=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:52] launchpad has been threatinging to go offline for the past 20 mins, heh [01:56] nixternal: you about? [02:01] maybe we need a launchpad cluster/cloud [02:07] DarkwingDuck: yo yo [02:09] Well Launchpad's reliablity does exceed it's speed. [02:09] heh [02:09] it has killed bzr and everything too [02:10] Code hosting is supposed to be out too. [02:10] ?? [02:10] Didn't check if it actually is. [02:10] it is [02:10] upload.ubuntu.com is down, much to my chagrin [02:11] the world is ending, hurry, everyone, lets go over to arch! [02:11] LOL [02:11] How long is this going to last? [02:11] probably an hour or so [02:11] hey nixternal, you work with kde-doc guys too right? [02:11] this is good, I need to go pick up my new spinner bike [02:12] DarkwingDuck: I am the team lead for kde documentation project [02:12] the fact that the launchpad website itself is still up worries me a bit though [02:12] Ahh hah [02:12] well, I act as the team lead, but I haven't done a damn thing since the last freeze :/ [02:12] spinners like on expensive SUVs? [02:12] haha, no, spinning bike for the winter [02:12] :P [02:12] He'll be getting some grillz next you hear [02:12] ha [03:22] nixternal: saw your blog post that is awesome [03:23] are they committing yet or just sending the completed doc to you or me to commit? [03:26] Is Darkwing on? [03:26] DarkwingDuck: ^^^ [03:26] client idle 12 mins [03:27] who what? [03:28] I'm here now. [03:28] thanks for the mail this evening...Carl [03:28] Oh hey Carl [03:28] Thanks for your help man [03:28] I didn't hurt your feelings? [03:28] LOL [03:28] Not at all [03:29] does Lucid have KDE 4.4? [03:29] Not yet... as far as I know it will be added soon [03:29] kallecarl: We are packaging KDE SC 4.4 beta right now. [03:29] next week or so right ScottK? [03:29] It'll be in Lucid once it's released (likely Monday) [03:29] DarkwingDuck: yes [03:29] Then my netbook will be an adventure! [03:30] the kde-promo people are working on the feature guide. would like to see it befor e jumping in on that [03:30] We'll have it in Lucid as soon as we can. The tarballs we have now to work on packaging are on a non-disclosure basis until release day. [03:31] Dark...you mentioned jumping in on some subject from the doc todos. it looks like they're mostly spoken for [03:31] graphics, media [03:31] still unassigned [03:31] Yeah, I noticed that after I emailed you LOL [03:31] where is the old documentation [03:32] bztr [03:32] Old documentation was from KDE 3.x [03:32] bzr [03:32] it was comfortable editing your stuff, but coming up with new is more of a challenge. hats off to you [03:32] LOL It's not too bad [03:32] where bzr jesse [03:32] the kubuntu-docs is maintained in bzr ifthat's what you are asking for, the old branch is lp:kubuntu-docs/karmic and the new branch is lp:kubuntu-docs [03:33] okay [03:33] there you go Carl. Thanks jjesse [03:33] welcome [03:33] i'll take a look at those tasks. [03:33] graphics/media [03:34] Hey jjesse, are there no games pre-installed? [03:34] you mentioned running Lucid in VM. Launched Vbox. notification of new version. dpkg didn't like the install of 3.1 over 3.08 [03:34] might just run it in a separate partition [03:35] That would work too. [03:35] is there something like svn on Lucid? [03:35] we use bzr [03:35] DarkwingDuck i don't think there are any games preinstalled [03:35] with launchpad [03:35] kallecarl: You can use bzr just like svn if you want. [03:35] I mean for the iso [03:35] Oh. [03:35] Lucid is still kde 4.3.3 [03:36] kallecarl: use the dailybuild URL I sent you [03:36] is it safe to go into the lucid water [03:36] jjesse: should we remove the games section from the docs? [03:36] kallecarl: its still pre-alpha-1 [03:36] kallecarl: No. [03:36] If you have to ask, the answer is no. [03:37] I dunno...i've gotten in trouble by doing it anyway [03:37] that's how it went with KDE 4.0 [03:37] Unless you are into serous testing and cruising for a bruising... :D [03:37] now I'm tickled with 4.3.4 and my LUG buddies are bitching about leaving 3.5 [03:37] :) [03:37] it's only eyecandy [03:38] No, it's not. [03:38] It's ALOT more then eyecandy [03:38] all that other stuff is just Aaron going on about stuff [03:38] Seigo [03:38] i know [03:38] I've presented at LUGseveral times. They're almost sold [03:39] just showed KNE. It was excellent [03:39] http://blug.org/news-record.dxp?id=139 [03:40] Carl, you get my note about KNE changing to KNR for Lucid? [03:40] yeah [03:40] enough fooling around...will run Lucid in a VM and check out those two topics [03:41] I'd just as soon not contend with redoing grub2. It's beautifulthe way I've got it now [03:41] :) ping me if ya need anything I'm jumping back and forth from here and nano [03:41] i'm cool...thanks all. I will email any new stuff Darkwing [03:41] Oh BTW jjesse, I have fallen in love with nano [03:44] yaya :) [03:45] Is there a way to get nano to highlight in Karmic like it does in Lucid? [03:45] no idea [03:46] lol [03:48] quite probably: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62250 [03:48] ^ DarkwingDuck [03:48] DarkwingDuck: Switching to vim will do that for you. [03:48] vim? [03:49] Thansk dtchen [03:50] DarkwingDuck: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-enable-syntax-highlighting-in.html [03:51] ooh somebody beat me to the punch === yofel_ is now known as yofel [04:09] Had to write one for XML but, thank you all. [04:10] jjesse: you use nano? [05:40] Nightrose: ping === ramblurr is now known as Ramblurr [05:55] Tonio_: Did you send me that e-mail? [06:33] DarkwingDuck: don't be like JontheEchidna, ditch nano :) no self-respecting hacker can claim they use nano [06:34] * ScottK [06:34] Why can't they claim they use nano? [06:34] It's as obvious a newbie move as wondering around a ship asking where you should be for your mail buoy watch [06:38] * Sput prefers joe === inetghost is now known as hibana [06:56] ScottK: can you go down to the daviey jones locker and get me a marlin spike so I can break up the ice on the weather deck? [06:56] or, do me a favor, run down to the boiler room and request a BT Punch [06:57] my favorite was passing through the straights of gibraltor at night, and telling the new fish to grab a broom and get top side and keep an eye out for the flying monkeys [06:58] O_o [06:58] * Sput must have missed an important piece of culture [06:58] hehe, it was navy jokes we did to the new people [06:59] a BT Punch is an actual fist to the body from a BT, which is a Boiler Tech in the navy [07:00] a marlinspike is used by sailors to untie knots in rope [07:00] ah [07:01] ScottK: or....go get some new light bulbs for the bright work :) [07:13] nixternal: I use nano or Kate most of the time (: [08:10] DAskreech: pong [08:21] Nightrose: I was just asking what was the numbers you had seen in the techrepublic poll asking about the readers opinons of KDE? [08:22] DAskreech: 70/ for continuing - don't remember the other numbers - why? [08:22] It's like 46 now :( [08:24] wth? [08:25] !info accountz-baz lucid [08:25] Package accountz-baz does not exist in lucid [08:39] !info accountz-baz [08:39] Package accountz-baz does not exist in karmic [08:39] riiight [08:39] jussi01: you can guess it's in Lucid, too [10:13] good morning [10:14] folks, do you know tsimpson is running for IRC Council? Some cheers would be nice: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TerenceSimpson [10:17] yeah Mamarok i heared this yesterday [10:17] :D [11:45] nixternal: are you here? === bbigras is now known as Guest90010 [12:51] ping JontheEchidna [12:52] !ninjas [12:52] Help! apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, tsimpson, vorian === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan [12:59] rgreening_: shouldn't we be there too? :P [13:03] yeah... [13:03] I need an invite to the batcave [13:04] my nic at home is still connected [13:04] or is there a way I can kik that nic so I can re auth from here [13:05] /msg NickServ GHOST rgreening :P [13:05] * rgreening_ tries === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [13:06] whee [13:06] ty [13:07] no problem :) [13:37] !info lucid libmediastreamer-dev [13:37] 'libmediastreamer-dev' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner [13:37] !info libmediastreamer-dev lucid [13:37] libmediastreamer-dev (source: linphone): linphone web phone's media library. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-2ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 19 kB, installed size 204 kB === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:05] o.O [15:10] !find XShapeQueryExtension [15:10] File XShapeQueryExtension found in libxext-dev, xmanpages-ja === m4v_ is now known as m4v [17:06] the fullscreen mode of vlc doesn't work with kde >= 4.3.3 (bug #485030) [17:06] Launchpad bug 485030 in gentoo "Full-screen mode has panel showing on KDE4" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485030 [17:07] how should this be fixed for users of kubuntu-ppa? [17:09] That bug is a vlc's bug and not kde bug, there is no fix yet for lucid, you should wait the fix for lucid before the fix for karmic [17:09] a SRU of vlc (the bug might affect other window managers as well) or put an updated package of vlc in kubuntu-ppa? [17:11] I think to kubuntu-ppa [17:12] I'm not sure if the patch is going into the lucid package as it'll be fixed in 1.0.4 anyway [18:09] debfx: We want to try to get kde 4.3.4 into karmic-updates, so a pre-emptive SRU of VLC might be useful [18:10] debfx: Also I'm working on packaging kdebase-workspace for 4.4 beta. Your brightness patch didn't exactly apply, so I'm disabling it for the first upload and hope you'll be able to look into it. [18:32] nixternal: ping [18:34] nixternal: tighten the MPAs nuts and batteries for the sound powers phones were my favorites [18:37] DarkwingDuck: So you understand the concept of Nano then. [18:39] you mean as a light editor? [18:39] I mean as something people might laugh at you for doing. [18:40] Honestly, I don't care... :P Its light, simple and now it highlights XML files [18:40] I mostly use kate for longer work but, for a quick edit, nano [18:40] Just giving you some grief .... [18:41] Oh I know. [18:41] *snickers* [18:41] Im a 7 year sailor.... there isn't anything ANYONE can say that will bug me or get under my skin [18:41] The design genius behind control W for saving a document and control O to exit, never ceases to amaze me. [18:47] :D === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Guest90010 is now known as bbigras === bbigras is now known as Guest75622 === bbigras_ is now known as bbigras [19:41] hrm, a good while back I suggested a task manager with only icons, does anyon know if this is possiblle yet? === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan [19:43] jussi01: you really just need to stack another view on the ksystemguard model I suppose [19:44] getting icons however will only work for apps which have one in the regular ksystemguard though [19:46] apachelogger: Im just talking about removing the names from programs in the taskbar/panel [19:47] jussi01: despite I do not see the point of it ... just right click on the name column and say hide :P [19:47] apachelogger: nam column? [19:47] name column [19:47] * jussi01 thinks apachelogger doesnt understand what he wants... [19:48] ohhhhh [19:48] now I get it [19:48] apachelogger: Im talking about the plasmoid in the panel that shows currently running programs [19:48] jussi01: like smooth tasks? [19:48] :D [19:48] * apachelogger didnt read that clearification properly [19:48] jussi01: stasks does that [19:48] well, in the win7 kind of way [19:48] ok, where do I get that? [19:48] jussi01: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586 [19:49] yeah, thats the kinda thing Im talking about [19:49] !info plasma-widget-stasks [19:49] plasma-widget-stasks (source: plasma-widget-stasks): a task manager replacement. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 62 kB, installed size 224 kB [19:49] apachelogger: oooh, thanks!! [19:49] wait wait wait [19:50] thats not quite what Im after... [19:50] that is as close as it gets :P [19:50] ok, look at this screenshot: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=101586&file1=101586-1.png&file2=101586-2.png&file3=101586-3.jpg&name=Smooth+Tasks [19:51] the programs listed in the panel, I dont want names, only the icons... [19:51] jussi01: smooth tasks != stasks [19:51] see description [19:52] * apachelogger never likes forks to begin with :P [19:52] oh, I clicked on zorael's link... :D [19:52] * jussi01 installs and tries [19:53] jussi01: http://imagebin.ca/view/teEyBoP1.html [19:54] ahh, exactly... [19:54] you can also turn off grouping, then you dont have to use them popups I suppose [19:55] yeah, I _hate_ grouping [19:55] it's actually quite barable with stasks [19:55] hate it with regular taskbar too though [19:56] nope, not imho. it still takes too long... I just want to click once and be where I want to be.. [19:56] without text that should turn out difficult if you do have more than one windows :P [19:58] * JontheEchidna is using plasma-widget-fancytasks at the moment [19:58] JontheEchidna: screenshot? [19:59] sec [19:59] hrm, themings got me now :P [20:00] jussi01: it's dark path which you should avoid... [20:00] lol [20:00] it comes with a fancypanel containment that looks like the OSX dock (if you can do compositing, which I can't) [20:00] JontheEchidna: because I accidently clicked on my bugs mail folder ... bug 492010 the subject sounds like a dupe of that infamous java bug [20:00] JontheEchidna: can be used as widget in desktop too [20:01] Launchpad bug 492010 in kdebase-workspace "strigi service not running, unable to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/492010 [20:01] Tm_T: I have an autohidden normal panel at the bottom left corner of the screen that I can throw my mouse down towards [20:02] that autohidden panel holds the normal fancytasks widget [20:02] jussi01: http://imagebin.ca/view/CQK6TAS.html [20:02] I don't know why I have that xbar on the top panel since I'm not using bespin anymore :P [20:03] nice [20:03] :) [20:03] oh, and if anybody knows what the issue is with that icecc error message... ;-) [20:04] would it be safe to copy my modified debian/ over to bzr dir, edit changelog and upload? [20:05] JontheEchidna: configure your icecc properly :P [20:06] JontheEchidna: in the hook you need to set the scheduler IP or hostname [20:06] otherwise icecream will not be able to connect and hence turn itself off to prevent overhead [20:06] since passing stuff through icecc will create overhead for one single machine [20:08] let's add this to repos -> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/todo+list?content=90706 :P [20:10] lololool both Smooth and Fancy Tasks are made by polish developer [20:10] I didn't know :D [20:11] apachelogger: thx [20:23] sweet, it works [20:34] JontheEchidna: Someone was asking for snow pictures in the weather wallpaper. I kinda don't get to test snow very often. I assume there is one? He was getting wheat fields [20:35] daskreech: if the weather provider says it's snowing there should be a snow wallpaper [20:36] the weather provider may be saying that the weather is clear, even if snow is on the ground [20:36] unfortunately we don't have computer sensors to detect snow :P [20:39] Yeah That's what I told him [20:39] that's how it goes yes [20:41] Is someone working on a MIR for shared-desktop-ontologies? [20:42] ugh, writing up a proper debian/copyright for that is going to be "fun" [20:45] JontheEchidna: In the mean time, I'd suggest finding a minion to start working on the MIR. [20:45] Tonio_: ping [20:46] Bleah Phonon is still screwed for me [20:46] JontheEchidna: indeed [20:47] JontheEchidna, ScottK: What do I need to mention in a MIR, package name, reason and what else? [20:47] Quintasan: There's a MIR template on the wiki. Fill it in. [20:47] there's a template to fill out [20:47] okay [20:48] the MIR shouldn't be too hard since there's not any code, as far as I can see [20:48] just a bunch of xml files [20:48] it should be merely data yes [20:48] I am wondering if the package couldn't be arch all, though I'm not sure [20:48] JontheEchidna: If it's all data, is should be. [20:51] symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei [20:52] lol [20:53] daskreech: with KDE 4.4 series? [20:57] JontheEchidna: are you using any packaging systems in shared-desktop-ontologies? [20:58] Quintasan: debhelper 7 with the kde debhelper addon [20:58] daskreech: What are you trying to do? [21:01] damn === fale__ is now known as fale [21:32] Greetings from the bug squad! [21:33] I am dealing with a bug report and it seems that the person used a package from the Kubuntu Updates Staging ppa [21:33] and I am not sure how you would like it handled [21:40] the error is extra files in the kde-I10n-gl_4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb that conflict with kde-i18n-gl_3.5.9-0 package [21:40] it appears that the conflicting files do not belong there at all in the kde-I10n-gl package [21:41] KDE 3.5.9 :o [21:42] sorry.... kde-i18n-gl-4:3.5.9-0ubuntu3 [21:44] anyway, the files in the kde-I10n-gl-4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1 do not appear in kde-I10n-gl-4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 [21:45] makes me wonder if there was a mistake [21:45] WeatherGod: I wonder this 3.5.9 there, its... old [21:47] no, it's ... ok, I don't understand [21:50] WeatherGod: We have a kubuntu-ppa project with a bug tracker. Please reassign the bug there and i'll look at it. [21:50] wasn't 3.5.10 released over a year ago? [21:51] * Tm_T is really puzzled with these version numbers [21:51] Tm_T: It was, but I don't think we uploaded the new translations. [21:51] It was post-Hardy, so it was in -updates [21:51] ScottK: ah, yeah, those are just dragging along [21:51] that'll explains it [21:53] evening fellow kubuntu dudes [21:54] Good evening Riddell. [21:55] JontheEchidna and Lex79: Except for the phonon problem, are we ready to put Qt 4.6.0 in the archive? [21:55] evening Riddell [21:56] ScottK: thanks, that's what I'll do [21:56] ScottK: the armel issue is not fixed yet, but qt 4.6 is ready in ppa [21:56] Riddell: I'm expecting you can't upload Qt where you are, but if you could review it, I'd appreicate it. [21:57] Lex79: The proposed workaround on armel didn't work. [21:57] :( [21:57] * ScottK has to go. See you later. [22:01] nixternal: are you here? [22:02] ScottK: review from bzr? [22:08] Lex79: Qt is update to date in bzr, right? [22:08] Riddell: If Lex79 says it's up to date, yes [22:13] OH my, the folks on the sounder ML are a strange lot. I redirected some of the incorrigible OT adepts to that list to keep kubuntu-users sane, I am flabbergasted what they made of sounder... [22:15] hi Riddell, what on earth are you doing at work while on holiday? [22:17] Mamarok: having free time from free time [22:21] Hey Riddell, how is vacation? [22:29] Mamarok: just making sure anarchy hasn't broken lose in my absence [22:29] DarkwingDuck: very cold, canoeing in the snow all day today [22:34] Riddell: I envy you. no snow here still ): [22:36] It was 16 degrees Celsius and rainy today in New Hampshire [22:54] It was quite nice here today too. [22:57] it's a wonder I have any toes left === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:15] new shared-desktop-ontologies package in revu [23:23] Someone else should REVU it so I can accept it later. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates