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yodgohow sexy is my ride?03:33
yodgohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEO2eRw4y5Y03:34
yodgo!ops03:34
neo2If any one is here and could answer a quick question it would be appreciated.  Does xubuntu 9.10 have dual monitor or extended desktop feature?03:59
j1mcneo2: i was able to use xubuntu 9.10 on a basic extended desktop w/o any trouble04:00
j1mcbut i didn't do anything very advanced with it04:00
j1mci just accepted the defaults... main monitor on the left, alt monitor on the right04:00
neo2TKX04:00
j1mcif you need more advanced stuff, maybe try a gnome applet in the xfce panel04:00
yodgo!ops04:01
neo2being a newbe Ununtu 9.4 and 9.10 has a simple method to set it up, cant' seem to find anything similar in xubuntu 9.1004:02
neo2can you give the steps you you used? Only goal is two monitors.04:03
yodgohow sexy is my ride?04:04
yodgohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEO2eRw4y5Y04:04
j1mcneo2: i just plugged things in04:05
j1mci actually had a thinkpad docking station, and the monitors were attached to that04:05
j1mcso i didn't really follow any instructions, per se04:05
neo2ooo04:05
neo2in 'display' it only 'sees' one monitor04:05
neo2sounds like we are working with 2 different animals04:06
hobbsc_anyone have an issue with the screensaver not locking on a fresh install of xubuntu 9.10?05:02
j1mchobbsc_: when does it not lock for you?05:03
j1mchobbsc_: does it just not engage? or when you "lock" your screen... it doesn't really lock it05:04
j1mci have the former issue... it doesn't automatically turn on after a set period of time for me.05:04
hobbsc_i don't see an option to "lock" my screen anywhere, really05:05
hobbsc_but i set the screensaver to lock05:05
hobbsc_and it doesn't when the screensaver activates05:05
hobbsc_perhaps i'm missing a package?05:06
Sysictrl alt del05:06
hobbsc_ok, that worked05:07
hobbsc_but the screensaver won't lock the screen05:07
* hobbsc_ shrugs05:07
j1mchobbsc_: so when you press ctrl-alt-delete... the screensaver turns on, and it locks the screen05:07
j1mcwhen the screensaver turns on by itself (after inactivity)... no screen lock05:07
j1mcis that right?05:07
hobbsc_correct05:09
j1mci get the same thing05:09
hobbsc_hm05:09
Sysii don't use screensaver :)05:10
hobbsc_maybe a bug report is in order, heh05:10
hobbsc_where are bugs reported for xubuntu?05:10
j1mclooks like one is already in05:10
hobbsc_oh yeah?05:10
j1mchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/39789205:11
j1mchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/397892/comments/3105:12
j1mcthe last link is from charlie kravitz, the main xubuntu qa guy05:13
hobbsc_thanks for the link05:13
hobbsc_i'm relatively new to xubuntu, i check it out for a bit nearly every release05:13
hobbsc_this one seems to be a keeper, though05:13
j1mcthanks.  :)  i like xubuntu 9.10, too.05:15
j1mci notice you're an opensuse member.  what do you do for opensuse?05:15
hobbsc_i'm a member of the gnome team, but i was inactive for the 11.2 development cycle05:22
hobbsc_i was a freebsd zealot for years, but we moved to sles at work and i joined the opensuse teams05:22
hobbsc_project meeting at 0600 if you'd like to see opensuse membership in action :D05:22
j1mc:)05:24
j1mcthanks, but i'm at UTC-600, so that's midnight for me05:24
hobbsc_well05:24
hobbsc_0600 CST05:24
j1mci do like opensuse, though.  it includes a lot of great documentation packages05:24
hobbsc_meeting is 1200UTC05:24
hobbsc_yeah, i dig the project05:24
j1mcDITA, several versions of docbook05:24
j1mcno other linux distro packages DITA05:24
hobbsc_i joined it mainly to assist in getting features piped to SLEx05:25
j1mci'm not sure why opensude does05:25
hobbsc_not sure, myself05:25
hobbsc_have you seen the build service?05:25
hobbsc_heh, we're probably getting off topic for #xubuntu :)05:25
j1mca little bit of it, but not much05:25
j1mc-- /j #xubuntu-offtopic05:25
r0berty helo thar09:18
r0bertthe screensaver in my karmic installation here wont start09:18
r0berthow to proceed? gnome-screensaver is running09:18
OngacskaAllelujja bruderz09:27
Ongacskasziasztok dicsoseges tesvereim09:27
r0berthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+bug/39789209:34
r0bertic09:34
Ongacskar0bert brotha hosanna09:38
r0bertwhat?09:39
Ongacskanevermind brotha09:40
OngacskaHosanna r0bert britha10:13
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OngacskaHosanna dicsoseges tesvereim10:50
OngacskaAllah kegyeltje koszont titeket10:50
Ongacskaegy decivel tobb vagy kevesebb, nem mindegy?10:59
MaxFrameshello11:03
OngacskaHosanna MaxFrames bruder11:04
MaxFramessince it's unlikely that the screensaver not starting issue will be solved anytime soon, if ever, I'd like to ask you guys if anyone here has succeeded in replacing gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver, and what are the side effects of doing this (if there are any)11:05
MaxFramesfrom what I've read, you lose the ability to lock the screen from the logoff menu and from the panel bar11:06
MaxFramesalternatively, are there side effects in downgrading gnome-screensaver (and gnome-power-manager) to the jaunty version (which was working OK)?11:07
Ongacskadeci britha aloha11:17
Ongacskadicsoseges testverem11:17
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Balsaqi am going to install xubuntu, or whatever the most appropriate linux distro is, for a friend of mine today. he has 2.8 intel p4, 80 hd x7200, 512ram...but NO graphics card. it is intel extreme integrated graphics? i am wondering if he will be able to watch you tube and online videos with no dedicated graphics card?11:37
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meatbunwhat is package name for Terminal?12:53
Sysiwhich of them? :)12:53
Sysiin xubuntu: xfce4-terminal12:53
meatbuni found12:53
Jonny0starsHello, Just a quick question about 9.10. How can I enable cpu scaling on an eeepc 70013:17
Jonny0starsIts currently set the frequency to 650Mhz rather than the 800Mhz it supports13:17
Jonny0starsDoes anyone know of any user level applications to scale the cpu or does this have to be done in the kernel which is lacking the relevant modules13:19
_Pete_Jonny0stars: doesn't cpu freq go up when it has load?13:21
Jonny0stars_Pete_: Nope, It looks like there is no scaling support at all as the  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ doesn't have any files relating to frequency or governance13:23
Jonny0starsI cant modprobe the acpi-cpufreq module either13:24
_Pete_hmm ok13:25
_Pete_dunno13:25
_Pete_has it worked earlier13:25
Jonny0starsWell it worked on eeeubuntu but that doesn't surprise me as it installs everything under the sun13:26
_Pete_I think that is controlled only by kernel13:27
Jonny0starsI would like on demand cpu scaling but even setting it manually would do13:27
Jonny0starsah i managed to fix it by doing a modprobe p4_clockmod13:47
_Pete_nice13:48
Jonny0starsnow its changing back :s13:53
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abhifxhi there, is there a way to download deb files from ppa using a download manager?18:39
nikolami dont see why not18:46
nikolamjust go to ppa through web interface and download18:46
nikolamif it is bigger, ou can use gwget18:46
abhifxnikolam, thanks . but the problem is downloading individual file is difficult. is there a an automated process?18:48
abhifxnikolam, is the a good ftp downloader?18:52
nikolamabhifx, maybe you could put a lot of wget -c http://path/filename i one .sh file , make it executable with chmo +x and start it with ./filename to download18:55
nikolamor add everything in gwget18:55
abhifxnikolam, thanks, i will try18:56
nikolamor use WebHTTTrack Website Copier18:56
abhifxnikolam, hmmm.... that sounds goods18:58
nikolam:)18:58
nikolammaybe is there some other way, too, like making repository mirror18:59
nikolami think it is somewhere in help.ubuntu.com18:59
nikolamor on wiki etc18:59
abhifxnikolam, the only problem with the httrack is controlling the site copy limit. otherwise seeems a good idea. will try it.19:01
abhifxon the wiki? i checked it. i dont think i found anyting useful19:02
nikolamhm19:15
nikolamand on help?19:15
nikolamclick community contributed documentation on help.ubuntu.com then search19:16
nikolamI think here it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror19:17
nikolamtana na19:17
nikolamalso I think one can add package source to sources.list if directory with packages in on local disk, too19:18
slumbergodanyone here who might know more about gdm and how it is implemented with xubuntu karmic?19:46
Sysi!ask19:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:47
slumbergod1anyone here who might know more about gdm and how it is implemented with xubuntu karmic?19:55
Sysido you want same again? :)19:55
slumbergod1i was d/C19:55
slumbergod1sorry...i didn't get any replies. the wireless in the office gets overloaded during business hours19:56
Sysi!ask19:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:56
Sysiwe know or we don't, but we need a question19:56
slumbergod1sigh. is it possible to replace gdm 2.28 with 2.20 in xubuntu karmic19:57
WolfDogDesignsHey all. Was wondering if someone could help quickly. ... Ive got Xubuntu on a laptop with an ATI card, just trying to rotate the screen 90degrees ccw. .. cant seem to do it20:45
nikolamUh, how do i choose my screen saver program?21:07
nikolami deinstalled xscreensaver21:07
nikolamnow something white pops up instead21:08
nikolamI want default screen locker with switching ability and screen turinig off21:08
ToStItOsHow to I set up file sharing between Xubuntu and windows xp. I have Samba22:40
dvheumenhi everyone22:42
dvheumenI have some wallpaper (a debian wallpaper) flashing on and off the background when XFCE is starting (logging in) I don't have a clue how it came there, and I'm looking for a way to get rid of it. (I am running Xubuntu Karmic, fresh install)22:43
knomedvheumen, i wonder if that's the splash screen. see applications -> settings -> session and startup -> tab splash22:44
dvheumenWith flashing I mean that: I see my desktop with my own configured wallpaper, then for roughly a second a debian wallpaper appears (blueish with red logo) and then it changes back to my own wallpaper again.22:45
dvheumenI don't think it's the splash, it's configured to 'None'. Or are there additional options?22:45
knomeright, weird.22:45
knomeno, it's definitely not the splash screen then.22:45
dvheumenyeah I know ... and it seemed to appear after I installed some packages ... but I can't remember what packages exactly22:45
knomedvheumen, what's your computer configuration? how much ram, etc..22:45
dvheumenCore 2 Duo T7200, 2GB RAM22:46
dvheumenI don't suspect the slowness to cause this22:46
knomehehe, me neither22:46
knomejust checking22:46
dvheumenI've been checking the autostart apps for some setting that might load different settings22:46
dvheumenbut I've already disabled launching of Gnome and KDE settings22:46
dvheumenand that doesn't fix it22:47
dvheumenwould Nautilus do something that might change the wallpaper? ... it seems to be preloading ... as it is running now and I haven't started Nautilus yet22:48
knomeyeah, probably22:48
knomewould be a good thing to check at least22:49
dvheumenokay, can't find any settings that looks like a background for the desktop. I'm now checking the xsettings22:51
dvheumenthere are 3 references but all to the correct wallpaper, so that's not it :P22:51
SiDidvheumen, you installed your packages in command line?22:54
SiDiif so, look through your bash history22:55
SiDianyway, its very likely something in your .cache/sessions/ or in your .config/autostart that shows this "wallpaper"22:55
SiDiand nautilus does have wallpaper capabilities22:55
SiDiits the desktop manager on gnome22:55
SiDiso it could be nautilus that you see22:56
dvheumenSiDi, well the problem is more that I've done so much in the command line lately, that I wouldn't be able to find it ... I've been doing a lot of tweaking. Ow w8 ... crap ... I forgot to say one thing. The Karmic install was *fresh*, but I started with KDE4 and got fed up with it and switched to XFCE. So I've been adding XFCE packages and removing KDE packages. *But* the wallpaper I'm talking about is one I've never seen or used.22:58
dvheumenso that's why it's almost impossible to find the package causing the problems :|22:58
SiDiDid you add xubuntu-desktop or xfce4?22:58
SiDiand, please paste the result of ps aux somewhere22:59
dvheumenI'm 99% sure that I did the xubuntu-desktop22:59
dvheumenSiDi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/333481/ and the background wasn't there until after I installed at least a basic working XFCE with most XFCE apps ... (hope the info helps :P)23:02
SiDidvheumen, please remove nautilus, to begin23:04
SiDiyou're running both xfdesktop and nautilus at the moment23:04
dvheumenyeah I noticed that. I should only prevent preloading Nautilus right? ('cause I do need it for accessing smb shares)23:05
SiDiWe have gigolo and another app whose name i forgot for smb shares23:06
SiDijust make sure not to autostart nautilus and you should be ok23:07
SiDialso, launch it with the --no-desktop option :)23:07
SiDi(you may want to write an alias adding the option automatically for you)23:07
dvheumenSiDi, gigolo uses nautilus as far as I know23:07
SiDi(edit .bashrc to see how to write aliases, there's an exemple in the button of the file)23:07
SiDidvheumen, it doesnt23:07
dvheumenSiDi, hmmm... I think it does load it for me ... strange ... I'll have a look at that...23:08
dvheumenanyways, I think I've found the wallpaper: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background --> link to /etc/alternatives/desktop-background23:09
dvheumenso it seems to be a alternatives-setting :P23:09
SiDiim pretty sure its nautilus' default settings ;)23:12
dvheumenokay ... I think I know what the problem is. metacity and gnome-session are default instead of xfwm4 and xfce4-session ... they seemed to have slipped in ... probably during the switch to 'gdm' ... do you guys agree that this might be plausible? ('cause I'm guessing a bit at the moment ...)23:14
SiDiit may be23:14
SiDidid you install gnome too?23:14
SiDior, is it only gdm doing some snappy crap?23:15
dvheumennope, but during the switch to XFCE i didn't know exactly what packages I needed. So then I had XFCE running using KDM. And I think upon switchen to GDM ... GDM "suggested" some useful packages :P23:15
SiDioh23:16
dvheumenmy bad for not using XFCE immediately :D23:16
SiDidont listen to what it suggests23:16
SiDihalf of its hard depends are already rather bad23:16
dvheumenno, but apt-get does by default now :P23:16
SiDioh23:16
SiDiit doesnt do only recommend?23:16
dvheumenI kind of hate that setting :P23:16
dvheumenwoops23:16
dvheumenI meant it probably is recommended23:17
SiDiokies23:17
dvheumenrecommends are added by default I guess23:17
SiDiyeah but that is normal23:17
SiDiits the semantics of recommends :D23:17
dvheumenyup :P23:17
dvheumenand suggests are only suggested ... anyways, I'm gonna log in and out and test my new settings :) ... brb23:17
SiDiblargh, i need some sleep23:18
SiDiknome, if he asks where i am when he logs back, could you please tell him i'm gone to bed? :D23:19
dvheumenokay23:23
dvheumenso it didn't yet work :P ... Nautilus is my next victim, but for now I'm gonna take some sleep. Just wanted to say thanks for the help and feedback ... it helps me lots in finding the problem! ... at least I now know it's probably some redundant KDE/Gnome app.23:24
ToStItOsDoes anyone know how to set up Pyneighborhood?23:26

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