[00:00] <raj> guys is the ext4 bug in ubuntu 9.10 still present?
[00:00] <madcheeze> ratatim, no, what i mean is, are you using windows?
[00:00] <madcheeze> ratatim, i see you arent tho
[00:00] <ratatim> madcheeze: should i get on a windows machine to create the flash boot drive?
[00:00] <Hillshum> What could cause apt to hold back upgrades?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> maco: and I already knew that having a seperate /home tends to make re installing easier,  and it's good advice to give to people :)
[00:00] <ratatim> madcheeze: yeah no windows for me
[00:00] <madcheeze> ratatim, i havent used ubuntu to create it before, i have always used windows. my windows machine is the one that takes the beating...
[00:01] <ratatim> madcheeze: haha well i'll go to the schools computer labs and make a boot disk that way. I won't lose my stuff will i? when i upgrade?
[00:01] <madcheeze> ratatim, are you sure its the whole .iso folder?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> raj: which one?  the one where big data might get currupted?
[00:01] <ratatim> madcheeze: its the raw file i downloaded from a mirror site
[00:01] <cedriczg> Hi again ubuntu community
[00:02] <ratatim> madcheeze: i haven't done anything to it
[00:02] <madcheeze> ratatim, then it should be the full .iso file. it should find it. if it doesnt, i cant help you without looking at it. maybe someone else here can.
[00:02] <ShawnRisk> how do I remove one package only and not the all the other packages that go along with this.  Like I want to remove wpasupplicant as I want to stop this from running all the time.  Any ideas?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> maco: (irelivant, but when did I actsaully find out that Ext4 in 9.04 can be a bit dodgy hmm)
[00:03] <ratatim> madcheeze: i'll just go get onto a windows machine and create a pendrive boot disk. You've been a great help. thanks
[00:03] <cedriczg> This month I have gone updating online from 8.04 to 8.10, then 9.04 and now will go at last to 9.10.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> raj: have a look at the 9.10 release notes
[00:03] <cedriczg> Did anyone face any major problems on online update from 9.04 to 9.10 ?
[00:03] <mdg> ShawnRisk: Hi!  How's it going?
[00:03] <madcheeze> ratatim, sorry, i didnt help you very much
[00:03] <maco> sebsebseb: there were bugs filed..
[00:03] <ShawnRisk> mdg: good and you?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> oh raj is gone already
[00:03] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I can't complain.
[00:03] <madcheeze> has anyone else had problems with the updates locking their system up?
[00:04] <mdg> ShawnRisk: did you get your wireless working?
[00:04] <ratatim> madcheeze: you were a big help. you reminded me of unetbootin. if i wouldn't have found that out again i'd be in way over my head still. I need to learn command line...
[00:04] <sebsebseb> maco: yeah  Ext4 bug reports
[00:04] <ShawnRisk> mdg: it is closer to being solved but not solved yet
[00:04] <ShawnRisk> mdg: want to help?
[00:05] <madcheeze> ratatim, im still learning too. you always learn something new using linux. windows makes you dumb as well as osx...
[00:05] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I just found a post a little while ago about broadcom and using a bcmwl driver - let me find the link...
[00:05] <ShawnRisk> mdg: nice
[00:05] <tehloki_> okay, i've successfully reinstalled grub after deleting the ntfs and fat32 partitions.
[00:05] <ratatim> madcheeze: haha yeah i couldn't agree more
[00:06] <tehloki_> should i keep my (now working) ubuntu install or wipe my HD and start with windows installed and THEN reinstall ubuntu
[00:06] <ratatim> madcheeze: have a good night. i'm sure i'll be back if i get stumped.
[00:06] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:06] <tehloki_> 9.10
[00:06] <mdg> ShawnRisk: Post #3 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330657&highlight=Broadcom
[00:07] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: so you just put Grub 2 on and it's working?  you upgraded from 9.04 before that?
[00:07] <mdg> ShawnRisk: which driver is installed right now?
[00:07] <ShawnRisk> mdg: just to update you I reinstalled Ubuntu to get it working again, and now what I am trying to is get the Access Point to work out.  I setup the ESSID, Encryption Key and Channel.
[00:07] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: my 9.10 install is working. installing win7 fucked up my MBR somehow. I wiped out the windows partition and reinstalled grub2 and now my ubuntu install can boots
[00:07] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: if 9.10 is working for you, well keep that install for now I guess :)
[00:07] <mdg> ShawnRisk: sticking with wep?
[00:07] <ShawnRisk> mdg: Broadcom B43 wireless driver
[00:08] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: i'm trying to install win7 too
[00:08] <sebsebseb> !language |  tehloki_
[00:08] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: oh dear
[00:08] <ShawnRisk> mdg: for the time being, I don't want to switch yet.
[00:08] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: if you re install Windows 7 (Vista version 2)
[00:08] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: it will go over the part of Grub 2 that's in your Master Boot Record
[00:08] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I have to go outside to do the garbage, can you pm me that is easier I don't want to lose the message
[00:08] <maco> tehloki_: ubuntu install always goes last if you want working grub
[00:08] <riverfr0zen> Hi there. Just upgraded to karmic and I'm noticing the audio from my line-in source is delayed by a couple of seconds. Any thoughts?
[00:09] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I can understand that - its quite an ordeal working through wireless setup.
[00:09] <tehloki_> even if i reinstall grub?
[00:09] <mdg> ShawnRisk: okay
[00:09] <maco> tehloki_: windows doesnt like admitting it has to share
[00:09] <tehloki_> okay i'll just format.
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: Then you would have to re install Grub and that can be a right pain
[00:09] <maco> tehloki_: if youre ok with reinstalling grub, go ahead
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: was this an upgrade from 9.04 or not?
[00:09] <tehloki_> well i did but it didn't work last time
[00:09] <ShawnRisk> mdg: if I get WEP working than I can move over to WAP when I get time
[00:09] <maco> tehloki_: just saying, if you always install windows before ubuntu, you can avoid playing around with grub
[00:09] <tehloki_> yes sebsebseb
[00:09] <tehloki_> wait no
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: an upgrade?
[00:09] <tehloki_> i upgraded, it broke everything, i reinstalled
[00:09] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: or clean install?
[00:09] <tehloki_> so this is a clean install.
[00:10] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: oh ok so Ext4 and working Grub 2 for you, but no Windows 7 :D
[00:10] <tehloki_> yeah
[00:10] <xNinja> hello...i was connected with no problem in my laptop through wireless...but after plugging a cable i cant connect to internet...i think the route has been changed or something !?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: yeah basically what maco says,  I wonder if Microsoft did it on purpouse so Windows overwrites the MBR on install like it does
[00:10] <sebsebseb> techhelper1: says not said,  anyway uhmmm what do you use Windows for?
[00:10] <tehloki_> well it didn't just overwrite the MBR with its own bootloader, it corrupted it.
[00:11] <mdg> xNinja: click on your networking icon and see if it shows wireless or ethernet cable is being used
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: Is that a reasonably new computer, hence Windows 7?
[00:11] <tehloki_> yes
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: How much RAM?
[00:11] <tehloki_> 4gb
[00:11] <maco> sebsebseb: i think MS just doesnt care to fix it
[00:11] <xNinja> mdg can we do that in command prompt ? i am ssh to that pc
[00:11] <sebsebseb> maco:  could be
[00:11] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: ok :) good
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: and you got the Windows 7 DVD yes?
[00:12] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: yes
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: good
[00:12] <tehloki_> so i'm going to wipe out my drive now and try installing win7 THEN ubuntu 9.10
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: you should be able to virtual machine it inside Ubuntu :)
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: hold on
[00:12] <mdg> xNinja: try "ifconfig" in a terminal (no quotes) This will tell you waht networking interfaces are setup.
[00:12] <riverfr0zen> How do I get rid of pulseaudio in Karmic?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: Virtual machines are awesome, well depending on what you want to do, for most Windows stuff oh yes they are awesome :)
[00:12] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: i'm a bit of a gamer, will that work well enough
[00:13] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: games hmm
[00:13] <tehloki_> i'm just going to win7, ubuntu with partitions
[00:13] <Docteh> I run my linux partition in virtualbox occasionally
[00:13] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: well  Virtualbox 3.0+  has some Direct3D 8 support
[00:13] <Docteh> works great when i dont want to reboot to do package updates
[00:13] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: that you could try, if you got some 3D games, plus you can get stuff working in Wine etc
[00:13] <xNinja> mdg i have eth0 and wlan1 connected each has different ip range eth0 192.168.3. / wlan1 192.168.1.0
[00:13] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: doesn't sound like much fun.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: ok
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: when you re installed before, did you do a seperate /home I guess not?
[00:14] <jcp> i'm having an issue getting my cron script to run correctly
[00:14] <mdg> xNinja: okay.  So now you are wanting to use the wireless?
[00:14] <usser> !ask | jcp
[00:14] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: well those can be really good to have, and it's much easier to set them up on a clean install of Ubuntu
[00:14] <cornflake> does anyone know how to get an internal microphone to work?
[00:15] <jcp> i have the following line: */5 * * * * echo 'tick tock...' &>> /home/jcp/development/lib/scripts/logs/cronlog.txt
[00:15] <xNinja> mdg yep
[00:15] <jrib> jcp: and?
[00:15] <Altreus[Hireme]> google has so far told me that a radeon 9200 isn't going to work on 9.10...
[00:15] <jcp> and it doesnt seem to work, nothing gets appended to that log file, and there are no errors in /var/log/cron.log
[00:16] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: so I suggest doing that :)  and  ok sure,  re install,  Windows 7 first, then put Ubuntu on
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> hey all, having a possible trojan problem with wget. Can anyone tell me the md5sum of wget on their Ubuntu 9.10?  "md5sum /usr/bin/wget"?
[00:16] <jrib> jcp: you should create a bash script and just run that.  I bet crontab gets interpreted through sh
[00:16] <mdg> xNinja: I'm tryint to think of the command to disconnect eth0 and restart wlan1
[00:16] <usser> jcp, cron doesnt like redirections etc, put the line in a bash script
[00:16] <nemo> Gaming4JC: which processor?
[00:16] <nemo> Gaming4JC: x86 or 64?
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> x64
[00:16] <xNinja> mdg no i just need the route right command
[00:16] <charles`_> is there a way to override my dns server but still use network-manager?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> tehloki_: dual boot :)
[00:16] <charles`_> (and dhcp)
[00:16] <nemo> linux-64:~$ md5sum `which wget`
[00:16] <nemo> dcb32f8346aa75f8220ca6c6008d3464  /usr/bin/wget
[00:17] <nemo> Gaming4JC: so. did you get trojaned? :)
[00:17] <mdg> xNinja: I'm kinda lost - you mean an ssh command?
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> nemo: thanks, strangely no the md5hash check matches.
[00:17] <xNinja> mdg route add gw or something like that
[00:17] <Proteus> I'm putting together a new box and I'm thinking of buying an ATI 5850 but I've never used ati cards (this new) with linux and I'm concerned about driver support. does anyone here have first hand experience with the new radeons?
[00:17] <xNinja> yes ssh command
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> nemo: I've still no idea why it was running as root and wouldn't respond to pkill.
[00:17] <nemo> Gaming4JC: they compromised md5sum too ;)
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> nemo: never thought of that? o_O
[00:18] <jcp> usser: i'm just testing to see if the cron script is running in the first place. i'm trying to debug a job thats supposed to be running every 15 minutes, which isnt, and i think the culprit is cron
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> lol
[00:18] <nemo> Gaming4JC: um. wget is probably used by the updater
[00:18] <nemo> Gaming4JC: could simply be some background fetch that stalled
[00:18] <nemo> why it isn't responding to pkill... dunno, were you running the kill as non-root?
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> nemo: possible, but it's strange some of the binaries it downloaded. And I did run it as sudo
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> nemo: how about "ls -lc /usr/bin/wget"
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> for modification date.
[00:18] <nemo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 241680 2009-10-08 23:12 /usr/bin/wget
[00:19] <korogiannos> Hi.  I have tried this before and gone wrong.  I have windows7, now freshly installed ubuntu. they both boot, now i've installed the updates in ubuntu I need to choose "Configuring grub-pc" should I "keep the local version currently installed"?  I think I chose the package maintainers one last time and needed to repair win7.  I don't have the win disk so must get it right
[00:19] <nemo> Gaming4JC: how on earth would date help? we presumably installed at different times
[00:19] <jrib> jcp: just check for mail from cron
[00:19] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:19] <Gaming4JC> nemo: If the file was modifed at a different time
[00:19] <nemo> Gaming4JC: you might want to run a rootkit checker
[00:19] <korogiannos> sebsebseb:karmic
[00:19] <Gaming4JC> nemo: I ran unhide, seemed to be crashing on karmic
[00:19] <mdg> xNinja: like a "bind address" command?
[00:19] <madcheeze> Gaming4JC, use antivir its great..
[00:20] <nemo> Gaming4JC: chkrootkit
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> lol
[00:20] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: so brand new install,  just doing the updates?
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> nemo: ok I'll give that one a try
[00:20] <madcheeze> Gaming4JC, great for what it does. use the usb stick version
[00:20] <Proteus> does anyone know how well ubuntu/linux in general supports the new ATI cards?
[00:20] <nemo> Gaming4JC: of course, I'm a bit puzzled how you could get compromised in first place - bad repos or bad ssh password?
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> nemo: the strange thing is it downloaded 14MB and the files were anything from dlls, to images
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Proteus: ATI cards tend to be an issue with Desktop Linux, because of their lack of support
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> nemo: I've no idea, bad repos perhaps.
[00:20] <nemo> Gaming4JC: hm. UbuntuOne synchronisation?
[00:20] <nemo> dlls??
[00:20] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: yup. I installed before and had to use the windows disk to repair windows boot.  now I've fresh install again.  It went wrong when I installed updates to grub last time too.
[00:21] <nemo> weird.
[00:21] <nemo> Gaming4JC: uh. maybe ies4lin ?
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> nemo: I don't use Ubuntu One and yes it downloaded windows exe, some dll, and some other stuff in a packet log.
[00:21] <madcheeze> what is the consensus on the ubuntu one? am i better off using something like dropbox?
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> nemo: I don't use winetricks or ies4lin
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> :/
[00:21] <brova> how can i use grep to search ONLY up until the first ":" in the /etc/passwd
[00:21] <nemo> madcheeze: I use my own home server for a dropbox
[00:21] <nemo> madcheeze: but the synchronisation is kind of fun to play with anyway.
[00:22] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: I think I am correct,  but maybe not.   the local version currently is installed is the one that is on there right now.  The package maintainers version will be any update to Grub 2.
[00:22] <jrib> brova: search the man page for "stop"?
[00:22] <jcp> jrib: see this is the problem, i see no signs of errors anywhere. no mail from cron, nothing in the log, but its clear the scripts i have in the crontab are not being run
[00:22] <jcp> i can run the scripts manually and they work fine
[00:22] <jrib> jcp: desktop ubuntu doesn't install an mta by default, did you install one?
[00:22] <brova> jrib: ok. you have helped me before i remember you lol
[00:22] <jrib> brova: hi :)
[00:22] <Gaming4JC> nemo: Do you know if cron runs any updates in the background, and even if it does why would it download dlls? o_O
[00:22] <nemo> Gaming4JC: do you have open ssh? :)
[00:22] <Gaming4JC> nemo: nope.
[00:22] <jrib> brova: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> nemo: As far as I know I'm not running any servers lol.
[00:23] <nemo> Gaming4JC: what's your IP? can I scan you from outside?
[00:23] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: all works fine now, should I keep the local one?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: it should be ok to do either option
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> nemo sure feel free to scan
[00:23] <nemo> Gaming4JC: hopefully you use reject and not drop - drop is such false security...
[00:23] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: I was typing your answer, before I even got that question
[00:23] <jcp> jrib: that could be the problem, im going to look into that now
[00:23] <Proteus> sebsebseb, so basically, for good desktop support my only choice is going with an nvidia card? how bad is ati support really?
[00:23] <nemo> Gaming4JC: your current IP is same?
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> nemo: get the query, yes.
[00:23] <jrib> jcp: debian uses exim by default which I like, but there are lighter ones too
[00:24] <brova> jrib: im trying to search for user names and display the information from the /etc/passwd file based upon command line arguements, problem is right now that when i type user as a command line arguement awell it also finds directories
[00:24] <nemo> Gaming4JC: ugh. you use drop - this will take a while...
[00:24] <ZaNeIuM> i'm no longer seeing my connection status un the upper riight cormer of my screen, how do i det it back?
[00:24] <jrib> brova: can you show an example?
[00:24] <xNinja> mdg thanks anyway :D
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Proteus: some of the Nivida cards get issues to,  I think like the very latest or maybe the really realy old ones.  However Nivida are known to have the best Desktop Linux graphics support.   ATI  = problems usaulley or that's the impression I get anyway from being here in this channel enough times
[00:24] <Gaming4JC> nemo: Why is it better to reject than drop, lol?
[00:24] <ZaNeIuM> its not in the add a pannles box ether
[00:24] <brova> jrib: i will paste bin everything i have so far
[00:24] <thief> I want to repartition my drives so I can have more space on the linux one (I will suck it from a ntfs partition). what is the most reliable program around to do it?
[00:25] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: Thanks.  Not sure what went wrong last time.  Is this the right place to ask about comparing the "side by side difference between versions"? or is that another IRC room? I can't afford to have it brake now I've lost my windows disk...
[00:25] <madcheeze> thief, gparted
[00:25] <nemo> Gaming4JC: well, I just don't see drop offering any significant advantages in security, and it is a PITA for legitimate connections
[00:25] <Altreus[Hireme]> Where can I download previous versions of ubuntu?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: Sure you can ask abou the Ubuntu versions in here.
[00:25] <Altreus[Hireme]> specifically jaunty
[00:25] <thief> madcheeze, I will check it out, thanks
[00:25] <jrib> Altreus[Hireme]: releases.ubuntu.com
[00:25] <Altreus[Hireme]> ty
[00:25] <madcheeze> thief, no prob
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]:  What's up with Karmic?  http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04
[00:26] <Altreus[Hireme]> sebsebseb: google tells me to give up trying to get my radeon 9200 working under karmic
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]: good idea to md5sum/sha1sum your ISO before burning contents to CD.  the code you compare to is in the list of files
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]: if you downloaded from torrent it's probably fine though
[00:26] <bobbyi> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 on my friend's Desktop.  It gets to the login screen, but freezes when trying to load up the desktop.  I ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal and startx -- :1 and it starts to load the desktop but freezes.  I notice the top and bottom bars aren't rendered correctly when I switched back to terminal after startx command.  He has an nvidia geforce 7800 GT, is there something I need to do to configure X c
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]: that's ATI isn't it?
[00:27] <magmarules> guys anyone knows a way to configure shadows in compiz so that windows have larger shadows then menus?
[00:27] <brova> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d478316cb
[00:27] <Altreus[Hireme]> sebsebseb: yes.
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Proteus: see above what  Altreus[Hireme]  put
[00:27] <carlos> ?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Proteus: yet another ATI  graphics card issue
[00:27] <Altreus[Hireme]> sebsebseb: it is older than the minimum that the fglrx drivers support, according to the wiki
[00:27] <carlos> ati is meh
[00:27] <Proteus> sebsebseb, I've heard about ATI's bad drivers for years but I've also heard that they were trying to get their act together and have dedicated delopment for linux. I saw that newegg was going to have 5850s back in stock tomorrow....it would suck to have to wait for nvidia to finally get around to releasing their mid-range fermi card
[00:27] <Bolvadur2> BobbyShaftoe: have you installled the drivers?
[00:28] <Altreus[Hireme]> sebsebseb: this thread told me not to bother http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1121222&page=2
[00:28] <Bolvadur2> bobbyi: : have you installled the drivers?
[00:28] <brova> jrib: the problem is, if you run the script, that it will highlight the /user/
[00:28] <BluesKaj> bobbyi, install the nvidia-glx-185 driver
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Proteus: well  most Nivida cards work great in Desktop Linux :)
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Proteus: ATI that's not the case, and I guess same thing for Intel
[00:28] <bobbyi> can I install with apt-get?
[00:28] <Altreus[Hireme]> unfortunately I can't afford a new nvidia card, which is why I'm using free stuff to do it
[00:28] <BluesKaj> yes, bobbyi
[00:28] <Altreus[Hireme]> unfortunately, free means old ATI stuff
[00:28] <bobbyi> ok, I will go try that now.  Thank you very much
[00:29] <jrib> brova: I see.  You probably want to match something like '^$x'
[00:29] <jcp> jrib: what kind of configuration is needed once i've got sendmail installed?
[00:29] <silent_h> Has anyone else noticed that the Firefox menu fonts are HUGE if you leave your fonts at 10pt?  Other GTK apps are normal - only Firefox renders them huge...
[00:29] <hyper89> linux is confusing
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]: well  overall for many 9.04 is really the better release, not 9.10,  plus that's fine to use that  online,  when it's still being supported and your getting the security updates
[00:29] <bobbyi> I assume I need internet access to install the driver?  (i.e. won't be found on CD)
[00:29] <jrib> jcp: I don't think I've ever installed sendmail, but usually it should just work for local mail (exim asks you using debconf)
[00:30] <hyper89> why is linux confusing?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> hyper89: Hello what's up?  What's the problem?
[00:30] <silent_h> hyper89: it can be, but what's your current problem?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> hyper89: What do you want to do?
[00:30] <Bolvadur2> hyper89: it's a conspiracy
[00:30] <silent_h> lol
[00:30] <hyper89> just hard to learn i guess im a newb still
[00:30] <madcheeze> ati is fine. you just end up having to compile the driver from scratch. thats what linux is all about isnt it?
[00:30] <hyper89> need to do more reading i assume?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> !new | hyper89
[00:30] <jrib> hyper89: check out help.ubuntu.com
[00:31] <sebsebseb> hyper89: Ubuntu Pocket Guide as well :)
[00:31] <hyper89> thanks
[00:31] <BluesKaj> bobbyi, it's possible that the live cd contains the right kernel module driver
[00:31] <silent_h> you mean learning basic stuff like making your way around the desktop environment?
[00:31] <brova> jrib: THANKS :D
[00:31] <sebsebseb> hyper89: np
[00:31] <Bolvadur2> hyper89: no you need more tweaking and stuff... trying to break your system doing fancy stuff :P
[00:31] <jrib> hyper89: one of the best ways to learn is to install an extra copy of ubuntu in virtual box and go crazy experimenting there
[00:31] <madcheeze> jrib, you hit that one on the head...
[00:31] <sebsebseb> hyper89: what  Bolvadur2  put jokeingly I think, isn't  exactly helpful
[00:31] <Proteus> madcheeze, compile from scratch? do the open source drivers support the 5850s?
[00:31] <assoguerozen_sx> amagodi q lag isso aqui
[00:31] <Bolvadur2> aaawww
[00:31] <hyper89> i do have it on a VB ;)
[00:31] <brova> me and hyper are both in the same college course actually
[00:31] <silent_h> yes, because then you can break it really bad and it doesn't matter :)
[00:31] <jrib> !br | assoguerozen_sx
[00:31] <sebsebseb> hyper89: hmm with Windows as host?
[00:32] <hyper89> i just find it more difficult, cause i dont read ENOUGH on this stuff
[00:32] <hyper89> yes windows as host
[00:32] <madcheeze> Proteus, yes, but i havent found one that works out of the box with opengl and all. thats why there is alot of info around the web about it
[00:32] <jordyd> Will I risk confusing the package manager if I modify /opt ?
[00:32] <sebsebseb> hyper89: that can be ok for trying to get a feel for it, but really it should be the other way round :)
[00:32] <jrib> jordyd: no, package manager shouldn't install stuff to /opt anyway
[00:32] <jordyd> jrib: Cool, thanks.
[00:32] <silent_h> hyper89: anything in particular causing you problems or confusing you, or just in general?
[00:32] <jrib> jordyd: you can always check if a package is responsible for a file by using « dpkg -S »
[00:32] <higuy2071> gah! im stuck at version 8.04 of ubuntu and i can upgrade out of it, can anyone with some expertiese walk me through upgrading?
[00:32] <hyper89> in general, i think i just need to practice more
[00:32] <madcheeze> Proteus, use virtualbox in your windows partition, and install ubuntu on it. tweak it, make it the way you want, then move over to ubuntu and get it working the way you like...
[00:32] <hyper89> which what i dont do
[00:33] <hyper89> is*
[00:33] <jrib> !upgrade > higuy2071
[00:33] <silent_h> fair enough - well good luck :)
[00:33] <sebsebseb> jrib: beat me to it :)
[00:33] <jrib> higuy2071: make sure your options aren't ignoring non-LTS releases
[00:33] <Bolvadur2> higuy2071: when you are in 8.04 and want to update, I recommend doing it from cd and doing a fresh install.
[00:33] <silent_h> took me a long time before I was comfortable enough to switch over 100%
[00:33] <jordyd> jrib: I want to install something there manually. (not in the repos)
[00:33] <sebsebseb> higuy2071:  uhmm might want to stay with 8.04 for now
[00:33] <Altreus[Hireme]> sebsebseb: cool, jaunty it is then :)
[00:33] <Rajasun> madcheeze: how is ati fine if as said so many users seem to have problems with its cards but not so with nvidia on linux?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> higuy2071: since if you do you can upgrade directly to 10.04 when it comes out at the end of April
[00:33] <hyper89> brb
[00:33] <madcheeze> Rajasun, the problem is with the driver support.
[00:33] <jrib> jordyd: yeah, /opt and /usr/local/ are the two good places for that (personally, I use /usr/local/ if it has a "unixy" structure and /opt otherwise)
[00:34] <jcp> is there a way to tell the last time a script was run?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> higuy2071: no Grub 2 or Ext4 when doing the upgrade though, but that's not a big deal
[00:34] <madcheeze> Rajasun, thats why you have to manage it yourself.
[00:34] <Bolvadur2> higuy2071: I updated 2 computers from 8.04 to 9.10 and it took hours and in the end both systems rendered a bit more sluggish than they should be compared to a fresh install
[00:34] <jrib> jcp: I doubt it
[00:34] <higuy2071> i want to do a fresh install, but ive heard you shouldnt skip in upgrades
[00:34] <thief> when I right-click the NTFS partition on GParted, most options, including resize, are disabled, why is that?
[00:34] <higuy2071> i want to be at 9.10
[00:34] <snnw> Hello, I have a problem with ecryptfs. I'm trying to mount a private home directory under Jaunty from a dual-booted Karmic. Mounting the private directory seems to succeed but no files actually show up in ~. Could somebody help me troubleshoot, please?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Altreus[Hireme]: do the ISO check I mentioned :)
[00:34] <madcheeze> Rajasun, you want to learn linux, and be good at it? then learn how to compile a driver, and manage it. that will teach you mostly all you will ever need to know about linux
[00:34] <jrib> higuy2071: if you do a fresh install it doesn't matter if you skip of course
[00:34] <silent_h> higuy2071: a fresh install is a good idea rather than upgrading through all those versions -- just make sure you back up your stuff first!
[00:35] <Bolvadur2> higuy2071: download and burn the 9.10 cd and install it from scratch
[00:35] <Rajasun> madcheeze: why is it that nvidia seems to do a better job at that without user intervention i.e. needing user to "manage it himself/herself"?
[00:35] <madcheeze> Rajasun, compiling a driver is not for the feint at heart...
[00:35] <jordyd> jrib: Well, it specifies /opt, I'm not about to complain if it doesn't cause problems. :) I generally install things into /usr/local/ as well.
[00:35] <urizen>  
[00:35] <higuy2071> jrib: how do i uninstall this old version?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> higuy2071: if you really want 9.10, I suggest doing a clean install,  because of what I just mentioned  no Ext4 and Grub 2 on upgrade, and also how many people got issues after upgarding 9.04 to 9.10
[00:35] <jrib> jordyd: what are you installing by the way?
[00:35] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: MANY THANKS!  The local version did it.  Now both windows and Ubuntu boot, Ubuntu especially fast.
[00:35] <Proteus> madcheeze, my shtick is evolutionary algorithms and computational biology, I mainly need OpenCL support. OpenGL would be nice, but it isn't essential. Is getting solid opencl support for these cards in linux already there or is it hopeless?
[00:35] <silent_h> the installer will allow you to use your entire hard drive, effectively overwriting the old install
[00:35] <silent_h> which is why you need to back up everything
[00:35] <jrib> higuy2071: just tell the installer to overwrite it during the partition setup
[00:35] <Rajasun> madcheeze: why is it that nvidia seems to do a better job at that without user intervention i.e. needing user to "manage it himself/herself" 9 out of 10 instances that is?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: ok good :)
[00:35] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: now just remember to use Ubuntu mainly :)
[00:36] <jrib> higuy2071: you lose data of course if you don't have backups
[00:36] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: and have as the one that boots up by default :D
[00:36] <higuy2071> jrib: is there an option to do that while installing?
[00:36] <madcheeze> Rajasun, because they are a bigger entity and can support it better than ati. remember, ati is the amd of graphics... they dont have the support channels and body that nvidia has
[00:36] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: For everything except a few games with my flatmates :)
[00:36] <jrib> higuy2071: yeah, during the partition setup
[00:36] <silent_h> higuy: yes, what he said ;)
[00:36] <madcheeze> Proteus, i dont know about opencl. i dont use it. thats getting deeper than i would like to go
[00:36] <sebsebseb> korogiannos: ok
[00:36] <madcheeze> Proteus, at least for now
[00:36] <jordyd> jrib: clojure-mode, slime, and swank-clojure. I am installing from here: http://riddell.us/tutorial/slime_swank/slime_swank.html
[00:37] <justcop> dpkg --configure -a fixed my problems, can someone please explain to me what exactly that did?
[00:37] <korogiannos> sebsebseb: Thanks again. I bid you farewell
[00:37] <higuy2071> jrib: thank you :)
[00:37] <silent_h> higuy2071: but again, we can't stress enough to make a backup of your data first
[00:37] <higuy2071> i dont have any data haha
[00:37] <silent_h> that works then :)
[00:37] <madcheeze> Rajasun, if you want an easy install, use nvidia. if you want to work on it, use ati.
[00:37] <jordyd> jrib: Well, actually, minus the slime because I already have that.
[00:37] <silent_h> you can just tell the new installer to "use my entire hard drive" and it will do the rest for you
[00:37] <ten80p> Hello, I keep getting DRDY ERR and ICRC ABRT messages when i access my sata disk .. there was no problem when the disk was connected to usb, and the disk works fine on windows, any ideas?
[00:38] <madcheeze> Proteus, same for you, if you want to work on it, and compile the driver, then use ati, if you want something that will generally work out of the box, then use nvidia
[00:38] <Rajasun> madcheeze: so by what u have said and the truth about the relative ease of nvidia cards for most on linux vis-a-vis those from ati, don't you think your original statement that linux is all about compiling is not true but only applies to certain circumstances e.g. certain (not all) ati cards?
[00:38] <silent_h> ten80p: try going to the "Places" menu, and see if the drive shows up there -- when I use eSATA on mine I have to mount it manually (since it is considered an internal drive)
[00:39] <ten80p> once i enter x with the drive installed the whole OS hard locks [9.04]
[00:39] <madcheeze> Rajasun, a .inf is the a .inf file. you just have to build it to work with linux. so no, the truth is that ati is just as good. but the driver support sucks. its like buying an italian sport bike in the us, and expect great support... it just doesnt happen
[00:39] <Proteus> madcheeze, I'm ok with working on it if I need to but could you point me in the direction of the relevant info?
[00:40] <silent_h> ten80p: hmm, is it just a data drive or are you trying to boot the OS from it?
[00:40] <ten80p> no, OS is on another drive
[00:41] <madcheeze> Proteus, what relevant info would you like?
[00:41] <ZaNeIuM> anyone know how to get back the ichon in the upper right corner that told me my connection status? it went missing
[00:42] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: right click and add to panel? or reset panels to default
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !panels | ZaNeIuM
[00:42] <madcheeze> ZaNeIuM, right click the bar at the top, and click add to panel, then go choose your network monitor
[00:42] <silent_h> it's called the "indicator applet"
[00:42] <thief> when I right-click the NTFS partition on GParted, most options, including resize, are disabled, why is that? I weant to shrink the NTFS to make the ext3 bigger
[00:42] <ZaNeIuM> its not the pannels
[00:42] <Proteus> madcheeze, well, anything pertaining to getting support for things like opencl and opengl on a new ATI card via released tools or compiling custom drivers or whatever
[00:42] <ZaNeIuM> ok ill try that thx
[00:43] <silent_h> ten80p: sorry, don't know how to fix your problem, but it does look like others have reported the same error codes
[00:43] <Rajasun> madcheeze: thing is nvidia users dun need to compile their drivers on linux for most instances, whereas quite a few ati card owners may need to. Thus defined as such i.e. relative enduser ease, nvidia is a betterthan ati and doesn't require compilation of drivers and so said linux isn't all about compiling. At least that isn't the instance for nvidia users and enough ati users in Ubuntu right?
[00:44] <ten80p> i have seen many others with this problem, i think i will give up and put the hdd on windows
[00:44] <cyclic> hi! I just want to create a video clip for an mp3 song that has just a picture on it...that is all! what software can I use?
[00:44] <madcheeze> Proteus, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[00:44] <ShawnRisk1> I missed everyone
[00:45] <ZaNeIuM> sebsebseb: i did that, and its still not there
[00:45] <madcheeze> Rajasun, thats because nvidia has put time into their drivers for open source support. ati has not.
[00:45] <ZaNeIuM> i reset it in the treminal
[00:45] <marek> a ja mam problem  z wyłaczaniem kompa
[00:46] <madcheeze> Proteus, like i said, if you want something that will work out of your box, then use nvidia.
[00:46] <Bolvadur2> does anyone recommend XFCE on a bare install? or some other DE? (not flux)
[00:46] <snnw> I know this channel is very busy, but could someone look at my problem with ecryptfs. ^^^
[00:46] <ZaNeIuM> but still got no network status
[00:46] <Proteus> madcheeze, thanks for the link though, I'll have to go through this.
[00:46] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: XFCE tends to get recommended in here for computers with old hardware not much RAM etc
[00:46] <madcheeze> Rajasun, same for you. if you want something to just work, then use nvidia. i have my reasons for using ati, and one is because i favor the underdog. thats why i always use amd vs intel.
[00:46] <ShawnRisk> I seem to not be able to connect to wireless but I am able to see the wireless networks that are nearby me.  Everytime I try to connect to my wireless router it just keeps coming back with having me enter the password over and over.  Using WEP.  What do I do to fix this?
[00:47] <spydon> Can I see which nfs folders that are shared on another computer anyhow?
[00:47] <madcheeze> ShawnRisk, version of ubuntu?
[00:47] <ShawnRisk> 9.10
[00:47] <madcheeze> ShawnRisk, gnome or kde?
[00:47] <squircle> !ask | snnw
[00:47] <Bolvadur2> sebsebseb: I know, I actually got lots of ram but want something snappier than gnome
[00:48] <cynic__> does anyone know how to create a simple video clip for an mp3 file with one of the Ubuntu software? I just want to put a picture through the whole song
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: XFCE, Fluxbox, LXDE,  etc
[00:48] <ShawnRisk> madcheeze: gnome
[00:48] <snnw> squircle: I was actually referring to my question above.
[00:48] <squircle> snnw: aah, sorry
[00:48] <ZaNeIuM>  i no longer have network monitor in my upper taks bar, it dissapeared and i reset the pannels but it still dont show up, how cani run it manually?
[00:48] <dabadoo> whats a good ftp client?
[00:48] <madcheeze> ShawnRisk, be sure that the key is open key, and that the authentication is 64 and 128bit.
[00:48] <sebsebseb> !ftp |  dabadoo
[00:49] <snnw> squircle: you don't happen to be an ecryptfs guru, do you? XD
[00:49] <sebsebseb> dabadoo: gFTP
[00:49] <Bolvadur2> sebsebseb: Ive used flux, openbox, awesome, gnome, kde4, lxde (masonix) and... um... plain cli
[00:49] <spydon> !nfs | spydon
[00:49] <squircle> !opinion | dabadoo
[00:49] <Bolvadur2> sebsebseb: some interesting other des you've used?
[00:49] <Athen> is there a way to make a 'gnome-terminal' command open a terminal maximized ?
[00:49] <trism> Bolvadur2: I'm using icewm
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: I have used stuff, but I tend to use  Gnome or KDE,  there's icevm and what not as well
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: loads of window managers out there
[00:50] <Bolvadur2> trism: ty I forgot about icewm
[00:50] <ShawnRisk> everyone else can help?
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: in fact I tend to run  Gnome with some KDE apps,  except the last few days I been using KDE 4 and not on Ubuntu
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: last few days or so
[00:51] <marsha> ShawnRisk: I'm back
[00:51] <boss_mc> Woo! Karmic clean install!  Now, is there a way to loop the line in to the speakers, like there was in Jaunty?
[00:51] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: not sure what your trying to do, but certain things that worked fine in Jaunty don't in Karmic
[00:52] <Bolvadur2> boss_mc: do you mean record the stuff you are listening to?
[00:52] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: no, just pass the input straight to the output
[00:52] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: uhmm that was in reply to Bolvadur2 ?
[00:52] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: yes
[00:53] <sebsebseb> thought so
[00:53] <Bolvadur2> boss_mc: gl
[00:54] <sebsebseb> Bolvadur2: gl I guess
[00:54] <sebsebseb> ah
[00:54] <sebsebseb> wrong one
[00:54] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: that was for you
[00:54] <mr_daniel> how can I send a message to the ubuntu notification sysem? which command line tool can I use for this?
[00:54] <squircle> !enter | sebsebseb
[00:55] <sebsebseb> squircle: uh huh
[00:55] <squircle> :)
[00:55] <sebsebseb> altough right now it hardly matters
[00:55] <sebsebseb> since the channel isn't that busy
[00:55] <squircle> true, this is the least busy i've seen it in months
[00:55] <sebsebseb> squircle: yeah last few days it hasn't been that busy, and I been thinking about possible reasons for that
[00:56] <jorik> the world is out of noobs
[00:56] <rob0917> is there a channel to share ubuntu experiences?
[00:56] <sebsebseb> jorik: hmm
[00:56] <lhx>  /j handbrake
[00:56] <sebsebseb> jorik: I think I know what you mean as a joke, but hmm
[00:56] <jazzencat> I am trying to make a bootable USB drive using usb-creator and a ubuntu iso.  i click format on /dev/sdb entry and a /dev/sdb1 pops up but i can't continue after that either nothing happens or i get a dbus error if i try to open the usb drive
[00:56] <trism> mr_daniel: you can use notify-send in the libnotify-bin package
[00:56] <sebsebseb> jorik: I assume you were jokeing
[00:56] <sebsebseb> !noob |  jorik
[00:56] <squircle> sebsebseb: well, i'm going to have to ask all my ubuntu server questions in here 'cause #ubuntu-server is so empty
[00:56] <jorik> yes, i was joking... the world will never be out of noobs
[00:56] <snnw> Ah, time to repost my question :)
[00:56] <snnw> I have a problem with ecryptfs. I'm trying to mount a private home directory under Jaunty from a dual-booted Karmic. Mounting the private directory seems to succeed but no files actually show up in ~. Could somebody help me troubleshoot, please?
[00:56] <jazzencat> i have rebooted and tried using disk utility to erase it...
[00:58] <sebsebseb> rob0917: Yeah I guess so
[00:58] <sebsebseb> !ot |  rob0917
[00:58] <sebsebseb> rob0917: or you can pm me and we can share some experiences if you want
[00:59] <squircle> can anybody suggest a good postfix-dovecot-spamassassin-clamav (or any of the above) comprehensive tutorial (since #ubuntu-server is dead)?
[00:59] <ikus060> Hello, I need you help here. I'm french and I don't know what is the right expression to talk about the index you found at the end of a book that containt a list of keyword and at which page it's referenced into the book.
[00:59] <sebsebseb> !fr |  ikus060
[00:59] <Billiard> snnw: you sure you have files that should be there?
[01:00] <ProfOak> Is anyone having flash issues in ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit)?
[01:00] <jorik> squircle: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-domains-postfix-courier-mysql-squirrelmail-debian-lenny
[01:00] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: probably quite a few people
[01:00] <jorik> wrong distro, but im sure they have it for ubuntu
[01:00] <snnw> Billiard: .profile should be there, right? It isn't.
[01:00] <ikus060> sebsebseb, do I look like someone that need help in french .. no. I want the name of the thing in English ..
[01:00] <spydon> Does anyone know if its possible to list all remote shares on an NFS-server?
[01:00] <Billiard> snnw: did you create .profile ?
[01:00] <sebsebseb> ikus060: ok :)
[01:00] <Billiard> ikus060: glossary?
[01:00] <squircle> ikus060: you got the name right, an index
[01:01] <ProfOak> sebsebseb: Is it a popular issue? I was afraid I was alone.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: Flash issues are reasonably common with Ubuntu
[01:01] <squircle> jorik: yeah, but that's courier... i found a pretty good one here: http://craigballinger.com/blog/2009/07/postfix-dovecot-mailserver-on-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope/
[01:01] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: since  it's not open source
[01:01] <ikus060> Billiard, a glossary it's more a list of keyword and it's definition .. isn't it ?
[01:01] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: Adobe's one
[01:01] <squircle> jorik: i'm just going to massively fail when i try to set up clamav and spamassassin
[01:01] <snnw> Billiard: Not that I can remember. But I'm quite sure .gnupg/ and .ssh/ should be present.
[01:01] <Billiard> ikus060: i have no idea really, but he already said index, :)
[01:01] <squircle> ikus060: a glossary lists the word definitions, an index is a list with page references
[01:01] <jorik> squircle: thats done in postfix, should be alright
[01:02] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: what's the acstaul issue?
[01:02] <squircle> jorik: at least i know where to come for help :)
[01:02] <Billiard> snnw: well, try to make some files there, unmount it, see if the files disappear, mount it, see if the files are there again
[01:02] <ikus060> squircle, ok .. then it's an index.  Anybody know a good tool to create this kind of index ?
[01:02] <Bolvadur2> spydon: think not. just use static ips and keep a list with ips and paths to shared directories
[01:03] <ikus060> I've try OpenOffice, but it doesn't seems to have this functionality
[01:03] <ProfOak> sebsebseb: Well I never had anything like this in previous installs. Sure, fullscreen flash is kinda slow sometimes, but my problem is that for half the flash videos/games/whatever I can't use my mouse to interact with the flash. (ie press the pause button on youtube)
[01:03] <snnw> Billiard: When I try to create a file (.profile), I get permission denied.
[01:03] <effigy> am i terrible at google or is there no ubuntu software for downloading mp3s like soulseek for windows?
[01:03] <Flare183> ikus060: It does I've used it before I just don't know exactly how to do it again.
[01:03] <jorik> effigy: soulseek is for linux
[01:03] <sebsebseb> ikus060: There's KOffice and Abiword as well by the way
[01:03] <spydon> Bolvadur2: too bad, do you know if there is a standard share created somewhere when you install the nfsserver?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> ikus060: and for spreadsheets so not what you want to do, but  Gnumeric
[01:03] <glue> does synaptic steal the lock on dpkg even if its not in the act of installing something
[01:04] <Billiard> snnw: you dont have write access, you can try to create it with sudo, just to see if its actually getting mounted
[01:04] <Billiard> glue: yes i think so
[01:04] <kbp> could anyone using ubuntu 904 please check that php5-curl repo is broken?
[01:04] <Bolvadur2> spydon: by default no. as it would create security risk :)
[01:04] <effigy> jorik: really?  i only saw the windows exe on their download page
[01:04] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: ok that's in FIrefox?
[01:04] <spydon> Bolvadur2: good :)
[01:04] <ikus060> sebsebseb, thanks, but I don't think spreedsheets will solve my problem here ..
[01:04] <sebsebseb> ikus060: that was the second thing
[01:05] <Flare183> effigy: I'm pretty sure its in the repos
[01:05] <ProfOak> sebsebseb: Good point, I haven't tried it with anything else. Yes it is in firefox.
[01:05] <Bolvadur2> spydon: you only need to change (install) exports and fstab, that's it
[01:05] <sebsebseb> ikus060: the first thing  was two programs,  that you could use for your index
[01:05] <Orphee> i wanna learn about about linux how it works and how can i modify it any1 knows any good guides online?
[01:05] <snnw> Billiard: Hmm, when I try to umount (`ecryptfs-umount-private`), I get a message saying "Sessions still open, not unmounting".
[01:05] <sebsebseb> ikus060: I wanted to mention Abiword and Gnumeric together, since they go together
[01:05] <ikus060> sebsebseb, yeah .. I know .. I will look into it .. maybe the creation of index is easier using Koffice
[01:05] <sebsebseb> ikus060: ,but you don't have to have both installed etc
[01:05] <Billiard> snnw: are you inside the directory? your current directory is?
[01:05] <ZaNeIuM> where is the network maniger applet located, it no longer runs on my taskbar
[01:06] <sebsebseb> ikus060: or Abiword yeah
[01:06] <ikus060> or Abiword .. :)
[01:06] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: from my expereince with FLash
[01:06] <Bolvadur2> installing the xfce4 metapackage atm :)
[01:06] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: on Ubuntu,  but not your issue
[01:06] <ProfOak> sebsebseb: Getting opera to test it, but any advice until then?
[01:06] <snnw> Billiard: running pwd I get /home/snnw/. This is within a chroot in /mnt/jaunty/.
[01:06] <Flare183> !newusers | Orphee
[01:07] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: Flash gets issues in Firefox sometimes, but works fine in Epiphany and Galeon and so on
[01:07] <effigy> Flare183: oh okay, i'll keep searching then
[01:07] <Billiard> snnw: you cant unmount a directory which you are currently inside
[01:07] <sebsebseb> ProfOak: sudo apt-get install  epiphany-browser if you just put eiphany you get a game
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !browsers | ProfOak
[01:08] <Orphee> thanks guys it was really bugging me that i did not know anything about how an os works:)
[01:08] <ProfOak> sebsebseb but epiph is based off the same engine as ffox?
[01:08] <Flare183> effigy: http://faq.slsknet.org/index.php?action=artikel&cat=1&id=4&artlang=en
[01:08] <sebsebseb> !new |  Orphee
[01:08] <sebsebseb> Orphee: Ubuntu Pocket Guide as well :)
[01:08] <snnw> Billiard: Ah, good point.
[01:08] <ratatim> Can someone tell me why I can't find the .iso image in the directory it is in when using unetbootin on 8.04?
[01:08] <Orphee> i got the links thanks :)
[01:09] <noonee> t
[01:09] <snnw> Billiard: Although, after `cd ..` and `ecryptfs-umount-private`, I still get "Session still open, not unmounting".
[01:09] <sebsebseb> Orphee: oh the links were already done, but the guided wasn't
[01:09] <effigy> Flare183: thank you :x
[01:09] <Flare183> sebsebseb: Nah, I got it it before you
[01:09] <Flare183> effigy: Np
[01:09] <puff> How do I set up a lexmark S 1625 network printer?
[01:10] <Flare183> to it*
[01:10] <squircle> !lexmark | puff
[01:10] <Orphee> i got it thanks
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Flare183: yeah I missed it,  but  looked at stuff that I missed,  things got a tiny bit more busy in here, than a little while ago,  enough busy to miss things
[01:10] <boss_mc> sebsebseb: Bolvadur2: Huzzah! Installing gnome-mixer let me unmute the input and now it works again!
[01:10] <glue> are there any webapps that let you buy a beer for someone over the internet
[01:10] <Flare183> sebsebseb: That's true.
[01:10] <JPSman> why is there no man page for set?
[01:10] <sebsebseb> boss_mc: ok good
[01:11] <Flare183> !ot | glue (o.O)
[01:11] <jrib> JPSman: it's a shell built-in, try "help set"
[01:11] <ratatim> ﻿Can someone tell me why I can't find the .iso image in the directory it is in when using unetbootin on 8.04?
[01:11] <squircle> !patience | ratatim
[01:11] <glue> well the reason i'm wondering is because there are a few people in this channel that i'd like to buy a beer for helping me
[01:11] <ratatim> squircle: sorry haha
[01:12] <Billiard> snnw: you are completely out of the directory? and no files are open inside of it?
[01:12] <jrib> !cookie | glue
[01:12] <squircle> it's alright, i'm looking in to it :)
[01:12] <sebsebseb> jrib: that's meant to be to the helpers
[01:12] <ratatim> squircle: thanks :)
[01:12] <squircle> glue: send them some $ over paypal?
[01:12] <Bolvadur2> boss_mc: thanks for letting me know
[01:13] <squircle> ratatim: are you having trouble locating the iso image to download for ubuntu? or... have i got your question completely wrong?
[01:14] <ratatim> squircle: i have the .iso downloaded. when i try to make a boot up flash drive with unetbootin it's nowhere to be found. Even when i'm staring at it on my desktop
[01:14] <snnw> Billiard: Yes
[01:14] <ratatim> squircle: should i redownload it?
[01:14] <squircle> ratatim: you mean the image you downloaded magically disappeared/
[01:14] <glue> ratatim: it's on your desktop?
[01:14] <glue> ls -l ~/Desktop
[01:14] <ratatim> squircle: Unetbootin can't find it. it's still there
[01:15] <squircle> ratatim: aah
[01:15] <ratatim> glue: yes it's on my desktop. that's where i downloaded it to
[01:15] <glue> this is just a shot in the dark, but what are the permissions on it
[01:15] <ratatim> glue: haha beats me. i don't know command worth a dang
[01:15] <korogiannos> 2 questions.  How can I have a (not the windows, another) ntfs partition mount automatically on boot (with the icon on desktop too) 2nd can I hide certain files/directories? eg "pagefile.sys" "$RECYCLE.BIN" "System Volume Information"?
[01:15] <squircle> ratatim: ls -l ~/Desktop
[01:16] <ratatim> squircle: should i enter that command or what? haha
[01:16] <squircle> !fstab | korogiannos
[01:16] <squircle> ratatim: yep :) go into the terminal and enter that
[01:16] <squircle> korogiannos: that answers the first part... the second part is a bit tricker, and I don't know the answer
[01:16] <snnw> Billiard: If it helps, I seem to remember "Sessions still open, not unmounting" comes up when logging out of a VT, while still logged onto GDM or a different VT.
[01:17] <karthik> is GOS still popular ?
[01:17] <korogiannos> squircle: That's enough to get me started. Thanks
[01:17] <ratatim> squircle: It says command not found
[01:17] <ratatim> i copy and pasted what you put
[01:17] <squircle> ratatim: ls (LS) <space> <dash>l (L) ~/Desktop <enter>
[01:17] <snnw> Billiard: Actually, I just confirmed that.
[01:17] <isonoooooo> $B!!(B
[01:17] <noisecontrol> online to help out with basics :)
[01:17] <squircle> ratatim: ls -l ~/Desktop
[01:18] <Flare183> isonoooooo: ????
[01:18] <ratatim> squircle: ok now what? haha i got it right that time
[01:19] <benc1> how do I kill a process?
[01:19] <Flare183> benc1: kill
[01:19] <ratatim> It shows the .iso on there
[01:19] <JPSman> benc1: kill -9 pid
[01:19] <JPSman> benc1: where pid is the processes ID
[01:19] <benc1> JPSman: thanks
[01:19] <ZaNeIuM> oddworld
[01:19] <benc1> JPSman: what is -9
[01:19] <Flare183> ZaNeIuM: ?????
[01:19] <noisecontrol> JPSman - also - if you want to process kill a process by name - all copies of it
[01:19] <noisecontrol> pkill process
[01:19] <hRb> kill dash 9
[01:19] <hRb> no more CPU time
[01:19] <squircle> ratatim: it should say something like -rwxr-xr-x 123 ratatim users
[01:20] <Bilge> kill -9 -1
[01:20] <squircle> ratatim: does it say -rwxr-xr-x?
[01:20] <ZaNeIuM> Flare183?
[01:20] <ratatim> squircle: it says: -rw-r--r-- 1 swedishfish swedishfish 730662912 2009-11-30 11:47 ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:20] <Flare183> ZaNeIuM: oddworld?
[01:20] <hRb> Kill-9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
[01:20] <squircle> ratatim: that's the problem
[01:20] <ratatim> squircle: haha what is?
[01:20] <benc1> JPSman: I'm using: 'sudo kill -9 beam.smp'
[01:20] <ZaNeIuM> oh that works for most missing applets
[01:21] <squircle> ratatim: it can't read the file 'cause it doesn't have the permissions lol
[01:21] <gOLDfeesh> Hey I have a sound problem. Ubuntu Karmic 64 Bit, and I have pulse audio. For some reason my sound applet is gone too
[01:21] <benc1> JPSman: and getting: 'ERROR: garbage process ID "beam.smp".'
[01:21] <JPSman> benc1: is is beamp.smp's process id?
[01:21] <Dougdoug4> Hi
[01:21] <squircle> ratatim: type chmod -v 755 ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i316.iso
[01:21] <squircle> !hi | Dougdoug4
[01:21] <plitter> is there a way of making scfigure come in at a specific point? i've tried with \begin{SCfigure}[][h!], H, h, and still it comes above my section headline
[01:21] <ratatim> squircle: ok
[01:21] <Dougdoug4> How come Ubuntu 9.10 is called Karmic Koala
[01:21] <JPSman> benc1: run ps aux | grep beam
[01:21] <squircle> ratatim: it should say "changed mode of file to -rwxr-xr-x"
[01:22] <Dougdoug4> I mean, Ubuntu 9.04 was Jaunty Jackalope.. what changed lol
[01:22] <ratatim> squircle: it says this: chmod: cannot access `ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i316.iso': No such file or directory
[01:22] <ratatim> failed to change mode of `ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i316.iso' to 3704 (rwx--Sr-T)
[01:22] <squircle> Dougdoug4: A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-I-J-K-L
[01:22] <Dougdoug4> No I mean
[01:22] <Dougdoug4> Why did they change it from upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[01:22] <squircle> ratatim: right, sorry... stick sudo in front of that (sudo chmod -v blah blah)
[01:22] <JPSman> benc1: that should tell you the process ID of anything called beam
[01:22] <benc1> JPSman: I'm getting a long command as a result
[01:22] <Dougdoug4> was ubuntu 8.10 Jaunty Jackalope?
[01:23] <usser> Dougdoug4, not sure what you mean, every 6 months is a new release, no 8.10 was intrepid ibex
[01:23] <ratatim> squircle: haha okie dokie
[01:23] <Flare183> Dougdoug4: Because Ubuntu is a on a 6 month release cycle
[01:23] <squircle> Dougdoug4: 9.04 was jaunty
[01:23] <benc1> JPSman: got it. thanks
[01:23] <gOLDfeesh> Dougdoug4, that was 9.04
[01:23] <Dougdoug4> hm....... ok
[01:23] <gOLDfeesh> 8.10 = intrepid
[01:23] <Dougdoug4> what are they going to name ubnutu 10.4
[01:23] <Flare183> !lucid | Dougdoug4
[01:23] <ratatim> squircle: it's still saying the same thing
[01:23] <JPSman> hRb: what????  kill -9 lol
[01:23] <squircle> ratatim: it asked you for your password and everything?
[01:23] <Dougdoug4> what about
[01:23] <Dougdoug4> ubuntu
[01:24] <Dougdoug4> 10.10
[01:24] <squircle> !enter | Dougdoug4
[01:24] <ratatim> squircle: yes it did
[01:24] <squircle> ratatim: wow, i'm an idiot
[01:24] <ratatim> squircle: no you aren't haha
[01:24] <hRb> JPSman, good old nerdcore
[01:24] <squircle> ratatim: sudo chmod -v 755 ~/Desktop/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:24] <hRb> :]
[01:24] <squircle> ratatim: (i got the directory wrong :) )
[01:24]  * squircle is just a lil' special
[01:25] <jimmy51_>  howdy.  i want to do some quick and dirty 3d CAD.  what app should i use?
[01:25] <jimmy51_> !cad
[01:25] <Flare183> jimmy51_: QCAD
[01:25] <ratatim> squircle: here is what i got: mode of `/home/swedishfish/Desktop/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
[01:26] <squircle> !opinion | jimmy51_
[01:26] <squircle> ratatim: try again in unetbootin
[01:26] <squircle> ratatim: should work now
[01:26] <ratatim> squircle: will do
[01:26] <jimmy51_> Flare183: hmm... i thought qcad was 2d only.  i'll check again
[01:26] <Flare183> jimmy51_: oops
[01:26] <Flare183> jimmy51_: Blender is 3D
[01:26]  * Flare183 is sorry
[01:26] <Dougdoug4> !ubuntu 10.10
[01:27] <Dougdoug4> !ubuntu 10.4
[01:27] <Dougdoug4> grrr
[01:27] <Flare183> Did the bot just die?
[01:27] <Flare183> !ping
[01:27] <Flare183> Good
[01:27] <ratatim> squircle: still nothing. when i search for it i can either choose "computer" or "root" root contains "desktop" and there is nothing to be found
[01:27] <get_a_clue> is there a document that i could read, where once i was finished reading this document, i would no longer be a retarded linux user, and instead would be mediocre or mediocre++
[01:28] <squircle> ratatim: root, i'm assuming is /root, which is root's home directory. click "computer" and navigate to /home/yourusername/Desktop/
[01:28] <kostkon> get_a_clue, nope
[01:28] <squircle> get_a_clue: if you find one, let us know!
[01:28] <ratatim> squircle: ok i'll give that a shot
[01:28] <greezmunkey> better than There you are, brain the size of a pea, pinging me!"
[01:28] <get_a_clue> kostkon: so i should just keep coming here to ask my dumb questions?
[01:29] <kostkon> get_a_clue, yeeapp
[01:29] <jimmy51_> Flare183: i'll install blender and check it out
[01:29] <Flare183> jimmy51_: Alright
[01:29] <squircle> get_a_clue: we're very loving people
[01:29] <ratatim> squircle: when i click on "computer" it only shows the filesystem directory. is it somewhere in there?
[01:29] <get_a_clue> ok, well, good to know
[01:29] <squircle> ratatim: there should be a folder called "home", and then one with your username, and then one called Desktop
[01:29] <Flare183> get_a_clue: All you have to do is ask :P
[01:30] <ratatim> squircle: found it!!!! haha i feel silly
[01:30] <Flare183> ratatim: Nice one XD
[01:30] <squircle> ratatim: it's ok, so do I; I didn't even ask that question in the first place!
[01:30] <delltaco> ch
[01:30] <squircle> ratatim: glad it worked out though :D
[01:30] <ratatim> squircle: thank you so much! lets hope nothing else goes wrong
[01:31] <squircle> ratatim: if it does, you'll know where to come :)
[01:31] <ratatim> squircle: haha yeah. i tried doing this on a windows machine and it kept freezing while trying to extract and copy files... the computer labs here on campus blow
[01:32] <Flare183> ratatim: Get your own computer ftw
[01:32] <squircle> ratatim: oh, the fun times i've had with netbootin.... (sarcasm, sarcasm)
[01:32] <justcop> dpkg --configure -a fixed my problems, can someone please explain to me what exactly that did?
[01:34] <ratatim> squircle: with the usb boot creator on 8.10 i won't need netbootin again
[01:34] <squircle> ratatim: that's the beauty of it
[01:34] <benc1> can I ping a server locally?
[01:34] <Flare183> benc1: Yes
[01:34] <Blue1> benc1: ping <servernamegoeshere?
[01:34] <korogiannos> squircle: care to walk me through adding "/dev/sdb2 on /media/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)" to fstab (and later sharing it on a windows network) either that or some way to set up remote access to this machine.  I'm a little "elsewhere" at the moment and am leaving the country for a while.  I need to set this up for my brother and his wife before I leave (or remotely, soon)
[01:34] <Flare183> benc1: ping localhost
[01:34] <ZehavaZM> I have installed ubuntu studio, all of my sound works properly accept for hydrogen so far.  Any hints what to check next?
[01:35]  * Blue1 resists smarminess
[01:36] <squircle> korogiannos: sure, can we do it via PM?
[01:36] <benc1> is it just keep pinging?
[01:36] <Flare183> benc1: yup
[01:36] <Flare183> benc1: until you press control+c
[01:36] <benc1> cool :)
[01:36] <korogiannos> squircle: That would be much appreciated
[01:40] <Ububegin> how to check what graphic card I am using
[01:40] <Flare183> Ububegin: lspci
[01:40] <Flare183> Ububegin: on the terminal
[01:40] <gbramwell> Is there a way to manhandle 9.10 into generating a grub.cfg file?
[01:40] <madcheeze> hey does any one have a suggestion on a resource monitor that runs in full transparency?
[01:41] <Flare183> madcheeze: gkrellim Might
[01:41] <Ububegin> Flare183: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7187
[01:41] <Ububegin> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7" ... I got this
[01:41] <con-man> why does my numpad not work even though the light is on?
[01:41] <madcheeze> Flare183, not a gkrellm fan. ive used that one, and i didnt really like it
[01:41] <madcheeze> Flare183, any other one?
[01:41] <Flare183> Ububegin: I don't what to tell yeah
[01:42] <Flare183> madcheeze: Um screenlets I think has a applet that will let you
[01:42] <madcheeze> screenlets? ok i will check it out..
[01:42] <madcheeze> Flare183, thanks!
[01:42] <Ububegin> Flare183: Hmm, do i have install some driver...
[01:42] <Flare183> Ububegin: jockey-gtk
[01:42] <Ububegin> !jockey-gtk
[01:43] <Flare183> !info jocket-gtk | Ububegin
[01:43] <Flare183> !info jockey-gtk | Ububegin
[01:44] <Flare183> yyz: Connection problems?
[01:45] <snnw> Billiard: Are you still here?
[01:45] <yyz> Flare183: sorry about that, I was finishing up a script for bitlbee and just testing it out.
[01:45] <Flare183> yyz: Ahh ok
[01:45] <Flare183> yyz: No problem
[01:46] <Billiard> snnw: im here now
[01:46] <KurtKraut> I need someone running Ubuntu 64 bits to install the package fping. It seems this package is properly installed in 32 bits but not in 64 bits (suid missing). Could anyone help me?
[01:47] <snnw> Billiard: Are you still helping me on the ecryptfs problem?
[01:47] <Billiard> snnw: did you get it unmounted?
[01:47] <kevin147> Hey Flare183.
[01:47] <snnw> Billiard: no.
[01:47] <plitter> is there a way to force scfigure to come under a section heading?
[01:47] <Billiard> snnw: what was the error message again?
[01:48] <snnw> Billiard: "Sessions still open, not unmounting"
[01:48] <snnw> Billiard: I mentioned this above: If it helps, I seem to remember "Sessions still open, not unmounting" comes up when logging out of a VT, while still logged onto GDM or a different VT.
[01:49] <andresmh> my built in webcam stopped working in cheese and in other apps that have access to it
[01:50] <andresmh> should i submit a bug using ubuntu-bug cheese?
[01:50] <Billiard> snnw: are you accessing that mounted directory in any VT right now?
[01:50] <Flare183> andresmh: That's a good idea
[01:51] <snnw> Billiard: No. Isn't there a command to check which files are open?
[01:51] <Billiard> snnw: lsof
[01:51] <ChogyDan1> andresmh: it stopped working in all apps?
[01:51] <puff> I  tried to use System/Administration/Printing/New to add a new printer, selected LPD, entered the IP address, clicked "probe", now that gnome dialog is hung, doesn't redraw, been like that for 20-30 minutes now.
[01:53] <brova> does anyone know the name of the mac osx for linux skin name? i used to have it but my hdd died :'(
[01:53] <brova> im talking about the one that actually LOOKS EXACTLY like osx and not similira
[01:53] <snnw> Billiard: lsof /home/snnw/ from chroot returns a warning about /home/snnw/.gvfs, but no open files.
[01:53] <andresmh> ChogyDan, I think so. I have another app that uses the webcam but it's a not very common app. Is there another popular app I should try?
[01:54] <brova> found it
[01:54] <snnw> Billiard: From outside of the chroot, no files listed.
[01:54] <brova> its called mac4Lin if anyone was curious
[01:54] <ChogyDan1> andresmh: gstreamer-properties
[01:54] <plitter> brova: aww, was just going to give u this http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[01:55] <benc1> I have a failed dns cached on my ubuntu server. How do I clear it from the cache?
[01:55] <andresmh> ChogyDan1, It worked. It opened up a huge window with the live stream from my webcam
[01:55] <brova> plitter: much appreaciated anyways though :D
[01:56] <brova> plitter: my linux teacher called me a hacker when he saw me running it LOL
[01:56] <ChogyDan1> andresmh: try something random for me:  change the resolution in gstreamer
[01:56] <Plugh> I have a desktop and laptop both running Karmic. They are both working ok but the desktop doesn't play the sound when its ready for a user to log in and it won't show a users face file image. Any ideas why these two things don't work on the desktop?
[01:56] <puff> I suppose I could check netstat and kill the process that's trying to connect to the printer's IP address.
[01:56] <andresmh> I don't see where to change the resolution ChogyDan1
[01:56] <plitter> brova: hehehe, you should milk the situation and ask him if he wants help getting it;)
[01:57] <gemilang> need help,  i have download java for linux. how to install it?
[01:57] <brova> plitter: actually i asked him if he knew what backtrack 4 was :D LOL
[01:57] <ChogyDan1> gemilang: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:57] <brova> plitter: day 1 he yelled at me for logging in as root using sudo. he thinks im the devil, im sure of it
[01:58] <Skyturnred> lol the security @ my school is soo weak...
[01:58] <hou5ton> Is there a difference between the Open Source Edition of Sun VirtualBox in Synaptic, and the Sun VirtualBox on the Sun website?
[01:58] <Skyturnred> i wish they used linux not windows
[01:58] <ChogyDan1> andresmh: Edit > Preferences > resolution
[01:59] <plitter> brova: your lucky you have a linux teacher, wish i had one:P
[01:59] <jrib> hou5ton: ose doesn't let you use usb
[01:59] <Billiard> hou5ton: there is an open source and non opensource version in the repos, non opensource has some more features
[01:59] <Plugh> hou5ton: The one on the Sun web site might be newer but you would have to check version numbers
[01:59] <Hodapp> hou5ton: OSE lacks the USB passthrough and maybe the VRDP server.
[01:59] <andresmh> ChogyDan1, oh, cheese now works even without changing resolution. Is as if just testing the webcam with gstream-properties fixed it.
[01:59] <snnw> Billiard: I just got ecryptfs-umount-private to not return any errors. (I forgot about dev, proc and sys bind mounts...) But '.profile', which I created earlier, didn't disappear.
[02:00] <brova> plitter: im taking a college course though where my entire career will be linux in the future. computer systems anaylst
[02:00] <gemilang> ChogyDan1, appear gemilang@gemilang-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:00] <gemilang> Reading package lists... Done
[02:00] <gemilang> Building dependency tree
[02:00] <gemilang> Reading state information... Done
[02:00] <gemilang> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[02:00] <FloodBot4> gemilang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <Billiard> snnw: ok, so it wanst really mounted there afterall?
[02:00] <hou5ton> so ... it seems like I should get the non opensource version ... and ... do I need usb passthrough???
[02:00] <lumpki> :off topic: where can I find a channel to discuss politics?
[02:00] <gemilang> Ok sorry
[02:00] <roddog> has joined
[02:00] <ChogyDan1> gemilang: make sure you have multiverse enabled
[02:00] <snnw> Billiard: apparently not.
[02:01] <ChogyDan1> lumpki: ##politics
[02:01] <Rajasun> gemilang: enable your multiverse repository to install sun-java6-plugin
[02:01] <Plugh> lumpki: /join ##politics
[02:01] <tehloki_> sebsebseb: update, decided to go with wubi under win7
[02:01] <gemilang> how to enable?
[02:01] <tehloki_> works like a freakin charm
[02:01] <andresmh>  
[02:01] <Hodapp> lumpki: ##politics, if you want to discuss it with tinfoil hat wearers, violent racists, and Internet libertarians that are so stupid you want to cry and then go back in time and kill Ayn Rand.
[02:01] <nztal> i have a ati video card.  i'm using the latest fglrx driver for it from the ati site.  when i open gnometris the part of the window that should be the game background, as a mirror of that which was behind it on the desktop, the frame is drawn ok, but the game area, isn't.  anyone know how i can fix this ?
[02:02] <Skyturnred> lol i restarted ubuntu about 3 times in a row completely bewildered why it kept freezing... my mouse was unplugged
[02:02] <hou5ton> Billiard:  will the non opensouce let me use USB?
[02:02] <ZaNeIuM> i got two appets that no longer load up when i start the computer
[02:02] <lumpki> Hodapp: hmmm, maybe i'll just try wikipedia
[02:02] <ZaNeIuM> there both set in the start up, but they still no longer start up
[02:02] <plitter> brova: nice:) doing physics and would like to be able to write my own programs for the stuff i figure out, seems to take a while to learn though:P
[02:03] <ZaNeIuM> anyone have any ideas
[02:03] <Skyturnred> does anyone know of any programs to help you memorize stuff, like poems?
[02:03] <Rajasun> gemilang: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then append multiverse to the official repo deb line like this: deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe multiverse
[02:03] <andresmh> How can I bring XChat back to the foreground after it has been iconified into the system tray?
[02:03] <Billiard> hou5ton: yes it will
[02:03] <Skyturnred> i have to memorize a poem for english but i absolutely SUCK at memorizing. i even tried the stacking strategy
[02:04] <greezmunkey> ZaNeIuM: did you try to run them manually?
[02:04] <Billiard> andresmh: click it?
[02:04] <gemilang> Ok will try right now
[02:04] <ZaNeIuM> greezmunkey: yes, they do run manually
[02:04] <andresmh> Billiard, oops, let me rephrase my question:
[02:04] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: You could remove and reinstall the applets and see if it outputs a message saying why they won't start (ie. file name or location changed, or dependency is not installed or is out-of-date)
[02:04] <andresmh> How can I bring XChat back to the foreground, using a keyboard shortcut, after it has been iconified into the system tray?
[02:04] <Rajasun> gemilang: then afterwards, run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[02:04] <ZaNeIuM> but when i reboot there not there again
[02:04] <benc1> can I clear the local DNS cache without restarting anything?
[02:05] <Ububegin> Under the resolution setting, i cant set my ubuntu to widescreen resolution... But can i just edit xorg.conf and enter in the resolution values...
[02:05] <sumeetbali> SodaPhish_, you online?
[02:05] <benc1> I have a bad dns entry that was updated and I need it to be reflected
[02:05] <hou5ton> Billiard:  ah ... the nonopensource version isn't in Synaptic .... so ... I need to figure out how to get it from Sun, I guess?
[02:06] <Billiard> hou5ton: its in the package manager, you might have to add the multiverse or universe repo, not sure
[02:06] <ChogyDan> hou5ton: just go to the download on the website
[02:07] <Billiard> hou5ton: im pretty sure its in the repos, but you can get it from their site too
[02:07] <ZaNeIuM> Plugh: i just removed the volume controll indicator, but how do i now add it.... :S where the heck is it?
[02:08] <Ramraid> Ububegin: Do you have resolutions  in your xorg.conf to comment if you do then yes
[02:08] <Jack21> hey does anyone use vlc on the new ubuntu?
[02:08] <Jack21> 9.10
[02:08] <plitter> is there a way to force a section to come on the top of the page in latex? or a way to make my scfigure go under the section headline? i've tried with \begin{SCfigure}[][h!], H and h
[02:08] <plitter> Jack21: i have it installed, why?
[02:09] <Jack21> my laptops screen fades , even when playing movies in vlc
[02:09] <ybeddyj> Jack21, i do
[02:09] <ybeddyj> same here
[02:09] <greezmunkey> benc1, unless you install it there is nothing in Ubuntu that caches dns
[02:09] <Jack21> i mean it fades normally , but i am sure its not supposed to happen during vlc playback
[02:09] <madcheeze> Jack21, you have power options, and you need to turn off the one that fades the screen.
[02:09] <ybeddyj> vlc doesnt seem to interface with the power management
[02:10] <Jack21> damm that sucks that i have to do it manually everytime
[02:10] <snnw> Billiard: my wifi is a bit flaky today, did you receive my last message?
[02:10] <kostkon> Jack21, you can try caffeine
[02:10] <Jack21> so no real automatic solution then ?
[02:10] <Billiard> snnw: i dont think so
[02:10] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: Right click panel, Add to panel...   It should be in the list
[02:10] <ybeddyj> madcheeze, media players should auto change power management during playback
[02:10] <Jack21> yea that stuff usually keeps me going when i am tired
[02:10] <ViridianFire> so is it true that there is a problem with wireless in 9.10?
[02:10] <snnw> Billiard: apparently not, I said.
[02:10] <kostkon> Jack21, https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[02:10] <kostkon> Jack21, nice app
[02:10] <Jack21> ok cool thanks
[02:11] <Billiard> snnw: yea i got that
[02:11] <ZaNeIuM> Plugh: i tryed that a long time ago its wasnt there
[02:11] <Jack21> what is caffeine for ?
[02:11] <gemilang> Rajasun, after appear source list then?
[02:11] <kostkon> Jack21, check the url i gave you. all the info is there
[02:11] <ZaNeIuM> there is no volume controll or network manger
[02:11] <Jack21> oh cool thas just what i need thanks
[02:12] <madcheeze> ybeddyj, i thought that was a setting you had to setup inside of vlc...
[02:12] <Jack21> can i install directly from synaptic manager?
[02:12] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: network manager is "NetworkManager Applet"
[02:12] <Billiard> snnw: are you using encryptfs source and destination with the same directory?
[02:12] <Rajasun> gemilang: check to see what u have for your official Ubuntu repo deb line...do u see things like karmic main restricted universe multiverse
[02:12] <Guest11918> Hi, I'm having problems with a Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS installation using Wubi on XP
[02:12] <Jack21> madcheeze , i tried looking for a setting but cant find it
[02:12] <ZaNeIuM> i know its not in my list
[02:12] <kostkon> Jack21, no, either download the deb or add the ppa and then install it using synaptic
[02:12] <Jack21> kostkon ok cool
[02:12] <madcheeze> Jack21, let me see on mine
[02:12] <hou5ton> Billiard:  ChogyDan  ... got it from the site ... they had it all ready to go for all the different versions of Ubuntu
[02:12] <thief> is there any hex editor that let me open /dev/sad1, read-only is enough, and search for something? I lost a file.
[02:13] <johnzorn> ubuntu wants 4gigs of free space on / to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. I can't free up that much space is there anything I can do to get it to upgrade in pieces instead or maybe something else?
[02:13] <gemilang> Rajasun, nope
[02:13] <ViridianFire> so can anyone help me with wireless? I can't connect
[02:13] <ZaNeIuM> its not in the pannles but it was in the startup untill i removed it
[02:13] <ChogyDan> johnzorn: hmm, sudo apt-get clean?
[02:13] <gemilang> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
[02:13] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: Add custom item? What I see running here is "nm-applet" and "gnome-volume-control-applet"
[02:14] <Jack21> btw , the new ubuntu software centre is cool . but some monkeys left out a basic download speed display , and a time left thinggy maybe
[02:14] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: Those are what I see from ps aux
[02:14] <greezmunkey> thief, dd may be your only choice there, but I couldn't tell you how...
[02:15] <madcheeze> i definitely like the software download thing. i think they got that from the android market type idea..
[02:15] <madcheeze> i like it whereever it came from
[02:15] <Plugh> Jack21: There are other "basic" things missing from Karmic. Program to select what sounds play for certain events, program to customize the gdm log in screen
[02:15] <ratatim> When in BIOS and trying to boot from USB drive should it be on top or can it be below the internal hdd?
[02:15] <greezmunkey> thief, and even if that would work, I doubt you could reconstruct your file...
[02:15] <madcheeze> Jack21, installing vlc really quick...
[02:15] <Guest11918> 8.04.1 LTS used to work, but no more. And because it was installed under Windows using Wubi and is not a separate hd partition, I can't stick in a CD and reboot.
[02:15] <Rajasun> gemilang: for everyone's sanity, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list -> replace all in that file with http://pastebin.com/f17923def
[02:16] <thief> greezmunkey, I probably can, it fits on 4k
[02:16] <Jack21> madcheeze what do you mean ?
[02:16] <thief> greezmunkey, I see if I can do something with dd, thanks
[02:16] <Jack21> Plugh:why did all this stuff get left out ?
[02:16] <Skyturnred> possible to clone a drive in 10 minutes?
[02:16] <Plugh> Jack21, I'm not the one to ask.
[02:16] <Rajasun> gemilang: then run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[02:16] <gemilang> Rajasun, can i using software package manager to install java?
[02:16] <Jack21> hmm maybe the log in screen changed a lot?? it looks quite advanced
[02:17] <Billiard> Skyturnred: how big of a drive?
[02:17] <Jack21> though my old log in screen was amazing
[02:17] <Jack21> it was a red background
[02:17] <Skyturnred> umm... about 100 gigs only
[02:17] <Jack21> with a woman
[02:17] <tsunami> hey, i restarted a server that i primarily use vnc with but vnc doesn't get activated until after someone logs on.  Is there a way i can kick vnc off via an ssh connecton??
[02:17] <Plugh> Login screen doesn't look that different other than graphics.
[02:17] <Billiard> Skyturnred: i think it will be longer than 10 minutes, but idk
[02:17] <Plugh> But, I was using a different distro before that had much of that.
[02:17] <Jack21> naked :) ,, but really creative/arty/erotic ,, loved my log in screen , but have to say that in 9.10 the log in screen is actually good
[02:17] <Rajasun> gemilang: u can after adding the multiverse and while doing it also the restricted and universe repositories
[02:17] <Skyturnred> Billiard: k thanks
[02:18] <Rajasun> gemilang: and then sync your sources
[02:18] <gemilang> Rajasa, thank you. will try right now
[02:18] <ZaNeIuM> i removed the applet from the startup setting and now i want to readd it, but where are the applets located?
[02:18] <snnw1> Billiard: That was my internet completely dying...
[02:18] <Billiard> are you using a layover mount for encryptfs?
[02:19] <Billiard> snnw ^
[02:19] <Billiard> same source and destination directory
[02:19] <Rajasun> gemilang: no probs...just that I prefer commandline tools for package management needs that's all
[02:19] <jtisme> anyone have any experience with LG blu ray burners
[02:19] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: /usr/bin/nm-applet, /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control-applet
[02:20] <gemilang> Rajasun, after i save source list, then back to command line..... it works
[02:20] <ZaNeIuM> thanks i hope this works
[02:20] <Plugh> ZaNeIuM: good luck
[02:20] <Rajasun> gemilang: glad to hear
[02:20] <hou5ton> Billiard:  ChogyDan  ... hmmm ... I have VirtualBox installed .... but where is it?
[02:20] <snnw1> Billiard: I'm not sure. The jaunty installer (alternate cd) set this up. How can I determine if I'm using a layover mount?
[02:20] <gemilang> Rajasun, :)
[02:20] <Rajasun> :)
[02:20] <ChogyDan> hou5ton: reboot
[02:20] <hou5ton> ok
[02:20] <Rajasun> going off to grab a bite bbl
[02:20] <hou5ton> and I changed my group permissions to include it
[02:21] <Billiard> snnw1: is the mount in your fstab?
[02:21] <hou5ton> chogy
[02:21] <losha> jtisme: no, but I would expect them to look pretty much like all other burners as far as the OS is concerned...
[02:21] <hou5ton> ChogyDan:  ok
[02:21] <madcheeze> Jack21,
[02:21] <ChogyDan> hou5ton: really?  I thought the installer handled that
[02:21] <jtholmes> losha, thanks
[02:21] <madcheeze> Jack21, there is a bug
[02:21] <madcheeze> Jack21, hang on let me linky you
[02:22] <snnw> Billiard: No, it's not listed in fstab.
[02:22] <Billiard> snnw: mount it, and check mtab
[02:22] <snnw> Billiard: no mounts listed for /home/snnw/
[02:23] <madcheeze> Jack21, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/428884
[02:23] <Billiard> snnw: how do you mount the encryptfs?
[02:23] <snnw> Billiard: ecryptfs-mount-private. Oddly enough, it doesn't ask for a passphrase anymore. It did the first time.
[02:25] <gemilang> Rajasun, is that Okay even im using ubuntu 8.04, cause in http://pastebin.com/f17923def is for 8.10?
[02:25] <Billiard> snnw: whats the full command you use?
[02:25] <snnw> Billiard: just `ecryptfs-mount-private`
[02:25] <Billiard> snnw: ok, im not familiar with ..-mount-private
[02:26] <madcheeze> i didnt know that vlc would disable the power options... but it makes sense...
[02:27] <Rajasun> gemilang: damn!...replace all references from karmic to hardy
[02:27] <greezmunkey> l
[02:27] <hou5ton> Thanks to all who helped me get virtualbox installed.
[02:28] <gemilang> Rajasun, Ok
[02:28] <nigtv> Hi, I was wondering about printable/DIY ubuntu boxes like the kind you would get if you bought it, but google searches seem to be incredibly useless, as the only strings i can think of are "ubuntu box" and "ubuntu packaging", both of which obviously turn of totally irrelevant results in large numbers
[02:28] <ChogyDan> hou5ton: yw
[02:28] <AkaM80TheWolf> Hey guys.  I just installed Ubuntu Server 9.10 onto an old Dual PIII server onto a 9GB SCSI drive.  The install goes perfectly fine, but upon reboot, server will not boot, says no OS found.  I confirmed that my bios is set to boot from that SCSI drive.  I've searched but haven't come up with any answers.  Thanks.
[02:28] <snnw> Billiard: According to /home/snnw/README.txt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/332067/
[02:28] <nigtv> if anyone knows if this has been done or not it would be greatly appreciated
[02:28] <mgmuscari> for future reference, how do i figure out what display my X session is running on so that i can save it when my window manager crashes.... i tried localhost:0.6 and xxx:0.6 where xxx is my hostname, but no dice trying metacity --replace --display= from a TTY
[02:28] <ChogyDan> nigtv: you want it preinstalled?
[02:28] <andresmh> Is there a way to trigger with the keyboard the equivalent of clicking on a system tray icon?
[02:29] <nigtv> ChogyDan: i mean like you can buy ubuntu in the store, and it comes in an official package, with graphics and such, I was wondering there is a way to print those out, or something like that
[02:29] <nigtv> so i can essentially make my own packages that resemble the official ones
[02:29] <Rajasun> gemilang: if u r to use the official repos i.e. for updating your install and installation of new apps, changing all mention from karmic to hardy in that sources.list from pastebin wil be fine...just double check to see the rest have hardy repos e.g. gstreamer
[02:30] <nigtv> mainly, I just want the official images, it doesnt have to be in the context of making your own package fo rit
[02:30] <nigtv> for it*
[02:30] <Billiard> snnw: the command doesnt give any error?
[02:30] <ChogyDan> nigtv: one sec, I may have something
[02:30] <nigtv> thank you
[02:30] <gemilang> rajasun, will see now. thank
[02:30] <snnw> Billiard: no, no output whatsoever.
[02:30] <nigtv> also, if there is a place to buy JUST the packaging material
[02:31] <nigtv> but that seems unlikely
[02:31] <ChogyDan> nigtv: here we go: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
[02:31] <nigtv> ty
[02:31] <Billiard> snnw: do you have a directory, ~/Private
[02:31] <Rajasun> gemilang: np...excuse me while I finish up on my meal
[02:31] <snnw> Billiard: no
[02:31] <ratatim> When I boot from a USB drive to upgrade linux, the USB drive isn't on top of the HDD and shit on the BIOS menu. I heard that it needs to be for a proper install. What do I do?
[02:31] <nigtv> ratatim: language :/
[02:32] <hri> how to hide the volumes in ubuntu
[02:32] <ChogyDan> ratatim: you are booting from a usb to do an upgrade?  Are you doing a clean install?
[02:32] <nigtv> ChogyDan: `this is perfect thank you
[02:32] <ChogyDan> yw
[02:32] <Billiard> snnw: sorry, idk, dont know much about encryptfs-mount-private
[02:32] <nigtv> hri: you can unmount them
[02:32] <AkaM80TheWolf> How do I boot to a SCSI drive installation?
[02:32] <hri> nigtv: i want to totally hide it from computer
[02:32] <jadams> I have a hauppage pvr-150 plugged in.  I can see it in lspci (Internext iTVC16, MPEG-2 encoder).  However, /dev/video[0,1,25,33] are all just different modes on my webcam.  I don't see anything from the pvr in /dev.  Can someone help me debug it further?
[02:33] <ratatim> nigtv: english. haha
[02:33] <nigtv> hri: well if you dont want it to ever be used you could disconnect it, but if you want to use it sometimes, you can unmount it, and/or take it off of the automount list
[02:33] <ratatim> nigtv: is that what you meant?
[02:33] <snnw> Billiard: it appears to be a wrapper around mount.ecryptfs_private
[02:33] <nigtv> ratatim: no you cussed lol
[02:33] <axionix> anyone know how to change the colors of mutt's interface? i can only seem to change the colors of messages with muttrc
[02:33] <c0ld> What kind of coding is this \x16\x1C\xCD\x0A\x4A\xD4\xE1\x7F\xAC\x3D\x4B\x84\x1F\x3D\x9E?
[02:33] <nigtv> ah shoot where is the automount list
[02:33] <ratatim> nigtv: hahahaha oh i apologize. i'm a tad bit frustrated
[02:33] <hri> nigtv: i cant understand
[02:34] <ChogyDan> c0ld: hex?
[02:34] <axionix> c0ld: thats unicode
[02:34] <nigtv> hri: not an english speaker?
[02:34] <c0ld> ok thanx
[02:34] <rav> I just installed 9.10 , receiving "A hard disk may be failing" error as soon as it boots up. Never had an issue with the drive before, was recently running 8.04 on it.  Anyone know a fix for this ?
[02:35] <hri> nigtv: not that much
[02:35] <nigtv> If you do not want to have the volume show up on its own, you can tell ubuntu to unmount it, uhm
[02:36] <leaf-sheep> rav: The fix? Get a new hard drive.  Also, run a smart checking on your drive.
[02:36] <nigtv> hard to describe
[02:36] <hri> nigtv: after unmount it will be shown in the computer i want to not shown in the computer also
[02:36] <nigtv> hri: you could just unplug it?
[02:36] <rav> leaf-sheep, run a smart checking?
[02:36] <hri> nigtv: thanks
[02:36] <linxeh> rav: S.M.A.R.T.
[02:37] <nigtv> argh
[02:37] <leaf-sheep> rav: Let me find you the package.
[02:37] <nigtv> i think he was talking about in thunar
[02:37] <nigtv> oh well
[02:37] <linxeh> install smartmontools
[02:37] <nigtv> lol
[02:37] <ZaNeIuM> lotsa wierd happenings in linux-ubuntu, is this normal for linux in general?
[02:37] <rav> thanks
[02:37] <linxeh> smartctl -a /dev/sda
[02:37] <linxeh> or whatever
[02:38] <leaf-sheep> rav: gnome-disk-utility for GUI. :o
[02:38] <rav> leaf-sheep,  thanks, i'll give it a shot
[02:38] <ZaNeIuM> one day i have sound, the next day i no longer have the icon
[02:38] <ZaNeIuM> kind of frustration, esp when all you know is windows
[02:39] <leaf-sheep> rav: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[02:39] <elspeth> i'm trying to upgrade from jaunty to karmic, I seem to have a problem
[02:39] <elspeth> no desktop after restart ... i'm stuck in terminals.
[02:39] <rav> excellent
[02:39] <leaf-sheep> rav: You only need to do the command, not adding script for shutdown or email.
[02:39] <elspeth> where should i be looking for error messages?
[02:39] <snnw> Billiard: When I run, /sbin/umount.ecryptfs_private || echo $?, it returns '1'. No error messages though..
[02:40] <rav> alright
[02:40] <snnw> Billiard: Is there someone else who could help me further with ecryptfs and the associated tools?
[02:41] <elspeth> apt-get upgrade complains about deskbar-applet while unpacking libdeskbar-tracker
[02:41] <ChogyDan> elspeth: can you post the errors?
[02:41] <elspeth> ChogyDan: um. how does one copy and paste from a terminal again? I can't remember, it's been a while
[02:42] <ChogyDan> elspeth: what is the main complaint?
[02:42] <elspeth> ChogyDan: no x windows.
[02:42] <elspeth> well, that's the complaint i have.
[02:42] <Jack21> madcheeze: hm in the link it says its an ubuntu bug ,, not vlc ,, but who knows ,, caffeine works as a temp solution
[02:42] <ChogyDan> elspeth: missing dependency?
[02:42] <Ben64> whats up? why am i getting only 5000B/s from synaptic?
[02:43] <c0ld> Ok how would I go about decrypting this \x16\x1C\xCD\
[02:43] <elspeth> other than that, running apt-get upgrade gives "trying to overwrite /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet which is also in package deskbar-applet"
[02:43] <ChogyDan> elspeth: you should rename that file
[02:44] <elspeth> before it exits with "errors were encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeskbar-tracker ..."
[02:44] <elspeth> ChogyDan: to deskbar-applet.old or similar?
[02:44] <ChogyDan> elspeth: it always says that if you get an error.    yeah
[02:45] <elspeth> oh, goodgood. lemme give that a go.
[02:45] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I made it
[02:45] <ShawnRisk> nice
[02:46] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to setup a WPA wireless network connection in Ubuntu 9.10, but not sure how to do this.  Any ideas?
[02:46] <elspeth> ChogyDan: well, that fixed that problem ... now dist-upgrade is barfing.
[02:47] <ShawnRisk> mdg: want to try again?
[02:47] <elspeth> ChogyDan: "couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-core for openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, probably a dependency cycle."
[02:47] <elspeth> ChogyDan: anything i can do other than apt-get remove on openoffice?
[02:48] <elspeth> sorry to be a pain, i'd just like to get my system back to something a little more usable :/
[02:48] <ChogyDan> elspeth: maybe remove -binfilter
[02:48] <mdg> ShawnRisk: what we know so far is that you are using WPA now and when you try to access your network you are asked for a password and get into a loop right?
[02:48] <elspeth> hm
[02:48] <shane2peru> ok, my laptop is running hot all the time, does anyone else have this issue with koala?  I have Radeon HD 3100 ATI graphics card, any thoughts??
[02:48] <ShawnRisk> mdg: right
[02:49] <elspeth> ChogyDan: thanks! dist-upgrade is now going
[02:49] <elspeth> sorry to be so clueless.
[02:49] <mdg> ShawnRisk: no matter what password you use, you just keep getting asked for a password right?
[02:49] <ChogyDan> elspeth: clueless?  you arent doing that bad
[02:49] <ShawnRisk> right
[02:50] <mdg> Does anyone know if 9.10 (I dont' use it yet) asks for a keyring password first when setting up a network?
[02:50] <shane2peru> no ATI people out there?  or no overheating going on?
[02:51] <shane2peru> let's try this angle, anyone running Ubuntu on with ATI graphics card (Radeon)??
[02:51] <elspeth> ChogyDan: maybe it's a side-effect of spending a week around some very clueful people ...
[02:51] <usser> shane2peru, ati has a tool for clocking down/up the video card for linux
[02:51] <ChogyDan> elspeth: hehe, I see  :)
[02:51] <shane2peru> usser, ahh, there we go, ok, do you know the name of that?
[02:51] <dotblank> hey is it possible to swap the shift and control keys?
[02:51] <Epamek> Can anyone help me with getting my wireless et up on my newly-installed macbook w/ koala?
[02:51] <mdg> Does anyone know if there are changes in network setup in 9.10?
[02:51] <shane2peru> usser, this laptop has been the pits with Ubuntu/Linux in general since I bought it
[02:52] <pol-ar> hello
[02:52] <Epamek> It only displays wired connections in networkmanager and doesn
[02:52] <ShawnRisk> mdg: no one knows
[02:52] <Epamek> t detect any missing or uninstalled drivers (or any drivers at all) in hardware manager
[02:53] <mdg> ShawnRisk: perhaps we can find something in the ubuntu wiki
[02:53] <ShawnRisk> ok
[02:53] <Plugh> Epamek: What wifi device is in your laptop?
[02:53] <ctmjr> jadams: you sure it does not show up in /dev/video if the drivers get loaded that is where it will be if it has digital tuner then it will be in the dvb folder also
[02:53] <mdg> I think I lost use of my pageup/down keys ....
[02:54] <usser> shane2peru, hang on lemme see what its called.
[02:54] <tacosbellos> Needing help with a ATIVA digital photo frame, does anybody own one in here?
[02:54] <shane2peru> usser, I searched the repos, and didn't seem to find anything
[02:55] <mdg> ShawnRisk: as soon my updates have run, I will check out the networking forum on ubuntuforums
[02:56] <ShawnRisk> mdg: ok
[02:56] <luomo1> Hey, I can not connect to my modem through LAN connection on Ubuntu 9.10.
[02:57] <AwaDoV> hello everybody
[02:57] <AwaDoV> i have a problem .. Can anyone help ?
[02:57] <DaZ> nope
[02:57] <Plugh> AwaDoV: Not until you state the problem.
[02:57] <KB1JWQ> !ask | AwaDoV
[02:57] <mdg> ShawnRisk: maybe you can help luomol while we are waiting
[02:58] <javatexan> hey guys and gals
[02:58] <ShawnRisk> ok
[02:58] <dabadoo> hehe this is a first
[02:58] <AwaDoV> i can't view full screen in youtube ?
[02:58] <ShawnRisk> luomo1: what have you tried?
[02:58] <dabadoo> im using gftp (x) and i connect to the remote site fine.. but i cant connect to my local directory??? WTF
[02:58] <bxrdj> adadow - what browser?
[02:58] <DaZ> AwaDoV: are you asking us?
[02:59] <AwaDoV> yead DaZ
[02:59] <AwaDoV> yea
[02:59] <javatexan> would it be a better idea to go back to a 32bit install of ubuntu?  from time to time I have trouble getting things to work properly....why is it taking so long for apps to migrate over to 64bit.  LOL...
[02:59] <DaZ> you can't.
[02:59] <AwaDoV> yeah
[02:59] <pilif12p> whats the init file?
[03:00] <UnNaturalHigh> has anyone here used the kernel PPA?
[03:00] <ChogyDan> UnNaturalHigh: which ppa?
[03:00] <mdg> ShawnRisk: I'm off to ubuntuforums...
[03:00] <luomo1> ShawnRisk:I have my network card of broadcom b43xx seris. So i cant connect to my wifi. So i thought initially it is better to connect through lan but i cant connect with that also.I have done iwconfig
[03:00] <ShawnRisk> mdg: ok
[03:00] <UnNaturalHigh> ChogyDan, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:01] <pilif12p> i was told to ask about it from #httpd
[03:01] <AwaDoV> hey DaZ are you here ?
[03:01] <ChogyDan> UnNaturalHigh: neat
[03:01] <DaZ> i'm not
[03:01] <iOmlette> luomo1: Which b43xx chip do you have?
[03:02] <UnNaturalHigh> luomo1, chances are you just need to download the firmware for your card and you will be good to go
[03:02] <AwaDoV> oh you are Amazing to answer while you aren't here :D
[03:02] <luomo1> BCM4311
[03:02] <pilif12p> anyone?
[03:02] <ShawnRisk> same as me
[03:02] <iOmlette> Yup, that one is supported.
[03:02] <Plugh> pilif12p: Need more context to answer that question. Init file for what?
[03:02] <ShawnRisk> luomo1: I have the same
[03:02] <iOmlette> I'd suggest linuxwireless.org for information.
[03:03] <pilif12p> Plugh: i dunno. they just told me to edit it to get apache to start up on boot
[03:03] <luomo1> from where i have to download the firmware and how to install.
[03:03] <iOmlette> www.linuxwireless.org.
[03:03] <UnNaturalHigh> luomo1, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#device_firmware
[03:03] <Plugh> pilif12p: /etc/init.d has the startup files.
[03:03] <iOmlette> Installation instructions should be at the site, too.
[03:03] <pilif12p> ok
[03:04] <Plugh> pilif12p: you can also use chkconfig to see what will start on boot
[03:04] <pilif12p> ok
[03:04] <Plugh> pilif12p: chkconfig --list
[03:04] <UnNaturalHigh> luomo1, look to the part that says "You are using the b43 driver from linux-2.6.25 or newer"
[03:04] <AwaDoV> i can't view full screen in youtube.com ... can you help guys ?
[03:04] <Plugh> luomo1: I have one of those in my laptop. I found some info about setting it up. let me see what I can find.
[03:04] <Ben64> AwaDoV: get a faster computer? :S
[03:05] <AwaDoV> :D
[03:05] <Bolvadur2> if I compile a kernel do I get the headers as well or do I need to compile them also?
[03:05] <Ben64> AwaDoV: what cpu you have?
[03:06] <Plugh> luomo1: IIRC, there was a utility I used to get the firmware. something to do with bm43-fwcutter I think.
[03:06] <AwaDoV> celeron 2.8
[03:06] <ShawnRisk> Plugh: I got that and it works, but when I connect to the network I want, the internet doesn't work
[03:06] <jadams> ctmjr, apparently the drivers didn't get loaded then.  How could I tell?  I read the PVR150 works out of the box in karmic, and I no longer have to install ivtv...is that true?
[03:08] <luomo1> Plugh: is that utility available already in Ubuntu or i have to download that
[03:08] <Plugh> ShawnRisk: Its working great on my laptop. Once I installed the firmware files (which I had previously grabbed while trying to use Fedora on the machine), Ubuntu recognized the hardware, asked me if I wanted to use the proprietary drivers, and I was running in no time.
[03:08] <ctmjr> jadams: from what i understand you are correct it is supported  you might install ivtv-utils
[03:08] <ShawnRisk> Plugh: me too but nothing is working for me
[03:09] <Plugh> jadams, ivtv-utils has the extra bits to do some of the channel changing. My PVR-150 is working fine. i have heard there can be different, and non-supported, boards that label themselves as PVR-150. Not sure now true that might still be.
[03:09] <nemo> killall pulseaudio;vlc
[03:09] <nemo> only way to get vlc to play DVDs without stuttering
[03:09] <ShawnRisk> mdg: any luck?
[03:09]  * nemo sighs
[03:10] <mdg> ShawnRisk: all I am seeing under networking wireless forum - not seeing anything about a password loop
[03:10] <wahben> hi all
[03:10] <wahben> I have a clean Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 install and DVD playback is very jerky
[03:10] <mdg> ShawnRisk: some are using b43-fwcutter and some are using bcmwl
[03:10] <travis> I like dogs
[03:11] <ShawnRisk> mdg: I am connected but can't get on internet
[03:11] <nemo> wahben: using vlc? :-/
[03:11] <greezmunkey> Guest55587, I'm sure they like you too.
[03:11] <wahben> DVD Player is connected with IDE cable, computer has 1 gb of ram, 64 mb graphic card ram, why is DVD playbaclk so jerky?
[03:11] <mdg> ShawnRisk: not sure what the problem could be
[03:11] <wahben> nemo, I have tried VLC / mplayer  with XV / GL outpt
[03:11] <wahben> played around with cache, nothing seems to do it
[03:12] <ShawnRisk> does anyone else?
[03:12] <mdg> ShawnRisk: can you connect and disconnect at will?
[03:12] <nemo> wahben: does mplayer play smoothly if you use -ao null ?
[03:12] <Hillshum> Is there a good way to find what package provides a certain file?
[03:12] <Plugh> luomo1: Might be a separate package but I was using Fedora at the time I ran the tool to obtain the needed firmware files
[03:12] <_csmith> hi, i have a question about netboot - I can't seem to stop it from installing x11, cups and a bunch of desktop junk - is there any way to only get it to install the "base" system?
[03:12] <MaXubuntu> hello guys
[03:12] <nemo> wahben: also. what graphics card model?
[03:13] <racecar56> my computer won't load the 9.10 live cd, it goes into an infinite loop of blackscreening and then popping up the loading bar screen, and loops
[03:13] <_csmith> i'm currently going through an "expert" install at the moment... just wondering if that'll help things?
[03:13] <ShawnRisk> mdg: no
[03:13] <racecar56> what's wrong
[03:13] <racecar56> MaXubuntu: hi
[03:13] <Plugh> ShawnRisk: Have you configured your Wifi link with the needed settings (ssid, password, type of link - wpa/wep/...)?
[03:13] <nemo> racecar56: tried disabling acpi/apic on boot menu?
[03:13] <wahben> nemo: it's onboard... let me find out what graphical card
[03:13] <racecar56> nemo: let me try that.
[03:13] <nemo> racecar56: also maybe "only free software"
[03:13] <racecar56> nemo: k
[03:13] <nemo> racecar56: all 3 should be options in boot menu
[03:13] <mdg> is there a karmic koala wiki?
[03:13] <racecar56> nemo: i'll go check it out
[03:13] <nemo> wahben: lemme know about -ao null - maybe it is the program I love to hate
[03:14] <ShawnRisk> Plugh: yes
[03:14] <wahben> nemo: graphic card is onboard radeon according to lspci
[03:14] <nemo> wahben: ah. ATI
[03:14] <nemo> wahben: ok. using fglrx?
[03:14] <Plugh> ShawnRisk, and you are seeing the device under Network Connections?
[03:14] <wahben> nemo, not sure about that... is that a package I should install?
[03:15] <ShawnRisk> Plugh: which devices?
[03:15] <nemo> wahben: probably
[03:15] <nemo> wahben: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[03:15] <Oddbio> Is there an easy way to test different versions of a program. For instance, I reported a but with Wine, using wine version 1.0.1, and someone asked me to test with version 1.1.33. Could I get version 1.1.33 seperately? Or should I just update to it, and then is there a way to revert back to 1.0.1 if I find 1.1.33 unstable??
[03:15] <Plugh> ShawnRisk, System -> Preferences -> Network Connections
[03:16] <nemo> Oddbio: well. you could enable the winehq repo
[03:16] <wahben> nemo: how to I skip to the middle of a film with mplayer - cli? I need to test later than generic...
[03:16] <nemo> Oddbio: then, disable it
[03:16] <nemo> Oddbio: in any case yes, you can revert in synaptic package manager
[03:16] <mdg> ShawnRisk: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/faq-keyring.html
[03:16] <nemo> wahben: -ss 5:00
[03:16] <nemo> wahben: seeks to 5 minutes
[03:16] <wahben> thanks
[03:17]  * pilif12p waves to nemo
[03:17] <Oddbio> nemo: if I dissable it, that will go back to wine 1.0.1 that ubuntu currently uses? I didn't think it would be that simple
[03:17] <greezmunkey> Oddbio, you could alwas install VirtualBox, and a fresh ubuntu VM, then test all you want.
[03:17] <MaXubuntu> hey guys u guys know command for nickserv to resend your  registration e-mail?
[03:17] <mdg> luomo1: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/modem-connect.html
[03:17] <nemo> Oddbio: no. but it is almost that simple
[03:17] <wahben> nemo, still jerky aith -ao null
[03:17] <nemo> Oddbio: just go to the package in synaptic and install it
[03:17] <pilif12p> MaXubuntu: Try #freenode
[03:17] <wahben> nemo, ill try to install fglrx.... see if it fixes something
[03:17] <nemo> wahben: yeah. I suspect is just you need graphics accel
[03:17] <nemo> wahben: on plus side, you'll get compiz too.
[03:18] <wahben> nemo, makes sense, because it has trouble rendering GTK actually...
[03:18] <venger> what will happen at the end of the support window on intrepid?  will the repos vaporize or will they still be there to rust over for some time aftwards?
[03:18] <wahben> ill try that and be back if need is be :-) thanks for your help. peace
[03:18] <nemo> venger: you should still be able to install the packages, they just won't get patched for compromises
[03:19]  * nemo waves back to pilif12p 
[03:20] <_csmith> Is there a way for me to install ubuntu-server via netboot?
[03:20] <Carborane> the floodbots are fighting for dominance?
[03:20] <_csmith> everything i try it starts to pull down x11 and all that junk
[03:20] <Hillshum> I'm having an issue with checkgmail, I get http://paste2.org/p/541428
[03:20] <mdg> ShawnRisk: here's a link to troubleshooting wireless:  https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html - you might want to work through each step, even though they don't all apply to you
[03:21] <Plugh> Regarding bm43 and WiFi --> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:21] <Carborane> So there's the menu at System -> Preferences -> Sound, is there a way to change those options through the console?
[03:22] <jseattle> wmmoonclock
[03:23] <nemo> Carborane: 9.04?
[03:23] <gbear14275> I don't seem to be able to uncompress a .7z file... anyone got any pointers?
[03:23] <Carborane> nemo: aye
[03:23] <nemo> Carborane: alsamixer
[03:24] <nemo> gbear14275: 7z
[03:24] <nemo> gbear14275: should be prompted for package. is in repos
[03:24] <gbear14275> yeah... nemo dl'ed all the 7z stuff from synaptic but no go
[03:24] <nemo> gbear14275: ... 7z x filename
[03:25] <gbear14275> its the new tomato firmware 1.27... anyone else having problems with it?
[03:25] <ShawnRisk> I am going to give up
[03:25] <jseattle> tunapie
[03:26] <Plugh> ShawnRisk: Is your router configured to only accept connections from certain MAC addresses?
[03:27] <thoyne> zz
[03:28] <Plugh> ShawnRisk, Also check the log files of the WiFi router for messages to see if it is seeing an attempt by your WiFi device to connect
[03:28] <nemo> ShawnRisk: are you having issues connecting to your wifi?
[03:28] <nemo> ShawnRisk: one question - does your password have an ' in it?
[03:28] <nemo> (wifi passphrase)
[03:28] <ShawnRisk> nemo: nope
[03:28] <nemo> oh well.
[03:29] <ShawnRisk> I am giving up forget, I can't use ubuntu it is driving me nuts
[03:29] <ShawnRisk> all I need to do is connect to the internet and it is not leetting me in
[03:29] <racecar56> nemo: it seems it doesn't make a difference
[03:29] <racecar56> nemo: :(
[03:29] <nevets04> What is that bar with info in it called in irc. I.E in here it's: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | FAQ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Karmic is released! http://www.ubuntu.com/download & http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910
[03:30] <nevets04> woah sorry, dint know it was so long
[03:30] <nemo> racecar56: you're not using one of the beta CDs are you?
[03:30] <racecar56> nemo: no
[03:30] <venger> nevets04, /topic
[03:30] <ShawnRisk> if someone could help help me, I would be so much happy, I want to get this done today
[03:30] <nevets04> Thanks
[03:30] <Plugh> ShawnRisk: If you have the drivers installed and Ubuntu is seeing the device, its all a matter of configuration. Check the router to see if it has logged a connection attempt from the mac address of your wifi device.
[03:30] <racecar56> nemo: it's a 9.10 cd
[03:30] <nemo> racecar56: well. if 9.04 boots, you could install that and upgrade from that
[03:30] <racecar56> nemo: i'll try it.
[03:30] <nemo> ShawnRisk: I thought you said you'd given up. That disinclined me to even think about it further :-p
[03:31] <Plugh> Its time to go play with the cat. bbl.
[03:31] <ShawnRisk> :P
[03:31] <ShawnRisk> I was joking :P
[03:31] <racecar56> xD
[03:31] <nemo> ShawnRisk: how was I to know? or even care? channel is noisy enough without nonsense
[03:31] <MaXlMuS> hello guys
[03:31] <itilious> anyone here know some easy to use video capture software for a linux noob ? :)
[03:31] <nemo> ShawnRisk: anyway. using ubuntu 9.10 default?
[03:31] <ShawnRisk> nemo:  true
[03:31] <ShawnRisk> 9.10 default
[03:31] <MaXlMuS> bunch of linux noobs like me here makes me feel at home
[03:32] <MaXlMuS> tlol
[03:32] <nemo> ShawnRisk: can you show me the output from dmesg after an attempt to make a connection?
[03:32] <nemo> ShawnRisk: (pastebin it)
[03:32] <nemo> ShawnRisk: (dmesg is on the commandline)
[03:32] <nemo> itilious: video capture - you mean for recording your desktop?
[03:32] <nemo> itilious: or recording from video in on a card?
[03:33] <itilious> nemo, the latter
[03:33] <itilious> i'm using the leadtek 2000xp rm
[03:33] <itilious> ican see the video input just fine with TVtime, just can't find an easy enough application to be able to capture it in ubuntu
[03:33] <sezotove> anyone know how to make a bootable winXP flash drive?
[03:33] <Doonz> hey is it possble to mount say /dev/sdb1 to multiple folders?
[03:33] <nemo> itilious: not something I'm terribly familiar with, but try searching synaptic for v4l or video4linux packages?
[03:33] <nemo> itilious: just a thought
[03:34] <nemo> Doonz: I'm pretty sure that's a yes, is possible to mount something in multiple locations...
[03:34] <nemo> Doonz: I have a distinct recollection of reading, then trying that :)
[03:34] <nemo> Doonz: just curious though - why would you do that?
[03:35] <nemo> sezotove: that's a ridiculously hard thing to do. I've looked into it :(
[03:35] <sezotove> is it?
[03:35] <nemo> sezotove: there are some writeups online, but it is non-trivial
[03:35] <sezotove> why is it so darned hard
[03:35] <nemo> sezotove: 1) is proprietary. 2) see (1)
[03:35] <nemo> sezotove: WinPE can supposedly be setup on USB though
[03:35] <sezotove> lol
[03:35] <nemo> but again, was a PITA
[03:35] <itilious> nemo, i can't even get vlc to recognize the card in capture mode
[03:35] <nemo> I was looking into it for work, decided I couldn't be bothered. not enough incentive
[03:36] <racecar56> nemo: i remember it couldn't boot 8.10, it went into an infinite black screen with the "spinning wait" cursing
[03:36] <tauren> I'm trying to install 9.10 server onto a system I've configured using the mobo's built-in Adaptec HW RAID1 to mirror 2 drives.
[03:36] <racecar56> nemo: *cursor
[03:36] <nemo> itilious: vlc would not have been my first choice, but ok :)
[03:36] <racecar56> nemo: O_o
[03:36] <sezotove> WinPE ill look at it
[03:36] <tauren> But when I get to partitioning disks, it tells me no root filesystem and errors out.
[03:36] <nemo> racecar56: you could get more info if you booted with the splash and quiet options removed
[03:36] <racecar56> nemo: anyway i'm trying 9.04 now
[03:36] <nemo> racecar56: do the noapic acpi=off at the same time...
[03:36] <ShawnRisk> nemo: pastebin.com/d380e3f9b
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: ohhhh
[03:37] <Doonz> nemo i have a 5tb raid 5 array that i would like to mount in /home/user/raidsets/array_1 and then from there have a directory structure  under /home/user/a
[03:37] <racecar56> nemo: 9.04 locked up the computer
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: I know where this is going :D :D
[03:37] <tauren> here's what i'm trying to do:  use mobo HW RAID1.
[03:37] <racecar56> nemo: and numlock wouldn't turn on
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: you know how those mobos claim to have HW raid?
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: it is A LIE
[03:37] <racecar56> nemo: now i'll try noapic acpi=off.
[03:37] <tauren> This is a Supermicro server board though
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: it is basically the RAID equivalent of winmodems :( :(
[03:37] <racecar56> nemo: with 9.04
[03:37] <tauren> Ubuntu detected Serial ATA RAID and asked if I wanted to use it.
[03:37] <nemo> tauren: if you say so. I have no familiarity apart from fact that several "server class" computers at work have that failing
[03:38] <nemo> tauren: ummm. hmmm. I'm still skeptical. but ok :)
[03:38] <tauren> ok, that's good to know
[03:38] <nemo> tauren: that's my tentative diagnostic
[03:38] <tauren> I've used software raid in the past with no issues
[03:38] <tauren> maybe i should just stick to that.
[03:38] <nemo> aye
[03:38] <nemo> tauren: that's what we ended up doing :D
[03:38] <nemo> tauren: hell, if the OS is going to do the heavy lifting *anyway*
[03:38] <Doonz> maybe im going about this wron
[03:38] <nemo> tauren: maybe I can find the article I was reading on this. one sec :D
[03:38] <tauren> nemo: so what's the best way to get mirroring and lvm set up?
[03:39] <tauren> i know how to do it in centos
[03:39] <Doonz> maybe i should mount dev/sdb1 _. /home/user/a home/user/b
[03:39] <tauren> but the ubuntu installer isn't as friendly
[03:39] <ShawnRisk> nemo: any ideas?
[03:39] <nemo> tauren: sorry, machine we setup that way was slack - no ubuntu familiarity on this front
[03:40] <sezotove> well how about this is there a way to make my flash drive be seen in a VM?
[03:40] <nemo> tauren: actually, I'm trying to remember why I stepped into this noisy channel. so many questions
[03:40] <Gnewt> Are there any differences between Ubuntu server/desktop other than the lack of desktop environment server-side?
[03:40] <tauren> nemo, ok.  i'll try to do software raid first i guess.
[03:40] <nemo> ShawnRisk: ... I'm still waiting for you to give me what I asked for
[03:40] <ShawnRisk> I did
[03:40] <Bolvadur2> I am going to compile the kernel but "make menuconfig" doesnt work. Am I doing it wrong?
[03:40] <nemo> ShawnRisk: ah. sorry. missed that.
[03:40] <nemo> ShawnRisk: understandable, I hope you realise :)
[03:40]  * nemo reads 
[03:40] <git__> hi nemo
[03:40] <ShawnRisk> yep
[03:41] <infidel2> when i type 'mount' it shows '//mypc/public on /mnt/mypc type cifs (rw,mand)' yet when i "ls /mnt/mypc" it says "cannot access /mnt/mypc: No such device or address". What gives? i have a line in my /etc/fstab for it: //mypc/public  /mnt/mypc cifs iocharset=utf8,credentials=/home/infid/.smbcredentials,uid=1000 0 0
[03:41] <johnson_b> sezotove: i run Vbox and i have folder i put symbloc links to things i want to share ... flash drive
[03:41] <racecar56> nemo: failure: it does the same ol' lockup
[03:41] <infidel2> and i can access it find with smb://mypc/Public
[03:41] <nemo> ShawnRisk: [ 2446.360046] wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:26:50:6c:81:59
[03:41] <nemo> [ 2446.560061] wlan0: authentication with AP 00:26:50:6c:81:59 timed out
[03:41] <nemo> ShawnRisk: my tentative diagnostic is that you have MAC filtering on the router
[03:41] <axisys> how do I install acroread and acroread plugin on 64bit karmic? apt-get find nothing
[03:41] <Zsoci> hi there! how is it possible to install ubuntu,with the base system only?
[03:41] <axisys> http://pastebin.com/d583c5da6
[03:42] <racecar56> Failrar? xD
[03:42] <nemo> ShawnRisk: I'm going back to what Plugh said - check your router logs
[03:42] <sezotove> johnson_b:How did u do that im running virtualBox as well
[03:42] <axisys> !pdf
[03:42] <mattcen> Gnewt: There are different packages available on the install media (CD/DVD), including (but not limited to) the desktop environment.
[03:42] <racecar56> nemo: i wonder why this is happening..
[03:42] <axisys> !adobe
[03:42] <nemo> racecar56: remove quiet and splash, enable acpi=off noapic
[03:42] <nemo> racecar56: then watch the boot
[03:42] <racecar56> nemo: will try
[03:42] <mattcen> Gnewt: I'm not sure of exactly what packages are different, but in any case, they both use the same repositories, so there's no problem installing them except the use of an internet connection
[03:43] <tauren> if i want to use software raid1 with lvm on top of it, is it still true that I need a small non-lvm partition for /boot?
[03:43] <axisys> !acroread
[03:43] <bradley> whats up guys
[03:43] <Sunrex> How do you add in a replacement hard drive for RAID1?
[03:43] <tauren> that was the case a number of years ago.
[03:43] <Sunrex> I re-synced, but it has no active partitions =/
[03:43] <Chico> Hiya
[03:43] <Chico> I need help installing software...
[03:43] <banisterfiend> hey guys, my accounts are being hacked how do i find out information about the person doing it? their ip address is 222.154.132.18   i would just liek to know what city they're from, because i have a feeling it's a friend of mine. Also perhaps what system he is running, just info i could use to figure out who this asshole is
[03:44] <ShawnRisk> nemo:  can you pm what you are saying?
[03:44] <sezotove> google the ip
[03:44] <nemo> ShawnRisk: I prefer you speak in-channel so other people can comment.  For one thing, my tolerance limit for this channel is fairly short
[03:44] <sezotove> it should give you a rough estimation
[03:44] <nemo> ShawnRisk: I'm about to go find something more fun to do like play Hedgewars
[03:44] <Sunrex> banisterfiend: google whois IP to find the provider, then mail/email the provider for further details.
[03:44] <Chico> Can anybody help me?
[03:44] <kaski> My internet is way slower in Ubuntu than in Windows, (I'm dual-booting) any suggestions?
[03:44] <johnson_b> sezotove: there a lot on web about it short and sweet is to open setting share machine folder and the open share from in vbox
[03:44] <ShawnRisk> nemo: I missed what you said as there is too much going on in the channel
[03:44] <mattcen> Chico: Which software are you trying to install, and which verson of Ubuntu are youy running?
[03:45] <bradley> kaski what browser are you using
[03:45] <Zsoci> is it possible to install ubuntu with the text only base system?
[03:45] <sezotove> Thanks Johnson
[03:45] <nemo> ShawnRisk: I used your name with everything I said. scroll back. it will be highlighted
[03:45] <Chico> I'm trying to install Sony Vegas Platinum 9. I'm on Xubuntu 9.10 or whatever the latest is.
[03:45] <kaski> bradley: its equally slow on firefox and epiphany
[03:45] <Sunrex> Why does nobody here know anything about RAID?
[03:45] <Sunrex> I've been asking for help for over half a week now with no solution and only TWO responses.
[03:45] <Chico> I have the latest (Not beta) Wine
[03:45] <Liverbones> Howdy, people.
[03:45] <nemo> Sunrex: ask tauren :)
[03:45] <kaski> Hello Liverbones
[03:45] <Sunrex> tauren: You know much about raid?
[03:45] <tauren> nemo:  haha!
[03:45] <Sunrex> assuming hes a person here :)
[03:46] <nemo> 22:42 < nemo> ShawnRisk: I'm going back to what Plugh said - check your router logs
[03:46] <mattcen> Chico: Ah so you want help with *wine*. That's a different story; I've never had much luck getting things working well on Wine.
[03:46] <Chico> Oh.
[03:46] <Chico> :/
[03:46] <Liverbones> I just have a quick question about Upstart jobs.
[03:46] <tauren> Sunrex: what do you need?  not sure i can help
[03:46] <Chico> I just wish they'd run these softwares. Why don't they?
[03:46] <mattcen> Chico: Does winehq say it's compatible with Sony Vegas?
[03:46] <Chico> Sort-of.
[03:46] <racecar56> nemo: ...it worked this time
[03:46] <nemo> racecar56: mm.
[03:46] <Chico> I looked it up on winehq and it said it's possible
[03:46] <racecar56> nemo: it's on the desktop now.
[03:46] <mattcen> Chico: because Sony can't be bothered supporting linux because (sadly) it's such a minority operating system
[03:46] <nemo> racecar56: well. maybe the issue was w/ the bootsplash :)
[03:46] <Liverbones> In order to remove a job from Upstart (say, usplash) could I simply rename the .conf file for it? Would that work, while keeping the file usable?
[03:46] <Chico> But it's confusing me and I couldn't get the first step done :s
[03:47] <peter> #python
[03:47] <racecar56> nemo: it "freezed" (but didn't lock up) for a while, maybe the bootsplash was off.
[03:47] <Sunrex> tauren: short explanation, I have a raid1 setup. I unplugged a hard disk to test redundancy, plugged it back in after booting and testing (shut down when plugged in) and it said degraded array, fine. Re-synced, worked. Rebooted. degraded again. I checked sfdisk, and its not partitioned!. What the heck.
[03:47] <racecar56> nemo: wait a minute i said that wrong
[03:47] <racecar56> lol i can too disappear
[03:47] <Chico> Does anybody know much about Google Chrome OS?
[03:47] <Sunrex> tauren: So I'm assuming I have to re-partition it... how would I go about doing this for a raid1 array?
[03:47] <Chico> Isn't it Linux based?
[03:47] <Major> settting up ubuntu 9.10 for blind friend. I got orca to start on startup, but all it reads is jubberish to her... Can't we have it set so it reads HTTP pages to her or something.  Please excuse my frustration.
[03:47] <banisterfiend> Chico: no but i know about you and i like you............alot
[03:48] <microlith> lol
[03:48] <Chico> :)
[03:48] <nemo> Chico: a wimpy linux live CD autodetect of HW + the chromium browser? :)
[03:48] <Chico> Alot is not a word.
[03:48] <Chico> It's a lot, silly.
[03:48] <nemo> Chico: including all of the chromium browser's bugs? :D
[03:48] <racecar56> nemo: it "froze" for a second doing something in the terminal and i think the bootsplash was disabled at the time, giving it the effect that the computer locked up. maybe it's because i added the boot parameters properly this time.
[03:48] <tauren> Sunrex: ahh, sorry i can't help you there...  i'm just trying to figure out how to install raid1
[03:48] <kaski> My internet is way slower in Ubuntu than in Windows, (I'm dual-booting) any suggestions?
[03:48] <tauren> Sunrex: onto 2 new drives in a new system
[03:48] <nemo> Chico: supposedly you can get to a shell on it and muck about, despite their not making it easy...
[03:48] <Chico> I just know that my friend despises Chrome OS.
[03:48] <racecar56> nemo: i don't know but i want to try 9.10 with the same trick again
[03:48] <nemo> aaand. that's all I know. it seems like a silly idea
[03:48] <Major> it would be cool to have orca read whatever is under the cursor or something
[03:48] <Gnewt> mattcen: Thanks! So, say I wanted a DNS/SMB/rTorrent/HTTP/Asterisk server that I could also admin with a monitor, I could use Ubuntu desktop for that?
[03:49] <racecar56> nemo: ...if it doesn't work, then i'll to the install 9.04 > upgrade to 9.10 trick.
[03:49] <slam_> anybody using 9.10 (karmic) as a guestOS in VirtualBox??
[03:49] <Sunrex> tauren: Software?. Centos?. Centos is easy, you can do it in the GUI :) heres a link: http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/linux/linux_software_raid.htm
[03:49] <Chico> Well, first of all, I'd be pirating this software :P
[03:49] <Chico> I'm not that good of a person.
[03:49] <kaski> Chico: thats never a good idea
[03:49] <tauren> Sunrex: yeah, I've done it many times in centos before
[03:49] <nemo> Chico: why pirating? I thought it was free
[03:49] <jongbergs> !hi
[03:49] <racecar56> arrr matey!
[03:49] <racecar56> lol.
[03:49] <Chico> Sony Vegas is expensive.
[03:49] <racecar56> i wouldn't say it's worth it
[03:49] <Chico> Well, the version I'm getting.
[03:49]  * racecar56 likes ubuntu just time
[03:49] <tauren> Sunrex: but trying to get raid1/lvm setup on a new system.
[03:49] <Sunrex> tauren: Yeah, thats what im using. I don't know why this isn't re-syncing properly
[03:49] <racecar56> *fine
[03:49] <kaski> There are lots of free alternatives to Sony vegas
[03:49] <FloodBot2> racecar56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <kaski> My internet is way slower in Ubuntu than in Windows, (I'm dual-booting) any suggestions?
[03:50]  * racecar56 likes ubuntu just fine
[03:50] <banisterfiend> Chico: wanna go get a coffee?
[03:50] <Chico> Nothing is going to be as good as Vegas.
[03:50] <Chico> Yesh, Starbucks.
[03:50] <Sunrex> tauren: its pissing me off since im going to be colocating with 4x500GB RAID10, and yeah.
[03:50] <tauren> Sunrex: if you're on centos, why don't you ask in another channel?
[03:50] <racecar56> kaski: is anything sucking your RAM?
[03:50] <Chico> I love white mocha lattes <3
[03:50] <kaski> Chico: If you we're pirating anyway, get Adobe Premiere :)
[03:50] <Sunrex> tauren: No support.
[03:50] <jongbergs> kaski: what free alternatives woudl you recommend?
[03:50] <regeya> piracy, eh?
[03:50] <Sunrex> tauren: I like ubuntu, but I can only use two distros for WHM/Cpanel.
[03:50] <nemo> Sunrex: so you join #ubuntu to complain about lack of responses here
[03:50] <kaski> racecar56: I doubt it, I have 4 gbs
[03:50] <Chico> I prefer Vegas, but I might get Premiere.
[03:50] <Chico> Is it supported?
[03:51] <ShawnRisk> nemo: I can't see the logs
[03:51] <kaski> jongbergs: you can check everywhere for free video editors, theres a gazillion
[03:51] <racecar56> kaski: lucky you. i have 2gb and it's speeding fast already, in fact on my old comp with 512MB it speeds
[03:51] <nemo> ShawnRisk: did you check to see if you are using mac filtering?
[03:51] <Sunrex> nemo: mdadm is the issue here :). it's used on both distros for software raid.
[03:51] <mattcen> Gnewt: Yes, potentially. Depending on the power of the system you're using, you may want to use a lighter environment (like XFCE or Fluxbox instead of Gnome; I use fluxbox on my server), but it'll work
[03:51] <tauren> Sunrex: there's a #linux-raid channel, but only 8 people in it.
[03:51] <racecar56> kaski: ...but it doesn't use ubuntu, it uses debian, but i'm trying to put ubuntu on it at the moment
[03:51] <kaski> racecar56: i think it has something to do with it getting a conflicting IP or something
[03:51] <nemo> BTW, I think #ubuntu should be fragmented into multiple support channels - desktop, graphics, audio, general linux noob etc.
[03:51] <Sunrex> tauren: Oh!. Thank you very much :)
[03:51] <jongbergs> kaski: does gazillion works like sony vegas?
[03:51] <Chico> What's gazillion?
[03:51] <racecar56> kaski: that *might* be possible, but unlikely.
[03:51] <kaski> jongbergs: if you know how to use it
[03:52] <Chico> I really hope it's going to be as good.
[03:52] <kaski> racecar56: also, i didnt have to set anything up for internet in ubuntu, it just fixed itself
[03:52] <Chico> Well... It won't.
[03:52] <Chico> Already know :| shit.
[03:52] <sezotove> Johnson you still here?
[03:52] <tauren> Sunrex: you can check on my blog
[03:52] <jongbergs> kaski: ok, thanks for the tip, i'll go search for it..hope it's available in the karmic repos
[03:52] <racecar56> kaski: that's fine.
[03:52] <tauren> Sunrex: I have some old posts about rebuilding an array
[03:52] <ShawnRisk> nemo:  I am using MAC Filtering
[03:52] <racecar56> kaski: my internet was auto-configured by ubuntu and it's fine
[03:53] <nemo> ShawnRisk: lol. so Plugh was right
[03:53] <tauren> Sunrex: blog.tauren.com
[03:53] <kaski> racecar56: I would mess around with the settings but im not sure where to begin
[03:53] <Chico> The fact that a LOT of the softwares I like aren't compatible with Linux makes me not want to use Linux.
[03:53] <Chico> :(
[03:53] <nemo> ShawnRisk: ifconfig | grep HWaddr  - verify that number is in list of allowed macs. if it isn't, add it and stop blaming linux
[03:53] <kaski> Chico: you have to find alternatives
[03:54] <kaski> racecar56: could giving ubuntu its own static ip help?
[03:54] <bradley> need help with getting wireless network to work on 9.10 please help????
[03:54] <nemo> ShawnRisk: BTW, MAC filtering is the most pointless security imaginable
[03:54] <tauren> Sunrex: See http://blog.tauren.com/2008/03/hard-drive-crash.html
[03:54] <nemo> ShawnRisk: utterly trivial to work around
[03:54] <khelvan> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but a program I downloaded (ps3mediaserver) came with some files but no installation instructions either in the file or on their site. It did come with an .sh file that appears to do some setup. Can someone tell me how I can run an .sh file? (It is a script, correct?)
[03:54] <racecar56> kaski: maybe.
[03:54] <nemo> ShawnRisk: takes even less work than cracking 40 bit WEP
[03:54] <banisterfiend> nemo: yeah, ppl running macs dont do much hacking anyway, it's mainly the unix/linux guys that do
[03:54] <racecar56> kaski: i think windows and ubuntu ARE using different IPs though. are they?
[03:54] <Chico> Why can't Ubuntu just run files that Windows can run without Wine?
[03:54] <kaski> khevlan: have yo tried double-clicking on it
[03:54] <racecar56> Chico: EXEs are from DOS, ubuntu is not DOS.
[03:54] <kaski> racecar56: probably
[03:55] <nemo> banisterfiend: my point is, if you are going to "secure" a network, this is a pointless timeconsuming operation that confuses your friends and does nothing to keep out enemies
[03:55] <Chico> Why can't they just make it DOS?
[03:55] <johnson_b> khelvan: you would want to chmod +x the .sh then ./filename.sh
[03:55] <nemo> banisterfiend: clearly it is confusing ShawnRisk (assuming that is the problem)
[03:55] <khelvan> kaski - I am using ssh to log into my server, I can't double-click it as I have no GUI
[03:55] <bradley> someone please help me with 9.10
[03:55] <racecar56> Chico: DOS is made by Microsoft and is copyrighted.
[03:55] <johnson_b> khelvan: may need to give it sudo when you run also not sure
[03:55] <racecar56> Chico: Ubuntu is free software.
[03:55] <banisterfiend> nemo: so mac filtering just blocks ppl running macosx from accessing your computer right?
[03:55] <khelvan> johnson_b, thanks, I will try that
[03:55] <kaski> khelvan: navigate to the directory the file is in and type sudo sh ./filename.sh
[03:55] <nemo> banisterfiend: you're joking right?
[03:55] <racecar56> Chico: Ubuntu is open-sourced, allowing anyone to be able to make Ubuntu better.
[03:55] <Liverbones> nemo: I hope they're joking. :P
[03:56] <racecar56> Chico: if DOS was open-sourced, they'd be able to make Ubuntu run DOS programs, i guess.
[03:56] <banisterfiend> nemo: no, y? and anyway, like i said ppl running macosx dont do much hacking anyway
[03:56] <racecar56> Chico: ...but it isn't open source.
[03:56] <nemo> banisterfiend: lol. my boss runs OSX exclusively
[03:56] <aintaer> Hey does anybody know what would cause a remount into ro mode?
[03:56] <kaski> racecar56: the sad part is the canonical store selling software
[03:56] <nemo> banisterfiend: well and linux on his servers
[03:56] <racecar56> Chico: and nor is Windows.
[03:56] <nemo> banisterfiend: and I assure you, he knows his way around the OSX commandline
[03:56] <racecar56> kaski: yep.
[03:56] <racecar56> kaski: you're right
[03:56] <nemo> banisterfiend: spoofing a mac is just as trivial under OSX as it is under linux
[03:56] <Liverbones> aintaer: possible disk corruption can cause it to mount read only
[03:56] <bradley> does anyone know how to get wireless connection working in 9.10
[03:57] <mattcen> Chico: Linux is not Windows, and the problem is that people expect it to be. Just like you can't run a lot of Windows programs on MacOS (though more developers are supporting it now), Linux is a completely different operating system.
[03:57] <aintaer> Like, mid-run though
[03:57] <banisterfiend> nemo: but osx IS a mac so they dont need to spoof anything
[03:57] <kaski> bradley: have you tried ubuntu support and google?
[03:57] <Liverbones> aintaer: If the disk starts getting corrupted or gets an error, it'll mount itself as read only to prevent further corruption
[03:57] <aintaer> Liverbones: I started up in rw but mid-run it went to ro
[03:57] <mattcen> Also there's always the FreeDOS project
[03:57] <aintaer> I see
[03:57] <Chico> Does anybody in here know about Puppy Linux?
[03:57] <nemo> banisterfiend: aaaaaah. ok. so this was all a convoluted joke. I hate you.
[03:57] <kaski> bradley: wireless fixes are plentiful
[03:57] <racecar56> Chico: mee.
[03:57] <Chico> I'm considering getting it.
[03:57] <Liverbones> Chico: I know a little
[03:57] <kaski> Puppy Linux?
[03:57] <Chico> But I'm too lazy to pay for those god damn cds.
[03:57] <racecar56> nemo: D: i tried the same boot parameters in the same order (i think) and it didn't work :( same problem, i'll try upgrade
[03:58] <Chico> The DVDrs.
[03:58] <racecar56> download 'em. :P
[03:58] <Liverbones> aintaer: Mid-run doing what? much reading and writing? did you run an fsck?
[03:58] <nemo> racecar56: um. wait. so this is *random* ?
[03:58] <racecar56> nemo: what do you mean
[03:58] <kaski> racecar56: if you already have the ubuntu iso can you tell wubi you have it so it doesnt have to torrent it?
[03:58] <Chico> Why is Wine so unstable?
[03:58] <nemo> racecar56: you say it fails to boot only part of the time? :)
[03:58] <racecar56> nemo: no.
[03:58] <nemo> racecar56: oh. thought you said you'd made it to the desktop once
[03:59] <nemo> Chico: because they are reverse engineering a massive quantity of code
[03:59] <nemo> Chico: with many undocumented behaviours
[03:59] <Chico> Oh.
[03:59] <Chico> :s
[03:59] <aintaer> Liverbones: I ran an fsck afterward and had fixed some things
[03:59] <Chico> Linux noob.
[03:59] <nemo> Chico: and one that it took microsoft decades to screw up
[03:59] <feed_me_seymour> If I wanted to create a redirect from http://servername/wiki to http://servername:8080, how would I go about doing this?>
[03:59] <racecar56> nemo: it seems 9.04 works (i have tried 6.06 and it works too)
[03:59] <nemo> Chico: similar to why MAPI support sucks in evolution - reverse engineering is a PITA
[03:59] <Chico> I hate Microsoft.
[03:59] <racecar56> nemo: i didn't just try 6.06, though
[03:59] <nemo> racecar56: aight.
[03:59] <nemo> racecar56: have fun. :)
[03:59] <racecar56> Chico: i hate them too.
[03:59] <Chico> I love Mac, though.
[04:00] <Chico> But until I'm rich, I'm not getting one :D
[04:00] <Liverbones> Macs are nice... used to have a Mini
[04:00] <racecar56> nemo: there's ONE problem
[04:00] <racecar56> nemo: my internet is slow.
[04:00] <nemo> heh. Macs are *nix, so I forgive them a lot, but Steve Jobs is an evil control freak
[04:00] <racecar56> nemo: 200kbps.
[04:00] <racecar56> nemo: sickening to do an upgrade.
[04:00] <Liverbones> nemo: Yes, he is :P
[04:00] <Chico> I have an iPhone, I'm basically wiping his ass.
[04:00] <nemo> Chico: lol. My SO completely stopped using her linux partition after I got her an iphone
[04:01] <Snausages> you can't get more control-freak than iphone
[04:01] <Chico> Lol
[04:01] <Chico> It's amazing...
[04:01] <Liverbones> aintaer: Unfortunately, all I know about the r/o issue is what I've dealt with myself; I ran a couple of fscks (once right after the problem, then later from a live CD) and it fixed itself
[04:01] <nemo> Chico: since if she wanted music on its new encrypted filesystem, she was going to use itunes.
[04:01] <bradley> dddd
[04:01] <aintaer> mmmm, thanks though
[04:01] <feed_me_seymour> If I wanted to create a redirect from http://servername/wiki to http://servername:8080, how would I go about doing this?>
[04:01] <Chico> I HATE iTunes so much.
[04:01] <Liverbones> Sorry :\
[04:01] <nemo> er. not encrypted filesystem, encrypted tunes database
[04:01] <racecar56> Chico: same
[04:01] <racecar56> Chico: i do not use it.
[04:01] <Chico> iTunes is the most stupid and stubborn software ever.
[04:02] <nemo> aaaanyway. enough fun hanging out with you party animals.
[04:02] <racecar56> Chico: i never want to again, ever.
[04:02]  * nemo retreats back to more quiet channels
[04:02] <racecar56> Chico: VLC FTW
[04:02] <Chico> iPhone is especially good if you jailbreak it.
[04:02] <aintaer> I have a droid eris
[04:02]  * racecar56 wishes ubuntu would stop being bad :(
[04:02] <aintaer> it's pretty <3
[04:02] <ossa> I have a dual boot HD with a damaged GRUB.   Now I can't boot anything.  I followed 5 or 6 help pages on the web, but nothing works.  I can't get the grub loaded again.  Can anyone help?
[04:03] <Chico> I don't get the whole GRUB thing...
[04:03] <racecar56> Chico: it's a bootloader.
[04:03] <Chico> That's why I couldn't install Puppy Linux.
[04:03] <mattblanc> what the f...
[04:03] <Chico> You can say fuck.
[04:03] <racecar56> !ohmy
[04:03] <mattblanc> yeah?
[04:03] <Chico> It's not Club Penguin...
[04:03] <ShawnRisk> nemo and Plugh thanks
[04:03] <mattblanc> f word is allowed?
[04:04] <racecar56> Chico: yeah, it isn't, but if ubottu doesn't want us to...
[04:04] <SultansElephant> it's supposed to be family friendly (hint: don't let your kids on IRC)
[04:04]  * Chico shrugs
[04:04] <Chico> Don't have kids :P just a teenager.
[04:04] <SultansElephant> but if it takes a lot to get banned from this channel
[04:04] <SultansElephant> you have to really bring out your troll A-game
[04:04] <ossa> I have LOTS of important files that I need to retrieve.  I sure would like to get some Grub help if anyone has a little time.
[04:05]  * racecar56 wishes ubuntu 9.10 would work.
[04:05] <Chico> I'm so sick of people telling me that GIMP is as good as Photoshop.
[04:05] <racecar56> ossa: get a boot cd/floppy
[04:05] <SultansElephant> racecar56: what's not working?
[04:05] <Liverbones> racecar56: I feel you.
[04:05] <sumodumo> ubuntu 9.1 donest work?
[04:05] <sumodumo> it works for me
[04:05] <Liverbones> I really, really do.
[04:05] <ossa> got one
[04:05] <feed_me_seymour> If I wanted to create a redirect from http://servername/wiki to http://servername:8080, how would I go about doing this?
[04:05] <racecar56> Liverbones: got one of them unfortunate computers that can't boot recent ubuntu versions for ANYTHING?
[04:05] <Liverbones> something like that
[04:05] <ossa> I booted from there and am working on the CD now.
[04:05] <drastic> I have terrible net connectivity with 9.10, any idea why?
[04:05] <racecar56> Liverbones: and i have to use debian until they fix it >:(
[04:05] <Liverbones> I ended up using 9.04 Minimal :P
[04:05] <SultansElephant> Chico: some people drink the kool-aid, whatever. what's cool is what people have accomplished the 'near-beer' of open source apps
[04:06] <Chico> Bleh.
[04:06] <SultansElephant> Chico: You can run photoshop CS2 off Wine
[04:06] <sumodumo> idc i just use 9.1 its stable for me
[04:06] <Chico> It's just that graphic designers use Photoshop, not GIMP.
[04:06] <racecar56> ossa: mount your /home drive. if you didn't seperately partition it (you'd know if you did) then just mount your / partition.
[04:06] <sumodumo> ew i dont like gimp
[04:06] <racecar56> ossa: just go on Places and explore the different availible volumes.
[04:06] <sumodumo> it sucks
[04:07] <racecar56> i like gimp. i don't see what's wrong with it.
[04:07] <sumodumo> idk i dont like the gui. i think PS better
[04:07] <ossa> I have and I can get to the files. I just need to be able to boot from the HD instead of the CD
[04:07] <DaZ> racecar56: many things
[04:07] <racecar56> sumodumo: i don't really like the GUI very much either, to be honest
[04:07] <racecar56> sumodumo: on KDE4, it's a nightmare
[04:07]  * DaZ doesn't like their brushes engine
[04:07] <johnson_b> khelvan: you get it working
[04:08] <Liverbones> sumodumo: You don't like the GUI because it's not what you're used to.
[04:08] <sumodumo> liverbones: yea probably ive been using PS for years now.
[04:08] <Liverbones> Anyway, does anyone know much about Upstart jobs?
[04:08] <racecar56> ...i don't like the GUI very much and i've almost never used PS.
[04:08] <diego> HI
[04:08] <snarkster> evening what is the name of the dbug file for libdbus-1.so.3
[04:08] <khelvan> johnson_b - I ran the script, it appears to be working, but there is nothing to tell me how to connect to the configuration, or even if a web admin is available. I don't know if it plays well with headless servers.
[04:08] <racecar56> i probably used PS only 1 or 2 times.
[04:09] <racecar56> ...ever
[04:09] <Guest41532> HOLAAAAAAA
[04:09] <Liverbones> racecar56: well, that and GIMP doesn't have the best GUI, granted :P
[04:09] <Liverbones> I don't use it much
[04:09] <racecar56> Liverbones: i don't use it VERY much.
[04:09]  * racecar56 wishes ubuntu 9.10 would work
[04:09] <TCCB> hello
[04:09] <Liverbones> do you have that on a macro? :P
[04:09] <racecar56> hi
[04:10] <Liverbones> Howdy.
[04:10] <DaZ> gimp is so good it made me more interested in vector graphics
[04:10] <racecar56> Liverbones: me? no.
[04:10] <johnson_b> Liverbones: i not trying to start anything but when u first lookied at photshop did u know how to use it right off. more and likey you had to learn it same goes with gimp
[04:10] <preecher> i buy a philips mp3 player an after i open i see its for windows--is they a way i can make it work on ubuntu? ive tried installing the software with "wine" but dint work
[04:10] <TCCB> can anyone recomend a good SIMPLE HTML web publishing editor for Ubuntu?
[04:10] <racecar56> DaZ: same.
[04:10] <Liverbones> johnson_b: My point exactly :)
[04:10] <racecar56> TCCB: ...kompozer?
[04:10] <johnson_b> khelvan: nmap localhost may have to isntall nmap
[04:10] <TCCB> ok I'll check it out.
[04:10] <racecar56> TCCB: k
[04:11] <TCCB> how is everyone liking 9.10?
[04:11] <Ben64> i'm all for open source, but photoshop IS better
[04:11] <Liverbones> TCCB: not a big fan, here.
[04:11] <Ben64> TCCB: not :(
[04:11] <TCCB> Not much of reason to switch unless you are doing a new install IMHO
[04:11] <racecar56> TCCB: i like it except one of my comps can't run it well
[04:11] <racecar56> i have never really used PS
[04:11] <TCCB> disk issues?
[04:11] <johnson_b> Ben64: read my comment about it
[04:11]  * racecar56 does not care about PS
[04:11] <Liverbones> I'm not liking Upstart, Grub 2 or the new GDM at all. So I removed GDM :P
[04:11] <racecar56> TCCB: no, i'm using the LiveCD, it can't be that
[04:11] <mamia> if im supposed to extract a file into /opt as instructed to by a "how to install xampp on ubuntu 9.04", but i cant find /opt, where is the next best place to extract to. conventionally speaking i guess
[04:11] <TCCB> ah I see.
[04:12] <DaZ> Liverbones: that's so hardcore
[04:12] <Liverbones> mamia: You should have /opt
[04:12] <DaZ> can i touch you?
[04:12] <racecar56> TCCB: it goes in an infinite blackscreen > loading screen loop
[04:12] <Liverbones> What's hardcore?
[04:12] <tsunami> this game sucks goodnight
[04:12] <Ben64> on my laptop--- 5.1 audio in mplayer cuts out, mplayer uses only one core to decode, making 720p impossible, other sound issues, multiple displays crashes computer
[04:12] <DaZ> Liverbones: gdm removal [;
[04:12] <giloth> has anyone been having issues with ubuntu 9.10 and getting rhythmbox to fetch cover art off the internet?
[04:12] <johnson_b> TCCB: i do like 9.10 got all working on laptop but finger print scanner doesn't seem to load faster than 9.04 was told time over time it would :(
[04:12] <Liverbones> sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[04:12] <Liverbones> ... done
[04:12] <Ben64> johnson_b: yeah i did read it, but photoshop still wins
[04:12] <DaZ> apt-get: command not found
[04:12] <DaZ> awww >:
[04:13] <TCCB> Yeah gdm can be dangerious and removing it is probably more so
[04:13] <mamia> Liverbones, nope dont have it
[04:13] <racecar56> rofl!
[04:13] <racecar56> xD
[04:13] <TCCB> dangerous even
[04:13] <racecar56> DaZ: you simulating a RPM linux distro? lol!
[04:13] <johnson_b> Ben64: just saying gimp works just have to learn like u did photoshop
[04:13] <Liverbones> Where are you looking for it? Ubuntu automatically makes /opt
[04:13] <racecar56> DaZ: yum purge gdm?
[04:13] <drastic> Can't connect to certain servers on 9.10, any idea why?
[04:13] <racecar56> DaZ: i have NO idea..
[04:13] <Liverbones> TCCB: Removing GDM isn't dangerous
[04:13] <Ben64> johnson_b: I know. Really, I do. But still..... Photoshop wins.
[04:13] <DaZ> yum: command not found
[04:13] <DaZ> :F
[04:13] <TCCB> drastic: probably internet?
[04:13] <boxxy_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8417865 <[04:14] <racecar56> DaZ: i am only used to debian-baseddistros
[04:14] <DaZ> rpms and debs r for lusrs
[04:14] <racecar56> DaZ: rpm, does that command work :P
[04:14] <drastic> TCCB: Connection's not dropping, and it's working fine on my XP installation.
[04:14] <racecar56> DaZ: nvm
[04:14] <racecar56> DaZ: no.
[04:14] <DaZ> <3
[04:14] <Liverbones> haha
[04:14] <racecar56> DaZ: rm command? LOL!
[04:14] <mamia> Liverbones, i just assumed from the "how to" that /opt was standard with ubuntu 9.04... so do i have to make the dir?
[04:14] <johnson_b> Ben64: i do like photoshop don't get me wrong but gimp is amazing to be free compared to 1000 for photoshop
[04:14] <Liverbones> mamia: It is standard.
[04:15] <mamia> Liverbones, im looking in /    cant find it
[04:15] <Liverbones> mamia: But if it's not in your filesystem, you could make it.
[04:15] <racecar56> DaZ: easy everything removal: use of the command. we all know what command it is.
[04:15] <Ben64> johnson_b: well with the price, yeah gimp is awesome. But if Photoshop is free, then .. :D
[04:15] <racecar56> DaZ: LOL!
[04:15]  * racecar56 wouldn't use PS even if it were freeware.
[04:16] <Ben64> racecar56: why
[04:16] <DaZ> because it's too awesome
[04:16] <TCCB> mamia: cd /; sudo mkdir -M755 opt
[04:16] <crazy2k_> Aghh... I'm trying to report a bug in launchpad and it keeps telling me there's a timeout error. Any ideas on how I can successfully report my bug? It is not some GNOME's application bug so I can't use ubuntu-bug.
[04:16] <racecar56> Ben64: because 1. it's not opensourced in that case, 2. i like gimp anyway
[04:16] <Liverbones> TCCB: Thanks for answering that for mamia... I'm multitasking, and poorly :|
[04:17] <mamia> tccb, what does the -M755 flag do? does it just change permisions?
[04:17] <racecar56> maybe i should post this stupid infinite loop thing as a bug.
[04:17] <mamia> and thanks
[04:17]  * racecar56 hates stupid startup bugs
[04:17] <TCCB> well technically it sets it the mode to that yet.
[04:17] <Liverbones> mamia: Yes, it does
[04:17] <khelvan> johnson_b, http://pastebin.com/m48f3d179 - I don't see anything that looks like it
[04:17] <TCCB> I only say that because you can't change the mode on a dir that isn't there... :)
[04:17] <TCCB> <[04:17]  * racecar56  
[04:18] <racecar56> er...
[04:18] <racecar56> lol.
[04:18] <FloodBot2> racecar56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <racecar56> hi, floodbot.
[04:18] <racecar56> :P
[04:18] <Liverbones> Floodbot loves you.
[04:18] <TCCB> and that means...oh let's see... user can do what ever... group can read, traverse but not write... and the same goes for everyone else
[04:18] <racecar56> Liverbones: XD
[04:18] <mamia> thanks again guys, ill now try to finish the installation of xampp
[04:18] <Liverbones> Good luck, mamia :)
[04:18] <racecar56> FloodBot2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <racecar56> lol!
[04:19] <johnson_b> khelvan: it wouldn't be whats running on port 80 would it can you http://localhost
[04:19] <crazy2k_> Aghh... I'm trying to report a bug in launchpad and it keeps telling me there's a timeout error. Any ideas on how I can successfully report my bug? It is not some GNOME's application bug so I can't use ubuntu-bug.
[04:19] <racecar56> crazy2k_: launchpad problem, possibly. try that in a few mins
[04:20] <racecar56> crazy2k_: OR your internet fails like mine.
[04:20] <racecar56> crazy2k_: :|
[04:20] <Liverbones> Internet fails for the win.
[04:20] <racecar56> crazy2k_: i'd just try it later.
[04:21] <khelvan> johnson_b, No, that is my LAMP server (Apache, SQL, etc. all have their standard ports). I don't really use it, I just installed it to play around with it.
[04:22] <racecar56> FloodBot2: .noitautcnup sa retnE esu t'nod ,etsap ot moc.utnubu.etsap//:ptth esu ,doolf t'nod esaelP
[04:22] <racecar56> lol!
[04:22] <johnson_b> khelvan: what ws u installing again
[04:22] <racecar56> that's floodbot's message backwards.
[04:22] <Liverbones> You're having too much fun with the bot.
[04:22] <Liverbones> Seriously, it's disturbing. :P
[04:23] <racecar56> Liverbones: i better stop.
[04:23] <racecar56> Liverbones: lol.
[04:23] <Liverbones> and it's time for a smoke break. Be back in soon
[04:24] <racecar56> ubottu says: Sorry, I don't know anything about
[04:24] <khelvan> johnson_b, PS3 Media Server. I think I need to set up something like VNC so that I can view the desktop; it has a java console for configuration on the server itself.
[04:24] <racecar56> "Sorry, I don't know anything about" about what?
[04:25] <johnson_b> khelvan: it may be the 901 i would have to look at more info for it but samba is file sharing
[04:25] <racecar56> lol
[04:25] <TCCB> The death star plans are not in the main computer
[04:25] <TCCB> so I looked for komposer and no go
[04:25] <khelvan> johnson_b, Yes, I have samba set up to serve files over the network
[04:25] <TCCB> anyone else know of a good web page editor Dreamweaver esqe
[04:26] <iamspartaaaaaa> was ist samaba?
[04:26] <khelvan> iamspartaaaaaa, samba allows me to share directories, files, and other things to my network devices, including Windows machines
[04:26] <TCCB> iamspartaaaaa: a protocol to allow window computers to connect to hard drives on linux machines
[04:26] <oddie_> TCCB: i've used Scream before thats cool...not dreamweaver equiv though...not even close
[04:27] <racecar56> window computers xD
[04:27] <aintaer> I miss Dreamweaver
[04:27] <khelvan> TCCB - I have heard good things about Quanta and Aptana, but I haven't tried either of them.
[04:27] <iamspartaaaaaa> khelvan: so cant u just use an external HD?
[04:27] <johnson_b> TCCB: i have found nothing exact same as dreamweaver but bluefish was ok i gotten to where i just use text editor now
[04:27] <aintaer> Quanta is QT right?
[04:27] <TCCB> oddie_ I'll try that. is that in the normal universe and multi-verse ubuntu packagesphere?
[04:27] <Billiard> iamspartaaaaaa: its for sharing directories over a network
[04:27] <racecar56> window computers are Windows computers after you've had so much trouble with them. xD
[04:27] <aintaer> Dreamweaver is what I miss most about windows apps
[04:27] <khelvan> iamspartaaaaaa, What do you mean? I suppose I could transfer files to an external hard drive, then plug the HDD into another machine, but this way I have all the files I want to share on my server, and I can access them from anywhere on the network.
[04:27] <oddie_> TCCB: i think it was when i used it, Bluefish was good too, that should be there
[04:28] <TCCB> Dreamweaver has gotten very sophisticated... with jquery like goodness and all that
[04:28] <iamspartaaaaaa> khelvan: oh i see. i double boot xp on my machine so HD works just fine. in your case with separate computers thats different.....
[04:29] <oddie_> TCCB: i dont think you will get a free Dreamweaver like program :(
[04:29] <luk1> I think my sound has gone completely foobar after the Karmic upgrade.  My front left speaker is identifying correctly, but the only other speaker I can get sound from is the rear right and it identifies as front right when I use speaker-test.
[04:29] <johnson_b> khelvan: try this /etc/init.d/fuppes restart was going to see if that was server you installed was looking at this http://www.howtoforge.com/set-up-a-linux-playstation-3-media-server-with-ubuntu8.04 it maybe helpful don't know
[04:29] <TCCB> hmmm... Dreamweaver for linux... put that on the todo list.. :)
[04:29] <racecar56> isn't it possible to use wine with it? i haven't ever used dreamweaver (i haven't ever used it before, not even in windows) so i don't know
[04:29] <luk1> is there anyway to reset pulseaudio to try to fix the audio?
[04:30] <luk1> there was some Dreamweaver like app
[04:30] <luk1> but the maintainers left
[04:30] <aintaer> Quanta, I heard
[04:30] <khelvan> iamspartaaaaaa, Yes, if you have only one machine having a file server will only help you if you, for instance, want to put your files on a RAID array so that if one HDD fails the other(s) still runs.
[04:30] <racecar56> ...what is dreamweaver anyway
[04:30] <DaZ_> quanta wasn't wyswig ;f
[04:30] <aintaer> IDE for web development
[04:30] <luk1> a website designer
[04:30] <aintaer> With WYSWIG and all that jazz
[04:30] <TCCB> yeah wysiwyg html editor and yeah
[04:30] <aintaer> sexy, is what it is
[04:30] <luk1> yes, it was very nice
[04:30] <luk1> it even produced proper css for stuff
[04:31] <luk1> unlike microsoft's editor
[04:31] <aintaer> Pffft
[04:31] <khelvan> johnson_b, Thanks, but that is for fuppes, a different media server. The one I installed was called "PS3 Media Server," or PMS for short :P - it is its name, not a descriptor :)
[04:31] <aintaer> Macromedia made good tools
[04:31]  * racecar56 likes to use this thing called a text editor to make HTML documents
[04:31] <TCCB> Well MS wanted to put all of it's own proprietary crap in it.
[04:31] <TCCB> including it's own css markup
[04:31]  * racecar56 also likes to use lynx to view the resulting HTML files.
[04:31] <TCCB> which never worked
[04:31] <luk1> racecar56: it's not targeted to you
[04:31] <PhantomLink> Yay!
[04:31] <luk1> it's targetted at designer
[04:31] <aintaer> racecar56: welcome to 1995.
[04:31] <PhantomLink> I am saving another laptop from Windoze! ^_^
[04:31] <racecar56> aintaer: :D
[04:31] <PhantomLink> With Ubunutu 9.10
[04:31] <luk1> you know, they ppl that make shiney graphics, but don't know proper code
[04:31] <TCCB> racecar56: so do I ... but I hate to type that much
[04:32] <racecar56> PhantomLink: yaaaaaaaaaay
[04:32] <oddie_> wine, try wine + Dreamweaver
[04:32] <khelvan> Can anyone tell me what the easiest way is to set up remote desktop control of my server via SSH?
[04:32] <aintaer> I wonder if I can get Dreamweaver standalone
[04:32] <racecar56> wine + Dreamweaver = wineDreamweaver xD
[04:32] <TCCB> wineweaver?
[04:32]  * PhantomLink dances :D
[04:32] <racecar56> :D
[04:32] <racecar55> HAHA
[04:32] <TCCB> dreamwiner
[04:32] <aintaer> Dreamwinever.
[04:32] <racecar56> racecar55? ROFL
[04:32] <TCCB> O.o
[04:32] <luk1> khelvan: you probably want vnc over ssh
[04:33] <regeya> blah.
[04:33] <racecar55> racecar56: HAHA
[04:33] <luk1> it's will be very slow unless it's all on a local LAN
[04:33] <racecar56> racecar55: HAHA
[04:33] <khelvan> racecar56 - wine + Dreamweaver = $200
[04:33] <racecar55> racecar56: got bored! :)
[04:33] <TCCB> word
[04:33] <racecar56> racecar55: you're iamspartaaa?
[04:33] <racecar56> racecar55: i see your nick change in history.
[04:33] <racecar56> racecar55: xD
[04:34] <racecar56> yaaaaay let's ALL be racecars!
[04:34] <regeya> if you really wanna run windows stuff without rebooting and you already have windows you could install windows in virtualbox and run your windows apps there...
[04:34] <racecar55> YEA!!!!!1
[04:34] <aintaer> NO GUYS
[04:34] <racecar55> RACECARRRR!!!!!!!!
[04:34] <FloodBot2> racecar55: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <racecar51> woot!
[04:34] <regeya> do I gotta?
[04:34] <racecar1> I'M THE FIRST RACECAR!!!
[04:34] <aintaer> NO TOO MANY PALINDROMES
[04:34] <racecar1> NAH NAH NAH NAH NAHH
[04:34] <PhantomLink> regeya, that's what I do
[04:34] <FloodBot2> racecar1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <aintaer> I HOPE YOU ALL PANIC AND SEGFAULT
[04:34] <johnson_b> khelvan there maybe a README file that will help you
[04:34] <racecar1> lol!
[04:34] <klaxo> GO PATRIOTS
[04:34] <racecar2> yea!
[04:34] <regeya> a lot of things have changed in #ubuntu since the last time I was here :-}
[04:34] <racecar1> Segmentation fault: core dumped
[04:34] <racecar51> Mario Andretti!
[04:34] <oddie_> what about xming for remote desktop type work?
[04:34] <racecar1> Segmentation fault: core dumped D'OH
[04:34] <aintaer> racecar1 is that a nethack reference
[04:35] <racecar1> aintaer: no
[04:35] <racecar56> yaaay i am racecar56 again.
[04:35] <chetnick> just installed dlink air dwl-520 pci wifi card, (prism 2.5). i think i remeber this card working in 8.04. Now it does not show up in network manager. This is info for those how want and can help.. http://pastebin.com/m47acf6e4
[04:35] <khelvan> johnson_b, Yeah, there is, but it is not helpful at all. I'll just set up VNC on the server and view it remotely, that will allow me to work with the java console and configure it nicely.
[04:35] <exploreralex> can anybody help me please?
[04:35] <racecar56> chetnick: does it show up in lspci and ifconfig
[04:36] <racecar56> exploreralex: what do you need
[04:36] <exploreralex> i am trying to set up openthinclient
[04:36] <exploreralex> software
[04:36] <chetnick> racecar56: http://pastebin.com/m47acf6e4 everything is there (log, lspci, ifconfig etc.)
[04:36] <johnson_b> khelvan: sounds good long as you get it working
[04:36] <chetnick> racecar56: check it out.
[04:36] <exploreralex> it needs to write a directory
[04:36] <exploreralex> to install the software
[04:37] <exploreralex> but i encounter an error message
[04:37] <exploreralex> that says "the directory can not be written. please choose another directory"
[04:37] <racecar56> chetnick: dhclient wlan0, what happens
[04:37] <johnson_b> Aptana Studio is another html/css app that i know of based off of eclipse its not in repos but maybe something you want to look at TCCB
[04:37] <exploreralex> if i choose another directory
[04:38] <chetnick> racecar56: ok give me a second, i'm on other pc.
[04:38] <skyl> what's the latest for realtime in 9.10?
[04:38] <racecar56> exploreralex: are you running it as root? be careful in root, though
[04:38] <exploreralex> it offers to overwrite the directory provided
[04:38] <Billiard> !enter | exploreralex
[04:38] <racecar56> exploreralex: what directory is it trying to write to?
[04:38] <racecar56> exploreralex: when the error happen
[04:38] <exploreralex> ubottu: okay
[04:38] <johnson_b> skyl: can you tell a difference with realtime kernel ?
[04:39] <racecar56> ubottu: :uttobu
[04:39] <skyl> johnson_b, I'm expecting so
[04:39] <racecar56> (10:39:07 PM) ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about uttobu
[04:39] <racecar56> XD
[04:39] <skyl> !realtime
[04:39] <racecar56> !realtime
[04:39] <exploreralex>  racecar56: its trying to create a directory /opt/openthinclient
[04:39] <seidos> is there a way to make a terminal have a built in calculator?
[04:39] <racecar56> hmm
[04:39] <DaZ> seidos: use python
[04:39] <TCCB> wow Bluefish IS cool
[04:39] <skyl> !rt
[04:39] <racecar56> exploreralex: do this in terminal: sudo mkdir /opt/openthinclient
[04:40] <johnson_b> skyl: i tested in past and couldn't thats why i was asking but i didn't test for long
[04:40] <seidos> DaZ: thanks
[04:40] <exploreralex> okay let me try
[04:40] <skyl> johnson_b, well I have a good dataset for without the rt kernel and it's not good enough...
[04:40] <Billiard> seidos: you can use bc
[04:40]  * racecar56 wonders why there are 2 entries of bluefish in the software center
[04:40] <skyl> so I thought I would give RT a try
[04:40] <seidos> Billiard: bc?
[04:40] <Billiard> !bc
[04:41] <racecar56> seidos: python and bc.
[04:41] <racecar56> seidos: bc is awesome :D
[04:41] <skyl> I was already at that wiki page but it doesn't say anything past hardy
[04:41] <exploreralex> racecar56: still the same error
[04:41] <skyl> this is an operation that can be performed with apt?
[04:41] <racecar56> seidos: bc is the command line calculator
[04:41] <oddie_> racecar56: one is a bad one that formats you HD.
[04:41] <Billiard> seidos: its just like a program for doing calculator like stuff
[04:41] <linos> anyone know if there is a IBM rational channel?
[04:41] <racecar56> oddie_: what?
[04:41] <skyl> SAGE is my choice for best calculator ever
[04:42] <skyl> it is on top of Python and has Python builtin; everyone come to Atlanta for PyCon in Febuary
[04:42] <chetnick> racecar56: http://pastebin.com/m7d852f53
[04:42] <oddie_> racecar56: 2 entries of Bluefish
[04:42] <exploreralex> racecar56: the same error again
[04:42] <skyl> I will pick you up from the airport
[04:42] <chetnick> racecar56: some weird stuff.
[04:42] <Billiard> exploreralex: what error when you do what?
[04:43] <IdleOne> oddie_: are you suggesting that the Ubuntu repos contain a package that will format the HD?
[04:43] <racecar56> oddie_: really? and how do you know?
[04:43] <magicovercast> #ubuntu-co
[04:44] <ten80p> why does it tell me that i have wrong fs type when i try to mount a device?
[04:44] <oddie_> racecar56: im just guessing...no other reason why they would do it!! those tricksters
[04:44] <racecar56> chetnick: weird.
[04:44] <racecar56> chetnick: very weird.
[04:44] <Billiard> ten80p: how are you trying to mount it
[04:44] <racecar56> chetnick: you are 100% sure it's in that slot good, right?
[04:44] <ripthejacker> any here uses nokia phone?
[04:44] <ten80p> Billiard: I tried sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/DiskB
[04:45] <exploreralex> Billiard:when i try to install openthinclient the setup needs to select installation path which it selects as /opt/openthinclent. the error is"the directory can not be written. please choose another directory"
[04:45] <ripthejacker> is there any kind of replacement for nikia pc suite?
[04:45] <ripthejacker> *nokia pc suite
[04:45] <ten80p> I am sure the filesystem on the disk is ext4, but keeps telling me that i have wrong fs
[04:45] <chetnick> racecar56: nope, i am not 100% sure. The weird thing is that it is showing interface on ifconfig and iwconfig, but when i go to network manager wifi tab its empty.
[04:45] <Billiard> exploreralex: create that directory, and give yourself write permissions in it
[04:45] <oddie_> exploreralex: run as root?
[04:46] <Billiard> ten80p: how is sdb1 formatted, what fs type, you may need to specify it
[04:46] <racecar56> chetnick: maybe you should check if it's all the way in the slot.
[04:46] <bastidrazor> ten80p: sudo fdisk -l  ..that should list all drives connected regardless of mount. it will tell you the fs type.
[04:46] <exploreralex> created directory using :sudo mkdir /opt/openthinclient
[04:46] <racecar56> chetnick: if you can see the gold contacts a little bit, shut downt the comp and push it in gently but firmly (enough to make it go in better)
[04:46] <exploreralex> the error continues
[04:46] <lyrae> how can i remove trash can and home dir from desktop?
[04:46] <Billiard> exploreralex: give yourself write permissions in it
[04:47] <exploreralex> how do i do that?
[04:47] <ten80p> it says system: Linux ..
[04:47] <Billiard> exploreralex: using chmod
[04:47] <exploreralex> it asked for the password while creating the directory. thats it.
[04:47] <racecar56> exploreralex: try this: sudo mv /opt/openthinclient /opt/.openthinclient.old && sudo mkdir /opt/openthinclient
[04:47] <skyl> I have not seen jack and pulseaudio play so nice together as on karmic
[04:47] <PhantomLink> Uh oh.
[04:47] <racecar56> what
[04:48] <exploreralex> racecar56: type the same thing as it is?
[04:48] <Billiard> ten80p: try adding -t ext3 to your mount command
[04:48] <PhantomLink> The laptop is stuck at "Starting up the partitioner" screen, and it doesn't seem to be loading it.
[04:48] <ripthejacker> hi i am looking for  nokia pc suite like application for linux
[04:48] <racecar56> exploreralex: without quites, "sudo mv /opt/openthinclient /opt/.openthinclient.old && sudo mkdir /opt/openthinclient"
[04:48] <skyl> now to see if the rt kernel makes it all gravy
[04:48] <racecar56> exploreralex: *quotes
[04:48] <ten80p> Billiard: alrdy did, still says wrong fs
[04:48] <luk1> I can't get 5.1 audio to work under karmic.  I got two speakers working but they're not outputing the correct channels
[04:48] <Billiard> ten80p: did you format it?
[04:48] <racecar56> PhantomLink: i know how that feels -_-
[04:48] <ripthejacker> i should at least be able to copy contacts
[04:48] <ten80p> Billiard: nop
[04:48] <Billiard> ten80p: did you try without the -t option
[04:48] <Billiard> ten80p: you need to format it before you mount it
[04:48] <ten80p> and yes
[04:48] <racecar56> PhantomLink: i once formatted a partition full of backup data.
[04:49] <racecar56> PhantomLink: OUCH
[04:49] <ten80p> its alrdy formatted and i have data on it
[04:49] <racecar56> PhantomLink: that hurts.
[04:49] <racecar56> PhantomLink: doesn't it?
[04:49] <PhantomLink> You can stop highlighting me any time now.
[04:49] <skyl> bombs away ... rebooting into the rt kernel.....>>!
[04:49] <racecar56> k
[04:50] <Billiard> ten80p: is there maybe conflicting line in the fstab?
[04:50]  * racecar56 wishes ubuntu 9.10 would work decently :|
[04:50] <PhantomLink> Should I not do 9.10?
[04:51] <ten80p> Billiard: dont think so, fstab says the filesystem is the one i chose
[04:51] <racecar56> PhantomLink: if your comp is from 2004, yes
[04:51] <Billiard> ten80p: try removing the fstab line, and try to mount without specifying a fstype
[04:51] <racecar56> PhantomLink: my comp that i have from 2004 won't run ubuntu 9.10 D:
[04:51] <PhantomLink> racecar56, upgrade it
[04:51] <racecar56> PhantomLink: it goes in an infinite loop of blank screen > loading screen
[04:51] <Billiard> ten80p: sudo blkid     might tell you the fstype
[04:51] <Recliner> hi
[04:51] <exploreralex>  racecar56:now the error is"mv:missing destination file operand after `/opt/.openthinclent.old`"
[04:52] <TCCB> thanks all for your help..
[04:52] <TCCB> be well
[04:52] <Recliner> Im having a problem with installing my drivers
[04:52] <racecar56> exploreralex: did you type it right?
[04:52] <racecar56> exploreralex: i suggest copying.
[04:52] <exploreralex> i did
[04:52] <ten80p> Billiard: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:52] <racecar56> exploreralex: without quotes, "sudo mv /opt/openthinclient /opt/.openthinclient.old && sudo mkdir /opt/openthinclient" try that again
[04:53] <Billiard> ten80p: try sudo blkid
[04:53] <racecar56> Recliner: what drivers.
[04:53] <exploreralex> okay no errors.
[04:53] <ten80p> Billiard: blkid only showed the main hard drive not sdb
[04:53] <Billiard> ten80p: even with sudo ?
[04:53] <racecar56> exploreralex: try the installer again.
[04:53] <Recliner> video or graphics
[04:54] <ten80p> yes
[04:54] <exploreralex> racecar56: be right back
[04:54] <racecar56> Recliner: ATI, NVIDIA, or what?
[04:54] <racecar56> exploreralex: k
[04:54] <Recliner> i go to the hardware drivers and it doesnt show anything
[04:54] <lyrae> how can i remove trash can and home dir from desktop?
[04:55] <Billiard> ten80p: is it possible the filesystem is corrupted? could try fsck
[04:55] <oddie_> i just lost the game
[04:56] <DaZ> that's what the game is for :f
[04:56] <Billiard> lyrae: i know you can use gconf-editor, you might be able to just delete them
[04:56] <ten80p> Billiard: checking now, does seem to have errors!
[04:57] <Recliner> can anyone help me manually load hardware drivers
[04:58] <Billiard> Recliner: which?
[04:59] <Recliner> any. i just installed zorin and none show up
[04:59] <Billiard> Recliner: drivers for what?
[04:59] <Recliner> so my pc runs really slow and my screen resolution is off
[04:59] <Dasda> hey guys is there a way to extract a .exe file? I am trying to view a ebook that works fine in windows but when I run it under wine in UBuntu karmic, It does not load the images at all
[05:00] <Billiard> Recliner: video drivers? for which card?
[05:00] <mahngiel> sup folks. down to my last attempt before i reinstall ubuntu. i need to know if there's a way to repair and install the main components of the OS. i've lost my GUI, and cannot start an x session
[05:00] <racecar56> Dasda: unzip
[05:00] <racecar56> Dasda: might help
[05:00] <racecar56> Dasda: or cabextract
[05:00] <mahngiel> i don't have a broadband connection, so i cannot "apt-get" anything
[05:00] <Dasda> "unzip" is name of a program?
[05:00] <racecar56> i don't have broadband, either, and i CAN apt-get anything.
[05:00] <racecar56> Dasda: yes.
[05:01] <racecar56> Dasda: command line
[05:01] <Fatb0y> mahngiel, you can apt-get from the cd.  you should try reinstalling xwindows.  did you muck around with the xorg file or something?
[05:01] <racecar56> Dasda: if you aren't familiar with command line just use your standard archiver.
[05:01] <Billiard> mahngiel: is your xorg.conf bad maybe?
[05:01] <mahngiel> let me refrase, racecar, i don't have an internet connection unless i can authenticate it
[05:01] <racecar56> Dasda: ..like file-roller or stuff
[05:01] <Recliner> AMD Turion Dual-Core RM-70. thats my cpu
[05:01] <Billiard> Recliner: dont care about your cpu
[05:02] <mahngiel> Fatb0y, apt-get xwindows?
[05:02] <Recliner> i think i have an nvidia 8200m
[05:02] <Recliner> not sure tho
[05:02] <alabd_> Good day everyone , where to download IBM JRE ?
[05:02] <Recliner> how do i find it
[05:02] <Fatb0y> mahngiel, no  you need to reinstall the xserver
[05:02] <Billiard> Recliner: lspci maybe
[05:02] <mahngiel> Billiard: may be more indepth than that.
[05:03] <Recliner> what is lspci
[05:03] <mahngiel> Fatb0y: how can i pull that off?
[05:03] <mahngiel> alabd_: try linuxappfinder.com
[05:03] <Billiard> Recliner: try running that command
[05:04] <Dasda> racecar, this is what I get when i try to extract the .exe file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/332120/
[05:04] <Recliner> geforce 8200
[05:04] <Gambit-> Anyone know how I can cause the network applet to use a super-small gui and tile them like on windows, rather then using a gui graphic that expands to fit the size of the toolbar?
[05:04] <Recliner> i still think its an m becuause i have a laptop
[05:04] <Billiard> Recliner: well you can try installing the latest nvidia drivers from the package manager
[05:05] <racecar56> Recliner: i have a rather similar card, it's a geforce 8600, and it works beautifully with ubuntu
[05:05] <racecar56> Recliner: you shouldn't have much trouble.
[05:05] <holmser> I'm having an issue with my keyboard layout
[05:05] <racecar56> Recliner: i used envyng to install the drivers.
[05:05] <holmser> I am attemting to switch to dvorak, I change it in keyboard settings, but the typing stays qwerty
[05:05] <holmser> not sure what I am doing wrong
[05:06] <Recliner> how do i find the graphics in pm
[05:06] <Dasda> racecar56: do you know what could be wrong? that is what i got when i try to unzip the .exe file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/332120/
[05:06] <Billiard> Recliner: open synaptic package manager, search for nvidia
[05:06] <racecar56> Dasda: try cabextract
[05:06] <holmser> nevermind... I guess I have to re open all of my windows before it will take effect
[05:07] <Dasda> k ill try that command
[05:07] <mahngiel> how do i mount and access a thumbdrive from the terminal?
[05:07] <Billiard> Recliner: you probably want, nvidia-glx-185
[05:07] <racecar56> mahngiel: mount /dev/DEVICE (change DEVICE to the /dev/ name)
[05:07] <mahngiel> ty
[05:07] <Recliner> i dont see that
[05:08] <Recliner> i see 180-modaliases, but it says its installed
[05:08] <Dasda> Racecar: it says, "no valid cabinets found" when i do cabextract
[05:08] <Zer> Say, I was looking at the Ubuntu partition options in the installer, mount options specifically
[05:08] <Zer> I noticed there is no option for acl, but there is for user_xattr
[05:08] <Billiard> Recliner: you might need to add the multiverse or universe repos, from the repositories option in synaptic
[05:08] <Zer> Is acl set by default, and is there any reason _not_ to use user_xattr?
[05:09] <tumii> Can I resize my panel icons, my panel is 48 pixels but can I resize especially the shortcut icons?
[05:10] <Gambit-> tumii, I'd like to do that too.
[05:10] <Recliner> billard: i dont see any of that
[05:10] <Billiard> Recliner: the repositories option is in one of the menus, not hidden
[05:11] <Gambit-> what's a good laptop temperature applet?
[05:11] <Billiard> Gambit-: there is a panel applet to monitor temperature
[05:11] <Billiard> Gambit-: but i forget the name sorry, its something obvious temperature or sensor
[05:11] <IdleOne> Recliner: in Sytem > Administration> Software Sources
[05:11] <Draconis> wtf
[05:12] <IdleOne> system*
[05:12] <Gambit-> Like sensors-applet?
[05:12] <Draconis> google.com keeps redirecting to lunarpages
[05:12] <Hillshum> Gambit-: yes, sensors-applet
[05:12] <Draconis> I have issues with google giving me errors and a lot of other stuff now... is that something that could be with ubuntu?
[05:12] <Recliner> my problem might have somthing to do with my computer thinking its in ireland. my keyboard was set up in that, and the package manager was set to download from an ireland server
[05:12] <Billiard> Draconis: do other computers on your network do this?
[05:13] <Draconis> Billiard, a Vista computer is reporting 404
[05:13] <Billiard> Recliner: you still have the options in synaptic
[05:13] <Dasda> racecar56: still here?
[05:13] <racecar56> Dasda: yes
[05:13]  * racecar56  
[05:13] <Billiard> Draconis: you are behind some kind of proxy or something? which is blocking websites?
[05:13] <Guest4001> hey guys is there a easy way to stop the new gdm service from autostarting in karmic 9.10 amd64 i prefer the ncurses bash login then to start x manually. and i really don't want to have to reinstall my system as a server to get it done
[05:13] <mahngiel> how do i find my usb thumbdrive? i tried fdisk
[05:13] <Gambit-> Hillshum, so once I apt-get install it, how do I add it to my panel?  Do I have to reboot to show it up?
[05:13] <racecar56> mahngiel: sudo fdisk -l
[05:13] <Draconis> and my Windows 7 box is working normally
[05:14] <racecar56> mahngiel: that didn't work?
[05:14] <mahngiel> racecar56: i thought i found it as sda5, but it wouldn't mount
[05:14] <Billiard> Guest4001: probably could use update-rc.d to make gdm not autostart
[05:14] <Hillshum> Gambit-: No, but logging out and in again might be needed
[05:14] <cow1> can we install google Chrome on Ubuntu and how?
[05:14] <Draconis> Billiard, not behind a proxy.... my Windows 7 Box is working ok... my Vista computer goes 404... and ubuntu redirects to lunarpages.com
[05:14] <Draconis> hehe
[05:14] <Dasda> racecar56: I get "no valid cabinets found" when using cabextract to extract the .exe
[05:14] <mahngiel> racecar56: i gotta reboot and try it as sudo
[05:14] <racecar56> Dasda: maybe it won't work because it isn't extractable
[05:14] <Guest4001> cool
[05:14] <Guest4001> thanks
[05:15] <Billiard> Dasda: you cant always extract an exe easily
[05:15] <bastidrazor> mahngiel: when you plug it in, look in dmesg.. normally dmesg | tail ..works well
[05:15] <Draconis> Billiard, any ideas?
[05:15] <Billiard> Draconis: does your hosts file have any odd entires ?
[05:16] <exploreralex> racecar56: no error in terminal when i copy pasted the commands you wrote. but the same error is occuring in install
[05:16] <racecar56> exploreralex: you are runnning the installer as root, right?
[05:16] <Dasda> Billiard: how? Its a ebook. I can run it under wine but it wont load images in Ubuntu. It works fine on windows though. So I though extracting it might let me view images
[05:16] <exploreralex> it was a .jar file
[05:16] <Draconis> Billiard, how would I check? I don't believe it does
[05:16] <Billiard> Draconis: /etc/hosts
[05:16] <exploreralex> so i opened it with jdk
[05:16] <racecar56> exploreralex: sudo..
[05:17] <Recliner> ok im in the software sources now what
[05:17] <Billiard> Dasda: its an exe ebook? thats dumb. i would think if they gave you an exe ebook, they dont want you to have easy access to the pictures and text
[05:17] <clyderino> I have an MSI Wind 123 netbook: it has Realtek 8187se wifi controller. Does anyone know the name/location of the driver for this wifi device in 9.10? Thanks!
[05:17] <exploreralex> its a gui based installer. so what's it with the root if i am not installing it in the terminal.
[05:18] <Billiard> Recliner: check the 5 boxes on the left
[05:18] <Dasda> Billiard: yeah, I think It is designed to do that
[05:18] <racecar56> exploreralex: use kdesu or gksu
[05:18] <Recliner> on the first tab?
[05:18] <Billiard> Recliner: yea
[05:18] <Recliner> ok
[05:19] <exploreralex>  racecar56: no idea what those are!! I am literally an amatuer at this
[05:19] <Dasda> Billiard: anyway in ubuntu I can extract that .exe ? i've tried unzip and gotten this http://paste.ubuntu.com/332120/  . Or cabextract which says "no valid cabinets found"
[05:19] <Guest4001> cool it worked the stop gdm startup
[05:19] <Draconis> Billiard, http://pastebin.com/dcad499e
[05:19] <Guest4001> lol
[05:19] <racecar56> exploreralex: what is the command you are using to run the jar
[05:19] <Guest4001> all i had to do was "sh /var/lib/update-rc.d/gdm" as sudo
[05:19] <Draconis> ubuntu google search works... google.com still redirects to lunarpages.com
[05:19] <Guest4001> got rid of the autostartup on gdm
[05:19] <Draconis> w.t.f.
[05:19] <Recliner> im downloading pakages. i dont know for what tho
[05:20] <racecar56> google is screwy.
[05:20] <racecar56> xD
[05:20] <Billiard> Dasda: if they gave you an exe ebook its probably encrypted and not easily extractable
[05:20] <Guest4001> is someone running a mitm attack on u by any chance?
[05:20] <Recliner> i just had to check the last box and i made the source from the main server
[05:20] <Draconis> racecar56, my win7 box is working fine... my ubuntu redirects to lunarpages and the vista box gives 404
[05:20] <Chico> What is Code Weavers?
[05:20] <Billiard> Draconis: looks normal
[05:20] <exploreralex> i right clicked on the icon and clicked on "open with openjdk6 runtime environment". an installer popped up.
[05:21] <chiques> reinstalling alsa is a nightmare
[05:21] <Dasda> Billiard: does not easily mean not possible? just wondering if i should continue digging
[05:21] <Billiard> chiques: sudo apt-get install alsa == nightmare ?
[05:21] <racecar56> it's a nightmare to sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa? (don't know if that is the right package name)
[05:22] <customer> hi guys, im having hard time in ubuntu server edition
[05:22] <brianherman> customer:whats ur problemo
[05:22] <chiques> Billiard, That's not what this doc says http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/08/31/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on-ubuntu-jaunty-9-04/
[05:22] <Billiard> Dasda: idk, maybe theres a way, but i wouldnt try
[05:22] <exploreralex> racecar56: this one was for me?
[05:22] <customer> it seems that i can't start apache tomcat
[05:22] <racecar56> exploreralex: open a terminal.
[05:22] <brianherman> customer: do you have the package installed
[05:23] <customer> i already installed apache tomcat6
[05:23] <racecar56> exploreralex: assuming you have the jar on your desktop, do this command: "cd ~/Desktop"
[05:23] <skyl> how can I see which kernel I am currently using?
[05:23] <Draconis> Billiard, any ideas what could cause that? Maybe having 3 boxes on one router?
[05:23] <brianherman> skyl: uname -a
[05:23] <brianherman> skyl: in terminal
[05:23] <skyl> weird, I didn't get grub to come up
[05:23] <Billiard> Draconis: does it do this on a fresh install? or on the live cd?
[05:23] <Recliner> billiard: thanks for your help im downloading the driver now
[05:24] <skyl> I installed the rt kernel and it was in grub
[05:24] <Billiard> Recliner: np
[05:24] <skyl> then $ sudo reboot now!
[05:24] <Billiard> Recliner: after downloading the package i had to use   sudo nvidia-xconfig   to enable it
[05:24] <customer> when i try to execute the startup.sh, the server says it cannot access the catalina.out\
[05:24] <PhantomLink> same thing
[05:24] <PhantomLink> third time
[05:24] <skyl> and I can't get it .. then I do a hard reboot and it just boots me into generic with no choice
[05:24] <PhantomLink> I think the CD is bad :(
[05:25] <Recliner> has anyone tried the zorin os yet
[05:25] <PhantomLink> How long should it take for starting the partitioner to get to at least 1% ?
[05:25] <brianherman> customer: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu/
[05:25] <Draconis> Billiard, fresh install
[05:25] <racecar56> PhantomLink: better than a bad HDD
[05:25] <brianherman> skyl: oh ok you need to edit your menu.lst
[05:25] <skyl> PhantomLink, probably about 1 second .. certainly no more than 15 in my experience
[05:25] <Draconis> PhantomLink, probably 0.0005 seconds :)
[05:25] <Billiard> Draconis: if a fresh install does it, its not ubuntus problem, its something on your network
[05:25] <racecar56> probably 0.00000000001 seconds :3
[05:25] <racecar56> :P
[05:25] <Draconis> what do you think could cause that? conflicting ips?
[05:26] <customer> brianherman, thanks, i will try this
[05:26] <brianherman> customer:np
[05:26] <racecar56> "google is screwy." maybe
[05:26] <skyl> brianherman, I think that menu.lst is deprecated now :/
[05:26] <racecar56> i don't think so, though
[05:26] <exploreralex> now?
[05:26] <racecar56> as in i dont think it's messed up in that case
[05:26] <racecar56> exploreralex: did you do that command
[05:26] <exploreralex> yes i did
[05:26] <skyl> skyl@scsi40:~$ locate menu.lst ---> /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst
[05:26] <racecar56> exploreralex: and is that jar on your desktop
[05:26] <racecar56> exploreralex: ok
[05:27] <customer> anyways do you guys have a book that i could read to become an ubuntu administrator
[05:27] <brianherman> ???
[05:27] <racecar56> exploreralex: what's the name of the jar
[05:27] <skyl> that doesn't seem like the relevant place? or is it?
[05:27] <exploreralex> openthinclient.jar
[05:27] <ardchoille> skyl: there isn't a menu.lst file in Karmic
[05:27] <racecar56> exploreralex: just do gksu java -jar openthinclient.jar
[05:27] <bastidrazor> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html   customer
[05:27] <Billiard> ardchoille: unless you upgraded from 9.04
[05:27] <ardchoille> !grub2 | skyl
[05:28] <racecar56> exploreralex: i THINK that'll work
[05:28] <ardchoille> Billiard: Ah, yes
[05:28] <customer> bastidrazor, thanks
[05:28] <Guest68441> Hi there, when i tries  start session the keyboard is not active
[05:28] <bastidrazor> customer: there is also #ubuntu-server channel
[05:29] <exploreralex> uhhhh,something happened. it happened very quickly. i'm not sure what it is!!!!!!
[05:29] <customer> aw! gotta try it too. ;-)
[05:29] <Gambit-> hey guys
[05:29] <Gambit-> so I have something like 13 sensors on my sensors applet for my mbp 5,2.  Anyone know of a list I can use to find out what's what?
[05:29] <Guest68441> how can i configure my keyboard from terminal ?
[05:30] <Billiard> Gambit-: do they have names?
[05:30] <Gambit-> Billiard, temp1, through temp20.
[05:30] <Gambit-> Not so useful.
[05:30] <exploreralex>  racecar56: :)
[05:34] <exploreralex> racecar56:its showing "invalid option - - "-j""
[05:34] <racecar56> exploreralex: weird
[05:34] <exploreralex> i agree
[05:34] <exploreralex> i feel totally screwed
[05:34] <racecar56> exploreralex: try java file.jar (fix the name)
[05:35] <exploreralex> its still in desktop
[05:35] <exploreralex> bring it to root?
[05:35] <lordmortis> is there a kernel parameter to turn the boot messages on ?
[05:35] <racecar56> exploreralex: yes
[05:35] <racecar56> exploreralex: gksu
[05:35] <mahngiel> when i 'ls' a dir, if the list is too long, how can i scroll up. i don't have any gui
[05:36] <racecar56> mahngiel: shift+pageup
[05:36] <mahngiel> ty
[05:36] <lordmortis> (i'm trying to start a desktop install, and it's not working and i want to see the messages)
[05:36] <racecar56> lordmortis: remove quiet splash
[05:37] <lordmortis> control f1 / f7 ?
[05:37] <lordmortis> mahngiel: ls | less
[05:37] <lordmortis> racecar56: that the boot param? so i'd go "live remove quiet splash" ?
[05:37] <racecar56> lordmortis: no
[05:37] <racecar56> lordmortis: literally REMOVE quiet splash
[05:37] <mneptok> racecar spelled backwards is racecar.
[05:37] <racecar56> true,.
[05:37] <lordmortis> ... off the boot disk?
[05:37] <racecar56> 65racecar.
[05:38] <Draconis183> Billiard, I do a search now and its coming up with this http://pastebin.com/d42a1f2e3
[05:38] <racecar56> lordmortis: just run the kernel however you run it but remove "quiet splash" from wherever you see it
[05:38] <exploreralex> racecar56:Could not find the main class: openthinclient.jar. Program will exit.
[05:38] <racecar56> exploreralex: >_<
[05:38] <racecar56> exploreralex: good gracious that is annoying
[05:39] <exploreralex> tell me about it
[05:39] <chetnick> i found exactly same problem on forum, but not a single response there. Anyone here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110853
[05:39] <Billiard> Draconis183: this is the only computer on your network which does this?
[05:39] <Billiard> Draconis183: currently
[05:40] <Draconis183> Billiard, no all of them
[05:40] <exploreralex> racecar56: what is ltsp?
[05:40] <Draconis183> which is weird... even the windows 7 and vista boxes show the error with canonical at the bottom
[05:40] <racecar56> exploreralex: idk
[05:40] <chetnick> Draconis183: which proxy you have?
[05:40] <exploreralex> huhh???
[05:41] <Draconis183> chetnick, no proxy... DHCP connection to verizon dsl
[05:41] <Billiard> Draconis183: oh before i thought you said windows 7 was fine, yeah you must be behind some kind of proxy
[05:41] <Draconis183> chetnick, or do you think ubuntu loaded one up?
[05:41] <chetnick> Draconis183: check proxy settings in your browser.
[05:41] <chetnick> Draconis183: is it firefox?
[05:41] <Draconis183> Billiard, It was... but now its doing it... before I was getting redirects etc... now its going to error
[05:41] <Draconis183> chetnick, yes in ubuntu.... chrome in windows 7... IE in Vista
[05:42] <chetnick> Draconis183: you have problem on all three machines?
[05:42] <Draconis183> yes and all 3 machines cite "Generated Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:36:54 GMT by jujube.canonical.com (squid/2.6.STABLE18)"
[05:42] <exploreralex>  racecar56: now what is idk?? could you explain ltsp?
[05:42] <Draconis183> the ubuntu system must be doing something...
[05:43] <Billiard> Draconis183: check your browser proxy settints like chetnick said?
[05:43] <chetnick> Draconis183:  go to firefox menu: Edit > Preferences - Network tab
[05:43] <chetnick> settings ...
[05:44] <chetnick> it should be No Proxy checeked.
[05:44] <chetnick> its clear that your browser is using #
[05:45] <Draconis> crap wrong button I think
[05:45] <Draconis> or not...
[05:45] <chetnick> Generated Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:36:54 GMT by jujube.canonical.com (squid/2.6.STABLE18) proxy
[05:45] <Draconis183> oops
[05:45] <chetnick> unless your arp cache is bad or something like that.
[05:45] <chetnick> the same thing for all web sites?
[05:45] <scott_ino2> anyone familiar with handbreak, how can i produce avi files instead of mkv
[05:46] <Draconis183> I don't see a network tab
[05:46] <Draconis183> lol
[05:46] <Billiard> scott_ino2: i dont know about handbreak, but you can easily change a mkv to an avi container if the codecs are supported in an avi
[05:46] <chetnick> scott_ino2: did you check man page?
[05:46] <Draconis183> chetnick, its on use system proxy
[05:46] <barqs> Guys, I have a toshiba laptop, and the screen turns red sometimes, then if i knock it, it'll go back to normal colors, and then back to red sometimes, and it keeps changing, anyone know what the issue could be? some people say it might be the connection to the motherboard, but i can't seem to find it
[05:46] <chetnick> Draconis183: what is on "use" system proxy?
[05:47] <scott_ino2> chetnick, there's no entry from what I see
[05:47] <scott_ino2> do you know how or are you simply telling me to check the man pages
[05:47] <racecar56> exploreralex: it means i don't know
[05:47] <exploreralex> ooooohhhhhhhhhh
[05:47] <scott_ino2> Billiard, yes, but that's one more step
[05:47] <racecar56> exploreralex: and i don't know what ltsp is
[05:47] <chetnick> no, i never used that program, but i figured if it supports from mkv to avi, that it would be there.
[05:48] <exploreralex> new to channel you see
[05:48] <Draconis183> chetnick, the setting.. I switched to no proxy and that didn't solve... cleared cache and now its all groovy
[05:48] <scott_ino2> I'm just wondering why it can't use avi as a prefered container
[05:48] <scott_ino2> makes no sense
[05:48] <chetnick> Draconis183: groove == work?
[05:48] <zerq> in 9.10, I can open my ntfs partitions from the GUI and it asks for a password.. is the best way to set them up to automount on startup still with fstab?
[05:49] <Billiard> scott_ino2: are you using codecs that cant be used in an avi?
[05:49] <Draconis183> chetnick, yeah
[05:49] <Draconis183> chetnick, any ideas what the heck happened or why canonical would be on the bottom of an error on a windows vista box? hehehe
[05:49] <chetnick> Draconis183: glad to hear that... their proxy is down.
[05:49] <exploreralex> does anyoen know what is LTSP??
[05:49] <scott_ino2> h264
[05:49] <exploreralex> ANYONE*
[05:50] <scott_ino2> exploreralex, linux terminal server project
[05:50] <scott_ino2> i use it quite often
[05:50] <chetnick> Draconis183: i dont know, you didnt set it up to use that proxy?
[05:50] <Draconis183> chetnick, eh? who's proxy is down?
[05:50] <bastidrazor> zerq: yes. fstab would be the easiest way to have them automount on boot
[05:50] <exploreralex> u can use a PC like a server?
[05:50] <Draconis183> nope... I believe that was a firefox default
[05:50] <chetnick> Draconis183: that one that you were using....
[05:50] <chetnick> #
[05:50] <chetnick> Generated Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:36:54 GMT by jujube.canonical.com (squid/2.6.STABLE18)
[05:50] <scott_ino2> exploreralex, no server/thin client setup
[05:50] <Draconis183> just at home on my own dsl..... with a fresh install of ubuntu
[05:50] <scott_ino2> so you have a server and set up clients that boot off the server
[05:51] <Billiard> avis cant have h264
[05:51] <Draconis183> chetnick, there were a few boxes... one was no proxy.. one was system proxy... and then there was another radio button
[05:51] <Billiard> scott ^
[05:51] <exploreralex> the hardware used must be a server??
[05:51] <chetnick> Draconis183: which one was check when you opened it?
[05:51] <exploreralex> or can we configure to install it on a PC  and make it act as a server. while other PC'S act as clients?
[05:51] <Billiard> exploreralex: any computer can be configured as a server
[05:52] <exploreralex> okay.
[05:52] <scott_ino2> Billiard, oh i see they stopped supporting AVI files apparently, god only knows what they were thinking
[05:52] <exploreralex> that's exactly what i was trying to do with openthinclient software
[05:53] <chetnick> ok now back to my problem ..... anyone pls. i have pretty much the same problem with prism 2.5 chipset http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110853
[05:53] <dew5> yay 4 wine and aom
[05:53] <exploreralex> thanks soooo much for your help....all of you racecar56,Billiard and scott_ino2
[05:54] <scott_ino2> np
[05:54] <Billiard> exploreralex: np
[05:54] <racecar56> np
[05:54] <Anorien> hello. could someone, please, tell me, where is the System-administration-services application that allows me to enable/disable services? i dont see to have it at all nor under System, nor under Places or anywhere else.
[05:54] <exploreralex> same answer!! sounded like a chorus!! lolz
[05:54] <PhantomLink> Okay I think the CD I used was bad
[05:54] <chiques> where is this directory in 9.10? cat /proc/asound/version
[05:54] <PhantomLink> I tried 4 times and got stuck at the same place.
[05:55] <PhantomLink> So I'm burning a new one at 1x
[05:55] <Zer> Say, I noticed ext3 is still the default in Ubuntu, despite ext4 being out... is ext4 not considered reliable or somesuch?
[05:55] <scott_ino2> Zer, ext4 is default in 9.10
[05:57] <Zer> Hmm. In Ubuntu Server? That's what I was trying
[05:57] <Anorien> Hello. can anyone tell me where can i find in ubuntu 9.10 the what it used to be System-Administration-Services?
[05:58] <scott_ino2> Zer, not sure about ubuntu server
[05:58] <scott_ino2> Anorien, Preferences/startup applications
[06:00] <Anorien> whoever told me, startup applications is not what im looking for
[06:01] <alkisg> Anorien: Ubuntu 9.10 switched to using upstart and afaik the old "services" application isn't compatible... there's a bug in launchpad about this.
[06:01] <lordmorti> is there a way to get the linux kernel to not query the partition on a drive?
[06:01] <Anorien> alkisg: oh, so how can i disable different services then?
[06:02] <alkisg> Anorien: update-rc.d
[06:02] <Anorien> in cli mode only? uh oh
[06:02] <tophu> ok I have an HP laptop with a built in wireless card that is not supported in aircrack-ng so I purchased a usb wireless adapter...is there a way to install the patched drivers for this adapter without messing up my current built in adapter?
[06:02] <Anorien> ok thanks alkisg
[06:02] <alkisg> Anorien: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[06:03] <alkisg> Anorien: Yeah I know... :( well I hope we'll have a GUI in Lucid :)
[06:03] <racecar56> why did they remove it?
[06:03] <tophu> when I plug in the new adapter even though it has a totally different chipset it uses the same drivers as the current adapter and just starts working
[06:03] <racecar56> O_o
[06:04] <PhantomLink> Seriously here:  Is 9.10 buggy?
[06:04] <PhantomLink> Like, REALLY buggy?
[06:04] <racecar56> PhantomLink: no
[06:04] <SpacePigeon> it never was for me
[06:04] <PhantomLink> k
[06:04] <manugg> me neither, no problems
[06:04] <PhantomLink> then my burner messed up
[06:04] <tophu> was fine for me and I'm new
[06:04] <racecar56> it was once or twice for me but updates fix
[06:04]  * PhantomLink smacks his burner - get it right this time heh
[06:04]  * racecar56 wishes i could burn at *ALL*
[06:05] <tophu> try the built in disk check and try to boot to live mode
[06:05] <racecar56> dang you old CD drives >:(
[06:05] <PhantomLink> tophu, both failed
[06:05] <PhantomLink> i got to the two white bars on live mode then the cd stopped spinning
[06:05] <tophu> also search "ubuntuforums 9.10 then the basic model of your computer" to see if you need to add any string to the installer
[06:05] <racecar56> my CD drive can burn but most of the time it's corrupt
[06:05] <tophu> try burning at a slower speed
[06:05] <Anorien> alkisg:  thanks for the link. a bit too advanced for me to get my nose in there. i found a script in ubuntu forums and i ll give it a go right now
[06:06] <PhantomLink> so i'm burning at the lowest speed this time
[06:06] <tophu> just random tips that have helped me in the past
[06:06] <PhantomLink> yeah what tophu said
[06:06] <alkisg>  Anorien: which service do you want to stop?
[06:06] <PhantomLink> tophu, 100% of the time a 1x or slowest speed burn has solved my problems
[06:06] <PhantomLink> also, my car only likes 1x
[06:06] <racecar56> s/racecar56/racecar56
[06:07] <ngirard> Hi guys. Call me dumb, but I didn't backup before trying cat >> /etc/apt/archives <<EOF some stuff EOF, and I lost its contents. I didn't run apt-get update yes. Can I retrieve my former list ?
[06:07] <tophu> so.... any way to have to wireless adapters installed both using different drivers? IE have the usb adapter use a diffenernt driver when I plug it in and leave the driver for the built in adapter alone?
[06:08] <PhantomLink> burn almost done, then i go afk again and install :D
[06:08] <tophu> I love ubuntu and don't want to switch to back-track or dual boot just for a one time test on my wireless network :-(
[06:08] <Anorien> alkisg: any services i dont need/use, im on old machines and booting takes too much and i did this with fedora 12 yesterday from a tutorial and it help decrease booting time. i wanted to do same with ubuntu
[06:08] <ardchoille> ngirard: check your /etc/apt/sources.list file. By the looks of that command I don't think your sources were touched
[06:08] <saroth> is gnome-look.org down?
[06:08] <PhantomLink> tophu, try doing it in a livecd session?
[06:09] <reverebeer> for ubuntu c development, headers are located at /usr/include, but where is the actual code for these headers. for instance, i can see unistd.h, but where's unistd.c, where the function prototypes of the .h are defined?
[06:09] <tophu> @phantom I would suggest see if live works
[06:09] <racecar56> saroth: yes
[06:09] <tophu> and then install from there if it does
[06:09] <saroth> nice...
[06:09] <PhantomLink> tophu, I meant for the driver thing
[06:09] <Fezzler> Error Help: "Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/lmms" (No such file or directory)"
[06:10] <alkisg> Anorien: well there's a link in the bug report for a new program, but I don't know how good it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/433701
[06:10] <racecar56> Fezzler: sudo apt-get install lmms
[06:10] <Fezzler> Got that after install Linux Multimedia Studio
[06:10] <racecar56> Fezzler: sudo apt-get install lmms
[06:10] <PhantomLink> Since you're doing it as a one-time thing, tophu ?
[06:10] <ngirard> ardchoille: yeah, of course, i used the wrong file ! I really need some sleep ;) thanks a lot !
[06:10] <tophu> so like boot the live and dont install the drivers for my built in card?
[06:10] <racecar56> Fezzler: the lmms package provides /usr/bin/lmms
[06:11] <ngirard> ardchoille: (while i'm at it, i'm gonna backup that sources.list right now....)
[06:11] <ardchoille> ngirard: fwiw, I don't have a /etc/apt/archives file or folder on Jaunty, you may see what's in it and if it even needs to be there
[06:11] <tophu> not a bad idea but I have to patch drivers and such to make aircrack-ng work
[06:11] <ardchoille> ngirard: Good idea
[06:11] <Fezzler> racecar56>> apparently my install didn't
[06:11] <dew5> whats the min specs for juanty?
[06:11] <PhantomLink> tophu, i don't know it will work but it can't hurt to try
[06:11] <PhantomLink> ;)
[06:11] <tophu> yup
[06:12] <racecar56> Fezzler: you sudo apt-get installed lmms?
[06:12] <tophu> yup
[06:12] <venger> ardchoille, /var/cache/apt/archives is what holds downloaded packages
[06:12] <Fezzler> racecar56>> Yup: working now.
[06:12] <ardchoille> venger: Yes, I know
[06:13] <Fezzler> racecar56>> cool.  Now if I could only understand why YouTube crashed FireFox since 9.10 upgrade
[06:13] <tophu> if this works I have an open invitation to crack my friend's wep and put porn on his desktop lol
[06:14] <tophu> he was kind enough to downgrade from wpa to wep just for this cause I'm too lazy to download a dictionary file
[06:14] <tophu> lol
[06:14] <Anorien> ty alkisg, i ll give it a try after updates are finished and i ll let you know how it works
[06:14] <PhantomLink> Well, livecd done burning so go time
[06:14] <tophu> best of luck
[06:14] <PhantomLink> tophu, thankies
[06:15] <PhantomLink> oh the other disc was bad
[06:15] <ardchoille> ngirard:  sudo mkdir /etc/master_copies && sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/sudoers /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/master_copies
[06:15] <PhantomLink> this one going MUCH MUCH faster
[06:15] <tophu> anyone here on a tablet?
[06:15] <PhantomLink> tophu, i wish
[06:15] <tophu> NICE!
[06:15] <chetnick> is there a way to fetch deb package (hostap-utils) and then install it on different maching (no internet there)?
[06:15] <ardchoille> ngirard: That's one of the things I always do right after a fresh install
[06:15] <PhantomLink> tablets are cool, i want one heh
[06:16] <Fezzler> FireFox not saving my HomePage request.  Keeps going back to Ubuntu Google and list of Add Adblock Filters/
[06:16] <ardchoille> chetnick: keep in mind you'll have to resolve deps manually if you do that
[06:16] <Billiard> Fezzler: maybe you have the option said to keep your tabs open from the last session
[06:16] <PhantomLink> and if this one fails
[06:16] <tophu> I'm trying to figure out why I have to slightly drag my finger to get the touch to register :-(
[06:16] <tophu> stupid n-trig
[06:16] <PhantomLink> i'll go with 8.10 (which is what i'm running on thos machine)
[06:17] <chetnick> ardchoille: i meant is there a way to fetch package with dependencies.
[06:17] <ardchoille> chetnick: you might look into aptoncd but I've never used it
[06:17] <ardchoille> !info aptoncd
[06:17] <tophu> ok guys laters
[06:19] <Wolter> SpacePigeon,
[06:19] <Wolter> SpacePigeon,
[06:19] <Fezzler> Billiard>> nope
[06:19] <SpacePigeon> fucking asshole
[06:20] <SpacePigeon> oh my, mind my words!
[06:20] <Billiard> !language | SpacePigeon
[06:20] <SpacePigeon> sorry there :s !
[06:20] <SpacePigeon> hey FloodBot1
[06:21] <ngirard> ardchoille: thanks for the advice : i've just followed it !
[06:21] <ardchoille> ngirard: yw :)
[06:21] <racecar56> FloodBot1 FloodBot2 FloodBot3 FloodBot4 FloodBot5 FLOOOOOOOOODBOT!!!!!!!!!
[06:21] <racecar56> :P
[06:22] <elky> Symlink, pick a nick please :)
[06:22] <PhantomLink> Oh, if anyone's interested, I'm installing this on an hp pavillion ze5300
[06:22] <Symlink> heh
[06:23] <Symlink> ironic no one has taken that one
[06:23] <PhantomLink> It's a custome one.
[06:23] <PhantomLink> custom*
[06:23] <Symlink> stop waiting
[06:23] <Flannel> Symlink: Please remain ontopic, thanks.
[06:23] <waiting> i am ner
[06:24] <APERSON> my gnome-pane freezes whenever I click on the clock/calendar.  Anyone have any insight as to why it odes this?
[06:24] <PhantomLink> Symlink, is there something you need help with?
[06:24] <PhantomLink> heh the guy that gave me this hp used to work for linux
[06:24] <waiting> thank you ,i could speak a little english
[06:24] <racecar56> PhantomLink: i have a pavilion dv9000 and it's a custom and it is beat up bad
[06:25] <racecar56> PhantomLink: it still works, though
[06:25] <Symlink> PhantomLink, no, thanks
[06:25] <PhantomLink> This one looks like no
[06:25] <PhantomLink> !offtopic | Symlink
[06:26] <Symlink> PhantomLink, thanks, I've been warned about that already by our friend Flannel
[06:26] <^Einstein> Any reason changing the username in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow of a normal user (not system) temporarily would cause that user to be able to log in but not to return from a locked gnome screensaver with the same password? The password hash and uid was untouched.
[06:27] <PhantomLink> k
[06:27] <PhantomLink> 8.10 I go
[06:27] <PhantomLink> The partitioner just won't budge D:
[06:27] <racecar56> eew 8.10 D:
[06:27] <racecar56> 9.04 won't even work?
[06:27] <PhantomLink> 9.04?
[06:27] <Symlink> hey watch the ews
[06:28] <PhantomLink> I was told there was no 9.04 D:
[06:28] <venger> ^Einstein, you also updated /etc/group?
[06:28] <racecar56> yes, 9.04
[06:28] <racecar56> there IS a 9.04!
[06:28] <racecar56> it's out and old
[06:28] <Symlink> not old..
[06:28] <mneptok> 8.10 is still supported
[06:28] <racecar56> i didn't literally mean that.
[06:28] <dew5> 8.04 still hacks
[06:28] <ardchoille> PhantomLink: I'm using 9.04 and 9.10 was released recently
[06:28] <racecar56> 8.04 through 9.10 are supported...
[06:29] <mneptok> as is 6.06
[06:29] <racecar56> 6.06 server
[06:29] <mneptok> (on servers)
[06:29] <racecar56> desktop died.
[06:29] <Anorien> could someone recommend me a much more lighter Desktop Environment than Gnome or KDE?
[06:29] <Guest74170> i cant get movieplayer to show what song's playing when I listen to web radio
[06:29] <PhantomLink> I got sent to a screen telling me to remove the disc, close the tray, and press enter.
[06:29] <zabba> I installed ubuntu from XP resizing 15gb of 120 but now I need more I am in live and it is only showing the full 120 how do I get more space
[06:29] <ardchoille> Anorien: xfce
[06:29] <mneptok> Anorien: XFCE? LXDE?
[06:29] <racecar56> Anorien: xfce, fluxbox (it's not a DE though)
[06:29] <PhantomLink> And it didn't install anything!  D:
[06:29] <racecar56> Anorien: and lxde
[06:29] <racecar56> Anorien: as mneptok said.
[06:29] <Anorien> i've read about both xfce and lxde but i dont know what to pick
[06:30] <mneptok> Anorien: how much RAM?
[06:30] <^Einstein> venger: not manually, and I didn't expect any app/daemon to touch it either, given that I logged in as that username but didn't do any administrative things. Didn't even use sudo (I didn't update sudoers, either).
[06:30] <ardchoille> Anorien: try them both and see which one meets your needs
[06:30] <Anorien> running 9.10 in virtual machine, about 410 RAM allocated to it
[06:30] <PhantomLink> any ideas why 9.10 refuses to install?
[06:30] <mneptok> Anorien: that's more than enough for XFCE
[06:30] <dew5> min specs for 9.04 plz?
[06:30] <Symlink> PhantomLink, how?
[06:30] <Symlink> be more specific
[06:30] <dew5> soz 9.10
[06:30] <PhantomLink> Partitioner just won't start
[06:30] <Anorien> ty guys :)
[06:30] <Symlink> oh
[06:30] <PhantomLink> And I've tried 4 times.
[06:30] <Symlink> PhantomLink, did you checksum?
[06:31] <Symlink> Or check for integrity
[06:31] <PhantomLink> This time it told me to remove the disc and press enter, then powered off..
[06:31] <PhantomLink> oh oops
[06:31] <PhantomLink> forgot to on this one
[06:31] <^Einstein> venger: stat and ls confirm that /etc/group hasn't been modified very recently.
[06:31] <indus> PhantomLink: start it from the menu > ssystem>admin>partition manager
[06:31] <venger> ^Einstein, well i don't know that it'd fix it but i'd expect all references to the old name would be there so why not?  he should at least be in his own group
[06:31] <indus> PhantomLink: or terminal type gparted
[06:31] <ardchoille> PhantomLink: Could be a bad burn
[06:31] <Symlink> PhantomLink, or do gparted from the terminal, to see if you get any ouput
[06:32] <Symlink> PhantomLink, I really recommend to ALWAYS check cd for integrity
[06:32] <dew5> ﻿ PhantomLink: "check disk for defects
[06:32] <Symlink> once I started installing ubuntu and there was a single file which was corrupt
[06:32] <Symlink> and my main drive just.. died
[06:32] <adam[pac]> just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  when i open firefox 3.5.5 it only opens one or two pages and then clicking on links no longer works.  if i close and re-open the browser it has trouble re-opening my windows and tabs.  anyone seen this?
[06:32] <PhantomLink> Woah my screen just lit up like christmas
[06:32] <racecar56> O.O
[06:32] <dew5> lol
[06:32] <PhantomLink> Thank you for all the pointers guys :D
[06:32] <dew5> merry christmas
[06:33] <racecar56> ho ho ho
[06:33] <Symlink> !offtopic | racecar56, dew5
[06:33] <PhantomLink> If this fails,  I am definitely going with 8.10
[06:33] <Symlink> (just being a d**k)
[06:33] <racecar56> -_-
[06:33] <PhantomLink> I have a good image of it around here somewhere....
[06:33] <racecar56> gee, thanks.
[06:33] <Symlink> PhantomLink, why not try a usb install?
[06:34] <racecar56> -_-
[06:34] <Symlink> there are really fast
[06:34] <racecar56> USB is FAST?
[06:34] <Symlink> yes
[06:34] <racecar56> not for me.
[06:34] <Symlink> that makes you a particular case
[06:34] <racecar56> it's like 1mbps
[06:34] <racecar56> for me.
[06:34] <Symlink> lol
[06:34] <racecar56> ick
[06:34] <racecar56> SO slow
[06:34] <Symlink> well, I wouldn't know about USB 1.0
[06:34] <Symlink> but I don't think it should be THAT slow
[06:34] <racecar56> but my ports are 2.0 D:
[06:34] <Symlink> I get about 20 mb/s or more
[06:34] <Symlink> Oh
[06:35] <racecar56> headphones
[06:35] <racecar56> :P
[06:35] <PhantomLink> I could, but I don't know if I have a big enough card, and this laptop i'm installing to apparently just has 1.1 ports
[06:35] <racecar56> !offtopic | racecar56
[06:35] <Symlink> PhantomLink, I don't think it shouldn't be that slow either
[06:35] <PhantomLink> But I'll try it anyway, thank you
[06:35] <racecar56> heehee.
[06:35] <ionix> Hey, is there a way to prevent "exit 2" in a thread from killing the program?
[06:35] <Symlink> ok
[06:35] <PhantomLink> (if this fails)
[06:35] <racecar56> test: racecar56
[06:35] <racecar56> aww it doesn't highlight D:
[06:35] <Symlink> PhantomLink, you're a free man
[06:35] <Symlink> nah
[06:36] <Symlink> racecar56, there's your highlight
[06:36] <racecar56> Symlink: :>
[06:36] <racecar56> Symlink: it work.
[06:36] <Symlink> !offtopic | racecar56
[06:36] <racecar56> no, you!
[06:36] <racecar56> !offtopic | Symlink
[06:36] <racecar56> lol.
[06:37] <racecar56> just being silly.
[06:37] <racecar56> ...and annoying
[06:37] <Symlink> ok ok Flanne(l) is going to get mad
[06:37] <Symlink> lol
[06:37] <racecar56> i shall stop
[06:37] <racecar56> AT LAST.
[06:37] <Symlink> we shall both do so
[06:37] <PhantomLink> Check finished:  no errors found...
[06:37] <Symlink> oh gawwd
[06:37] <Symlink> thats weird
[06:37] <racecar56> PhantomLink: :)
[06:38] <PhantomLink> What could be the problem?
[06:38] <Symlink> PhantomLink, try to run gparted from the terminal
[06:38] <PhantomLink> k, will do
[06:38] <Symlink> sudo gparted*
[06:38] <PhantomLink> um...how ?
[06:38] <Symlink> Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[06:38] <venger> ^Einstein, you could kill gnome-screensaver and run it manually with --no-daemon and --debug switches (assuming the passwor lock takes effect)
[06:39] <ryan`c> anyone running 8.04 LTS?  I need someone to try some perl code for me and see if it crashes.
[06:39] <PhantomLink> I mean, how do I get to terminal from the liveCD start screen?
[06:39] <Ben64> ryan`c: i am
[06:39] <Symlink> start screen?
[06:39] <Symlink> why don't you enter the desktop?
[06:40] <PhantomLink> D:
[06:40] <venger> probably Applications -> Accessories
[06:40] <PhantomLink> the livecd part won't run
[06:40] <venger> o, nm
[06:40] <Symlink> so you can't enter the desktop because of that?
[06:40] <Ben64> PhantomLink: download the alternate cd?
[06:40] <gOLDfeesh> How can I play DivX movies frmo the web?
[06:40] <ryan`c> Ben64: Make a perl script that contains nothing but "use MIME::Parser;" and see if it runs
[06:40] <Symlink> PhantomLink, are the guy who was in that hp pavillion pc?
[06:41] <PhantomLink> Symlink, yes
[06:41] <Symlink> stop the nick change riku
[06:41] <Symlink> have you googled it up for ubuntu installation problems?
[06:41] <Symlink> I think the app might be segfaulting
[06:41] <PhantomLink> not yet
[06:41] <Symlink> PhantomLink, how do you know the partition manager is crashing?
[06:41] <PhantomLink> i will if attempt #5 fails
[06:41] <^Einstein> venger: I'm actually doing an apt-get --reinstall first to see if that fixes any purged configs
[06:41] <dew5> ﻿gOLDfeesh: tryed mplayer?
[06:41] <ripthejacker> :s youtube-dl
[06:41] <riku> yessir
[06:41] <Ben64> ryan`c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/332149/
[06:41] <Symlink> ripthejacker, nice nick
[06:42] <gOLDfeesh> dew5, I tried vlc.. but not sure what codecs I need
[06:42] <ripthejacker> Symlink: ty
[06:42] <ripthejacker> :)
[06:42] <Symlink> mac user?
[06:42] <dew5> ﻿gOLDfeesh: i just installed mplayer and it works good
[06:42] <ripthejacker> Symlink: no why?
[06:42] <dew5> google it
[06:42] <PhantomLink> it says disc is missing a binary
[06:42] <PhantomLink> i386 something
[06:42] <ryan`c> Ben64: Thanks.  I fixed my problem.
[06:42] <ripthejacker> :s youtube-dl
[06:42] <racecar56> Symlink: this is #ubuntu, why would mac questions be here..
[06:42] <Ben64> gOLDfeesh: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[06:42] <PhantomLink> dist is in the line too
[06:42] <Symlink> ripthejacker, nah, theres an app in mac called jack the ripper
[06:43] <Symlink> racecar56, close it
[06:43] <Symlink> jk
[06:43] <Plymouth> .
[06:43] <venger> ^Einstein, i'd think logging in or startx would handle such but i guess there could be references to the old username in the . files so you may have to deal with that as well
[06:43] <Symlink> isn't there some pornhub-dl around?
[06:43] <racecar56> .
[06:43] <gzer0> What package do I need except openjdk-6-jre to be able to show applets in Firefox?
[06:43] <dew5> nw Ben64
[06:43] <ripthejacker> Symlink: lol no i wanted jacktheripper not available so chose this
[06:43] <dew5> soz nice work
[06:43] <Symlink> lol
[06:43] <Symlink> how about zacktheripper
[06:43] <Ben64> dew5: yeah, i been using medibuntu repo's ever since i got ubuntu
[06:43] <Symlink> nvm, we're doing offtopic here
[06:44] <Ben64> makes it so easy to work
[06:44] <gOLDfeesh> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  medibuntu-keyring
[06:44] <ripthejacker> Symlink: i have already registered this nick
[06:44] <dew5> lol 9,10?
[06:44] <Ben64> gOLDfeesh: dude you gotta follow all the steps there
[06:44] <MrSun> is the 9.10 SE good?
[06:44] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu under "Adding the Repository"
[06:45] <Flannel> MrSun: what is 9.10 "SE"?
[06:45] <MrSun> server edition
[06:45] <MrSun> anyone have it?
[06:45] <dew5> gOLDfeesh: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[06:46] <gOLDfeesh> what's the mplayer plugin for for firefox?
[06:46] <MrSun> well I'm off ppl, good night. see you tomorrow eh
[06:46] <methods1> i can't seem to get nvidia legacy drivers to work for the newer ubuntu... it use to work fine on the old one... and i can't use the legacy driver from nvidia cause i think it only works with xf86
[06:46] <racecar56> MrSun: byes.
[06:46] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: Best one is gecko-mediaplayer
[06:46] <gOLDfeesh> andrew_46, does it support divx?
[06:47] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: It supports what MPlayer supports, so yes
[06:48] <APERSON> my gnome-pane freezes whenever I click on the clock/calendar.  Anyone have any insight as to why it odes this?
[06:48] <racecar56> BRB
[06:48] <gOLDfeesh> I think I'll stick to mozilla-mplayer thanks though andrew_46
[06:49] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/332152/
[06:49] <reverebeer> hi guys, what package do i need to see the sources of the standard c libraries? for example, where malloc is defined
[06:50] <tehdave> so, in my xterm, the $ sign was replaced by the £ sign (end-of-prompt, as well as for all input) - happened after I swapped vim-tiny to vim-runtime via command line (not sure if that's what did it? would make little to no sense). I'm wondering if it's a glitch somewhere or someone's idea of a joke...kind of funny if you think about it though
[06:50] <gOLDfeesh> heh.
[06:50] <TeamJacob> reverebeer, i think gcc will do
[06:50]  * PhantomLink will wait 20 minutes this time
[06:50] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: mozilla-mplayer is the old version, gecko-mediaplayer is new work by the same developer
[06:50] <PhantomLink> it has a window "Installyng system" up on the screen
[06:50] <gOLDfeesh> oh okay
[06:50] <reverebeer> TeamJacob, yea, im looking at a source for it now....let me check deeper
[06:50] <TeamJacob> reverebeer, maybe they come pre-installed, I don't really know
[06:51] <zroysch> i would like to know why my ubuntu just froze for the second time in as many days
[06:51] <DaZ> zroysch: because it's ubuntu
[06:52] <kiwifunk> hello!
[06:52] <zroysch> no mouse/keyboard input would work, except alt-sysreq-K
[06:52] <reverebeer> TeamJacob, im pretty sure theyre precompiled with the build-essentials package, which includes a binary for gcc, the way most ppl get gcc. so hopefully gcc's source will be of use
[06:52] <zroysch> DaZ: yea real good answer you degenerate
[06:52] <DaZ> <3
[06:52] <dew5> shame i got hacked
[06:52] <TeamJacob> reverebeer, no need for getting sources
[06:52] <PhantomLink> k installing is not going anywhere
[06:52] <TeamJacob> well I think
[06:52] <TeamJacob> I don't know... I'm out anyway
[06:53] <DaZ> zroysch: no logs, no help :F
[06:53] <zroysch> DaZ: what log.
[06:53] <DaZ> everything.log
[06:53] <dew5> any 1 know any thing about nessus?
[06:53] <ardchoille> PhantomLink: have you tried the alternate install cd? I used to have a text-mode installer and might work better if it still does
[06:53]  * PhantomLink searches out his old 8.10 CD
[06:53] <zroysch> DaZ: there is no everything.log
[06:54] <DaZ> [daz@revnet log]$ ls |grep everything
[06:54] <DaZ> everything.log
[06:54] <DaZ> :f
[06:54] <luomo> I have b43xx seris network card and ubuntu 9.10 is recognising it now after installing b43-fwcutter but now my PC try to connect with WIFI or LAN connection and then iwconfig. Please tell me what to do next. Help!
[06:54] <zroysch> DaZ: please do yourself a favor and stop wasting my time. thanks
[06:54] <APERSON> DaZ, be helpful or don't talk, this is serious support only please
[06:54] <^Einstein> venger: it's locking fine, and --debug shows that it is indeed the authing itself that is failing, which is probably an external call of some sort... I have the line number, so I suppose I'll go poke through the source to see what it references.
[06:54] <DaZ> yes, explaining your problem is a terrible waste of time
[06:55] <GamerKnight> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[06:55] <luomo> my PC try to connect and then fails and not coonected message comes
[06:55] <^Einstein> venger: It is odd that it seems to be a different mechanism for "switch user" than is used for "unlock screen"
[06:55] <tehdave> any ideas why the $ symbol in xterm would be replaced by the £ symbol? Just happened after replacing vim-tiny with vim-runtime (via apt-get), but didn't revert when I removed both packages and restored vim-tiny, so I think it might be unrelated
[06:55] <APERSON> zroysch, when you computer freezes, are you able to access a tty?
[06:55] <venger> ^Einstein, who knows could be stale portion of code anyway good luck with it,
[06:56] <Fut> Anyone know why VLC's audio play is very choppy as opposed to other players? I don't have that problem with other players.
[06:56] <Fut> Same audio driver, OSS.
[06:56] <luomo> I have b43xx seris network card and ubuntu 9.10 is recognising it now after installing b43-fwcutter but now my PC try to connect with WIFI or LAN connection and then fails and not coonected message comes and i have tried also iwconfig. Please tell me what to do next. Help!
[06:56] <zroysch> APERSON: nope. the only key combination i found to have results is alt-sysreq-K
[06:56] <dew5> gtg ppl
[06:57] <tehdave> Fut - I've noticed the same thing, but only with certain filetypes/codecs. I prefer SMplayer, myself. Plays anything VLC will play, and has some nice features, but no streaming/etc.
[06:57] <kieranb2> Hi. My server (running Hardy) has randomly decided to stop responding (ie. pages don't load and I can't use ssh). It's Swap Usage has also been high over the past 4 hours which is probably related. Restarting it solves nothing. Any ideas?
[06:57] <APERSON> zroysch, I recommend using REISUB instead of just K
[06:57] <zroysch> APERSON: what is that
[06:57] <Fut> tehdave, yea, i kind of just like the skin's that VLC has to offer.
[06:57] <Fut> Im currently using audacious, seems to play well.
[06:57] <Fut> Just not as pretty, hehe
[06:57] <APERSON> zroysch, that will shutdown properly when it's frozen
[06:57] <APERSON> zroysch, well, *reboot
[06:58] <andrew_46> tehdave: SMPlayer should play streams?
[06:58] <zroysch> APERSON: alt-sysreq-K just brought me back to the login screen.
[06:58] <zroysch> APERSON: are you saying to alt-sysreq-REISUB ?
[06:58] <APERSON> zroysch, yes
[06:58] <luomo> I have b43xx seris network card and ubuntu 9.10 is recognising it now after installing b43-fwcutter but now my PC try to connect with WIFI or LAN connection and then fails and not coonected message comes and i have tried also iwconfig. Please tell me what to do next. Help!
[06:58] <tehdave> andrew_46, eh, I don't usually watch streaming media, just whatever files I actually have on the system, never bothered to dig deep into it
[06:59] <zroysch> APERSON: didnt know that there were that long of shortcuts
[06:59] <PhantomLink> Trying my 8.10 CD
[06:59] <APERSON> zroysch, well, it's several shortcuts
[06:59] <PhantomLink> Then if that fails
[06:59] <PhantomLink> Then I'll DL an alt cd
[06:59] <gOLDfeesh> Yeah I'm unable to watch files on vreel.net
[07:00] <zroysch> APERSON: either way, i'd like to find the cause of the freezing if possible.
[07:00] <PhantomLink> I'll let you guys know how it goes. :D
[07:00] <andrew_46> Fut: Have you tried later the audio-out setting in vlc?
[07:00] <tehdave> on another note, any idea why the $ symbol would be replaced by £ in xterm? any time I put $ in, it comes up as £, as well as at the end of the prompt. Wondering if somehow I managed to set a different keyboard layout just for Xterm but I doubt it
[07:00] <Fut> andrew_46, let me check.
[07:00] <APERSON> zroysch, so you *are* able to get back tot he login screen?  is your disk showing activity when it freezes?  are you using any special video driver?
[07:01] <zroysch> APERSON: dont notice any disk activity. video driver is whatever ubuntu 9.04 gave this intel card on the thinkpad
[07:01] <DaZ> gOLDfeesh: works for me
[07:01] <Fut> andrew_46, "audio-out" what's that under?
[07:01] <Fut> I just see the "output" type option
[07:01] <Fut> As far as "out" goes.
[07:01] <gOLDfeesh> DaZ, should I just unintall goldeneye
[07:02] <DaZ> gOLDfeesh: get a mplayer plugin for browser
[07:02] <DaZ> gOLDfeesh: goldeneye? :f
[07:02] <APERSON> zroysch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[07:02] <luomo> I have b43xx seris network card and ubuntu 9.10 is recognising it now after installing b43-fwcutter but now my PC try to connect with WIFI or LAN connection and then fails and not coonected message comes and i have tried also iwconfig. Please tell me what to do next. Help!
[07:02] <Fut> Nintendo 64 game? hehe
[07:02] <gOLDfeesh> daz, I meant.. vlc browser plugin
[07:03] <DaZ> gOLDfeesh: does the player even show? :f
[07:03] <zroysch> rrrright
[07:03] <gOLDfeesh> no
[07:03] <andrew_46> Fut: Tools --> Preferences --> Audio --> Output --> Type
[07:03] <gOLDfeesh> DaZ, the player doesn't even show up
[07:04] <TeLLuS> zroysch: What login manager? gdm?
[07:04] <tehdave> I don't even know how the hell to look this up o.O
[07:04] <DaZ> gOLDfeesh: so remove it and get mplayer plugin
[07:04] <zroysch> TeLLuS: yes
[07:04] <Fut> andrew_46, ah yea. I already tested all of those options in there, ASLA, OSS, etc..
[07:04] <Fut> Same issue.
[07:05] <tehdave> bleh, ah well, I'm guessing it's just a joke and I'll figure it out later...must sleep
[07:06] <PhantomLink> what the flip
[07:06] <PhantomLink> seriously
[07:06] <gOLDfeesh> the vlc browser plugin is ugly. lol but that did the trick DaZ thanks. The VLC plugin wasn't showing the buffering
[07:06] <PhantomLink> 8.10's liveCD gave me a login screen
[07:06] <PhantomLink> what username do i use?
[07:06] <APERSON> ubuntu is the user on any of the livecds
[07:07] <PhantomLink> okay thankies
[07:07] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: http://www.andrews-corner.org/samples/vreel.png
[07:07] <PhantomLink> what the flying woah
[07:07] <andrew_46> gOLDfeesh: This is the gecko-mediaplayer at work :)
[07:07] <PhantomLink> it says incorrect username or password with ubuntu
[07:07] <maco> PhantomLink: user and pass should both be ubuntu, i think
[07:08] <PhantomLink> still wrong
[07:08] <TeLLuS> zroysch: Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:08] <PhantomLink> Now i'm weirded out
[07:08] <PhantomLink> It looks like it has been installed, no kidding...
[07:08] <SIGBAAM> can anyone tell me if ubuntu is suited for a usb drive installation? i know it's possible but is it efficient (will not burn out the drive and save changes in rom until log out)
[07:09] <zroysch> TeLLuS: am i looking for something specific or should i pastebin
[07:09] <gOLDfeesh> andrew_46, my screen is all black.. do I have to change the video to gl or x11?
[07:10] <Boohbah> SIGBAAM: burn out the drive?
[07:10] <TeLLuS> zroysch: Begin with that log
[07:10] <PhantomLink> SIGBAAM, I've been running ubuntu on usb for a year now with no problems
[07:10] <Boohbah> SIGBAAM: save changes into read-only memory? wtf are you talking about?
[07:11] <zroysch> TeLLuS: http://pastebin.com/f7b500634
[07:11] <SIGBAAM> PhantomLink: are you using it as a "liveUSB" or a full install?
[07:12] <SIGBAAM> Boohbah: sorry, RAM
[07:12] <PhantomLink> I'm using my trusty old 8.10 livecd...
[07:12] <the_madman> Lo everyone.
[07:13] <SIGBAAM> PhantomLink: can you save changes to it? or is it like a live cd?
[07:13] <PhantomLink> sigbaam it booted into ubuntu like it was already installed on the computer <_<
[07:14] <Kartagis> !hi | the_madman
[07:14] <SIGBAAM> okay phantomlink, thanks :)
[07:14] <PhantomLink> oh wait
[07:15] <the_madman> Whenever I start up my system, I get an error message before I can log in, which reads something like, "/dev/input/event7: file or folder not found". Thing is, it's there now, and if I just click cancel it tries to go to the log-in screen successfully.
[07:15] <SIGBAAM> what?
[07:15] <PhantomLink> i thought you were asking me about my cd lol
[07:15] <PhantomLink> SIGBAAM, it works fine
[07:15] <PhantomLink> on usb
[07:15] <g1er> is there a way to check charging voltage/aperage using terminal?
[07:15] <g1er> on a laptop..
[07:16] <SIGBAAM> okay i'm lost here.. can you install apps on the usb and have them there when you reboot?
[07:16] <APERSON> g1er, it depends on your hardware
[07:16] <APERSON> SIGBAAM, yes, if you enable persistent install
[07:17] <psteyn> whats the command to ensure that something like 'ntpd' starts at boot?
[07:17] <PhantomLink> this live cd keeps booting me to a login screen
[07:17] <PhantomLink> And I don't have a flashdrive :S
[07:18] <indus> PhantomLink: username is ubuntu and password blank
[07:18] <PhantomLink> tried that too
[07:18] <PhantomLink> blank as in type blank?
[07:18] <SIGBAAM> Aperson: is this done manually? or is it done by gui or what ever? i'm new to usb os stuff
[07:19] <APERSON> SIGBAAM, if you use ubuntu's live usb creator, it's an option that has a checkbox
[07:19] <g1er> APERSON: ah, ok. we just had a power outage and laptop.. ran dead on battery, once power was restored laptop wouldn't boot 'past grub' (ubuntu, windows, a live CD) until I uplugged it and booted on battery. boots fine now tho...
[07:19] <SIGBAAM> okay thanks APERSON
[07:19] <TeLLuS> zroysch: Is that with all updates installed?
[07:20] <APERSON> so, does anyone know why ubuntu depends on evolution-data-server?  it seems to be what's making my gnome-panel freeze
[07:20] <maco> APERSON: because e-d-s is what makes the clock applet work
[07:20] <maco> APERSON: and a few other gnome applets
[07:21] <maco> APERSON: you can remove the server as long as you keep e-d-s-common, it hink
[07:21] <maco> *think
[07:21] <APERSON> maco, I just killed it, and my gnome-panel works better now :)
[07:21] <APERSON> and no, the only package of evolution you can keep is evolution-data-server :/
[07:21] <APERSON> err, have to keep
[07:22] <ardchoille> I removed everything except e-d-s, it wanted to remove tons of needed stuff so I kept that
[07:22] <APERSON> I've stripped ubuntu many times to know that I have to keep it :/
[07:22] <maco> APERSON: oh ok.
[07:23] <APERSON> In any case, it's what was making the calendar freeze my panel
[07:24] <TeLLuS> zroysch: Check version of intel  xserver-xorg-video-intel, I know there was some problems before karmic..   I need to go now.
[07:25] <zroysch> TeLLuS: ok. not sure how to check a version of that. thanks
[07:26] <TeLLuS> zroysch: sudo dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel
[07:26] <nu-girl> hai everyone
[07:26] <maco> nu-girl: howdy
[07:26] <nu-girl> can you help me?
[07:26] <zroysch> thats not a girl.
[07:26] <maco> nu-girl: what's the problem?
[07:27] <DaZ> zroysch: o rly?
[07:27] <maco> zroysch: and you have proof of this?
[07:27] <nu-girl> how to check my graphic card?
[07:27] <Jet^Skier> cat /proc/pci
[07:27] <maco> nu-girl: "lspci" in a terminal should list it. maybe "lscpi | grep VGA" to narrow it donw
[07:28] <nu-girl> can i view it from here?
[07:28] <optimizer> http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html is hilarious
[07:29] <Jet^Skier> nu-girl:  open terminal (black bacground window)
[07:29] <maco> nu-girl: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[07:29] <maco> Jet^Skier: uh default is white background...
[07:30] <shamelessn00b> lol, black background window
[07:30] <PhantomLink> what's the room for damn small linux?
[07:30] <APERSON> optimizer, feel free to talk about your link in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:30] <g1er> umm, #dsl?
[07:31] <nu-girl> i shows up something that i don't understand, can you tell me either my graphic card is okay or not?
[07:31] <PhantomLink> thank you
[07:31]  * Jet^Skier is running ubuntu 9.10 and terminal is black here..
[07:31] <maco> nu-girl: if you can see the screen, your graphics card is ok
[07:31] <shamelessn00b> nu-girl: screenshot?
[07:31] <APERSON> Jet^Skier, it's white by default
[07:31] <shamelessn00b> nu-girl:  do you see any artifacts?
[07:32] <nu-girl> but i don't see special effect, what must i do?
[07:32] <maco> nu-girl: system -> preferences -> appearance -> desktop effects
[07:32] <Jet^Skier> wow, I haven't used it in that long?
[07:32] <maco> nu-girl: try enabling them through there
[07:32] <maco> Jet^Skier: you robably customized it yourself
[07:32] <maco> Jet^Skier: as long as ive used ubuntu, white has been default
[07:32] <maco> (thats since dapper)
[07:33] <Jet^Skier> No, it's white.  I feel like such a douch
[07:33] <nu-girl> nope,i don't see no desktop effects in my preference, sorry, am i missing something, do i have to install something first?
[07:33] <maco> nu-girl: appearance is the menu option
[07:33] <shamelessn00b> nu-girl:  which version are you on?
[07:33] <maco> nu-girl: desktop effects is a tab in the appearance thing
[07:34] <Jet^Skier> which distro is nu-girl running?
[07:34] <maco> nu-girl: are you using Kubuntu by any chance?
[07:34] <Jet^Skier> mmmm
[07:34] <nu-girl> it's GOS, it's ubuntu right?
[07:35] <Fut> Is there a way to set Gedit to view line#'s?
[07:35] <Fut> I can't seem to find it.
[07:35] <Fut> Kind of pain in the butt to code and click on random items to view the line message down below.
[07:35] <nu-girl> it shows me that Desktop effects cannot be enable
[07:35] <maco> nu-girl: ok. is there something like system -> administration -> hardware drivers ?
[07:35] <DaZ> Fut: preferences
[07:35] <nu-girl> yes
[07:35] <hellomon> Fut: is on e botto
[07:36] <maco> nu-girl: go in there and enable proprietary drivers for your graphics card
[07:36] <Fut> lol, no clue why i never saw them in preferences before DaZ.
[07:36] <Fut> Prob just needed someone to point it out, lol
[07:36] <nu-girl> it is enable
[07:36]  * Fut feels like an idiot.
[07:36] <Fut> Thanks.
[07:36] <DaZ> Fut: because it should be under view [;
[07:36] <maco> nu-girl: have you rebooted since enabling it?
[07:37] <nu-girl> the status is in use
[07:37] <shamelessn00b> reboot
[07:37] <Anorien> hi. whats the apt-get command to install xfce? apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[07:37] <mka> Hi
[07:37] <nu-girl> okay, i'll reboot
[07:37] <g1er> hi mka
[07:37] <mka> I got a karmic DVD but my laptop says it is blank
[07:38] <mneptok> Anorien: that gets you XFCE and all the associated apps.
[07:38] <shamelessn00b> your lappy lies
[07:38] <mka> How can I fix that?
[07:38] <Anorien> mneptok: so i use that command?
[07:38] <mneptok> Anorien: yes
[07:38] <Anorien> ty mneptok
[07:38] <mka> shamelessn00b: what next?
[07:39] <Jet^Skier> mka: is it a dvd or cd?
[07:39] <shamelessn00b> mka: howd you mount it?
[07:39] <mka> Jet^Skier, it is a DVD
[07:39] <PhantomLink> FOUND IT
[07:40] <mka> shamelessn00b: I just insert it and then a pop up shows up that I should Burn the blank dvd
[07:40] <PhantomLink> Apparently there's only 191MB ram on this laptop
[07:40] <PhantomLink> but there's two 256 sticks installed
[07:40] <g1er> mka, are you sure it isn't blank? (friend gave it to ya.. gave ya the wrong dvd by chance...)
[07:40] <mka> gler: yes I am sure another laptop can discover it properly
[07:41] <PhantomLink> so i probably just need to get new ram for it
[07:41] <Jet^Skier> mka: look at it,there should be a shadow region on the business side of the dvd.  if you can't see it, it is blank
[07:42] <mka> Jet^Skier: believe me it is NOT blank!!
[07:42] <Jet^Skier> Then your dvd drive may be defective
[07:42] <Jet^Skier> Try a cd version instead
[07:42] <hellomon> or u can put it in another computer to make sure its not blank
[07:42] <mka> Jet^Skier: that too bad
[07:43] <hellomon> if it reads it then ur dvd drive is fucked up
[07:43] <g1er> or usb :)
[07:43] <maco> !langauge | hellomon
[07:43] <maco> !u | hellomon, also...
[07:43] <mka> hellomon: It can read original CD's
[07:43] <mka> hellomon: I just ripped three original CDs yesterday
[07:43] <Jet^Skier> can anyone tellme where to get an easy USB install version?
[07:43] <hellomon> oh i guess your drive is messed up then
[07:44] <mka> hellomon: this is why I am here, I need a fix
[07:44] <shamelessn00b> we dont fix broken dvd drives here lol
[07:45] <hellomon> i guess you can go buy a external one and install what you need then return it. hehe the azn waaa
[07:45] <hellomon> way*
[07:45] <shamelessn00b> lol
[07:45] <maco> hellomon: 1) thats unethical 2) ....did you just say something racist about asians?
[07:46] <hellomon> naw. im asian. and i do that sometimes
[07:46] <hellomon> haah
[07:46] <g1er> mka, when was the last time your pc read a origional DVD?
[07:47] <g1er> *
[07:47] <Jet^Skier> Get an eternal USB housing for an IDE drive then hook up a cheap cd-rom to it.  Ebay, 8 bucks
[07:47] <mka> g1er: I dont remember
[07:47] <PhantomLink> i will have to wait until i can buy new ram for my new laptop
[07:47] <PhantomLink> for now dsl should work, right?
[07:47] <APERSON> Jet^Skier, get unetbootin
[07:47] <g1er> ...hate to keep throwing the duh ?s out there.. but is it indeed a dvd reader...
[07:48] <mka> shamelessn00b: then what do you do?
[07:48] <shamelessn00b> too busy slacking mka :)
[07:49] <mka> shamelessn00b, gler: Ok, I rest my case, I will replace the optical drive
[07:50] <shamelessn00b> idk, my dvd drive doesnt even get detected by windows, and on linux it runs fine
[07:50] <shamelessn00b> lol
[07:50] <Jet^Skier> aperson, I'm a hardware geek
[07:51] <APERSON> Jet^Skier, you asked where to get the usb install version
[07:51] <APERSON> unetbootin would provide that
[07:51] <arvind_khadri> hi, i installed debian after installing karmic, but i skipped the step of installing grub in debian, how do i generate grub entries for debian now?
[07:51] <APERSON> I bet #debian could help you with that
[07:51] <Jet^Skier> aperson, yes
[07:52] <Jet^Skier> unetbootin, got it
[07:52] <^Einstein> I have a slight problem and I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. I can log in fine but after changing the username fields in passwd and shadow (not group) then back again, gnome-screensaver's PASSWD_HELPER_PROGRAM in ext_run in gs-auth-helper.c returns false. How do I figure out what this is defined as? It's a bunch of autoconf magic that defines that, and so it doesn't appear anywhere in the precompiled source.
[07:52] <arvind_khadri> APERSON, i dont think so :) as the entries to be generated is in ubuntu
[07:52] <^Einstein> Is there someone here that's either really familiar with autotools, or really familiar with gnome-screensaver, that might shed some light on why the credentials are verified differently between apps like this?
[07:52] <g1er> arvind_khadri: you need to edit the menu.lst file located in /boot/grub/ (that's about all the help I can be..
[07:53] <APERSON> arvind_khadri, if you're running debian, their support channel is where you go :)
[07:53] <^Einstein> arvind_khadri: boot into a live distro and run grub-install
[07:53] <arvind_khadri> APERSON, now am running karmic, grub2 is here on karmic
[07:54] <arvind_khadri> g1er, thats with grub-legacy :) thanks anyways
[07:54] <arvind_khadri> ^Einstein, :S i dont have one..i use alternate cd's
[07:54] <g1er> arvind_khadri: oh, ya I'm still runnin 9.04 :) sry
[07:54] <^Einstein> arvind_khadri: can you not boot into any *nix OS at all on that system?
[07:55] <Jet^Skier> what IRC client is easier than xchat in ubuntu 9.10?  I want something more familiar like MIRC???
[07:55] <APERSON> Jet^Skier, xchat isn't easy?
[07:55] <g1er> irssi :D
[07:55] <g1er> heh
[07:55] <Jet^Skier> aperson, it is
[07:55] <^Einstein> Jet^Skier: search synaptic for 'irc', and you won't find a much more mirc-ish client than xchat for linux.
[07:55] <dem0> wine plus mirc
[07:55] <arvind_khadri> ^Einstein, ya i can boot into karmic, i am talking from karmic now...i tried grub-mkconfig but that doesnt find debian
[07:56] <hellomon> xchat
[07:56] <^Einstein> although I bet you could run mIRC in wine, Jet^Skier
[07:56] <Jet^Skier> LOL dem0
[07:56] <Anorien> did ubuntu recently updates its kernel?
[07:56]  * init[1] defocus
[07:56] <Anorien> updated*
[07:56] <Jet^Skier> I will not run wine
[07:56] <APERSON> arvind_khadri, ubuntu's wiki covers this, afaik
[07:56] <APERSON> !grub | arvind_khadri
[07:56] <^Einstein> arvind_khadri: really? check fdisk, is it finding your debian partition?
[07:56] <APERSON> oops
[07:57] <APERSON> !grub2 > arvind_khadri
[07:57]  * Jet^Skier hasn't used window$ since 2000
[07:57] <arvind_khadri> APERSON, yeah reading it...
[07:57] <mka> ok thanks anyway guys
[07:57] <APERSON> adding entries to gru 2 seems to be relevant
[07:57] <hellomon> how do i make my grub start up instead of the windows bootloader?
[07:58] <PhantomLink> Thank you for the help everyone.
[07:58] <PhantomLink> Goodnight.
[07:58] <bilalakhtar> @hellomon are you using WUBI or dual boot
[07:58] <bilik07> semarang
[07:58] <hellomon> bilalakhtar: well i used WUBI to make a dual boot
[07:59] <JonathanWinters> The person you are chatting with has an IP address
[07:59] <JonathanWinters> of a registered sexual offender. Please use caution
[07:59] <JonathanWinters> when dealing with a potentially dangerous individual
[07:59] <JonathanWinters> and do not give out ANY personal information.
[07:59] <bony> dose anyone know approximately how many Free/Open Source developers,volunteers,contributors are there in the world?
[07:59] <FloodBot5> JonathanWinters: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> hellomon: if its a proper install simply point the bios at the drive with grub installed
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bony
[07:59] <knoppies> JonathanWinters, whats that about?
[07:59] <hellomon> ActionParsnip: and how do i do that? is there a command?
[07:59] <knoppies> !grub
[07:59] <bony> ActionParsnip, oops sorry
[07:59] <jessicasco1> may I ask a question?
[07:59] <dem0> anyone had the weird bug where ubuntu starts eating free space while doing nothing_
[08:00] <maco> !ask | jessicasco1
[08:00] <bilalakhtar> hellomon:- If you used WUBI for dual boot, I dont think you can use GRUB. If you want to move ubuntu into a separate partition, you can use :-http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[08:00] <knoppies> jessicasco1, whats the question?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> hellomon: you will need to enter the system bios to hange the bootable device. the win bootloader will still exist (i'm assuming you have 2 physical drives) but grub will be doing the booting from now
[08:00] <bilalakhtar> hellomon:- after this, you can use GRUM
[08:00] <bilalakhtar> sorry GRUB
[08:00] <jessicasco1>  how to view the source of the program in linux?
[08:00] <Balsaq> i was trying to purge my buntu, while in terminal, the computer told me i could install root ...do i need root?
[08:00] <Balsaq> what will root do
[08:01] <jessicasco1> for example,  the program-- talk
[08:01] <Jet^Skier> VI
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> hellomon: if you only have 1 disk you will need to reinstall grub from livecd so that both systems can boot
[08:01] <dem0> maybe root beer :D
[08:01] <maco> Balsaq: purge your ubuntu? install root?
[08:01] <maco> Balsaq: root is a user, not something to install...
[08:01] <hellomon> ActionParsnip: kk thanks
[08:01] <Jet^Skier> Or VIM Jessicascol
[08:01] <jessicasco1> I mean where to get the source code
[08:01] <maco> jessicasco1: "apt-get source <PACKAGE>" will download the source of the package you name
[08:02] <dem0> anyway, eating free space bug, anyone?
[08:02] <Balsaq> what is sudo apt-get install root-system-bin?
[08:02] <JonathanWinters> i had that
[08:02] <Balsaq> that what the computer told me
[08:02] <maco> jessicasco1: assuming youve enabled source repositories in system -> administration -> software sources
[08:02] <nikandtas> есть кто нибудь по русски говоряший? (RUSSIAN)
[08:02] <JonathanWinters> i deleted linux and it was fine after
[08:02] <dem0> open synaptic to make ur life easier
[08:02] <maco> !ru | nikandtas
[08:02] <nikandtas> thanks)
[08:02] <JonathanWinters> what did he say about communism?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> !find root
[08:02] <maco> JonathanWinters: what?
[08:02] <jessicasco1> thank you
[08:03] <Balsaq> this is my computer and somehow i am not root
[08:03] <dem0> root beer  :D
[08:03] <maco> !root | Balsaq
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Balsaq
[08:03] <maco> !sudo | Balsaq
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> maco: covers things nicely
[08:03] <JonathanWinters> john the ripper can find the root password just fine sir
[08:04] <dem0> rofl
[08:04] <Balsaq> !root
[08:04] <maco> JonathanWinters: there IS NO root password to find
[08:04] <Jet^Skier> there is a way to get root in Ubuntu.  I tried it a few years ago and it did not work out too well
[08:04] <maco> JonathanWinters: the word communism did not come up in that russian sentence at all. just says "anyone speak russian?"
[08:04] <JonathanWinters> no
[08:04] <JonathanWinters> im pretty sure it did
[08:04] <APERSON> maco, #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:04] <Balsaq> my brother in lse has been with hp for 30 years...he said i am not root and i shoould be as i own the computer
[08:04] <dem0> LOL
[08:04] <maco> JonathanWinters: are you trolling? cuz i read russian
[08:04] <Flannel> JonathanWinters: Please take non support discussions elsewhere, thanks.
[08:04] <dem0> hp, LOOL
[08:04] <JonathanWinters> ?????????
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: in short, forget root. If you need admin powers use gksudo (for gui apps) and sudo (for command line apps)
[08:05] <dem0> better yet, go windows and forget about root :D
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: its disabled for security but you can achieve all you need with gk/sudo
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: forget root, you don't need it
[08:05] <Balsaq> security, i own the computer?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: ask your brother to explain sudo to you
[08:06] <dem0> omg, please shot him
[08:06] <Flannel> Balsaq: "root" doesn't have any correlation to ownership
[08:06] <JonathanWinters> balsaq give me ur htpasswd
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: read the factoids, sudo is a far more secure option for systems
[08:06] <Balsaq> he was in here messin around showing me stuff and noticed i am not root
[08:06] <tsimpson> Balsaq: you don't need to be root, you can just you sudo and your password to gain root privileges
[08:06] <dem0> have fun
[08:06] <maco> Balsaq: when anyone tries to attack your computer, they know to try username root and then only try to guess password to break in and have free run of everything
[08:06] <Flannel> Balsaq: That's correct.  You're not root.  But that's not a problem.
[08:06] <Balsaq> yes i know my password
[08:06] <maco> Balsaq: theyd need to guess both your username AND your password with the default setup
[08:07] <maco> Balsaq: this makes it an exponentially more difficult problem
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: thats all you need, if you ever need admin access use sudo, problem solved
[08:07] <Balsaq> well i want to clean out my computer
[08:07] <dem0> make Balsaq-Linux :DDDD
[08:07] <dem0> ciao bambinos!
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: if you log in as root EVERY app you run wil be ran AS root too, so malicious java, attatchments in email and malicious flash can and will modify system sensitive files
[08:08] <Jet^Skier> Balsaq use DBAN
[08:08] <Balsaq> get rid of all the cache, history and useless pieces of files left over from uninstalls
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: as a user the browser is ran AS user so has limited access
[08:08] <APERSON> Balsaq, bleachbit will clean you system out
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: sudo apt-get clean
[08:08] <Flannel> Balsaq: That's fine.  You don't need to be root for that.
[08:08] <Balsaq> ok sudo apt-get clean...that will do it?
[08:09] <ardchoille> Balsaq: Everything you've mentioned can be done with sudo. There is no need to log in as root user
[08:09] <Balsaq> thats it?
[08:09] <maco> Balsaq: itll empty out /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:09] <JonathanWinters> delete system32
[08:09] <APERSON> Balsaq, that will clean out your apt cache
[08:09] <tsimpson> Balsaq: remove the downloaded package cache (the .deb files)
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: that will clean the old debs from your apt cache, you can clean the browser down by using the browser itself
[08:09] <maco> Balsaq: .deb files are like Setup.exe...it gets rid of those
[08:09] <Balsaq> i want to clean it all out
[08:09] <APERSON> JonathanWinters, that isn't helpful support
[08:09] <ardchoille> !sudo | Balsaq You really need to read this page:
[08:09] <maco> Balsaq: if you do "sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE" itll uninstall *and* remove systemwide config files for PACKAGE
[08:09] <jeff__> q
[08:09] <Balsaq> yes i have done some sudos
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: you can also run computer janitor (its in the menus) it requires admin access so will ask you for your password as it uses gksudo, you can then clear out the files it thinks are surplus
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: yes, sudo gives you power
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: thats what we've been telling you
[08:10] <Balsaq> yes i have done a few of the sudos
[08:10] <b0nn> hi all, my videocard goes into some sort of screensaver mode, after a time, but I don't know how to bring it out of that mode, save for wiggling the mouse
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: and is exactly why root is neither needed nor supported
[08:10] <Jet^Skier> Balsaq: if you want to completely wipe the HD and start from scratch, use DBAN (Darik's boot and Nuke)
[08:10] <b0nn> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:10] <Anorien> hi. could someone please help me/teach me how to setup xfce as default session to login and make gnome not start up anymore?
[08:11] <Balsaq> no i dont want to wipe everything just mt internet history and a couple uninstalls i did
[08:11] <APERSON> b0nn, are you sure you aren't going into sleep or hibernate?
[08:11] <APERSON> Balsaq, sudo aptitude install bleachbit
[08:11] <Balsaq> so its beachbit
[08:11] <ardchoille> Balsaq: Read that sudo page ubottu posted for you, it will answer most if not all of your questions
[08:11] <APERSON> Balsaq, bleachbit is a system cleaner
[08:11] <Balsaq> thawill like a ccleaner
[08:11] <Balsaq> i want a ccleaner for buntu
[08:11] <APERSON> Balsaq, exactly
[08:12] <Ben64> Anorien: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[08:12] <Balsaq> ok so it is beachbit then
[08:12] <MenZa> bleachbit.
[08:12] <b0nn> APERSON: I have mplayer running, noise coming out, but black screen
[08:12] <Anorien> Ben64:  its installed. how do i set it up as default?
[08:12] <hellomon> b0nn: corrupt file? or try restarting mpalyer
[08:12] <Balsaq> so i suppose if i install beachbin the software will be self explanatory
[08:12] <Ben64> Anorien: you should be able to select it at the login screen
[08:12] <holmser> anyone here use a dvorak keyboard?
[08:12] <b0nn> hellomon: for all files
[08:13] <APERSON> Balsaq, try it out and see
[08:13] <MoralExpl> I accidentally Deleted my pannel which displays open windows etc... how do I bring it back
[08:13] <Balsaq> ok here goes
[08:13] <Balsaq> brb
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: you can read around if you don't understand it
[08:13] <hellomon> oh
[08:13] <b0nn> also, when mplayer is stopped, the screen stays black
[08:13] <tsimpson> Balsaq: bleachbit, not beachbin
[08:13] <ardchoille> Anorien: log out. when you get to the GDM screen, there should be a for "Session", click that and choose your desired session. After entering the username and password, the system will ask if you want to make it the default
[08:13] <Anorien> Ben64: i dont have "Options" at login screen
[08:13] <Balsaq> yes beachbit
[08:13] <Balsaq> brb
[08:13] <Anorien> ardchoille:  i dont have it, just a "username" window
[08:13] <hellomon> is there a undo shortcut like windows? cuz ctrl+z donest work
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: if you clear out the browser cache and old deb files you have done most of the job
[08:13] <tsimpson> Balsaq: no, bleachbit, there is an 'l' in there
[08:13] <Anorien> brb, retrying
[08:14] <Balsaq> ok is bleachbit
[08:14] <ardchoille> Anorien: there should be a button or link for "session" along with others like "restart", "shutdown" etc
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: you can also run: sudo apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-gt --purge remove `deborphan`
[08:14] <Madpilot> hellomon, ctrl+z usually works - which app are you using?
[08:14] <Balsaq> which is the best ccleaner
[08:14] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, bleachbit clears much more than just clean the apt-cache and browser caches
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: will removed orphaned packages for you and clear out more rubbish
[08:14] <APERSON> Balsaq, bleachbit, just go try it
[08:14] <jlu> hello, I'm trying to compile a simple kernel module in karmic. I have linux-headers-2.6.31-15-generic. I'm still missing some asm/* files. Where can I find them?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: let me check it
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: does it require x?
[08:15] <hellomon> Madpilot: just the file explorer cuz when i accidently delete something i cant undo it. i have to go to the trash and restore it
[08:15] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, likely
[08:15] <b0nn> is there a way to restart X remotely?
[08:15] <Balsaq> brb
[08:15] <Madpilot> hellomon, ah. Yeah, Nautilus doesn't have an undo. would be nice.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: i use the command i gave above a lot to clear out orphaned stuff, its groovy
[08:15] <jlu> Can I just use the ones from /lib/modules/2.6.31-15-generic/build/include/asm-x86?
[08:15] <hellomon> Madpilot: arggggggggggggggggggggg
[08:16] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I ran it on my eepc and it cleaned up 664MB of space!  I had my trash empty and my apt-cache cleared before hand too!
[08:16] <TeLLuS> b0nn: yes
[08:16] <APERSON> b0nn, as long as x knows what display on, yeah
[08:16] <MoralExpl> I accidentally Deleted my pannel which displays open windows etc... how do I bring it back
[08:16] <hellomon> new panel?
[08:16] <APERSON> MoralExpl, you can't alt+f2?
[08:16] <b0nn> hmm,
[08:17] <APERSON> MoralExpl, or did you just delete your window list applet
[08:17] <MoralExpl> APERSON, I believe the latter, the thing on bottom
[08:17] <MoralExpl> hit delete for
[08:17] <MoralExpl> Dunno why
[08:17] <minerva> hello
[08:17] <MoralExpl> but I'm fixing it
[08:17] <APERSON> MoralExpl, you're going to have to be a tad clearer as to what specifically you need.  maybe a screenshot will be best?
[08:17] <FloodBot5> MoralExpl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <MoralExpl> APERSON, Yea, ill screen shot
[08:18] <tsimpson> b0nn: ssh in, and use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart", that will kill _all_ X sessions though
[08:18] <APERSON> MoralExpl, I find imgur.com to be a good upload service for one-off stuff
[08:18] <minerva> as a computer idiot, would it be insane for me to try ubuntu on my PC?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: nice, lets see how ths flys
[08:18] <maco> minerva: not that im calling my mom an idiot, but....
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: delete old kernels too to get ~120Mb a kernel
[08:19] <maco> minerva: she says its easier than windows
[08:19] <minerva> wow, really
[08:19] <minerva> hmm
[08:19] <b0nn> tsimpson: tnx, now I have my desktop back on my tv :)
[08:19] <minerva> i think i'm going to do a dual install just to try it out
[08:19] <holmser> minerva, my mom loves it as well
[08:19] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I make sure to keep spare kernels to a minimum :)
[08:19] <minerva> i have two hds in my machine
[08:19] <minerva> i can put it on the other one
[08:19] <Madpilot> minerva, the desktop Ubuntu CD is a LiveCD, just boot from that, try it out, and it doesn't touch your Win install
[08:19] <minerva> well i'm downloading it
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: is there a way to configure the OS to only keep 2 kernels and remove old kernels as new ones are added?
[08:19] <minerva> when i burn it to cd, can i run it from there?
[08:19] <holmser> Its easy, and the support is excellent
[08:20] <holmser> ubuntu forums ftw
[08:20] <roflparrot> yeah burn it to cd, boot off the cd and try before you install
[08:20] <minerva> ok
[08:20] <minerva> interesting
[08:20] <r_s___> I'm frustated about short time releases of linux (every 6 months), how can I be stable without formatting and with upgrading ? Is it always safe to upgrade to the next release ? Please help !!
[08:20] <roflparrot> but the installed OS is better obviously
[08:20] <MoralExpl> APERSON, http://imgur.com/DJzGr.png On bottom before, the windows were named, and larger.
[08:20] <hellomon> can i use the LIVECD and use gparted to add more partition?
[08:20] <ardchoille> minerva: yes, you can boot directly into the livecd and play
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> minerva: you can even install to usb so you don't have to disturb the internal drive :)
[08:20] <minerva> i have a somehwat old pc
[08:20] <minerva> erm
[08:20] <roflparrot> yes gparted works from the livecd
[08:20] <minerva> i'm not sure i know how to do that action
[08:20] <zerq> it's pretty safe to upgrade to the latest version, once it's the actual release version
[08:20] <minerva> as i said, computer idiot over here
[08:20] <roflparrot> System > Administration > Partition Editor
[08:21] <Balsaq> is thing an enema?
[08:21] <littlegreen> minerva just google for "Linux liveUSB"
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> hellomon: yes you can resize to get more partitions (they will total the sum of the original size though)
[08:21] <hellomon> so i can add more memory from gparted?
[08:21] <holmser> minerva: you can also install with wubi, just put the disk in the drive while you are in windows and it will install it right along side your windows OS, no partitioning
[08:21] <hellomon> oh ok
[08:21] <hellomon> thanks
[08:21] <Balsaq> i just gave this computer an enema
[08:21] <Madpilot> minerva, "somewhat old" shouldn't be an issue
[08:21] <roflparrot> memory like ram?
[08:21] <r_s___> zerq: thx
[08:21] <minerva> wubi?
[08:21] <APERSON> MoralExpl, you just need to add a new applet to your panel then
[08:21] <maco> minerva: old computers tend not to be able to boot from USB
[08:21] <Balsaq> that bleachbit is strong
[08:21] <MoralExpl> APERSON, gotcha Im fooling around with it right now
[08:21] <MoralExpl> seem to be getting somewhere
[08:21] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I swear I saw something about that not too long ago
[08:21] <maco> minerva: or at least USB flash drives. even my 1 year old laptop cant do it
[08:21] <Balsaq> i wonder what i just got rid of
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> minerva: its part of the system, boot to CD and you can install to USB. Make sure you md5 test the file you download too
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | minerva
[08:21] <minerva> maco, i think mine can, but booting from the cd will work fine
[08:22] <APERSON> MoralExpl, window list is the one you deleted
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: i was ages ago so I'm asking now :)
[08:22] <bilik07> ool
[08:22] <bilik07> kp'[ik
[08:22] <bilik07> k[ko
[08:22] <bilik07> kl;]o
[08:22] <bilik07> lm'
[08:22] <FloodBot5> bilik07: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <bilik07> mklp;mki
[08:22] <hellomon> wait will it work if i install gparted on my system and add more partition memory from there?
[08:22] <minerva> er
[08:22] <maco> minerva: wubi does a dual boot without partitioning by using a file inside windows' filesystem as the basis for your ubuntu install
[08:22] <Balsaq> i kept the terminal open on my browser ..can i print it so i can keep a record of what i just did?
[08:22] <ardchoille> minerale: Keep in mind that the livecd may be a bit slower than the same system after installing to the hard drive
[08:22] <maco> !ops | bilik07 is troll flooding
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: cos that would  be sweet, i've seen people on netbooks with 4Gb storage and have like 5 kernels
[08:22] <minerva> maco, that's ok, i don't need to partition, as i have two hds
[08:22] <ardchoille> minerva: Keep in mind that the livecd may be a bit slower than the same system after installing to the hard drive
[08:23] <maco> minerva: yeah, i was just explaining the wubi thing mentioned above since you asked
[08:23] <hellomon> well when u use WUBI it askes how much memory you wanna partition
[08:23] <minerva> ardchoille, it can't be as slow as my windows
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> minerva: you have to partition or yuo cant write data to the drive surface
[08:23] <ardchoille> minerva: Ah, fair point :)
[08:23] <littlegreen> Balsaq did you try to copy/paste in gedit?
[08:23] <maco> ActionParsnip: you missed hte part about minerva having 2 hard drives
[08:23] <roflparrot> minerva no it is still quite fast
[08:23] <roflparrot> but cds are slow
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: is the number in the bottom let the amount it has cleaned?
[08:23] <minerva> well
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> maco: still needs partitioning
[08:23] <Balsaq> no littlegreen
[08:23] <minerva> i'm in complete windows frustration mode so i may just install it to my second hd
[08:23] <maco> ActionParsnip: and it IS possible to format a drive without having any partitions on it
[08:23] <Balsaq> how do i do that
[08:24] <maco> ActionParsnip: you can simply format the entire thing
[08:24] <roflparrot> minerva you might as well
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> maco: tru but i'm sure the installer will moan there is no / partition
[08:24] <roflparrot> you can always come back and ask us how to remove it
[08:24] <minerva> heh
[08:24] <maco> ActionParsnip: then / would simply be sdb instead of sdb1
[08:24] <Balsaq> copy is not lit up littlegreen, paste is lit up
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> maco: does that actually work?
[08:24] <maco> ActionParsnip: why not?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> maco: i see your point
[08:25] <littlegreen> Balsaq select the text you want to print with holding the left mouse button and dragging the mouse pointer through all the text, then right click with the mouse somewhere on the text, click on "Copy", open gedit and Ctrl+V... it's simple as that
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> maco: touche
[08:25] <ardchoille> maco: Don't you need a partition in order to have a file system?
[08:25] <maco> ActionParsnip: i cant think of any reason why it shouldnt... mkfs doesnt care if its a partition or not
[08:25]  * bleah hi
[08:25] <maco> ardchoille: nope
[08:25] <maco> ardchoille: you can mkfs on /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 no problem
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> maco: its just a block device after all
[08:26] <Balsaq> how do i open gedit littlegreen
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: i just reclaimed 1.2Gb dude
[08:26] <hellomon> ardchoille thats what i thought. these ppl are confusing me
[08:26] <roflparrot> to format a drive, you need to define a partition and its format, amirite?
[08:26] <littlegreen> Balsaq write "gedit" in terminal
[08:26] <jlu> anyone had luck compiling a kernel module in karmic?
[08:26] <maco> hellomon: its not *common* by any means, but its certainly possible
[08:26] <ardchoille> maco: I've tried that in the past and it didn't work
[08:27] <Balsaq> so i begin with gedit
[08:27] <Steil> sudo rm -rf /home
[08:27] <Balsaq> ok
[08:27] <hellomon> i see
[08:27] <maco> hellomon, ardchoille: ive formatted flash drives without partitioning
[08:27] <Balsaq> brb
[08:27] <Steil> someone told me to type that
[08:27] <Flannel> !danger
[08:27] <Balsaq> thanks
[08:27] <ardchoille> Steil: Please don't post that kind of command
[08:27] <DaZ> dun dun dunn
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: i'm kinda blown away too but makes sense
[08:27] <maco> ardchoille: theyve been kicked
[08:27] <DaZ> /* is funnier >:
[08:27] <maco> Flannel: do you have "sudo rm -rf" on highlight?
[08:27] <maco> DaZ: eviler!
[08:27] <DaZ> funnier
[08:28] <Madpilot> DaZ, never funny.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> DaZ: yes > /dev/null   is funny too, chews your cpu good
[08:28] <DaZ> Madpilot: always
[08:28] <Flannel> DaZ: Would you like to be removed from the channel as well?
[08:28] <pratik> madarchot
[08:28] <ardchoille> maco: kicked? good, but I would have banned them as they know exactly what they were posting
[08:28] <roflparrot> cat /dev/zero > /dev/null used up cpu yeah
[08:28] <roflparrot> but it didn't lockl my system
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot: try yes instead
[08:29] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, nice!
[08:29] <roflparrot> ActionParsnip: example?
[08:29] <Madpilot> OK, would everyone stop posting Stupid Command Line Tricks, thanks?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot: yes > /dev/null
[08:29] <roflparrot> no
[08:29] <roflparrot> ok imma try
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: helped by the 700Mb ISO in trash ;)
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: still running it seems
[08:30] <APERSON> Madpilot, command line commands are the easiest way to give support, as you simply have to copy and paste commands.  It is far more consistent that using a gui to give support
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: +1
[08:31] <hellomon> +1
[08:31] <bakarat_> is the upgrade path from 9.04 to 9.10 somewhat stable now?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: but new guys always say "i shouldnt have to do this. I'm not a programmer!"
[08:31] <bakarat_> considering upgrading my work laptop, but i can't really afford it die on me
[08:31] <Madpilot> APERSON, that wasn't what I was telling people to stop. I was commenting on some of the "CPU locking" and filesystem wrecking.. stuff.
[08:31] <hellomon> well ive been using 9.1 for about a week now. its alright
[08:32] <bakarat_> hellomon, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[08:32] <roflparrot> ok I have two instances of yes > /dev/null going and cpu has maxed both cores, I have a song playing and it skipped when I opened system monitor
[08:32] <hellomon> fresh.
[08:32] <APERSON> Madpilot, well, forgive me, I didn't read all of my scrollback
[08:32] <Balsaq> littlegreen its working
[08:32] <bakarat_> hellomon, ah, well it's the upgrade path i'm worried about :D
[08:32] <P_Kable> Hello, how do I restore my grub from the live cd please ?
[08:32] <Balsaq> its printing
[08:32] <hellomon> oh. haha.
[08:32] <APERSON> Having an eeepc means this channel moves fast!
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | P_Kable
[08:32] <littlegreen> Balsaq Nice to hear it
[08:33] <Balsaq> littlegreenawesome explanation
[08:33] <alo> halo
[08:33] <Balsaq> actionparsnip thanks
[08:34] <littlegreen> Balsaq I'm glad I helped
[08:34] <luomo> My DHCP connection with my modem is not working. Any help
[08:34] <Balsaq> APERSON Thank you very much i have it
[08:34] <Balsaq> installed it
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: easy stuff dude
[08:34] <Balsaq> have no clue what i just cleansed but i really cleansed it
[08:34] <Balsaq> pages of it?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: i suggest you explain the virtues and advantages of sudo to your HP employed friend
[08:35] <Balsaq> yup
[08:35] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, /etc/apt/apt.conf/20archive might be what we're looking for setting the number of kernels we keep
[08:35] <Balsaq> he's a windows guy
[08:35] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, but I'm not sure, that dir seems to be a place to look
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: yep, thought so
[08:35] <littlegreen> luomo what kind of modem exactly are you using?
[08:35] <Balsaq> well at least i have a record of all this stuff i whacked
[08:35] <APERSON> Balsaq, glad I could help.  You cleared lots of logs and caches
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: windows users are created as admin so they have full reign over their systems and most just log in as admin to do their daily stuff
[08:36] <Balsaq> now  if i want to bleach it again do i still follow the same command or wil lthat install it over the install
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: same thing applys, all browsers are ran as adminn so any virus will have full access to all system files
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: then they moan they get problems
[08:36] <luomo> modem is for DSL internet connection and dhcp connection with it is not working.It is manufactured by my service provider
[08:37] <Guest74170> my sound goes mute early as i turn it down even though it isn't all the way down on the sound meter on the screen
[08:37] <Balsaq> yeah he just couldnt figure out why i wasnt root ..ket tellin me i meissed something
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: vista has this stupid asking "are yuo really sure" pop up which most users hack their system to remove
[08:37] <littlegreen> luomo so you have a DSL router you cannot access?
[08:37] <Guest74170> it jumps]
[08:37] <luomo> yes i can access on windows but not on ubuntu 9.10
[08:37] <littlegreen> luomo are you using wired or wireless connection?
[08:37] <Balsaq> if i want to bleach it out again in a few weeks. do i follow the same command or will ibe installing it over top of itself?
[08:38] <luomo> i cant connect to both type of connections
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: no need to reinstall it, just run the app
[08:38] <Balsaq> ok so the app is in my menus now somewhere...ill find it
[08:38] <Balsaq> cool
[08:38] <littlegreen> luomo is that a PC that you are using or a laptop?
[08:38] <luomo> a laptop
[08:38] <Balsaq> wow thanks
[08:39] <ardchoille> Balsaq: should be in Applications > System
[08:39] <Balsaq> ok looking thanks
[08:40] <littlegreen> luomo what is the output of the "ifconfig" in terminal?
[08:40] <Balsaq> weird its there...twice...one says bleachbit...one says bleachbit (as root)....printed just like that?
[08:40] <Guest74170> my sound goes mute early as i turn it down even though it isn't all the way down on the sound meter on the screen. the sound jumps from mute to loud and it sucks
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: if your friend comes over, open a terminal and run: sudo -s     he'll feel right at home then ;)
[08:41] <Balsaq> but its therewell iwas telling him about the sudo apt get install non free stuff
[08:41] <Guest74170> who knows about this?
[08:41] <Balsaq> why is bleachbit listed twice
[08:41] <luomo> no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> wmaster0  no wireless extensions.
[08:41] <luomo> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"UTStarcom"
[08:41] <luomo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:1B:57:F4:F7:EF
[08:41] <luomo>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[08:41] <FloodBot5> luomo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <littlegreen> luomo don't paste like that... ever again!
[08:42] <ardchoille> maco: May I pm you?
[08:42] <Balsaq> ActionParsnip he did all kinds of crazy stuff to my computer was typing like a madman
[08:42] <luomo> ok i am sorry
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: not used it until now personally. i'd imagine one targets root home (pointless) and the other the users home
[08:42] <maco> ardchoille: i guess...
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: maybe APERSON can fill us in
[08:43] <littlegreen> luomo seems like you have established a wireless connection... did you try to input your IP manualy?
[08:43] <Balsaq> freaked me outyes in my system it now has bleachbit...and bleachbit (as root)
[08:43] <Zargle> Port 80 is blocked how might i get around that?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Zargle: forward the port in your router
[08:44] <Zargle> yah my ISP blocks it
[08:44] <luomo> no
[08:44] <Zargle> yes..
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, you can run it either as your user or as the admin
[08:44] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:44] <Balsaq> which do i use next time, plain ole bleachbit or bleachbit (as root)...as it says in my sytem...oh well who cares i am way better off now
[08:44] <littlegreen> Zargle routers use port 80 for their administration panels. I suggest you forward that port or use port 8080
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, tjhe admin user can remove more things, but is all more dangerous
[08:44] <Balsaq> ok i see you say either one
[08:44] <Balsaq> thanks
[08:44] <APERSON> Balsaq, I run it as user first, then the admin
[08:45] <luomo> My wireless connection is not establishe. It shows:"wireless is not connected"
[08:45] <Zargle> http://www.changeip.com/at/kb-print/27.html
[08:45] <Balsaq> ill do it the safer way
[08:45] <APERSON> Balsaq, right on :)
[08:45] <Guest81437> −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F)
[08:45] <luomo> and how to input the ip
[08:45] <Zargle> im trying to do a remote access
[08:45] <Balsaq> and ill print what i remove
[08:45] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, best information so far I can find is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels
[08:45] <Guest81437> can someone help me with my volume jumping around on the meter?
[08:45] <Zargle> any idea
[08:45] <littlegreen> Zargle use port 8080
[08:46] <APERSON> but /etc/default/kernel-helper-rc doesn't exist
[08:46] <littlegreen> Zargle remote access for what exactly? Port 80 is, in most cases, used for http
[08:46] <Zargle> im using transmission... and im trying to do a remote access its says using port 9010
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -rf ~/.pulse*
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: then press alt+f2 and type: pulseaudio
[08:47] <luomo> littlegreen:My wireless connection is not establishe. It shows:"wireless is not connected" and how to input the ip?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: see if that helps
[08:47] <Zargle> would that work out of lan
[08:47] <exploreralex> where can we get a list of commands used in terminal and kayboard shortcuts?
[08:47] <exploreralex> keyboard*
[08:47] <littlegreen> luomo there should be an networking icon on one of your panels. Doesn't left-click shows available wireless extensions?
[08:48] <Balsaq> wow i feel 10lbs lighter...ahhhhhhhhyou see my in law put an nvidia driver in here and my screen was stretched sideways...so i dumped it after he left and now its perfect but i knew there was more too it then that and i do see it got cleaned up on the bleachbit print out
[08:48] <littlegreen> Zargle port 9010 is not blocked, judging by the info you gave
[08:48] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:48] <damo22> is a cheapo geforce 9400GT compatible with ubuntu?
[08:48] <Zargle> i have DMZ enabled don't that port forward all of the ports?
[08:48] <Zargle> Error: I could not see your service on 68.6.98.138 on port (9010)
[08:48] <Zargle> Reason: Connection refused
[08:48] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: it's still doing it
[08:49] <damo22> whats a really cheap nv card that is fully supported by ubuntu?
[08:49] <littlegreen> Zargle not exactly. That error doesn't suggest not-forwarded ports. Look for the problem elsewhere
[08:49] <Hans_Henrik> umm.. how can i manually add themes to gtk 2x?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: hmm, if you run: lspci | grep -i audio     you may find bugs for the sound card or maybe guides
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> !theme | Hans_Henrik
[08:50] <luomo> i ahvent tried that option. I will do this
[08:50] <littlegreen> damo22 most NVidia graphical adapters ARE supported by ubuntu
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> damo22: any geforce 6xxx series is grooovy
[08:50] <Balsaq> ok time for bed thanks again
[08:50] <damo22> ActionParsnip: umm cool, wish i knew where to get an oldschool one like that
[08:51] <roflparrot> I have two 6xxx sitting on my shelf
[08:51] <roflparrot> a friend gave them to me
[08:51] <Guest81437> that just told me what my audio device and driver is
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> damo22: ebay
[08:51] <roflparrot> I used them when my 8800 died
[08:51] <roflparrot> and they worked fine
[08:51] <littlegreen> damo22 does the machine you want to get an NVidia for has AGP or PCIE slot?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: yes, you can now use that to websearch
[08:51] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, huzzah! dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d'
[08:51] <Zargle> http://192.168.2.9:9010/transmission/web/
[08:51] <Zargle>  wouldnt that work
[08:51] <Zargle> port 9091
[08:51] <Zargle> usname and password
[08:52] <monestri> any scim users here?
[08:52] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, pipe the output of that to xargs aptitude remove -y and you've got something to autoremove kernels :)
[08:52] <monestri> can't figure out how to switch input methods / turn it on
[08:52] <Hans_Henrik> Eye of Gnome 2.28.1 doesn't display the "animation" in animated gif's/png's with the default settings in Karmic, is that a bug?
[08:52] <monestri> ctrl + space does nothing for me
[08:52] <damo22> my computer mobo just died, im thinking of purchasing a really cheap dual core computer from scratch.... i found one on ebay for a couple hundred.... just need a really cheap video card
[08:52] <maco> APERSON: wow, i need to save that
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: dude, thats some crazy stuff
[08:52] <damo22> pci-e
[08:52] <littlegreen> Zargle that's internal IP address... doesn't get out of the router's subnet at all
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> I can't get my eee 1000HE to connect to wireless after suspend :(
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: (copy)
[08:52] <APERSON> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/74965
[08:52] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[08:52] <APERSON> I stole it from there
[08:52] <Zargle> yes im connected to wifi on my phone and on the computer
[08:53] <Zargle> shouldnt it work
[08:53] <Zargle> for torrents every port i use it says Port is closed
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    is it a broadcom wifi?
[08:53] <ervina> uh
[08:54] <ervina> tman donk
[08:54] <littlegreen> damo22 if the PC is with an AGP slot I would suggest Nvidia 6600 - It's the best choice for AGP. PCI Express well... you can always get .... something more ;-)
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: let me check
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: 2.65Gb and completed running bleachbit
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: nice app fellah
[08:54] <Zargle> TCP? or UDP? Littlegreen? what ports should i forward
[08:55] <littlegreen> Zargle both
[08:55] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, be restricted to a 4gb drive, and see how much you look for solutions to saving space :)
[08:55] <Zargle> alright what port? inbout? 80-80
[08:55] <Zargle> 8080-8080
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: can imagine, netbooks are sweet though
[08:56] <f00bar80> i used to UNetbootin to install ubuntu to my usb stick , but when i tried to reboot i got "no bootable partition in table" ,  any comment ?
[08:57] <Nige> hello
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: damn, somebody moved it (family member, not sure what they did with it), sorry :(
[08:57] <APERSON> f00bar80, what flash drive you you have? not all can be booted from, especially sandisk cruizers
[08:58] <Nige> I am trying to use dvdbackup backup my dvd collectino at home, however it cant find libdvdread4 which is installed. I have checked playing of dvd via vlc which works correctly
[08:58] <Nige> any hints
[08:58] <f00bar80> APERSON, Lexar
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: is there a known issue with the eee's wireless?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: well, if it is (wait for the site to come up again (its down)) and use these guides: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[08:58] <hareldvd> Can I configure nautilus to mount network disks on a different directory than ~/.gvfs ??
[08:58] <APERSON> Darkfoe, what eeepc? mine works fine
[08:58] <q0_0p> hareldvd, manually mount it
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, i'll check that when I find the machine
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: its just crappy broadcom things not waking up, so you need a small script to re-modprobe the driver and they wake up
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON: eee 1000HE
[08:58] <q0_0p> hareldvd, what r u trying to mount
[08:58] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, eeeuser is a great community, btw
[08:59] <f00bar80> APERSON, any comment ?
[08:59] <APERSON> f00bar80, can't say I do, sorry
[08:59] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?
[08:59] <APERSON> f00bar80, unless you can bring up a boot menu from your BIOS
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON: hmm, half their news seems to be windows related...
[08:59] <q0_0p> hareldvd, http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html
[09:00] <f00bar80> APERSON, my boot menu shows USB HARDDISK USB FLOPPY and USB CDROM , and that's the order i used for the boot menu
[09:00] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, their wiki and their forums are great though, generally
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> APERSON, ActionParsnip: is there any difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-netbook_remix other than the interface?
[09:01] <APERSON> DarwinSurvivor, it's about the same, NBR might be stripped a tad
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: thats it, the gui is different to suit the small screens on netbooks
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> at first i install unr but the person who uses the machine doesn't like the interface, and karmic doesn't have the "switch to desktop mode" thing anymore :(
[09:01] <APERSON> I always just install normal ubuntu and tweak it myself
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: i use ulite andbuild upwards, less bloat
[09:02] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, ulite?  what about ubuntu-minimal?
[09:02] <q0_0p> ulite has the apt-get feature?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: indeed
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, nice
[09:03] <Kottizen> Where do I find the login-window-settings like in 9.04? Now it's only like 3 options, before you could change theme etc.
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, so all i would have to do is add repos and im good?
[09:03] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, with ulite?
[09:04] <ervina> aq butuh tman nie
[09:04] <littlegreen> !themes Kottizen
[09:04] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I wonder if adding that kernal removal script to /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ would be a good idea...
[09:04] <littlegreen> Kottizen Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: setup a virtual system and try ;)
[09:05] <APERSON> ActionParsnip, I'll just make a snapshot of my eee and do it on the real thing :P
[09:05] <janpogocki> hello, is irc.ubuntu.com alias of freenode.net ? is it the same server?
[09:05] <Kottizen> littlegreen: I know where to find them, but not how to i install a login-theme.
[09:05] <APERSON> janpogocki, yes
[09:05] <Kottizen> janpogocki: It is.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: yeah it installs a barebones system and you can install what you need. If you are just going to install ubuntu-desktop then you are wasting your time
[09:05] <littlegreen> janpogocki I think so
[09:05] <janpogocki> ok, thanks :)
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> APERSON: sounds like a plan, 4gb snapshot aint too bad ;)
[09:05] <hey_boy> Hello guys, I want to use Speech Recognition in Ubuntu. Any good sites / programs suggestions?
[09:05] <Timbauns> hello why does this phrase not work in my terminal?
[09:05] <Timbauns>  :(){ :|:& };:
[09:06] <Timbauns> It jsut dows not work =(
[09:06] <ardchoille> !danger
[09:06] <maco> !danger\
[09:06] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, can i add ubuntu karmic repos to update libraries? would that be ok?
[09:06] <Timbauns> ?
[09:06] <ardchoille> Timbauns: Please don't post that anymore
[09:06] <Timbauns> why so?
[09:06] <APERSON> can we just ban him?
[09:06] <ardchoille> I wish
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: well it will use karmic repos by default
[09:07] <APERSON> post it again and I'll notify an op
[09:07] <maco> Timbauns: do you know what that command does?
[09:07] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, wont it bug about not having ubuntu-desktop?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: what does that do? looks crazy
[09:07] <Timbauns> no
[09:07] <ratbert> any major bugs in the 9.10???
[09:07] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, just wondering
[09:07] <maco> ActionParsnip: fork bomb
[09:07] <maco> it crashes your system
[09:07] <Timbauns> maco: no it does not work
[09:07] <Timbauns> holy crap? why does it not work then?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> maco: gotcha
[09:07] <roflparrot> testing forkbomb...
[09:07] <indus> maco: i hear there wont be any new theme again in 10.04?
[09:07] <ardchoille> Timbauns: This needs to go to another channel, not here
[09:07] <APERSON> if by crash, you mean freeze, yes
[09:07] <maco> Timbauns: stop trying to get us to try it out so you can laugh
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> maco: simple reboot fixes it i guess ;)
[09:08] <maco> indus: *shrug* im a kubuntu person. dunno what those gnome people are doing
[09:08] <anitha> I am unable to use lock screen & screensaver
[09:08] <indus> maco: aah ok K Is beautiful
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i guess but I always clean install so upgrading to new distro isnt an issue (thats the time you'll need the annoying metapackage)
[09:09] <indus> maco: actually i wonder why people had such long discussions on forums about the look, they already have it with kubuntu
[09:09] <APERSON> anyone have any good solutions for imaging a drive to a samba share or ssh ?
[09:09] <maco> indus: they do not yet know the awesome that is kde ;-)
[09:09] <hey_boy> Any help available on Speech Recognition?
[09:09] <indus> maco: i want to move to it now, iam tired of ugliness
[09:09] <roflparrot> yeah the forkbomb works a treat
[09:09] <ratbert> this may be a stupid question but does ubuntu has a firewall?
[09:10] <indus> also those threads give the impression ubuntu is ugly, add a K and all is good
[09:10] <APERSON> ratbert, yes, iptables
[09:10] <ardchoille> !firewall | ratbert
[09:10] <indus> ratbert: yeah ufw
[09:10] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i'm just using ubuntu 8.10 and just grabing what i need to run programs from karmic repos
[09:10] <roflparrot> the linux kernel has iptables and userland applications like frestarter interfaces them
[09:10] <maco> ratbert: iptables is included but unconfigured by default. lack of configuration is not an issue, however, since no services are listening on any ports by default. this is effectively like "drop all"
[09:10] <APERSON> ratbert, I like to use firestarter to configure it
[09:10] <indus> ratbert: so what APERSON means is that ufw is a front end to manage the underlying firewall called IPTABLES
[09:11] <indus> ratbert: USE gufw a gui frontend
[09:11] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, new versions to programs needs newer libraries so i just did it like that; same with U-lite?
[09:11] <lyhana8> hi, I got some problem with the gnome-panel. It seem to fail to launch correctly and I need to kill him then is restart and work fine
[09:11] <APERSON> so is firestarter
[09:11] <ardchoille> maco: Best description I've seen yet
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: thats what i do, i install lxde then once in the gui I can instll my usual stuff, then carve out the drivers I dont use and start building from there
[09:11] <hey_boy> Hello guys. any Idea about Speech Recognition on Ubuntu 9.10?
[09:11] <maco> APERSON: gufw has a much nicer interface than firestarter
[09:12] <maco> hey_boy: i didnt know there was any...
[09:12] <ratbert> indus is it top edge :D
[09:12] <APERSON> maco, to each their own :)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> hey_boy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[09:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: wrong direction
[09:12] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: he is looking for speech to text apps hey_boy
[09:12] <maco> APERSON: heh i use iptables directly
[09:12] <ganjanaut> question.  how come i can't get no graphic equalizer for my totem
[09:12] <indus> ratbert: what do you mean topedge? iptables is a full featured firewall, but its complicated
[09:12] <APERSON> I have firestarter added to my /etc/sudoers and have it set in /etc/network/if-up.d to start it whenever there is a network connection :0
[09:13] <maco> APERSON: i used to use firestarter, but i just saw some gufw screenshots and hey thats nice
[09:13] <indus> firestarter is bad i hear, unmaintained now
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> hey_boy: text to speech == espeak (one option)
[09:13] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, have u tried fluxbox?  thats the lightest i've gone
[09:13] <maco> ganjanaut: gstreamer does not support equalizers
[09:13] <ratbert> indus the default one will do just fine??
[09:13] <indus> i dont get it though, a command line tool to use another command line tool :D
[09:13] <ganjanaut> maco: blast!
[09:13] <indus> ratbert: default yea
[09:14] <ganjanaut> confound it all
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: i dont know of any other firewalls
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: in linux i mean
[09:14] <ganjanaut> i needs me a volume boost.  i needs it!
[09:14] <ratbert> thanks indus
[09:14] <ratbert> cee ya
[09:14] <APERSON> maco, holy crap!  last update in 05, upon checking SF
[09:14] <indus> ratbert: use or install gufw to control
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: yeah its real good, very good hotkey support. flwm is as light as i'v tried but it dodnt stay long
[09:14] <maco> APERSON: hehe
[09:14] <APERSON> maco, maybe I'll give ufw a try :)
[09:15] <maco> APERSON: ufw is command line. gufw for gui.
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i think anything is fine as long as i got gnome-do
[09:15] <ganjanaut> maco: is there a system-wide one i can use?
[09:15] <APERSON> maco, yeah, thanks
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: theres fluxbuntu too ;) (unofficial release)
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, go minimal and just have gnome-do
[09:15] <maco> ganjanaut: nope. its possible to overdrive using pulseaudio if you just need all around louder...but ive never done it
[09:15] <APERSON> ganjanaut, open up the sound prefs and move the slider past 100%
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i go minimal and use guake
[09:15] <APERSON> q0_0p, I used to do that
[09:15] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, whats guake?
[09:16] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: getting back to the volume thing: this only happens in ubuntu, not windows, so I know its not the hardware
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !info guake | q0_0p
[09:16] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, ah kind like yakuake
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: and tilda, yes
[09:16] <ganjanaut> APERSON: the slider doesn't go to 11
[09:16] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i use that yakuake since im on kde3.5
[09:16] <monestri> any scim users about?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: thats all i need for pretty much everything except web browsing
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, cool
[09:17] <APERSON> ok, I'm off to image my eeepc
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, guake looks cool
[09:17] <APERSON> I'll be back!
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: does the same thing as yakuake
[09:17] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, i know
[09:18] <q0_0p> ActionParsnip, yakuake never ran good on gnome
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> q0_0p: i found tilda a little flaky, guake feels solid
[09:19] <Anorien> hi. XFCE and Samba dont work together or something? im missing the Places-Network i had in Gnome.
[09:19] <Guest81437> ActionParsnip: getting back to the volume thing: this only happens in ubuntu, not windows, so I know its not the hardware
[09:19] <danjerous> Where can I get the key for a repository in ppa.launchpad.net?
[09:19] <Jack_> exit
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest81437: well yeah, the volume control is a software construct
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: what error do you get?
[09:20] <tsimpson> danjerous: from the launchpad page, or use the ppa: format
[09:20] <aperson> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<nameofppa>
[09:20] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[09:21] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: gpg --armor --export 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5 | apt-key add -
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: you need that command after
[09:22] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip, danjerous: or you can use "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5"
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> danjerous: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/apt-get-update-how-to-solve-no-public-key-available/   helps
[09:22] <TopGear> Mornin
[09:22] <agorist> Does anyone have Tagging working in Tomboy Notes ??
[09:22] <danjerous> ActionParsnip: Hm, thank you very much. If you can give a hint what to do if  I want to remove it from ~/.gnupg/ now ? :)
[09:23] <wubuntu> Why does my volume icon keep disappearing ?
[09:23] <wubuntu> Anyone happen to know ?
[09:23] <tsimpson> danjerous: I think "gpg --delete-key 4E5E17B5"
[09:24] <wubuntu> Or how I might be able to get it back ?
[09:24] <danjerous> tsimpson: That's it, thanks :)
[09:24] <aperson> lets see how long this image takes to do!
[09:25] <wubuntu> Anyone.. ?
[09:25] <wubuntu> losha: You there ?
[09:26] <rumpsy|jobler> hey guys
[09:27] <rumpsy|jobler> i need a simple option to be activated, all i need is when i right click i want terminal as a option to be listed
[09:28] <rumpsy|jobler> how can i achieve it.
[09:28] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right?
[09:28] <aperson> rumpsy|jobler: sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal
[09:29] <wubuntu> Can someone tell me how to restore my volume icon ?
[09:29] <rumpsy|jobler> okay, thank you
[09:29] <aperson> or use your package manager of choice
[09:30] <littlegreen> which is the lightest DE?
[09:30] <rumpsy|jobler> ubuntu is DE
[09:30] <maco> rumpsy|jobler: ubuntu is a distro
[09:30] <littlegreen> no, Gnome is DE, KDE is DE
[09:31] <q0_0p> wubuntu, u can go to terminal and type in 'gnome-' and spam the tab till u find it?
[09:31] <aperson> littlegreen: xcfe, openbox, flux, e17...
[09:31] <littlegreen> aperson thanks
[09:31] <maco> littlegreen: DE? Xfce, i think. standalone window manager? twm, maybe?
[09:31] <tsimpson> littlegreen: probably xfce, for pre-made installs anyway
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <tsimpson> !ot | jizzack
[09:31] <Madpilot> wubuntu, gnome-volume-control is what you want, I think
[09:31] <maco> if i was using a window manager alone for everything, itd be xmonad
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <jizzack> i just farted
[09:31] <FloodBot5> jizzack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <rumpsy|jobler> wacky, you try "lxde"
[09:32] <maco> !ops | jizzinmy1ants OT floods
[09:32] <Madpilot> maco, way ahead of you :)
[09:32] <Shtl> Hello all
[09:32] <maco> Madpilot: doh hehe thanks
[09:33] <serhiy> Shtl Hello
[09:33] <wubuntu> Madpilot: I got that to run
[09:33] <wubuntu> But I don't see a way to add that to the panel
[09:33] <Madpilot> wubuntu, when it started, it didn't put itself back in your notification area?
[09:34] <Shtl> serhiy: i downloaded mint-8 iso image , but its not matching checksum, its means that i have to once again download from scratch???
[09:34] <wubuntu> Madpilot: Nope
[09:34] <jussi01> !mint | Shtl
[09:34] <aperson> wubuntu: you can try restarting gnome-panel: killall gnome-panel
[09:35] <wubuntu> aperson: Still didn't reappear
[09:35] <Madpilot> wubuntu, odd. it should have put itself back in your notification area. You didn't delete the notification area by mistake? network-manager and stuff still visible?
[09:36] <wubuntu> Network manager and other stuff visible
[09:36] <Madpilot> jizzinmy1ants, want to find a more appropriate nick, please?
[09:36] <wubuntu> Madpilot: XChat's icon appears to be gone too
[09:37] <serhiy> Shtl ,sorry, but I am new in Linux
[09:37] <Madpilot> wubuntu, strange
[09:38] <ARTSIOM> Hi All!
[09:39] <aperson> which do we think would be faster?:  dd of=/dev/sda | bzip2 | ssh user@host "/path/of/backup" or dd of=/dev/sda | ssh user@host "bzip2 | /path/of/backup" ?
[09:39] <Madpilot> wubuntu, pls ask before PMing, as a general rule.
[09:40] <wubuntu> Oh, sorry
[09:40] <Archilles> By setting Adapter 2 to Host-only (in Virtual Box) should allow to listen on ports, right???????????
[09:40] <ARTSIOM> I have added my dit to PATH to /etc/enviroment /root/.profile and /root/.bashrc. Commands from this dir are now accesible from my user, but not accessible when running under the sudo. Where I should also add a path to make available to sudo?
[09:41] <aperson> where the destination has quite a bit more cpu power, and this is regular 10/100 ethernet
[09:41] <mnemoc> hi, do you know any apt-friendly way to get thunderbird-3.0 but not the daily build?
[09:43] <wubuntu> Well, if anyone finds a solution..
[09:43] <wubuntu> Let me know
[09:44] <aperson> mnemoc: I believe you can add the mozilla team ppa
[09:44] <mnemoc> aperson: thanks, i'll search for it
[09:44] <aperson> wubuntu: my network icon sometimes fails to show, but all I do is restart my panel
[09:44] <aperson> mnemoc: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozilla-team
[09:45] <Madpilot> wubuntu, did you try "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal?
[09:45] <wubuntu> Madpilot: Yeah
[09:45] <aperson> Madpilot: yes they did
[09:45] <serhiy> who use Grdc?
[09:45] <mnemoc> aperson: oh, i didn't know that one
[09:45] <wubuntu> And it just restarted hem all
[09:45] <wubuntu> But volume didn't come back
[09:45] <aperson> mnemoc: it's really nice to have!
[09:46] <mnemoc> aperson: does it magically add the gpg key too?
[09:46] <ARTSIOM> so, does anybody know where I should add dir to PATH to make commands available to sudo?
[09:46] <aperson> mnemoc: yessir!
[09:46] <mnemoc> aperson: awesome!
[09:47] <aperson> mnemoc: works only for launchpad afaik though, and everything you add via that end up in its own entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:48] <llutz> ARTSIOM: set it for root, use sudo -H
[09:48] <aperson> anyone know that command that gives you a progress bar for operations?
[09:49] <mnemoc> pv ?
[09:49] <madel> hi all, I'm using gcc-4.4.2 to compile a code using option -O3 -fopenmp, when running the compiled program I receive this error "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found"
[09:49] <madel> any help?
[09:50] <aperson> mnemoc: thanks! that was it
[09:50] <mnemoc> aperson: yw :)
[09:51] <serhiy> hey, who use Rdesktop with mapping local printer by RDP to WIN server?
[09:51] <ARTSIOM> llutz: yes, but I have already added PATH=$PATH:/mydir to /root/.profile and /root/.bashrc, but commands from /mydir are still not accesible when I run them under sudo
[09:52] <llutz> ARTSIOM: used sudo -H?
[09:54] <ARTSIOM> llutz: should I set the HOME every time? is it possible to add PATH persitanly?
[09:54] <llutz> ARTSIOM: if not, users env is used
[09:55] <ARTSIOM> llutz: but I has also added the same dir to PATH in /etc/environment and commands are available to my user
[09:55] <q0_0p> is it possible to put a print server on the dmz?
[09:55] <wubuntu> Relogging fixed the problem
[09:55] <q0_0p> just wondering
[09:55] <wubuntu> But I don't understand what's happening
[09:56] <llutz> ARTSIOM: maybe config-issue in sudoers-file then. read "man sudoers", theres some options to handle env/pathes
[09:58] <Rioting_Pacifist> how stable is btrfs? will it definatly get corupted on a crash or just maybe?
[09:59] <Madkiss> Rioting_Pacifist: it will maybe definetely get corrupted.
[10:00] <Rioting_Pacifist> which will be faster for / (i.e i don't care about corruption just speed)
[10:00] <serhiy> q0_0p: hello
[10:01] <Rioting_Pacifist> i'd guess btrfs over ext4 but i'm not sure
[10:01] <q0_0p> serhiy, hi
[10:01] <q0_0p> serhiy, do i know u
[10:01] <khelvan_a> Hello, what is the proper way to uninstall a .deb package that I installed via sudo dpkg -i?
[10:02] <serhiy> q0_0p ,do not know me
[10:02] <MenZa> khelvan_a: sudo dpkg -r <package>
[10:03] <serhiy> q0_0p , u use rdesktom maybe?
[10:03] <neekers_> for a server on the internet, what version of ubuntu is best to install as far as long term updates and support?
[10:03] <q0_0p> serhiy, i think so
[10:04] <MenZa> neekers_: I'd recommend 8.04, and update it to 10.04 when that's released in April.
[10:04] <serhiy> q0_0p and use CLI or GUI for it?
[10:05] <MenZa> neekers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline <- an excellent chart showing the support of the different releases.
[10:05] <neekers> MenZa: thanks
[10:05] <q0_0p> serhiy, both
[10:05] <MenZa> neekers: Welcome.
[10:06] <serhiy> q0_0p i seek mapping local printer for RDP to Win server
[10:06] <khelvan_a> MenZa, thank you
[10:07] <neekers> i think i'm about to make the big switch from linode to slicehost. i dont like that fact linode doesnt have nightly backups
[10:07] <keio> I have installed java vis synpatic package manager.  How do I get the actual path to java so I can set java_home?
[10:07] <serhiy> q0_0p rdesktop have switch for it, but for users its need in GUI
[10:07] <MenZa> neekers: let's keep this for support - #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics :)
[10:07] <Kartagis> how can I upgrade only one package?
[10:08] <neekers> kk
[10:08] <MenZa> Kartagis: sudo apt-get install <package>, I believe will upgrade that particular package.
[10:08] <serhiy> q0_0p , where u from?
[10:08] <aperson> Kartagis: sudo aptitude install packagename
[10:08] <q0_0p> serhiy, far away
[10:08] <Kartagis> right
[10:08] <aperson> Kartagis: or use whatever package manager you like
[10:08] <Kartagis> thanks
[10:09] <keio> anyone know how I can set $JAVA_HOME?  I can't seem to find java bin.  My eclipse ide is crashing.
[10:09] <adac> ImportError: No module named pydcop Does anyone know which packet does include this python module in karmic?
[10:10] <serhiy> q0_0p  in which the radius from me )
[10:10] <aperson> adac: aptitudes search pydcop turn up anything?
[10:10] <adac> aperson, nothing unfortunatley
[10:10] <q0_0p> serhiy, not sure
[10:11] <MenZa> !find pydcop
[10:11] <MenZa> !find py-dcop
[10:11] <MenZa> hm
[10:11] <adac> !find dcop
[10:11] <serhiy> q0_0p ok man )
[10:11] <q0_0p> MenZa, u can do sudo apt-cache search ur_pkg??
[10:14] <serhiy> flotix__ : hello
[10:15] <guntbert> !ot | serhiy
[10:16] <P_Kable> Is there a tool to get the load charge of a server included in the distro ?
[10:17] <jpds> P_Kable: Load charge?
[10:18] <P_Kable> how can I explain jpds ... to see how used is the CPU, RAM disk ...
[10:18] <jpds> P_Kable: uptime?
[10:19] <q0_0p> P_Kable, htop?
[10:19] <q0_0p> P_Kable, top?
[10:19] <ccooke> P_Kable: well, each of those are easily measured individually. 'top' is a good general tool for CPU and RAM
[10:19] <mnemoc> htop is nicer :p
[10:19] <jpds> ccooke: free -m - will show you RAM.
[10:19] <q0_0p> agreed
[10:19] <jpds> P_Kable: ^
[10:20] <ccooke> P_Kable: System -> Administration -> System Monitor - a graphical tool you might find useful.
[10:20] <ccooke> It's much like the system monitor on Windows,so if you're from that background it will be at least familiar
[10:21] <mnemoc> funny term "load charge"
[10:21] <lyhana8> hi, my mysql-server-5.1 fail to start on ubuntu : http://pastebin.com/d36d3c136
[10:21] <ccooke> jpds: yeah, but I wouldn't generally recommend it to someone who doesn't already know of it.
[10:21] <lyhana8> my cat /var/log/mysql.* are empty where should I look for log ?
[10:21] <q0_0p> !find gnome-system-monitor | P_Kable
[10:21] <lorenzosu> I just re-installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh but I get a grub error 17 at boot
[10:21] <jpds> q0_0p: On a server he said. :)
[10:21] <q0_0p> oh
[10:22] <q0_0p> he might as well use htop or top then
[10:22] <mnemoc> some people adds X and fat DEs to servers...
[10:22] <q0_0p> and ssh into it
[10:22] <jpds> mnemoc: The ones who are doing it wrong.
[10:23] <mnemoc> fully agree :)
[10:23] <khelvan_a> Hi, I'm trying to use dpkg -r to remove a .deb that I installed, but it is telling me that the package hasn't been installed. Are there individual packages inside of one .deb, and if so, is there a way to list them?
[10:23] <ccooke> it's perfectly reasonable to have X libs on a server, as long as there's no X server...
[10:23] <ccooke> Too many third party apps need an X configuration tool, so it's nice to be able to run them over ssh -X
[10:23] <ccooke> (well, usually ssh -CX)
[10:23] <jpds> khelvan_a: Try: dpkg -r <packagename>
[10:24] <q0_0p> thats what i did when i didn't want to manually setup samba
[10:24] <mnemoc> no comment :p
[10:24] <khelvan_a> jpds - I get this: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[10:24] <q0_0p> i agree with u
[10:25] <wubuntu> What's a good package for installing new themes for windows ?
[10:25] <wubuntu> Like themes in Appearance Preferences
[10:25] <lorenzosu> I just re-installed ubuntu 9.10 fresh but I get a grub error 17 at boot
[10:25] <maco> khelvan_a: so dont do the whole .deb, just the bit before _
[10:26] <jpds> khelvan_a: Not the file name of the .deb, just the package name like "ubuntu-desktop"
[10:26] <serhiy_> lorenzosu, use liveCD and edit Grubmenu
[10:26] <khelvan_a> maco, jpds - thanks, I got this: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nxclient, only the config files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too. That's weird since I just installed it today.
[10:27] <maco> khelvan_a: it means you already uninstalled it but did not purge it
[10:27] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: I can't find menu.lst
[10:27] <wubuntu> Oh, GNOME Art
[10:27] <maco> its /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:28] <serhiy_> /boot/grub
[10:29] <guntbert> !grub2 | lorenzosu
[10:29] <serhiy_> lorenzosu lorenzosu
[10:29] <serhiy_> lorenzosu  /boot/grub
[10:29] <FunkyWeasel> I've noticed that when I have closed firefox lately I have to kill the process before I restart.  Is this normal, or the result of a recent update?
[10:29] <maco> FunkyWeasel: it might just take a while for FF to shut down
[10:29] <maco> like 20 seconds or so
[10:30] <q0_0p> maco, sudo killall firefox
[10:30] <FunkyWeasel> maco: It's been a few minutes.  killing the process works... but I shouldn't have to do that everytime, right?
[10:30] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: Everything seems fine in the cfg file
[10:31] <serhiy_> lorenzosu maybe some disk not mounted?
[10:32] <pdragon_> hi i am having a problem with a broken package i used the apt-get install -f to try to fix it but it now work
[10:32] <lorenzosu> serhiy_: At boot?
[10:33] <jozefk> what is the way for starting daemons automatically in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <serhiy_> lorenzosu not shure
[10:33] <peleczek> loenzosu join #grub they help there with grub2 a lot
[10:33] <pdragon_> any one ?
[10:33] <serhiy_> test msg
[10:33] <jozefk> where are the sshd, httpd and other stuff lokated in ubuntu?
[10:34] <peleczek> also it's good to burn super grub disk on cd
[10:34] <jozefk> located* :)
[10:34]  * jozefk likes super grub disk as well
[10:34] <q0_0p> jozefk, i dont remember maybe /etc ? config files?
[10:34] <ardens> Who knows the shortest way to send AT+ commands to modem?
[10:34] <ardens> Who knows the shortest way to send AT+ commands to modem?
[10:34] <llutz>   ardens echo
[10:35] <jozefk> maybe etc? then how to start them automatically?
[10:35] <pdragon_> what kind of modem dsl cable or dial up or t1 ?
[10:35] <ardens> Hello, by the way
[10:35] <ardens> 3g modem
[10:35] <pdragon_> you mean the 3g modem from att cell comapny
[10:36] <jozefk> in some other distros they are inside /etc/rc.d/
[10:36] <ardens> nope, I mean 3g modem for ZTE. And all such hardware supports standard AT+ commands
[10:36] <adac> anyone familiar with truecrypt and mounting hidden volumes on command line?
[10:36] <erUSUL> jozefk: for example --> sudo update-rc.d sshd defaults
[10:36] <pdragon_> well you could use a script to run at boot  to do it
[10:36] <erUSUL> jozefk: is in /etc/init.d/
[10:36] <jozefk> and there is /etc/rc.di can't do it manually with vim?
[10:36] <serhiy_> lorenzosuu in CLI mode now?
[10:36] <pdragon_> hi i am having a problem with a broken package i used the apt-get install -f to try to fix it but it now work
[10:37] <jozefk> init.d ok thanks. that's what I needed. what is the config file for init.d?
[10:37] <erUSUL> !runlevels | jozefk
[10:37] <erUSUL> jozefk: all this stuff is changing in ubuntu. many things are still sysV though.
[10:38] <pdragon_> dose anyone know how to fix broken packages
[10:38] <erUSUL> jozefk: but there is no single file to edit. you have to use update-rc.d or rcconf or bum
[10:38] <maco> pdragon_: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:38] <pdragon_> already tried that
[10:38] <maco> pdragon_: sudo apt-get update, followed by that?
[10:38] <Dreamglider> i just did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 to clear/zero out an old hard disk, is there a way to see at what speed it's writing to the device (And possible the progress ?)
[10:38] <edmunds> hi everyone! can u help me understand why - ubuntu 9.10 installed on notebook, after restart some times do not allow to access meny, panels
[10:38] <jozefk> upstart system v inittab .. don't know any of that. i just want to start sshd and httpd and cron daemons during boot of system
[10:39] <erUSUL> jozefk: or make the various smlinks in /etc/rcn.d/ directories by hand
[10:39] <jozefk> that's all and so simple
[10:39] <jozefk> but with ubuntu it's not simple
[10:39] <jozefk> i see.
[10:40] <jozefk> i was hopping maybe they will start by themselves after installation :) but not sure if that was the case
[10:40] <maco> jozefk: i think they do
[10:40] <jozefk> all of them? cron, sshd, httpd?
[10:41] <jozefk> and they start after each reboot right?
[10:41] <erUSUL> jozefk: well update-rc.d is simple enough
[10:41] <maco> jozefk: yes, they should by default be configured to auto-start
[10:41] <maco> erUSUL: if its simple enough, why does its manpage say its not for humans to use?
[10:41] <Airwulf2k> hey
[10:41] <jozefk> update-rc.d is it a file? can i edit that in vim?
[10:42] <maco> jozefk: no, its a command thats supposed to be used by maintainer scripts and not by humans
[10:42] <Airwulf2k> can I disable shortcuts like ALT+F7 (move window) on ubuntu?
[10:42] <erUSUL> jozefk: as i said earlier to enable sshd --> sudo update-rc.d sshd defaults
[10:42] <Spixx> when talking about pam_ldap.conf is there a way so that it will work to login remotly without acc use the password in the config?
[10:42] <jongbergs> !info bum
[10:42] <erUSUL> jozefk: to disable it sudo update-rc.d -f sshd remove
[10:42] <maco> !pm | pdragon_
[10:43] <jozefk> erUSUL, then I can do #sudo update-rc.d httpd defaults as well right?
[10:43] <linny> once one had an encrypted /home folder is it possible to undo that option after install time ?
[10:43] <bu> wireless card refuses to associate with the router its 3945abg iwl3945, same problem with ndiswrapper, network manager, wicd and through terminal it refuses to communicate with the routher but i still can view available networks and it even prompts me for a password.. when i remove router password it doesnt connect still.. network manager keeps connecting forever with no results and wicd says Could not contact the wireless access point. any suggestions..  tried bac
[10:43] <pdragon_> here is what the apt-get -f install tells me http://pastebin.com/d7e2598d0
[10:43] <lorenzosu> I don't understand why the installer failed though
[10:43] <erUSUL> maco: i'm sure jozefk is open to other suggestions.
[10:43] <zebastian> is there a chronometer program for ubuntu?
[10:43] <q0_0p> jozefk, chkconfig --list
[10:43] <maco> yep chkconfig is dandy
[10:43] <jozefk> erUSUL, how can I see the list of all daemons which i have in autostart?
[10:43] <bu> wireless card refuses to associate with the router its 3945abg iwl3945, same problem with ndiswrapper, network manager, wicd and through terminal it refuses to communicate with the routher but i still can view available networks and it even prompts me for a password.. when i remove router password it doesnt connect still.. network manager keeps connecting forever with no results and wicd says Could not contact the wireless access point. any suggestions..  tried bac
[10:43] <aperson> maco, gufw looks really sparse
[10:43] <maco> though unfortunately not installed by default, i dont think
[10:44] <pdragon_> it is called synergy so i can use one pc to control the others mouse and keyboard
[10:44] <moDumass> evening all
[10:44] <aperson> pdragon_, synergy+ > synergy :)
[10:44] <lorenzosu> And no grub installed :(
[10:44] <pdragon_> synergy+
[10:44] <moDumass> um, im not dloading anything but i keep getting this "you root dir has 0bites free" message\
[10:45] <moDumass> im trying to clear space, but i dont seem to be able
[10:45] <moDumass> assistance wouod be awesome
[10:45] <moDumass> i think im googling wrong
[10:45] <erUSUL> jozefk: this --> sudo service --status-all
[10:45] <lorenzosu> So no one experienced grub 17 error after installing ubuntu 9.10 fresh?
[10:45] <kekale> moDumass, have you done sudo apt-get clean ?
[10:45] <moDumass> kekale, i have
[10:46] <pdragon_> nope i did not installing it on my acer mini
[10:46] <aperson> moDumass, well, do you have your root dir on a separate partition?
[10:46] <aperson> moDumass, it could genuinely be out of space
[10:46] <LuciusMare> what is wrong with this sudoers line? : remote = NOPASSWD: /bin/shutdown
[10:46] <moDumass> aperson, when i updated from 9.04 to 9.10 it blew out and i somehow created a new partition
[10:46] <erUSUL> moDumass: how big is your root partition ?
[10:46] <guntbert> moDumass: !pastebin the output of df -h and of mount please
[10:46] <moDumass> ok
[10:46] <jozefk> ok thanks erUSUL
[10:47] <pdragon_> dose anyone know how i can fix my problem
[10:47] <jozefk> now I see why some other people likes to use some other distros. there is still a big difference
[10:47] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: lloks like it lacks the hostname part
[10:47] <LuciusMare> hello?
[10:47] <Administrator123> l
[10:47] <LuciusMare> ah
[10:47] <jozefk> even though most of them looks the same from "outside: :)
[10:47] <LuciusMare> erUSUL: where?
[10:47] <jozefk> "outside"
[10:47] <jpds> LuciusMare: Do: "which shutdown" in a terminal.
[10:47] <aperson> pdragon_, what did you do exactly?
[10:47] <llutz> LuciusMare: read "man sudoers"
[10:47] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/shutdown  ??
[10:48] <jpds> erUSUL: sbin.
[10:48] <LuciusMare> ah,but that was a minor problem
[10:48] <aperson> pdragon_, I broke my synergy package when I installed synergy+, but I just removed synergy and all was well
[10:48] <erUSUL> jpds: yep that too ;)
[10:48] <moDumass> http://www.pastebin.org/59130
[10:48] <LuciusMare> ALL = NOPASSWD: will let the user remote run only the commands i specify without password,right?
[10:48] <pdragon_> well i installed the .deb from the web site then i made the mistake of installing it from the  ubuntu software center
[10:48] <moDumass> guntbert :http://www.pastebin.org/59130
[10:49] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: as per sudo docs yes
[10:49] <aperson> pdragon_, just uninstall it
[10:49] <pdragon_> i tried
[10:49] <pdragon_> no luck
[10:49] <Administrator123> hi
[10:49] <maxstirner> i get a crash when booting, system stops at "Loading cpufreq kernel modules..." Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[10:49] <LuciusMare> manual pages confused me:  ray    rushmore = NOPASSWD: /bin/kill, /bin/ls, /usr/bin/lprm
[10:49] <aperson> pdragon_, sudo aptitude purge synergy?
[10:50] <Nige> hello, anyone have dvdbackup and libdvdread4 working correctly?
[10:50] <guntbert> moDumass: your / is clearly maxed out - what about mount?
[10:50] <aperson> !dvd | Nige
[10:50] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59133
[10:51] <aperson> pdragon_, that question mark is part of the command, mind you
[10:51] <moDumass> guntbert, whats confusing me is that if im not in home, it says hteres like 40gigs free
[10:51] <pdragon_> that is what it is asking to remove
[10:52] <LuciusMare> sudo rm -r /usr/compiled myepicpasswd
[10:52] <LuciusMare> HOLY...
[10:52] <moDumass> was copying and pasting sorry
[10:52] <LuciusMare> er,wrong terminal just forget it
[10:52] <Nige> I tried k9copy but it crashes the moment the dvd drive spinds up
[10:52] <Nige> weird...
[10:53] <pdragon_> aperson thanks its fix now
[10:54] <pdragon_> i totaly forgot about that command lol
[10:54] <guntbert> moDumass: ignore that for the moment - pastebin the output of sudo du -sh /* please (it will take some time to complete)
[10:55] <ranjan> can any body help me in showing an sutable way that i can be able to make an back up of apt along with making all the list of software that i have downloded which are being kept in /var/cache/apt folder i know there is an tool known as apt on tool that can do my work in much easier was .... i dont want to use any cd for this work so is there any solution for this ... please help ....;)
[10:55] <friendishan> how do i upgrade to 9.10 using a CD?
[10:55] <friendishan> i am currently using 9.04 and i want to upgrade and i have recieved the CD (my net is too slow)
[10:56] <MasterOfDisaster> ranjan: dpkg --get-selections?
[10:56] <friendishan> anyone any help?
[10:56] <friendishan> epinky
[10:56] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : i am not geting you
[10:57] <bazhang> friendishan, you need the alternate cd to do that
[10:57] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks for your help btw. still learning, googling these commands as we go  -
[10:57] <MasterOfDisaster> ranjan: you want a list of all installed software?
[10:57] <friendishan> bazhang : recieved the CD which canonical sends free.
[10:57] <maxstirner> i get a crash when booting, system stops at "Loading cpufreq kernel modules..." Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[10:57] <smb96> friendishan, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[10:57] <guntbert> moDumass: thats quite allright with me :-)
[10:57] <bazhang> friendishan, is that the live cd or the alternate cd
[10:58] <friendishan> bazhang : i donno , maybe the live CD
[10:58] <friendishan> bazhang: how can i get the alternate cd?
[10:58] <bazhang> friendishan, you want to fresh install? do you have a separate home partition
[10:59] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : no i wan to make the downloded software avilable in pen drive and i want to use it on other system  without using any extra cd/ apt on tool
[10:59] <friendishan> bazhang : nope i don want to fresh install, it'll be a big mistake for me!
[10:59] <smb96> friendishan, just read the link
[10:59] <ayes86> oo
[10:59] <friendishan> smb96 : read (i ahev damn too slow net)
[11:00] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59142
[11:00] <Nige> cheers, seems to have fixed my dvdbackup problem as well
[11:00] <friendishan> smb96: u can't expect me to download it using a 15kb/ps download speed connection
[11:00] <linny> upon install i selected to encrypt my /home dir is it possible to reverse this without a reinstall ?
[11:00] <smb96> read further
[11:01] <epinky> friendishan: you'll need the ALTERNATE CD installer
[11:01] <friendishan> epinky: so i have to download it?
[11:01] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : no i wan to make the downloded software avilable in pen drive and i want to use it on other system  without using any extra cd/ apt on tool
[11:01] <guntbert> moDumass: you shouldn't have interrupted it, the interesting part ist still missing, please repeat
[11:01] <maco> linny: if you backup all your data from your home then delete your home directory and make a new one then move everything onto the new not-encrypted one...i think that should work
[11:01] <epinky> friendishan: yes, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[11:01] <LuciusMare> how to make sudo forget the password?
[11:01] <moDumass> guntbert, sorry didnt realise i interupted it, on it again
[11:01] <friendishan> epinky: never mind then i have a slow download speed!
[11:02] <maco> LuciusMare: sudo -k
[11:02] <ranjan> MasterOfDisaster : do you have any idea
[11:02] <LuciusMare> i mean,i typed the pass in before a while and now i dont want it to use it
[11:02] <LuciusMare> thanks
[11:02] <archangelpetro> is it just me, or is evolution really buggy?
[11:02] <guntbert> moDumass: you pressed ctrl+c :-)
[11:02] <aperson> archangelpetro, you and the whole internet
[11:02] <archangelpetro> aperson: thank you
[11:02] <epinky> friendishan: then do a fresh install :) , upgrade could be done using Alternate CD or network
[11:03] <aperson> archangelpetro, it's a shame ubuntu depends on it
[11:03] <moDumass> guntbert, yeh but only after it showed me the prompt, but its moved furhter this time, so I may have interupted it whilst copying stuff to google
[11:03] <friendishan> epinky : ok i will ask my friend to download the alternate CD, Thanks^^
[11:03] <friendishan> epinky: bye
[11:04] <LuciusMare> agh,it does not work
[11:04] <guntbert> moDumass: copying in the terminal is done with shift+ctrl+c
[11:04] <LuciusMare> remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown - still asks for password
[11:04] <aperson> guntbert, don't forget shift+insert
[11:05] <guntbert> aperson: you mean shift+ctrl+v ?
[11:05] <LuciusMare> guntbert: i am pretty sure he ment shift+insert
[11:05] <darkipod> heloo
[11:05] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, learning new stuff everyday. mostly when i break stuff though
[11:06] <guntbert> moDumass: thats the way to live :)
[11:07] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, any ideas?
[11:07] <darkipod> need help ..... with >>> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:08] <MikeChelen> darkipod: what is /dev/sr0?
[11:08] <darkipod> i can't use my CDrom
[11:08] <aperson> guntbert, shift+insert pastes anywhere, so does shift+ctrl+v
[11:08] <darkipod> thats the error i get
[11:08] <MikeChelen> darkipod: is that an external drive or something?
[11:09] <guntbert> aperson: I forgot :)
[11:09] <darkipod> no burner
[11:09] <epinky> darkipod: post results of "sudo lshw -C disk" ,  use pastebin
[11:09] <darkipod> i was working
[11:09] <LuciusMare> remote ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown - still asks for password - anyone?
[11:09] <darkipod> but i did something
[11:09] <maxstirner> my karmic suddenly fails to boot after "Apparmor profiles", any ideas?
[11:10] <MikeChelen> darkipod: is it sata? my ide cd burner shows up as something like /dev/scd0
[11:10] <darkipod> paste all that in the room?
[11:10] <MikeChelen> !pastebin
[11:11] <aomegax> hi
[11:12] <darkipod> Karmic can see the drive it just can't mount them without me me using the terminal
[11:12] <aomegax> does anybody know how to write uuid on partition?
[11:12] <MrNaz> how do you reinstall grub after reinstalling windows? the instructions for versions prior to karmic dont seem to work
[11:12] <peleczek> MrNaz i recommend super grub disk
[11:13] <MrNaz> peleczek url ?
[11:13] <aomegax> my problem is that at boot my uuid of root partition isn't recognized, so my distro doesn't stard
[11:13] <peleczek> saves nerves
[11:13] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59146
[11:13] <MrNaz> nvm
[11:13] <aomegax> *t
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:14] <eugene_> hi guys how do i run a tar.gz file?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:14] <l43a2> lol
[11:14] <peleczek> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you don't run it, its a compressed archive
[11:14] <eugene_> ok. lemme try it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: whats the file for?
[11:15] <Fizix> Does anyone know I can use Terminal Server Client to access an RDP host over the internet rather than being confined to just the local network?
[11:15] <guitar-maniac> hello! my add or remowe applications has disappeared :O i tried right clickin on applications and edit, but i cant click it as active...
[11:15] <eugene_> there's a software in there and i need to install it
[11:15] <erUSUL> eugene_: a tar.gz is a zip file. what do you mean by run? you can extract (deflate) it
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: you would need to configure port forwarding on the external router on the the other network
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: is it not in the repositorys?
[11:15] <tlvb> Fizix: sounds like you need to set up port forwading
[11:16] <erUSUL> eugene_: what software? are you sure it is not in the repos ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: The router will then forward the connection to the system to define in the forwarding rule
[11:16] <eugene_> no. its not in the repository
[11:16] <guntbert> moDumass: so you used 79GB in /home - you can employ the same idea stepping down and always looking for the biggest folder till you find the culprit - the netxt step would be du -sh /home/*
[11:16] <guntbert> *next
[11:16] <darkipod>  is there any way to reinstall the CDROM so that Karmic can make a new  /etc/fstab
[11:17] <moDumass> guntbert, yjamls
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: i can send you mine if you like, the UUIDs will be different but otherwise will be the same
[11:17] <Fizix> ActionParsnip & tlvb, thank you! Now I'm off to Google how to setup port forwarding on XP.
[11:17] <guntbert> moDumass: ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: its not on xp
[11:18] <darkipod> ok
[11:18] <eugene_> ActionParsnip: it has extracted the file but how do i run it
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: the port forwarding is done on the router
[11:18] <Fizix> Oh, the CLIENT side needs port fowarding?
[11:18] <littlegreen> ActionParsnip not if the subnet is routed by a windows machine
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: there is no single answer to that, you will have to read the files in the files you extracted
[11:18] <littlegreen> or it's just a simple i-net connection sharing
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> littlegreen: was getting there ;)
[11:19] <littlegreen> :)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: unless the external facing system is an XP system you will needto read the manual for the router
[11:19] <Fizix> Neither I (client-side) nor the XP machine I'm trying to RDP into (host-side) has a router.
[11:19] <tlvb> Fizix: unless you are using your XP computer as the router, you should search in your router docs
[11:19] <tlvb> bah too late heh
[11:19] <littlegreen> Fizix so the remote machine, running winXP has a real IP address?
[11:19] <tlvb> the bad side of using a keyboard layout I'm not accustomed to...
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: if its an XP system connected directly to the web then no forwarding is needed
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: as in with no router
[11:21] <Fizix> The XP box is using a Verizon DSL modem. I when on a site to grab the IP address and whois info from it as the 'ipconfig' command only gave me a local-style IP address, 192.168....
[11:21] <eugene_> ActionParsnip: thanx man. i got it
[11:21] <Fizix> *went
[11:21] <paulie> whats the name of the kubuntu bling installer background wallpaper (the blue one with the circles) ?
[11:21] <littlegreen> Fizix and the remote side doesn't have access to the router's control panel? If not I suggest you setup a VPN
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: then simply connect to its IP address (you can findout the IP with http://www.ipchicken.com) and connect to it, you will need to enable remote logon and XP Home doesn't have this feature, only pro does
[11:22] <hareldvd> How can I configure gvfs mount point?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: you will need to ask in ##wndows how to enable the remote logon. When you connect it will lock the local display
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> paulie: i'd ask in #kubuntu
[11:23] <Fizix> ActionParsnip, yea I enabled Remote Desktoping on XP Pro, allowed the exception on the firewall, etc. That's fine. It just seems like the Terminal Server Client cannot resolve the connection
[11:23] <paulie> ActionParsnip: i asked but no one knows
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: are you connecting to the IP, it will be something like 80.3.23.67 or somesuch
[11:23] <Fizix> Littlegreen, I actually was thinking that a little earlier, I'm just trying to make a little less work for myself right though
[11:24] <guitar-maniac> how can i give administ right to a user though terminal?
[11:24] <littlegreen> guitar-maniac sudo -i
[11:24] <Fizix> Yea, the IP address is 72.90.52.241  You can whois it now and see it's the Verizon connection I'm talking about
[11:24] <guitar-maniac> littlegreen: thanks
[11:24] <erUSUL> guitar-maniac: sudo adduser $USERNAME admin
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> guitar-maniac: sudo useradd -G admin username       (for an existing user)
[11:25] <epinky> paulie: this one? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/screenshots/plasma-other-widgets_thumb.png
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> guitar-maniac@guitar-maniac-desktop:~$ sudo adduser -G admin guitar_maniac
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> [sudo] password for guitar-maniac:
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> guitar-maniac is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:26] <Fizix> I do just enter the IP address in the 'Computer' field of the Terminal Server Client, no?
[11:26] <paulie> epinky: nope, thats the default Air theme wallpaper
[11:26] <littlegreen> guitar-maniac you should sudo -i first...
[11:26] <n16h7f0x> i want to reinstall kernel packages using apt how do i do that
[11:26] <epinky> paulie: ok, sry I'm not a theme expert :D
[11:26] <paulie> np
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> didnt work... i mssed up yesterday and took the rights away from myself.. :D
[11:26] <guitar-maniac> i did, it said the same thing. that im not in the sudoers file.
[11:27] <MikeChelen> guitar-maniac: use the recovery option at boot to login as root
[11:27] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:27] <guitar-maniac> MikeChelen: ok, i will try that now!
[11:27] <guntbert> guitar-maniac: then you will have to boot into recovery/root or run a live CD
[11:27] <erUSUL> guitar-maniac: you have to do it from recovery mode
[11:27] <brijith> haiii
[11:27] <Fizix> dadis420, are you installing Ubuntu to a USB-connected external hard drive or something?
[11:28] <guntbert> !hi | brijith
[11:28] <dadis420> Fizix no and there isn't even anything plugged into usb
[11:28] <n16h7f0x> i want to reinstall kernel packages using apt-get how do i do that
[11:28] <boomernang> When I copy cd's with Brasero Disc burner and K3b - Does any data go into /tmp? Im thinking of partitioning my disc and not sure what size to make /tmp
[11:28] <freaky[t]> n16h7f0x, apt-get install --reinstall <package> i think
[11:29] <aperson> boomernang, yes
[11:29] <aperson> boomernang, how much ram do you have?  You can always put that in ram if you have some to spare :)
[11:29] <boomernang> aperson, 4gig (64bit)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> n16h7f0x: do you mean reinstall the current kernel and its packages?
[11:30] <dadis420> boomerang: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/disk-partitioning.html
[11:30] <n16h7f0x> ActionParsnip, yes that's right
[11:30] <aperson> boomernang, same here
[11:30] <guntbert> !tab | dadis420
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> n16h7f0x: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-`uname -r`      will reinstall the current kernel
[11:31] <n16h7f0x> thank you very much
[11:31] <boomernang> aperson,.. yeah :) so im thinking, i have to give /tmp a nice figure don't i?
[11:31] <freaky[t]> !bored
[11:31] <boomernang> especially for dvd burning
[11:32] <dadis420> guntbert ah thanks
[11:32] <aperson> boomernang, worse comes to worse, it goes into swap
[11:32] <guntbert> dadis420: you're welcome :-)
[11:32] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:32] <dadis420> This problem is preventing me from using my computer :(
[11:32] <aperson> boomernang, though I don't really see the reasoning to have a separate /tmp partition
[11:34] <freaky[t]> lala
[11:34] <freaky[t]> :D
[11:35] <boomernang> aperson, well the problem is.. I really want to give / like 1gig
[11:35] <Dreamglider> i just did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 to clear/zero out an old hard disk, is there a way to see at what speed it's writing to the device (And/or possible the progress ?)
[11:35] <boomernang> aperson, less even
[11:35] <testi> I installed xrdp, when i logged in to it, it started KDE, but I want to start gnome - I uninstalled KDE and now it has problems (it's not describing what problem, just saying that there are problems) - I guess there must be at some point configured that it should start gnome, where?
[11:37] <hid3nax> Could anyone please help me to set up a multicast router on Ubuntu? I've just installed `smcroute' but don't know what to do next...
[11:38] <aperson> boomernang, you'd have to be manually specifying lots of partitions then!
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: dd doesnt ave that, it just works and you see nothing
[11:40] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: Ok, but is there any way to see the current transfer speed of a USB device(Like the network monitor) since the harddisk is connected via a USB to SATA/PATA bridge ?
[11:40] <Dreamglider> something like bmon only for USB ports instead
[11:41] <kalengow> net
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: not sure, never really interested really. Lets see what jeeves tells us
[11:41] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: iotop ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: you could use: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/disk_name
[11:41] <boomernang> aperson, yes! ive got the hang of it,(/boot, /, /var, /var/log, /usr, /home, /tmp, swap) pretty much all i need.  just have no idea what is suitable for /tmp with a computer that has a smallish uptime. (never longer than 1 week)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: but the disk is very busy with the dd so figures will not be representative
[11:42] <darkipod> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[11:42] <darkipod> [mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad
[11:42] <darkipod> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: can you provide a pastebin of the /etc/fstab file please
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: as well as one of the output of: sudo lshw -C disk
[11:43] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, im clearing crap up/ I also have a 13 gig partition, or mount sitting on my desktiop, and i dont know what its for
[11:44] <moDumass> it serves no purpowse that i know of. it was created on the last update
[11:44] <boomernang> aperson, you think 5 gig will be plenty for /tmp?
[11:45] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: thanks that works fine :)
[11:45] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: thanks as well.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: np bro
[11:45] <DrRobinTosh> RSS = Read some stories
[11:45] <guntbert> moDumass: if its only a link (as I suppose) it doesn't take up any space, I get one for any USB disk I plug
[11:46] <moDumass> guntbert, hmm, i get the feeling its a new partition
[11:46] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: no problem
[11:46] <Michiduta> is there a way to easily switch from gnash to proprietary flash and vice versa just to view some flash content not supported by gnash?
[11:47] <darkipod> sent it to u
[11:47] <guntbert> moDumass: I suggest that you first clear your "crap" and the you pastebin the output of ls -l ~/Desktop
[11:48] <Dreamglider> it's writing 4.5Mb/s on average, so writing 80Gb will take about hmmm 5 hours
[11:48] <moDumass> guntbert, thanks, yeh there was a user created for a friend and its full of well, crap, user has been trashed, space is clear
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: not got, can you paste the links in here
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: go have a sleep, or go to the pub
[11:49] <aperson> boomernang, sure
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: usb sucks at prolonged copies
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: its unbuffered and bursty
[11:49] <antares> there's some program to cripting files or folders in ubuntu?
[11:50] <Michiduta> sorry for double posting but it's important to me so here goes : is there a way to easily switch from gnash to proprietary flash and vice versa just to view some flash content not supported by gnash?
[11:50] <Dreamglider> true but i dont have a stationary pc here so usb to ata will have to do
[11:50] <boomernang> aperson, ok thanks
[11:50] <aperson> anajo, enrypt2fs afaik
[11:50] <moDumass> guntbert, http://www.pastebin.org/59151 - im guessing now that it is a link
[11:51] <aperson> anajo, nevermind
[11:51] <dadis420> I get the problem "unable to enumerate usb device on port 8" can someone help me. I can't even boot ubuntu
[11:51] <moDumass> guntbert, but is it a new partition/mount thats just sitting there using space
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: firewire is a much better option
[11:52] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip:  i have never used firewire
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: its got intelligence built into the sender and reciever so the transmission is smooth and not full of empty spaces like usb has
[11:52] <guntbert> moDumass: no, there are no links I have a look at your mounts - brb
[11:53] <moDumass> guntbert, what am i /we lookin for?
[11:53] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/m698fbc7b >>>>>>for the  fstab
[11:54] <BleSS> by default, when you're looking a video it's downloaded to /tmp, is possible that been downloaded to another dir.? since that I want to change /tmp to shm
[11:55] <guntbert> moDumass: something with ~12 GB in the output of mount - I guess its the nvidia thing
[11:55]  * bleah restart
[11:55] <moDumass> guntbert indeed, not really sure what its for though
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: you can make you life a LOT easier with: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo lshw -C disk | pastebinit
[11:56] <darkipod> lshw -c disk=>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/m1b638dc5
[11:56] <guntbert> moDumass: so just unmount it for once: sudo umount /dev/mapper/nvidia<tab>
[11:57] <moDumass> guntbert,  its unmounted
[11:57] <Fizix> Why do some channels have double-pound signs?
[11:58] <guntbert> moDumass: good, if there are no issues - no system complaining you can leave it that way and eventually you remove the enz
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: ok and wat was te rror?
[11:58] <LuciusMare> this line of sudoers does not work : lucius ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/wminput : It still asks for password.Where is the problem?
[11:58] <moDumass> guntbert,  how do I remove it, just trash it?
[11:58] <guntbert> try from /etc/fstab and the you delete that partition
[11:59] <rumpsy|jobler> Any editor for svg?
[11:59] <LuciusMare> rumpsy|jobler: inkscape
[11:59] <rumpsy|jobler> ya, i forgot that, thank you
[11:59] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/f4f68b288   <<< for the sudo lshw: -c disk
[11:59] <rudydekok> hi i'm looking for the command to list the uid (not username) for all files on a mount?
[12:00] <nature> my soudcard seems working smoothly, but there is no sound i can hear,could any one help me?
[12:00] <rumpsy|jobler> use just id
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: cool, what error do you get from: sudo mount -a
[12:00] <darkipod> [mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad
[12:00] <guntbert> moDumass: better not too soon - maybe its a logical volume (do you use LVM?) - leave it unmounted for a while
[12:01] <darkipod> the drives work fine in Xp
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: i dont care if they work in xp
[12:01] <darkipod> ok
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:02] <darkipod> done
[12:02] <guntbert> rudydekok: ls -ln
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: and switch the floppy line with the line you added so it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m2961c71
[12:02]  * bleah re
[12:02] <rudydekok> i have a mount where all the files belong to user 'nobody' and to restore the original permissions I need to retreive the original uid's
[12:03] <rudydekok> sorry suntbert! missed yr answer. that's it! tnx
[12:03] <rudydekok> guntbert that is..
[12:03] <guntbert> rudydekok: you're welcome :-)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: save the new file and reboot
[12:05] <darkipod> ok bro u the man if works brb
[12:06] <guntbert> moDumass: later you will want to have a look at sudo fdisk -l (to see every partition) and the use a  partition manager (gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk,...) to delete the partition
[12:07] <amimusa> hello, i guess it is a simple thing but i can't find the log to identify the problem, please some help with the next issue
[12:07] <amimusa> when i try to download my email with evolution i get an error telling me that the file is too big
[12:07] <amimusa> i have enough space in the hard disk
[12:08] <amimusa> i revised the mails from webmail and there is no huge mail
[12:08] <lovre> hi all. I seem to have a problem. I cant update with KPackageKit, it says: "Failed to fetch ,,, Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)"  I dont understand why its trying to connect to localhost? I think it might have something to do with me trying to install tinyproxy, firehol and dansguarding the other day. But i have purged all of them. Nevertheless, it seems as if i am myselfs proxy or something.... Any
[12:08] <lovre>  ideas about this??
[12:08] <LuciusMare> this line of sudoers does not work : lucius ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/wminput : It still asks for password.Where is the problem?
[12:08] <amimusa> i tried to find the log, but i can't
[12:08] <amimusa> please any help
[12:10] <dani_> ciaooo
[12:10] <dani_> !list
[12:10] <dani_> ciao
[12:11] <dani_> !list
[12:11] <iceroot> dani_: stop that please
[12:11] <vox> dani_: stop that
[12:11] <guntbert> !it | dani_
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: better?
[12:13] <darkipod> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[12:13] <darkipod> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> since moving to karmic I've been noticing some serious slow connection and some websites either take long to connect or don't connect at all, is there an issue with networking in karmic I don't know about?
[12:13] <Fizix> Troubles getting the RDP XP host to communicate with my Terminal Server Client, and now I that I've dual-booted the XP box with Ubuntu, it can't connect to the DSL ethernet line
[12:13] <darkipod> dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <darkipod> /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <Fizix> I hate this box.
[12:13] <darkipod> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: well everything matches up so I am confused
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> !pastebin > darkipod
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: are you using redsktop to connect?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> rdesktop*
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !info rdesktop
[12:15] <Fizix> ActionParsnip, I was using the 'Terminal Server Client' that's packaged with Ubuntu 9.10
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Fizix: if you PM me I'll try the connection if you'd link. I cant get past the logon screen as I do not have your credentials
[12:16] <darkipod> i have no clue how to use pastebin
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> darkipod: you did it earlier when you gave me those outputs
[12:18] <darkipod> copied what u told me to do bro
[12:18] <tarinikanth> how to set classpath for java?
[12:18] <epinky> LuciusMare: is your customized rule at the END of sudoers file ?
[12:18] <guntbert> !pastebin | darkipod
[12:18] <pointexta> hello everbody - i need help with my netbook entering the web
[12:19] <epinky> pointexta: what's the error?
[12:19] <pointexta> hy epinky
[12:21] <pointexta> i got an acer aspire one 531 - it has got an inside modem and i cant connect using the network manager
[12:21] <darkipod> using the website for this
[12:21] <darkipod> http://pastebin.com/m2abaf42d
[12:21] <epinky> tarinikanth: export CLASSPATH=/path/to/your/class/path
[12:21] <Jack|Hardy> Hello!
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> in 9.10, when i play something fullscreen in totem, the top bar does not go away and blocks the topmost pixels of the video, is there any solution for this?
[12:21] <Jack|Hardy> I'm new to ubuntu D:
[12:22] <littlegreen> Starcraftmazter try auto-hide the panel
[12:22] <pointexta> at the moment im connectet via usb-modem
[12:22] <epinky> pointexta: do you use ppp to connect your modem?
[12:22] <darkipod> error i get when i try to mount a disk http://pastebin.com/d401991b5
[12:23] <Jack|Hardy> How are you guys today
[12:23] <littlegreen> !ot | Jack|Hardy
[12:23] <Jack|Hardy> oh thanks ubottu
[12:23] <pointexta> epinky: sorry, do not know
[12:24] <epinky> pointexta: what error fo you get?
[12:24] <epinky> pointexta: what error do you get?*
[12:24] <darkipod> sudo lshw -c disk >>>>> http://pastebin.com/d5a6fd1c9
[12:25] <epinky> darkipod: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ORI
[12:26] <pointexta> epinky: when trying to connect, the network manger goes "not running" und the LED for my modem turns off - "you are now offline"
[12:26] <epinky> pointexta: is it dial-up service?
[12:27] <littlegreen> pointexta do you connect to a router or are you dialing a phone modem?
[12:28] <pointexta> epinky: ...dont know exactly - got a sim card - put it directly into the netbook (i deactivated the pin)
[12:29] <darkipod> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ORI done
[12:29] <epinky> darkipod: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:29] <pointexta> littlegreen: aceraspire one531 integrated globetrotter modem
[12:29] <darkipod> done
[12:31] <pointexta> <-- from austria - not very good at IT-english
[12:31] <Starcraftmazter> littlegreen: thanks
[12:31] <darkipod> fstab is open what next?
[12:32] <littlegreen> pointexta you are attempting to use internet from a mobile-phone company>?
[12:32] <littlegreen> *internet service
[12:32] <pointexta> littlegreen: yes i do
[12:32] <epinky> darkipod: replace in line 13 /dev/scd0 with /dev/sr0
[12:32] <Jack|> I think to many children play with computers these days
[12:33] <littlegreen> pointexta and they didn't provide you with software when signing the contract?!?
[12:33] <Jack|> Ubuntu 10.x was released when?
[12:33] <epinky> darkipod: replaced?
[12:33] <alabd> Good day everyone , where will  epiphany downloaded files be saved in default ?(in browser download folder is set filesystem but there is nothing)
[12:33] <jrib> Jack|: ubuntu versions correspond to dates.  For example, 9.10 = 2009 october.  So 10.04 will only be released in april of next year
[12:33] <darkipod> done
[12:34] <Jack|> Ah I see, thank you sir!
[12:34] <epinky> darkipod: save and quit
[12:34] <darkipod> done and reboot?
[12:34] <epinky> darkipod: now on terminal "sudo mount -a"
[12:34] <_cb> My USB headphones stopped working. lsusb does not list them. How to fix?
[12:34] <littlegreen> pointexta contact your ISP (Internet Service Provider) - tell them about your problem and that you want a solution. You may have to take your laptop to one of their offices... but they are ought to solve your problem - otherwise you won't be their customer anymore and you won't pay them a penny ;-)
[12:34] <pointexta> littlegreen: the netbook was sold with winxp - and i tried 10 different linux-dists - not one can handle the modem
[12:35] <TuTUXG> can anyone help me? i changed my soundcard and pulseaudio won't connect to it, the soundcard works fine with livecd
[12:35] <littlegreen> pointexta what modem is that exactly?
[12:35] <Jack|> keep trying dudes
[12:35] <Jack|> its more fun this way anyway
[12:36] <darkipod> sudo mount -a gets  now what
[12:36] <epinky> pointexta: check this: http://sopanshewale.blogspot.com/2009/11/setting-up-netsetter-gprs-from-idea-on.html , it should be used as a base (wdial.conf part)
[12:36] <epinky> darkipod: no error?
[12:36] <darkipod> sudo mount -a *
[12:36] <_cb> tutuxg do you have the pulse audio applet?
[12:36] <darkipod> does nothing
[12:37] <darkipod> darkipod@darkipod-desktop:~$  is what i get
[12:37] <TuTUXG> _cb: yes, but im under kde
[12:37] <epinky> darkipod: then if no error, you're done
[12:37] <darkipod> reboot?
[12:37] <epinky> darkipod: no, your cd must be operational now
[12:38] <TuTUXG> _cb: i have the pulseaudio volume control program, it only shows dummy in/out put
[12:38] <_cb> tutuxg if you click on it and select volume control, output devices. Is your card listed?
[12:38] <TuTUXG> _cb: no
[12:38] <pointexta> epinky: no problem connecting an usb-modem - my problem is the integrated modem (globetrotter)
[12:39] <epinky> pointexta: if it use a SIM then it must be a GSM modem, right?
[12:39] <pointexta> epinky_ OPTION GlobeTrotter HSUPA
[12:39] <epinky> pointexta: uses*
[12:39] <TuTUXG> _cb, and under configuration, it says no card available for configuration
[12:39] <_cb> tutuxg what is listed if you do cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> epinky: why does scdX not work in fstab when the single drive was there initially?
[12:39] <TuTUXG> _cb, hold on
[12:40] <epinky> ActionParsnip: no idea man
[12:40] <epinky> ActionParsnip: :)
[12:40] <TuTUXG> _cb: 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[12:40] <pointexta> littlegreen: OPTION GlobeTrotter HSUPA
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> epinky: i tried to help earlier but looks like srX is the way
[12:40] <somono666> Hello World!
[12:40] <_cb> What is listed under audio if you do lspci?
[12:40] <TuTUXG> _cb: and HDA Intel at 0xff8d8000 irq 22
[12:40] <_cb> tutuxg What is listed under audio if you do lspci?
[12:41] <TuTUXG> _cb: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03
[12:41] <littlegreen> pointexta give your internet provider a phone call and explain your problem. I think they will have better solution than I can provide you with
[12:42] <TuTUXG> _cb: it's a laptop btw
[12:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi guys, i want to speed up my system by puttin up to 4GB of RAM and I found this procedure on the web "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-server" + "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server" + "sudo apt-get install linux-image-server linux-server" the guide is saying if I do as written I wouldn't have to swap to a 64-bit sys in order to have 4GB RAM or more working, is that true? if, yes, what am I changing of my system? I run In
[12:42] <_cb> looks as if it is not recognizing the sound card. Unfortunatelly don't know how to fix that
[12:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> trepid on gnome. thanks a lot :D
[12:42] <_cb> tutuxg looks as if it is not recognizing the sound card. Unfortunatelly don't know how to fix that
[12:42] <TuTUXG> _cb: but it works fine with livecd
[12:42] <pointexta> littlegreen: i tried already - "nosupport for linux user"
[12:43] <epinky> pointexta: is your modem there? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[12:43] <TuTUXG> _cb: well, thanks anyways
[12:43] <_cb> tutuxg good point. Don't know why it would work on livecd but not list
[12:44] <littlegreen> pointexta try http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/Option_Globetrotter_HSUPA_Modem/
[12:44] <TuTUXG> _cb: my old lap's mb fried, so i just install the old harddrive into this new laptop, with the old system on it
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  the server kernel has PAE support so can access more then 4gb of ram. if you have EXACTLY 4gb of ram. Im not sure you are going to gain anything. with exactly 4gb of ram . some is still 'reserved' for use by the system.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  so you still wont have  full access to all 4 gb.
[12:45] <Jack|Bored> ah PAE addressing
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  so all your work may be for very little gain.
[12:45] <Jack|Bored> That sounds about right
[12:45] <hylman> hi all, anybody using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10?
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> no but google has this cool new cloud OS thingy
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> check it out hylman
[12:46] <Jack|Bored> lolz
[12:47] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: right, so what this guide's sayin is not that trustworthy as it seems... I have 2gb now, whatz the max amount of ram i can install without any "weird" procedure on my system? (being sure it'll be recognized and used)
[12:47] <hylman> Jack|Bored: google chromium OS is still under dev...
[12:47] <hylman> not my cup of tea
[12:47] <Jack|Bored> Yeah I like linux kernels anyway
[12:47] <pointexta> littlegreen: epinky: thanks for your help, but now im confused - but i will try to lok through your links
[12:48] <hylman> I wonder if anyone notice that the "games" tab of UNR is clipped at the bottom, i.e.: last icons were clipped
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  once you get over 4gb . then its time to worry about the pae  or 64bit. Personally i just use 64bit distros all the time now a days
[12:48] <hylman> Jack|Bored: what's the boot time like? have u tried one?
[12:48] <Jack|Bored> I wish D:
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  from my understanding the normal 32bit kernbel can addres UP TO 4gb. however some of the 4gb will still be reserved by the system and thus not fully useable.
[12:49] <sjd> hey. I have a dell Studio 14. Karmic is up. but no sound. what to do?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  i imagine the 64bit, and pae stuff still have that same limitatiion
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  pay attention to how much ram and swap you are using. If you are never using swap. then more ram proberly wont help much.
[12:49] <Jack|Bored> Actually Dr. Willis I think in theory its 3.5 GB? I know XP only uses 3.25 MAX but thats an NT system
[12:50] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: ok, so till 4gb. where can i find this piece of info? cuz i looked it up but it seems everyone says a different thing, isnt there an "official" ubuntu guide about it? (haven't found it)
[12:50] <sjd> please help. badly need sound
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  i read a lot of forum posts on it. its a hardware limition of the 4gb thing to some degree.. if you have exactly 4gb of ram . a small part of it will still get reserved for use by the hardware.  From what i recall.
[12:51] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: atm im using 48% of 2gb of ram and 3% of 3.5 Gb of swap
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  if you have more then 4gb then its time to worry about it,
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  odd that you are using any swap at all. if your ram is not 100%
[12:51] <sjd> can someone help? please
[12:52] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: yeah i thought it was strange as well, but thatz what i see by opening the System Monitor
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you are proberly worring about things too much.  Linux handles memory much better then windows does.
[12:52] <Jack|Bored> Now that is a cool feature of Ubuntu Ipse!
[12:53] <epinky> sjd: I'd suggest you to get rid of pulseaudio, but I think ubuntugeek.com's link is down :(
[12:53] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: yeah but sometimes when im running lots of processes together, some of em gets stuck and i think its a ram-related issue, thatz why i thought about puttin in some more
[12:53] <Jack|Bored> BSD handles memory well too, but not my cup of tea :P
[12:53] <sjd> epinky: killall pulseaudio ?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you can always try. but ive rarely had ram issues with linux.
[12:54] <Mkman> hello
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  you would have to be putting quite a bit of load/ram ussage on a system to make  things 'stuck' :)
[12:54] <hylman> really, nobody using UNR here?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> hylman:  theres a few in here that use it.
[12:54] <epinky> sjd: I meant uninstalling PULSEAUDIO and going back to ALSA , try to do a search about that
[12:54] <hylman> Dr_Willis: do you use it?
[12:54] <mrXX> please recommend me a good open source mailing software - that integrates easily with database
[12:55] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: so you think the reason why sometimes it gets stuck itz cuz of my cpu? but i have 2.40Ghz dual core processor
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> hylman:  ive used it in the past. poerhaps ask your actual question about it . and someone may answer you
[12:55] <Jack|Bored> mrXX Try Thunderbird or Evolution?
[12:55] <sjd> epinky: okay. thanks for the tip. let me give a try
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  it all depends on what you are doing.  Ive rarely managed to overload my linux machines
[12:55] <mrXX> Jack|Bored i mean something that can be integrated with the website and my database
[12:56] <Jack|Bored> ruh roh outta ideaz
[12:56] <guwe> how to extract file *.rar ?
[12:56] <Jack|Bored> and time! see ya
[12:56] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: i really run several processes at the same time, processes that, according to the System Monitor get up to 20% of cpu usage sometimes...
[12:56] <hylman> I wonder if anyone notice in UNR 9,10, that in the "games" tab window clips the bottom icons
[12:57] <AlexJones> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 freshly. I had exported all imported data from the programs for backup. The only thing I forgot to export was the bookmarks in firefox. Luckily I made a complete backup of the /home folder. Which folder do I have to copy to my new installation so I get all my Firefox 3.5 bookmarks back?
[12:58] <Cajjita> server irc.rizon.net
[12:58] <epinky> guwe: Gnome?
[12:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: /home/.mozilla/firefox/a-random-number-of-your-user/bookmarks
[12:58] <guwe> epinky, yes
[12:58] <epinky> guwe: open File Roller then
[12:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: but i guess you had to "export" them before in order to creat a .html file to import now that you need...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> i always just copy the whole .mozilla dir over to my new install. :)  befor i run firefox the first time.
[12:59] <guwe> epinky, how? archieve type not supported
[12:59] <vega> AlexJones: .mozilla/firefox/... you can import from there using Bookmarks -> Manage bookmarks -> Import and backup
[13:00] <guwe> epinky, its ok. solved
[13:00] <guwe> thanks
[13:00] <kavurt> AlexJones: have you heard about Xmarks? once you installed it, you don't have to worry about bookmarks anymore. . .
[13:01] <johnny__> hi, exist a way for protect a file of modification, so nobody can modify it (all users, include root user)?
[13:01] <ubuntu_> encryption?
[13:01] <ubuntu_> True Crypt?
[13:02] <ubuntu_> cyphers! :D
[13:02] <jrib> johnny__: man chattr
[13:02] <jcrawford> hey guys when the next version of Ubuntu comes out will the update manager update me or will I need to do a new install etc.?  I am not sure how Linux handles upgrades like that
[13:02] <jrib> jcrawford: update manager will inform you about it
[13:02] <jrib> !away > crohakon|zZz
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> johnny__: could chmod g-w o-w a-w to mark it read only, root can still set writable back though
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  ubuntu supports upgrading to the next release. thats not really a  'linux' thing. but a ubuntu thing. :)
[13:03] <crohakon|zZz> oh hush
[13:03] <jcrawford> jrib, is it generally safe to upgrade through the update manager or is it still being tested etc.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  it pays to always have backups. I always do clean installs personally.
[13:03] <johnny__> yes root can undo the protection stuff also in chattr
[13:03] <jcrawford> Dr_Willis, well i know Fedora does as well which is why i stated i was not sure how all linux flavors handled it :)
[13:03] <jcrawford> thanks Dr_Willis
[13:03] <jrib> jcrawford: it's supposed to be safe once it is released, but you should have backups just in case as Dr_Willis suggested
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !vnc > Fizix
[13:04] <jrib> johnny__: if you don't want root to be able to undo some setting then you need some sort of hardware protection.  Try a cd-r I guess?
[13:04] <ubuntu_> or a masterlock
[13:05] <ubuntu_> on a box with your hard drives in it
[13:05] <johnny__> ok
[13:05] <johnny__> cdrom maybe
[13:05] <maxstirner1> my karmic isnt booting, any ideas how to troubleshoot it?
[13:06] <Jack|F3> Try googling karmic wiki maxstirner!
[13:06] <maxstirner1> In Eastern beliefs, the karmic effects of all deeds are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences. The results or 'fruits' of actions ...?
[13:06] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, , veha, kavurt: But I can only import if I have a .json file or not? Can I simply move the entire subfolder to the new installation?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: boot to liveCD or installed karmic?
[13:06] <Jack|F3> Conscious decisions are important, they define us on a lot of levels max.
[13:06] <maxstirner1> installed, its suddenly stopped booting at an early stage
[13:07] <maxstirner1> "starting apparmor profile" etc
[13:07] <Misantropo> i am trying to run a bootp server for upgrading the firmware of my modem/router. When running the command: bootpd -d4 it returns: bootpd: error(3):  bind: Address already in use
[13:07] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: first it stopped upon "Loading cpufreq modules" which I deactivated, this didnt help, so I assume its the step after that
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: edit the boot options in grub with e to edit the boot to not show the boot splash so you can see whats going on
[13:07] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: I would really just like to know how to troubleshoot it..
[13:08] <Misantropo> there is no info on the web for this error
[13:08] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: It does turn off splash at the end, showing where its failed..
[13:08] <Jack|F3> Well booting into an OS is a simple matter, just some machine code and software and stuff
[13:08] <maxstirner1> you mean quiet=no
[13:08] <Jack|F3> Try googling bootloader max
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Misantropo:  sounds liek it may allr4eady be running, perhaps you need to 'restart' the service.
[13:08] <Misantropo> i see
[13:08] <Misantropo> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> maxstirner1: then websearch for that, see if there are bugs or guides for it
[13:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: told u though, if u wanted to import ur bookmarks u should have had them "exported" before in a .html file, im not sure about what u can do now, but u can try what Dr_Willis suggested, just copy and paste ur whole old /.mozilla folder into ur new /home overwriting  the new one and see what happens (of course id do a backup of my new one, u never no...)
[13:10] <maxstirner1> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, sadly there arent.. where would the logfiles be?
[13:10] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[13:10] <Jack|F3> hello!
[13:10] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, OK. Thank you.
[13:10] <EvaLuaTe> when trying to install python-fife i get this error: python-fife: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> AlexJones: no sweat :D
[13:11] <Misantropo> Dr_Willis, it is not running
[13:11] <Jack|F3> Tired
[13:11] <Jack|F3> Go away
[13:12] <djura-san> hello 2all
[13:12] <sponzor> do you have ubuntu server graphic install option?
[13:13] <EvaLuaTe> anyone...?
[13:13] <sledgeas> hello. i have only ssh access to ubuntu. how can i perform software updates via command line (i.e. see what update are available and then actually update) thanks!
[13:14] <LjL> sledgeas: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:15] <mrXX>  If i export a file running a php code in my website(located in a remote server) where will the file get exported??
[13:15] <SeismicMike> I have a mild pet peeve.... I connect to a Cisco VPN using vpnc and Network-Manager-vpnc... I originally installed this system as 9.04 (jaunty), but upgraded to 9.10 (karmic) when it came out. Before the upgrade, I would get a padlock icon that would cover my connection icon in my "task bar" when I was connected, but after the upgrade I don't get that any more
[13:15] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: any idea why i get that error when trying to install python-fife?
[13:15] <Jack|F3> Mike a CCNA or CCNP could help you
[13:16] <SeismicMike> It's not a major problem - the VPN still works - I just like the quick visual reference to tell me if I'm connected
[13:16] <Jack|F3> Maybe they'll address that in 10.x
[13:16] <LjL> !info python-fife
[13:16] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: where does that come from?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: no idea, I'm actually trying to install unknown-horizons, and it requires python-fife
[13:17] <Jack|F3> That's a cool game!
[13:17] <sjd> epinky: hey. i ran apt-get purge pulseaudio. now pulseaudio had been installed. but now, seems, sound is not managed. what to do?
[13:17] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: that's not in the repos either - where does it come from?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> Jack|F3: yeah, I'm looking forward to try it myself. Any tips on how to get it to install?
[13:17] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: : http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/07/unknown-horizons-rts-game.html
[13:18] <jarod51> Hi
[13:18] <Jack|F3> Try WinE, but remember it is a D3D10 game
[13:18] <jacekowski> hi
[13:18] <howlymowly> hi guys.. do any of you know something about restructured text?  I am considiering using it as an alternativ to latex but i don't know how to number figures and tables...
[13:18] <epinky> sjd: now, I guess ALSA should be installed
[13:18] <boomernang> in the install of 9.10 i chose to partition one of my discs as /home/sdb/data. its all sweet but it is owned by root and in group root. Is this the proper way/safest way? Or should i change its ownership and group to my ubuntu user?
[13:18] <jarod51> I don't manage to activate dual screen with an ati graphic card. Can anybody help me ?
[13:18] <miha> hello i wonder why Display settings with ATI user interface never lasts for next reboot... i click apply, ok... it works for that session, but on next load, i get old wrong settings. i dont expect quick fix... but it would be welcome for future version ...
[13:18] <jacekowski> i have one question - who had so stupid idea to use untested beta grub2 in "stable" distribution
[13:18] <Frantic> does anyone know a way to add a windows user from linux? :)
[13:18] <sjd> epinky: ALSA is already installed. i can get the mixer running from the terminal. 1.0.20
[13:19] <jrib> jacekowski: please ask actual support questions here
[13:19] <Jack|F3> lol
[13:19] <AlexJones> IpSe_DiXiT, , veha, kavurt: It worked. Firefox automatically makes a backup. There is a folder called "backupfolder". Very nice. Thx for the help.
[13:19] <jacekowski> it's like every single day we have user with same grub2 problems
[13:19] <miha> jarod51: make sure display is connected before you log in
[13:19] <jacekowski> on #ubuntu-pl
[13:20] <epinky> sjd: are you following some howto or guide?
[13:20] <Jack|F3> Poland! That's a cool country
[13:20] <jrib> jacekowski: bugs.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <sponzor> do you have ubuntu server graphic install option?
[13:20] <sjd> epinky: nope.
[13:20] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: it doesn't really seem to me like that package is supposed to work in karmic...
[13:20] <jacekowski> jrib: reported, nobody care
[13:20] <Jack|F3> Good call jacekowski
[13:20] <jrib> jacekowski: link?
[13:21] <jarod51> miha: it's ok :)
[13:21] <epinky> sjd: ouch, gimme a minute
[13:21] <sjd> epinky: :)
[13:21] <LjL> EvaLuaTe: try following these instructions instead (first remove the lines you added to sources.list with the other instructions) http://aminesoft.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/unknown-horizons-game-for-ubuntu/
[13:21] <LjL> in there at least karmic is explicitly mentioned
[13:21] <Jack|F3> wow 1411 users what a party
[13:22] <miha> i'll repeat .. for log :)...  i wonder why Display settings with ATI user interface never lasts for next reboot... i click apply, ok... it works for that session, but on next load, i get old wrong settings. i dont expect quick fix... but it would be welcome for future version ...
[13:22] <jacekowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477430
[13:22] <jacekowski> i've found couple duplicates of it in different variations
[13:23] <jacekowski> and no response to any of them
[13:23] <Jack|F3> GRUB has had a troubled history IMO
[13:23] <jarod51> miha: one more information, i don't/can't use ati proprietary drivers :(
[13:23] <jacekowski> but somebody had time to strip down gdm configurator
[13:23] <jacekowski> to 5 options
[13:23] <maxstirner1> my karmic isnt booting as of today and its really winding me up
[13:23] <jacekowski> instead of normall configurator
[13:23] <jacekowski> and add loads of shit
[13:23] <jacekowski> it's getting worse every release
[13:23] <EvaLuaTe> LjL: yup, that seems to work. Thanks a lot :)
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> jacekowski:  that would be the GNOME devs doing that to GDM i recall...
[13:24] <maxstirner1> update-grub2 isnt working either
[13:24] <AlexJones> During installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I had created a 15GB /tmp partition within my encrypted LVM. Now I realize that those 15 GB is too much. How can I mount the 15 GB /tmp partition to /media/files permanently and use /tmp in the root partition? I had edited the fstab and changed /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp /tmp    ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:24] <AlexJones>      to     /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp /media/files    ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:24] <AlexJones> . But then after the next reboot I was not able to log in anymore getting the error message: "/usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check exited with status 256). What should I do?
[13:24] <FloodBot5> AlexJones: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <jrib> jacekowski: whining here accomplishes nothing other than me caring less about helping you
[13:24] <sjd> epinky: ?
[13:24] <LuciusMare> epinky: holy mother,5 channels,two topics and nobody ever told me this,it works! :D
[13:24] <jacekowski> jrib: i don't want your help
[13:25] <jacekowski> jrib: i fixed it myself
[13:25] <miha> :D
[13:25] <junruh> d
[13:25] <jrib> jacekowski: this channel is for help
[13:25] <sledgeas> thanks LjL!
[13:25] <jacekowski> jrib: but there is loads of people that come to -pl and ask same questions
[13:25] <miha> #ubuntu-offtopic for netsex :D
[13:25] <junruh> I can't open a panel!
[13:25]  * Brandano watches as the #ubuntu-offtopic user count rises...
[13:25] <miha> :D
[13:26] <jacekowski> you can help my by not adding untested software to distribution that is used by normal users that don't know anything about PC
[13:26] <Brandano> Howdy people
[13:26] <jacekowski> me*
[13:26] <JediMaster> anyone know why amarok seems to have forgotten all my track details and doesn't even try to read any ID3 (or similar info)? I've checked the same m4a track in VLC and it reads the track info
[13:26] <junruh> miha:What's netsex?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> jacekowski:  this channel is not in charge of that.
[13:26] <miha> it's like phonesex, only you type
[13:27] <Brandano> I want to install kubuntu from an iso image on a spare ext3 partition on my multiboot laptop, keeping my current grub2 install. Anyone knows if this is feasible?
[13:27] <jrib> jacekowski: this is open source, bugs happen.  Document the fix on the bug report and point them there.  You said you found duplicates, but I don't see any.  One way to help triage the bug, is to mark all the duplicates so that developers can work on the issue more easily
[13:27] <junruh> Ahh, I've do it alreaddy
[13:27] <miha> Brandano: during install tell to install grub on partition or nowhere at all, not on mbr, then edit grub settings for MBR yourself to continue loading from that partition
[13:27] <Brandano> miha: usually one-handed, though, so it's much slower
[13:27] <sjd> epinky: I badly need sound. :(
[13:28] <Brandano> miha: so I should boot in any case from the CD media, right?
[13:28] <SmokeyD> Hey people, I am having the weirdest network problem. I manually configure my network. The sysadmins here gave me a static dhcp lease. But when I set /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp for eth0 and I restart the network, I don't get a reply after the dhcp requests to 255.255.255.255
[13:28] <Brandano> I sort of hoped I could run the installer within one of the other OSes
[13:28] <miha> Brandano: well later you can edit main grub to add boot from that partition
[13:28] <SmokeyD> when I then add a route to the subnet in which eth0 should get an address and say ifconfig eth0 up, and then say dhclient3 eth0
[13:28] <SmokeyD> I do get an address
[13:28] <miha> Brandano: just dont install over existing grub
[13:29] <SmokeyD> so somehow I don't get a reply on the dhcp requests to 255.255.255.255
[13:29] <littlegreen> Brandano static DHCP is used to assign always the same IP address to a network card's MAC Address. You don't have to input ip addresses manualy
[13:29] <epinky> sjd: "sudo file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio" gives any result?
[13:30] <Brandano> littlegreen: nice to know that...
[13:30] <sjd> epinky: error: no such file or directory
[13:30] <littlegreen> Brandano => you don't configure your network manualy => everything is OK... or it is not static DHCP
[13:31] <Brandano> littlegreen: I think you meant to say this to SmokeyD  :)
[13:31] <epinky> sijd: ouch :(  , you had to backed it up
[13:31] <littlegreen> Brandano I'm very sorry, I did...
[13:31] <littlegreen> SmokeyD static DHCP is used to assign always the same IP address to a network card's MAC Address. You don't have to input ip addresses manualy
[13:31] <SmokeyD> ow, wait, I indeed missed that
[13:31] <SmokeyD> :)
[13:31] <SmokeyD> littlegreen: yeah I know
[13:32] <DaNoObY> Hey guys I want to use chroot to update an ubuntu distriub via apt... What else beside envoking it via <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do?
[13:32] <Brandano> plus, "static" and "DHCP" don't usually fit in the same sentence. Unless you are talking about ip reservation :)
[13:32] <littlegreen> SmokeyD => you don't configure network manualy => Everything is ok.. or it is not static DHCP routing
[13:32] <SmokeyD> The problem is, I am not getting an IP through DHCP
[13:32] <SmokeyD> Brandano: I am indeed talking about a reservation
[13:32] <Brandano> so it's a matter of tweaking the DHCP server
[13:33] <Brandano> so that a MAC will have the same IP assigned
[13:33] <SmokeyD> I am not at home, I am in a business environment
[13:33] <sjd> epinky: uh oh. what to do now?
[13:33] <SmokeyD> So I'll try to explain again
[13:33] <SmokeyD> sorry if I'm not clear in my explanation
[13:33] <SmokeyD> The syadmin here setup an ip reservation for me based on my mac address
[13:34] <epinky> sjd: ok, anyway let's try "sudo apt-get install -y esound esound-clients esound-common libesd-alsa0"
[13:34] <SmokeyD> in his dhcp server
[13:34] <Brandano> SmokeyD: you mean your DHCP client doesn't find a DHCP server on broadcast?
[13:34] <SmokeyD> Brandano: yes
[13:34] <Brandano> hmm, can you actually ping he DHCP server if you assign a static ip manually?
[13:34] <SmokeyD> :) you sound so much clearer when you say it
[13:34] <SmokeyD> Brandano: yes I can
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <Riba^^m> a
[13:35] <FloodBot5> Riba^^m: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <zauber> Say I've got a server running a wiki under apache, postfix, dovecot, a webmail client, and samba file sharing - all on a local intranet. What sort of technology would I look into if I wanted all the users of wiki/email/filesharing to authenticate with the same password - I just want one place to set up user accounts for all these services. Is there some such thing?
[13:35] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10
[13:35] <ranjan> via command
[13:35] <AlexJones> Could anybody please help me with the following problem? http://pastebin.ca/1696317
[13:35] <Brandano> SmokeyD: I wish I also knew how to help you. TBH I am not really a networking expert
[13:35] <SmokeyD> Brandano: and when I set it to dhcp but don't start the network yet, then add a route to my local subnet on eth0, then say ifconfig eth0 up and then use dhclient3 -s <ip of dhcp server> I do get an ip address
[13:36] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10 via command
[13:36] <DaNoObY> Hey Guyz, I am tying to update an usb drive's ubuntu distro via a live as I dont have access to it! What else beside <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do? I want to use aptitute to update>
[13:37] <ranjan> how to chake out my input devise seting in ubuntu 9.10 via command  weater it's alsa, oss or pulse .. i am not sure so please help
[13:38] <Brandano> ranjan: audio input, not input device. Input devices are mice and keyboards
[13:38] <MaXlMuS>  hello good morning guys
[13:38] <Brandano> ranjan: by default on 9.x the audio is managed by pulse, both when recording and for playback
[13:38] <DaNoObY> Pease just give me a short hint! I know it is just one or two commands but not which?!? I am tying to update an USB drive's ubuntu distro via a live CD as I don't have access to it! What else beside <chroot /media/sda1> do I have to do? I want to use aptitute to update?
[13:38] <AlexJones> MaXlMuS, it is 14:37. You should get a litte earlier.
[13:39] <AlexJones> MaXlMuS, it is 14:37. You should get up a litte earlier.
[13:39] <Brandano> ranjan: you can check in the sound preferences, what is the entry for the audio recording
[13:39] <Brandano> ranjan: the "sound capture" item, I mean
[13:39] <MaXlMuS> i know but but...
[13:39] <MaXlMuS> tlol
[13:40] <DaNoObY> Who knows how to use chroot and has a few seconds for me?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:41] <sjd> epinky: trying.
[13:41] <DaNoObY> Who is familiar with chroot?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[13:41] <sjd> epinky: installed the packages. what next?
[13:42] <DaNoObY> !chroot?
[13:42] <Brandano> DaNoObY: careful what you do with chroot and "mount bind" directives
[13:42] <MikeChelen> bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, anyone know how to diagnose the problem?
[13:42] <ranjan> Brandano:: but it is not giving me any idea what short of codec it is ud=sing for inputing sound
[13:42] <DaNoObY> Bra
[13:42] <sjd> epinky: ?
[13:42] <epinky> sjd: reboot (and pray) you got rid of pulseaudio without following any guide(Don't do that again)
[13:43] <sponzor> can you install ubuntu server from ubuntu dvd?
[13:43] <ranjan> Brandano:: if you have any idea then let me know ...
[13:43] <amokpaule> Hello, i deletet by accident the bottom panel in gnome , can i somehow restore it?
[13:43] <MikeChelen> sponzor: think it requires the server cd
[13:44] <Brandano> ranjan: wave input. Should map to a mixer device. Usually alsa
[13:44] <DaNoObY> Brandano: I just need to now what else beside <chroot /media/sda1> I have to do, to get it fully invoked?
[13:44] <bazhang> !resetpanels | amokpaule
[13:44] <amokpaule> Ty
[13:44] <Python1320> Small test:VERSION
[13:45] <smb96> dont forget to mount /proc
[13:45] <Python1320> oh wow
[13:45] <Python1320> Those clients are very compatible
[13:45] <Brandano> DaNoObY: nothing really. You have to log in.
[13:45] <miha> :D
[13:45] <DaNoObY> Brandano: I just need to now what else beside <chroot /media/sda1> I have to do, to get it fully invoked? I know about the risk but it is just a usb junp dirve with no sensitive data
[13:45] <Python1320> Need to try quassel.
[13:45] <Lord-Readman> hi
[13:45] <Brandano> smb96: isn't that usually mounted via fstab?
[13:45] <Lord-Readman> how long does it take for ideas to get rejected or approved? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22712/
[13:46] <Brandano> DaNoObY: the risk is messing up your "host" os, not the usb drive
[13:46] <DaNoObY> doing with login username
[13:46] <DaNoObY> well my host is a live cd
[13:46] <DaNoObY> >(
[13:46] <ranjan> Brandano:: Analog superio duplex  is being used as hard ware profile  and i am not geting that what is that .. if you have any idea what that
[13:46] <Brandano> because if you have mount bind directives in fstab, some of the directories you see will actually be on your local HD
[13:47] <Brandano> ranjan: it's your soundcard chipset
[13:47] <smb96> Brandano, yes, but for me sometimes it does not work, so i do it manual
[13:47] <amokpaule> Its not restoring it to defaults
[13:47] <DaNoObY> Brandano: -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied    This is what I get
[13:47] <DaNoObY> if I login
[13:48] <Brandano> because the user has its home set to /dev/null
[13:48] <Brandano> and no permissions to it
[13:48]  * bleah leaving .
[13:48] <MaXlMuS> i wonder if this irc server is runing from a ubuntu machine =P
[13:48] <Brandano> not that having ermissions would help...
[13:48] <harovali1> hi, how can I deactivate the graphic environment in ubuntu karmic ?
[13:48] <miha> Brandano: well no permission is irrelavant :D /dev/null is not really useful :D
[13:48] <miha> hehe
[13:48] <miha> yeah
[13:49] <harovali1> i'd like the machine to be text-only
[13:49] <EagleScreen> harovali1: sudo service gdm stop
[13:49] <DaNoObY> so how can i chage that, or will I be able to run a full update using apt anyway
[13:49] <smb96> DaNoObY, how did you do the mount bind?
[13:49] <kosnick> hi , i got some issue (after upgrding to 9.10) with jack control. Every time i start jack control music in (all) players stops. By the moment i quit jack control music comes back again. Anything?
[13:49] <harovali1> EagleScreen: thanks; now how can I prevent gdm from starting at all ?
[13:49] <smb96> DaNoObY, why not?
[13:49] <DaNoObY> smb96: with <mount /media/sda1>
[13:49] <ranjan> Brandano:: so how to know which driver it is using onmy system
[13:50] <Brandano> harovali1: change the runlevel in init.d?
[13:50] <DaNoObY> smb96: I am just wondering
[13:50] <SmokeyD> Brandano: I just had to leave the dhcp server rest for a while I guess. After leaving the machine alone for a while, I do get normal dhcp replies
[13:50] <EagleScreen> harovali1: install rcconf package, run rcconf and disable gdm from the list
[13:50] <smb96> nono
[13:50] <SmokeyD> I guess it got the heebyjeebies or something
[13:50] <smb96> DaNoObY, not good
[13:50] <Brandano> SmokeyD: probably it had to wait until a cronjob started
[13:50] <sjd> epinky: hey. no sound still. what to do?
[13:50] <DaNoObY> why?
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96: why_
[13:51] <smb96> DaNoObY, search for a howto or something. You will break something if i just tell you the commands
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96: I was looking for one but didnt find one...
[13:51] <sjd> epinky: ? :(
[13:51] <DaNoObY> smb96:  so I was just tying out
[13:52] <harovali1> EagleScreen: in the rcconf list, gdm appears already deselected, is that suposed to represent the current runlevel configuration ? or should I call rcconf with parameters ?
[13:52] <epinky> sjd: read this carefully: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html I wanted to post this before, but ubuntugeek.com was down, bad luck :(
[13:53] <ubuntu__> hey all, looking for help with Huawei E620 USB modem, it gets recognised when I first plug it in, but then it dissappears from network manager. Can anyone give me a clue?
[13:53] <DaNoObY> ?
[13:53] <quizme> i installed a program called "maglev-rub" and i'm trying to figure out how much memory it takes up. how do i do that?
[13:54] <harovali1> Brandano: I tried that, but being the normal graphics runlevel "2" sonfused me. I expected it to be 5 , and be able to change 5 to 2, but being this the situation, I would know toi which runlevel change the system
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> hello everybody, i got a killer issue here. I upgraded the production ubuntu server here and i now got the issue that all non root processes cant get acces to the internet
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> i cant ping as normal use
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, there must be tons of it
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> my mailserver is also down because it cant resolve anymore
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> it can be bind or apparmor of whatever
[13:54] <smb96> DaNoObY, from "Preparing Your Working Environment"
[13:55] <EagleScreen> this is strange for me, harovali1
[13:55] <tuxcrafter> does somebody know how to debug this and get the system working again
[13:55] <smb96> they want to install grub, but you can use the chroot part
[13:55] <MikeChelen> quizme: look in system monitor process list
[13:56] <quizme> mikechelen thanks
[13:56] <MikeChelen> quizme: the same came be done from command line with "top" or "htop"
[13:56] <squircle> hi, is there a way i can chroot my sftp users? right now they all have access to the root filesystem when (ideally) i only want their root directory to be /srv
[13:56] <quizme> mikechelen my problem is that the process name is not descriptive
[13:57] <tuxcrafter> so the network is network unreachable as non root
[13:57] <EagleScreen> harovali1: you can usa other runlevel or edit the current
[13:57] <epinky> ubuntu__: bad news: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/456662
[13:57] <harovali1> EagleScreen: in fact, gdm dos not start from the rc system
[13:57] <AlexJones> Could anybody please help me with the following problem? http://pastebin.ca/1696317
[13:58] <squircle> AlexJones: i'm not an expert by any means, but i think it's a problem with your gconf... maybe the tmpdir is still set to /dev/mapper/encryptedVol-tmp?
[13:59] <ubuntu__> epinky: thanks for the link :)
[13:59] <EagleScreen> oh I see harovali1, it is not in any rcX.d
[13:59] <MikeChelen> quizme: what program is it?
[14:00] <EagleScreen> a few versions ago in Ubuntu it could be disables with rcconf
[14:00]  * jongbergs sits back
[14:00] <harovali1> EagleScreen: I mean, in spite of there being a /etc/init.d/gdm script , there is no S*gdm file in the /etc hierarchy (as you already noted above)
[14:00] <Brandano> harovali1: tbh, I don't remember which runlevel is which. Mainly I had to deal with it to turn the GDM ON rather than OFF. Let me try something
[14:00] <Brandano> !runlevel
[14:00] <quizme> mikechelen: rake maglev:start  <--- maglev ruby
[14:00] <sjd> epinky: it seems to be for 9.04
[14:00] <sjd> epinky:  i have installed pulseaudio again. now im at square 1.
[14:00] <harovali1> ubottu: oh
[14:00] <sjd> epinky: can you tell me what to do?
[14:01] <MikeChelen> quizme: do ruby programs show up as ruby processes?
[14:01] <quizme> mikechelen: yeah but this is a smalltalk process i think.
[14:01] <epinky> sjd: follow that guide it worked for some people having problems with Pulseaudio
[14:02] <jadakren> harovali1: ubottu is a ircbot... not a person behind the keyboard
[14:02] <sjd> epinky: but it is for jaunty. im on Karmic.
[14:03] <sjd> epinky: as in the how to, im not able to select alsa device in  karmic
[14:03] <Brandano> jadakren: you should see the number of people that tries o start a conversation with fajita in #apache
[14:03] <EagleScreen> Ubuntu is using upstart many versiona ago, when it already used upstart gdm was launched with rc system and rcconf was able to deselect it, i used to use it
[14:04] <sjd> epinky: got any clue?
[14:04] <Kalumba1> Can someone tell me why PPPoE doesn't work with Karmic (64 bit) fresh install? Fedora 12 handles it well and it also uses Network Manager. I have the log of on pastebin.com here: http://pastebin.com/m738c4c2f
[14:04] <epinky> sjd: you've got to switch to esd, that's my advice
[14:04] <antares> what's the repo address to install gnome 2.8?
[14:04] <mrXX>  to connect to my database i use localhost, similarly, what is the name to use for a database in ixwebhosting.com?
[14:05] <sjd> epinky: how do I do that?!
[14:05] <harovali1> jadakren: yes, I already realized, but it is being nice to me too :-)
[14:05] <MikeChelen> quizme: try sorting by username or process time to narrow the list?
[14:05] <harovali1> EagleScreen: that datum is very interesting
[14:05] <purvesh> how to log in .. like msg svr ?
[14:06] <MikeChelen> mrXX: ask your webhost, usually something like mysql.yourdomain.com
[14:06] <harovali1> EagleScreen: how would you try to do the same now? Should I dive into Upstart's workings?
[14:06] <epinky> sjd: maybe you're missing this: "sudo apt-get install padevchooser -y"
[14:06] <purvesh> how to log in .. like \msg svr ?
[14:06] <deserteagle> hello all, anyone know why Firefox keeps trying to launch nautilus to "Open Containing Folder" even though I told it to use something else?
[14:07] <EagleScreen> harovali1: or you switch to Debian, or you learn editing upstart stuff
[14:07] <harovali1> EagleScreen: I'd put debuian, but i'm doing a remote configuration, and the machine is already install, i'll try ti fix it in upstart
[14:07] <Brandano> incidentally, what is the point of running ubuntu without GDM?
[14:08] <purvesh> any 1 help me ... can any 1 say how to login in xchat, \nicksvr msg   ?
[14:08] <Brandano> unless it's a server, in which case there's purpose made distros
[14:08] <sjd> epinky: trying.
[14:08] <EagleScreen> harovali1: you alwaus can uninstall gdm
[14:08] <Brandano> purvesh: /msg nickserv help
[14:08] <Brandano> note the direction of th slash
[14:08] <purvesh> thanx
[14:09] <Brandano> also, in xchat you can login to nickserv automatically, setting it up in the networks section of the preferences
[14:09] <sjd> epinky: but my friend has a studio 15. of the same spec. he runs karmic with sound better than ever!
[14:09] <EagleScreen> if you uninstall gdm, and there is any other alternative like kdm or xdm, i think it won't start X automatically
[14:10] <Brandano> sjd: the way I fixed sound in 9.04 after an upgrade was to purge pulseaudio and reinstall it from scratch
[14:10] <deserteagle> anyone here use a file-manager other than nautilus?
[14:10] <purvesh> Brandano, hey how to see my log ... means in past .. what i ask .. n other stuff.. ?
[14:10] <sjd> epinky: I installed padevchooser. what next?
[14:11] <Brandano> purvesh: that's xchat specific... perhaps there's an #xchat channel?
[14:11] <EagleScreen> deserteagle: thunar is very good for me
[14:11] <deserteagle> EagleScreen, have you gotten thunar to open when you tell firefox to "Open Containing Folder" on downloads?
[14:11] <purvesh> Brandano, its k.......!
[14:11] <epinky> sjd: Applications->Sound and Video->Pulse Audio Device Choser
[14:11] <Codenut> I am running 8.04, Is the upgrade to 9.1 worth it?
[14:11] <deserteagle> yes
[14:12] <Codenut> What do I gain?
[14:12] <EagleScreen> deserteagle: i think it is easy to do
[14:12] <Brandano> Codenut: yes. probably easier to reinstall, though
[14:12] <Kalumba1> Can someone tell me why PPPoE doesn't work with Karmic (64 bit) fresh install? Fedora 12 handles it well and it also uses Network Manager. I have the log of on pastebin.com here: http://pastebin.com/m738c4c2f
[14:12] <MikeChelen> !upgrade
[14:12] <deserteagle> EagleScreen, were you able to? i'm having issues getting it to work
[14:12] <Codenut> Thanks
[14:13] <Brandano> Codenut: unless you are in a business environment. In which case, 8.04 is a LTS release, stick with it
[14:13] <harovali1> EagleScreen: yeah
[14:14] <jack__> hello
[14:15] <aperson> !hello | jack__
[14:15] <sjd> epinky: i can see the volume bars running as I play a file. but still  no soumd
[14:15] <Delano-193048473> In KDE I just killed Plasma and now my bars are gone... how do I reactivate?
[14:15] <sjd> epinky: what to do now? How do I get esound up? just install from synaptic?
[14:16] <epinky> epinky: if you have volume bars running then it's not a problem of drivers anyway
[14:16] <purvesh> Brandano, In ubuntu there is any software like .. remote connectivity like TeamViewer, that we can share files and other things?
[14:16] <epinky> sjd:  if you have volume bars running then it's not a problem of drivers anyway
[14:16] <sjd> epinky: so? what do you suggest?
[14:16] <MikeChelen> purvesh: remote desktop with VNC is built in
[14:16] <epinky> sjd:  something must be muted
[14:17] <sjd> epinky: tried everything
[14:17] <Brandano> purvesh: no idea what teamviewer is. there's several remote connectivity tools. The terminal sever client, the remote desktop tool, ... SSH!
[14:17] <purvesh> MikeChelen, so in that i can connect to my friend pc ?
[14:17] <yacc> I wondered if the initrd of Karmic can handle multiple encrypted volumes? (I'd need to add a new PV to my LVM)
[14:17] <MikeChelen> purvesh: yes, if your friend is also running ubuntu :)
[14:17] <epinky> sjd: "sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer"
[14:18] <sjd> epinky: i can get sound in the Jack
[14:18] <sjd> epinky: i used gnome-alsamixer. all volumes are high
[14:18] <purvesh> MikeChelen, so .. i can also.. se his Desktop screen?
[14:19] <sjd> epinky: ?
[14:19] <sjd> epinky: :(
[14:19] <epinky> sjd: play with gnome-alsamixer and gnome-volmanager, there is a new "per application" section
[14:19] <MikeChelen> purvesh: yup that is what it does, enable it in system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[14:20] <deserteagle> anyone know why Firefox launches nautilus to "Open Containing Folder" even though I told it to use something else?
[14:20] <sjd> epinky: i can see only totem in the application list. or am I looking at the wrong place?
[14:21] <epinky> sjd: "gnome-volume-control", then on Applications
[14:21] <dassouki> i'm trying to install a package from a website, i get an error failed to satisf all dependencies (broken cache) .... it's a 9.10 package
[14:22] <sjd> epinky: i can see only totem there. as im playing a sound in totem'
[14:22] <deserteagle> dassouki, use synaptic if possible
[14:22] <epaphus> Hey guys, if i forgot my root password how could i reset it?
[14:22] <purvesh> MikeChelen, ok... thanx bro... actually i hav to work like, in my office many pc are there so i hav to connect them from my pc. and watch there desktop screen also .. that what other people are doing there. that also i can do .. ?
[14:22] <LjL> !root | epaphus
[14:22] <epinky> sjd: have you tried with any other? vlc for example?
[14:22] <sjd> epinky: ?
[14:23] <kosnick> hi, everytime i use jack control music mutes (in any player). does anyone know anything about this?
[14:23] <sjd> epinky: yeah. tried vlc
[14:23] <MikeChelen> purvesh: yup, as long as they are all running ubuntu, and remote desktop has been enabled from the system menu
[14:23] <epaphus> LjL, i dont have my user passsword either
[14:23] <dassouki> deserteagle: it's not on synaptic
[14:23] <purvesh> MikeChelen, and if they also hav different OS then also i can do that?
[14:23] <AmokPaule> I have a creative sound cart. How can i aktive the mic. its unmuted but nothing happens when i speak.
[14:23] <deserteagle> epaphus, lmgtfy.com/?q=reset+root+password+ubuntu
[14:23] <epaphus> heh
[14:23] <LjL> epaphus: then you can reboot giving "init=/bin/sh" as a kernel option in GRUB, and then use "passwd username" to change the password
[14:23] <dassouki> AmokPaule: usually in your sound->input you'll have more than one mic option
[14:23] <Pici> deserteagle: Please don't do that, it is not helpful here.
[14:24] <dassouki> go through them, and see which one moves your indicator
[14:24] <deserteagle> dassouki, then you'll have to chase down the dependencies
[14:24] <LjL> deserteagle: you didn't even manage to make that an actual URL :(
[14:24] <sjd> epinky: no hope still.
[14:24] <sjd> epinky: what to do? i need sounb bad;y
[14:24] <dassouki> deserteagle: is there a way to do a build-dep on a .deb file
[14:24] <purvesh> MikeChelen, oh... thanx bro ... but there any other option or other Software to watch their pc.. if they hav different OS?
[14:24] <yacc> Can anyone tell me if the initrd is up to decrypting multiple devices?
[14:24] <sjd> epinky: *badly
[14:24] <purvesh> MikeChelen, do u have any idea if u dont mind?
[14:25] <AmokPaule> i have there input volume and input level
[14:25] <deserteagle> LjL: really? because I just tried it out and it worked, want me to help you find out how to insert URLs into firefox? :P
[14:25] <LjL> dassouki: build-dep is to obtain the *build* dependencies, not the *runtime* dependencies, so it makes no sense for a .deb file (which is a binary package)
[14:25] <MikeChelen> purvesh: if they are running another OS, then VNC server has to be installed, or use "reverse VNC" method - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489 (might be outdated)
[14:25] <epinky> sjd: if the jack is working then PulseAudio is working then something else is missing, mmm, sry no idea :(
[14:25] <Freeaqingme|> I just plugged in a usb stick, now where do I find its files? Lspci does display the stick, but in /dev there's only /dev/usbmonX (where 0 <= x <= 8), of which none is a block device
[14:25] <DaNoObY> smb96: thanks a lot for the link! sorry had to go and give my girlfriend a lift
[14:25] <yacc> purvesh, the issues are convience (VNC does work in Windows too for example), and network topology, ...
[14:25] <Adam75> Is there any program that can control the remote's buttons? I've been given a MCE remote and it works fine in Windows Media Center. But I dislike Windows Media Center. There's a big button with a windows sign on it, when I push it in windows the media center opens. Is it possible to redirect this button in Linux to open XBMC?
[14:25] <dassouki> LjL: thanks
[14:26] <deserteagle> dassouki, only way you'll get it to work will be to hunt each and every dependency and install them
[14:26] <Supremacy> hi there, i recently upgraded to karmic using the alternate cd, and after the upgrade it needed to restart, so i restarted, go to the booting logo of ubuntu and it froze there, restarted again and it flashed continuously something about ubuntu 'base-sector'
[14:26] <yacc> purvesh, that makes it all more complicated as it should be, because especially the kind of people that would benefit from help via desktop sharing are usually not capable of setting it all up :(
[14:26] <deserteagle> dassouki, i would suggest using firefox's ubuntu package search engine
[14:26] <sjd> epinky: uh oh (
[14:26] <LjL> deserteagle: valid HTTP URLs begin with a resource type of "http", so "http://host/etc". leaving out the "http://" is invalid, and won't appears as a URL in most IRC clients. please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Locator (which i've googled for you)
[14:26] <nmvictor> hdhhs
[14:27] <zodaice> De NGaB
[14:27] <nmvictor> how do i install java naming directory interface(JNDI)?I have downnloaded the zip files and i dont know what t do with them
[14:27] <smb96> DaNoObY, welcome
[14:27] <deserteagle> LjL, that's so nice of you!
[14:28] <Brandano> gottago, bbl
[14:28] <Freeaqingme|> I just plugged in a usb stick, now where do I find its files? Lspci does display the stick, but in /dev there's only /dev/usbmonX (where 0 <= x <= 8), of which none is a block device
[14:29] <purvesh> yacc, thanx...  but there any other Software except the Default ubuntu linux remote Desktop ?
[14:29] <Kartagis> I have a problem. I have two directories which both start with Kenan. when I type \ give a space and type the second word's first letter and hit Tab, one of them gets completely ignored. how can I fix this?
[14:29] <dassouki> deserteagle: i found alist of the packages and installing them right now
[14:29] <deserteagle> Kartagis, rename one of the directories
[14:29] <yacc> purvesh, as a server probably not, as client we do MS rdp too.
[14:29] <deserteagle> dassouki, best of luck
[14:29] <Supremacy> hi there, i recently upgraded to karmic using the alternate cd, and after the upgrade it needed to restart, so i restarted, go to the booting logo of ubuntu and it froze there, restarted again and it flashed continuously something about ubuntu 'base-sector'. does this mean i have to reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[14:30] <deserteagle> Supremacy, most likely it'll be the easiest fix
[14:30] <deserteagle> (to reinstall from scratch)
[14:30] <Supremacy> eish, are there no possible solutions apart from that?
[14:30] <LjL> !recovery | Supremacy, you might try to restore GRUB
[14:30] <purvesh> yacc, as a server means we cant see their desktop and share files ?
[14:31] <luist> what can i use to make a flowchart?
[14:31] <purvesh> yacc, so we cant share and see their Desktop in other Software?
[14:31] <Supremacy> ah ok
[14:31] <kosnick> hi, everytime i use jack control sound mutes (in any player). Does anyone know anything about this?
[14:31] <Supremacy> will try that now :)
[14:31] <Supremacy> thanks
[14:31] <yacc> server is what makes your desktop available.
[14:31] <jongbergs> luist: try kivio
[14:31] <yacc> client is what shows you somebody else desktop.
[14:31] <jongbergs> !info kivio | luist
[14:31] <khelll> when i ssh to the machine it seems it has no history buffer or something, i can't use arrow to get commands or anything like ctrl+ R
[14:31] <Pici> luist: or perhaps dia
[14:31] <yacc> Ok, qemu supports only 32bit guests? *wonder*
[14:32] <flakrat> anyone know what the command line command is to launch the Software Sources gui?
[14:32] <MikeChelen> bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, anyone have ideas?
[14:32] <purvesh> yacc, my pc is 64bit :(
[14:32] <yacc> purvesh, that's nothing todo with your problem.
[14:33] <TopKatz> I have a disk array that I just installed,  I partitioned it, then used pysdm to  add a mout point.  I gave it a name of 'files'  however it created /media/fiels
[14:33] <TopKatz> is this how it works?
[14:33] <kosnick> flakrat : when i need to do such a thing i usually right click on it to add it to the panel, then i just open the properties and i can see the command
[14:33] <TopKatz> can it be just /files
[14:33] <flakrat> and secondly what the command line is to launch "Update Manager"?
[14:33] <yacc> I'm trying to install quickly an ubuntu into a VM to see if I can add a second hdd to my PC.
[14:33] <yacc> As nobody here knows if my Ubuntu setup will work with a second hdd, it seems :)
[14:33] <flakrat> kosnick, I'm ssh'd in with X forwarding
[14:33] <Pici> yacc: What does quickly have to do with adding a hard drive?
[14:34] <kosnick> one moment then i can do it for you, which were the commands?
[14:34] <flakrat> I know I can run the cli tools, but want to check something via the gui
[14:34] <Pici> yacc: nevermind, I think I misread.
[14:34] <guntbert> flakrat: 1) gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk 2 )sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> yacc:  what does a vm have to do with a 2nd hd? You can easially add more hard drives to a linux install.
[14:34] <TopKatz> is there a way to have pysdm add the mout point to / and not /media?
[14:34] <kosnick> there you are , guntbert was quickeer
[14:34] <deserteagle> Pici, quickly simply means he's probably going to overlook something and blame it on ubuntu :P
[14:34] <yacc> Pici, well, I do need to know if the initrd can do cryptsetup on multiple PV volumes ;)
[14:34] <flakrat> guntbert, thanks
[14:35] <Adam75> 563256654
[14:35] <kosnick> everytime i use jack control sound mutes (in any player), is there any solution to this?
[14:35] <guntbert> flakrat: you're welcome :-) - you can always "edit the menus" to find out
[14:35] <Pici> yacc: I'm not sure sorry.  'quickly' is a name of an application for doing development work, I was a bit confused if thats what you were talking about.
[14:35] <yacc> Dr_Willis, so you know that initrd will not just stop working when I add a second physical volume to my root volume group?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> yacc:  i only use 'hard drives' I dont mess with cryptsetup and other fancy raid/lvm stuff.
[14:35] <alabd> good day everyone amen , ibm jre while installing on lenovo laptop says it is not ibm pc , why ?
[14:35] <jongbergs> TopKatz: better to manually edit fstab
[14:35] <purvesh> yacc, so other which software good and work in 64bit OS if u dont mincd then can u giv me the names of the Other Software ?
[14:35] <Freeaqingme|> I just plugged in a usb stick, now where do I find its files?
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Freeaqingme|:  in theory it should of launched a file manager, the thing should  be accessed via /media/SOMTHING
[14:36] <MikeChelen> purvesh: what's wrong with VNC?
[14:36] <Freeaqingme|> Dr_Willis, in /media there's only cdrom*
[14:36] <yacc> Dr_Willis, you don't know what you are missing out, I was capable of just migrating my old root volume to my new PC while I've been using the data, but the issue is how clever the initrd scripts are.
[14:36] <yacc> And I think they can only handle one crypted physical volume, but that's just a guess.
[14:36] <TopKatz> I just had to point to the location using the little folder
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> yacc:  no idea on that. I just use the 5+ hds in got on this linux box as simple mountpoints. :)
[14:37] <yacc> purvesh, I don't use stuff like that, so I'd had to google as much as you need to do it ;)
[14:37] <yacc> Dr_Willis, and I guess you have huge symlink farms trying to manage the space manually.
[14:37] <donita_> Hi everybody
[14:38] <jongbergs> !hi | donita_
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> yacc:  nope.. just /media/torrents /media/torrentvideos /media/torrentforthewife
[14:38] <yacc> Dr_Willis, and backups are not really important (because good backups are only possible with something like LVM)
[14:38] <yacc> Dr_Willis, *lol*
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> yacc:  and i got /media/torrentbackups
[14:38] <flakrat> guntbert, worked like a champ, thanks
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> :)
[14:38] <hedkandi> yo!
[14:38] <guntbert> flakrat: nice :)
[14:39] <donita_> I have a problem... I ah... have 4 partitions in my HDD, after I installed windows 7, my Ubuntu and Mint gone, but I looked for help from help.ubuntu.com/community/recoveringubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[14:39] <kosnick> everytime i use jack control, sound mutes (in any player), any reason for this?
[14:39] <yacc> Dr_Willis, anyway, LVM is quite a worthy feature, enabling stuff that cannot be done without it (like creating stable snapshots, managing space, adding hdds, ..)
[14:40] <yacc> Ok, qemu-system-x86_64 is for 64bit guests :)
[14:41] <donita_> I follow the instruction and my Ubuntu's back, but windows 7 gone, now.. how am I gonna do to make the 3 OSs all appears on my Boot Menu?
[14:41] <jongbergs> donita_: run os-prober
[14:41] <donita_> Is there anybody would like to help?
[14:41] <donita_> os-prober?
[14:41] <donita_> how?
[14:42] <jongbergs> donita_: but you need to consult this first
[14:42] <donita_> jongbergs, would you guide me step by step?
[14:42] <s7itch3s> Hey everyone. I just patched then compiled a kernel to add staging drivers for my WiFi card. I can boot from the new kernel, but I don't know if I need to modprobe / add to modules or what to get it working.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> 'update-grub' from the command line 'should' find/add windows to the menus.
[14:42] <jongbergs> !grub2 | donita_
[14:42] <jongbergs> donita_: follow the link referenced by ubottu
[14:42] <SavvyONE> donita: grub time
[14:42] <donita_> .............
[14:42] <alvern> hi all, could u tell me how can i totally remove mysql server from my ubuntu?
[14:43] <donita_> ok, thanks, I'll try
[14:43] <deserteagle> alvern sudo apt-get purge mysql
[14:43] <alvern> deserteagle, ty
[14:43] <deserteagle> yw
[14:43] <donita_> I mean, how to add windows 7 on my boot menu?
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> 'update-grub' from the command line 'should' find/add windows to the menus.
[14:43] <Linux-IR1> Has anyone set up bind on ubuntu ?
[14:44] <alvern> deserteagle: E: Couldn't find package mysql
[14:44] <deserteagle> alvern, mysql-server
[14:44] <deserteagle> Linux-IR1, bind as in a keyboard bind? a program called bind?
[14:44] <linimoo> msg nickserv identify moomlyn
[14:45] <deserteagle> you forgot the password
[14:45] <alvern> deserteagle: done, thanks) so when i reinstall it, will it ask me to create new root user? )
[14:45] <deserteagle> no clue at that point =\
[14:45] <deserteagle> linimoo, oh wait... you DID type in the password
[14:45] <jcrawford> linimoo, you don't specify the nickname just /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[14:45] <blc> sup?
[14:45] <jcrawford> lol change your password now :)
[14:45] <deserteagle> :D
[14:45] <deserteagle> naaah
[14:46] <SavvyONE> Hey, Does anyone know of any guides to customize karmic for my old laptop (1.4ghz 1gb)
[14:46] <linimoo> \msg nickserv identify moomlyn
[14:46] <jcrawford> lol
[14:46] <Doonz> Hey Guys, I just installed a new raid card. I built a raid 5 array. When i fdisk -l my drives heres the output. http://pastebin.com/d470e15e7 <-- is that correctly set up?
[14:46] <jcrawford> wrong /
[14:46] <linimoo> whoops
[14:46] <deserteagle> omg... too funny
[14:46] <Pici> linimoo: I suggest you change your password.
[14:46] <purvesh> MikeChelen, oh.. sry.. bro .. i just came... nothing bro.. i have to just know that which is other option ofr vnc
[14:46] <jcrawford> linimoo, you best change your password :)
[14:46] <deserteagle> like... NOW
[14:46] <jcrawford> NOW
[14:46] <student> noit?
[14:46] <jcrawford> lol
[14:46] <student_> :D
[14:46]  * jongbergs lol
[14:47] <student> ty pisz ta komende
[14:47] <donita_> ok then..... I'm going to read the link, I hope I can make it
[14:47] <student> jak napisac kalkulator wie ktos?:d
[14:47] <linimoo> jcrawford, don't suppose you know the command for that off the top of your head?
[14:47] <hullo> helllo I am running ubuntu 9.10 this morning it keeps locking up wheb my desktop starts
[14:47] <student> wie ktos jak napisac kalkulator?
[14:47] <deserteagle> linimoo, i think it's nickserv <password> change <newpassword>
[14:47] <deserteagle> <.<
[14:47] <jcrawford> linimoo, /msg nickserv help
[14:47] <jcrawford> :)
[14:48] <SavvyONE> Hey, Does anyone know of any guides to customize karmic for my old laptop (1.4ghz 1gb)
[14:48] <deserteagle> SavvyONE, customize what?
[14:48] <jcrawford> linimoo, /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD swordfish
[14:48] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Hi,
[14:48] <s7itch3s> Can someone help with this: I followed this tutorial "http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8418749&postcount=26" to get my same exact card working, it went fine, but I cannot see any available wireless networks nor connect to one
[14:48] <linimoo> jcrawford, thanks
[14:48] <Linux-IRC> Has anyone set up bind on ubuntu ?
[14:48] <jcrawford> linimoo, no problem
[14:49] <deserteagle> Linux-IRC, what do you mean by 'bind'? is it a program or are you talking about keyboard binds?
[14:49] <blc> that's a secret
[14:49] <SavvyONE> desserteagle just want to stop process and tweak up the install to get it a bit more responsive
[14:49] <jongbergs> Linux-IRC: try to ask your question in #ubuntu-server
[14:49] <jacek_> #include<stdio.h>
[14:49] <jacek_> #include<math.h>
[14:49] <jacek_> int main()
[14:49] <jacek_> {
[14:49] <jacek_> float a, b;
[14:49] <jacek_> printf("Podaj liczby\n");
[14:49] <jacek_> printf("a= ");
[14:49] <deserteagle> floodbot!
[14:49] <jacek_> scanf("%f", &a);
[14:49] <jacek_> printf("b= ");
[14:49] <jacek_> scanf("%f", &b);
[14:49] <jacek_> switch (wynik)
[14:49] <jacek_> {
[14:49] <jcrawford> moomlyn, you should also do /msg nickserv set enforce on <-- that makes you have to identify
[14:49] <jacek_> case +
[14:50] <FloodBot5> jacek_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:50] <MikeChelen> purvesh: there is also Rdesktop and FreeNX, but they don't work quite the same as VNC, so might not be as good for your usage
[14:50] <deserteagle> SavvyONE, System > Administration > System Monitor   (that will help with the stopping a process)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:51] <jongbergs> donita_: how is it now?
[14:51] <deserteagle> if you want them to not even launch when you boot up, System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[14:51] <deserteagle> linimoo, make sure you change your password from swordfish to something else
[14:51] <deserteagle> :P
[14:51] <deserteagle> lol
[14:51] <jcrawford> deserteagle, hah yea i should have stated that lol
[14:51] <purvesh> MikeChelen, thanx bro :)
[14:51] <deserteagle> jcrawford, xD lol
[14:52] <deserteagle> poor guy...
[14:52] <jcrawford> ya it's happened to me in the past
[14:52] <jcrawford> not twice in a row but it's happened :)
[14:52] <deserteagle> that one little slash...
[14:52] <hullo> helllo I am running ubuntu 9.10 this morning it keeps locking up wheb my desktop starts I can move the mouse but can't click anything
[14:52] <jcrawford> now i setup the client to auto ident and i don't have to worry about it anymore
[14:52] <jcrawford> hullo, sure your mouse buttons work lol j/k :)
[14:52] <deserteagle> hullo, make sure it's not just your mouse
[14:53] <jcrawford> oh see i would have been on point with that lol
[14:53] <hullo> haha :(
[14:53] <deserteagle> no joke mate, i've had that happen only because my mouse was out of range ever so slightly
[14:53] <deserteagle> keyboard too,
[14:54] <hullo> no there's something weird going on
[14:54] <deserteagle> by any chance, are you using openbox?
[14:54] <hullo> no
[14:54] <Rprp`> Hello, i am trying to install mysql, but when i start it i get the following error: 'mysql: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64' - can someone help me out please?
[14:54] <deserteagle> no clue then :S
[14:54] <wiehan> Hi. I need some urgent help. I just finised installing ubuntu through wubi on a someone's laptop that desperately wants to try linux. Afte wubi install, I installed updates, gnucash, restricted-extras, etc. Now after booting ubuntu it gives me a "GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4" screen with a flashing sh:grub> prompt. How can I get ubuntu 9.10 to boot again??
[14:55] <guntbert> Rprp`: how did you try to install it?
[14:55] <donita_> jongbergs, it is hard for me, but I will listen to you guys' advice to keep reading
[14:55] <MikeChelen> Rprp`: how are you installing mysql?
[14:55] <Rprp`> guntbert, MikeChelen: a pre compiled package
[14:55] <wiehan> Any Grub/Wubi experts here?
[14:55] <guntbert> Rprp`: why don't you use the one from the repos?
[14:55] <donita_> But I was very happy that I saved my whole system by following the instruction of Ubuntu Documentation
[14:55] <MikeChelen> purvesh: VNC is a good standard because there are many server and client programs for different OS
[14:55] <SavvyONE> Hey guys if I pull out compiz would it break anything?
[14:56] <guntbert> !lamp | Rprp`
[14:56] <deserteagle> nope
[14:56] <Rprp`> guntbert: Using a control panel (Directadmin)
[14:56] <donita_> It was really help, despite of I don't understand those commands at all
[14:56] <wiehan> I am facing an sh:grub> flashing prompt and can't get into ubuntu again. It is a wubi install. Please help me fix this.
[14:57] <donita_> I was doing "sudo -i.... then fdisk -l and....mkdir /media/root ...then mount /dev//// /media/root
[14:57] <dahou> hello folks
[14:57] <denneb> Hello.
[14:57] <jongbergs> donita_: are you refering to this section? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[14:57] <SavvyONE> If I pull out compiz you think I can get install it later without issues?
[14:57] <dahou> could someone please help me with my build in camera on my laptop?
[14:57] <donita_> and ls /mediaroot/boot and then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/rooot /edv/sda
[14:58] <bibekp> i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400.
[14:58] <guntbert> Rprp`: you will be getting more / needing less help if you use the repos
[14:58] <dahou> it is not recognized by xubuntu 9.10
[14:58] <MikeChelen> Rprp`: try using tasksel, it works very well "sudo tasksel install lamp-server"
[14:58] <donita_> then I reboot but I did change the flag which the instruction didn't tell me to
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> SavvyONE:  why 'pull it out' just dont use it.
[14:58] <donita_> I wondering, if I didn't change the boot flag, will I still be successfully boot ?
[14:59] <jongbergs> donita_: do you have other pc from which you can do the chatting?
[14:59] <SavvyONE> Dr_Willis I just dont want any running processes
[14:59] <researcher> How can I know if my system needs a 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu 9.10?
[14:59] <donita_> yes jongbergs
[14:59] <deserteagle> wiehan, try this out http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2006-03/msg00120.html
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> SavvyONE:  if you are not using compiz. then its not running.. just use the metacity windowq manager. not compiz
[14:59] <donita_> yes, I have 2 PCs
[14:59] <dahou> build in webcam not recognized by xubuntu 9.10. any solution?
[14:59] <donita_> jongbergs I have 2 PCs
[14:59] <Kartagis> researcher, if your system is 64bits, you need 64 bit
[15:00] <donita_> would you guys slow down the scrolling so I can catch up
[15:00] <researcher> Kartagis actually I dont knwo how to check if mine is 64 bit or 32 bit?
[15:00] <Adam75>  Is there any program that can control the remote's buttons? I've been given a MCE remote and it works fine in Windows Media Center. But I dislike Windows Media Center. There's a big button with a windows sign on it, when I push it in windows the media center opens. Is it possible to redirect this button in Linux to open XBMC? I'm trying with lirc but without bigger sucess
[15:00] <jongbergs> researcher: from the terminal type uname -m
[15:00] <researcher> ok
[15:01] <TopKatz> Im trying to move my www dir and keep my permissions,  however I dont want var just www, Im using tar pzcf.. what should I use
[15:01] <bibekp> i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400. here is what the log says: http://pastie.org/721777
[15:01] <Adam75>  Is there any program that can control the remote's buttons? I've been given a MCE remote and it works fine in Windows Media Center. But I dislike Windows Media Center. There's a big button with a windows sign on it, when I push it in windows the media center opens. Is it possible to redirect this button in Linux to open XBMC?
[15:01] <donita_> After I reboot, I did "root (hd0,3) and setup (hd0,0)
[15:01] <dahou> could someone help me with the configuration of my build in webcam on a xubuntu 9.10 x64?
[15:01] <jongbergs> researcher: if it returns amd64 then it's 64-bit
[15:01] <donita_> then I reboot again, then my menu is back!! I was so happy
[15:01]  * Gintulis is away: Gone away for now
[15:01] <AmokPaule> Is there a guide somewhere how to activate the mic with a creative xifi soundcard?
[15:01] <jongbergs> donita_: can you boot off the live cd on the computer in question
[15:02]  * Gintulis is back.
[15:02] <donita_> but now, the windows 7 is gone,
[15:02] <guntbert> !away | Gintulis
[15:02] <donita_> please wait
[15:02] <donita_> brb...
[15:02] <Kartagis> researcher, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[15:03] <jongbergs> researcher: if it returns amd64 then it's 64-bit, otherwise 32-bit
[15:03] <researcher> ok
[15:03] <dahou> apt: moo needs help
[15:03] <TopKatz> Im using tar pzcf /files/www.tgz /var/www  - however I dont want the extracting archive to lead with /var
[15:03] <om26er> wow!
[15:03] <TopKatz> how do I do that
[15:03] <jeff_b> An odd situation: when I click Places->Computer, I get a very fleeting glimpse of a new window, then it disappears. Likewise, from any file manager window, clicking the "Computer" button causes it to vanish. Is there some way to run the file manager from a terminal session so I can look for error messages?
[15:03] <TopKatz> Im opening with zxf
[15:04] <TopKatz> should I use something differnt to just get www out
[15:04] <Kartagis> TopKatz, try that in /var, not root
[15:04] <jadakren> jeff_b: which version of ubuntu?
[15:04] <TopKatz> oic
[15:04] <TopKatz> go to var and just do /www
[15:04] <Kartagis> yes
[15:04] <jadakren> jeff_b: Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[15:04] <jeff_b> Ubuntu
[15:04] <donita_> jangbergs, what do you mean "..... in question"/
[15:05] <jeff_b> And Gnome
[15:05] <donita_> jangbergs, what do you mean "..... in question"??
[15:05] <jadakren> jeff_b: nautilus is the command you want
[15:05] <madcheeze> is there a wireless bug for karmic? i drop connection once in a while for no reason...
[15:05] <jongbergs> donita_: i mean, boot the computer from boot cd
[15:05] <jadakren> jeff_b: you know how to bring up a console window?
[15:05] <donita_> jongbergs, sure I can
[15:05] <Fizix> madcheeze, I haven't experienced any problems. When does it drop out? How are you connected?
[15:06] <bibekp> i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400. here is what the log says: http://pastie.org/721777
[15:06] <jongbergs> donita_: ok try to do it now..
[15:06] <jeff_b> Trying "nautilus --browser"
[15:06] <donita_> that's how I repaired my all broken Menu
[15:06] <maxstirner1> this is really winding me up. boot process is haning somewhere in middle (karmic) and i cant find any errors in the log files
[15:06] <madcheeze> Fizix, i am wireless with a atheros card...
[15:06] <madcheeze> Fizix, works great in windows...
[15:06] <donita_> do it now? Could we do it here?
[15:06] <donita_> I am in Ubuntu
[15:06] <jadakren> jeff_b: in anycase it's <alt+f2> type gnome-terminal
[15:07] <jongbergs> donita_: your problem is windows 7 is not on the grub menu list, righ?
[15:07] <jadakren> jeff_b: just "nautilus", or "nautilus --no-desktop" to prevent it rendering the desktop icons (if you've already killed nautilus from the process list)
[15:07] <Fizix> madcheeze, have you looked in the synaptic package manager to see if there are any special drivers for your card?
[15:07] <jeff_b> OK, thanks jadakren
[15:07] <donita_> ahmm... let me say this way, jongbergs and others
[15:08] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, though it is still connected in bluetooth manager. any ideas?
[15:08] <donita_> Windows 7 is the last OS I installed on my HDD
[15:08] <researcher> thanks Jongbergs.
[15:08] <wiehan> if anyone has grub issues after upgrading a wubi install here is the solution: http://www.omaregan.com/?p=583
[15:08] <beachdaze> morning/afternnon/evening all any recommendations on which dock to try?
[15:08] <madcheeze> Fizix, no, but it worked right out of the box and it didnt work right out of the box in 9.04. i had to enable backports jaunty to get it to work then...
[15:08] <deserteagle> bonus points to whoever can tell me how to replace nautilus with rox-filer for firefox's "Open Containing Folder"!
[15:08] <Untox> salut
[15:09] <jadakren> beachdaze: what qualities are you looking for in a dock?
[15:09] <jeff_b> Heh. Nautilus throws a segfault ...
[15:09] <Untox> francais ?
[15:09] <jeff_b> Got GFileInfo with NULL name in computer:///, ignoring. This shouldn't happen unless the gvfs backend is broken.
[15:09] <guntbert> !fr | Untox
[15:09] <Fizix> Can anyone please help me in getting my Westel Verizon DSL Modem to communicate with Karmic? I attempt autoeth it and nothing happens.
[15:09] <beachdaze> jadakren: os x like for one, otherwise no real requirements
[15:09] <Doonz> how do i see how big a drive is?
[15:09] <researcher> where can I learn a summary of command line ?
[15:10] <erUSUL> !cli | researcher
[15:10] <researcher> i mena list of commands
[15:10] <researcher> thanks ubottu
[15:10] <jongbergs> donita_: the grub2 wiki outlines how to use os-probe to probe for existing windows installation and adds it to the grub2 menu
[15:10] <donita_> First I install Ubuntu then Mint, the Menu goes to control by Mint at first, then somehow I update Ubuntu with about 100MB stuff, then I reboot, then I found Ubuntu took over the boot Menu again, which was FINE to me (I don't know who takes the control of boot Menu, if they can work, I can choose between them, who control it doesn't matter much to me) but when Windows 7 came alone, then everything is gone, There will be ONLY windows 7 o
[15:10] <donita_> n system when booting up, NO MENU, no nothing.
[15:11] <madcheeze> Fizix, output of lspci - 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[15:11] <jadakren> beachdaze: tried gnome-do in docky mode?
[15:11] <legend2440> Doonz: in terminal    df -h
[15:11] <jadakren> beachdaze: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[15:11] <Doonz> thanx
[15:12] <beachdaze> jadakren: no I haven't  Iplayed with cairo some time ago is all, this is 9.04
[15:12] <seidos> is there a way to get emails from launchpad bug activity?
[15:12] <donita_> so, I follow the instructions from Ubuntu  Documentation
[15:12] <donita_> followed
[15:12] <donita_> and I made it!!
[15:12] <jadakren> beachdaze: ok, check this out for a intro : http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Docky
[15:12] <Doonz> /dev/sdb1             2.0T  199M  1.9T   1% /home/schwyl/raidsets/array1
[15:12] <donita_> so.... the problem now, is how do I add windows 7 onto my boot up Menu?
[15:12] <Doonz> that array is actually 4tb
[15:12] <beachdaze> jadakren: thanks!
[15:13] <donita_> jongbergs, so, still the link you guys gave me?
[15:13] <jadakren> beachdaze: it needs a compositing d/e to work though...so something like compiz or metacity with compositing enabled
[15:13] <Black_Phantom> hgsqajhzxvsdf
[15:13] <donita_> Is there anything I should know before I read the link?
[15:13] <jongbergs> donita_: wait, after installing win 7 the grub menu has gone?
[15:13] <beachdaze> jadakren: I will look into it, thanks again
[15:14] <donita_> jongbergs, so you mean, I don't have to learn how to EDIT the menu language, just go "os-probe"? is that right?
[15:14] <trijntje> seidos, subscribe to a bug?
[15:15] <Galaxor> I installed postgresql-8.3 and 8.4.  I decided I didn't need 8.3, so I apt-get removed it.  It left /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 and /var/lib/postgresql-8.3.  I deleted those.  Then I decided I wanted 8.3 after all, so I apt-get installed postgresql-8.3 again.  It did not put the init script or the data directory back.  What do I do?
[15:15] <jadakren> jeff_b: looks like you got some research ahead of you...
[15:15] <donita_> Yup! jongbergs, after installing win7, the grub menu had gone, nothing appears, booting up turned out goes into Windows 7 directly, no menu, so Windows 7 is MENU KILLER
[15:15] <jeff_b> jadakren: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1272771.html
[15:15] <deserteagle> Windows has ALWAYS been a grub menu killer
[15:16] <jadakren> donita_: thats because windows is not grub aware so it will overwrite the boosector with its own bootloader
[15:16] <deserteagle> that's why most tutorials tell you to install it first, THEN linux
[15:16] <seidos> trijntje: thank you i'll try
[15:16] <donita_> but I saved it by many commands which is Ubuntu Documentation told me to. It was really big help
[15:16] <bibekp> I'm repeating it again since noone seems to have noticed :)
[15:16] <bibekp> i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400. here is what the log says: http://pastie.org/721777
[15:16] <trijntje> seidos, you should get automatic updates if you filed the bug yourself
[15:16] <donita_> jadakren, so, what do I do next?
[15:17] <trubld> my iwl3945 doesnt load up every time i boot my system.Its only sometimes that my wlan device runs.mine is 8.10
[15:17] <legend2440> Doonz: http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit
[15:17] <deserteagle> bibekp, reinstall ntfs-3g
[15:17] <jongbergs> donita_: yes, we will try to reinstall grub
[15:17] <Galaxor> Is there maybe some sort of apt-get flags I can pass to make it for sure install all the files?
[15:17] <deserteagle> bibekp, purge it first
[15:17] <bibekp> deserteagle, ok
[15:17] <Fizix> I'm surprised there would even be a limit in place
[15:17] <Fizix> Well, a 2TB limit anyway
[15:18] <Fizix> What of the Server folk running Ubuntu; that can't be too convenient.
[15:18] <donita_> reinstall grub, but I think grub is doing all right.... because windows 7 was the last OS I installed, maybe that's why grub didn't notice it?
[15:18] <jadakren> !grub | donita
[15:19] <deserteagle> donita_, yeah, always install windows first, THEN linux
[15:19] <deserteagle> windows is not multi-boot friendly
[15:19] <Fizix> donita_, I second what deserteagle said; it makes life so much easier
[15:19] <donita_> deserteagle, yes, I know, but I am sure you guys can EDIT the menu, right?
[15:19] <jadakren> !grub | donita_
[15:20] <deserteagle> donita_, let me give you a hint I wish someone would've given me a LOOOONG time about about linux
[15:20] <jadakren> donita_: info in the links there for you
[15:20] <donita_> What did deserteagle say?
[15:20] <deserteagle> donita_, there are usually 2 ways of doing things in linux: the easy way, and the time-consuming, pain-in-the-back way
[15:20] <deserteagle> donita_, which one do you want?
[15:21] <donita_> deserteagle.... ahmmmm........ let me think
[15:21] <donita_> Can I have both?
[15:21] <nytek_> hey everyone, im trying to debug my laptop suspend issue. when i close the lid i get a weird sound. i did have it working prior to writing my own .xinitc file, i think i might have left something out of it to ensure the suspend to work
[15:21] <deserteagle> no
[15:21] <jongbergs> donita_: the reason you can't see the grub menu because windows 7 overwrites it..you should have installed win 7 first
[15:21] <bibekp> deserteagle, i still get the same error
[15:22] <deserteagle> bibekp, hmm...
[15:22] <donita_> I know I should have installed win 7 first.......... but I would like to know the alternative way of post installed fix
[15:22] <deserteagle> yes there is
[15:22] <Lord-Readman> Brainstormers please vote http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22712/
[15:22] <bibekp> deserteagle, what might be the problem ?
[15:22] <deserteagle> donita_, noone here is going to step you through it, though
[15:22] <donita_> I know you guys can fix this problem
[15:22] <jadakren> donita_: did you not see the links i just posted to you that show you the answer?
[15:22] <donita_> Just give me an instruction
[15:22] <deserteagle> i could if i wanted to spend the next 20349720938 hours
[15:22] <Pwnlord> hey
[15:22] <deserteagle> donita_, it was ALREADY given to you
[15:23] <Lehoo> exit
[15:23] <jadakren> donita_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:23] <donita_> jadakren.... where?
[15:23] <Fizix> turbo
[15:23] <nytek_> hey everyone, im trying to debug my laptop suspend issue. when i close the lid i get a weird sound. i did have it working prior to writing my own .xinitc file, i think i might have left something out of it to ensure the suspend to work
[15:23] <Pwnlord> i just installed world of warcraft in wine and it doesn't seem to be working, when i click to start the game it says permission denied
[15:23] <donita_> deserteagle give it to me again plz
[15:23] <nytek_> Pwnlord: start it in root
[15:23] <deserteagle> donita_, it's what EVERYONE has been posting you on
[15:23] <jadakren> !grub | donita_
[15:23] <Pwnlord> nytek_ how do i do that?
[15:23] <jadakren> ...
[15:23] <nytek_> Pwnlord: sudo "WOW or whatever WOW is named under linux"
[15:24] <donita_> yeah, I know this like, I saved my menu from that link, it was a BIG BIG HELP. but now, as I said, how do I add win 7 onto my boot MENU?
[15:24] <deserteagle> donita_, see all those messages from ubottu?
[15:24] <jadakren> nytek_: why would you suggest running WoW as root?
[15:24] <Pwnlord> it says that i don't have permission to change to the wow folder
[15:24] <ibuclaw> nytek_, sudo isn't the answer to everything
[15:24] <Fizix> I'm having the darnedest time getting Ubuntu to connect to my DSL modem, any help?
[15:24] <donita_> yes, I can see you, but the scrolling is running up a little fast
[15:25] <deserteagle> !grub > donita_
[15:25] <deserteagle> there
[15:25] <donita_> ok, ubttu
[15:25] <deserteagle> now it's not going to scroll anywhere
[15:25] <Fizix> !DSL > fizix
[15:25] <nytek_> ibuclaw: trial and error my friend, trial and error
[15:25] <ibuclaw> nytek_, if you installed it correctly in the first place... ;)
[15:26] <deserteagle> bibekp, I honestly have no clue, it *seems* to me like you should reinstall/recompile your kernel
[15:26] <nytek_> ibuclaw: well, im not the dood who installed WoW on his machine :D so im just throwing ideas out there :D
[15:26] <nytek_> anybody know what i can do with my issue?
[15:26] <donita_> thank you all, ubottu, deserteagle and all. So... I could fix it up by myself if I look up the link again?
[15:26] <ibuclaw> nytek_, ideally, you should never always have to use sudo persistently - and if you are - then you are doing something wrong.
[15:26] <deserteagle> donita_, yes
[15:26] <jadakren> nytek_: first thing you determine is if the launcher/updater has changed the permissions on the folder.
[15:27] <donita_> I mean, the MENU is all right now, just lack of win 7, you guys know what I mean?
[15:27] <ibuclaw> nytek_, what was your issue?
[15:27] <jadakren> nytek_: then you have them run through the WoW page on help.ubuntu.com
[15:27] <nytek_> jadakren: i actually tend to use it a lot when editing root files
[15:27] <nytek_> hey everyone, im trying to debug my laptop suspend issue. when i close the lid i get a weird sound. i did have it working prior to writing my own .xinitc file, i think i might have left something out of it to ensure the suspend to work
[15:27] <nytek_> sorry for the repost :)
[15:28] <deserteagle> donita_, at this point, I am going to assume you like yanking people's chains
[15:28] <Fizix> donita_ type sudo update-grub
[15:28] <Fizix> See if anything helps there
[15:28] <nytek_> but thats the issue
[15:28] <MrKeuner> hi, why doesn't Ubuntu come with selinux by default, if it is really secure linux?
[15:28] <Fizix> nytek_, I wish I was smart enough to help ya out on that one :/ If you're writting your own files, you're worlds ahead of me
[15:28] <MrKeuner> is it a US only thing/
[15:28] <donita_> you know, It was a huge release when I first solve the problem myself, if you know what I man, I am a really outsider of computer, not to mention Linux...
[15:28] <donita_> solved
[15:28] <donita_> mean
[15:28] <nytek_> Fizix: its ok brother, i had it working but then i modded some things and now it wont suspend
[15:29] <holloh> MrKeuner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor
[15:29] <ares623> what's the command for mounting the other partition on my hard disk?
[15:29] <donita_> yanking? NY?
[15:29] <trijntje> ares623, mount?
[15:29] <donita_> Fizix, sudo update-grub now?
[15:29] <nytek_> Fizix: the reason why i got into writing my own files was because of vim
[15:29] <ares623> the one on Places>nn GB Filesystem
[15:29] <Fizix> nytek_ would you care for my file? I can upload it to you and perhaps you can use that as a frame of reference. That's about as good as I can help :/
[15:29] <ibuclaw> nytek_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[15:29] <MrKeuner> holloh, OK thanks
[15:29] <donita_> slow down, guys
[15:29] <Fizix> Donita_ give it a try, it won't hurt anything
[15:29] <ares623> it allows me to access files/folders on my Windows install
[15:29] <donita_> the scroll is going up too fast
[15:30] <ibuclaw> nytek_, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
[15:30] <deserteagle> could someone please put this on the topic? "This channel is for helping you with your ubuntu technical problems, not your life problems or ubuntu rants. Thank you"
[15:30] <donita_> Fizix, thanks!!
[15:30] <deserteagle> :D i think it would solve a lot
[15:30] <erUSUL> deserteagle: ask in #ubuntu-ops ;)
[15:30] <donita_> donita@donita-desktop:~$ sudo update-grub
[15:30] <donita_> [sudo] password for donita:
[15:30] <donita_> Generating grub.cfg ...
[15:30] <donita_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-15-generic
[15:30] <donita_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-15-generic
[15:30] <FloodBot1> donita_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <donita_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[15:30] <trijntje> feedback is our friend
[15:31] <ibuclaw> !paste donita_
[15:31] <ibuclaw> !paste > donita_
[15:31] <hakan> slm
[15:32] <ibuclaw> donita_, you can talk now. :)
[15:32] <donita_> really?
[15:32] <donita_> I hope I did do anythig wrong
[15:32] <hakan> hello
[15:32] <ibuclaw> donita_, nah, just don't paste multiple lines in here at once
[15:33] <donita_> Would you guys wait here? I'm gonna reboot to see if that "su do updat-grub" work? (I wish someone teach me what's this mean?)
[15:33] <nibbler> hi. i just upgraded to 9.10. i start rhythmbox, and it cant find any of my mp3s on my network share. funny thing is, i was able to play any of my mp3s with rhythmbox, while watching it remove one-by-one of my songs from the "inventory", everytime it hit one of the songs i was just playing it stopped playback, continued with the next one until this was gone, too etc. any solution to this?
[15:33] <hakan> rarcrack
[15:33] <ibuclaw> donita_, update-grub reinstalls grub into the MBR (master boot record).
[15:33] <donita_> you know, I love Ubuntu better than Mint, mint is just copying Ubuntu...
[15:33] <ares623> what's the command for mounting my Windows partition so that I can access its files/folders through the terminal? is that possible?
[15:34] <trijntje> donita_, sudo means "SUperuser DO"
[15:34] <khelll> when i ssh to the machine it seems it has no history buffer or something, i can't use arrow to get commands or anything like ctrl+ R
[15:34] <MikeChelen> !ntfs
[15:34] <ibuclaw> donita_, it's all in the eye of the beholder, but reboot and see if that works for you.
[15:34] <saturdayplace> I've got a new ubuntu server up, but its networking keeps going screwy on me:  Every so often the IP address shown by ifconfig gets changed and is different that the one in /etc/networking/interfaces.
[15:34] <trijntje> ares623, the command is called mount. type man mount to find out more
[15:35] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: you did specify static in /etc/networking/interfaces right?
[15:35] <ares623> trijntje, yes i know about mount.. but what do I mount?
[15:35] <trijntje> ares623, /dev/sda* where * is the partition number of your ntfs disk
[15:35] <donita_> ibuclaw.... can I ask you something? I partitions the HDD into 3 Primary +1 extendend to avold Evil windows 7 at add another partition, but it did some trick to add a 1MB space which is unallocated area, what's that space for?
[15:35] <trijntje> ares623, like mount /dev/sda2 /mnt to mount sda2 partition at /mnt
[15:36] <sporedi> dear friends i am new to ubuntu ,this is my very 1st server installtion
[15:36] <sporedi> how do login to system and how do login with root
[15:36] <donita_> ok, I'll be back soon, give me 3 mins, I am going to reboot now
[15:36] <erUSUL> saturdayplace: can you post your /etc/networking/interfaces ?? maybe is the dhcp server ?
[15:36] <donita_> wish me luck
[15:36] <erUSUL> !root | sporedi
[15:36] <Spixx> donita_: you do not login with root you use sudo
[15:37] <erUSUL> sporedi: log in with the username you gave during install. use sudo for admin tasks
[15:37] <ares623> trijntje, thanks. is there  a way to find out what the * in sda* is?
[15:37] <trijntje> ares623, sudo fdisk -l
[15:38] <Spixx> bootable partition? :S
[15:38] <saturdayplace> m4rtin: here's my /etc/network/interfaces: http://dpaste.com/127508/
[15:38] <sporedi> at # i suppose to use sudo and package name to install
[15:38] <sporedi> how do get gui
[15:38] <saturdayplace> also erUSUL: http://dpaste.com/127508/
[15:38] <Spixx> sporedi: sudo apt-get install gnome
[15:38] <Spixx> not sure if you need to configure x to autostart though. but when installed run startx
[15:39] <jadakren> Spixx: does startx actually still work ? i always use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[15:40] <coldboot> jadakren, yes
[15:40] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: yes, that does look correct... have you restarted networking since making the changes?
[15:40] <Spixx> ah, might be :P they changed that in 9.04 I think
[15:40] <ares623> trijntje, thanks! got it.
[15:40] <erUSUL> saturdayplace: is --> netmask 255.255.255.0  || but anyway i do not see why this could cause the interface to change ip by itself ...
[15:40] <sporedi> its giveing error not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:41] <erUSUL> saturdayplace: any message in the logs ?
[15:41] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: except for the last line netmask 255.255.255.
[15:41] <sporedi> unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[15:41] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: needs a "0" at the end
[15:41] <saturdayplace> m4rtin: Oh that paste just left off the lat 0.  I've restarted. networking  Thing is, it just resets after some time.  Don't know why.
[15:42] <saturdayplace> erUSUL: not sure what logs to check.
[15:42] <Reinz> hello
[15:42] <erUSUL> saturdayplace: /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog ?
[15:42] <om26er> !hello | Reinz
[15:42] <mahngiel> good day all. i'm having a WM issue. i have multiple installed, but no session selection for Metacity. How do i make it default? or load without terminal?
[15:42] <saturdayplace> erUSUL: thanks, I'll check.
[15:42] <Reinz> Can you help me please?
[15:42] <mahngiel> !just let the guy say hi
[15:42] <erUSUL> !ask | Reinz
[15:43] <Reinz> My friend,  I need your help, please rigister at this link: http://vk.com/reg5432221  This is social network like facebook. You will help me very much, thanks!!!
[15:43] <privatix> In ubuntu server i cannot get the ' icon on my keyboard it gives me this ` instead howto get ' icon sounds silly?
[15:43] <mahngiel> !troll | Reinz
[15:44] <LjL> Reinz: please don't spam
[15:45] <mahngiel> sorry, was having window problems. not sure if there was a response
[15:45] <saturdayplace> m4rtin, erUSUL: nothing obvious in the logs.
[15:45] <albech> what is it that cause some terminals to print
[15:45] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: check for anything referencing eth0 (or DHCP)
[15:45] <albech> what is it that cause some terminals to print 'A' when using up arrow in vim?
[15:46] <albech> if you are in edit mode
[15:46] <privatix> erUSUL:well you have been aroundawhilesincebrezzy badgerdays!
[15:46] <mahngiel> how can i get Metacity to autoload upon boot up of GNOME session?
[15:46] <erUSUL> privatix: yep i've been ;)
[15:47] <saturdayplace> m4rtin: nothing.  I'm done sudo apt-get remove dhcp-client to be sure we're not getting a dynamic address from somewhere.
[15:48] <privatix> erUSUL: howto get the ' key to work it gives me` this instead?
[15:48] <donita> hahahaha!!! yeah~~ it works!!!!
[15:48] <donita> God!! you guys are genius
[15:48] <muva> ciao
[15:49] <erUSUL> privatix: depends on the keyboard type i guess. mine is in ?' key next to 0
[15:49] <donita> thank you all
[15:49] <pandepande> hola a todos en sala
[15:49] <erUSUL> !es | pandepande
[15:50] <donita> HI~~ Are you there?
[15:50] <jongbergs> donita: :)
[15:50] <donita> so the secret is grub update?
[15:51] <donita> is it in the documentatinon too? wherer?
[15:51] <subito> what can i do to know when i receive a mail on gmail?
[15:51] <privatix> erUSUL:strangeI had acdinstall ofthedebian testing worked there and here also
[15:51] <bhuvi>  /msg NickServ identify vgynjib567
[15:51] <erUSUL> privatix: make sure you have the correct kb settings in System>Preferences>Keyboard
[15:51] <m4rtin> bhuvi: you'd better change your nickserv pass; that just went to channel
[15:51] <erUSUL> bhuvi: change your password
[15:52] <donita> jongbergs and all, I really want to know, what does that mean in boot menu it's like "Windows 7 (Loader)... <---what does that mean "Loader"???
[15:52] <privatix> itsaserver no X
[15:52] <m4rtin> saturdayplace: hmmm, I'm not sure; I'd recommend trying to find when it happens (how long after interface comes up) and see if you can find a trigger (or a log entry near that time)
[15:52] <AmokPaule> For a creative xifi do i need the creative drivers?
[15:52] <saturdayplace> m4rtin: thanks.
[15:52] <saturdayplace> will do
[15:53] <donita> Does that mean the "first sector" is on windows 7 area???
[15:53] <privatix> erUSUL:its aserver no X
[15:53] <erUSUL> donita: windwos has its own boot loader just like linux grub
[15:53] <trism> subito: there are several applications in the repos, gmail-notify, checkgmail just to name a few...you should try them and see what works for you
[15:53] <donita> Do you guys want to see the picture I just took?
[15:53] <donita> Please wait here, erUSUL... wait
[15:54] <erUSUL> privatix: try « sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup »
[15:55] <AlexJones> Which version of VMWare server do I need for Ubuntu 64 bit? VMware Server 2 for Linux Operating Systems or The core application needed to run VMware Server 2, 64-bit version?
[15:55] <Roasted> How come my XP laptop here can have 1 bar of signal and ping at 1ms to the server yet my Ubuntu laptop here has 3 bars and pings between 50 and 900?
[15:55] <privatix> erUSUL:  ok i will try i will let you know
[15:55] <privatix>  thanks
[15:55] <erUSUL> privatix: no problem
[15:55] <sporedi> how do i check that my server 9.10 in install correctly
[15:56] <subito> thanks trism
[15:57] <jongbergs> donita: win 7 also has its own boot loader to load othe operating systems preferably previous version of windows
[15:57] <ibuclaw> donita, on the question you asked earlier: afaik, that 1MB is for nothing really - other than possibly a safety buffer of empty space between two filesystems... which makes no sense to me ;)
[15:58] <jongbergs> AlexJones: i recommend using virtualbox instead of vmware
[15:58] <jongbergs> AlexJones: you can install it, it's available in the repos
[15:59] <mahngiel> last time i'll ask before i post of the forums: I have multiple Win Mgrs installed, and have a session selection for each - except Metacity.  I am trying to find out how to get Metacity to auto load on the default session 'GNOME' without having to use the terminal
[15:59] <donita> jongbergs and ibuclaw, nope! you don't get what I asked, I partition the HDD in purpose to avoid Windows 7 to add another partition which is normally 100MB itself(Primary I think)
[15:59] <Oilut> hi! i have a .toc file with lots of .wav and want to write it on a CD but on .mp3 format. how do i do it?
[16:00] <dassouki> how do  i check the usbpermissions ?
[16:00] <ibuclaw> donita, oh, that must be the system folder for self recovery.
[16:00] <mahngiel> dassouki: lsusb -l
[16:00] <donita> so I tried to partition the HDD first by making them 3 Primary + 1 Extended, so that windows 7 won't be able to ADD MORE stupid partition which could limit my whole space
[16:00] <dassouki> mahngiel: thanks
[16:00] <Lucho_> Need some help making to work a serial mouse on ubuntu 9.10
[16:00] <bdfoster_iPhone_> heyoh
[16:00] <mahngiel> dassouki: np
[16:00] <AlexJones> jongbergs, I already have many virtual machines from vmware.
[16:00] <Lucho_> may some one help me?
[16:00] <mahngiel> Lucho_: depends on your issue :)
[16:01] <dassouki> mahngiel: no such thing as -l ... -v perhaps ?
[16:01] <bdfoster_iPhone_> Lucho_: do you mean ps2?
[16:01] <Shwack> I can't take it anymore - Why can Ubuntu only print at 1 page per 20 minutes??
[16:01] <Lucho_> mahngiel it is simple, I can not find the xorg.conf archive
[16:01] <ibuclaw> donita, tbh, the windows installer works for the best intent of Windows - and no other system.
[16:01] <Lucho_> bdfoster_iPhone_ no, serial mouse
[16:01] <mahngiel> dassouki: -l as in lowercase L
[16:01] <donita> jongbergs and ibuclaw, so I can decide later to change my free space in Extended Partition, do you get me?
[16:02] <mahngiel> Lucho_: i don't know anything about that, sorry
[16:02] <Lucho_> mahngiel thanks
[16:02] <ibuclaw> donita, you can freely extend/truncate the extended partition - yes.
[16:02] <Shwack> Everytime i want to print something, I have to go to sleep and wait till morning before the 10-15 pages print
[16:02] <trism> mahngiel: is the key in gconf /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager set to metacity?
[16:02] <ibuclaw> donita, and you can also create a (supposedly) unlimited number of partitions within that extended partition.
[16:03] <donita> Because old msdos partition can only accept 3 Primary + 1 Extended + unlimit Logic Partition OR 4 Primary Partitions
[16:03] <jongbergs> donita: absolutely, use gparted to do that for you
[16:03] <donita> Logical Partition
[16:03] <untitled> please, tell me about software updates in ubuntu
[16:03] <untitled> between releases
[16:03] <mahngiel> trism: i'll look and find out. should i open it with gedit or use another app?
[16:03] <trism> mahngiel: gconf-editor
[16:04] <ibuclaw> untitled, you mean system upgrades?
[16:04] <donita> where can I upload my pics so I can ask question?
[16:04] <untitled> ibuclaw: what I mean is why there is no updates for packages in ubuntu? to update pidgin or ooffice, I have to add some ppas
[16:05] <donita> Any free link to upload my pics?
[16:05] <untitled> donita: imageshack
[16:05] <ranjan> Is there an app. that you can save a webpage and all the content... AND the content of the links? please help
[16:05] <donita> imageshack? where?
[16:05] <untitled> donita: google
[16:05] <donita> ok
[16:05] <ranjan> Is there an app. that you can save a webpage and all the content... AND the content of the links? please help
[16:05] <jongbergs> donita: you can use http://imagebin.ca
[16:05] <mahngiel> trism: thank you. i changed the value to metacity instead of e16. but what bothers me is that NO win mgr started up on boot
[16:06] <ibuclaw> untitled, all software for ubuntu is maintained in repositories. These repositories remain relatively stable - only updates for security or major bugs are updated/released.
[16:06] <jongbergs> donita: it's basically the counterpart with pastebin for posting text files
[16:06] <trism> mahngiel: strange, hopefully that fixes it
[16:06] <Oilut> hi! i have a .toc file with lots of .wav and want to write it on a CD but on .mp3 format. how do i do it?
[16:06] <mahngiel> trism: i'll relog and let you know.
[16:06] <Doonz> How do i format a drive with ext3 using 4Kib block sizes?
[16:06] <untitled> ibuclaw: oh, ok, and they update packages only when new release comes out?
[16:06] <donita> Choose a plugin for media type application /x-shockwave-flash : there are 3 options, which should I choose?
[16:06] <untitled> so uncool :)
[16:06] <ibuclaw> untitled, this means that once ubuntu has been released, the version numbers of the software generally stay the same.
[16:07] <untitled> ok
[16:07] <donita> 1 .Adobe Flash Player (Installer) 2. Swfdec SWF player 3. Gnash SWF Player
[16:07] <untitled> thanks
[16:07] <donita> Which one?
[16:07] <adac> any ides why amarok does not play mp3s? I cannot even add them to the playlist
[16:07] <ibuclaw> untitled, if a new release comes out - it is rare to see it appear in the main repositories.
[16:07] <mahngiel> trism: thank you very much. you don't know the hell that caused me yesterday
[16:07] <jrib> donita: do you care about not using proprietary, closed source software?
[16:07] <ibuclaw> untitled, we had this with Firefox a while back ... 3.5 was out but everyone was still on 3.1
[16:08] <donita> jongbergs.. which one?
[16:08] <jongbergs> donita: choose 1
[16:08] <jongbergs> donita: choose 1
[16:08] <sigius> Q: When installing some package, how can I tell apt-get to also install 'suggested' packages ??
[16:08] <donita> ok, thanks
[16:08] <sporedi> how do i start irc chat on server i am facing some problem with installtion
[16:08] <cryptk> is anyone here that can help me with a weird network bandwidth problem?
[16:08] <donita> jrib, what do you mean?
[16:08] <sporedi> unable to get install any package
[16:08] <trism> mahngiel: glad I could help
[16:08] <donita> jrib, what do you mean? What if I choose proprietary, what will happen?
[16:08] <Roasted> How come my XP laptop here can have 1 bar of signal and ping at 1ms to the server yet my Ubuntu laptop here has 3 bars and pings between 50 and 900?
[16:08] <donita> law things or...?
[16:08] <jrib> donita: adobe's flash player is proprietary and closed source.  That means only adobe can develop it and fix bugs
[16:09] <ibuclaw> untitled, if a new software release has been made upstream - if you want it on your system, you either have to install a ppa maintained package - or wait until the next release of Ubuntu.
[16:09] <untitled> ibuclaw: you know some deb-based distro with gentoo-like updates? where you can update a package as soon as it comes out
[16:09] <thiebaude> donita, nothing will happen
[16:09] <donita> jrib..... I see, so you'd suggest that I choose the other 2?
[16:09] <ibuclaw> untitled, Ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution
[16:09] <jrib> donita: no, I'd suggest you choose 1) unless you care about that
[16:09] <untitled> i got that
[16:09] <cryptk> is anyone here that can help me with a weird network bandwidth problem? ubuntu is going quite slow and none of the things have read on the internet describe or fix my problem...
[16:10] <mahngiel> cryptk: have you updated recently?
[16:10] <quiescens> for the record: rt73usb driver is a pain in the neck
[16:10] <donita> well, I do care about people and humang rights and lots of issue... will that affect my faith choosing one?
[16:10] <ibuclaw> untitled, if a package is available on the official site of the software (ie: virtual box) then by all means use that instead of the ppa
[16:10] <cryptk> mahngiel, yes, all of ym packages are up to date
[16:10] <wvalencia> hi, i have installed karmic koala, but in the boot shows this error: ubuntu starting init crypto disks
[16:10] <DrRobino> How do i copy a file from a local place to a server place?
[16:10] <donita> issues
[16:10] <mahngiel> cp [file path] [new path]
[16:10] <untitled> ibuclaw: ok, thanks for the info
[16:10] <jrib> donita: 2) and 3) won't be able to play all flash as well as 1) does, but 2) and 3) are free software in the sense that anyone can grab the source and edit it.  That's why they exist
[16:11] <dassouki> how can i check for a usb drive permisssions
[16:11] <sporedi> how do i start ssh server on server
[16:11] <jrib> sporedi: install it
[16:11] <bibekp>  i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400. here is what the log says: http://pastie.org/721777 I purged and reinstalled ntfs-3g but the problem continues
[16:11] <bhuvi> my cpu fan speed is not detected in karmic but worked well in hardy anybody can help
[16:11] <donita> jrib... ok I got it now... okay...
[16:11] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[16:11] <bibekp> spoilt, if it is installed, start it with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[16:11] <sporedi> done
[16:12] <sporedi> thx
[16:12] <bibekp> sorry, it was for sporedi
[16:12] <sporedi> can some one pls tell me why i am not able to install any package ,what do i to run after a fresh install
[16:12] <jrib> sporedi: pastebin
[16:12] <kubanc> anybody knows why open office impress 3.1 doesn't wanna play movie files (.avi) ?
[16:13] <donita> you know, you people are friendly here better than Linux Mint, they suck, they kicked me out and ban my IP, I was saying that the name "mint" is actually poison, they got piss off and kicked me out and banned me, shame on them. I wasn't saying mint OS, I was saying mint itself in real world.
[16:13] <iceroot> sporedi: apt-get update
[16:13] <iceroot> donita: watch your language please :)
[16:13] <jrib> donita: most support channels (including this one) prefer that you discuss only support issues
[16:13] <DrRobino> mahngiel: I did cp Explorative_Analysis.m hms1/bdi/asd.m but it said no such file or directory. I know hms1 is a server because i can do ssh hms1
[16:14] <mahngiel> DrRobino: are you in the directory holding the file?
[16:14] <donita> okay... iceroot and jrib...
[16:14] <cryptk> is anyone here that can help me with a weird network bandwidth problem? Ubuntu is going quite slow and none of the things have read on the Internet describe or fix my problem... I am running Karmic
[16:14] <DrRobino> mahngiel: yes
[16:14] <Shwack> please somebody help me - Printing on my Brother MFC 7820N on linux 9.10 fresh install takes 10-20 minuts per page
[16:14] <sporedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332427/
[16:14] <sporedi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332427/
[16:14] <bibekp> donita, yes, dont flame here
[16:14] <sporedi> sorry
[16:14] <mahngiel> !print | Shwack
[16:15] <nibbler> hi. i just upgraded to 9.10. i start rhythmbox, and it cant find any of my mp3s on my network share (smb). funny thing is, i was able to play any of my mp3s with rhythmbox, while watching it remove one-by-one of my songs from the "inventory", everytime it hit one of the songs i was just playing it stopped playback, continued with the next one until this was gone, too etc. any solution to this?
[16:15] <donita> bibekp..... okay......
[16:15] <bibekp> I am sorry for repeating this: i have problem mounting a NTFS partition into my Ubuntu partition. I am using Ubuntu 9.04, and Thinkpad T400. here is what the log says: http://pastie.org/721777 I purged and reinstalled ntfs-3g but the problem continues
[16:15] <DrRobino> mahngiel: If i just do cp Explorative_Analysis.m hms1 I think it works ok, but i have no idea where the file ends up
[16:15] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth headset stopped showing up in the sound preferences, though it is still connected in bluetooth manager. any ideas?
[16:15] <sipior> Shwack: what sort of files are you printing? how were they generated? and what size?
[16:15] <donita> ok now, the jpg file I am going to upload is about 534.9KB, how am I gonna shrink it?
[16:15] <mahngiel> DrRobino: it would end up in the /hms1 folder
[16:16] <bibekp> donita, do you know imagemagick ?
[16:16] <DrRobino> mahngiel: But if i do cd hms1 it says not a directory
[16:16] <mahngiel> DrRobino: /hms1 ?
[16:16] <nibbler> bibekp, thats not good. try to fix the ntfs before mountig it, maybe its broken? there is some packages there with ubuntu for that, cant remember the name
[16:16] <donita> nope, where is imagemagick?
[16:16] <DrRobino> mahngiel: same
[16:16] <donita> bibekp, where?
[16:16] <dassouki> how can i change permissions on usb devices from root to my user ?
[16:16] <DrRobino> mahngiel: hms1 is the name of a server
[16:16] <jrib> dassouki: what filesystem?
[16:16] <jrib> !software > donita
[16:16] <iceroot> donita: imagemagick is not a program, is a distribution of many littel programs
[16:17] <bhuvi> my cpu fan speed is not detected in karmic but worked well in hardy anybody can help
[16:17] <bibekp> donita, you can do things with images using imagemagick. if you dont know that, use gimp to reduce the size of the picture
[16:17] <Roasted> How come my XP laptop here can have 1 bar of signal and ping at 1ms to the server yet my Ubuntu laptop here has 3 bars and pings between 50 and 900?
[16:17] <mahngiel> DrRobino: then you've gone beyond my knowledge. sorry
[16:17] <Shwack> sipior: it looks like the link provided mahngiel has a specific link for my pritner -thank you both very much
[16:17] <bibekp> nibbler, would appreciate if you told me the name. it wasnt a problem earlier. i can mount other partitions alright, but have issues with mounting one particular pratition
[16:17] <AlexJones> I am getting the following error when trying to install VMware server 64bit on Ubuntu 9.10: http://pastebin.ca/1696641 What is the problem?
[16:17] <mahngiel> Shwack: glad to help
[16:17] <jongbergs> bibekp: how did you mount the ntfs partitions?
[16:17] <donita> jrib ubttu iceroot bibekp......... so.....
[16:17] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[16:17] <sporedi> thx ,i am able to login to ssh to my ubuntu server and i am able to login to normal user now ,to install packages do i require root privileges (root)
[16:18] <DrRobino> can anyone recommend a file copying system with GUI that can connect to other directories than local ones?
[16:18] <bibekp> jongbergs, mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/temp
[16:18] <bibekp> donita, use gimp
[16:18] <donita> jrib ubttu iceroot bibekp......... so..... imagemagick, a command in terminal?
[16:18] <jrib> DrRobino: nautilus?
[16:18] <dtownhero> DrRobino, samba?
[16:18] <dassouki> jrib: whatever was default, so i assume fat 32 ?
[16:18] <bibekp> spoilt, yes, you need to sudo to install
[16:18] <donita> gimp, what's that?\
[16:18] <jrib> !vfat | dassouki
[16:18] <thiebaude> !gimp
[16:18] <cryptk> is anyone here that can help me with a weird network bandwidth problem? Ubuntu is going quite slow and none of the things have read on the Internet describe or fix my problem... I am running Karmic
[16:18] <jongbergs> bibekp: try this instead: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/temp
[16:18] <bibekp> !gimp | donita
[16:19] <donita> bibekp ubottu, ok.. I found it
[16:19] <Lord-Readman> Brainstormers please vote http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22712/
[16:19] <dassouki> jrib: i'm accessing a dongle
[16:19] <sporedi> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ----------(next line)---E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/-----(last line)-----E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:19] <bibekp> jongbergs, same error
[16:19] <jrib> dassouki: that's fine
[16:19] <nibbler> bibekp, aptitude search ntfs -> ntfsprogs -> ntfsfix
[16:20] <jrib> dassouki: usually it just sets ownership to the current user when you plug it in, but if you are having issues just setup fstab
[16:20] <donita> please tell me how to shrink the pic, I am now in ImageShack
[16:20] <bhuvi> when i right-click on a pendrive in karmic i get three options unmount eject safely remove what does this mean
[16:20] <bibekp> nibbler, can't find ntfsfix.
[16:20] <bibekp> nibbler, but i can mount other partitions well (ntfs)
[16:20] <donita> Save as ... or???
[16:20] <nibbler> bibekp, its in the ntfsprogs package
[16:20] <bibekp> donita, scale the image to a lower resolution
[16:21] <bibekp> nibbler, ntfsprogs is installed
[16:21] <bibekp> nibbler, i have used ntfsfix command but it segfaults too
[16:21] <nibbler> bibekp, then try to fix it with a windows-boot/rescue cd or smth. i'd say its heavily damaged
[16:21] <bowenl2> how can i use ubuntu with my vt-220?  is support for serial terminals compiled in by default?
[16:21] <bibekp> nibbler, it says: Dec  1 22:06:24 yantra kernel: [67417.797901] ntfsfix[19297]: segfault at bf40afd0 ip b7db7a4c sp bf40afd4 error 6 in libc-2.9.so[b7d46000+15c000]
[16:22] <dassouki> jrib: http://pastie.org/721922
[16:22] <frostburn> has the weather functionality of the Clock applet stop working for others?
[16:22] <bibekp> nibbler, i dont have windows in my computer. what might have caused the damage? or is it a bug in ntfs-3g ? my computer is a new thinkpad T400
[16:22] <jongbergs> bibekp: is /dev/sda2 really an nfts partition?
[16:22] <bibekp> jongbergs, yes it is. i have accessed many times before
[16:22] <jrib> dassouki: I presume sda is not your flash drive
[16:22] <nibbler> bibekp, if its new, then mkfs.ext4 the partition ;-)
[16:23] <dassouki> jrib: it's a flash drive, it's a dongle chip
[16:23] <bibekp> nibbler, i said the computer is new
[16:23] <sipior> bowenl2: it should be enabled by default, yes.
[16:23] <jrib> dassouki: but it isn't sda, correct?
[16:23] <sipior> bowenl2: btw, where did you find a vt220? :-)
[16:23] <dassouki> jrib: correct
[16:23] <bowenl2> closet
[16:23] <jrib> dassouki: I guess my question is, why did you pastebin that?
[16:23] <bowenl2> is this just something i edit in my grub.conf? or do i have to do something else?
[16:24] <jongbergs> bibekp: can you post the output of fdisk -l
[16:24] <bibekp> jongbergs, nibbler, should i or should not i carry my notebook while on SLEEP in ubuntu 9.04. If anything, the only reason i think the partition would be damaged is because i used to carry my laptop in sleep mode and i've heard problems with linux sleep and hibernate. else, the other reason i can think is a bug in ntfs-3g
[16:24] <nibbler> bibekp, ntfs is a ms fs, which specs were never released. so all drivers are reverse engeneered etc. if it gets broken and linuxtools cant help you, your last chance is the tools of ms (chkdisk etc)
[16:24] <dassouki> jrib: you asked what file system i was using
[16:24] <bibekp> jongbergs, sure. in pastebin or here ?
[16:24] <sipior> bowenl2: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[16:24] <jongbergs> bibekp: pastebin
[16:25] <nibbler> bibekp, no, sleep mode is like switch-off harddisk-wise
[16:25] <jrib> dassouki: on the dongle
[16:25] <bibekp> nibbler, does it work fine in ubuntu 9.04?
[16:25] <bibekp> nibbler, should i be worrying about carrying my laptop in sleep mode or not ?
[16:25] <harovali1> hi, how do I refresh the console after doing a chenge in console-setup ? I mean, how do I actually see the changes in the console without rebooting ?
[16:25] <harovali1> *change
[16:25] <nibbler> bibekp, it shuold work fine in 9.04. dont worry, carry it in sleep-mode (harddisk is spun down then)
[16:26] <dassouki> jrib: i doubt there is a file system
[16:26] <ibuclaw> harovali1, what change did you make?
[16:26] <nibbler> bibekp, also, if you dont have windows, why do u use  ntfs?
[16:26] <bibekp> nibbler, cool
[16:26] <jrib> dassouki: what do you mean by usb dongle?
[16:26] <tgm4883> Is there a way to disable Non-eXecutable (NX) memory protection?
[16:26] <harovali1> ibuclaw: the console font, and the console font size
[16:26] <bowenl2> sipior: on this line, "/etc/init/ttyS0.conf" => should that be init.d instead of init?
[16:26] <ibuclaw> harovali1, in gnome-terminal - or the system tty?
[16:26] <harovali1> ibuclaw: system tty
[16:26] <bibekp> nibbler, ok, thats a long story now. my computer came with windows, but i corrupted while installing linux (resized and moved partitions from a live CD, i didnt know windows couldnt tolerate that)
[16:26] <donita> okay!! here!! http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7051/dsc02724small.jpg
[16:27] <bibekp> nibbler, windows partitions are there, but they dont boot
[16:27] <sipior> bowenl2: nope.
[16:27] <donita> a little harsh to use scale
[16:27] <bibekp> nibbler, jongbergs its a pity that a fine machine like thinkpad has to be shipped with windows (that too Vista)
[16:27] <jrib> dassouki: I saw you say "how can I check for a usb drive permissions" so I presumed it was something similar to a flash drive.  Now I think you mean something else
[16:27] <donita> here are my 2 questions about the link
[16:28] <dassouki> jrib: it's a chip to access software. i use it with virtualbox .. but with 9.10, all my permissions to usb drives have moved from user_name to root
[16:28] <ibuclaw> harovali1, I think it is:  sudo service console-setup restart
[16:28] <nibbler> bibekp, if you dont use windows, i'd suggest you to move all data to linux partitions and reformat the then unused ntfs to some linux fs aswell. just to avoid your current problem in the future
[16:28] <bibekp> nibbler, jongbergs here it is: http://pastebin.org/59267
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> bowenl2:  no. init is the new stuff where some configs are at.
[16:28] <dassouki> jrib: my message said how can i change .. not check
[16:28] <bibekp> nibbler, i'd move all data only if i could access it :)
[16:28] <jrib> dassouki: correct
[16:28] <root> Hey everybody
[16:28] <jrib> dassouki: anyway, this is something that gets mounted with data on it, right?
[16:29] <bibekp> nibbler, the reason i am looking forward to install windows again in this machine is : battery performance in linux is far below par (only 2.5 hours) while in windows it gives me about 9 hours
[16:29] <dassouki> jrib:
[16:29] <donita> 1. I once accidentally click the wrong option (recovery one) then everything is in mess, I couldn't boot up anymore. 2. What does the (Loader ) mean???
[16:29] <dassouki> jrib: no
[16:29] <Esya> Uh... I need some help configuring my vpn :S.
[16:29] <nibbler> bibekp, sorry, i have no further help to offer to you.... if the tools dont work, i'm lost.
[16:29] <dassouki> i just want to change my permissions on my usb devices from root to my name
[16:29] <bowenl2> Dr_Willis: when I do that it says "start: Unknown job: ttyS0"
[16:29] <Esya> Did someone test pptp ?
[16:29] <dassouki> or allow my user to conenct to usb
[16:29] <bibekp> nibbler, i live in a place where there are more than 10 hours of powercut in dry season
[16:29] <jrib> dassouki: your question makes no sense to me
[16:29] <bibekp> nibbler, hmm. do you know any thinkpad+linux support IRC channels ?
[16:29] <Esya> I have a dedicated server and I'd like to use it as a vpn server
[16:29] <nibbler> bibekp, you use cpu governor and this disk-spindown thing?
[16:30] <bibekp> nibbler, no. i havent heard of them. what are they?
[16:30] <przemo_one> hi guys
[16:30] <dassouki> jrib: here's an ls -l on a usb device crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 130 2009-11-30 16:29 /dev/bus/usb/002/003
[16:30] <bowenl2> sipior: any idea why start says unknown job: ttyS0 when i follow those instructions?
[16:30] <jongbergs> bibekp: it appears ok based on the structure of the partitions, would you care booting from the live cd of ubuntu 9.10 and try mounting your ntfs partitions there?
[16:30] <Esya> Hmm... If I give you my vpn server's adress, could at least someone tell me if it does respond ?
[16:30] <generic> So how do I get ssh working on ubunut? Im registered at dyndns.org, I set up ddclient, I have sshd: ALL in my hosts.allow file. I Also have to port forwarded to my computer. Why can't I get it working?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> bowenl2:  no idea what you are trying to do.    the /etc/init directory has  the files for what upstart starts up.
[16:30] <jrib> dassouki: hal is responsible for that.  You can read about hal fdi files and writing udev permissions I guess
[16:30] <bibekp> jongbergs, i have tried that already. doesnt work
[16:31] <bibekp> jongbergs, i cant format that partition as well (in present condition)
[16:31] <harovali1> ibuclaw: thanks
[16:31] <nibbler> bibekp, the one makes sure your cpu is not running full speed when its idle anyway, and the otherone i forgotabout the name, changes the diskscheduler, so that it does not keep the disk running all the time. should be findable by looking for linux+laptop etc
[16:31] <Esya> Okayyyy...
[16:31] <donita> First, I thought sda1 is the first hard drive (because I partition HDD it first with FAT32 to make sure the windows 7 would use it so it would keep quiet not asking me to be the first drive) but now I think the first drive doesn't really mean the first sector which BIOS will looking for to read, am I right?
[16:31] <dassouki> jrib: thanks
[16:31] <ibuclaw> harovali1, I take it that it worked then?
[16:31] <bibekp> nibbler, ok. cpu governor and disk-spindown? thanks
[16:31] <ibuclaw> if so, I'll make a note of it ;)
[16:32] <sipior> bowenl2: you're running karmic, or?
[16:32] <bhuvi> bibekp:initially reported time will not be accurate in linux but as time goes ot will become accurate but actual time will be the same for both linux and windows you can check it
[16:32] <harovali1> ibuclaw: no, I was just thanking you :-)    You know, it seems I'm having trouble in setting the console size font...
[16:32] <donita> so.... in order, even if I partition the HDD with 1/4 area to be FAT32, it is not a guarantee the first partition will be the truly the FIRST driver which BIOS will looking for, am I right?
[16:32] <bowenl2> sipior:jaunty
[16:32] <jongbergs> bibekp: how about sda3, same problem?
[16:32] <bibekp> bhuvi, but my computer shuts down after the said time passes :)
[16:33] <bowenl2> oh whoops! wrong computer haha
[16:33] <bibekp> bhuvi, 2.5 hours is no comparision with 9 hours even by reporting faults :)
[16:33] <bibekp> jongbergs, no problems with sda1 and 3
[16:34] <frikker> I have a macbook (2,1) core 2 duo.  When I upgraded to 9.10 it broke my brightness control.  My brightness icon in the dock has a red "x" through it indicating it is disabled.  how can I fix this? I feel like it is a driver issue, as comiz is also broken and my video feels a bit laggy (meaning those drivers may have stopped working as well).
[16:34] <kubanc> can someone help me. i have a problem playing videos in Open Office 3.1?
[16:34] <mutew> Is there a way to assign multiple keybindings to a command in the gconf-editor?
[16:34] <donita> I mean, the 3 OSs have their boot loaders, but what is the crucial file placed to trickle the boot loaders? Where is it??? How do I know where the First drive is after I partition 4 areas.
[16:34] <phil__> hey, does anyone know of a solution on how to manage active directory from a ubuntu machine?
[16:34] <jongbergs> bibekp: then there is nothing wrong with nfts utils that comes with ubuntu..
[16:35] <bhuvi> bibekp, i think you try installing powertop and check where your problem lies
[16:35] <frikker> kubanc, I had no idea you could play videos in OO.  Do you mean embedded stuff in the presentation?
[16:35] <jongbergs> bibekp: the problem boils down on that particular partition
[16:35] <frikker> donita, what do you mean?
[16:35] <donita> Anyone would like to teach me that?
[16:35] <bendj_> Hi.  Anyone here use dvd::rip?  I'd like to know which VideoCodec & VideoCodec-QuantType should be used if the (eventual) target is to burn to a standalone DVD disk ... unclear 2 me.
[16:35] <kubanc> frikker, yes i would like to put video in presentation (openOffice impress)
[16:35] <Esya> So nobody can help me about a vpn server ?
[16:35] <donita> I mean, you guys say every OS has its own boot loader, right?
[16:35] <ibuclaw> harovali1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[16:35] <ibuclaw> harovali1, source here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4943115&postcount=7
[16:36] <bibekp> jongbergs, ok. i will try to find a similar computer, put the hard disk there and try to repair it from windows. what do you say?
[16:36] <jongbergs> donita: try gpated to give you a graphical view
[16:36] <harovali1> ibuclaw: thanks again
[16:36] <jongbergs> donita: i mean gparted
[16:36] <przemo_one> donita in general no
[16:36] <Esya> Does someone know a SIMPLE WAY to have a VPN server running on my dedicated server ?
[16:36] <frikker> donita: you probably use GRUB which can boot most OSs
[16:37] <donita> so I became unable to see my Menu at first is because windows 7 wrote over my Ubuntu boot-related files, so... this small sector must be very important, I want to know where is it?
[16:37] <bibekp> bhuvi, i have powertop installed. how do i detect a problem?
[16:37] <frikker> donita, are you asking about how to write a boot loader?
[16:37] <przemo_one> donita or lilo
[16:37] <ManDay> I want to install the GTK engine Clearlooks, there is one in the repos, but its marked as "virtual" and I cannot install it - whats this?!
[16:37] <jongbergs> bibekp: that could be a straight forward approach..maybe windows chkdsk can help..
[16:37] <ahmad_> hello
[16:37] <frikker> donita, look into booting a live CD (ubuntu) and re-installing GRUB
[16:37] <przemo_one> donita old problem
[16:37] <bibekp> jongbergs, ok, that is what i've been thinking of. but i thought of asking here first
[16:37] <sipior> Esya: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN, to start
[16:37] <przemo_one> donita i have different way of restoring grub
[16:37] <ibuclaw> ManDay, GTK Clearlooks is provided by another package
[16:37] <Esya> sipior: Already read that
[16:37] <bibekp> jongbergs, do you know any linux+thinkpad support channels on IRC ?
[16:37] <Esya> sipior: The problem is that I got a pptpd server runinng on my dedicated server
[16:38] <ManDay> ibuclaw, so why is it listed in aptitude then? whats that for?
[16:38] <Esya> sipior: But it does not respond and uh, I don't really know how to configure remoteip and localip
[16:38] <sipior> Esya: another option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[16:38] <madcheeze_> has anyone used cairo dock on 9.10 and had any luck? it was crashing my netbook...
[16:38] <donita> nope, I didn't want to learn how to write a boot loader, I just want to know, where is the boot sector? in my case, 4 partitions, where is it?
[16:38] <phil__> hey, does anyone know of a solution on how to manage active directory from a ubuntu machine?
[16:38] <MaXlMuS> hello guys
[16:38] <jongbergs> bibekp: no idea about it..but you may try searching lenovo channel instead
[16:38] <erUSUL> donita: in the mbr (master boot record)
[16:38] <Esya> sipI'm gonna look
[16:38] <bibekp> bhuvi, is it ok if i provide you with the output of powertop command ?
[16:39] <madcheeze_> phil__, use remote desktop
[16:39] <bhuvi> bibekp, if you run powertop it will tell which process prevents cpu from idling and at which power states your cpu lies in etc
[16:39] <ahmad_> iam new user of ubuntu 9.10 i need to drive twinhan1027 sattlaite card  i tried many way to drive this but not work
[16:39] <ibuclaw> ManDay, sometimes several packages have the exact same files... to prevent a conflict - we have "virtual" packages that act as a master package.
[16:39] <bibekp> bhuvi, what do i make out of those information? how do i make my battery work longer?
[16:39] <donita> erUSUL, yes, and where is the MBR placed?
[16:39] <ahmad_> please for your help
[16:39] <subichan> hello, please i need help.. how can I see permissions from the terminal?
[16:39] <MikeChelen> madcheeze_: it works okay for me, do you have 3d accel drivers enabled for your video card?
[16:39] <MikeChelen> subichan: ls -l
[16:39] <erUSUL> donita: first 512 bytes of the hard disk
[16:39] <sipior> Esya: also: http://piano.rcas.sinica.edu.tw/thhsieh/pptpd
[16:39] <luk156> Anybody has the inspiron 13z? I've strange problem with the video driver, the video stop working after switch tu virtal console
[16:39] <bhuvi> bibekp, yes you can post it i will try to examine it
[16:40] <donita> first 512bytes of the hard disk, all right, but you know, GParted's graphic isn't correct
[16:40] <przemo_one> donita mbr is the first sector of your hard drive
[16:40] <luk156> seems to be a proble of refresh
[16:40] <subichan> MikeChelen: thanks man
[16:40] <MaXlMuS> my secndary hard drive died someone has an extra one for sale ? =P
[16:40] <erUSUL> donita: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[16:40] <przemo_one> donita its not a file
[16:40] <Esya> sipior: Hmmm Okay
[16:40] <donita> the leftest partition isn't always the first sector placed, you guys know about this????
[16:40] <madcheeze_> MikeChelen, i dont know... need to investigate it... my card is an ati... and i need to finish the install
[16:40] <Esya> Thanks
[16:40] <phil__> madcheeze_: yeah but at work, therefore a bunch of linux pessimists
[16:40] <erUSUL> donita: the mbr is no t showed in gparted graphic
[16:40] <erUSUL> !who | donita
[16:40] <bibekp> jongbergs, nibbler bhuvi surprise no 2: about a month back, linux reported my battery time (fully charged) as 4.5 hours. suddenly, it started reporting 2.5 hours. and now, each week (or a fortnight), i can see a decrease in reported time. it is 2 hours 20 minutes these days. going by this progression. my computer wil be useless in about a year :)
[16:40] <ManDay> ibuclaw, ah
[16:40] <ManDay> thanks
[16:40] <ibuclaw> ManDay, for example: xsplash-artwork is a virtual package - and it's "child" packages (that provide it) are ubuntu-xsplash-artwork and sability-xsplash-artwork.
[16:41] <ibuclaw> ManDay, but other packages don't depend on the child package - instead they depend on the master.
[16:41] <ahmad_> any help
[16:41] <phil__> madcheeze_: you know the old, linux isn't ready for the pro workplace crap
[16:41] <bhuvi> bibekp, atleast it will give some suggestions to reduce power consumption
[16:41] <ibuclaw> if that makes sense...
[16:41] <ahmad_> please
[16:41] <jongbergs> bibekp: sounds strange..
[16:41] <bibekp> bhuvi, i am pasting it, please wait.
[16:41] <MaXlMuS>  Xubuntu rocks!
[16:41] <madcheeze_> phil__, if you are looking for an mmc snap in, i dont know of one..
[16:41] <donita> ubottu, I was speaking to all of you..... may I???
[16:41] <przemo_one> donita partition is not covering mbr. mbr is for the computer to know how to boot
[16:41] <ManDay> thanks ibuclaw
[16:41] <MikeChelen> madcheeze_: finish the install?
[16:41] <dassouki> jrib: i'm not sure what to do and a bit confused
[16:41] <bibekp> jongbergs, i am a full-time user. but ever since i switched to a laptop, it is giving me nightmares
[16:41] <MikeChelen> !ati | madcheeze_
[16:42] <ManDay> can anyone tell me what package enables fancy mouse gestures for mousepads?
[16:42] <donita> yes, my question is, where is this MBR???
[16:42] <csna172> I have a weird issue with Ubuntu Enterprise Server 9.10. I was testing my server to see how it would react after losing power. Basically making sure that it would automatically reboot and come back up if it were to lose power. After I pulled the power it restarted and came back online as one would expect. However,  now after about 5 mins it drops its internet connection and will not pick it back up unless I restart the machine. A
[16:42] <bibekp> and the problem is, there are no answers for such questions anywhere jongbergs
[16:42] <ManDay> (the apple-like things)
[16:42] <przemo_one> donita by installing windows 7 you overwrited this informatien and now only windows is booting
[16:42] <donita> Is it now at Ubuntu's partition or Windows 7's partitions? or Mint's Partition?
[16:42] <erUSUL> donita: alrady told you *exactly* where it is
[16:42] <donita> Where is this MBR now???
[16:43] <bibekp> bhuvi, here it is: http://pastebin.org/59274
[16:43] <ibuclaw> ManDay, not too sure, but you could try: apt-cache search mouse gestures
[16:43] <ibuclaw> ManDay, to query the packages in the repository
[16:43] <przemo_one> donita you need to do grub reinstallation after fu** windows installation.
[16:43] <phil__> madcheeze_: although nmap and nbtscan can do most of what I need, they would frown
[16:43] <ibuclaw> ManDay, only seems to be a Firefox addon
[16:43] <erUSUL> donita: the mbr does not move it is allways where i told you; are you listening to what i say???
[16:43] <MaXlMuS> Donita:samething happened to me select the same i selected same partition as windows and now it works 2nds install
[16:43] <donita> erUSUL... yes yes, thank you
[16:43] <bibekp> bhuvi, another screenshot: http://pastebin.org/59275
[16:44] <przemo_one> donita it's where it was, but after windows installation it's different now
[16:44] <przemo_one> donita you have to restore grub's information in mbr. mbr is a place on a hard drive. it's allways there
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> donita:  the 'mbr' is the master boot record. the first few bytes of the hard drive that the bios loads/runs to  determine what to boot next.
[16:44] <donita> przemo_one and MaXlMus and all others... yes please explain it to me
[16:44] <erUSUL> donita: the mbr can contain grub or the windows boot loader. windows overwrittes the mbr everytime you install it. so does ubuntu unless told otherwise in advanced options
[16:45] <przemo_one> donita use youre imagination now
[16:45] <ManDay> ibuclaw, im not talkign about firefox mouse gestures. im talking about these apple-gestures (two fingers scroll etc)
[16:45] <przemo_one> donita after bios screen computer must know what to do next right??
[16:45] <exploreralex> how to get a list of channels on irc?
[16:45] <donita> I just wanna know, what are those proccess doing since I don't know what I did, I just know it is back to normal, but I want to know why.
[16:45] <racecar56> i'm using ubuntu 9.10, editra gives me an "ImportError: No module named Editra.launcher" error
[16:45] <przemo_one> donita so it checks the mbr what to do what to execute
[16:45] <ibuclaw> ManDay, oh, I'm pretty sure I saw a two finger scroll option in the Gnome Mouse preferences
[16:45] <ManDay> btw: do I need to install a separate package besides compiz and metacity-common to make gnome remember the maximized state of a window after it got closed?
[16:45] <Pici> exploreralex: /msg alis help list   more help for that available in #freenode
[16:45] <erUSUL> exploreralex: /list but you do not want to do that on a large network such as freenode
[16:45] <ibuclaw> ManDay, System->Preferences->Mouse
[16:45] <inquizikiller> how do i ask for help here?
[16:46] <erUSUL> !ask | inquizikiller
[16:46] <racecar56> inquizikiller: you just did it
[16:46] <przemo_one> donita mbr is the first place to check whats next
[16:46] <racecar56> inquizikiller: just ask the question
[16:46] <exploreralex> thanks
[16:46] <racecar56> exploreralex: hi :D
[16:46] <hylian> hey is there a way to keep the icons on top from moving when the screen resizes for an application?
[16:46] <przemo_one> donita when you install linux it's placing grub or lilo
[16:46] <przemo_one> donita linux loaders
[16:46] <exploreralex> racecar56: i was just gonna say hi
[16:46] <PSYHERMES> help
[16:46] <racecar56> exploreralex: stole the words right from your keyboard xD
[16:46] <bwallen> Are there any USB or Express Card HDMI out adapters that I can use to hook my laptop to my TV for boxee?
[16:46] <bhuvi> bibekp, im looking into it
[16:47] <luk156> The big problem is that don' depends on the driver nv or nvidia, any ideas?
[16:47] <przemo_one> donita windows is not respecting other systems, so after installing that it sets mbr to run only itself
[16:47] <inquizikiller> i need info for 9.10 compatibility rate on packardbell laptop
[16:47] <exploreralex> racecar56: ohhh the "h" and "i" just went missing!!
[16:47] <exploreralex> lolz
[16:47] <racecar56> exploreralex: heehee!
[16:47] <subichan> please, how can I operate on root directories with root permission? cause i got the admin pass but i can't touch some files using the gui
[16:47] <donita> Dr_Willis and erUSUL and przemo_one, please go on, I'm listening
[16:47] <przemo_one> donita so you need to restore grub - linux loader so menu will apear again
[16:47] <bibekp> i have another question too: using madwifi and fglrx drivers gives me a lot of problems. i have deactivated them. but does anybody know why such problems? i use thinkpad t400 (64-bit) with ubuntu 9.04 x86 version. do i have to install the correct version (processor wise)? i have issues with my battery too.
[16:47] <erUSUL> subichan: use sudo
[16:48] <erUSUL> !rootshell | subichan
[16:48] <bibekp> bhuvi, thanks. i will wait
[16:48] <ManDay> Got another problem (context: minimal ubuntu install - i might lack the necessary packages and/or config): According to network-manager-gnome I can establish a connection to a wireless AP but still, nothing works (nothing).
[16:48] <erUSUL> donita: przemo_one is doing a good job at it
[16:48] <inquizikiller> i need info for 9.10 compatibility rate on packardbell laptop "easynote"
[16:48] <subichan> so if i typed sudo -i i would be able to use the gui as i would use the terminal w/sudo?
[16:48] <przemo_one> donita thats it. you must edit it to add windows entry so windows will be on menu as well
[16:49] <erUSUL> subichan: no terminal commands
[16:49] <przemo_one> donita by editing i meen grub's configuration file google for instructions
[16:49] <erUSUL> subichan: what admin task do you need to do by gui ?
[16:49] <donita> Dr_Willis and erUSUL and przemo_one : So.. the MBR will be made after I partition my HDD no matter what the order is? it IS just on the FIRST few KB in the HDD? Would it be beside the first partition or would it be second partition?
[16:49] <katie> hi... I recently upgraded to jaunty and really regret it because visual-python is broken...reading on forums convinced me if i install an older version of python-visual (v. 3.2.9) it should work... but the older version doesn't appear in synaptic.. is there any non-techie-skill-requiring way to get it?
[16:49] <subichan> erUSUL: erase and write files in an internet server directory
[16:49] <bibekp> donita, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file. the file itself is well documented
[16:49] <inquizikiller> i need info for 9.10 compatibility rate on packardbell laptop "easynote"?
[16:50] <bhuvi> bibekp, can you post the output of <cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info>
[16:50] <bibekp> bhuvi, wait
[16:50] <przemo_one> donita partitions do not touch mbr
[16:50] <erUSUL> subichan: and you want to do that with nautilus !? « gksudo nautilus »
[16:50] <kisuke> can someone remind me the diffrence beteween > and >> i can never remember
[16:50] <bastidrazor> !hardware > inquizikiller check this link for your hardware.
[16:50] <trism> kisuke: > overwrites >> appends
[16:50] <exploreralex> racecar56: where to get a the commands for linux terminal and keyboard shortcuts?
[16:50] <subichan> erUSUL: ah thanks.. ok i'm trying that, thank you
[16:50] <king6cong> Can ubuntu9.10 have a better power management than win7?
[16:50] <donita> przemo_one and bibekp and erUSUL, yup, I did it by someone told me to grub???Updat??? some command I forgot... I just want to know what happened and how did they recovery ?
[16:50] <bibekp> king6cong, +1
[16:50] <racecar56> exploreralex: i don't understand...
[16:51] <kisuke> trism: thanks i can never remember which is which
[16:51] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, I just added a computer to my network. All the computers are logging in via libpam-ldap. Now the problem is that on the new computer, users can log in. When typing : ldapsearch -h 10.1.1.xx -x -b dc=xxxx,dc=xx : i get all the users, so where is it going wrong ?
[16:51] <PSYHERMES> king6cong,  y
[16:51] <bibekp> bhuvi, http://pastebin.org/59278
[16:51] <inquizikiller> thnx ubottu
[16:51] <madcheeze_> in karmic, do they have the xorg problems with ati cards? or just jaunty?
[16:51] <inquizikiller> !!!!!
[16:51] <przemo_one> donita this is what i do. i use sysrescue cd. is a linux distribution for system trouble
[16:51] <trism> kisuke: >> (one > is appended to the other, so appends)
[16:51] <erUSUL> donita: is like this :   if {} is the entire disk and [] are partitions the mbr is () --> {(mbr)[part1]...[partn]}
[16:51] <subichan> erUSUL: very nice of you, it's working, thx again
[16:51] <donita> and where the MBR is, so next time I encounterd the same problem I can fix it up by having a clue so I can learn and fix it up by logic not just remember those strange commands
[16:51] <bibekp> madcheeze_, what kind of problems you had with jaunty? i also have problems
[16:51] <PSYHERMES> who to use hamaker ?
[16:52] <kisuke> trism:  thanks a lot that should help
[16:52] <ManDay> (context: minimal ubuntu install - i might lack the necessary packages and/or config): According to network-manager-gnome I can establish a connection to a wireless AP but still, nothing works (nothing).
[16:52] <exploreralex> racecar56: sorry message was unclear. i want all the commands and shortcuts used in linux. is there a pdf? or a resource i can use when i don't have internet access?
[16:52] <AlexJones> Does anybody remember where in gconf-editor the option is that disables the icons of mounted devices on the desktop?
[16:52] <erUSUL> subichan: it is dangerous to work with a root nautilus
[16:52] <madcheeze_> bibekp, i dont have a problem, looking to get 3d going...
[16:52] <subichan> erUSUL: why is that?
[16:52] <erUSUL> AlexJones: apps>nautilus>desktop>show volumes
[16:52] <przemo_one> donita i run it from cd with command "sysrescue64 root=/dev/sda1" or something like that for 64 bit system
[16:52] <erUSUL> subichan: easy to make mistakes
[16:52] <bibekp> madcheeze_, what prevented you from getting the 3d going, thats what i asked
[16:52] <AlexJones> erUSUL, thx
[16:52] <racecar56> exploreralex: just look in the shortcut settings, under system>preferences possibly
[16:53] <bibekp> i have ATI card too. and fglrx doesnt work well przemo_one
[16:53] <subichan> erUSUL: i'm not too proficient with the terinal you know..
[16:53] <bibekp> madcheeze_,
[16:53] <donita> przemo_one : my Ubuntu is 32bit, can I make the same one as yours?
[16:53] <erUSUL> subichan: ok
[16:53] <bibekp>  i have ATI card too. and fglrx doesnt work well madcheeze_
[16:53]  * racecar56 has an ATI Radeon 2400 Pro and it failed miserably with Linux
[16:53] <erUSUL> !grub2
[16:53] <przemo_one> donita it allows me to boot into my installed linux and execute a commend "grub-install /dev/sda"
[16:53] <madcheeze_> bibekp, all info i see about the xorg problem poing to jaunty, not karmic. therefore, i am not going to do anything with it until i do my homework. i want to enable a cairo dock with opengl
[16:53]  * racecar56 but then switched to a geforce 8600gt and has been happy ever since
[16:53] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, I just added a computer to my network. All the computers are logging in via libpam-ldap. Now the problem is that on the new computer, users can log in. When typing : ldapsearch -h 10.1.1.xx -x -b dc=xxxx,dc=xx : i get all the users, so where is it going wrong ?
[16:54] <racecar56> ...except that the fan is noisy
[16:54] <racecar56> >_<
[16:54] <przemo_one> bibekt i have ati card, but i never mentioned that. how did you figure it out? that i have ati?
[16:54] <Tiders-> What is a good program that Ubuntu can run to make posters and stuff
[16:54] <bibekp> madcheeze_, problem is, i hate doing system upgrades, breaks so many things. i have so many things already installed and installing a fresh system will waste a lot of my time. if 3d with ATI is fixed, would be very happy. i have turned off compiz etc right now
[16:54] <hylian> is there a way to keep the icons where i want them after screen resize? they alway move around and i gotta put them back again
[16:54] <exploreralex> racecar56: you are right. its there. what chat software are you using? i have pdgin and xchat installed and i use pdgin
[16:55] <donita> przemo_one : Does the installation CD also the resecure CD ?
[16:55] <erUSUL> donita: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[16:55] <donita> Is
[16:55] <racecar56> exploreralex: i'm using pidgin too
[16:55] <racecar56> exploreralex: that's all i use for IRC these days
[16:55] <guitar-maniac> hey! can anyone help me to give rights to users through the terminal? i somehow took my own rights away so id need them back
[16:55] <donita> erUSUL, thanks
[16:55] <racecar56> exploreralex: i used to use kvirc in my KDE4 days...
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> Tiders-:  i used a tool called 'rasterbator' (rasterbater?) to take an image file and blow it up to HUGE sizes  that you print/paste the pages together :) it worked in wine
[16:55] <racecar56> exploreralex: ...but i've switched to gnome now
[16:55] <przemo_one> donita for the first question: yes use command "sysrescuecd root=/dev/sda1"
[16:55] <subichan> ok i could set different permission on a file but i need to make it executable through the web instead of making it downloadable, as it's a perl script.. how can I go about that?
[16:56] <Tiders-> Dr_Willis, Alright thanks
[16:56] <ripthejacker> can anyone help
[16:56] <sipior> Tiders-: have a look at scribus. first-rate program.
[16:56] <exploreralex> racecar56 :how do you do this?"***racecar56 but then switched to a geforce 8600gt and has been happy ever since"
[16:56] <ripthejacker> no audio plays with phonon-xine
[16:56] <ripthejacker> in amarok
[16:56] <racecar56> exploreralex: oh so easy
[16:56] <erUSUL> Tiders-: gimp? inkscape? scribus?
[16:56] <bibekp> przemo_one, do lspci, it will show you
[16:56] <ripthejacker> but phonon-gstreamer works fine
[16:56] <unop> subichan, where is the script placed now?
[16:56] <przemo_one> donite sda1 is the partition where i have linux, yours might be different
[16:56] <racecar56> exploreralex: 1. i purchased one from ebay for only around $33 2. i put it in my comp
[16:56] <subichan> unop: in my server directory
[16:56] <madcheeze_> bibekp, i have a fresh install, so i dont have it enabled either. but, i am going to screw with it, so i am going to put vbox on my current setup, and then screw with it on the virtual machine..
[16:56] <Tiders-> sipior, Can Ubuntu run that natively
[16:56] <donita> przemo_one : donita@donita-desktop:~$ sysrescuecd root=/dev/sda1
[16:56] <donita> sysrescuecd: command not found
[16:56] <sipior> Tiders-: sure can.
[16:56] <erUSUL> !info scribus | Tiders-
[16:56] <subichan> unop: where other html files are
[16:57] <bibekp> i'm  repeating my question: i have another question too: using madwifi and fglrx drivers gives me a lot of problems. i have deactivated them. but does anybody know why such problems? i use thinkpad t400 (64-bit) with ubuntu 9.04 x86 version. do i have to install the correct version (processor wise)? i have issues with my battery too (is this related with my previous question)?
[16:57] <unop> subichan, off course. but perl scripts (by default) are only executable when placed in the 'cgi' directory
[16:57] <Tiders-> sipior, Thanks dude
[16:57] <AlexJones> What is the point in introducing the software center in 9.10? Will synaptic be removed in the future?
[16:57] <przemo_one> bibekp i know that i have, but how do you know that I have also?
[16:57] <bibekp> madcheeze_, hmm
[16:57] <kielanmatt_> hi all
[16:57] <exploreralex> racecar56: not the hardware. i'm asking how do you display such messages on irc chat?
[16:57] <bibekp> przemo_one, didnt get you
[16:57] <kielanmatt_> im having a problem with CPU scaling
[16:57] <racecar56> exploreralex: oh
[16:57] <madcheeze_> bibekp, what wireless card do you have?
[16:57] <kielanmatt_> its fucked up
[16:57] <subichan> unop: ahhhh.. never knew that.. ok i'll try that. thanks man.. lemme see if i can make it work with that tip
[16:57] <racecar56> exploreralex: /me *something*
[16:57] <racecar56> exploreralex: that command would do...
[16:57] <kielanmatt_> any way of getting rid of frequency scaling?
[16:57] <ripthejacker> somebody help
[16:57]  * racecar56 *something*
[16:58] <Tiders-> sipior, SHould I grab the dev version or stable?
[16:58] <erUSUL> AlexJones: no; software center replaced Applications>Add/remove synaptic will allways be there for the power user
[16:58]  * kielanmatt_ tries to force off CPU scaling
[16:58]  * exploreralex *i think i got it*
[16:58] <racecar56> exploreralex: ya.
[16:58] <przemo_one> bibekp never mind. i have old x200mobile i'm not using fglrx
[16:58] <kielanmatt_> so?
[16:58]  * exploreralex got it
[16:58] <erUSUL> Tiders-: grab the one in the repos
[16:58] <kielanmatt_> any way of getting rid of frequency scaling?
[16:58] <sipior> Tiders-: just try "sudo apt-get install scribus"
[16:58] <Tiders-> sipior, Theres two in the repos NG and Stable
[16:58] <racecar56> exploreralex: so you can say /me types on the keyboard to say "***exploreralex types on the keyboard"
[16:58] <bibekp> madcheeze_, i think it is Intel
[16:58] <racecar56> exploreralex: it's an old-fashioned IRC command.
[16:59] <sipior> Tiders-: install both, try both. if you want, of course.
[16:59] <madcheeze_> run lspci in your terminal
[16:59] <przemo_one> donita its not a command for your ubuntu. you need to get seperate distribution calld system rescue cd and boot from that cd
[16:59] <erUSUL> kielanmatt_: set the cpufreq governor to performance that runs the cpu at full speed allways
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> no
[16:59] <bibekp> przemo_one, why does linux suck with ATI ? madcheeze_
[16:59]  * exploreralex racecar56 is the best help i've got yet on IRC, long live racecar56
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> i got it overclocked
[16:59] <Tiders-> sipior, Do you use the stable?
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> and it doesnt run as fast
[16:59] <racecar56> :D
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> beofre i upgraded
[16:59] <sipior> Tiders-: either one is fine, honest :-)
[16:59] <exploreralex> :)
[16:59] <unop> subichan, the cgi-bin directory is possibly /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ # you can use this command to make sure    grep -inHR cgi-bin /etc/apache2/
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> i managed to fuck up my governor
[16:59] <madcheeze_> bibekp, its lunch here, so i will be back in a bit, and we can work on it. probably 1 hour.
[16:59] <przemo_one> bibekp don't know. propably because ati. had old nvidia card, no problems
[16:59] <donita> przemo_one : Where can I get this CD?
[16:59] <bibekp> madcheeze_, hmm. ok
[16:59] <kielanmatt_> and the frequency monitor applet reported the overclocked frequency
[16:59] <bibekp> kielanmatt_, what do you mean ?
[16:59] <Pici> kielanmatt_: Please mind your language here.
[17:00] <Tiders-> sipior, Oh alrighty.. Hopefully they dont take forever to download here at school
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> it says 1.8ghz
[17:00] <przemo_one> bibekp drivers in executeble format not package :)
[17:00] <exploreralex> racecar56: i've heard kde is better than gnome
[17:00] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, I just added a computer to my network. All the computers are logging in via libpam-ldap. Now the problem is that on the new computer, users can log in. When typing : ldapsearch -h 10.1.1.xx -x -b dc=xxxx,dc=xx : i get all the users, so where is it going wrong ?
[17:00] <racecar56> exploreralex: and a little annoying thing you can do: say this: "/me  " no quotes of course, it says "***exploreralex" and that's all xD
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> on performance
[17:00] <przemo_one> donita google
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> before i upgraded from 9.04
[17:00] <racecar56> exploreralex: like this
[17:00]  * racecar56  
[17:00] <subichan> unop: ah so putting it inside var/www/html/cgi-bin won't work.. because it didn't work in fact
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> i manged to remove all frequency scaling governors
[17:00] <racecar56> exploreralex: heeheehee.
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> cpufreq etc.
[17:00] <sporedi> how do i fix ubuntu if it is Read-only file system
[17:00] <bibekp> kielanmatt_, why ?
[17:00] <exploreralex> lolz
[17:00] <guitar-maniac> How can i give admin priviliges back to some user through terminal? i messed up my own account and id like the privileges back :(
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> and it reported overclocked frequency
[17:00] <erUSUL> kielanmatt_: reinstall the kernel and related packages
[17:00] <donita> I'm sure I will install many PCs to Ubuntu, so I may encountered the same problem, I just hope I could understand them all so I can help others too
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> erUSUL
[17:00] <kielanmatt_> i cant reinstall
[17:01] <kielanmatt_> i want 9.10
[17:01] <donita> with
[17:01] <kielanmatt_> i dont want the cpu manager back
[17:01] <przemo_one> donita and find out where is yours linux system partition it can be different than sda1
[17:01] <kielanmatt_> the thing is that i dont have the packages
[17:01] <exploreralex> racecar56: i asked you if kde is better than gnome?
[17:01] <unop> subichan, well, you can change the location of your cgi-bin to  /var/www/html/cgi-bin/  if you like - but it's probably simpler to use the default directory and place your script in there
[17:01] <kielanmatt_> but still the governor runs somehow
[17:01] <racecar56> exploreralex: it depends on what you want.
[17:01] <erUSUL> !enter | kielanmatt_
[17:01] <Tixbu> serveur francais ?
[17:01] <erUSUL> !who | kielanmatt_
[17:01] <kielanmatt_> ok
[17:02] <bhuvi> bibekp, from what you have posted it seems your hybserv software consumes more of your cpu
[17:02] <erUSUL> kielanmatt_: becouse that's a kernel sriver like the one that controls your hard disk
[17:02] <subichan> unop: yeah indeed it is but then what would the url become?? /cgi-bin/script.pl ?
[17:02] <exploreralex> racecar56: what's the difference? i've heard only the desktop looks better in kde?
[17:02] <racecar56> exploreralex: if you like awesome insane desktop FX, and don't really mind crashyness (it's getting less crashier as the versions go by) then you'll like KDE4
[17:02] <erUSUL> kielanmatt_: you need the cpufreq tools to change the governor to performance
[17:02] <racecar56> exploreralex: it looks much better in KDE4, if you like FX
[17:02] <bibekp> bhuvi, i only installed a few days back. you mean my battery will perform well if i uninstall it ?
[17:02] <unop> subichan, yea.  http://yourhost/cgi-bin/script.pl
[17:02] <erUSUL> kielanmatt_: get rid of what?
[17:02] <harovali1> I'm having a strange network interface problem. The eth0 gets acknowledged as r8169. Then, a DSL conection is established though it. So far , so well. Every 8 minutes or so "r8169: eth0: link down" "r8169: eth0: link up"  appear in dmesg. If that pair of messages appear more than 4 times, then the DSL is hung with the following message logged to /var/log/messages " pppd[891]: No response to 4 echo-requests" "pppd[891]: Ser
[17:03] <przemo_one> donita have fun i must go for a while
[17:03] <exploreralex> racecar56: i need to reinstall linux in a kde version? or can i convert gnome to kde?
[17:03] <racecar56> exploreralex: i personally like GNOME because my comp runs uber fast (and to think, i have a Xeon 3200 of some sort)
[17:03] <racecar56> exploreralex: oh, no!
[17:03] <bhuvi> bibekp, can you unplug the charger and report the powertop output only then the amount of power consumed will be available
[17:03] <racecar56> exploreralex: you do NOT need to re-install!
[17:03] <erUSUL> exploreralex: you can convert; install kubuntu-desktop then ...
[17:03] <erUSUL> !purekde | exploreralex
[17:04] <subichan> unop: now unfortunately people have to type http://myhost/html/index.html and i wanted to get rid of that /html/ step in there.. where can one change all these directory settings?
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: GNOME/KDE have nothing whatsoever to do with the Linux OS itself, so you needn't re-installation
[17:04] <bibekp> bhuvi, unplug the charger for how long?
[17:04] <unop> exploreralex, you can install KDE besides Gnome
[17:04] <donita> przemo_one!! thank you
[17:04] <bibekp> i have another question too: using madwifi and fglrx drivers gives me a lot of problems. i have deactivated them. but does anybody know why such problems? i use thinkpad t400 (64-bit) with ubuntu 9.04 x86 version. do i have to install the correct version (processor wise)? i have issues with my battery too.
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: sudo apt-get install kde #problem solved
[17:04] <mr_daniel> everytime I get an email evolution automatically sends a message to the ubuntu notification system, which creates a small pop-up "you have a new email"
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: OR sudo apt-get install gnome #problem solved
[17:04] <exploreralex> how do i do that?
[17:04] <donita> I am reading the help.ubuntu.com/community/recoveryingubuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: open a terminal
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: you using GNOME now?
[17:04] <donita> I just want to remember them
[17:04] <exploreralex> yes
[17:04] <mr_daniel> how can I send my own messages to the notification system? for example I want to be warned when a compile porcess is finished
[17:04] <racecar56> exploreralex: and you want KDE4?
[17:04] <erUSUL> exploreralex: i just told you with help of ubottu
[17:04] <unop> subichan, it seems you have placed all your content in /var/www/html/  - why not just have it all in /var/www/ ??
[17:05] <bhuvi> bibekp, just for the acpi power usage estimate to become available
[17:05] <donita> It would be more easy if I knew those commands mean
[17:05] <exploreralex> which version is faster?
[17:05] <trism> mr_daniel: install libnotify-bin, and use notify-send
[17:05] <racecar56> exploreralex: 3 but it's removed from ubuntu 8.10+
[17:05] <theadmin> explorealex: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". I personally don't recommend KDE, it's kind of a buggy. If you need a fast system use GNOME or XFCE
[17:05] <erUSUL> exploreralex: install kubuntu-desktop package then fllow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[17:05] <exploreralex> i'm using 9.04
[17:05] <CarlFK> what package do I install to get java in firefox?
[17:05] <bibekp> bhuvi, if you tell me how long i unplug the charger before posting powertop results, it would be easier for me (so that you wont have to ask for another report later) :)
[17:05] <donita> if I knew the meaning of these commands... I am a slow learner
[17:05] <racecar56> exploreralex: ok well you will not get KDE3.
[17:05] <theadmin> CarlFK: Install "sun-java6-plugin"
[17:05] <unop> CarlFK, sun-java6-jre
[17:05] <racecar56> exploreralex: you can't.
[17:05] <donita> especially for computer
[17:06] <racecar56> exploreralex: just run this command in the terminal "sudo apt-get install kde"
[17:06] <exploreralex> hmm
[17:06] <subichan> unop: i stepped up on an already existing admin position.. anyway people don't really have to type all that, they just type the host and then it's redirected to myhost/html/ somehow.. and i don't have a clue as to how i could change that, as i'm not really acquainted with linux
[17:06] <CarlFK> theadmin: unop: thanks.  guessing sun-java6-plugin will get me jre too.
[17:06] <exploreralex> if its buggy as theadmin says i'll stick to gnome
[17:06] <unop> CarlFK, yea, should do
[17:06] <unop> CarlFK, and vice-versa
[17:06] <bhuvi> bibekp, just for a minute or so,the time you have your powertop running
[17:06] <exploreralex> CarlFK: it will.
[17:06] <theadmin> exploreralex: Well, last one I used was 4.2, but it was buggy and slow
[17:07] <mr_daniel> cool, notify-send works, thanks trism
[17:07] <przemo_one> doita command "sysrescuecd" is a kernel its you boot nad "root=/dev..." is the parameter, so it knows what to do
[17:07] <bibekp> bhuvi, oh, ok. i will have to repeat again. i unplugged, and started powertop.
[17:07] <exploreralex> theadmin: thanks, will stick to your advice
[17:07] <unop> subichan, well, it's in the config file for this particular site .. look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[17:07] <sporedi> when i run sudo apt-get install gnome or any package i am getting error with ----Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package update
[17:08] <subichan> unop: besides, the script now reacts this way: The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[17:08] <subichan> unop: so i'll eventually have to tinker with the configuration files
[17:08] <unop> subichan, what does this script do?
[17:09] <subichan> unop: nothin, just #!/bin/perl print("hi");
[17:10] <unop> subichan, well, as far as CGI is concerned this perl script is incomplete - it does not print out any headers to notify the browser of the content type
[17:10] <Curly_Q> Greetings!    Are there any musicians here that use Audio Kontrol 1? If so, has anyone here used it with Linux or Ubuntu?
[17:10] <keastes> is LXDE in the ubuntu repos?
[17:10] <theadmin> sporedi: Try using "aptitude" instead of "apt-get", may help.
[17:10] <bibekp> using madwifi and fglrx drivers gives me a lot of problems. i have deactivated them. but does anybody know why such problems? i use thinkpad t400 (64-bit) with ubuntu 9.04 x86 version. do i have to install the correct version (processor wise)?
[17:10] <theadmin> keastes: It is.
[17:10] <sporedi> ok
[17:10] <sporedi> thx
[17:10] <unop> subichan,  the best thing to do is have another terminal open and run this to debug your script.    sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:11] <sameer> hi
[17:11] <keastes> theadmin: thanks i was no sure, which is it in?
[17:11] <keastes> not*
[17:11] <theadmin> keastes: Lemme find it.
[17:11] <subito> hi, i got "Connection failed" on kgmailnotifier, what can i do about it?
[17:11] <unop> subichan, my guess is that you need another line.    print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; # before print "hi";
[17:11] <theadmin> keastes: It's in "lxde" package.
[17:11] <mswl> anybody knows how to use the package debian-history ? i installed but i dont know where to find it
[17:12] <sameer> hi! i use ubuntu 9.10. i managed to connect to internet via bluetooth from my mobile.but i find the speed to be poor compared to windows.wud appreciate any work out to increase speed..thnx
[17:12] <keastes> theadmin: thnks
[17:12] <erUSUL> mswl: dpkg -L debian-history
[17:12] <bibekp> bhuvi, here it is: http://pastebin.org/59282
[17:12] <kubanc> i copied folder to windows partition, but the owner is root, so i cannot use this folder in windows? how do i fix this?
[17:13] <aero> hi all
[17:13] <bibekp> kubanc, strange. you cant use a folder pasted from linux in windows?
[17:13] <theadmin> kubanc: "chown yourusername filename", something like this should do... Not sure whether this works on folders, but I guess yes.
[17:13] <Curly_Q> Kubanc, change permissions in Linux first then copy to Windows.
[17:13] <ChrisRut> Is there a performance difference between mounting a remote share via Samba vs via SSH ?
[17:14] <kubanc> bibekp, yes
[17:14] <aero> I'm thinking of learning to program with python, will someone recomend a program or site to help me with this
[17:14] <bibekp> try Curly_Q 's suggestion kubanc
[17:14] <mswl> thank you very much erUSUL ... thats exactly what i was looking for :D
[17:14] <kubanc> Curly_Q,  permission in linux are set to my username
[17:14] <Curly_Q> Remove user name.
[17:15] <theadmin> aero: Well, their site, python.org, has some documentation.
[17:15] <kubanc> bibekp, i have this set: drwxr-xr-x 6 kubanc kubanc 4096 ......
[17:15] <aero> theadmin lol, shoulda thought of that, thanks
[17:15] <bibekp> kubanc, i dont think linux permissions should be an issue in windows. which version of windows do you use?
[17:16] <Curly_Q> What kind of file or documents do you want to copy?
[17:16] <kubanc> microsoft windows XP SP2
[17:16] <scottbnel> Do I have to disable NetworkManager if I want to configure and connect to wireless networks from the terminal?
[17:16] <bibekp> Curly_Q, i never heard this kind of problem kubanc
[17:16] <kubanc> i was copying folders with movies, OOOO, is it possible that there is a file inside a folder that is only allowed to be viewed by root?
[17:16] <Curly_Q> I have.
[17:16] <Pici> !who
[17:16] <Curly_Q> It is a permission problem.
[17:17] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, I just added a computer to my network. All the computers are logging in via libpam-ldap. Now the problem is that on the new computer, users can log in. When typing : ldapsearch -h 10.1.1.xx -x -b dc=xxxx,dc=xx : i get all the users, so where is it going wrong ?
[17:17] <bibekp> Curly_Q, how can linux permissions be of any issue inside windows ? i read/write open root-owned fines once i copy them to windows
[17:17] <Curly_Q> Another reason is that the folder may be a hidden folder and check the properties of the folder.
[17:17] <subichan> unop: i think perl isn't installed..
[17:18] <kubanc> bibekp, windows cannot open folder, and i says that is is 0 file size
[17:18] <kubanc> Curly_Q, is it possible that there is a file inside a folder that is only allowed to be viewed by root?
[17:18] <bhuvi> bibekp, k from what i have seen your cpu should stay in higher cstates for most of the time in your case it's only 1.1ms,your power usage is 31.1w which is very high and it says that most of the power in ur system is consumed by something other than cpu
[17:18] <theadmin> kubanc: Well, if windows has some attributes messed up... but... maybe it didn't copy right, somehow. I'm assuming it's not encrypted, now, is it?
[17:18] <Curly_Q> Kubanc, forget copying a Linux folder to Windows. Just copy the contents of the Linux folder to a Windows folder.
[17:19] <bibekp> bhuvi, could you please elaborate
[17:19] <kubanc> theadmin, no it is not
[17:19] <theadmin> kubanc: Ugh... Just try doing what Curly_Q says.
[17:20] <bibekp> bhuvi, my cpu is being made to stay in higher cstate than normal ?
[17:20] <bhuvi> bibekp, try the suggestions provided by powertop and check whether your power consumption reduces or not
[17:20] <kubanc> theadmin, i changed the file with sudo chown -R user:user, copied it, and now i am going into windows to see if it worked
[17:20] <tophu> morning all (depending on time zone afternoon)
[17:20] <kubanc> if this corrected the problem i'll report to you with success
[17:21] <bibekp> bhuvi, i will. if you are free to explain to me what is happening, it would be really helpful to me
[17:21] <Curly_Q> When all else fails:  Read the Directions.
[17:21] <bhuvi> bibekp, yes your cpu must stay in a higher cstate in your case c6 state for atleast 15ms
[17:22] <bibekp> bhuvi, and what other thing than cpu is comsuming my power ?
[17:22] <Daremonai> Hello, I'm trying to install upsmon... and setting it up... it's now asking me for a PRTK code, which I do not know... and there's nothing written on my UPS... it's a PCE XP edition 1200VA
[17:22] <subichan> as the gui interface to ubuntu just froze could anybody tell me how to reset it?
[17:23] <subichan> after i clicked on the time to reset it the upper and lower bars froze
[17:23] <stsm> how can i temporarily disable control-C ?
[17:23] <stsm> it kills this game im playing...
[17:23] <bibekp> bhuvi, why cant such things (the suggestions of powertop) incorporated in linux when i select "laptop" while installing ubuntu ? looks ridiculous to me
[17:23] <bhuvi> bibekp, do have a graphic card? what version of ubuntu you are running?
[17:24] <Daremonai> http://www.pceups.com/Component/Products/Product.asp?ID=8&product=XP%20Pro%201200VA~3750VA&series=XP%20Economy%20/%20XP%20Pro%20/%20XP-RM/%20XPL <--
[17:24] <bibekp> bhuvi, ubuntu 9.04
[17:24] <subichan> or at least if somebody could tell me how to log off or reset my machine through the terminal i'd be grateful as well
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  reboot command.. or try alt-ctrl-sysreq-k to force X to restart
[17:24] <bibekp> bhuvi, i have an ATi graphics card and i have turned off compiz because the driver (fglrx) really sucks
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  or 'sudo service gdm restart' to r4estart x
[17:25] <sipior> stsm: "stty intr undef"
[17:25] <subichan> Dr_Willis: service not found
[17:25] <flan_suse> Is ffmpeg supposed to have mp3 support on a fresh installation of Linux Mint 7 and 8? ffmpeg tells me "Unknown encoder: libmp3lame" if I try to convert a file to mp3. On openSUSE, this works fine since ffmpeg (from Packman) supports mp3. The MediBuntu repository does not have ffmpeg on it. (Same problem with Jaunty and Karmic.)
[17:25] <bibekp> bhuvi, are these suggestions (of powertop) listed somewhere online? they change very soon for me to copy them :)
[17:26] <flan_suse> What repo can I get a fully functional ffmpeg package from?
[17:26] <kubanc> theadmin, the chowm -r didn't worked
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  perhaps its sudo service restart gdm , or are you using 9,10 or 9.04 ?
[17:26] <stsm> thanx sipior
[17:27] <theadmin> kubanc: Okay. I understand it's possibly a bad idea, but you can try to archive the files, and unpack them on Windows. You have a really strange issue, though :/
[17:27] <subichan> Dr_Willis: i'll try rebooting.. thanks..
[17:28] <kubanc> theadmin, i tryed to copy it over network to a different computer and the result is the same
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  or try the alt-ctrl-sysreq-k key combo
[17:28] <zepolen> after the last system update, ssh is slow as hell
[17:28] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis!     <---------------------<
[17:28] <zepolen> connecting - typing - all slow
[17:28] <zepolen> did something change?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> moo Curly_Q !
[17:28] <Curly_Q> :)
[17:28] <bhuvi> bibekp, perhaps you should consider upgrading to 9.10,for detailed info visit www.lesswatts.org
[17:28] <Curly_Q> Good to see you again.
[17:28] <theadmin> kubanc: Oh. That is very strangy.
[17:29] <bibekp> bhuvi, i will visit. but i dislike upgrades as it breaks so many packages
[17:29] <zepolen> anyone?
[17:29] <flan_suse> If ffmpeg is not on MediBuntu for Jautny or Karmic, then where else can I find a .deb for ffmpeg with mp3 support?
[17:29] <AshDragon> haven't noticed it @ zepolen
[17:29] <theadmin> zepolen: Updates generally tend to slow system down.
[17:29] <trism> zepolen: seems fine to me, maybe your connection is lagging?
[17:30] <theadmin> zepolen: A clean install is preffered. And yeah, check the connection
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[17:30] <stsm> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[17:30] <bibekp> bhuvi, is 9.10 stable? i have read negative reviews about it
[17:30] <madcheeze_> bibekp, you want to work on that wireless isue?
[17:30] <stsm> et doesnt have sound anymore
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> flan_suse:  i got it from somewhere.. medibuntu i thought
[17:30] <flan_suse> Dr_Willis: there is no ffmpeg package on MediaBuntu for Jaunty or Karmic.
[17:30] <AshDragon> i have seen 9.10 break several things on various computers at the office here; mine, however, works almost perfectly
[17:30] <kubanc> theadmin, widows gave me this error: E:\folder refers to a location that is unavalible it could be on a hard drive on this computer or on a network. check to make sure the disk id poperly inserted, or that you connected to the internet of your network, and then try again. if it still cannot be located, the information might have boon moved to a different location
[17:31] <zepolen> connection is fast - generally everything is fast, it's just ssh that is slow - actually, https is slow too
[17:31] <flan_suse> Dr_Willis: and the ffmpeg package on the official Ubuntu repos does not have mp3 support (legal reasons.)
[17:31] <rigel> hi, firefox says it's using system wide proxy settings, but i dont have any system wide proxy settings set up. it redirects to my school's proxy when i try and go to a site like pubmed. where would i find the file that determines this behavior?
[17:31] <aula14> hola
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> flan_suse:  may be best to just compile it from soruce to enable everthing you want.
[17:31] <theadmin> rigel: System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy
[17:31] <nibbler> rigel: are you in yor schools network?
[17:31] <zepolen> this makes no sense
[17:31] <aula14> dame un toque
[17:31] <rigel> theadmin: it's not there
[17:31] <theadmin> rigel: Oh, then I don't know, sorry.
[17:31] <madcheeze_> bibekp, do you want to work on that wireless issue now?
[17:32] <rigel> nibbler: currently, but it does it even at home.
[17:32] <aula26> Hola hola!!!
[17:32] <aula26> quién hay ahí?
[17:32] <aula26> eeooooo
[17:32] <aula14> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooooooo
[17:32] <zepolen> is it possible for an isp can throttle ssl/ssh traffic?
[17:32] <aula26> olé olé
[17:32] <aula18> ya toy
[17:32] <flan_suse> Dr_Willis: I was hoping to avoid having to compile from source. Prefer to stick with the package manager.
[17:32] <aula26> ya mismo nos quitan de ajquí!
[17:32] <ripthejacker> can someone help me with fstab
[17:32] <aula14>  yo me voy
[17:32] <aula18> pos zi
[17:32] <aula26> a onde?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> flan_suse:  then check the PPA repos I guess.
[17:32] <theadmin> !it | aula14
[17:32] <ripthejacker> somebody help
[17:32] <aula14> donde comemos mañana
[17:32] <aula26> mei dei, mei dei
[17:33] <aula26> Le llaman óscart
[17:33] <madcheeze_> !kick
[17:33] <aula26> yo me como un bocata
[17:33] <aula18> no se en el oscar
[17:33] <bibekp> madcheeze_, yes please
[17:33] <aula14> escalope
[17:33] <ripthejacker> can anyone help me?
[17:33] <madcheeze_> kk
[17:33] <bibekp> madcheeze_, yes please
[17:33] <Besogon> HI. Is any different exist between libreadline6 and libreadline5? I ask because quagga_0.99.13-1 depends on libreadline5< but in karmic is installed libreadline6 by default.
[17:33] <aula13> nos van a regañar
[17:33] <aula26> me lo como tó, jejejeje
[17:33] <madcheeze_> bibekp, what did lspci put out for your wireless network adapter?
[17:33] <theadmin> Ugh. Somebody explain them that this is a english-only channel.
[17:33] <aula26> vamos a atender una miaja
[17:34] <ripthejacker> please help meeeeeeeee!!
[17:34] <aula26> help, a need somebody!!!
[17:34] <theadmin> aula26: What is the problem?
[17:34] <aula26> problem?
[17:34] <ripthejacker> i need help
[17:34] <theadmin> ripthejacker: What's up?
[17:34] <ripthejacker> hi
[17:34] <aula26> me too
[17:34] <bibekp> madcheeze_, i think it is this one: 00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset MEI Controller (rev 07)
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[17:34] <kubanc> theadmin, is it possible that i cannot wiew folder baceuse other don't have any permission set ?
[17:35] <aula26> hi
[17:35] <ripthejacker> theadmin: i have a prob in fstab
[17:35] <aula14> estoy hasta ........
[17:35] <theadmin> !hi | aula26
[17:35] <madcheeze_> bibekp, no, it should say wireless. what is your notebook model number?
[17:35] <magmarules> Guys anyone knows if there a desktop mail client that groups mails like gmail? Not in threads, like a chat !
[17:35] <djem> How do I get more than 2 workspaces?
[17:35] <madcheeze_> bibekp, and brand?
[17:35] <ripthejacker> theadmin: i have managed to automount ntfs drives
[17:35] <bibekp> madcheeze_, Thinkpad T400
[17:35] <ripthejacker> theadmin: but they have only read permissions
[17:35] <aula26> Wlcome leperos!!!
[17:35] <erUSUL> djem: right click on the workspace switcher choose preferences
[17:35] <theadmin> ripthejacker: Ow. Not my kind of thing. Sorry... I got all the things of that kind automatically configured on install.
[17:35] <aula13> no sus estais enterando de na
[17:36] <ripthejacker> theadmin: well i dont know wer i screwed
[17:36] <aula26> nol
[17:36] <kostkon> !ops | aula nicks are bots
[17:36] <ripthejacker> theadmin: u have an ntfs drive?
[17:36] <aula26> mis neuronas ya no pueden máis
[17:36] <aula26> me caen os mocuelos
[17:36] <sipior> this feels very familiar for some reason...
[17:36] <theadmin> ripthejacker: Yeah, I HAD before, AFAIR ntfs-3g can't write.
[17:36] <aula26> me voy
[17:36] <aula26> chau
[17:36] <aula26> bye
[17:36] <madcheeze_> bibekp, i need the serial number so i can see what wireless card you have
[17:36] <jpds> kostkon: Hmm.
[17:36] <erUSUL> kostkon: not bots just school kids
[17:37] <ripthejacker> theadmin: its ntfs
[17:37] <bibekp> madcheeze_, wait a while
[17:37] <kostkon> lol. ok then
[17:37] <ripthejacker> theadmin: and i was able to write before
[17:37] <theadmin> ripthejacker: "ntfs-3g" is what Ubuntu mounts NTFS with
[17:37] <aula18> me quiero ir a mi cas
[17:37] <aula18> casa
[17:37] <madcheeze_> bibekp, its the product number
[17:37] <Pici> !es | aula18
[17:37] <ChrisRut> Just upgraded to Karmic, and now when ever a play a video it has a Blue tint to it... PEOPLE LOOK LIKE SMURFS
[17:38] <joshua__> i have xubuntu 9.10 and none of my windows have minimize or close
[17:38] <bwallen> Doesn anyone know if boxee supports hulu and netflix in linux?
[17:38] <sameer> hi..i m facing slow surfing speed while using internet vis bluetooth from my mobile
[17:38] <ritesh> i am tying to execute php script every 1 minute , using crontab -e , but its not executing..what am i doing wrong?
[17:38] <bibekp> madcheeze_, 2764-CTO could you also please check if i have a GPS receiver in this machine ?
[17:38] <bibekp> madcheeze_, i think i have, but i am not sure
[17:39] <codazoda> ritesh: Make sure you have the full path to execute and that the PHP script doesn't rely on running from a specific path (it won't run from there in cron).
[17:39] <djem> I only got two workspaces and that works kind of strange together with compiz and 3D cube. Normaly 4 workspaces are activated automaticly when I select 3D Cube, but not this time around. How do I chance the number of workspaces manualy?
[17:39] <tophu> I'm on an hp laptop with a built in wireless adapter and I purcahsed a usb wireless adapter with a different chipset... is there a way to force the usb adapter to use different drivers than the built in adapter?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> djem:  use the 'ccsm' tool general tab..  enable 100+ desktops if you want. :)
[17:40] <codazoda> djem: Look at backlist.
[17:40] <dinosaurvskitten> does evolution also randomly crash for anyone else?
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | djem
[17:40] <codazoda> Sorry, wrong user.
[17:40] <codazoda> tophu: Look at blacklist.
[17:42] <ritesh> ?
[17:42] <kubanc> theadmin, it looks like the problem was, that the folder did not had the permissions set for group "others", so probably windows din't know who can access this file, so this fixed the problem.
[17:43] <bibekp> kubanc, cool
[17:43] <madcheeze_> bibekp, not sure about the gps, but here is a link of what should work out of the box. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu_9.04_%28Jaunty_Jackalope%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T400
[17:43] <minimec> meine Mitteilungen
[17:44] <sameer> hi! i m facing slow surfing speed. i m using my mobile to connect to internet via bluetooth..pl help
[17:44] <madcheeze_> bibekp, lspci should show you all of the wireless information and what the card is. i need a bit more information than what you posted earlier to determine what is going on
[17:44] <madcheeze_> bibekp, and you shouldnt have to use madwifi
[17:44] <bibekp> madcheeze_, just a min
[17:45] <bibekp> madcheeze_, i am using ath5k
[17:45] <madcheeze_> ok
[17:45] <fool_> every once in a while i have this problem: everything works fine for a while but then suddenly the cpu pegs up 100% with high X usage and everything crawls until i kill all apps. starting any app again will peg the cpu up again. :/
[17:45] <madcheeze_> bibekp, ok, with lspci, what does it say about atheros?
[17:45] <bibekp> madcheeze_, so, i am fine without using madwifi? i hear madwifi provides more options (in terms of using wifi card)
[17:45] <donita> hi all
[17:45] <fool_> every once in a while i have this problem: everything works fine for a while but then suddenly the cpu pegs up 100% with high X usage and everything crawls until i kill all apps. starting any app again will peg the cpu up again. :/ any suggestion ?
[17:45] <donita> Good day~~
[17:46] <bibekp> madcheeze_, lspci | grep ath gives no result
[17:46] <madcheeze_> bibekp, i dont use madwifi. im a network engineer, and i dont need it. all the tools can be found on the web that you will need for testing, like putty, etc.
[17:47] <sameer> hi! i m facing slow surfing speed. i m using my mobile(gprs) to connect to internet via bluetooth.any help to increase speed will be appreciated.thanx
[17:47] <bibekp> madcheeze_, cool. you mean madwifi would provide the tools available on the web too? (that sounds cool to me)
[17:47] <sameer> hi! i m facing slow surfing speed. i m using my mobile(gprs) to connect to internet via bluetooth.any help to increase speed will be appreciated.thanx
[17:47] <madcheeze_> bibekp, just use lspci, here is what mine says -04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[17:47] <Lucho_> Hi, caon some one help me configuring a serial mouse on ubuntu 9.10?
[17:47] <sameer> hi! i m facing slow surfing speed. i m using my mobile(gprs) to connect to internet via bluetooth.any help to increase speed will be appreciated.thanx
[17:47] <sipior> sameer: yeah, we heard you already.
[17:47] <YellowBanchee> sameer: gprs sux on a mobile
[17:47] <simplexio> sameer: yeah.. and ignored you
[17:48] <Hillshum> sameer: We heard you the first time, but it could be an issue with ipv6. Go into about:config in firefox, and make
[17:48] <madcheeze_> bibekp, no, madwifi i think just enables the network adapter to use a specific driver that was compiled by them, and not the one intended via the manufacturer...
[17:48] <madcheeze_> bibekp, usually they edit the driver to make it better. i dont know about any other tools that it would provide that arent already embedded in linux, or can be gotten via synaptic
[17:49] <bibekp> madcheeze_, thats cool then. i wont need it
[17:49] <Hillshum> sameer: Go to the address about:config in firefox, and search for network.dns.disableIPv6 Make it's value True
[17:49] <andyzammy1> hi all, does anybody here have a hp pavillion dv7?
[17:49] <bibekp> madcheeze_, do you have any ideas about why fglrx doesnt work well with jaunty and ATI, and if i can fix it?
[17:49] <slayton> I have an old RHEL3 box with a hardware raid array. The box is dead and I need to recover the data. Can I simply plug the PCI card into an UBUNTU box and get the data off the array or do I need some sort of voodoo skils?
[17:49] <klown> Is it possible to load two different apps in wine, on the same virtual desktop?  I'm trying to load vent, and a game, and cant figure out how to load both.
[17:49] <madcheeze_> bibekp, yes, there is a bug out there. you have to edit the xorg file
[17:50] <AshDragon> Having a bit of trouble: ubuntu 9.10 cannot see any wifi adapters on my system; as it is a laptop with a wifi on/off switch, I know it exists~  Anyone run into this before?
[17:50] <bibekp> madcheeze_, any pointers?
[17:50] <sipior> slayton: should work, assuming enough disks are intact.
[17:50] <bibekp> madcheeze_, what did you derive from the lspci output ?
[17:51] <andyzammy1> i'm trying to find out how to open up my hp pavillion dv7 to clean it, it looks very dusty in the grill, does anybody know how to do this?
[17:51] <YellowBanchee> sameer: get HSDPA (High Speed Download Packet Access) on your mobile and it will still be slow
[17:51] <juan__> i've installed kwin from a ubuntu minimal install, some apps work others fail with a bus error, konsole/konversation are fine but kwin and quassel fail :S
[17:51] <Hillshum> andyzammy1: This isn't the place to ask, but have you searched google? Also, check HP's site. They have good docs
[17:51] <bibekp> madcheeze_, 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[17:51] <klown> andyzammy1, turn it off, grab a can of compressed air, and try thought route first.
[17:52] <cmacnau>  Hello, I'm trying to add an entry to the bootloader for Fedora 12 in 9.10.  Anyone have any experience with this?  I'm not well acquainted with grub2
[17:52] <iakovos> hi
[17:52] <prince_of_bodom> hey.. i have 15gb unpartitioned freespace on my laptop(created using easus).. got xp and kubuntu.. want to install fedora 11.. but it says not enough free space.. isnt the minimum req 9 gb?
[17:52] <andyzammy1> Hillshum: thanks for the tip, tried google, results were just white noise really, but didin't think about the hp site! will check now
[17:53] <mezquitale> cmacnau, menu.lst is no more, you have to edit a specfic file
[17:53] <andyzammy1> klown: thanks for the tip, but unfortunately i don't have any on me - i'm not even sure if its a good idea because the lappy isn't ventelated, i'd be spraying into the outlet, so wouldn't really get any of the dust out, just shifting it about
[17:53] <trism> cmacnau: you want to add it to 40_custom then run sudo update-grub, there is an example here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined Entries
[17:54] <iakovos> i have ubuntu  how i can download a video from youtube??
[17:54] <trism> cmacnau: /etc/grub.d/40_custom that is
[17:54] <cmacnau> mezquitale:  is the syntax the same?
[17:54] <prince_of_bodom>  i have 15gb unpartitioned freespace on my laptop(created using easus).. got xp and kubuntu.. want to install fedora 11.. but it says not enough free space.. isnt the minimum req 9 gb?
[17:54] <madcheeze_> bibekp, i will linky you... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:54] <klown> Is it possible to load two different apps in wine, on the same virtual desktop?  I'm trying to load vent, and a game, and cant figure out how to load both.
[17:55] <bibekp> madcheeze_, thanks
[17:55] <AshDragon> Having a bit of trouble: ubuntu 9.10 cannot see any wifi adapters on my system; as it is a laptop with a wifi on/off switch, I know it exists~  Anyone run into this before, or know how to fix it?
[17:55] <Fizix> Please, someone help me before I kill myself.
[17:55] <Fizix> I can't for the life of me establish a connection to my DSL modem on Karmic.
[17:55] <mezquitale> cmacnau, I think the syntax is the same except you have to remember the partitions start being counted at 1, not 0 but maybe trism can help you on that one
[17:56] <Hillshum> AshDragon: What laptop, and give me the output of lspci in a pastebin
[17:56] <cmacnau> Awesome.  I'll have a look and poke around.  Many thanks!
[17:56] <Listerthrawn> Fizix: What kind of connection are you trying to make
  th minim is 9 gb but you mast partitioned the 9 gb
[17:56] <bibekp> bhuvi, wow, the power usage has now dropped to 21 W. Thanks a lot
[17:57] <Fizix> Listerthrawn, I have a DSL line going to a 6100F Westel modem and an ethernet line going from that to the ubuntu box
[17:57] <Fizix> I'm trying to establish a 'DSL' network connection via the network manager to no avail
[17:57] <Fizix> Verizon tech support doesn't help with Linux distros, and so far my forum hunting has yielded no results for me
[17:57] <Hillshum> Fizix: That's not how you'll connect it
[17:58] <bibekp> bhuvi, now, it has dropped to 17.5 W
[17:58] <Hillshum> Fizix: That DSL tab is for DSl modems in your PC
[17:58] <YellowBanchee> Fizix: Why a DSL network connection, shouldn't your modem do that?  You bridging the link?
[17:58] <Hillshum> s/DSI/DSL
[17:58] <AshDragon> Hillshum: Toshiba Satellite;  http://pastebin.com/d1d2c1e7
[17:58] <Listerthrawn> Fizix: You'll just need to set your PC to dhcp and that should be it
[17:59] <mezquitale> Fizix, I'm assuming youre a newbie?  Mention that fact in the room, I think Listerthrawn 's advice will get you up and running
[18:00] <shooree> hey, anyone has any idea why I wouldn't be able to connect to a perfectly fine hidden network to which I know and have inputted the settings? I'm on Karmic, and every time I try to connect to the hidden network I just made, the "connect" button is grayed out. why?
[18:00] <Fizix> My first attempt was to use the 'wired' connection in the network manager, set to Automatic DHCP
[18:00] <Fizix> It still wouldn't resolve
[18:01] <theadmin> HELPZ! I need to mount an iso image. I use "mount -o loop Emperorcd1.iso /mnt/isodrive". But. When I execute the setup via WINE it says that I must "insert the disc"
[18:01] <Listerthrawn> shooree: I've always had problems with hidden networks.  Gave up hiding the SSID in the end
[18:01] <TheCheeze> Fizix, have you made sure your wireless drivers are enabled?
[18:01] <Fizix> TheCheeze, it's not a wireless connection, it's through an etheret cable
[18:01] <Fizix> *ethernet
[18:01] <theadmin> Oh wait, I think I know.
[18:01] <TheCheeze> Fizix, oops, i meant that for shooree
[18:01] <consolecowboy> theadmin: try running winecgf, then set your d drive to /mnt/isodrive
[18:02] <mangamonk> I have a linux laptop and a linux desktop machine accessing the internet through a router
[18:02] <Listerthrawn> Anyone else suffer from poor video playback with Nvidia drivers and effects switched on?
[18:02] <shooree> Listerthrawn, but is there anything I can do? My gf is on Jaunty and it all works swell. Her dad is right over me with his Win7 laptop.
[18:02] <mangamonk> I would like to be able to switch from the one to the other..any ideas?
[18:02] <Hillshum> AshDragon: Poke around linuxwireless.org for your card, also check the Hardware Drivers app in Ubuntu
[18:02] <shooree> TheCheeze, yes, I'm on an unprotected wireless right now. but the connection is crap,
[18:02] <YellowBanchee> Fizix: can you access your modem settings?
[18:02] <AshDragon> thanks @ Hillshum.  I've had no luck on Atheros' website.
[18:03] <Exile> hey guys my ssh server has stopped working
[18:03] <TheCheeze> shooree, does the hidden one have an ip filter set on the router?
[18:03] <Exile> anyone know why
[18:03] <AshDragon> was really hoping for an auto-detect feature
[18:03] <TheCheeze> shooree, or a mac filter rather
[18:03] <Fizix> I cannot access the modem at all as my problem isn't with an internet connection, but the network manager not communicating to the modem at all
[18:03] <Exile> I cant even ssh via 127.0.0.1
[18:03] <Exile> it was working yesterday
[18:03] <shooree> Listerthrawn, TheCheeze, here's my problem in detail, if you care: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331405
[18:03] <Hillshum> Fizix: Do other PCs/OSes work?
[18:03] <Exile> I think an update broke ssh
[18:03] <Listerthrawn> fizix: Do you know what IP the modem has?
[18:03] <Fizix> YellowBanchee, when I used my XP partition though, I wrote down all of the network info to try to help me
[18:04] <Exile> it is NOT a network issue
[18:04] <Fizix> Yes, it works with other OS's
[18:04] <shooree> TheCheeze, nope. the network "admin" is right here, he would know. I connected to it earlier.
[18:04] <bibekp> bhuvi, maybe we can take this here now.
[18:04] <Exile> any one know about ssh servers?
[18:04] <Fizix> Listerthrawn, yes, the modem is 192.168.1.1 but, I cannot connect to it
[18:04] <Exile> please!
[18:04] <TheCheeze> shooree, not sure then. i am connected to my hidden network with no hiccups at all. sorry i cant help ya
[18:05] <shooree> TheCheeze, actually, there might be a MAC filter, I'm not good at that, but I remember the guy inputting some info about my laptop in the router. So that should've solved it.
[18:05] <Hillshum> Exile: openssh-server?
[18:05] <Exile> yeah
[18:05] <Exile> its stopped working
[18:05] <klown> Is it possible to load two different apps in wine, on the same virtual desktop?  I'm trying to load vent, and a game, and cant figure out how to load both.
[18:05] <Exile> beacuse of some 'garbage'
[18:05] <YellowBanchee> Fizix: What make of modem?  Have you changed the user password?
[18:05] <dragon> how can I specify multiple mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list for failover?
[18:05] <sameer> i m aware ..tat u cant get hi-speed surfing through mobile.but wat i meant is ...i get good speed in windows compared to ubuntu 9.10...
[18:06] <Listerthrawn> fizix: Can you ping that IP address?
[18:06] <Exile> Hillshum I cant even get in via 127.0.0.1
[18:06] <Fizix> YellowBanchee, I've accessed the modem already through XP and yes, I know the password for it. It's not an issue of an internet connection or me not being able to login to the modem to modify its credentials, it simply will not talk to it
[18:06] <Fizix> Listerthrawn, that was the first thing I did
[18:06] <Exile> the open-ssh server has gone down
[18:06] <Exile> and I cannot install anything beacuse of it
[18:07] <Hillshum> Exile: What are you trying to do?
[18:07] <vaquerito> vacca
[18:07] <Exile> just login
[18:07] <sipior> Exile: have you simply tried restarting it?
[18:07] <Hillshum> Exile: To a remote system?
[18:07] <YellowBanchee> Fizix: can you access the modem interface via Ubuntu?
[18:07] <sdwrage> Loving KDE :D just installed it on ubuntu
[18:07] <Exile> yes I get an error when trying to restart
[18:07] <Exile> where can I paste it to?
[18:07] <Exile> I forgot the site
[18:08] <littlegreen> Exile: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <Hillshum> YellowBanchee: He has made it clear that he can't get that far
[18:08] <Fizix> YellowBanchee, no, I cannot. I cannot access the modem's interface, I cannot ping it, I cannot do anything with it. I've set the ethernet connection to automatic DHCP, it attempts to resolve and fails
[18:08] <DrRobino> What command will show me how many CPU's there is available?
[18:08] <Hillshum> Fizix: Do the lights go on when you plug it in?
[18:08] <YellowBanchee> Fizix: what is your ubuntu ip address?
[18:09] <Exile> heres what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/332514/
[18:09] <Fizix> Hillshum, yes
[18:09] <Exile> thanks for this guys!
[18:09] <nmvictor> Anyone used kannel before, I need help configuring it
[18:09] <Hillshum> Fizix: Do you have another system you can use?
[18:09] <Exile> its only happend since the last kernel update
[18:10] <Exile> /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 78: garbage at end of line; "2B/sshMessage.txt".
[18:10] <Exile> is the problem
[18:10] <Exile> but how to fix it I dont know
[18:10] <iceroot> DrRobino: top and then press 1  or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:10] <DrRobino> What command will show me how many CPU's there is available?
[18:11] <Hillshum> Exile: Can you log in locally?
 no I am on it locally
[18:11] <iceroot> DrRobino: !!
[18:11] <Exile> yes
[18:11] <Exile> I am now
[18:11] <jeward> Ninja7
[18:11] <Exile> I am typing this from the machine
[18:11] <Hillshum> Exile: Reinstall openssh-server?
[18:11] <DrRobino> iceroot: ??
[18:11] <Exile> I have tryed
[18:11] <iceroot> DrRobino: i told you already
[18:11] <Exile> I get this error
[18:11] <iceroot> DrRobino: so please dont repeat
[18:11] <Fizix> Hillshum, I'm on that very system now.
[18:11] <Exile> http://paste.ubuntu.com/332514/
[18:11] <jeward> How do I disble gnome-screensaver and enable xscreensaver for my login?
[18:11] <Exile> can you save me from a reinstall?
[18:11] <Exile> again
[18:12] <trism> Exile: can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[18:12] <iceroot> !enter | Exile
[18:12] <Hillshum> Fizix: So the modem should have a running DHCP server?
[18:12] <dlchesser> Trying to set cpu Frequency Scalling Monitor applet to suid with dpkg-rconfigure and it is not working, how do I do this?
[18:12] <dlchesser> ahhh, using 9.10
[18:12] <iceroot> !doesntwork | dlchesser
[18:13] <Exile> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/332515/
[18:13] <Fizix> Hillshum, I don't know how I could tell if I can't access it. Perhaps through the XP partition? The system I'm on now isn't on the DSL connection at all; they're completely independant from each other,
[18:13] <dlchesser> doesn't work means I am not prompted for "suid for cpu freq applet?"  dpkg-reconfigure -plow gnome-applets
[18:14]  * dlchesser knows that was a stupid statement "it does not do it when I tell it to do it"
[18:14] <Hillshum> Fizix: Yes, from any system connected to the modem, connect to them modem's web interface at 168.192.1 or something
[18:15] <Fizix> Hillshum, so I should make sure DHCP is enabled on the modem side via XP, then log back into the Ubuntu partition and try again?
[18:15] <sipior> Exile: have you tried moving sshd_config out of the way before the reinstall?
[18:15] <dlchesser> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets simply returns with no questions about set user ID
[18:15] <trism> Exile: it doesn't seem to like the space in the Banner line, try commenting it out then reinstalling
[18:15] <littlegreen> Fizix: that should do the trick, yes
[18:15] <Exile> ok I'll give that  ago
[18:15] <Hillshum> Fizix: Yes
[18:16] <cmacnau> trism and mezquitale :  Thanks for the help.  My triple boot vista/ubuntu/fedora laptop is up and running!
[18:16] <dlchesser> if as user I try to change the freq of the cpu freq applet, it askses for ROOT pwd, not sudo password.
[18:16] <trism> cmacnau: excellent!
[18:16] <hid3nax> Could anyone please help me to set up a multicast router on Ubuntu? I've just installed `smcroute' but don't know what to do next...
 commenting didnt work but deleting the line did!
[18:17] <Exile> thanks mate!
[18:17] <Fizix> littlegreen & Hillshum, I'm loading XP now, thank you. The box that's giving me trouble is the desktop on the DSL line, I'm currently talking with you folks on my laptop on a CDMA Mobile Verizon Wireless connection.
[18:17] <sdwrage> anyone have any good reason why I should NOT switch from GNOME to KDE?
[18:17] <Exile> I owe u one trism!
[18:18] <trism> Exile: np, glad it worked
[18:18] <empKMXzvQc> alllooo
[18:18] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage, nope, if u like KDE, then use KDE
[18:18] <empKMXzvQc> alllooo
[18:18] <empKMXzvQc> alllooo
[18:18] <FloodBot4> empKMXzvQc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <Hillshum> Fizix: Can you get the laptop on the DSL modem?
[18:18] <Kosova-Power|wer> alllooo
[18:18] <Kosova-Power|wer> alllooo
[18:18] <Kosova-Power|wer> alllooo
[18:18] <Kosova-Power|wer> alllooo
[18:18] <Kosova-Power|bg> alllooo
[18:19] <Kosova-Power|bg> alllooo
[18:19] <sdwrage> Nightlonewolf, I think its a bit easier on the eyes and makes working a bit more fun I guess :P
[18:19] <FloodBot4> Kosova-Power|wer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <FloodBot4> Kosova-Power|bg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <Kosova-Power|> Kosova is here
[18:19] <Kosova-Power|> Kosova is here
[18:19] <littlegreen> Kosova-Power|: stiga bre
[18:19] <ikonia> Kosova-Power|: stop now
[18:19] <Kosova-Power|> Kosova is here
[18:19] <FloodBot4> Kosova-Power|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage, i think it's actually alot better then gnome, BUT gnome is easier to find apps, and to install apps
[18:20] <littlegreen> Kosova-Power|: spri da floodish molq te
[18:21] <littlegreen> !ot | Kosova-Power|
[18:21] <sdwrage> nightlonewolf, I use aptitude almost always
[18:21] <Nightlonewolf> also sdwrage, KDE is easier on the desktop...my KDE desktop is filled with icons, but my gnome can't handle 20 icons without clutter
[18:23] <Nightlonewolf> and KDE is more customizable then Gnome...
[18:23] <sdwrage> cool
[18:23] <sdwrage> ill be moving over to it on my home PC :)
[18:23] <sdwrage> im on VMWare right now
[18:23] <Nightlonewolf> my laptop has DOS as VMWare, and ubuntu as it's main OS
[18:24] <mezquitale> youre still using DOS? LoL why, may I ask?
[18:24] <Nightlonewolf> my desktop is Debian though
[18:25] <Victors> Can't establish a decent connection using wireless ad hock
[18:25] <Nightlonewolf> mezquitale, i'm only using dos thru VMWare, and plus, it's a good OS for programming and stuff, kinda fun playing around with it too;
[18:25] <sdwrage> Nightlonewolf, im really only used to ubuntu, I come from a windows childhood :P
[18:25] <littlegreen> Victors: are you creating the ADHOC or are you joining it?
[18:26] <Mainstay> anyone else experience weird behavior with copy and paste, eg. between firefox and the terminal?
[18:26] <juan__> http://pastebin.com/d31f078e0 < every time i try and run amarok, any ideas what the cause of the problem is or what debuginfo is missing?
[18:26] <oCean_> !details | Mainstay
[18:26] <Victors> Creating with wep 128 and joining from another laptop
[18:26] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage, i'm from windows 98 childhood, then XP (which i didn't like at first) then i moved to ubuntu, hated it at first, so i went to debian KDE..and now i'm back at ubuntu
[18:27] <littlegreen> Victors: the other laptop doesn't see the wireless network you have created or.... what? Describe your problem with more details
[18:27] <at> hi
[18:28] <Nightlonewolf> at: hi
[18:28] <Victors> It does the same with no password the address is not ok just see the ip and the rest is blank
[18:28] <at> is anyone of u familiar with wubi?
[18:28] <Nightlonewolf> at: not me, surprisingly lol
[18:28] <littlegreen> Victors: is the other laptop using Ubuntu as well?
[18:28] <Victors> Is like the dns is not detected or resolved
[18:28] <at> okay
[18:28] <at> well im a linux noob
[18:29] <at> but would love to use it
[18:29] <at> bought new eee pc :)
[18:29] <sdwrage> Nightlonewolf, Use Windows 7 for gaming, entertainment, other; I Use Ubuntu (Kubuntu I guess soon) for Web Application Development
[18:29] <bradpitt> hi.. does anybody here have a problem with VLC playing .iso file? whenever i play .iso vlc crashed. and then i try with other video player totem, mplayer and gnome mplayer but they only play dvd menu and i can't click on play movie or sth.
[18:29] <Victors> No one is using win7 and the ipod touch does the same
[18:29] <nvme> where can i get the most up to date ISO on this server: http://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/ ??
[18:29] <racecar56> i find ubuntu better at gaming than windows.
[18:29] <Fizix> littlegreen & Hillshum, DHCP was already enabled.
[18:29] <newpc> hi, how can i break the 800x600 screen resolution barrier (i hate upgrade for this limitation)
[18:29] <Nightlonewolf> at: i'm good with most linux operation
[18:29] <racecar56> i literally was lagging once in windows while the same app in wine worked AWESOME
[18:30] <sdwrage> racecar56, meh... I think I like the windows 7 interface on a leisure day (day of gaming and randomness)
[18:30] <at> anyone has a good tutorial on how to install multiboot winXP + Ubuntu Netbook Remix ?
[18:30] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage,  i use ubuntu and Debian for everything..i hate Windows
[18:30]  * racecar56 agrees with Nightloneworlf
[18:30] <oCean_> Nightlonewolf, sdwrage  please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat..
[18:31] <sdwrage> Windows 7 has been good to me (so far). I think all OS's have strengths and weaknesses
[18:31] <racecar56> doh misspelling
[18:31] <sdwrage> I also do Photoshop work in windows environment opposed to linux
[18:31]  * racecar56 doesn't care about photoshop
[18:31] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage, windows weakness is that it has too many viruses and crap; linux weakness is that theres no good games for it! lol
[18:32] <racecar56> i find there ARE good games for linux
[18:32] <racecar56> but it's most probably because i'm not very much of a gamer
[18:32] <racecar56> i'm more of a programmer
[18:32] <racecar56> ...barely
[18:32] <Nightlonewolf> racecar56, point me where u get ur games!...yeah, me too.
[18:32] <oCean_> !ot | racecar56 Nightlonewolf
[18:32] <littlegreen> !ot | Nightlonewolf
[18:32] <racecar56> i get them from Ubuntu Software Center
[18:32] <Daremonai> Hello, I'm running a software that needs to talk to a com port on wine... i'm using a PL2303 serial/usb converter, I did ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1 - but the application still cannot see the com port!
[18:32] <coldboot> Where did the Bitstream Vera Sans font go in Ubuntu 9.10?
[18:32] <Nightlonewolf> ....oh..those games...
[18:32] <oCean_> yeah, our little ubottu has gone offline...
[18:33] <racecar56> ubottu isn't here, you're right
[18:33] <Nightlonewolf> yeah..what does !ot do anyhow?
[18:33] <danilo__> how install cedega on ubuntu?
[18:33] <Victors> Not all about the games for linux but the drivers compatibility is still short
[18:33] <oCean_> Nightlonewolf: please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, since this is support channel racecar56
[18:33] <littlegreen> danilo__: cedega is paid software
[18:33]  * racecar56 doesn't find linux to be short of drivers
[18:33] <oCean_> Nightlonewolf: it means you're OffTopic
[18:33] <danilo__> i know
[18:33] <Nightlonewolf> ahh, ok
[18:34] <danilo__> but i cant install anywahere game
[18:34] <xtalmath> whats wrong if network tools ping works on router address and address of siblings on the router, but I cant enter domain names? i dont know if I can ping other ip addresses
[18:34] <littlegreen> xtalmath: means there's smthng wrong with your DNS server
[18:35] <xtalmath> I can ping google s IP actually
[18:35] <xtalmath> does that mean software on my laptop?
[18:35] <littlegreen> xtalmath: tell me which domain are you unable to ping exactly?
[18:35] <xtalmath> resolv.conf is empty
[18:36] <xtalmath> I havent tried many domains but I can ping IPs like google s ip but not www.google.com
[18:36] <xtalmath> so somewhere addresses cant be translated
[18:37] <xtalmath> updated to 9.10
[18:37] <littlegreen> xtalmath: haven't had that problem... I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't help you
[18:38] <dlchesser> well setting a root password break ubuntu?  Not finding solution to cpufreq setting and need a root password.
[18:38] <dlchesser> well/will
[18:39] <oqax> uśmiech
[18:39] <ManDay> Ubuntu opens every single window maximized by default and doesnt store its last state - how can i change that?
[18:40] <Eiles> dlchesser, I didn't read what you wrote before, do you want to change your CPU frequency without using your password ?
[18:40] <zerq> ManDay: that doesn't sound normal.. are you just running normal Ubuntu or a variant
[18:40] <Zer> Howdy... anyone know how to get IPMI Sensors working on Ubuntu?
[18:41] <ManDay> karmic from a minimal install
[18:41] <dlchesser> Eiles, no, I tried to suid gnome-applets but dpkg-reconfigure returns with out that option:  changing cpu freq asks for root password.  appears common but can't find a fix for it.
[18:41] <ManDay> @ zerq
[18:41] <dlchesser> I intend to run vms on this box, cpufreq scaleing is bad for vms.
[18:41] <zerq> ManDay: so gnome desktop?
[18:42] <ManDay> yes - tho not the whole package
[18:42] <ManDay> sorry gotta leave
[18:42] <ManDay> will be back in approx 2 hours
[18:42] <ManDay> thanks already
[18:42] <dlchesser> so, I have two choices, rip out cpufreq and run at 100% all the time or set a root password.  I don't know which is the better option.
[18:44] <xci> dlchesser: setting root password sounds like a better option to me :/
[18:44] <zerq> weird.. cpufreq is working for me and I never set a root password..
[18:44] <zerq> on 9.10
[18:44] <dlchesser> zerq, can you change the freq?
[18:44] <xci> but as zerq said there should not be such problems
[18:44] <minervaK> hey there
[18:44] <minervaK> quick question
[18:44] <al_> Morning all
[18:44] <minervaK> i'm installing ubuntu within windows
[18:45] <dlchesser> google ubuntu 9.10 cpufreq and you will see tons of problems.
[18:45] <zerq> haven't tried.. it's in ondemand mode :/
[18:45] <minervaK> just rebooted as requested
[18:45] <Nightlonewolf> minervaK don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:45] <al_> I want to install this app on Ubuntu. Which one should I be dwonloading?
[18:45] <dlchesser> zerq, TRY
[18:45] <al_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergy2/files/
[18:45] <minervaK> and now it's gone to a line command screen that seems to take a long time
[18:45] <minervaK> is it hanging, or does it just take a while to install?
[18:45] <dlchesser> zerq, aaahhhh, please :)
[18:45] <zerq> it asked for my normal password
[18:45] <zerq> and it worked
[18:45] <dlchesser> here it asks for root
[18:46] <zerq> strange
[18:46] <dlchesser> and there are many others like myself.
[18:46] <minervaK> it's shown a couple of errors in the line commands
[18:46] <minervaK> i.e., 'memory corruption detected in low memory'
[18:46] <dlchesser> any short commings to setting root password on ubuntu, I have not tried it in years?
[18:46] <oCean_> dlchesser: which way are you trying to set the cpu frq?
[18:46] <zerq> i'm using the gtk applet if that makes any diff..
[18:47] <dlchesser> oCean_,  cpufreq applet
[18:47] <hid3nax> Could anyone please help me to set up a multicast router on Ubuntu? I've just installed `smcroute' but don't know what to do next...
[18:47] <minervaK> now it's sitting at 'end trace' and not doing anything
[18:47] <minervaK> help?
[18:47] <Eiles> dlchesser,  editing the policy for cpufreq could do the trick ?
[18:47] <dlchesser> Eiles, not sure I know how to do that.
[18:47] <oCean_> dlchesser: and it's actually asking for root pw? My own pw will work here...
[18:47] <dlchesser> zerq is that the gnome-applet?
[18:47] <dlchesser> oCean_, yes, ROOT
[18:48] <Eiles> dlchesser, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8158855&postcount=5
[18:48] <minervaK> anyone?
[18:49] <al_> which one of these do I download for ubuntu? http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergy2/files/
[18:49] <dlchesser> oh, Eiles I did try to edit /var/polkit-1.local...... but I will look at that.
[18:49] <zerq> dlchesser: yeah, cpu frequency scaling monitor applet or something..
[18:49] <dlchesser> zerq, yes, that is borked here.
[18:49] <minervaK> it's a dell dimension 2350 if that makes any difference
[18:50] <oCean_> dlchesser: well, there's the actual command "/usr/bin/cpufreq-selector"
[18:50] <minervaK> couldn't get ubuntu to boot from the cd
[18:50] <zerq> dlchesser: that sucks. :/
[18:50] <minervaK> so am not trying to install to see if that will work
[18:50] <Fizix> Is there a bug when installing Ubuntu from the Live CD after already loading the OS off the Live CD that you can't install software from aptitude?
[18:50] <minervaK> but i can't tell if it's installing or just hanging
[18:50] <Daremonai> how do i add wine on the repository for ubuntu 9.10, the website says: ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa -- what does this mean?
[18:50] <dlchesser> oCean_, yes, now that you say that, I remember it.  ain't gui fun?
[18:50] <oCean_> dlchesser: try using with sudo "sudo cpufreq-selector -c 0 -g performance" for high perf mode of cpu 0
[18:50] <Nightlonewolf> minervaK, do u want to dual boot ubuntu?
[18:50] <oCean_> dlchesser: gui makes us forget things :s
[18:50] <minervaK> nightlone, yes
[18:51] <dlchesser> cli works.
[18:51] <minervaK> i have two hard drives
[18:51] <oCean_> dlchesser: yay
[18:51] <minervaK> i'm installing ubuntu to my second hard drive
[18:51] <minervaK> but i'm not sure if it's working or not
[18:51] <dlchesser> why do I get the feel this release could have gone a month longer in the oven?
[18:51] <Nightlonewolf> well, minervaK if it won't boot from CD when u restart it, then go into the BIOS and change the boot order
[18:51] <minervaK> what should my screen look like?
[18:52] <minervaK> no, it will boot to cd, ubuntu just won't run from the cd
[18:52] <minervaK> i get the splash screen with the choices
[18:52] <pshr_> !upgrade
[18:52] <minervaK> but when i choose run from cd it goes to line command screen and hangs
[18:52] <Eiles> Daremonai, in a terminal type : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine and then sudo apt-get update
[18:52] <RenatoSilva> anyone else got his GDM broken after last update in package gdm?
[18:53] <Daremonai> Eiles: thanks
[18:53] <minervaK> maybe the cd has a burn error?
[18:53] <pshr_> problems with upgrade frm 9.04 to 9.10 ? any one can help ? please
[18:53] <nvme> where on this server can i find the karmic release that includes all updates ? http://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/
[18:53] <Nightlonewolf> then the CD is prob burnt wrong,
[18:53] <minervaK> aha
[18:53] <blip-> hi all,  I have a linux ubuntu machine that several users ssh -X into and open gui progs like matlab etc...  It was working fine, suddenly it breaks and no one can run any graphical app remotely.   I tried to run gvim, firefox -no-remote, matlab and in all cases I get the error:  "Error: cannot open display: localhost:10.0" ....  I've tried checking everything mentioned on the internet and can't find a solution.  I verfied config in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:53] <blip-> as well.    Any ideas ?   thanks
[18:53] <minervaK> lemme try burning it again
[18:53] <RenatoSilva> anyone else got his GDM broken after last update in package gdm? here I've got face browser again
[18:53] <Nightlonewolf> yeah minervaK; burn ubuntu at a lower speed
[18:53] <pshr_> !update
[18:53] <minervaK> ok i'll try that
[18:53] <minervaK> thanks man
[18:53] <Nightlonewolf> no problem
[18:54] <pshr_> has ubottu gone missing
[18:54] <pshr_> stupid bot doesn't respond
[18:54] <pshr_> !hi
[18:54] <blip-> ubuntu: sup
[18:54] <thebigb> does anyone here know what the cause is for a slow terminal?
[18:54] <blip-> pshr_: he's got THE flu
[18:54] <giampiero74> Hello I've got a question: USB devices seem to run very slowly, they take more than 5 min to copy a movie into. I'm using Xubuntu 9.10 and I don't have the same problem on Windows. ANY idea?
[18:54] <blip-> the piggy one
[18:54] <thebigb> phunny xD
[18:54] <pshr_> god!! i am saved
[18:54] <pshr_> :P
[18:55] <Fizix> Is there a bug when installing Ubuntu from the Live CD after already loading the OS off the Live CD that you can't install software from aptitude?
[18:55] <Fizix> I've installed Ubuntu and UNR on several machines
[18:55] <Fizix> And never had this problem
[18:55] <thebigb> no but seriously, all other things work fine, but when i keep a character pressed it is printed 10 characters at a time
[18:55] <Fizix> Netiehr the Ubuntu Sofware Center or Aptitude will let me install anything
[18:55] <Fizix> And I have sudo (root) acces
[18:56] <puff> Dangit, firefox hung, Ihad to kill it, now I have no audio in firefox.
[18:57] <pshr_> aint there any other way to upgrade.. dude this update manager stinks.. it gets halted....
[18:57] <Eiles> Fizix, open a terminal and type : sudo apt-get install yousoftware and tell us what the output is
[18:57] <puff> And amarok won't play because xine can't initialize an audio driver.
[18:57] <puff> Rebooting will fix it, but does anybody know a way to either a) avoid this in the future or b) fix it without rebooting?
[18:57] <Fizix> Eiles, "Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[18:57] <Mud> is someone running awstats on ubuntu 8.04 lts server? I have trouble to view the stats in my browser (it show 0 visitors etc) but the awstats.pl generates excelent .txt files..
[18:57] <Eiles> Try sudo apt-get update
[18:58] <minervaK> wow
[18:58] <Fizix> Sweet, doing that now, hopefilly that will help I've been up for 30 hours now so I'm losing my mind
[18:58] <minervaK> is there a 'unbutu for dummies' channel?
[18:58] <Mainstay> at: which EEE did you get?
[18:58] <Nightlonewolf> wow what minervaK
[18:58] <puff> Fizix:  step one, "sudo apt-get update"
[18:58] <minervaK> just reading the scroll makes me feel stupid
[18:59] <ubuntu> hi all, could you help how to restore grub onto my sda please?
[18:59] <Fizix> works, thanks! Don't need to kill myself today! Thanks everyone for your support
[18:59] <minervaK> lots of new terminology to learn
[18:59] <SzArAk> hi. how can i check if i have a sata or pata slim dvd on my laptop?
[19:00] <Nightlonewolf> well minervaK  if u want to learn about linux (half those terms are linux related, not just ubuntu) i'm sure someone here would help ya, all ya have to do is start asking
[19:00] <cesare> explosionirc.org
[19:01] <Nightlonewolf> that, or PM someone that will allow you to PM them, lol
[19:01] <sdwrage> how do I figure out where an application is installed via shell?
[19:01] <sdwrage> such as svn
[19:01] <Mainstay> anyone else experience weird behavior with copy and paste, eg. between firefox and the terminal? Like I copy something from the addressbar in ubuntu and then copy something else from the address bar, and when I try to paste into my terminal it paste the first.
[19:01] <Nightlonewolf> sdwrage,
[19:01] <MenZa> sdwrage: which svn would show you the binary
[19:01] <tyler_d1> sdwrage: which svn
[19:01] <sdwrage> yeah I just remembered :P
[19:01] <sdwrage> thx tyler_d1
[19:01] <Mainstay> Or sometimes it pastes and old piece of text I highlighted in the terminal
[19:01] <RenatoSilva> how to change gdm theme in Karmic?
[19:02] <Eiles> Mainstay, install a good clipboard manager like parcellite
[19:03] <Mainstay> Anyone got any other recommendations for a good clipboard manager?
[19:03] <Mainstay> most clipboard managers seem to be overkill in my experience.
[19:03] <jd_> hello
[19:04] <jozefk> hi
[19:04] <Mud> is someone running awstats on ubuntu 8.04 lts server? I have trouble to view the stats in my browser (it show 0 visitors etc) but the awstats.pl generates excelent .txt files..
[19:04] <minervaK> i'm just worried i won't be able to understand how to work ubuntu
[19:04] <linfo> !es
[19:04] <jd_> i am having issues with sound on this new mint
[19:04] <minervaK> how much linux do i need to know to use it?
[19:04] <jozefk> minervaK: almost nothing
[19:04] <linfo> canal espanol
[19:05] <Pici> linfo: #ubuntu-es
[19:05] <Mainstay> minervaK: not much all you need is google and the #ubuntu channel
[19:05] <oCean_> minervaK: get you free pocket guide here: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[19:05] <jozefk> minervaK: it will works out of the box
[19:05] <minervaK> yah i got the pocket guide
[19:05] <jd_> i upgraded mint 7 64 to mint 8 64
[19:05] <Mainstay> minervaK: using it's pretty much like using windows these days. administering it, is easier than windows in a lot of ways.
[19:05] <minervaK> now if i can just get the thing to install
[19:05] <linfo> canal en espanol?
[19:05] <jozefk> :)
[19:05] <linfo> !es
[19:05] <minervaK> mainstay, that's music to my ears
[19:06] <minervaK> windows is a huge pain in the ass
[19:06] <RenatoSilva> how to change gdm theme in Karmic?
[19:06] <jozefk> minervaK: if you have problem with installation try to burn the iso image on DVD instead of CD
[19:06] <Mainstay> installing it seems to be easier than windows these days....at least faster. Given the right hardware combo (if you don't have this, forget it) it's cake.
[19:06] <jozefk> windows sucks the big one :)
[19:06] <minervaK> jozef, i'm re-burning it now
[19:06] <Mainstay> windows is windows.
[19:06] <Pici> linfo: Por favor, use # ubuntu-es para el español
[19:06] <baytes> RenatoSilva: System - Administration - Login Screen
[19:06] <Mainstay> Anyone got any other recommendations for a good clipboard manager?
[19:07] <RenatoSilva> baytes: no
[19:07] <minervaK> nightlonewolf clued me in
[19:07] <oCean_> RenatoSilva: System > Preferences > Appearance
[19:07] <Mainstay> minervaK: i wouldn't recommmend attempting a dual boot with windows tho. Not without reading up on it carefully.
[19:07] <Nightlonewolf> i clued u in for what minervaK ?
[19:07] <tgnb_> hi all. i'm new to ubuntu, coming from Gentoo. i installed 9.10 and see that when a samba share is accessed it is also automagically mounted in ~/.gvfs
[19:07] <RenatoSilva> oCean_: incorrect too
[19:07] <jd_> what sudo command scans for sound drivers?
[19:08] <oCean_> RenatoSilva: no, that is the way to change your desktop theme(s)
[19:08] <RenatoSilva> oCean_: that changes current user's, not gdm's
[19:08] <crazyjr> satans feiga fack!!!!
[19:08] <baytes> RenatoSilva: /usr/bin/gdmsetup
[19:08] <Eiles> Mainstay, glipper is very simple
[19:08] <RenatoSilva> oCean_: sorry, you've incorrect answer for the question
[19:08] <tgnb_> however after logging out these are no longer mounted. is it possible to have certain shares mounted automatically on login?
[19:08] <crazyjr> fack yor possy boy!!!
[19:08] <RenatoSilva> baytes: you're incorrect, sorry.
[19:08] <zerq> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers!
[19:08] <oCean_> RenatoSilva: ah, ok. In 9.10, that's not too easy (there's less possibilities)
[19:08] <maco> Pici: thankies
[19:09] <RenatoSilva> baytes: how to change gdm ***theme*** in ***Karmic***?
[19:09] <RenatoSilva> oCean_: how to change ***gdm*** theme in ***Karmic***?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> zerq, you mistyped something
[19:09] <oCean_> RenatoSilva: for example this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwKa8TxKpw) shows how to change the gdm login
[19:09] <saruji> hello quick question, how do I run a .sh file with sudo command?
[19:09] <Pici> RenatoSilva: The version of gdm that ships with Karmic does not support the same theming that prior versions supported.
[19:10] <sdwrage> saruji, sudo sh myfile.sh
[19:10] <sdwrage> if I am correct...
[19:10] <RenatoSilva> oCean_: I was just trying to recall export DISPLAY=:0.0, that's annoying but is one of the steps to get it working. I just found that in the web and will try now. Be right back
[19:10] <Mainstay> on a similar note, how does one ensure that an external usb drive is always mounted to the same place (for example, if you want to create playlists that refer to mp3s on it, you don't want the path to the mp3 file to change depending on how many drives you have connected)
[19:10] <thebigb> the terminal on my notebook is very slow in 9.10. any ideas on what the problem could be?
[19:10] <baytes> RenatoSilva: found an excert: "THere is no way to "theme" your GDM with 9.10. THat feature has been removed. "
[19:10] <jd_> changing the theme just right click on the desktop and chose change desktop background
[19:10] <Nightlonewolf> saruji: sudo /path/to/sh/mysh.sh should do it, or use sdwrage way
[19:10] <klown> Is it possible to load two different apps in wine, on the same virtual desktop?  I'm trying to load vent, and a game, and cant figure out how to load both.
[19:11] <saruji> sdwrage, I run that I get "cant open setup.sh"
[19:11] <Nightlonewolf> klown, see if u can run both of them without a virtual window
[19:11] <minervaK> ok i'll see you cats later on
[19:11] <minervaK> thanks for the help
[19:11] <conb123> klown: Of course you can it will be pretty cpu intensive but of course
[19:11] <baytes> RenatoSilva: however here is a hack - http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[19:11] <Nightlonewolf> saruji, are u using ./setup.sh or just setup.sh?
[19:11] <Mainstay> minervaK: take note, don't dual boot without reading up on it.
[19:11] <RenatoSilva> Pici: yes, so you need enigmatic, non-user-friedly steps to get your theme back, as I did. But I have more useful things to do than care about those enigmatic steps to fix stupid regressions in GNOME. The whole problem thus is that I'm trying to recall those steps
[19:12] <klown> Nightlonewolf, if i try and run a game outside the virtual window, it ends badly, so the VW is required for the game.
[19:12] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, just setup.sh
[19:12] <littlegreen> how do I change keyboard layouts?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Mainstay, always install windows first, if possible :P
[19:12] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, ran what you said, it said no such command, so it doesnt know what I am asking it to do
[19:12] <littlegreen> No, how do I ADD and change keyboard layouts?
[19:12] <Mainstay> i hear there are issues with 9.10 and dual booting? I've also had random issues with thinkpads...even with windows first.
[19:13] <klown> conb123, currently, I have a script as described on wine FAQ, when i run it, the first app loads fine, but the second will not load until the first one is closed
[19:13] <Nightlonewolf> saruji, u want ./setup.sh if ur in the same directory of the file
[19:13] <klown> conb123, excuse the enter..how do I run them both together?
[19:13] <RenatoSilva> baytes: there is no default, easy way, but you can run gnome-appearance-properties as the user gdm, and you'll chnage it. The problem is how to run. Will try and brb
[19:13] <littlegreen> * I have already added language support for the language I want
[19:13] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, so run sudo ./setup.sh
[19:13] <saruji> ?
[19:13] <Nightlonewolf> yes
[19:13] <Mainstay> I guess the idea is, blowing away windows, in switching to linux, is going to be anti productive.
[19:13] <Mainstay> (for newbies)
[19:14] <][ceman> Can anyone tell me is this: RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH is fakeing RAID
[19:14] <BluesKaj> Mainstay, you can always fix grub from ubuntu but trying to fix it from windows is a pita , it can be done but leaves a lot junk on the bootloader
[19:14] <RenatoSilva> baytes: oh yes, that's the hack I used  when Karmic was released, but last update of gdm package today has broken it :(
[19:14] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, command not found, tried it with sh in from but same thing
[19:14] <][ceman> my install shows two seperate disks instead of one RAID1 volume
[19:14] <PyramidGuy> hello guys
[19:14] <Nightwolf> Nightlonewolf: hi
[19:15] <Nightlonewolf> nightwolf, hi, lol
[19:15]  * RenatoSilva brb
[19:15] <baytes> RenatoSilva: go figure, sounds bout like my luck lol. hmm let me dig a little more. whats the release #?
[19:15] <PyramidGuy> ANY1 HERE KNOWS (PERL  PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE ) ?
[19:15] <Mainstay> BluesKaj: yah, i had to use a grubdisk on the thinkpad. I was also trying to load ubuntu as a dual boot, but on an external usb drive. grubdisk saved me but no linux in the end.
[19:15] <Nightlonewolf> and saruji are u in the same directory as setup.sh?
[19:15] <saruji> yes
[19:15] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, yes
[19:15] <PyramidGuy> ANY1 HERE KNOWS (PERL  PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE ) ?
[19:15] <Pici> PyramidGuy: Perl programming support is in #perl
[19:15] <PyramidGuy> ANY1 HERE KNOWS (PERL  PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE ) ?
[19:15] <Pici> PyramidGuy: And please lose the caps
[19:15] <FloodBot4> PyramidGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <maco> PyramidGuy: #perl
[19:15] <Mainstay> yah, use ctrl enter. lol.
[19:15] <Nightlonewolf> hmm...thats strange then...cause it should load
[19:16] <racecar56> where can i get gl3.h?
[19:16] <matyy> say do you know if there is a word processor or text editor (that can work with unicode) that has good regular expression support? (open office's seems to be quite basic)? preferably X
[19:17] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, I can run the command "sh setup.sh" but without sudo
[19:17] <pranay> hi all
[19:17] <Nightlonewolf> hmm....well, saruji, my next best guess, is to log into root and then run setup.sh
[19:17] <guntbert> saruji: with sudo you need to type sh ./setup.sh because the current directory is not in the path
[19:17] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, yea I figured
[19:18] <PyramidGuy> thank u so much FlooBot14
[19:18] <PyramidGuy> thx so much
[19:18] <Nightlonewolf> guntbert, i suggested that, it didn't work
[19:18] <pranay> is there a way to join 2 or more mp3 files in linux?
[19:18] <guntbert> Nightlonewolf: ok, I came in late :-)
[19:18] <littlegreen> Is there a repo conatining Skype in itself?
[19:18] <Nightlonewolf> lol, i thought so guntbert
[19:18] <saruji> guntbert, so like sudo sh ./setup.sh right?  tried that and reads cant open ./setup.sh
[19:19] <saruji> guntbert, this is from a mounted ISO
[19:19] <Mainstay> matyy: geany or jedit?
[19:19] <Pici> littlegreen: I believe it is in the http://medibuntu.org repositories.
[19:19] <matyy> thx Mainstay I will check em out
[19:19] <guntbert> saruji: as Nightlonewolf already said: strange - why don't you try to copy the content somewhere else?
[19:20] <littlegreen> Pici: thanks
[19:20] <saruji> guntbert, good Idea will do
[19:20] <saruji> Nightlonewolf, guntbert thanks guys
[19:20] <Mainstay> matyy: one is better than the other i forget which, I'm still looking for the best alternative in a text editor geany is the best for me so far.
[19:20] <Nightlonewolf> saruji, if it's a mounted iso, then u prob should :P lol
[19:20] <Nightlonewolf> and no problem
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Mainstay, I didn't have any luck with grubdisk
[19:21] <littlegreen> how do I add the "medibuntu" repository?
[19:21] <guntbert> Nightlonewolf: he is gone :)
[19:21] <racecar56> pranay: audacity
[19:21] <racecar56> pranay: awesome audio editor.
[19:21] <littlegreen> Oh, there's a "Howto", sorry for asking
[19:21] <Nightlonewolf> guntbert, he is too! lol
[19:21] <jacobian__> Any ideas what might cause all movies and audio to play something like 50% to 100% faster?
[19:21] <Hillshum> jacobian__: A faster cpu?
[19:21] <jacobian__> My audio/video was working fine, and now it's double speed, or nearly
[19:21] <Mainstay> i actually had a lot of luck with linux at home by happening upon an old pc on the street. Before that I was always attempting dual boots and getting myself in truoble.
[19:21] <matyy> ok, i am installing, Mainstay, I am still quite new with regular expressions
[19:22] <Mainstay> matyy: just like riding a bike.
[19:22] <Mainstay> lol
[19:22] <Hillshum> jacobian__: Too fast? Chipmunk style?
[19:22] <jacobian__> Hillshum: Yeah
[19:22] <racecar56> Hillshum: xD
[19:23] <Hillshum> jacobian__: All video? All audio? Just certain programs?
[19:23] <pranay> racecar56: ok , i'll try that , thanks
[19:23] <Mainstay> matyy: it's always with the line breaks that the regexp support fails in those gui editors
[19:23] <jacobian__> Hillshum: It appears to be everything, I'm using pulseaudio
[19:23] <jacobian__> Hillshum: So I'm not sure about stuff that doesn't go through pulse
[19:24] <Hillshum> jacobian__: So when you watch a video it goes fast, or is the whole screen fast?
[19:24] <jacobian__> The video keeps up with the audio
[19:25] <jacobian__> And the audio is too fast, so it must be everything.
[19:25] <wildman> hello there, yesterday I've asked here about mounting directly (as you do with FAT and NTFS partitions) a Netware (type 65) partition under Linux
[19:25] <Hillshum> jacobian__: But normal programs work fine?
[19:25] <lockd> i've heard of issues with youtube video speeding up
[19:25] <lockd> it doesn't seem to be Linux specific, either
[19:26] <Hillshum> Could it be a gstreamer issue?
[19:26] <Hillshum> jacobian__: Have you used vlc?
[19:26] <wildman> anyone has an idea about this?
[19:26] <jacobian__> Hillshum: I don't have vlc, but I can try it in mplayer
[19:26] <Zer> Hmm. It appears Ubuntu 9.10 has no Xorg.conf... but (as usual) it's only detecting 640x480 and 800x600 for me.. any ideas?
[19:26] <jacobian__> Hillshum: It's the case for youtube as well
[19:27] <lockd> oh, if it's a standalone player that's an odd issue
[19:27] <Hillshum> jacobian__: What version of Ubuntu?
[19:27] <ubuntu_mad> My Ubuntu fore fox 3.5 wont download
[19:28] <wildman> I cannot find the helpful person I've found yesterday, so here I go again:
[19:28] <Hillshum> ubuntu_mad: Where are you downloading it from?
[19:29] <wildman> I have a Netware ATA/IDE disk connected on this machine and I'd like to access the Netware partition (type 65) from Ubuntu, the same way I access FAT or NTFS partitions, any ideas?
[19:29] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum:sorry i mean it wont DL attachments etc
[19:29] <wildman> ncpmount and friends are out of the question, because there's no Netware server running, I have the server's disk connected directly here
[19:30] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: like when i want to DL an email attachment..nothing happens when i select Download
[19:31] <Hillshum> ubuntu_mad: Does it work with all attachments and at all pages?
[19:31] <ubuntu__> hello need help mounting a usb drive
[19:31] <guntbert> wildman: have you seen http://www.novell.com/communities/node/3234/nfs-mount-netware-65-volume-sles-server-or-sled-client ?
[19:31] <fearful> Is there anyway I can forget the running applications on startup, I used the function which says 'Remember currently running applications'
[19:32] <Fazer2> hey, is there any way to remove or rename PPA?
[19:32] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: I cant DL any file from anywhere through FF download manager
[19:32] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, usb drives should be automatically mounted, have you tried running "lsusb" to see if your device is recognized?
[19:32] <nasrullah> hi
[19:32] <harovali1>  I'm having a strange network interface problem. The eth0 gets acknowledged as r8169. Then, a DSL conection is established though it. So far , so well. Every 8 minutes or so "r8169: eth0: link down" "r8169: eth0: link up"  appear in dmesg. If that pair of messages appear more than 4 times, then the DSL is hung with the following message logged to /var/log/messages " pppd[891]: No response to 4 echo-requests" "pppd[891]: Se
[19:32] <puff> Mainstay
[19:32] <Hillshum> ubuntu__: Also pastebin the output of dmesg
[19:32] <mMezquitale> !ask| nasrullah
[19:32] <c0p3rn1c> how can I install jdk 1.4 on a 64 bit ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:32] <nasrullah> how to set up bluetooth in xubuntu karmic
[19:32] <fearful> Is there anyway I can forget the running applications on startup, I used the function which says 'Remember currently running applications'
[19:33] <puff> Mainstay:  Yeah, absolutely, cut 'n paste drives me crazy.
[19:33] <wildman> guntbert: thx for the link, but no good, it's a situation similar to the ncpmount and friends, you have to have the Netware server running, I don't, I just have its disk and network card, that's all, the server is trashed
[19:33] <puff> Mainstay: The problem is that there are several different mechanisms.
[19:33] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: i do have j downloader but it used to work side by side with ff with no issues
[19:34] <guntbert> wildman: true, I only read the titles :-/
[19:34] <puff> Mainstay:  There are typically tyhree ways you can cut and paste in the terminal window;  select and then click, select and right-click-copy, select and edit/copy.
[19:34] <puff> Mainstay:  Likewise, in GUI emacs.
[19:34] <jozefk> fearful: System > Control Center
 yes tried that
[19:34] <puff> Mainstay:  If you find a solution, please let me know :-(.
[19:34] <jozefk> Startup Applications
[19:34] <MrKeuner> how can i change the super key system wide?
[19:34] <jozefk> Options :)
[19:34] <ubuntu__> can i get the command to force mount
[19:35] <puff> c0p3rn1c:  To start, get an easier nick to type :-).
[19:35] <ubuntu__> it a ide hard drive connected to a ide to usb converter
[19:35] <nasrullah> i do get bad signatures gpg ..how to correct this????
[19:35] <fearful> jozefk, thanks but thats not exactly what I meant but I guess I can work with that
[19:35] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, so did your device get recognized when you typed "lsusb"?  Are you plugging your device to a USB card?  Can you try installing the USB device to another slot?
[19:35] <wildman> guntbert: something like http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Nwfs-lw is what I'd need... but ready-made for Ubuntu :)
[19:35] <MrKeuner> jozefk, what options?
[19:35] <Fazer2> puff: why don't you/he change the copy paste shortcuts?
[19:35] <puff> c0p3rn1c:  There appears to be a fair bit oftalk about this on ubuntu.
[19:36] <puff> Fazer2: How so?
[19:36] <ubuntu__> well i can see it on computer but it says can't mount file ?
[19:36] <Fazer2> puff: in the terminal options
[19:36] <jozefk> System > Control Center > Startup Applications > Options
[19:36] <MrKeuner> It is so embarrassing to assign something to that key in GNU/Linux. Nothing should be assigned to something with MS logo on it. Could only be used for switching OS on double boot systems, or accessing ms website or something :)
[19:36] <puff> c0p3rn1c: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/953153/is-it-possible-to-put-java-1-4-on-64-bit-ubuntu
[19:37] <MrKeuner> jozefk, i do not think you know what you are talking about
[19:37] <Mainstay> puff: most irc clients allow you to click on the nick and it pastes it in.
[19:37] <Mainstay> puff: thanks for the feedback
[19:37] <jozefk> MrKeuner: haha
[19:37] <puff> Fazer2:  I don't see an "options" menu item, do you mean preferences?
[19:37] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, use paste bin and show us the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:37] <Mainstay> MrKeuner: just put some electrical tape over the logo on the key.
[19:37] <puff> Mainstay: It's been bugging me for a while.
[19:37] <jozefk> MrKeuner: fearful asked for that
[19:37] <Fazer2> puff: lol, yeah
[19:37] <MrKeuner> Mainstay, problem is that I do not have that key
[19:37] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: ??
[19:37] <nasrullah> no help???for bluetooth and signatures????
[19:38] <MrKeuner> jozefk, OK sorry
[19:38] <mMezquitale> !ask| nasrullah
[19:38] <puff> Mainstay:  Also bugging me:  copying and pasting text from firefox into the terminal cuases problems if the text has "smart quotes", m-dashes or other odd characters.
[19:38] <jozefk> np
[19:38] <Hillshum> ubuntu_mad: I have no clue
[19:38] <guntbert> wildman: looks like some work to do - but on a completely different line: you know that this channel is logged, so you can find old conversations again
[19:38] <ubuntu_mad> nasrullah: sorry im a noob lol
[19:38] <Fazer2> puff: edit -> keyboard shortcuts
[19:38] <Mainstay> guntbert: logged? where at?
[19:39] <flansuse>  In case anyone is interested, in order to get ffmpeg to convert to mp3 (which is what the Firefox addon Video DownloadHelper uses), you can simply install libavcodec-unstripped-52 from the package manager. The ffmpeg package from the Ubuntu repositories does not support mp3 for legal reasons.
[19:39] <mMezquitale> nasrullah, ask your question in one line, if someone knows the answer they will reply, if you get no response get some time and then ask again
[19:39] <flansuse> So, I'm happy now!
[19:39] <guntbert> !logs
[19:39] <wildman> guntbert: well, yesterday we didn't reach far with the helpful person, I had some ideas of other things to try... which obviously (now) didn't work :-\
[19:39] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: ok..read somehwhere that deleting the download.dfr file fixes it bu i cant find it
[19:39] <Pici> guntbert: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[19:39] <Mainstay> !logs
[19:39] <Mainstay> doh.
[19:39] <Fazer2> puff: you can use \ before the special characters
[19:39] <alexploit> people i hv  problem  , i hv kde on ubuntu 8.10 , how can i install networkmanager for gnome to make it work in kde
[19:39] <nasrullah> no way to get it sort out???lol???
[19:39] <ubuntu_mad> Hillshum: maybe in nedd to delete my profile?
[19:39] <mishoo> hi guys
[19:40] <_JoseLuis_> hi
[19:40] <mishoo> quick question, is there a "desktop recording program" that actually works?
[19:40] <guntbert> Pici: thx :-)
[19:40] <MrKeuner> mishoo, not yet
[19:40] <_JoseLuis_> I need a freak of gparted
[19:40] <ubuntu__> http://pastebin.com/m341b8d30
[19:40] <mishoo> I'm playing with recordmydesktop, but the sound is badly out of sync
 http://pastebin.com/m341b8d30
[19:40] <romario> hi all
[19:40] <mMezquitale> mishoo, what do you mean "recording program?  you want to record sound?  try audacity
[19:40] <mishoo> MrKeuner: ah, that confirms my feeling.. which is great because at least I can stop searching :)
[19:40] <puff> Fazer2: I think you mean Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts... not sure this  will actually solve the problem, depends on what buffer the keyboard shortcut copy uses.
[19:41] <mishoo> mMezquitale: I want to record a screencast with sound
[19:41] <c0p3rn1c> puff, thx , doesn't your IRC client has auto completion?
[19:41] <romario> тут есть русские?
[19:41] <puff> Fazer2 The problem is, I don't get that far.  When I just copy in firefox and paste in terminal, the text gets mangled.
[19:41] <MrKeuner> mishoo, there is Istanbul if you like to try but I did not like it either
[19:41] <_JoseLuis_> I've broken Windows installing ext2 driver to share my linux FS, becouse I've changed the letter of the partition, so does anybody knows how to change the letter again using GParted?
[19:41] <guntbert> !ru | romario
[19:41] <Mainstay> puff: so being that you are one of the few that answered does that mean noone else has problems pasting into terminal?
[19:41] <mishoo> I tried it, not too good
[19:41] <dragon> What's recommended? apt-proxy or apt-cacher?
[19:41] <Fazer2> puff: yes, I just said about edit->keyboard shortcuts
[19:41] <nasrullah> thank you
[19:41] <jozefk> romario: i understand russian but people speaks english here most of the time
[19:41] <_JoseLuis_> Changing the letter is the only way to fix it
[19:41] <Fazer2> puff: I didn't see the beginning of this discussion
[19:42] <puff> Fazer2:  the only thing that works for dealign with smartquotes, etc, is pasting into a GUI emacs buffer and editing them out.
[19:42] <Mainstay> mishoo: try wink?
[19:42] <Mainstay> anyone know how to install wink on 9.10 karmic?
[19:42] <puff> Mainstay:  I guess not.
 я понял тебя
[19:42] <jozefk> :)
 did u get the link ?
[19:42] <dicknc> is there a way to force a 32 bit program to install on a 64bit Karmic?
[19:43] <jozefk> Mainstay: what it that wink for?
[19:43] <dragon> dicknc: download the 32-bit version and run it with `linux32`
[19:43]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( how did I forget about wink?  let's see.. )
[19:43] <dicknc> Dragon:  just use that command?
[19:43] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, yes, this is weird, usually you can fix this by plugging the device into another port, you can also manually mount it, if you want to manually mount it first create a mounting point in "/media", do this by creating a directory like so " sudo mkdir /media/mydir"
[19:43] <dragon> dicknc: `man linux32`
[19:44] <DarwinSurvivor> I'm trying to debug a suspend/wireless problem on a eee
[19:44] <dicknc> Dragon: thanks
[19:44] <DarwinSurvivor> eee 1000HE (Atheros card) won't connect to wireless after suspend/resume.
[19:44] <RenatoSilva> how to disable splash screen when loggin in?
[19:44] <nasrullah> nothing for me????
[19:44] <ubuntu__> mMezquitale ok
[19:44] <Mainstay> wink = desktop video/screenshot capture
[19:44] <ubuntu__> i think it's a fat or fat32 file system
[19:45] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__,  can you also first go to the folder "/media" and check to see if the drive isn't already mounted there?
[19:45] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: not good!
[19:45]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( ok, dropped the idea )
[19:45] <mishoo> so far recordmydesktop is the closest to perfection, if only this sound issue would come up right :-/
[19:45] <RenatoSilva> how to make the window max/restore when you double click the title?
[19:45] <ubuntu__> mMezquitale not there
[19:45] <RenatoSilva> how to disable splash screen when loggin in?
[19:46] <DarwinSurvivor> sorry bout that, x-chat had an anurism
[19:46] <nasrullah> many thanks to all of not helping me?????????????????
[19:46] <klown> I have enabled the control alt backspace to restart X in the keyboard settings, but it is still not working (ubuntu 9.10) any ideas?
[19:46] <DarwinSurvivor> Mainstay: i checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Asus%20Eee%201000HE and it mentions a bug "similar" to mine, but doesn't say anything about suspend (which is the problem for me)
[19:47] <DarwinSurvivor> I haven't noticed any signal strength problems when it does work (before suspend), so it may be unrelated
[19:47] <ubuntu_mad> nasrullah: sorry but if no one knows how then thay dont reply
[19:47] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__,  try installing ntfs support first: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"
[19:47] <puff> nasrullah:  apparently nobody here knows the answer.
[19:47] <nasrullah> ok
[19:47] <puff> nasrullah:  I don'tknow the answer myself, and I've actually spent a fair bit of time learning to program bluetooth stuff.
[19:47] <ubuntu_mad> nasrullah: it does get frusting alright but keep trying
[19:47] <ubuntu__> mMezquitale i doubt it ntfs it's a dos os
[19:47] <puff> nasrullah:  It's frustrating, sometimes, when nobody seems to notice that you're talking, but generally that's better than everybody replying "I don't know".
[19:48] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip mentioned some cards requiring a re-mod-probe after suspend, how would I do that?
[19:48] <mMezquitale> ubuntu_mad, i already asked him to try asking the same question later but he's not listening
[19:48] <wubuntu> nasrullah: Best option is to come back and ask later
[19:48] <wubuntu> Because someone later might know
[19:48] <nasrullah> ok
[19:48] <DarwinSurvivor> any ideas Mainstay ?
[19:48] <nasrullah> which netbook is best for Ubuntu???
[19:48] <wubuntu> I ask questions here and often no one knows, but twenty minutes later, ten people will know
[19:48] <ubuntu_mad> mMezquitale: lol   ya but it does get frustrating when yer system is kaput lol
[19:49] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, so the hard drive is formatted using fat16?
[19:49] <teicah> how do I permanently disable services at bootup like sendmail, cups, etc??
[19:49] <ubuntu__> mMezquitale not sure what file format it has but for sure it not ntfs
[19:50] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: ugh... what a pain. I've stopped using suspend resume. Should be able to disable renable the wifi card. I know it's a known issue with EEE's, might google it with the 1000xx model.
[19:50] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: are you starting from a fresh install?
[19:50] <DarwinSurvivor> how do i disable/re-enable it?
[19:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Mainstay: yes (used it for a couple weeks now, but problem has been there since i installed)
[19:51] <Mainstay> mmm. that i don't know off hand, though there might be more than one way.
[19:51] <klown> I have enabled the control alt backspace to restart X in the keyboard settings, but it is still not working (ubuntu 9.10) any ideas?
[19:51] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: update?
[19:51] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__,  this will allow you to mount a fat16/32 partition manually: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/[SDB#] /media/MYDIR -o uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[19:51] <DarwinSurvivor> i have tried stopping/starting wicd, networking, wicd-client, etc
[19:51] <teicah> Where do I begin researching: 1computer 2x(monitors, keyboard, mouse) so 2 diff ppl can use it @the same time?
[19:51] <DarwinSurvivor> i've basically restarted every networking daemon i can find, short of re mod-probing the driver (which I don't know how to do)
[19:52] <DarwinSurvivor> if i knew the name of the driver, i could probably re-mod-probe it, but i can't figure out it's name ;(
[19:52] <ubuntu__> mMezquitale ok and how do i know which sdb is the right one
[19:52] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:52] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, replace SDB# with the hard drive in your machine
[19:52] <duffydack> What happend to the `services` admin app, its not in karmic
[19:53] <MrKeuner> how can i change the super key system wide?
[19:53] <Kottizen> 7win 52
[19:53] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:53] <trism> duffydack: it was removed for the moment because it isn't compatible with upstart, it may be back eventually though once they update it
[19:53] <DarwinSurvivor> Mainstay: the bug report also mentioned backports, but i don't know what package to install from backports...
[19:53] <sebsebseb> !ot |  tran228
[19:53] <nasrullah> good night to all of you
[19:53] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__, repost the link to pastebin and ask the same question again, if someone knows they answer they will reply, i'm going to try my USB boot up drive now
[19:53] <Eyethforce> Hi I need help...
[19:54] <sebsebseb> Eyethforce: with?
[19:54] <ubuntu__> how do i know which sdb is my external drive
[19:54] <Eyethforce> I am thinking to use ubuntu but i have no idea how to install BOTH windows xp and ubuntu
[19:54] <MrKeuner> !help | MrKeuner
[19:54] <alexploit> people i hv  problem  , i hv kde on ubuntu 8.10 , how can i install networkmanager for gnome to make it work in kde
[19:54] <sebsebseb> ubuntu__: sda is the first hard disk,  sdb is the second
[19:54] <alexploit> people i hv  problem  , i hv kde on ubuntu 8.10 , how can i install networkmanager for gnome to make it work in kde
[19:54] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:54] <Eyethforce> I am using HP netbook
[19:54] <mMezquitale> ubuntu__,  that's the question you want to ask, dont forget the link to pastebin
[19:54] <sebsebseb> alexploit: as far as I know you can't
[19:55] <Leoneof``> hello
[19:55] <ronald_> anybody know how to get serial working under 9.10
[19:55] <MrKeuner> !help
[19:55] <RenatoSilva> how to make the window max/restore when you double click the title?
[19:55] <RenatoSilva> how to disable splash screen when loggin in?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> alexploit: 9.10 improves the network stuf a bit,  if I remember correctly
[19:56] <lasivian> hiya
[19:56] <lasivian> any suggestions for a keylogging program under Ubuntu?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> alexploit: 8.10 is a good release, but is on the verge of running out of support
[19:56] <Eyethforce> Is it possible for me to have dual boot for winxp and ubuntu in Netbook?
[19:56] <Cajjita> HAHA, NETBOOK
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Eyethforce: if your netbook can handle it sure
[19:56] <tran228> please help me identify this song very easy http://www.musicuploader.org/MUSIC/550851259697143.mp3
[19:56] <Eyethforce> Ok
[19:57] <sebsebseb> tran228: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:57] <Eyethforce> So all i need do is use WINXP recovery cd to partition the HD?\
[19:57] <lasivian> i'm trying to setup a cronjob on my own notebook that will email me webcam shots and keylogs if it's missing/stolen
[19:57] <ronald_> no serial under 9.10
[19:57] <Leoneof``> so odd with laptop...that Gnome-Network-Manager can't detect my external wireless (usb) , but when i turn ON internal wireless , it will work both of them! ,any help?
[19:57] <lasivian> but i'm having trouble finding a keylogger for Ubuntu
[19:57] <sebsebseb> ronald_: serial???
[19:58] <ronald_> yes no serial port
[19:58] <ronald_> ttyS0
[19:58] <streblo> i'm running a script from cron that needs to open firefox, but the script fails and tells me it was unable to open the browser. i'm guessing this is because cron doesnt have permission to open firefox, but i dont really know how to give cron this permission. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> lasivian: that does not suprise me
[19:58] <zerq> cool idea in theory.. but if someone stole your laptop do you think they'd leave ubuntu on it?
[19:58] <skyl> is there anyway that I can diff to dirs that aren't under nay source control?
[19:58] <skyl> two dirs that is :D
[19:58] <Leoneof``> hello?
[19:59] <zerq> not that i would ever steal or buy a stolen laptop.. but let's say I did.. first thing I would do would be to wipe the hdd
[19:59] <lasivian> sebsebseb, well, it's a type of program that is easy to abuse, but does occasionally have legit uses
[19:59] <trism> skyl: if they are text files you can use diff directory_1 directory_2
[19:59] <sebsebseb> lasivian: exactly
[19:59] <lasivian> zerq, worth trying, what have I got to lose
[19:59] <skyl> trism, no way ...
[19:59]  * skyl off to try
[19:59] <lasivian> zerq, especially if I leave it logged in
[20:00] <zerq> lasivian: yea, could definitely be worth it.. even if they were to turn it on once
[20:00] <Neremor> is there a way to route the output which is sent to the front-center speaker to the rear-center speaker in pulseaudio?
[20:00] <cj_> Hi I'm a newbie...I have a E-MU 1212m sound card.  I can't understand how to understand on how to install the driver.
[20:00] <zerq> lasivian: no idea where you would get a software keylogger for ubuntu though
[20:00] <sebsebseb> cj_: oh
[20:00] <Neremor> becasue for any reason i can't get my front-speaker working; it is detected as rear-center speaker ;)
[20:00] <lasivian> it's easy enough to dump camera shots in email, but I figured a keylog would be good too
[20:00] <sebsebseb> cj_: how new to Ubuntu or Linux in general even?
[20:00] <zerq> lasivian: if there even is such a thing
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Neremor, most of the speech in 5.1 is dirtected to the center channel , why would you do that
[20:01] <sebsebseb> cj_: sound isn't really my area, but maybe I can hep you a little bit
[20:01] <cj_> sebsebseb,  extremely new
[20:01] <meonkeys> anyone have a link on (or can quickly explain) how to manually resolve a configuration file conflict when updating a package?
[20:01] <slam_> whose bright idea was it to make the volume applet non-movable in 9.10 ?!?!?
[20:01] <ibuclaw> Neremor, I'm pretty sure I've seen it been done before
[20:01] <sebsebseb> cj_: how new?  and which versin of Ubuntu?
[20:01] <isolat3dsh33p> why does my synaptic touchpad can't detect 2 fingers? How do i tell whether it's synaptic or not?
[20:02] <slam_> the volume applet should be in the top-right corner so i can throw the mouse up there and scroll to adjust the volume without even looking...
[20:02] <ibuclaw> Neremor, this will give you an introduction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[20:02] <Neremor> i don't thnik so
[20:02] <slam_> whoever decided to make that a CONCRETE applet now, is a jerkface and has no idea what it means to support customizable FOSS
[20:02] <Neremor> I'm reading tutorials for 5.1 sound for over two months now
[20:02] <lasivian> the second part of this is, how do I set ubuntu to always keep my account logged in>
[20:02] <DarwinSurvivor> How do i find out what kernel modules are installed so I can re mod-probe my wifi card after resume?
[20:02] <lasivian> which i'm guessing is not "normal" behavior
[20:03] <sebsebseb> cj_: 9.10 yes?
[20:03] <jmyers> hello
[20:03] <slam_> lasivian:  go to System > Administration > Login Window or somethin' like that
[20:03] <cj_> sebsebseb, yes
[20:03] <Neremor> and now i got it working that my center speaker reacts on rear-center output... but because i can't change this, i need to address the output to other channels... in alsa this was done with a channel map, but pulseaudio...
[20:03] <cj_> it says all I need is the latest alsa
[20:03] <lasivian> slam_, thanks
[20:03] <cj_> I have ti
[20:04] <cj_> it
[20:04] <slam_> np
[20:04] <zerq> ibuclaw: install tpconfig
[20:04] <zopiac> precisely every other time I load up Rhythmbox, it crashes after like 10 seconds. Another thing i notice is that these times it crashes the Radio and Last.FM plugins do not load in the sidebar. can anyone help?
[20:04] <mzuverink> cj, is this what you do not understand http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715755   ?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> cj_: sound is hmm
[20:04] <sebsebseb> cj_: your on a lap top?
[20:05] <cj_> destktop
[20:05] <jercyl> Hi
[20:05] <sebsebseb> cj_: and sound does not work at all?
[20:05] <zerq> oops
[20:05] <zerq> isolat3dsh33p: install tpconfig
[20:05] <sebsebseb> jercyl: hi
[20:05] <nytek_> zopiac: uninstall the plugins and try to load it again?
[20:05] <cj_> not at all
[20:05] <ibuclaw> zerq, thanks for the tip ;P
[20:05] <zerq> ibuclaw: disregard that, wrong person ;)
[20:05] <isolat3dsh33p> !tpconfig
[20:05] <sebsebseb> cj_: ok well  that's a bit odd for a desktop
[20:05] <sebsebseb> cj_: it's lap tops that usually get the sound issues with Ubuntu
[20:05] <zopiac> nytek_: i will seee; is it just rhythmbox-plugins or something else obvious?
[20:06] <isolat3dsh33p> zerq: what's tpconfig?
[20:06] <sebsebseb> cj_: however I had a proper sound issue on my desktop for the first time with 9.10
[20:06] <nytek_> zopiac: probably, seach in synaptic
[20:06] <zopiac> nytek_: it isn't rhythm* anything, yeah ill look in the synaptic package manager
[20:07] <sebsebseb> cj_: you may be able to configure stuff and get your sound working, but it won't be that easy, especially when your new
[20:07] <nytek_> zopiac: yeah, just type in something with last.fm
[20:07] <zopiac> nytek_: those plugins come with rhythmbox; perhaps i should just reinstall it completely
[20:07] <nytek_> zopiac: good idea.
[20:07] <sebsebseb> cj_: what kind of sound hardware is it? nothing that fancy, or really new right?
[20:08] <nytek_> zopiac: sorry, i dont use rhythmbox, i dont know much about the package information
[20:08] <Leoneof``> any help? O_o
[20:08] <nytek_> Leoneof``: what is your question?
[20:08] <zopiac> nytek_: its ok, lets just hope this will work :)
[20:08] <nytek_> zopiac: :D yeah
[20:08] <madcheeze> anyone setup virtualbox in karmic? is it stable?
[20:09] <nmvictor> how do i install spell checker for GNU editor
[20:09] <zopiac> nytek_: darn; problem still occurs...
[20:09] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: you can do Virtualbox from the repo or from the site
[20:09] <nytek_> madcheeze: yeah
[20:09] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: go to website and get the closed source, if you want USB support
[20:09] <Leoneof``> nytek:  so odd with laptop... Gnome-Network-Manager can't detect networks for external wireless (usb) wlan1 , but when i turn ON button for internal wireless wlan0... the wlan1 will work and detect networks , why?
[20:09] <nytek_> zopiac: i dont think removing it will remove any configuration files
[20:09] <sebsebseb> cj_: don't know the answer?  or disappeard on me?
[20:09] <seyfarth> Anyone know of a good dreamweaver-esque alternative for ubuntu? I don't need the WYSIWYG, but the site management is nice.
[20:10] <Mainstay> lasivian: based on what zerq said, perhaps a bios based keylogger lol, i am kinda surprised you couldn't find a keylogger tho.
[20:10] <xover> i have lost my sound, is there a quick way of restarting it?
[20:10] <nytek_> Leoneof``: you dont have the drivers installed for the usb card then
[20:10] <xover> I have tried alsa restart and pulseaudio restart
[20:10] <zopiac> nytek_: it doesn't seem to have any; or at least not in any ~/. folder. there is no ~/.rhythmbox folder, and its only folder i can find is ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/ which only has an empty plugins folder
[20:10] <lasivian> Mainstay: think I found one
[20:10] <nytek_> xover: run aumix or alsamixer
[20:10] <Leoneof``> nytek: it is installed , ndiswrapper with windows driver
[20:10] <Neremor> well is there a way to use the .asoundrc bindings-option to route the channels to their output AND use pulseaudio?
[20:10] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, what is the virtualbox repo cmd? i know sudo apt-get install but whats the word for vbox?
[20:11] <sebsebseb> cj_: 9.10  has issues with certain things that worked in the previous release 9.04, so maybe you should try that
[20:11] <xover> then what mate?
[20:11] <zopiac> nytek_: of course it has to have some sort of configuration, but i just cant find any
[20:11] <nytek_> Leoneof``: when you run ifconfig does it show wlan1?
[20:11] <lasivian> Mainstay, http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/
[20:11] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: it's the open source one from the repo, with no USB support
[20:11] <nytek_> zopiac: um, you might want to google the problem
[20:11] <zopiac> nytek_: i havent seen anything relevant on google
[20:12] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: the USB support would also have to be set up a bit in the terminal
[20:12] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: for the version that has it
[20:12] <nytek_> zopiac: when did the problem start to happen?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: virtualbox-ose  for the repo one I think
[20:12] <nytek_> zopiac: what do you think caused it?
[20:12] <Leoneof``> yes, it will show me wlan1, even it will detect networks but in terminal only
[20:12] <Leoneof``> nytek: yes, it will show me wlan1, even it will detect networks but in terminal only
[20:12] <zopiac> nytek_: maybe a month ago, when I added a bunch of plugins (but i have since removed them from the plugins folder)
[20:12] <madcheeze> sebsebseb, the one i have showing up is that one that you said, do i need the gtk frontend too?
[20:13] <zopiac> ive just been ignoring it for a while
[20:13] <nytek_> zopiac: try adding the plugins again
[20:13] <sebsebseb> madcheeze: just install virtualbox-ose and it should take care of any other dependancies
[20:13] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: is there no way to disable via the ui?
[20:13] <nytek_> Leoneof``: so you can connect to wifi networks via terminal?
[20:13] <xover> nytek
[20:13] <mMezquitale> anyone knows how to find the checksum for netbook remix?
[20:13] <nytek_> xover: ?
[20:13] <zopiac> nytek_: i tried adding the ones i still have again, but for the others I would need to find online again. they were scattered across the webs
[20:13] <git__> md5sum netbook remix
[20:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Mainstay: not that I can find (using WICD) network-manager has given me firewall problems in the past
[20:13] <xover> i think vmware server took the sound input
[20:14] <xover> how do i get it back to the host?
[20:14] <DarwinSurvivor> I spent 3 weeks trouble-shooting another eee server (diff model) and found out network-manager was somehow preventing incoming ssh/http connections
[20:14] <ZaNeIuM> how can i tell what version of grub im using?
[20:14] <nytek_> zopiac: ugh, thats definitely a confusing problem. have you tried a complete removal from syntapic of rythmbox?
[20:14] <wildman> bye ppl
[20:14] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: Why?  normalely it doesn't really matter as such
[20:14] <wildman> guntbert: thx for your help
[20:14] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: which version of Ubuntu?
[20:14] <xover> it says speaker is off is that the problem?
[20:14] <zopiac> nytek_: was just going to try that
[20:15] <Leoneof``> nytek_: i can connect to the networks via terminal but it is nothing just word saying that is connected
[20:15] <nytek_> zopiac: good luck, ill be on in a little
[20:15] <zopiac> k
[20:15] <xover> rascleet
[20:15] <xover> wtf is up with this sound
[20:15] <vik> hello, I want to disable ipv6 globally, what is the simpliest and best way of doing that in Karmic? Thanks
[20:15] <sebsebseb> !language |  xover
[20:15] <nytek_> Leoneof``: you do a ifconfig wlan1 -essid "network"? then run dhclient wlan1
[20:15] <ZaNeIuM> i just intalled an other os on the free artiton and i need to know what ersion i had so i can find a tutorial on updating it
[20:16] <xover> banjod
[20:16] <thiebaude> !update
[20:16] <Leoneof``> nytek_, i do iwconfig >_>
[20:16] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: eee home server? how is that?
[20:16] <racecar56> where can i get gl3.h?
[20:16] <xover> sound anyone?
[20:16] <madcheeze_> sebsebseb, sorry, horrible wireless here at school. do i need the gtk frontend too?
[20:16] <xover> it must be a simple task?
[20:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Mainstay: it was for a job. The guy had a eee he wanted to use as a web server (VERY few connections), ssh was for maintenance
[20:16] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: don't think so
[20:16] <ZaNeIuM> sebsebseb is accualy xbmc-live wich uses ubuntu 9.10
[20:16] <madcheeze_> sebsebseb, thanks
[20:17] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: just install virtualbox-ose and it should take care of any other dependancies as I already put
[20:17] <G__> Hello
[20:17] <zopiac> nytek_: even complete removal does not work :\
[20:17] <madcheeze_> sebsebseb, thanks!
[20:17] <guntbert> xover: please be patient
[20:17] <xover> what is seahorse?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: if you want USB support as I already put as well, you need to get the other version, go to the website and yep
[20:17] <guntbert> xover: try /msg ubottu info seahorse
[20:17] <Leoneof``> nytek_, i need to do in gui, not terminal ^_^
[20:18] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: plus that would need setting up in Ubuntu with the terminal
[20:18] <madcheeze_> sebsebseb, i wont need it. i can download my image right to my main pc and do it there. no biggie...
[20:18] <G__> A need to hot wire wifi
[20:18] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: ok ose  should be fine then
[20:18] <starcannon> You can find the MD5sums for your Ubuntu Netbook Remix here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[20:19] <starcannon> mMezquitale : http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ should have the checksums your looking for
[20:19] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: ok well uhmm not sure what that is
[20:19] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: and this room is only meant to be for Ubuntu
[20:19] <madcheeze_> sebsebseb, thanks bud. i am hoping to hack on my ati drivers tonight, and hopefully put together a guide to building it for those of us that want to use an ati card.
[20:20] <sebsebseb> madcheeze_: ok and ok np
[20:20] <sebsebseb> !ati | madcheeze_
[20:21] <Mainstay> ANyone know if the ATI Radio 9800 series drivers are loadable in 9.10 karmic?
[20:21] <sebsebseb> Mainstay: don't know, but maybe that bot link above is useful for you as well
[20:22] <ZaNeIuM> sebsebseb: ubuntu comes with grub and installs so its kinda part of it all
[20:22] <ZaNeIuM> but i found out how to check the version. so thx
[20:22] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: if you put on another distro,  your Grub might mess up a bit, well I mean
[20:22] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: what Ubuntu put in the MBR getting over written by the other distro
[20:22] <xover> aahh i fixed my sound, i killed all the alsa instances and now it just crackles like a radio antenna, excellent
[20:22] <Mainstay> I read up on it a bunch of the weekend and heard that the ATI drivers for the 9800 and the older cards are not supported in the new kernel
[20:22] <ZaNeIuM> i installed win7
[20:23] <ZaNeIuM> but its all good i know how to fix it cause i'm using the old grub :)
[20:23] <sebsebseb> ZaNeIuM: and if you install Windows after a Desktop Linux, it will over write  what was put in the MBR by the Linux distro boot loader
[20:23] <jcrawford> ZaNeIuM, you damn trader
[20:23] <jcrawford> :)
[20:23] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: trader?  you meant traitor?
[20:23] <Mainstay> is there a windows 7 theme for linux. LOL.
[20:23] <thiebaude> jcrawford, im using windows 7
[20:23] <jcrawford> sebsebseb, can't let me have that one eh :)
[20:23] <ZaNeIuM> lol, not its not like that, i've only been using linux for like 2 weeks
[20:24] <sdwrage> Mainstay, vistar7
[20:24] <ZaNeIuM> its used for my htpc
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Mainstay: probably,  plus there's a way to make KDE 4 look rather much like Vista Version 2 (Windows 7)
[20:24] <xover> its a shame that linux is so unreliable
[20:24] <DarwinSurvivor> I need to know the module name of my wireless card so I can mod-probe it after suspend!
[20:24] <Waldir> hi. I'm constantly having problems with my sound since I upgraded to karmic... can someone help me?
[20:24] <jcrawford> hahah unreliable
[20:24] <DarwinSurvivor> How do I find it (or even a list of modules i have)?
[20:24] <xover> it is mate, especially ubuntu
[20:24] <jcrawford> windows = unreliable from all my experiences
[20:24] <xover> its a shocking desktop
[20:25] <xover> desktop OS I mean
[20:25] <jcrawford> i love OS X stable, unix like
[20:25] <guntbert> !ot | xover
[20:25] <jcrawford> but... work wont buy one so i installed Ubuntu haha
[20:25] <xover> lol nice
[20:25] <sdwrage> Windows 7 hasn't steered me wrong yet. I like both equally :)
[20:25] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: well soemtimes it's good to make sure you have the correct word :)
[20:25] <jcrawford> sebsebseb, yea ya hear ya :)
[20:25] <thiebaude> sdwrage, im trying 7 out
[20:25] <sebsebseb> Windows 7 blah de blah,  in 2014 or so it will be old news, and there will be another version of Windows
[20:26] <jcrawford> yep and Ubuntu will be gone just like Mandrake haha
[20:26] <jcrawford> j/k
[20:26] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, yes every 3 yrs or so
[20:26] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: uh what's wrong with Mandrake/Mandriva?
[20:26] <sdwrage> sebsebseb, spoken like a true linux purist ;)
[20:26] <genesis_> hi all
[20:26] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: I left 9.10 for  Mandriva 2010 :)  now that's a rather nice distro,  Ubuntu 10.04 might win me back properly though
[20:26] <jcrawford> i started with Mandrake nothing wrong with it per-se but it went to Mandrivia which i thought to be odd and dropped it
[20:27] <sdwrage> sebsebseb, I don't particularly like Microsoft all that much either but I do have to say that I am enjoying Windows 7 as an operating system
[20:27] <sdwrage> whether the "experts" say it sucks or not
[20:27]  * sdwrage shrugs
[20:27] <xover> vmware server probably works in w7 too
[20:28] <dAlfa89_> !ot
[20:28] <sdwrage> fine fine dAlfa89_, I feel the heat on the back of my neck
[20:28] <sdwrage> :P
[20:28] <coreGrl> hi
[20:29] <coreGrl> how can I set up midi on karmic? I didn't found doc about that
[20:29] <jcrawford> man i keep seeing thei ubuntu message but who is paying attn to it :)
[20:29] <dAlfa89_> sdwrage, (:
[20:29] <sebsebseb> sdwrage: Linux purist :D  I use Windows sometimes, but don't have a proper reason to these days :)
[20:29] <lasivian> what's the name of the program that will tell me the #'s of my m ouse buttons?
[20:30] <jcrawford> lasivian, xev maybe?
[20:30] <jcrawford> i know that will tell you what your keys codes are should tell you about your mouse too
[20:30]  * Spidler peers at the list of names.
[20:30] <Potti> hello
[20:30] <DarwinSurvivor> lsmod shows "mac80211, led_class, ath and cfg0211" modules as being used by ath5k, which one do I need to modprobe after suspend to turn my card back on?
[20:30] <Mainstay> I switched to linux, now I don't know how to tell my external usb drives to mount to the same mount point every time.
[20:31] <rigel> Mainstay: man fstab
[20:31] <lasivian> jcrawford, yes, thanks
[20:31] <Mainstay> fstab isn't so straightforward for a noobie eh?
[20:31] <rigel> oh wait, that would be udev
[20:31] <Potti> i've installed xp via virtualbox. how i can get my network to work?
[20:31] <rigel> fstab is pretty straightforward
[20:31] <rigel> udev isnt, in my experience
[20:31] <sebsebseb> sdwrage: Vista is good enough for me when I  want Windows,  as for Windows 7 (Vista Version 2) I have used the RC, but not a final.
[20:31] <Spidler> fstab only is if your device node is stable.
[20:31] <maxlouism> Bonjour :)
[20:31] <Mainstay> I went down the fstab road, what's the directive I need to apply?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !fr |  maxlouism
[20:32] <Mainstay> yah...i ended up at a dead end with fstab.
[20:32] <Spidler> .LABEL=MyStick  /media/mystick defaults,users  1 1
[20:32] <maxlouism> ok, merci:)
[20:32] <jcrawford> hola
[20:32] <Spidler> Might work,   if your stick is named "MyStick"
[20:32] <sebsebseb> !es |  jcrawford
[20:32] <jcrawford> lol
[20:33] <jcrawford> yea i don't understand a word that says :)
[20:33] <at> hey
[20:33] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: ok well did you know that hola is hello in Spannish?
[20:33] <at> what do u think is the best ubuntu for eee pc?
[20:33] <jcrawford> sebsebseb, yea
[20:33] <Spidler> I'm having a different kind of problem. Is anyone here good at debuging X?
[20:33] <jcrawford> !en | jcrawfrod
[20:33] <sebsebseb> jcrawford: I don't understand what the bot put there, either
[20:33] <Spidler> at: I'd guess netbook edition?
[20:33] <mmav> hi guys
[20:33] <mmav> I'm in need of some help - would anyone care to help me?
[20:33] <starcannon> at regular ubuntu with the array.org kernel rocks on my eee pc's
[20:33] <jcrawford> racist people don't have an entry for english :)
[20:33] <Leoneof``> any help? O_o
[20:33] <erUSUL> !ask | mmav
[20:33] <sebsebseb> !ask |  mmav
[20:34] <Mainstay> at: xandros, it's easy to restore to factory.
[20:34] <mmav> haha
[20:34] <mmav> okay
[20:34] <at> well there is eeebuntu and ubuntu netbook remix etc
[20:34] <mmav> well, my little brother messed up his Ubuntu install with lots of eyecandy and stuff
[20:34] <at> okay im gonna check out xandros
[20:34] <starcannon> Mainstay: he asked for an ubuntu solution, xandros does not fit the request(and those of us who have eee pc's know why we don't like the default distro)
[20:34] <dAlfa89_> at, eeebuntu netbook remix?
[20:35] <at> yes
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !details |  mmav
[20:35] <at> mh
[20:35] <Leoneof``> any help??????????????????????????????????????
[20:35] <mmav> yeah on the way
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !patience |  Leoneof``
[20:35] <mMezquitale> mmav, disable compiz, thatll be a cookie milk and a hug please
[20:35] <Leoneof``> >_>
[20:35] <lazydays> BYE
[20:36] <starcannon> at : join private chat, I'll help ya out with the eee
[20:36] <Leoneof``> 1500 and no body can say ask? O_o
[20:36] <mmav> mMezquitale: I can't even access compiz
[20:36] <glphvgacs> hi, i have 2 machines connected via Ethernet. running arp doesn't help; how do they find each other? BTW On one of them I run ifconfig but I don't see any inet addr; there is only inet6. Is that normal?
[20:36] <Spidler> Can someone help me debug an issue that's driving me nuts?  I don't get global keypresses or mouse events, mouse only responds to the panel, nothing else is interactable with the mouse, alt+tab doesn't work, no other keybinds work.
[20:36] <jcrawford> mMezquitale, wow you didn't even ask if it were a dude or a chick before asking for that hug, kinda concerned for you :)
[20:36] <jcrawford> alright enough from me i have to get back to work :)
[20:36] <guntbert> !ot | jcrawford please
[20:36] <Mainstay> starcannon:ok ur right.
[20:37] <mmav> and lots of other stuff like tint2, and some launchy application, and I want to revert back to default. I'm also curious whether a linux partition can mess with the laptop's touch pad settings/functionality, because it's not working anymore in Linux OR Windows.
[20:37] <DarwinSurvivor> damn, re-modprobed all ath5k modules and wireless STILL dead after suspend :(
[20:37] <jcrawford> oh and cookie, milk and hug is OT?
[20:37] <mMezquitale> jcrawford, what's so wrong with a hug from a guy or gal?  As long as no kissing is involved, in my culture hugging is acceptable social behavior
[20:37] <jcrawford> s/OT/ON TOPIC
[20:37] <Leoneof``>  so odd with laptop... Gnome-Network-Manager can't detect networks for external wireless (usb) wlan1 , but when i turn ON button for internal wireless wlan0... the wlan1 will work and detect networks , why?
[20:37] <Mainstay> DarwinSurvivor: might be time to re-ask your question
[20:38] <DarwinSurvivor> I can't get my eee 1000HE to connect (or even see) wireless networks after resuming from suspend
[20:38] <isolat3dsh33p> !xinerama
[20:38] <Neremor> hello!
[20:38] <mMezquitale> mmav, you can start from there, tell us what you are able to do and people will help you,  what are you able to see? can you access a console by pressing "CTRL-ALT-F1", pressing "CTRL-ALT-F7" will bring you back to the GUI portion of ubuntu
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Neremor: Hello!
[20:38] <DarwinSurvivor> I have tried modprobing ath5k, mac80211, led_class, ath, cfg80211 with no luck
[20:38] <edoceo-fluorine_> How do I get imagemagick-dev stuffs?  I need magic.h but it's not in the imagemagick package
[20:39] <Spidler> edoceo-fluorine_: try "apt-cache provides magic.h"
[20:39] <mmav> mMezquitale: I can access both, I just discovered that I can navigate through the system settings and whatnot by pressing the Windows key
[20:39] <edoceo-fluorine_> invalid operation provides
[20:39] <romeus> Ever since I've upgraded to Karmic, Java applets don't work in Firefox 3.5. I've manually installed JRE 1.6.0.17 (http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java) and I get the following error when I run Firefox LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_17/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_17/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: cannot open shared object file: Permissio
[20:39] <romeus> n denied]
[20:39] <mmav> mMezquitale: I'm trying to restore Linux back to the default settings, is there a way to do this?
[20:39] <erUSUL> !find magic.h
[20:40] <sebsebseb> romeus: you did sun-java6-jre ?
[20:40] <Spidler> hmm, seems not.
[20:40] <mMezquitale> Spidler, are you using karmic?
[20:40] <Spidler> mMezquitale: yes
[20:40] <romeus> sebsebseb: I tried that first, and then I manually installed it instead
[20:41] <sebsebseb> romeus: maybe a new Firefox profile will help
[20:41] <mMezquitale> Spidler, try logging out, click on your nickname, after you do that you should see some options appear below, make sure keyboard and language is chosen correctly, then enter your password
[20:41] <Neremor> I have a 5.1 system plugged to an 5.1 sound card. I installed pulseaudio and made alsa routing everything to pulse. That is working very well for the front and rear speakers, but the subwoofer and center-speaker aren't working. Now I've found some kind of workaround. I can set the mic-input (where sub and center are plugged into) type via kmixer to "rear-center". because there is no hardware-way to resolve my problem (i tried every
[20:41] <Neremor>  combination), I'm searching for a way to tell pulseaudio, to output everything that is sent to the normal center speaker to the "rear-center" speaker. is that possible? maybe with the default channel map?
[20:41] <sebsebseb> romeus: also if it's installed, it should work in other browsers as well such as Epiphany and Galeon.  sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser by the way if it's just epiphany you get a game
[20:41] <mgv2> ive adblock but the ads are usually there - what can i do?
[20:41] <epifanio> hi All
[20:41] <Spidler> mMezquitale: That will make it work.  This is a problem that only and -always- happens for the first user to start the computer after a reboot.
[20:41] <mMezquitale> mmav, is trying to restore gnome settings to default, anyone knows how to do that using the command line?
[20:41] <edoceo-fluorine_> erUSUL, it's actuall libmagick++-dev
[20:41] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Logging out and in again without touching -anything- solves the problem.
[20:42] <sebsebseb> romeus: well I think Java is like Flash when it comes to the browsers in Ubuntu
[20:42] <fcuk112> how do i uninstall byobu?
[20:42] <Spidler> mMezquitale: What I need to know is how to fix this thing, because this is unusable.
[20:42] <romeus> sebsebseb: I tried to create a new profile, I get the same error LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_17/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/opt/java/32/jre1.6.0_17/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied]
[20:42] <erUSUL> edoceo-fluorine_: ok
[20:42] <bluepuff12> anyone know why one would install kubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3 instead of just using kde 4.3?
[20:42] <epifanio> i'm running Xubuntu 9.10 , at login it don't ask me to choose a language for the session, which package i need to install ?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> romeus: ok well what about Java in both browsers I mentioned or at least one of them Epiphany ?
[20:42] <epifanio> ah! nevermind i find it
[20:42] <epifanio> sorry :-/
[20:43] <mmav> isn't there a "restore to default" option somewhere in Ubuntu?
[20:43] <sebsebseb> mmav: nope
[20:43] <mmav> meh
[20:44] <mMezquitale> Spidler, the first user that logs in needs to look at the keyboard and language settings when you login, make sure youre doing that correctly, after you log in and the keyboard settings are still not correct go to "keyboard" applet and make sure youre using the correct one, it should be USA if you only use english
[20:44] <Leoneof``> any channel for network-manager?
[20:44] <duffydack> mmav, you mean just default gnome settings?
[20:44] <mmav> duffydack: yeah
[20:44] <Spidler> mMezquitale: It's set correctly,   I just realised that keyboard shortcuts work for the panel for the first login, so alt+f2 works, but alt+tab doesn't work.
[20:45] <mmav> the task bar is gone and whatnot
[20:45] <Spidler> mMezquitale: alt+f2   > gnome-keyboard-properties shows the correct (and only) keyboard layout active.
[20:45] <mMezquitale> Spidler, try using the left "alt"
[20:45] <guntbert> fcuk112: in screen F9 for the settings menu? or sudo aptitude remove byobu
[20:45] <Spidler> And I still cannot access anything except the mouse
[20:45] <Spidler> mMezquitale: I can only use left alt, I do not have a right alt
[20:46] <ljpp> Hi guys - I need a linux text editor with Find/word count feature - any ideas? Meaning that within a text file I search for "ABC" and the editor tells me the number of instances. In the Windows worlds Notepad++ does this.
[20:46] <Neremor> ah i found out that i need a way to root the subwoofer to center and the center to the subwoofer... is that possible via pulseaudio?
[20:46] <duffydack> mmav, I cant remember which folder but I read somewhere just deleting a folder (maybe .gnome/.gnome2) and logou/login resets.. better get some verifcation on this tho
[20:46] <bluepuff12> what is the advantage of ubuntu over kde?
[20:46] <nightshade> Does anyone here know about the phillips newvicon video 400 camera?
[20:47] <guntbert> !ot | bluepuff12
[20:47] <sebsebseb> ljpp: hmm not sure about the actsaul text editor, but maybe Abiword is what your after, it's like Microsoft Word, but without all the rubbish
[20:47] <mMezquitale> Spidler, go to "keyboard" applet, go to "layouts",  click on layout options,  go to "key to choose 3rd level option"  if Right Alt is chosen unclick it, if it is not chosen then in "layouts" tab click on "reset to defaults" and try unclickint right alt again
[20:47] <Flannel> bluepuff12: GNOME and KDE are different.  Different people like them for different reasons.  GNOME tends to be simpler with regard to configuration and stuff, while KDE tends to give you more options, and can be more confusing
[20:47] <nightshade> I got it out of someone's garbage, and it doesen't look all that bad.  I just need some info on the pinouts of the cable comin' from it
[20:47] <ljpp> sebsebseb, Ok - have to dig into the features of that one
[20:47] <bluepuff12> k thanks
[20:48] <nightshade> hopefully it doesen't use some kinda proprietary shit, or it'll be a pain.
[20:48] <jussi01> !language | nightshade
[20:48] <zerq> anyone else have issues in 9.10 when moving between several different wifi spots?  Like it will just keep trying to connect, but time out
[20:48] <ljpp> bluepuff12, I have tried OpenSUSE with KDE4.3 and at least the Knetwork manager malfunctioned badly.
[20:48] <guntbert> Flannel: much nicer than me - thx for the example :-)
[20:49] <Spidler> mMezquitale: That still doesn't make windows clickable, and doesn't fix my alt+tab issues.
[20:49] <TIZIM> Hello
[20:49] <zerq> but then you reboot into windows and it connects instantly
[20:49] <TIZIM> Hello?
[20:49] <zerq> and then you reboot into ubuntu again and it works..
[20:49] <TIZIM> I have a question
[20:49] <sebsebseb> ljpp: Open Office  has it's word proccesser and K Office as well,  and I like mentioning Gnumeric with Abiword, so yes there's that for spreadsheets.   Those two are light waight.
[20:49] <nightshade> sorry about my language, but I still expect an answer from someone who can.
[20:49] <zerq> !asktoask
[20:49] <ljpp> sebsebseb, I dont think Office Writer has that
[20:49] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Please listen,   Mouse events only work on the panel,  if I attempt to click minimize/maximize/close buttons on a window it doesn't work, if I click on the desktop I don't get a right click menu.
[20:49] <Spidler> mMezquitale: if I alt-tab, it doesn't give me a selection,  it doesn't even attempt to switch things.
[20:50] <Neremor> could no one give me a tipp, please?
[20:50] <TIZIM> Hello I have a question
[20:50] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Clicks work on the panel, I can start 14 different terminals if I want, but I cannot swap between them.
[20:50] <TIZIM> about my ubuntu
[20:50] <Pici> !ask | TIZIM
[20:50] <mMezquitale> Spidler, try clicking on "Reset to Defaults" again, click on "Apply System Wide", log back out and log back in again
[20:50] <guntbert> nightshade: please reconsider your attitude
[20:51] <ljpp> sebsebseb, actualy I am beginning to think that neither has abiword
[20:51] <nightshade> sorry, since i need your help, I'll try a more respectful tone.  I apologize
[20:51] <romeus> sebsebseb: tried to install epiphany browser, same problem, no java
[20:51] <Il__Matteo> hi everybody! i want to try ubuntu mobile on my iClone. can anybody lend me a hand? :)
[20:51] <Il__Matteo> !mobile
[20:51] <sebsebseb> ljpp: I am being told that gedit can do it
[20:51] <Spidler> mMezquitale: please LISTEN. I CANNOT click on reset to defaults because I cannot navigate the window with the mouse.
[20:51] <Flannel> nightshade: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not random hardware.  Perhaps ##electronics would be a better place?  Or I'm misunderstanding your question
[20:51] <trism> ljpp: you can do that with vim... :%s/pattern//gn
[20:51] <trism> ljpp: replace pattern with ABC or whatever you want to search for
[20:52] <tech_help> is there a command to tell where the config directory is for things like apache/sendmail?
[20:52] <starcannon> mMezquitale: did you find your checksums?
[20:52] <mMezquitale> Spidler, you can use tab to traverse the options
[20:52] <TIZIM> Okay so I am installing ubuntu on my computer and currently I have Windows XP Pro on it, And I want to run both. My friend installed ubuntu and and he has a 15gb drive for xp, 15gb for ubuntu and a shared drive, so I want to keep my xp not reformat it. Who knows how I can do that in the installation?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ljpp: gedit and then   tools > document statistics
[20:52] <ljpp> trism, I'd need a GUI solution - I need to copypaste a chart from website, and count some items. A hockey season table to be more exact, for betting in fantasy league
[20:52] <zerq> going to reboot into ubuntu and hopefully wifi will "magically" start working again -_-
[20:52] <mMezquitale> starcannon, yes, even tried the USB thumb drive, works like a charm!!!!!!!!!
[20:52] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Reset to defaults isn't selectable still, there is only a single keyboard layout available.
[20:52] <erUSUL> !dualboot | TIZIM
[20:52] <starcannon> great
[20:52] <trism> ljpp: there is gvim, which is the gui version of vim
[20:52] <sebsebseb> jpds: Gedit is the default text editor with Ubuntu
[20:53] <Flannel> tech_help: Config stuffs are in /etc, so /etc/apache2 for instance.  if you read the manpages (man apache2) it does cover the config files it recongizes also.  Or you could try and find them via dpkg (dpkg -l | grep etc)
[20:53] <TIZIM> I dont have a mac
[20:53] <sebsebseb> romeus: that's after an upgrade from 9.04?
[20:53] <TIZIM> It suggested a mac forum
[20:53] <romeus> sebsebseb: yes
[20:53] <sebsebseb> romeus: it worked fine in 9.04?
[20:53] <romeus> yes
[20:53] <ljpp> sebsebseb, I am not looking for a total wordcount but number of times a word, say "abc" appears in a document
[20:53] <mMezquitale> Spidler,  there should be only one Layout available "USA", can you click on "Layout Options"
[20:54] <starcannon> TIZIM: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm and you'll be using the partition editor to resize the partitions, BACKUP important data before even thinking of doing this stuff though; else, wailing and gnashing of teeth WILL occur. GL
[20:54] <TIZIM> okay ill see this
[20:54] <romeus> sebsebseb: yes :)
[20:54] <romeus> sebsebseb: it used to work on 9.04
[20:54] <guntbert> tech_help: usually all under /etc/,  like /etc/apache2 ...
[20:54] <Spidler> mMezquitale: It's a bit hard cause I cannot swap between the IRC and the keyboard properties,  scrolling in the channel makes directions disappear, and I cannot scroll back without closing the keyboard applet.
[20:54] <lava|sleeping> Is there a way to run both my windows and Ubuntu Server at the same time
[20:54] <orangepnut> I'm trying to install metasploit and the instructions tell me to do: tar xf framework-3.1.1.tar.bz2 in the terminal but I get the error: no such file or directory and I have the package downloaded on my desktop, I'm new to linux by the way
[20:55] <sami> çäÇ
[20:55] <sami> åÑÍÈÇ
[20:55] <TIZIM> starcannon the link u sent me does not work
[20:55] <sebsebseb> romeus: maybe there's another way, but I guess a clean install of Ubuntu will sort it out
[20:55] <Spidler> mMezquitale: The only selection available per default is Swedish,   I'll see about adding another and switching
[20:55] <TIZIM> starcannon
[20:55] <spridel> what editor do you use for web pages?
[20:55] <erUSUL> lava|sleeping: run one of the two in a virtual machine
[20:55] <erUSUL> !html | spridel
[20:55] <zerq> Yep, reboot and it instantly connects to the new open wifi network.. so weird.
[20:55] <mMezquitale> Spidler, so youre using another language besides english?
[20:55] <zerq> Until I rebooted it would just time out on the dhcp over and over.. any ideas?
[20:56] <TIZIM> HEllo
[20:56] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Yes.
[20:56] <zerq> reboot to windows, connects isntantly, reboot to ubuntu, connects instantly
[20:56] <spridel> ty erUSUL
[20:56] <h3killa> Hello
[20:56] <starcannon> TIZIM: trying again http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm
[20:56] <Spidler> mMezquitale: And please, the main problem isn't alt-tab, it's the fact that the mouse will not interact with anything except the panel icons.
[20:56] <lava|sleeping> that is in ubuntu install or is that xtra software ericm-Zzz
[20:56] <TIZIM> thankyou it works
[20:56] <Spidler> mMezquitale: I cannot select another window to be on top, only the panel is ever recieving mouse input
[20:57] <Samuli^> with HD 5770 and installing the catalyst drivers from ubuntu repository I'm getting a "Unsupported hardware" 'nag screen' at the bottom right corner
[20:57] <skyl> how's pidgin with gtalk?
[20:57] <skyl> any better ideas for gtalk with linux?
[20:57] <skyl> !IM
[20:57] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is there any way I could restart my sound driver so that I don't need to go to the sound preferences everytime I plug in a headphone or plug it out after?
[20:57] <starcannon> TIZIM: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ is a great resource, it is also the partition editor that Ubuntu uses if I am not mistaken
[20:57] <mMezquitale> Spidler, sorry I do not know what happens when you choose swedish, a lot of stuff probably changes, the problem might be related but I am not sure, you might want to ask someone who uses swedish language or try the forum
[20:57] <skyl> !Kopete
[20:57] <LMJ> !empathy ;)
[20:57] <TIZIM> okay thankyou
[20:58] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Have you tried to navigate the forum without a mouse?
[20:58] <wubuntu> Is there a site or package for finding new panel items to customise panels ?
[20:58] <starcannon> TIZIM: one last thing... BACKUP YOUR DATA before proceeding :)
[20:58] <Spidler> mMezquitale: Let me just state that the forums tab-order leaves a lot to be asked ofr.
[20:58] <TIZIM> okay
[20:58] <TIZIM> thank you
[20:59] <ljpp> crap....gvim doesnt cut it either
[20:59] <trism> ljpp: what doesn't work?
[20:59] <mMezquitale> Spidler, yes I have, a little cumbersome but it is possible, you can use the tab to traverse a whole page, I didnt use a mouse for quite some time, just keep asking and eventually someone will be able to help you
[20:59] <ljpp> trism, I need to count specific words from a material I copypaste from web
[21:00] <h3killa> Is it possiable to install the entirety of Ubuntu onto an external USB Hardedriver and Duel boot?
[21:00] <ljpp> trism, Notepad++ does in for win32, so looking for similar advanced editor
[21:00] <sebsebseb> h3killa: yes
[21:00] <TIZIM> starcannon
[21:00] <Spidler> mMezquitale:  shouldn't xev be able to tell me if a keypress is directed to the window or not?
[21:00] <TIZIM> the link
[21:00] <TIZIM> it says how to partition
[21:00] <h3killa> Ok thank you sebsebseb
[21:00] <TIZIM> so u have ubuntu and xp
[21:00] <starcannon> ljpp copy paste the material into a new Open Office document, run the word count on just that material
[21:00] <sebsebseb> h3killa: might run a bit slower from one though I think
[21:00] <TIZIM> but wat about a shared drive
[21:01] <sebsebseb> h3killa: also if you then try and use it on more than one computer, you may get issues
[21:01] <h3killa> Its USB 2.0 so It shouldn't be too badly effected.
[21:01] <ljpp> starcannon, not the total word count - the number of word "abc" appears in the material
[21:01] <mMezquitale> Spidler, yes, you can run xev and take it from there
[21:01] <starcannon> ljpp hang on I'ma let you finish, but first lemme take a look, it's been awhile since I wrote a paper, brb
[21:01] <mrs> I need someones help, Last night i deleted the bar at the bottom of the screen that when you have anything open it shows it, and you can change screens. And i really want it back please.. can someone help
[21:02] <Spidler> mm
[21:02] <starcannon> TIZIM: open a PM with me, I'll brb
[21:02] <Spidler> Seems xev does get -sent- the alt keycode
[21:02] <sebsebseb> rml_: the desktops?
[21:02] <Spidler> and the tab
[21:02] <alex__> hallo!..is it a italian channel?
[21:02] <ljpp> starcannon, hm..lets see what Kate has to offer
[21:02] <trism> ljpp: yeah, you said that, :%s/words you want to search for//gn will print it in the status area, for example, I search for :%s/expression//gn in my current document and get 25 matches on 23 lines
[21:02] <TIZIM> okay
[21:02] <TIZIM> how do i do that
[21:02] <Spidler> But nothing in between responds to it
[21:02] <sebsebseb> !it | alex__
[21:02] <bthornton> I'm sitting here using my Ubuntu 9.10 machine in Gnome and out of nowhere, all of my windows seem to change to a default/unthemed GTK theme. I'm guessing something died, but what (and why)?
[21:02] <Samuli^> mrs, click on the top bar and "add panel"
[21:02] <Spidler> however, no mouse events are directed to xev.
[21:02] <alex__> ciao
[21:02] <ubuddies> ciao
[21:02] <alex__> someone read me?
[21:03] <ubuddies>  /msg StArGaTe|DvD|001 XDCC SEND #11
[21:03] <Samuli^> mrs, right click, that is
[21:03] <shmok> grub2 problem! kubuntu + xubuntu on lvm: cannot boot kubuntu after installing xubuntu (both encrypted, ext 4) lvm has 3 logical part. /boot (ext 3 not encrypted) /kubuntu /xubuntu/. I think my error was to install xubuntu's grub to /boot... I can chroot to kubuntu. Is there any way to make grub recognize both operating systems?
[21:03] <Spidler> bthornton: check ~/.xsession-errors for what broke,  and most probably gnome-settings-daemon was destroyed.
[21:03] <dupondje> somebody knows a proxy for news servers ? Cause I want to make a server that everybody in the internal network to, so I don't need to give out the password of the external server
[21:03] <Samuli^> mrs, and New panel, not add panel
[21:03] <bthornton> Spidler: Thanks!
[21:03] <RenatoSilva> what could make sudo gconf-editor not work (not save the changes), when it was working normally a few minutes ago?
[21:04] <h3killa> sebsebseb: Is it possiable to install Grub onto the main drive and Ubuntu onto the USB HDD?
[21:04] <TIZIM> how can i private chat with you starcannon
[21:04] <sebsebseb> h3killa: of course
[21:04] <TIZIM> ?
[21:04] <sebsebseb> !pm
[21:04] <bthornton> Spidler: And you were right about what died...
[21:04] <TIZIM> How can I private chat?
[21:05] <Spidler> bthornton: ok,  oomkiller, or something farked?  I haven't seen it fall out in years myself.
[21:05] <dAlfa89_> RenatoSilva, it's advised to use gksu instead of sudo for GUI-based applications, just saying (:
[21:05] <TIZIM> How can I private chat? Any1?
[21:05] <sebsebseb> h3killa: really Ubuntu should be your main OS though, not Windows :)
[21:05] <bthornton> Spidler: You need to install 9.10. :)  You'll see lots of things fail that didn't used to fail....
[21:05] <Spidler> TIZIM: ./query <person> is usually the way.
[21:05] <Samuli^> RenatoSilva, are you supposed to run gconf as root? It would save the settings for root account and not yours if they are user spesific.
[21:05] <erUSUL> TIZIM: /msg nick message
[21:05] <guntbert> TIZIM: type /msg starcannon hi (the / must be the first character)
[21:05] <TIZIM> thankyou
[21:06] <Spidler> bthornton: I've noticed.  Currently I cannot get the mouse to interact with anything except for the top panel for the -first- logged in user.
[21:06] <Spidler> bthornton: Second, restarting X, or similar and it all works perfectly.
[21:06] <bthornton> Spidler: "The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error." and later "The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'."
[21:06] <Spidler> but for the first login after a startup, it fails horribly.
[21:06] <erUSUL> !pm | TIZIM
[21:06] <Spidler> bthornton: I'm really starting to mutter obsceneties here as I cannot fathom what the -feck- would cause such an issue.
[21:07] <bthornton> Spidler: Are you running 9.10?
[21:07] <Spidler> Yarr
[21:07] <mrs> Okay, now i had the little things so i could switch to like 3 screens, how can i get that back?
[21:07] <bthornton> Spidler: Bad answer, but I think that's your problem. I'm thinking of going back to 9.01 because of the number of totally unacceptable bugs I've seen in Karmic. :(  What you describe seems to be par for the course...
[21:07] <sebsebseb> rml_: right click on the panel
[21:07] <sebsebseb> rml_: add to panel, and add it back ?
[21:07] <Samuli^> mrs, right click on the bottom bar and "Add to panel"
[21:08] <Samuli^> mrs, from the list choose "workspace switcher"
[21:08] <sebsebseb> bthornton: unacceptatble bugs in Karmic?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> bthornton: such as?
[21:08] <starcannon> ljpp: sorry the only thing I could find was how to count words using Bash, if your interested http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/advanced_bash_scripting_guide/textproc.html
[21:08] <sebsebseb> bthornton: yes there are problems,  but that's what release notes are about and such
[21:08] <mrs> It doesn't look the same lol
[21:09] <mrs> you guys have been so helpful!!!!
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !notes |  bthornton  Spidler
[21:09] <Samuli^> mrs, not in the same place or... ?
[21:09] <Spidler> bthornton:  not the problem I have right now.
[21:09] <Spidler> sebsebseb: I can't open those links because mouse input doesn't work.
[21:10] <bthornton> sebsebseb: ranging from clicking things in Flash objects (in Firefox) not doing anything; clicking buttons in Java windows doesn't do anything (but the keyboard shortcuts work); somebody decided to enable power saving on my sound card driver and so I get random loud pops from my speakers; WIFI cuts out randomly when it never did before, etc, etc,...
[21:10] <mrs> No, its not in the same place, and its a whole different color, also, its only using half the panel
[21:10] <bthornton> GNOME-DO takes 100% CPU randomly at login...
[21:10] <sebsebseb> bthornton: well that's what you get I suppouse for running Ubuntu on hardware that hasn't really been made for Ubuntu
[21:10] <sebsebseb> !hardware | bthornton  Spidler
[21:11] <bthornton> the hardware worked on the past 2 -3 distros of Ubuntu--both my laptop and desktop
[21:11] <sebsebseb> bthornton: as for Flash issues that's Adobe's fault, because it's closed source
[21:11] <sebsebseb> bthornton: oh that kind of issue ah ok
[21:11] <bthornton> and now both laptop and desktop have the same number of problems; only variable that changed was 9.01 --> 9.10
[21:11] <sebsebseb> bthornton: yes there's that,  certain things that used to work in 9.04, don't in 9.10
[21:11] <bthornton> s/9.01/9.04
[21:12] <Samuli^> mrs, weird.. though I don't know why you would want the workspace switcher to use more than ~10% of your panel
[21:12] <sebsebseb> bthornton: put 9.04 on or do another distro,  that should be better for you
[21:12] <bthornton> yeah I know the flash plugin sucks
[21:12] <Spidler> sebsebseb: This isn't ant issue in the factory installed edition,  it's something that came with the upgrades so far.
[21:12] <jsstallard> Hmmm. So is this the place I'd go for some help with installation issues?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> bthornton: I left 9.10,  not, because of  hardware issues though, well I had a little sound issue,  I left, because I didn't like the new features that I actsaully see
[21:13] <mrs> Yeah, its in the middle of the panel and it wont let me drag it anywhere else
[21:13] <Spidler> sebsebseb: I ran the alphas successfully and i've been filing bugs as I fit them, now I need help to actually trace down the source and issue behind this.
[21:13] <Samuli^> yes jesta
[21:13] <Samuli^> jestallard
[21:13] <guntbert> jsstallard: yes
[21:13] <bthornton> sebsebseb: Out of curiosity, what features would those be?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> bthornton: Mandriva 2010 :) that's what I am running now, but  Ubuntu 10.04 should be good since it will be Long Term Support,  and i'll virtual machine that starting with Alpha 1
[21:13] <guntbert> !tab | Samuli^
[21:14] <Samuli^> guntbert, I know.. the tab failed meh!
[21:14] <jsstallard> Ahh. Ok! Hmmm. My installation completely hangs at 0% on the partition. I'm thinking it may have something to do with my harddrive size, but honestly I've no idea what to do.
[21:14] <bthornton> oh yeah two more big gripes: no way to control services graphically anymore, and no way to play back Line-In through the default Gnome mixer. okay I'll stop bitching :)
[21:14] <sebsebseb> bthornton: remember if they aren't LTS,  they are kind of test releases in a way,  LTS is like business quality, and non LTS isn't
[21:14] <mrs> well thank you so much Samuli^!
[21:14] <Samuli^> mrs, right-click on the switcher and untick "lock to panel"
[21:14] <Samuli^> then right-click and move
[21:15] <lorenzo_>  /server irc.oltreirc.net
[21:15] <guntbert> bthornton, sebsebseb this is not a channel for general discussions :-)
[21:15] <Nalf> Is there are command I can use to see what users are assigned to a specific group?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> bthornton: the new boot up,  the new GDM, which is rather fine in Fedora 11 and 12, not Ubuntu 9.10 though.   the new icon theme was ok, but did I need that nah.   Software Centre is ok, but do I need that, nah. etc.   Sofware Centre will become an important part of Ubuntu though :)
[21:15] <sebsebseb> guntbert: I know
[21:16] <skyl> to answer my own question, pidgin is totally righteous right out of the box
[21:16] <Spidler> guntbert: So, any hints on how to debug my problem, since we want to get away from general chatting?
[21:16] <guntbert> Nalf: getent group groupname
[21:16] <Nalf> Thanks!:)
[21:16] <sebsebseb> bthornton: other computer is on 9.04 :)  I don't want 9.10 on there,  but 10.04 in the future of course
[21:16] <zerq> how does pidgin compare to Empathy?
[21:17] <zerq> I don't really use IM much, but I guess ubuntu comes with empathy
[21:17] <darkipod> i'm trying to get Karmic to see my samsung  Rsch-350 phone as a removable storage device using usb but nothing happens when i plug in the phone
[21:17] <bthornton> yeah maybe I should stop being so upgrade-happy and wait for the next LTS. it's just never burned me before with Ubuntu because each release up until now seems to have been a net improvement.
[21:17] <phferrel> Noticed an IGMP v3 report issue on several machines running 9.04/avahi-daemon 0.6.23 and one machine running 9.10/avahi-daemon 0.6.25.  Affected PCs are transmitting two IGMP joins for the same group (224.0.0.251).  One packet is destined to the correct MAC/IP (0100.5e00.0016 / 224.0.0.22) and the other is incorrect (0100.5e00.00fb / 224.0.0.22).  Is there a bug open on this issue?
[21:17] <guntbert> Spidler: sorry - you are not able to use your mouse - right? I couldn't add anything beyond what has been said
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Spidler: oh mouse lap top?
[21:18] <guntbert> zerq: try them both and compare for yourself
[21:18] <sebsebseb> Spidler: there's an issue with touchpads or something
[21:18] <Spidler> guntbert: it moves, it clicks on the -panel-  strace -p `pidof metacity`    shows activity on clicks,   (fd 11, a socket)
[21:18] <Spidler> guntbert: classical mouse.
[21:18] <Spidler> guntbert: if I log out / restart X and log in again, it works perfectly for all issues.
[21:18] <Finnish> How do I find out what IR-controller I have in my laptop and what my remote controller is?
[21:19] <Spidler> guntbert: So I'm assuming that it's a relict fault of either usplash or gdm that propagates forwards.
[21:19] <sebsebseb> darkipod: yeah the features in 9.10 are hardly worth it, if  9.04 is working well for someone
[21:19] <jsstallard> anyone familiar with a problem that causes hanging at the partitioning phase of installation?
[21:19] <Spidler> guntbert: But, how do I track down where the problem happens and how to report it, as of right now all bug reports are going into the void of null.
[21:19] <Arabus> Good evening.
[21:20] <guntbert> Spidler: you know more about that field than I do
[21:20] <darkipod> i have no idea if the phone works in hardly
[21:20] <^workman^> Hi all
[21:20] <sebsebseb> darkipod: messaged you by mistake
[21:20] <sebsebseb> bthornton: see above
[21:20] <darkipod> i have bitpim but it does not see the phone
[21:20] <Samuli^> Finnish, maybe lspci would list that? I don't know.
[21:21] <Spidler> guntbert: That's usually my problem. I've been working on such things previously, how do I get in touch with a maintainer in ubuntu? Seems that all there is on launchpad are trained "triaging" monkeys that just report everything they cannot reproduce as "needinfo" and file into forgetting.
[21:21] <bthornton> sebsebseb: noted. looks like I "fixed it 'till it broke". ah well...
[21:21] <subopt> How do i make my mouse buttons 4 and 5 paste in xterms (and possibly other apps) like button 2 does?
[21:21] <kaski> My internet in Ubuntu is way way slower than it is in Windows. I'm not using wireless and this happens for all browsers and applications. Ubuntu auto-configured my internet for me. Any suggestions?
[21:21] <Finnish> Samuli^: http://pastebin.com/d3ad93728
[21:21] <darkipod> the phone is seen in xp as a removable device
[21:21] <darkipod> as soon as i plug it in
[21:21] <^workman^> kaski: what video card do you have?
[21:22] <darkipod> Karmic does nothing when I plug the phone in
[21:22] <Billiard> darkipod: might have to set your phone to be in usb modem mode
[21:22] <darkipod> by way of usb
[21:22] <Spidler> kaski: check your /etc/resolve.conf , a fair chance is that you're looking up hosts slowly due to either a dud DNS server, or an ipv6 option passed to you that windows ignores
[21:22] <kaski> ^workman^: ATI 4870 HD
[21:22] <jigal> hello when i want to enter mysql command line i get in. but with phpmyadmin i am unable to login. I get all the time access denied. What is going wrong?
[21:22] <Samuli^> Finnish, no idea if one of those is the IR receiver or not. <.<
[21:23] <^workman^> kaski: Read spidler's mesg... check your /etc/resolv.conf file
[21:23] <kaski> im not in ubuntu right now
[21:23] <kaski> but what should i be looking for int he resolv.conf file
[21:23] <Dantonic> !freenx
[21:23] <Valentina> Why does Internet traffic still work when I have done: sudo ufw delete allow 80/tcp ?
[21:23] <puff> Is there any way to force aptitude to install just the package you're asking for, and its dependencies, and not try to finsh any other installs that are hanging around?
[21:23] <^workman^> !resolv.conf
[21:23] <Spidler> Kaksi:  ignore "search" and "domain" lines, look at what the "nameserver" lines say,   try manually using "host <hostname> <dnsserver>"
[21:23] <DrRobino> How can i make my trackpoint mouse working properly, so that I can use it to scroll documents in Ubuntu? Are there an special drivers i need to install?
[21:24] <Billiard> jigal: are you trying to login as root?
[21:24] <Valentina> Using the ufw firewall in Ubuntu.
[21:24] <Dantonic> Hi, is there a freenx irc channel?
[21:24] <darkipod> the phone is set to usb mass storage
[21:24] <Billiard> jigal: are you trying to login from a different machine?
[21:24] <darkipod> still nothing
[21:24] <Spidler> kaksi if one of them are dead, they will be slow responding, and the net will appear slow as a result.
[21:24] <DrRobino> i have a lenove t61p
[21:24] <kaski> sure ill do that when i restart
[21:24] <kaski> thanks
[21:25] <gudge25> hi
[21:25] <darkipod> im lose as to why old a** xp can see the phone but Karmic can't
[21:25] <gudge25> Hey brothers can you help me ---when i want to change MAC ---SIOCSIFHWADDR:Can not assign requested address
[21:26] <^workman^> !help
[21:26] <sebsebseb> darkipod: I think there are some USB issues with Karmic
[21:26] <[3]nertia> Moo
[21:26] <DrRobino> How can i make my trackpoint mouse working properly, so that I can use it to scroll documents in Ubuntu? Are there an special drivers i need to install? i have a lenove t61p
[21:26] <lenswipe> said sebsebseb
[21:26] <lenswipe> said DrRobino
[21:26] <sebsebseb> lenswipe: what?
[21:26] <tgnb_> hi all. i'm new to ubuntu, coming from Gentoo. i installed 9.10 and see that when a samba share is accessed it is also automagically mounted in ~/.gvfs
[21:26] <tgnb_> however after logging out these are no longer mounted. is it possible to have certain shares mounted automatically on login?
[21:26] <lenswipe> said tgnb_
[21:26] <Valentina> Shouldn't UFW stop all Internet traffic when I run this in Terminal: sudo ufw delete allow 80/tcp ?
[21:26] <lenswipe> said Valentina
[21:26] <DrRobino> lenswipe: ??
[21:26] <lenswipe> said DrRobino
[21:26] <[3]nertia> Hrmm
[21:26] <[3]nertia> I had a question
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !ops | lenswipe
[21:27] <lenswipe> said [3]nertia
[21:27] <[3]nertia> But I forgot :(
[21:27] <lenswipe> said [3]nertia
[21:27] <dAlfa89_> DrRobino, he's appending annoying suffixes to peoples sentences
[21:27] <Dantonic> Anyone know if there is an NX server for windows?
[21:27] <Dantonic> freenx that is
[21:28] <jrib> Dantonic: try ##windows?
[21:28] <starcannon> Does anyone know if ntfsprogs is on the LiveCD? In otherwords does the liveCD gparted have the ability to resize an NTFS partition without adding ntfsprogs from the repo?
[21:28] <^workman^> Dantonic: try this -- http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[21:29] <Dantonic> ^workman^, no server for windwos there
[21:29] <ManDay> How can I disable eth0 for good?
[21:29] <ManDay> It keeps coming up
[21:29] <ManDay> And why does every window I open open as maximized by default
[21:30] <i_is_broke> .
[21:30] <i_is_broke> .
[21:30] <starcannon> Can ubuntu livecd resize an ntfs partition without adding ntfsprogs?
[21:30] <sebsebseb> darkipod: It may be worth you trying 9.04
[21:30] <^workman^> starcannon: I don't think so
[21:31] <sebsebseb> darkipod: maybe you did and you upgraded to 9.10 and then got your issue?
[21:31] <kbmaniac> hi, I am trying to mount an ext hdd via /etc/fstab but it keeps mounting as root, root, how can I make it rw to everyone ?
[21:31] <clyderino> I have Grub2 booting to Windows and Mint. How can I add Ubuntu 9.10?
[21:31] <Mainstay> back in school they gave us Hummingbird Xceed to connect to the *nix boxes and run gui apps off the unix boxes. How does one do that in ubuntu. Plusses/minusses to this approach?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | clyderino
[21:32] <jrib> Mainstay: what OS are you connecting with?
[21:32] <^workman^> Mainstay check out http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/
[21:33] <holden_> kbmaniac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Mount%20The%20Drive
[21:33] <kbmaniac> many thanks
[21:33] <Arabus> kbmaniac: you can add the following to your fstab after the filetype(ext) and the dafaults option "umask=022" this should allow rw to group root and other
[21:34] <kbmaniac> cheers
[21:34] <Mickster04> hey can anyone help me with samba?
[21:34] <jrib> kbmaniac: what filesystem is this?
[21:34] <jrib> Mickster04: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[21:34] <Mickster04> ]sorry yeah
[21:35] <dupondje> somebody knows a proxy for news servers ? Cause I want to make a server that everybody in the internal network to, so I don't need to give out the password of the external server
[21:35] <Mainstay> jrib: with ubuntu, to ubuntu, and with windows to ubuntu
[21:35] <jrib> !vnc | Mainstay
[21:35] <JustMozzy> hi guys. I just installed Ubuntu 8. I would like to know how I could change the look ofthe taskbar panel? I tried searching on google but couldn't find anything useful
[21:35] <Ben64> Mickster04: yeah, its no problem, but theres 1500+ people in here, hard to keep track sometimes. Using one line makes it easier to see, and if you ask something, people who know will answer.
[21:35] <grawity> dupondje: I think it's called "running your own server"
[21:36] <jrib> Mainstay: though ubuntu to ubuntu, if you just want to run an app you can just use ssh with X forwarding
[21:36] <dupondje> grawity: ? :)
[21:36] <Mickster04> well, i can log into a samba share with windows, i cant log in, but can access as guest on ubuntu, but when i run smbclient //server/shared is comes back with and error BAD_NETWORK
[21:36] <Mickster04> _NAME
[21:36] <Mainstay> vnc is a remote desktop client which AFAIK hummingbird is not the same thing.
[21:36] <Ben64> dupondje: you could set up sabnzbd, have people upload a nzb file to the server, and have the downloads go to a shared directory
[21:36] <grawity> dupondje: You install a NNTP server yourself. Configure it to fetch posts from whatever you want, and to serve your LAN.
[21:37] <Weems> how do I run a program to bad sectors
[21:37] <^workman^> Mainstay: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[21:37] <grawity> dupondje: Btw, what do you need it for -- discussions or just downloads? :)
[21:37] <Weems> or which program rather
[21:37] <Mainstay> jrib: I've used vnc a lot. But it's not what I'm looking for.
[21:37] <jrib> Mainstay: what are you looking for then?
[21:37] <nvme> is there any command line tool to get a md5 hash for a given string ?
[21:37] <haythem> hy evry body
[21:37] <jrib> nvme: md5sum...
[21:37] <Mainstay> Neither is samba, let me rephrase. I want to forward x apps from an ubuntu box to my local box. Which may be either windows or ubuntu.
[21:37] <grawity> nvme: echo "something" | md5sum -- the simplest way.
[21:37] <dupondje> grawity: but what NNTP server then? Need one that can 'proxy' :) no needs to save a single file imo. And its just for downloads indeed :p
[21:37] <haythem> hy weems
[21:38] <greg_B> folks.
[21:38] <grawity> nvme: use echo -n "something" | md5sum, if you do not want to include the trailing newline.
[21:38] <dupondje> Ben64: can you protect sabnzbd webaccess that people can only add NZB ?
[21:38] <jrib> nvme, grawity: note you may want to pass -n to echo so the newline isn't summed
[21:38] <^workman^> Mainstay: if your using windows, the you need to run a local Xserver like "Xming", then use "putty" with X11 forwarding enabled.
[21:38] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what I'd have to change to prevent every single window popping up in maximized by default?
[21:38] <grawity> nvme: Another way -- run python; import hashlib; print hashlib.md5("foo").hexdigest()
[21:38] <nvme> thanks
[21:38] <grawity> dupondje: I thought all NNTP servers do that.
[21:39] <^workman^> Mainstay: if your using linux to linux, you can run ssh with "ssh -X hostname"
[21:39] <greg_B> here is a curiosity:  when I try to download or open ODT files from webDAV, it fails.
[21:39] <dsadasdas> Hello
[21:39] <greg_B> but if I try and open a DOC file, it works.
[21:39] <greg_B> If I rename the ODT file as a DOC file, it works.
[21:39] <Mainstay> !ming | Mainstay
[21:40] <dupondje> grawity: any recommendations on servers ?
[21:40] <greg_B> so somewhere webdav is discriminating against the ODT file *extension*.
[21:40] <kbmaniac> ext4
[21:40] <greg_B> ideas?
[21:40] <^workman^> greg_B: check out http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/HowToEditWithWebDAV
[21:40] <greg_B> OK, will do.
[21:40] <Mainstay> !xming | Mainstay
[21:41] <f00bar80> i installed debian from usb stick with a bootable debian stable netinstall by UNetbootin, when installation has been completed i got stuck with unbootable installation and an installer on usb stick , any comment ? any way on how to chroot and modify the grub config if thus may fix the issue
[21:42] <sebsebseb> f00bar80: #debian
[21:42] <Ben64> dupondje: dunno, but you can config sabnzbd to auto-download nzbs in a certain folder, so people on your internet network wouldn't ever have to login to sabnzbd
[21:42] <Ben64> internet network = internal network
[21:42] <dupondje> Ben64: oh ok :)
[21:43] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what I'd have to change to prevent every single window popping up in maximized by default?
[21:43] <AlexJones> I really, really wanna see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) but the damn flash player on Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit doesn't work.
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !work | AlexJones
[21:43] <f00bar80> sebsebseb, i tried it but they don't know about this UNetbootin
[21:43] <^workman^> Manday: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600003
[21:43] <AlexJones> sebsebseb, the movie does not appear.
[21:44] <greg_B> ^workman^:  I am not sure that addresses my situation
[21:44] <sebsebseb> AlexJones: how did you install Flash?
[21:44] <ReggyLove> i just installed Ubuntu 9.04 after having 8.10. only thing i need to fix(I think) is the screen resolution i cannot choose 1920x1200(I used it on 8.10) anone know how to fix this. Im running an Inspiron 9400 with a ATI X1400 grapic card.
[21:44] <Bhudda28> Is it possible to get information on my Ubuntu  in stall which keeps rebooting itself  for some reason?
[21:44] <greg_B> I cannot even move files from webdav window to my desktop; I get a file "not found" error.
[21:44] <sebsebseb> ReggyLove: install your garphics card driver?
[21:44] <^workman^> greg_B: this? http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=41455
[21:44] <sebsebseb> graphics card driver
[21:45] <sebsebseb> !ati | ReggyLove
[21:45] <ManDay> ^workman^, I can't disable "Place Windows" - when I untick it the tick reappears a plit second later
[21:45] <sebsebseb> ReggyLove: also maybe there's something available here system > administration > hardware drivers
[21:45] <Mainstay> ^workman^: would I the command you mentioned "ssh -X hostname" on the windows box?
[21:45] <sharperguy> Is it possible to get the gnome icons back?
[21:46] <^workman^> Mainstay: do you have a console based ssh client installed?
[21:46] <Mickster04> well, i can log into a samba share with windows, i cant log in, but can access as guest on ubuntu, but when i run smbclient //server/shared is comes back with and error BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[21:46] <^workman^> ManDay: hmm, then I'm not sure...
[21:46] <sebsebseb> AlexJones: ok uhmm
[21:46] <kernco> Will Qt 4.6 be in Karmic backports, or should we install from a ppa?
[21:46] <AlexJones> ahh, oh jez. My noscript.
[21:46] <sebsebseb> AlexJones: How did you install Flash? try another browser?
[21:46] <greg_B> ^workman^:  I had seen that.  I would love to be able to edit files in the webdav directly, but I'd settle for being able to download a copy.
[21:46] <AlexJones> sebsebseb, my stupidity
[21:46] <AlexJones> The video is showing now! Awesome. Thx
[21:46] <Mainstay> ^workman^: like putty?
[21:47] <nvme> jrib, thanks for that heads up about -n, i was egtting confused why the hash was coming out all weird
[21:47] <^workman^> greg_B: what are the permissions of the file? does the webserver have read access to it?
[21:47] <^workman^> Mainstay: yes
[21:47] <sebsebseb> kernco: QT is what KDE uses so try #kubuntu
[21:47] <greg_B> Note that if i change the extension to DOC, I can suddenly drag and drop the file from WEBDAV to desktop
[21:47] <Mainstay> ^workman^: yep.
[21:47] <racecar56> what are some things i can try to make booting in the ubuntu live cd work properly?
[21:48] <greg_B> I would assume so, since i can get it to work by changing the extension, leaving the permissions alone
[21:48] <sebsebseb> racecar56: install graphics card driver onto the CD?
[21:48] <^workman^> Mainstay: http://www.cise.ufl.edu/research/SurfLab/wiki/index.php?title=Set_up_putty_with_X11_forwarding
[21:48] <sebsebseb> racecar56: when it's loaded up?
[21:48] <Mainstay> ^workman^: thx
[21:48] <ManDay> I cannot untick certain modules in compiz settings manager (place windows is one) - when I untick it the tick just reappears - help!
[21:48] <racecar56> sebsebseb: as soon as desktop loads in ~4 seconds the screen blanks, then it does the loading bar screen and repeats for infinite
[21:49] <sebsebseb> racecar56: which version of Ubuntu?
[21:49] <racecar56> sebsebseb: 9.10
[21:49] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i can do an integrity check if you want.,
[21:49] <sebsebseb> racecar56: it could be to do with it, but probably not, but did you check that the ISO you used is a good one
[21:49] <sebsebseb> racecar56: the actsaul ISO that is
[21:49] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i can't burn!
[21:49] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i got the CD from ubuntu
[21:49] <sebsebseb> racecar56: uh?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> oh ok
[21:49] <sebsebseb> the CD should be fine then
[21:50] <racecar56> sebsebseb: my computers won't burn CDs for anything
[21:50] <racecar56> let me do an integrity check
[21:50] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: I have fixed my system, recovery update went well... after it I needed to install my new PSU because I had to less power ;)
[21:51] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: I remember the name, but not the issue
[21:51] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: think better :P
[21:51] <MatBoy> check your logs :P
[21:51] <MatBoy> hehe
[21:51] <zipskiy> hi to all guys
[21:51] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: just remind me?
[21:51] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: 98000gtx+
[21:51] <MatBoy> oops
[21:51] <MatBoy> 9800gtx+
[21:51] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: not sure
[21:52] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: yesterday
[21:52] <MatBoy> flickering login
[21:52] <MatBoy> @ commandline
[21:52] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: and don't want to look at logs right now, but ok good it works whatever it was
[21:52] <greg_B> I am not sure I'm explaining this well enough.
[21:52] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: damn you have a bad memory :) I hope you don't admin system :P
[21:52] <racecar56> sebsebseb: ok it's checking
[21:52] <mikepett> I recently installed a printer driver (for ubuntu 9.10)... apt kept telling me couldn't finish the install because it depended on another package... trying to install other package wouldn't work for some reason...ignored and printer works anyway. But when I try to install new apps it tells me package system is broke and wants to remove my printer drivers.
[21:53] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: I have a good memory usaulley for  things I helped with in here
[21:53] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: well for a bit,  then forget,  I have helped many this year
[21:53] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: use it than :D
[21:53] <racecar56> lol.
[21:53] <MatBoy> hehe indeed
[21:53] <^workman^> greg_B: are you creating OO files and storing them on a server running webdav? Then trying to download them via webdav?
[21:53] <greg_B> yes.  that is the situation.
[21:53] <mikepett> ...can I tell apt to ignore the errors some how? Print drivers are installed and working properly even though apt doesn't think so.
[21:53] <greg_B> I have a bookmark for it under Places.
[21:54] <greg_B> at work, that drive is simply mapped directly.
[21:54] <greg_B> at home, i access the files through webdav
[21:54] <^workman^> greg_B: from home are you also wanting to write to the file?
[21:54] <greg_B> i can access JPG, DOC, PDF files just fine.  ODT files are "not found"
[21:55] <greg_B> it would be sufficient to download a copy, edit it, and send it back to the WebDav
[21:55] <^workman^> greg_B: I bet the mime type of the odt isn't supported, but that's just a guess
[21:55] <Mickster04> well, i can log into a samba share with windows, i cant log in, but can access as guest on ubuntu, but when i run smbclient //server/shared is comes back with and error BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[21:55] <greg_B> OK, what about the fact that the ODT files on my local (Karmic and Jaunty) machines work fine...
[21:56] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I guess you got some hardware issue hmm?
[21:56] <greg_B> are there different MIME definitions for webdav?
[21:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i don't know
[21:56] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I mean if your hardware is good for Ubuntu, the Live CD should work fine :)
[21:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it's still checking
[21:56] <jepster> hi, I want to exclude one file-name from a packprocess. but I get an error: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1511606228 -- has anybody an idea?
[21:56] <^workman^> greg_B: you could try adding "AddType doc/odt .odt" to httpd.conf
[21:57] <greg_B> OK.  I
[21:57] <sebsebseb> racecar56: there's  hardware that's been made and known to work with Ubuntu, and hardware that causes issues,  and it seems that most of the people that come into this channel  have the second type,  because they are also using lap tops.  Desktops tend to work well :)
[21:57] <sebsebseb> !hardware | racecar56
[21:57] <greg_B> OK, I'll search for that file --is  your quote a line to add to the file?  (novice here)
[21:57] <^workman^> greg_B: or  play around and read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_mime.html#addtype
[21:57] <greg_B> Thank you very much, sir.  I appreciate it.
[21:58] <^workman^> greg_B: np... good luck
[21:58] <babele> hi
[21:58] <MatBoy> is there a programs where I can stress a nvidia GPU with ?
[21:58] <babele> anybody using alexandria for book???
[21:58] <^workman^> MatBoy: try http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=486495
[21:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i don't see my computer in that list
[21:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb: :|
[21:59] <sebsebseb> racecar56: most of the people  who acstauly type stuff here, I should have put above,  since loads I never seen type here,  but if to many type at the same time in here,  the channel will become unuseable
[21:59] <JPSman> For some reason the program I wrote isn't writing my stndout to a file with >    And it seems to be just this program too.  Would anyone be a doll and look at it to see why it won't print out?
[21:59] <sebsebseb> racecar56: lap top or desktop?
[21:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb: desktop
[22:00] <MatBoy> ^workman^: thanks
[22:00] <sebsebseb> racecar56: what's the actsaul problem with the CD?
[22:00] <GeekyLink> I'm looking for a program to convert *.wmv files to a more linux friendly format such as *.ogv Any suggestions?
[22:00] <mikepett> any way to make apt ignore unmet dependency problems?
[22:00] <babele> anybody using alexandria for book???
[22:00] <racecar56> sebsebseb: when i start it, in about ~4 seconds it blanks the screen, then a loading bar screen comes up, and then it blanks, and does the loading bar screen again and again for infinite
[22:00] <^workman^> Geekylink: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-convert-quicktime-moviewmv-to-ogg-theora-456051/
[22:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Which graphics card?
[22:01] <greg_B> ^workman^:  what is the filename you suggested I modify?
[22:01] <GeekyLink> ^workman^: thanks
[22:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb: intel of some sort
[22:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ah ha
[22:01] <klappi> GeekyLink: try mencoder or ffmpeg
[22:01] <^workman^> greg_B: /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf
[22:01] <sebsebseb> !intel | racecar56
[22:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i believe it is a intel 82845g-something
[22:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb: hey, what the bricks? that's 9.04!
[22:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it works fine in 9.04!
[22:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb: this is 9.10!
[22:02] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I thought you said 9.04?
[22:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb: nope.
[22:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i says 9.10
[22:02] <sebsebseb> racecar56: well put 9.04 on then :)  9.10 is hardly worth it anyway
[22:02] <greg_B> thanks again
[22:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb: -_-
[22:02] <^workman^> np
[22:02] <sebsebseb> racecar56: for those with a working 9.04
[22:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb: there is always a solution to a problem.
[22:02] <nvme> why do i have two entries of karmic (kernel ending with 15 , 14) in grub ?
[22:03] <racecar56> sebsebseb: and i don't have to use another version of ubuntu.
[22:03] <sebsebseb> racecar56: also quite a few things that used to work in 9.04, don't in 9.10
[22:03] <vinayan> Hi Guys
[22:03] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i haven't noticed much yet
[22:03] <sebsebseb> racecar56: if you mean you can do another distro, well yes you can :)
[22:03] <bishop_> just stopping by
[22:03] <Cuddles> clear
[22:03] <Mainstay> why was Wink removed from 9.10 synaptec repositories?
[22:03] <Cuddles> !ls
[22:03] <racecar56> Mainstay: it's nonfree
[22:03] <sebsebseb> GeekyLink: mencoder
[22:03] <sebsebseb> !info mencoder
[22:04] <GeekyLink> awesome, lots of choices. Thanks guys
[22:04] <JPSman> Hey everyone.  i'm having problems with a program not > to a file.  can someone look at the file for me?
[22:04] <racecar56> sebsebseb: no, i can't
[22:04] <sebsebseb> GeekyLink: I asked else where and someone said mencoder
[22:04] <racecar56> sebsebseb: my internet is so slow i think it broke
[22:04] <sebsebseb> GeekyLink: yes there are usaully a few programs for the same task, when it comes to Desktop Linux
[22:05] <vinayan> I was using a shell script with dcop function inside it. Recently i migrated to Ubuntu (Gnome) machine. Can any one tell the appropriate package which can be used instead of dcop on a ubuntu machine..
[22:05] <bishop_> ? much diff  between 9.1 and 9.4?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> GeekyLink: it's very much so about choice, from the distros, to the programs that are in the OS
[22:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb: ...but i do have a insane distro collection
[22:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb: ...at one time i did
[22:05] <sebsebseb> bishop_: your on 9.04?
[22:05] <JPSman> bishop_ I would say yes
[22:05] <bishop_> gottago
[22:06] <racecar56> bye
[22:06] <VCoolio> bishop_: it's 9.4 (april) and 9.10 (october), diff especially with clean install: grub 2 and ext4 by default
[22:06] <iceroot> bishop_: 9.04 and 9.10. there biggest difference are grub2 and ext4
[22:06] <sebsebseb> VCoolio: to late they gone
[22:06] <sebsebseb> iceroot: to late they gone
[22:06] <racecar56> VCoolio: 9.4?
[22:06] <racecar56> VCoolio: 9.04.
[22:07] <iceroot> sebsebseb: ignore part,join and so on is a nice feature :)
[22:07] <sebsebseb> iceroot: for some
[22:07] <iceroot> sebsebseb: for this channel, its the best thing :)
[22:07] <sebsebseb> iceroot: ,but for me all that stuff, is part of the #ubuntu experience
[22:08] <sebsebseb> iceroot: you won't see kick messages and such :D
[22:08] <Ginsu> has anyone managed to get Grub2 to skip the countdown yet?
[22:08] <iceroot> sebsebseb: and i am not interessted at them
[22:08] <losha> JPSman: has anyone helped you with your problem?
[22:08] <JPSman> Could someone have a look at my code?  Its not writing out standard out to a file with >  it creates the file but doesn't write anything  http://pastebin.com/d6e44da25
[22:08] <sebsebseb> iceroot: for the logs though, it's good that they don't have all that stuff :)
[22:09] <JPSman> losha: no :OD
[22:09] <Ginsu> can anyone help me config Grub2?
[22:09] <iceroot> sebsebseb: i dont want to log some channels like #debian or #ubuntu, to much junk :) to often the same questions, to often ubottu with the same boring answers
[22:09] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  Ginsu
[22:09] <Ginsu> !grub2
[22:09] <sebsebseb> iceroot: yes I know what you mean, but they log them
[22:09] <Ginsu> I know what the fuck it is
[22:09] <sebsebseb> !language |  Ginsu
[22:10] <sebsebseb> !logs | iceroot
[22:10] <iceroot> Ginsu: cu
[22:10] <Ginsu> .....
[22:10] <Ginsu> ok
[22:10] <Ginsu> I read the article about it
[22:10] <sebsebseb> iceroot: not sure if the Debian channel is, but the main Ubuntu channels and that are
[22:10] <Ginsu> but I still can't get it to skip the countdown
[22:10] <losha> JPSman: I don't see anything that would prevent output to stdout, so my first guess would be that line 56 never gets executed...
[22:11] <trijntje> Ginsu, set timeout to 0
[22:11] <Ginsu> did that
[22:11] <Ginsu> it's like it's ignoring the config file altogether
[22:11] <iceroot> Ginsu: read the article, there is the option
[22:11] <LjL> Ginsu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Where did my Grub2 boot menu go!?!?!
[22:11] <mikepett> trying to install a package like: dpkg - i --ignore-depends=packagename.deb and I'm getting error: dpkg: need an action option. What am I doing wrong here?
[22:12] <iceroot> Ginsu: grep for timeout
[22:12] <LjL> mikepett: you're doing it backwards. the package name must follow "-i"
[22:12] <iceroot> mikepett: -i  not - i
[22:12] <mikepett> LjL: ahhhh... thanks! Figured it was something simple.
[22:12] <racecar56> 9.10 refuses to boot, after the desktop comes up in about 4 seconds or so, it black-screens, then comes up with a loading bar screen and it keeps black-screening and loading bar screening for infinite, what's wrong? i tried all the boot parameters and they don't help
[22:12] <LjL> mikepett: and what he said.
[22:12] <Ginsu> oh, one thing I might mention: the first time I opened /etc/default/grub, it was blank....
[22:12] <dAlfa89_> Where does GRUB keep the information for it's list order?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Grub or Grub 2?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Karmic or Jaunty?
[22:13] <iceroot> Ginsu: also explained in the wiki-link ubottu gave you
[22:13] <iceroot> Ginsu: please read it
[22:13] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb, Grub1, Jaunty
[22:13] <mikepett> LjL: wait... what? :)
[22:13] <Ginsu> ok
[22:13] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: menu.lst you mean?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <iceroot> dAlfa89_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <LjL> mikepett: it's "-i" not "- i", as iceroot said. so dpkg --ignore-depends -i blah.deb
[22:13] <Ginsu> what I'm trying desperately to communicate here is that I've read this very article, and attempted what it suggests....with no success
[22:14] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb, thank you (:
[22:14] <MK13> how can you keep grub2 from showing certain OS's or kernel versions?
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: np
[22:14] <mikepett> LjL: ahhh, thought I had to follow depends with package name... I'll give it a shot
[22:14] <Ginsu> meh, need to reboot back into Karmic
[22:14] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: that one is also known as Grub Legacy by the way
[22:15] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb, I'll keep it in mind
[22:15] <iceroot> dAlfa89_: and grub2 is grub 1.97 :)
[22:15] <mikepett> LjL: doesn't work... says ignore-depends requires a legal package name. '-i' is not;
[22:15] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: ok
[22:15] <bfrederi> So what is the difference between an ACL and the normal user:group permissions?
[22:15] <iceroot> bfrederi: acl can store multiple users
[22:15] <mikepett> LjL: maybe... --ignore-depends=packagename.deb -i packagename.deb?
[22:15] <LjL> mikepett: yes
[22:16] <iceroot> bfrederi: and can be used for using windows-file-permissions
[22:16] <mishoo> "solved" the recordmydesktop audio sync problem!!
[22:16] <iceroot> bfrederi: more groups, groups in groups and so on, see   man getfacl  and man setfacl
[22:16] <^workman^> grats mishoo.
[22:16] <mishoo> I needed to specify "plughw:0,0" for the audio device
[22:16] <seevee> I ran sudo service gdm stop and then startxfce4 - did not give me the desired result, but the issue now is that the screen resolution only allows 800x600 as a maximum. Suggestions?
[22:17] <seevee> I'm running xubuntu 9.04
[22:17] <bfrederi> iceroot: but the acl and the normal file owner methods are completely different from eachother? Is there a way for the normal ownership of files?
[22:17] <bfrederi> iceroot: *is there a name for the normal
[22:17] <bfrederi> sorry.
[22:17] <mikepett> LjL: well, it still didn't ignore the dependency... it ran as if to install but still said error: dependency problems blah blah
[22:17] <iceroot> bfrederi: acl are extended file permissions, they are also called POSIX extended ACLs
[22:18] <mikepett> LjL: any ideas?
[22:18] <iceroot> bfrederi: unix file permission
[22:18] <LjL> mikepett: note that the manpage says: " (actually, checking is performed, but only warnings about conflicts are given, nothing else). "
[22:18] <LjL> mikepett: so the fact itself that it gives you a message is normal
[22:19] <pspfreak> Hey guys. Is there a reason that flash is extremly slow?
[22:19] <mishoo> pspfreak: yeah, we don't have the source code :p
[22:19] <iceroot> bfrederi: you always have normal permissions and if you are using ls and there is a + at the end, its also using POSIX ACLs
[22:19]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( and Macromedia^WAdobe doesn't give a damn on Linux )
[22:20] <MK13> pspfreak, which flash do you use / 64 or 32?
[22:20] <pspfreak> I have a 768MB Ram, 2.5GHZ, and 8MB video
[22:20] <pspfreak> 32 bit
[22:20] <dassouki> for some reason ls -l on my usb devices, claims all access is for root, how can i add myself to the usb groups ? I need it for my virtual box
[22:20] <pspfreak> i got it from package manager
[22:20] <MK13> pspfreak, do you use the actual flash from adobe (non-free) or a different one?
[22:20] <bfrederi> iceroot: cool. so is the acl and the unix file permissions like a couple of indexes that exists somewhere on the filesystem to keep track of all the files' permissions?
[22:20] <mishoo> pspfreak: I have 4GB RAM, 256 MB video, and it still sucks.
[22:20] <iceroot> dassouki: #vbox
[22:20] <pspfreak> no, i mean in the browser like firefox
[22:20] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: Flash in Firefox in Ubuntu can =  right issues,  but if you do it in another browser such as  Epiphany or Galeon you will probably find it works well.  sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser if you do just epiphany it will put on a game
[22:21] <mishoo> (but still 32 bit; I've heard that the 64 bit version is a lot better, but I can't run it)
[22:21] <iceroot> dassouki: you must add your user to vboxusers and relogin, also use vbox-nonfree version, the free version dont support usb
[22:21] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: there's also Gnash and Swfdec as Flash alternatives
[22:21] <iceroot> bfrederi: man stat
[22:21] <pspfreak> is safari good for flash?
[22:21] <dassouki> iceroot:
[22:21] <dassouki> iceroot: done that
[22:21] <iceroot> bfrederi: there you can see how it is stored
[22:21] <MK13> i hate 2 GB RAM, Nvidia 6000M , 64 bit, and flash works ok :)
[22:21] <iceroot> dassouki: #vbox
[22:21] <dassouki> iceroot: they sent me here
[22:21] <dassouki> a few hours ago
[22:21] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: There is no Safari for  Desktop Linux, however the rendering endgine for Safari Webkit  is based on KHTML  what Konqueror uses
[22:22] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: engine above
[22:22] <pspfreak> also, when i'm sitting idle, at least 10% of my cpu is being used up
[22:22] <mikepett> LjL: doesn't appear to be so... it still won't allow me to install anything else.. so get the error saying the two packages must be removed because they have unmet dependcies. aarrrgg
[22:22] <sebsebseb> !browsers | pspfreak
[22:22] <greezmunkey> it's so cool that printing just works :)
[22:22] <LjL> mikepett, even if you tell dpkg to ignore dependencies, APT won't ignore them...
[22:22] <bfrederi> iceroot: thanks!
[22:22] <pspfreak> sorry, i messed up, i meant oprea
[22:22] <LjL> !info equivs | mikepett maybe you should just use this instead?
[22:22] <mikepett> LjL: crap
[22:22] <losha> pspfreak: open a terminal and run 'top' and see what's using the cpu....
[22:22] <pspfreak> ok
[22:23] <LjL> Sm0ke0ut: hi
[22:23] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: ok np
[22:23] <LjL> Sm0ke0ut: when i typed "!info equivs | mikepett maybe you should just use this instead?", that somehow made you send me a private notice. could you disable that?
[22:23] <pspfreak> xorg is using 3.3%
[22:23] <BluesKaj> pspfreak, FF is broken in the sense that it doesn't render some well on some flash intensive sites \
[22:24] <pspfreak> like youtube?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> \some video that is
[22:24] <mishoo> BluesKaj: wait, are you saying that Firefox, and not Flash for Linux, is the issue?
[22:24] <pspfreak> btw, i'm on xubuntu
[22:24] <^workman^> Flash also doesn't work with the GPU of the video card, so performace will take a huge hit until next year when Adobe fixes it.
[22:24] <BluesKaj> mishoo, yes
[22:24] <mikepett> LjL: I'd love to but I don't see any option in Colloquy where that could be configured
[22:24] <Ginsu> !grub2
[22:25] <pspfreak> yeah, I only have a 8MB video card
[22:25] <mishoo> interesting..
[22:25] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: The bot didn't mention it, but you could also run Chromeium  which  Google Chrome is based on.
[22:25] <pspfreak> onboard
[22:25] <Samuli^> only problem I've had with firefox is that it doesn't do antialiasing for images.
[22:25] <BluesKaj> mishoo, try another browser
[22:25] <mikepett> LjL: thanks for the help btw.
[22:25] <LjL> mikepett: uh, not you, Sm0ke0ut did that
[22:25] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: and there's also Chrome for Desktop Linux
[22:25] <BluesKaj> bbl...dinner
[22:25] <mishoo> BluesKaj: the plugin is the same
[22:25] <pspfreak> there is?
[22:25] <mishoo> BluesKaj: it's not FF who renders Flash, it's Flash who renders flash -- I can't see why another browser would help
[22:25] <ddelony> Where's Grub's menu.lst in 9.10?
[22:25] <pspfreak> were can I get that. also xorg is now using about 6
[22:25]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( but WTF, let's try )
[22:26] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: Chromeium being open source :)   Google Chrome not being
[22:26] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: both similar
[22:26] <mishoo> BluesKaj: epiphany should work well?
[22:26] <Samuli^> ddelony, there isn't one in grub2, there is a configuration file for that too, but you're not supposed to edit it directly
[22:26] <Samuli^> !grub2
[22:27] <ddelony> Samuli: So how do I change the default OS?
[22:27] <Samuli^> no?
[22:27] <pspfreak> XORG shot up to about 90 for a secound
[22:27] <pspfreak> while I was just switching windows
[22:27] <Samuli^> ddelony, you need to edit the umm... /etc/something file and update grub after that.. check out the link
[22:27] <mikepett> screw apt... might as well use rpm :P
[22:28] <pspfreak> is that normal?
[22:28] <Samuli^> my experience with rpm's is so bad I never want to endure that again. :D
[22:28] <squircle> !noob | mishoo
[22:28] <ddelony> Samuli: Ah, I see. Thank you.
[22:28] <pspfreak> later.
[22:28] <mikepett> unfortunately, mine is just as bad with apt so it's no difference to me.
[22:29] <Samuli^> mikepett, sorry to hear
[22:29] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: Off topic really, but  I personally think it would be better for most web users to  be using Firefox most of the time :)  since it is the most used after that horrible default browser on Windows, I think you know the one I mean.  well IE8 is an improvement they say.   If enough web users use a decant browser, the web would improve a lot.
[22:29] <mikepett> I'm sure the guys that "know what they are doing" have a preference but have problems with both
[22:29] <mikepett> "I"
[22:29] <mishoo> squidly: err, do you mean WTF as well?
[22:29] <Samuli^> mikepett, what kind of problems?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> !language | mishoo
[22:30] <squircle> mishoo: yeah, acronyms in general (and it's squircle :) )
[22:30] <MrKeuner> hi, me again how can i change the super key system wide?
[22:30] <mishoo> MrKeuner: xmodmap
[22:31] <Samuli^> squircle, how can you talk about linux at all without resorting to acronyms? :)
[22:31]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( I can't help swearing...  my minutes on #ubuntu are limited. )
[22:31] <mikepett> Samuli^: some one was just trying to help, dont' think there's an easy solution: had a package that installed fine but apt thinks it didn't and gave me "unmet dependency error". Package works fine but I can't install anything else because it wants to remove the orignal package that it thinks has unmet dependency
[22:32] <squircle> Samuli^: while WTF is used to describe linux a lot (way too much, in my opinion), it's possible to replace that with other, more useful phrases :)
[22:32] <sebsebseb> squircle: indeed at that
[22:32] <Samuli^> mikepett. did you try just reinstalling the package?
[22:32] <Samuli^> squircle, sure.. I was just talking about acronyms. :P
[22:33] <sebsebseb> squircle: how it can be replaced,  by something better, it only gets used every now and again though
[22:33] <Samuli^> like "GNU"
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: GNU/Linux
[22:33] <mikepett> Samuli^: yes... it's a .deb package, that may be the problem. I installed with dpkg --ignore depends not realizing that dpkg would ignore but apt would still not ignore the dependency issue
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: GNU/Hurd
[22:33] <squircle> Samuli^: yeah, i get it. but WTF/noob, those kind of things are not in general alignment with the language rules (which I don't make)
[22:34] <Samuli^> GNU as in acronym... GNU is Not Unix
[22:34] <mishoo> is there anyone actually running hurd on the planet?
[22:34] <Ginsu> wtf
[22:34] <sebsebseb> !noob |  Samuli^ squircle
[22:34] <Samuli^> just an example that you can't talk about linux without acronyms.. sometimes recursive ones
[22:34] <Ginsu> I hate Grub2
[22:34] <Ginsu> "/etc/default/grub: 7: load_env: not found"
[22:34] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  Ginsu
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: yeah Grub hmm
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: I mean that one I am not a fan
[22:35] <sebsebseb> when something goes wrong with it, so Grub 2 I guess same thing
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  Ginsu
[22:35] <Ginsu> It refuses to let me edit it
[22:35] <Samuli^> sebsebseb, but that doesn't make sense.. why aren't acronyms allowed? Can't you talk about GRUB?
[22:35] <Ginsu> I'VE READ THAT MOTHERFUCKING ARTICLE A DOZEN TIMES
[22:35] <Samuli^> Grand Unified Boot-Loader, huh.
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !language |  Ginsu
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !caps |  Ginsu
[22:35] <zcat[1]> !ohmy | Ginsu
[22:36] <Ginsu> ok
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: it meant those examples,  you can use  GRUB
[22:36]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( !you're-f**ed Ginsu )
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !language > mishoo
[22:36]  * microlith boggles as an SVN repository blows past NTFS's path length limit
[22:36] <Ginsu> so.....I read the article ad nauseum and did exactly as it said
[22:36] <Ginsu> and it doesn't work
[22:36] <mishoo> come on...
[22:36] <LjL> Ginsu: the way to avoid getting yourself !factoided time and again it to expose your problem in the following way: "i want to ..., but when i tried doing ..., by typing ..., what happened was ...". details. otherwise if you just ask about grub2 generically, people will give you the generic answer
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: ok what I am about to do is not helpeful really,  but I like the factoid :)
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !work |  Ginsu
[22:37] <minimec> mikepett: That package should be listed as 'broken package', when working with the synaptic gui. If the software is working, you could 'open' the package with file-roller and change the dependency file manually. That should do it.
[22:37] <Samuli^> mikepett, it's too easy to break the dependencies for sure
[22:37] <thriftwerk> Hi everyone.
[22:37] <LjL> mishoo, the language warning applies to you too (and to c*nsored words too)
[22:37] <Ginsu> I want to disable the countdown timer. I just want it to boot to the default, like I had it on 9.04, but since Grub2 hates me, I can't seem to make that happen
[22:38] <thriftwerk> Does anyone know why a dell laptop running 9.10 would run at 100% all the time and then shut off after about 15 minutes of use?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: Grub Legacy can be installed
[22:38] <LjL> Ginsu: can you pastebin your current /etc/default/grub ?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: ,but should be able to do what you want with Grub 2
[22:38] <Ginsu> wait, wut?
[22:38] <Ginsu> ok, every time I run the update-grub, I get "/etc/default/grub: 7: load_env: not found"
[22:38] <vanduc> hey
[22:39] <xelloss> irc.irchighway.netiiiiiiiiswdfcgvbhjino,k
[22:39] <mishoo> I'd like to say now *** ****, but I'm afraid I'll get banned or something
[22:39] <LjL> Ginsu: can you pastebin your current /etc/default/grub ?
[22:39] <vanduc> I want to make background in ubuntu 9.10
[22:39] <vanduc> but I can't
[22:40] <dstaubsauger1> hi, when trying to fetch mesa from git by doing "git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/mesa/", git starts to count the objects and stops doing anything afterwards. how can i make it townload something?
[22:40] <BluesKaj> grub2 is hard to restore after installing windows .If there's a tutorial how to re-edit grub2 afterwards please point me in the right direction
[22:40] <vanduc> I can't find folder of background
[22:40] <VCoolio> might be offtopic, but I'd be very happy with a link to a bib(la)tex style that refers like "Author, <i>Title</i> (Place, YYYY) pp. Especially the parentheses seem uncommon, at least in the bibliography.
[22:40] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: I am not sure, but  I guess the one for the old Grub will apply for the new Grub, or you do something similar
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !grub |  BluesKaj
[22:41] <^workman^> Ginsu: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 looks like there is still an issue??
[22:41] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  BluesKaj
[22:41] <Myrth> hi, i've installed a package (php5-gd) that was compiled from source package of the same release. but when i do aptitude upgrade, it includes this package as an upgrade. `apt-cache showpkg php5-gd` shows:
[22:41] <Myrth> 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.3 (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[22:41] <Myrth> 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.3 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
[22:41] <Ginsu> http://pastebin.com/m3de2600d
[22:42] <Myrth> anyone has an idea why it wants to upgrade the package?
[22:42] <mishoo> Myrth: because there was a newer version available
[22:42] <LjL> Ginsu: err, that looks like a /boot/grub/grub.cfg, not like an /etc/default/grub...?
[22:42] <mishoo> Myrth: I forgot the exact command, but it's something with dpkg --set-selections
[22:42] <Crewsr3> I have a questions about Empathy - is there a better chatroom for those questions or should I ask away in here?
[22:42] <thriftwerk> Does anyone know why a dell laptop running 9.10 would run at 100% all the time and then shut off after about 15 minutes of use?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Crewsr3: you can ask here
[22:42] <mishoo> Myrth: and you want to put that package on HOLD, so that it doesn't get automatically updated
[22:43] <Myrth> mishoo: how do put it on hold? i found about pinning
[22:43] <racecar56> REMEMBER: Don't edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg!
[22:43] <Myrth> but not sure it's connected
[22:43] <dstaubsauger1> Crewsr3: *ask*! if the question cant be solved here someone will always send you to a better channel
[22:43] <Ginsu> somebody pastebin their /etc/default/grub so I can see wtf it's supposed to look like
[22:43] <racecar56> Ginsu: coming right up
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: Watch your language :)
[22:44] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, pls don't tell ppl do to do that, it's not relavent to ppl who lost grub2 after installing windows
[22:44] <Ginsu> thx
[22:44] <mishoo> Myrth: I *think*: echo "hold your-package-name | dpkg --set-selections"
[22:44] <mishoo> Myrth: I *think*: echo "hold your-package-name" | dpkg --set-selections
[22:44] <VCoolio> Myrth: echo blah hold | dpkg --set-selections
[22:44] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: ok
[22:44] <Crewsr3> sebsebseb, Thanks  So I set up my msn account on Empathy and when I start up the program it says I have a request with the notification.  How do I go in and delete out the request in Empahty...
[22:44] <racecar56> Ginsu: http://pastebin.com/f613f0f01
[22:44] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: well as I said, I wasn't sure
[22:44] <VCoolio> Myrth: so, yes, as root
[22:44] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: thanks though
[22:44] <Leoneof`> anyone can help me about network-manager? o.o
[22:44] <^workman^> Ginsu: have you editing or tried to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then run update-grub
[22:44] <Myrth> thank you :)
[22:45] <mishoo> Myrth: this could hold back packages that your-package-name depends on, too
[22:45] <racecar56> REMEMBER: Don't edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg!
[22:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: maybe you can help  BluesKaj
[22:45] <^workman^> racecar56: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 says you can
[22:45] <racecar56> what the heck
[22:45] <racecar56> i thought they said not to
[22:45] <racecar56> wait
[22:45] <racecar56> DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE This is the main Grub 2 file. It "replaces" Grub Legacy's /boot/grub/menu.lst.  This file contains the Grub menu instructions.  Unlike Grub Legacy's menu.lst file, grub.cfg is NOT MEANT TO BE EDITED!!!
[22:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: yeah the file said not to, last time I looked
[22:45] <^workman^> only the messenger
[22:45] <racecar56> it says that
[22:45] <LjL> ^workman^: please, note also that the page that should be referred to (despite what the bot says) is help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - not the wiki
[22:46] <^workman^> yea, and on the wiki right under that it says you can
[22:46] <racecar56> "Unlike Grub Legacy's menu.lst file, grub.cfg is NOT MEANT TO BE EDITED!!! "
[22:46] <mishoo> !language | racecar56   ("heck", dude)
[22:46] <sebsebseb> LjL: so get them to change the factoid?
[22:46] <Ginsu> is the whole file supposed to be tabbed like that, or is that just pastebin messing up the format?
[22:46] <^workman^> lol sebsebseb: yea...
[22:46] <LjL> sebsebseb: how do you know i haven't?
[22:46] <BluesKaj> racecar56, after installing windows ?..i don't see any fixes there
[22:46] <seevee> I got the answer to the display question.
[22:47] <blindkey>  /Join #ubuntu-br
[22:47] <blindkey>  /Join ubuntu-br
[22:47] <blindkey> afft
[22:47] <LjL> sebsebseb: also, how is "heck" swearing now?
[22:47] <LjL> blindkey: /join #ubuntu-br sin espacio
[22:47] <^workman^> LjL: on the community grub2 site it states you "can" edit the file
[22:47] <LjL> sin espacio initial
[22:47] <blindkey> how change chanel?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> LjL: I don't think I did anything for that, but I could look above
[22:48] <racecar56> the ubuntu forums need a place to put a jabber id!
[22:48] <BottomBitch> !ping
[22:48] <^workman^> under the title "/etc/default/grub"
[22:48] <racecar56> XD
[22:48] <blindkey>  /Join #ubuntu-br
[22:48] <BottomBitch> lul
[22:48] <Leoneof`> any help with laptop? gnome-network-manager is in grey color always and can't detect networks for external usb wireless (wlan1), but when i turn the button ON for internal wireless (wlan0) , network-manager will work and detect networks for both wlan0 and wlan1 O_o
[22:48] <mishoo> BottomBitch: --- Ping reply from BottomBitch : ? second(s)
[22:48] <^workman^> Ginsu: try that instead /etc/default/grub take a look in there...
[22:48]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( that was too fast )
[22:49] <racecar56> blindkey: turn the dial :P
[22:49] <racecar56> blindkey: you just do this: /join #channel
[22:49] <LjL> ^workman^: uhm i don't see where it says that...
[22:49] <linoy> hi
[22:49] <seevee> I would like to remove firefox. I have typed sudo apt-get remove firefox and I have typed sudo apt-get purge firefox, and I have restarted. Firefox is still there. Do I need to remove all the files manually, or is there some documentation that I read?
[22:49] <blindkey> thks
[22:49] <racecar56> hi
[22:49] <blindkey>  /Join #ubuntu-br
[22:49] <^workman^>     *
[22:49] <^workman^>       This configuration file contains information formerly contained in the upper section of GRUB Legacy's menu.lst and items contained on the end of the kernel line. The entries in this file can be edited by a user with administrator (root) privileges and are incorporated into grub.cfg when it is updated. Specific configuration settings are detailed in the Configuring GRUB 2 later in this section.
[22:50] <Leoneof`>  please help me x_x
[22:50] <LjL> blindkey: no espacio ao inicio, antes de /
[22:50] <racecar56> ^workman^: that's talking about another file/.
[22:50] <sebsebseb> LjL: It was mishoo that did that
[22:50] <linoy> how do i remove virtualbox from sun
[22:50] <Ginsu> ok.....seems like it accepted it that time....rebooting for the check....reaching for 9.10 install disc for imminent reinstall
[22:50] <LjL> sebsebseb: oh, right. sorry
[22:51] <racecar56> linoy: what.
[22:51] <elfranne> on my laptop i had a module that showed me a graph with the power cosumption ... is that possible on a workstation ?
[22:52] <Leoneof`>  any help with laptop? gnome-network-manager is in grey color always and can't detect networks for external usb wireless (wlan1), but when i turn the button ON for internal wireless (wlan0) , network-manager will work and detect networks for both wlan0 and wlan1 O_o
[22:52] <sebsebseb> LjL: appologey accepted :)
[22:52] <mihau> hello, i need a good c# programmer :P
[22:52] <LjL> ^workman^: that's talking about /etc/default/grub not /boot/grub/boot.cfg
[22:52] <Crewsr3> sebsebseb, Thanks  So I set up my msn account on Empathy and when I start up the program it says I have a request with the notification.  How do I go in and delete out the request in Empahty
[22:52] <^workman^> LjL: got ya. found that you need to edit /etc/grub.d/"whatever file" then run update-grub =)
[22:52] <ginsu> it didn't work....
[22:52] <drawde> anyone know an easy way to make ubuntu restart by sending it an email? or IM?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Crewsr3: I haven't used Empathy properly yet
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Crewsr3: I like Pidgin :)
[22:53] <LjL> mihau: tried #csharp?
[22:53] <^workman^> ginsu: take a look at /etc/grub.d/
[22:53] <Crewsr3> sebsebseb, thanks
[22:53] <mihau> LjL, nope :P
[22:53] <^workman^> ginsu: once your finished editing run update-grub
[22:53] <LjL> ^workman^: you can also just edit /etc/default/grub - just not /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:53] <LjL> mihau: try that and/or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:54] <^workman^> LjL: correct..
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Crewsr3: also if it's just MSN that your inteersted in, try these,  AMSN, and Kmess
[22:54] <alex87> hey guys, after starting my computer up this morning my screen is shaking uncontrollable up and down. this only happens once linux starts booting. any ideas?
[22:54] <linoy> is there a way to run visual basic on ubuntu
[22:54] <ginsu> I did, and it returned no errors
[22:54] <mihau> tjanks
[22:54] <ginsu> then I rebooted, and it still had the MFing 10 second wait
[22:54] <^workman^> ginsu: but it still didn't work?
[22:54] <seevee> I would like to remove firefox. I have typed sudo apt-get remove firefox and I have typed sudo apt-get purge firefox, and I have restarted. Firefox is still there. Do I need to remove all the files manually, or is there some documentation that I read?
[22:54] <ginsu> yup
[22:54] <^workman^> ginsu: hmm
[22:55] <mishoo> seevee: why would you want to remove the only true web browser that there is for linux?
[22:55] <^workman^> ginsu: what file/s did you edit in /etc/grub.d?
[22:55] <pipegeek> here's an odd question
[22:55] <damagednoob> linoy, which version of vb?
[22:55] <Samuli^> ginsu, you can change that in .../default/grub.. remember to update-grub afterwards
[22:55] <sebsebseb> mishoo: that's not quite true
[22:55] <linoy> 2008
[22:55] <sebsebseb> seevee: what's up with Firefox?
[22:55] <^workman^> ginsu: I only see timeout listed in 00_header and 30_os-prober
[22:55] <sebsebseb> mishoo: in fact that's not true at all
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  mishoo
[22:55] <LjL> seevee: the actual package name is probably "firefox-3.5" or something
[22:56] <sebsebseb> mishoo: plus Chromeium which Google Chrome is based on, and yes you can do Google Chrome as well
[22:56] <LjL> sebsebseb: that's not even all there is, #ubuntu-bots has a longer list :)
[22:56] <damagednoob> linoy, don't think so. the best you could do is sue the mono compiler (http://www.mono-project.com/VisualBasic.NET_support)
[22:56] <ginsu> http://pastebin.com/df46d56f
[22:56] <damagednoob> sue = use
[22:56] <damagednoob> freudian slip there :P
[22:56] <linoy> thanks
[22:56] <sebsebseb> LjL: oh?  you mean if we do in there,  what's the best browser ?
[22:57] <LjL> sebsebseb: yeah, or "list every browser"
[22:57] <mishoo> sebsebseb: I've been doing some crazy AJAX since before the term AJAX was invented, and I'm pretty positive that there is no browser better than Firefox, currently.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok  thanks, and I know the factoid  lacks stuff,  that one should probably be changed now as well
[22:57] <Peppery> Hi there. Is there any way that I can get wget to be quiet unless there's an error (eg: connection interrupted, 404)
[22:57] <^workman^> ginsu: man... I have no idea... strange
[22:57] <jrib> mishoo: "better" is very relative of course
[22:57] <mishoo> chrome is OK, but *slower* if you do massive DOM manipulations; and so is Opera (which for some reason I can't understand they call "the fastest browser on earth").  And so is Konqueror
[22:58] <sebsebseb> seevee: you don't need to pm, we can chat here :)
[22:58] <mishoo> all slower than FF, and have less features
[22:58] <sebsebseb> !pm > seevee
[22:58] <tudon> hello could someone tell me the name of the programm that provides the gui for graphical installment of a single downloaded .deb
[22:58] <LjL> Peppery: seems like "--no-verbose" is the option you're after, judging from the man page
[22:58] <^workman^> !pm > ^workman^
[22:58] <tehdave> tudon - I'm pretty sure that's part of the synaptic GUI programs
[22:58] <losha> tudon: do you mean gebi? You can usually use synaptic...
[22:59] <sebsebseb> LjL: teling the average person that wants help with a browser in here,  to go into the bots room, to find out about browsers, would be a bit sily though really :D
[22:59] <pipegeek> So, I have a dm-crypt/luks /home partition.  This has been fine pre-karmic---usplash would drop to the console when I needed to enter the password on boot, I'd enter it, boot would continue.  Now, however, just after usplash drops to the console, xsplash takes over, robbing me of my chance to enter my luks passphrase
[22:59] <minimec> tudon: gdebi
[22:59] <tudon> but i want it on debian and i have synaptic but not the gui in ubuntu. so i want to know what its named so i can fedge it somewhere
[22:59] <LjL> sebsebseb: in fact i wasn't telling them, i was telling you
[22:59] <sebsebseb> LjL: I know
[22:59] <Peppery> LjL: Tried that, but I want *no* output on a successful download
[22:59] <tudon> ok ttnx
[22:59] <sebsebseb> LjL: I was just saying :)
[22:59] <ginsu_> still doesn't work
[22:59] <tudon> i will check gdebi
[22:59] <Peppery> LjL: I still get "2009-12-02 11:56:49 URL:http://www.google.com/ [6030] -> "index.html.1" [1]"
[22:59] <pipegeek> When I switch back to vt8 and try to enter the passphrase, the passphrase is displayed on the screen after I hit enter (!!)
[23:00] <linoy> is there a way to get java plugin for firefox?
[23:00] <jrib> Peppery: try "quiet"?
[23:00] <minimec> tudon: gdebi-gtk ;)
[23:00] <pipegeek> what's the correct way to set this up under karmic?  This is pretty darned annoying.
[23:00] <Peppery> jrib: I get no output on errors then.
[23:00] <LjL> Peppery: yep, i'm seeing that...
[23:00] <sebsebseb> seevee: so you want to remove FIrefox to free up some space hmm,  becasue you use Seamonkey, well you won't get much space back by doing that
[23:00] <damagednoob> Peppery, what about using -q and checking for the result from the command?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> seevee: also space shoudn't really be an issue with Ubuntu, as long as you set up your partitions properly
[23:01] <^workman^> Linoy: Sun java plugin from app installer on 9.10. I have yet to get it to work with firefox though... =(
[23:01] <VCoolio> tudon: you'll need gdebi-gtk
[23:01] <Peppery> damagednoob: -q doesn't output anything on an error
[23:01] <^workman^> Linoy: running 64bit not 32bit
[23:01] <tehdave> ...anyone ever almost mistake their IRC window for an xterm and try to type a command into it? yeah...almost did that. speaking of Xterm, I suddenly and without warning have had the $ symbol in my xterm replaced by the British Pound symbol, in ALL instances of it.
[23:01] <tudon> ok got it gdebi :)
[23:01] <jrib> tehdave: are you root?
[23:02] <damagednoob> Peppery, yes but would it not be possible to test for the return value from wget?
[23:02] <LjL> Peppery: i don't see an easy way to avoid that. but if you just want to know whether it succeeded or failed at downloading, "echo $?" would tell...
[23:02] <tehdave> jrib - not in the current xterm, and my last sudo command was many hours ago
[23:02] <jrib> tehdave: what does "whoami" return?
[23:02] <seakazam> is there any way to add syntax coloring to cat
[23:02] <sdwrage> Hey all
[23:02] <tehdave> jrib, tehdave...and you know what, I just closed that window and opened a new one and it cleared o.O
[23:03] <sdwrage> whats the best way to install KDE on ubuntu?
[23:03] <Peppery> damagednoob: what do you mean?
[23:03] <maco> sdwrage: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <LjL> !kde | sdwrage
[23:03] <Peppery> LjL: What does that show me?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> sdwrage: sudo apt-get or  aptitude   install  kubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <sdwrage> thought so ok
[23:03] <minimec> sdwrage: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <^workman^> seakazam: The main purpose of cat is to concatenate files. It simply prints out the raw content of a text file. You have to completely rewrite it if you want syntax highlighting (or eventually parse its output, but only when it is used to display the content of the file), but I think the effort is worthless if you have other tools at your disposal, like vim, nano and a lot of GUI editors which support syntax highlighting.
[23:03] <LjL> Peppery: 0 if it succeeded, 1 if it failed
[23:03] <seevee> sebsebseb: Ok. I'm using xubuntu 9.04. The hard drive is 4gb. Firefox seems to take longer to start and use more resources, but maybe I won't gain any space.
[23:03] <LjL> Peppery: well, non-0 if it failed, rather
[23:03] <sebsebseb> seevee: oh right ok
[23:03] <tehdave> jrib - would that somehow get caused by trying to mess around with the prompt environment variable? trying to mess around with it to get a better prompt than "<user>@<system>:<folder>$"
[23:03] <Halu> o/
[23:03] <sebsebseb> seevee: the whole hard drive is only 4GB?
[23:04] <jrib> tehdave: yeah
[23:04] <Peppery> Actually, that's perfect. Thanks, LjL
[23:04] <Halu> anyone using UbuntuStudio?
[23:04] <seevee> sebsebseb: Yes. CF card with IDE adapter.
[23:04] <sebsebseb> !studio |  Halu
[23:04] <sdwrage> getting error when trying to do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:04] <sebsebseb> seevee: oh a netbook yeah?
[23:04] <Halu> !studio
[23:04] <damagednoob> Peppery, something like this: http://efod.se/writings/linuxbook/html/shell-scripts.html#AEN516
[23:04] <Halu> ?_?
[23:04] <Dezent> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/facebook_mafia_wars.jpg
[23:04] <tehdave> jrib - so messing around with the environment variable can change that setting? that's...really odd
[23:04] <LjL> Peppery: to make a choice, you can even just use: if wget blah blah; then echo "this is what happen when it succeeds"; else echo "this is what happens when it fails"; fi
[23:05] <jrib> tehdave: it's part of your prompt
[23:05] <Lingus> hi, can someone tell me how i can copy and paste some files into my etc folder for ubuntu 9.04 please ? keeps saying i dont have permission :/ but i need to paste some firefox settings and a few other things across from a backup i made
[23:05] <Ginsu> it was ignoring the .cfg
[23:05] <seevee> sebsebseb: an embedded mobo in a homemade box.
[23:05] <LjL> !ot | Dezent
[23:05] <Ginsu> it was taking the setting from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:05] <tehdave> jrib - the thing is, it was replaced for _all_ instances of the $ symbol, even when I was typing it in
[23:05] <^workman^> Ginsu: Doh!
[23:05] <Cromag> im trying to find if there are any problems with firefox and sqlite3 when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, problem is that firefox tells that software is updated but the version of SQlite is to old.
[23:05] <Ginsu> cha
[23:05] <Lingus> anyone have any idea ?
[23:05] <seakazam> ^workman^: just wondering, cat is faster
[23:05] <Ginsu> edited that, and now it's all good
[23:05] <sebsebseb> seevee: CF card what's that?  I am thinking Flash memory at the moment
[23:05] <jrib> Lingus: are you sure you don't want to use your ~/.mozilla/ ?
[23:05] <mishoo> Lingus: yes
[23:05] <Dezent> LjL sörry
[23:06] <seevee> sebsebseb: no fans. Yes, flash memory.
[23:06] <Ginsu> boots in about 12 seconds on my 3-year-old MacBook
[23:06] <Lingus> well i made a back up of the mozzilla folder
[23:06] <Eplefisk> How do I shoot web?
[23:06] <mishoo> Lingus: you probably don't wanna do that, as jrib suggests
[23:06] <Lingus> for wen i had to format
[23:06] <Lingus> why not ?
[23:06] <linoy> why does firefox open when i boot up my laptop
[23:06] <LjL> Ginsu: doesn't that mean it is grub 1?
[23:06] <jrib> Lingus: had you made changes to it?
[23:06] <^workman^> Ginsu: now the problem becomes... why is it not reading from grub.cfg?
[23:06] <Ginsu> *how do I shot web
[23:06] <sebsebseb> seevee: Ubuntu Netbook Remix will use  Chromeium instead of Firefox, because it's more light waight.  You can install that into Xubuntu if you want
[23:06] <Lingus> nope i formatted thats all
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !info chromeium
[23:06] <Lingus> running same linux version and firefox version
[23:06] <jrib> Lingus: so no point in replacing it
[23:06] <mishoo> Lingus: why would you mess with system files?
[23:06] <jrib> !who | Lingus
[23:06] <Ginsu> Workman: I don't care, lol
[23:06] <Lingus> i need my bookmarks and stuf back
[23:06] <sebsebseb> seevee: not sure how you would though, not in the repo as far as I know
[23:06] <^workman^> ginsu: =)
[23:06] <Ginsu> I have to be at work in 3 hours, and haven't slept since last I got off work
[23:07] <jrib> Lingus: that's saved in ~/.mozilla not /etc
[23:07] <Ginsu> meh
[23:07] <Lingus> jrib hmm
[23:07] <mishoo> Lingus: then import them, or restore your profile in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[23:07] <sebsebseb> seevee: Google Chrome is based on the oepn source Chromeium and so they are rather similar
[23:07] <Lingus> jrib: so i was told to back up the wrong folder ?
[23:07] <Ginsu> why I can't just use OS X is beyond me.....I got more sleep back then
[23:07] <Ginsu> so I was told you like mudkipz
[23:07] <jrib> Lingus: seems so.  Did you back up your ~ (/home/your_username) ?
[23:07] <Lingus> jrib: yeah i backed that up
[23:07] <tehdave> Ginsu - yeah but OS X isn't fun to play with like Linux is
[23:07] <seevee> sebsebseb: I see.
[23:07] <^workman^> Ginsu: so if you have a mac, why are using linux??
[23:08] <jrib> Lingus: great, then your bookmarks are in there.  Just copy over your old ~/.mozilla
[23:08] <Lingus> ok, ill take a look now
[23:08] <Ginsu> purely experimental
[23:08] <Lingus> jrib: 1 sec please gonna check
[23:08] <^workman^> Ginsu: cool
[23:08] <Ginsu> just to prove I can
[23:08] <Ginsu> I'm tribooting
[23:08] <sdwrage> getting error when trying to do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:08] <seevee> sebsebseb: I've used dillo too, but that seems too limited most of the time.
[23:08] <sdwrage> anyone know what thats about?
[23:08] <^workman^> ginsu: anything is possible with linux... and some time
[23:08] <Leoneof`>  any help with laptop? gnome-network-manager is in grey color always and can't detect networks for external usb wireless (wlan1), but when i turn the button ON for internal wireless (wlan0)...the network-manager will work and detect networks for both wlan0 and wlan1 O_o
[23:08] <sebsebseb> seevee: I tried dllo briefly
[23:08] <O__o> hi, how to do for loop in terminal?
[23:08] <jrib> sdwrage: means you have some other apt process using the database
[23:08] <Ginsu> Snow Leopard/Ubuntu 9.10/XP Black
[23:08] <sebsebseb> seevee: so I think I know what you mean
[23:09] <sdwrage> oh duh.... update manager -_-
[23:09] <cidu_work> jus curious...is there a quick and easy way to set 4 default gateways and load balance them? or failing that round robin them? on a single workstation...not set up a whole pfsense box for it....
[23:09] <^workman^> !wireless
[23:09] <jrib> O__o: google "bash for loop"
[23:09] <O__o> is it for i in {1..8} do command file done; ?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> seevee: ever done a text only browser, now those can be fun :)
[23:09] <Polarina> How do I force the installation of a package without meeting dependencies?
[23:09] <Lingus> jrib: my home folder io backed up doesnt have anything to with firefox inside...
[23:09] <jrib> O__o: for i in {1..8}; do command file; done
[23:09] <O__o> is it for i in {1..8} do command file$i done; ?
[23:09] <O__o> thx
[23:09] <mishoo> Polarina: I think apt-get install --force
[23:09] <Ginsu> what's with your jihad against firefox?
[23:09] <zipskiy> lazylucy: hi
[23:09] <Polarina> mishoo: Thanks.
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: who were you asking?
[23:09] <jrib> Lingus: view -> show hidden file  should show you a ".mozilla" directory
[23:09] <seevee> sebsebseb: I like netrik.
[23:10] <Lingus> ok
[23:10] <sebsebseb> seevee: what's that?
[23:10] <mishoo> Polarina: well, hold on, I might have been wrong.. the man page only mentions --force-yes
[23:10] <Leoneof`> i'm talking to the wall >_>
[23:10] <Ginsu> whoever it is that's dead set on removing it
[23:10] <seevee> sebsebseb: text only browser
[23:10] <mishoo> Polarina: in any case, if there are missing dependencies, why would you install it?
[23:10] <jrib> Lingus: close firefox, delete/rename new .mozilla and replace it with your old one, restart firefox
[23:10] <zipskiy> AlanBell: oo hello again
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: seevee has a good  enough reason to remove it
[23:10] <Polarina> mishoo: I compiled the dependency manually.
[23:10] <Ginsu> which is?
[23:10] <fxfitz> Can someone please tell me how a spyware program appeared on my Ubuntu desktop and how to remove it? Here is the program: http://www.spywarevoid.com/remove-privacy-center-privacycenter-removal.html
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Ginsu: use something else that is more light waight on his hardware
[23:10] <Ginsu> did firefox rape his mother?
[23:11] <Lingus> jrib: no hidden firefox folder here :s
[23:11] <squircle> !language | Ginsu
[23:11] <sebsebseb> !omy |  Ginsu
[23:11] <mishoo> Polarina: that's still asking for trouble...
[23:11] <Ginsu> that's the only viable reason I see
[23:11] <jrib> Lingus: it's not firefox, it's ".mozilla"
[23:11] <sebsebseb> !ohmy |  Ginsu
[23:11] <Lingus> that either
[23:11] <Ginsu> !ohmy
[23:11] <jrib> Lingus: how did you backup your ~?
[23:11] <linoy> is google chrome available for linux?
[23:11] <jrib> linoy: yes
[23:11] <squircle> fxfitz: that spyware can't infect ubuntu, don't worry.
[23:11] <Polarina> mishoo: Well, can you help me?
[23:11] <ChogyDan> linoy: yes, using it
[23:11] <O__o> jrib, doesnt work whats wrong with my code for i in {1..8}; do latex m2-$i.tex; done
[23:11] <Lingus> i just copied the home folder and pasted it to an external drive
[23:11] <fxfitz> squidly, I understand that, but how can I remove it?
[23:11] <coz_> linoy,  yep let me get repo for you
[23:11] <tehdave> is there an easy way to open nautilus as root without a command line? just create a shortcut for it with the custom command "gksudo nautilus"?
[23:12] <jrib> O__o: what doesn't work?  What does it do?
[23:12] <linoy> ok
[23:12] <mishoo> Polarina: you should download the .deb file
[23:12] <pipegeek> looks like I'm experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/434232.  It's wontfix.  How maddening.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> jrib: Do you know how to install chromeium or Google Chrome or well both into  Ubuntu,  it seems seevee would like to know that info
[23:12] <Polarina> mishoo: It depends on a package not in the repository.
[23:12] <O__o> jrib, can't find file `m2-.tex'
[23:12] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: forgot me already again ?
[23:12] <mishoo> Polarina: and do dpkg -i --force-depends package.deb
[23:12] <jrib> sebsebseb, seevee: there is a ppa with google chrome
[23:12] <Polarina> mishoo: Thanks.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> jrib: what about chromeium you know the open source one?
[23:12] <Eraldo> how can I get my microphone to work again under 9.10 > http://pastebin.org/59452
[23:13] <squircle> pipegeek: it's only wontfix for karmic, but it still may be fixed in the cryptsetup package itself, don't worry :)
[23:13] <sebsebseb> MatBoy: not yet
[23:13] <jrib> sebsebseb: don't know
[23:13] <MatBoy> sebsebseb: that is good... it's my target in life :P
[23:13] <mishoo> Polarina: or dpkg -i package.deb --force-all ("all" removes all error conditions and installs the package anyway)
[23:13] <sebsebseb> jrib: well  the Ubuntu Netbook Remix  for 10.04 will have chromeium instead of Firefox
[23:13] <jrib> sebsebseb: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:13] <pipegeek> :)
[23:14] <linoy> how can you get google chrome for linux?
[23:14] <pipegeek> a man can dream
[23:14] <coz_> linoy,   I think this one works   http://digitizor.com/2009/11/06/how-to-install-chromium-browser-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[23:14] <sebsebseb> jrib: ok :)
[23:14] <sebsebseb> seevee: there you go if you want to try that one
[23:14] <sebsebseb> jrib: ty
[23:14] <^workman^> linoy: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:14] <sebsebseb> linoy: see above
[23:14] <FloodBot5> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <jrib> O__o: pastebin please your command and full output while I start a bash shell...
[23:14] <kostkon> Eraldo, did you try to set it in your sound prefs?
[23:14] <tehdave> ubuntu 9.10 isn't an LTS version is it? if not, when's the next LTS? I'm still running 8.04 personally
[23:14] <linoy> thanks
[23:14] <sebsebseb> tehdave: 10.04
[23:14] <kostkon> !lts | tehdave
[23:15]  * pipegeek does sudo apt-get purge xsplash
[23:15] <sebsebseb> tehdave: you can upgrade directly to it when it's time for 8.04, however you won't get Ext4 or Grub 2 on upgrade
[23:15] <seevee> sebsebseb, jrib: Awesome. Thanks.
[23:15] <tehdave> sebsebseb, kostkon : thanks
[23:15] <sebsebseb> tehdave: from not for above
[23:15] <Eraldo> kostkon: yeah I did try out all the settings but I either got some sort of signal coupled with strange sound output or okay sound output with no capture at all
[23:15] <sebsebseb> tehdave: np
[23:16] <tehdave> sebsebseb, I was planning on taking a snapshot of my packages, backing up important files, and just doing a fresh install.
[23:16] <Eraldo> kostkon: maybe you could help me find the right settings
[23:16] <O__o> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m7fa1241a
[23:16] <sebsebseb> seevee: np
[23:16] <sebsebseb> tehdave: sure do that then
[23:16] <kostkon> Eraldo, eh, what options do you have available in the input tab?
[23:16] <jrib> O__o: you want ${i}t
[23:16] <kostkon> Eraldo, select the appropriate device and connector for example
[23:16] <O__o> jrib, ok i try that
[23:16] <Eraldo> kostkon: depends on what profile I chose
[23:16] <tehdave> !ext45
[23:16] <tehdave> !ext4
[23:17] <sebsebseb> tehdave: yep 10.04 will be a good one for you to clean install
[23:17] <kostkon> Eraldo, then, did oyu try all the possible combos?
[23:17] <jrib> O__o: do your files end in 't' before the '.'?
[23:17] <tehdave> !ext4 > tehdave
[23:17] <O__o> jrib, thx
[23:17] <jrib> O__o: like an example file is: math2-1t.tex or math2-1.tex?
[23:17] <O__o> jrib, yes ends in t
[23:17] <mark__> I've just added a harddrive to my ubuntu-server box, its listed  as sda* (1-5) I want to wipe it. FDISK says it can't access it?
[23:17] <jrib> O__o: k
[23:17] <sebsebseb> tehdave: after checking your ISO, well a torrent will be ok. I like adding additional info.
[23:17] <minimec> tehdave: I would do a fresh install either... ;) Jumping from 8.04 to 10.4 means new grub, new xorg, hal-> device kit, pulseaudio and so on ... ;)
[23:17] <new_nick> hmm cant find the setting on firefox now to import profiles lol >.<
[23:17] <mark__> sorry, sdb1*
[23:17] <Eraldo> kostkon: I did try out both Microphone 1 and 2 in the Input tab but get no signal ...it did work in the previous Ubuntu version however
[23:17] <jrib> O__o: before it was looking for the $it variable
[23:17]  * tehdave glares at ubottu. "Making me go to google to look up the differences..."
[23:17] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > tehdave
[23:17] <kostkon> Eraldo, another thing you could try is to check your hardware volume levels. try installing gnome-alsamixer, for example
[23:18] <O__o> jrib, ok
[23:18] <sebsebseb> tehdave: 10.04 is not out yet, and I can rip apart the releases since 8.04 and say what is good and bad about them, I don't mind doing that in pm, if you really want me to
[23:18] <kostkon> Eraldo, then, definitely, you need to check the levels of your inputs in gnome-alsamixer
[23:18] <mishoo> mark__: do you run fdisk as root?  (sorry if this sounds stupid, but I had to ask..)
[23:19] <mark__> mishoo : yes, I sudo'd it.
[23:19] <^workman^> mishoo: oh man, I would hope not
[23:19] <racecar56> O__o o__O
[23:19] <alaqsory> HI ALL
[23:19] <racecar56> :P
[23:19] <racecar56> hi
[23:19] <^workman^> hi
[23:19] <Eraldo> kostkon: will that possibly conflict with PulseAudio?
[23:19] <tehdave> sebsebseb, Nah, I got my current system running just fine, really don't feel like jumping around the short-term releases (Incremental? non-LTS, whatever), planning on just updating with the LTS releases as they come (Every 2 years, it seems. I bet they actually have a real schedule but I never bothered to check)
[23:19] <kostkon> Eraldo, no, don;t worry ;)
[23:19] <kostkon> Eraldo, pulseaudio sits on top of alsa
[23:20] <sebsebseb> tehdave: yes 10.04 and then the next one will be 12.04
[23:20] <sebsebseb> tehdave: unless delayed or something, you know like the first LTS,  or haven't you been using Ubuntu for long enough?
[23:20] <mr_mustard> what is ubuntu's tool for managing system services, starting, stopping, etc?
[23:20] <Eraldo> kostkon: okay... thank's for explaining that
[23:20] <alaqsory> I am using ubuntu 9.04, after updating it, the net do not work>
[23:20] <Eraldo> kostkon: An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for GNOME ALSA Mixer. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[23:21] <tehdave> sebsebseb, I started with...erm...7.04 IIRC. Gave up on Windows when my Rundll32 file got corrupted and there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. Never going back, as far as my desktop is concerned.
[23:21] <alaqsory> any one see my problem
[23:21] <Eraldo> kostkon: http://pastebin.org/59456
[23:21] <alaqsory> I am using ubuntu 9.04, after updating it, the net do not work.
[23:21] <somalier1> I need help figuring out what I did wrong when forwarding ports for Transmission. I sat my IP manually in gnome NM, dns, gateway and netmask is correctly in my router, saved settings and restarted it. Still, transmission tells me that port is CLOSED. Have I missed something?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> tehdave: ok :)
[23:21] <mishoo> alaqsory: we've read what you say, but in the absence of more detail we can't help you out
[23:21] <minimec> alaqsory: what does that mean? wifi ethernet? Did you reboot your machine?
[23:22]  * mishoo thinks ..oO( oh, how I managed to avoid the F word again.. )
[23:22] <kostkon> Eraldo, does it load?
[23:22] <Eraldo> kostkon: yeah... but with that error
[23:22] <ChogyDan> somalier1: are you behind a router?
[23:22] <somalier1> ChogyDan: Yep
[23:22] <kostkon> Eraldo, ok. ignore it for the moment
[23:22] <alaqsory> ethernet, after rebooting the machine the ethernet do not work, and excuse me i am not good in english
[23:23] <mishoo> alaqsory: any errors pop up?
[23:23] <alaqsory> no
[23:23] <ChogyDan> somalier1: usually there is a function in the router to forward ports
[23:23] <mark__> mishoo : It's displaying in FDISK, lists all the partitions, I just want to clear it.
[23:23] <mr_mustard> at least, what package should I install to get system services tools? there is no system - administration - services link in my 9.10 install
[23:23] <somalier1> ChogyDan: Yep, done.
[23:23] <minimec> alaqsory: can you open a terminal and do ifconfig? there should be something for eth0...
[23:23] <new_nick> can someone tell me how i can just paste some files into my etc folder please ?
[23:23] <alaqsory> and when i logged in with live cd the ethernet is working good
[23:23] <somalier1> ChogyDan: I'm thinking it's something in my dist that's wrong. My settings that is
[23:24] <new_nick> anyone ?
[23:24] <ChogyDan> somalier1: yeah, I dunno.  Maybe its the firewall/iptables thing
[23:24] <alaqsory> minimec: I am now on windows
[23:25] <somalier1> ChogyDan: Come on, do I have to tough iptables? ,_,  That's just comfuzing
[23:25] <somalier1> confusing lol
[23:26] <alaqsory> minimec: will log into ubuntu then come again to windows to give you the result of ifconfig
[23:26] <minimec> alaqsory: ok. Good idea ;)
[23:26] <mishoo> :)
[23:26] <slide> I have a laptop where the screen is dead and Im trying to install Ubuntu on it using my LCD HDTV, whenever i boot up with the livecd though all i get once gnome is loaded (i can hear the intro sound) is a blinking Purple light/dark screen with what appears to be fragments of other colors. is there anyway to fix this so I can install it? or can I install it via the command line?
[23:27] <klappi> @slide: try the alternate install cd
[23:27] <slide> hrm k
[23:27] <slide> on to cd #4 hah
[23:28] <klappi> @slide: afaik ist has a cli install mode
[23:30] <Eraldo> kostkon: http://tmp.eraldo.at/Screenshot-GNOME ALSA Mixer.png
[23:30] <Eraldo> kostkon: http://eraldo_helal.public1.linz.at/tmp/Screenshot-GNOME%20ALSA%20Mixer.png
[23:30] <DoDo> Hello all. I'm pretty new to Ubuntu (Just created my own "server") and now I need to enable AssignUserID, but I don't know how. Can someone help me out?
[23:31] <Xodiac> how can i get the cursor effect on the pointer with the fire
[23:31] <kostkon> Eraldo, wow. a lot of volumes
[23:31] <kostkon> Eraldo, i can see for example that the "mic" volume is muted
[23:31] <kostkon> Eraldo, try to unmute your inputs and increase their volume levels
[23:31] <Eraldo> kostkon: I did ...no echo
[23:32] <tehdave> Xodiac, "advanced desktop effects" under Preferences...don't remember what package it is though (8.04, might be different for your version)
[23:32] <kostkon> Eraldo, also, line in is muted, i think. etc etc
[23:32] <Xodiac> tehdave: nice thanks
[23:32] <kostkon> Eraldo, also, i can see a lot of switches
[23:32] <^workman^> Xodiac: goto System>Preferences>Visual Effects
[23:32] <kostkon> Eraldo, like "mic select" , "mic front input"
[23:32] <Xodiac> tehdave: i am
[23:33] <^workman^> Xodiac: goto System>Preferences>Apperance>Visual Effects
[23:33] <ryanevans> hey ! does anybody know how to setup sis 771/671 vga driver ?
[23:33] <kostkon> Eraldo, try them all. try allo the possible combos in alsamixer and in the sound prefs
[23:33] <ryanevans> it works wrong resolution
[23:33] <^workman^> !sis | ryanevans
[23:34] <ryanevans> !sis
[23:34] <^workman^> hmm
[23:34] <Xodiac> ^workman^: im there but where do i go for the cursor fire orbit effect
[23:34] <ryanevans> ^workman^, : bot ?
[23:34] <DoDo> No one?
[23:34] <kostkon> !sis | ryanevans
[23:34] <kostkon> !test
[23:35] <ryanevans> what's the link ?
[23:36] <coz_> DoDo,   I didnt see your post  sorry  what was it again?
[23:36] <minimec> ryanevans: You could try to set a 'Virtual 1280 2024' in the "Screen" Section for example in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you want that resolution.
[23:37] <alaqsory> minimec:
[23:37] <minimec> alaqsory: Yes?
[23:37] <alaqsory> http://pastebin.com/m242b432d
[23:38] <Xodiac> where do i find the cursor orbit effect
[23:39] <minimec> alaqsory: Ok. The hardware seems to be recognized well.
[23:39] <^workman^> Xodiac, no idea =(
[23:39] <Xodiac> ^workman^: crap do you know what its called
[23:39] <minimec> alaqsory: So still no internet connection?
[23:39] <alaqsory> I can not enter the internet
[23:39] <alaqsory> minimec: yes
[23:40] <ryanevans> minimec, : does it support accelerator  ?
[23:40] <winstonw1> hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/332684/ -- less than 100 KiB/sec hard drive read and write -- how do i fix?
[23:40] <alaqsory> minimec: it is my second time
[23:40] <reeeeeesty> i have a 2 hour audio speech i have to listen to.... is there some sort of voice recognition software that can listen to it and write it into a text document that i can read?
[23:40] <alaqsory> at the first time i reinstalled ubuntu
[23:40] <^workman^> !compiz
[23:41] <Lingus> hi
[23:41] <alaqsory> and this time is the second
[23:41] <ryanevans> !sis671
[23:41] <ryanevans> !sis
[23:41] <minimec> alaqsory: are you behind a router? Could you try to ping the router's ip like 192.168.1.1 or equal? You can also try to boot an older kernel. Just choose on older kernel when the brub screen pops up.
[23:41] <^workman^> !compiz | Xodiac
[23:41] <fretegi_part_2> how do u use ubuntu as a dvr?
[23:41] <alaqsory> yes i tried
[23:41] <Invasion> can someone tell me how i can login as root to change some folders in my etc folder please ?
[23:41] <^workman^> !media
[23:41] <alaqsory> but the router do not respond
[23:41] <^workman^> !mediabuntu
[23:42] <fretegi_part_2> invasion sudo
[23:42] <Xodiac> ^workman^: thank you i think i found it
[23:42] <minimec> alaqsory: So you cannot ping the router... Try to boot an older kernel.
[23:42] <cristi1> i have a small problem with starting tor, can anyone help me? this is the log http://www.pastebin.ca/1697418
[23:42] <^workman^> !myth-buntu
[23:42] <^workman^> !mythbuntu
[23:42] <Invasion> fretegi_part_2: i tried that but then open the etc folder and still says i dont have permission
[23:42] <alaqsory> minimec: i will try soon
[23:42] <ZaNeIuM> i installed win7 and lost ubuntu, then i ran the live cd and did, the grub tutorial ie: grub setup (hd0) and now ubuntu is back but i lost win7
[23:42] <kostkon> fretegi_part_2, use software like mythtv, moovida, xbmc etc etc
[23:42] <awayand> can anyone direct me to understand how the terminal is configured? My lines in mutt are not coherent, but when I set my environment variable to TERM=vt100, the lines are fine, but then this only works in xfce's terminal, not in xterm, I am confused..
[23:42] <^workman^> !mythbuntu | fretegi_part_2
[23:42] <alaqsory> minimec: thank you very much for helping
[23:42] <Dasda> hey guys i have  a ebook that is a .exe and uses ebook viewer. I can open it under wine however when i click on chapters It does not open. I dunno what is wrong so I thought about extracting the .exe. However, I have had trouble extracting .exe. I've tried cabextract, p7zip and unshield
[23:42] <fretegi_part_2> i mean how does this work? so say i have a ripped dvd on ubuntu, how do i play it on a tv, ?
[23:43] <minimec> alaqsory: no problem...
[23:43] <squircle> Dasda: where did you get it from?
[23:43] <Invasion> no one got any ideas i guess >.<
[23:43] <donpdonp> i did a dist-upgrade (karmic) just now, got a new xserver-org-video-intel (2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2) and now music from rhythbox "scratches" everytime i switch windows or scroll in a browser. halp!
[23:43] <Dasda> squircle: vgsports
[23:43] <kernel_script> Hello folks. Please, somebody here have experience running Ubuntu on a Apple Mac? It runs well? How's the Hardware compatibility/recognition?
[23:43] <Dasda> the ebook views fine under windows
[23:43] <fretegi_part_2> anyone?
[23:43] <btimby> Hello, I am using 9.10 and I have wifi as well as ethernet working. I was wondering if there is any way to prevent network manager from bringing up my wifi if my ethernet is connected.
[23:44] <LjL> Invasion: gksudo gedit /file/that/you/want/to/change
[23:44] <squircle> kernel_script: i'm running ubuntu on my MBP right now :)
[23:44] <btimby> However, when I unplug the wired ethernet, I would like the wifi to then come up.
[23:44] <LjL> !root > Invasion    (Invasion, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:44] <kernel_script> squidly, it runs well? How's the hardware compatibility?
[23:45] <kernel_script> ops, wrong person sorry xD
[23:45] <squircle> kernel_script: (everybody thinks it's squidly lol) it runs very, very well, and everything's compatible 100%
[23:45] <Invasion> it didnt help lol, ive set a root password but im not looking to do something through terminal, just want to know how i can log in as root to change a few files in etc then log back out
[23:45] <minimec> btimby: That should be default behaviour. If not, you should be able to choose that in the preferences of the network manager
[23:46] <btimby> I can't find it, right now it connects both
[23:46] <bcurtiswx> hey, i upgraded my windows and I need to re setup my grub2 bootloader... how?
[23:46] <cristi1> i have a small problem with starting tor, can anyone help me? this is the log http://www.pastebin.ca/1697418
[23:46] <Flannel> Invasion: You don't need to enable the root account to do that.  Just `sudo -i` will get you a root shell
[23:46] <kernel_script> squircle, oh thanks man : ) Great : D
[23:46] <squircle> !grub | bcurtiswx
[23:46] <giovanni> ciao
[23:46] <btimby> meaning can't find any option, I can uncheck "connect automatically" for wifi connections, but I do want it to connect automatically when wired is unavailable...
[23:46] <Invasion> but will that let me copy and paste a few folders into the etc ?
[23:46] <bcurtiswx> its karmic
[23:46] <squircle> !it | giovanni
[23:46] <bcurtiswx> !grub2
[23:47] <squircle> kernel_script: if you need any more help with the mac stuff (even though it's awesomely documented on the ubuntu help wiki), just let us know :)
[23:47] <Invasion> cus i done the "sudo -i" and it still dont let me edit my etc folder
[23:47] <Dasda> so anyone able to help me with ebook problem I have?
[23:47] <Flannel> Invasion: Oh, you *definately* don't want to log in to the GUI as root.  If you insist, however, go re-lock the root account (sudo passwd -l root) and then hit alt-f2 and in the box that comes up, `gksu nautilus` that will give you a root nautilus window.
[23:47] <squircle> !patience | Dasda
[23:47] <minimec> btimby: I guess, that the wifi connection is set as default.
[23:48] <Flannel> Invasion: Be *very* careful with that, and close it as soon as you're finished.
[23:48] <Invasion> thanks
[23:48] <Invasion> :)
[23:48] <squircle> Dasda: if it's some obscure executable, try it in wine.... but i'm no expert
[23:48] <Dasda> squircle: i ran it in wine. However it opens the home page of ebook. When i click on chapters then it does not load anything but a blank page
[23:49] <squircle> Dasda: did it open in a browser or something?
[23:49] <giovanni> c'è qualcuno?
[23:49] <btimby> minimec: is it possible to change the default?
[23:49] <squircle> !it | giovanni
[23:49] <Dasda> squircle: no, it uses a app called ebook viewer
[23:49] <btimby> minimec: wired=eth0, wifi=eth1
[23:49] <squircle> Dasda: problem with "ebook viewer" is that it's very generic :P
[23:49] <squircle> Dasda: what was the source again?
[23:50] <Dasda> squircle: i would be happy by either viewing the book or extracting .exe to look at files
[23:50] <Dasda> the source was vgsports
[23:50] <kernel_script> squircle, thanks man. Sure, i will read and already read some of it. I'm asking because i never used a mac and i'm thinkin about geting one in the future, but i want to run Ubuntu on it, so i wanted to know of someone that have this setup if it everything works fine, or if existe major problems etc.
[23:50] <Dasda> it is a ebook that includes playbooks of teams in madden nfl 10(video game)
[23:50] <squircle> kernel_script: I use OS X and ubuntu side by side (both on macs lol)
[23:50] <squircle> Dasda: just a sec, i'm taking a look
[23:51] <Dasda> k
[23:51] <Colonel_Panik> for the firey cursor enable "Enable Show Mouse" in Accessibility
[23:51] <Promit> i'm kinda confused about what differentiates the add/remove programs dialog and the synaptic package manager
[23:51] <Colonel_Panik> start it with <super><K>
[23:51] <Colonel_Panik> woooo!
[23:51] <Dasda> squircle: want a link to the source? u can download and see it?
[23:51] <Promit> they seem to have entirely different sets of entries
[23:51] <squircle> Dasda: nah, i don't need it
[23:51] <squircle> oh my god ubottu is dead!
[23:51] <urello>  Hello there. I try to compile vlc player from source on Karmic Koala, but get error "Could not find libavcodec or libavutil", although i have these libraries in /usr/lib/
[23:51] <kernel_script> squircle, cool : ) I'll probably run the too of them too, Mac OS looks very nice, for a proprietary OS of course.
[23:52] <squircle> kernel_script: ;)
[23:52] <bcurtiswx> its about time ubottu died
[23:52] <kernel_script> squircle, two*
[23:52] <squircle> urello: do you not want to install the pre-configured package?
[23:52] <gregL> urello: download the dev headers
[23:52] <ChogyDan> Promit: programs use libraries of code, each in its own package.  Synaptic shows everything, while add/remove just shows the main programs
[23:53] <Nim_> Hi I dont know if anyone can help me or not but Im having some keyboard and sound issues.. it seems some of the keys of my keyboard are being displayed incorrectly ie: the question mark is appearing as É. my other problem is that my headset isnt working, i can hear sound coming from the monitor and the headset when i have it plugged into the jack, and the microphone doesnt work at all. i cant find solutions anywhere. could it be a hardwa
[23:53] <Nim_> re compatibility issue
[23:53] <minimec> btimby: the eth-thing depends on the wifi driver. Could it be, that Ubuntu thinks, that you r wifi card is a ethernet card? Hmmm... I never had your problem. My Notebook only connects to ethernet, when I plug the cble and boot. Try to delete the wifi connection and reboot. then setup wifi again.
[23:53] <Promit> so the repository maintainers decide that X package goes into Add/Remove or not?
[23:53] <squircle> Dasda: it appears as though your ebook viewer program requires IE
[23:53] <urello> squircle: as i understood, dvb support is not availble in pre-configured package
[23:53] <kostkon> Dasda, do you have the wine-gecko package installed?
[23:53] <ChogyDan> Promit: someone does
[23:53] <Dasda> kostkon: not sure. how can i check?
[23:54] <squircle> Dasda: what I would do is install ie6 and gecko using winetricks (http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks)
[23:54] <kostkon> Dasda, eh in synaptic
[23:54] <klappi> dasda: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep wine-gecko
[23:54] <squircle> Dasda: yeah, what i said and what kostkon said are equivalent
[23:54] <Dasda> ok
[23:54] <Dasda> im searching for gecko in synaptic
[23:54] <kostkon> Dasda, or in a terminal give: apt-cache policy wine-gecko
[23:55] <kostkon> Dasda, i just double-checked that the package is indeed called wine-gecko
[23:55] <urello> gregL: is this a package?
[23:55] <Dasda> I have wine-gecko installed guys but not wine1.2-gecko. Does it make a difference?
[23:56] <kostkon> Dasda, which wine do you have? wine or wine1.2
[23:56] <squircle> Dasda: what version of wine are you using?
[23:56] <Dasda> Kostkon: 1.1.32
[23:57] <Dasda> squricle: 1.1.32
[23:57] <minimec> squircle: Well I think his real question is. Would I prefer wine 1.0 or 1.2? ;)
[23:57] <kostkon> Dasda, then you have wine1.2? could you check?
[23:57] <Stargazer> What program would i use to backup my / ?
[23:57] <squircle> minimec: exactly. 1,0 is just soooo outdated.
[23:57] <Dasda> kostkon: sure np, how do i check though? I found that is is by going to "configure wine" and clicking on "about"
[23:57] <minimec> Dasda: So we decided, that you should install the 1.2 version ;)
[23:58] <kostkon> Dasda, i mean the package wine1.2. check in synaptic
[23:58] <kernel_script> squircle, are macs stable? That's the main motive i'm thinking about get one in the future, and leave PC world forever. PC, in all my life, every fail in something, some part of it become imcopatible with another, or new hardware piece is imcompatible with the old one (when upgrading), or it just fails. With no exception, PC always fails, i wonder if what they say about mac is true: Macs are very well integrated hardware, and very stable for years.
[23:58] <kostkon> Dasda, if yes, you could remove wine-gecko and install wine1.2-gecko
[23:58] <^workman^> Stargazer: check out sbackup
[23:58] <Dasda> Kostkon: no i dont have wine 1.2 package installed
[23:58] <kostkon> Dasda, aha. ok
[23:58] <^workman^> !sbackup
[23:58] <^workman^> hmm
[23:59] <^workman^> !backup
[23:59] <squircle> kernel_script: for me, it's the great hardware. i love my MBP like nothing else; they're tough, well-build, and very fast. OS X is even more stable than ubuntu (i know, i was surprised too)
[23:59] <Dasda> should i  install wine 1.2? and wine1.2-gecko?
[23:59] <squircle> ^workman^: ubottu is offline
[23:59] <squircle> Dasda: yes.
[23:59] <minimec> Dasda: Update from 1.0 to 1.2. Looks that 1.0 is quiet old...
[23:59] <kostkon> Dasda, could you give this in a terminal just for testing:  iexplore.exe http://www.google.com/
[23:59] <squircle> Dasda: they won't give you any help if you're running 1.0, it's soooo old
[23:59] <kostkon> Dasda, does it open a browser window?
[23:59] <Dasda> no says command not found