[05:30] <adiroiban_> ds
[05:38] <j1mc> hi adiroiban and adiroiban_
[05:38] <adiroiban> j1mc:  :)
[05:38] <adiroiban> hi
[05:38] <j1mc> would you like to talk now?
[05:38] <adiroiban> yep
[05:39] <j1mc> ok... i'm getting another look at the bug report
[05:39] <adiroiban> the idea is just to have a quick chat
[05:39] <j1mc> ok
[05:39] <adiroiban> and see what is the current status and what we can do / help
[05:39] <j1mc> i'm going to be rebasing the xubuntu docs off of the current ubuntu docs
[05:39] <adiroiban> i have exported the translations from Launchpad
[05:40] <j1mc> so i'll need to get in some big changes before translations should start
[05:40] <adiroiban> and now I'm working at creating a script for doing all the transtlation and html generation from a bzr branch
[05:40] <j1mc> cool. :)
[05:40] <adiroiban> j1mc: are you still going to use docbook ?
[05:40] <j1mc> yes
[05:41] <adiroiban> ok. in this case I will create a folder structure similar to ubuntu-docs
[05:41] <adiroiban> so that we can share some scripts
[05:42] <j1mc> cool - do you want to use xubuntu-specific folder or document names?
[05:42] <adiroiban> the idea is to have similar lib and script folders
[05:43] <adiroiban> as for ubuntu-docs
[05:43] <adiroiban> no need to be identical...but try to keep them close
[05:43] <j1mc> so david's email about prepending the source package name only applies to the translation templates?
[05:44] <adiroiban> j1mc: yep... and only for the big list from Ubuntu
[05:44] <adiroiban> since we will now have xubuntu-docs translations in a dedicated project
[05:44] <adiroiban> we don't need to append xubuntu-docs
[05:45] <j1mc> ... ok.  i think xubuntu-docs won't have the same issues now... because they are in universe.
[05:45] <j1mc> should i let you know when i've merged in the ubuntu docs, and have gotten things ready to start some translations?
[05:46] <j1mc> should i use the "status" portion of each document to indicate if something is ready for translation?
[05:46] <adiroiban> j1mc: what do you mean my "merged in the ubuntu docs" ?
[05:46] <j1mc> i'm going to rebase xubutu docs off of the current ubuntu docs
[05:46] <j1mc> so i will be throwing out a good chunk of xubuntu content at the start
[05:47] <adiroiban> j1mc: ok. that will be much easier for translatoins... most probably the translations script are already in place
[05:47] <j1mc> yes
[05:47] <adiroiban> we just need to take care of generating the required html files... as ubuntu-docs uses xml
[05:47] <adiroiban> but I did that for kubuntu-docs
[05:47] <adiroiban> well
[05:48] <adiroiban> then
[05:48] <j1mc> yes - xubuntu docs will only be output to html
[05:48] <adiroiban> as soon as you have pushed the new xubuntu-docs
[05:48] <j1mc> but ... i don't want people to start translating until i get things in decent shape, does that make sense?
[05:48] <j1mc> otherwise, they'll be wasting their time
[05:48] <adiroiban> let me know and I will do the required steps for enabling translations
[05:49] <adiroiban> and generating the translated html files
[05:49] <j1mc> ok - it will be at leasta few weeks
[05:50] <adiroiban> j1mc: sure. usualy the announcemnet for translators is done only after doc string freeze
[05:50] <adiroiban> but meanwhile we can prepare the required infrastructure
[05:50] <j1mc> ok - thanks.  that sounds good.  i'd still like to get things done in advance of string freeze... i think there will be more xubuntu stuff to translate this time.
[05:51] <adiroiban> great.
[05:51] <adiroiban> than I will wait for the new xubuntu-docs branch for lucid to be pushed
[05:51] <adiroiban> then I will wait for the new xubuntu-docs branch for lucid to be pushed
[05:51] <j1mc> anything else that you want to discuss for now?
[05:52] <adiroiban> nope
[05:52] <adiroiban> I just wanted to know what are your plans
[05:52] <shaunm> j1mc: do you guys use xml2po for translations on this stuff?
[05:52] <adiroiban> and see what I should do next
[05:52] <adiroiban> shaunm: yep
[05:52] <shaunm> cool
[05:52] <j1mc> shaunm: yes...
[05:53] <adiroiban> j1mc: I was not sure if you are using docbook or mallard
[05:53] <j1mc> i'm going to use mallard for the xfce documentation for now
[05:54] <adiroiban> but if you are going with something similar to ubuntu-docs , everhing should be fine
[05:54] <j1mc> and will look to use it for xubuntu documentation in the future
[05:54] <shaunm> I only ask because we'll probably be moving xml2po out of gnome-doc-utils, in part to encourage more widespread use
[05:54] <j1mc> but not during this release cycle
[05:54] <shaunm> but it does't seem like the packaging is an issue for you
[05:55] <j1mc> shaunm: yeah, i think having xml2po separated out might be helpful for the xfce guys for now.
[05:55] <adiroiban> shaunm: if you want to help with packaging there is place you can help
[05:55] <j1mc> shaunm: i'm in favor of the new naming conventions you've mentioned.
[05:55] <adiroiban> shaunm: just ignore my last statement :)
[05:55] <j1mc> i've just been on vacation, so hadn't responded
[05:57] <j1mc> adiroiban: i'll be in touch when xubuntu-docs are ready
[05:57] <adiroiban> j1mc: ok. np
[05:58] <shaunm> cool
[05:58] <j1mc> thanks for your help, adi.  looks like this is going to be a good release for translations
[05:58] <shaunm> ok, bed time for shaunm
[05:58] <j1mc> later, shaunm
[05:58] <adiroiban> j1mc: I hope so :)
[05:59] <adiroiban> j1mc: I will also go to sleep soon
[06:01] <j1mc> 'night, adiroiban
[06:01] <j1mc> i'm off to bed, too.
[06:03] <j1mc> goodnight, all
[22:51] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, if you're around, i have a couple of quick questions on some bugs