[02:07] <nigel_nb> maco: ping
[02:39] <dtchen> nigel_nb: try back in an hourish (she's napping)
[02:39] <nigel_nb> dtchen: thank you :)
[02:39] <nigel_nb> good to know she's sleeping (for a change)
[04:00] <darkpixel> I have a simply python app that I am trying to package for both Hardy and Karmic.  According to the Debian guide the changelog supports something like 'mypackage (1.0) hardy karmic; urgency=log', but when I upload the source package to my PPA, it complains that I can only use one distribution at a time.  Is there an easy to use the same source for multiple releases?  Do I just need to create two identical copies of my ...
[04:00] <darkpixel> ... source just changing the changelog for each release?
[04:02] <ScottK> darkpixel: PPA specific questions are probably best asked in #launchpad.
[04:02] <darkpixel> ScottK: Will do.  Thanks.  I wasn't sure if this was me misunderstanding packaging or something specific to launchpad.
[06:07] <CarlFK> asac:  i see you do libgtk...   what does it take to get this included?  http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gtk+/diff/gdk/gdkwindow.c?h=gtk-2-18
[06:08] <CarlFK> I am building 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 now to make sure it builds clean, then again with that patch
[06:11] <slytherin> CarlFK: why is this change needed?
[06:12] <CarlFK> an app I use (dvswich) malfunctions
[06:12] <CarlFK> here is the bug report that lead to that fix:  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601473
[06:13] <slytherin> CarlFK: is there a bug in launchpad files against the app you are using?
[06:13] <CarlFK> no
[06:14] <CarlFK> should I ?
[06:14] <slytherin> yes
[06:15] <CarlFK> will do
[06:22] <CarlFK> slytherin:  Ill ref the debian and gnome reports - should I copy the text from the original debian bug report?
[06:23] <slytherin> CarlFK: Was that filed by you?
[06:23] <CarlFK> no - by ben, the lead dvswitch dev
[06:24] <CarlFK> but I am a dev, the one that found it, and care most about getting it fixed
[06:24] <slytherin> CarlFK: You can copy the description. Just mention that you copied form the debian bug (with url).
[06:27] <CarlFK> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvswitch/+bug/491732
[06:41] <slytherin> CarlFK: I have changed the source package to gtk+. And since gtk+ is in main you may want to discuss the bug in #ubuntu-devel
[06:41] <CarlFK> oh right... dvswitch distracted me
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <micahg> for an SRU using a bzr branch, so I still need to attach a debdiff?
[08:29] <micahg> jdstrand: bug 488559 didn't appear to make it into lucid yet, that version listed in teh bug didn't have it
[08:45] <akheron> geser: after discussing in #debian-mentors, too, I dropped the depends to libc6-dev | libc-dev: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jansson
[10:00] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[10:01] <dholbach> hi iulian
[10:04] <^arky^> hi dholbach
[10:04] <dholbach> hey ^arky^
[10:04] <dholbach> how are you guys doing?
[10:06] <^arky^> great!
[10:10] <^arky^> any help on bug 491294 how to request a sync from debian ?
[10:11]  * iulian is not doing so good.
[10:11] <iulian> Headache is killing me.
[10:44]  * slytherin hates nick names with special characters
[11:28] <ciphergoth> hello masters of the Universe!  I maintain a package called mercurial-server that has very recently become part of Debian unstable.  I'd like to get this package into Lucid Lynx next.  What should I do?
[11:30] <geser> does it have any chance to move to testing?
[11:30] <ciphergoth> I just fixed the two low-priority bugs against it and pushed a 1.0
[11:30] <ciphergoth> I imagine it will end up in testing in the usual ten days
[11:30] <Laney> then it will get into Lucid automatically
[11:30] <ciphergoth> but I thought Ubuntu pulled from unstable?
[11:31] <ciphergoth> Laney: I haven't missed the cutoff date?
[11:31] <Laney> this release is syncing from squeeze by default
[11:31] <Laney> nope
[11:31] <ciphergoth> what is the cutoff date?
[11:31] <geser> not for lucid: for lucid we sync with testing
[11:31] <geser> once your package is in testing it should get auto-synced (don't know how often it get currently done)
[11:32] <geser> if it's not synced till DIF we can request a sync
[11:32] <geser> DIF= Debian Import Freeze
[11:33] <ciphergoth> and DIF is on December 31st?
[11:33] <Laney> !lucid
[11:33] <Laney> blast
[11:34] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[11:35] <ciphergoth> Laney:  that is the web page I have been looking for all over - thanks! I used the wrong search terms.
[11:35] <ciphergoth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSDebianImportFreeze is the key date it seems, and that's Feb 11th.
[11:36] <ciphergoth> that might even be time enough for me to Debianize my *other* package and get that one in too...
[11:37] <Laney> it's quite late this cycle
[11:37] <Laney> plenty of time
[11:37] <ciphergoth> yeah, I'd thought it would be much earlier.  Right, will do some hacking over the Xmas break :-)
[11:38] <ciphergoth> btw the one that's in Debian is http://www.lshift.net/mercurial-server.html and the other one is http://dev.lshift.net/paul/rurple/
[11:39] <ana_> yo guys! :)
[11:39] <ana_> i need help
[11:39] <ana_> my friends computer with UBUNTU 9.10 is freezing all the time
[11:39] <ana_> can somebody help me?
[11:39] <ana_> to solve this problem?
[11:39] <ciphergoth> ana_: you want the #ubuntu channel
[11:40] <ciphergoth> also, when you get there read the links in the "topic" for some hints on how best to get useful help
[11:40] <ana_> #ubuntu
[11:40] <ana_> hm:)
[11:41] <ana_> ok so i should go to ubuntu channel and than ask there
[11:41] <ana_> thank you ciphergoth
[11:42] <ciphergoth> You're welcome.  Remember to read the links in the topic.
[12:53] <Rune> Could someone please triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maxima/+bug/303587 its importance really is quite critical
[12:54] <Laney> Rune: we have the fixed version already
[12:54] <Laney> if #1 is to be believed
[12:56] <Rune> actually it reemerged
[12:57] <Rune> in karmic
[12:57] <Rune> see bottom comments
[12:57] <Laney> you should forward it upstream
[12:58] <Rune> some comments suggest it's a packaging problem
[13:05] <Laney> if it fails with ASLR, that sounds like an upstream bug
[13:16] <Rune> Laney, not a gcc problem as one of the comment suggest?
[13:16] <Laney> doubt it
[13:16] <Laney> but I don't know the problem obviously
[13:18] <Rune> It is hard for me to test because "apt-get source maxima; apt-get build-dep maxima; cd maxima-5.17.1; debian/rules;" does not work.
[13:18] <soren> It's not supposed to.
[13:18] <soren> Try "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" instead of debian/rules
[13:18] <Rune> ahh
[13:19] <Rune> thanks
[13:19] <soren> Rune: ^
[13:28] <Rune> I failed building maxima with dpkg-buildpackage. Then I tried rebuilding gcl with dpkg-buildpackage as gcl might be the sinner here. However, gcl did feel like compiling either because of ASLR.
[17:06] <stochastic> is there any way to "apt-get source" a Lucid package from within a Karmic install?
[17:12] <james_w> stochastic: you can add deb-src lines for lucid
[17:12] <james_w> stochastic: or there is pull-lp-source in ubuntu-dev-tools
[17:24] <Daviey> Do we have a DEP-3 comptiable equivilant to Bug-Debian: ?
[17:24] <Daviey> Or do we use that anyway to point to LP?
[17:24] <Daviey> (Ubuntu centric bug)
[17:49] <micahg> for an SRU on a package using a bzr branch, do I still need to attach a debdiff?
[18:05] <geser> probably as it's easier for the SRU people to review the changes you want to upload
[18:06] <micahg> geser: ok, thanks
[20:32] <WasserDragoon> hi, how to make a source package with 2 binaries?
[20:32] <WasserDragoon> using debuild
[21:03] <micahg> anyone available to push an SRU to proposeD?
[23:05] <awe_> nxvl, cody-somerville, could you one of you guys explain to me when how often merges.ubuntu.com refreshes?
[23:27] <ScottK> In theory every 6 hours.
[23:28] <ScottK> In practice, lately, not so much.
[23:33] <nxvl> awe_: ^^
[23:33] <nxvl> awe_: i always re-check with pts and lp to see if the versions are accurate
[23:34] <awe_> ScottK, thanks...
[23:35] <awe_> ScottK, the debian bzr branches for the package are out-of-date too ( james_w is looking at why ), so guess I'll have to do it the hard way.  ;)
[23:36] <james_w> awe_: if LP wasn't down I could force a check of the packages you want :-)
[23:36] <awe_> ;D
[23:38] <awe_> james_w, np, I managed to download my first source package directly from Debian, so progress is being made!
[23:38] <nxvl> awe_: what package are you working on?
[23:56] <micahg> anyone want to push an SRU into proposed?