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MBCRban me05:10
MBCR!ops05:10
wgrantEven better.05:13
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baptistemmhello08:19
baptistemmis there anyway to unsubscribe someone from a bug report? I have subscribe the SRU team for a SRU update, but I need to ork more on a patch so in the mean time I would like to unsubscribe them, and I didn't see any optionfor that08:21
micahgbaptistemm: no08:22
micahgbaptistemm: do they know you're working on it?08:22
baptistemmI put a comment stating the packaging I uploaded on the bug # is broken and I need to work on, but as I don't know how to fix it it could take some time08:26
micahgbaptistemm: you should go into #ubuntu-motu if you need help08:27
baptistemmokay08:30
srapshello!09:26
srapshow to delete a project?09:26
geserbaptistemm: you can ask someone from the SRU team to unsubscribe them from that bug09:26
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AlexC_Hi10:28
jmlhello.10:28
AlexC_I merged some translation files with launchpad few months back, and these new translation files actually removed existing strings. However Launchpad has decided to keep these deleted strings. How can I remove them, as this is added unwanted work to translators, since they will never be used10:28
dpmAlexC_, danilo_ or henninge might be able to help you, could you point them to your project, and to some of the unwanted strings as an example, please?10:30
AlexC_sure10:31
henningeAlexC_: yes, some links would be helpful10:31
AlexC_https://translations.launchpad.net/tangocms/trunk/+pots/tangocms-aliases/en_GB/+translate?start=010:32
AlexC_for example, "Added URL Alias "%1$s"", "Edit URL Alias "%s"" are 210:33
AlexC_I was shortly about to upload a new merged translation set of files to be imported, and just wanted to check if Launchpad should be removing the deleted strings10:34
AlexC_tbh, thinking about it - this may actually be a mistake on my part and those weren't removed in the files I uploaded. I shall have to double check that10:34
henningeAlexC_: Are you talking about "translations" or "templates"?10:37
AlexC_sorry, templates10:37
henningeAlexC_: yes, you should double check that. When you update a template with a new pot file, Launchpad will only use the English strings that are mentioned in that file, everything else is "obsoleted".10:38
AlexC_ok, that's good to know it should delete them then. I shall check what I uploaded10:39
henningeAlexC_: You get the obsolete strings as comments at the end of a template file that you export from Launchpad.10:39
AlexC_I take it these aren't included in the .po files?10:40
henningeno, not there10:40
AlexC_good, good. I'll get another set of templates uploaded shortly then10:40
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geserdoes the binary publishing history for a package in the main archive still exists?11:13
wgrantgeser: Yes. Why?11:14
geserI want to find out when exactly the new python-pkg-resources pkg got into lucid. It seems to be broken (see bug #490731)11:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 490731 in distribute "python-setuptools: import setuptools returns ValueError: ("Missing 'Version:' ...)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49073111:14
wgrantgeser: You mean something like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/python-pkg-resources?11:18
geserwgrant: yes, how you got there? and don't tell you typed the url11:18
wgrantgeser: I'm afraid so.11:19
wgrantgeser: Let's see if I can work out how to click there.11:19
wgrantgeser: Best thing I can see is:11:21
geserfound a path, but not very intuitiv :(11:21
wgrant1) Go to the source package page (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distribute)11:21
wgrantAh, right.11:21
wgrantNot at all intuitive.11:21
wgrantBut that's why we have keyboards!11:21
wgrantI think.11:21
geserI found it through: build then the package below "Binary packages" which leads to the versioned binary page and the use the breadcrumb to move one level up11:22
wgrantRight.11:23
geseris it intended to be so hard to find?11:23
wgrantI went from the distribution source package page to a source package release to the distro series binary package release, then through breadcrumbs to the distro series binary package.11:24
* wgrant has no idea.11:24
geseral-maisan, bigjools: any idea why pkg-create-dbgsym didn't got update on the buildd (kept back)? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36328245/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.pion-net_2.2.2%2Bdfsg-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:34
al-maisangeser: good question .. maybe a missing dependency?11:36
geseris has no dependencies at all (it's just some shell scripts)11:38
bigjoolsI am on the phone, perhaps lamont is around? --^11:39
wgrantThe following held packages will be changed: pkg-create-dbgsym11:41
wgrant(that's from inside that chroot)11:42
wgrantIndeed, it is held.11:43
lamontbigjools: perhaps11:43
bigjoolsyou can't hide!11:43
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geserany reason why pkg-create-dbgsym is on hold?11:44
lamontgeser: because it was bad (32).  is it proven to be not bad yet?11:44
geserlamont: the "add .ddebs to .changes file" change in 0.32?11:49
wgrantOh, damn. Crazy non-debhelper-users11:49
geserthere was some fix for non-debhelper-users in 0.3311:50
geserbut as I don't know the exact problem, I can't tell if it's fixed or not11:51
wgrantIt certainly looks fixed.11:51
geserbut pkg-create-dbgsym 0.35 is needed to fix the FTBFS of pion-net11:52
lamontgeser: I'd like to do a little bit more verification before releasing it from the corner where we sent it - would later today be quick enough?11:54
geserlamont: sure no hurry11:55
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deryckjcastro, ping17:53
jcastroderyck, yo17:53
maxbDo the LOSAs look after lists.ubuntu.com too, even though it's not exactly Launchpad?18:10
maxbI am curious why I can download https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar.mbox/bazaar.mbox with Firefox, but wget gets a 403 Forbidden18:11
barrymaxb: no, but our IS team does18:17
barrymaxb: i get a 403 with firefox18:18
maxbum. nice. Well, I've downloaded it :-)18:18
barrymaxb: did you log in, maybe to view the archives?18:18
maxbI wasn't aware of doing so. Perhaps I have a lurking cookie18:19
maxbAccording to Firefox Live HTTP Headers, there's nothing personally identifying in the request18:21
maxbOh, heh. It's performing Referer: filtering18:22
barrymaxb: interesting18:36
jyoderI wrote a little tool (temporarily) called debuild-ppa-dist (following the syntax of pbuilder-dist) to automate changing the changelog and uploading to multiple revisions (e.g. hardy/jaunty/karmic).  Anyone think this would be a useful thing to try to get into the build tools or am I one of the few people that would use something like it?18:51
jyoderyou name your revisions the normal PPA way, e.g. lirc_0.8.6-0ubuntu1~ppa3 and it takes care of changing the changelog to lirc_0.8.6-0ubuntu1~ppa3~hardy118:53
akheronjyoder: according to my (limited) experience, there are other things to change across distro revisions than only the changelog18:53
jyoderok, so my package might be an outlier then...18:54
jyoderwhat kinds of things?  other debian build control files or source changes (on average I mean)?18:55
akheronit depends18:56
akheronI have done both18:57
jyoderother debian control files would be an easy addition to the tool, but source changes outside the debian directory would definitely not fall under what I was picturing18:58
akherone.g. disabled tests that are known to fail with certain library versions (this is a source change), tweaked dependencies (control file change), and even had more binary packages built on never ubuntu versions because of new dependencies popping up18:59
akheronnone of these are trivial changes that can easily be automated18:59
akheronbut on easy cases, why not19:00
jyoderactually the dependency case is an easy one (I think) by simply having a debian/<file>~intrepid convention for the tool...  but I'm not sure anything beyond that is going to be easily handled :)19:01
akherons/never/newer/ a few lines up :P19:01
akheronit's good to proofread your irc lines 5 mins after writing them19:02
jyoderI agree19:02
ftagot an email from lp about imported comments, it doesn't make sense at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/333331/19:26
ftabugs are unrelated19:27
ftaand the lp bug has no such comments19:28
mtaylorhey ho - I keep trying to lftp in to bazaar.launchpad.net to remove a backup.bzr dir and it pretty much continually hangs19:49
mtayloram I doing something wrong?19:49
beunomtaylor, have you tried hitchhiker instead?19:50
mtaylorbeuno: no.19:50
mtaylorbeuno: I spent most of my time wishing for a launchpad upgrade branch button :)19:50
beunomtaylor, https://dev.launchpad.net/HitchHiker19:51
beunoI think you can also just clean it up in one command, but I always forget how19:51
beunomaybe abentley is around19:51
mtaylorbeuno: fwiw, the brnach command on dev.launachpad.net has a typo19:52
mtaylorthere are two h's19:52
beunomtaylor, fixed, thanks19:52
mtaylorbeuno: sure!19:53
mtaylorbeuno: perhaps a bzr upgrade --2a --force option which would remove any previous backup.bzr dirs? or rename them?19:53
mtaylorbeuno: but thanks -that worked great!19:53
beunomtaylor, yes, I've been crying for 2 years for something like that19:54
beunoI may just end up proposing a patch and stop whining19:54
beunoI keep on hearing upgrades via de web ui are around the corner19:55
mtaylorbeuno: funny. I was just thinking the same thing19:55
mtaylorbeuno: both would really be nice - a --force option and a web ui option19:55
mtaylorbeuno: and then, for added bonus, an "upgrade all branches" option for a project19:55
beunomtaylor, if you do end up proposing a patch, my thought was either --force, or just by default, rename the dir to backup.bzr.1/2/3/4/etc19:56
mtaylorI'm about to upgrade all of the drizzle branches (within the next week or so) and it's going to eat a lot of bandwidth :)19:56
mtaylorbeuno: ooh. I would really like just renaming the old dir by default19:56
beunomtaylor, I think that with branch stacking, you basically need to upgrade all at once19:56
beunomtaylor, so, lets race and see if either of us cook up a patch for renaming  :)19:57
beunoalso, you may want to see if it isn't better to get someone to upgrade the drizzle branches on the datacenter directly, considering it's size19:57
beunomwhudson, what do you think about that ^19:57
ftano comment for my bug? ok, I just filed bug 491549 then19:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 491549 in launchpad "bug mismatch during comments import?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49154919:58
mwhudsonbeuno: um, drizzle isn't that big is it?19:58
* mwhudson isn't really sure though19:59
beunomwhudson, I don't know, I thought they branched off mysql, but I may be wrong19:59
lifelessthey branched off mysql20:00
lifelessdeleted 90% of it20:00
lifelessand continued.20:00
lifelessactually rephrase20:00
lifelessthey cp -a'd mysql20:00
lifelesscommitted20:00
lifelessthen started deleting shit.20:00
lifelessso they aren't joined in history20:00
moradanHello, is there a launchpad administrator here? I'm very interested in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/9250920:00
lifelessbut they do have a few big revisions while they did the massive cleanup20:01
lifelessmtaylor: losas will do it with jkakar's script; see previous discussions :)20:01
mtaylorlifeless: awesome. I just followed up to that via email, actually20:01
mtaylorwe aren't as big as mysql - but we do commit a lot20:02
mtaylorso we have quite a few revisions20:02
lifelessmtaylor: if you were to rebase your whole tree 3 revs later, your history would be a lot smaller ;)20:02
mtaylorlifeless: heh20:02
jkakarI still need to incorporate the fix-missing-revisions script.  It's on my todo list, will try to do it sooner than later.20:02
mtaylorlifeless: you know - if rebase didn't throw an exception on missing revisions, I'd use it more20:03
lifelessmtaylor: I'm glad it throws then :)20:03
mtaylorlifeless: :)20:03
mwhudsonmtaylor: just out of curiosity, what is "du -sh .bzr" for your drizzle repo?20:04
mtaylormwhudson: 165M20:04
lifeless70m in 2a20:04
mwhudsonroughly the same size as bzr then?20:05
lifelessyeah20:05
mtaylorlifeless: I've been considering the workflow of bzr branch lp:drizzle foo ; cd foo ; commit commit commit ; bzr rebase lp:drizzle ... rather than bzr branch lp:drizzle foo ; cd foo ; commit commit commit ; bzr merge lp:drizzle20:05
mtaylorlifeless: so that I keep all of the revision history intact (I'm not interested in git-style collapsing)20:05
mtaylorlifeless: but it doesn't really work for anything non-trivial, so I gave up20:06
lifelessmtaylor: I don't see that they would differ in that manner20:06
mtaylorlifeless: they has ambiguous antecedant here20:07
lifelessusing rebase or merge20:07
lifelesswould seem to have the same identical preservation of revisio history20:07
mtayloroh, well, using rebase doesn't leave you with one or more "merged trunk" revisions after my work20:07
lifelessthats true, but thats not really about 'preserved history' is it?20:08
mtaylorlifeless: oh, no. by preserved history I meant preserved sequence of commits that I made20:08
mtaylortheir relation to a particular starting point in the tree is (sometimes) less interesting20:09
lifelesslong as you retest each one individually ;)20:09
mtaylorlifeless: yes... or if you happen to know that they don't have any relation to the changes that streamed in to trunk... but yeah. it's not a total replacement, there are just times when it seemed like it would be nicer20:10
mtaylorlifeless: again though - doesn't work, so sort of moot20:10
lifelessdid you file bugs?20:10
jkakarRewriting history is a bad idea in code and in real life. :)20:10
lifelessjkakar: it can be a very powerful tool20:11
lifelessjkakar: we shouldn't discard the tool because it /can/ have bad implications. We should just make them obvious, and support avoiding them.20:11
jkakarlifeless: Yeah, I know.  But it seems like the thing you'd need once in a while, not as a rule.20:11
mtaylorlifeless: I think I did. and then I think I noticed that nothing had been touched in month20:11
mtaylormonths20:11
jkakarlifeless: Right, agreed.20:12
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blackxoredhello crew, I want my git branches for my debian/ubuntu packages to appear linked to me in launchpad, how can I achieve this?20:37
maxbblackxored: Could you explain a little more what you mean? Possibly with an example?20:39
blackxoredmaxb I maintain my packages in git.debian.org20:39
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blackxoredsince I'm starting to be more active on ubuntu as well20:40
blackxoredI want the branches to be listed and mirrored at launchpad20:40
blackxoredsince my goal is that my packages will mostly be syncs20:40
maxbYou can create automatic bzr imports of remote git branches.... but only for the git HEAD at the moment.20:40
blackxoredmaxb, all right for now, enlighten me plz :)20:41
blackxoredI am at the VCSImport page20:42
blackxoredin project I assume I should set ubuntu20:42
blackxoredor can I be more specific20:42
blackxored?20:42
moradanHello, is there a launchpad administrator here? I'm very interested in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/9250920:42
maxbblackxored: Um. Can you show me a link to the git branch?20:42
blackxoredgit://git.debian.org/pkg-java/azureus.git or http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/azureus.git for example20:43
maxbI suppose in the ideal world it would be registered as an import to a package branch associated with debian/sid20:44
blackxoredmaxb, probably but sometimes (casually right now) I have diversion such as20:45
AlanBellhi, can I ask about launchpadlib here?20:45
maxbUnfortunately it appears that the vcs-import creation UI has not been updated since the concept of package branches was created20:45
maxbAlanBell: Yes, and you may even get an answer :-)20:45
* blackxored is getting the link20:45
AlanBellok, I am just getting started and failing at the first hurdle, from the instructions at https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib20:46
blackxoredhttp://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/azureus.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu20:46
AlanBellwhen I try to set up the credentials and the cachedir I get AttributeError: type object 'Launchpad' has no attribute 'login_with'20:46
blackxoredmaxb, here ^^^^20:46
AlanBelland if I do dir(Launchpad) it has things like '_get_external_param_name', '_get_parameter_names', '_transform_resources_to_links', 'get_token_and_login', 'load', 'login', 'lp_attributes', 'lp_collections', 'lp_entries', 'lp_get_named_operation', 'lp_get_parameter', 'lp_has_parameter', 'lp_operations', 'lp_refresh']20:47
AlanBellbut no login_with20:47
maxbblackxored: Unfortunately the current importer is incapable of importing that20:48
blackxoredI supposed that :(20:48
maxbIt can only import what HEAD points to, i.e. usually refs/heads/master20:48
blackxoredis even incapable of linking the package branches as well20:48
blackxoredmaster is for debian and there's no way I can change that :P20:49
maxbThe ability to point at alternative heads is definitely near the top of people's lists for things to fix20:49
blackxoredmaxb, probably yes20:50
blackxoredmaybe when I get some time :P I could provide some help, but no promises20:50
maxbI've been contemplating looking at it myself20:50
blackxoredthanks for your help anyways, seems like I'll stick to git and things as they are20:50
AlanBellthe launchpadlib I am using is on an up to date Jaunty box, installed the easy way from the repos20:51
maxbAlanBell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/333378/ <--- my personal "just playing around with launchpadlib" script20:51
AlanBellmaxb: thanks, looks useful20:52
AlanBellI want to enumerate all the members of a group and it's subgroup and watch for changes20:52
AlanBellso your script is using get_token_and_login20:53
AlanBellI can see that but I can't see launchpad.login_with20:54
maxbIf you're still using the launchpadlib shipped with Jaunty.... I think you should definitely update20:57
maxb0.2~bzr35-0ubuntu1 vs. 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 in karmic ... huuuuuge difference20:57
AlanBellok, will fire up a Karmic and try again20:57
maxbIt should be somewhat feasible to install the newer launchpadlib on jaunty, I would hope20:58
AlanBellKarmic is fine if that is the reason20:58
AlanBellin fact anything is fine as long as I understand it20:58
moradanbarry: hello, may I talk to you?21:00
barrymoradan: yes, but i'm about to go on a phone call, duration unknown21:00
AlanBellyay, login_with does exist in Karmic21:02
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moradanbarry: my question is the same as yesterday (approximately 22-23 hours ago) and there is some time - you helped me a lot and now lead-developer of the projects' program wrote a question  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/92509 - I just wanted to point this.21:04
AlanBellhmm, tried to log in to the wiki to add a note about Jaunty and I am looking at a big moinMoin error21:05
barrymoradan: that looks good to me.  i will have to assign this to a losa since i do not have permission, but i think it will be fine21:07
moradanthanks21:07
AlanBellok, logged in now. I changed the installation instructions a bit, https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#The launchpadlib in Ubuntu (easy to install)21:16
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barrymoradan: i've assigned the question to the losas.  please let me know if it's not resolved in the next few days21:38
barrymoradan: with a launchpad release coming up, please be patient21:39
maxbWell, we can hope it all goes smoothly and the losas are bored tomorrow :-)21:39
barrymaxb: +121:39
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barryAlanBell: i see your wiki change.  thanks21:40
barrymbarnett: OverflowError21:40
mbarnettdoh!21:40
AlanBellbarry: no problem21:41
AlanBellI am now having lots of fun browsing about launchpad with python21:41
maxbYou have 18ΒΌ minutes left...21:41
barrymaxb: sounds like you're talking to richard nixon21:42
moradanthanks a lot21:45
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oojahmbarnett: You're a tease :)22:00
mbarnett:)22:05
infinity0how do i delete comments on bugs? i made a doublepost by mistake22:07
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