| RoyK | baccenfutter: wtf - who did? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| baccenfutter | the garrythefish guy | 00:04 |
| lunaphyte | how can i show the real group and effective group for processes in he output of ps? | 00:41 |
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| thenetduck | hi, i'm setting up postfix on my hardy heron server and I was wondering what would the best option be for a website that sends simple emails for welcome and orders? | 00:57 |
| thenetduck | there is "internet site" internet site with smarthost" | 00:57 |
| thenetduck | and some other options | 00:57 |
| lunaphyte | isn't there already a mail server on your network you can use? | 00:58 |
| thenetduck | lunaphyte: i'm using a slice from slicehost | 01:05 |
| thenetduck | I don't know, i'm kind of new to the mail server thing | 01:05 |
| thenetduck | there is something called sendmail I think | 01:05 |
| thenetduck | to be honest, I acutally need some realy help getting my mail server set up | 01:06 |
| lunaphyte | running a mail server isn't trivial. you really should employ someone who can ensure things go well. | 01:06 |
| thenetduck | lunaphyte: I have no money, I guess this is more of a learning experience | 01:07 |
| thenetduck | now if I had a job... haha | 01:07 |
| lunaphyte | employ doesn't necessarily mean money. | 01:07 |
| lunaphyte | does slicehost provide a mailserver for their customers to use? if so i would just use that. | 01:08 |
| thenetduck | um, I don't know I should ask | 01:09 |
| lunaphyte | probably a good idea. | 01:09 |
| thenetduck | I guess the problem is my rails app uses :sendmail for the server | 01:10 |
| lunaphyte | that's no problem. | 01:10 |
| lunaphyte | assuming your provider provides a mail server, all you need is a null client, not an mta. | 01:11 |
| mrchrisadams | lunaphyte: how does that normally work? | 01:11 |
| lunaphyte | what? | 01:11 |
| lumpEee | greetings all | 01:12 |
| mrchrisadams | I have one account with webfaction which has a mailserver at mail.webfaction that I can send mail through from an app | 01:12 |
| mrchrisadams | much like thenetduck | 01:12 |
| mrchrisadams | but I've recently started using a vps | 01:12 |
| mrchrisadams | which doesn't explicitly have a mail server for this | 01:12 |
| lumpEee | this is support channel for ubunter server correct? | 01:13 |
| mrchrisadams | or at least there isn't something like mail.vpscompany.com, like webfaction provided | 01:13 |
| thenetduck | lumpEee: no it's for elephants who like to eat peanuts | 01:13 |
| lunaphyte | mrchrisadams: you'd just have to ask, like thenetduck | 01:13 |
| lumpEee | oh good i fit in there too | 01:13 |
| thenetduck | haha | 01:13 |
| lumpEee | and thenetduck, likely i will have more dumb Qs | 01:15 |
| mrchrisadams | ah, "A null client is a machine that can only send mail. " - http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html | 01:15 |
| thenetduck | lumpEee: i'm pretty much the biggest noob on the chanell so ask away ahah | 01:16 |
| lumpEee | I like ubuntu, have needs best met by a server and am rather a n00b at ubuntu server | 01:16 |
| lumpEee | i ain't even ready to ask yet | 01:16 |
| lumpEee | i am reading through docs and figured it be a good idea to lurk here a bit | 01:16 |
| lumpEee | i love ubuntu though | 01:17 |
| lumpEee | just not used to any type of server stuff outside of CPanel | 01:17 |
| thedoble | lumpEee: feel free to lurk, I'm a windows sysadmin who'se slowly converting to the dark side :) | 01:19 |
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| thenetduck | lunaphyte: well they do but it's 10/month for it. I'm not paying that haha | 01:19 |
| lunaphyte | no surprise there. | 01:19 |
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| lumpEee | thedoble, i still have a ME machine running.. lol | 01:20 |
| lumpEee | other than that one XP and the other 4 all flavors of ubuntu | 01:20 |
| thedoble | lumpEee: heh, I am not yet a fan of ubuntu desktop, but I like the server version a lot. I have a macbook now as well so I am slowly weaning myself off microsoft ! | 01:22 |
| lumpEee | i have the studio version, the net book remix version, the desktop (although I mostly use it as storage via the network) and just build a server | 01:23 |
| mneptok | oh yes. Apple is a *much* more open company than is Microsoft. they treat their users with respect, assuming them to be intelligent and capable. | 01:23 |
| mneptok | </sarcasm> | 01:23 |
| lumpEee | i am rather fond of the way they did the netbook version | 01:24 |
| lumpEee | i really like it on this Eee | 01:24 |
| lumpEee | studio is also very good with a real time kernel | 01:24 |
| thedoble | lol | 01:26 |
| lumpEee | but as for the desktop version. I just set up file sharing and it sits in my lr | 01:26 |
| lumpEee | my7 migration seem to be more toward ubuntu than "a company that used to be deifned by a band" | 01:28 |
| lumpEee | heh | 01:28 |
| lumpEee | sorry i am an apple fan in another way | 01:29 |
| thedoble | i still struggle to get my head around linux file permissions in samba | 01:30 |
| lumpEee | thanks for saying that | 01:30 |
| lumpEee | one of the things i am having problems with myself | 01:31 |
| lumpEee | corect my n00b arse if wrong | 01:31 |
| lumpEee | it just don't seem to work right from the GUI | 01:32 |
| thedoble | i dont know, I don't use the GUI, but I do know that it can be really confusing in the command line too | 01:33 |
| thedoble | i think its just different | 01:33 |
| thedoble | and i need to relearn how i think about it | 01:33 |
| lumpEee | i am not afraid of cli | 01:34 |
| lumpEee | just reaaaal rusty at it | 01:34 |
| lumpEee | the last time i played with php it was 3.0 | 01:34 |
| lumpEee | i am just at a point where i really need a server | 01:36 |
| lumpEee | so it is time to hit the books again so to speak | 01:36 |
| thedoble | hehe | 01:38 |
| thedoble | i dont do much work with web servers | 01:38 |
| lumpEee | more of a database and media server in my case | 01:40 |
| thedoble | cool | 01:45 |
| thedoble | yeah i am mostly file/print/domain/email stuff | 01:45 |
| thedoble | small businesses | 01:46 |
| lumpEee | i do podcast and internet radio | 01:46 |
| lumpEee | i do all indie artists | 01:47 |
| lumpEee | i just need to create a server so that I am not the only one able to enter data to the database and add media to the streaming server | 01:48 |
| lumpEee | i know it can be done | 01:48 |
| lumpEee | i believe i am tech competent enough to do it | 01:48 |
| lumpEee | just not sure exactly how and gotta shake some rust out of me | 01:48 |
| thedoble | nice one | 01:49 |
| thedoble | sounds like a good project | 01:49 |
| thedoble | good luck :) | 01:49 |
| thedoble | have you read through the ubuntu official documentation ? | 01:49 |
| thedoble | some of it is brilliant stuff | 01:49 |
| lumpEee | i am doing that as i go back and forth | 01:50 |
| lumpEee | i have actually installed server 2x atm | 01:50 |
| lumpEee | each time i do so, i read more, figure out a bit more and decide the do-over is better | 01:51 |
| lumpEee | things have improved much since i played much with anything other than a CMS about 10 years ago | 01:51 |
| thedoble | hehe | 01:53 |
| lumpEee | and, again, that was all CPanel | 01:53 |
| lumpEee | i did not actually have to install everything | 01:53 |
| lumpEee | the docs are good though | 01:55 |
| lumpEee | i am just going through them with a highligher in oo right now | 01:55 |
| tonyyarusso | Hi, I was just looking over the server seeds proposals for Lucid. Two relatively minor questions regarding that: | 02:32 |
| tonyyarusso | 1) What's the rationale for dropping vlock? It's small, but has come in handy for me a few times. Is there a better replacement these days, or would it be dropped without a replacement in main? | 02:33 |
| lumpEee | gnight all | 02:33 |
| tonyyarusso | 2) Has there been any consideration given to possibly putting an IRCd in main, either for Lucid or later? | 02:36 |
| twb | tonyyarusso: !anyone :P | 02:39 |
| ScottK | tonyyarusso: You'll probably have more luck during when mathiaz`or ttx are around. | 02:44 |
| tonyyarusso | ScottK: all righty | 02:51 |
| * tonyyarusso idles | 02:51 | |
| marks256 | Say if i had a lab of 50 ubuntu computers, could i have an update server so i dont have to download 50 400mb updates (example size). Then i would only have to download 1 400mb set, then distribute it to the lab | 02:53 |
| twb | marks256: yes. | 02:53 |
| marks256 | twb, how would it work? | 02:54 |
| twb | It'd be even easier to simply use LTSP, so that you maintain one image and all the lab machines are updated automatically by rebooting | 02:54 |
| marks256 | yeah. LTSP would be nice. but i'm just asking for proof-of-concept | 02:54 |
| twb | But if you just want a local cache of package updates, I highly recommend debmirror. If you're very tight on bandwidth, you could try apt-cacher[-ng] or apt-proxy, but both have caused me huge problems in the past. | 02:55 |
| marks256 | twb, aah ok. repos dont mind keeping dumps of them though? | 02:55 |
| twb | In particular, one of them (apt-cacher?) is vulnerable to injection attacks by any client, which -- although being caught by checksumming -- might be overridden by an ignorant user. | 02:55 |
| twb | marks256: debmirror magically maintains a partial copy of the Ubuntu archive. | 02:56 |
| twb | e.g. you can tell it "keep a copy of hardy and hardy-security for i386 and amd64, but don't mirror the "games" section or the "universe" category." | 02:57 |
| marks256 | twb, neat! | 02:57 |
| twb | IIRC a single-arch, single-release mirror is on the order of 10 to 30GB. The updates each week are negligible (for stable releases) or significant (for ubuntu+1, testing and sid) | 02:58 |
| twb | The other thing you could do, which I haven't tried yet, is setting up apt-bittorrent. | 02:59 |
| marks256 | oh my that's not bad | 02:59 |
| marks256 | only 30gb? | 02:59 |
| twb | 31GB for --arch i386 --nosource --dist hardy,hardy-updates,hardy-security,hardy-backports --section main,restricted,universe,multiverse | 03:00 |
| twb | Unfortunately I don't keep a record of downloads per week | 03:01 |
| marks256 | wow | 03:02 |
| marks256 | i though it'd be more along the lines of a few hundred gb! | 03:02 |
| twb | Where that kind of size comes in is if you want to track all the arches that Debian supports | 03:03 |
| twb | Which according to type-handling, is: cpus [alpha amd64 arm armeb armel avr32 hppa i386 ia64 lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc] × systems [darwin freebsd hurd kfreebsd knetbsd kopensolaris linux netbsd openbsd solaris uclibc uclinux] | 03:04 |
| tonyyarusso | marks256: I've been keeping local mirrors for a while. For fine-grained control, ie for just one release, one architecture, I've been very happy with apt-mirror. I recently decided to do a full mirror, and I'm pulling that down with the ubumirror utility. | 03:09 |
| tonyyarusso | (Which, btw, I put in my PPA if you'd rather apt-get than bzr branch) | 03:09 |
| marks256 | twb, aah ok ok | 03:09 |
| marks256 | tonyyarusso, ok cool. this sounds quite useful | 03:10 |
| tonyyarusso | marks256: It's about 250GB for all supported releases, btw. | 03:10 |
| tonyyarusso | i386 and amd64. | 03:10 |
| marks256 | tonyyarusso, :o oh my | 03:11 |
| wolfrein | hi everybody | 03:16 |
| wolfrein | i have a problem with one of my ipsec tunnels | 03:16 |
| wolfrein | it doesnt come up when i do a racconctl fs isakmp followed by fs ipsec | 03:17 |
| wolfrein | the preshared key is not issued | 03:17 |
| wolfrein | when i check status, it shows all 0000000 in the preshared key position | 03:17 |
| wolfrein | please advise how i can rectify this | 03:17 |
| twb | tonyyarusso: have you used both apt-mirror and debmirror? Would you care to compare them briefly for me? | 03:21 |
| tonyyarusso | twb: I haven't tried debmirror, no. | 03:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #461444 in eucalyptus "memory leaks in NC: getConsoleOutput and startup_thread" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461444 | 03:22 |
| marks256 | tonyyarusso, twb, thanks for the hlep guys | 03:25 |
| wolfrein | please advise about the ipsec tunnel | 03:27 |
| twb | Why doesn't ntpd like to bind to my IPv6 address? http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=13480#a13480 | 03:56 |
| twb | Also, how can I just tell my 8.04 system to not use IPv6 at all? | 04:04 |
| Clusty_ | hey | 04:04 |
| Clusty_ | are there generally any issues when it comes to blooth dongles? | 04:04 |
| Clusty_ | or most chips are really supported | 04:04 |
| twb | Answer: change /etc/modprobe.d/aliases:alias net-pf-10 ipv6 from "ipv6" to "off". | 04:15 |
| MBCR | !ops | 05:00 |
| MBCR | !staff | 05:01 |
| ScottK | MBCR: What are you doing? | 05:01 |
| MBCR | calling the ops duh | 05:01 |
| MBCR | !ops | 05:01 |
| ScottK | Apparently not. Why? | 05:02 |
| Ninjix | hello all | 05:08 |
| Sorell | hi Ninjix | 05:11 |
| Ninjix | greetings Sorell | 05:15 |
| Ninjix | I'm looking to discuss Intel ICH10R "fakeraid" with anyone that has any production experience with them | 05:18 |
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| === Sorell_sleep_mod is now known as Sorrell_sleep_mo | ||
| twb | !anyone | 05:20 |
| ubottu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 05:20 |
| Ninjix | twb: Hi there | 05:25 |
| jmarsden | Ninjix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 05:35 |
| jmarsden | Basically, it doesn't make sense to use fakeraid on a server, software RAID is more flexible and performs as well. | 05:36 |
| Ninjix | jmarsden: Yes, I have always believed that but so many servers come with fakeraid now | 05:37 |
| Ninjix | jmarsden: and the tech has been around a few years now | 05:37 |
| jmarsden | Preconfigured Ubuntu servers that use fakeraid? Interesting. Just because the motherboard chip can do it doesn't make it a good choice for a Linux/Ubuntu server. | 05:38 |
| Ninjix | True | 05:40 |
| jmarsden | What would you hope to gain from using fakeraid -- how would it benefit your users or your sysadmins or your profit margin, compared to using software RAID ? | 05:41 |
| Ninjix | I having good success with Adaptec 2258100-R cards but would rather not have to shell out extra $400 | 05:41 |
| Ninjix | I trying to move as much of our data center to commodity hardware as possible | 05:42 |
| jmarsden | I don't think you'lld get hardware RAID performance from fakeraid; I think youu'd fine software RAID performance about equal to fakeraid... so then the chocie is between software RAID or hardware RAID... right? | 05:43 |
| Ninjix | Disk IO is a tough obstacle, though | 05:43 |
| jmarsden | Interesting... a lot of people are moving the other way -- a few big servers and virtualization, rather than many cheap servers. | 05:43 |
| Ninjix | ah.. don't get me wrong. I'm moving down that path as well | 05:43 |
| jmarsden | At the same time? So... a few really big fast but cheap commodity servers? :) Where can I find some of those? :) | 05:45 |
| Ninjix | this year we are moving off VMware and onto Ubuntu KVM virtualization | 05:45 |
| Ninjix | after spending tons of money on Dell and HP "enterprise" class hardware for years now, I sat back and ask my team how much of those enterprise features we were really using | 05:48 |
| Ninjix | the answer turned out to be very little | 05:49 |
| Ninjix | this made us rethink where we spend our money, especially with the economic condition of the last year | 05:50 |
| jmarsden | Sure... but you've had hard drives fail and may even have hot-swapped them when that happened... that's a different level of "enterprise-class" than the "lights out management" and similar things, I'd think. | 05:51 |
| Ninjix | agreed | 05:51 |
| freeflying | ha all | 05:52 |
| freeflying | I can ping other machine from an instance in UEC, but can't access to the instance from other machine besides from cloud clontroller | 05:52 |
| Ninjix | and now we're returned to rolling our own white-box servers that have redundancy where we use it the most like hot swap bays | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | Ninjix: So maybe you really want to move towards commodity server hardware, but still hardware RAID cards and hot swap disk chassis... yup. Makes sense. | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | Maybe you can build two such boxes, one software RAID and one hardware RAID, and benchmark for your workload and then decide if the $400 is worth it for your situation? | 05:55 |
| Ninjix | so far I've had mix results in our tests | 05:56 |
| Ninjix | the fakeraid can hang with the hardware RAID on 0,1 and 10 | 05:57 |
| Ninjix | moving up to RAID 5 there's where the parity hurts | 05:59 |
| jmarsden | I guess that makes sense. Did you compare fakeraid with pure software (mdadm) RAID too? | 05:59 |
| Ninjix | same hardware with Windows drivers produces better results by some extra % points | 06:00 |
| jmarsden | But for the cost of Windows Server you can buy a hardware RAID card :) | 06:01 |
| Ninjix | I haven't tested the ICH10R against Linux RAID yet | 06:01 |
| Ninjix | Good point. Love FOSS cost savings. :) | 06:01 |
| Ninjix | freeflying: I wish I could help but I still waiting to get the chance to play with UEC | 06:03 |
| jmarsden | Ninjix: I'd think hard about doing RAID5 fakeraid in production... if things go bad and you end up needing to rescue a broken array, you're more likely to find people and tools for messing with the guts of an mdadm setup than with a (Linux) fakeraid-based array, I suspect. | 06:03 |
| jmarsden | So unless fakeraid has significant reliability or performance benefits (which I don't think it does), I'd use mdadm software RAID rather than fakeraid. But that's just me. | 06:05 |
| Ninjix | yes. That seems to be the general consensus. I know guys that won't use hardware raid for that reason. | 06:05 |
| Ninjix | No one want to get burned by proprietary drivers or even hardware | 06:06 |
| jmarsden | Yes... although real hardware raid on a controller from a decent vendor is slightly different; the vendor can often help you rescue things, and since the RAID is hardware they don't need to know Linux to do so... only their own hardware. | 06:06 |
| Ninjix | thankfully I have only come close to that with Dell PERC controllers | 06:07 |
| jmarsden | We've seen some Windows servers where older Adaptec SCSI RAID5 broke badly, and their techs can do what looks near-miracles to get things going again... I think twice in the last 4 years I have seen that. | 06:09 |
| Ninjix | yes, Adaptec hasn't ever let me down. Still have a old 2940 SCSI card around here somewhere. :) | 06:10 |
| jmarsden | That's pretty old now, I remember those :) | 06:10 |
| Ninjix | how about yourself? what kind of disk IO solution are you running your Ubuntu servers on? | 06:11 |
| jmarsden | Software RAID1; we're doing smaller lower cost servers mostly where the cost of a hardware RAID card doesn't seem to be justified. For a couple of clients that did need more serious IO we did SAS drives and an LSI MegaRAID card, I don't remember the exact model. | 06:15 |
| Ninjix | 15k SAS drives? | 06:22 |
| fallous_ | I was always a symbios fan myself. 875-based cards were the bomb | 06:27 |
| jmarsden | Yes, Seagate. I'm really more of a network/sysadmin, I only get involved with low level hardware details when I have no choice :) | 06:27 |
| Ninjix | nice chatting with you this evening | 06:33 |
| jmarsden | Likewise. Sometimes it is nice *not* to be helping out teenage newcomers with minimal Linux background :) | 06:34 |
| billybigrigger | hey im 24 | 06:47 |
| billybigrigger | thank you very much | 06:47 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 06:47 |
| jmarsden | :) Hi billybigrigger | 06:48 |
| billybigrigger | jmarsden, howdy | 06:48 |
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| tonyyarusso | ttx: Hey, I was wondering if you could comment on either of these things re: server seed proposals for Lucid: | 07:34 |
| tonyyarusso | 1) What's the rationale for dropping vlock? It's small, but has come in handy for me a few times. Is there a better replacement these days, or would it be dropped without a replacement in main? | 07:35 |
| tonyyarusso | 2) Has there been any consideration given to possibly putting an IRCd in main, either for Lucid or later? | 07:35 |
| ttx | 1) I don't know, feel free to ask the question in the discussion section of the spec | 07:36 |
| ttx | 2) I guess yes | 07:36 |
| Maleko | how do you view parition details, aside from using fdisk -l | 08:13 |
| jmarsden | Maleko: YOu could use cfdisk if you prefer :) What is wrong with using fdisk -l ? | 08:15 |
| Maleko | it does not give in-depth details such as partition filesystem, total size in gb, free space etc | 08:16 |
| jmarsden | How could it... it is just reading the partition table, which does not contain that information. | 08:17 |
| jmarsden | If you know what fs is on a given partition you can use fs-specific tools to look at that fs... | 08:18 |
| Maleko | hmm. what about ext* ? | 08:20 |
| jmarsden | tune2fs -l would work on ext2/ext3 filesystems, lots of info there, for example... | 08:22 |
| _ruben | looks kinda "ironic" to me: process `sysctl' is using deprecated sysctl (syscall) net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time; Use net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time_ms instead. | 09:27 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #491288 in samba (main) "File corruption after copying files via samba from Karmic to Karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491288 | 09:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #490843 in net-snmp (main) "Confusing debconf question on dist-upgrade" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/490843 | 10:02 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #491084 in eucalyptus "Object get requests will non determinstically fail (with the rightaws library)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491084 | 10:02 |
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| === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams | ||
| * soren grabs some lunch | 10:55 | |
| === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams | ||
| alvin | Good to see there's another Server survey. | 11:53 |
| ivoks | when is the meeting? | 11:56 |
| Aison | hello | 12:00 |
| Aison | I installed ubuntu server on two machines | 12:00 |
| Aison | on one machine, /etc/fstab root is monted at /dev/mapper/mediaserv-root | 12:01 |
| nijaba | ivoks: meeting is at 2PM UTC, 2h from now | 12:01 |
| Aison | on the other machine, root is defined by an UUID | 12:01 |
| Aison | why this difference? | 12:01 |
| ivoks | right in the middle of working hours :/ | 12:01 |
| ivoks | Aison: it's newer version of ubuntnu | 12:01 |
| Aison | but I installed both from the same ubuntu cd? | 12:03 |
| ivoks | which one? | 12:03 |
| ivoks | ubuntu ...? | 12:03 |
| ivoks | 8.04? | 12:04 |
| ivoks | 9.10? | 12:04 |
| Aison | 9.10 amd64 | 12:04 |
| ivoks | so, on one you installed LVM, and on the other you didn't right? | 12:04 |
| Aison | hmm, I just noticed that also | 12:05 |
| Aison | ;) | 12:05 |
| ivoks | hehe | 12:05 |
| Aison | is there a good howto for ubuntu 9.10 to build my own custom kernel? because I've got 12 DVB-s Cards in this machine, I need to change some constant in the kernel sources | 12:10 |
| Aison | by default, the kernel support just 8 DVB Cards at the same time | 12:10 |
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| Aison | the wiki here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is not working somehow | 12:12 |
| ivoks | there's git | 12:22 |
| ivoks | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#Build%20the%20kernel%20%28when%20source%20is%20from%20git%20repository,%20or%20from%20apt-get%20source%29 | 12:23 |
| ivoks | this should work | 12:23 |
| Aison | thx | 12:34 |
| Aison | :))) | 12:34 |
| === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams | ||
| zul | morning | 12:37 |
| === Sorrell_sleep_mo is now known as Sorrell | ||
| acalvo | how can I grow a LVM partition, if it is mounted as /? | 12:46 |
| alvin | acalvo: The same way as you grow other logical volumes. It works. | 12:47 |
| acalvo | but, shouldn't it be unmounted first? | 12:47 |
| alvin | no, you can resize online | 12:48 |
| alvin | first, use lvresize, and then resize2fs | 12:48 |
| acalvo | even with ext4? | 12:48 |
| alvin | yes, even with ext4 | 12:48 |
| acalvo | thanks alvin, I'll try it | 12:49 |
| acalvo | is it worth to have vmware tools installed on a production server? | 13:08 |
| zul | morning | 13:15 |
| nijaba | morning zul | 13:29 |
| nijaba | acalvo: if your server is running on ESX or a VMware product, yes, it makes a lot of sense | 13:30 |
| acalvo | thanks nijaba | 13:30 |
| acalvo | last question then: are the vmware packages available in any repository? | 13:30 |
| soren | open-vm-tools. | 13:32 |
| soren | I don't know if it works. Haven't used it in.... | 13:32 |
| soren | err... | 13:32 |
| soren | a very long time. | 13:32 |
| * soren desperately needs coffee | 13:32 | |
| acalvo | soren: quick question: where you from? | 13:41 |
| soren | acalvo: Denmark | 13:44 |
| acalvo | ok :) | 13:44 |
| zul | aka vikingland | 13:46 |
| soren | The very same. | 13:47 |
| * zul smacks net-snmp around some | 13:57 | |
| soren | jdstrand: http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commitdiff;h=32f021f2664290cffe34723c52435ac4a62fb365 fixes the eventtest thing. | 14:00 |
| soren | jdstrand: If you'd rather leave that to me, that's perfectly cool as well. | 14:00 |
| jdstrand | soren: ok, thanks | 14:01 |
| soren | ..but there it is. | 14:01 |
| jdstrand | soren: I ran into some other issues (hal), but am working through them. I'll apply that commit too | 14:02 |
| cyphermox | I'm trying to setup a full kickstart for a ubuntu server using the kickstart compatibility config format. What would be the way to skip the creation of the initial user? | 14:25 |
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| cipix | hi all. I'm having an issue on a ubuntu server with grub2 installation in that when server boots it gives me the error "You need to load the kernel first" and I tried grub-install and update-grub and I don't know what else to check to see what's wrong and to fix it. can you help me please? | 14:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #485760 in php5 "Need to upgrade integrated zip module" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485760 | 14:43 |
| RoyK | u hm... http://www.grist.org/article/2009-11-18-oil-enough-energy-to-melt-glaciers | 14:46 |
| mathiaz | ttx: byobu isn't brought into main only by Recommends - http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lucid/rdepends/byobu/byobu | 14:52 |
| mathiaz | ttx: it's a dependency from a bunch of packages | 14:52 |
| ttx | mathiaz: ok, good. | 14:53 |
| mathiaz | ttx: what I'm grepping for is packages that only have Reverse Recommends and that they're brought in by one of the server seed (ultimately) | 14:54 |
| mathiaz | ttx: the goal was to have a (rather) short list to review by hand | 14:54 |
| mathiaz | ttx: and make proposal from it | 14:54 |
| xfrogman5 | Are ssl features installed and enabled with a standard Ubuntu LAMP installation? | 15:00 |
| nijaba | xfrogman5: yes they are installed but not enabled | 15:11 |
| xfrogman5 | Can you point me to a detailed howto for enabling ssl within apache2 | 15:12 |
| nijaba | xfrogman5: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html | 15:12 |
| xfrogman5 | thx | 15:13 |
| nijaba | xfrogman5: see ubuntu.com/server/doc for a summary of resources available about ubuntu server edition | 15:13 |
| heath|work | can some pastie there source.list for 7.10, I'm getting nothing but 404's | 15:22 |
| heath|work | or did support end and I not know it | 15:23 |
| mjeanson | heath: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com | 15:25 |
| soren | heath|work: Support ended more than 6 months ago. You should upgrade ASAP. | 15:29 |
| heath|work | we are moving servers, I just needed to install git for a test thanks soren | 15:29 |
| * MenZa makes mental note to upgrade his 8.10 box the moment 10.04 is out | 15:31 | |
| soren | MenZa: 8.10->10.04 is not a supported upgrade path, fwiw. | 15:31 |
| MenZa | aye, I know | 15:31 |
| soren | It may Just Work, but we put no effort into testing anything at all. | 15:31 |
| MenZa | I'm scared to do it | 15:32 |
| MenZa | I might just do a full backup and install 10.04 | 15:32 |
| soren | Bah. It's only bits and bytes. | 15:32 |
| soren | :) | 15:32 |
| MenZa | I regret not installing Hardy back when I set my box up | 15:32 |
| * soren is still running hardy on most of his production systems. | 15:32 | |
| MenZa | I ought to on my server | 15:32 |
| MenZa | I never considered using it for anything else than irssi, but I'm now running multiple websites and stuff on it | 15:32 |
| soren | I suppose my primary work laptop is sort of a production system (at least in the sense that I'd be severely impaired if it broke), but it's running Lucid. | 15:34 |
| MenZa | soren: So, you mean Jaunty with a new toolchain? and /etc/apt/sources.list? | 15:36 |
| MenZa | er | 15:36 |
| MenZa | s/Jaunty/Karmic | 15:36 |
| MenZa | I can't keep up with releases anymore | 15:36 |
| * MenZa has lived to see Breezy, Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic and Lucid | 15:36 | |
| MenZa | Christ, that is a lot of releases. | 15:36 |
| * MenZa feels old. | 15:36 | |
| soren | MenZa: No, Lucid is waaay past just being an updated toolchain. | 15:40 |
| MenZa | soren: I suppose - Alpha 1 is out soon | 15:40 |
| smoser | mathiaz, or anyone, have you done command line compltion before (ie, added bash completion hooks for a package) ? | 15:41 |
| * soren goes to pick up his daughter at day care | 15:48 | |
| TeTeT_ | how to exchange the self signed certificate for UEC with a CA signed? | 15:48 |
| Rascal999 | have setup up rsa/dsa so i don't need password for ssh but i get this error pop up in auth.log Error attempting to add filename encryption key to user session keyring; rc = [1] | 15:50 |
| MTecknology | If my server is running on xen and I don't want xen to control the kernel; what kernel can I use that already has xen support built in? | 15:56 |
| MTecknology | I tried -generic and -virt but neither seem to have xen support | 15:56 |
| smoser | MTecknology, it depends on what version of xen you have. ... newer xen can boot either of the above kernels (i think) in pv_ops | 16:04 |
| smoser | additionally there is the xen hvm, which i htink you mean by your statement of "don't want xen to control the kernel" | 16:05 |
| MTecknology | smoser: I'm running on a Linode if that helps | 16:11 |
| smoser | doesnt help me, sorry. | 16:12 |
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| === david is now known as Guest67831 | ||
| MTecknology | smoser: I'm getting this error ERROR Invalid kernel: elf_xen_note_check: ERROR: Will only load images built for the generic loader | 16:18 |
| MTecknology | or Linux images | 16:18 |
| MTecknology | xc_dom_parse_image returned -1 | 16:18 |
| smoser | MTecknology, i'm sorry, i can't be much more help. sorry to get your hopes up. maybe someone else here can help. | 16:19 |
| MTecknology | ok, thanks | 16:21 |
| * ttx hates C | 16:33 | |
| Rascal999 | ttx, why do you hate C? | 16:37 |
| ttx | Rascal999: struggling with some memory management, I forgot how painful it can be. | 16:38 |
| Rascal999 | ttx, oh, not been there yet | 16:38 |
| Rascal999 | based on what I've learnt and done in C so far, I'm liking it | 16:39 |
| Rascal999 | but I haven't really touched on memory management, multi-threading or the rest | 16:39 |
| kirkland | ttx: where is your eucalyptus SRU branch? | 16:41 |
| kirkland | ttx: last i recall, it was a private branch owned by you | 16:41 |
| kirkland | ttx: could you push it somewhere ubuntu-core-dev owned? | 16:41 |
| ttx | kirkland: done already | 16:42 |
| kirkland | ttx: sweet, link me :-) | 16:42 |
| ttx | kirkland: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/eucalyptus/ubuntu-karmic/changes | 16:42 |
| ttx | committed as rev725..726 | 16:42 |
| kirkland | ttx: thanks; i'll hack the new CLEAN=1 operations today | 16:42 |
| kirkland | ttx: fixing the non-determinism seems, um, a bit harder | 16:43 |
| ttx | kirkland: I didn't observe any non-determinism in my testing | 16:43 |
| ttx | kirkland: doesn't mean there isn't any, by definition | 16:44 |
| kirkland | ttx: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/490382/comments/3 | 16:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 490382 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc init script doesn't always clear /var/lib/eucalyptus/CC" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:44 |
| ttx | i.e. stop eucalyptus-cc CLEAN=1 always PASSed | 16:44 |
| kirkland | ttx: you wrote "Looks quite non-deterministic from here." | 16:44 |
| ttx | arrh | 16:44 |
| kirkland | ttx: typo? | 16:45 |
| ttx | yep | 16:45 |
| ttx | commenting | 16:45 |
| kirkland | ttx: ah, would you add another comment to that effect? | 16:45 |
| ttx | i progress | 16:45 |
| kirkland | ttx: i was happy you had seen something similar to me :-) | 16:45 |
| ttx | kirkland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/490382/comments/5 | 16:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 490382 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc init script doesn't always clear /var/lib/eucalyptus/CC" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:46 |
| ttx | sorry about that | 16:46 |
| kirkland | ttx: no problem | 16:46 |
| kirkland | ttx: so i'll add the new CLEAN=1 support, test that a bit, and push to proposed? | 16:46 |
| ttx | yes, sounds good | 16:46 |
| ttx | If you still observe some non-determinism, let me know which commands you tested | 16:47 |
| ttx | I couldn't make it fail with "stop eucalyptus-cc CLEAN=1" | 16:49 |
| ttx | but that's rather counter-intuitive | 16:49 |
| * soren goes to dinner... bbl | 16:53 | |
| kirkland | ttx: question about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/490382/comments/3 | 16:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 490382 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cc init script doesn't always clear /var/lib/eucalyptus/CC" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:57 |
| kirkland | ttx: your comment about the env not being passed from eucalyptus to eucalyptus-cc upstart script ... | 16:57 |
| kirkland | ttx: is that supposition, or confirmed operation? | 16:57 |
| kirkland | ttx: ie, do i need to chase keybuk down and ask him about that ? | 16:58 |
| ttx | kirkland: supposition. | 16:58 |
| kirkland | ttx: okay, i'll confirm with scott | 16:59 |
| ttx | kirkland: I see no reason why it would be propagated to upstart tasks that get triggered by another event | 16:59 |
| ttx | kirkland: but sometimes I'm surprised by upstart :) | 17:00 |
| xfrogman5 | Looking for detailed howto for converting an IIS6 ssl cert to be used on a Ubuntu Apache2 Openssl system. | 17:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #491481 in tomcat6 (main) "package tomcat6 6.0.20-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script post-installation instalado devolvi? el c?digo de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491481 | 17:51 |
| === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams | ||
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| Aison | is there some ldap howto (samba, pam, radius, etc...) for 9.10? | 18:24 |
| Aison | I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer | 18:24 |
| Aison | but eg. on 9.10 /etc/ldap/ldaps.conf is a directory | 18:24 |
| Aison | err slapd.conf | 18:25 |
| ahasenack | Aison: look for the server guide | 18:42 |
| Aison | this? https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/index.html | 18:43 |
| Aison | :D | 18:43 |
| ahasenack | I was looking for it, let me see | 18:44 |
| ahasenack | ah, help.ubuntu.com | 18:45 |
| ahasenack | Aison: yes, that's the one | 18:45 |
| ahasenack | Aison: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html | 18:45 |
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| Aison | with sudo dpkg-reconfigure slapd I can't set the default suffix :( I also can't set the manager password | 18:51 |
| Aison | brb, reboot, back soon ;) | 18:55 |
| tuxcrafter | hi all | 19:07 |
| tuxcrafter | yesterday i updated my server to ubuntu 9.10 | 19:07 |
| tuxcrafter | and i had a mediawiki install | 19:07 |
| tuxcrafter | and now it is gone | 19:07 |
| tuxcrafter | it is asking me to setup the wiki first | 19:08 |
| tuxcrafter | i am so afraid i am lossing all the data | 19:08 |
| Aison | re | 19:08 |
| Aison | back to my question ;) with sudo dpkg-reconfigure slapd I can't set the directory or ldap manager password :( | 19:12 |
| tuxcrafter | i do got daily mysql dumps of the media wiki | 19:12 |
| ahasenack | Aison: in karmic, there is no such password anymore in the default tree | 19:12 |
| ahasenack | Aison: using -H ldapi:// -Y EXTERNAL in your ldap* command-line tools is enough to become the rootdn | 19:13 |
| adurity | I need to update the ESM firmware on a Dell PowerEdge server. Does anyone have experience doing this under Ubuntu? | 19:13 |
| ahasenack | Aison: there is a regexp in the config mapping that form of local authentication to the directory administrator user | 19:13 |
| Aison | k | 19:13 |
| ahasenack | Aison: try "ldapwhoami -H ldapi:/// -Y EXTERNAL" | 19:13 |
| ahasenack | Aison: it will tell you that you are cn=localroot,cn=config IIRC, which is the rootdn | 19:14 |
| Aison | ok, yes | 19:14 |
| Aison | eg. there's a sample ldapsearch call to view the tree | 19:14 |
| Aison | ldapsearch -xLLL -b cn=config -D cn=admin,cn=config -W olcDatabase={1}hdb | 19:14 |
| Aison | there a password is requested.... | 19:15 |
| ahasenack | because you added -W | 19:22 |
| ahasenack | is that in the doc? | 19:23 |
| Aison | yes | 19:23 |
| ahasenack | ugh, then it's wrong | 19:23 |
| Aison | it's copy&past from https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html | 19:23 |
| ahasenack | replace all authentication options with "-H ldapi:/// -Y EXTERNAL" | 19:23 |
| ahasenack | and the commands should work locally, when run on the same server | 19:23 |
| ahasenack | so, drop -x -D -W -w | 19:23 |
| Aison | the doc also tells me that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure slapd" let me configure the default suffix | 19:23 |
| Aison | but I cant | 19:24 |
| ahasenack | note it's a bare bones tree, so you will eventually want to add something to it, like users and so, so at some point you will be using -D, -W, etc | 19:24 |
| ahasenack | yeah, looks like it's outdated then | 19:24 |
| Aison | well, it also tells me, that the suffix is taken from the FQDN | 19:24 |
| Aison | but I don't remember that i've ever set the FQDN at installation | 19:25 |
| ahasenack | there is no suffix yet | 19:25 |
| ahasenack | it's from the older distros documentation | 19:26 |
| ahasenack | in 9.10 it's really bare bones, just a bare cn=config database | 19:26 |
| ahasenack | if you want a script to populate it, you can check out launchpad.net/openldap-dit | 19:26 |
| ahasenack | although it highlighted a bug in openldap, let me commit a workaround | 19:26 |
| ahasenack | hmm | 19:28 |
| Aison | on the old distribution I used mysql for users and such, but now I changed to ubuntu (also changed my RAID device, raised raid capacity to 8TB, etc....) | 19:30 |
| Aison | and I would like to use ldap ;) so far, everything works nice | 19:31 |
| Aison | bind setup was easy, etc.. | 19:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #491271 in samba (main) "testparm changes syntax" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491271 | 19:37 |
| mathiaz | Aison: the ldap section of the ubuntu server guide in 9.10 hasn't been updated to match the new slapd configuration | 19:55 |
| mathiaz | Aison: most of the ldif files are good, but the command won't work, and you'd have to create a default database/tree as well. | 19:55 |
| ahasenack | mathiaz: how does its updating work? Is it a wiki, does a diff need to be pasted in some LP ticket, or just a discussion in the mailing list? | 19:56 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: the server guide is actually a bzr branch and a package | 19:57 |
| ahasenack | hmm | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: so the update uses the standard SRU process | 19:57 |
| ahasenack | mathiaz: what's the branch? | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Documentor%20resources | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | sommer: lp:ubuntu-docs | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | sommer: ? | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: ^^ | 19:57 |
| Aison | mathiaz, too bad :) i'm new to ldap, so it's not that easy for me ;) | 19:58 |
| ivoks | it's quite easy once you understand it | 19:58 |
| ivoks | ....once... | 19:58 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: I meant to write a blog post about using slapd in Karmic | 19:58 |
| ahasenack | cof cof | 19:58 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: a couple of days ago you mentioned that we switch to MariaDB - why? | 19:58 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: they listen | 19:59 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: we had a bug in mysql for ages | 19:59 |
| ivoks | reported a year ago | 19:59 |
| ivoks | until uds and meeting with mneptok, nothing moved | 19:59 |
| RoAk | ivoks, should corosync be merged from debian/testing or should we just work on the packages provided by madkiss? | 19:59 |
| ivoks | then in two days all was resolved :) | 19:59 |
| ivoks | RoAk: i haven't looked at merges yet; i plan to do that this night | 20:00 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: they have newer stuff | 20:00 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: well - there are plenty of bugs - I'd rather not base such a decision because 1 bug was fixed promptly | 20:00 |
| ahasenack | mariadb is a mysql fork or what? | 20:00 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: yes | 20:01 |
| RoAk | ivoks, ok I was planing on grab the packages of Madkiss and recompile them for ubuntu. He has also made available packages for karmic in his repo | 20:01 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: of course, but as i said, they have newer featuers | 20:01 |
| ivoks | features | 20:01 |
| ivoks | once 5.1 is released, i'll do some testing and if everything goes as advertised, i'll replace mysql with mariadb on my servers | 20:02 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: right - the maria db engine, a few other patches? | 20:02 |
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| mathiaz | ivoks: I think that's perfectly reasonalbe | 20:02 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: it's mysql 5.6 + patches | 20:02 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: 5.6? IIRC they're merging from 5.1 | 20:02 |
| ivoks | so mariadb 5.1 is at the same level as mysql 5.6 | 20:02 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: my understanding was that MariaDB 5.1 is 5.1 + patches | 20:03 |
| ivoks | true | 20:03 |
| ivoks | but those patches come from 5.6 | 20:03 |
| ivoks | not all, of course | 20:04 |
| ivoks | anyway, once it is released, i'll test it | 20:04 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: I think we should make it as easy as possible for people to experiment with mariadb | 20:04 |
| ivoks | and, if you are interested, i could provide some analysis | 20:04 |
| ahasenack | mathiaz: I branched that url, but I don't see a file related to openldap in it | 20:04 |
| mathiaz | sommer: ^^ - could you ahasenack with the server guide? I haven't looked at it lately | 20:05 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: I'm always interested in such analysis | 20:05 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: the main issue for now is that haven't released anything | 20:05 |
| ahasenack | hmm, found it | 20:05 |
| ahasenack | network-auth.xml | 20:05 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: correct | 20:05 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: which is a bit annoying for the LTS | 20:05 |
| ivoks | of course | 20:06 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: there was a discussion about MariaDB during the last UDS - were in there? | 20:06 |
| ivoks | yes it was | 20:06 |
| ivoks | i was | 20:06 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: ok - I think that what mark suggested in the end is the best option for LTS | 20:06 |
| ivoks | imho, having mariadb at least in universe would be very smart thing to do | 20:07 |
| * mathiaz agrees | 20:07 | |
| ahasenack | the branch is already more up-to-date than the published page | 20:07 |
| ivoks | who knows what could happen to mysql and having a fail over would be awesome | 20:07 |
| ivoks | in universe, but very well maintained | 20:07 |
| mathiaz | ahasenack: bug 463684 | 20:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 463684 in ubuntu-docs "openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/463684 | 20:08 |
| enquora | I have an Asus EEE box with 8.04lts on it that I want to upgrade to 9.04 server. do-release-upgrade complains that no upgrade is available and booting from external CD fails when installer can't locate driver for external drive. any suggestions? | 20:14 |
| enquora | Sorry, want to upgrade to 9.10 server | 20:14 |
| ivoks | first of all | 20:15 |
| ivoks | you can't do 8.04 -> 9.04 | 20:15 |
| ivoks | you have to do 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 | 20:15 |
| enquora | I know that | 20:15 |
| ivoks | or wait for 8.04 -> 10.04 | 20:15 |
| ivoks | now, by default, only upgrades from LTS to LTS are enabled in LTS releases | 20:16 |
| enquora | I assumed that when I saw 'no upgrade available' | 20:16 |
| enquora | Is there a way to over-ride that? | 20:16 |
| ivoks | if you want to update to non-LTS, you have to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 20:16 |
| ivoks | Prompt=normal | 20:16 |
| enquora | ivoks: I see the setting. Thks. | 20:18 |
| ivoks | np | 20:19 |
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| Aison | uhm, what is recommended as ldap web frontend | 20:24 |
| ivoks | as in management? | 20:25 |
| Aison | something like phpldapadmin | 20:26 |
| Aison | I just tried this, but no chance ;) | 20:26 |
| ivoks | my preference is apache directory studio | 20:26 |
| ivoks | it's not web based | 20:27 |
| Aison | well, if it's not webbased, that's ok als | 20:27 |
| Aison | also | 20:27 |
| ivoks | then go for it | 20:27 |
| ivoks | it rocks. | 20:27 |
| ivoks | http://directory.apache.org/studio/ | 20:28 |
| mneptok | ivoks / mathiaz: FYI, i'll be talking to Norbert Tretkowski (Debian MySQL packager) about MariaDB packages for Debian. so hopefully Lucid can inherit universe packages directly from Debian. | 20:28 |
| * mneptok and nobse have a call scheduled for this weekend | 20:29 | |
| Aison | thx | 20:29 |
| Aison | but first I need somehow to setup my ldap | 20:29 |
| Aison | that crap is not working ;) | 20:29 |
| mathiaz | mneptok: great - that's the best option IMO | 20:29 |
| ivoks | learn it | 20:29 |
| Aison | the docs of 9.10 aren't really up to date | 20:29 |
| Aison | :( | 20:29 |
| mathiaz | Aison: true - any help in updating them is welcome | 20:30 |
| ahasenack | Aison: would you like to try the openldap-dit script? | 20:30 |
| Aison | ahasenack, well, if that helps, why not ;) | 20:30 |
| mneptok | mathiaz: also, i pointed bytee (Colin Charles) in your direction as regards AppArmor profiling for MariaDB. if he has questions, he might poke you. | 20:30 |
| ivoks | 'what is dit?' | 20:30 |
| ivoks | :D | 20:30 |
| Aison | ahasenack, since my ldap is empty anyway, I can't damage much | 20:30 |
| ahasenack | Aison: it's supposed to be run right after installing the karmic slapd package | 20:30 |
| Aison | ok, so I reset my small changes, sec... | 20:31 |
| ivoks | hm, i could give that a try :) | 20:31 |
| ivoks | and probably provide patches for email services :D | 20:31 |
| ahasenack | Aison: people.canonical.com/~andreas/openldap-dit-0.20.tar.gz | 20:31 |
| Aison | ok, and now? | 20:32 |
| ahasenack | Aison: after opening the tarball, run "sudo make install" and then as root "/usr/share/slapd/openldap-dit-setup.sh" and answer the two questions | 20:32 |
| ahasenack | (I never tried "sudo /usr/share/slapd/openldap-dit-setup.sh" now that I think about it, but should work) | 20:32 |
| ivoks | mneptok: there's a new patch for croatian collation in mysql 6.0 | 20:32 |
| ivoks | mneptok: it should be merged | 20:33 |
| ivoks | mneptok: i'll file a bug or reopen the old one | 20:34 |
| Aison | ahasenack, ok, finished | 20:35 |
| Aison | no error so far ;) | 20:35 |
| mneptok | ivoks: perfect | 20:35 |
| ahasenack | Aison: I need to leave for about 30min, but will be back | 20:35 |
| Aison | ok, cu | 20:35 |
| ahasenack | Aison: now just use that admin dn as the root one | 20:35 |
| mneptok | ivoks: bump the old bug. if there's no reaction within 24h, i'll start screaming. | 20:35 |
| Aison | ok | 20:36 |
| ahasenack | Aison: it installed a basic tree with people and group locations | 20:36 |
| ahasenack | bbl | 20:36 |
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| ivoks | mneptok: :) | 20:36 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ping | 20:37 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: re: uec-testing | 20:37 |
| mneptok | ivoks: some people in the US have learned that solving problems in the Balkans before they grow too large is a good idea. ;) | 20:37 |
| * mneptok giggles | 20:37 | |
| ivoks | hahaha | 20:37 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: " * Eucalyptus to make their stress test suite publicly available: TODO" | 20:37 |
| MTecknology | You guys have any experience with uptrack? | 20:37 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: can we mark that DONE, now that we have the tests from nurmi? or is that not "public" enough? | 20:38 |
| * mathiaz o^14 kirkland | 20:38 | |
| MTecknology | !info python-yaml | 20:38 |
| ubottu | python-yaml (source: pyyaml): YAML parser and emitter for Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.09-1 (karmic), package size 162 kB, installed size 728 kB | 20:38 |
| * kirkland tries to figure that one out ... | 20:38 | |
| mathiaz | kirkland: hm - for the scope of uec-testing I think so | 20:38 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: making them public means putting a license on it | 20:38 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so that they could be included in the packages | 20:38 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: | 20:39 |
| kirkland | * Obtain the Eucalyptus test suite: DONE | 20:39 |
| kirkland | * Eucalyptus to make their stress test suite publicly available: TODO | 20:39 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: seems like a good plan | 20:39 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, can we take a quick look at https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-uec-testing together? | 20:40 |
| ivoks | mneptok: such a small area and so much problems :) | 20:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: sure | 20:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i think you went over the work-items and split a few up | 20:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yes | 20:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: mdz asked me to go over these and carve up any that are more than a day or two worth of effort | 20:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - jos pinged me earlier as well | 20:41 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: 10:47 <jib> i think the main thing missing is the plan for the eucalyptus test integration. could you please amend that? | 20:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i'm looking at the tests from nurmi right now | 20:41 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - these are stress testing | 20:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right ... so these would run on one machine (through testbox), and point at an existing cloud setup | 20:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: getting the cloud setup itself is outside of the scope of checkbox, AFAICT | 20:42 |
| MTecknology | !search jps | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Found: | 20:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yes | 20:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and I wouldn't integrate with checkbox yet | 20:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: that was my main update to the WI | 20:42 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: cool | 20:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: checkbox doesn't have the concept of running tests spanning multiple systems | 20:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right | 20:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay so looking at the work items for those that might take >2 days ... | 20:43 |
| kirkland | * Automate the installation of UEC for the different topologies on the assigned hardware: TODO | 20:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ^ could be complex | 20:43 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: well - I was thinking about preseeding | 20:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: but that really just depends on how many and how complex the topologies might be | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and may be throw some puppet in there | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - I have to loook into that | 20:44 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: sure ... if we're talking about 3-4 reasonable topologies, i think that's 2 days worth of work | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: but maximum 6 physical machines? | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: oh right | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I see what you mean | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: let me look up the different topologies | 20:45 |
| kirkland | * Automate the installation of UEC for the 3-4 different topologies on the assigned hardware: TODO | 20:45 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i scoped it like that ^ | 20:45 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: well - I'd split in one WI per topologie | 20:45 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right! | 20:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: do you want to agree on a few topologies right now? | 20:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i think that's one of the TODO items :-) | 20:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i'm not sure who needs to sign off on that .... though | 20:46 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yes - ttx already defined them actually | 20:46 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: mdz told me so | 20:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: oh? where? | 20:46 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'm looking for the spec right now | 20:46 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: the intstaller improvmeent | 20:47 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: url? | 20:47 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: * Define a comprehensive, finite list of topologies to be tested: TODO | 20:47 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: you can mark that DONE, then ;-) | 20:47 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: :) - that's the one I'm searching for | 20:47 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/UECInstallerEnhancement | 20:48 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-uec-installer-enhancement | 20:48 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: cool, i'm subscribed now, wasn't before | 20:48 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: since this is the work to be done in the installer - it makes sense to prepare a test plan for these topolobies | 20:49 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ack | 20:49 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: there is also https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-euca-remote-autoregister | 20:50 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: that looks like 5 different topologies | 20:51 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: are those the 5? | 20:51 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: where do you see 5 topologies? | 20:51 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-euca-remote-autoregister/ | 20:51 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: grep "(" | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: same as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EucalyptusRemoteAutoRegistration - Test/Demo plan section? | 20:52 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: hmm, 3 of them are the same, never mind | 20:52 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, well, there's 5 there too | 20:53 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yes | 20:53 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so that 5 WI | 20:54 |
| Aison | ivoks, this apache directory editor is really nice :D | 20:54 |
| Aison | thx | 20:54 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: the separate networks ... is that something you can automate? | 20:55 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: you mean - (CC2+SC2 will be registered manually)? | 20:56 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I think what needs to be tested here is manual entry of IP - ie not using avahi | 20:56 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/333382/ | 20:56 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: how does that look? | 20:56 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i split that 1 item up like that | 20:56 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: looks good to me | 20:57 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: refresh https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-uec-testing | 20:57 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: * Enable Eucalyptus upstream test suite: TODO | 20:58 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: that looks like the hardest / most ambiguous remaining item | 20:58 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: otherwise, I think it looks okay now | 20:58 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: hm - we're not testing "three adjacent networks" and "two remote networks (CC2+SC2 will be registered manually) "? | 20:59 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: last two test cases from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EucalyptusRemoteAutoRegistration? | 20:59 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: upstream test suite - right - I don't know how hard it is | 20:59 |
| kane_ | kirkland, mathiaz if that's any more than 1-2 days of work, we'll want to split that out. and i'm trusting at least one of you's seen the code & test suite in question? | 20:59 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: that's what i was asking you before ... i don't think that's going to be easy to automate the testing of | 20:59 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I just remember dan mentioning they had a test suite | 20:59 |
| kirkland | kane_: both of us have the tarball, i'm looking at it now | 21:00 |
| kirkland | kane_: neither of us have run it though | 21:00 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I've actually run it | 21:00 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: it requires some small changes | 21:00 |
| * kirkland bites his tongue | 21:00 | |
| mathiaz | kirkland: but overall it works | 21:00 |
| ivoks | Aison: great | 21:01 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: kane_: okay, in that case, I think everything remaining in that spec is less than 1-2 days work | 21:01 |
| Aison | ivoks, what's the difference between New Entry and New Context Entry? | 21:01 |
| mathiaz | kane_: what did you mean exactly with 10:47 <jib> i think the main thing missing is the plan for the eucalyptus test integration. could you please amend that? | 21:01 |
| ivoks | Aison: you are using it on 9.10? 32 or 64 bit? | 21:02 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: kane_: Drafting -> Review now | 21:02 |
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| * ahasenack is back | 21:02 | |
| mathiaz | kane_: one of the WI in the blueprint is to actually write up the plan for integration testing | 21:02 |
| Aison | well, the ldap server runs on 64bit 9.10 | 21:02 |
| mathiaz | kane_: and then another WI is to automate that plan | 21:03 |
| kane_ | mathiaz: it was specifically " * Enable Eucalyptus upstream test suite: TODO" | 21:03 |
| mathiaz | kane_: ah ok. | 21:03 |
| ivoks | Aison: i'm asking about apache dir.? | 21:03 |
| mathiaz | kane_: I'd defer that to kirkland - it's a packaging WI | 21:03 |
| kane_ | which could be anything from 'add line to shell script' to 'massive refactoring required to work' | 21:03 |
| mathiaz | kane_: right - may be we should first investigate the feasility of it | 21:04 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: kane_: I don't think it's going to be possible to enable the tests that I've seen in the package build, as they have to be run against a real live cloud on your network | 21:04 |
| kane_ | mathiaz: that'd be great, or at least document the uncertainty there | 21:04 |
| Aison | ivoks, gentoo ;) 64bit | 21:04 |
| mathiaz | kane_: hm - well - if it's possible to do it | 21:04 |
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| kirkland | mathiaz: kane_: that's different than, say, the perl binary testing 64-bit floating arithmetic against itself | 21:04 |
| kane_ | understood | 21:05 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - I have no clue about what dan was refering to as their test suite | 21:05 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I thought it was a kind of API unit testing suite | 21:05 |
| kane_ | so, let's figure out what we're dealing with and what it would take for us to " * Enable Eucalyptus upstream test suite: TODO" | 21:05 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: kane_: in my opinion, that item is either not a packaging one, or should be dropped altogether | 21:05 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I don't think he was refering to the stress testing scripts I send you | 21:05 |
| kirkland | hmm, okay | 21:05 |
| kirkland | then we need to ask them that tomorrow, kane_ | 21:06 |
| kane_ | well, we have a very strong wish to enable upstream tests in our processes, so let's figure out what's needed | 21:06 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I thought there was a test suite similar to the mysql/openldap test suite | 21:06 |
| kane_ | kirkland: ok, then let's add that to list if it isn't already on mdz's mail | 21:06 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: may be we should first talk to upstream about what kind of test suite they have (1 WI) | 21:06 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and then enable the one that makes sense in the build (1 WI) | 21:06 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: agreed; i'm working with nurmi right now | 21:07 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i'll ask him about it shortly | 21:07 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right now, we're reviewing eucalyptus/debian/patches/* | 21:07 |
| kane_ | mathiaz, kirkland: if you guys can demistify that bullet point for me, i'm happy to have it in review | 21:07 |
| kirkland | kane_: k | 21:07 |
| kane_ | if that takes a call with Euca, then so be it. earlier is better though. | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yeah - it may well turned out that I misunderstood what dan was saying | 21:08 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: kane_: this WI is based on one sentence that dan said when we were in Austin talking about the stress test scripts | 21:08 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: "we also have a test suite we run against the internal API/components..." something like that - that's what I remember | 21:09 |
| MTecknology | I want to run Apache on my website but I want it to only run as the httpd user (www-data). It seems that it's default is to run as root... | 21:11 |
| kane_ | mathiaz, kirkland: updated the spec to reflect the above point, just for record keeping purposes | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | Am I right or wrong on that? If I'm right; how do I change that without breaking anything? | 21:12 |
| ScottK | kane_: It might be nice if you sent a mail to the ubuntu-server mailing list introducing yourself. | 21:12 |
| kane_ | MTecknology: the parent process runs as root, and then drops privs afaik | 21:12 |
| kane_ | ScottK: good point, thanks | 21:12 |
| kirkland | kane_: ack, cheers | 21:12 |
| MTecknology | kane_: /var/www and /var/www/* are owned by root:root | 21:13 |
| MTecknology | kane_: I guess a fun way to test that would be to make a simple php script that writes to a file that's 700 root:root and 700 www-data:www-data | 21:16 |
| smoser | jjohansen, so the lucid ec2 kernel is in archive... | 21:17 |
| ivoks | urgh... hate windows | 21:17 |
| smoser | but linux-image-ec2 seems to still depend on linux-image-2.6.31-302-ec2, | 21:17 |
| smoser | so i wont pick up the kernels in nightly builds. | 21:17 |
| smoser | hello mr erichammond | 21:17 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anything else on the /server-lucid-uec-testing spec? | 21:19 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i don't think so | 21:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i marked it for review | 21:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i need to get back with you when i understand the different test suites dan and eucalyptus have | 21:20 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok | 21:21 |
| kirkland | soren: around? | 21:22 |
| soren | smoser: I've figured out why /dev might be nuked by vmbuilder cleaning up. | 21:22 |
| kirkland | soren: question about this commit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/eucalyptus/ubuntu/revision/543#debian/patches/04-axis2c-1.6.0-rampart-1.3.0.patch | 21:22 |
| soren | kirkland: Oui, oui. | 21:22 |
| kane_ | MTecknology: ps aux|grep apache will show you the children run with www-data privs. apache default installation comes with nothing more than an index.html that says 'it works' | 21:22 |
| kirkland | soren: i'm curious why a new aclocal.m4 file was added to that patch | 21:23 |
| MTecknology | kane_: I just tested with php too :P | 21:23 |
| MTecknology | kane_: thanks | 21:23 |
| kane_ | np | 21:23 |
| soren | kirkland: I don't see the string "aclocal" anywhere on that page? | 21:23 |
| soren | kirkland: Ah, sorry. My bad. | 21:24 |
| kirkland | soren: see debian/patches/05-axis-alternative-repository.patch | 21:24 |
| smoser | soren, thats good. | 21:24 |
| soren | kirkland: For PKG_CHECK_MODULES, I think. | 21:24 |
| smoser | if your box is hosed, you can get it back with udevadm trigger | 21:24 |
| soren | kirkland: ..but why it's not in /04-axis2c-1.6.0-rampart-1.3.0.patch instead... I don't know. | 21:25 |
| kirkland | soren: hrm, yeah, i think it might make more sense there | 21:25 |
| soren | smoser: It's not. I was just looking at the code and realised where it might go wrong. | 21:25 |
| * soren is about to call it a day | 21:26 | |
| * soren does so | 21:30 | |
| MTecknology | Would there be any issue in changing www-data shell to bash; or is there a chance that could hurt performance? | 21:30 |
| MTecknology | I only ask because I intend to only modify web data as that user from now on | 21:30 |
| MTecknology | I have a feeling that'll fix a lot of issues I've been having with Apache; but if it's at the cost of performance - I can get used to dash or w/e it uses -- or perhaps I should ask #httpd | 21:32 |
| jjohansen | smoser: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ec2 | 21:34 |
| jjohansen | smoser: but there is still some meta packaging work to be done so that updates can happen | 21:34 |
| smoser | jjohansen, hm... | 21:36 |
| jjohansen | yeah its not ideal, but I thought it best to let you guys know as soon as it hit the archive instead of waiting until the meta packaging was updated | 21:37 |
| smoser | ah. ok. so it will happen. | 21:38 |
| smoser | and the karmic dailies will just pick it up and publish it when it appears there. | 21:38 |
| smoser | jjohansen, we're ramdisk free riht now with the -31 | 21:39 |
| jjohansen | really? nice | 21:39 |
| jjohansen | Then we should be able to be with -32 too | 21:39 |
| smoser | yeah, so hope that the -32 still boot :) | 21:39 |
| smoser | i tested boot to mount root on kvm, uec and ec2 with the 20091201 images. | 21:40 |
| jjohansen | hehe it better, I did smoke testing of both i386 x86_64 before handing it to andy | 21:40 |
| jjohansen | and then I did it again with his ppa | 21:40 |
| smoser | you're the ubuntu-server kernel person, right? | 21:40 |
| jjohansen | yep | 21:40 |
| smoser | so this would fall on your lap eventually... | 21:40 |
| smoser | if we're thinking we want to be ramdisk free as much as possible for virtual systems. | 21:41 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, I suppose | 21:41 |
| smoser | i dont know what extra hard ware support would need to be turned to 'y' in the kernel to support microsoft and/or vmware vms without ramdisk | 21:41 |
| smoser | virtualbox obviously another one. i've not tested that. | 21:42 |
| jjohansen | ugh, me neither | 21:42 |
| smoser | i do think its reasonable (given the fairly small amount of hardware) that -virtual would support just about everything | 21:42 |
| jjohansen | yeah it should | 21:42 |
| jjohansen | well within reason | 21:43 |
| jjohansen | there is some strange stuff out there | 21:43 |
| sbeattie | smoser|jjohansen: if you've got kernels that need testing in virtualbox or vmware esx, I can help out. | 21:46 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: thanks, basically we need to step through and test booting sans initramfs | 21:48 |
| jjohansen | hitting as many platforms as possible | 21:48 |
| smoser | sbeattie, well... yeah. http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/lucid/current/unpacked/ | 21:48 |
| smoser | you can just grab the lucid-uec-{i386|amd64}-vmlinuz-virtual kernel there and try it. | 21:49 |
| smoser | you should be able to moutn root filesystems on an existing image. | 21:49 |
| smoser | the images there are'nt terribly friendly today to environments other than UEC or ec2, but we're working on that. | 21:50 |
| Aison | re | 22:09 |
| Aison | why do I have to add organizationalUnit for posixGroup entry? | 22:09 |
| Aison | else it's not accepted | 22:09 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, i confirmed with nurmi that these tests are not all of the tests they are planning to give us | 22:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: he said we'd talk more about the test suites in tomorrow's meeting with Eucalyptus | 22:25 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok | 22:25 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so far we only have the stress tests right? | 22:25 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right | 22:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: they have a functional suite too | 22:26 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: that's probably what dan was refering to | 22:26 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and I though about enabling it in the build (if possible) | 22:26 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: if possible -> sure | 22:28 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen|smoser: one issue with virtualbox is that it can (and in newer versions defaults to) use a virtual e1000 nic. | 22:28 |
| jjohansen | hrmm vmware has that as an option too | 22:29 |
| jjohansen | though it defaults to its lance or vmxnet | 22:30 |
| MTecknology | What's the 'correct' way to set my hostname? I tried to do 123.123.123.123 server.domain.com server in /etc/hosts but that didn't seem to change anything | 22:33 |
| baccenfutter | MTecknology: also edit /etc/hostname | 22:33 |
| MTecknology | oh. thanks | 22:33 |
| jmarsden|work | MTecknology: hostname -F | 22:34 |
| baccenfutter | or that | 22:34 |
| baccenfutter | which does the same | 22:34 |
| MTecknology | thanks | 22:34 |
| MTecknology | actually /etc/hostname doesn't exist.. | 22:35 |
| sbeattie | jjohansen: vbox also supports pcnet interfaces | 22:35 |
| MTecknology | there we go - thanks :D | 22:37 |
| jjohansen | sbeattie: thanks, that is good to know | 22:41 |
| Aison | argh, i'm getting crazy ;) ldap nss is working now, but so far no chance for samba | 22:44 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #491623 in nmap (main) "ndiff crashes when its called with not nmap files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491623 | 22:51 |
| Mike_lifeguard | Apache's error logs show lots of IPs trying to access stuff that doesn't exist (/var/www/mysql, /var/www/pma, /var/www/mysqladmin, /var/www/phpadmin etc) - I guess those are looking for something to try to break into? In any case, is there a way to get rid of them? Should I not worry about it? | 23:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #491639 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "instalation fail in folder "" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491639 | 23:06 |
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| baccenfutter | anybody happen to have a nice pic of system respond times | 23:37 |
| baccenfutter | like a visualization or anything fancy you could put in a presentation | 23:38 |
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