=== mneptok is now known as weremnep === weremnep is now known as mneptok === micahg1 is now known as micahg [05:10] ban me [05:10] !ops [05:13] Even better. === ripps_ is now known as ripps [08:19] hello [08:21] is there anyway to unsubscribe someone from a bug report? I have subscribe the SRU team for a SRU update, but I need to ork more on a patch so in the mean time I would like to unsubscribe them, and I didn't see any optionfor that [08:22] baptistemm: no [08:22] baptistemm: do they know you're working on it? [08:26] I put a comment stating the packaging I uploaded on the bug # is broken and I need to work on, but as I don't know how to fix it it could take some time [08:27] baptistemm: you should go into #ubuntu-motu if you need help [08:30] okay [09:26] hello! [09:26] how to delete a project? [09:26] baptistemm: you can ask someone from the SRU team to unsubscribe them from that bug === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [10:28] Hi [10:28] hello. [10:28] I merged some translation files with launchpad few months back, and these new translation files actually removed existing strings. However Launchpad has decided to keep these deleted strings. How can I remove them, as this is added unwanted work to translators, since they will never be used [10:30] AlexC_, danilo_ or henninge might be able to help you, could you point them to your project, and to some of the unwanted strings as an example, please? [10:31] sure [10:31] AlexC_: yes, some links would be helpful [10:32] https://translations.launchpad.net/tangocms/trunk/+pots/tangocms-aliases/en_GB/+translate?start=0 [10:33] for example, "Added URL Alias "%1$s"", "Edit URL Alias "%s"" are 2 [10:34] I was shortly about to upload a new merged translation set of files to be imported, and just wanted to check if Launchpad should be removing the deleted strings [10:34] tbh, thinking about it - this may actually be a mistake on my part and those weren't removed in the files I uploaded. I shall have to double check that [10:37] AlexC_: Are you talking about "translations" or "templates"? [10:37] sorry, templates [10:38] AlexC_: yes, you should double check that. When you update a template with a new pot file, Launchpad will only use the English strings that are mentioned in that file, everything else is "obsoleted". [10:39] ok, that's good to know it should delete them then. I shall check what I uploaded [10:39] AlexC_: You get the obsolete strings as comments at the end of a template file that you export from Launchpad. [10:40] I take it these aren't included in the .po files? [10:40] no, not there [10:40] good, good. I'll get another set of templates uploaded shortly then === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [11:13] does the binary publishing history for a package in the main archive still exists? [11:14] geser: Yes. Why? [11:14] I want to find out when exactly the new python-pkg-resources pkg got into lucid. It seems to be broken (see bug #490731) [11:14] Launchpad bug 490731 in distribute "python-setuptools: import setuptools returns ValueError: ("Missing 'Version:' ...)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490731 [11:18] geser: You mean something like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/python-pkg-resources? [11:18] wgrant: yes, how you got there? and don't tell you typed the url [11:19] geser: I'm afraid so. [11:19] geser: Let's see if I can work out how to click there. [11:21] geser: Best thing I can see is: [11:21] found a path, but not very intuitiv :( [11:21] 1) Go to the source package page (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distribute) [11:21] Ah, right. [11:21] Not at all intuitive. [11:21] But that's why we have keyboards! [11:21] I think. [11:22] I found it through: build then the package below "Binary packages" which leads to the versioned binary page and the use the breadcrumb to move one level up [11:23] Right. [11:23] is it intended to be so hard to find? [11:24] I went from the distribution source package page to a source package release to the distro series binary package release, then through breadcrumbs to the distro series binary package. [11:24] * wgrant has no idea. [11:34] al-maisan, bigjools: any idea why pkg-create-dbgsym didn't got update on the buildd (kept back)? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36328245/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.pion-net_2.2.2%2Bdfsg-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [11:36] geser: good question .. maybe a missing dependency? [11:38] is has no dependencies at all (it's just some shell scripts) [11:39] I am on the phone, perhaps lamont is around? --^ [11:41] The following held packages will be changed: pkg-create-dbgsym [11:42] (that's from inside that chroot) [11:43] Indeed, it is held. [11:43] bigjools: perhaps [11:43] you can't hide! === henninge is now known as henninge-afk [11:44] any reason why pkg-create-dbgsym is on hold? [11:44] geser: because it was bad (32). is it proven to be not bad yet? [11:49] lamont: the "add .ddebs to .changes file" change in 0.32? [11:49] Oh, damn. Crazy non-debhelper-users [11:50] there was some fix for non-debhelper-users in 0.33 [11:51] but as I don't know the exact problem, I can't tell if it's fixed or not [11:51] It certainly looks fixed. [11:52] but pkg-create-dbgsym 0.35 is needed to fix the FTBFS of pion-net [11:54] geser: I'd like to do a little bit more verification before releasing it from the corner where we sent it - would later today be quick enough? [11:55] lamont: sure no hurry === AlexC223 is now known as AlexC_ === henninge-afk is now known as henninge === henninge is now known as henninge-afk === henninge-afk is now known as henninge === sale_ is now known as sale === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === jon is now known as Guest17117 === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:53] jcastro, ping [17:53] deryck, yo [18:10] Do the LOSAs look after lists.ubuntu.com too, even though it's not exactly Launchpad? [18:11] I am curious why I can download https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar.mbox/bazaar.mbox with Firefox, but wget gets a 403 Forbidden [18:17] maxb: no, but our IS team does [18:18] maxb: i get a 403 with firefox [18:18] um. nice. Well, I've downloaded it :-) [18:18] maxb: did you log in, maybe to view the archives? [18:19] I wasn't aware of doing so. Perhaps I have a lurking cookie [18:21] According to Firefox Live HTTP Headers, there's nothing personally identifying in the request [18:22] Oh, heh. It's performing Referer: filtering [18:36] maxb: interesting [18:51] I wrote a little tool (temporarily) called debuild-ppa-dist (following the syntax of pbuilder-dist) to automate changing the changelog and uploading to multiple revisions (e.g. hardy/jaunty/karmic). Anyone think this would be a useful thing to try to get into the build tools or am I one of the few people that would use something like it? [18:53] you name your revisions the normal PPA way, e.g. lirc_0.8.6-0ubuntu1~ppa3 and it takes care of changing the changelog to lirc_0.8.6-0ubuntu1~ppa3~hardy1 [18:53] jyoder: according to my (limited) experience, there are other things to change across distro revisions than only the changelog [18:54] ok, so my package might be an outlier then... [18:55] what kinds of things? other debian build control files or source changes (on average I mean)? [18:56] it depends [18:57] I have done both [18:58] other debian control files would be an easy addition to the tool, but source changes outside the debian directory would definitely not fall under what I was picturing [18:59] e.g. disabled tests that are known to fail with certain library versions (this is a source change), tweaked dependencies (control file change), and even had more binary packages built on never ubuntu versions because of new dependencies popping up [18:59] none of these are trivial changes that can easily be automated [19:00] but on easy cases, why not [19:01] actually the dependency case is an easy one (I think) by simply having a debian/~intrepid convention for the tool... but I'm not sure anything beyond that is going to be easily handled :) [19:01] s/never/newer/ a few lines up :P [19:02] it's good to proofread your irc lines 5 mins after writing them [19:02] I agree [19:26] got an email from lp about imported comments, it doesn't make sense at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/333331/ [19:27] bugs are unrelated [19:28] and the lp bug has no such comments [19:49] hey ho - I keep trying to lftp in to bazaar.launchpad.net to remove a backup.bzr dir and it pretty much continually hangs [19:49] am I doing something wrong? [19:50] mtaylor, have you tried hitchhiker instead? [19:50] beuno: no. [19:50] beuno: I spent most of my time wishing for a launchpad upgrade branch button :) [19:51] mtaylor, https://dev.launchpad.net/HitchHiker [19:51] I think you can also just clean it up in one command, but I always forget how [19:51] maybe abentley is around [19:52] beuno: fwiw, the brnach command on dev.launachpad.net has a typo [19:52] there are two h's [19:52] mtaylor, fixed, thanks [19:53] beuno: sure! [19:53] beuno: perhaps a bzr upgrade --2a --force option which would remove any previous backup.bzr dirs? or rename them? [19:53] beuno: but thanks -that worked great! [19:54] mtaylor, yes, I've been crying for 2 years for something like that [19:54] I may just end up proposing a patch and stop whining [19:55] I keep on hearing upgrades via de web ui are around the corner [19:55] beuno: funny. I was just thinking the same thing [19:55] beuno: both would really be nice - a --force option and a web ui option [19:55] beuno: and then, for added bonus, an "upgrade all branches" option for a project [19:56] mtaylor, if you do end up proposing a patch, my thought was either --force, or just by default, rename the dir to backup.bzr.1/2/3/4/etc [19:56] I'm about to upgrade all of the drizzle branches (within the next week or so) and it's going to eat a lot of bandwidth :) [19:56] beuno: ooh. I would really like just renaming the old dir by default [19:56] mtaylor, I think that with branch stacking, you basically need to upgrade all at once [19:57] mtaylor, so, lets race and see if either of us cook up a patch for renaming :) [19:57] also, you may want to see if it isn't better to get someone to upgrade the drizzle branches on the datacenter directly, considering it's size [19:57] mwhudson, what do you think about that ^ [19:58] no comment for my bug? ok, I just filed bug 491549 then [19:58] Launchpad bug 491549 in launchpad "bug mismatch during comments import?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491549 [19:58] beuno: um, drizzle isn't that big is it? [19:59] * mwhudson isn't really sure though [19:59] mwhudson, I don't know, I thought they branched off mysql, but I may be wrong [20:00] they branched off mysql [20:00] deleted 90% of it [20:00] and continued. [20:00] actually rephrase [20:00] they cp -a'd mysql [20:00] committed [20:00] then started deleting shit. [20:00] so they aren't joined in history [20:00] Hello, is there a launchpad administrator here? I'm very interested in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/92509 [20:01] but they do have a few big revisions while they did the massive cleanup [20:01] mtaylor: losas will do it with jkakar's script; see previous discussions :) [20:01] lifeless: awesome. I just followed up to that via email, actually [20:02] we aren't as big as mysql - but we do commit a lot [20:02] so we have quite a few revisions [20:02] mtaylor: if you were to rebase your whole tree 3 revs later, your history would be a lot smaller ;) [20:02] lifeless: heh [20:02] I still need to incorporate the fix-missing-revisions script. It's on my todo list, will try to do it sooner than later. [20:03] lifeless: you know - if rebase didn't throw an exception on missing revisions, I'd use it more [20:03] mtaylor: I'm glad it throws then :) [20:03] lifeless: :) [20:04] mtaylor: just out of curiosity, what is "du -sh .bzr" for your drizzle repo? [20:04] mwhudson: 165M [20:04] 70m in 2a [20:05] roughly the same size as bzr then? [20:05] yeah [20:05] lifeless: I've been considering the workflow of bzr branch lp:drizzle foo ; cd foo ; commit commit commit ; bzr rebase lp:drizzle ... rather than bzr branch lp:drizzle foo ; cd foo ; commit commit commit ; bzr merge lp:drizzle [20:05] lifeless: so that I keep all of the revision history intact (I'm not interested in git-style collapsing) [20:06] lifeless: but it doesn't really work for anything non-trivial, so I gave up [20:06] mtaylor: I don't see that they would differ in that manner [20:07] lifeless: they has ambiguous antecedant here [20:07] using rebase or merge [20:07] would seem to have the same identical preservation of revisio history [20:07] oh, well, using rebase doesn't leave you with one or more "merged trunk" revisions after my work [20:08] thats true, but thats not really about 'preserved history' is it? [20:08] lifeless: oh, no. by preserved history I meant preserved sequence of commits that I made [20:09] their relation to a particular starting point in the tree is (sometimes) less interesting [20:09] long as you retest each one individually ;) [20:10] lifeless: yes... or if you happen to know that they don't have any relation to the changes that streamed in to trunk... but yeah. it's not a total replacement, there are just times when it seemed like it would be nicer [20:10] lifeless: again though - doesn't work, so sort of moot [20:10] did you file bugs? [20:10] Rewriting history is a bad idea in code and in real life. :) [20:11] jkakar: it can be a very powerful tool [20:11] jkakar: we shouldn't discard the tool because it /can/ have bad implications. We should just make them obvious, and support avoiding them. [20:11] lifeless: Yeah, I know. But it seems like the thing you'd need once in a while, not as a rule. [20:11] lifeless: I think I did. and then I think I noticed that nothing had been touched in month [20:11] months [20:12] lifeless: Right, agreed. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === ahasenack is now known as ahasenack-away [20:37] hello crew, I want my git branches for my debian/ubuntu packages to appear linked to me in launchpad, how can I achieve this? [20:39] blackxored: Could you explain a little more what you mean? Possibly with an example? [20:39] maxb I maintain my packages in git.debian.org === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta [20:40] since I'm starting to be more active on ubuntu as well [20:40] I want the branches to be listed and mirrored at launchpad [20:40] since my goal is that my packages will mostly be syncs [20:40] You can create automatic bzr imports of remote git branches.... but only for the git HEAD at the moment. [20:41] maxb, all right for now, enlighten me plz :) [20:42] I am at the VCSImport page [20:42] in project I assume I should set ubuntu [20:42] or can I be more specific [20:42] ? [20:42] Hello, is there a launchpad administrator here? I'm very interested in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/92509 [20:42] blackxored: Um. Can you show me a link to the git branch? [20:43] git://git.debian.org/pkg-java/azureus.git or http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/azureus.git for example [20:44] I suppose in the ideal world it would be registered as an import to a package branch associated with debian/sid [20:45] maxb, probably but sometimes (casually right now) I have diversion such as [20:45] hi, can I ask about launchpadlib here? [20:45] Unfortunately it appears that the vcs-import creation UI has not been updated since the concept of package branches was created [20:45] AlanBell: Yes, and you may even get an answer :-) [20:45] * blackxored is getting the link [20:46] ok, I am just getting started and failing at the first hurdle, from the instructions at https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib [20:46] http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/azureus.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu [20:46] when I try to set up the credentials and the cachedir I get AttributeError: type object 'Launchpad' has no attribute 'login_with' [20:46] maxb, here ^^^^ [20:47] and if I do dir(Launchpad) it has things like '_get_external_param_name', '_get_parameter_names', '_transform_resources_to_links', 'get_token_and_login', 'load', 'login', 'lp_attributes', 'lp_collections', 'lp_entries', 'lp_get_named_operation', 'lp_get_parameter', 'lp_has_parameter', 'lp_operations', 'lp_refresh'] [20:47] but no login_with [20:48] blackxored: Unfortunately the current importer is incapable of importing that [20:48] I supposed that :( [20:48] It can only import what HEAD points to, i.e. usually refs/heads/master [20:48] is even incapable of linking the package branches as well [20:49] master is for debian and there's no way I can change that :P [20:49] The ability to point at alternative heads is definitely near the top of people's lists for things to fix [20:50] maxb, probably yes [20:50] maybe when I get some time :P I could provide some help, but no promises [20:50] I've been contemplating looking at it myself [20:50] thanks for your help anyways, seems like I'll stick to git and things as they are [20:51] the launchpadlib I am using is on an up to date Jaunty box, installed the easy way from the repos [20:51] AlanBell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/333378/ <--- my personal "just playing around with launchpadlib" script [20:52] maxb: thanks, looks useful [20:52] I want to enumerate all the members of a group and it's subgroup and watch for changes [20:53] so your script is using get_token_and_login [20:54] I can see that but I can't see launchpad.login_with [20:57] If you're still using the launchpadlib shipped with Jaunty.... I think you should definitely update [20:57] 0.2~bzr35-0ubuntu1 vs. 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 in karmic ... huuuuuge difference [20:57] ok, will fire up a Karmic and try again [20:58] It should be somewhat feasible to install the newer launchpadlib on jaunty, I would hope [20:58] Karmic is fine if that is the reason [20:58] in fact anything is fine as long as I understand it [21:00] barry: hello, may I talk to you? [21:00] moradan: yes, but i'm about to go on a phone call, duration unknown [21:02] yay, login_with does exist in Karmic === ahasenack-away is now known as ahasenack [21:04] barry: my question is the same as yesterday (approximately 22-23 hours ago) and there is some time - you helped me a lot and now lead-developer of the projects' program wrote a question https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/92509 - I just wanted to point this. [21:05] hmm, tried to log in to the wiki to add a note about Jaunty and I am looking at a big moinMoin error [21:07] moradan: that looks good to me. i will have to assign this to a losa since i do not have permission, but i think it will be fine [21:07] thanks [21:16] ok, logged in now. I changed the installation instructions a bit, https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#The launchpadlib in Ubuntu (easy to install) === mbarnett changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: barry | **Launchpad will be down/in read-only from 22:00 UTC until 23:30 UTC for a code update ** Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [21:38] moradan: i've assigned the question to the losas. please let me know if it's not resolved in the next few days [21:39] moradan: with a launchpad release coming up, please be patient [21:39] Well, we can hope it all goes smoothly and the losas are bored tomorrow :-) [21:39] maxb: +1 [21:40] +2*10^23 [21:40] AlanBell: i see your wiki change. thanks [21:40] mbarnett: OverflowError [21:40] doh! [21:41] barry: no problem [21:41] I am now having lots of fun browsing about launchpad with python [21:41] You have 18¼ minutes left... [21:42] maxb: sounds like you're talking to richard nixon [21:45] thanks a lot === mbarnett changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: barry | **Launchpad will be down/in read-only from 22:30 UTC until 23:30 UTC for a code update ** Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev [22:00] mbarnett: You're a tease :) [22:05] :) [22:07] how do i delete comments on bugs? i made a doublepost by mistake === dreimark_ is now known as dreimark === mbarnett changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: barry | **Launchpad will be down/in read-only from 23:00 UTC until 23:45 UTC for a code update ** Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev === mbarnett changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: barry | **Launchpad will be down/in read-only from 0:00 UTC until 01:30 UTC for a code update ** Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev === Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U