[00:15] <cody-somerville> moo
[00:15] <cody-somerville> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/332702/
[00:16] <tsimpson> cody-somerville: staff have already taken action
[00:16] <cody-somerville> As in k-lined?
[00:17] <cody-somerville> I set a ban on  *!fisher@unaffiliated/garrythefish but I'm unsure if thats correct so I wanted to double check but I suppose thats not necessary if Freenode staff took action, eh?
[00:17] <jpds> cody-somerville: All done already.
[00:17] <tsimpson> that ban is wrong though
[00:18] <cody-somerville> How would I have gone about doing it correctly?
[00:19] <jpds> cody-somerville: *!*fisher@...
[00:19] <tsimpson> better to use ?=
[00:19] <tsimpson> *!?=fisher@unaffiliated/garrythefish
[00:19] <tsimpson> but they probably lost their cloak anyway :)
[00:20] <cody-somerville> ok :]
[00:31] <Pici> jpds: I was going to say that ubot5 is joining everywhere
[00:31] <jpds> Pici: Yeah, I killed it.
[00:31] <jpds> There it goes.
[00:46] <jpds> -devel.
[00:46] <jpds> Pici: ^^
[00:49] <tsimpson> jpds: I set ubottu to ignore Cytotoxic globally :)
[00:49] <jpds> Haha.
[00:49] <jpds> tsimpson: Maybe you should tell him that.
[00:50] <tsimpson> I could
[00:51]  * tsimpson prepares for /msg spam
[00:54] <tsimpson> I adapted to his adaptations
[00:55] <tsimpson> jpds: that's why I didn't tell him to begin with ;)
[00:57] <tsimpson> !staff | can you deal with Meow234 in #ubuntu-kernel please
[02:07] <mdeonte> elky: ping
[02:07] <elky> mdeonte, hi.
[02:07] <mdeonte> elky: so?
[02:08] <elky> mdeonte, would you believe that I hear things from channels that I'm not even in. Such as -chicago.
[02:08] <mdeonte> elky: that has nothing to do with this
[02:08] <mdeonte> that was between me, and him
[02:08] <elky> i heard that you threatened people there yesterday for not sympathising with your plight. that's not giving me any confidence that you are going to behave.
[02:09] <mdeonte> elky: You heard wrong then.
[02:10] <elky> 19:25:54 [   mdeonte] tronyx: I wish you were in chicago. i would seriously kick your ass
[02:10] <elky> see, i dont see how i'm hearing that wrong.
[02:10] <mdeonte> elky: It is out of contex
[02:10]  * mdeonte spelt that wrong
[02:11] <Seeker`> I'm not sure how context can change "kick your ass"
[02:11] <elky> the context being?
[02:12] <mdeonte> I dont remember the whole entire conversation.
[02:12] <mdeonte> Seeker`: thanks for your input
[02:13] <Seeker`> np, I do what I can
[02:14] <mdeonte> Seeker`: sarcasm
[02:15] <Seeker`> oh? really?
[02:15] <elky> mdeonte, at this point, until I can be assured that your general behaviour no longer includes threats (even against freenode staff) or pranking large support channels because you're bored, the ban in #ubuntu stands. It will not be lifted at this time.
[02:16] <mdeonte> elky: what the hell? Are you serious?
[02:16] <elky> I am serious.
[02:16] <mdeonte> elky: why?
[02:17] <mdeonte> elky: why're letting something that happened in a whole other channel affect anything
[02:17] <Seeker`> because you are the same person no matter what channel it happens on
[02:17] <elky> mdeonte, it's not just *a* channel. It's a culmination of advice from numerous sources and numerous channels.
[02:18] <elky> you are not banned because of -chicago. You are banned because you exploited a 1500 person support channel.
[02:18] <elky> -chicago's events are your character reference, and they do not paint a positive picture.
[02:19] <mdeonte> elky: and 5 people clicked on that link. you're acting like everyone did
[02:19] <elky> it only takes one of those people to spread that "ubuntu's support channel exploited me"
[02:22] <mdeonte> elky: so when do i get unbanned
[02:22] <elky> I will not be lifting your ban today. I need to see a general behaviour improvement before I am willing to do so.
[02:22] <elky> Whan i see a documented behaviour improvement.
[02:23] <mdeonte> omfg bye
[02:24]  * pleia2 hugs elky 
[02:24] <pleia2> you rock for being so patient with him :)
[02:26] <elky> I thought about triggering !appeals, but i think that it might be a bit unfair to send him to waste your and nix's time instead of mine.
[03:52] <elky> oh really now...
[03:52] <maco> elky: ?
[03:52] <elky> see quit message immediately above
[04:34] <vorian> so the CC is taking over the IRC council?
[04:49] <vorian> hello all, I was wondering if you all would be willing and able to give a testimonial on my wiki page for my run for the IRC council
[04:49] <vorian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StephenStalcup
[04:49] <vorian> :)
[04:52] <elky> vorian, I appreciate that you think that's funny, but I'd rather not have the trolls echoing it under the impression you're being genuine.
[04:53] <vorian> from what i've been readin g elky, it seems to be quite the impression I am getting
[04:56] <elky> Then you're reading different stuff to what I am.
[05:04] <vorian> on it
[07:22] <Tm_T> ok, this is, errrr
[07:22] <Madpilot> hmm?
[07:22] <Tm_T> has garrythefish hit ubuntu channels?
[07:23] <Madpilot> not that I've noticed
[07:23] <Madpilot> making the rounds elsewhere?
[07:23] <Tm_T> just noticed he hit our loco channel sometime last night
[07:23] <Tm_T> 0127.59 < garrythefish> that's what's the problem with the lesbos at #ubuntu-women
[07:24] <Madpilot> lovely specimen
[07:24] <Madpilot> of something, anyway
[07:24] <jussi01> Tm_T: yes, and tomaw did something iirc
[07:24] <jussi01> backlog ftw Tm_T
[07:24] <jussi01> :D
[07:24] <Tm_T> jussi01: thanks
[07:25] <Madpilot> whowas isn't showing anything useful
[07:28] <tsimpson> /whowas only works for 2 hours iirc
[07:29] <Madpilot> yeah
[07:39] <Tm_T> weird night in overall
[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[07:53] <jussi01> tsimpson: Huomenta dholbach
[07:53] <jussi01> whoops
[07:53] <dholbach> jussi01: Huomenta to you too! :)
[07:53] <jussi01> *g* well you can see who I was talking to last...
[07:53] <dholbach> ... whatever it means :)
[07:54] <jussi01> dholbach: its finnish for good morning
[07:54] <jussi01> roughly translated
[07:54]  * maco snorts
[07:54] <jussi01> maco: ?
[07:54] <maco> @ "...whatever it means"
[07:55] <jussi01> hehe
[08:07] <mneptok> useful Finnish phrase: "käyhän että tuon kannettavani saunaan?"
[08:07] <mneptok> "is it OK to bring my laptop in the sauna?"
[08:08] <maco> which of those is "laptop"?
[08:08] <Tm_T> maco: kannettava
[08:08] <mneptok> kannettavani
[08:09] <topyli> mneptok, :)
[08:09] <elky> of course, finnish laptops are made to endure sauna humidity?
[08:10] <Madpilot> awesome. kick someone from #ubuntu for being rude, and get a string of scatalogical PMs.
[08:10] <Tm_T> elky: and 80+ C temps?
[08:11] <topyli> a laptop might be considered a faux pas in the more conservative sauna circles. cellphones are always ok though!
[08:11] <elky> Tm_T, i think the chips tend to handle that heat for longer than they do contact with water.
[08:12] <Tm_T> elky: true, though combination is nice either way
[08:14]  * mneptok dumps all the remaining water on the heater at once.
[08:14] <mneptok> avantouinti!
[08:17]  * jussi01 adds a little beer to the water
[08:19] <Madpilot> akavit or vodka, surely?
[08:19] <Mamarok> topyli: only Nokia ones I guess
[08:20] <jussi01> Madpilot: no no no
[08:20] <topyli> carrying a non-nokia one in public in finland is risky business to begin with
[08:21] <jussi01> Madpilot: a little beer added to the water thrown on the sauna gives a lovely fresh bread smell, because of the yeast in the beer.
[08:21] <topyli> Madpilot, beer yields a nice bread-like fragrance
[08:21] <Madpilot> cool. there's my piece of trivia for the day.
[08:22] <Madpilot> next time I'm in a private sauna, I shall have to try that!
[08:22] <jussi01> do so :D
[08:24] <mneptok> topyli: i was allowed to carry my Blackberry because it has UMA. the Finns found that to be intriguing.
[08:24] <maco> uma?
[08:25] <topyli> mneptok, isn't uma the thing that lets you roam between gsm and wifi?
[08:25] <mneptok> GSM over 802.11
[08:26] <mneptok> so at Monty's in Finland i connected to his WAP, and was able to use T-Mo in the US with no charge or minutes usage.
[09:52] <ikonia> thank you Madpilot
[09:52] <Madpilot> np. what's the JonathanWinters banforward for, ikonia?
[09:53] <ikonia> Madpilot: persistant offensive behaviour, and bad command/advice
[09:54] <ikonia> he was a problem for a while but his advice was solid, he's now become rude/problem/offensive/ and changed his advice to bad, there have been multiple individual incidents but it's now becoming the norm
[09:54] <Madpilot> the nick came up recently, can't remember if it was earlier this evening or last night my time
[09:55] <ikonia> been a few times recently, but he's been around at least for a few months
[09:55] <ikonia> like the chance to talk to him before assuming he's just turned to %100 being a problem
[09:55] <ikonia> this sort of thing
[09:55] <ikonia> 07:00 < JonathanWinters> zerq spoken like a true linux fag
[09:56] <ikonia> 07:00 < JonathanWinters> yeah because ur using linux and ur gay
[09:56] <ikonia> I can only assume the worst
[09:56] <Madpilot> didn't I kick him for that outburst? I don't keep scrollback beyond a few hundred lines.
[09:57] <ikonia> Madpilot: you sure did, but as I said it's one of many incidents now
[09:57] <ikonia> so time for a conversation or a flat ban
[09:57] <Madpilot> for sure
[10:00] <maco> yeah he was telling people delete system32 and called a russian speaker a communist
[10:00] <maco> yesterday i think
[10:00] <ikonia> that is the same guy
[10:01] <maco> yes i was trying to find the jonathanwinters bit i remembered in my scrollback
[10:03] <ikonia> everyone slips, but he's had a questionable approach from day one, and now it appears there is no positive side to his comments
[10:12] <jussi01> it may be that he just needs a word, "hey, thats not acceptable" - or have you done that already?
[10:13] <ikonia> jussi01: he's had a pm when he first started with his less problematic behaviour to push him in the right path, but now he appears to have stepped up a gear, so I've forwarded him for a more detailed discussion
[10:13] <jussi01> ikonia: excellent
[10:14] <jussi01> just try to remember that he isnt necessarily "evil" or "bad", perhaps just frustrated with something and this is how he is expressing it.
[10:17] <ikonia> based on his comments I'm inclned to disagree, but thats why he's forwaded here to find out
[10:20] <jussi01> true, but its a matter of finding out, not assuming from the start is what Im trying to say :)
[10:21] <ikonia> that's why he's forwaded here, but to be honest, I have to assume he's trying to be an issue, that's why he's forwadeded here
[10:27] <ikonia> eyeballs aware of om26er in #ubuntu
[11:29] <tsimpson> I'm putting myself forward for the IRC Council, comments welcome on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TerenceSimpson :)
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[11:29] <bazhang> hehe not spam at all :)
[11:29] <bazhang> wish I were an Ubuntu member this one time
[11:30] <tsimpson> nothing stopping you from applying for ubuntu membership
[11:30] <tsimpson> I got mine for mostly IRC stuff :)
[11:30] <bazhang> with Karma at Kelvin, and only 'help' on IRC, seems doubtful
[11:31] <jussi01> bazhang: you are a fine candidate for ubuntu membership
[11:31] <bazhang> jussi01, thanks :)
[11:31] <tsimpson> help in #ubuntu is a sustained contribution to Ubuntu, by any definition
[11:31] <bazhang> perhaps if I clean up #ubuntu-tw and #ubuntu-cn channels from bots
[11:31] <jussi01> exactly what I was typing
[11:32] <jussi01> bazhang: really, the continuing contribution you give to #ubuntu is well enough
[11:32] <Mamarok> bazhang: yep, you should apply, you clearly qualify as a member
[11:33] <bazhang> Mamarok, thanks! and hi :)
[11:33] <Mamarok> hi bazhang :)
[11:33] <bazhang> Mamarok, always reading your help on the mailing lists :)
[11:33] <Mamarok> :)
[14:43] <MenZa> jussi01: It's really only a question of formalities now :)
[14:43] <MenZa> jussi01: I checked my wiki page last night to find this:
[14:44] <MenZa> "My irc logs don't go back far enough to not have MenZa in them. He has been helping on IRC since forever and should have applied for membership years ago -- Dennis Kaarsemaker"
[14:57] <topyli> MenZa, yeah, that's a great testimony
[14:57] <Tm_T> MenZa: I think someone should write something even slightly negative to give it more realistic touch (;)
[15:05] <bazhang> hehe
[15:25] <MenZa> Tm_T: lol
[15:28] <Pici> ubottu: whoami
[15:28] <Pici> @whoami
[15:28] <Pici> hrm
[15:28] <MenZa> !whoami
[15:28] <MenZa> hmmm
[15:31] <topyli> which reminds me, i should add something to MenZa's wiki too
[15:31] <topyli> not necessarily negative :)
[15:33] <MenZa> :D
[15:34] <topyli> "i'm sure he means well"
[15:34]  * MenZa giggles
[15:42] <Pici> Emailed nalioth regarding ubot3 and also to check whether hes okay.
[15:43]  * MenZa nods
[15:43] <MenZa> His lack of activity recently is *nothing* like him :\
[15:43] <Pici> Thats his bot, right?
[15:43] <MenZa> Er, moment
[15:43] <Pici> (yes, it is)
[15:44] <MenZa> ubot3
[15:44] <MenZa> Uses a slightly older ubotu source and current database. Ran by nalioth - idles on LoCoTeam channels.
[15:44] <MenZa> :)
[15:44] <Pici> MenZa: Whats that from?
[15:44] <MenZa> Pici: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:44] <Pici> MenZa: oh. I checked /msg nickserv info ubot3
[15:45] <MenZa> or one could do that
[15:45] <MenZa> :
[15:45] <MenZa> P
[21:31] <ikonia> hey nalioth
[21:36] <nalioth> howdy all
[21:38] <ikonia> welcome back, people where worried
[21:40] <Mamarok> oh, hi nalioth :)
[21:40] <nalioth> my contact info is all over the web. anyone in the USA can call me free of charge, and i've got an SMS gateway set up for folks outside the US
[21:40] <nalioth> hi Mamarok
[21:40] <ikonia> nalioth: I don't think anyone was THAT worried
[21:40] <ikonia> just nice to see you active
[21:41]  * nalioth hasn't had a holiday in years
[21:41] <ikonia> ah, so a well earned one
[21:45] <ikonia> hello Ed54
[21:45] <Ed54> i really should remove #ubuntu from my autojoin channels :|
[21:46] <ikonia> or fix your scripts
[21:46] <Ed54> i like my scripts
[21:46] <Ed54> and they don't get in the way anyway
[21:46] <ikonia> ok, then I'll change it to a ban forward to a ban
[21:46] <Ed54> who's going to do #rude?
[21:46] <Ed54> err, !rude
[21:47] <ikonia> you may want to change your auto join scripts
[21:47] <Ed54> the invite one?
[21:47] <ikonia> no, the one that sets you to join #ubuntu when you start your client
[21:48] <Ed54> xchat does that automatically
[21:48] <Ed54> and i changed it
[21:48] <ikonia> great,