[00:01] <dibs> sweet, I have terminal but am wondering why KRandR is so lame? it shows my montiors but they can't be parted
[00:01] <chuno> jj
[00:37] <memenode> hmmmm
[00:37] <memenode> Did anything happen to the xorg updates?
[00:39] <memenode> my graphics suddenly went haywire and I ran an upgrade and got xorg down.. so I'm wondering if there was a bug that accidentally came down in a prior updated, started causing issues and then was fixed and sent again..
[00:39] <memenode> my menus are black
[00:40]  * memenode hears echo.. can't wait.. gonna reboot again to see if xorg updates fixed anything..
[01:10] <aybabtu> Good 3v3ning
[01:21] <jimmy51_home> howdy.  i want to do some quick and dirty 3d CAD.  what app should i use?
[01:32] <coreybain1> hi i just installed kubuntu 9.10 and when insterting my seirra wireless 3g modem into the computer, the attachment box starts in knetworkmanager but once i have inserted all the connection information i cant press the profile i made. i call it telstra and it is displayed but i cant click it
[01:32] <coreybain1> any help plz
[01:50] <SayNoToPerl> hi i want to make kkkubuntu
[01:53] <shicmap> hello all, is there a way to turn off the backlight of my macbook pro keyboard? it's eating up my battery life
[02:06] <dare_> hi everyone
[02:07] <dare_> What do I need to install and how in order to play aac files in quodlibet?
[02:25] <osanllyer> ??
[02:27] <johnb850> Hey ,,,
[02:27] <dare_> yes>
[02:28] <johnb850> I dare what is that a dare ? from dare ?
[02:28] <jazzy_d> from Dragon
[02:29] <johnb850> / just being a goof-ball ,,,
[02:29] <johnb850> , I really need to fix my colors...
[02:30] <jazzy_d> so What do I need to install in order to my qoudlibet plays aac files?
[02:31] <johnb850> hmm, h.264 ? is aac as var of h.264, not sure,,,
[02:31] <johnb850> scan the mplayer docs page...
[02:31] <johnb850> url is ... 5 sec
[02:31] <johnb850> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/index.html
[02:32] <johnb850> when reading up on mplayer allways use the Hu pages...
[02:32] <johnb850> reading man page, PTB ...
[02:33] <johnb850> man page has info abt aac,,,
[02:33] <johnb850>  libfaac
[02:33] <johnb850>                       Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) - using FAAC
[02:33] <johnb850>  
[02:33] <FloodBotK1> johnb850: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <johnb850> Da da da...
[02:34] <jazzy_d> I need decoder
[02:34] <johnb850> mplayer docs sec , 2.5.2, x264, lists out how to add in the aac codex..
[02:35] <jazzy_d> it wil be faad2 if youre speking correctly
[02:35] <johnb850> Und, 2.5.3, AAAC , etc,
[02:35] <osanllyer> i cannot play movies wapped in mkv format with mplay or totem
[02:35] <johnb850> I do not have a aac file to "try" with, else would do it then post the steps..
[02:36] <johnb850> ha, Vas is = "mkv" ?
[02:36] <jazzy_d> try vlc or smplayer
[02:36] <johnb850> vlc does make hard stuff easy...
[02:40] <johnb850> ...
[02:41] <johnb850> any one know of a good kde INN reader?
[02:41] <osanllyer> i had tried vlc. the voice began tremulous, and the picture got a serious delayl.
[02:42] <johnb850> often a codec, when that happens,
[02:43] <johnb850> me ? I often run mplayer from a command line in a shell, this lets me see the errror, then I track down the error,
[02:43] <osanllyer> o~
[02:45] <johnb850> I ponder if vlc on comamnd line can offer that some type of insite,,,
[02:45] <johnb850> install vlc just now...
[02:45] <johnb850> "had" to rebuild my laptop, thus am missing some of my fav tools...
[02:45] <johnb850> ps: yes jb is a shell text nut...
[02:46] <osanllyer> ……
[02:46] <johnb850> ppss, johnb850 is the jb ...
[02:46] <osanllyer> i really cannot catch u
[02:46] <johnb850> type -a [
[02:46] <johnb850> Woot...
[02:47] <johnb850> the name johnb850 has a 2nd voice in his head, and his name is JB, thus we are the name "person" ,
[02:48] <johnb850> some thing to try , open a terminal,
[02:48] <johnb850> run "vlc myvid.file"
[02:48] <osanllyer> oh
[02:49] <johnb850> vlc should offer some insite when it it hit errors...
[02:49] <osanllyer> ok i'll try it later
[02:49] <johnb850> cool; glad to help ,,
[02:49] <johnb850> ps: my email johnb850@cox.net ...
[02:50] <osanllyer> i just used linux, and there're so many diffrences compaed to win
[02:50] <osanllyer> ok very thank u
[02:50] <johnb850> what is ur native lang ?
[02:50] <johnb850> jb is usa...
[02:50] <osanllyer> chinese
[02:50] <osanllyer> haha my english is poor
[02:51] <johnb850> Oh cool; your english is very good ...
[02:51] <osanllyer> orz, sarcasm?
[02:52] <johnb850> No no, is good,
[02:52] <osanllyer> ……
[02:52] <osanllyer> thanks
[02:52] <johnb850> brb,,, getting some water...
[03:01] <tacosbellos> needing help with an ativa digital photo frame, anybody own one in here?
[03:03] <johnb850> Ohhhh
[03:04] <johnb850> a) did you run , 'dmesg' from a term win, to see what kernel messages the device is offering, while connected... guessing it is a usb device...
[03:05] <johnb850> tips, try clearing the messages then connect the device, like "sudo dmesg -c", then you can connect it, then run dmesg,
[03:05] <johnb850> all of this is from a "Konsole" win.. the text shell, ///
[03:07] <johnb850> that may offer some details about the device... from that we should be able to find out if we have a driver or device issue, is it a starting point to find out...
[03:12] <osanllyer> Irc popular in USA? why there's almost no one here?
[03:12] <johnb850> facebook,
[03:13] <johnb850> other, fancy dancy www stuff, IRC will allways be around, just not as big is it once was in usa ...
[03:13] <osanllyer> oh i cannot visit facebook from china, it has been blocked
[03:13] <johnb850> trust me, its the one good thing the "STASI" did for all of us...
[03:14] <osanllyer> STASI? what it stands for
[03:14] <osanllyer> hehe
[03:14] <johnb850> the name of the East German State Police...
[03:15] <osanllyer> ……
[03:16] <osanllyer> I thought it was chinese gov's policy.
[03:17] <johnb850> II use the name of the East German Police as a joke, to shadow the policy of a govermant...
[03:17] <osanllyer> they build a firewall called GFW to filter any infomation they dont want the people know
[03:18] <johnb850> good movie on the topic, "the lives of others" , , ,
[03:18] <osanllyer> ……
[03:19] <osanllyer> today's AIDS' Day ha
[03:20] <johnb850> "see other window"
[03:38] <lon-lon> hi
[03:58] <snarkster> dolphin just crashed trying to get the debug info to make a report. what is the debug info called
[04:04] <snarkster> I have "?? () from /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 in my crash report assistance. Need the dbg info for libdbus-1.so.3
[04:06] <snarkster> is anyone talking in here or is it just a waste of my time to come in here?
[04:07] <gorgonzola> snarkster: u got a question, then ask, and wait for someone to pick it up
[04:07] <gorgonzola> else, no, not much social talk around these parts, i'm 'ffraid
[04:07] <snarkster> I have asked twice already. :)
[04:07] <gorgonzola> sorry, was just coming back
[04:08] <gorgonzola> then you'll have to be patient :)
[04:08] <snarkster> understood.
[04:09] <gorgonzola> ok, your issue seems above my head.. but it seems that you need debug symbols for that lib.
[04:09] <snarkster> right cant locate them in apt-cache search
[04:11] <gorgonzola> libdbus-glib-1-2-dbg? don;t know if Glib is what you need. i don;t know shit about debugging :)
[04:11] <gorgonzola> oh. 1-2... nevermind
[04:11] <snarkster> i have that installed, Im not good at debugging either but I want to help
[04:12] <snarkster> im getting "This crash information is probably not useful
[04:12] <gorgonzola> did you try submitting the bug report anyway?
[04:13] <snarkster> yah Ima go ahead and submit
[04:13] <gorgonzola> sometimes launchpad finds other bug reports that have already been submitted.
[04:13] <gorgonzola> ok, good luck. gotta go now.
[04:27] <Guest77661> hello anyone there
[04:30] <sparrowg> yes?
[04:30] <ganesh_> how to edit boot menu
[04:35] <sparrowg> which version?
[04:35] <sparrowg> 9.10?
[04:35] <ganesh_> yes
[04:36] <ganesh_> sparrowg: i can't see menu.lst file like that in 9.04
[04:40] <sparrowg> the file is called grub.cfg
[04:41] <sparrowg> but you're not suppot that file
[04:41] <sparrowg> i'm trying to figure out how to edit the file
[04:43] <bigdaddy> can anyone please help me mount XP on my kubuntu installation using dmraid?
[04:59] <selina> Hi
[05:32] <sidracer> I'm new at using this irc app
[05:34] <sidracer> I have a problem with kubuntu but it's unusual... not sure who to ask? :(
[05:34] <devious> ..
[05:35] <sidracer> who is in charge of this site and other kubuntu sites?
[05:37] <darkdelusions> sidracer: if you have a question its just best to ask
[05:37] <darkdelusions> and once of us will attemp to steer you in the right direction
[05:38] <sidracer> okay, well, it's bad... something i did...
[05:38] <sidracer> not really a support question but i limited my support sources
[05:40] <sidracer> i had problems with kubuntu and ubuntu before and got too frustrated but it's fine now... I can deal with it... so, I am hoping that this channel will welcome me..
[05:40] <sidracer> dark: are you reading me?   I don't want to bother anyone if they are busy
[05:40] <darkdelusions> just ask away
[05:41] <sidracer> I did have one support question but I'll save it for now... it's towards my laptop but i don't have it with me right here
[05:41] <sidracer> dark:  I used kubuntu forums but i got banned because of my behavior... i just wanted to apologize but i don't think they accepted it...
[05:42] <judgen> is there a way to reassign mouse buttons?
[05:42] <sidracer> my support question is how to enable 3d effects with older hardware... but, i'll look into it later... i edited xorg but i am not sure what to put there
[05:46] <sidracer> is it not a good question?   I just wondered if this is the only other support source
[05:46] <darkdelusions> Google is generally my support source
[05:47] <sidracer> dark:  yes, that's a good one
[05:47] <sidracer> but, if the solution is from the forums... i can't read it now
[05:48] <darkdelusions> Pretty much anything ubuntu will work on kubuntu as well so there for i normall just search for Issue ubuntu
[05:48] <darkdelusions> or if its a kubuntu specific problem I generally ask here
[05:48] <judgen> is there a way to get qt4 apps to look as all my qt3 ones?
[05:49] <sidracer> dark:  okay, that's a good point and idea... thank you
[05:50] <sidracer> dark:  do you know of any issues in ubuntu/kubuntu regarding older ati hardware... if you know about mesa and dri issues?   I tried kubuntu and ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop but i get lockups
[05:50] <sidracer> or if you know if any x or xorg or ati guys come on here any time?
[05:51] <darkdelusions> sidracer: not really I am a Nvidia guy so i dont deal much ati stuff or pay attention to ATI stuff really
[05:51] <sidracer> i did google and followed some supposed solutions in the ubuntu forums but when i tried to use some of their suggestions, they didn't work
[05:52] <sidracer> dark:  I prefer nvidia too but it's my laptop and i'm stuck with the ati card in there :)
[05:53] <darkdelusions> have you tried one of the old cd 's like 9.04 and see if the same thing happens
[05:53] <darkdelusions> 9.10 seems to be quirky
[05:53] <darkdelusions> that sound like a silly answer
[05:54] <darkdelusions> but I have to do it before in the past
[05:55] <darkdelusions> sidracer: when you say lock ups does X just lock up on your or does it hard lock the system?
[05:58] <sidracer> hard locks the system
[05:58] <sidracer> yes, 9.04 works fine
[05:58] <sidracer> what does that mean?
[05:59] <sidracer> i tried on 9.04 and i can use 3d effects... i think... been a while since i tried but i remember it works when i try live cd
[05:59] <sidracer> by lock up, too, i mean the mouse freezes....  the cursor does that spin and then freezes
[06:00] <sidracer> keyboard and mouse becomes non-responsive
[06:00] <sidracer> this is after enabling 3d and if i try firefox... soon after I click the icon or select it from menu... things lock up
[06:00] <sidracer> 2d worls fome
[06:00] <sidracer> oops, works fine
[06:01] <sidracer> and of course, 3d effects is enabled on live cd as default
[06:01] <sidracer> and open source radeon driver is in the kernel as default so it's loaded.... installed...
[06:02] <sidracer> and there is no default xorg.conf anymore ...well, not in 9.10.... i don't understand it all but something about HAL implementation?
[06:05] <darkdelusions> sidracer:  tbh i wish i could help ya on that one
[06:07] <TuxLove> Hello
[06:10] <judgen> sidracer: i still use a custom xorg... since it seems xorg messes up the aspect ratio of the screen if i dont.
[06:16] <sidracer> dark: no prob... the wish is appreciate :)
[06:17] <sidracer> judgen:  yes, I think I would need one, too... but, not sure what should be there
[06:20] <judgen> sidracer: Mostly the same except for the card spcific portions.
[06:20] <judgen> sid: what hardware do you have, and how does the problem manifest itself?
[06:24] <sidracer> judgen:  mobility radeon 9000 card... i guess the other name is the series, RV250
[06:24] <sidracer> it's old... I know....
[06:27] <judgen> So you are using the Opensource drivers i assume?
[06:27] <judgen> as the fglrx driver from AMD does not support that old cards any more.
[06:28] <judgen> Whats the problem with the xorg.conf?
[06:29] <sidracer> yes, you assume correctly
[06:29] <sidracer> there is nothing in xorg.conf?   or if i look at it, there is not much there
[06:30] <sidracer> i'm confused because even when googling and trying to figure out what should be there...
[06:30] <judgen> does xorg start for you or are you stuck in CLI?
[06:30] <sidracer> there is so many intangibles or variations...
[06:30] <sidracer> it depends... are you talking about starting up with 3d or 2d?
[06:30] <judgen> either.
[06:31] <sidracer> with 3d , it will start but i can't run anything... i have tried an experiment with the live cd...
[06:31] <judgen> cant run?
[06:31] <sidracer> first, i tried firefox... but it locks up
[06:31] <sidracer> then i tried synaptic and when i tried to stretch the window, it locks up
[06:32] <sidracer> can't run because entire computer locks up... freezes
[06:33] <judgen> ill tell you what to write in your xorg in private chat so i dont flood the channel.
[06:33] <sidracer> judgen: thanks
[06:33] <maco> you could just pastebin it..
[06:33] <judgen> maco: i dont have a login to the pastebin.nl service.
[06:33] <maco> paste.ubuntu.com
[06:33] <maco> no login required
[06:34] <maco> tbh, ive never heard of a pastebin requiring a lorgin
[06:34] <maco> *login
[06:34] <sidracer> i'll try anything... just curious of what to try
[06:41] <Mountainman> .
[06:41] <judgen> sidracer: now ive written you a tutorial.
[06:41] <judgen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332148/
[06:42] <judgen> sidracer: hope it works for ye.
[06:43] <judgen> if you use a international keyboard layout you might want to add that too, but well get to that once it works.
[06:46] <judgen> feels like ive left something out... but i aint sure.
[06:54] <VirtualExplorer> hi there
[06:58] <judgen> howdy VirtualExplorer
[07:00] <VirtualExplorer> i just got facebook games to work on ubuntu... but the flash doesnt save the cookies/cache i mean once loaded, if i log out... it shld load quickly
[07:00] <VirtualExplorer> but it doesnt
[07:00] <VirtualExplorer> it takes same time as if it is loading for the first time
[07:01] <judgen> hmm i dont use facebook for games, so i wouldnt know anything about it.
[07:01] <judgen> what browser?
[07:01] <VirtualExplorer> firefox 3.5.5
[07:01] <judgen> have you tried with konueror?
[07:01] <VirtualExplorer> i just updated firefox  via update manager
[07:02] <VirtualExplorer> on the old firefox it wasnt even working.. but when i updated it atleast worked
[07:03] <judgen> are you using flash of gnash?
[07:03] <judgen> or*
[07:04] <judgen> also it might be worth checking if you have more than one flashplugin.so in your system.
[07:05] <VirtualExplorer> adobe flash m using
[07:05] <VirtualExplorer> the latest version
[07:07] <judgen> altest from repos or the beta from adobe?
[07:09] <VirtualExplorer> i got it from synaptic package manager
[08:42] <darkdelusions> wow finger print scanners are kinda lame under linux :)
[08:46] <tsimpson> remove the words "under linux" and, yes, you're right :)
[09:15] <judgen> Anyone know why compiz uses 100%cpu all the time in kubuntu for me.
[09:21] <bagustian> halooooo
[09:23] <EagleScreen> halo bagustian
[09:23] <bagustian> :D
[09:47] <ct529> hi everybody! I have discovered that none of the SIP phone available have direct support for pulse audio server (including Twinkle and Ekiga)
[09:48] <ct529> what do you think?
[09:50] <ct529> I do realise that OSS and Alsa sound is redirected through pulse audio, but would it not be better to have direct output to pulse audio?
[09:50] <maco> sure
[09:50] <maco> but if the software doesnt support PA output....*shrug*
[09:52] <ct529> maco: I wonder how complex is to make at least one SIP phone compliant with pulse audio .... I think we are a bit weak on SIP on Kubuntu .... I have tested most of them including things like qutecom and their audio performance is not brilliant on kubuntu ....
[09:52] <maco> kubuntu doesnt include pulse
[09:52] <maco> nor does xubuntu
[09:52] <maco> just ubuntu
[09:54] <ct529> maco: I have kubuntu, and it does definitively include pulse!
[09:54] <maco> it definitely does not
[09:54] <maco> pulse is in the repositories since they are shared with ubuntu
[09:55] <maco> you must've installed something that depends on it
[09:55] <ct529> maco: well, it does on mine .... I installed 9.10 64 bit and it came with pulseaudio included and active .... which actually the only thing that works with all applications really
[09:55] <ct529> maco: so what does kubuntu uses if not pulse audio?
[09:56] <maco> pulseaudio isnt on the kubuntu cd
[09:56] <maco> just goes straight from phonon to alsa
[09:56] <maco> if you install pulseaudio, it goes phonon -> pulseaudio -> alsa
[09:56] <ct529> maco: I installed from the Internet with the usual procedure .... but had previously installed from the DVD and the pulse audio was there (I have several machines with kubuntu)
[09:56] <maco> ah yeah there was a bug in the 9.04 DVD
[09:57] <maco> kubuntu's not *supposed* to have pulseaudio though
[09:57] <ct529> maco: I do not even see phonon in the list of multimedia servers
[09:57] <maco> its not a server
[09:57] <maco> you dont *need* a sound server
[09:57] <maco> you just need the alsa-lib api
[09:57] <maco> phonon is an abstraction above that for gstreamer & xine
[09:58] <maco> and if you want to use a sound server, you can shove pulseaudio between phonon and alsa-lib
[09:58] <ct529> maco: a bug in 904 that installed the whole pulse audio thing?
[09:58] <maco> but phonon's purpose is just to make working with gstreamer & xine easy
[09:58] <maco> yes, pulseaudio being installed by the 9.04 DVD was a bug
[10:00] <ct529> maco: I do not understand why you do not want to have an audio server
[10:00] <maco> some people dont think "i can play music over the network!" matters
[10:01] <maco> pulseaudio makes what would be black magic wtih pure alsalib easier...but for basic usage...no difference
[10:03] <ct529> maco: well, on 9.10 64 bit, if I remove pulseaudio I can tell you kde audio applications do not work well at all
[10:03] <maco> oh i like pulseaudio
[10:04] <maco> but the other kubuntu developers tell me it breaks every other kde user's system
[10:04] <maco> i guess you and i live in the same parallel dimension
[10:06] <ct529> maco: :D if I do remove it and channel everything phonon > alsa some kde audio applications do not work well (for example twinkle audio works really poorly)
[10:15] <BANSAL> hi everybody...
[10:15] <ghostcube> lo
[10:16] <BANSAL> I have ubuntu 9.10 live cd. when i try to install it live it shows  6-7h for installation.
[10:16] <BANSAL> can anybody tell me what's problem if any??
[10:17] <ct529> BANSAL: what is your hardware?
[10:18] <BANSAL> it's 80 GB HD and 512 MB RAM
[10:19] <m4rtin> BANSAL: could the disc potentially be scratched (causing a great deal of CD re-reading)
[10:19] <BANSAL> m4rtin: I have just got my new ordered disk...
[10:20] <ct529> BANSAL: what about processor? disk interface?
[10:20] <BANSAL>  processor is intel dual core
[10:21] <ct529> BANSAL: the RAM is not very large, but it does not sound as if there is any good structural reason for being so slow ....
[10:21] <ct529> BANSAL: are you sure the live cd is ok and the hard disk is ok?
[10:22] <BANSAL> ct529: i think so because i have just the new cd
[10:22] <BANSAL> and hard drive is perfectly ok...
[10:23] <ct529> BANSAL: is the hard disk very full?
[10:23] <BANSAL> no it has enough space ...
[10:24] <BANSAL> around 7-8 gb
[10:26] <ct529> BANSAL: could you please post your partitioning and status of the partitions?
[10:27] <BANSAL> sure..
[10:27] <BANSAL> it's 10gb for C
[10:27] <BANSAL> and 21.5 for rest four
[10:27] <BANSAL> i mean 21.5 each
[10:28] <ct529> so windows on C?
[10:28] <BANSAL> yeah
[10:29] <ct529> and the remaining 3 (not 4) are 21.5 each?
[10:29] <BANSAL> oohhh..m sry...
[10:29] <BANSAL> remaining 3
[10:29] <ct529> what the state of occupation of the partitions?
[10:30] <ct529> and how much did you assign to the swap?
[10:31] <BANSAL> well m trying to install it in F and there is still 15 Gb free...
[10:32] <ct529> it should really be enough .... what about the swap?
[10:32] <BANSAL> what's that swap??
[10:33] <Barbadillo> hi all
[10:33] <Barbadillo> i have problems with audio and skype
[10:33] <Barbadillo> after upgrade to karmic
[10:36] <Barbadillo> anyone can do skype calls with karmic and pulseaudio?
[10:36] <ct529> BANSAL: the swap is an area of the disk you allocate to be used as extension of the memory for when the memory is filled by your applications .... ar eyou using manual partitioning or automatic partitioning?
[10:36] <ct529> Barbadillo: yes it works here
[10:36] <ct529> Barbadillo: open your multimedia server, and look what is in it
[10:36] <BANSAL> m using partition manually...
[10:38] <Barbadillo> ct529: i have "pulseaudio", "intel ich5" and "playback/recording through the pulseaudio server"
[10:38] <ct529> Barbadillo: in what order
[10:38] <Barbadillo> ct529: pulseaudio first
[10:38] <ct529> Barbadillo: then create a swap partition of at least 1024 MB
[10:39] <Barbadillo> this is for BANSAL
[10:39] <ct529> Barbadillo: put them in this order: playback/recording through the pulseaudio server, pulseaudio, intel ich5 and try again
[10:39] <ct529> Barbadillo: sorry, I meant BANSAL then create a swap partition of at least 1024 MB
[10:40] <BANSAL> ct529: ok ...then..
[10:40] <ct529> BANSAL: then try again and let me know ....
[10:41] <BANSAL> okk...i just try...
[10:41] <Barbadillo> ct529: no way, skype say "audio problems"
[10:42] <ct529> Barbadillo: have you tested the audio output in the multimedia sound server widget?
[10:43] <Barbadillo> ct529: yes it works, any application is ok, just skype problems
[10:44] <Barbadillo> ct529: what have you got in the skype audio devices options?
[10:45] <ct529> Barbadillo: pulse audio server local
[10:45] <ct529> Barbadillo: which is what you should actually select if you have pulse audio installed :)
[10:47] <Barbadillo> ct529: no way, i can't hear skype test call...
[10:48] <ct529> Barbadillo: what version of skype?
[10:49] <Barbadillo> ct529: 2.0.0.72-1, the kubuntu package
[10:51] <ct529> Barbadillo: that is the old version who had some problems .... install the new one .... 2.1.047
[10:51] <ct529> Barbadillo: I seem to remember I had some difficulties as well with that version
[10:52] <Barbadillo> ct529: where did you get the new one? which repository?
[10:52] <ct529> Barbadillo: I do not know .... I normally get it directly from skype .... but I imgine there is a copy in medibuntu
[10:52] <aomegax> hi
[10:53] <aomegax> i have a problem at boot...
[10:53] <BANSAL> ct529: hey thanks dear...
[10:53] <BANSAL> it's done this time...
[10:53] <BANSAL> :)
[10:53] <aomegax> after selecting kernel 2.6.31-15 i have initramfs problem
[10:54] <aomegax> my root device isn't recognized
[10:54] <ct529> BANSAL: because the memory was not too large, it need somewhere where to work on :)
[10:54] <aomegax> so it is shown busybox
[10:54] <BANSAL> ct529: yeah might be...
[10:54] <ct529> BANSAL: I imaginw really, because I never had the problem before :)
[10:55] <BANSAL> well can i know something about u personally..
[10:55] <BANSAL> ct529:
[10:56] <ct529> BANSAL: ?
[10:56] <BANSAL> ct529: yeah...
[10:56]  * ct529 holds onto the privacy of my data ....
[11:01] <aomegax> I have mounted my distro with live cd
[11:01] <aomegax> I had reinstalled kernel and so I was started
[11:01] <aomegax> at rebooting the same problem
[11:01] <aomegax> so I have done the same procedure
[11:02] <aomegax> but nothing!
[11:02] <aomegax> how must I solve?
[11:02] <Barbadillo> ct529: thanks, now i can hear the test voice but can't hear my own
[11:04] <ct529> Barbadillo: what did you select in option?
[11:04] <Barbadillo> ct529: pulse audio server local
[11:04] <ct529> Barbadillo: for everything?
[11:04] <Barbadillo> yes
[11:04] <ct529> Barbadillo: Did you check the mixer? is your capture line and you mic properly selected?
[11:05] <Barbadillo> ct529: yes my mic is "capture selected"
[11:07] <ct529> Barbadillo: Mux level?
[11:08] <Barbadillo> ct529: what's mux level?
[11:08] <ct529> Open your mixer
[11:09] <Barbadillo> opened
[11:09] <ct529> don't you have a mux level?
[11:09] <Barbadillo> no
[11:09] <ct529> what is the input source?
[11:09] <aomegax> does anybody know how to write uuid on partition?
[11:10] <doktoreas> Hello folks..I just moved from ubuntu to kubuntu, but the dialog when saving files it's still the gnome one
[11:10] <Barbadillo> ct529: a mic
[11:10] <ct529> Barbadillo: a mic or the mic?
[11:10] <ct529> Barbadillo: is it internal or external?
[11:11] <Barbadillo> ct529: is external, the headset micorphone and was working before karmic
[11:12] <ct529> Barbadillo: what option do you have in input sources
[11:13] <Barbadillo> ct529: i don't have an "input source" option
[11:14] <mmo|> Sound does not seem to work on vlc on my kubuntu? Anyone know what could be the problem. It seems it works SOMETIMES. But very rarely...
[11:14] <ct529> Barbadillo: that is very unlikely .... go to settings and make all the important flags active
[11:19] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[11:19] <vandenoever> are there any qt 4.6.0 packages for jaunty yet?
[11:21] <sidracer> hello, is maco or darkdelusions reading this?
[11:23] <sidracer> mmoj: sound works for other applications but not vlc?
[11:23] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[11:27] <Barbadillo> ct529: thanks for your help, i found the capture volume that was zero level, now i can hear my message
[11:27] <mmo|> Sound does not seem to work on vlc on my kubuntu? Anyone know what could be the problem. It seems it works SOMETIMES. But very rarely...
[11:27] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[11:28] <sidracer> mmoj: when you say it works SOMETIMES, what do you mean
[11:28] <Barbadillo> mmo|: vlc works on my kubuntu
[11:28] <sidracer> mmoj: randomly works or you get it to work for a while and then it stops working?
[11:29] <sidracer> does the sound work for other applications?
[11:29] <sidracer> paulie:  sorry, i don't know... I don't change my wallpaper
[11:31] <sidracer> mmoj: only thing I could think of is that audio codecs for your vlc got corrupted or something.... make sure you have audio codecs installed or change the plugins
[11:31] <sidracer> make sure sound is not muted, too
[11:39] <mmo|> sidracer: it seems random the way it works. I am not doing anything to make it work. It just sometimes does!
[11:51] <Barbadillo> mmo|: it depends on the file maybe
[11:54] <mmo|> Barbadillo: no, all files have no sound :-(
[11:58] <Barbadillo> mmo|: with mplayer can you hear them?
[12:02] <Nikitta> hi everyone
[12:04] <Nikitta> I've installed a package using "tar xvzf" command. I've just noticed that this package exists in the repositories, so I was wondering which command would allow me to delete the package before I re-install it through the repos
[12:04] <sidracer> mmoj:  you could try this "check the "use S/PDIF when available" box under the audio settings section of preferences"
[12:04] <sidracer> someone in ubuntu forums was having problems with his sound in vlc and reported a solution as that
[12:06] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[12:07] <lovre> hi all. I seem to have a problem. I cant update with KPackageKit, it says: "Failed to fetch ,,, Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)"  I dont understand why its trying to connect to localhost? I think it might have something to do with me trying to install tinyproxy, firehol and dansguarding the other day. But i have purged all of them. Nevertheless, it seems as if i am myselfs proxy or something....
[12:07] <lovre>  Any ideas about this??
[12:08] <sidracer> Nikitta:  I think it might be 'sudo apt-get remove' and then type in the package name
[12:09] <lovre> Nikitta: well, if you unpacked it as archive, you can simply delete it manually.
[12:09] <Nikitta> sidracer: I belive "apt-get remove" will only remove packages installed by the repositories wouldn't it?
[12:09] <EagleScreen> hello
[12:09] <EagleScreen> i need some help
[12:10] <lovre> !ask
[12:10] <sidracer> Nikitta:  yeah, you could be right
[12:10] <lovre> EagleScreen: ^
[12:10] <EagleScreen> i must to debug a KDE apps which crash at KDE logout
[12:10] <Nikitta> lovre: Ok, the tar function only unpacks right? to "install" the programm there should be some more commands like "make" am I right?
[12:10] <lovre> EagleScreen: look at the logs?
[12:10] <EagleScreen> therefore, i need to start it from a tty console
[12:11] <lovre> Nikitta: yes, you are right, tar just unpacks the archive, and nothing is "installed" to be said. To install you have to have an install script, or a deb package, or something like that...
[12:12] <Nikitta> lovre: ok, great, thank you
[12:12] <EagleScreen> I remember that I can run a X application from a tty console, if I indicate which X session it uses, but i can not remember the syntax
[12:12] <lovre> Nikitta: no problem
[12:15] <sidracer> Nikitta:   I think you use 'sudo rm...' then to delete it
[12:16] <Nikitta> sidracer: yes, right. Thank you for your help
[12:16] <sidracer> Nikitta:  you're welcome...I'm not really helpful but still trying ;)
[12:17] <sidracer> Eaglescreen:  what are you trying to run?
[12:17] <EagleScreen> Kgmailnotifier
[12:18] <EagleScreen> I try to obtain a backtrace
[12:18] <sidracer> are you using a shell or you want to run it from a terminal console?
[12:20] <marincho> Zdr
[12:21] <EagleScreen> sidracer: i need to run it from tty because it crash at KDE logout
[12:21] <marincho> I need help for sharing kubuntu with windows
[12:22] <doktoreas> hello..anyone knows why kio_trash brings CPU to 99% at random?
[12:22] <marincho> Someone from Bulgaria?
[12:23] <marincho> help me
[12:37] <TheSkyNet> hi all
[12:38] <TheSkyNet> how do i look at the contens of the cd i looked in meda/cdrom
[12:40] <jacek> Welcome
[12:44] <TheSkyNet> will it be because its on my sata cabel insted of ide
[12:44] <martin____> hi
[12:50] <hsanders> Can anyone help to solve a igoogle problem in firefox 3.5.5?
[12:54] <marincho> I need help for sharing kubuntu with windows
[13:11] <Slash[GnR]> hi... i just installed kubuntu 9.10 and i cant get any sound through the headphones jack, though the speaker jack works fine... i unmuted everything and set the levels to high but still no luck... what could it be?
[13:25] <SeekerNL> is there a program where u can easy add subtitles to a existing dvd?
[13:44] <ubuntu__> hey all, looking for help with Huawei E620 USB modem, it gets recognised when I first plug it in, but then it dissappears from network manager. Can anyone give me a clue?
[14:12] <julien_> francais ?
[14:15] <benny__> Hallo, wie zum Geier kann ich einen benutzerdefinierten anwendungsstarter im panel erstellen?
[14:16] <benny__> Ich will einfach ein binary aus meinem home-Ordner starten
[14:17] <marincho> Hi, i need help for connect kubuntu pc with windows xp notebook
[14:17] <benny__> Hello, how do I create a custom app-starter in my panel. I want to start an application that is stored in my home-folde
[14:18] <benny__> kde 4.3
[14:21] <lowbtry> hey , is here anyone whos hosting CS 1.6 servers ? because i need some help ...
[14:22] <chisel_> good morning everyone.
[14:24] <chisel_> i can not for the life of me get screensavers to come up. all googles/searches/research is coming up with no results. Please, i need definitive answers! using 9.10
[14:27] <Barbadillo> what do you use to scan documents?
[14:28] <chisel_> i don't know
[14:28] <chisel_> i'm not ubuntu saavy, i depend on the glorious community from (k)ubuntu
[14:29] <Pici> I know kooka used to exist for scanning, but it doesnt seem to be present in Karmic
[14:32] <chisel_> how do i get my screensavers working? specifically electricsheep. None works.
[14:36] <chisel_> oh c'mon ppl!! 308 users, and nobody can help?
[14:36] <Vroomfondle> you might have more luck if you specify exactly how they "don't work"
[14:36] <Vroomfondle> i.e. if there are any error messages or anything
[14:38] <julien_> salut
[14:38] <chisel_> no errors, just don't work. don't work means just exactly that. lets not over analyze. this is a common problem with karmic, but i'll be tarred and feathered if i could find a solution.
[14:38] <chisel_> salut julien. ca va?
[14:39] <julien_> salut chisel :) ca va et toi , c'est francais ici ?
[14:39] <chisel_> non, englais ici
[14:40] <julien_> a tu es anglais et tu parles francais
[14:40] <chisel_> ouais, je parles francais. j'ai apprendu en ecole
[14:41] <julien_> j'ai appris, apprendu lol
[14:41] <chisel_> lol
[14:41] <julien_> ;) c'est marrant
[14:41] <julien_> je parle tres mal anglais moi
[14:42] <chisel_> pourquoi? ecq tu es francaise? ou canadienne?
[14:42] <Growlithe> Guys, English only
[14:42] <julien_> francais, je vis a Paris
[14:43] <chisel_> la ville des lumieres!
[14:43] <julien_> lol oui
[14:43] <chisel_> sorry just tryin to help someone since i'm strikin out
[14:44] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: well, do you mean that the screensaver won't load at all (even when you preview it) or do you mean that it doesn't trigger after the set period of time?
[14:44] <chisel_> both
[14:45] <chisel_> i managed to learn how to get the screensavers into the list, all the settings indicate all is well with the universe, yet, testing doesn't trigger, nor do they trigger at teh set time
[14:46] <chisel_> i've downloaded all the kscreensaver stuff, ALL
[14:48] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: try running from command-line?
[14:49] <Vroomfondle> they're ".kss" files, and should be in your path. For instance, asciiquarium is kdeasciiquarium.kss
[14:49] <chisel_> i don't know the command to do that.
[14:50] <Vroomfondle> just open a terminal and type "kdeasciiquarium.kss" then press enter
[14:50] <Vroomfondle> or the name of some other screensaver file
[14:50] <chisel_> k, i'll try that now. back in a flash.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:51] <chisel_> results: Mplayer popped up and did nothing
[14:51] <chisel_> i typed in electricsheep
[14:52] <Vroomfondle> that's weird
[14:53] <Vroomfondle> *mplayer* popped up O.o
[14:54] <chisel_> kdeforums has alot of ppl asking for help with this, and i'll be danged if i could find a solution. lotsa ppl chiming in with something to say, but not being helpful.
[14:54] <Vroomfondle> try "electricsheep --mplayer 0"
[14:55] <chisel_> scott@scott-desktop:~$ electricsheep --mplayer 0
[14:55] <chisel_> bad option: --mplayer, try --help
[14:57] <Vroomfondle> odd. That option works on my PC.
[14:57] <Growlithe> I don't know, I never use a screensaver, I just have the screen go blank after awhile.
[15:00] <chisel_> i have issues with my movie players too since my upgrade to karmic. perhaps y'all could help with that instead?
[15:01] <chisel_> none of my movie players will play in fullscreen, nor let me scale the windows without spreading the movie all over my desktop, whilst the inside of the window is black
[15:01]  * Gintulis is away: Gone away for now
[15:01] <chisel_> i can only view movies in a 4"x5" window since upgrade
[15:02]  * Gintulis is back.
[15:02] <tsimpson> !away > Gintulis
[15:07] <chisel_> surely, out of 300+ ppl, someone has advice
[15:08] <Vroomfondle> there are probably less than 5 people actually paying attention to the channel at any one time (hell, chances are least 150 people don't even have their IRC clients open at the moment) ;)
[15:08] <Vroomfondle> sounds like a graphics driver issue though
[15:08] <Vroomfondle> what card?
[15:08] <chisel_> this is an upgrade issue, all was fine prior to upgrade
[15:08] <Vroomfondle> I wonder if the kwin compositing stuff isn't happy
[15:09] <Vroomfondle> yes, but the upgrade will have upgraded graphics drivers and kwin
[15:09] <chisel_> i've even removed compiz
[15:09] <Vroomfondle> well that'll make no difference - KDE doesn't use compiz
[15:09] <chisel_> lol that explains why it never worked!
[15:09] <Vroomfondle> :)
[15:10] <Vroomfondle> kwin has its own in-built compositing stuff
[15:10] <Vroomfondle> try this in a terminal:                glxinfo | grep -i dri
[15:10] <chisel_> nothing at all came up
[15:11] <Vroomfondle> right, then DRI is not enabled. This is generally required for things like video scaling and desktop effect compositing
[15:11] <Vroomfondle> it's usually enabeld by default if the graphics driver supports it
[15:11] <chisel_> ok! now we're getting somewhere!
[15:12] <Vroomfondle> what graphics chipset do you have, and are you using standard open-source drivers or the manufacturer's driver?
[15:12] <Vroomfondle> (the former is default)
[15:12] <chisel_> let me find out
[15:14] <chisel_> nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 96) {recommended]
[15:15] <chisel_> thatz all Hardware Drivers will tell me
[15:15] <chisel_> i don't know where else to look
[15:15] <Vroomfondle> hmm
[15:15] <chisel_> i'll check with Ubuntu Tweak
[15:15] <Vroomfondle> I think that's the NVidia manfuacturer driver, which is in theory the one you want to use in order to get DRI support
[15:16] <Vroomfondle> (otherwise known as the "restricted hardware driver")
[15:16] <Vroomfondle> I wonder if there's a regression bug in it in Karmic which is causing it to not like your graphics card
[15:18] <chisel_> i suspect that is not the case. i say that cuz of all the ppl in the forums with way better cards having the exact same issues
[15:19] <chisel_> of course i assume that with very little actual knowledge to go on
[15:21] <chisel_> tell me what DRI is please
[15:21] <Vroomfondle> Direct Rendering Infrastructure
[15:21] <Vroomfondle> basically, it's the thing which allows applications to make use of your graphics acceleration
[15:21] <chisel_> is there an app that handles it? in which i can check settings?
[15:22] <Vroomfondle> well, there used to be a configuration file but that's no longer used. If you check /var/log/xorg.0.log and search for "DRI" you may find something
[15:22] <chisel_> how about nvidia X server settings?
[15:22] <Vroomfondle> that's where the window system logs its messages, including graphics-driver-related ones
[15:23] <Vroomfondle> I don't think the nvidia-settings window shows it
[15:23] <Vroomfondle> at least, it doesn't seem to on mine
[15:23] <chisel_> i shall check, just to be sure
[15:24] <Vroomfondle> ah
[15:24] <Vroomfondle> it's under OpenGL/GLX Information
[15:24] <Vroomfondle> mine says "Direct Rendering: Yes" at the top.
[15:24] <Vroomfondle> (this is in nvidia-settings)
[15:25] <chisel_> kk lemme fire it up again, i just closed it
[15:25] <chisel_> i have it
[15:26] <Vroomfondle> it's on? hrm
[15:27] <Vroomfondle> that is quite odd. Incidentally, what graphics card do you have? You see there are two nvidia drivers available, each supporting different cards
[15:27] <Vroomfondle> it's unlikely that you have the wrong driver if it worked before, but it's worth checking just incase the upgrade process installed the wrong one
[15:28] <chisel_> geforce2 mx/mx 400
[15:28] <chisel_> i know, its crusty
[15:28] <Vroomfondle> I see. The 96 driver is correct, then.
[15:31] <chisel_> how bout under x server xvideo settings ---sync to Vblank. i remember seeing vblank mentioned in my research.
[15:31] <chisel_> in my case its currently un-checked
[15:32] <Vroomfondle> hrm
[15:32] <Vroomfondle> well, try it
[15:32] <Vroomfondle> can't hurt
[15:32] <chisel_> k i did, and now will test a video
[15:33] <chisel_> nope
[15:33] <Vroomfondle> a bit of googling seems to suggest that the 96.43 driver (which you have) is potentially a bit incompatible with the version of xorg (the "x window system" server which provides all the graphics)
[15:34] <Vroomfondle> there's some talk of NVidia providing an updated driver to work with the new xorg, but I can't find any confirmation as to whether that's happened
[15:35] <bmunger> anyone know why jabber on kopete disconnects every 5 or 10 minutes for me?
[15:35] <bmunger> It's not the network and its not the server
[15:35] <chisel_> is there any chance to adjust xorg to become compatible? i konw nothing of xorg
[15:36] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: no, not really. xorg is a very important bit of software (without it, you'd have no desktop/windows), and downgrading generally isn't an option because so many other bits of the system depend on it.
[15:37] <chisel_> how bout settings within my video players?
[15:38] <Vroomfondle> well, you want them to use either XV or GL for output in order to use video accelerationf eatures & scale videos properly, etc. - you could play around in their settings dialogs
[15:38] <Vroomfondle> I suspect they're currently trying to use XV, which is best in theory, but GL would be good enough if it'll work for you
[15:40] <chisel_> i currently use dragonplayer the most. is there a distictly better option? i've tried a number of players, all with the same results. and i would prefer to limit myself to one player
[15:40] <chisel_> every developer is biased towards their own progam. and so are the ppl who use them
[15:41] <chisel_> i hear good things about xine and kaffeine. but i'm a little confuse about back-ends and front ends
[15:42] <Tm_T> chisel_: I believe Kaffeine uses same what Dragonplayer does these days, Phonon that is
[15:43] <chisel_> i was led to believe that kaffeine IS dragonplayer...is that not true any longer?
[15:44] <Tm_T> chisel_: never been that way, two different apps
[15:45] <chisel_> i should say, that the article i read led me to believe that dragonplayer is the new name for kaffeine. i've been known to mis-read stuff before~ wouldn't be surprised if this is the case here
[15:46] <chisel_> yet, we digress...
[15:47] <chisel_> perhaps i should go back to GDM to get things working properly with my retro g-card?
[15:48] <Tm_T> chisel_: retro?
[15:48] <chisel_> old
[15:49] <Tm_T> chisel_: so, what card it is then?
[15:49] <chisel_> geforce2 mx/mx 400
[15:49] <Tm_T> chisel_: hmm, and it fails in kdm?
[15:50] <chisel_> not really. it is glorious in 9.04. but, i recently went to 9.10, and poof, everything is bonkers
[15:51] <Tm_T> chisel_: that's weird
[15:51] <chisel_> indeed
[15:52] <chisel_> how would i go about going back to 9.01 until the next LTS is released? will i have to backup and reformat?
[15:53] <chisel_> i'm not opposed to a clean install, but it'd be a shame to loose all my bookmarks and torrents i haven't watched yet.
[15:54] <Tm_T> chisel_: you can use GDM if that works well
[15:54] <Tm_T> chisel_: I know that KDM isn't always the best one, though I haven't much looked into it lately
[15:56] <chisel_> well lets address going back to jaunty. how would i save all my bookmarks in firefox? is there anychance of saving my torrents without burning to disks?
[15:57] <six6> chisel_: save your home directory
[15:57] <six6> all your personal settings are stored there
[15:57] <chisel_> to disk?
[15:57] <chisel_> CD i mean
[15:57] <six6> depends on how big it is?!
[15:58] <six6> maybe a secnónd partition that will not be formatted
[15:58] <six6> second
[15:59] <chisel_> well i've got 120gb hd, so i think the chances of saving my movies are nil. how bout the bookmarks?
[15:59] <chisel_> i can always watch the movies and then do the reformat
[16:00] <six6> firefox bookmarks are stored in .mozilla in your home dir
[16:00] <six6> why do you want do format at all?
[16:00] <Tm_T> I think there's way to export bookmarks so you can just save them in somewhere
[16:01] <six6> no way arround reinstalling?
[16:02] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[16:03] <Tm_T> subito: depends on why that happens, does it happen every time?
[16:03] <subito> Tm_T: i've just installed it and that's what i get when i click on the icon
[16:04] <chisel_> six6: i haven't decided yet that reformatting is the way to go as yet. but, since all my current problems came from upgrading to 9.10 and failing to find solutions...it just seems logical
[16:04] <Tm_T> subito: ok, have you asked in #kde ?
[16:04] <subito> Tm_T: yes but you answered first :D
[16:04] <six6> ok from the beginning, what problems are there?
[16:04] <Tm_T> subito: ah, indeed
[16:05] <chisel_> six6: ~1: no video scaling/fullscreen on playback. 2: no screensavers will trigger.
[16:06] <six6> does the first one depend on the desktop effects? Did you try to deactivate them?
[16:08] <chisel_> no, the videos will play, but only in a 4x5 window, its won't let me scale or play in fullscreen. i don't believe i have any desktop effects on. i never use em, but i am not sure
[16:08] <subito> no idea for kgmailnotifier?
[16:08] <Tm_T> subito: sorry, no
[16:09] <six6> in "System-Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop effects" you can switch them off
[16:13] <chisel_> k done.
[16:13] <Roasted> every time I log into my windows file server through dolphin, it asks me about 7849894839 times to log in and Im typing the right info in. How can I, you know, get to my files?
[16:13] <chisel_> lets see if that improves things
[16:14] <Roasted> wow now I get access denied
[16:15] <chisel_> six6: eureka!! disabling those effects enabled me to view in full screen and scale! lemme buy you a beer mate!
[16:15] <chisel_> now give me a few mins to see if my screen saver will trigger...keep yer fingers crossed
[16:16] <six6> ;) np, glad to help
[16:16] <Tm_T> chisel_: I'm actually amazed they were enabled in the first place
[16:17] <chisel_> so am i given that i never use em. i just did a test on the screen saver, and POW! Came right up! i can't believe it was that simple!
[16:17] <six6> so no more thinking about how to save your settings/movies ;)
[16:18] <Tm_T> chisel_: good news then (:
[16:18] <chisel_> roger that!
[16:18] <six6> what graphics adapter do you have? nvidia or ati?
[16:18] <chisel_> nvidia g-card. don't know what an adapter is
[16:18] <Vroomfondle> adapter = card
[16:18] <six6> means the same in this case
[16:18] <Vroomfondle> two words for the same thing
[16:18] <chisel_> ah
[16:19] <chisel_> you young folks and all yer 'puter lingo....lol
[16:19] <Vroomfondle> six6: chisel_ is using the old legacy 96 driver with a Geforce MX. At a guess, something in the new kwin or xorg doesn't like it.
[16:19] <Tm_T> six6: chisel_ has old MX/MX400
[16:20] <chisel_> ok someone tell me about kwin. what is it?
[16:20] <six6> aah, played arround a few weeks ago with a p3 600MHz and MX400, couldn't get the driver to work properly. Now it runs without acceleration, but its just a surf-station...
[16:20] <Vroomfondle> KWin is the piece of software that's responsible for organising windows on-screen. It's part of KDE.
[16:21] <Mitschel> xorg doesnt support the legacy drivers anymore, i think since version 1.5, had the same problem
[16:21] <six6> also called "Window Manager" because of it's job ;)
[16:21] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[16:22] <chisel_> six6 or anyone else. should i look into a new g-card, how can i be sure to buy a new one that will be compatible with this clunky macheen?
[16:23] <six6> How does the rest of the machine look like? Processor, RAM...
[16:23] <chisel_> i have an older sony viao
[16:23] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: you can still find AGP Geforce6/7-series cards on the internet
[16:23] <six6> uhm notebook?
[16:23] <chisel_> desktop
[16:24] <Vroomfondle> unfortunately last time I looked the AGP cards were no cheaper than the PCI-Express equivalents (low production numbers, I guess)
[16:24] <chisel_> pentium 4 cpu 2.2o ghz, 2gigs ram
[16:24] <chisel_> its an ati card
[16:25] <Vroomfondle> a geforce is an nvidia card
[16:25] <chisel_> ok maybe i'm confused again then
[16:25] <chisel_> its the card with the little hook where the lock goes
[16:25] <Vroomfondle> you mean AGP
[16:25] <chisel_> ah ok
[16:26] <Vroomfondle> "ATI" are/were a manufacturer of video cards (radeons)
[16:26] <chisel_> ooooh...my bad
[16:26] <six6> ok the computer could handle a faster card in my opinion
[16:26] <Vroomfondle> Definitely.
[16:26] <six6> but maybe someone else can help you find e mathing one, i'm not that informed atm
[16:26] <chisel_> what do you recommend i get? something on the cheap
[16:27] <Vroomfondle> you won't get much choice
[16:27] <Vroomfondle> AGP is very out-of-date
[16:27] <Vroomfondle> 95% of cards on sale today are PCI-Express
[16:27] <Tm_T> Vroomfondle: well, out-of-date in market, not in use (:
[16:28] <Vroomfondle> just look around dabs, scan, ebuyer, amazon (or your local equivalent) and see what you can find that'll fit in an AGP slot
[16:29] <chisel_> AGP 4X, 32 MB
[16:29] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: where do you live? (what country)
[16:29] <chisel_> i'm in oregon, usa
[16:30] <six6> something of the geforce 6xxx series maybe?
[16:30] <Vroomfondle> yeah, a geforce 6-series AGP would do nicely
[16:30] <Vroomfondle> and would be supported by the newer nvidia drivers
[16:30] <Vroomfondle> you can get 7-series AGP cards too
[16:31] <Vroomfondle> chisel_: http://www.amazon.com/AGP-Graphics-Cards-Computer-Add-Ons/b/ref=amb_link_6488902_25?ie=UTF8&node=290433&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1HVHRHAQE7SD7E5CNX55&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=501911171&pf_rd_i=193870011
[16:32] <Vroomfondle> hrm, hang on though
[16:32] <adac> I cannot play neither add nmp3 files to the amarok playlist. Any ideas what might be wrong?
[16:32] <six6> i have to go, see you later guys
[16:32] <chisel_> dig it. i'm really stoked! i've been workin on these issues for a week now....glad its outta my hair
[16:33] <chisel_> thanks for the help six6 and vroomfondle
[16:33] <Vroomfondle> no problem
[16:33] <six6> np
[16:33] <chisel_> +karma to both of ya
[16:34] <adac> however I can add and play ogg files. I'm very confused
[16:35] <Vroomfondle> adac: perhaps you need to install an mp3 codec? I think there's a bot factoid about it
[16:35] <Vroomfondle> !mp3
[16:36] <Vroomfondle> mp3 counts as a "restricted format"
[16:36] <adac> Vroomfondle, Well I added all codecs free and non free. I can play the files with other players though. But not with amarok
[16:37] <adac> Vroomfondle, strange thing is that I can't even add them to the playlist
[16:37] <Vroomfondle> tbh I think amarok's just a bit rubbish at the moment. I've given up using it on my laptop because I can't add *anything* to the playlists.
[16:37] <sporedi> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ----------(next line)---E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/-----(last line)-----E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:38] <adac> Vroomfondle, You had the same problem?
[16:38] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: what's user's it running under?
[16:38] <Vroomfondle> adac: similar. I gave up very quickly and just started using VLC instead.
[16:38] <sporedi> this is my 1st server installtion
[16:38] <sporedi> normal user asweel as i try with root
[16:38] <adac> Vroomfondle, I see. Well at least I'm not the only one then!
[16:38] <sporedi> sudo -i
[16:39] <Vroomfondle> you'll need to be root for it. What command are you running exactly?
[16:39] <sporedi> u r also facing same problem ?
[16:40] <sporedi> after server installtion is there any post installtion command to be perforam ?
[16:40] <boa__> good evening
[16:41] <Vroomfondle> I've not had a problem, no. You shouldn't need to do anything post-installation as such.
[16:41] <mdk66> Good evening =)
[16:41] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: what command are you using, exactly?
[16:42] <sporedi> i tryed sudo apt-get install gnome
[16:42] <sporedi> i tryed sudo apt-get install uprade
[16:42] <sporedi> i tryed sudo apt-get install update
[16:42] <Vroomfondle> hmm. That should work.
[16:42] <ubuntu_> ok
[16:43] <sporedi> i am running on intel c2d and iso was amd64 ,is that is a problem ?
[16:43] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: do "ls -alt /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/cache/apt/" and put the results in a pastebin so I can see them
[16:43] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: no, that should work fine. Core2Duo is AMD64-compatible.
[16:43] <Laeborg> how do I allow a user to use wget?
[16:44] <sporedi> there are 3 files and 1 folder
[16:44] <ubuntu_> i want to install live messenger in ubuntu
[16:44] <ubuntu_> any one help me please
[16:44] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: need to know the permissions (the bits that look like d-wx---rwx)
[16:45] <Vroomfondle> and also the owner
[16:45] <sporedi> for all files
[16:46] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: for all those files, yes. Put the output of the command in to pastebin.com and then give me the URL
[16:47] <sporedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332444/
[16:47] <ubuntu_> anny one answer me please
[16:47] <ubuntu_> !
[16:47] <Vroomfondle> ubuntu_: I don't think you can install it. You could try Wine.
[16:47] <Vroomfondle> or a non-MS client
[16:48] <Vroomfondle> sporedi: those permissions are fine. Hmm.
[16:48] <Vroomfondle> so you do "sudo apt-get update"?
[16:48] <Vroomfondle> do you have any other apt clients (e.g. synaptic, aptitude) running at the same time?
[16:49] <sporedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332446/
[16:50] <sporedi> Vroomfondle: can i send u pm
[16:50] <Vroomfondle> if you like
[16:50] <Vroomfondle> I don't have long though - I am going home soon
[16:59] <nsujir> hi
[17:07] <sporedi> when i run sudo apt-get install gnome or any package i am getting error with ----Reading state information... Done
[17:07] <sporedi> E: Couldn't find package update
[17:11] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[17:29] <juan__> i've installed kwin from a ubuntu minimal install, some apps work others fail with a bus error, konsole/konversation are fine but kwin and quassel fail :S
[17:30] <Boohbah> hello
[17:31] <Boohbah> what is the proper way to start kde with ssh-agent? i would like to enter my passphrase only once
[17:32] <Boohbah> ssh-askpass !
[17:50] <D-coy> m4v, lady, where r u? :*
[17:57] <rafasmart> anyone noticed that kdenetwork-filesharing tab on kde4(karmic) doesn't work on folders at Desktop?(only inside dolphin, for instance)
[17:57] <JediMaster> Anyone know why amarok seems to have forgotten all my track details and doesn't even try to read any ID3 (or similar info)? I've checked the same m4a track in VLC and it reads the track info.
[17:58] <Mamarok> JediMaster: which version of Amarok?
[17:59] <JediMaster> Mamarok, hi there, it's 2.2.1 (kde 4.3.3)
[18:00] <Mamarok> JediMaster: do a full rescan, then restart Amarok, there was a database upgrade, but the trigger did not work
[18:00] <colo> hello, hi can i install spanish lang in kubuntu ?
[18:00] <JediMaster> Mamarok, also, whenever I try and drag a song from the playlist on the right to the saved playlists it adds the wrong song every time
[18:00] <colo> i installed the metapackage kubuntu-desktop, but i dont know how to install the spanish lang
[18:00] <Mamarok> JediMaster: as I said, do a full rescan, the restart it first
[18:00] <JediMaster> Mamarok, how do you run a full rescan? tools->update collection does nothing
[18:00] <colo> someone knows which is the package name ?
[18:00] <Mamarok> colo: second
[18:01] <colo> thanks Mamarok
[18:01] <Mamarok> colo: its language-pack-kde-es-base
[18:02] <Mamarok> that should drag in all the rest
[18:02] <colo> thanks a lot Mamarok
[18:02] <Mamarok> you are welcome
[18:02] <Mamarok> JediMaster: in the settings -> Collection -> Rescan
[18:02] <Mamarok> rescan, not update
[18:02] <chisel__> this may not be the place to ask, but i'll try anyway. is there a tool like stumbleupon for konqueror?
[18:03] <JediMaster> Mamarok, thanks got it "Fully Rescan Collection"
[18:03] <Mamarok> chisel__: you can add the stumbleupon engine to the existing ones AFAIK
[18:03] <Mamarok> JediMaster: just don't forget to restart Amarok after that
[18:04] <chisel__> mamarok: yer gonna have to dumb it down for me...i'm a kde noob
[18:04] <JediMaster> Mamarok, will do, I think it may not help that the library is on a NFS mount and Amarok may have opened before it had mounted
[18:04] <rafasmart> rgreening: is you that was working on samba sharing? you can confirm why this tab doesn't show up at Desktop?
[18:05] <rgreening> rafasmart: samba sharing is utterly broken, and hence not enabled for a while now.
[18:06] <rgreening> rafasmart: for lucid, we plan to fix tihs, by implementing samba usershare and ripping everything else out
[18:06] <JediMaster> Mamarok, that's sorted the playlist out, thanks, going to try adding a song
[18:06] <Mamarok> JediMaster: indeed, you should have the collection available if you want to scan it
[18:06] <antonio_> ciao
[18:07] <rgreening> rafasmart: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidFileSharing
[18:08] <JediMaster> Mamarok, nope, it still adds the wrong song to the saved playlist when I drag it across
[18:08] <rafasmart> rgreening: but for folders, it works fine, right?
[18:08] <JediMaster> but at least I have artist/album names now =)
[18:08] <Mamarok> chisel__: I don't use Stumbleupon, but since it's just another search engine, you should be able to add it in the settings
[18:09] <JediMaster> Mamarok, it's weird, if I drag the same song, every single time the same wrong song is added to the saved playlist, and if I try the next song down, another wrong song is added
[18:09] <Mamarok> chisel__: in Settings -> Web Browser -> Web shortcuts
[18:09] <Mamarok> JediMaster: tried a double click?
[18:09] <Mamarok> instead of dragging
[18:10] <JediMaster> Mamarok, that plays the song
[18:10] <chisel__> thanks mamarok, i'll poke around with tht and see if it pops up. could you suggest something else that does the same thing? just in case mind you
[18:10] <memenode> pulseaudio is BS
[18:11] <memenode> just another layer of problems, because Linux didn't have enough complexity and half assed systems as it is
[18:11] <rafasmart> rgreening: at least, with kdenetwork-filesharing I got a folder to be shared by samba, but I noticed that when I double click on a folder at desktop this tab doesn't appear
[18:12] <rgreening> rafasmart: the Share tab should still be there... that is part of kdelibs. If it's missing, you have something broken...
[18:13] <rafasmart> rgreening: but this tab appear on same folder inside dolphin
[18:13] <rgreening> oh... afaik, it's only in dolphin...
[18:14] <rgreening> where were you doing this outside dolphin?
[18:14] <juan__> http://pastebin.com/d31f078e0 < every time i try and run amarok
[18:14] <juan__> any ideas what the cause of the problem is?
[18:15] <Mamarok> chisel__: since I don't use StumbleUpon it's hard to tell, you might have a look at the settings there
[18:15] <JediMaster> Mamarok, it's weird, no matter what I do it always adds the wrong song to the saved playlist
[18:15] <Mamarok> JediMaster: strange, and everything is tagged correctly?
[18:15] <JediMaster> it's like it's a pointer pointing to the wrong index in a list of songs
[18:15] <rgreening> rafasmart: actually, it's part of the file properties dialog, so anything which shows the file properties dialog will show the share tab
[18:16] <JediMaster> or as if there's an offset
[18:16] <Mamarok> JediMaster: do you have some filtering active whe  you do this in the Collection Browser?
[18:16] <rafasmart> rgreening: i know users that manipulates folders on desktop often then on dolphin
[18:16] <JediMaster> Mamarok, when I double click the songs on the right hand panel it plays the correct song and they have the right details
[18:16] <JediMaster> Mamarok, at the moment, yes, let me try without
[18:17] <Mamarok> JediMaster: could be a bug in the SQL query used
[18:17] <JediMaster> Mamarok, same with or without a filter
[18:17] <Mamarok> hm, not the query then.
[18:17] <rgreening> rafasmart: are you talking about desktop in a KDE or Gnome session? Desktop for KDE uses Folder-view applet, and accessing file properties there works.
[18:17] <JediMaster> Mamarok, the playlists are stored in sqlite?
[18:18] <JediMaster> Mamarok, looks like an interface bug
[18:18] <Mamarok> JediMaster: care filing a bug on http://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=amarok ?
[18:18] <chisel__> mamarok: it just lets you hit a button to browse various sites on the web pertaining to interests. one may vote up or down on a site. one may also subscribe to members' "thumb ups" its really just a way to browse the interweb filtered thru interests
[18:18] <JediMaster> sure, will do
[18:18] <Mamarok> JediMaster: no, default in 2.x is mysql embedded
[18:18] <JediMaster> embedded mysql? interesting, didn't know it existed =)
[18:19] <Mamarok> chisel__: I really can't help here, maybe they offer a plugin?
[18:19] <rafasmart> rgreening: yeah, its KDE. on folder view applet
[18:19] <Mamarok> JediMaster: yep, and you alos have the option to use an exernal MySQL server
[18:19] <Mamarok> also*
[18:20] <rgreening> rafasmart: so, right click and get properties, just like any other folder
[18:20] <rgreening> the share tab will show
[18:20] <chisel__> mamarok: no worries mate, i'll poke around and see. thanks for your attention anyhow. Happy Holidays all.
[18:20] <JediMaster> Mamarok, ohh funky, run one on my router/testing server downstairs, that'd be handy =)
[18:21]  * JediMaster gets scared as kde.org knows his email address and he can't remember registering or logging in
[18:22] <rgreening> rafasmart: even if you do this, it's still busted. Installing the kdebase-filesharing + samba + changing the filelistset perl script to SUID root may get you there, but no guarantees on what will or will not work or how it may corrupt/alter your smb.conf file.. it's unmaintained upstream.
[18:22] <Mamarok> JediMaster: well, you obviously did, b.k.o is not omniscient :)
[18:22] <JediMaster> Mamarok, yeah, but doesn't make it any less freaky
[18:22] <rgreening> rafasmart: which is why we are ripping it our for lucid, if all goes well.
[18:25] <Mamarok> JediMaster: you must have registred at some point on the bug tracker, maybe to follow a report or such
[18:26] <telecentro> OOOOOI
[18:26] <telecentro> hellooooo
[18:29] <rafasmart> rgreening: a screenshot of what i'm talking: http://bit.ly/88LUej
[18:30] <rgreening> rafasmart: it looks like you are trying to share '/' which is not possible. it has to be a directory under /home/<your user id here>
[18:32] <rafasmart> rgreening: no, its the same folder(testesmb on /home/rafael/Área de Trabalho), but accessed for diferent ways
[18:33] <rgreening> rafasmart: if you can describe exactly how you got this, I may be able to see if I can duplicate it here...
[18:35] <takis> how can i change firefox's menu size in kubuntu?
[18:35] <rafasmart> rgreening: I'll try. 1st sorry because it's l10n. Área de Trabalho stands for "Desktop". on left,  properties folder by folderview. on right properties by dolphin
[18:36] <rgreening> rafasmart: it could be related to localization issues in the way the filelistset perlscript works... maybe try with english locale or on a regular folder name like /home/rafael/test
[18:37] <rafasmart> rgreening: i'll do that right now
[18:37] <rgreening> k
[18:38] <rgreening> rafasmart: I would suggest filing a bug, but I expect the only fix that will happen is completing the new spec.
[18:47] <bradpitt> hi.. does anybody here have a problem with VLC playing .iso file? everytime i play .iso vlc crashed. and then i try with other video player like totem, mplayer and gnome mplayer but they can only play dvd menu and i can't click on play movie or sth. i'm not sure what's causing this problem but vlc is ok until i add kubuntu backports ppa to upgrade amarok. surely it's only my foolish judgement to say ppa for kubuntu backports causing this problem, but as
[18:47] <bradpitt>  long as i know vlc is using qt. i'm on ubuntu karmic. thanks
[18:51] <dawid> jest ktoś z polski?
[18:52] <bradpitt> !pl | dawid
[18:58] <ubuntu> hi all, could you pl. help how to restore grub on to my sda?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, which grub , drub2 or legacy ?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> err grub2
[19:00] <ubuntu> BluesKaj not sure i am in karmic, and there is no "grub" command
[19:00] <rafael_> rgreening: i got the same behavior: http://yfrog.com/casharetabp
[19:00] <BluesKaj> are you dual booting with windows ?
[19:01] <ubuntu> yes, I just installed it and restored my home partition (fstab editing done)
[19:02] <rgreening> rafael_: bizarre. I can definately say I cannot duplicate that here. What kde version you running?
[19:03] <rgreening> rafasmart: ^
[19:03] <ubuntu> BluesKaj or do i need to reinstall? I have moved my root partition
[19:04] <rafasmart> rgreening: kdenetwork-filesharing deb package is 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu4
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, I had the same problem , but due to my laziness I had to reinstall to / ..it will save your configuration files and some packages/apps , but any installed from source will need to be reinstalled
[19:07] <rgreening> rafasmart: I apologize, I just got it to do the exact same thing...
[19:07] <rgreening> lol
[19:08] <rgreening> rafasmart: try changing the view from Desktop, to some other folder (specify the folder)
[19:08] <rgreening> rafasmart: It appears ot be specific to when folderview is set as a Desktop
[19:08] <rgreening> and only then...
[19:10] <rgreening> rafasmart: actually, if you select show a place (second option) and choose Desktop, it behaves correctly.
[19:10] <rgreening> strange indeed.
[19:10] <rgreening> That, I would file a bug on...
[19:12] <Karansac> Hi. I'm using twinview mode from nvidia-settings in order to have a dual-screen under kubuntu 9.10. The thing is that when I unplugg the secondary screen from my laptop the mouse can stil go out of the main sceen
[19:13] <rafasmart> rgreening: thanks!
[19:14] <rgreening> rafasmart: I believe the issue is that the Home folder is actually a Desktop file, and it will not provide "share" for the Home.desktop shortcut.
[19:14] <rgreening> maybe intentional... dunno
[19:17] <rafasmart> rgreening: yeah, perhaps its due to different location/ relative path. did you remember that, on default folder view settings, appears on general tab Location: / (desktop)
[19:17] <prince_of_bodom> how do i remove the timer for shutdown/restart etc in kubuntu?
[19:18] <rgreening> the location there is actually just for indicating it's a desktop file I guess...
[19:19] <rafasmart> rgreening: now, selecting 'show a place', appear like on dolphin, absolute path, and everthing works
[19:20] <rgreening> ya
[19:20] <rgreening> cool
[19:27] <rafasmart> rgreening: i'm little confused if its kde/kubuntu, and kdenetwork-filesharing/another component? when you filled, could you please let me know (link)?
[19:27] <noctule> prince of bodom: Go into system settings -> advanced -> session manager
[19:27] <maco> its broken
[19:28] <maco> the kde samba config thingy has been broken for ages
[19:28] <noctule> prince of bodom: then untick confirm logout
[19:28] <bodom> prince_of_bodom: -.-
[19:28] <maco> (at least in kubuntu...)
[19:29] <maco> (dunno about other distros)
[19:29] <ubuntu> BluesKaj ok, i will se what i can do
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, there might be a better way if you check around ...it was too late for me , had to install windows and it blew away grub
[19:36] <kriss3d> Can anyone tell me why i cant get an IP from the router when using wicd as network manager ?
[19:37] <rgreening> rafasmart: I'm guessing kdelibs is where the support is actually implemented for the properties dialog w/ share
[19:38] <rgreening> well. not guessing.. but it's likely where the desktop piece needs to be implemented to support this...
[19:39] <kriss3d_> Odd.. after three days trying to make my wifi accept WPA-PSK encryption.. now it works
[19:39] <pagore> hi guyz :)
[19:40] <pagore> i need 1 command for my terminal, i want to find out the proces wich use dpkg
[19:40] <pagore> i want to kill this prozess because i cant update
[19:40] <pagore> i get this error
[19:40] <pagore> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:41] <pagore> i know there was 1 prozess, does somebody know? :)
[19:41] <pagore> top is to general, this dont show me the correct one
[19:42] <rafasmart> rgreening: yeah, it my thought, once tab is working when is called, should be 'who/where' calls
[19:43] <kriss3d_> pagore:  oh try sudo apt-get install
[19:43] <kriss3d_> that worked for me
[19:45] <pagore> kriss3d_: wow that was easy xD
[19:45] <kriss3d_> did it work for you as well then ?
[19:45] <mofux> is kde4.4 alpha 1 being released today?
[19:46] <pagore> because after i tipped that in konsole says i have to use "sudo dpkg --configure -a" than i made this and now i can update :D
[19:46] <pagore> ok ty bye :)
[19:46] <kriss3d_> yeah.. i had exact same problem yesterday as well.. couldnt update anything
[19:48] <kriss3d_> Hi.. does anyone know if a program that will let me convert a .flv file into a mp3 ? (i need to capture the sound from a youtube flash file
[19:49] <andrew__> Heya guys, wondered if you could help me with something?
[19:50] <kriss3d_> andrew__:  shoot
[19:50] <fjoffily> alguem fala portugues:
[19:51] <rafasmart> fjoffily: nao aqui // not here :)
[19:52] <andrew__> mmkay, well i lost was dual booting, then i broke windows so now im solely on kubuntu 8.10. I have gotten my wireless network usb card installed using ndiswrapper but every so often it disconnects and refuses to reconnect, at this point i have to reboot to get internet back, any suggestions?
[19:52] <Pici> fjoffily: #ubuntu-br
[19:52] <fjoffily> where:
[19:52] <fjoffily> ok
[19:52] <kriss3d_> andrew__:  thats odd. try doing the ifconfig <wifi> down
[19:53] <kriss3d_> then same but switch down with up
[19:53] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:54] <kriss3d_> Oh god i love my ubuntu so much i want to make love to it
[19:54] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:55] <BluesKaj> tran228, not here pls
[19:55] <andrew__> tried that, it didnt ask for my su password so i dont think the commands worked
[19:56] <andrew__> yep i tried that
[19:56] <andrew__> seemed to work, but im not an extreme fan of bandaids
[19:56] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:57] <Pici> tran228: This is a support channel, please stop posting irrelevent links.
[19:58] <tran228> whats your problem to tell me
[19:58] <tran228> its very easy and take only 30 sec
[19:58] <tran228> just tell me an i leave
[20:00] <andrew__> thats  bloody good song
[20:00] <andrew__> anyway, thanks guys, i'll prob see you soon
[20:00] <kriss3d_> BluesKaj:  it seems that even though i did make a desktop widget to start WoW.. I often lose access to the folder. Looking at the rights through dolphin it tells me i dont even have any rights to view the contents of the folder
[20:00] <kriss3d_> i keep having to set the rights.. somhow it reverts it all the time
[20:01] <BluesKaj> kriss3d_, right click on the folder/ propereties / make exe
[20:01] <kriss3d_> make exe ??
[20:02] <maco> executable
[20:02] <kriss3d_> i can rightclick the folder and view its properties.. there is no make exe tab or button
[20:03] <kriss3d_> right now the rights seems fine.. but usually when i start up wow by starting the desktop button ive made for it.. it blocks me from launching it
[20:03] <BluesKaj> kriss3d_, permissions tab
[20:03] <rafasmart> rgreening: did you filled the bug? because i want to subscribe myself. and thanks one more time
[20:04] <rgreening> you should file the bug rafasmart, as having the person who detected it and with the screenshots :)
[20:05] <kriss3d_> BluesKaj:  ok this is odd.. i just restarted my computer.. and looking at the rights its fine.. but.. when i click the widget to the launcher (which starts up the wow.exe) it shows the launcher.. then clicking play will NOT launch wow.exe but just close the launcher and aparently setting the permissions so i cant access the folder
[20:06] <BluesKaj> kriss3d_, permissions tab ?
[20:06] <kriss3d_> yes
[20:06] <BluesKaj> on the wow folder itself
[20:06] <kriss3d_> yes
[20:06] <kriss3d_> the folder is in my homefolder
[20:07] <kriss3d_> and when just looking at the properties it cant even determine the size of the folder due to not having access to it
[20:07] <barovski> somebody use codeigniter ???
[20:08] <BluesKaj> kriss3d_, you may want to start over , if so follow this : http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/How-to-Setup-World-of-Warcraft-on-Linux.html
[20:08] <kriss3d_> but i can enter the permissions tab and set it so the owner (me) have full access.. then clicking OK.. then into properties again and having it apply that to all subfolders as well
[20:08] <rafasmart> rgreening: sorry, I understand that you would file when you say "<rgreening> strange indeed.  \n That, I would file a bug on..."
[20:08] <kriss3d_> ok ty BluesKaj
[20:10] <rafasmart> rgreening: but I'll do that, like you said, filling on kdelibs, right?
[20:12] <rgreening> The "I would file a bug" was just indicating it was a scenario under which it would be prudent to file a bug. Sometimes I forget the sublte nuances in languate can get misunderstood easily :)
[20:12] <rgreening> cool
[20:12] <rgreening> language ...
[20:12] <rgreening> I cant speel either
[20:12] <rgreening> spell..
[20:12] <rgreening> see
[20:12] <rgreening> haha
[20:12] <FloodBotK2> rgreening: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <rafasmart> ok I get it :D
[20:13] <rgreening> oh my.... I think that's my queue to move onto to other work.
[20:18] <rstob911> ive installed kubuntu and updated all the bug fixes now my wireless internet will not work
[20:19] <rstob911> it sees the wireless networks but will not connect to them and yes ive put in the correct password
[20:40] <bluepuff12> so even though kubuntu 9.10 comes with kde 4.3.2 I can upgrade it to kubuntu 9.10 withkde 4.3.3?
[20:43] <TeLLuS> bluepuff12: yes, but its no longer 9.10 then but it used as a base so it is in some way
[20:43] <bluepuff12> so just installing kde 4.3.3 would be pretty much the same thing?
[20:55] <alexander> does anyone know how to work grass gis?
[21:01] <jhutchins_lt> So how are you supposed to manage the boot menu in grub2?
[21:05] <Guest38366> hi all, tell me a bounch of reason why i sholud choose Kubuntu instead of gnome Ubuntu :)
[21:07] <TeLLuS> Guest38366: If you like it better..
[21:07] <gugu_> becaus it good-looking
[21:19] <nonameNN> is there any ppa with themes for kde?
[21:26] <rocky|raccoon> Hello :> Is there anyone here that's using kdenlive on a regular basis in Karmic? It worked fine for me in 9.04, in 9.10 any usage of the "monitors" causes it to freeze, which pretty much makes it useless for video editing :<
[21:28] <galvarino> hey, kinda in a pinch here, my desktop in jaunty is gone...
[21:28] <galvarino> the computer hangs if I try /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:29] <galvarino> alt F2 works though, mouse is here and all
[21:29] <TeLLuS> galvarino: then do not use /etc/init.d/kdm restart  .. :)
[21:29] <galvarino> tried to remove my .kde folder, didn't do much heh
[21:30] <olegs> hi guys
[21:30] <olegs> anybody knows how to enable bidirectional mode in kmail?
[21:31] <TeLLuS> galvarino: what about using xstart?  same problem?
[21:31] <TeLLuS> galvarino: startx that is..
[21:32] <galvarino> TeLLuS: let me try
[21:33] <galvarino> TeLLuS: sevrer already running
[21:33] <galvarino> server*
[21:34] <TeLLuS> galvarino: Do you get a picture? When doing a normal reboot? kdm login?
[21:35] <galvarino> TeLLuS: black screen with a mouse pointer atfer a while
[21:35] <TeLLuS> galvarino: ok
[21:36] <TeLLuS> galvarino: try run the df command  and check permissions of /tmp
[21:39] <galvarino> TeLLuS: http://pastebin.org/59389 output of permissions on /tmp/
[21:39] <TeLLuS> galvarino: checking that not any file mount is delaying and that it can use /tmp
[21:40] <TeLLuS> galvarino: need to use ls -al  to see permissions of /tmp itself..
[21:40] <galvarino> oh :P
[21:41] <TeLLuS> .
[21:42] <galvarino> drwxrwxrwt   9 root root  4096 2009-12-01 22:32 tmp
[21:43] <TeLLuS> look ok to me
[21:43] <galvarino> want the output for the hidden files inside tmp?
[21:45] <TeLLuS> no.. Running df is not hanging..  Something else then..
[21:48] <TeLLuS> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager  ?
[21:48] <galvarino> TeLLuS: guess I'll come back tomorrow, gotta run :/
[21:48] <galvarino> oh
[21:48] <TeLLuS> ok
[21:48] <galvarino> /usr/bin/kdm
[21:48] <TeLLuS> did it work before?
[21:49] <galvarino> yup
[21:49] <galvarino> rebooted like 3 times today
[21:49] <galvarino> worked 2 first times
[21:49] <kernco> Will Qt 4.6 be in Karmic backports, or should we install from a ppa?
[21:50] <galvarino> anyway gotta scoot... thanks for the hints so far TeLLuS
[21:50] <galvarino> night peeps
[21:50] <TeLLuS> galvarino: another time.. Bye
[22:08] <marcreichelt> hi there
[22:09] <marcreichelt> Amarok 2.2.0 is not able to read in my MP3 collection
[22:10] <marcreichelt> the collection scanner just hangs up at 98%, the CPU load is 100%
[22:12] <BluesKaj> marcreichelt, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:12] <marcreichelt> BluesKaj: already is installed
[22:12] <Benkinooby> i was checking google and all but still i don't know: is dolphin file manger able to du ftp over ssl or tls ?
[22:13] <Benkinooby> or do i need to download a extra ftp manager?
[22:13] <marcreichelt> maybe the collection is too large, right now I am running "amarok --debug" to see what is going on
[22:13] <marcreichelt> it seems to work fine if I copy my collection step by step
[22:14] <BluesKaj> marcreichelt, libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[22:14] <marcreichelt> BluesKaj: it can play the MP3s
[22:15] <marcreichelt> AmaroK just takes a *lot* of time scanning them
[22:15] <bodom> marcreichelt: what DBMS are you using? Is a fresh install or are you upgrading from previous version?
[22:15] <marcreichelt> bodom: fresh install
[22:16] <marcreichelt> it seems to use the internal MySQL DB
[22:16] <BluesKaj> marcreichelt, make sure you don't have the tag option turned on, otherwise a large collection will take forever
[22:16] <gorgonzola> marcreichelt: how many tracks in the collection?
[22:16] <bodom> marcreichelt: I had same issue with debian
[22:16] <bodom> marcreichelt: They fixed it on 2.2.1 but it isn't available on ubuntu by now
[22:17] <marcreichelt> Benkinooby: I think Dolphin should work fine, just klick into the location bar and enter your ftp URL
[22:17] <gorgonzola> marcreichelt for reference, i have over 13k, and it was slow as molases with internal SQL, switched to external mysql server, now it flies.
[22:17] <gorgonzola> that option was ported from 1.4 in 2.2.2, i think.
[22:17] <marcreichelt> BluesKaj: which tag option?
[22:17] <marcreichelt> gorgonzola: ahh, ok
[22:17] <bodom> btw 2.2.0 is quite buggy
[22:18] <bodom> I'm waiting to see lastes release on ubuntu, by now, I just stopped using amarok :\
[22:18] <marcreichelt> I already did this on KDE 3
[22:18] <marcreichelt> bodom: what do you use right now?
[22:18] <marcreichelt> I wanted to use Audacious
[22:19] <BluesKaj> for IDing the songs ..not sure if that is turned on by default
[22:19] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: it works, but the tsl or ssl doesnt kick in
[22:19] <bodom> marcreichelt: nothing, i manually open my files by hand
[22:19] <marcreichelt> maybe enter sftp:// ?
[22:19] <marcreichelt> or ftps:// ?
[22:19] <gorgonzola> marcreichelt aaah, sorry, i'm using 2.2.1 with external mysql. it is available in kubuntu-ppa, i think...
[22:19] <marcreichelt> oh...
[22:19] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: trying...
[22:20] <marcreichelt> Audacious can scan all my MP3 files, but it can't play them with PulseAudio
[22:20] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: this is what i get: 503 Invalid sequence of commands (AUTH SSL/TLS required prior to authentication).
[22:21] <marcreichelt> Benkinooby: hmm, maybe you should use Konqueror then
[22:21] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: i just was wondering if dolphin could manage, what i would like.... looks like i have to go for extra softwaree :(
[22:21] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: thanks for help
[22:21] <marcreichelt> no
[22:22] <marcreichelt> konqueror is installed
[22:22] <Benkinooby> marcreichelt: ah, i see it
[22:22] <marcreichelt> just give it a try, you can skip to extra software (maybe GFTP?) later if it doesn't work
[22:23] <gorgonzola> bodom: you should try the latest version of amarok in the ppa. it is much improved, specially since they restored the external mysql option.
[22:23] <bodom> gorgonzola: I had it, then i migrated from debian to kubuntu and I seen kubuntu still got 2.2.0
[22:24] <marcreichelt> gorgonzola: does external MySQL work with 2.2.0?
[22:25] <bodom> gorgonzola: is there a way to install it on kubuntu?
[22:25] <marcreichelt> bodom: see the latest news on http://www.kubuntu.org/
[22:25] <gorgonzola> marcreichelt: to be honest, i don;t remember. i know it was reintroduced recently, and i'm using the newer from the kubuntu ppa (ie, 2.2.1), so probably it was introduced in 2.2.1. try the version in the ppa
[22:26] <bodom> marcreichelt: I love you :D
[22:26] <gorgonzola> bodom yes. karmic has 2.2.0 by default, but the kubuntu repo has the newer versions of amarok, as well as almost all of kde. a very fine alternative if you need specific features :)
[22:26] <gorgonzola> bodom give me a sec...
[22:27] <marcreichelt> gorgonzola: ok, I think I will upgrade to 2.2.1 and switch to an external MySQL DB :)
[22:27] <gorgonzola> bodom marcreichelt: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main that's the ppa. see for yourself here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.2.1
[22:28] <bodom> marcreichelt: 2.2.1 works like a charm :) 2.2.0 is very buggy
[22:28] <bodom> I'm installing 2.2.1
[22:28] <gorgonzola> you'll love it. i couldn't believe how faster my collection was after the switch. even modifying fields from within amarok's tag editor was almost instantaneous :D
[22:29] <gorgonzola> ok folks, good luck with the amarockin'. gotta go now.
[22:31] <marcreichelt> bye gorgonzola
[22:33] <bodom> bye gorgonzola!
[22:33] <bodom> marcreichelt: can you download the PPA repository key?
[22:33] <bodom> marcreichelt: server times out to me
[22:38] <marcreichelt> bodom: there is a "It works!" Apache message on keyserver.ubuntu.com
[22:38] <marcreichelt> maybe there are working on something right now
[22:39] <marcreichelt> oh, and http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A takes way too long
[22:40] <marcreichelt> bodom: anyway, you can do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade in the Terminal right now and get the key later
[22:40] <bodom> marcreichelt: I don't like to install unsiigned package
[22:41] <bodom> marcreichelt: I'm going to manually import this key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[22:41] <marcreichelt> then wait for the Keyserver ;)
[22:41] <marcreichelt> is it working for you?
[22:42] <zykem> hi guys
[22:42] <bodom> marcreichelt: I copy/pasted the code to a ubuntu.key file then apt-key add /tmp/ubuntu.key, it worked
[22:42] <kriss3d_> Can anyone recommend an easy to use and effective firewall ?
[22:43] <bodom> kriss3d_: guarddog
[22:43] <bodom> zykem: hi
[22:43] <kriss3d_> ty
[22:43] <bodom> kriss3d_: welcome
[22:44] <marcreichelt> so http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A worked for you? Interesting - I don't get a response
[22:44] <marcreichelt> ah, now!
[22:45] <bodom> marcreichelt: there should be some congestion, even downloading packages is pretty slow at only 30kbps
[22:45] <marcreichelt> and now the console method worked again
[22:47] <rstob911> its been slow all day seems they are syncing possibly
[22:53] <marcreichelt> does anyone know why the NetworkManager applet does not connect to my WLAN automatically on startup?
[22:55] <bodom> marcreichelt: have you saved the WPA password?
[22:55] <marcreichelt> bodom: I just found out the checkbox for "Connect automatically" was not selected
[22:55] <marcreichelt> selfowned ;)
[22:55] <bodom> lol
[23:03] <bodom> I'm gonna restart kde, brb
[23:04] <marcreichelt> oh wow, Amarok 2.2.1 parsing all my MP3s in less than 5 seconds!!
[23:04] <marcreichelt> somehow I think the internal DB of AmaroK is really slow, maybe they don't use SQLite the right way
[23:05] <bodom> what's "the right way"?
[23:06] <marcreichelt> bodom: you can execute SQL queries directly, meaning the file is updated every SQL statement, or you can use the commands BEGIN and COMMIT
[23:06] <marcreichelt> this way all changes get written in one step, which is much faster
[23:07] <bodom> marcreichelt: yep, but compared to MySQL is slower anyway
[23:07] <bodom> marcreichelt: 'cuse you can use transaction on mysql too :)
[23:09] <marcreichelt> right
[23:17] <Riddell> KDE SC 4.3.4 is out
[23:18] <bodom> !paste
[23:24] <garrythefish> as i said, not enough real drilling
[23:24] <garrythefish> that's what's the problem with the lesbos at #ubuntu-women
[23:44] <ubuntu> hello