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adiroiban_ds05:30
j1mchi adiroiban and adiroiban_05:38
adiroibanj1mc:  :)05:38
adiroibanhi05:38
j1mcwould you like to talk now?05:38
adiroibanyep05:38
j1mcok... i'm getting another look at the bug report05:39
adiroibanthe idea is just to have a quick chat05:39
j1mcok05:39
adiroibanand see what is the current status and what we can do / help05:39
j1mci'm going to be rebasing the xubuntu docs off of the current ubuntu docs05:39
adiroibani have exported the translations from Launchpad05:39
j1mcso i'll need to get in some big changes before translations should start05:40
adiroibanand now I'm working at creating a script for doing all the transtlation and html generation from a bzr branch05:40
j1mccool. :)05:40
adiroibanj1mc: are you still going to use docbook ?05:40
j1mcyes05:40
adiroibanok. in this case I will create a folder structure similar to ubuntu-docs05:41
adiroibanso that we can share some scripts05:41
j1mccool - do you want to use xubuntu-specific folder or document names?05:42
adiroibanthe idea is to have similar lib and script folders05:42
adiroibanas for ubuntu-docs05:43
adiroibanno need to be identical...but try to keep them close05:43
j1mcso david's email about prepending the source package name only applies to the translation templates?05:43
adiroibanj1mc: yep... and only for the big list from Ubuntu05:44
adiroibansince we will now have xubuntu-docs translations in a dedicated project05:44
adiroibanwe don't need to append xubuntu-docs05:44
j1mc... ok.  i think xubuntu-docs won't have the same issues now... because they are in universe.05:45
j1mcshould i let you know when i've merged in the ubuntu docs, and have gotten things ready to start some translations?05:45
j1mcshould i use the "status" portion of each document to indicate if something is ready for translation?05:46
adiroibanj1mc: what do you mean my "merged in the ubuntu docs" ?05:46
j1mci'm going to rebase xubutu docs off of the current ubuntu docs05:46
j1mcso i will be throwing out a good chunk of xubuntu content at the start05:46
adiroibanj1mc: ok. that will be much easier for translatoins... most probably the translations script are already in place05:47
j1mcyes05:47
adiroibanwe just need to take care of generating the required html files... as ubuntu-docs uses xml05:47
adiroibanbut I did that for kubuntu-docs05:47
adiroibanwell05:47
adiroibanthen05:48
j1mcyes - xubuntu docs will only be output to html05:48
adiroibanas soon as you have pushed the new xubuntu-docs05:48
j1mcbut ... i don't want people to start translating until i get things in decent shape, does that make sense?05:48
j1mcotherwise, they'll be wasting their time05:48
adiroibanlet me know and I will do the required steps for enabling translations05:48
adiroibanand generating the translated html files05:49
j1mcok - it will be at leasta few weeks05:49
adiroibanj1mc: sure. usualy the announcemnet for translators is done only after doc string freeze05:50
adiroibanbut meanwhile we can prepare the required infrastructure05:50
j1mcok - thanks.  that sounds good.  i'd still like to get things done in advance of string freeze... i think there will be more xubuntu stuff to translate this time.05:50
adiroibangreat.05:51
adiroibanthan I will wait for the new xubuntu-docs branch for lucid to be pushed05:51
adiroibanthen I will wait for the new xubuntu-docs branch for lucid to be pushed05:51
j1mcanything else that you want to discuss for now?05:51
adiroibannope05:52
adiroibanI just wanted to know what are your plans05:52
shaunmj1mc: do you guys use xml2po for translations on this stuff?05:52
adiroibanand see what I should do next05:52
adiroibanshaunm: yep05:52
shaunmcool05:52
j1mcshaunm: yes...05:52
adiroibanj1mc: I was not sure if you are using docbook or mallard05:53
j1mci'm going to use mallard for the xfce documentation for now05:53
adiroibanbut if you are going with something similar to ubuntu-docs , everhing should be fine05:54
j1mcand will look to use it for xubuntu documentation in the future05:54
shaunmI only ask because we'll probably be moving xml2po out of gnome-doc-utils, in part to encourage more widespread use05:54
j1mcbut not during this release cycle05:54
shaunmbut it does't seem like the packaging is an issue for you05:54
j1mcshaunm: yeah, i think having xml2po separated out might be helpful for the xfce guys for now.05:55
adiroibanshaunm: if you want to help with packaging there is place you can help05:55
j1mcshaunm: i'm in favor of the new naming conventions you've mentioned.05:55
adiroibanshaunm: just ignore my last statement :)05:55
j1mci've just been on vacation, so hadn't responded05:55
j1mcadiroiban: i'll be in touch when xubuntu-docs are ready05:57
adiroibanj1mc: ok. np05:57
shaunmcool05:58
j1mcthanks for your help, adi.  looks like this is going to be a good release for translations05:58
shaunmok, bed time for shaunm05:58
j1mclater, shaunm05:58
adiroibanj1mc: I hope so :)05:58
adiroibanj1mc: I will also go to sleep soon05:59
j1mc'night, adiroiban06:01
j1mci'm off to bed, too.06:01
j1mcgoodnight, all06:03
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