[00:41]  * ScottK hands dtchen http://www.spamcop.net/anonsignup.shtml
[00:57] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: typo on blog: "On bug triage we'll not use DrKonqi for upstream" <- should be apport
[00:58] <dtchen> or just remove the "'ll not " part
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> or at least then the next sentence would make sense, and it would be in agreement with the current spec :P
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> oh, that would work too
[01:00] <JontheEchidna> s/out/our in that same sentence
[01:06] <Lex79> ScottK: spell checking doesn't work in 4.3.4 and I think in 4.3.3, I don't remember if worked before 4.3.3
[01:19] <ScottK> Lex79: It's working here with 4.3.2.
[01:19] <ScottK> So this is a regression we'd need to deal with before 4.3.3/4 could go into karmic-updates.
[01:23] <ScottK> Also, our updates policy is on the tech board agenda for tomorrow.  Will anyone be able to be there?
[01:23]  * ScottK is a maybe.
[03:25] <shtylman> something for the blogs :) http://www.shtylman.com/archives/154
[03:38] <ScottK> shtylman: Why are you not on planet.ubuntu.com?
[03:51] <shtylman> ScottK: cause I don't always blog about ubuntu stuff
[03:51] <ScottK> shtylman: You can make a catagory for Ubuntu and only have that go to p.u.c.
[03:51] <shtylman> and i probly don't blog enough in general :)
[03:52] <shtylman> interesting...didn't know that
[03:53] <ScottK> shtylman: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu "Separating Your Content"
[03:53] <shtylman> ScottK: should I talk to someone about that? is it worth posting such stuff there?
[03:53] <ScottK> shtylman: The page I just linked you to tells everything you need to add yourself.
[03:53] <ScottK> shtylman: And yes, I think it is.
[03:54] <shtylman> k... I will look at that. Thanks
[03:55] <ScottK> No problem.
[04:23] <nixternal> apachelogger: ok, I give up on rewriting khc....man that bad boy would take some engineering work just to make since of the shit it is already
[04:34] <nixternal> ok, is there something needing packaging? my eyes are burning from c++ right now
[04:34] <nixternal> qt3toqt4 can make a mess of stuff
[04:35] <nixternal> holy shit!!! so, the wonderful backend to khc is....well....quite a bit of perl thanks to htdig, htsearch, and the meinproc scripts
[04:35]  * nixternal faints
[04:36] <ScottK> nixternal: Is Qt 4.6.0 final out yet?
[04:36] <ScottK> nixternal: There's also the shared ontologies we'll need for 4.4.
[04:38] <nixternal> bah ontologies! i have read the nepomuk docs so much, that I am an ontologist :p
[04:38]  * nixternal hopes ontologist doesn't mean some funky ass doctor for dinosaurs or something
[04:39] <ScottK> I think it's birds, not dinosaurs.
[04:39] <ScottK> nixternal: There's also an open ITP for the ontologies in Debian, so maybe there's something in their svn.
[04:43] <nixternal> Qt 4.6 RC's yet
[04:46] <ScottK> Then I think shared ontologies and any other new crap we need for 4.4 is the highest priority.
[04:49] <nixternal> # DCMI liability, trademark/service mark, document use and  software licensing rules apply.
[04:49] <nixternal> wtf kind of licensing shit is that? that is in the ontologies .trig files
[04:50] <ScottK> nixternal: Where can I grab the whole file to look at?
[04:50] <nixternal> http://sourceforge.net/projects/oscaf/files/
[04:50] <ScottK> Thanks.  Looking
[04:52] <nixternal> ScottK: all of the subdirectories except for base/ are fine
[04:52]  * ScottK didn't see it in tmo
[04:52] <nixternal> the .trig files in base/ have a weird, non-dfsg copyright comment
[04:53] <nixternal> base/ is the only place I saw it
[04:53]  * ScottK tries again
[04:53] <nixternal> # All Rights Reserved.
[04:53] <nixternal> # W3C liability, trademark, document use and software licensing rules apply.
[04:53] <nixternal> # For more information see http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/
[04:53] <ScottK> I read your comment backwards
[04:53] <nixternal> there is another license deal in the rdfs.trig file
[04:55] <nixternal> those schemas would be better served remotely imho, like xml, html, docbook, and kparts xml gui stuff is
[04:59] <ScottK> Some of this doesn't look good.
[04:59] <nixternal> there, asked pusling since he did the ITP on it
[05:00] <ScottK> SInce KDE 4.4 depends on this, it's important to scream loudly and quickly if it's a problem.
[05:00] <nixternal> 'All Rights Reserved' is non-dsfg last I remember
[05:01] <ScottK> Well if it's that and a license, that's generally interpreted as "All other rights reserved".
[05:02] <ScottK> nixternal: Some of http://dublincore.org/about/copyright/ is clearly non-free.
[05:02] <ScottK> It doesn't appear that all of that directory falls under the CC stuff listed on that page and we'd still need a copy in that tarball in any case.
[05:04] <nixternal> RDF and XML schemas that are made available on the DCMI Web site (see http://dublincore/schemas/) are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.
[05:04] <nixternal> that is under copyright on their site
[05:05] <ScottK> Yes, is everything in that directory RDF or XML schemas?
[05:05] <nixternal> .trig files are the schemas
[05:06] <nixternal> usually you never see these things, as they are hosted on a public server, and when you are using the schema, you just call it like you do with xml
[05:06] <ScottK> Right, but, for example, is dcterms.trig RDF?  It's not XML.
[05:08] <nixternal> rdf
[05:08] <nixternal> rdf:type
[05:08] <nixternal> that gives it away, if it were xml, then it would be 'xml:type'
[05:08] <nixternal> if there were such a thing for xml of course
[05:09] <ScottK> So they've even got the license in the tarball.
[05:09] <ScottK> They just don't say what license applies to those files.
[05:09] <ScottK> It's still reject material, but close.
[05:12] <ScottK> Time for me to call it a night. Good luck.
[05:33] <nixternal> hrmm, it seems the ontologies that aren't under base/ were in kdebase-runtime-data for <4.4
[08:32] <ghostcube> =\
[08:32] <ghostcube> ups
[08:32] <ghostcube> O/
[08:32] <ghostcube> hehe
[08:32] <amichair> ghostcube: everything alright?
[08:32] <ghostcube> nah my keyboard has some probs :D mayxbe i should turn on a light before typing
[08:33] <amichair> mayxbe you should :-)
[08:33] <ghostcube> oh yeah
[08:33] <ghostcube> :)
[09:23] <amichair> what is the deadline by which all bugs for LTS must be closed (and/or transferred upstream)?
[09:24] <tsimpson> there is no deadline for that, as such
[09:25] <tsimpson> bugs can be fixed right up until release
[09:25] <amichair> isn't LTS supposed to be more stable than that?
[09:25] <maco> no
[09:26] <maco> it just gets updates longer
[09:26] <maco> thats all LTS means
[09:26] <tsimpson> what's the point of an LTS if bugs can't be fixed? ;)
[09:26] <amichair> oh, I thought it meant there's an effort to make it more stable
[09:26] <tsimpson> sure there is
[09:27] <amichair> (becaues u have to pay a longer price if not :-) )
[09:27] <tsimpson> fixing bugs is part of that
[09:27] <maco> due to people whining about it not being stable enough with hardy.... yeah, we're syncing from Testing instead of Unstable this time, so everything gets TEN WHOLE DAYS more testing time before reaching ubuntu
[09:27]  * maco giggle
[09:28] <tsimpson> you'll find fewer new "features" in an LTS, so "real bugs" get more attention
[09:28] <maco> but in all seriousness, the crazy unstable new features were put in 9.10 to get better testing before 10.04
[09:29] <amichair> and what about the timelord move-everything-to-upstream thing?
[09:30] <maco> its not move to upstream
[09:30] <maco> its dont-have-bugs-filed-in-lp-to-begin-with
[09:30] <maco> apport-kde being turned off for kde apps and just let DrKonqi handle it
[09:30] <tsimpson> KDE bugs should really go to KDE
[09:31] <amichair> no initial cleanup phase? what about the existing 1700 open issues?
[09:31] <maco> no idea
[09:32] <tsimpson> if you want to review them, be my guest :)
[09:32] <tsimpson> we do need to look at them and upstream as necessary, but it's a man-power issue mostly
[09:33] <amichair> I actually thought of proposing a bug-week sprint or something... with a little concentrated effort, the list can be thinned down greatly
[09:34] <amichair> it looks like there's less than 10 issues opened every day, so bug maintenance barely sounds like a resource problem
[09:35] <tsimpson> it's not just the number that's reported every day, it's updating/maintaining the bugs which are already there
[09:36] <amichair> what does that include? isn't it mostly about syncing with upstream bug reports?
[09:37] <tsimpson> depends on the bug, but also getting more information also
[09:38] <tsimpson> and determining if it is an upstream bug, or one we or debian introduced
[09:39] <amichair> so basically now the folks at kde will do that for us? how will kubuntu-specific bugs reach us?
[09:40] <tsimpson> they'll probably tell the reporter "this is an issue with kubuntu, report to them" or similar
[09:40] <tsimpson> but most of the bugs will be for KDE, rather than us
[09:40] <amichair> hopefully. otherwise, they'll just get lost in the process, and kubuntu quality will suffer
[09:41] <tsimpson> the only issue will be that the line numbers in the backtrace (if it's a good backtrace) will not always match their source
[09:41] <tsimpson> due to patches
[09:43]  * jussi01 wishes for more kde bugtracker <-> Launchpad integration
[09:44] <maco> oh oh lp people showed magic at uds!
[09:44] <maco> mozilla has this plugin installed so that their bugtracker info and comments can be pulled into lp and comments to their bts can be made from lp
[09:44] <amichair> maco: ?
[09:46] <amichair> any chance of getting that to work with kde?
[10:00] <amichair> is anyone here familiar with the jocket/dbus code?
[10:00] <amichair> s/jocket/jockey/
[10:01] <maco> amichair: convince kde to install the plugin
[10:07] <jussi01> so who do we know from that part of KDE? seriously, it would make both our lives and theirs much easier.
[11:56]  * jussi01 hugs Nightrose
[11:56]  * Nightrose hugs jussi01 back even if he doesn't want to give her a pony
[11:57] <Nightrose> or let her skip dezember
[11:59] <jussi01> Nightrose: I event thought of changing this factoid for you :P
[12:00] <jussi01> !pony-#ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Nightrose> :D
[12:45] <apachelogger> nixternal: yeah, khc is the ugly
[13:29] <dpm> Mamarok, thanks for forwarding the e-mail on documentation translation to kubuntu-devel@
[13:40] <rgreening> y6a, second that :P
[13:40] <rgreening> s/y6a/ya
[13:57] <Mamarok> dpm: you are welcome, I was just surprised it as not in there :)
[14:01] <EagleScreen> what thing run KDM during bootup in karmic? it is not in rc system!
[14:19] <gastly> hello
[14:35] <Lex79> sebas: where is libattica tarball?
[14:40] <sebas> Lex79: there is none, as far as I know
[14:40] <sebas> you 'll have to grab it from kdesupport
[14:41] <JontheEchidna> ooh... does this mean ktown has 4.4 beta tars?
[14:41] <Lex79> good :)
[14:42] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: wake up ! :)
[14:44] <JontheEchidna> I woke up an hour ago but I had to rebuild my local copy of konversation due to the qt 4.6 BIC crap
[14:46] <Lex79> I'm building 4.6 final release , I almost finished
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> nice
[14:50] <yuriy> I don't kno what this means, but I can be Kubuntu contact for MA team
[14:50] <yuriy> *Massachusetts
[14:54] <ScottK> It means more work, but no extra pay.  Just like most promotions.
[15:03] <ghostcube> 4.6 QT final o.O
[15:05] <tsimpson> s/QT/Qt/ :)
[15:13] <rgreening> yay Qt 4.6
[15:13]  * apachelogger is wondering whats with ghostcube and quick time all the time :P
[15:16] <mcas> can anyone tell me where the kde sc 4.3.4 packages will be located?
[15:19] <neversfelde> mcas: normally bugfix releases of KDE should go to the updates ppa
[15:19] <neversfelde> "Updates for Kubuntu releases which are due to go to Ubuntu Updates. Mostly KDE point releases."
[15:19] <mcas> thx
[15:24] <ghostcube> apachelogger: who cares about quicktime :D so i just use it for Qt
[15:24] <ghostcube> löl
[15:24] <apachelogger> you use quick time for Qt?
[15:24] <apachelogger> now that is all messed up
[15:25] <ghostcube> lol nah i use QT for Qt
[15:25] <ghostcube> :P
[15:25] <ghostcube> but i try to use Qt from now on :)
[15:38] <Daskreech> Hooray KDE 4.4 today!
[15:40] <apachelogger> KDE SC 4.4!!!!
[15:42] <ScottK> Apparenatly Daskreech didn't get the memo
[15:44] <Daskreech> no I was talking about the release of the new community
[15:44]  * Daskreech flees
[15:58] <apachelogger> nu community :D
[15:58] <apachelogger> them KDE people cant get any fancier
[15:59] <Tm_T> apachelogger: except more fluff into hats
[15:59] <apachelogger> more fluff is always possible
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> libattica is a nice, quick compile
[16:01] <Tm_T> I'm still bit confused what it is used for
[16:32] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libattica <- revu please
[16:33] <JontheEchidna> whoops, forgot to delete the homepage link from the package I ripped the packaging from
[16:41] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Short description should follow "libattica0 is a ...."  Current phrasing is a bit awkward (for both binaries)
[16:43] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Why not use the dh7 short rules and build --with-kde and drop CDBS?
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> all the reasons I had seem to not make sense now, lol
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> "libattica0 is a library for..." <- like that?
[16:47] <ScottK> Yeah.  Pretty much.
[16:49] <Lex79> KDE 4.3.4 is ready in kubuntu-ppa/staging
[16:52] <Daskreech> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/112210/index.html
[16:54] <ghostcube> Lex79: wohooo
[16:54] <ghostcube> will dl it later
[16:54] <Lex79> ;)
[16:55] <ghostcube> :)
[17:00] <Quintasan> yay packaging!
[17:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: Does the archive reorg means I should apply for Kubuntu Dev rather than MOTU?
[17:01] <ScottK> Quintasan: Probably.
[17:03] <jjesse> is there a good link explaining the archive reorg?  just trying to stay up to date
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: were those the only problems with the package? (I've corrected both of them with the latest upload)
[17:04] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: hmm forgot to ask, did you upload recorditnow?
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: yeah. It's sitting in new queue
[17:04] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Sorry.  Got distracted.
[17:05] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Thanks!
[17:05] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: no prob
[17:08] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Since it's LGPL 2 or later, it's slightly better to link to the unversioned LGPL in common licenses.
[17:10] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I: libattica source: binary-control-field-duplicates-source field "section" in package libattica0
[17:11] <JontheEchidna> hmm. I gave the libattica source package the section of libs and then gave libattica0 the section of libs
[17:11] <JontheEchidna> that means i don't have to give libattica0 a section?
[17:12] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Exactly.  It's inherited from the source, so you only need to specify if it's different.
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> cool beans
[17:15] <ScottK> I'm building it now.  Need to run off for a bit.
[17:19] <Quintasan> !package lucid python-kde4
[17:19] <Quintasan> !package python-kde4
[17:19] <Quintasan> :/
[17:19] <Quintasan> !package kdebindings
[17:19] <Daskreech> question does Kubuntu maintain the Qt packages ?
[17:20] <Daskreech> Isn't Qt part of the freedesktopspec ?
[17:20] <claydoh> Daskreech: nice run down memory lane :) surprising how the (non)issues in that sort of article *still* come up in rants a year later
[17:21] <Daskreech> Yeah I was looking at it and going Wow I remember when people thought these were valid issues
[17:21] <Daskreech> People still say they are but I really don't know what they base it on
[17:21] <Daskreech> well perhaps Konqueror using dolphinpart
[17:21] <Daskreech> Other than that
[17:27] <Tm_T> !info python-kde4
[17:27] <Tm_T> Quintasan: see (:
[17:27] <Tm_T> !bot > Quintasan
[17:30] <Quintasan> Tm_T: thanks
[17:38] <Tm_T> np (:
[17:45] <Daskreech> Why is KDE good for Govt?
[17:46] <Daskreech> Or I suppose why is Kubuntu good for Govt
[17:47] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: build-dep on debhelper needs to be at least 7.0.50 to use --with.
[17:47] <ScottK> Daskreech: I bet Tonio_ knows how to answer that.
[17:48] <nixternal> ScottK: the packaging for shared-desktop-ontologies couldn't be any easier with the whole '%: dh $@'...just want some feedback pertaining to the licensing and waiting to see what Debian does
[17:48] <ScottK> nixternal: Excellent.
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: oh.. you were working on shared-desktop-ontologies?
[17:48] <ScottK> nixternal: We need to have it say in the tarball what the license is.
[17:48] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: just looked at it....the licensing is bogus in it
[17:49] <ScottK> nixternal: I'd accept a repacked tarball that added a copy of the web page that explains it (I think)
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it's a weird "either CC-By or BSD"
[17:49] <ScottK> Those aren't the problem.
[17:49] <Tonio_> ScottK, Daskreech ? :)
[17:49] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: no, there are some license headers in base/ that say 'All Rights Reserved'
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> ah, yeah
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> you can't exactly reserve all rights like that
[17:50] <Tonio_> Daskreech: I can respond to this indeed, at least why I consider kde a better choice than gnome on that point
[17:50] <nixternal> but if you go to the website like the headers say and look, then those files are both BSD and CC-By-SA
[17:50] <Tonio_> Daskreech: feel free to ask :) the response might be long, so better go with e-mail for this
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> Here's what I had for debian/copyright: http://paste.ubuntu.com/332482/
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> I hadn't really gotten to the actual packaging yet
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> http://bugs.debian.org/448028
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> er
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> http://bugs.debian.org/558028
[17:52] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: libattica0: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libattica.so.0.1.0 usr/lib/libattica.so
[17:52] <ScottK> A symbols file would be nice.
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> What are symbols files for/how do I make one?
[17:54] <nixternal> ScottK: instead of repacking the tarball couldn't we add the info for now to the copyright file, that way there syncs will be easier with Debian when they get theirs out?
[17:55] <nixternal> or add an extra LICENSE.base.trig or something under debian/?
[17:55] <ScottK> nixternal: No.  The upstream licensing information needs to be complete in the upstream tarball.
[17:55] <nixternal> well that sucks
[17:55] <ScottK> However you could repack it with a ~repack version so the debian one would be higher
[17:56] <nixternal> true
[17:56]  * Quintasan|Szel wonders why ssh doesnt work for him
[17:56] <nixternal> now, what to call that file, LICENSE.base.trig work for you?
[17:57] <ScottK> Sure.  Be sure to explain where you got the file and why it's there
[17:57] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stefanlsd/dpkg-gensymbols
[17:57] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[17:58] <ScottK> That's all I have.
[17:59] <Quintasan|Szel> JontheEchidna: gah, I forgot to add myself to wiki, mind adding me as Dep-wait for kdeplasma-addons and kdenetwork?
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan|Szel: sure
[17:59] <Quintasan|Szel> uploading kdegames will be a pita :/
[17:59] <Quintasan|Szel> JontheEchidna: thanks
[18:02]  * ScottK is off for several hours now.
[18:04] <Daskreech> Tonio_: skreech2@gmail.com
[18:05] <Daskreech> Tonio_: Unless you want to go -offtopic
[18:06] <Tonio_> Daskreech: I get the email :)
[18:09] <Daskreech> Tonio_: Ok As long as you didn't have a canned response sitting waiting for this inquiry :-D
[18:09] <rgreening> Quintasan|Szel: why will games be a pita?
[18:09] <Daskreech> ./convincegovt.sh | mail
[18:10] <Tonio_> Daskreech: nah ;)
[18:10] <Tonio_> Daskreech: this'll be my opinion
[18:11] <Daskreech> Opinions are as welcome as patches
[18:12] <Quintasan|Szel> rgreening: 60 mbs on my connection will take at least 1 hour
[18:12] <Quintasan|Szel> upload ofc
[18:13] <nixternal> ScottK: actually, there needs to be 2 extra licenses added...the rdf*.trig are W3C licensed
[18:13] <nixternal> This folder contains external ontologies that are not developed by the OSCAF project
[18:13] <nixternal> but are necessary as basis for others.
[18:14] <nixternal> glad I didn't look at the README last night...how I missed that one is beyond me
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> [12:32:49] <notmart> dimsuz: and beware there is another bic change in qhash since the rc so gigantic total rebuild again, yay :p
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> dammit
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> I mean, damn. No warning this time, even.
[18:17] <rgreening> Quintasan|Szel: but I have kdegames
[18:18] <rgreening> so Quintasan|Szel needn't worry about uploading it :)
[18:18] <Quintasan|Szel> rgreening: oh, nice :D
[18:19] <rgreening> :)
[18:19]  * rgreening haz fast interwebz
[18:19] <rgreening> 100Mbps dedicated
[18:20] <Quintasan|Szel> :)
[18:23] <Sput> JontheEchidna: I think dimsuz screwed up
[18:23] <Sput> there was no bic
 wait, i had a slightly older one than the rc
 whooops :)
[18:24] <Sput> he got it wrong :)
[18:24] <Sput> prolly using kde-qt 4.6-stable-patched
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> oh, whew
[19:43] <Daskreech> Great
[19:43] <Daskreech>  How do I edit a PDF?
[19:43] <Daskreech>  I need to delete some pages
[19:44] <Blizzz> Daskreech: split it with pdftk und put the correct pages together (also with pdftk)
[19:44] <Daskreech> thanks
[19:44] <Blizzz> yw
[19:45] <Daskreech> Wow that's a fat little app
[19:46] <Blizzz> yeah :)
[19:46] <txwikinger> I think pdfsam can do something like that too
[19:46] <Riddell> pdfedit works, shame about the UI
[19:47]  * nixternal kicks our old ass packagekit packages
[19:47] <Daskreech> nixternal kicks Old people
[19:47] <Daskreech> where packages act as a people representative
[19:47] <nixternal> I would never kick ScottK ;)
[19:52] <Quintasan|Szel> Lex79: how's Qt?
[19:53] <Lex79> built on amd64
[19:54] <Quintasan|Szel> Lex79: thanks, will get to building asap
[20:00] <mcas> rgreening: ping
[20:04] <rgreening> pong mcas
[20:05] <mcas> hi rgreening
[20:05] <mcas> i saw that you rebuild the filesharing module
[20:05] <mcas> can i help you with this?
[20:07] <Daskreech> Blizzz: Worked wonderfully thanks
[20:07] <Blizzz> Daskreech: my pleasure
[20:09] <rgreening> mcas: feel free to look at the spec and offer up suggestions if you like...
[20:09] <rgreening> mcas: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-lucid-file-sharing and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidFileSharing
[20:10] <rgreening> mcas: I have a few of the details worked out, as you will see from reading...
[20:11] <mcas> ok i'll look at it and see what i can add
[20:13] <rgreening> cool
[20:13] <mcas> do you have a link for me how i can build an development enviroment?
[20:24] <rgreening> mcas: hmm... well for the kde stuff it's a few setps
[20:24] <rgreening> mcas: I'd start with installing the normal build stuff (like build-essential, etc...)
[20:25] <Riddell> sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase
[20:25] <rgreening> then you need to apt-get source the packages involved and you also want to install the build deps
[20:25] <rgreening> ya, what Riddell said
[20:32] <mcas> ok i'll try that
[20:47] <mcas> i have to go, i try the build stuff tomorrow
[20:47] <mcas> thx for the hints so far
[20:47] <mcas> bye
[20:55] <Riddell> sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase
[22:05] <Blizzz> is kde 4.3.4 news being published this night (~central europe)? since, kubuntu-de.org would publish a german version as soon, but i am kinda tired and gotta get to work tomorrow :)
[22:19] <Daskreech> Blizzz: Probably not grab some rest
[22:20] <Blizzz> Daskreech: alright, ty!
[22:21] <Daskreech> Riddell: When the 4.3.4 announcement goes live please e-mail Blizzz at the same time. Thanks!
[22:21] <Blizzz> :)
[22:31] <Blizzz> so, gn8
[23:16] <Riddell> ta da kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4
[23:16] <Riddell> Lex79: ^^
[23:18] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: are you able to test that?
[23:19] <Riddell> everyone hug Lex79!
[23:22] <txwikinger> Riddell: test the ppa?
[23:25] <Lex79> Riddell: thank you :)
[23:49] <ulysses__> hungarian version of kde 4.3.4 announcement is ready!
[23:57] <nixternal> oh, if only there were a KSideBar class