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cody-somervillemoo00:15
cody-somervillehttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/332702/00:15
tsimpsoncody-somerville: staff have already taken action00:16
cody-somervilleAs in k-lined?00:16
cody-somervilleI set a ban on  *!fisher@unaffiliated/garrythefish but I'm unsure if thats correct so I wanted to double check but I suppose thats not necessary if Freenode staff took action, eh?00:17
jpdscody-somerville: All done already.00:17
tsimpsonthat ban is wrong though00:17
cody-somervilleHow would I have gone about doing it correctly?00:18
jpdscody-somerville: *!*fisher@...00:19
tsimpsonbetter to use ?=00:19
tsimpson*!?=fisher@unaffiliated/garrythefish00:19
tsimpsonbut they probably lost their cloak anyway :)00:19
cody-somervilleok :]00:20
Picijpds: I was going to say that ubot5 is joining everywhere00:31
jpdsPici: Yeah, I killed it.00:31
jpdsThere it goes.00:31
jpds-devel.00:46
jpdsPici: ^^00:46
tsimpsonjpds: I set ubottu to ignore Cytotoxic globally :)00:49
jpdsHaha.00:49
jpdstsimpson: Maybe you should tell him that.00:49
tsimpsonI could00:50
* tsimpson prepares for /msg spam00:51
ubottuMeow234 called the ops in #ubuntu-devel ()00:53
tsimpsonI adapted to his adaptations00:54
tsimpsonjpds: that's why I didn't tell him to begin with ;)00:55
tsimpson!staff | can you deal with Meow234 in #ubuntu-kernel please00:57
ubottucan you deal with Meow234 in #ubuntu-kernel please: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)00:57
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mdeonteelky: ping02:07
elkymdeonte, hi.02:07
mdeonteelky: so?02:07
elkymdeonte, would you believe that I hear things from channels that I'm not even in. Such as -chicago.02:08
mdeonteelky: that has nothing to do with this02:08
mdeontethat was between me, and him02:08
elkyi heard that you threatened people there yesterday for not sympathising with your plight. that's not giving me any confidence that you are going to behave.02:08
mdeonteelky: You heard wrong then.02:09
elky19:25:54 [   mdeonte] tronyx: I wish you were in chicago. i would seriously kick your ass02:10
elkysee, i dont see how i'm hearing that wrong.02:10
mdeonteelky: It is out of contex02:10
* mdeonte spelt that wrong02:10
Seeker`I'm not sure how context can change "kick your ass"02:11
elkythe context being?02:11
mdeonteI dont remember the whole entire conversation.02:12
mdeonteSeeker`: thanks for your input02:12
Seeker`np, I do what I can02:13
mdeonteSeeker`: sarcasm02:14
Seeker`oh? really?02:15
elkymdeonte, at this point, until I can be assured that your general behaviour no longer includes threats (even against freenode staff) or pranking large support channels because you're bored, the ban in #ubuntu stands. It will not be lifted at this time.02:15
mdeonteelky: what the hell? Are you serious?02:16
elkyI am serious.02:16
mdeonteelky: why?02:16
mdeonteelky: why're letting something that happened in a whole other channel affect anything02:17
Seeker`because you are the same person no matter what channel it happens on02:17
elkymdeonte, it's not just *a* channel. It's a culmination of advice from numerous sources and numerous channels.02:17
elkyyou are not banned because of -chicago. You are banned because you exploited a 1500 person support channel.02:18
elky-chicago's events are your character reference, and they do not paint a positive picture.02:18
mdeonteelky: and 5 people clicked on that link. you're acting like everyone did02:19
elkyit only takes one of those people to spread that "ubuntu's support channel exploited me"02:19
mdeonteelky: so when do i get unbanned02:22
elkyI will not be lifting your ban today. I need to see a general behaviour improvement before I am willing to do so.02:22
elkyWhan i see a documented behaviour improvement.02:22
mdeonteomfg bye02:23
* pleia2 hugs elky 02:24
pleia2you rock for being so patient with him :)02:24
elkyI thought about triggering !appeals, but i think that it might be a bit unfair to send him to waste your and nix's time instead of mine.02:26
ubottuIn ubottu, jadakren said: !devede is <reply> DeVeDe is a program to create video DVDs, suitables for home players, from any number of video files, in any of the formats supported by Mplayer. It allows user to create subtitles and even menus. It lives in the multiverse repository03:08
elkyoh really now...03:52
macoelky: ?03:52
elkysee quit message immediately above03:52
vorianso the CC is taking over the IRC council?04:34
vorianhello all, I was wondering if you all would be willing and able to give a testimonial on my wiki page for my run for the IRC council04:49
vorianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/StephenStalcup04:49
vorian:)04:49
elkyvorian, I appreciate that you think that's funny, but I'd rather not have the trolls echoing it under the impression you're being genuine.04:52
vorianfrom what i've been readin g elky, it seems to be quite the impression I am getting04:53
elkyThen you're reading different stuff to what I am.04:56
ubottulifeless called the ops in #ubuntu-devel (MBCR (on #ubuntu-motu) - not feeding the troll directly)05:01
vorianon it05:04
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (JonathanWinters)07:00
Tm_Tok, this is, errrr07:22
Madpilothmm?07:22
Tm_Thas garrythefish hit ubuntu channels?07:22
Madpilotnot that I've noticed07:23
Madpilotmaking the rounds elsewhere?07:23
Tm_Tjust noticed he hit our loco channel sometime last night07:23
Tm_T0127.59 < garrythefish> that's what's the problem with the lesbos at #ubuntu-women07:23
Madpilotlovely specimen07:24
Madpilotof something, anyway07:24
jussi01Tm_T: yes, and tomaw did something iirc07:24
jussi01backlog ftw Tm_T07:24
jussi01:D07:24
Tm_Tjussi01: thanks07:24
Madpilotwhowas isn't showing anything useful07:25
tsimpson/whowas only works for 2 hours iirc07:28
Madpilotyeah07:29
Tm_Tweird night in overall07:39
dholbachgood morning07:49
jussi01tsimpson: Huomenta dholbach07:53
jussi01whoops07:53
dholbachjussi01: Huomenta to you too! :)07:53
jussi01*g* well you can see who I was talking to last...07:53
dholbach... whatever it means :)07:53
jussi01dholbach: its finnish for good morning07:54
jussi01roughly translated07:54
* maco snorts07:54
jussi01maco: ?07:54
maco@ "...whatever it means"07:54
jussi01hehe07:55
mneptokuseful Finnish phrase: "käyhän että tuon kannettavani saunaan?"08:07
mneptok"is it OK to bring my laptop in the sauna?"08:07
macowhich of those is "laptop"?08:08
Tm_Tmaco: kannettava08:08
mneptokkannettavani08:08
topylimneptok, :)08:09
elkyof course, finnish laptops are made to endure sauna humidity?08:09
Madpilotawesome. kick someone from #ubuntu for being rude, and get a string of scatalogical PMs.08:10
Tm_Telky: and 80+ C temps?08:10
topylia laptop might be considered a faux pas in the more conservative sauna circles. cellphones are always ok though!08:11
elkyTm_T, i think the chips tend to handle that heat for longer than they do contact with water.08:11
ubottumaco called the ops in #ubuntu (arthuza)08:12
Tm_Telky: true, though combination is nice either way08:12
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from arthuza)08:12
* mneptok dumps all the remaining water on the heater at once.08:14
mneptokavantouinti!08:14
* jussi01 adds a little beer to the water08:17
Madpilotakavit or vodka, surely?08:19
Mamaroktopyli: only Nokia ones I guess08:19
jussi01Madpilot: no no no08:20
topylicarrying a non-nokia one in public in finland is risky business to begin with08:20
jussi01Madpilot: a little beer added to the water thrown on the sauna gives a lovely fresh bread smell, because of the yeast in the beer.08:21
topyliMadpilot, beer yields a nice bread-like fragrance08:21
Madpilotcool. there's my piece of trivia for the day.08:21
Madpilotnext time I'm in a private sauna, I shall have to try that!08:22
jussi01do so :D08:22
mneptoktopyli: i was allowed to carry my Blackberry because it has UMA. the Finns found that to be intriguing.08:24
macouma?08:24
topylimneptok, isn't uma the thing that lets you roam between gsm and wifi?08:25
mneptokGSM over 802.1108:25
mneptokso at Monty's in Finland i connected to his WAP, and was able to use T-Mo in the US with no charge or minutes usage.08:26
ikoniathank you Madpilot09:52
Madpilotnp. what's the JonathanWinters banforward for, ikonia?09:52
ikoniaMadpilot: persistant offensive behaviour, and bad command/advice09:53
ikoniahe was a problem for a while but his advice was solid, he's now become rude/problem/offensive/ and changed his advice to bad, there have been multiple individual incidents but it's now becoming the norm09:54
Madpilotthe nick came up recently, can't remember if it was earlier this evening or last night my time09:54
ikoniabeen a few times recently, but he's been around at least for a few months09:55
ikonialike the chance to talk to him before assuming he's just turned to %100 being a problem09:55
ikoniathis sort of thing09:55
ikonia07:00 < JonathanWinters> zerq spoken like a true linux fag09:55
ikonia07:00 < JonathanWinters> yeah because ur using linux and ur gay09:56
ikoniaI can only assume the worst09:56
Madpilotdidn't I kick him for that outburst? I don't keep scrollback beyond a few hundred lines.09:56
ikoniaMadpilot: you sure did, but as I said it's one of many incidents now09:57
ikoniaso time for a conversation or a flat ban09:57
Madpilotfor sure09:57
macoyeah he was telling people delete system32 and called a russian speaker a communist10:00
macoyesterday i think10:00
ikoniathat is the same guy10:00
macoyes i was trying to find the jonathanwinters bit i remembered in my scrollback10:01
ikoniaeveryone slips, but he's had a questionable approach from day one, and now it appears there is no positive side to his comments10:03
jussi01it may be that he just needs a word, "hey, thats not acceptable" - or have you done that already?10:12
ikoniajussi01: he's had a pm when he first started with his less problematic behaviour to push him in the right path, but now he appears to have stepped up a gear, so I've forwarded him for a more detailed discussion10:13
jussi01ikonia: excellent10:13
jussi01just try to remember that he isnt necessarily "evil" or "bad", perhaps just frustrated with something and this is how he is expressing it.10:14
ikoniabased on his comments I'm inclned to disagree, but thats why he's forwaded here to find out10:17
jussi01true, but its a matter of finding out, not assuming from the start is what Im trying to say :)10:20
ikoniathat's why he's forwaded here, but to be honest, I have to assume he's trying to be an issue, that's why he's forwadeded here10:21
ikoniaeyeballs aware of om26er in #ubuntu10:27
tsimpsonI'm putting myself forward for the IRC Council, comments welcome on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TerenceSimpson :)11:29
tsimpson</spam>11:29
bazhanghehe not spam at all :)11:29
bazhangwish I were an Ubuntu member this one time11:29
tsimpsonnothing stopping you from applying for ubuntu membership11:30
tsimpsonI got mine for mostly IRC stuff :)11:30
bazhangwith Karma at Kelvin, and only 'help' on IRC, seems doubtful11:30
jussi01bazhang: you are a fine candidate for ubuntu membership11:31
bazhangjussi01, thanks :)11:31
tsimpsonhelp in #ubuntu is a sustained contribution to Ubuntu, by any definition11:31
bazhangperhaps if I clean up #ubuntu-tw and #ubuntu-cn channels from bots11:31
jussi01exactly what I was typing11:31
jussi01bazhang: really, the continuing contribution you give to #ubuntu is well enough11:32
Mamarokbazhang: yep, you should apply, you clearly qualify as a member11:32
bazhangMamarok, thanks! and hi :)11:33
Mamarokhi bazhang :)11:33
bazhangMamarok, always reading your help on the mailing lists :)11:33
Mamarok:)11:33
MenZajussi01: It's really only a question of formalities now :)14:43
MenZajussi01: I checked my wiki page last night to find this:14:43
MenZa"My irc logs don't go back far enough to not have MenZa in them. He has been helping on IRC since forever and should have applied for membership years ago -- Dennis Kaarsemaker"14:44
topyliMenZa, yeah, that's a great testimony14:57
Tm_TMenZa: I think someone should write something even slightly negative to give it more realistic touch (;)14:57
bazhanghehe15:05
MenZaTm_T: lol15:25
Piciubottu: whoami15:28
ubottuuse @whoami15:28
Pici@whoami15:28
Picihrm15:28
MenZa!whoami15:28
MenZahmmm15:28
topyliwhich reminds me, i should add something to MenZa's wiki too15:31
topylinot necessarily negative :)15:31
MenZa:D15:33
topyli"i'm sure he means well"15:34
* MenZa giggles15:34
PiciEmailed nalioth regarding ubot3 and also to check whether hes okay.15:42
* MenZa nods15:43
MenZaHis lack of activity recently is *nothing* like him :\15:43
PiciThats his bot, right?15:43
MenZaEr, moment15:43
Pici(yes, it is)15:43
MenZaubot315:44
MenZaUses a slightly older ubotu source and current database. Ran by nalioth - idles on LoCoTeam channels.15:44
MenZa:)15:44
PiciMenZa: Whats that from?15:44
MenZaPici: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:44
PiciMenZa: oh. I checked /msg nickserv info ubot315:44
MenZaor one could do that15:45
MenZa:15:45
MenZaP15:45
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ubottuIn #ubuntu, lionstone said: ubottu, Ljl: apt is running21:22
ikoniahey nalioth21:31
naliothhowdy all21:36
ikoniawelcome back, people where worried21:38
Mamarokoh, hi nalioth :)21:40
naliothmy contact info is all over the web. anyone in the USA can call me free of charge, and i've got an SMS gateway set up for folks outside the US21:40
naliothhi Mamarok21:40
ikonianalioth: I don't think anyone was THAT worried21:40
ikoniajust nice to see you active21:40
* nalioth hasn't had a holiday in years21:41
ikoniaah, so a well earned one21:41
ikoniahello Ed5421:45
Ed54i really should remove #ubuntu from my autojoin channels :|21:45
ikoniaor fix your scripts21:46
Ed54i like my scripts21:46
Ed54and they don't get in the way anyway21:46
ikoniaok, then I'll change it to a ban forward to a ban21:46
Ed54who's going to do #rude?21:46
Ed54err, !rude21:46
ikoniayou may want to change your auto join scripts21:47
Ed54the invite one?21:47
ikoniano, the one that sets you to join #ubuntu when you start your client21:47
Ed54xchat does that automatically21:48
Ed54and i changed it21:48
ikoniagreat,21:48
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Spookje said: ubottu, dutch channel is ok ;-)23:42

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