[01:34] <yotux> I need to edit my apps menu can anyone point me in the right direction for this?
[01:35] <everfart> can you just right-click and then "edit menu"?
[01:35] <everfart> im on ubuntu right now, cant check for myself
[01:35] <everfart> right-click on the apps menu i mean
[01:35] <yotux> I don't think that is an option
[01:35] <everfart> kk
[01:36] <yotux> that give me properties box though
[01:36] <yotux> will try to locate the file listed
[01:37] <yotux> just moved over to xubuntu used it a few cycles ago and there was  a menu editor no longer there :(
[01:37] <everfart> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-418814.html
[01:37] <everfart> might help
[01:40] <yotux> thanks it was very helpful
[01:41] <everfart> np
[01:48] <everfart> could someone please help me with manually configuring grub to recongnize a xubuntu isntallation?
[01:48] <everfart> i just dont know how to find where the kernel is
[01:50] <everfart> maybe
[02:01] <everfart> awww yeah! nvm
[02:13] <rcscomp> I am trying to get xubuntu installed dual booting Windows 7.  I have raid turned on through my motherboard.  The install goes fine, but when the system boots, it automatically goes into windows 7.  Can anyone help me figure out why GRUB isn't getting installed?
[03:26] <toshi> how do you turn off the "growl" like popups everytime you do something like adjust your volume?
[03:31] <toshi> damn, no one knows how to turn that off?
[04:01] <Balsaq> trying to refurb a compaq deskpro 450mgz 256srdam with xubuntu...sure sounds funny going in?
[04:01] <Balsaq> 9.04...
[04:02] <Balsaq> like its chokin" on it?
[04:19] <Balsaq> stuck on page 5 of 7 on a xubuntu install, the who are you page...won't do anything?
[04:26] <Balsaq> can i still burn a xubuntu 9.04 to a cd or will i have to take 9.10?
[04:30] <n2diy> Balsaq: you should be able to find 9.04 archived somewhere, try googling old ubuntu.
[04:40] <Balsaq> ahh, this particular computer just wont accept it...
[04:42] <Balsaq> gonna forcs me to put xp on this one...bummer
[04:42] <Balsaq> forcs=force....
[04:45] <n2diy> why would you load a virus on your computer?
[04:56] <Balsaq> its so loaded with virus' right now i can't do anyhting...its not mine
[04:57] <Balsaq> i can't get it  do to a dadgum thing...i am going to have to use whatever i can do delete the existing data on it...and then try to load what ever it will take i guess...but xubuntu won't go in it?
[04:58] <Balsaq> i am on xubuntu 904 right now...love it
[04:59] <n2diy> Balsaq: do you know how to program in assembly language?
[05:00] <Balsaq> no i am a non tech linux newbie
[05:00] <Balsaq> but my friends are even less
[05:00] <n2diy> 10-4
[05:00] <Balsaq> i have had great luck with xubuntu 904 to refurbish messed up windows computers
[05:00] <Balsaq> my buddies think i am a tech?
[05:01] <Balsaq> hahahahah
[05:02] <n2diy> Balsaq: I wonder, does compaq put hidden partitions on their hds?
[05:02] <Balsaq> they gave me 2 tonight, a dell 2400...xubuntu went in and fixed it beautifully...this one is even older
[05:02] <Balsaq> showed only one 6150 partiton before i wacked it
[05:02] <Balsaq> ?
[05:02] <Balsaq> told it to use the whole thing...
[05:02] <Balsaq> want to scrub it
[05:02] <Balsaq> reformatting now
[05:03] <n2diy> Balsaq: So partitioning worked, but the install failed? Weird.
[05:03] <Balsaq> well thats what happened with buntu
[05:03] <Balsaq> it went all the way to the who are you thing
[05:03] <Balsaq> well past the partition part
[05:04] <Balsaq> then i noticed i couldnt type in my name or anything...mouse not responsive
[05:04] <Balsaq> had trouble with the 1st one too but it took 904 in the ens this one is kickin?
[05:05] <Balsaq> the dell wouldnt take linux mint or ubuntu 910 or ubuntu 810...took 904 xubuntu in the end i meant
[05:05] <Balsaq> this one wont even do xubuntu 904?
[05:06] <Balsaq> it appears to be taking xp pro sp3...but i just learned i aint over till its over with these old messed ones
[05:06] <Balsaq> i have no choice...but no i wanted 904 xubu in her
[05:07] <n2diy> Balsaq: Stop putting viruses on the computer! :) You might try older versions of Ubuntu?
[05:08] <Balsaq> you didnt listen...once i get this thing free of virus i think it will take 904
[05:08] <Balsaq> or maybe otheres
[05:08] <Balsaq> he messed these up like you can't believe
[05:10] <Balsaq> the 1st one took over 4 hours...was loaded with virus and spyware...wouldnt do anything...just a bif screen in front of me that explained the virus isse, everything nonresponsive
[05:10] <Balsaq> so i just keep trying a fresh OS install until something lets me do it...after that i am hoping its clean?
[05:11] <Balsaq> its kind of a wierd non tech style of clean up i suppose
[05:13] <Balsaq> i really dislike all windows..except xp pro sp3
[05:15] <Balsaq> tell me bout these hiddn partitions?
[05:15] <Balsaq> n2diy
[05:15] <n2diy> yes=
[05:16] <n2diy> yes?
[05:16] <Balsaq> tell me about hidden partition
[05:17] <Balsaq> can they keep virus alive
[05:17] <n2diy> Some OEMs, like Dell, Compaq, etc..., put hidden partitions on their HDs, they can be a PITA. Never met one, but...
[05:19] <Balsaq> i have all dell...and now working on 1 compaq...i sure hope i did clean installs on them
[05:19] <Balsaq> otherwise i willl not know if i really wiped em clean
[05:20] <Balsaq> see this guy...got the virus, then kept usung it until the computer went non responsive, so i worry the virus had time to get into everything
[05:22] <n2diy> Balsaq: yes, they can harbor virus. But a formatted partition "should" wipe them clean. This is why I asked you if you knew how to program in assembly. I know of a DOS debug routine that will write all zeros to a hard drive. But I don't know the correct syntax to get it to work with Ubuntu/Linux.
[05:23] <Balsaq> wow i wish i knew how to zero everything, thats sound even better
[05:23] <Balsaq> but it did appear that i took the entire HD...and wiped it the it went back and asked me to build a new one in that space
[05:24] <n2diy> Balsaq: how big is the HD?
[05:24] <Balsaq> was 6150 mb on this compaq...the  dell that took the xubuntu was 80g
[05:24] <n2diy> Balsaq: how much free space does it have?
[05:24] <_Pete_> http://www.dban.org/
[05:25] <Balsaq> after i wacked the partition it said 6143 free or somethig
[05:25] <n2diy> you need 3 gig, maybe more?
[05:25] <Balsaq> ithink xubu is like 1.5 or so?
[05:25] <Balsaq> ubun is like 3 isnt it
[05:26] <Balsaq> updates bring it up some
[05:26] <n2diy> I forget, I try to play with drives that are 10 gig, or better.
[05:27] <Balsaq> actually he just gave me this to fix the dell 2400....if i cant fix it oh well
[05:27] <Balsaq> but i am clear up to thename part now
[05:38] <Balsaq> still says i gotta wait 29 more minutes....256sdram is killin me
[05:39] <Balsaq> ny bubtu comuters are all 40-60 hd....
[05:39] <Balsaq> buntu i meant
[05:39] <_Pete_> my 1.2T is getting full :(
[05:40] <Balsaq> whew
[05:40] <Balsaq> hey now ya got a reason too buy a new one!
[05:41] <_Pete_> yes but this is raid combined from 4drives so and all sata places are in use :/
[05:43] <Balsaq> one of these days i want you to show me how you put that system monitor on the side of the screen like that...is it always on? _Pete_\
[05:43] <_Pete_> Balsaq: hmm?
[05:44] <_Pete_> you mean the one in my screeshots or?
[05:44] <Balsaq> you sent me a screen shot of your OS...i saw a system monitor on it, lookws k=like it was always on
[05:44] <Balsaq> yes
[05:44] <_Pete_> yes it's always on
[05:44] <_Pete_> apt-get install gkrellm
[05:44] <Balsaq> thats cool
[05:44] <Balsaq> gonna write it down
[05:45] <Balsaq> when i get a big processor ill do it
[05:45] <Balsaq> they suck some power i noticed
[05:45] <Balsaq> just learning on these oldies....
[05:47] <Balsaq> _Pete_ is it an i7 or a quad core?
[05:47] <_Pete_> my is qc
[05:48] <Balsaq> hey what happened to Techie?
[05:48] <_Pete_> no idea
[05:49] <Balsaq> i can't believe this old computer would not take xubuntu 904...and it suckin in xp pro sp3...weird
[05:49] <Balsaq> its like they are alive
[06:42] <Balsaq> pete i am going to switch over to a fresh install computer i just finshed with see you in a a few minutes ...
[07:22] <raevol> can we get a kick on swine_flu please?
[07:22] <raevol> one of those hackerthreads people again
[07:22] <raevol> !ops
[08:06] <Balsaq> wow that was a pain in the asc...
[14:51] <Ongacska> Heavy TroLLz Attak warnin'
[14:54] <Ongacska> mi a repedt fasz van?
[14:55] <Ongacska> whatta penguinfuckerz things ?
[14:55] <ikonia> !ops | Ongacska
[14:59] <likemindead> !hotkeys
[14:59] <likemindead> Where are keyboard shortcut settings in Xfce/Xubuntu?
[15:02] <ablomen> likemindead, in window manager menu in the settings manager
[15:02] <ablomen> 2nd tab
[15:03] <likemindead> Thanks, ablomen. Couldn't seem to find a helpful link via Google. :-\
[15:08] <ablomen> np :)
[15:08] <likemindead> Oh... those are only window manager keyboard shortcuts. I'm wanting to assign hotkeys to, say, open a terminal, etc.
[15:09] <likemindead> I also use CrunchBang & I love just hitting super+T to open a terminal, etc.
[15:11] <ablomen> thats the keyboard menu in the settings manager
[15:16] <likemindead> Ah! Thanks, again!
[15:53] <PhantomFreak> Has anyone recently had a problem with an update which removed their ability to connect to the internet?
[18:08] <brian_> hey all, I have an issue with msttcorefonts
[18:08] <brian_> any websites I might be able to hit up for some help
[18:09] <brian_> is no one here awake?
[18:14] <likemindead> Hey, brian_, you can... oh... -__-
[18:19] <TheSheep> attetion span of a mayfly
[18:24] <PhantomFreak> I cannot get my WPA2 wireless to work for some reason in the last few days. Discovered that libnautilus-extensions1 was causing no network connection to work so I removed it, now the WPA2 doesn't work where as the old WEP (kept for DS and PSP) still works fine!
[18:40] <PhantomFreak> I cannot connect to the internet via my WPA2 wireless. WEP (kept for PSP & DS) works fine, but WPA2 doesn't work. However I can ping other computers on network. Has an update to system come in to change things?
[18:42] <AryehGregor> So where's the Software Center in Xubuntu 9.10?  It's installed, but I'm still seeing Add/Remove Applications on the menu.
[18:43] <AryehGregor> Actually, would it be possible for me to just use GNOME menus?  It's confusing when someone suggests going to some menu or other that doesn't exist in Xubuntu.
[19:59] <Venim> my fresh install of xubuntu cant' connect to a wpa-personal secured network
[20:01] <likemindead> What's your wireless card?
[20:01] <Venim> it uses the rt2870 driver
[20:02] <likemindead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342435
[20:02] <Venim> thanks
[20:02]  * Venim reboots back into linux
[20:06] <likemindead> AryehGregor, you can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package, but then, why not just install Ubuntu rather than Xubuntu?
[20:07] <Venim> thatnks , that worked
[20:07] <likemindead> :D
[20:07] <likemindead> PhantomFreak, what's your wireless card? Enter "lspci" in a terminal.
[20:07] <AryehGregor> likemindead, I have ubuntu-desktop installed.  I prefer some aspects of Xubuntu, like multiple monitor handling, so I use that, but the different menu annoys me.
[20:07] <Venim> now i can actually update hardware drivers
[20:14] <likemindead> Ah.
[20:14] <likemindead> I'm sure there's a way to change the menu, AryehGregor.
[20:15] <likemindead> Anything's possible in Linux. You just have to know how or write the code... ;-)
[20:20] <Venim> o great
[20:21] <Venim> ati's propietary drivers dont' work
[20:21] <likemindead> D'oh. I'm not a fan of ATI. :-\
[20:22] <Venim> i am not for linux
[20:22] <Venim> atm
[20:26] <likemindead> It's freedom, baby. Not always too easy. But always worth it.
[20:26] <Venim> wow
[20:26] <Venim> i used the ati uninstall
[20:26] <Venim> and now X is just as broken as it was before
[20:26] <likemindead> And "Ka-boom!" ?
[20:26] <Sysi> when linux works, it's best
[20:26] <Sysi> when not.. it's not the best
[20:27] <Venim> well as broken as it was before
[20:27] <likemindead> You could try the latest kernel, just released today. It has new ATI drivers.
[20:27] <Venim> i mean as broken as when i was trying to install arch
[20:27] <Venim> i just downloaded the kernel today
[20:28] <Sysi> my friend "played" with ati and dualhead for two days
[20:28] <Venim> whats odd
[20:28] <Sysi> he still prefer linux over windows
[20:28] <Venim> is that the CD said i could have drivers
[20:28] <Venim> the install cd*
[20:29] <Venim> but when i installed, it didn't tell there were any for me to download
[20:29] <Sysi> what ati do you have, new or old?
[20:29] <Venim> radeon HD 5750
[20:29] <Venim> so real new
[20:30] <Venim> is there any easy way to get X back to the way it was on install?
[20:30] <Venim> i tried restoring xorg.conf
[20:30] <Venim> but that didn't work
[20:30] <likemindead> Ah. Always risky being on the bleeding edge of hardware in Linux. :-\
[20:30] <likemindead> Especially when the proprietary drivers are locked down. :-(
[20:30] <Venim> well ati's drivers say they work for ubuntu
[20:30] <Sysi> did they say how well? :P
[20:31] <Venim> nope
[20:31] <Venim> 15:30:00 < Venim> is there any easy way to get X back to the way it was on install?
[20:32] <likemindead> The way Ubuntu has changed how Xorg works... I'm not sure.
[20:36] <Venim> olook it worked now
[20:37] <likemindead> Yeah?!
[20:38] <Venim> whats the root password for xubuntu?
[20:38] <Sysi> use sudo
[20:38] <Venim> yeah but whats the root password
[20:38] <Sysi> it wouldn't be secure if it's same for everybody :P
[20:39] <Sysi> you can set it by "sudo passwd root"
[20:39] <Venim> ok
[20:39] <Venim> thanks
[20:39] <Sysi> default is something random
[20:39] <Venim> didn't think about that
[20:40] <Venim> ati's control center wasn't starting up for its "administrative" one
[20:40] <Venim> so i'm just going to log into root and mess with it
[20:41] <squirrelpimp> Sysi: default is empty, so you can't login as root
[20:41] <squirrelpimp> so basically it's the same for everyone
[20:41] <squirrelpimp> hehe
[20:42] <Venim> yeah, i figured it owuld be empty
[20:42] <Sysi> if it's empty you wouldn't need password?
[20:42] <likemindead> 0__o
[20:42] <Venim> well you can't su without a password
[20:42] <Venim> but idk about login
[20:42] <Venim> that you usually can
[20:44] <squirrelpimp> no, you cannot login, as there is just no password
[20:44] <Sysi> you can set empy passwd to keyring
[20:44] <Sysi> then it won't never ask it
[20:44] <squirrelpimp> and you cannot su as well, so if you want to, you have to use sudo -i to get a login shell or set a password from there
[20:45] <Venim> yeah, multiple monitors
[20:51] <Venim> hmmm....
[20:51] <Venim> these settings work as root
[20:51] <Venim> but not as my use
[20:51] <Venim> r
[20:54] <likemindead> Just a matter of permissions, Venim?
[20:54] <Venim> perhaps?
[20:55] <Venim> does X have permission problems?
[21:40] <_Pete_> !vnc
[21:41] <Venim> btw, i fixed that issue by just deleting the user and recreating it
[21:51] <likemindead> Huzzah!
[22:00] <Ka1> hello
[22:06] <likemindead> Oh, hi there, Ka1! Oh.. ;-(
[22:07] <likemindead> All IRC chan topics should include "BE PATIENT! SOMEONE WILL REPLY EVENTUALLY!"
[22:11] <_Pete_> or RTFM
[22:16] <likemindead> Well... that's not too helpful. I don't mind simple questions. It's the lack of patience.
[22:17] <likemindead> And I prefer http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whatever anyhow. ;-)
[23:20] <ron_o> uhmmm, jigdo. Anyone know why it's needed over bittorrent?
[23:23] <ron_o> it sounds like jigdo is for servers to what bittorrent is for sharing files.
[23:23] <likemindead> Eh?
[23:23] <knome> jigdo = jigsaw download
[23:24] <knome> if i have understood correctly, it's used in sharing debian images
[23:26] <ron_o> knome, it takes a while to figure out, but should be used if bittorrent isn't available. It doesn't replace bittorrent, which I thought it was trying to do.
[23:26] <knome> no, it doesn't.
[23:26] <knome> (replace)
[23:27] <ron_o> I wish they'd make that more clear. If bittorrent isn't available, which it isn't for old and older distributions, so use jigdo instead..
[23:28] <ron_o> sounds like a bandwidth shaper for servers sharing amongst uncommon server arrangements --- or cloud bandwidth shaper. :)
[23:37] <knome> so you suggest the package description for the jigdo package should be changed?
[23:40] <Tonno> somebody here know a videos converter for 9.10? ( not winff pleases )
[23:41] <knome> Tonno, winff? from which format would you like to convert and to which
[23:41] <knome> Tonno, (and thanks for reminding me i bought tuna fish)
[23:42] <Tonno> knome, i want to change a videos for avi - to mp4
[23:42] <Tonno> tuna fish? knome
[23:42] <_Techie_> Tonno, looked @ mencoder?
[23:43] <knome> Tonno, tonno = tuna fish in italian :P
[23:43] <Tonno> _techie_ noup :S
[23:43] <knome> or sth.
[23:44] <_Techie_> Tonno, mencoder works great for converting media from one file to another, however its a command line app and i dont know of any linux front ends, only win32
[23:52] <Tonno> knome, thank u for the help :) _Techie_