIR/$LOADERNAME" --labelfile "$DIR/refit.vollabel""
[05:40] <Reddman> fat32 seems to be more linux friendly than ntfs, i noticed
[05:40] <ron-l-j> and over 4 gigs would mostly be media
[05:40] <om26er> and its i think 29mb+
[05:40] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j i really don't understand why you would prefer fat32. care to explain?
[05:40] <arghh2d2> ron-l-j: don't need windows .
[05:41] <om26er> where can i find the terminal log
[05:41] <dksoba88> where can I find any errors from booting up?
[05:41] <Reddman> i have a usb hard drive formatted ntfs, if it's not unmounted properly in windows (ejected), it won't connect in linux properly
[05:41] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: and bless is a mac only command, although i think the people who are working on grub2 are trying to create an opensource version. i could be wrong though. if you  know how that would be great. i have been trying this all night trying to get refit to install
[05:41] <ron-l-j> gorgonzola I use it to make bootable flash drives I can use anywhere
[05:41] <mattcen> om26er: Apt stores a log in /var/log/apt/term.log
[05:41] <Reddman> fat 32 formatted drives don't care
[05:41] <om26er> Matt1360, thanx
[05:41] <ron-l-j> So you can boot and load your os and your work files or code anywhere
[05:41] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: thanks alot for you time, it mean alot
[05:41] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j and you can't do that with ntfs?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: The grub2 people are also working on grub2 as a replacement for rEFIt :)
[05:42] <ron-l-j> older windows willnot boot ntfs
[05:42] <gorgonzola> Reddman if its just for mounting, you can always use --force to mount a locked ntfs volume
[05:42] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: np
[05:42] <ron-l-j> think old servers
[05:43] <gorgonzola> ron-l-j, ok, i grant that. but you gotta reckon that's a pretty fringe case, and not a good reason to recomend someone to format his /home in fat. :P
[05:43] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: thats cool, refit sucks, its got some really nice features. but its so dependend on mac crap that it makes it such a problem. i run macbook pro. but i would never run osx unless i didnt have a choice
[05:43] <Reddman> true
[05:43] <draco1234> Kozi, I've heard good things about "bluefish"
[05:43] <Reddman> but fat32 is just less of a PITA than NTFS ussually :)
[05:43] <mneptok>  /home should be formatted as a Linux FS so that permissions work as expected.
[05:43] <ron-l-j> Some linux boxes need ntfs support to read as well so if you want an OOB read 32 will work
[05:44] <SirTwa> !rules
[05:44] <SirTwa> rules
[05:44] <gorgonzola> Reddman until you start happily coping your media to your brand new hd, and 200gb into it, you try to copy that damn 4.3 gb iso.
[05:44] <Reddman> yea
[05:44] <gorgonzola> Reddman: not nice.
[05:44] <dAlfa89_> The clue is in the name, NTFS was built for NT based versions of Windows, it's a proprietary format and therefore generally unsupported by Linux (From memory, might've changed since I last took a look)
[05:44] <Reddman> i have flash drives that are permenently set up as fat32, and i have to make multipart zips for stuff like that
[05:44] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: if i run this command "cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdb" or somthing like this. will this over write the GPT table with a MBR or will it just overwrite the MBR on the second sector of the disk
[05:45] <gorgonzola> dAlfa89_ we've had read and write support for ntfs for years now. performance sucks, though.
[05:45] <Reddman> i just have a fileserver for most of that work though
[05:45] <ron-l-j> CAT will not over write just read
[05:45] <Reddman> freeBSD system in my basement full of hard drives
[05:45] <Reddman> set it, forget it
[05:45] <ron-l-j> if youwant to over write use Gedit
[05:45] <kraut> moin
[05:45] <gorgonzola> Redmann: it is trivial to convert fat32 to ntfs without formating
[05:45] <dAlfa89_> gorgonzola: I know, but it's still generally not recommended, right?
[05:45] <gorgonzola> Redmann: any windows box can do that.
[05:45] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: That will overwrite the GPT table ( I think at least )
[05:45] <ron-l-j> I like free bsd and opesolaris
[05:46] <seravitae> hm, is au.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:46] <mneptok> ron-l-j: see the > in the command GamerKnight gave
[05:46] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: yer it should do. what i might do is use dd to push the mbr back to the the first sector of the disk
[05:47] <ron-l-j> yeah output extractor
[05:47] <ron-l-j> >>
[05:47] <draco1234> ron-l-j, actually, "cat" will be overwriting in his example since he is redirecting its output with >
[05:47] <mneptok> ron-l-j: you just appended
[05:47] <gorgonzola> dAlfa89_ weeeeelll... you know how those things are. is not recomended because the driver is not friendly, it's a watered down vbersion of a better commercial driver, and its generally not very efficient. but if you totally *need* to read from both os, you should go with it over fat32
[05:47] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: ok i am going to try this cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdb3 i think that should give me a MBR but only of the thrid partion right?
[05:47] <jongbergs> seravitae: try to ping au.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <ron-l-j> I perfer not to redirect out put and edit with gedit
[05:47] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:47] <ron-l-j> i get less errors
[05:47] <ron-l-j> :D
[05:47] <ron-l-j> thats just me
[05:48] <dAlfa89_> gorgonzola: That's what I do, XP on NTFS, Ubuntu on EXT3
[05:48] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: The grub you have installed already can do anything that syslinux could do, and I am pretty sure you can't have an MBR on a partition
[05:48] <arghh2d2> gorgonzola: arent there windows drivers for reading ext2/3/4 drives?
[05:48] <ron-l-j> will sudo grub-install work ?
[05:48] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: If you have the syslinux.conf I can tell you what to add as a grub menu entry to do the same thing
[05:48] <dAlfa89_> Also, Grub is better than the Windows bootloader \o/
[05:49] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: HAHAHA this command looks so cool "cat /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdb" in the terminal. yer i am not sure it will work either. but partitions can have there own bootloads not sure if its the same as the MBR might be a smaller version
[05:49] <mneptok> ron-l-j: so how would you recreate "ls -Rla / > ~/fs_contents" in gEdit?
[05:49] <GamerKnight> ron-l-j: maybe do basicly i just want to make a partition boot able. i have copyed a basic linux version on to an ext3 partition.
[05:50] <draco1234> mneptok, easy: type "ls -Rla /" in terminal, select the output, copy, open gedit, paste
[05:50] <GamerKnight> ron-l-j: now i want to make it boot able when i select that partion
[05:50] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Again, try just running "sudo update-grub" and see if it adds a menu entry to load the linux system on that partition
[05:50] <ron-l-j> grub-install /dev/    hd1 or sda1
[05:50] <mneptok> draco1234: in most cases the screen buffer will fill before the outpur is complete.
[05:50] <arghh2d2> if your gonna use an inferior os like windows might as well get the drivers to read linux filesystems, performance might suffer but your gonna be suffering windows anyway
[05:51] <gorgonzola> arghh2d2: yes. there are. but if i remember correctly, they stopped working with newer versions of ext3/4. haven't looked into it in a long time, though.
[05:51] <ron-l-j> most operating systems don't tell GRUB how to map BIOS drives to OS devices correctly—GRUB merely guesses the mapping. This will succeed in most cases, but not always. Therefore, GRUB provides you with a map file called the device map, which you must fix if it is wrong
[05:51] <gorgonzola> arghh2d2: i remember it was something like windows only supports 128bit filesystems, and newer exts were 256, ort something like that.
[05:51] <draco1234> mneptok, haha, now you're just nitpicking. You know that can be adjusted
[05:52] <arghh2d2> gorgonzola: yeah, who knows? not me, i dont use M$ garbage
[05:52] <examplejohn> I think I have all the samba stuff installed I can see my windows machines, but every time I try to access the shares I cannot see them, I get a username and password prompt, but I do not have either? any ideas?
[05:53] <ron-l-j> I have to work with server 2008. It is F***ing retarded
[05:54] <pfak> How do you add driver options in Ubuntu 9.10? I used to put them in /etc/modprobe/options but that no longer works, and neither does adding a .conf at the end of the file. Im trying to set two config options for e1000e nic, I even tried adding it to kopt but I get a "Unknown boot option `e1000e.InterruptThrottleRate=0': ignoring" error on boot. Anyone have an idea of how to set options on a driver?
[05:54] <arghh2d2> ron-l-j: yeah, sounds retarded. your boss is retarded for buying that crap.
[05:55] <draco1234> pfak, isn't the correct folder modprobe.d ?
[05:55] <pfak> Pardon me, I meant modprobe.d
[05:56] <dksoba88> Hi. I'm getting this error upon boot, acompanied with flashing console login screen: http://pastebin.com/d33f109c7
[05:56] <dksoba88> Can someone please help me?
[05:57] <draco1234> pfak, ubuntu 9.10?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Do you have a flash drive?
[05:58] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: yes
[05:58] <ron-l-j> meptok R>E> so how would you recreate "ls -Rla / > ~/fs_contents" in gEdit?      I would use   python import os   os.popen(file)      os.write(destination file)
[05:58] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Or an Ubuntu LiveCD
[05:58] <mkulumadzi> hey, question for the group
[05:58] <mkulumadzi> upgraded a server to 9.10
[05:58] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: both i am running from the live cd now.
[05:58] <mad> Hey guys!
[05:58] <arghh2d2> question on one line, dont flood
[05:58] <mkulumadzi> getting the 'cannot load root device error' mentioned here:
[05:58] <mneptok> ron-l-j: that's using a bomb to kill a mosquito
[05:58] <mkulumadzi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades
[05:58] <pfak> 9.04*
[05:58] <pfak> Sigh, tired..
[05:59] <ron-l-j> mneptok yes I am a bomber I could yse the writeline cammands as well
[05:59] <dAlfa89_> The graphics drivers don't affect the kernel, do they? Restarting X would be fine, right?
[05:59] <dksoba88> (BTW I'm running 9.10)
[05:59] <ron-l-j> my command fu is ok my ubuntu fu is better but I am just a padawan
[05:59] <Hawk1> dalfa89_ yea, should be fine to just restart x
[05:59] <mad> I have some .isos that refuse to mount, archive manager says CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[06:00] <ron-l-j> python is where it is at for me
[06:00] <mkulumadzi> sorry, will keep this question on one line, server is stuck after upgrading to  9.10, i see the fix in the link i pasted above, but the keyboard does not load.  we are stuck on (initramts)
[06:00] <dAlfa89_> Hoorah, thanks Hawk1
[06:00] <mneptok> ron-l-j: cat > is the path of least resistance
[06:00] <ron-l-j> besause I can write code in the dreaded .NET oh no
[06:00] <wilcoxjay> can anyone who knows about sound help me figure out how I can fix this or provide info to someone who knows how to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/477752
[06:00] <Hawk1> dAlfa89_ and if it doesn't, then you can just reboot
[06:00] <ron-l-j> I will man cat
[06:01] <arghh2d2> bash is where it's at for me...im not trying to write whole programs
[06:01] <dragon> Can I allocate space for swap from an LVM partition?
[06:01] <Cheph9000> hey I'm Having trubble booting.  when i upgraded to 9.10 I accedentally left the 9.10 live cd in the disck trey, now when i boot i get this error after grub but befor the login screen "init: mountall main process (909) terminated with status 3 mount of filesystem failed". Any ideas?
[06:01] <dAlfa89_> Hawk1: would I be right in saying that anything that doesn't touch the kernel shouldn't require a restart, right? I'm gonna be doing some admin'ing of my home server from school, so the less need to reboot the better
[06:01] <ron-l-j> I like bash but I need to again make it "GO" on M$ 2008
[06:02] <ron-l-j> propritary land sucks
[06:02] <dragon> Cheph9000: remove the CD and reboot
[06:02] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:02] <dragon> !ot | ron-l-j
[06:02] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: I can walk you through installing rEFIt from the LiveCD then ( though it looks like you do still need to use OSX for bless )
[06:02] <Hawk1> dAlpha89_ i believe you are correct. So simply restarting your x-server should work :)
[06:02] <Cheph9000> dragon: i tried that but same error
[06:03] <dAlfa89_> Hawk1: Thanks, this admin stuff should be easy  ;D
[06:03] <ron-l-j> is python on ubuntu not support ? it is built in as default.
[06:03] <ron-l-j> :D
[06:03] <Hawk1> dAlpha89_ no worries man
[06:04] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: i have osx 10.4 cd i have osx 10.5 cd and i have refit. i just dont have any blank cds
[06:04] <draco1234> pfak, well, all I can do is point you here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1276211&page=4
[06:04] <arghh2d2> ron-l-j: yeah, you should just beat your boss or your teacher with a blunt object...who in their right mind doesnt realize by 2008 that linux is safe and secure and FREE...and buys MS server 2008? pfffft bleck~
[06:04] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: You have everything you need then
[06:04] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: ( More than you need actually )
[06:04] <mad> I'm having troubles mounting a DVD .iso. Archive Manager says "CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format", a manual mount produces this "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0", dmesg | tail shows: "ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format" Any ideas?
[06:05] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: yes bit i am having trobble getting them all to work. maybe its becuase i donnt know what i am doing
[06:05] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: hahha
[06:05] <indus> hello all
[06:05] <pfak> draco1234: my nic is detected fine
[06:05] <Hawk1> indus: hello
[06:05] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: how can i make an hfs+ volumn in ubuntu
[06:05] <shyam_k> i was wondering if there was _any_ way to specify two different user autologin from grub!
[06:06] <draco1234> pfak, ah, sorry then. If you've already added a .conf on the end of the file, I've got nothing
[06:06] <shyam_k> i mean two different user logins from the same partition
[06:06] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: First in the liveCD run "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install hfsprogs refit"
[06:07] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: does software-properties-gtk -e universe auto add universe to the repos??
[06:07] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Yes
[06:07] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: cool. and the last command will just install refit??
[06:07] <wilcoxjay> is there anyone who knows about the sound system can point me in the right direction to learn about this sort of issue and how to resolve it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/477752
[06:07] <wzssyqa> i have install 9.10 to a remaoveable harddisk
[06:07] <wzssyqa> but it cannot boot
[06:08] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: do i have to run it, or config it after. i am guessing yes
[06:08] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: It will install support for creating hfsplus partitions and the files for refit
[06:08] <wzssyqa> and when use boot command of grub to boot it ,then say no such device
[06:09] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: You will then have to create the hfsplus partition in gparted, copy the refit files over to it, and bless it
[06:09] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: your the MAN!!!
[06:09] <examplejohn> please help..... samba problems anyone?
[06:09] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: will i do hfs+ or just hfs. i think both might work as u said
[06:10] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: Do hfs+ ( both should work though )
[06:10] <shyam_k> wzssyqa: does "find /boot/grub/stage1" say about that partition? say if it is sda7 this command will show you (hd0,6)
[06:11] <seidos> how can i figure out how acpi determines how much charge my battery has?
[06:11] <wzssyqa> shyam_k: o ,when use grub2's ls.it display no (hd1,x)
[06:11] <draco1234> seidos, acpi looks right inside it
[06:12] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: That's a known but in the Ubuntu installer, you need to either manually choose your external drive as the place to install grub or install grub to the external drive manually afterward
[06:12] <shyam_k> wzssyqa: ah. sorry.. i am still with an older grub.:(
[06:12] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: Basically it installed grub to your internal hard drive instead of your external
[06:12] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: i have do it
[06:12] <mad> Can anyone help me mount a DVD .iso?
[06:13] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: when installing ,i choose sdb
[06:13] <seidos> draco1234: i think my acpi is spooked
[06:13] <draco1234> pfak, your kernel option started with a # right?
[06:13] <pfak> yes ..
[06:13] <losha> Mad: from what you've said above, it sounds to me like your iso is corrupted. What is it and where did it come from?
[06:13] <draco1234> seidos, old batteries give pretty unreliable information I've found
[06:14] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: where does the refit files get put by default
[06:14] <seidos> draco1234:  how old is old?
[06:14] <mad> losha: It's not corrupted, it works on my windows machine just fine :(
[06:14] <maco> seidos: a few years...
[06:14] <draco1234> seidos, mine started giving totally wrong numbers after about a year
[06:14] <maco> seidos: your laptop may let you recalibrate the batter in the BIOS
[06:14] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: zcat /usr/share/doc/refit/README.Debian.gz | less
[06:15] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: For instructions on installing rEFIt
[06:15] <mad> losha: it appears to be a problem with isos created under Vista
[06:15] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: thanks :D
[06:15] <Jordan_U> GamerKnight: np
[06:15] <seidos> that's disturbing
[06:16] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: Did you choose it by pressing "advanced" on this screen: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/9.10/9.jpg ?
[06:17] <seidos> draco1234: what did you do?
[06:17] <draco1234> seidos, the acpi works by means of magic blue smoke in the battery. After my laptop overheated, some of the smoke got out and now it is unusable...
[06:17] <draco1234> seidos, seriously, I removed my battery and always plug in the laptop now
[06:17] <draco1234> seidos, it's lighter!
[06:18] <chilli0> Hi
[06:18] <examplejohn> SONS a bitches!
[06:18] <seidos> draco1234: i used to do the same, i thought that was the reason why my battery life is terrible.  but, i thought i should look into the problem since the battery should be functioning
[06:18] <maco> ...ok then
[06:18] <chilli0> Im trying to setup ubuntu one
[06:19] <chilli0> But i get a 404
[06:19] <jahnkeanater> i am using apache and when i type in my domain it takes me to my routers config screen how do i fix this
[06:19] <Shdwdrgn> evening, folks.  I'm using nss-mysql and trying to use the full email address for user login.  From the console, I note that when I hit the @ key, it erases the username, however after the login fails the first time, I can then type the full email address and log in.  Any idea how to stop the @ key from erasing the username the first time around?
[06:19] <draco1234> seidos, if batteries didn't die every 1-2 years, how would Dell manage to stay profitable?
[06:20] <losha> mad: is there a known problem with vista isos being read on linux? I don't see much on google about it?
[06:20] <seidos> draco1234: that isn't my concern
[06:20] <aboeing> hi, i'm having some issues with installing linux-kernel-devel, it says it cant install because of missing dependencies, one of which is debhelper. if i try and install debhelper i get errors about the package not being available... can anyone help me?
[06:21] <seidos> dell, hp, system76
[06:21] <Billiard1> losha: how do you try to use the sio ?
[06:21] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: going to log off and try this. it should work. as last time i did the same kind of thing on a non hfs volumn and it worked most of the way
[06:21] <Billiard1> losha: iso*
[06:21] <GamerKnight> Jordan_U: thanks for the help again mate. i will let you know how it goes
[06:21] <aboeing> this is the exact error message: "Package debhelper is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:21] <aboeing> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:21] <aboeing> is only available from another source
[06:21] <aboeing> E: Package debhelper has no installation candidate"
[06:22] <Flannel> aboeing: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[06:22] <FloodBot5> aboeing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <jahnkeanater> how do i set up my router and my web sight
[06:22] <draco1234> aboeing, try selecting a different repository in system>>administration>>software sources
[06:22] <losha> Billiard1: mad reports problems reading an iso created under vista...
[06:22] <draco1234> aboeing, and then refresh the package list...
[06:23] <Billiard1> losha: sorry, im not familiar with mad
[06:23] <jahnkeanater> i would like to be able to use the WOL function on my router to turn on my server
[06:23] <aboeing> draco1234: which repository do i choose? normal, restricted, universe, or multiverse?
[06:23] <Flannel> aboeing: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[06:23] <kstarr> no, thats the one i wanted you to see http://greener-better.com/
[06:23] <losha> Billiard1: mad is the name of an irc user recently on this channel :-)
[06:23] <kstarr> I meant this one:  http://2ndh.com
[06:23] <draco1234> aboeing, oh, those should all be enabled... I meant, the part where it says "Download From:"
[06:23] <aboeing> Flannel: update works fine, it hits security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/.... etc.
[06:23] <aboeing> draco1234: oh ok, i'm using the terminal, no gui.
[06:23] <Billiard1> losha: o so mad has the iso problem, sorry
[06:24] <Flannel> aboeing: Right, but it's handy to determine which repos you have.
[06:24] <losha> Billiard1: :-)
[06:24] <mad> I solved my problem. I mounted the iso with "-t udf" instead of "-t iso9660". Just in case anyone is interested. :)
[06:24] <jiga123123> hello everyone! I need some advice on disk partitioning, can someone help around here?
[06:24] <Billiard1> mad: you might be able to leave of the -t option completely
[06:25] <Billiard1> jiga123123: just ask the question
[06:25] <draco1234> aboeing, ok then... in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <mad> Billiard1: hmm, that option didn't even come to my mind
[06:25] <losha> Mad: presumably this was an option when you created the iso, you could have chosen iso9660 format...
[06:25] <aboeing> Flannel: unfortunately, i can't get "lynx" to install on the computer either, so i can't paste the output
[06:26] <cfedde> jiga123123: the answer is: most of the time don't bother.
[06:26] <mad> losha: that's the problem, i didn't create it myself :)
[06:26] <aboeing> draco1234: i've added those sources ot the sources.list, and done another update, but i still can't install the kernel devel package
[06:26] <Flannel> aboeing: w3m is installed by default
[06:26] <losha> mad: good to know the solution then....
[06:27] <draco1234> aboeing, is there any way you can post your sources.list file?
[06:27] <Flannel> draco1234, aboeing: posting the output to `sudo apt-get update` gives you the contents of the sources.list, and sources.list.d
[06:28] <bashca> hi there
[06:28] <bashca> can u help me  reqonized my  zte data card  on  koala ???
[06:28] <aboeing> uhm, how do I copy the content of a text file into w3m?
[06:29] <jiga123123> Thanks billiard1! I have a ~280gb harddrive, laptop, and my plan is to have dual-boot with W7(i don't pay MS, so don't think i'm an infidel) and Ubuntu (is 9.10 the best one to use right now?). And I am wondering how many partitions I should make. It sounds like for W7 i will only need 1 ntfs partition, bbut not sure how big. About ubuntu - I heard that I should make Reiser for system partition, and Something else for the other files. S
[06:29] <jiga123123> o the ultimate question I have: how many and what size and what type of FS partitions do you think i should make? thank you!
[06:29] <nightvisio> Wtf: does ext4 also take some space for directories?
[06:29] <seidos> jiga123123: what do you think?
[06:29] <nightvisio> For example, my 10 files ~= 35.7 kb; when I click `Properties` on the whole directory, it shows me over 47 kb
[06:30] <jiga123123> seidos, what do i think on what?
[06:30] <Billiard1> jiga123123: i would use ext3 or 4 for linux not reiser, for size depends how much and what you want to do with each os
[06:30] <MenZa> jiga123123: Well, Windows 7 uses a single NTFS partition with 100MB of empty space in front of it I believe. In addition to that, I'd recommend a small / partition, and a large /home partition. Both formatted as ext4.
[06:30] <SwedeMike> jiga123123: W7 makes two partitions per default. Just install w7 and then do ubuntu install, it'll resize the w7 partition for you if you want to. The size is up to you, your hd is big to hold both OSes, all depends where you want to store files.
[06:30] <MenZa> jiga123123: In addition, if you have <4GB RAM, use a swap partition for that.
[06:30] <seidos> jiga123123: nm, didn't click that you were talking to a specific user
[06:31] <jiga123123> ---me reading...
[06:31] <Phoenix325> Is there by anychance a way to find out what commands each keyboard shortcut does?
[06:31] <floppyears> hi, I'm trying to setup lirc in ubuntu karmic with no luck
[06:31] <floppyears> does somebody here use lirc_mceusb ?
[06:31] <draco1234> nightvisio, you probably have hidden files you weren't noticing
[06:32] <Phoenix325> Like knowing the command the creates the "CTRL + ALT +D" effect.
[06:32] <nightvisio> draco1234, I have no hidden file
[06:32] <nightvisio> ls -all show me nothing else
[06:32] <Flannel> aboeing: If your editor is set to vim, you can do `:read !command` and it'll put the output of that command (try cat for the file you store the output in)
[06:32] <draco1234> nightvisio, see, that just proves how well hidden it is
[06:33] <nightvisio> draco1234, how to make sure?
[06:33] <jiga123123> what is the difference between ext3 and ext4? and why no ruse reiser, if they say it's better for many small system files?
[06:33] <draco1234> nightvisio, honestly, I'm using ext3 and all my folders take 4kb
[06:34] <losha> nightvisio: open a terminal, cd to your directory, and run du -h
[06:34] <nightvisio> Whoah
[06:34] <nightvisio> Second...
[06:34] <draco1234> jiga123123, reiser is on the way out, since the main developer, Hans Reiser, killed his wife and went to jail, and everybody quit
[06:34] <Billiard> jiga123123: some people have problems with ext4, and ext3 is more that enough for most people
[06:35] <Phoenix325> The purpose of this is to replicated the CTRL + ALT + D shortcut to something else.
[06:35] <losha> jiga123123: if you choose ext3, you can use almost any linux with it, including 3rd party rescue disks and live cds. That's a good thing...
[06:35] <jiga123123> draco1234: Crazy story!
[06:36] <jiga123123> losha: what about ext4? why ubuntu uses it as a default fs?
[06:36] <jiga123123> billiard: pls tell me what is different in ext4 from ext3?
[06:36] <losha> jiga123123: it's supposed to be faster, but it's also newer, which means less stable, and harder to debug, and less compatible with things like super grub disk....
[06:36] <nightvisio> Hmm:
[06:36] <nightvisio> nerijus@nerijus-desktop:/media/sda5/xGame SDK 1.0/include/xGame$ du -h
[06:36] <nightvisio> 40K	./container
[06:36] <nightvisio> 20K	./specification
[06:36] <nightvisio> 12K	./algorithm
[06:36] <nightvisio> 80K	.
[06:36] <FloodBot5> nightvisio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <draco1234> jiga123123, haha yeah, look at the last column in this comparison chart: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/resierreiserererer.jpg
[06:37] <bashca> hello
[06:37] <Phoenix325> -.- Pastebin...
[06:37] <Billiard> jiga123123: ubuntu used ext4 because they wanted to be cool and hip with a new default fs lol
[06:37] <nightvisio> OK. ;-)
[06:37] <Phoenix325> Hi bashca.
[06:37] <bashca> any help  on  zte  data czrd
[06:37] <bashca> Phoenix325: hi
[06:37] <bashca> data card
[06:38] <bashca> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05c6:6539 Qualcomm, Inc.
[06:38] <jahnkeanater> did older ubuntu use ext3
[06:38] <losha> jiga123123: ubuntu were also on a release deadline, so not everything they released was ready....
[06:38] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: 9.10 was the first release to use ext4 as default
[06:39] <jahnkeanater> hmm i need to check what i have
[06:39] <jiga123123> And the question is still: i read somewhere that it is a safer bet to make something like 1 parttttn for system of linux, and 1 partitin for "home" folder. is that true? how does it worK?
[06:39] <bashca> [ 3663.350662] pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[06:39] <jahnkeanater> wow i still have 8.04
[06:39] <jahnkeanater> how do i run the update for that
[06:39] <losha> jahnkeanater: so do I. Nothing wrong with that. It's an lts, designed for long term use...
[06:39] <Billiard> jiga123123: separate partition for home makes it easy to do a fresh install and keep all your user data
[06:40] <losha> !lts
[06:40] <jiga123123> hey, guys, it's cool that this is a ubuntu channel and you say that I shouldn't use the fs that comes in the package, i will definitely switch to ext3 when i can))
[06:40] <doc|suk|dik> hi!
[06:40] <geezlouise> Anyone ever recieve an error while publishing a webpage that site cannot be published to speicified location, please help.
[06:40] <jahnkeanater> is 9 still in beta or something
[06:40] <maco> Billiard: 8.04+ do not overwrite /home if you choose manual partitioning, use same partition as /, and choose not to format it
[06:40] <draco1234> jahnkeanater, that would be a pretty complicated update... I'd just download the new install cd and start with that
[06:40] <maco> jahnkeanater: 9.04 and 9.10 are both stable releases
[06:40] <maco> jahnkeanater: the next stable release will be 10.04
[06:41] <jahnkeanater> so i cant use the update manager in ubuntu to upgrade to 9
[06:41] <losha> jahnkeanater: note that 'stable' is entirely a matter of opinion....
[06:41] <jiga123123> billiard: that was really my initial question. How helpful is that? any other trick of that kind? cause I found that whenever i installed something wrond in ubuntu and xubuntu, only the reinstall+format helped to go back :((
[06:41] <Toad> hi all. Just installed karmic. Mostly good, except now where terminal used to do the annoying pcspkr beep, it's attempting and failing to do some other kind of beep, and instead of beeping just results in my speakers popping
[06:41] <Billiard> geezlouise: you use the wrong password or path?
[06:41] <Toad> (eg running "beep" from command line pops the speakers)
[06:41] <ron-l-j> :d
[06:41] <Toad> if I run "beep" several times in a row, it only pops the first time
[06:41] <draco1234> jahnkeanater, you could use the update manager, but it will probably try to download gigabytes of stuff, and it might not get the packages right since you are a few versions behind
[06:41] <maco> jahnkeanater: sure you can. itll just take one more round to reach 9.10 than 9.04
[06:41] <jahnkeanater> hmm i might do that later i dont feel like backing up my home folder now
[06:42] <jahnkeanater> yea
[06:42] <Toad> I'm guessing it's doing something like sleeping my sound card when nothing's going into it, and then when it wakes it back up, it pops
[06:42] <Toad> (OSX does this same thing on my other computer)
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Toad: You will probably notice the same pop any time you try to play any sound
[06:42] <jahnkeanater> o i have to do i one version at a time
[06:42] <Toad> Jordan_U: yea, pretty sure it's not just the beep
[06:42] <jahnkeanater> yea ill save that for another day
[06:42] <jiga123123> draco1234 thanks for cool link. why did he do that, and... does that make everyone not use reiserFS from then, or is the FS not as good?
[06:42] <doc|suk|dik> hi
[06:42] <Toad> Jordan_U: yea, just confirmed with mplayer
[06:42] <Toad> any idea how to turn off the automatic sound device sleeping?
[06:42] <Billiard> jiga123123: what could you install wrong? if you use the package manager everything can be easily uninstalled, make backups of your config files if you manually change them
[06:43] <jahnkeanater> i got my web sight working how do i enable my router also
[06:43] <maco> jiga123123: for my family's computers, i use ext4 on / for speed and ext3 on /home for safety (my own computer is all ext4, but then i carry install discs everywhere)
[06:43] <maco> jiga123123: (and i have backups)
[06:43] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: enable your router?
[06:43] <jahnkeanater> the web config page
[06:43] <losha> jiga123123: he killed her because she insisted on using ext4...
[06:43] <jahnkeanater> like 192.168.1.1
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Toad: I can tell you that pulseaudio is the direction to be looking
[06:43] <jahnkeanater> but over the internet
[06:43] <Billiard> hahahaha losha
[06:44] <Toad> Jordan_U: yea, figured. thanks
[06:44] <Toad> wasn't sure if this were a known bug. googling some more
[06:44] <jiga123123> maco Thanks!
[06:44] <Toad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/456022 looks right
[06:44] <jahnkeanater> can i type a port # after my domain to di that
[06:44] <jiga123123> maco, what size do you give to '/'?
[06:44] <maco> losha: that was in very poor taste
[06:44] <lein> got a major problem that i haven't been able to fix.  when i boot grub give error 15 file not found. i drop to grub-shell and load kernel and initrd then boot. the kernel starts to load then kernel panic - not s
[06:44] <jiga123123> losha, _))) that's the way to go!__D
[06:44] <Toad> aha! power_save options to snd_hda_intel look like the culprit
[06:44] <losha> maco: thank you....
[06:44] <maco> jiga123123: for normal use i had a 10GB / but now i use 15GB since i need space for lots of development tools
[06:45] <Toad> Jordan_U: thanks for standing by as I googled ;-)
[06:45] <draco1234> jiga123123, Well, I think he had some mental difficulties and a wierd relationship with his wife... at any rate, his conviction for murder kind of tarnished the reputation of the project.
[06:45] <Jordan_U> Toad: np :)
[06:45] <wanceu> halo kambing
[06:45] <wanceu> ahlan wa sahlan
[06:45] <jahnkeanater> when i forward port 80 it replaces the config page with my web page but i would still like to use the config page from over the web
[06:46] <losha> draco1234: which is odd. You'd think it would be a killer filesystem....
[06:46] <Toad> Jordan_U: my poor speakers thank you as well :)
[06:46] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: i wouldnt recomend using the config page from the web, some routers will let you change the port for the router config to to wan
[06:46] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: to the wan
[06:47] <draco1234> losha, true but the last thing you want in a filesystem is unpredictable deletions...
[06:47] <losha> draco1234: :-)
[06:47] <jahnkeanater> y not i have a password on it o want the WOL feature
[06:48] <jahnkeanater> is there an easier way to set up WOL
[06:48] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: because passwords are insecure, and someone can get in to your router config and forward any port they want
[06:49] <jahnkeanater> what does the firewall on my pc do then
[06:49] <jiga123123> billiard, some packages give description that is not complete really. in my case, with all 9.10: ubuntu - install it, but the soundcard disappears. reinstall - it's there. than after some wrong step, whatever it was - soundcard would disappear again. hours googling - i restart alsa manually - sound and soundcard back in the mixer. reboot - soundcard not there again... so i try xubuntu - i like the looks and customizability (for a newbie
[06:49] <jiga123123> ) of xfce, and the performance supposedly increases. the sound works correctly in xubuntu. but the sound recording not working. And the main thing was also that in xubu I couldnt make the sound play from USB headset(it was recognised and all, but i had no idea how to switch)..... what can i say - I am not giving up that easily! here i am looking for help))
[06:49] <jahnkeanater> is there ESET NOD32 for ubuntu
[06:50] <jahnkeanater> i dont see a reason for it tho
[06:50] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: block connections from the internet And lan, prevent outgoing connections
[06:50] <jiga123123> are there many antiviruses for ubuntu?
[06:50] <jiga123123> maco, thnx, 15gb, noted.
[06:51] <Billiard> jiga123123: dont really need an antivirus, but there is clamav, ubuntu and xbuntu are almost the same, just a different gui
[06:51] <maco> jiga123123: thats just because if you have a ton of -dbg and -dev and -doc packages installed for development...plus the entirety of texlive...things can get rather full
[06:51] <indus> Billiard: how would anyone getinto a router?
[06:51] <Ayhee> hai..
[06:51] <jahnkeanater> am i unsafe without my router then
[06:51] <lein> got a major problem that i haven't been able to fix.  when i boot grub give error 15 file not found. i drop to grub-shell and load kernel and initrd then boot. the kernel starts to load then says: Done. Gave up waiting for root device. ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to Shell! then drops to busy-box / initramfs
[06:52] <Ayhee> how to build gateway server with carmic koala??
[06:52] <Billiard> indus: he has the router management available on the web with a password
[06:52] <Ayhee> how to build gateway server with carmic koala??
[06:52] <indus> Billiard: on the web? meaning?
[06:52] <Billiard> indus: connectable from anyone
[06:52] <dragon> what's the downside of using amd64 arch?
[06:52] <Ayhee> dragon : how to build gateway server with carmic koala??
[06:53] <needhelp1> i need some help, i have a belkin router im trying to set up.. and i cant get it to work right.. its asking for a host name to connect to my ISP.. what is this?
[06:53] <Billiard> indus: not just the lan, anyone can connect from the entire internet
[06:53] <armornick> dragon: 64 bit support is very good with linux
[06:53] <dragon> Ayhee: what do you mean by gateway?
[06:53] <indus> Billiard: how is that possible?
[06:53] <Ayhee> ?
[06:53] <jiga123123> billiard, no they are not)) after i tried to install sound recorder, which is ubuntuonly, i accidentally installed some ubu-specific sound packages. and the i had extra menu items in the sound mixer, which I really did not want. is xfce really faster that gnome? Why is gnome The most popular?
[06:53] <Billiard> indus: um, internet protocol? how is what possible
[06:53] <indus> Ayhee: heeya
[06:53] <Ayhee> i need some help how to build gateway server with carmic koala??
[06:53] <MisterK85> Hi everyone. Just wondering why my Wireless card isn't working in Ubuntu 9.10. It worked in prior releases, but not now.
[06:53] <armornick> needhelp1: what are you trying to set up exactly?
[06:53] <needhelp1> my router.. to get wifi
[06:53] <indus> Billiard: i have a router too, no one can seee it
[06:54] <needhelp1> armornick: my router to get wifi to work
[06:54] <Billiard> indus: you can turn off/on remote management
[06:54] <armornick> MisterK85: what wireless chip do you have?
[06:54] <dragon> armornick: yes, I realize that. Is there something 64-bit is missing?
[06:54] <dragon> !amd64
[06:54] <Billiard> indus: it probably is always off by default
[06:54] <indus> Billiard: yeah ok
[06:54] <needhelp1> armornick: right now im connected directly from the modem.. but when i attempt to connect the router in the setup it asks for my host name.. im not sure what this is
[06:54] <MisterK85> It's a Dell Wireless 1395.  Broadcom chipset.
[06:54] <Ayhee> !gateway
[06:54] <armornick> needhelp1: do you have a dynamic or static IP adress?
[06:54] <needhelp1> armornick: dynamic i think
[06:54] <Billiard> needhelp1: depends on your isp, but you can probably put anything
[06:55] <armornick> MisterK85: you have to install the drivers manually in this version
[06:55] <Billiard> needhelp1: or blank
[06:55] <needhelp1> bill armornick i tried putting like test.. or anything.. but i could never get it to work.. in the web admin setup thin.. 192.168 .. top right hand corner just says Connection disabled
[06:55] <MisterK85> armornick: how abouts would i do that? lol
[06:55] <armornick> MisterK85: it's the package bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:55] <needhelp1> Billiard: armornick i cant figure out how to turn it on
[06:55] <aboeing> draco1234, Flannel: thanks for your help, i figured out the issue, i had to add another mirror to the sources.list
[06:55] <jiga123123>  the soundcard disappears. reinstall - it's there. than after some wrong step, whatever it was - soundcard would disappear again. hours googling - i restart alsa manually - sound and soundcard back in the mixer. reboot - soundcard not there again... - what is the origin and solution of such problem?
[06:56] <Billiard> needhelp1: is there a setting to choose your connection type?
[06:56] <armornick> MisterK85: can you connect with a wired network?
[06:56] <draco1234> aboeing, super!
[06:56] <indus> Ayhee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[06:56] <needhelp1> yeah.. i pick dynamic and then it asks for a hostname.. i put like TEST or something.. it refreshes and nothing happens
[06:56] <MisterK85> armornick: I can, yep. Lemme get a network cord
[06:56] <needhelp1> still says disabled
[06:56] <jiga123123> cause the liveCD runs the sound and the soundcard recognised all fine.
[06:56] <Billiard> jiga123123: i would say "wrong setup" is the cause
[06:56] <Billiard> jiga123123: whatever that is
[06:57] <armornick> MisterK85: then you can use synaptic to install the package bcmwl-kernel-source, and reboot
[06:57] <Billiard> jiga123123: "wrong step"*
[06:57] <lein> i've RTFM'ed and read through the forum can't find a solution and tried a few without success. and tried everything i can thing of without reinstall or using :recover a broken system on live cd.
[06:57] <armornick> lein: what's the problem?
[06:58] <jiga123123> billliard: then what can it be? cause again - live cd recognises the soundcard alll fine. why does it happen so that after installation, ubuntu sound mixer would stop seeing my soundcard?
[06:58] <lein> got a major problem that i haven't been able to fix.  when i boot grub give error 15 file not found. i drop to grub-shell and load kernel and initrd then boot. the kernel starts to load then says: Done. Gave up waiting for root device. ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to Shell! then drops to busy-box / initramfs
[06:58] <armornick> needhelp1: can you upload a picture of your setup home page somewhere?
[06:58] <Sahkolihaa> lein: Is this a fresh install, and have you got multiple SATA drives?
[06:58] <needhelp1> armornick: for some reason it wont let me access the homepage unless i am pluged into the router
[06:58] <needhelp1> ill brb
[06:58] <needhelp1> im gona try again
[06:58] <needhelp1> will you still be here armornick?
[06:59] <armornick> needhelp1: sure
[06:59] <needhelp1> kk thanks
[06:59] <draco1234> lein, how did that happen?
[06:59] <needhelp1> brb
[06:59] <FloodBot5> needhelp1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <jahnkeanater> if i change port 85 to 192.168.1.1 will that let me use my routers config
[06:59] <Billiard> jiga123123: after a fresh install no modifications, sound doesnt work anymore?
[06:59] <losha> jiga123123: dunno the cause or the solution, but ubuntu users have been reporting sound problems on this channel from 8.10 onwards. If all else fails, you might try 8.04 LTS
[06:59] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: yes
[07:00] <jahnkeanater> would both be 85 or is one suposed to be 80 still
[07:00] <MisterK85> armornick: i cannot find that package
[07:00] <lein> sahkoliha: it was from a fresh install like 8 months go. just updated the kernel to 2.6.28-16-generic a week ago been trying to fix since
[07:00] <Sahkolihaa> lein: Ah, I'll have to let someone else help then I'm afraid (I had this issue but it was regarding have multiple SATA drives and a bug in the installer).
[07:00] <jahnkeanater> nvm yay it works
[07:00] <armornick> MisterK85: that's odd
[07:00] <Billiard> jahnkeanater: most routers let you change the remote management port, but if it doesnt try forwarding a port source 85 destination 192.168.1.1:85
[07:01] <Billiard> jahnkeanater:  sorry 192.168.1.1:80
[07:01] <Phoenix325> Is there by anychance a way to find out what commands each keyboard shortcut does? (And for example I mean the SOURCE that's behind the magics of ctrl+alt+d ).
[07:01] <armornick> MisterK85: I guess you could try manually installing it: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[07:01] <lein> sahkoliha: sorry single sata partitioned to:  /boot, /, /usr. /home, /var, swap
[07:01] <Billiard> Phoenix325: you check the keyboard shortcuts from the menu?
[07:02] <armornick> Phoenix325: the source is implemented in gnome itself, so that's going to be hard
[07:02] <lein> sahkoliha: ty anyway
[07:02] <jiga123123> well, I think it depends on 1) whether i have a headphone in the headphone plug of the laptop, or 2) on a random thing, but on my asus laptop sometimes after ubuntu install the sound would work right away, and sometimes it would not work... magic. But sound works with livecd. And i find sound very important))
[07:02] <MisterK85> armornick: found it, got hidden away somehow.
[07:02] <jiga123123> billiard
[07:02] <lein> sahkoliha: sorry got a bit of lag
[07:02] <losha> lein: can you boot the live cd?
[07:02] <lein> losha yes
[07:03] <armornick> MisterK85: if it doesn't work after you reboot, try running 'sudo modprobe wl' in a terminal
[07:03] <Billiard> jiga123123: yeah idk, lots of people have sound problems, they need to fix that
[07:03] <Phoenix325> Billiard & armornick: I'm trying to like "replicate" the "minimize all" button.
[07:03] <losha> lein: what os version?
[07:03] <draco1234> Phoenix325, are you using compiz or metacity?
[07:03] <jiga123123> billiard: where would i get 8.04? and how does it really differ from 9.10? like xp and vista?=D
[07:03] <gheddy_zarc> is there a way to make usb drives automatcilly mount in 9.10 ?? instead of unplugging and plugging it back in ?
[07:03] <lein> losha: 9.04 with kernel 2.6.28-16-generic
[07:03] <Phoenix325> Because the "preconfigured" commands isn't telling me how. I think it's "Metacity".
[07:03] <Billiard> Phoenix325: there might be a command to minimize all, or you might be able to send the keyboard shortcut if that doesnt work
[07:04] <jiga123123> billiard: "lots of people have sound problems, they need to fix that" do you know who would be able to fix that?
[07:04] <jiga123123> billiard: where would i get 8.04? and how does it really differ from 9.10? like xp and vista?=D
[07:04] <losha> lein: from the live cd, check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file. It gets rewritten when you add a new kernel. See if you have an older version you can revert to...
[07:04] <GamerKnight> Hey people i am using Ubuntu 8.10 64bit. i can not seem to find refit in the repos. can anyone help. i can find it fine using Linux Mint
[07:04] <Phoenix325> The problem is... "I do not know how they did that".
[07:04] <armornick> Phoenix325: you should be able to change that in the keyboard shortcuts menu; it's called show desktop
[07:04] <Billiard> jiga123123: i dont know if 8.04 is still supported with security updates
[07:04] <draco1234> Phoenix325, well then you can edit the shortcuts in a more advanced way by running "gconf-editor" and navigating to apps>>metacity
[07:05] <doc|suk|dik> 08:01 < doc|suk|dik> how did a netherlands person
[07:05] <doc|suk|dik> 08:01 < doc|suk|dik> know about a UHF advertisement from america around 1986
[07:05] <Billiard> jiga123123: it should be still available on the ubuntu mirrors i think
[07:05] <doc|suk|dik> 08:01 < doc|suk|dik> "Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER"]
[07:05] <armornick> Billiard: it is, since it's an LTS release
[07:05] <lein> losha: already did that menu.lst is good even commented out the new kernel and still get same result
[07:06] <jiga123123> 9.10... 6 month 9.04, + 6 8.10, + 6 8.04 is around 1.5-2 years old. how did ubuntu change from that time? what version do you use?
[07:06] <lein> losha: can't boot to any of my back up kernels or recovery console
[07:07] <armornick> jiga123123: it's simply package upgrades and some new technologies
[07:07] <linuxguy2009> Does anyone here really know what is going on with the continued use of pulseaudio yet on distros that use it, like Ubuntu, have so many sound issues? Is it pulseaudio just not ready for primetime or programmers not writing code to use it properly or can someone explain the reasoning for basing sound on something that appears to be pretty much broken?
[07:07] <Flannel> doc|suk|dik: Please stay ontopic, thanks.
[07:07] <losha> lein: can you check the uuids and paths in the menu.lst? Also, check the device.map. Lastly, try reinstalling grub. Nothing to lose at this stage...
[07:07] <armornick> linuxguy2009: just uninstall it
[07:08] <dragon> how can i enable proprietary drivers from the command line?
[07:08] <linuxguy2009> armornick: Im in 9.10, how do I get back my volume applet?
[07:08] <armornick> dragon: with modprobe if you know what they're called
[07:08] <jiga123123> armornick, what kind of new tech?
[07:08] <dragon> armornick: what's the command?
[07:08] <dragon> armornick: ah, I need to have the drivers.
[07:08] <maco> dragon: you can install them with "sudo apt-get install" but you need to know which driver you want first
[07:08] <soreau> linuxguy2009: Apparently its the technically correct unix philosophy way of doing it
[07:09] <armornick> dragon: sudo modprobe and then the name of the driver to load it after you install it
[07:09] <maco> armornick: dragon is asking about installing proprietary drivers
[07:09] <losha> linuxguy2009: the thing about time-based releases is, you have to release, ready or not...
[07:09] <doc|suk|dik> i wonder why ubuntu has trojans in it
[07:09] <KiKiTou> Hola
[07:09] <armornick> maco: yeah, but you have to load them too after you install them
[07:09] <soreau> linuxguy2009: iirc, the volume applet is in the tray so you need to add a tray to your panel if you dont have one already
[07:09] <linuxguy2009> soreau: Are you on 9.10?
[07:09] <lein> losha: yes you can checck uuids and did there good checked against fstab device map looked ok. tryed super grub disk without success still coudn't booot
[07:09] <maco> armornick: not manually each time... put it in /etc/modules and reboot
[07:10] <soreau> linuxguy2009: Not per se
[07:10] <armornick> jiga123123: well they change from HAL to devicekit to make hardware loading better, for example
[07:10] <linuxguy2009> soreau: Well that worked in 9.04 , but in 9.10 you lose the volume applet from your system completely. I have no idea whos idea it was but I dont like it.
[07:10] <jiga123123> guys, is there an open web resourse or some particular book that would turn a newbie to a person who can understand linux and ubuntu and solve problems?
[07:10] <armornick> jiga123123: and the pulseaudio framework you hear everyone complain about
[07:11] <seidos> what laptops have the best firmware?
[07:11] <soreau> linuxguy2009: You dont lose it, it just exist in the tray now
[07:11] <armornick> jiga123123: ubuntuguide.org
[07:11] <linuxguy2009> soreau: What?
[07:11] <jiga123123> armornick, so should i switch to 8.04 if i have troubles with sound in 9.10? really? or just keep trying to find solution?
[07:11] <losha> lein: sorry, no more ideas for you....
[07:12] <linuxguy2009> soreau: In 9.10 is the tray volume applet goes away when you remove pulseaudio.
[07:12] <Phoenix325> armornick: I'm not looking to change those, it's more like "replicating what already exists".                               draco1234: This makes a shortcut, but apparently, it's a shortcut to no where.
[07:12] <armornick> jiga123123: try uninstalling pulseaudio and using ALSA instead
[07:12] <Billiard> jiga123123: if it was me i would look for a solution, someone on the ubuntu forums might have your same computer with a solution
[07:12] <linuxguy2009> soreau: It appears that even when you try and add applets to the panel its completely gone.
[07:12] <soreau> linuxguy2009: Well if thats the case, idk. I didnt recommend removing pulseaudio
[07:12] <armornick> Phoenix325: there should be an app called xmacro to create a script that does something similar
[07:13] <linuxguy2009> Seems lots of distros have adopted pulseaudio like Ubuntu and its broken.
[07:13] <lein> losha: ty  anyway. guess ill reinstall grub and see what happens
[07:13] <draco1234> Phoenix325, um, the shortcuts in metacity/global_keybindings run the commands in matacity/keybindings_commands
[07:13] <Salvad1> Hello.
[07:13] <losha> jiga123123: it's your call. But if you're doing a lot of reinstalling, I don't see what you've got to lose, unless there's some 9.X feature you can't live without....
[07:13] <indus> jiga123123: use oss its much better
[07:13] <Salvad1> Is it possible to use the latest Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.10?
[07:14] <cdm10> I'm having issues with Folder Sharing on Karmic -- is this a known issue?
[07:14] <jiga123123> indus: how would i use that in gnome? and ubuntu come with alsa by default...
[07:14] <KiKiTou> how quit channel without disconnect?
[07:14] <seidos> indus: do you think that's what ubuntu will use in the future?
[07:14] <KiKiTou> irssi cliente sorry
[07:14] <Flannel> KiKiTou: /part
[07:14] <KiKiTou> gratzie
[07:14] <KiKiTou> :)
[07:14] <Phoenix325> draco1234: Wait, what? How?
[07:14] <Flannel> KiKiTou: or /wc (window close)
[07:14] <linuxguy2009> Do any 9.10 users have a solution to remove pulseaudio but keep the volume control applet on the panel?
[07:14] <KiKiTou> (Y) okey
[07:14] <Phoenix325> You totally lost me there.
[07:14] <seidos> sup Flannel
[07:14] <KiKiTou> yes :P
[07:15] <Flannel> Howdy seidos
[07:15] <armornick> linuxguy2009: don't think so
[07:15] <indus> oss4 is very good i hear, and also, i have never seen any application not play good with oss and no regressions either
[07:15] <KiKiTou> install ubuntu 2 days :P
[07:15] <Billiard> linuxguy2009: maybe there is a package you need to install gnome alsa mixer or something?
[07:15] <indus> especially with 9.10, i had alsa problems also, so i run some gamees with oss
[07:15] <linuxguy2009> Billiard: Thats what Im thinking I just dont know what would be the package for that panel applet to control ALSA.
[07:15] <losha> cdm10: I don't think there's a known issue with folder sharing. Doesn't ring a bell...
[07:16] <draco1234> Phoenix325, for example, in /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_12, you can define the keys that will run whever program you put inside /apps/metacity/keybindings_commands/command_12
[07:16] <cdm10> losha: bleh. It's working now, but very iffily. It's never worked reliably for me...
[07:16] <indus> the thing is, newer distros kill older apps
[07:16] <indus> what about the games from 1990 - 2005 , they all suffer with new pulseaudio .alsa etd
[07:16] <linuxguy2009> Billiard: gnome-alsamixer think thats it?
[07:16] <indus> but they play nice with oss
[07:17] <Billiard> linuxguy2009: could be, you could make a launcher for that, if it doesnt work
[07:17] <indus> jiga123123: there is a package called alsa-oss which lets u use oss
[07:17] <indus> jiga123123: just install it
[07:17] <linuxguy2009> Billiard: K ill give it a try.
[07:17] <indus> jiga123123: it lets you play some apps with oss support
[07:17] <jiga123123> losha: i though 9.10 is should be much faster-better-secure, since its 4 version ahead of 8.04... will i be able to install all cool and useful software on 8.04?
[07:18] <armornick> jiga123123: older versions, yes
[07:18] <Phoenix325> draco1234: Just checking in keybinding_commands, I do not see a connection to anything having to do with "show desktop" fron global_keybindings
[07:18] <armornick> jiga123123: they will be more tested and stable
[07:18] <indus> jiga123123: if you are looking for cool, use 9.10
[07:18] <indus> armornick: why would they be more tested? that version too releases in 6 months
[07:19] <bigmack83_> in gparted, i have a harddrive with a partition at the end of the harddrive. if i expand that partition to the left, will it try to move the data already on the partition or will it keep it there and just expand the partitoin size? i ask because if its going to need to move the data i have a lot of files there and would prefer to move them manually
[07:19] <indus> for example, 10.04 work has started just a month ago
[07:19] <indus> no reason why it should be more stable really
[07:19] <armornick> indus: it's a long term release, which means the packages are stabler because they are working on it longer
[07:19] <indus> LTS
[07:19] <indus> no body is working on it longer
[07:19] <indus> it only means, the support cycle is longer
[07:20] <armornick> yes it is, since 10.04 == 9.10
[07:20] <maco> armornick: um no
[07:20] <indus> ==?
[07:20] <indus> what is that
[07:20] <maco> armornick: 9.10 an 10.04 are two different releases
[07:20] <bigmack83_> == = is equal to
[07:20] <indus> its not equivalent
[07:20] <maco> indus: == is a test for equality
[07:20] <indus> yea i know !=
[07:20] <armornick> maco: i'm explaining it wrong...
[07:21] <indus> LTS is long term support , not 'like it stable'
[07:21] <draco1234> Phoenix325, ah yes, I was being more general. "Showing the desktop" is not a command, but a function of the window manager. If you want to try controlling your window manager with terminal comands, install the package "wmctrl"
[07:21] <armornick> indus: the underlying packages (kernel, etc) are still the same so they have more time to make it stable
[07:21] <maco> armornick: no theyre not
[07:21] <maco> armornick: 10.04 will likely have 2.6.32
[07:21] <bigmack83_> in gparted if i expand a partition to the left will it move the files or keep them there and just expand the partitoin size?
[07:21] <indus> armornick: why is the kernel the same?
[07:22] <losha> jiga123123: newer isn't always better when it comes to software.
[07:22] <jiga123123> indus: some apps, not all? and the 'cool' i mean my subjective cool, meaning all working the way i want it, and being able to install software that would work and customize the appearance and of course get perforamnce since my cpu is 1.66 and even though it's dual core, it feel slow.
[07:22] <maco> armornick: 9.04 has 2.6.31. not the same
[07:22] <maco> armornick: we're syncing from Debian Testing for 10.04
[07:22] <indus> jiga123123: hmm
[07:22] <abhifx> hi there. i have a simple problem. i have no borders in gnome.can someone help me?
[07:22] <jiga123123> losha: agreed. Which version of the ubuntu u use?
[07:22] <maco> indus: the kernel will not be the same. armornick doesn't know what they're talking about
[07:22] <indus> jiga123123: try and see what is best for you
[07:22] <indus> maco: and you do? :D
[07:22] <visitor1> hi people, anybody managed to install inkscape 0.47 under xubuntu 9.4?
[07:23] <losha> indus: I disagree. 8.04 LTS gets important bugfixes without getting new features. Over time, that makes it more stable...
[07:23] <maco> indus: i was at UDS and in the kernel team sessions
[07:23] <indus> losha: yeah over time yes which is sad
[07:23] <indus> losha: it aint stable at release
[07:23] <armornick> losha: thanks for saying what I meant to say ;)
[07:23] <losha> jiga123123: I use 8.04 lts
[07:23] <draco1234> abhifx, try running the command "metacity --replace"
[07:23] <xonecas> Has anyone notice the same website and same browser displaying the fonts incorrectly in ubuntu and fine in windows ?
[07:23] <indus> maco: ook
[07:23] <Parsi> how to change user password via terminal?
[07:23] <jiga123123> indus: no hmm. I am just NEW to linux!)) that makes me stupid, yep.  would things like compiz and other stuff work on 8.10? wifi, lan, graphics, sound, all the stuff?
[07:24] <Billiard> visitor1: try installing from the package manager?
[07:24] <armornick> xonecas: the webmaster is using windows fonts
[07:24] <indus> Parsi: sudo passwd username
[07:24] <indus> jiga123123: naah use the latest ones for wireless etc working fine
[07:24] <Phoenix325> Alright, thanks draco1234 and armornick.
[07:24] <armornick> xonecas: you have to install the ms fonts
[07:24] <Parsi> indus: tnx
[07:24] <indus> jiga123123: very nice with 9.10 for wireless etc
[07:24] <jiga123123> losha: thanks! that's good motivation!))  do you have any problems with it?
[07:24] <xonecas> armornick, i have installed msttcorefonts
[07:24] <armornick> xonecas: then it should work
[07:24] <Phoenix325> I'll keep the "windows manager controlling from terminal thingy" in mind.
[07:25] <indus> so whats coming for 10.04
[07:25] <indus> just a cool splash?
[07:25] <xonecas> armornick, right, but it doesn't
[07:25] <xonecas> armornick, got any ideas for me ?
[07:25] <MisterK85> armornick: I installed it, it worked fine. I had to reboot and now it's not working again.
[07:25] <armornick> xonecas: which site, for example?
[07:25] <jiga123123> indus you saying that 8.04 won't support some of the hardware in my laptop?
[07:25] <xonecas> like mafia wars app in facebook
[07:25] <maco> jiga123123: potentially. if its new hardware thts only supported in newer kernels
[07:25] <visitor1> Billiard, it isnt offer, i downloaded inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb but i get an error : libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (>= 2.22.0)
[07:26] <armornick> MisterK85: strange, I'm using the same chip and it's working perfectly now :s
[07:26] <maco> jiga123123: however there are *some* hardware support backports to LTS releases
[07:26] <losha> indus: almost all software systems that get bugfixes become more stable over time. The primary cause of instability in software is new features. Honesty forces me to admit that occasionally bugfixes themselves can also destabilise a release...
[07:26] <MisterK85> It won't detect the card anymore.
[07:26] <xonecas> the fonts are displayed bigger, hence breaking the layout
[07:26] <maco> indus: on ubuntu desktop, i dont know. im a kubuntu person.
[07:26] <sumodumo> how do use emerald?
[07:27] <Phoenix325> Bye bye everyone.
[07:27] <Phoenix325> Thanks for the support, peace out.
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: please dont
[07:27] <losha> jiga123123: it's possible some of your hardware won't be supported. That's what the live cd is for, so you can test that without installing.
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: its crashy and unmaintained, so the bugs wont be fixed
[07:27] <sumodumo> maco: please dont?
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: upstream killed it off a long while ago
[07:27] <draco1234> sumodumo, yeah it's called compiz now
[07:27] <maco> draco1234: um no
[07:27] <sumodumo> LOL i know
[07:27] <soreau> draco1234: emerald is a window decorator for compiz
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo, draco1234: emerald is a window decorator for beryl or compiz fusion. emerald is not maintained anymore.
[07:28] <draco1234> yeah, exactly
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo, draco1234: gtk-window-decorator is more stable and can work with normal metacity themes
[07:28] <sumodumo> bleh but when i change my setting for compiz it doesnt do anything
[07:28] <armornick> xonecas: well it seems fine, but I don't know how it looks under windows
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo: change your setting for compiz?
[07:28] <Billiard> visitor1: inkscape is in the repos, you might have to add multiverse or universe
[07:28] <soreau> sumodumo: What setting are you changing and where?
[07:29] <sumodumo> maco: yea like you open up compiz and u change crap
[07:29] <maco> visitor1, Billiard: inkscape is in main
[07:29] <sumodumo> maco: like the effects
[07:29] <maco> sumodumo: uh huh...
[07:29] <Parsi> indus: can i change user permissions in terminal?
[07:29] <maco> sumodumo: which effect isnt working?
[07:29] <draco1234> sumodumo, enable desktop effects first
[07:30] <soreau> sumodumo: You need to enable compiz in sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects and set it to something other than None
[07:30] <visitor1> maco, Billiard , but not the latest 0.47 release?
[07:30] <sumodumo> draco1234: yea i cant the enabling part...sorry im noob
[07:30] <maco> visitor1: 0.47 pre4 is in 9.10
[07:30] <losha> Parsi: if you mean what I think you mean, then yes, using the chmod command. Try: man chmod
[07:30] <visitor1> maco but cant i use the final 0.47 version?
[07:31] <maco> visitor1: there may be a PPA somewhere...
[07:31] <maco> !ppa | visitor1
[07:31] <jiga123123> what is "backport" (ESL speaker)
[07:31] <draco1234> !backport
[07:31] <sumodumo> it says desktop effects cannot be enabled
[07:31] <visitor1> maco ubottu  i downloaded inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb but i get an error : libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (>= 2.22.0)
[07:31] <soreau> sumodumo: Which graphics card do you have?
[07:31] <armornick> jiga123123: a feature from a later version that's implanted into an earlier version
[07:32] <maco> visitor1: from where?
[07:32] <draco1234> sumodumo, maybe your video card can't handle it? What video card do you use?
[07:32] <sumodumo> idk. how do i tell. this is a pretty old comptuer
[07:32] <visitor1> maco Quelle: http://ppa.launchpad.net/popey/inkscape/ubuntu/pool/main/i/inkscape/inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:32] <soreau> sumodumo: lspci|grep VGA
[07:33] <sumodumo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[07:33] <maco> visitor1: add the ppa instead of downloading the deb on its own, that way apt can install the dependencies for you
[07:33] <jiga123123> losha, good reminder, appreciate it. you know the date to which 8.04 is supported?
[07:33] <losha> !lts
[07:33] <soreau> sumodumo: If you get compiz working with that card, it will be tricky. I am not sure if it has the required features that compiz needs to run
[07:34] <soreau> sumodumo: VIA has drivers for the CN896 and P4M900 chipsets which, according to the release notes, support AIGLX and compiz.  You can download the drivers here: http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action
[07:35] <draco1234> maco, orgy
[07:35] <maco> !language | draco1234
[07:35] <Kentoro> hey can anyone help me out
[07:35] <draco1234> !bot abuse | maco
[07:36] <soreau> Kentoro: Not if you dont ask your question
[07:36] <sumodumo> soreau:   i have 9.1 and they only have 9.04 listed. should i just use that driver?
[07:36] <Kentoro> im trying to watch a movie
[07:36] <soreau> sumodumo: Yes
[07:36] <Kentoro> i got vlc from software center
[07:36] <losha> jiga123123: per the above, 8.04 desktop will be supported until april 2011. Before then, there will be a new lts. If stability is your primary concern (it *is* mine) you can run only LTS releases...
[07:36] <Kentoro> still doesnt work, i dont understand mounting and everything
[07:36] <soreau> sumodumo: Actually, check sys>admin>hardware drivers first
[07:37] <sumodumo> soreau: gots nothing
[07:37] <Kentoro> says no proprietary drivers are in use
[07:37] <losha> jiga123123: as indus points out, even with lts releases, it pays to wait a few months before running them, as the longer you wait, the more stable they become...
[07:37] <visitor1> maco i just have to add the ppa website to synaptic packet management?
[07:38] <maco> visitor1: yeah it gives you the line to add i a little box on there
[07:38] <armornick> jiga123123: only insall an lts release after the previous one ends, is my guess
[07:38] <armornick> but I don't know what I'm talking about :p
[07:38] <Kentoro> anything else i could try or do
[07:38] <needsomeinfo>  my ubuntu 9.10 cracked ,and will only load grub...how do i fix it?:)
[07:38] <WeazelON> help guys, I've installed Bootup-Manager, and it seemed to messed up my ubuntu a bit :( , anyone knows about those things around here ?
[07:39] <Kentoro> anyone help me to watch a video
[07:39] <WeazelON> :(
[07:39] <Kentoro> sorry to be impatient, but im not used to getting my ass kicked by computer
[07:39] <sumodumo> how do i install the graphics card driver?
[07:39] <WeazelON> .
[07:39] <armornick> Kentoro: what problem are you having
[07:39] <armornick> WeazelON: did you disable something?
[07:39] <Kentoro> i put in disk to watch
[07:39] <Kentoro> cant play it
[07:39] <soreau> sumodumo: Does glxinfo|grep texture_from_pixmap  show anything?
[07:40] <losha> !multimedia
[07:40] <armornick> !medibuntu
[07:40] <linuxguy2009> Ok guys I removed pulseaudio from my 9.10 system and the volume control applet from the panel goes away permanently. I installed 'gnome-alsamixer' and I can put a launcher on the panel but Im wondering if there is a better alsa mixer GUI available?
[07:40] <Kentoro> not with video player, also downloaded vlc didnt help
[07:40] <Parsi> losha: I want to grant access to a specified user via terminal
[07:40] <jiga123123> losha, (it *is* mine) why is in start?
[07:40] <ShawnRisk> how do I know if my wireless settings are correct?  Everytime I try to enter the WEP Password, it doesn't connect.
[07:40] <sumodumo> soreau: the wat wat? sorry i just installed ubuntu 3 days ago
[07:40] <armornick> Kentoro: you need the libcss package from medibuntu
[07:40] <jiga123123> losha, (it *is* mine) why "is" in stars (*) in your reply?
[07:40] <Portunus> I am sorry if this is a stupid question but I can't seem to get into ##php, is there a problem?
[07:41] <WeazelON> armornick, well it first i didn't do anything.. after i've lost my timeout counter in the grub, i started enabling everything, now my ubuntu won't shutdown unless i press the power button manually, and cdrom is not unmounting properly, and virtualbox service is not even loaded
[07:41] <zcat[1]> armornick:  you mean libdvdcss2 ?
[07:41] <losha> jiga123123: for emphasis...
[07:41] <soreau> sumodumo: Same way you used lspci|grep VGA, instead do glxinfo|grep texture_from_pixmap
[07:41] <armornick> zcat[1]: yes
[07:41] <losha> jiga123123: for emphasis... Many people here think new features are more important than stability...
[07:41] <jiga123123> losha, oh, thanks. do you run fast or old pc?
[07:42] <armornick> WeazelON: are you sure you didn't disable the power management and stuff?
[07:42] <gnuyen> my trackpad on my macbook stops working on occasion, and I don't have a numpad to use mousekeys, is there any way to use the regular arrow keys for mouse keys?
[07:42] <nbros652> anyone know whether or not VNC screen sharing works via xmpp in Empathy for 8.10?
[07:43] <WeazelON> armornick, right now every service available in the Bum is checked
[07:43] <sumodumo> soreau: oh haha....    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
[07:43] <sumodumo>     GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[07:43] <MisterK85> armornick: I have no idea whats causing it now... it's just not detecting either network card.
[07:43] <losha> jiga123123: I run both. A Q6600 at home,. an old pentium 2.4Ghz away, and a 1.6 celeron on my laptop. All 8.04...
[07:43] <zugiart> Hey all just wanna say, that you are all awesome. Especially those of you who are helping others in the ways of ubuntu, kudos to you all
[07:43] <soreau> sumodumo: Ok, can you try glxinfo|grep renderer
[07:44] <sumodumo> soreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome (KM400) 20060710 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
[07:44] <ardchoille> gnuyen: yes, system > preferences > keyboard and see the mouse keys tab
[07:44] <armornick> MisterK85: that's too advanced for me to solve, sorry
[07:44] <MisterK85> lol, it went to one, to two, to none.
[07:44] <soreau> sumodumo: You might be in good fortune.. pastebin the output of SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz &
[07:45] <armornick> WeazelON: well, I haven't used bum in a long time, so I don't know how to help you with that, sorry
[07:45] <gnuyen> ardchoille, I don't see any options to change it from numeric keypad to regular keys, my keyboard odesn't have a numeric keypad
[07:45] <WeazelON> darn
[07:45] <indus> jiga123123: for example, there is a realease of 8.04.2 which is more stable and updated than the original
[07:45] <sumodumo> soreau: is that a command?
[07:45] <bigmack83_> are there any tools in ubuntu to recover lost data from deleted partitions?
[07:45] <soreau> sumodumo: Yes
[07:45] <Flannel> Portunus: You may need to be identified/registered with freenode
[07:45] <ardchoille> gnuyen: Ah, ok, sorry about that
[07:45] <Flannel> !register > Portunus
[07:45] <indus> jiga123123: the .2 stands for point release, which was released after about 6 months i believe
[07:45] <sumodumo> soreau: cuz i got
[07:45] <Portunus> Flannel: thank you
[07:45] <soreau> ! pastebin | sumodumo
[07:46] <dragonmere> what up, all?
[07:46] <Kentoro> downloaded the libdvd files now when I click open movie player it just makes my dvd player run and then dissapears
[07:46] <losha> bigmack83_: there is testdisk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:47] <jiga123123> indus where can i get that .2??? and another q: why is .2not called 8.10?
[07:47] <Kentoro> says could not read from resource
[07:47] <Kentoro> anything else I should do
[07:47] <armornick> Kentoro: did you install the package?
[07:47] <indus> jiga123123: because the packages havent changed , it uses the 8.04 kernel and other package versions etc
[07:47] <maco> jiga123123: theyre just snapshots of all updates up to a certain point
[07:47] <Kentoro> the libdvd packages, not the libcss packages
[07:47] <sumodumo> soreau: i did it and i got logged out
[07:47] <maco> jiga123123: think like a service pack
[07:48] <bigmack83_> losha, thanks
[07:48] <indus> jiga123123: the 8.04 you download today is automatically 8.04.2
[07:48] <visitor1> maco i am stupid i cant find the right line to add to synaptic?
[07:48] <armornick> Kentoro: a commercial dvd uses css as protection
[07:48] <soreau> sumodumo: Well I guess the drivers you have installed currently or your card cant handle compiz
[07:48] <Kentoro> there are four different libcss files
[07:48] <indus> jiga123123: in fact now its .3
[07:48] <sumodumo> soreau: damn. i guess i go buy a new card. thanks anyways!
[07:48] <Kentoro> perl, minifier, tiny and squish
[07:49] <soreau> sumodumo: I recommend ATI
[07:49] <sumodumo> soreau: kk
[07:49] <jiga123123> indus, where i go to download it?
[07:49] <maco> visitor1: see where it says "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:popey/inkscape  to your system's Software Sources." ?
[07:49] <seidos> sumodumo: i would do research before buying a card
[07:49] <indus> jiga123123: which version are you using now?
[07:49] <jiga123123> ubuntu.com gives 9.109
[07:49] <indus> jiga123123: check under www.ubuntu.com/downloads
[07:49] <dragonmere> Quickie question... Does 'fdisk -l' list removable (USB) media, or just local drives?
[07:50] <indus> dragonmere: all
[07:50] <jiga123123> right now i am using 9.10 xfce version. and i will format the hdd soon to make everything fresh and install some x64 windows for the first time...
[07:50] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[07:50] <sumodumo> seidos: thanks for the input.
[07:50] <sumodumo> nite ppl
[07:50] <dragonmere> thank you! trying to run fsck.dos on my ipod, wasn't 100% on where it was living in /dev/
[07:50] <Kentoro> is it really this hard to watch a movie?
[07:50] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the problem
[07:51] <armornick> Kentoro: if you want, install linux mint; it can play dvd's by default
[07:51] <soreau> Kentoro: What type of media are you trying to play?
[07:51] <dragonmere> thanks again
[07:51] <ShawnRisk> indus: the problem is that I am trying to connect to my wireless router, and everytime I enter the password, the box just reappears again without any errors.
[07:51] <armornick> Kentoro: oh wait, did you run the commandline script after installing libdvdcss?
[07:51] <jiga123123> indus, i am downloading it, thanks
[07:51] <Kentoro> ? lmao armor, no clue
[07:51] <ShawnRisk> indus: I am not able to connect
[07:52] <nbros652> Sorry, trying to find out if screen sharing is supported in Empathy for 8.04 NOT 8.10
[07:52] <indus> jiga123123: you found 8.04?
[07:52] <gnuyen> in firefox is there a keyboard command that brings up the context menu?
[07:52] <indus> jiga123123: its under alternate installers which opens up more options
[07:52] <Kentoro> i went to synaptic manager and there is no file called libdvdcss
[07:52] <indus> ShawnRisk: enter password where?
[07:53] <Kentoro> there was libdvd and libcss i donwloaded all of the options available
[07:53] <jiga123123> indus, yes, .3 is there!))and already on my hard drive. does the software like compiz(i wanna try it) and other software care about which version of linux i use?
[07:53] <jiga123123> or does it not matter really?
[07:53] <armornick> Kentoro: you should add medibuntu
[07:53] <indus> jiga123123: already downloaded?
[07:54] <ShawnRisk> indus:  I just hit the icon on the top right and click on the right wireless network and than enter the password when the box comes up.
[07:54] <armornick> Kentoro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing%20Encrypted%20DVDs
[07:54] <jiga123123> indus, yes.)) it was quite fast i'd say)
[07:54] <indus> jiga123123: what speed is ur conection?
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: you mean in network applet
[07:55] <Kentoro> how do i get medibuntu
[07:55] <losha> jiga123123: be sure to check the md5sum of the iso...
[07:55] <vik> hello, I'm trying to find drivers for Logitech quickcam, I was trying to compile them myself, but no luck. Here is the output of "make all": http://pastebin.com/m6a72c822 I would appreaciate if you could tell me what the problem is, because I do not understand nothing in there. Thanks indeed
[07:55] <losha> !md5sum
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: check output of iwconfig
[07:55] <jiga123123> indus it depends on what i am downloading and where from. different test give me different speed, so i am not sure.
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: paste it
[07:55] <tapio> How can I figure out which package a specified file belongs to?
[07:55] <jiga123123> losha how to check that?
[07:55] <losha> !md5sum | jiga123123
[07:56] <losha> !medibuntu | Kentoro
[07:56] <Kentoro> !medibuntu
[07:56] <ShawnRisk> indus: okay, there is a wlan0 and everything looks normal.
[07:56] <mpontillo>  tapio: dpkg -S <path-to-file>
[07:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm what wireless router
[07:57] <indus> !wireless | ShawnRisk have you read this one?
[07:57] <tapio> mpontillo: Thanks ;)
[07:57] <Toad> boy, that was fun
[07:57] <Toad> first reboot in karmic and I got a kernel panic
[07:57] <visitor1> maco i am stupid its doesnt take deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386?
[07:57] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes and it isn't the router as I am connected to it now
[07:57] <Toad> one of these days I will have a flawless linux install/upgrade :)
[07:58] <indus> ShawnRisk: no internet you mean
[07:58] <maco> visitor1: jaunty? this ppa is for karmic
[07:58] <armornick> Kentoro: follow the link I sent you
[07:58] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes
[07:58] <losha> Toad: not if you insist on using the latest releases you won't....
[07:58] <indus> ShawnRisk:how you on irc
[07:58] <Kentoro> says unable to lock the administration directory
[07:58] <visitor1> maco i have xubuntu 9.04
[07:59] <ShawnRisk> indus: connect to wireless router
[07:59] <Kentoro> is another process using it
[07:59] <Toad> losha: nah, this has happened to me pretty much every upgrade/install I've done in the last ten years, regardless of version
[07:59] <Toad> (on desktop hardware. server hardware's usually OK)
[07:59] <maco> visitor1: you need 9.10
[07:59] <jiga123123> losha where do i find the md5sum for that cd image? what do i check against?
[07:59] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the make of your router
[07:59] <Toad> granted I'm usually running on something reasonably oddball. no idea what the issue was this time thoguh
[07:59] <Kentoro> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[08:00] <soreau> Kentoro: What are you trying to do?
[08:00] <Toad> but managed to boot from grub manually specifying stripped down cmdline... will figure out the issue tomorrow I guess
[08:00] <visitor1> maco i see but i dont want to update now, thanks for your help :)
[08:00] <Kentoro> install medibuntu so I can watch a dvd
[08:00] <indus> ShawnRisk: got to go now , lunch
[08:00] <soreau> ! dvd | Kentoro
[08:00] <Kentoro> followed link, put into terminal
[08:01] <ShawnRisk> indus: 2Wire Gateway
[08:01] <arghh2d2> !ping
[08:01] <losha> jiga123123: usually the same place as you got the iso in a file called MD5SUMS e.g. http://ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/8.04.3/MD5SUMS
[08:02] <crohakon> How do I create a new "place" in the "places" menu for a NFS? I don't want it to auto mount at boot, I just want the ability to click the icon in the "places" menu much like I do with my Vista HD
[08:03] <arghh2d2> thats a #gnome question
[08:03] <arghh2d2> imo
[08:03] <gorgonzola> yes. in kde is left click and "Add entry"
[08:03] <crohakon> oh
[08:04] <switchgirl> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113904869998 ubuntu womens facebook group if interested
[08:04] <arghh2d2> i bet more men then women click on tht url
[08:04] <jiga123123> thanks guys, "check sums are same" why did i need that check?
[08:04] <DuckGod> my internet connection icon on my top panel dissapeared......how can i get it back?
[08:05] <Draconis> what do you guys recommend? last.fm or pandora? :)
[08:05] <Visitor15> Draconis: last.fm
[08:05]  * maco clicks just to screw up arghh2d2's bet
[08:05] <losha> jiga123123: because your download seemed very quick, I was worried you didn't get the entire file. But the md5sum confirms it's good...
[08:06] <Draconis> thanks :) currently using last.fm ... I just hear so much talk about pandora these days
[08:06] <arghh2d2> pandora > last.fm because of the music genome project
[08:06] <Draconis> arghh2d2, eh?
[08:07] <switchgirl> arghh2d2, its open to all
[08:07] <jiga123123> losha, i used Reget this particular time, pretty nice software, it speed up, and i think it minimizes errors... does something like that for linux?
[08:07] <Visitor15> I've been using Last.fm since 2006.. Tried Pandora, but didn't like it nearly as much.
[08:07] <Kentoro> alright vlc can now play it, but its choppy and broken, still cant play with default player
[08:08] <arghh2d2> i've been using pandora for a long time...tried last.fm once and was like pffft whatever, right back to pandora
[08:08] <Draconis> heh crap, sounds like a preference thing
[08:08] <losha> jiga123123: someone said Gwget was good. I've never tried it myself...
[08:08] <hyperstream> how can i get bigger than 1024 resolution on my Hitachi CM811 Plus, i belive its not detecting my monitor
[08:09] <arghh2d2> yeah except last.fm is the imitator and pandora is the imitated
[08:09] <Draconis> really? I thought last.fm was first
[08:09] <Toad> yea audioscrobbler is really old
[08:09] <judgen> is there a gui app to create gnome icon-themes?
[08:09] <Toad> think it predates pandora
[08:09] <Toad> also, last.fm uses debian :)
[08:09] <arghh2d2> but last.fm doesnt use the music genome project it just recommends crap that other people like
[08:10] <Toad> "music genome project" is just marketing BS for lack of good technology on pandora's side
[08:10] <jiga123123> losha is it fine that i burn cd images on dvd-disk all the time and use them to install linux?
[08:10] <ardchoille> !ot
[08:10] <arghh2d2> lmao at Toad
[08:10] <losha> jiga123123: it should be fine...
[08:10] <jiga123123> losha, should?
[08:11] <hyperstream> is there a way i can tell x what monitor im using?
[08:11] <hyperstream> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work ;/
[08:11] <arghh2d2> Toad: mgp is way more than that
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | lein See the error 15 section if you upgraded from grub legacy
[08:11] <hyperstream> !monitor
[08:11] <Toad> arghh2d2: we're OT like ardchoille said, but... where are all the ISMIR papers from the pandora folks?
[08:11] <mpontillo> DuckGod: the "internet conenction" icon is the network manager applet. it appears in the notification area (the same one that contains the volume icon). is the volume icon still there?
[08:11] <DuckGod> no
[08:12] <ShawnRisk> :(
[08:12] <DuckGod> it has done this a few times....why?
[08:12] <losha> jiga123123: Usually a CD image is burned to a CD, not a DVD. I think it will still work though. As long as it boots, you'll be fine...
[08:12] <mpontillo> DuckGod: in that case, right click the panel, click "add to panel", select "notification area" and click "add" to see if it comes back.
[08:12] <ardchoille> losha: I've burned the ubuntu livecd to a blank dvd before and it worked fine
[08:13] <arghh2d2> Toad: what? what is ISMIR?
[08:13] <jiga123123> guys, sorry for the offtopic questions, but the company sponsoring ubuntu, how does it benefit? just wondering what's really behind ubuntu
[08:13] <ardchoille> arghh2d2 , Toad Please take this to another channel
[08:13] <losha> ardchoille: jiga123123: I thought I had too, but it was a long time ago...
[08:13] <maco> jiga123123: selling technical support contracts and services to OEMs like Dell who want to make sure their hardware works with Ubuntu
[08:13] <Toad> arghh2d2: ismir.net - the main journal/conference for music information retrieval research
[08:13] <maco> jiga123123: er, tech support contracts are to users and/or companies who want to do large deployments
[08:14] <Toad> anyway, gotta run, but do some reading - pandora is low on tech, high on labor
[08:14] <Toad> not saying I don't like their service, I actually use it plenty :)
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[08:15] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[08:15] <Kentoro> ive done everything those links said to do, i still cant watch dvd
[08:15] <jiga123123> maco, is that really one and the main thing? i'd think they have some other occupations as well.  how did it start, canonical?
[08:15] <EvaLuaTe> after upgrading to karmic, in the main menu, I don't get any icons for the 'places', 'system', 'lock screen' and 'shutdown' entries. Any idea what the problem could be?
[08:16] <hyperstream> is there a GUI i can install to change my monitor screen and its resolutions?
[08:16] <avishek> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 server. Could anyone advise please on how to change the timeout for the monitor going to sleep?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> hyperstream: System > Preferences > Displays
[08:16] <maco> jiga123123: can we take this to PM as it's offtopic?
[08:16] <Kentoro> any other ideas?
[08:16] <jiga123123> avishek, would power options not work?
[08:16] <losha> jiga123123: http://www.canonical.com/
[08:17] <hyperstream> Jordan_U, its an nvidia panel, i cannot choose my monitor model , and resoultion is set to 1024
[08:17] <avishek> jiga123123: I tried setterm options, but it doesn't seem to work.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> jiga123123: Mark Shuttleworth had some money left over after paying to be a spaxe tourist and likes open source :)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> jiga123123: s/spaxe/space/
[08:18] <rww> EvaLuaTe: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Interface -> Show icons in menus
[08:18] <Jordan_U> hyperstream: Sounds like a driver problem. Have you installed the proprietary nvidia drivers with System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[08:19] <hyperstream> yes
[08:19] <piquadrat_> Hi! I have a problem with VirtualBox and sound. I read somewhere that forcing VirtualBox to use PulseAudio instead of ALSA helps. But how can I force VB to use PulseAudio?
[08:19] <EvaLuaTe> rww: wow, awesome. Thank you very much.
[08:19] <rww> EvaLuaTe: You're welcome :)
[08:19] <diddy> Is there a way to set up /tmp so that its content is not deleted on each reboot?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> diddy: Why?
[08:19] <hyperstream> Jordan_U,  its cool mate, i wont bother , this is the missu's pc my pc is at work has a GX260 and this machine only has 6600, Hence why its fine at my work place :P
[08:20] <diddy> Jordan_U, because I want to decide when to delete stuff there.
[08:21] <Kentoro> ill ask more people tommorow about my question, thanks for trying to help
[08:21] <bigmack83_> i have an ntfs partition that was deleted, but has not been formatted over. is there a way i can just re-enable the ntfs partition without formatting the unallocated space on my drive?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> diddy: Most of the files are deleted by the programs that created them when they stop, are there particular files you'd like to save?
[08:22] <tiaray> Hi all!!!
[08:22] <Jordan_U> bigmack83_: How did you "delete" it?
[08:22] <TPS> I just tried to install Ubuntu
[08:23] <TPS> And aborted installation
[08:23] <TPS> AFTER partition
[08:23] <xgpt> hello
[08:23] <xgpt> is anyone still awake?
[08:23] <losha> diddy: check out /etc/init.d/bootclean
[08:23] <TPS> I specified installing side-by-side
[08:23] <TPS> Now I'm reinstalling
[08:23] <diddy> Jordan_U, no. I installed Ubuntu 9.10 fresh and made the /tmp partition 15GB. I thought I could file sharing, tmp downloads there, bittorrent seeds, etc. Now I realized that everything there gets deleted on each reboot.
[08:23] <TPS> And the old side-by-side partition is there
[08:23] <rww> bigmack83_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery might be helpful
[08:23] <TPS> What do I select at the partition screen this time ?
[08:23] <TPS> Please help..
[08:23] <bigmack83_> i was extending the partition to the left (in gparted) and shortly after trying to copy the data (automated by gparted) my computer lost power. so now the space to the left of the original partition is a valid partition and where the original partition was, is unallocated space
[08:23] <tiaray> I'm having < can anyone please tell what is "initramfs"
[08:24] <bigmack83_> rww, tyvm
[08:24] <mattcen> diddy: There's no reason you can't create another tmp directory e.g. /share, with the same permissions as /tmp and use that instead for what you want.
[08:24] <diddy> losha, there is no such file
[08:24] <Jordan_U> diddy: You can simply mount that partition to /media/files and then /tmp will be on / and you can use the partition how you like
[08:24] <tiaray> can anyone please tell what is "initramfs" when ubuntu9.10 boots up
[08:24] <Billiard> bigmack83_: you can recreate the partition without formatting in the same place to recover it, im sure there are programs to search for the position of a lost partition if you dont know the exact location
[08:25] <diddy> mattcen, yes but now it is too late. I made /tmp 15GB and I don't want to waste 15GB
[08:25] <Jordan_U> diddy: You can simply mount that partition to /media/files and then /tmp will be on / and you can use the partition how you like no need to waste the space
[08:25] <bigmack83_> Billiard, well im scanning the drive with testdisk, but its a rather large drive (1TB) so its going to take ages.
[08:25] <TPS> ..Anyone read my messages ?
[08:25] <diddy> Jordan_U, really?
[08:26] <mattcen> diddy: So boot into single user mode (or off a LiveCD), unmount that partition as /tmp, and remount it as /share. Then create /tmp on the root filesystem.
[08:26] <Jordan_U> diddy: Yes, just edit your /etc/fstab ( If you need help with specifics feel free to ask )
[08:26] <diddy> ok, thx
[08:26] <losha> diddy: well, there is on 8.04. Go to /etc/init.d and grep for tmp. Also, I think directories in /tmp don't get deleted, only files, so you could try that. But note that you adopted the wrong solution really, since you don't want a system that will stop working because you filled up /tmp inadvertently with downloaded files...
[08:27] <wrektjet> hey i a usb drive that used to show up automatically if i had to restart for some reason. lately ive had to pull it out and pop it back in for it to register. is there a better way?
[08:27] <bigmack83_> rww, thanks it looks like info on there should help me.
[08:27] <kekale> anyone have an idea about script-based user management? Especially: how to add users using a script that does not have to be run as root? Is that even possible?
[08:28] <avishek> How would I disable monitor sleep on Ubuntu Server 9.10?
[08:28] <rww> bigmack83_: you're welcome; good luck :)
[08:28] <Jordan_U> kekale: Why do you want non root users adding users?
[08:28] <losha> avishek: are you sure it's not internal to the monitor?
[08:28] <TPS> What do I set as mount point ?
[08:28] <TPS> Just "/" ?
[08:29] <bigmack83_> rww, thx
[08:29] <avishek> losha: I'm sorry, I don't quite follow what you mean.
[08:29] <kekale> Jordan_U, www-data would like to do that, not regular users :D
[08:29] <rww> avishek: did you try "setterm -powersave off -blank 0" already?
[08:29] <kekale> Jordan_U, and the reason is, as you might be able to deduce from my answer, that I would have a php script that would enable adding users
[08:29] <avishek> losha: But I have two machines with Ubuntu Server 9.10 installed, with 2 different monitors, and both go off at 10 minutes
[08:29] <losha> TPS: do you have data you need to save? If not, just select 'use entire disk' during partitioning and install will wipe all the partitions and start from scratch
[08:30] <TPS> losha: I have a Windows 7 partition
[08:30] <avishek> rww: I tried setterm, but not with blank 0, I'll give it a try
[08:30] <losha> avishek: ok, probably not done inside the monitors then...
[08:30] <TPS> losha: I have a Windows 7 partition and another partition from when I installed Ubuntu side-by-side
[08:30] <kekale> One way would be to add www-data as a sudoer I guess... but that would be a terribly bad one, I guess.
[08:30] <floppyears> does anybody here know if boxee works on karmic ?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> kekale: You can do that with just /etc/sudoers and useradd but I really suggest you find a pre-made, maintained, and well security audited solution instead
[08:31] <Nyha1> The sound on my eeepc is all f****ed up... when I mute the speakers give me sparkling sound and so on and when the volume goes up its the same...
[08:31] <TPS> losha: But I aborted the installation and the partition is still there
[08:31] <TPS> So I install side-by-side again ?
[08:31] <kekale> Jordan_U, probably the best idea. Any pointers? *g*
[08:32] <Jordan_U> kekale: Only thing I can think of off hand is landscape but that's proprietary and costs money
[08:32] <losha> TPS: first, make a backup of your windows system. How big is the new partition you made?
[08:32] <xgpt> can anyone here suggest a good *general* server help channel/
[08:32] <xgpt> ?
[08:32] <TPS> 420.2 GB
[08:32] <TPS> @losha
[08:33] <TPS> Then what do I do after that ?
[08:33] <kekale> oh dear, money is an issue. Thanks anyway Jordan_U :D
[08:33] <avishek> rww: I've followed your advice. Thank you! I'll let you know if it works.
[08:33] <losha> TPS: that's pretty large. Any unallocate space left on the disk?
[08:33] <TPS> Nope
[08:34] <TPS> Just two partitions
[08:34] <losha> TPS: and how much ram?
[08:34] <TPS> I have 8 GB of RAM
[08:34] <plague> TPS nice rig
[08:34] <TPS> Thanks plague
[08:35] <TPS> I think if I install side-by-side, it'll just made a third partition
[08:35] <TPS> So should I delete the old Ubuntu partition and then install on that free space ?
[08:35] <rww> TPS: yes
[08:35] <TPS> What do I make the root ?
[08:35] <TPS> Just "/" ?
[08:36] <losha> TPS: the best setup is to have 2 ubuntu partitions: one for / (about 10G) and the rest for /home. Use a partitioner to do that. Choose ext3 format.
[08:36] <TPS> Oh, okay
[08:36] <virgil> hi guys
[08:36] <TPS> I think I can set that up
[08:36] <TPS> Why two, though ?
[08:36] <losha> TPS: you can do that from the live cd, using gparted.
[08:37] <TPS> losha: I can, but I'm also already in the partitioner, and I can change it there as well
[08:37] <ardchoille> TPS: If you put /home on its own partiton, you can save your $HOME if you ever have to reinstall the OS
[08:37] <losha> TPS: one for the OS, the other for any files/data. That way, you can upgrade the OS without losing/changing any data
[08:37] <TPS> Ah, okay
[08:37] <losha> TPS: you can stick it all on one partition if you want, but this will be easier for later upgrades...
[08:38] <TPS> So ext3 is better than ext4 ?
[08:38] <ardchoille> TPS: more stable, less problems
[08:38] <losha> TPS: ext3 is better for *beginners*....
[08:38] <TPS> Thanks
[08:38] <TPS> I'm definitely a beginner
[08:38] <losha> TPS: which os version are you installing, by the way?
[08:39] <TPS> So "/" should be 10000 MB ?
[08:39] <TPS> 9.10
[08:39] <kharloss> hi there. i try recompile the kernel with latest version. At Processor family  is checked "Pentium Pro " option , but my CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz . I`m sure i have to recheck another option but i found 3 Xeon alternatives ... " 1) Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon "   2) Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine)    3) Core 2/newer Xeon . which one i have to chose ?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> kekale: Possibly ebox
[08:39] <losha> TPS: yes, actually I'd make that 10240MB, but it doesn't have to be exact...
[08:40] <TPS> And that's the one I install on ?
[08:40] <losha> TPS: you need to tell the installer that this one will be the / (root) partition
[08:40] <stix> HI guys. Everytime I hibernate my Ubuntu, it starts up right away again. What could be wrong?
[08:41] <sumodumo> did u install with with wubi?
[08:41] <TPS> losha: I told it to make the mount point "/"
[08:41] <TPS> Is that correct ?
[08:41] <losha> TPS: good. Now make another partition, using the rest of the disk (or less, if you want some space leftover for yet another OS, and tell the partitioner it is /home
[08:42] <TPS> Also Ext3, I assume ? @losha
[08:42] <Guest54220> can anyone tell me wht is under /var/www ??
[08:42] <Ddorda> can anyone check for me if the app touchfreeze shows in the software centre? (i'm not on 9.10 atm)
[08:42] <losha> TPS: yes, both ext3
[08:42] <stix> Guest11270, ls /var/www ?
[08:42] <TPS> Okay, and that's /home
[08:42] <TPS> And GRUB will recognise this when I boot ?
[08:42] <ardchoille> Guest54220: Usually reserved for web server content
[08:43] <idiot> losha>	i have just deleted it by mistake
[08:43] <losha> TPS: ok, so you should have 3 partitions: windows, / and /home
[08:43] <Guest23228> i was supposed to delete a folder under it
[08:43] <TPS> losha: I do
[08:43] <Guest23228> losha : i was supposed to delete a folder under it
[08:43] <ardchoille> Guest23228: Are you running some type of server?
[08:44] <Guest23228> but by mistake i deleted /var/www,
[08:44] <losha> TPS: good. I don't remember what comes next in the install, offhand....
[08:44] <Guest23228> yes. ubuntu 8.04
[08:44] <TPS> Next is "Who are you ?"
[08:44] <ardchoille> Guest23228: no, I mean a web server
[08:44] <losha> TPS: very good, proceed....
[08:44] <TPS> Wait, losha
[08:44] <Guest23228> how do i find out
[08:44] <Jordan_U> kekale: ebox has the ability to add users and looks active / well maintained. Don't know how secure it is but it's certainly something to look at
[08:44] <TPS> There's a 9.4 GB of linux-swap
[08:45] <OSGUIAnon> box380
[08:45] <TPS> And a 100 MB ntfs
[08:45] <ardchoille> Guest23228: Did you install apache?
[08:45] <TPS> Is that supposed to be there ?
[08:45] <avishek> rww: it works! Thank you very much for your help -- I really appreciate it!
[08:45] <rww> avishek: You're welcome!
[08:45] <Guest23228> losha > hmmyea i guess
[08:46] <losha> TPS: usually with 8GB of ram, you won't need a swap partition. Where did the 100MB ntfs come from?
[08:46] <losha> Guest23228: why are you talking to me?
[08:46] <TPS> I think from the first time I installed Ubuntu
[08:46] <TPS> When I aborted
[08:46] <ajay-tech> hi
[08:46] <ardchoille> TPS: Is this a 64 bit system?
[08:46] <TPS> Yes
[08:46] <ardchoille> ok
[08:47] <ardchoille> TPS: And you're installing the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[08:47] <om26er> !hi | ajay-tech
[08:47] <TPS> ardchoille: I believe so, yes
[08:47] <ardchoille> ok
[08:48] <losha> TPS: can you list the partitions, in order, giving their size and type. I want to be sure:
[08:48] <ajay-tech> most of the times i have seen 100mb ntfs is when windows has the bootloader
[08:49] <losha> ajay-tech: makes sense. Better not to delete it in that case :-)
[08:49] <Guest23228> thanks guys
[08:49] <gusty_> hi. i can i try xfce without installing xubuntu?
[08:49] <TPS> losha: sda1 (ntfs): 100 MB / sda2 (ntfs): 501.8 GB / sda 6 (ext3): 9.5 GB / sda7 (ext3): 410.7 GB  / sda5 (linux-swap): 9.4 GB
[08:49] <Guest23228> sorry i just restored it from backups
[08:50] <TPS> losha: sda6 is  "/"
[08:50] <gusty_> hi. i can i try xfce without installing xubuntu?
[08:50] <TPS> losha: sda7 is "/home"
[08:50] <ajay-tech> or it may be bios
[08:50] <kirun> a
[08:50] <kirun> semarang
[08:50] <rww> gusty_: yes. Install the `xfce4' or `xubuntu-desktop' package.
[08:51] <losha> TPS: definitely leave those ntfs filesystems alone! The rest looks fine. Might as well keep the swap partition for now. I think you're ready to proceed....
[08:51] <gusty_> rww: are both same?
[08:51] <TPS> Thanks losha !
[08:51]  * TPS proceeds
[08:51] <ardchoille> TPS: are all of those partitions on one hard drive?
[08:51] <TPS> Yes
[08:52] <stevr1it> probelm with metacity, it works only with effects "normal" if it set the creen with nothing it does not work and the frames are disappearing. can you help me?
[08:52] <ajay-tech> how many operating systems do u have?
[08:52] <ajay-tech> TPS?
[08:53] <TPS> Oh, sorry ajay-tech
[08:53] <TPS> On this HD, I plan to have two
[08:53] <TPS> Currently only one
[08:53] <TPS> Installing a second
[08:53] <Samuli^> I'd give ubuntu a little more than 9.5 GB if I had that much space.
[08:54] <ajay-tech> because i have had that and made one partition smaller and linux didn't know where it was
[08:54] <TPS> Ah
[08:54] <montom> Hi guys i have a Toshiba satellite L505D, i installed Ubuntu 9.10 Alternate, it worked fine for about a week then today
[08:54] <TPS> Samuli^: Well, that was just the root
[08:54] <TPS> My home folder is big
[08:54] <Samuli^> TPS, I was talking about the root, yes.
[08:55] <TPS> Do I need more than 9.5 ?
[08:55] <ajay-tech> montom what is wrong?
[08:55] <Samuli^> to be honest... probably not. But what if you do? :)
[08:55] <montom> when i turned my machine on i got this error Invalid
[08:55] <TPS> Samuli^: I reinstall, yet another time ;_;
[08:55] <ajay-tech> was that grub?
[08:55] <losha> TPS: 10G should be plenty for now. You'll be able to resize later if necessary...
[08:55] <montom> invalid enviorment block, failed to boot default entries
[08:55] <TPS> losha: I agree
[08:56] <Cheph> Hello all I am having truble booting ubuntu. you see I upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 recently but accedentaly left my ubuntu 9.10 install CD in my disck trey and now whenever I try to boot Ubuntu I get the following error (after grub but befor login screen): "init: mountall main process (909) terminated with status 3 mount of filesystem failed" does anyone e any ideas on how to rescue my ubuntu?
[08:56] <ajay-tech> mon that is grub loosing the partiton
[08:56] <montom> what do i do?
[08:56] <losha> TPS: I have to go, it's 1pm here, ok?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> ajay-tech: montom: Not that is not what it is
[08:56] <om26er> losha: where you live?
[08:56] <TPS> losha: Okay, thanks for all your help
[08:57] <ajay-tech> looking into it now
[08:57] <losha> om26er: California
[08:57] <Draconis> pppsh
[08:57] <TPS> I think he meant 1 AM
[08:57] <om26er> losha: then that would be i.am iguess
[08:57] <losha> TPS: sigh, I did mean 1am. I'm tired :-)
[08:57] <TPS> It's 4 AM here
[08:57] <Draconis> California did something weird yesterday
[08:57] <TPS> (Atlanta)
[08:57] <om26er> 2pm
[08:57] <TPS> I've been trying to get my computer back straight since midnight
[08:57] <ajay-tech> its 7:57 pm here Australia
[08:58] <TPS> Been a long night
[08:58] <soreau> losha: You mean 1am
[08:58] <Samuli^> 11 am here
[08:58] <Jordan_U> montom: Boot a 9.10 liveCD, mount your Ubuntu partition to /mnt and run "sudo grub-editenv /mnt/boot/grub/grubenv create"
[08:58] <om26er> !time > om26er
[08:58] <ajay-tech> ty jordan
[08:59] <Jordan_U> montom: When you are booted into Ubuntu make sure to update since that bug was fixed a while ago
[08:59] <TPS> 62%
[08:59] <Jordan_U> ajay-tech: np
[08:59] <montom> thanks Jordan_U
[08:59] <Jordan_U> montom: np
[09:01] <ajay-tech> also i found a good linux comunity called osgui you can find it in google
[09:01] <Arc> does anyone know what usb hid debug tools are available on jaunty?
[09:01] <Arc> er, karmic
[09:02] <ajay-tech> nope sorry Arc i dont know any
[09:02] <khelvan> Hello, I am trying to compile fuppes from svn, and I am getting this error, can anyone help me understand it? /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libavformat.a(allformats.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `aac_demuxer' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[09:02] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to connect to my wireless but I can't seem to figure this out.  I am connected on my Mac Laptop but not on my Ubuntu 9.10.  I can see the wireless connection but when I try to connect it doesn't give me an error at all.  Any ideas?
[09:03] <ajay-tech> Shawn have u tried just ubuntu by itself? without mac
[09:03] <Jordan_U> TPS: What problem are you having?
[09:03] <TPS> Jordan_U: I was not sure how to specify partitions when installing
[09:03] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk do you configure your connection manually, or using network manager? And do you use Static IP or DHCP?
[09:03] <TPS> Now the installer supposedly finished
[09:04] <TPS> My display is black and in standby
[09:04] <TPS> And it isn't restarting or anything, though...
[09:04] <Muddleworth> !orgy | maco
[09:04] <Arc> i have a EMSUSB2 that doesnt seem to work on 9.10
[09:04] <TPS> Kinda worried that it won't work
[09:04] <TPS> Sigh
[09:04] <Jordan_U> TPS: Just wiggle the mouse / press shift. That's just the screen blanking from inactivity
[09:04] <ShawnRisk> littlegreen: both manually and network connections.  As for static ip or dhcp it is dhcp I think.
[09:05] <TPS> Jordan_U: HAHAHA
[09:05] <TPS> Thanks !
[09:05] <Jordan_U> TPS: np :)
[09:05] <TPS> If I realised that last time, instead of just turning off my PC
[09:05] <TPS> I would've saved an hour of my time
[09:05] <gusty_> can i get .img file instead of .iso?
[09:05] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk So... your Ubuntu machine doesn't aquire IP address or... what happens? Does it detect the security protocol automatically or you don't have one?
[09:06] <acfrazier> Alright I just want to make sure this isn't a palimpsest bug, but it's reporting that I have over 200,000 bad sectors, should I be concerned about replacing the drive?
[09:06] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk what router/access point do you use?
[09:06] <Jordan_U> gusty_: You can get a .img file for Ubuntu Netboot Remix
[09:06] <rww> gusty_: what do you want to use the .img file for?
[09:06] <gusty_> Jordan_U: can i convert iso to img?
[09:07] <gusty_> rww: i want a img file for ubuntu destop alternate
[09:08] <TPS> Arghhh
[09:08] <gusty_> rww: and my cd writer is damaged
[09:08] <TPS> This happened last time
[09:08] <TPS> I don't know why
[09:08] <TPS> But my displays are backwards
[09:08] <ShawnRisk> littlegreen: it doesn't automatically get the security protocol and I am using WEP.  I am using 2Wire Gateway.
[09:08] <TPS> It puts the applications, places, system
[09:08] <TPS> On the wrong monitor
[09:08] <rww> gusty_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[09:08] <TPS> Now it just fixed itself randomly
[09:08] <w9> ore
[09:08] <TPS> Actually no it didn't
[09:09] <TPS> It keeps going nuts
[09:09] <acfrazier> Is there a palimpsest bug that would cause it to report ridiculous amounts of bad sectors?
[09:09] <keetah> Cheph: have you tried the live disc at all?
[09:09] <ajay-tech> just move the screens around in display
[09:09] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk are you running Ubuntu on a laptop? If you do - tell me what's your Wifi card chip
[09:09] <Jordan_U> TPS: Anything usefull in System > Preferences > Display?
[09:09] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk or at least the laptop model
[09:09] <SmokeyD1> hey people. I enabled remote desktop viewing on my ubuntu karmic machine. When I connect to this machine from another machine, I only see the background image of my box.
[09:09] <TPS> Jordan_U: Do you know how to make a monitor default ?
[09:09] <TPS> I'm in the display prefs
[09:10] <TPS> And my resolutions are correct
[09:10] <gusty_> rww: ok
[09:10] <TPS> But it won't put them on the right monitor
[09:10] <SmokeyD1> when I look at the screen of the remote machine, the mouse is moving and everything works, except that I don't see any windows on the vnc machine.
[09:10] <TPS> The only way I can get it to the left monitor is by disabling the right one
[09:10] <ajay-tech> move them by dragging them
[09:10] <tiaray> hello
[09:10] <ajay-tech> the screens that is
[09:10] <TPS> ajay-tech: Doesn't work
[09:11] <TPS> Oh, I did that already
[09:11] <Cheph> Keetah: yes but it did not have a rescue option, it had a check disk but that did not show any errors
[09:11] <tiaray> can anyone tell me what is (initramfs)_ prompt message at the boot time ?
[09:11] <soreau> SmokeyD1: Have you tried disabling visual effects for the box you are vncing into?
[09:11] <TPS> ajay-tech: The screens are in the correct position in display prefs
[09:11] <kekale> thanks Jordan_U again for the ebox tip.
[09:11] <SmokeyD1> soreau: no, is that it? I'll check now. Thanks
[09:12] <TPS> I don't know why it thinks the monitor on the right is default
[09:12] <TPS> Sigh
[09:12] <ajay-tech> maybe it may be the computers connections
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: means, system cant find kernel to boot
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: kinda
[09:12] <SmokeyD1> soreau: that was it indeed. Thanks
[09:12] <TPS> ajay-tech: What does that mean ?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> kekale: np
[09:12] <tiaray> thanks indus
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: you have that problem?
[09:12] <stix> Hi guys. Everytime I hibernate my Ubuntu, it starts up right away again. What could be wrong?
[09:12] <ajay-tech> have u tried swaping the cables around?
[09:12] <jRiddick> Hi :OD
[09:13] <jRiddick> :D*
[09:13] <tiaray> indus> yes > I have that problem with ubuntu 9.10 server with raid
[09:13] <acfrazier> Alright, well palimpsest is reporting that my laptop has around 200 thousand bad sectors and that my drive is failing. Is this a known bug or is my drive really failing?
[09:13] <ajay-tech> stix maybe a button being pressed or dirt on trackpad
[09:13] <Arc> i could really use some help debugging this
[09:13] <indus> tiaray: k
[09:13] <soreau> stix: It is a graphics driver issue
[09:14] <tiaray> indus> is there any way to get rid of it ?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> TPS: System > Preferences > Display
[09:14] <TPS> ajay-tech: No, I didn't try that
[09:14] <stix> soreau, is there some documentation on that?
[09:14] <TPS> Jordan_U: I'm there and it isn't helping
[09:14] <indus> tiaray: nope
[09:14] <indus> tiaray: some problem with the install
[09:14] <soreau> stix: Not really, but you can file a bug
[09:14] <TPS> ajay-tech: Will that make my Windows prefs backwards when I start up ?
[09:15] <indus> acfrazier: was bug , fixed later
[09:15] <tiaray> indus> no problem with install, but I got it after I launched update
[09:15] <indus> tiaray: you probably did a partial upgrade then
[09:15] <Jordan_U> TPS: What graphics card?
[09:15] <indus> tiaray: try command update initramfs
[09:15] <indus> !initramfs
[09:15] <TPS> Radeon 4890
[09:15] <stix> soreau, okay, but how do you know where the problem is then?
[09:15] <TPS> @Jordan_U
[09:16] <soreau> stix: Because I have the same problem
[09:16] <khelvan> Can anyone suggest a streaming multimedia server that has a GUI interface where I can set it up to stream movies and music on my network, to my Xbox 360, and so on?
[09:16] <Jordan_U> TPS: Are you using the radeon driver or fglrx?
[09:16] <stix> soreau, and then you just figured, that it is your graphics drivers?
[09:16] <tiaray> indus> you mean, in the (initramfs)_ prompt shell
[09:16] <indus> tiaray: hmm no nvm
[09:16] <TPS> Jordan_U: Radeon driver installation is happening right now
[09:16] <indus> tiaray: sorry
[09:17] <indus> tiaray: how did you install this
[09:17] <ajay-tech> http://www.osgui.com if you need any more of my help
[09:17] <ajay-tech> and others at osgui
[09:17] <Jordan_U> TPS: Ubunt comes with the radeon driver by default, are you sure you don't mean the proprietary driver ( fglrx )?
[09:17] <indus> ajay-tech: advertising not allowed here :)
[09:17] <jRiddick> Hi :D
[09:17] <TPS> Jordan_U: You're right
[09:17] <soreau> stix: No, I do latest development driver testing and it used to work but now it doesnt. It is because the portion of the kernel that does the graphics driver stuff is responsible for suspend/resume functionality
[09:17] <TPS> It is FGLRX
[09:18] <TPS> I just installed FGLRX
[09:18] <ajay-tech> sorry all about advertising
[09:18] <tiaray> I installed it with a ubuntu9.10 amd 64. The server is a dell with a built-in raid.
[09:18] <indus> ajay-tech: just kidding
[09:18] <ajay-tech> lol
[09:18] <Linux-IRC> Which editor do you use for java,c++ ?
[09:18] <soreau> stix: It should work again in the future when it gets fixed
[09:18] <tiaray> indus>http://www.osgui.com
[09:18] <tiaray> indus>I installed it with a ubuntu9.10 amd 64. The server is a dell with a built-in raid.
[09:19] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, a lot of people use eclipse.
[09:19] <indus> tiaray: so you ran apt-get update and upgrade later?
[09:19] <tiaray> indus> yes
[09:19] <indus> ajay-tech: is that yout site?
[09:19] <indus> your
[09:19] <Linux-IRC> What's the compiler for java ? What's the command to compile .java file from terminal ?
[09:20] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, javac
[09:20] <Jordan_U> Linux-IRC: javac
[09:20] <TimOSGUI> hi all
[09:20] <ajay-tech> hi tim
[09:20] <Linux-IRC> What's the command to install javac ?
[09:20] <soreau> stix: The best thing you can do is file a bug report describing your problem and giving your hardware information
[09:20] <indus> tiaray: was it a partial upgrade?
[09:20] <indus> tiaray: initramfs didnt update probably
[09:20] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, sudo apt-get install java6-sun-jdk I believe
[09:21] <stix> soreau, okay I will do that
[09:21] <indus> tiaray: use the alternate cd to rescue
[09:21] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Did the installer seem to see your raid array properly?
[09:21] <nidelius> how can I change the number of rows each scroll step is? right now it
[09:21] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: sudo apt-get install java6-sun-jre , will it work ?
[09:21] <tiaray> indus> Yes, it did
[09:21] <nidelius> is at four lines each scroll
[09:21] <PFA> hey, i'm having ridiculous problems w/ hibernate on critical battery power on karmic. first is that it hibernates even *after* i plug in the adapter, sometimes seemingly when it still has tons of power left (and always right after); second is that when it wakes up often it blackscreens and freezes until i press the power button and force shut down.
[09:21] <TimOSGUI> have you all been to www.OSGUI.com
[09:21] <ardchoille> !ot | TimOSGUI
[09:21] <TimOSGUI> its the best new Open Source support site
[09:22] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, err sorry... try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[09:22] <indus> ok too much advertising
[09:22] <ee06047> list
[09:22] <indus> #ubuntu - off topic
[09:22] <tiaray> jordan_U> yes It did
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Was that meant for me?
[09:22] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre , will it work too?
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Sorry about the double post
[09:22] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, only one way to find out :)
[09:22] <tiaray> jordan_U> yes
[09:23] <LadyCrossfader> hello
[09:23] <ajay-tech> hi ladycrossfader
[09:23] <tiaray> jordan_U> no problem
[09:23] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: So why do i need sun-java6-jre ?
[09:24] <Draconis> after that just try to do java -version
[09:24] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, you are the only one saying you need it :)
[09:24] <Linux-IRC> Give a suggestion for better window manager with desktop icon ,
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> Give a suggestion for better lightweight window manager with desktop icon ,
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> panel,menu
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> desktop icon
[09:25] <indus> Linux-IRC: try enlightenment
[09:26] <indus> !wm
[09:26] <indus> !windowmanager
[09:26] <carloseugenio> quit
[09:26] <stix> soreau, which version of the nvidia drivers are you using?
[09:26] <soreau> stix: I dont use nvidia drivers
[09:27] <les> Linux-IRC: walmea, sawfish, there's lots. google one.
[09:27] <ShawnRisk> indus: hey.  still working on the same problem.
[09:27] <stix> soreau, then my problem isn't caused by those drivers
[09:27] <soreau> stix: yes it is
[09:27] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm i dont have a wireless router but i can only help you in case you miss any steps
[09:27] <stix> soreau, but you have the problem and are not using the drivers?
[09:28] <indus> ShawnRisk: could you again tell me details of your setup
[09:28] <Linux-IRC> les: indus , I need also icons , http://roscidus.com/desktop/ , http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/PROGRAMY/PLD/pulpit.png
[09:28] <soreau> stix: The problem is in the nvidia kernel module
[09:28] <ShawnRisk> indus: Ubuntu 9.10, WEP, 2Wire Gateway
[09:28] <stix> soreau, so no matter what hardware you have, hibernation is controlled by an nvidia kernel module?
[09:28] <les> Linux-IRC: did you even bother to look at the suggestions given? all 3 support icons on the desktop.
[09:29] <indus> Linux-IRC: use that rox then
[09:29] <ub2> !pastebin
[09:29] <soreau> stix: No, it is controlled by the graphics driver kernel code
[09:29] <indus> Linux-IRC: including enlightenment i believe
[09:29] <indus> !enlightenment
[09:30] <indus> aah no it doesnt
[09:30] <Linux-IRC> Installing enlightenment, will install walmea,sawfish
[09:30] <indus> try avant window decorator
[09:30] <indus> on top of gnome :)
[09:30] <maco> indus: navigator
[09:30] <stix> soreau, do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[09:30] <soreau> stix: yes
[09:30] <indus> maco: navigator ? what is it?
[09:30] <ardchoille> !info awn
[09:30] <maco> indus: avant window navigator, not decorator
[09:31] <stix> soreau, okay, you're just not using the nvidia drivers - only some nvidia driver kernel code?
[09:31] <indus> maco: aha yes indeed avn
[09:31] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[09:31] <soreau> stix: No, I have this issue on my radeon box. My nvidia box I do not s/r
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> !awn | indus
[09:32] <indus> ShawnRisk: can i see a screenshot of that netwrk window
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> maco: easier ;)
[09:32] <indus> well well welcome
[09:32] <Mud> ey guys
[09:32] <indus> i hate awn but anyways
[09:32] <stix> soreau, okay, then I don't get it when you say it is a graphics driver issue
[09:32] <Mud> I am running ubuntu 8.04 and I created a user
[09:32] <Mud> but when I login as that user, I dont have any [tab]functions etc
[09:32] <littlegreen> Mud try typing all in one line
[09:32] <Mud> and ps dont show the basshell
[09:32] <Mud> how do I fix that?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> indus: simdock is much slicker, doesnt require compositing either :D
[09:33] <indus> ShawnRisk: hello?
[09:33] <indus> ShawnRisk: there?
[09:33] <soreau> stix: When you suspend, the kernel needs to store the state of the machine, all registers of the hardware etc. The most significant part of this is the graphics hardware state
[09:34] <ShawnRisk> indus: would but I can't connect on the linux laptop
[09:34] <indus> unless i find something as slick and well integrated like in a mac, i aint using decorators
[09:34] <indus> ShawnRisk: does it wokr ok in windows
[09:34] <indus> ShawnRisk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/38493 maybe this helps
[09:35] <soreau> stix: When it fails, it is most likely something failed so instead of storing a bad state, it aborts and bounces right back
[09:35] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes and mac
[09:35] <soreau> stix: But like I said, your best course of action is to file a bug describing your problem and hardware specs
[09:35] <stix> soreau, okay - I will have a look in /var/log/messages next time
[09:36] <stix> soreau, yes okay
[09:36] <indus> ShawnRisk: so you see networks in the network panel ? but cant connect to it is that correct?
[09:36] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes
[09:37] <indus> ShawnRisk: can i see a screenshot of tjhis?
[09:37] <indus> !paste | ShawnRisk
[09:37] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope, wish I could get you one.  I am trying to read the website now
[09:38] <Lxcc-Vincenzo> hi all, i want to see/modify/convert jpeg2000 files, how i can do it?
[09:38] <luckymurali> hi to all
[09:38] <luckymurali> how can i delete all the lines in a files when the line consists of non printable character???
[09:40] <ShawnRisk> it worked
[09:40] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: strings file > newfile ( do NOT do strings file > file as that will delete the file )
[09:40] <luckymurali> Jordan_U, hi
[09:41] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: Hi
[09:41] <luckymurali> ok i try this
[09:41] <luckymurali> thanks
[09:41] <rhorse> luckymurali: just rm file and then touch file
[09:41] <ShawnRisk> indus: was connected for a second, now it said failed, and still searching now.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: np
[09:41] <indus> ShawnRisk: good, keep try
[09:41] <luckymurali> rhorse, I am not getting u
[09:41] <indus> ShawnRisk: you mean you could surf for a sec
[09:41] <indus> luckymurali: touch is a commadn to create a new empty file
[09:42] <RussellAlan> Anyone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/331563/
[09:42] <Mud> anyone a idea how to get bashshell working under a normal account on ubuntu 8.04 server?
[09:42] <luckymurali> indus, ok
[09:42] <ShawnRisk> indus: didn't get the chance, it just said connected and now it is searching and the password box came up again
[09:42] <Mud> I miss very basic commands as [tab] etc
[09:42] <luckymurali> :)
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Mud: Bash is the default shell for new users
[09:43] <indus> ShawnRisk: which parameters are you using for connecting
[09:43] <Mud> Jordan_U: apperently not for that account
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Mud: How did you create the user?
[09:43] <grawity> Mud: chsh -s /bin/bash theusername
[09:43] <ShawnRisk> indus: WEP 40/128-bit key
[09:43] <Mud> adduser with -d and -m parameters
[09:44] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the other values? index etc
[09:44] <indus> Mud: always use the persons nick when speaking, so it highlights and makes it easier to respond to :)]
[09:44] <Mud> ok indus
[09:44] <ShawnRisk> indus: how to check?
[09:44] <Mud> grawity; gonna try it now
[09:45] <RussellAlan> what's the ubuntu server channel#?
[09:45] <indus> ShawnRisk: in that netwrok manger  window, under wireless security
[09:45] <indus> #ubuntu-server
[09:45] <Mud> grawity: that worked :o thanx!
[09:45] <indus> grawity: chsh is for change shell?
[09:46] <grawity> indus: Yeah
[09:46] <Mud> grawity: what did cause the problem?
[09:46] <RussellAlan> odd, i typed the same thing a second ago and it wasnt there,
[09:46] <RussellAlan> -D
[09:46] <ShawnRisk> indus: 1
[09:46] <CHESLYN> can anyone help me with my 'apt-get'.i can install any package , i even tried to upgrade.i think it has a problem with the ''archive'' any help guys
[09:46] <indus> ShawnRisk: maybe try with 2 ? also is it a shared key or open system
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: can you give a pastebin of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install gedit      thanks. Use http://pastebin.com
[09:47] <Mud> grawity: I have a 'administrator' account (and can sudo) and that one dont had that problems..very strange :)
[09:47] <ShawnRisk> indus: shows open system
[09:47] <indus> ShawnRisk: under ipv4 do you see any ip addresses
[09:47] <flaviotruzzi> I am getting a memory leak when using matplotlib savefig in ubuntu 9.10
[09:47] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope
[09:48] <indus> ShawnRisk: so tht is a problem, you should see some ips its unable to grab any
[09:48] <indus> ShawnRisk: try value 2
[09:48] <ShawnRisk> ok
[09:49] <wubuntu> Hey, my volume and network stuff disappeared from my panel
[09:49] <indus> ShawnRisk: then see if you can apply that settings, if yes then check for ip adress again
[09:49] <indus> wubuntu: right click on panel and add to panel , add the volume panel ,
[09:50] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: let me 1ste try sudo apt-get --reinstall gedit.i'll get back to you, thanks alot
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: right click panel -> add item   add it back
[09:50] <indus> wubuntu: network panel cant be added that way , will reappear on login
[09:50] <miklos> anybody with acer emachines?
[09:50] <wubuntu> indus, ActionParsnip1
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: sure, if you get any interesting output use the link I gave to provide the output here
[09:50] <wubuntu> They aren't in the add item
[09:50] <wubuntu> And network didn't come back after relog
[09:51] <indus> wubuntu: volume control applet is always there
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: you have to run nm-applet to get that back
[09:51] <wubuntu> ActionParsnip1: How do I run that ?
[09:51] <indus> wubuntu: for network just open terminal and type nm-applet
[09:51] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: thanks again i'll try it
[09:51] <AmbrNewlearner> Hello, I'm trying to configure my usb interface for ADSL 2+ router...But ubuntu doesnot shows my usb interface in ifconfig output
[09:51] <AmbrNewlearner> Here: http://pastebin.com/m53a2c11f
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: sounds like you have removed the system tray or notification area
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: press alt+f2   type: nm-applet   press enter
[09:52] <wubuntu> Didn't work
[09:52] <AmbrNewlearner> This is my tailing part of dmesg
[09:52] <wubuntu> ** (nm-applet:6054): WARNING **: <WARN>  request_name(): Could not acquire the session service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[09:52] <wubuntu> ** (nm-applet:6054): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[09:52] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, how can I make my wireless lan card connect on startup of the machine, instead of on login? It is using wpa2 encryption
[09:52] <indus> wubuntu: yeah go to system monitor and kill nm-applet first
[09:52] <indus> wubuntu: then run the command again
[09:53] <ShawnRisk> indus: I tried that and it came back with athentication box again.  There is nothing showing up for IP Address and it is Auto DCHP.  I also edited it manually to change the value to 2
[09:53] <indus> wubuntu: then go to system>preferences>sessions or startup applications and add nm-applet to it and save
[09:53] <theadmin> Something crazy just happened. When I booted, on white Karmic logo, it said something like "Checking filesystem", what is that all about?
[09:53] <SmokeyD> right now I have to login first, before the macine comes online, but I want it to go online already on startup so I can ssh into it and stuff
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: you won't get that if you use the alt+f2 menu like I said, you used a terminal which will make the applet close when you close the terminal
[09:53] <SmokeyD> I am running ubuntu karmic
[09:53] <indus> ShawnRisk: it should be auto ip? you have static ?
[09:53] <soreau> SmokeyD: Write a script to connect and put it in /etc/rc.local
[09:53] <AmbrNewlearner> Here is my ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/m682176cd
[09:53] <indus> ShawnRisk: iam not a network expert, i have static ip at work so it shows , maybe for you its dhcp
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: the system has been mounted 30 times so a scheduled file system check is running to make sure the data is ok
[09:54] <AmbrNewlearner> Any ideas?
[09:54] <virl> hi, does anybody in here uses mono_mod on his apache webserver? and does it work there with mass virtual hosts?
[09:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Ain't running fsck on a mounted system dangerous?
[09:54] <wubuntu> indus: Neither of those are there
[09:54] <ShawnRisk> indus: not that I know of.  I have auto ip,
[09:54] <SmokeyD> soreau: hmm, what script should I write? Does network manager work when I am not logged in? Or should I disable network manager completely if I want this?
[09:54] <wubuntu> Setup and startup
[09:54] <wubuntu> Neither are there
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: its not mounted, its unmounted beforethe check. but yes checking a monted partition is not good
[09:54] <indus> ShawnRisk: ok hmm did you restart the router ? it works a lot of times :)
[09:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Ah. Okay. Thanks
[09:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: and leave ipv4 to auto dhcp its correct
[09:55] <wubuntu> Nevermind, I see it
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: could use /etc/network/interfaces file instead of network manager etc, this will configure the device before logon
[09:55] <ShawnRisk> indus:  but would restarting work if I am working on it now on another laptop?
[09:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: aah no i guess
[09:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: wait
[09:56] <soreau> SmokeyD: I disable all network manager facilities and use wpa-supplicant for the job
[09:56] <indus> ActionParsnip1: so what does one do if wireless detects networks but cant connect
[09:56] <AmbrNewlearner> Anyone knows how to config my usb router interface?
[09:56] <SmokeyD> soreau: ok, thanks
[09:56] <soreau> SmokeyD: ActionParsnip1s suggestion might be better though I have not tested that route
[09:56] <miklos> KDE 4 plays the music and goes blackscreen
[09:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: so the password window keeps apprearing?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> indus: disable security and try again
[09:57] <indus> ShawnRisk: so set security none and see
[09:57] <PFA> hey, i'm having ridiculous problems w/ hibernate on critical battery power on karmic. first is that it hibernates even *after* i plug in the adapter, sometimes seemingly when it still has tons of power left (and always right after); second is that when it wakes up often it blackscreens and freezes until i press the power button and force shut down.
[09:57] <ShawnRisk> indus: okay
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> PFA: hibernate is a real PITA to get working
[09:57] <frogzoo> woohoo - got my 3G modem to cooperate with network manager - that was a long haul
[09:57] <theadmin> PFA: Second one is known of, I have the same problem. Did you try Alt+SysRq+K when it is blackscreened?
[09:58] <PFA> ActionParsnip1, good to know -- probably shouldn't be enabled by default then. theadmin -- no, i didn't know that command existed, but i will try it next time; thank you
[09:58] <PFA> theadmin, what does it do?
[09:58] <SmokeyD> soreau: this sounds interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[09:59] <theadmin> PFA: Kills all apps in current VT (restarts Xserver, if you wish)... It's not very good, but better then hard reset
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> PFA: ifits a laptop, you may find guides based on make / model
[09:59] <AmbrNewlearner> Any body?
[09:59] <ShawnRisk> indus: it is creating a new connection everytime I try to connect to the same network.  I changed the security to none
[09:59] <PFA> ah...
[09:59] <indus> ShawnRisk: ya let it create, just see if it connects
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: usbrouter interface?
[10:00] <ShawnRisk> indus: it shows the password box
[10:00] <indus> ShawnRisk: for no security? what
[10:00] <PFA> well, thanks. i didn't see much solution on google, just others with the same problem... was hoping someone would know off the top of their heads
[10:00] <PFA> i've set it to go suspend on low battery for now, although that seem sto have similar issues.
[10:00] <soreau> SmokeyD: Looks good, try it out
[10:00] <ShawnRisk> indus: I know.
[10:00] <PFA> wish i could just disable it entirely.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: so, do you have a router which you connect to via USB?
[10:00] <PFA> take care, all
[10:00] <cbx33> anyone else find the netbook remix launcher REALLY slow on some older systems?
[10:00] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:01] <maco> cbx33: its composited isnt it? makes sense
[10:01] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm if its asking for password then i dont know whats happening, wait i try at my place
[10:01] <theadmin> cbx33: Well, yeah, it can be slow.... you probably should try Xubuntu.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: is it detected as a netwok device in: sudo lshw -C network
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: or lxde
[10:01] <ShawnRisk> indus: trying
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: some have reported slowness, it does have a higher minimum spec than xubuntu/lxde etc
[10:02] <cbx33> well
[10:02] <cbx33> gnome woks fine on the machine
[10:02] <cbx33> firefox too
[10:02] <cbx33> everything except the launcher
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: then use it if you are happy with the performance
[10:02] <indus> hello check
[10:02] <cbx33> i am
[10:03] <cbx33> it's just concerning that such a simple program is giving such a negative impression of ubuntu
[10:03] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: it gives me ''Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?'' if i tried to sudo apt-get
[10:03] <indus> ShawnRisk: sure you got the wep key right?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: ok run: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:04] <ShawnRisk> indus: as far as I know
[10:04] <indus> ShawnRisk: RECONfigure router and get a fresh wep key
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> indus: does it connect without security?
[10:04] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope
[10:04] <indus> ActionParsnip1: ShawnRisk says it opens a new connection window
[10:05] <indus> ShawnRisk: which version of ubuntu are you ?
[10:05] <ShawnRisk> 9.10
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: its like any DE/WM type thing, ome love it, some hate it
[10:05] <indus> ShawnRisk: i think ActionParsnip1 can cguide a little better
[10:05] <danielle> where are the downloaded debs in ubuntu?
[10:06] <maco> cbx33: you can just use gnome without the unr launcher...
[10:06] <indus> danielle: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: disable all security on the router and attempt connection. If it connects then your WEP key is wrong or you are selecting the wrong type of WEP
[10:06] <danielle> no in the operating system :D
[10:06] <soreau> indus: He means on the system
[10:06] <indus> soreau: oh !
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: some love compiz, i think its garbage
[10:06] <cbx33> ActionParsnip1: I disagree - it's been written for lower end machines, and someone would download the netbook remix....try it and go back ot windows
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: that kind of jazz
[10:06] <indus> danielle: /var/cache/apt/archives i believe
[10:06] <ShawnRisk> indus: I think the problem was that I wasn't connected to the network the whole time, I disconnected and when I reconnected it opened a new connection.
[10:06] <danielle> thankyou
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: i use windows daily for work
[10:07] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: it gives 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 166 not upgraded.what now?
[10:07] <maco> cbx33: netbooks arent really lower end... not in the way the 8 year old machine im using that handles compiz just fine is
[10:07] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Why do you hate compiz so much?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: ok run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      use: http://pastebin.com to give the output
[10:07] <cbx33> maco: agreed
[10:07] <indus> ShawnRisk: you should go back and start over , and like ActionParsnip1 said, disable security on router
[10:07] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: nope because it is working on other computers mac and windows.
[10:07] <nightstrike> Hello everyone. Nothing I do is disabling the visual beep in my terminal (i'm using terminator). What do I do?
[10:07] <cbx33> I run on a 6 year old notebook
[10:07] <cbx33> and it's blazingly fast
[10:08] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1:  No it is not detected
[10:08] <cbx33> but because the launcher is an initial impression thing
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: makes stuff take too long for my liking, plus it achieves nothing but some pretty colours which I am totally disinterested in
[10:08] <ShawnRisk> indus: not going to work
[10:08] <maco> cbx33: did they have netbooks 6 years ago?
[10:08] <cbx33> and it's a "new" product - i think it's a little poor that it's so slow
[10:08] <indus> ShawnRisk: no? why
[10:08] <cbx33> maco i said notebook :p
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: ok run: lsusb     one line will identify the device and you can search for guides using the 8 didgit hex ID
[10:08] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Sounds like you should hate your graphics drivers
[10:08] <__machine> libapache2-mod-wsgi seems to be missing from my hardy install? aptitude search wsgi yields only python2.5-wsgiref ... ?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: no as I play 3D games
[10:08] <maco> cbx33: right, so unr is aimed at netbooks....none of which are more than 2 yr old
[10:09] <cbx33> ok...nevermind....i give up
[10:09] <ShawnRisk> indus: I have two other computers connected and it shouldn't be anything but the linux machine
[10:09] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: compiz reveals many bugs in graphics drivers that may not be demonstrated by other 3D apps
[10:09] <indus> ShawnRisk: yeah i believe you
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: if i minimise something I want it to be gone, instantly, not do some pointless animation. stuff like that, when i switch desktops its instantaneous, I dont want to see the edge of a cube go past my screen. it achieves zero except to slow the operation down
[10:09] <HolySnapBatman> i have a partition that got deleted (ntfs) when trying to resize it due to power loss. now the space where the partition was is unallocated space. instead of going through the legthy process of rescuing and copying the files (over 100GB) is there a way i can just restore the partition? from what i can tell only the partition table was deleted and not the data
[10:09] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: must i copy and paste it for you?
[10:10] <indus> ShawnRisk:maybe its oyur laptop? the wireless on it?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: penumbra and frets on fire work perfectly, its all i need
[10:10] <Lxcc-Vincenzo> anyone know how to see/modify/convert jpeg2000 files?
[10:10] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: You probably use proprietary graphics drivers. Am I right?
[10:10] <indus> windows and mac are diff machines isnt it ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: nvidia all the way
[10:10] <cbx33> It is this bug:
[10:10] <cbx33> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/349314/
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: yes, use pastebin. copy the text to the bin, hit paste, when the page changes copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[10:10] <cbx33> It is painfully slow. But, if you install the kernel mentioned in there, it will be nice and fast again. The problem is bad Intel drivers not supporting something that is needed in the launcher.
[10:10] <indus> windows and mac are diff machines isnt it ? ShawnRisk ? or you dual boot
[10:10] <FloodBot5> cbx33: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <ShawnRisk> indus: I used windows on there before and it worked but was disconnecting often.  no dual boot
[10:10] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Yea, you are just confused. It is ok, a lot of people are confused and think nvidia is the only graphics card
[10:11] <bsusa> hello all
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: no i dont at all, i just use it due to awesome support in linux
[10:11] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm was disconnecting often, maybe a hardware issue?
[10:11] <ShawnRisk> indus: oh
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: i only use what works amazingly. i only but from the hcl. I have had an awesome experience with nvidia so its all i buy
[10:11] <bsusa> could someone please assist me on how to caibrate a touchscreen in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:11] <indus> ShawnRisk: :)
[10:11] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: yeah amd is a real pain
[10:12] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: err ati
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: don't patronise me like that
[10:12] <ShawnRisk> indus: what to do?
[10:12] <indus> ShawnRisk: do one thing, try a windows dual boot on this laptop and see if it connects. if no then its a laptop issue with wireless switch
[10:12] <aaron11> Do you guys know if Alien Arena game will work on my computer? I tried Freedoom but it crashes after a period of time for some reason. Even Kiki The Nano bot, when I reach the level where you have to pass dumb nanobots it crashes.
[10:12] <indus> ShawnRisk: it has a slider for wifi ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: are you one of these "boohoo the drivers arent open" people?
[10:13] <indus> off topic shh
[10:13] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1:  I know 8 digit hex id ....now what?
[10:13] <cWex_iMutZz> aq bth tman
[10:13] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: to be totally honest i dont know what pastebin or where it is and how to get it
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: run: lsusb   in a terminal, one of the lines will identify the device
[10:13] <seravitae> Anyone know what package contains 'strace'? or how i mgiht find out?
[10:13] <indus> CHESLYN: paste.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: http://pastebi.com
[10:13] <ShawnRisk> indus: it connects in windows but was disconnecting on and off, but windows is gone
[10:14] <indus> !paste | CHESLYN
[10:14] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: No, Im mostly a taunter that nvidia sucks kinda guy ;)
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: yea that means the wireless is faulty in it
[10:14] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1: , yes, I see that line....no what should I do?
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: why should it disconnect otherwise
[10:14] <dustybunny1> Hello
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: they have worked flawlessly even when i had my TNT2 Ultra 32mb under mandrake. Works for me, if you wanna use other stuff thats cool too
[10:14] <GamerKnight> anyone know much about GPT/MBR in here???
[10:14] <frogzoo> seravitae: would you believe... strace?
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: the only way to findout is if other laptops catch it fine
[10:14] <seravitae> lol frogzoo yeah i just checked *facepalm*
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: copy the 8 didgit hex id and search it in a web searchengine
[10:15] <seravitae> i just expected it to be some small tool in some larger package.
[10:15] <HolySnapBatman> is there anyway to just restore a deleted ntfs partition instead of using ddrescue and having to copy all the files? i have over 150GB of files and would rather not have to copy them if i can just restore the partition
[10:15] <frogzoo> seravitae: apt-cache search blah - in future
[10:15] <ShawnRisk> indus: oh
[10:15] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: I have an nvidia, intel and ati box. ati wins.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: visit the page, paste the text, write your name, click paste. The page will change. Copy the contents of the address bar and paste them here
[10:15] <indus> ShawnRisk: yeah the other laptops if you can load ubuntu and check
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: for you yes, for me nvidia is great. Thats why both companys exist
[10:16] <indus> ShawnRisk: it will point to a hardware issue (minor issue probably) with this laptop
[10:16] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: i am un sure these days
[10:16] <indus> soreau: why ati wins?
[10:16] <indus> soreau: AMD rather
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: its all individual taste like anything, even OSes, cars, drinks, food, music
[10:17] <soreau> indus: For a lot of reasons but mostly because nvidia loses by default
[10:17] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: i think amd will come out with some nice stuff next year. with the whole ati merge thing. there boards, there processors, there graphics GPUs. lets face it GPUs have been advancing alot faster than CPU in the past 10 years
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: GamerKnight: loads of stuff, just use what you like and let the other people use what they like, it doesnt affect you in any way what other folks choose to use or not use so let them get on with it
[10:17] <ShawnRisk> indus: if you feel that is the way
[10:18] <schwezzy> dual core gpu's
[10:18] <schwezzy> that would be so cool
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: Just look at how well Nvidia mother boards work with nvidta grphics cards
[10:18] <indus> soreau: loses by default? which default
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: i dont pay attention to it. I know both exist and know what will run the stuff i need for cheapest, so i go for that
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: yer cheep is good
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: the nvidia ion is nice though
[10:18] <zebastian> OK JUST GOT UBUNTU WHAT APP CAN I USE TO RECORD MP3S
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: yer it is
[10:18] <zebastian> caps*
[10:18] <indus> GamerKnight: i have an amd 690 chipset which works great with my nvidia 7600 gt
[10:19] <zebastian> sorry about that
[10:19] <soreau> ! caps | zebastian
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: sound recorder
[10:19] <GamerKnight> indus: i heard that 7600 had major hardware problems or was that the 8000 series
[10:19] <soreau> GamerKnight: Both. Nvidia sucks.
[10:19] <indus> GamerKnight: major? those 2 are blockbuster cards
[10:19] <GamerKnight> indus: i had to get my replaced cus my 8000 screwed up. but i got  a new 9000 out of it
[10:19] <zebastian> ActionParsnip1: sudo aptitude install sound recorder?
[10:20] <ubuntu_> hiho
[10:20] <indus> GamerKnight: thats yur specific issue , many diff manufacturers
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: its part of a standard install, look under sound and video
[10:20] <ShawnRisk> indus: thanks for the help
[10:20] <indus> ShawnRisk: welcome
[10:20] <GamerKnight> soreau: they both have pro and cons, nvidia works better with the unread engine and can do better lighting effects
[10:20] <indus> anyways way off topic
[10:20] <GamerKnight> soreau: unreal engine
[10:20] <ubuntu_> any1 around knowing how to solve this bug here except using the alternate-cd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:20] <ubuntu_> ?
[10:20] <GamerKnight> ubuntu_: bug???
[10:21] <ubuntu_> yepp
[10:21] <grub2-from-hell> someone have hints how to get help installing grub2 on GPT partitions? at least i have some cause to attribute my troubles to non-DOS style partitioning scheme
[10:21] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: k
[10:21] <GamerKnight> soreau: also nvidia in the past have run better on linux, not on all systems but on the majority. its changing these days though
[10:21] <GamerKnight> soreau: more driver support and faster releases from what i have seen
[10:22] <grub2-from-hell> went to the grub2 home site/help area and elsewhere, docs at home are atrocious
[10:22] <GamerKnight> indus: what system u running?
[10:22] <soreau> GamerKnight: Yea, the graphics driver seen is changing drastically
[10:22] <soreau> scene
[10:22] <theadmin> !info tzdata
[10:22] <zebastian> ActionParsnip1: lots of hiss
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: huh?
[10:23] <grub2-from-hell> !info grub2
[10:23] <zebastian> what is that due to
[10:23] <zebastian> the great amount of hiss
[10:23] <zebastian> usually
[10:23] <GamerKnight> soreau: to be honest i think amd/ati will win. just becuase of they can do combo arcatecture and everything will sync nicly
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: turn the recording volume down
 ubuntu_: bug???
[10:23] <ubuntu_> will there be anything else?
[10:24] <soreau> GamerKnight: In my book, they already have. It is only a matter of time now.
[10:24] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: absolutely, if only they would have better legacy support
[10:24] <soreau> GamerKnight: Plus its the best driver support you will find on irc out of the three valid graphics vendors
[10:26] <GamerKnight> soreau: really never really needed any driver support. but i am sure i will now i just said that
[10:26] <ssta> anyone know if the mysql-server-5.1 packages in karmic have ndb build in?
[10:26] <Draconis> so heard someone chatting up enlightenment and decided to give it a whirl.. its pretty good. Anyone have any other recommendations? Also I am tryng to figure out how to assign a hot key to run a terminal window. I can't seem to find it in the key bindings like GNOME has
[10:26] <pendlaren> Hi folks, how do I know which graphics driver is used when there are no Driver in xorg.conf?
[10:26] <maco> pendlaren: whatever X autodetects is correct
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: lxde is my personal recommendation
[10:26] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: yer legacy stuff never seems to get supported in this capatistic world :(, they just want your new money
[10:26] <soreau> pendlaren: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: for the keybinding, not sure
[10:27] <Draconis> thanks I'll give it a look
[10:27] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: upgrade it much better. i liked the one i had thank you. thays  why i brought it
[10:27] <Draconis> thank you ActionParsnip1
[10:27] <arand> grub2-from-hell: Might this be relevant?: http://www.mail-archive.com/grub-devel@gnu.org/msg12109.html and/or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7557255
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: could ask in #elightenment
[10:28] <ubuntu_> so no solution here?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> except for using the alternate cd?
[10:28] <ssta> s/n too high
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: have you got the link?
[10:29] <ubuntu__> HI
[10:29] <ubuntu__> hey how to reload grub?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> !grub
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2
[10:29] <indus> GamerKnight: old , x2 4400 7600 gt
[10:29] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: it's not even like the hardware I have is that old.. it's just that after gusty I have no more 3d acceleration :(
[10:30] <indus> GamerKnight: will buy athlon2 x3 435 and 4770 probably
[10:30] <soreau> schwezzy: Which card do you have?
[10:30] <SoMerda> t
[10:30] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: what card do u have
[10:30] <grub2-from-hell> arand: those could relate, haven't read them too deeply so far
[10:30] <danielle> is there a nother program like aptoncd thet you can use to burn .debs on dvd
[10:30] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <GamerKnight> indus: join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> danielle: you can just burn the debs from /var/cache/apt/archive
[10:32] <danielle> i have 30gb of them and apt on cd crashes and when you just burn debs on disk synaptic can nor read disk says it is invalid
[10:32] <ubuntu_> gee
[10:32] <ubuntu_> i found a solution
[10:33] <ubuntu_> any1 around having an account on this website here? => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:33] <q0_0p> anyone know why i get this error?
[10:33] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:33] <ubuntu_> if so, please tell me so that you can post the solution here
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> danielle: if you copy the debs to the destination computer in the same location you can use them to install with
[10:34] <bsusa> could someone please assist me on how to caibrate a touchscreen in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:34] <pendlaren> soreau: thanks, seems like it's loading several drivers/modules there...
[10:35] <pendlaren> maco: Thanks, I'm trying to get compiz working in 9.10, as it did in 9.04
[10:35] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: soreau: ati Xpress 1150 on my laptop and a Radeon 9800 on desktop
[10:35] <soreau> pendlaren: The one that is listed many times over in all CAPS is the one it is using
[10:35] <pendlaren> soreau: ok, RADEON, then
[10:35] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: any other ideas?
[10:35] <soreau> schwezzy: And neither are working for 3D? Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the problem session
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: about what?
[10:36] <soreau> pendlaren: Yup, it is using the open radeon driver
[10:36] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: my problem
[10:36] <pendlaren> soreau: Problem is that compiz will not work in 9.10, but it did very well in 9.04 (ATI Radeon X1400)
[10:36] <soreau> ! work | pendlaren
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: well i gathered you had a problem, can you please remind me was what I was after
[10:37] <GamerKnight> OWWW! is says do not push!!
[10:37] <pendlaren> soreau: sorry... it seems to lock X when I move windows, go to the corner to see all open windows etc
[10:37] <soreau> pendlaren: Which card and ubuntu version is this on?
[10:38] <pendlaren> soreau: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[10:38] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: I am trying to connect to wireless internet and this isn't working.  All it does is send me back to the Wireless Network Authentication box after I connect.
[10:38] <soreau> pendlaren: Can you try booting with radeon.modeset=1 as a kernel parameter?
[10:38] <pendlaren> soreau: Just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[10:39] <theadmin> What on earth? It tries to open FTP bookmarks with firefox.
[10:39] <soreau> pendlaren: This should enable KMS which will in turn enable DRI2
[10:39] <indus> soreau: iam planning on amd card , is driver good enough now
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: does it happen as another user?
[10:39] <pendlaren> soreau: Sure, will try at once
[10:39] <schwezzy> soreau: the whole thing?
[10:39] <soreau> indus: Yes, definitely. By Lucid release, we should have full GL2.1 support I expect
[10:39] <soreau> schwezzy: Yes
[10:39] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: only one this linux box but when I tried in windows it was disconnecting often
[10:39] <soreau> ! paste | schwezzy
[10:40] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:40] <schwezzy> !pastebinit
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: then make another, you can have multiple users on the Ubuntu system
[10:40] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: only one
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: make a new user
[10:41] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:41] <myfundi> I ahve a pcline pcl300n how do I get it to work in 8.1
[10:42] <myfundi> sorry webcam pcline pcl300n
[10:42] <DjAngo23> Is there a software like Dragon Naturally speaking for Linux ? It is, a voice command program
[10:42] <soreau> ! webcam | myfundi
[10:42] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: are you sure that will help?
[10:42] <myfundi> thanks mate
[10:42] <soreau> DjAngo23: That is a good question. If you find one, let me know ;)
[10:43] <DjAngo23> soreau: I will ;)
[10:43] <DjAngo23> I ssaw voice command (native ubuntu function, but no documentation a all..
[10:43] <Krambiorix> can somebody help me:  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if the new user is ok then it is a bad setting in your current user some place. If the dialogue goes away as normal then the system is fine and your current user settings are bad somewhere
[10:43] <soreau> Krambiorix: Are you running that in an X session?
[10:44] <soreau> Krambiorix: Or from ssh?
[10:44] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: oh
[10:44] <schwezzy> soreau: http://pastebin.com/f68518cb9
[10:44] <Krambiorix> soreau , in a terminal local
[10:44] <ubuntu_> anyone around having an account on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:44] <theadmin> ubuntu_: Me, for instance, why?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if the same happens with the new user with clean vanilla settings then you have found a bug as the setting is not isolated to your one user
[10:45] <soreau> schwezzy: That is not right, incomplete log
[10:45] <ubuntu_>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: its called isolating the issue to see where things go wrong and go right so you can narrow down the possibilities until you know what is wrong
[10:45] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: can't we try to work with one user?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> i want someone to post a reply with a "bugfix" there
[10:45] <soreau> schwezzy: If you have curl installed, you can use this command to paste it:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:45] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:46] <schwezzy> soreau: does apt-get curl work?
[10:46] <virl> hi, does anybody in here uses mono_mod on his apache webserver? and does it work there with mass virtual hosts?
[10:46] <soreau> schwezzy: sudo apt-get install curl
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if your profile is bad, no matter how many times you try you will always fail, you need to see if its settings or system which are bad
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: new users are free you know and they can be deleted once used
[10:47] <Samuli^> is there any racing (simulation preferably) games for linux? Wrong place to ask?
[10:47] <frogzoo1> Samuli^: tux racer?
[10:47] <schwezzy> soreau: http://sprunge.us/YIJJ
[10:47] <Samuli^> frogzoo1, lol
[10:47] <m4rtin> Samuli^: TORCS (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/)
[10:48] <pendlaren> soreau: booted with radeon.modeset=1 as kernel param, and things seemed normal, except some noise that was "scrolled down" by the desktop background. When I clicked the "Visual effects" tab of System - Prefs - Appearance, colors faded and computer locked completely. Not able to switch to console or anything.
[10:48] <Krambiorix> soreau , can you help me?
[10:48] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: I didn't create the user it is the first one made by installation
[10:48] <utrrrongeeb> Samuli^: Vdrift
[10:48] <Samuli^> thanks m4rtin, I'll look it up
[10:48] <utrrrongeeb> Samuli^: But I find SuperTuxKart to be the most fun.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: yes I know, but you can add more
[10:49] <ShawnRisk> ok
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: under administration you can add users there
[10:49] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:49] <porkpie> guy's how do I tell what version of ubuntu I am running
[10:49] <soreau> schwezzy: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> porkpie: lsb_release -a
[10:49] <q0_0p> porkpie, uname -a
[10:49] <soreau> pendlaren: Sorry, that was my only idea
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> q0_0p: ubuntu, not linux ;)
[10:49] <m4rtin> q0_0p: that will only show the kernel
[10:49] <ubuntu_> <:
[10:49] <q0_0p> distro?
[10:49] <ubuntu_> cat /etc/lsb_release
[10:49] <pendlaren> porkpie: lsb_release -rc
[10:49] <EXp1r3d> Samuli^, http://www.palomino3d.org/
[10:50] <pendlaren> soreau: OK, thanks, anyway.
[10:50] <m4rtin> soreau: alternatively, have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list and see what is listed (jaunty/karmic etc.)
[10:50] <schwezzy> soreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5974) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 NO-TCL
[10:50] <Samuli^> cool, I didn't know there were so many O.o
[10:50] <ubuntu_> oh, i was wrong
[10:50] <porkpie> guy's I am running edgy  ... :(  what the upgrade steps
[10:50] <q0_0p> anyone here knows y i get this error?
[10:50] <ubuntu_> the file is acutally called lsb-release
[10:50] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:50] <ubuntu_> so
[10:50] <ubuntu_> cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:51] <soreau> schwezzy: What happens when you try setting something other than None in Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects?
[10:51] <ubuntu_> porkpie, do a full reinstall
[10:51] <Krambiorix> can somebody help me:  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:51] <ubuntu_> save your settings first
[10:51] <porkpie> ubuntu_: I can't
[10:51] <porkpie> it's running a radius server
[10:51] <pendlaren> soreau: Any way to find out if I used another driver on 9.04? :-/
[10:51] <ubuntu_> which means?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> egdy is 6.10, isnt it?
[10:52] <porkpie> ubuntu_: I don't want to reconfigure it
[10:52] <porkpie> yeah 6.10
[10:52] <schwezzy> soreau: do i have to restart after changing that setting? it didn't seem to do anything
[10:52] <arand> ubuntu_: Is this relevant (-> try removing dmraid in the livecd)?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/459054
[10:52] <ubuntu_> porkpie, save your settings away and apply them afterwards
[10:52] <ubuntu_> arand, it is!
[10:53] <ubuntu_> and sudo apt-get remove dmraid solved the problem
[10:53] <soreau> pendlaren: There have been a lot of changes in the open drivers both in kernel and user components. You are sorta in limbo because fglrx no longer supports your card. What you can do though is update your drivers with the xorg-edgers repo iirc
[10:53] <pendlaren> porkpie: keep your radius server on other partition(s) than your system
[10:53] <ubuntu_> so i wanted someone to post it on ubuntuforums.org as it was the first post to appear on my google search of the problem
[10:53] <soreau> schwezzy: If you set it to Extra without error, that means your 3D is working ok and compiz is working
[10:54] <Krambiorix> nobody ???  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:54] <q0_0p> schwezzy, now apt-get install simple-ccsm
[10:54] <pendlaren> soreau: I see, I'll try xorg-edgers - already added them to my repository, but wanted to check which driver I was currently running first :) thanks for your time!!
[10:54] <soreau> Krambiorix: I asked you from where you are running this command. You said from local. I meant are you running it from X or ssh
[10:55] <arand> ubuntu_: ah, ok, I'll do that, no prob, just a pointer to the bug report and hint to remove the package.
[10:55] <Krambiorix> soreau : just from a terminal window
[10:55] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: You're launching it from Xorg (the desktop), from a Terminal window, or are you at a VT?
[10:55] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb : terminal window
[10:55] <schwezzy> soreau: oh i meant 3d for games, they never seem to work
[10:55] <schwezzy> q0_0p: thanks, what's this?
[10:55] <soreau> Krambiorix: Terminal is subjective. You can run it from a tty terminal, ssh terminal, X terminal etc
[10:56] <ubuntu_> arand, ye, i am here using the xubuntu 9.10 live-cd and a simple `sudo apt-get remove` dmraid solved the problem. alt+f2 => xterm ftw, but it should be removable via synaptic, too
[10:56] <soreau> schwezzy: What's wrong with what 3D game?
[10:56] <Krambiorix> soreau : X Terminal from my desktop
[10:56] <q0_0p> schwezzy, 3d desktop
[10:56] <soreau> Krambiorix: Then I don't know what's wrong. Try a new terminal? otherwise something is screwed up on your system
[10:56] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: what results does 'echo $DISPLAY' give?
[10:57] <schwezzy> soreau: i don't have anything specific offhand, i haven't messed with it in quite a long time, I'll try and install a 3d game from the repos and report back
[10:57] <soreau> utrrrongeeb: It will likely say 0.0
[10:57] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: Normally it should return ":0.0".
[10:57] <soreau> schwezzy: Should be working AFAICT
[10:57] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: localhost:0.0
[10:57] <q0_0p> mine shows :0
[10:57] <soreau> Krambiorix: Try DISPLAY=:0 gedit blah blah
[10:58] <FANDER> !ruby
[10:59] <Krambiorix> soreau : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[10:59] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: How about 'DISPLAY=:0.0'?
[11:00] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb ,soreau  : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[11:00] <schwezzy> soreau: would you think tf2 through wine would be doable?
[11:01] <schwezzy> this hardware runs it on windows
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb | schwezzy
[11:01] <soreau> schwezzy: I have no idea. Did you say you're 9.04 or 9.10?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> schwezzy: windows has all the stuff the game has been coded to use, Linux doesnt
[11:01] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: In the terminal, who are you logged in as? Are you using sudo?
[11:01] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: I know it runs through wine, talking about hardware
[11:02] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb :as root
[11:02] <schwezzy> soreau: 9.10
[11:02] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: Does it work from your account?
[11:03] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is there any software like FlashGet, rapidshareplus and IDM for Ubuntu?
[11:03] <soreau> schwezzy: Then it should work. If you want to try DRI2, you can add radeon.modeset=1 to your kernel parameters
[11:03] <ubuntu_> isolat3dsh33p, jdownloader
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> schwezzy: The abstraction in wine abstracts the hardware too so may be slower
[11:04] <isolat3dsh33p> k thx :D
[11:04] <schwezzy> soreau: awesome, thanks.. funny i never expected to fix this i just sort of accepted it as it was
[11:05] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: yes it works with my account
[11:05] <soreau> schwezzy: The open radeon drivers are getting better too so be expecting more out of your card in the future
[11:07] <ubuntu_> k, guys, thx for your help
[11:07] <ubuntu_> rebooting into 9.10
[11:07] <arand> ubuntu_: posted "fix" looks ok?
[11:07] <ubuntu_> hm
[11:08] <ubuntu_> url?
[11:08] <ubuntu_> <:
[11:08] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: From your account, what does $ echo $DISPLAY return?
[11:08] <arand> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8412736
[11:09] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: :0.0
[11:09] <ubuntu_> ye arand
[11:09] <ubuntu_> thx for your effort, rebooting into 9.10 now
[11:09] <ubuntu_> l8r
[11:09] <arand> ubuntu_: goodies bye
[11:09] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: So, setting DISPLAY to ":0.0" in the root session still doesn't work?
[11:10] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: still doesn't work
[11:11] <huwenfeng> hi, how can i create a tun interface in Ubuntu8.04???
[11:11] <ritesh> hey guys , what can i use for remote dekstop to connect to?
[11:12] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: I'm out of ideas -- not running Linux this minute, so I can't try it -- if no-one else helps, there might be a command-line flag to gedit which lets you specify the display to use...
[11:12] <Krambiorix> hmmm
[11:12] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: gedit --help, maybe info gedit
[11:14] <soreau> utrrrongeeb: using --display is the same as setting DISPLAY env var. His system is not happy
[11:15] <e77e0> nice
[11:16] <decora> 1354 people and nobody talking
[11:16] <e77e0> XD
[11:16] <e77e0> so strange!
[11:16] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: thx for your help
[11:16] <decora> maybe they are all robots
[11:17] <utrrrongeeb> Is it safe to hibernate under Wubi?
[11:17] <e77e0> possible!
[11:17] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: You're welcome / sorry it isn't fixed.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> e77e0: No, it's just that 9.10 includes empathy by default, and that uses telepathy
[11:17] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: yeah it's weird that it works for my normal user
[11:18] <Jordan_U> e77e0: So we are all just communicating with talepathy and you have to use this legacy "text" based system with your legacy IRC client
[11:18] <e77e0> ubuntu has a lot of fan
[11:19] <soreau> Jordan_U: heh
[11:19] <theadmin> utrrrongeeb: it won't hibernate with Wubi at all.
[11:20] <joedulin> can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu to display 1024x768 on a netbook?
[11:21] <baalsgate> any one here farmilur with how i might stop sendmail from being an open relay when using port forwarding 25 on a NAT ?
[11:21] <theadmin> joedulin: It's not appearing in the list?
[11:22] <utrrrongeeb> theadmin: What if I disable Wubi swap and use an SD card as swap?
[11:22] <theadmin> utrrrongeeb: I'm not sure how it works, but it's stated on WUBI's page that it's impossible to hibernate with it.
[11:22] <joedulin> theadmin: netbook, only goes up to 1024x600
[11:23] <huwenfeng> how can i create a tun interface in ubuntu 8.04?
[11:23] <theadmin> joedulin: Try to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually. !!!BACKUP FIRST!!!
[11:24] <utrrrongeeb> theadmin: I thought I saw somewhere that it could cause host hard disk corruption, so I wondered about taking the host disk out of the picture....
[11:24] <myfundi> any idea on how to upgrade open office to 3.0 on ubuntu 8.1
[11:24] <joedulin> theadmin, could you give me something to look for in it? (if not, that's fine. i'm sure it's in a million forums)
[11:24] <myfundi> added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main to my sources.list
[11:24] <theadmin> joedulin: Lemme get a look of it first myself
[11:24] <myfundi> did an apt-get update
[11:24] <joedulin> theadmin, thanks, appreciate it
[11:25] <theadmin> myfundi: Good. Now apt-get install openoffice, I guess.
[11:25] <Guest68766> hey does anyone know were i can get the hash file to verify the amd64 9.10 cd????
[11:25]  * alankila wonders why his karmic insists on force-feeding US keyboard layout every botup despite I tdo my best to change it to Finnish keyboard.
[11:26] <mka> Guest68766: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[11:26] <Guest68766> thank you
[11:26] <theadmin> Guest68766: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[11:26] <theadmin> joedulin: uh. It's a mess. Read "man xorg.conf", maybe it'll make sense.
[11:27] <decora> guest try google sha 9.10
[11:27] <alankila> and I'd love it if ath9k driver didn't cut my network connection once every 5 minutes to about 5 hours, hard to say but it cut off connection 3 times today and it's hardly past noon yet.
[11:27] <joedulin> theadmin, yeah, i figured it would be which is why i asked. oh well, time to go play
[11:27] <decora> alankila: how are you setting your layout?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: log a bug
[11:28] <alankila> I use the gnome keyboard features. And I wrote it into /etc/default/console-setup as well
[11:28] <joedulin> alankila, i used to have that problem until i upgraded to 9.10. seems to be working fine now
[11:28] <alankila> but it tends to keep on coming up with USA despite I try apply it for myself and setting it system-wide
[11:28] <alankila> it's right at bootup, it's just GNOME that messes it up
[11:29] <decora> alankila: system preferences keyboards layouts? which layout are you using? are there any messages in your logfiles about layout problems?
[11:29] <alankila> decora: no messages that I can see, and I'm using Finnish. It works, but I have to set it manually at every bootup
[11:30] <decora> there are 4 finnish variants... which one?
[11:30] <alankila> who knows? The default one?
[11:30] <alankila> I've never touched the layout options
[11:30] <_du> Hi All. I've a problem described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/355883 for xterm+bash. Could somebody suggest any w/a for this?
[11:30] <decora> when you add the layout to your layouts, and you click 'finnish' language, it lists 4 variants... you had to click on one of them
[11:30] <decora> alankila: you just told me you set the layout using the gnome tools
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: try looking in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard maybe
[11:31] <_du> I'm no familiar with readlines scan codes, so i can't do this myself :(
[11:31] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: no such file, perhaps you are red hat user?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: not sure, jeeves suggested it
[11:31] <_du> In short, the problem is Ctrl-left/right_narrow produces 3D and 3C sequences only
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html
[11:32] <decora> alankila: if you go into keyboard preferences / layouts  and look there, it should list finnish... what does it list on yours?
[11:32] <alankila> decora: it lists finnish and USA when I boot up
[11:33] <alankila> the problem is that USA is selected by default, and I have to do something random like delete the USA option before I get Finnish layout
[11:33] <decora> ohh.. hmm
[11:34] <decora> lemme try something brb
[11:34] <alankila> I used to have the same problem on my laptop as well but some gnome update fixed it, I guess, the problem is that this keeps on going wrong on my main system. Though it doesn't happen at every bootup. Last time when I modified the settings in /etc/default/console-setup it worked right afterwards for like a month... but some apt-get updaete && dist-upgrade recently must have broken it again
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907470&postcount=4
[11:35] <alankila> because this is the 3rd time in sequence that I boot up and instead of ä and ö I se ; and :
[11:35] <rewati> hi i am a photographer and i use photoshop for editing i m using dual boot to use photoshop on windows its kinda anoying for me can any body tell me alternative of photoshop
[11:35] <rewati> ??
[11:35] <Rabbitbu1ny2> I'm trying to have a box auto-login to a getty (tty1) and start a process in that getty (screen) so that I can watch it in my peripheral vision on the physical monitor. I don't want it to start the process each time that user logs in as I ssh to the box constantly. Google keeps telling me to edit inittab. That doesn't exist. 6.10, no X. Hints?
[11:35] <Rabbitbu1ny2> rewati: Gimp
[11:36] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: yes, this is not the problem. The problem is x, not console. I might have been clearer about the issue. It works just fine in console, it's always just X & gnome that gets it wrong
[11:36] <enzo_> ciao a tutti
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: gimp, gimpshot, tuxpaint ;). Some versions of photoshop run ok via wine
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you'd have expected gnome to follow the terminal, weird
[11:36] <alankila> I suspect the gnome keyboard configuration utility is somehow buggy, maybe it's confused by some older gconf keys or something. I've half in mind to rm -rf the entire gnome settings database and start over with it, perhaps it helps, perhaps not
[11:37] <decora> alankila: hi.. have you tried using the 'keyboard indicator' program on the gnome panel?
[11:37] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 can tuxpaint edit raw format ??
[11:37] <phaidros> i am looking for a config option to spin down hdd, noflushd is more or less deprecated on ubuntu, laptop-mode-tools are configured to work only on battery. I know hdparm ist the tool, but is there an agent/service utilizing hdparm which to configure would make most sense?
[11:37] <alankila> no, I usually remove such things. I don't want to switch layouts
[11:37] <decora> alankila: ohh you want all finnish all the time?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: dude tuxpaint is for kids, the tools make cute noises when you use them
[11:38] <alankila> decora: indeed I do.
[11:38] <nickzxcv> so there is no xen support for amd64 in 8.04 LTS right?
[11:39] <alankila> but maybe the layout switcher can "remember" that I want Finnish layout even if the gnome keyboard settings somehow thinks I don't, so maybe just having that running fixes my problems. I guess I'll know next time I reboot.
[11:39] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 ok
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: have a look in gconf-editor   maybe its there
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb |rewati
[11:39] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 is there something except gimp for professional level
[11:39] <phaidros> how to silence hdd?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: gimpshop (gimp with a different gui), its not something i do
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> !graphics
[11:41] <frogzoo3> network-manager crashes when I select a wifi connection *cry*
[11:41] <ShawnRisk> still no luck
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicsApplications
[11:42] <alankila> the gconfd data seems simple... layouts = [fi], variants empty ... I sure wish I knew why it decides to forcibly add USA to my list at every boot, apparently. And defaults to that to boot.
[11:42] <indus> rewati: blender for 3d modelling
[11:42] <decora> alankila: only thing i know to do is bugs.ubuntu.com and file against uhm... xkeyboard-config package
[11:42] <ct529> hi! Does anyone know how to extract one single file from a tarred bzip2'd archive?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you can add a script for log on to set that variable once you log on
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: bit hacky but will work
[11:43] <jiga123123> hello people! my question: if Lucid is already available, why not download it? is the image on the official website bad or something?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> jiga123123: its very buggy
[11:43] <Flannel> jiga123123: Lucid is pre-alpha software
[11:43] <indus> jiga123123: its in alpha status
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> jiga123123: you can use it if you want to log lots of bugs
[11:43] <frogzoo3> jiga123123: alpha != available
[11:43] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: that could work, but I am unable to accept hacks.
[11:44] <indus> jiga123123: not even in alpha as Flannel said
[11:44] <decora> ct529 man tar look at --files-from
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you may have to if no fix is forthcoming
[11:44] <indus> jiga123123: only for testing on a spare system
[11:44] <indus> is it correct lucid is LTS?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> indus: yes
[11:44] <jiga123123> yes
[11:44] <indus> wooh
[11:44] <indus> good
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> !10.04
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> ooh +1 is back
[11:45] <indus> lol yeah
[11:45] <indus> nice
[11:45] <jiga123123> so they plan to make a beta and then repair all the bugs, and all before april?
[11:45] <indus> but i dont think ill take the jump so early
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: does it say US in gconf-editor on reboot?
[11:45] <alankila> Never mind. I was able to discover the problem.
[11:45] <decora> alankila: your X logs will say something about which keyboard layout it selects. if you could start X using strace -f you could track down which config files it is reading
[11:46] <alankila> GDM has a setting for keyboard layout, and that was USA. On the other hand, now that I try to log in again via GDM it just froze and never went into GNOME now that I changed that ... Let me say that frustration is mounting here.
[11:46] <ct529> decora: thanks .... the man page for tar is so long and complicated that I found the task hopeless .... :D
[11:46] <jiga123123> Flannel: from pre-alpha, to a release, all in 5 months?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: go for the hack, you know its goooood :D
[11:46] <alankila> this stuff seems buggier beyond belief
[11:46] <decora> ct-529 you gotta use the '/' key to search, and then type in a word like 'extract' to skim through it
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: log bugs, gets things fixed
[11:47] <Flannel> jiga123123: When you release every six months, yes.
[11:48] <alankila> there's no point because the rate of change on linux systems is such that more bugs are added than get fixed. This is what jamie zawinski called the adhd kid mentality of open source programming. :-/
[11:48] <nickkontos> hello, I don't have the network manager icon on my taskbar, does anyone can help me please?
[11:48] <Rabbitbunny> alankila: This is for support, not soap-boxing.
[11:48] <ct529> decora: orgh .... that only gets the name, the man page says .... I need to extract the file not just the name (I can extract the name with tar -tvjf | grep name)
[11:48] <Cale> I've uninstalled Pulseaudio (since it totally falls down on my sound configuration), and rebuilt gnome-applets and a couple other things to get the sound volume panel applet working with alsa again. However, despite the fact that the Keyboard Shortcuts control panel shows that my volume keys are bound to Volume mute/down/up, they seem unhooked (presumably because they're attached to pulseaudio apis somehow)
[11:49] <diddy> Does anybody know how to start the seahorse daemon?
[11:49] <Cale> Does anyone know what package I ought to rebuild to get back the behaviour in Jaunty/previous versions?
[11:49] <ct529> decora: solved! thanks sorry for bothering ....
[11:49] <decora> alankila: i am sure it is frustrating but a 'show stopper' bug like that will get attention if enough people complain
[11:49] <diddy> In Ubuntu 9.10 the searhose daemon is not started automatically. A bug? How do I start it?
[11:50] <alankila> Let me just do the win32 solution to my problem: reboot.
[11:50] <ardchoille> diddy: seahorse-agent
[11:50] <jiga123123> how to uninstall pulseaudio? whe i tried in 8.04, it said i'd need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop with that...
[11:50] <Cale> jiga123123: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package and doesn't have anything useful in it
[11:50] <hl_99> hey there, i would like to disable the C4 CPU state in ubuntu since the noise drives me crazy (im using a thinkpad T60)
[11:51] <sudheesh_> how to read mail from command line
[11:51] <Cale> jiga123123: (it just depends on other stuff)
[11:51] <dsample> I'm attempting to create an AMD64 Alternate USB Stick installer (from Windows), but the guide on actualreality.wordpress.com doesn't seem to work, it gives an error when it does 'scan hard drives for an installer ISO image'
[11:51] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to change input method to japanese?
[11:51] <Cale> jiga123123: You can uninstall pulseaudio, but if you're doing so in Karmic, be prepared for some headaches.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> sudheesh_: mutt is a fantastic email client
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: system -> admin -> keyboard
[11:52] <decora> ct529: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/
[11:52] <ardchoille> diddy: You can add this line to /etc/X11/Xsession.options to run seahorse on login: use-ssh-agent
[11:52] <ardchoille> diddy: That's the way it's setup by default in Jaunty
[11:52] <dsample> The error message it gives is "Error while running 'modprobe -v yenta_socket'
[11:52] <jiga123123> Cale, i don't really want headaches, i want sound to work that is all... %/
[11:53] <mrjoe_> in karmic, does anyone know how i can change the resolution on my netbook (1024x600) to 1024x768?
[11:53] <ardchoille> diddy: Ignore that line, typo on my part, sorry
[11:53] <decora> isolat3dsh33p: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: system -> prefs -> display
[11:54] <Cale> jiga123123: In earlier versions of ubuntu, it's a good idea to remove pulseaudio. I've removed it in karmic, but it took about a day and a half of screwing around to work out that I have to rebuild a few packages from source with different flags to get things like the volume control to work properly.
[11:54] <decora> dsample: can you show me the exact webpage you are looking at
[11:54] <mrjoe_> ActionJacks_, it doesn't have an option for it
[11:54] <Cale> jiga123123: And I still don't have my volume keys working...
[11:54] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1, decora : thanks :D
[11:54] <ShawnRisk> I am going nuts
[11:55] <dsample> decora: http://actualreality.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/installing-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-with-a-usb-drive/
[11:55] <mrjoe_> oops, that was meant for ActionParsnip1
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: then you may have to define it in xorg.conf
[11:55] <diddy> ardchoille, ignore what line?
[11:56] <alankila> Okay, that fixed it. If I set the default to Finalnd, GDM at least has the decency to remember my choice. The reason I never noticed this before looking for it is that these controls for selecting keyboard and session do not appear until I select my user account at gdm main panel. At this point my eyes are focused on the panel and I never even noticed these options until I knew to look for them.
[11:56] <decora> dsample: and what are youd oing when you get that error message?
[11:56] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf? cuz when i go to edit it there's nothing...
[11:56] <Faithful> I'm trying to get sftp server to work as part as ssh server. But when try to connect with sftp I get subsystem request failed... I have googled till the cows came home... but I still haven't figured it.
[11:56] <decora> alankila: i would file a user interface bug on that
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: yes, you need to find a skeleton file you can edit
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: or find out how you can generate one
[11:57] <dsample> decora: installer starts, I choose my language, keyboard layout, then it comes up with that error
[11:57] <alankila> decora: well, I'm not sure what the point is to complain. Some people obviously prefer the simplicity of not having too many controls. I just think, personally, that these controls are in the wrong place, too far away from the eyes. But then again, they're probably placed there for just this reason: to not distract the user.
[11:57] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, gah, so much work just to play a game.
[11:57] <dsample> decora: the dialog behind the error says "Detecting hardware to find hard drives"
[11:58] <alankila> it just took a long time for me to realize that GDM is probably feeding the wrong keyboard layout, but once such suspicion did occur to me then it was easy to check.
[11:58] <Faithful> is sftp supposed to be running as a service... because I don't see it.
[11:59] <rohdef> where can I find info on writing startup scripts (not the init scripts)
[11:59] <alankila> however, the real bug is having more than one way to muck with the keyboard. Either you set it at GDM or you set it from within GNOME. But having *both* options at the same time is annoying. :-/
[12:00] <decora> dsample: what make and model of laptop do you have
[12:00] <ardchoille> diddy: The seahorse daemon is seahorse-agent
[12:00] <dsample> decora: Lenovo W500
[12:00] <diddy> ardchoille, ok but how do I restart the service?
[12:01] <ardchoille> diddy: atl+f2, type seahorse-agent and run it
[12:01] <decora> dsample: what version of ubuntu you trying to install
[12:01] <dsample> decora: karmic
[12:02] <giovanni> #ubuntu -it
[12:02] <decora> dsample: does jaunty work?
[12:02] <giovanni> #join ubuntu -it
[12:03] <DJones> giovanni: Type "/join #ubuntu-it" without the quotes
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: yor call, i have an xorg.conf file I always use backed up so if i need to get my display back I can just copy it in and everything is ok :)
[12:03] <decora> dsample: do you have any pcmcia plugged into it?
[12:03] <dsample> decora: Haven't tried Jaunty (I only got the laptop this morning), do you think there would be more chance of it working with Jaunty?
[12:03] <alankila> ah, there are a lot of bugs in launchpad already about gdm and layout
[12:03] <dsample> decora: no pcmcia plugged in
[12:03] <nidelius> how can I change the number of rows each scroll step is? right now scrolls four lines in a scroll
[12:04] <noren> hi there how can i change my time zone from console
[12:04] <decora> dsample: it is the first thing i would try personally.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> nidelius: its in mouse settings i believe
[12:04] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, hmm... this could be scary, but sure I guess. worst case scenario i'd just have to delete it, right?
[12:04] <giovanni> hi
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: sure, or rename so you can review the file
[12:04] <alankila> and the very bug I thought of adding is already in GDM Wishlist section. GDM is oblivious of user's preferred choice of keyboard, and that is the bug I thought I'll add.
[12:04] <decora> dsample: assuming the problem is really with modprobe yenta_socket
[12:05] <giovanni> i must change the password
[12:05] <schwezzy> is there a support channel for steam on ubuntu?
[12:05] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, yeah, guess that would be the more intelligent thing to do
[12:05] <giovanni> what is the comand for change?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i can send you mine if you want, you can change it around a bit as you need
[12:05] <erUSUL> schwezzy: #winehq ?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i can strip it out too if you like
[12:05] <erUSUL> !appdb | schwezzy
[12:05] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, yeah, that would be awesome. joedulin@gmail.com would be good
[12:05] <julien__> francais ?
[12:05] <erUSUL> !fr | julien__
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i'm gonna use pastebin
[12:06] <julien__> merci les rosbif
[12:06] <schwezzy> erUSUL: everytime I mention wine I get !apdb'd
[12:06] <dsample> decora: ok, I'll give it a try, thanks
[12:06] <schwezzy> thanks though
[12:06] <nidelius> ActionParsnip1: not as far as I can see, I have also checked the touchpad settings.. I'm now looking in to fdi files
[12:06] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, if you would don't strip, but it would be awesome if you'd put comments where you would strip it?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> anyone know the #room for empathy?
[12:07] <t4num0y> Hi guys..
[12:07] <noren> never mind i figured out !!
[12:07] <livingdaylight> is it on another server?
[12:07] <pietro_> si
[12:08] <t4num0y> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 today. now my question is how can i install openoffice from cdrom ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: thats the file as is: http://pastebin.com/m2ce5a0e9
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: you just need to change the driver to intel and define modes in the screen section
[12:08] <DJones> t4num0y: If you've done a normal install, openoffice will already be installed
[12:08] <duffydack> anyone in here running karmic with an ati and radeon free driver?
[12:08] <ct529> decora: thanks for the link
[12:08] <noren> t4num0y, add the cdrom in the repos
[12:08] <decora> ct529: cheers
[12:09] <hl_99> Does anyone know how to disable C4 CPU state in ubuntu?
[12:09] <t4num0y> DJones , unfortuanetly i remove it..
[12:09] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, thanks much
[12:09] <t4num0y> noren , how can i do it ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: np man, there are tonnes of guides for adding mode lines
[12:10] <nidelius> t4num0y: system -> administration -> software sources
[12:10] <ritesh> rdesktop, its for remore desktop i figured it out to connect to windows server via ubuntu..
[12:10] <ritesh> works gr8..
[12:10] <t4num0y> nidelius , i have done it .. but during reload it show me errors...
[12:11] <nidelius> ritesh: rdesktop ip -k sv -g 1400x870 -P -a 16 -u Administrator -r disk:linuxdisk=/home/ -T showname
[12:11] <frogzoo> who was the moron who thought it would be a good idea to set permissions on launchpad bug reports?
[12:11] <nidelius> ^^
[12:12] <t4num0y> ^^
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> frogzoo: ask in #launchapd
[12:12] <nidelius> t4num0y: you probably have a non standard repo activated that has errors.. what is it saying?
[12:12] <frogzoo> I will, thanks
[12:13] <decora> what is frogzoo talking about?
[12:13] <t4num0y> Package openoffice.org-core has no available version, but exists in the database.
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> decora: no idea but its launchpad related, go watch if you want ;)
[12:13] <ritesh> nidelius, yeah i kindda figured that out...thanks bro..
[12:14] <emergion> Hey all does anyone know what the deal with Jpane is it spits out its DD's with style="display: block" and that is really making the double margin bug go nuts
[12:14] <frogzoo> decora: I get "Not allowed here               Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.   "
[12:14] <mgv2> how can i avoid copy paste when translating?????????
[12:15] <noren> t4num0y, do  u have deb packages for openoffice
[12:15] <t4num0y> noren , i have 9.10 cdrom...
[12:16] <nidelius> ritesh: it's great only one thing bothers me, key bindings are slipping into the active rdesktop session and your features gets locked into the rdesktop, alt+tab for example.
[12:16] <noren> t4num0y, open the synaptic and go to the repository and add the cd there
[12:16] <AzmoRain> Long the server will be switched off?
[12:16] <ritesh> nidelius, wait..i am connecting..to server..
[12:17] <plustax> Hi guys. I'm having a couple of important issues. I just installed ubuntu through wubi on my desktop. but when it all booted up I got not compatible with signal on my tv. Then it rebooted by itself(i think it was making its normal setup changes) and now when I boot up to linux it takes me to GNU grub and I dont know what to do with it. Help!!
[12:17] <ritesh> nidelius, havnt done that before..
[12:17] <plustax> I also have no idea how to navigate grub at all or even what it is.
[12:17] <psyk> am i the only one whit trubble whit java and flash in mozilla on jaunty?
[12:18] <DSpair> psyk: There's a quick fix for that.
[12:18] <nidelius> ritesh: it works as expected I would say, but I would like to disable the expected functionality to keep linux keybindings when using rdesktop ;)
[12:18] <psyk> DSpair: k, were how and when? :P
[12:18] <DSpair> psyk: Wait one sec and I will send you a link
[12:18] <ShawnRisk> no luck with my problem on wireless connections
[12:18] <noren> !flash | psyk
[12:19] <DSpair> psyk: Do a google search for compiz bug 410407 and there is a work-around in that thread.
[12:20] <nidelius> ritesh: alt+ tab was a bad example, if you run compiz ctrl+alt +left/right is a better example.. would be cool to just slide through your linux desktops and have a rdesktop session in one of them
[12:20] <SuperDefenderX> Can someone tell me how I find out where applications install in the Linux File System?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> nidelius: its the same in metacity too, just faster and less pretty
[12:21] <psyk> DSpair: tnx m8. will look at it soon. gtg :P
[12:21] <plustax> can anyone help get me out of grub to my desktop please?
[12:21] <decora> plustax: so it doesnt offer any boot options in grub? just a prompt?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: they dont install to a specific place like windows
[12:21] <noren> SuperDefenderX, u can cjeck them out the /bin
[12:22] <JerVA> Hello. I have a question about Lucid Lynx - 10.04 next release concerning LPIA.
[12:22] <decora> SuperDefenderX: use dpkg and --listfiles or whatever, man dpkg
[12:22] <JerVA> I have Pentium 4 processor - is that part of the LPIA?
[12:22] <SuperDefenderX> ActionParsnip: Then how do you know where to find the one file that launches the program?
[12:22] <plustax> it doesnt offer any boot options
[12:22] <grawity> SuperDefenderX: The system checks all directories in $PATH. Go to terminal, type "echo $PATH"
[12:22] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: lib files can e shared between softwares making downloads smaller, they will go in /usr/lib /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib64. Other files will go into other places like some icons will go into /usr/share/pixmaps. A binary will sit in /usr/bin and be the thing you run, but when it does it will use all the other things it needs
[12:23] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: you can use the command: which <command here>. e.g.   which gedit
[12:23] <grawity> SuperDefenderX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard is followed by most Linux and other Unix-like systems.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: but that isnt all the program is, it has libs and other stuff it needs to run, that file is just the thing to kick it all off
[12:24] <SuperDefenderX> ActionParsnip: So, let's say I'm using "blam", the "binary" is sitting in the "unix system resources/binary" directory?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: linux isnt like windows where apps live in theri own folder and everything is in there and very little all over the place, the apps use shared libs, more than one app may use a single lib, saves downloading the same stuff twice
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: the binary you run will most likely be /usr/bin/blam but it will use other apps and other stuff to achieve its goal
[12:25] <mgv2> how can i avoid copy paste when translating?????????
[12:26] <mgv2> is it not very secured to use unfamilier email service?
[12:26] <luNix> hi
[12:27] <SuperDefenderX> ActionParsnip: Okay, gottcha. "Blam" might require some "libx.x" to run, so it will fecth that from another directory.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: exactly
[12:27] <decora> mgv2: translating what?
[12:28] <mgv2> decora, word
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> SuperDefenderX: thats why you also install other packages wen you install apps, you dont just install te app itself as it NEEDS the other stuff to run
[12:28] <decora> mgv2: translate.google.com ?
[12:28] <luNix> I installed Openbox over Gnome, and after login with Openbox sound are muted, why?
[12:29] <mgv2> decora, ive a word in a webpage and i want to copy it fast to wiktionary
[12:29] <decora> SuperDefenderX: if you really want to know every sublibrary and subfile that, say, 'ls' uses, run strace -f ls 2>&1 | grep open
[12:30] <wirelessx3> the aircrack compatibility_drivers page  was last modified on September 25th. Does the rt2860 support injection now? Does anyone running *Karmic Koala* managed to inject with the rt2860 without recompiling the kernel?
[12:30] <decora> mgv2: there might be some firefox addons to do that for you, but i think you are stuck with ctrl-c ctrl-v and alt-tab
[12:30] <ChogyDan1> wirelessx3: I think there is a distro dedicated to that, I forget the name
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> decora: or alt + super + tab (if its enabled in compiz ;))
[12:31] <decora> what is alt super tab?
[12:31] <mgv2> alt-tab decora ? i dont like the keyboard anyway
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> decora: ring tab switcher
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> decora: try it
[12:31] <decora> i dont have a 'super' button
[12:31] <DjAngo23> Is there a software like Dragon Naturally speaking for Linux ? It is, a voice command program
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> decora: makes the aps swing in a circle instead of in a straight line
[12:31] <wirelessx3> ChogyDan1, you mean a karmic koala based distro?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> decora: super = windows key
[12:33] <m4rtin> anyone know, with imagemagick's convert tool, how I can resize and specify maximum width or height (ie. I don't want the image to exceed 400 width or 350 height and it should treat those as max dimensions)?
[12:33] <luNix> well, thanks anyway
[12:34] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: its me again and i want you to lead me again with the pastebin
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> decora: super == windows key
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: http://pastebin.com
[12:35] <decora> i dont have a windows key. this is an eeepc
[12:35] <erUSUL> decora: then you will have to remap the combos to use a key you have
[12:36] <decora> i really dont care about simulating an acid trip with my window manager
[12:36] <ChogyDan1> wirelessx3: don't think so.  Its called Backtrack
[12:36] <lepton> hi. I made a key drive that boots ubuntu 9.10 with the casper-rw file to save changes. can I modify the boot so it boots straight to the desktop with the live option (1st in the boot menu)?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> decora: i see, then assign a different key to it. I used to disable the alt+tab normal behavious and atribute it to the ring switcher
[12:36] <epinky> m4rtin: convert -sample 400x350 yourimage.jpg yourimage-newsize.jpg
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> decora: theres that weird key with the home symbol in its place, maybe its that
[12:36] <Glowball> Hi
[12:36] <Glowball> How can I set that programs may overlap panels?
[12:36] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: after that
[12:37] <m4rtin> epinky: many many thanks - I'll give it a go
[12:37] <Glowball> It's just a small panel on the left side of my screen with some launchers which is hidden all the time
[12:37] <toll_2323> hi
[12:37] <m4rtin> epinky: absolutely perfect; thanks again
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: copy the text, paste it on the site, add your name and click paste
[12:38] <epinky> !yay | m4rtin
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: the page will change, copy the address in the address bar and paste here as an update
[12:38] <decora> lepton... does it use grub?
[12:38] <toll_2323> i want to run a command in bash and logout, and have it run in the background, (i would normally use nohup) is it the same on ubuntu?
[12:38] <m4rtin> haha, awesome
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> toll_2323:  nohup is standar4d on most linux and unix's from what ive seen.. not sure about bsd. :)
[12:39] <lepton> decora I don't think so. poking around in /syslinux. found some timeout entries in config files
[12:39] <grawity> toll_2323: It's same in all distros: a) disown; b) nohup; c) screen
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Glowball:  when i set the panels to autohide here. windows can overlap the panels
[12:39] <lepton> decora: there is no /boot/grub directory on the key drive
[12:39] <toll_2323> ive never heard of disown before
[12:40] <lepton> toll_2323: it's old unix shell
[12:40] <toll_2323> screen looks like it should do the trick but seems complicated
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> disown
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> bash: disown: current: no such job
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:40] <decora> lepton: sorry... not real familiar with casper.
[12:40] <grawity> toll_2323: when you run "something &" to launch it in background, you can run 'disown' to prevent bash from killing it.
[12:40] <grawity> toll_2323: Anyway, there's nohup too, if you like it.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> screen is good in specific cases.. depending on what you want to do.
[12:40] <toll_2323> grawity: yep, that would do the trick
[12:41] <toll_2323> i have a long running script on a remote server, and my desktop keeps crashing ;-)
[12:41] <Glowball> Dr_Willis: Ehm.. It isn't coming back from autohide? :(
[12:41] <Linux-IRC> Is there any window manager that has configured,built-in,full-application menu with all applicaions like kde or gnome applicaion manu?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Glowball:  mouse to the panel and it pops back up here
[12:41] <Glowball> Dr_Willis: I know. But it doesn't..
[12:41] <Linux-IRC> startup menu
[12:42] <jiga123123> how is xfce different from lxce?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  most of those menus get auto-generated by several tools from the various .desktop files
[12:42] <grawity> Linux-IRC: What's wrong with KDE or GNOME applications menus?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  theres the 'xdg' tools to generate menu layout files for a variaty of window managers i recall
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> XFCE  is not the same as LXDE :) different 'desktops'
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> lxde uses openbox + pcmanfm and a few other tools. for the complete desktop - its very very 'light'
[12:44] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: I know this, i have to run command for xdg_menu --full............., i want to have auto-generated startup menu with window menu, don't want to create menu manually
[12:44] <jiga123123> 'light' as in 'not enough to use', 'bad'?
[12:44]  * Linux-IRC will try with lxde
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  make it run as part of your windoe manager startup scripts. what window manager are you using?
[12:45] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Like fluxbox
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  fluxbox can auto run stuff like that command if you wanted it to.
[12:47] <grawity> jiga123123: "light" as "uses less resources - good for people who dislike heavy things such as KDE"
[12:47] <epinky> Linux-IRC: fluxbox is an awesome alternative, and "awesome" is another :)
[12:47] <jetienne_> Dr_Willis: is there a well known problem specific to shrinking win7 partition (while installing ubuntu). i about to do it, just making sure it is not  known to fails :)
[12:47] <alankila> fluxbox is pretty old school. It reminds me mostly of fvwm2 and afterstep and their ilk. LXDE is actually a desktop.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> jetienne_:  i dont use windows 7. so no idea. i would say check the forums.  I find the native windows tools MUCH MUCH MUCH faster at resizeing NTFS partitions then gparted  does. like 5x as fast. So i resize mine from within windows
[12:47] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Are you talking , ~/.fluxbox/menu , to have this line xdg_menu --fullname --format fluxbox --root-menu /path/to/file.menu >~/.fluxbox/menu
[12:48] <Linux-IRC> ?
[12:48] <scottman451> Hi.  Any experts on Gnucash account lists in here?
[12:48] <luNix> amixer does not save my settings, and sound are back to muted after I log in
[12:48] <jetienne_> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  proberly somthing similer to that.  Ive not used fluxbox in ages.
[12:48] <scottman451> The "real" gnucash channel is very quiet, so I thought I'd ask here.
[12:48] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Which do you use?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  im just using normal ubuntu gnome for now.
[12:48] <toll_2323> what is the meta key?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> I dont see the need to rebuild my own 'desktop'
[12:49] <luNix> happend after I changed from Gnome to Openbox
[12:49] <Linux-IRC> alankila: Which do you use ?
[12:49] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: lxde is not windows manager , it's not that much lightweight as fluxbox
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> fluxbox is slightly old skool. :) icewm and windowmaker and fvwm = old skool :)
[12:49] <alankila> LXDE, but only on one system that is too weak to run gnome.
[12:50] <luNix> am I invincible?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  i never said lxde was a window manager..   that i recall. i said LXDE uses fluxbox (or openbox) _ extra tools.. for the whole desktop setup
[12:50] <alankila> I'm contemplating switching uniformly to LXDE, though. It starts up so fast and if it supplies me just the same features as I currently want from GNOME, then there's no value added by GNOME for me and I would like faster startup.
[12:50] <decora> mwm baby
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> I dont care for lxde much at all.  or xfce either.
[12:50] <decora> lol does anyone remember fvwm95
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> decora:  yes. :)
[12:51]  * alankila probably ran fvwm95 among the other back-then window managers.
[12:51] <epinky> luNix: sudo alsactl store
[12:51] <Rajasun> then there came fvwm-crystal
[12:51] <alankila> there was one window manager that was written in some variant of LISP that I almost liked... now what was it called ...
[12:51] <decora> those were the days, trying to run fvwm95 and starcraft in wine
[12:51] <luNix> epinky, guess I already tried that
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> 'window managers for X' --->  http://xwinman.org/
[12:52] <alankila> I used it a a lot and it had a look called "microGUI", I think, it was pleasant to look at
[12:52] <alankila> sawfish!
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> I recall when 'sawfish' was the default window manager for gnome.. then suddendly  it got decided to use 'metacity' which no one had heard of.. and had like no features.. compared to the other wm's out
[12:52] <Yage> Maybe im a bit oldschool, but, using init.d you can debug a script using "bash -x" or whatever, with upstart you just receive a "failed" message... does anybody knows if i can debug a script in the same way?
[12:53] <luNix> epinky, I give it another change, bbl, hope it worked now :)
[12:54] <decora> Yage what is upstart
[12:54] <alankila> so gnome actually used sawfish...
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[12:54] <Cale> alankila: a long time ago, yes. I remember that.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> alankila:  ages and ages ago. Like befor Ximian got into the act.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> For those that rember 'ximian gnome' vs 'normal gnome' :)
[12:54] <scatterp> hi how to stream VIDEO (preferably qt mp4) from a frame buffer console (i.e. not a pty or xterm)?
[12:54] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Installed icewm , but the application menu has no programs, it's almost blank
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  so use those xdg tools to generate the proper menu files for icewm i guess.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> auto configuring app menus are a fairly 'new'  thing in linux also. :)
[12:55] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: im struggling what text
[12:55] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: If i use xdg , applicaion menu will come with "mouse-right-click" , right ?
[12:56] <virtuald> dr_willis: debian have had their menus for many years
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  if i recall icewm had the start button, and  on the right menu applications
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> virtuald:  yes.. and i rember befor that time. :)
[12:56] <virtuald> (:
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> I remember when icewm was 'cutting edge'
[12:56] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: If i use xdg, will all applications appear at start button?
[12:57] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: I want all programs on startup button of icewm
[12:57] <Yage> i hate upstart
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  no idea. try it and see.
[12:57] <virtuald> dr_willis: that's nothing, I remember when evilwm was cutting edge!
[12:57] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: it says Index of file://paste.com/ and after that 'name' with files
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> virtuald:  i rember when xdm and twm was standard. :P
[12:57] <virtuald> :)
[12:57] <virtuald> i never used xdm
[12:58] <decora> scatterp: wow its been a long time... you need a vid player that can output to... uhm... either framebuffer or maybe SDL or even (old school) svgalib
[12:58] <virtuald> i used startx
[12:59] <scatterp> decora no im not trying to play im trying to record..
[12:59] <decora> scatterp what is your source?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:00] <Jerkman> hey
[13:00] <devtux87> hi
[13:01] <devtux87> i need help in developing
[13:01] <virtuald> dr_willis: when was twm standard? just before fvwm95?
[13:01] <devtux87> i cant find the blacklist file in the karmic dektop iso image
[13:01] <luNix> epinky, still muted after login
[13:01] <scatterp> decora framebuffer as in ttyrec
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> !blacklist
[13:02] <devtux87> i need to change it to disable broken rtl driver
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> is ubottu sleeping?
[13:02] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Is xdm the console based login promt ?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> virtuald:  i recall it being the default for X like.. ages and ages ago.   back when olvwm was high tech :)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> there she goes
[13:03] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: xdm = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_%28program_type%29  , is it ?
[13:03] <epinky> luNix: which is your current user? "sudo chown youruser:youruser /var/lib/alsa/asound.state" and retry
[13:03] <devtux87> ubottu i know where is blacklist in an installed system! But what about live cd iso image? :P
[13:03] <luNix> epinky, but I found something... I got lxpanel, and from there I found "openbox session" in the meny, and clicked, and I hade sound again... so I'm kinda close to solve it, right?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> epinky: you can use $USER in those if you like, easier
[13:03] <scatterp> decora am i making sense?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  yes. xdm, gdm, kdm, then theres others
[13:04] <luNix> epinky, lxpanel takes Gnomes menu, I guess
[13:04] <devtux87> i need to edit the livecd iso image?
[13:04] <decora> scatterp: you are trying to record what is being output to the framebuffer?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> devtux87: i'd imagine its the same, ubottu is a bot so she won't respond
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  theres console type variants also.  and some use the framebuffer.
[13:04] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Display_Manager_%28implementation%29 , this?
[13:04] <luNix> epinky, got phone, brb
[13:04] <decora> scatterp: i dont know how to do that sorry.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> !remaster | devtux87
[13:04] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Display_Manager_%28implementation%29
[13:04] <paissad-hp> i installed a deb package via dpkg , i typed after sudo apt-get -f, but that does not solve the depends !
[13:05] <paissad-hp> iU  mediainfo                                     0.7.25-1                                   MediaInfo supplies information about a video
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> thats 'xdm' Linux-IRC  :)
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[13:05] <Jerkman> got a question here, i have 2 hard drives, 80 sata and 500gb sata. I have windows 7 x64 pro installed on the 80, and have just installed ubuntu 9.10 on hte 500. I want to dualboot. which bootloader should i keep? how do i go about this
[13:05] <pao_> lol
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> paissad-hp: then what are you missing? what does sudo apt-get -f    say you need?
[13:05] <scatterp> ok
[13:05] <decora> jerkman: use easybcd
[13:06] <scatterp> decora got a clearer suggestion how i could ask my question ?
[13:06] <Jerkman> easybcd.. windows app i presume
[13:06] <littlegreen> can someone please tell me the name of a Hamachi-equivalent for Ubuntu 9.10?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> Jerkman: grub2 can boot both, the 80 will not have its bootloader changed, just point the BIOS at the 500 and grub2 will load
[13:06] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip1, to install missing packages
[13:06] <paissad-hp> no ?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> paissad-hp: yes, but which packages does it say you are missing
[13:06] <centerpoint>  Excuse me ,I and my friend are not in a city , we get on the Internet all in school. Do not have public ip,  Therefore
[13:06] <centerpoint>  we can chat on qq, but have no way to login the other  machine. (For instance , ssh  )  we want to login each other 'machine. if have a solution? hope giving directions.
[13:07] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip1, paissad@paissad-hp:/work/DEB$ dpkg -i mediainfo_0.7.25-1_amd64.Debian_5.deb
[13:07] <Jerkman> ActionParsnip1: ok, but how do i add win 7 to grub?
[13:07] <littlegreen> Does someone know a program that is Hamachi-equivalent for Ubuntu?
[13:07] <decora> scatterp: no... im just dumb
[13:07] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: im struggling what text must i copy
[13:07] <Rprp`> Hello. does Ubuntu support SSD Trim?
[13:07] <scatterp> ok
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> centerpoint: if you have no internet how do you propose you connect to each others systems?
[13:07] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip1, dpkg -l | grep mediainfo
[13:07] <paissad-hp> iU  mediainfo
[13:07] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: twm,fluxbox,openbox,blackbox,all are same ,aren't those ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:08] <phako> hi
[13:08] <alankila> Rprp`: I think not yet. The SSD trim is apparently not suitable to be issued for all devices as it can take long time to execute, and is not queueable.
[13:08] <decora> scatterp: what program are you running that you want to record?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  those are 'window managers'     in that respect they are the 'same'
[13:08] <luNix> epinky, how do I type that youruser:youruser, is it me as user? I typed lnx:lnx
[13:08] <phako> is there an migration howto from postgresql 8.3 to 8.4 when updating from jaunty to karmic?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> paissad-hp: yes, but then you ran: sudo apt-get -f install    and didnt get the dependancies you needed so its not installed yet. Once you get the debs you need the software will be installed
[13:08] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Dozons are here http://xwinman.org/
[13:08] <Rprp`> alankila: aha oke, thnx.
[13:08] <alankila> so it means that buffers must be drained first, and then a trim issued, and it can take 100 ms or so to run, so it can only be issued rarely in practice.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> paissad-hp: hence the Ui bit instead of ii in the dpkg output
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  i posted that URL earlier to the channel.
[13:09] <luNix> epinky, ...I log in as lnx
[13:09] <Jerkman> so easybcd, or grub 2?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> paissad-hp: if the deps are not on your current repos you need to either download them or add another repo for the system to download it from
[13:09] <alankila> maybe if modern drives have faster TRIM commands, it'll be possible to use them.
[13:09] <epinky> luNix: yes, you can use "sudo chown $USER /var/lib/alsa/asound.state" as ActionParsnip1 recommended
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Jerkman:  its worth learning how to use Grub2
[13:09] <ManDay> art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org  - which is better for themes?
[13:10] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: But there xterm is a problem , isn't it? can't increase the size of xterm
[13:10] <ManDay> (controls and design)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: neither is "better"
[13:10] <decora> jerkman: try easybcd first it is easier
[13:10] <Jerkman> ok, but i dont want to learn a new technology.. just get functionality
[13:10] <paissad-hp> ActionJacks_, indeed, when i do sudo apt-get -f install , .... the package mediainfo is deleted
[13:10] <Jerkman> thanks decora
[13:10] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: xterm font size
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: look at both and grab a theme you like
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: how can one possibly be better in any way?
[13:10] <ManDay> im just having troubles navicating on gnome-look.org - i just wodner whether i am the only one
[13:10] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: the hole text
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> !theme | ManDay
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: yes please
[13:10] <decora> jerkman: although sometimes you wind up having to use both
[13:10] <luNix> epinky, good, but I got nothing back after entering that
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  the original 'xterm' takes command line options or settings file to set the font.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: doesnt matter how much text there is, its still free
[13:11] <littlegreen> Hey guys! Does anyone know a Hamachi-equivalent for Ubuntu? or at least something that creates compability with Win's VPN?
[13:11] <epinky> luNix: then it's ok, retry
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn | littlegreen
[13:11] <ManDay> ActionParsnip1, my problem is that i really donot uinderstand the difference bettwen gtk, wm decoration, themes etc pp
[13:11] <ManDay> its confusing
[13:11] <Jerkman> dling easybcd then
[13:11] <littlegreen> ActionParsnip1 thanks
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: i guess its time for you to research then, it will benefit you
[13:12] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Can you tell the way to increase the size of xterm?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  you may want to install/use the 'gnome-art' and 'gnome-art-ng' tools
[13:12] <luNix> epinky, nothing show it, realy
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: the windows decorator is the bar which says the applications name
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  use the -fn option
[13:12] <ManDay> you can be so very wise sometimes, ActionParsnip1
[13:12] <epinky> luNix: I mean saving your configuration  and checking after
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  xterm -sb -sl 2000 -bg black -fg white -fn 10x20
[13:12] <ManDay> thanks willis
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  gnome-art-ng (or was it gnome-artng) is  not in the repos.. but its very usefull
[13:13] <luNix> epinky, was about to ask save from where", hehe, but from alsamixer , right? :)
[13:13] <epinky> luNix: yes and rebooting if you can
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:   the term 'theme' is a bit missleading comapred to how windows uses the term.  a gnome 'thmeme' defines which 'parts' to use' parts are 'icon set' 'window border decorations' 'widgits decoration' and colors.   I think i got them all right.
[13:14] <ManDay> ah!
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  a theme file in gnome just defines  which one of the parts to use.
[13:14] <Jerkman> ddo i point easybcd to drive 0, or do i specify the / partiton ,ie drive 0 partition 0
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  a theme file does NOT conatin the parts.
[13:14] <luNix> epinky, will do, brb
[13:14] <ManDay> thats unfortunate - i thought a theme was a standalone package
[13:14] <ManDay> willis, that explains a lot! thanks
[13:14] <Rajasun> there is also epidermis for your theming needs these days...check out https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  a theme file just says whata parts to use. You can use the customize button to pick what parts you want.
[13:15] <ManDay> knew that
[13:15] <decora> jerkman: you need to read the easybcd instructiosn they are on the web.
[13:15] <ManDay> ok, then i prolly dont want any theme
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  epidermis is also handy. it can change  stuff system wide.
[13:15] <Jerkman> decora: lol, true. probs should have done that anyway
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> ManDay: you can even get scripts which folks have made to set themes and such, gnomeP is a good example of this
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  theres also several theme parts in the repositories - not installed by default.. Look for metacity, and gtk themes.
[13:16] <ManDay> nah im fine with choosing the "parts" (controls, decoration, colors) on my own
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> 'theme' is such a vague and broad term - its almost meaningless at times
[13:16] <ManDay> dont need a theme then
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  select your parts and save the settings to a 'theme' and there ya go. you can revert back to your own theme if you want
[13:17] <ManDay> what are these things called again which all the stuff is based upon? last time i installed ubuntu i had a hard tiem finding out what they are and what of them i need. unfortunally i didnt make any notes so I stand at that point again. is gtk-engine the right word?
[13:17] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Is it possible to have tab in xterm and how to page up , page down, scroll ?
[13:17] <ebbpp> Hi! I have this question-somebody have any idea how to make a ubuntu in shell to redetect keyboard? The keyboard has stopped working in login screen?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  if you download some more theme parts from the gnome-look sites just drag.drop them to the 'appearance properties' window and it should install them
[13:18] <decora> ebbpp: unplug and replug ??
[13:18] <Jerkman> WTF... upon choosing ubuntu in my new bcd, i get Starting Windows 95... tyoe the name of the command interpreter
[13:18] <decora> ebbpp: are you on 9.10?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  the origianl xterm does not do tabs  Use a different terminal program for such features
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Jerkman: type: command.com
[13:18] <ebbpp> No now I'm at 8.04
[13:19] <decora> jerkman: uhmmmmmm .... youre doing it wrong
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Jerkman: if that fails type: C:\WINDOWS\system32\command.com
[13:19] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: yes i copied everything now?
[13:19] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Does origianl xterm have scrolling option?
[13:19] <decora> jerkman: easybcd has its own neogrub thing, try using that
[13:19] <ebbpp> Yeah-on laptop it is not possible
[13:19] <grawity> Linux-IRC: It does.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  it has a scroll bar. :) and a man page.
[13:19] <ShawnRisk> one last try
[13:19] <decora> jerkman: instead of the standard linux option
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: ok paste to the site, type your name, click paste, page changes, copy address, paste here
[13:19] <Jerkman> ok.. none worked ActionParsnip. decora, i will try
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Jerkman: bah
[13:20] <decora> ebbpp what kind of laptop?
[13:20] <Dupont> can anyone tell me which port does the VPN use so I can forward it from the router to my PC?
[13:20] <ebbpp> Sony Vaio with AMD XP+ I think 2000
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Dupont: 12975/TCP LogMeIn Hamachi (VPN tunnel software; also port 32976)—used to connect to Mediation Server (bibi.hamachi.cc); will attempt to use SSL (TCP port 443) if both 12975 & 32976 fail to connect
[13:21] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: after pasted my name correct
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Dupont: 1194/TCP,UDP OpenVPN
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: yes, then click paste
[13:21] <grawity> Don't forget PPTP and L2TP
[13:21] <paissad-hp> i would like to upgrade just one package (vuze) .. knowing that the version installed on my system is different from the version is see with aptitude show vuze
[13:21] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance for helping
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: sudo apt-get --reinstall install vuze
[13:22] <paissad-hp> when i do aptitude safe-upgrade, that does nothing
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: will only upgrade vuze from the repo for you
[13:22] <llutz> paissad-hp: aptitude reinstall vuze
[13:22] <Dupont> ActionParsnip thanks! If I have my router allowing VPNs will I still need to forward that port?
[13:22] <decora> ebbpp: does the kbd work  in windows?
[13:22] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, ok thanks ...
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Dupont: if the vpn endpoint is beyond the router, yes
[13:22] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: like e.g cheslyn/[paste]
[13:22] <ShaMun> Fedora 12 or Ubuntu would be a better option for Server? (dovocot+lampp+hosting server)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: i really can't make it any clearer.
[13:23] <paissad-hp> but i thought that Ubuntu updated automatically the packages , or how can i do to make some packages to be upgraded and updated automatically ?
[13:23] <ebbpp> It works in grub menu and yeah it worked in windows before I insalled ubuntu on it
[13:24] <decora> shamun you are asking in a #ubuntu forum lol, dont you think we are a little biased here?
[13:24] <ebbpp> The keyboard was working also in ubuntu 6.06 before I have it upgraded to 8.04
[13:24] <om26er_> flash does not register any clicks in ubuntu 9.10 (flash was installed with ubuntu-restricted-extras).
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: copy the text you wis to paste in the room. go to http://pastebin.com   paste the text in to the BIG white space, there is a little box for your name, then click the paste button below. The page will change. If you copy then paste the address in here we can see the text you pasted
[13:24] <om26er_> *64-bit karmic
[13:24] <luNix> epinky, it's funny, I have Openbox as session when I log in... and no sound, but after I clicked in the lxpanel-menu om something called "Openbox Session" sound are back, and the command for that is "openbox-session", and comment are "Use this session to run Openbox as your desktop environment", any ideas?
[13:24] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Which terminal do you prefer ?
[13:24] <decora> ebbpp: so reboot doesnt help?
[13:25] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Scrolling is not working
[13:25] <decora> ebbpp: can you give specific model number of laptop?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  i use terminator
[13:25] <ShaMun> decora, thank u
[13:25] <ebbpp> nope-and repairing of the packecges also no
[13:25] <epinky> luNix: then one more command is missing, read this post(workaround) about alsactl restore: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8243683
[13:25] <ebbpp> PCG-FR33/B
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> luNix:  i found the lxde desktop to be a little rough in places
[13:26] <ooaaaoo> how do i find info about messing with ps2linux to make it play dvd's?
[13:26] <luNix> epinky, will do
[13:26]  * om26er_ thinks lxde might be promoted in lucid cycle
[13:26] <om26er_> with lubuntu
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> ooaaaoo:  id have to say goog.e  Ive not evenheard ps2 linux mentioned in years.. Unless you mean PS3 linux
[13:27] <ebbpp> Decora: there isn't any command line in terminal that can force ubuntu to detect the keyboard again?
[13:27] <ManDay> Is it a broken dep that libxext6 depends on x11-common?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ebbpp:  how would you type the command if the terminalis not working?
[13:27] <decora> ebbpp how can you type in command line with no keyboard?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> yea what decora  said.. :)
[13:27] <ooaaaoo> Dr_Willis:  no ps2, I saw one in the pawn shop for 70 bucks
[13:27] <ebbpp> you can always boot grub manu ;)
[13:27] <ooaaaoo> which is heaps cheap here in aussieland
[13:27] <decora> ebbpp: if your keyboard uses usb subsystem... you might be able to rmmod the usb modules then reload them
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> ooaaaoo:  Good luck with it. It was a big thing a few years back.. and now..   Id be suprised  if its still being developed.
[13:28] <ebbpp> and in grub manu it works-it doesn't work in loging screen
[13:28] <decora> PCG-FR33/B is you battery not your laptop
[13:28] <decora> ebbpp does the mouse work ?
[13:29] <RanyAlbeg1> Hi all , im using wget to download a file. im executing wget "url" .. but i dont get the file i want just a file starts with the prefix "index"
[13:29] <RanyAlbeg1> can u help?
[13:29] <ebbpp> No-it is a model name-probably you cannot find it-becouse it was sold on Japaneese market only
[13:29] <ooaaaoo> Dr_Willis : well last i heard the way sony's going ps3 linux might be a misnomer sometime soon
[13:29] <decora> ebbpp oh sorry... lol
[13:29] <ebbpp> Yes-mause works perfectly all the time
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> ooaaaoo:  with the new ps3's out - it is gone.
[13:30]  * spoilt heya
[13:30] <andrewmcdonough> RanyAlbeg1: try opening the index file in your browser and you will see what the problem is
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:30] <ooaaaoo> Dr_Willis: yup
[13:30] <andrewmcdonough> e.g. it might be a 404 page, or a page telling you that you have to log in, etc
[13:30] <decora> ebbpp: can you look at your X startup logfiles to see if it has error messages about the keyboard? can you plug in an external usb keyboard to look at them?
[13:31] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: any shortcut for a screenshot
[13:31] <decora> RanyAlbeg1: please post exact url and command line you are using
[13:31] <ebbpp> So there isn't any command line that can couse autodetection of keyboard?
[13:31] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: i get server not found
[13:32] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: wget http://www.mediafire.com/?xntobtyqyzd
[13:32] <reactor> guyz how can I resize/move a bootable partition by external utils and then boot from it?
[13:32] <ebbpp> Unfortunatly I don't have any keyboard for usb
[13:32] <decora> ebbpp: sorry i dont know it
[13:33] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: maybe i should ignore certificate with a specific option in wget?
[13:33] <ebbpp> Sorry for stupid question-but on wchich files there are X startup logs
[13:33] <indus> ebbpp: /var/log/Xorg.log
[13:33] <ebbpp> thanks
[13:33] <littlegreen> Is there a Hamachi Client written for Ubuntu 9.10 ? I mean easy install like apt-get install?
[13:34] <grawity> RanyAlbeg1: It isn't anything certificate-related. MediaFire is just set up to disallow downloading with 'wget'.
[13:34] <decora> RanyAlbeg1: wget http://download833.mediafire.com/csb9c993h1tg/xntobtyqyzd/he_windows_7_ultimate_x86_dvd_x15-65933_activated.part01.rar
[13:34] <decora> you are using the wrong url
[13:34]  * Sasuke\ is bored
[13:34] <decora> right clck on 'download here' then 'copy link address', then paste it into console after wget
[13:34] <jiga111222> after the install of 700mb, ubuntu 9.10 takes around 4gb of space. Why is that, what takes up so much space? thank you .
[13:35] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: same thing
[13:35] <Pici> !illegal | RanyAlbeg1
[13:35] <epcom> deia
[13:35] <decora> RanyAlbeg1: im downloading it just fine here. paste exact command line and error message plz
[13:36] <Rajasun> littlegreen: is this what u r looking for? -> http://hamachi-gui.sourceforge.net/download.html Problem here is the project seems to be dead. No updates for more than a year. The debs available are for gutsy and hardy.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: printscreen key
[13:37] <erry> My nautilus crashed and when i restarted it this came up GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)
[13:37] <erry> and now my desktop looks like crp
[13:37] <erry> Is it fixable? :/
[13:37] <jiga111222> after the install of 700mb, ubuntu 9.10 takes around 4gb of space. Why is that, what takes up so much space? thank you .
[13:37] <jiga111222> PLEASE help me understand, and perhaps get rid of what i may not need?
[13:38] <littlegreen> Rajasun do you think it will work on 9.10? I sort of ... need to guide a guy to set it up...
[13:38] <indus> jiga111222: it extracts a lot of files from the cd for installation
[13:38] <llutz> jiga111222: 700mb is highly compressed date which inflates to ~4GB later. use dpkg -l  to see what is installed, aptitude to remove unwanted stuff
[13:38] <llutz> data*
[13:39] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: i get the same file as before
[13:39] <arand> erry: not sure, I would try running a filesystem check: " sudo touch /forcefsck " and reboot.
[13:39] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: no error message
[13:39] <plitter> is there a way for me to change encoding on a textfile from windows to something that pdflatex might agree to?
[13:39] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: oh you mean check it with firefox.. just a sec
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> erry: have you websearched the error?
[13:39] <decora> RanyAlbeg1: what is 'windows ultimate'?
[13:39] <boomernang> jiga111222, or you can download the minimal cd here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD and install only what you want
[13:39] <Rajasun> littlegreen: I'm not sure. Many things hv changed since e.g. the libs, other dependecies
[13:39] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Hello, is it possible to make terminator with transparent background?
[13:39] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: im downloading the OS for my friend
[13:39] <jiga111222> llutz, what are the main things that take up space?
[13:40] <llutz> jiga111222: all the libs/apps
[13:40] <erry> ActionParsnip, yes
[13:40] <decora> plitter: you can use iconv to change encodings
[13:40] <Pici> RanyAlbeg1: We cannot help you download pirated applications in this channel.
[13:40] <erry> arand, the command didnt do antyhing
[13:40] <erry> oh sh*t
[13:40] <decora> RanyAlbeg1: well if its piracy it is not allowed here sorry
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> RanyAlbeg1: make sure you md5 test the iso before burning ;)
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  checkits settings.. yes its possible. its using gnome-terminal
[13:40] <llutz> jiga111222: if you care about used space, use minimal-install
[13:40] <erry> it will want to check when i reboot wont it
[13:40] <erry> nooooo
[13:40] <erry> noooooo
[13:40] <jiga111222> boomernang, Thanks! i wish! although I'm not sure that I know all the things I want. How do I decide?
[13:40] <littlegreen> Rajasun is there an equivalent? Something that's compatible with both ubuntu and windows...
[13:40] <wildman> hello there, anyone knows if there's a way to directly mount a local Netware partition under Ubuntu?
[13:41] <Rajasun> littlegreen: not that I'm aware of but there's always www.google.com/linux :P
[13:41] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Where is that file to configure ?
[13:41] <llutz> jiga111222: if you don't kknow that, use default installation
[13:41] <luNix> epinky, I have to look this over better, and try to figure out why sound are muted... since it didn't help
[13:41] <wildman> by directly mount I mean mount it like one mounts NTFS partitions, not connecting to a Netware server, but to access contents of a Netware disk partition directly
[13:41] <RanyAlbeg1> decora: http://codepad.org/rauDNxpx
[13:41] <jiga111222> llutz, space is not that much of an issue, but I thought that there might be some stuff I as a user may not need ever. like printing since i don't have one today.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  it has menu items to configure it.. or use the gnome-terminal  program and the gnome-terminal settings/menus  terminator uses embdeded gnome-terminals
[13:42] <plitter> decora: do i have to know what encoding it was?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> wildman: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/ncpmount.8.html
[13:42] <llutz> jiga111222: anyway, _you_ have to know what _you_ need/what not.
[13:42] <erry> um
[13:42] <erry> and
[13:42] <erry> i just changed a file
[13:42] <erry> but it doesnt seem to have changed
[13:43] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: I don't want to use gnome-terminal
[13:43] <littlegreen> Rajasun yeah... I think I'll check it out
[13:43] <RRockon> G'day
[13:43] <wildman> ActionParsnip: thx, but that's exactly what I don't need, I cannot start the Netware fileserver, I just have its disk
[13:43] <arand> erry: yes, it will check on reboot, that's the idea. Why the "nooo"?
[13:43] <epinky> luNix: did you add "/sbin/alsactl restore"  on "/etc/rc.local" before "exit 0" ?
[13:43] <jiga111222> llutz, where would i get education needed for that?
[13:43] <boomernang> jiga111222, there are plenty of guides on google to help you with a minimal cd install. If you don't feel comfortable mucking around, just use the default cd. It will be easier to figure out what you don't need though - as in everything else in life.
[13:43] <Rajasun> littlegreen: sorry that I can't be of more help to you
[13:43] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: terminator looks lighter
[13:43] <jiga111222> since i am new to linux
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  You are confused.. Terminator IS using gnome-terminal
[13:43] <luNix> epinky, I've been thinking about add "amixer set PMC unmute" someplace... don't know how smart that is, well
[13:43] <llutz> jiga111222: i guess the only education is expreience. nobody can tell you
[13:44] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: I want to make it transparent
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> wildman: you will need to know the servers name to connect to it
[13:44] <epinky> luNix: did you try "/sbin/alsactl restore"  before doing that?
[13:44] <luNix> epinky, hmm, I followed that strickly as he hade typed it
[13:44] <jiga111222> llutz, boomernang, Thanks!
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  then either set gnome-terminal tobe transparent, or explore the terminator  menus. terminator terminal will use the gnome-terminal settings  Play with the settings
[13:44] <epinky> luNix: on "/etc/rc.local" before "exit 0" ?
[13:44] <jiga111222> what is the today's status of new Kde in kubuntu?
[13:45] <decora> plitter: yes you have to know what encoding it was. what kind of file is it?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> wildman: or is the disk in a system yuo are booting ubuntu on and want access to the data?
[13:45] <GamerKnight> can anyone recoment any good tools for fixing analizing GPT boot sectors
[13:45] <wildman> ActionParsnip: I don't have the server, just its disk. Even if I put the server's NIC and disk on a different computer, I cannot start it, the NIC driver is not being loaded, so I cannot access the fileserver from the outside
[13:45] <ebbpp1> Decora: In Xorg.log: "Cannot locate a core keyboard device"
[13:45] <littlegreen> Rajasun could you tell me... how do I establish a connection when I have already installed and configured OpenVPN on Ubuntu9.10?
[13:45] <GamerKnight> as a good hex editor to see the raw data
[13:45] <GamerKnight> also a good hex editor to see the raw data
[13:45] <wildman> ActionParsnip: I want to connect the server's disk on this Ubuntu desktop and access the Netware partition data, directly, like if it was any other partition type (for example NTFS)
[13:45] <DexterLB> hi
[13:45] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Can't get options, right click >edit option from terminator, i haven't install gnome-terminal,sorry it's not ubuntu right now
[13:46] <arand> GamerKnight: xxd is always solid.
[13:46] <plitter> decora: its a tex file, i made it and my partner edited it in windows notepad and now it gives me an error when i try to latexpdf
[13:46] <decora> ebbpp1: try reconfiguring X using the uhm... $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  if you are running terminator.. then you are running gnome-terminal.. terminator is a front end to gnome-terminal. Unless they totally did somthing differently to it recently.
[13:46] <plitter> decora: actually its all the tex files in the project:P
[13:46] <wildman> I wonder if the ghost-like partition imaging tools do have the ability to read the files there and store 'em in a partition of different type...
[13:46] <luNix> epinky, added it now, guess I missed that, yes
[13:47] <decora> plitter: what error? it might just be the 'newlines' which you can strip with dos2unix  (apt-get install tofrodos)
[13:47] <carlos_> hello
[13:47] <luNix> epinky, brb
[13:47] <epinky> luNix: can you post results of "more /etc/rc.local" ?
[13:47] <decora> plitter: did your buddy use any non-ascii characters like french letters?
[13:47] <luNix> epinky, sure
[13:47] <epinky> luNix: use pastebin
[13:47] <DexterLB> there's no one in the colinux room so I'm asking here, as there have been people who know about colinux in this room, too
[13:47] <DexterLB> I have coLinux installed on the windoze xp pro in H:\coLinux instead of c:\coLinux. Apparently c:\coLinux is hardcoded in some file as the readme suggests, but I can't find which. TI'm starting coLinux with a .bat so I'm not using the conf file which is the only one I saw c:\ in...
[13:48] <rootalkin> este cineva care vorbeste limba romana ?
[13:48] <carlos_> hey guys i have a question, do you guys know a web developing program like Dreamweaver for ubuntu?
[13:48] <Pici> DexterLB: While there may be people here who know about colinux, its offtopic for this channel.  Please use the proper channel oer perhaps ##linux instead.
[13:48] <DexterLB> ok
[13:48] <decora> plitter: windows notepad probably saves in utf8 in modern windows. if you give me file i can try to detect encoding
[13:48] <plitter> decora: no, but we write in norwegian, and we got a tips to change to \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc}, but then it didnt take æøå
[13:48] <boscop> firefox keeps raising the window every three seconds or so. even when I minimize it!? why?
[13:48] <boscop> I had to stop the process
[13:48] <GamerKnight> arand: thanks i will look into it. do u have a link
[13:49] <decora> plitter: what is the exact command line you are feeding to your tex program?
[13:49] <ard1an> Is there any kind of free VPN on Ubuntu that can secure my trafic ?
[13:49] <DJones> !ro | rootalkin
[13:49] <Pici> !html | A few... carlos_
[13:49] <iceroot> is it possible to install a local *.deb with apt-get install instead of dpkg -i? i want to test something with depends and provides and only apt-get seems to know something like provides with virtual package
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> wildman: with the system booted if you run: sudo fdisk -l   you should see the partition and disk if it is detected
[13:50] <carlos_> thank you boty
[13:50] <arand> GamerKnight: xxd is part of coreutils, and is a simple hex viewer, just pipe input to it to view the hex.
[13:50] <Glowball> I installed KDE (with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop), but now the Kubuntu mouse is also used in GNOME. It seems like I can't reverse it, not with Appearence > Themes > Customise > Pointer, nor with gcursor...
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !find hex
[13:50] <OLEZ> cika
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !info ghex
[13:51] <luNix> epinky, http://pastebin.ca/1693908
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[13:51] <OLEZ> medan
[13:51] <arand> GamerKnight: for GPT specific stuff I no-know, though.
[13:51] <GamerKnight> arand: haha, i wondered why the terminal was hanging, when i typed it in
[13:51] <plitter> decora:  when it crash? its this line "TGF (Terrestrial Gamma ray Flash, eller gammaglimt fra jorden på norsk) er gammastråler som har " and it dont like æøå
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Glowball:  i was thinking mouse pointer changes need a lotout/back in to have tehm get used
[13:51] <decora> plitter: what command line are you using to feed to tex?
[13:51] <plitter> pdflatex
[13:51] <epinky> luNix: it seems ok to me :) , retry
[13:51] <decora> plitter: pdflatex myfile.tex ?
[13:52] <GamerKnight> arand: INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!, said xxd to jhonny 5
[13:52] <luNix> epinky, good, I'll be back
[13:52] <plitter> decora: yes
[13:52] <wildman> ActionParsnip: 5' plz I'll reboot the machine having the disk with Ubuntu's live CD
[13:52] <Glowball> Dr_Willis: Ah, damn. That's quite stupid actually.. But meh, thanks :)
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Glowball:  its a litation of the window manager i think. In KDE they can change on the fly. In gnome not.. (i maybe wrong)
[13:52] <MaXubuntu> im new using ubuntu and i like it bigg time compared to the 250 bucks  windows 7 ultimate
[13:53] <decora> plitter: i cant seem to get dcc workign with pidgin but maybe this will help http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/latexuf8.htm?ref=news.rdf
[13:53] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Mouse pointer theme? It isn't a WM thing, and it _is_ changeable on the fly.
[13:53] <arand> GamerKnight: like so: " cat /dev/random | xxd " (ctrl+c exits)
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  i recall kde and gnome being differnt. then again ive not used kde4 much. so i may be confused. ive even had it where different windows use different mouse pointers - I think the new windows started after the change used the newer ones.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  of course once ya mixx kde and gnome intothe match.. well....
[13:54] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Is it possible to have icons on fluxbox  like http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/PROGRAMY/PLD/pulpit.png ?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> grawity: thats wht i thought
[13:55] <erry> nvm
[13:55] <erry> reboot fixed it
[13:55] <indus> !wm
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  you need to use some tool to add icons to the desktop.
[13:55] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Which tool?
[13:55] <decora> plitter:  basically i would google around for utf8 and pdflatex ... many people ahve the same problem
[13:55] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I used to use a mix of GNOME and Xfce... in fact, GNOME's cursor theme changer worked even without any WM running at all.
[13:55] <GamerKnight> MaXubuntu: good for you, i think you will be very happy. the day i ch anged to linux is the month all my computer problem seem to just go away and i started to like computers again. i do say month. it was  a hard month but worth. things just make sense in linux even the errors. and there are more than enough helpfull people in here. i would not always recoment using the latest version of ubuntu though. the last release is usa
[13:55]  * Linux-IRC Dr_Willis is busy!
[13:56] <plitter> decora: when i used \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} it worked:)
[13:56] <plitter> thanks a lot:D
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  theres proberly a dozen ways.. depending on yoru needs. I used to use rox-filer and its pinboard feature for it.. pcmanfm has a similer feature. then theres other tools - check the repos
[13:56] <decora> plitter: n o problem. that will be $100
[13:56] <GamerKnight> arand: /dev/random dont tempt me i might just spend all day doing that. and see what comes out haha
[13:56] <plitter> decora: i'll write u a check;)
[13:57]  * Linux-IRC downloading netbeans
[13:57] <decora> they still have checks in norway?
[13:57] <decora> thought it was all electronic...
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> isnt it spelled cheques ?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> yeah it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque
[13:59] <plitter> decora: joking:p it is all electronic:)
[14:00] <GamerKnight> does anyone know why there are two words for 8bits "byte" and "octet"
[14:00] <decora> ActionParsnip: no its spelled 'check' here in america, the only place left that uses them
[14:01] <decora>  GamerKnight: because there are some systems that use 7-bit bytes but 'octet' comes from latin base of oct
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> decora: in america, yes
[14:01] <decora> which means 8 everywhere
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> decora: not everyone is from america though
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> GamerKnight: 4 bits is also a "word" or a "nibble"
[14:01] <GamerKnight> decora: nice one
[14:02] <_CommandeR_> Anyone has any issues with gnome-do ?
[14:02] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip: I forgot about nibble
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> decora: unless its calendar month but we can blame julius and augustus for that
[14:03] <GamerKnight> decora: 10points if u can name a system
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> decora: october used to be the 8th month but ceaser wanted a month named after him (July) and augustis wanted one too (august) which threw the rythmn out, december used to be the 10th month
[14:03] <llutz> ActionParsnip: don't blame them, they give us at least some day of so-called summer
[14:03] <decora> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> llutz: true, plus my birthdays in august ;)
[14:03] <decora> how many points do i get for using wikipedia?
[14:03] <cj> anybody know what might be causing this?
[14:03] <cj> http://pastebin.com/m5f416f06
[14:03] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip: it all makes sense now. october, the end is nigh!!!!!
[14:04] <cj> lsb_release failing
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> GamerKnight: stupid old romans with their egos
[14:04] <luNix> epinky, must be some conflict, I tryed login with Gnome/Openbox, instead of Openbox session, and was kicked back to login-screen, and then I tryed Openbox and sound was there...
[14:04] <jozefk> Jordan_U, you are here?
[14:05] <epinky> luNix: hmmm, Gnome worked before?
[14:05] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip: Come on. if i was ceaser. i would have named the time after me, dam its gamer oclock best be going home
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> *box FTW :)
[14:05]  * jozefk installed ubuntu last night for the first time after so many linux years behind and yes ubuntu is great! :)
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> luNix:  i found the openbox/gnome entry to be faulty. Not sure why openbox thinks its so special it needs to add an openbox/gnome entry
[14:06] <decora> cj:  thats pretty crazy... i would try reinstalling the package that lsb_release comes from
[14:06] <jozefk> hello Dr_Willis
[14:06] <jozefk> i see jordan isn't here
[14:06] <mattgyver> Everytime i click the conky window on my desktop in 9.10 it shuts down does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:06] <cj> decora: roger
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: once you get used to the OS you could branch out to other distributions to compare, maybe you'll like them more, or less
[14:06] <cj> decora: that didn't do it
[14:06] <jozefk> yeah i need to get used to ubuntu and gnome
[14:07] <luNix> epinky, gnome session works and have sound, open box session works but mute sound, gnome/openbox session gave me sound, but kicked me back to login
[14:07] <jozefk> but so far it's great
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: absolutely
[14:07] <cj> mattgyver: conky?  what shuts down?
[14:07] <mattgyver> cj conky closes
[14:08] <mattgyver> cj, never had that problem in 9.04 or any previous version.  Not quite sure why the heck its deciding do to it now
[14:08] <decora> cj: that is absolutely bizarre
[14:09] <decora> cj: http://tech.element77.com/2008/08/ubuntu-lsbrelease-nameerror-global-name.html
[14:09] <epinky> luNix: ok, then try this last thing "sudo chown root:root /var/lib/alsa/asound.state", maybe root permissions are mandatory for openbox
[14:10] <decora> cj: but in reality lsb_release shoudl have better error handling
[14:10] <jozefk> i'm just sad a bit i didn't start with ubuntu from the beginning
[14:10] <DASPRiD> what is the "mail" user usually used for on ubuntu server?
[14:10] <luNix> epinky, yeah, the last thing :) else I will start allover... maybe, or umute everytime :)
[14:11] <DjAngo23> In a text file i have de names of the programs i want to install. How can i without copy/pasting every programe name, do apt-get install ?
[14:11]  * luNix log off again
[14:11] <llutz> DjAngo23: sudo apt-get install $(<testfile.foo)
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> DjAngo23:  dependin on the file layout you could copy it to a script and put 'sudo apt-get install' at the front of each one. or check the !clone factoid examples
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> !clone | DjAngo23
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages
[14:13] <DjAngo23> That's clear...
[14:13] <DjAngo23> I'm al done, thanks
[14:14] <tigerrawrr> hi all i have a bit of an issue with my install of ubuntu 9.10 the latest version i made 2 mistakes that i want to make right if possible
[14:14] <decora> ogra! hows the planetarium?
[14:15] <tigerrawrr> 1. is that i installed ubuntu and now i have no access to my windows OS
[14:15] <tigerrawrr> and 2. from ubuntu i have no access to my files on my windows os i want to be able to do that as well
[14:16] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | tigerrawrr for 2. see
[14:16] <decora> tigerrawrr: unmmm... do us a favor and run sudo fdisk -l
[14:16] <tigerrawrr> what will that do
[14:16] <decora> it tells you what partitions are on your disk
[14:16] <GamerKnight> anyone have any idea what this is "33 c0 8e d0 bc 00 7c fb", i found it on the first byte of my hard disk
[14:17] <tigerrawrr> i have 3 partitions
[14:17] <GamerKnight> its not GPT OR MBR werid. i wasnt expecting this at all
[14:17] <decora> tigerrawrr: do any of them say NTFS
[14:17] <tigerrawrr> one second
[14:17] <decora> tigerrawrr: or Windows or Win or ...
[14:17] <preecher> i know this is a elementary question but i dont know it so im asking-what is the difference in "sudo" and gksudo"
[14:17] <ikonia> GamerKnight: looks like it could be an identifier
[14:17] <wildman> ActionParsnip: I may have found a possible workaround, if this possible workaround doesn't work, I'll come back to you for help, thx!
[14:18] <ranjan> can any body over here can tell help me i am having an problem in sending mail by using evolution i have tried to instead an image file with the mail instead of that it caries an black spot leaving behind the name of the file ... any help will be of great help ..thank s in advance
[14:18] <GamerKnight> ikonia: why do u say that?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> wildman: np man
[14:18] <llutz> preecher: gdsudo is used for gui-apps, which needs some special handlich (xauthority)
[14:18] <GamerKnight> ikonia: also explains why my system is not booting hahahah
[14:18] <llutz> handling*
[14:18] <preecher> llutz,  thx-)
[14:18] <ranjan> can any body over here can tell help me i am having an problem in sending mail by using evolution i have tried to instead an image file with the mail instead of that it caries an black spot leaving behind the name of the file ... any help will be of great help ..thank s in advance
[14:18] <ikonia> GamerKnight: jus looks like an identifying string
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> preecher: sudo doesnt set up the environment for X based apps and can cause ownership corruption
[14:19] <GamerKnight> dotblank: normaly though. you would see "45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54" for a gpt drive though right. it would never be somthing else?
[14:19] <ranjan> can any body over here can tell help me i am having an problem in sending mail by using evolution i have tried to instead an image file with the mail instead of that it caries an black spot leaving behind the name of the file ... any help will be of great help ..thank s in advance
[14:19] <preecher> ActionParsnip, thx
[14:19] <tigerrawrr> i have no idea decora here is the paste bin of it http://pastebin.com/m2de1ca0c
[14:19] <arand> preecher: llutz: should be "gksudo" by the way
[14:20] <preecher> and what is "nautilus"
[14:20] <llutz> arand: just seen that typo, sry
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:20] <decora> tigerrawrr: fdisk -l not -i
[14:20] <preecher> arand, thx
[14:20] <tigerrawrr> L
[14:20]  * llutz asks santa to bring  a new keyboard
[14:21] <tigerrawrr> there is one nfts
[14:21] <mahngiel> mornin y'all. i uninstalled metacity after installing Icewm win mgr. after reboot, i had NO win mgr, just the terminal
[14:22] <mahngiel> all the data pkgs were there in synaptic, but it obviously wasn't working... need a few tips
[14:22] <preecher> other day i couldnt add a file to a file becase it say i no have privledge and someone toled me type in gksudo nautilus and it worked so im wanta kno what is nautilus
[14:22] <decora> try reinstalling icewm
[14:22] <llutz> preecher: gnome filemanager
[14:22] <mahngiel> decora: problem is, no wifi
[14:22] <decora> preeher; nautilus is the 'file browser'
[14:23] <preecher> llutz,  oh ok
[14:23] <luNix> epinky, well... after chown and I log out, sound are unmuted then I log back in, but if I restart computer it's gone, so, thanks anyway
[14:23] <decora> mahngiel: download the .debs for icewm, transfer over on usb stick,, install with dpkg -i
[14:23] <jozefk> gksudo? why not chnage the file permissions?
[14:23] <jozefk> change
[14:23] <mahngiel> decora: *muah* thank you
[14:23] <decora> mahngiel: apt-get install --download-only icewm ; ls /var/cache/apt/archives (or somerhing)
[14:23] <om26er_> jozefk: not appropriate
[14:23] <br3n> i did upgrades the last 2 times and ended up with games missing and now submenus that i thought had lost  them
[14:24] <llutz> jozefk: not a good idea if system-files
[14:24] <preecher> ive had ubuntu for a year now but i always jus ignored what i dint understand until i find this irc channel so now i ask and make notes--thanks all
[14:24] <om26er_> preecher: spread ubuntu
[14:24] <TopKatz_> hello
[14:24] <decora> jozefk: yeah first thing i do on any new system is chmod -R ugo*rwx  /    ... i dont believe in all this 'secrecy' stuff
[14:24] <jozefk> sure. but he didn't say what kind of files he is editing. anyway if he is root he can do something wrong if playing with system files
[14:25] <om26er_> !test
[14:25] <eeriku> hi
[14:25] <eeriku> alive
[14:25] <eeriku> ?
[14:25] <br3n> but one particilar game is kpoker and it has been so long i am not sure what i d/l and tried to install but it does show a directory  for me  i amso cannot use synaptic to dl it
[14:25] <jozefk> i did something similar with my external HDD :)
[14:26] <elfranne> it is possible to rsync --files-from=files.list but not files, whole folders ?
[14:26] <epinky> luNix: then with "chown $USER" is working better?
[14:26] <decora> br3n: is it in 'kdegames'?
[14:27] <TopKatz_> Im having a hard time with a java path.  I I run echo $JDK_HOME from terminal I get /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun1.6.0.16,  However if I try and run my app (IDEA) it says that its trying to use jdk 1.7.  If I run it from the terminal like so ~/idea-9952/bin/idea.sh it works, but running ti froma  script I can see the JDK home changes to 1.7.  I have checked my profiels and bash but Im not seeing were I had set that.  Is there a trick to fin
[14:27] <TopKatz_> d were Im setting the path to the bad jdk?
[14:27] <decora> how do i get pidgen to STFU with the beeping?
[14:27] <ikonia> decora: you need to control your language
[14:27] <om26er_> !language | decora
[14:27] <Feldegast> decora it is in kdegames (kde3 version)
[14:27] <br3n> decora yes but when i installed kdegames it didnt give me kpoker
[14:27] <om26er_> decora: go to preferences
[14:28] <mahngiel> what's the terminal command for 'software sorces'?
[14:28] <decora> ikonia: yes mother
[14:28] <om26er_> mahngiel: software-properties-gtk
[14:28] <mahngiel> ty
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> !info kpoker
[14:29] <Feldegast> kpoker exists if you add the ppa for kde3
[14:29] <Feldegast> but itself has dependancy issues
[14:29] <TopKatz_> is there a trick to see were my jdk home is set?
[14:30] <Jigal> hello i am quite new to ubuntu.  How can i give myself as user rights to create files in /var/www ?
[14:30] <ikonia> TopKatz_: echo $JAVA_HOME
[14:30] <phisher1> TopKatz_: echo $JAVA_HOME
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> br3n: https://launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers/+archive/ppa
[14:30] <TopKatz_> add your self to the www-data groupe
[14:30] <TopKatz_> ikonia - I see what its set to, but need to see were it is set
[14:31] <ppp> I have an icon, who starts up with it's commando 'xchat', now I would like it if the commando where 'LANG=en xchat', but changing this within the properties gives an error, how do I do this?
[14:31] <TopKatz_> an app keeps trying to use one that is not comming back from my echo
[14:31] <ikonia> TopKatz_: normally in your .profile, .bash_profile or .bashrc depending on how your system is setup
[14:31] <br3n> ty ActionParsnip
[14:31] <TopKatz_> ikonia in my user home
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ppp: could make an alias and run that
[14:32] <ikonia> TopKatz_: normally yes
[14:33] <ard1an> I need a Free VPN for Ubuntu  ?
[14:33] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Hello, i'm on enlightenment , is there any shorcut key to go to the desktop ? clicking the minimize key .............
[14:33] <TopKatz_> Im not seeing were my jdk_home is gettgin set to 1.7
[14:33] <TopKatz_> everything is saying 1.6
[14:33] <luNix> epinky, it said missing operand, som somethings is missing, I tried with "sudo chown $USER" to, the same
[14:33] <Guest18657> hello all. I am using Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS. It seems it does not have php_mbstring extension!! Can someone clarify this please???
[14:33] <Feldegast> ard1an have you tried openvpn?
[14:33] <ppp> ActionParsnip: where do I place that alias?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  check the docs for enlightenment
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ppp: ~/.bashrc
[14:34] <elfranne> it is possible to rsync --files-from=files.list but not files, whole folders ?
[14:34] <ard1an> No Feldegast  but it seems to be hard ?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ppp: or you an make a script in /usr/bin to run the commands and call that from the launcher
[14:34] <Feldegast> ard1an once set up it works wekk, getting the settings right can be tricky
[14:34] <decora> elfranne: yrs its possible
[14:35] <Feldegast> *well
[14:35] <Guest18657> I am using ubuntu server 6.06 LTS. It seems it does not have php_mbstring extension for PHP. Can someone clarify this please???
[14:35] <ppp> ActionParsnip: I prefer an alias, I'll try that out and let you know if it worked :-)
[14:35] <Jigal> hello i am quite new to ubuntu. How can i give myself as user rights to create files in /var/www ?
[14:35] <epinky> luNix: sudo chown $USER /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[14:35] <Zhane> how to create a installer for e customized ubuntu that im using?
[14:35] <ard1an> Feldegast, yes the setup is hard didnt see any tutorial
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: add yourself to the www group I believe
[14:36] <decora> jigal: add yourself to the www group probably
[14:36] <psilo> !wiki porch monkey
[14:36] <erUSUL> !remaster | Zhane
[14:36] <Jigal> how can i do dat command line decora/ actionpernship?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: if you run: ls -a /var/www you should see the group owner (2nd name, 1st name is the user owner)
[14:36] <Guest18657> I am using ubuntu server 6.06 LTS. It seems it does not have php_mbstring extension for PHP. Can someone clarify this please???
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: is the group owner www?
[14:37]  * luNix leaves again
[14:37] <Guest18657> I am using ubuntu server 6.06 LTS. It seems it does not have php_mbstring extension for PHP. Can someone clarify this please???
[14:37] <Jigal> the owner is root
[14:37] <Feldegast> ard1an i have the same issue
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: for both?
[14:37] <elfranne> decora : how ?
[14:37] <Jigal> ls -la /var and when i look at www i see root root
[14:38] <erUSUL> Guest18657: clarify ? not many people is running 6.06 as of today (three years old) so is hard to verify anything concerning dapper
[14:38] <erUSUL> !dapper
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: you could make a new group and put yourself and root in the group, then give group access to the folder
[14:39] <Jigal> actionParsnip can you tell me how to do this?
[14:39] <Guest18657> !upgrade
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: sudo groupadd www-full-access; sudo useradd -G www-full-access root; sudo useradd -G www-full-access $USER; sudo chown -R :www-full-access /var/www
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: should do it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: your username should now have access, you may need to chmod a little but test to see what you get now
[14:41] <om26er> where can i download 64-bit flash plugin?
[14:42] <llutz> Jigal: ActionParsnip needs re-login
[14:42] <om26er> only .so file
[14:42] <ikonia> om26er: is there a problem using the 32bit package ?
[14:42] <elfranne> decora : how ?
[14:42] <om26er> ikonia, 32bit package will work on 64-bit?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> om26er: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[14:42] <Guest95399> cpu temperature in bios is 80 degree and i used $sensors its giving "temp1:  +40.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)"  which 1 is correct?
[14:42] <ikonia> om26er: if you install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" a little magic will happen to allow it to work fine
[14:43] <TopKatz_> if I run my java app from a terminal it works,  if I run it froma  script it tries to use the wrong jdk
[14:43] <om26er> ikonia, flash is not registering clicks.!
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> om26er: 32bit one runs via nspluginwrapper and will update with the packages, if you use the 64bit one you will need to manually upgrade but it doesnt need the wrapper
[14:43] <preecher> hey is they a place i can see all the linux commands for terminal?"
[14:43] <ikonia> om26er: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[14:43] <ikonia> preecher: no, they are spread out across different directories and shells
[14:44] <om26er> ikonia, installed
[14:44] <emachnic_> preecher just google it
[14:44] <xover> anyone here used openoffice?
[14:44] <Shadowww> Hey guys, what would be best torrent client for ubuntu?
[14:44] <preecher> ok thax all
[14:44] <sipior> preecher: try hitting "tab"
[14:44] <xover> my bullet points are changing sizes when i open .doc files
[14:44] <Pici> preecher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal should get you started.
[14:44] <llutz> !best | Shadowww
[14:44] <om26er> ikonia, now?
[14:44] <emachnic_> Shadoww, transmission works pretty well
[14:44] <emachnic_> Assuming you don't need a lot of functionality
[14:45] <Shadowww> emachnic_, not for me, can't reach stable 12.5MB/s upload with it
[14:45] <ppp> ActionParsnip: had to create a small script in /usr/bin, xchat-en, and call that. Seems alias does not work within gnome, ach well
[14:45] <Shadowww> but rTorrent's interface is too hard for me :/
[14:45] <ikonia> om26er: what site is failing
[14:45] <Jigal> actionparsnip when i go to the the www folder i cant add a file but in a subfolder of www i can add a file
[14:45] <om26er> ikonia, any flash based. i can play but cannot use the flash controls
[14:45] <IdleOne> !torrent | Shadowww
[14:45] <llutz> Jigal: ls -ld /var/www
[14:45] <ikonia> om26er: can you give me an example url please
[14:46] <om26er> ikonia, youtube.com
[14:46] <d_b> hi
[14:46] <ikonia> om26er: what browser ?
[14:46] <mattgyver> Jigal, that sounds like you dont have proper permissions in that directory.
[14:46] <Shadowww> IdleOne, that's all? pretty sad :( isn't there some easy to use GUI for rTorrent? cause it's only client that gives me stable 12.5MB/s upload.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: ok then run: sudo chmod -R g+w /var/www
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> I Thought rtorrent had a web interfacce..
[14:47] <om26er> ikonia, firefox 3.5.5 or chromium 4.0.260
[14:47] <Jigal> how can i do that becaus its owner is www-full-access and i am member of that group
[14:47] <erUSUL> om26er: happens to me as well. dunno how to fix it though. ubuntu kk 64 bits flash 10 firefox or chromium nvidia drivers
[14:47] <ikonia> om26er: you may have no bettwe luck with the 64bit plugin
[14:47] <Shadowww> Dr_Willis, cant seem to find any mentions of web interface in man rtorrent
[14:47] <Shadowww> :3
[14:47] <d_b> anyone? I Would like to have a mail service on my server. Any server you recommendmeto look at?
[14:47] <om26er> erUSUL, appens to me as well. dunno how to fix it tho
[14:47] <ikonia> om26er: flash is closed source and on some machines it just doens't work well, a good fix is to often close all the browsers and try again as one problem seems related to memory allocations
[14:48] <ikonia> d_b: on a home broadband/cable line ?
[14:48] <om26er> erUSUL, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407
[14:48] <erUSUL> om26er: tyvm
[14:48] <om26er> i faced it on 32-bit but now its fixed
[14:48] <d_b> ikonia: a normal mail service
[14:49] <Jigal> actionparsnip still cant do it
[14:49] <ikonia> d_b: on a home broadband/cable line ?
[14:49] <d_b> :)
[14:49] <d_b> on the wan
[14:49] <mattgyver> Jigal, try a chmod 775 on the directory name.
[14:49] <llutz> Jigal: ls -ld /var/www
[14:49] <d_b> ikonia: not at home
[14:49] <ikonia> d_b: what wan ?
[14:49] <om26er> but exist on 64-bit. i installed 64-bit today on another machine
[14:50] <d_b> ikonia: Wide Area Network
[14:50] <TopKatz_> found it
[14:50] <brianherman> ikonia: how did you make that backwards b?
[14:50] <TopKatz_> it was in enviorment
[14:50] <TopKatz_> : /
[14:50] <luNix> epinky, I put "/sbin/alsactl restore" in the autostart.rc for Openbox instead, and got sound, call it a shortcut :)
[14:50] <Shwack|Away> Why do I have to refresh my windows someties - I just created a .wav file and saved it to desktop, and had to open up desktop form Places and press "Refresh" before anything showed up
[14:50] <ikonia> d_b: first thing to do is contact your network administrator to find out what what the policy is for mail servers as they can cause quite a lot of problems for Networks if they are not setup right
[14:50] <Jigal> llutz and then?
[14:50] <ikonia> brianherman: it's a d
[14:50] <llutz> Jigal: paste output
[14:50] <brianherman> OH SHIT
[14:50] <brianherman> sorry
[14:50] <ikonia> d_b: I know what a WAN IS, but what WAN are you on, a school lan
[14:50] <epinky> !yay | luNix
[14:50] <ikonia> brianherman: control your language please
[14:51] <d_b> ikonia: ok got it.  i got a dedicated server which i want to install a simple mail service :P
[14:51] <ikonia> d_b: contact your network administrators
[14:51] <Jigal> root and www-full-access drwxrwxr-x
[14:51] <Shwack|Away> Why do I have to refresh my windows someties - I just created a .wav file and saved it to desktop, and had to open up desktop form Places and press "Refresh" before anything showed up
[14:51] <ikonia> d_b: find out the policies, as that will dictate what you can/can't do
[14:52] <epinky> om26er: do you mean this wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz?
[14:52] <Shwack|Away> lol konversation sucks
[14:52] <luNix> epinky, yep, thanks for all help
[14:52] <d_b> ikonia: i got a machineatmy disposal..
[14:52] <om26er> epinky, yes. but ActionParsnip also gave me a link
[14:52] <Shwack|Away> ActionParsnip is the man
[14:53] <mattgyver> Jigal, check to verify your part of the www-full-access group by typing; id <username>
[14:53] <jimbobimbo> oh damn I think my ubuntu got a virus
[14:53] <jimbobimbo> what do I do?
[14:53] <ikonia> d_b: yes, but as I said talk to your network administrators to find out the restrications as that will dictate what you can and can't use
[14:53] <luNix> *coffee break*
[14:53] <epinky> luNix: you're welcome, however all the credit is yours XD , nice trick!
[14:53] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: why do you think it has a virus ?
[14:53] <Guest95399>  cpu temperature in bios is 80 degree and i used $sensors its giving "temp1:  +40.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)"  which 1 is correct?
[14:53] <jimbobimbo> I got files disappearing
[14:53] <jimbobimbo> and the screen is flickering
[14:53] <llutz> Guest95399: if in doubt, bios
[14:53] <Guest95399> how to increase the cpu fan speed?
[14:53] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: define file dissapearing
[14:54] <d_b> ikonia: ok thank you. i will ask the server vendor
[14:54] <jimbobimbo> I mean I had a file on my desktop
[14:54] <jimbobimbo> I rebooted
[14:54] <Shwack|Away> It's comin right for us!
[14:54] <jimbobimbo> and it vanished now
[14:54] <ikonia> d_b: good idea
[14:54] <om26er> what directory is for the flash /usr/lib/what?
[14:54] <Jigal> i don\t see the www-full-access group to be in my is username
[14:54] <Jigal> how can i add it ?\
[14:54] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: that doesn't mean a virus
[14:54] <llutz> Jigal: thats why i said, need re-login
[14:54] <ikonia> Jigal: usermod
[14:54] <Jigal> i did relogin
[14:55] <jimbobimbo> ikonia what can it be then?
[14:55] <jozefk> virus? people experiencing viruses on linux?
[14:55] <llutz> Jigal: then you haven't done the usermod-part
[14:55] <mattgyver> Jigal, i believe its; sudo usermod -a www-full-access <username> (write down the output of your previous ID just incase that wipes everything out you can add it)
[14:55] <jozefk> rootkits maybe
[14:55] <Jigal> you mean the gid
[14:55] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: you may have deleted it, disk corruption, anything really
[14:55] <Jigal> ??
[14:55] <jimbobimbo> I just rebooted the computer
[14:56] <mattgyver> Jigal, yeah you might need to use the GID because it contains - im not sure
[14:56] <llutz> Jigal: sudo adduser <you> www-full-access
[14:56] <jimbobimbo> it was there yesterday
[14:56] <jimbobimbo> so
[14:56] <jimbobimbo> what can that be?
[14:56] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: you deleted it by accident, disk corruption etc, a whole list of reasons
[14:56] <mattgyver> llutz, never done it that way, will that append as well?
[14:56] <jozefk> maybe you rename it :)
[14:56] <llutz> mattgyver: sure
[14:56] <mattgyver> llutz, awesome thats much easier to remember lol
[14:56] <jozefk> or it's hidden
[14:56] <llutz> Jigal: re-login after it
[14:57] <hedkandi> hi
[14:57] <jimbobimbo> so why can't it be a virus?
[14:57] <jimbobimbo> I'm pretty sure it is one
[14:57] <hedkandi> how do you disable the stupid drum-roll at the login screen?
[14:57] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: it's very unlikly
[14:57] <Paul4> hello, everytime I install the ati drivers (with Envy or with the driverfinder of ubuntu) my graphic card start to be crap.  Movies start to shock and so on. anyone knows how to fix this? I've got an ati HD 2600XT, atholon x2 4000 with 1gb ddr2 800
[14:57] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: why are you "sure" it's one]
[14:57] <Paul4> thnxx!
[14:57] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: what makes you sure ?
[14:57] <epaphus> Hello, what is the best way to install skype in ubuntu?
[14:58] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: no - 1 file has dissapeared
[14:58] <mattgyver> jimbobimbo, how many drives are you using?  are any of the dissapearing files located on a different drive?
[14:58] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: and I've given 2 other possible reasons for that
[14:58] <Jigal> it works
[14:58] <Jigal> thank you
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> Jerusalem420:  samba, or nfs. depending on your needs.. or sshfs is another way
[14:58] <jimbobimbo> I didnt delete it, I already said that
[14:58] <huckelberry> hey, can anyone please recommend an nvidia video card that is super supported? in the $100~$200 range
[14:58] <Shwack|Away> i know somebody in this room has a simple fix for windows needing to be refreshed
[14:59] <jimbobimbo> and disk corruption, how do I check that?
[14:59] <Jigal>  // offtopic question how can i get my password to logon to irc
[14:59] <Alan502> I have searched on the internet, about how to run *.i386 files. Apparently i have to right click the file an then mark it as executable. I have already done this but my application still doesnt work. Every time  i click it it prompts me to choose an application to open with. Please help!
[14:59] <Alan502> Hi by the way :)
[14:59] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: you don't "know" you deleted it, it could also be diskcorruption, or a file system error,
[14:59]  * jozefk bye for now. time to go home :)
[14:59] <Paul4> Hello, everytime I install the ati drivers (with Envy or with the driverfinder of ubuntu) my graphic card start to be crap.  Movies start to shock and so on. anyone knows how to fix this? I've got an ati HD 2600XT, atholon x2 4000 with 1gb ddr2 800. Thanx!
[14:59] <Jerusalem420> dr_willis can u point me to a FAQ?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Alan502:  try running them from the shell?  ive never seen a .i386 extension used on a executable. oris it a shell script?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Jigal: join #freenode   they can send you an email to reset your password
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> !nfs > Jerusalem420
[15:00] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: stating a virus and saying your sure it is with no evidence makes it very hard to progress, more so as virus are very rare in linux
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !samba  > Jerusalem420
[15:00] <Alan502> Jigal, if you are using xchat, you can configure it to automatically log your NickServ password
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !sshfs  > Jerusalem420
[15:00] <Jigal> i know but i also sometimes want to login from a different pc
[15:00] <jimbobimbo> so such a file system error is more likely?
[15:01] <wagner> what the matter
[15:01] <jimbobimbo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[15:01] <jimbobimbo> I think I got that
[15:01] <Alan502> Dr_Willis, it is suppossed to be a Urban Terror executable. The Urban Terror documentation says to run it as an executable. I have also tried to open the file with konsole and akonadi but i still get nothing :(
[15:01] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: why do you think that ?
[15:01] <jimbobimbo> cause my files disappear, I just noticed another file vanished
[15:02] <om26er> erUSUL, if using chromium: copying libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins working!
[15:02] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: stop now - you're changing your story
[15:02] <jimbobimbo> what story
[15:02] <jimbobimbo> I just check my home folder
[15:02] <erUSUL> om26er: ok; ty :)
[15:02] <rhorse> Alan502: have you tried sh file.1386?
[15:02] <jimbobimbo> there was a opendocument writer text file yesterday
[15:02] <jimbobimbo> I wanted to work with it
[15:02] <jimbobimbo> and it's gone
[15:03] <ikonia> jimbobimbo: 1.) that bug doesn't say files dissapear 2.) you where certain it was a virus 3.) you where in here as another nick earlier
[15:03] <arand> Alan502: Dr_Willis it's normally a binary, so " chmod +x filename.i386 " then  " ./filename.i386 " n terminal should do
[15:04] <luNix> haha
[15:04] <luNix> ikonia, good work
[15:04] <arand> Alan502: that'd be " ./ioUrbanTerror.i386 " in this case.
[15:04] <MenZa> how do I run a cronjob as root? sudo crontab -e will suffice?
[15:04] <Rajasun> hmmm someone on a FUD mission?
[15:05] <om26er> !flash
[15:08] <klown> I have a multiple card reader internal device that I had working in windows.  I cannot find the CD for it, but newegg (where i bought it) says its linux compatible.  I cannot find any linux drivers or any information in a search.  how can i get this device working in 9.10?
[15:08] <MenZa> klown: Chances are, you plug it in, it works.
[15:08] <MenZa> No installation or configuration required.
[15:08] <throughnothing> Is there a way to list all the devices connected to my sata controller with vendor info and model number and all of that?
[15:09] <iceroot> how to see my usb-devices connected to the system?
[15:09] <llutz> iceroot: lsusb
[15:09] <iceroot> llutz: thx
[15:10] <littlegreen> klown how do you know it doesn't work? Have you tried pluging in a card?
[15:10] <Alan502> rhorse, i have tried to sh the file but apparently it is not a sh script
[15:10] <pestilence> is there a way to make network manager always have an interface up
[15:11] <pestilence> unchecking the "connect automatically" doesn't seem to make it ignore the cable being unplugged
[15:11] <Alan502> arand, i chmod the filename.i386 but not ./  i think that would, work gonna try it...
[15:11] <Guest95399> how to cleanup /var/log files? its 25 gb on a fresh installation and its because of high cpu temperature
[15:11] <arand> Alan502: you need to use ./ for execution it, but not for chmodding
[15:11] <mcscruff> Alan502, bash ./filename
[15:12] <Alan502> arand, mcscruff , actually there are not such ./ directories, maybe corrupted file?
[15:12] <arand> mcscruff: no, doesn't work in this case.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest95399: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287335
[15:12] <hedkandi> how do you disable the stupid drum-roll at the login screen in karmic? I don't think you can any longer
[15:13] <glassresistor> um gconfig-editor
[15:13] <G__> Hello
[15:13] <G__> Hello
[15:13] <glassresistor> hedkandi: use gconf-editor
[15:13] <arand> Alan502: ./ is just short for "current directory".
[15:13] <mcscruff> hi
[15:13] <hedkandi> exciting!
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> hedkandi: can uninstall ubuntu-sounds package and ALL the stupid sounds will vanish
[15:13] <mcscruff> arand, corrupt then?
[15:13] <hedkandi> interesting
[15:13] <MenZa> arand: rather, . is short for current directory, where as / indicates a file in said directory :)
[15:13] <ChogyDan> anyone know anything about BFS?  If I find a bug testing with BFS, is it a bug with linux, an improvement with BFS, or a bug with the application?
[15:14] <hedkandi> There should be an option in the gui for Administration - login
[15:14] <G__> How do ya download off uttube
[15:14] <mcscruff> G__, you could try the firefox extension downloadhelper
[15:14] <hedkandi> glassresistor, do you know what the key is?
[15:14] <Alan502> arand, i have already done that, but the file still keeps me prompting to choose a program to open with: alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror$ sudo chmod +x ./ioUrbanTerror.i386
[15:14] <Alan502> [sudo] password for alan:
[15:14] <Alan502> alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror$
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !info youtube-dl | g__
[15:15] <glassresistor> so i managed to do two dumb things broke my compiz installing ecomorph for e17 and messed up my sound, the sound problem only occurs in my user account works fine in a new account, compiz doesn't work any accounts
[15:15] <hedkandi> glassresistor, it won't be in gconf because all options there are local to a user
[15:15] <arand> Alan502: do not use sudo here.
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> mcscruff: not everyone uses firefox dude
[15:15] <hedkandi> it's going to be a system-wide option they've cleverly managed to hide
[15:16] <glassresistor> i think the compiz error is in gconf but i deleted the /apps/compiz folder but its still in the editor when i go to look
[15:16] <hedkandi> I wonder if I can find it on an old install.
[15:16] <om26er__> how to set nautilus centralized to the screen when opened
[15:16] <mcscruff> ActionParsnip, as it is the default browser in ubuntu, i suggested that
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> mcscruff: given but youtube-dl is browser independant ;)
[15:17] <isolat3dsh33p> i got this error: "W: GPG error: http://parker1.co.uk feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6D17A3829B1DB022". What does it means?
[15:17] <mcscruff> ActionParsnip, Im using Chromium at the moment, very impressed
[15:17] <jcrawford> guys my flash stopped working, what can i do to get it back?
[15:17] <jcrawford> seems that after running an update this morning it quit working properly sometimes showing other times not
[15:17] <ChogyDan> jcrawford: how did that happen?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you can set it with a certain geometry with -g but i am unsure of the amount of control or syntax you would use
[15:17] <glassresistor> hedkandi: i broke the sound trying to get my mic input to work but I undid all the changes i made to also-conf and the problem still exists alsamixer looks good as well
[15:17] <Alan502> arand, nope, i still get a dialog asking me for a application to open with; do i need something to open those type of executables (uploading screenshot of the dialog im getting)
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> mcscruff: me too, its badass, I like feeling the love every 10pm when i get the nightly :D
[15:18] <glassresistor> hedkandi: alsa-config*
[15:18] <hedkandi> glassresistor, I don't see the connection?
[15:19] <arand> Alan502: run this command from terminal: ~/Documents/My\ Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386
[15:19] <brianherman> how do i push a bunch of directories through git
[15:19] <glassresistor> jcrawford: uninstall flash with apt then dl it from adobe, its currently broken in karmic
[15:19] <mcscruff> ActionParsnip, im not updating that often, as it is stable at the moment i will leave it a week or 2
[15:19] <jcrawford> ok thanks glassresistor
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, FF gives the option of finding the flash swf files for copying from the /tmp file while running a video after it has buffered to the end while still playing . I've copied a few using that method
[15:19] <Alan502> arand, bash: /home/alan/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386: Permission denied
[15:20] <Alan502> arand, http://imgur.com/KAuvP.png
[15:20] <c3l> how do I use the 'locate' command to find files that are in mounted disks (sshfs)?
[15:20] <Ghoster> Can someone help me out I'm now trying to get all 3 19" syncmaster screens to work.. I have 2 nvidia cards but still can't get the third one to activate...
[15:20] <Alan502> arand, alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror$ chmod +x ./ioUrbanTerror.i386
[15:20] <Alan502> alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror$ ~/Documents/My\ Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386
[15:20] <Alan502> bash: /home/alan/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386: Permission denied
[15:20] <Alan502> alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror$
[15:20] <FloodBot4> Alan502: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <Alan502> sorry FloodBot4 hehe
[15:21] <jcrawford> glassresistor, should i download the deb?
[15:21] <jcrawford> or rpm?
[15:21] <arand> Alan502: hmm, ok, it seems like you've set that whole folder to only-root permissions.
[15:22] <glassresistor> jcrawford: the deb
[15:22] <Alan502> arand, it seem that althought i have already applied chmod to the file i have not full access to it
[15:22] <wubuntu> Is there a site to get more panel stuff for Ubuntu ?
[15:22] <ChogyDan> glassresistor: how is flash broken in karmic?  Is it just not working?
[15:22] <om26er__> where does firefox looks for libflashplayer.so?
[15:22] <Alan502> arand, well i think that is already a clue, thanks a lot for your help. I will google about how to change its permisions. Thanks for your help!
[15:23] <glassresistor> hedkandi: there isn't a connection between the sound and compositor but i need to fix both
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> om26er__: you can put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[15:23] <jcrawford> glassresistor, gah they only have i386 versions on adobe
[15:23] <jcrawford> i am on 64bit
[15:23] <arand> Alan502: could you pastebin the output of " ls -l " from that U-T directory?
[15:23] <mcscruff> :(
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> Alan502:  you  may want to put it somewhere with no spaces in the paths also
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> om26er__: or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins   (i think)
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> Alan502:  or 'cd' to where the binary is at.
[15:23] <glassresistor> jcrawford: they have an alpha 64-bit if you look but 32- bit is fine
[15:23] <glassresistor> jcrawford: im 64 and use 32
[15:24] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Is there anything like rox-desktop?
[15:24] <jcrawford> glassresistor, it tells me wrong architecture when i try to install the i386 version
[15:24] <wessst> hi
[15:24] <boomernang> c3l, man updatedb
[15:24] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[15:24] <glassresistor> jcrawford: do you have ia32 installed?
[15:24] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: From kdm , can't option to login into rox-desktop
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  install a window managter.. instsall rox-filer.. run rox-filer with the proper options.. done..
[15:24] <TopKatz> anyone use ubuntu as a server?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> om26er__: the plugins folder in your home dir doesnt exist but is part of the folders wich firefox scans for plugins
[15:24] <Alan502> arand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/331765/v
[15:24] <om26er__> ActionParsnip, thanx. and is there a directory where other browsers and firefox looks for flashplugin
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  make a script that runs whatever wm you want, and rox-filer with the proper optons
[15:24] <jcrawford> glassresistor, not sure
[15:24] <glassresistor> jcrawford: you can also just dl the so file and stick it in your plugins folder
[15:24] <c3l> boomernang, it doesn't  seem to inclued files and folders that are located in /mnt
[15:24] <Alan502> arand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/331765/   <--- this one sorry
[15:25] <Infin1ty> While changing screen resolutions (in a virtualmachine) it seems as the icons on the desktop do not adjusts themself as they should be, if i work on 1440x900 and then change to 1024x768 then i have missing icons out of the screen range, is there anything i can tell gnome to auto adjust it?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> om26er__: not sure, I always just symlink :D
[15:25] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Is rox-file the rox file manager , i installed rox,rox-lib,roxterm,fluxbox
[15:25] <jcrawford> yes i have ia32 installed
[15:25] <Alan502> Dr_Willis, i have cd to the directory where the binary is at, chmod it but still i am not allowed to access it apparently
[15:25] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: If i type rox, file manager appears
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> TopKatz: i do
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> TopKatz: also gots a gentoo server too
[15:26] <TopKatz> the server editon or the regular?
[15:26] <luomo> I can't connect to my Wireless network using ubuntu 9.10. Help!
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> TopKatz: regular, but the only difference is an x server and DE
[15:26] <jcrawford> in gDebi i get this and the install button is not enabled: Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[15:26] <TopKatz> Im thinking of using regular also as a server
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  read the docs for rox filer it has several options to start a pinboard, (desktop) or Panel.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> luomo: run: sudo lshw -C network    read the product line, you can then use that in websearches for guides
[15:27] <jcrawford> glassresistor, where can i get the so and where is the plugins directory, or do you mean plugin directory for each browser?
[15:27] <duffydack> does fat16 use less room than fat32, on a newly formatted partition.
[15:27] <boomernang> c3l, you did updatedb as root?
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> duffydack:  not that ive ever noticed.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> TopKatz: its fine, you just use the ram to run the graphical environment
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> duffydack:  if it does. it will proberly not be that much.
[15:27] <c3l> boomernang, no, should I?
[15:28] <schwezzy> how would I go about setting up my internet connection as 'shared' so I could plug a crossover into the ethernet port for another machine
[15:28] <boomernang> c3l, yes
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: i suggest you read the limits table here ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  last  i tried the 'pinboard' feature of 'rox' was not working right for me on ubuntu. So with rox. you can do panels, and launch the file manager. but no icons on the desktop with it.
[15:28] <c3l> boomernang, well now I did sudo updatedb, still nothing
[15:28] <llutz> !ics | schwezzy
[15:28] <c3l> boomernang, it only shows some stuff in /var/temp etc
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> TopKatz: also server will most likely have  less services running, making it more secure
[15:29] <schwezzy> thx
[15:29] <luomo> ActionParsnip:My network card is dirty. Live CD of Ubuntu 9.10 showing proprietary driver after which my issue is resolved but when i search these driver in System>Hardware Drivers I cant get them and my issue is not resolved. help!
[15:29] <c3l> boomernang, or Ill just use 'find' =)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> luomo: well boot to liveCD again and take note of what is installed, you can tell the system to show you the terminal and what is happening
[15:31] <jcrawford> anyone here that can help me get flash working again?  I am on 64bit and cannot seem to get the deb package from adobe to install, it complains about wrong architecture, i do have the ia32 libs installed
[15:31] <wut> hell i can't even get ubuntu to install through wubi
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: you dont use that. just run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and you will have flash
[15:31] <Shwack> Any new file I save is not showing up in folders - I have to refresh that folder to see it.   Can anyone help me?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> jcrawford, try this tutorial
[15:32] <jcrawford> ActionParsnip, i was just told that flash was broken in karmic
[15:32] <BluesKaj> jcrawford, http://technologycrowd.com/2009/11/01/installing-64-bit-flash-player-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[15:32] <luomo> there are basically two drivers related to my some b43 b44 network card drivers and please tell me few steps. I can show the driver in Live CD but i have installed it on my PC and now i cant find them.
[15:32] <jcrawford> thanks BluesKaj
[15:32] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Reading this,http://roscidus.com/Manual/Manual/Manual.html , it's nice
[15:32] <IdleOne> jcrawford: flash works great in karmic
[15:32] <IdleOne> jcrawford: for me
[15:33] <luomo> ActionParsnip: there are basically two drivers related to my some b43 b44 network card drivers and please tell me few steps. I can show the driver in Live CD but i have installed it on my PC and now i cant find them
[15:33] <jcrawford> IdleOne, an update ran this morning which seems to have broken my flash :(
[15:33] <kalu> #help
[15:34] <arand> Alan502: sorry, got a visitor. So What I would do is: " sudo chown alan:alan UrbanTerror " (from the Linux directory above).
[15:34] <duffydack> just so you know, i made a 125mb fat32 partition on my usb stick and it used 1.95mb, fat16 used 268k
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: its fine, the guide BluesKaj gave is good, but if you run this string of commands it will be fine: cd ~/; wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; rm .//libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; sudo mv ./liibflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[15:34] <slayton> how bad is it to install jaunty packages under karmic?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: you cannot have ANY other flash plugins installed or it wil NOT work
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> slayton: you dont
[15:35] <arand> Alan502: Correction " sudo chown -R alan:alan UrbanTerror " (added -R for recursive)
[15:35] <jcrawford> thanks ActionParsnip i will do that now
[15:35] <luomo> ActionParsnip: there are basically two drivers related to my some b43 b44 network card drivers and please tell me few steps. I can show the driver in Live CD but i have installed it on my PC and now i cant find them
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: if you have any gnash, flashplugin-installer flashplgin-nonfree or swdec stuff installed, remove it
[15:36] <mcscruff> luomo, System - Administration - Hardware Drivers
[15:36] <slayton> ActionParsnip, i know that it isn't done but I'm trying to configure LDAP and samba and the ldap package in Karmic is broken with respect to the documentation and I can't for the life of me get it working
[15:36] <Alan502> dont worry arand , trying it...
[15:36] <arand> Alan502: this will change the ownership of that folder to your user instead of root, and hence allow you executing it
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | luomo
[15:36] <Alan502> alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux$ sudo chown -R alan:alan UrbanTerror
[15:36] <Alan502> alan@alan-desktop:~/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux$ ~/Documents/My\ Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386
[15:36] <Alan502> bash: /home/alan/Documents/My Documents/Downloads/Linux/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386: Permission denied
[15:36] <luomo> mcscruff:this option is not showing drivers although it is showing drivers in live CD
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: i use it in chromium, works great
[15:37] <Alan502> arand, is there a problem that the My Documents folder is a soft link?
[15:37] <mahngiel> how do i access the filesys from the terminal?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Alan502: cd past the softlink and execute there
[15:37] <mcscruff> mahngiel, cd /
[15:37] <Guest17398> I would like my ban on #ubuntu-nl to be removed
[15:37] <Alan502> i have, ActionParsnip
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest17398: go ask in #freenode
[15:38] <grawity> Guest17398: Try #ubuntu-ops.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Alan502: is the data on an ntfs partition/
[15:38] <klown> !firefox
[15:38] <Alan502> ActionParsnip,  yes
[15:38] <mahngiel> mcscruff: thx
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Alan502: thats why the command fails, ntfs can't store linux style permissions
[15:39] <slayton> is it even possible to install jaunty packages in karmic?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> slayton: you can but its not advised
[15:39] <Shwack> Any new file I save is not showing up in folders - I have to refresh that folder to see it.   Can anyone help me?
[15:39] <jcrawford> thanks ActionParsnip that worked great
[15:39] <mcscruff> slayton, you can, but i would not recommend it
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> slayton: you will get a big mess of dependancies
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: easiest way dude
[15:39] <Alan502> oh! i think just moving the directory to my etx3 partition would work... thanks :)
[15:39] <ulb> I am trying to ssh into another computer for the first time and I am getting the error cannot find terminfo entry fro rxvt-unicode, but I have the file /usr/share/terminfo/r/ . What could be the problem?
[15:40] <slayton> ActionParsnip, I'm messing around with a virtual machine and I am not really worried about losing this machine, where can I read about how to do it?
[15:40] <Alan502> ActionParsnip, lol such a simple problem and i didnt know, thanks for all your help!
[15:40] <Alan502> arand, problem solved, thanks for the help!
[15:40] <arand> Alan502: yea, should, and you'll likely be able to chmod it properly there.
[15:40] <arand> Alan502: glad to help.
[15:40] <wrwetzel> test, please ignore
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> slayton: the web is a great resource for research, yo can also ak in #vmware and #vbox
[15:41] <slayton> ActionParsnip, oh sorry. I've already got my virtual machine running, where can I read about installing packages from a previous version of ubuntu
[15:42]  * slayton asked a poorly phrased question
[15:42] <mcscruff> slayton, if you dont mind messing up your system, just install them by downloading it and double clicking it, or the terminal way dpkg -i
[15:42] <Shwack> Any new file I save is not showing up in folders - I have to refresh that folder to see it.   Can anyone help me?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> slayton: not sure, its not supported so is offtopic
[15:42] <slayton> ok thanks
[15:43] <mcscruff> slayton, they install the same way.  If you want jaunty to be in your repo, change karmic to jaunty but this is highly unrecommended
[15:43] <slayton> ok
[15:43] <mcscruff> ActionParsnip, i know that was offtopic but some apps eg boxee only have a jaunty package
[15:43] <scatterp> hi i would like to record VIDEO (preferably QT4 MP4) of the framebuffer to stream (i.e. not a pty or xterm)?
[15:44] <user_> hi
[15:44] <user_> I have a issue with crontab
[15:45] <mahngiel> ok, i need someone to hold my hand and walk me through this issue: i was trying to install a new win mgr. i installed e16 and removed metacity - rebooted and no changes? so then i installed icewm and rebooted... now i only have terminal upon boot
[15:45] <mahngiel> i use wifi so i don't have internet access upon boot
[15:45] <Shwack> win7?
[15:45] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: I read this http://roscidus.com/Manual/Manual/Manual.html , is it possible to have "startup application" menu in rox panel , i can add the panel but there is no startup application menu,
[15:45] <user_> I want to change the crontab with a script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/331780/. If I use vim or launch a shell, editing works, but if I use a script to edit the /tmp/crontab* file, it says No modification made
[15:45] <mahngiel> i have metacity, icewm, and e16 on a thumdrive, but i can't figure out the terminal cmd to open the drive
[15:45] <user_> I want to change the crontab with a script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/331780/. If I use vim or launch a shell, editing works, but if I use a script to edit the /tmp/crontab* file, it says 'No modification made'.
[15:46] <c3l> How do I give two users write permission to the same folder? without removing the current owner group
[15:46] <mahngiel> i need help opening the drive, and installing something... any of you out there able to help?
[15:46] <chrisw> hi, when I ssh into an ubuntu server, i'm getting some 'orrible odl shell... how do I get bash instead?
[15:46] <ulb> I am trying to ssh into another computer for the first time and I am getting the error cannot find terminfo entry fro rxvt-unicode, but I have the file /usr/share/terminfo/r/ . What could be the problem?
[15:46] <ulb> any ideas?
[15:47] <user_> chrisw: chsh
[15:47] <jrib> chrisw: who are you sshing as?  bash should be default
[15:48] <mahngiel> can someone help me install from a tarball off my thumbdrive from the terminal pls?
[15:48] <davidSSO> chrisw: maybe that user at that host has this shell
[15:48] <chrisw> user_: that said I had /bin/sh, but changign that to /bin/bash didn't help...
[15:48] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: why not use a deb?  Just get a deb of metacity, and install that
[15:49] <ulb> metacity is in default repositories...use that?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: ou can extract it with: tar zxvf filename
[15:49] <chrisw> davidSSO: okay, but how do I change that?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: much easier to use a deb or repo though dude
[15:49] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: i couldn't find a metacity deb file. only deb i found was for e16. but i don't want metacity, am willing to go back if i can't get e16 or icewm to work.
[15:49] <mahngiel> ActionParsnip: my wifi doesn't enable upon boot, all i get is the terminal
[15:50] <J13R1> hi
[15:50] <mahngiel> how can i access my thumbdrive? from the filesys, i don't see my drives. i only see cdrom and cdrom0 from /dev. but there's nothign inside when i ls
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: then configure it in /etc/networ/interfaces and it will
[15:51] <ulb> mahngiel: sudo fdisk -l
[15:51] <davidSSO> chrisw: change /etc/passwd at that host that you are connecting and set /bin/bash
[15:51] <mahngiel> ulb: fdisk -1, i'll try that thanks
[15:51] <mahngiel> i'll be back soon, i think
[15:51] <mahngiel> before i go, someone point me to a link i can get the metacity deb file?
[15:51] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: yes, go back to metacity first.  there is no need to remove metacity in order to use other wms.  Im looking
[15:52] <chrisw> davidSSO: ah, these host have funny active directory auth :-(
[15:52] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: ok thanks, didn't know that. just didn't see any diff when i had e16 OR icewm installed
[15:52] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: i386 karmic?
[15:52] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: yessum
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  normally you install different windowmanager/desktops then select the one to use from the GDM login screen
[15:53] <davidSSO> chrisw:and are you admin there?
[15:53] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: i didn't get any options upon reboot
[15:53] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/metacity/download or http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/m/metacity/metacity_2.28.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  select yoru user.. look at the menus at the bottom. Not all desktop/wms properly add a menu item to the 'sessions' menu.
[15:53] <chrisw> davidSSO: admin in what in what context?
[15:53] <ulb> mahngiel: ont he bottom right of the GDM window you can change the session...look for whatever WM you want to use from the list
[15:54] <ulb> mahngiel: and you don't have to reboot, just log out of your current session
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> Its alternative window manager day today it seems :)
[15:55] <mahngiel> aight, thanks guys. i'll reinstall metacity off fdisk -1 and hopefully be able to come back
[15:55] <davidSSO> chrisw: you need to be administrator of this active directory
[15:55] <mahngiel> thanks
[15:55] <chrisw> davidSSO: gotcha, no, I'm not
[15:55] <EMKO> anyone know how to fix this ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration timeout (2457MHz) ?
[15:56] <amarendra> How can we download video from Youtube?
[15:56] <glassresistor> jcrawford: sorry at work still needing help?
[15:56] <jrib> amarendra: keepvid.com
[15:56] <amarendra> thanx
[15:57] <rhorse> amarendra: install greasemonkey and then a youtube dl script\
[15:57] <ulb> amarendra: firefox "download helper" extension
[15:58] <arseny92> somehow I have a problem of adding/changing my email on launchpad... added an email, then followed  the verify link, it showed a nearly blank bage with 'continue/cancel' buttons. Continued, it went back to the email setup page. Refreshed it, but the new email didnt showed up. Trying to re-add, but now it goes to an 'oops' error page...
[15:58] <rhorse> arseny92: that site is run by part time volunteers shoot em an email
[15:58] <porkpie> Anyone know how to setup swat so it can be accessed over the internet?
[15:59] <P0rnflakes> hi
[15:59] <tigerrawrr> hi i am not sure what i did wrong but i think my flash install is to blame
[15:59] <Pici> arseny92: launchpad support is in #launchpad
[15:59] <davidSSO> chrisw:you need to talk with him
[15:59] <arseny92> thnx
[16:00] <amarendra> i have downloaded real player but its file is realplayer.bin
[16:00] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, my "open link in browser" for xchat is not working. How to solve this?
[16:00] <amarendra> Wat shoul i do now??
[16:00] <tigerrawrr> i just installed flash and am trying to watch videos on youtube and all of a sudden i hear everything inclooding my mp3's in  a deep throath effect
[16:00] <rhorse> isolat3dsh33p: what does your xchat preferences say for default browser
[16:01] <erUSUL> amarendra: use the realplayer from the medibuntu repo
[16:01] <jcrawford> glassresistor, nah thanks ActionParsnip helped me out :)
[16:01] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | amarendra
[16:01] <chrisw> davidSSO: I am, do you know where he should go to set this?
[16:01] <phretor> hi
[16:02] <epinky> EMKO: are you using generic kernel?  if so, try with "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic"
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  last i used xchat  that was missconfigured for  the last 4+ releases  Theres  URL handler menu item in the settings. but you may have to check the forums/xchat docs to see how to set it for what browser you want to use
[16:03] <phretor> what could be the cause of "failed: RPC Error: Program not registered" on "sudo mount /mnt/nfs/backup/" when I can mount the same NFS share from a different NFS client?
[16:03] <EMKO> epinky what will this do?
[16:03] <ShawnRisk> I have tried for a day now with the wireless connection in Ubuntu 9.10, and not getting anywhere.  I can see the wireless networks, and the connection was connected twice but disconnected right away.  I am using a DELL Laptop.  Any reason why the wireless disconnected right away?
[16:03] <isolat3dsh33p> rhorse, I could not find that preference in Settings->Preferences
[16:03] <llutz> phretor: portmap not running?
[16:03] <ulb> ShawnRisk: have you tried pinging the gateway and looking for dropped packets?
[16:04] <epinky> EMKO: That module contains all the cutting edge wireless drivers for Ubuntu Karmic from the testing repositories which haven’t yet been officially released, hope it could help
[16:04] <phretor> llutz: daemon 3991 0.0 0.1 1940 604 ? Ss Oct30 0:00 /sbin/portmap
[16:04] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis, i'll check it out. Thanks for the info :)
[16:04] <littlegreen> ulb his connection just drops out. Like... DHCP lease time 5 seconds or so... Can't explain it even to myself
[16:04] <EMKO> epinky: ok i will install that is there something i must do after i install that?
[16:05] <ulb> have you tried switching drivers?
[16:05] <ShawnRisk> ulb: it connects sometimes but there is no signal and when I look at it in terminal there is a signal
[16:05] <ShawnRisk> ulb: the other drivers are not working
[16:05] <ulb> ShawnRisk: you might try switching drivers, I had similar problems with my realtek wifi...I ended up having to use ndiswrapper
[16:06] <rhorse> isolat3dsh33p: have you tried the config preferences in the main menu. Tjhere is one for default browser, I'm sure
[16:06] <ShawnRisk> ulb: can you help me get ndiswrapper working?
[16:06] <epinky> EMKO: not really, just Open up “Software Sources” and browse to the “Updates” tab, make sure the karmic-backports option is ticked
[16:06] <ShawnRisk> ulb: can I PM you?
[16:06] <EMKO> epinky: i have only ssh :( just apt-get update and upgrade?
[16:07] <ulb> ShawnRisk: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-gtk (this will install ndiswrapper AND the gtk GUI)
[16:07] <phretor> llutz: the real problem is that http://dpaste.org/qvwQ/ - while from another client I obtain http://dpaste.org/At4w/, against the same server.
[16:07] <ulb> ShawnRisk: you also have to download the windows driver for whatever card you have
[16:07] <phretor> llua: ain't it weird?
[16:07] <isolat3dsh33p> rhorse, no, I'm not sure where it is. :/
[16:07] <amarendra> Can we trace the location of person in pidgin if i m using pidgin as google talk
[16:07] <chrisw> hurmph... how do you disable public key auth on sshd?
[16:08] <chrisw> ( want to un-disable it!)
[16:08] <nike_> hey I just tried installing Kubuntu 9.10 (64-Bit) on my computer and right after the bootsplash I got a Blackscreen... any suggestions?
[16:08] <amarendra> can i get gtalk for ubuntu?
[16:08] <ulb> ShawnRisk: better to keep it in the channel so other people have the chance to follow (and learn from or help you)
[16:08] <epinky> EMKO: :( you'll have to enable that locally(I mean you'll need to do that on the computer that is having that wireless problem)
[16:08] <llutz> chrisw: man sshd_config
[16:08] <ShawnRisk> ulb: truue
[16:09] <ShawnRisk> ulb: there is no ndiswrapper-gtk package
[16:09] <rhorse> isolat3dsh33p: System \ Preferences \ Preferred Applications.
[16:09] <EMKO> well its the same on the computer i only have a login terminal
[16:09] <porkpie> how do I check port 901 is open
[16:09] <ulb> sorry ndisgtk
[16:09] <porkpie> I am trying to get swat to work
[16:09] <c3l> how do I encrypt a directory (and all its underlying files and folders)?
[16:09] <mh__> hi
[16:09] <ulb> apt-cache search ndisgtk
[16:09] <lastent> hi, I need an app to check my printer ink level, do you know a good one? I have a Canon i560
[16:10] <jpds> chrisw: PubkeyAuthentication yes - in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:10] <EMKO> epinky: well its the same on the computer i only have a login terminal im using the computer as HTPC wich only runs xbmc
[16:10] <isolat3dsh33p> rhorse, owh that. Turns out my browser is set to custom. It's solved. Thank you very much :D
[16:10] <mh__> I've installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras but there's still no java browser plugin present, what now?
[16:10] <rhorse> isolat3dsh33p: yw!
[16:11] <ChogyDan> mh__: extras no longer depends on java
[16:11] <epinky> EMKO: it has to look this way, check the backports section: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonolumb/4112112734/
[16:11] <trism> mh__: should be sun-java6-plugin
[16:11] <ShawnRisk> ulb:  installed
[16:11] <mh__> ChogyDan, so the wiki article is old...
[16:11] <chrisw> jpds: thanks :-)
[16:12] <mh__> !de
[16:12] <ShawnRisk> ulb: next?
[16:12] <ulb> ShawnRisk: now download the driver for your card from the retailer site
[16:12] <Black_Phantom> Hello, how can I be a Ubuntu developer ? what knowledge do I need ? what programming language specifically
[16:13] <EMKO> epinky: i dont have a graphic interface i just have a terminal  i will try reboot to see if its working now
[16:13] <maco> !MOTU | Black_Phantom
[16:13] <maco> Black_Phantom: programming is not a requirement
[16:13] <ulb> ShawnRisk: "downlaod the Windows driver from the retailer site"
[16:13] <ShawnRisk> ulb: ok
[16:13] <Black_Phantom> Motu is the team of developers ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:14] <maco> Black_Phantom: its the developers in charge of universe and multiverse. after being a MOTU a while, you can apply to be a Core Developer and get access to main....but this entire process is changing like...right now
[16:15] <alokito> how to restore karmic's grub after installing windows?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | alokito
[16:15] <maco> Black_Phantom: going forward, you apply to be an ubuntu desktop or kubuntu desktop or ubuntu server or mythbuntu or whatever developer
[16:15] <Black_Phantom> maco your Mackenzie  ?
[16:15] <alokito> sudo grub is not working in the livecd
[16:15] <maco> Black_Phantom: yes
[16:15] <Black_Phantom> I just read about you lol
[16:15] <maco> :)
[16:15] <Black_Phantom> so anyways how can I get started, there are loads of things to do
[16:16] <Black_Phantom> What do developers do other than programming ?
[16:16] <maco> Black_Phantom: packaging, patch review, adding patches to packages
[16:16] <alokito> ActionParsnip: how can I switch back to the old grub?
[16:16] <maco> Black_Phantom: join #ubuntu-motu, i have to run to catch a plane
[16:16] <alokito> I don't like grub2
[16:16] <abandoned> hello, does anyone know how to map a truecrypt volume? i cant seem to figure it out :/
[16:16] <Pici> Black_Phantom: This may also be helpful if you're not sure how you want to help Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[16:16] <sid_> hey guys need help...i just now installed ubuntu 9.10 ...and updated....but wen em trying to change the theme em getting the error ""desktop effects could not be enabled """"""help
[16:17] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I put a bunch of synaptics options in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf (the same you can specify with "synclient Variable=Value"), yet when I start a gnome session the variables don't have the specified value.  What gives?
[16:17] <Black_Phantom> Pici, I understand but I'm insteresed in developing the OS itself, it will really motivate me to learn programming and more software knowledge
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> sid_: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[16:17] <jonaskoelker> Does gnome-${something} override my choices?  Is this something to do with HAL interfering?
[16:18] <ManDay_> i just installed a 100% vanilla minimal ubuntu and when i boot up after installation the kernel stops at   swap: waiting for UUID-.....-...-...-...-...... and hangs up
[16:18] <ManDay_>  \o/
[16:18] <ManDay_> anyone?
[16:18] <Black_Phantom> what code does the packages uses so that I can start learning the porgramming language ?
[16:19] <sid_> actionparsnip:i think i did ..s i didi
[16:19] <ManDay_> nvm
[16:19] <maco> Black_Phantom: packaging doesnt require more than a bit of shell scripting. its more learning the tools. the software inside the package can be in any language, but python, C, and C++ (well, C++ for KDE stuff) are common
[16:19] <abandoned> using this guide, but that step for mapping is bullshit, -N ist even a real option :S http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Truecrypt#Encrypting_a_physical_volume
[16:19] <maco> Black_Phantom: so if youre going to be writing patches or reviewing them, might want to learn one of those
[16:19] <ManDay_> AH!
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> ManDay_: boot to live cd and read the fstab on the partition and run: sudo blkid   to compare, if not hange it, if it is then you may have to use the /dev/sda1 type notation instead of the UUIS
[16:20] <erUSUL> !paclaging | Black_Phantom
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> Black_Phantom:  you may want to start with learning BASH  if you have 0 linux skills
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> sid_: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[16:20] <erUSUL> !packaging | Black_Phantom
[16:20] <ShawnRisk> ulb: can't find it.  It is the Broadcom bcm4311
[16:20] <ManDay_> when i get into aptitude and press / to search it drops back to shells saying: Uncaught exception: Unable to read from stdin: Success--- wth is that?
[16:20] <haelwenn> what?
[16:20] <sid_> actionparsnip:ill check wait
[16:20] <Black_Phantom> Dr_Willis thats for shell scripting ?
[16:21] <ratatim> I have what you might consider a painfully beginner question.
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> Black_Phantom:  if you dont know any bash.. learn bash. :) its the shell.. and it can do scripting
[16:21] <ManDay_> Actually it doesnt matter WHAT i press. As soon as I press any key within aptitude it drops to shell with "Uncaught exception: Unable to read from stdin: Success"
[16:21] <haelwenn> how are you ratatim
[16:21] <sid_> actionparsnip:should i paste it here???its small??
[16:21] <ratatim> I'm wonderful thank you
[16:21] <genii> ratatim: Just ask to the channel, someone is likely to reply
[16:21] <ratatim> How are you haelwenn?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> sid_: its a single line so its fine in here
[16:21] <sid_> actionparsnip:ya
[16:22] <haelwenn> I'm fine
[16:22] <cornwall> Hi, what package should I file a bug under when the bug deals with mounting and unmounting media?
[16:22] <sid_> actionparsnip:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[16:22] <ulb> ShawnRisk: have you looked at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%201:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Install%20NDISWrapper%20and%20Blacklist%20Native%20Driver ?
[16:22] <ShawnRisk> ulb: if STA worked I would use that and I think that would be better but it isn't for some reason
[16:22] <Black_Phantom> ok thanks maco, Dr_Willis, Pici, I am going to get started with the guide:)
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> !ati | sid
[16:22] <sid_> actionparsnip:then??
[16:22] <darck1> Hi. I have a package I want to install from launchpad-ppa but I get this: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.16) but 2.14.1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed - Can you tell me how to fix this?
[16:23] <grawity> cornwall: From GUI? I'd try "nautilus" - the file manager.
[16:23] <ratatim> I'm updating from 8.04 to 8.10 so I can then update to 9.10. I have no CD drive and my usb ports are junk. How can I boot from ISO? and will my information be lost?
[16:23] <haelwenn> where are you from?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sid_: read the above, the ati drivers may not be configured already which is why you don't get 3D. You may not get 3D accelleration due to Ati's weird idea of what support is
[16:23] <EMKO> once i run sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic  does that install the latest wireless drivers?
[16:23] <haelwenn> ratatim
[16:23] <ratatim> I'm from Indiana
[16:23] <cornwall> grawity, not from GUI, I need the actual lib that does the hard work
[16:23] <teddymills> Ubuntu 910 (static IP) today for some unknown reason I had to apt-get remove network-manager because the /etc/resolv.conf was empty on every reboot..I dont want to retype dns on every reboot. Network-Manager had to go! 910 is flaky
[16:23] <ratatim> Greencastle to be more specific
[16:23] <sid_> actionparsnip:so wat should i do?
[16:23] <ShawnRisk> ulb: still  there?
[16:23] <cornwall> grawity, although, perhaps nautilus would be the right package
[16:23] <haelwenn> I'm from french
[16:24] <grawity> cornwall: Actually... how exactly do you mount that thing?
[16:24] <ulb> yes
[16:24] <ratatim> I see. could you help me with my problem?
[16:24] <ZaNeIuM>  i am having very slow speeds when transfering files from my windows shared folders to my linux system. about 3MB/s but if i boot the linux system to windows i now get 11MB/s from my shared folders. is this normal for linux?
[16:24] <ShawnRisk> ulb: ideas on what to do?
[16:24] <cornwall> grawity, the bug is that in Karmic, clicking the eject button in nautilus does not ask to empty the trash, nor does it do it automatically. I think you're right, it is Nautilus
[16:25] <haelwenn> Do you speak french(ratatim)
[16:25] <ManDay_> I just istalled a 100% vanilla, 100% minimal (absolutely no packages selected) ubuntu karmic minimal on an EEE-pc. After first boot, I tried to start aptitude to get my programs (because aptitude in the install seems to be buggy). Starting it works, but as soon as I press any key it crahes with "Uncaught exception: Unable to read from stdin: Success" Please help
[16:25] <ratatim> No i do not speak french, I'm sorry.
[16:25] <ulb> ShawnRisk: did you check the link I posted? it is a detailed step by step for ndiswrapper and Broadcom 43xx modems
[16:25] <teddymills> You using the Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[16:26] <ShawnRisk> ulb:  I didn't see it there are too many message here I missed it
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sid_: read the link in the factoid. You can also check out: www.ati.com  to see if there is a driver for your card
[16:26] <ulb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%201:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Install%20NDISWrapper%20and%20Blacklist%20Native%20Driver
[16:26] <cornwall> grawity, I'll go ahead and file it for that. Thanks for your help
[16:26] <ZaNeIuM> if goto the desktop and goto my places | network | windows workgroups | etc ,using linux ugi explorer if i then drang and drop a file, say to my desktop, its very slow at 3MB/s
[16:26] <sid_> actionparsnip:k
[16:26] <ShawnRisk> ulb: looking
[16:27] <ZaNeIuM> is this normal?
[16:27] <haelwenn> what the velocity of sparow(bird)
[16:27] <genii> !ot | haelwenn
[16:27] <haelwenn> what the velocity of sparow(bird)ratatim
[16:28] <ratatim> haelwenn: i'm not sure what you mean.
[16:28] <teddymills> Zaneium, I have learned if there is samba in the kernel, and userspace samba is used..it is slow as molasses..Remove all samba from the kernel...Then again it could be 99 other things
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: did the TCP no wait not help?
[16:29] <ZaNeIuM> ActionParsnip: ah, hello you left just before i had an issue
[16:29] <pkkm> how to install newest kde?
[16:29] <daveycakes> hi there, i have a bluetooth dongle and it hasnt automatically installed (9.10)
[16:29] <ZaNeIuM> it told me samba was not installed
[16:29] <daveycakes> is their a drive for it somewhere?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf      and change: # soctet options = TCP_NODELAY     to   socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=8192 SO_RCVBUF=8192
[16:30] <ZaNeIuM> and told me to use apt-get sabma4
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: remove the # as well so its not a comment and add the extra bits
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: i get good speeds with 3.4 from the repo
[16:31] <trism> ManDay_: seems to be a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/458524 unfortunately I don't see any easy solution to it...do apt-get/apt-cache work?
[16:31] <ratatim>  i'd like to know how to boot 8.10 from ISO without using a CD or USB. I'm running 8.04 Hardy
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  so you mean how to 'netboot' ?
[16:32] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  How do I configure my input peripherals through xorg.conf rather than HAL?
[16:32] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: if that's what that is, then yes
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  to boot an iso file you can do that with grub2.. but that would need a usb with grub2 installed on it
[16:32] <EMKO> once i run sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic does that automaticly install the latest wireless drivers?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  otherwise you are going to have to do some other type of booting
[16:32] <haelwenn> the speed of a Hironde
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> ratatim: you will need grub2 for that, i dont think grub1 can boot iso (I know lilo can)
[16:33] <Black_Phantom> maco, sorry for this personal question but what/where are the videos that you watched when you wanted to become a MOTU ?
[16:33] <IdleOne> !fr | haelwenn
[16:33] <maco> Black_Phantom: on youtube, search for "daniel holbach motu"
[16:33] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: How can I enable my USB drive to mount a flash drive?
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> Lilo can boot an iso? never seen that.
[16:33] <ManDay_> trism, I found that submission, too. And unfortunally, I have to agree with the rest they say: After doing this and that for a while (besides trying to get aptitude to work) I had to learn that the whole system seems to be broken (which is very weird considering that it's 100% vanilla and ubuntu always worked for me).
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  Huh?  I plug my flash drive in and ubuntu mounts it..
[16:33] <haelwenn> my computer is slow
[16:34] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: mine always says "Cannot mount volume"
[16:34] <epinky> EMKO: it will install wireless drivers for Ubuntu Karmic which haven’t yet been officially released
[16:34] <teddymills> http://pastebin.com/m4d52bbca   <--i like SWAT since it makes very small samba.config files...nothing but the essentials..Who needs 1500 lines of samba config?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> haelwenn: use a lighter DE and WM
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  could be a typo in /etc/fstab I had one install that had the cdrom as sdc  when sdc was the usb  drives
[16:34] <trism> ManDay_: yeah, I am using the command line install from jaunty right now and it works fine...kind of glad I haven't updated it yet now
[16:35] <EMKO> epinky: i know but what i dont understand is once i run the apt-get install does that install the drivers and i have nothing els to do? because u showed me something wich i cant do i have only a terminal to type commands
[16:35] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: I'm quite the newbie. Should i type any specific command that would allow my USB drive to work? Sorry if i sound redundant
[16:35] <ManDay_> can anyone quickly tell me how large /boot is?
[16:35] <EMKO> epinky: is there a way to check what my wifi is using for the driver version?
[16:35] <haelwenn> 1GHZ CPU
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  it should work automatically.
[16:36] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: typing /etc/fstab?
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  No.. /etc/fstab defines mountpoints.
[16:36] <erUSUL> ManDay_: 31M     /boot/ <<< in my install only two kernels installed
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  if you have more then 1 flash drive try plugging in all of them . see if any get auto mounted
[16:36] <ManDay_> thanks erUSUL
[16:37] <haelwenn> What is the speed of your CPU
[16:37] <haelwenn> ratatim
[16:37] <c3l> how do I make ecryptfs not mount the private folder automatically?
[16:37] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: I'll try that once I get home in a few hours.  What if that doesn't work?
[16:37] <rb__> is kaffeine in karmic not able to send a video stream?
[16:37] <ManDay_> does it make sense to reserve 0% for su on all partitions but /boot (where i reserve 20% for su) ?
[16:37] <ratatim> haelwenn: Yes?
[16:38] <rb__> in the previous version it was under the menu file >network stream > send broadcast
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  No idea really. ive had issues with automopunting since beta.. still not sure whats crashing. they will automount for about 10 min.. then stop. If i logout/in then it goes back to automounting them
[16:38] <erUSUL> ManDay_: the reserverd space looks more important in the root parition
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  you could alwyas plug them in and mount them byhand
[16:38] <ManDay_> erUSUL, I wonder where exactly that reserved space should be!?
[16:38] <ManDay_> in /var?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> haelwenn: how much ram does the system have?
[16:39] <mahngiel> okay, i'm halfway there
[16:39] <erUSUL> ManDay_: by default is 5% in ext[234] fs other linux fs do not make any reservation
[16:39] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: I'm using a Sandisk Cruzer. I've heard removing the U3 software from the flash drive will help.
[16:39] <ManDay_> erUSUL, huh?
[16:39] <ManDay_> ah right
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  the u3 stuff really screws things up the device shows up as a CD and a hard drive. I always repartition and get rid of the u3 stuff
[16:40] <mahngiel> i found out i was logged into xterm, i got into e16-gnome, but i think i'm missing some files - i can't swap windows.  i installed metacity, but i don't get the option from the sessions tab at the log in screne
[16:40] <samuli--> why is unrarring so slow on ubuntu (linux in general?) ?
[16:40] <ManDay_> nvm. yeah just wondering what's the point of that reserved space. someone claimed that it can be some sort of fallback to enable SU to log in in extreme situations
[16:40] <ManDay_> but i really dont get the point
[16:41] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: Well i'm using a Kingston flash drive until I find my Sandisk. Once I find my Sandisk I'll remove U3 from it.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> ManDay_: i suggest you research what the ext3 journal is
[16:41] <ManDay_> ActionParsnip, ?
[16:41] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: I'm a broke college kid.
[16:41] <genii> ManDay_: The manpage for tune2fs explains about the 5% reservation. Syslog space, etc
[16:41] <ManDay_> thanks genii
[16:41] <geekbuntu> does anyone know how to open a port in ubuntu so i can log into a rdp session of virtualbox?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> ratatim:  2gb flash drive less then the cost of a meal at McDonolds this time of year
[16:42] <mahngiel> which gnome pkgs do i need in order to have the window drawing and panels?
[16:42] <ManDay_> genii, i have to ask for the moment, which of the following should get a 5% reservation: / , /usr, /var, /home or /boot ?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ManDay_: well you are asking about the journal (the reserved space) and whatits for, you'l find its very beneficial
[16:42] <ManDay_> ActionParsnip, the 5% are for the journal?
[16:42] <ManDay_> are you sure?
[16:42] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: You're right. I could probably round up some funds for a new flash drive.
[16:43] <ManDay_> because it says "reserved for su"
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> geekbuntu: you will need to bridge the connection from host to guest. I'dd ask in #vbox
[16:43] <geekbuntu> ActionParsnip: ok - ty
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> ManDay_:  5% of ext3/2/4 is reserved for recocovery options. (lost+found) its tuneable with the tune2fs command
[16:43] <epinky> EMKO: version information for each MadWifi module is sent to the system log when  the modules are loaded. You can check that log with "dmesg" and "lsmod", for example.
[16:43] <ShawnRisk> ulb: should I do the last line of part 3?
[16:43] <ManDay_> ah ok
[16:43] <ManDay_> thanks willis
[16:43] <ShawnRisk> ulb: mine is WEP
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ManDay_: yes, on huge drives 5% can get quite large, 5% of 1Tb is a large chunk of data
[16:44] <EMKO> epinky: im using ath5k not madwifi since madwifi is not used anymore
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ManDay_: it can be tweaked but 5% is standard
[16:44] <ratatim> Dr_Willis: Is that all I need? A 2gb flash? I plan on using that to boot Jaunty on my computer. Oh, another question. Will I lose my information moving from 8.04 to 8.10?
[16:45] <epinky> EMKO: ath5k well is was formerly known as madwifi, sorry if I sounded "old"
[16:46] <ShawnRisk> ulb: there?
[16:46] <genii> ManDay_: /var the most because thats where the logs go
[16:46] <ulb> ShawnRisk:  disable wep and try it first
[16:46] <c3l> how do I make ecryptfs not mount the private folder automatically? and how do I change my passphrase?
[16:46] <isolat3dsh33p> !mobility
[16:47] <ShawnRisk> ulb: can't I keep wep there, and not do the last line?
[16:47] <I-Kido> mahngiel, gnome-desktop-environment
[16:48] <ZaNeIuM> i know # means to inore in config files but what is the ';' mean?
[16:48] <ulb> ShawnRisk: yes, you can try that
[16:49] <mahngiel> I-Kido: working on it, thanks
[16:49] <free_loader> greetings fellow ubuntu users
[16:49] <I-Kido> yw mahngiel
[16:49] <greg^> :)
[16:51] <free_loader> I've been asked to set up a Ubuntu terminal server that should support multiple windows clients. The clients should use the server to browse(like VNC except it's one server and many clients). Is it even possible?
[16:52] <mahngiel> I-Kido: says it depends on 'fast-user-switch-applet >=2
[16:52] <c3l> how do I make ecryptfs not mount the private folder automatically? and how do I change my (login) passphrase?
[16:52] <alvern> hi all. could u advice me what program should i use to copy files (lots of video) from external (usb) hdd (had ntfs), wich MBR is broken?
[16:52] <I-Kido> mahngiel,  you got to to install the dependenties
[16:53] <mahngiel> I-Kido: i searched but couldn't find it. it's either not named 'fast-user-switch' or it's not in my tree
[16:53] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | alvern
[16:53] <himuraken> Man is anyone else feeling the effects of CyberMonday?
[16:53] <alvern> erUSUL, ty)
[16:54] <I-Kido> mahngiel,  hold on
[16:54] <redHead_94> hi
[16:54] <mahngiel> I-Kido: actually it says it is not installable
[16:54] <itdock> t
[16:55] <psilo> !gdict
[16:55] <mahngiel> if i could frickin copy/paste it would be easier to remember those lil details. but i'm having to close in order to access xchat. *sigh*
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  close what?
[16:55] <alokito> recently I installed fc12 and installed the grub in it's root drive, but grub-update from karmic coudn't find it :(... so how can I boot to fedora with my karmic's grub 2?
[16:56] <practisevoodoo_> so i am trying to get a logitech quickcam pro 5000 working on ubuntu, so i am trying to follow these instructions http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Webcams/Installing-QuickCam-Pro-5000-on-Linux/m-p/28027#U28027 and everthing is fine right up until "make uvcvideo" when i run into this error "make: *** /lib/modules.2.6.28-omap1/build: No such file or directory.  Stop" which I though just meant that i need to get the kernel sources. So
[16:56] <practisevoodoo_> i got those (i think) but there is still nothing in that directory. Does anyone have any ideas?
[16:56] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: every window. i'm missing some sort of pkg that i can't draw windows correctly. so i can't resize or anything. must: file > quit
[16:56] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: i uninstalled metacity, and i lost a lot of gnome pkgs
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  try 'metacity --replace' in a terminal? or install soime other window manager 'sudo apt-get install icewm' then run 'icewm'
[16:56] <ulb> mahngiel: you can't alt-tab?
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  install icewm then as a tempary window manager perhaps
[16:57]  * vinces1979 is away: Gone away for now http://zmsocial.net
[16:57] <DexterLB> hi
[16:57] <mahngiel> ulb: i can't do anything like that
[16:57]  * vinces1979 is back.
[16:57] <DexterLB> I added an user with useradd
[16:57] <Zabbadahun> hey is there anyway to have wine read straight from a windows partition?
[16:57] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: i'm running on e16 right now. but i'm missing the gnome pkgs to do anything
[16:57] <DexterLB> created it's home folder with mkdir
[16:57] <DexterLB> I've got no GUI
[16:57] <erUSUL> !away > vinces1979
[16:57] <DexterLB> when I login with root
[16:57] <ulb> mahngiel: open a terminal screen irssi and lyns/links2/elinks
[16:58] <DexterLB> I have root@hostname:folder#
[16:58] <ulb> *lynx
[16:58] <om26er_> volume and mic muted at every boot
[16:58] <mahngiel> ulb: what's that doing for me?
[16:58] <DexterLB> but with a regular user created with useradd I get only '$'
[16:58] <DexterLB> why is that?
[16:58] <DexterLB> (I'm using bash)
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  you could resize the terminal so you can see both. but if you are running enluightment - you shoudl be able to alt-tab. If you run the enlightment window manager
[16:59] <ulb> with screen you can have several things going at the same time..irssi is an irc client, and lynx,links2, and elinks are web browsers (if you haven't done this before, then never mind)
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  or try some other window manager like flvwm, or icewm, or jwm.  as a temp fix.  i would think reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' would reinstall all the needed gnome packages
[16:59] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: i can't resize, i can't alt+tab, i don't have the _, [], or X buttons either
[16:59] <free_loader> DexterLB : I don't know why, but it's happened to me too, what I do is set bash as default
[16:59] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: at this point, i'm just trying to get metacity and gnome back together and stable
[17:00] <ratatim> Should I back up my information if I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10? Or will my information remain on my system?
[17:00] <erUSUL> mahngiel: launch a window manager (twm should be installed ) ?
[17:00] <joshritger> I have installed ndiswrapper and the driver for my linksys wpc100 wifi card in hardy 8.04, I can see my network, but can't connect to it, it times out when trying to get the IP adress. Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
[17:00] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis, and trying to do so without having to back up my crap
[17:00] <DexterLB> free_loader: how do I do that?
[17:00] <alokito> how can I chainload to grub legacy from grub 2?
[17:00] <c3l> how do I make ecryptfs not mount the private folder automatically? and how do I change my (login) passphrase?
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  then it sounds like you dont have any window manager going.     I would install jwm, or twm, or icewm. for starters.. and run one of them.   then you can alt-tab around.. installing ubuntu-desktop SHOULD restore the gnome packages
[17:01] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: alright, brb
[17:01] <ulb> mahngiel: did you install ubuntu server or something?
[17:01] <deserteagle> hello all!
[17:01] <ratatim> ﻿Should I back up my information if I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10? Or will my information remain on my system?
[17:02] <deserteagle> anyone know where I can get an old kernel package?
[17:02] <practisevoodoo__> does anyone know how i would resolve this error? "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.28-omap1/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."
[17:02] <mahngiel> ulb: no. i had installed e16 and icewm. didn't see any change (because i didn't have the log-in screen enabled to switch sessions) so i uninstalled metacity. then i lost tons of gnome pkgs
[17:02] <deserteagle> ratatim, you should always back up, but you shouldn't have any data loss upgrading
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  from a terminal RUN 'icewm'
[17:02] <alankila> practisevoodoo__: missing linux-headers-2.6.28-omap1 or something?
[17:02] <free_loader> DexterLB : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-set-bash-as-your-default-shell/
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  you wont see anything happen if you just install the packages.
[17:02] <DexterLB> free_loader: thank you
[17:02] <mahngiel> ulb: now that i know how to change win mgrs, i'm up sh!t creek because of gnome pkgs
[17:03] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: gotchya. hey, i'm learning here lmao
[17:03] <lainy> Hello, has anyone had this problem before? MPD is playing perfectly fine but the MPD values on Conky all display as "(null)". Sometimes, and I don't know why, it works, i.e., it displays the MPD song, etc.... Any help appreciated
[17:03] <free_loader> DexterLB : cheers
[17:03] <ratatim> deserteagle: Thanks. I'm using a flash drive to upgrade. Wish me luck
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  thats why i was telling you this earlier. :) you had no wm running
[17:03] <ulb> mahngiel:  just install the gnome-desktop meta
[17:03] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: ok, thx for run cmd, i'm in icewm now
[17:03] <deserteagle> ratatim, best of luck!
[17:03] <ulb> mahngiel:  or listen to Dr_Willis and run a WM from terminal
[17:03] <mahngiel> Dr_Wilils: appearantly not. but i logged in under session e16-gnome
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  that could of beenbroke becuase of your missing gnome stuff
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  now install ubuntu-desktop package
[17:04] <mahngiel> Dr_Willis: yep, ok
[17:04] <deserteagle> anyone know where I can get old kernel deb packages?
[17:04] <joshritger> can anybody help me with ndiswrapper
[17:05] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  In fdi files, when specifying input.x11_options.{something}, should I give "string" as a type even though that string is only valid if it's a number?
[17:06] <seidos> joshritger: what problem are you having?
[17:06] <mahngiel> ok, now that i'm running icewm out of the terminal, i'm locked out of using cmd lines, ya?
[17:06] <jrib> mahngiel: umm, why would you be/
[17:06] <seidos> joshritger: i used to use ndiswrapper, it worked okay
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  open a new terminal.. or use 'ctrl-z, then the bg' command
[17:06] <deserteagle> mahngiel, you can still use virtual terminals
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> mahngiel:  open a dozen terminals.. :)
[17:06] <ulb> mahngiel: in that terminal, yes (unless you use screen, OR you type "icewm &&")
[17:06] <ZaNeIuM> im in the smb.conf file when i remove the # it make a like acive to i need to remove all the spaces in from if it too,  for it to work?
[17:06] <erUSUL> mahngiel: you should have run it « icewm & »
[17:06] <mahngiel> haha, damn y'all are good
[17:06] <joshritger> seidos: I have ndiswrapper installed and I can see my network, but I can't get it to connect, it times out when trying to get an IP Adress
[17:07] <ZaNeIuM> #    socket optopns = TCP_NODELAY
[17:07] <erUSUL> ZaNeIuM: no
[17:07] <seidos> joshritger: have you tried manually assigning an ip?
[17:07] <ZaNeIuM>     socket optopns = TCP_NODELAY
[17:07] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My xorg.conf says that some options that could be configured in it are now configured automatically.  Which are those?
[17:07] <ZaNeIuM> or
[17:07] <seidos> joshritger: not sure if it's possible, but it's worth looking into
[17:07] <ZaNeIuM> socket optopns = TCP_NODELAY
[17:08] <mahngiel> brb
[17:08] <ZaNeIuM> or it dont matter
[17:08] <joshritger> seidos: no, I guess I can try that
[17:08] <erUSUL> ZaNeIuM: already told you: does not matter
[17:08] <seidos> joshritger: do you have an atheros wireless chipset?
[17:08] <jonaskoelker> I'm very impressed by that detailed documentation; "if you write things here they might or might not work [EOF]"
[17:08] <ZaNeIuM> thanks i didnt see that when i was typing :P
[17:09] <erUSUL> jonaskoelker: pretty much everything nowadays
[17:09] <erUSUL> jonaskoelker: many installs work with a blank xorg.conf
[17:09] <jonaskoelker> erUSUL: how can I use xorg.conf instead of HAL?  Or at least make HAL read all the settings in my xorg.conf?
[17:09] <joshritger> seidos: yes, but I am running hardy, and I know as of jaunty that the card works out of the box, but in anything newer my graphics has problems that i can't fix
[17:09] <jonz> hello. does anyone here use mcrypt? I'm wondering if anyone can suggest what the general naming convention is for files that you're encrypting (so you know they're encrypted, later when you come around)
[17:09] <erUSUL> jonaskoelker: if xorg.conf is present then it is followed afaik
[17:10] <deus> Any news about ati's legacy drivers?
[17:10] <jrib> jonaskoelker: create an xorg.conf as erUSUL said
[17:10] <deus> something that works beyond xorg 7.5?
[17:10] <seidos> joshritger: i wonder if it's possible to use the atheros driver module in hardy.
[17:10] <c3l> how do I make ecryptfs not mount the private folder automatically? and how do I change my (login) passphrase?
[17:10] <jarlath> Can someone help me set up Empathy with my Freenode account? For some reason it just won't work on a new Karmic install.
[17:10] <free_loader> I've been asked to set up a Ubuntu terminal server that should support multiple windows clients. The clients should use the server to browse(like VNC except it's one server and many clients). Is it even possible?
[17:11] <joshritger> seidos: I have tried installing the restricted module for hardy which is supposed to contain the madwifi atheros drivers and it didn't work
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  i know its possible with xming, and vnc,  ive never used the windows terminal server program/clients however.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  theres also freenx
[17:12] <free_loader> Dr_Willis : but multiple clients? how will that work on VNC?
[17:12] <joshritger> seidos: if it helps the chipset is atheros AR5416
[17:12] <seidos> joshritger: i had trouble getting it set up too in intrepid.  i had to figure out some stuff on blacklisted modules
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  You are confusing with how vnc works on widnows.. with how it CAN work on linux.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  you can have a dozen+ vnc sessions going with 'hidden' desktops - you do NOT need to share the 'current viewable desktop' at all
[17:13] <ShawnRisk> ulb: should I remove sta and b43 drivers if activate?
[17:13] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know why my transfers are so slow then i am using my windows shares
[17:13] <seidos> joshritger: that's a different chipset from mine.  i guess try assigning an ip (not sure how to do it with ndiswrapper in use), and if that doesn't work try to see if maybe the wrong atheros driver module is blacklisted
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  ssh in, run vncserver, connect with vnc client.. repeaat for each new user you want. :)
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  but this can cause quite a bit of load on the server
[17:13] <jonaskoelker> erUSUL, jrib: my synaptics options ("TapButton1" "0" etc.) in xorg.conf are ignored...
[17:14] <joshritger> seidos: I blacklisted ath_hal and the other module for the pci slot
[17:14] <free_loader> Dr_Willis : I didn't know that, I know we can run multiple SSHs but VNC would mean a new GUI for each user and that seems a mountain of a task for a server to perform
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> free_loader:  tasts why you use a light window manager.. OR just use xming on the windows box and ssh -X linuxmachinem and rin the X apps you need
[17:14] <jrib> joshritger: HAL's fdi probably sets it up first.  Why aren't you using a .fdi file for those settings now?
[17:14] <seidos> joshritger: i have AR242x and i'm using jaunty
[17:15] <crohakon> What is a good calendar/agenda reminder software?
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[17:15] <free_loader> Dr_Willis : ah.. thank you
[17:15] <mahngiel> weird. my broadcom card doesn't work under straight icewm, have to use e16-gnome and terminal in icewm
[17:15] <jrib> jonaskoelker: HAL's fdi probably sets it up first.  Why aren't you using a .fdi file for those settings now?
[17:15] <joshritger> jrib: when I followed the directions for setting up ndiswrapper they had me blacklist ath_hal saying that it might conflict with the ndiswrapper driver
[17:15] <jrib> joshritger: sorry, ignore me.  I meant to send that to jonaskoelker
[17:16] <joshritger> jrib: np
[17:16] <Nalleman> Hello. I want some stable, _simple_ gui program that easily sync files between computer and external driver, (with change history). Preferably cross platform. Anyone?
[17:16] <ubuntu> test
[17:16] <erUSUL> Nalleman: grsync
[17:16] <joshritger> seidos: will try to manually set the ip
[17:16] <erUSUL> !hi | ubuntu
[17:17] <Nalleman> erUSUL, is change history saved?
[17:17] <jonaskoelker> jrib: because it's XML and XML hurts my brain and teeth
[17:17] <jonaskoelker> jrib: for one
[17:17] <jonaskoelker> jrib: for two, I keep forgetting about where to configure it
[17:17] <Renesa> hi
[17:17] <erUSUL> Nalleman: no but you can copy paste the output of rsync to a text file. also dunno if its cross platform
[17:18] <seidos> joshritger: i hope it works
[17:18] <seidos> good luck
[17:18] <Nalleman> ok, thanks.
[17:18] <ShawnRisk> ulb: it is connected and disconnecting like always but I can't do anything
[17:18] <aula18> hola
[17:18] <Ras420> hello, i recently got my mother to get rid of windows and use linux.  However, every day she has some sound problem, the sound quits working every day and have to do some fix, but what i dont understand is why i have to keep fixing it?? i have done at least 4 fixes with her and they work for a day or so, (mabye even a acouple hours) and then it breaks again.  Does anyone know of this issue (ubuntu 9.10) why it keep messing up.
[17:18] <aula18> hola
[17:18] <aula26> Hola chato
[17:18] <jonaskoelker> jrib: is there a way to make HAL read the settings in xorg.conf?
[17:18] <Renesa> how r u?
[17:18] <EZombie> hi
[17:18] <greg^> hi
[17:18] <erUSUL> !es | aula26
[17:18] <joshritger> seidos: I know my netmask and gateway, but how do I find my dns domain etc
[17:19] <jonaskoelker> Ras420: uninstall pulseaudio
[17:19] <aula26> Hola
[17:19] <deserteagle> can someone tell me why ubuntu dislikes of the cups-pdf package?
[17:19] <ManDay_> can anyone tell me why the heck I cant prevent ubuntu MINIMAL (!) from installing stuff like open-office and such?
[17:19] <aula13> quien soy yo?
[17:19] <jrib> !synaptics | jonaskoelker
[17:19] <jonaskoelker> Ras420: it has some nice features which don't work, and a lot of bad behavior
[17:19] <aula26> hola13
[17:19] <seidos> joshritger: your DNS is assigned by your internet service provider
[17:19] <aula13> hola 26
[17:19] <aula18> chicas... quedamos para el boy
[17:19] <aula13>  q divertido!
[17:19] <EZombie> i've a problem, i installed ubuntu server 9 in a pc, and now i move the hard-disk to another pc
[17:19] <aula13> quien es el 28?
[17:19] <aula26> no nos disprsemos...
[17:19] <seidos> !es | aula13
[17:19] <erUSUL> deserteagle: it was not installed by default once the gtk print subsystem got the option to print to pdf directly
[17:20] <EZombie> but ubuntu dont recognice my network interface
[17:20] <aula13> concentraos!!
[17:20] <jrib> jonaskoelker: save yourself the trouble and just use the .fdi file.  Otherwise, you'll need to tell xorg not to use hal (see man xorg.conf) but then it won't be used for other devices as well.  ubottu's link should be easy to read
[17:20] <erUSUL> deserteagle: you can install it from the repos though
[17:20] <joshritger> seidos: it wont let me manually assign the ip without a dns domain
[17:20] <deserteagle> erUSUL, i did, but it still won't show up for some reason
[17:20] <aula18> estoy concentrado pero no te digo donde
[17:20] <aula14> hola melón
[17:20] <Ras420> jonaskoelker:  what features? in pulseaudio?
[17:20] <mahngiel> ok, ubuntu-desktop installed, but still missing 'fast-user-switch-applet (>=2.22.0) but it's not installable'
[17:20] <EZombie> i made an "dmesg | grep net"
[17:20] <deserteagle> erUSUL, I use it regularly for WINE programs
[17:20] <samuli--> what program can you use to view .sup subtitles.. or convert them to something else like .srt?
[17:20] <EZombie> and my net card is there
[17:20] <EZombie> but if i put sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[17:21] <jonaskoelker> Ras420: networked sound
[17:21] <EZombie> dont work
[17:21] <deserteagle> samuli: have you tried VLC?
[17:21] <seidos> joshritger: are you assigning the ip in network manager?
[17:21] <jonaskoelker> jrib: what's the lossage induced by not using hal for other devices?
[17:21] <Ras420> jonaskoelker:  she doesnt care about that, i just want her sound to work
[17:21] <joshritger> seidos: I am using wicd, I have had better luck with that in the past
[17:21] <Nalleman> Is there any free backup program with change history log ("time machine")?
[17:22] <aula14> que hacemos después
[17:22] <jonaskoelker> Ras420: right, then uninstall pulseaudio
[17:22] <jrib> jonaskoelker: you have to set them up in xorg.conf
[17:22] <seidos> joshritger: i'm using wicd too.  i've assign an ip for ethernet but not wireless
[17:22] <jrib> jonaskoelker: trust me, it's not difficult to just follow ubottu's link
[17:22] <aula18> juerga y rock and roll
[17:22] <joshritger> seidos: ok, maybe I am missing something
[17:22] <EZombie> i've a problem, i installed ubuntu server 9 in a pc, and now i move the hard-disk to another pc, but now ubuntu cant see my network interface, i made a "dmesg | grep net" and my net card is there... but if i put "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" dont work!
[17:22] <jonaskoelker> jrib: is "AutoAddDevices" the switch I need to flip?  It's the only part of man xorg.conf that mentions HAL...
[17:22] <samuli--> deserteagle, yes. No worky :/
[17:22] <aula26> Hay alguien ahíííííííí???
[17:22] <jrib> jonaskoelker: yes
[17:22] <jonaskoelker> jrib: I know it's not difficult, but I don't want to do it that way
[17:23] <aula13> pq  hay tanta gente aki?
[17:23] <aula26> me estoy dipersando!!!
[17:23] <aula10> hola
[17:23] <aula18> hola aula 10, quedamos?
[17:23] <jonaskoelker> jrib: how about detecting external displays when plugged in, is that done through HAL as well?
[17:23] <jrib> jonaskoelker: stop resisting the future!
[17:23] <aula26> 10?
[17:23] <aula26> quién eres?
[17:23] <jrib> jonaskoelker: yes
[17:23] <aula13> me mareo
[17:23] <aula14> nos vamos
[17:23] <aula18> eso que haya desparrame
[17:23] <aula26> 10?
[17:23] <jrib> stop now please
[17:23] <sipior> aula26: people like you make the internet awful.
[17:23] <aula10> si
[17:23] <jonaskoelker> jrib: stop making the future worth resisting! ;-)
[17:23] <aula14> dame un toque
[17:23] <aula26> vamonos a unas cañlejas
[17:23] <aula26> cañejas, digo
[17:23] <aula18> donde te damos el toque
[17:23] <aula13> pq hay tanta gente aki¿
[17:23] <seidos> joshritger: i'm not sure how you're doing it.  wicd is a mystery to me how it works.  there is probably a file that needs to be edited like how it's done with ethernet
[17:24] <aula26> toque? ahora se llama toque?
[17:24] <wicope> aula26, 10, 13: uniros al canal ubuntu-es
[17:24] <jrib> !es
[17:24] <erUSUL> deserteagle: it gives no problems here. installled cups-pdf. Go to System>Administration>Printers. Server>New > Printer (crtl +n)
[17:24] <EZombie> i've a problem, i installed ubuntu server 9 in a pc, and now i move the hard-disk to another pc, but now ubuntu cant see my network interface, i made a "dmesg | grep net" and my net card is there... but if i put "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" dont work!
[17:24] <aula26> 10? Manifiestate!!
[17:24] <jrib> aula26: #ubuntu-es for spanish
[17:24] <deserteagle> aula26, aula13, aula18 este canal es de soporte para ubuntu, discusiones fuera de topico pueden llevarse a #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <jonaskoelker> jrib: AutoAddDevices is already set to False...
[17:24] <aula26> oooohhhhmmmm
[17:24] <aula26> oohhhmmm
[17:24] <aula13> cuando nos vamos?
[17:24] <joshritger> seidos: I looked at my router stats and found the dns it is using, will try toinput that
[17:24] <aula14> soy el espíritu del demonio
[17:24] <seidos> !ops | aula13
[17:25] <aula26> nos vamos en  horas na más, jejejeje
[17:25] <jrib> i'm here...
[17:25] <aula14> aaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:25] <erUSUL> jrib: seems like a school doing practices... nicks are classroom[number] (a computer lab probably)
[17:25] <Parsi> how to set 777 permission to an application in ubuntu?
[17:25] <kavurt> I want to establish a remote desktop connection. but both computers are behind NAT. can someone give me a link explaining this situation?
[17:25] <aeon-ltd> parsi: chmod 777
[17:25] <jrib> aula13: #ubuntu for spanish (tell your peers)
[17:25] <seidos> aula13: yo soy en ubuntu-es
[17:25] <ManDay_> Is there any way to preven ubuntu from installing a whole bunch of undesired crap, even with the minmal install?
[17:25] <aeon-ltd> parsi: to the file
[17:25] <Parsi> I installed winRAR in Wine, it has not access to desktop files
[17:25] <Parsi> aeon-ltd: ^^^
[17:25] <jrib> jonaskoelker: and you restarted X?
[17:25] <erUSUL> !rar | Parsi
[17:26] <jonaskoelker> jrib: not since _not changing xorg.conf_
[17:26] <deserteagle> thank you jrib :)
[17:26] <Parsi> erUSUL: i want use winrara, not others :(
[17:26] <jrib> jonaskoelker: then your option is probably no longer used.  Use the .fdi file, that's what the documentation is for
[17:26] <jonaskoelker> jrib: meh :(
[17:27] <jonaskoelker> jrib: oh well, thanks for your help & patience with me :)
[17:27] <aeon-ltd> ManDay: no you can manually uninstall some but most are deemed as 'neccessary' packages
[17:27] <deserteagle> erUSUL, hehe, all I had to do was add a new printer and it showed cups-pdf right off the bat :P
[17:27] <ShawnRisk> hi jrib
[17:27] <erUSUL> deserteagle: ;P
[17:28] <jrib> jonaskoelker: no problem, good luck
[17:28] <jrib> ShawnRisk: hi
[17:28] <aula10> ya toy
[17:28] <aeon-ltd> ManDay_: no you can manually uninstall some but most are deemed as 'neccessary' packages
[17:28] <jrib> aula10: so ingles no #ubuntu.  Para espanol: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:28] <trism> ManDay_: doing the command line install from the alternative cd will not install open-office, or x...only the bare minimum...I thought you already had that though
[17:28] <ManDay_> aeon-ltd, yeah, like open-office impress :-/
[17:29] <ManDay_> trism, I tried the expert minimal install - not the command line one
[17:29] <ManDay_> and there it installs open office without giving me the choice
[17:29] <ManDay_> (besides other stuff)
[17:29] <EZombie> i've a problem, i installed ubuntu server 9 in a pc, and now i move the hard-disk to another pc, but now ubuntu cant see my network interface, i made a "dmesg | grep net" and my net card is there... but if i put "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" dont work! please help!!
[17:29] <aeon-ltd> ManDay_: oh you should do a ground up install from the alternate cd if you want a truly 'light' system
[17:30] <Rprp`> Hello. today i ordered a Supermicro server with a X8STI-F mainboard. I installed Ubuntu and i cant get an internet connection for some reason.. Using ubuntu 9.10 and ' 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10d3] ' - can someone help me please?
[17:30] <kubanc> is there any good video editor, for editing lots of different movie formats ? THNX
[17:30] <jrib> kubanc: try pitivi and kino
[17:31] <ManDay_> aeon-ltd, i thought that was the expert minimal install is supposed to do. but apparently its more a package of bugs than an actual installer :-/
[17:31] <ManDay_> worked fine for jaunty
[17:31] <ShawnRisk> jrib: still having same problem
[17:31] <alvareClrnD> kubanc: openshot and lives too
[17:31] <kubanc> jrib, i can't open .mpeg files with kino
[17:31] <jrib> ShawnRisk: I remember your nick, but not the problem.  What was it again?
[17:32] <ManDay_> great, installer turned useless (red error screen) fourth time in a row
[17:32] <ManDay_> thats really one big pita
[17:32] <genii> Rprp`: Does: lsmod|grep e1000     show that driver loaded?
[17:32] <ShawnRisk> jrib: I can connect sometimes but I can't do anything when I connect.  Trying to get my wireless to work in 9.10
[17:32] <ManDay_> starting aaaaaaaaaall over again
[17:32] <aeon-ltd> ManDay_: if you have a lot of time just go to synaptics or use apt-get and uninstall all you don't need, on my archbox i only have basics like openbox, conky, firefox, urxvt, ncmpcpp+mpd, Irssi, thunar
[17:32] <Nalleman> When i start my computer, i have no password by default. I would like to change this, how?
[17:33] <Neremor> hello!
[17:33] <Neremor> i try to setup my onboard intel realtek soundcard. I installed pulseaudio, which detects the card. I disabled the other pci-card in pulseaudio and set the default card to the onboard one. Now i have sound, but only on the two front speakers. in windows all 6 speakers (5.1) worked without any problems... any idea what i could try?
[17:33] <ManDay_> aeon-ltd, i tried that already, but once i install only the bare essentials and then try to get into aptitude (or whatever dpkg) my system totally freaks out
[17:33] <deus> Anybody got a Radeon R300 card (specificly radeon 9600) to work with TV-out support=
[17:33] <ManDay_> the terminal renders virtually useless
[17:33] <deus> ?
[17:33] <jrib> ShawnRisk: is it a dns isse?
[17:33] <Rprp`> genii: saus e1000e 122124 0
[17:33] <Rprp`> says*
[17:34] <ShawnRisk> jrib: I am not sure what the problem is anymore
[17:34] <jrib> ShawnRisk: can you ping 66.249.91.104?
[17:34] <ShawnRisk> jrib: I have tried like 3 different drivers and the only one that seems to work is the Broadcom B43 wireless driver
[17:34] <aeon-ltd> ManDay_: i don't mean to advertise other distros but there are lighter distros such as free/openbsd, crunchbang, gentoo, arch linux, etc
[17:35] <ShawnRisk> jrib: at least I can connect sometimes but can't do anything
[17:35] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:35] <genii> Rprp`: OK, so the driver is loaded. Is the interface up?   ifconfig      should show (as eth0 or eth1)
[17:35] <Guest94272> does anybody know how to play dvds.I cant seem to play them
[17:35] <ShawnRisk> jrib: network is unreachable
[17:35] <sebsebseb> Guest94272: to play commercial DVD's you need libdvdcss2/3
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  Guest94272
[17:35] <akedemo> Hi
[17:35] <arand> !dvd | Guest94272
[17:35] <Rprp`> genii: shows eth0 and eth1
[17:36] <PolitikerNEU> Hello everyone, I got many problems: I use Ubuntu 9.10 with Gnome and the window decorations for all my KDE-Programs aren't there, if I want to install wine-doors ubuntu wants to remove wine1.2 (but I want to have it - so my question: How do I force leaving a package installed even if dependencies are not fullfilled) and how do I add a startup-script executed as root at every boot?
[17:36] <iceroot> !startup | PolitikerNEU
[17:36] <ShawnRisk> jrib: can I PM you?
[17:36] <PolitikerNEU> !boot
[17:37] <Rprp`> genii: http://www.genovese.nl/uploads/20091130-183625.png screenshot from kvm
[17:37] <jon> can some one help me to get my dvds to play
[17:37] <jrib> ShawnRisk: better to keep it in the channel, I have to go soon anyway; this way others can continue to help
[17:37] <jrib> !dvd > Guest73946
[17:37] <ShawnRisk> jrib: what do I do next?
[17:37] <amarendra> How to install .bin file
[17:37] <amarendra> ?
[17:38] <jrib> ShawnRisk: what driver are you using now?
[17:38] <jrib> amarendra: what do you want to install *exactly*?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> jrib: that was already done in the channel by someone, and to the correct Guest
[17:38] <amarendra> Realplayer
[17:38] <iceroot> amarendra: chmod +x yourfile && ./yourfile
[17:38] <ShawnRisk> jrib: Broadcom B43 wireless driver
[17:38] <erUSUL> amarendra: told you already to get realplayer from medibuntu
[17:38] <genii> Rprp`: OK, both adapters are transmitting and receiving. On the other end, is a DHCP server?
[17:38] <JONDAVIS> HELP me to play my dvds .i cant get them to play or to rip them
[17:38] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | amarendra
[17:38] <jrib> sebsebseb: hmm?
[17:38] <ManDay_> aeon-ltd, i know, thanks. i use gentoo and freebsd besides ubuntu, but i like ubuntu for its repos and user friendlyness (although i know opther distros can be configured to use the ubuntu repos)
[17:38] <iceroot> !dvd | JONDAVIS
[17:38] <jrib> ShawnRisk: from Hardware Drivers?
[17:39] <erUSUL> JONDAVIS: you need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[17:39] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | JONDAVIS
[17:39] <ShawnRisk> jrib: yep
[17:39] <JONDAVIS> i just have ubuntu 9.10
[17:39] <tigerrawrr> hey guys i am getting a ripping soind from my speacker and when i listen to anything with the voice it sounds like a cradles of filth song
[17:39] <jrib> JONDAVIS: read the link ubottu gave you about DVDs
[17:39] <sebsebseb> jrib: nevermind, or see above for what I meant
[17:39] <JONDAVIS> i need a real person to help me out
[17:40] <deserteagle> tigerrawrr, are you sure it's not a hardware problem?
[17:40] <sebsebseb> JONDAVIS: to play commercial DVD's you need libdvdcss2/3
[17:40] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  JONDAVIS
[17:40] <tigerrawrr> it was working this morning and for a time its perfect after a restart
[17:40] <jrib> JONDAVIS: read the link ubottu gave you.  If you don't understand a sentence in the link, ask here about it
[17:40] <JONDAVIS> how do i get it
[17:41] <deserteagle> tigerrawrr, when do you notice this happening?
[17:41] <erUSUL> JONDAVIS: read the link. you add the medibuntu repo to your sources. once you do that you can access all its software from the software center or synaptics
[17:41] <jrib> ShawnRisk: and with this driver it sometimes connects and sometimes doesn't?  What happens when it connects?  You can visit web pages without a problem?
[17:41] <amarendra> Can i get Gtalk for ubuntu?
[17:41] <Rprp`> genii: the server is just connected to my router at home, just installed it. no connection e.d. (testing with desktop, server didnt work also)
[17:41] <jrib> !away > randoms|away
[17:41] <sebsebseb> amarendra: Google Talk, sadly not
[17:41] <PolitikerNEU> hmm ... and how can I add new services in bum?
[17:41] <erUSUL> !software | JONDAVIS if you are new reading some docs is unvoidable
[17:41] <JONDAVIS> my dvds are copy protected and will not play
[17:42] <tigerrawrr> right after i installed adobe flash
[17:42] <sebsebseb> amarendra:  I have tried to get it working in Wine before, didn't work properly, I assume that will probably be the case now as well
[17:42] <jrib> JONDAVIS: they will if you listen to what people tell you
[17:42] <tigerrawrr> today
[17:42] <sebsebseb> amarendra: there's Pidgin and Empathy and Kopete for Jabber/Gmail/GoogleTalk anyway
[17:42] <JONDAVIS> then jrib you help me out
[17:42] <ShawnRisk> jrib: Right, it sometimes connects and sometimes it doesn't.  As for when it connects there is no signal, even if I am right next to the router.
[17:42] <deserteagle> amarendra, empathy (the im client that comes with ubuntu) has google chat compatibility
[17:42] <jrib> JONDAVIS: I did already
[17:42] <sebsebseb> amarendra: if you really want it, with enough RAM and such, you could virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu for it
[17:42] <jrib> ShawnRisk: what card?
[17:43] <genii> Rprp`: If the router is handing out IP numbers then something like:  sudo dhclient eth0     (or eth1) will get the machine a number
[17:43] <ShawnRisk> jrib: at the moment I am connected
[17:43] <amarendra> does empathy supports file sending option
[17:43] <amarendra> in gtlka
[17:43] <tigerrawrr> do sny solution to this
[17:43] <ShawnRisk> jrib: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[17:43] <sebsebseb> amarendra: don't know, but you could try for yourself
[17:43] <lch> hey, I have set up a LVM with the following volume groups: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153843/ -- Now I want to move all the volumes from /dev/sdb3 to /dev/sda5, how do I do that?
[17:43] <deserteagle> amarendra, yes, it does
[17:44] <amarendra> ok
[17:44] <Rprp`> genii: thnx, gonna give that a try
[17:44] <genii> Rprp`:  The connectivity issue seems to be whatever the router/switch/whatever it's plugged into. Because: driver is loaded, interface(s) are active, interfaces are receiving and transmitting data
[17:44] <jrib> ShawnRisk: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/421095
[17:45] <Nalleman> Does rsync delete files that is in destination folder but not in source folder?
[17:45] <amarendra> "Failed to execute child process" This was the measssage shown when i opened rea player
[17:45] <ShawnRisk> jrib: looking
[17:45] <jrib> JONDAVIS: if you read the link ubottu gave you about DVDs you will be able to watch your commercial DVDs
[17:45] <deserteagle> isn't there a repository of kernel packages?
[17:46] <jrib> deserteagle: the main repository has the kernel packages
[17:46] <deserteagle> Nalleman, depends on how you set up the command, iirc
[17:46] <dalekx> hola se me cierra el firefox kuando ingreso algun foro php y me sale en terminal Fallo de segmentación
[17:46] <dalekx>  a ke se debera?
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !es | dalekx
[17:46] <deserteagle> jrib, i mean, for older kernels
[17:46] <sameer> hi! m using ubuntu 9.10. when i connect to internet using USB Modem of my mobile. i get invalid password error in gnome ppp. actually my ISP has given blank user & password specification.pl help me to connect
[17:46] <Rprp`> genii: everything is working fine, got 3 other pc's connected to the router.. So.. just received this new server today, so i am trying to install it. Ill give that 'dhclient' a shot when its booted up ;p
[17:46] <jrib> deserteagle: maybe in the kernelteam's ppa, I don't know
[17:46] <tigerrawrr> reguarding my spekers i have no problems on my windows install
[17:47] <jrib> deserteagle: but the main repository keep the packages for the different kernel versions
[17:47] <MaXubuntu> hello guys
[17:47] <mrbook> m
[17:48] <MaXubuntu> i need some help im new  with ubuntu i need a p2p program for ubuntu
[17:48] <MaXubuntu> can somebody recomend something nice?
[17:48] <erUSUL> MaXubuntu: which network ?
[17:48] <deserteagle> MaXubuntu, nicotine-plus
[17:48] <MaXubuntu> any i just whant to download music =S
[17:48] <MaXubuntu> i used to use Ares be4
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  MaXubuntu
[17:48] <erUSUL> MaXubuntu: BT; edonkey ; gnutella ?
[17:49] <Rprp`> genii: still nothing. :( http://www.genovese.nl/uploads/20091130-184822.png
[17:49] <Rprp`> genii: all other devices connected to the router are working
[17:49] <sameer> hi! i m trying to connect to internet from my mobile via USB using Gnome PPP. But i getblank password error.actually my ISP has given blank user & password specification. pls guide
[17:49] <sebsebseb> MaXubuntu: There is also free open  music, but I doubt your wanting to download that
[17:49] <Rprp`> genii: its a server with 3 LAN ports, and IPMI 2.0 enabled (Supermicro)
[17:49] <genii> Rprp`: The "router" ... is it in bridged mode?
[17:49] <dAlfa89_> Whenever I try to shut down the laptop, a load of funky colours and lines come up (As if it were an overheating problem), if I switch between a cli runlevel and the graphical one, it doesn't do it (Except when first using the cli runlevel), any ideas why it's happening?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> MaXubuntu: Creative Commons
[17:51] <Rprp`> genii: dunno, its just a simple router i bought a few years ago, but is doing the job. I have also run Ubuntu a few times on my desktop computer. Today received the server, and i just cant get a network connection with it.. Debian doesnt work also.. but remote is working (IPMI stuff), because i am KVM over IP'ing it..
[17:51] <donri> how can i see what explicitly installed package pulled a specific package?
[17:52] <kubanc> is there a ppa for pulseaudio for ubuntu 8.04 ?
[17:52] <sebsebseb> kubanc: maybe
[17:52] <mhadmin01> hi i need some help
[17:52] <sebsebseb> kubanc: ,but pulseaudio has been an issue for many since Ubuntu 8.04
[17:52] <mhadmin01> im a newbee
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !ask |  mhadmin01
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !new |  mhadmin01
[17:53] <Rprp`> genii: nvm, got it working. wrong port. Was using the 'ipmi' port instead the ethernet port. sigh.. thnx anyway ;-)
[17:53] <genii> Rprp`: Glad it got sorted
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !details |  kubanc
[17:53] <Nalleman> How can I enable password as default at login?
[17:54] <ShawnRisk> jrib: I think that is for STA Driver and I am using B43 Driver
[17:54] <jrib> ShawnRisk: I believe the driver in Hardware Drivers is the STA driver
[17:54] <ratatim> I can't mount a USB Flash Drive in any of my ports. I receive this message when I try "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'."   What should i do?
[17:54] <jrib> ShawnRisk: at least that's what happens on my macbook
[17:54] <mhadmin01> when i share a folder on home named jobs all going well but when pc1 access archive.dwg en the file and saves
[17:54] <ShawnRisk> jrib: there are two different drivers.
[17:54] <mhadmin01> pc 2 cannot open
[17:54] <mhadmin01> just on real only vmode
[17:55] <sebsebseb> mhadmin01: I am not sure what you mean, your using Samba?
[17:55] <sameer> hi! using OS-Ubuntu 9.10. want to connect to internet from my mobile via usb ON gnome ppp. problem- blank passoerd error (actually my ISP has given blank specification for user name & password) pl guide
[17:55] <kubanc> i don't know if it is a problem, but when i was installing LiVES a got this on my terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/331856/ is this a problem, or NO?
[17:55] <mahngiel> any idea why i wouldn't be able to connect to wifi from icewm, but can from metacity?
[17:56] <mhadmin01> yes im using samba
[17:56] <ShawnRisk> jrib: what else should I do?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> !samba |  mhadmin01
[17:56] <hRb> hi everyone
[17:56] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> jajaja jodida madre
[17:56] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> xD.
[17:56] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> Que pedo aqi
[17:56]  * mahngiel waves to hRb
[17:56] <sebsebseb> mhadmin01: keep it in the channel,  I don't know Samba tha well, except for the very basics
[17:56] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> quien me la chupa?
[17:56] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> xD.
[17:56] <hRb> having a little odd issue with ssh proxy
[17:56] <LjL> !ops | Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_
[17:57] <hRb> thanks for the wave mahngiel  :]
[17:57] <mahngiel> !es | Xx_[S[cReAmE[R]_
[17:57] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> thanks
[17:57] <ratatim> ﻿I can't mount a USB Flash Drive in any of my ports. I receive this message when I try "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'."   What should i do?
[17:57] <Rioting_Pacifist> What is the name of the tool that lets you change a filesystem without enough freespace to do it by creating a new partition?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> LjL: Why?
[17:57] <mhadmin01> the scenary is ubuntu server and all workstation using windows xp because they draw on autocad 2009
[17:57] <mahngiel> any idea why i wouldn't be able to connect to wifi from icewm, but can from metacity?
[17:57] <LjL> sebsebseb: google translate would tell you
[17:57] <Rioting_Pacifist> or does anybody now how to move data from lvm to the disc itself?
[17:57] <hRb> I start a tunnel as always with an interactive session....as long as  I don't use the proxy there are no issues, but as soon as I pbegin passing traffic over the proxy, my session hangs and the proxy starts failing
[17:57] <mhadmin01> and when WS1 opens 1.dwg and saves
[17:58] <jpds> sebsebseb: The LjL is right.
[17:58] <rhorse> mahngiel: how are you doing it in icewm and how in metacity?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> LjL: Thought that was it,  that they were saying something that's against the rules
[17:58] <eeriku> hi ppl
[17:58] <hRb> I have to kill the term and start over again but it happens everytime, as soon as use the proxy
[17:58] <eeriku> im editing crontab
[17:58] <eeriku> added 1 sh file there
[17:58] <mhadmin01> WS2 only can open the file in read'only mode
[17:58] <mahngiel> rhorse: it auto connects in metacity, but doesn't in icewm
[17:58] <eeriku> but when time is right
[17:58] <eeriku> nothing happends
[17:58] <hRb> what gives?  both are OSSH 5.1p1
[17:58] <MenZa> Adding a cronjob as root would be as simple as sudo crontab -e, right?
[17:58] <FloodBot1> eeriku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <eeriku> im editing as sudo
[17:59] <mahngiel> rhorse: but if i switch to icewm from terminal, i can use it jsut fine
[17:59] <sameer> hi! m using UBUNTU 9.10. Want to connect to internet from my mobile via USB using GNOME PPP. I get blank password errror.actually my ISP has given user name & password to be blank.please help me...
[17:59] <sebsebseb> LjL: or for some reason you did it instead of !es or whatever
[17:59] <eeriku> and with -e command
[17:59] <Neremor> hello!
[17:59] <eeriku> and .sh as made executable
[17:59] <mahngiel> !bit-sdm | sameer
[17:59] <jrib> ShawnRisk: check bugs.ubuntu.com for issues with that other driver as well and see if the comments offer any insight
[17:59] <eeriku> so can anyone help
[17:59] <sebsebseb> mhadmin01: chat here
[17:59] <mhadmin01> somebody can explainme how to repair
[17:59] <sebsebseb> mhadmin01: ask about Samba and that here
[18:00] <sebsebseb> !pm > mhadmin01
[18:00] <rhorse> right, mahngiel. You need to include a startup script to start your wifi in icewm, apparantly that isn't being done.
[18:00] <ratatim> Can someone help me mount a USB flash drive? I keep getting this error:  "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'."
[18:00] <Paul4> hello, ive got and AMD x2 4000+ , 1gb of ddr2 800 RAM and a ati HD2600XT graphic card. For some reason when i instal drivers the card begins to suck, movies are shocking. HOW COME, which driver should i use?
[18:00] <Paul4> thnx!
[18:01] <Neremor> I've a onboard intel soundcard (realtek) which supports my whole 5.1 system in windows. In (K)Ubuntu I only get sound out of the front speakers. I'm using pulseaudio with the alsa-plugin. alsa redirects sound to pulseaudio. any ideas what to do?
[18:01] <Nalleman> Hi all, I need help with enable password prompt at login. Right now I get directly to the desktop, but I would like to improve security a little...
[18:01] <sebsebseb> mhadmin01: in  fact I probably can't help you as such, so not much good pm'ing me
[18:01] <mahngiel> rhorse: ya, well, at this point, i just want metacity back to normal. it doesn't seem to be operating right. and i get get gnome-desktop-environment to install. says a dependency is uninstallable
[18:01] <sameer> hi! m using UBUNTU 9.10. Want to connect to internet from my mobile via USB using GNOME PPP. I get blank password errror.actually my ISP has given user name & password to be blank.please help me...
[18:01] <jrib> Nalleman: should be in gdm setup
[18:01] <ubuntu_904> how to format a drive
[18:01] <jrib> ubuntu_904: gparted
[18:02] <Nalleman> jrib, is that a file?
[18:02] <ubuntu_904> no i want to do it via Terminal
[18:02] <jrib> Nalleman: it's a program
[18:02] <Paul4> I asked my question like 100 times today, can somebody please help me!
[18:02] <ubuntu_904> sudo mkfs -v fat32 someting
[18:02] <jrib> Nalleman: System -> Administration -> Login Window I think
[18:02] <hRb> Linux users do it in the terminal.
[18:02] <jrib> ubuntu_904: read the man page then
[18:02] <hRb> :]
[18:02] <ubuntu_904> man what ?
[18:02] <rhorse> mahngiel: It's weird because the wifi script should start before the WM does.
[18:02] <jrib> ubuntu_904: usually man command_i_want_to_learn_about
[18:02] <sebsebseb> Pudgy: those kind of cards tend to get issues with Ubuntu, that's about all I know when it comes to that
[18:03] <sebsebseb> Pudgy: uh wrong one
[18:03] <jack_daniels> a
[18:03] <sebsebseb> Paul4: see above
[18:03] <JONDAVIS> i have read the info.but i am still not abile to get my dvds to play.some one need to help me out
[18:03] <ubuntu_904> hmm ok
[18:03] <jack_daniels> kukum hy une kshtu  bre no
[18:03] <Nalleman> jrib, thanks.
[18:03] <rhorse> mahngiel: but it's easy to do, once you know how
[18:03] <ShawnRisk> jrib: I am going for lunch
[18:03] <UserC> n
[18:03] <jrib> ShawnRisk: me too, enjoy
[18:03] <mahngiel> rhorse: well, i'm up sh!t creek right now. i'm just frustrated
[18:03] <sebsebseb> Paul4: also try and get from the repo, or you might get issues
[18:03] <jack_daniels> rhorse,  haw are you baby
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !ati |  Paul4
[18:03] <jrib> ubuntu_904: the "something" is the block device corresponding to your partition (something like /dev/sdXn)
[18:03] <ubuntu_904> hmm
[18:04] <ubuntu_904> ok.. onto man mkfs
[18:04] <Paul4> thnx!
[18:04] <UserC> m
[18:04] <LasBuntu> hiya
[18:04] <LasBuntu> is there any easy way to get a list of additional packages i've installed?
[18:04] <rhorse> jack_daniels: I'm fine baby
[18:04] <ManDay_> is there a meta package for gnome?
[18:04] <dAlfa89_> Whenever I try to shut down the laptop, a load of funky colours and lines come up (As if it were an overheating problem), if I switch between a cli runlevel and the graphical one, it doesn't do it (Except when first using the cli runlevel), any ideas why it's happening?
[18:04] <Paul4> well i installed the envy driver, uninstalled, i activated the hardware driver thingy, and i installed the ati drivers from ati.com but it didnt help
[18:04] <mahngiel> rhorse: metacity isn't drawing the windows properly. i have no min, max, close buttons, cannot resize, and cannot alt+tab. basically, i'm running a flat win mgr
[18:04] <sameer> no one here to help me out....?
[18:05] <jack_daniels> very nice baby  rhorse
[18:05] <sameer> hi! m using UBUNTU 9.10. Want to connect to internet from my mobile via USB using GNOME PPP. I get blank password errror.actually my ISP has given user name & password to be blank.please help me...
[18:05] <sebsebseb> Paul4: uhmm good luck
[18:05] <mahngiel> sameer: doesn't seem like anybody has the info you're looking for sameer
[18:05] <Paul4> thnx
[18:05] <mahngiel> sameer: might want to talk to your provider
[18:06] <sameer> mahngiel : spoken to my ISP....they repeat it should be blank. works fine in windows
[18:06] <ratatim> I keep getting this error : "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'." when trying to mount my flash drive. I know the ports work because they mount my usb mouse. What should i DO?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> sameer: just, because something works in Windows, does not mean that it will on Ubuntu
[18:07] <JONDAVIS> hay people i need some one who know how to play dvds and get them to play i am liveing in the usa
[18:07] <JONDAVIS> help
[18:07] <mahngiel> sameer: could be something in the program code requiring a user/pass. if you can get into the code and change it? i don't really know
[18:07] <jrib> JONDAVIS: did you read the link ubottu gave you yet?
[18:07] <JONDAVIS> yes
[18:07] <JONDAVIS> i did not luck
[18:07] <jrib> JONDAVIS: good.  Did you do what it told you to?
[18:07] <jrib> JONDAVIS: what did you do exactly?
[18:07] <ppp> sameer: you will have to modify the code so that the blanc password check is not done
[18:08] <JONDAVIS> 'i type in what needs and it still not play
[18:08] <ubuntu_904> when i try mkfs.vfat /media/disk it says unable to open
[18:08] <jrib> JONDAVIS: what did you type?
[18:08] <jrib> !who | JONDAVIS
[18:08] <rhorse> mahngiel: just delete the following dir's in your home dir: .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2, .metacity. I think that should bring you to a default state.
[18:08] <ubuntu_904> no uck file or directory
[18:08] <sameer> mahngiel : i m not expert to edit codes in ubuntu
[18:08] <sameer> mahngiel : i m a basic user
[18:08] <jrib> ubuntu_904: because /media/disk is not a block device...
[18:08] <genii> ubuntu_904: You need to format the /dev/devicename  and not the mountpoint
[18:09] <jrib> ubuntu_904: you should unmount it too
[18:09] <mahngiel> rhorse: ok, so then when i don't have any wm... what do i do?
[18:09] <ubuntu_904> hmm ok
[18:09] <armornick> ubuntu_904: why not use gparted?
[18:09] <rhorse> mahngiel: no, that won't harm it. Gnome will create new ones for you.
[18:09] <JONDAVIS> i have read the info that you guys have gave me and i did some sodo apt get install stuff
[18:09] <ubuntu_904> nah i want to try on Terminal only :)
[18:09] <hmca> i have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and i'm afraid the system wont boot , cant i just switch to runlevel 0? and then runlevel 2 again and be running the new system ?
[18:09] <luist> whats the macedonian ubuntu channel?
[18:09] <mahngiel> JONDAVIS: just use synaptic, everything is in there
[18:10] <JONDAVIS> how
[18:10] <armornick> ubuntu_904: there's future for the linux world after all :D
[18:10] <jrib> JONDAVIS: pastebin what you typed and the full output.  And please use my nick if you want my attention
[18:10] <jrib> !pastebin | JONDAVIS
[18:10] <deserteagle> JONDAVIS, System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[18:10] <sebsebseb> hmca: Many peopel got issues after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10,  plus if you were on Ext3 9.04 you won't get Ext4 on upgrade, and  you won't get Grub 2 on upgrade either.  Try a clean install :)
[18:11] <ubuntu_904> yes armornick i hope so :) keep ur fingers crossed !! ;)
[18:11] <sebsebseb> hmca: and when you got your ISO, if you got it from a torrent it's probably fine the download,  if from HTTP/FTP you might want to do a md5sum/sha1sum both even, to make sure you got a good download
[18:11] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > hmca
[18:11] <GodFazha> thank god I didnt update yet :>
[18:11] <mahngiel> rhorse: i'm just going to uninstall all the other wm's i have first, see if that gets me anywhere
[18:11] <sebsebseb> GodFazha: nothing in 9.10 that is really worth it anyway, if running 9.04
[18:12] <rhorse> mahngiel: it sounds like you need to revert to default state. What I said will do that.
[18:12] <ratatim> deserteagle: How do I go about mounting a USB drive? I keep getting this message on all ports:  "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'."
[18:12] <seidos> i've been having difficulty with an iso of ubuntu hardy i burned.  this is the 2nd time i've had a bad cd.
[18:12] <mahngiel> rhorse: i'll do that momentarily. just as soon as i dump thiss other crap
[18:12] <GodFazha> sebsebseb, I'm running 9.04 x64 atm, was a female dog to get flash and everything else to work, I'd rather stay on the safe side for now :P
[18:12] <seidos> it just freezes when i try to boot from it
[18:12] <jozefk> where is the ~/.mc folder with ini and other files in Ubuntu located?
[18:13] <rhorse> mahngiel: good show! Let me know how it worked out.
[18:13] <jograd> hi. good morning everyone. i need help on integrating postfix and squirrelmail. i've successfully installed postfix, dovecot, and squireelmail but they aren't integrated wherein when i create a new mail user in the server, that user couldn't log in using squirrelmail still. i've followed the ubuntu tutorial to the teeth. may anyone help me please?
[18:13] <ubuntu_904> cool i formatted.. sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdxx
[18:13] <sebsebseb> GodFazha: I suggest doing a clean install of 10.04 though, when that's out,  assuming you got Ext3 on 9.04 which you will have by default,  plus how you won't get Grub 2 on upgrade, and how sometimes some bad settings are left behind after an upgrade that then cause problems later on
[18:13] <deserteagle> jograd, wish I could help, but I have NO clue what you're talking about :(
[18:14] <armornick> hey, does anyone know about an xchat channel?
[18:14] <jograd> hi deserteagle, may i explain further?
[18:14] <ubuntu_904> thanks once again guy
[18:14] <GodFazha> armornick, #xchat
[18:14] <ubuntu_904> guys*
[18:14] <plague> evening
[18:14] <sebsebseb> GodFazha: ok well really for many 9.04  is better than 9.10
[18:14] <deserteagle> jograd, i'm afraid I won't be of help, as I honestly don't have a clue as to anything you just mentioned, best of luck though!
[18:15] <GodFazha> That seems the right thing to do sebsebseb =) have to do a clean install sometime anyway, ubuntu was supposed to dual boot with win7 but it removed the ntldr
[18:15] <eeriku> can somone pls help me with that crontab problem?
[18:15] <armornick> GodFazha: thanks
[18:15] <ratatim> ﻿sebsebseb: ﻿How do I go about mounting a USB drive? I keep getting this message on all ports:  "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'KINGSTON'." Sorry if i'm being a bother
[18:15] <GodFazha> But O well, I hardly ever use any windows apps ~_~
[18:15] <jozefk> where is the ~/.mc folder with ini and other files in Ubuntu located?
[18:16] <plague> hmmm question: to change screen resolutions in karmic I'd use System->Preferences-> Display correct?
[18:16] <Leoneof`> hola
[18:16] <sebsebseb> ratatim: not sure, but in 9.10?
[18:16] <deserteagle> ratatim, is your ubuntu stock?
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !es |  lengend
[18:16] <ratatim> 8.04 i'm sorry
[18:16] <sebsebseb> lengend: wrong one
[18:16] <GodFazha> O btw sebsebseb something else I wanted to ask, what's a good program to unrar files? I downloaded some rar files the other day and I tried several and it just gave me errors trying to unrar them, I had to resort to using windows
[18:16] <Pandit> Yes, you change it there
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !es |  Leoneof`
[18:16] <mahngiel> rhorse: okay, del'd all but .metacity, doesn't seem to be in ~ for me. should i restart or update?
[18:16] <GodFazha> tried several programs*
[18:16] <deserteagle> plague, as far as I know, yeah
[18:16] <plague> Pandit what if the resolution I want isn't listed though?
[18:16] <armornick> GodFazha: it should be possible with the default archiver after you install the unrar package
[18:16] <sebsebseb> ratatim: nots ure, but it should just work as far as I know
[18:17] <ratatim> deserteagle: it used to mount but i did a clean install downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04 it stopped working
[18:17] <deserteagle> plauge: you'd have to add it
[18:17] <rhorse> mahngiel: ya, restart the desktop by signing in again. No need to reboot.
[18:17] <plague> ok let me have a look
[18:17]  * mahngiel crosses fingers
[18:17] <sebsebseb> ratatim: 8.10 to 8.04 why?
[18:17] <deserteagle> ratatim, it isn't listed as a bug in 8.04?
[18:17] <ratatim> sebsebseb: at the time i could get more support.
[18:17] <Pandit> O_o
[18:18] <ratatim> deserteagle: yeah that's why i'm confused
[18:18] <sebsebseb> ratatim: more support with what?  or do you just mean how 8.04 is supported for longer than 8.10?
[18:18] <ratatim> sebsebseb: i could find more information on the ubuntu forums for 8.04.
[18:18] <sebsebseb> ratatim: 8.10 is sadly on the verge of running out of support, it has been a rather good release for many people :)
[18:18] <Pericius> i'm installing 9.10 and the partition manager shows no discs
[18:18] <benste> how can I use apport-bug to upload a *.crash to an existing bug on LP ?
[18:18] <Pericius> what could be the issue?
[18:19] <GodFazha> armornick, thanks mate :D it works now
[18:19] <deserteagle> ratatim, have you tried unmounting via superuser?
[18:19] <deserteagle> (sudo unmount...)
[18:19] <sebsebseb> ratatim: ok well that makes sense for two reasons, it was released before  8.10, and it's also a Long Term Support release
[18:19] <armornick> GodFazha: no problem ;)
[18:19] <Neremor> hello!
[18:19] <geitenneuker> määäh
[18:19] <sebsebseb> ratatim: by the way if you stay on 8.04 untill 10.04 comes out, you will be able to directly upgrade to it, however you won't get Ext4 or Grub 2 on upgrade
[18:19] <deserteagle> hey!
[18:19] <ratatim> sebsebseb: I'm going to upgrade to 8.10 and eventually on up to 9.10. I just don't have a CD Drive and have to use USB to upgrade. though my usb drives won't mount anything
[18:19] <Neremor> i'm using an onboard intel soundcard and try to setup my 5.1 system. I only hear sound on the front two speakers. any idea whats wrong?
[18:20] <sebsebseb> ratatim: 10.04  is the next LTS released at the end of April
[18:20] <sebsebseb> ratatim: no I woudn't recommend doing that
[18:20] <ratatim> deserteagle: sorry no i haven't. i don't know how
[18:20] <sebsebseb> ratatim: stay on 8.04 and upgrade directly to 10.04 when it's time, or clean install, that's a good idea
[18:20] <sebsebseb> ratatim: plus many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[18:20] <deserteagle> clean install has been better than upgrades, in my experience
[18:21] <ratatim> sebsebseb: There is a problem... my usb ports wont mount anything so I'm stuck on 8.04 until i figure this out
[18:21] <aeon-ltd> deserteagle: +1 keep config files and separate /home
[18:21] <deserteagle> Neremor, have you checked the sound panel to make sure all speakers are enabled?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> ratatim: or untill 10.04 is out, and you can run the upgrade
[18:21] <Neremor> yes, all speakers are enabled
[18:21] <armornick> does anyone use a dell mini 10v?
[18:21] <deserteagle> aeon-ltd, yeh, i usually back up my home dir to save all config files
[18:22] <sebsebseb> ratifers: however maybe you got a USB hardware issue hmm
[18:22] <ratatim> deserteagle: how is it I unmount from superuser or whatever you were saying? Is this a step in fixing my usb ports?
[18:22] <Neremor> the problem is that the rear speakers have to be connected to the mic-in jack and the center/lfe speakers have to be connected to the line-in jack... in windows this works, but in linux it doesn't
[18:22] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:22] <ratatim> sebsebseb: haha i just want to use my usb ports
[18:22] <deserteagle> ratatim, i don't know if it will fix your ports, but sometimes it helps in unmounting devices that your user hasn't mounted
[18:22] <sebsebseb> ratatim: 8.04 has quite a lot of support left, and it's a good release
[18:22] <BeNdAbLe> I have a question about Karmic's upstart.  For services with an /etc/init.d/ script, those scripts now have what looks like metadata (i.e. stuff between lines marked with '### BEGIN INIT INFO' and '### END INIT INFO').  Is this stuff just there for comments, or is this actually being parsed and used by upstart?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> ratatim: well loasd of us got pulseaudio issues for example, but other then that, it was fine for me :)
[18:23] <ratatim> deserteagle: how do I unmount?
[18:23] <deserteagle> what directory is it in?
[18:23] <eeriku> can somone help me with crontab heree pls?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> ratatim: ,but then I wanted Ext4 and other later features so yep, bye bye 8.04
[18:23] <rgs_> any ideas on how to make (audio|visual) bells on irssi over SSH work?
[18:23] <ratatim> deserteagle: you're talking to a newb practically. I'm sorry. how do i figure that out?
[18:24] <BeNdAbLe> eeriku, What about crontab
[18:24] <ratatim> sebsebseb: i haven't had very many problems with 8.04 other than this whole usb thing
[18:24] <LasBuntu> is there any easy way to get a list of additional packages i've installed? I need to clone a new install
[18:24] <sebsebseb> ratatim: ok
[18:24] <rhorse> mahngiel: how's it going?
[18:24] <deserteagle> ratatim, open the usb stick directory
[18:24] <deserteagle> the folder
[18:24] <hRb> eeriku, what's the problem?
[18:24] <BeNdAbLe> lasbuntu -- Try: dpkg-query --show
[18:24] <eeriku> i have .sh file in glftpd dir
[18:24] <maniek> hello everybody
[18:24] <deserteagle> hello
[18:24] <eeriku> if i run it in terminal it works
[18:25] <ratatim> deserteagle: when i click on the file under the "places" directory it just says "cannot mount volume"
[18:25] <sebsebseb> ratatim: well since 8.04, 8.10 has been my favourite release overall,  it lacks Ext4 though
[18:25] <eeriku> if i edit crontab as sudo
[18:25] <hRb> eeriku, go on...
[18:25] <eeriku> it aint work
[18:25] <maniek> i have a problem with server entrance, somebody help me?
[18:25] <eeriku> i have like daystats.sh
[18:25] <hRb> you run this script at root?
[18:25] <eeriku> and i edit cronatb like sudo nano /ect/cronatb -e
[18:25] <Um_cara_qualquer> does somebody knows how uninstall wallpaper clock ?
[18:25] <hRb> ok
[18:25] <LasBuntu> Bek: thanks
[18:25] <eeriku> and first nubers is mins right and 2 is hours
[18:26] <LasBuntu> er Ben
[18:26] <BeNdAbLe> Cron jobs run in a restricted environment that's different from your user login environment.  Chances are you just need to edit your script to set up paths and/or environment variables.
[18:26] <eeriku> i have dont everything correct i assume
[18:26] <eeriku> but nothing
[18:26] <deserteagle> ratatim, i would need more information to help you, but I'm leaving right now unfortunately
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ratatim: as for unmouting your USB devices,  right click on the desktop and unmount, for example, if it's there
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ratatim: right click on the icon on the desktop I meant
[18:26] <deserteagle> best of luck!
[18:26] <ratatim> deserteagle: thanks for your help thus far
[18:26] <ratatim> sebsebseb: i'll see if an icon is there
[18:27] <maniek> when i'm tryin to connect to ftp server i'm getting info about redirect loop
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ratatim: also if  mounted, there will probably be one in places I think
[18:27] <BeNdAbLe> eeriku: Cron jobs run in a restricted environment that's different from your user login environment.  Chances are you just need to edit your script to set up paths and/or environment variables.
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ratatim: the places menu
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ratatim: as well as in computer
[18:27] <shyko> hello ubunters!
[18:27] <ratatim> sebsebseb: there isn't an Icon on my desktop. And when i right click it on the "places" menu screen it just says "cannot mount volume"
[18:27] <Reeck_> rhorse: okay bad advice. lost all gui
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ratatim: ok well stick around a bit, repeate your issue, and someone else may be able to help you
[18:28] <Reeck_> how do i access my trash?
[18:28] <Reeck_> and restore folders from the cmd line?
[18:28] <ratatim> sebsebseb: also i don't have the option to unmount in the computer menu. Just mount
[18:28] <sebsebseb> ratatim: ok well mount them
[18:28] <maniek> i can get on the ftp server by cuteftp for example but i wan't change the password, what should i do??
[18:28] <sebsebseb> ratatim: mount means use it
[18:28] <sebsebseb> ratatim: unmount means, don't use it anymore
[18:28] <ratatim> sebsebseb: it tells me it can't mount
[18:28] <shyko> I'm looking for a new HD to my laptop, does anyone have suggestions?
[18:29] <ratatim> sebsebseb: it says there is an invalid mount option
[18:29] <dAlfa89_> Whenever I try to shut down the laptop, a load of funky colours and lines come up (As if it were an overheating problem), if I switch between a cli runlevel and the graphical one, it doesn't do it (Except when first using the cli runlevel), any ideas why it's happening?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> !ot |  shyko
[18:29] <Reeck_> shyko: just go to newegg.com
[18:29] <Reeck_> need cmd line prompt for trash bin and restoring folders
[18:30] <armornick> hey, does anyone know where I can read the xchat logs?
[18:30] <seidos> shyko: did your old one break?  or are you adding one?
[18:30] <sebsebseb> armornick: no, but this channel is publically logged
[18:30] <oCean_> armornick: see /home/armornick/.xchat2/scrollback
[18:30] <maniek> anybody?? how to change ftp pass without acces to webadmin
[18:30] <armornick> sebsebseb, oCean_: thanks ;)
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !logs | armornick
[18:31] <shyko> seidos, I'm replacing
[18:31] <mr_moh> Ask me a question
[18:31] <ratatim> sebsebseb: its telling me when i try to mount that there is an invalid mount option
[18:31] <rhorse> Reeck_: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:31] <sebsebseb> ratatim: I don't know, you will need someone else to help you
[18:31] <Reeck_> rhorse: i don't have a broadband connection. it's wifi
[18:31] <ratatim> sebsebseb: thanks anyway.
[18:31] <Reeck_> rhorse: unless you know how to activate that from prompt?
[18:31] <mr_moh> Just ask me a question
[18:31] <aula13> hay alguien ahi?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> !troll |  mr_moh
[18:32] <itek1970> can someone help me? how do you mount an IDE NTFS hd in ubuntu?
[18:32] <rhorse> sure do! Reeck_ it's simpler if you turn encryption off temporarily, can you do that?
[18:32] <magmarules> guys i have enabled compiz in my desktop, but the compiz config ui doesnt want to boot. Is there a way i can check why its not booting ?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> !es |  aula13
[18:32] <sebsebseb> !pt |  aula13
[18:32] <mr_moh> Fuck u ubutto
[18:32] <sebsebseb> !ops |  mr_moh
[18:32] <maniek> hey, anybody wanna beer? just help me...
[18:32] <Reeck_> rhorse: don't think so. i live in a hotel, so it feeds off their wifi and uses a browser prompt for key code
[18:32] <oCean_> !ntfs | itek1970
[18:33] <Neremor> alsa seems to only support the front speakers via my sound card... it's a soundcard with three outputs, where two of them are also used as input. i think alsa handels them as input and not as output, so i don't get sound via this two output slots... any idea hwo to solve that?
[18:33] <itek1970> thanks guys
[18:33] <mr_moh> Wech zebi !!!
[18:34] <mneptok> mr_moh: please watch your language
[18:34] <rhorse> Reeck_: ok go to a terminal and type iwconfig. What do you see?
[18:34] <Reeck_> rhorse: i have to open the browser each time i swith OS and enter the code
[18:34] <mr_moh> Ok mr mneptok i respect u
[18:34] <Reeck_> rhorse: it tells me it's there, but no connection
[18:34] <Reeck_> rhorse: i'm in windows atm. so i can't speak out
[18:34] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone help with this? I'm trying to set up a script that does 2 things: 1) creates an SSH connection with port forwarding, and then 2) launches a remote desktop session that connects to the forwarded port. I've tested the two steps individually and the RD connection works as long as the SSH session is open, but when I put them in a script together the SSH session is closed before the RD...
[18:34] <l337ingDisorder> ...connection is made. Anyone know how to tell bash to keep the SSH session open while it runs the RD connection?
[18:35] <srikanthm__> hi
[18:35] <benste> NO one knows how to add a crash report to an existing LP bug ?
[18:35] <mr_moh> But unottu is not fair
[18:35] <mr_moh> I dont like his comments
[18:35] <mahngiel> i think it would be easier if i restored the files from the trash bin
[18:35] <armornick> mr_moh: ubottu is a bot
[18:35] <mr_moh> Why is he so hard ?
[18:35] <zwanzig> hey, i've got a little problem. My ISP doesn't add my mac to mac-list on the router, so i haven't internet. Precisly port 80 is blocked. Someone know how can i change browsing net port:80 to any other?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> mr_moh: she
[18:36] <sebsebseb> !gender |  mr_moh
[18:36] <mahngiel> hahahaha
[18:36] <cephalopoid> hello
[18:36] <mahngiel> hi
[18:36] <sebsebseb> mr_moh: Do you have a support question?  Why are you here?
[18:36] <JONDAVIS> ubottu are you a female bot
[18:36] <mr_moh> Ok
[18:37] <armornick> lol, best. bot. evar. :D
[18:37] <cephalopoid> I'm trying to get my tv-out to work with my tv, so far no success getting it to work in the xorg.conf
[18:37] <LjL> !ot
[18:37] <mr_moh> I have no question only solution
[18:37] <zwanzig> can someone help me ?
[18:37] <sebsebseb> mr_moh: solutions for what?
[18:38] <ShawnRisk> I can't figure out why my wireless connection isn't working.  I need solution.  The only driver that works for me a little is the Broadcom B43 wireless driver.  How come it will not stop asking me the password?
[18:38] <ShawnRisk> jrib: hi
[18:38] <JONDAVIS> hay i need some help on seting up my dvd player to run dvds.but there not working
[18:38] <mr_moh> What you want just ask me your question
[18:38] <JONDAVIS> i need some help
[18:38] <armornick> ShawnRisk: maybe you need the proprietary driver?
[18:38] <LjL> mr_moh: people are asking questions already.
[18:39] <ShawnRisk> armornick: explain
[18:39] <JONDAVIS> hello people
[18:39] <Snausages> ShawnRisk: you might try deleting the stored wireless connections in the network panel and then rejoining again.  Mine went in a weird loop once until I cleared it like that.
[18:39] <JONDAVIS> i need help playing my dvd s
[18:39] <mr_moh> Ok i ll answer to mr jondavis nos
[18:39] <LjL> !dvd | JONDAVIS, have you checked this?
[18:39] <ShawnRisk> Snausages: going to try
[18:39] <armornick> ShawnRisk: there's a wireless network card by broadcom that needs a binary driver
[18:39] <cephalopoid> can anyone tell me how to extend my desktop to a tv?
[18:39] <armornick> ShawnRisk: it's usually used in dell laptops
[18:39] <samuli--> JONDAVIS, have you installed needed codec?
[18:40] <samuli--> libdvdcss2 I think it's called
[18:40] <JONDAVIS> i have spent hrs looking aroung and trying to set my player up to play dvds
[18:40] <mr_moh> Jondavis have switched your DVD on ?
[18:40] <JONDAVIS> not a thing is working
[18:40] <dox_drum> samuli--, that's right
[18:40] <armornick> JONDAVIS: after you install libdvdcss2, you have to run a commandline script to make encrypted dvd playback working
[18:40] <ShawnRisk> armornick: where do I see this?
[18:40] <JONDAVIS> ok but how
[18:41] <JONDAVIS> and to what player
[18:41] <JONDAVIS> pm me
[18:41] <mr_moh> Have u tried with an original dvd ?
[18:41] <dox_drum> JONDAVIS, install libdvdcss2 and gxine
[18:41] <Fl1pFl0p> l337ingDisorder: maybe use nohup before exicuting the script
[18:41] <LjL> !u | mr_moh
[18:41] <armornick> JONDAVIS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing%20Encrypted%20DVDs
[18:41] <cephalopoid> !xorg
[18:41] <dox_drum> JONDAVIS, gxine plays DVDs,
[18:41] <JONDAVIS> i think i have goen all that
[18:41] <JONDAVIS> need help need help need help
[18:41] <ShawnRisk> Snausages: didn't help
[18:42] <SergeySyrota> Hi guys! I'm having trouble with my ubuntu 8.04 lts on a dell box... Kernel load in htop shows 100% for most CPUs frequently. Not sure what that means, and googling does not return any good results. would you have any suggestions as to how shuld I go about troubleshooting this thing?
[18:42] <mr_moh> What the fuck ubottu i m using a smart phone !
[18:42] <Snausages> ShawnRisk: which wireless card is it?
[18:42] <armornick> JONDAVIS: have you run the terminal script?
[18:42] <LjL> mr_moh: you were warned before about using language
[18:42] <LjL> !guidelines > mr_moh    (mr_moh, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:42] <LjL> !language > mr_moh    (mr_moh, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:42] <Fl1pFl0p> l337ingDisorder: i use 'nohup' to keep my scripts from ending
[18:42] <armornick> SnakDoc: do you perhaps know how to filter lspci input?
[18:42] <JONDAVIS> look guys i am trying my best to do it my self but i am haveing no luck '
[18:43] <yeaha> !guidelines
[18:43] <LjL> JONDAVIS: are you on the 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[18:43] <ShawnRisk> Snausages: Broadcom BMC4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[18:43] <mr_moh> Jondavis dont worry i ll help !
[18:44] <JONDAVIS> then plase help me
[18:44] <LjL> JONDAVIS: are you on the 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[18:44] <mr_moh> Ljl is right
[18:44] <JONDAVIS> i think i am 64
[18:44] <JONDAVIS> bit
[18:44] <mr_moh> AnsEr jon !
[18:44] <mcurran> ShawnRisk - Are you having trouble installing the b43 firmware
[18:44] <LjL> JONDAVIS: ok, what does "uname -m" return?
[18:44] <JONDAVIS> i dont know how
[18:44] <mr_moh> Answer to the question JON !
[18:45] <ShawnRisk> mcurran: nope got that driver installed
[18:45] <BeNdAbLe> I have a question about Karmic's upstart.  For services with an /etc/init.d/ script, those scripts now have what looks like metadata (i.e. stuff between lines marked with '### BEGIN INIT INFO' and '### END INIT INFO').  Is this stuff just there for comments, or is this actually being parsed and used by upstart?
[18:45] <Snausages> ShawnRisk: have you done the fwcutter procedure, all that stuff?
[18:45] <LjL> JONDAVIS: open a terminal and type it.
[18:45] <mr_moh> It s important to know !
[18:45] <ShawnRisk> Snausages: yep
[18:45] <jussi01> mr_moh: please dont badger people. it doesnt help
[18:45] <cephalopoid> anyone?
[18:46] <mr_moh> Who are u jussi ?
[18:46] <armornick> cephalopoid: can you repeat the question?
[18:46] <mr_moh> Me : mr moh, human being french living Paris, 35 year s old
[18:46] <cephalopoid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 tried this to no avail
[18:46] <mcurran> ShawnRisk - You need to put a blank password in for the keyring manager password prompt, I don't think it's asking for the network password, is it?
[18:46] <LjL> !ot | mr_moh
[18:47] <Fandekasp> Hi, I've changed my password because something is trying solving a problem on my server right now. But when he logg, all is crypted. I have to do ecryptfs-mount-private, but it ask him my passphrase . Or I don't remember it at all. I've tried to change it with ssh-keygen -t dsa ... but It didn't work. Could you help me ? Thank you in advance
[18:47] <cephalopoid> armornick: thank you, well I'm trying to connect my tv and use it as a second screen
[18:47] <porkpie> how do I find out what version of ubuntu I am running please
[18:47] <jon> on@jon-desktop:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep libdvd
[18:47] <jon> libdvdnav-dev					install
[18:47] <jon> libdvdnav4					install
[18:47] <LjL> !version | porkpie
[18:47] <jon> libdvdread-dbg					install
[18:47] <FloodBot1> jon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <jon> libdvdread-dev					install
[18:47] <jon> libdvdread4					install
[18:47] <mr_moh> What is ununtu ? Never Heard about it sorry ...
[18:47] <armornick> cephalopoid: well, I didn't even know that was possible so you'll have to ask someone else. sorry
[18:48] <cephalopoid> thanks for listening, armornick
[18:48] <basilic> Hello, I try to connect a slave to NUT for my UPS anyone can help me?
[18:48] <ShawnRisk> mcurran: why do I need a blank password there? I have a password there how do I get rid of it?  It is asking for a network password when I try to connect.
[18:48] <robo> hi: i just deleted the icon that shows my ethernet and wireless connection from the panel. Is there a way to add that back?
[18:48] <Guest11814> hello i am new about 7 weeks new
[18:48] <Guest11814> need help play dvds
[18:48] <Guest11814> come on
[18:48] <Guest11814> i am get up set
[18:48] <LjL> Guest11814: what happens when you type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" ?
[18:48] <mr_moh> What is this fucking UBUNTU ?!!
[18:49] <ANTRat> !enter | Guest11814
[18:49] <DJones> !language | mr_moh
[18:49] <rhorse> oh oh
[18:49] <armornick> how do we ban someone?
[18:49] <Guest11814> you guys are no help
[18:49] <Pici> !ubuntu > mr_moh
[18:49] <rhorse> buhbye!
[18:49] <LjL> Guest11814: you aren't answering any of my questions. how do you expect me to help?
[18:49] <Guest11814> i tould u dvd
[18:50] <dAlfa89_> I sometimes wish stupidity and ignorance were terminal illnesses..
[18:50] <robo> ah, n/m, it was the notification applet that i had to add back. ty anyways
[18:50] <armornick> Guest11814: did you install libdvdcss2 and run the above script?
[18:51] <slide> Has anyone used MacOnLinux before?
[18:51] <cephalopoid> can anyone help me out? I'm trying to use a tv as a second monitor here...
[18:51] <armornick> oh, he quit
[18:51] <armornick> bet he was a troll anyway
[18:51] <ShawnRisk> seems my question got too hard
[18:52] <``Cube> hey
[18:52] <basilic> I need help for NUT
[18:52] <ShawnRisk> armornick: any other thoughts?
[18:52] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: what's the question related to?
[18:53] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: wireless network
[18:53] <cephalopoid> ah, "keeps asking the password", right?
[18:53] <``Cube> i'm trying to find a way to access my evolution mail from command line. is there any frontend like that?
[18:53] <armornick> ShawnRisk: well, the wireless chip you're using isn't one that uses the proprietary chip
[18:53] <Guest44171> how do i add my usb skype phone to the devices under skype for audio??
[18:53] <armornick> ShawnRisk: so it should work with the driver you have now
[18:54] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: yes that is right
[18:54] <cephalopoid> what networkmanager are you using?
[18:54] <cephalopoid> NM? the default one?
[18:54] <Snausages> Guest44171: got the drivers loaded for it?
[18:54] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: default
[18:54] <mcurran> ShawnRisk - Sometimes there is a keyring manager that I used to get confused with the network password prompt.  I was wondering if that was what you were experiencing.  Also, check to make sure you're not using 0's for O's and 8's for B's.
[18:54] <armornick> ShawnRisk: oh wait, you didn't use autologin, did you?
[18:54] <rhorse> ``Cube: it should be in your home folder
[18:54] <Guest44171> yeah it works but skype wont list it
[18:55] <Guest44171> i can get it under audio settings
[18:55] <dAlfa89_> ``Cube, there's a command-line email application called Mutt, don't know if that's any good for you
[18:55] <ShawnRisk> armornick: yes I do
[18:55] <Snausages> Guest44171: dunno then...  I haven't gotten skype to work on my own rig yet :(
[18:55] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: try wicd, maybe it solves the problem
[18:55] <armornick> ShawnRisk: and it asks the password when you want to log onto a wireless network?
[18:55] <webbb82> i just downloaded firefox 3.6 beta 4 and i was just running it by unzipping then just run the firefox file but is there a way to install it in the terminal somthing like -i firefox.36.b
[18:56] <Guest44171> alright cheers anyway
[18:56] <ShawnRisk> armornick: I use autologin for the computer not for internet
[18:56] <``Cube> dAlfa89_: yeah i heard about it, and i assume that i could go command-line only, but i'd like to stay with the actual evolution being used in the background just in case i need it once, but for daily use use a command line interface
[18:56] <armornick> ShawnRisk: well, the keychain manager wants you to unlock it because you are using autologin
[18:57] <rhorse> ``Cube: it should be in your home folder: ~/evolution/local. You can read with text browser of your choice. If evolution has an option for mbox format you can read with mutt and other cli mail apps
[18:57] <armornick> ShawnRisk: when you use autologin it isn't automatically unlocked when you log in
[18:57] <basilic> I need help for NUT and UPS
[18:57] <``Cube> rhorse: what about sending mail aso.? i'm looking for an actual mail client you know
[18:57] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: try wicd ;)
[18:57] <stevr1it> hello i have a problem of kernel with 9.10 thunderbird and other software are blocking and appeares this sentence. futex_wait_queue_me
[18:58] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: I am getting it
[18:58] <ShawnRisk> armornick: I don't understand fully
[18:58] <armornick> ``Cube: there's a lot of terminal mail clients
[18:58] <rhorse> ``Cube: mutt is prolly the best choice for a cli mail client. You can get info on installing here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt
[18:58] <armornick> ShawnRisk: well, the password for your wireless connection is stored in some kind of locked database
[18:59] <armornick> ShawnRisk: and it normally unlocks when you log in
[18:59] <``Cube> rhorse: armornick: you know pidgin? perhaps you know finch? that is exactly what im looking for with evolution
[18:59] <armornick> ShawnRisk: but not when you use autologin
[18:59] <nbad57>  /part
[18:59] <kevinmcq> hello i have been having trouble using a usb flash drive as a live cd, i got it to work once when i formatted the stick on a windows pc then used unetbootin for ubuntu netbook remix, but i was stupid and reformatted the stick after installing ubuntu on my netbook
[19:00] <ShawnRisk> armornick: oh okay
[19:00] <armornick> ``Cube: you mean an instant messaging client for the cli?
[19:00] <rhorse> ``Cube: mutt with ssmtp is a hell good mail program. Don't know about finch, etc.
[19:00] <armornick> ``Cube: for msn and stuff?
[19:00] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: I have some problems.  "Could not find a network configuration tool"
[19:00] <kevinmcq> now when i try to use unetbootin or the usb creator, the iso copies and such, but when i reboot the computer says no operating system found
[19:00] <Marc128000> ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp993
[19:01] <Pici> Marc128000: please don't do that.
[19:01] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: with wicd or the default one?
[19:01] <kevinmcq> could someone point me to a guide on how to properly setup a usb flash drive so i can use it as a live cd?
[19:01] <rhorse> finally someone with sense!
[19:01] <Marc128000> *-96/699
[19:01] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: wicd
[19:01] <ANTRat> cat like typing detected
[19:01] <``Cube> armornick: rhorse: nono listen. you guys know pidgin i assume? finch is something like textpidgin. it's exactly the same as pidgin, having most of the functions, using most of the same libraries, writing the same logs, aso. finch is like pidgin's text counterpart
[19:02] <rhorse> ``Cube: if you convert evolution to mbox format you can access your mail from both evolution and mutt
[19:02] <rumpel_> hi. why is pastebinit bad?
[19:02] <LjL> rumpel_: uhm, it's not...?
[19:03] <basilic> je cherche de l'aide pour la configuration de NUT avec un poste master et un slave, mais j'arrive pas a meconnecter au master y a quelqu'un!!
[19:03] <cephalopoid> rumpel: just don't stick personal or security-related stuff there
[19:03] <LjL> !fr | basilic
[19:03] <armornick> kevinmcq: have you tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:03] <basilic> I need help for configure NUT with master and slave
[19:04] <LjL> basilic: what is NUT?
[19:04] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: any ideas?
[19:04] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: maybe there's a how-to in the wiki... maybe you need to do extra steps before you can use wicd
[19:04] <basilic> NUT is a service for UPS
[19:04] <``Cube> rhorse: but can i send from it as well?
[19:05] <kevinmcq> armornick, yes ive seen that, like i said, after doing that the computer says no operating system found, but i could try it again
[19:05] <``Cube> rhorse: i dont want just to read it. maybe there is a nice gui client, that also has a text version=
[19:05] <Shwack> Hello
[19:05] <lainy> Hello, has anyone had this problem before? MPD is playing perfectly fine but the MPD values on Conky all display as "(null)". Sometimes, and I don't know why, it works, i.e., it displays the MPD song, etc.... Any help appreciated
[19:05] <``Cube> Shwack: hi
[19:05] <q0_0p> anyone know what this error could be?  everytime i load gui program through the temrinal i get this error message
[19:05] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:05] <rhorse> basilic: try #b&d
[19:06] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: what is the link to the how-to?
[19:06] <Shwack> ``Cube:  ARe you familiar with files not showing up on your desktop unless refreshing desktop?
[19:06] <armornick> kevinmcq: do you have another usb to try, perhaps?
[19:06] <basilic> I try rhorse
[19:06] <mahngiel> how do i access the trash from terminal?
[19:06] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: I don't know, I just said there maybe was... give me a second and I'll look it up
[19:06] <basilic> b&d is an empty chan
[19:07] <rhorse> basilic: yes, if you want to involve your NUT with slaves and masters, that's your best choice
[19:07] <basilic> rhorse: No chan b&d
[19:07] <kevinmcq> armornick, no, and this one has worked its just a question of getting it to work again hehe
[19:07] <decora> q0_0p: accroding to http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13223 it doesnt hurt anything, just a warning
[19:07] <basilic> rhorse: sorry I don't understand your joke, certainly beacause I'm french
[19:07] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[19:07] <BeNdAbLe> I have a question about Karmic's upstart.  For services with an /etc/init.d/ script, those scripts now have what looks like metadata (i.e. stuff between lines marked with '### BEGIN INIT INFO' and '### END INIT INFO').  Is this stuff just there for comments, or is this actually being parsed and used by upstart?
[19:07] <armornick> mahngiel: the terminal doesn't really have a trash folder, so you'll have to find out where the trash folder is located in gnome
[19:08] <q0_0p> decora, i know it doesn't hurt was just trying to get rid the warning
[19:08] <rhorse> basilic: you guys invented all that stuff!!
[19:08] <q0_0p> decora, thx for helping
[19:08] <armornick> kevinmcq: as a last resort, I can only think of either buying another usb drive or buying unr from on-disk.com
[19:09] <kevinmcq> alright thanks
[19:09] <benste> basilic: !fr
[19:09] <decora> q0_0p: gui_command | grep -v "Generic Event Extension"
[19:09] <basilic> I don't find any help on fr, I try
[19:09] <decora> or if its on stderr gui_command 2>&1 | grep -v "Generic Event Extension"
[19:10] <Ghoster> Can someone help me out I have 3 screens running on 2 Nvida cards but the third screen is on a seperate Xscreen how can I change that ?
[19:10] <ManDay> I cannot install gnome! It says: gnome depends on gnome-vfs-obexftp [UNAVAILABLE] ! how so?
[19:10] <decora> ManDay: id triple check your sources.list and do an apt-get update
[19:10] <apric_> hu guys, is there something wrong with intel hardware acceleration / graphics driver in 9.10 (9.04 was that horrible, too)? netbeans (using jdk 1.6) gui is soooo slow [graphics accel. is set to "medium", intel gma 4500m, i'm currently not at this laptop]
[19:10] <q0_0p> decora, y would i need to grep it?
[19:11] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: this is so much better
[19:11] <kubanc> what is the best format to save video files in Avidemux. Size of a file doesn't matter. i would like to have a good quality
[19:11] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: think you'll manage with that how-to?
[19:11] <Nalleman> hi. does fspot store any data in the photo folder?
[19:11] <decora> q0_0p: that will hide all of the error messages
[19:11] <jtholmes> what blu ray bd-re  bd-r works well with 9.10
[19:11] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: good to hear :D
[19:11] <q0_0p> decora, it shows the error message
[19:11] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: hehehe yes I can do that.  I like wicd
[19:11] <ManDay> decora, my sources are fine plus the list is recent (just updated)
[19:11] <skunkworks165> +
[19:12] <q0_0p> decora, isn't grep suppose to specify whatever u want that is shown?
[19:12] <decora>  q0_0p even with 2>&1 | grep -v
[19:12] <armornick> ManDay: what about gnome-core?
[19:12] <decora> q0_0p: -v is 'inverse' grep
[19:12] <q0_0p> oh
[19:12] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: Connection Failed:  Unable to get IP Address
[19:12] <ManDay> armornick, as a source?
[19:12] <cephalopoid> in the meanwhile, my tv problem hasn't solved itself
[19:12] <manuel_> hi all, can anyone make a SMC EZ Connect N to work in Ubuntu Karmic?
[19:12] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: retry
[19:12] <armornick> ManDay: no, try to install the gnome-core package
[19:12] <Guest29445> can anybody plese help me set up my movie player so it can play dvd.there are a dvd box set
[19:12] <lance> Hi
[19:13] <lance> I need help panel icons
[19:13] <ManDay> armornick, do i have to be afraid that it contains stuff i dont want (like ooo) ?
[19:13] <Daremonai> in the motd of the ssh server, it shows the system information, one of my hard disks is missing... how can i add it?
[19:13] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: okay
[19:13] <q0_0p> decora, my bad didn't read man page
[19:13] <cephalopoid> !tv
[19:13] <armornick> ManDay: no, like the name states, it's only the core gnome apps
[19:13] <gentoo4life> jondavis, install the restricted extra's from synaptic
[19:13] <JONDAVIS> i have
[19:13] <decora> ManDay https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/451266
[19:13] <cephalopoid> !nvtv
[19:13] <JONDAVIS> there are not playing
[19:14] <ManDay> decora that seems to work
[19:14] <q0_0p> ls
[19:14] <Nalleman> this is buggy, f-spot does not even start for the first time when trying...
[19:14] <gentoo4life> JONDAVIS: what player are you using
[19:14] <armornick> Guest39665: what's the problem?
[19:14] <Guest39665> Hi .. I need a help in panel icon in 9.04
[19:14] <cephalopoid> ShawnRisk: fixing wifi can be hard at times... good luck, I gotta do the shopping before the shops close...
[19:14] <cephalopoid> good luck
[19:15] <ShawnRisk> cephalopoid: thanks
[19:15] <ShawnRisk> same error
[19:15] <Guest39665> panel open(tasks) icons are not displaying
[19:15] <JONDAVIS> i have got 3 movie players.movie player. vlc player and xine
[19:15] <JONDAVIS> none will work
[19:15] <armornick> Guest39665: the task bar is missing?
[19:16] <Guest39665> No
[19:16] <JONDAVIS> well
[19:16] <Guest39665> i have task bar but tasks are not displaying like firefox .. any open applications
[19:16] <decora> JON did u install libdvdcss and all that
[19:16] <Guest39665> i tried to reinstall nautilus
[19:16] <JONDAVIS> my movie players will not work
[19:17] <Guest39665> but it is not working either
[19:17] <ManDay> thanks decora karmic is a mess upon installation
[19:17] <armornick> Guest39665, try right-clicking the bar then adding the applet to show to open tasks
[19:17] <decora> Guest39665: what if you right click on your panel, add to panel, window list
[19:17] <Pici> Guest39665: Please right click on your bottom task bar, and go to add to panel, and find the 'window list' applet.
[19:17] <MindVirus> What is the preferred VNC viewing client that allows me to choose display quality and compression?
[19:17] <decora> ManDay: so i have heard
[19:18] <JONDAVIS> I NEED SOME HELP HERE '
[19:18] <armornick> !attitude | JONDAVIS
[19:18] <JONDAVIS> my movies players will not work
[19:18] <MindVirus> Any ideas?
[19:18] <ManDay> gnome-core, by the way, kindly installs stuff i dont want such as gedit
[19:18] <ss4> JONDAVIS, elaborate :)
[19:19] <ManDay> (i guess the meta package would have installed the same tho)
[19:19] <ManDay> still, urgh
[19:19] <dustan> Anyone know why the VGA monitor output on my laptop wont work
[19:19] <decora> JONDAVIS: did you install the libdvdcss things
[19:19] <oCean_> JONDAVIS: you might need additional codecs
[19:19] <JONDAVIS> evertime i try to play a dvd it will not play
[19:19] <armornick> ManDay: you don't use gedit? :o
[19:19] <oCean_> !dvd | JONDAVIS
[19:19] <Nalleman> I need some troubleshooting help, my f-spot closes directly when I try to start it. Is there any error log or any other way to find out why?
[19:19] <JONDAVIS> dont send me to web sites
[19:19] <Guest39665> i searched applet then I found five them such as brightness applet, indicator , inhabit pilot and terminal server
[19:19] <JONDAVIS>  i need real help from a person
[19:19] <Shwack> I love gedit
[19:20] <decora> ManDay: yeah not exactly the thing u want to see with a released product
[19:20] <oCean_> JONDAVIS: that attitude won't help you much here.
[19:20] <decora> Guest39665: you should have  'window list' down at the bottom of available applets.
[19:20] <Guest39665> i couldn't find windows list applet in there
[19:20] <Supersaiyan_IV> JONDAVIS, when you try to play the dvd from VLC, what happens? It should play since it has all the codecs bult in
[19:20] <Shwack> johndavis lol " a real person " this is the best help you're going to get  - there's 1500 people in here and most are probably cooking, peeing, or otherwise, just hang out and casually ask your question every now and then you will get your answer. You have to be patient
[19:20] <enquora> Anyone installed 9.10 on an Asus EEE box? I'm having trouble.
[19:20] <Guest39665> i got it
[19:20]  * decora is peeing
[19:21] <MindVirus> Can anyone suggest a GTK/GNOME-based VNC client that allows me to change compression/viewing quality?
[19:21] <JONDAVIS> my box set DVDs will not play any of thing like vlc
[19:21] <Guest39665> it fixed . Thanks Decora
[19:21] <Shwack> by the way - i've bee hanging out all morning trying to figure out why I have to refresh my dekstop in order to see files after i save them there.  Any thoughts?
[19:21] <oCean_> JONDAVIS: we cannot help you if you keep repeating your issue w/out answering our questions
[19:21] <Nalleman> I need some troubleshooting help, my f-spot closes directly when I try to start it. Is there any error log or any other way to find out why?
[19:21] <JONDAVIS> i have
[19:21] <armornick> Shwack: I'm guessing, but I think that has to do with gamin (the file alteration manager)
[19:22] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I make voice call in empathy, my option is greyed out?
[19:22] <JONDAVIS> vlc will not play my dame dvd s
[19:22] <armornick> Shwack: don't know how to solve it though
[19:22] <Supersaiyan_IV> JONDAVIS, go to places → choose your dvd → right click an mpg and choose open with vlc
[19:22] <seidos> Nalleman: run f-spot from a terminal
[19:22] <oCean_> !repeat > JONDAVIS
[19:22] <oCean_> !attitude > JONDAVIS
[19:22] <Shwack> armornick: thanks - it gives me a better google starting spot
[19:22] <Nalleman> oh...
[19:22] <JONDAVIS> I HAVE SPENT HRS ON TRYING TO DO THIS ON MY OWN
[19:23] <oCean_> !caps > JONDAVIS
[19:23] <m1dlg> the shouting isn't necsessery
[19:23]  * armornick bangs head. hits wall.
[19:23] <Dessan> JONDAVIS, Calm down please
[19:23] <cmp> hi every bod, when i type this command in terminal " sudo gedit /etc/inittab "   it gives me blank page ... is it correct or i got some error?
[19:23] <armornick> JONDAVIS: have you installed libdvdcss2?
[19:23] <rhorse> I smell troll
[19:23] <Nalleman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/331904/ help, please!
[19:23] <armornick> cmp: inittab isn't used in ubuntu anymore
[19:24] <marek> hello!
[19:24] <ct529> hi guys! anyone who has tried to install Android on Ubuntu? There is an entire page about it on the website .... or is it better to run it on a virtual machine?
[19:24] <JONDAVIS> i have install everything i have
[19:24] <JONDAVIS> i have done everthing
[19:24] <dustan> i know your not supposed to repeat but i could really use some help with the vga out on my laptop im supposed to do a presentation at my work in 3 hours
[19:24] <Dessan> JONDAVIS, Then what do you expect us to do?
[19:24] <JONDAVIS> none of what you guys have sais will work
[19:24] <cmp> armornick, can you check this page please. ? http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28224/How_to_tune_your_Ubuntu_PC_for_faster_performance_
[19:25] <Untouchab1e> so, did some updates today and now, when I reboot, I only get to an insanenly blinking login prompt.. Its impossible for me to longin, because while blinking, it hardly accepts any input, making it difficult to type a password.. any ideas?
[19:25] <JONDAVIS> plese i need help[
[19:25] <armornick> JONDAVIS: did you type this in a terminal: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:25] <JONDAVIS> yes i did
[19:25] <armornick> JONDAVIS: what did it say?
[19:25] <dAlfa89_> Whenever I try to shut down the laptop, a load of funky colours and lines come up (As if it were an overheating problem), if I switch between a cli runlevel and the graphical one, it doesn't do it (Except when first using the cli runlevel), any ideas why it's happening?
[19:25] <JONDAVIS> it says install lol
[19:26] <Dessan> ...
[19:26] <armornick> cmp: that's an old article, it doesn't count for the newer versions anymore
[19:26] <Untouchab1e> Anyone?
[19:26] <seidos> meow
[19:26] <ratatim> is there a way to mount and unmount usb drives using command prompt? My ports wont mount my usb drive.
[19:26] <JONDAVIS> will some one help me out
[19:26] <cmp> all what i see in this article armornick,?
[19:26] <buttons840> where can i read up on init.d, rc.d and specifically, what a runlevel is?
[19:27] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I make voice call in empathy, my option is greyed out?
[19:27] <oCean_> !upstart | buttons840
[19:27] <armornick> cmp: I haven't read all of it, but the inittab thing is definately outdated
[19:27] <duffydack> Fully up to date jaunty, no problems other than the fact I just noticed I can access the Services control app..  It asks for auth and when it hit return the auth window stays up and wont close unless I kill it.. ?
[19:27] <Dessan> JONDAVIS, Unless you are willing to follow our instructions and respond to our questions we will not help you.
[19:27] <JONDAVIS> i have
[19:27] <cmp> do you mind to check it all please and guide me armornick, ?
[19:28] <Untouchab1e> any ideas on what I can do?
[19:28] <Untouchab1e> rebooted after updates on Ubuntu 9.10, and now Im stuck with a blinking login screen
[19:28] <JONDAVIS> i have doen everything you guys have tould me to do
[19:28] <Nalleman> could someone please have a look at this and help me find out what is wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/331904/
[19:28] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i ifugre out if my network card supports monitor mode?
[19:29] <JONDAVIS> none of my movie players will work '
[19:29] <armornick> cmp: seems only the first thing still works, but I'd be careful with messing with the sytem files
[19:29] <JONDAVIS> guys some one will better help me out
[19:29] <buttons840> so what is a runlevel, what is the difference between run level 0 and 6 for example/
[19:29] <ratatim> ﻿is there a way to mount and unmount usb drives using command prompt? My ports wont mount my usb drive.
[19:29] <buttons840> ?
[19:29] <Dessan> JONDAVIS, What dvd are you trying toplay?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> JONDAVIS: If settng up support for  commercial DVD's in Ubuntu is to difficult for,  depending on how much RAM you have and such,  you could try a Windows virtual machine
[19:29] <sebsebseb> JONDAVIS: and run that inside Ubuntu for the DVD's
[19:29] <JONDAVIS> box set of stargate ATLANTIS
[19:29] <armornick> buttons840: the system is able to start up different services in different runlevels
[19:30] <Dessan> sebsebseb, lol
[19:30] <armornick> buttons840: runlevel 0 is usually used for root-only use
[19:30] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone knows how to activate voice calls on empathy or is that only working on windows?
[19:30] <cmp> well the first thing works but missing some data in the editing page  armornick , so what can i do?
[19:30] <sebsebseb> Dessan: why?
[19:30] <switchgirl> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113904869998 new ubuntu womewomen facebook group
[19:30] <JONDAVIS> I HAVE TRYING TO PLAY BOX SET OF STARGATE
[19:30] <sebsebseb> !women | switchgirl
[19:31] <sebsebseb> !caps |  JONDAVIS
[19:31] <armornick> cmp: don't know, I've rarely ever needed to use swappiness
[19:31] <buttons840> armornick, http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/153911/   i'm modifying this bash script, i'm wondering if i'll need to start in multiple run levels like it has?'
[19:31] <JONDAVIS> then tell me how i can play them
[19:31] <dAlfa89_> JONDAVIS, have you considered the fact your DVD player might be dead?
[19:31] <Pici> JONDAVIS: Please be patient.
[19:31] <ratatim> JONDAVIS: have you tried vlc?
[19:31] <cmp> what is swappiness for armornick, ?
[19:31] <Ghoster> Can someone help me out I have 3 screens running on 2 Nvida cards but the third screen is on a seperate Xscreen how can I change that ?
[19:31] <JONDAVIS> itis not died'
[19:31] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. Anyone help, please?
[19:32] <buttons840> what is the meaning of default-start and default-stop  http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/153911/
[19:32] <helluvaCSmajor> is anyone here familiar with monitor mode on network cards?
[19:32] <JONDAVIS> i have try vlxc
[19:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> JONDAVIS, type "vlc dvd:///dev/dvd" in a terminal
[19:32] <armornick> cmp: swappiness is a number that determines how quickly the swap partition is used
[19:32] <armornick> cmp: it can free more RAM from your hard drive, but it's slower
[19:32] <Pici> switchgirl: Please don't advertise here.
[19:33] <TopKatz> how hard is it to move the location of /var?
[19:33] <armornick> TopKatz: hard
[19:33] <JONDAVIS> the vlc itis notplaying'
[19:33] <TopKatz> hmm
[19:34] <sroschke> heya guys
[19:34] <armornick> TopKatz: do you mean physical location or where the apps reference?
[19:34] <TopKatz> physical location
[19:34] <cmp> how come to free more ram - and how come its slower - can you explain this armornick,?
[19:34] <TopKatz> I want it on a strip set Im installing
[19:34] <TopKatz> stripe
[19:34] <armornick> TopKatz: well, you'd probably have to reinstall, is my guess
[19:34] <TopKatz> hmm
[19:34] <JONDAVIS> hello my vlc is not playing
[19:34] <Pici> JONDAVIS: Are there ay errors in the terminal when you try to play the DVD after using that command?
[19:34] <TopKatz> problem is that my stripe is not initialized yet
[19:35] <TopKatz> I have to install those drivers and get that up
[19:35] <armornick> cmp: well, your apps have more memory available, but writing to the disk is slower than writing to RAM
[19:35] <sroschke> anybody here has experience with using ubuntu 9.10 on toshiba satelite 1130 ?
[19:35] <oCean_> TopKatz: create new filesystem, call it /var, don't mount it yet, change fstab, reboot
[19:35] <JONDAVIS> vlc will open but it will now play my dvds
[19:35] <TopKatz> I really only care about www and mysql
[19:35] <helluvaCSmajor> does anyone know how to switch the network card to monitor mode and back?
[19:35] <ctmjr> Ghoster: you might ask in #nvidia but be patient it usually takes awhile to get an answer
[19:35] <sebsebseb> JONDAVIS: you need libdvdcss2/3 installed
[19:35] <oCean_> TopKatz: oh wait
[19:35] <oCean_> TopKatz: srry :/
[19:35] <cmp> so how can i speed up my ubuntu and keep it clean and fast armoornick,?
[19:36] <Ghoster> K :)
[19:36] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: "ifconfig <dev> 0.0.0.0" should do it
[19:36] <armornick> cmp: by disabling some of the startup applications
[19:36] <Pici> JONDAVIS: Please include the person's nick you are responding to in your replies so that we are alerted.
[19:36] <oCean_> TopKatz: you'll need a little copying of course. What's your worry?
[19:36] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, if i want a bash saved in a file, what extension should i use?
[19:36] <cmp> and how can i do this armornick,?
[19:36] <TopKatz> no worry, just want to know how to do it
[19:36] <sroschke> anybody here has experience with using ubuntu 9.10 on toshiba satelite 1130 ?
[19:36] <armornick> cmp: choose startup applications (or something like it) in the system menu
[19:36] <sroschke> it just doesnt start the install there
[19:37] <n8tuser> isolat3dsh33p-> none, linux are not file extension sensitive
[19:37] <Shwack> Can a linux box be built to accept every type of audio/video signal currently in mainstream use and turn it into one output on the fly?
[19:37] <TopKatz> I want the os root ona  mirror, and my db and web stuff ona  araid 5 stripe set
[19:37] <helluvaCSmajor> does that work on wireless? i tried iwconfig mode monitor, it switches, but i cannot switch it back
[19:37] <ardchoille> isolat3dsh33p: GNU/Linux doesn't care about file extensions. But you could use .sh if you really needed one
[19:37] <oCean_> TopKatz: in my opinion you won't need to reinstall if moving /var is all you need
[19:37] <isolat3dsh33p> ardchoille, thanks :D
[19:37] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: just save it as any file and right click, and choose executable under permissions
[19:37] <Pizza1337> or .txt
[19:37] <ardchoille> yw
[19:37] <TopKatz> thats all I want
[19:37] <cmp> i got it armornick , so what it should be in and what i should disable?
[19:37] <TopKatz> have var be located on my stripe set
[19:38] <isolat3dsh33p> armornick, thanks again :D
[19:38] <armornick> cmp: there should be a short description about what it does
[19:38] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: u need to switch to monitor mode for wifi
[19:38] <TopKatz> is this how to do it -https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto
[19:38] <armornick> cmp: but I wouldn't disable anything you don't know what it does
[19:38] <armornick> cmp: disable bluetooth if you don't use it, etc
[19:38] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: dunno whether you can switch back though... u should be able to!
[19:39] <mbeierl> ok, this is driving me NUTS.  does anyone know a fix/workaround for the mouse losing the ability to click?  It's like a modifier key is getting stuck for it and only restarting X gets it back
[19:39] <armornick> TopKatz: depends on whether you want to move the partition; if so, yes
[19:39] <helluvaCSmajor> it said the interface was busy when i tried to switch back
[19:39] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: or u should work with virtual devices
[19:39] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: no problem
[19:39] <cmp> and if i want to get them back while iam on system allready - what can i do armornick,?
[19:39] <armornick> cmp: just re-enable them
[19:40] <cmp> means that i need to restart after re-enable them , but i dont want to restart armornick,?
[19:40] <armornick> cmp: just log off and log on
[19:41] <armornick> cmp: they aren't actually disabled until you do that, too
[19:41] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: maybe u r still using it... is there another program running which makes use of the device?
[19:41] <TopKatz> armornick - I want to permanitly move the location of var over to my stripe set... so I think the answer is yes
[19:41] <cmp> many thing has no description armornick, ? what show i do with it now ?
[19:41] <mbeierl> when this happens my alt key does not work either - alt-tab does not switch windows...
[19:42] <helluvaCSmajor> shouldn't be, i ran ifdown wlan0 before doing it
[19:42] <armornick> cmp: strange, what language are you using? most of my entries have descriptions
[19:43] <sroschke> helluvaCSmajor: anyway, gotta go... cant find help here. :( good luck with your problem! (try to unload the module and relaod it, everything should be back to normal)
[19:43] <armornick> TopKatz: I don't know what a stripe set is ;) but if it's a permanently mounted drive, it should work, yes
[19:43] <cmp> what do you mean what language armornick? iam working in english language and iam using ubuntu 9.04
[19:43] <Rprp`> Hi, i have got 4G of rams installed on my Ubuntu server box, but it says only 3G is usable.. Why? I know 32 bit is limited to 4G.. but where is my other 1G of ram?
[19:43] <helluvaCSmajor> ok, thanks
[19:44] <nidelius> Rprp`:  32 bit can only allocate 3GB ram
[19:44] <armornick> cmp: well, the entries have titles right? that should help you a bit
[19:44] <Rprp`> nidelius: really? hmm.. oke. thnx!
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> actually i think 32bit can go up to 4gb.. but theres some reserved ram by the system
[19:44] <armornick> nidelius: isn't there a kernel extension to use 4G?
[19:44] <TopKatz> hmm
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> or am i missing the conversation. :)
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[19:44] <TopKatz> just installed a fresh 9.1 and its not booting into the gui, Im at a cmd prompt
[19:45] <TopKatz> is this normal?
[19:45] <armornick> TopKatz: did you install the server edition?
[19:45] <TopKatz> not to my knowledge
[19:45] <TopKatz> no
[19:45] <enquora> Trying to install 9.10 server on EEE box from USB optical drive. Boots fine, but after boot installer looks for driver, can't find it and fails. Suggestions?
[19:45] <cmp> the titles are exist but the descriptions are not telling me any thing such as ( GNOME Keyring Daemon ) have no description armornick, and many many things else
[19:45] <Space-Wolf24> is there any java compilers available for ubuntu?
[19:46] <armornick> cmp: well, don't disable anything the title of which doesn't mean anything to you
[19:46] <armornick> Space-Wolf24: open-jdk, or jre
[19:46] <TopKatz> what is the command to fire up the gui?
[19:46] <Space-Wolf24> thanks, can I get it from synpatic?
[19:46] <Space-Wolf24> synaptic*
[19:47] <armornick> Space-Wolf24: probably, yes
[19:47] <Space-Wolf24> sweet
[19:47] <armornick> Space-Wolf24: you might have to enable universe or multivers
[19:47] <Space-Wolf24> k
[19:48] <cmp> but what is its slowing the system armornick,?
[19:48] <nidelius> armornick: there is indeed but it can't allocate it for direct access just use it as extra space what I know
[19:48] <nidelius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=855511
[19:49] <armornick> cmp: sorry, can't really help you with that since I don't know what services are started at bootup
[19:49] <tado> hey all. i have some issues with compiz and cairo-dock crashing together
[19:49] <cmp> i can tell you armornick,
[19:51] <dury> hi there channel :)
[19:51] <armornick> cmp: I really don't have the time to help you with something as big as that, but you could try a lightweight ubuntu version
[19:52] <armornick> dury: hi
[19:52] <dury> I just downloaded a package called cdcover... how does it work?
[19:52] <mynameguy> cmp: try mandriva I use it
[19:53] <dury> armornick: hi there :)
[19:53] <armornick> mynameguy: Mandriva isn't actually lightweight ;)
[19:53] <armornick> dury: try typing 'man cdcover' in a terminal
[19:54] <armornick> dury: btw, why did you download it if you don't know how it works?
[19:54] <Rprp`> Dr_Willis: any idea how to enable PAE?
[19:54] <armornick> Rprp`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=855511
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Rprp`:  its in the server kernel  i think
[19:55] <Rprp`> armornick: tried that, my apt-get cant find any server kernels
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Rprp`:   How much ram do you have?
[19:55] <Rprp`> Dr_Willis: Only 4G, but still, extra gig of ram counts :p
[19:55] <Rprp`> +every
[19:56] <dury> armornick: need to make cd cover for the school... that's all
[19:56] <dury> armornick: any idea how does it work?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> Rprp`:  i douibt if you gain much. Part of that ram will still be reserved by the system.
[19:56] <armornick> dury: did you already install it?
[19:57] <dury> armornick: yep
[19:57] <armornick> dury: alright, do you know your way around the terminal?
[19:57] <dury> armornick: by synaptic
[19:57] <Rprp`> aha, oke. thnx Dr_Willis ^^
[19:58] <armornick> dury: try typing 'man cdcover' in a terminal
[19:58] <rcbwnka> Pici: I like homophobes myself, feels less useless.
[19:58] <dury> armornick: you mean to open terminal application
[19:58] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. Anyone help, please?
[19:58] <armornick> dury: it should be in accessories or something like that
[19:59] <lovre> hi all. I cant seem to set cube caps image, its allways the default color, whatever image i set. Why is this, is there somewhere i need to enable this option?
[19:59] <Delano-240696195> I can't log into my gnome desktop. All the bars are gone. Alt+F2 doesn't work. Removing and reinstalling gnome doesn't work. This is the 3rd time it's happened to me on 3 seperate installations. What the **** is going on, besides GNOME being the biggest piece of rubbish ever?
[20:00] <armornick> Delano-240696195: install something else if you don't like it ;)
[20:00] <karmicuser> hi , my ubuntu won't boot now . i dunno what is wrong . pls help me
[20:01] <karmicuser> i'm now from live cd .
[20:01] <dury> armornick: I can't find it I checked in accessories and everything and not success
[20:01] <Delano-240696195> Even Windows doesn't have stupid bugs like that, armornick
[20:01] <armornick> karmicuser: what error message do you get?
[20:01] <karmicuser> armornick, no error . it stays at the ubuntu logo
[20:02] <dury> armornick: it's a commandline program
[20:02] <Delano-240696195> armornick, but no doubt if I *did* get it in Windows, the Linux kiddies would get on my case endlessly about what a cr*p OS it is... of course, when Linux does it, it's okay...
[20:02] <armornick> dury: I meant you should open a terminal via the accessories menu ;)
[20:02] <raja> Is the EXT4 bug still there? the bug that corrupts big files? I lost 2 videos on EXT4 last week. just wondering
[20:02] <armornick> Delano-240696195: never said that
[20:03] <linxeh> is there any software to send sms messages from via a mobile, but change the source of the message to an arbitrary string ?
[20:03] <Delano-240696195> So, any idea how I can fix it?
[20:03] <the_vdi> Get your hand in your pocket and buy Windows 7 then
[20:03] <armornick> raja: never happened to me
[20:03] <karmicuser> wat shud i do ?? i'm reeally in a fix. pls help me .
[20:03] <isolat3dsh33p> !wget
[20:03] <blackxored> karmicuser, I'm listening, please describe your problem
[20:03] <armornick> dury: after you do that, type man cdcover
[20:03] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: try to guess what you did, when that happened to you
[20:03] <dury> armornick: thanks dude... I will check it out later have to go right now... really appreciate your advice and suggestions... believe me
[20:04] <ldiamond> I need something to manage my bluetooth devices. The builtin manager doesnt allow me to do anything exept file transfert... Blueman doesnt work properly with my device, what else can I use?
[20:04] <Delano-240696195> karmicuser, switch to Mac or Windows; Linux is really garbage
[20:04] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, where does wget store downloaded files?
[20:04] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. dmesg shows the mouse being recognised but mouse movement does not result in pointer movement. Anyone help, please?
[20:04] <armornick> Delano-240696195: why don't you, if you've got so much trouble
[20:04] <dury> have to go for supper
[20:04] <Delano-240696195> guntbert, I've done nothing; no new installs, clean shutdowns
[20:04] <karmicuser> okey when i boot , the system stays at the ubuntu logo . it just stays there . no change
[20:04] <blackxored> isolat3dsh33p, in the current directory, unless you specified otherwise
[20:04] <duffydack> karmicuser,  if you want to install it, use the alternate installer.
[20:04] <dury> armornick: cheerss!! :)
[20:04] <blackxored> karmicuser, try switching to virtual console #8 and describe the output
[20:05] <armornick> dury: no problem
[20:05] <isolat3dsh33p> blackxored, got it, thanks :D
[20:05] <Delano-240696195> armornick, if I can't resolve this issue, then I will... and believe me, I will go out of my way to badmouth Linux at every turn
[20:05] <blackxored> isolat3dsh33p, no problem
[20:05] <Delano-240696195> Linux is a cult
[20:05] <karmicuser> blackxored, how am i supposed to do thath ??
[20:05] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: please try to remember - such things just don't happen "out of the blue" - not three times in a row
[20:05] <the_vdi> Sounds like finger trouble on behalf of the operator
[20:05] <armornick> Delano-240696195: If I had to guess, hardware incompatibilities
[20:05] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: stop your ranting please
[20:05] <blackxored> karmicuser, have you used linux before karmic? you just type CTRL+ALT+F8 and you'll see a lot of log output
[20:06] <armornick> Delano-240696195: never had problems like yours
[20:06] <blackxored> guntbert, +1
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> computers are a fad.. they will never get popular.
[20:06] <armornick> Delano-240696195: it's not a cult, since I just use it, and it 'just works'
[20:06] <xover> guys how do I get wmv working>
[20:06] <Delano-240696195> guntbert, three different times on three different PCs using three different distros (the only consistency being GNOME) tells me a lot
[20:06] <m4rk> what's the best rss reader for ubuntu
[20:06] <xover> I cannot find a codec pack for wmv
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  install the proper w32codecs pack from medibntu
[20:06] <armornick> xover: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:06] <blackxored> xover, ubuntu-restricted-extras will provide you with gstreamer plugins for that
[20:06] <armornick> xover: yes, what dr_willis says too
[20:07] <karmicuser> blackxored, there is just a few lines .
[20:07] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: yes - but about what/who?
[20:07] <armornick> Delano-240696195: have you tried KDE?
[20:07] <the_vdi> Last time I installed Windows 7, a static discharge flew out of my parallel port  blowing up my alarm clock then a kilo of tomatoes flew out of my CDROM, Delano
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  wmv could be any of several dozen+ codecs. Theres also the various virus/porn/russian-mafia codecs that you proberly dont want. :)
[20:07] <armornick> Delano-240696195: or Xfce?
[20:07] <blackxored> karmicuser, really try CTRL+ALT+F1 then, you must see the output of the boot process in log format
[20:07] <Delano-240696195> I'm in KDE now
[20:07] <ardchoille> !ot
[20:07] <Delano-240696195> But that's not the point
[20:08] <xover> I installed resticted exrtras, but no joy, do i need the w32 too?
[20:08] <Delano-240696195> You can't advertise Ubuntu as a "solid" OS when even its default GUI is riddled with bugs
[20:08] <armornick> Delano-240696195: vista. point taken
[20:08] <ardchoille> Delano-240696195: That's not productive. Please take this to another channel
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> *cough* Microsoft does *cough* *cough*  time for offtopic channel...
[20:09] <guntbert> Delano-240696195: please stop your ranting - ask for help or keep quiet
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> I AM asking for help
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> How do I fix it?
[20:09] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, a bug for you isnt `riddled` .. Ive used ubuntu since 5.10.  no issues
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> I tried the Ubuntu forums, no luck
[20:09] <Delano-240696195> But instead you all wanna argue with me
[20:09] <karmicuser> blackxored, okey i see a few lines . but it says just about my current boot . i mean from my curren tsession from livecd  . will dat info do any good ?
[20:09] <armornick> Delano-240696195: have you tried removing the .gnome, .gconf and similar folders, then logging out and on
[20:09] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: "Linux is a cult" is not asking for help. it's asking for a /kick
[20:09] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, explain your problem and wait.
[20:10] <Delano-240696195> Because I dared get annoyed at your software worship
[20:10] <Delano-240696195> mneptok, it's true; any criticism invites a slew of hostility
[20:10] <armornick> Delano-240696195: believe me, we get annoyed at linux sometimes too
[20:10] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: no, you dared to troll an IRC channel with no substantive input.
[20:10] <niella> KDE4 is a work in progress, you're a bit illusioned if you think it should be stable and solid
[20:10] <the_vdi> Go play up your own end
[20:10] <armornick> niella: he's actually talking about gnome
[20:11] <niella> lol
[20:11] <Delano-240696195> mneptok, well, sorry, but I get my back up when I ask for help and get told "well, *I* don't get that"
[20:11] <armornick> Delano-240696195: did you try what I asked?
[20:11] <Delano-240696195> It's like a woman going to a doctor explaining she's in labour and the doctor saying, "well, *I've* never experienced that"
[20:11] <blackxored> karmicuser, there are only a few cases when I've seen the livecd hang on boot, and it's on filesystem scanning and xorg problem after boot
[20:11] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. dmesg shows the mouse being recognised but mouse movement does not result in pointer movement. Anyone help, please?
[20:11] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, we dont work for you, just state the issue, and while you wait, go google
[20:11] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: and why? anyone aying "i don't get that" is in essence saying "can't reproduce it, so can't be of much help."
[20:12] <blackxored> karmicuser, without more information I can't tell, search for lines like FATAL, configuration problem, ERROR in the output
[20:12] <mbeierl> Delano-240696195: and then there's those who get annoyed when others don't immediately reply with something, anything, so someone dares to tell you they don't know and you get mad?
[20:12] <Delano-240696195> armornick, yes... no louck
[20:12] <karmicuser> blackxored, it's not my livecd hanging . its my original installed system dat is hanging . i said i'm currently chating from livecd since my original system is not working
[20:12] <TLF> hello
[20:12] <TLF> what's the channel for ubuntu-motu?
[20:12] <armornick> Delano-240696195: well, why don't you stick with KDE instead?
[20:13] <Pici> TLF: #ubuntu-motu surprisingly
[20:13] <Pici> :)
[20:13] <TLF> Pici: :D
[20:13] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: anything in your home directory that is configuration oriented that you need to save?
[20:13] <TLF> Pici: thanks
[20:13] <Delano-240696195> armornick, like I've got a choice
[20:13] <MindVirus> Hi guys. I'm trying to use VNC to connect to my home computer.
[20:13] <karmicuser> blackxored, the problem is with the original installed system and not with the livecd . u get it ?
[20:13] <Delano-240696195> armornick, how do I remove gnome from being an option on my boot page?
[20:13] <MindVirus> However, when I try login (my screen is locked), my shift key won't work for a character in my password.
[20:13] <armornick> Delano-240696195: uninstall gnome
[20:13] <blackxored> karmicuser, that's another story
[20:14] <MindVirus> I know this because shift won't work in the "leave message" box.
[20:14] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[20:14] <armornick> Delano-240696195: you should install kdm instead of gdm probably
[20:14] <mneptok> Delano-240696195: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[20:14] <karmicuser> blackxored, pls help me with dat story . i've no idea wat to do ..
[20:14] <armornick> mneptok: doesn't that only uninstall the metapackage?
[20:14] <porkpie> anyone had problems with swat not starting?
[20:15] <mneptok> armornick: it should purge the rest of the files as dependencies.
[20:15]  * mneptok has never done it, though
[20:15] <armornick> mneptok: if you do apt-get autoremove afterwards maybe
[20:15] <ardchoille> mneptok: Wouldn't he need --auto-remove ?
[20:15] <porkpie> I have installed from pkg and checked the config  ..... but still not listening on port 901
[20:15] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, have you tried disabling compiz? like try to ctrl-alt-F1, and do metacity --replace
[20:15] <Delano-240696195> Hell with it
[20:16] <Delano-240696195> linux will just get off my system
[20:16] <Delano-240696195> For good
[20:16] <the_vdi> cya!
[20:16] <the_vdi> Hi. I've got a USB mouse (AMU2604EUK) that won't work with Ubuntu 9.10. I tried the forum but no one replied to the post. dmesg shows the mouse being recognised but mouse movement does not result in pointer movement. Anyone help, please?
[20:16] <xover> dr willis: still having no joy after installed win64 and gstreamer
[20:16] <armornick> compiz shouldn't actually do anything to the panels, though
[20:16] <dassouki_> ubuntu says it wants to auto remove about 210mb of stuff, should i trust it
[20:16] <karmicuser> blackxored,  can u help me ? i'm waiting for some help .
[20:17] <xover> video/x-asf-unknown decoder
[20:17] <armornick> Delano-240696195: well, I truly believe in freedom of choice, so good luck :)
[20:17] <kstarr> i told you this one... http://hutss.com/
[20:17] <ardchoille> dassouki_: A better question to ask is should you trust what you told the computer to do. What are you trying to accomplish?
[20:17] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, have you tried earlier versions at all?
[20:17] <guntbert> kstarr: no advertising here
[20:17] <dassouki_> ardchoille: sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:17] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, karmic isnt the be-all end-all
[20:17] <Delano-240696195> GNOME has always been bug-riddled... the bar icons constantly switch around, the sound randomly mutes
[20:18] <armornick> Delano-240696195: that's actually a good idea, try hardy until the support ends
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, yes, I've been using Ubuntu on and off since Hardy
[20:18] <the_vdi> Gnome works fine here. Not perfect, but as good as Windows for me
[20:18] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, bar icons switched?  like, if you dont `lock` them?
[20:18] <ardchoille> dassouki_: The package manager is simply doing what you told it to do. Are you sure you want to remove all of those packages?
[20:18] <the_vdi> And all for nothing. Bargain
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, I tried locking; does f-all
[20:18] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, wow, and its still not working for you?  thats a first.
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> GNOME is just cr*p
[20:18] <Delano-240696195> duffydack, it did it way back in Hardy days too
[20:19] <armornick> most linux problems originate from hardware
[20:19] <the_vdi> Trolltastic
[20:19] <xover> guys i cannot play WMV and I ahve extras installed and codecs64
[20:19] <adamklu> I am having a problem with parallels on a mac and ubuntu, it seems if I install the operating system into a virtual machine, everything functions as expected, if I clone the virtual machine and boot into the clone, my internet is not functioning properly.  actially doing a ifconfig shows no eth0, ls /dev | grep eth shows nothing, and I do have something in lspci -- when i clone a vm, the only change is the network card which seems to be non-functional -- any
[20:19] <karmicuser> after a month and a half of ubuntu . now i seriously think about switching back to windows . if the system can't even boot , what use is it ;(
[20:19] <xover> whats is the beef? The error message is
[20:19] <xover> video/x-asf-unknown decoder
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> armornick: or bad config
[20:19] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, dont know then, Ive installed it for a lot of people and there have been issues, but resolved issues..
[20:19] <ShawnRisk> armornick: still same peoblems
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> xover: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:19] <Aethelred> armornick: if it's not on fire, it's a software problem.
[20:19] <dassouki_> ardchoille: i didn't put these packages on any list
[20:19] <Delano-240696195> armornick, I've been using Linux back since Mandriva was known as Mandrake 9.2
[20:19] <xover> yes mate
[20:19] <duffydack> Never seen that behaviour..  might be something the gnome devs might want to hear tho, if you feel like filing bugs :))
[20:20] <armornick> I actually meant driver incompatibilities. y'know, hardware drivers ;)
[20:20] <ardchoille> dassouki_: autoremove tells the package manager to remove any software that is no longer needed by the system.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> xover: and w32codecs (or w64codecs for 54bit ubuntu)
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> I also gave Corel Linux a try (yes, that long ago) and Red Hat 7
[20:20] <lyrae> hi all. i installed ubuntu on a laptop. during installation (liveCD in), i clicked on the proprietary icon and saw my nic listed. after installation however (after reboot), i click the icon and no drivers are listed, thus, no internet. why?
[20:20] <guntbert> karmicuser: we neither sell it nor do we make it - we merely give support to fellows needing help - so stop your "threatening"
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> I tried Ubuntu in 2005 and thought it had the potential to be a truly desktop OS
[20:20] <armornick> lyrae: are you using broadcom wireless?
[20:20] <Delano-240696195> But, no
[20:21] <adamklu> sorry, bad keystroke, if anyone answered my issue, please re-reply
[20:21] <Delano-240696195> It's still too rough around the edges
[20:21] <xover> yes yes this oe Proprietary codec binaries, x86_64 version
[20:21] <mneptok> !offtopic > Delano-240696195
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: there are other distributions of linux
[20:21] <lyrae> armornick: yes
[20:21] <Snausages> Delano-240696195: that's something I'm challenging lately...   been doing great with ubuntu on a netbook
[20:21] <Mike_lifeguard> Does ubuntu's xserver run as root?
[20:21] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: it should, yes
[20:21] <Snausages> Delano-240696195: I've definitely found a few holes where I can't do what I want, but I'm very impressed overall.
[20:22] <mneptok> !offtopic
[20:22] <Guest84684> I wanted to ask how do i convert from i386 to x86_64
[20:22] <Mike_lifeguard> armornick: Why should it run as root? That seems like a bad idea.
[20:22] <xover> actionparnsip, now what dude?
[20:22] <Delano-240696195> Snausages, it's still not good enough as a desktop OS
[20:22] <duffydack> I love gnome/compiz.. the scale/expo plugins are a god send.
[20:22] <Delano-240696195> It's clunky, buggy
[20:22] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: root only runs the core apps. Everything until the gdm, the rest is run by the user
[20:22] <ShawnRisk> Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address, this is on wireless connection.
[20:22] <erUSUL> Guest84684: reinstalling
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> xover: thats all i got dude
[20:22] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: if the root user didn't run X, only one user could use it
[20:23] <ShawnRisk> why can't this get an ip address?
[20:23] <karmicuser> guntbert, threatening ??? i am not threatening . i'am just saying my state . dear friend , i love the ubuntu philosophy and have been using ubuntu for about two months . all these time , i had many probs and with the help of guys like you , i fixed 'em and  learned a lot . but now the system doesn't boot and i've no clue of what to do . i've a project to complete and my state is really pathetic . i hope u understand :)
[20:23] <adamklu> i just swapped out my nic -- is there anything i need to do to recreate the /dev/eth0 device?
[20:23] <adamklu> it seems to be missing
[20:23] <ctmjr> someone get rid of him/her
[20:23] <mneptok> !offtopic | last request to move non-support topics out of this channel
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: depends what you need from an OS. Fits my needs fine (web, media player, chat, web browse)
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Delano-240696195: try a different distro, it may suit your needs better
[20:24] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: STOP
[20:24] <armornick> lyrae: sorry about this, but there's been a lot of ruckus; you're using a proprietary broadcom wireless chip?
[20:24] <Mike_lifeguard> armornick: I'm not sure I follow why that's the case. As far as I know, the xorg folks are trying to get things such that you do not have to grant gdm superuser privileges because it is bad practice and actually a security issue :\
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: k
[20:24] <guntbert> karmicuser: I only came in lately - please restate your problem - if possible all in one line
[20:24] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: thank you
[20:24] <duffydack> think he was just trolling.
[20:24] <TopKatz> got it sorted out, during my install I had an error about the screen saver failing.  Anyways, reinstalled and every thing is good
[20:24] <armornick> Mike_lifeguard: yes, but the core apps need access to the entire system, which only the root user has
[20:24] <lyrae> armornick: i believe so. built-in the laptop
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: np man, chillax
[20:25] <karmicuser> guntbert, when i boot , the system stays at the ubuntu logo . no change from there . dats my problem
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: do you have access to a wired network?
[20:25] <Nalleman> how can I make dolphin the default file browser?
[20:25] <lyrae> armornick: yes
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, then rebooting
[20:25] <lyrae> via apt-get?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> karmicuser: edit the boot options to hide the stupid boot screen which is hiding the useful info
[20:25] <armornick> lyrae: apt-get or synaptic
[20:26] <lyrae> Ok, be right back
[20:26] <guntbert> karmicuser: can you get to the grub menu and start recovery mode?
[20:26] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can cut a part of video with ffmpeg ? please help me
[20:26] <pfred1> ActionParsnip where are boot options?
[20:26] <Delano-240696195> guntbert, when I boot into GNOME, all my bars are gone... I can't right-click, I can't run alt+f2, I tried deleting the .gnome folders in my home directory, I tried uninstalling and installing gnome... NOTHING works... and this is the third time it's happened, on 3 seperate installations on 3 seperate systems, the only consistancy being gnome
[20:26] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: how would karmicuser do that?
[20:26] <virtuald> mike_lifeguard: I think it has to do with parts of the drivers being in userspace, and that with KMS we'll eventually run X as users.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: press e on the boot entry in grub to (e)dit it
[20:26] <zooko> Folks, what's the state of the art of union filesystems for Karmic?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Nalleman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665156
[20:27] <armornick> Delano-240696195: it sounds like gnome didn't even load :s
[20:27] <zooko> I need to build a boot drive on USB flash with, ideally, a union fs so that writes don't actually reach the flash drive but just get cached in a RAM disk.
[20:27] <karmicuser> guntbert, the grub menu comes . but the recovery mode also stucks at a line saying smthng like choice 1 or smthng like dat
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanel | Delano-240696195
[20:27] <pfred1> ActionParsnip thanks I'll try to figure out what that means.
[20:27] <Delano-240696195> armornick, it WON'T load, that's the thing... I waited half an hour
[20:27] <Mike_lifeguard> virtuald: k, that sounds likely. I did manage to find some old discussion of the hurdles to making it happen, so I'll read a bit :)
[20:27] <mahngiel> !log | mahngiel
[20:27] <Nalleman> ActionParsnip, thanks, i solved it by uninstalling f-spot and install digikam insted :)
[20:27] <guntbert> karmicuser: please be more specific - the wording of error messages is often important
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> pfred1: remove quiet and splash and you will see the boot messages
[20:28] <gerzel> Hey I'm trying to install eeebuntu on my netbook, so I have to have it on a usb/sd stick.  Do I have to extract the iso onto the usb or will just copying the iso over work?
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> ActionJacks_, I can't open a terminal. There's no menu. None of the keys work. Alt+f2 doesn't work.
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> Please read.
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> ActionParsnip*
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> still bugs with karmic?
[20:28] <pfred1> ActionParsnip can I simply edit grub.conf file or something?
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> im still using 9.04 version
[20:28] <Delano-240696195> Cool_GUY, yep
[20:28] <virtuald> mike_lifeguard: care to share? :)
[20:28] <karmicuser> guntbert, but to do that i need to reboot . i'm now from live cd . can i show u some log file or smthng ??
[20:28] <Cool_GUY> i want to upgrade when there's no bugs
[20:28] <armornick> Delano-240696195: did you try ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[20:29] <mahngiel> i can't seem to find this channel's log
[20:29] <Mike_lifeguard> virtuald: reading http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=xorg&a=2004-07&m=2727216 ATM
[20:29] <Delano-240696195> Yes, armornick
[20:29] <armornick> !logs
[20:29] <guntbert> mahngiel: not today
[20:29] <armornick> Delano-240696195: and it didn't do anything?
[20:29] <Delano-240696195> armornick, not a goddamn thing
[20:30] <jamie_> Okay
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Cool_GUY: yep and there are bugs with 9.04 too
[20:30] <A5c11Char5et> I is back
[20:30] <mahngiel> guntbert: so today's will be avail tmr?
[20:30] <guntbert> karmicuser: sorry, I'm a bit too tired for "double remote" debugging
[20:30] <karmicuser> ActionParsnip, how can i edit to hide the boot image ??
[20:30] <Delano-240696195> I know it's supposed to take you back to the prompt, armornick
[20:30] <armornick> Delano-240696195: wow, that means it's probably the xserver that isn't loading
[20:31] <armornick> Delano-240696195: which is way over my head
[20:31] <xover> butteractions
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> karmicuser: press e to edit the line then remove splash and quiet
[20:31] <xover> gotta have winxp save me again
[20:31] <guntbert> mahngiel: I don't know, the logs were not available a few days, today I see the ones from the last two days are back, but... (it seems to be a problem of the ubuntu server admins)
[20:31] <duffydack> Delano-240696195, does a livecd boot ok even ?
[20:31] <mahngiel> guntbert: thanks
[20:32] <gerzel> I need a program to write iso to a flash drive
[20:32] <Delano-240696195> Yep
[20:32] <ShawnRisk> seems I am left out to lunch
[20:32] <armornick> gerzel: unetbootin
[20:32] <karmicuser> okey guys , i'm gonna reboot and will tell u the exact errors . hope u'll be here wen i return :)
[20:33] <gerzel> thanks
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> gerzel: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[20:33] <Pici> 22
[20:33] <Delano-240696195> Linux is a good idea with a bad system backing it up
[20:34] <Kage_Jittai> can someone help me pirate a copy of Ubuntu?
[20:34] <armornick> Delano-240696195: like I've said earlier, most problems are due to hardware incompatibilities
[20:34] <guntbert> !ot | Kage_Jittai
[20:34] <quake_guy> Kage_Jittai, why do you need to pirate it?
[20:34] <Delano-240696195> armornick, you're drawing at straws
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Kage_Jittai: You can "pirate" one from http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[20:34] <armornick> Delano-240696195: a lot of people have linux working perfectly, but you're right that it should say on the website that not all computers work as good
[20:34] <Kage_Jittai> quake_guy: I don't wanna pay for it
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> quake_guy: play along, its quicker
[20:35] <seidos> Kage_Jittai: are you serious?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Kage_Jittai: you get get a nice free ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[20:35] <armornick> Kage_Jittai: just press next when you get a screen where you have to enter an activation key
[20:35] <fcuk112> Kage_Jittai: try linuxtracker.org, they have lots of pirated linux there.
[20:36] <xover> can anyone help me with wmv on 9.04 64bit
[20:36] <armornick> Kage_Jittai: the copy protection is rubbish :D
[20:36] <adamklu> i am looking for /etc/iftab to no avail, where is this located?
[20:36] <xover> i have installed win63codecs and ubuntu-extra-repositories
[20:36] <xover> no joy still.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> xover: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and w64codecs
[20:36] <armornick> xover: have you tried installing vlc?
[20:37] <POYO> Bonjour tout le monde
[20:37] <guntbert> !fr | POYO
[20:37] <xover> vlc is installed bro
[20:37] <armornick> guntbert: wow, you're fast :D
[20:37] <xover> its still not loading, i kow the vid works as i had it going in winxp
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> xover: tried mplayer? mplayer kicks ass
[20:38] <ardchoille> adamklu: I don't have any file or folder with that name on my Jaunty system
[20:38] <xover> will do
[20:38] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but not the one from vlc :)  good evenning dude
[20:38] <guntbert> armornick: i beg your pardon?
[20:38] <armornick> adamklu: what is it you're looking for?
[20:38] <armornick> guntbert: I was typing the same thing ;)
[20:39] <adamklu> armornick: ardchoille: found the file holding my ethernet mac address was /etc/udev/rules.d/*-persistent-net.rules
[20:39] <lyrae_> armornick: hi. it did not find the pkg. then again, it didnt find 'xchat' either..so im using chatzilla
[20:39] <guntbert> armornick: :)
[20:39] <Alan502> Good Day :) I want to format my pendrive, i have tried to manipulate it with fdisk and with mkfs but none of this work, they keep prompting: "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1
[20:39] <Alan502>  " How can i change the permissions of my drive to format it?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: howdy
[20:40] <armornick> lyrae: this morning, someone said the package was 'hiding', so can you try looking for it again? :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: mplayer is one of the oldest and respected players around
[20:40] <lyrae_> armornick: how? =(
[20:40] <xover> still no joy with mplayer
[20:40] <xover> GRRR
[20:40] <armornick> lyrae: karmic?
[20:41] <NKjoep> hi all
[20:41] <NKjoep> =)
[20:41] <armornick> NKjoep: hi
[20:41] <jlo> hi
[20:41] <Alan502> hey NKjoep if you have a question ask :)
[20:41] <N3OInc> Howdy folks
[20:41] <R3N3> xover: what's mplayer output ?
[20:41] <lyrae_> armornick: yep
[20:41] <armornick> lyrae: try download from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:41] <ctmjr> xover: sorry what are you trying to do?
[20:41] <NKjoep> Alan502: thank you, but i have no questions :) just here to chat
[20:41] <duffydack> Alan502, is it mounted
[20:41] <natbet> my gtk gets messed up when I switch to dual monitor on my laptop, any ideas? Nvidia card
[20:42] <duffydack> Alan502, for ease, just use gparted
[20:42] <armornick> NKjoep: this is the support forum though, for random chatting, try ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[20:42] <xover> "cannot find condec for audio format 0xA
[20:42] <Alan502> duffydack, it is not mounted, and gparted tells me that i dont have access to the drive
[20:42] <N3OInc> Is there an easy way to disable SSH login on a Ubuntu 9.10 workstation, I don't have the port open, but I have read that it's possible to SSH.  Am I incorrect in this?
[20:42] <R3N3> Alan502: try /dev/sdb instead /dev/sdb1
[20:42] <R3N3> Alan502: be careful pal ;-)
[20:42] <armornick> N3OInc: should be in login window
[20:43] <Nalleman> how can I change default file browser from nautilus to dolphin?
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: do you have ffmpeg installed ?
[20:43] <NKjoep> thank you armornick, sorry if i was not so specific... i'm here to read and talk following rules ^_^
[20:43] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but if i am correct mplayer dont have own codecs like vlc
[20:43] <chrisinajar> soneone told me there was an ubuntu command line tool for editing the crontab file... I can edit it by hand fine, but i want a package to add a cron job to the crontab so i'd like a more elegent way to edit it non-interactively... Anyone know anything about this?
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: try ffmpeg -i "your wmv file"
[20:43] <guntbert> N3OInc: sudo service ssh stop
[20:43] <R3N3> xover: and see what it says
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sure it doesm, it installs what it needs to run
[20:44] <iceroot> chrisinajar: copy a file to /etc/cron.d/
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: codecs are universal too so all players can use the codecs if they are installed :)
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: oh yeah, forgot about that folder...
[20:44] <iceroot> chrisinajar: cron is seaching every minute there for new files/jobs
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: i was only thinking about cron.daily and stuff >.>
[20:44]  * chrisinajar feels dumb :P\
[20:44] <chrisinajar> iceroot: heh, thanks!
[20:44] <N3OInc> guntbert: is this persistent? Again, its not running, but I have read that there is a config that allows it by default, if it were to run.
[20:45] <iceroot> chrisinajar: np
[20:45] <xover> OK, will try
[20:45] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: thats correct but vlc comes with some nice codecs (other apps not using)
[20:45] <N3OInc> guntbert: I'm just trying to harden it as best I can, and I read about disabling the ability to login SSH all together.  Maybe I am just unclear in what I am trying to accomplish.
[20:46] <Alan502> R3N3, when i try it with sdb it prompts : "/dev/sdb/: Not a directory"
[20:46] <guntbert> N3OInc: if I remember correctly it is persistent, the output of service should tell you...
[20:46] <R3N3> Alan502: sorry: /dev/sdb
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: not had an issue personally
[20:46] <Alan502> duffydack, i have trouble with gparted, when i click apply changes are not made; an error is displayed
[20:47] <Alan502> R3N3, mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb
[20:47] <N3OInc> guntbert: Alright thank you for that information.  Would you happen to know of any good tutorials specifically for 9.10 workstation hardening?
[20:47] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: try some nonfree things without a distribution which has ubuntu-restrcited-extras
[20:47] <Alan502> R3N3, im sure the device is plugged and unmounted, i have been googling for quite long
[20:47] <duffydack> Alan502, are there any partitions on it already ?
[20:47] <iceroot> Alan502: what about posting the error with pastebin to the channel
[20:47] <guntbert> N3OInc: sorry no
[20:47] <R3N3> Alan502: are you using sudo ?
[20:47] <lyrae> armornick: thanks so much for the help. it worked.
[20:48] <iceroot> R3N3: gksudo
[20:48] <armornick> lyrae: no problem
[20:48] <N3OInc> guntbert: No problem. Thanks again.
[20:48] <lyrae> :)
[20:48] <Alan502> R3N3, yes: alan@alan-desktop:~$ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb
[20:48] <Alan502> mkfs.vfat 3.0.3 (18 May 2009)
[20:48] <Alan502> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb
[20:48] <Alan502> iceroot, wait a minute....
[20:48] <lyrae> broadcom...always a hassle
[20:48] <armornick> lyrae: especially with karmic
[20:48] <lyrae> remember it being a problem for my desktop about 1.5yrs ago
[20:48] <lyrae> ah
[20:48] <karmicuser> guntbert,  i rebooted . may i give the exact line at which the system stops when run in recovery mode  ???
[20:48] <duffydack> Alan502, sdb is the drive, not a partition
[20:49] <duffydack> Alan502, make a partition first, then format it
[20:49] <armornick> it worked perfect in hardy to jaunty, until I got a kernel panic by installing the drivers using the official tools :D
[20:49] <Alan502> duffydack, i choose to delete the partition and then format it, with gparted
[20:49] <xover> R3N3, what output am i looking for?
[20:49] <guntbert> karmicuser: that would be helpful - if it is more than 3 lines please use !pastebin
[20:49] <Alan502> duffydack, let me copy the error in a pastebin for you
[20:49] <xover>  Stream #0.0: Audio: 0x000a, 22050 Hz, mono, s16, 20 kb/s
[20:49] <xover>     Stream #0.1: Video: MSS2 / 0x3253534D, 640x480, 6 kb/s, 15 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc
[20:49] <adamklu> Ubuntu enterprise cloud installation x64: No common CD-ROM drive was detected. -- 8.04 LTS x64 installs fine -- any ideas?
[20:50] <duffydack> Alan502,  pastebin fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[20:50] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is linux Mint and linux SUSE not free?
[20:50] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: yes it is
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> hey all, I got a weird issue in 9.10. Perhaps an exploit. Wget is running as root and is downloading 10MBs or more as we speak. Any idea what it could be considering I'm not using wget? o_O
[20:50] <guntbert> duffydack: he will need sudo fdisk...
[20:50] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: opensuse, not novell
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> lsof -i reveals this: wget      10364  root    4u  IPv4  65016      0t0  TCP 12.183.1.55:38561->balsa.lunarbreeze.com:www (ESTABLISHE
[20:51] <Pici> !offtopic | isolat3dsh33p armornick
[20:51] <karmicuser> guntbert,  here is the last two lines : "Begin : waiting for root file system  .... [2.775135] usb 1-7 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[20:51] <isolat3dsh33p> Pici, sorry
[20:51] <N3OInc> Does Ubuntu Enterprise use mutlicast for installation?
[20:51] <isolat3dsh33p> armornick, thanks :D
[20:51] <N3OInc> Might that be an issue for adamklu
[20:52] <armornick> isolat3dsh33p: no problem ;)
[20:52] <Gaming4JC> uhhh, wget is still downloading here
[20:53] <Gaming4JC> I guess I can kill the process, but it might be a rootkit? o_O
[20:53] <xover> I require mss2 codec, is there one?
[20:53] <armornick> Gaming4JC: what is it downloading?
[20:53] <Dreamglider> Runnung Ubuntu on a Dell with Intel Core2@2GHz, 2Gb DDR RAM@667MHz and it has been running great(i dont use any fancy stuff like beryl/Compiz) but now all of a sudden it's just "Crawling" along. and i dont know why!
[20:53] <Alan502> duffydack, iceroot http://paste.ubuntu.com/331943/
[20:53] <R3N3> xover: Im checking in google
[20:54] <R3N3> xover: It should work in mplayer
[20:54] <duffydack> Alan502, ahh... read only
[20:54] <R3N3> xover: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: I've honestly no idea. HTTP traffic according to wireshark. 10MB of it so far, and I'm not running it at all. It's on the root account, not mine.
[20:54] <xim_> is there a good image program besides gimp, something simple like mspaint, to use as an alternative every now and then?
[20:54] <armornick> Gaming4JC: sudo kill it and see what happens
[20:54] <sebsebseb> xim_: of course
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: lsof -i helped me figure out what it was, also FireStarter firewall.
[20:54] <duffydack> Alan502, does it have a switch or something to enable write access?  some flash drives do
[20:54] <dAlfa89_> xim_, mtpaint might do you
[20:54] <Gaming4JC> armornick: kk will do
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: Tuxpaint :)
[20:55] <adamklu> N3OInc: Looking up now
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: and there are some others
[20:55] <sebsebseb> xim_: Your on 9.10?
[20:55] <Alan502> duffydack, no it doesnt
[20:55] <guntbert> karmicuser: the last line seems harmless - but we would need the lines before that - another question: what did you do with your system before the problem surfaced?
[20:55] <adamklu> N3OInc: This is also happening on an ubuntu server 9.10 install x64 -- no enterprise cloud
[20:55] <Alan502> actually, i can perfectly use it in windows, duffydack , i dont know whats wrong here
[20:55] <armornick> Gaming4JC: have you manually installed any debs or compiled any sources?
[20:56] <xim_> sebsebseb, yes 910
[20:56] <xim_> im trying mtpaint tuxpaint and rtspaint
[20:56] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i bring down my wireless interface so i can switch modes? I used to use sudo ifdown wlan0 and it worked, but now it says interface wlan0 not configured
[20:56] <sebsebseb> xim_: ok so have you looked in the Software Centre for these programs?  How about Synaptic?
[20:56] <dandalion> I have some questions and am needing some help is there someone that can help me
[20:56] <N3OInc> adamklu: Heard, sorry. Just trying to help.
[20:56] <Gaming4JC> armornick: hmm yes I have. Since I use dial-up I use a lot of third-party deb places such as get-deb.net etc.
[20:56] <guntbert> !ask | dandalion
[20:56] <xim_> sebsebseb, i wanted someone to suggest one they liked
[20:56] <adamklu> N3OInc: looking it up now, that may help
[20:56] <xover> R3M3: it says it cant find audio codec in mplayer
[20:56] <Gaming4JC> armornick: still trying to get the wget pid btw...
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: If you want a basic Paint program,  that is well a bit more than just that since it's for kids, and so fun,  make sure to try Tuxpaint
[20:57] <armornick> Gaming4JC: just run 'sudo killall wget'
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: Tuxpaint :)
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: it has sounds as well,  and some already used pictures
[20:57] <sebsebseb> xim_: I mean pictures that you can just use
[20:57] <xim_> so its like kidpix for linux?
[20:57] <armornick> anyone know what happened to Paint.Mono?
[20:58] <mirak_> hi
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: I suspect the audiocodec is not supported by ffmpeg but not sure
[20:58] <armornick> hi
[20:58] <xover> R3M3: it says I need this wmsdmod
[20:58] <Gaming4JC> armornick: alreadly tried and it's not killed yet :P
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: did you try vlc ?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> xim_: just try it :)  and if you want something that is more like MS Paint there  are quite a few programs
[20:58] <R3N3> xover: because mplayer is based on ffmpeg
[20:58] <armornick> Gaming4JC: that's odd
[20:58] <karmicuser> guntbert, nothing special . two things i remember are : 1. deleted two users & 2. used cpu-freqscaling applet in the gnome panel
[20:58] <mirak_> is there a msn client that allow chat and cam ?
[20:58] <duffydack> R3N3,  I thought it was mencoder
[20:58] <Gaming4JC> armornick: I killed the pid and it's back under a new one... this is odd o_o
[20:58] <Snausages> Can anyone suggest a software package & method for doing a complete system backup to an external HDD?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> mirak_: AMSN
[20:58] <Alan502> duffydack, any ideaS?
[20:58] <xim_> sebsebseb, dAlfa89_ ok thanks
[20:59] <R3N3> duffydack: ?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: mtpaint is good as well
[20:59] <xover> tried totem, vlc, mplayer
[20:59] <mirak_> sebsebseb, ok I used it before, I forgot about it
[20:59] <xover> no joy
[20:59] <Gaming4JC> armornick: we can try locking it down at the firewall level. Just block port 80? lol
[20:59] <xim_> sebsebseb, im getting them both
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: plus there's uhmm
[20:59] <N3OInc> adamklu: I was just figuring that the routes to different networks may cause the issue, but I'm probably far out there.
[20:59] <sebsebseb> !info xpaint
[20:59] <helluvaCSmajor> why would my wireless interface not be configured if i am using it?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> xim_: there are two or so others that are like Paint, that are good
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: as well
[21:00] <armornick> Gaming4JC: you installed third-party debs so I don't know whether or not it might actually be a rootkit
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: xpaint being one of those
[21:00] <N3OInc> adamklu: And you were having issues without the cloud, so...
[21:00] <Gaming4JC> armornick: the IP is changing now to different websites wget is downloading. Somethings weird...
[21:00] <nytek_> i love how all programs in linux are so small and lightweight
[21:00] <nytek_> well most of them
[21:00] <sebsebseb> nytek_:  yeah :)
[21:00] <xim_> sebsebseb, i was just wondering because i couldnt figure out how to do simple things like draw squares in gimp, even tho i use it for more advanced stuff all the time.  im sure i could have just asked about that, but i always perfer to have a couple applications to choose between
[21:00] <guntbert> karmicuser: no I was asking more about things like: add/remove a HD, remove LVM, ....
[21:00] <Gaming4JC> armornick: hmm.. well I've never had this problem before and I do look for trusted debs
[21:00] <armornick> Gaming4JC: I'd try reinstalling, but I'm just paranoid ;)
[21:00] <sebsebseb> xim_: kpaint as well I think
[21:01] <sebsebseb> !info kpaint
[21:01] <xim_> lol ok
[21:01] <nytek_> sebsebseb: 1340kb
[21:01] <bjorne_> are that out someone updated howto for ubuntu 9.1 for openldap?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: just look in the software centre or Synaptic :)
[21:01] <nytek_> sebsebseb: lol, like a big picture :D
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: or both even
[21:01] <xim_> sebsebseb, talk about floodgates
[21:01] <xim_> hehe
[21:01] <faceface_> hey guys, just making a usb stick
[21:01] <sebsebseb> xim_: what?
[21:01] <faceface_> going to eeebuntu it up
[21:01] <karmicuser> guntbert, no apart from deleting two users , i didnt' do anything with the hardware or any other major changes
[21:01] <Gaming4JC> armornick: lol, not a bad idea but if this is an exploit I think I might take the time to track it down and benefit the community. It's not everyday I catch malware on linux like this. :D
[21:01] <nytek_> faceface_: woot woot
[21:01] <xim_> sebsebseb, youve told me like 6 of them
[21:01] <xim_> lol
[21:02] <faceface_> nytek_: yaeah
[21:02] <dandalion> I am very new to ubuntu I have made the cd an was installing it to my computer and wanted to partition my disc and got an error and was unable to do it.  My question is if i complete the install will it work?
[21:02] <faceface_> dandalion: insert glass of water
[21:02] <sebsebseb> xim_: oh ok, well  Desktop Linux is all about choice, from the distro, to  apps for whatever you want to do
[21:02] <armornick> Gaming4JC: alright, thanks in advance for helping the community :D
[21:02] <sebsebseb> xim_: there tends to be a few apps for the same task
[21:02] <nytek_> dandalion: it wont go any further unless you partition or use the entire disk
[21:02] <sebsebseb> nytek_: like a big picture?/
[21:02] <xim_> sebsebseb, yeah i like that, thats why i figured id just get a couple extra for doing simple things
[21:03] <R3N3> xover: sorry man, I would transcode the file in windows to ogg or mpeg or someting else
[21:03] <sebsebseb> xim_: ok
[21:03] <guntbert> karmicuser: sorry, today thats the end of my possibilities - gotta have some shut eye :)
[21:03] <karmicuser> guntbert,  here are a few last lines from my /var/log/messages : http://pastebin.com/m593b551a
[21:03] <sebsebseb> xim_: well I would be interested to know what you think of Tuxpaint :)  you can do that in pm, since  off topic really
[21:04] <xover> good idea
[21:04] <dandalion> I was thinking of using the entire disc and letting my windows go bye bye.. i just wanted to make sure that it works and that i dont have too many bugs to work out. So, why does it ask me if i want to open up in windows or ubuntu when i turn on my computer now
[21:04] <xover> cheers anyway
[21:04] <R3N3> xover: good luck
[21:04] <R3N3> xover: see ya
[21:04] <nytek_> sebsebseb: 1340 kb, what is that 1.2mb? a big picture file :D lol but its a program!
[21:04] <ShawnRisk> I am having so much trouble I am going to throw up
[21:04] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: whats up?
[21:04] <Stupendoussteve> dandalion: So you can still use windows if you want to?
[21:04] <ShawnRisk> just my wireless is never going to work and I have tried everything
[21:04] <armornick> dandalion: if you took the default options, you are doing a dual boot
[21:04] <dandalion> yes thats what i am on now
[21:05] <xover> i think its 64bit ubuntu being a bstrd
[21:05] <nytek_> dandalion: youll be fine with an entire disk install, it will force you to learn :D
[21:05] <duffydack> Alan502, no ideas yet........
[21:05] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: what card do you have?
[21:05] <karmicuser> guntbert, okey . thnx for helping nyway . i think i 've to switch back to win (not threatening okey ;) ) coz i've to do a project . thnx buddy
[21:05] <sebsebseb> nytek_: not sure what you mean, but   uhmm   a  / for a distro can be like 10GB in size, and can have loads of apps installed in that.   However Windows XP SP3 will take up about 5GB.  and Vista takes up like 16GB
[21:05] <dandalion> i am oke with that nytek.. i just want to make sure that it will work
[21:05] <duffydack> xover, what video format is this?
[21:05] <Snausages> anyone? whole-system backup utility?
[21:05] <nytek_> sebsebseb: yeah, my distro will never be that high. i barely have any gui apps
[21:05] <ShawnRisk> Broadcom BCM4311
[21:06] <xover> duffyduck, wmv
[21:06] <duffydack> Snausages, clonezilla
[21:06] <guntbert> karmicuser: nothing strange  I can see here - sorry that we missed it - good luck
[21:06] <mka> Snausages: Partimage
[21:06] <armornick> karmicuser: you could also try 32-bit
[21:06] <duffydack> xover, is it small enough to send ?
[21:06] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: what distro are you running? ubuntu 9.10?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> nytek_: well even with loads of games and stuff,  10GB won't just be filled up
[21:06] <Nalleman> Can I sync evolution against my google calendar?
[21:06] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: yes
[21:06] <Stupendoussteve> dandalion: If you have plenty of disk space there is no need to get rid of Windows until you are positive you won't use it again. Set Ubuntu as the default with a short timeout and you can still learn
[21:06] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: check restricted drivers?
[21:06] <nytek_> sebsebseb: true true, the beauty of linux
[21:06] <armornick> sebsebseb, nytek_: unless you install 3D games ;)
[21:06] <nytek_> sebsebseb: !
[21:06] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: how?
[21:07] <xover> never say never with windows guys, lol.
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: no time for that
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: :(
[21:07] <dandalion> how do i set it as the default
[21:07] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: system > restricted drivers
[21:07] <karmicuser> guntbert,  one last question . could deleting two users 've caused this ? ny possibility ??
[21:07] <duffydack> Alan502,  tried deleting the partition from fdisk ?
[21:07] <nytek_> xover: lol, indeed
[21:07] <armornick> ShawnRisk: whatever you do, don't install broadcom STA from the restricted drivers menu
[21:07] <nytek_> armornick: why?
[21:07] <armornick> ShawnRisk: it gives kernel panic, install bcmwl-kernel-source manually
[21:07] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: hardware drivers?
[21:08] <armornick> ShawnRisk: yes
[21:08] <duffydack> xover,  I`d like that file to see if it wont play.
[21:08] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: follow armornick's tip if you get a kernel panic lol
[21:08] <ctmjr> xover you can try to encode it to avi  this is the basic encoding options       mencoder  file.wmv -ovc raw -oac mp3lame -o test.avi
[21:08] <xover> the moment you leave that command line! lol
[21:08] <ShawnRisk> armornick: I did and I am still having trouble
[21:08] <duffydack> xover, could just install ffmpeg and convert it as well.
[21:08] <Alan502> yep, duffydack , but still i have not write access to the drive apparently
[21:08] <Snausages> duffydack: clonezilla does look like what I want.  Reckon I can install that into my ubuntu installer stick?
[21:08] <xover> oh really!
[21:08] <guntbert> karmicuser: I cannot imagine how - so I'd say "no" - my guess would rather be a wrong line in the grub config pointing to the "root" device
[21:08] <xover> ok cool
[21:09] <Alan502> duffydack, do you know how can i change a drive permissions ?
[21:09] <southwind> where can i learn how linux works
[21:09] <armornick> ShawnRisk: have you installed bcmwl-kernel-source?
[21:09] <armornick> southwind: ubuntuguide.org
[21:09] <nytek_> southwind: google?
[21:09] <southwind> thanks
[21:09] <xover> what is the mmpeg encoder comman?
[21:09] <southwind> armonick
[21:09] <guntbert> !tldp | southwind
[21:10] <ShawnRisk> armornick: yes
[21:10] <sebsebseb> armornick: southwind that's unoffical and some of the ops don't like that link being given out in here, since they have some advice they don't like
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !new |  southwind
[21:10] <karmicuser> guntbert, i dont find any menu.lst file in grub directory in karmic . what is the new configuration file name ?
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: Ubuntu Pocket Guide :)
[21:10] <Alan502> How can i change a drives permissions to read AND write?
[21:10] <armornick> sebsebseb: oh, didn't know that, actually
[21:10] <armornick> Alan502: right click and set permissions
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: and if you want to well find out about Linux and such in general, this site is good
[21:10] <sebsebseb> southwind: I mean if you want to start reading articles
[21:10] <southwind> k
[21:10] <southwind> :)
[21:11] <Alan502> where on dolphin?
[21:11] <mka> guys, I am still on Jaunty, is it safe if I upgrade my grub to grub2? any advantages if I manage to upgrade?
[21:11] <dsample> Hi.  I'm hoping there's someone here that can help with a mess made by the Alternate install
[21:11] <sebsebseb> southwind: http://www.linuxtoday.com
[21:11] <Alan502> armornick, on dolphin?
[21:11] <armornick> Alan502: oh, don't know, I only use nautilus
[21:11] <sebsebseb> mka: no not really
[21:11] <ShawnRisk> armornick: what else do I do?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> mka: you won't really get any proper advantage if doing that, also things might go wrong on you
[21:11] <Alan502> armornick, how can i make it from the command line=
[21:11] <coz_> dsample,  well  tell us the "mess"  someone who may be familiar with it can help
[21:12] <dsample> I installed it, but I was expecting it to ask me about the bootloader, but it didn't, and now it's overwritten a Pointsec encryption bootloader that is used on my main (windows) drive
[21:12] <armornick> Alan502: chmod, but I don't really know the syntax
[21:12] <Alan502> armornick, does chmod work on devices? like /dev/sdb ?
[21:12] <armornick> ShawnRisk: did you do 'sudo modprobe wl' in a terminal?
[21:12] <coz_> dsample,  yeah I dont recall the alternate cd asking about bootloaders
[21:12] <sebsebseb> mka: also  stay on 9.04 for now :)  then  I would suggest doing a clean install when 10.04 is out,  that way you get Grub 2  by default, and Ext4
[21:12] <xover> it failed lol, because it cant find the codec to read it
[21:12] <xover> LOL
[21:12] <guntbert> karmicuser: please look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, right in the beginning is stated where the real config sits
[21:12] <coz_> sebsebseb,  absolutely
[21:12] <armornick> Alan502: I don't know about that
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, you shouldnt need to set permissions, using sudo should allow all you need..
[21:13] <sebsebseb> coz_: to what? all of that?
[21:13] <mka> sebsebseb: ok thanks, I rather stay on grub 1 then  :)
[21:13] <coz_> sebsebseb,  yes :)
[21:13] <sebsebseb> mka: for now yeah
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, its fat32, it doesnt do permissions like that anyway...
[21:13] <duffydack> Alan502, there is something else going on here..
[21:13] <Nalleman> Is it possible to add a google calendar in Evolution 2.28
[21:13] <guntbert> !grub2 | karmicuser
[21:13] <xover> Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo) not available.
[21:13] <sebsebseb> mka: then doing a clean install of Ubuntu with 10.04 when that comes out, is a good idea as I suggested.  by the way if you do that, you can also set up a nice seperate /home which can be useful
[21:14] <dsample> coz_: my first time running the alternate install... I saw a list of install steps after I had an error with networking, and I'm sure I saw 'grub bootloader', 'lilo bootloader', 'no bootloader'
[21:14] <Alan502> duffydack, i have been struggling with it all the morning!!! i dont know what the hell is happening! linux is though :S
[21:14] <dsample> but I was obviously wrong
[21:14] <ShawnRisk> armornick: restarting for a bit, something is wrong
[21:14] <dsample> What I'm hoping is that someone might know if it can be reversed
[21:14] <mka> sebsebseb: I understand
[21:14] <Alan502> in windows it would be just less than five clicks
[21:14] <coz_> dsample,   mm   ok I rarely use the alternate cd anymore  so my information may be old
[21:14] <sebsebseb> mka: easier to set up one when Ubuntu is being installed, than after woulds
[21:14] <duffydack> Alan502, did you make this partition yourself before?  or did it come like this.
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, the last time i partitioned it was to install gparted live, i did it with mksf
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, that time it worked alright
[21:15] <Alan502> duffydack, dont know what its happening now tho
[21:15] <duffydack> Alan502, is it old?
[21:15] <mka> sebsebseb: It's just my grub 1 "guruhood" is all thrown in a thrash now that grub 2 is the new kid (and grub 1 being obsolete)
[21:16] <sebsebseb> mka: gurhood??
[21:16] <Alan502> duffydack, about two years... but i mean, it still works on windows! i just haven given up
[21:16] <superfirelord42> mka, nothing says you *cant* use grub legacy
[21:16] <userone> my usb modem worked flawlessly in 9.04, but since i have upgraded to 9.10 i have to use 'safely remove drive' before the usb modem works. why is this and do i need to fix it?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> mka: yes that's right upstream Grub no longer do  the old Grub,  but many distros still do, meaning you can still get proper support for it
[21:16] <duffydack> Alan502, try to format it in windows then.......
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, flash drives only have a finite number of write operations...  you never know, just could be.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, well i think it is the only way out
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, >.< damn linux
[21:17] <sebsebseb> mka: Mandriva 2010 uses the old Grub still :)   I think quite a lot of other distros do as well with their latest version.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, thank you anyway, thanks for your help!
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, try format it in windows first.
[21:17] <slapchop> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0,0,0
[21:17] <sebsebseb> mka: the ones that are still being made I mean
[21:17] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[21:17] <Alan502> duffydack, i'll tell you how it goes
[21:17] <duffydack> Alan502, windows wont format it if its reached its life
[21:18] <duffydack> Alan502, maybe why its set to read only
[21:18] <mka> sebsebseb: you are right
[21:18] <N3OInc> adamklu: Any luck?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> mka: it's fine to still be using 9.04, with the old Grub,  since 9.04 is still supported by security updates
[21:18] <Alan502> duffydack, that is what i assume, it is set to read only BY LINUX but in windows i can write into it
[21:18] <Alan502> duffydack, im rebooting to see how it goes, thanks
[21:19] <noisecontrol> dude this font is a trip
[21:19] <adamklu> N3OInc: looks like it is a problem with the code as 9.04 works but not 9.10.  I will just install 8.04 LTS instead.  Oh well :(.
[21:19] <sebsebseb> adamklu: Why not just use 9.04 for now?
[21:19] <jakerbaker> Hello Everyone!!
[21:19] <adamklu> sebsebseb: I may do that but I have an 8.04 LTS template already and can deploy a server in about 2 minutes
[21:20] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:20] <ShawnRisk> there seems to be no eth0 on here
[21:20] <dsample> Any experience with Pointsec?  Is there a way to repair the 'bootloader' login prompt?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> adamklu: oh server
[21:20] <adamklu> sebsebseb: don't really want to download the image, etc.
[21:20] <sebsebseb> adamklu: for proper serverss,  use the LTS yeah
[21:20] <adamklu> sebsebseb: this was going to be a test rails and dev server -- so versioning wasn't really an issue, i like new on dev boxes
[21:21] <sebsebseb> adamklu: oh ok
[21:21] <pfred1> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to enable single click action in Gnome?
[21:21] <adamklu> anyone know of some good dvorak keyboards for sale?
[21:21] <clone_> hello all am needing some help launching ati catalyst as super user
[21:21] <seevee> can't write or modify "swappiness" - even as root. Suggestions?
[21:22] <adamklu> I'm a programmer and use the keyboard for at least 12 hours a day.
[21:22] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:22] <dAlfa89_> adamklu, can't you rearrange the keys and the layout options on a qwerty keyboard?
[21:22] <seevee> I tried sudo chmod ugo+w swappiness but that wasn't allowed either. Help?
[21:23] <adamklu> dAlfa89_: yes, but i need dvorak for server work and i cant really install the servers with dvorak as the default as others that need to access in case of an emergency would be like wtf
[21:23] <cwraig> hi all is there any way that i can open an xdmcp connection in a new window on my client
[21:23] <cwraig> so its more like remote desktop
[21:23] <mia> hello
[21:23] <adamklu> and when i say need i really mean -- to be worth anything when typing
[21:23] <Oddlot> Is there any way to revert to the default wireless driver installed by ubuntu?
[21:23] <pfred1> Is there a panel in Gnome where i can configure it to disable double clicking?
[21:24] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Tried the mouse preferences?
[21:24] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I'll give that a look thanks.
[21:24] <coolkehon> hi
[21:24] <ctmjr> xover you still here?
[21:24] <coolkehon> I really need some help
[21:24]  * noisecontrol is making a home DVD - the render time is out of control
[21:24] <coolkehon> my cd burner broke on me while installing distros
[21:24] <sebsebseb> !ask |  coolkehon
[21:24] <coolkehon> i need to install ubuntu
[21:25] <coolkehon> mk
[21:25] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve doesn't look possible just double click timeout I think Gnome likes to double click :(
[21:25] <sebsebseb> !install | coolkehon
[21:25] <userone> can i play orginal dvds without libdvdcss2?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> userone: encrypted commercial DVD's without that no
[21:25] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Try in nautilus. Open a folder and look for preferences, I think it's in File or Edit (not in gnome atm)
[21:25] <iceroot> userone: yes, lindvd (non free dvd player)
[21:25] <sebsebseb> userone: unless you do it in say a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu for example
[21:25] <mrgenixus> hi, I am having that common issue with blank screen on install using Geforce 9500Gt
[21:26] <iceroot> userone: lindvd == powerdvd for linux
[21:26] <sebsebseb> userone: or what  iceroot  put I guess then
[21:26] <mrgenixus> is there an easy way toget it to load?
[21:26] <coolkehon> ok basically i need to create a usb fro an alternate cd because i want an encrypted swap and root partitons for ubuntu how can i do this and i looked at the guides but didnt understand them to well
[21:26] <duffydack> I dont see a util to trim a dynamic hd file in virtualbox?
[21:26] <iceroot> duffydack: #vbox
[21:26] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I am not familiar with nautilus is it like the window manager that comes with Ubuntu 9.10?
[21:26] <mrgenixus> I tried using a server-install disk, since I had that... would I be better off using the alternate cd?
[21:26] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It's the file manager
[21:26] <adamklu> I am having some severe problems with our asterisk server and would like to setup an ubuntu server for some cool netbooting to deploy the asterisk server -- any good resources out there that would help with netboot and ubuntu -- also what is recommended for asterisk build?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> iceroot: ah yes I forgot about that, there are commercial DVD playing software's that are paid for, for Desktop Linux
[21:26] <iceroot> sebsebseb: correct
[21:26] <paul68> hi how can I connect to my laptop from outside my network crossing 2 different subnets on my server(which is setup as a rooter)
[21:26] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It's what the icons are displayed in :) So its preferences should let you choose single click
[21:26] <ctmjr> xover: try it this way if not you can ask in #mplayer mencoder file.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=56 -o test.avi
[21:27] <iceroot> sebsebseb: in germany libdvdcss is ilegal (imo)
[21:27] <userone> iceroot: thanks, i will check that out. whats the issue with libdvdcss2? is it not open source or restricted in certain countries?
[21:27] <coolkehon> i'm on backtrack 4 is there a way to install ubuntu from this inside a cryptluks container
[21:27] <iceroot> userone: restricted
[21:27] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve OK I would like single click for desktop launchers too I'm new to Gnome was a KDE fan for a long time.
[21:27] <clone_> does anyone have any expericnce with ati graphics cards?
[21:27] <iceroot> userone: but its working very fine
[21:27] <zane> FUCK
[21:27] <sebsebseb> iceroot: well it's part of medibuntu
[21:27] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve boy is the new KDE botched up!
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  iceroot userone
[21:28] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: Open up a folder then go to Edit > Preferences > Behavior
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !language | zane
[21:28] <ctmjr> zane: watch your language
[21:28] <duffydack> found it.. but there should be a gui option for it by now ,,, hmm
[21:28] <iceroot> sebsebseb: i know :) but not in all countrys
[21:28] <jillsmitt> hi
[21:28] <coolkehon> !install
[21:28] <userone> iceroot: ok..thanks for the lindvd tip
[21:28] <iceroot> sebsebseb: in russia its no problem (like everything else..)
[21:28] <mMezquitale> anyone here has a Dell mini netbook?  I ordered a mini netbook and I'm wonderin what version should  install?xubuntu? net remix??
[21:28] <zane> sebsebseb, sorry that was soposed to be in another chanell but this one connected while i was typing
[21:28] <iceroot> userone: why not using libdvdcss2?
[21:28] <coolkehon> !automate
[21:28] <sebsebseb> iceroot: yeah well  stuff like that sure, but  still people recomend it here a lot
[21:28] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve sweet! that's one down now let me find that for the desktop
[21:28] <kostkon> mMezquitale, unr
[21:29] <kostkon> !unr | mMezquitale
[21:29] <Stupendoussteve> pfred1: It should carry over
[21:29] <iceroot> sebsebseb: sure, why not? ;)
[21:29] <michel> ehj
[21:29] <paul68> hi how can I connect to my laptop from outside my network crossing 2 different subnets on my server(which is setup as a rooter)
[21:29] <michel> wazzzzzuuuppp
[21:29] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve whoot! It does!
[21:29] <sebsebseb> zane: I think you need to appologize to ctmjr
[21:29] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve yeah thanks later ugly new KDE hellp working Gnome
[21:29] <iceroot> paul68: put the router in all subnets (eth0, eht0_0) and enable ip-forwarding
[21:29] <Stupendoussteve> You're welcome :)
[21:29] <mMezquitale> kostkon, thanks
[21:30] <zane> sorry dude
[21:30] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve though i have to admit I still like konq for a file manager
[21:30] <Stupendoussteve> It's a big change
[21:30] <nytek_> pfred1: no way, thunar all the way
[21:30] <nytek_> pfred1: :D
[21:31] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I ran another distro for like 7 years but it was time to upgrade
[21:31] <damjan__> what is the name for ubuntu studio room?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: Back Tract 4 is not a Desktop OS
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: it should not be used as one
[21:31] <Stupendoussteve> thunar support smb yet? ;)
[21:31] <pfred1> Stupendoussteve I had KDE 3.1.1
[21:31] <mMezquitale> kostkon, unr can be installed to a USB thumb drive?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: also it's not Ubuntu so  this isn't the channel really for help with it
[21:31] <mMezquitale> damjan__, #ubuntustudio
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire> Guys, I installed the RTL8185L driver, and now thats not quite working properly, so I need to revert back to ubuntu's default wireless driver for my card. How would I go about doing that?
[21:31] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i know but it works
[21:31] <kostkon> mMezquitale, yeap
[21:31] <ShawnRisk> reinstalling ubuntu 9.10, and than going to install wireless drivers
[21:31] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i know but it works and i'm trying to install ubuntu form backtrack
[21:31] <ShawnRisk> hope this works
[21:31] <userone> iceroot: just trying to use open source (or non-restricted) whenever i can, but I didnt know an open source alternative to libdvdcss2
[21:31] <Stupendoussteve> GodfatherofEire: Did you install it through the hardware panel?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: it's for a specialist purpouse, DON'T use it as a Desktop OS!
[21:32] <GodfatherofEire> Stupendoussteve, no, had to compile it from source
[21:32] <m4rk> I got a weird error that points to this page http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[21:32] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i just happend to have it on a usb and dvd burner broke
[21:32] <tck9> what is ip6tnl0 interface for ?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: also  from Back Track uh, why not do it normalley?
[21:32] <MatBoy> mhh, my login screen flickers on 9.10 after the upgrade some time ago... I can only use one Videocard it seems
[21:32] <sebsebseb> !usb |  coolkehon
[21:32] <MatBoy> no GDM start, nothing
[21:32] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, because i need it on a cryptluks partition
[21:33] <iceroot> userone: lindvd is not open-source :)
[21:33] <paul68> iceroot: ip forwarding is enabled the setup is as follows public ip=> router (192.168.0.0)<=> (192.168.0.xx)server(192.168.3.xx)<=>wifi switch=>wirelessnetwork including laptop
[21:33] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, i tried it and it asked for a cd when i did it from a usb drive
[21:33] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: not sure what that is, well whatever as long as your not using it as an actsaul Desktop OS, I guess
[21:33] <Blaher> Hello!
[21:33] <Montebest> boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location
[21:33] <pfred1> MatBoy I had big issues with my video adapter and 9.10 i ended up swapping out the card.
[21:33] <m4rk> I got a weird error that points to this page http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/ can u help me
[21:33] <m4rk> plus, gwibber icons are too big. how do i fix that?
[21:33] <Montebest> and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire> Stupendoussteve, any ideas?
[21:33] <Avp>  I want to contribute for opensource, but I dont ve an idea wot to do. can any one help me???
[21:33] <xover> ctmjr: yes
[21:34] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: Many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04, try a clean install :)
[21:34] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, so how would i get it to install the from a usb drive using the alternate cd so i can do cryptluks
[21:34] <m4rk> Avp can u fix this please http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[21:34] <m4rk> Avp plus gwibber icons are too big. can u fix that
[21:34] <Blaher> Avp: What do you like?
[21:34] <sebsebseb> coolkehon: I guess you can't
[21:34] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: damn you are sure ?
[21:34] <Avp> thanx , I dont ve any Idea about what to do
[21:34] <MatBoy> pfred1: damn my FX5200 didn't work well anymore
[21:34] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:34] <userone> iceroot: that the problem. also I have a friend who LOVES windows and he bet me GBP 100 i couldn't use ONLY open source software to match his applications. so far i am losing with the dvd player.
[21:34] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: about how many people got issues after upgrade, yes very sure indeed
[21:34] <Blaher> Avp: You like graphics?
[21:34] <coolkehon> sebsebseb, well is there a way i can install it from within baktrak
[21:35] <MatBoy> pfred1: my 8600 did well one one monitor
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !love > userone
[21:35] <MatBoy> I have now 2x 9800GTX in it :)
[21:35] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: damn !
[21:35] <Avp> I like system level programin, like adding some new features to an existing application
[21:35] <ctmjr> xover: try it this way if not you can ask in #mplayer mencoder file.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=56 -o test.avi
[21:35] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: what is the best way to reinstall it by keeping the same apps as I had ?
[21:35] <Blaher> Avp: What kind of application?
[21:35] <iceroot> userone: libdvdcss2 is open-source
[21:35] <pfred1> MatBoy I could have probably fixed my problem some other way but I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it.
[21:35] <Montebest> @ mstboy you dont have too
[21:35] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: making a list of your apps, and re installing them from the repo?
[21:35] <paul68> iceroot: ip forwarding is enabled the setup is as follows public ip=> router (192.168.0.0)<=> (192.168.0.xx)server(192.168.3.xx)<=>wifi switch=>wirelessnetwork including laptop
[21:36] <MatBoy> pfred1: so you took another card ?
[21:36] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:36] <brova> is there anyone here who can provide some help using awk in terminal i have a noob question in college im stuck on
[21:36] <Avp> any desktop application
[21:36] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I would like some kickstart thingy :)
[21:36] <userone> sebsebseb; very funny..i will use that on my friend
[21:36] <pfred1> MatBoy yeha popped out hte old one and dropped in another changed from ATI to nvidia
[21:36] <erUSUL> brova: #awk ?
[21:36] <iceroot> paul68: router has the pubic-ip?
[21:36] <erUSUL> !ask | brova
[21:36] <MatBoy> pfred1: I have nvidia and it now happens... when I start GDM it starts
[21:36] <paul68> iceroot: yes
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: when I said issues  I didn't mean with your cards, I meant in general
[21:37] <MatBoy> was the 5200 card not supported anymore in the latest drivers ?
[21:37] <pfred1> MatBoy with the old one everytime I dragged a window I'd get these artifacts on my desktop looked like a meteor shower or something
[21:37] <Montebest> HEY MATBOY @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:37] <piti> hi #ubuntu
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: What can happen after an upgrade from  a previous version of Ubuntu is that hardware that used to work,  doesn't in the new version
[21:37] <jigal> hello i tried to login to my phpmyadmin with root and empty pw
[21:37] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok
[21:37] <paul68> iceroot: iptables running on the serverside
[21:37] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok, I need a reinstall
[21:37] <MatBoy> damn
[21:37] <jigal> doesn't work
[21:37] <jigal> but on mysql works
[21:37] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: maybe, maybe not
[21:37] <Montebest> NO YOU DONT MATBOY
[21:37] <iceroot> paul68: and ip-forwarind in /proc/...?
[21:37] <Montebest> @ matboy: boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:38] <jigal> anyone know why?
[21:38] <Avp> m4rk::can u tell me wot is gwibber
[21:38] <brova> i have a file, "f1" which has hundreds of lines. how can i use awk to add the sum of all the lines in my text document
[21:38] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: it seems  Montebest  may be able to help so do what they say I guess
[21:38] <pfred1> MatBoy did you try running nvidia-xconfig ?
[21:38] <piti> I have a question about network manager: it doesn't let me having two network interfaces at the same time. both work, but I can't use them simultaneously
[21:38] <piti> one is ethernet, this other usb
[21:38] <erUSUL> brova: you want to count the lines? as "wc -l" ?
[21:38] <MatBoy> Montebest: I need you :)
[21:39] <Montebest> i had that problem, it pissed me off to no ent
[21:39] <Montebest> d
[21:39] <Montebest> boot to the previous version, find your video drivers, write down there location, and then reinstall from recovery mode on the new version
[21:39] <ZaNeIuM> ActionParsnip: that last step seemed to work for me thank you
[21:39] <iceroot> paul68: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[21:39] <koko_> how can you make more space in a guest session in 9.10
[21:39] <userone> iceroot: ok..so maybe i wont include 'restricted' software as part of the bet :-)
[21:39] <pfred1> MatBoy I dropped to init 1 and ran nvidia-xconfig and things worked better for me.
[21:39] <iceroot> userone: yes :) good idea
[21:39] <MatBoy> Montebest: but I don't get it, boot in recovery mode ?
[21:39] <erUSUL> brova: awk 'END {print NR}' file
[21:39] <brova> erUSL: i want to mathematically add the sum of the lines
[21:39] <Montebest> you use grub right
[21:39] <ShawnRisk> why is broadcom wireless so bad
[21:40] <brova> erUSUL: i want to mathematically add the sum of the lines *****
[21:40] <jigal> question: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !who |  Montebest
[21:40] <jigal> i login
[21:40] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: its not, im using it without a problem
[21:40] <userone> iceroot: i have to say, to be fair to my friend, he was blown away when he saw Blender and that it was all open source
[21:40] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: which number?  I have 4311
[21:40] <MatBoy> Montebest: yes but what "previous" version ?
[21:40] <erUSUL> brova: so lines are numbers (1 column) ? you want to sum them ?
[21:40] <pfred1> userone I was blown away when I tried to use Blender
[21:40] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: I think maybe they mean 9.04 Live CD
[21:40] <ShawnRisk> nytek_: can I pm you?
[21:40] <Avp> I want to contribute for opensource, but I dont ve an idea wot to do. can any one help me??? I realy like to add new features to any existing desktop application, but I dont ve any idea plz help me
[21:41] <Montebest> !who |Matboy
[21:41] <nytek_> ShawnRisk: sure
[21:41] <iceroot> userone: like apache, firefox, mysql, openoffice, linux, open-exchange and so on
[21:41] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and if your going to be getting one anyway, maybe you should just remove 9.10 and put that on :)
[21:41] <erUSUL> !participate
[21:41] <iceroot> userone: quake3 also
[21:41] <Montebest> lo
[21:41] <MatBoy> Montebest: I do :)
[21:41] <MatBoy> Montebest: you didn't :P
[21:41] <brova> erUSUL yes, so far my cut command i am using is:   cut -f4 -d ' ' f1
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Montebest: also I did the who  thing at you, not him :D
[21:41] <brova> erUSUL: im trying to add the sum of that output, i cant seem to get my head around this one
[21:41] <jigal> QUESTION: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p i can succesfully log in. what am i doing wrong?
[21:41] <Eftarjin> hi. how do i restart X from the command line in karmic ? /etc/init.d/gdm restart has been replaced and service gdm restart doesn’t help…
[21:41] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: back to 9.04 ?
[21:42] <Montebest> how?
[21:42] <Montebest> i dont understand
[21:42] <pfred1> Eftarjin startx ?
[21:42] <sebsebseb> !tab |  Montebest
[21:42] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: hehe
[21:42] <Eftarjin> pfred1: no, i want to kill a stuck X session
[21:42] <LasBuntu> how can I more files in nautilus as root?
[21:42] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: you have better experience with 9.04 ?
[21:42] <LasBuntu> ermove files
[21:42] <pfred1> Eftarjin ctrl+alt+ backspace kills X sessions in X
[21:42] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: yes
[21:42] <iceroot> !gksudo | LasBuntu
[21:43] <userone> iceroot: yeah...he didnt realise that 75% (or more?) of servers in the world run apache, which is open source, and not windows base
[21:43] <koko_> Any place one can read up on the guest session
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: mhh, me too
[21:43] <Montebest> ok
[21:43] <LasBuntu> iceroot: thanks
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: well I  had like one little problem with 9.10, but other then that it worked fine
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I thought I was crazy
[21:43] <Eftarjin> pfred1: that was disabled in karmic…
[21:43] <coldboot> I've got Ubuntu 9.10 installed, and I'm using Nvidia TwinView. How do I drag a newly created "panel" to the other screen?
[21:43] <pfred1> Eftarjin eeewww
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: ,but I left it for another distro, since I didn't like the new features of 9.10
[21:43] <iceroot> userone: of course :)
[21:43] <m0ar> I need help installing Quod Libet
[21:43] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and didn't want to put 9.04 back on
[21:43] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: mhh I like 9.10 actually, but the upgrades every time
[21:43] <Montebest> MatBoy: on grub you can see that there are four Ubuntus
[21:44] <erUSUL> brova: avoiding the use of cut (i guess you want to sum the numbers in the 4 column). « awk '{ sum += $4 } END {print sum}' file »
[21:44] <xover> its time for vmware server to come into play
[21:44] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: what about the upgrades?
[21:44] <jigal> QUESTION: i try to login to mysql with phpmyadmin but i can't get in. But when i login command line wit mysql -uroot -p i can succesfully log in. what am i doing wrong?
[21:45] <m0ar> When I try to install Quod Libet it nags on me for some dependencies, how to install them?
[21:45] <MatBoy> Montebest: yes
[21:45] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I have had such thing before
[21:45] <mMezquitale> jigal, are you at least using all your appz in ubuntu?  LoL  Either way that doesnt sound like an issue with ubuntu, I suggest you go to a programming language, maybe #perl
[21:45] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: something about upgrades, your not being clear
[21:45] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: can you verify if the FX5200 is not supported anymore in the latest nvidia drivers for linux ?
[21:46] <pfred1> m0ar synaptic solves my deps for me
[21:46] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: no
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: with upgrade, I needed to reinstall in the past because of something like this
[21:46] <m0ar> pfred1: Just trying to install from there=?
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: ok thanks
[21:46] <pfred1> m0ar its all I use
[21:46] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and Nivida  drivers usaully just work on Ubuntu :)
[21:46] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: yes, but I thought the 5xxx serie was not supported anymore
[21:46] <pfred1> sebsebseb mine worked better after I ran nvidia-xconfig
[21:46] <MatBoy> maybe I bought 2x 9800gtx for nothing :P
[21:47] <brova> erUSUL: i figured it out before you told me :D this is what i had though
[21:47] <brova> erUSUL: awk '{ SUM += $1} END { print SUM }' pricesList
[21:47] <sebsebseb> pfred1: uhmm better of messaging MatBoy with stuff like that,  it's not me with the problem :)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> off bove not of
[21:47] <sebsebseb> above
[21:47] <samba_> !paste | samba_
[21:47] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  samba_
[21:48] <sebsebseb> samba_: maybe wrong factoid for that, but you can pm the bot, for factoids
[21:48] <pfred1> MatBoy which driver you running the binary or nv ?
[21:48] <MatBoy> pfred1: binary
[21:48] <MatBoy> pfred1: 185
[21:48] <m0ar> Gah, I just got a massive error from Update Manager, repo fetching-problems or something
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: seems supported by the 173 driver in karmic
[21:49] <pfred1> m0ar too many Black Monday Internet shoppers online!
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: the 5200
[21:50] <ED6EY> Hey guys, i'm having trouble getting the program macchanger to work....i'm entering macchanger -r <interface> and it doesn't return an error. However when i check my MacID it doesn't appear any different. Anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ED6EY: you can set mac addresses in /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:51] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: yap, after that not anymore I thought
[21:51] <ED6EY> thanks i'll give that a try
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ED6EY: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[21:52] <MatBoy> but it seems that I need a reinstall
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: nvidia support a LOT of their legacy cards, ati seem to drop them like they are diseased which i think is ridiculous
[21:52] <pfred1> MatBoy bummer what happened?
[21:52] <boss_mc> I recently upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and I'm having problems with mpd, I've got it set to use the pulse output, mpd is in the audio group.  Music plays fine in MPD but it does not appear as a program under the sound preferences page and no other app can play sound.  Any ideas?
[21:53] <paul68> iceroot: is done sorry for the delay in the replay my little kid needed help
[21:53] <emilio> como puedo descargar los plugins de linux?? se instalan pero no sirven!!
[21:53] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: not  as such, but many people got issues after upgrading from Jaunty
[21:53] <sebsebseb> !es |  erUSUL
[21:53] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: wrong one :)
[21:53] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: a clean karmic install on my eee works perfectly, but upgrading should work too :-)
[21:54] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: useually upgrades go well
[21:54] <lwhacker> Dell Inspiron 1501; SATA ATI SB600 controller; error: "soft reset failure"; kernel 2.6.31-15; kernel has workaround patch, but problem persists; any ideas what else can be done?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: ,but his hasn't been the case for many when it came to 9.04 to 9.10
[21:54] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: mhh, but Nvidia did the same now :)
[21:54] <MatBoy> pfred1: it doesn't want to run :)
[21:54] <sebsebseb> this not his above
[21:55] <seidos> lwhacker: only thing i can think of is using an older kernel to see if you get the same problem
[21:55] <pfred1> MatBoy can't even recover off a CD?
[21:55] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: yeah, everything else went pretty well, the other issue I had (not updating grub to use new kernel) was basically my fault...
[21:55] <MatBoy> pfred1: maybe, first need to backup ;)
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: well  your not meant to get the new  Grub on upgrade
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: also if you try and install it yourself afterwoulds you might get issues
[21:55] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: plus  no Ext4 on upgrade for those 9.04 Ext3 installs
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: http://ns2.canonical.com/en/karmic/misc/nvidia-glx-96  search the page for 5200
[21:56] <aperson> I cannot have any tmpfs entries in my fstab, when I do, my system won't boot and says that it can't mount the root filesystem.  here's my fstab, with the tmpfs lines commented out http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331970/  can anyone help?
[21:56] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: nah, not that, I told it to use my old grub config (stupidly) so it didn't add the new kernel to the menu.lst, fixed that now (and installed GRUB2 no probs)
[21:56] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: already had ext4 from my jaunty install
[21:56] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: ok and Grub 2 does not hae menu.lst
[21:56] <Aijse> Any know of a web based torrent client that has the ability to choose a folder for each download?
[21:56] <Aijse> transmission lacks this very basic option to choose directory per file
[21:56] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: I wanted to know if it's stil, supported on the 185 driver, I thought it didn't... 96 was last ?
[21:56] <MatBoy> or that 176
[21:56] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: have not hae
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: its not in the 185
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: seems to be in the 173
[21:58] <mka> aperson: why do you want to mount tmpfs?
[21:58] <Newbien00b> :p
[21:58] <aperson> mka: because I want to keep my temp dirs in ram
[21:58] <Newbien00b> shut up
[21:58] <zane> hi i am using ubuntu 9.10 64bit and for some reason banshee only sees my ipod every now and then.. i have to restart my computer and hope that it banshee will see my ipod. any ideas?
[21:59] <aperson> mka, but why isn't the matter, it's why is this not working
[22:00] <aperson> I don't see anything wrong with those four entries
[22:00] <mka> aperson: it could be that you mount tmpfs to /var/log  for example and then later on mount /var
[22:00] <mka> aperson: are you sure about your sequence of mounting?
[22:00] <boss_mc> Anyone else?  I recently upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and I'm having problems with mpd, I've got it set to use the pulse output, mpd is in the audio group.  Music plays fine in MPD but it does not appear as a program under the sound preferences page and no other app can play sound.  Any ideas?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: could try a clean install, your issue may go away then
[22:00] <aperson> mka: someone needs to change the ubuntu wiki then, that's how they have it ^-*
[22:01] <mka> aperson: URL please
[22:01] <aperson> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331970/
[22:01] <aperson> ohh
[22:01] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: hmmm, quite a lot of hassle (I've customized my setup over 6 months), and I have no CD drive or USB pen....
[22:01] <aperson> you mean the wiki
[22:01] <aperson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Using#Reducing%20Drive%20Writes
[22:01] <puff> Does empathy handle AIM??
[22:01] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: oh ok
[22:02] <filezilla_user> hi um
[22:02] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: well good luck getting your issue fixied or well trying to get it fixed
[22:02] <filezilla_user> can I have some help??
[22:02] <N3OInc> empathy should
[22:02] <A1Robot> (  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \
[22:02] <A1Robot> | (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/
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[22:02] <A1Robot> |  __)   |  __)   | |      |  __)   (_____  )
[22:02] <FloodBot4> A1Robot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <sebsebseb> !ask |  filezilla_user
[22:02] <N3OInc> Pidgin
[22:03] <MatBoy> ActionParsnip: yes, and I want to be updated :) so I ditch the card ;)
[22:03] <aperson> mka, I'm going to just throw /tmp into ram and see if that works
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: your call dude
[22:03] <aperson> mka, if it does, I just may leave it at that
[22:03] <filezilla_user> I need a 200mb .rar file hosted on a website to uploaded to my remote machine without me sitting there uploading it thru filezilla or other ftp client
[22:03] <A1Robot> (  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \(  ____ \
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> MatBoy: my onboard 6150 works reat on the 19 0driver
[22:03] <A1Robot> | (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/| (    \/
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[22:03] <A1Robot> | )      | (____/\| (____/\| (____/\/\____) |
[22:03] <FloodBot4> A1Robot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> *190
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !ops | A1Robot
[22:04] <Montebest> wtf
[22:04] <LLStarks> can someone help me out.
[22:04] <LLStarks> E: Build-Depends dependency for gst-plugins-base0.10 cannot be satisfied because the package gir-repository-dev cannot be found
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> any lag experts around?
[22:05] <mka> aperson: try replacing that 2 by 0 in that field that mounts /var
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !language |  Montebest
[22:05] <Montebest> srry
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> wtf is considered non family friendly?
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> o.O?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> PyroPhelia: yep
[22:06] <dAlfa89_> PyroPhelia, think of what it stands for, I'd say that's family unfriendly
[22:06] <tsimpson> think about what the acronym means, so no, it's not
[22:06] <aperson> mka, well, I'm here, which means having /tmp alone in ram works
[22:06] <LLStarks> E: Build-Depends dependency for gst-plugins-base0.10 cannot be satisfied because the package gir-repository-dev cannot be found
[22:06] <LLStarks> what's going on here?
[22:06] <pfred1> dAlfa89_ if you know then who cares?
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> could be what the fudge? :P
[22:06] <aperson> mka, but I do swear I've had that set up before and working
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> it's ambigious for a reason
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> such as RTFM
[22:06] <PyroPhelia> read the fine manual :)
[22:06] <mka> aperson: the prime suspect is the sequence of mounting
[22:07] <mka> aperson: if you master that then fine,
[22:07] <tsimpson> PyroPhelia: there are alternatives to saying that, so just don't use it
[22:07] <aperson> mka, ah, well, that wiki page needs to be worked on anyways
[22:07] <mka> aperson: if for example, your /var was not on a separate filesystem this would work
[22:07] <mka> aperson: not really
[22:08] <aperson> mka: that page has a bunch of info that needs updating :)
[22:08] <pfred1> leave #ubuntu
[22:08] <aperson> in any case, thanks mka
[22:09] <mka> aperson: no prob
[22:10] <addisonj> hey, using the live CD, is it possible to boot just to a live console?
[22:11] <aperson> mka, looking back, I don't know why I was wanting to mount /var in tmpfs anyways, I have it on a separate filesystem anyways.  I think I just saw all that on the page and though it'd be a good idea.  oh well :)
[22:11] <mementomori> hi
[22:11] <mka> mementomori: hi
[22:11] <mementomori> how can I access grub2 menu at startup?
[22:12] <mementomori> !grub
[22:12] <mementomori> !grub2
[22:12] <Cr`eme> Hello :)
[22:12] <kevin__> hello
[22:12] <Flare183> !hi | kevin__
[22:13] <VCoolio> mementomori: keep shift pressed at boot
[22:13] <kevin__> cool, thanks
[22:13] <wolfslack> how do i add an application to launch in every gnome session at startup. (no gui please)
[22:14] <mementomori> VCoolio, just after the bios loading?
[22:14] <VCoolio> mementomori: exactly
[22:14] <mementomori> I'm trying
[22:15]  * noisecontrol is watching t3h matr1x in high def
[22:15] <izua> hello. i want to set up a virtual network card. i'm developing a .ko for ethercat (industrial protocol over ethernet) but i haven't found a lot of information about setting up a card
[22:15] <mementomori> VCoolio, thank you. it works
[22:15] <wolfslack> If a cow could fly, could one call it a "cow-fly'er"?
[22:15] <izua> to develop this right i'd need two boxes, one of them with to ethernet cards
[22:16] <izua> but that's too much of a bother, so i'm just going to simulate the second box. is this possible?
[22:16] <noisecontrol> hey cool 88% done with my DVD burning on pc2
[22:16] <sebsebseb> !ot |  noisecontrol
[22:17] <Rioting_Pacifist> is it work using rsync over a lan (because bandwidth isn't really an issue?)?
[22:18] <flagpolesitta> I accidentally opened a mp4 file with real player and now I have to right click it and choose movieplayer if I want to open it that way (it automatically opened it that way before). If I try to open an mp4 from the Firefox Downloads list, it just tries to open it in realplayer as well. I selected movieplayer as the default in Preferred Applications. Realplayer doesnt seem to work for watching mp4s in any case. Can anyone help?
[22:18] <mattgyver> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server all works fine but it fails when trying to install grub2, any ideas?
[22:18] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: if your doing a proper server,  the LTS is recommended
[22:19] <sebsebseb> !server |  mattgyver
[22:19] <VCoolio> flagpolesitta: set mplayer in the 'open with' tab in the properties window of a mp4 file
[22:19] <danub> hey all, how do i stop knetwork managggggggggggggggger from using the auto eth config instead of my home config? when it starts up it uses auto eth which isn't configured correctly. I want to make it use home as the default connection and start with the system
[22:20] <flagpolesitta> VCoolio: thanks that worked
[22:20] <nemo> Hey, my mom, who is quite a ways away, shut down here computer in the middle of an upgrade to 9.10.  She has since run apt-get update/upgrade and is mostly back to normal
[22:21] <nemo> But, she is missing little ubuntu touches. Such as the ubuntu software store or ubuntu one
[22:21] <VCoolio> flagpolesitta: that's for everything the way to set a default app in gnome
[22:21] <nemo> is there some way to rerun the install to pick this stuff up?
[22:21] <nemo> s/here computer/her computer/
[22:21] <boss_mc> nemo, has she tried installing ubuntu-desktop (the meta package that installs the basic programs)?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> nemo:  if it's pretty much 9.10,  those can probably just be installed from the repo
[22:21] <mementomori> after a kernel update the X server doesn't start correctly because of the nvidia driver. How can I reconfigure it?
[22:22] <nemo> sebsebseb: yeah. I just wasn't sure what was missing
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> nemo: sudo apt-get install software-centre-gtl ubuntuone-client-gtk
[22:23] <nemo> I'll install the packages ActionParsnip suggested - but is there anything else the installer might have done ?
[22:23] <AmokPaule> If i create partions under windows will ubuntu on installation see these and can i use them?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> nemo: not much difference between 9.04 and 9.10
[22:24] <mementomori> AmokPaule, yes
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: yes
[22:24] <nemo> heh
[22:24] <AmokPaule> sweet thanks
[22:24] <mementomori> ;)
[22:24] <coz_> AmokPaule,  it surely should be seen
[22:24] <sebsebseb> nemo: except for what you mentioned, some boot up and log in changes,  and themes
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: if you want them to automount you might have to change some settings - unless things have changed recently
[22:24] <nemo> AmokPaule: used to be automounting had to be explicitly configured, in 9.04
[22:24] <mattgyver> sebsebseb, this is really just a home server not really much more so im okay with not using the LTS version, i didnt have a boot flag set on either of the partition im retrying to see if that was why, thanks tho
[22:24] <sebsebseb> nemo: and Ext4 and Grub 2  for clean installs by default
[22:24] <AmokPaule> i just want to install ubuntu in one of those partions
[22:24] <nemo> sebsebseb: hm. well. ext4 I can fix
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: well Ext4 isn't really needed in 9.10
[22:25] <nemo> sebsebseb: although I'm too nervous to modify to grub2 from here (3,000km away)
[22:25] <nemo> yeah. best to wait I guess
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: I did a test in fact, 9.10 with Ext3 and Ext4
[22:25] <sebsebseb> nemo: and  the old Grub is fine for now
[22:26] <sebsebseb> nemo: If you clean install 10.04 though,  then you get them sure,  and if that install isnt' a proper 9.10 for whatever reason/s  could just use that for now and clean install 10.04?
[22:27] <Hans_Henrik> i've long had a problem with "getting better WLAN range on WinXP than Ubuntu", and.. for some reason, i get better WLAN range after sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng;airmon-ng start wlan0;  - can any1 explain? :p
[22:27] <sebsebseb> nemo: end of April 2010,  and the next Long Term Support release, if you didn't already know
[22:27] <argued> how do I change or force the cursor theme using gconf?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> nemo: 10.04 not 2010 above
[22:27] <HarmK1> Hey, i just tried to upgrade my PC and now it wont start
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: as in from 9.04 to 9.10?
[22:28] <HarmK1> sebsebseb: no as in hardware
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: oh
[22:28] <Glowball> Hmm, wasn't g++ pre-installed on Jaunty?
[22:28] <sebsebseb> HarmK1: well ##hardware then
[22:29] <dusty1> hi
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Glowball: not sure, but  sounds like one of the packages that would probably be pre installed
[22:30] <seidos> is it hardware problem or a software problem?
[22:30] <PhantomLink> I need the link for the 9.04 LTS LiveCD iso please.
[22:30] <dusty1> i have recently installed ubuntu and just today at random my firefox has stopped working
[22:30] <sebsebseb> dusty1: hi
[22:30] <sebsebseb> dusty1: please be more specific, what did you mean exactly by that?
[22:30] <Glowball> sebsebseb: I thought it was. But it looks like it isn't on Karmic...
[22:30] <ortsvorsteher> PhantomLink, there is no 9.04 lts. it will be new at 10.4
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Glowball: oh ok
[22:31] <PhantomLink> Oh okay
[22:31] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i go to launch the application and it does not launch thus i try to launch from terminal and it gives me a
[22:31] <dusty1> dustin@dustin-desktop:~$ firefox
[22:31] <dusty1> Segmentation fault
[22:31] <dusty1> dustin@dustin-desktop:~$
[22:31] <FloodBot4> dusty1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <Glowball> sebsebseb: Sound kinda weird to me to remove that one :/
[22:31] <PhantomLink> Hey, the USB diskl
[22:31] <sebsebseb> dusty1: hmm
[22:31] <PhantomLink> can that be used as a liveCD type thing?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> dusty1: that error means something, I have seen  people say it before in here or whatever it was
[22:31] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i tried to uninstall it and reinstall and nothing has helped
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: Firefox can go a bit bad on Ubuntu, useualy, because of Flash though
[22:32] <PhantomLink> I am getting a new laptop, and lost my ubuntu livecd and don't feel like redownloading it.
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: you can  try removing .mozilla from home it's a hidden folder, with your Firefox user settings
[22:32] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yes in installed flash and then went to restart the browser, that is when it started to screw up
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dusty1: there are also many good alternative browsers for Desktop Linux :)
[22:32] <coz_> PhantomLink,  ah oh then no ubuntu for you :)
[22:32] <PhantomLink> coz_, D:
[22:32] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?
[22:32] <PhantomLink> I like ubuntu!
[22:33] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i'm using opera right now, as for the hidden folder how do i view it?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: what has happended for me before, is that Flash messed up in Ubuntu, but was fine in other browsers in Ubuntu
[22:33] <PhantomLink> I'll find my CD then.
[22:33] <benjamin_> dustyl: try cntrl+h
[22:33] <coz_> PhantomLink,  well the only way I know of doing this is to either order a cd or download it
[22:33] <PhantomLink> Thank you for your helo.
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Dutchy: open home up graphicalley yeah
[22:33] <PhantomLink> help*
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Dutchy: wrong one
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: above
[22:33] <xover> hi all
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dusty1: then view > show hidden  files and folders
[22:33] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?
[22:33] <xover> i have added samba to firestart exclusions and yet i still cant access the system unless i turn off firestarter
[22:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: or use the keyboard shortcut which is ctrl  + h  I think
[22:34] <benjamin_> sebsebseb: that's the right shortcut :)
[22:34] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yep that did it ill delete the folder to see waht happens
[22:34] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?!
[22:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: re name .mozilla move it, delete it,  whatever you want to do with it really,  just don't have it in  the main home folder
[22:34] <sebsebseb> benjamin_: ok ty
[22:34] <yeason> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 x64 and while watching movies I'm getting what I think can be described as horizontal clipping... basically there is a horizontal line or break across the screen, it gets worse in action. Any suggestions for fixing this?
[22:34] <xover> this is my samba rule 192.168.1.0/24
[22:35] <piperfan> hello everyone, I'm trying to workaroud SiS graphics bug by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to exist in 9.10, any ideas?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: SIS hmm
[22:35] <benjamin_> sebsebseb: np, can you help solve my problem? :)
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: What is the problem your getting?
[22:35] <benjamin_> How do i change my username for MSN in the Empathy IM?!
[22:35] <duffydack> SIS should be banned from making anything
[22:35] <dusty1> sebsebseb" I just tried to delete the folder, it deleted and then i went to load firefox and got the same error :(
[22:35] <samuli--> piperfan, you can make one and the xserver will read it
[22:35] <piperfan> tried dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it doesn't do anything
[22:35] <sebsebseb> piperfan: as far as I know there isn't really any  Desktop Linux support from SIS
[22:35] <duffydack> Ive never had so much trouble installing ubuntu and getting it to work than with an sis chipset.
[22:36] <samuli--> piperfan, Xorg-configure is similar now
[22:36] <sebsebseb> piperfan: and it would be  rather difficult for the  Desktop Linux developers to reverse enginer something
[22:36] <sebsebseb> piperfan: for SIS
[22:36] <dusty1> sebsebseb: well i guess ill be stuck using opera?
[22:36] <xkpe> hello
[22:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: not quite
[22:36] <ctmjr> yeason: are you using an ati graphics card?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: as I said quite a lot of other good browsers as well
[22:36] <xover> why doesnt firestarter work?
[22:36] <yeason> nope, nvidia, have the glx-185 drivers installed
[22:37] <dusty1> sebsebseb: what one would you recommend?
[22:37] <xover> fcking computers
[22:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: Give Epiphany and Galeon a try.  Konqueror even if you don't mind putting on KDE stuff,  well you might have already done that.
[22:37] <piperfan> is there a way to create the xorg.conf file?
[22:37] <yeason> ctmjr: nope, nvidia, have the glx-185 drivers installed
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  dusty1
[22:37] <xkpe> i installed imagemagick (apt-get install imagemagick) but the command convert its not available, has anyone used this on ubuntu? what can i be doing wrong?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser if you do  sudo apt-get install epiphany it will put on a game
[22:37] <kbp> I need help. When i type "http://localhost/" it does not goes to localhost and show error page, how to fix it?
[22:37] <Samuli^> piperfan, you can make one yourself or use "Xorg-configure" which will make one for you
[22:38] <g__> hi, has anyone experience of compressing video for iphones on linux?
[22:38] <dusty1> downloading epiphany browser right now :)
[22:38] <Samuli^> piperfan, xorg.conf isn't needed anymore because the autodetection is so good, but the xserver still reads the xorg.conf if you have one
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: you could also try Firefox with a Flash alternative
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: there's  Gnash and Swfdec
[22:38] <sebsebseb> dusty1: as far as I know can only have one installed at a time though
[22:38] <ctmjr> yeason: you can turn off visual effects like compiz and see if it goes away if it does you can add somethings to xorg to fix it
[22:39] <dusty1> sebsebseb: i have been quite impressed with how customizable gnome is, i have made it to look and feel like OS X,  as for the flash thing i have tired that once already
[22:39] <N3OInc> Peace ya'll, hit me up if you need me.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> dusty1: for both of those programs?
[22:39] <yeason> ctmjr: I don't think I'm using any visual effects... its a default ubuntu install, brand new install actually
[22:39] <argued> is there a way to change the cursor theme / pointer in gnome using gconf and have compiz activated? Anyone with same issue?
[22:39] <piperfan> if I put xorg-configure I get command not found
[22:40] <sebsebseb> dusty1: oh you have themed it like OS X,  seems quite a lot of Ubuntu users want to do at, at least at some stage.   by the way avant window manager is a popular dock, but Cairo  Dock is meant to be the best one
[22:40] <nowimproved> Alsamixers volume settings restart after every reboot
[22:40] <Samuli^> piperfan, it's Xorg-configure
[22:40] <nowimproved> please help
[22:40] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: Which version of Ubuntu?
[22:40] <dusty1> sebsebseb: nah im not using a dock i have customized my button panel, because AVANT was screwing up
[22:40] <nowimproved> sebi`, latest
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: ok so 9.10,  is this with a clean install or upgrade?
[22:41] <nowimproved> sebsebseb, clean, this has happened to me since I used gentoo
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: oh
[22:41] <nowimproved> I always forget how to fix it
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: so not some Ubuntu pulseaudio issue it seems
[22:41] <nowimproved> sebsebseb, unlikely
[22:42] <piperfan> Xorg-configure gives me same - command not found
[22:42] <Samuli^> piperfan, sorry, it's Xorg -configure
[22:42] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: sound isn't my area,  I thought maybe something had gone wrong for you after an upgrade from 9.04
[22:42] <Samuli^> :)
[22:42] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: if its' a general issue you can also ask help for it in ##linux
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !sound |  nowimproved
[22:42] <ctmjr> yeason: look in the main menu under  preferences > appearance and the effects tab and choose none
[22:43] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: well even if it wasn't you could
[22:43] <dusty1> i have one last dumb question, is there anyway that i could make folders that contain shortcuts to everything that is in the application, places, and system menus?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> dusty1: try and right click on icons in the menu :)
[22:43] <dusty1> ok
[22:44] <piperfan> for Xorg -configure I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/331993/
[22:44] <yeason> ctmjr: done... we've got a movie on so I'll let you know soon if that didn't do it, thnx for the help so far =D
[22:44] <sebsebseb> dusty1: I am not on Gnome right now, in fact I am not even on Ubuntu right now,  but  I think you will get options for adding short cuts to the desktop and the panel
[22:44] <ctmjr> yeason: ok
[22:44] <dusty1> ok thanks cuse i have a panel add on tha tmakes a mac style bar at the top and it looks funny with the other
[22:45] <dusty1> but ig otta go
[22:45] <Samuli^> piperfan, yesh.. you can't configure X if it's running.
[22:45] <piperfan> ah fair enough
[22:45] <Samuli^> you need to do that in cli
[22:45]  * NaxoneZ nas
[22:46] <piperfan> I'll give it a go, thanks for all your help Samuli^ and sebsebseb
[22:46] <Samuli^> also.. it doesn't write the file directly to X11/xorg.conf... it makes a file to /root/xorg.new.conf you need to copy (and edit, if you wish) to /X11/
[22:46] <nemo> sebsebseb: yeah. I was just wondering if there was a way to force a rerun of the installer now that 9.10 is already in place
[22:46] <Samuli^> and name it xorg.conf obv.
[22:47] <nemo> sebsebseb: since I'm sure update-manager -d would not prompt
[22:47] <nemo> sebsebseb: I guess could use a CD if it comes to that.
[22:47] <piperfan> thanks! bye
[22:47] <Samuli^> good luck :)
[22:47] <porkpie> anyone here know why the Starting Samba daemons  is really slow to start
[22:48] <dragon> porkpie: how are you starting it?
[22:48] <sara1> hi all i need video converter plz
[22:48] <xkpe> i installed imagemagick (apt-get install imagemagick) but the command convert its not available, has anyone used this on ubuntu? what can i be doing wrong?
[22:49] <ctmjr> !info mencoder | sara1
[22:49] <sebsebseb> nemo: I think there may be some magic (well not magic, since it doesn't exist? Or does it? ) that you can do on the Live CD, to get it working how you want it
[22:50] <nemo> sebsebseb: guess I'll just wait until I have her laptop in my hands again.
[22:50] <sara1> ctmjr ubottu thnx
[22:50] <Panic661> Hi, I've got a few issues. First, when in terminal and it tells me its going to take a certain amount of space, and if I want to continue (y/n) And I type in "y" it aborts.
[22:50] <nowimproved> seb, actually this is my error, http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1876316.html
[22:51] <porkpie> dragon:'/etc/init.d/samba start"
[22:51] <sebsebseb> nemo: ok good luck,   plus if you got it your hands you can do a clean install if you really want
[22:51] <porkpie> dragon: I am showing 2 pids though ... not sure if this is correct
[22:52] <Panic661> My second issue involves my wireless card (BCM 4311) and I've gone through trying to install the ndiswrapper..
[22:52] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: crazy
[22:52] <chris12349> #php
[22:52] <porkpie> dragon:it starts but takes 15mins to start
[22:53] <ctmjr> sara1: your welcome it is a command line app if you want a gui then avidemux is nice
[22:53] <Panic661> ShawnRisk: I was thinking the same thing. (Minus the wireless card, apparently thats no uncommon.) But, I'm extremely new to linux in general.
[22:53] <yeason> ctmjr: thanks for the suggestion, it appears to be working normally
[22:53] <sebsebseb> nemo: in your hands, above (didn't need to correct this, but felt like it)
[22:54] <Justcop> am using ubuntu NBR on an ases eeepc, had been working great but suddenly is only booting to CLI, if i type startx it loads up fine but the mouse doesn't work, help me?
[22:55] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: I am going through the wireless problem right now
[22:55] <ctmjr> yeason: your welcome if you do not need the effects you can just leave it like it is
[22:56] <Panic661> ShawnRisk: are you on a BCM card?
[22:57] <nikolaj> hey
[22:57] <nikolaj> does anyone know where the temporary internet files are in ubuntu?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: hi
[22:57] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: there aren't any :)  well there are kind of
[22:58] <nikolaj> i just watched a divx film and wanted to locate the file for that film
[22:58] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: oh there's /tmp
[22:58] <LjL> nikolaj: it may or may not be in some directory inside your home depending on the browser or program you used.
[22:58] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: also your Firefox profile with your user settings is in home in the hidden .mozilla folder
[22:58] <ShawnRisk> Panic661: yes
[22:58] <nikolaj> not in the .mozilla folder
[22:58] <nikolaj> although there are some temp files there
[22:58] <ShawnRisk> on my other laptop
[22:59] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: yes it won't be in there
[22:59] <nikolaj> am in /tmp at the moment
[22:59] <nikolaj> looking more like it, can't believe i didn't look earlier
[23:00] <nikolaj> not in there though
[23:00] <ctmjr> nikolaj: they do not store the file in a tmp folder anymore or on your computer for that matter to easy to just copy the file and have a copy of the movie you can thank hulu and apple for that
[23:00] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: look at Firefox history and go on it again?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: it was on a web page?
[23:00] <nikolaj> i can find the temporary vid files for some other videos in that folder
[23:01] <nikolaj> so it obviously is still downloaded as a temporary form
[23:01] <nikolaj> just not to there
[23:01] <nikolaj> do you want the link?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: thank them for that why what?
[23:01] <blackbriar> can someone suggest which java package i should install?
[23:01] <ymee> hi guys. can some tell me how to command line access a windows share? I am connected to the windows share from the "places" menu. How do I access the contents via the command line?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !info sun-java6-jre
[23:01] <nikolaj> sebsebseb: do you want the link?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> blackbriar: that one ^
[23:01] <blackbriar> thanks
[23:02] <sebsebseb> blackbriar: np
[23:02] <halouf> hello
[23:02] <SeanTater> I'm using the USB Startup Disk Creator (cool app BTW), but it's copying at only 60KB/s. This can't be right, can it?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: that would depend on what kind of video it is, etc etc
[23:02] <ymee> anyone?
[23:03] <nikolaj> ok it's nothing bad if that's what you mean
[23:03] <halouf> bluetooth isn't working on my laptop (hp 6830s) any way to fix this?
[23:03] <ymee> where does ubuntu mount (if it does) the directories when I connect to a windows share via the Places menu?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: and if it's something pirated your not meant to link to it in here etc
[23:04] <nikolaj> alright well it still remains that i need to try and locate this file
[23:04] <SeanTater> ymee: I guess you must have already checked, but I would try in /media. If not, run "mount" in a terminal and it should give you a list, one of which should be your share
[23:04] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: Flash videos can be saved and maybe your type as well,  I think that's what ctmjr  was trying to point out
[23:05] <sebsebseb> nikolaj: if it's online, why do you need it from your computer?
[23:05] <Justcop> am using ubuntu NBR on an ases eeepc, had been working great but suddenly is only booting to CLI, if i type startx it loads up fine but the mouse doesn't work, help me?
[23:05] <seidos> i think flash videos are stored in /temp
[23:05] <seidos> er /tmp
[23:05] <nikolaj> because i need to show some of this in a lecture
[23:05] <Snausages> Justcop: I've had my trackpad wig out before...  I plugged in a regular mouse, and it worked, and when I unplugged it the trackpad worked again.
[23:06] <nikolaj> it's an .avi
[23:06] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: use to be you watch a tv show on the internet it stored a copy in a tmp file to speed up buffering then you just copied the file to another dir and renamed it you then had a copy of the show but hulu and apple do not store acopy on your computer and most every other site followed
[23:06] <lalo> Hi, Is there any way to change ubuntu 9.10 karmic boot splash animation?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: oh right well copyright etc
[23:06] <madcheeze> hey all quick question, in 9.10 64 bit, how do i know what theme i have installed? is it gdm1 or gdm2? i dont think i am using compiz. its a straight up fresh install of 9.10
[23:07] <sebsebseb> lalo: don't think so
[23:07] <sebsebseb> lalo: it can be removed though
[23:07] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: exactly
[23:08] <mikebeecham> guys...any idea why I cant get build-dep command to work?
[23:08] <mikebeecham> are there 'normal' reasons for this?
[23:08] <nikolaj> so would anyone know the location that the file is played from?
[23:08] <nikolaj> within the file system
[23:08] <halouf> bluetooth isn't working on my laptop (hp 6830s) any way to fix this?
[23:08] <Confuzius> madcheeze, gdm2
[23:08] <madcheeze> Confuzius, thanks!
[23:08] <madcheeze> has anyone had any luck with cairo dock in 9.10?
[23:08] <Fizix> halouf, have you tried searching for proprietary drivers?
[23:09] <halouf> no, I've read that it should work out of the box but it's not the case
[23:10] <nikolaj> anyone :D
[23:10] <LjL> !usplash | lalo
[23:10] <Fizix> halouf, go to: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers | It will scan your box for hardware that would require proprietary, non-open source drivers.
[23:10] <genii> LjL: grub2 doesn't play nice with usplash, etc
[23:10] <Fizix> then you can download, install and activate those drivers right from there
[23:10] <sebsebseb> LjL: ah yes usplash
[23:10] <LjL> mikebeecham: it doesn't work, like what?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> genii: no?
[23:11] <LjL> genii: uh, Karmic doesn't use usplash?
[23:11] <nikolaj> i am replaying the video that i want to watch offline, and it's not even having to buffer this time so it is somewhere on my hard drive but i have no idea where?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: Karmic uses Xsplash for it's boot up (I am not genii, but I answered anyway)
[23:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: and uspalsh can be used instead or whatever
[23:12] <halouf> Fizix, the only hardware detected is my ati card
[23:12] <LjL> sebsebseb: i have a kubuntu karmic, the splash screen doesn't looked like it was running inside X11 if that's what xsplash is...
[23:12] <sebsebseb> genii: Grub 2 does not like usplash?
[23:12] <mikebeecham> LjL - I am trying to build the banshee from git, and am trying to use the Build-dep command, but I am being told that it cannot find the source package...I am assuming because build-dep is not working for some reason?
[23:12] <Fizix> halouf, do you have any hotkey on your keyboard to vary off/on the bluetooth antennae?
[23:13] <magmarules> Guys anyone knows how i can launch the compiz-config manager through command line? its not opening i would like to know what the error is
[23:13] <sebsebseb> LjL: Xplash is for example the  white Ubuntu logo in the centre of the screen on boot up
[23:13] <pyrak> my system is using just under 2gb memory with only ffx, evince, pidgin, and xchat open
[23:13] <genii> sebsebseb: I'm trying now to find where I found this originally.... but to my knowledge, they don't work well together
[23:13] <Fizix> magentar, compiz-config-manager doesn't work?
[23:13] <maco> magmarules: ccsm
[23:13] <halouf> Fizix, yeah but it's turned on
[23:13] <LjL> sebsebseb: well, before that i get usplash. i guess that might be a kubuntu thing though.
[23:13] <pyrak> from a little poking with htop and stuff, it sort of looks like every process is using a few times more mem than it ought to be
[23:13] <synapsys> Compiz-config-settings-manager: ccsm
[23:14] <Fizix> halouf, does the bluetooth logo appear at the top right with other processes?
[23:14] <pyrak> does this sound familiar at all?
[23:14] <LjL> mikebeecham: do you have src repositories enabled in sources.list?
[23:14] <madcheeze> pyrak, fresh install?
[23:14] <Flare183> pyrak: Yeah, it does.
[23:14] <pyrak> madcheeze, yeah, i guess that's my solution... i'm just avoiding it
[23:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: could be, and  when I put  KDM into 9.10, I didn't get the second thing,  the like sand theme with Ubuntu  text, after the thing in the centre
[23:14] <pyrak> oh, if you were asking if this _is_ a fresh install, it's not.  recently upgraded to karmic
[23:15] <pyrak> but haven't reformatted ~1 year
[23:15] <madcheeze> pyrak, no, im asking, is it a fresh install? if so, double check the md5 and make sure your install media is good. after that, kill processes until you isolate the problem one...
[23:15] <halouf> Fizix, the appelet is there but "send files to device" and "browse files on device" are both grayed out
[23:15] <Subby> hi, how to delete recursively all .svn-folders ?
[23:15] <magmarules> unn maco ty =( seems to be locale problems. I accidentally installed the system with portuguese locale and now even though i changed it to English it still tries to use PT.
[23:15] <madcheeze> pyrak, kill each service or app until you get your memory back
[23:15] <Subby> from a given folder
[23:16] <pyrak> madcheeze, oh dear.  okay.  do i risk permanent damage if i kill something essential?
[23:16] <Flare183> pyrak: Or do what I've been doing, add more swap if you don't have any.
[23:16] <Fizix> halouf, it could be the device you're interfacing with blocking it and not Ubuntu. With my previous phone, I could browse the entire drive, with my new phone, I have to setup a specific folder to accept bluetooth sent items before it even allows it.
[23:16] <maco> magmarules: when you login at gdm, it should let you choose the language to login with if you click the options thing
[23:16] <sebsebseb> magmarules: Sounds a bit like my Mandriva 2010, I told it to use English for the install,  and tried to change after woulds, but yet it wants Amerian English.  I want it to use British English :)
[23:16] <madcheeze> pyrak, i dont think so, start with what you know...
[23:16] <pyrak> Flare183, i have a gig of swap, and it's not full
[23:16] <Fizix> halouf, have you tried whatever bluetooth device you're trying to interface with on anoter operating system before, as a frame of reference?
[23:16] <Flare183> pyrak: 5GB of swap here'
[23:17] <pyrak> Flare183, i'm actually not hitting the ceiling of my ram yet, but i have 4gb
[23:17] <Flare183> pyrak: That's only because I use my desktop for both a server and a regular computer..
[23:17] <Fizix> I has 9TB of swap, and 256KB of actual RAM. amidoinitryte?
[23:17] <halouf> Fizix, had no problem previously on vista/xp
[23:17] <pyrak> and it's a laptop and running really hot
[23:17] <pyrak> and really loud
[23:17] <pyrak> and i think that having less activity going on with the ram would help
[23:17] <Fizix> halouf, have you ran an update on Ubuntu?
[23:17] <Subby> how to delete recursively all ".svn" folders ?
[23:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Fizix: are you sure you meant 9TB?
[23:18] <madcheeze> pyrak, thats way more than enough ram to not really use the swap at all.
[23:18] <tnnc> can someone please help i have mysql 5.0.22 and phpmyadmin 2.8.1 here and up until maybe three days ago it worked fine and now when i run phpmyadmin it saids it fails to connect to mysql and to check config.inc.php to be sure the username and password are the same and they are but still no connect can someone help me to get this working again thanks
[23:18] <pyrak> Subby, google for it.  i found a bash script for that once
[23:18] <Fizix> rm --help
[23:18] <Fizix> Mike_lifeguard, nah, I was just doing it for the lulz.
[23:18] <Flare183> Fizix: Um like that's not possible, and/or that's just messed up.
[23:18] <halouf> Fizix, I'm on 9.04
[23:19] <pyrak> madcheeze, yeah, i figured.
[23:19] <pyrak> Fizix, oh those ever elusive lulz
[23:19] <Subby> pyrak: got, wasn't that hard ;)
[23:19] <Subby> got it*
[23:19] <madcheeze> pyrak, do you have a hardware monitor that works on each part?
[23:19] <madcheeze> pyrak, or a resource monitor?
[23:19] <Fizix> halouf, what's the device you're trying to sync to?
[23:20] <Flare183> tnnc: got mysqld running?
[23:20] <halouf> Fizix, a nokia 6210 navigator
[23:20] <madcheeze> holy #$!! the update from ubuntu for 9.10 is already huge...
[23:21] <oddsam> does anyone else thing that 9.10 is a little buggier than previous releases?
[23:21] <g__> hi, how do i add a user to another group?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: by the way that still counts as swearing in here, as far as I know anyway
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> madcheeze: yep you are a whole month behind
[23:21] <madcheeze> lol
[23:21] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: @ me ?
[23:21] <tnnc> Flare183 how can i check to be sure mysql i can get to from cmd prompt
[23:21] <evilGUI> oddsam: I do.
[23:21] <Fizix> madcheeze, Ubuntu 9.10 has over 9000 updates, hence the size.
[23:21] <dewly> linux
[23:21] <oddsam> @anyone
[23:21] <evilGUI> oddsam: But then again new releases have bugs.
[23:21] <dewly> lo maximo
[23:22] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, sorry, im not meaning to tick anyone off
[23:22] <KB1JWQ> thermal_: "mysql" should work.
[23:22] <Flare183> tnnc: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[23:22] <dewly> ola
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> g__: useradd -G group user
[23:22] <KB1JWQ> Er, that was to tnnc
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: didn't think you were, I was just saying :)
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> g__: needs sudo
[23:22] <dewly> dewly"ubuntuservers
[23:22] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, thanks!
[23:22] <oddsam> evilGUI: true but i'm still comparing straight out of the box
[23:22] <Fizix> halouf, try not setting the bluetooth "handshake" to require a PIN
[23:22] <magmarules> got it maco ty =)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: as for updates well
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: the more an install is left and not getting the updates, or
[23:22] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: your not even on that install yet, well yes the more updates
[23:22] <g__> thanks ActionParsnip, i think it may have worked!
[23:23] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: and it really does start to add up
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> g__: easy stuff
[23:23] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: and apparantly it's only security updates as well
[23:23] <halouf> Fizix, there is no pin set on my phone
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> g__: you can verify with: groups user
[23:23] <madcheeze> pyrak, just an fyi, my netbook is really hot in 9.10 also. have you updated everything?
[23:23] <tnnc> Flare183 yes it saids already started
[23:23] <Flare183> tnnc: then it should work.
[23:23] <g__> ActionParsnip: nope - i failed :(
[23:24] <KenBW2> Dell has made Chrome OS installable on their laptops. But why would it be 7.5GB when ubuntu is only 700MB?
[23:24] <oddsam> bloated beta code?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !ot | KenBW2
[23:24] <Fizix> halouf, set your phone on discovery mode, then when you have the bluetooth program search for devices, un-check the box the makes it ask for a PIN or for you to make one up; there should be an option for a PIN-less handshake
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> g__: you can also run: gksudo users-admin
[23:24] <g__> ActionParsnip: that's to add a new user though? i need to add an existing user to a group
[23:24] <tnnc> flare183 well when i run phpmyadmin it fails to connect saids using password no when it really should
[23:24] <juan__> hola
[23:25] <sebsebseb> !es |  juan__
[23:25] <KittyBoots> How do I change the repository sources through command?  There is a source that I want to remove, but I do not know how.  I can not do it through synaptic because the source causes it to shut down.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> g__: to add a new user to an existing group: sudo useradd -g group new_user_name
[23:26] <madcheeze> KittyBoots, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:26] <ratatim> I've downloaded Syslinux to put onto a usb drive to upgrade linux. should i just copy and paste it into the USB drive?
[23:26] <Hillshum> or sudo adduser username groups
[23:27] <Fizix> KittyBoots, have you tried removing it from the 'Software Sources' UI? System -> Admin -> Software Sources. Or I could just have been smarter and pointed you to where madcheeze did.
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, use unetbootin
[23:27] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[23:27] <ratatim> unetbootin! that's what I couldn't remember. I can get that on 8.04 correct?
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, yep
[23:27] <jacquesdupontd> i'm searching for somebody that knows a bit xorg.conf for nvidia
[23:27] <ratatim> madcheeze: thanks!!
[23:27] <madcheeze> ratatim, no prob
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> g__: the gksudo command I gave will allow you to make another user and add it to whatever groups you wish
[23:28] <Hillshum> anyone know of a way to play wma voice on linux?
[23:28] <Hodapp> How can I still have media automounted when I'm not running GNOME?
[23:28] <jacquesdupontd> i'm not bad at xorg.conf but i have a brand new hd TV and i don't know how to set my xorg so that it saves my settings
[23:28] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, vlc*
[23:28] <Fizix> jacquesdupontd, I'm afraid I don't, but what I DID learn over the last few months if that if you're running 9.04 or newer with X-ORG 1.6 and you have an older card, forget about it, it most likely won't be supported.
[23:28] <oddsam> @hodapp: fstab
[23:28] <Hodapp> oddsam: How will fstab assit with automounting?
[23:28] <Fizix> jacquesdupontd, I have the same problem with me ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300
[23:28] <Hodapp> s/assit/assist/
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: xorg.conf once set wioll save settings
[23:29] <Hillshum> jacquesdupontd: As in vlc-nox?
[23:29] <halouf> Fizix, I found the problem, it's the integrated blutooth device of my laptop, plugged a usb/bluetooth adaptor and it's working fine
[23:29] <jacquesdupontd> Fizix, what i wanna do is actually done it's just for saving it to my xorg.conf the nvidia-settings is giving me parse error
[23:29] <KittyBoots> madcheeze, Fizix: I got it, took out the source and all is well, thanks!
[23:29] <halouf> Fizix, thank you for your time ;)
[23:29] <Fizix> halouf, no problem, did that work for you?
[23:29] <Hodapp> oddsam: I speak of arbitrary USB devices that aren't known ahead of time.
[23:30] <Fizix> KittyBoots, NP!
[23:30] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: use sudo nvidia-settings
[23:30] <halouf> Fizix, yes it's working fine now
[23:30] <jacquesdupontd> Fizix, and no it's not an old card i have an asus laptop m60j intel core i7 with 4 gb of ddr3 and a geforce gt240m with 1 gb of ddr3 on it and 1 terrabyte + this new lg full hd tv i just bought
[23:31] <sisif> Hello guys. Can any one help me? All of a sudden, my ubuntu won`t boot. I can load the grub, but any thing past that gets stucked. I can`t even get a terminal to see what happens. Any idia on what shall I do next. I kinda trying to avoid reinstall the whole box. Thanks.
[23:31] <Fizix> halouf, ok good! That was my first fix/help on here!
[23:31] <sebsebseb> sisif: Which version of Ubuntu?
[23:32] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, i'll do it more simple, im not a newbie and it makes 5 years i'm on linux so i know what is sudo but if you knew a bit nvidia cards you would understand that  you can't save settings by doing a sudo launch
[23:32] <sisif> sebsebseb : 9.10
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sisif: so an upgrade from 9.04?
[23:32] <Fizix> sisif, if you partitioned the drive correctly with /home being in it's own partition, there's not much to fear in a re-install.
[23:32] <burkmat_> Intriguing issue: I run Banshee on both my Eee, and my new PC. Banshee on Eee (through apt) came with default playlists such as "Queue", "Recent Favorites", "Favorites", "Recently added" etc... but the new install on the PC brought nothing of the kind. How would I get it back? Queuing songs is a useful feature...
[23:32] <sisif> sebsebseb : No. I was a clean install. It worked just fine one hour ago.
[23:32] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: have fun and yes  you can but who am i to argue with 5 years
[23:32] <jacquesdupontd> so any idée here why i have this parse error first ?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sisif: what Fizix put
[23:33] <jacquesdupontd> shouldn't be like that when i try a save on my xorg.conf
[23:33] <sisif> Fizix : I know. I even have a restor point for all my packages installed so I can do a restore. But still ...
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sisif: clean install and then Grub 2 stops working hmm?
[23:33] <dtownhero> ctmjr, you're right. :p
[23:34] <SineDeviance> hey all
[23:34] <SineDeviance> question for you... ext3 or ext4?
[23:34] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, but i thank you for trying to help me but be sure that first when i ask a question i've searched on google a long time before and it's because my problem is not that easy to solve
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: hi
[23:34] <dtownhero> ctmjr, but you already knew that... was just giving you the E-pat on the back.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: that depends
[23:34] <Fizix> sisif, are you running on an older machine?
[23:34] <Hillshum> jacquesdupontd, Vlc isn't able to handle it. Might it be that I need w32codecs?
[23:34] <sisif> sebsebseb : yes. I now, it`s weird.
[23:34] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, on what?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: Ext3 or Ext4 for what?
[23:34] <jacquesdupontd> i've got an idea i'm gonna make separated screen
[23:34] <jay> exit
[23:34] <sisif> Fizix : not really. It`s a decent notebook.
[23:34] <mdg> ShawnRisk: hello
[23:34] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, speed
[23:35] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, try i think it should work yes with greffons
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: I didn't mean that
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: ,but Ext4 is the faster one in 9.04 anyway with / done in it, but  it's also a bit dodgy there, because of the kernel they have and such
[23:35] <nik0z> Give instant Google Wave invites for Dropbox Refferal SignUp: http://j.mp/4A4ZD6 U don't need to send me mail, I will see it after sign up!
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: when I tested 9.10 with Ext3 first and then Ext4,  it didn't really matter
[23:35] <mdg> ShawnRisk: still working on your wireless setup?
[23:35] <sisif> sebsebseb , Fizix : hint. Last time I used it I try to put it in hybernate mode. I think something got stucked.
[23:35] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, so i should use ext3 for / and /home?
[23:35] <jacquesdupontd> Hillshum, on any player actually i'm on kubuntu that by the way rox compared to what it was befire
[23:35] <Fizix> SineDeviance, I run ext4 without a problem, but I've heard people having on occasion issues. I say ext4 but if it's an older machine and you're worried about how many years or months you have left on the harddrive, I'd go with a non-journaling ext2 as it hits the drive less prolonging the drive's life.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: Ext4 is the default for 9.10
[23:36] <Hillshum> greffons?
[23:36] <ctmjr> jacquesdupontd: you can stop highlighting me and i really no longer care if you get it fixed
[23:36] <rlzy1r> Howdy, quick question. I'm running Karmic and sometimes, maybe 3 or 4 times a week, I get a blank black screen during boot. If I press anykeys I get to a terminal with builtin commands. Anyone come across this
[23:36] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, yeah i know, but crunchbang is based on 9.04
[23:36] <Hillshum> And how do I make sure vlc finds w32codecs?
[23:36] <jacquesdupontd> ctmjr, ok sorry man
[23:36] <maco> i tend to go with ext3 /home and ext4 / when i setup other people's systems
[23:36] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: someone got some currupted  data files issue or something with 9.10,  the one that's mentioned in the release notes
[23:36] <ctmjr> dtownhero: thank you
[23:36] <maco> ive lost data to ext4 before
[23:36] <maco> 3 times
[23:36] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: when doing Ext4
[23:36] <sebsebseb> maco: oh you as well hmm
[23:36] <SineDeviance> okay, i think i'll go with ext3 then
[23:36] <SineDeviance> thanks!
[23:36] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: hang on
[23:36] <Fizix> sisif, oh those pesky hibernation modes! Sisif, what filesystem are you using on your machine?
[23:37] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: you could go with XFS instead, that has the Ext4 advantages
[23:37] <sisif> Fizix : ext4
[23:37] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: and been around much longer
[23:37] <jacquesdupontd> i know i'm a bad guy and i should stop caring about losing time with people giving you answers of newbie
[23:37] <maco> sebsebseb: i still use ext4 for my system. ive just started actually keeping backups now
[23:37] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: just not that many Ubuntu users use it
[23:37] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, also ext4 isn't readable in windows with the ext fs driver, is it?
[23:37] <maco> SineDeviance: not htat im aware
[23:37] <Fizix> Sisif, some people have a problem with EXt4, try going to ext3. It does journaling too but doesn't have some of the fancier support for solid-state harddrives
[23:37] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: I think there is the driver, but it won't work well at all
[23:37] <SineDeviance> okay... yeah i guess i'll go with ext3 for compatibility then...
[23:37] <SineDeviance> thanks everyone
[23:38] <Fizix> NP
[23:38] <boxxy_> do you think there's a script in Ubuntu that sets /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only to 0 once it boots? As it always goes back to 0, even if I set 1, after a reboot......... :/
[23:38] <ratatim> When I click on Unetbootin it won't load. What should I do?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: go with Ext4 since it's the default for 9.10, or go with what maco says which is I don't know yet, but she tends to know her stuff
[23:38] <sisif> Fizix : I don`t need support for SSD.
[23:38] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, im not installing 9.10. i am install crunchbang which is based on 9.04
[23:38] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: oh
[23:38] <SineDeviance> yeah
[23:38] <sisif> Fizix : is there any way to delete the hibernation file(s) so I can just boot it nornaly ?
[23:38] <mdg> SineDeviance: I have CB on a old laptop
[23:38] <Fizix> sisif, then I'd say switch to ext3 in the interim if your only problem is in hibernation
[23:38] <dtownhero> jacquesdupontd, thing is, you're wrong and to stubborn to take advice. I'm sure you can figure it out on your own with the 5 years of linux logged...
[23:38] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: well in that case wrong channel really,  and maybe Ext3
[23:39] <maco> sebsebseb: the setup i mentioned means that while / might go, your /home should be ok. so your data is safer, but your boot is fastr, and if / breaks...meh, reinstalling is easier than getting back lost user dat
[23:39] <maco> *data
[23:39] <Fizix> Sisif, I'm sure there is, but I'm not knowledgeable enough for that one.
[23:39] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, well yeah, i know it's the wrong channel technically but they use the same kernel and such as 9.04 default so i figured it would still apply. anyways, thanks :D
[23:39] <sisif> Fizix : the irony, this was the 1st time i tried hibernation. I usually go for Suspend.
[23:39] <sebsebseb> maco: well / can be done in Ext4 and  /home can be done in Ext3,  I never had issues with Ext4 myself though
[23:39] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: ok well
[23:40] <maco> sebsebseb: yeah thats how i did my brother' and mom's computers
[23:40] <ratatim> Can someone tell me how to run Unetbootin? I downloaded it to my desktop and when I click on it nothing is happening
[23:40] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: back up your stuff and Ext4 in  Crunchang/9.04 sure why not
[23:40] <burkmat_> ratatim, try running `chmod +x filename` on it
[23:40] <MarkGil> Hi, is it possible to use ulimit to restrict memory usage of rogue programs from the init scripts?  rsyslog is wasting lots of memory, and on a embedded sheevaplug, it's not great
[23:40] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: then you get speed improvements, but there is a slight chance of data loss or something
[23:40] <Fizix> sisif, since the both filesystems (ext3 and 4) are journaling filesystems, you can hibernate for either/or. You may have better luck with 3
[23:40] <jacquesdupontd> dtownhero, you're right that's what i'm diong
[23:40] <ratatim> burkmat_: thanks i'll see if that helps
[23:41] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: or have Ext3,  and slower boot up, and don't have to think about data loss at all
[23:41] <MarkGil> It's sorted hinted here, but does not really tell me know to do it.  http://wiki.rsyslog.com/index.php/Reducing_memory_usage
[23:41] <magmarules> unn all this effor and still ... anyone knows how to diactivate the Whobby effect when "scaling" windows to change app/window ?
[23:41] <losha> SineDeviance: ext4 isn't readable in windows, or lots of 3rd party things like super grub disk, older live cds, other linux distros etc.
[23:41] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: also I woudn't recommend sharing your Linux partitions with Windows, after all a Windows virus could then delete stuff from those as well
[23:41] <ratatim> burkmat_: when I run that command it says "no such file or directory"
[23:42] <SineDeviance> okay, yeah i'l go with ext3 then
[23:42] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: oh you were on here with two names?
[23:42] <SineDeviance> i need them to be readable in windows with the ext fs driver
[23:42] <Fizix> SineDeviance, that sounds like the safest bet to me
[23:42] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, no i got disconnected
[23:42] <jacquesdupontd> dtownhero, i think i'm better at helping cause i can't stop getting anoyed of the time i loose explaining all to people that wants absolutely to answer you even if they don't know anything about what you're asking
[23:42] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: why?
[23:42] <sisif> Any one here hasanyh idea on how I may delete a failed hibrnation image from my swap using a LiveCD?
[23:42] <burkmat_> ratatim, well... replace "filename" with the actual filename?
[23:42] <dusty1> hey its me again i have yet another real stupid question can i change my icon that is part of my application menu to something else?
[23:42] <RetianFes> Is it possible to pin Konversation to the mail icon on the tab bar when it's not running like Empathy does?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> maybe you missed this then
[23:42] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: also I woudn't recommend sharing your Linux partitions with Windows, after all a Windows virus could then delete stuff from those as well
[23:42] <ratatim> burkmat_: that's what I did.
[23:43] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, right, but i mount them in ro
[23:43] <SineDeviance> so there's no danger
[23:43] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: in what?
[23:43] <SineDeviance> linux is my main OS
[23:43] <Fizix> SineDeviance, sebebseb brings up a good point.
[23:43] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, in windows. the fs driver gives you the option to mount partitions read-only
[23:43] <SineDeviance> which i do
[23:43] <burkmat_> ratatim, ...are you sure the file is in the directory you're in?
[23:43] <dtownhero> that was one angry retarded frenchman...
[23:43] <losha> sisif: can't you just reformat the swap partition using gparted?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: oh I see, well as far as I know that driver does not work well with Ext4
[23:44] <sisif> losha : I don`t know. That`s why I`m asking :P
[23:44] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, yeah, on the internets it says it only supports ext3
[23:44] <dusty1> hey its me again i have yet another real stupid question can i change my icon that is part of my application menu to something else?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: you coudl do / in Ext4
[23:44] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: a seperate data partition :) to share with Windows and not read only if you like
[23:44] <losha> sisif: then let me rephrase: try reformatting the swap partition using gparted....
[23:44] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, it also says that the kernel that comes with 9.04 has ext4 issues
[23:44] <ratatim> burkmat_: i don't know... how do I find out? haha sorry i'm not too knowledgeable to command
[23:44] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: or  /home and read only when it comes to Windows
[23:44] <ctmjr> dtownhero: yes it was classic example of not seeing the forest because the trees are in his way
[23:44] <sisif> losha : haha. Nicely said :)
[23:44] <jcp> how do i redirect both stdout and stderr to a file?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: /  Ext4    home  or data partition Ext3
[23:44] <burkmat_> ratatim, ah... well, where is the Unetbootin file located?
[23:44] <jcp> without overwriting the file
[23:45] <goose> is there a way I can control my fan speed on my ubuntu server box? (preferably one that does not involve ramming a screwdriver into the fan to stop the blades from spinning entirely :p)
[23:45] <Fizix> If you want to go super-geek, you can have another linux OS running inside of Windows via a virtual machine... that should be able to see your other partition, no?
[23:45] <dtownhero> heh
[23:45] <jcp> i want to write to the end of the file, not overwrite the file
[23:45] <gandhi> 1> file 2> file
[23:45] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: yes and that's what I put, the kernel apparnatlly has issues
[23:45] <jcp> script &>> file ?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: ,but if your  data partitions are in Ext3 that should be fine for sure
[23:45] <ratatim> burkmat_: well it's on my desktop. It should be in the desktop directory or what-not
[23:45] <maco> Fizix: no
[23:45] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, i already have a 1tb external drive in ntfs so i guess that could be a shared partition. but sometimes it's just easier to copy directly than to copy twice :D
[23:45] <maco> Fizix: a vm cant see what the host cant see
[23:45] <burkmat_> ratatim, Alright. Try running `chmod +x Desktop/filename` then.
[23:45] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: I did Ext4 for / and /home and no issues,  but others  have had
[23:45] <VCoolio> jcp: >> adds, > overwrites
[23:45] <ratatim> burkmat_: ok i'll see what that does
[23:46] <Fizix> maco, ahh ok, I always wondered that. Thank you for that info
[23:46] <sisif> losha : guess what. The swap partion is locked under gparted :P
[23:46] <jcp> VCoolio: but i want it to write both stderr and stdout, will that work?
[23:46] <SineDeviance> well, it's installing
[23:46] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: in fat the only issue when it came to Ext4  was when Vista deleted my seperate /home partition twice, well I installed it twice
[23:46] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: second time I coudn't recover all data that I had put on it, or whatever, but oh well, nothing important
[23:46] <sebsebseb> SineDeviance: on the new  /home I had created I mean
[23:46] <jrib> jcp: why not just try what you said? :)  (it works on zsh, probably the same on bash)
[23:46] <SineDeviance> sebsebseb, ouch
[23:47]  * Fizix has been running with a Vista Ultimate and Ubuntu dual-boot/partition for several years now without a hiccup.
[23:47] <ratatim> burkmat_: I got this error message when i tried running it again:   "7z not found. This is required for either install mode. Install the "p7zip-full" package or your distribution's equivalent"
[23:47] <jcp> jrib: i wasnt sure if that would work, i was asking, but i'll do that
[23:47] <Fizix> ratatim, try sudo apt-get install p7zip-full  ??
[23:47] <howie_> hey
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Fizix: I had  no issues with Vista Home Premium, untill I decided to re install recently, and it fighted over where it wanted to go, and bye bye my  seperate   Ext4  /home both times, even though I had told it to install in the space that wasn't being used
[23:47] <jrib> jcp: you try with a test command and file of course
[23:48] <howie_> ok
[23:48] <burkmat_> ratatim, Ah... Well then, run `sudo apt-get install p7zip-full` and try again. ;) I'm off to bed, so can't help you anymore. Good luck!
[23:48] <howie_> fuck u thn
[23:48]  * ActionParsnip runs pure linux and has no need for a silly dual boot and has zero issues
[23:48] <howie_> bfn
[23:48] <howie_> fnmd
[23:48] <ratatim> burkmat_: thanks!
[23:48] <howie_> ngfm
[23:48] <sisif> Famous last words: let`s see if I can boot now :)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah I don't really need a dual boot either
[23:48] <maco> !language | howie_
[23:48] <howie_> fnm,
[23:48] <FloodBot4> howie_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <howie_> idhf
[23:48] <losha> sisif: some live cds use the swap partition, I think. If so, that may have taken care of the issue....
[23:48] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ,but then I think, maybe I want to play some 3D Windows game in the future on this computer,  a virtual machine won't be good enough
[23:48] <blue0488> I can't get snowballZ can any one help?
[23:48] <goose> (repeat from a few minutes ago) is there a way I can control my fan speed on my ubuntu server box? (preferably one that does not involve ramming a screwdriver into the fan to stop the blades from spinning entirely :p)
[23:48] <dusty1> hmm i suppose no one can help me :(
[23:48] <howie_> vnm,
[23:48] <howie_> yumdmdd
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:48] <Fizix> sebsebseb, ahh I see. I've never re-installed Vista without also re-installing Ubuntu; I've never install Vista after I already had Ubuntu loaded. That's a bummer. Yea I headr M$ is whack like that.
[23:48] <howie_> d
[23:49] <FloodBot4> howie_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <goose> !ops | howie_ is a nonsensical troll
[23:49] <sisif> losha : yeah. I managed to format it. Let`s see what happens now ..
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: penumbra and frets on fire is all i need :D
[23:49] <maco> !ops | howie_ is typing gibberih
[23:49] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: penumbra not heard of that
[23:49] <ratatim> fizix: thanks for helping me out too
[23:49] <goose> beat you to it maco ;p
[23:49] <maco> goose: aye you win
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its a paid for game but the demo is real good. well worth the cash
[23:49]  * Fizix sets mode: +awesome Fizix
[23:49] <maco> jrib: *snort* your kick message is the appeal process?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Fizix: yes that's what I did,  Vista first then Ubuntu,  and I did it twice two re installs, because...
[23:50] <sebsebseb> Fizix: of both OS's
[23:50] <jrib> maco: on bans anyway
[23:50] <blue0488> can some one help me get snowballZ to work?
[23:50] <Fizix> sebsebseb: Well I'll definitely keep that in mind next time I feel like nuking Vista, thank you.
[23:50] <buttons840> my /lib/lsb/init-functions appears to be incomplete, can i get a fresh version, is this something standard or it is different on all distros/machines?
[23:50] <VCoolio> jcp: did it work already? as a mod of output to null try something like >>/path/to/file 2>>&1
[23:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well maybe it is to some extent,  since  then you will be supporting a game company that actsauly bothers making for Desktop Linux?
[23:50] <janmigue> hola tengo un problema , alguno de ustedes puede jugar el juego youville de facebook utilizando el fash player 10 en ubuntu 9.10 ????
[23:51] <jrib> !es | janmigue
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Fizix: well maybe it was since Vista wasn't on my first partition, that I got these issues
[23:51] <tehloki_> I had ubuntu installed in an ext4 partition and winxp installed in an ntfs partition. I deleted the ntfs partition and created a 200gb fat32 partition and left 50gb unpartitioned, then installed windows 7 to the unpartitioned space. Now I have 4 primary partitions and none of them will boot. I just get "disk error" whenever I try. However, I can boot from a Live CD and see that all my partitions are there. What do I do?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Fizix: that was probably it in fact
[23:51] <Altreus[Hireme]> Karmic server edition; installed xserver-xorg from apt; Radeon 9200 PRO "No valid linear framebuffer address" -- any help? google is not helping
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: yes the game runs natively :D
[23:51] <tehloki_> do i have too many primary partitions?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> tehloki_: you cna have 4 primnary partitions
[23:51] <buttons840> tehloki_, maybe reinstall grub, i don't know
[23:51] <Fizix> tehloki_, if you have 4, no.
[23:52] <tehloki_> I
[23:52] <mr> i
[23:52] <tehloki_> I've reinstalled grub on the ext4 partition.
[23:52] <tehloki_> still doesn't boot.
[23:52] <goose> (repeat from a few minutes ago) is there a way I can control my fan speed on my ubuntu server box? (preferably one that does not involve ramming a screwdriver into the fan to stop the blades from spinning entirely :p)
[23:52] <mr> i
[23:52] <tehloki_> is this something wrong with my hard disk? i can see all the files from the windows installation and my linux installation.
[23:52] <tehloki_> or maybe my bios...
[23:53] <Snausages> goose: been through this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[23:53] <Altreus[Hireme]> it works with vesa driver
[23:53] <Altreus[Hireme]> I guess I could try proprietary ATI
[23:53] <Fizix> tehloki_, did you just install Ubuntu and now it's not working?
[23:53] <tehloki_> I'm going to try deleting the windows install, reinstalling grub again, and booting
[23:54] <tehloki_> Fizix: I just installed windows 7 and now neither OS will boot
[23:54] <tehloki_> even after reinstalling grub
[23:54] <Fizix> tehloki_, M$ whipes my stuff out too. The safest way to do a dual-boot is always to have Windows installed first, then put Ubuntu on top of that.
[23:55] <Altreus[Hireme]> oh the proprietary fglrx driver does not support my card
[23:55] <tehloki_> wait, should i be reinstalling grub on the ext4 partition or the swap partition
[23:55] <Altreus[Hireme]> nor apparently does the open-source one :P
[23:55] <ratatim> Unetbootin can't seem to find the .iso image on my desktop. even when I choose the desktop directory. what should i do?
[23:56] <madcheeze> wow all, the updates screwed my system up bad...
[23:56] <madcheeze> complete crash
[23:56] <madcheeze> wouldnt launch x at all
[23:56] <ratatim> madcheeze: hey could you tell me why Unetbootin wont find my iso image?
[23:56] <madcheeze> ratatim, where is your image located?
[23:57] <ratatim> madcheeze: on the desktop. should be in the desktop directory but when i use unetbootin it doesnt show.
[23:57] <madcheeze> i think i interrupted the update
[23:57] <madcheeze> ratatim, did you choose the iso option in the middle?
[23:58] <ratatim> madcheeze: yes i did
[23:58] <madcheeze> ratatim, then click the three dots to the right, and navigate to your desktop
[23:58] <madcheeze> ratatim, it should show your iso image
[23:58] <madcheeze> ratatim, is it an iso or an .img file?
[23:58] <ratatim> madcheeze: that's what i've been trying but its not there. It goes to root then to desktop then nothing is there. it's an .iso file
[23:59] <sebsebseb> maco: Going back to earlier briefly.  / in Ext4 and  /home in Ext3,  I thought about that when I found out that Ext4 is dodgy in 9.04 since the kernel and that.  However I guess Ext4 is good enough now, or 9.10 woudn't be using it as the default file system?
[23:59] <madcheeze> ratatim, thats weird.
[23:59] <madcheeze> ratatim, windows?
[23:59] <ratatim> madcheeze: yeah tell me about it. I run 8.04. I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 using a usb drive